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I quite agree. It seems like a match made in heaven: after all, Stacey Abrams invented in 2018 the patriotic duty of refusing to admit you lost the election. And the FBI Building is as lovely as Ms. Abrams:

 
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  1. Name it after some Jewish oligarch. Like Sheldon Adelson, Haim Saban, or George Soros. It’d be more honest that way.

    Federal Bureau of Israel

    Central Israeli Agency

    Netanyahu Security Agency

    By the way, back in 2014, Senator Ted Cruz was giving a speech to a group of Arab-American Christians. The speech was supposed to be about the persecution of Christians in the Middle East. However, Ted Cruz went off topic and started praising Israel. He then got booed. After that, he criticized the crowd and asked them to “stand with Israel and the Jews.” Then he said “if you will not stand with Israel and the Jews, then I will not stand with you.” Then he walked off the stage angrily.

    Start watching at 27 seconds.

    This country is funny in so many ways.

  2. AndrewR says:
    @nebulafox

    What I don’t understand is why the FBI did go so hard against the “civil rights activists.” We all recognize now that MLK and his ilk were artificially promoted by TPTB in order to further an anti-white hegemonic neoliberal imperial Jewish supremacist agenda. Why did the FBI not get the memo? Or had the “long march through the institutions” not reached the FBI yet?

  3. nebulafox says:

    Needless to say, that Hoover used those same tactics of dubious legality to break the KKK forever-3 years before corresponding operations against black nationalists-does not make it onto MSNBC.

    (I’m not defending Hoover: he pioneered the creepy state, after all. But he wasn’t some mustache twirling cartoon villain figure. He was aware enough to realize his tactics were going the way of Jim Crow by the early 1970s, in terms of social acceptability, and opposed Nixon’s Huston Plan as a result.)

  4. It was always funny to hear Trump say, “the lovely Lisa Page”.

    If we can’t abolish the FBI, the Lisa Page building has a nice ring to it.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  5. Wilkey says:

    Sane democratic countries require people to be dead before naming buildings or Navy ships after them. So we shouldn’t name anything after Stacey Abrams yet. But if she wants to speed up the process, I won’t object.

  6. Polistra says:

    the people who built this country, for free — and who again managed to save the country from itself

    Quoted for fun. People really believe this, btw. Lots of people.

    If you wypipos give up every single bit of your wealth, and end up homeless, naked and freezing like in a Tarantino movie, that still won’t be justice. It’ll just be a start.

  7. MattinLA says:

    It’s “square off.”

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  8. Franz says:

    Better idea:

    Bulldoze the building and evaporate the FBI.

    Hoover’s “rule by blackmail” is being done far better by the ADL. You might even say that sector of the government has been privatized.

    The FBI was always a slap in the face to Federalism anyway. Police have enough to deal with without a “top cop” and his minions. Hoover is long gone. Let his misbegotten agency join him.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
  9. Anon[350] • Disclaimer says:

  10. OT:

    Matt Boling just won the NCAA indoor 200 meters with a run of 20.19 seconds, which is the new NCAA record. it is the number 5 fastest 200 meters indoor performance of all time.

    there is a pretty good chance he will run 19 seconds outdoors this summer.

  11. Ed says:

    The Hoover name on the FBI building won’t survive Biden’s first term now.

    • Replies: @bomag
    , @Reg Cæsar
    , @Jimmee
  12. bomag says:
    @Ed

    I’m sure we’ll need chalkboards on all these buildings to keep up with the changing fads of the Woke. Or a big screen so they can just scroll all the Worthies,

    • Agree: Gordo, Alden
    • LOL: donut, fish
    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
  13. El Dato says:
    @Polistra

    and who again managed to save the country from itself

    I wonder whether this alludes to

    1) Blacks for Biden
    2) Black Looting Management
    3) Black Defense Secretary
    4) Black Capitol Police Chief
    5) Black Mayor of Washington DC
    6) That Oprah interview of the ex-Royal Pair
    7) The guy who shot Miss Babbitt in the head

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
  14. The FBI building isn’t, ahem, curvy enough to be named after Ms. Abrams.

    • Replies: @Anon
  15. Well.

    Hoover is one of the few major American “public servants” we know for a fact was much worse than Stacey Abrams.

    So not the hill I’m going to die on. And besides, the sooner people realize what the FBI is (the armed law enforcement and spying wing of your enemies), the better.

    • Agree: mc23, ben tillman, Mr. Anon
  16. Mr. Anon says:

    The media tells me that what Stacey Abrams believes about the 2018 gubenatorial election in Georgie is a “conspiracy theory”, at lest if it is espoused about the 2020 election by anyone who is not Stacey Abrams.

  17. @prime noticer

    Is he going to make the Olympic team? It’s pretty hard to make the Olympic team, although I guess there are 6 spots for the 4x100m relay and 6 for the 4×400 but only 3 for the individual events.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    , @Father O'Hara
  18. The Tiffany D. Cross Ministry of Truth Building:

    • LOL: Gary in Gramercy
    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  19. I object. Quoting the immortal Kathy Shaidle, this suggestion makes me as angry as a zombie with a mouthful of Joe Biden’s brains.

    Why change the name of the Hoover building? I’ve read somewhere that Hoover was a transvestite, so wouldn’t changing the name be homophobic, or transphobic or something?

    And besides that, the lovely Miss Abrams already has the M1 main battle tank named after her — and appropriately too — let’s spread the glory around a little. We can’t name everything after her.

    And naming things after fallible humans is destined to fail. Tank will at some date in the near future be found to have committed some heinous offense against fashionable thought — perhaps by being insufficiently anti-white — and we will have to change the building’s name again. This is tiresome and expensive.

    Let’s cut to the ultimate name now. Rename the FBI building “The Ministry of Love”.

    • LOL: Old Prude
  20. MEH 0910 says:

    Bananas – J. Edgar Hoover

  21. Hey, I’m taking bets on how long before our whole system collapses and we can’t get groceries at the store anymore. You know, like, when does the gas stop flowing? When do the banks stop working? When does that brown, vaguely South Asian medical person give you the wrong shot?

    When do we all descend into a Communist-like hell of crumbling concrete and limited travel?

    Oh, we already have limited travel, and things are crumbling.

    But HEY! HO! The stock indexes are soaring! Rejoice!

    You watch. You experienced a little glimpse of it when you couldn’t buy toilet paper or paper towels during the early stage of the still-ongoing corona nonsense. You WILL experience what it was like in Eastern Europe. You WILL find yourself unable to buy simple necessities. You WILL suffer.

    So, laugh it up, people, while you still can. Party while the Titanic sinks. That’s what I’m doing, but I have a life boat.

  22. Polistra says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Don’t even know what y’all wypipos is talking about. Anyone can see they gave the white boy a head start. Happen every time. SmDH.

    • LOL: Dan Hayes
  23. @Wade Hampton

    Hoover was a transvestite, so wouldn’t changing the name be homophobic, or transphobic or something?

    Now that’s thinking! I bet he was trans-racial too, but they didn’t have a name for that yet. Or maybe it was just a suntan.

    • Replies: @By-tor
  24. Unit472 says:

    Hoover is the appropriate name for the FBI headquarters building. J. Edgar’s organization was,like Hoover himself, a fraud built on fake PR narrative s. After being outwitted and humiliated by Depression Era criminals like “ Pretty Boy” Floyd and John Dillinger, Hoover came up with his “ Public Enemy” list and, being unable or unwilling to apprehend them, he simply had them shot and killed-

    In the modern era the FBI’s legacy of incompetence has continued. Tipped off that Pulse nightclub shooter Omar Marteen was a dangerous Islamic extremist the FBI failed. When another citizen noticed that school shooter Nicholas Cruz has self identified himself as a “ Professional School Shooter”in internet posts the FBI claimed it could not locate the person so no investigation was conducted until after 17 people were shot to death at a Miami high school.

    The FBI is, and has always been, a corrupt agency.It has some good scientific labs but it’s a total failure as a national police force.

    • Replies: @iDeplorable
  25. So, are we renaming it the BBW Building?

  26. @Buzz Mohawk

    You watch. You experienced a little glimpse of it when you couldn’t buy toilet paper or paper towels during the early stage of the still-ongoing corona nonsense. You WILL experience what it was like in Eastern Europe. You WILL find yourself unable to buy simple necessities. You WILL suffer.

    You’ll learnto buy the things the State promotes and readily delivers and convert those to daily use. In the USSR, it was easy to get the Complete Works of Lenin and use that for toilet paper … isn’t Obama already on his fourth bio? Pray for the internet to go down so they have to actually keep printing things.

    The Greens might be careful what they wish for, because communism was an environmental disaster.

  27. @Buzz Mohawk

    The problem is, nothing happens that fast and a “big collapse” never comes. If things continue we just slowly brown out over generations.

    Ancient India, which was once ruled by Aryans, didn’t collapse in a dramatic moment, it just slid into permanent misery over centuries as the Whites were bred out.

    South Africa looks like it’s on the verge of being a failed state. But Whites are less than 10% of the population, far less than the USA. Countries like Brazil and Mexico are still minimally functional. Conditions are bad for most people but they aren’t starving.

    I see a lot of people pinning their hopes on everything falling part in the next 10 or 20 years and I don’t think that’s likely.

    However, Howard Ruff was making money off the concept way back in the 70s:

  28. mc23 says:

    The time to rename the FBI building is After Stacey falls off the roof. You’re typically deceased before you get the honor.

    If suppose if you had to match a building to person the two have the same aesthetic appeal.

    I’d probably give the edge to the building and of course it doesn’t talk.

  29. Gordo says:

    Years ago I read Anthony Summers bio of Hoover.

    According to Mr Summers J Edgar was a homosexual and of mixed race, would that not help slow the cancellation.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @Alden
  30. @Wilkey

    You’re thinking the Mama Cass Elliot route — choking to death on a ham sandwich? (For Cass — born Ellen Naomi Cohen — it was more like divine retribution. And before someone jumps in to correct the record, I know the official story is Cass died of a heart attack. But as the newspaper editor in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance said, “When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.”)

    For Stacey Abrams, the supreme irony would be choking to death on a salad. (“See? I tried to eat healthy, and look what happened!”)

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  31. Hibernian says:
    @Polistra

    I missed the log cabins in Wisconsin built by slave labor.

  32. fnn says:
    @Wade Hampton

    It’s widely said the Hoover Building can’t be renamed only because the Hawaii Congressional delegation would informally veto it. That’s because Hoover tried to dissuade FDR from interning the Japanese-Americans on the mainland.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  33. @bomag

    Maybe they could set up one of those hologram thingies of Stacy Abrams like they had for St. George’s National Corpse Tour.

    Then figure out a way to hack into it, inserting a hologram of Capt. Ahab plunging a harpoon into her image.

    Damn ye, black whale!

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  34. Both are corrupt, so why not?

  35. They can paint a mural of the gap-toothed toilet scrubber on the building with “The Midnight Train of Justice” passing through the gap.

  36. Dan Hayes says:

    Because Hoover (along with Sen Taft) was against Earl Warren inspired World War II Japanese incarceration, Hawaiian Japanese-American US Senators have defeated previous efforts to rename the building!

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  37. @El Dato

    And speaking of Ashli Babbit (say her name), I ran across this. There is an effort to justify her murder by claiming that it was feared that her backpack contained the rumored pipe bombs. Well, no, actually…

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/03/ashli-babbitts-backpack-shot-dead-capitol-hill-police-officer-will-shock/

  38. @Hibernian

    How about those old pre colonial PA stone barns and homes built by Quaker settlers with their English white hands? Quakers were anti slavery and arrived in the 1680’s. If only the rest of the early arrivers listened to them, and let the slave traders go south to Central America and beyond.

  39. @prime noticer

    prime, for those who have never seen Bolling run, just do a web search of “Mathew Bolling 4x400Relay Race.” This is Matt’s HS 4×400 competing at a track event where the top US HS teams ran . Comes from behind and wins going away. You can also find a video of him anchoring a relay of UGA football coaches against the fastest football palyers. Jaw dropping speed.

  40. But, Maestro Steve, she’s already got a tank named after her. Kinda apt as well.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  41. @Ed

    The Hoover name on the FBI building won’t survive Biden’s first term now.

    Biden won’t survive Biden’s first term. Might as well name it for him.

  42. ES says:

    403. That’s an error.

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    Forbidden That’s all we know.

    What happened to the picture?

    • Agree: Dissident
  43. Shouldn’t a seasoned journalist know that the term is “square off against” not “swear off against”? My German immigrant ancestors would be surprised to learn that they had no part at all in building this country.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
  44. @Wade Hampton

    Why change the name of the Hoover building? I’ve read somewhere that Hoover was a transvestite, so wouldn’t changing the name be homophobic, or transphobic or something?

    They did it to Miss Nancy.

    Background about the logo- King County

    • Replies: @Wade Hampton
  45. jsinton says:

    But Hoover was a gay cross-dresser who lived with his boyfriend. Six of one, half dozen of the other if you ask me.

  46. @prime noticer

    Our people are doing well in Streetbeefs fights as well:

    Pretty sure the guy is nicknamed, “Maus,” after the superheavy German tank.

  47. nebulafox says:
    @Dan Hayes

    He saw internment of Americans from a Japanese background for what it was: army pushed societal hysteria that was a waste of time and effort. It’s almost as if J. Edgar Hoover… was a good detective.

    Hoover was a racist, paranoid, micromanagerial jerk with weirdo authoritarian tendencies. No two ways about it. But he was good at his job: the Bureau is, in every way, *his* baby. Nobody has really run the FBI properly since Hoover. And it turns out that being a detail obsessed crank who sees through BS is part of the job description.

    • Thanks: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Matt Buckalew
  48. @Buzz Mohawk

    The late chief global strategist for Morgan Stanley, Barton Biggs, said will see a complete financial and social collapse in the not-so-distant future.

    From Biggs’ Wealth, War and Wisdom:

    “…assume the possibility of a breakdown of the civilized infrastructure… Your safe haven must be self-sufficient and capable of growing some kind of food. It should be well-stocked with seed, fertilizer, canned food, wine, medicine, clothes, etc. Think Swiss Family Robinson. Even in America and Europe there could be moments of riot and rebellion when law and order temporarily completely breaks down.”

    https://www.amazon.com/Wealth-War-Wisdom-Barton-Biggs-ebook/dp/B008N9I1A6/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=barton+biggs&qid=1615736185&sr=8-3

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @Alden
  49. nebulafox says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    >That’s what I’m doing, but I have a life boat.

    Water is cold, but a small chance of survival is better than none.

  50. “How about the Stacey Abrams Building? If one woman could swear off against a whole system . . . .

    Surely she said “square”.

  51. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Redneck farmer

    If Abrams wants her name on a Frank Gehry building, I’m all for it. She’s ugly as one of his works.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  52. @nebulafox

    “Hoover … wasn’t some … cartoon villain figure”

    Indeed: Hoover was a significant villain. He created an instrument of government oppression reactive to the desires of the dominant ideology in DC. The legitimate law enforcement function of the FBI can be returned to the states along with additional funding. What remains will be a political police that exists to serve elite interests and the counterintelligence units exploited by the CIA to perform domestic operations: the rotten core of the FBI.

  53. Jack D says:
    @Polistra

    They should have a contest for how many whopping lies you can pack in one sentence and yet not be questioned in the slightest by the MSM. He should have added “and who invented the light bulb”. Meanwhile, if it was 71 degrees outside and Trump said “It’s a beautiful 70 degrees here in Palm Beach today”, there would be a headline saying, “Today President Trump FALSELY stated that it was 70 degrees in Palm Beach.”

    • Agree: Alden
  54. nebulafox says:
    @Gordo

    Anthony Summers… is not what I’d call a reliable source.

  55. @Buzz Mohawk

    Don’t wait too long, Buzz. Liquidate while there still is a market for your property, and any other effects you would leave behind. Then skeedaddle. My wife & I don’t have that option; at best, we might be able to move somewhere else in the country. But if it turns to unshirted hell, where would be safer?

  56. @JerseyJeffersonian

    You’re going to need a bigger harpoon.

    • Replies: @Swamp Fox
  57. AndrewR says:
    @Polistra

    Black (and brown) Americans, as a group, have never sought to retaliate against white Americans — even when such an act and desire would have been perfectly reasonable, just and yes, moral. But there are millions of white Americans in Trump’s camp, and also outside of it, who are terrified that with increasing racial and ethnic diversity they will be victims of racially-motivated revenge and violence. This makes these millions of white voters easily manipulated by racist demagogues who use political sadism to stab at the worst parts of human nature.

    https://www.salon.com/2018/06/26/what-fuels-white-anxiety-the-baffling-hypocrisies-behind-white-paranoia-politics/

    • Replies: @Polistra
  58. @Buzz Mohawk

    The bar is open and the band is playing, so I’ll enjoy what I can, while I can.

  59. @p4nc4k3s Pl34s3

    The “Elevate” phone app has a “brain training” game devoted to recognizing such spoonerisms.

    My theory is that just as self-educated people often mispronounce words because they’ve never heard them out loud (I had a freshman student from the Detroit ghetto who was quite bright but when asking an intelligent question one time referred to the philosopher “Sew-crates.”); today, no one reads so they only acquire knowledge of the vaguely pronounced homonyms, which they then reproduce in writing. That’s my theory, for all indents and purposes.

  60. @Abolish_public_education

    Trump referred to Lisa Page as “lovely,” and the far-less presentable Nellie
    Ohr as “beautiful.”

  61. @Franz

    IF they believed their own bullshit, they could unite the Left and Right in condemning Hoover and his methods, and the FBI itself.

    BUT they don’t. They like his methods, as long as THEY get to use them.

    It’s like they were all about free speech, until they got their hands on the censor button. They were “antiwar” until Obama was elected. Etc.

    • Agree: Franz
  62. Swamp Fox says:
    @Gary in Gramercy

    Or throw a dive tank into her mouth
    (it should fit easily between the gap in her teeth) then shoot said dive tank.
    Roll credits.

  63. A slow day at MSNBC perhaps?

  64. @Buzz Mohawk

    News from The Nutmeg Case: Gasoline jumped ten cents in less than a week.

    Trouble brewing.

  65. Mr. Anon says:
    @Wade Hampton

    Let’s cut to the ultimate name now. Rename the FBI building “The Ministry of Love”.

    Yes, that would be the most appropriate name for the Secret Police Headquarters.

  66. @Steve Sailer

    Remember Jesse Owens? Hitler was mean to him. I havent forgotten.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  67. @Bernard Marx

    This is what I am talking about, and I worked in the investment field. We are, very possibly, in for a ride such as you imply. That is my whole point.

    Personally, I think any smart person or family should always be prepared, even when the need is not as obvious as it is now.

    Thank you for your reply.

  68. Jimmee says:
    @Ed

    ‘The Hoover name on the FBI building won’t survive Biden’s first term now.’

    That would be one step forward for the US. Information coming to light over the last few decades reveal Hoover to have been a contemptible person — and, what’s worse, a _hypocrite_ with far more skeletons in his ‘closet’ than the moderate Lefties he surveilled.

    I think just a couple of death-bed confessions from agents over the next few years and Hoover will be irrefutably linked to the murders of MLK, Malcolm X, the Kennedys…

  69. Dan Hayes says:
    @Jimmee

    While you’re at it, how about the assassination of Abraham Lincoln?

  70. Jack D says:
    @Jimmee

    Also Franz Ferdinand (Hoover was OLD), Patrice Lumumba, and Julius Caesar (secret US gov. time machine).

  71. @Hibernian

    Or–who knows–some of these?

  72. @Jimmee

    What about Judge Joseph Force Crater?

  73. Alden says:

    I’ve been buying lots of books in second hand stores lately. One was a retired FBI man. He worked in Birmingham Al his whole career late 1970s to 2010. . Book was nauseatingly anti White liberal.

    Almost all his cases were get this; chasing after hillbilly redneck as he sneered at them, army deserters. They all ran back home and holed up in homes of their families. I mean, how hard is it to catch someone by raiding all their relatives homes at 4/AM? Local police departments always sneer at the FBI and secret service. Now I know why. Author also devoted a couple chapters to passionately advocating for more black women in the FBI as agents. The FBI clerical HR etc staff is already full of nasty black women. I read part of it came to the affirmative action advocacy and threw it away.

    FBI I’m pretty sure most bank robbers are caught by local uniforms, bank cameras and red dye packs. I mean, who’s cruising around near the banks when the alarms and calls come in? Local PD uniforms who find the suspects a few blocks away, not FBI from their headquarters down town or in a city 30,50 miles away.
    He also touched in their so called undercover work such as spending years setting up innocents like the Weaver family. He never did that, just raided deserters parents homes at 4/AM. I mean, who caught Timothy McVeigh? A uniformed highway patrolman who stopped him for speeding. Who caught the first and second WTC bombers? NYPD, not the FBI.

    National laboratories and data bases are a great help to law enforcement. Keep the scientists and lab workers. Take their badges away. State and local PDs lab workers aren’t peace officers and law enforcement, just civilian employees.

    Hoover talked talked and talked about going after the FDR communists. But in reality they flourished from 1930 till Hoover retired. And their grandchildren now run the country with great grandchildren like Chrsa Boudin coming up.

    Get rid of the FBI agents. Keep the labs and data bases. Rename some kind of research center.

  74. Dan Hayes says:
    @Father O'Hara

    FYI, Jesse Owens believed and stated that he was treated a lot better by Hitler than by FDR!

    • Agree: Wade Hampton
    • LOL: Father O'Hara
  75. @Reg Cæsar

    Late in the last century, I lived in King County for 15 years. Toward the end of my residence there, the Seattle commies were talking about this change and apparently they finally pulled the trigger, social justice on the cheap.

    The original King, William Rufus deVane King, was an accomplished man, 13th Vice President under Franklin Pierce, Representative from North Carolina, U.S. Senator from Alabama and ambassador to France. He was not a plagiarist or a patron of whores.

    Perhaps someday in some saner alternative universe the attribution of King County will be changed back.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  76. Alden says:
    @Gordo

    There’s pictures of him that look a lot more negro than Meghan Markle. There’s one makes him look especially negroish in his high school band uniform. A segregated White high school. .His father’s family was an old DC family. DC always had a lot of blacks from the very first days. I think some of Sally Hemings ‘ pass for White children moved there. According to Gore Vidal, foreign diplomats called DC Africa, and they didn’t mean just the climate.

    I believe John Carroll never farmed what’s now DC because he didn’t want his slaves and other workers dying of malaria. So he sold the useless for farming and living in swamp to the government.

  77. Alden says:
    @Bernard Marx

    Being self sufficient and hidden away in a remote area didn’t save the Weaver family.

    Rural living means privately owned cars and trucks. Better hope you have money for gas parts and repairs. Cars and trucks are now and have been for years built in ways they can’t be repaired by the average amateur mechanic. Tires, wearing out and need replacing Horses and mules need lots of pasture and feed.

    • Replies: @petit bourgeois
  78. @nebulafox

    Exactly Hoover was a hyper competent bureaucrat. Was he a creep- yes but compared to Beria he was a saint hell compared to the secret police chiefs of any empire he was a saint. He held on to power way too long and as a result relied on blackmail to a destructive degree but when he was FBI director Fifth Columnist got rooted out and presidents were able to conduct presidential business with the secrecy and discretion that is required to run an empire. The governing by press leaks culture that erupted after his death has been disastrous for our country.

  79. @James J O'Meara

    That’s a good theory sir. I guess I take it for granite that people should know the difference.

    • LOL: Wade Hampton
  80. Art Deco says:
    @nebulafox

    Needless to say, that Hoover used those same tactics of dubious legality to break the KKK forever-3 years before corresponding operations against black nationalists-does not make it onto MSNBC.

    The 2d incarnation of the KKK dissolved in 1944. The organization was refounded in 1946, then broke up into klanlets in 1949. Klavern membership ebbed and flowed over the succeeding 30-odd years, usually a four-digit number. No one federation of klaverns was ever of much significance. (Klavern members were responsible for 16 political murders between 1953 and 1982; five were the work of a local klavern not part of a larger organization and four were the work of one of Robert Shelton’s outfit).

    • Thanks: JMcG
  81. @Wade Hampton

    The original King, William Rufus deVane King, was an accomplished man…

    He was not a plagiarist or a patron of whores.

    He was the fruitiest American politician of the 19th century.

    Perhaps the stories of his bedding male slaves were innuendo. But what else are slaves good for? Certainly not work.

  82. Art Deco says:
    @Gary in Gramercy

    (For Cass — born Ellen Naomi Cohen — it was more like divine retribution. And before someone jumps in to correct the record, I know the official story is Cass died of a heart attack. But as the newspaper editor in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance said, “When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.”)

    Divine retribution for what?

    • Agree: HammerJack
  83. Isn’t the FBI building infamous for being shoddily built and/or in desperate need of renovation? A decade (or more?) ago there were complaints at how long it was taking to build a new headquarters, IIRC.

  84. @Verymuchalive

    But, Maestro Steve, she’s already got a tank named after her. Kinda apt as well.

    Dude, another bite of the apple is kind of her MO.

  85. @Jimmee

    I think just a couple of death-bed confessions from agents over the next few years and Hoover will be irrefutably linked to the murders of MLK, Malcolm X, the Kennedys…

    Eh,who knew J. Edgar was Mossad?

  86. Wilkey says:
    @John Derbyshire

    Exactly.

    And as a tremendous fan of yours, thank you for the reply.

  87. By-tor says:
    @HammerJack

    A mobster’s wife started that rumour in revenge for the FBI going after her husband’s organization. IIRC, she paid some journalist(s) to concoct and run the story.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  88. @Alden

    Not true. I have a 2004 GMC Sierra 1500 with an 8 foot bed and a weathetgard toolbox in the back. I can tow 10,000 pounds with a big V-6 made in Livonia.

    340,000 miles and still going strong. Buy American.

    Not many Mercedes reach that benchmark.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  89. Firefinga says:

    Huh? Chinese railway workers did more to “build this country” than any black slave in the south. But then again, this nonsense will soon be in the history books and thus “historical facts”.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  90. @Unit472

    In the modern era the FBI’s legacy of incompetence has continued…nightclub shooter Omar Marteen was a dangerous Islamic extremist the FBI failed…school shooter Nicholas Cruz has self identified himself as

    They also botched the 9/11 bombers and the Boston Marathon bombers. They’re good at entrapment though.

    #DefundTheFBI

  91. Jack D says:
    @petit bourgeois

    Not many Mercedes reach that benchmark.

    You picked a bad example. In the past, at least, Mercedes, especially their diesels, were famous for their longevity. Mercedes taxis would rattle around Third World cities for a million miles or more (it helps that 3rd world mechanics are cheap and resourceful). A 300D was just getting broken in at 340,000 miles.

    Of course the modern ones end up in the junkyard much sooner because they are complex and full of high cost electronics and at some point it costs more to keep them on the road than they are worth.

    Also, in the past, the V-8 was the be-all and end-all of powerful truck engines (though lots of GMC’s had straight- 6’s back in the day) and V-6’s were considered a sort of oddball crippled engine – a V8 with 2 cylinders chopped off.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  92. Dissident says:

    It seems like a match made in heaven: after all, Stacey Abrams invented in 2018 the patriotic duty of refusing to admit you lost the election. And the FBI Building is as lovely as Ms. Abrams:

    You present reasonable, responsible, credible and even compelling objections to Ms. Abrams based upon her behavior and publicly-stated/known views and positions. Why detract and divert from such substantive criticism and rebuke by stooping to petty, shallow, ugly snipes about something the woman has as little control over as her physical appearance?

    Incidentally, the second image (presumably of the FBI building) does not display for me, and when trying to go directly to the URL, I got the same error message that
    ES did

  93. Jack D says:
    @Firefinga

    BTW, after the Civil War, why did the railroad companies send all the way to China for workers when there were millions of newly freed blacks available to work on the railroad?

  94. Polistra says:
    @AndrewR

    This was an amazing, bracing find, Andrew, and I come back to it again today. I wrote a more elaborate note in response yesterday but it seems to have vanished into the ether.

  95. Can we expect intra-woke warfare?

    How many of the LGBPERVERTXYZ class can be incited to outrage by the news that the lower down the shitlib totem pole blecks are planning to erase the only nationally known monument to cross dressers and pillow biters?

    How do we go about it?

  96. @James J O'Meara

    I’m always pleased when I stumble across these autodidacts, I think of them as escapees from the govt schools.

  97. @Jack D

    I’m always suspicious about the mechanical knowledge of people who buy the Gay Men’s Chevy.

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