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From NBC News:
Is Andrew Yang ‘reclaiming’ stereotypes with Asian jokes? Experts say not so much.
“The reality is that Asian Pacific Americans are much more diverse and by playing into stereotypes without challenging them, Yang minimizes the challenges faced by many in the Asian Pacific American community.”
Nov. 20, 2019, 8:30 AM PST
By Kimmy YamAs 10 Democratic candidates take the stage Wednesday for the fifth Democratic presidential debate, many Asian Americans are keeping their eyes on Andrew Yang, and not solely because of his proposal for universal basic income or his increasing momentum in the race.
Many will be on alert for another Asian joke from Yang, as his representation of Asian Americans remains a source of division within the community.
From his campaign slogan “Make America Think Harder,” also referred to as MATH, to his quip on the debate stage about knowing a lot of doctors because he’s Asian, the Taiwanese American candidate has ignited criticisms that his Asian jokes just perpetuate tired “model minority” stereotypes.
In an October interview with the Washington Post, Yang argued that most Americans are “very, very smart and if I make a joke that I’m an Asian guy that likes math, they don’t think, ‘Oh, all Asians like math.’” He further rationalized his self-deprecating humor in the same interview by claiming that “by bringing these stereotypes into the light and poking fun at them, you’re actually dispelling them and making them weaker.”
Many experts, however, aren’t so sure. … But sociologists and other academics said that the candidate’s jokes aren’t doing the Asian American community any favors.
“I’m thinking of all those Americans who have never met an Asian American in person
Like who? Cloistered nuns on Michigan’s Upper Peninsula?
and how this is going to reinforce a one-dimensional picture of who Asian Americans are,” sociologist Anthony Ocampo, who focuses on race, immigration and LGBTQ issues, said.
While Yang’s comments are in jest, feeding into the model minority myth has damaging effects on the Asian American community and beyond, Ocampo said. For Asian Americans, the stereotype creates an environment in which they feel pressured to adhere to standards of academic perfection, and Yang’s jokes could send the harmful message that “the only way they’ll be able to be heard is if they are willing to play off the model minority stereotypes,” he said.
The jokes also gloss over problems experienced by more vulnerable populations of Asian Americans, John C. Yang, president of public policy and civil rights nonprofit Asian Americans Advancing Justice, said.
According to the Pew Research Center, Asian Americans have the largest income gap compared to all other groups. In New York City, they have the highest poverty rate compared to other racial groups with certain Asian subgroups, like the Bangladeshi community, that experience particularly alarming rates. However, over a 13-year period — between 2002 to 2014 — they received only 1.4 percent of the city’s social service funds. Advocates cite the model minority myth and the perception that Asian Americans are financially well-off as a key reason for the insufficient funding.
Ka-ching!
Anyway, this article goes on in this super serious vein for quite some time. I couldn’t take any more of it, but you might find the sheer humorless repetition pretty funny in a brain-drubbing sort of way.
Out of context, this photo NBC News uses of Yang in his MATH hat would make for a good caption contest:
social media handle: @kimmythepooh
Full name: Kimberly Yam
– born ca. 1992; raised in Saugerties, New York (94% White, 1% Asian as of 2010);
– BA, Georgetown, May 2014 (Regional Studies: U.S., Canadian, Foreign);
– June 2014, hired by Huffington Post as Associate Editor; promoted to Editor in early 2017; currently listed as Asian-American Affairs Reporter and Asian Voices Editor;
– Member, The Chinese Students and Scholars Association at Georgetown University (GU-CSSA)
She uses this as her profile pic:
Her tweet-announcement that she is taking a Twitter-hiatus after she was “attacked by hundreds of people” over the Yang article:
She's not posing for an Andrew Yang.Replies: @Morton's toes
She's got the banana shirt, I notice - yellow on the outside and white SJW on the inside.Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Hail, @J.Ross
She looks like a tranny,amirite?
I don’t mean to cast aspersions, and maybe it’s been said before, but Kimmy Yam sounds like a stripper’s name.
A stripper’s name, with obvious backstory buried in the nomenclature.
Was it Malcolm Muggeridge who complained about real-life getting so crazy that it was impossible picking up some extra cash writing satire for Punch anymore?
- born ca. 1992; raised in Saugerties, New York (94% White, 1% Asian as of 2010);
- BA, Georgetown, May 2014 (Regional Studies: U.S., Canadian, Foreign);
- June 2014, hired by Huffington Post as Associate Editor; promoted to Editor in early 2017; currently listed as Asian-American Affairs Reporter and Asian Voices Editor;
- Member, The Chinese Students and Scholars Association at Georgetown University (GU-CSSA)
She uses this as her profile pic:
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1167882208805179394/yvTMaAxx_400x400.jpg
Her tweet-announcement that she is taking a Twitter-hiatus after she was "attacked by hundreds of people" over the Yang article:Replies: @anon, @schnellandine, @Achmed E. Newman, @Malcolm X-Lax, @jimmyriddle, @Exile, @Kratoklastes
Her boyfriend is white. I don’t know that for a fact, but I feel I do.
She’s not posing for an Andrew Yang.
This is the Chinese version of the oreo cookie insult except the ABC's (American born Chinese) do not consider it an insult.
Also Yang's humor is not self-deprecating. It is a boast about how smart he is. He will confide in you that his parents made hell for him when he only scored in the 97th percentile on the SAT. And I'm sure his parents did make hell for him. That does not make it not boasting.Replies: @Twinkie
She's not posing for an Andrew Yang.Replies: @Morton's toes
She is wearing a banana t-shirt.
This is the Chinese version of the oreo cookie insult except the ABC’s (American born Chinese) do not consider it an insult.
Also Yang’s humor is not self-deprecating. It is a boast about how smart he is. He will confide in you that his parents made hell for him when he only scored in the 97th percentile on the SAT. And I’m sure his parents did make hell for him. That does not make it not boasting.
Imagine the strides for the Transgender community if Yang would only don a silk top, heels, and miniskirt for a debate. He could cover the Asian humor obligation with a funny Engrish catchphrase expressing eagerness to engage the listener in sexual congress beyond a mere short time.
Self-deprecating, and would it not be everyting voter want?
O-camp-o. You can’t make this stuff up. You’d be cancelled.
By the way, there’s a chainlet of eateries here called Los Ocampo. Why is there no S on the name?
Could be worse. Imagine the jokes were his name John C Wang.
Experts girmly weigh in if a certain joke is funny?
Egads…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1JYHNX8pdoReplies: @Achmed E. Newman
‘Anyway, this article goes on in this super serious vein for quite some time. I couldn’t take any more of it, but you might find the sheer humorless repetition pretty funny in a brain-drubbing sort of way.’
I suspect it’s like the children’s books about little black kids.
No one actually reads these things. It’s not expected that anyone will read them. The whole point is to signal virtue by producing them.
You probably read as much of the article as anyone did.
Next door to Woodstock. The art colony, not the festival. The Band’s Big Pink is there, and NRBQ was based in the village for years. One of those places, usually all-white, where the artsy-fartsy crowd rubs shoulders with pickup people. (Sometimes in the same individual, as with Scott Adams, of nearby Windham.)
Boy, does that sound vague. Is Georgetown a diploma mill for undergrads?
Kimmy Yam = My, my. A Kim.
Saugerties is where Dylan recorded the Basement Tapes and The Band recorded their album, Music From Big Pink.
If that’s the racial makeup of the place as recently as 2010, I can see that the Hudson Valley hasn’t changed all that much in fifty years. Certainly the Finger Lakes area, a hundred miles and more to the west hasn’t. It’s a virutal certainty that Kim Yam’s children and grandchildren aren’t really going to be thinking of themselves as Asian, especially if she marries someone like the people among whom she grew up.
There’s no footage from Saugerties, but here’s some of the Band playing in Robbie Robertson’s home in nearby Woodstock.
- born ca. 1992; raised in Saugerties, New York (94% White, 1% Asian as of 2010);
- BA, Georgetown, May 2014 (Regional Studies: U.S., Canadian, Foreign);
- June 2014, hired by Huffington Post as Associate Editor; promoted to Editor in early 2017; currently listed as Asian-American Affairs Reporter and Asian Voices Editor;
- Member, The Chinese Students and Scholars Association at Georgetown University (GU-CSSA)
She uses this as her profile pic:
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1167882208805179394/yvTMaAxx_400x400.jpg
Her tweet-announcement that she is taking a Twitter-hiatus after she was "attacked by hundreds of people" over the Yang article:Replies: @anon, @schnellandine, @Achmed E. Newman, @Malcolm X-Lax, @jimmyriddle, @Exile, @Kratoklastes
In nearly every post it might be relevant, I look for the Hail™ dossier.
https://youtu.be/P9qqyXZACVI?t=69
Thanks for your contributions, Hail.
Egads...Replies: @anon, @ThreeCranes
I’m no expert, but I thought this call-in prank to a newsroom was hilarious…
Oh, on Miss Yummy, she brings up another case of using pure geographic terminology instead of old-timey descriptive terms for ethnic groups. Now it's the APAs, Asian Pacific Americans, instead of the ABCs, American- Born Chinese or the Orientals. Steve here brings up a new one - the CYC - Cloistered Yoopers of the Cloth.
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* Literally Laugh Out LoudReplies: @obwandiyag, @Kratoklastes
Cloistered MUP is an ‘acquired taste’ according to Condé Nast Traveler.
Speaking of Dem candidates, didn’t I hear Liz Warren in an interview speaking about her former life as a cloistered pregnant Red Indian nun on Michigan’s Upper Peninsula?
Every time Hail dumps biography copypasta I hear this song (@ 1:10) …
That sounds as likely as the claim earlier this century that Dave Chappelle was somehow mocking racists by portraying black crack addicts and the like. Granted, Asians have mostly positive stereotypes, but joking about them doesn’t weaken the stereotypes. It does show that you have a sense of humor, which is good in its own right.
A bit of slight of hand there, slotting in the Bangladeshis, when “Asian” generally refers to “East Asian” in America. Bangladeshi Americans’ high poverty rates may have similar causes as Bangladesh’s poverty, but has any sociologist drilled down into the poverty rates of Asian Asians in New York City? How many are, say, parents of non-poor Asian Americans? How many actually live in poverty versus have negligible incomes to qualify for government assistance but are actually supported by their children informally? And why are they here when we have laws against welcoming immigrants who are likely to be public charges?
Kind of like running your brain through a Chinese laundry.
This is the Chinese version of the oreo cookie insult except the ABC's (American born Chinese) do not consider it an insult.
Also Yang's humor is not self-deprecating. It is a boast about how smart he is. He will confide in you that his parents made hell for him when he only scored in the 97th percentile on the SAT. And I'm sure his parents did make hell for him. That does not make it not boasting.Replies: @Twinkie
That’s why he went to a third-rate Ivy (the color of poop). 😉
“Ocampo, who focuses on race, immigration and LGBTQ issues,”
Shouldn’t he be referred to as an activist, instead of pretending that he’s some kind of unbiased expert?
- born ca. 1992; raised in Saugerties, New York (94% White, 1% Asian as of 2010);
- BA, Georgetown, May 2014 (Regional Studies: U.S., Canadian, Foreign);
- June 2014, hired by Huffington Post as Associate Editor; promoted to Editor in early 2017; currently listed as Asian-American Affairs Reporter and Asian Voices Editor;
- Member, The Chinese Students and Scholars Association at Georgetown University (GU-CSSA)
She uses this as her profile pic:
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1167882208805179394/yvTMaAxx_400x400.jpg
Her tweet-announcement that she is taking a Twitter-hiatus after she was "attacked by hundreds of people" over the Yang article:Replies: @anon, @schnellandine, @Achmed E. Newman, @Malcolm X-Lax, @jimmyriddle, @Exile, @Kratoklastes
Kimmy Yam: Pretty yummy from the name and the picture. You’d just have to tell her that she can’t talk politics when you take her to meet the parents… or any time after that
She’s got the banana shirt, I notice – yellow on the outside and white SJW on the inside.
Personally, I think Kimmy would be far more self-actualized if she pursued the Asa Akira career track.
Yam.
Orange/saffron-colored/yellow on the inside.
Brown on the outside.
Let me tell you about my victimhood.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
FLASHBACK: In 2001, Sarah Silverman explained why “Chink” is appropriate as a comedic expression, then attacked a representative of the Media Action Network for Asian Americans for finding it offensive.
1. People had more courage before Twitter.
2. Sarah Silverman has been unfunny for a looong time.
Analyzing humor is not something one ever wants to do, but ...
The reluctant juror wants to say something socially reprehensible to get off of jury duty:
“I hate chinks.”
The humor is in the fact that this can be divided into “I hate” and “chinks.”
“I hate”: One is not supposed to hate groups of people. Bad.
“chinks”: One is not supposed to use offensive racial epithets. Bad.
The reluctant juror then tries to reverse her offensive statement, but only reverses half of it, leaving the other half: “I love chinks.” That’s funny.
What is interesting is that a version of the joke ending with “I hate Chinese people.” That just isn’t funny. Why? I’m not sure.
“Chinks” is short and schoolyardy and has a funny sound to it, so that may be playing into it. Also, it has a built-in connotation of something that one does not like. You use the term rather than “Chinese people” because “chinks” emplasizes your dislike of Chinese people. On the other hand, “I hate” is not necessarily negative. You are allowed to hate a lot of things, and in fact you are socially allowed to hate people, as long as you don’t hate entire protected groups.
But I still think I haven’t completely figured this out.
Kimmy Yam = My, my. A Kim.Replies: @PiltdownMan, @ScarletNumber, @Anonymous
I wonder how long it will be before the all white folk and folk-rock bands of the Sixties will start getting canceled for being all white, or tapping into all-white Americana for their inspiration.
I’m going to guess that the issue will get conflated with the generalized hatred of boomers around these days and their fury of the mob will be immense. Any year now …
Dylan will probably escape the wrath of the woke, though. For writing songs like Hurricane and because he’s not an old-stock gentile like many of those guys were, in those Sixties bands.
Cloistered nuns in the UP would probably have some visitors from non-cloistered nuns. Here in Ohio, a certain percentage are obviously foreign born.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1JYHNX8pdoReplies: @Achmed E. Newman
Thanks for digging that up, #710. I don’t LLOL* often, but I did twice when I first watched that. Then the new station blamed the screw up on interns who worked there, and they, in turn, blamed it on interns at the FAA or NTSB. Even more LOLs.
Oh, on Miss Yummy, she brings up another case of using pure geographic terminology instead of old-timey descriptive terms for ethnic groups. Now it’s the APAs, Asian Pacific Americans, instead of the ABCs, American- Born Chinese or the Orientals. Steve here brings up a new one – the CYC – Cloistered Yoopers of the Cloth.
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* Literally Laugh Out Loud
Then I understood why it was pronounced "Jay-Ay-Pee" and not "Jap".
My interlocutor also explained that Japs were Nips, not Japs; I responded that as I understood it, nips were the things at the pointy end of boobs (i.e., they were the things that Krauts call "brustwartzen" - breast warts... way to fuck up a good thing, Krauts).Replies: @Twinkie
Yeah, but on the + side! Doesn’t that make a big damn difference? (This paragraph of hers was pretty confusing anyway.)
That’s only fair, because they pay in so little tax money on so much in sales.
There IS a big gap there. It’s a gap between the perception of their financial well-being OVER the table, vs. their actual financial well-being.
Kimmy Yam = My, my. A Kim.Replies: @PiltdownMan, @ScarletNumber, @Anonymous
Saugerties was the home to Woodstock 94.
I don’t think saying that you like math or know a lot of doctors qualifies as self deprecating.
On the right, Kimmy Yam:
She's got the banana shirt, I notice - yellow on the outside and white SJW on the inside.Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Hail, @J.Ross
Agreed!
Personally, I think Kimmy would be far more self-actualized if she pursued the Asa Akira career track.
- born ca. 1992; raised in Saugerties, New York (94% White, 1% Asian as of 2010);
- BA, Georgetown, May 2014 (Regional Studies: U.S., Canadian, Foreign);
- June 2014, hired by Huffington Post as Associate Editor; promoted to Editor in early 2017; currently listed as Asian-American Affairs Reporter and Asian Voices Editor;
- Member, The Chinese Students and Scholars Association at Georgetown University (GU-CSSA)
She uses this as her profile pic:
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1167882208805179394/yvTMaAxx_400x400.jpg
Her tweet-announcement that she is taking a Twitter-hiatus after she was "attacked by hundreds of people" over the Yang article:Replies: @anon, @schnellandine, @Achmed E. Newman, @Malcolm X-Lax, @jimmyriddle, @Exile, @Kratoklastes
Very bangable. By the way, though many of you may already know, Yang told an audience of Asian Americans that one of his prime motivations for running for President was to keep unemployed white Americans (truck drivers, e.g,) from taking their anger out on his sons. By bribing them with $1,000, I guess.
We all know that stereotypes have zero basis in reality, therefore it’s oppression to notice the extremely low rates of crime, out of wedlock births, higher than average incomes, etc of Asians because the effect is to draw a distinction between different non-whites. Wouldn’t want anyone to get the impression that some groups and cultural behaviors tend to produce better results than others. There is only White (bad) and everyone else (good).
This reminds me of the “Asian F” episode from the TV show Glee.
This new country they are building… no sex, no meat, no jokes.
Well said, Thea.
I think we're turning Japanese.
I really think so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWWwM2wwMww
Kimmy Yam = My, my. A Kim.Replies: @PiltdownMan, @ScarletNumber, @Anonymous
But she’s not a Kim. She’s Chinese.
IMHO, she’s too hot-looking to be writer. She’s got a face for TV.
https://youtu.be/u_O0zQ-qvwE
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YGweiRXFqDk
My high school reunion was that weekend, in the same general area. I got to ride Greyhound from the Midwest with a lot of older ex-hippies or wannabes, now dressed like normal people. One even said he actually bought a ticket. He wasn’t up to breaking in.
Egads...Replies: @anon, @ThreeCranes
and always in the name of some “other” about whom the experts are unctuously concerned though they don’t know any of them personally and wouldn’t stop to help them change a tire if they passed them, broken down, on the highway.
- born ca. 1992; raised in Saugerties, New York (94% White, 1% Asian as of 2010);
- BA, Georgetown, May 2014 (Regional Studies: U.S., Canadian, Foreign);
- June 2014, hired by Huffington Post as Associate Editor; promoted to Editor in early 2017; currently listed as Asian-American Affairs Reporter and Asian Voices Editor;
- Member, The Chinese Students and Scholars Association at Georgetown University (GU-CSSA)
She uses this as her profile pic:
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1167882208805179394/yvTMaAxx_400x400.jpg
Her tweet-announcement that she is taking a Twitter-hiatus after she was "attacked by hundreds of people" over the Yang article:Replies: @anon, @schnellandine, @Achmed E. Newman, @Malcolm X-Lax, @jimmyriddle, @Exile, @Kratoklastes
If Weihan Zhang was still on twitter, she would have seen what a real dogpile looks like.
And Ms. Yam is wearing a shirt depicting a peeled banana? No stereotyping symbolism in that photo, people, move along.
Was it Malcolm Muggeridge who complained about real-life getting so crazy that it was impossible picking up some extra cash writing satire for Punch anymore?
Holy cow.
Deliberate and no doubt some just confused–not smart enough, not wise enough, not careful enough–distortions, mixed comparisons, cherry-picking, gaping omissions and lies.
This is what NBC publishes now?
Having these young female journalists blather away is ridiculous on it’s face. They have no life experience, know very little about the world, both lack common sense and a common sense rough picture of the world and have no idea how little they know. So … they are perfect for telling the rest of us what’s going on!
According to the Hail bio Kimmy’s been out five years–likely 27 going on 28. In her pic she looks attractive enough–if not a nut job–to land a quality guy. My advice to Kimmy: land a quality guy before your looks start to go and start having babies. If in 20 years when your youngest is in middle school and you’ve actually learned a bit about the world, you really want to try “journalism” … give it a go. For now, focus on what’s important in life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo85Yaj3iUY
Most of us who read comments are text-oriented and do not necessarily readily click/watch video like this, but in this case it helps it helps to see Kimmy in video form rather than only via a carefully selected, setpiece headshot (her Twitter profile pic).
Through video we can also see Kimmy's mannerisms and hear her voice, how she speaks. She is clearly a native- or native-level US English speaker, but as some commenters here have been known to say, I think it's still clear she is East Asian even if one heard audio only.
In any case, for the text-oriented, and in case that video ever goes down, here is a little text transcription/highlight of some of her Feb. 2019 appearance on China state media:Lot of buzzwords, especially the Big D; she writes better than she speaks, in that if the above were an essay or article she would majorly rewrite it: She drops completely the "diversity among designers" point before explaining it; she is speaking in what sound like run-on sentences. In media-commentary appearances like that, it's best to use 'periods,' as it were, liberally. Anyway a distinctly high rate of iSteve-worthy-content-per-hundred-words.
FWIW, I don't think Kimmy Yam talking this way is necessarily her fault, but that's another story.Replies: @Jack D, @Kratoklastes
You’re too late. Some time ago, the risen scum that now dominates magazine “journalism” decided that progressive rock is entirely too white to be left alone to sink or swim on its own merits. Lord knows prog rock has no friends in either music media or fashionable magazines; but if the fact that it continues to dogpaddle above the waterline completely on its own power didn’t irritate these bottom-feeders like a stone in their shoe, articles like this wouldn’t exist:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/the-whitest-music-ever/534174/
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/06/19/the-persistence-of-prog-rock
Occasionally, somebody throws a defensive right cross and bloodies these people’s noses – rest assured they’re not the sorts of folks welcomed by Corporate Journalism with a prominent byline w/book deal:
https://savagehippie.com/2017/08/05/prog-rock-so-white-so-what/
What is it that aggravates the shitlibs so? Precisely that prog rock generally avoids “culturally appropriating” music of The Other (unless of course The Other is actively participating in the music, in which case they’re ignored or dismissed with Uncle Tom allusions). The handful of currently-active progressive artists who do enjoy a measure of cultural cachet – King Crimson, The Mars Volta, Van der Graaf Generator, Steven Wilson/Porcupine Tree – understand that, to play this game without drawing hostile fire, it’s important that they explicitly dismiss and despise “prog rock” as a category or cultural touchstone. And so they do, whether sincerely or not.
For my part, the continuing survival of progressive rock is a heartening symbol that – regardless of custom, fashion or (God help us) legislation – it was, is, and remains Okay To Be White.
It all started with Sgt. Pepper's. Which wasn't a bad album for the Beatles. But which gave dumbass rock musicians the idea that they were "artists"! Ta-da-ta-daaa!
And then the deluge.
Would that they'd stuck with Little Richard covers.
- born ca. 1992; raised in Saugerties, New York (94% White, 1% Asian as of 2010);
- BA, Georgetown, May 2014 (Regional Studies: U.S., Canadian, Foreign);
- June 2014, hired by Huffington Post as Associate Editor; promoted to Editor in early 2017; currently listed as Asian-American Affairs Reporter and Asian Voices Editor;
- Member, The Chinese Students and Scholars Association at Georgetown University (GU-CSSA)
She uses this as her profile pic:
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1167882208805179394/yvTMaAxx_400x400.jpg
Her tweet-announcement that she is taking a Twitter-hiatus after she was "attacked by hundreds of people" over the Yang article:Replies: @anon, @schnellandine, @Achmed E. Newman, @Malcolm X-Lax, @jimmyriddle, @Exile, @Kratoklastes
I have no sympathy for professional sh*t-stirrers who only decide there’s too much hate when they’re taking some rather than dishing out.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_46/3099531/191113-andrew-yang-al-1434_de29e092994bb71cbfc5e0971665360e.nbcnews-fp-1024-512.jpgReplies: @nymom
I actually find the MATH motto and hat extremely funny…
“the Asian Pacific American community”
That’s it. Use a stereotype to combat stereotyping. Good work, Yammie. What–pretty pretty pray tell–is the “Asian Pacific community?” Better still, what exactly is an “Asian Pacific” person? Chinese? Japanese? Filipino? Polynesian? Cambodian? Different languages, different cultures, etc. etc.
The artlessness of these people boggles the mind.
Yang could beat the “model minority” rap by surrounding himself with some Hmong.
Andrew "Gentle Giant" Yang didn't do nothing wrong.Replies: @Jack D
deliberately committing a series of street crimes himself.
Andrew “Gentle Giant” Yang didn’t do nothing wrong.
I was just thinking the same thing this morning. He’s clearly very skilled in that department.
Thanks for your contributions, Hail.
“I’m thinking of all those Americans who have never met an Asian American in person”
The only way much of the MSM’s commentary makes sense these days is assuming they inhabit the mental universe of 1969.
A man may look at the calendar and see "November 2019," but he'd be wrong.
Of course historical memory is always selective - to the CPC, the Opium Wars were just yesterday but flooding America with Chinese fentanyl never happened.Replies: @nebulafox
It’s funny: Singapore is a place where outright identity politics are banned due to well-grounded historical paranoia about where they could lead, but ethnic jokes over dinner are commonplace because people are mature enough to handle them, and have enough respect for the intelligence of other people to not need to inquire whether they believe the stereotype is literally true with millions of people.
“Three Chinese, they gamble. Three Malays, they take drugs. Three Indians, they drink. A Chinese, a Malay, and an Indian together? They arrest them all. That’s Singapore!”
I don’t agree with Yang that an average American is very, very smart for not taking every stereotype at face value: I think it shows they are normal, sane human beings, and it should be considered deeply insulting that not everybody thinks Americans are capable of that.
>A bit of slight of hand there, slotting in the Bangladeshis, when “Asian” generally refers to “East Asian” in America. Bangladeshi Americans’ high poverty rates may have similar causes as Bangladesh’s poverty, but has any sociologist drilled down into the poverty rates of Asian Asians in New York City?
That the subcontinent is a completely different construct from East Asia-racially, religiously, culturally, every metric you could imagine-is immaterial. (I’d say there are more differences between India and China than there are between Russia and England, which should give you an idea of the gap we’re dealing with here.) They are not white, so in the bien-pensant worldview, they all must surely view them as protectors against those evil BadWhites. Whenever a non-white person breaks the Narrative through actions or beliefs, or lets slip that they do not, in fact, view America as an especially deeply racist society, or believe they are in need of protection and guidance from white liberals, incomprehension results. Followed by an assumption that this is a sign of how deeply entrenched the evils of American society are, that the BadWhites are corrupting the innocent, child-like Diverse.
These people are really trying to do Puritanism without God, on some level. It’s a perverted moral energy rather than cynical amoral calculation: and that’s why you can’t reason with the leftists.
Now, there are some linkages between India and Iran, but India and China? let alone Korea/Japan/Phillipines.
Vietnam had a Hindu minority, but the Cham essentially arent much of a deal anymore.
The closness between India and China is more akin to the one between Britain and the Ottomans.
Deliberate and no doubt some just confused--not smart enough, not wise enough, not careful enough--distortions, mixed comparisons, cherry-picking, gaping omissions and lies.
This is what NBC publishes now?
Having these young female journalists blather away is ridiculous on it's face. They have no life experience, know very little about the world, both lack common sense and a common sense rough picture of the world and have no idea how little they know. So ... they are perfect for telling the rest of us what's going on!
According to the Hail bio Kimmy's been out five years--likely 27 going on 28. In her pic she looks attractive enough--if not a nut job--to land a quality guy. My advice to Kimmy: land a quality guy before your looks start to go and start having babies. If in 20 years when your youngest is in middle school and you've actually learned a bit about the world, you really want to try "journalism" ... give it a go. For now, focus on what's important in life.Replies: @Hail
Additional data-point — Appearance on live television (Feb. 2019) — to be precise, on the China state media’s US service (CGTN America):
Most of us who read comments are text-oriented and do not necessarily readily click/watch video like this, but in this case it helps it helps to see Kimmy in video form rather than only via a carefully selected, setpiece headshot (her Twitter profile pic).
Through video we can also see Kimmy’s mannerisms and hear her voice, how she speaks. She is clearly a native- or native-level US English speaker, but as some commenters here have been known to say, I think it’s still clear she is East Asian even if one heard audio only.
In any case, for the text-oriented, and in case that video ever goes down, here is a little text transcription/highlight of some of her Feb. 2019 appearance on China state media:
Lot of buzzwords, especially the Big D; she writes better than she speaks, in that if the above were an essay or article she would majorly rewrite it: She drops completely the “diversity among designers” point before explaining it; she is speaking in what sound like run-on sentences. In media-commentary appearances like that, it’s best to use ‘periods,’ as it were, liberally. Anyway a distinctly high rate of iSteve-worthy-content-per-hundred-words.
FWIW, I don’t think Kimmy Yam talking this way is necessarily her fault, but that’s another story.
More on Yam here:
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tanyachen/woman-shared-an-emotional-personal-story-inspired-by-crazy
And how she came to be a professional Asian grievance monger. She endured unimaginable oppression in America, like the time a girl told her that her eyes were an ugly shape, or the time that she attended Georgetown University on full scholarship (OK, maybe not the latter). But you will pay for the atrocities you have committed against me, whitey, you will pay and pay! (Girls hold grudges forever).
Yam thinks it's fine to conflate Bangladeshis as 'Asian', so surely it's also OK to conflate ABCs with South Koreans and Malaysian Chinese.
Taiwanese and Bangladeshis… that is about as useful as comparing say Norwegians and Roma because both come from Europe. I think she’s playing a joke on us. I doubt any east Asian considers those people to be their equals.
I think what you’re seeing here is the desire to fit in. Asians, in the American sense of the word, excel at that. They learn very quickly what speech, mannerisms, and ideas are accepted, and which aren’t. I used to work around 1000’s of them in an academic setting, and it was amazing to see the difference that occurred after being off the boat for a few years made. The nail that sticks out gets beat with the hammer and all that.
The only way much of the MSM's commentary makes sense these days is assuming they inhabit the mental universe of 1969.Replies: @Hail, @Jack D
Every month is May 1968.
A man may look at the calendar and see “November 2019,” but he’d be wrong.
She's got the banana shirt, I notice - yellow on the outside and white SJW on the inside.Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Hail, @J.Ross
I suppose that must be deliberate.
Our very own commenter, Twinkie, uses the same self-deprecating reference via his commenter-handle. Would love to hear more from Twinkie on the case of Kimmy Yam.
BTW, her face is not super-flat, but that name sounded more Korean than Chinese. I saw the membership in that Chinese association in that bio you dug up though. (Thanks for doing that regularly too.)
He’s specifically Taiwanese? There are so many reasons why he will never be the candidate, but I didn’t know this one.
Andrew "Gentle Giant" Yang didn't do nothing wrong.Replies: @Jack D
Right. In the Asian community, if you are trying to be “cool” (and not many are) then a “Model Minority” who prides himself on his math ability is the LAST thing you want to be. This is exactly who Kimmy is NOT looking for as a husband. Asian guys who are trying to be cool do rapping and dress like black people and use black slang ( a white person who tries to act black is a wigger so I guess they are chiggers?) Actually committing street crimes is a bit much, though.
Read Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon before you make up your mind.
Oh, on Miss Yummy, she brings up another case of using pure geographic terminology instead of old-timey descriptive terms for ethnic groups. Now it's the APAs, Asian Pacific Americans, instead of the ABCs, American- Born Chinese or the Orientals. Steve here brings up a new one - the CYC - Cloistered Yoopers of the Cloth.
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* Literally Laugh Out LoudReplies: @obwandiyag, @Kratoklastes
You forget FOBs
(I don't know this one.)Replies: @obwandiyag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo85Yaj3iUY
Most of us who read comments are text-oriented and do not necessarily readily click/watch video like this, but in this case it helps it helps to see Kimmy in video form rather than only via a carefully selected, setpiece headshot (her Twitter profile pic).
Through video we can also see Kimmy's mannerisms and hear her voice, how she speaks. She is clearly a native- or native-level US English speaker, but as some commenters here have been known to say, I think it's still clear she is East Asian even if one heard audio only.
In any case, for the text-oriented, and in case that video ever goes down, here is a little text transcription/highlight of some of her Feb. 2019 appearance on China state media:Lot of buzzwords, especially the Big D; she writes better than she speaks, in that if the above were an essay or article she would majorly rewrite it: She drops completely the "diversity among designers" point before explaining it; she is speaking in what sound like run-on sentences. In media-commentary appearances like that, it's best to use 'periods,' as it were, liberally. Anyway a distinctly high rate of iSteve-worthy-content-per-hundred-words.
FWIW, I don't think Kimmy Yam talking this way is necessarily her fault, but that's another story.Replies: @Jack D, @Kratoklastes
I have to disagree. I listened to the audio only and aside from the fact that the subject matter was the Asian equivalent of blackety-black-black talk, her speech itself was 100% standard American English. There was absolutely nothing in her speech that betrayed any Asian-ness.
More on Yam here:
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tanyachen/woman-shared-an-emotional-personal-story-inspired-by-crazy
And how she came to be a professional Asian grievance monger. She endured unimaginable oppression in America, like the time a girl told her that her eyes were an ugly shape, or the time that she attended Georgetown University on full scholarship (OK, maybe not the latter). But you will pay for the atrocities you have committed against me, whitey, you will pay and pay! (Girls hold grudges forever).
The only way much of the MSM's commentary makes sense these days is assuming they inhabit the mental universe of 1969.Replies: @Hail, @Jack D
1969 is a bit late. When it comes to black/white relations, it’s 1955 and Emmett Till has just been dredged up out of the river yesterday, or when it comes to Jew/WASP relations it’s 1927 and Trump has just been arrested at a KKK rally on the way home from blackballing a Jew for country club admission.
Of course historical memory is always selective – to the CPC, the Opium Wars were just yesterday but flooding America with Chinese fentanyl never happened.
Progressive rock sucks. Period. Doesn’t matter who makes it. All you pathetic, sheltered, unrefined gen x bozos on here have shit taste.
It all started with Sgt. Pepper’s. Which wasn’t a bad album for the Beatles. But which gave dumbass rock musicians the idea that they were “artists”! Ta-da-ta-daaa!
And then the deluge.
Would that they’d stuck with Little Richard covers.
Of course historical memory is always selective - to the CPC, the Opium Wars were just yesterday but flooding America with Chinese fentanyl never happened.Replies: @nebulafox
Fair enough. That said, so many of these people seem to be totally upset that they aren’t living in the 1960s and getting to stick it to The Man… even though they ARE The Man now. You listen to Antifa, you’d think that their opponents are getting police sanction and they are at risk of extermination, despite it being if anything the other way around.
I’m not going to bash historical bias entirely, since everybody has one to some extent. The issue is that the more you don’t think you do, the more of a hold it has on you: and it really doesn’t seem as though our Best and Brightest grasp that they are as human as anybody.
>Of course historical memory is always selective – to the CPC, the Opium Wars were just yesterday but flooding America with Chinese fentanyl never happened.
Mainland Chinese history textbooks will make great hay out of the Japanese and KMT’s involvement in drug peddling. Particularly in the case of the former, it fits the narrative perfectly: the big bad guys doping the populace into complacency. I should add, in all fairness, that it isn’t without historical accuracy.
Naturally, though, they’ll decline to add that the CPC was as in on the drug game as anybody before taking power. Everybody was up to their eyeballs in opium cultivation and profiteering during the 1930s: provincial warlords, the KMT, the British in Hong Kong, the Japanese, the Communists, everybody. It was only after the civil war ended in 1949 that there was a true effort to eradicate it once and for all, both on the mainland and on Taiwan.
As for us, I’ve made the late Qing comparison before. It isn’t too late, we’ve just got to be willing to crack down hard. Good luck convincing people on Capitol Hill to have Sackler executed to send a message, though.
Come on. That’s the thing nearly everyone’s been saying about our [very surgically-damaged] First Lady.
Re: Michigan’s Upper Peninsula – it would have to be a *cloistered* nun, but there are no cloistered nuns I know of in Michigan, but my son’s friends here in the UP are Chinese.
There really aren’t that early morning staff meeting, were editors tells the journalists what stories and tips to pursue.
The journalists get contacted by someone or other with a finished story, called a sold-in, or they write about something that bugs them and find a authority to validate the opinion. The editors then gives the go ahead for a write up.
Who or what motivated Kimmy Yam to pen this? Typically you know it when the but appears. If it’s a Special Interest Group they will be quoted at length, if it’s sour grapes some professor or some such will be interviewed. In this case one can reasonably assume that the org Asian Americans Advancing Justice is the prime mover.
She's got the banana shirt, I notice - yellow on the outside and white SJW on the inside.Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Hail, @J.Ross
Did we all miss it?
Yam.
Orange/saffron-colored/yellow on the inside.
Brown on the outside.
Let me tell you about my victimhood.
(Natalie Merchant showing her Lesbo side on this track - more victimhood.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jORFcH5uAjM
Yes, she is. Just not surnominally.
Then here’s another Kim to play Cyrano for you:
The dishonest conflation of Bangladeshis with the Chinese reminds me of this regularly linked (on Reddit) piece, which supposedly “debunks” the “model minority myth”- allegedly “an overt and potent tool of white supremacy… a fiction invented by Whiteness [which] has always been used as a cudgel to denigrate, belittle, or dismiss African American efforts to agitate for political equality, while simultaneously appropriating and limiting the roles that Asian Americans can politically inhabit.”
http://reappropriate.co/2014/08/the-culture-canard-of-the-model-minority-myth-no-racial-gaps-in-academics-arent-due-to-cultural-pathology/
Oh, on Miss Yummy, she brings up another case of using pure geographic terminology instead of old-timey descriptive terms for ethnic groups. Now it's the APAs, Asian Pacific Americans, instead of the ABCs, American- Born Chinese or the Orientals. Steve here brings up a new one - the CYC - Cloistered Yoopers of the Cloth.
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* Literally Laugh Out LoudReplies: @obwandiyag, @Kratoklastes
I remember the first time I heard JAP directed at someone who was very obviously not Japanese (in fact, not remote-ry Asian)… it was about 1980 and it had to be explained to me.
Then I understood why it was pronounced “Jay-Ay-Pee” and not “Jap”.
My interlocutor also explained that Japs were Nips, not Japs; I responded that as I understood it, nips were the things at the pointy end of boobs (i.e., they were the things that Krauts call “brustwartzen” – breast warts… way to fuck up a good thing, Krauts).
- born ca. 1992; raised in Saugerties, New York (94% White, 1% Asian as of 2010);
- BA, Georgetown, May 2014 (Regional Studies: U.S., Canadian, Foreign);
- June 2014, hired by Huffington Post as Associate Editor; promoted to Editor in early 2017; currently listed as Asian-American Affairs Reporter and Asian Voices Editor;
- Member, The Chinese Students and Scholars Association at Georgetown University (GU-CSSA)
She uses this as her profile pic:
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1167882208805179394/yvTMaAxx_400x400.jpg
Her tweet-announcement that she is taking a Twitter-hiatus after she was "attacked by hundreds of people" over the Yang article:Replies: @anon, @schnellandine, @Achmed E. Newman, @Malcolm X-Lax, @jimmyriddle, @Exile, @Kratoklastes
Nobody has mentioned her hair: nobody with hair like that is permitted to comment on social justice, since good hair is racist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo85Yaj3iUY
Most of us who read comments are text-oriented and do not necessarily readily click/watch video like this, but in this case it helps it helps to see Kimmy in video form rather than only via a carefully selected, setpiece headshot (her Twitter profile pic).
Through video we can also see Kimmy's mannerisms and hear her voice, how she speaks. She is clearly a native- or native-level US English speaker, but as some commenters here have been known to say, I think it's still clear she is East Asian even if one heard audio only.
In any case, for the text-oriented, and in case that video ever goes down, here is a little text transcription/highlight of some of her Feb. 2019 appearance on China state media:Lot of buzzwords, especially the Big D; she writes better than she speaks, in that if the above were an essay or article she would majorly rewrite it: She drops completely the "diversity among designers" point before explaining it; she is speaking in what sound like run-on sentences. In media-commentary appearances like that, it's best to use 'periods,' as it were, liberally. Anyway a distinctly high rate of iSteve-worthy-content-per-hundred-words.
FWIW, I don't think Kimmy Yam talking this way is necessarily her fault, but that's another story.Replies: @Jack D, @Kratoklastes
She’s no Han Hyo-joo, Michelle Yeoh or Zhang Ziyi.
Yam thinks it’s fine to conflate Bangladeshis as ‘Asian’, so surely it’s also OK to conflate ABCs with South Koreans and Malaysian Chinese.
And no fun.
Well said, Thea.
For the author, isn’t going by “Kimmy” instead of Kim, a self perpetuating Asian stereotype?
Definitly, India is a seperate continent. “Indian culture” (pretending that a somewhat unified indian culture exists) has less to do with Chinese culture then Russian with British, quite a lot less even as Britain and Russia have some loan words between them and are nominally following the same religion. They also actually share some history.
Now, there are some linkages between India and Iran, but India and China? let alone Korea/Japan/Phillipines.
Vietnam had a Hindu minority, but the Cham essentially arent much of a deal anymore.
The closness between India and China is more akin to the one between Britain and the Ottomans.
Andlew Yang velly velly blight make gleat plezident. Yang not malch gay plide palade like Pete Buttplug and not fleece Uklainians like hollible Biden. Yang give $1000 evely month evelyone velly popular so can dlink 24 ounce ice house all day. Velly velly good idea.
True, Twinkie, right. I guess there’s no reason the male has to be a twinkie and female a banana (something with the cream, maybe?).
BTW, her face is not super-flat, but that name sounded more Korean than Chinese. I saw the membership in that Chinese association in that bio you dug up though. (Thanks for doing that regularly too.)
Yam.
Orange/saffron-colored/yellow on the inside.
Brown on the outside.
Let me tell you about my victimhood.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
Yams. As in candied yams… with marshmallows melted in… sounds juicy. Candy Everybody Wants.:
(Natalie Merchant showing her Lesbo side on this track – more victimhood.)
Also,
Not very meaningful without knowing what the percentage of Bangladeshis are.
Fuel On Board?
(I don’t know this one.)
Sheesh. You just proved beyond the shadow of a doubt you don't live in San Francisco.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
1. People had more courage before Twitter.
2. Sarah Silverman has been unfunny for a looong time.
https://youtu.be/VsNoO8xMs04?t=82Replies: @Anon
Unfortunately, the joke actually is funny, however much I would like it not to be.
Analyzing humor is not something one ever wants to do, but …
The reluctant juror wants to say something socially reprehensible to get off of jury duty:
“I hate chinks.”
The humor is in the fact that this can be divided into “I hate” and “chinks.”
“I hate”: One is not supposed to hate groups of people. Bad.
“chinks”: One is not supposed to use offensive racial epithets. Bad.
The reluctant juror then tries to reverse her offensive statement, but only reverses half of it, leaving the other half: “I love chinks.” That’s funny.
What is interesting is that a version of the joke ending with “I hate Chinese people.” That just isn’t funny. Why? I’m not sure.
“Chinks” is short and schoolyardy and has a funny sound to it, so that may be playing into it. Also, it has a built-in connotation of something that one does not like. You use the term rather than “Chinese people” because “chinks” emplasizes your dislike of Chinese people. On the other hand, “I hate” is not necessarily negative. You are allowed to hate a lot of things, and in fact you are socially allowed to hate people, as long as you don’t hate entire protected groups.
But I still think I haven’t completely figured this out.
Yawn. Another SJW-wannabe. Somebody should tell her that if she really wanted to be different and transgressive, she should get a husband, show off her six kids with him, pose in camo with the buck she just brought down, be seen at a Trump rally, and go around asking people, “Have you accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal savior?”
Miss Yam is (wants to be, represents herself to be) a serious thinker/journalist, but uses as her public-facing profile pic the above (comment-2) on Twitter (also using the twitter handle "kimmythepooh"). Given what Twitter is, maybe this is in the realm of acceptability. But then we also see she uses this as her LinkedIn profile pic:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKTVDqMXkAA6pUQ.jpg
Remembering that she has been a professional journalist for five years, to me this is a puzzling choice.Replies: @Jack D, @anon
Then I understood why it was pronounced "Jay-Ay-Pee" and not "Jap".
My interlocutor also explained that Japs were Nips, not Japs; I responded that as I understood it, nips were the things at the pointy end of boobs (i.e., they were the things that Krauts call "brustwartzen" - breast warts... way to fuck up a good thing, Krauts).Replies: @Twinkie
In 1980’s NYC, JAPs were Jewish-American Princesses.
On moral unseriousness,
Miss Yam is (wants to be, represents herself to be) a serious thinker/journalist, but uses as her public-facing profile pic the above (comment-2) on Twitter (also using the twitter handle “kimmythepooh”). Given what Twitter is, maybe this is in the realm of acceptability. But then we also see she uses this as her LinkedIn profile pic:
Remembering that she has been a professional journalist for five years, to me this is a puzzling choice.
I think we’re turning Japanese.
I think we’re turning Japanese.
I really think so.
(I don't know this one.)Replies: @obwandiyag
Fresh Off Boat.
Sheesh. You just proved beyond the shadow of a doubt you don’t live in San Francisco.
Miss Yam is (wants to be, represents herself to be) a serious thinker/journalist, but uses as her public-facing profile pic the above (comment-2) on Twitter (also using the twitter handle "kimmythepooh"). Given what Twitter is, maybe this is in the realm of acceptability. But then we also see she uses this as her LinkedIn profile pic:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKTVDqMXkAA6pUQ.jpg
Remembering that she has been a professional journalist for five years, to me this is a puzzling choice.Replies: @Jack D, @anon
Women – go figure! Post-menopausal and lesbian women like Hillary can get short haircuts and wear pantsuits, but heterosexual women in their 20s have to balance maintaining their sexual attractiveness to men, which is an important part of their power and identity (for those who have it) with projecting a professional image. It’s a delicate balance and they don’t always succeed. You go too far one way and you look like a butch lesbian and too far in the other direction and you look like an unserious slut. The more attractive the female is (or thinks she is) the more likely she is to err in favor of projecting looks vs projecting seriousness because looks are actually a very powerful tool that give you access, etc.
Miss Yam is (wants to be, represents herself to be) a serious thinker/journalist, but uses as her public-facing profile pic the above (comment-2) on Twitter (also using the twitter handle "kimmythepooh"). Given what Twitter is, maybe this is in the realm of acceptability. But then we also see she uses this as her LinkedIn profile pic:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKTVDqMXkAA6pUQ.jpg
Remembering that she has been a professional journalist for five years, to me this is a puzzling choice.Replies: @Jack D, @anon
I think one of Kimmy’s problems is she wants to be more attractive than she is. It’s a common situation with people who have ego problems. Kimmy believes people think she’s not attractive because she’s Chinese, rather than the fact that, chinese or not, her face matches the symmetry of a horse.
This means that the older she gets, as her patina of youth continues to fade, the worse it’s going to get for her horse face.
Since that cannot possibly be, in Kimmy’s world, her working and social environment will turn more and more anti-asian. She’s gonna have to double down against her imagined ney-sayers be socially relevant.
I hope she at least gets married to a beta white man who can maintain the lines of her fantasy world before that happens.
Otherwise her life course, both professionally and personally, will be one shitty, angry, and lonely enterprise. Imagine being charged with making a living justifying why people never thought you were very attractive, via endless militant social identity screeds.
That’s a tragic cage to be trapped in till you die.
The only thing worse than a horse face, is an angry, mean horse face.
“Asians” mostly hate or dislike one another, just like “Europeans” do. The word Asians to Americans seems to refer only to far east Asia (China, Japan, Korea, etc.) or SE or S Asia (Vietnam, Thailand, India, Pakistan, etc.).
In fact most of the land mass of Asia is not occupied by people Americans think of as Asian, rather Mongols, Turks, etc. people who don’t fit American categories.
As for Ms. Yam, when you criticize a politician for telling bad jokes, or jokes told badly, this is very low hanging fruit. Very few politicos can manage to do it. Self deprecating only. Even then, hard to pull off.
Trump does this better than most because he loves talking about himself and by doing so sandbags the MSM pontificators who think their often crude, cruel and witless jibes will hurt him. Trump is the funniest President in living memory, if not ever. Do Scots Americans take umbrage at his own references to being cheap? Or playing golf creatively? Of course not. Most Asians care nothing about Mr. Yang’s humor either.
One dead giveaway of pervasive cultural Marxism (version: identity 2.1) is its lack of humor and intolerance for genuine funny. Are there any funny commie comics? No. Not even close. Ditto feminist comics. One note Janes. There are funny women in comedy, some of the greats. Just not commies. Fascists and Big C Communists were and are notoriously unfunny. Always a tell.
Sheesh. You just proved beyond the shadow of a doubt you don't live in San Francisco.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
Sure, but I never said I did. Thanks for the reply.
All probably true, but then that makes the choice easy – go for the feminine way, per your nature, and get the hell out of the man’s world of business. I guess the journalism that she is in doesn’t resemble a real business, but you are supposed to be a serious person, as you say. Give those pantsuits to Goodwill, and find a decent guy, Miss Yummy Candi Yam … You’ll make at least one guy happy, assuming you STFU about politics, rather than piss of all of us.
You’re reading too much into this. Kids don’t like their parents’ music. Never have never will. The justifications aren’t important.
Yoopers have a sense of humor. They probably laughed unselfconciously at Yang’s joke. They also laugh at Polish jokes.
Dylan “escapes” by fact of being a jew, ffs.