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https://twitter.com/AmirSariaslan/status/952540556869226496

At one clinic in Sweden, the number of referred cases of “gender dysphoria” (being unhappy about what sex you are) among children exploded from 22 in 2013 to 197 in 2016.

How much of this explosion in reported cases of child gender dysphoria is due to Munchausen’s-syndrome-by-proxy? As you may recall, I pointed out in the spring of 2013 that the New York Times appeared to be planning to make transgenderism the Next Big Crusade after gay marriage.

Or could it be real and due to some environmental cause such as as a new chemical? But why isn’t anybody interested in searching out a novel pollutant?

There’s a quite strong correlation between being on the autism spectrum and transgenderism. The reported number of cases of autism soared in recent decades. But of course that could be due to the (weak form) Sapir-Whorf hypothesis that having a word for something makes it easier for humans to notice it. The word “autism” exploded in popularity in the 1990s and now we have more cases of autism and its correlates such as gender dysphoria and transgenderism.

On the other hand, perhaps the arrow of causation goes in the opposite direction. It could be that Something Has Changed. For example, what if there is some new pollutant or parasite in the environment in recent years that is screwing with the brains and/or hormones of young people? I don’t have any evidence that there is, but it seems like a possibility that we at least ought to entertain.

 
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  1. Mostly crazy mothers.

    There was a case in England last year in which a 6 year-old boy was being sent to school in a dress.

    His father was given custody and within hours the whole situation was resolved. The kid was wearing boys’ clothes and playing football.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Hopefully the mother was wearing a different set of clothes too after this incident ... the kind that have the sleeves that tie together.
    , @Jake
    Ideas have consequences. Feminism's consequences include an epidemic of divorce and remarriage, a very low birthrate, gay sex romanticized and then virtually deified, and, in the final stage, an epidemic of tranniness that will usher in a Pederasty culture that reigns supreme.
    , @Dumbo
    I used to think that it was mostly single or divorced mothers, as (I thought) most self-respecting fathers wouldn't put up with their kids "changing sex". But then:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/24673/entire-family-transgender-amanda-prestigiacomo

    https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2017/08/10/parents-pimp-8-year-old-boy-as-drag-queen-lactatia/
    , @carol
    Parents used to socialize their children. I certainly would have preferred to be a boy, when I was 4, probably because I had two older very adventurous brothers who seemed to have all the fun. Who wouldn't prefer their freedom?

    But my mother finally got me into a dress by the time I started first grade. I never made a terribly great female, either, but would have been worse as a male. You just gotta make that assessment and choose.
    , @Neoconned
    Steve your term for this "World War T" makes me fall over laughing...
    , @Anon
    I am afraid a significant amount of divorced mothers cross-dressing their sons is their way of using the poor kid to get revenge on an ex-husband, and as a way to torment their ex. Sometimes narcissistic mothers do it out of amused malice. Narcissists love to play with people like they're toys and don't care if their own kids are destroyed.

    Sadists, however, do get a kick out of tormenting their kids, but in this day and age, the parents can be sent to jail for physical harm. They avoid that by inflicting massive psychological damage on their offspring instead. Dressing a son like a tranny and sending that kid to school makes it almost 100% certain that the poor kid will be beaten up by the other boys. It's actually intentional children abuse by proxy, a method that gets sadistic and criminal parents off the hook legally while still leaving them able to enjoy their own kid's savage beating.
    , @Hhsiii
    Association or American?
    , @ben tillman

    Mostly crazy mothers.

    There was a case in England last year in which a 6 year-old boy was being sent to school in a dress.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4_eSW6D6sc
  2. …what if there is some new pollutant or parasite in the environment in recent years that is screwing with the brains and/or hormones of young people?

    It may not be that, exactly. It may be the overwhelming prevalence now of electronic distractions, rapid digital editing, fast, jumpy music. Smart phones, computers and big screens channeling attacks on peace-of-mind and the ability to contemplate.

    Every new human now grows from infancy inside a barrage of video and sound, the likes of which nobody ever in history did before.

    If you believe that human outcomes are 50/50% nature/nurture, then you must wonder how all this new crap effects the outcomes for at least some new humans.

    Quite simply, what we now call “tech” is driving a significant percentage of our kids crazy.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation? - The Atlantic
    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/has-the-smartphone-destroyed-a-generation/534198/
    “We didn’t have a choice to know any life without iPads or iPhones. I think we like our phones more than we like actual people. ... The Atlantic Daily
    , @Bill
    Not just tech. Empty suburbs. Wildly unstable social groups and absence of family courtesy of "high labor mobility." Absent and absent even when present parents. There's no need to go for chemicals as an explanation.
    , @Rod1963
    A lot of tech is toxic to children still in the developmental stage and they should not be exposed to it. Maybe after 12 or so, even then they must stay away from Social Media because it's designed to get children and even hooked on it like a drug. Zuckerberg's chief engineer all but admitted it.

    Funny story, there is a Montessori school in Silicon Valley that is loaded with the kids of the digital elite. Guess what they aren't allowed to have any electronic devices.

    In terms of studies, they are out there and they point to very negative consequences for children using it. Amazon has plenty of books on it. "Idisorder" is just one of many.
    , @John Mansfield
    "I was born in a house with the television always on."&mash;Talking Heads, "Love for Sale"
  3. …what if there is some new pollutant or parasite in the environment in recent years that is screwing with the brains and/or hormones of young people?

    It may not be that, exactly. It may be the overwhelming prevalence now of electronic distractions, rapid digital editing, fast, jumpy music. Smart phones, computers and big screens channeling attacks on peace-of-mind and the ability to contemplate.

    Every new human now grows from infancy inside a barrage of video and sound, the likes of which nobody ever in history did before.

    If you believe that human outcomes are 50/50% nature/nurture, then you must wonder how all this new crap effects the outcomes for at least some new humans.

    Quite simply, what we now call “tech” may be driving a significant percentage of our kids crazy.

    • Replies: @Jake
    I think you may be on to something major.
    , @Almost Missouri
    Yes, and that doesn't even include the still not really defined effect of the constant, high-frequency electromagnetic radiation that almost everyone grows up bathed in now.

    Besides the cell phone snug against your pelvis, almost every living space in the first world is swathed in multiple overlapping wifi fields. And then there are the various other new forms of electromagnetic radiation that you are exposed to but you have no way to detect.

    The trillion dollar comms industry has a vested interest in your just accepting that all of that is fine and dandy. Occasionally (usually in Europe) a medical study crops up saying, hey maybe there is problem here, before it is buried under an industry-sponsored full spectrum attack.

    Maybe all of that stuff really is harmless, but good luck getting an objective appraisal.
  4. I think it is both a pollutant and a parasite, it is commonly referred to as liberalism. Which unfortunately is not really liberal in the freedom or economic sense.

    • Agree: Kylie, dfordoom, Daniel H
  5. The statistic behind these statistics may be the number of women who really wanted a little girl but the stork brought a boy. Boys are not nearly as much fun for a woman to raise in terms of dressing them or styling their hair. Seems shallow, I know, though neutering is a slight improvement over infanticide.

    Come to think of it this may eventually become a solution for problematic relationships with adult males…

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Miss Marple, My daughter presented a paper on the sexualization of preteen girls by their mothers who want to live their lives again through their daughters. Make up, heels, adult under garments, jewelry, all age inappropriate. So, I think you are on to something.
    , @Big Bill
    A hundred years ago, middle class white women we free to dress (decorate) infants and toddlers as they saw fit, even coiffing their hair in long ringlets. My grandfather looked like the perfect girl in his christening gown and golden curls.

    "Short pants" on boys were worn well into childhood. For a young boy in that era it was a rite of passage into the masculine world to receive his first pair of "long pants".

    It has always been difficult for women to surrender their darling baby boys to the society of men.
    , @Anon
    Most people are familiar with men who get turned on by women's sexy clothing items as a sexual fetish. But the public doesn't really understand the full psychological dimensions of women who have a sexual fetish for women's clothing. Most men just look at women who dress like prostitutes and think, oh, wow, that's cool, that's just great, and all analysis stops right there as male synapses fry.

    But nearly everyone feels uneasy when these women start dressing their very young daughters like skanks. People can tell there's something wrong, but they can't pin it down. But it's just a mother who who has cunningly figured out a way to indulge in her sexual fetish by dressing a daughter like a prostitute. The mother gets sexually excited by seeing these clothing items on her daughter, and the stupid public has absolutely no idea about the mother's motives.

    A good example is Patty Ramsey and her daughter JonBenet.
    , @Alden
    Back in the bad old days, male homosexuality was considered to be a bad thing. Most psychiatrists and psychologists blamed the Mothers for dressing the boys in girls clothes and keeping their hair long until they were ready for school.

    The other factor was blaming the mother for being dominant. Right up to 1970 that was the consensus as to the cause of homosexuality among the “experts”

    Blame the mother blame the mother.

    , @Anonymous
    There are some feminists who are quite open about their desire not to have a male child.

    These people often have a binary and extremely moralistic view of Oppressor and Oppressed. They may actually prefer that their children be 'oppressed' -- it's more edifying in some ways than being the 'oppressor'.

    If your sub-culture celebrates the downtrodden outsider it's actually kind of a downer when you have a healthy, straight, successful child -- that isn't what mommy wants at all.

    It's kooky, but there really are people like this out there. Probably at least a 100 odd in Sweden.
    , @Mr. Blank
    It’s very hard to ignore that in nearly every instance of young children with “gender dysphoria” that I have witnessed, either in person or on some stupid television show, the mother is extremely domineering. The father, if he plays any role whatsoever in the child’s life, is always slight and passive, allowing everyone else in his life to boss him around.
  6. Mostly social normalization of transgenderism+adolescent attention seeking leading borderline cases to identify with being “trans” instead of living normal lives. Similarly, I’ve seen data showing that, as homosexuality was accepted by society, the rate of homosexuality did not increase (much,) but the rate of bisexuality exploded. Again, borderline cases trying to advantageously position themselves in the new paradigm .

    The “Flight From White” is a similar phenomenon. Whites used to hide racial impurities in their bloodline. Now, every Tom, Dick, and Harry is trying to prove that they’re 1/16th Native American/Negro or whatever so as to gain moral authority in the new order. A popular”Anti-SJW” liberal fellow named Sargon has recently been called out on it by the Alt Right (for the record: his parents are white as the driven snow.)

    • Replies: @jimmyriddle
    If you mean Carl Benjamin, AKA Sargon of Akkad, his grandfather is West Indian.
    , @guest
    I can buy that we are experiencing Flight from Lifelong Exclusive Heterosexuality and Flight from Clearly Demarcated Gender Dimorphism.
  7. The first sex change operations were done in Denmark. Switched on Bach, the he to she Wendy Carlos that did this album was the first self-victim of Denmark’s chopping block that I heard of. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Switched+on+Bach&search=Search

    Bach done w synthesizers.

    • Replies: @jamie b.
    Loved Switched on Bach as a kid (on 8-track). Also the A clockwork Orange soundtrack. I was completely baffled by the awful Tron soundtrack, and still wonder if that wasn't what ended his/her career (beyond some interesting but obscure experimental stuff).
  8. The blogger Ace Of Spades noticed this, and said it reminded him of how, every tume a new Iron Man movie comes out, and they spend millions of dollars promoting it, you suddenly see a bunch more kids wanting to dress up as Iron Man.

  9. With regard to autism diagnoses soaring, there’s also an incentive: an official diagnosis of autism grants access to services and supports in grade school that a struggling “weird kid” wouldn’t qualify for.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    Yes, autism is basically an industry at this point and various special education services take up a huge portion of education funding. 11 billion dollars of the 68 billion dollars allotted for federal education spending in 2016 went to special ed....The percent of the budget going to special ed at local levels is no doubt even higher.

    A brave conservative politician would bring this up.
    , @Anonymous
    Bingo. That "autistic" schoolkids get extra time to complete examinations should give the game away.
    , @Daniel H
    Just gotta get a "dyslexia" diagnosis and you can take as much time as you want on the SAT/ACT, and all of your tests in high school. Most mediocrities can achieve excellent grades on the SAT/ACT test, any test, given enough time to take it. I wonder what percentage of students attending our elite colleges opted for this "dyslexia" scam? I'll bet that it is much larger than most of us think.
  10. @jimmyriddle
    Mostly crazy mothers.

    There was a case in England last year in which a 6 year-old boy was being sent to school in a dress.

    His father was given custody and within hours the whole situation was resolved. The kid was wearing boys' clothes and playing football.

    Hopefully the mother was wearing a different set of clothes too after this incident … the kind that have the sleeves that tie together.

  11. I saw a graph on Twitter of ADHD diagnoses per 100,000 people by country. Or was it Ritalin prescriptions? Take home was that there was YUGE variation between countries which IMHO says “cultural artefact/social construct” rather than “real pathology”.

    I guess it’s just possible we’re starting to see results from children’s (and everyone’s) exposure to 900-2600 MHz mobile phone radiation, but it’s much more likely that the presentation of transgenders as noble victims rather than oddities to be pitied is setting off lots of earnest Swedish mums who’ve found little Thorstein looking in their knicker drawer*, Sweden being one of the most pozzed places on earth.

    * an adolescent classmate at school (not at all girly, quite an alpha type) once seriously said to a bunch of us “haven’t you ever tried on your mum’s clothes?”

  12. Steve,

    Your suggestions sound so calm and rationale, so focused on finding actual causes and using that sound information to help people. But the fact is that you think like a traditional white male. Which means you think 24/7 with racism, sexism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, and transgendersism always front and center.

    And thus, when you say something that seems factual, logical, reasonable, fair, deductive, analytical, you actually are passing your deep-seated hatreds onto the unwary public by dressing them in drag.

    You are a tricky one. Not to be trusted a hair or half second.

    The Pod fils has your number.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    Jake,

    You are trying to justify the ethnic cleansing of "Whites."

    You are evil.
  13. @jimmyriddle
    Mostly crazy mothers.

    There was a case in England last year in which a 6 year-old boy was being sent to school in a dress.

    His father was given custody and within hours the whole situation was resolved. The kid was wearing boys' clothes and playing football.

    Ideas have consequences. Feminism’s consequences include an epidemic of divorce and remarriage, a very low birthrate, gay sex romanticized and then virtually deified, and, in the final stage, an epidemic of tranniness that will usher in a Pederasty culture that reigns supreme.

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    When I was growing up in the Southern Baptist Church types like Falwell and Dobson and the American Family Association we're saying this exact thing.

    Gays now....and in 20-40 years the pedos get normalised. First it was the Epstein guy who came out as a pedo....

    Wonder how many men will come out in a few years and dump their pricey high maintenance wives(my cousin makes a grand a week as a welder, his live in gf gets EVERY NICKEL) and abandon their families/kids to go live gay.

    Or worse, to live as a pedo. There's a pederast Oasis in Egypt I read about that was notorious even in ancient times as s Haven of pederasts. They said in wiki in that village that boys cost 4x what a female wife costs.

    These old child molesters will probably try to build themselves a harem of boys....I used to as a teenager and child think that unlikely....I'm starting to wonder....

    , @Alden
    As I remember, the gay rights movement was always led by gay men lesbians just went along with it. And heterosexual women had nothing to do with it.
  14. @Buzz Mohawk

    ...what if there is some new pollutant or parasite in the environment in recent years that is screwing with the brains and/or hormones of young people?
     
    It may not be that, exactly. It may be the overwhelming prevalence now of electronic distractions, rapid digital editing, fast, jumpy music. Smart phones, computers and big screens channeling attacks on peace-of-mind and the ability to contemplate.

    Every new human now grows from infancy inside a barrage of video and sound, the likes of which nobody ever in history did before.

    If you believe that human outcomes are 50/50% nature/nurture, then you must wonder how all this new crap effects the outcomes for at least some new humans.

    Quite simply, what we now call "tech" may be driving a significant percentage of our kids crazy.

    I think you may be on to something major.

  15. The population percentage of homosexuals and lesbians born that way doesn’t seem much changed over the years. That argues that the increase in sexual dysphoria (transgenderism and the other variants) is in fact an example of Munchausen syndrome, and not from something in the water.

  16. I am convinced we are living through a mass hysteria of the sort one would read about in Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds. It might even be a novel type of Twitter fueled left-wing cult. It is certainly crazy left-wing women driving it. All of their pussy hat nonsense, MeToo attention getting, and liberal virtue signaling ties in, as does the disarming of society’s rational ability to fight back because of forced political correctness. The fact this all erupted in the past 5 years in tandem is a big clue. A while back I saw Cherize Theron was dressing the poor little African boy she adopted in a dress to run her errands, and I knew then this was all just an extremely perverted fad. History will look back on this era with a combination of bewilderment and disgust.

  17. I think this is less a case of parents inventing something than the kids themselves taking on the persona of a transgender person in order to gain attention or seem more interesting. It’s the niche formerly occupied by Goths in middle/high schools.

    My neighbor has a couple of current high schoolers and his oldest graduated about 5 years ago. We were talking about the transgender issue and he said his oldest could not remember a single person in HS who claimed to be transgender but his current high school age kids know of a couple dozen who are basically their own clique.

    I am guessing most of these kids were not your average child in terms of temperament and interests who suddenly flipped but are mostly insecure and often depressed (often gay) kids who have found a new way to normalize the roller coaster of emotions and behaviors their parents have to put up with.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    Hmm... sounds familiar. The teenagers in my life (there are many, including my own) say much the same thing. As soon as something weird becomes kinda cool, some teens will adopt it, just to have an identity.

    Back in the 90's it was cool to be "bi". I wonder if that even exists anymore. Perhaps trans is the new bi.

    finally, remember, having an ISSUE gives one the self-justification to take drugs to treat said ISSUE. I do this with chocolate. I justify its enormous consumption by treating my own intestinal challenges. Works like magic.
    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Attention from parents, from peers, lots of drama...

    Kids hear about other kids doing bad stuff and start doing it themselves. For kicks.

    When I was in high school, it was anorexia/bulimia. Eating disorders were ubiquitous. Girls heard about other girls making themselves vomit after eating, getting really skinny, and said, I have got to try that.

    We didn't have any kids cutting themselves, but a few years later that became a big thing. Apparently a lot of kids a few years ahead of our class were into huffing solvents and paint or something.

    People grow out of stuff, but it's really hard if you're an anorexic and people keep telling you, 'You're right, you really could stand to lose a few pounds.'

  18. @jimmyriddle
    Mostly crazy mothers.

    There was a case in England last year in which a 6 year-old boy was being sent to school in a dress.

    His father was given custody and within hours the whole situation was resolved. The kid was wearing boys' clothes and playing football.

    I used to think that it was mostly single or divorced mothers, as (I thought) most self-respecting fathers wouldn’t put up with their kids “changing sex”. But then:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/24673/entire-family-transgender-amanda-prestigiacomo

    https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2017/08/10/parents-pimp-8-year-old-boy-as-drag-queen-lactatia/

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    This is not the first time I came across this eight year old drag queen, but I still cannot believe that it’s true. Could it not be an elaborate hoax?
  19. • Replies: @Kay
    Was just scrolling through comments to make sure I wouldn't be repeating anyone else who might have posted a link to this same site. Now I don't need to cause you already did.

    Glad the link to https://4thwavenow.com/2017/12/07/gender-dysphoria-is-not-one-thing/ is already up--it's one of the most illuminating things I read in 2017.

    The other posts from 4th wave now are also worth a look. There will be a whole popularized genre coming about families who lost their daughters in this way.
    , @James N. Kennett

    See: https://4thwavenow.com/2017/12/07/gender-dysphoria-is-not-one-thing/
     
    An excellent and very informative article.

    As well as clarifying gender dysphoria, the authors mention the damage that ill-informed "therapists" can do; and point out that certain damaging ideas find a natural home in Gender Studies departments.
  20. The year transgenderism becomes officially cool, more and more people suddenly discover they’re transgender.

    Who knew, or could have ever guessed?

    • Replies: @peterike

    The year transgenderism becomes officially cool, more and more people suddenly discover they’re transgender.

    Who knew, or could have ever guessed?
     
    Precisely. I think there are underlying environmental issues, as we know that male testosterone levels have been in free-fall, and it's a lot easier to convince an already low-T boy to put on a dress in order to be "cool." But ultimately, social shaming would keep a lid on such behavior. The precise opposite -- social glorification -- does exactly as expected.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Count, Who thought that being covered, literally, in tattoos would be socially acceptable?
  21. Or… the land of my ancestors has gone batshit crazy.

    But… How ’bout those Vikings!!!

  22. @Buzz Mohawk

    ...what if there is some new pollutant or parasite in the environment in recent years that is screwing with the brains and/or hormones of young people?
     
    It may not be that, exactly. It may be the overwhelming prevalence now of electronic distractions, rapid digital editing, fast, jumpy music. Smart phones, computers and big screens channeling attacks on peace-of-mind and the ability to contemplate.

    Every new human now grows from infancy inside a barrage of video and sound, the likes of which nobody ever in history did before.

    If you believe that human outcomes are 50/50% nature/nurture, then you must wonder how all this new crap effects the outcomes for at least some new humans.

    Quite simply, what we now call "tech" is driving a significant percentage of our kids crazy.

    Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation? – The Atlantic
    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/has-the-smartphone-destroyed-a-generation/534198/
    “We didn’t have a choice to know any life without iPads or iPhones. I think we like our phones more than we like actual people. … The Atlantic Daily

  23. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Angelina Jolie is reportedly giving her biological child Shiloh hormone treatments so as to transgender her to a boy. Supposedly as a toddler the child expressed the desire to go through life as a boy. Children this young can’t possibly understand all this and are probably being prompted by the adults around them. Something like this should be illegal since there’s a lack of adult ability to comprehend and consent. There’s a lot of trend following screwy people out there.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    The hormone treatments are probably at least somewhat reversible but the real crimes will be when they start chopping off parts of minors . I'm (not) looking forward to the stories that these poor kids will write (and hopefully the indictments that will be brought) when they reach adulthood and realize how they have been abused and mutilated and this week's fad has long faded.
  24. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    There’s also Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria, which Michael Bailey of “The Man Who Would be Queen” is looking into. This is when a teen girl suddenly, without any prior gender problems, declares that she is a guy, and often her friends also do the same.

    As Professor Bailey explains in his book, boys who show interest in acting female from toddler days are most likely going to grow up to either be homosexual males or transsexual women. The difference seems to be that if the family prevents the kid from dressing female, he becomes a happy masculine homosexual male; if he’s allowed to cross dress, then he becomes either a miserable femme homosexual male, or a transsexual female who can pass better than the older guys. These days forcing your kid to dress male will bring out child protective services, so the well-adjusted masculine homosexual male option is off the table.

    I think that other than this from-toddler condition, they are all psychological problems or sexual paraphilias. There is co-occurance of psych problems with most of these, and the autogynephillic Bruce Jenner stuff is just an extreme version of a cross-dressing paraphilia.

    Bailey explains that these guys lie about their past. If you interview their families, former female partners, and so on, their stories of always feeling like a woman don’t hold up. And in the old days when you needed a year of psych treatment before getting a surgery O.K., most of them would ‘fess up sometime before the year was up. Their obseesion was simply to dress as women and masturbate to their own images, a typical paraphilia.

    The rapid onset stuff is probably a new variation of a mass psychogenic illness, which commonly affect adolescent girls in groups, although they sometimes affect males or adults in groups.

    The problem with this area is that you cannot do research on it without bringing out the mobs of autogynephillic transgender women attacking you. Bailey’s sad story was told in “Galileo’s Middle Finger.”

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    Trannies like Donald ("Deirdre") McCloskey tried to get Bailey fired from his tenured position. And then McCloskey turns around and declares in an interview that this stuff about us (trannies, that is) always feeling like girls is not true. He admits that his move to trannyism was a conscious decision to fulfill a fantasy. Trannies are very sick dudes.
  25. It’s not environmental toxins, it’s child abuse.

  26. ” For example, what if there is some new pollutant or parasite in the environment in recent years that is screwing with the brains and/or hormones of young people? I don’t have any evidence that there is, but it seems like a possibility that we at least ought to entertain.”

    Estrogen and other female hormones getting into the drinking water from an abundance of birth control pills? I have seen this theory before. Can’t speak to the validity of it though.

    • Replies: @notanon

    Estrogen and other female hormones getting into the drinking water from an abundance of birth control pills?
     
    There's also a ton of phyto-estrogens getting into the food supply via soy and seed oils.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogens
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Mike, I have a friend who is a plumber, everyone should have one. He told me that the build up of undissolved pharmaceuticals in plumbing, through urine, is unbelievable. There are studies about meds in the water supply effecting Great Lakes fish, so there's that.
  27. “For example, what if there is some new pollutant or parasite in the environment in recent years that is screwing with the brains and/or hormones of young people?”

    Chateau Heartiste has had a number of posts about the staggering drop in average testosterone among young American males. He and his commenters link it to the extensive use of soy additives in a huge range of commercial foods as well as the BCP in plastic. Here is a link to one such post.

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    Sperm counts have been dropping as well, which makes me think there is an environmental component, which may be in a feedback loop with culture.

    LBGTQXYZ is actually a very interesting, very thorny scientific problem, and I think many of them are unrelated phenomena. I think autism is probably similar in that it is really a bunch of separate syndromes with separate causes that are just linked together. Anyway my armchair theorizing:

    Male homosexuality--present from antiquity and in all cultures, correlated with number of older siblings. Not correlated with or 'cured' by serum testosterone or other sex hormones. Therefore likely not due to modern environmental or cultural influences. Likely explanation is a maternal immune issue to some fetal protein that directs sexual preferences in utero, mothers are sensitized to prior male gestations and then react to a subsequent gestation. This raises the possibility that there could be a prenatal test for homosexuality. Also, probably likely that male homosexuality itself is multifactorial given the heterogenous sexual preferences that male homosexuals display.

    Female homosexuality and bisexuality--appears much more malleable than male homosexuality (aka lesbians until graduation, BUGs, etc.) Long term lesbianism strongly correlated with failure to find a mate, or failure to find a mate that displays stronger masculine characteristics than the lesbian. Given this, appears to be essentially a normal female reaction to a particular environmental stimulus, and it actually would seem to be an adaptive behavior.

    Male bisexuality--unclear--mild case of male homosexuality?

    Transgenderism--probably part of a family of body dysmorphic disorder type mental illnesses, becoming more common due to rapid hormonal swings and the environmental presence of endocrine disruptors. Not really present in antiquity or in preindustrialized cultures so likely some environmental component, as well as a cultural component, which may be in a bit of a feedback loop at present.
    , @Mr. Anon
    My perception is that girls / young women have lower pitched voices than they ever did before. I suppose this could be an observer bias - my high frequency hearing isn't as good as it used to be - however, I believe there are some studies indicating this to be an actual phenomenon.
    , @Anon
    I'd say it was the staggering drop in exercise, which makes the male body produce more testosterone.
    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Do boys ( or men) who wish they were girls (or women) have lower than average testosterone levels?

    I'm not even sure homosexual men have lower T. Some do, obviously, but some are enormous muscle heads.
    , @Alden
    Recent tests of the meat in Subways sandwiches shows some of the meat like turkey chicken, salami baloney were 50 percent soy. The ham roast beef had less.

    Hamburger meat and that health food ground turkey is often filed with soy granules.
    , @Almost Missouri
    Have to agree here. There is a huge and unprecedented increase in soy in the food supply. Soy is known to affect hormones. I have to think that the reason this obvious candidate for the rise of all kinds of sexual dysfunction is not being seriously investigated is an unholy alliance of soy growers and processors (who don't want large markets closed off to them) plus the usual Poz suspects (who don't want anyone to conceive of the Poz as a dysfunction rather than natural and good).
  28. @Arclight
    I think this is less a case of parents inventing something than the kids themselves taking on the persona of a transgender person in order to gain attention or seem more interesting. It's the niche formerly occupied by Goths in middle/high schools.

    My neighbor has a couple of current high schoolers and his oldest graduated about 5 years ago. We were talking about the transgender issue and he said his oldest could not remember a single person in HS who claimed to be transgender but his current high school age kids know of a couple dozen who are basically their own clique.

    I am guessing most of these kids were not your average child in terms of temperament and interests who suddenly flipped but are mostly insecure and often depressed (often gay) kids who have found a new way to normalize the roller coaster of emotions and behaviors their parents have to put up with.

    Hmm… sounds familiar. The teenagers in my life (there are many, including my own) say much the same thing. As soon as something weird becomes kinda cool, some teens will adopt it, just to have an identity.

    Back in the 90’s it was cool to be “bi”. I wonder if that even exists anymore. Perhaps trans is the new bi.

    finally, remember, having an ISSUE gives one the self-justification to take drugs to treat said ISSUE. I do this with chocolate. I justify its enormous consumption by treating my own intestinal challenges. Works like magic.

  29. On the other hand, perhaps the arrow of causation goes in the opposite direction. It could be that Something Has Changed. For example, what if there is some new pollutant or parasite in the environment in recent years that is screwing with the brains and/or hormones of young people? I don’t have any evidence that there is, but it seems like a possibility that we at least ought to entertain.

    In all seriousness, some people have pointed to BPA being behind the decline in sperm counts across the world. It would make sense since the true environmental interloper across all these places (Diet and social changes in Iraq versus Sweden versus South Korea seem hard to square otherwise) would be plastic as a novel material that reached critical mass in food containers and in the environment generally at around the time of the declines.

    https://vimeo.com/34176018

    But transgenderism is hard to quantify, some of the ftm transgenders in particular look a bit odd, (Ie, there is some hormonal imbalance) but then it’s always easier for a butch girl to pass a boy than the reverse. But there are also plenty of effeminate boys and masculine girls who are perfectly fine with their bodies. It’d difficult to see what proportion of this new cohort are people one would look at and say they’re physical outliers for their sex and what proportion look perfectly normal. (Ie, people with a mental disorder)

    It could be that the very existence of these treatments and surgeries have reached a critical point and prior to that people just dealt with discomfort with their bodies or lose those feelings. They had no choice, now they’re presented with the whole of society echoing that this is what you do if you feel this way.

    One thing I find most sickening of all is the debate is tacitly now one where we debate if the child will cease having a desire for the effects these treatments promise (Changing their sex) instead of acknowledging that these procedures can’t change your sex. 10-15 years ago that was the progressive (It was an issue nobody else could care about) notion, look at how awfully these people mutilate themselves in delusional hope, we should care for them to make them accept their bodies and not let these doctors take advantage, isn’t this all very tragic. For god’s sake there’s even a Dresden Dolls song that had that theme.

  30. Question, who is more confused about their gender. Girls? Boys? Open acceptance of the gay live style could be a factor but I go with confused parents.

  31. Children can easily be led to demonstrate their piety — especially where coevolution with harsh environments means failure to follow the mores with fidelity can mean death to the family.

    So, if the model of the innocent victim, worthy of worship, is a person with some gender abnormality — guess what those children, yearning to be accepted by the tribe lest they be left out in the snow, are going to follow as the pious route to survival?

  32. I’m going to throw out one more possibility, one which will probably be offensive to many conservative readers. Human beings are not a special creation, they are just another of the many species that have evolved here on Earth. The mechanics of biological creation are not perfect; reproduction does not create uniform humans. The binary nature of human beings, hetero males and females, is not perfectly replicated. Don’t get me wrong: it’s really well implemented, probably 99ish percent on the money. But it’s not perfect. Read the article for speculation about what might be different in the current era, in the environment or in the culture, that gets us to this problem. But truthfully, we’ve always had this problem.

    What to do about it? I’d suggest what has worked in past centuries. Let the people of small towns and rural areas pretend that it doesn’t exist. Let the people who feel they are different gravitate to big cities, where they will find people like themselves. Let the cosmopolitan people of big cities feel that they are superior in their acceptance of people who are different, and let them think it is much more common than it really is.

    What you do NOT want to do is set up a national authority that tells everyone what they can do and what they can believe and who can use what bathroom in every tiny town and school and church in America. And if the cosmopolitan elites don’t agree, tell them that’s one way you get to Trump. That might just shut them up.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    The cosmopolitan elites are the ones who are driving all of this insanity. They're the ones who are ramming tranny-lib down everyone's throats. (Do you honestly believe that high-school principals in rural North Carolina were the ones who created the bathroom controversy? There wouldn't even be a controversy if it weren't for the whackjobs in the coastal enclaves.) No one has the luxury of pretending that trannies doesn't exist when folks are being persecuted (and prosecuted) for not going along with the program.

    SJWs always double down. If you tell them that Trump was elected because normal Americans are sick and tired of the immivasion/BLM/WWT freak show, they don't think, "Oh, yes, you're absolutely right! We need to back off!" They think, "We must work overtime to destroy Trump! The bigoted sheep must pay for their disobedience! Anyone who opposes us must be destroyed! Nothing can stand in our way! We must prevail!"

    In 2004, gay marriage lost in every state where it was on the ballot. (As late as 2008, Obama felt compelled to pretend to oppose it.) Faced with such overwhelming defeat, did the SJWs give up? Nope. They made gay marriage a holy crusade. "We're on the right side of history!" became their battle cry. The activist left was fanatically devoted to the cause, and the "mainstream" left was supportive; many if not most "conservatives" were fair-weather traditionalists (at best) who were only too willing to capitulate in face of an unrelenting onslaught. The gay-marriage agitators pushed and pushed and pushed until their opponents threw up their hands and shrieked, "Fine! We're sick of hearing about it! We'll give you what you want!" By 2012, the tide had turned decisively.

    The same thing happened with tranny rights.

    If you believe that you can sit down with these people and have a rational discussion with them, then you are hopelessly naive. You can't negotiate with nuts. They will not hesitate to destroy anyone who disagrees with them. If you don't have the stomach for that kind of a fight, then you should be prepared to lose.
    , @donut
    "I’d suggest what has worked in past centuries." Excellent idea . Infant exposure .
  33. @countenance
    The year transgenderism becomes officially cool, more and more people suddenly discover they're transgender.

    Who knew, or could have ever guessed?

    The year transgenderism becomes officially cool, more and more people suddenly discover they’re transgender.

    Who knew, or could have ever guessed?

    Precisely. I think there are underlying environmental issues, as we know that male testosterone levels have been in free-fall, and it’s a lot easier to convince an already low-T boy to put on a dress in order to be “cool.” But ultimately, social shaming would keep a lid on such behavior. The precise opposite — social glorification — does exactly as expected.

  34. Occam’s Razor, folks. Mass hysteria.

    Like the gluten allergy nonsense a few years ago. These things are fashion.

    • Replies: @Anon87
    Agreed. I'm surprised Steve didn't just go with that, considering how often he has borrowed a form of the phrase. Looking for a parasite or pollutant is a shade above space aliens (UFOs are having a minor moment) or maybe the Babadook being the cause. People are idiots, and we are all supposed to pretend the "autistic tranny" 6 year old just doesn't have shitty parents.
  35. @Buzz Mohawk

    ...what if there is some new pollutant or parasite in the environment in recent years that is screwing with the brains and/or hormones of young people?
     
    It may not be that, exactly. It may be the overwhelming prevalence now of electronic distractions, rapid digital editing, fast, jumpy music. Smart phones, computers and big screens channeling attacks on peace-of-mind and the ability to contemplate.

    Every new human now grows from infancy inside a barrage of video and sound, the likes of which nobody ever in history did before.

    If you believe that human outcomes are 50/50% nature/nurture, then you must wonder how all this new crap effects the outcomes for at least some new humans.

    Quite simply, what we now call "tech" may be driving a significant percentage of our kids crazy.

    Yes, and that doesn’t even include the still not really defined effect of the constant, high-frequency electromagnetic radiation that almost everyone grows up bathed in now.

    Besides the cell phone snug against your pelvis, almost every living space in the first world is swathed in multiple overlapping wifi fields. And then there are the various other new forms of electromagnetic radiation that you are exposed to but you have no way to detect.

    The trillion dollar comms industry has a vested interest in your just accepting that all of that is fine and dandy. Occasionally (usually in Europe) a medical study crops up saying, hey maybe there is problem here, before it is buried under an industry-sponsored full spectrum attack.

    Maybe all of that stuff really is harmless, but good luck getting an objective appraisal.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    A lot of wifi routers and 4G phones broadcast at about the same frequency that microwave ovens use (2.45 Ghz), although the power is much lower than in a microwave. Then again, how many people pop something in the microwave and stand there looking at it at close range while it heats up. How much exposure do they get? There is some leakage from an oven.

    Those frequencies are non-ionizing, but what other physiological effects do they have? I don't think we really know. As you say, there is no conclusive research that says they are bad. But likewise, there are wealthy and powerful interests invested in preventing any such research from being done.
  36. FDR Grew Up in a Dress: It Wasn’t Always Blue for Boys and Pink for Girls
    https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/04/fdr-grew-up-in-a-dress-it-wasnt-always-blue-for-boys-and-pink-for-girls/237299/

    In the past very young boys were normally dressed in the same clothes as girls, which was convenient for their mother who had 5 other kids to deal with. One possibility is that modern Swedish women are not socialized to raise children and don’t have many, so when their only child acts weird they either don’t know it, or overreact.

    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
    Occasionally (usually in Europe) a medical study crops up saying, hey maybe there is problem here, before it is buried under an industry-sponsored full spectrum attack.
  37. @Buzz Mohawk

    ...what if there is some new pollutant or parasite in the environment in recent years that is screwing with the brains and/or hormones of young people?
     
    It may not be that, exactly. It may be the overwhelming prevalence now of electronic distractions, rapid digital editing, fast, jumpy music. Smart phones, computers and big screens channeling attacks on peace-of-mind and the ability to contemplate.

    Every new human now grows from infancy inside a barrage of video and sound, the likes of which nobody ever in history did before.

    If you believe that human outcomes are 50/50% nature/nurture, then you must wonder how all this new crap effects the outcomes for at least some new humans.

    Quite simply, what we now call "tech" is driving a significant percentage of our kids crazy.

    Not just tech. Empty suburbs. Wildly unstable social groups and absence of family courtesy of “high labor mobility.” Absent and absent even when present parents. There’s no need to go for chemicals as an explanation.

    • Replies: @Alden
    But White suburbs full of hardworking parents who work weekends and get home late don’t produce the retarded school dropout criminals in and out of juvenile courts do they?

    No, the White kids go to school, graduate and go to college and get jobs.

    The black neighborhoods full of stay at home moms produce school dropout retards in and out of the juvenile courts who become criminals don’t they ?

    The stay at home mom and dad around all weekend and home at 6 every night able to help with 2 hours of homework has disappeared along with the 40 hour week and one income family.
  38. “The reported number of cases of autism soared in recent decades. But of course that could be due to the (weak form) Sapir-Whorf hypothesis that having a word for something makes it easier for humans to notice it.”

    I’ve said here before that I have personally observed both the tremendous increase in the number of autism diagnoses but also in the parameters of what is called “autism”. People who in the past would have qualified as merely socially awkward or as seriously suffering some kind of mental retardation are now additionally classified as “autistic”.

    My own theory for the mechanics of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis in this case is what I call the Temple Grandin Effect. After Temple Grandin became a celebrity autist with adoring press coverage and Oprah-esque movie productions, her story of autism-made-good became the ladder of hope out of the hole of despair in which the parents of so many children with a handicap find themselves. For a diagnosing physician, adding a diagnosis of “autism”, which formerly would have compounded the parents’ woes, now is almost an act of mercy.

    Formerly: “You mean my child will labor forever under an incurable handicap?”

    Today: “You mean my child could become a great humanitarian and celebrity like Temple Grandin?”

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    There is also a financial incentive. Nowadays, if you can get a physician to give your kid a hard diagnosis of a handicap like "autism", you can access a variety of school district, government or even private funding programs for your kid. Who doesn't like to have someone else's money spent on their kid? Since autism is the most fashionable diagnosis, per the above-mentioned Temple Grandin Effect, it is the diagnosis that parents of handicapped or somehow awkward kids will lobby for most.
  39. @jimmyriddle
    Mostly crazy mothers.

    There was a case in England last year in which a 6 year-old boy was being sent to school in a dress.

    His father was given custody and within hours the whole situation was resolved. The kid was wearing boys' clothes and playing football.

    Parents used to socialize their children. I certainly would have preferred to be a boy, when I was 4, probably because I had two older very adventurous brothers who seemed to have all the fun. Who wouldn’t prefer their freedom?

    But my mother finally got me into a dress by the time I started first grade. I never made a terribly great female, either, but would have been worse as a male. You just gotta make that assessment and choose.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    Right there with you. I still don't wear dresses, even as a wife and mother.

    These wicked people are going to have do some serious begging for forgiveness when their children are older.
  40. So are 1 in 7750 males expressing a desire to be raped, and are 1 in 13120 expressing a desire to do the raping? Maybe both. After all, all sex is rape in Sweden.

    Is there a religious cross-section study to be found? I would suspect the higher male conversion rate is actually much higher for native Swede cis-males after accounting for all the recent male arrivals.

  41. I say, real, and environmental.

    Consider celiac disease (autoimmune disorder, destroys the small bowel, triggered by gluten).
    It is exploding in frequency — and not just among children either. Dr. Fasano found that for every 15 years of life, your chances of becoming celiac as an adult double. Also, it’s now known that the nutrient deficiencies of celiac disease, as well as the autoimmune reaction itself, can cause psychological trouble. Among them, ADHD-like, autistic-like, and schizophrenia-like symptoms.

    Celiac disease is HIGHLY associated with ADHD. A recent study found that among ADHD patients, found a 15 percent incidence of celiac disease — 15X the rate among the normal population of 1 percent. They found that putting these patients on a gluten free diet reduced their symptoms significantly.

    Many parents of autistic children have found that the gluten-free diet reduces autistic behaviors.

    Humans have eaten bread for many thousands of years. Celiac used to be rare.
    If celiac disease, which is undeniably due to both the genetic predisposition AND the environmental cause of exposure to gluten, is exploding in frequency, SOMETHING in the environment has changed.

    Autoimmune disorders of all kinds have increased in frequency, and having one autoimmune disorder, like celiac disease, for example, increases your risk of acquiring others.

    Gender dysphoria as an autoimmune disease? Sounds like a reasonable direction for research.

    • Replies: @peterike

    Humans have eaten bread for many thousands of years. Celiac used to be rare.
    If celiac disease, which is undeniably due to both the genetic predisposition AND the environmental cause of exposure to gluten, is exploding in frequency, SOMETHING in the environment has changed.

     

    I would guess it is somehow related to wheat mono-cultures. Wheat is nowhere near as diverse (well, diversity IS good in some areas!) or nutritious as it once was, as it's been bred for yield above all else. So maybe in the past people were getting all kinds of different wheat types and sub-types, so the body never overloaded on any one of them. Now we get a single type of wheat and it's everywhere, so possibly the body reacts to it like a toxin. Just too much of the same thing.

    There is also the question of iron toxicity, as in America at least wheat is stupidly fortified with iron. What does this do to you if you're exposed to this from birth?

  42. But of course that could be due to the (weak form) Sapir-Whorf hypothesis that having a word for something makes it easier for humans to notice it

    Surely this point applies to transgenderism as such, as well as autism.

  43. @Almost Missouri

    "The reported number of cases of autism soared in recent decades. But of course that could be due to the (weak form) Sapir-Whorf hypothesis that having a word for something makes it easier for humans to notice it."
     
    I've said here before that I have personally observed both the tremendous increase in the number of autism diagnoses but also in the parameters of what is called "autism". People who in the past would have qualified as merely socially awkward or as seriously suffering some kind of mental retardation are now additionally classified as "autistic".

    My own theory for the mechanics of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis in this case is what I call the Temple Grandin Effect. After Temple Grandin became a celebrity autist with adoring press coverage and Oprah-esque movie productions, her story of autism-made-good became the ladder of hope out of the hole of despair in which the parents of so many children with a handicap find themselves. For a diagnosing physician, adding a diagnosis of "autism", which formerly would have compounded the parents' woes, now is almost an act of mercy.

    Formerly: "You mean my child will labor forever under an incurable handicap?"

    Today: "You mean my child could become a great humanitarian and celebrity like Temple Grandin?"

    There is also a financial incentive. Nowadays, if you can get a physician to give your kid a hard diagnosis of a handicap like “autism”, you can access a variety of school district, government or even private funding programs for your kid. Who doesn’t like to have someone else’s money spent on their kid? Since autism is the most fashionable diagnosis, per the above-mentioned Temple Grandin Effect, it is the diagnosis that parents of handicapped or somehow awkward kids will lobby for most.

    • Replies: @Alden
    Plus, you can get the $800 a month disability money. That’s a big incentive.
  44. I don’t know about guys thinking they’re girls, but many girls used to go through a tomboy phase at about ten or eleven, and it would fade as the hormones kicked in during Jr. High.
    What may be happening is activist parents jumping in while that phase is still in progress, wanting to use medical science to make sure that it becomes a permanent state and a social statement, instead of a temporary part of growing up. Brianna, I’m sorry, BRADEN won’t know any better, and is a prime target for being used to prove a point.

  45. Obviously children grow up to unconsciously absorb the values of the ambient adult culture. Have you ever noticed how children tend to speak the same language as their parents?

    Louis Theroux did an interesting documentary on the subject. He does not offer a bottom line opinion, but on watching these children and their parents, I certainly go for the notion that parental or other family influence is the main factor. Particularly because of how vehemently they deny it.

    The movie used to be on Youtube, but it seems to have been taken off and there is some kind of con going on if you want to see the movie you have to submit your credit card details to verify what country you live in. Yeah, right!

    Anyway, it can be seen here:

    My own 5-year-old daughter has no current plans to change gender, but has requested that her name be changed to Beyonce.

  46. If you have an autistic kid, its more valuable in sympathy points as a transgender kid.

  47. “How much of this explosion in reported cases of child gender dysphoria is due to Munchausen’s-syndrome-by-proxy? As you may recall, I pointed out in the spring of 2013 that the New York Times appeared to be planning to make transgenderism the Next Big Crusade after gay marriage.”

    I don’t really doubt Robert Stacy McCain’s thesis that “Toxic moms … have decided that having a Special Snowflake Rainbow Unicorn Child™ is a way ‘to gain attention or sympathy from others.’”

    I can remember not too long ago some (presumably similar) parents were claiming they had “Indigo Children” for bonus Goodwhite parenting points, but that was too amorphous and insufficiently shocking, so more recently, Indigo is out and Gender Dysphoria is in.

    I happen to have an extended family member who lately has taken to claiming she has “gender dysphoria”. She is too old for her (admittedly crazy-ish mother) to have Munchausened her into it, as no one had heard of “gender dysphoria” back then. But she does have a history of bad and indelible life decisions for which she needs someone or something to blame, and “gender dysphoria” being fashionable, celebrated and totally not her fault, fits the bill perfectly. [It will surprise no one here that she is also a raging leftist SJW.]

    BTW, isn’t the whole concept of “gender dysphoria” based on a rather obvious fallacy? It assumes that one’s normal state should be euphoria, else “dysphoria” wouldn’t be a problem. Yet no one is normally euphoric except deeply ill crazy people.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    This dysphoria family member (hope she is not too close), what is the body count for her piercings and tattoos and car wrecks? My psychic other says eleven.
    , @Anonymous
    "Allergy moms" are another example. Some women just like causing tsuris everywhere they go. Having a delicate-snowflake child gives them an excuse to engage in anti-social but emotionally satisfying behavior.
  48. There’s definitely an element of mothers seeking attention through their children’s issues. They’re going for the enlightened mother angle.

  49. @jimmyriddle
    Mostly crazy mothers.

    There was a case in England last year in which a 6 year-old boy was being sent to school in a dress.

    His father was given custody and within hours the whole situation was resolved. The kid was wearing boys' clothes and playing football.

    Steve your term for this “World War T” makes me fall over laughing…

    • Replies: @bartok
    You may not be interested in World War T, but World War T is interested in you and yours.
  50. • Replies: @LKM
    Of course the Toronto Sun had the best coverage of the original story:

    Link
    The reaction of the girl's mother was priceless:

    “I came to the school right away,” a visibly upset Saima Samad said. “I’m just so happy she’s safe…It’s just not Canada. I’m so proud to be a Canadian and I feel safe in this community. It’s just, it’s not right. He should get help. This is not who we are.”
     
    That's the girl's mother on the right, in case you were wondering who we are.

    She continues:

    “It is offensive, obviously,” she said. “We don’t know his intentions. I’m very frustrated and angry. But we believe in peace. I want to give him the message — ‘We’re all in this together and we should live in harmony.’ It’s a multicultural country.”
     
    Now, given the fact that the mother's quotes sound like they were written by a rejected Obama wannabe intern, I'm sure this tripped more than a few BS-meters, including the reporter's, but perhaps the funniest part came with the description of the assailant:

    Toronto Police describe the man as Asian, in his 20s, with a medium build, around 5-foot-10, with black hair and a moustache.
     
    If you're going make up an imaginary perpetrator for a violent crime in Toronto, do not make him Asian. I don't care if it was supposed to have happened in a Chinese part of town, don't pick the most non-violent racial group in the country. Also if your alleged hate-criminal needs to have a mustache(perhaps for twirling), don't make him a member of an ethnic group known for not being able to grow facial hair.

    The Sun article also has the following nugget, just in case any of their readers thought that perhaps Muslim immigrants would grow out of their face-covering habits after getting accustomed to the Great White North. According to the mother:

    ...the family has lived in Canada for 25 years and she grew up here, but she will exercise more caution when her kids walk to school from now on.
     
    It will be interesting to see if there will be any follow-up. Both the sister and brother were supposed to have been present for the imaginary assault, so we have not one but two liars. When you consider how prepared and PC the family's reactions were, it's hard not to imagine that the whole thing was orchestrated by the mother. Also of interest is the fact that despite the sister, brother and mother all coming from the same family, they all have different surnames, which leads me to wonder if they aren't part of some sort of polygamous family.

    All in all, a pretty 2018 story.
  51. Isn’t there some studies about some frogs and/or fishes will have their sex changed when the local ratio became unbalanced as an adaptation mechanism in nature? And didn’t influx of a large cohort of mostly single military-aged males “refugees” into Sweden make the gender/sex ratio more unbalanced than China? Maybe humans have more in common with frogs than we suspected.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/europe-refugees-migrant-crisis-men-213500

    These calculations suggest that as of the end of 2015, there were 123 16- and 17-year-old boys in Sweden for every 100 girls of that age. … In China, long the most gender-imbalanced country in the world, the male-to-female ratio of approximately 117 boys for every 100 girls in this age group now comes up short of Sweden’s gender gap.

  52. I would be curious to see the numbers on peanut allergies. There was a time when every kid was afraid of his food, with peanuts being the great Satan of foodstuffs. I can’t remember the last time I heard someone talking about peanut allergies. The more sober minded Progressives claimed it was the use of peanut oil in diapers, but that was always a bit specious.

    • Replies: @Alden
    I remember that liberal cause. Some state health departments wanted Chinese restaurants to substitute corn or soybean oil for the traditional peanut oil
    , @Corn
    The growth of peanut allergies is interesting to me. When I was a grade school boy in the ‘80s I don’t recall anyone having a peanut allergy or even hearing of such a thing. By the late ‘90s or early ‘00s it seemed there were kids everywhere with peanut allergies.
  53. @Almost Missouri

    "How much of this explosion in reported cases of child gender dysphoria is due to Munchausen’s-syndrome-by-proxy? As you may recall, I pointed out in the spring of 2013 that the New York Times appeared to be planning to make transgenderism the Next Big Crusade after gay marriage."
     
    I don't really doubt Robert Stacy McCain's thesis that "Toxic moms ... have decided that having a Special Snowflake Rainbow Unicorn Child™ is a way 'to gain attention or sympathy from others.'"

    I can remember not too long ago some (presumably similar) parents were claiming they had "Indigo Children" for bonus Goodwhite parenting points, but that was too amorphous and insufficiently shocking, so more recently, Indigo is out and Gender Dysphoria is in.

    I happen to have an extended family member who lately has taken to claiming she has "gender dysphoria". She is too old for her (admittedly crazy-ish mother) to have Munchausened her into it, as no one had heard of "gender dysphoria" back then. But she does have a history of bad and indelible life decisions for which she needs someone or something to blame, and "gender dysphoria" being fashionable, celebrated and totally not her fault, fits the bill perfectly. [It will surprise no one here that she is also a raging leftist SJW.]

    BTW, isn't the whole concept of "gender dysphoria" based on a rather obvious fallacy? It assumes that one's normal state should be euphoria, else "dysphoria" wouldn't be a problem. Yet no one is normally euphoric except deeply ill crazy people.

    This dysphoria family member (hope she is not too close), what is the body count for her piercings and tattoos and car wrecks? My psychic other says eleven.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Eleven looks about right for tattoos/piercings. Not sure about her driving history.
  54. Banned transphobic comedy skit from SNL…

    SNL: Girl-Crazy Obstetrician

    Reporter: Now, I understand you’ve been working and practicing here in Radfield for 21 years. … And you’ve delivered over 4,300 babies. … And they’ve all been girls. … It’s like a miracle. Not one single boy. …

    Obstetrician: Louise? Would you send in the Carters, please? … Hello, Janet, Ted!

    Ted Carter: He delivered all seven of our daughters.

    Obstetrician: Well, I have the results of your amniocentesis right here, and I’ve.. got some good news. Everything’s fine, the baby’s healthy.

    Ted Carter: Dr. Hoffritz? Is it a boy?

    Obstetrician: Well, no. It’s a girl.

    Janet Carter: You see, Ted wants a boy. This is our eighth try.

    Ted Carter: Doctor, will this one need that operation?

    Obstetrician: Yes, I’m afraid so.

    Reporter: [ curious ] What operation is this, Doctor?

    Obstetrician: Well.. every now and then, a little girl is born with a penis and testicles. And, of course, they have to be removed and reshaped.

    Ted Carter: It’s quite routine. Five of our seven daughters have had this operation.

    Reporter: Doctor, what percent of the babies that you deliver need this operation?

    Obstetrician: Oh, I’d say.. 48, 49.. 50, 51% – in that area!

    Reporter: [ bothered ] Dr. Hoffritz, can’t you see what you’re doing here? I mean, the 48-51% – they’re not girls, they’re little boys! You have mutilated over 2,000 little boys!

    Obstetrician: No! No, they weren’t boys. They were little girls.. trapped in little boys’ bodies.. [ music sweeps over him ] You see.. boys are.. bad. They have bad thoughts! Sometimes they disobey their mothers.. they have to be punished! [ sniffles ] But what do their mothers know, anyway.. [ weeping ] They’re out all night with “Uncle Rudy”! But he’s not my uncle! Why does she call him my “uncle”..? [ falls to the floor, crying ]

    Announcer: This week in People, meet girl-crazy Dr. Jacob Hoffritz, the one in a trillion obstretrician whose favorite color just has to be pink! Only in People!

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    This actually happened to a Canadian man who as an infant suffered a botched circumcision and was then turned over to a respected quack believer in blank slatism.
  55. I am not aware of any equivalent phenomenon in the still famously masculine Muslim, black and mestizo worlds. I am not seeing stories about the PLA or IDF struggling to fill combat roles. This seems to only be happening to one group of people.

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome, @Rod1963
    Because they don't put up with batshit crazy wives and females in general who want to destroy boys.

    Make no mistake, a lot of this is a result of men letting their wives do as they please. Mostly it's confined to upper middle class college educated white women who were exposed to toxic levels of feminazi and Post Modern thinking.

    Look mom's don't wake up one day and decide to change their little boy into a freak. Someone had to poison their mind over a period of years that sexual deviancy is the norm. The only place that happens is in college. It's socially isolated enough to easily be seen as cult indoctrination center.
  56. My observation at my child’s elementary school is that gender dysphoria could be due to either Münchhausen syndrome or Münchhausen by Proxy. Kids love the special attention they get from teachers when they claim to be transgender, and the wealthy woke parents like all the attention they get from the teachers and administration when their kids appear affected by gender dysphoria. As for the possibility of environmental toxins causing gender dysphoria, look no further than the average virtue signaling mother’s fridge. Lots of soy products. And many of these overexercised, underweight dried out social x-rays end up unable to breastfeed their children do they give their kids soy based infant formula. All the boys in my kids class look very effeminate, much more so than my cohort.

  57. @Jake
    Ideas have consequences. Feminism's consequences include an epidemic of divorce and remarriage, a very low birthrate, gay sex romanticized and then virtually deified, and, in the final stage, an epidemic of tranniness that will usher in a Pederasty culture that reigns supreme.

    When I was growing up in the Southern Baptist Church types like Falwell and Dobson and the American Family Association we’re saying this exact thing.

    Gays now….and in 20-40 years the pedos get normalised. First it was the Epstein guy who came out as a pedo….

    Wonder how many men will come out in a few years and dump their pricey high maintenance wives(my cousin makes a grand a week as a welder, his live in gf gets EVERY NICKEL) and abandon their families/kids to go live gay.

    Or worse, to live as a pedo. There’s a pederast Oasis in Egypt I read about that was notorious even in ancient times as s Haven of pederasts. They said in wiki in that village that boys cost 4x what a female wife costs.

    These old child molesters will probably try to build themselves a harem of boys….I used to as a teenager and child think that unlikely….I’m starting to wonder….

  58. How odd that the “Astrid Lindgren” hospital is treating these kids. Astrid Lindgren is the authoress/creator of “Pippi Longstocking”. Pippi is the iconic tomboy in Miss Lindgren’s famous series of children’s books.

    • Replies: @Pericles

    How odd that the “Astrid Lindgren” hospital is treating these kids.
     
    It's one of few (or perhaps the only?) private children's hospitals in Sweden. Presumably coincidence, but it might be fun to point out to virtue signalers. ("And I assume Sven here is the negro king of the Southern Sea?")
  59. @3g4me
    "For example, what if there is some new pollutant or parasite in the environment in recent years that is screwing with the brains and/or hormones of young people?"

    Chateau Heartiste has had a number of posts about the staggering drop in average testosterone among young American males. He and his commenters link it to the extensive use of soy additives in a huge range of commercial foods as well as the BCP in plastic. Here is a link to one such post.

    Sperm counts have been dropping as well, which makes me think there is an environmental component, which may be in a feedback loop with culture.

    LBGTQXYZ is actually a very interesting, very thorny scientific problem, and I think many of them are unrelated phenomena. I think autism is probably similar in that it is really a bunch of separate syndromes with separate causes that are just linked together. Anyway my armchair theorizing:

    Male homosexuality–present from antiquity and in all cultures, correlated with number of older siblings. Not correlated with or ‘cured’ by serum testosterone or other sex hormones. Therefore likely not due to modern environmental or cultural influences. Likely explanation is a maternal immune issue to some fetal protein that directs sexual preferences in utero, mothers are sensitized to prior male gestations and then react to a subsequent gestation. This raises the possibility that there could be a prenatal test for homosexuality. Also, probably likely that male homosexuality itself is multifactorial given the heterogenous sexual preferences that male homosexuals display.

    Female homosexuality and bisexuality–appears much more malleable than male homosexuality (aka lesbians until graduation, BUGs, etc.) Long term lesbianism strongly correlated with failure to find a mate, or failure to find a mate that displays stronger masculine characteristics than the lesbian. Given this, appears to be essentially a normal female reaction to a particular environmental stimulus, and it actually would seem to be an adaptive behavior.

    Male bisexuality–unclear–mild case of male homosexuality?

    Transgenderism–probably part of a family of body dysmorphic disorder type mental illnesses, becoming more common due to rapid hormonal swings and the environmental presence of endocrine disruptors. Not really present in antiquity or in preindustrialized cultures so likely some environmental component, as well as a cultural component, which may be in a bit of a feedback loop at present.

    • Replies: @Jack D

    Not really present in antiquity or in preindustrialized cultures so likely some environmental component, as well as a cultural component, which may be in a bit of a feedback loop at present.
     
    Of course surgery and hormone treatments were not available in the past, but there are many instances in many cultures of women choosing to live as men or vice versa. There is really nothing new under the sun.
    , @Anonymous
    There have been past cultures where a "third gender" existed, so I've always wondered if any studies have been done on the percentage of the population in those populations versus modern ones; my understanding is that was mostly men who identified or declared as not male. This is of course complicated by cultures that strongly associated manliness with a certain set of virtues which naturally declined with age:


    Being used homosexually by another man was equated with cowardice because of the custom of sexual aggression against vanquished foes. This practice is documented in Sturlunga saga, most notably in Guðmundar saga dýra where Guðmundr takes captive a man and his wife, and plans for both the woman and the man to be raped as a means of sexual humiliation (Ok var þat við orð at leggja Þórunni í rekkju hjá einhverjum gárungi, en gera þat vi Bjôrn prest, at þat þætti eigi minni svívirðing.) (Sørenson 82, 111; Sturlunga saga, I, 201)...

    ...It is interesting to note that the Vikings considered that old age caused a man to become argr(gay/feminine). A well-known proverb stated svá ergisk hverr sem eldisk, "everyone gets argr as he gets older."
     
    , @Alden
    With 2 or even 1 child families the norm, shouldn’t make gays start to disappear?
    , @dfordoom

    Long term lesbianism strongly correlated with failure to find a mate, or failure to find a mate that displays stronger masculine characteristics than the lesbian.
     
    I used to know a lot of lesbians. All of them were sexually attracted to men. And emotionally attracted to men.

    There's actually no such thing as lesbianism.
  60. But why isn’t anybody interested in searching out a novel pollutant?

    Because transgenderism is considered a good thing and a wonderful opportunity for virtue-signaling.

    Trying to “cure” it would be a hate crime.

  61. @Clyde
    The first sex change operations were done in Denmark. Switched on Bach, the he to she Wendy Carlos that did this album was the first self-victim of Denmark's chopping block that I heard of. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Switched+on+Bach&search=Search

    Bach done w synthesizers.

    Loved Switched on Bach as a kid (on 8-track). Also the A clockwork Orange soundtrack. I was completely baffled by the awful Tron soundtrack, and still wonder if that wasn’t what ended his/her career (beyond some interesting but obscure experimental stuff).

  62. @Selvar
    Mostly social normalization of transgenderism+adolescent attention seeking leading borderline cases to identify with being "trans" instead of living normal lives. Similarly, I've seen data showing that, as homosexuality was accepted by society, the rate of homosexuality did not increase (much,) but the rate of bisexuality exploded. Again, borderline cases trying to advantageously position themselves in the new paradigm .

    The "Flight From White" is a similar phenomenon. Whites used to hide racial impurities in their bloodline. Now, every Tom, Dick, and Harry is trying to prove that they're 1/16th Native American/Negro or whatever so as to gain moral authority in the new order. A popular"Anti-SJW" liberal fellow named Sargon has recently been called out on it by the Alt Right (for the record: his parents are white as the driven snow.)

    If you mean Carl Benjamin, AKA Sargon of Akkad, his grandfather is West Indian.

  63. @miss marple
    The statistic behind these statistics may be the number of women who really wanted a little girl but the stork brought a boy. Boys are not nearly as much fun for a woman to raise in terms of dressing them or styling their hair. Seems shallow, I know, though neutering is a slight improvement over infanticide.

    Come to think of it this may eventually become a solution for problematic relationships with adult males...

    Miss Marple, My daughter presented a paper on the sexualization of preteen girls by their mothers who want to live their lives again through their daughters. Make up, heels, adult under garments, jewelry, all age inappropriate. So, I think you are on to something.

    • Replies: @Thea
    Would love to read that paper.

    There are some very odd pictures of a toddler Oscar Wilde dressed as a girl. I'm told that common in the Victorian era.
  64. @countenance
    The year transgenderism becomes officially cool, more and more people suddenly discover they're transgender.

    Who knew, or could have ever guessed?

    Count, Who thought that being covered, literally, in tattoos would be socially acceptable?

  65. Just thought I’d put out there that both Charles Manson and Henry Lee Lucas had vivid memories of their mothers dressing them up as girls when they were children.

  66. @miss marple
    The statistic behind these statistics may be the number of women who really wanted a little girl but the stork brought a boy. Boys are not nearly as much fun for a woman to raise in terms of dressing them or styling their hair. Seems shallow, I know, though neutering is a slight improvement over infanticide.

    Come to think of it this may eventually become a solution for problematic relationships with adult males...

    A hundred years ago, middle class white women we free to dress (decorate) infants and toddlers as they saw fit, even coiffing their hair in long ringlets. My grandfather looked like the perfect girl in his christening gown and golden curls.

    “Short pants” on boys were worn well into childhood. For a young boy in that era it was a rite of passage into the masculine world to receive his first pair of “long pants”.

    It has always been difficult for women to surrender their darling baby boys to the society of men.

    • Replies: @3g4me
    @67 Big Bill: "It has always been difficult for women to surrender their darling baby boys to the society of men."

    You're correct that there's no shortage of photos showing how f-d up mothers in the past attempted to subvert their sons, but I'd argue that's merely because they were f-d up. I love both my boys, but I have no doubt that, if asked to list all my many flaws, refusing to let them grow up or trying to smother them would just never occur to them. I still recall when my older one (FWIW quite a risk taker and gun lover) was about 3 and took a shine to a pair of sparkly purple winter boots. I simply agreed they were a pretty color but told him they were for girls and that was the end of it. As an adult he wears black more often than not.

    I, on the other hand, still have the embroidered little girl's dress I bought more than 25 years ago on a visit to Budapest, in hopes of the daughter that was never to be. It will abide.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Big Bill, I am 72 yrs old now. When my youngest grandson was Christened 6 yrs ago, he wore my Christening gown, as had my son and his son. I have a black and white photo of my father, two of his brothers and one of their cousins , all in knickers. Not quite ready for long pants.
  67. @JSM
    I say, real, and environmental.

    Consider celiac disease (autoimmune disorder, destroys the small bowel, triggered by gluten).
    It is exploding in frequency -- and not just among children either. Dr. Fasano found that for every 15 years of life, your chances of becoming celiac as an adult double. Also, it's now known that the nutrient deficiencies of celiac disease, as well as the autoimmune reaction itself, can cause psychological trouble. Among them, ADHD-like, autistic-like, and schizophrenia-like symptoms.

    Celiac disease is HIGHLY associated with ADHD. A recent study found that among ADHD patients, found a 15 percent incidence of celiac disease -- 15X the rate among the normal population of 1 percent. They found that putting these patients on a gluten free diet reduced their symptoms significantly.

    Many parents of autistic children have found that the gluten-free diet reduces autistic behaviors.

    Humans have eaten bread for many thousands of years. Celiac used to be rare.
    If celiac disease, which is undeniably due to both the genetic predisposition AND the environmental cause of exposure to gluten, is exploding in frequency, SOMETHING in the environment has changed.


    Autoimmune disorders of all kinds have increased in frequency, and having one autoimmune disorder, like celiac disease, for example, increases your risk of acquiring others.

    Gender dysphoria as an autoimmune disease? Sounds like a reasonable direction for research.

    Humans have eaten bread for many thousands of years. Celiac used to be rare.
    If celiac disease, which is undeniably due to both the genetic predisposition AND the environmental cause of exposure to gluten, is exploding in frequency, SOMETHING in the environment has changed.

    I would guess it is somehow related to wheat mono-cultures. Wheat is nowhere near as diverse (well, diversity IS good in some areas!) or nutritious as it once was, as it’s been bred for yield above all else. So maybe in the past people were getting all kinds of different wheat types and sub-types, so the body never overloaded on any one of them. Now we get a single type of wheat and it’s everywhere, so possibly the body reacts to it like a toxin. Just too much of the same thing.

    There is also the question of iron toxicity, as in America at least wheat is stupidly fortified with iron. What does this do to you if you’re exposed to this from birth?

    • Replies: @JSM
    Thank you, yes. Cardiologist Dr. William Davis of wheatbellyblog.com says that today's wheat, semi-dwarf wheat, developed by Norman Borlaug in his Green Revolution "solution" to "world hunger," is virtually the only, higher than 90 percent, strain of wheat grown in America today.
  68. It’s funny you should post this on MLK day, because I was thinking today that World War T is MLK’s ultimate legacy. It is the logical endpoint of his philosophy.

    I use ‘MLK’ here as shorthand for both MLK, his fellow travelers, philosophical antecedents, etc. Of course the guy himself was no great philosopher, rather a plagiarist; I’m just using him as a synecdoche.

    The essence of MLK’s philosophy was that biology (and only biology) can’t be considered in political or moral decision making. It is off limits. People then, as now, knew that blacks had higher rates of violence and antisocial activities, and lower measured intelligence, and anyone perceptive could figure out that this was probably both due to environmental causes as well as heredity.

    In 1950 you could plausibly argue that the environment was the major factor, but after 50 years of affirmative action with no improvement in black dysfunction, as well as the example of East Asia, that hypothesis has become increasingly untenable, and it is more clear that this is biological issue.

    So what to do with this knowledge? I wish these weren’t the facts, but they clearly are. King and his followers would argue that you would do nothing with this information–that you ‘judge people as individuals.’ OK…. but pretty much every decision we make about other people are based on statistical averages of groups they belong to.

    If I have someone apply for a job who has a criminal record I can infer that statistically ex-cons are likely to be poor employees so I can deny that person a job. Is that fair to the ex-con? Presumably he has ‘paid his debt to society,’ and he may never re-offend again. If someone applies for a loan and they have a bad credit score, I can infer that statistically they are more likely to default on the loan and deny them the loan. But if they actually ended up paying off their debt, (maybe just missed a few payments), is that fair? Maybe they will never default again in their life. Maybe they had a legitimate reason for missing payments, medical expenses, whatever.

    As a society we allow these sorts of group judgments all the time with little regard to their fairness. However I am absolutely not allowed to make group judgments based on biology–gender, race, etc. It is the one area that is off limits. You might say that the reason is that individuals cannot choose their biology, but that is inconsistent with the above judgments. Maybe the person has a bad credit score because they were bankrupted by medical expenses. They didn’t choose to get cancer any more than someone chose to be born Somali. So you either allow these sorts of judgments, or you don’t, but we have a strange halfway compromise with little internal consistency.

    Enter WWT. I think you could strongly argue that insurance companies and taxpayers should not be paying for medical procedures to remove normal, functioning genitalia, and implanting non-functional genitalia, simply because patients say they want it. That is what our current system is.
    “I don’t want to have balls. Cut them off and bill my insurer.” Rates then go up slightly for everyone. Arguments against these procedures seem pretty obvious. But the problem is that the arguments against funding those procedures boil down to biological arguments and are therefore not allowed.

    Anyway, so happy WWT day.

  69. I blame it on the liberals’ acceptance of all things fringe. Jennifer Pritzker, the wealthiest transgender in the world, funds a Chicago clinic, the Lurie Clinic, where they help gender confused children, sometimes with counseling, sometimes with surgery, to transition. They accept patients as young as 4 years old. Barack Obama, Valerie Jarret and Rahm Emmanuel are all friends of the Hyatt Hotel heirs, the Pritzkers. Jennifer Pritzker, a retired army officer, is a proponent of transgenders in the military. Who ever though that would gain traction?

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    The colonel has opened his military library to the public. I avail myself of it frequently. And, yes, I believe that you’re correct, it’s the celebration of the fringes and the denigration of all things normal that’s behind it.
  70. Maybe it’s a bit of both – the narcissism-driven variety of virtue-signalling SJW jump onto bandwagons like this so they can virtue-signal how tolerant they are.

    (I’ve known women like that in the past who for example desperately wanted one of their sons to be gay so they could virtue-signal over it.)

    However I wonder if it might also somehow tie into the gay bug theory – maybe it isn’t a bug but a hormone imbalance caused by something in the environment?

    There’s been a number of studies into the cause of precocious female puberty but i don’t know if anyone asked if something is doing this to the girls then what might it be doing to the boys?

    In the words of the prophet Alex Jones: “they’re turning the frogs gay!”

    • Replies: @Thea
    Obesity is one factor in precocious puberty but there may be others.

    Could obesity lead one to be unhappy in their body thus inducing beliefs they are the wrong sex?
    , @Alden
    Female puberty, the first ripe egg and menstruation is caused by the fat to muscle ratio.

    Back when malnourishment was wide spread in Europe, it was not uncommon for puberty to be delayed for poor girls until 17. During periods of famine the ovum just stay in the ovaries due to the lowered fat in the body and adult women become infertile.

    It’s good nutrition and obesity that’s causing female puberty at 10 and 9 instead of 12. What happens as we become more and more obese and girls start menstruation at 7?
    , @Alden
    When I was a young mother the virtue signaling was all about denying kids sugar, ice cream cookies and dressing the girls in in boys clothes.

    Pink was so rare in girls clothes that I actually had to buy pink fabric and make pink dresses for the girls.

    Child raising fads come and go. In the early 20th century it was feeding even new born babies only every 4 hours even if they screamed in hunger.
  71. @MikeatMikedotMike
    " For example, what if there is some new pollutant or parasite in the environment in recent years that is screwing with the brains and/or hormones of young people? I don’t have any evidence that there is, but it seems like a possibility that we at least ought to entertain."

    Estrogen and other female hormones getting into the drinking water from an abundance of birth control pills? I have seen this theory before. Can't speak to the validity of it though.

    Estrogen and other female hormones getting into the drinking water from an abundance of birth control pills?

    There’s also a ton of phyto-estrogens getting into the food supply via soy and seed oils.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogens

  72. I remember a woman blogging about her young son who told her that he wanted to be a girl. She was bright enough to ask why. Well, he wanted to explore and have adventures and only girls were allowed to do that. Boys had to stay home and take care of things. This is all he ever saw in pop culture. (My rule of thumb is that pop culture is only about that which is missing from reality.)

    Maybe boys want to become girls because it’s the only way, if they take a literal reading of pop culture (which may be symptomatic of somebody who is rather Aspery), that they can be boys. Girls want to be boys so that they can be girls.

    Someday somebody will wake up and see our time as one which invented new forms of cruelty to compensate for the banishment of more traditional forms.

  73. @Enraged Canadian
    OT: Toronto hijab hate-crime hoax?

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/scarborough-hijab-attack-1.4487716

    Of course the Toronto Sun had the best coverage of the original story:

    Link
    The reaction of the girl’s mother was priceless:

    “I came to the school right away,” a visibly upset Saima Samad said. “I’m just so happy she’s safe…It’s just not Canada. I’m so proud to be a Canadian and I feel safe in this community. It’s just, it’s not right. He should get help. This is not who we are.”

    That’s the girl’s mother on the right, in case you were wondering who we are.

    She continues:

    “It is offensive, obviously,” she said. “We don’t know his intentions. I’m very frustrated and angry. But we believe in peace. I want to give him the message — ‘We’re all in this together and we should live in harmony.’ It’s a multicultural country.”

    Now, given the fact that the mother’s quotes sound like they were written by a rejected Obama wannabe intern, I’m sure this tripped more than a few BS-meters, including the reporter’s, but perhaps the funniest part came with the description of the assailant:

    Toronto Police describe the man as Asian, in his 20s, with a medium build, around 5-foot-10, with black hair and a moustache.

    If you’re going make up an imaginary perpetrator for a violent crime in Toronto, do not make him Asian. I don’t care if it was supposed to have happened in a Chinese part of town, don’t pick the most non-violent racial group in the country. Also if your alleged hate-criminal needs to have a mustache(perhaps for twirling), don’t make him a member of an ethnic group known for not being able to grow facial hair.

    The Sun article also has the following nugget, just in case any of their readers thought that perhaps Muslim immigrants would grow out of their face-covering habits after getting accustomed to the Great White North. According to the mother:

    …the family has lived in Canada for 25 years and she grew up here, but she will exercise more caution when her kids walk to school from now on.

    It will be interesting to see if there will be any follow-up. Both the sister and brother were supposed to have been present for the imaginary assault, so we have not one but two liars. When you consider how prepared and PC the family’s reactions were, it’s hard not to imagine that the whole thing was orchestrated by the mother. Also of interest is the fact that despite the sister, brother and mother all coming from the same family, they all have different surnames, which leads me to wonder if they aren’t part of some sort of polygamous family.

    All in all, a pretty 2018 story.

    • Replies: @Alden
    Moustaches have been out of style since about 1980.
  74. This reminds me of this classic post from The Last Psychiatrist: https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/01/couple_reveals_childs_gender_f.html.

    Other good posts here:
    https://sillyolme.wordpress.com/2017/04/16/getting-lost-in-the-crowd/
    http://quillette.com/2017/10/06/misunderstanding-new-kind-gender-dysphoria/

    Much identification as transgender seems to arise from a sort of social contagion, especially for teenage girls, who are more vulnerable to such dynamics.

    Another key factor is the fragilization of identity in the contemporary age. People’s identities are uncertain and they are emotionally vulnerable in socially saturated and radically diverse contexts. The natural teenage quest to develop a self of one’s own, over against one’s parents and other aspects of one’s given identity, is radicalized. People are called to self-define and all given identities are held lightly. The gravity of sexed reality, the traditional forms of gendered socialization and rites of passage, and the family are all weakened and the individual must establish its own bespoke identity, without much external aid. Then there is the fact of the Internet, where community and identity are increasingly developed for young people and the self is essentially performative. For many socially awkward kids, an intense online life, coupled with detachment from the gravity of genuine bodily and social existence, probably has bad consequences for their psychosexual development.

    But I would be surprised if there aren’t environmental factors arising from pollutants too.

  75. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @jimmyriddle
    Mostly crazy mothers.

    There was a case in England last year in which a 6 year-old boy was being sent to school in a dress.

    His father was given custody and within hours the whole situation was resolved. The kid was wearing boys' clothes and playing football.

    I am afraid a significant amount of divorced mothers cross-dressing their sons is their way of using the poor kid to get revenge on an ex-husband, and as a way to torment their ex. Sometimes narcissistic mothers do it out of amused malice. Narcissists love to play with people like they’re toys and don’t care if their own kids are destroyed.

    Sadists, however, do get a kick out of tormenting their kids, but in this day and age, the parents can be sent to jail for physical harm. They avoid that by inflicting massive psychological damage on their offspring instead. Dressing a son like a tranny and sending that kid to school makes it almost 100% certain that the poor kid will be beaten up by the other boys. It’s actually intentional children abuse by proxy, a method that gets sadistic and criminal parents off the hook legally while still leaving them able to enjoy their own kid’s savage beating.

  76. Occam’s razor to me says that modern lifestyles, technology and media bombardment are making more and more people schizophrenic. While simultaneously, massive incentives have been created for people to classify their schizophrenia as transgenderism.

    I think between government operations like MK-Ultra and cynical capitalist research, a lot of time and effort have been spent to make us crazy, so we will be better consumers and more subservient employees, dutiful taxpayers, good anticommunists etc. And on top of this has been layered a ton of other stuff that makes people crazy. Makework jobs, economic insecurity, smartphones, etc

    Transgenderism has been made a convinient “out” for this created mental illness – to let people deny that they have “a problem”. You’re not insane, you are transgender. And not only do you get an ego saving explanation, you also get cash and prizes (free or reduced drugs and psychotherapy) and a massive well funded worldwide support network. And from then on any interaction which doesn’t go your way, is a potential lucrative lawsuit/settlement. I hate to say this but incentives matter.

    This does not discount other more complicated factors like chemicals in the water supply or etc. I buy that stuff too, I just don’t understand it.

    • Replies: @Altai

    During the 1950’s and ’60’s, the U.S. government built huge housing projects for the poorest segment of urban America. While the intention of the projects was to provide good housing for the poor, it soon became apparent that these projects became the centers of the worst imaginable crime, including drug dealing and drive by killings.

    Recently, it was decided to move people out of these projects, bull doze them and place residents in more user friendly communities that are smaller and more attractive.

    Then, something surprising happened. Many of the dwellers complained that they did not want to move. How is this possible? While the protesters are few in number they make a valid point that families have now lived there for decades, formed close friendships, built a real sense of community cohesiveness, protected one another and came to feel fond of the environment. No one asked them if they wanted to move. Perhaps this is symptomatic of something that has gone wrong today, not only in the United States but all around the world.

    It has been my observation that more individuals than ever before are coming to the office because of feelings of loneliness, isolation and desolation. Some of these patients report feeling they have an inner void numbness.

    Judging From These Examples, Has the world become Schizoid?
     

    https://www.mentalhelp.net/blogs/does-the-modern-world-promote-schizoid-personality-disorder/
  77. Autism diagnoses aren’t any surer than “gender disphoria.” This is the problem with disorders and “diseases” that aren’t diagnosed on the basis of an objective test. Which is the case with some actual diseases. But mental disorders/diseases are only metaphorically medical in nature, and psychology has almost nothing to do with science. So they’re particularly susceptible.

    These things are fads. Doctors aren’t any more resistant to fads than teenage girls, in the absence of such things as blood tests and well-researched etiology.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    and psychology has almost nothing to do with science.
     
    Agreed. Psychology and psychiatry are scientific in the way astrology is scientific.

    These things are fads. Doctors aren’t any more resistant to fads than teenage girls, in the absence of such things as blood tests and well-researched etiology.
     
    Except that fads can be incredibly lucrative for doctors.
  78. @anonymous
    Angelina Jolie is reportedly giving her biological child Shiloh hormone treatments so as to transgender her to a boy. Supposedly as a toddler the child expressed the desire to go through life as a boy. Children this young can't possibly understand all this and are probably being prompted by the adults around them. Something like this should be illegal since there's a lack of adult ability to comprehend and consent. There's a lot of trend following screwy people out there.

    The hormone treatments are probably at least somewhat reversible but the real crimes will be when they start chopping off parts of minors . I’m (not) looking forward to the stories that these poor kids will write (and hopefully the indictments that will be brought) when they reach adulthood and realize how they have been abused and mutilated and this week’s fad has long faded.

    • Replies: @Thea
    The side effects of testosterone in females are not always reversible and leave them infertile, with permanent chest hair and other unpleasantness if they later decide they were wrong.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Like this? https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/884297236338819072/photo/1
  79. @Big Bill
    A hundred years ago, middle class white women we free to dress (decorate) infants and toddlers as they saw fit, even coiffing their hair in long ringlets. My grandfather looked like the perfect girl in his christening gown and golden curls.

    "Short pants" on boys were worn well into childhood. For a young boy in that era it was a rite of passage into the masculine world to receive his first pair of "long pants".

    It has always been difficult for women to surrender their darling baby boys to the society of men.

    @67 Big Bill: “It has always been difficult for women to surrender their darling baby boys to the society of men.”

    You’re correct that there’s no shortage of photos showing how f-d up mothers in the past attempted to subvert their sons, but I’d argue that’s merely because they were f-d up. I love both my boys, but I have no doubt that, if asked to list all my many flaws, refusing to let them grow up or trying to smother them would just never occur to them. I still recall when my older one (FWIW quite a risk taker and gun lover) was about 3 and took a shine to a pair of sparkly purple winter boots. I simply agreed they were a pretty color but told him they were for girls and that was the end of it. As an adult he wears black more often than not.

    I, on the other hand, still have the embroidered little girl’s dress I bought more than 25 years ago on a visit to Budapest, in hopes of the daughter that was never to be. It will abide.

  80. @SimpleSong
    Sperm counts have been dropping as well, which makes me think there is an environmental component, which may be in a feedback loop with culture.

    LBGTQXYZ is actually a very interesting, very thorny scientific problem, and I think many of them are unrelated phenomena. I think autism is probably similar in that it is really a bunch of separate syndromes with separate causes that are just linked together. Anyway my armchair theorizing:

    Male homosexuality--present from antiquity and in all cultures, correlated with number of older siblings. Not correlated with or 'cured' by serum testosterone or other sex hormones. Therefore likely not due to modern environmental or cultural influences. Likely explanation is a maternal immune issue to some fetal protein that directs sexual preferences in utero, mothers are sensitized to prior male gestations and then react to a subsequent gestation. This raises the possibility that there could be a prenatal test for homosexuality. Also, probably likely that male homosexuality itself is multifactorial given the heterogenous sexual preferences that male homosexuals display.

    Female homosexuality and bisexuality--appears much more malleable than male homosexuality (aka lesbians until graduation, BUGs, etc.) Long term lesbianism strongly correlated with failure to find a mate, or failure to find a mate that displays stronger masculine characteristics than the lesbian. Given this, appears to be essentially a normal female reaction to a particular environmental stimulus, and it actually would seem to be an adaptive behavior.

    Male bisexuality--unclear--mild case of male homosexuality?

    Transgenderism--probably part of a family of body dysmorphic disorder type mental illnesses, becoming more common due to rapid hormonal swings and the environmental presence of endocrine disruptors. Not really present in antiquity or in preindustrialized cultures so likely some environmental component, as well as a cultural component, which may be in a bit of a feedback loop at present.

    Not really present in antiquity or in preindustrialized cultures so likely some environmental component, as well as a cultural component, which may be in a bit of a feedback loop at present.

    Of course surgery and hormone treatments were not available in the past, but there are many instances in many cultures of women choosing to live as men or vice versa. There is really nothing new under the sun.

  81. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @SimpleSong
    Sperm counts have been dropping as well, which makes me think there is an environmental component, which may be in a feedback loop with culture.

    LBGTQXYZ is actually a very interesting, very thorny scientific problem, and I think many of them are unrelated phenomena. I think autism is probably similar in that it is really a bunch of separate syndromes with separate causes that are just linked together. Anyway my armchair theorizing:

    Male homosexuality--present from antiquity and in all cultures, correlated with number of older siblings. Not correlated with or 'cured' by serum testosterone or other sex hormones. Therefore likely not due to modern environmental or cultural influences. Likely explanation is a maternal immune issue to some fetal protein that directs sexual preferences in utero, mothers are sensitized to prior male gestations and then react to a subsequent gestation. This raises the possibility that there could be a prenatal test for homosexuality. Also, probably likely that male homosexuality itself is multifactorial given the heterogenous sexual preferences that male homosexuals display.

    Female homosexuality and bisexuality--appears much more malleable than male homosexuality (aka lesbians until graduation, BUGs, etc.) Long term lesbianism strongly correlated with failure to find a mate, or failure to find a mate that displays stronger masculine characteristics than the lesbian. Given this, appears to be essentially a normal female reaction to a particular environmental stimulus, and it actually would seem to be an adaptive behavior.

    Male bisexuality--unclear--mild case of male homosexuality?

    Transgenderism--probably part of a family of body dysmorphic disorder type mental illnesses, becoming more common due to rapid hormonal swings and the environmental presence of endocrine disruptors. Not really present in antiquity or in preindustrialized cultures so likely some environmental component, as well as a cultural component, which may be in a bit of a feedback loop at present.

    There have been past cultures where a “third gender” existed, so I’ve always wondered if any studies have been done on the percentage of the population in those populations versus modern ones; my understanding is that was mostly men who identified or declared as not male. This is of course complicated by cultures that strongly associated manliness with a certain set of virtues which naturally declined with age:

    Being used homosexually by another man was equated with cowardice because of the custom of sexual aggression against vanquished foes. This practice is documented in Sturlunga saga, most notably in Guðmundar saga dýra where Guðmundr takes captive a man and his wife, and plans for both the woman and the man to be raped as a means of sexual humiliation (Ok var þat við orð at leggja Þórunni í rekkju hjá einhverjum gárungi, en gera þat vi Bjôrn prest, at þat þætti eigi minni svívirðing.) (Sørenson 82, 111; Sturlunga saga, I, 201)…

    …It is interesting to note that the Vikings considered that old age caused a man to become argr(gay/feminine). A well-known proverb stated svá ergisk hverr sem eldisk, “everyone gets argr as he gets older.”

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    Yeah; I'm curious regarding whether in those 'third gender' cultures, the third gender people are mostly male homosexuals vs. gender dysphoria people, since they seem to be distinct populations.
  82. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @miss marple
    The statistic behind these statistics may be the number of women who really wanted a little girl but the stork brought a boy. Boys are not nearly as much fun for a woman to raise in terms of dressing them or styling their hair. Seems shallow, I know, though neutering is a slight improvement over infanticide.

    Come to think of it this may eventually become a solution for problematic relationships with adult males...

    Most people are familiar with men who get turned on by women’s sexy clothing items as a sexual fetish. But the public doesn’t really understand the full psychological dimensions of women who have a sexual fetish for women’s clothing. Most men just look at women who dress like prostitutes and think, oh, wow, that’s cool, that’s just great, and all analysis stops right there as male synapses fry.

    But nearly everyone feels uneasy when these women start dressing their very young daughters like skanks. People can tell there’s something wrong, but they can’t pin it down. But it’s just a mother who who has cunningly figured out a way to indulge in her sexual fetish by dressing a daughter like a prostitute. The mother gets sexually excited by seeing these clothing items on her daughter, and the stupid public has absolutely no idea about the mother’s motives.

    A good example is Patty Ramsey and her daughter JonBenet.

    • Replies: @Days of Broken Arrows
    "But it’s just a mother who who has cunningly figured out a way to indulge in her sexual fetish by dressing a daughter like a prostitute."

    Someone coined a word for this back in the late 1990s: "Prostitot."
    , @anonguy

    A good example is Patty Ramsey and her daughter JonBenet.
     
    There are few things that have creeped me out as much as the Ramsey family.

    What are you guys' theories on whodunnit?
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Anon, see my post, #64, about my daughter's paper on this topic. She is a psychologist. Your comment is spot on.
    , @Alden
    Slutty little girl clothes were a fad about 20 to 15 years ago. The higher power that decrees styles has gone back to pants and T shirts and boys jackets for girls.

    I’ve been buying girls clothes for daughters and grand daughters for 50 years now. The styles aren t driven by buyers preferences. Some Emperor of the clothing industry makes the decision. The big thing is to keep things changing constantly so people have to replace their wardrobes all the time.
  83. Another factor is that its simply a symptom of Rat Utopia, with an ever safer society gradually accumulating more and more small mutations that would have been rooted out earlier, exhibited by increasingly dysfunctional behavior in its residents.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    Good Point.

    "Rat Utopia" - l like that.

    , @reiner Tor
    That’s interesting. I’ve never heard of it, thanks for sharing.
  84. @Selvar
    Mostly social normalization of transgenderism+adolescent attention seeking leading borderline cases to identify with being "trans" instead of living normal lives. Similarly, I've seen data showing that, as homosexuality was accepted by society, the rate of homosexuality did not increase (much,) but the rate of bisexuality exploded. Again, borderline cases trying to advantageously position themselves in the new paradigm .

    The "Flight From White" is a similar phenomenon. Whites used to hide racial impurities in their bloodline. Now, every Tom, Dick, and Harry is trying to prove that they're 1/16th Native American/Negro or whatever so as to gain moral authority in the new order. A popular"Anti-SJW" liberal fellow named Sargon has recently been called out on it by the Alt Right (for the record: his parents are white as the driven snow.)

    I can buy that we are experiencing Flight from Lifelong Exclusive Heterosexuality and Flight from Clearly Demarcated Gender Dimorphism.

  85. @Big Bill
    How odd that the "Astrid Lindgren" hospital is treating these kids. Astrid Lindgren is the authoress/creator of "Pippi Longstocking". Pippi is the iconic tomboy in Miss Lindgren's famous series of children's books.

    How odd that the “Astrid Lindgren” hospital is treating these kids.

    It’s one of few (or perhaps the only?) private children’s hospitals in Sweden. Presumably coincidence, but it might be fun to point out to virtue signalers. (“And I assume Sven here is the negro king of the Southern Sea?”)

  86. @3g4me
    "For example, what if there is some new pollutant or parasite in the environment in recent years that is screwing with the brains and/or hormones of young people?"

    Chateau Heartiste has had a number of posts about the staggering drop in average testosterone among young American males. He and his commenters link it to the extensive use of soy additives in a huge range of commercial foods as well as the BCP in plastic. Here is a link to one such post.

    My perception is that girls / young women have lower pitched voices than they ever did before. I suppose this could be an observer bias – my high frequency hearing isn’t as good as it used to be – however, I believe there are some studies indicating this to be an actual phenomenon.

  87. @Dumbo
    I used to think that it was mostly single or divorced mothers, as (I thought) most self-respecting fathers wouldn't put up with their kids "changing sex". But then:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/24673/entire-family-transgender-amanda-prestigiacomo

    https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2017/08/10/parents-pimp-8-year-old-boy-as-drag-queen-lactatia/

    This is not the first time I came across this eight year old drag queen, but I still cannot believe that it’s true. Could it not be an elaborate hoax?

    • Replies: @CCZ
    Search for her on You Tube and you find that "she" is "real" (below just one of dozens and dozens):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYpe-aGY9Eg
  88. @Daniel Chieh
    Another factor is that its simply a symptom of Rat Utopia, with an ever safer society gradually accumulating more and more small mutations that would have been rooted out earlier, exhibited by increasingly dysfunctional behavior in its residents.

    Good Point.

    “Rat Utopia” – l like that.

    • Replies: @3g4me
    @90 Mr. Anon: "“Rat Utopia” – l like that."

    No disrespect to Daniel intended, but he didn't coin that (nor did he claim to). Mouse Utopia was an experiment conducted by American ethologist John Calhoun. Vdare links to it, as well as to a 2017 study re-examining it and comparing it to modern human society and damaging mutations. There's also a link in there to a Stefan Molyneux interview with the scientist responsible for the 2017 study. All fascinating and terrifyingly prophetic and worth your time.
  89. @3g4me
    "For example, what if there is some new pollutant or parasite in the environment in recent years that is screwing with the brains and/or hormones of young people?"

    Chateau Heartiste has had a number of posts about the staggering drop in average testosterone among young American males. He and his commenters link it to the extensive use of soy additives in a huge range of commercial foods as well as the BCP in plastic. Here is a link to one such post.

    I’d say it was the staggering drop in exercise, which makes the male body produce more testosterone.

  90. @Buffalo Joe
    Miss Marple, My daughter presented a paper on the sexualization of preteen girls by their mothers who want to live their lives again through their daughters. Make up, heels, adult under garments, jewelry, all age inappropriate. So, I think you are on to something.

    Would love to read that paper.

    There are some very odd pictures of a toddler Oscar Wilde dressed as a girl. I’m told that common in the Victorian era.

  91. @3g4me
    "For example, what if there is some new pollutant or parasite in the environment in recent years that is screwing with the brains and/or hormones of young people?"

    Chateau Heartiste has had a number of posts about the staggering drop in average testosterone among young American males. He and his commenters link it to the extensive use of soy additives in a huge range of commercial foods as well as the BCP in plastic. Here is a link to one such post.

    Do boys ( or men) who wish they were girls (or women) have lower than average testosterone levels?

    I’m not even sure homosexual men have lower T. Some do, obviously, but some are enormous muscle heads.

    • Replies: @3g4me
    @93 Ghost of Bull Moose: "Do boys ( or men) who wish they were girls (or women) have lower than average testosterone levels?"

    From what I've read, although testosterone levels can vary day by day, they have dropped precipitously over the last 40 years in America and the West in general. Heartist's most recent post about this was last November, when the cast of Buzzfeed (only one of whom is actually homosexual, I believe) were tested and found to have testosterone levels matching those of a healthy 12 year old boy (Link here). Lots of comments there go into a fair bit of detail about the prevalence and consequences of processed soy in the modern diet.

    In a March 2017 entry Heartiste linked to this study, which further details healthy levels and their precipitous decline.

  92. @notanon
    Maybe it's a bit of both - the narcissism-driven variety of virtue-signalling SJW jump onto bandwagons like this so they can virtue-signal how tolerant they are.

    (I've known women like that in the past who for example desperately wanted one of their sons to be gay so they could virtue-signal over it.)

    However I wonder if it might also somehow tie into the gay bug theory - maybe it isn't a bug but a hormone imbalance caused by something in the environment?

    There's been a number of studies into the cause of precocious female puberty but i don't know if anyone asked if something is doing this to the girls then what might it be doing to the boys?

    In the words of the prophet Alex Jones: "they're turning the frogs gay!"

    Obesity is one factor in precocious puberty but there may be others.

    Could obesity lead one to be unhappy in their body thus inducing beliefs they are the wrong sex?

    • Replies: @notanon

    Obesity is one factor in precocious puberty but there may be others.
     
    yeah - i'm wondering if the cause of the obesity is a hormonal imbalance leading to girls hitting puberty early and boys being feminized.

    it could be unrelated but something is causing a massive drop in sperm count.
  93. Oh for the love of God, enough already with the soy! This has nothing to do with phytoestrogens, which are harmless. Nor does it have anything to do with plastics, electromagnetic fields, or any other known or unknown physical influence.

    Why is it that this reported rise in childhood transgenderism—obviously a cultural phenomenon in every way, from the reporting itself (the Narrative), to the increasing interest in the subject (Sapir-Whorf), to the sympathy points (Munchausen by proxy), to the virtue signalling (it’s cool to LBGTQ)—sends many of you reaching for convoluted biochemical explanations as a matter of first resort? This is not simply a matter of being technically wrong, it’s also buying into the whole worldview of nihilism and materialistic nonsense that gives rise to the transgender problem in the first place.

    Questions of diet, of drugs and alcohol, an obsessive focus on exercise and healthcare, on “life improvement,” recreational intoxication, sport, teetotalism, vegetarianism—all this takes on an exaggerated importance in a dying culture that can find no better use for its people than to preen, worship, gratify, or destroy their own bodies. Transgenderism is just the latest fad in this Cult of the Body, but “explanations” for it hinging upon soy protein answer to the same general creed.

    As for the real explanation, I will guarantee you that almost all of this is attributable to silly, selfish, messed women seeking attention and “transgendering” their children in order to feed their own vanity. The remainder of it is attributable to silly, selfish, messed up women screwing up their kids so badly that the poor kids actually do think they’re supposed to be the opposite sex. As these kids grow up, many of them are going to realize that this is all nonsense and then they will turn on their parents and their parents’ whole generation with vehement but well justified wrath. Anybody who thinks it’s cool to be down with LGBTQ agenda ought to think very carefully about what will happen to them when the pendulum swings.

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson II
    Agree.
  94. @Jack D
    The hormone treatments are probably at least somewhat reversible but the real crimes will be when they start chopping off parts of minors . I'm (not) looking forward to the stories that these poor kids will write (and hopefully the indictments that will be brought) when they reach adulthood and realize how they have been abused and mutilated and this week's fad has long faded.

    The side effects of testosterone in females are not always reversible and leave them infertile, with permanent chest hair and other unpleasantness if they later decide they were wrong.

    • Replies: @Tinidril
    Yes, there is one regretful Youtuber, a poor young woman who now unfortunately retains a man's voice and facial stubble even though she has decided to "detransition". Interestingly, in one video she mentioned how bull dyke lesbians are now becoming rare on the gay dating scene because so many are adapting to the times and identifying as trans men. Apparently the peer pressure to conform to the new ideology is strong.
  95. @Almost Missouri
    Yes, and that doesn't even include the still not really defined effect of the constant, high-frequency electromagnetic radiation that almost everyone grows up bathed in now.

    Besides the cell phone snug against your pelvis, almost every living space in the first world is swathed in multiple overlapping wifi fields. And then there are the various other new forms of electromagnetic radiation that you are exposed to but you have no way to detect.

    The trillion dollar comms industry has a vested interest in your just accepting that all of that is fine and dandy. Occasionally (usually in Europe) a medical study crops up saying, hey maybe there is problem here, before it is buried under an industry-sponsored full spectrum attack.

    Maybe all of that stuff really is harmless, but good luck getting an objective appraisal.

    A lot of wifi routers and 4G phones broadcast at about the same frequency that microwave ovens use (2.45 Ghz), although the power is much lower than in a microwave. Then again, how many people pop something in the microwave and stand there looking at it at close range while it heats up. How much exposure do they get? There is some leakage from an oven.

    Those frequencies are non-ionizing, but what other physiological effects do they have? I don’t think we really know. As you say, there is no conclusive research that says they are bad. But likewise, there are wealthy and powerful interests invested in preventing any such research from being done.

  96. @miss marple
    The statistic behind these statistics may be the number of women who really wanted a little girl but the stork brought a boy. Boys are not nearly as much fun for a woman to raise in terms of dressing them or styling their hair. Seems shallow, I know, though neutering is a slight improvement over infanticide.

    Come to think of it this may eventually become a solution for problematic relationships with adult males...

    Back in the bad old days, male homosexuality was considered to be a bad thing. Most psychiatrists and psychologists blamed the Mothers for dressing the boys in girls clothes and keeping their hair long until they were ready for school.

    The other factor was blaming the mother for being dominant. Right up to 1970 that was the consensus as to the cause of homosexuality among the “experts”

    Blame the mother blame the mother.

  97. @Sax
    With regard to autism diagnoses soaring, there's also an incentive: an official diagnosis of autism grants access to services and supports in grade school that a struggling "weird kid" wouldn't qualify for.

    Yes, autism is basically an industry at this point and various special education services take up a huge portion of education funding. 11 billion dollars of the 68 billion dollars allotted for federal education spending in 2016 went to special ed….The percent of the budget going to special ed at local levels is no doubt even higher.

    A brave conservative politician would bring this up.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    A brave conservative politician would bring this up.
     
    Is there such a thing as a brave conservative politician?
  98. Son becomes daughter, daughter becomes son, father becomes mother, and mother becomes father, just a typical Arizona tranny family.

    http://kjzz.org/content/579197/growing-transgender-arizona-family-transition

    And 14 year old son becomes (sexualized [beginning at 1:01 of video]) daughter and mother becomes father:

    http://people.com/bodies/transgender-father-and-daughter-transition/

  99. @notanon
    Maybe it's a bit of both - the narcissism-driven variety of virtue-signalling SJW jump onto bandwagons like this so they can virtue-signal how tolerant they are.

    (I've known women like that in the past who for example desperately wanted one of their sons to be gay so they could virtue-signal over it.)

    However I wonder if it might also somehow tie into the gay bug theory - maybe it isn't a bug but a hormone imbalance caused by something in the environment?

    There's been a number of studies into the cause of precocious female puberty but i don't know if anyone asked if something is doing this to the girls then what might it be doing to the boys?

    In the words of the prophet Alex Jones: "they're turning the frogs gay!"

    Female puberty, the first ripe egg and menstruation is caused by the fat to muscle ratio.

    Back when malnourishment was wide spread in Europe, it was not uncommon for puberty to be delayed for poor girls until 17. During periods of famine the ovum just stay in the ovaries due to the lowered fat in the body and adult women become infertile.

    It’s good nutrition and obesity that’s causing female puberty at 10 and 9 instead of 12. What happens as we become more and more obese and girls start menstruation at 7?

  100. @peterike

    Humans have eaten bread for many thousands of years. Celiac used to be rare.
    If celiac disease, which is undeniably due to both the genetic predisposition AND the environmental cause of exposure to gluten, is exploding in frequency, SOMETHING in the environment has changed.

     

    I would guess it is somehow related to wheat mono-cultures. Wheat is nowhere near as diverse (well, diversity IS good in some areas!) or nutritious as it once was, as it's been bred for yield above all else. So maybe in the past people were getting all kinds of different wheat types and sub-types, so the body never overloaded on any one of them. Now we get a single type of wheat and it's everywhere, so possibly the body reacts to it like a toxin. Just too much of the same thing.

    There is also the question of iron toxicity, as in America at least wheat is stupidly fortified with iron. What does this do to you if you're exposed to this from birth?

    Thank you, yes. Cardiologist Dr. William Davis of wheatbellyblog.com says that today’s wheat, semi-dwarf wheat, developed by Norman Borlaug in his Green Revolution “solution” to “world hunger,” is virtually the only, higher than 90 percent, strain of wheat grown in America today.

  101. @Arclight
    I think this is less a case of parents inventing something than the kids themselves taking on the persona of a transgender person in order to gain attention or seem more interesting. It's the niche formerly occupied by Goths in middle/high schools.

    My neighbor has a couple of current high schoolers and his oldest graduated about 5 years ago. We were talking about the transgender issue and he said his oldest could not remember a single person in HS who claimed to be transgender but his current high school age kids know of a couple dozen who are basically their own clique.

    I am guessing most of these kids were not your average child in terms of temperament and interests who suddenly flipped but are mostly insecure and often depressed (often gay) kids who have found a new way to normalize the roller coaster of emotions and behaviors their parents have to put up with.

    Attention from parents, from peers, lots of drama…

    Kids hear about other kids doing bad stuff and start doing it themselves. For kicks.

    When I was in high school, it was anorexia/bulimia. Eating disorders were ubiquitous. Girls heard about other girls making themselves vomit after eating, getting really skinny, and said, I have got to try that.

    We didn’t have any kids cutting themselves, but a few years later that became a big thing. Apparently a lot of kids a few years ahead of our class were into huffing solvents and paint or something.

    People grow out of stuff, but it’s really hard if you’re an anorexic and people keep telling you, ‘You’re right, you really could stand to lose a few pounds.’

    • Replies: @Stan Adams

    People grow out of stuff, but it’s really hard if you’re an anorexic and people keep telling you, ‘You’re right, you really could stand to lose a few pounds.’
     
    I'm not a woman, but in my experience, people don't tell girls who look like Dachau laborers that they need to lose a few pounds.

    (Then again, maybe the anorexics all hang out together and fat-shame each other. "Carly, you look great! You're only one or two bouts of stomach flu away from perfection!")

    These days, there are lots of women waddling around who could stand to lose a few *dozen* pounds, or even a few *hundred* pounds. Whoever is fat-shaming these women isn't doing a particularly good job.
  102. @Anon
    Most people are familiar with men who get turned on by women's sexy clothing items as a sexual fetish. But the public doesn't really understand the full psychological dimensions of women who have a sexual fetish for women's clothing. Most men just look at women who dress like prostitutes and think, oh, wow, that's cool, that's just great, and all analysis stops right there as male synapses fry.

    But nearly everyone feels uneasy when these women start dressing their very young daughters like skanks. People can tell there's something wrong, but they can't pin it down. But it's just a mother who who has cunningly figured out a way to indulge in her sexual fetish by dressing a daughter like a prostitute. The mother gets sexually excited by seeing these clothing items on her daughter, and the stupid public has absolutely no idea about the mother's motives.

    A good example is Patty Ramsey and her daughter JonBenet.

    “But it’s just a mother who who has cunningly figured out a way to indulge in her sexual fetish by dressing a daughter like a prostitute.”

    Someone coined a word for this back in the late 1990s: “Prostitot.”

  103. @Jake
    Ideas have consequences. Feminism's consequences include an epidemic of divorce and remarriage, a very low birthrate, gay sex romanticized and then virtually deified, and, in the final stage, an epidemic of tranniness that will usher in a Pederasty culture that reigns supreme.

    As I remember, the gay rights movement was always led by gay men lesbians just went along with it. And heterosexual women had nothing to do with it.

  104. @3g4me
    "For example, what if there is some new pollutant or parasite in the environment in recent years that is screwing with the brains and/or hormones of young people?"

    Chateau Heartiste has had a number of posts about the staggering drop in average testosterone among young American males. He and his commenters link it to the extensive use of soy additives in a huge range of commercial foods as well as the BCP in plastic. Here is a link to one such post.

    Recent tests of the meat in Subways sandwiches shows some of the meat like turkey chicken, salami baloney were 50 percent soy. The ham roast beef had less.

    Hamburger meat and that health food ground turkey is often filed with soy granules.

    • Replies: @notanon
    yes, processed food is full of the stuff
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    Recent tests of the meat in Subways sandwiches shows some of the meat like turkey chicken, salami baloney were 50 percent soy. The ham roast beef had less.
     
    Reference please. And did they test Jimmie John's?
  105. @Buzz Mohawk

    ...what if there is some new pollutant or parasite in the environment in recent years that is screwing with the brains and/or hormones of young people?
     
    It may not be that, exactly. It may be the overwhelming prevalence now of electronic distractions, rapid digital editing, fast, jumpy music. Smart phones, computers and big screens channeling attacks on peace-of-mind and the ability to contemplate.

    Every new human now grows from infancy inside a barrage of video and sound, the likes of which nobody ever in history did before.

    If you believe that human outcomes are 50/50% nature/nurture, then you must wonder how all this new crap effects the outcomes for at least some new humans.

    Quite simply, what we now call "tech" is driving a significant percentage of our kids crazy.

    A lot of tech is toxic to children still in the developmental stage and they should not be exposed to it. Maybe after 12 or so, even then they must stay away from Social Media because it’s designed to get children and even hooked on it like a drug. Zuckerberg’s chief engineer all but admitted it.

    Funny story, there is a Montessori school in Silicon Valley that is loaded with the kids of the digital elite. Guess what they aren’t allowed to have any electronic devices.

    In terms of studies, they are out there and they point to very negative consequences for children using it. Amazon has plenty of books on it. “Idisorder” is just one of many.

  106. @Anon
    Most people are familiar with men who get turned on by women's sexy clothing items as a sexual fetish. But the public doesn't really understand the full psychological dimensions of women who have a sexual fetish for women's clothing. Most men just look at women who dress like prostitutes and think, oh, wow, that's cool, that's just great, and all analysis stops right there as male synapses fry.

    But nearly everyone feels uneasy when these women start dressing their very young daughters like skanks. People can tell there's something wrong, but they can't pin it down. But it's just a mother who who has cunningly figured out a way to indulge in her sexual fetish by dressing a daughter like a prostitute. The mother gets sexually excited by seeing these clothing items on her daughter, and the stupid public has absolutely no idea about the mother's motives.

    A good example is Patty Ramsey and her daughter JonBenet.

    A good example is Patty Ramsey and her daughter JonBenet.

    There are few things that have creeped me out as much as the Ramsey family.

    What are you guys’ theories on whodunnit?

  107. @J.Ross
    I am not aware of any equivalent phenomenon in the still famously masculine Muslim, black and mestizo worlds. I am not seeing stories about the PLA or IDF struggling to fill combat roles. This seems to only be happening to one group of people.
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    These are American communities, how many Saudis or Sudanese overseas do this?
  108. @Bill
    Not just tech. Empty suburbs. Wildly unstable social groups and absence of family courtesy of "high labor mobility." Absent and absent even when present parents. There's no need to go for chemicals as an explanation.

    But White suburbs full of hardworking parents who work weekends and get home late don’t produce the retarded school dropout criminals in and out of juvenile courts do they?

    No, the White kids go to school, graduate and go to college and get jobs.

    The black neighborhoods full of stay at home moms produce school dropout retards in and out of the juvenile courts who become criminals don’t they ?

    The stay at home mom and dad around all weekend and home at 6 every night able to help with 2 hours of homework has disappeared along with the 40 hour week and one income family.

  109. @reiner Tor
    This is not the first time I came across this eight year old drag queen, but I still cannot believe that it’s true. Could it not be an elaborate hoax?

    Search for her on You Tube and you find that “she” is “real” (below just one of dozens and dozens):

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    I wrote “elaborate” hoax. But yes, it’s just me wishing it just wasn’t true, of course it’s real.
  110. @Almost Missouri
    There is also a financial incentive. Nowadays, if you can get a physician to give your kid a hard diagnosis of a handicap like "autism", you can access a variety of school district, government or even private funding programs for your kid. Who doesn't like to have someone else's money spent on their kid? Since autism is the most fashionable diagnosis, per the above-mentioned Temple Grandin Effect, it is the diagnosis that parents of handicapped or somehow awkward kids will lobby for most.

    Plus, you can get the $800 a month disability money. That’s a big incentive.

  111. @Neoconned
    Steve your term for this "World War T" makes me fall over laughing...

    You may not be interested in World War T, but World War T is interested in you and yours.

  112. @The Z Blog
    I would be curious to see the numbers on peanut allergies. There was a time when every kid was afraid of his food, with peanuts being the great Satan of foodstuffs. I can't remember the last time I heard someone talking about peanut allergies. The more sober minded Progressives claimed it was the use of peanut oil in diapers, but that was always a bit specious.

    I remember that liberal cause. Some state health departments wanted Chinese restaurants to substitute corn or soybean oil for the traditional peanut oil

  113. Call me old but I remember the time when wanting to cut off your dick was considered crazy, not transgender.

  114. @J.Ross
    I am not aware of any equivalent phenomenon in the still famously masculine Muslim, black and mestizo worlds. I am not seeing stories about the PLA or IDF struggling to fill combat roles. This seems to only be happening to one group of people.

    Because they don’t put up with batshit crazy wives and females in general who want to destroy boys.

    Make no mistake, a lot of this is a result of men letting their wives do as they please. Mostly it’s confined to upper middle class college educated white women who were exposed to toxic levels of feminazi and Post Modern thinking.

    Look mom’s don’t wake up one day and decide to change their little boy into a freak. Someone had to poison their mind over a period of years that sexual deviancy is the norm. The only place that happens is in college. It’s socially isolated enough to easily be seen as cult indoctrination center.

  115. @SimpleSong
    Sperm counts have been dropping as well, which makes me think there is an environmental component, which may be in a feedback loop with culture.

    LBGTQXYZ is actually a very interesting, very thorny scientific problem, and I think many of them are unrelated phenomena. I think autism is probably similar in that it is really a bunch of separate syndromes with separate causes that are just linked together. Anyway my armchair theorizing:

    Male homosexuality--present from antiquity and in all cultures, correlated with number of older siblings. Not correlated with or 'cured' by serum testosterone or other sex hormones. Therefore likely not due to modern environmental or cultural influences. Likely explanation is a maternal immune issue to some fetal protein that directs sexual preferences in utero, mothers are sensitized to prior male gestations and then react to a subsequent gestation. This raises the possibility that there could be a prenatal test for homosexuality. Also, probably likely that male homosexuality itself is multifactorial given the heterogenous sexual preferences that male homosexuals display.

    Female homosexuality and bisexuality--appears much more malleable than male homosexuality (aka lesbians until graduation, BUGs, etc.) Long term lesbianism strongly correlated with failure to find a mate, or failure to find a mate that displays stronger masculine characteristics than the lesbian. Given this, appears to be essentially a normal female reaction to a particular environmental stimulus, and it actually would seem to be an adaptive behavior.

    Male bisexuality--unclear--mild case of male homosexuality?

    Transgenderism--probably part of a family of body dysmorphic disorder type mental illnesses, becoming more common due to rapid hormonal swings and the environmental presence of endocrine disruptors. Not really present in antiquity or in preindustrialized cultures so likely some environmental component, as well as a cultural component, which may be in a bit of a feedback loop at present.

    With 2 or even 1 child families the norm, shouldn’t make gays start to disappear?

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    Correlated with # of older brothers, but not a terribly strong correlation. Appears to be a real phenomenon, but not very strong. Hence even if everyone had singletons you will still have gay males, although they should be a slightly smaller percentage than societies with larger family sizes. The fact that the correlation is pretty weak suggests to me that there are likely other possible mechanisms leading to homosexuality in men.

    Interestingly, in the case of adoptees, odds of being a male homosexual is correlated with number of older brothers from the birth mother, but not correlated with number of older brothers in the adopted family, which seems to rule out any sort of environmental effect of growing up with lots of brothers. It appears to be something in utero.
  116. @Jake
    Steve,

    Your suggestions sound so calm and rationale, so focused on finding actual causes and using that sound information to help people. But the fact is that you think like a traditional white male. Which means you think 24/7 with racism, sexism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, and transgendersism always front and center.

    And thus, when you say something that seems factual, logical, reasonable, fair, deductive, analytical, you actually are passing your deep-seated hatreds onto the unwary public by dressing them in drag.

    You are a tricky one. Not to be trusted a hair or half second.

    The Pod fils has your number.

    Jake,

    You are trying to justify the ethnic cleansing of “Whites.”

    You are evil.

  117. @notanon
    Maybe it's a bit of both - the narcissism-driven variety of virtue-signalling SJW jump onto bandwagons like this so they can virtue-signal how tolerant they are.

    (I've known women like that in the past who for example desperately wanted one of their sons to be gay so they could virtue-signal over it.)

    However I wonder if it might also somehow tie into the gay bug theory - maybe it isn't a bug but a hormone imbalance caused by something in the environment?

    There's been a number of studies into the cause of precocious female puberty but i don't know if anyone asked if something is doing this to the girls then what might it be doing to the boys?

    In the words of the prophet Alex Jones: "they're turning the frogs gay!"

    When I was a young mother the virtue signaling was all about denying kids sugar, ice cream cookies and dressing the girls in in boys clothes.

    Pink was so rare in girls clothes that I actually had to buy pink fabric and make pink dresses for the girls.

    Child raising fads come and go. In the early 20th century it was feeding even new born babies only every 4 hours even if they screamed in hunger.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    When Did Girls Start Wearing Pink?

    Every generation brings a new definition of masculinity and femininity that manifests itself in children’s dress

    Pink and blue arrived as colors for babies in the mid-19th century; yet, the two colors were not promoted as gender signifiers until just before World War I. (© Jaroon/iStock)

    By Jeanne Maglaty
    smithsonian.com

    April 7, 2011

    Little Franklin Delano Roosevelt sits primly on a stool, his white skirt spread smoothly over his lap, his hands clasping a hat trimmed with a marabou feather. Shoulder-length hair and patent leather party shoes complete the ensemble.

    We find the look unsettling today, yet social convention of 1884, when FDR was photographed at age 2 1/2, dictated that boys wore dresses until age 6 or 7, also the time of their first haircut. Franklin’s outfit was considered gender-neutral.

    But nowadays people just have to know the sex of a baby or young child at first glance, says Jo B. Paoletti, a historian at the University of Maryland and author of Pink and Blue: Telling the Girls From the Boys in America, to be published later this year. Thus we see, for example, a pink headband encircling the bald head of an infant girl.

    Why have young children’s clothing styles changed so dramatically? How did we end up with two “teams”—boys in blue and girls in pink?

    “It’s really a story of what happened to neutral clothing,” says Paoletti, who has explored the meaning of children’s clothing for 30 years. For centuries, she says, children wore dainty white dresses up to age 6. “What was once a matter of practicality—you dress your baby in white dresses and diapers; white cotton can be bleached—became a matter of ‘Oh my God, if I dress my baby in the wrong thing, they’ll grow up perverted,’ ” Paoletti says.

    The march toward gender-specific clothes was neither linear nor rapid. Pink and blue arrived, along with other pastels, as colors for babies in the mid-19th century, yet the two colors were not promoted as gender signifiers until just before World War I—and even then, it took time for popular culture to sort things out.

    For example, a June 1918 article from the trade publication Earnshaw's Infants' Department said, “The generally accepted rule is pink for the boys, and blue for the girls. The reason is that pink, being a more decided and stronger color, is more suitable for the boy, while blue, which is more delicate and dainty, is prettier for the girl.” Other sources said blue was flattering for blonds, pink for brunettes; or blue was for blue-eyed babies, pink for brown-eyed babies, according to Paoletti.

    In 1927, Time magazine printed a chart showing sex-appropriate colors for girls and boys according to leading U.S. stores. In Boston, Filene’s told parents to dress boys in pink. So did Best & Co. in New York City, Halle’s in Cleveland and Marshall Field in Chicago.

    Today’s color dictate wasn’t established until the 1940s, as a result of Americans’ preferences as interpreted by manufacturers and retailers. “It could have gone the other way,” Paoletti says.

    So the baby boomers were raised in gender-specific clothing. Boys dressed like their fathers, girls like their mothers. Girls had to wear dresses to school, though unadorned styles and tomboy play clothes were acceptable.

    When the women’s liberation movement arrived in the mid-1960s, with its anti-feminine, anti-fashion message, the unisex look became the rage—but completely reversed from the time of young Franklin Roosevelt. Now young girls were dressing in masculine—or at least unfeminine—styles, devoid of gender hints. Paoletti found that in the 1970s, the Sears, Roebuck catalog pictured no pink toddler clothing for two years.

    “One of the ways [feminists] thought that girls were kind of lured into subservient roles as women is through clothing,” says Paoletti. “ ‘If we dress our girls more like boys and less like frilly little girls . . . they are going to have more options and feel freer to be active.’ ”

    John Money, a sexual identity researcher at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, argued that gender was primarily learned through social and environmental cues. “This was one of the drivers back in the ’70s of the argument that it’s ‘nurture not nature,’ ” Paoletti says.

    Gender-neutral clothing remained popular until about 1985. Paoletti remembers that year distinctly because it was between the births of her children, a girl in ’82 and a boy in ’86. “All of a sudden it wasn’t just a blue overall; it was a blue overall with a teddy bear holding a football,” she says. Disposable diapers were manufactured in pink and blue.

    Prenatal testing was a big reason for the change. Expectant parents learned the sex of their unborn baby and then went shopping for “girl” or “boy” merchandise. (“The more you individualize clothing, the more you can sell,” Paoletti says.) The pink fad spread from sleepers and crib sheets to big-ticket items such as strollers, car seats and riding toys. Affluent parents could conceivably decorate for baby No. 1, a girl, and start all over when the next child was a boy.

    Some young mothers who grew up in the 1980s deprived of pinks, lace, long hair and Barbies, Paoletti suggests, rejected the unisex look for their own daughters. “Even if they are still feminists, they are perceiving those things in a different light than the baby boomer feminists did,” she says. “They think even if they want their girl to be a surgeon, there’s nothing wrong if she is a very feminine surgeon.”

    Another important factor has been the rise of consumerism among children in recent decades. According to child development experts, children are just becoming conscious of their gender between ages 3 and 4, and they do not realize it’s permanent until age 6 or 7. At the same time, however, they are the subjects of sophisticated and pervasive advertising that tends to reinforce social conventions. “So they think, for example, that what makes someone female is having long hair and a dress,’’ says Paoletti. “They are so interested—and they are so adamant in their likes and dislikes.”

    In researching and writing her book, Paoletti says, she kept thinking about the parents of children who don’t conform to gender roles: Should they dress their children to conform, or allow them to express themselves in their dress? “One thing I can say now is that I’m not real keen on the gender binary—the idea that you have very masculine and very feminine things. The loss of neutral clothing is something that people should think more about. And there is a growing demand for neutral clothing for babies and toddlers now, too.”

    “There is a whole community out there of parents and kids who are struggling with ‘My son really doesn’t want to wear boy clothes, prefers to wear girl clothes.’ ” She hopes one audience for her book will be people who study gender clinically. The fashion world may have divided children into pink and blue, but in the world of real individuals, not all is black and white.

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/when-did-girls-start-wearing-pink-1370097/
  118. @MikeatMikedotMike
    " For example, what if there is some new pollutant or parasite in the environment in recent years that is screwing with the brains and/or hormones of young people? I don’t have any evidence that there is, but it seems like a possibility that we at least ought to entertain."

    Estrogen and other female hormones getting into the drinking water from an abundance of birth control pills? I have seen this theory before. Can't speak to the validity of it though.

    Mike, I have a friend who is a plumber, everyone should have one. He told me that the build up of undissolved pharmaceuticals in plumbing, through urine, is unbelievable. There are studies about meds in the water supply effecting Great Lakes fish, so there’s that.

  119. @Big Bill
    A hundred years ago, middle class white women we free to dress (decorate) infants and toddlers as they saw fit, even coiffing their hair in long ringlets. My grandfather looked like the perfect girl in his christening gown and golden curls.

    "Short pants" on boys were worn well into childhood. For a young boy in that era it was a rite of passage into the masculine world to receive his first pair of "long pants".

    It has always been difficult for women to surrender their darling baby boys to the society of men.

    Big Bill, I am 72 yrs old now. When my youngest grandson was Christened 6 yrs ago, he wore my Christening gown, as had my son and his son. I have a black and white photo of my father, two of his brothers and one of their cousins , all in knickers. Not quite ready for long pants.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    I’m 53 and likewise have pictures of my dad in knickers. And my mom saved about a 1/2 dozen christening gowns from her grandfather, father, etc. It cost like $500 to clean these yellowing heirlooms and each of my 3 kids (2 boys) wore one. My in-laws are from Latvia and Belarus. They found the whole thing pretty weird but there are some great shots of my father-in-law holding the boys at christenings. They look a little Little Lord Fauntleroy.
  120. @Anon
    Most people are familiar with men who get turned on by women's sexy clothing items as a sexual fetish. But the public doesn't really understand the full psychological dimensions of women who have a sexual fetish for women's clothing. Most men just look at women who dress like prostitutes and think, oh, wow, that's cool, that's just great, and all analysis stops right there as male synapses fry.

    But nearly everyone feels uneasy when these women start dressing their very young daughters like skanks. People can tell there's something wrong, but they can't pin it down. But it's just a mother who who has cunningly figured out a way to indulge in her sexual fetish by dressing a daughter like a prostitute. The mother gets sexually excited by seeing these clothing items on her daughter, and the stupid public has absolutely no idea about the mother's motives.

    A good example is Patty Ramsey and her daughter JonBenet.

    Anon, see my post, #64, about my daughter’s paper on this topic. She is a psychologist. Your comment is spot on.

  121. @27 year old
    Occam's razor to me says that modern lifestyles, technology and media bombardment are making more and more people schizophrenic. While simultaneously, massive incentives have been created for people to classify their schizophrenia as transgenderism.

    I think between government operations like MK-Ultra and cynical capitalist research, a lot of time and effort have been spent to make us crazy, so we will be better consumers and more subservient employees, dutiful taxpayers, good anticommunists etc. And on top of this has been layered a ton of other stuff that makes people crazy. Makework jobs, economic insecurity, smartphones, etc

    Transgenderism has been made a convinient "out" for this created mental illness - to let people deny that they have "a problem". You're not insane, you are transgender. And not only do you get an ego saving explanation, you also get cash and prizes (free or reduced drugs and psychotherapy) and a massive well funded worldwide support network. And from then on any interaction which doesn't go your way, is a potential lucrative lawsuit/settlement. I hate to say this but incentives matter.

    This does not discount other more complicated factors like chemicals in the water supply or etc. I buy that stuff too, I just don't understand it.

    During the 1950’s and ’60’s, the U.S. government built huge housing projects for the poorest segment of urban America. While the intention of the projects was to provide good housing for the poor, it soon became apparent that these projects became the centers of the worst imaginable crime, including drug dealing and drive by killings.

    Recently, it was decided to move people out of these projects, bull doze them and place residents in more user friendly communities that are smaller and more attractive.

    Then, something surprising happened. Many of the dwellers complained that they did not want to move. How is this possible? While the protesters are few in number they make a valid point that families have now lived there for decades, formed close friendships, built a real sense of community cohesiveness, protected one another and came to feel fond of the environment. No one asked them if they wanted to move. Perhaps this is symptomatic of something that has gone wrong today, not only in the United States but all around the world.

    It has been my observation that more individuals than ever before are coming to the office because of feelings of loneliness, isolation and desolation. Some of these patients report feeling they have an inner void numbness.

    Judging From These Examples, Has the world become Schizoid?

    https://www.mentalhelp.net/blogs/does-the-modern-world-promote-schizoid-personality-disorder/

    • Replies: @Alden
    I have a cure for that emotional problem

    Maybe blacks could find and buy or rent their own housing instead of depending on HUD to find homes for them.

    Does HUD have workers who will pack for these prople, take them for their new homes, unpack, make the beds and arrange all the cupboards and closets?

    Does HUD leave them a casserole for the first night dinner in their home?
    , @Daniel H
    >>Many of the dwellers complained that they did not want to move. How is this possible? .....

    This is true. Many of the inhabitants of urban public housing, no matter how crime-ridden the housing is, don't want to be moved 200 miles away to some abandoned mill town in the middle of nowhere, but the Rahm Emanuels and Michael Bloombergs of the world, and their real estate developer buddies want them moved, for their own good, of course. Whose will will win out - do you think - in this contest?
  122. @Anon7
    I’m going to throw out one more possibility, one which will probably be offensive to many conservative readers. Human beings are not a special creation, they are just another of the many species that have evolved here on Earth. The mechanics of biological creation are not perfect; reproduction does not create uniform humans. The binary nature of human beings, hetero males and females, is not perfectly replicated. Don’t get me wrong: it’s really well implemented, probably 99ish percent on the money. But it’s not perfect. Read the article for speculation about what might be different in the current era, in the environment or in the culture, that gets us to this problem. But truthfully, we’ve always had this problem.

    What to do about it? I’d suggest what has worked in past centuries. Let the people of small towns and rural areas pretend that it doesn’t exist. Let the people who feel they are different gravitate to big cities, where they will find people like themselves. Let the cosmopolitan people of big cities feel that they are superior in their acceptance of people who are different, and let them think it is much more common than it really is.

    What you do NOT want to do is set up a national authority that tells everyone what they can do and what they can believe and who can use what bathroom in every tiny town and school and church in America. And if the cosmopolitan elites don’t agree, tell them that’s one way you get to Trump. That might just shut them up.

    The cosmopolitan elites are the ones who are driving all of this insanity. They’re the ones who are ramming tranny-lib down everyone’s throats. (Do you honestly believe that high-school principals in rural North Carolina were the ones who created the bathroom controversy? There wouldn’t even be a controversy if it weren’t for the whackjobs in the coastal enclaves.) No one has the luxury of pretending that trannies doesn’t exist when folks are being persecuted (and prosecuted) for not going along with the program.

    SJWs always double down. If you tell them that Trump was elected because normal Americans are sick and tired of the immivasion/BLM/WWT freak show, they don’t think, “Oh, yes, you’re absolutely right! We need to back off!” They think, “We must work overtime to destroy Trump! The bigoted sheep must pay for their disobedience! Anyone who opposes us must be destroyed! Nothing can stand in our way! We must prevail!”

    In 2004, gay marriage lost in every state where it was on the ballot. (As late as 2008, Obama felt compelled to pretend to oppose it.) Faced with such overwhelming defeat, did the SJWs give up? Nope. They made gay marriage a holy crusade. “We’re on the right side of history!” became their battle cry. The activist left was fanatically devoted to the cause, and the “mainstream” left was supportive; many if not most “conservatives” were fair-weather traditionalists (at best) who were only too willing to capitulate in face of an unrelenting onslaught. The gay-marriage agitators pushed and pushed and pushed until their opponents threw up their hands and shrieked, “Fine! We’re sick of hearing about it! We’ll give you what you want!” By 2012, the tide had turned decisively.

    The same thing happened with tranny rights.

    If you believe that you can sit down with these people and have a rational discussion with them, then you are hopelessly naive. You can’t negotiate with nuts. They will not hesitate to destroy anyone who disagrees with them. If you don’t have the stomach for that kind of a fight, then you should be prepared to lose.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    Don't forget the incessant media propaganda, from all angles. One stupid television show was enough to make conservative women think, "oh, they're all so cute. And if they really looooove each other, well..."

    The NBA, of all crowds, had PSA's of how awful it was to say "that's so gay" as a put down.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    And it's not like the Left actually gave a damn about the T's. It was all about rubbing the Deplorables nose in something they did not like. A pure exercise of power.
  123. @Daniel Chieh
    Another factor is that its simply a symptom of Rat Utopia, with an ever safer society gradually accumulating more and more small mutations that would have been rooted out earlier, exhibited by increasingly dysfunctional behavior in its residents.

    That’s interesting. I’ve never heard of it, thanks for sharing.

  124. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @miss marple
    The statistic behind these statistics may be the number of women who really wanted a little girl but the stork brought a boy. Boys are not nearly as much fun for a woman to raise in terms of dressing them or styling their hair. Seems shallow, I know, though neutering is a slight improvement over infanticide.

    Come to think of it this may eventually become a solution for problematic relationships with adult males...

    There are some feminists who are quite open about their desire not to have a male child.

    These people often have a binary and extremely moralistic view of Oppressor and Oppressed. They may actually prefer that their children be ‘oppressed’ — it’s more edifying in some ways than being the ‘oppressor’.

    If your sub-culture celebrates the downtrodden outsider it’s actually kind of a downer when you have a healthy, straight, successful child — that isn’t what mommy wants at all.

    It’s kooky, but there really are people like this out there. Probably at least a 100 odd in Sweden.

  125. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Attention from parents, from peers, lots of drama...

    Kids hear about other kids doing bad stuff and start doing it themselves. For kicks.

    When I was in high school, it was anorexia/bulimia. Eating disorders were ubiquitous. Girls heard about other girls making themselves vomit after eating, getting really skinny, and said, I have got to try that.

    We didn't have any kids cutting themselves, but a few years later that became a big thing. Apparently a lot of kids a few years ahead of our class were into huffing solvents and paint or something.

    People grow out of stuff, but it's really hard if you're an anorexic and people keep telling you, 'You're right, you really could stand to lose a few pounds.'

    People grow out of stuff, but it’s really hard if you’re an anorexic and people keep telling you, ‘You’re right, you really could stand to lose a few pounds.’

    I’m not a woman, but in my experience, people don’t tell girls who look like Dachau laborers that they need to lose a few pounds.

    (Then again, maybe the anorexics all hang out together and fat-shame each other. “Carly, you look great! You’re only one or two bouts of stomach flu away from perfection!”)

    These days, there are lots of women waddling around who could stand to lose a few *dozen* pounds, or even a few *hundred* pounds. Whoever is fat-shaming these women isn’t doing a particularly good job.

    • Replies: @Lars Porsena
    If an anorexic woman self identifies as a fat person born in an emaciated person's body then that's her own truth. You have no right to tell them they can't diet.
    , @Alden
    The anorexia fad was totally media driven. They discovered something incredibly rare and made a big deal of it. Some girls tried it, but had a hard time refusing food.

    But then the liberals discovered that a low protein high carb diet prevented heart attacks, was the way to perfect health and saved Mother Earth. Everyone followed that diet and obesity became the norm
    , @oddsbodkins
    "(Then again, maybe the anorexics all hang out together and fat-shame each other. “Carly, you look great! You’re only one or two bouts of stomach flu away from perfection!”)"

    They do. It's called Pro-ana.
  126. “There’s a quite strong correlation between being on the autism spectrum and transgenderism.”

    What is your basis for this statement? Why do you believe this?

  127. @Hippopotamusdrome
    Banned transphobic comedy skit from SNL...


    SNL: Girl-Crazy Obstetrician

    Reporter: Now, I understand you've been working and practicing here in Radfield for 21 years. ... And you've delivered over 4,300 babies. ... And they've all been girls. ... It's like a miracle. Not one single boy. ...

    Obstetrician: Louise? Would you send in the Carters, please? ... Hello, Janet, Ted!

    Ted Carter: He delivered all seven of our daughters.

    Obstetrician: Well, I have the results of your amniocentesis right here, and I've.. got some good news. Everything's fine, the baby's healthy.

    Ted Carter: Dr. Hoffritz? Is it a boy?

    Obstetrician: Well, no. It's a girl.

    Janet Carter: You see, Ted wants a boy. This is our eighth try.

    Ted Carter: Doctor, will this one need that operation?

    Obstetrician: Yes, I'm afraid so.

    Reporter: [ curious ] What operation is this, Doctor?

    Obstetrician: Well.. every now and then, a little girl is born with a penis and testicles. And, of course, they have to be removed and reshaped.

    Ted Carter: It's quite routine. Five of our seven daughters have had this operation.

    Reporter: Doctor, what percent of the babies that you deliver need this operation?

    Obstetrician: Oh, I'd say.. 48, 49.. 50, 51% - in that area!

    Reporter: [ bothered ] Dr. Hoffritz, can't you see what you're doing here? I mean, the 48-51% - they're not girls, they're little boys! You have mutilated over 2,000 little boys!

    Obstetrician: No! No, they weren't boys. They were little girls.. trapped in little boys' bodies.. [ music sweeps over him ] You see.. boys are.. bad. They have bad thoughts! Sometimes they disobey their mothers.. they have to be punished! [ sniffles ] But what do their mothers know, anyway.. [ weeping ] They're out all night with "Uncle Rudy"! But he's not my uncle! Why does she call him my "uncle"..? [ falls to the floor, crying ]

    Announcer: This week in People, meet girl-crazy Dr. Jacob Hoffritz, the one in a trillion obstretrician whose favorite color just has to be pink! Only in People!

     

    This actually happened to a Canadian man who as an infant suffered a botched circumcision and was then turned over to a respected quack believer in blank slatism.

  128. @jimmyriddle
    Mostly crazy mothers.

    There was a case in England last year in which a 6 year-old boy was being sent to school in a dress.

    His father was given custody and within hours the whole situation was resolved. The kid was wearing boys' clothes and playing football.

    Association or American?

  129. @Stan Adams

    People grow out of stuff, but it’s really hard if you’re an anorexic and people keep telling you, ‘You’re right, you really could stand to lose a few pounds.’
     
    I'm not a woman, but in my experience, people don't tell girls who look like Dachau laborers that they need to lose a few pounds.

    (Then again, maybe the anorexics all hang out together and fat-shame each other. "Carly, you look great! You're only one or two bouts of stomach flu away from perfection!")

    These days, there are lots of women waddling around who could stand to lose a few *dozen* pounds, or even a few *hundred* pounds. Whoever is fat-shaming these women isn't doing a particularly good job.

    If an anorexic woman self identifies as a fat person born in an emaciated person’s body then that’s her own truth. You have no right to tell them they can’t diet.

  130. @SimpleSong
    Sperm counts have been dropping as well, which makes me think there is an environmental component, which may be in a feedback loop with culture.

    LBGTQXYZ is actually a very interesting, very thorny scientific problem, and I think many of them are unrelated phenomena. I think autism is probably similar in that it is really a bunch of separate syndromes with separate causes that are just linked together. Anyway my armchair theorizing:

    Male homosexuality--present from antiquity and in all cultures, correlated with number of older siblings. Not correlated with or 'cured' by serum testosterone or other sex hormones. Therefore likely not due to modern environmental or cultural influences. Likely explanation is a maternal immune issue to some fetal protein that directs sexual preferences in utero, mothers are sensitized to prior male gestations and then react to a subsequent gestation. This raises the possibility that there could be a prenatal test for homosexuality. Also, probably likely that male homosexuality itself is multifactorial given the heterogenous sexual preferences that male homosexuals display.

    Female homosexuality and bisexuality--appears much more malleable than male homosexuality (aka lesbians until graduation, BUGs, etc.) Long term lesbianism strongly correlated with failure to find a mate, or failure to find a mate that displays stronger masculine characteristics than the lesbian. Given this, appears to be essentially a normal female reaction to a particular environmental stimulus, and it actually would seem to be an adaptive behavior.

    Male bisexuality--unclear--mild case of male homosexuality?

    Transgenderism--probably part of a family of body dysmorphic disorder type mental illnesses, becoming more common due to rapid hormonal swings and the environmental presence of endocrine disruptors. Not really present in antiquity or in preindustrialized cultures so likely some environmental component, as well as a cultural component, which may be in a bit of a feedback loop at present.

    Long term lesbianism strongly correlated with failure to find a mate, or failure to find a mate that displays stronger masculine characteristics than the lesbian.

    I used to know a lot of lesbians. All of them were sexually attracted to men. And emotionally attracted to men.

    There’s actually no such thing as lesbianism.

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    Agree. Sort of splitting hairs, you could say lesbianism is a behavior while male homosexuality is a trait.
    , @J.Ross
    Media-accredited Fake Expert Dan Savage (originator of the "Sanctorum Is Latin For @$$#0/3" meme) said effectively the same thing and described a particular pair who had entered into "bed death" (lesbians staying together but giving up on sex -- there is no gay equivalent, gays who are cohabitating but not co-shtupping are cheating on each other), but had a weekly fun night eating disgusting junk food together. In other words, a nice landing for a fat heterosexual girl who accepted manlessness.
    Several people (I believe including the Hrenevask guy) have observed that homosexuals give us a chance to observe what men and women are really like away from each other: men want sex with many different partners and women want a close friend to grow old with.
  131. Having and bragging about a tranny spawn has become a new bona fides in some social circles. It demonstrates an extraordinary, some would say admirable, liberality to one’s peers. Rather like the conversational grace note, “my analyst says” of a past generation. The kiddos who are being Munchausened are to be pitied. And to think there are those who are still angry that they were forced to use their right hands even though the were congenital southpaws. Will be interesting in another 15 or so years when the brain tissue of these delicate flowers in training finally matures.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    It's funny how there is no social interest in the past oppression of lefthanders (e.g., Ronald Reagan was forced to write right-handed). When's the Left-Hander History Month when PBS would run documentaries about the historical oppression of left-handers?
  132. @Alden
    With 2 or even 1 child families the norm, shouldn’t make gays start to disappear?

    Correlated with # of older brothers, but not a terribly strong correlation. Appears to be a real phenomenon, but not very strong. Hence even if everyone had singletons you will still have gay males, although they should be a slightly smaller percentage than societies with larger family sizes. The fact that the correlation is pretty weak suggests to me that there are likely other possible mechanisms leading to homosexuality in men.

    Interestingly, in the case of adoptees, odds of being a male homosexual is correlated with number of older brothers from the birth mother, but not correlated with number of older brothers in the adopted family, which seems to rule out any sort of environmental effect of growing up with lots of brothers. It appears to be something in utero.

    • Replies: @Alden
    Interesting. A son in law is the youngest of 5 brothers. He is not gay or effeminate. But that’s just one person.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    Correlated with # of older brothers, but not a terribly strong correlation. Appears to be a real phenomenon, but not very strong. Hence even if everyone had singletons you will still have gay males, although they should be a slightly smaller percentage than societies with larger family sizes.
     
    So the reason for gays is that they are born after the mother has multiple sons. But then families with exactly one child have only a "slightly smaller percentage" of gays. If multiple sons is the cause, then how can an only child be gay? And if an only child is gay, how can it be caused by multiple older brothers? Or is a 'slightly' smaller percentage actually large enough to account for the supposed phenomenon?

    Or maybe the older sons theory is bogus? Your argument is quite unpersuasive.

  133. @markflag
    Having and bragging about a tranny spawn has become a new bona fides in some social circles. It demonstrates an extraordinary, some would say admirable, liberality to one's peers. Rather like the conversational grace note, "my analyst says" of a past generation. The kiddos who are being Munchausened are to be pitied. And to think there are those who are still angry that they were forced to use their right hands even though the were congenital southpaws. Will be interesting in another 15 or so years when the brain tissue of these delicate flowers in training finally matures.

    It’s funny how there is no social interest in the past oppression of lefthanders (e.g., Ronald Reagan was forced to write right-handed). When’s the Left-Hander History Month when PBS would run documentaries about the historical oppression of left-handers?

  134. @dfordoom

    Long term lesbianism strongly correlated with failure to find a mate, or failure to find a mate that displays stronger masculine characteristics than the lesbian.
     
    I used to know a lot of lesbians. All of them were sexually attracted to men. And emotionally attracted to men.

    There's actually no such thing as lesbianism.

    Agree. Sort of splitting hairs, you could say lesbianism is a behavior while male homosexuality is a trait.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    Nicely put.
  135. @LKM
    Of course the Toronto Sun had the best coverage of the original story:

    Link
    The reaction of the girl's mother was priceless:

    “I came to the school right away,” a visibly upset Saima Samad said. “I’m just so happy she’s safe…It’s just not Canada. I’m so proud to be a Canadian and I feel safe in this community. It’s just, it’s not right. He should get help. This is not who we are.”
     
    That's the girl's mother on the right, in case you were wondering who we are.

    She continues:

    “It is offensive, obviously,” she said. “We don’t know his intentions. I’m very frustrated and angry. But we believe in peace. I want to give him the message — ‘We’re all in this together and we should live in harmony.’ It’s a multicultural country.”
     
    Now, given the fact that the mother's quotes sound like they were written by a rejected Obama wannabe intern, I'm sure this tripped more than a few BS-meters, including the reporter's, but perhaps the funniest part came with the description of the assailant:

    Toronto Police describe the man as Asian, in his 20s, with a medium build, around 5-foot-10, with black hair and a moustache.
     
    If you're going make up an imaginary perpetrator for a violent crime in Toronto, do not make him Asian. I don't care if it was supposed to have happened in a Chinese part of town, don't pick the most non-violent racial group in the country. Also if your alleged hate-criminal needs to have a mustache(perhaps for twirling), don't make him a member of an ethnic group known for not being able to grow facial hair.

    The Sun article also has the following nugget, just in case any of their readers thought that perhaps Muslim immigrants would grow out of their face-covering habits after getting accustomed to the Great White North. According to the mother:

    ...the family has lived in Canada for 25 years and she grew up here, but she will exercise more caution when her kids walk to school from now on.
     
    It will be interesting to see if there will be any follow-up. Both the sister and brother were supposed to have been present for the imaginary assault, so we have not one but two liars. When you consider how prepared and PC the family's reactions were, it's hard not to imagine that the whole thing was orchestrated by the mother. Also of interest is the fact that despite the sister, brother and mother all coming from the same family, they all have different surnames, which leads me to wonder if they aren't part of some sort of polygamous family.

    All in all, a pretty 2018 story.

    Moustaches have been out of style since about 1980.

  136. @Anon
    Most people are familiar with men who get turned on by women's sexy clothing items as a sexual fetish. But the public doesn't really understand the full psychological dimensions of women who have a sexual fetish for women's clothing. Most men just look at women who dress like prostitutes and think, oh, wow, that's cool, that's just great, and all analysis stops right there as male synapses fry.

    But nearly everyone feels uneasy when these women start dressing their very young daughters like skanks. People can tell there's something wrong, but they can't pin it down. But it's just a mother who who has cunningly figured out a way to indulge in her sexual fetish by dressing a daughter like a prostitute. The mother gets sexually excited by seeing these clothing items on her daughter, and the stupid public has absolutely no idea about the mother's motives.

    A good example is Patty Ramsey and her daughter JonBenet.

    Slutty little girl clothes were a fad about 20 to 15 years ago. The higher power that decrees styles has gone back to pants and T shirts and boys jackets for girls.

    I’ve been buying girls clothes for daughters and grand daughters for 50 years now. The styles aren t driven by buyers preferences. Some Emperor of the clothing industry makes the decision. The big thing is to keep things changing constantly so people have to replace their wardrobes all the time.

  137. @Altai

    During the 1950’s and ’60’s, the U.S. government built huge housing projects for the poorest segment of urban America. While the intention of the projects was to provide good housing for the poor, it soon became apparent that these projects became the centers of the worst imaginable crime, including drug dealing and drive by killings.

    Recently, it was decided to move people out of these projects, bull doze them and place residents in more user friendly communities that are smaller and more attractive.

    Then, something surprising happened. Many of the dwellers complained that they did not want to move. How is this possible? While the protesters are few in number they make a valid point that families have now lived there for decades, formed close friendships, built a real sense of community cohesiveness, protected one another and came to feel fond of the environment. No one asked them if they wanted to move. Perhaps this is symptomatic of something that has gone wrong today, not only in the United States but all around the world.

    It has been my observation that more individuals than ever before are coming to the office because of feelings of loneliness, isolation and desolation. Some of these patients report feeling they have an inner void numbness.

    Judging From These Examples, Has the world become Schizoid?
     

    https://www.mentalhelp.net/blogs/does-the-modern-world-promote-schizoid-personality-disorder/

    I have a cure for that emotional problem

    Maybe blacks could find and buy or rent their own housing instead of depending on HUD to find homes for them.

    Does HUD have workers who will pack for these prople, take them for their new homes, unpack, make the beds and arrange all the cupboards and closets?

    Does HUD leave them a casserole for the first night dinner in their home?

  138. @dfordoom

    Long term lesbianism strongly correlated with failure to find a mate, or failure to find a mate that displays stronger masculine characteristics than the lesbian.
     
    I used to know a lot of lesbians. All of them were sexually attracted to men. And emotionally attracted to men.

    There's actually no such thing as lesbianism.

    Media-accredited Fake Expert Dan Savage (originator of the “Sanctorum Is Latin For @$$#0/3” meme) said effectively the same thing and described a particular pair who had entered into “bed death” (lesbians staying together but giving up on sex — there is no gay equivalent, gays who are cohabitating but not co-shtupping are cheating on each other), but had a weekly fun night eating disgusting junk food together. In other words, a nice landing for a fat heterosexual girl who accepted manlessness.
    Several people (I believe including the Hrenevask guy) have observed that homosexuals give us a chance to observe what men and women are really like away from each other: men want sex with many different partners and women want a close friend to grow old with.

  139. @Stan Adams

    People grow out of stuff, but it’s really hard if you’re an anorexic and people keep telling you, ‘You’re right, you really could stand to lose a few pounds.’
     
    I'm not a woman, but in my experience, people don't tell girls who look like Dachau laborers that they need to lose a few pounds.

    (Then again, maybe the anorexics all hang out together and fat-shame each other. "Carly, you look great! You're only one or two bouts of stomach flu away from perfection!")

    These days, there are lots of women waddling around who could stand to lose a few *dozen* pounds, or even a few *hundred* pounds. Whoever is fat-shaming these women isn't doing a particularly good job.

    The anorexia fad was totally media driven. They discovered something incredibly rare and made a big deal of it. Some girls tried it, but had a hard time refusing food.

    But then the liberals discovered that a low protein high carb diet prevented heart attacks, was the way to perfect health and saved Mother Earth. Everyone followed that diet and obesity became the norm

  140. @SimpleSong
    Correlated with # of older brothers, but not a terribly strong correlation. Appears to be a real phenomenon, but not very strong. Hence even if everyone had singletons you will still have gay males, although they should be a slightly smaller percentage than societies with larger family sizes. The fact that the correlation is pretty weak suggests to me that there are likely other possible mechanisms leading to homosexuality in men.

    Interestingly, in the case of adoptees, odds of being a male homosexual is correlated with number of older brothers from the birth mother, but not correlated with number of older brothers in the adopted family, which seems to rule out any sort of environmental effect of growing up with lots of brothers. It appears to be something in utero.

    Interesting. A son in law is the youngest of 5 brothers. He is not gay or effeminate. But that’s just one person.

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    Even the fifth son is much more likely to be heterosexual than homosexual. I don't have the exact numbers off the top of my head, but they've been published and replicated multiple times. It's something like the risk increases by a third with each older brother. But the baseline risk is very low. Say the risk of homosexuality is 3% in the first child. In the second child the risk increases by 1/3, or 1%, to 4%. Then with the next child, 5.25%. This risk of homosexuality is higher but there is still about a 95% chance that the child will be heterosexual.

    So, long story short, while this becomes obvious when you look at large sample sizes, in an individual family the risk is pretty negligible.
    , @SimpleSong
    This thread is getting a bit old, but I've found the immune system homosexuality hypothesis fairly reasonable and it is worth describing:

    There is no evidence of a 'gay gene' as you don't see homosexuality running in families or inherited in a Mendelian way. Furthermore this would likely be maladaptive. There may be constellations of genes that predispose to homosexuality but currently there is really no evidence. So alternative hypotheses have been advanced. The immune hypothesis is backed by some evidence, specifically the data on number of older male siblings and odds of homosexuality. Some background:

    Anatomical males are made by a signaling molecule on the Y chromosome called SRY. As the baby develops this signal causes the formation of testes, penis, etc. If this signaling molecule or its receptor is absent due to mutation, the baby will default to female anatomy. For example XX is female, XY is male; someone missing a chromosome that only has X will develop as female (Turners syndrome). Likewise someone with a receptor mutation will develop as an anatomically normal female, and then at puberty fail to menstruate and (eventually) be discovered to be XY, a male, with a broken receptor. Note that the Y chromosome doesn't contain the genes to make testes, etc.--it is a tiny chromosome without many genes--instead it has a gene to make a signal to tell all the other chromosomes to make the male bits and not the female bits.

    In light of this it is reasonable to hypothesize that there may be a related signaling molecule that drives the formation of an anatomically male brain, which includes male heterosexuality. Perhaps this signaling system is disrupted in the case of male homosexuals and an anatomically female brain develops instead. Note that male homosexuals, in addition to different sexual preferences, often display stereotypically female cognitive patterns of interests and abilities (e.g. interested in interior decorating, high verbal IQ, etc.)

    What might disrupt this signaling system? Obviously a mutation in the signal or receptor could cause this but that would be a relatively rare event. Given the (relatively) high prevalence of male homosexuality there may be an alternative mechanism. One possibility is that mother's immune system could develop antibodies or some other response to the signaling molecule that then prevents it from working properly.

    Things like this are known to happen. For example if during a mother's first pregnancy her baby's blood type is O+, and mother's is O-, she may develop a sensitization to O+ blood and develop antibodies against it. This usually doesn't do much to the first pregnancy, but during the second pregnancy (or third, or fourth) these antibodies can attack the baby's blood cells and cause anemia. (this is why you sometimes give pregnant women RhoGam)

    Women may have some immune response to the male signaling system that, like all immune responses, ramps up with each exposure to the antigen. So the immune response may increase with each male pregnancy, increasing the probability that the male develops an anatomically female brain and is homosexual.

    That is the common explanation I've heard for the # of siblings/homosexuality correlation data. However, there are likely multiple factors at play and that is only one of them. But as far as I know it is the only one backed by any evidence.
  141. @Moses
    Occam's Razor, folks. Mass hysteria.

    Like the gluten allergy nonsense a few years ago. These things are fashion.

    Agreed. I’m surprised Steve didn’t just go with that, considering how often he has borrowed a form of the phrase. Looking for a parasite or pollutant is a shade above space aliens (UFOs are having a minor moment) or maybe the Babadook being the cause. People are idiots, and we are all supposed to pretend the “autistic tranny” 6 year old just doesn’t have shitty parents.

    • Replies: @notanon

    Looking for a parasite or pollutant is a shade above space aliens
     
    there is something massively wrong

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40900269

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/jul/25/sperm-counts-among-western-men-have-halved-in-last-40-years-study

    It may not be related to the current transgender child abuse fad but something is definitely wrong.
  142. @The Z Blog
    I would be curious to see the numbers on peanut allergies. There was a time when every kid was afraid of his food, with peanuts being the great Satan of foodstuffs. I can't remember the last time I heard someone talking about peanut allergies. The more sober minded Progressives claimed it was the use of peanut oil in diapers, but that was always a bit specious.

    The growth of peanut allergies is interesting to me. When I was a grade school boy in the ‘80s I don’t recall anyone having a peanut allergy or even hearing of such a thing. By the late ‘90s or early ‘00s it seemed there were kids everywhere with peanut allergies.

  143. @Alden
    Recent tests of the meat in Subways sandwiches shows some of the meat like turkey chicken, salami baloney were 50 percent soy. The ham roast beef had less.

    Hamburger meat and that health food ground turkey is often filed with soy granules.

    yes, processed food is full of the stuff

  144. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Do boys ( or men) who wish they were girls (or women) have lower than average testosterone levels?

    I'm not even sure homosexual men have lower T. Some do, obviously, but some are enormous muscle heads.

    @93 Ghost of Bull Moose: “Do boys ( or men) who wish they were girls (or women) have lower than average testosterone levels?”

    From what I’ve read, although testosterone levels can vary day by day, they have dropped precipitously over the last 40 years in America and the West in general. Heartist’s most recent post about this was last November, when the cast of Buzzfeed (only one of whom is actually homosexual, I believe) were tested and found to have testosterone levels matching those of a healthy 12 year old boy (Link here). Lots of comments there go into a fair bit of detail about the prevalence and consequences of processed soy in the modern diet.

    In a March 2017 entry Heartiste linked to this study, which further details healthy levels and their precipitous decline.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    Heartiste is liar and a subtle peddler of quasi-pornographic narratives who writes to promote his brand. If you read his posts critically, you can see that he simply makes things up out of whole cloth in order to make every story fit his Procrustean bed, even if the facts lead to the exact opposite conclusion. Good work, if you can get it.

    That story about sperm counts dropping in half over the last 40 years has been making the rounds for, well, at least 40 years. I first came across that particular nugget while thumbing through some old pop psychology paperbacks at my local college library. This occurred back in 1999. The publication date of the book in question was 1970.

    Incidentally, this practice of reading the paperback pabulum of yesteryear is highly informative. I used to be in the habit of picking up a few these books for a dollar apiece whenever the library would pull them out of circulation. This was part of my self-directed education, my independent historical research. It demonstrates pretty clearly both how the fads change and the people remain the same.

    Reading through the chapters about how to pick up women and improve your romantic life, and correcting for the period-dependent accidentals (e.g. the lionization of Ted Turner and the winking at congressmen's affairs with their staffers) what you found between the covers was nothing but---Heartiste, same as it ever was.

    In every era there is going to be a sizable pool of unhappy, frustrated, lonely men looking to improve their prospects, or perhaps just to relieve their mental anguish. Publishers, producers, and advertising gurus know all about them. They will forever be marketed the same products according to the same, time-tested ways, with the necessary adjustments made according to the prevailing fashions. In the literature of this subculture, testosterone levels will always be dropping, sperm counts will always be half of what their fathers' were, and women will always be "attracted to confidence." None of it ever makes a difference, but both the men and the market are eternal; eternal as youth and age, as the coquettish prostitutes hocking their wares, eternal as the human race itself.

    "Soyboi" is a ridiculous epithet, as any moment's honest reflection will show. People have been eating soy for thousands of years, many of them Asian peasant farmers who were half starving anyway, and yet they managed to reproduce the entire time. The boys at BuzzFeed, whatever their T-levels suggest, are not failures. They are the successful ones---media personalities, popular, wealthy, and connected. They are enjoying themselves; they have no need to feel like they are lacking in anything. I doubt they have any trouble finding women who will go with them. If you could transport yourself back to the age of Louis XIV, you would find that the Sun King's courtiers resembled these lads in every essential. Not nearly as "manly" as Jacques the stonemason, but managing the affairs of the nation with their lacy, skippy insouciance and cavorting with upper class women whenever they felt like it. If Voltaire were alive today, he'd be working at BuzzFeed.

    This obsession with insignificant biological distinctions serves only to becloud the understanding. I would be willing to bet that for any biological male who has passed through adolescence and attained to adulthood along a normal developmental pathway, subsequent testosterone levels mean nothing, i.e. they will not be shown to correlate with any aspect of behavior or life outcome as long as they are not pathologically depressed. By that time in life testosterone has already done its primary job of producing a sexually mature male and should only be manufactured and consumed at need, for maintenance and in times of stress. T-levels are not a factor in general social phenomena.

    The strange qualities of the modern male are the result of breeding too many minor aristocrats. Every suburb is a little Versailles where courtly excesses can flourish unabated.
  145. @Sax
    With regard to autism diagnoses soaring, there's also an incentive: an official diagnosis of autism grants access to services and supports in grade school that a struggling "weird kid" wouldn't qualify for.

    Bingo. That “autistic” schoolkids get extra time to complete examinations should give the game away.

  146. @Sax
    With regard to autism diagnoses soaring, there's also an incentive: an official diagnosis of autism grants access to services and supports in grade school that a struggling "weird kid" wouldn't qualify for.

    Just gotta get a “dyslexia” diagnosis and you can take as much time as you want on the SAT/ACT, and all of your tests in high school. Most mediocrities can achieve excellent grades on the SAT/ACT test, any test, given enough time to take it. I wonder what percentage of students attending our elite colleges opted for this “dyslexia” scam? I’ll bet that it is much larger than most of us think.

  147. @guest
    Autism diagnoses aren't any surer than "gender disphoria." This is the problem with disorders and "diseases" that aren't diagnosed on the basis of an objective test. Which is the case with some actual diseases. But mental disorders/diseases are only metaphorically medical in nature, and psychology has almost nothing to do with science. So they're particularly susceptible.

    These things are fads. Doctors aren't any more resistant to fads than teenage girls, in the absence of such things as blood tests and well-researched etiology.

    and psychology has almost nothing to do with science.

    Agreed. Psychology and psychiatry are scientific in the way astrology is scientific.

    These things are fads. Doctors aren’t any more resistant to fads than teenage girls, in the absence of such things as blood tests and well-researched etiology.

    Except that fads can be incredibly lucrative for doctors.

  148. @Mr. Anon
    Good Point.

    "Rat Utopia" - l like that.

    @90 Mr. Anon: ““Rat Utopia” – l like that.”

    No disrespect to Daniel intended, but he didn’t coin that (nor did he claim to). Mouse Utopia was an experiment conducted by American ethologist John Calhoun. Vdare links to it, as well as to a 2017 study re-examining it and comparing it to modern human society and damaging mutations. There’s also a link in there to a Stefan Molyneux interview with the scientist responsible for the 2017 study. All fascinating and terrifyingly prophetic and worth your time.

  149. @Anon87
    Agreed. I'm surprised Steve didn't just go with that, considering how often he has borrowed a form of the phrase. Looking for a parasite or pollutant is a shade above space aliens (UFOs are having a minor moment) or maybe the Babadook being the cause. People are idiots, and we are all supposed to pretend the "autistic tranny" 6 year old just doesn't have shitty parents.

    Looking for a parasite or pollutant is a shade above space aliens

    there is something massively wrong

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40900269

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/jul/25/sperm-counts-among-western-men-have-halved-in-last-40-years-study

    It may not be related to the current transgender child abuse fad but something is definitely wrong.

  150. @Anonymous
    There's also Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria, which Michael Bailey of "The Man Who Would be Queen" is looking into. This is when a teen girl suddenly, without any prior gender problems, declares that she is a guy, and often her friends also do the same.

    As Professor Bailey explains in his book, boys who show interest in acting female from toddler days are most likely going to grow up to either be homosexual males or transsexual women. The difference seems to be that if the family prevents the kid from dressing female, he becomes a happy masculine homosexual male; if he's allowed to cross dress, then he becomes either a miserable femme homosexual male, or a transsexual female who can pass better than the older guys. These days forcing your kid to dress male will bring out child protective services, so the well-adjusted masculine homosexual male option is off the table.

    I think that other than this from-toddler condition, they are all psychological problems or sexual paraphilias. There is co-occurance of psych problems with most of these, and the autogynephillic Bruce Jenner stuff is just an extreme version of a cross-dressing paraphilia.

    Bailey explains that these guys lie about their past. If you interview their families, former female partners, and so on, their stories of always feeling like a woman don't hold up. And in the old days when you needed a year of psych treatment before getting a surgery O.K., most of them would 'fess up sometime before the year was up. Their obseesion was simply to dress as women and masturbate to their own images, a typical paraphilia.

    The rapid onset stuff is probably a new variation of a mass psychogenic illness, which commonly affect adolescent girls in groups, although they sometimes affect males or adults in groups.

    The problem with this area is that you cannot do research on it without bringing out the mobs of autogynephillic transgender women attacking you. Bailey's sad story was told in "Galileo's Middle Finger."

    Trannies like Donald (“Deirdre”) McCloskey tried to get Bailey fired from his tenured position. And then McCloskey turns around and declares in an interview that this stuff about us (trannies, that is) always feeling like girls is not true. He admits that his move to trannyism was a conscious decision to fulfill a fantasy. Trannies are very sick dudes.

  151. @Thea
    Obesity is one factor in precocious puberty but there may be others.

    Could obesity lead one to be unhappy in their body thus inducing beliefs they are the wrong sex?

    Obesity is one factor in precocious puberty but there may be others.

    yeah – i’m wondering if the cause of the obesity is a hormonal imbalance leading to girls hitting puberty early and boys being feminized.

    it could be unrelated but something is causing a massive drop in sperm count.

  152. @Stan Adams
    The cosmopolitan elites are the ones who are driving all of this insanity. They're the ones who are ramming tranny-lib down everyone's throats. (Do you honestly believe that high-school principals in rural North Carolina were the ones who created the bathroom controversy? There wouldn't even be a controversy if it weren't for the whackjobs in the coastal enclaves.) No one has the luxury of pretending that trannies doesn't exist when folks are being persecuted (and prosecuted) for not going along with the program.

    SJWs always double down. If you tell them that Trump was elected because normal Americans are sick and tired of the immivasion/BLM/WWT freak show, they don't think, "Oh, yes, you're absolutely right! We need to back off!" They think, "We must work overtime to destroy Trump! The bigoted sheep must pay for their disobedience! Anyone who opposes us must be destroyed! Nothing can stand in our way! We must prevail!"

    In 2004, gay marriage lost in every state where it was on the ballot. (As late as 2008, Obama felt compelled to pretend to oppose it.) Faced with such overwhelming defeat, did the SJWs give up? Nope. They made gay marriage a holy crusade. "We're on the right side of history!" became their battle cry. The activist left was fanatically devoted to the cause, and the "mainstream" left was supportive; many if not most "conservatives" were fair-weather traditionalists (at best) who were only too willing to capitulate in face of an unrelenting onslaught. The gay-marriage agitators pushed and pushed and pushed until their opponents threw up their hands and shrieked, "Fine! We're sick of hearing about it! We'll give you what you want!" By 2012, the tide had turned decisively.

    The same thing happened with tranny rights.

    If you believe that you can sit down with these people and have a rational discussion with them, then you are hopelessly naive. You can't negotiate with nuts. They will not hesitate to destroy anyone who disagrees with them. If you don't have the stomach for that kind of a fight, then you should be prepared to lose.

    Don’t forget the incessant media propaganda, from all angles. One stupid television show was enough to make conservative women think, “oh, they’re all so cute. And if they really looooove each other, well…”

    The NBA, of all crowds, had PSA’s of how awful it was to say “that’s so gay” as a put down.

  153. @Altai

    During the 1950’s and ’60’s, the U.S. government built huge housing projects for the poorest segment of urban America. While the intention of the projects was to provide good housing for the poor, it soon became apparent that these projects became the centers of the worst imaginable crime, including drug dealing and drive by killings.

    Recently, it was decided to move people out of these projects, bull doze them and place residents in more user friendly communities that are smaller and more attractive.

    Then, something surprising happened. Many of the dwellers complained that they did not want to move. How is this possible? While the protesters are few in number they make a valid point that families have now lived there for decades, formed close friendships, built a real sense of community cohesiveness, protected one another and came to feel fond of the environment. No one asked them if they wanted to move. Perhaps this is symptomatic of something that has gone wrong today, not only in the United States but all around the world.

    It has been my observation that more individuals than ever before are coming to the office because of feelings of loneliness, isolation and desolation. Some of these patients report feeling they have an inner void numbness.

    Judging From These Examples, Has the world become Schizoid?
     

    https://www.mentalhelp.net/blogs/does-the-modern-world-promote-schizoid-personality-disorder/

    >>Many of the dwellers complained that they did not want to move. How is this possible? …..

    This is true. Many of the inhabitants of urban public housing, no matter how crime-ridden the housing is, don’t want to be moved 200 miles away to some abandoned mill town in the middle of nowhere, but the Rahm Emanuels and Michael Bloombergs of the world, and their real estate developer buddies want them moved, for their own good, of course. Whose will will win out – do you think – in this contest?

  154. @carol
    Parents used to socialize their children. I certainly would have preferred to be a boy, when I was 4, probably because I had two older very adventurous brothers who seemed to have all the fun. Who wouldn't prefer their freedom?

    But my mother finally got me into a dress by the time I started first grade. I never made a terribly great female, either, but would have been worse as a male. You just gotta make that assessment and choose.

    Right there with you. I still don’t wear dresses, even as a wife and mother.

    These wicked people are going to have do some serious begging for forgiveness when their children are older.

  155. @S. Anonyia
    Yes, autism is basically an industry at this point and various special education services take up a huge portion of education funding. 11 billion dollars of the 68 billion dollars allotted for federal education spending in 2016 went to special ed....The percent of the budget going to special ed at local levels is no doubt even higher.

    A brave conservative politician would bring this up.

    A brave conservative politician would bring this up.

    Is there such a thing as a brave conservative politician?

  156. @Buffalo Joe
    Big Bill, I am 72 yrs old now. When my youngest grandson was Christened 6 yrs ago, he wore my Christening gown, as had my son and his son. I have a black and white photo of my father, two of his brothers and one of their cousins , all in knickers. Not quite ready for long pants.

    I’m 53 and likewise have pictures of my dad in knickers. And my mom saved about a 1/2 dozen christening gowns from her grandfather, father, etc. It cost like $500 to clean these yellowing heirlooms and each of my 3 kids (2 boys) wore one. My in-laws are from Latvia and Belarus. They found the whole thing pretty weird but there are some great shots of my father-in-law holding the boys at christenings. They look a little Little Lord Fauntleroy.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Hhsiii, Little Lord Fauntleroy, too funny. My mom, now 100, used to use that term all the time.
  157. How much of this explosion in reported cases of child gender dysphoria is due to Munchausen’s-syndrome-by-proxy?

    Nah. It’s more bandwagon effect.

  158. @Anon7
    I’m going to throw out one more possibility, one which will probably be offensive to many conservative readers. Human beings are not a special creation, they are just another of the many species that have evolved here on Earth. The mechanics of biological creation are not perfect; reproduction does not create uniform humans. The binary nature of human beings, hetero males and females, is not perfectly replicated. Don’t get me wrong: it’s really well implemented, probably 99ish percent on the money. But it’s not perfect. Read the article for speculation about what might be different in the current era, in the environment or in the culture, that gets us to this problem. But truthfully, we’ve always had this problem.

    What to do about it? I’d suggest what has worked in past centuries. Let the people of small towns and rural areas pretend that it doesn’t exist. Let the people who feel they are different gravitate to big cities, where they will find people like themselves. Let the cosmopolitan people of big cities feel that they are superior in their acceptance of people who are different, and let them think it is much more common than it really is.

    What you do NOT want to do is set up a national authority that tells everyone what they can do and what they can believe and who can use what bathroom in every tiny town and school and church in America. And if the cosmopolitan elites don’t agree, tell them that’s one way you get to Trump. That might just shut them up.

    “I’d suggest what has worked in past centuries.” Excellent idea . Infant exposure .

  159. There’s a quite strong correlation between being on the autism spectrum and transgenderism.

    STEM ability correlates with high-functioning autism – on the spectrum but well below the “Rain Man” level. This may explain the odd fact that a significant number of high-achieving “women” in IT were born male. Usually their achievements occurred before “reassignment”.

  160. @Hhsiii
    I’m 53 and likewise have pictures of my dad in knickers. And my mom saved about a 1/2 dozen christening gowns from her grandfather, father, etc. It cost like $500 to clean these yellowing heirlooms and each of my 3 kids (2 boys) wore one. My in-laws are from Latvia and Belarus. They found the whole thing pretty weird but there are some great shots of my father-in-law holding the boys at christenings. They look a little Little Lord Fauntleroy.

    Hhsiii, Little Lord Fauntleroy, too funny. My mom, now 100, used to use that term all the time.

  161. @Buffalo Joe
    I blame it on the liberals' acceptance of all things fringe. Jennifer Pritzker, the wealthiest transgender in the world, funds a Chicago clinic, the Lurie Clinic, where they help gender confused children, sometimes with counseling, sometimes with surgery, to transition. They accept patients as young as 4 years old. Barack Obama, Valerie Jarret and Rahm Emmanuel are all friends of the Hyatt Hotel heirs, the Pritzkers. Jennifer Pritzker, a retired army officer, is a proponent of transgenders in the military. Who ever though that would gain traction?

    The colonel has opened his military library to the public. I avail myself of it frequently. And, yes, I believe that you’re correct, it’s the celebration of the fringes and the denigration of all things normal that’s behind it.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    M, Truly it is the mantra of the left that all things are acceptable, that is, as long as it fits their agenda. Enjoy the library.
  162. Before entering grad school, I toyed with the idea of becoming a speech pathologist. I spent a year doing in-home speech/behavior therapy with diagnosed autistic kids, ages 3 – 10, under the supervision of a psychologist. I worked with or observed ~50 kids that year, but by the end of the first month, I had realized the concept of an autism “spectrum” is misleading. IME, there is a thick line between kids with legitimate neural processing problems and kids with behavior issues. I saw kids who could not function in life, or I saw kids whose parents needed a name for whatever mildly non-normal behaviors were exhibited by their otherwise perfectly functional children. Not much in between, and about 60% of the kids fell into the latter category.

  163. @SimpleSong
    Agree. Sort of splitting hairs, you could say lesbianism is a behavior while male homosexuality is a trait.

    Nicely put.

  164. @Intelligent Dasein
    Oh for the love of God, enough already with the soy! This has nothing to do with phytoestrogens, which are harmless. Nor does it have anything to do with plastics, electromagnetic fields, or any other known or unknown physical influence.

    Why is it that this reported rise in childhood transgenderism---obviously a cultural phenomenon in every way, from the reporting itself (the Narrative), to the increasing interest in the subject (Sapir-Whorf), to the sympathy points (Munchausen by proxy), to the virtue signalling (it's cool to LBGTQ)---sends many of you reaching for convoluted biochemical explanations as a matter of first resort? This is not simply a matter of being technically wrong, it's also buying into the whole worldview of nihilism and materialistic nonsense that gives rise to the transgender problem in the first place.

    Questions of diet, of drugs and alcohol, an obsessive focus on exercise and healthcare, on "life improvement," recreational intoxication, sport, teetotalism, vegetarianism---all this takes on an exaggerated importance in a dying culture that can find no better use for its people than to preen, worship, gratify, or destroy their own bodies. Transgenderism is just the latest fad in this Cult of the Body, but "explanations" for it hinging upon soy protein answer to the same general creed.

    As for the real explanation, I will guarantee you that almost all of this is attributable to silly, selfish, messed women seeking attention and "transgendering" their children in order to feed their own vanity. The remainder of it is attributable to silly, selfish, messed up women screwing up their kids so badly that the poor kids actually do think they're supposed to be the opposite sex. As these kids grow up, many of them are going to realize that this is all nonsense and then they will turn on their parents and their parents' whole generation with vehement but well justified wrath. Anybody who thinks it's cool to be down with LGBTQ agenda ought to think very carefully about what will happen to them when the pendulum swings.

    Agree.

  165. @Alden
    Recent tests of the meat in Subways sandwiches shows some of the meat like turkey chicken, salami baloney were 50 percent soy. The ham roast beef had less.

    Hamburger meat and that health food ground turkey is often filed with soy granules.

    Recent tests of the meat in Subways sandwiches shows some of the meat like turkey chicken, salami baloney were 50 percent soy. The ham roast beef had less.

    Reference please. And did they test Jimmie John’s?

  166. @SimpleSong
    Correlated with # of older brothers, but not a terribly strong correlation. Appears to be a real phenomenon, but not very strong. Hence even if everyone had singletons you will still have gay males, although they should be a slightly smaller percentage than societies with larger family sizes. The fact that the correlation is pretty weak suggests to me that there are likely other possible mechanisms leading to homosexuality in men.

    Interestingly, in the case of adoptees, odds of being a male homosexual is correlated with number of older brothers from the birth mother, but not correlated with number of older brothers in the adopted family, which seems to rule out any sort of environmental effect of growing up with lots of brothers. It appears to be something in utero.

    Correlated with # of older brothers, but not a terribly strong correlation. Appears to be a real phenomenon, but not very strong. Hence even if everyone had singletons you will still have gay males, although they should be a slightly smaller percentage than societies with larger family sizes.

    So the reason for gays is that they are born after the mother has multiple sons. But then families with exactly one child have only a “slightly smaller percentage” of gays. If multiple sons is the cause, then how can an only child be gay? And if an only child is gay, how can it be caused by multiple older brothers? Or is a ‘slightly’ smaller percentage actually large enough to account for the supposed phenomenon?

    Or maybe the older sons theory is bogus? Your argument is quite unpersuasive.

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    Google is a thing, you know. You can look this up. It's not my theory, it's quite well established. Here's a summary:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternal_birth_order_and_male_sexual_orientation

    "According to several studies, each older brother increases a male child's naturally occurring odds of having a homosexual orientation by 28–48%."

    So if the chance of having a gay first son is, say, 3%, then the second son is maybe 4%, third 5.2%, etc. See how that works? It's not deterministic, it changes the probability. Even the tenth son is still more likely to be heterosexual than homosexual, but he is much more likely to be homosexual than someone who is a first son.

    Since this has been observed repeatedly, the question is why. The most plausible theory put forward so far is that male homosexuality is mediated by some immune response in the mother to something that causes men to develop heterosexual tendencies. Remember that immunity and pregnancy are super complicated and very delicately balanced--normally cells that are not genetically identical to the host are going to be quickly destroyed by the immune system, but that would make pregnancy impossible. So pregnancy involves immunosupression of some degree, women with lupus or multiiple sclerosis for example tend to have remissions of their symptoms during pregnancy. The belief is that prior pregnancies with males can cause immune sensitization to some protein that is unique to males and determines heterosexual preferences.

    So does that sound a little bit more plausible? Or do you think men are gay because Jesus is mad at them?
  167. @Clyde
    This dysphoria family member (hope she is not too close), what is the body count for her piercings and tattoos and car wrecks? My psychic other says eleven.

    Eleven looks about right for tattoos/piercings. Not sure about her driving history.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    ok!
  168. A big problem in the mental health field is the increasing adoption of overly inclusive terms based on symptoms rather than causes. For example, melancholia, neurotic depression and reaction depression have now all been blended into one term “depression,” so instead of 6 percent of people being depressed we now have over 20 percent of people being depressed. Sure, all these people experience symptoms of depression, but that doesn’t mean they all have chronic, bio-chemical depression.

    With the widespread adoption of the imprecise, symptom-based term term “transgender,” the line being atypical gender expression and sex identity issues has been blurred, so lots of kids with atypical gender expression (yesterday’s tomboys and sissies) are now identifying as transgender. However, transgender is also a term for describing the opposite kind of issue, a male who has normal gender expression but instinctively identifies as the opposite sex.

    A number of brain scans are showing that transsexualism is primarily a subconscious, limbic issue while atypical gender expression is primarily an issue with white and grey matter in the neocortex Hence, different scientific explanations for different issues. However, it tends to serve the interests of the liberal left to conflate these separate issues since the more people that identify as trans, the more powerful the organised trans lobby becomes. Also, I get the impression the trans movement tends to be dominated by left-wing liberals in big cities, but many transsexuals are more right-wing libertarian types. Hence, by conflating the two issues the liberal left keeps political control of a movement that could otherwise become very politically anarchic.

  169. @George
    FDR Grew Up in a Dress: It Wasn't Always Blue for Boys and Pink for Girls
    https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/04/fdr-grew-up-in-a-dress-it-wasnt-always-blue-for-boys-and-pink-for-girls/237299/

    In the past very young boys were normally dressed in the same clothes as girls, which was convenient for their mother who had 5 other kids to deal with. One possibility is that modern Swedish women are not socialized to raise children and don't have many, so when their only child acts weird they either don't know it, or overreact.

    Occasionally (usually in Europe) a medical study crops up saying, hey maybe there is problem here, before it is buried under an industry-sponsored full spectrum attack.

  170. @Alden
    When I was a young mother the virtue signaling was all about denying kids sugar, ice cream cookies and dressing the girls in in boys clothes.

    Pink was so rare in girls clothes that I actually had to buy pink fabric and make pink dresses for the girls.

    Child raising fads come and go. In the early 20th century it was feeding even new born babies only every 4 hours even if they screamed in hunger.

    When Did Girls Start Wearing Pink?

    Every generation brings a new definition of masculinity and femininity that manifests itself in children’s dress

    Pink and blue arrived as colors for babies in the mid-19th century; yet, the two colors were not promoted as gender signifiers until just before World War I. (© Jaroon/iStock)

    By Jeanne Maglaty
    smithsonian.com

    April 7, 2011

    Little Franklin Delano Roosevelt sits primly on a stool, his white skirt spread smoothly over his lap, his hands clasping a hat trimmed with a marabou feather. Shoulder-length hair and patent leather party shoes complete the ensemble.

    We find the look unsettling today, yet social convention of 1884, when FDR was photographed at age 2 1/2, dictated that boys wore dresses until age 6 or 7, also the time of their first haircut. Franklin’s outfit was considered gender-neutral.

    But nowadays people just have to know the sex of a baby or young child at first glance, says Jo B. Paoletti, a historian at the University of Maryland and author of Pink and Blue: Telling the Girls From the Boys in America, to be published later this year. Thus we see, for example, a pink headband encircling the bald head of an infant girl.

    Why have young children’s clothing styles changed so dramatically? How did we end up with two “teams”—boys in blue and girls in pink?

    “It’s really a story of what happened to neutral clothing,” says Paoletti, who has explored the meaning of children’s clothing for 30 years. For centuries, she says, children wore dainty white dresses up to age 6. “What was once a matter of practicality—you dress your baby in white dresses and diapers; white cotton can be bleached—became a matter of ‘Oh my God, if I dress my baby in the wrong thing, they’ll grow up perverted,’ ” Paoletti says.

    The march toward gender-specific clothes was neither linear nor rapid. Pink and blue arrived, along with other pastels, as colors for babies in the mid-19th century, yet the two colors were not promoted as gender signifiers until just before World War I—and even then, it took time for popular culture to sort things out.

    For example, a June 1918 article from the trade publication Earnshaw’s Infants’ Department said, “The generally accepted rule is pink for the boys, and blue for the girls. The reason is that pink, being a more decided and stronger color, is more suitable for the boy, while blue, which is more delicate and dainty, is prettier for the girl.” Other sources said blue was flattering for blonds, pink for brunettes; or blue was for blue-eyed babies, pink for brown-eyed babies, according to Paoletti.

    In 1927, Time magazine printed a chart showing sex-appropriate colors for girls and boys according to leading U.S. stores. In Boston, Filene’s told parents to dress boys in pink. So did Best & Co. in New York City, Halle’s in Cleveland and Marshall Field in Chicago.

    Today’s color dictate wasn’t established until the 1940s, as a result of Americans’ preferences as interpreted by manufacturers and retailers. “It could have gone the other way,” Paoletti says.

    So the baby boomers were raised in gender-specific clothing. Boys dressed like their fathers, girls like their mothers. Girls had to wear dresses to school, though unadorned styles and tomboy play clothes were acceptable.

    When the women’s liberation movement arrived in the mid-1960s, with its anti-feminine, anti-fashion message, the unisex look became the rage—but completely reversed from the time of young Franklin Roosevelt. Now young girls were dressing in masculine—or at least unfeminine—styles, devoid of gender hints. Paoletti found that in the 1970s, the Sears, Roebuck catalog pictured no pink toddler clothing for two years.

    “One of the ways [feminists] thought that girls were kind of lured into subservient roles as women is through clothing,” says Paoletti. “ ‘If we dress our girls more like boys and less like frilly little girls . . . they are going to have more options and feel freer to be active.’ ”

    John Money, a sexual identity researcher at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, argued that gender was primarily learned through social and environmental cues. “This was one of the drivers back in the ’70s of the argument that it’s ‘nurture not nature,’ ” Paoletti says.

    Gender-neutral clothing remained popular until about 1985. Paoletti remembers that year distinctly because it was between the births of her children, a girl in ’82 and a boy in ’86. “All of a sudden it wasn’t just a blue overall; it was a blue overall with a teddy bear holding a football,” she says. Disposable diapers were manufactured in pink and blue.

    Prenatal testing was a big reason for the change. Expectant parents learned the sex of their unborn baby and then went shopping for “girl” or “boy” merchandise. (“The more you individualize clothing, the more you can sell,” Paoletti says.) The pink fad spread from sleepers and crib sheets to big-ticket items such as strollers, car seats and riding toys. Affluent parents could conceivably decorate for baby No. 1, a girl, and start all over when the next child was a boy.

    Some young mothers who grew up in the 1980s deprived of pinks, lace, long hair and Barbies, Paoletti suggests, rejected the unisex look for their own daughters. “Even if they are still feminists, they are perceiving those things in a different light than the baby boomer feminists did,” she says. “They think even if they want their girl to be a surgeon, there’s nothing wrong if she is a very feminine surgeon.”

    Another important factor has been the rise of consumerism among children in recent decades. According to child development experts, children are just becoming conscious of their gender between ages 3 and 4, and they do not realize it’s permanent until age 6 or 7. At the same time, however, they are the subjects of sophisticated and pervasive advertising that tends to reinforce social conventions. “So they think, for example, that what makes someone female is having long hair and a dress,’’ says Paoletti. “They are so interested—and they are so adamant in their likes and dislikes.”

    In researching and writing her book, Paoletti says, she kept thinking about the parents of children who don’t conform to gender roles: Should they dress their children to conform, or allow them to express themselves in their dress? “One thing I can say now is that I’m not real keen on the gender binary—the idea that you have very masculine and very feminine things. The loss of neutral clothing is something that people should think more about. And there is a growing demand for neutral clothing for babies and toddlers now, too.”

    “There is a whole community out there of parents and kids who are struggling with ‘My son really doesn’t want to wear boy clothes, prefers to wear girl clothes.’ ” She hopes one audience for her book will be people who study gender clinically. The fashion world may have divided children into pink and blue, but in the world of real individuals, not all is black and white.

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/when-did-girls-start-wearing-pink-1370097/

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Unisex clothes were supposed to be a fashion in the early 1970s. I posted pictures of unisex clothes being sold in the Sears Catalog about 1973. Unisex flopped and then the next big thing came to be tailoring jeans specifically for women as in Anderson Cooper's mom Gloria Swanson's designer jeans.
  171. Perhaps it’s akin to “flight from white.” In this case it’s “flight from masculinity.”

    There may also be an association there with declining levels of testosterone: winning leads to increased testosterone and in the last several decades, men have been losing a lot.

  172. @3g4me
    @93 Ghost of Bull Moose: "Do boys ( or men) who wish they were girls (or women) have lower than average testosterone levels?"

    From what I've read, although testosterone levels can vary day by day, they have dropped precipitously over the last 40 years in America and the West in general. Heartist's most recent post about this was last November, when the cast of Buzzfeed (only one of whom is actually homosexual, I believe) were tested and found to have testosterone levels matching those of a healthy 12 year old boy (Link here). Lots of comments there go into a fair bit of detail about the prevalence and consequences of processed soy in the modern diet.

    In a March 2017 entry Heartiste linked to this study, which further details healthy levels and their precipitous decline.

    Heartiste is liar and a subtle peddler of quasi-pornographic narratives who writes to promote his brand. If you read his posts critically, you can see that he simply makes things up out of whole cloth in order to make every story fit his Procrustean bed, even if the facts lead to the exact opposite conclusion. Good work, if you can get it.

    That story about sperm counts dropping in half over the last 40 years has been making the rounds for, well, at least 40 years. I first came across that particular nugget while thumbing through some old pop psychology paperbacks at my local college library. This occurred back in 1999. The publication date of the book in question was 1970.

    Incidentally, this practice of reading the paperback pabulum of yesteryear is highly informative. I used to be in the habit of picking up a few these books for a dollar apiece whenever the library would pull them out of circulation. This was part of my self-directed education, my independent historical research. It demonstrates pretty clearly both how the fads change and the people remain the same.

    Reading through the chapters about how to pick up women and improve your romantic life, and correcting for the period-dependent accidentals (e.g. the lionization of Ted Turner and the winking at congressmen’s affairs with their staffers) what you found between the covers was nothing but—Heartiste, same as it ever was.

    In every era there is going to be a sizable pool of unhappy, frustrated, lonely men looking to improve their prospects, or perhaps just to relieve their mental anguish. Publishers, producers, and advertising gurus know all about them. They will forever be marketed the same products according to the same, time-tested ways, with the necessary adjustments made according to the prevailing fashions. In the literature of this subculture, testosterone levels will always be dropping, sperm counts will always be half of what their fathers’ were, and women will always be “attracted to confidence.” None of it ever makes a difference, but both the men and the market are eternal; eternal as youth and age, as the coquettish prostitutes hocking their wares, eternal as the human race itself.

    “Soyboi” is a ridiculous epithet, as any moment’s honest reflection will show. People have been eating soy for thousands of years, many of them Asian peasant farmers who were half starving anyway, and yet they managed to reproduce the entire time. The boys at BuzzFeed, whatever their T-levels suggest, are not failures. They are the successful ones—media personalities, popular, wealthy, and connected. They are enjoying themselves; they have no need to feel like they are lacking in anything. I doubt they have any trouble finding women who will go with them. If you could transport yourself back to the age of Louis XIV, you would find that the Sun King’s courtiers resembled these lads in every essential. Not nearly as “manly” as Jacques the stonemason, but managing the affairs of the nation with their lacy, skippy insouciance and cavorting with upper class women whenever they felt like it. If Voltaire were alive today, he’d be working at BuzzFeed.

    This obsession with insignificant biological distinctions serves only to becloud the understanding. I would be willing to bet that for any biological male who has passed through adolescence and attained to adulthood along a normal developmental pathway, subsequent testosterone levels mean nothing, i.e. they will not be shown to correlate with any aspect of behavior or life outcome as long as they are not pathologically depressed. By that time in life testosterone has already done its primary job of producing a sexually mature male and should only be manufactured and consumed at need, for maintenance and in times of stress. T-levels are not a factor in general social phenomena.

    The strange qualities of the modern male are the result of breeding too many minor aristocrats. Every suburb is a little Versailles where courtly excesses can flourish unabated.

    • Replies: @Whoever
    That PUA stuff certainly is the same old same old.

    A silent movie card from c.1920:

    https://i.imgur.com/cXVR2rh.gif

    And a magazine illustration from 1937:

    https://i.imgur.com/nkbYjhV.jpg

    , @Mr. Blank
    Eh. Heartiste may be mostly full of shit, but it doesn’t mean his advice is totally worthless. Based on experience, the general outline of his ideas (which admittedly isn’t particularly novel) is basically correct, even if it breaks down on particulars.

    Men and women have been conditioned by thousands of years of evolution to respond to certain cues. Personally, I discovered I could significantly improve my dating life just by dropping a lot of the so-called “beta behaviors” described by Heartiste et al. I didn’t even bother to learn “game” or any of that bullshit — just learned to trust my natural “flow.”

    It worked perfectly.
    , @notanon

    “Soyboi” is a ridiculous epithet, as any moment’s honest reflection will show. People have been eating soy for thousands of years, many of them Asian peasant farmers who were half starving anyway, and yet they managed to reproduce the entire time.
     
    did they have it in their infant formula back then?

    #

    another candidate is the erucic acid in seed oils - which like soy are now in almost all processed foods

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erucic_acid
    , @Alden
    Great comment
    , @J.Ross
    People have been eating fermented soy paste from the beans, not putting other kinds of soy products into every food item in the market (as "vegetable oil"), for thousands of years.
    , @James N. Kennett
    Heartiste delivers his share of BS. His strength is in delivering timeless dating advice to those of us who never heard it in our formative years. Such advice was severely deprecated in the 70s and 80s, when it was not to be found in any public library I visited. Possibly as a result of 2nd-wave feminism, "red pill" advice became deeply unfashionable. To attract women, "be yourself", they told us. "Women naturally pair for life, and are let down by men's promiscuity". Yeah, right.

    Above all, the life plan that worked (or appeared to work) for our fathers - developing a well-paid career that would support a family - is no longer sufficient in the marriage market. Perhaps this really is something new, because a well-paid man was a catch in the days when welfare was limited, and few women could earn enough to support a family.

    "Soyboi" is only a metaphor for a man who prefers soy to a decent steak (ideally acquired by lassooing a steer, slaughtering it with a bullfighter's sword, and butchering it himself).
  173. @Profjmb
    See: https://4thwavenow.com/2017/12/07/gender-dysphoria-is-not-one-thing/

    Especially Rapid Onset type.

    Was just scrolling through comments to make sure I wouldn’t be repeating anyone else who might have posted a link to this same site. Now I don’t need to cause you already did.

    Glad the link to https://4thwavenow.com/2017/12/07/gender-dysphoria-is-not-one-thing/ is already up–it’s one of the most illuminating things I read in 2017.

    The other posts from 4th wave now are also worth a look. There will be a whole popularized genre coming about families who lost their daughters in this way.

  174. @MBlanc46
    The colonel has opened his military library to the public. I avail myself of it frequently. And, yes, I believe that you’re correct, it’s the celebration of the fringes and the denigration of all things normal that’s behind it.

    M, Truly it is the mantra of the left that all things are acceptable, that is, as long as it fits their agenda. Enjoy the library.

  175. @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    Correlated with # of older brothers, but not a terribly strong correlation. Appears to be a real phenomenon, but not very strong. Hence even if everyone had singletons you will still have gay males, although they should be a slightly smaller percentage than societies with larger family sizes.
     
    So the reason for gays is that they are born after the mother has multiple sons. But then families with exactly one child have only a "slightly smaller percentage" of gays. If multiple sons is the cause, then how can an only child be gay? And if an only child is gay, how can it be caused by multiple older brothers? Or is a 'slightly' smaller percentage actually large enough to account for the supposed phenomenon?

    Or maybe the older sons theory is bogus? Your argument is quite unpersuasive.

    Google is a thing, you know. You can look this up. It’s not my theory, it’s quite well established. Here’s a summary:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternal_birth_order_and_male_sexual_orientation

    “According to several studies, each older brother increases a male child’s naturally occurring odds of having a homosexual orientation by 28–48%.”

    So if the chance of having a gay first son is, say, 3%, then the second son is maybe 4%, third 5.2%, etc. See how that works? It’s not deterministic, it changes the probability. Even the tenth son is still more likely to be heterosexual than homosexual, but he is much more likely to be homosexual than someone who is a first son.

    Since this has been observed repeatedly, the question is why. The most plausible theory put forward so far is that male homosexuality is mediated by some immune response in the mother to something that causes men to develop heterosexual tendencies. Remember that immunity and pregnancy are super complicated and very delicately balanced–normally cells that are not genetically identical to the host are going to be quickly destroyed by the immune system, but that would make pregnancy impossible. So pregnancy involves immunosupression of some degree, women with lupus or multiiple sclerosis for example tend to have remissions of their symptoms during pregnancy. The belief is that prior pregnancies with males can cause immune sensitization to some protein that is unique to males and determines heterosexual preferences.

    So does that sound a little bit more plausible? Or do you think men are gay because Jesus is mad at them?

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    So does that sound a little bit more plausible?
     
    Yes. I do have questions about the methodology. And anyone that quotes Kinsey is suspect. The misuse of 'odds' on the Wikipedia page is, well, odd. But they do seem to have a great deal of empirical evidence. I did not see studies about male children born after a gay sibling, which puzzles me. If something goes wrong, why doesn't it stay wrong? The most plausible explanation I have seen is that their gestation is during a stressful period for the mother. That could account for later reversals. But I wouldn't plant the flag on that hill without solid research to back it.

    Or do you think men are gay because Jesus is mad at them?
     
    Hah! Jesus loves them. It's God that hates them. Don't you read the Westboro Baptist placards? ;)
  176. @Anonymous
    There have been past cultures where a "third gender" existed, so I've always wondered if any studies have been done on the percentage of the population in those populations versus modern ones; my understanding is that was mostly men who identified or declared as not male. This is of course complicated by cultures that strongly associated manliness with a certain set of virtues which naturally declined with age:


    Being used homosexually by another man was equated with cowardice because of the custom of sexual aggression against vanquished foes. This practice is documented in Sturlunga saga, most notably in Guðmundar saga dýra where Guðmundr takes captive a man and his wife, and plans for both the woman and the man to be raped as a means of sexual humiliation (Ok var þat við orð at leggja Þórunni í rekkju hjá einhverjum gárungi, en gera þat vi Bjôrn prest, at þat þætti eigi minni svívirðing.) (Sørenson 82, 111; Sturlunga saga, I, 201)...

    ...It is interesting to note that the Vikings considered that old age caused a man to become argr(gay/feminine). A well-known proverb stated svá ergisk hverr sem eldisk, "everyone gets argr as he gets older."
     

    Yeah; I’m curious regarding whether in those ‘third gender’ cultures, the third gender people are mostly male homosexuals vs. gender dysphoria people, since they seem to be distinct populations.

    • Replies: @notanon
    female infanticide + demand for prostitution -> pederasty and "3rd gender"

    imo
  177. @Almost Missouri

    "How much of this explosion in reported cases of child gender dysphoria is due to Munchausen’s-syndrome-by-proxy? As you may recall, I pointed out in the spring of 2013 that the New York Times appeared to be planning to make transgenderism the Next Big Crusade after gay marriage."
     
    I don't really doubt Robert Stacy McCain's thesis that "Toxic moms ... have decided that having a Special Snowflake Rainbow Unicorn Child™ is a way 'to gain attention or sympathy from others.'"

    I can remember not too long ago some (presumably similar) parents were claiming they had "Indigo Children" for bonus Goodwhite parenting points, but that was too amorphous and insufficiently shocking, so more recently, Indigo is out and Gender Dysphoria is in.

    I happen to have an extended family member who lately has taken to claiming she has "gender dysphoria". She is too old for her (admittedly crazy-ish mother) to have Munchausened her into it, as no one had heard of "gender dysphoria" back then. But she does have a history of bad and indelible life decisions for which she needs someone or something to blame, and "gender dysphoria" being fashionable, celebrated and totally not her fault, fits the bill perfectly. [It will surprise no one here that she is also a raging leftist SJW.]

    BTW, isn't the whole concept of "gender dysphoria" based on a rather obvious fallacy? It assumes that one's normal state should be euphoria, else "dysphoria" wouldn't be a problem. Yet no one is normally euphoric except deeply ill crazy people.

    “Allergy moms” are another example. Some women just like causing tsuris everywhere they go. Having a delicate-snowflake child gives them an excuse to engage in anti-social but emotionally satisfying behavior.

  178. @Alden
    Interesting. A son in law is the youngest of 5 brothers. He is not gay or effeminate. But that’s just one person.

    Even the fifth son is much more likely to be heterosexual than homosexual. I don’t have the exact numbers off the top of my head, but they’ve been published and replicated multiple times. It’s something like the risk increases by a third with each older brother. But the baseline risk is very low. Say the risk of homosexuality is 3% in the first child. In the second child the risk increases by 1/3, or 1%, to 4%. Then with the next child, 5.25%. This risk of homosexuality is higher but there is still about a 95% chance that the child will be heterosexual.

    So, long story short, while this becomes obvious when you look at large sample sizes, in an individual family the risk is pretty negligible.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Ray Blanchard in Toronto documented this theory back about 20 years ago.
  179. @SimpleSong
    Even the fifth son is much more likely to be heterosexual than homosexual. I don't have the exact numbers off the top of my head, but they've been published and replicated multiple times. It's something like the risk increases by a third with each older brother. But the baseline risk is very low. Say the risk of homosexuality is 3% in the first child. In the second child the risk increases by 1/3, or 1%, to 4%. Then with the next child, 5.25%. This risk of homosexuality is higher but there is still about a 95% chance that the child will be heterosexual.

    So, long story short, while this becomes obvious when you look at large sample sizes, in an individual family the risk is pretty negligible.

    Ray Blanchard in Toronto documented this theory back about 20 years ago.

  180. @Joe Stalin
    When Did Girls Start Wearing Pink?

    Every generation brings a new definition of masculinity and femininity that manifests itself in children’s dress

    Pink and blue arrived as colors for babies in the mid-19th century; yet, the two colors were not promoted as gender signifiers until just before World War I. (© Jaroon/iStock)

    By Jeanne Maglaty
    smithsonian.com

    April 7, 2011

    Little Franklin Delano Roosevelt sits primly on a stool, his white skirt spread smoothly over his lap, his hands clasping a hat trimmed with a marabou feather. Shoulder-length hair and patent leather party shoes complete the ensemble.

    We find the look unsettling today, yet social convention of 1884, when FDR was photographed at age 2 1/2, dictated that boys wore dresses until age 6 or 7, also the time of their first haircut. Franklin’s outfit was considered gender-neutral.

    But nowadays people just have to know the sex of a baby or young child at first glance, says Jo B. Paoletti, a historian at the University of Maryland and author of Pink and Blue: Telling the Girls From the Boys in America, to be published later this year. Thus we see, for example, a pink headband encircling the bald head of an infant girl.

    Why have young children’s clothing styles changed so dramatically? How did we end up with two “teams”—boys in blue and girls in pink?

    “It’s really a story of what happened to neutral clothing,” says Paoletti, who has explored the meaning of children’s clothing for 30 years. For centuries, she says, children wore dainty white dresses up to age 6. “What was once a matter of practicality—you dress your baby in white dresses and diapers; white cotton can be bleached—became a matter of ‘Oh my God, if I dress my baby in the wrong thing, they’ll grow up perverted,’ ” Paoletti says.

    The march toward gender-specific clothes was neither linear nor rapid. Pink and blue arrived, along with other pastels, as colors for babies in the mid-19th century, yet the two colors were not promoted as gender signifiers until just before World War I—and even then, it took time for popular culture to sort things out.

    For example, a June 1918 article from the trade publication Earnshaw's Infants' Department said, “The generally accepted rule is pink for the boys, and blue for the girls. The reason is that pink, being a more decided and stronger color, is more suitable for the boy, while blue, which is more delicate and dainty, is prettier for the girl.” Other sources said blue was flattering for blonds, pink for brunettes; or blue was for blue-eyed babies, pink for brown-eyed babies, according to Paoletti.

    In 1927, Time magazine printed a chart showing sex-appropriate colors for girls and boys according to leading U.S. stores. In Boston, Filene’s told parents to dress boys in pink. So did Best & Co. in New York City, Halle’s in Cleveland and Marshall Field in Chicago.

    Today’s color dictate wasn’t established until the 1940s, as a result of Americans’ preferences as interpreted by manufacturers and retailers. “It could have gone the other way,” Paoletti says.

    So the baby boomers were raised in gender-specific clothing. Boys dressed like their fathers, girls like their mothers. Girls had to wear dresses to school, though unadorned styles and tomboy play clothes were acceptable.

    When the women’s liberation movement arrived in the mid-1960s, with its anti-feminine, anti-fashion message, the unisex look became the rage—but completely reversed from the time of young Franklin Roosevelt. Now young girls were dressing in masculine—or at least unfeminine—styles, devoid of gender hints. Paoletti found that in the 1970s, the Sears, Roebuck catalog pictured no pink toddler clothing for two years.

    “One of the ways [feminists] thought that girls were kind of lured into subservient roles as women is through clothing,” says Paoletti. “ ‘If we dress our girls more like boys and less like frilly little girls . . . they are going to have more options and feel freer to be active.’ ”

    John Money, a sexual identity researcher at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, argued that gender was primarily learned through social and environmental cues. “This was one of the drivers back in the ’70s of the argument that it’s ‘nurture not nature,’ ” Paoletti says.

    Gender-neutral clothing remained popular until about 1985. Paoletti remembers that year distinctly because it was between the births of her children, a girl in ’82 and a boy in ’86. “All of a sudden it wasn’t just a blue overall; it was a blue overall with a teddy bear holding a football,” she says. Disposable diapers were manufactured in pink and blue.

    Prenatal testing was a big reason for the change. Expectant parents learned the sex of their unborn baby and then went shopping for “girl” or “boy” merchandise. (“The more you individualize clothing, the more you can sell,” Paoletti says.) The pink fad spread from sleepers and crib sheets to big-ticket items such as strollers, car seats and riding toys. Affluent parents could conceivably decorate for baby No. 1, a girl, and start all over when the next child was a boy.

    Some young mothers who grew up in the 1980s deprived of pinks, lace, long hair and Barbies, Paoletti suggests, rejected the unisex look for their own daughters. “Even if they are still feminists, they are perceiving those things in a different light than the baby boomer feminists did,” she says. “They think even if they want their girl to be a surgeon, there’s nothing wrong if she is a very feminine surgeon.”

    Another important factor has been the rise of consumerism among children in recent decades. According to child development experts, children are just becoming conscious of their gender between ages 3 and 4, and they do not realize it’s permanent until age 6 or 7. At the same time, however, they are the subjects of sophisticated and pervasive advertising that tends to reinforce social conventions. “So they think, for example, that what makes someone female is having long hair and a dress,’’ says Paoletti. “They are so interested—and they are so adamant in their likes and dislikes.”

    In researching and writing her book, Paoletti says, she kept thinking about the parents of children who don’t conform to gender roles: Should they dress their children to conform, or allow them to express themselves in their dress? “One thing I can say now is that I’m not real keen on the gender binary—the idea that you have very masculine and very feminine things. The loss of neutral clothing is something that people should think more about. And there is a growing demand for neutral clothing for babies and toddlers now, too.”

    “There is a whole community out there of parents and kids who are struggling with ‘My son really doesn’t want to wear boy clothes, prefers to wear girl clothes.’ ” She hopes one audience for her book will be people who study gender clinically. The fashion world may have divided children into pink and blue, but in the world of real individuals, not all is black and white.

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/when-did-girls-start-wearing-pink-1370097/

    Unisex clothes were supposed to be a fashion in the early 1970s. I posted pictures of unisex clothes being sold in the Sears Catalog about 1973. Unisex flopped and then the next big thing came to be tailoring jeans specifically for women as in Anderson Cooper’s mom Gloria Swanson’s designer jeans.

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    To my recollection, designer jeans appeared suddenly in the summer of 1978, between my first and second years of college. I don't recall ever seeing designer jeans prior to the fall of 1978.
    , @Alden
    I remember Vogue pushing something it called androgeneous clothes.
  181. @Alden
    Interesting. A son in law is the youngest of 5 brothers. He is not gay or effeminate. But that’s just one person.

    This thread is getting a bit old, but I’ve found the immune system homosexuality hypothesis fairly reasonable and it is worth describing:

    There is no evidence of a ‘gay gene’ as you don’t see homosexuality running in families or inherited in a Mendelian way. Furthermore this would likely be maladaptive. There may be constellations of genes that predispose to homosexuality but currently there is really no evidence. So alternative hypotheses have been advanced. The immune hypothesis is backed by some evidence, specifically the data on number of older male siblings and odds of homosexuality. Some background:

    Anatomical males are made by a signaling molecule on the Y chromosome called SRY. As the baby develops this signal causes the formation of testes, penis, etc. If this signaling molecule or its receptor is absent due to mutation, the baby will default to female anatomy. For example XX is female, XY is male; someone missing a chromosome that only has X will develop as female (Turners syndrome). Likewise someone with a receptor mutation will develop as an anatomically normal female, and then at puberty fail to menstruate and (eventually) be discovered to be XY, a male, with a broken receptor. Note that the Y chromosome doesn’t contain the genes to make testes, etc.–it is a tiny chromosome without many genes–instead it has a gene to make a signal to tell all the other chromosomes to make the male bits and not the female bits.

    In light of this it is reasonable to hypothesize that there may be a related signaling molecule that drives the formation of an anatomically male brain, which includes male heterosexuality. Perhaps this signaling system is disrupted in the case of male homosexuals and an anatomically female brain develops instead. Note that male homosexuals, in addition to different sexual preferences, often display stereotypically female cognitive patterns of interests and abilities (e.g. interested in interior decorating, high verbal IQ, etc.)

    What might disrupt this signaling system? Obviously a mutation in the signal or receptor could cause this but that would be a relatively rare event. Given the (relatively) high prevalence of male homosexuality there may be an alternative mechanism. One possibility is that mother’s immune system could develop antibodies or some other response to the signaling molecule that then prevents it from working properly.

    Things like this are known to happen. For example if during a mother’s first pregnancy her baby’s blood type is O+, and mother’s is O-, she may develop a sensitization to O+ blood and develop antibodies against it. This usually doesn’t do much to the first pregnancy, but during the second pregnancy (or third, or fourth) these antibodies can attack the baby’s blood cells and cause anemia. (this is why you sometimes give pregnant women RhoGam)

    Women may have some immune response to the male signaling system that, like all immune responses, ramps up with each exposure to the antigen. So the immune response may increase with each male pregnancy, increasing the probability that the male develops an anatomically female brain and is homosexual.

    That is the common explanation I’ve heard for the # of siblings/homosexuality correlation data. However, there are likely multiple factors at play and that is only one of them. But as far as I know it is the only one backed by any evidence.

    • Replies: @notanon
    interesting theory
  182. I have been raised to be suspicious about Sweden. Sweden, in WW2, turned their back on Finland, Norway, Denmark, the Baltic countries: Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania. Sweden was considered a sell-out and a “shithole” country by the above countries for being a precious, scared, neurotic (that is Bergman’s whole point), un-manly country, and a very, very, very, haughty country towards its neighbors.

    Sweden is so over. Swedish men have been considered wusses since the 70’s when I came of age. Jokes about Swedish effeminate men have been the standard in all the other Nordic countries since the early 70’s. So…Sweden is a joke country…and, they, betrayed their “brothers” 2 times during the The World Wars. Schadenfreude is: Norway is soooo much richer than old Europe, Sweden, now. Sweden will be the first shithole Scandinavian country.

  183. @Steve Sailer
    Unisex clothes were supposed to be a fashion in the early 1970s. I posted pictures of unisex clothes being sold in the Sears Catalog about 1973. Unisex flopped and then the next big thing came to be tailoring jeans specifically for women as in Anderson Cooper's mom Gloria Swanson's designer jeans.

    To my recollection, designer jeans appeared suddenly in the summer of 1978, between my first and second years of college. I don’t recall ever seeing designer jeans prior to the fall of 1978.

  184. @Stan Adams

    People grow out of stuff, but it’s really hard if you’re an anorexic and people keep telling you, ‘You’re right, you really could stand to lose a few pounds.’
     
    I'm not a woman, but in my experience, people don't tell girls who look like Dachau laborers that they need to lose a few pounds.

    (Then again, maybe the anorexics all hang out together and fat-shame each other. "Carly, you look great! You're only one or two bouts of stomach flu away from perfection!")

    These days, there are lots of women waddling around who could stand to lose a few *dozen* pounds, or even a few *hundred* pounds. Whoever is fat-shaming these women isn't doing a particularly good job.

    “(Then again, maybe the anorexics all hang out together and fat-shame each other. “Carly, you look great! You’re only one or two bouts of stomach flu away from perfection!”)”

    They do. It’s called Pro-ana.

  185. @CCZ
    Search for her on You Tube and you find that "she" is "real" (below just one of dozens and dozens):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYpe-aGY9Eg

    I wrote “elaborate” hoax. But yes, it’s just me wishing it just wasn’t true, of course it’s real.

  186. @Intelligent Dasein
    Heartiste is liar and a subtle peddler of quasi-pornographic narratives who writes to promote his brand. If you read his posts critically, you can see that he simply makes things up out of whole cloth in order to make every story fit his Procrustean bed, even if the facts lead to the exact opposite conclusion. Good work, if you can get it.

    That story about sperm counts dropping in half over the last 40 years has been making the rounds for, well, at least 40 years. I first came across that particular nugget while thumbing through some old pop psychology paperbacks at my local college library. This occurred back in 1999. The publication date of the book in question was 1970.

    Incidentally, this practice of reading the paperback pabulum of yesteryear is highly informative. I used to be in the habit of picking up a few these books for a dollar apiece whenever the library would pull them out of circulation. This was part of my self-directed education, my independent historical research. It demonstrates pretty clearly both how the fads change and the people remain the same.

    Reading through the chapters about how to pick up women and improve your romantic life, and correcting for the period-dependent accidentals (e.g. the lionization of Ted Turner and the winking at congressmen's affairs with their staffers) what you found between the covers was nothing but---Heartiste, same as it ever was.

    In every era there is going to be a sizable pool of unhappy, frustrated, lonely men looking to improve their prospects, or perhaps just to relieve their mental anguish. Publishers, producers, and advertising gurus know all about them. They will forever be marketed the same products according to the same, time-tested ways, with the necessary adjustments made according to the prevailing fashions. In the literature of this subculture, testosterone levels will always be dropping, sperm counts will always be half of what their fathers' were, and women will always be "attracted to confidence." None of it ever makes a difference, but both the men and the market are eternal; eternal as youth and age, as the coquettish prostitutes hocking their wares, eternal as the human race itself.

    "Soyboi" is a ridiculous epithet, as any moment's honest reflection will show. People have been eating soy for thousands of years, many of them Asian peasant farmers who were half starving anyway, and yet they managed to reproduce the entire time. The boys at BuzzFeed, whatever their T-levels suggest, are not failures. They are the successful ones---media personalities, popular, wealthy, and connected. They are enjoying themselves; they have no need to feel like they are lacking in anything. I doubt they have any trouble finding women who will go with them. If you could transport yourself back to the age of Louis XIV, you would find that the Sun King's courtiers resembled these lads in every essential. Not nearly as "manly" as Jacques the stonemason, but managing the affairs of the nation with their lacy, skippy insouciance and cavorting with upper class women whenever they felt like it. If Voltaire were alive today, he'd be working at BuzzFeed.

    This obsession with insignificant biological distinctions serves only to becloud the understanding. I would be willing to bet that for any biological male who has passed through adolescence and attained to adulthood along a normal developmental pathway, subsequent testosterone levels mean nothing, i.e. they will not be shown to correlate with any aspect of behavior or life outcome as long as they are not pathologically depressed. By that time in life testosterone has already done its primary job of producing a sexually mature male and should only be manufactured and consumed at need, for maintenance and in times of stress. T-levels are not a factor in general social phenomena.

    The strange qualities of the modern male are the result of breeding too many minor aristocrats. Every suburb is a little Versailles where courtly excesses can flourish unabated.

    That PUA stuff certainly is the same old same old.

    A silent movie card from c.1920:

    And a magazine illustration from 1937:

  187. @miss marple
    The statistic behind these statistics may be the number of women who really wanted a little girl but the stork brought a boy. Boys are not nearly as much fun for a woman to raise in terms of dressing them or styling their hair. Seems shallow, I know, though neutering is a slight improvement over infanticide.

    Come to think of it this may eventually become a solution for problematic relationships with adult males...

    It’s very hard to ignore that in nearly every instance of young children with “gender dysphoria” that I have witnessed, either in person or on some stupid television show, the mother is extremely domineering. The father, if he plays any role whatsoever in the child’s life, is always slight and passive, allowing everyone else in his life to boss him around.

  188. @Intelligent Dasein
    Heartiste is liar and a subtle peddler of quasi-pornographic narratives who writes to promote his brand. If you read his posts critically, you can see that he simply makes things up out of whole cloth in order to make every story fit his Procrustean bed, even if the facts lead to the exact opposite conclusion. Good work, if you can get it.

    That story about sperm counts dropping in half over the last 40 years has been making the rounds for, well, at least 40 years. I first came across that particular nugget while thumbing through some old pop psychology paperbacks at my local college library. This occurred back in 1999. The publication date of the book in question was 1970.

    Incidentally, this practice of reading the paperback pabulum of yesteryear is highly informative. I used to be in the habit of picking up a few these books for a dollar apiece whenever the library would pull them out of circulation. This was part of my self-directed education, my independent historical research. It demonstrates pretty clearly both how the fads change and the people remain the same.

    Reading through the chapters about how to pick up women and improve your romantic life, and correcting for the period-dependent accidentals (e.g. the lionization of Ted Turner and the winking at congressmen's affairs with their staffers) what you found between the covers was nothing but---Heartiste, same as it ever was.

    In every era there is going to be a sizable pool of unhappy, frustrated, lonely men looking to improve their prospects, or perhaps just to relieve their mental anguish. Publishers, producers, and advertising gurus know all about them. They will forever be marketed the same products according to the same, time-tested ways, with the necessary adjustments made according to the prevailing fashions. In the literature of this subculture, testosterone levels will always be dropping, sperm counts will always be half of what their fathers' were, and women will always be "attracted to confidence." None of it ever makes a difference, but both the men and the market are eternal; eternal as youth and age, as the coquettish prostitutes hocking their wares, eternal as the human race itself.

    "Soyboi" is a ridiculous epithet, as any moment's honest reflection will show. People have been eating soy for thousands of years, many of them Asian peasant farmers who were half starving anyway, and yet they managed to reproduce the entire time. The boys at BuzzFeed, whatever their T-levels suggest, are not failures. They are the successful ones---media personalities, popular, wealthy, and connected. They are enjoying themselves; they have no need to feel like they are lacking in anything. I doubt they have any trouble finding women who will go with them. If you could transport yourself back to the age of Louis XIV, you would find that the Sun King's courtiers resembled these lads in every essential. Not nearly as "manly" as Jacques the stonemason, but managing the affairs of the nation with their lacy, skippy insouciance and cavorting with upper class women whenever they felt like it. If Voltaire were alive today, he'd be working at BuzzFeed.

    This obsession with insignificant biological distinctions serves only to becloud the understanding. I would be willing to bet that for any biological male who has passed through adolescence and attained to adulthood along a normal developmental pathway, subsequent testosterone levels mean nothing, i.e. they will not be shown to correlate with any aspect of behavior or life outcome as long as they are not pathologically depressed. By that time in life testosterone has already done its primary job of producing a sexually mature male and should only be manufactured and consumed at need, for maintenance and in times of stress. T-levels are not a factor in general social phenomena.

    The strange qualities of the modern male are the result of breeding too many minor aristocrats. Every suburb is a little Versailles where courtly excesses can flourish unabated.

    Eh. Heartiste may be mostly full of shit, but it doesn’t mean his advice is totally worthless. Based on experience, the general outline of his ideas (which admittedly isn’t particularly novel) is basically correct, even if it breaks down on particulars.

    Men and women have been conditioned by thousands of years of evolution to respond to certain cues. Personally, I discovered I could significantly improve my dating life just by dropping a lot of the so-called “beta behaviors” described by Heartiste et al. I didn’t even bother to learn “game” or any of that bullshit — just learned to trust my natural “flow.”

    It worked perfectly.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @notanon

    Personally, I discovered I could significantly improve my dating life just by dropping a lot of the so-called “beta behaviors”
     
    The media have been brain washing men into acting more "sensitive" since at least the 1980s and even if that is what a lot of women want on a rational level their genes want strong sons. You should always aim to appeal to the genes.
  189. @Thea
    The side effects of testosterone in females are not always reversible and leave them infertile, with permanent chest hair and other unpleasantness if they later decide they were wrong.

    Yes, there is one regretful Youtuber, a poor young woman who now unfortunately retains a man’s voice and facial stubble even though she has decided to “detransition”. Interestingly, in one video she mentioned how bull dyke lesbians are now becoming rare on the gay dating scene because so many are adapting to the times and identifying as trans men. Apparently the peer pressure to conform to the new ideology is strong.

  190. @3g4me
    "For example, what if there is some new pollutant or parasite in the environment in recent years that is screwing with the brains and/or hormones of young people?"

    Chateau Heartiste has had a number of posts about the staggering drop in average testosterone among young American males. He and his commenters link it to the extensive use of soy additives in a huge range of commercial foods as well as the BCP in plastic. Here is a link to one such post.

    Have to agree here. There is a huge and unprecedented increase in soy in the food supply. Soy is known to affect hormones. I have to think that the reason this obvious candidate for the rise of all kinds of sexual dysfunction is not being seriously investigated is an unholy alliance of soy growers and processors (who don’t want large markets closed off to them) plus the usual Poz suspects (who don’t want anyone to conceive of the Poz as a dysfunction rather than natural and good).

  191. @Buzz Mohawk

    ...what if there is some new pollutant or parasite in the environment in recent years that is screwing with the brains and/or hormones of young people?
     
    It may not be that, exactly. It may be the overwhelming prevalence now of electronic distractions, rapid digital editing, fast, jumpy music. Smart phones, computers and big screens channeling attacks on peace-of-mind and the ability to contemplate.

    Every new human now grows from infancy inside a barrage of video and sound, the likes of which nobody ever in history did before.

    If you believe that human outcomes are 50/50% nature/nurture, then you must wonder how all this new crap effects the outcomes for at least some new humans.

    Quite simply, what we now call "tech" is driving a significant percentage of our kids crazy.

    “I was born in a house with the television always on.”&mash;Talking Heads, “Love for Sale”

  192. @SimpleSong
    Yeah; I'm curious regarding whether in those 'third gender' cultures, the third gender people are mostly male homosexuals vs. gender dysphoria people, since they seem to be distinct populations.

    female infanticide + demand for prostitution -> pederasty and “3rd gender”

    imo

  193. @SimpleSong
    This thread is getting a bit old, but I've found the immune system homosexuality hypothesis fairly reasonable and it is worth describing:

    There is no evidence of a 'gay gene' as you don't see homosexuality running in families or inherited in a Mendelian way. Furthermore this would likely be maladaptive. There may be constellations of genes that predispose to homosexuality but currently there is really no evidence. So alternative hypotheses have been advanced. The immune hypothesis is backed by some evidence, specifically the data on number of older male siblings and odds of homosexuality. Some background:

    Anatomical males are made by a signaling molecule on the Y chromosome called SRY. As the baby develops this signal causes the formation of testes, penis, etc. If this signaling molecule or its receptor is absent due to mutation, the baby will default to female anatomy. For example XX is female, XY is male; someone missing a chromosome that only has X will develop as female (Turners syndrome). Likewise someone with a receptor mutation will develop as an anatomically normal female, and then at puberty fail to menstruate and (eventually) be discovered to be XY, a male, with a broken receptor. Note that the Y chromosome doesn't contain the genes to make testes, etc.--it is a tiny chromosome without many genes--instead it has a gene to make a signal to tell all the other chromosomes to make the male bits and not the female bits.

    In light of this it is reasonable to hypothesize that there may be a related signaling molecule that drives the formation of an anatomically male brain, which includes male heterosexuality. Perhaps this signaling system is disrupted in the case of male homosexuals and an anatomically female brain develops instead. Note that male homosexuals, in addition to different sexual preferences, often display stereotypically female cognitive patterns of interests and abilities (e.g. interested in interior decorating, high verbal IQ, etc.)

    What might disrupt this signaling system? Obviously a mutation in the signal or receptor could cause this but that would be a relatively rare event. Given the (relatively) high prevalence of male homosexuality there may be an alternative mechanism. One possibility is that mother's immune system could develop antibodies or some other response to the signaling molecule that then prevents it from working properly.

    Things like this are known to happen. For example if during a mother's first pregnancy her baby's blood type is O+, and mother's is O-, she may develop a sensitization to O+ blood and develop antibodies against it. This usually doesn't do much to the first pregnancy, but during the second pregnancy (or third, or fourth) these antibodies can attack the baby's blood cells and cause anemia. (this is why you sometimes give pregnant women RhoGam)

    Women may have some immune response to the male signaling system that, like all immune responses, ramps up with each exposure to the antigen. So the immune response may increase with each male pregnancy, increasing the probability that the male develops an anatomically female brain and is homosexual.

    That is the common explanation I've heard for the # of siblings/homosexuality correlation data. However, there are likely multiple factors at play and that is only one of them. But as far as I know it is the only one backed by any evidence.

    interesting theory

  194. @Mr. Blank
    Eh. Heartiste may be mostly full of shit, but it doesn’t mean his advice is totally worthless. Based on experience, the general outline of his ideas (which admittedly isn’t particularly novel) is basically correct, even if it breaks down on particulars.

    Men and women have been conditioned by thousands of years of evolution to respond to certain cues. Personally, I discovered I could significantly improve my dating life just by dropping a lot of the so-called “beta behaviors” described by Heartiste et al. I didn’t even bother to learn “game” or any of that bullshit — just learned to trust my natural “flow.”

    It worked perfectly.

    Personally, I discovered I could significantly improve my dating life just by dropping a lot of the so-called “beta behaviors”

    The media have been brain washing men into acting more “sensitive” since at least the 1980s and even if that is what a lot of women want on a rational level their genes want strong sons. You should always aim to appeal to the genes.

  195. @Intelligent Dasein
    Heartiste is liar and a subtle peddler of quasi-pornographic narratives who writes to promote his brand. If you read his posts critically, you can see that he simply makes things up out of whole cloth in order to make every story fit his Procrustean bed, even if the facts lead to the exact opposite conclusion. Good work, if you can get it.

    That story about sperm counts dropping in half over the last 40 years has been making the rounds for, well, at least 40 years. I first came across that particular nugget while thumbing through some old pop psychology paperbacks at my local college library. This occurred back in 1999. The publication date of the book in question was 1970.

    Incidentally, this practice of reading the paperback pabulum of yesteryear is highly informative. I used to be in the habit of picking up a few these books for a dollar apiece whenever the library would pull them out of circulation. This was part of my self-directed education, my independent historical research. It demonstrates pretty clearly both how the fads change and the people remain the same.

    Reading through the chapters about how to pick up women and improve your romantic life, and correcting for the period-dependent accidentals (e.g. the lionization of Ted Turner and the winking at congressmen's affairs with their staffers) what you found between the covers was nothing but---Heartiste, same as it ever was.

    In every era there is going to be a sizable pool of unhappy, frustrated, lonely men looking to improve their prospects, or perhaps just to relieve their mental anguish. Publishers, producers, and advertising gurus know all about them. They will forever be marketed the same products according to the same, time-tested ways, with the necessary adjustments made according to the prevailing fashions. In the literature of this subculture, testosterone levels will always be dropping, sperm counts will always be half of what their fathers' were, and women will always be "attracted to confidence." None of it ever makes a difference, but both the men and the market are eternal; eternal as youth and age, as the coquettish prostitutes hocking their wares, eternal as the human race itself.

    "Soyboi" is a ridiculous epithet, as any moment's honest reflection will show. People have been eating soy for thousands of years, many of them Asian peasant farmers who were half starving anyway, and yet they managed to reproduce the entire time. The boys at BuzzFeed, whatever their T-levels suggest, are not failures. They are the successful ones---media personalities, popular, wealthy, and connected. They are enjoying themselves; they have no need to feel like they are lacking in anything. I doubt they have any trouble finding women who will go with them. If you could transport yourself back to the age of Louis XIV, you would find that the Sun King's courtiers resembled these lads in every essential. Not nearly as "manly" as Jacques the stonemason, but managing the affairs of the nation with their lacy, skippy insouciance and cavorting with upper class women whenever they felt like it. If Voltaire were alive today, he'd be working at BuzzFeed.

    This obsession with insignificant biological distinctions serves only to becloud the understanding. I would be willing to bet that for any biological male who has passed through adolescence and attained to adulthood along a normal developmental pathway, subsequent testosterone levels mean nothing, i.e. they will not be shown to correlate with any aspect of behavior or life outcome as long as they are not pathologically depressed. By that time in life testosterone has already done its primary job of producing a sexually mature male and should only be manufactured and consumed at need, for maintenance and in times of stress. T-levels are not a factor in general social phenomena.

    The strange qualities of the modern male are the result of breeding too many minor aristocrats. Every suburb is a little Versailles where courtly excesses can flourish unabated.

    “Soyboi” is a ridiculous epithet, as any moment’s honest reflection will show. People have been eating soy for thousands of years, many of them Asian peasant farmers who were half starving anyway, and yet they managed to reproduce the entire time.

    did they have it in their infant formula back then?

    #

    another candidate is the erucic acid in seed oils – which like soy are now in almost all processed foods

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erucic_acid

  196. @Intelligent Dasein
    Heartiste is liar and a subtle peddler of quasi-pornographic narratives who writes to promote his brand. If you read his posts critically, you can see that he simply makes things up out of whole cloth in order to make every story fit his Procrustean bed, even if the facts lead to the exact opposite conclusion. Good work, if you can get it.

    That story about sperm counts dropping in half over the last 40 years has been making the rounds for, well, at least 40 years. I first came across that particular nugget while thumbing through some old pop psychology paperbacks at my local college library. This occurred back in 1999. The publication date of the book in question was 1970.

    Incidentally, this practice of reading the paperback pabulum of yesteryear is highly informative. I used to be in the habit of picking up a few these books for a dollar apiece whenever the library would pull them out of circulation. This was part of my self-directed education, my independent historical research. It demonstrates pretty clearly both how the fads change and the people remain the same.

    Reading through the chapters about how to pick up women and improve your romantic life, and correcting for the period-dependent accidentals (e.g. the lionization of Ted Turner and the winking at congressmen's affairs with their staffers) what you found between the covers was nothing but---Heartiste, same as it ever was.

    In every era there is going to be a sizable pool of unhappy, frustrated, lonely men looking to improve their prospects, or perhaps just to relieve their mental anguish. Publishers, producers, and advertising gurus know all about them. They will forever be marketed the same products according to the same, time-tested ways, with the necessary adjustments made according to the prevailing fashions. In the literature of this subculture, testosterone levels will always be dropping, sperm counts will always be half of what their fathers' were, and women will always be "attracted to confidence." None of it ever makes a difference, but both the men and the market are eternal; eternal as youth and age, as the coquettish prostitutes hocking their wares, eternal as the human race itself.

    "Soyboi" is a ridiculous epithet, as any moment's honest reflection will show. People have been eating soy for thousands of years, many of them Asian peasant farmers who were half starving anyway, and yet they managed to reproduce the entire time. The boys at BuzzFeed, whatever their T-levels suggest, are not failures. They are the successful ones---media personalities, popular, wealthy, and connected. They are enjoying themselves; they have no need to feel like they are lacking in anything. I doubt they have any trouble finding women who will go with them. If you could transport yourself back to the age of Louis XIV, you would find that the Sun King's courtiers resembled these lads in every essential. Not nearly as "manly" as Jacques the stonemason, but managing the affairs of the nation with their lacy, skippy insouciance and cavorting with upper class women whenever they felt like it. If Voltaire were alive today, he'd be working at BuzzFeed.

    This obsession with insignificant biological distinctions serves only to becloud the understanding. I would be willing to bet that for any biological male who has passed through adolescence and attained to adulthood along a normal developmental pathway, subsequent testosterone levels mean nothing, i.e. they will not be shown to correlate with any aspect of behavior or life outcome as long as they are not pathologically depressed. By that time in life testosterone has already done its primary job of producing a sexually mature male and should only be manufactured and consumed at need, for maintenance and in times of stress. T-levels are not a factor in general social phenomena.

    The strange qualities of the modern male are the result of breeding too many minor aristocrats. Every suburb is a little Versailles where courtly excesses can flourish unabated.

    Great comment

  197. @Steve Sailer
    Unisex clothes were supposed to be a fashion in the early 1970s. I posted pictures of unisex clothes being sold in the Sears Catalog about 1973. Unisex flopped and then the next big thing came to be tailoring jeans specifically for women as in Anderson Cooper's mom Gloria Swanson's designer jeans.

    I remember Vogue pushing something it called androgeneous clothes.

  198. @jimmyriddle
    Mostly crazy mothers.

    There was a case in England last year in which a 6 year-old boy was being sent to school in a dress.

    His father was given custody and within hours the whole situation was resolved. The kid was wearing boys' clothes and playing football.

    Mostly crazy mothers.

    There was a case in England last year in which a 6 year-old boy was being sent to school in a dress.

  199. @Almost Missouri
    Eleven looks about right for tattoos/piercings. Not sure about her driving history.

    ok!

  200. This is more likely due to social and psychological factors.
    To me, the most famous case remains Heliogabalus. Judging based on that, the phenomenon is probably due to excessive affluence, decadence, corruption, the importation of dangerous foreign cults, and to some negative feminine influence.

    Heliogabalus was completely dominated by his mother and grandmother. Could it have been Muenchausen by proxy, as the title suggests? Or some sort of early childhood sexual abuse?

    Since it keeps reoccurring in similar historical contexts, what goes on in the specific individuals’ minds should matter less (though it could be fascinating for a psychologist); what’s even more important is the kind of society that encourages, rewards, and glorifies this behavior.

    Whatever caused it, it’s a symptom of societal decay, of a people that has lost its way, and it probably portends big upheavals ahead, judging by Heliogabalus’s example. Even if Western society survives, it will be weakened and organized on a different basis going forward. Things will never be the same.

    Also going by this example, I’m curious how the US Armed Forces would react to an order from President Chelsea Manning, 3-4 years into his term.

  201. @Profjmb
    See: https://4thwavenow.com/2017/12/07/gender-dysphoria-is-not-one-thing/

    Especially Rapid Onset type.

    See: https://4thwavenow.com/2017/12/07/gender-dysphoria-is-not-one-thing/

    An excellent and very informative article.

    As well as clarifying gender dysphoria, the authors mention the damage that ill-informed “therapists” can do; and point out that certain damaging ideas find a natural home in Gender Studies departments.

  202. @SimpleSong
    Google is a thing, you know. You can look this up. It's not my theory, it's quite well established. Here's a summary:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternal_birth_order_and_male_sexual_orientation

    "According to several studies, each older brother increases a male child's naturally occurring odds of having a homosexual orientation by 28–48%."

    So if the chance of having a gay first son is, say, 3%, then the second son is maybe 4%, third 5.2%, etc. See how that works? It's not deterministic, it changes the probability. Even the tenth son is still more likely to be heterosexual than homosexual, but he is much more likely to be homosexual than someone who is a first son.

    Since this has been observed repeatedly, the question is why. The most plausible theory put forward so far is that male homosexuality is mediated by some immune response in the mother to something that causes men to develop heterosexual tendencies. Remember that immunity and pregnancy are super complicated and very delicately balanced--normally cells that are not genetically identical to the host are going to be quickly destroyed by the immune system, but that would make pregnancy impossible. So pregnancy involves immunosupression of some degree, women with lupus or multiiple sclerosis for example tend to have remissions of their symptoms during pregnancy. The belief is that prior pregnancies with males can cause immune sensitization to some protein that is unique to males and determines heterosexual preferences.

    So does that sound a little bit more plausible? Or do you think men are gay because Jesus is mad at them?

    So does that sound a little bit more plausible?

    Yes. I do have questions about the methodology. And anyone that quotes Kinsey is suspect. The misuse of ‘odds’ on the Wikipedia page is, well, odd. But they do seem to have a great deal of empirical evidence. I did not see studies about male children born after a gay sibling, which puzzles me. If something goes wrong, why doesn’t it stay wrong? The most plausible explanation I have seen is that their gestation is during a stressful period for the mother. That could account for later reversals. But I wouldn’t plant the flag on that hill without solid research to back it.

    Or do you think men are gay because Jesus is mad at them?

    Hah! Jesus loves them. It’s God that hates them. Don’t you read the Westboro Baptist placards? 😉

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    I think it's probably multifactorial in the end. I have a feeling even though we take male heterosexuality for granted a bunch of things have to go right for this to happen and any disruption during development can cause things to go off track. 'Every happy family is the same, every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way', as it were...
  203. @Intelligent Dasein
    Heartiste is liar and a subtle peddler of quasi-pornographic narratives who writes to promote his brand. If you read his posts critically, you can see that he simply makes things up out of whole cloth in order to make every story fit his Procrustean bed, even if the facts lead to the exact opposite conclusion. Good work, if you can get it.

    That story about sperm counts dropping in half over the last 40 years has been making the rounds for, well, at least 40 years. I first came across that particular nugget while thumbing through some old pop psychology paperbacks at my local college library. This occurred back in 1999. The publication date of the book in question was 1970.

    Incidentally, this practice of reading the paperback pabulum of yesteryear is highly informative. I used to be in the habit of picking up a few these books for a dollar apiece whenever the library would pull them out of circulation. This was part of my self-directed education, my independent historical research. It demonstrates pretty clearly both how the fads change and the people remain the same.

    Reading through the chapters about how to pick up women and improve your romantic life, and correcting for the period-dependent accidentals (e.g. the lionization of Ted Turner and the winking at congressmen's affairs with their staffers) what you found between the covers was nothing but---Heartiste, same as it ever was.

    In every era there is going to be a sizable pool of unhappy, frustrated, lonely men looking to improve their prospects, or perhaps just to relieve their mental anguish. Publishers, producers, and advertising gurus know all about them. They will forever be marketed the same products according to the same, time-tested ways, with the necessary adjustments made according to the prevailing fashions. In the literature of this subculture, testosterone levels will always be dropping, sperm counts will always be half of what their fathers' were, and women will always be "attracted to confidence." None of it ever makes a difference, but both the men and the market are eternal; eternal as youth and age, as the coquettish prostitutes hocking their wares, eternal as the human race itself.

    "Soyboi" is a ridiculous epithet, as any moment's honest reflection will show. People have been eating soy for thousands of years, many of them Asian peasant farmers who were half starving anyway, and yet they managed to reproduce the entire time. The boys at BuzzFeed, whatever their T-levels suggest, are not failures. They are the successful ones---media personalities, popular, wealthy, and connected. They are enjoying themselves; they have no need to feel like they are lacking in anything. I doubt they have any trouble finding women who will go with them. If you could transport yourself back to the age of Louis XIV, you would find that the Sun King's courtiers resembled these lads in every essential. Not nearly as "manly" as Jacques the stonemason, but managing the affairs of the nation with their lacy, skippy insouciance and cavorting with upper class women whenever they felt like it. If Voltaire were alive today, he'd be working at BuzzFeed.

    This obsession with insignificant biological distinctions serves only to becloud the understanding. I would be willing to bet that for any biological male who has passed through adolescence and attained to adulthood along a normal developmental pathway, subsequent testosterone levels mean nothing, i.e. they will not be shown to correlate with any aspect of behavior or life outcome as long as they are not pathologically depressed. By that time in life testosterone has already done its primary job of producing a sexually mature male and should only be manufactured and consumed at need, for maintenance and in times of stress. T-levels are not a factor in general social phenomena.

    The strange qualities of the modern male are the result of breeding too many minor aristocrats. Every suburb is a little Versailles where courtly excesses can flourish unabated.

    People have been eating fermented soy paste from the beans, not putting other kinds of soy products into every food item in the market (as “vegetable oil”), for thousands of years.

  204. @Intelligent Dasein
    Heartiste is liar and a subtle peddler of quasi-pornographic narratives who writes to promote his brand. If you read his posts critically, you can see that he simply makes things up out of whole cloth in order to make every story fit his Procrustean bed, even if the facts lead to the exact opposite conclusion. Good work, if you can get it.

    That story about sperm counts dropping in half over the last 40 years has been making the rounds for, well, at least 40 years. I first came across that particular nugget while thumbing through some old pop psychology paperbacks at my local college library. This occurred back in 1999. The publication date of the book in question was 1970.

    Incidentally, this practice of reading the paperback pabulum of yesteryear is highly informative. I used to be in the habit of picking up a few these books for a dollar apiece whenever the library would pull them out of circulation. This was part of my self-directed education, my independent historical research. It demonstrates pretty clearly both how the fads change and the people remain the same.

    Reading through the chapters about how to pick up women and improve your romantic life, and correcting for the period-dependent accidentals (e.g. the lionization of Ted Turner and the winking at congressmen's affairs with their staffers) what you found between the covers was nothing but---Heartiste, same as it ever was.

    In every era there is going to be a sizable pool of unhappy, frustrated, lonely men looking to improve their prospects, or perhaps just to relieve their mental anguish. Publishers, producers, and advertising gurus know all about them. They will forever be marketed the same products according to the same, time-tested ways, with the necessary adjustments made according to the prevailing fashions. In the literature of this subculture, testosterone levels will always be dropping, sperm counts will always be half of what their fathers' were, and women will always be "attracted to confidence." None of it ever makes a difference, but both the men and the market are eternal; eternal as youth and age, as the coquettish prostitutes hocking their wares, eternal as the human race itself.

    "Soyboi" is a ridiculous epithet, as any moment's honest reflection will show. People have been eating soy for thousands of years, many of them Asian peasant farmers who were half starving anyway, and yet they managed to reproduce the entire time. The boys at BuzzFeed, whatever their T-levels suggest, are not failures. They are the successful ones---media personalities, popular, wealthy, and connected. They are enjoying themselves; they have no need to feel like they are lacking in anything. I doubt they have any trouble finding women who will go with them. If you could transport yourself back to the age of Louis XIV, you would find that the Sun King's courtiers resembled these lads in every essential. Not nearly as "manly" as Jacques the stonemason, but managing the affairs of the nation with their lacy, skippy insouciance and cavorting with upper class women whenever they felt like it. If Voltaire were alive today, he'd be working at BuzzFeed.

    This obsession with insignificant biological distinctions serves only to becloud the understanding. I would be willing to bet that for any biological male who has passed through adolescence and attained to adulthood along a normal developmental pathway, subsequent testosterone levels mean nothing, i.e. they will not be shown to correlate with any aspect of behavior or life outcome as long as they are not pathologically depressed. By that time in life testosterone has already done its primary job of producing a sexually mature male and should only be manufactured and consumed at need, for maintenance and in times of stress. T-levels are not a factor in general social phenomena.

    The strange qualities of the modern male are the result of breeding too many minor aristocrats. Every suburb is a little Versailles where courtly excesses can flourish unabated.

    Heartiste delivers his share of BS. His strength is in delivering timeless dating advice to those of us who never heard it in our formative years. Such advice was severely deprecated in the 70s and 80s, when it was not to be found in any public library I visited. Possibly as a result of 2nd-wave feminism, “red pill” advice became deeply unfashionable. To attract women, “be yourself”, they told us. “Women naturally pair for life, and are let down by men’s promiscuity”. Yeah, right.

    Above all, the life plan that worked (or appeared to work) for our fathers – developing a well-paid career that would support a family – is no longer sufficient in the marriage market. Perhaps this really is something new, because a well-paid man was a catch in the days when welfare was limited, and few women could earn enough to support a family.

    “Soyboi” is only a metaphor for a man who prefers soy to a decent steak (ideally acquired by lassooing a steer, slaughtering it with a bullfighter’s sword, and butchering it himself).

  205. @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    So does that sound a little bit more plausible?
     
    Yes. I do have questions about the methodology. And anyone that quotes Kinsey is suspect. The misuse of 'odds' on the Wikipedia page is, well, odd. But they do seem to have a great deal of empirical evidence. I did not see studies about male children born after a gay sibling, which puzzles me. If something goes wrong, why doesn't it stay wrong? The most plausible explanation I have seen is that their gestation is during a stressful period for the mother. That could account for later reversals. But I wouldn't plant the flag on that hill without solid research to back it.

    Or do you think men are gay because Jesus is mad at them?
     
    Hah! Jesus loves them. It's God that hates them. Don't you read the Westboro Baptist placards? ;)

    I think it’s probably multifactorial in the end. I have a feeling even though we take male heterosexuality for granted a bunch of things have to go right for this to happen and any disruption during development can cause things to go off track. ‘Every happy family is the same, every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way’, as it were…

  206. @Jack D
    The hormone treatments are probably at least somewhat reversible but the real crimes will be when they start chopping off parts of minors . I'm (not) looking forward to the stories that these poor kids will write (and hopefully the indictments that will be brought) when they reach adulthood and realize how they have been abused and mutilated and this week's fad has long faded.
    • Replies: @notanon
    those parents look like a parody of virtue-signalling narcissism
  207. @Stan Adams
    The cosmopolitan elites are the ones who are driving all of this insanity. They're the ones who are ramming tranny-lib down everyone's throats. (Do you honestly believe that high-school principals in rural North Carolina were the ones who created the bathroom controversy? There wouldn't even be a controversy if it weren't for the whackjobs in the coastal enclaves.) No one has the luxury of pretending that trannies doesn't exist when folks are being persecuted (and prosecuted) for not going along with the program.

    SJWs always double down. If you tell them that Trump was elected because normal Americans are sick and tired of the immivasion/BLM/WWT freak show, they don't think, "Oh, yes, you're absolutely right! We need to back off!" They think, "We must work overtime to destroy Trump! The bigoted sheep must pay for their disobedience! Anyone who opposes us must be destroyed! Nothing can stand in our way! We must prevail!"

    In 2004, gay marriage lost in every state where it was on the ballot. (As late as 2008, Obama felt compelled to pretend to oppose it.) Faced with such overwhelming defeat, did the SJWs give up? Nope. They made gay marriage a holy crusade. "We're on the right side of history!" became their battle cry. The activist left was fanatically devoted to the cause, and the "mainstream" left was supportive; many if not most "conservatives" were fair-weather traditionalists (at best) who were only too willing to capitulate in face of an unrelenting onslaught. The gay-marriage agitators pushed and pushed and pushed until their opponents threw up their hands and shrieked, "Fine! We're sick of hearing about it! We'll give you what you want!" By 2012, the tide had turned decisively.

    The same thing happened with tranny rights.

    If you believe that you can sit down with these people and have a rational discussion with them, then you are hopelessly naive. You can't negotiate with nuts. They will not hesitate to destroy anyone who disagrees with them. If you don't have the stomach for that kind of a fight, then you should be prepared to lose.

    And it’s not like the Left actually gave a damn about the T’s. It was all about rubbing the Deplorables nose in something they did not like. A pure exercise of power.

  208. @Jim Don Bob
    Like this? https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/884297236338819072/photo/1

    those parents look like a parody of virtue-signalling narcissism

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