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From the Prime Minister’s Office:

PM Netanyahu’s Remarks at the Start of the Cabinet Meeting

01/03/2018

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, this morning at the start of the weekly Cabinet meeting, made the following remarks:

“Every country must guard its borders. Guarding the borders against illegal infiltration is both a right and a fundamental obligation of a sovereign state. To this end, we carried out two good actions.

The first is building fences, the barrier, against the massive infiltration into the country from Africa. This fence, which was erected along the border with Sinai, has prevented – in my estimation – the entry of hundreds of thousands of infiltrators who came from other places, but did not reach Israel. Thanks to this great effort, we have lowered illegal infiltration into Israel to zero.

Now there is another mission. The second mission is to deport the illegal infiltrators who entered Israel prior to the construction of the barrier. This is approximately 60,000 people; we have deported approximately 20,000 and the mission now is to deport the rest. Last year we deported approximately 4,000 and the major effort is to deport most of those who remain, who have infiltrated and are present in Israel illegally. …

Today the Cabinet will approve the plan for deporting the infiltrators from Israel. We will step up enforcement and we will allocate budgets and personnel to implement the plan. I think that it is important that people understand that we are doing something here that is completely legal and completely essential.

The infiltrators have a clear choice – cooperate with us and leave voluntarily, respectably, humanely and legally, or we will have to use other tools at our disposal, which are also according to law. I hope that they will choose to cooperate with us. …

I am pleased that we are getting underway; this problem will be solved. Israel is, in effect, one of the only countries in the world that has succeeded in taking control of this phenomenon, and this has become more vital, and not less, in the restless world in which we live.”

 
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  1. A rhetorical resource and template, should anybody need one.

  2. The press blackout is the real story here. Their cousins in the diaspora don’t want us imitating these moves.

    Are the Gulf Arab and Iranian state broadcasters covering this? They have a significant amount of nonresident guest workers, so it would be naked hypocrisy.

    • Agree: NickG
    • Replies: @Ed
    @Maj. Kong

    The Arab states have no problem deporting Africans and others. Saudi Arabia is deporting thousands of Ethiopians at this very moment.

    , @Art Deco
    @Maj. Kong

    The press blackout is the real story here. Their cousins in the diaspora don’t want us imitating these moves.

    Why do you fancy Bret Stephens speaks for my vascular surgeon?

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Mr. Anon

    , @Dmitry
    @Maj. Kong

    No it's not. This story (about the 40,000 illegal immigrants in Israel, who have not deported for many years) has been covered endlessly over the years.

    By the way, the Israeli government is paying them to leave (several thousands dollars per person), so this is hardly a great success story.

    It is a story of Israeli incompetence. Tens of thousands of illegal immigrants were allowed to cross the border, were impossible to deport, led to a huge crime and rape wave in certain areas - and finally will cost a fortune to get to return.

    Replies: @silviosilver

  3. It this were any European or North American country, the New York Times and many other outlets in the mainstream media would have front-page articles denouncing it nearly every day for several months. How can Israel’s sensible policies get through to the western elite’s? Maybe Macron? He seems to have at least flavor-tasted the red pill.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Peter Johnson

    The fucking EU is planning to strip Poland of its 'voting rights' (democracy?, what democracy?) for doing far far less.
    The only 'crime' the Poles have committed is to refuse the imposition of aliens by unelected authority.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @YetAnotherAnon

    , @Dmitry
    @Peter Johnson

    The New York Times spends every week obsessively criticizing Israel. Have you never read the New York Times.

    Likewise most European newspapers.

    Replies: @Peter Johnson

  4. However one may feel about Israel, it’s refreshing to read the statement of a leader who puts the interests of his own people first.

    • Replies: @Moses
    @Diversity Heretic

    The Israelis and diaspora are good at putting their own interests first. We can learn from them.

    We're all Jews now.

    , @Ed
    @Diversity Heretic

    Exactly don’t get the hostility towards Jews on this one. Nothing is preventing American or European leaders from doing the same. Refugee applications have plummeted nearly 90% in Denmark. They said no more and their leaders executed their plan unapologetically. If Germans want to let in millions of migrants. If Italy wants to tug African boats to their territories that’s on them.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome, @roo_ster, @Peter Johnson, @AnotherDad

    , @AnotherDad
    @Diversity Heretic


    However one may feel about Israel, it’s refreshing to read the statement of a leader who puts the interests of his own people first.
     
    Agreed. Netanyahu is actually a leader who understands where his core obligation lies. (I wish he wasn't shilling for war with Iran--for us to be in a war with Iran. Iranian nukes landing in Tel Aviv is something Israel ought to be able to deter very easily by itself. I think he's misreading the plus/minus on handling that. But it's clear he takes his responsibilities seriously and puts Israelis' interests first.)

    I also think Netanyahu is showing himself to be a bit of stand up guy here. I'm guessing the public statement while primarily for domestic consumption was also done as a little pay back to Trump for Jerusalem. Here's a pretty clear statement on borders done by the Prime Minister of the Jewish state. Trump can tweet that sucker out and toss it in the diaspora Jews face when they start their usual "Statue of immigration", "welcoming", "borders==hate", "that's not who we are" shtick. Not that it's going to matter, I've talked to enough Jewish guys from grad school on that it's quite easy for them to have a double standard on nationalism issues specifically for Israel. But it's still some nice ammunition for Trump to use.

    Trump staff: Please point out to the big man that he should tweet this out.

    Replies: @istevefan

  5. What does Netanyahu say about legal immigration? Trump would install a big, beautiful, treasonous door in the middle of the vaporwall.

  6. Keep putting this stuff out there ISteven. People need to know.:)

  7. Is Weinstein-gate spreading to Silicon Valley, or is Weinstein-gate winding down?

    Ava was working as an executive assistant at Google when she ran into her married boss at a bondage club in San Francisco. He was getting a blow job from a woman strapped to a spanking bench who was being entered by another man from behind. Ava and her boss, an engineer, locked eyes but didn’t exchange a word and never spoke of the encounter again. However, a few months later, at a Google off-site event, another married male colleague approached her. “He hits on me, and I was like, What are you doing? Don’t touch me. Who are you again? He was like, I know who you are. The other guys said you like all this stuff.” Someone had outed Ava. She quit working at Google shortly thereafter. “The trust works one way,” Ava says. “The stigma for a woman to do it is so much higher. I’m supposed to be in this industry where everyone is open and accepting, but as a woman the punishment is so much more unknown.”

    from Vanity Fair

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Chrisnonymous


    as a woman the punishment is so much more unknown
     
    Wait a minute, wasn't the problem that her punishment was too widely known? Or was she there to be the punisher?

    Google evidently is getting it's fill of those lately.
    , @Jake
    @Chrisnonymous

    Feminism makes women stupid, self-destructive, and utterly oblivious to their spoiled brat hypocrisy.

    , @stillCARealist
    @Chrisnonymous

    "a bondage club in San Francisco"

    And here silly old me thought that there were no perverts in SF, just nice handsome boys who love each other differently. A woman was involved? Do they have those in SF?

    Bondage wins.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Chrisnonymous

    Com'on Ava, who doesn't like a woman who is open and accepting. Put your big girl panties back on.

    , @Flip
    @Chrisnonymous

    If you don't want people to think you are into fetish play and such, then don't go to orgies with people in your own town and industry.

    Maybe we should go back to chaperones and no sex outside of marriage since women appear not to have any agency these days and don't want to be accountable for their actions.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Chrisnonymous


    Ava was working as an executive assistant at Google when she ran into her married boss at a bondage club in San Francisco.
     
    What the hell was Ava doing at a bondage club in the first place? She makes it sound like she "ran into" him in the produce section at Safeway.
    , @AndrewR
    @Chrisnonymous

    Between the degeneracy and the female solipsism, that article is an absolute lulz mine.

  8. @Diversity Heretic
    However one may feel about Israel, it's refreshing to read the statement of a leader who puts the interests of his own people first.

    Replies: @Moses, @Ed, @AnotherDad

    The Israelis and diaspora are good at putting their own interests first. We can learn from them.

    We’re all Jews now.

  9. Illegal aliens in the United States on January 20, 2017: 12 million.

    Illegal aliens in the United States today: 12 million.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Stephen Marle II

    The 12 million illegals number has been around for about 15 years now. It's complete BS. 60 million people in this country speak a language other than English at home. That's 1 in 5.

    , @istevefan
    @Stephen Marle II

    Your sentiment is correct,but the numbers are probably way off. That 12 million figure has been used for years. The true number is probably twice that amount.

    , @Buck Turgidson
    @Stephen Marle II

    I am going with 35-40 million

  10. ‘Every country must guard its borders’.

    A controversial statement if there ever was one.

    *NOT* if The Economist magazine has got anything to do with it.
    – and we live under the era of government by Economist.

  11. @Peter Johnson
    It this were any European or North American country, the New York Times and many other outlets in the mainstream media would have front-page articles denouncing it nearly every day for several months. How can Israel's sensible policies get through to the western elite's? Maybe Macron? He seems to have at least flavor-tasted the red pill.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dmitry

    The fucking EU is planning to strip Poland of its ‘voting rights’ (democracy?, what democracy?) for doing far far less.
    The only ‘crime’ the Poles have committed is to refuse the imposition of aliens by unelected authority.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Anonymous

    The EU funds all the pro-immigration groups in Israel, as well as all the anti-Israel propaganda groups.

    See: https://www.ngo-monitor.org/report-category/europe/

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Anonymous

    Remarkably sensible piece in NRO

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455040/eurocrat-attacks-anti-pluralist-polish-government-hypocritical


    "One of the great points of recent contention is the EU’s insistence that Poland should accept an EU-imposed quota of refugees to ease the burden on Italy and other nations. Poland points out that by doing so, it would be breaking rules set by the EU itself. Angela Merkel’s great 2015 invitation to over a million migrants and refugees and the actions of several other European governments during the migration crisis violated the Dublin accords that member states had signed on to...

    But the act that precipitated the EU’s Article Seven proceedings was the elected Polish government’s attempt to reform the country’s judiciary. Previously, the Polish judiciary was run like a medieval guild, with judges nominating their own successors. On occasion, the sons of existing judges would get preferential treatment over qualified law professors. Judges protected one another from lawsuits and pay freezes, like members of a self-governing union. Having run their campaign promising to do the unfinished work of the 1990s in reforming Poland’s judiciary, the ruling Law and Justice party (PiS) has been passing aggressive reforms that bring more democratic checks on the judiciary and retiring some judges, on the theory that the judiciary never went through a post-Communist lustration.

    But what was the state of play before PiS came to power? Applebaum charges that PiS appointments to the Constitutional Tribunal were “illegal.” In fact, it was the previous government of Poland that committed the first overreach. Anticipating its coming electoral defeat, the Civic Platform party tried packing the Constitutional Tribunal with five new judges ahead of the elections. Several of its appointments were deemed illegal, and others certainly went against precedent.

    Was Civic Platform a model of restraint when it came to the separation of powers? No. In fact, it was partly brought down in the Polish public’s esteem when its interior minister, Bartłomiej Sienkiewicz, was caught discussing with its central bank minister, Marek Belka, how Poland’s monetary policy could be manipulated to boost Civic Platform in the polls ahead of elections.

    What about the media? Applebaum complains that the PiS government threatened to fine a television station for unflattering coverage. But when Wprost was revealing all the scandals, cronyism, and corruption of the previous government, the Civic Platform government had internal security raid the magazine’s offices and try to grab its computers, charged its employees with crimes, and accused them of working with a hostile foreign power to destabilize the government.

    Where was the EU when the previous Polish government was packing the court, violating the separation of powers, rewarding cronies, and attacking the Polish press? Nowhere to be found, of course, because that Polish government was obsequious when it came to Brussels and Germany’s leadership of Europe in particular."
     

    Replies: @Eagle Eye, @Lex

  12. This Netanyahu fellow sounds like a racist bigot. Open borders for Israel!
    Tear down that wall Mr Netanyahu!

  13. I’ll have what they’re having …

  14. Now there is another mission. The second mission is to deport the illegal infiltrators who entered Israel prior to the construction of the barrier. This is approximately 60,000 people; we have deported approximately 20,000 and the mission now is to deport the rest. Last year we deported approximately 4,000 and the major effort is to deport most of those who remain, who have infiltrated and are present in Israel illegally. …

    “Afterwards, having accomplished that, I propose we take a second look at the Falasha. Was it a mistake bringing them here? Does anyone really think they’re Jewish like the rest of us? I mean really?”

    • Replies: @Alden
    @silviosilver

    The Falashas was just a big scam by Israel, AIPAC and the rest of the lobby to gauge more money out of their gullible American Jewish donors and the American taxpayer.

    Rescuing Ethiopian non Jews meant billions in aid for Israel. At one time before the Russian invasion of Afghanistan Jewish publications were breathlessly discovering secret hidden Jews in Afghanistan who needed to be rescued and brought home to their ancient home land.

    That rescuing European Jews from the anti Semitic Muslims means stampeding them and their money and skills to Israel. That was the whole purpose of rescuing Russian Jews, money and skills.

  15. @Maj. Kong
    The press blackout is the real story here. Their cousins in the diaspora don't want us imitating these moves.

    Are the Gulf Arab and Iranian state broadcasters covering this? They have a significant amount of nonresident guest workers, so it would be naked hypocrisy.

    Replies: @Ed, @Art Deco, @Dmitry

    The Arab states have no problem deporting Africans and others. Saudi Arabia is deporting thousands of Ethiopians at this very moment.

  16. Saudi Arabia is – supposedly – building a physical barrier on the border with Yemen. THe terrain alone will make this a hideous costly undertaking.

  17. @Diversity Heretic
    However one may feel about Israel, it's refreshing to read the statement of a leader who puts the interests of his own people first.

    Replies: @Moses, @Ed, @AnotherDad

    Exactly don’t get the hostility towards Jews on this one. Nothing is preventing American or European leaders from doing the same. Refugee applications have plummeted nearly 90% in Denmark. They said no more and their leaders executed their plan unapologetically. If Germans want to let in millions of migrants. If Italy wants to tug African boats to their territories that’s on them.

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Ed



    Nothing is preventing American or European (((leaders))) from doing the same.

     

    Nothing stopping anyone except laws and men with guns.


    Pim Fortuyn
    ... He called Islam "a backward culture", and was quoted as saying that if it were legally possible, he would close the borders for Muslim immigrants.
    ... On 6 May 2002, at age 54, Fortuyn was assassinated in Hilversum, North Holland, by Volkert van der Graaf.
    ... He was released on parole in May 2014 after serving two thirds of his sentence

     

    Speaking in Berlin, Facebook boss calls Germany’s handling of European refugee crisis ‘inspiring’ and says site must do more to tackle anti-migrant hate speech

    British man arrested over Islamophobic tweet

    Man arrested for Facebook posts about Syrian refugees in Scotland

    German police raid homes over Facebook hate speech

    The founder of Germany’s far-right, anti-Islam Pegida movement goes on trial ... on hate speech charges after he called refugees “cattle” and “trash” in a Facebook post

    ADL Joins Court Challenge Against Trump’s Muslim Ban

    ADL's Role in Fighting Anti-Muslim Bigotry

    Local Law Enforcement Chiefs Return from Elite ADL Training in Israel.

    Replies: @Ed

    , @roo_ster
    @Ed

    I detect zero hostility toward Israeli Jews. Diaspora Jews, OTOH, deserve such hostility from their host nations for their support of open borders and ethnic dilution of those host nations' polities/populations.

    , @Peter Johnson
    @Ed

    No hostility -- jealousy and admiration. But hostility for the US and European elites (with a large component of US and European Jews) pushing the opposite policies and forcing the local populace, against the popular will, to accept effectively open borders.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Ed


    Exactly don’t get the hostility towards Jews on this one. Nothing is preventing American or European leaders from doing the same.
     
    Huh? Nothing is *preventing* other than the political forces--ideological, propaganda, financial--arrayed one way or another.

    That's what the argument/discussion is all about. Who's on what side, pushing for what policies.
  18. “Illegal infiltrators” is perfect. If some of our leaders started using the word infiltrators, it would help.

    Not too long ago, everyone said illegal immigrants. The left moved to undocumented immigrants. They have been trying to push undocumented citizens. I am not sure what comes after that win. Underdocumented citizen? Preferred citizen?

  19. The infiltrators have a clear choice – cooperate with us and leave voluntarily, respectably, humanely and legally, or we will have to use other tools at our disposal, which are also according to law. I hope that they will choose to cooperate with us.

    Here’s a good template for that “peaceful ethnic cleansing.”

    • Replies: @Alden
    @BenKenobi

    Didn’t Hitler say that about Jews?

  20. @Chrisnonymous
    Is Weinstein-gate spreading to Silicon Valley, or is Weinstein-gate winding down?

    Ava was working as an executive assistant at Google when she ran into her married boss at a bondage club in San Francisco. He was getting a blow job from a woman strapped to a spanking bench who was being entered by another man from behind. Ava and her boss, an engineer, locked eyes but didn’t exchange a word and never spoke of the encounter again. However, a few months later, at a Google off-site event, another married male colleague approached her. “He hits on me, and I was like, What are you doing? Don’t touch me. Who are you again? He was like, I know who you are. The other guys said you like all this stuff.” Someone had outed Ava. She quit working at Google shortly thereafter. “The trust works one way,” Ava says. “The stigma for a woman to do it is so much higher. I’m supposed to be in this industry where everyone is open and accepting, but as a woman the punishment is so much more unknown.”
     
    from Vanity Fair

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Jake, @stillCARealist, @Buffalo Joe, @Flip, @Jim Don Bob, @AndrewR

    as a woman the punishment is so much more unknown

    Wait a minute, wasn’t the problem that her punishment was too widely known? Or was she there to be the punisher?

    Google evidently is getting it’s fill of those lately.

  21. In high school, my English teachers loved to assign “compare and contrast” essays. The contrast between Netanyahu and Merkel could not be more stark. Binny has his strengths and weaknesses, but there’s no doubt that he loves the Jewish people and will take great care to protect them. Merkel’s disdain for Germans and Germany is abundantly clear. Why they have not tossed her out of office is a mystery to me.

  22. In Israel there was a serious hard right party with a paramilitary wing that countered the wave of acid-fueled radical left weirdness and left-wing terrorism of the 1960s-70s.

    Israel is the alternate history where the right wing won the 1960s. Many boomers who today gaze longingly at Israeli border policies back then were going to the protests and the concerts and the happenings: tuning in turning on and dropping out.

    So thanks a lot guys. This could be us, but u playin

    • Replies: @IHTG
    @27 year old

    Israel is where it is today because of what happened in the 1990s, not the 1960s-70s. Its Clinton and Blair equivalents failed, big time.

    There's a plausible alternate history where a more competent Israeli liberal left successfully navigates the challenges of the 1990s and Israel is currently swamped with Palestinian and foreign guest workers. Remember, the Russian immigrants didn't have to turn right. They voted for Rabin in '92.

    , @Diversity Heretic
    @27 year old

    Please check a calendar. The oldest boomer was about 20 in the mid-1960s. The youngest was about 6. Some of the older boomers may have been fueling the 1960s counterculture but policy was still largely in the hands of the WWII "Greatest Generation."

    , @Dmitry
    @27 year old

    The left is disproportionately powerful in Israel. The Israeli media and judiciary is extremely left-wing on issues like this. And they receive a lot of foreign funding as well. The left in Israel increasingly lack popular support though, due to the changing population make-up in Israel (which has large numbers of religious people, Middle Easterners and emigrants from the USSR->FSU).

  23. @27 year old
    In Israel there was a serious hard right party with a paramilitary wing that countered the wave of acid-fueled radical left weirdness and left-wing terrorism of the 1960s-70s.

    Israel is the alternate history where the right wing won the 1960s. Many boomers who today gaze longingly at Israeli border policies back then were going to the protests and the concerts and the happenings: tuning in turning on and dropping out.

    So thanks a lot guys. This could be us, but u playin

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SYbh6ob_R9M

    Replies: @IHTG, @Diversity Heretic, @Dmitry

    Israel is where it is today because of what happened in the 1990s, not the 1960s-70s. Its Clinton and Blair equivalents failed, big time.

    There’s a plausible alternate history where a more competent Israeli liberal left successfully navigates the challenges of the 1990s and Israel is currently swamped with Palestinian and foreign guest workers. Remember, the Russian immigrants didn’t have to turn right. They voted for Rabin in ’92.

  24. @27 year old
    In Israel there was a serious hard right party with a paramilitary wing that countered the wave of acid-fueled radical left weirdness and left-wing terrorism of the 1960s-70s.

    Israel is the alternate history where the right wing won the 1960s. Many boomers who today gaze longingly at Israeli border policies back then were going to the protests and the concerts and the happenings: tuning in turning on and dropping out.

    So thanks a lot guys. This could be us, but u playin

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SYbh6ob_R9M

    Replies: @IHTG, @Diversity Heretic, @Dmitry

    Please check a calendar. The oldest boomer was about 20 in the mid-1960s. The youngest was about 6. Some of the older boomers may have been fueling the 1960s counterculture but policy was still largely in the hands of the WWII “Greatest Generation.”

  25. @Maj. Kong
    The press blackout is the real story here. Their cousins in the diaspora don't want us imitating these moves.

    Are the Gulf Arab and Iranian state broadcasters covering this? They have a significant amount of nonresident guest workers, so it would be naked hypocrisy.

    Replies: @Ed, @Art Deco, @Dmitry

    The press blackout is the real story here. Their cousins in the diaspora don’t want us imitating these moves.

    Why do you fancy Bret Stephens speaks for my vascular surgeon?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Art Deco


    The press blackout is the real story here. Their cousins in the diaspora don’t want us imitating these moves.
    Why do you fancy Bret Stephens speaks for my vascular surgeon?
     
    I don't. But i'm aware that if your vascular surgeon is Jewish it is considerly more likely that Brett Stephens speaks for him than if he's a gentile. Just like it's considerably more likely that the black guy up the street in the hoodie is trouble, than the white guy in the hoodie--even though most black guys are not criminals doing nasty violent stuff. Statistics.

    And it's notable that during the Trump meltdown, the speia toned immigration fanaticism has been darn near universal from Jews in the media across the political spectrum. And that's in reaction to Trump's rather ho-hum nods toward national sovreignty. The basic nationalist idea that Netanyahu points to here--that every people have a right to a border to preserve the character of the population in the nation--just sends a fair number of Jews into a fit when applied to white gentile nations.

    I find it bizzare that on a HBD blog, where folks can discuss outsized black criminality, or ethnic voting preferences or Asian/white/hispanic/black PISA scores--all statistical--that when someone mentions the--incredibly obvious--Jewish skew on immigration enthusiam or anti-nationalist propagandizing that it's all somehow suspect or they are the dreaded anti-Semite, pretty much responsible for gassing Jews.

    Replies: @Hanoi Paris Hilton

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Art Deco


    Why do you fancy Bret Stephens speaks for my vascular surgeon?
     
    So, what does your vascular surgeon think about immigration? Have you asked him? Jews vote Democratic at a rate of about 70%. And even most Republican Jews seem to be pretty soft on immigration. When 70% of a group votes for the party that promises ever increasing immigration, one may reasonably conclude that that group tends to support ever increasing immigration.

    Unchallenged spokesmen may become spokesmen, by default.

    You, however, are not a spokesman. You are a prating nobody, and nobody wants to listen to you.

  26. @Chrisnonymous
    Is Weinstein-gate spreading to Silicon Valley, or is Weinstein-gate winding down?

    Ava was working as an executive assistant at Google when she ran into her married boss at a bondage club in San Francisco. He was getting a blow job from a woman strapped to a spanking bench who was being entered by another man from behind. Ava and her boss, an engineer, locked eyes but didn’t exchange a word and never spoke of the encounter again. However, a few months later, at a Google off-site event, another married male colleague approached her. “He hits on me, and I was like, What are you doing? Don’t touch me. Who are you again? He was like, I know who you are. The other guys said you like all this stuff.” Someone had outed Ava. She quit working at Google shortly thereafter. “The trust works one way,” Ava says. “The stigma for a woman to do it is so much higher. I’m supposed to be in this industry where everyone is open and accepting, but as a woman the punishment is so much more unknown.”
     
    from Vanity Fair

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Jake, @stillCARealist, @Buffalo Joe, @Flip, @Jim Don Bob, @AndrewR

    Feminism makes women stupid, self-destructive, and utterly oblivious to their spoiled brat hypocrisy.

  27. “The infiltrators have a clear choice – cooperate with us and leave voluntarily, respectably, humanely and legally, or we will have to use other tools at our disposal, which are also according to law.

    This brings media to the current controversy over so-called “dreamers” and what to do with them. “They were brought here as children through no fault of their own!” “America is the only country they know!” “We have no humane choice but to at least allow this cop of illegals stay”

    An alternate proposal that would still (maybe) be palatable to the soft hearted soccer mom types vulnerable to the emotion-based arguments given above would be to simply grant these “dreamers” a 6 month grace period to get their stuff in order and a complimentary one-way plane ticked back to their country of origin with the possibility of re-entry (but in no way guarantee) through a new Merit based immigration system Trump keeps promising us. Even throw these ‘dreamers’ some cash for their cooperation in their self-removal too (as Israel does!).

  28. @Stephen Marle II
    Illegal aliens in the United States on January 20, 2017: 12 million.

    Illegal aliens in the United States today: 12 million.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @istevefan, @Buck Turgidson

    The 12 million illegals number has been around for about 15 years now. It’s complete BS. 60 million people in this country speak a language other than English at home. That’s 1 in 5.

  29. Why do you fancy Bret Stephens speaks for my vascular surgeon?

    So, what does your vascular surgeon think about immigration? Have you asked him? Jews vote Democratic at a rate of 70%. And even most Republican Jews seem to be pretty soft on immigration.

    Unchallenged spokesmen ARE spokesmen, by default.

    You, however, are not a spokesman. You are a prating nobody, and nobody wants to listen to you.

  30. Netanyahu doesn’t want to admit the wrong kind of Jews into Israel, but thinks that America may not ban muslims from entering America.

    Netanyahu rejects Trump’s proposal to ban Muslims from entering U.S.

    The very language involved is kind of funny. Netanyahu “rejects” banning muslims from entering the U.S. Rejects? Does he get a vote? Is there an additional branch of government in our federal system that I am unaware of?

  31. @Chrisnonymous
    Is Weinstein-gate spreading to Silicon Valley, or is Weinstein-gate winding down?

    Ava was working as an executive assistant at Google when she ran into her married boss at a bondage club in San Francisco. He was getting a blow job from a woman strapped to a spanking bench who was being entered by another man from behind. Ava and her boss, an engineer, locked eyes but didn’t exchange a word and never spoke of the encounter again. However, a few months later, at a Google off-site event, another married male colleague approached her. “He hits on me, and I was like, What are you doing? Don’t touch me. Who are you again? He was like, I know who you are. The other guys said you like all this stuff.” Someone had outed Ava. She quit working at Google shortly thereafter. “The trust works one way,” Ava says. “The stigma for a woman to do it is so much higher. I’m supposed to be in this industry where everyone is open and accepting, but as a woman the punishment is so much more unknown.”
     
    from Vanity Fair

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Jake, @stillCARealist, @Buffalo Joe, @Flip, @Jim Don Bob, @AndrewR

    “a bondage club in San Francisco”

    And here silly old me thought that there were no perverts in SF, just nice handsome boys who love each other differently. A woman was involved? Do they have those in SF?

    Bondage wins.

    • LOL: dfordoom
  32. • Replies: @Eagle Eye
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Linked piece in The Hill does NOT bear out the screaming headline.

    Netanyahu's statement was anodyne boilerplate and never mentioned U.S. immigration policies:


    The state of Israel respects all religion and strictly adheres to the rights of all its citizens.
     
    As the Prime Minister of a country with a significant proportion of Muslim citizens (in Israel proper, not West Bank/Gaza), Netanyahu could hardly say anything else.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  33. @Chrisnonymous
    Is Weinstein-gate spreading to Silicon Valley, or is Weinstein-gate winding down?

    Ava was working as an executive assistant at Google when she ran into her married boss at a bondage club in San Francisco. He was getting a blow job from a woman strapped to a spanking bench who was being entered by another man from behind. Ava and her boss, an engineer, locked eyes but didn’t exchange a word and never spoke of the encounter again. However, a few months later, at a Google off-site event, another married male colleague approached her. “He hits on me, and I was like, What are you doing? Don’t touch me. Who are you again? He was like, I know who you are. The other guys said you like all this stuff.” Someone had outed Ava. She quit working at Google shortly thereafter. “The trust works one way,” Ava says. “The stigma for a woman to do it is so much higher. I’m supposed to be in this industry where everyone is open and accepting, but as a woman the punishment is so much more unknown.”
     
    from Vanity Fair

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Jake, @stillCARealist, @Buffalo Joe, @Flip, @Jim Don Bob, @AndrewR

    Com’on Ava, who doesn’t like a woman who is open and accepting. Put your big girl panties back on.

  34. Israel Has Built Walls, Fences And Other Barriers To Prevent Illegal Infiltration.

    Netanyahu Defends Israel.

    Treasonous Rat Politicians In The United States Push Mass Immigration Infiltration

    Treasonous Rat Politicians In The United States Aid And Abet Illegal Alien Infiltration

  35. “Every country must guard its borders. Guarding the borders against illegal infiltration is both a right and a fundamental obligation of a sovereign state. ”

    Psst! Pass the word.

  36. What does Ivanka think of this policy?

  37. @Ed
    @Diversity Heretic

    Exactly don’t get the hostility towards Jews on this one. Nothing is preventing American or European leaders from doing the same. Refugee applications have plummeted nearly 90% in Denmark. They said no more and their leaders executed their plan unapologetically. If Germans want to let in millions of migrants. If Italy wants to tug African boats to their territories that’s on them.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome, @roo_ster, @Peter Johnson, @AnotherDad

    Nothing is preventing American or European (((leaders))) from doing the same.

    Nothing stopping anyone except laws and men with guns.

    Pim Fortuyn
    … He called Islam “a backward culture”, and was quoted as saying that if it were legally possible, he would close the borders for Muslim immigrants.
    … On 6 May 2002, at age 54, Fortuyn was assassinated in Hilversum, North Holland, by Volkert van der Graaf.
    … He was released on parole in May 2014 after serving two thirds of his sentence

    Speaking in Berlin, Facebook boss calls Germany’s handling of European refugee crisis ‘inspiring’ and says site must do more to tackle anti-migrant hate speech

    British man arrested over Islamophobic tweet

    Man arrested for Facebook posts about Syrian refugees in Scotland

    German police raid homes over Facebook hate speech

    The founder of Germany’s far-right, anti-Islam Pegida movement goes on trial … on hate speech charges after he called refugees “cattle” and “trash” in a Facebook post

    ADL Joins Court Challenge Against Trump’s Muslim Ban

    ADL’s Role in Fighting Anti-Muslim Bigotry

    Local Law Enforcement Chiefs Return from Elite ADL Training in Israel.

    • Replies: @Ed
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    The French chopped the head off of a king. Fidel landed on Cuba with what a dozen men or so.

    Belgium recently deported about 10 or so migrants to Sudan. For some reason these deportees were abused in the Sudan. Now Belgium has not only halted further deportations to Sudan but is making arrangements to bring the ones they deported back.

    No one is forcing this level of stupidity. The British people voted to leave the EU in large part because of immigration. It maybe too late but they are trying.

    Replies: @IHTG, @J.Ross

  38. @Ed
    @Diversity Heretic

    Exactly don’t get the hostility towards Jews on this one. Nothing is preventing American or European leaders from doing the same. Refugee applications have plummeted nearly 90% in Denmark. They said no more and their leaders executed their plan unapologetically. If Germans want to let in millions of migrants. If Italy wants to tug African boats to their territories that’s on them.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome, @roo_ster, @Peter Johnson, @AnotherDad

    I detect zero hostility toward Israeli Jews. Diaspora Jews, OTOH, deserve such hostility from their host nations for their support of open borders and ethnic dilution of those host nations’ polities/populations.

  39. @Ed
    @Diversity Heretic

    Exactly don’t get the hostility towards Jews on this one. Nothing is preventing American or European leaders from doing the same. Refugee applications have plummeted nearly 90% in Denmark. They said no more and their leaders executed their plan unapologetically. If Germans want to let in millions of migrants. If Italy wants to tug African boats to their territories that’s on them.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome, @roo_ster, @Peter Johnson, @AnotherDad

    No hostility — jealousy and admiration. But hostility for the US and European elites (with a large component of US and European Jews) pushing the opposite policies and forcing the local populace, against the popular will, to accept effectively open borders.

  40. @Stephen Marle II
    Illegal aliens in the United States on January 20, 2017: 12 million.

    Illegal aliens in the United States today: 12 million.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @istevefan, @Buck Turgidson

    Your sentiment is correct,but the numbers are probably way off. That 12 million figure has been used for years. The true number is probably twice that amount.

  41. @Art Deco
    @Maj. Kong

    The press blackout is the real story here. Their cousins in the diaspora don’t want us imitating these moves.

    Why do you fancy Bret Stephens speaks for my vascular surgeon?

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Mr. Anon

    The press blackout is the real story here. Their cousins in the diaspora don’t want us imitating these moves.
    Why do you fancy Bret Stephens speaks for my vascular surgeon?

    I don’t. But i’m aware that if your vascular surgeon is Jewish it is considerly more likely that Brett Stephens speaks for him than if he’s a gentile. Just like it’s considerably more likely that the black guy up the street in the hoodie is trouble, than the white guy in the hoodie–even though most black guys are not criminals doing nasty violent stuff. Statistics.

    And it’s notable that during the Trump meltdown, the speia toned immigration fanaticism has been darn near universal from Jews in the media across the political spectrum. And that’s in reaction to Trump’s rather ho-hum nods toward national sovreignty. The basic nationalist idea that Netanyahu points to here–that every people have a right to a border to preserve the character of the population in the nation–just sends a fair number of Jews into a fit when applied to white gentile nations.

    I find it bizzare that on a HBD blog, where folks can discuss outsized black criminality, or ethnic voting preferences or Asian/white/hispanic/black PISA scores–all statistical–that when someone mentions the–incredibly obvious–Jewish skew on immigration enthusiam or anti-nationalist propagandizing that it’s all somehow suspect or they are the dreaded anti-Semite, pretty much responsible for gassing Jews.

    • Agree: Peter Johnson, Maj. Kong
    • Replies: @Hanoi Paris Hilton
    @AnotherDad

    Mister Roissy, over at Chateau Heartiste —not known for luv luv luvvin' dem Jooooos— posted an exit poll from the 2016 general that showed 58.8% of married, penilo-American, self-identified Jooooos having voted for Trump. Wow! If this is a valid survey, maybe it's time to back off a bit on the “Die Juden sind unser Ungluck!” crapola. But then again, Roissy himself sure hasn't backed off.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @AndrewR

  42. @Ed
    @Diversity Heretic

    Exactly don’t get the hostility towards Jews on this one. Nothing is preventing American or European leaders from doing the same. Refugee applications have plummeted nearly 90% in Denmark. They said no more and their leaders executed their plan unapologetically. If Germans want to let in millions of migrants. If Italy wants to tug African boats to their territories that’s on them.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome, @roo_ster, @Peter Johnson, @AnotherDad

    Exactly don’t get the hostility towards Jews on this one. Nothing is preventing American or European leaders from doing the same.

    Huh? Nothing is *preventing* other than the political forces–ideological, propaganda, financial–arrayed one way or another.

    That’s what the argument/discussion is all about. Who’s on what side, pushing for what policies.

  43. @Chrisnonymous
    Is Weinstein-gate spreading to Silicon Valley, or is Weinstein-gate winding down?

    Ava was working as an executive assistant at Google when she ran into her married boss at a bondage club in San Francisco. He was getting a blow job from a woman strapped to a spanking bench who was being entered by another man from behind. Ava and her boss, an engineer, locked eyes but didn’t exchange a word and never spoke of the encounter again. However, a few months later, at a Google off-site event, another married male colleague approached her. “He hits on me, and I was like, What are you doing? Don’t touch me. Who are you again? He was like, I know who you are. The other guys said you like all this stuff.” Someone had outed Ava. She quit working at Google shortly thereafter. “The trust works one way,” Ava says. “The stigma for a woman to do it is so much higher. I’m supposed to be in this industry where everyone is open and accepting, but as a woman the punishment is so much more unknown.”
     
    from Vanity Fair

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Jake, @stillCARealist, @Buffalo Joe, @Flip, @Jim Don Bob, @AndrewR

    If you don’t want people to think you are into fetish play and such, then don’t go to orgies with people in your own town and industry.

    Maybe we should go back to chaperones and no sex outside of marriage since women appear not to have any agency these days and don’t want to be accountable for their actions.

  44. @Diversity Heretic
    However one may feel about Israel, it's refreshing to read the statement of a leader who puts the interests of his own people first.

    Replies: @Moses, @Ed, @AnotherDad

    However one may feel about Israel, it’s refreshing to read the statement of a leader who puts the interests of his own people first.

    Agreed. Netanyahu is actually a leader who understands where his core obligation lies. (I wish he wasn’t shilling for war with Iran–for us to be in a war with Iran. Iranian nukes landing in Tel Aviv is something Israel ought to be able to deter very easily by itself. I think he’s misreading the plus/minus on handling that. But it’s clear he takes his responsibilities seriously and puts Israelis’ interests first.)

    I also think Netanyahu is showing himself to be a bit of stand up guy here. I’m guessing the public statement while primarily for domestic consumption was also done as a little pay back to Trump for Jerusalem. Here’s a pretty clear statement on borders done by the Prime Minister of the Jewish state. Trump can tweet that sucker out and toss it in the diaspora Jews face when they start their usual “Statue of immigration”, “welcoming”, “borders==hate”, “that’s not who we are” shtick. Not that it’s going to matter, I’ve talked to enough Jewish guys from grad school on that it’s quite easy for them to have a double standard on nationalism issues specifically for Israel. But it’s still some nice ammunition for Trump to use.

    Trump staff: Please point out to the big man that he should tweet this out.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    @AnotherDad


    I’m guessing the public statement while primarily for domestic consumption was also done as a little pay back to Trump for Jerusalem.
     
    I think Jews really have an opportunity to co-opt the immigration debate that would forever endear them to most Americans. Though Jews have been one of the groups that has pushed strongest for mass immigration, most Americans are either unaware or afraid to voice this. For example, Ann Coulter, clearly a smart person, appears to believe Teddy Kennedy was the author of the 1965 Immigration Act. In fact Rush Limbaugh, another high IQ guy, just blamed Teddy on the radio today for the 65 act.

    Given this, if Jews were to become immigration hawks, ala Stephen Miller, they could forever endear themselves to most Americans.

    But would they do this?
  45. @Chrisnonymous
    Is Weinstein-gate spreading to Silicon Valley, or is Weinstein-gate winding down?

    Ava was working as an executive assistant at Google when she ran into her married boss at a bondage club in San Francisco. He was getting a blow job from a woman strapped to a spanking bench who was being entered by another man from behind. Ava and her boss, an engineer, locked eyes but didn’t exchange a word and never spoke of the encounter again. However, a few months later, at a Google off-site event, another married male colleague approached her. “He hits on me, and I was like, What are you doing? Don’t touch me. Who are you again? He was like, I know who you are. The other guys said you like all this stuff.” Someone had outed Ava. She quit working at Google shortly thereafter. “The trust works one way,” Ava says. “The stigma for a woman to do it is so much higher. I’m supposed to be in this industry where everyone is open and accepting, but as a woman the punishment is so much more unknown.”
     
    from Vanity Fair

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Jake, @stillCARealist, @Buffalo Joe, @Flip, @Jim Don Bob, @AndrewR

    Ava was working as an executive assistant at Google when she ran into her married boss at a bondage club in San Francisco.

    What the hell was Ava doing at a bondage club in the first place? She makes it sound like she “ran into” him in the produce section at Safeway.

  46. I am assuming that the children born in Israel of illegal alien parents don’t get automatic citizenship as in the US. We really need to change that birthright citizenship rule as other countries have done.

  47. @Peter Johnson
    It this were any European or North American country, the New York Times and many other outlets in the mainstream media would have front-page articles denouncing it nearly every day for several months. How can Israel's sensible policies get through to the western elite's? Maybe Macron? He seems to have at least flavor-tasted the red pill.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dmitry

    The New York Times spends every week obsessively criticizing Israel. Have you never read the New York Times.

    Likewise most European newspapers.

    • Replies: @Peter Johnson
    @Dmitry

    The New York Times criticizes Israel every week? I read it every day. The New York Times has at least 100 articles implicitly or explicitly pushing free borders on European countries and the USA per one article meekly criticizing Israel, using their indoors voice. Netanyahu's statement will not be considered "fit to print" since it does not fit the New York Times narrative, and will not appear at all. If a European or USA political figure had uttered the exact same words, it would be on the front page for a month, every day, with the New York Times calling the speaker a hateful madman and characterizing him as the living embodiment of everything evil.

    Replies: @Dmitry

  48. @Anonymous
    @Peter Johnson

    The fucking EU is planning to strip Poland of its 'voting rights' (democracy?, what democracy?) for doing far far less.
    The only 'crime' the Poles have committed is to refuse the imposition of aliens by unelected authority.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @YetAnotherAnon

    The EU funds all the pro-immigration groups in Israel, as well as all the anti-Israel propaganda groups.

    See: https://www.ngo-monitor.org/report-category/europe/

  49. @Maj. Kong
    The press blackout is the real story here. Their cousins in the diaspora don't want us imitating these moves.

    Are the Gulf Arab and Iranian state broadcasters covering this? They have a significant amount of nonresident guest workers, so it would be naked hypocrisy.

    Replies: @Ed, @Art Deco, @Dmitry

    No it’s not. This story (about the 40,000 illegal immigrants in Israel, who have not deported for many years) has been covered endlessly over the years.

    By the way, the Israeli government is paying them to leave (several thousands dollars per person), so this is hardly a great success story.

    It is a story of Israeli incompetence. Tens of thousands of illegal immigrants were allowed to cross the border, were impossible to deport, led to a huge crime and rape wave in certain areas – and finally will cost a fortune to get to return.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @Dmitry


    By the way, the Israeli government is paying them to leave (several thousands dollars per person), so this is hardly a great success story.
     
    Lol, get real. A few thousand dollars is a bargain basement price.
  50. @27 year old
    In Israel there was a serious hard right party with a paramilitary wing that countered the wave of acid-fueled radical left weirdness and left-wing terrorism of the 1960s-70s.

    Israel is the alternate history where the right wing won the 1960s. Many boomers who today gaze longingly at Israeli border policies back then were going to the protests and the concerts and the happenings: tuning in turning on and dropping out.

    So thanks a lot guys. This could be us, but u playin

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SYbh6ob_R9M

    Replies: @IHTG, @Diversity Heretic, @Dmitry

    The left is disproportionately powerful in Israel. The Israeli media and judiciary is extremely left-wing on issues like this. And they receive a lot of foreign funding as well. The left in Israel increasingly lack popular support though, due to the changing population make-up in Israel (which has large numbers of religious people, Middle Easterners and emigrants from the USSR->FSU).

  51. istevefan says:
    @AnotherDad
    @Diversity Heretic


    However one may feel about Israel, it’s refreshing to read the statement of a leader who puts the interests of his own people first.
     
    Agreed. Netanyahu is actually a leader who understands where his core obligation lies. (I wish he wasn't shilling for war with Iran--for us to be in a war with Iran. Iranian nukes landing in Tel Aviv is something Israel ought to be able to deter very easily by itself. I think he's misreading the plus/minus on handling that. But it's clear he takes his responsibilities seriously and puts Israelis' interests first.)

    I also think Netanyahu is showing himself to be a bit of stand up guy here. I'm guessing the public statement while primarily for domestic consumption was also done as a little pay back to Trump for Jerusalem. Here's a pretty clear statement on borders done by the Prime Minister of the Jewish state. Trump can tweet that sucker out and toss it in the diaspora Jews face when they start their usual "Statue of immigration", "welcoming", "borders==hate", "that's not who we are" shtick. Not that it's going to matter, I've talked to enough Jewish guys from grad school on that it's quite easy for them to have a double standard on nationalism issues specifically for Israel. But it's still some nice ammunition for Trump to use.

    Trump staff: Please point out to the big man that he should tweet this out.

    Replies: @istevefan

    I’m guessing the public statement while primarily for domestic consumption was also done as a little pay back to Trump for Jerusalem.

    I think Jews really have an opportunity to co-opt the immigration debate that would forever endear them to most Americans. Though Jews have been one of the groups that has pushed strongest for mass immigration, most Americans are either unaware or afraid to voice this. For example, Ann Coulter, clearly a smart person, appears to believe Teddy Kennedy was the author of the 1965 Immigration Act. In fact Rush Limbaugh, another high IQ guy, just blamed Teddy on the radio today for the 65 act.

    Given this, if Jews were to become immigration hawks, ala Stephen Miller, they could forever endear themselves to most Americans.

    But would they do this?

    • LOL: IHTG
  52. Bring-em Young approved the granting of the vote to Utah women in 1870.

  53. 2015 — Netanyahu “rejects” banning Muslims from entering the U.S.

    Rejects? Does he get a vote? Is there an additional branch of government in our federal system that I am unaware of?

    Here is video from December 5, 2015, in which I state that we should be accepting no Muslim refugees into the United States. Relevant portion starts at 1:27 in video:

    http://www.wmur.com/article/syrian-refugee-rally/5086314

    Trump called for Muslim travel ban on December 7, 2015:

    https://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/07/donald-trump-calls-for-banning-muslims-from-entering-u-s/

    New Hampshire is under attack from REFUGEE OVERLOAD. The treasonous rats in the American Empire’s ruling class are using the refugee program as a demographic weapon to destroy the European Christian ancestral core of the USA.

  54. @AnotherDad
    @Art Deco


    The press blackout is the real story here. Their cousins in the diaspora don’t want us imitating these moves.
    Why do you fancy Bret Stephens speaks for my vascular surgeon?
     
    I don't. But i'm aware that if your vascular surgeon is Jewish it is considerly more likely that Brett Stephens speaks for him than if he's a gentile. Just like it's considerably more likely that the black guy up the street in the hoodie is trouble, than the white guy in the hoodie--even though most black guys are not criminals doing nasty violent stuff. Statistics.

    And it's notable that during the Trump meltdown, the speia toned immigration fanaticism has been darn near universal from Jews in the media across the political spectrum. And that's in reaction to Trump's rather ho-hum nods toward national sovreignty. The basic nationalist idea that Netanyahu points to here--that every people have a right to a border to preserve the character of the population in the nation--just sends a fair number of Jews into a fit when applied to white gentile nations.

    I find it bizzare that on a HBD blog, where folks can discuss outsized black criminality, or ethnic voting preferences or Asian/white/hispanic/black PISA scores--all statistical--that when someone mentions the--incredibly obvious--Jewish skew on immigration enthusiam or anti-nationalist propagandizing that it's all somehow suspect or they are the dreaded anti-Semite, pretty much responsible for gassing Jews.

    Replies: @Hanoi Paris Hilton

    Mister Roissy, over at Chateau Heartiste —not known for luv luv luvvin’ dem Jooooos— posted an exit poll from the 2016 general that showed 58.8% of married, penilo-American, self-identified Jooooos having voted for Trump. Wow! If this is a valid survey, maybe it’s time to back off a bit on the “Die Juden sind unser Ungluck!” crapola. But then again, Roissy himself sure hasn’t backed off.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Hanoi Paris Hilton

    What would "backing off" look like? David Brooks chatting with Bill Kristol about how immigration is Who We Are?

    , @AndrewR
    @Hanoi Paris Hilton

    Trump hasn't exactly been bad for the Jews.

  55. @Chrisnonymous
    Is Weinstein-gate spreading to Silicon Valley, or is Weinstein-gate winding down?

    Ava was working as an executive assistant at Google when she ran into her married boss at a bondage club in San Francisco. He was getting a blow job from a woman strapped to a spanking bench who was being entered by another man from behind. Ava and her boss, an engineer, locked eyes but didn’t exchange a word and never spoke of the encounter again. However, a few months later, at a Google off-site event, another married male colleague approached her. “He hits on me, and I was like, What are you doing? Don’t touch me. Who are you again? He was like, I know who you are. The other guys said you like all this stuff.” Someone had outed Ava. She quit working at Google shortly thereafter. “The trust works one way,” Ava says. “The stigma for a woman to do it is so much higher. I’m supposed to be in this industry where everyone is open and accepting, but as a woman the punishment is so much more unknown.”
     
    from Vanity Fair

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Jake, @stillCARealist, @Buffalo Joe, @Flip, @Jim Don Bob, @AndrewR

    Between the degeneracy and the female solipsism, that article is an absolute lulz mine.

  56. @Hanoi Paris Hilton
    @AnotherDad

    Mister Roissy, over at Chateau Heartiste —not known for luv luv luvvin' dem Jooooos— posted an exit poll from the 2016 general that showed 58.8% of married, penilo-American, self-identified Jooooos having voted for Trump. Wow! If this is a valid survey, maybe it's time to back off a bit on the “Die Juden sind unser Ungluck!” crapola. But then again, Roissy himself sure hasn't backed off.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @AndrewR

    What would “backing off” look like? David Brooks chatting with Bill Kristol about how immigration is Who We Are?

  57. @Hanoi Paris Hilton
    @AnotherDad

    Mister Roissy, over at Chateau Heartiste —not known for luv luv luvvin' dem Jooooos— posted an exit poll from the 2016 general that showed 58.8% of married, penilo-American, self-identified Jooooos having voted for Trump. Wow! If this is a valid survey, maybe it's time to back off a bit on the “Die Juden sind unser Ungluck!” crapola. But then again, Roissy himself sure hasn't backed off.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @AndrewR

    Trump hasn’t exactly been bad for the Jews.

  58. Eagle Eye says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Linked piece in The Hill does NOT bear out the screaming headline.

    Netanyahu’s statement was anodyne boilerplate and never mentioned U.S. immigration policies:

    The state of Israel respects all religion and strictly adheres to the rights of all its citizens.

    As the Prime Minister of a country with a significant proportion of Muslim citizens (in Israel proper, not West Bank/Gaza), Netanyahu could hardly say anything else.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Eagle Eye


    Netanyahu’s statement was anodyne boilerplate and never mentioned U.S. immigration policies:
     
    No, Read his statement. He said he "rejected" Trump's proposal. What business does the PM of Israel have rejecting a domestic policy proposal put forth by an American presidential candidate? What business does he have voicing an opinion on it at all?

    Replies: @Eagle Eye, @Eagle Eye

  59. @Dmitry
    @Peter Johnson

    The New York Times spends every week obsessively criticizing Israel. Have you never read the New York Times.

    Likewise most European newspapers.

    Replies: @Peter Johnson

    The New York Times criticizes Israel every week? I read it every day. The New York Times has at least 100 articles implicitly or explicitly pushing free borders on European countries and the USA per one article meekly criticizing Israel, using their indoors voice. Netanyahu’s statement will not be considered “fit to print” since it does not fit the New York Times narrative, and will not appear at all. If a European or USA political figure had uttered the exact same words, it would be on the front page for a month, every day, with the New York Times calling the speaker a hateful madman and characterizing him as the living embodiment of everything evil.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Peter Johnson

    New York Times has got a very strong anti-Israel agenda, which can be seen by anyone with any objectivity. They don't much like Israel, and they go out of their way to discredit it, subtly or otherwise.

    http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=35

    As for Israel's illegal immigration woes.

    The illegal immigrants came to Israel up to a decade ago as illegal, economic migrants. They create a crime and rape-wave in the areas they settled. The Israeli government was unable to deport a single one, due to the blockage in the Supreme Court (meanwhile the EU deports 70% of their illegal immigrants).

    There is now the immediate possibly that 10,000 of them (out of 40,000), will leave to Rwanda (being paid several thousand dollars each for the privilege), which we will believe when we see it. Netanyahu has made various promises over the years on this situation, but the only one he has implemented was the construction of the fence on the border with Egypt.

  60. @Anonymous
    @Peter Johnson

    The fucking EU is planning to strip Poland of its 'voting rights' (democracy?, what democracy?) for doing far far less.
    The only 'crime' the Poles have committed is to refuse the imposition of aliens by unelected authority.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @YetAnotherAnon

    Remarkably sensible piece in NRO

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455040/eurocrat-attacks-anti-pluralist-polish-government-hypocritical

    “One of the great points of recent contention is the EU’s insistence that Poland should accept an EU-imposed quota of refugees to ease the burden on Italy and other nations. Poland points out that by doing so, it would be breaking rules set by the EU itself. Angela Merkel’s great 2015 invitation to over a million migrants and refugees and the actions of several other European governments during the migration crisis violated the Dublin accords that member states had signed on to…

    But the act that precipitated the EU’s Article Seven proceedings was the elected Polish government’s attempt to reform the country’s judiciary. Previously, the Polish judiciary was run like a medieval guild, with judges nominating their own successors. On occasion, the sons of existing judges would get preferential treatment over qualified law professors. Judges protected one another from lawsuits and pay freezes, like members of a self-governing union. Having run their campaign promising to do the unfinished work of the 1990s in reforming Poland’s judiciary, the ruling Law and Justice party (PiS) has been passing aggressive reforms that bring more democratic checks on the judiciary and retiring some judges, on the theory that the judiciary never went through a post-Communist lustration.

    But what was the state of play before PiS came to power? Applebaum charges that PiS appointments to the Constitutional Tribunal were “illegal.” In fact, it was the previous government of Poland that committed the first overreach. Anticipating its coming electoral defeat, the Civic Platform party tried packing the Constitutional Tribunal with five new judges ahead of the elections. Several of its appointments were deemed illegal, and others certainly went against precedent.

    Was Civic Platform a model of restraint when it came to the separation of powers? No. In fact, it was partly brought down in the Polish public’s esteem when its interior minister, Bartłomiej Sienkiewicz, was caught discussing with its central bank minister, Marek Belka, how Poland’s monetary policy could be manipulated to boost Civic Platform in the polls ahead of elections.

    What about the media? Applebaum complains that the PiS government threatened to fine a television station for unflattering coverage. But when Wprost was revealing all the scandals, cronyism, and corruption of the previous government, the Civic Platform government had internal security raid the magazine’s offices and try to grab its computers, charged its employees with crimes, and accused them of working with a hostile foreign power to destabilize the government.

    Where was the EU when the previous Polish government was packing the court, violating the separation of powers, rewarding cronies, and attacking the Polish press? Nowhere to be found, of course, because that Polish government was obsequious when it came to Brussels and Germany’s leadership of Europe in particular.”

    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
    @YetAnotherAnon


    the EU’s insistence that Poland should accept an EU-imposed quota of refugees
     
    In short, Poland dares stand in the way of imposing the NWO billionaire totalitarian dystopia that
    became the new aim of the Western Deep State elites in the 1990s.
    , @Lex
    @YetAnotherAnon

    It was also revealed that Civic Platform's leader and PM for 7 years Donald Tusk(currently President of the European Council) was financed by Germany in the 90s in his political endeavours. It was confirmed by his former party colleagues Paweł Piskorski and Andrzej Olechowski.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  61. @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Ed



    Nothing is preventing American or European (((leaders))) from doing the same.

     

    Nothing stopping anyone except laws and men with guns.


    Pim Fortuyn
    ... He called Islam "a backward culture", and was quoted as saying that if it were legally possible, he would close the borders for Muslim immigrants.
    ... On 6 May 2002, at age 54, Fortuyn was assassinated in Hilversum, North Holland, by Volkert van der Graaf.
    ... He was released on parole in May 2014 after serving two thirds of his sentence

     

    Speaking in Berlin, Facebook boss calls Germany’s handling of European refugee crisis ‘inspiring’ and says site must do more to tackle anti-migrant hate speech

    British man arrested over Islamophobic tweet

    Man arrested for Facebook posts about Syrian refugees in Scotland

    German police raid homes over Facebook hate speech

    The founder of Germany’s far-right, anti-Islam Pegida movement goes on trial ... on hate speech charges after he called refugees “cattle” and “trash” in a Facebook post

    ADL Joins Court Challenge Against Trump’s Muslim Ban

    ADL's Role in Fighting Anti-Muslim Bigotry

    Local Law Enforcement Chiefs Return from Elite ADL Training in Israel.

    Replies: @Ed

    The French chopped the head off of a king. Fidel landed on Cuba with what a dozen men or so.

    Belgium recently deported about 10 or so migrants to Sudan. For some reason these deportees were abused in the Sudan. Now Belgium has not only halted further deportations to Sudan but is making arrangements to bring the ones they deported back.

    No one is forcing this level of stupidity. The British people voted to leave the EU in large part because of immigration. It maybe too late but they are trying.

    • Replies: @IHTG
    @Ed

    Yup.

    No Jew forces Lindsey Graham to love immigration. Nor John McCain, nor Jeff Flake, nor Thom Tillis. Trump is president, they've been presented with a viable option, and they're rejecting it.

    It's you, whitey. You were the bad guy all along.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @J.Ross
    @Ed

    No one is asking for this "stupidity" either, and Theresa May's government is doing everything it can to "accidentally" fumble Brexit. The fact that your examples are massively bloody revolutions should bother you more than it should convince anyone else.

  62. @Ed
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    The French chopped the head off of a king. Fidel landed on Cuba with what a dozen men or so.

    Belgium recently deported about 10 or so migrants to Sudan. For some reason these deportees were abused in the Sudan. Now Belgium has not only halted further deportations to Sudan but is making arrangements to bring the ones they deported back.

    No one is forcing this level of stupidity. The British people voted to leave the EU in large part because of immigration. It maybe too late but they are trying.

    Replies: @IHTG, @J.Ross

    Yup.

    No Jew forces Lindsey Graham to love immigration. Nor John McCain, nor Jeff Flake, nor Thom Tillis. Trump is president, they’ve been presented with a viable option, and they’re rejecting it.

    It’s you, whitey. You were the bad guy all along.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @IHTG


    No Jew forces Lindsey Graham to love immigration. Nor John McCain, nor Jeff Flake, nor Thom Tillis. Trump is president, they’ve been presented with a viable option, and they’re rejecting it.
     
    Perhaps not, but they induce many candidates to love immigration through campaign donations.

    And, actually, when it comes to Lindsey Graham, I don't think that blackmail can be ruled out.
  63. @Dmitry
    @Maj. Kong

    No it's not. This story (about the 40,000 illegal immigrants in Israel, who have not deported for many years) has been covered endlessly over the years.

    By the way, the Israeli government is paying them to leave (several thousands dollars per person), so this is hardly a great success story.

    It is a story of Israeli incompetence. Tens of thousands of illegal immigrants were allowed to cross the border, were impossible to deport, led to a huge crime and rape wave in certain areas - and finally will cost a fortune to get to return.

    Replies: @silviosilver

    By the way, the Israeli government is paying them to leave (several thousands dollars per person), so this is hardly a great success story.

    Lol, get real. A few thousand dollars is a bargain basement price.

  64. Exactly don’t get the hostility towards Jews on this one. Nothing is preventing American or European leaders from doing the same.

    Well, except for Jewish power. Gobs of money and tons of influence. Dave Gelbaum bribed the Sierra Club with a hundred million dollars.

    Frankly, Ed, this conversation might be too complicated for you to “get.” Maybe Steve should put a box of crayons in the lobby.

    Refugee applications have plummeted nearly 90% in Denmark. They said no more and their leaders executed their plan unapologetically. If Germans want to let in millions of migrants. If Italy wants to tug African boats to their territories that’s on them.

    I dunno about Germany or Denmark or Italy, but here in the USA, if we want to halt or reverse the immigration disaster, we’re gonna have to do it over Jewry’s prostrate (political) corpse.

    Why do you fancy Bret Stephens speaks for my vascular surgeon?

    Would you plz ask your vascular surgeon if white bread on mayo (and, consequently, you as well) is kosher?

    Netanyahu doesn’t want to admit the wrong kind of Jews into Israel, but thinks that America may not ban muslims from entering America.

    Rabbi, why must America take refugees?

    Because America is land of immigrants.

    Rabbi, why doesn’t Israel have to take refugees?

    Why are you antisemitic?

    Here’s a pretty clear statement on borders done by the Prime Minister of the Jewish state. Trump can tweet that sucker out and toss it in the diaspora Jews face when they start their usual “Statue of immigration”, “welcoming”, “borders==hate”, “that’s not who we are” shtick.

    I was thinking the same thing when I read it, in a general sense (i.e., I didn’t think Trump and tweets).

    Not that it’s going to matter, I’ve talked to enough Jewish guys from grad school on that it’s quite easy for them to have a double standard on nationalism issues specifically for Israel. But it’s still some nice ammunition for Trump to use.

    The key is to have the conversation with the Jewish guy LOUDLY, in front of lots and lots of GOYIM. Then the Jew can go on about his business, unmoved by regard for anyone but Jews, as usual, and still have served our purposes.

    The New York Times spends every week obsessively criticizing Israel. Have you never read the New York Times.

    Nonsense.

    The left is disproportionately powerful in Israel.

    No it isn’t. The left in Israel is actually curiously shriveled and powerless, in the proper context (i.e., the context of global Jewry being very left wing, pro-immigration, anti-borders, etc.). Don’t pretend the Jewish majority doesn’t live in the diaspora. And don’t pretend that isn’t where the vast majority of Jewish political and financial power resides.

    Mister Roissy, over at Chateau Heartiste —not known for luv luv luvvin’ dem Jooooos— posted an exit poll from the 2016 general that showed 58.8% of married, penilo-American, self-identified Jooooos having voted for Trump. Wow! If this is a valid survey, maybe it’s time to back off a bit on the “Die Juden sind unser Ungluck!” crapola. But then again, Roissy himself sure hasn’t backed off.

    If we 1. trusted the data and 2. could deport all the Jews who don’t share all of those qualifiers, sure. Truth is exit polls say Jews voted 72% for Hillary and 75% against Trump.

  65. No one is forcing this level of stupidity. The British people voted to leave the EU in large part because of immigration. It maybe too late but they are trying.

    Jews use massive carrots and sticks to force this level of compliance with their wishes. Reconstructing this tendentiously to “no one is literally forcing” doesn’t make Jewish influence any less real, or any less malignant.

  66. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Anonymous

    Remarkably sensible piece in NRO

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455040/eurocrat-attacks-anti-pluralist-polish-government-hypocritical


    "One of the great points of recent contention is the EU’s insistence that Poland should accept an EU-imposed quota of refugees to ease the burden on Italy and other nations. Poland points out that by doing so, it would be breaking rules set by the EU itself. Angela Merkel’s great 2015 invitation to over a million migrants and refugees and the actions of several other European governments during the migration crisis violated the Dublin accords that member states had signed on to...

    But the act that precipitated the EU’s Article Seven proceedings was the elected Polish government’s attempt to reform the country’s judiciary. Previously, the Polish judiciary was run like a medieval guild, with judges nominating their own successors. On occasion, the sons of existing judges would get preferential treatment over qualified law professors. Judges protected one another from lawsuits and pay freezes, like members of a self-governing union. Having run their campaign promising to do the unfinished work of the 1990s in reforming Poland’s judiciary, the ruling Law and Justice party (PiS) has been passing aggressive reforms that bring more democratic checks on the judiciary and retiring some judges, on the theory that the judiciary never went through a post-Communist lustration.

    But what was the state of play before PiS came to power? Applebaum charges that PiS appointments to the Constitutional Tribunal were “illegal.” In fact, it was the previous government of Poland that committed the first overreach. Anticipating its coming electoral defeat, the Civic Platform party tried packing the Constitutional Tribunal with five new judges ahead of the elections. Several of its appointments were deemed illegal, and others certainly went against precedent.

    Was Civic Platform a model of restraint when it came to the separation of powers? No. In fact, it was partly brought down in the Polish public’s esteem when its interior minister, Bartłomiej Sienkiewicz, was caught discussing with its central bank minister, Marek Belka, how Poland’s monetary policy could be manipulated to boost Civic Platform in the polls ahead of elections.

    What about the media? Applebaum complains that the PiS government threatened to fine a television station for unflattering coverage. But when Wprost was revealing all the scandals, cronyism, and corruption of the previous government, the Civic Platform government had internal security raid the magazine’s offices and try to grab its computers, charged its employees with crimes, and accused them of working with a hostile foreign power to destabilize the government.

    Where was the EU when the previous Polish government was packing the court, violating the separation of powers, rewarding cronies, and attacking the Polish press? Nowhere to be found, of course, because that Polish government was obsequious when it came to Brussels and Germany’s leadership of Europe in particular."
     

    Replies: @Eagle Eye, @Lex

    the EU’s insistence that Poland should accept an EU-imposed quota of refugees

    In short, Poland dares stand in the way of imposing the NWO billionaire totalitarian dystopia that
    became the new aim of the Western Deep State elites in the 1990s.

  67. @Ed
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    The French chopped the head off of a king. Fidel landed on Cuba with what a dozen men or so.

    Belgium recently deported about 10 or so migrants to Sudan. For some reason these deportees were abused in the Sudan. Now Belgium has not only halted further deportations to Sudan but is making arrangements to bring the ones they deported back.

    No one is forcing this level of stupidity. The British people voted to leave the EU in large part because of immigration. It maybe too late but they are trying.

    Replies: @IHTG, @J.Ross

    No one is asking for this “stupidity” either, and Theresa May’s government is doing everything it can to “accidentally” fumble Brexit. The fact that your examples are massively bloody revolutions should bother you more than it should convince anyone else.

  68. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Yup.

    No Jew forces Lindsey Graham to love immigration. Nor John McCain, nor Jeff Flake, nor Thom Tillis. Trump is president, they’ve been presented with a viable option, and they’re rejecting it.

    It’s you, whitey. You were the bad guy all along.

    Jews are completely innocent, and they always will be. We know.

    Jews give Graham the carrots (bribes, PR, networking) and sticks (threats) as much as anyone. And McCain, and Flake, and Tillis…

  69. @Art Deco
    @Maj. Kong

    The press blackout is the real story here. Their cousins in the diaspora don’t want us imitating these moves.

    Why do you fancy Bret Stephens speaks for my vascular surgeon?

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Mr. Anon

    Why do you fancy Bret Stephens speaks for my vascular surgeon?

    So, what does your vascular surgeon think about immigration? Have you asked him? Jews vote Democratic at a rate of about 70%. And even most Republican Jews seem to be pretty soft on immigration. When 70% of a group votes for the party that promises ever increasing immigration, one may reasonably conclude that that group tends to support ever increasing immigration.

    Unchallenged spokesmen may become spokesmen, by default.

    You, however, are not a spokesman. You are a prating nobody, and nobody wants to listen to you.

  70. @IHTG
    @Ed

    Yup.

    No Jew forces Lindsey Graham to love immigration. Nor John McCain, nor Jeff Flake, nor Thom Tillis. Trump is president, they've been presented with a viable option, and they're rejecting it.

    It's you, whitey. You were the bad guy all along.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    No Jew forces Lindsey Graham to love immigration. Nor John McCain, nor Jeff Flake, nor Thom Tillis. Trump is president, they’ve been presented with a viable option, and they’re rejecting it.

    Perhaps not, but they induce many candidates to love immigration through campaign donations.

    And, actually, when it comes to Lindsey Graham, I don’t think that blackmail can be ruled out.

  71. @Eagle Eye
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Linked piece in The Hill does NOT bear out the screaming headline.

    Netanyahu's statement was anodyne boilerplate and never mentioned U.S. immigration policies:


    The state of Israel respects all religion and strictly adheres to the rights of all its citizens.
     
    As the Prime Minister of a country with a significant proportion of Muslim citizens (in Israel proper, not West Bank/Gaza), Netanyahu could hardly say anything else.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Netanyahu’s statement was anodyne boilerplate and never mentioned U.S. immigration policies:

    No, Read his statement. He said he “rejected” Trump’s proposal. What business does the PM of Israel have rejecting a domestic policy proposal put forth by an American presidential candidate? What business does he have voicing an opinion on it at all?

    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
    @Mr. Anon

    You LIE.

    The Hill's statement claiming that Netanyahu "rejected" Trump's policies is an intentional MISREPRESENTATION of what Nethanyahu's ACTUALLY said.

    In other words, The Hill is once again caught in its "abandoned prostitution to falsehood," in Thomas Jefferson's phrase.

    Netanyahu has absolutely no reason to criticize Trump, and many reasons not to. As I pointed out, writing slowly so you can follow, is that Netanyahu put out a typical anodyne political statement to get past the issue:


    The state of Israel respects all religion and strictly adheres to the rights of all its citizens.
     
    So far, so boring.

    Only a paid troll could claim to believe that Netanyahu had criticized Trump when to do so would be not only against Israel's interests but also psychologically bizarre. There is no earthly reason why Netanyahu would criticize the U.S. over a matter that does not directly concern Israel.

    Again, you swallowed The Hill's lie whole. Hope you like the taste.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon

    , @Eagle Eye
    @Mr. Anon


    No, Read his statement. He said he “rejected” Trump’s proposal.
     
    Not "his [Netanyahu's] statement" but The Hill's lie.

    The Hill lied to its readers (surprise, surprise, narrative maintenance and development now being the real business of most media outlets).

    You are intentionally reiterating The Hill's lie after having been alerted to it.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  72. How come the US can’t have a President who talks like that in cabinet meetings and actually acts on his rhetoric? By acting on his policies, illegals then get the memo that the nation’s leader means what he says.

  73. I think it is from one of your posts I learned of the concept of bringing in immigrants to oppress your own citizens such as in Bahrain where the Sunni minority gives citizenship to Sunni immigrants from Pakistan to control the local Shiite majority.

    It seems the Tutsis of Rwanda have the same idea and figured they need help against the Hutus majority by bringing in their ancient cousins from East Africa-Sudan and Eritrea.

  74. Eagle Eye says:
    @Mr. Anon
    @Eagle Eye


    Netanyahu’s statement was anodyne boilerplate and never mentioned U.S. immigration policies:
     
    No, Read his statement. He said he "rejected" Trump's proposal. What business does the PM of Israel have rejecting a domestic policy proposal put forth by an American presidential candidate? What business does he have voicing an opinion on it at all?

    Replies: @Eagle Eye, @Eagle Eye

    You LIE.

    The Hill’s statement claiming that Netanyahu “rejected” Trump’s policies is an intentional MISREPRESENTATION of what Nethanyahu’s ACTUALLY said.

    In other words, The Hill is once again caught in its “abandoned prostitution to falsehood,” in Thomas Jefferson’s phrase.

    Netanyahu has absolutely no reason to criticize Trump, and many reasons not to. As I pointed out, writing slowly so you can follow, is that Netanyahu put out a typical anodyne political statement to get past the issue:

    The state of Israel respects all religion and strictly adheres to the rights of all its citizens.

    So far, so boring.

    Only a paid troll could claim to believe that Netanyahu had criticized Trump when to do so would be not only against Israel’s interests but also psychologically bizarre. There is no earthly reason why Netanyahu would criticize the U.S. over a matter that does not directly concern Israel.

    Again, you swallowed The Hill’s lie whole. Hope you like the taste.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Eagle Eye


    You LIE.

    The Hill’s statement claiming that Netanyahu “rejected” Trump’s policies is an intentional MISREPRESENTATION of what Nethanyahu’s ACTUALLY said.
     

    No, liar, I did not lie.

    According to the Times of Israel:


    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office on Wednesday evening issued a statement saying the prime minister “rejects Donald Trump’s recent remarks about Muslims,” but will still meet with him as scheduled later this month.
     
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-rejects-trumps-comments-on-muslims-but-will-still-meet-him/

    Replies: @Eagle Eye

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Eagle Eye


    Only a paid troll could claim to believe that Netanyahu had criticized Trump when to do so would be not only against Israel’s interests but also psychologically bizarre. There is no earthly reason why Netanyahu would criticize the U.S. over a matter that does not directly concern Israel.
     
    Or somebody who pays attention to the news. Trump clearly DID criticize Trump.

    Based on your extensive misrepresentation of my post and others, I can only conclude that you are not only a liar, but a stupid liar.

    Replies: @Eagle Eye

  75. @Mr. Anon
    @Eagle Eye


    Netanyahu’s statement was anodyne boilerplate and never mentioned U.S. immigration policies:
     
    No, Read his statement. He said he "rejected" Trump's proposal. What business does the PM of Israel have rejecting a domestic policy proposal put forth by an American presidential candidate? What business does he have voicing an opinion on it at all?

    Replies: @Eagle Eye, @Eagle Eye

    No, Read his statement. He said he “rejected” Trump’s proposal.

    Not “his [Netanyahu’s] statement” but The Hill’s lie.

    The Hill lied to its readers (surprise, surprise, narrative maintenance and development now being the real business of most media outlets).

    You are intentionally reiterating The Hill’s lie after having been alerted to it.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Eagle Eye

    You are intentionally reiterating your first lie.

    Liar.

  76. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Anonymous

    Remarkably sensible piece in NRO

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455040/eurocrat-attacks-anti-pluralist-polish-government-hypocritical


    "One of the great points of recent contention is the EU’s insistence that Poland should accept an EU-imposed quota of refugees to ease the burden on Italy and other nations. Poland points out that by doing so, it would be breaking rules set by the EU itself. Angela Merkel’s great 2015 invitation to over a million migrants and refugees and the actions of several other European governments during the migration crisis violated the Dublin accords that member states had signed on to...

    But the act that precipitated the EU’s Article Seven proceedings was the elected Polish government’s attempt to reform the country’s judiciary. Previously, the Polish judiciary was run like a medieval guild, with judges nominating their own successors. On occasion, the sons of existing judges would get preferential treatment over qualified law professors. Judges protected one another from lawsuits and pay freezes, like members of a self-governing union. Having run their campaign promising to do the unfinished work of the 1990s in reforming Poland’s judiciary, the ruling Law and Justice party (PiS) has been passing aggressive reforms that bring more democratic checks on the judiciary and retiring some judges, on the theory that the judiciary never went through a post-Communist lustration.

    But what was the state of play before PiS came to power? Applebaum charges that PiS appointments to the Constitutional Tribunal were “illegal.” In fact, it was the previous government of Poland that committed the first overreach. Anticipating its coming electoral defeat, the Civic Platform party tried packing the Constitutional Tribunal with five new judges ahead of the elections. Several of its appointments were deemed illegal, and others certainly went against precedent.

    Was Civic Platform a model of restraint when it came to the separation of powers? No. In fact, it was partly brought down in the Polish public’s esteem when its interior minister, Bartłomiej Sienkiewicz, was caught discussing with its central bank minister, Marek Belka, how Poland’s monetary policy could be manipulated to boost Civic Platform in the polls ahead of elections.

    What about the media? Applebaum complains that the PiS government threatened to fine a television station for unflattering coverage. But when Wprost was revealing all the scandals, cronyism, and corruption of the previous government, the Civic Platform government had internal security raid the magazine’s offices and try to grab its computers, charged its employees with crimes, and accused them of working with a hostile foreign power to destabilize the government.

    Where was the EU when the previous Polish government was packing the court, violating the separation of powers, rewarding cronies, and attacking the Polish press? Nowhere to be found, of course, because that Polish government was obsequious when it came to Brussels and Germany’s leadership of Europe in particular."
     

    Replies: @Eagle Eye, @Lex

    It was also revealed that Civic Platform’s leader and PM for 7 years Donald Tusk(currently President of the European Council) was financed by Germany in the 90s in his political endeavours. It was confirmed by his former party colleagues Paweł Piskorski and Andrzej Olechowski.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Lex

    What a completely unforeseeable surprise. Now we can have more pearl-clutching about how Law and Justice is "violating the constitution" in trying to clean up Civic Platform's violations, which are largely unreported in the West.

  77. @Eagle Eye
    @Mr. Anon

    You LIE.

    The Hill's statement claiming that Netanyahu "rejected" Trump's policies is an intentional MISREPRESENTATION of what Nethanyahu's ACTUALLY said.

    In other words, The Hill is once again caught in its "abandoned prostitution to falsehood," in Thomas Jefferson's phrase.

    Netanyahu has absolutely no reason to criticize Trump, and many reasons not to. As I pointed out, writing slowly so you can follow, is that Netanyahu put out a typical anodyne political statement to get past the issue:


    The state of Israel respects all religion and strictly adheres to the rights of all its citizens.
     
    So far, so boring.

    Only a paid troll could claim to believe that Netanyahu had criticized Trump when to do so would be not only against Israel's interests but also psychologically bizarre. There is no earthly reason why Netanyahu would criticize the U.S. over a matter that does not directly concern Israel.

    Again, you swallowed The Hill's lie whole. Hope you like the taste.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon

    You LIE.

    The Hill’s statement claiming that Netanyahu “rejected” Trump’s policies is an intentional MISREPRESENTATION of what Nethanyahu’s ACTUALLY said.

    No, liar, I did not lie.

    According to the Times of Israel:

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office on Wednesday evening issued a statement saying the prime minister “rejects Donald Trump’s recent remarks about Muslims,” but will still meet with him as scheduled later this month.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-rejects-trumps-comments-on-muslims-but-will-still-meet-him/

    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
    @Mr. Anon

    Again, contrary to your claims, the Times of Israel piece nowhere says that Netanyahu criticized Trump's policies.

    Indeed, the same piece cites an Israeli MK (Member of the Knesset) who criticized Netanyahu's de facto endorsement of President Trump's policy (as she sees it):




    The petition was initiated by Meretz MK Michal Rozin.

    Rozin said she was seeking to “publicly condemn Trump’s racist remarks and to cancel the planned meeting [with Netanyahu] before he regrets his comments.”

    “While leaders around the world are condemning the racist and outrageous remarks by the Republican presidential candidate, Netanyahu embraces him warmly,” she lamented.

    “Their meeting at the end of the month lends support to [Trump’s] racist comments, and in this disgraces the democratic character of the State of Israel and hurts its Muslim citizens,” Rozin wrote.
     

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  78. @Eagle Eye
    @Mr. Anon


    No, Read his statement. He said he “rejected” Trump’s proposal.
     
    Not "his [Netanyahu's] statement" but The Hill's lie.

    The Hill lied to its readers (surprise, surprise, narrative maintenance and development now being the real business of most media outlets).

    You are intentionally reiterating The Hill's lie after having been alerted to it.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    You are intentionally reiterating your first lie.

    Liar.

  79. @Eagle Eye
    @Mr. Anon

    You LIE.

    The Hill's statement claiming that Netanyahu "rejected" Trump's policies is an intentional MISREPRESENTATION of what Nethanyahu's ACTUALLY said.

    In other words, The Hill is once again caught in its "abandoned prostitution to falsehood," in Thomas Jefferson's phrase.

    Netanyahu has absolutely no reason to criticize Trump, and many reasons not to. As I pointed out, writing slowly so you can follow, is that Netanyahu put out a typical anodyne political statement to get past the issue:


    The state of Israel respects all religion and strictly adheres to the rights of all its citizens.
     
    So far, so boring.

    Only a paid troll could claim to believe that Netanyahu had criticized Trump when to do so would be not only against Israel's interests but also psychologically bizarre. There is no earthly reason why Netanyahu would criticize the U.S. over a matter that does not directly concern Israel.

    Again, you swallowed The Hill's lie whole. Hope you like the taste.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon

    Only a paid troll could claim to believe that Netanyahu had criticized Trump when to do so would be not only against Israel’s interests but also psychologically bizarre. There is no earthly reason why Netanyahu would criticize the U.S. over a matter that does not directly concern Israel.

    Or somebody who pays attention to the news. Trump clearly DID criticize Trump.

    Based on your extensive misrepresentation of my post and others, I can only conclude that you are not only a liar, but a stupid liar.

    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
    @Mr. Anon


    Trump clearly DID criticize Trump.
     
    Public self-criticism had not heretofore been known as a customary habits of our Commander-in-Chief.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  80. @Peter Johnson
    @Dmitry

    The New York Times criticizes Israel every week? I read it every day. The New York Times has at least 100 articles implicitly or explicitly pushing free borders on European countries and the USA per one article meekly criticizing Israel, using their indoors voice. Netanyahu's statement will not be considered "fit to print" since it does not fit the New York Times narrative, and will not appear at all. If a European or USA political figure had uttered the exact same words, it would be on the front page for a month, every day, with the New York Times calling the speaker a hateful madman and characterizing him as the living embodiment of everything evil.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    New York Times has got a very strong anti-Israel agenda, which can be seen by anyone with any objectivity. They don’t much like Israel, and they go out of their way to discredit it, subtly or otherwise.

    http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=35

    As for Israel’s illegal immigration woes.

    The illegal immigrants came to Israel up to a decade ago as illegal, economic migrants. They create a crime and rape-wave in the areas they settled. The Israeli government was unable to deport a single one, due to the blockage in the Supreme Court (meanwhile the EU deports 70% of their illegal immigrants).

    There is now the immediate possibly that 10,000 of them (out of 40,000), will leave to Rwanda (being paid several thousand dollars each for the privilege), which we will believe when we see it. Netanyahu has made various promises over the years on this situation, but the only one he has implemented was the construction of the fence on the border with Egypt.

  81. @Lex
    @YetAnotherAnon

    It was also revealed that Civic Platform's leader and PM for 7 years Donald Tusk(currently President of the European Council) was financed by Germany in the 90s in his political endeavours. It was confirmed by his former party colleagues Paweł Piskorski and Andrzej Olechowski.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    What a completely unforeseeable surprise. Now we can have more pearl-clutching about how Law and Justice is “violating the constitution” in trying to clean up Civic Platform’s violations, which are largely unreported in the West.

  82. Eagle Eye says:
    @Mr. Anon
    @Eagle Eye


    You LIE.

    The Hill’s statement claiming that Netanyahu “rejected” Trump’s policies is an intentional MISREPRESENTATION of what Nethanyahu’s ACTUALLY said.
     

    No, liar, I did not lie.

    According to the Times of Israel:


    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office on Wednesday evening issued a statement saying the prime minister “rejects Donald Trump’s recent remarks about Muslims,” but will still meet with him as scheduled later this month.
     
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-rejects-trumps-comments-on-muslims-but-will-still-meet-him/

    Replies: @Eagle Eye

    Again, contrary to your claims, the Times of Israel piece nowhere says that Netanyahu criticized Trump’s policies.

    Indeed, the same piece cites an Israeli MK (Member of the Knesset) who criticized Netanyahu’s de facto endorsement of President Trump’s policy (as she sees it):

    The petition was initiated by Meretz MK Michal Rozin.

    Rozin said she was seeking to “publicly condemn Trump’s racist remarks and to cancel the planned meeting [with Netanyahu] before he regrets his comments.”

    “While leaders around the world are condemning the racist and outrageous remarks by the Republican presidential candidate, Netanyahu embraces him warmly,” she lamented.

    “Their meeting at the end of the month lends support to [Trump’s] racist comments, and in this disgraces the democratic character of the State of Israel and hurts its Muslim citizens,” Rozin wrote.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Eagle Eye


    Again, contrary to your claims, the Times of Israel piece nowhere says that Netanyahu criticized Trump’s policies.
     
    You are lying. It said that Netanyahu rejected Trump's proposal to ban muslims.

    What the F**k do you think "rejected" means? Is not rejecting a policy a form of criticizing it?

    Liar.

  83. @Mr. Anon
    @Eagle Eye


    Only a paid troll could claim to believe that Netanyahu had criticized Trump when to do so would be not only against Israel’s interests but also psychologically bizarre. There is no earthly reason why Netanyahu would criticize the U.S. over a matter that does not directly concern Israel.
     
    Or somebody who pays attention to the news. Trump clearly DID criticize Trump.

    Based on your extensive misrepresentation of my post and others, I can only conclude that you are not only a liar, but a stupid liar.

    Replies: @Eagle Eye

    Trump clearly DID criticize Trump.

    Public self-criticism had not heretofore been known as a customary habits of our Commander-in-Chief.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Eagle Eye

    Typo. I meant Netanyahu clearly criticized Trump. Which he did.

    Liar.

  84. I guess that the rating of the New York Times as anti-Israel or pro-Israel is subjective. The New York Times is very easy on Israel compared to how the paper treats North American or European politicians/governments when they suggest imposing protected borders and control of illegal immigration. Israel has actually implemented strict, successful border controls, which are virtually unknown these days throughout Europe and North America (with perhaps a few minor exceptions like Hungary). I only wish that the New York Times would report on Farage, Le Pen and Wilders with the same softly-softly criticism it applies to Israeli politicians in government, who have succeeded in applying their same political philosophy.

    Israel is a beacon of hope in terms of immigration control. Meanwhile, many Jews in Europe and North American are notable among the bad guys, working to destroy those countries through uncontrolled immigration.

  85. @Stephen Marle II
    Illegal aliens in the United States on January 20, 2017: 12 million.

    Illegal aliens in the United States today: 12 million.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @istevefan, @Buck Turgidson

    I am going with 35-40 million

  86. New York Times has got a very strong anti-Israel agenda, which can be seen by anyone with any objectivity. They don’t much like Israel, and they go out of their way to discredit it, subtly or otherwise.

    Nonsense. Jews’ complaining about American media is always princess and the pea stuff. Jews’ frequent claims along these lines are good for sussing out just how spoiled and blinkered they are, though.

  87. @Eagle Eye
    @Mr. Anon


    Trump clearly DID criticize Trump.
     
    Public self-criticism had not heretofore been known as a customary habits of our Commander-in-Chief.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Typo. I meant Netanyahu clearly criticized Trump. Which he did.

    Liar.

  88. @Eagle Eye
    @Mr. Anon

    Again, contrary to your claims, the Times of Israel piece nowhere says that Netanyahu criticized Trump's policies.

    Indeed, the same piece cites an Israeli MK (Member of the Knesset) who criticized Netanyahu's de facto endorsement of President Trump's policy (as she sees it):




    The petition was initiated by Meretz MK Michal Rozin.

    Rozin said she was seeking to “publicly condemn Trump’s racist remarks and to cancel the planned meeting [with Netanyahu] before he regrets his comments.”

    “While leaders around the world are condemning the racist and outrageous remarks by the Republican presidential candidate, Netanyahu embraces him warmly,” she lamented.

    “Their meeting at the end of the month lends support to [Trump’s] racist comments, and in this disgraces the democratic character of the State of Israel and hurts its Muslim citizens,” Rozin wrote.
     

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Again, contrary to your claims, the Times of Israel piece nowhere says that Netanyahu criticized Trump’s policies.

    You are lying. It said that Netanyahu rejected Trump’s proposal to ban muslims.

    What the F**k do you think “rejected” means? Is not rejecting a policy a form of criticizing it?

    Liar.

  89. When intelligent, rational people open their minds to human biodiversity, it gives a fruitful perspective on a whole range of social phenomena. Why should Jews of all people be so keen on open borders, potentially destroying the quality of life in the western societies in which they (and their children) live? How do they square that with their unshakeable support for Israel, one of the few examples of a mostly-western society with extremely strong border controls and a powerful nationalist movement in control of the popular media and government? Is there an HBD explanation for this odd and logically inconsistent behaviour? Will it change if the popular consensus gets to grip with the hypocrisy of the mainstream Jewish approach? It is destructive to western societies, except Israel, which is hypocritically allowed to be exempt.

  90. Peter, on the chance that your question isn’t rhetorical: because it’s good for the Jews, AKA, Jewish Supremacy. The two different strategies (diaspora, Israel) are both offshoots of a single strategy; advance the interests of the Jewish people. Different theaters, different strategies.

    • Replies: @Peter Johnson
    @Svigor

    I still do not completely understand why mainstream Jews see open borders as in the Jewish interest. Take an upper middle class European (French, British, etc.) or American Jewish family. The family has no interest in emigrating to Israel. Why do they see open borders as a Jewish interest? Seems odd to me. Closed borders for Israel is absolutely logical, but contrarily open borders for the US and western Europe? Could Jews be persuaded to back off from pushing so hard for this ridiculous policy? Unless they are low-wage employers, for whom it does raise short-term profits.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dmitry, @Harryslide

  91. @Svigor
    Peter, on the chance that your question isn't rhetorical: because it's good for the Jews, AKA, Jewish Supremacy. The two different strategies (diaspora, Israel) are both offshoots of a single strategy; advance the interests of the Jewish people. Different theaters, different strategies.

    Replies: @Peter Johnson

    I still do not completely understand why mainstream Jews see open borders as in the Jewish interest. Take an upper middle class European (French, British, etc.) or American Jewish family. The family has no interest in emigrating to Israel. Why do they see open borders as a Jewish interest? Seems odd to me. Closed borders for Israel is absolutely logical, but contrarily open borders for the US and western Europe? Could Jews be persuaded to back off from pushing so hard for this ridiculous policy? Unless they are low-wage employers, for whom it does raise short-term profits.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Peter Johnson

    What makes you think border restrictions won't someday be extended from Muslims to Jews? Contrary to the conspiracy theories, Jews don't actually control the U.S. or other Western governments, and if those governments ever become openly anti-Semitic, laws restricting Muslim movements will be quickly applied to Jews as well. No restrictions for anyone is the Jewish interest.

    This logic doesn't apply to Israel for the obvious reason that the Israeli government is run by Jews and therefore will never close its borders to Jews, even as it excludes Muslims and other troublesome gentiles.

    , @Dmitry
    @Peter Johnson

    Because most people don't even think along these lines - except right-wing nationalists.

    , @Harryslide
    @Peter Johnson

    Why do they want open borders? Because they want to adulterate the Euro (white) populations so much that they-whites- can "never again" form a forceful power bloc, which Jews imagine would then redound badly toward themselves, as in Germany 1933-1945. Never mind the death-grip they had on German media, academia, etc.

  92. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Peter Johnson
    @Svigor

    I still do not completely understand why mainstream Jews see open borders as in the Jewish interest. Take an upper middle class European (French, British, etc.) or American Jewish family. The family has no interest in emigrating to Israel. Why do they see open borders as a Jewish interest? Seems odd to me. Closed borders for Israel is absolutely logical, but contrarily open borders for the US and western Europe? Could Jews be persuaded to back off from pushing so hard for this ridiculous policy? Unless they are low-wage employers, for whom it does raise short-term profits.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dmitry, @Harryslide

    What makes you think border restrictions won’t someday be extended from Muslims to Jews? Contrary to the conspiracy theories, Jews don’t actually control the U.S. or other Western governments, and if those governments ever become openly anti-Semitic, laws restricting Muslim movements will be quickly applied to Jews as well. No restrictions for anyone is the Jewish interest.

    This logic doesn’t apply to Israel for the obvious reason that the Israeli government is run by Jews and therefore will never close its borders to Jews, even as it excludes Muslims and other troublesome gentiles.

  93. @Peter Johnson
    @Svigor

    I still do not completely understand why mainstream Jews see open borders as in the Jewish interest. Take an upper middle class European (French, British, etc.) or American Jewish family. The family has no interest in emigrating to Israel. Why do they see open borders as a Jewish interest? Seems odd to me. Closed borders for Israel is absolutely logical, but contrarily open borders for the US and western Europe? Could Jews be persuaded to back off from pushing so hard for this ridiculous policy? Unless they are low-wage employers, for whom it does raise short-term profits.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dmitry, @Harryslide

    Because most people don’t even think along these lines – except right-wing nationalists.

  94. I still do not completely understand why mainstream Jews see open borders as in the Jewish interest. Take an upper middle class European (French, British, etc.) or American Jewish family. The family has no interest in emigrating to Israel. Why do they see open borders as a Jewish interest? Seems odd to me. Closed borders for Israel is absolutely logical, but contrarily open borders for the US and western Europe? Could Jews be persuaded to back off from pushing so hard for this ridiculous policy? Unless they are low-wage employers, for whom it does raise short-term profits.

    I don’t know that they do. Jews pass most of their BS through a ton of filters, so it comes out on the other side looking very different. The trick is to compartmentalize everything to mask the contradictions, and never think critically. E.g., most of their open-borders stuff is masked with “there but for the grace of G-d go I” BS. “We were wanderers in the desert,” “we were refugees from Germany,” bla bla bla. Then when they touch down in Tel Aviv there’s a whole new set of culturally-conditioned filters to justify doing the opposite and keeping Israel’s Jewish character. The key, again, is not to do self-review; spend that time looking outward at the imagined goyische boogeymen. Oh, and people who are critical of the Jews? Anti-semites. The rationalization hamster is spinning 24/7; one is reminded of the saying about how a man who profits from not noticing tends not to notice – I doubt he often thinks about how steadfast he is in his not noticing.

    But yes, it’s odd to people constitutionally capable of ethnic self-review.

    • Agree: Peter Johnson
  95. even as it excludes Muslims and other troublesome gentiles.

    FIFY.

    Because most people don’t even think along these lines – except right-wing nationalists.

    We learned it by watching you. We don’t have the advantage of having an entire culture of rationalization, so we have to be explicit about it.

  96. UN Human Rights Council now criticising Israel – demanding that some of the illegal immigrants be sent to Europe.
    http://newsru.co.il/israel/09jan2018/israel_un_africa_004.html

  97. @silviosilver

    Now there is another mission. The second mission is to deport the illegal infiltrators who entered Israel prior to the construction of the barrier. This is approximately 60,000 people; we have deported approximately 20,000 and the mission now is to deport the rest. Last year we deported approximately 4,000 and the major effort is to deport most of those who remain, who have infiltrated and are present in Israel illegally. …
     
    "Afterwards, having accomplished that, I propose we take a second look at the Falasha. Was it a mistake bringing them here? Does anyone really think they're Jewish like the rest of us? I mean really?"

    Replies: @Alden

    The Falashas was just a big scam by Israel, AIPAC and the rest of the lobby to gauge more money out of their gullible American Jewish donors and the American taxpayer.

    Rescuing Ethiopian non Jews meant billions in aid for Israel. At one time before the Russian invasion of Afghanistan Jewish publications were breathlessly discovering secret hidden Jews in Afghanistan who needed to be rescued and brought home to their ancient home land.

    That rescuing European Jews from the anti Semitic Muslims means stampeding them and their money and skills to Israel. That was the whole purpose of rescuing Russian Jews, money and skills.

  98. @BenKenobi

    The infiltrators have a clear choice – cooperate with us and leave voluntarily, respectably, humanely and legally, or we will have to use other tools at our disposal, which are also according to law. I hope that they will choose to cooperate with us.
     
    Here's a good template for that "peaceful ethnic cleansing."

    Replies: @Alden

    Didn’t Hitler say that about Jews?

    • Agree: BenKenobi
  99. @Peter Johnson
    @Svigor

    I still do not completely understand why mainstream Jews see open borders as in the Jewish interest. Take an upper middle class European (French, British, etc.) or American Jewish family. The family has no interest in emigrating to Israel. Why do they see open borders as a Jewish interest? Seems odd to me. Closed borders for Israel is absolutely logical, but contrarily open borders for the US and western Europe? Could Jews be persuaded to back off from pushing so hard for this ridiculous policy? Unless they are low-wage employers, for whom it does raise short-term profits.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dmitry, @Harryslide

    Why do they want open borders? Because they want to adulterate the Euro (white) populations so much that they-whites- can “never again” form a forceful power bloc, which Jews imagine would then redound badly toward themselves, as in Germany 1933-1945. Never mind the death-grip they had on German media, academia, etc.

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