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“Work on a fence along the Jordan border, September 6, 2015.” Credit: Ministry of Defense

Things are happening fast.

From the Israeli broadsheet newspaper Haaretz:

Israel Begins Construction of Fence Along Jordan Border

As refugees pour into Europe, Netanyahu cautions over ‘countries losing control of their borders’; new fence will cost an estimated $75 million.

Gili Cohen and The Associated Press Sep 06, 2015 …

Netanyahu: Israel is too small to absorb Syrian or African refugees

Work on the fence along the Israeli-Jordanian border began on Sunday – about a month earlier than planned – and will continue for about a year.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Sunday: “We see today what happens when countries lose control of their borders.” He seemed to be referring to the massive influx of refugees from the war-torn Middle East and African migrants heading to Europe.

The Defense Ministry moved up the start date of some of its contracts, apparently fearing potential infiltration by global jihad activists from Jordan. …

That’s a little one sided by concentrating upon terrorism: the government of Israel has also been very clear that it considers “economic migrants” to be “illegal infiltrators” and that its recent fences and deportation to Africa programs are aimed heavily at them.

The cost of the 30-kilometer fence that will be built at this stage is estimated at 300 million shekels ($76.4 million); building a fence all along the Israeli-Jordanian border would cost some 3 billion shekels.

After the construction of the fence was approved by the cabinet in June, the state took pains to announce that the fence “would not undermine the sovereignty of Jordan’s Hashemite kingdom.”

The speed with which the military formulated the plan and with which the government approved it indicates that Israel is eager to completely surround its land borders with physical barriers. The Jordanian border was Israel’s only land border not reinforced by a fence.

Earlier on Sunday, Netanyahu bemoaned the “human tragedy” of Syria’s civil war and said Israel has aided its victims. However, he said Israel is too small to take them. …

Candidate Trump might wish to ask ¡Jeb! if his objection to a fence for America also means he objects to Israel building fences to keep out “act of love” illegal immigrants?

 
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  1. iSteveFan says:

    The cost of the 30-kilometer fence that will be built at this stage is estimated at 300 million shekels ($76.4 million);

    That’s about $4 million per mile. That’s not a bad deal. That would be about $8 billion over 2000 miles. So for the cost of one of our new Ford class carriers, we could build a good fence along our Southern border.

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    @iSteveFan

    And, unlike the carrier, no one will be able to destroy the fence with a hypersonic missile.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  2. I don’t expect anyone will criticize Israel for not taking refugees. I do expect to hear that it’s the fault of the US for not going to war with Syria, ISIS, Iran, etc. ……

  3. “Germany, Light Unto the Nations”

    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.674799

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @Anonymous

    “Germany, Light Unto the Nations”

    Perhaps "Germany, Match Unto the Nations" might be more appropriate.

    I actually have to wonder who actually reads Haaretz in Israel. Certainly no one with any power.

    Replies: @Ben Tzot-Abrit, @SFG

  4. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Candidate Trump might wish to ask ¡Jeb! if his objection to a fence for America also means he objects to Israel building fences to keep out “act of love” immigrants?

    I don’t think candidate Trump need acknowledge jeb’s existence much longer. His support is disappearing.

    Every time I hear “act of love” and illegal immigrant in the same phrase, I think rape.

    A Google search any day of the week shows this is a daily problem. For example, today:

    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/detained-immigrant-admits-raping-tx-teen-he-thought-looked-16/

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Anonymous

    Meh, she got in the car with him.

    Replies: @anon, @Mr. Anon

  5. Israel seems to be one of the few countries with a good sense of self-preservation.

    “…apparently fearing potential infiltration by global jihad activists”

    Hmm… Come to think of it, jihad groups can infiltrate the U.S. through the southern border. What remains of the border anyway.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Dew


    Israel seems to be one of the few countries with a good sense of self-preservation.
     
    That's a very good observation, Dr. Dew.

    The rest of us would do well to look to Israel and its people for examples of how to "establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity."

    And whenever anyone criticizes us for doing one of those things, we can always point to Israel and say, "if it's good enough for them..."
  6. Netenyahu was calling for all European Jews to move to Isreal after the latest terrorist incidents in France.

    There is obviously enough room to accommodate more people.

    It’s really a question of which people.

  7. world war z was a premonition

  8. Why do I get the feeling that this years Syrian refugee crisis is just like last years southern border child immigrant crisis? Totally the same vibe. “There’s a third world hell-hole somewhere and if we don’t take in all these refugees, then we are bad. ”

    • Replies: @anon
    @Jimbo in OPKS

    They are the same - totally media orchestrated, like a Hollywood production.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Anonymous
    @Jimbo in OPKS

    Why do I get the feeling that this years Syrian refugee crisis is just like last years southern border child immigrant crisis?

    Dude, they aren't "refugees."

  9. The difference between the political class in Israel building fences and the ones in Europe taking in with glee half of Syria and soon Africa, is that Israel is noticeably too small. Even Labor Party leaders know that with say, 2-3 million Syrians inside Israel within weeks, they would no longer hold office nor would they have any hope of holding office in a defacto Muslim majority country. And being a defacto majority Muslim country Jews would have no place in Israel, which would be renamed Palestine or Southern Syria or some such.

    A more potent question is why shouldn’t Egypt take in Syrians? After all, Syria was joined with Egypt in the short-lived United Arab Republic. Egypt has plenty of land, and now has the world’s largest gas field with drilling and exporting planned for 2016.

    Over/Under when Europe becomes functionally majority Muslim? My guess is two years, tops. Germans of course for their generosity must give up: Holocaust Memorials (Muslims object), beer (Muslims object), sausage (Muslims object), Wine (Muslims object), schnapps (Muslims object), dogs (Muslims object), topless sunbathing (Muslims object), women not in burquas all the time (Muslim object), Christmas (Muslims object) CHRISTMAS TREES (Muslims object), Christianity (Muslims object), cathedrals and churches of all kinds (Muslims object), Jews anywhere (Muslims object), pretty much everything. Because Muslims object.

    And when Muslims object, they tend to make their objections heard … distinctly. Checheny, even. Merkel is certainly no Putin. When faced by the Nord-Ost theater debacle, Putin acted. Merkel staged her surrender.

    I hope Donald Trump raises that issue. Import the Third World, become the Third World. With Whites, including Jews and Catholics and such, and native Blacks at best third class citizens.

  10. And some people here will accuse the alt right of being conspiracy nuts when one asks questions why its just white nations that have to take in the 3rd world swarm. If ANY country did what Israel did, its very obvious how the media will play the narrative to attack that nation.

    Despite all the overwhelming evidence that shows otherwise, there are some that argue that an alt righter should to support Israel and its diaspora instead of being against it because …, actually I don’t know because. I have yet to get anyone (here or any other site that is open to discussion) to answer this very simple question.

    • Replies: @Ben Tzot-Abrit
    @neutral


    "If ANY country did what Israel did, its very obvious how the media will play the narrative to attack that nation."
     
    This is false. Outside the West, virtually every country behaves more like Israel on immigration than like Germany. The narrative is only applied to Western countries.

    I think your grievance is probably not with Israel, but with the American Jews who still get weepy when they hear Emma Lazarus's poem. Most such American Jews have not even mentally processed Israel's immigration measures. Too much cognitive dissonance. I can tell you from personal experience that as of 2008, Abraham Foxman was genuinely clueless, even in private among other Jews of his cohort, about his own double-standards toward US and Israel.

    This doesn't excuse anything on the part of such Jews. But if you're going to spend time lamenting the way American Jews behave, you might as well understand what's actually going on.

    , @Alastair Trumpington
    @neutral


    If ANY country did what Israel did, its very obvious how the media will play the narrative to attack that nation.
     
    Oh look, a NY Times editorial attacking Hungary for it's response to the immigrant crisis in Europe. We didn't have to wait very long for that.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/07/opinion/hungarys-xenophobic-response.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    , @Deduction
    @neutral


    And some people here will accuse the alt right of being conspiracy nuts when one asks questions why its just white nations that have to take in the 3rd world swarm. If ANY country did what Israel did, its very obvious how the media will play the narrative to attack that nation.
     
    I'm shocked that the Israeli liberals want to let them in. That is mad. There is no faction in Syria that supports Israel's right to exist. How dumb would you have to be to advocate taking in large numbers of your avowed enemies?

    It'd be pretty weird for Israel to take in Syrian Sunni Arabs, when Palestinian Sunni Arabs can't get in!
    , @Gabriel m
    @neutral

    No, to be crude, you should support Israel and oppose the Jewish diaspora (which mostly means the U.S.). To be less crude, you should support the majority of Israeli Jews and the minority of diaspora Jews who oppose one worldist globalism, and oppose the majority of diaspora Jews and the minority of Israeli Jews who support it. Or, to make it a bit more crude again, you should support people of any group who are on the right side, and oppose people on the wrong side and stop obsessing about Jews.

    Speaking as someone who lives in England, I find the idea that the media, and the left wing media in general, gives Israel some kind of a pass, to be nothing short of absurd. On top of this there is an almost perfect correlation between opposition to Israel and support for mass immigration.

    As for European Jews, their voting patterns are about the same as indigenous white Europeans. In England they voted Tory more than any religious group. I get that Steve Sailer is trolling American Jews, but actually this is just a bit unfair. Yeah you can find "Jewish Leaders" saying open the borders, but no more so than Anglicans and Catholics, actually less so.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  11. @Jimbo in OPKS
    Why do I get the feeling that this years Syrian refugee crisis is just like last years southern border child immigrant crisis? Totally the same vibe. "There's a third world hell-hole somewhere and if we don't take in all these refugees, then we are bad. "

    Replies: @anon, @Anonymous

    They are the same – totally media orchestrated, like a Hollywood production.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @anon

    I have to admit that some of the photo shots, at least, seem somewhat orchestrated. For example, it will seem that the overwhelming number of subjects are men, but there will be a woman out in front of the photo. In another picture, you might witness a man in a crowd actually holding a child over his head to give the child more prominence in the photo. Other questions: Where did they get the Andrea Merkel photos? How is it that these illegal migrants are so clean looking and well-fed?

    Replies: @anon

  12. @Jimbo in OPKS
    Why do I get the feeling that this years Syrian refugee crisis is just like last years southern border child immigrant crisis? Totally the same vibe. "There's a third world hell-hole somewhere and if we don't take in all these refugees, then we are bad. "

    Replies: @anon, @Anonymous

    Why do I get the feeling that this years Syrian refugee crisis is just like last years southern border child immigrant crisis?

    Dude, they aren’t “refugees.”

  13. I like immigration if for no other reason it scares you jerks shirtless .

    The thought of a black man making love to your daughter makes me smile.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    I like immigration if for no other reason it scares you jerks shirtless .

    In what way are we jerks?

    The thought of a black man making love to your daughter makes me smile.

    Why?

    , @anon
    @Anonymous


    I like immigration if for no other reason it scares you jerks shirtless.
     
    People who've been at this a long time already know the main driver for the pro-immigration crowd is anti-white racial hatred.

    The thought of a black man making love to your daughter makes me smile.
     
    Do you draw the line at rape or is it better?
    , @FactsAreImportant
    @Anonymous


    I like immigration if for no other reason it scares you jerks shirtless .

    The thought of a black man making love to your daughter makes me smile.
     
    Thanks for your honesty.
    , @Bill B.
    @Anonymous

    Yeah the Communist Party propaganda arms in the 1960s and 1970s used to also offer "information packs" to activists promoting immigration as a way of weakening the West.

    But it didn't help the Soviet Union much in the end.

    Life has a way of coming around to bite you on the arse...

    , @unpc downunder
    @Anonymous

    You're right it does scare me shirtless. But then again I have a fully-functioning left frontal lobe and you obviously don't.

  14. @Anonymous
    Candidate Trump might wish to ask ¡Jeb! if his objection to a fence for America also means he objects to Israel building fences to keep out “act of love” immigrants?

    I don't think candidate Trump need acknowledge jeb's existence much longer. His support is disappearing.

    Every time I hear "act of love" and illegal immigrant in the same phrase, I think rape.

    A Google search any day of the week shows this is a daily problem. For example, today:

    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/detained-immigrant-admits-raping-tx-teen-he-thought-looked-16/

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    Meh, she got in the car with him.

    • Replies: @anon
    @ScarletNumber


    Meh, she got in the car with him.
     
    It's so hard to not fly into a rage all the time.

    #

    carguy: hey girl, wanna get in my car

    littlewhitegirl: no

    carguy: are you racist then?

    littlewhitegirl: no

    carguy: why you don't want to get in my car then, you must be racist

    littlewhitegirl: no

    carguy: you're just racist

    repeat until she gets in the car

    #

    The entire media and school system pre-grooms white children for rape by telling them the worst thing is being racist - worse than talking to strangers.

    Happening every single day all over the western world.

    Millions.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Mr. Anon
    @ScarletNumber

    So we can assume that if had been your daughter, you would be cool with her getting raped?

  15. The Pope is asking every parish in Europe to take in an immigrant family. His Holiness himself has offered to take in one immigrant family. ONE.

    http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/09/06/3699093/pope-francis-welcome-refugees/

    There are about 2,000 Catholic parishes in Europe. So the Pope’s grand gesture would accommodate only a tiny fraction of the immigrants.

    I say we should look to His Holiness for REAL leadership on this issue. The US should donate temporary shelters to be erected in St. Peter’s Square. 500 to 1,000 shelters sounds about right. Just deliver them to St. Peter’s. While some narrow-minded people might object to the lack of permits and such, His Holiness would certainly not turn away such charity.

    His Holiness can then show us how to humanely care for a large influx of immigrants.

    TV cameras could have 24-hour live feeds showing us the gratefulness of the immigrants non-stop. (This would be very convenient for TV crews. They would be able to get non-stop images of the vibrant new Europeans without traipsing around the continent. Just set up and let the cameras roll.)

    • Replies: @Jim Sweeney
    @FactsAreImportant

    And while he's doing that, Pope Dope can sell all the Vatican art and similar treasures with the UN refugee commission the benficiary of the sales. Wait for it ... sure to happen

    Replies: @Name Withheld

  16. By the way to anyone that hasn’t, do watch this video of “poor refugees” in Hungary throwing away food and water. NYT better put this story on the front page.

    Notice how virtually all of migrants refusing or throwing away the provisions and acting like insufferable douchebags are men. They insult and harass the workers. They even discourage and prevent the children from getting food. Quite a lot of these migrants are men aren’t they… why isn’t the MSM highlighting that?

    At least some of the parents tried to ignore those fools and get food for the children. Even some of the kids got the courage to get the food themselves. They have my sympathies and respect for that.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    @Dew

    Kind of low expectations, isn't it? Respect and sympathy for taking free food and not spitting in your helpers' faces?

    Replies: @Dew

    , @Moon
    @Dew

    Why did they reject the stuff?

    Because they were treated like crap

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @FactsAreImportant
    @Dew

    Why are they rejecting the food and water? Not halal?

    There have been multiple reports of food-rejection. What's up?

    Replies: @Bill B.

  17. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    @Jimbo in OPKS

    They are the same - totally media orchestrated, like a Hollywood production.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I have to admit that some of the photo shots, at least, seem somewhat orchestrated. For example, it will seem that the overwhelming number of subjects are men, but there will be a woman out in front of the photo. In another picture, you might witness a man in a crowd actually holding a child over his head to give the child more prominence in the photo. Other questions: Where did they get the Andrea Merkel photos? How is it that these illegal migrants are so clean looking and well-fed?

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonymous

    Plus ignoring all the polls being against it and focusing on the few hundred activists helping them - pointing the cameras away from the mobs of young African men and towards families etc.

    It's scripted.

  18. Now that Iranian sanctions are being lifted, this means a wealthier Iran is going to spend more on weaponry because its ultimate goal is to convert Sunni Arab oil nations to Shiite. To become the strong horse that others (the Arab Muslim rabble) will bet on. Thus Israel has even less margin for error. This is one reason for this last Israeli fence being built.
    Is Putin’s Russia pro-Shiite or pro-Sunni in the Middle East? If you don’t know you can go home right now. btw 40% of Middle East Muslims are Shiite when you count Iran as in the Middle East

    Iran went from Sunni to Shiite very quickly in the 1700s. Mostly due to a change in the ruling dynasty. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_conversion_of_Iran_to_Shia_Islam

    • Replies: @Deduction
    @Clyde


    Now that Iranian sanctions are being lifted, this means a wealthier Iran is going to spend more on weaponry because its ultimate goal is to convert Sunni Arab oil nations to Shiite.
     
    Yes, yes those evil Iranians...sure...

    That is their goal in the same way that one of my goals is to sleep with Angelina Jolie. It's a goal but because it ain't ever going to happen I do not make any effort at all to reach it. It's entirely futile.

    You have no understanding of Iran. They have an underdog religion, an underdog position in the region and are trying to make the best of it they can. That is all.

    Replies: @Sean, @Clyde

  19. Anyone have a guess at why Israel and Jordan support the Islamic State (and before that, supported Jabhat al-Nusra?):
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Syrian_Civil_War_detailed_map

    • Replies: @Deduction
    @E. Harding

    Neither Israel nor Jordan support IS....there is no evidence for them doing so.

    It's amazing with Muslim Middle Easterners. Their favourite tactic to undermine their enemy is to claim that they are a secret Jew. Thus all major figures in the Middle East have been accused of being secret Jews...you will not find one who has not.

    And then they say that Israel is backing their enemy....

    Replies: @E. Harding

    , @Kyra Nelson
    @E. Harding

    Not sure Wikipedia is the best source for Middle East info, because they only let in certain viewpoints.

    Replies: @E. Harding

    , @Kyra Nelson
    @E. Harding

    Not sure Wikipedia is the best source for Middle East info, because they only let in certain viewpoints.

  20. I think Steve’s moral hazard argument is the one that needs to be pushed. Admitting refugees of any description in any numbers creates a moral hazard, a slippery slope leading to an unnecessary humanitarian catastrophe. I made a comment to that effect over at the Financial Times and got a lot of positive responses.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Luke Lea

    I think Steve’s moral hazard argument is the one that needs to be pushed. Admitting refugees of any description in any numbers creates a moral hazard, a slippery slope leading to an unnecessary humanitarian catastrophe.

    A hazard, certainly. A very big one, in fact. But how does admitting refugees create a moral hazard?

    Replies: @Anonymous

  21. @Anonymous
    "Germany, Light Unto the Nations"

    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.674799

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    “Germany, Light Unto the Nations”

    Perhaps “Germany, Match Unto the Nations” might be more appropriate.

    I actually have to wonder who actually reads Haaretz in Israel. Certainly no one with any power.

    • Replies: @Ben Tzot-Abrit
    @SPMoore8


    I actually have to wonder who actually reads Haaretz in Israel. Certainly no one with any power.
     
    Haaretz readers have a higher average income and education-level than the readers of any of Israel's other major newspapers. The paper's influence in Israeli society is actually more significant than its circulation would suggest. To the continuing frustration of Sheldon Adelson and his pet newspaper Israel Hayom.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    , @SFG
    @SPMoore8

    Haaretz has sort of a Marin County-equivalent demographic, from what I understand--rich Ashkenazi liberals.

  22. Netanyahu said Israel is too small to take them. That is interesting since he is always trying to get as many Jews as possible to immigrate to Israel. I wonder if the ADL is outraged at Israel. 😉

  23. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Arutz Sheva 09/06/2015
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/200344#.VezbCcT3arV

    Elderly Jewish Couple Brutally Attacked in Holland

    Samuel (87) and Diana (86) Blug, two elderly Holocaust survivors, fell victim to a vicious and violent anti-Semitic attack at their home in Holland a month ago.

    According to a Yedioth Ahronoth report on Sunday, the couple were only able to come forward now and recount what happened to them.

    The Blugs say two men, who looked to be of Moroccan descent, knocked on the door to their apartment, claiming to be the police and demanding entrance.

    As soon as Samuel opened the door, the nightmare began. Two men dressed in black barged into the apartment and started severely beating the couple.

    The assailants threw the couple on the floor, kicked them repeatedly and shouted: “Dirty Jews – from now on your property is ours.”

    After tying up the badly injured couple, the thieves ripped Diana’s jewelry off her body. At gunpoint, they forced the couple to tell them where the rest of the valuables in the apartment were located.

    Samuel was blinded in the assault and suffered a broken femur. Both he and Diana, who were living independently before the attack, are now confined to wheelchairs at a rehabilitation center in Amsterdam.

    [Read rest of article: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/200344#.VezbdsT3arW%5D

    • Replies: @Art
    @Anonymous

    Israel murdered 2,300 Palestinians last year - payback is a bitch.

    Maybe Zionist Israel should reverse its fascist course.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  24. @iSteveFan

    The cost of the 30-kilometer fence that will be built at this stage is estimated at 300 million shekels ($76.4 million);
     
    That's about $4 million per mile. That's not a bad deal. That would be about $8 billion over 2000 miles. So for the cost of one of our new Ford class carriers, we could build a good fence along our Southern border.

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...

    And, unlike the carrier, no one will be able to destroy the fence with a hypersonic missile.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    "And, unlike the carrier, no one will be able to destroy the fence with a hypersonic missile."

    And also unlike the carrier, it would actually protect the nation and its people.

  25. @Anonymous
    I like immigration if for no other reason it scares you jerks shirtless .

    The thought of a black man making love to your daughter makes me smile.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anon, @FactsAreImportant, @Bill B., @unpc downunder

    I like immigration if for no other reason it scares you jerks shirtless .

    In what way are we jerks?

    The thought of a black man making love to your daughter makes me smile.

    Why?

  26. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Luke Lea
    I think Steve's moral hazard argument is the one that needs to be pushed. Admitting refugees of any description in any numbers creates a moral hazard, a slippery slope leading to an unnecessary humanitarian catastrophe. I made a comment to that effect over at the Financial Times and got a lot of positive responses.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I think Steve’s moral hazard argument is the one that needs to be pushed. Admitting refugees of any description in any numbers creates a moral hazard, a slippery slope leading to an unnecessary humanitarian catastrophe.

    A hazard, certainly. A very big one, in fact. But how does admitting refugees create a moral hazard?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Because the more you let in, the more wants to get it in. And so instead of people trying to sort out their own countries, you get all these migrants dead in the trucks and in the sea.

    The world as a whole is a hellish place. World's total GDP is less than $9*10^13 in PPP terms. That makes it less than $13,000 per capita. Or, about the same of what Colombia and South Africa have today. And even if everyone got an equal part, it would not be sustainable - not even for a couple of years.

  27. @Anonymous

    Arutz Sheva 09/06/2015
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/200344#.VezbCcT3arV

    Elderly Jewish Couple Brutally Attacked in Holland

    Samuel (87) and Diana (86) Blug, two elderly Holocaust survivors, fell victim to a vicious and violent anti-Semitic attack at their home in Holland a month ago.

    According to a Yedioth Ahronoth report on Sunday, the couple were only able to come forward now and recount what happened to them.

    The Blugs say two men, who looked to be of Moroccan descent, knocked on the door to their apartment, claiming to be the police and demanding entrance.

    As soon as Samuel opened the door, the nightmare began. Two men dressed in black barged into the apartment and started severely beating the couple.

    The assailants threw the couple on the floor, kicked them repeatedly and shouted: "Dirty Jews - from now on your property is ours."

    After tying up the badly injured couple, the thieves ripped Diana's jewelry off her body. At gunpoint, they forced the couple to tell them where the rest of the valuables in the apartment were located.

    Samuel was blinded in the assault and suffered a broken femur. Both he and Diana, who were living independently before the attack, are now confined to wheelchairs at a rehabilitation center in Amsterdam.

    [Read rest of article: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/200344#.VezbdsT3arW]
     

    Replies: @Art

    Israel murdered 2,300 Palestinians last year – payback is a bitch.

    Maybe Zionist Israel should reverse its fascist course.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Art


    @Anonymous
    Israel murdered 2,300 Palestinians last year – payback is a bitch.

    Maybe Zionist Israel should reverse its fascist course.

     

    Dude, octogenarian Holocaust survivors in Holland had nothing to do with Palestinian getting killed in Israel or PA. Get a grip.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  28. @Dew
    By the way to anyone that hasn't, do watch this video of "poor refugees" in Hungary throwing away food and water. NYT better put this story on the front page.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRhI0Xqv5Rc

    Notice how virtually all of migrants refusing or throwing away the provisions and acting like insufferable douchebags are men. They insult and harass the workers. They even discourage and prevent the children from getting food. Quite a lot of these migrants are men aren't they... why isn't the MSM highlighting that?

    At least some of the parents tried to ignore those fools and get food for the children. Even some of the kids got the courage to get the food themselves. They have my sympathies and respect for that.

    Replies: @Romanian, @Moon, @FactsAreImportant

    Kind of low expectations, isn’t it? Respect and sympathy for taking free food and not spitting in your helpers’ faces?

    • Replies: @Dew
    @Romanian

    True, my expectations are low but based on the circumstances, it is not too unreasonable. Many people take the free food (and then some) but do much worse than spitting in their helpers faces. There are too many examples.

    Perhaps it impacts me more emotionally. I'm seeing adults that should know better but apparently they never fail to disappoint me. They have a completely unwarranted sense of pride and are harming children within their own groups because of it. They expect free stuff but turn down the goods that apparently isn't good enough for them. They have the nerve to act as victims when really far too many are after economic self-interest and then biting the hand that feeds them anyways. Those imbeciles should have taken the food or at least politely refused, letting the workers give it those in need.

  29. I have a morality question for the Sailerites.

    If I go to a party and am allowed to bring a guest, and the guest does something wrong (breaks something, steals something, etc). Then most people would hold me somewhat morally accountable (not legally) for what happened. How come that same moral code does not apply to people who want to bring in refugees?

    Is this because of scale and the impersonal nature of our society?
    Or because they feel so superior, this normal morality does not apply to them?

    We need to start asking these Christian groups that bring in these refugees questions like this.

    • Replies: @Bill B.
    @Name Withheld

    “He was impregnably armored by his good intentions and his ignorance.”
    ― Graham Greene, The Quiet American

    Altruism is like love - you never have to say sorry. I am a Christian but I despair at some of the church groups.

    Interestingly though Lord Carey a retired Bishop of Canterbury has said there are too many Muslims in Europe, argues for choosing Christians if any are allowed in and wants to solve the problem "at source" by attacking ISIS.

    http://biasedbbc.org/blog/2015/09/06/too-much-muslim-immigration-into-europe/

  30. @SPMoore8
    @Anonymous

    “Germany, Light Unto the Nations”

    Perhaps "Germany, Match Unto the Nations" might be more appropriate.

    I actually have to wonder who actually reads Haaretz in Israel. Certainly no one with any power.

    Replies: @Ben Tzot-Abrit, @SFG

    I actually have to wonder who actually reads Haaretz in Israel. Certainly no one with any power.

    Haaretz readers have a higher average income and education-level than the readers of any of Israel’s other major newspapers. The paper’s influence in Israeli society is actually more significant than its circulation would suggest. To the continuing frustration of Sheldon Adelson and his pet newspaper Israel Hayom.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @Ben Tzot-Abrit

    Thank you. The reason I commented on Haaretz is that I have been reading their editorials and Op-Eds in various venues for close to 30 years and their political slant never seems to have any relationship at all with actual Israeli policy.

    I mean it would be like someone quoting Slate or Salon as representative of "what America thinks." Uh, no.

  31. @neutral
    And some people here will accuse the alt right of being conspiracy nuts when one asks questions why its just white nations that have to take in the 3rd world swarm. If ANY country did what Israel did, its very obvious how the media will play the narrative to attack that nation.

    Despite all the overwhelming evidence that shows otherwise, there are some that argue that an alt righter should to support Israel and its diaspora instead of being against it because ..., actually I don't know because. I have yet to get anyone (here or any other site that is open to discussion) to answer this very simple question.

    Replies: @Ben Tzot-Abrit, @Alastair Trumpington, @Deduction, @Gabriel m

    “If ANY country did what Israel did, its very obvious how the media will play the narrative to attack that nation.”

    This is false. Outside the West, virtually every country behaves more like Israel on immigration than like Germany. The narrative is only applied to Western countries.

    I think your grievance is probably not with Israel, but with the American Jews who still get weepy when they hear Emma Lazarus’s poem. Most such American Jews have not even mentally processed Israel’s immigration measures. Too much cognitive dissonance. I can tell you from personal experience that as of 2008, Abraham Foxman was genuinely clueless, even in private among other Jews of his cohort, about his own double-standards toward US and Israel.

    This doesn’t excuse anything on the part of such Jews. But if you’re going to spend time lamenting the way American Jews behave, you might as well understand what’s actually going on.

  32. @SPMoore8
    @Anonymous

    “Germany, Light Unto the Nations”

    Perhaps "Germany, Match Unto the Nations" might be more appropriate.

    I actually have to wonder who actually reads Haaretz in Israel. Certainly no one with any power.

    Replies: @Ben Tzot-Abrit, @SFG

    Haaretz has sort of a Marin County-equivalent demographic, from what I understand–rich Ashkenazi liberals.

    • Agree: SPMoore8
  33. Sorry, but we are in a large part responsible for all these refugees.

    The good everyday people of Iraq, Libya, and now Syria are suffering grievously by our hand.

    When are we going to be honest about our Israeli Zionist led foreign policy. Millions of everyday families are suffering because of Israeli ambitions – end of story.

  34. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    I like immigration if for no other reason it scares you jerks shirtless .

    The thought of a black man making love to your daughter makes me smile.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anon, @FactsAreImportant, @Bill B., @unpc downunder

    I like immigration if for no other reason it scares you jerks shirtless.

    People who’ve been at this a long time already know the main driver for the pro-immigration crowd is anti-white racial hatred.

    The thought of a black man making love to your daughter makes me smile.

    Do you draw the line at rape or is it better?

  35. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @Luke Lea

    I think Steve’s moral hazard argument is the one that needs to be pushed. Admitting refugees of any description in any numbers creates a moral hazard, a slippery slope leading to an unnecessary humanitarian catastrophe.

    A hazard, certainly. A very big one, in fact. But how does admitting refugees create a moral hazard?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Because the more you let in, the more wants to get it in. And so instead of people trying to sort out their own countries, you get all these migrants dead in the trucks and in the sea.

    The world as a whole is a hellish place. World’s total GDP is less than $9*10^13 in PPP terms. That makes it less than $13,000 per capita. Or, about the same of what Colombia and South Africa have today. And even if everyone got an equal part, it would not be sustainable – not even for a couple of years.

  36. @Dew
    By the way to anyone that hasn't, do watch this video of "poor refugees" in Hungary throwing away food and water. NYT better put this story on the front page.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRhI0Xqv5Rc

    Notice how virtually all of migrants refusing or throwing away the provisions and acting like insufferable douchebags are men. They insult and harass the workers. They even discourage and prevent the children from getting food. Quite a lot of these migrants are men aren't they... why isn't the MSM highlighting that?

    At least some of the parents tried to ignore those fools and get food for the children. Even some of the kids got the courage to get the food themselves. They have my sympathies and respect for that.

    Replies: @Romanian, @Moon, @FactsAreImportant

    Why did they reject the stuff?

    Because they were treated like crap

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Moon

    ""Why did they reject the stuff?""

    "Because they were treated like crap"

    They were treated like refugees. If they don't want to be treated like refugees, they shouldn't be refugees. They shouldn't be in Hungary at all.

  37. @Anonymous
    I like immigration if for no other reason it scares you jerks shirtless .

    The thought of a black man making love to your daughter makes me smile.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anon, @FactsAreImportant, @Bill B., @unpc downunder

    I like immigration if for no other reason it scares you jerks shirtless .

    The thought of a black man making love to your daughter makes me smile.

    Thanks for your honesty.

  38. @Ben Tzot-Abrit
    @SPMoore8


    I actually have to wonder who actually reads Haaretz in Israel. Certainly no one with any power.
     
    Haaretz readers have a higher average income and education-level than the readers of any of Israel's other major newspapers. The paper's influence in Israeli society is actually more significant than its circulation would suggest. To the continuing frustration of Sheldon Adelson and his pet newspaper Israel Hayom.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    Thank you. The reason I commented on Haaretz is that I have been reading their editorials and Op-Eds in various venues for close to 30 years and their political slant never seems to have any relationship at all with actual Israeli policy.

    I mean it would be like someone quoting Slate or Salon as representative of “what America thinks.” Uh, no.

  39. @Anonymous
    I like immigration if for no other reason it scares you jerks shirtless .

    The thought of a black man making love to your daughter makes me smile.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anon, @FactsAreImportant, @Bill B., @unpc downunder

    Yeah the Communist Party propaganda arms in the 1960s and 1970s used to also offer “information packs” to activists promoting immigration as a way of weakening the West.

    But it didn’t help the Soviet Union much in the end.

    Life has a way of coming around to bite you on the arse…

  40. @Dew
    By the way to anyone that hasn't, do watch this video of "poor refugees" in Hungary throwing away food and water. NYT better put this story on the front page.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRhI0Xqv5Rc

    Notice how virtually all of migrants refusing or throwing away the provisions and acting like insufferable douchebags are men. They insult and harass the workers. They even discourage and prevent the children from getting food. Quite a lot of these migrants are men aren't they... why isn't the MSM highlighting that?

    At least some of the parents tried to ignore those fools and get food for the children. Even some of the kids got the courage to get the food themselves. They have my sympathies and respect for that.

    Replies: @Romanian, @Moon, @FactsAreImportant

    Why are they rejecting the food and water? Not halal?

    There have been multiple reports of food-rejection. What’s up?

    • Replies: @Bill B.
    @FactsAreImportant

    Looking at a couple of the video clips my impression is "f*ck a bottle of water. I want an apartment in Germany".

    Replies: @unpc downunder

  41. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @ScarletNumber
    @Anonymous

    Meh, she got in the car with him.

    Replies: @anon, @Mr. Anon

    Meh, she got in the car with him.

    It’s so hard to not fly into a rage all the time.

    #

    carguy: hey girl, wanna get in my car

    littlewhitegirl: no

    carguy: are you racist then?

    littlewhitegirl: no

    carguy: why you don’t want to get in my car then, you must be racist

    littlewhitegirl: no

    carguy: you’re just racist

    repeat until she gets in the car

    #

    The entire media and school system pre-grooms white children for rape by telling them the worst thing is being racist – worse than talking to strangers.

    Happening every single day all over the western world.

    Millions.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @anon


    carguy: why you don’t want to get in my car then, you must be racist

    littlewhitegirl: no

    carguy: you’re just racist

    repeat until she gets in the car
     
    Beware the Ides of March.

    Replies: @anon

  42. @Anonymous
    @anon

    I have to admit that some of the photo shots, at least, seem somewhat orchestrated. For example, it will seem that the overwhelming number of subjects are men, but there will be a woman out in front of the photo. In another picture, you might witness a man in a crowd actually holding a child over his head to give the child more prominence in the photo. Other questions: Where did they get the Andrea Merkel photos? How is it that these illegal migrants are so clean looking and well-fed?

    Replies: @anon

    Plus ignoring all the polls being against it and focusing on the few hundred activists helping them – pointing the cameras away from the mobs of young African men and towards families etc.

    It’s scripted.

  43. @Name Withheld
    I have a morality question for the Sailerites.

    If I go to a party and am allowed to bring a guest, and the guest does something wrong (breaks something, steals something, etc). Then most people would hold me somewhat morally accountable (not legally) for what happened. How come that same moral code does not apply to people who want to bring in refugees?

    Is this because of scale and the impersonal nature of our society?
    Or because they feel so superior, this normal morality does not apply to them?

    We need to start asking these Christian groups that bring in these refugees questions like this.

    Replies: @Bill B.

    “He was impregnably armored by his good intentions and his ignorance.”
    ― Graham Greene, The Quiet American

    Altruism is like love – you never have to say sorry. I am a Christian but I despair at some of the church groups.

    Interestingly though Lord Carey a retired Bishop of Canterbury has said there are too many Muslims in Europe, argues for choosing Christians if any are allowed in and wants to solve the problem “at source” by attacking ISIS.

    http://biasedbbc.org/blog/2015/09/06/too-much-muslim-immigration-into-europe/

  44. @FactsAreImportant
    The Pope is asking every parish in Europe to take in an immigrant family. His Holiness himself has offered to take in one immigrant family. ONE.

    http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/09/06/3699093/pope-francis-welcome-refugees/

    There are about 2,000 Catholic parishes in Europe. So the Pope's grand gesture would accommodate only a tiny fraction of the immigrants.

    I say we should look to His Holiness for REAL leadership on this issue. The US should donate temporary shelters to be erected in St. Peter's Square. 500 to 1,000 shelters sounds about right. Just deliver them to St. Peter's. While some narrow-minded people might object to the lack of permits and such, His Holiness would certainly not turn away such charity.

    His Holiness can then show us how to humanely care for a large influx of immigrants.

    TV cameras could have 24-hour live feeds showing us the gratefulness of the immigrants non-stop. (This would be very convenient for TV crews. They would be able to get non-stop images of the vibrant new Europeans without traipsing around the continent. Just set up and let the cameras roll.)

    Replies: @Jim Sweeney

    And while he’s doing that, Pope Dope can sell all the Vatican art and similar treasures with the UN refugee commission the benficiary of the sales. Wait for it … sure to happen

    • Replies: @Name Withheld
    @Jim Sweeney

    Isn't that one of the fantasies liberals have, to sell all of The Catholic Church's wealth, art, and buildings and "help the poor".

    Replies: @FactsAreImportant, @anonymous coward

  45. Steve: the left-wing Israeli parties have all been demanding Netanyahu admit more refugees. The NYT had a big thing about it today:

    Isaac Herzog, the leader of the center-left Labor Party and head of the opposition, stirred a heated national debate over the issue after he said on Saturday that “Jews cannot remain indifferent when hundreds of thousands of refugees are seeking safe harbor.” He added, “Our people experienced firsthand the silence of the world,” alluding to the Holocaust, “and cannot be indifferent in the face of the rampant murders and massacres taking place in Syria.”

    Other members of the opposition had joined Mr. Herzog’s call to take in refugees, including Zehava Galon, the leader of the left-wing Meretz party, and Elazar Stern, a legislator from the centrist Yesh Atid party. Mr. Stern invoked a gesture made by Menachem Begin, the former Likud Party leader, who, as prime minister in the late 1970s, welcomed several hundred Vietnamese boat people to Israel and granted them Israeli citizenship.

    You need to stop treating the Netanyahu administration as synonymous with Israel and Israel as synonymous with Jews.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Carl8745

    Yeah, this Netanyahu guy is just a flash in the pan. He's the Donald Trump of Israel. He'll never last more than a week or two near the top.

    Replies: @Terrance

    , @Ben Tzot-Abrit
    @Carl8745


    You need to stop treating the Netanyahu administration as synonymous with Israel and Israel as synonymous with Jews.
     
    Steve doesn't characterize Israel as synonymous with Jews, that's absurd. He has a better handle on the competing/overlapping interests between Israel and the diaspora than do the vast majority of American Jews.

    The Netanyahu administration reflects the current and future political direction of Israel far better than do the Labor-derived parties cited by the Times. The existence of the Meretz party is no longer even worth noting alongside Netanyahu's idlest mid-day thought. Shas and other very-far-right groups are more relevant.

    Replies: @Deduction

    , @Carl8745
    @Carl8745

    The impression I get is that Netanyahu is a "coalition of the fringes" politician in the context of Israeli politics, just like Obama is here. He is certainly loathed by the liberal establishment that runs everything over there.

  46. Israel has a fence and Saudi Arabia has a fence. The Bush family’s two favorite countries have fences. The United States, which is quite a bit further down the list, does not have one, nor do they want it to.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Wilkey

    Mexico isn't one of the Bush family's two favorite countries?

    , @Kyra
    @Wilkey

    Think about how many jobs a fence on the U.S. southern border would create. Jobs for Americans.

  47. @Romanian
    @Dew

    Kind of low expectations, isn't it? Respect and sympathy for taking free food and not spitting in your helpers' faces?

    Replies: @Dew

    True, my expectations are low but based on the circumstances, it is not too unreasonable. Many people take the free food (and then some) but do much worse than spitting in their helpers faces. There are too many examples.

    Perhaps it impacts me more emotionally. I’m seeing adults that should know better but apparently they never fail to disappoint me. They have a completely unwarranted sense of pride and are harming children within their own groups because of it. They expect free stuff but turn down the goods that apparently isn’t good enough for them. They have the nerve to act as victims when really far too many are after economic self-interest and then biting the hand that feeds them anyways. Those imbeciles should have taken the food or at least politely refused, letting the workers give it those in need.

  48. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Netanyahu says will not allow Israel to be ‘submerged’ by refugees”, AFP, 6-Sep-2015:

    “Netanyahu also announced the start of construction of a fence along Israel’s border with Jordan, according to his office.

    “We will not allow Israel to be submerged by a wave of illegal migrants and terrorist activists,” Netanyahu said.

    “Israel is not indifferent to the human tragedy of Syrian and African refugees… but Israel is a small country — very small — without demographic or geographic depth. That is why we must control our borders.” …”

    I’m willing to believe that a lot of pro-immigration people feel they are just doing the right thing. But they are also innumerate. The US has limited demographic depth compared to the entire planet.

    The world has around 7.3 or 7.4 billion people. If they all end up in the US or Europe, there are going to be a lot of unhappy people. It’s just not healthy.

    I kind of like the term “demographic depth”.

  49. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “We need to start asking these Christian groups that bring in these refugees questions like this.”

    They need to be outed as greedy profiteers. If it’s not greed for money or minor power, it’s emotional greed to feel like the Great White Father or Nice White Nun.

    Not that I have anything against someone actually going to the 3rd world and conducting themselves in saintly fashion as Great White Father or Nice White Nun. Just not sitting here in the US playing that game with the taxpayers having to do all the work and suffer the consequences.

  50. @Carl8745
    Steve: the left-wing Israeli parties have all been demanding Netanyahu admit more refugees. The NYT had a big thing about it today:

    Isaac Herzog, the leader of the center-left Labor Party and head of the opposition, stirred a heated national debate over the issue after he said on Saturday that “Jews cannot remain indifferent when hundreds of thousands of refugees are seeking safe harbor.” He added, “Our people experienced firsthand the silence of the world,” alluding to the Holocaust, “and cannot be indifferent in the face of the rampant murders and massacres taking place in Syria.”

    ...

    Other members of the opposition had joined Mr. Herzog’s call to take in refugees, including Zehava Galon, the leader of the left-wing Meretz party, and Elazar Stern, a legislator from the centrist Yesh Atid party. Mr. Stern invoked a gesture made by Menachem Begin, the former Likud Party leader, who, as prime minister in the late 1970s, welcomed several hundred Vietnamese boat people to Israel and granted them Israeli citizenship.

     

    You need to stop treating the Netanyahu administration as synonymous with Israel and Israel as synonymous with Jews.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Ben Tzot-Abrit, @Carl8745

    Yeah, this Netanyahu guy is just a flash in the pan. He’s the Donald Trump of Israel. He’ll never last more than a week or two near the top.

    • Replies: @Terrance
    @Steve Sailer

    What percentage of Israelis voted against him? That's the kind of thing you're not supposed to ask.

  51. @Art
    @Anonymous

    Israel murdered 2,300 Palestinians last year - payback is a bitch.

    Maybe Zionist Israel should reverse its fascist course.

    Replies: @Anonymous


    Israel murdered 2,300 Palestinians last year – payback is a bitch.

    Maybe Zionist Israel should reverse its fascist course.

    Dude, octogenarian Holocaust survivors in Holland had nothing to do with Palestinian getting killed in Israel or PA. Get a grip.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Dude, octogenarian Holocaust survivors in Holland had nothing to do with Palestinian getting killed in Israel or PA. Get a grip.

    Weren't those Palestinians killed by Jews?

  52. @neutral
    And some people here will accuse the alt right of being conspiracy nuts when one asks questions why its just white nations that have to take in the 3rd world swarm. If ANY country did what Israel did, its very obvious how the media will play the narrative to attack that nation.

    Despite all the overwhelming evidence that shows otherwise, there are some that argue that an alt righter should to support Israel and its diaspora instead of being against it because ..., actually I don't know because. I have yet to get anyone (here or any other site that is open to discussion) to answer this very simple question.

    Replies: @Ben Tzot-Abrit, @Alastair Trumpington, @Deduction, @Gabriel m

    If ANY country did what Israel did, its very obvious how the media will play the narrative to attack that nation.

    Oh look, a NY Times editorial attacking Hungary for it’s response to the immigrant crisis in Europe. We didn’t have to wait very long for that.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/07/opinion/hungarys-xenophobic-response.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @Alastair Trumpington

    Nicholas Kristof -- who reveals that his father was a Rumanian refugee -- also weighs in on the crisis and the moral imperatives, etc. involved. And, not surprisingly, he proposed military intervention.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/06/opinion/sunday/nicholas-kristof-refugees-who-could-be-us.html?action=click&contentCollection=Opinion&module=MostPopularFB&version=Full&region=Marginalia&src=me&pgtype=article

    Replies: @Bill B., @Romanian

  53. @Jim Sweeney
    @FactsAreImportant

    And while he's doing that, Pope Dope can sell all the Vatican art and similar treasures with the UN refugee commission the benficiary of the sales. Wait for it ... sure to happen

    Replies: @Name Withheld

    Isn’t that one of the fantasies liberals have, to sell all of The Catholic Church’s wealth, art, and buildings and “help the poor”.

    • Replies: @FactsAreImportant
    @Name Withheld


    Isn’t that one of the fantasies liberals have, to sell all of The Catholic Church’s wealth, art, and buildings and “help the poor”.
     
    There was a movie about this a long time ago. The Shoes of the Fisherman. Starred Anthony Quinn.
    , @anonymous coward
    @Name Withheld


    Isn’t that one of the fantasies liberals have, to sell all of The Catholic Church’s wealth, art, and buildings and “help the poor”.
     
    Lol. Indeed, a fantasy with a very old tradition:

    And being in Bethany in the house of Simon the leper, as he sat at meat, there came a woman having an alabaster box of ointment of spikenard very precious; and she brake the box, and poured it on his head. And there were some that had indignation within themselves, and said, Why was this waste of the ointment made? For it might have been sold for more than three hundred pence, and have been given to the poor. And they murmured against her. And Jesus said, Let her alone; why trouble ye her? she hath wrought a good work on me. For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always. She hath done what she could: she is come aforehand to anoint my body to the burying. Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her. And Judas Iscariot, one of the twelve, went unto the chief priests, to betray him unto them.
     
  54. @Carl8745
    Steve: the left-wing Israeli parties have all been demanding Netanyahu admit more refugees. The NYT had a big thing about it today:

    Isaac Herzog, the leader of the center-left Labor Party and head of the opposition, stirred a heated national debate over the issue after he said on Saturday that “Jews cannot remain indifferent when hundreds of thousands of refugees are seeking safe harbor.” He added, “Our people experienced firsthand the silence of the world,” alluding to the Holocaust, “and cannot be indifferent in the face of the rampant murders and massacres taking place in Syria.”

    ...

    Other members of the opposition had joined Mr. Herzog’s call to take in refugees, including Zehava Galon, the leader of the left-wing Meretz party, and Elazar Stern, a legislator from the centrist Yesh Atid party. Mr. Stern invoked a gesture made by Menachem Begin, the former Likud Party leader, who, as prime minister in the late 1970s, welcomed several hundred Vietnamese boat people to Israel and granted them Israeli citizenship.

     

    You need to stop treating the Netanyahu administration as synonymous with Israel and Israel as synonymous with Jews.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Ben Tzot-Abrit, @Carl8745

    You need to stop treating the Netanyahu administration as synonymous with Israel and Israel as synonymous with Jews.

    Steve doesn’t characterize Israel as synonymous with Jews, that’s absurd. He has a better handle on the competing/overlapping interests between Israel and the diaspora than do the vast majority of American Jews.

    The Netanyahu administration reflects the current and future political direction of Israel far better than do the Labor-derived parties cited by the Times. The existence of the Meretz party is no longer even worth noting alongside Netanyahu’s idlest mid-day thought. Shas and other very-far-right groups are more relevant.

    • Replies: @Deduction
    @Ben Tzot-Abrit

    I've been to Israel and it was my observation that the more Arabic, but still Jewish the Israeli, the more hard right they would be.

    I can't tell if it's genetic, cultural, a factor of one's grandparents being kicked out from Arab countries or simply that if you're Arab it's much easier to bat aside accusations of racism against Arabs.

    Replies: @Ben Tzot-Abrit

  55. @Dew
    Israel seems to be one of the few countries with a good sense of self-preservation.

    "...apparently fearing potential infiltration by global jihad activists"

    Hmm... Come to think of it, jihad groups can infiltrate the U.S. through the southern border. What remains of the border anyway.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    Israel seems to be one of the few countries with a good sense of self-preservation.

    That’s a very good observation, Dr. Dew.

    The rest of us would do well to look to Israel and its people for examples of how to “establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.”

    And whenever anyone criticizes us for doing one of those things, we can always point to Israel and say, “if it’s good enough for them…”

  56. @Alastair Trumpington
    @neutral


    If ANY country did what Israel did, its very obvious how the media will play the narrative to attack that nation.
     
    Oh look, a NY Times editorial attacking Hungary for it's response to the immigrant crisis in Europe. We didn't have to wait very long for that.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/07/opinion/hungarys-xenophobic-response.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    Nicholas Kristof — who reveals that his father was a Rumanian refugee — also weighs in on the crisis and the moral imperatives, etc. involved. And, not surprisingly, he proposed military intervention.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/06/opinion/sunday/nicholas-kristof-refugees-who-could-be-us.html?action=click&contentCollection=Opinion&module=MostPopularFB&version=Full&region=Marginalia&src=me&pgtype=article

    • Replies: @Bill B.
    @SPMoore8

    Keep Kristof away from this. Everything he touches turns to dust.

    He never paid any price, for example, for having repeatedly promoted and endorsed a scam charity run by a crook who claimed to rescue child prostitutes in Cambodia.

    http://swallowingthecamel.me/2014/07/07/somaly-mam-and-the-dark-side-of-charity/

    Kristof is the epitome of the all-posture, no-wisdom journalist.

    , @Romanian
    @SPMoore8

    I read that. His father wasn't a Romanian refugee, he was a Polish Armenian. After his region was annexed to the Ukrainian SSR (he was probably from around Lvov or so, the whole Western Ukraine was previously Polish), he passed through newly Communist Romania looking to settle, didn't like what he saw, and made his way westward. Notably, he passed on France for fear that they would not consider his future offspring to be entirely French (which has proven to be false), even though he spoke fluent French and had a French education. So he went to the US. Less a refugee and more of a migrant?

  57. @anon
    @ScarletNumber


    Meh, she got in the car with him.
     
    It's so hard to not fly into a rage all the time.

    #

    carguy: hey girl, wanna get in my car

    littlewhitegirl: no

    carguy: are you racist then?

    littlewhitegirl: no

    carguy: why you don't want to get in my car then, you must be racist

    littlewhitegirl: no

    carguy: you're just racist

    repeat until she gets in the car

    #

    The entire media and school system pre-grooms white children for rape by telling them the worst thing is being racist - worse than talking to strangers.

    Happening every single day all over the western world.

    Millions.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    carguy: why you don’t want to get in my car then, you must be racist

    littlewhitegirl: no

    carguy: you’re just racist

    repeat until she gets in the car

    Beware the Ides of March.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Reg Cæsar

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7WPI4TJImo

  58. @FactsAreImportant
    @Dew

    Why are they rejecting the food and water? Not halal?

    There have been multiple reports of food-rejection. What's up?

    Replies: @Bill B.

    Looking at a couple of the video clips my impression is “f*ck a bottle of water. I want an apartment in Germany”.

    • Replies: @unpc downunder
    @Bill B.

    Speaking of immigration pictures. Will the irresponsible western media stop revving up the over-developed empathy traits of western white women by showing them staged pics of Syrians kids being passed under barbed wired fences.

    I think there's a good case for banning media photography in the case of vital national security issues and forcing the media to communicate information by text and spoken word only. That way people can react to such stories with their heads instead of their hearts. People didn't seem to be so irrational in the days before photography became widespread.

    Replies: @anon

  59. @Anonymous
    @Art


    @Anonymous
    Israel murdered 2,300 Palestinians last year – payback is a bitch.

    Maybe Zionist Israel should reverse its fascist course.

     

    Dude, octogenarian Holocaust survivors in Holland had nothing to do with Palestinian getting killed in Israel or PA. Get a grip.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Dude, octogenarian Holocaust survivors in Holland had nothing to do with Palestinian getting killed in Israel or PA. Get a grip.

    Weren’t those Palestinians killed by Jews?

  60. @SPMoore8
    @Alastair Trumpington

    Nicholas Kristof -- who reveals that his father was a Rumanian refugee -- also weighs in on the crisis and the moral imperatives, etc. involved. And, not surprisingly, he proposed military intervention.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/06/opinion/sunday/nicholas-kristof-refugees-who-could-be-us.html?action=click&contentCollection=Opinion&module=MostPopularFB&version=Full&region=Marginalia&src=me&pgtype=article

    Replies: @Bill B., @Romanian

    Keep Kristof away from this. Everything he touches turns to dust.

    He never paid any price, for example, for having repeatedly promoted and endorsed a scam charity run by a crook who claimed to rescue child prostitutes in Cambodia.

    http://swallowingthecamel.me/2014/07/07/somaly-mam-and-the-dark-side-of-charity/

    Kristof is the epitome of the all-posture, no-wisdom journalist.

  61. @Name Withheld
    @Jim Sweeney

    Isn't that one of the fantasies liberals have, to sell all of The Catholic Church's wealth, art, and buildings and "help the poor".

    Replies: @FactsAreImportant, @anonymous coward

    Isn’t that one of the fantasies liberals have, to sell all of The Catholic Church’s wealth, art, and buildings and “help the poor”.

    There was a movie about this a long time ago. The Shoes of the Fisherman. Starred Anthony Quinn.

  62. @Anonymous
    I like immigration if for no other reason it scares you jerks shirtless .

    The thought of a black man making love to your daughter makes me smile.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anon, @FactsAreImportant, @Bill B., @unpc downunder

    You’re right it does scare me shirtless. But then again I have a fully-functioning left frontal lobe and you obviously don’t.

  63. @Bill B.
    @FactsAreImportant

    Looking at a couple of the video clips my impression is "f*ck a bottle of water. I want an apartment in Germany".

    Replies: @unpc downunder

    Speaking of immigration pictures. Will the irresponsible western media stop revving up the over-developed empathy traits of western white women by showing them staged pics of Syrians kids being passed under barbed wired fences.

    I think there’s a good case for banning media photography in the case of vital national security issues and forcing the media to communicate information by text and spoken word only. That way people can react to such stories with their heads instead of their hearts. People didn’t seem to be so irrational in the days before photography became widespread.

    • Replies: @anon
    @unpc downunder


    Will the irresponsible western media stop revving up the over-developed empathy traits of western white women...
     
    That's been their primary tactic for 50 years so I doubt they're going to change now - hence the importance of censoring the tidal wave of sexual violence unleashed on Europe over the last 20.

    Replies: @Obelix

  64. @Wilkey
    Israel has a fence and Saudi Arabia has a fence. The Bush family's two favorite countries have fences. The United States, which is quite a bit further down the list, does not have one, nor do they want it to.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Kyra

    Mexico isn’t one of the Bush family’s two favorite countries?

  65. @neutral
    And some people here will accuse the alt right of being conspiracy nuts when one asks questions why its just white nations that have to take in the 3rd world swarm. If ANY country did what Israel did, its very obvious how the media will play the narrative to attack that nation.

    Despite all the overwhelming evidence that shows otherwise, there are some that argue that an alt righter should to support Israel and its diaspora instead of being against it because ..., actually I don't know because. I have yet to get anyone (here or any other site that is open to discussion) to answer this very simple question.

    Replies: @Ben Tzot-Abrit, @Alastair Trumpington, @Deduction, @Gabriel m

    And some people here will accuse the alt right of being conspiracy nuts when one asks questions why its just white nations that have to take in the 3rd world swarm. If ANY country did what Israel did, its very obvious how the media will play the narrative to attack that nation.

    I’m shocked that the Israeli liberals want to let them in. That is mad. There is no faction in Syria that supports Israel’s right to exist. How dumb would you have to be to advocate taking in large numbers of your avowed enemies?

    It’d be pretty weird for Israel to take in Syrian Sunni Arabs, when Palestinian Sunni Arabs can’t get in!

  66. @Clyde
    Now that Iranian sanctions are being lifted, this means a wealthier Iran is going to spend more on weaponry because its ultimate goal is to convert Sunni Arab oil nations to Shiite. To become the strong horse that others (the Arab Muslim rabble) will bet on. Thus Israel has even less margin for error. This is one reason for this last Israeli fence being built.
    Is Putin's Russia pro-Shiite or pro-Sunni in the Middle East? If you don't know you can go home right now. btw 40% of Middle East Muslims are Shiite when you count Iran as in the Middle East

    Iran went from Sunni to Shiite very quickly in the 1700s. Mostly due to a change in the ruling dynasty. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_conversion_of_Iran_to_Shia_Islam

    Replies: @Deduction

    Now that Iranian sanctions are being lifted, this means a wealthier Iran is going to spend more on weaponry because its ultimate goal is to convert Sunni Arab oil nations to Shiite.

    Yes, yes those evil Iranians…sure…

    That is their goal in the same way that one of my goals is to sleep with Angelina Jolie. It’s a goal but because it ain’t ever going to happen I do not make any effort at all to reach it. It’s entirely futile.

    You have no understanding of Iran. They have an underdog religion, an underdog position in the region and are trying to make the best of it they can. That is all.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Deduction

    There is actually a good reason for the Saudis to import Syrian Sunnis as immigrants, several millions of them would make the Saudi and other similar regimes secure.

    , @Clyde
    @Deduction

    So you are another cuckoo fan of Iranian mullahs. You pre-submitting (to Islam) deep thinkers are as common as dirt at unz.com

  67. @E. Harding
    Anyone have a guess at why Israel and Jordan support the Islamic State (and before that, supported Jabhat al-Nusra?):
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Syrian_Civil_War_detailed_map

    Replies: @Deduction, @Kyra Nelson, @Kyra Nelson

    Neither Israel nor Jordan support IS….there is no evidence for them doing so.

    It’s amazing with Muslim Middle Easterners. Their favourite tactic to undermine their enemy is to claim that they are a secret Jew. Thus all major figures in the Middle East have been accused of being secret Jews…you will not find one who has not.

    And then they say that Israel is backing their enemy….

    • Replies: @E. Harding
    @Deduction

    Then why is IS at Israel's border, behind regime lines? Doesn't Israel bomb Syrian and Hezbollah positions all the time? And Israel and Jordan have a long record of supporting Nusra; so there's no surprise they'd support IS.

    BTW, both Turkey (vaguely pro-Hamas) and Israel support IS, as well as the U.S. (indirectly, via not putting any pressure on Turkey or doing anything to combat IS) and Jordan. All these are well-known for aiding Nusra as well.

    Replies: @Gabriel m

  68. @Ben Tzot-Abrit
    @Carl8745


    You need to stop treating the Netanyahu administration as synonymous with Israel and Israel as synonymous with Jews.
     
    Steve doesn't characterize Israel as synonymous with Jews, that's absurd. He has a better handle on the competing/overlapping interests between Israel and the diaspora than do the vast majority of American Jews.

    The Netanyahu administration reflects the current and future political direction of Israel far better than do the Labor-derived parties cited by the Times. The existence of the Meretz party is no longer even worth noting alongside Netanyahu's idlest mid-day thought. Shas and other very-far-right groups are more relevant.

    Replies: @Deduction

    I’ve been to Israel and it was my observation that the more Arabic, but still Jewish the Israeli, the more hard right they would be.

    I can’t tell if it’s genetic, cultural, a factor of one’s grandparents being kicked out from Arab countries or simply that if you’re Arab it’s much easier to bat aside accusations of racism against Arabs.

    • Replies: @Ben Tzot-Abrit
    @Deduction


    I’ve been to Israel and it was my observation that the more Arabic, but still Jewish the Israeli, the more hard right they would be.
     
    I think your observation was very sound.

    As for why, I think every one of the factors you mention plays a part. Though I don't think most Israeli Jews with origins in the Arab world even concern themselves with accusations of racism. Racism is something Ashkenazim think about, mostly.
  69. @neutral
    And some people here will accuse the alt right of being conspiracy nuts when one asks questions why its just white nations that have to take in the 3rd world swarm. If ANY country did what Israel did, its very obvious how the media will play the narrative to attack that nation.

    Despite all the overwhelming evidence that shows otherwise, there are some that argue that an alt righter should to support Israel and its diaspora instead of being against it because ..., actually I don't know because. I have yet to get anyone (here or any other site that is open to discussion) to answer this very simple question.

    Replies: @Ben Tzot-Abrit, @Alastair Trumpington, @Deduction, @Gabriel m

    No, to be crude, you should support Israel and oppose the Jewish diaspora (which mostly means the U.S.). To be less crude, you should support the majority of Israeli Jews and the minority of diaspora Jews who oppose one worldist globalism, and oppose the majority of diaspora Jews and the minority of Israeli Jews who support it. Or, to make it a bit more crude again, you should support people of any group who are on the right side, and oppose people on the wrong side and stop obsessing about Jews.

    Speaking as someone who lives in England, I find the idea that the media, and the left wing media in general, gives Israel some kind of a pass, to be nothing short of absurd. On top of this there is an almost perfect correlation between opposition to Israel and support for mass immigration.

    As for European Jews, their voting patterns are about the same as indigenous white Europeans. In England they voted Tory more than any religious group. I get that Steve Sailer is trolling American Jews, but actually this is just a bit unfair. Yeah you can find “Jewish Leaders” saying open the borders, but no more so than Anglicans and Catholics, actually less so.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Gabriel m

    To be less crude, you should support the majority of Israeli Jews and the minority of diaspora Jews who oppose one worldist globalism, and oppose the majority of diaspora Jews and the minority of Israeli Jews who support it. Or, to make it a bit more crude again, you should support people of any group who are on the right side, and oppose people on the wrong side and stop obsessing about Jews.

    The majority of Israeli Jews support "one worldist globalism"--applied to Western countries but not Israel.

    Replies: @Gabriel m

  70. @Deduction
    @Clyde


    Now that Iranian sanctions are being lifted, this means a wealthier Iran is going to spend more on weaponry because its ultimate goal is to convert Sunni Arab oil nations to Shiite.
     
    Yes, yes those evil Iranians...sure...

    That is their goal in the same way that one of my goals is to sleep with Angelina Jolie. It's a goal but because it ain't ever going to happen I do not make any effort at all to reach it. It's entirely futile.

    You have no understanding of Iran. They have an underdog religion, an underdog position in the region and are trying to make the best of it they can. That is all.

    Replies: @Sean, @Clyde

    There is actually a good reason for the Saudis to import Syrian Sunnis as immigrants, several millions of them would make the Saudi and other similar regimes secure.

  71. @Deduction
    @Ben Tzot-Abrit

    I've been to Israel and it was my observation that the more Arabic, but still Jewish the Israeli, the more hard right they would be.

    I can't tell if it's genetic, cultural, a factor of one's grandparents being kicked out from Arab countries or simply that if you're Arab it's much easier to bat aside accusations of racism against Arabs.

    Replies: @Ben Tzot-Abrit

    I’ve been to Israel and it was my observation that the more Arabic, but still Jewish the Israeli, the more hard right they would be.

    I think your observation was very sound.

    As for why, I think every one of the factors you mention plays a part. Though I don’t think most Israeli Jews with origins in the Arab world even concern themselves with accusations of racism. Racism is something Ashkenazim think about, mostly.

  72. @SPMoore8
    @Alastair Trumpington

    Nicholas Kristof -- who reveals that his father was a Rumanian refugee -- also weighs in on the crisis and the moral imperatives, etc. involved. And, not surprisingly, he proposed military intervention.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/06/opinion/sunday/nicholas-kristof-refugees-who-could-be-us.html?action=click&contentCollection=Opinion&module=MostPopularFB&version=Full&region=Marginalia&src=me&pgtype=article

    Replies: @Bill B., @Romanian

    I read that. His father wasn’t a Romanian refugee, he was a Polish Armenian. After his region was annexed to the Ukrainian SSR (he was probably from around Lvov or so, the whole Western Ukraine was previously Polish), he passed through newly Communist Romania looking to settle, didn’t like what he saw, and made his way westward. Notably, he passed on France for fear that they would not consider his future offspring to be entirely French (which has proven to be false), even though he spoke fluent French and had a French education. So he went to the US. Less a refugee and more of a migrant?

    • Agree: SPMoore8
  73. @Deduction
    @Clyde


    Now that Iranian sanctions are being lifted, this means a wealthier Iran is going to spend more on weaponry because its ultimate goal is to convert Sunni Arab oil nations to Shiite.
     
    Yes, yes those evil Iranians...sure...

    That is their goal in the same way that one of my goals is to sleep with Angelina Jolie. It's a goal but because it ain't ever going to happen I do not make any effort at all to reach it. It's entirely futile.

    You have no understanding of Iran. They have an underdog religion, an underdog position in the region and are trying to make the best of it they can. That is all.

    Replies: @Sean, @Clyde

    So you are another cuckoo fan of Iranian mullahs. You pre-submitting (to Islam) deep thinkers are as common as dirt at unz.com

  74. Speaking as someone who lives in England, I find the idea that the media, and the left wing media in general, gives Israel some kind of a pass, to be nothing short of absurd. On top of this there is an almost perfect correlation between opposition to Israel and support for mass immigration

    Exactly.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Deduction

    On top of this there is an almost perfect correlation between opposition to Israel and support for mass immigration

    Perhaps, but there is definitely a a near perfect correlation between support of Israel and support of mass immigration into countries not named Israel.

  75. @Name Withheld
    @Jim Sweeney

    Isn't that one of the fantasies liberals have, to sell all of The Catholic Church's wealth, art, and buildings and "help the poor".

    Replies: @FactsAreImportant, @anonymous coward

    Isn’t that one of the fantasies liberals have, to sell all of The Catholic Church’s wealth, art, and buildings and “help the poor”.

    Lol. Indeed, a fantasy with a very old tradition:

    And being in Bethany in the house of Simon the leper, as he sat at meat, there came a woman having an alabaster box of ointment of spikenard very precious; and she brake the box, and poured it on his head. And there were some that had indignation within themselves, and said, Why was this waste of the ointment made? For it might have been sold for more than three hundred pence, and have been given to the poor. And they murmured against her. And Jesus said, Let her alone; why trouble ye her? she hath wrought a good work on me. For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always. She hath done what she could: she is come aforehand to anoint my body to the burying. Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her. And Judas Iscariot, one of the twelve, went unto the chief priests, to betray him unto them.

  76. @Steve Sailer
    @Carl8745

    Yeah, this Netanyahu guy is just a flash in the pan. He's the Donald Trump of Israel. He'll never last more than a week or two near the top.

    Replies: @Terrance

    What percentage of Israelis voted against him? That’s the kind of thing you’re not supposed to ask.

  77. @Jus' Sayin'...
    @iSteveFan

    And, unlike the carrier, no one will be able to destroy the fence with a hypersonic missile.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    “And, unlike the carrier, no one will be able to destroy the fence with a hypersonic missile.”

    And also unlike the carrier, it would actually protect the nation and its people.

  78. @ScarletNumber
    @Anonymous

    Meh, she got in the car with him.

    Replies: @anon, @Mr. Anon

    So we can assume that if had been your daughter, you would be cool with her getting raped?

  79. @Moon
    @Dew

    Why did they reject the stuff?

    Because they were treated like crap

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    “”Why did they reject the stuff?””

    “Because they were treated like crap”

    They were treated like refugees. If they don’t want to be treated like refugees, they shouldn’t be refugees. They shouldn’t be in Hungary at all.

  80. @Carl8745
    Steve: the left-wing Israeli parties have all been demanding Netanyahu admit more refugees. The NYT had a big thing about it today:

    Isaac Herzog, the leader of the center-left Labor Party and head of the opposition, stirred a heated national debate over the issue after he said on Saturday that “Jews cannot remain indifferent when hundreds of thousands of refugees are seeking safe harbor.” He added, “Our people experienced firsthand the silence of the world,” alluding to the Holocaust, “and cannot be indifferent in the face of the rampant murders and massacres taking place in Syria.”

    ...

    Other members of the opposition had joined Mr. Herzog’s call to take in refugees, including Zehava Galon, the leader of the left-wing Meretz party, and Elazar Stern, a legislator from the centrist Yesh Atid party. Mr. Stern invoked a gesture made by Menachem Begin, the former Likud Party leader, who, as prime minister in the late 1970s, welcomed several hundred Vietnamese boat people to Israel and granted them Israeli citizenship.

     

    You need to stop treating the Netanyahu administration as synonymous with Israel and Israel as synonymous with Jews.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Ben Tzot-Abrit, @Carl8745

    The impression I get is that Netanyahu is a “coalition of the fringes” politician in the context of Israeli politics, just like Obama is here. He is certainly loathed by the liberal establishment that runs everything over there.

  81. @Deduction

    Speaking as someone who lives in England, I find the idea that the media, and the left wing media in general, gives Israel some kind of a pass, to be nothing short of absurd. On top of this there is an almost perfect correlation between opposition to Israel and support for mass immigration
     
    Exactly.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    On top of this there is an almost perfect correlation between opposition to Israel and support for mass immigration

    Perhaps, but there is definitely a a near perfect correlation between support of Israel and support of mass immigration into countries not named Israel.

  82. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Gabriel m
    @neutral

    No, to be crude, you should support Israel and oppose the Jewish diaspora (which mostly means the U.S.). To be less crude, you should support the majority of Israeli Jews and the minority of diaspora Jews who oppose one worldist globalism, and oppose the majority of diaspora Jews and the minority of Israeli Jews who support it. Or, to make it a bit more crude again, you should support people of any group who are on the right side, and oppose people on the wrong side and stop obsessing about Jews.

    Speaking as someone who lives in England, I find the idea that the media, and the left wing media in general, gives Israel some kind of a pass, to be nothing short of absurd. On top of this there is an almost perfect correlation between opposition to Israel and support for mass immigration.

    As for European Jews, their voting patterns are about the same as indigenous white Europeans. In England they voted Tory more than any religious group. I get that Steve Sailer is trolling American Jews, but actually this is just a bit unfair. Yeah you can find "Jewish Leaders" saying open the borders, but no more so than Anglicans and Catholics, actually less so.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    To be less crude, you should support the majority of Israeli Jews and the minority of diaspora Jews who oppose one worldist globalism, and oppose the majority of diaspora Jews and the minority of Israeli Jews who support it. Or, to make it a bit more crude again, you should support people of any group who are on the right side, and oppose people on the wrong side and stop obsessing about Jews.

    The majority of Israeli Jews support “one worldist globalism”–applied to Western countries but not Israel.

    • Replies: @Gabriel m
    @Anonymous

    That is simply not true. You know nothing about Israeli Jews and, for that matter, any Jews outside the U.S. I suspect you don't actually know all that much about Jews in the U.S. either.

  83. @E. Harding
    Anyone have a guess at why Israel and Jordan support the Islamic State (and before that, supported Jabhat al-Nusra?):
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Syrian_Civil_War_detailed_map

    Replies: @Deduction, @Kyra Nelson, @Kyra Nelson

    Not sure Wikipedia is the best source for Middle East info, because they only let in certain viewpoints.

  84. @E. Harding
    Anyone have a guess at why Israel and Jordan support the Islamic State (and before that, supported Jabhat al-Nusra?):
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Syrian_Civil_War_detailed_map

    Replies: @Deduction, @Kyra Nelson, @Kyra Nelson

    Not sure Wikipedia is the best source for Middle East info, because they only let in certain viewpoints.

    • Replies: @E. Harding
    @Kyra Nelson

    Wiki's pretty fair and balanced, as well as constantly updated. It certainly has the best maps of the situation, which most people don't look at.

  85. @Wilkey
    Israel has a fence and Saudi Arabia has a fence. The Bush family's two favorite countries have fences. The United States, which is quite a bit further down the list, does not have one, nor do they want it to.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Kyra

    Think about how many jobs a fence on the U.S. southern border would create. Jobs for Americans.

  86. @Deduction
    @E. Harding

    Neither Israel nor Jordan support IS....there is no evidence for them doing so.

    It's amazing with Muslim Middle Easterners. Their favourite tactic to undermine their enemy is to claim that they are a secret Jew. Thus all major figures in the Middle East have been accused of being secret Jews...you will not find one who has not.

    And then they say that Israel is backing their enemy....

    Replies: @E. Harding

    Then why is IS at Israel’s border, behind regime lines? Doesn’t Israel bomb Syrian and Hezbollah positions all the time? And Israel and Jordan have a long record of supporting Nusra; so there’s no surprise they’d support IS.

    BTW, both Turkey (vaguely pro-Hamas) and Israel support IS, as well as the U.S. (indirectly, via not putting any pressure on Turkey or doing anything to combat IS) and Jordan. All these are well-known for aiding Nusra as well.

    • Replies: @Gabriel m
    @E. Harding

    Well, if by, all the time, you mean every six months, and if you ignore the fact that Al Nusra fights against ISIS as frequently as do Assad's forces you have the makings of a pretty sound geopolitical analysis there.

  87. @Kyra Nelson
    @E. Harding

    Not sure Wikipedia is the best source for Middle East info, because they only let in certain viewpoints.

    Replies: @E. Harding

    Wiki’s pretty fair and balanced, as well as constantly updated. It certainly has the best maps of the situation, which most people don’t look at.

  88. @Reg Cæsar
    @anon


    carguy: why you don’t want to get in my car then, you must be racist

    littlewhitegirl: no

    carguy: you’re just racist

    repeat until she gets in the car
     
    Beware the Ides of March.

    Replies: @anon

  89. @unpc downunder
    @Bill B.

    Speaking of immigration pictures. Will the irresponsible western media stop revving up the over-developed empathy traits of western white women by showing them staged pics of Syrians kids being passed under barbed wired fences.

    I think there's a good case for banning media photography in the case of vital national security issues and forcing the media to communicate information by text and spoken word only. That way people can react to such stories with their heads instead of their hearts. People didn't seem to be so irrational in the days before photography became widespread.

    Replies: @anon

    Will the irresponsible western media stop revving up the over-developed empathy traits of western white women…

    That’s been their primary tactic for 50 years so I doubt they’re going to change now – hence the importance of censoring the tidal wave of sexual violence unleashed on Europe over the last 20.

    • Replies: @Obelix
    @anon


    That’s been their primary tactic for 50 years so I doubt they’re going to change now – hence the importance of censoring the tidal wave of sexual violence unleashed on Europe over the last 20.
     
    They can't censor it due to the internet, but they can misdirect attention elsewhere. The frat boy college rape hysteria is a big part of this.
  90. @Anonymous
    @Gabriel m

    To be less crude, you should support the majority of Israeli Jews and the minority of diaspora Jews who oppose one worldist globalism, and oppose the majority of diaspora Jews and the minority of Israeli Jews who support it. Or, to make it a bit more crude again, you should support people of any group who are on the right side, and oppose people on the wrong side and stop obsessing about Jews.

    The majority of Israeli Jews support "one worldist globalism"--applied to Western countries but not Israel.

    Replies: @Gabriel m

    That is simply not true. You know nothing about Israeli Jews and, for that matter, any Jews outside the U.S. I suspect you don’t actually know all that much about Jews in the U.S. either.

  91. @E. Harding
    @Deduction

    Then why is IS at Israel's border, behind regime lines? Doesn't Israel bomb Syrian and Hezbollah positions all the time? And Israel and Jordan have a long record of supporting Nusra; so there's no surprise they'd support IS.

    BTW, both Turkey (vaguely pro-Hamas) and Israel support IS, as well as the U.S. (indirectly, via not putting any pressure on Turkey or doing anything to combat IS) and Jordan. All these are well-known for aiding Nusra as well.

    Replies: @Gabriel m

    Well, if by, all the time, you mean every six months, and if you ignore the fact that Al Nusra fights against ISIS as frequently as do Assad’s forces you have the makings of a pretty sound geopolitical analysis there.

  92. @anon
    @unpc downunder


    Will the irresponsible western media stop revving up the over-developed empathy traits of western white women...
     
    That's been their primary tactic for 50 years so I doubt they're going to change now - hence the importance of censoring the tidal wave of sexual violence unleashed on Europe over the last 20.

    Replies: @Obelix

    That’s been their primary tactic for 50 years so I doubt they’re going to change now – hence the importance of censoring the tidal wave of sexual violence unleashed on Europe over the last 20.

    They can’t censor it due to the internet, but they can misdirect attention elsewhere. The frat boy college rape hysteria is a big part of this.

  93. The thought of a black man making love

    Homo.

  94. Meh, she got in the car with him.

    It’s the left’s overwhelming sense of compassion, their class, and their advocacy of the powerless that make them so endearing.

  95. This is false. Outside the West, virtually every country behaves more like Israel on immigration than like Germany. The narrative is only applied to Western countries.

    I think your grievance is probably not with Israel, but with the American Jews who still get weepy when they hear Emma Lazarus’s poem. Most such American Jews have not even mentally processed Israel’s immigration measures. Too much cognitive dissonance.

    Precisely. Which is why the taboo on criticizing Jews (“ANTISEMITISM!!!”) must be destroyed. It’s a bit too convenient, the way Jews get to put this cocoon around their psyches. We have to make them mentally process it.

    I can tell you from personal experience that as of 2008, Abraham Foxman was genuinely clueless, even in private among other Jews of his cohort, about his own double-standards toward US and Israel.

    And if you try to crack that nut, it’s “ANTISEMITISM!!!”

    This doesn’t excuse anything on the part of such Jews. But if you’re going to spend time lamenting the way American Jews behave, you might as well understand what’s actually going on.

    I believe you. Jews are utterly lacking in ethnic introspection, and demand (and receive) far too much deference from whites. It needs to end.

    Why did they reject the stuff?

    Because they’re human refuse.

    Steve: the left-wing Israeli parties have all been demanding Netanyahu admit more refugees. The NYT had a big thing about it today:

    Why wouldn’t they?

    1) Good PR.
    2) Can continue to pretend to be genuine leftists in good standing.
    3) Nothing (other than 1) whatsoever will come of it.

    Dude, octogenarian Holocaust survivors in Holland had nothing to do with Palestinian getting killed in Israel or PA. Get a grip.

    America helped liberate Jews from the Nazis, and diaspora Jewry thanks us by working to open our borders and demonize any hint of Israeli-like thinking (behavior’s too far off the radar) on our part.

  96. Nowhere on planet earth is big enough to absorb them.

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