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I did a podcast with James Kirkpatrick for VDARE’s book club on Tom Wolfe’s Bonfire of the Vanities. You can listen to the first 20 minutes for free there.

 
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  1. If Reddit could hear that voice Sailer would already be President.

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @Desiderius

    Speaking of having a voice, what is the "book" on Ron DeSantis?

    Ronald Reagan was hated by the Left, and Mr. Reagan could speak emphatically ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"), but I don't think he ever sounded strident.

    Donald Trump is despised and mocked by the Left and many who consider themselves on the Right. Gosh knows Mr. Trump can speak emphatically and especially mocking of those whom he disagrees with, but there is always that twinkle in his eye, that inflection in his voice that a lot of this is entertainment rather than his personal animus. You know, like the WWE professional wrestling gig of his.

    Ron DeSantis is recently described by Joe Scarborough as being the current "rock star" of political leaders on the Right. He pushes all the correct buttons to rile up and troll the correct group of people. But there is a certain something about him that he comes up short.

    We all know the Babylon Bee annoys the Left with a low tolerance for being satirized, but they are also able to serve up satire to the Right and especially Mr. DeSantis

    https://babylonbee.com/news/ron-desantis-dyes-hair-gets-spray-tan-in-preparation-for-2024-presidential-run/

    I found that satire on target because is seems Ron DeSantis is trying really, really hard to be the successor to Donald Trump, but there is something about him being too earnest and trying too hard that is captured with that Photo Shop image of the Florida governor with dyed hair and a badly applied spray tan?

    Maybe some people don't make the transition from a print to an audio/visual medium. Emmett Tyrrell is an enormous amount of fun to read, and he is good-enough looking, but his reedy tenor speaking voice gave him 5 minutes of exposure as a TV pundit before he was benched. iSteve has an OK speaking voice, but he has a lot more "punch" as a writer than as a talking head on video or in an audio recording?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Desiderius, @Jonathan Mason

    , @Dieter Kief
    @Desiderius

    If what - Redddit? - and what: Would hear this voice - then what: He would be president? - Like president of - what exactly, Desiderius? - President of the film-critics guild of Northern L. A.? - Of the Internat'l Tom Wolfe Preservation Society / aka. The Kinks Fan club of North America, section 56? The Westcoast Vermeerists? - I could see something like that - quite easily (M. Jagger).

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @MEH 0910
    @Desiderius

    https://twitter.com/RepAndyBiggsAZ/status/1408147319636246537

    https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1408177247681318912

    https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Creepy%20Joe%22&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

    Replies: @Desiderius

  2. @Desiderius
    If Reddit could hear that voice Sailer would already be President.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @Dieter Kief, @MEH 0910

    Speaking of having a voice, what is the “book” on Ron DeSantis?

    Ronald Reagan was hated by the Left, and Mr. Reagan could speak emphatically (“Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!”), but I don’t think he ever sounded strident.

    Donald Trump is despised and mocked by the Left and many who consider themselves on the Right. Gosh knows Mr. Trump can speak emphatically and especially mocking of those whom he disagrees with, but there is always that twinkle in his eye, that inflection in his voice that a lot of this is entertainment rather than his personal animus. You know, like the WWE professional wrestling gig of his.

    Ron DeSantis is recently described by Joe Scarborough as being the current “rock star” of political leaders on the Right. He pushes all the correct buttons to rile up and troll the correct group of people. But there is a certain something about him that he comes up short.

    We all know the Babylon Bee annoys the Left with a low tolerance for being satirized, but they are also able to serve up satire to the Right and especially Mr. DeSantis

    https://babylonbee.com/news/ron-desantis-dyes-hair-gets-spray-tan-in-preparation-for-2024-presidential-run/

    I found that satire on target because is seems Ron DeSantis is trying really, really hard to be the successor to Donald Trump, but there is something about him being too earnest and trying too hard that is captured with that Photo Shop image of the Florida governor with dyed hair and a badly applied spray tan?

    Maybe some people don’t make the transition from a print to an audio/visual medium. Emmett Tyrrell is an enormous amount of fun to read, and he is good-enough looking, but his reedy tenor speaking voice gave him 5 minutes of exposure as a TV pundit before he was benched. iSteve has an OK speaking voice, but he has a lot more “punch” as a writer than as a talking head on video or in an audio recording?

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Inquiring Mind

    Lots of writers are no talkers.
    Seems like these are two different - things, writing and talking.
    Writers compare to talkers as poets do to novelists. They share a sphere, but not trade - or a technique (or whatever it is that keeps them separated while sharing a sphere indeed).

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Desiderius
    @Inquiring Mind

    DeSantis needs one of these:

    https://youtu.be/gSw6ei5tdbg

    As do we.

    That is all if I'm not mistaken.

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Inquiring Mind

    DeSantis is a strange fellow. Physically he looks somewhat like a baboon, with his low brow and strange hair, but he is very intelligent and a very hands-on governor.

    The conventional cliche about DeSantis is that he is a Trump wannabe, but I think that he is much more his own man than people would think.

    Obviously he sees no harm in courting former Trump voters.

    DeSantis grew up in a small town in Central Florida and attended the local high school and then made his way to an Ivy League education, and has written at least one book, so he is certainly a force to be reckoned with.

  3. Signed up for the book club but can’t seem to get access to the full podcast :\

  4. I’ve changed my mind about covid being biowarfare.

    I thought it was. But now that the CIA says it was, I think it wasn’t.

    I think now that it was a regular natural disease endemic in the US for a long time before they noticed it.

    • Replies: @guest
    @obwandiyag

    While Official Denial/Confirmation usually means the opposite is the truth, sometime the Official Story can be truthful. Up to a point. If it's in someone's interest to admit part or all of the Truth.

    Or if a lie has served its onto and is no longer needed. Which is the case with many things first emphatically denied but eventually accepted as "No Duh, Everybody knows that."

  5. Looks interesting, but poor sound quality. Steve you might need a better microphone.

  6. Steve should do more podcast interviews like this one. It shows off his uncommon cultural, literary, historical, intellectual breadth to great advantage. His modesty of style is disarming.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Luke Lea

    I wonder what Joe Rogan would ask him - especially about golf and football and stuff. Boxing. Cars. (Half serious - the serious part being: I wonder what Joe Rogan would ask him - or Sam Harris.)

  7. @obwandiyag
    I've changed my mind about covid being biowarfare.

    I thought it was. But now that the CIA says it was, I think it wasn't.

    I think now that it was a regular natural disease endemic in the US for a long time before they noticed it.

    Replies: @guest

    While Official Denial/Confirmation usually means the opposite is the truth, sometime the Official Story can be truthful. Up to a point. If it’s in someone’s interest to admit part or all of the Truth.

    Or if a lie has served its onto and is no longer needed. Which is the case with many things first emphatically denied but eventually accepted as “No Duh, Everybody knows that.”

  8. @Inquiring Mind
    @Desiderius

    Speaking of having a voice, what is the "book" on Ron DeSantis?

    Ronald Reagan was hated by the Left, and Mr. Reagan could speak emphatically ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"), but I don't think he ever sounded strident.

    Donald Trump is despised and mocked by the Left and many who consider themselves on the Right. Gosh knows Mr. Trump can speak emphatically and especially mocking of those whom he disagrees with, but there is always that twinkle in his eye, that inflection in his voice that a lot of this is entertainment rather than his personal animus. You know, like the WWE professional wrestling gig of his.

    Ron DeSantis is recently described by Joe Scarborough as being the current "rock star" of political leaders on the Right. He pushes all the correct buttons to rile up and troll the correct group of people. But there is a certain something about him that he comes up short.

    We all know the Babylon Bee annoys the Left with a low tolerance for being satirized, but they are also able to serve up satire to the Right and especially Mr. DeSantis

    https://babylonbee.com/news/ron-desantis-dyes-hair-gets-spray-tan-in-preparation-for-2024-presidential-run/

    I found that satire on target because is seems Ron DeSantis is trying really, really hard to be the successor to Donald Trump, but there is something about him being too earnest and trying too hard that is captured with that Photo Shop image of the Florida governor with dyed hair and a badly applied spray tan?

    Maybe some people don't make the transition from a print to an audio/visual medium. Emmett Tyrrell is an enormous amount of fun to read, and he is good-enough looking, but his reedy tenor speaking voice gave him 5 minutes of exposure as a TV pundit before he was benched. iSteve has an OK speaking voice, but he has a lot more "punch" as a writer than as a talking head on video or in an audio recording?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Desiderius, @Jonathan Mason

    Lots of writers are no talkers.
    Seems like these are two different – things, writing and talking.
    Writers compare to talkers as poets do to novelists. They share a sphere, but not trade – or a technique (or whatever it is that keeps them separated while sharing a sphere indeed).

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Dieter Kief

    Have you read Soldo's interview with Andreesen? There's a fascinating part where they -- discuss -- how writing a correspondence is different from having a conversation, and the internet applications of each. The Dubrovnik Interview has restored my faith in writing, there is no talking as good.

  9. @Luke Lea
    Steve should do more podcast interviews like this one. It shows off his uncommon cultural, literary, historical, intellectual breadth to great advantage. His modesty of style is disarming.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    I wonder what Joe Rogan would ask him – especially about golf and football and stuff. Boxing. Cars. (Half serious – the serious part being: I wonder what Joe Rogan would ask him – or Sam Harris.)

  10. @Desiderius
    If Reddit could hear that voice Sailer would already be President.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @Dieter Kief, @MEH 0910

    If what – Redddit? – and what: Would hear this voice – then what: He would be president? – Like president of – what exactly, Desiderius? – President of the film-critics guild of Northern L. A.? – Of the Internat’l Tom Wolfe Preservation Society / aka. The Kinks Fan club of North America, section 56? The Westcoast Vermeerists? – I could see something like that – quite easily (M. Jagger).

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Dieter Kief

    Why vote for Pedro when you can have Napoleon himself?

    He'd be the best President since TR, and maybe Pierce.

  11. Anon[409] • Disclaimer says:

    I’ve been brainstorming some ideas for Steve Sailer podcasts or video podcasts. How about one that covers movies and golf course design? I’m wondering who the partner/sidekick could be for that?

    Or how about a one-off between Steve and Charles Murray? Steve reviewed the book. And Murray seems to have shucked any reservations about forbidden people: “My previous Tweet was too flip. Let me be explicit: I admire Jared Taylor’s civility and data-driven arguments. He portrayed Facing Reality fairly. We have utterly and irreconcilably opposed aspirations for the future of our country.”

    A Steve and Mickey Kaus one-0ff would also be interesting. And Robert Wright. I’m sure that Wright would have all kinds of inaccurate misconceptions about what Steve thinks, but he listens and has the sangfroid to deal with the possibility that he has misjudged things.

    And Glenn Lowry. He is open to criticisms of black culture, although he doesn’t seem to accept the IQ thing … yet. He’s a really smart guy who behaved like a dumb thug when he was young, so he’s literally the exception that proves the rule.

  12. @Inquiring Mind
    @Desiderius

    Speaking of having a voice, what is the "book" on Ron DeSantis?

    Ronald Reagan was hated by the Left, and Mr. Reagan could speak emphatically ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"), but I don't think he ever sounded strident.

    Donald Trump is despised and mocked by the Left and many who consider themselves on the Right. Gosh knows Mr. Trump can speak emphatically and especially mocking of those whom he disagrees with, but there is always that twinkle in his eye, that inflection in his voice that a lot of this is entertainment rather than his personal animus. You know, like the WWE professional wrestling gig of his.

    Ron DeSantis is recently described by Joe Scarborough as being the current "rock star" of political leaders on the Right. He pushes all the correct buttons to rile up and troll the correct group of people. But there is a certain something about him that he comes up short.

    We all know the Babylon Bee annoys the Left with a low tolerance for being satirized, but they are also able to serve up satire to the Right and especially Mr. DeSantis

    https://babylonbee.com/news/ron-desantis-dyes-hair-gets-spray-tan-in-preparation-for-2024-presidential-run/

    I found that satire on target because is seems Ron DeSantis is trying really, really hard to be the successor to Donald Trump, but there is something about him being too earnest and trying too hard that is captured with that Photo Shop image of the Florida governor with dyed hair and a badly applied spray tan?

    Maybe some people don't make the transition from a print to an audio/visual medium. Emmett Tyrrell is an enormous amount of fun to read, and he is good-enough looking, but his reedy tenor speaking voice gave him 5 minutes of exposure as a TV pundit before he was benched. iSteve has an OK speaking voice, but he has a lot more "punch" as a writer than as a talking head on video or in an audio recording?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Desiderius, @Jonathan Mason

    DeSantis needs one of these:

    As do we.

    That is all if I’m not mistaken.

  13. @Dieter Kief
    @Inquiring Mind

    Lots of writers are no talkers.
    Seems like these are two different - things, writing and talking.
    Writers compare to talkers as poets do to novelists. They share a sphere, but not trade - or a technique (or whatever it is that keeps them separated while sharing a sphere indeed).

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Have you read Soldo’s interview with Andreesen? There’s a fascinating part where they — discuss — how writing a correspondence is different from having a conversation, and the internet applications of each. The Dubrovnik Interview has restored my faith in writing, there is no talking as good.

  14. @Desiderius
    If Reddit could hear that voice Sailer would already be President.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @Dieter Kief, @MEH 0910

    https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Creepy%20Joe%22&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @MEH 0910

    I hope he serves the whole term. Let the sons-of-bitches who selected him suffer through every grueling minute.

  15. It usually takes a family multiple generations before they really fall off the edge.

    This might explain why the White Underclass is so much smaller&less visible than the Black Underclass.

    Lower-income Black families cluster together in high-density urban neighborhoods and form multiple generations of dysfunction, creating the conditions in which an Underclass neighborhood can calcify. Lower-income Whites (who usually are spaced far apart in their rural communities or smaller-sized metros) usually don’t have multiple generations of dysfunction, perhaps due to regression to the mean.

  16. @Dieter Kief
    @Desiderius

    If what - Redddit? - and what: Would hear this voice - then what: He would be president? - Like president of - what exactly, Desiderius? - President of the film-critics guild of Northern L. A.? - Of the Internat'l Tom Wolfe Preservation Society / aka. The Kinks Fan club of North America, section 56? The Westcoast Vermeerists? - I could see something like that - quite easily (M. Jagger).

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Why vote for Pedro when you can have Napoleon himself?

    He’d be the best President since TR, and maybe Pierce.

  17. @MEH 0910
    @Desiderius

    https://twitter.com/RepAndyBiggsAZ/status/1408147319636246537

    https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1408177247681318912

    https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Creepy%20Joe%22&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

    Replies: @Desiderius

    I hope he serves the whole term. Let the sons-of-bitches who selected him suffer through every grueling minute.

  18. I really like it. Real talk

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Supercalifragilistic

    "Real talk."

    Did Steve sound like Tiny Duck?

  19. @Inquiring Mind
    @Desiderius

    Speaking of having a voice, what is the "book" on Ron DeSantis?

    Ronald Reagan was hated by the Left, and Mr. Reagan could speak emphatically ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"), but I don't think he ever sounded strident.

    Donald Trump is despised and mocked by the Left and many who consider themselves on the Right. Gosh knows Mr. Trump can speak emphatically and especially mocking of those whom he disagrees with, but there is always that twinkle in his eye, that inflection in his voice that a lot of this is entertainment rather than his personal animus. You know, like the WWE professional wrestling gig of his.

    Ron DeSantis is recently described by Joe Scarborough as being the current "rock star" of political leaders on the Right. He pushes all the correct buttons to rile up and troll the correct group of people. But there is a certain something about him that he comes up short.

    We all know the Babylon Bee annoys the Left with a low tolerance for being satirized, but they are also able to serve up satire to the Right and especially Mr. DeSantis

    https://babylonbee.com/news/ron-desantis-dyes-hair-gets-spray-tan-in-preparation-for-2024-presidential-run/

    I found that satire on target because is seems Ron DeSantis is trying really, really hard to be the successor to Donald Trump, but there is something about him being too earnest and trying too hard that is captured with that Photo Shop image of the Florida governor with dyed hair and a badly applied spray tan?

    Maybe some people don't make the transition from a print to an audio/visual medium. Emmett Tyrrell is an enormous amount of fun to read, and he is good-enough looking, but his reedy tenor speaking voice gave him 5 minutes of exposure as a TV pundit before he was benched. iSteve has an OK speaking voice, but he has a lot more "punch" as a writer than as a talking head on video or in an audio recording?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Desiderius, @Jonathan Mason

    DeSantis is a strange fellow. Physically he looks somewhat like a baboon, with his low brow and strange hair, but he is very intelligent and a very hands-on governor.

    The conventional cliche about DeSantis is that he is a Trump wannabe, but I think that he is much more his own man than people would think.

    Obviously he sees no harm in courting former Trump voters.

    DeSantis grew up in a small town in Central Florida and attended the local high school and then made his way to an Ivy League education, and has written at least one book, so he is certainly a force to be reckoned with.

  20. @Supercalifragilistic
    I really like it. Real talk

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “Real talk.”

    Did Steve sound like Tiny Duck?

  21. Steve, very nice podcast. I enjoyed it quite a bit.

    Watching DeSantis on Tucker Carlson Today (his hour-ish 1-on-1s) I was happy to see Ron doesn’t seem to be a total shallow cliche spouter. Might be close to a real deal, versus a shallow Marco Rubio-like pol.


  22. [MORE]

    When Brian De Palma agreed to allow Julie Salamon unlimited access to the film production of Tom Wolfe’s best-selling book The Bonfire of the Vanities, both director and journalist must have felt like they were on to something big. How could it lose? But instead Salamon got a front-row seat at the Hollywood disaster of the decade. She shadowed the film from its early stages through the last of the eviscerating reviews, and met everyone from the actors to the technicians to the studio executives. They’d all signed on for a blockbuster, but there was a sense of impending doom from the start–heart-of-gold characters replaced Wolfe’s satiric creations; affable Tom Hanks was cast as the patrician heel; Melanie Griffith appeared mid-shoot with new, bigger breasts. With a keen eye and ear, Salamon shows us how the best of intentions turned into a legendary Hollywood debacle.

    The Devil’s Candy joins John Gregory Dunne’s The Studio, Steven Bach’s Final Cut, and William Goldman’s Adventures in the Screen Trade as a classic for anyone interested in the workings of Hollywood. With a new afterword profiling De Palma ten years after the movie’s devastating flop (and this book’s best-selling publication), Julie Salamon has created a riveting insider’s portrait of an industry where art, talent, ego, and money combine and clash on a monumental scale.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    The Plot Thickens: The Devil's Candy - Episode 1: Lighting the Fire
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ucm8Wv4-b0


    A decision has to be made that could make or break The Bonfire of the Vanities (1990): who will play the female lead? It comes down to two actresses – the established, expensive and high-maintenance Melanie Griffith or an unknown, alluring 19-year-old named Uma Thurman. Suddenly the producer, Peter Guber, vanishes from the scene, departing both the movie and the studio in a whirl of bad publicity.
     
    The Plot Thickens: The Devil's Candy - Episode 2: Reaching for the Stars – and Paying the Price
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7bR8XRoFI8

    Episode 2: Reaching for the Stars – and Paying the Price
    Tom Hanks signs on to play amoral stockbroker Sherman McCoy, and he’s so beloved that nobody recognizes how wrong he is for the part. There's immediate pushback against Bruce Willis as the other male lead, since his role was written as British. But the hardest decision comes when the director insists that a Jewish judge be played by a Black actor, to soften the film’s racial tensions.
     
    The Plot Thickens: The Devil's Candy - Episode 3: The War Zone
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih2h-4vJc3o

    Shooting hasn't even started and the movie is already under attack. Detailed leaks and star outbursts are reported daily by a hungry press. Manhattan socialites call in favors to ask for small (and sometimes large) roles. Courtroom locations, snippets of dialogue, even a single shot of a plane landing at JFK – every little decision becomes a battle as the crew preps for filming.
     
    The Plot Thickens: The Devil's Candy - Episode 4: Wire Without a Net
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-7cjEjxQRw

    The cast shows its true colors: some are easygoing and relatable, but not Bruce Willis. The New York shoot spirals over budget as the courtroom scene can only be done at night, and the film’s entire opening is scrapped in favor of the most expensive Steadicam shot ever devised. Meanwhile, Bronx residents show up to throw eggs and lightbulbs at the filmmakers, and one irate New Yorker confronts Brian De Palma directly.
     
    https://theplotthickens.tcm.com/

    TUESDAY, JULY 27
    EPISODE FIVE
    HOLLYWOOD HEAT
    As production moves to Los Angeles, rumors swirl with accusations of sexism, starvation, and a scandalous affair happening on set.
     

    TUESDAY, AUGUST 3
    EPISODE SIX
    THE BEST MOVIE WE EVER MADE
    Test screening scores start high but quickly drop, and the post-production team begins to realize that the movie is in trouble.
     

    TUESDAY, AUGUST 10
    EPISODE SEVEN
    YOU'VE GOT TO BE A GENIUS TO MAKE A MOVIE THIS BAD
    The Bonfire of the Vanities tanks with both critics and audiences, as hundreds of people try to figure out what went wrong.
     

    The Plot Thickens playlist:
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC55WRXRuDkw9q2TuGx1yyBKyLsnSCmGj

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    , @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    Amazon appears to now be blocking Amazon links placed in Unz Review comments. Let’s try the comment over with a Barnes & Noble link instead:

    https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/devils-candy-julie-salamon/1103561065

    https://prodimage.images-bn.com/pimages/9780306811234_p0_v5_s550x406.jpg


    "A definitive portrait of the madness of big-time moviemaking" (Newsweek), now the basis for the new season of TCM's hit podcast, "The Plot Thickens"

    When Brian De Palma agreed to allow Julie Salamon unlimited access to the film production of Tom Wolfe's best-selling book The Bonfire of the Vanities, both director and journalist must have felt like they were on to something big. How could it lose? But instead Salamon got a front-row seat at the Hollywood disaster of the decade. She shadowed the film from its early stages through the last of the eviscerating reviews, and met everyone from the actors to the technicians to the studio executives. They'd all signed on for a blockbuster, but there was a sense of impending doom from the start--heart-of-gold characters replaced Wolfe's satiric creations; affable Tom Hanks was cast as the patrician heel; Melanie Griffith appeared mid-shoot with new, bigger breasts. With a keen eye and ear, Salamon shows us how the best of intentions turned into a legendary Hollywood debacle.

    The Devil's Candy joins John Gregory Dunne's The Studio, Steven Bach's Final Cut, and William Goldman's Adventures in the Screen Trade as a classic for anyone interested in the workings of Hollywood. With a new afterword profiling De Palma ten years after the movie's devastating flop (and this book's best-selling publication), Julie Salamon has created a riveting insider's portrait of an industry where art, talent, ego, and money combine and clash on a monumental scale.
     
  23. @MEH 0910
    https://www.amazon.com/Devils-Candy-Anatomy-Hollywood-Fiasco/dp/0306811235/

    When Brian De Palma agreed to allow Julie Salamon unlimited access to the film production of Tom Wolfe's best-selling book The Bonfire of the Vanities, both director and journalist must have felt like they were on to something big. How could it lose? But instead Salamon got a front-row seat at the Hollywood disaster of the decade. She shadowed the film from its early stages through the last of the eviscerating reviews, and met everyone from the actors to the technicians to the studio executives. They'd all signed on for a blockbuster, but there was a sense of impending doom from the start--heart-of-gold characters replaced Wolfe's satiric creations; affable Tom Hanks was cast as the patrician heel; Melanie Griffith appeared mid-shoot with new, bigger breasts. With a keen eye and ear, Salamon shows us how the best of intentions turned into a legendary Hollywood debacle.

    The Devil's Candy joins John Gregory Dunne's The Studio, Steven Bach's Final Cut, and William Goldman's Adventures in the Screen Trade as a classic for anyone interested in the workings of Hollywood. With a new afterword profiling De Palma ten years after the movie's devastating flop (and this book's best-selling publication), Julie Salamon has created a riveting insider's portrait of an industry where art, talent, ego, and money combine and clash on a monumental scale.
     

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

    The Plot Thickens: The Devil’s Candy – Episode 1: Lighting the Fire

    A decision has to be made that could make or break The Bonfire of the Vanities (1990): who will play the female lead? It comes down to two actresses – the established, expensive and high-maintenance Melanie Griffith or an unknown, alluring 19-year-old named Uma Thurman. Suddenly the producer, Peter Guber, vanishes from the scene, departing both the movie and the studio in a whirl of bad publicity.

    The Plot Thickens: The Devil’s Candy – Episode 2: Reaching for the Stars – and Paying the Price

    Episode 2: Reaching for the Stars – and Paying the Price
    Tom Hanks signs on to play amoral stockbroker Sherman McCoy, and he’s so beloved that nobody recognizes how wrong he is for the part. There’s immediate pushback against Bruce Willis as the other male lead, since his role was written as British. But the hardest decision comes when the director insists that a Jewish judge be played by a Black actor, to soften the film’s racial tensions.

    The Plot Thickens: The Devil’s Candy – Episode 3: The War Zone

    Shooting hasn’t even started and the movie is already under attack. Detailed leaks and star outbursts are reported daily by a hungry press. Manhattan socialites call in favors to ask for small (and sometimes large) roles. Courtroom locations, snippets of dialogue, even a single shot of a plane landing at JFK – every little decision becomes a battle as the crew preps for filming.

    The Plot Thickens: The Devil’s Candy – Episode 4: Wire Without a Net

    The cast shows its true colors: some are easygoing and relatable, but not Bruce Willis. The New York shoot spirals over budget as the courtroom scene can only be done at night, and the film’s entire opening is scrapped in favor of the most expensive Steadicam shot ever devised. Meanwhile, Bronx residents show up to throw eggs and lightbulbs at the filmmakers, and one irate New Yorker confronts Brian De Palma directly.

    https://theplotthickens.tcm.com/

    TUESDAY, JULY 27
    EPISODE FIVE
    HOLLYWOOD HEAT
    As production moves to Los Angeles, rumors swirl with accusations of sexism, starvation, and a scandalous affair happening on set.

    TUESDAY, AUGUST 3
    EPISODE SIX
    THE BEST MOVIE WE EVER MADE
    Test screening scores start high but quickly drop, and the post-production team begins to realize that the movie is in trouble.

    TUESDAY, AUGUST 10
    EPISODE SEVEN
    YOU’VE GOT TO BE A GENIUS TO MAKE A MOVIE THIS BAD
    The Bonfire of the Vanities tanks with both critics and audiences, as hundreds of people try to figure out what went wrong.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    The Plot Thickens: The Devil's Candy - Episode 5: Hollywood Heat
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNyU7_9pQIg


    As production moves to Los Angeles, the specter of sexism clouds The Bonfire of the Vanities. Rumors swirl among the crew: Melanie Griffith’s costumes need to be refitted, supporting star Kim Cattrall has been starving herself and, most salacious of all, actress Beth Broderick, who has the raciest scene in the movie, has secretly been having an affair on the set. Listen now for the sordid details.
     
    https://theplotthickens.tcm.com/season-two/
    https://theplotthickens.tcm.com/season-two/episode-guide/

    I see that PDF transcripts for each episode are available:

    EPISODE ONE: LIGHTING THE FIRE transcript

    EPISODE TWO: REACHING FOR THE STARS AND PAYING THE PRICE transcript

    EPISODE THREE: THE WAR ZONE transcript

    EPISODE FOUR: WIRE WITHOUT A NET transcript

    EPISODE FIVE: HOLLYWOOD HEAT transcript
  24. @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    The Plot Thickens: The Devil's Candy - Episode 1: Lighting the Fire
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ucm8Wv4-b0


    A decision has to be made that could make or break The Bonfire of the Vanities (1990): who will play the female lead? It comes down to two actresses – the established, expensive and high-maintenance Melanie Griffith or an unknown, alluring 19-year-old named Uma Thurman. Suddenly the producer, Peter Guber, vanishes from the scene, departing both the movie and the studio in a whirl of bad publicity.
     
    The Plot Thickens: The Devil's Candy - Episode 2: Reaching for the Stars – and Paying the Price
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7bR8XRoFI8

    Episode 2: Reaching for the Stars – and Paying the Price
    Tom Hanks signs on to play amoral stockbroker Sherman McCoy, and he’s so beloved that nobody recognizes how wrong he is for the part. There's immediate pushback against Bruce Willis as the other male lead, since his role was written as British. But the hardest decision comes when the director insists that a Jewish judge be played by a Black actor, to soften the film’s racial tensions.
     
    The Plot Thickens: The Devil's Candy - Episode 3: The War Zone
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih2h-4vJc3o

    Shooting hasn't even started and the movie is already under attack. Detailed leaks and star outbursts are reported daily by a hungry press. Manhattan socialites call in favors to ask for small (and sometimes large) roles. Courtroom locations, snippets of dialogue, even a single shot of a plane landing at JFK – every little decision becomes a battle as the crew preps for filming.
     
    The Plot Thickens: The Devil's Candy - Episode 4: Wire Without a Net
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-7cjEjxQRw

    The cast shows its true colors: some are easygoing and relatable, but not Bruce Willis. The New York shoot spirals over budget as the courtroom scene can only be done at night, and the film’s entire opening is scrapped in favor of the most expensive Steadicam shot ever devised. Meanwhile, Bronx residents show up to throw eggs and lightbulbs at the filmmakers, and one irate New Yorker confronts Brian De Palma directly.
     
    https://theplotthickens.tcm.com/

    TUESDAY, JULY 27
    EPISODE FIVE
    HOLLYWOOD HEAT
    As production moves to Los Angeles, rumors swirl with accusations of sexism, starvation, and a scandalous affair happening on set.
     

    TUESDAY, AUGUST 3
    EPISODE SIX
    THE BEST MOVIE WE EVER MADE
    Test screening scores start high but quickly drop, and the post-production team begins to realize that the movie is in trouble.
     

    TUESDAY, AUGUST 10
    EPISODE SEVEN
    YOU'VE GOT TO BE A GENIUS TO MAKE A MOVIE THIS BAD
    The Bonfire of the Vanities tanks with both critics and audiences, as hundreds of people try to figure out what went wrong.
     

    The Plot Thickens playlist:
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC55WRXRuDkw9q2TuGx1yyBKyLsnSCmGj

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    The Plot Thickens: The Devil’s Candy – Episode 5: Hollywood Heat

    As production moves to Los Angeles, the specter of sexism clouds The Bonfire of the Vanities. Rumors swirl among the crew: Melanie Griffith’s costumes need to be refitted, supporting star Kim Cattrall has been starving herself and, most salacious of all, actress Beth Broderick, who has the raciest scene in the movie, has secretly been having an affair on the set. Listen now for the sordid details.

    https://theplotthickens.tcm.com/season-two/
    https://theplotthickens.tcm.com/season-two/episode-guide/

    I see that PDF transcripts for each episode are available:

    EPISODE ONE: LIGHTING THE FIRE transcript

    EPISODE TWO: REACHING FOR THE STARS AND PAYING THE PRICE transcript

    EPISODE THREE: THE WAR ZONE transcript

    EPISODE FOUR: WIRE WITHOUT A NET transcript

    EPISODE FIVE: HOLLYWOOD HEAT transcript

  25. @MEH 0910
    https://www.amazon.com/Devils-Candy-Anatomy-Hollywood-Fiasco/dp/0306811235/

    When Brian De Palma agreed to allow Julie Salamon unlimited access to the film production of Tom Wolfe's best-selling book The Bonfire of the Vanities, both director and journalist must have felt like they were on to something big. How could it lose? But instead Salamon got a front-row seat at the Hollywood disaster of the decade. She shadowed the film from its early stages through the last of the eviscerating reviews, and met everyone from the actors to the technicians to the studio executives. They'd all signed on for a blockbuster, but there was a sense of impending doom from the start--heart-of-gold characters replaced Wolfe's satiric creations; affable Tom Hanks was cast as the patrician heel; Melanie Griffith appeared mid-shoot with new, bigger breasts. With a keen eye and ear, Salamon shows us how the best of intentions turned into a legendary Hollywood debacle.

    The Devil's Candy joins John Gregory Dunne's The Studio, Steven Bach's Final Cut, and William Goldman's Adventures in the Screen Trade as a classic for anyone interested in the workings of Hollywood. With a new afterword profiling De Palma ten years after the movie's devastating flop (and this book's best-selling publication), Julie Salamon has created a riveting insider's portrait of an industry where art, talent, ego, and money combine and clash on a monumental scale.
     

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

    Amazon appears to now be blocking Amazon links placed in Unz Review comments. Let’s try the comment over with a Barnes & Noble link instead:

    https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/devils-candy-julie-salamon/1103561065

    “A definitive portrait of the madness of big-time moviemaking” (Newsweek), now the basis for the new season of TCM’s hit podcast, “The Plot Thickens”

    When Brian De Palma agreed to allow Julie Salamon unlimited access to the film production of Tom Wolfe’s best-selling book The Bonfire of the Vanities, both director and journalist must have felt like they were on to something big. How could it lose? But instead Salamon got a front-row seat at the Hollywood disaster of the decade. She shadowed the film from its early stages through the last of the eviscerating reviews, and met everyone from the actors to the technicians to the studio executives. They’d all signed on for a blockbuster, but there was a sense of impending doom from the start–heart-of-gold characters replaced Wolfe’s satiric creations; affable Tom Hanks was cast as the patrician heel; Melanie Griffith appeared mid-shoot with new, bigger breasts. With a keen eye and ear, Salamon shows us how the best of intentions turned into a legendary Hollywood debacle.

    The Devil’s Candy joins John Gregory Dunne’s The Studio, Steven Bach’s Final Cut, and William Goldman’s Adventures in the Screen Trade as a classic for anyone interested in the workings of Hollywood. With a new afterword profiling De Palma ten years after the movie’s devastating flop (and this book’s best-selling publication), Julie Salamon has created a riveting insider’s portrait of an industry where art, talent, ego, and money combine and clash on a monumental scale.

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