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From the NBC News opinion section:

Is Arizona’s Kyrsten Sinema bad for bisexual Americans?

Bisexual women are constantly told we’re untrustworthy, that our attraction to multiple genders means we’re more likely to cheat.

Oct. 26, 2021, 11:17 AM PDT

By Lux Alptraum

Lux Alptraum is Planetary Geologist for Arrakis by appointment of the Padishah Emperor.

No, just kidding:

By Lux Alptraum, author, “Faking It: The Lies Women Tell About Sex — And the Truths They Reveal”

It wasn’t that long ago that embattled Arizona [moderate Democrat] Sen. Kyrsten Sinema was hailed as a triumph of bisexual representation. After she was sworn in in January 2019, Out celebrated the first openly bisexual senator as a “rebuke to Trumpism,” positioning the “sassy lawmaker” in opposition to homophobic then-Vice President Mike Pence.

But just a few years into her tenure, public opinion has soured on Sinema. Instead of a brash, bisexual icon willing and able to stand up to the far right, she’s now seen as an unreliable centrist, a self-absorbed Democratic turncoat more fixated on getting attention and lining her own pockets than uplifting her community. No longer a bi icon, she’s now held up as a cautionary tale about the limits of representation.

As a bisexual woman — and one who, like Sinema, is white and cisgender — I now cringe every time the senator makes the headlines. Whether it’s fashion columnists dissecting her showy personal style, cartoonists mocking her as a “manic pixie dream senator” or the seemingly endless analyses of her inscrutability, Sinema seems to embody many of the nasty assumptions about bi women I’ve worked my whole life to avoid.

Bi women are constantly told we’re untrustworthy, that our attraction to multiple genders means we’re more likely to cheat. We’re called greedy for finding more than one gender attractive, “confusing” for liking more than one gender and self-absorbed because apparently our brains are unable to think about much beyond our own sexual gratification. Within the LGBTQ community, bisexuals can be viewed as fair-weather members at best — likely to bail the second we stop having fun. Media outlets might not be talking about Sinema’s sex life, but her political reputation as greedy, unreliable and attention-seeking echoes many of the stereotypes my community has been dealing with for years.

“Is she bad for the bisexuals?” I find myself wondering on a nearly daily basis. It feels uncharitable to put so much responsibility on one woman’s shoulders. Yet given that she’s arguably the most prominent bisexual woman in the nation, it feels fair to wish she’d put a little more effort into being a bit less of a stereotype.

At the same time, I find myself wondering why Sinema’s sexuality matters so much to me in the first place. What does “bisexual representation” actually mean in this instance?

One obvious answer is that bisexuals have a unique perspective that should ideally be helpful when crafting legislation. There’s no question that bisexuals face our own particular challenges when it comes to topics like sexual health, mental health and abuse and assault.

… Research has shown that bi people, particularly bi women, are at an elevated risk for depression, anxiety, substance use and suicide;

In general, countless social science studies have found that bis are bad news.

yet mental health resources are rarely targeted specifically to the bi community. Bi women are also at an elevated risk of abuse and assault: 2010 data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that over 60 percent of bisexual women reported experience with rape, intimate partner violence or stalking, compared to over 43 percent of lesbians and 35 percent of straight women.

Interesting how lesbians are violently victimized by women at a higher rate than straight women are violently victimized by men.

Bisexual women are also extremely vulnerable to poverty: A 2019 report showed nearly 30 percent of the community living below the poverty line — a rate matched only by the percentage of transgender people of all sexual orientations living in poverty.

It’s almost as bisexual women tend to be too sluttish and focused on their short term pleasures to defer gratification.

In theory, electing more bisexuals will lead to better legislation that more thoughtfully addresses bisexual-specific concerns, making sure bisexuals don’t fall through the cracks of public health, anti-violence and anti-poverty initiatives.

 
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  1. Bisexual women are constantly told we’re untrustworthy

    Constantly being the word of choice for females online who are retailing a story they pretty much made up. Good to see it’s spread to the MSM.

    Mind you, the perfidy of lesbians is a matter of some notoriety and I do not dispute that. But they’re constantly being told? Nope, just more perfidy.

    • Replies: @G. Poulin
    @Charon

    They're constantly being told that by the little voice inside their heads that tells them when they are being bad. We used to call it a "conscience".

    , @Alfa158
    @Charon

    I also think that’s untrue, but bisexual women are telling the truth about straight people constantly wanting to touch their hair. They find it quite exhausting.

    , @Jmaie
    @Charon


    Mind you, the perfidy of lesbians is a matter of some notoriety
     
    Hadn't heard this before (and it's not true for the lesbians I now personally). As the joke goes:

    Q: What do lesbians do on their second date
    A: House hunting

    Replies: @Corn

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Charon

    "the perfidy of lesbians is a matter of some notoriety"

    Certainly true of the Lipsticks who read the room and shape-shift accordingly.

  2. Alptraum means nightmare in German.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @M. Person


    Alptraum means nightmare in German.
     
    Yes. She's Light Nightmare.



    https://iwt.sfo2.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/cbr-covers/1021cd5f87bc8b4c0820a3c5a86dbef4_l.jpg
    , @HammerJack
    @M. Person

    On the bright side, her parents had the wit to name her after this legend

    https://sheamagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/lux-interior.jpg

    , @The Alarmist
    @M. Person

    Sure, the Duden now accepts it, but I still go with Albtraum.

    , @Truth
    @M. Person

    Well...

    https://media.self.com/photos/5938203ba1a5704e51685ec6/1:1/w_700%2Cc_limit/Lux-Alptraum_sq.jpg

  3. Sinema has a Master’s, JD, MBA, and PhD degrees. I wonder if she regards bisexuality as just another credential to adopt along with her other degrees.

    • LOL: New Dealer
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon


    Sinema has a Master’s, JD, MBA, and PhD degrees.
     
    She should go to USC or UCLA film school...



    ...for Sinematography.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @JimDandy
    @Anon

    A Ph.D. in justice studies from Arizona State. I'll bet that thesis is mindblowing.

    Replies: @Barnard

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Anon

    All that alphabet soup, and she's still a moron. She had to be past age 30 before she ever had a real job. Professional students/credentialists seem never to understand that in order to be effective, sooner or later you have to get kicked in the teeth a little by Life. So many leftists spend their time outraged and apoplectic about why the whole country doesn't resemble their pleasant little college town.

    As for legislators, I think the only degree requirement should be the degree from UCLA: the University on the Corner of Lexington Avenue.

    Replies: @Currahee, @fish, @kaganovitch

  4. For men, bisexual women are like poison candy:

    At firs you’re like , “How’s that? OH YEAAH!”

    And then you’re like, “OMG its horrid. Run!”

    As always, sexual degeneracy is a huge signal that the person is bad, bad news.

    • Agree: TWS
    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @R.G. Camara

    Thanks for the heads up. I haven't gotten to the second part yet.

    , @Wilkey
    @R.G. Camara


    At firs you’re like , “How’s that? OH YEAAH!” And then you’re like, “OMG its horrid. Run!”
     
    Yes. There's the fantasy of bisexual women, then there's the reality. Most of them are just crazy, narcissistic, selfish, and indecisive. Those are the kinds of traits that drive men (and women) batty, and that's why they suffer from more physical abuse. They're probably more likely to dish out the abuse, as well.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Corn

  5. iSteve are you going to review this film?

    Becky Hall’s Passing praised to high heaven by Alexandra Kleeman in NYT mag …

    The Secret Toll of Racial Ambiguity

    Rebecca Hall’s new film adaptation of the 1929 novel “Passing” has cracked open a public conversation about colorism and privilege.

    Hall’s film has cracked open a public conversation about colorism, privilege and secrets. On Twitter, people are sharing stories and black-and-white photographs of a grandmother’s cousins who moved out of state, great-aunts who sneaked back to see their family in secret, relatives who lost their jobs when co-workers informed management about their identities: a public airing of what in Hall’s family was once closely held. Recently one of her mother’s sisters reached out: She said that they never really had language to understand the hidden context that shaped their family, and she thanked her for giving it to them.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/20/magazine/rebecca-hall-passing.html

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Jack Armstrong

    Actress Rebecca Hall is the daughter of Sir Peter Hall, the great English stage director, and an African-American opera soprano. The article makes the implausible claim that Rebecca didn't really know her mother was part black when she clearly looked black in photographs.

    Why didn't Hall play one of the sisters who can pass for white in her movie? She personally can pass, so she'd be a natural for a role.

    Replies: @Truth, @gandydancer

    , @R.G. Camara
    @Jack Armstrong

    The "passing" phenomenon is, historically, a lot more secret wish fantasy than reality. Many black girls (especially lighter-skinned ones) dreamed of a Cinderella moment where they would show up at a ball with just the right lighting and dress and makeup and some rich white dude would instantly be smitten with them.

    It's a fantasy that sold a lot of skin whitening cream.

    Some probably had a whole M. Butterfly fantasy where they would hide their color with good makeup, correct tones in colors, and constantly keeping themselves in dark shadows for the rest of their lives.

    Probably a lot of alleged "passers" made up some tall tales to amaze their darker-skinned relatives and friends in the country (and in the black community, lighter-skinned females love to rub their lighter skin in the noses of darker ones) and then scuttled back off to cities where black men could wine them and dine them.

    Replies: @Discordiax, @TWS, @Truth, @gandydancer, @NOTA

    , @Currahee
    @Jack Armstrong

    My god, those smiles are pure Halloween!

    , @Hibernian
    @Jack Armstrong

    An Italian woman, a Hispanic woman, and an Italian man.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @gandydancer

  6. It’s almost as if most stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.

    Personally, I think Sinema is a hoot. Current year America deserves clownish legislators. And she’s, even if inadvertently, doing the country a tiny favor standing ever so slightly athwart the plan to blow another \$5 trillion in fake money out of a cannon.

  7. We did it, guys. We normalized fascism.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Nazi-esque far-right 'Great Replacement Theory'
     
    Fascism = Noticing.

    Good to know.

    Replies: @El Dato

    , @Stephen Paul Foster
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "We did it, guys. We normalized fascism."

    First good news I've heard in months.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @JohnnyWalker123

    My man Mehdi just jealous he never gonna be named "hottest" anything.

    https://i.imgur.com/GXeEvZl.jpeg

    OTOH, Muslim Mehdi has a way of noticing liberal hypocrisy:

    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/charlie-hebdo-free-speech_b_6462584.html


    And why have you been so silent on the glaring double standards? Did you not know that Charlie Hebdo sacked the veteran French cartoonist Maurice Sinet in 2008 for making an allegedly anti-Semitic remark?
     
    Hey Mehdi, submit your unpublishables to the Unz Review. I bet it'll get printed. You were looking for free speech in all the wrong places on the left.
    , @Erik L
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Isn't calling everything you disagree with "lies" kinda fascist or at least fascist adjacent?

    , @Bugg
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "Hasan was born in Swindon, Wiltshire, in South West England, to immigrant Indian Hyderabadi Muslim parents from the city of Hyderabad in Andhra Pradesh, South India.[11][12][13] His father, Raza Hasan, is an engineer."

    DON'T MENTION THE GREAT REPLACEMENT, SAYS A REPLACEMENT.

    , @duncsbaby
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Hey, if Mehdi Hasan is saying that the Great Replacement is a nutty conspiracy theory, that's good enough for me.

  8. ‘Bisexual women are constantly told we’re untrustworthy, that our attraction to multiple genders means we’re more likely to cheat…’

    ? This is the first I’ve heard of this. It’s strikes me as a poor cousin of that weird black hair thing.

    Don’t these people have actual problems to worry about?

    • Agree: El Dato, Joseph Doaks
    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Colin Wright

    I mean, it's true though. Almost by definition bisexuals are more likely to cheat than straight people, if only because there are twice as many potential partners.

    Having said that, I doubt she is constantly being told this.

  9. @R.G. Camara
    For men, bisexual women are like poison candy:

    At firs you're like , "How's that? OH YEAAH!"

    And then you're like, "OMG its horrid. Run!"

    As always, sexual degeneracy is a huge signal that the person is bad, bad news.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Wilkey

    Thanks for the heads up. I haven’t gotten to the second part yet.

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  10. @M. Person
    Alptraum means nightmare in German.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @HammerJack, @The Alarmist, @Truth

    Alptraum means nightmare in German.

    Yes. She’s Light Nightmare.

  11. @Anon
    Sinema has a Master's, JD, MBA, and PhD degrees. I wonder if she regards bisexuality as just another credential to adopt along with her other degrees.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @JimDandy, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Sinema has a Master’s, JD, MBA, and PhD degrees.

    She should go to USC or UCLA film school…

    [MORE]

    …for Sinematography.

    • Thanks: cosMICjester
    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar

    Anybody else here having a problem with the [GROAN] button?

    (Good one, Reg.)

    Replies: @fish

  12. ” it feels fair to wish she’d put a little more effort into being a bit less of a stereotype.”

    I think that about a lot of people.

    The gays and lesbian like to argue that they are “born that way.” What do the bisexuals say?

    • Replies: @Paul Mendez
    @Roger


    The gays and lesbian like to argue that they are “born that way.” What do the bisexuals say?
     
    A lesbian once told me, “You were born straight. I was born gay. I’m OK with that. But bisexuals are just perverts.”

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    , @NOTA
    @Roger

    They're born both ways?

    I knew a bunch of women in college who were biaexual in theory, but most of them ended up married to men in pretty standard marriages. Maybe at maximum-attractiveness-and-horniness age, a wider range of potential partners seemed appealing? Dunno.

    I also have a friend who was in a decade long relationship with a man, and then left him for a woman. As far as I can tell, she's always found men and women about equally attractive.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  13. @Anon
    Sinema has a Master's, JD, MBA, and PhD degrees. I wonder if she regards bisexuality as just another credential to adopt along with her other degrees.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @JimDandy, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    A Ph.D. in justice studies from Arizona State. I’ll bet that thesis is mindblowing.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @JimDandy

    Definitely not going to read 250 pages of this, but she blames the current problems in Rwanda on the German and Belgians for their colonial presence there. At a quick glance, the writing does appear to be of a higher quality than the work Dr. Jill Biden turned in for a EDd.

    https://repository.asu.edu/items/14837

  14. @Jack Armstrong
    iSteve are you going to review this film?

    Becky Hall’s Passing praised to high heaven by Alexandra Kleeman in NYT mag …


    The Secret Toll of Racial Ambiguity

    Rebecca Hall’s new film adaptation of the 1929 novel “Passing” has cracked open a public conversation about colorism and privilege.
     


    Hall’s film has cracked open a public conversation about colorism, privilege and secrets. On Twitter, people are sharing stories and black-and-white photographs of a grandmother’s cousins who moved out of state, great-aunts who sneaked back to see their family in secret, relatives who lost their jobs when co-workers informed management about their identities: a public airing of what in Hall’s family was once closely held. Recently one of her mother’s sisters reached out: She said that they never really had language to understand the hidden context that shaped their family, and she thanked her for giving it to them.
     
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/20/magazine/rebecca-hall-passing.html

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/6a7b4ebb3108c279cc6c12bc0fac22851453e289/0_161_1952_1690/master/1952.jpg?width=620&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=6ca4030cd4ba94e714de540c2ef09cac

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @R.G. Camara, @Currahee, @Hibernian

    Actress Rebecca Hall is the daughter of Sir Peter Hall, the great English stage director, and an African-American opera soprano. The article makes the implausible claim that Rebecca didn’t really know her mother was part black when she clearly looked black in photographs.

    Why didn’t Hall play one of the sisters who can pass for white in her movie? She personally can pass, so she’d be a natural for a role.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Steve Sailer


    She personally can pass,
     
    for white, or for female?


    https://coed.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/r-hall.jpg?quality=88

    https://inglam.ru/img/2020/05/rebecca-hall-2017-tribeca-film-festival-portraits-001.jpg
    , @gandydancer
    @Steve Sailer


    Actress Rebecca Hall is the daughter of Sir Peter Hall, the great English stage director...
     
    Neither of you mention it, but those are her parents in Armstrong's photo.
  15. @M. Person
    Alptraum means nightmare in German.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @HammerJack, @The Alarmist, @Truth

    On the bright side, her parents had the wit to name her after this legend

  16. @JohnnyWalker123
    We did it, guys. We normalized fascism.

    https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1452732441035255817

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Stephen Paul Foster, @Almost Missouri, @Erik L, @Bugg, @duncsbaby

    Nazi-esque far-right ‘Great Replacement Theory’

    Fascism = Noticing.

    Good to know.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @HammerJack

    Whenever you listen to Tucker, you listen with Rammstein

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph-CA_tu5KA

    Replies: @Harpagornis

  17. @Jack Armstrong
    iSteve are you going to review this film?

    Becky Hall’s Passing praised to high heaven by Alexandra Kleeman in NYT mag …


    The Secret Toll of Racial Ambiguity

    Rebecca Hall’s new film adaptation of the 1929 novel “Passing” has cracked open a public conversation about colorism and privilege.
     


    Hall’s film has cracked open a public conversation about colorism, privilege and secrets. On Twitter, people are sharing stories and black-and-white photographs of a grandmother’s cousins who moved out of state, great-aunts who sneaked back to see their family in secret, relatives who lost their jobs when co-workers informed management about their identities: a public airing of what in Hall’s family was once closely held. Recently one of her mother’s sisters reached out: She said that they never really had language to understand the hidden context that shaped their family, and she thanked her for giving it to them.
     
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/20/magazine/rebecca-hall-passing.html

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/6a7b4ebb3108c279cc6c12bc0fac22851453e289/0_161_1952_1690/master/1952.jpg?width=620&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=6ca4030cd4ba94e714de540c2ef09cac

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @R.G. Camara, @Currahee, @Hibernian

    The “passing” phenomenon is, historically, a lot more secret wish fantasy than reality. Many black girls (especially lighter-skinned ones) dreamed of a Cinderella moment where they would show up at a ball with just the right lighting and dress and makeup and some rich white dude would instantly be smitten with them.

    It’s a fantasy that sold a lot of skin whitening cream.

    Some probably had a whole M. Butterfly fantasy where they would hide their color with good makeup, correct tones in colors, and constantly keeping themselves in dark shadows for the rest of their lives.

    Probably a lot of alleged “passers” made up some tall tales to amaze their darker-skinned relatives and friends in the country (and in the black community, lighter-skinned females love to rub their lighter skin in the noses of darker ones) and then scuttled back off to cities where black men could wine them and dine them.

    • Replies: @Discordiax
    @R.G. Camara

    "The “passing” phenomenon is, historically, a lot more secret wish fantasy than reality. Many black girls (especially lighter-skinned ones) dreamed of a Cinderella moment where they would show up at a ball with just the right lighting and dress and makeup and some rich white dude would instantly be smitten with them."

    I'm going to guess you don't follow stupid tabloid entertainment, but a light-skinned black woman actress Megan Markle literally married a Prince of England (the second son, not the heir).

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Jonathan Mason, @Muggles, @R.G. Camara

    , @TWS
    @R.G. Camara

    Passing for white was very real in Indian and black communities until at least the second half of the 20th century. I can't imagine a reason for it now.

    , @Truth
    @R.G. Camara


    The “passing” phenomenon is, historically, a lot more secret wish fantasy than reality. Many black girls (especially lighter-skinned ones) dreamed of a Cinderella moment where they would show up at a ball with just the right lighting and dress and makeup and some rich white dude would instantly be smitten with them.

    It’s a fantasy that sold a lot of skin whitening cream.
     
    Yeah, ridiculous. They probably should have suntanned...

    https://www.hiphollywood.com/2017/11/before-meghan-markle-6-black-women-who-married-european-royals/
    , @gandydancer
    @R.G. Camara

    Not entirely a fantasy. Rebecca Hall looks pretty white to me. As does Markle. "Black" looks may persist at lower genetic levels than, say, Australian aboriginal (referring to a previous conversation here) but attempts to apply a "one drop" rule are as stupid as Jews on the Brain.

    , @NOTA
    @R.G. Camara

    I think lighter skin is a marker of femininity somehow--skin whitener is apparently a big business in India, for example, and it's not like many of those women trying to hook a rich white man. OTOH, white women go to tanning salons, so maybe it's just human nature to want to change what you've got.

  18. Kyrsten Sinema has that Van Halen, naughty school teacher look. If she worked on her Instagram with this, she will never lose an Arizona election. I like the way she’s been throwing wrenches into the works. The Dem leadership is peeved at this rebel bisexual. Anyways, if she is so bisexual, how come no photos of her cute young girlfriend? Those stale, pale, male, John Cornyn Republicans in Congress salivate after AOC. (Fact!)
    Kyrsten of Dune, Arizona is on their list too.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Clyde

    Quite something that Sinema and her fellow rogue Democrat Senator Joe Manchin have pivotal status as key resistance against the worst in US lawmaking

    Flighty bi-sexual females hint to the male brain that a fantasy threesome f-f-m is not out of the question, she likely knows and makes use of this

    Kyrsten Sinema is indeed tops for political fashion splash... e.g,, Kyrsten in thigh-high boots, or as quasi-goth schoolgirl
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyCbErpU0AAE01D?format=jpg
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNo_U7PTGzk

    Replies: @Clyde

    , @Anon
    @Clyde

    She is incredibly slutty looking hot. Amazing for a middle aged woman

    Replies: @Clyde

  19. @Anon
    Sinema has a Master's, JD, MBA, and PhD degrees. I wonder if she regards bisexuality as just another credential to adopt along with her other degrees.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @JimDandy, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    All that alphabet soup, and she’s still a moron. She had to be past age 30 before she ever had a real job. Professional students/credentialists seem never to understand that in order to be effective, sooner or later you have to get kicked in the teeth a little by Life. So many leftists spend their time outraged and apoplectic about why the whole country doesn’t resemble their pleasant little college town.

    As for legislators, I think the only degree requirement should be the degree from UCLA: the University on the Corner of Lexington Avenue.

    • Agree: fish, Rich
    • Replies: @Currahee
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    "So many leftists spend their time outraged and apoplectic about why the whole country doesn’t resemble their pleasant little college town."

    So sadly true.

    , @fish
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Still, you have to root for a woman who disappoints so many progressives.

    , @kaganovitch
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    As for legislators, I think the only degree requirement should be the degree from UCLA: the University on the Corner of Lexington Avenue.

    Bloomingdale's ?

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

  20. @HammerJack
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Nazi-esque far-right 'Great Replacement Theory'
     
    Fascism = Noticing.

    Good to know.

    Replies: @El Dato

    Whenever you listen to Tucker, you listen with Rammstein

    • Replies: @Harpagornis
    @El Dato

    I appreciated the ants and the frisson of marching jackboots at the beginning of the song.

    When the Left listens to Tucker they imagine this /pol/ approved version of Rammstein's Deutschland:

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/EelCK0d6Ml74/

    The blatant Hitler worship / anti-Semitism confirms their suspicions while the inserted video fragments are in-your-face illustrations of Tucker's recent talking points.

  21. She’s not the only one confused about which team she plays for …

    Lesbians feel pressured into having sex with trans women over fears of being branded ‘transphobic’ while those who refuse face death threats, claim activists

    Jennie, a lesbian who is only attracted to women who are biologically female, says she has been described as transphobic, a genital fetishist, a pervert and a ‘terf’ – a trans exclusionary radical feminist.

    She told the BBC: ‘I’ve had someone saying they would rather kill me than Hitler.

    ‘They said they would strangle me with a belt if they were in a room with me and Hitler. That was so bizarrely violent, just because I won’t have sex with trans women.

    source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10132311/Some-lesbians-feel-pressured-sex-trans-women-fears-branded-transphobic.html

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @The Alarmist


    Jennie, a lesbian who is only attracted to women who are biologically female, says she has been described as transphobic, a genital fetishist, a pervert and a ‘terf’ – a trans exclusionary radical feminist.
     
    Wow! Imagine that? A trannie calling somebody else a pervert. We truly live in Clown World.

    Replies: @bgates

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @The Alarmist


    Jennie, a lesbian who is only attracted to women who are biologically female, says she has been described as transphobic, a genital fetishist, a pervert and a ‘terf’ – a trans exclusionary radical feminist.
     

    She told the BBC: ‘I’ve had someone saying they would rather kill me than Hitler.
     
    https://i.imgur.com/WeDivBc.gif
    , @El Dato
    @The Alarmist

    Islam is right about trans women.

    , @TWS
    @The Alarmist

    It's like they just can't help reinforcing every stereotype.

  22. @M. Person
    Alptraum means nightmare in German.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @HammerJack, @The Alarmist, @Truth

    Sure, the Duden now accepts it, but I still go with Albtraum.

  23. I’m not sure what all the hatred from NBC is about. As a bi- woman, Congressman Sinema has received praise from both parties for reaching across the aisle on various occasions. Only thing is, those occasions were in the Hefner Mansion, not the House chambers.

    Oh, bi-sexual! I thought she was just bi-partisan.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Achmed E. Newman


    As a bi- woman, Congressman Sinema...
     
    That’s Senator Sinema to you, buddy! Or is it Senatrix? Senatrice? Senatrx?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Stan Adams

  24. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon


    Sinema has a Master’s, JD, MBA, and PhD degrees.
     
    She should go to USC or UCLA film school...



    ...for Sinematography.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Anybody else here having a problem with the [GROAN] button?

    (Good one, Reg.)

    • Agree: fish
    • Replies: @fish
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I thought the "she should go to film school" worked all by itself.

  25. … making sure bisexuals don’t fall through the cracks…

    OK, come on!!

    • LOL: Cool Daddy Jimbo
    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Achmed E. Newman

    C'mon man! You beat me to my Beavis 'n' Butthead fifteen seconds of fame.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  26. @Colin Wright
    'Bisexual women are constantly told we’re untrustworthy, that our attraction to multiple genders means we’re more likely to cheat...'

    ? This is the first I've heard of this. It's strikes me as a poor cousin of that weird black hair thing.

    Don't these people have actual problems to worry about?

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    I mean, it’s true though. Almost by definition bisexuals are more likely to cheat than straight people, if only because there are twice as many potential partners.

    Having said that, I doubt she is constantly being told this.

  27. In theory, electing more bisexuals will lead to better legislation that more thoughtfully addresses bisexual-specific concerns

    Alex, what is a non sequitur?

    • Replies: @Charon
    @ScarletNumber

    Also, if we elect more martians, we can get more thoughtful legislation that addresses martian-specific concerns.

    What on earth are we waiting for??!

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    , @Stephen Paul Foster
    @ScarletNumber

    "In theory, electing more bisexuals will lead to better legislation that more thoughtfully addresses bisexual-specific concerns"


    "more bisexuals " ...... "more ... bisexual-specific concerns".

    Tautology?

  28. Sinema’s bisexuality seems a bit contrived. She’s a not-unattractive blonde, which makes her an attractive candidate. Her looks make her attractive to men. Her putative bisexuality makes her REALLY attractive to men, who think that lesbians look like the lesbians in Penthouse.

    • Agree: Charon
    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @Mr. Anon

    “Her putative bisexuality makes her REALLY attractive to men, who think that lesbians look like the lesbians in Penthouse”

    “Her putative bisexuality makes her REALLY attractive to men, who WISH that lesbians look like the lesbians in Penthouse”

    FIFY

    Replies: @NOTA

    , @Corn
    @Mr. Anon

    Though I’m an Illinoisan, I spent a part of the ‘08 campaign season in AZ when Sinema was a state representative who occasionally appeared on local Phoenix channels. I got the impression even then that she was basically a run of the mill pol: not brain dead, but not overly smart. But she looks good, sounds good, and is willing to move to the middle in what is a purple/light red state. I imagine she’ll warm a Senate seat for a long time.

    , @John Johnson
    @Mr. Anon

    90% of bisexual women:

    Woman that fooled around with a girl in college and now add it as a label to make themselves more sexually alluring.

    Women just aren't that into women even if they would like to be. I used to work public events and lesbians were the most miserable creatures. Gay men would be having fun while the lesbians mostly gave us glares as if we were waiting for the right moment to hit on their 250lb butch husband.

    Homosexuality on TV and in real life are completely different affairs. Most lesbians are really just women that don't attract men and use another woman as a substitute. It's not 'by chance' that so many are butch. They attract bottom of the barrel men and aren't happy about it.

  29. @The Alarmist
    She’s not the only one confused about which team she plays for ...

    Lesbians feel pressured into having sex with trans women over fears of being branded 'transphobic' while those who refuse face death threats, claim activists

    Jennie, a lesbian who is only attracted to women who are biologically female, says she has been described as transphobic, a genital fetishist, a pervert and a 'terf' - a trans exclusionary radical feminist.

    She told the BBC: 'I've had someone saying they would rather kill me than Hitler.

    'They said they would strangle me with a belt if they were in a room with me and Hitler. That was so bizarrely violent, just because I won't have sex with trans women.

     

    source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10132311/Some-lesbians-feel-pressured-sex-trans-women-fears-branded-transphobic.html

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Bardon Kaldian, @El Dato, @TWS

    Jennie, a lesbian who is only attracted to women who are biologically female, says she has been described as transphobic, a genital fetishist, a pervert and a ‘terf’ – a trans exclusionary radical feminist.

    Wow! Imagine that? A trannie calling somebody else a pervert. We truly live in Clown World.

    • Replies: @bgates
    @Mr. Anon

    Feminism is the radical notion that women are people without cocks

  30. @Achmed E. Newman
    I'm not sure what all the hatred from NBC is about. As a bi- woman, Congressman Sinema has received praise from both parties for reaching across the aisle on various occasions. Only thing is, those occasions were in the Hefner Mansion, not the House chambers.

    Oh, bi-sexual! I thought she was just bi-partisan.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    As a bi- woman, Congressman Sinema…

    That’s Senator Sinema to you, buddy! Or is it Senatrix? Senatrice? Senatrx?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @The Alarmist

    oops! Silly commenter, tricks are for Senatrix. Thanx, Alarmist.

    , @Stan Adams
    @The Alarmist

    Sinema … a combination of sin and enema?

  31. Bisexual is another way of saying “I have BPD”, most of them who claim aren’t even attracted to their own sex. Almost nobody is actually bisexual in any meaningful sense.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Altai


    Almost nobody is actually bisexual in any meaningful sense.
     
    No, that's not true. There are plenty of such people in history. As had been said about Alcibiades: ‘When he was a young boy he lured husbands away from their wives, but when he was a young man he lured wives away from their husbands’

    And then Marlene Dietrich, Greta Garbo, Andre Gide, Alfred Kinsey, Colette, Laurence Olivier, ....

    Replies: @Altai, @Joe Stalin, @nebulafox

    , @Art Deco
    @Altai

    Bisexual is another way of saying “I have BPD”,

    You're projecting again.

    , @Mike Tre
    @Altai

    Attractive females use the bisexual label as an attention seeking device almost exclusively.

  32. anonymous[491] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde
    Kyrsten Sinema has that Van Halen, naughty school teacher look. If she worked on her Instagram with this, she will never lose an Arizona election. I like the way she's been throwing wrenches into the works. The Dem leadership is peeved at this rebel bisexual. Anyways, if she is so bisexual, how come no photos of her cute young girlfriend? Those stale, pale, male, John Cornyn Republicans in Congress salivate after AOC. (Fact!)
    Kyrsten of Dune, Arizona is on their list too.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Anon

    Quite something that Sinema and her fellow rogue Democrat Senator Joe Manchin have pivotal status as key resistance against the worst in US lawmaking

    Flighty bi-sexual females hint to the male brain that a fantasy threesome f-f-m is not out of the question, she likely knows and makes use of this

    Kyrsten Sinema is indeed tops for political fashion splash… e.g,, Kyrsten in thigh-high boots, or as quasi-goth schoolgirl
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyCbErpU0AAE01D?format=jpg

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @anonymous


    Kyrsten Sinema is indeed tops for political fashion splash… e.g,, Kyrsten in thigh-high boots, or as quasi-goth schoolgirl
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyCbErpU0AAE01D?format=jpg
     
    Hahaha..my laughs for today! I like her video too. Kyrsten Sinema is a performance artist who just happens to be a US Senator. Nancy Pelosi hates her but says nothing due to KS' bisexual female status. I see no Congress critters or Senators giving KS a hard time as she blocks Biden/Congress crazy spending. KS is too 45 year old hot to handle safely, you will only come out w egg on your face. As food and gasoline inflation sets in, partly due to mad Federal Covid19 spending and mad budget proposals. I saw another jump at the pumps today.
    AOC age 32
    KS age 45
  33. @R.G. Camara
    For men, bisexual women are like poison candy:

    At firs you're like , "How's that? OH YEAAH!"

    And then you're like, "OMG its horrid. Run!"

    As always, sexual degeneracy is a huge signal that the person is bad, bad news.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Wilkey

    At firs you’re like , “How’s that? OH YEAAH!” And then you’re like, “OMG its horrid. Run!”

    Yes. There’s the fantasy of bisexual women, then there’s the reality. Most of them are just crazy, narcissistic, selfish, and indecisive. Those are the kinds of traits that drive men (and women) batty, and that’s why they suffer from more physical abuse. They’re probably more likely to dish out the abuse, as well.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Wilkey

    A former girlfriend had a six-month lesbian affair with a rather scary butch type. She said that every boy she went out with afterwards (small town, people knew) wanted as much detail as possible on what they got up to in bed.

    Replies: @Shouting Thomas, @Herzog, @Bill Jones, @Alden

    , @Corn
    @Wilkey

    Not to be too crass but I think Heartiste or some pick up artist type once said something to the effect, “The vaginally/sexually flighty woman is an emotionally flighty woman”.

  34. I think bisexuality doesn’t really exist, by and large. There are basically straight men who’ll do some things with guys if they can’t get anything better (i.e. female), and lesbians who’ve realised that calling yourself a lesbian turns off almost all normal women.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Joe S.Walker

    A fully straight man might be ok with getting some head from a guy, but I imagine most won't. I think most self-described incels are fully straight because otherwise they would just download Grindr instead of crying about hypergamy all the time. It is much easier for a man to hookup with another man than to hook up with a woman. This is especially true of men below the 85th percentile of attractiveness

    Frankly, as open hypergamy intensifies, I imagine many more men will turn to gay sex because utter celibacy is often intolerable for some people.

    Replies: @Corn

    , @Paul Mendez
    @Joe S.Walker

    Having known (not in the biblical sense!) two bisexual women, I’d say they simply have a very high sex drive combined with a very flexible definition of who is an acceptable partner. One was married, both were into swinging, so part of it might have been keeping their husband/boyfriend happy.

    I read somewhere that bi women have had, on average, sex with more different men than the average straight woman.

    Replies: @Clyde, @Jack Armstrong

  35. @ScarletNumber

    In theory, electing more bisexuals will lead to better legislation that more thoughtfully addresses bisexual-specific concerns
     
    Alex, what is a non sequitur?

    Replies: @Charon, @Stephen Paul Foster

    Also, if we elect more martians, we can get more thoughtful legislation that addresses martian-specific concerns.

    What on earth are we waiting for??!

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Charon

    What on earth are we waiting for??!

    Elon Musk?

  36. @Mr. Anon
    @The Alarmist


    Jennie, a lesbian who is only attracted to women who are biologically female, says she has been described as transphobic, a genital fetishist, a pervert and a ‘terf’ – a trans exclusionary radical feminist.
     
    Wow! Imagine that? A trannie calling somebody else a pervert. We truly live in Clown World.

    Replies: @bgates

    Feminism is the radical notion that women are people without cocks

    • Agree: Mr. Anon
  37. @The Alarmist
    She’s not the only one confused about which team she plays for ...

    Lesbians feel pressured into having sex with trans women over fears of being branded 'transphobic' while those who refuse face death threats, claim activists

    Jennie, a lesbian who is only attracted to women who are biologically female, says she has been described as transphobic, a genital fetishist, a pervert and a 'terf' - a trans exclusionary radical feminist.

    She told the BBC: 'I've had someone saying they would rather kill me than Hitler.

    'They said they would strangle me with a belt if they were in a room with me and Hitler. That was so bizarrely violent, just because I won't have sex with trans women.

     

    source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10132311/Some-lesbians-feel-pressured-sex-trans-women-fears-branded-transphobic.html

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Bardon Kaldian, @El Dato, @TWS

    Jennie, a lesbian who is only attracted to women who are biologically female, says she has been described as transphobic, a genital fetishist, a pervert and a ‘terf’ – a trans exclusionary radical feminist.

    She told the BBC: ‘I’ve had someone saying they would rather kill me than Hitler.

  38. @Altai
    Bisexual is another way of saying "I have BPD", most of them who claim aren't even attracted to their own sex. Almost nobody is actually bisexual in any meaningful sense.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Art Deco, @Mike Tre

    Almost nobody is actually bisexual in any meaningful sense.

    No, that’s not true. There are plenty of such people in history. As had been said about Alcibiades: ‘When he was a young boy he lured husbands away from their wives, but when he was a young man he lured wives away from their husbands’

    And then Marlene Dietrich, Greta Garbo, Andre Gide, Alfred Kinsey, Colette, Laurence Olivier, ….

    • Replies: @Altai
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Among men, among women, the majority of people you'd find who identified that way in surveys today would just be young women with BPD. Most 'bisexual' women today are not really attracted to their own sex. Same thing is happening with FtM trans, people imagine most of them are lesbians but that isn't the case anymore and a lot of the ones who 'identified' as lesbian realise afterwards that they just had a complex about having the female role in sex and relationships once they 'transition'.

    This is borne out by the survey in the piece, those sounds like the problems of women with BPD. 'Bisexual' in the survey was a status contaminated by straight women with BPD.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Triteleia Laxa

    , @Joe Stalin
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Catherine Deneuve, known for lesbian dalliances, so beautiful they made her Marianne, to represent France.

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d1/64/59/d1645971cf2b01d754e00e5d37e971f3.jpg

    Absolutely gorgeous at age 20.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5AJUkDcLIU

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Lockean Proviso, @Alden

    , @nebulafox
    @Bardon Kaldian

    After restoring the Republic and resigning the dictatorship, Lucius Cornelius Sulla forced all the bastards in the Senate to applaud as he kissed his favorite drag queen in front of them as he retired... now that's how you do it. He then proceeded to march out of Rome with all the actors, winos, comedians, and hookers in tow, off to retirement. Not quite Cincinnatus. But original. Authentic.

    Remaining loyal to the people who were with you at the bottom at your peak and showing those who fawned over you after to know their symbolic place at the end. What a man.

  39. @Charon

    Bisexual women are constantly told we’re untrustworthy
     
    Constantly being the word of choice for females online who are retailing a story they pretty much made up. Good to see it's spread to the MSM.

    Mind you, the perfidy of lesbians is a matter of some notoriety and I do not dispute that. But they're constantly being told? Nope, just more perfidy.

    Replies: @G. Poulin, @Alfa158, @Jmaie, @SunBakedSuburb

    They’re constantly being told that by the little voice inside their heads that tells them when they are being bad. We used to call it a “conscience”.

  40. “lesbians are violently victimized by women at a higher rate than straight women are violently victimized by men”

    Those who wish can follow the trial of two lesbians charged with killing the 15 month old daughter of one of them (who presumably wasn’t THAT lesbian when she was conceived). The little girl died of “catastrophic” injuries.

    https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/19675225.live-updates-star-hobson-death-trial---day-6/

    More background here, no mention of daddy though. Can’t be fun to testify against your own daughter. Another sad underclass tale.

    https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/19671789.star-hobson-trial-toddlers-grandmother-gives-evidence-daughter-partner/

  41. @JohnnyWalker123
    We did it, guys. We normalized fascism.

    https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1452732441035255817

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Stephen Paul Foster, @Almost Missouri, @Erik L, @Bugg, @duncsbaby

    “We did it, guys. We normalized fascism.”

    First good news I’ve heard in months.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  42. @ScarletNumber

    In theory, electing more bisexuals will lead to better legislation that more thoughtfully addresses bisexual-specific concerns
     
    Alex, what is a non sequitur?

    Replies: @Charon, @Stephen Paul Foster

    “In theory, electing more bisexuals will lead to better legislation that more thoughtfully addresses bisexual-specific concerns”

    “more bisexuals ” …… “more … bisexual-specific concerns”.

    Tautology?

  43. @The Alarmist
    She’s not the only one confused about which team she plays for ...

    Lesbians feel pressured into having sex with trans women over fears of being branded 'transphobic' while those who refuse face death threats, claim activists

    Jennie, a lesbian who is only attracted to women who are biologically female, says she has been described as transphobic, a genital fetishist, a pervert and a 'terf' - a trans exclusionary radical feminist.

    She told the BBC: 'I've had someone saying they would rather kill me than Hitler.

    'They said they would strangle me with a belt if they were in a room with me and Hitler. That was so bizarrely violent, just because I won't have sex with trans women.

     

    source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10132311/Some-lesbians-feel-pressured-sex-trans-women-fears-branded-transphobic.html

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Bardon Kaldian, @El Dato, @TWS

    Islam is right about trans women.

  44. bisexual-specific concerns

    The mind boggles.

  45. In “Sticks and Stones,” Dave Chappelle imagined a car containing one each of the LGBTs on a long trip.

    And the only thing that breaks the tension between the L’s and the G’s are the B’s in the backseat. That’s right. There you go. Everybody scream out when you hear your letter. If there’s one thing that the L’s and the G’s agree on, is it’s that the B’s are fuckin’ gross.

  46. In general, countless social science studies have found that bis are bad news

    Yes , if you don’t like the woman on top, and aren’t man enough to get her to do it the traditional way.

    It’s almost as bisexual women tend to be too sluttish and focused on their short term pleasures to defer gratification.

    Like men you mean?

    • LOL: Alden
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Sean

    "Like men you mean?"

    Maybe. Do 30% of US men live below the poverty line?

    (I don't agree with Steve on that, mind, female bisexuality is pretty common whether expressed or not - perhaps it's expressed more among the poor? I only know the UK, but there's two big groups of poor women here who might be more likely to dabble - single mother on council estate and single arty/SJW student type still sharing a house in the city at 35)

  47. @Wilkey
    @R.G. Camara


    At firs you’re like , “How’s that? OH YEAAH!” And then you’re like, “OMG its horrid. Run!”
     
    Yes. There's the fantasy of bisexual women, then there's the reality. Most of them are just crazy, narcissistic, selfish, and indecisive. Those are the kinds of traits that drive men (and women) batty, and that's why they suffer from more physical abuse. They're probably more likely to dish out the abuse, as well.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Corn

    A former girlfriend had a six-month lesbian affair with a rather scary butch type. She said that every boy she went out with afterwards (small town, people knew) wanted as much detail as possible on what they got up to in bed.

    • Replies: @Shouting Thomas
    @YetAnotherAnon

    There isn’t that much detail to be had.

    Same old same old.

    , @Herzog
    @YetAnotherAnon

    She appears to be working hard not ever to be considered marriage material. At least not at her current place.

    , @Bill Jones
    @YetAnotherAnon


    She said that every boy she went out with afterwards (small town, people knew) wanted as much detail as possible on what they got up to in bed.
     
    Market research?
    , @Alden
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Couldn’t they figure it out?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  48. @The Alarmist
    @Achmed E. Newman


    As a bi- woman, Congressman Sinema...
     
    That’s Senator Sinema to you, buddy! Or is it Senatrix? Senatrice? Senatrx?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Stan Adams

    oops! Silly commenter, tricks are for Senatrix. Thanx, Alarmist.

  49. Senator Kyrsten Lea Sinema = Men ain’t near-real seks toys.

  50. @JohnnyWalker123
    We did it, guys. We normalized fascism.

    https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1452732441035255817

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Stephen Paul Foster, @Almost Missouri, @Erik L, @Bugg, @duncsbaby

    My man Mehdi just jealous he never gonna be named “hottest” anything.

    OTOH, Muslim Mehdi has a way of noticing liberal hypocrisy:

    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/charlie-hebdo-free-speech_b_6462584.html

    And why have you been so silent on the glaring double standards? Did you not know that Charlie Hebdo sacked the veteran French cartoonist Maurice Sinet in 2008 for making an allegedly anti-Semitic remark?

    Hey Mehdi, submit your unpublishables to the Unz Review. I bet it’ll get printed. You were looking for free speech in all the wrong places on the left.

  51. As with any out of the mainstream community, proponents reflexively list a litany of negative outcomes associated with it as though these things just randomly happen to people with their identity rather than being a direct product of it. Trans, bisexual, non-binary, etc. are generally people with mental health issues and casting about for a socially acceptable ‘community’ is trying to get at an itch they cannot scratch.

    Also I laughed out loud when this author, after decrying unfair stereotypes about bisexuals, then goes on to say that Sinema embodies those very stereotypes. How can that be? To the extent I ever think about bisexuals – which is hardly ever – my impression is for men it’s gays that occasionally hook up with gay-loving women, and women who are bad at relationships and rarely really date anyone.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @Arclight

    I had a friend in the 80's who was bisexual. Now, she did not "identify" that way, but that's how she lived. Her life revolved around cigarettes, alcohol, and drugs. The others that she hooked up with, male and female, were also drug users. They had steady parties that involved lots of drinking and drug-taking (speed, pot, cocaine, whatever) and then there might be some hooking up. What a life!

    why were we friends? Because I was the "clean" friend, around whom she could be normal and sober. I thought I could change her, but alas, she died much too young.

  52. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Altai


    Almost nobody is actually bisexual in any meaningful sense.
     
    No, that's not true. There are plenty of such people in history. As had been said about Alcibiades: ‘When he was a young boy he lured husbands away from their wives, but when he was a young man he lured wives away from their husbands’

    And then Marlene Dietrich, Greta Garbo, Andre Gide, Alfred Kinsey, Colette, Laurence Olivier, ....

    Replies: @Altai, @Joe Stalin, @nebulafox

    Among men, among women, the majority of people you’d find who identified that way in surveys today would just be young women with BPD. Most ‘bisexual’ women today are not really attracted to their own sex. Same thing is happening with FtM trans, people imagine most of them are lesbians but that isn’t the case anymore and a lot of the ones who ‘identified’ as lesbian realise afterwards that they just had a complex about having the female role in sex and relationships once they ‘transition’.

    This is borne out by the survey in the piece, those sounds like the problems of women with BPD. ‘Bisexual’ in the survey was a status contaminated by straight women with BPD.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Altai

    I am not talking about fads, popular culture mass hysteria & similar stuff. All I am saying that such people have always existed & will continue to exist.

    , @Triteleia Laxa
    @Altai

    It is a cliche that repressed and narcissistic people see borderline people everywhere, especially in the other sex or other race or other sexuality. The inverse is also a cliche.

  53. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Wilkey

    A former girlfriend had a six-month lesbian affair with a rather scary butch type. She said that every boy she went out with afterwards (small town, people knew) wanted as much detail as possible on what they got up to in bed.

    Replies: @Shouting Thomas, @Herzog, @Bill Jones, @Alden

    There isn’t that much detail to be had.

    Same old same old.

    • Agree: Rich
  54. @Altai
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Among men, among women, the majority of people you'd find who identified that way in surveys today would just be young women with BPD. Most 'bisexual' women today are not really attracted to their own sex. Same thing is happening with FtM trans, people imagine most of them are lesbians but that isn't the case anymore and a lot of the ones who 'identified' as lesbian realise afterwards that they just had a complex about having the female role in sex and relationships once they 'transition'.

    This is borne out by the survey in the piece, those sounds like the problems of women with BPD. 'Bisexual' in the survey was a status contaminated by straight women with BPD.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Triteleia Laxa

    I am not talking about fads, popular culture mass hysteria & similar stuff. All I am saying that such people have always existed & will continue to exist.

  55. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Wilkey

    A former girlfriend had a six-month lesbian affair with a rather scary butch type. She said that every boy she went out with afterwards (small town, people knew) wanted as much detail as possible on what they got up to in bed.

    Replies: @Shouting Thomas, @Herzog, @Bill Jones, @Alden

    She appears to be working hard not ever to be considered marriage material. At least not at her current place.

  56. All this because she has the audacity not to vote for a bill.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @countenance

    Exactly.

    Sinema's is a Democrat barely elected in a traditionally Republican state which with immigration and influx has become a swing state. And shockingly acts like she wants to maintain a "centrist" profile to help get re-elected.

    , @Muggles
    @countenance


    All this because she has the audacity not to vote for a bill.
     
    Yes, of course.

    She could be LBGTQ+ with a few extra tweaks thrown in (if you can think of one) but the fascist left progs don't really care.

    You toe the Party Line or are viciously attacked for being some sort of traitor. No, not "principled" or open minded or any of the lovely accolades bestowed when some squishy GOP type deviates from the norm, no, none of that.

    You are instead pilloried with the nastiest lies they can invent. "Crazy bisexual!" (Who knew? Not me.)

    The only time I ever felt any sympathy for the (now sainted) Ruth Bader Ginsburg was after she had the gall to not resign/quit while Obama was still President. Then she had the nerve to die while Trump was in office! Imagine that!

    She evidently believed the MSM baloney that Hillary was a shoo-in. So after Trump appointed her replacement she was demonized as a selfish witch who sacrificed Feminist Purity for her own selfish needs. The young female Twitter mob took out their verbal knives on her.

    Ha! So she actually did something good. So the one good thing RBG did was to keep working regardless who who might win a future election. Better start smashing those statues of her they erected in those Women's Studies dining halls.
  57. @The Alarmist
    @Achmed E. Newman


    As a bi- woman, Congressman Sinema...
     
    That’s Senator Sinema to you, buddy! Or is it Senatrix? Senatrice? Senatrx?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Stan Adams

    Sinema … a combination of sin and enema?

    • LOL: Joseph Doaks
  58. @Altai
    Bisexual is another way of saying "I have BPD", most of them who claim aren't even attracted to their own sex. Almost nobody is actually bisexual in any meaningful sense.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Art Deco, @Mike Tre

    Bisexual is another way of saying “I have BPD”,

    You’re projecting again.

  59. She’s too sexy to be a dyke.

    • Disagree: TWS
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Anonymous

    "I'm too sexy for my [Senate] seat,
    too sexy for my seat,
    too sexy for my seat."

    , @Frank McGar
    @Anonymous

    There's usually two types of lesbians: there's the real dykes, who are generally not appealing to men at all and don't want to be (think Rosie O'Donnell, Ellen, Rachel Maddow); then there's the bisexuals, who became bi after a series of failed (and/or abusive) relationships with men. Hot bisexual women are always appealing in theory, but they are often trainwrecks in real life.

    , @Alfa158
    @Anonymous

    I don’t know about her, she has kind of a crazy-ex-girlfriend vibe. I would steer clear of her if I was still single.
    Also, bit of advice for the younger single guys; don’t get involved with bisexual women just because you think that they will get you into threesomes with another bisexual woman. Yes, it’s a fantastic ride when it does happen, but don’t count on it. Most women, even if bi, only want to be with one other person at a time, and you just end up with a girlfriend who is more likely to have a flaky personality.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Jack Armstrong

    , @The Alarmist
    @Anonymous

    Same could have been said about Anne Heche....


    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-B8499QjQCrE/UwxXTaHQDWI/AAAAAAAADPk/h7FTMtHcVLM/s1600/Anne+Heche.jpg

    Did she use Ellen, did she switch teams, or is she really Bi?

    https://i1.wp.com/wikibioworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Anne-Heche-Husband-and-children.jpg

    She and Senatrx Sinema might make a cute couple now that she’s separated.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous

    This sort of "fashion" nonsense is hardly restricted to Sinema or bi-sexual women. It is utterly common among a huge fraction of hetero women.

    The feminist line was--at least originally--that women could do what men do and were more than ready to shoulder the same responsibilities as men. But a good slice of them, given even a bit of responsibility can't even project a tiny bit of sobriety. Given the chance they just can't resist the "hey look at me!"

    In contrast, when it comes to actual thought ... most of them avidly conform to whatever received "wisdom" girl talk TV is pumping out.

    The whole exercise has demonstrated why--warts and all, and yeah there have been lots of warts--"the patriarchy" was in charge of every successful civilization in human history. (No doubt the Chinese have watched this shit show and figured this out.)

    , @Alden
    @Anonymous

    Not my style. But it’s a change from black pantsuits with white blouses or T shirts and black pants with black tops. That’s probably why whoever hates her hates her. She wears skirts and dresses.

  60. “In theory, electing more bisexuals will lead to better legislation that more thoughtfully addresses bisexual-specific concerns…”

    In the same way that appointing Petey Boatigig as Transpo Sec has him focused like a laser on “parental leave”, instead of, you know, transportation problems.

    • Agree: JerseyJeffersonian
  61. @Mr. Anon
    Sinema's bisexuality seems a bit contrived. She's a not-unattractive blonde, which makes her an attractive candidate. Her looks make her attractive to men. Her putative bisexuality makes her REALLY attractive to men, who think that lesbians look like the lesbians in Penthouse.

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Corn, @John Johnson

    “Her putative bisexuality makes her REALLY attractive to men, who think that lesbians look like the lesbians in Penthouse”

    “Her putative bisexuality makes her REALLY attractive to men, who WISH that lesbians look like the lesbians in Penthouse”

    FIFY

    • Replies: @NOTA
    @Ganderson

    What's the point in wishing for more smokin hot women who aren't interested in men?

    Replies: @Ganderson

  62. @countenance
    All this because she has the audacity not to vote for a bill.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Muggles

    Exactly.

    Sinema’s is a Democrat barely elected in a traditionally Republican state which with immigration and influx has become a swing state. And shockingly acts like she wants to maintain a “centrist” profile to help get re-elected.

  63. In theory, electing more bisexuals will lead to better legislation that more thoughtfully addresses bisexual-specific concerns, making sure bisexuals don’t fall through the cracks of public health, anti-violence and anti-poverty initiatives.

    In a sane nation, the particularly issues of bisexuals and other various sexual freaks and misfires would be of no particular interest or account.

    This is the fundamental political problem of the West: Do normies have a right to live in and run their nations for normies.

  64. Is bisexuality that rare for women on the left? Don’t something like 30-40-50% of young (then under 30, now under 40) liberal or very liberal women identify as bisexual?

    I wonder about Sinema. Did some LoeTacks billionaire see the populist tack the Republicans were taking, and decide to buy a “Democratic” Senatoratrix? Or is the Republican party so unpopular with the recently post-college white women class from which he fishes for mistresses that he has to bankroll a “Democrat”?

    It flummoxes me that the political party for which “starve the beast,” whereby the federal government borrows so much money that it, after at least 40 years, who knows how many more, can no longer pay for “guns and butter” will one day decide that it prefers the warfare state to the welfare state? The “starve the beast thing was such party-line Republicanism that it made the Wall Street Journal editorial page. How did that party ever get the reputation as the fiscally responsible one?

    Leave aside that, in the words of Michael Scott, for a billionaire to favor fiscal failure of the USG is “cutting off your nose to spider face.” Actually, no. Let’s not leave that aside. Why do billionaires, most of whom are billionaires off fiscal shenanigans, think that getting the hardnosed “realist” types into “kill the speculators and Jews” mode of thinking is a good idea?

    Surely, after 40-odd years of failing to outgrow the deficit, and knowing that, should the dice be recast, the current billionaires are unlikely to come up with all boxcars again, surely they should think that taxes now are better than dissolution later?

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @Rob

    The irony being that Republicans, Trumpists and RINOs alike, are all for lower cap gains and estate taxes on billionaires precisely at the time when billionaires are ever more unrepresentative of the American people, ethnically speaking. Asians are a growing share. Jews are up to around 40% of them. Increasingly they live in the big coastal cities, not the heartland. And even those who are more ethnically similar to the average American don't really care about their co-ethnics all that much. The political causes and charitable causes they support simply don't align.

    The first "conservative" thing Republicans did when Bush was elected was cut taxes on the rich, including estate taxes. It was also just about the last "conservative" thing they did. They spent the rest of his eight years refusing to fight in the culture wars and flooding the country with immigrants, legal and illegal - and pushing for citizenship for the millions of illegals already here.

    People vote for conservatives because they want to conserve what is good about this country. That is the root word of conservative. And yet the RINO half of the GOP did everything they could to guarantee that would be a losing battle. The people who care more about controlling immigration and winning the culture war didn't get a damn thing. But they sure were happy to let them have their tax cuts.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

  65. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Wilkey

    A former girlfriend had a six-month lesbian affair with a rather scary butch type. She said that every boy she went out with afterwards (small town, people knew) wanted as much detail as possible on what they got up to in bed.

    Replies: @Shouting Thomas, @Herzog, @Bill Jones, @Alden

    She said that every boy she went out with afterwards (small town, people knew) wanted as much detail as possible on what they got up to in bed.

    Market research?

  66. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Anon

    All that alphabet soup, and she's still a moron. She had to be past age 30 before she ever had a real job. Professional students/credentialists seem never to understand that in order to be effective, sooner or later you have to get kicked in the teeth a little by Life. So many leftists spend their time outraged and apoplectic about why the whole country doesn't resemble their pleasant little college town.

    As for legislators, I think the only degree requirement should be the degree from UCLA: the University on the Corner of Lexington Avenue.

    Replies: @Currahee, @fish, @kaganovitch

    “So many leftists spend their time outraged and apoplectic about why the whole country doesn’t resemble their pleasant little college town.”

    So sadly true.

  67. I kinda doubt she gets hit on too much by guys…

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Jim Don Bob

    Definitely not Thee Most Exalted Potentate of Love:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8T45wL4eJs

  68. @Anonymous



    https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/01/03/USAT/7e785744-3d59-4010-99e0-b05871801f96-Congress015.JPG
    https://i0.wp.com/www.independentsentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/sinema.jpg

     

    She’s too sexy to be a dyke.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Frank McGar, @Alfa158, @The Alarmist, @AnotherDad, @Alden

    “I’m too sexy for my [Senate] seat,
    too sexy for my seat,
    too sexy for my seat.”

  69. @Joe S.Walker
    I think bisexuality doesn't really exist, by and large. There are basically straight men who'll do some things with guys if they can't get anything better (i.e. female), and lesbians who've realised that calling yourself a lesbian turns off almost all normal women.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Paul Mendez

    A fully straight man might be ok with getting some head from a guy, but I imagine most won’t. I think most self-described incels are fully straight because otherwise they would just download Grindr instead of crying about hypergamy all the time. It is much easier for a man to hookup with another man than to hook up with a woman. This is especially true of men below the 85th percentile of attractiveness

    Frankly, as open hypergamy intensifies, I imagine many more men will turn to gay sex because utter celibacy is often intolerable for some people.

    • Replies: @Corn
    @AndrewR

    I certainly hope not. We’ll be more like the Arab world. There polygamy/sharia keeps women away from many men so you have a lot of “down low” sex or assault. I’d hate to think the same thing happens here because women are chasing the top 20%

  70. @Wilkey
    @R.G. Camara


    At firs you’re like , “How’s that? OH YEAAH!” And then you’re like, “OMG its horrid. Run!”
     
    Yes. There's the fantasy of bisexual women, then there's the reality. Most of them are just crazy, narcissistic, selfish, and indecisive. Those are the kinds of traits that drive men (and women) batty, and that's why they suffer from more physical abuse. They're probably more likely to dish out the abuse, as well.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Corn

    Not to be too crass but I think Heartiste or some pick up artist type once said something to the effect, “The vaginally/sexually flighty woman is an emotionally flighty woman”.

  71. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Anon

    All that alphabet soup, and she's still a moron. She had to be past age 30 before she ever had a real job. Professional students/credentialists seem never to understand that in order to be effective, sooner or later you have to get kicked in the teeth a little by Life. So many leftists spend their time outraged and apoplectic about why the whole country doesn't resemble their pleasant little college town.

    As for legislators, I think the only degree requirement should be the degree from UCLA: the University on the Corner of Lexington Avenue.

    Replies: @Currahee, @fish, @kaganovitch

    Still, you have to root for a woman who disappoints so many progressives.

  72. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar

    Anybody else here having a problem with the [GROAN] button?

    (Good one, Reg.)

    Replies: @fish

    I thought the “she should go to film school” worked all by itself.

  73. “Interesting how lesbians are violently victimized by women at a higher rate than straight women are violently victimized by men.”

    Counterintuitive data from surveys always says “look closer.” How many of those “lesbians” experienced DV from a man, which is a big reason that they’re lesbians now?

    Second counterquestion: Are those numbers an artifact of greater DV, or of different cultural groups classifying more things as DV? Young folks these days are liable to say things like “The way he looked at me, the tone in his voice just had such a violent energy, I was terrified. I felt attacked.” Are those “folx” more likely to report loud arguments as domestic violence? This is less likely to be the explanation, as the story says “rape, stalking, intimate partner violence.” But we should examine–“are words violence” before we assume that reported violence is, y’know, violence.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Discordiax

    Well if they were beaten into lesbianism by men, they weren't lesbians at the time the beatings started, so they don't count.

    I'd prefer to skip your pretzel logic and go straight to my source-- a lesbian cop that I know who also moonlights a few extra part time hours as an EMT.

    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Discordiax

    “How many of those “lesbians” experienced DV from a man, which is a big reason that they’re lesbians now?“

    It’s very interesting that there are so many instances of women becoming lesbian because of bad experiences with men. But you never hear about straight guys turning gay because of bad experiences with women.

    Replies: @Obstinate Cymric, @Jim Don Bob

  74. @Mr. Anon
    Sinema's bisexuality seems a bit contrived. She's a not-unattractive blonde, which makes her an attractive candidate. Her looks make her attractive to men. Her putative bisexuality makes her REALLY attractive to men, who think that lesbians look like the lesbians in Penthouse.

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Corn, @John Johnson

    Though I’m an Illinoisan, I spent a part of the ‘08 campaign season in AZ when Sinema was a state representative who occasionally appeared on local Phoenix channels. I got the impression even then that she was basically a run of the mill pol: not brain dead, but not overly smart. But she looks good, sounds good, and is willing to move to the middle in what is a purple/light red state. I imagine she’ll warm a Senate seat for a long time.

  75. @R.G. Camara
    @Jack Armstrong

    The "passing" phenomenon is, historically, a lot more secret wish fantasy than reality. Many black girls (especially lighter-skinned ones) dreamed of a Cinderella moment where they would show up at a ball with just the right lighting and dress and makeup and some rich white dude would instantly be smitten with them.

    It's a fantasy that sold a lot of skin whitening cream.

    Some probably had a whole M. Butterfly fantasy where they would hide their color with good makeup, correct tones in colors, and constantly keeping themselves in dark shadows for the rest of their lives.

    Probably a lot of alleged "passers" made up some tall tales to amaze their darker-skinned relatives and friends in the country (and in the black community, lighter-skinned females love to rub their lighter skin in the noses of darker ones) and then scuttled back off to cities where black men could wine them and dine them.

    Replies: @Discordiax, @TWS, @Truth, @gandydancer, @NOTA

    “The “passing” phenomenon is, historically, a lot more secret wish fantasy than reality. Many black girls (especially lighter-skinned ones) dreamed of a Cinderella moment where they would show up at a ball with just the right lighting and dress and makeup and some rich white dude would instantly be smitten with them.”

    I’m going to guess you don’t follow stupid tabloid entertainment, but a light-skinned black woman actress Megan Markle literally married a Prince of England (the second son, not the heir).

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Discordiax

    Not sure I would call the marriage of the son of England's next king "tabloid entertainment." And Meghan would be better described as a dark skinned white girl, given that she's clearly more than 50% white

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Discordiax

    Meghan Markle is the new Sally Hemings, and her story has already been made into a pantomime!

    Oh, yes it has!

    , @Muggles
    @Discordiax


    I’m going to guess you don’t follow stupid tabloid entertainment, but a light-skinned black woman actress Megan Markle literally married a Prince of England (the second son, not the heir)
     
    Why do you call Markle "a light skinned black woman actress" when she is merely a biracial (or to use the older term, mulatto) actress?

    Do you follow the one-drop rule? Markle wouldn't be "light skinned" unless one of her parents were White.

    In prior times she would have tried to pass as White. Now in Clown World, that becomes "Black."

    The reality doesn't change.

    In truth virtually all lighter skinned "blacks" have some non black parentage or ancestry. Either White or MENA. Go to Africa and see for yourself. American "blacks" seldom look like actual Africans.
    , @R.G. Camara
    @Discordiax


    I’m going to guess you don’t follow stupid tabloid entertainment, but a light-skinned black woman actress Megan Markle literally married a Prince of England (the second son, not the heir
     
    She's not passing at all. She's been describing herself as "black" forever and her mother is black. On what planet do you think "passing as white" is the same as "openly proclaiming you are black"?
  76. @Achmed E. Newman

    ... making sure bisexuals don’t fall through the cracks...
     
    OK, come on!!

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter

    C’mon man! You beat me to my Beavis ‘n’ Butthead fifteen seconds of fame.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    "Hehehe, hehe, hehehe, she said cracks."

    Don't worry, Jim Bob. I'm sure there's still a cornholio joke in here somewhere.

  77. @Discordiax
    @R.G. Camara

    "The “passing” phenomenon is, historically, a lot more secret wish fantasy than reality. Many black girls (especially lighter-skinned ones) dreamed of a Cinderella moment where they would show up at a ball with just the right lighting and dress and makeup and some rich white dude would instantly be smitten with them."

    I'm going to guess you don't follow stupid tabloid entertainment, but a light-skinned black woman actress Megan Markle literally married a Prince of England (the second son, not the heir).

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Jonathan Mason, @Muggles, @R.G. Camara

    Not sure I would call the marriage of the son of England’s next king “tabloid entertainment.” And Meghan would be better described as a dark skinned white girl, given that she’s clearly more than 50% white

    • Agree: gandydancer
  78. @Discordiax
    "Interesting how lesbians are violently victimized by women at a higher rate than straight women are violently victimized by men."

    Counterintuitive data from surveys always says "look closer." How many of those "lesbians" experienced DV from a man, which is a big reason that they're lesbians now?

    Second counterquestion: Are those numbers an artifact of greater DV, or of different cultural groups classifying more things as DV? Young folks these days are liable to say things like "The way he looked at me, the tone in his voice just had such a violent energy, I was terrified. I felt attacked." Are those "folx" more likely to report loud arguments as domestic violence? This is less likely to be the explanation, as the story says "rape, stalking, intimate partner violence." But we should examine--"are words violence" before we assume that reported violence is, y'know, violence.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Hapalong Cassidy

    Well if they were beaten into lesbianism by men, they weren’t lesbians at the time the beatings started, so they don’t count.

    I’d prefer to skip your pretzel logic and go straight to my source– a lesbian cop that I know who also moonlights a few extra part time hours as an EMT.

  79. It may not be saying much but Sinema has more balls than emasculated Manchin who can always be depended to eventually cave in!

  80. @JohnnyWalker123
    We did it, guys. We normalized fascism.

    https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1452732441035255817

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Stephen Paul Foster, @Almost Missouri, @Erik L, @Bugg, @duncsbaby

    Isn’t calling everything you disagree with “lies” kinda fascist or at least fascist adjacent?

  81. Our country is bogged down with this crap, while in the mean time, we can’t fix our roads or perform any of the other functions a nation needs to perform in order to keep going as a country.

  82. @Charon

    Bisexual women are constantly told we’re untrustworthy
     
    Constantly being the word of choice for females online who are retailing a story they pretty much made up. Good to see it's spread to the MSM.

    Mind you, the perfidy of lesbians is a matter of some notoriety and I do not dispute that. But they're constantly being told? Nope, just more perfidy.

    Replies: @G. Poulin, @Alfa158, @Jmaie, @SunBakedSuburb

    I also think that’s untrue, but bisexual women are telling the truth about straight people constantly wanting to touch their hair. They find it quite exhausting.

  83. @Sean

    In general, countless social science studies have found that bis are bad news
     
    Yes , if you don't like the woman on top, and aren't man enough to get her to do it the traditional way.

    It’s almost as bisexual women tend to be too sluttish and focused on their short term pleasures to defer gratification.
     
    Like men you mean?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “Like men you mean?”

    Maybe. Do 30% of US men live below the poverty line?

    (I don’t agree with Steve on that, mind, female bisexuality is pretty common whether expressed or not – perhaps it’s expressed more among the poor? I only know the UK, but there’s two big groups of poor women here who might be more likely to dabble – single mother on council estate and single arty/SJW student type still sharing a house in the city at 35)

  84. 69 comments at the time I’m writing this…..nice.

    It’s entertaining to see how addled she is making her radical base, ignoring them as they relentless hound her in bathrooms and airports. Borderlines cannot stand to be ignored!

  85. In the days before the era of modern medicine giving birth was always a life-threatening event, so it was natural that some women of distinguished families entered convents as to avoid the marriage trap and a potential early death.

    The problem with the life of celibacy was that she didn’t get a lot of sex, and it would have been natural for the nuns to lend each other a hand or a tongue for a bit of sexy fun, and then to tantalize the priests at confession time with the details.

    And if a really rich man came calling, they could always cast off the habit like Julie Andrews in The Sound of Music.

    But bisexuality is not really a thing. When a pair of women claim to have a baby, it is either adopted, artificially inseminated, or else one of the women has been being heterosexual.

    Instead of claiming to be bisexual, women should just admit that they like mutual masturbation with other women and be done with it.

    At least Sintema has come clean about this kinky little habit, but if she decides to marry a billionaire, she can always change her mind.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Jonathan Mason

    But bisexuality is not really a thing. When a pair of women claim to have a baby, it is either adopted, artificially inseminated, or else one of the women has been being heterosexual.

    If not yet,then in a couple of years, this will be enough to get you charged with transphobic hate speech in Dear Old Blighty.

  86. @Arclight
    As with any out of the mainstream community, proponents reflexively list a litany of negative outcomes associated with it as though these things just randomly happen to people with their identity rather than being a direct product of it. Trans, bisexual, non-binary, etc. are generally people with mental health issues and casting about for a socially acceptable 'community' is trying to get at an itch they cannot scratch.

    Also I laughed out loud when this author, after decrying unfair stereotypes about bisexuals, then goes on to say that Sinema embodies those very stereotypes. How can that be? To the extent I ever think about bisexuals - which is hardly ever - my impression is for men it's gays that occasionally hook up with gay-loving women, and women who are bad at relationships and rarely really date anyone.

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    I had a friend in the 80’s who was bisexual. Now, she did not “identify” that way, but that’s how she lived. Her life revolved around cigarettes, alcohol, and drugs. The others that she hooked up with, male and female, were also drug users. They had steady parties that involved lots of drinking and drug-taking (speed, pot, cocaine, whatever) and then there might be some hooking up. What a life!

    why were we friends? Because I was the “clean” friend, around whom she could be normal and sober. I thought I could change her, but alas, she died much too young.

  87. @Discordiax
    @R.G. Camara

    "The “passing” phenomenon is, historically, a lot more secret wish fantasy than reality. Many black girls (especially lighter-skinned ones) dreamed of a Cinderella moment where they would show up at a ball with just the right lighting and dress and makeup and some rich white dude would instantly be smitten with them."

    I'm going to guess you don't follow stupid tabloid entertainment, but a light-skinned black woman actress Megan Markle literally married a Prince of England (the second son, not the heir).

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Jonathan Mason, @Muggles, @R.G. Camara

    Meghan Markle is the new Sally Hemings, and her story has already been made into a pantomime!

    Oh, yes it has!

  88. @Anonymous



    https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/01/03/USAT/7e785744-3d59-4010-99e0-b05871801f96-Congress015.JPG
    https://i0.wp.com/www.independentsentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/sinema.jpg

     

    She’s too sexy to be a dyke.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Frank McGar, @Alfa158, @The Alarmist, @AnotherDad, @Alden

    There’s usually two types of lesbians: there’s the real dykes, who are generally not appealing to men at all and don’t want to be (think Rosie O’Donnell, Ellen, Rachel Maddow); then there’s the bisexuals, who became bi after a series of failed (and/or abusive) relationships with men. Hot bisexual women are always appealing in theory, but they are often trainwrecks in real life.

  89. I never heard of this gal. Was she ever involved with the “throuple”?

    School officials really need to do more to make first grade classrooms hospitable for six year old lesbians.

  90. @Rob
    Is bisexuality that rare for women on the left? Don’t something like 30-40-50% of young (then under 30, now under 40) liberal or very liberal women identify as bisexual?

    I wonder about Sinema. Did some LoeTacks billionaire see the populist tack the Republicans were taking, and decide to buy a “Democratic” Senatoratrix? Or is the Republican party so unpopular with the recently post-college white women class from which he fishes for mistresses that he has to bankroll a “Democrat”?

    It flummoxes me that the political party for which “starve the beast,” whereby the federal government borrows so much money that it, after at least 40 years, who knows how many more, can no longer pay for “guns and butter” will one day decide that it prefers the warfare state to the welfare state? The “starve the beast thing was such party-line Republicanism that it made the Wall Street Journal editorial page. How did that party ever get the reputation as the fiscally responsible one?

    Leave aside that, in the words of Michael Scott, for a billionaire to favor fiscal failure of the USG is “cutting off your nose to spider face.” Actually, no. Let’s not leave that aside. Why do billionaires, most of whom are billionaires off fiscal shenanigans, think that getting the hardnosed “realist” types into “kill the speculators and Jews” mode of thinking is a good idea?

    Surely, after 40-odd years of failing to outgrow the deficit, and knowing that, should the dice be recast, the current billionaires are unlikely to come up with all boxcars again, surely they should think that taxes now are better than dissolution later?

    Replies: @Wilkey

    The irony being that Republicans, Trumpists and RINOs alike, are all for lower cap gains and estate taxes on billionaires precisely at the time when billionaires are ever more unrepresentative of the American people, ethnically speaking. Asians are a growing share. Jews are up to around 40% of them. Increasingly they live in the big coastal cities, not the heartland. And even those who are more ethnically similar to the average American don’t really care about their co-ethnics all that much. The political causes and charitable causes they support simply don’t align.

    The first “conservative” thing Republicans did when Bush was elected was cut taxes on the rich, including estate taxes. It was also just about the last “conservative” thing they did. They spent the rest of his eight years refusing to fight in the culture wars and flooding the country with immigrants, legal and illegal – and pushing for citizenship for the millions of illegals already here.

    People vote for conservatives because they want to conserve what is good about this country. That is the root word of conservative. And yet the RINO half of the GOP did everything they could to guarantee that would be a losing battle. The people who care more about controlling immigration and winning the culture war didn’t get a damn thing. But they sure were happy to let them have their tax cuts.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @Wilkey

    Both parties are controlled by billionaires these days.

    Billionaires want tax cuts, government contracts and bailouts, business-friendly regulations, and cheap labor.

    Pretty much the sum total of both political parties in the 21st Century has been those four items.

    Consider the near collapse of the economy in 2008.

    There was a real estate bubble made possible by mass immigration, looser banking regulations, and tougher bankruptcy restrictions (the prime offender for the last being Joe Biden).

    When the bubble burst, candidate Obama signaled to the banks he would take care of them by choosing Biden as his running mate. So the banks got their bailouts while we peasants got nothing.

    Obama’s betrayal of the working class led to Trump being elected. Trump’s biggest accomplishment was blowing up the deficit to give more tax cuts to the rich.

    And so people turned to Biden, who is clearly not up to the job either.

    This is one reason I fear either a left or right wing authoritarian dictatorship. The center isn’t holding.

    Replies: @Rob

  91. Oh my God, a Centrist — the political act that dare not speak its name

  92. @Anonymous



    https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/01/03/USAT/7e785744-3d59-4010-99e0-b05871801f96-Congress015.JPG
    https://i0.wp.com/www.independentsentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/sinema.jpg

     

    She’s too sexy to be a dyke.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Frank McGar, @Alfa158, @The Alarmist, @AnotherDad, @Alden

    I don’t know about her, she has kind of a crazy-ex-girlfriend vibe. I would steer clear of her if I was still single.
    Also, bit of advice for the younger single guys; don’t get involved with bisexual women just because you think that they will get you into threesomes with another bisexual woman. Yes, it’s a fantastic ride when it does happen, but don’t count on it. Most women, even if bi, only want to be with one other person at a time, and you just end up with a girlfriend who is more likely to have a flaky personality.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Alfa158

    "threesomes ... Yes, it's a fantastic ride when it happens"

    Two women means twice the cuddling. Not fantastic at all.

    , @Jack Armstrong
    @Alfa158

    YOLO!

  93. @Charon

    Bisexual women are constantly told we’re untrustworthy
     
    Constantly being the word of choice for females online who are retailing a story they pretty much made up. Good to see it's spread to the MSM.

    Mind you, the perfidy of lesbians is a matter of some notoriety and I do not dispute that. But they're constantly being told? Nope, just more perfidy.

    Replies: @G. Poulin, @Alfa158, @Jmaie, @SunBakedSuburb

    Mind you, the perfidy of lesbians is a matter of some notoriety

    Hadn’t heard this before (and it’s not true for the lesbians I now personally). As the joke goes:

    Q: What do lesbians do on their second date
    A: House hunting

    • Replies: @Corn
    @Jmaie

    You remember the accompanying joke about gay men?

    Q. What do gay men bring on a second date?

    A. What second date?

    Replies: @Alden

  94. @Roger
    " it feels fair to wish she’d put a little more effort into being a bit less of a stereotype."

    I think that about a lot of people.

    The gays and lesbian like to argue that they are "born that way." What do the bisexuals say?

    Replies: @Paul Mendez, @NOTA

    The gays and lesbian like to argue that they are “born that way.” What do the bisexuals say?

    A lesbian once told me, “You were born straight. I was born gay. I’m OK with that. But bisexuals are just perverts.”

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Paul Mendez

    Monopolists are always against any market development that reduces barriers to entry.

  95. Bisexual-American is my new favorite type of Hyphenated American.

  96. @El Dato
    @HammerJack

    Whenever you listen to Tucker, you listen with Rammstein

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph-CA_tu5KA

    Replies: @Harpagornis

    I appreciated the ants and the frisson of marching jackboots at the beginning of the song.

    When the Left listens to Tucker they imagine this /pol/ approved version of Rammstein’s Deutschland:



    Video Link

    The blatant Hitler worship / anti-Semitism confirms their suspicions while the inserted video fragments are in-your-face illustrations of Tucker’s recent talking points.

  97. @Joe S.Walker
    I think bisexuality doesn't really exist, by and large. There are basically straight men who'll do some things with guys if they can't get anything better (i.e. female), and lesbians who've realised that calling yourself a lesbian turns off almost all normal women.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Paul Mendez

    Having known (not in the biblical sense!) two bisexual women, I’d say they simply have a very high sex drive combined with a very flexible definition of who is an acceptable partner. One was married, both were into swinging, so part of it might have been keeping their husband/boyfriend happy.

    I read somewhere that bi women have had, on average, sex with more different men than the average straight woman.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Paul Mendez


    Having known (not in the biblical sense!) two bisexual women, I’d say they simply have a very high sex drive combined with a very flexible definition of who is an acceptable partner. One was married, both were into swinging, so part of it might have been keeping their husband/boyfriend happy.
     
    By definition, bisexual means you get twice the sexual opportunities, so twice the sex. Unless you look awful on purpose, such as purple hair or conspicuous nose ring or extensive tattoos and piercings.
    , @Jack Armstrong
    @Paul Mendez

    Nutty and slutty.

    http://www.marketingmagafrica.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/nuttyimg4.jpg

  98. @anonymous
    @Clyde

    Quite something that Sinema and her fellow rogue Democrat Senator Joe Manchin have pivotal status as key resistance against the worst in US lawmaking

    Flighty bi-sexual females hint to the male brain that a fantasy threesome f-f-m is not out of the question, she likely knows and makes use of this

    Kyrsten Sinema is indeed tops for political fashion splash... e.g,, Kyrsten in thigh-high boots, or as quasi-goth schoolgirl
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyCbErpU0AAE01D?format=jpg
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNo_U7PTGzk

    Replies: @Clyde

    Kyrsten Sinema is indeed tops for political fashion splash… e.g,, Kyrsten in thigh-high boots, or as quasi-goth schoolgirl
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyCbErpU0AAE01D?format=jpg

    Hahaha..my laughs for today! I like her video too. Kyrsten Sinema is a performance artist who just happens to be a US Senator. Nancy Pelosi hates her but says nothing due to KS’ bisexual female status. I see no Congress critters or Senators giving KS a hard time as she blocks Biden/Congress crazy spending. KS is too 45 year old hot to handle safely, you will only come out w egg on your face. As food and gasoline inflation sets in, partly due to mad Federal Covid19 spending and mad budget proposals. I saw another jump at the pumps today.
    AOC age 32
    KS age 45

  99. @R.G. Camara
    @Jack Armstrong

    The "passing" phenomenon is, historically, a lot more secret wish fantasy than reality. Many black girls (especially lighter-skinned ones) dreamed of a Cinderella moment where they would show up at a ball with just the right lighting and dress and makeup and some rich white dude would instantly be smitten with them.

    It's a fantasy that sold a lot of skin whitening cream.

    Some probably had a whole M. Butterfly fantasy where they would hide their color with good makeup, correct tones in colors, and constantly keeping themselves in dark shadows for the rest of their lives.

    Probably a lot of alleged "passers" made up some tall tales to amaze their darker-skinned relatives and friends in the country (and in the black community, lighter-skinned females love to rub their lighter skin in the noses of darker ones) and then scuttled back off to cities where black men could wine them and dine them.

    Replies: @Discordiax, @TWS, @Truth, @gandydancer, @NOTA

    Passing for white was very real in Indian and black communities until at least the second half of the 20th century. I can’t imagine a reason for it now.

  100. @The Alarmist
    She’s not the only one confused about which team she plays for ...

    Lesbians feel pressured into having sex with trans women over fears of being branded 'transphobic' while those who refuse face death threats, claim activists

    Jennie, a lesbian who is only attracted to women who are biologically female, says she has been described as transphobic, a genital fetishist, a pervert and a 'terf' - a trans exclusionary radical feminist.

    She told the BBC: 'I've had someone saying they would rather kill me than Hitler.

    'They said they would strangle me with a belt if they were in a room with me and Hitler. That was so bizarrely violent, just because I won't have sex with trans women.

     

    source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10132311/Some-lesbians-feel-pressured-sex-trans-women-fears-branded-transphobic.html

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Bardon Kaldian, @El Dato, @TWS

    It’s like they just can’t help reinforcing every stereotype.

  101. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Altai


    Almost nobody is actually bisexual in any meaningful sense.
     
    No, that's not true. There are plenty of such people in history. As had been said about Alcibiades: ‘When he was a young boy he lured husbands away from their wives, but when he was a young man he lured wives away from their husbands’

    And then Marlene Dietrich, Greta Garbo, Andre Gide, Alfred Kinsey, Colette, Laurence Olivier, ....

    Replies: @Altai, @Joe Stalin, @nebulafox

    Catherine Deneuve, known for lesbian dalliances, so beautiful they made her Marianne, to represent France.

    Absolutely gorgeous at age 20.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Joe Stalin

    Really? I didn't know about Catherine Deneuve. Well, well .....

    , @Lockean Proviso
    @Joe Stalin

    I read the plot on wikipedia and apparently there's plenty of cultural subversion on offer:

    - If a girl gets knocked up outside marriage, there'll be "a kind, young, very wealthy Parisian jeweler who wants to marry her despite her pregnancy.". Yes, alpha men are just lining up to wed gals pregnant with another mans baby, so it'll turn out okay regardless of if the baby daddy is around.

    - If a man knocks up a young woman, he should ignore her and refuse to be involved with the child

    - American corporate franchises (aka GloboHomo) in other countries are the route to happiness

    Some of these might be true in cases where the individuals are very attractive and/or talented, but as general romantic notions held by average people they're not conducive to either personal happiness or a stable society.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    , @Alden
    @Joe Stalin

    Source? She was all mixed up with degenerate commie earthly representative of Satan Louis Brunel So I’m not surprised.

    Only women I’ve ever seen more beautiful than my Nordic goddess mother in law when MIL was in her early 40’s. Watch Girls of Rochefort. Katrine her mother and sister Danielle? in n the same movie.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

  102. @Paul Mendez
    @Joe S.Walker

    Having known (not in the biblical sense!) two bisexual women, I’d say they simply have a very high sex drive combined with a very flexible definition of who is an acceptable partner. One was married, both were into swinging, so part of it might have been keeping their husband/boyfriend happy.

    I read somewhere that bi women have had, on average, sex with more different men than the average straight woman.

    Replies: @Clyde, @Jack Armstrong

    Having known (not in the biblical sense!) two bisexual women, I’d say they simply have a very high sex drive combined with a very flexible definition of who is an acceptable partner. One was married, both were into swinging, so part of it might have been keeping their husband/boyfriend happy.

    By definition, bisexual means you get twice the sexual opportunities, so twice the sex. Unless you look awful on purpose, such as purple hair or conspicuous nose ring or extensive tattoos and piercings.

  103. @Jack Armstrong
    iSteve are you going to review this film?

    Becky Hall’s Passing praised to high heaven by Alexandra Kleeman in NYT mag …


    The Secret Toll of Racial Ambiguity

    Rebecca Hall’s new film adaptation of the 1929 novel “Passing” has cracked open a public conversation about colorism and privilege.
     


    Hall’s film has cracked open a public conversation about colorism, privilege and secrets. On Twitter, people are sharing stories and black-and-white photographs of a grandmother’s cousins who moved out of state, great-aunts who sneaked back to see their family in secret, relatives who lost their jobs when co-workers informed management about their identities: a public airing of what in Hall’s family was once closely held. Recently one of her mother’s sisters reached out: She said that they never really had language to understand the hidden context that shaped their family, and she thanked her for giving it to them.
     
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/20/magazine/rebecca-hall-passing.html

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/6a7b4ebb3108c279cc6c12bc0fac22851453e289/0_161_1952_1690/master/1952.jpg?width=620&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=6ca4030cd4ba94e714de540c2ef09cac

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @R.G. Camara, @Currahee, @Hibernian

    My god, those smiles are pure Halloween!

  104. @Mr. Anon
    Sinema's bisexuality seems a bit contrived. She's a not-unattractive blonde, which makes her an attractive candidate. Her looks make her attractive to men. Her putative bisexuality makes her REALLY attractive to men, who think that lesbians look like the lesbians in Penthouse.

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Corn, @John Johnson

    90% of bisexual women:

    Woman that fooled around with a girl in college and now add it as a label to make themselves more sexually alluring.

    Women just aren’t that into women even if they would like to be. I used to work public events and lesbians were the most miserable creatures. Gay men would be having fun while the lesbians mostly gave us glares as if we were waiting for the right moment to hit on their 250lb butch husband.

    Homosexuality on TV and in real life are completely different affairs. Most lesbians are really just women that don’t attract men and use another woman as a substitute. It’s not ‘by chance’ that so many are butch. They attract bottom of the barrel men and aren’t happy about it.

  105. I’m hoping Sinema and Manchin decide to leave the Dems and join Andrew Yang’s new party.

  106. @Discordiax
    "Interesting how lesbians are violently victimized by women at a higher rate than straight women are violently victimized by men."

    Counterintuitive data from surveys always says "look closer." How many of those "lesbians" experienced DV from a man, which is a big reason that they're lesbians now?

    Second counterquestion: Are those numbers an artifact of greater DV, or of different cultural groups classifying more things as DV? Young folks these days are liable to say things like "The way he looked at me, the tone in his voice just had such a violent energy, I was terrified. I felt attacked." Are those "folx" more likely to report loud arguments as domestic violence? This is less likely to be the explanation, as the story says "rape, stalking, intimate partner violence." But we should examine--"are words violence" before we assume that reported violence is, y'know, violence.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Hapalong Cassidy

    “How many of those “lesbians” experienced DV from a man, which is a big reason that they’re lesbians now?“

    It’s very interesting that there are so many instances of women becoming lesbian because of bad experiences with men. But you never hear about straight guys turning gay because of bad experiences with women.

    • Replies: @Obstinate Cymric
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    "you never hear about straight guys turning gay because of bad experiences with women"

    I fear that this may no longer be true for very young men (say 14-18) who have no father figure and who girls of their age ignore. It's quite possible that where once a late developer may just have bitten the bullet of celibacy until a girl IS interested, now there are gay dating sites, available on their phone, where their SMV is through the roof. An 18 year old boy who looks 13 is of no interest to most girls of 18, but of great interest to a lot of gay men.

    I've got no data on this, but it sounds quite possible. The impact of the smartphone and of absent fathers is yet to be fully documented.

    Replies: @Lockean Proviso

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Hapalong Cassidy


    It’s very interesting that there are so many instances of women becoming lesbian because of bad experiences with men. But you never hear about straight guys turning gay because of bad experiences with women.
     
    I knew a guy who had no friends.

    Then he became gay and now he has friends up the a**.

    Ba-dum!
  107. Bi women are constantly told we’re untrustworthy, that our attraction to multiple genders means we’re more likely to cheat. We’re called greedy for finding more than one gender attractive, “confusing” for liking more than one gender and self-absorbed because apparently our brains are unable to think about much beyond our own sexual gratification. Within the LGBTQ community, bisexuals can be viewed as fair-weather members at best — likely to bail the second we stop having fun.

    Hmm…sounds interesting, and also sounds about right? Yes?

    Where do these folks hang out? Let’s go and investigate.

    It’s an in and out burger for those who like to kiss them, but also kiss them goodbye.

  108. @Clyde
    Kyrsten Sinema has that Van Halen, naughty school teacher look. If she worked on her Instagram with this, she will never lose an Arizona election. I like the way she's been throwing wrenches into the works. The Dem leadership is peeved at this rebel bisexual. Anyways, if she is so bisexual, how come no photos of her cute young girlfriend? Those stale, pale, male, John Cornyn Republicans in Congress salivate after AOC. (Fact!)
    Kyrsten of Dune, Arizona is on their list too.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Anon

    She is incredibly slutty looking hot. Amazing for a middle aged woman

    • LOL: northeast
    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Anon


    She is incredibly slutty looking hot. Amazing for a middle aged woman.
     
    For our Kyrsten, bisexuality is the fountain of youth, perkiness and hotness. She must be in the gym every day. Kudos for torpedoing the Democrat agenda of crazed spending.
  109. @Anonymous



    https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/01/03/USAT/7e785744-3d59-4010-99e0-b05871801f96-Congress015.JPG
    https://i0.wp.com/www.independentsentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/sinema.jpg

     

    She’s too sexy to be a dyke.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Frank McGar, @Alfa158, @The Alarmist, @AnotherDad, @Alden

    Same could have been said about Anne Heche….


    Did she use Ellen, did she switch teams, or is she really Bi?

    She and Senatrx Sinema might make a cute couple now that she’s separated.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @The Alarmist


    Did she use Ellen, did she switch teams, or is she really Bi?
     
    I think she used Ellen.

    Check out what happens to Anne's film and TV career around 1997, when she and Ellen officially began their relationship:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Heche#Filmography

    Not bad for a gal from a little town in NE Ohio...not bad at all...
  110. Does anybody take anything NBC publishes seriously anymore?? If they aren’t bashing whitey or licking the boots of orcs they’re writing nonsense like this garbage. Hopefully all of this negative attention from leftist loons galvanizes this blond bubblehead against them.

  111. @M. Person
    Alptraum means nightmare in German.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @HammerJack, @The Alarmist, @Truth

    Well…

  112. @Steve Sailer
    @Jack Armstrong

    Actress Rebecca Hall is the daughter of Sir Peter Hall, the great English stage director, and an African-American opera soprano. The article makes the implausible claim that Rebecca didn't really know her mother was part black when she clearly looked black in photographs.

    Why didn't Hall play one of the sisters who can pass for white in her movie? She personally can pass, so she'd be a natural for a role.

    Replies: @Truth, @gandydancer

    She personally can pass,

    for white, or for female?

  113. @R.G. Camara
    @Jack Armstrong

    The "passing" phenomenon is, historically, a lot more secret wish fantasy than reality. Many black girls (especially lighter-skinned ones) dreamed of a Cinderella moment where they would show up at a ball with just the right lighting and dress and makeup and some rich white dude would instantly be smitten with them.

    It's a fantasy that sold a lot of skin whitening cream.

    Some probably had a whole M. Butterfly fantasy where they would hide their color with good makeup, correct tones in colors, and constantly keeping themselves in dark shadows for the rest of their lives.

    Probably a lot of alleged "passers" made up some tall tales to amaze their darker-skinned relatives and friends in the country (and in the black community, lighter-skinned females love to rub their lighter skin in the noses of darker ones) and then scuttled back off to cities where black men could wine them and dine them.

    Replies: @Discordiax, @TWS, @Truth, @gandydancer, @NOTA

    The “passing” phenomenon is, historically, a lot more secret wish fantasy than reality. Many black girls (especially lighter-skinned ones) dreamed of a Cinderella moment where they would show up at a ball with just the right lighting and dress and makeup and some rich white dude would instantly be smitten with them.

    It’s a fantasy that sold a lot of skin whitening cream.

    Yeah, ridiculous. They probably should have suntanned…

    https://www.hiphollywood.com/2017/11/before-meghan-markle-6-black-women-who-married-european-royals/

  114. @Charon

    Bisexual women are constantly told we’re untrustworthy
     
    Constantly being the word of choice for females online who are retailing a story they pretty much made up. Good to see it's spread to the MSM.

    Mind you, the perfidy of lesbians is a matter of some notoriety and I do not dispute that. But they're constantly being told? Nope, just more perfidy.

    Replies: @G. Poulin, @Alfa158, @Jmaie, @SunBakedSuburb

    “the perfidy of lesbians is a matter of some notoriety”

    Certainly true of the Lipsticks who read the room and shape-shift accordingly.

  115. Is it too much to ask that people not advertise their sexual proclivities or claim perversion somehow makes them more capable?

  116. @Alfa158
    @Anonymous

    I don’t know about her, she has kind of a crazy-ex-girlfriend vibe. I would steer clear of her if I was still single.
    Also, bit of advice for the younger single guys; don’t get involved with bisexual women just because you think that they will get you into threesomes with another bisexual woman. Yes, it’s a fantastic ride when it does happen, but don’t count on it. Most women, even if bi, only want to be with one other person at a time, and you just end up with a girlfriend who is more likely to have a flaky personality.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Jack Armstrong

    “threesomes … Yes, it’s a fantastic ride when it happens”

    Two women means twice the cuddling. Not fantastic at all.

  117. Interesting how lesbians are violently victimized by women at a higher rate than straight women are violently victimized by men.

    Women commit more domestic violence than men. There’s little social pressure against it, men barely report it and there’s normally no punishment. So of course they do.

    As for the supposedly greater social problems of bisexual women, I bet that is just an artifact of more black women in the US identifying as bisexual or something like that. Or post-prison identification.

  118. @countenance
    All this because she has the audacity not to vote for a bill.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Muggles

    All this because she has the audacity not to vote for a bill.

    Yes, of course.

    She could be LBGTQ+ with a few extra tweaks thrown in (if you can think of one) but the fascist left progs don’t really care.

    You toe the Party Line or are viciously attacked for being some sort of traitor. No, not “principled” or open minded or any of the lovely accolades bestowed when some squishy GOP type deviates from the norm, no, none of that.

    You are instead pilloried with the nastiest lies they can invent. “Crazy bisexual!” (Who knew? Not me.)

    The only time I ever felt any sympathy for the (now sainted) Ruth Bader Ginsburg was after she had the gall to not resign/quit while Obama was still President. Then she had the nerve to die while Trump was in office! Imagine that!

    She evidently believed the MSM baloney that Hillary was a shoo-in. So after Trump appointed her replacement she was demonized as a selfish witch who sacrificed Feminist Purity for her own selfish needs. The young female Twitter mob took out their verbal knives on her.

    Ha! So she actually did something good. So the one good thing RBG did was to keep working regardless who who might win a future election. Better start smashing those statues of her they erected in those Women’s Studies dining halls.

  119. @Discordiax
    @R.G. Camara

    "The “passing” phenomenon is, historically, a lot more secret wish fantasy than reality. Many black girls (especially lighter-skinned ones) dreamed of a Cinderella moment where they would show up at a ball with just the right lighting and dress and makeup and some rich white dude would instantly be smitten with them."

    I'm going to guess you don't follow stupid tabloid entertainment, but a light-skinned black woman actress Megan Markle literally married a Prince of England (the second son, not the heir).

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Jonathan Mason, @Muggles, @R.G. Camara

    I’m going to guess you don’t follow stupid tabloid entertainment, but a light-skinned black woman actress Megan Markle literally married a Prince of England (the second son, not the heir)

    Why do you call Markle “a light skinned black woman actress” when she is merely a biracial (or to use the older term, mulatto) actress?

    Do you follow the one-drop rule? Markle wouldn’t be “light skinned” unless one of her parents were White.

    In prior times she would have tried to pass as White. Now in Clown World, that becomes “Black.”

    The reality doesn’t change.

    In truth virtually all lighter skinned “blacks” have some non black parentage or ancestry. Either White or MENA. Go to Africa and see for yourself. American “blacks” seldom look like actual Africans.

  120. OT: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-issues-first-passport-with-x-gender-marker/ar-AAQ16Sx

    priorities! Our State Dept. let in tens of thousands of Afghanis with no vetting, no ID but they are on top of this one. Passports with no biological sex.

  121. @Altai
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Among men, among women, the majority of people you'd find who identified that way in surveys today would just be young women with BPD. Most 'bisexual' women today are not really attracted to their own sex. Same thing is happening with FtM trans, people imagine most of them are lesbians but that isn't the case anymore and a lot of the ones who 'identified' as lesbian realise afterwards that they just had a complex about having the female role in sex and relationships once they 'transition'.

    This is borne out by the survey in the piece, those sounds like the problems of women with BPD. 'Bisexual' in the survey was a status contaminated by straight women with BPD.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Triteleia Laxa

    It is a cliche that repressed and narcissistic people see borderline people everywhere, especially in the other sex or other race or other sexuality. The inverse is also a cliche.

  122. As a

    Anything after that can be safely ignored. The old-fashioned idea of intelligent discourse was that we tried to talk about things outside ourselves because that’s the only way to arrive at what’s true objectively. Anything discussed “as a…” is is going to be emotional biased crap, necessarily.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
  123. @JimDandy
    @Anon

    A Ph.D. in justice studies from Arizona State. I'll bet that thesis is mindblowing.

    Replies: @Barnard

    Definitely not going to read 250 pages of this, but she blames the current problems in Rwanda on the German and Belgians for their colonial presence there. At a quick glance, the writing does appear to be of a higher quality than the work Dr. Jill Biden turned in for a EDd.

    https://repository.asu.edu/items/14837

  124. @Paul Mendez
    @Joe S.Walker

    Having known (not in the biblical sense!) two bisexual women, I’d say they simply have a very high sex drive combined with a very flexible definition of who is an acceptable partner. One was married, both were into swinging, so part of it might have been keeping their husband/boyfriend happy.

    I read somewhere that bi women have had, on average, sex with more different men than the average straight woman.

    Replies: @Clyde, @Jack Armstrong

    Nutty and slutty.

  125. @Wilkey
    @Rob

    The irony being that Republicans, Trumpists and RINOs alike, are all for lower cap gains and estate taxes on billionaires precisely at the time when billionaires are ever more unrepresentative of the American people, ethnically speaking. Asians are a growing share. Jews are up to around 40% of them. Increasingly they live in the big coastal cities, not the heartland. And even those who are more ethnically similar to the average American don't really care about their co-ethnics all that much. The political causes and charitable causes they support simply don't align.

    The first "conservative" thing Republicans did when Bush was elected was cut taxes on the rich, including estate taxes. It was also just about the last "conservative" thing they did. They spent the rest of his eight years refusing to fight in the culture wars and flooding the country with immigrants, legal and illegal - and pushing for citizenship for the millions of illegals already here.

    People vote for conservatives because they want to conserve what is good about this country. That is the root word of conservative. And yet the RINO half of the GOP did everything they could to guarantee that would be a losing battle. The people who care more about controlling immigration and winning the culture war didn't get a damn thing. But they sure were happy to let them have their tax cuts.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    Both parties are controlled by billionaires these days.

    Billionaires want tax cuts, government contracts and bailouts, business-friendly regulations, and cheap labor.

    Pretty much the sum total of both political parties in the 21st Century has been those four items.

    Consider the near collapse of the economy in 2008.

    There was a real estate bubble made possible by mass immigration, looser banking regulations, and tougher bankruptcy restrictions (the prime offender for the last being Joe Biden).

    When the bubble burst, candidate Obama signaled to the banks he would take care of them by choosing Biden as his running mate. So the banks got their bailouts while we peasants got nothing.

    Obama’s betrayal of the working class led to Trump being elected. Trump’s biggest accomplishment was blowing up the deficit to give more tax cuts to the rich.

    And so people turned to Biden, who is clearly not up to the job either.

    This is one reason I fear either a left or right wing authoritarian dictatorship. The center isn’t holding.

    • Agree: Jonathan Mason
    • Replies: @Rob
    @Paleo Liberal

    I’m more frightened of a right-wing one, myself. The left-wing is, in their minds at least, on track to total Democratic control. There are a ton of Latinx activists who thinks that means them in power, drafting legislation for hotel workers to more easily unionize. It does not mean them, and the people who own the permanent government are not about to let unions milk the business class. Not to mention, hotels could be in for a world of hurt, if this whole “sell from home” thing gets a life of its own. Business people who have to travel do not much like traveling. Anyone that the corporation trusts with x million/sale is responsible enough that he has a pretty wife and happy(ish) kids in a good neighborhood. He has to leave them for umpteen days a week, a few weeks every month. Inside sales are a thing.

    The left, being disparate peoples, the college-educated neo-liberal whites, all sorts of blacks, and the unassimilated, lower ability Latinos, government workers, and Asians do not have much asabiya, which everyone reading this probably knows means something like group-spiritedness or solidarity. Once whites are a permanent (or not) minority, then no one will want to listen to the college whites, but that’s where the brains are. They are happy with the country, I think it’s just the great American bust out, and they will not be so well off when China decides there’s no more tech to transfer. What’s left? Intel, biotech, and pharma? But due to cargo cult, activist “science” and Grinese chaduate students, a huge amount of biomedical research was wasted, still is. Pharma was given quite a deal, report only what research they wanted, and the FDA gives them a license. Then medicare pays whatever price they set. But are the new drugs better than the old ones? Without good research. Pretty sure we have a lot of optics, but China is moving quickly. Are we so sure they cannot figure out “make up some sounds. Advertise that those sounds mean quality. Then, do not melamine in your baby formula. Pay the factory managers enough that they do not cut the product with cheaper poisons.” Once the Chinese figure that out, the vaunted superiority of corporate America goes bye-bye. Remember when there was no way the Japanese could produce TVs as good as whatever the brands were back then, I am too lazy to google? Remember when GM made most of the world’s cars?

    I digress. I do wonder if, once whites are no longer the electoral majority, will the progs stop immigration? It’s hard to justify adding more mouths, more citizens to receive a dividend when automation and AI have eliminated a huge chunk of currently-existing jobs.

    But right-wingers are a people. If they didn’t feel like one before Trump, calling them deplorable sure made them feel like a group. Plus, the right-wing has an economic vision that is not crazy. Countries did okay with manufacturing as the basis for creating wealth. The simple fact is that, at some point, we will either manufacture more and sell it to China and other nations, or we will be a third-world country for a lot of Americans. Maybe that die is cast, already. On social issues, besides homosexuality, the right, the base, not the establishment, has reality on its side. Temperaments, interests, and aptitudes, along with IQ are heritable. On race, we are already facing reality. There are psychological differences between the sexes. There are social issues where the right is wrong. Vaccination is the one most salient currently. A right-wing tyranny will not have a very healthy populace, I fear.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

  126. @Alfa158
    @Anonymous

    I don’t know about her, she has kind of a crazy-ex-girlfriend vibe. I would steer clear of her if I was still single.
    Also, bit of advice for the younger single guys; don’t get involved with bisexual women just because you think that they will get you into threesomes with another bisexual woman. Yes, it’s a fantastic ride when it does happen, but don’t count on it. Most women, even if bi, only want to be with one other person at a time, and you just end up with a girlfriend who is more likely to have a flaky personality.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Jack Armstrong

    YOLO!

  127. @Steve Sailer
    @Jack Armstrong

    Actress Rebecca Hall is the daughter of Sir Peter Hall, the great English stage director, and an African-American opera soprano. The article makes the implausible claim that Rebecca didn't really know her mother was part black when she clearly looked black in photographs.

    Why didn't Hall play one of the sisters who can pass for white in her movie? She personally can pass, so she'd be a natural for a role.

    Replies: @Truth, @gandydancer

    Actress Rebecca Hall is the daughter of Sir Peter Hall, the great English stage director…

    Neither of you mention it, but those are her parents in Armstrong’s photo.

  128. @R.G. Camara
    @Jack Armstrong

    The "passing" phenomenon is, historically, a lot more secret wish fantasy than reality. Many black girls (especially lighter-skinned ones) dreamed of a Cinderella moment where they would show up at a ball with just the right lighting and dress and makeup and some rich white dude would instantly be smitten with them.

    It's a fantasy that sold a lot of skin whitening cream.

    Some probably had a whole M. Butterfly fantasy where they would hide their color with good makeup, correct tones in colors, and constantly keeping themselves in dark shadows for the rest of their lives.

    Probably a lot of alleged "passers" made up some tall tales to amaze their darker-skinned relatives and friends in the country (and in the black community, lighter-skinned females love to rub their lighter skin in the noses of darker ones) and then scuttled back off to cities where black men could wine them and dine them.

    Replies: @Discordiax, @TWS, @Truth, @gandydancer, @NOTA

    Not entirely a fantasy. Rebecca Hall looks pretty white to me. As does Markle. “Black” looks may persist at lower genetic levels than, say, Australian aboriginal (referring to a previous conversation here) but attempts to apply a “one drop” rule are as stupid as Jews on the Brain.

  129. @AndrewR
    @Joe S.Walker

    A fully straight man might be ok with getting some head from a guy, but I imagine most won't. I think most self-described incels are fully straight because otherwise they would just download Grindr instead of crying about hypergamy all the time. It is much easier for a man to hookup with another man than to hook up with a woman. This is especially true of men below the 85th percentile of attractiveness

    Frankly, as open hypergamy intensifies, I imagine many more men will turn to gay sex because utter celibacy is often intolerable for some people.

    Replies: @Corn

    I certainly hope not. We’ll be more like the Arab world. There polygamy/sharia keeps women away from many men so you have a lot of “down low” sex or assault. I’d hate to think the same thing happens here because women are chasing the top 20%

  130. Because it’s a slippery term whose relationship to reality is hard to pin down, “bisexual” is one of those things that gets me thinking about nominalism vs. realism. And that gets me even more confused.

    Richard Weaver famously traced the crisis of our times to the growth of nominalism, but I’m not sure he got it quite right. Most of the problems we have today seem to be with nominalists who are quite convinced that they are realists.

    It’s one thing to say, as a nominalist would, that things like sexuality and gender are “socially constructed.” But most militant activists don’t actually assert this. They dogmatically insist that a man who calls himself a woman is an actual woman, or that “gay,” “straight,” “bisexual” and “genderfluid” are actual, rigorously definable human categories. They insist on these things as actual rock-solid facts, facts as real as the chair I’m sitting in.

    At least that’s how I understand it. That’s the whole reason their claims arouse so much controversy. They are making radical realist claims, not radical nominalist claims (or more specifically, they are attempting to defend nominalist claims on radical realist grounds, while denying the nominalist genealogy of those claims).

    Am I missing something here?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Blank

    Transubstantiation.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

  131. @Jmaie
    @Charon


    Mind you, the perfidy of lesbians is a matter of some notoriety
     
    Hadn't heard this before (and it's not true for the lesbians I now personally). As the joke goes:

    Q: What do lesbians do on their second date
    A: House hunting

    Replies: @Corn

    You remember the accompanying joke about gay men?

    Q. What do gay men bring on a second date?

    A. What second date?

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Corn

    LOL so true so true.

  132. @JohnnyWalker123
    We did it, guys. We normalized fascism.

    https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1452732441035255817

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Stephen Paul Foster, @Almost Missouri, @Erik L, @Bugg, @duncsbaby

    “Hasan was born in Swindon, Wiltshire, in South West England, to immigrant Indian Hyderabadi Muslim parents from the city of Hyderabad in Andhra Pradesh, South India.[11][12][13] His father, Raza Hasan, is an engineer.”

    DON’T MENTION THE GREAT REPLACEMENT, SAYS A REPLACEMENT.

  133. @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Discordiax

    “How many of those “lesbians” experienced DV from a man, which is a big reason that they’re lesbians now?“

    It’s very interesting that there are so many instances of women becoming lesbian because of bad experiences with men. But you never hear about straight guys turning gay because of bad experiences with women.

    Replies: @Obstinate Cymric, @Jim Don Bob

    “you never hear about straight guys turning gay because of bad experiences with women”

    I fear that this may no longer be true for very young men (say 14-18) who have no father figure and who girls of their age ignore. It’s quite possible that where once a late developer may just have bitten the bullet of celibacy until a girl IS interested, now there are gay dating sites, available on their phone, where their SMV is through the roof. An 18 year old boy who looks 13 is of no interest to most girls of 18, but of great interest to a lot of gay men.

    I’ve got no data on this, but it sounds quite possible. The impact of the smartphone and of absent fathers is yet to be fully documented.

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
    @Obstinate Cymric

    Older women- cougars- would be an option to form relationships and give these young men some validation, confidence, and experience which would make them more attractive to younger women as they get older, thus more likely to marry and form families than to be bitter, aging, and lonely homosexuals, often with diseases and drug problems.

    Replies: @Obstinate Cymric

  134. @Joe Stalin
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Catherine Deneuve, known for lesbian dalliances, so beautiful they made her Marianne, to represent France.

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d1/64/59/d1645971cf2b01d754e00e5d37e971f3.jpg

    Absolutely gorgeous at age 20.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5AJUkDcLIU

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Lockean Proviso, @Alden

    Really? I didn’t know about Catherine Deneuve. Well, well …..

  135. @Anonymous



    https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/01/03/USAT/7e785744-3d59-4010-99e0-b05871801f96-Congress015.JPG
    https://i0.wp.com/www.independentsentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/sinema.jpg

     

    She’s too sexy to be a dyke.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Frank McGar, @Alfa158, @The Alarmist, @AnotherDad, @Alden

    This sort of “fashion” nonsense is hardly restricted to Sinema or bi-sexual women. It is utterly common among a huge fraction of hetero women.

    The feminist line was–at least originally–that women could do what men do and were more than ready to shoulder the same responsibilities as men. But a good slice of them, given even a bit of responsibility can’t even project a tiny bit of sobriety. Given the chance they just can’t resist the “hey look at me!”

    In contrast, when it comes to actual thought … most of them avidly conform to whatever received “wisdom” girl talk TV is pumping out.

    The whole exercise has demonstrated why–warts and all, and yeah there have been lots of warts–“the patriarchy” was in charge of every successful civilization in human history. (No doubt the Chinese have watched this shit show and figured this out.)

  136. @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Discordiax

    “How many of those “lesbians” experienced DV from a man, which is a big reason that they’re lesbians now?“

    It’s very interesting that there are so many instances of women becoming lesbian because of bad experiences with men. But you never hear about straight guys turning gay because of bad experiences with women.

    Replies: @Obstinate Cymric, @Jim Don Bob

    It’s very interesting that there are so many instances of women becoming lesbian because of bad experiences with men. But you never hear about straight guys turning gay because of bad experiences with women.

    I knew a guy who had no friends.

    Then he became gay and now he has friends up the a**.

    Ba-dum!

  137. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Anon

    All that alphabet soup, and she's still a moron. She had to be past age 30 before she ever had a real job. Professional students/credentialists seem never to understand that in order to be effective, sooner or later you have to get kicked in the teeth a little by Life. So many leftists spend their time outraged and apoplectic about why the whole country doesn't resemble their pleasant little college town.

    As for legislators, I think the only degree requirement should be the degree from UCLA: the University on the Corner of Lexington Avenue.

    Replies: @Currahee, @fish, @kaganovitch

    As for legislators, I think the only degree requirement should be the degree from UCLA: the University on the Corner of Lexington Avenue.

    Bloomingdale’s ?

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @kaganovitch

    Hunter College (68th Street subway stop on the 4-5-6)?

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  138. @Charon
    @ScarletNumber

    Also, if we elect more martians, we can get more thoughtful legislation that addresses martian-specific concerns.

    What on earth are we waiting for??!

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    What on earth are we waiting for??!

    Elon Musk?

  139. @Jonathan Mason
    In the days before the era of modern medicine giving birth was always a life-threatening event, so it was natural that some women of distinguished families entered convents as to avoid the marriage trap and a potential early death.

    The problem with the life of celibacy was that she didn't get a lot of sex, and it would have been natural for the nuns to lend each other a hand or a tongue for a bit of sexy fun, and then to tantalize the priests at confession time with the details.

    And if a really rich man came calling, they could always cast off the habit like Julie Andrews in The Sound of Music.

    But bisexuality is not really a thing. When a pair of women claim to have a baby, it is either adopted, artificially inseminated, or else one of the women has been being heterosexual.

    Instead of claiming to be bisexual, women should just admit that they like mutual masturbation with other women and be done with it.

    At least Sintema has come clean about this kinky little habit, but if she decides to marry a billionaire, she can always change her mind.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    But bisexuality is not really a thing. When a pair of women claim to have a baby, it is either adopted, artificially inseminated, or else one of the women has been being heterosexual.

    If not yet,then in a couple of years, this will be enough to get you charged with transphobic hate speech in Dear Old Blighty.

  140. @Altai
    Bisexual is another way of saying "I have BPD", most of them who claim aren't even attracted to their own sex. Almost nobody is actually bisexual in any meaningful sense.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Art Deco, @Mike Tre

    Attractive females use the bisexual label as an attention seeking device almost exclusively.

  141. @Discordiax
    @R.G. Camara

    "The “passing” phenomenon is, historically, a lot more secret wish fantasy than reality. Many black girls (especially lighter-skinned ones) dreamed of a Cinderella moment where they would show up at a ball with just the right lighting and dress and makeup and some rich white dude would instantly be smitten with them."

    I'm going to guess you don't follow stupid tabloid entertainment, but a light-skinned black woman actress Megan Markle literally married a Prince of England (the second son, not the heir).

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Jonathan Mason, @Muggles, @R.G. Camara

    I’m going to guess you don’t follow stupid tabloid entertainment, but a light-skinned black woman actress Megan Markle literally married a Prince of England (the second son, not the heir

    She’s not passing at all. She’s been describing herself as “black” forever and her mother is black. On what planet do you think “passing as white” is the same as “openly proclaiming you are black”?

  142. Bisexual women are told they are untrustworthy at least as often as black women’s hair is molested by curious white women.

  143. @Paleo Liberal
    @Wilkey

    Both parties are controlled by billionaires these days.

    Billionaires want tax cuts, government contracts and bailouts, business-friendly regulations, and cheap labor.

    Pretty much the sum total of both political parties in the 21st Century has been those four items.

    Consider the near collapse of the economy in 2008.

    There was a real estate bubble made possible by mass immigration, looser banking regulations, and tougher bankruptcy restrictions (the prime offender for the last being Joe Biden).

    When the bubble burst, candidate Obama signaled to the banks he would take care of them by choosing Biden as his running mate. So the banks got their bailouts while we peasants got nothing.

    Obama’s betrayal of the working class led to Trump being elected. Trump’s biggest accomplishment was blowing up the deficit to give more tax cuts to the rich.

    And so people turned to Biden, who is clearly not up to the job either.

    This is one reason I fear either a left or right wing authoritarian dictatorship. The center isn’t holding.

    Replies: @Rob

    I’m more frightened of a right-wing one, myself. The left-wing is, in their minds at least, on track to total Democratic control. There are a ton of Latinx activists who thinks that means them in power, drafting legislation for hotel workers to more easily unionize. It does not mean them, and the people who own the permanent government are not about to let unions milk the business class. Not to mention, hotels could be in for a world of hurt, if this whole “sell from home” thing gets a life of its own. Business people who have to travel do not much like traveling. Anyone that the corporation trusts with x million/sale is responsible enough that he has a pretty wife and happy(ish) kids in a good neighborhood. He has to leave them for umpteen days a week, a few weeks every month. Inside sales are a thing.

    [MORE]

    The left, being disparate peoples, the college-educated neo-liberal whites, all sorts of blacks, and the unassimilated, lower ability Latinos, government workers, and Asians do not have much asabiya, which everyone reading this probably knows means something like group-spiritedness or solidarity. Once whites are a permanent (or not) minority, then no one will want to listen to the college whites, but that’s where the brains are. They are happy with the country, I think it’s just the great American bust out, and they will not be so well off when China decides there’s no more tech to transfer. What’s left? Intel, biotech, and pharma? But due to cargo cult, activist “science” and Grinese chaduate students, a huge amount of biomedical research was wasted, still is. Pharma was given quite a deal, report only what research they wanted, and the FDA gives them a license. Then medicare pays whatever price they set. But are the new drugs better than the old ones? Without good research. Pretty sure we have a lot of optics, but China is moving quickly. Are we so sure they cannot figure out “make up some sounds. Advertise that those sounds mean quality. Then, do not melamine in your baby formula. Pay the factory managers enough that they do not cut the product with cheaper poisons.” Once the Chinese figure that out, the vaunted superiority of corporate America goes bye-bye. Remember when there was no way the Japanese could produce TVs as good as whatever the brands were back then, I am too lazy to google? Remember when GM made most of the world’s cars?

    I digress. I do wonder if, once whites are no longer the electoral majority, will the progs stop immigration? It’s hard to justify adding more mouths, more citizens to receive a dividend when automation and AI have eliminated a huge chunk of currently-existing jobs.

    But right-wingers are a people. If they didn’t feel like one before Trump, calling them deplorable sure made them feel like a group. Plus, the right-wing has an economic vision that is not crazy. Countries did okay with manufacturing as the basis for creating wealth. The simple fact is that, at some point, we will either manufacture more and sell it to China and other nations, or we will be a third-world country for a lot of Americans. Maybe that die is cast, already. On social issues, besides homosexuality, the right, the base, not the establishment, has reality on its side. Temperaments, interests, and aptitudes, along with IQ are heritable. On race, we are already facing reality. There are psychological differences between the sexes. There are social issues where the right is wrong. Vaccination is the one most salient currently. A right-wing tyranny will not have a very healthy populace, I fear.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @Rob

    You have a point.

    I lived in NYC for a while from early 80s to 2001, with a couple of years in other parts of the country mixed in.

    I remember the 1985 mayoral race. Ed Koch was considered too conservative for the lefties. The lefties were supposed to put together a coalition of blacks, Hispanics and white progressives. The supposition was that Congressman Herman Badillo of the Bronx would be the coalition candidate. He was a very competent fellow who probably would have been a good mayor.

    Trouble is, the African American contingent decided they should have a mayor first. So a complete non-entity named Denny Farrell joined the race as well. So then a white progressive, Carol Bellamy, joined the race. Badillo dropped out. Bellamy and Ferrell lost the primary but Bellamy was on the Liberal Party line, and came in second with under 20% of the vote in the general election. A token Republican got under 10%. Koch got over 70%.

    Four years later the progressive coalition put forth David Dinkins as their candidate. He beat Koch in the primary and Giuliani in the general election. Dinkins managed to drive away enough Jewish, Hispanic, Asian and white gentile votes to lose the re-election. Progressives were shut out for the next 20 years, until the execrable de blah blah blah took office. He is being replaced by a black fellow who has a ton of support by moderate whites.

    So I see your point. The right wing is a family of sorts. A badly dysfunctional family, but a family. The left is not. Non-black lefties, including me, turned on Dinkins when he proved incompetent and corrupt. OTOH Trump is incompetent and corrupt and autocratic and the right still loves the guy.

    Replies: @Hibernian

  144. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Wilkey

    A former girlfriend had a six-month lesbian affair with a rather scary butch type. She said that every boy she went out with afterwards (small town, people knew) wanted as much detail as possible on what they got up to in bed.

    Replies: @Shouting Thomas, @Herzog, @Bill Jones, @Alden

    Couldn’t they figure it out?

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Alden

    "Couldn’t they figure it out?"

    I don't know for certain, but I got the impression they wanted the details whispered in their ear during intimate moments ;-)

  145. @Jack Armstrong
    iSteve are you going to review this film?

    Becky Hall’s Passing praised to high heaven by Alexandra Kleeman in NYT mag …


    The Secret Toll of Racial Ambiguity

    Rebecca Hall’s new film adaptation of the 1929 novel “Passing” has cracked open a public conversation about colorism and privilege.
     


    Hall’s film has cracked open a public conversation about colorism, privilege and secrets. On Twitter, people are sharing stories and black-and-white photographs of a grandmother’s cousins who moved out of state, great-aunts who sneaked back to see their family in secret, relatives who lost their jobs when co-workers informed management about their identities: a public airing of what in Hall’s family was once closely held. Recently one of her mother’s sisters reached out: She said that they never really had language to understand the hidden context that shaped their family, and she thanked her for giving it to them.
     
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/20/magazine/rebecca-hall-passing.html

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/6a7b4ebb3108c279cc6c12bc0fac22851453e289/0_161_1952_1690/master/1952.jpg?width=620&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=6ca4030cd4ba94e714de540c2ef09cac

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @R.G. Camara, @Currahee, @Hibernian

    An Italian woman, a Hispanic woman, and an Italian man.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Hibernian


    An Italian woman, a Hispanic woman, and an Italian man...

     

    ...went into una bottega del caffè...



    https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-p/0c/4c/85/2c/crazy-cat-cafe.jpg
    , @gandydancer
    @Hibernian


    An Italian woman, a Hispanic woman, and an Italian man.
     
    Wrong. A white woman, her black mother, and her white father.

    Race fluidity.

    Replies: @Hibernian

  146. @Anonymous



    https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/01/03/USAT/7e785744-3d59-4010-99e0-b05871801f96-Congress015.JPG
    https://i0.wp.com/www.independentsentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/sinema.jpg

     

    She’s too sexy to be a dyke.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Frank McGar, @Alfa158, @The Alarmist, @AnotherDad, @Alden

    Not my style. But it’s a change from black pantsuits with white blouses or T shirts and black pants with black tops. That’s probably why whoever hates her hates her. She wears skirts and dresses.

  147. @Roger
    " it feels fair to wish she’d put a little more effort into being a bit less of a stereotype."

    I think that about a lot of people.

    The gays and lesbian like to argue that they are "born that way." What do the bisexuals say?

    Replies: @Paul Mendez, @NOTA

    They’re born both ways?

    I knew a bunch of women in college who were biaexual in theory, but most of them ended up married to men in pretty standard marriages. Maybe at maximum-attractiveness-and-horniness age, a wider range of potential partners seemed appealing? Dunno.

    I also have a friend who was in a decade long relationship with a man, and then left him for a woman. As far as I can tell, she’s always found men and women about equally attractive.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @NOTA

    I knew a bunch of women in college who were bisexual in theory, but most of them ended up married to men in pretty standard marriages. Maybe at maximum-attractiveness-and-horniness age, a wider range of potential partners seemed appealing? Dunno.

    Women are just more likely to experiment with another woman or pair up with one temporarily. I watched a show where a woman and a guy pick up women and it was surprising as to how many women accepted even though they had never done anything like that before. This would never work the same way on men.

    The problem I have with the term bisexual is that it implies that lesbians are completely gay. How do we know this? Because they poll as such?

    Yea well a lot these lesbians hate or resent men and as such are not going to admit being sexually attracted to them.

    The gay community accepts the divorced lesbian after 40 phenomenon......so they were gay that entire time? Yea not buying it.

    Too many red flags here. The dedicated lesbians just happen to look more like Rosie O' Donnell. Hmm funny that.

  148. @R.G. Camara
    @Jack Armstrong

    The "passing" phenomenon is, historically, a lot more secret wish fantasy than reality. Many black girls (especially lighter-skinned ones) dreamed of a Cinderella moment where they would show up at a ball with just the right lighting and dress and makeup and some rich white dude would instantly be smitten with them.

    It's a fantasy that sold a lot of skin whitening cream.

    Some probably had a whole M. Butterfly fantasy where they would hide their color with good makeup, correct tones in colors, and constantly keeping themselves in dark shadows for the rest of their lives.

    Probably a lot of alleged "passers" made up some tall tales to amaze their darker-skinned relatives and friends in the country (and in the black community, lighter-skinned females love to rub their lighter skin in the noses of darker ones) and then scuttled back off to cities where black men could wine them and dine them.

    Replies: @Discordiax, @TWS, @Truth, @gandydancer, @NOTA

    I think lighter skin is a marker of femininity somehow–skin whitener is apparently a big business in India, for example, and it’s not like many of those women trying to hook a rich white man. OTOH, white women go to tanning salons, so maybe it’s just human nature to want to change what you’ve got.

  149. @Ganderson
    @Mr. Anon

    “Her putative bisexuality makes her REALLY attractive to men, who think that lesbians look like the lesbians in Penthouse”

    “Her putative bisexuality makes her REALLY attractive to men, who WISH that lesbians look like the lesbians in Penthouse”

    FIFY

    Replies: @NOTA

    What’s the point in wishing for more smokin hot women who aren’t interested in men?

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @NOTA

    The relevant thought is something like “I could change ‘em”

  150. @Hibernian
    @Jack Armstrong

    An Italian woman, a Hispanic woman, and an Italian man.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @gandydancer

    An Italian woman, a Hispanic woman, and an Italian man…

    …went into una bottega del caffè…

  151. @The Alarmist
    @Anonymous

    Same could have been said about Anne Heche....


    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-B8499QjQCrE/UwxXTaHQDWI/AAAAAAAADPk/h7FTMtHcVLM/s1600/Anne+Heche.jpg

    Did she use Ellen, did she switch teams, or is she really Bi?

    https://i1.wp.com/wikibioworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Anne-Heche-Husband-and-children.jpg

    She and Senatrx Sinema might make a cute couple now that she’s separated.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    Did she use Ellen, did she switch teams, or is she really Bi?

    I think she used Ellen.

    Check out what happens to Anne’s film and TV career around 1997, when she and Ellen officially began their relationship:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Heche#Filmography

    Not bad for a gal from a little town in NE Ohio…not bad at all…

  152. @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Achmed E. Newman

    C'mon man! You beat me to my Beavis 'n' Butthead fifteen seconds of fame.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    “Hehehe, hehe, hehehe, she said cracks.”

    Don’t worry, Jim Bob. I’m sure there’s still a cornholio joke in here somewhere.

  153. @Rob
    @Paleo Liberal

    I’m more frightened of a right-wing one, myself. The left-wing is, in their minds at least, on track to total Democratic control. There are a ton of Latinx activists who thinks that means them in power, drafting legislation for hotel workers to more easily unionize. It does not mean them, and the people who own the permanent government are not about to let unions milk the business class. Not to mention, hotels could be in for a world of hurt, if this whole “sell from home” thing gets a life of its own. Business people who have to travel do not much like traveling. Anyone that the corporation trusts with x million/sale is responsible enough that he has a pretty wife and happy(ish) kids in a good neighborhood. He has to leave them for umpteen days a week, a few weeks every month. Inside sales are a thing.

    The left, being disparate peoples, the college-educated neo-liberal whites, all sorts of blacks, and the unassimilated, lower ability Latinos, government workers, and Asians do not have much asabiya, which everyone reading this probably knows means something like group-spiritedness or solidarity. Once whites are a permanent (or not) minority, then no one will want to listen to the college whites, but that’s where the brains are. They are happy with the country, I think it’s just the great American bust out, and they will not be so well off when China decides there’s no more tech to transfer. What’s left? Intel, biotech, and pharma? But due to cargo cult, activist “science” and Grinese chaduate students, a huge amount of biomedical research was wasted, still is. Pharma was given quite a deal, report only what research they wanted, and the FDA gives them a license. Then medicare pays whatever price they set. But are the new drugs better than the old ones? Without good research. Pretty sure we have a lot of optics, but China is moving quickly. Are we so sure they cannot figure out “make up some sounds. Advertise that those sounds mean quality. Then, do not melamine in your baby formula. Pay the factory managers enough that they do not cut the product with cheaper poisons.” Once the Chinese figure that out, the vaunted superiority of corporate America goes bye-bye. Remember when there was no way the Japanese could produce TVs as good as whatever the brands were back then, I am too lazy to google? Remember when GM made most of the world’s cars?

    I digress. I do wonder if, once whites are no longer the electoral majority, will the progs stop immigration? It’s hard to justify adding more mouths, more citizens to receive a dividend when automation and AI have eliminated a huge chunk of currently-existing jobs.

    But right-wingers are a people. If they didn’t feel like one before Trump, calling them deplorable sure made them feel like a group. Plus, the right-wing has an economic vision that is not crazy. Countries did okay with manufacturing as the basis for creating wealth. The simple fact is that, at some point, we will either manufacture more and sell it to China and other nations, or we will be a third-world country for a lot of Americans. Maybe that die is cast, already. On social issues, besides homosexuality, the right, the base, not the establishment, has reality on its side. Temperaments, interests, and aptitudes, along with IQ are heritable. On race, we are already facing reality. There are psychological differences between the sexes. There are social issues where the right is wrong. Vaccination is the one most salient currently. A right-wing tyranny will not have a very healthy populace, I fear.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    You have a point.

    I lived in NYC for a while from early 80s to 2001, with a couple of years in other parts of the country mixed in.

    [MORE]

    I remember the 1985 mayoral race. Ed Koch was considered too conservative for the lefties. The lefties were supposed to put together a coalition of blacks, Hispanics and white progressives. The supposition was that Congressman Herman Badillo of the Bronx would be the coalition candidate. He was a very competent fellow who probably would have been a good mayor.

    Trouble is, the African American contingent decided they should have a mayor first. So a complete non-entity named Denny Farrell joined the race as well. So then a white progressive, Carol Bellamy, joined the race. Badillo dropped out. Bellamy and Ferrell lost the primary but Bellamy was on the Liberal Party line, and came in second with under 20% of the vote in the general election. A token Republican got under 10%. Koch got over 70%.

    Four years later the progressive coalition put forth David Dinkins as their candidate. He beat Koch in the primary and Giuliani in the general election. Dinkins managed to drive away enough Jewish, Hispanic, Asian and white gentile votes to lose the re-election. Progressives were shut out for the next 20 years, until the execrable de blah blah blah took office. He is being replaced by a black fellow who has a ton of support by moderate whites.

    So I see your point. The right wing is a family of sorts. A badly dysfunctional family, but a family. The left is not. Non-black lefties, including me, turned on Dinkins when he proved incompetent and corrupt. OTOH Trump is incompetent and corrupt and autocratic and the right still loves the guy.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Paleo Liberal


    Progressives were shut out for the next 20 years...
     
    Yea, Mike Bloomberg was a regular latter day Bill Buckley.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

  154. Haven’t read any comments, but after reading the thread heading, the thing that comes to mind is;

    Isn’t playing for both teams the definition of “bi-sexual”?

    An explanation would be appreciated.

  155. Sinema is holding herself out as the 51st no vote on a bill she campaigned on passing. Democrats assumed her sexual orientation meant she’d be a reliable leftist, just like Katie Hill.

  156. @Joe Stalin
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Catherine Deneuve, known for lesbian dalliances, so beautiful they made her Marianne, to represent France.

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d1/64/59/d1645971cf2b01d754e00e5d37e971f3.jpg

    Absolutely gorgeous at age 20.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5AJUkDcLIU

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Lockean Proviso, @Alden

    I read the plot on wikipedia and apparently there’s plenty of cultural subversion on offer:

    – If a girl gets knocked up outside marriage, there’ll be “a kind, young, very wealthy Parisian jeweler who wants to marry her despite her pregnancy.”. Yes, alpha men are just lining up to wed gals pregnant with another mans baby, so it’ll turn out okay regardless of if the baby daddy is around.

    – If a man knocks up a young woman, he should ignore her and refuse to be involved with the child

    – American corporate franchises (aka GloboHomo) in other countries are the route to happiness

    Some of these might be true in cases where the individuals are very attractive and/or talented, but as general romantic notions held by average people they’re not conducive to either personal happiness or a stable society.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Lockean Proviso


    – American corporate franchises (aka GloboHomo) in other countries are the route to happiness
     
    A YT video I saw shows the American gas station at the end today is now an empty lot... lots of ruin in the future.

    – If a girl gets knocked up outside marriage,
     
    I recall reading some sort of 'Catholic' organization actually recommended the movie at the time.

    – If a man knocks up a young woman, he should ignore her and refuse to be involved with the child
     
    Watch the movie and see if your impression matches that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDTc9KT5C3s

    CD showed up with her sister (RIP) in a 1967 movie.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZFK8svwtxA

    https://m4uhd.tv/watch-movie-the-young-girls-of-rochefort-1967-247751.html

  157. @JohnnyWalker123
    We did it, guys. We normalized fascism.

    https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1452732441035255817

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Stephen Paul Foster, @Almost Missouri, @Erik L, @Bugg, @duncsbaby

    Hey, if Mehdi Hasan is saying that the Great Replacement is a nutty conspiracy theory, that’s good enough for me.

  158. @Obstinate Cymric
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    "you never hear about straight guys turning gay because of bad experiences with women"

    I fear that this may no longer be true for very young men (say 14-18) who have no father figure and who girls of their age ignore. It's quite possible that where once a late developer may just have bitten the bullet of celibacy until a girl IS interested, now there are gay dating sites, available on their phone, where their SMV is through the roof. An 18 year old boy who looks 13 is of no interest to most girls of 18, but of great interest to a lot of gay men.

    I've got no data on this, but it sounds quite possible. The impact of the smartphone and of absent fathers is yet to be fully documented.

    Replies: @Lockean Proviso

    Older women- cougars- would be an option to form relationships and give these young men some validation, confidence, and experience which would make them more attractive to younger women as they get older, thus more likely to marry and form families than to be bitter, aging, and lonely homosexuals, often with diseases and drug problems.

    • Agree: Obstinate Cymric
    • Replies: @Obstinate Cymric
    @Lockean Proviso

    Good idea, but from my very limited knowledge of dating sites, there are age filters and the like which would render our 18 year old incels invisible to the 35-45 cougar demographic.

  159. @Mr. Blank
    Because it's a slippery term whose relationship to reality is hard to pin down, "bisexual" is one of those things that gets me thinking about nominalism vs. realism. And that gets me even more confused.

    Richard Weaver famously traced the crisis of our times to the growth of nominalism, but I'm not sure he got it quite right. Most of the problems we have today seem to be with nominalists who are quite convinced that they are realists.

    It's one thing to say, as a nominalist would, that things like sexuality and gender are "socially constructed." But most militant activists don't actually assert this. They dogmatically insist that a man who calls himself a woman is an actual woman, or that "gay," "straight," "bisexual" and "genderfluid" are actual, rigorously definable human categories. They insist on these things as actual rock-solid facts, facts as real as the chair I'm sitting in.

    At least that's how I understand it. That's the whole reason their claims arouse so much controversy. They are making radical realist claims, not radical nominalist claims (or more specifically, they are attempting to defend nominalist claims on radical realist grounds, while denying the nominalist genealogy of those claims).

    Am I missing something here?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Transubstantiation.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Steve Sailer


    Transubstantiation.

     

    Nice.

    And yes, these claims are essentially theological, falling within the ambit of the Doctrine of Man.

  160. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Blank

    Transubstantiation.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    Transubstantiation.

    Nice.

    And yes, these claims are essentially theological, falling within the ambit of the Doctrine of Man.

  161. @Hibernian
    @Jack Armstrong

    An Italian woman, a Hispanic woman, and an Italian man.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @gandydancer

    An Italian woman, a Hispanic woman, and an Italian man.

    Wrong. A white woman, her black mother, and her white father.

    Race fluidity.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @gandydancer

    I understand. I was just saying what I would think if I saw them in Chicago, without knowing who they are. I'd further add that likely the woman on the left is Florentine and the man Sicilian.

  162. @Jim Don Bob
    I kinda doubt she gets hit on too much by guys...

    https://collectivespeakers.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Lux-Alptraum-Photo-Credit-Ellen-Stagg3.jpg

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    Definitely not Thee Most Exalted Potentate of Love:

  163. @NOTA
    @Roger

    They're born both ways?

    I knew a bunch of women in college who were biaexual in theory, but most of them ended up married to men in pretty standard marriages. Maybe at maximum-attractiveness-and-horniness age, a wider range of potential partners seemed appealing? Dunno.

    I also have a friend who was in a decade long relationship with a man, and then left him for a woman. As far as I can tell, she's always found men and women about equally attractive.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    I knew a bunch of women in college who were bisexual in theory, but most of them ended up married to men in pretty standard marriages. Maybe at maximum-attractiveness-and-horniness age, a wider range of potential partners seemed appealing? Dunno.

    Women are just more likely to experiment with another woman or pair up with one temporarily. I watched a show where a woman and a guy pick up women and it was surprising as to how many women accepted even though they had never done anything like that before. This would never work the same way on men.

    The problem I have with the term bisexual is that it implies that lesbians are completely gay. How do we know this? Because they poll as such?

    Yea well a lot these lesbians hate or resent men and as such are not going to admit being sexually attracted to them.

    The gay community accepts the divorced lesbian after 40 phenomenon……so they were gay that entire time? Yea not buying it.

    Too many red flags here. The dedicated lesbians just happen to look more like Rosie O’ Donnell. Hmm funny that.

  164. @Paul Mendez
    @Roger


    The gays and lesbian like to argue that they are “born that way.” What do the bisexuals say?
     
    A lesbian once told me, “You were born straight. I was born gay. I’m OK with that. But bisexuals are just perverts.”

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    Monopolists are always against any market development that reduces barriers to entry.

  165. @kaganovitch
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    As for legislators, I think the only degree requirement should be the degree from UCLA: the University on the Corner of Lexington Avenue.

    Bloomingdale's ?

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    Hunter College (68th Street subway stop on the 4-5-6)?

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Gary in Gramercy

    Nah, my interpretation would embrace AOC, while your's would exclude her. Think of the loss to the Republic!

  166. @Lockean Proviso
    @Obstinate Cymric

    Older women- cougars- would be an option to form relationships and give these young men some validation, confidence, and experience which would make them more attractive to younger women as they get older, thus more likely to marry and form families than to be bitter, aging, and lonely homosexuals, often with diseases and drug problems.

    Replies: @Obstinate Cymric

    Good idea, but from my very limited knowledge of dating sites, there are age filters and the like which would render our 18 year old incels invisible to the 35-45 cougar demographic.

  167. I think this woman is correct that it’s an old and recurring taunt, maybe especially from gays (though she’d never specify that), that bisexuals are wishy washy and not to be trusted.

    I remember years ago seeing a clip on YouTube (which I bet is no longer up) of Andrew Dice Clay doing some standup in 1984, I believe for HBO. He basically says, after making some funny and nasty digs at homosexuals, “But look, the gays are one thing. At least they’ve made their decision. But these bisexuals…[lots of laughs]…. How does that work? How do you not know what you want until you wake up that day?”

    And I remember once reading something from the gay columnist Dan Savage relating the gripes that gays apparently commonly have about bisexuals. It was more or less that, because bisexuals aren’t committed to the gay lifestyle, they can’t be trusted to stay on the ‘team’ – they can show up for the fun but melt away whenever there’s adversity, leaving ‘real’ gays to take the flak and do the work of changing attitudes.

    That resentment kind of made sense. So maybe there’s a gut-level common sense take from people of all persuasions, for different reasons, there’s something a little bit off about people who would proudly identify as bisexual.

  168. @Gary in Gramercy
    @kaganovitch

    Hunter College (68th Street subway stop on the 4-5-6)?

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Nah, my interpretation would embrace AOC, while your’s would exclude her. Think of the loss to the Republic!

  169. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Altai


    Almost nobody is actually bisexual in any meaningful sense.
     
    No, that's not true. There are plenty of such people in history. As had been said about Alcibiades: ‘When he was a young boy he lured husbands away from their wives, but when he was a young man he lured wives away from their husbands’

    And then Marlene Dietrich, Greta Garbo, Andre Gide, Alfred Kinsey, Colette, Laurence Olivier, ....

    Replies: @Altai, @Joe Stalin, @nebulafox

    After restoring the Republic and resigning the dictatorship, Lucius Cornelius Sulla forced all the bastards in the Senate to applaud as he kissed his favorite drag queen in front of them as he retired… now that’s how you do it. He then proceeded to march out of Rome with all the actors, winos, comedians, and hookers in tow, off to retirement. Not quite Cincinnatus. But original. Authentic.

    Remaining loyal to the people who were with you at the bottom at your peak and showing those who fawned over you after to know their symbolic place at the end. What a man.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
  170. @Lockean Proviso
    @Joe Stalin

    I read the plot on wikipedia and apparently there's plenty of cultural subversion on offer:

    - If a girl gets knocked up outside marriage, there'll be "a kind, young, very wealthy Parisian jeweler who wants to marry her despite her pregnancy.". Yes, alpha men are just lining up to wed gals pregnant with another mans baby, so it'll turn out okay regardless of if the baby daddy is around.

    - If a man knocks up a young woman, he should ignore her and refuse to be involved with the child

    - American corporate franchises (aka GloboHomo) in other countries are the route to happiness

    Some of these might be true in cases where the individuals are very attractive and/or talented, but as general romantic notions held by average people they're not conducive to either personal happiness or a stable society.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    – American corporate franchises (aka GloboHomo) in other countries are the route to happiness

    A YT video I saw shows the American gas station at the end today is now an empty lot… lots of ruin in the future.

    – If a girl gets knocked up outside marriage,

    I recall reading some sort of ‘Catholic’ organization actually recommended the movie at the time.

    – If a man knocks up a young woman, he should ignore her and refuse to be involved with the child

    Watch the movie and see if your impression matches that.

    CD showed up with her sister (RIP) in a 1967 movie.

    https://m4uhd.tv/watch-movie-the-young-girls-of-rochefort-1967-247751.html

    • Thanks: Lockean Proviso
  171. OT:

    Andrew Cuomo to be charged over alleged groping of former aide

    https://nypost.com/2021/10/28/andrew-cuomo-to-be-charged-over-alleged-groping-of-former-aide-source/

    • Replies: @Alden
    @epebble

    Good. If mild harassment and pestering is the only thing that can bring down the anti White politicians it’s good.

    At least he didn’t back her up against a wall and frottage her

    Replies: @epebble

  172. I would say you can’t make this stuff up but sadly you can.

  173. @Paleo Liberal
    @Rob

    You have a point.

    I lived in NYC for a while from early 80s to 2001, with a couple of years in other parts of the country mixed in.

    I remember the 1985 mayoral race. Ed Koch was considered too conservative for the lefties. The lefties were supposed to put together a coalition of blacks, Hispanics and white progressives. The supposition was that Congressman Herman Badillo of the Bronx would be the coalition candidate. He was a very competent fellow who probably would have been a good mayor.

    Trouble is, the African American contingent decided they should have a mayor first. So a complete non-entity named Denny Farrell joined the race as well. So then a white progressive, Carol Bellamy, joined the race. Badillo dropped out. Bellamy and Ferrell lost the primary but Bellamy was on the Liberal Party line, and came in second with under 20% of the vote in the general election. A token Republican got under 10%. Koch got over 70%.

    Four years later the progressive coalition put forth David Dinkins as their candidate. He beat Koch in the primary and Giuliani in the general election. Dinkins managed to drive away enough Jewish, Hispanic, Asian and white gentile votes to lose the re-election. Progressives were shut out for the next 20 years, until the execrable de blah blah blah took office. He is being replaced by a black fellow who has a ton of support by moderate whites.

    So I see your point. The right wing is a family of sorts. A badly dysfunctional family, but a family. The left is not. Non-black lefties, including me, turned on Dinkins when he proved incompetent and corrupt. OTOH Trump is incompetent and corrupt and autocratic and the right still loves the guy.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Progressives were shut out for the next 20 years…

    Yea, Mike Bloomberg was a regular latter day Bill Buckley.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @Hibernian

    By NYC standards he was not considered a progressive.

    Everything is relative. In parts of NYC and various very left wing places even I am considered conservative.

  174. @gandydancer
    @Hibernian


    An Italian woman, a Hispanic woman, and an Italian man.
     
    Wrong. A white woman, her black mother, and her white father.

    Race fluidity.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    I understand. I was just saying what I would think if I saw them in Chicago, without knowing who they are. I’d further add that likely the woman on the left is Florentine and the man Sicilian.

  175. @Hibernian
    @Paleo Liberal


    Progressives were shut out for the next 20 years...
     
    Yea, Mike Bloomberg was a regular latter day Bill Buckley.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    By NYC standards he was not considered a progressive.

    Everything is relative. In parts of NYC and various very left wing places even I am considered conservative.

  176. @Corn
    @Jmaie

    You remember the accompanying joke about gay men?

    Q. What do gay men bring on a second date?

    A. What second date?

    Replies: @Alden

    LOL so true so true.

  177. @Joe Stalin
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Catherine Deneuve, known for lesbian dalliances, so beautiful they made her Marianne, to represent France.

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d1/64/59/d1645971cf2b01d754e00e5d37e971f3.jpg

    Absolutely gorgeous at age 20.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5AJUkDcLIU

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Lockean Proviso, @Alden

    Source? She was all mixed up with degenerate commie earthly representative of Satan Louis Brunel So I’m not surprised.

    Only women I’ve ever seen more beautiful than my Nordic goddess mother in law when MIL was in her early 40’s. Watch Girls of Rochefort. Katrine her mother and sister Danielle? in n the same movie.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Alden


    Source?
     
    Can't give you a definitive source; decades back I read she had "relationships" with other females. I took that at the time as a euphemism for lesbian.

    To be fair though, she claims this to the gay press:


    People actually think you are gay ? I mean, I know lesbians hope you are, but do they actually think you are ?

    Oh, yes. If I go out with a man three times, they don't immediately say that he is my lover. But if they see me in a private situation or going on a holiday with a woman, they say, "Oh, yes, I think she is!"

    They ask you if you are a lesbian ?

    No, they don't dare ask me that to my face. Never in France, because the press is different from the way the press is here. But sometimes I can feel it.

    But you have a very public heterosexual life.

    But I don't really let people see it.

    You say you are very close with women. Where do you draw the line? Have you had moments of knowing what it would be like to be in love with another woman ?

    The word "love" means many things to me.

    Have you ever had a physical romance with a woman ?

    I cannot imagine having a physical relationship with a woman. I have not done that. But I really love women. I have a very strong relationship with a woman that I have known for a long time. I knew her for some time before I knew that she was a lesbian, but that never changed anything about my relationship with her.

    Do you know what the word closeted means ?

    To close ?

    Oh, that's interesting. Well, sort of. It's when people know they are gay, but they don't want other people to know...

    Oh, yes, yes. I understand, but in my opinion they should not be pushed. I know here in America you are very strong about publicly pushing women to openly say that they are gay, but I don't agree. I think that is wrong. I think it is very shocking.

    http://toutsurdeneuve.free.fr/Francais/Pages/Interviews_Presse9099/Advocate95.htm


     

  178. @epebble
    OT:

    Andrew Cuomo to be charged over alleged groping of former aide

    https://nypost.com/2021/10/28/andrew-cuomo-to-be-charged-over-alleged-groping-of-former-aide-source/

    Replies: @Alden

    Good. If mild harassment and pestering is the only thing that can bring down the anti White politicians it’s good.

    At least he didn’t back her up against a wall and frottage her

    • Replies: @epebble
    @Alden

    Politics of #MeToo is completed. Huma Abedin, Hillary's assistant, is holding back on naming the Senator who tried to force himself on her.

    https://www.cbs42.com/news/national/huma-abedin-former-clinton-aide-writes-in-new-book-she-was-sexually-assaulted-by-us-senator/

  179. @Anon
    @Clyde

    She is incredibly slutty looking hot. Amazing for a middle aged woman

    Replies: @Clyde

    She is incredibly slutty looking hot. Amazing for a middle aged woman.

    For our Kyrsten, bisexuality is the fountain of youth, perkiness and hotness. She must be in the gym every day. Kudos for torpedoing the Democrat agenda of crazed spending.

  180. @Alden
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Couldn’t they figure it out?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “Couldn’t they figure it out?”

    I don’t know for certain, but I got the impression they wanted the details whispered in their ear during intimate moments 😉

  181. @Alden
    @epebble

    Good. If mild harassment and pestering is the only thing that can bring down the anti White politicians it’s good.

    At least he didn’t back her up against a wall and frottage her

    Replies: @epebble

    Politics of #MeToo is completed. Huma Abedin, Hillary’s assistant, is holding back on naming the Senator who tried to force himself on her.

    https://www.cbs42.com/news/national/huma-abedin-former-clinton-aide-writes-in-new-book-she-was-sexually-assaulted-by-us-senator/

  182. @Alden
    @Joe Stalin

    Source? She was all mixed up with degenerate commie earthly representative of Satan Louis Brunel So I’m not surprised.

    Only women I’ve ever seen more beautiful than my Nordic goddess mother in law when MIL was in her early 40’s. Watch Girls of Rochefort. Katrine her mother and sister Danielle? in n the same movie.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    Source?

    Can’t give you a definitive source; decades back I read she had “relationships” with other females. I took that at the time as a euphemism for lesbian.

    To be fair though, she claims this to the gay press:

    People actually think you are gay ? I mean, I know lesbians hope you are, but do they actually think you are ?

    Oh, yes. If I go out with a man three times, they don’t immediately say that he is my lover. But if they see me in a private situation or going on a holiday with a woman, they say, “Oh, yes, I think she is!”

    They ask you if you are a lesbian ?

    No, they don’t dare ask me that to my face. Never in France, because the press is different from the way the press is here. But sometimes I can feel it.

    But you have a very public heterosexual life.

    But I don’t really let people see it.

    You say you are very close with women. Where do you draw the line? Have you had moments of knowing what it would be like to be in love with another woman ?

    The word “love” means many things to me.

    Have you ever had a physical romance with a woman ?

    I cannot imagine having a physical relationship with a woman. I have not done that. But I really love women. I have a very strong relationship with a woman that I have known for a long time. I knew her for some time before I knew that she was a lesbian, but that never changed anything about my relationship with her.

    Do you know what the word closeted means ?

    To close ?

    Oh, that’s interesting. Well, sort of. It’s when people know they are gay, but they don’t want other people to know…

    Oh, yes, yes. I understand, but in my opinion they should not be pushed. I know here in America you are very strong about publicly pushing women to openly say that they are gay, but I don’t agree. I think that is wrong. I think it is very shocking.

    http://toutsurdeneuve.free.fr/Francais/Pages/Interviews_Presse9099/Advocate95.htm

  183. @NOTA
    @Ganderson

    What's the point in wishing for more smokin hot women who aren't interested in men?

    Replies: @Ganderson

    The relevant thought is something like “I could change ‘em”

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