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From CBS News:

NBA suspends 2019-20 season after Jazz player tests positive for coronavirus
There is no word on when play might resume this season

by Brad Botkin 29 mins ago • 1 min read

After taking the initial step to play games in empty arenas, the NBA issued a statement on Wednesday night that all games will be suspended until further notice after a Utah Jazz player, reportedly Rudy Gobert, tested positive for the coronavirus.

Games that are in action Wednesday night will finish.

We will continue to update this report as more information becomes available.

Movie star Tom Hanks and his wife Rita Wilson have the coronavirus. Ms. Wilson was very nice to my wife 18 years ago at an auto show when they happened to be standing next to each other: she explained all about some car she was interested in.

Best of luck to them.

 
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  1. What are the salary implications? I assume MLB, PGA and, potentially, the NFL etc will all be in the same situation.

    • Replies: @Brian Reilly
    @unit472

    Unit472, Why, President Trump has assured us that there will be relief for wage earners who cannot work due to the Coronavirus®. I am certain that the hard-working men of the NBA will be made whole through the efforts of taxpayers who are proud to contribute! Not so much, I think, for the hot dog vendors and such who wil be out of work.

  2. Glad to see those spoiled, oppressed brats in pro ball taking a knee (to the groin) – eff ’em. And mesmerized, fattened cattle couch ‘taters can get up and play ball themselves. Eff them, too.

    Now that life’s become 24/7 Love In The Time Of Corona, here’s Not The Onion: https://www.zerohedge.com/health/islamic-scholar-who-said-coronavirus-was-allahs-punishment-gets-coronavirus

    And here’s Congresstwit Al-Exandria Occluded-Cognition: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/straight-racist-aoc-slams-people-not-patroning-chinese-restaurants-due-coronavirus

    I wonder how the mail-order Far East bride biz is taking all of this. Go long Stepford Wives, LLC.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Bard of Bumperstickers

    “Now that life’s become 24/7 Love In The Time Of Corona”

    A lovely reference to a great novel. Congratulations and thanks!

    Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers

  3. Shouldn’t Gobert have to retire immediately like Magic Johnson had done?

    • Replies: @PaceLaw
    @Ron Mexico

    Is that you Mike Vick? If so, what are you talking about? Magic Johnson continued playing for many years after his HIV announcement.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Brian Reilly

  4. This is the guy who tested positive for wuflu:

    • Thanks: unit472
  5. Anon[126] • Disclaimer says:

    If there is something you guys and gals have been waiting to buy, now is the time to get it. Ive bought a new mower, weed eater, and electric razor in the past 3 days myself. The media is trying to cause a recession/depression to blame on Trump in an election year. I hope righties like myself consxiously thwart that effort, and thwart the DNC this November.

    • Agree: Lot, Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • LOL: AKAHorace
    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Anon

    The media didn't shut down Italy to blame Trump. Yeah, they want Trump to lose, but Trump's not going to beat them by whistling past the graveyard on this. He's got to stop the virus from exploding within the next month. Plenty of time after that to goose the economy to boost his reelection chances.

    Replies: @Odds, @Anonymous, @Anon7

    , @Obamahotep
    @Anon

    Also you may not be able to buy these things or get them delivered in a few months, or less.

    , @Chief Seattle
    @Anon

    I was the biggest Trump supporter until I learned about the epic CDC fail. More than a month to test people and yet only 450 were tested nationwide by March 2nd. And then Trump came out and blamed Democrats or something ridiculous.

    I love it as much as the next guy when he ridicules the elites and points out the emperor has no clothes. But you can't bully a virus. I mean, he tried, but it does zero good. If he had fired his fat*** CDC director on day 1 I'd have had retained a lot of respect for Trump. But instead he's trying to talk up the stock market. WTF?

    So, if all Trump cares about is the stock market, I'm not buying jack. If it takes an instant depression to get his administration to pay attention and get some darn masks, gloves, hand san, and test kits out to the people, then that's what it takes.

    His democratic rival is a senile idiot too. Not sure what the options are at this point.

    Replies: @epebble, @SanJoaquinSam, @Anon

    , @Louis Renault
    @Anon

    I'm in the market for a new congresswoman, my current one is a complete maroon.

    , @Jussie Smollett
    @Anon


    If there is something you guys and gals have been waiting to buy, now is the time to get it. Ive bought a new mower, weed eater, and electric razor in the past 3 days myself.
     
    I hear ya bro. We gots to support our economy. Today, I went on Amazon and bought 10 new nooses.
  6. Perhaps the stars are right and the Elder Gods really are returning….

  7. I don’t get this at all. If it’s about the fan safety, that’s one thing. If it’s about the players, just test them all before each game. If they test comes up negative send ’em out there. So what if one player has it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Bragadocious

    Tests take days. Apparently, the Cleveland Clinic has developed one that takes 8 hours. Not feasible.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Justvisiting
    @Bragadocious

    It turns out that there has been a world class clusterf&^% with the mechanics of the testing.

    The test kit is just the first step. Then a lab needs certain lab supplies and equipment to complete the testing.

    Apparently there are shortages of lab supplies in what looks like forty five states. (The other states were deemed high priority by CDC, have adequate lab supplies, and are testing at a decent rate.)

    But here is the catch--the states are afraid to admit they don't have the supplies because that would embarrass the federal .gov folks that can get them the supplies they need!

    So, we have no transparency at the state level and the testing level is extremely low.

    It is great to give speeches in Washington DC. But, if you are not on top of the details you will look like a total fool--every time.

    Ref: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2020/03/11/coronavirus-covid-19-response-hurt-by-shortage-testing-components/5013586002/

    , @Clifford brown
    @Bragadocious

    Players' union is not interested in that.

  8. I don’t give a darn about the NBA as long as China LeBron is its face. Talk about a corporate entity that has sold Americans and America down the river to the Chicoms. Geez. Eff off, NBA. You won’t be missed.

  9. Anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump’s address tonight was perfect … for Feb 11.

    Problem is it’s now Mar 11.

    Me thinks Cuomo called out the Guard on the New Rochelle outbreak because they know it’s the nasty V-strain from Italy.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    Me thinks Cuomo called out the Guard on the New Rochelle outbreak because they know it’s the nasty V-strain from Italy.
     
    As opposed to the nasty C-strain from Italy, i.e., the Cuomo family.


    You must take the "V" strain
    To go to Sugar Hill, way up in Harlem

  10. ESPN is reporting that the Knicks, Cavs, Celtics, Pistons and Raptors are also being told to self-quarantine.

  11. This is big. I wonder how the people who said, “It’s just the flu” feel now. The precautionary principle should have been adhered to earlier. Exponential growth can sneak up on you real fast!

    It might be time to go live in a hut on a mountain and read some Russian novels for a few months.

    • Replies: @Polynikes
    @tanabear

    It is just a more dangerous version of the flu. The panic of the unknown will cause more damage, but at risk people should still be protected. Prepare for the worst. Young healthy people should avoid panic and carry on.

    Replies: @Elli

    , @Intelligent Dasein
    @tanabear


    This is big. I wonder how the people who said, “It’s just the flu” feel now.
     
    As far as the virus itself goes, it does not appear to be any more dangerous than a bad case of the flu. Now don't get me wrong; bad cases of the flu are plenty bad enough and do warrant legitimate concern. But the public response to this coronavirus has been orders of magnitude more severe than anything proportionate to the danger. We have entire countries basically shutting down. Globalism is immolating itself in an orgy of virtue signalling insanity as everything gets cancelled and the stock indices drop 5% each day. This is truly a sight to behold. It's like the Angel of Death has returned to do justice upon the Earth and only those with the blood of the lamb on their lintel will escape.

    Replies: @Ali Choudhury

    , @Mr. Anon
    @tanabear

    About 5,000 people have died of CoV-19 World-wide since November.

    From October 1, 2019 through Feb. 29 of this year, the CDC has estimated that something like 20,000 - 50,000 people have died from the flu, just in the U.S. alone.

    The CDC estimated that, World-wide, nearly 300,000 people died in the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, and further estimated that 80% of those who died were younger than 65. Remember that? I had to look up what year that happened, because I couldn't remember. The World didn't go apes**t over that pandemic.

    I wonder if the World's response to CoV-19 isn't just the collective scream of the boomer generation coming to grips with its' own mortality.

    Replies: @Kim, @Anonymous, @theMann

  12. It’s almost as if allowing anyone, anywhere to get on an airplane and go anyplace, or even settle in a nation with no vetting whatsoever is a bad idea….

    Nahhhh!

  13. ‘Coz a Jazzle got some jizzle in his whizzle,
    the bizzle of the frizzles gonna fizzle.

  14. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bragadocious
    I don't get this at all. If it's about the fan safety, that's one thing. If it's about the players, just test them all before each game. If they test comes up negative send 'em out there. So what if one player has it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Justvisiting, @Clifford brown

    Tests take days. Apparently, the Cleveland Clinic has developed one that takes 8 hours. Not feasible.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Anonymous

    +1

    In addition the tests may not be able to detect the virus in the first few days you have it. The detectability period versus the contagious period overlap isn't really known at this point.

  15. @Anonymous
    Trump's address tonight was perfect ... for Feb 11.

    Problem is it's now Mar 11.

    Me thinks Cuomo called out the Guard on the New Rochelle outbreak because they know it's the nasty V-strain from Italy.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Me thinks Cuomo called out the Guard on the New Rochelle outbreak because they know it’s the nasty V-strain from Italy.

    As opposed to the nasty C-strain from Italy, i.e., the Cuomo family.

    You must take the “V” strain
    To go to Sugar Hill, way up in Harlem

  16. @tanabear
    This is big. I wonder how the people who said, "It's just the flu" feel now. The precautionary principle should have been adhered to earlier. Exponential growth can sneak up on you real fast!

    It might be time to go live in a hut on a mountain and read some Russian novels for a few months.

    Replies: @Polynikes, @Intelligent Dasein, @Mr. Anon

    It is just a more dangerous version of the flu. The panic of the unknown will cause more damage, but at risk people should still be protected. Prepare for the worst. Young healthy people should avoid panic and carry on.

    • Replies: @Elli
    @Polynikes


    Young healthy people should avoid panic and carry on.
     
    Unless they want their parents to die.

    Everyone should take precautions.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

  17. Trump thought no testing would make things better.

  18. NBA Season Suspended ???

    The plague emergency is getting really serious. The end is nigh.

    No b-ball on TV means beaucoup lost ad revenue. Think of all the Nike sneaks that won’t be sold.

  19. I wonder if the ratings would be affected, if they televised the games without the crowds, or whether the play would be affected. I mean hypothetically – I don’t expect them to do it.

  20. Not sure if they’ll be able to enforce this but but who thought El Salvador would have a more sane response to this than most developed countries. I didn’t realize that the President of El Salvador was an Arab.

    https://news.yahoo.com/el-salvador-bans-foreigners-entering-country-over-coronavirus-000128870.html

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @t

    If you're going to do it, the Israeli approach as stated (everyone gets a 14 day quarantine before entering the country) seems sensible enough. If you really need to go there, enjoy your waiting period. Otherwise just reschedule your visit.

  21. NBA Season Suspended

    Permanently, i hope.

    • Agree: Lot, Abe
  22. It’s still early but I imagine Gobert is the front runner for the covetted iSteve Male of the Year Award.

  23. What about White guys who like to self-stimulate while watching tall Black men run with the ball? Might get out of their trance! Then maybe focus on the fate of their people?

  24. @Anon
    If there is something you guys and gals have been waiting to buy, now is the time to get it. Ive bought a new mower, weed eater, and electric razor in the past 3 days myself. The media is trying to cause a recession/depression to blame on Trump in an election year. I hope righties like myself consxiously thwart that effort, and thwart the DNC this November.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Obamahotep, @Chief Seattle, @Louis Renault, @Jussie Smollett

    The media didn’t shut down Italy to blame Trump. Yeah, they want Trump to lose, but Trump’s not going to beat them by whistling past the graveyard on this. He’s got to stop the virus from exploding within the next month. Plenty of time after that to goose the economy to boost his reelection chances.

    • Replies: @Odds
    @Dave Pinsen

    I think it’s too late for stopping this now. Just personally quarantine yourself and distance yourself at all times.

    , @Anonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    Just shut down the goddamn country for a week at a time. The virus is already here. Close all schools. Ban gatherings of more than 5 people. Send out checks electronically to everyone who filed a tax return for 2017. Get the damn thing done. End this now. We don’t have enough ventilators.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Anon7
    @Dave Pinsen

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcsZjfs2cB4

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    • Disagree: Lot
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Rochelle

    Indeed.

  26. @Dave Pinsen
    @Anon

    The media didn't shut down Italy to blame Trump. Yeah, they want Trump to lose, but Trump's not going to beat them by whistling past the graveyard on this. He's got to stop the virus from exploding within the next month. Plenty of time after that to goose the economy to boost his reelection chances.

    Replies: @Odds, @Anonymous, @Anon7

    I think it’s too late for stopping this now. Just personally quarantine yourself and distance yourself at all times.

  27. @Anon
    If there is something you guys and gals have been waiting to buy, now is the time to get it. Ive bought a new mower, weed eater, and electric razor in the past 3 days myself. The media is trying to cause a recession/depression to blame on Trump in an election year. I hope righties like myself consxiously thwart that effort, and thwart the DNC this November.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Obamahotep, @Chief Seattle, @Louis Renault, @Jussie Smollett

    Also you may not be able to buy these things or get them delivered in a few months, or less.

  28. I am learning Gung-Fu to defeat the Wuchan virus.

    Not sure what martial art school Wuchan is though. Can posters here help ?

  29. Anonymous[367] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    @Anon

    The media didn't shut down Italy to blame Trump. Yeah, they want Trump to lose, but Trump's not going to beat them by whistling past the graveyard on this. He's got to stop the virus from exploding within the next month. Plenty of time after that to goose the economy to boost his reelection chances.

    Replies: @Odds, @Anonymous, @Anon7

    Just shut down the goddamn country for a week at a time. The virus is already here. Close all schools. Ban gatherings of more than 5 people. Send out checks electronically to everyone who filed a tax return for 2017. Get the damn thing done. End this now. We don’t have enough ventilators.

    • Agree: Coemgen
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    Just shut down the goddamn country for a week at a time.
     
    What do you mean by “a week at a time”?

    Replies: @Anonymous

  30. @Polynikes
    @tanabear

    It is just a more dangerous version of the flu. The panic of the unknown will cause more damage, but at risk people should still be protected. Prepare for the worst. Young healthy people should avoid panic and carry on.

    Replies: @Elli

    Young healthy people should avoid panic and carry on.

    Unless they want their parents to die.

    Everyone should take precautions.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Elli

    It's tragic when a child dies before their parents. That's why I hope my parents die long before me.

  31. @Anon
    If there is something you guys and gals have been waiting to buy, now is the time to get it. Ive bought a new mower, weed eater, and electric razor in the past 3 days myself. The media is trying to cause a recession/depression to blame on Trump in an election year. I hope righties like myself consxiously thwart that effort, and thwart the DNC this November.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Obamahotep, @Chief Seattle, @Louis Renault, @Jussie Smollett

    I was the biggest Trump supporter until I learned about the epic CDC fail. More than a month to test people and yet only 450 were tested nationwide by March 2nd. And then Trump came out and blamed Democrats or something ridiculous.

    I love it as much as the next guy when he ridicules the elites and points out the emperor has no clothes. But you can’t bully a virus. I mean, he tried, but it does zero good. If he had fired his fat*** CDC director on day 1 I’d have had retained a lot of respect for Trump. But instead he’s trying to talk up the stock market. WTF?

    So, if all Trump cares about is the stock market, I’m not buying jack. If it takes an instant depression to get his administration to pay attention and get some darn masks, gloves, hand san, and test kits out to the people, then that’s what it takes.

    His democratic rival is a senile idiot too. Not sure what the options are at this point.

    • Replies: @epebble
    @Chief Seattle

    I am just outside Washington State line, our local NBC affiliate has been having continuous CV programming. Today they spoke with WA and OR public health people; Absolute tragedy with respect to providing test kits; they are getting single digit and double digit usable kits; Many are missing a crucial reagent or two, making it useless. WA has thousands and may be tens of thousands probably infected and no way to be tested. Same in OR, NY everywhere. This is looking like a tragedy unfolding like Italy. A WA hospital chief is already terrified of Italy scenario with respect to ICU and equipment.
    In two to three weeks, we may be where Italy is today.

    Replies: @epebble, @Anonymous

    , @SanJoaquinSam
    @Chief Seattle


    "I was the biggest Trump supporter until I learned about the epic CDC fail."

     

    Thank you ShareBlue troll. You may head back to Reddit now.

    Replies: @Chief Seattle

    , @Anon
    @Chief Seattle

    I don't think it's fair to blame Trump for the testing reagent screwup. That was more likely an affirmative action FUBAR by a low level "STEM" employee of CDC or a supplier, a collapsing bridges problem. Longer term, it's because of overregulation and centralization, something that should be fixed, but which has not been at the top of the list of any recent president. You can only do so many things, and you only have so much political capital. Realistically, anything Trump would try to change at the CDC would result in "science denialist!" cries.

    And let's say he tries to close schools: "URMs need breakfast and lunch, and they don't have computers for distance learning!" Translation: Don't release mobs of black boys into our white communities."

    Nothing Trump could do would go unpunished.

  32. Anonymous[382] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve

    A question for Greg Cochran or one of your readers with some expertise in virology. There is strong DNA evidence that the Covid19 outbreak is likely related to some sort of transmission event to humans from bats. Can this Covid19 virus be transferred from bats or humans to other animals, in particular livestock animals? The reason I ask is that the geniuses in Houston decided just today to cancel the Houston Livestock Show & Rodeo after a whole week of hosting events. HL&R is the largest indoor livestock exhibition and rodeo in the world with attendance of over 2,000,000 people each year.

    Everyone here in Houston was worried about intra-human transmission but I’m beginning to wonder if we could destroy our food supply with transmission of this virus to farm animals like chicken, cattle, and pigs. My god, imagine the implications.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @Anonymous

    A dog tested positive, IIRC

    Replies: @reactionry

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    transmission of this virus to farm animals like chicken, cattle, and pigs
     
    Theoretically always possible, practically unlikely. Lots of factors are in play beyond the mere "bind to the receptor and get inside the cell". The so-called restriction factors are numerous and diverse. Think of them as the reason you dog does not get measles and you don't get canine parainfluenza. Or that we are immune to most viruses that thrive in monkeys.

    Or if you want another angle: that famous in-lab mutation of the avian flu that enabled the virus to infect mammals (ferrets, in this case). Hailed as the super-duper danger that, if escaped the lab, cold spell the end of the world. But the truth is that it was not very infectious to ferrets. It was still a lot of effort to infect the animals. If that virus were to escape the lab, it would be a total dead-end - it was not fit enough for either birds or mammals.

    , @Lockean Proviso
    @Anonymous

    "I’m beginning to wonder if we could destroy our food supply with transmission of this virus to farm animals like chicken, cattle, and pigs. My god, imagine the implications."


    Don't have the link, but did read recently that people can and in at least one case did pass it on to their pet dog or cat. Let's hope livestock and birds don't get it.

    Fortunately plants don't, so we can eat the beans and grain instead of feeding it to animals and eating them. That's more efficient too, though maybe with a population decline less of a concern.

  33. @tanabear
    This is big. I wonder how the people who said, "It's just the flu" feel now. The precautionary principle should have been adhered to earlier. Exponential growth can sneak up on you real fast!

    It might be time to go live in a hut on a mountain and read some Russian novels for a few months.

    Replies: @Polynikes, @Intelligent Dasein, @Mr. Anon

    This is big. I wonder how the people who said, “It’s just the flu” feel now.

    As far as the virus itself goes, it does not appear to be any more dangerous than a bad case of the flu. Now don’t get me wrong; bad cases of the flu are plenty bad enough and do warrant legitimate concern. But the public response to this coronavirus has been orders of magnitude more severe than anything proportionate to the danger. We have entire countries basically shutting down. Globalism is immolating itself in an orgy of virtue signalling insanity as everything gets cancelled and the stock indices drop 5% each day. This is truly a sight to behold. It’s like the Angel of Death has returned to do justice upon the Earth and only those with the blood of the lamb on their lintel will escape.

    • Replies: @Ali Choudhury
    @Intelligent Dasein

    If you are 70 plus and have diabetes, hypertension etc. you are looking at an 8% plus mortality rate. If you are 80 plus that goes to 15%. The need for hospitalisation for a lot of cases is likely to overwhelm many health systems. There is also the knock-on effect of people with urgent healthcare needs being denied treatment due to a lack of doctors and nurses to look after them That will also lead to excess deaths. Huge problem for the US where there is a big shortage of beds for acute care.

    Replies: @Bill H

  34. @Chief Seattle
    @Anon

    I was the biggest Trump supporter until I learned about the epic CDC fail. More than a month to test people and yet only 450 were tested nationwide by March 2nd. And then Trump came out and blamed Democrats or something ridiculous.

    I love it as much as the next guy when he ridicules the elites and points out the emperor has no clothes. But you can't bully a virus. I mean, he tried, but it does zero good. If he had fired his fat*** CDC director on day 1 I'd have had retained a lot of respect for Trump. But instead he's trying to talk up the stock market. WTF?

    So, if all Trump cares about is the stock market, I'm not buying jack. If it takes an instant depression to get his administration to pay attention and get some darn masks, gloves, hand san, and test kits out to the people, then that's what it takes.

    His democratic rival is a senile idiot too. Not sure what the options are at this point.

    Replies: @epebble, @SanJoaquinSam, @Anon

    I am just outside Washington State line, our local NBC affiliate has been having continuous CV programming. Today they spoke with WA and OR public health people; Absolute tragedy with respect to providing test kits; they are getting single digit and double digit usable kits; Many are missing a crucial reagent or two, making it useless. WA has thousands and may be tens of thousands probably infected and no way to be tested. Same in OR, NY everywhere. This is looking like a tragedy unfolding like Italy. A WA hospital chief is already terrified of Italy scenario with respect to ICU and equipment.
    In two to three weeks, we may be where Italy is today.

    • Replies: @epebble
    @epebble

    Italy's story is well documented here: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/who-gets-hospital-bed/607807/

    There is a link to their triage document. It is in Italian. If somebody can find an English translation, I would like to read. There is something unreal about how life or death decisions are made, literally.

    Replies: @Lockean Proviso

    , @Anonymous
    @epebble


    As far as the virus itself goes, it does not appear to be any more dangerous than a bad case of the flu. Now don’t get me wrong; bad cases of the flu are plenty bad enough and do warrant legitimate concern. But the public response to this coronavirus has been orders of magnitude more severe than anything proportionate to the danger.
     
    Wrong, Dr. Dum Dum...

    Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told lawmakers during a House Oversight Committee hearing Wednesday that COVID-19 — the disease caused by the novel coronavirus — is probably about 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu.

    https://theweek.com/speedreads/901470/coronavirus-10-times-more-lethal-than-seasonal-flu-trumps-task-force-immunologist-says

    The CT scans and x-rays of coronavirus sufferers' lungs - taken after they came down with symptoms such as a fever and cough - show a pattern of abnormalities similar to SARS and MERS


    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/coronavirus-x-rays-show-terrifying-21672219
  35. Anonymous[768] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    Just shut down the goddamn country for a week at a time. The virus is already here. Close all schools. Ban gatherings of more than 5 people. Send out checks electronically to everyone who filed a tax return for 2017. Get the damn thing done. End this now. We don’t have enough ventilators.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Just shut down the goddamn country for a week at a time.

    What do you mean by “a week at a time”?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Pragmatic gatekeeping

  36. @Chief Seattle
    @Anon

    I was the biggest Trump supporter until I learned about the epic CDC fail. More than a month to test people and yet only 450 were tested nationwide by March 2nd. And then Trump came out and blamed Democrats or something ridiculous.

    I love it as much as the next guy when he ridicules the elites and points out the emperor has no clothes. But you can't bully a virus. I mean, he tried, but it does zero good. If he had fired his fat*** CDC director on day 1 I'd have had retained a lot of respect for Trump. But instead he's trying to talk up the stock market. WTF?

    So, if all Trump cares about is the stock market, I'm not buying jack. If it takes an instant depression to get his administration to pay attention and get some darn masks, gloves, hand san, and test kits out to the people, then that's what it takes.

    His democratic rival is a senile idiot too. Not sure what the options are at this point.

    Replies: @epebble, @SanJoaquinSam, @Anon

    “I was the biggest Trump supporter until I learned about the epic CDC fail.”

    Thank you ShareBlue troll. You may head back to Reddit now.

    • Replies: @Chief Seattle
    @SanJoaquinSam

    Take it for what you will, I'm sure there's a lot of reddit trolls hiding out here waiting to be the next Tiny Duck.

  37. @Anon
    If there is something you guys and gals have been waiting to buy, now is the time to get it. Ive bought a new mower, weed eater, and electric razor in the past 3 days myself. The media is trying to cause a recession/depression to blame on Trump in an election year. I hope righties like myself consxiously thwart that effort, and thwart the DNC this November.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Obamahotep, @Chief Seattle, @Louis Renault, @Jussie Smollett

    I’m in the market for a new congresswoman, my current one is a complete maroon.

  38. @epebble
    @Chief Seattle

    I am just outside Washington State line, our local NBC affiliate has been having continuous CV programming. Today they spoke with WA and OR public health people; Absolute tragedy with respect to providing test kits; they are getting single digit and double digit usable kits; Many are missing a crucial reagent or two, making it useless. WA has thousands and may be tens of thousands probably infected and no way to be tested. Same in OR, NY everywhere. This is looking like a tragedy unfolding like Italy. A WA hospital chief is already terrified of Italy scenario with respect to ICU and equipment.
    In two to three weeks, we may be where Italy is today.

    Replies: @epebble, @Anonymous

    Italy’s story is well documented here: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/who-gets-hospital-bed/607807/

    There is a link to their triage document. It is in Italian. If somebody can find an English translation, I would like to read. There is something unreal about how life or death decisions are made, literally.

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
    @epebble

    Italian triage: Va bene, boomer

    "Ok, boomer."

  39. @Anonymous
    @Bragadocious

    Tests take days. Apparently, the Cleveland Clinic has developed one that takes 8 hours. Not feasible.

    Replies: @Anon

    +1

    In addition the tests may not be able to detect the virus in the first few days you have it. The detectability period versus the contagious period overlap isn’t really known at this point.

  40. @Anonymous
    Steve

    A question for Greg Cochran or one of your readers with some expertise in virology. There is strong DNA evidence that the Covid19 outbreak is likely related to some sort of transmission event to humans from bats. Can this Covid19 virus be transferred from bats or humans to other animals, in particular livestock animals? The reason I ask is that the geniuses in Houston decided just today to cancel the Houston Livestock Show & Rodeo after a whole week of hosting events. HL&R is the largest indoor livestock exhibition and rodeo in the world with attendance of over 2,000,000 people each year.

    Everyone here in Houston was worried about intra-human transmission but I'm beginning to wonder if we could destroy our food supply with transmission of this virus to farm animals like chicken, cattle, and pigs. My god, imagine the implications.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal, @Anonymous, @Lockean Proviso

    A dog tested positive, IIRC

    • Replies: @reactionry
    @Paleo Liberal

    The Moor's Last Rodeo?

    The Corona Chien barks, but the disease-ridden Central American caravan moves on.


    See also: Un Chien Andalou, Spanish Muslim intent on avenging the "Andalusian Tragedy" gasps after encounter with the lovely Corona Chan, The Moor's Last Sigh

    Also see: El Salvador bans foreigners, but its caravans move on, Salvador Dali, Cornish makes comeback from the dead, Hello Dolly Pentreath!

  41. @Dave Pinsen
    @Anon

    The media didn't shut down Italy to blame Trump. Yeah, they want Trump to lose, but Trump's not going to beat them by whistling past the graveyard on this. He's got to stop the virus from exploding within the next month. Plenty of time after that to goose the economy to boost his reelection chances.

    Replies: @Odds, @Anonymous, @Anon7

  42. No, Not Ari Fleischer Or The Keyser Söze Gang

    In other sports related news, the star of Castaway announced that he has contracted Wilson’s Disease (characterized by extreme social distancing, hallucinations and prolonged “conversations” with a volleyball), likely acquired by his association with the nefarious Kayser-Fleischer ring, according to Copper Age Pervert News.

    [MORE]

    Hanks’ wife added that she anticipates starring in an upcoming cinematic tribute to the roaring 2020’s as a “liver flapper.”

    See also: Tom Hanks, Afghanistan, Charlie Wilson’s Disease

  43. Anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Horny minx Ilhan Omar got married to her campaign worker lover boy. The soap opera goes on.

    Maybe she wears the headgear to assure her hometown voters that she’s keeping it real?

    Anyway the new husband is a white guy. Presumably regular American not Muslim. He’s probably athiest or unitarian etc. She can’t convert without getting beheaded amirite?

    Anyway let’s keep our eyes on the tigress. She’s hot and she’s always got some crazy nonsense going on under the surface…

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Anonymous


    OT: Horny minx Ilhan Omar got married to her campaign worker lover boy.

     

    I hope it's not a brother this time.
  44. Sad to say, but in the minds of many people, the Coronavirus isn’t real until a celebrity catches it.

  45. @Bragadocious
    I don't get this at all. If it's about the fan safety, that's one thing. If it's about the players, just test them all before each game. If they test comes up negative send 'em out there. So what if one player has it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Justvisiting, @Clifford brown

    It turns out that there has been a world class clusterf&^% with the mechanics of the testing.

    The test kit is just the first step. Then a lab needs certain lab supplies and equipment to complete the testing.

    Apparently there are shortages of lab supplies in what looks like forty five states. (The other states were deemed high priority by CDC, have adequate lab supplies, and are testing at a decent rate.)

    But here is the catch–the states are afraid to admit they don’t have the supplies because that would embarrass the federal .gov folks that can get them the supplies they need!

    So, we have no transparency at the state level and the testing level is extremely low.

    It is great to give speeches in Washington DC. But, if you are not on top of the details you will look like a total fool–every time.

    Ref: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2020/03/11/coronavirus-covid-19-response-hurt-by-shortage-testing-components/5013586002/

  46. *Insert joke about black guys not going to work here*

    More seriously, is this is a good plan? Usually, in a time of crisis, having live sporting/exciting events on TV decreases the number of itchy young men going out and causing issues.

    During the aftermath of the Martin Luther King asssasination, the folks in Boston got James Brown to give away a concert for free on live TV while in a near-empty auditorium, thereby decreasing the number of angry black men on the streets or in the crowd getting wild:

    https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2017/04/05/james-brown-saved-boston-king/

    This NBA cancellation has all the ear marks of making teenage and 20 year old black men more likely to go out during any lockdowns and cause mischief or worse. Given that the NBA is owned by China, is China delivering a one-two punch to get American black neighborhoods to burn?

    Italy, I believe, is letting the soccer matches go on, just indoors in front of empty stadiums. I think that’s a better plan, it’ll keep sports fans at home watching and cheering rather than looking for something to do.

  47. @Elli
    @Polynikes


    Young healthy people should avoid panic and carry on.
     
    Unless they want their parents to die.

    Everyone should take precautions.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    It’s tragic when a child dies before their parents. That’s why I hope my parents die long before me.

  48. @Intelligent Dasein
    @tanabear


    This is big. I wonder how the people who said, “It’s just the flu” feel now.
     
    As far as the virus itself goes, it does not appear to be any more dangerous than a bad case of the flu. Now don't get me wrong; bad cases of the flu are plenty bad enough and do warrant legitimate concern. But the public response to this coronavirus has been orders of magnitude more severe than anything proportionate to the danger. We have entire countries basically shutting down. Globalism is immolating itself in an orgy of virtue signalling insanity as everything gets cancelled and the stock indices drop 5% each day. This is truly a sight to behold. It's like the Angel of Death has returned to do justice upon the Earth and only those with the blood of the lamb on their lintel will escape.

    Replies: @Ali Choudhury

    If you are 70 plus and have diabetes, hypertension etc. you are looking at an 8% plus mortality rate. If you are 80 plus that goes to 15%. The need for hospitalisation for a lot of cases is likely to overwhelm many health systems. There is also the knock-on effect of people with urgent healthcare needs being denied treatment due to a lack of doctors and nurses to look after them That will also lead to excess deaths. Huge problem for the US where there is a big shortage of beds for acute care.

    • Replies: @Bill H
    @Ali Choudhury

    "If you are 70 plus and have diabetes, hypertension etc. you are looking at an 8% plus mortality rate. "

    In that statistical category you have at least an 8% chance of dying from a simple fall. At any age and health status you have an 8% chance of getting killed by a drunk driver by simply driving on the freeway at midnight on Friday night.

    I'm 76, have heart arrythmias and emphysema and have had three strokes. Hell, I think a 92% chance of staying alive is great.

    Replies: @Ali Choudhury

  49. Anon[275] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chief Seattle
    @Anon

    I was the biggest Trump supporter until I learned about the epic CDC fail. More than a month to test people and yet only 450 were tested nationwide by March 2nd. And then Trump came out and blamed Democrats or something ridiculous.

    I love it as much as the next guy when he ridicules the elites and points out the emperor has no clothes. But you can't bully a virus. I mean, he tried, but it does zero good. If he had fired his fat*** CDC director on day 1 I'd have had retained a lot of respect for Trump. But instead he's trying to talk up the stock market. WTF?

    So, if all Trump cares about is the stock market, I'm not buying jack. If it takes an instant depression to get his administration to pay attention and get some darn masks, gloves, hand san, and test kits out to the people, then that's what it takes.

    His democratic rival is a senile idiot too. Not sure what the options are at this point.

    Replies: @epebble, @SanJoaquinSam, @Anon

    I don’t think it’s fair to blame Trump for the testing reagent screwup. That was more likely an affirmative action FUBAR by a low level “STEM” employee of CDC or a supplier, a collapsing bridges problem. Longer term, it’s because of overregulation and centralization, something that should be fixed, but which has not been at the top of the list of any recent president. You can only do so many things, and you only have so much political capital. Realistically, anything Trump would try to change at the CDC would result in “science denialist!” cries.

    And let’s say he tries to close schools: “URMs need breakfast and lunch, and they don’t have computers for distance learning!” Translation: Don’t release mobs of black boys into our white communities.”

    Nothing Trump could do would go unpunished.

  50. @SanJoaquinSam
    @Chief Seattle


    "I was the biggest Trump supporter until I learned about the epic CDC fail."

     

    Thank you ShareBlue troll. You may head back to Reddit now.

    Replies: @Chief Seattle

    Take it for what you will, I’m sure there’s a lot of reddit trolls hiding out here waiting to be the next Tiny Duck.

  51. @Paleo Liberal
    @Anonymous

    A dog tested positive, IIRC

    Replies: @reactionry

    The Moor’s Last Rodeo?

    The Corona Chien barks, but the disease-ridden Central American caravan moves on.

    See also: Un Chien Andalou, Spanish Muslim intent on avenging the “Andalusian Tragedy” gasps after encounter with the lovely Corona Chan, The Moor’s Last Sigh

    Also see: El Salvador bans foreigners, but its caravans move on, Salvador Dali, Cornish makes comeback from the dead, Hello Dolly Pentreath!

  52. Instead of suspending the season, I think they should just play in BSL-4 environmental suits.

  53. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Steve

    A question for Greg Cochran or one of your readers with some expertise in virology. There is strong DNA evidence that the Covid19 outbreak is likely related to some sort of transmission event to humans from bats. Can this Covid19 virus be transferred from bats or humans to other animals, in particular livestock animals? The reason I ask is that the geniuses in Houston decided just today to cancel the Houston Livestock Show & Rodeo after a whole week of hosting events. HL&R is the largest indoor livestock exhibition and rodeo in the world with attendance of over 2,000,000 people each year.

    Everyone here in Houston was worried about intra-human transmission but I'm beginning to wonder if we could destroy our food supply with transmission of this virus to farm animals like chicken, cattle, and pigs. My god, imagine the implications.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal, @Anonymous, @Lockean Proviso

    transmission of this virus to farm animals like chicken, cattle, and pigs

    Theoretically always possible, practically unlikely. Lots of factors are in play beyond the mere “bind to the receptor and get inside the cell”. The so-called restriction factors are numerous and diverse. Think of them as the reason you dog does not get measles and you don’t get canine parainfluenza. Or that we are immune to most viruses that thrive in monkeys.

    Or if you want another angle: that famous in-lab mutation of the avian flu that enabled the virus to infect mammals (ferrets, in this case). Hailed as the super-duper danger that, if escaped the lab, cold spell the end of the world. But the truth is that it was not very infectious to ferrets. It was still a lot of effort to infect the animals. If that virus were to escape the lab, it would be a total dead-end – it was not fit enough for either birds or mammals.

  54. @Bragadocious
    I don't get this at all. If it's about the fan safety, that's one thing. If it's about the players, just test them all before each game. If they test comes up negative send 'em out there. So what if one player has it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Justvisiting, @Clifford brown

    Players’ union is not interested in that.

  55. @Anonymous
    Steve

    A question for Greg Cochran or one of your readers with some expertise in virology. There is strong DNA evidence that the Covid19 outbreak is likely related to some sort of transmission event to humans from bats. Can this Covid19 virus be transferred from bats or humans to other animals, in particular livestock animals? The reason I ask is that the geniuses in Houston decided just today to cancel the Houston Livestock Show & Rodeo after a whole week of hosting events. HL&R is the largest indoor livestock exhibition and rodeo in the world with attendance of over 2,000,000 people each year.

    Everyone here in Houston was worried about intra-human transmission but I'm beginning to wonder if we could destroy our food supply with transmission of this virus to farm animals like chicken, cattle, and pigs. My god, imagine the implications.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal, @Anonymous, @Lockean Proviso

    “I’m beginning to wonder if we could destroy our food supply with transmission of this virus to farm animals like chicken, cattle, and pigs. My god, imagine the implications.”

    Don’t have the link, but did read recently that people can and in at least one case did pass it on to their pet dog or cat. Let’s hope livestock and birds don’t get it.

    Fortunately plants don’t, so we can eat the beans and grain instead of feeding it to animals and eating them. That’s more efficient too, though maybe with a population decline less of a concern.

  56. @tanabear
    This is big. I wonder how the people who said, "It's just the flu" feel now. The precautionary principle should have been adhered to earlier. Exponential growth can sneak up on you real fast!

    It might be time to go live in a hut on a mountain and read some Russian novels for a few months.

    Replies: @Polynikes, @Intelligent Dasein, @Mr. Anon

    About 5,000 people have died of CoV-19 World-wide since November.

    From October 1, 2019 through Feb. 29 of this year, the CDC has estimated that something like 20,000 – 50,000 people have died from the flu, just in the U.S. alone.

    The CDC estimated that, World-wide, nearly 300,000 people died in the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, and further estimated that 80% of those who died were younger than 65. Remember that? I had to look up what year that happened, because I couldn’t remember. The World didn’t go apes**t over that pandemic.

    I wonder if the World’s response to CoV-19 isn’t just the collective scream of the boomer generation coming to grips with its’ own mortality.

    • Replies: @Kim
    @Mr. Anon

    It's some kind of dress rehearsal to see what they can get away with in terms of lockdowns, media and social messaging and control, and how the plebs will react to further management and restrictions of their movements and communications under so-called emergency conditions. It is a test.

    , @Anonymous
    @Mr. Anon


    The CDC estimated that, World-wide, nearly 300,000 people died in the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, and further estimated that 80% of those who died were younger than 65. Remember that? I had to look up what year that happened, because I couldn’t remember. The World didn’t go apes**t over that pandemic.
     
    In the 10 years since H1N1, smartphones, social media, and general internet addiction have taken over the populace. American adults now spend around 12 hours a day in front of some kind of screen, and of course check their smartphones intermittently when they're not directly in front of a screen. People are now constantly bombarded with instant information and media content from everywhere, wherever they are.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicolefisher/2019/01/24/how-much-time-americans-spend-in-front-of-screens-will-terrify-you/
    , @theMann
    @Mr. Anon

    Crashing the World Economy enters into this too. How convenient that they can blame things on Covid-19, rather than Central bank/Monetary Policy.


    In the meantime, the fundamental unseriousness of the Powers That Be is exposed:


    It is an indisputable fact that the disease has only been deadly to sick, old, mostly Ethnic Asian people.


    So instead of quarantining them, which could be done, The PTB are trying to quarantine population groups at no risk of severe complications, which is as impossible as it is pointless. . Sure, that makes sense. In the meantime, does anybody in the Health Professional Field suggest the risk population have an Orange, get some Sun, turn on the humidifier, and go lie down? Oh no, that would be (free) prevention. We all know we simply must develop an ineffective, expensive vaccine and make everybody take it. Remember the Swine Flu vaccine in 1976? Boy, that sure worked out well, huh?

    Still, it is nice to know just how many people are tied for first in the Galactic Fucktard Contest.

    Replies: @Ali Choudhury

  57. Tom Hanks is extremely anti Trump and mocked the idea of controlling the border or reducing immigration as something that only moron trucks and guns guys would care about. dey took er jobz.

    glad he got it. hopefully most of Hollywood can pick up a nice case. though i figure they’ll be heading for their bunkers now. or Canada. they’re always threatening to move to Canada.

  58. @t
    Not sure if they'll be able to enforce this but but who thought El Salvador would have a more sane response to this than most developed countries. I didn't realize that the President of El Salvador was an Arab.


    https://news.yahoo.com/el-salvador-bans-foreigners-entering-country-over-coronavirus-000128870.html

    Replies: @Pericles

    If you’re going to do it, the Israeli approach as stated (everyone gets a 14 day quarantine before entering the country) seems sensible enough. If you really need to go there, enjoy your waiting period. Otherwise just reschedule your visit.

  59. @Mr. Anon
    @tanabear

    About 5,000 people have died of CoV-19 World-wide since November.

    From October 1, 2019 through Feb. 29 of this year, the CDC has estimated that something like 20,000 - 50,000 people have died from the flu, just in the U.S. alone.

    The CDC estimated that, World-wide, nearly 300,000 people died in the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, and further estimated that 80% of those who died were younger than 65. Remember that? I had to look up what year that happened, because I couldn't remember. The World didn't go apes**t over that pandemic.

    I wonder if the World's response to CoV-19 isn't just the collective scream of the boomer generation coming to grips with its' own mortality.

    Replies: @Kim, @Anonymous, @theMann

    It’s some kind of dress rehearsal to see what they can get away with in terms of lockdowns, media and social messaging and control, and how the plebs will react to further management and restrictions of their movements and communications under so-called emergency conditions. It is a test.

  60. @Anonymous
    OT: Horny minx Ilhan Omar got married to her campaign worker lover boy. The soap opera goes on.

    Maybe she wears the headgear to assure her hometown voters that she's keeping it real?

    Anyway the new husband is a white guy. Presumably regular American not Muslim. He's probably athiest or unitarian etc. She can't convert without getting beheaded amirite?

    Anyway let's keep our eyes on the tigress. She's hot and she's always got some crazy nonsense going on under the surface...

    Replies: @Pericles

    OT: Horny minx Ilhan Omar got married to her campaign worker lover boy.

    I hope it’s not a brother this time.

  61. @Ali Choudhury
    @Intelligent Dasein

    If you are 70 plus and have diabetes, hypertension etc. you are looking at an 8% plus mortality rate. If you are 80 plus that goes to 15%. The need for hospitalisation for a lot of cases is likely to overwhelm many health systems. There is also the knock-on effect of people with urgent healthcare needs being denied treatment due to a lack of doctors and nurses to look after them That will also lead to excess deaths. Huge problem for the US where there is a big shortage of beds for acute care.

    Replies: @Bill H

    “If you are 70 plus and have diabetes, hypertension etc. you are looking at an 8% plus mortality rate. “

    In that statistical category you have at least an 8% chance of dying from a simple fall. At any age and health status you have an 8% chance of getting killed by a drunk driver by simply driving on the freeway at midnight on Friday night.

    I’m 76, have heart arrythmias and emphysema and have had three strokes. Hell, I think a 92% chance of staying alive is great.

    • Replies: @Ali Choudhury
    @Bill H

    Apologies, the mortality rates quoted were for the age groups. They were not split for those with no known health conditions and those with chronic heart, respiratory issues. Mortality rate for those with heart disease across all age groups is over 13% per the WHO. That would obviously go up for older age groups.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8098187/Coronavirus-death-rate-Australians-heart-disease-likely-die.html

  62. Anonymous[334] • Disclaimer says:

    Incredible for a blog inhabited by disproportionately Boomers how adamant many of you are against the seriousness of the situation

    “It’s just a flu” *cough*

  63. Anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon
    @tanabear

    About 5,000 people have died of CoV-19 World-wide since November.

    From October 1, 2019 through Feb. 29 of this year, the CDC has estimated that something like 20,000 - 50,000 people have died from the flu, just in the U.S. alone.

    The CDC estimated that, World-wide, nearly 300,000 people died in the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, and further estimated that 80% of those who died were younger than 65. Remember that? I had to look up what year that happened, because I couldn't remember. The World didn't go apes**t over that pandemic.

    I wonder if the World's response to CoV-19 isn't just the collective scream of the boomer generation coming to grips with its' own mortality.

    Replies: @Kim, @Anonymous, @theMann

    The CDC estimated that, World-wide, nearly 300,000 people died in the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, and further estimated that 80% of those who died were younger than 65. Remember that? I had to look up what year that happened, because I couldn’t remember. The World didn’t go apes**t over that pandemic.

    In the 10 years since H1N1, smartphones, social media, and general internet addiction have taken over the populace. American adults now spend around 12 hours a day in front of some kind of screen, and of course check their smartphones intermittently when they’re not directly in front of a screen. People are now constantly bombarded with instant information and media content from everywhere, wherever they are.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicolefisher/2019/01/24/how-much-time-americans-spend-in-front-of-screens-will-terrify-you/

  64. @Anon
    If there is something you guys and gals have been waiting to buy, now is the time to get it. Ive bought a new mower, weed eater, and electric razor in the past 3 days myself. The media is trying to cause a recession/depression to blame on Trump in an election year. I hope righties like myself consxiously thwart that effort, and thwart the DNC this November.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Obamahotep, @Chief Seattle, @Louis Renault, @Jussie Smollett

    If there is something you guys and gals have been waiting to buy, now is the time to get it. Ive bought a new mower, weed eater, and electric razor in the past 3 days myself.

    I hear ya bro. We gots to support our economy. Today, I went on Amazon and bought 10 new nooses.

  65. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @epebble
    @Chief Seattle

    I am just outside Washington State line, our local NBC affiliate has been having continuous CV programming. Today they spoke with WA and OR public health people; Absolute tragedy with respect to providing test kits; they are getting single digit and double digit usable kits; Many are missing a crucial reagent or two, making it useless. WA has thousands and may be tens of thousands probably infected and no way to be tested. Same in OR, NY everywhere. This is looking like a tragedy unfolding like Italy. A WA hospital chief is already terrified of Italy scenario with respect to ICU and equipment.
    In two to three weeks, we may be where Italy is today.

    Replies: @epebble, @Anonymous

    As far as the virus itself goes, it does not appear to be any more dangerous than a bad case of the flu. Now don’t get me wrong; bad cases of the flu are plenty bad enough and do warrant legitimate concern. But the public response to this coronavirus has been orders of magnitude more severe than anything proportionate to the danger.

    Wrong, Dr. Dum Dum…

    Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told lawmakers during a House Oversight Committee hearing Wednesday that COVID-19 — the disease caused by the novel coronavirus — is probably about 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu.

    https://theweek.com/speedreads/901470/coronavirus-10-times-more-lethal-than-seasonal-flu-trumps-task-force-immunologist-says

    The CT scans and x-rays of coronavirus sufferers’ lungs – taken after they came down with symptoms such as a fever and cough – show a pattern of abnormalities similar to SARS and MERS

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/coronavirus-x-rays-show-terrifying-21672219

  66. I learned yesterday from our HR person at work that a Safety Conference for this weekend in Ohio was canceled.

  67. “What are the salary implications?”

    NBA contracts are guaranteed money, so the players will be paid to sit around. MLB contracts are also guaranteed money, so if it goes into April, same thing. not sure about NHL. MLS players might get hurt here, but MLS won’t go out of business. UFC and boxing events might be rescheduled. lots of NCAA events might be athletes only, no fans.

    the guys who will be screwed are the XFL players. but more importantly, XFL was kinda working – this is lightning bolt, reverse lottery level bad luck for Vince McMahon.

    “As far as the virus itself goes, it does not appear to be any more dangerous than a bad case of the flu”

    i’ve seen experts describe it as literally a bad cold, as colds are viruses too. and also as viral pneumonia. it’s more dangerous than those. but it’s not an asteroid heading for Earth either.

    i think a lot of the difference between Covid-19 and swine flu is due to social media, cell phones, and bad news spreading in hours now. back in the day, i went thru waves of virus and bacteria break outs that killed thousands of people, and i was barely aware, since it wasn’t reported hourly on the internet. maybe a 1 minute news story on network news, blink and you’ll miss it.

    some food poisoning outbreaks seemed more scary, because they were certain death and random, depending on what fast food place you went to. and of course, HIV was more scary than this. the media went out of their way to scare the hell out of people for several years about AIDS.

  68. @Bard of Bumperstickers
    Glad to see those spoiled, oppressed brats in pro ball taking a knee (to the groin) - eff 'em. And mesmerized, fattened cattle couch 'taters can get up and play ball themselves. Eff them, too.

    Now that life's become 24/7 Love In The Time Of Corona, here's Not The Onion: https://www.zerohedge.com/health/islamic-scholar-who-said-coronavirus-was-allahs-punishment-gets-coronavirus

    And here's Congresstwit Al-Exandria Occluded-Cognition: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/straight-racist-aoc-slams-people-not-patroning-chinese-restaurants-due-coronavirus

    I wonder how the mail-order Far East bride biz is taking all of this. Go long Stepford Wives, LLC.

    Replies: @Cortes

    “Now that life’s become 24/7 Love In The Time Of Corona”

    A lovely reference to a great novel. Congratulations and thanks!

    • Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers
    @Cortes

    Thank you. I've already scratched it into a white cotton t-shirt in black magic marker. Someone with art/computer skills should make a mini-fortune with a Tyvek-clad, gas-masked Kama Sutra sampler on a t-shirt. BTW, where mah Nobel in Lit at, yo? };^D

  69. @Bill H
    @Ali Choudhury

    "If you are 70 plus and have diabetes, hypertension etc. you are looking at an 8% plus mortality rate. "

    In that statistical category you have at least an 8% chance of dying from a simple fall. At any age and health status you have an 8% chance of getting killed by a drunk driver by simply driving on the freeway at midnight on Friday night.

    I'm 76, have heart arrythmias and emphysema and have had three strokes. Hell, I think a 92% chance of staying alive is great.

    Replies: @Ali Choudhury

    Apologies, the mortality rates quoted were for the age groups. They were not split for those with no known health conditions and those with chronic heart, respiratory issues. Mortality rate for those with heart disease across all age groups is over 13% per the WHO. That would obviously go up for older age groups.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8098187/Coronavirus-death-rate-Australians-heart-disease-likely-die.html

  70. @epebble
    @epebble

    Italy's story is well documented here: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/who-gets-hospital-bed/607807/

    There is a link to their triage document. It is in Italian. If somebody can find an English translation, I would like to read. There is something unreal about how life or death decisions are made, literally.

    Replies: @Lockean Proviso

    Italian triage: Va bene, boomer

    “Ok, boomer.”

    • LOL: Lot
  71. @Mr. Anon
    @tanabear

    About 5,000 people have died of CoV-19 World-wide since November.

    From October 1, 2019 through Feb. 29 of this year, the CDC has estimated that something like 20,000 - 50,000 people have died from the flu, just in the U.S. alone.

    The CDC estimated that, World-wide, nearly 300,000 people died in the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, and further estimated that 80% of those who died were younger than 65. Remember that? I had to look up what year that happened, because I couldn't remember. The World didn't go apes**t over that pandemic.

    I wonder if the World's response to CoV-19 isn't just the collective scream of the boomer generation coming to grips with its' own mortality.

    Replies: @Kim, @Anonymous, @theMann

    Crashing the World Economy enters into this too. How convenient that they can blame things on Covid-19, rather than Central bank/Monetary Policy.

    In the meantime, the fundamental unseriousness of the Powers That Be is exposed:

    It is an indisputable fact that the disease has only been deadly to sick, old, mostly Ethnic Asian people.

    So instead of quarantining them, which could be done, The PTB are trying to quarantine population groups at no risk of severe complications, which is as impossible as it is pointless. . Sure, that makes sense. In the meantime, does anybody in the Health Professional Field suggest the risk population have an Orange, get some Sun, turn on the humidifier, and go lie down? Oh no, that would be (free) prevention. We all know we simply must develop an ineffective, expensive vaccine and make everybody take it. Remember the Swine Flu vaccine in 1976? Boy, that sure worked out well, huh?

    Still, it is nice to know just how many people are tied for first in the Galactic Fucktard Contest.

    • Replies: @Ali Choudhury
    @theMann

    There must be a lot of east Asians in Italy if they shut down the entire country.

  72. Rita is older and recently had a cancer, so this is not a small deal for her.

  73. @theMann
    @Mr. Anon

    Crashing the World Economy enters into this too. How convenient that they can blame things on Covid-19, rather than Central bank/Monetary Policy.


    In the meantime, the fundamental unseriousness of the Powers That Be is exposed:


    It is an indisputable fact that the disease has only been deadly to sick, old, mostly Ethnic Asian people.


    So instead of quarantining them, which could be done, The PTB are trying to quarantine population groups at no risk of severe complications, which is as impossible as it is pointless. . Sure, that makes sense. In the meantime, does anybody in the Health Professional Field suggest the risk population have an Orange, get some Sun, turn on the humidifier, and go lie down? Oh no, that would be (free) prevention. We all know we simply must develop an ineffective, expensive vaccine and make everybody take it. Remember the Swine Flu vaccine in 1976? Boy, that sure worked out well, huh?

    Still, it is nice to know just how many people are tied for first in the Galactic Fucktard Contest.

    Replies: @Ali Choudhury

    There must be a lot of east Asians in Italy if they shut down the entire country.

  74. Wow, Negroes Be Airborne has suspended the season! How will I survive!

  75. @Cortes
    @Bard of Bumperstickers

    “Now that life’s become 24/7 Love In The Time Of Corona”

    A lovely reference to a great novel. Congratulations and thanks!

    Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers

    Thank you. I’ve already scratched it into a white cotton t-shirt in black magic marker. Someone with art/computer skills should make a mini-fortune with a Tyvek-clad, gas-masked Kama Sutra sampler on a t-shirt. BTW, where mah Nobel in Lit at, yo? };^D

  76. @Rochelle
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    As her as I can tell a jack amen are not getting the guide she in Tech Africa are is not being by touché. So it looks like . People pre of Color have during jet umm he systems

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    It skirted that white men cannot run s hbiveynnfnt all sports will be cancelled
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    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Indeed.

  77. Anonymous[367] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    Just shut down the goddamn country for a week at a time.
     
    What do you mean by “a week at a time”?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Pragmatic gatekeeping

  78. @Ron Mexico
    Shouldn't Gobert have to retire immediately like Magic Johnson had done?

    Replies: @PaceLaw

    Is that you Mike Vick? If so, what are you talking about? Magic Johnson continued playing for many years after his HIV announcement.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @PaceLaw

    No he retired immediately in Nov 91. Then he got pumped full of drugs, and returned the following season after the Dream Team. I recall that "this here Karl Malone" was seriously concerned that he could be infected by Magic just playing against him.

    , @Brian Reilly
    @PaceLaw

    Pace, Remember that announcing one has contracted HIV is not at all the same as actually contracting HIV. Magic never contracted HIV. He was well compensated for fulfilling a role in an elaborate propaganda campaign, and actual infection was not required.

  79. Of the thirty-eight people in the U.S. whose deaths have been attributed to coronavirus or its complications, all but two or three, I believe, are elderly — and among these elderly most were residents of nursing homes.

    The other two or three were in their forties, fifties, or sixties, and suffering from a serious pre-existing medical condition, or several.

    The number of children worldwide nine years of age or younger whose deaths have been attributed to coronavirus or its complications was, as of March 10, zero.

  80. @PaceLaw
    @Ron Mexico

    Is that you Mike Vick? If so, what are you talking about? Magic Johnson continued playing for many years after his HIV announcement.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Brian Reilly

    No he retired immediately in Nov 91. Then he got pumped full of drugs, and returned the following season after the Dream Team. I recall that “this here Karl Malone” was seriously concerned that he could be infected by Magic just playing against him.

  81. https://mobile.twitter.com/tomhanks/status/1236288802626236417

    Hanx still posting pictures of lost childrens’ clothing on his twitter. Have a browse through the replies.

    RIP Kappy.

  82. @unit472
    What are the salary implications? I assume MLB, PGA and, potentially, the NFL etc will all be in the same situation.

    Replies: @Brian Reilly

    Unit472, Why, President Trump has assured us that there will be relief for wage earners who cannot work due to the Coronavirus®. I am certain that the hard-working men of the NBA will be made whole through the efforts of taxpayers who are proud to contribute! Not so much, I think, for the hot dog vendors and such who wil be out of work.

  83. @PaceLaw
    @Ron Mexico

    Is that you Mike Vick? If so, what are you talking about? Magic Johnson continued playing for many years after his HIV announcement.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Brian Reilly

    Pace, Remember that announcing one has contracted HIV is not at all the same as actually contracting HIV. Magic never contracted HIV. He was well compensated for fulfilling a role in an elaborate propaganda campaign, and actual infection was not required.

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