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From NBC News:

g uGun violence is surging in cities, and hitting communities of color hardest

Communities of color have endured the weight of COVID-19, the recession and social unrest. They’re also bearing the brunt of a surge in gun violence.
July 9, 2020, 6:51 AM PDT
By Safia Samee Ali

CHICAGO — For many major U.S. cities, this year has been marked by bullets and bloodshed.

Over 1,500 people have been shot in Chicago, almost 900 in Philadelphia, and more than 500 in New York City so far in 2020 — all up significantly from the same time last year (1,018 in Chicago, 701 in Philadelphia and 355 in New York).

The surge in shootings has been particularly painful for communities of color, which have disproportionately endured the weight of the COVID-19 crisis, the economic recession and social unrest following the death of George Floyd in police custody in Minneapolis in May.

In New York City, after the number of shooting victims more than doubled from June 2019 to this June, every person who has been shot this July, nearly 100 in total, has been a member of the minority community, according to the police department. And in June, 97 percent of the shooting victims were minorities, the department said.

In Chicago, where minority communities have long struggled with deadly gun violence, shootings have increased 76 percent from the same time last year, with nearly all the bloodshed concentrated in the city’s predominantly Black and brown communities on the South and West Sides.

… Predominantly Black neighborhoods in recent decades have averaged five times as many violent crimes as predominantly white communities, according to a 2016 study by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. …

“People who get involved in violence, many of them are financially insecure, housing insecure, food insecure — their whole life is insecure,” he said.

In Louisville, as protests persist over the death of Breonna Taylor, who was shot in her home by Louisville Metro Police Department officers in March, there has been a doubling of nonfatal shootings compared to the same time last year, and a 40 percent increase in gun deaths.

From January to May this year, almost 75 percent of homicide victims were Black, according to the Louisville Police Department.

In Philadelphia, more than 30 people were shot over the Fourth of July weekend and 23 were shot within a 24-hour period. The city has seen a nearly 30 percent jump in homicides from the same time in 2019. ,…

“The Black community lives in a state of trauma when you look at all the maladies that adversely impact them,” he said. “These communities are the most vulnerable in our society, so a lot of these social and societal ills are going to manifest there earlier and more prominently.”

Atlanta had a 20 percent spike in shootings from the same time in 2019, with one of the youngest victims being an 8-year-old girl, Secoriea Turner, who was shot while riding in a car with her mother over Fourth of July weekend. …

“If they don’t kill us,” she told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, “we’re going to kill one another. It’s sad.”

 
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  1. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:

    In a word, Darwinism, made flesh.

    Covid – A classic case of a Darwinian replicator doing its replicating thing and not giving a damn – metaphorically – about the consequences.

    Ghetto Shootings – Hard wired genetically determined behavior from an ethny which has evolved – in its natural environment – a ‘live fast, die young and copulate’ life optimal life strategy, again not giving a damn about the consequences.

  2. Arclight says:

    What a shocking turn of events.

    Seriously though, some brave academic ought to generate a way of quantifying the economic cost of various crimes and then publish the results broken down by race.

    With all the calls for reparations, I would think it would be pretty easy to demonstrate the economic effects of black crime since the civil rights era is a staggering figure that counter balances any claim of damages owed.

  3. El Dato says:

    Floyd’s death has stoked a national reckoning about policing tactics and fueled calls to defund the police and reroute funds to community and social wellness causes.

    Back in the mid 2000’s “wellness” started to be used as a marketing term to get the morbildy obese and muscleless cat ladies to start spending money without making efforts to really improve the situation. Now we have arrived at “social wellness”. Good.

    Because of police mistrust, Webster said, people may be less inclined to call 911 if they see a crime occurring. In worse cases, officers themselves could step back and be less proactive as they face public backlash, he said.

    “One thing that’s been observed in a number of cities after there is a very high profile incident of police abuse, there is a fairly substantial uprising in response to that, where you commonly do see increases in violence in communities that are most often plagued by this problem,” Webster said.

    Top explanation and meandering bullshitting, Webster. And that’s just “one thing”, mind.

    “Communities are desperate for resources, particularly at this time, and it goes beyond what a city can do. This is really a national public policy issue,” he said. “People have to ask themselves how they can help the most vulnerable affected by the pandemic and economic impact of it.”

    I don’t know Jester, I mean Webster. But yes. People _do_ have to ask themselves.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/black-anxiety-spiked-after-george-floyd-so-thanks-checking-no-ncna1231809

    I’m tired of feeling this way, but I know I likely will my entire life.

    Cool. See you later.

    • Replies: @Alden
  4. brown communities

    Seems pretty racist that ‘brown’ doesn’t have a capital letter? Although, thinking about it, isn’t describing people as brown pretty insulting in itself? Does anyone ever really want to be described as ‘brown’?

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  5. Jack D says:

    Gun violence is like the weather or tides – sometimes you get a storm surge. Those guns just get excited and start shooting at people – what can you do? It’s a double burden – first social unrest due to the death of George Floyd and now this upsurge in violence. Black communities are so unlucky in that they have suffered TWO completely unrelated tragedies in one year. Now let us turn our attention to more pressing issues, such as need to defund the police and not arrest Black people.

  6. Perhaps some common sense criminal control would help.

  7. Experts say defies easy explanation.

  8. The phrase “gun violence” is used to trick the reader into thinking that guns are to blame, which is then used to justify “gun control.”

    Rhetorical question:
    In many places, the number of shootings has tripled since last year. Has the number of guns tripled during the same period of time?

  9. Time to red flag more rural whites!
    ..and ban all guns!
    … but don’t profile POC or keep gang databases, that’s racist!

  10. theMann says:

    “Over 1,500 people have been shot in Chicago, almost 900 in Philadelphia, and more than 500 in New York City so far in 2020 — all up significantly from the same time last year (1,018 in Chicago, 701 in Philadelphia and 355 in New York).”

    Imagine what they could do to each other with artillery.

    At what point do we decide that the failure of Public officials is so catastrophic and complete that they have forfeited legitimacy without qualification? Allowing the carnage to go on, day after day, city after city, should be a hanging offense for every Public Official involved. The fact that absolutely nothing happens to anyone over this is categoric proof of intent. It is systematic, it is intentional, it is aimed at blacks primarily. Sure looks like genocide to me – maybe it is time to start charging some Mayors with that crime.

  11. @Jack D

    Guns are full of racist software–they fly through the air and find random black people to shoot.

    If gun manufacturers were sent to re-education camps, we could work together to solve this problem.

    😉

  12. Elsewhere says:

    Alethea Carter, 65, who has lived in Atlanta’s Edgewood neighborhood all of her life, has been left shaken by the recent spate of violence.

    “If they don’t kill us,” she told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, “we’re going to kill one another. It’s sad.”

    Truth.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  13. The headline absolves people of responsibility for their actions and places blame on inanimate objects. Gun violence is not affecting black populations. Blacks are affecting black populations with guns. Plus, they’re engaging in cultural appropriation of white inventions (guns). Black conservatives are strongly encouraged to tap the “agree” button.

  14. @Arclight

    Blacks victimized by blacks should be given reparations by blacks.

  15. “People who get involved in violence”

    Love the phrasing there. Not “violent people” or “people who commit violent acts.” No, violence is just like a fog or a puddle in the street that you happen to get in the middle of.

    “I was driving down the street with my car window down, holding my 9mm pistol out the window, pointing it a rival gang member … and I got involved in some violence. It’s a mystery, man.”

  16. Spud Boy says:

    Lots of use of the passive voice. Our freshman rhetoric teacher instructed us to avoid the passive voice in writing.

    • Agree: lavoisier
    • Replies: @Neuday
  17. Don Ho says: • Website

    The left uses gun violence, which is mostly gang violence as a political weapon on behalf of minorities, I know, what a shock. http://www.gunmap.org is a great illustration of how the white progressives in government are the culprits raising violent crime in urban areas, not helping black communities at all, by pushing and executing gun control; CA, Chicago, NJ, DC, NY. White progressives in charge of minority communities is where this happens. Every day, about 30 murders are committed with guns in the US. 52% of those are done by 6.5% of the population. The left has destroyed these communities.

    http://www.gunmap.org

  18. We need Stephen Pinker here to tell us is the most peaceful time in human history.

    • Replies: @Jane Plain
  19. Well at least there is free healthcare for these communities. Then it is gratifying to know the communities of color have no ammo shortages. Having said that, I think them killing and injuring themselves is part of the culling master plan they have for all of us.

  20. @Jack D

    After willfully defacing 5th Avenue, de Blasio last night specifically pointed out that street protests are fine and dandy despite the cancellation of all events — through at least Sept 30 — that normal people might want to attend

    • Thanks: donut
  21. qvole says:

    The Ferguson Effect is essentially a pox on the pocs.

    • LOL: Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @Cortes
  22. Anon[205] • Disclaimer says:

    Instead of just linking and quoting, and the occasional snarky remark, why don’t you create some actual content?

    You want comment writers to donate, but they are the ones creating the actual content.

    • Replies: @bruce county
  23. I’d say that the now unemployed employees in travel, tourism, dining and entertainment have borne the brunt — and even the medical industry in many unexpected ways. Not these hapless “communities of color,” although the drug and robbery sectors were lagging somewhat pre-Floyd.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
  24. @Jack D

    Violence seeks out and attacks these communities of color. Why is violence doing this? Violence must be racist.

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
    , @Anon
  25. It doesn’t really matter what happens, the major media will all do:

    1. events occur

    2. [media black box]

    3. media: “Events Occurred; Minorities Hardest Hit!!!1!

    Surely an algorithm can do this by now. It’s a wonder they still employ humans.

    I guess what remains is a jobs program for their otherwise unemployable idiot nephews and nieces.

  26. @Arclight

    Blacks arguably benefit from the high crime of their neighborhoods because it keeps their cost of housing down. Rents are probably about 30% lower, all else equal, in black neighborhoods because of the crime factor.

    • Agree: Just another serf
    • Disagree: Ian Smith
  27. Dmon says:
    @Arclight

    The average per capita income of all the countries in sub-saharan Africa is about $1500. The average per capita income of blacks in the US is about $17,000. We’ll call that about a $15,000 delta. It’s surprisingly not a slam dunk on google to find the mean age of US blacks, but the median age is right around 30. So, ballpark figures, each black American can just cut us a check for $450K and we’ll call it even.

  28. Wake Up says:

    Just so I understand….these people have no money to pay for their rent, utilities and food without help from the “Gubment”; but they have money for illegal guns, drugs, booze and expensive sneakers?

    • Agree: Coemgen
    • Replies: @Pop Warner
  29. fnn says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Haha, it’s a “group evolutionary strategy.”

  30. Jake says:

    Blacks are going to be black. Old style white Liberals assumed that blacks would act white after an end to Jim Crow and with Affirmative Action. But blacks are black. And that means massive violence.

    And the fact is that America’s Elites do not care about black on black murder and rape and do like black on non-Elite white violent crime.

    • Replies: @David In TN
  31. bgates says:

    Bullet wounds are appearing in the bodies of urban residents. Right wing extremists claim it’s because criminals are shooting firearms at the victims, but experts say the phenomenon defies easy explanation.

    • Agree: Lot
  32. Anon[359] • Disclaimer says:

    I have no idea why they call people on welfare, food stamps, and Section 8, insecure. These people are getting free food and housing. That’s more than what other people are getting.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  33. dearieme says:

    In New York City … every person who has been shot this July … has been a member of the minority community.

    Some “community”.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    , @stat in the hat
  34. Anon[317] • Disclaimer says:

    Send in a bunch of black lady social workers and restorative justice facilitators.

  35. anon[282] • Disclaimer says:

    This mirrors the language of radicals/black activists and presumably comes from a common source. Violence is always “perpetrated on” black communities/black bodies, or they are overwhelmingly the “victims” of it. The only time any agency is perscribed is when whites and/or the police are involved. The witchy spectre of “systemic racism” covers the rest.

    Do those doing the Mau-Mauing really believe blacks have essentially no agency and are at the mercy of outside actors or systems? Ironically enough it’s probably true; I just have a hard time believing they’d see it that way if asked honestly.

    • Replies: @jon
  36. “The Black community lives in a state of trauma when you look at all the maladies that adversely impact them,”

    You can’t change nature. You can pass laws like Affirmative Action and the like but these only put a mask on Nature’s Laws.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  37. “If they don’t kill us,” she told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, “we’re going to kill one another. It’s sad.”

    Sounds like at least one person in Atlanta is aware that it isn’t the guns doing the killing.

  38. Charlotte says:
    @Jack D

    Not to mention the disproportionate impact of Covid! Human behavior has nothing to do with the spread of contagious disease, as we should all know.

  39. The creature who runs the CCSA got elected by promising to reduce the number of black folks (and people), in jail/prison.

    The result?

    Even more dead POC.

    The irony is breathtaking.

    Well done Lil Kim; well done.

  40. @Almost Missouri

    Headline: Comet on course to destroy all life on earth!
    Sub-headline: Women, People of Color expected to suffer most

    Message that they should understand in the ‘hood…
    Snitches get stitches
    Rioters get COVID-19
    Looters get shot

  41. Patriot says:
    @Arclight

    White taxpayers are forced to pay for these Black-on-Black shootings, Apparently it cost about 0ne-million Dollars for EACH wounding or death (medical, legal, life-time remedial care, etc.).

    Whites are already paying for Black’s food, birth,education, daycare, housing, etc. But these shootings really hit hard — 2,000 woundings/deaths a year = $2,000,000,000/yr burden for a city like Chicago.

    Diversity is our greatest weakness!

  42. Hubbub says:

    I’m so, so sorry. I’m white, and it’s all my fault. So sorry.

  43. Arclight says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Yes but it also squashes appreciation and therefore wealth through home equity. Owning property in a terrible neighborhood is basically a savings plan not an investment.

  44. Tiny Duck says:
    @Arclight

    It is time to give up guns. We have had enough deaths with covid-19 we must work together with Love and humanity to let us heal, and prosper stronger.

    I hate guns and I abhor people who take the usual path of “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” . Or “it’s my right to bear arms”. Bullshit! The NRA is complicit in all of it.

    Hopefully democrats will take all branches of government this election and institute 2A reform

    Oh and the Hagia Sophia will be converted into a mosque

    Man, the western world is losing badly.

    • Replies: @fish
    , @Buffalo Joe
  45. indocon says:

    The following events are very likely to occur in Biden administration:

    Continued killings in the inner cities -> increasing media narrative blaming all this on availability of guns – > Democrats go all in on gun confiscation by jamming a bill through which bans all bust Beebe guns -> a whole bunch of sheriffs nationally say they won’t enforce this unconstitutional bill -> supreme court cops out of this by not taking the case against it -> 2022 approaching and inner party in Biden admin plans on a Waco like event to put the rubes down and take a scalpel to their marauding hordes to calm them down……..what could go wrong?

  46. …a 40 percent increase in gun deaths.

    But… but…

    • Replies: @Kronos
    , @David In TN
  47. Kronos says:
    @Arclight

    Is there a way to quantify the most dangerous street in Chicago?

    • Replies: @tupelo59
    , @Buffalo Joe
  48. Dumbo says:

    They love doing this. And it’s global. Even in countries such as Brazil the media keeps informing the public that “poor blacks and browns are 80% of homicide victims”, sob sob. What they don’t inform is that they are 80% of the murderers as well (or maybe 100%).

  49. Barnard says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    If you are law abiding, you run the greatly increased risk of being a crime victim on a daily basis. The lower cost of housing isn’t going to be worth the risk of being a crime victim or the other problems high crime brings to the neighborhood.

  50. Kronos says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Oh they can die…

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Alden
  51. Will they ever realize that the problem with communities of color is that they live too close to black neighborhoods?

  52. Alden says:

    Hmmm Might be a good time for building new suburbs in N. Ill Business and light industry districts as well as housing. I believe they’re a an excellent light rail system for fast commuting. What a disaster. St Louis, Gary Detroit, Milwaukee, Chicago was the last great midwestern city left and now it’s gone gone gone to the blacks.

    • Replies: @cityview
  53. El Dato says:
    @Kronos

    Imagine being so obsessed that you need to take a grinder to a perfectly good gun.

    Ignoring the annoying music, this is how it is done:

    After all, on one hand, it’s stupid tool for throwing metal. But on the other hand, it’s a stupid tool for rapidly heating a steel barrel.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  54. @Hypnotoad666

    All these guns going off and buildings bursting into flames, with no sense of agency for those wielding the firearms or hurling the Molotov cocktails. This manner of recounting black exuberance could be characterized as jewsplaining, and it is the only form of discourse allowed in current-year Wokester America.

  55. @Hypnotoad666

    Not forever. It makes their properties affordable for Hispanics as well. Once a certain mumber of Hispanics and hipsters move in, blacks retreat.

    Besides, the real reason black neighborhoods are affordable is because they keep the eternal Anglo (female) away. Real estate is run by Anglo women in this country. The Anglo woman is the actual manifestation of what anti-semites hamfistedly attribute to Jews.

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Jane Plain
  56. PSR says:

    So the real headline is “Blacks Shooting Each Other Like Crazy: Blacks Most Affected”

  57. tupelo59 says:
    @Kronos

    Because of the grid road system, streets run through both good and bad areas. Madison St runs from Millenium Park in the Loop, west though the trendy, gentrified West Loop, then through some of the worst hoods (East & West Garfield Park, South Austin) and terminates in the west suburbs. Per HeyJackAss.com, the deadliest hoods are Austin, Englewood and Garfield Park.

    • Thanks: Kronos
  58. If they don’t kill us

    Who the fuck is “they,” white people? It’s honestly overkill to call blacks delusional at this point, thinking that wypipo have been the ones doing the killing.

  59. Rich says:

    There’s a group of middle of the road Republicans who always go around saying the KKK was founded by Democrats. Wouldn’t it be funny if the KKK was still running the dems and this ‘defund the police’ thing was part of their master plan to hurt blacks? Sure looks like it’s working .

  60. Currahee says:
    @Jack D

    “Gun violence is like the weather or tides – sometimes you get a storm surge.”
    Yes, it is somewhat like lightning or thunder: gun go off, what can you do?

  61. Here’s a good example:

    Security guard charged with murder after fighting with customer over face mask rules

    https://www.kron4.com/news/security-guard-charged-with-murder-after-fighting-with-customer-over-face-mask-rules/

    As you can see they are fine specimens of humanity.

    • Replies: @anon
  62. STEM term of the day:

    “Common Denominator”

  63. Jack D says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Employment by newspapers has gone down by something like half in the last 10 years as the cumulative weekday circulation of print papers has fallen to 73 million from 122 million. So increasingly they aren’t employing humans.

    It’s already possible to use AI to, for example, take a baseball box score and convert it into a newspaper article. In China they are experimenting with virtual reality TV news reporters. So it’s not just newspaper jobs that are under threat.

  64. Veracitor says:

    That’s a fairly long story about thousands of shootings credited to writer Safia Samee Ali with contributions from Andrew Blankstein and Tom Winter. But the story isn’t long enough to describe or even mention any shooters except one “white [police] officer” and some unstated number of “Louisville Metro Police Department officers” of unspecified races. In Sofia Samee Ali’s telling, thousands of people “were shot” but only two of them were shot “by” someone and those someones were white or colorless police officers. One naturally supposes that police officers shot all the other victims as well.

    Sofia Samee Ali is a lawyer as well as a journalist. I wonder whether she does criminal defense work– her ability to deflect attention from thousands of vicious criminals to a few police officers could be very valuable in that role.

    • Replies: @J1234
  65. anon[298] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    “nearly all the bloodshed concentrated in the city’s predominantly Black and brown communities on the South and West Sides.”

    And this is “news” why?

    Note that “brown” was not capitalized. Racists.

  66. @Arclight

    Arc, I will post this again, and it is easy to find on line, the University of Chicago Medical School states the cost of a gun shot victim in Chicago averages $87,000. That includes such things as CPD response, CFD response, EMT response, overtime, single use medical supplies, ER,OR ,ICU, plus ME time, supplies, autopsies or physical rehab, which sometimes takes years. A gunshot that damages kidneys, for example, can result in a life time of dialysis. So, using the Chicago numbers from the article, 1500 shot year to date x $87,000= $130,500,000. And we are about half way through the year.

  67. @Kronos

    Kronos, I don’t have the sklls, but you can find some maps that show where most Windy City violence occurs.

    • Replies: @Cortes
  68. Cortes says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    See “Deadliest ‘hoods” at

    https://heyjackass.com/

    for example.

    • Thanks: Buffalo Joe
  69. Anon7 says:

    “… Predominantly Black neighborhoods in recent decades have averaged five times as many violent crimes as predominantly white communities…”

    Black people have evolved to be the way they are. They like that individuals are able to solve problems themselves, and are disinclined to wait for systematic solutions. Any individual who sees that the distribution of goods could be made more fair by application of interpersonal violence is an problem-solver and is a credit to his community.

    White people have evolved to be the way they are. They like orderliness and systematic approaches to problems that arise when many people are living together. When one person doesn’t have enough while others have more than enough, social, economic and political systems are put in place to ameliorate the situation.

    Why can’t people see this?

    • LOL: fish
  70. Not wanting to sound flip but I could care less. When the level of violence affects the black community as much as the police related death of a career criminal, then maybe they can turn the tide themselves. I watch the TV series “The First 48” which is about actual homicide investigations in various US city. Victims and perps are almost always black. So catch an episode before they cancel the series. The other night the investigation was into the murder of a rapper named Bizzle who was gunned down at his car wash. The wash manager said he saw one of his employees shoot Bizzle, but he didn’t know his name or address. He then added that the shooter was the brother of the manager’s girl friend who also worked at the wash. Police round up the GF and on camera, she says she doesn’t know the shooter or his name. Cop says, “Well some one is going to jail for obstruction.” She says, “Well, he is my daddy’s son.” When they care, really care, then maybe we should care.

  71. Alden says:
    @Kronos

    ATF and FBI murdered Vicky and 14 yr old Sammy Weaver b cause husband and father Randy Weaver did something very minor to modify a gun.
    Randy agreed to modify the gun after years of entrapment by the alphabet agencies

    • Replies: @Kronos
  72. @Arclight

    Yes but it also squashes appreciation and therefore wealth through home equity. Owning property in a terrible neighborhood is basically a savings plan not an investment.

    I am not sure that’s right. Someone could study it empirically, but there is no reason home values in (already) bad neighborhoods should appreciate less over time.

    If an area is already at the bottom, there is nowhere to go but up. A bad neighborhood can have above-average appreciation by gentrifying. But a middling white neighborhood that is gaining “vibrancy” is probably the worst bet appreciation-wise (unless the future vibrancy is already built into the current price).

    Black neighborhoods are a fantastic deal — if you don’t mind living around black people.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  73. Jack D says:
    @Arclight

    The economic cost of black on black gun violence itself is probably positive in that most of the victims are themselves criminals or at best burdens to society and so eliminating them increases the general welfare.

    The big cost is that black gun violence turns otherwise valuable and well located land near urban centers into worthless ghettos. In European countries (e.g. France) with violent minorities, they reserve the downtown core with its historic buildings, walkable layout and good transportation links for rich white people and they put violent minorities out in distant suburbs (in French, “suburb” is a synonym for ghetto) where they have to ride on a train for a long time if they want to go downtown. I never understood why we didn’t do the same. The projects in Chicago should have been built out by Joliet or something like that instead of blocks from the lake shore. It has taken decades to claw back some of the valuable downtown real estate and BLM is threatening to undo all of that progress.

  74. Anon[661] • Disclaimer says:

    Reminds me of an old joke.

    HEADLINE: WORLD TO END TOMORROW.

    BLACKS AND WOMEN AFFECTED MOST!

  75. @Buffalo Joe

    Arc, I will post this again, and it is easy to find on line, the University of Chicago Medical School states the cost of a gun shot victim in Chicago averages $87,000.

    The government, natch, prohibits insurance companies from including race or zip code in their actuarial calculations. So if we are not paying for this through taxes we are paying through inflated premiums.

    Maybe the police should offer an $87,000 reward for snitching on shooters. It would definitely improve their case clearance rate.

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  76. Jack D says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    You could wait a REALLY long time. If you look at many recently gentrified neighborhoods, they were black neighborhoods (with low RE values) for 40, 50, even 100 years before gentrifying. The trick is to pick a spot that is ABOUT to gentrify but that’s tricky. There are areas that looked like they were about to gentrify and George Floyd may have set that back by decades. Ultimately you can only have so much gentrification because there are only so many prosperous white people and fewer every year.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  77. Muggles says:

    So, black people and guns don’t mix well?

    Here’s a thought in line with Woke Thinking. Blacks weren’t considered citizens when the Bill of Rights was created and approved. So let’s make the argument that since it originally didn’t apply to them, it shouldn’t now.

    We can debate the value of other Amendments made prior to their becoming citizens, but if the Second Amendment is so harmful to blacks (mainly per the NBC “news” article) then that Amendment and the right to bear arms it guarantees citizens shouldn’t apply to blacks. Who weren’t citizens when that was ratified.

    Lori Lightfoot in Chicago should support this idea. Of course if we extended that life saving notion to the First Amendment, then the dangerous and black harmful BLM movement would also be shut down. Blessed relief.

    Who says iSteve here doesn’t love POC? Problems solved here.

    Well, that’s a fine week’s work here. Better rest now.

    • LOL: jon
    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  78. Gun violence can surge anywhere at anytime, it doesn’t care if you are brown, black, white, zebra striped, leopard spotted, or textured like a granite countertop. That is why I keep my guns locked in a bulletproof safe at all times so when my guns start surging forth with violence, nobody gets hurt.

    • LOL: William Badwhite
  79. Mr. Anon says:

    Communities of color have endured the weight of COVID-19, the recession and social unrest. They’re also bearing the brunt of a surge in gun violence.

    In related news, alcoholics now bearing the brunt of hangovers.

  80. Mr. Grey says:
    @Jack D

    Gun violence is similar to lightning, striking out of nowhere, killing innocent children and other people who dindu nuffin.

  81. Anon[303] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Violence seeks out and attacks these communities of color. Why is violence doing this? Violence must be racist.

    Yeah, it’s always a hoot to read “newspaper” accounts of black crime.

    “Once again, violence descended upon the peaceful denizens of Chicago this Holiday weekend…blah blah”

    You’re supposed to envision it kinda like the Angel of Death scene in The Ten Commandments, where the malevolent green fog comes down from the sky like a clawed appendage, spreading death in it’s midst.

  82. @Jack D

    In China they are experimenting with virtual reality TV news reporters.

    We pioneered that technology way back in the 80’s

    • Replies: @Cortes
  83. fish says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Ohs Tinys……you knows what teh Muslums do’s to teh gheys doncha boy?

    • Troll: jon
  84. Anonymous[223] • Disclaimer says:

    Peculiar American Way…

    War on Terror expands and even abets more terror.

    BLM leads to more dead black lives.

    From top to bottom, when policies are built on lies.

    ‘War on Terror’ is really Wars for Israel.

    BLM is really Black Feelings Matter More than Anything. Black Egotism and Touchy Pride are as precious as Air Jordans.

  85. KenH says:

    Cry me a river. I hope the blacks and latinos destroy themselves.

    • Replies: @Icy Blast
  86. It seems that the common reporting is of black-on-black violence … but, as many years of history in LA, for example, have shown — there is an awful lot of hispanic-on-Black crime … and it seems that the hispanic component of the equation is sorely missing — deliberately?

    It’s well known that b h o urged all US Attorneys (and all city, county and State prosecutors) to soft pedal crime in the US by hispanics so that they wouldn’t have to be deported. Many willingly complied with b h o’s missives — some going so far as to virtually grant a get-out-of-jail-free card to many hispanic criminals.

    Somehow things need to be brought to light that seem to be hidden … and the agenda behind it needs to be exposed for what it is … a virtual amnesty for illegal aliens in the US. Friends of mine live along the US/mexico border and report that the influx of illegals across the border is practically non-stop … as it has been for the past 60 years.

  87. Mr. Grey says:

    I grew up poor and am tired of hearing the excuse that there is more crime in the black community because of poverty. If you are born poor, choosing to act out violently, to rob and assault and shoot your fellow homies is not a pathway to success. Poor impulse control leads to a life of poverty.

  88. @JohnPlywood

    I just have to salute your screen name.

    There are a lot of great screen names here at Sailer, but yours is the one that is guaranteed to keep the laffs coming.

    • Thanks: JohnPlywood
  89. @Arclight

    the slumlords are usually jewish, not black.

    • Agree: Charon
  90. J1234 says:
    @Veracitor

    Sofia Samee Ali is a lawyer as well as a journalist. I wonder whether she does criminal defense work– her ability to deflect attention from thousands of vicious criminals to a few police officers could be very valuable in that role.

    Her being a lawyer as well as a journalist seems very appropriate to me. I was just thinking the other day that seeing or reading a news item from the MSM is a lot like attending a trial. This is because MSM journalists are a lot like legal counsel with regards to most politically oriented stories; they’re there primarily to present their client’s (or ideology’s) side of the case. They aren’t there to inform, they’re there to convince or persuade.

    Of course, an MSM political news item is also a lot unlike a trial in that there are no defense attorneys for the opposing view. Or you could maybe say it’s a lot like a show trial in that respect.

    Regardless, the new age of journalism has been with us for quite a while now, where different news stories from different perspectives have to be weighed against each other before arriving at the truth, rather than getting the truth from a single journalistic source.

    You can see how analysis and advocacy are conflated in the following:

    Ronnie Dunn, a professor of urban policy at Cleveland State University, called the surge in bloodshed “a perfect storm, a confluence of events that exposed all the societal inequities that exist.”

    “The Black community lives in a state of trauma when you look at all the maladies that adversely impact them,” he said. “These communities are the most vulnerable in our society, so a lot of these social and societal ills are going to manifest there earlier and more prominently.”

    As if a professor of urban policy is the same as a professor of a hard science – devoid of philosophical bias that could turn his professional opinion into a political opinion.

  91. “….The Black community lives in a state of trauma when you look at all the maladies that adversely impact them…”

    It appears an ongoing state. Since there is no other allowed explanation – all but vouchsafed by law – that this is due to White racism, there can be no public discussion of this immutable social characteristic. No real discussion, that is. When the issue emerges, the Sacred Explanation is chanted repeatedly.

    In a way, this is correct. Whites have had a tendency to ignore enormous black on black attack body counts. In our devilish wisdom, we know that it don’t take no nation of millions to hold you back if you’re holding yourself back. Blacks could go on blowing each other’s heads off and as long as they left us out of it, that’s okay; they would never be a serious problem for us in the big picture with all that Saturday night killing and derelict single-mom civic standards.

    But like a teacher-less kindergarten spit-wadding onto a playground, that roiling community’s problems are spilling out of their shitthole neighborhoods. They’re taking it to our to sedate white neighborhoods, at least their white allies are. And these allies are steeped in public school moral panic about nobility of non-whites and irredeemable Evil of honky gentile folk.

    White people must decide whether or not everything they’ve built is worth saving. Or if we roll over and give up. If we do that we will be absorbed into a social Borg mandating we hate ourselves. Maybe worse. For the past couple of centuries revolutionaries have shared one thing other than Jewish ethnic Fellowship… And that’s a taste for blood.

    • Thanks: bruce county
  92. Coemgen says:
    @dearieme

    Some “community”.

    What’s a good antonym for community?

    Disunion? Dichotomy?

  93. @Jake

    The MSM has adopting a policy of capitalizing “Black,” but not “white.” For example The New Republic has a story today on Jeffrey Epstein’s partner, Ghislaine Maxwell, with the subject of Sex Trafficking. The writer whines “the Black boxer Jack Johnson was charged with the Mann Act for being married to a white woman.”

    There is further whining about “over (sic) 60 % of those arrested for sex trafficking are men of color.” As usual left unsaid is that “men of color” are arrested most often due to committing the crime most often. Throughout “black” is capitalized and “white” not.

    The Mann Act, you see, was Racist, like everything.

    • Replies: @tyrone
    , @AceDeuce
  94. Coemgen says:
    @Jack D

    I never understood why we didn’t do the same.

    In hindsight it appears the plan was to drive ethnic whites (especially Catholics) out of their inner-city neighborhoods (real communities) by encouraging riots then later imposing “busing”.

    If so, the plan was very effective.

    • Replies: @Morton's toes
  95. “one of the youngest victims being an 8-year-old girl, Secoriea Turner, who was shot while riding in a car with her mother over Fourth of July weekend”

    Does it mention anywhere that she was shot by BLM supporters for her parent’s crime of trying to avoid a BLM roadblock?

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/father-of-8-year-old-fatally-shot-in-atlanta-addresses-blm-movement-they-say-black-lives-matter-you-killed-your-own

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @bruce county
  96. The side of me not influenced by my better angels thinks maybe defunding the police is not such a bad idea. If folks in these troubled communities want to kill each other, I say,”Why get in their way?”

    The christian me recognizes this is not an appropriate view. This neatly encapsulates my internal tension. I think like a Calvinist but have the emotional makeup of a nihilist. The only solution is self government under biblical law. There is no hope or help in political systems.

  97. @Reg Cæsar

    Nelson “Pete” Shields was a wealthy Du Pont executive whose son, Nelson Shields IV, was shot and killed by the NOI/Zebra Killers in 1974 in San Francisco.

    The elder Shields campaigned until his death in 1993 for the confiscation of guns, especially from law abiding citizens. Nelson “Pete” Shields never uttered a public word about the Black Muslims who killed his son. Not a word.

  98. NBC: Gun Violence Is Surging in Cities…

    …and Hitting Communities of Color Hardest

    The ones doing the shooting and the the ones getting shot are mostly black. Sounds fair.

  99. @Wake Up

    Budgeting is white privilege

    • Agree: Charon
  100. @Known Fact

    And if anything was “hit hardest” demographically it was the nursing home residents — and I wasn’t aware they skewed particularly BIPOC

  101. “If they don’t kill us,” she told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, “we’re going to kill one another. It’s sad.”

    Who is this “they” who, by their restraint, causes blacks to kill each other?

    What, if anything can be done about it?

    Should it?

  102. tyrone says:
    @David In TN

    Didn’t a very stable genius pardon Jack Johnson ….of course the MSN mentioned that…….a little joke 🙂

  103. Jack D says:
    @El Dato

    I would say that the heat is an undesired byproduct of the metal throwing function. The production of heat (and the methods for dissipating it) is well understood but since automatic rifles like an AK are not intended for sustained fire, they intentionally omit heat dissipating features that also add weight and cost – a heavier barrel, a cooling system, a quick change system so that you switch out an overheated barrel for a fresh one, etc. Their omission is intentional and not a design flaw. If any product is used beyond its design parameters it is going to fail sooner or later (and probably sooner). I suppose it is interesting to some to see how long it takes to get to the failure point and what the failure mode is, but it’s completely foreseeable that you are going to reach that point (and fairly soon) in any device that is used beyond its intended limits.

  104. Jack D says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Does it mention anywhere that she was shot by BLM supporters for her parent’s crime of trying to avoid a BLM roadblock IN ORDER TO GET TO A LIQUOR STORE?

    It just keeps getting better and better. When Atlanta is renamed Wakanda City, it is going to be glorious, just glorious.

    • Thanks: Charon
  105. anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    That LA killing is almost the mirror of this other killing from Michigan back in May.
    A black security guard at a Dollar store told a black woman she couldn’t enter the store without a mask, whereupon she flounced away and sent her black son and black husband to the store. One of them shot the black security guard in the head and he was dead.

    https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/suspects-arrested-for-murder-of-michigan-security-guard-after-asking-shopper-to-wear-a-mask

    What’s the common factor? Obviously masks are the root cause of violence. Alert Je Suis Omar the Whiner!

  106. @Jack D

    One thing that irks me is the way they do this for COVID. Like pay no attention to all the Hispanic people you see out in the world who DNGAF about physical distancing, masks, not just being exposed to the exhaled droplets of their coworkers indoors for hours a day, just know the COVID racistly hits 3x more Hispanic and black people than white and Asian people.

    • Agree: Charon
  107. Ed says:

    The media Us going to ridiculous lengths to not call out violent black culture. First the extreme passive voice as if the violence is like the weather or virus and it’s just happening. Then the people of color conflation. Even in NYC and Chicago which have large populations of Hispanics, violence is mostly a black affair. The issue is with communities of blacks, full stop.

  108. @dearieme

    Blacks hate each other more than the Klan ever did, and it shows in ‘da bodycount’.

    • Replies: @fish
    , @Anonymous
  109. jon says:
    @anon

    Do those doing the Mau-Mauing really believe blacks have essentially no agency and are at the mercy of outside actors or systems?

    Agency is a privilege! This is legitimately the answer lefties will give, I’ve heard it more than once. Again, it’s black fragility.

  110. @YetAnotherAnon

    Does it mention anywhere that she was shot by BLM supporters for her parent’s crime of trying to avoid a BLM roadblock?

    Ignorance is the only excuse for stupidity Or vice versa.

  111. jon says:
    @Arclight

    Owning property in a terrible neighborhood is basically a savings plan not an investment.

    If you look at general (meaning the whole country, not just isolated hot spots), historic (meaning over multiple decades), home ownership is always more of a savings plan than an investment, not just in bad neighborhoods.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  112. @Anon

    ThreeFiveNine, poverty in America often means not having what you want, not what you need.

  113. BB753 says:

    Gun violence, the violence that dare not speak its true name..

  114. @europeasant

    euro, Change that to read “The Black community lives in a state of drama…”

  115. fish says:
    @stat in the hat

    Blacks hate each other more than the Klan ever did, and it shows in ‘da bodycount’.

    …..and Chris Rock comedy routines…..!

  116. @Henry's Cat

    Stephen who?

    That’s show’s been cancelled.

  117. @Buffalo Joe

    Government accounting.

    A visit to a county hospital, in a CA metropolitan area, for some minor injury requiring a simple diagnostic X-Ray or a few stitches from a paraprofessional (no ambulance, police, etc.), generates a total bill of more than $1,000.

    That’s for eight hours of waiting and 30 minutes of service.

    The “average cost for GSW treatment” is a meaningless statistic.

  118. @Coemgen

    This theory is detailed ( > 600 pp) by E. Michael Jones in Slaughter of Cities. Amazon has stopped carrying it because Jones is monstrous.

    https://www.fidelitypress.org/book-products/the-slaughter-of-cities

    They still carry these monsters though!

  119. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    These monsters must be stopped…

  120. Kronos says:
    @Alden

    There are several subgroups of memes on that issue alone…

  121. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @stat in the hat

    Teen capped by Irvine jacka !

    That was a real headline on Thug Report

  122. What’s funny is the lack of discussion about who is doing the shooting.

  123. Icy Blast says:
    @KenH

    I’m “Latino” and I don’t appreciate being lumped in with your black friends. You are an idiot.

    • Replies: @KenH
  124. From January to May this year, almost 75 percent of homicide victims were Black, according to the Louisville Police Department.

    While no doubt a good bit of this 25% is hillybillies gone wild (on fentanyl?), the bad white people in Louisville need to do a better job of segregation–isolating themselves from black violence.

    The good white people in New York obviously take this segregation idea much more seriously:

    In New York City, after the number of shooting victims more than doubled from June 2019 to this June, every person who has been shot this July, nearly 100 in total, has been a member of the minority community, according to the police department. And in June, 97 percent of the shooting victims were minorities, the department said.

    That’s apartheid quality protection, there.

  125. Neuday says:
    @Spud Boy

    Lots of use of the passive voice. Our freshman rhetoric teacher instructed us to avoid the passive voice in writing.

    Who needs rhetoric when you have the Hegelian Dialectic.

  126. @Anon

    What happened to your brain??

    Did you fall from your frilly bassinette as a child.
    I bet you were always last picked for the ball team.

  127. @Undocumented Shopper

    Guns are the most efficient tool for killing rivals, so less guns probably would mean less deaths. Sure, some people will find other ways to kill each other, but it is silly to say that other weapons like knives are as efficient as guns. If they were, then we would still be fighting wars with spears and arrows instead of machine guns.

    As has already been pointed out on this site, gun control does make sense in big, crowded cities with lots of impulsive young black people, but is unnecessary in areas where gang violence is relatively low and high rates of gun ownership have positive effects like discouraging home invasions and property theft.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  128. Obviously, Black lives do not matter to BLM & its (((sponsors))).

    What does matter?

    Obviously, demoralizing, intimidating & extorting Whites.

  129. Ragno says:

    Communities of color have endured the weight of COVID-19, the recession and social unrest. They’re also bearing the brunt of a surge in gun violence.

    Oh for f**k’s sake! Even when they’re the pandemic, and the cause is nihilist white scum enabling and encouraging everything that is worst in them…..we’re STILL forced to endure these never-ending, mealy-mouthed, shit-talking summaries garlanding the American Negro with every oak-leaf cluster a gray, defeated society can bestow.

    Here we are awaiting the sacred tolling of the hour of Boogaloo, and we ‘re having trouble finding officers who can audibly speak the words it’s okay to be white ….let alone offer a jaunty “okay” sign to the troops. A wise man once said kill your televitz, and if we intend for Western civilization to prevail against the clusterfuck that’s coming , that’s the least important item on the NEVER AGAIN list.

  130. @Jack D

    In European countries (e.g. France) with violent minorities, they reserve the downtown core with its historic buildings, walkable layout and good transportation links for rich white people and they put violent minorities out in distant suburbs (in French, “suburb” is a synonym for ghetto) where they have to ride on a train for a long time if they want to go downtown. I never understood why we didn’t do the same.

    C’mon Jack, you’re a lawyer.

    A) History.
    We have a different history. The blacks were “always” here. “Always” in this context meaning from the Great Migration on. Naturally clustered in whatever were the crappier regions of town that were near the industrial facilities they came to work in during the wars.

    And, they were numerous–much more so than the muzzies and blacks were when first showing up in France.

    B) Minoritarianism.
    Minoritarianism led to “open housing”. We–white people–were no longer–at the point of a gun– *allowed* freedom of association, including associating with our own in our own neighborhoods.

    • Replies: @danand
  131. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Elsewhere

    Second part is true. First part not true.

  132. So are they going to demand the 2nd Amendment be repealed? or how about o if we just stopped watching the Fake News and the Scandal Mongers

  133. danand says:
    @AnotherDad

    “Naturally clustered in whatever were the crappier regions of town that were near the industrial facilities they came to work in during the wars.”

    AnotherDad, that’s just about Oakland California’s scenario. A place that, minus the “burden” left post WW2, could have been close to heaven.

    “Oakland California has a mild, Mediterranean-type climate with warm sunny summers and cool winters with rainy spells. Like its neighbor to the west (SF), it often experiences a morning fog in summer that typically burns off by noon.

    Military and naval installations built in the 1940’s stimulated population growth and heavy, diversified, industrial expansion. Notable was the large influx of African Americans seeking work in the city’s factories during World War II.

    By 1960, however, the city was in decline. The population, having reached a peak of about 385,000 in 1950, began to drop, and inner-city areas were beset by poverty, urban blight, and crime. Racial tensions grew in Oakland’s large African’t American’t community, and the revolutionary Black Panther Party was founded there in 1966, becoming a leading force in the black power movement.”

  134. @Tiny Duck

    Well, full conversion would be to convert it back into a Christian church, and sadly there are a number of beatiful RC churches in Buffalo that now stand as mosques.

  135. AceDeuce says:
    @Undocumented Shopper

    I’ve been calling it “black violence” or “nonwhite violence” for well over 25 years now. I wish that it would catch on.

  136. AceDeuce says:
    @David In TN

    The Mann Act was regarding “transporting women across state lines for immoral purposes”.

    Johnson was nailed for that due to his second wife being an 18 year old prostitute. (Johnson was 34). He was suspected of being a pimp at various times.

    He married her three months after his first white wife, who was frequently beaten by Johnson, committed suicide. Nice guy

  137. @Hypnotoad666

    Maybe the police should offer an $87,000 reward for snitching on shooters. It would definitely improve their case clearance rate.

    You don’t necessarily want people getting together to shoot each other and split the reward. $10K would probably be enough to up the clearance rate, while not being enough for someone to voluntarily put up with the trauma of a gunshot wound.

  138. It seems that these guns, once given agency, invariably go off and attack communities of color.

  139. @alt right moderate

    “Gun control” is a bizarre concept.

    By definition criminals don’t obey laws, so any laws requiring “gun control” will not be obeyed by criminals.

    Therefore, gun control cannot control guns.

    Conclusion: Politicians who talk about “gun control” either have IQs below room temperature or they are dangerous lying sociopaths.

  140. @jon

    Home ownership, i.e. one’s primary residence, is *consumption*.

  141. RAAAR says:
    @Undocumented Shopper

    LOL – “GUN VIOLENCE” I’m so happy my bedside pistol is lazy and just sits there not committing GUN VIOLENCE on anyone

  142. cityview says:
    @Alden

    No, there is no light rail, unfortunately. There is heavy rail (Metra commuter trains).

    • Replies: @Alden
  143. @Jack D

    And there’s a huge prison right in the middle of Joliet, which would make it convenient for visiting.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  144. @Jack D

    Newspaper employment should be going down inasmuch as they no longer report news or even facts. Most newspapers have lost something like 90% of their subscribers, but if they haven’t shed 90% of their employment, then they are still overstaffed even at half employment.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  145. @Steve Sailer

    Wouldn’t that be a bad thing though?

  146. @Jack D

    The economic cost of black on black gun violence itself is probably positive in that most of the victims are themselves criminals or at best burdens to society and so eliminating them increases the general welfare.

    They’re gonna hafta improve their marksmanship first. Looking at Steve’s recent NYC vs. Chicago comparison, for every one “eliminated”, another five or six are non-fatally shot. Taking Buffalo Joe‘s $87,000 cost per gunshot victim, that’s about a half million dollars per potential criminal elimination, and some of those aren’t actually criminals, like the 8-year-old Atlanta girl shot and killed by BLM.

    Obviously, each criminal who survives imposes a cost as well. Is that cost greater than a half million or a million dollars? I dunno. But probably somewhere there is an economist who does.

    And of course, that’s just the direct costs of crime. When you add in welfare and all the other social costs of ghetto social dysfunction, it is pretty much undeniable that on a strictly economic basis, the underclass is a net negative, so anything that reduces the underclass has a net positive economic effect. But then, does violence really reduce the underclass population? On the surface it appears it obviously does. Yet considering how a state of violence so often goes hand-in-hand with high birthrates and young maternity, it might be that one calls forth the other, so whatever the economic benefit of death by violence is, it is offset by the increased births among the same people.

  147. KenH says:
    @Icy Blast

    I’m “Latino” and I don’t appreciate being lumped in with your black friends. You are an idiot.

    So are you since it’s clear by my comments I don’t consider blacks my friends. You might be a latino/hispanic or whatever you wish to call yourself that doesn’t hate white people but so many of your people are hostile to white people and America evidenced by their 65-70% support for the radical left, anti-white Democrat party.

  148. Covid hit the ‘communerty’ in Chicago hard due to the fact that they didn’t change behavior in any measurable way, as opposed to other demographics. Same was true of the hasidim on the north side, refused any guidance on social distancing whatsoever. The hispanics were hit fairly hard due to intense population densities coupled with inter-generational domestics, but not as bad as the others. They tend to be fastidious with cleanliness and really, really like chlorine bleach. Is truth racist? Sorry.

    The supposed gun violence is merely gang violence as per usual, only amplified now due to the Chicago justice system being suspended resulting in a revolving door for all but the absolute worst and most egregious of arrestees. Realistic percentile of 90+ back out on the street within 24hrs on a promise to appear bond meaning just a signature to walk, no money required. Realistic percentile of 75+ reduced charges automatically, armed car jacking down to simple misdemeanor gun possession, armed forced entry and kidnapping down to simple assault, quite commonplace now. Reforms like that. Police are crippled by consent decrees and a hostile management fraught with corruption…

    Welcome to Chicago. The self cleaning oven is open for business

  149. Jack D says:
    @Almost Missouri

    I gave the figures up above: the cumulative weekday circulation of print papers has fallen to 73 million from 122 million in the last 10 years, which is a lot less than 90%. There may be individual papers whose circulation has fallen 90% but probably there is some point well short of 90% where it no longer pays to print the paper at all no matter how much you have cut the staff.

    There was an article in the NY Times the other day about a guy who is the last remaining full time reporter on the Pottstown (PA) Mercury, a once respected local paper which is down to a barebones operation – the paper is run from this guy’s attic and he makes $46k/yr. There is some hedge fund guy who specializes in buying these papers – he strips out the assets – small town papers once had good sized office buildings well situated downtown and fires most of the staff and thus is able to keep the paper going in a fashion (he makes a very nice living doing this and a 30% ROI) but the papers are mere shadows of their former selves.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    , @Alden
  150. @Jack D

    There is something of a consolidation taking place in the newspaper industry where far flung readers are migrating away from their (gutted) local papers to the digital versions of a few prestige outlets (NYT, WaPo, WSJ). You can see the effect here:

    https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2019/08/average-is-over-newspaper-edition.html

    Some papers appear to have taken greater than 90% losses, but presumably there are still newsprint readers who don’t show up in those figures, but every year there are fewer, particularly after a heavy flu season. Financially the situation is even worse than the numbers show since the marginal cost of each newsprint edition is relatively high, while the marginal cost of each digital edition is nearly zero, so the NYT-WaPo-WSJ triumvirate are cleaning up with high-profit margin digital subscribers while everyone else chokes on their overhead.

    Thanks for the Pottstown link. Interesting story.

  151. Stick says:

    Pretty sure all this violence is caused by Confederate Statues and not Jewish Merchants.

    • Replies: @anon
  152. anon[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @Stick

    lol, when did Columbus and Cervantes become Confederates?

    How about anti-slavery, anti-Confederate Hans Christian Hag of Wisconsin, when did he become a Confederate Statue?

    Some people are stupid.

  153. Alden says:

    My sister went to a speech by Angela Davis once. It was free, at a university within walking distance at 1pm, something to do between morning housework and picking up the kids after school.

    She said Davis is very tall and skinny. The speech was just incoherent blithering and blathering to the point she wondered if Davis was on drugs or mentally ill.

    We actually lived in Marin when the shootout happened. The Marin and city newspapers blamed the 11 dead on the sheriffs. As per usual, the writers who never even saw a real gun in their lives pontificated on all the things the sheriffs should have done or not done. I don’t remember exactly what.

    Property taxes were doubling every year in Marin and people were outraged about that. People blamed the costs of the shoot out and all the security and remodeling neccessitated by the shootout at the county building for the horrendous rise in property taxes

    Plus, Marin was sparsely populates and all county offices were in that building, from the only library that had more than 200 children’s books to zoning building business licenses as well as the court rooms. So every body had to go through security which outraged people. For years bombs were found in the parking lot.

    The building was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright at the height of his fame Everyone was very proud of that. It was the absolutely very first post 1945 government building in the entire country that wasn’t a Stalinesque Brutalist modernist hideous unadorned box. And one of the very first completely sealed buildings with recycled air ventilation. Any government building designed and built in that era that wasn’t a brutalist box was the equivalent of Versailles at the time.

    I think blue instead of rust red tiles on the roof was a mistake. The blue roof was supposed to blend in with the sky but it didn’t. It really was a nice building with a skylight the entire hallway and openings in the floors so the daylight went to the skylight to the bottom floors. Lots of plants inside and a gorgeous park with a duck pond and playground around it.

    Like everything nice Whites build, blacks tried to ruin it. Angela Davis wasn’t seduced by the panthers. She was a hardcore communist raised by her hardcore communist mother and for high school, a hardcore Quaker communist family in NYC and sent a hardcore communist training high school. The communists in the War on Poverty created the Panthers out of the Oakland community college black student union.

    There was so much clear and present irrefutable evidence as it was called to put her in prison forever. But those Santa Clara morons found her not guilty.
    11 Whites including a sitting judge murdered by her guns and she was acquitted. Well, the gun laws were simpler then.

    Marin was solid democrat and ultra liberal. The anger over the shoot out, rise in property taxes blamed on security and remodeling and going through security to go to the library or get a business license or permit sure didn’t change the voting patterns and lunatic leftism.

  154. Alden says:
    @Jack D

    Wonderful news. I’ve hated newspaper leftist propaganda since college. I wish upon every still living newspaper employee owner and share holder the same horrible fate I wish on every college teacher and hanger on in America.

    A favorite movie is Evita. My very favorite scenes are the scenes of the army rushing into newspaper offices smashing the desks and typewriters and arresting everyone.

    Off topic ICE has rescinded the order that foreign students must attend on campus classes to keep their student visas. They are free to stay in the US with online classes.

    I believe the real infection problem for college students is being crowded 3 in a 12 by 8 dorm room with no closets but 3 by 3 cubboards taking up more floor space. That’s prison cell space.

  155. Alden says:
    @El Dato

    America, especially especially the big cities with high crime rates and black populations has every possible legal means to prevent many crimes but above all killing and murder.

    That crime prevention is existing gun control laws. Just enforce those laws. killings and assault and battery crimes will fall to nothing but beating each other and their small children to death and occasional stabbings

    Enforcement of gun laws and the endless ridiculous regulations is impossible because enforcement of gun regulation has an extreme disparate impact on blacks because.

    More than any other race, blacks tend to call police for every little problem. Presumably because their emotional age is about 4 and they need Nanny to supervise everything.

    Here’s a typical scenario. Man pounding on his woman or her kids. Or not, she is just tired of feeding and lodging him and wants him out She or older kid calls police.

    Police arrive. In plain sight is a gun or 2 or 3. Police run record checks on everyone over 10 years. A man or teen boy has a felony record. He’s a felon he lives in or visits the home. Therefore he’s a felon in possession of a gun. Hopefully still on parole so he can be violated and sent back to prison easily. And guess what? The gun isn’t registered to him. A violation of the gun control laws. And a forensic check shows it’s been used in numerous crimes.
    And it was stolen from a gun store during last year’s riot.

    Easy peasy a criminal is in prison and a gun or 2 is removed from a black criminal breeding home.

    If big city and other black infested area police
    started really enforcing gun laws and regulations the number of blacks in jail and prison would probably triple. Ask any police officer who works in black neighborhoods. Most black homes have guns in them; often stolen, often possessed by felons, usually unregistered.

    Easiest way to put blacks in prison where they can’t commit crimes? Just enforce existing gun laws against them.

  156. Alden says:
    @cityview

    Is that the trains or trolleys whatever they are between the freeways?

    I once landed at Midway airport and took a cab on Lakeshore drive to Lakeview. Wow just wow, the lake, beach, park , the road and the incredible 19th early 20th century public and private buildings. The huge Picasso sculpture in civic center plaza. The 1900 sculptures by famous sculptors I don’t know their names.

    Best thing about the Picasso. It’s so huge and very abstract so BLM can’t pull it down because it’s a racist White man or even a racist elk. It’s rusted iron. Probably an insult to the reddish brown American Indian coloring. Down with Picasso. He was a White man.

    Incredible museums, parks, transit, the aquarium , the main library designed by Louis Tiffany, the very most bestest excellent city planning, Chicago makes Los Angeles look like an insignificant oversized suburb.

    San Francisco has about 5 public buildings equal to Chicago’s , City Hall, Anglican cathedral, the Bohemian Club, a few hotels. The Embarcadero Fountain in San Francisco is more attractive than Chicago’s Picasso but it’s full of rats who live in those square tunnel things .

    Chicago, the last great midwestern city to fall to the blacks.

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