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From the Associated Press:

Navy charges sailor with setting fire that destroyed warship

Thu, July 29, 2021, 2:17 PM·2 min read

SAN DIEGO (AP) — The U.S. Navy charged a sailor Thursday with starting a fire last year that destroyed the USS Bonhomme Richard docked off San Diego, marking the maritime branch’s worst warship blaze outside of combat in recent memory.

The amphibious assault ship burned for more than four days. Left with extensive structural, electrical and mechanical damage, the ship was later scrapped. Estimates to replace it ran up to \$4 billion.

The sailor was a member of the crew at the time, Cmdr. Sean Robertson, a U.S. 3rd Fleet spokesperson, said in a statement. The sailor was charged with aggravated arson and the willful hazarding of a vessel, Robertson said. No name was released.

No other details were provided, and it was unclear what evidence was found or what the motive was.

So that clears that all up!

Move along, folks, nothing to see here.

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  1. Fire rang out. There was no agency.

  2. Was this another fiery yet peaceful protest?

    • LOL: Unladen Swallow
  3. Mr. Blank says:

    No name or motive?

    It’s gotta be BLM-related. Gonna be a shitstorm when that comes out.

    • Replies: @notbe
  4. Four Billion Dollars! That money could have been sent sending 100,000 black people to college for 4 years, or built 100 new hospitals. Remember all that? “Arms are for hugging … not setting fire to warships, cause now they gotta spend 4 more billion on a replacement, you dumb black muthaf__er.”

    • Agree: goldgettin
    • Replies: @Ganderson
    , @profnasty
  5. Nathan says:

    Fun fact- that article of the UCMJ carries the death penalty:

    The Navy does not mess around with this sort of thing.

  6. Arson that endangers human life should be a Capital Offense. Flog, keel haul and then hang from a yard arm. Seems fair.

    • Replies: @Nathan
  7. • Replies: @MikeTheCop
  8. donut says:

    “So that clears that all up!” LOL !

  9. Nathan says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    It is a capital offense: Article 110 of the UCMJ.

  10. It was said that 60 people were treated for injuries suffered,including heat exhaustion-most of whom were black women!

    • LOL: Charles
  11. This was deliberate arson, but I doubt the Navy as a whole is going to be effective much longer. There’s going to be a lot of things in the new ‘America’ that we used to take for granted that just straight up won’t work. Any complex organization that requires a bunch of steps be done in series, correctly, it just won’t work above a certain % of vibrants in the workforce.

    Doing something like landing a plane on an aircraft carrier, or doing a surgery, or running a chemical plant, or whatever, require thousands of small steps, each of which by themselves is pretty straightforward, but have to be done correctly for the whole enterprise to succeed. People think that if White people (or Asians) who do these tasks 100% correctly are replaced with browns who do these tasks 97% correctly, hey, no big deal, we’ll just have 3% more failures. Not great, but not catastrophic for civilization.

    Wrong! The success rate will be 0.97 * 0.97 * 0.97 * 0.97… out to the 100th power or the 1000th power: so essentially the success rate will be zero. One step stuff like picking a strawberry, sure, maybe you can survive with cheaper, crappier labor. All the other stuff in an advanced nation state? No.

    One of the big problems in any organization is that management will look at any one task in a vacuum and see that if they hire semi-competent H1Bs or undocumented scabs or diversity hires they can do it 3% crappier for 20% cheaper, and they think that’s a good trade off. Then all of a sudden their organization can’t execute any longer, but there’s no one clear cause, just mass semi-incompetence, and they wonder what happened.

  12. Who sank the USS Ashli Babbitt?

    • Thanks: Old Prude
  13. Anon[156] • Disclaimer says:

    It was Yeoman 3rd Class Harpy Daniels. Her sizzling hot performances burned down that ship:

    • Replies: @Currahee
    , @donut
  14. No name released sounds like a great name for a band. Should we take odds on sacred race vs. sacred religion vs. rainbow flagger? I’m pretty sure he/she/zer isn’t a white supremecist.

    • Replies: @Cato
    , @PSR
  15. Cato says:
    @Louis Renault

    The Navy is known for bullying behavior — higher ranks yell at lower ranks and generally act like jerks. Most likely the fire, if intentional, had nothing to do with ideology and everything to do with revenge.

  16. fnn says:

    Brings to mind the turret explosion on the battleship USS Iowa in 1989.

    • Replies: @mmack
  17. @Nathan

    The Navy does not mess around with this sort of thing.

    The Navy we recall didn’t, but the new woke Navy…

    The protected class defendant will get ten years because of “extenuating circumstances” (some “racism”/”exhaustion”/”microaggressions”/whatever thing). Released after five years. Other than honorable discharge. Maybe not even that.

    If it were a straight white guy, though…

    • Agree: BluEidDvl
  18. 1John says:

    “Diversity is our strength.” We Europeans aka Whites have got to b the stupidest & dumbest ppl to believe in this huge lie. I guess our ancestors got it wrong for using “united” instead of “diverse”, therefore, better amend it to DSA (Diverse States of America).

    • Replies: @Jim Cochran
  19. Dr. X says:

    No name? No picture? No “domestic terrorism” charges after committing arson on government property that cost the taxpayer four billion??

    Thank God he didn’t walk into a government building wearing buffalo horns and wrapped in a Trump flag, otherwise he’d have been held without bail, charged with terrorism, and liable for 25 years in prison.

  20. Mike Tre says:

    LOL – if it’s a negro they’ll probably promote him.

  21. Currahee says:

    But no rum or lash apparently.

    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
  22. @SimpleSong

    Any complex organization that requires a bunch of steps be done in series, correctly, it just won’t work above a certain % of vibrants in the workforce.

    I’ve posted before about a friend who wrote his Masters thesis on this exact subject. He went on to manage a large Government Motors factory for a couple decades. Notably, in the government bailout, he lost everything and now lives as a derelict drunk in his daughter’s basement.

    I’m not sure how many times I can tell you all this, but Detriot is YOUR future. You may think that you can run, but it’s coming relentlessly for you.

    But hey, at least our Greatest Generation sacrificed itself for the Jews and bequeathed us their Boomer children right? And they told us that they were “Changing the World” right? So anyone who is surprised just hasn’t been paying attention..

  23. anon[753] • Disclaimer says:

    Taxpayers deserve to know who burnt up 4 billion of their hard-earned dollars.

  24. 216 says: • Website

    The simplest explanation is that this was BLM terror, and the woke brass covered it up.

    The Biden Regime is #BlueTyranny.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  25. @Almost Missouri

    Prophetic brother.

    iSteve needs to open a betting pool on this question.

  26. Alfa158 says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Yep, look at the fragging cases where soldiers were actually murdered. Hasan Akbar in the first Gulf War, Nidal Hasan at Ft. Hood. If the US military was still a serious institution, they would have faced a firing squad within 90 days.
    Luckily the US military no longer has a real mission, so it’s just as well. The Japanese won’t be bombing Pearl Harbor, the Chinese won’t be landing on Santa Monica Beach, the Red Army won’t be punching through the Fulda Gap and racing to the Channel. The country has been undergoing a massive human wave invasion for decades and the military does nothing to actually defend the border.
    The military exists to provide jobs and profits and intimidate weak countries. The people that their leadership wants to unleash the military on, is us.

  27. Voltarde says:

    ” … No name was released.

    No other details were provided, and it was unclear what evidence was found or what the motive was.”

    Loose lips sink narratives.

    • Agree: mmack
    • Replies: @Old Prude
  28. Nathan says:
    @Almost Missouri

    I’m sure the accused is in no actual danger of execution.

    But destroying a multi-billion dollar ship that is a critical piece of your nation’s war fighting ability deserves the death penalty.

    • Replies: @Charles
  29. Nathan says:

    “the military does nothing to actually defend the border.”

    Hey, just curious, how would you like to pass through a military road block on I-10? Asked to provide an ID to an armed soldier? If the military defends the border, it will be engaging in law enforcement, and it will be engaging in law enforcement on US soil and will be interacting with US citizens that have done nothing wrong 9/10 times.

    It doesn’t matter to illegals, the US government is the US government to them. But it does matter to Americans.

  30. Jack D says:

    2 to 1 odds that the sailor is not white. Does anyone want to take the white side of the bet?

    • Replies: @Nimrod
    , @International Jew
  31. @216

    It’s one guy, so it could be for practically any reason.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  32. If the sailor was White he’d be lumped in with the 1/6 “insurrectionists.”

    Must be a melanin-enhanced individual.

  33. Navy Charges Sailor with Arson for Destroying USS Bonhomme Richard

    Well, you know what they want to say:

    Navy Charges Sailer with Arson for Destroying USS Bonhomme Richard

  34. Mr. Anon says:

    Hey, just curious, how would you like to pass through a military road block on I-10? Asked to provide an ID to an armed soldier? If the military defends the border, it will be engaging in law enforcement, and it will be engaging in law enforcement on US soil and will be interacting with US citizens that have done nothing wrong 9/10 times.

    Within a few years, we’re likely to have to pass through military roadblocks set up to contain COVID-23 or whatever (as is happening in Australia now). It isn’t our military anymore, if it ever was. Like everything else in this country, it belongs to them.

    • Agree: 3g4me
    • Replies: @Alden
  35. AceDeuce says:

    As ol’ Ernie H.remarked “Isn’t it pretty to think so?”

    The death penalty might have been invoked by the military in 1943, but not these days.

    The UCMJ has several (14) offenses punishable by death, including rape as a standalone crime. The last active duty member executed was for rape alone–a negro soldier raped a young (like 13) Austrian girl in Vienna back in the 1950s–I think she was not just young, but retarded or something. He tried but failed to kill her afterwards. Left her for dead. He was executed for the rape in 1961. No one since.

    In 2012, a (White) millennial shipyard worker intentionally set fire to the submarine USS Miami while it was being overhauled. It wound up getting scrapped–estimated loss \$700 million. He didn’t even get 10 years in jail, much less the death penalty.

    • Agree: notbe
  36. @Nathan

    Interstate 10 is NOT the border. Look at a map, Nathan. Just half of the US soldiers, sailors, and airmen who have been defending one group of Koreans from another for 68 years now (not the same guys!) could defend the ENTIRE US border from Brownsville, TX to National City, CA, with plenty of manpower to spare. Peak Stupidity went over this years ago in Border control maintenance vs. defending some Koreans from other Koreans.

    Speaking of the Interstate highways though, the previous post to that was Border control vs. the interstate highway system. These were written during the early portion of the Trump administration, when many of us thought these ideas could actually happen.


    Great comment, Alfa158!

    • Replies: @Nathan
    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
  37. Nimrod says:
    @Jack D

    For right now, in the absence of any other knowledge about the guy, I’ll take the white bet. Let’s you and me check back in when we find out who did it.

    Meanwhile, a trip down memory lane: nobody here has brought it up yet but the Navy had something almost exactly similar happen to the USS Miami back in 2012. A white electrician set a ‘small’ electrical fire inside the ship to trigger a fire alarm so he could go home early. Damages totaled \$450 million in 2012 money. He got a 17-year prison sentence. This guy is as white trash as they come:

    You can read about it here: and also here:

    The Navy really seems to have a systemic morale problem lately.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  38. Wilkey says:

    The sailor was charged with aggravated arson and the willful hazarding of a vessel, Robertson said. No name was released.

    It’s amazing how many facts the Government Of The People, By The People, For The People (TM) chooses to withhold from…the people.

  39. @Cato

    Is that from personal experience? In my two tours I had few people after boot camp ever yell at me, and the world, not just the navy, is full of jerks. There are plenty of ways to ‘get revenge’ without setting fire aboard ship.

  40. As scrappy koala would say, “When you don’t tell us the race, you tell us the race.”

    • Agree: American Citizen
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  41. Malenfant says:

    The US, to say nothing of other countries such as Germany, has executed soldiers in recent memory for far, far, far less.

    Here’s a particularly egregious example:

    It’s hard to escape the conclusion that the US Military is, as you put it, no longer a serious institution. And, moreover, it is no longer honorable or just.

    I’ll bet that the boat-destroyer is black and gets off with a slap on the wrist. I’ll also bet that if the boat-destroyer is a white male, they’ll throw the book at him, and he’ll probably get a death sentence. (Commuted or not.) Such is the state of our current anarcho-tyranny.

    What I really don’t understand is why any white male would join the US armed forces, in this day and age.

    • Agree: 3g4me
    • Replies: @David In TN
    , @Truth
  42. notbe says:
    @Mr. Blank

    very likely yes BLM or something close but no there will not be a shitstorm in fact, the BLM aspects will not emphasized theyll blame it on the sailors ptsd or some bullshit like that

  43. @Nathan

    I’ve been on I-8 and was stopped by armed Border Patrol agents. BFD.

    And if they did the job right you wouldn’t even have that, because the illegals simply could not get over/under/around the wall and military period.

    That’s critical function of a military–protect the nation from invasion. If they can’t do that–fail. And actually it’s the core function of the state. If a state does not do that–but in fact does the reverse, like ours–it has no legitimacy.

  44. @Cato

    isn’t the navy notoriously homosexual? it could have been a bad breakup lmao

    • Replies: @Corn
    , @gandydancer
  45. mmack says:

    I mentioned that in a post last month:

    One wonders if it was a Diverse or ¡Vibrant! sailor who set the fire. Or maybe it was a welder 👨🏻‍🏭 wielding a torch near some life jackets a la the SS Normandie:

    Is keelhauling a punishment in the US Navy? 🤔

  46. @Nicholas Stix

    Exactly, Nick!

    (That’s why I made the assumption I did.)

  47. Libre says:

    Wait was this even in the news? Good heavens what a year…

  48. @Stan d Mute

    Sorry about your buddy.
    I retired from FOMOCO’S FRAP last year. I’m thankful every day now. Diversity is gonna be the death of that place. A former coworker came by Memorial Day weekend and told me about the black process coach in Body Shop got two of his “cousins” hired as supervisors, picked from the line.

    I remember those two dumbasses. One acts like a juvenile baboon and the other a young chimp. And now they are in charge of sending every single Mustang to Paint?

    I could’ve stayed, but it was last summer and the BLM t-shirts plus the mandatory masks sealed the deal.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  49. Whiskey says: • Website

    Biden is not only keeping the US military presence in Syria, he’s expanding it and Iraq. So there’s that. And there is the prospect of War with Russia over Ukraine (for reasons I can’t fathom — its monumentally stupid). And there could well be war with China.

    China looks at the US as the solution to its food supply problem. They have the logistics (sort of) now to get over here — all those container ships can be repurposed. Our nukes no longer work and have not since Clinton stopped testing for good. Very likely China wants to be invited. By the Regency. Hence its provoking the anti-White jihad to 11, to create a revolt which threatens the Regency and thus can be invited in. Like Strongbow in Ireland.

    Once in they can easily crush the military. The Pentagon held a war game and the Chinese easily crushed and sank the US Navy in days in the Pacific and sunk a lot in the Atlantic. I think at the end of it they seized Hawaii.

    Our navy could not outfight Putin’s. And his is truly pathetic.

  50. Tim says:

    Coulter Rule in effect!

  51. Anonymous[384] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    It’s one guy, so it could be for practically any reason.

    True. But then, there is a distribution of probabilities for what that reason might have been. And that distribution is a non-trivial function of who the arsonist was.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  52. @Malenfant

    My opinion FWIW is that the pushing of CRT in the military is intended to drive White men out and discourage others from enlisting.

    The result is a majority nonwhite military, which is what the current political class wants.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  53. How many times did he try to start a fire without success before he succeeded. That should tell us something.

  54. Hi There says:

    Move along, folks, nothing to see here

    Why doesn’t Steve Sailer and adjacent right wing media types organize to provide better coverage of these incidents. The type of reporting that would involve researching the perp, his motives, etc.

    • Agree: Yngvar
  55. I don’t get how one person could accomplish that. Was there no one else on board to report the fire? Don’t Navy ships have dedicated firefighting teams? After all, out at sea under bombardment from the Yamato you can’t rely on 911.

  56. @Anonymous

    True, but any one motive isn’t a sure thing.

    • Replies: @Snej
  57. @Jack D

    Guessing black would be the high percentage move. And boring. But now if it were a Chinese guy, that would be pretty interesting.

  58. @Stan d Mute

    our Greatest Generation sacrificed itself for the Jews

    That’s a funny way to save the Jews — waiting to invade Europe until the Polish death camps had already wrapped up their grizzly work, and then landing far away from where large numbers of Jews were still alive (Hungary and Romania). Occam’s Razor says, if you land in France, it’s because you want to save France.

    Never mind prioritizing our Pacific empire over doing anything whatever in Europe.

  59. Alfa158 says:

    It won’t be on I-10, I said it would be on the border, but you already knew that. You were just trying to slip in a straw man argument.
    Repealing invading foreigners isn’t law enforcement any more than the French Army was trying to place the Wehrmacht under arrest and read them their Miranda rights.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  60. What’s the US military going to bring to the border that the CBP can’t?

    It’s unfortunate that people outside the USA, believe the BS about the availability of opportunity in the USA.

    Send in the US Marines. They’ll patrol north of the border for a couple of weeks, until boredom sets in, then they’ll initiate search and destroy long range patrols south of the border, perhaps carrying a deck of cards with the faces of the high value targets who control the rat lines that they’ll never encounter.
    [Viet Nam: USMC was sent in to provide perimeter security for the USAF, who were flying tactical air support for ARVN troops out of Da Nang. USMC launches patrols to engage the enemy out further in the bush. Then “It was on like Donkey Kong.”]

  61. ATate says:
    @International Jew

    That’s a funny way to say “Thanks”.

    Occams Razor explains “France” huh? Ohhhkayyy…you’re Jewish so you’ve likely read a book or two on WWII…never mind.

    Next time…we won’t be there. And if we are it’ll be Major Hassan’s and high stepping trannies. I’m sure they’ll willingly sacrifice themselves for the chosen.

    Never again from us…God willing.

    • Agree: 3g4me
    • Troll: gandydancer
  62. Charles says:

    The person responsible will not even face what any normie would consider a harsh sentence. Unless he’s White.

  63. @1John

    I think they should call it the DOA (Diverse of America). More accurate anagram.

  64. @Nathan

    Sounds like a plan to me, Sparky! You can get your nose into The Fountainhead for a half hour while waiting. Think of the roadblocks as a time for self-improvement.

  65. black sea says:
    @International Jew

    Occam’s Razor says, if you land in France, it’s because you want to save France.

    You can’t invade Hungary and Romania by water. The proximity of France to Great Britain made France the logical starting point for invasion.

    The US wanted to hasten the planning and execution of the Normandy invasion, but Churchill favored a more cautious approach. The British had their reasons for this as well, none of them based on indifference to the fate of European Jews. Do bear in mind that if the invasion had failed, the Alliance might well have fallen apart as people lost any hope of driving the Germans out of the rest of Europe.

    I’m not arguing that the US was prioritizing the destruction of death camps in Poland– it wasn’t — but war forces upon people some very hard and unpleasant choices. The US pursued what seemed to offer the best prospect of victory in the Second World War. And a lot of innocent people died along the way. That last bit was inevitable.

  66. @International Jew

    The arsonist probably was a Navy firefighter.

  67. @Eric Novak

    Firemen who are firebugs is a thing.

  68. Mr. Blank says:

    Being a fairly normal lower-middle-class white guy American patriot in this day and age has become extremely complicated. I’m no longer sure who I’m supposed to root for.

    Hey, I grew up in Alabama watching NASCAR and football. For nearly my entire life, I didn’t have to think much about this stuff: The church, the military and the cops were the good guys. Big business was run by assholes, but at least they made stuff you wanted and didn’t try to run your life. Foreign policy was all about defeating Godless commies or crazy Muslim terrorists.

    Now I don’t know anything anymore. I have no idea who I’m supposed to root for. All the guys I used to root for apparently hate me now. But the guys I used to root against still hate me, too.

    I spent this past July 4 standing around in my backyard drinking beer, watching the fireworks, and trying to figure out how I should feel about the whole thing.

    Y’all Europeans probably have more perspective on this, but it’s new for someone like me.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    , @Truth
    , @Corvinus
  69. @International Jew

    I believe it was under construction at the time, so, like other construction sites, there are periods (e.g. night) when it is less monitored and large amounts of material are lying around not in their final disposition.

    OTOH, what I still don’t get is that warships—at least since we stopped building them with teak decks in WWII—are supposed to be non-flammable, since that helps them with not catching fire in battle and stuff. So how do these arsonists, no matter how good their kindling, keep single-handed setting enormous steel warships on fire?


    Re your other comment,

    Never mind prioritizing our Pacific empire over doing anything whatever in Europe.

    The fight in Europe was prioritized over the fight in the Pacific: North Africa, aid to the Soviets, strategic bombing, etc. all got much more resources than a few scrappy Marines out at the end of their supply lines in Pacific. There was some grumbling about this early on, as it was Japan that had attacked the US, not Germany, which had scrupulously avoided antagonizing the US despite FDR’s many warlike provocations in the Atlantic. Hitler paved the way to relieve Americans of this cognitive dissonance by gratuitously (and foolishly) declaring war on the US himself. FDR knew that once he got a few Americans killed in the Atlantic and North Africa, the logic or war against Germany would engage Americans by their own spilt blood.

    As for why France, Hungary is landlocked and Romania is very distant from the industrial Anglo logistics base in Britain, while France is literally only a few miles away. Then there’s the fact about 90% of the Wehrmacht was deployed in the East, and would have savagely crushed any US/Anglo pinprick landings on the Black Sea littoral. The whole point of a second front against Germany was to strike where Germany was weak, not strong.

  70. @black sea

    That’s exactly right: the US prioritized winning the war. But whose war, and with what priorities? The US fought as though our priorities were minimizing (our own) casualties, and preventing the USSR from grabbing western Europe. From which I conclude that those were indeed our priorities. Saving (a few of) the Jews was a side effect.

    I’m sure the USSR would have very much enjoyed concentrating its forces on the Finnish front, or going to North Africa to ease its army into things by practicing on a single already-defeated German corps, but it chose other priorities.

    And France wasn’t the only possible place from which to invade Europe. Don’t forget we invaded Italy first. As for Romania and Hungary, that wouldn’t have even required a beach landing; we could have “persuaded” Turkey to let us land next to Bulgaria. (And I’m sure the Soviets would have been happy for us to take over fighting Germany’s Army Group South.)

    So as I said: priorities.

    • Agree: gandydancer
    • Replies: @black sea
  71. Andreas says:

    Very predictable.

    To save their own careers, the officer class found themselves a low ranking sailor to blame. One who was probably coerced into “confessing”.

  72. black sea says:
    @International Jew

    I’m sure the USSR would have very much enjoyed concentrating its forces on the Finnish front, or going to North Africa to ease its army into things by practicing on a single already-defeated German corps, but it chose other priorities.

    As I’ve already written, the US wanted to expedite the D Day invasion, but it could only be undertaken with an allied force, and the British were disinclined to move more quickly. I’m not saying the British were wrong to do so; they had reasonable arguments on their side.

    Not to be pedantic, but I never said France was the only possible place from which to invade Europe; I said it was the most logical place.

  73. Dube says:
    @International Jew

    …Polish death camps…

    IJ, I enjoy your notes, but you don’t hear that phrase in your Dale Carnegie course.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  74. donut says:

    We’ve come a long way from “don’t ask don’t tell”.

  75. 1John says:

    “[T]he military does nothing to actually defend the border.”
    Our government is & has been actively involved in allowing open borders whereby we now have at least 25 million illegal aliens & in 2021 over 100,000 of new illegal aliens invading our homeland monthly. Our governments, present & past, have betrayed us, this is treason.

    • Agree: profnasty, gandydancer
  76. Pericles says:

    What’s the big problem here? Building a replacement boat will add another four billion of economic activity, perhaps more, thus enhancing economic growth and providing jobs. Perhaps that whiner Bastiat would complain but I mean, at the end of the day it’s just government money.

  77. mc23 says:
    @International Jew

    The United States heavily prioritized the War in Europe. By 1945 I believe the US accounted for 50% of the worlds GNP and 70% of the war production was used against Germany. The Lend Lease to the Russians may have saved the Soviet Union and contributed heavily to the great Soviet victory.

    It was never a war aim to save jews except indirectly. The aim was to defeat the Nazis and what they stood for. German exploitation and destruction across Europe was immense.

  78. @mc23

    Hitler chose to declare war on the United States right after Pearl Harbor for no particular reason other than general Hitlerishness, freeing FDR to have the US declare war on him.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    , @Raches
  79. Old Prude says:

    LOL for 158Alfa belongs to you.

  80. @Dube

    If you’re calling me on saying Polish as though Poland was responsible, then I stand corrected, and I’ll say “death camps in occupied Poland”.

    • Agree: Dube
  81. @mc23

    1945 wasn’t the whole war. What % of US casualties were taken in Europe in 1942 and 1943?

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    , @mc23
  82. Nathan says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Actually, as far as the government is concerned, the border is drawn with the fat side of a crayon. It’s 100 miles wide. Which is why CBP stops you on I-10 and I-15. It doesn’t matter that this isn’t what the public generally considers “the border,” it’s the law and policy of the US Government and it’s the policy that has to be dealt with if anybody expects things to change.

    Now, I didn’t say anything about a wall. Of course it’s possible to build the wall. It was also possible to double the CBP’s manpower and dig into the readiness of their equipment, but nobody wanted to do/look into that. We could also have looked into the US organizations that fund and organize the border caravans, but that’s not fun either. That’s policy work. We could do more to close the border with a few pen strokes from the right judges and DAs and a shift in funding at DHS.

    But I guess it’s more fun to think about columns of tanks pointing at Mexico.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  83. 68W58 says:

    The Navy (and by extension the Marine Corps) has not executed anyone since the 1840s. The Army has put to death dozens of men, though no one since the early 1960s. The Air Force executed something like three men in the 1950s. I think all of the men on death row at Leavenworth now are from the Army, but one has been under sentence of death since the mid 1980s. GW Bush approved his execution when he was in office, but a judge blocked it and nothing has happened since. If there is a death sentence in this case the defendant shouldn’t worry until sometime around 2060.

    • Replies: @Nathan
  84. Nathan says:

    “That’s critical function of a military–protect the nation from invasion.”

    You may think that, but it’s just not the case. The US Military’s function is to train, man and equip forces for use by combatant commanders to execute their campaign plans. The US has the world divided up into 7 regions and there is a four star general whose job it is to use military forces to enact national policy for the president and secdef. That’s what your military really is- a bunch of parts to be assembled into joint task forces around the world for what is supposed to be the president’s policies. The command that covers the continental US is NORTHCOM. In order to “put the military on muh border” the President would have to task NORTHCOM to get active duty troops and make them police the border. Which President Trump did, except that there’s a thing called the Posse Comitatus act that says that the military can’t be involved in law enforcement. NORTHCOM even puts this right on their webpage:

    You may argue that protecting the border isn’t law enforcement, but the law says it is and for the situation to be any other way, congress would have to change the laws or declare war or simply give the president the authority to use the military for this purpose.

    Now, maybe you don’t think things should be that way. And it’s your right to think things should be changed and to pursue those changes through elections and lobbying and so forth. But they ARE that way and if you can’t be bothered to look into how things really are and the way things actually work, then you can expect to be confused, surprised, and upset when the things you want to happen don’t.

    • Replies: @gandydancer
  85. Escher says:

    Maybe it was insurance fraud.
    Am sure Allstate is sending investigators over.

  86. JMcG says:
    @Mr. Blank

    I agree. The last thirty years have been very, very disorienting. I’d never in a million years thought that I’d be weighing the pros and cons of renouncing my citizenship.

  87. @Achmed E. Newman

    Large sections of I-10 run within 100 miles of the border (some within 100 yards), so in many cases we’re talking US territory subject to special policing laws and abbreviated Constitutional rights related to securing the border. Not that any of this is being vigorously used to halt the current invasion.

    How much anarcho-tyranny against that is occurring on I-10 against real Americans is anybody’s guess.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  88. Goddard says:

    The white population is also degenerating. My local drugstore this morning featured a nearly all-white cast: an OK-looking bitchy type with an “I’m too good for everyone” look on her face; she was heavily tatted and about 50 lbs overweight; a pasty-faced fatso with an effeminate, sweetie-pie grin; a gravelly voiced grandma with her half-black grandkids pickin’ up smokes at the front counter; and the checkout lady who made me cringe by calling me “Sweetie” as though she’s known me all her life.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
  89. Ganderson says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Or resettle 100,000 black people in Liberia or Sierra Leone…

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  90. @Steve Sailer

    “Hitler chose to declare war on the United States right after Pearl Harbor for no particular reason other than general Hitlerishness, freeing FDR to have the US declare war on him.”

    Hitler declaring war on the United States was a typical example of his willful stupidity.

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  91. profnasty says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Five years from now, a Black face in 8Mile will be bragging on how he single handidly sank an American warship.

  92. Truth says:

    What I really don’t understand is why any white male would join the US armed forces, in this day and age.

    For the same reason any white male works at Burger King, a check.

    • Agree: gandydancer
  93. Truth says:
    @International Jew

    I don’t get how one person could accomplish that.


    The Khazar is the only one with intellect here!

    No wonder they have enslaved you people.

  94. @International Jew

    I don’t know off the top of my head what the casualty proportions in the Atlantic and Pacific Theaters were in 1942, but whatever they were, I think that’s the wrong measure. Casualties often correlate more with where you’re retreating than where you’re advancing, and the big US casualty event of 1942 was the defeat in the Philippines, which was the result of the Japanese attack that supposedly precipitated US entry into the war, not a result of US deployments to win the war once entered. So US bleeding in the Philippines from the Japanese attack makes it even more dissonant that in response to Japan attacking the US, the US prioritized attacking Germany, a dissonance that, as mentioned, Hitler stupidly resolved for FDR.

    Anyhow, the “Europe First” policy isn’t some arcane thesis of revisionist history. It was the official policy agreed by Roosevelt and Churchill at the Arcadia Conference in December 1941.

    Indeed, Roosevelt, who had been surreptitiously treating with the UK as if the US were already at war with Germany since 1940 had already made it clear at the secret ABC conference in March 1941 (nine months before officially entering the war and ten months before the official policy declaration) to the UK that the Atlantic theater was the US priority, and that policy would become official as soon as FDR could get the war he wanted.

    • Agree: JMcG
  95. Anonymous[289] • Disclaimer says:
    @black sea

    By mid 1943 Sicily and Southern Italy were in Allied hands. Churchill wanted to invade the Balkans but Roosevelt and Stalin overruled him at the Tehran conference.
    Invading the Balkans made a lot of sense. The very good railway system of Northern France made it easy for the Wehrmacht to reinforce their divisions in Normandy: Germany’s panzers in particular needed to be transported via rail for anything but very short distances.
    The much inferior road and rail infrastructure of Yugoslavia would have made large-scale Panzer operations much more problematic.
    Even more importantly millions of Allied troops in the Balkans would have left the Romanian oil fields very vulnerable. These provided over 50% of Germany’s oil needs. The Red Army would overrun these oil fields in August 1944 and and the effect on German war production, Luftwaffe operations and Panzer movements were immediate.
    If American and British armies have got within a few hundred miles of Romania the enormous bomber capacity of the Western air forces would have made short work of Germany’s oil supplies.
    If the British and Americans had landed in the Balkans in 1943 as Churchill wanted then much Eastern Europe would have remained free of Communist occupation instead of suffering 45 years of subjugation. The war would have probably finished in late 1944 and the Holocaust would have been substantially reduced in numbers. But Roosevelt sided with Stalin.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
  96. @Nimrod

    The Navy really seems to have a systemic morale problem lately.

    That may or may not be true but the Miami fire was set by a civilian.

  97. Only 4 billion in damage? Chump change when compared with the damage throughout the United States caused by negro arsonists as they playfully awaited the lynching of Derek Chauvin.

  98. @Nathan

    Uh, it’s not dad’s Navy anymore.

  99. Anonymous[165] • Disclaimer says:
    @David In TN

    Hitler was hoping that the Japanese would reciprocate with a declaration of war on the USSR, as ‘Barbarossa’ was going badly by December 1941 and Germany needed all the help it could get.

    Unfortunately for him, the German/Italian/Japanese pact was purely defensive, so there was no obligation for the Japanese to help Germany in a war started by Germany, just as Germany had no obligation to help Japan after Pearl Harbor.

    (I sometimes see people arguing that the German-Soviet war was inevitable and so it “doesn’t matter” who attacked who first. No, it mattered very much.)

    • Replies: @David In TN
  100. @Currahee

    There’s probably some lashing involved.

  101. BB753 says:
    @International Jew

    The war wasn’t about saving the Jews or anybody else, for that matter. They never are. If anything, the war was about saving the banks.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  102. Gordo says:
    @International Jew

    15% resources allotted to fight Japan.

  103. @Almost Missouri

    If it were a straight white guy, though…

    we would already know his name.

  104. Gordo says:

    A refit is a great time to burn a ship, doors don’t close due to cables and pipes running through, fire main may be depressurised, fixed firefighting systems under maintenance, fire detection down and replaced with a shit temporary system with many spurious alarms, few vessel familiar crew, dockyard mateys who, understandably, couldn’t care less.

    Surprised it doesn’t happen more often TBH.

  105. Nathan says:

    That’s interesting. They haven’t bothered to execute Nidal Hasan yet, which is frustrating.

    For the record, I don’t think this person will face the death penalty, and was pointing it out as more of a curiosity. However, someone mentioned the comparatively light sentence that the last ship arsonist got. I looked into it, and he didn’t really get much of a break. He plead guilty and got 17 years but was facing life.

    17 years for a guilty plea when the alternative is life in prison sounds like the equivalent of what you would get for pleading down a murder charge. This new arsonist will probably do serious time.

  106. @Nathan

    Don’t get me wrong, Nathan, I’m completely against any traffic stops, checkpoints, and anything else like that in what is the actual INTERIOR of the country. That includes that crayon-thick line you brought up.* Now, if you get a speeding ticket, and it turns out you’re here illegally, well, that should be another story.

    No, of course I’m not thinking of tanks. That wasn’t my point, which, BTW, was not directed specifically in response to your comment, just sayin… It was about manpower. All that BS from ’17 through the end of Trump’s term about “we can’t come up with the money” is just bull. That’s what my 2 posts on PS were getting at.


    * I’m guessing 75% of the iSteve commenters would not agree with me on this … too Constitutionalist of me.

  107. @Ganderson

    Hell, we might could go 1/4 million, Mr. G. I LUV these quick calculations – this would give them 16 Large apiece – OK, 15 after air fare. FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS in Africa. They may as well be Kangz!

  108. The US military probably gets its own day for the testing of public high school seniors.

    If a district refuses to cooperate the government will threaten to withhold their free student lunch program funds.

  109. Alden says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Mr anon and Nathan are right. Soon the highways will be like airports. Endless checks cattle chute lines and harassment… only for Whites.

    Nephew was a navy nuclear engineer. Ran the nuclear power plant from shore not on the ships. He said most every sailor but the Navy Nukes were black. It’s just another government jobs program.

  110. @Anonymous

    Churchill referred to the Balkans as the soft underbelly of Europe. American General Mark Clark, who directed the Italian campaign called it “a tough old gut.” Balkans is a Turkish word meaning moutainous and anyone familiar with the tenacious German defense of Italy realizes that an Allied invasion of the Balkans would have bogged down in the same combination of weather, terrain and effective German defensive tactics that made the Italian campaign such a nightmare. Add to that the competing ethnic rivalries in the Balkans and the decision to invade France and drive at the heart of Germany makes more and more sense.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    , @Anonymous
  111. Dammit Haven Monahan, you again!

    • Replies: @anon
  112. @Anonymous

    Hitler tried to get the Japanese to join him when he attacked the Soviet Union in June 1941, but they declined. Hitler told his generals he had to declare war on the US after December 7 due to the Axis pact. Mussolini did exactly that. The Japanese declined to join the war against the Soviets.

    Hitler was stupid as usual.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Jim Don Bob
  113. Snej says:
    @Steve Sailer

    But the fact that the motive and name haven’t been released a year later leads to a narrower conclusion that it was for Wokeist Reasons or a reason that may go against the narrative and that it needs to be kept quiet.

    Same logic for the Ashli Babbitt Policeman-shooter.

    In other words, if was a white guy who torched a ship or a white Capitol Poloce Officer who killed a BLM activist it would be known by now to reinforce the narrative.

  114. @Gordo

    “15% resources allotted to fight Japan.”

    I read many years ago about 10-15% of American resources went to the Pacific Theatre.

  115. PSR says:
    @Louis Renault

    75% chance sacred race, 20% Mohammedan, 5% ABCLTBQer

  116. anon[330] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Dammit Haven Monahan, you again!

    “commander” haven monahan …

  117. Cortes says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    Agreed. Which is why Alanbrooke (CIGS) spent so much time and energy fending off Churchillian delusions and gently educating US military and political leaders on the scale of the task of opening a Second Front with a realistic chance of progressing against the heavyweight forces of Germany. As well as a Balkan campaign, Alanbrooke had to overcome sponsors of an invasion of southern France and projected advance north along the Rhone, as I recall. Perhaps the campaigns of North Africa and Italy can be assessed as live training to harden up both troops and commanders in anticipation of the immeasurably more daunting tasks involved in the eventual invasion of northern France. Of course, by no means do I wish to minimise the efforts and sacrifices of those who fought in North Africa, Italy or elsewhere.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  118. Anonymous[330] • Disclaimer says:
    @David In TN

    Hitler was stupid as usual.

    “stupid” is too kind.
    Japan signed a non-aggression pact with the Soviets in 1939.
    In foreign policy Japan had a choice between going North (confront USSR) or South (Oil). Japan chose “oil”.
    What kind of information was the German Ambassador in Tokyo sending Berlin?

  119. @Nathan

    When I grew up in England there were four crimes subject to
    Capital Punishment



    Piracy on the High Seas

    Arson in her majesty’s shipyards

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  120. @Cortes

    I get the impression that North Africa was valuable, not too expensive training, Sicily was easy, but then the 20 months struggling up Italy proper against the Germans was an ordeal that was more expensive to the Allies than it was worth.

    • Agree: Cortes
    • Replies: @Swede55
  121. @Eric Novak

    Well,they say he is a seaman apprentice. That is the second lowest rank,above only seaman recruit. So yeah its got to be some black who didn’t find navy life to his liking. Hang em from the yardarms,if you ask me.

  122. Swede55 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Yes, plus 250,000 German and Italian soldiers surrendered in Tunisia, trapped on the far side of the Med.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  123. Anonymous[907] • Disclaimer says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    Northern Italy like Northern France had a very good rail network which greatly aided the Wehrmacht in their movements of Panzers.
    Yugoslavia did not have such a rail network and the Germans would have found it much more difficult to deploy their best weaponry.
    Also the Allies don’t have to actually get to Romania… All they have to do is get close enough to mount round-the-clock bombing campaigns against the Ploesti oil fields.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  124. Corn says:

    Like an Army veteran told me: 100 guys go down in a submarine. 50 couples come back up

  125. anonymous[182] • Disclaimer says:

    The fire was started with paper and rags. For the sake of the 1,000 crew, it’s probably for the best that this floating government spending project was put out of its misery before it ever saw actual wartime use.

    • Replies: @anon
  126. rdc says:

    Why have they not revealed any details, especially the name and rank / service record of the accused?
    Every time I see this glaring lack of the sort of detail anyone would expect, it makes me think publicizing these details would work against the theory that The US Navy is stronger because of its diversity.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  127. @Gordo

    But half of the casualties.

  128. anon[301] • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew

    Never mind prioritizing our Pacific empire….

    insults you and then says “our” – just like a jew

    That’s a funny way to save the Jews — waiting to invade Europe until the Polish death camps had already wrapped up their grizzly work…

    btw tell us about your handiwork in the early Soviet Union, jew

  129. George says:

    The Navy is completely unable to blame the people in charge for anything, but a mere Sailor?

    Sailor Charged with Arson in Bonhomme Richard Fire Claims Innocence, Lawyer Says

    3 other incidents.

    Blame it on the touch screen: The Navy is planning to replace all touchscreens with wheels and throttles on all of its ships, starting in mid-2020.

    After a long legal battle, the Navy dropped charges of homicide and other crimes against ship commander Commander Bryce Benson in 2019. This prompted the Secretary of the Navy, Richard V. Spencer, to publicly censure Benson, prompting a Naval Board of Inquiry to be convened to investigate his misconduct and jeopardizing his retirement. The Navy decided against the Board of Inquiry, instead allowing him to retire as a Commander on December 29, 2019 and keep his medical benefits.

    USS Guardian destroys a coral reef and is then dismantled while perched on the coral reef.

    • Replies: @Ralph L
  130. Since all acts are collective, can we take this \$4 billion off any reparations tab? If we start deducting the costs from rioting, general mayhem, incarceration……would there be any reparations?

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  131. Corvinus says:
    @Mr. Blank

    Do not despair.

    Distrust in our institutions is complex, accelerated by our access to infinite information found on the Internet. Alternate realities are now being created and perpetuating by “Fake New” acolytes, with this recent trend the crescendo of cultural polarization dating back since the 1990’s. There is seemingly a bottomless pit for misinformation, as experts, public figures, and pundits have done 180’s on their positions in light of new or updated research. And there is every possible narrative amplified by the mainstream media and the Alt Right.

    So, who is in the cross-hairs? Normies. Of course, we naturally distrust power because experts have knowledge we do not intimately possesses. Somehow, our institutions need to earn trust back by acknowledging mistakes and being transparent about their processes. In turn, normies need to reign in their their skepticism and mistrust of experts in an even handed manner, rather than get sucked into the vortex of misinformation. How? By way of media literacy through critical thinking.

    Now, institutions have structural biases that must be acknowledged. Yet, alternative media sources are also littered with their own biases and have virtual no accountability. So to me the prioritization is getting people from across the ideological spectrum closer to the same reality of baseline facts and evidence. That needs to be the trajectory, rather than the current divergent trend into split realities. For example, what is the agreed upon definition of “anti-white”? “race realism”? “critical race theory”? “socialism”? “totalitarianism”? Would you and I agree be able to figure out what are the criteria for each term?

    I understand that ideological divides will remain embedded in our society, but they should be discussed by way of mutually understood language and comparable information. Otherwise, initial conversations cannot get off the ground—people will continue talking past one another and escalating tension.

  132. mc23 says:
    @International Jew

    70% of all US war production from 42 to 45 was devoted to defeating Germany. I mentioned that the US was 50% of the worlds GDP in 1945 just since it’s such a staggering number and it gives an idea of the US contribution.

    As for combat casualties the US made out very lightly compared to others. Most men and most material were sent to the Western theater and most casualties were in Europe, almost 2/3rd of the dead.

    I don’t know the break out per year but I understand that up into the middle of 1942 the navy sustained most of the casualties, very unusual, shows how the war ramped up for the US.

  133. @OilcanFloyd

    It’s Blacks who owe us Whiteys humungous reparations for driving us out of our African motherland 50,000 years ago.

    We are now reduced to being stale pale melanin-deprived ice people. If that’s not horrendous enough, Blacks now mock us for what they themselves did to us.

    Hell yes, we are owed HUMUNGOUS reparations — PLUS 50,000 years of interest!!

  134. Ralph L says:

    The accused sailor spoke with investigators shortly after the fire and was confined to the Marine Corps Station Miramar brig for several months late last year before being released, [his attorney] Barthel said.

    If they bailed him, they must not be seeking the death penalty or even 20 to life. Surprise!

  135. @Detroit Refugee

    I can’t forget my first visit to the Lincoln plant in Wixom when I saw Africans sleeping on pallets with newspapers over them. Especially fun were the signs in the bathroom saying “anyone caught using drugs in the plant will be sent home and referred for treatment”. Because of course you can’t fire them for having a “substance abuse problem” no matter how much rework they cause or how many doors they peel off the body by leaving them open as they enter the booths. I later saw the same thing in every Big 3 plant. But it’s the first one that sticks in my mind.

    • Replies: @mikeInThe716
  136. @BB753

    The war wasn’t about saving the Jews or anybody else, for that matter. They never are. If anything, the war was about saving the banks.

    The (((banks))). Ok.

    • LOL: BB753
  137. JMcG says:

    I’d have to look it up, but losing North Africa cut off German access to a critical metal- maybe Cobalt? Their source was Morocco, I believe. They had to come up with a much less effective alloy for making the poppet valves for their aero engines. That resulted in lower power thresholds before detonation ensued, which would quickly destroy the engine.
    One of the leading German aces, Erik Marseilles, was killed after his engine caught fire.
    Germany had many crippling material shortages during the war. This resulted in both their main aero engines, the BMW 801 and the Daimler-Benz 601, operating at reduced power for much of the war.

  138. JMcG says:

    The Germans couldn’t avail themselves of the rail network in Northern France due to the fact that the Allies controlled the skies. The Das Reich Armored Division famously had to road March from their depot in Montauban to Normandy, which was a distance of hundreds of miles.
    They were so frustrated by the ordeal of being harassed by French resistance during the journey that they committed several atrocities along the way, the most famous of which was the massacre at Oradour-Sur-Glane.
    It took some of the elements of the division three weeks to get to Normandy.

  139. @Stan d Mute

    at least our Greatest Generation sacrificed itself for the Jews and bequeathed us their Boomer children right? And they told us that they were “Changing the World” right? So anyone who is surprised just hasn’t been paying attention..

    So you weren’t paying attention in History class when they mentioned Pearl Harbor?

    • Replies: @JMcG
  140. @bigdicknick

    isn’t the navy notoriously homosexual? it could have been a bad breakup lmao

    That was the leaked theory in the USS Iowa turret explosion, but the Navy backed off from it. Whether because it was a Wokeness violation or not I cannot tell.

    • Replies: @Ralph L
  141. JMcG says:

    The United States Marine Corps occupied Iceland in July of 1941. Five months before Pearl Harbor. Iceland was an independent, neutral country. The Brits invaded in May of 1940, but wanted their troops for duty elsewhere. So the armed forces of a “neutral” country occupied the territory of a genuinely neutral country. They never mention that in history class.

    • Replies: @gandydancer
  142. @Nathan

    You may argue that protecting the border isn’t law enforcement, but the law says it is…

    Apparently it doesn’t. From your own link to the NORTHCOM site:

    United States Northern Command Defends Our Homeland – Deters, detects, and defeats threats to the United States… USNORTHCOM’s AOR includes air, land and sea approaches and encompasses the continental United States, Alaska, Canada, Mexico… Support also includes counter-drug operations… Per the Posse Comitatus Act, military forces can provide civil support, but cannot become directly involved in law enforcement.

    “[C]ounter-drug operations” are not law enforcement how?

    There is in fact no real legal barrier to using the army to intercept Invaders, other than the gormless and/or partisan fulminations of various judges. But President Andrew Jackson provided the answer to that. What’s lacking is the will to do it, and the argument here is to summon that will.

    It’s true that the DOD isn’t obviously going to be better at this than a border patrol, but that doesn’t salvage your point.

  143. Ralph L says:

    I believe they were trying to avoid finding that their old WWII powder had gone bad, since the Cold War was still somewhat in session.

  144. @David In TN

    One of the reasons Hitler declared war on the USA was that Admiral Doenitz (sp?) convinced him that Kriegsmarine subs could wipe out Allied shipping if given the resources. The resources never came.

    The Russians under Zhukov kicked Japan’s ass in the late 30s in Manchuria. The Japs had their hands full with the mess they’d made in China and were not interested in Round Two. This left the port of Vladisvostok open to receive massive amounts of material from the west coast of the USA.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    , @Johann Ricke
  145. @SimpleSong

    Marginal Revolution University has a related video on this concept, “The O-Ring Theory of Development”. Optimal results occur when workers (or processes) of the same ‘quality’ are grouped together.

  146. @Stan d Mute

    My grandfather worked for GM – he did well – retired in 1970. He told us to stay away from factory work. My dad worked for GM briefly but hated the chaos and got out.

    My 3 siblings and I know some other GM and Ford workers. We buy nothing but Toyotas and Hondas.

  147. JMcG says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    There’s a recent book called Stalin’s War by Sean McMeekin. In it, he contends that the Soviets trans shipped US Aviation fuel to the Japanese in the Pacific. I’ve never seen that anywhere else, so take it with a grain of salt. The Japanese left the shipping between the west coast of the US and Vladivostok entirely unmolested during the war. Vladivostok is on the west coast of the Sea of Japan, maybe 500 moles from Japan itself.

  148. anon[203] • Disclaimer says:

    navy ships would be target practice for CCP and Russian hyper-sonic weapons.

    Best to build space-based weapons and rain destruction from above.

    But that requires high IQ, highly motivated personnel who have a stomach for the fight – and realistic leadership.


    John Derbyshire is right, We Are Doomed

  149. @Jim Don Bob

    The Russians under Zhukov kicked Japan’s ass in the late 30s in Manchuria.

    Based on casualty reports, that was more propaganda victory than reality. The Soviets suffered greater losses despite having more men and better equipment.

    If Japan had continued fighting the Russians instead of attacking south, it’s possible that the Soviets would have been defeated, even as the US stayed out of the war. The reason the Japanese did not, is possibly the fear of what the Germans would do once they had overrun the Russians. The thinking might have been that it was better that the Germans and the Russians keep each other busy. Of course, Japan’s decision to attack the US instead proved disastrous – what they had thought would be a limited war similar to the Russo-Japanese skirmish, with territorial concessions by the Western powers in the Orient, including the US, ended up being an all-out slugfest that destroyed the Japanese military’s control over Hirohito. The shogunate by committee came to an abrupt end on August 15, 1945, with Hirohito’s announcement that the war was over.

  150. @JMcG

    Yes, we were in a low intensity war with Germany before Pearl Harbor, but not in any way that was relevant to many Jews, that I can see. As to the neutrality of Iceland… well, war isn’t patty-cake.

  151. Raches says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Hitler chose to declare war on the United States right after Pearl Harbor for no particular reason other than general Hitlerishness, freeing FDR to have the US declare war on him.

    Mr. Sailer, are you completely unaware of the undeclared naval war that Roosevelt had been waging for months against German ships and submarines? Or… or…

    After America’s great War Criminal had spent years pushing to force a war, the United States was already in a de facto state of war with Germany, in violation of American law and international law and custom. All that Hitler did was to formalize the war, so that he could stop ordering his men not to shoot back.

    Well, I suppose that your colleague David Cole (July 27) put the word out that it’s time for a ritual spit at Hitler. (Compare your comment to his linked essay.) Mr. Cole should stick to what he’s best at, which is jealous sniping at Ron Unz for being too “smaaaaht. (When I was a schoolboy, low-IQ nitwits ridiculed me the same way.)

    • Replies: @Rob
  152. Rob says:

    Lemme help you out, Raches. If that’s what you got out of Cole’s critique of Unz, then when you were a schoolboy, the nitwits weren’t making fun of you for being smart. They were making fun of you, because you


    you are smart, but are actually dumb.

    David Cole has flaws, sure everyone does. Ron Unz runs this pseudosamizdat site with an agenda. Ever wonder why Unz hasn’t been “cancelled”? He’s still kickin’ round the internet because he serves the interests of those who would cancel, have cancelled, Steve Sailer. He pulls so much of the dissident right here, let’s them rage and foam at the mouth about Dah Jooz, while feeding the antisemitism? Why? We get to say bad words. We look as if we think Jews are the only problem. That pushes normies away. One might get a thrill about #WhiteGenocide, but that is just preaching to the choir. If we want to actually have any influence in the directions we want, we have to win the normies. Unz makes that harder. We are all here talking to ourselves, but it’s a Sargasso Sea. Google’s algorithm doesn’t send normies here. We never reach people who should be on the side of white western civ.

    We have trouble talking to normies other places, obeying the ever-more-onerous speech codes, because we practice bad habits here.

    All the time, Unz steadily, but gently, reasonably, ever so politely, pushes the idea that immigrants of all sorts, but especially Mexicans et al are our natural allies. The real opponents are blacks and ‘leftists’

    ¿Cómo están, compañeros disidentes de derecha?( los mestizos piensan que los hermanos no sirven. Los hispanos blancos son solo gente blanca. Hemos asimilado a los blancos antes.

    ¿Los blancos españoles crean infiernos enormemente desiguales dondequiera que dominen? ¡No te preocupes! Se basan en la raza. ¿Mencioné que mi pueblo, los judíos, es pérfido?

    -Ron Unz

    Blacks are an inconvenience. Becoming a third world country is forever. Cole wants to avoid that. Unz? Nope. You?

    And Nazis, please! They lost! The German people will fade from this world because of that Austrian loon. Why pick losers?

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  153. Raches says:

    The attempt to push my buttons by denying my intelligence is remarkable for being by the playbook, which must be based on some Jewish psychobabble about “insecurity”. (Of course, it could also just be stupid jealousy.) It is otherwise beneath reply.

    David Cole has flaws, sure everyone does. Ron Unz runs this pseudosamizdat site with an agenda. [Italics original.]

    This sniping at Mr. Unz in defense of Mr. Cole is consistent with how much the establishment fears Mr. Unz’s American Pravda.

    David Cole is a stereotypical Jew with a stereotypical Jewish history of smiling at you to get you close, then stabbing you in the back. About three decades ago, he cozened some of the more foolish Revisionists, who were delighted to have a token Jew on their side. Now, he twists about and splits hairs like a Jew lawyer to claim that he “never denied the Holocaust”; and he throws under the bus the people who trusted and praised him. If you don’t know that, then you are ill-informed; if you are pretending not to, then you are lying.

    It is ironic that you are accusing Ron Unz of having some nefarious agenda to fool us, and in the same breath defending David Cole, the classic two-faced swindler. Jews like Mr. Cole are exactly the reason why it is difficult to trust Mr. Unz. Perhaps that may be unfair to Mr. Unz. Maybe. I myself parse his words with extra caution, always looking for any hint of dissimulation; well, I am here. I would rather sleep in a bed of venomous snakes than associate myself intellectually with Mr. Cole.

    I sometimes read Mr. Cole’s articles. He is witty—and he keeps me on my toes. Much of what he writes is true, and very well-stated. That makes a great substrate to carry a dose of his poisonous agenda, much of which seems to be maintaining faith in the Holohoax and in Hollywood Hitler. On the American Right, Mr. Cole is now serving as a desperate propaganda counterweight against the effect of Mr. Unz’s breaking the historical blackout.

    I have never yet found even one significant error of fact in those parts of Mr. Unz’s American Pravda series which address topics I already know well. He avoids many common pitfalls which tend to trap “conspiracy theorists”, even seemingly intelligent ones. Most of my criticism would be nitpicks about points that I wish were covered more extensively, but I cannot very well complain. I have found some mistakes in some of his other articles, but they are of a nature that could be honest examples of the proverb that “to err is human”. Absent evidence of malice, I will not convict him on the basis of his being imperfect.

    Of course, Mr. Unz has an agenda. Everybody does: I do, you do—surely, Mr. Cole does!

    I do not agree with Mr. Unz’s agenda. You do not understand it. Since it is off-topic here, I should reserve any detailed analysis of Mr. Unz’s agenda for commentary on his own articles. I will merely suggest that if you read at least a quarter-million words of what he has written—just a sample of the most important articles—and you examine the design of The Unz Review, and you are possessed of a high native intelligence, then you may figure it out for yourself.

    Ever wonder why Unz hasn’t been “cancelled”?

    How would Mr. Unz be “cancelled”? He made his own money, so he is not afraid of being fired from a job. Unlike President Trump, Mr. Unz is not dumb enough to build his power on Twitter—is not dumb enough to use Twitter at all! (Neither am I.) He has spent years quietly building up his own website. If his hosting were to be cancelled, he is smart enough to know how to handle that. Unless or until Biden packs the Supreme Court to do to the First Amendment what has already been done to the Second, the only way to shut Mr. Unz down is to murder him, or resort to similar means.

    He’s still kickin’ round the internet because he serves the interests of those who would cancel, have cancelled, Steve Sailer.

    Mr. Unz serves the interests of those who have cancelled Steve Sailer, by publishing the Sailer blog. OK.

    (Since we are on the Sailer blog here, I should probably mention that although I find Mr. Sailer as politically disagreeable as he probably finds me, I appreciate much of his work on race and IQ issues. Mr. Rob, by the way, would you suggest that IQ is unimportant?)

    Google’s algorithm doesn’t send normies here.

    Oh, wait. So, Mr. Unz has been cancelled in one of the few significant ways the establishment can do so without resort to violence. Your theory has a few flaws, methinks.

    Anyway, why is Mr. Unz to blame for his being cancelled by Google? This website is his intellectual baby, and the source of his power. If you think that he colluded with Google to limit access to The Unz Review in some grand scheme to create a controlled-opposition blackhole, may I suggest that you consider the possibility that the Israelis are being injected with saline instead of the Pfizer bioweapon, and Wyoming does not exist, and the moon is a hoax, too. Hey, I have never been to the moon. I am not really sure that it exists.

    We have trouble talking to normies other places, obeying the ever-more-onerous speech codes, because we practice bad habits here.

    You are presumptuous. I am not part of your “we”.

    Mr. Unz runs a very broad range of articles for the masses, from Andrew Anglin from Ted Rall. Frankly, I dislike much of it—maybe even most of it. (Needless to say, I dislike Mr. Rall. If wannabe-Nazi Mr. Anglin were living in National-Socialist Germany, he would have been arrested for socially destructive degeneracy and put to work in a labor camp long ago. No, Reichsminister Dr. Goebbels would not accept “ironic humor” as an excuse.) But then, I am not of the masses.

    Mr. Unz can influence the masses for whatever his agenda may be; and more importantly, traffic comes and links get passed around. His really important work is highly intellectual. 99% of people are unable to read it. But those who can read it are more likely to be important. The problem is to make them aware of this site. The best library in the world will not help much, if nobody knows that it exists. The masses spread awareness of this site.

    And Nazis, please! They lost! The German people will fade from this world because of that Austrian loon. Why pick losers?

    I reasonably presume that you are a white American. If that is correct, then your statement is not only false and disgusting, but also ridiculous: The worst loser of the Second World War was America!

    White Americans are now merely suffering the ineluctable natural consequences of their own guilt. They who crushed the free nations of the world under the rubric of “liberating” them thus condemned their own posterity. They who fought a World War against racism shall not be heard to cry for their race. They who fought a Jewish war to save the Soviet Union and divide Europe as spoils, spoils have thence become. They who continue to destroy Aryan Europe are beneath contempt, let alone sympathy.

    They must now dree their weird.

    Thus spake Raches.

    Mr. Rob, at this point in history, you will be lucky if Mr. Unz integrates you with mestizos. At least they are not rhymes with triggers. Like it or not, I am simply stating the facts. American whites were doomed as of 1945, and they did it to their themselves. No wonder I love Adolf Hitler (Z”L).

    Such was our folly. Our guilt is undeniable.  It cannot be palliated. We made the Yids our masters, and it was our power that consummated the Suicide of the West. And it is only natural that Europeans now take satisfaction in the decay and coming dissolution of the contrivers of their ruin.

    [Professor Revilo P. Oliver, Liberty Bell, February 1992, p. 7.]

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