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If I were moderating the next Presidential debate, my first question would be:

Who invented the light bulb?

Mr. Trump, you will have 10 seconds in which to respond.

Mr. Biden, you will have 10 minutes in which to fully expand upon your answer.

 
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  1. Any idea of who exactly Biden might have been thinking of?

    • Replies: @res
    @Anon87

    Steve mentioned Lewis Howard Latimer in his original post on this. This comment elaborates.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/biden-a-black-man-invented-the-light-bulb-not-a-white-guy-named-edison/#comment-4141663

    Replies: @Anon87

  2. The fact that this nursing home fugitive and Donald Trump are our two choices for president (I won’t even mention the Libertarian candidate who unironically promotes CRT) shows that the US is not even pretending to be a serious country anymore. Let’s just split it up. Russia can get Alaska back. Japan can get Hawaii. China can get the Pacific NW. Cuba can get south Florida. Mexico can get a retrocession. Canada can take New England. Israel can get NYC.

    • Replies: @Thomas
    @AndrewR

    At this point, India will be fighting China for the PNW (or at least Seattle).

    Replies: @TheJester

    , @Richard B
    @AndrewR


    the US is not even pretending to be a serious country anymore
     
    I'm certainly no Wile E. Coyote super genius. But, to me, while growing up in late 60's as a boy, to early 80's as a young man, it became more and more obvious with each passing year that the USA was just not going to last, exactly because it wasn't a serious country.

    The only thing it seemed to take seriously, aside from making a big pile of cash without ever having to think, the only thing it seemed to really value, was violence. And that violence didn't come out of nowhere.

    The US is properly seen as an extension of European civilization. By the time they began to set up shop in the US, Europe had developed the richest, most sophisticated explanatory culture in history. It had developed the art of civilization, ie; circumnavigating the use of force - better than any other civilization, ever.

    But as we moved westward, the frontier culture of simplification, reductionism, and violence not only took hold, it was seen as a good thing and universalized. And then one more attribute was added to the simplification, reductionism and violence - helplessness.

    Specifically, helplessness before the problems all of that simplification, reductionism and violence had caused. And that's the best word I can think of to describe the USA right now. Helpless. And not just the USA. Since it obviously succeeded in selling this oversimplified mental model back to Europe. Now it's everywhere.

    Once again we're seeing why we shouldn't laugh at the dinosaurs for getting themselves extinct. After all, they lasted a lot longer than we have so far.

  3. Somebody needs to show this to Joe:

    • LOL: Richard B
    • Replies: @syonredux
    @syonredux

    Biden really needs to properly understand the tale of Yakub.....Perhaps he should start with Amiri Baraka's A Black Mass:


    This play is a visceral experience through the use of music and lighting, beginning in a "Jet blackness" accompanied with the "Music of eternal concentration and wisdom" composed by Sun Ra, which represent a prelapsarian state of non-threatening darkness.[5] Baraka inverts the idea that white symbolizes goodness and black symbolizes wickedness, so that the images of beauty and life are associated with blackness.[6] As Jacoub, the protagonist of the play, creates the "White Beast" that will become the ancestor to the white race, this peaceful blackness is soon contrasted with scenes of pandemonium, in which the room is filled with unsettling melodies and the sounds of banging and screeching (provided in the original production by Sun Ra's Myth Science Arkestra).[7] To add to the audience's unease, the actors are not confined to the stage: the "Beast" leaps among the spectators, screaming "White! White! White!" and "Me! Me! Me!"[8]
     

    The play ends on a call to arms against this newly created affront against nature:
     

    "And so Brothers and Sisters, these beasts are still loose in the world. Still, they spit their hideous cries. There are beasts in our world, Brothers and Sisters. There are beasts in our world. Let us find them and slay them. Let us lock them in their caves. Let us declare the holy war. The Jihad. Or we cannot deserve to live. Izm-el-Azam. Izm-el-Azam. Izm-el-Azam."
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Black_Mass


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi98wfZyqpU

    Replies: @anon

    , @Richard B
    @syonredux


    Somebody needs to show this to Joe
     
    Please. Don't encourage him.
  4. Few people know this, but the “fifth Beetle” was actually a black man named Clarence:

  5. Pence is making mistakes by focusing on national securitt slash war spook crap.

    The American people are tired of endless wars in the Middle East…..they want the troops home and the treasure blown abroad reinvested in us, jobs, infrastructure, education etc

    Trump needs to take Carvilles advice as he did in 2016: ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID!

    Talk 1 thing……JOBS JOBS JOBS!!

  6. Parsimony, generality, consilience and predictiveness.

  7. If the original filament contained peanuts, then the answer is simple: George Washington Carver invented the lightbulb.

  8. Joe Biden is supposed to have his “heart in the right place”? Really?

    Why is any White person stabbing the rest of us in the back presumed to be a Good Guy. Why the endless contortions to act like this isn’t malevolent?

    • Replies: @anon
    @RichardTaylor

    This is your society on Judaism

  9. My dream question: “Mr. Biden, what day of the week is it?”

    He’s got a 1 in 7 shot at getting it correct.

    Trump should ask Biden “Joe, how are the grandkids? I mean the ones Hunter’s admitted to.”

  10. It takes a village to invent the lightbulb.

  11. How many Japanese scientists does it take to change a light bulb?

    Three

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29518521

  12. I rather like the idea of all the Anglo “””Enlightenment””” inventions being cooked up by non-Yakubians. Maybe we can focus on the ones made by the Greeks and Romans and not the cosmopolitan interlopers who only wear nationality when useful.

  13. President Harris’s science advisory team:

    • LOL: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Possumman
    @CCZ

    Looks like a SNL skit

  14. Thomas Edison did not invent the lightbulb, he produced it. The same way Daryl Zanuck produced motion pictures, and nobody really remembers who the directors or the screenwriters were, except for film scholars. Nobody “invented” the light bulb, but Thomas Edison produced it, viz he marshaled the appropriate forces and called it into being.

    The Wright Brothers did not “invent” the airplane, they built on existing work, and then solved critical problems related to steering and navigation which had not been previously understood. Nonetheless their original insights were so crucial that it’s not crazy to call them the fathers of flight.

    You know who invented Shakespeare? Kit Marlowe. Or rather, a sort of unintentional semi-random conspiracy consisting of Marlowe, Thomas Kyd, Will Kemp, Robert Armin, Dick Burbage, Robert Greene, Chaucer, Holinshed, and about a dozen others.

    But one thing’s for certain: you know who DIDN’T invent the light bulb, the airplane, or Shakespeare? Africans.

    • Thanks: vhrm
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Is your standard for invention ex nihilo?

    , @Thomas
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    But one thing’s for certain: you know who DIDN’T invent the light bulb, the airplane, or Shakespeare? Africans.
     
    Africans may not have invented the lightbulb, but they most certainly created much of the need for lighting the streets at night. We should give them credit for at least that much.

    Replies: @Neuday

    , @Gordo
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    It was maybe just lightbulb time, like steam engine time or flight time or photography time, everything was coming together so if Swann hadn't invented the lightbulb somebody else would have six months later.

    But 'Shakespeare' was the Earl of Oxford, so there!

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  15. How many Democrats does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Is Bill Clinton counted in that equation?

    , @Mike_from_SGV
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The answer must be zero; how could even one Dem fit inside a light bulb?

    , @International Jew
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The question is, given ten Democrats in a confined space, how many different ways would they have sex with one another?

  16. @JohnnyWalker123
    How many Democrats does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Mike_from_SGV, @International Jew

    Is Bill Clinton counted in that equation?

    • LOL: Gary in Gramercy
  17. I hate to say it but (not really,) Joe Biden’s cognitive decline has rendered him on par to an Adam Sandler character from the 1990s.

    • LOL: Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Kronos

    Adam Sandler was one of the shining stars of the Golden Season of SNL, on the laurels of which the zombified present form coasts.
    I would absolutely love to see an unsparing critique of Biden from Opera Man.
    De Ment Ia! Mama Mia!
    Ukraine cash-a! Inna my socka-a!
    ...
    Iiiiiiidiota sonna! Iiiiiidota sonnnnna!
    So I tell-a, idiota sonna, gotta cracka pipe outsiiiiiide-a strip-a, clubbbb-a,
    WASSSAMAAAAAAATTA
    WASSSAMATTA YU
    WAAASSAAAMAATTAA
    WASSSAMATTTTTAAA YU
    WASSAMATA YUUUUUUUUU
    MATA YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
    IDIOTA SONNA
    IDIOTA SONNNNNNNNNA
    SONNNNNNNNNAAAAAA
    SONNNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAA
    AAAAAAAAAAAAA

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

  18. Who invented modern civilization? Who and what are responsible for making modern life so good?

  19. “My Dream Debate Question: Who Invented the Light Bulb?”

    Of course, because it’s much easier to avoid NOTICING in light of a more important event.

    It has been reported that the White House was not “regularly” testing Trump prior to the September 26th event in the White House Rose Garden. And Trump was obligated to be tested for the virus prior to to the Cleveland debate—and apparently refused to be tested. So the more relevant question is “Is the refusal to inform the public your last negative test the result of a concerted White House effort to not demand contact tracing for those 20+ people who have contracted Covid-19 at that gathering, thus shirking ultimate responsibility?

    More than likely, President Trump was infected with coronavirus for at least a week before he was sent to the hospital. And the reason why the White House will not have the CDC do a formal check is they are deathly concerned patient zero is…DJT.

    Stay cagey, Mr. Sailer!

    • Replies: @anon
    @Corvinus

    President Trump was infected with coronavirus

    No. Exactly the opposite!

    https://babylonbee.com/news/coronavirus-panics-after-testing-positive-for-trump

    , @Che Blutarsky
    @Corvinus

    Why not make a much simpler, more cogent argument that's much quicker to read and conveys the same message, that being, "I'm a r**ard!"

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @John Milton’s Ghost
    @Corvinus

    How sad it must be to go to an alternative blog devoted to understanding issues of race, science, and culture to troll the author for not talking about the President’s illness. You could simply watch CNN all day and remain in your happy place. Are you sad that Jake Tapper and Brian Stelter don’t return your texts and likes? Or maybe you realize that the fringe audience here is one of the last places free speech will exist? When your mediocre overlords take over, and they likely will within a decade, you’ll have a hard time speaking any truth to that Illiberal power.

    Replies: @AndrewR

  20. My question: in your TV market, who is spending more money – Biden or Trump?

    In the Detroit area stations, the Biden campaign is outspending Trump at least ten to one, maybe more.

    How about where you live?

  21. Question for Steve, have you changed your mind since 2017, when you said:

    “No Wall and Trump is toast in 2020.”

    Because it looks like you’re gonna be right, Trump didn’t build the wall, and the polls indicate that he’s toast. But you aren’t saying it anymore.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    >he didn't build the wall
    He did.
    >polls indicate
    https://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/248/245/cd9.png

  22. @JohnnyWalker123
    How many Democrats does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Mike_from_SGV, @International Jew

    The answer must be zero; how could even one Dem fit inside a light bulb?

  23. It should have been one of the biased, setup questions tonight. Then Kamala Harris could have said she was born a poor black child and her family didn’t have any light bulbs in the house.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Buzz Mohawk

    That would have been Joe Biden's line ("I was born a poor black child"). As he's told us, he went to Delaware State, a well-known HBCU.

  24. t says:

    OT: A mini riot by Hasidics in Brooklyn.

    Will the media

    A) blow this way out of proportion because it looks like an actual example of Trump supports behaving badly

    or

    B) Hush it of because they want people to think that Trump is Hitler and drawing attention to his Jewish supporters undermines that narrative.

  25. @Corvinus
    "My Dream Debate Question: Who Invented the Light Bulb?"

    Of course, because it's much easier to avoid NOTICING in light of a more important event.

    It has been reported that the White House was not "regularly" testing Trump prior to the September 26th event in the White House Rose Garden. And Trump was obligated to be tested for the virus prior to to the Cleveland debate—and apparently refused to be tested. So the more relevant question is "Is the refusal to inform the public your last negative test the result of a concerted White House effort to not demand contact tracing for those 20+ people who have contracted Covid-19 at that gathering, thus shirking ultimate responsibility?

    More than likely, President Trump was infected with coronavirus for at least a week before he was sent to the hospital. And the reason why the White House will not have the CDC do a formal check is they are deathly concerned patient zero is...DJT.

    Stay cagey, Mr. Sailer!

    Replies: @anon, @Che Blutarsky, @John Milton’s Ghost

    President Trump was infected with coronavirus

    No. Exactly the opposite!

    https://babylonbee.com/news/coronavirus-panics-after-testing-positive-for-trump

  26. Comments are way backed up tonight, so I’ve no way of telling if this has been posted, but apparently the large fly which landed on Pence’s head is the #1 topic nationwide tonight.

    Bad luck follows this administration around like an evil spectre.

    The administration is cursed, the nation is cursed. It’s been terminal since Hart-Celler. The curse arrived generations before. Without that subversion this nation would have found a way to heal its wounds ages ago.

    But the curse we invited never rests, and can only be happy when everyone else is at one another’s throats.

    • Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Pence looks like he just escaped from the Medical School dissection table, I've never seen a more cadaverous looking person.

    Replies: @throtler

    , @Neuday
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    The Most Numinous Negro did battles with flies back in 2013, including one that landed on his face during a State dinner. Was that not a curse?

    Padma Parvati Lakshmi Vaidynathan was born in Madras (now Chennai), India, into a middle-class Tamil family.

    Padma Laskshmi should be more concerned with flies landing on the politicians of her own country, which is certainly more common.

  27. Great thought Steve!

    Anything to get Joe rambling about something he knows nothing about, which is a lot.

    Though in the first debate Trump tried the aggro psyop tactic to break Joe down. He overplayed it and he needs to let Joe try to respond or just become befuddled.

    Of course Trump will likely change his approach next time. Yes, bring up crazy stuff Joe “advocates” by signing up to every AOC Green New Deal Marxist cliche floated.

    Joe won’t remember, deny it, or just ramble on about the endangered sea turtles. Maybe even the late lamented Corn Pop.

    Next debate drinking game: take a shot every time Corn Pop is referenced. or when Joe says “come on, man”

  28. Who invented the light bulb?

    My dream question would be:

    Every Democratic presidential candidate since Michael Dukakis has received the official endorsement of the Communist Party USA, the only political organization in US history to be outlawed by an act of congress due to the espionage it facilitated against the US on behalf of the Soviet Union during the 1930’s, 40’s and 50’s.

    Given that your party has rejected the Socialism of Bernie Sanders during the 2020 primaries, will you renounce any support or endorsement given to you by the Communist Party USA or other affiliated Marxist organizations?

  29. Steve Sailer moderating is about the only way I could ever be persuaded to watch more than five minutes of any presidential debate.

    • Agree: Kylie, Adam Smith
  30. @JohnnyWalker123
    How many Democrats does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Mike_from_SGV, @International Jew

    The question is, given ten Democrats in a confined space, how many different ways would they have sex with one another?

    • LOL: Corn
  31. @Corvinus
    "My Dream Debate Question: Who Invented the Light Bulb?"

    Of course, because it's much easier to avoid NOTICING in light of a more important event.

    It has been reported that the White House was not "regularly" testing Trump prior to the September 26th event in the White House Rose Garden. And Trump was obligated to be tested for the virus prior to to the Cleveland debate—and apparently refused to be tested. So the more relevant question is "Is the refusal to inform the public your last negative test the result of a concerted White House effort to not demand contact tracing for those 20+ people who have contracted Covid-19 at that gathering, thus shirking ultimate responsibility?

    More than likely, President Trump was infected with coronavirus for at least a week before he was sent to the hospital. And the reason why the White House will not have the CDC do a formal check is they are deathly concerned patient zero is...DJT.

    Stay cagey, Mr. Sailer!

    Replies: @anon, @Che Blutarsky, @John Milton’s Ghost

    Why not make a much simpler, more cogent argument that’s much quicker to read and conveys the same message, that being, “I’m a r**ard!”

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Che Blutarsky

    "Why not make a much simpler, more cogent argument that’s much quicker to read and conveys the same message, that being, “I’m a r**ard!”"

    You mean something you already have cornered the market on? Now, why would I want to sink to your level of cheap entertainment?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

  32. Moderator: Gentlemen. President Trump proposed a fiscal year 2021, US Government on-budget of roughly 4.8 trillion dollars. If you could submit a revised figure, what would it be?

    Trump: Our great budget is cut to the bone, but still funds our priorities. I wouldn’t change a thing.

    Biden: The president’s budget is a catastrophe for millions of vulnerable Americans. I’d demand at least 5T.

    (Well, I can see why they’re at each other’s throats. By the way, the correct answer is $85B, no off.)

  33. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Thomas Edison did not invent the lightbulb, he produced it. The same way Daryl Zanuck produced motion pictures, and nobody really remembers who the directors or the screenwriters were, except for film scholars. Nobody "invented" the light bulb, but Thomas Edison produced it, viz he marshaled the appropriate forces and called it into being.

    The Wright Brothers did not "invent" the airplane, they built on existing work, and then solved critical problems related to steering and navigation which had not been previously understood. Nonetheless their original insights were so crucial that it's not crazy to call them the fathers of flight.

    You know who invented Shakespeare? Kit Marlowe. Or rather, a sort of unintentional semi-random conspiracy consisting of Marlowe, Thomas Kyd, Will Kemp, Robert Armin, Dick Burbage, Robert Greene, Chaucer, Holinshed, and about a dozen others.

    But one thing's for certain: you know who DIDN'T invent the light bulb, the airplane, or Shakespeare? Africans.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Thomas, @Gordo

    Is your standard for invention ex nihilo?

  34. @Anonymous
    Question for Steve, have you changed your mind since 2017, when you said:

    "No Wall and Trump is toast in 2020."

    Because it looks like you're gonna be right, Trump didn't build the wall, and the polls indicate that he's toast. But you aren't saying it anymore.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    >he didn’t build the wall
    He did.
    >polls indicate

    • LOL: Tusk
  35. @syonredux
    Somebody needs to show this to Joe:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0viDHSASc4

    Replies: @syonredux, @Richard B

    Biden really needs to properly understand the tale of Yakub…..Perhaps he should start with Amiri Baraka’s A Black Mass:

    This play is a visceral experience through the use of music and lighting, beginning in a “Jet blackness” accompanied with the “Music of eternal concentration and wisdom” composed by Sun Ra, which represent a prelapsarian state of non-threatening darkness.[5] Baraka inverts the idea that white symbolizes goodness and black symbolizes wickedness, so that the images of beauty and life are associated with blackness.[6] As Jacoub, the protagonist of the play, creates the “White Beast” that will become the ancestor to the white race, this peaceful blackness is soon contrasted with scenes of pandemonium, in which the room is filled with unsettling melodies and the sounds of banging and screeching (provided in the original production by Sun Ra’s Myth Science Arkestra).[7] To add to the audience’s unease, the actors are not confined to the stage: the “Beast” leaps among the spectators, screaming “White! White! White!” and “Me! Me! Me!”[8]

    The play ends on a call to arms against this newly created affront against nature:

    “And so Brothers and Sisters, these beasts are still loose in the world. Still, they spit their hideous cries. There are beasts in our world, Brothers and Sisters. There are beasts in our world. Let us find them and slay them. Let us lock them in their caves. Let us declare the holy war. The Jihad. Or we cannot deserve to live. Izm-el-Azam. Izm-el-Azam. Izm-el-Azam.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Black_Mass

    • Replies: @anon
    @syonredux

    Biden really needs to properly understand the tale of Yakub

    Why?

    Replies: @tyrone

  36. @syonredux
    @syonredux

    Biden really needs to properly understand the tale of Yakub.....Perhaps he should start with Amiri Baraka's A Black Mass:


    This play is a visceral experience through the use of music and lighting, beginning in a "Jet blackness" accompanied with the "Music of eternal concentration and wisdom" composed by Sun Ra, which represent a prelapsarian state of non-threatening darkness.[5] Baraka inverts the idea that white symbolizes goodness and black symbolizes wickedness, so that the images of beauty and life are associated with blackness.[6] As Jacoub, the protagonist of the play, creates the "White Beast" that will become the ancestor to the white race, this peaceful blackness is soon contrasted with scenes of pandemonium, in which the room is filled with unsettling melodies and the sounds of banging and screeching (provided in the original production by Sun Ra's Myth Science Arkestra).[7] To add to the audience's unease, the actors are not confined to the stage: the "Beast" leaps among the spectators, screaming "White! White! White!" and "Me! Me! Me!"[8]
     

    The play ends on a call to arms against this newly created affront against nature:
     

    "And so Brothers and Sisters, these beasts are still loose in the world. Still, they spit their hideous cries. There are beasts in our world, Brothers and Sisters. There are beasts in our world. Let us find them and slay them. Let us lock them in their caves. Let us declare the holy war. The Jihad. Or we cannot deserve to live. Izm-el-Azam. Izm-el-Azam. Izm-el-Azam."
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Black_Mass


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi98wfZyqpU

    Replies: @anon

    Biden really needs to properly understand the tale of Yakub

    Why?

    • Troll: HammerJack
    • Replies: @tyrone
    @anon

    Because it's about to go mainstream?

    Replies: @anon

  37. It is no longer ok to be glib, Steve. You know very well what you mean by posting this post.

    You either are ok with soft Communism; or you reject it, root and branch. But, some of you guys, whom I have been in contact with, while typing now, for years, seem to be losing your shit.

    You are like Karens to me, these days – I read your responses, for several days…and….blech…you so deserve to go to a re-education camp under a Harris/Biden administration.

    But, we, immigrants, who know how MAGA our country is, lived it to the edge of time, all the time, and, everyone landed on their feet over, and over again. We did better than any race in the USA.

  38. @AndrewR
    The fact that this nursing home fugitive and Donald Trump are our two choices for president (I won't even mention the Libertarian candidate who unironically promotes CRT) shows that the US is not even pretending to be a serious country anymore. Let's just split it up. Russia can get Alaska back. Japan can get Hawaii. China can get the Pacific NW. Cuba can get south Florida. Mexico can get a retrocession. Canada can take New England. Israel can get NYC.

    Replies: @Thomas, @Richard B

    At this point, India will be fighting China for the PNW (or at least Seattle).

    • Replies: @TheJester
    @Thomas

    Are you sure anyone would want Seattle or Portland? The "carrying costs" would be astronomical.

  39. @RichardTaylor
    Joe Biden is supposed to have his "heart in the right place"? Really?

    Why is any White person stabbing the rest of us in the back presumed to be a Good Guy. Why the endless contortions to act like this isn't malevolent?

    Replies: @anon

    This is your society on Judaism

  40. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Thomas Edison did not invent the lightbulb, he produced it. The same way Daryl Zanuck produced motion pictures, and nobody really remembers who the directors or the screenwriters were, except for film scholars. Nobody "invented" the light bulb, but Thomas Edison produced it, viz he marshaled the appropriate forces and called it into being.

    The Wright Brothers did not "invent" the airplane, they built on existing work, and then solved critical problems related to steering and navigation which had not been previously understood. Nonetheless their original insights were so crucial that it's not crazy to call them the fathers of flight.

    You know who invented Shakespeare? Kit Marlowe. Or rather, a sort of unintentional semi-random conspiracy consisting of Marlowe, Thomas Kyd, Will Kemp, Robert Armin, Dick Burbage, Robert Greene, Chaucer, Holinshed, and about a dozen others.

    But one thing's for certain: you know who DIDN'T invent the light bulb, the airplane, or Shakespeare? Africans.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Thomas, @Gordo

    But one thing’s for certain: you know who DIDN’T invent the light bulb, the airplane, or Shakespeare? Africans.

    Africans may not have invented the lightbulb, but they most certainly created much of the need for lighting the streets at night. We should give them credit for at least that much.

    • LOL: Grahamsno(G64), TWS
    • Replies: @Neuday
    @Thomas


    Africans may not have invented the lightbulb, but they most certainly created much of the need for lighting the streets at night. We should give them credit for at least that much.
     
    Frederic Bastiat says "Don't fall for it."
  41. @Kronos
    I hate to say it but (not really,) Joe Biden’s cognitive decline has rendered him on par to an Adam Sandler character from the 1990s.

    https://youtu.be/Ec7rCsNFn30

    https://youtu.be/cu7A8LIzL1o

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Adam Sandler was one of the shining stars of the Golden Season of SNL, on the laurels of which the zombified present form coasts.
    I would absolutely love to see an unsparing critique of Biden from Opera Man.
    De Ment Ia! Mama Mia!
    Ukraine cash-a! Inna my socka-a!

    Iiiiiiidiota sonna! Iiiiiidota sonnnnna!
    So I tell-a, idiota sonna, gotta cracka pipe outsiiiiiide-a strip-a, clubbbb-a,
    WASSSAMAAAAAAATTA
    WASSSAMATTA YU
    WAAASSAAAMAATTAA
    WASSSAMATTTTTAAA YU
    WASSAMATA YUUUUUUUUU
    MATA YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
    IDIOTA SONNA
    IDIOTA SONNNNNNNNNA
    SONNNNNNNNNAAAAAA
    SONNNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAA
    AAAAAAAAAAAAA

    • Thanks: Ron Mexico
    • LOL: Kronos
    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @J.Ross

    I give that an 85: stirring lyrics, with a heartbreaking message about family. But your rhythmic motif suggests that this aria di bravura would be hard to dance to -- unless (to paraphrase Dr. Peter Schickele, the esteemed Very Full Professor at the University of Southern North Dakota at Hoople) one of your legs were shorter than the other.

    Nice shout-out to Rocky and Bullwinkle's alma mater, though.

  42. @Corvinus
    "My Dream Debate Question: Who Invented the Light Bulb?"

    Of course, because it's much easier to avoid NOTICING in light of a more important event.

    It has been reported that the White House was not "regularly" testing Trump prior to the September 26th event in the White House Rose Garden. And Trump was obligated to be tested for the virus prior to to the Cleveland debate—and apparently refused to be tested. So the more relevant question is "Is the refusal to inform the public your last negative test the result of a concerted White House effort to not demand contact tracing for those 20+ people who have contracted Covid-19 at that gathering, thus shirking ultimate responsibility?

    More than likely, President Trump was infected with coronavirus for at least a week before he was sent to the hospital. And the reason why the White House will not have the CDC do a formal check is they are deathly concerned patient zero is...DJT.

    Stay cagey, Mr. Sailer!

    Replies: @anon, @Che Blutarsky, @John Milton’s Ghost

    How sad it must be to go to an alternative blog devoted to understanding issues of race, science, and culture to troll the author for not talking about the President’s illness. You could simply watch CNN all day and remain in your happy place. Are you sad that Jake Tapper and Brian Stelter don’t return your texts and likes? Or maybe you realize that the fringe audience here is one of the last places free speech will exist? When your mediocre overlords take over, and they likely will within a decade, you’ll have a hard time speaking any truth to that Illiberal power.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    Shitposting about how goofy Biden is is fun but it's hard to take Steve seriously when he seldom if ever criticizes Trump and his sycophants. Coulter and other borderline Con Inc personalities might read Sailer but he will never be accepted back into the GOP fold, so one wonders why he so noticeably holds his punches. If anything, he should be exclusively attacking the GOP. Dealing with traitors is always a bigger priority than dealing with a sworn enemy. At least it is for serious people.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @kaganovitch

  43. If you dig down and research into the question of who invented the light bulb, you will find that you cannot really attribute the invention to one person, but there was a gradual process of iteration and development involving a number of people over quite a long period of time.

    In popular history Thomas Edison is giving the credit, because it was his company that commercialized the light bulb and made it well known, but that doesn’t mean that he personally invented the method of blowing glass to shape a light bulb, or even that he invented the type of filament which eventually became commercially successful, or that he personally invented the screw-in base.

    If you ask politicians a question you will always get a political answer. That is an answer which is not necessarily factually true, but one that the politician hopes will be divisive.

    Even Edward Jenner, whose story is extremely well known, did not invent the smallpox vaccination out of nothing as the process of variolation was already known. However it was he that made it a big thing.

    • Replies: @DCThrowback
    @Jonathan Mason

    Never complain, never explain.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFwHQYDqf6c

  44. Sir Joseph Swan.

    Sir Joseph Wilson Swan FRS (31 October 1828 – 27 May 1914) was an English physicist, chemist, and inventor. He is known as an independent early developer of a successful incandescent light bulb, and is the person responsible for developing and supplying the first incandescent lights used to illuminate homes and public buildings, including the Savoy Theatre, London, in 1881.[1][2]

    Yes, he was a White Swan.

    Also, Mr Steve, stop peddling this nonsense about Thomas Edison being black !

  45. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Thomas Edison did not invent the lightbulb, he produced it. The same way Daryl Zanuck produced motion pictures, and nobody really remembers who the directors or the screenwriters were, except for film scholars. Nobody "invented" the light bulb, but Thomas Edison produced it, viz he marshaled the appropriate forces and called it into being.

    The Wright Brothers did not "invent" the airplane, they built on existing work, and then solved critical problems related to steering and navigation which had not been previously understood. Nonetheless their original insights were so crucial that it's not crazy to call them the fathers of flight.

    You know who invented Shakespeare? Kit Marlowe. Or rather, a sort of unintentional semi-random conspiracy consisting of Marlowe, Thomas Kyd, Will Kemp, Robert Armin, Dick Burbage, Robert Greene, Chaucer, Holinshed, and about a dozen others.

    But one thing's for certain: you know who DIDN'T invent the light bulb, the airplane, or Shakespeare? Africans.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Thomas, @Gordo

    It was maybe just lightbulb time, like steam engine time or flight time or photography time, everything was coming together so if Swann hadn’t invented the lightbulb somebody else would have six months later.

    But ‘Shakespeare’ was the Earl of Oxford, so there!

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Gordo

    "It was maybe just lightbulb time... everything was coming together"

    Totally agree. Every so often humanity just gets a groove on.

    "But Shakespeare was the Earl of Oxford"

    Nope, not a chance. These claims are so illiterate they're not even wrong.

  46. @Buzz Mohawk
    It should have been one of the biased, setup questions tonight. Then Kamala Harris could have said she was born a poor black child and her family didn't have any light bulbs in the house.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NeS4ueaU6w

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    That would have been Joe Biden’s line (“I was born a poor black child”). As he’s told us, he went to Delaware State, a well-known HBCU.

  47. @J.Ross
    @Kronos

    Adam Sandler was one of the shining stars of the Golden Season of SNL, on the laurels of which the zombified present form coasts.
    I would absolutely love to see an unsparing critique of Biden from Opera Man.
    De Ment Ia! Mama Mia!
    Ukraine cash-a! Inna my socka-a!
    ...
    Iiiiiiidiota sonna! Iiiiiidota sonnnnna!
    So I tell-a, idiota sonna, gotta cracka pipe outsiiiiiide-a strip-a, clubbbb-a,
    WASSSAMAAAAAAATTA
    WASSSAMATTA YU
    WAAASSAAAMAATTAA
    WASSSAMATTTTTAAA YU
    WASSAMATA YUUUUUUUUU
    MATA YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
    IDIOTA SONNA
    IDIOTA SONNNNNNNNNA
    SONNNNNNNNNAAAAAA
    SONNNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAA
    AAAAAAAAAAAAA

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    I give that an 85: stirring lyrics, with a heartbreaking message about family. But your rhythmic motif suggests that this aria di bravura would be hard to dance to — unless (to paraphrase Dr. Peter Schickele, the esteemed Very Full Professor at the University of Southern North Dakota at Hoople) one of your legs were shorter than the other.

    Nice shout-out to Rocky and Bullwinkle’s alma mater, though.

  48. Joe Biden says a black man invented the light bulb, and given sufficient time to expand on that, you will learn Joe Biden was that black man, and he did it in his spare time while graduating at the top of his class with a double major from historically black college.

    If you too want to be black, vote for Joe, because if you don’t vote for Joe, then you aren’t black.

    • Replies: @Joe Joe
    @The Alarmist

    Biden's phrase was "...you AIN"T black". Why do Dems get away with pandering to blacks by using "negro dialect"? He also said to blacks that Trump was "...gonna put Y'ALL back in chains". Hellary did the same kind of thing in 2016!!!

  49. @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    Comments are way backed up tonight, so I've no way of telling if this has been posted, but apparently the large fly which landed on Pence's head is the #1 topic nationwide tonight.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1314033621557182464

    Bad luck follows this administration around like an evil spectre.

    The administration is cursed, the nation is cursed. It's been terminal since Hart-Celler. The curse arrived generations before. Without that subversion this nation would have found a way to heal its wounds ages ago.

    But the curse we invited never rests, and can only be happy when everyone else is at one another's throats.

    Replies: @Grahamsno(G64), @Neuday

    Pence looks like he just escaped from the Medical School dissection table, I’ve never seen a more cadaverous looking person.

    • Replies: @throtler
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    Try Joe Biden.

  50. @Gordo
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    It was maybe just lightbulb time, like steam engine time or flight time or photography time, everything was coming together so if Swann hadn't invented the lightbulb somebody else would have six months later.

    But 'Shakespeare' was the Earl of Oxford, so there!

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “It was maybe just lightbulb time… everything was coming together”

    Totally agree. Every so often humanity just gets a groove on.

    “But Shakespeare was the Earl of Oxford”

    Nope, not a chance. These claims are so illiterate they’re not even wrong.

  51. @anon
    @syonredux

    Biden really needs to properly understand the tale of Yakub

    Why?

    Replies: @tyrone

    Because it’s about to go mainstream?

    • Replies: @anon
    @tyrone

    Because it’s about to go mainstream?

    Probably not gonna happen, but even if it did: what does that have to do with Biden?

  52. Alex Trebek:

    “And its the Daily Double. In 1838, Belgian lithographer Marcellin Jobard brought this to the world.”

    “Yes, contestant Biden. You are first on the buzzer”

    Joe Biden:

    “Was it Belgian waffles?”

    Alex Trebek:

    “Nope, sorry, over to you Mr. Trump.”

    Donald Trump:

    “What is a communist Brussels sprout?”

    Alex Trebek:

    “”No, sorry Don, that is not the right question.”

    Alex Trebek:

    “We have one more contestant. Want to take a shot at it, Sailer?”

    Steve Sailer:

    “Who first invented an incandescent light bulb with a vacuum atmosphere using a carbon filament.”

    Alex Trebek:

    ” I will accept that, you nerdy, smartass know-it-all, but you could just have said “light bulb”.

  53. @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    Comments are way backed up tonight, so I've no way of telling if this has been posted, but apparently the large fly which landed on Pence's head is the #1 topic nationwide tonight.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1314033621557182464

    Bad luck follows this administration around like an evil spectre.

    The administration is cursed, the nation is cursed. It's been terminal since Hart-Celler. The curse arrived generations before. Without that subversion this nation would have found a way to heal its wounds ages ago.

    But the curse we invited never rests, and can only be happy when everyone else is at one another's throats.

    Replies: @Grahamsno(G64), @Neuday

    The Most Numinous Negro did battles with flies back in 2013, including one that landed on his face during a State dinner. Was that not a curse?

    Padma Parvati Lakshmi Vaidynathan was born in Madras (now Chennai), India, into a middle-class Tamil family.

    Padma Laskshmi should be more concerned with flies landing on the politicians of her own country, which is certainly more common.

    • Agree: throtler
  54. Speaking of questions, has either debate had a single question on immigration?

  55. @Thomas
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    But one thing’s for certain: you know who DIDN’T invent the light bulb, the airplane, or Shakespeare? Africans.
     
    Africans may not have invented the lightbulb, but they most certainly created much of the need for lighting the streets at night. We should give them credit for at least that much.

    Replies: @Neuday

    Africans may not have invented the lightbulb, but they most certainly created much of the need for lighting the streets at night. We should give them credit for at least that much.

    Frederic Bastiat says “Don’t fall for it.”

  56. @Thomas
    @AndrewR

    At this point, India will be fighting China for the PNW (or at least Seattle).

    Replies: @TheJester

    Are you sure anyone would want Seattle or Portland? The “carrying costs” would be astronomical.

  57. @CCZ
    President Harris's science advisory team:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9SiRNibD14

    Replies: @Possumman

    Looks like a SNL skit

  58. It appears that Uncle Fester has suddenly had a lightbulb moment.

  59. @Jonathan Mason
    If you dig down and research into the question of who invented the light bulb, you will find that you cannot really attribute the invention to one person, but there was a gradual process of iteration and development involving a number of people over quite a long period of time.

    In popular history Thomas Edison is giving the credit, because it was his company that commercialized the light bulb and made it well known, but that doesn't mean that he personally invented the method of blowing glass to shape a light bulb, or even that he invented the type of filament which eventually became commercially successful, or that he personally invented the screw-in base.

    If you ask politicians a question you will always get a political answer. That is an answer which is not necessarily factually true, but one that the politician hopes will be divisive.

    Even Edward Jenner, whose story is extremely well known, did not invent the smallpox vaccination out of nothing as the process of variolation was already known. However it was he that made it a big thing.

    Replies: @DCThrowback

    Never complain, never explain.

  60. @Anon87
    Any idea of who exactly Biden might have been thinking of?

    Replies: @res

    Steve mentioned Lewis Howard Latimer in his original post on this. This comment elaborates.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/biden-a-black-man-invented-the-light-bulb-not-a-white-guy-named-edison/#comment-4141663

    • Replies: @Anon87
    @res

    Thank you. It is hard to keep track of all the content, especially comments, so it is appreciated.

    Any tenuous claim becomes fact. "This clerk signed off on the ammo purchase for the raid.....he killed Bin Laden!!!!"

  61. There are several old, long, detailed books about the early history of electric lighting in which Latimer is not even mentioned. Some might say that’s because the authors were racist racists who racistly overlooked people of color, but it’s much more likely that Latimer simply wasn’t among the hundred-or-so most important contributors to the technology.

  62. @John Milton’s Ghost
    @Corvinus

    How sad it must be to go to an alternative blog devoted to understanding issues of race, science, and culture to troll the author for not talking about the President’s illness. You could simply watch CNN all day and remain in your happy place. Are you sad that Jake Tapper and Brian Stelter don’t return your texts and likes? Or maybe you realize that the fringe audience here is one of the last places free speech will exist? When your mediocre overlords take over, and they likely will within a decade, you’ll have a hard time speaking any truth to that Illiberal power.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Shitposting about how goofy Biden is is fun but it’s hard to take Steve seriously when he seldom if ever criticizes Trump and his sycophants. Coulter and other borderline Con Inc personalities might read Sailer but he will never be accepted back into the GOP fold, so one wonders why he so noticeably holds his punches. If anything, he should be exclusively attacking the GOP. Dealing with traitors is always a bigger priority than dealing with a sworn enemy. At least it is for serious people.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @AndrewR

    "but it’s hard to take Steve seriously when he seldom if ever criticizes Trump and his sycophants."

    EXACTLY!

    , @kaganovitch
    @AndrewR

    If anything, he should be exclusively attacking the GOP. Dealing with traitors is always a bigger priority than dealing with a sworn enemy. At least it is for serious people.

    Steve, like another West coast guy with a euphonious ,first and last name that begin with the same letter, has a penchant to invest in under priced resources. So when the entire Establishment/Deep state is invested heavily in Trump criticism, the theory of "Moneyopinion" would tell you 'Don't try to compete on Orange man baddism'.

    He -poor chap- doesn't realize that eliminating the Trotskyist deviationist wreckers and saboteurs is much more important for "serious people" like Koba than advancing the ideal of Socialism. I'm starting to wonder if he may not be a saboteur himself. At the very least an 'objective enemy of the Revolution'.

  63. @tyrone
    @anon

    Because it's about to go mainstream?

    Replies: @anon

    Because it’s about to go mainstream?

    Probably not gonna happen, but even if it did: what does that have to do with Biden?

  64. @AndrewR
    The fact that this nursing home fugitive and Donald Trump are our two choices for president (I won't even mention the Libertarian candidate who unironically promotes CRT) shows that the US is not even pretending to be a serious country anymore. Let's just split it up. Russia can get Alaska back. Japan can get Hawaii. China can get the Pacific NW. Cuba can get south Florida. Mexico can get a retrocession. Canada can take New England. Israel can get NYC.

    Replies: @Thomas, @Richard B

    the US is not even pretending to be a serious country anymore

    I’m certainly no Wile E. Coyote super genius. But, to me, while growing up in late 60’s as a boy, to early 80’s as a young man, it became more and more obvious with each passing year that the USA was just not going to last, exactly because it wasn’t a serious country.

    The only thing it seemed to take seriously, aside from making a big pile of cash without ever having to think, the only thing it seemed to really value, was violence. And that violence didn’t come out of nowhere.

    The US is properly seen as an extension of European civilization. By the time they began to set up shop in the US, Europe had developed the richest, most sophisticated explanatory culture in history. It had developed the art of civilization, ie; circumnavigating the use of force – better than any other civilization, ever.

    But as we moved westward, the frontier culture of simplification, reductionism, and violence not only took hold, it was seen as a good thing and universalized. And then one more attribute was added to the simplification, reductionism and violence – helplessness.

    Specifically, helplessness before the problems all of that simplification, reductionism and violence had caused. And that’s the best word I can think of to describe the USA right now. Helpless. And not just the USA. Since it obviously succeeded in selling this oversimplified mental model back to Europe. Now it’s everywhere.

    Once again we’re seeing why we shouldn’t laugh at the dinosaurs for getting themselves extinct. After all, they lasted a lot longer than we have so far.

  65. @syonredux
    Somebody needs to show this to Joe:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0viDHSASc4

    Replies: @syonredux, @Richard B

    Somebody needs to show this to Joe

    Please. Don’t encourage him.

  66. @Che Blutarsky
    @Corvinus

    Why not make a much simpler, more cogent argument that's much quicker to read and conveys the same message, that being, "I'm a r**ard!"

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Why not make a much simpler, more cogent argument that’s much quicker to read and conveys the same message, that being, “I’m a r**ard!””

    You mean something you already have cornered the market on? Now, why would I want to sink to your level of cheap entertainment?

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Corvinus

    Oh yeah, the jerk store called and they're running out of you.

  67. @AndrewR
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    Shitposting about how goofy Biden is is fun but it's hard to take Steve seriously when he seldom if ever criticizes Trump and his sycophants. Coulter and other borderline Con Inc personalities might read Sailer but he will never be accepted back into the GOP fold, so one wonders why he so noticeably holds his punches. If anything, he should be exclusively attacking the GOP. Dealing with traitors is always a bigger priority than dealing with a sworn enemy. At least it is for serious people.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @kaganovitch

    “but it’s hard to take Steve seriously when he seldom if ever criticizes Trump and his sycophants.”

    EXACTLY!

  68. @res
    @Anon87

    Steve mentioned Lewis Howard Latimer in his original post on this. This comment elaborates.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/biden-a-black-man-invented-the-light-bulb-not-a-white-guy-named-edison/#comment-4141663

    Replies: @Anon87

    Thank you. It is hard to keep track of all the content, especially comments, so it is appreciated.

    Any tenuous claim becomes fact. “This clerk signed off on the ammo purchase for the raid…..he killed Bin Laden!!!!”

  69. @AndrewR
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    Shitposting about how goofy Biden is is fun but it's hard to take Steve seriously when he seldom if ever criticizes Trump and his sycophants. Coulter and other borderline Con Inc personalities might read Sailer but he will never be accepted back into the GOP fold, so one wonders why he so noticeably holds his punches. If anything, he should be exclusively attacking the GOP. Dealing with traitors is always a bigger priority than dealing with a sworn enemy. At least it is for serious people.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @kaganovitch

    If anything, he should be exclusively attacking the GOP. Dealing with traitors is always a bigger priority than dealing with a sworn enemy. At least it is for serious people.

    Steve, like another West coast guy with a euphonious ,first and last name that begin with the same letter, has a penchant to invest in under priced resources. So when the entire Establishment/Deep state is invested heavily in Trump criticism, the theory of “Moneyopinion” would tell you ‘Don’t try to compete on Orange man baddism’.

    He -poor chap- doesn’t realize that eliminating the Trotskyist deviationist wreckers and saboteurs is much more important for “serious people” like Koba than advancing the ideal of Socialism. I’m starting to wonder if he may not be a saboteur himself. At the very least an ‘objective enemy of the Revolution’.

  70. @Grahamsno(G64)
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Pence looks like he just escaped from the Medical School dissection table, I've never seen a more cadaverous looking person.

    Replies: @throtler

    Try Joe Biden.

  71. @Corvinus
    @Che Blutarsky

    "Why not make a much simpler, more cogent argument that’s much quicker to read and conveys the same message, that being, “I’m a r**ard!”"

    You mean something you already have cornered the market on? Now, why would I want to sink to your level of cheap entertainment?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

    Oh yeah, the jerk store called and they’re running out of you.

  72. • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1315015849183412224

  73. @The Alarmist
    Joe Biden says a black man invented the light bulb, and given sufficient time to expand on that, you will learn Joe Biden was that black man, and he did it in his spare time while graduating at the top of his class with a double major from historically black college.

    If you too want to be black, vote for Joe, because if you don't vote for Joe, then you aren't black.

    Replies: @Joe Joe

    Biden’s phrase was “…you AIN”T black”. Why do Dems get away with pandering to blacks by using “negro dialect”? He also said to blacks that Trump was “…gonna put Y’ALL back in chains”. Hellary did the same kind of thing in 2016!!!

  74. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/ArthurSchwartz/status/1314936688771321857

    Replies: @MEH 0910

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