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From the New York Times in 1992:
North Dakota, Math Country
By DANIEL PATRICK MOYNIHAN (Senator, D-NY)In his State of the Union Message, the President reaffirmed his commitment to making our country “the world leader in education,” adding that to do so, “We must revolutionize America’s schools.”
He didn’t say how. But he asked for help. And help is at hand!
I have discovered the formula. …
I am a little old for that sort of thing, but still it happened. I was allotted two minutes in a gathering of Democrats last week to explain, yet again, that there is simply no significant connection between school expenditure and pupil achievement.
… Uh huh, nodded the audience. Same old stuff. Then it came to me. “Fellow countrymen!” I exclaimed. “If you would improve your state’s math scores, move your state closer to the Canadian border!”
The whole room got it!
On to the Congressional Budget Office! Please, I asked, get me the correlation between math scores and distance of state capitals from the Canadian border. Back came the answer. A negative 0.522 — which may be the strongest correlation known to education, and which means that the further a capital is from the border, the lower its test score. By contrast, the correlation between expenditures and math tests is a paltry 0.203. …
Even so, the indicated course for American education is obvious. Disadvantaged states should establish summer capitals in the Thousand Islands of the St. Lawrence River, which happens to include New York State territory bordering on French-speaking Quebec.
Furthermore, those long summer evenings in St. Lawrence skiffs might be given over in part to reading the literature on educational achievement that begins with the 1966 report on Equality of Educational Opportunity, known as the Coleman Report. This study, commissioned under the Civil Rights Act of 1964, determined that after a point there is precious little association between school resources and school achievement. The resources that matter are those the student brings to the school, including community traditions that value education. Or don’t.
… The plain fact is that in a rush of findings in the 1960’s, social science disabused us of most of what we used to “know” about social issues. Generally speaking, social policy has not been able to accept this. …
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How India can dominate in football and basketball. Send their students to schools in Detroit and St. Louis.
So, if we simply surrender to Canada and move its border to the Rio Grande, then we are saved.
I was going to write , “How policitians in today’s Democratic Party pale in comparison to Moynihan.”
But, upon further reflection it’s actually worse. What politician in either party these days compares to Moynihan?
‘Tis a pity their awesome high IQs didn’t give them any empathy for the other Whites in the country they hated so much.
Steve,
Moynihan was oftentimes a combination charlatan and fakir.
But then I read this from 1992!
My only consolation is that if DPM were alive today he would place a strict embargo on any such non-PC thoughts.
Wow. 1992.
President of the United States George H. W. Bush meets with President of Russia Boris Yeltsin at Camp David, where they formally declare that the Cold War is over.
Ukraine and four other nations in the Commonwealth of Independent States reject Russia’s proposal to maintain unified armed forces. Ukraine, Moldova, and Azerbaijan announce they will go ahead with plans to create their own armed forces.
The first victims of the Bosnian War are a Serb groom’s father and an Orthodox priest in a Sarajevo shooting. The Bosnian independence referendum was held from February 29–March 1, in which the majority of the Bosniak and Bosnian Croat communities, but boycotted by Bosnian Serbs, voted for Bosnia-Herzegovina’s independence.
White South Africans vote in favour of political reforms which will end the apartheid regime and create a power-sharing multi-racial government.
The two remaining constituent republics of the former Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia – Serbia and Montenegro – form a new state, named the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (after 2003, Serbia and Montenegro), bringing to an end the official union of Serbs, Croats, Slovenes, Montenegrins, Bosnian Muslims and Macedonians that existed from 1918 (with the exception of the period during World War II).
A Mafia bomb kills Italian anti-Mafia judge Giovanni Falcone.
A car bomb placed by the Mafia (with the collaboration of Italian intelligence) kills judge Paolo Borsellino and five members of his escort.
Black Wednesday: The pound sterling and the Italian lira are forced out of the European Exchange Rate Mechanism.
More than 350,000 people rally in Berlin to protest right-wing violence against immigrants; radicals throw stones and eggs at President of Germany Richard von Weizsäcker and Chancellor of Germany Helmut Kohl.
Extremist Hindu activists demolish Babri Masjid – a 16th-century mosque in Ayodhya, India, which had been used as a temple since 1949, leading to widespread communal violence, including the Bombay riots, in all killing over 1,500 people.
A test engineer for Sema Group uses a personal computer to send the world’s first text message via the Vodafone network to the phone of a colleague.
The Archives of Terror are discovered by Dr. Martín Almada, detailing the fates of thousands of Latin Americans who had been secretly kidnapped, tortured, and killed by the security services of Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay, in what became known as Operation Condor.
In terms of units sold, compact discs outsell audiocassettes for the first time in the United States.
Russian leaders in Crimea declare their separation from Ukraine as a new republic. They withdraw the secession on May 10.
I just travelled along part of that border: from the Thousand Islands region he mentioned, down to Nova Scotia. After spending too much time around the crappy, mundane vibrancy of urban Canada — and too much time following events online — it was energizing to see this part of my country. It reminded me how much strength in depth we really have. I saw at least a dozen banners on the side of buildings saying “we’re hiring”, mostly looking for machinists of various sorts. A regional chain of restaurants called Normandin had paper place mats with the same “we’re hiring” message. All the kids in the photos were White. I just checked and it’s the same at their website.
So what? Well it was just a reminder that it’s not all over. Internet micro-superstars like Black Pigeon Speaks can announce “Canada’s gone!” or “Europe’s gone!” but that doesn’t make it true. The old arrangements are gone but that’s another thing altogether. We’re never getting our parents Canada (or US) back but that doesn’t mean we’re goners.
It’s ironic how those pushing the Narrative keep on telling Whites to “wake up to the new realities”, when that’s really the last thing they want. For the Narrative to work, it has to be the 1960’s forever. Whites need to feel secure and prosperous enough to be grand liberals and endless good sports but must also must be made to feel shame and alienation. These two states of mind can’t coexist but Obama attempted it. Obama-ism needs to keep Whites osculating between mid-1960s liberality and late 1960s guilt-tripping and self-doubt. No wonder Whitey collectively went nuts and voted for Trump.
It’s simple, we alter demographics so everyone is like North Dakota and New Hampshire!
The whole room got it.
Into which folder should I bookmark this? I know: “Malaise USA”.
A good thread about what the “rush of findings that disabused us of what we used to ‘know’ about social policy.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/gwern/status/1017976030177488897
My sense is that in some ways the first wave of social policy experiments were better done than what you get now, because then they fully expected the stuff to work, and so they used fewer kludges to get around the fact that it didn’t.
Not by a long shot. Richard Lynn found a similar north-south gradient in Italy, with a correlation of IQ (based on PISA scores) with latitude of 0.963! I must say that I find that result pretty incredible on the face of it, and the study of course has been much criticized. This blog provides data suggesting that Lynn happened to catch Italy at a moment when African migration was transitioning from the south northwards.
https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2016/01/31/northsouth-differences-in-italian-iq-is-richard-lynn-right/
Moynihan was just another racist, according to the Left and Center, and Moderate Right, of our interesting times.
Are the SJWs demanding to dig up his grave and scatter his bones in non-violent protest?
https://mobile.twitter.com/gwern/status/1017976030177488897
My sense is that in some ways the first wave of social policy experiments were better done than what you get now, because then they fully expected the stuff to work, and so they used fewer kludges to get around the fact that it didn’t.Replies: @Jake
True. Back then, they were naive true believers. They really expected it all to work, and work well, and rather quickly.
Here is a fact of life, a dose of reality: those who are ensnared by a revolutionary spirit almost never back away from that aspect of revolution when they observe that the hopes they held for the revolution prove false. Instead, the vast majority of them begin to cast common sense and reliance on facts and logic behind them as they elevate faith in ideology first to preeminence and then to exclusionary status.
At that point they are ready to destroy the lives of millions and tens of millions and hundreds of millions and even billions in order to save the world and make it more fair and peaceful.
How is this not supposed to be satire?
It’s a sad state of affairs when articles like this from the 1990s seem so shockingly honest.
Steve,
As you pointed on Twitter last night, New Hampshire would like to be farther away from the Canadian border than it is now.
What are the two largest cities located right on the Canadian border?
Detroit and Buffalo.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=detroit+windsor+map&t=ha&ia=maps&iaxm=maps
(scroll in or out for a proper-scale map; use the mouse wheel).
Not a surprise. However, too many people have too many excuses to make and axes to grind.
These places planted the seeds of their own destruction by looking for cheap labor. The postwar economy was booming and the factories needed anyone willing to work, especially anyone willing to work cheaply. In those days cheap labor meant black migrants from the South, especially the Mississippi Delta where they had been imported as an earlier form of cheap labor. They got temporary cheap labor and permanent headaches. American employers were willing to ruin their cities for the next century in order to increase this quarter's profits. The CEO's bonus was based on THIS quarter's results, not what Detroit would look like in 2 decades. Not that it took that long - by 1965 Detroit was in flames. Once the seeds of ruin are planted in fertile soil, they sprout quickly.Replies: @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Johnny Smoggins, @Autochthon, @MBlanc46
Detroit and Buffalo.Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @Paul, @Anon7, @Buffalo Joe, @Anon, @TelfoedJohn, @J1234, @Ed, @Jack D
And Detroit is NORTH of the Canadian border; see
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=detroit+windsor+map&t=ha&ia=maps&iaxm=maps
(scroll in or out for a proper-scale map; use the mouse wheel).
Correlation equals Caucasian.
OT
Hungary Pulls out of U.N. Global Migration Agreement
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/18/world/europe/hungary-migration-united-nations.html
If Countries Won’t Take Refugees for Moral Reasons, Let’s Give Them Financial Incentives
https://qz.com/1244828/if-countries-wont-take-refugees-for-moral-reasons-lets-give-them-financial-incentives/
Trying to Create a Market for Refugees
http://blogs.harvard.edu/philg/2018/07/27/trying-to-create-a-market-for-refugees/
From the second link by lawyers moonlighting as economists:
Greenspun’s comment:
Detroit and Buffalo.Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @Paul, @Anon7, @Buffalo Joe, @Anon, @TelfoedJohn, @J1234, @Ed, @Jack D
‘The resources that matter are those the student brings to the school, including community traditions that value education. Or don’t.”
Not a surprise. However, too many people have too many excuses to make and axes to grind.
Dear lord, it’s real, actual, unvarnished Magic Dirt theory. I sincerely hope the northern states are smart enough to refuse their advances.
If someone has a moderate amount of time on their hands, organize some of our autistic NEET types to go looking through past NYT and A-WaPo articles and finding everything that doesn’t meet current year standards. Then create a couple dozen sjw twitter accounts, drum up outrage and pressure the papers to disavow their old material. Do this constantly. Better if editors who approved it are still working there, call them out personally.
Also, if nobody does this it’s because you’re all a big bunch of idiots who like to lose, and it’s not a reflection on the quality of my ideas.
However your “I-refuse-to-lift-a-finger” stance on your own idea may be counterproductive.
Finally! A worthy successor to @24 ahead.com appears on the horizon. All kidding aside, it sounds like a very good idea.
This conundrum is, of course, part of the plan and an intrinsic advantage to the enemy. It's easier to destroy than to create or even defend and preserve, and so the globo-homo types have the family man by the short-and-curlies right out of the gate....
Detroit and Buffalo.Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @Paul, @Anon7, @Buffalo Joe, @Anon, @TelfoedJohn, @J1234, @Ed, @Jack D
State capitals, not cities. Lansing, Michigan is 90 miles from Canada. Pretty good. I think Anchorage, Alaska is closest.
Unlike the other cities in Southeast Alaska, Juneau's on the mainland, but it doesn't have any road or rail connections to Canada. You have to take the ferry somewhere first, or fly out.
Montpelier, Vermont, is the next-closest capital to Canada, less than 70 miles by road, and probably less than 60 as the crow flies. Lansing, Michigan, therefore, would be third, and Augusta, Maine, a close fourth.
But Lansing's on an Interstate to Detroit and a bridge to Windsor, so Lansing beats all the others for convenience to Canada. Google maps gives an identical one hour, 29 minutes from Lansing to Windsor, and from Montpelier to Highwater, Quebec.
1992 is a foreign country; they do things differently there.
Our new Somali Americans will turn this around.
Detroit and Buffalo.Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @Paul, @Anon7, @Buffalo Joe, @Anon, @TelfoedJohn, @J1234, @Ed, @Jack D
prosa123, Damn, you beat me to it.
Also, if nobody does this it’s because you’re all a big bunch of idiots who like to lose, and it’s not a reflection on the quality of my ideas.Replies: @BenKenobi, @kaganovitch, @Autochthon, @Jenner Ickham Errican
Bretty gud Memetics, Two-Seven-Yankee.
However your “I-refuse-to-lift-a-finger” stance on your own idea may be counterproductive.
Where were the Congressional factcheckers?
No, the New York-Quebec border is almost entirely land, running from the St Lawrence to Lake Champlain, but including only about a half-mile of each. The river border is shared with Ontario.
The first (or last, downstream) Canadian island which faces New York is Cornwall. Kind of a land’s end thing.
No, the farther a capital is from the border, the further its scores are from the top. Come on, Pat– this piece is about education!
https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/further-versus-farther
I'm sure if Trump made that mistake in a speech or a tweet, the Times would report it as a "lie".
Do Cleveland’s city limits reach out to the lake border with Ontario? Or Rochester’s? Rochester is smaller anyway, so it’d be the fourth-largest city on the border, if it indeed is.
Also, you must mean US cities. Toronto and Vancouver are “located right on the Canadian border”.
And isn’t “are located” redundant? It’s like “Where are you at?”, or, worse, “Where are you located at?”
Further, to cross the Canadian border, where Canada is located at, Detroiters travel farther south. Wrap that around your mind.Replies: @Forbes, @Reg Cæsar
Since this is common usage there it is standard, and because it is standard it is correct. I always liked the sound of it. Correct usage depends on where you at.
Redundancy is also not an issue. The French negative is created by two particles, "ne" and "pas", all correct in spite of the redundancy. Multiple negative particles were also common in Middle English. I found a sentence in Chaucer once with 5 negative particles. This practice lives on in rural America with expressions such as "ain't got no". "Ain't" was also a perfectly respectable word in the King's Middle English.
'Located' and its variants are usually redundant and can be eliminated without otherwise changing the sentence in most cases. The same is true of 'being'. Good writing uses neither word.
Any essay about intelligence or education should have bulletproof grammar.
#whereyouatdawg!Replies: @Dube
I have a math degree and I’ve taken courses in Measure Theory,Topology, Differential Geometry…
Many years ago, I once tutored for free a female Canadian (‘mature’)student in her late 20s in math. She majored in English and didn’t have grade 12th math but U. of Calgary insisted she got to complete grade 12th math before she could graduate. I was surprised that binomial theorem and compound angle formulas in trigonometry were included in the syllabus. I must say its very demanding for a language major. Not sure if the standard is still so vigorous these days; you see, math is ‘racist’.
…………..
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/its-not-just-a-joke-anymore-theyre-actually-claiming-math-is-racist
If the lady were Chinese and majoring in English, fair enough, I say. Or if she were an American majoring in Latin or Sumerian, too. But in such cases, I expect trigonometry would not be especially challenging, either. Those good at languages (and not just taking a phony major) generally are also good at mathematics and music – the three being very similar in terms of the brain's learning conceptual rules and applying them to decipher (or compose) new works....Replies: @Lin
Also, if nobody does this it’s because you’re all a big bunch of idiots who like to lose, and it’s not a reflection on the quality of my ideas.Replies: @BenKenobi, @kaganovitch, @Autochthon, @Jenner Ickham Errican
“Also, if nobody does this it’s because you’re all a big bunch of idiots who like to lose, and it’s not a reflection on the quality of my ideas.”
Finally! A worthy successor to @24 ahead.com appears on the horizon. All kidding aside, it sounds like a very good idea.
OT: The Democrats finally came out with a platform (The current top post on Democratic Underground):
https://www.democraticunderground.com/11982981
As it's a Democrat, crickets...Replies: @Reg Cæsar
How about let Canada swallow all of the US? Magic dirt will spread into every corner of the US.
Look how Mexicans rose to US standards the minute the crossed the border.
Well, if that’s true, if the US is made Canadian, all Americans will rise up to Canadian standards.
Detroit and Buffalo.Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @Paul, @Anon7, @Buffalo Joe, @Anon, @TelfoedJohn, @J1234, @Ed, @Jack D
The rules applies state-wide but not city-wide. Funny why that is.
Also, you must mean US cities. Toronto and Vancouver are "located right on the Canadian border".
And isn't "are located" redundant? It's like "Where are you at?", or, worse, "Where are you located at?"Replies: @Dube, @anon, @Forbes, @Je Suis Omar Mateen
[And isn’t “are located” redundant? It’s like “Where are you at?”, or, worse, “Where are you located at?”]
Further, to cross the Canadian border, where Canada is located at, Detroiters travel farther south. Wrap that around your mind.
Most everyone doesn't know the answer is Canada. They guess somewhere in the Caribbean.Replies: @Mr. Rational
Try this one: which are, or were, Major League Baseball's three northernmost ballparks? (Hint: they're rainier than other venues, and the answer will make you sick.) And what were fourth and fifth?
Which EU country is closest to Canada?
Which East Coast port is closest to the latitude of the California-Baja border?
Which Rust Belt city is due north of Florida's westernmost point, at the Escambia River?
How many state capitals are farther west than Santiago, Chile, on the Pacific?Replies: @Autochthon, @Dtbb, @Tex
The effect of cold weather on IQ is indisputable but very mysterious. Only a few tens of thousands of years ago AMHs walked out of Africa. Those who went north and west became the Italians, Germans and English. Those who walked north and east became Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans.
These of course are the smart peoples. All of those who failed to walk north and those who didn’t leave Africa at all stayed dumb to various degrees. It’s all there in the Lynn and Vanhaten’s work.
The conventional explanation is they developed higher intelligence to survive in the colder winters. Maybe, but it seems a bit too easy for me.
When I was a kid and a typical dinosaur fan I read all the theories as to why the dinosaurs died out. There were lots of theories but none satisfied me. Then the Alvarez’s pere et fils figured it out. I will wait around for some new finding like that that explains better why walking north makes you smart.
Interestingly, the geneticist Luigi Cavalli-Sforza found that the Southern Chinese genetically cluster with Southeast Asian populations.
So they would seem to be a very notable exception to the "cold weather" hypothesis.Replies: @DFH, @Pat Boyle
To appreciate the difference between the tropics and northern environments consider that many years ago a women who survived a plane crash in the Amazon jungle wandered around in the jungle for about six weeks until stumbling into a settlement. When she did so she was in pretty decent shape. Although she was a city dweller with absolutely no experience or training in survival skills she was able to survive in the Amazon completely by herself and with no special equipment for six weeks. She would have been lucky to last 6 hours if the plane she was on had crashed in a northern forest in the winter.
This is not to say that selection for higher intelligence is solely due to climate but climate is important.Replies: @Pat Boyle
Character is another detail. Living someplace with long, cold winters requires laying in enough fuel to stay warm until the sun returns in spring, but eventual scarcity of fuel means whole families huddling around one minimum-sized fire. You have to have the time preference to lay in fuel early, the intelligence to understand how much fuel you need, and the character not to drive each other to violence in the long periods in very close quarters you're stuck in so as not to freeze to death. Volatile personalities need not apply; the phlegmatic are best adapted to this.
None of those selection pressures are going to operate in the always-warm tropics.Replies: @dr kill
Uh-oh…….
https://twitter.com/aaronsojourner/status/1023238966148050944
(I note that twitter links I see posted on Unz seem to give a lot of "Sorry, Twitter is taking too long to load" messages, paste them into a new browser and they are fine. Shadowlink-banning?)
https://twitter.com/primalpoly/status/1023580832223510528Replies: @sayless
Maybe we would have real wage growth if Kevin Yoder and the rest of the GOP’s Corporate Whore Wing was purged and we had some real border enforcement enacted instead of angry tweets.
And this assuming the stat is even true. Who knows nowadays
http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2014/10/Wage_stagnation.png
Sojourner won't teach my grandmother how to suck an egg. Jackass.
Why is my comment still awaiting moderation? Just so you know, Steve, this is why I’ve never sent you money.
https://www.thewrap.com/america-to-me-charles-donalson-iii-rips-tca-press-tour-over-wasteful-spending/
OT, Oak Park in a docu-series.
Southern China has a humid, subtropical climate. Southern China was historically the breadbasket of China and the center of international trade&commerce. The Southern Chinese also dominated on the national Imperial Exam. Almost the entire high-performing Chinese diaspora is from the southern part of the county (Fujian, Guangdong, Shanghai).
Interestingly, the geneticist Luigi Cavalli-Sforza found that the Southern Chinese genetically cluster with Southeast Asian populations.
So they would seem to be a very notable exception to the “cold weather” hypothesis.
The Left used to be against Open-Borders-for-US-imperialism-in-Latin-America.
They said Yanqui should go home.
So, why are they for Globo-Open Borders now?
I think it has to do more with the proportion of the population that is white rather than the proximity to the Canadian border. If this were true, there would be a higher incidence of saying “eh” and “aboot” in those said states with the better education. A study could be funded to find out the correlation. If New Hampshire were moved to the Mexican border and non-whites were kept out, the statistics would be the same or perhaps a little bit better with the abundance of natural light.
Detroit and Buffalo.Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @Paul, @Anon7, @Buffalo Joe, @Anon, @TelfoedJohn, @J1234, @Ed, @Jack D
This ‘law’ is more about Scandinavian percentage rather than border proximity.
Steve got me thinking with this amusing DPM article – what was the Congressional vote on the Immigration & Nationality Act of 1965? Well, thanks to the Democrats, the Immigration & Nationality Act of 1965 garnered more votes than the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The Democrats were (and still are) far more enthusiastic supporters of immigrants than Americans. Some things never change…
The roll call votes are on page 11 of this PDF:
https://illinoislawreview.org/wp-content/ilr-content/articles/2015/3/Chin_&_Spencer.pdf
Also, you must mean US cities. Toronto and Vancouver are "located right on the Canadian border".
And isn't "are located" redundant? It's like "Where are you at?", or, worse, "Where are you located at?"Replies: @Dube, @anon, @Forbes, @Je Suis Omar Mateen
The good folks of Metairie LA are know locally as YATS due to their propensity to ask “Where ya at?”
Since this is common usage there it is standard, and because it is standard it is correct. I always liked the sound of it. Correct usage depends on where you at.
Redundancy is also not an issue. The French negative is created by two particles, “ne” and “pas”, all correct in spite of the redundancy. Multiple negative particles were also common in Middle English. I found a sentence in Chaucer once with 5 negative particles. This practice lives on in rural America with expressions such as “ain’t got no”. “Ain’t” was also a perfectly respectable word in the King’s Middle English.
https://twitter.com/pdacosta/status/1022895688018010112
https://twitter.com/aaronsojourner/status/1023238966148050944Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Corn, @Autochthon
Despite the low wage growth, working men don’t seem attracted to the Dems. Why ever not? The Economist is baffled.
(I note that twitter links I see posted on Unz seem to give a lot of “Sorry, Twitter is taking too long to load” messages, paste them into a new browser and they are fine. Shadowlink-banning?)
Why don't they ask them?
Certainly the greater challenges of survival in the North would have selected for higher intelligence. Tundra hunters have far more and more complex tools, weapons, traps, nets etc. than tropical hunters. Clothing must be much more elaborate, it must be watertight and protective against exposure while allowing free movement. Shelter must be far more substantial and well constructed. Food must be stored for survival through the winter. This requires a hunter to calculate how much food he will need to catch and lay away to enable not just his survival but that of his wife and children through the winter. A mistaken calculation means death.
To appreciate the difference between the tropics and northern environments consider that many years ago a women who survived a plane crash in the Amazon jungle wandered around in the jungle for about six weeks until stumbling into a settlement. When she did so she was in pretty decent shape. Although she was a city dweller with absolutely no experience or training in survival skills she was able to survive in the Amazon completely by herself and with no special equipment for six weeks. She would have been lucky to last 6 hours if the plane she was on had crashed in a northern forest in the winter.
This is not to say that selection for higher intelligence is solely due to climate but climate is important.
Why wouldn’t you need higher intelligence to deal with substantial periods when there is no food growing and game is scarce? Also a lower time preference, so agriculturalists don’t eat the seed corn and starve after what should be the next harvest? It’s a whole different set of challenges that tropical hunter-foragers never face and would be very unlikely to be adapted to.
Character is another detail. Living someplace with long, cold winters requires laying in enough fuel to stay warm until the sun returns in spring, but eventual scarcity of fuel means whole families huddling around one minimum-sized fire. You have to have the time preference to lay in fuel early, the intelligence to understand how much fuel you need, and the character not to drive each other to violence in the long periods in very close quarters you’re stuck in so as not to freeze to death. Volatile personalities need not apply; the phlegmatic are best adapted to this.
None of those selection pressures are going to operate in the always-warm tropics.
In a brief examination of research concerning IQ and happiness, it is accepted that high IQ people are happier. This is not my experience.Replies: @Mr. Rational, @Pat Boyle, @MBlanc46
The first (or last, downstream) Canadian island which faces New York is Cornwall. Kind of a land's end thing.No, the farther a capital is from the border, the further its scores are from the top. Come on, Pat-- this piece is about education!
https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/further-versus-farther
https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_main_image/public/images/188/further-farther_0.png?itok=IwOZu152Replies: @International Jew
Thanks for that interesting little geography lesson!
I’m sure if Trump made that mistake in a speech or a tweet, the Times would report it as a “lie”.
Detroit and Buffalo.Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @Paul, @Anon7, @Buffalo Joe, @Anon, @TelfoedJohn, @J1234, @Ed, @Jack D
Which is why Moynihan said states. Big American cities are generally crappy, though I know that Detroit is a special kind of crappy. He should’ve also said, “Fellow countryman, move your cities to the country!” Alabama or Mississippi wouldn’t fit the formula, but that’s what white flight folks did elsewhere (sort of) and it kind of worked for a while.
OT – more evidence that feminism is dysgenic? We already know that the more years in education, the fewer children a woman has on average, this 2016 report joins the dots.
https://paa.confex.com/paa/2016/meetingapp.cgi/Paper/6937
None of it’s rocket science. They look at the educational and income characteristics of the husbands of married women with degrees and high incomes. They posit that these are the kind of husbands that unmarried women with degrees and high incomes would like to marry, and find that there aren’t enough of those men to go round!
I cannot wait for the next study in the series, which will be all about how there is a significant shortage of females who aren't tubby, materialistic, boorish harridans more interested in being the center of attention than in being agreeable helpmates to their husbands and nurturing mothers to their children. When is that study scheduled for publication?Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
OT – the current Google doodle honors civil rights activist María Rebecca Latigo Garcia Vega Lopez Martinez y Rodriguez de Hernández.
OK I lied, her real name is María Rebecca Latigo de Hernandez.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-r2GPTWxcUtk/VErHbACuvBI/AAAAAAAAWXo/PvPmCkIx6Ac/s1600/hernandez.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/arc-wordpress-client-uploads/infobae-wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/28201939/doodle-de-maria-rebecca-latigo-de-hernandez.jpg
Heck, the Doodle practically makes her look like a mulatta....Replies: @Carol, @PiltdownMan
Interestingly, the geneticist Luigi Cavalli-Sforza found that the Southern Chinese genetically cluster with Southeast Asian populations.
So they would seem to be a very notable exception to the "cold weather" hypothesis.Replies: @DFH, @Pat Boyle
Is it? I think IQ maps of China I’ve seen show that the South does worse. Whatever interbreeding occurred, the native Yue seem to have been pretty heavily replaced by northerners. Just prima facie, I’ve met Cantonese people and they were quite distinct visually from Thais or Malays and even Vietnamese and much more similar to other Chinese.
Detroit and Buffalo.Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @Paul, @Anon7, @Buffalo Joe, @Anon, @TelfoedJohn, @J1234, @Ed, @Jack D
The man sad capitals of which Detroit and Buffalo are not. He also wasn’t talking about city scores but states. Finally the correlation isn’t perfect.
Detroit and Buffalo.Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), @Paul, @Anon7, @Buffalo Joe, @Anon, @TelfoedJohn, @J1234, @Ed, @Jack D
Detroit and Buffalo didn’t start out crappy. In 1960 (within living memory) the city with the #1 per capita income in the US was….. Detroit. Buffalo was the 15th biggest city in the 1950 census, almost tied with Houston (today Houston has 10x the population of Buffalo).
These places planted the seeds of their own destruction by looking for cheap labor. The postwar economy was booming and the factories needed anyone willing to work, especially anyone willing to work cheaply. In those days cheap labor meant black migrants from the South, especially the Mississippi Delta where they had been imported as an earlier form of cheap labor. They got temporary cheap labor and permanent headaches. American employers were willing to ruin their cities for the next century in order to increase this quarter’s profits. The CEO’s bonus was based on THIS quarter’s results, not what Detroit would look like in 2 decades. Not that it took that long – by 1965 Detroit was in flames. Once the seeds of ruin are planted in fertile soil, they sprout quickly.
The great migration of black people to industrial Detroit was mostly before WW2, not after. And at that, they were mostly in the so-called "First Great Migration" of the 1910s and 1920s. Were they cheaper labor than the Appalachian and Eastern European immigrants who were the other people filling up the factories at that time?
Also the riot was 1967, so no flames in 1965.
What is undeniably true is that Detroit's population was nearly 2 million at its peak in the 1950s and is around 600,000 today, so an epic collapseReplies: @Ed
Iyer Brahmins, maybe Brahmins generally, are the exception that proves the rule, then?
“The resources that matter are those the student brings to the school, including community traditions that value education. Or don’t.”
Gee whiz! Ya think?
The late Moynihan was one of the few Democrats who had his head screwed on reasonably tight. His party has devolved to the party of douche bags like Pelosi, Schumer and Wacky Waters.
To appreciate the difference between the tropics and northern environments consider that many years ago a women who survived a plane crash in the Amazon jungle wandered around in the jungle for about six weeks until stumbling into a settlement. When she did so she was in pretty decent shape. Although she was a city dweller with absolutely no experience or training in survival skills she was able to survive in the Amazon completely by herself and with no special equipment for six weeks. She would have been lucky to last 6 hours if the plane she was on had crashed in a northern forest in the winter.
This is not to say that selection for higher intelligence is solely due to climate but climate is important.Replies: @Pat Boyle
I want to meet that woman.
These places planted the seeds of their own destruction by looking for cheap labor. The postwar economy was booming and the factories needed anyone willing to work, especially anyone willing to work cheaply. In those days cheap labor meant black migrants from the South, especially the Mississippi Delta where they had been imported as an earlier form of cheap labor. They got temporary cheap labor and permanent headaches. American employers were willing to ruin their cities for the next century in order to increase this quarter's profits. The CEO's bonus was based on THIS quarter's results, not what Detroit would look like in 2 decades. Not that it took that long - by 1965 Detroit was in flames. Once the seeds of ruin are planted in fertile soil, they sprout quickly.Replies: @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Johnny Smoggins, @Autochthon, @MBlanc46
Some anachronisms in your comment there.
The great migration of black people to industrial Detroit was mostly before WW2, not after. And at that, they were mostly in the so-called “First Great Migration” of the 1910s and 1920s. Were they cheaper labor than the Appalachian and Eastern European immigrants who were the other people filling up the factories at that time?
Also the riot was 1967, so no flames in 1965.
What is undeniably true is that Detroit’s population was nearly 2 million at its peak in the 1950s and is around 600,000 today, so an epic collapse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Detroit
You’re half-right. Alaska has the closest state capital to Canada, less than 30 miles. But that’s Juneau, not Anchorage, which appears to be at least 420 miles from Yukon Territory by road.
Unlike the other cities in Southeast Alaska, Juneau’s on the mainland, but it doesn’t have any road or rail connections to Canada. You have to take the ferry somewhere first, or fly out.
Montpelier, Vermont, is the next-closest capital to Canada, less than 70 miles by road, and probably less than 60 as the crow flies. Lansing, Michigan, therefore, would be third, and Augusta, Maine, a close fourth.
But Lansing’s on an Interstate to Detroit and a bridge to Windsor, so Lansing beats all the others for convenience to Canada. Google maps gives an identical one hour, 29 minutes from Lansing to Windsor, and from Montpelier to Highwater, Quebec.
Many years ago, I once tutored for free a female Canadian ('mature')student in her late 20s in math. She majored in English and didn't have grade 12th math but U. of Calgary insisted she got to complete grade 12th math before she could graduate. I was surprised that binomial theorem and compound angle formulas in trigonometry were included in the syllabus. I must say its very demanding for a language major. Not sure if the standard is still so vigorous these days; you see, math is 'racist'.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/its-not-just-a-joke-anymore-theyre-actually-claiming-math-is-racistReplies: @Autochthon
There are those who major in languages and those who major in languages. Majoring in one’s native language has always stricken me as silly; majoring in the advanced literature or philology and such thereof is perhaps legitimate – mastering all the nuances of Chaucer’s work’s, Ulysses or even To The Lighthouse or Shakespeare’s works seems a legitimate academic pursuit. Mastering a language one has been speaking sine a toddler seems like a sad thing to be doing in one’s twenties….
If the lady were Chinese and majoring in English, fair enough, I say. Or if she were an American majoring in Latin or Sumerian, too. But in such cases, I expect trigonometry would not be especially challenging, either. Those good at languages (and not just taking a phony major) generally are also good at mathematics and music – the three being very similar in terms of the brain’s learning conceptual rules and applying them to decipher (or compose) new works….
That woman(white, with 1/4th native Indian ancestry) was not particularly academically orientated.
When I was in 9th/10th grades(equivalent), I did found some of the compound angles exercise in trigonometry in old British textbooks challenging.
"..Those good at languages (and not just taking a phony major) generally are also good at mathematics and music – the three being very similar in terms of the brain’s learning conceptual rules and applying them to decipher (or compose) new works…."
Yes, there's established positive correlation between music and math ability. Learning to play piano is good motor nerves exercise
This helps in understanding the extreme emotional backlash of the liberals with Trump’s election. We’re dealing with Gay anger.
Rushton’s theory seems mostly right but on the other hand the Roman and Persian Empires and ancient Egypt had advanced civilizations in moderate climates.
Also the intellectual 'Big Bang' preceded the rise of civilizations by many thousands of years. The first civilizations seem to have required a warm river valley and an already smart people. Why were they smart?
Also, if nobody does this it’s because you’re all a big bunch of idiots who like to lose, and it’s not a reflection on the quality of my ideas.Replies: @BenKenobi, @kaganovitch, @Autochthon, @Jenner Ickham Errican
I take your point, but only folks in their twenties or members of the intellectual professions have time and energy to do such things. Even the likes of Sailer, Brimelowe, and Derbyshire (or even Tucker Carlson!) who’ve managed to make it their paid work are hard pressed to make a dent in the problem. Those of us striving to just earn money for our families (a burden increased mightily by the need to shield them from the Man’s schooling and media) and find time in the day to wash the dishes and get the laundry done with a bit left for de minimis recreation and time with that family so as not to be utterly miserable are hard-pressed to spend efforts battling the likes of eMpTyV, the New York Times, Disney, GOPe, etc…..
This conundrum is, of course, part of the plan and an intrinsic advantage to the enemy. It’s easier to destroy than to create or even defend and preserve, and so the globo-homo types have the family man by the short-and-curlies right out of the gate….
OK I lied, her real name is María Rebecca Latigo de Hernandez.Replies: @Mr. Anon, @syonredux, @Forbes
But did you pronounce it correctly? That’s the really important thing. That exaggerated NPR pronunciation, with every ‘r’ trilled and every picante accent on the right syllable, is what you need to be shooting for.
Sad.Replies: @MBlanc46
Not that they should try. There are few greater compliments to a city than to give it a name in your own language. It means the place is important enough that you have to say it often and easily.
On September 19th, the next International Talk Like a Pirate Day, I’m going to affect a somali accent.
Here's a hint, though. They tend to voice most consonants, kind of like Americans (little and Liddle are homophones) and Danes (Snekkersten comes off as "Snegger's den".)
So the ones working at the airport will direct you to the "diggeding level".
OT: The city of Austin, Texas considers changing a bunch of street names, and even the name of the city itself, in the interests of equity and social justice.
https://www.mystatesman.com/news/local/city-report-confederate-monuments-raises-idea-renaming-austin/W0ZX8x43xXWQbogdF6tE4M/
The erasure of american history is accelerating.
Character is another detail. Living someplace with long, cold winters requires laying in enough fuel to stay warm until the sun returns in spring, but eventual scarcity of fuel means whole families huddling around one minimum-sized fire. You have to have the time preference to lay in fuel early, the intelligence to understand how much fuel you need, and the character not to drive each other to violence in the long periods in very close quarters you're stuck in so as not to freeze to death. Volatile personalities need not apply; the phlegmatic are best adapted to this.
None of those selection pressures are going to operate in the always-warm tropics.Replies: @dr kill
The really smart ones stayed in the tropics, sat on their behinds and watched 3 or 4 fine-looking wives do all the work.
In a brief examination of research concerning IQ and happiness, it is accepted that high IQ people are happier. This is not my experience.
I find I'm happiest when I'm hanging around people +2 to +3 SD (I'm in the +3 range). It's idiots that get me down, unless they're fun to troll.Replies: @dr kill, @Pat Boyle, @Reg Cæsar
OK I lied, her real name is María Rebecca Latigo de Hernandez.Replies: @Mr. Anon, @syonredux, @Forbes
Interesting. The actual women looks considerably more European than her GoogleDoodle:
Heck, the Doodle practically makes her look like a mulatta….
https://i.imgur.com/I26rQh7.jpg
Also, you must mean US cities. Toronto and Vancouver are "located right on the Canadian border".
And isn't "are located" redundant? It's like "Where are you at?", or, worse, "Where are you located at?"Replies: @Dube, @anon, @Forbes, @Je Suis Omar Mateen
Cleveland and Toronto are at water’s edge–the international border runs equidistant through the center of the respective lakes (Erie and Ontario). Vancouver is on the western water, but a bit north of the border. Rochester is actually inland a bit, with only a couple of tentacle-like appendages reaching Ontario’s water.
https://twitter.com/pdacosta/status/1022895688018010112
https://twitter.com/aaronsojourner/status/1023238966148050944Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Corn, @Autochthon
I was listening to American Renaissance’s latest podcast and Taylor and Kersey claimed a Texas meatpacking plant raised its wages 25% after firing all its illegal workers.
Maybe we would have real wage growth if Kevin Yoder and the rest of the GOP’s Corporate Whore Wing was purged and we had some real border enforcement enacted instead of angry tweets.
And this assuming the stat is even true. Who knows nowadays
These places planted the seeds of their own destruction by looking for cheap labor. The postwar economy was booming and the factories needed anyone willing to work, especially anyone willing to work cheaply. In those days cheap labor meant black migrants from the South, especially the Mississippi Delta where they had been imported as an earlier form of cheap labor. They got temporary cheap labor and permanent headaches. American employers were willing to ruin their cities for the next century in order to increase this quarter's profits. The CEO's bonus was based on THIS quarter's results, not what Detroit would look like in 2 decades. Not that it took that long - by 1965 Detroit was in flames. Once the seeds of ruin are planted in fertile soil, they sprout quickly.Replies: @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Johnny Smoggins, @Autochthon, @MBlanc46
But today labor is expensive in Buffalo and Detroit (and environs), and much cheaper in Houston.
Is the name “Rebecca” common among Hispanics?
The #1 factor is parents that make kids do their homework. Parents who see education as vital to their kid’s future. That isn’t going to happen when the public face of universities and colleges is LGBTQWERTY activism, anarcho-communists, and STDs; and (more concretely) when students emerge from the educational system crippled with lifelong debt.
If anyone, anywhere connected to conservatives or Republicans wrote the corollary attacking the left or Democrats with such vindictiveness, the ankle-biting media would be all over any elected Republican to denounce and distance themselves from such statements.
As it’s a Democrat, crickets…
You have to go way down the list of US gov't atrocities before you get to the first Republican one. The Pachs just don't try hard enough.
Further, to cross the Canadian border, where Canada is located at, Detroiters travel farther south. Wrap that around your mind.Replies: @Forbes, @Reg Cæsar
Yes, that’s the old riddle: What country do you first enter when traveling south from Detroit?
Most everyone doesn’t know the answer is Canada. They guess somewhere in the Caribbean.
The great migration of black people to industrial Detroit was mostly before WW2, not after. And at that, they were mostly in the so-called "First Great Migration" of the 1910s and 1920s. Were they cheaper labor than the Appalachian and Eastern European immigrants who were the other people filling up the factories at that time?
Also the riot was 1967, so no flames in 1965.
What is undeniably true is that Detroit's population was nearly 2 million at its peak in the 1950s and is around 600,000 today, so an epic collapseReplies: @Ed
This isn’t accurate at least where Detroit is concerned. Blacks made up less than 10% of Detroit’s population. It was the defense industry during WW2 that pulled in blacks. By the 1950 Census the black population in actual numbers was double the 1940 black number
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Detroit
I’d argue labor is made artificially more expensive in Buffalo and Detroit due to welfare largesse offered to US citizens and artificially cheaper in Houston due to illegal migration
OK I lied, her real name is María Rebecca Latigo de Hernandez.Replies: @Mr. Anon, @syonredux, @Forbes
Do I get extra points because I’ve never heard of her…
‘The resources that matter are those the student brings to the school, including community traditions that value education. Or don’t.”
I can’t imagine a Democrat today saying anything like this at all. You might get a Republican to say it but he’d be denounced as a racist and forced to apologize by other Republicans.
Also, if nobody does this it’s because you’re all a big bunch of idiots who like to lose, and it’s not a reflection on the quality of my ideas.Replies: @BenKenobi, @kaganovitch, @Autochthon, @Jenner Ickham Errican
Really bad idea—that will just give those entities an excuse to memory-hole their own past articles. It behooves us on “the right side of reality,” as Sailer puts it, to have everything accessible.
In a brief examination of research concerning IQ and happiness, it is accepted that high IQ people are happier. This is not my experience.Replies: @Mr. Rational, @Pat Boyle, @MBlanc46
Dying early when the neighboring village raids to grab those wives has to take the luster off that life. So’s the fact that the modern-day descendants of those “smart” guys are the second-dumbest population on earth. Maybe the smart women decided to walk north?
I find I’m happiest when I’m hanging around people +2 to +3 SD (I’m in the +3 range). It’s idiots that get me down, unless they’re fun to troll.
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Further, to cross the Canadian border, where Canada is located at, Detroiters travel farther south. Wrap that around your mind.Replies: @Forbes, @Reg Cæsar
That’s an old one. My own frog line goes through Windsor and Detroit.
Try this one: which are, or were, Major League Baseball’s three northernmost ballparks? (Hint: they’re rainier than other venues, and the answer will make you sick.) And what were fourth and fifth?
Which EU country is closest to Canada?
Which East Coast port is closest to the latitude of the California-Baja border?
Which Rust Belt city is due north of Florida’s westernmost point, at the Escambia River?
How many state capitals are farther west than Santiago, Chile, on the Pacific?
Speaking of capitals; I propose some changes:
- Jefferson City (gotta change that; racist and all!)
- Jackson (ditto!)
- Madison (probably needs to go, too...)
- Indianapolis (ahem..."Native-American-Apolis")
- Columbus (yikes!)
- Columbia (again?!)
How'd I do? What do I win? Please of please tell me it's to be disinherited from my patrimony and to weep for my son as I heap ashes on my head ... wait; I already have that....Replies: @Appianglorius, @Autochthon, @donut, @Reg Cæsar
Most everyone doesn't know the answer is Canada. They guess somewhere in the Caribbean.Replies: @Mr. Rational
You mis-spelled “Detoilet”.
If the lady were Chinese and majoring in English, fair enough, I say. Or if she were an American majoring in Latin or Sumerian, too. But in such cases, I expect trigonometry would not be especially challenging, either. Those good at languages (and not just taking a phony major) generally are also good at mathematics and music – the three being very similar in terms of the brain's learning conceptual rules and applying them to decipher (or compose) new works....Replies: @Lin
I mostly agree.
That woman(white, with 1/4th native Indian ancestry) was not particularly academically orientated.
When I was in 9th/10th grades(equivalent), I did found some of the compound angles exercise in trigonometry in old British textbooks challenging.
“..Those good at languages (and not just taking a phony major) generally are also good at mathematics and music – the three being very similar in terms of the brain’s learning conceptual rules and applying them to decipher (or compose) new works….”
Yes, there’s established positive correlation between music and math ability. Learning to play piano is good motor nerves exercise
OTOH, there are probably a few generous ‘lurkers’ who send money to Steve in appreciation of his efforts alone.
It's Steve's right to curate comments, and I don't expect OT comments to post immediately, for example. I've thought about putting some twenties in an envelope - but one thing stops me every time. It's just honest feedback.
As it's a Democrat, crickets...Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Ronald Reagan got more grief for joking about thermonuclear weapons than Harry Truman ever did for using them on women and children.
You have to go way down the list of US gov’t atrocities before you get to the first Republican one. The Pachs just don’t try hard enough.
Good luck. I’ve been working alongside them for over 20 years, and still can’t do it.
Here’s a hint, though. They tend to voice most consonants, kind of like Americans (little and Liddle are homophones) and Danes (Snekkersten comes off as “Snegger’s den”.)
So the ones working at the airport will direct you to the “diggeding level”.
I know a lot of South Americans. They most of them think it is ridiculous and maybe even a little condescending when anglophones not actually able to speak Spanish do this with Spanish names (and words generally). I mean, no one goes out of his way to call Japan “Nippon” or Germany “Deutschland”(or Spain “España!”) when speaking English to other speakers of English, and, while not quite a perfect analogy, it’s perceived as equally obsequious and vapid. The allusion to NPR is spot on. Every single “Latino,” Oriental, Hindoo, etc.– plus all the more run-of-the-mill American (but left-wing) schmucks enunciates this stuff to the painful nth degree. They ain’t impressing nobody but themselves. Imagine if every American with a French, German, Irish, or Italian name did the same kind of nonsense – some guy named Joey Antonelli exaggerating his surname every time he spoke it so that he sounded like Father Guido Sarducci.
Sad.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-r2GPTWxcUtk/VErHbACuvBI/AAAAAAAAWXo/PvPmCkIx6Ac/s1600/hernandez.jpg
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Heck, the Doodle practically makes her look like a mulatta....Replies: @Carol, @PiltdownMan
I thought it was Billie Holliday.
No. Not at all.
Also, you must mean US cities. Toronto and Vancouver are "located right on the Canadian border".
And isn't "are located" redundant? It's like "Where are you at?", or, worse, "Where are you located at?"Replies: @Dube, @anon, @Forbes, @Je Suis Omar Mateen
‘And isn’t “are located” redundant? It’s like “Where are you at?”, or, worse, “Where are you located at?”’
‘Located’ and its variants are usually redundant and can be eliminated without otherwise changing the sentence in most cases. The same is true of ‘being’. Good writing uses neither word.
Any essay about intelligence or education should have bulletproof grammar.
#whereyouatdawg!
Try this one: which are, or were, Major League Baseball's three northernmost ballparks? (Hint: they're rainier than other venues, and the answer will make you sick.) And what were fourth and fifth?
Which EU country is closest to Canada?
Which East Coast port is closest to the latitude of the California-Baja border?
Which Rust Belt city is due north of Florida's westernmost point, at the Escambia River?
How many state capitals are farther west than Santiago, Chile, on the Pacific?Replies: @Autochthon, @Dtbb, @Tex
Seattle, Minneapolis, Toronto (Montréal once upon a time…), Milwaukee, and Boston.
Denmark (because of Greenland)
Savannah
Chicago
One: Augusta
Speaking of capitals; I propose some changes:
– Jefferson City (gotta change that; racist and all!)
– Jackson (ditto!)
– Madison (probably needs to go, too…)
– Indianapolis (ahem…”Native-American-Apolis”)
– Columbus (yikes!)
– Columbia (again?!)
How’d I do? What do I win? Please of please tell me it’s to be disinherited from my patrimony and to weep for my son as I heap ashes on my head … wait; I already have that….
Santiago is at 33°27′S 70°40′W longitude .
Augusta , Maine's Longitude is 69°46′48″W according to Wikipedia .Replies: @donut
No doubt. But if Steve wonders why someone who would leave 1200 comments and no money – well, that’s one answer.
It’s Steve’s right to curate comments, and I don’t expect OT comments to post immediately, for example. I’ve thought about putting some twenties in an envelope – but one thing stops me every time. It’s just honest feedback.
(I note that twitter links I see posted on Unz seem to give a lot of "Sorry, Twitter is taking too long to load" messages, paste them into a new browser and they are fine. Shadowlink-banning?)
https://twitter.com/primalpoly/status/1023580832223510528Replies: @sayless
“Political psychologists baffled by why American men don’t feel welcome in the Democratic Party”
Why don’t they ask them?
These places planted the seeds of their own destruction by looking for cheap labor. The postwar economy was booming and the factories needed anyone willing to work, especially anyone willing to work cheaply. In those days cheap labor meant black migrants from the South, especially the Mississippi Delta where they had been imported as an earlier form of cheap labor. They got temporary cheap labor and permanent headaches. American employers were willing to ruin their cities for the next century in order to increase this quarter's profits. The CEO's bonus was based on THIS quarter's results, not what Detroit would look like in 2 decades. Not that it took that long - by 1965 Detroit was in flames. Once the seeds of ruin are planted in fertile soil, they sprout quickly.Replies: @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Johnny Smoggins, @Autochthon, @MBlanc46
In It’s a Wonderful Life Buffalo is presented as a kind of promised land of economic opportunity compared to Bedford Falls.
You win the Captain Obvious award.
re:Google Doodle
Today was also Alexis de Tocqueville’s birthday, not that in the Current Year we’d be interested in remembering of honoring any of the contributions stale pale straight Whitemales…
It’s a Wonderful Life is kind of a Twilight Zone nightmare where George Bailey can never ever leave Bedford Falls. Every time he is about to go, something else stops him.
At least this was before feminism was added to the stop-him mix. Bedford Falls is supposedly modeled after Seneca Falls.
Yes, like the luggage that old man Gower (sp.?) bought him to go see the world with that never got him further than a couple of blocks away.
Try this one: which are, or were, Major League Baseball's three northernmost ballparks? (Hint: they're rainier than other venues, and the answer will make you sick.) And what were fourth and fifth?
Which EU country is closest to Canada?
Which East Coast port is closest to the latitude of the California-Baja border?
Which Rust Belt city is due north of Florida's westernmost point, at the Escambia River?
How many state capitals are farther west than Santiago, Chile, on the Pacific?Replies: @Autochthon, @Dtbb, @Tex
How many state capitals are west of los angeles?
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https://s3.amazonaws.com/arc-wordpress-client-uploads/infobae-wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/28201939/doodle-de-maria-rebecca-latigo-de-hernandez.jpg
Heck, the Doodle practically makes her look like a mulatta....Replies: @Carol, @PiltdownMan
You can say that again.
I think it was more like 10 days, if this is the woman you are referring to.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-17476615
There was another case, in Vietnam, decades later.
https://nypost.com/2016/10/02/i-was-the-sole-survivor-of-a-plane-crash-and-spent-7-days-in-the-jungle/
Look how Mexicans rose to US standards the minute the crossed the border.
Well, if that's true, if the US is made Canadian, all Americans will rise up to Canadian standards.Replies: @Redneck farmer
Being unable to fight for your independence, and having it granted by a foreign power?
Carson City?
L.A. is further east than you might think due to the coastline curving to the southeast, especially south of Point Concepcion.
The answer is six but you got it.
Those capitals are farther west than Los Angeles, but are not west of Los Angeles.
There is one state capital that is due west of Los Angeles: Columbia, South Carolina. Just go 323° to the west, and you're in the Soda City.Replies: @Dtbb
Speaking of capitals; I propose some changes:
- Jefferson City (gotta change that; racist and all!)
- Jackson (ditto!)
- Madison (probably needs to go, too...)
- Indianapolis (ahem..."Native-American-Apolis")
- Columbus (yikes!)
- Columbia (again?!)
How'd I do? What do I win? Please of please tell me it's to be disinherited from my patrimony and to weep for my son as I heap ashes on my head ... wait; I already have that....Replies: @Appianglorius, @Autochthon, @donut, @Reg Cæsar
France, not Denmark: the small French Islands of St Pierre et Miquelon are just miles away from the Newfoundland shores
https://twitter.com/pdacosta/status/1022895688018010112
https://twitter.com/aaronsojourner/status/1023238966148050944Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Corn, @Autochthon
Pffft. That graph is deceptive because the very few years make it appear the wages are meaningfully fluctuating; real wage growth has not occurred in the F.U.S.A. since the seventies, in large part because of (deliberate and for this very purpose!) overpopulation.
Sojourner won’t teach my grandmother how to suck an egg. Jackass.
Speaking of capitals; I propose some changes:
- Jefferson City (gotta change that; racist and all!)
- Jackson (ditto!)
- Madison (probably needs to go, too...)
- Indianapolis (ahem..."Native-American-Apolis")
- Columbus (yikes!)
- Columbia (again?!)
How'd I do? What do I win? Please of please tell me it's to be disinherited from my patrimony and to weep for my son as I heap ashes on my head ... wait; I already have that....Replies: @Appianglorius, @Autochthon, @donut, @Reg Cæsar
By which of course I meant “all but Augusta.” Attention to detail in the question’s formulation failed me.
Speaking of capitals; I propose some changes:
- Jefferson City (gotta change that; racist and all!)
- Jackson (ditto!)
- Madison (probably needs to go, too...)
- Indianapolis (ahem..."Native-American-Apolis")
- Columbus (yikes!)
- Columbia (again?!)
How'd I do? What do I win? Please of please tell me it's to be disinherited from my patrimony and to weep for my son as I heap ashes on my head ... wait; I already have that....Replies: @Appianglorius, @Autochthon, @donut, @Reg Cæsar
Every state capitol in the country is west of Santiago
Santiago is at 33°27′S 70°40′W longitude .
Augusta , Maine’s Longitude is 69°46′48″W according to Wikipedia .
https://paa.confex.com/paa/2016/meetingapp.cgi/Paper/6937
None of it's rocket science. They look at the educational and income characteristics of the husbands of married women with degrees and high incomes. They posit that these are the kind of husbands that unmarried women with degrees and high incomes would like to marry, and find that there aren't enough of those men to go round!Replies: @Autochthon
Notice how the whole thing assumes with no explanation the female perspective: there are not enough men to meet the (unquestioned because unquestionable!) criteria dictated by women to achieve worthiness.
I cannot wait for the next study in the series, which will be all about how there is a significant shortage of females who aren’t tubby, materialistic, boorish harridans more interested in being the center of attention than in being agreeable helpmates to their husbands and nurturing mothers to their children. When is that study scheduled for publication?
Our media/academic Cathedral/Synagogue doesn't just suggest falsehood, it likes to suppress truth as well.
Don’t these assholes typically let Easter come and go with no acknowledgement? I mean, whoever heard of that guy!? Now, Rebecca Garcia Hernandez de Montoya Estevez Morales Romero Montenegro Maldonado Perez y Valdez? How could we not honour such a world-changing icon!?
These places planted the seeds of their own destruction by looking for cheap labor. The postwar economy was booming and the factories needed anyone willing to work, especially anyone willing to work cheaply. In those days cheap labor meant black migrants from the South, especially the Mississippi Delta where they had been imported as an earlier form of cheap labor. They got temporary cheap labor and permanent headaches. American employers were willing to ruin their cities for the next century in order to increase this quarter's profits. The CEO's bonus was based on THIS quarter's results, not what Detroit would look like in 2 decades. Not that it took that long - by 1965 Detroit was in flames. Once the seeds of ruin are planted in fertile soil, they sprout quickly.Replies: @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Johnny Smoggins, @Autochthon, @MBlanc46
Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose….
I find I'm happiest when I'm hanging around people +2 to +3 SD (I'm in the +3 range). It's idiots that get me down, unless they're fun to troll.Replies: @dr kill, @Pat Boyle, @Reg Cæsar
I find imagining a better situation detracts somewhat from my contentment. Some I know can’t imagine any improvement in their current position.
https://www.mystatesman.com/news/local/city-report-confederate-monuments-raises-idea-renaming-austin/W0ZX8x43xXWQbogdF6tE4M/
The erasure of american history is accelerating.Replies: @Tex
I say we re-name the town Sh**libistan and get it over with.
Santiago is at 33°27′S 70°40′W longitude .
Augusta , Maine's Longitude is 69°46′48″W according to Wikipedia .Replies: @donut
Sorry I meant to say all the state capitols but Maine’s are WEST of Santiago . Augusta is the only one East of Santiago .
Try this one: which are, or were, Major League Baseball's three northernmost ballparks? (Hint: they're rainier than other venues, and the answer will make you sick.) And what were fourth and fifth?
Which EU country is closest to Canada?
Which East Coast port is closest to the latitude of the California-Baja border?
Which Rust Belt city is due north of Florida's westernmost point, at the Escambia River?
How many state capitals are farther west than Santiago, Chile, on the Pacific?Replies: @Autochthon, @Dtbb, @Tex
France, you can drive (or take a ferry) from Newfoundland to the French islands of St. Pierre & Miquelon.
I think there is more to it and I was wondering about a missing piece of theory.
Also the intellectual ‘Big Bang’ preceded the rise of civilizations by many thousands of years. The first civilizations seem to have required a warm river valley and an already smart people. Why were they smart?
I should not have been so flip. Jim makes an interesting point with a good example.
Interestingly, the geneticist Luigi Cavalli-Sforza found that the Southern Chinese genetically cluster with Southeast Asian populations.
So they would seem to be a very notable exception to the "cold weather" hypothesis.Replies: @DFH, @Pat Boyle
The way I read the world IQ map there are two “hot spots”: North West Europe (Germany, England, Italy etc.) and North East Asia (Japan, Korea and China). The southern nations in the East and the West have lower test scores.
I find I'm happiest when I'm hanging around people +2 to +3 SD (I'm in the +3 range). It's idiots that get me down, unless they're fun to troll.Replies: @dr kill, @Pat Boyle, @Reg Cæsar
I too like smarter people. After my second divorce I advertised on Match.com for woman. I specified that she should have a doctorate. Worked out well.
In a brief examination of research concerning IQ and happiness, it is accepted that high IQ people are happier. This is not my experience.Replies: @Mr. Rational, @Pat Boyle, @MBlanc46
I’m sorry to hear that you are unhappy.
I’m pretty sure that’s correct. The islands, like French Guiana, are fully part of France. Greenland may be closer, but, unlike the rest of Denmark, is outside the EU.
I find I'm happiest when I'm hanging around people +2 to +3 SD (I'm in the +3 range). It's idiots that get me down, unless they're fun to troll.Replies: @dr kill, @Pat Boyle, @Reg Cæsar
That sure doesn’t seem to be the case in North America!
Speaking of capitals; I propose some changes:
- Jefferson City (gotta change that; racist and all!)
- Jackson (ditto!)
- Madison (probably needs to go, too...)
- Indianapolis (ahem..."Native-American-Apolis")
- Columbus (yikes!)
- Columbia (again?!)
How'd I do? What do I win? Please of please tell me it's to be disinherited from my patrimony and to weep for my son as I heap ashes on my head ... wait; I already have that....Replies: @Appianglorius, @Autochthon, @donut, @Reg Cæsar
Greenland left the EU (but not Denmark) in 1985. So St Pierre it is.
If you think Madison is bad, there’s still a Pinckney Street there– not far from MLK.
“Albany” means “white”, or appears to, doesn’t it? Providence, Des Moines, Saint Paul, Santa Fe, Sacramento, Salem, Olympia, and a few others… all religious!
Lansing was named after Lansing, NY, which was named after a prominent Anti-Federalist. I don’t know how un-PC that is, but Hamilton refused to vote at the Constitutional Convention after John Lansing and Peter Yates stormed out, as he didn’t feel it right to pretend to represent the entire state of New York.
'Located' and its variants are usually redundant and can be eliminated without otherwise changing the sentence in most cases. The same is true of 'being'. Good writing uses neither word.
Any essay about intelligence or education should have bulletproof grammar.
#whereyouatdawg!Replies: @Dube
Stop everything. The nit I pick: Canada “is at” the border.
I cannot wait for the next study in the series, which will be all about how there is a significant shortage of females who aren't tubby, materialistic, boorish harridans more interested in being the center of attention than in being agreeable helpmates to their husbands and nurturing mothers to their children. When is that study scheduled for publication?Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
I’m not sure, but I think it just possible that you wouldn’t get a research grant for that work.
Our media/academic Cathedral/Synagogue doesn’t just suggest falsehood, it likes to suppress truth as well.
That wasn’t far from the truth 70 years ago.
Twilight Zone, or Groundhog Day?
At least this was before feminism was added to the stop-him mix. Bedford Falls is supposedly modeled after Seneca Falls.
These places planted the seeds of their own destruction by looking for cheap labor. The postwar economy was booming and the factories needed anyone willing to work, especially anyone willing to work cheaply. In those days cheap labor meant black migrants from the South, especially the Mississippi Delta where they had been imported as an earlier form of cheap labor. They got temporary cheap labor and permanent headaches. American employers were willing to ruin their cities for the next century in order to increase this quarter's profits. The CEO's bonus was based on THIS quarter's results, not what Detroit would look like in 2 decades. Not that it took that long - by 1965 Detroit was in flames. Once the seeds of ruin are planted in fertile soil, they sprout quickly.Replies: @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Johnny Smoggins, @Autochthon, @MBlanc46
Well put, JD. The lust of the employer class for cheap labor is certainly the most corrosive force in American history. The 1861–1865 civil war is its most obvious, but far from only, consequence.
In a brief examination of research concerning IQ and happiness, it is accepted that high IQ people are happier. This is not my experience.Replies: @Mr. Rational, @Pat Boyle, @MBlanc46
Well, three or four wives, anyway.
Sad.Replies: @MBlanc46
But you’d better say Mumbai, Sri Lanka, and Myanmar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7EjxI27aMc
By the way, I enjoyed my trip to New Amsterdam yesterday.
The answer is none.
Those capitals are farther west than Los Angeles, but are not west of Los Angeles.
There is one state capital that is due west of Los Angeles: Columbia, South Carolina. Just go 323° to the west, and you’re in the Soda City.
How do they handle “Rio de Janeiro”? Only the second R is trilled. In fact, Anglophones usually only get two syllables right, the “Janei-“.
Not that they should try. There are few greater compliments to a city than to give it a name in your own language. It means the place is important enough that you have to say it often and easily.
Those capitals are farther west than Los Angeles, but are not west of Los Angeles.
There is one state capital that is due west of Los Angeles: Columbia, South Carolina. Just go 323° to the west, and you're in the Soda City.Replies: @Dtbb
What bearing westwards would result in the shortest distance from l.a. to charleston? You got me on the lexicography.
Charleston, West Virginia? Charleston, North Carolina? Another, less famous Charleston…?
Well played!
Oops. My brain went southward.
You can say whatever you like, half the locals probably do anyway, even to the tune of My Darling Clementine.
By the way, I enjoyed my trip to New Amsterdam yesterday.