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From the Washington Post:

How white nationalists are trying to co-opt ‘Black Panther’

White nationalists have sought to mischaracterize the title character — the superhero king of the fictional, secluded and wealthy African nation of Wakanda — as an “alt-right” ally in opposing immigration, diversity and democracy.

By Craig Timberg, Drew Harwell and Steven Zeitchik

… It claimed the superhero opposed immigration, diversity and democracy while favoring “ethno-nationalism” — a profound mischaracterization of the movie’s main themes, according to researchers at Data & Society, a New York-based think tank that studied far-right online conversation about the film.

I’ve never heard of Data & Society before, but if, say, Morris Dees of the SPLC gets #MeTooed, they may have positioned themselves well to cash in in the lucrative hate industry.

Researchers said the episode seemed to mark a turn for white nationalists online. Instead of avoiding a cultural phenomenon that conflicts with their ideology, they have sought to subvert and transform it in hopes of recruiting followers and normalizing their views on white supremacy. The misinformation campaign also shows how such groups are increasingly propagating disinformation, by morphing breaking news and cultural touchstones into staging grounds for hateful ideologies and racist ideas.

Malkia Cyril, the executive director of the Center for Media Justice, an Oakland-based nonprofit group, said, “The claim that the Black Panther hero, King T’Challa, represents the core beliefs of the alt right — isolationism, anti-globalism and racial homogeneity — is preposterous, and can only be asserted by white supremacists or people who really don’t understand the relationship between Africans in the diaspora and on the continent.” …

“Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”

 
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  1. #StatuaryRape

    Controversial Cornwallis statue removed from Halifax park
    …Jan 31, 2018

    …A statue of Edward Cornwallis, Halifax’s controversial founder, was removed from the park that also bears his name Wednesday afternoon.

    Halifax regional council voted 12-4 Tuesday to remove the bronze monument commemorating Cornwallis, the military officer who founded Halifax in 1749.

    The decision comes after increasing controversy over Cornwallis’s so-called scalping proclamation that offered a cash bounty to anyone who killed a Mi’kmaw person.

  2. • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Wakanda makes me think of this song (starting at 0:31). Or maybe he’s saying “Oaxaca”.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L78yVFeyvRo

  3. “New think tank studying the alt-right” means “stuff we made up.”
    If you tried to convince a Medieval peasant of something (say, the structure of the heavens), you probably wouldn’t get very far, but if you want to convince a trendy modern of anything, you just have to attribute it to Russia or the “alt-right.”
    That said, they are clumsily reframing very reasonable observations made by many people (most of whom would not consider themselves to be “alt-right”). It was not Richard Spencer who put in the line “refugees bring their own problems.” And Black Panther is hardly the first time that family values, religion, sovereignty, patriarchy and child-rearing are okay so long as whites aren’t doing them.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @J.Ross

    How dare the Evil Ones use our ideas against us?!

  4. “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”

    So what’s the problem? Let’s let both parties have what they want.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Harry Baldwin

    https://twitter.com/Demon_Knyte/status/961747215579471872

    , @ben tillman
    @Harry Baldwin


    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”
     
    As if there were a difference.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Harry Baldwin


    So what’s the problem?
     
    It would disrupt the diversity scam that is required by the Left to implement 1984. But of course you knew that.
    , @res
    @Harry Baldwin


    So what’s the problem? Let’s let both parties have what they want.
     
    The problem is they don't really want isolationism. They want "What is ours is ours and what is yours is also ours."
  5. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    a profound mischaracterization of the movie’s main themes, according to researchers

    Anyone who sees a movie has just as much authority to characterize what it means as anyone else. Everyone’s entitled to his opinion.

    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”

    I’d say that both do not want to be colonized, reverse colonized in the case of the U.S.

    The two quoted researchers seem to be a hipster black guy and an Indian immigrant woman, although “Kinjal Dave” seems to be the Indian equivilant of “Mary Smith,” so an ID is difficult.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    a profound mischaracterization of the movie’s main themes, according to researchers
     
    Researchers? Do Harvard, Yale and MIT have teams at work analyzing Wakanda now?

    Replies: @CCZ

  6. “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers.

    That’s not true at all. There’s a line in the film where one of the king’s friends specifically says he doesn’t want to bring “refugees and their problems” into their hermit kingdom.

    • Agree: Sarah Toga
    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Earl Lemongrab


    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers.

    That’s not true at all. There’s a line in the film where one of the king’s friends specifically says he doesn’t want to bring “refugees and their problems” into their hermit kingdom.
     
    Yeah. A character expressly notes that, " When you let in refugees, they bring their problems with them.”
  7. a New York-based think tank that studied far-right online conversation about the film.

    So that’s actually what some people do with their lives, that’s a real job… wow.

    “Malkia Cyril, the executive director of the Center for Media Justice, an Oakland-based nonprofit group”

    There really is a whole industry behind this stuff!

  8. the movie’s main themes

    Black ethno-nationalism = diversity = good.

    White ethno-nationalism = white supremacy = evil.

    You see, we are all supposed to get it through our thick skulls. Black people are awesome, and we should all be thankful to live within their midst. All the poverty, violence, and other forms of dysfunction are but a small price to pay for the privilege of their vibrancy (or is it Vibranium, I don’t know, I haven’t seen the film and won’t).

    Of course, if the leftists were genuinely interested in fostering friendly and constructive inter-racial relationships between blacks and non-blacks, this is exactly the wrong thing to do, constantly shoving the boot on our faces. If, on the other hand, the goal is to humiliate and prostrate non-blacks, this all makes sense.

    • Agree: res
    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Twinkie

    I think leftists are still frustrated with the term, Alt-Right...because they just want so badly, to figure out a way to identify the enemy, I suppose..figure out who to hate, vilify/destroy, whatever. Leftists/Democrats love, love, love to label and "check boxes" of grievance or identity.

    There is no Alt-Right identity. Alt-Right is full of much more diversity than Democrats could ever know - because it is not skin color/race/ancestry, exclusively,...everything leftists/Democrat idiots believe about the people they appear to hate, hate, hate, all the time.

    Alt-Right (a term I never use because it is silly; and I abhor the way it sounds in ways I can not even explain ) - it is a belief of not accepting/wanting the destruction/belittlement of Western Civilization, or the negating and invalidating the immeasurable contributions of civilization by Western great minds in STEM & Art, philosophy, religion, etc.

    Personally, I like Alright, alright, alright and Livin, to describe what people who want to preserve (conserve) the legacy of Western Civilization, believe.

    https://youtu.be/FiTaK3Fyj0k

    https://youtu.be/WtiH4RCdYTk

  9. When will the loopy left learn Argument 101? The alt-right interpretation of Black Panther is convincingly argued in Breitbart from the actual plot points of the movie. This refutation isn’t a refutation. It’s saying in way too many words, “No, uh uh!” If lefties refuse to engage in dispute, making and supporting counterclaims with evidence, warrants, and backing they risk looking like retards who deserve a full refund for thrir college educations.

    • Replies: @Neuday
    @JimB

    Have you never argued with a woman, bro?

    Replies: @Nico, @AndrewR

    , @ben tillman
    @JimB

    Genuine argument isn't necessary as long as the other side isn't allowed to speak.

  10. Anonymous [AKA "Simple and Pseudonymic Handle"] says:
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    (Nearly) Every, Single, Time.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/12/arts/music/james-levine-metropolitan-opera.html

  11. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    This isn’t derangement, it’s just stupidity. Analogical reasoning correlates very highly with IQ. The analogy section of the SAT was the most IQ loaded section of the test before they got rid of it. It’s perfectly understandable why blacks would have trouble seeing the analogy here, but it’s puzzling why whites with average and above average IQs would have trouble seeing it.

  12. OT: Unlike Ismael in Berkeley, “Clock Boy” will not have a windfall. I guess he will need to find another source of funds for his advanced technology research and development, which might have been the foundation of a Sudanese “Wakanda” and won the Sudanese presidential election for his Sudan born father.

    ‘Clock Boy’ Ahmed Mohamed’s Lawsuit Against Irving ISD, City Dismissed
    Dallas News, March 14, Updated at 7:30 PM

    “A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit filed against Irving ISD, the City of Irving and several individuals by the father of a teen who was arrested after bringing to school a homemade clock that was mistaken for a bomb.”

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @CCZ


    ‘Clock Boy’ Ahmed Mohamed’s Lawsuit Against Irving ISD, City Dismissed
    Dallas News, March 14, Updated at 7:30 PM
    “A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit filed against Irving ISD, the City of Irving and several individuals by the father of a teen who was arrested after bringing to school a homemade clock that was mistaken for a bomb.”
     
    Real justice means the judge will order clock boy's family to pay the lawyers bills (fees) for the Irving school district and other entities these publicity hounds sued.
  13. istevefan says:

    Instead of avoiding a cultural phenomenon that conflicts with their ideology, they have sought to subvert and transform it in hopes of recruiting followers and normalizing their views on white supremacy.

    Once again they equate separatism with supremacy. White nationalist doesn’t equal white supremacist. It would be like saying the Amish are supremacists when all they want to do is live in their own communities their own way.

    I can’t tell if they are just obtuse and don’t realize the distinction, or they realize it and have decided to use supremacist anyway for the baggage it carries.

    • Agree: Autochthon
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @istevefan

    If they didn't defame us as parasites they would have to deal with a huge number of nonwhites not getting what's wrong with separatism.

    , @Anonymous
    @istevefan


    It would be like saying the Amish are supremacists when all they want to do is live in their own communities their own way.
     
    Amish? Is that what they're calling them now?

    /s
    , @bomag
    @istevefan


    I can’t tell if they are just obtuse and don’t realize the distinction, or they realize it and have decided to use supremacist anyway for the baggage it carries.
     
    They are trained to negatively salivate when "white" is put in front of anything. All terms are interchangeable.
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @istevefan



    Instead of avoiding a cultural phenomenon that conflicts with their ideology, they have sought to subvert and transform it in hopes of recruiting followers and normalizing their views on white supremacy.
     
    Once again they equate separatism with supremacy. White nationalist doesn’t equal white supremacist. It would be like saying the Amish are supremacists when all they want to do is live in their own communities their own way.

    I can’t tell if they are just obtuse and don’t realize the distinction, or they realize it and have decided to use supremacist anyway for the baggage it carries.

     

    Well, explaining it as "white people wanting to live in overwhelmingly white places with other white people and the culture that this produces" sounds too much like what left wingers actually do in practice, and sounds like something reasonable to which downscale whites might aspire.

    You can only be a guiltless white separatist if you make enough to afford to live in, say, Princeton, New Jersey. And in that case it's called "good schools."
  14. @istevefan

    Instead of avoiding a cultural phenomenon that conflicts with their ideology, they have sought to subvert and transform it in hopes of recruiting followers and normalizing their views on white supremacy.
     
    Once again they equate separatism with supremacy. White nationalist doesn't equal white supremacist. It would be like saying the Amish are supremacists when all they want to do is live in their own communities their own way.

    I can't tell if they are just obtuse and don't realize the distinction, or they realize it and have decided to use supremacist anyway for the baggage it carries.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Anonymous, @bomag, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    If they didn’t defame us as parasites they would have to deal with a huge number of nonwhites not getting what’s wrong with separatism.

  15. Three seems like a lot to have in a byline, I wonder how they decide whose name goes first…

    Regarding the name quoted last of all: I’ve found that people from Malthusian countries generally have an open-hearted sentiment when it comes to opening the borders of Western countries.

  16. ” “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.” ”

    Australia considering fast-track visa program for white South African farmers

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/australia-considering-fast-track-visa-program-for-white-south-african-farmers/ar-BBKdH5W

  17. Wakandans don’t want to wind up refugees … just like white South Africans:

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/mar/14/dutton-considers-fast-track-visas-for-white-south-african-farmers

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @Big Bill

    More Dutton news:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/22/australia-defies-crazy-lefties-promises-to-aid-white-minority-south-african-farmers/


    All the criticism over the last week has meant nothing to me. We’re looking at ways we can help people to migrate to Australia if they find themselves in that situation. We’ve been inundated with messages of support and references for particular cases.

    It concerns me that people are being persecuted at the moment, that’s the reality — the number of people dying or being savagely attacked in South Africa is a reality.

    There’s lots of outrage from some of the crazy lefties at the ABC, the Guardian and Huffington Post can express concern and draw mean cartoons about me and all the rest of it — they don’t realise how completely dead they are to me.
     
  18. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”

    ???

    Yeah, the nationalists don’t want to accept refugees because too many of them will turn you into refugees. GAP or Go Ask the Palestinians. All those Jewish refugees sure wiped Palestine off the map. And California sure look like a different world.

    Btw, it’s my understanding that the Wakanda in the original comic book remains a closed society.

    What is it about really? Did the comic book writers project Zionism onto Africa?

    A kind of black Israel keeping out black ‘Arabs’?

    Vibranium makes the land holy.

    Well, Jews got the holy land.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    Did the comic book writers project Zionism onto Africa?

    Both guys who bought Marvel in the 1990s are veterans of the Six Days War.

    Replies: @syonredux

  19. @Anon
    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”

    ???

    Yeah, the nationalists don't want to accept refugees because too many of them will turn you into refugees. GAP or Go Ask the Palestinians. All those Jewish refugees sure wiped Palestine off the map. And California sure look like a different world.

    Btw, it's my understanding that the Wakanda in the original comic book remains a closed society.

    What is it about really? Did the comic book writers project Zionism onto Africa?

    A kind of black Israel keeping out black 'Arabs'?

    Vibranium makes the land holy.

    Well, Jews got the holy land.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Did the comic book writers project Zionism onto Africa?

    Both guys who bought Marvel in the 1990s are veterans of the Six Days War.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Steve Sailer


    Did the comic book writers project Zionism onto Africa?

    Both guys who bought Marvel in the 1990s are veterans of the Six Days War.

     

    Maybe by looking to African examples for Wakanda (Ethiopia, Lesotho, Swaziland, etc), we've been looking at the wrong continent....

    Maybe Israel is the correct model: ethnocentric, strong borders, more technologically advanced than its neighbors, .....

    ....And then there's the business with Wakanda possessing an uber-competent intelligence service...an intelligence service that has deep-cover operatives stationed in foreign countries....operatives who can successfully pass as natives of the countries where they are stationed....

    Replies: @International Jew, @Charles Erwin Wilson

  20. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    South Africa is about to go under, but the national discourse is about Wakanda.

    What kind of Peter Pan dumbass world are we living in? It’s like Ceausescu propaganda about how Romania is a land of freedom, liberty, equality, and wonders. Ceausescu bought into his own myth and was shocked when the people said NO. But at least there really is a Romania.

    But Wakanda? A comic book wonderland? This is what the elites are discussing as something of great significance and importance? What is this, the new El Dorado?

    And I haven’t seen it, but how does the movie end?

    Negroes in Wakanda are gonna share vibranium or some technology to save Negroes and humanity all over the world? These blacks who are total leeches upon humanity are made to fantasize about giving to the rest of the world?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anon

    "South Africa is about to go under..."

    Could this be Sarajevo? I suspect that won't be good for anyone.

    I don't think actual global race war will be good for Cyril Ramaphosa, for sure.

    (I was going to offer some suggestions for Mr. Ramaphosa, but I suspect he can come up with some ideas to forestall problems.)

    , @bomag
    @Anon

    The general problem is that today's political discourse assumes that utopia automatically backfills the world when you take away negative historical events.

    Thus utopia exists in Africa sans the slave trade, colonialism, etc.

    Blacks in America would enjoy hyper-utopia sans slavery, Jim Crow, discrimination, etc.

    That some of this is path independent never seems to be considered.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Anon

    Anon, Simple question for the elites..."Why doesn't a Wakanda actually exist?" And I don't want to hear that the Colonists stole all the good stuff.

  21. Typical of white men. If they can’t create it they steal or exploit it

    Is this movie so threatening to you that you obsess over it

    No wonder white girls crave Men of Color

    • Troll: IHTG
    • Replies: @newrouter
    @Tiny Duck

    "Typical of black men. They can’t create it so they steal or exploit it"

    , @Yan Shen
    @Tiny Duck

    So uh the handle Giant Duck is obviously just a play off of your own handle Tiny Duck, I presume? Have all the ducks here at Unz ever met before in person?

    Replies: @Giant Duck

    , @fish
    @Tiny Duck

    Oh Tinys.....you bein as smug as a oberprotektiv gurlfrend ob dat moovy you’n make me sit tru 18 tymzes.

    Lender “He be wearin ribbed fo Ttinys pleshur” Pitttz

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Anonymous, @Clyde

    , @interesting
    @Tiny Duck

    LOL....to fucking funny.......I was reading this troll and thought this sounds like that idiot tiny what ever the fuck his name is and then I happened to look at who authored this nonsense and sure enough it was you.

    trolls like this are easy to spot.........LoL, and you can have'm. keep'm coming dude, I like a good laugh as much as anyone.

    , @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    @Tiny Duck

    "No wonder white girls crave Men of Color"

    I told you once, Tiny Dick, and I'll tell you again - mudsharking is pretty much a fatties-only endeavor.

  22. Note how in an article about how alt-right media has covered “Black Panther”, there’s not a single link to such media. I guess, lest one of Wapo’s readers get converted to the dark side.

    To make up for that in a small way, I’ll link to what I think is the best of the genre:

    Especially from 2:50.

  23. @Earl Lemongrab
    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers.


    That's not true at all. There's a line in the film where one of the king's friends specifically says he doesn't want to bring "refugees and their problems" into their hermit kingdom.

    Replies: @syonredux

    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers.

    That’s not true at all. There’s a line in the film where one of the king’s friends specifically says he doesn’t want to bring “refugees and their problems” into their hermit kingdom.

    Yeah. A character expressly notes that, ” When you let in refugees, they bring their problems with them.”

  24. “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”

    Kinjal Dave’s CV:

    Kinjal Dave is a Research Assistant at Data & Society supporting the Media Manipulation team and institute-wide copyediting for research outputs. She is committed to understanding the ongoing influence of white supremacy and racial inequality in various U.S. American systems. Her current interests lie at the intersection of transnational feminist epistemology and the rhetoric of whiteness. Previously, her research at Data & Society focused on the influence of data on educational inequity in school choice systems. She holds a BA in Philosophy and Political Science from Villanova University.

    https://datasociety.net/people/dave-kinjal/

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @syonredux


    supporting the Media Manipulation team
     
    I wonder if perhaps they need to rethink their labeling ... it's a bit too accurate...
    , @The King is A Fink
    @syonredux

    There I was thinking she would be a data scientist specialising in sentiment analysis. What has a BA in Bolloxology got to do with data, I wonder?

    , @Pericles
    @syonredux

    Easiest summarized as


    Her current interests: lie

     

    , @peterike
    @syonredux


    Kinjal Dave is a Research Assistant at Data & Society supporting the Media Manipulation team and institute-wide copyediting for research outputs. She is committed to understanding the ongoing influence of white supremacy and racial inequality in various U.S. American systems.
     
    Peterike's Law in action!!

    She looks kinda whiteish though. I wonder if she's mixed.

    Replies: @Forbes

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @syonredux

    syon, You know some one over there was just dying to use "intersection of transnational feminist epistemology" all in one sentence. The phrase " rhetoric of whiteness" is the cherry on top of the whipped cream.

    , @Forbes
    @syonredux

    The datasociety.net web site is a hoot. Looks like it was started by Microsoft, it has a sprinkling of MS people on a very large board, with a boatload of social science and 'communication' people.

    It looks like they want to be a gatekeeper for propaganda churned out by the left. By physiognomy, it look like a LGBTQWERTY convention. But looks can be deceiving...

  25. @Tiny Duck
    Typical of white men. If they can't create it they steal or exploit it

    Is this movie so threatening to you that you obsess over it

    No wonder white girls crave Men of Color

    Replies: @newrouter, @Yan Shen, @fish, @interesting, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    “Typical of black men. They can’t create it so they steal or exploit it”

  26. @JimB
    When will the loopy left learn Argument 101? The alt-right interpretation of Black Panther is convincingly argued in Breitbart from the actual plot points of the movie. This refutation isn’t a refutation. It’s saying in way too many words, “No, uh uh!” If lefties refuse to engage in dispute, making and supporting counterclaims with evidence, warrants, and backing they risk looking like retards who deserve a full refund for thrir college educations.

    Replies: @Neuday, @ben tillman

    Have you never argued with a woman, bro?

    • LOL: Laugh Track, Escher
    • Replies: @Nico
    @Neuday

    Not a few of us on here would argue that most women should not be in most colleges. (Neither should most men actually, but that’s another problem.)

    , @AndrewR
    @Neuday

    If the left ain't happy, ain't no one happy.

  27. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    Did the comic book writers project Zionism onto Africa?

    Both guys who bought Marvel in the 1990s are veterans of the Six Days War.

    Replies: @syonredux

    Did the comic book writers project Zionism onto Africa?

    Both guys who bought Marvel in the 1990s are veterans of the Six Days War.

    Maybe by looking to African examples for Wakanda (Ethiopia, Lesotho, Swaziland, etc), we’ve been looking at the wrong continent….

    Maybe Israel is the correct model: ethnocentric, strong borders, more technologically advanced than its neighbors, …..

    ….And then there’s the business with Wakanda possessing an uber-competent intelligence service…an intelligence service that has deep-cover operatives stationed in foreign countries….operatives who can successfully pass as natives of the countries where they are stationed….

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @syonredux


    operatives who can successfully pass as natives of the countries where they are stationed
     
    Yeah, like in Oakland!
    Israel lacks Wakanda's great natural advantage of being somewhere it doesn't get noticed. Israel is where Africa, Asia and Europe meet.

    Replies: @syonredux

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @syonredux


    Maybe Israel is the correct model: ethnocentric, strong borders, more technologically advanced than its neighbors,
     
    Maybe you are onto something! The problem is there is no way to unring the bell. And while I get why some Americans dislike or hate Jews in America, I don't understand why the same people don't love Israel.

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian

  28. Wakanda is fictional??

    Hotelscan.com reported that the number of people landing on its page for Wakanda Water Park [Menomonie, WI] is up by 620 per cent.

    A spokesperson for hotelscan.com commented: The fact we’ve seen such an increase in the number of site visits to the Wakanda Water Park destination page on our website since the launch of Black Panther suggests that, until people visit our website searching for trips, they’re not aware it’s a fictional destination.

    Either that, or people are more interested than ever in attending the Water Park, but we think that the movie has something to do with it!

    Hotels.com, meanwhile, said it had spotted spikes in searches to other Wakanda namesakes around the world.

    White supremacy cultural appropriation, Menomonie, WI is 90% white and only 1% black.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @CCZ

    That water park better invest in some serious security now.

    Replies: @Steve in Greensboro

  29. “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees”

    A mass influx of foreigners could turn the natives into refugees. I’d say that pretty much sums of the (quite valid) concerns of the “alt right.”

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @JollyOldSoul

    I like how she is saying that black people cannot avoid societal collapse, not even in fantasy, not even with magic technology.

  30. Goodness Gracious! All this hubbub over such flatulent fantasy-mongering. Writing, talking, preaching, praying about Wakanda will not make it real, except in the most deluded of minds. If Africa had not been colonized it would be the same as it was three centuries ago – and is in many parts of the continent today – a genuine sh*thole.

    • Replies: @tyrone
    @Hubbub

    RIGHT, it's a lot of bulls**t ,by the way south africa is in the process of expropriating their "vibranium",somebody in OZ grew a brain and decided to get it for free!

  31. @syonredux
    @Steve Sailer


    Did the comic book writers project Zionism onto Africa?

    Both guys who bought Marvel in the 1990s are veterans of the Six Days War.

     

    Maybe by looking to African examples for Wakanda (Ethiopia, Lesotho, Swaziland, etc), we've been looking at the wrong continent....

    Maybe Israel is the correct model: ethnocentric, strong borders, more technologically advanced than its neighbors, .....

    ....And then there's the business with Wakanda possessing an uber-competent intelligence service...an intelligence service that has deep-cover operatives stationed in foreign countries....operatives who can successfully pass as natives of the countries where they are stationed....

    Replies: @International Jew, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    operatives who can successfully pass as natives of the countries where they are stationed

    Yeah, like in Oakland!
    Israel lacks Wakanda’s great natural advantage of being somewhere it doesn’t get noticed. Israel is where Africa, Asia and Europe meet.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @International Jew


    operatives who can successfully pass as natives of the countries where they are stationed

    Yeah, like in Oakland!
     
    For Israel, it's London, New York, Los Angeles, Paris, .....
  32. @CCZ
    Wakanda is fictional??

    Hotelscan.com reported that the number of people landing on its page for Wakanda Water Park [Menomonie, WI] is up by 620 per cent.

    A spokesperson for hotelscan.com commented: The fact we've seen such an increase in the number of site visits to the Wakanda Water Park destination page on our website since the launch of Black Panther suggests that, until people visit our website searching for trips, they're not aware it's a fictional destination.

    Either that, or people are more interested than ever in attending the Water Park, but we think that the movie has something to do with it!

    Hotels.com, meanwhile, said it had spotted spikes in searches to other Wakanda namesakes around the world.
     
    White supremacy cultural appropriation, Menomonie, WI is 90% white and only 1% black.

    Replies: @International Jew

    That water park better invest in some serious security now.

    • Replies: @Steve in Greensboro
    @International Jew

    Or at least set up a Popeye's Fried Chicken store across the street.

  33. @International Jew
    @syonredux


    operatives who can successfully pass as natives of the countries where they are stationed
     
    Yeah, like in Oakland!
    Israel lacks Wakanda's great natural advantage of being somewhere it doesn't get noticed. Israel is where Africa, Asia and Europe meet.

    Replies: @syonredux

    operatives who can successfully pass as natives of the countries where they are stationed

    Yeah, like in Oakland!

    For Israel, it’s London, New York, Los Angeles, Paris, …..

  34. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    South Africa is about to go under, but the national discourse is about Wakanda.

    What kind of Peter Pan dumbass world are we living in? It's like Ceausescu propaganda about how Romania is a land of freedom, liberty, equality, and wonders. Ceausescu bought into his own myth and was shocked when the people said NO. But at least there really is a Romania.

    But Wakanda? A comic book wonderland? This is what the elites are discussing as something of great significance and importance? What is this, the new El Dorado?

    And I haven't seen it, but how does the movie end?

    Negroes in Wakanda are gonna share vibranium or some technology to save Negroes and humanity all over the world? These blacks who are total leeches upon humanity are made to fantasize about giving to the rest of the world?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @bomag, @Buffalo Joe

    “South Africa is about to go under…”

    Could this be Sarajevo? I suspect that won’t be good for anyone.

    I don’t think actual global race war will be good for Cyril Ramaphosa, for sure.

    (I was going to offer some suggestions for Mr. Ramaphosa, but I suspect he can come up with some ideas to forestall problems.)

  35. @Tiny Duck
    Typical of white men. If they can't create it they steal or exploit it

    Is this movie so threatening to you that you obsess over it

    No wonder white girls crave Men of Color

    Replies: @newrouter, @Yan Shen, @fish, @interesting, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    So uh the handle Giant Duck is obviously just a play off of your own handle Tiny Duck, I presume? Have all the ducks here at Unz ever met before in person?

    • Replies: @Giant Duck
    @Yan Shen

    Some ducks are bigger than others. It can be understood as follows:

    Giant Duck's impact here in the space of one week > tiny duck's impact here over several years.

    Replies: @Rob Lee

  36. @JollyOldSoul
    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees"

    A mass influx of foreigners could turn the natives into refugees. I'd say that pretty much sums of the (quite valid) concerns of the "alt right."

    Replies: @J.Ross

    I like how she is saying that black people cannot avoid societal collapse, not even in fantasy, not even with magic technology.

  37. Instead of avoiding a cultural phenomenon that conflicts with their ideology, they have sought to subvert and transform it in hopes of recruiting followers and normalizing their views on white supremacy.

    Black Panther is a pretty good example of the inflated self-esteem and unwarranted sense of accomplishment that so many blacks exhibit; that hardly conflicts with alt-right ideology.

    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers.

    Does Mr. Dave have an opinion on angels, and how many of them can dance on the head of a pin?

    • Replies: @Karl
    @Mr. Anon

    34 Mr Anon > a pretty good example of the inflated self-esteem and unwarranted sense of accomplishment


    an actuary once told me: the bigger they are, the harder they fall

  38. Anonymous [AKA "Trannie McFaggot"] says:

    Morris Dees getting MeTooed?

    I’m assuming that you’ve never seen his divorce filings. The man molested his own daughter, and that’s just for starters:

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/files/morris_dees_divorce_papers.pdf

  39. Some dumbass WaPo commenter wrote that Killmonger was the only alt right character in the movie. Even though that character was explicitly interventionist and they call the alt right isolationist. In other words, he doesn’t know what words mean.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Gunner

    "Alt-right" is simply the term they give to things they don't like and refuse to understand.
    They learn to assign meaning to words via the Humpty Dumpty method.

    , @AndrewR
    @Gunner

    Alt-right : progtards :: socialism : conservitards

  40. @J.Ross
    "New think tank studying the alt-right" means "stuff we made up."
    If you tried to convince a Medieval peasant of something (say, the structure of the heavens), you probably wouldn't get very far, but if you want to convince a trendy modern of anything, you just have to attribute it to Russia or the "alt-right."
    That said, they are clumsily reframing very reasonable observations made by many people (most of whom would not consider themselves to be "alt-right"). It was not Richard Spencer who put in the line "refugees bring their own problems." And Black Panther is hardly the first time that family values, religion, sovereignty, patriarchy and child-rearing are okay so long as whites aren't doing them.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    How dare the Evil Ones use our ideas against us?!

  41. @Anonymous

    a profound mischaracterization of the movie’s main themes, according to researchers
     
    Anyone who sees a movie has just as much authority to characterize what it means as anyone else. Everyone's entitled to his opinion.

    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”
     
    I'd say that both do not want to be colonized, reverse colonized in the case of the U.S.

    The two quoted researchers seem to be a hipster black guy and an Indian immigrant woman, although "Kinjal Dave" seems to be the Indian equivilant of "Mary Smith," so an ID is difficult.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    a profound mischaracterization of the movie’s main themes, according to researchers

    Researchers? Do Harvard, Yale and MIT have teams at work analyzing Wakanda now?

    • Replies: @CCZ
    @Anonymous

    Probably!!

    The “analysis” of the esoteric is what academics do and, consequently, “critical theory” is a big subject for “social science” students who will eventually work at Starbucks or, if fortunate, become a “diversity” professional. “Critical theory” is “social theory oriented toward critiquing and changing society as a whole and that provides the descriptive and normative bases for social inquiry aimed at decreasing domination and increasing freedom in all their forms. Critical theory seeks to “liberate human beings from the circumstances that enslave them” (Horkheimer 1982) and transform capitalism into a real democracy.”


    Critical film theory questions the basic premises behind power differentials in class, gender, and race by deconstructing films.  Critical film theorists embrace numerous approaches, including Marxist, feminist, queer, and race.

    Feminist film theory analyzes film through a critical feminist lens.  The critical feminist approach seems little used in world cinema outside the United States.

    Queer film theory challenges socially constructed gender norms and is often—though not always and not exclusively—applied to gay and lesbian filmmakers.
     
    In contrast to its position in American film analysis, critical race theory is virtually nonexistent as a form of criticism of world filmmakers, perhaps because race plays a lesser role in other countries.  The most closely related theoretical concept is postcolonial film theory, a critical theory that explores the legacy of colonialism on the colonized.

    Cultural film theory focuses on how films reflect the culture in which they are made with a goal of understanding how meaning is constructed in a society’s social, historical, political, economic, and religious context.

    Psychoanalytic film theory examines the unconscious of the film’s director, characters, subjects, and sometimes the film’s audience.  Critics tend to apply the work of theorists such as Freud, Jung, and Lacan.

    Source: Association of College & Research Libraries

     

    Any or all of the above available for about $80,000 a year at most major universities and you get to watch movies!
  42. @Anonymous
    And then they came for Richard Meier....

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/13/arts/design/richard-meier-sexual-harassment-allegations.html

    Replies: @Anonymous

  43. @istevefan

    Instead of avoiding a cultural phenomenon that conflicts with their ideology, they have sought to subvert and transform it in hopes of recruiting followers and normalizing their views on white supremacy.
     
    Once again they equate separatism with supremacy. White nationalist doesn't equal white supremacist. It would be like saying the Amish are supremacists when all they want to do is live in their own communities their own way.

    I can't tell if they are just obtuse and don't realize the distinction, or they realize it and have decided to use supremacist anyway for the baggage it carries.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Anonymous, @bomag, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    It would be like saying the Amish are supremacists when all they want to do is live in their own communities their own way.

    Amish? Is that what they’re calling them now?

    /s

  44. @Neuday
    @JimB

    Have you never argued with a woman, bro?

    Replies: @Nico, @AndrewR

    Not a few of us on here would argue that most women should not be in most colleges. (Neither should most men actually, but that’s another problem.)

  45. @syonredux

    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”

     

    Kinjal Dave's CV:

    Kinjal Dave is a Research Assistant at Data & Society supporting the Media Manipulation team and institute-wide copyediting for research outputs. She is committed to understanding the ongoing influence of white supremacy and racial inequality in various U.S. American systems. Her current interests lie at the intersection of transnational feminist epistemology and the rhetoric of whiteness. Previously, her research at Data & Society focused on the influence of data on educational inequity in school choice systems. She holds a BA in Philosophy and Political Science from Villanova University.
     
    https://datasociety.net/people/dave-kinjal/

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The King is A Fink, @Pericles, @peterike, @Buffalo Joe, @Forbes

    supporting the Media Manipulation team

    I wonder if perhaps they need to rethink their labeling … it’s a bit too accurate…

    • LOL: ben tillman
  46. @Gunner
    Some dumbass WaPo commenter wrote that Killmonger was the only alt right character in the movie. Even though that character was explicitly interventionist and they call the alt right isolationist. In other words, he doesn’t know what words mean.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR

    “Alt-right” is simply the term they give to things they don’t like and refuse to understand.
    They learn to assign meaning to words via the Humpty Dumpty method.

  47. Alright my boy made a great but obvious point I somehow missed….the panther is martin and kill monger is Malcolm. ..one peaceful one any means necessary and the martin panther wins in the end….also best line about the movie I’ve heard yet….a black man will go see black panther twice opening week but won’t see his kids in two months…..wakanda man does that?

  48. “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees an underclass,”…

    Das klingt besser, and makes more sense — at least assuming Wakanda is on Earth — because that’s what would happen — but it’s no one’s fault — that’s just ‘the way the genes crumble’.

  49. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    a profound mischaracterization of the movie’s main themes, according to researchers
     
    Researchers? Do Harvard, Yale and MIT have teams at work analyzing Wakanda now?

    Replies: @CCZ

    Probably!!

    The “analysis” of the esoteric is what academics do and, consequently, “critical theory” is a big subject for “social science” students who will eventually work at Starbucks or, if fortunate, become a “diversity” professional. “Critical theory” is “social theory oriented toward critiquing and changing society as a whole and that provides the descriptive and normative bases for social inquiry aimed at decreasing domination and increasing freedom in all their forms. Critical theory seeks to “liberate human beings from the circumstances that enslave them” (Horkheimer 1982) and transform capitalism into a real democracy.”

    Critical film theory questions the basic premises behind power differentials in class, gender, and race by deconstructing films.  Critical film theorists embrace numerous approaches, including Marxist, feminist, queer, and race.

    Feminist film theory analyzes film through a critical feminist lens.  The critical feminist approach seems little used in world cinema outside the United States.

    Queer film theory challenges socially constructed gender norms and is often—though not always and not exclusively—applied to gay and lesbian filmmakers.
     
    In contrast to its position in American film analysis, critical race theory is virtually nonexistent as a form of criticism of world filmmakers, perhaps because race plays a lesser role in other countries.  The most closely related theoretical concept is postcolonial film theory, a critical theory that explores the legacy of colonialism on the colonized.

    Cultural film theory focuses on how films reflect the culture in which they are made with a goal of understanding how meaning is constructed in a society’s social, historical, political, economic, and religious context.

    Psychoanalytic film theory examines the unconscious of the film’s director, characters, subjects, and sometimes the film’s audience.  Critics tend to apply the work of theorists such as Freud, Jung, and Lacan.

    Source: Association of College & Research Libraries

    Any or all of the above available for about $80,000 a year at most major universities and you get to watch movies!

  50. Black Panther was the moderate, sensible and peaceful Donald Trump character versus world revolutionary globalist extremist Black Lives Matter.

    King T’rump was happy to trade and communicate with the rest of the world providing he could put the interests of the Wamerican people first. K’AlGore wanted to invade/invite the world.

    Or that is what anyone can see if they’re not fetishizing skin colour. Bizarre how an explicitly anti-racist organisation is calling the ‘alt right’ racist for not being obsessed with skin colour.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Tyrion 2


    T'rump . . . K'Algore

     

    LOL. What is it with scifi/fantasy writers and apostrophes in their made-up names?
  51. “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”

    In a sense, I have been a refugee, as have my parents and grandparents, fleeing invading groups for safer places to live and raise a family. I am isolationist in part because I don’t want my children and grandchildren to have to flee.

  52. @syonredux

    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”

     

    Kinjal Dave's CV:

    Kinjal Dave is a Research Assistant at Data & Society supporting the Media Manipulation team and institute-wide copyediting for research outputs. She is committed to understanding the ongoing influence of white supremacy and racial inequality in various U.S. American systems. Her current interests lie at the intersection of transnational feminist epistemology and the rhetoric of whiteness. Previously, her research at Data & Society focused on the influence of data on educational inequity in school choice systems. She holds a BA in Philosophy and Political Science from Villanova University.
     
    https://datasociety.net/people/dave-kinjal/

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The King is A Fink, @Pericles, @peterike, @Buffalo Joe, @Forbes

    There I was thinking she would be a data scientist specialising in sentiment analysis. What has a BA in Bolloxology got to do with data, I wonder?

  53. @Harry Baldwin
    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”

    So what's the problem? Let's let both parties have what they want.

    Replies: @Pericles, @ben tillman, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @res

    • LOL: BB753
  54. @syonredux

    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”

     

    Kinjal Dave's CV:

    Kinjal Dave is a Research Assistant at Data & Society supporting the Media Manipulation team and institute-wide copyediting for research outputs. She is committed to understanding the ongoing influence of white supremacy and racial inequality in various U.S. American systems. Her current interests lie at the intersection of transnational feminist epistemology and the rhetoric of whiteness. Previously, her research at Data & Society focused on the influence of data on educational inequity in school choice systems. She holds a BA in Philosophy and Political Science from Villanova University.
     
    https://datasociety.net/people/dave-kinjal/

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The King is A Fink, @Pericles, @peterike, @Buffalo Joe, @Forbes

    Easiest summarized as

    Her current interests: lie

  55. Whenever the Left uses the word “data” replace it with “morality” and you get a much more accurate sense of what they are saying. Similarly, “researchers” can be replaces by “clerics” and you get more clarity. It’s also a useful way to avoid falling down the Boomer hole by thinking there is a way to reason with the Left.

  56. Hello to the researchers at Data & Society! We hope you are enjoying our comments. How do you like working for Big Brother?

    • LOL: bomag, Buffalo Joe
  57. One must presume that Wakanda is the logical outcome of Prince Akeem’s reforms in the kingdom of Zamunda. Surely, the notion of a peaceful, advanced African kingdom with enlightened black rulers has made a difference in the lives of blacks 30 years since it’s inception.

  58. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept become refugees.”

    There fixed it for him/zer/her.

    BTW, how do you study that which is being repressed with almost Chinese-like powers unless you are part of the cabal doing the repressing?

  59. @Hubbub
    Goodness Gracious! All this hubbub over such flatulent fantasy-mongering. Writing, talking, preaching, praying about Wakanda will not make it real, except in the most deluded of minds. If Africa had not been colonized it would be the same as it was three centuries ago - and is in many parts of the continent today - a genuine sh*thole.

    Replies: @tyrone

    RIGHT, it’s a lot of bulls**t ,by the way south africa is in the process of expropriating their “vibranium”,somebody in OZ grew a brain and decided to get it for free!

  60. @Tiny Duck
    Typical of white men. If they can't create it they steal or exploit it

    Is this movie so threatening to you that you obsess over it

    No wonder white girls crave Men of Color

    Replies: @newrouter, @Yan Shen, @fish, @interesting, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    Oh Tinys…..you bein as smug as a oberprotektiv gurlfrend ob dat moovy you’n make me sit tru 18 tymzes.

    Lender “He be wearin ribbed fo Ttinys pleshur” Pitttz

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @fish

    ROTFL. I can always count on you for a good laugh!

    , @Anonymous
    @fish

    Oh thank god you're back. The place isn't the same without you.

    , @Clyde
    @fish

    "ribbed" - lulz and score!

  61. @Hippopotamusdrome

    Wakanda makes me think of this song (starting at 0:31). Or maybe he’s saying “Oaxaca”.

  62. @Harry Baldwin
    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”

    So what's the problem? Let's let both parties have what they want.

    Replies: @Pericles, @ben tillman, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @res

    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”

    As if there were a difference.

  63. The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees

    The truth is we are far-right isolationists because we *also* do not want to become refugees.

    Because when there are enough of ’em…refugees, plus their relatives brought in through chain-migration, plus their spawn dropped here, they’re gonna start ethnically cleansing *us* and *we* will be refugees fleeing for our lives.

    But to where? Where is there even anywhere left to flee *to*?

  64. @JimB
    When will the loopy left learn Argument 101? The alt-right interpretation of Black Panther is convincingly argued in Breitbart from the actual plot points of the movie. This refutation isn’t a refutation. It’s saying in way too many words, “No, uh uh!” If lefties refuse to engage in dispute, making and supporting counterclaims with evidence, warrants, and backing they risk looking like retards who deserve a full refund for thrir college educations.

    Replies: @Neuday, @ben tillman

    Genuine argument isn’t necessary as long as the other side isn’t allowed to speak.

  65. @syonredux

    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”

     

    Kinjal Dave's CV:

    Kinjal Dave is a Research Assistant at Data & Society supporting the Media Manipulation team and institute-wide copyediting for research outputs. She is committed to understanding the ongoing influence of white supremacy and racial inequality in various U.S. American systems. Her current interests lie at the intersection of transnational feminist epistemology and the rhetoric of whiteness. Previously, her research at Data & Society focused on the influence of data on educational inequity in school choice systems. She holds a BA in Philosophy and Political Science from Villanova University.
     
    https://datasociety.net/people/dave-kinjal/

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The King is A Fink, @Pericles, @peterike, @Buffalo Joe, @Forbes

    Kinjal Dave is a Research Assistant at Data & Society supporting the Media Manipulation team and institute-wide copyediting for research outputs. She is committed to understanding the ongoing influence of white supremacy and racial inequality in various U.S. American systems.

    Peterike’s Law in action!!

    She looks kinda whiteish though. I wonder if she’s mixed.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @peterike

    I don't know if she's mixed, but she is confused...

  66. @Yan Shen
    @Tiny Duck

    So uh the handle Giant Duck is obviously just a play off of your own handle Tiny Duck, I presume? Have all the ducks here at Unz ever met before in person?

    Replies: @Giant Duck

    Some ducks are bigger than others. It can be understood as follows:

    Giant Duck’s impact here in the space of one week > tiny duck’s impact here over several years.

    • Replies: @Rob Lee
    @Giant Duck

    I would very much appreciate it if you lot wouldn't be too hard on Tiny Duck! I very much enjoy his attempts at posting successive strings of words.

    Do you not understand how difficult it is for him to type while his mother is simultaneously wiping his chin, ass and keyboard?

    Have some, SOME semblance of pity for the slowest among us...

    Some days, I actually think he's the most ingenious purveyor of sarcasm behind a keyboard. After all, he CAN'T mean any of the inane things he writes... And for those of you who get pulled in to responding to him, shame on you! I've always thought Steve's commenters were a magnitude or more smarter than those found on other sites, but you most certainly call that into doubt when you fence with Tiny Dick!

  67. Here is an another short, politically incorrect interpretation of the “World of Wakanda” for Data & Society to analyze and denounce.

  68. @Neuday
    @JimB

    Have you never argued with a woman, bro?

    Replies: @Nico, @AndrewR

    If the left ain’t happy, ain’t no one happy.

  69. @istevefan

    Instead of avoiding a cultural phenomenon that conflicts with their ideology, they have sought to subvert and transform it in hopes of recruiting followers and normalizing their views on white supremacy.
     
    Once again they equate separatism with supremacy. White nationalist doesn't equal white supremacist. It would be like saying the Amish are supremacists when all they want to do is live in their own communities their own way.

    I can't tell if they are just obtuse and don't realize the distinction, or they realize it and have decided to use supremacist anyway for the baggage it carries.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Anonymous, @bomag, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    I can’t tell if they are just obtuse and don’t realize the distinction, or they realize it and have decided to use supremacist anyway for the baggage it carries.

    They are trained to negatively salivate when “white” is put in front of anything. All terms are interchangeable.

  70. @Gunner
    Some dumbass WaPo commenter wrote that Killmonger was the only alt right character in the movie. Even though that character was explicitly interventionist and they call the alt right isolationist. In other words, he doesn’t know what words mean.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR

    Alt-right : progtards :: socialism : conservitards

  71. @Mr. Anon

    Instead of avoiding a cultural phenomenon that conflicts with their ideology, they have sought to subvert and transform it in hopes of recruiting followers and normalizing their views on white supremacy.
     
    Black Panther is a pretty good example of the inflated self-esteem and unwarranted sense of accomplishment that so many blacks exhibit; that hardly conflicts with alt-right ideology.

    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers.
     
    Does Mr. Dave have an opinion on angels, and how many of them can dance on the head of a pin?

    Replies: @Karl

    34 Mr Anon > a pretty good example of the inflated self-esteem and unwarranted sense of accomplishment

    an actuary once told me: the bigger they are, the harder they fall

  72. @Anon
    South Africa is about to go under, but the national discourse is about Wakanda.

    What kind of Peter Pan dumbass world are we living in? It's like Ceausescu propaganda about how Romania is a land of freedom, liberty, equality, and wonders. Ceausescu bought into his own myth and was shocked when the people said NO. But at least there really is a Romania.

    But Wakanda? A comic book wonderland? This is what the elites are discussing as something of great significance and importance? What is this, the new El Dorado?

    And I haven't seen it, but how does the movie end?

    Negroes in Wakanda are gonna share vibranium or some technology to save Negroes and humanity all over the world? These blacks who are total leeches upon humanity are made to fantasize about giving to the rest of the world?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @bomag, @Buffalo Joe

    The general problem is that today’s political discourse assumes that utopia automatically backfills the world when you take away negative historical events.

    Thus utopia exists in Africa sans the slave trade, colonialism, etc.

    Blacks in America would enjoy hyper-utopia sans slavery, Jim Crow, discrimination, etc.

    That some of this is path independent never seems to be considered.

  73. a profound mischaracterization of the movie’s main themes, according to researchers at Data & Society, a New York-based think tank that studied far-right online conversation about the film.

    Wait, I can get paid to do this?!

    Clearly, we have abolished Scarcity.

  74. Steve, how does it feel to be in their cross-hairs?

    Now, if only there were a Rip Van Winkle potion that would permit us to hibernate through this dreary historical period where a people at peace go to war with one another.

    OT: last night we saw the first hour of David Lean/Noel Coward’s flic This Happy Breed. A military parade after WW I shows British troops in khaki, French troops in horizon blue, American troops identifiable by the chevrons on their sleeves, marching in a victory parade, in Technicolor, to celebrate the winning of a 4 year war that the Germans came close to winning. Fast forward 100 years. Trump has ordered up a military parade for Memorial Day after no victory and ongoing interminable operations in worthless faraway lands.

  75. @Harry Baldwin
    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”

    So what's the problem? Let's let both parties have what they want.

    Replies: @Pericles, @ben tillman, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @res

    So what’s the problem?

    It would disrupt the diversity scam that is required by the Left to implement 1984. But of course you knew that.

  76. @syonredux
    @Steve Sailer


    Did the comic book writers project Zionism onto Africa?

    Both guys who bought Marvel in the 1990s are veterans of the Six Days War.

     

    Maybe by looking to African examples for Wakanda (Ethiopia, Lesotho, Swaziland, etc), we've been looking at the wrong continent....

    Maybe Israel is the correct model: ethnocentric, strong borders, more technologically advanced than its neighbors, .....

    ....And then there's the business with Wakanda possessing an uber-competent intelligence service...an intelligence service that has deep-cover operatives stationed in foreign countries....operatives who can successfully pass as natives of the countries where they are stationed....

    Replies: @International Jew, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Maybe Israel is the correct model: ethnocentric, strong borders, more technologically advanced than its neighbors,

    Maybe you are onto something! The problem is there is no way to unring the bell. And while I get why some Americans dislike or hate Jews in America, I don’t understand why the same people don’t love Israel.

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Well, it's complicated. Or not. Ya see, all of those stay-behind brethren and sistren of the Jewish persuasion here in the US seem to be dedicated to advocating for the exact opposite social situation here.

    Diversity is our strength, non-existent borders (although quite happy to exploit the advanced technology here to push the first two items on the list), the non-centrality of the family to the preservation of culture and national feelings, the encouragement of conflict between residents of the US, hostility to the largely Christian and Western European background of our culture and nation... Well, the list just goes on and on. It's almost like they're some sort of Operation Gladio directed toward subverting the culture and nation in every way possible. And then, they want us to underwrite the shitty little country to the tune of billions every damn year (some substantial proportion of which is undoubtedly earmarked for suborning our politicians [who vote for the money in the first place, naturally] to make it a criminal offense to criticize Israel, among other actions like getting espionage cases dismissed or convicted traitors like Pollack released.

    So not so hard to understand after all, eh, Charles.

    Replies: @Krastos the Gluemaker, @Charles Erwin Wilson

  77. “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”

    A fine talking point for addressing the Pied Noir in France and former land owners from Zimbabwe. Why not be straight and just admit that Black Nationalism doesn’t threaten the power structure but White Nationalism does? Black Nationalism is like Detroit, Black territory paid for with White tax money and smarmy lectures on White Guilt. White Nationalism is the end of the liberal order, because White territory would not need racial subsidies, and all the POC would be up the creek.

    • Agree: fish
    • Replies: @Tulip
    @Tulip

    Which is why I oppose White Nationalism, because I am so full of compassion and empathy for others.

    Replies: @Forbes

  78. @International Jew
    @CCZ

    That water park better invest in some serious security now.

    Replies: @Steve in Greensboro

    Or at least set up a Popeye’s Fried Chicken store across the street.

  79. @Tulip
    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”

    A fine talking point for addressing the Pied Noir in France and former land owners from Zimbabwe. Why not be straight and just admit that Black Nationalism doesn't threaten the power structure but White Nationalism does? Black Nationalism is like Detroit, Black territory paid for with White tax money and smarmy lectures on White Guilt. White Nationalism is the end of the liberal order, because White territory would not need racial subsidies, and all the POC would be up the creek.

    Replies: @Tulip

    Which is why I oppose White Nationalism, because I am so full of compassion and empathy for others.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Tulip

    Duly noted. ;-)

  80. I am totally amazed how these cultural types can mass produce a movie exalting tribalism, isolationism, monarchy, and traditionalism and not expect someone to universalize it beyond the Black context.

    Granted, D’Challa ends promoting what seems to be some version of the Vibranium Marshall Plan, but so what.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Tulip

    Thete is no contextualization at all in the leftoid cult. That's also why their arguments are overwhelmingly from authority. Thinking for yourself is dangerous, receiving from source is safe.

  81. @Harry Baldwin
    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”

    So what's the problem? Let's let both parties have what they want.

    Replies: @Pericles, @ben tillman, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @res

    So what’s the problem? Let’s let both parties have what they want.

    The problem is they don’t really want isolationism. They want “What is ours is ours and what is yours is also ours.”

  82. Look, whiteness is an existential threat:

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10632

    “She argues that whiteness poses an existential threat to social, political, and economic life in the U.S. and proposes that decentering whiteness is one of the most urgent social dilemmas of our time and demands our immediate attention,”

    Imagine what would happen if whites started behaving and voting in an ethnocentric fashion?

    It would be worse than Dad taking away the credit card and writing you out of the Trust fund.

    And what would all these POC who make a living lecturing white people about how they are evil do for work?

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @Tulip

    I hear there's a brisk trade in holding cardboard signs at highway exits and city intersections.

  83. @fish
    @Tiny Duck

    Oh Tinys.....you bein as smug as a oberprotektiv gurlfrend ob dat moovy you’n make me sit tru 18 tymzes.

    Lender “He be wearin ribbed fo Ttinys pleshur” Pitttz

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Anonymous, @Clyde

    ROTFL. I can always count on you for a good laugh!

  84. … meanwhile down in the Caribbean, it took longer than usual after independence but — at last, BARBADOS has managed it :

    The American, Canadian and British foreign offices have put up advisory health warnings for tourists going to Barbados.

    ‘’’’ Barbados stinks.
    It really does. A foul effluvium bubbles up from the manhole covers and rainwater drains in the streets, pours into the roads and pavements, and out on to the island’s pristine beaches 24 hours a day. Red flags along the white sands tell us it is unsafe to swim.
    The smell of human excrement is sometimes unbearable ‘’’’’ – Telegraph 15/03/2018

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @fitzGetty

    It used to be the refinery northwest of Bridgetown that stunk.

  85. Wakandans are anti-immigration because they don’t want to become refugees (presumably because of displacement?). Europeans are anti-immigration because we don’t want to admit refugees… who will later cause our children to become refugees. I must just be too dumb to appreciate this subtle difference.

  86. @istevefan

    Instead of avoiding a cultural phenomenon that conflicts with their ideology, they have sought to subvert and transform it in hopes of recruiting followers and normalizing their views on white supremacy.
     
    Once again they equate separatism with supremacy. White nationalist doesn't equal white supremacist. It would be like saying the Amish are supremacists when all they want to do is live in their own communities their own way.

    I can't tell if they are just obtuse and don't realize the distinction, or they realize it and have decided to use supremacist anyway for the baggage it carries.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Anonymous, @bomag, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Instead of avoiding a cultural phenomenon that conflicts with their ideology, they have sought to subvert and transform it in hopes of recruiting followers and normalizing their views on white supremacy.

    Once again they equate separatism with supremacy. White nationalist doesn’t equal white supremacist. It would be like saying the Amish are supremacists when all they want to do is live in their own communities their own way.

    I can’t tell if they are just obtuse and don’t realize the distinction, or they realize it and have decided to use supremacist anyway for the baggage it carries.

    Well, explaining it as “white people wanting to live in overwhelmingly white places with other white people and the culture that this produces” sounds too much like what left wingers actually do in practice, and sounds like something reasonable to which downscale whites might aspire.

    You can only be a guiltless white separatist if you make enough to afford to live in, say, Princeton, New Jersey. And in that case it’s called “good schools.”

  87. @Tulip
    Look, whiteness is an existential threat:

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10632

    “She argues that whiteness poses an existential threat to social, political, and economic life in the U.S. and proposes that decentering whiteness is one of the most urgent social dilemmas of our time and demands our immediate attention,”

    Imagine what would happen if whites started behaving and voting in an ethnocentric fashion?

    It would be worse than Dad taking away the credit card and writing you out of the Trust fund.

    And what would all these POC who make a living lecturing white people about how they are evil do for work?

    Replies: @BenKenobi

    I hear there’s a brisk trade in holding cardboard signs at highway exits and city intersections.

  88. @Tulip
    I am totally amazed how these cultural types can mass produce a movie exalting tribalism, isolationism, monarchy, and traditionalism and not expect someone to universalize it beyond the Black context.

    Granted, D'Challa ends promoting what seems to be some version of the Vibranium Marshall Plan, but so what.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Thete is no contextualization at all in the leftoid cult. That’s also why their arguments are overwhelmingly from authority. Thinking for yourself is dangerous, receiving from source is safe.

  89. In a Miami suburb, a brand-new pedestrian bridge, still under construction but nearing completion, collapsed onto a major thoroughfare:
    https://wsvn.com/news/local/fiu-pedestrian-bridge-collapses-onto-sw-8th-street/

    The bridge was being built with a “new and improved” technique, presumably *not* developed in Wakanda.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Stan Adams

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/03/hultgreen-curie-architecture-edition.html

    Replies: @CCZ

  90. @Tiny Duck
    Typical of white men. If they can't create it they steal or exploit it

    Is this movie so threatening to you that you obsess over it

    No wonder white girls crave Men of Color

    Replies: @newrouter, @Yan Shen, @fish, @interesting, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    LOL….to fucking funny…….I was reading this troll and thought this sounds like that idiot tiny what ever the fuck his name is and then I happened to look at who authored this nonsense and sure enough it was you.

    trolls like this are easy to spot………LoL, and you can have’m. keep’m coming dude, I like a good laugh as much as anyone.

  91. @Tiny Duck
    Typical of white men. If they can't create it they steal or exploit it

    Is this movie so threatening to you that you obsess over it

    No wonder white girls crave Men of Color

    Replies: @newrouter, @Yan Shen, @fish, @interesting, @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    “No wonder white girls crave Men of Color”

    I told you once, Tiny Dick, and I’ll tell you again – mudsharking is pretty much a fatties-only endeavor.

  92. @Giant Duck
    @Yan Shen

    Some ducks are bigger than others. It can be understood as follows:

    Giant Duck's impact here in the space of one week > tiny duck's impact here over several years.

    Replies: @Rob Lee

    I would very much appreciate it if you lot wouldn’t be too hard on Tiny Duck! I very much enjoy his attempts at posting successive strings of words.

    Do you not understand how difficult it is for him to type while his mother is simultaneously wiping his chin, ass and keyboard?

    Have some, SOME semblance of pity for the slowest among us…

    Some days, I actually think he’s the most ingenious purveyor of sarcasm behind a keyboard. After all, he CAN’T mean any of the inane things he writes… And for those of you who get pulled in to responding to him, shame on you! I’ve always thought Steve’s commenters were a magnitude or more smarter than those found on other sites, but you most certainly call that into doubt when you fence with Tiny Dick!

  93. @Anon
    South Africa is about to go under, but the national discourse is about Wakanda.

    What kind of Peter Pan dumbass world are we living in? It's like Ceausescu propaganda about how Romania is a land of freedom, liberty, equality, and wonders. Ceausescu bought into his own myth and was shocked when the people said NO. But at least there really is a Romania.

    But Wakanda? A comic book wonderland? This is what the elites are discussing as something of great significance and importance? What is this, the new El Dorado?

    And I haven't seen it, but how does the movie end?

    Negroes in Wakanda are gonna share vibranium or some technology to save Negroes and humanity all over the world? These blacks who are total leeches upon humanity are made to fantasize about giving to the rest of the world?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @bomag, @Buffalo Joe

    Anon, Simple question for the elites…”Why doesn’t a Wakanda actually exist?” And I don’t want to hear that the Colonists stole all the good stuff.

  94. @syonredux

    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”

     

    Kinjal Dave's CV:

    Kinjal Dave is a Research Assistant at Data & Society supporting the Media Manipulation team and institute-wide copyediting for research outputs. She is committed to understanding the ongoing influence of white supremacy and racial inequality in various U.S. American systems. Her current interests lie at the intersection of transnational feminist epistemology and the rhetoric of whiteness. Previously, her research at Data & Society focused on the influence of data on educational inequity in school choice systems. She holds a BA in Philosophy and Political Science from Villanova University.
     
    https://datasociety.net/people/dave-kinjal/

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The King is A Fink, @Pericles, @peterike, @Buffalo Joe, @Forbes

    syon, You know some one over there was just dying to use “intersection of transnational feminist epistemology” all in one sentence. The phrase ” rhetoric of whiteness” is the cherry on top of the whipped cream.

  95. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @syonredux


    Maybe Israel is the correct model: ethnocentric, strong borders, more technologically advanced than its neighbors,
     
    Maybe you are onto something! The problem is there is no way to unring the bell. And while I get why some Americans dislike or hate Jews in America, I don't understand why the same people don't love Israel.

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian

    Well, it’s complicated. Or not. Ya see, all of those stay-behind brethren and sistren of the Jewish persuasion here in the US seem to be dedicated to advocating for the exact opposite social situation here.

    Diversity is our strength, non-existent borders (although quite happy to exploit the advanced technology here to push the first two items on the list), the non-centrality of the family to the preservation of culture and national feelings, the encouragement of conflict between residents of the US, hostility to the largely Christian and Western European background of our culture and nation… Well, the list just goes on and on. It’s almost like they’re some sort of Operation Gladio directed toward subverting the culture and nation in every way possible. And then, they want us to underwrite the shitty little country to the tune of billions every damn year (some substantial proportion of which is undoubtedly earmarked for suborning our politicians [who vote for the money in the first place, naturally] to make it a criminal offense to criticize Israel, among other actions like getting espionage cases dismissed or convicted traitors like Pollack released.

    So not so hard to understand after all, eh, Charles.

    • Replies: @Krastos the Gluemaker
    @JerseyJeffersonian

    Jackson Pollock was an eccentric artist, Jonathan Pollard a traitorous spy.

    Most interesting duckposting of the day though, how that came to be.

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @JerseyJeffersonian

    Thanks for emphasizing the point. Your criticisms are directed toward American Jews. But Israel is implementing at least some of the policies that either you, or I, or both of us would like to see implemented here. So why the animosity toward Israel? They do what we want to do.

    When I read you post, I wondered, did you read what I wrote?

  96. When will the loopy left learn Argument 101? The alt-right interpretation of Black Panther is convincingly argued in Breitbart from the actual plot points of the movie. This refutation isn’t a refutation. It’s saying in way too many words, “No, uh uh!” If lefties refuse to engage in dispute, making and supporting counterclaims with evidence, warrants, and backing they risk looking like retards who deserve a full refund for thrir college educations.

    If you were running the country but lost every argument, you’d find alternatives to argument, too.

  97. I propose handing Baltimore over to African Americans. Give them the whole nine yard, government, schools, police etc. They can call it Wakanda if they chose. Make the whites want to move out. Let’s see the utopia they build. Wait, I think they already have all that.

    • Replies: @CCZ
    @Buffalo Joe

    The REAL Wakanda: “Fake processed food is becoming an epidemic in African urban life.”


    In Nigeria there is milk powder with no animal protein. In Kenya there is vegetable oil made of recycled oil unfit for human consumption. In Ghana, the palm oil is laced with a food coloring called Sudan IV which is widely recognized as a carcinogen. In Uganda, formalin, an embalming agent, is used to keep meat and fish free from flies and seemingly fresh for days. Across Africa, there are incidences of plastic rice or nothing more than discarded rice chaff, packaged as high-grade rice, and corn powder dyed with Sudan IV, labeled as chili pepper.

    Given that most of the counterfeit products in Africa are staples consumed to fulfill daily dietary needs, they are likely contributing to the rising levels of malnutrition and cancer on the continent. When parents living on just dollars a day believe they are buying their children milk, and that milk has no animal protein, the impacts on child development can be devastating. Indeed, there is no way to know to what extent food fraud is contributing to stunting, which affects 34% of under five-year old African children, with lifelong impacts on physical and intellectual development.

    https://qz.com/1226112/fake-food-or-fraud-food-in-nigeria-kenya-and-other-african-countries/
     
    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Buffalo Joe

    One of the last white areas in Baltimore has hired private security.

    https://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2018/03/in-federal-hill-one-of-whitest.html

  98. @Buffalo Joe
    I propose handing Baltimore over to African Americans. Give them the whole nine yard, government, schools, police etc. They can call it Wakanda if they chose. Make the whites want to move out. Let's see the utopia they build. Wait, I think they already have all that.

    Replies: @CCZ, @Jim Don Bob

    The REAL Wakanda: “Fake processed food is becoming an epidemic in African urban life.”

    In Nigeria there is milk powder with no animal protein. In Kenya there is vegetable oil made of recycled oil unfit for human consumption. In Ghana, the palm oil is laced with a food coloring called Sudan IV which is widely recognized as a carcinogen. In Uganda, formalin, an embalming agent, is used to keep meat and fish free from flies and seemingly fresh for days. Across Africa, there are incidences of plastic rice or nothing more than discarded rice chaff, packaged as high-grade rice, and corn powder dyed with Sudan IV, labeled as chili pepper.

    Given that most of the counterfeit products in Africa are staples consumed to fulfill daily dietary needs, they are likely contributing to the rising levels of malnutrition and cancer on the continent. When parents living on just dollars a day believe they are buying their children milk, and that milk has no animal protein, the impacts on child development can be devastating. Indeed, there is no way to know to what extent food fraud is contributing to stunting, which affects 34% of under five-year old African children, with lifelong impacts on physical and intellectual development.

    https://qz.com/1226112/fake-food-or-fraud-food-in-nigeria-kenya-and-other-african-countries/

  99. @Buffalo Joe
    I propose handing Baltimore over to African Americans. Give them the whole nine yard, government, schools, police etc. They can call it Wakanda if they chose. Make the whites want to move out. Let's see the utopia they build. Wait, I think they already have all that.

    Replies: @CCZ, @Jim Don Bob

    One of the last white areas in Baltimore has hired private security.

    https://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2018/03/in-federal-hill-one-of-whitest.html

  100. Another poster has already made the same point, but it bears repeating. The reason blacks are allowed to promote black interests and want or at least claim to want a black ethnostate, but that whites are not granted the same right, is that everyone knows black separation will never happen since blacks will always depend on whites for their welfare, whereas whites will thrive once freed from having to support the black underclass.
    Its exactly the same with that bloke made famous on youtube a few years back who said he wanted to exterminate white people. he got away with saying that since no-one took him seriously since everyone knows that blacks haven’t the competence to exetrminate anything, whereas if a white person had said the same the sky would have fallen in on him or her since everyone knows that white people are capable of doing such a thing if they are minded to.

  101. @JerseyJeffersonian
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Well, it's complicated. Or not. Ya see, all of those stay-behind brethren and sistren of the Jewish persuasion here in the US seem to be dedicated to advocating for the exact opposite social situation here.

    Diversity is our strength, non-existent borders (although quite happy to exploit the advanced technology here to push the first two items on the list), the non-centrality of the family to the preservation of culture and national feelings, the encouragement of conflict between residents of the US, hostility to the largely Christian and Western European background of our culture and nation... Well, the list just goes on and on. It's almost like they're some sort of Operation Gladio directed toward subverting the culture and nation in every way possible. And then, they want us to underwrite the shitty little country to the tune of billions every damn year (some substantial proportion of which is undoubtedly earmarked for suborning our politicians [who vote for the money in the first place, naturally] to make it a criminal offense to criticize Israel, among other actions like getting espionage cases dismissed or convicted traitors like Pollack released.

    So not so hard to understand after all, eh, Charles.

    Replies: @Krastos the Gluemaker, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Jackson Pollock was an eccentric artist, Jonathan Pollard a traitorous spy.

    Most interesting duckposting of the day though, how that came to be.

  102. @fish
    @Tiny Duck

    Oh Tinys.....you bein as smug as a oberprotektiv gurlfrend ob dat moovy you’n make me sit tru 18 tymzes.

    Lender “He be wearin ribbed fo Ttinys pleshur” Pitttz

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Anonymous, @Clyde

    Oh thank god you’re back. The place isn’t the same without you.

  103. @fish
    @Tiny Duck

    Oh Tinys.....you bein as smug as a oberprotektiv gurlfrend ob dat moovy you’n make me sit tru 18 tymzes.

    Lender “He be wearin ribbed fo Ttinys pleshur” Pitttz

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Anonymous, @Clyde

    “ribbed” – lulz and score!

  104. @syonredux

    “Wakandans are isolationist because they don’t want to become refugees,” said Kinjal Dave, one of the Data & Society researchers. “The far-right is isolationist because they don’t want to accept refugees.”

     

    Kinjal Dave's CV:

    Kinjal Dave is a Research Assistant at Data & Society supporting the Media Manipulation team and institute-wide copyediting for research outputs. She is committed to understanding the ongoing influence of white supremacy and racial inequality in various U.S. American systems. Her current interests lie at the intersection of transnational feminist epistemology and the rhetoric of whiteness. Previously, her research at Data & Society focused on the influence of data on educational inequity in school choice systems. She holds a BA in Philosophy and Political Science from Villanova University.
     
    https://datasociety.net/people/dave-kinjal/

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The King is A Fink, @Pericles, @peterike, @Buffalo Joe, @Forbes

    The datasociety.net web site is a hoot. Looks like it was started by Microsoft, it has a sprinkling of MS people on a very large board, with a boatload of social science and ‘communication’ people.

    It looks like they want to be a gatekeeper for propaganda churned out by the left. By physiognomy, it look like a LGBTQWERTY convention. But looks can be deceiving…

  105. @peterike
    @syonredux


    Kinjal Dave is a Research Assistant at Data & Society supporting the Media Manipulation team and institute-wide copyediting for research outputs. She is committed to understanding the ongoing influence of white supremacy and racial inequality in various U.S. American systems.
     
    Peterike's Law in action!!

    She looks kinda whiteish though. I wonder if she's mixed.

    Replies: @Forbes

    I don’t know if she’s mixed, but she is confused…

  106. @CCZ
    OT: Unlike Ismael in Berkeley, "Clock Boy" will not have a windfall. I guess he will need to find another source of funds for his advanced technology research and development, which might have been the foundation of a Sudanese "Wakanda" and won the Sudanese presidential election for his Sudan born father.

    'Clock Boy' Ahmed Mohamed's Lawsuit Against Irving ISD, City Dismissed
    Dallas News, March 14, Updated at 7:30 PM

    "A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit filed against Irving ISD, the City of Irving and several individuals by the father of a teen who was arrested after bringing to school a homemade clock that was mistaken for a bomb."

    Replies: @Clyde

    ‘Clock Boy’ Ahmed Mohamed’s Lawsuit Against Irving ISD, City Dismissed
    Dallas News, March 14, Updated at 7:30 PM
    “A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit filed against Irving ISD, the City of Irving and several individuals by the father of a teen who was arrested after bringing to school a homemade clock that was mistaken for a bomb.”

    Real justice means the judge will order clock boy’s family to pay the lawyers bills (fees) for the Irving school district and other entities these publicity hounds sued.

  107. @Tulip
    @Tulip

    Which is why I oppose White Nationalism, because I am so full of compassion and empathy for others.

    Replies: @Forbes

    Duly noted. 😉

  108. @fitzGetty
    ... meanwhile down in the Caribbean, it took longer than usual after independence but — at last, BARBADOS has managed it :

    The American, Canadian and British foreign offices have put up advisory health warnings for tourists going to Barbados.

    ‘’’’ Barbados stinks.
    It really does. A foul effluvium bubbles up from the manhole covers and rainwater drains in the streets, pours into the roads and pavements, and out on to the island’s pristine beaches 24 hours a day. Red flags along the white sands tell us it is unsafe to swim.
    The smell of human excrement is sometimes unbearable ‘’’’’ - Telegraph 15/03/2018

    Replies: @Forbes

    It used to be the refinery northwest of Bridgetown that stunk.

  109. @Tyrion 2
    Black Panther was the moderate, sensible and peaceful Donald Trump character versus world revolutionary globalist extremist Black Lives Matter.

    King T'rump was happy to trade and communicate with the rest of the world providing he could put the interests of the Wamerican people first. K'AlGore wanted to invade/invite the world.

    Or that is what anyone can see if they're not fetishizing skin colour. Bizarre how an explicitly anti-racist organisation is calling the 'alt right' racist for not being obsessed with skin colour.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    T’rump . . . K’Algore

    LOL. What is it with scifi/fantasy writers and apostrophes in their made-up names?

  110. It’s true, pro-whites actually do this. They really do point out how they want for Whites what Jews get for Jews in Israel, Blacks get for Blacks in Liberia and Wakanda, Japanese get for Japanese in Japan, that there are obvious anti-White double-standards in play, etc.

    Shocking.

    Another poster has already made the same point, but it bears repeating. The reason blacks are allowed to promote black interests and want or at least claim to want a black ethnostate, but that whites are not granted the same right, is that everyone knows black separation will never happen since blacks will always depend on whites for their welfare, whereas whites will thrive once freed from having to support the black underclass.
    Its exactly the same with that bloke made famous on youtube a few years back who said he wanted to exterminate white people. he got away with saying that since no-one took him seriously since everyone knows that blacks haven’t the competence to exetrminate anything, whereas if a white person had said the same the sky would have fallen in on him or her since everyone knows that white people are capable of doing such a thing if they are minded to.

    So, Jews aren’t White? Cuz Jewish Nationalism and Jewish ethnostates and Jewish separation and Jews promoting Jewish interests seem to be a great way to get invited to dinner at Che Whitey. The entire US establishment approves, under pain of political death.

    It’s a real mystery wrapped inside an enigma.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Svigor


    So, Jews aren’t White?
     
    The Arabs say they are. They also claim Jews are European. Which is the opposite of what many here say.

    But the Arabs are neither.
  111. : The reason that White nationalists–or at least a large part of them–are considered to be White supremacists is because they celebrate the Confederacy. The Confederacy wasn’t about creating a White ethno-state, but rather about allowing Whites to continue ruling over and enslaving Blacks.

    Also, it doesn’t help that a large part of the alt-right also celebrates Nazi Germany. I mean, even if one only cared about White lives, Nazi Germany caused the deaths of tens of millions of White people (primarily in the Soviet Union). Plus, even if the Nazis would have won the war, not all White people would have been welcome in Nazi-occupied Europe. Indeed, as far as I know, at least several dozen million Soviet White people would have been deported east of the Urals in a Nazi victory scenario.

  112. but if, say, Morris Dees of the SPLC gets #MeTooed

    I can easily imagine Morris saying “Pound Me, Too!”

  113. @Stan Adams
    In a Miami suburb, a brand-new pedestrian bridge, still under construction but nearing completion, collapsed onto a major thoroughfare:
    https://wsvn.com/news/local/fiu-pedestrian-bridge-collapses-onto-sw-8th-street/

    The bridge was being built with a “new and improved” technique, presumably *not* developed in Wakanda.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    • Replies: @CCZ
    @MEH 0910

    I offer this information with no intent to imply responsibility to any person or persons, but only to clarify available facts.

    The referenced article used the phrase "female engineer/project executive." The person cited does not appear to be a licensed professional engineer (PE), but rather a senior "Project Executive" with a Bachelor of Science degree in Construction Management, as described below from LinkedIn and the FIU Construction Management Program description.

    Project Executive
    MCM | Munilla Construction Management
    Oversee the K-12 and Higher Educational Facility projects from pursuit through completion.
    Florida International University, Bachelor in Science, Construction Management

    Construction Management, BACHELOR OF SCIENCE
    FIU College of Engineering and Computing
    Program Description
    The undergraduate program in Construction Management is nationally accredited by the American Council for Construction Education. Its goal is to provide students with the knowledge and skills required for entry level supervisory or managerial positions in the construction industry. Graduates usually find employment as project managers, project schedulers, cost estimators, quality controllers or in managing their own construction firms. Opportunities for employment or advancement exist in all areas of the construction industry including land development, home building, public building, industrialized building systems, commercial, industrial, marine and highway heavy construction, underwater and space age facilities, material and equipment sales and installations, and construction product research, development and sales.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

  114. @Svigor
    It's true, pro-whites actually do this. They really do point out how they want for Whites what Jews get for Jews in Israel, Blacks get for Blacks in Liberia and Wakanda, Japanese get for Japanese in Japan, that there are obvious anti-White double-standards in play, etc.

    Shocking.

    Another poster has already made the same point, but it bears repeating. The reason blacks are allowed to promote black interests and want or at least claim to want a black ethnostate, but that whites are not granted the same right, is that everyone knows black separation will never happen since blacks will always depend on whites for their welfare, whereas whites will thrive once freed from having to support the black underclass.
    Its exactly the same with that bloke made famous on youtube a few years back who said he wanted to exterminate white people. he got away with saying that since no-one took him seriously since everyone knows that blacks haven’t the competence to exetrminate anything, whereas if a white person had said the same the sky would have fallen in on him or her since everyone knows that white people are capable of doing such a thing if they are minded to.
     
    So, Jews aren't White? Cuz Jewish Nationalism and Jewish ethnostates and Jewish separation and Jews promoting Jewish interests seem to be a great way to get invited to dinner at Che Whitey. The entire US establishment approves, under pain of political death.

    It's a real mystery wrapped inside an enigma.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    So, Jews aren’t White?

    The Arabs say they are. They also claim Jews are European. Which is the opposite of what many here say.

    But the Arabs are neither.

  115. Hooray for black separatism!

  116. @JerseyJeffersonian
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Well, it's complicated. Or not. Ya see, all of those stay-behind brethren and sistren of the Jewish persuasion here in the US seem to be dedicated to advocating for the exact opposite social situation here.

    Diversity is our strength, non-existent borders (although quite happy to exploit the advanced technology here to push the first two items on the list), the non-centrality of the family to the preservation of culture and national feelings, the encouragement of conflict between residents of the US, hostility to the largely Christian and Western European background of our culture and nation... Well, the list just goes on and on. It's almost like they're some sort of Operation Gladio directed toward subverting the culture and nation in every way possible. And then, they want us to underwrite the shitty little country to the tune of billions every damn year (some substantial proportion of which is undoubtedly earmarked for suborning our politicians [who vote for the money in the first place, naturally] to make it a criminal offense to criticize Israel, among other actions like getting espionage cases dismissed or convicted traitors like Pollack released.

    So not so hard to understand after all, eh, Charles.

    Replies: @Krastos the Gluemaker, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Thanks for emphasizing the point. Your criticisms are directed toward American Jews. But Israel is implementing at least some of the policies that either you, or I, or both of us would like to see implemented here. So why the animosity toward Israel? They do what we want to do.

    When I read you post, I wondered, did you read what I wrote?

  117. @MEH 0910
    @Stan Adams

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/03/hultgreen-curie-architecture-edition.html

    Replies: @CCZ

    I offer this information with no intent to imply responsibility to any person or persons, but only to clarify available facts.

    The referenced article used the phrase “female engineer/project executive.” The person cited does not appear to be a licensed professional engineer (PE), but rather a senior “Project Executive” with a Bachelor of Science degree in Construction Management, as described below from LinkedIn and the FIU Construction Management Program description.

    Project Executive
    MCM | Munilla Construction Management
    Oversee the K-12 and Higher Educational Facility projects from pursuit through completion.
    Florida International University, Bachelor in Science, Construction Management

    Construction Management, BACHELOR OF SCIENCE
    FIU College of Engineering and Computing
    Program Description
    The undergraduate program in Construction Management is nationally accredited by the American Council for Construction Education. Its goal is to provide students with the knowledge and skills required for entry level supervisory or managerial positions in the construction industry. Graduates usually find employment as project managers, project schedulers, cost estimators, quality controllers or in managing their own construction firms. Opportunities for employment or advancement exist in all areas of the construction industry including land development, home building, public building, industrialized building systems, commercial, industrial, marine and highway heavy construction, underwater and space age facilities, material and equipment sales and installations, and construction product research, development and sales.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @CCZ

    She works for a firm with friends in high places:
    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article205425354.html

    This press release, now sadly outdated, claims that her daughter has a strong interest in STEM:
    https://news.fiu.edu/2018/03/community-gathers-to-watch-950-ton-bridge-move-across-southwest-8th-street/120395

    You go, girl! Build us a bridge to the wondrous new world of tomorrow!

  118. The reason that White nationalists–or at least a large part of them–are considered to be White supremacists is because they celebrate the Confederacy. The Confederacy wasn’t about creating a White ethno-state, but rather about allowing Whites to continue ruling over and enslaving Blacks.

    Also, it doesn’t help that a large part of the alt-right also celebrates Nazi Germany. I mean, even if one only cared about White lives, Nazi Germany caused the deaths of tens of millions of White people (primarily in the Soviet Union). Plus, even if the Nazis would have won the war, not all White people would have been welcome in Nazi-occupied Europe. Indeed, as far as I know, at least several dozen million Soviet White people would have been deported east of the Urals in a Nazi victory scenario.

    You’re attributing waaaay more intellectual rigor to the Regime than it deserves. WNs could all be saints and the Regime would want them all dead anyway.

    I might give a rat’s ass about this or the Nazi thing if leftists raised a pinky to distance themselves from the Soviets and the millions of civilians they slaughtered, but they don’t.

    The reason for normies’ political positions is (((Big Media))) feeds them their opinions. With decreasing efficacy, I’m happy to note.

    P.S., the Union wasn’t about ending White rule over Blacks, but about money. If they’d just wanted to free the slaves they would have freed the Confederacy soon after.

  119. Thanks for emphasizing the point. Your criticisms are directed toward American Jews. But Israel is implementing at least some of the policies that either you, or I, or both of us would like to see implemented here. So why the animosity toward Israel? They do what we want to do.

    When I read you post, I wondered, did you read what I wrote?

    So, if I’m building a house, and you’re building a house, and my brother keeps burning your house down before you can finish building it, you’re gonna be happy that I got my nice house finished?

    How many more ways can we possibly explain this to you guys?

  120. Odd that WaPo uses “diaspora” to describe the group that they nominally favor in this characterization.

  121. It took not one, but three WaPo stooges to come up with this conclusion about Black Panther – an Natz Geo style Science Faction Documentary :

    “…But the traditional portrayal of Africans needing help from wealthy, white Westerners is flipped, with the superhero and other Wakandans bringing advanced technology and a quest for justice to a world badly in need of both.”

    Timberg, Harwell & Zeitchik

    bored identity welcomes this revisionist flip which creates parallel universe wherein Africans do not need help from wealthy, white Westerners.

    bored identity would also like to use it as an encouragement for Trump to tweeetstorm this tremendous breaking news to :

    1.) World Bankers –
    https://blogs.worldbank.org/africacan/another-reason-why-aid-to-africa-must-increase

    2.) Oxfam Industrial-Scale Child Molesters –
    https://www.oxfamamerica.org/explore/research-publications/foreign-aid-101/

    and , last but not least,

    3.) His Own, Swamp Drowning Administration –
    https://www.foreignassistance.gov/explore

    ….so they all know that Wakanda will do just fine without US.

  122. @CCZ
    @MEH 0910

    I offer this information with no intent to imply responsibility to any person or persons, but only to clarify available facts.

    The referenced article used the phrase "female engineer/project executive." The person cited does not appear to be a licensed professional engineer (PE), but rather a senior "Project Executive" with a Bachelor of Science degree in Construction Management, as described below from LinkedIn and the FIU Construction Management Program description.

    Project Executive
    MCM | Munilla Construction Management
    Oversee the K-12 and Higher Educational Facility projects from pursuit through completion.
    Florida International University, Bachelor in Science, Construction Management

    Construction Management, BACHELOR OF SCIENCE
    FIU College of Engineering and Computing
    Program Description
    The undergraduate program in Construction Management is nationally accredited by the American Council for Construction Education. Its goal is to provide students with the knowledge and skills required for entry level supervisory or managerial positions in the construction industry. Graduates usually find employment as project managers, project schedulers, cost estimators, quality controllers or in managing their own construction firms. Opportunities for employment or advancement exist in all areas of the construction industry including land development, home building, public building, industrialized building systems, commercial, industrial, marine and highway heavy construction, underwater and space age facilities, material and equipment sales and installations, and construction product research, development and sales.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    She works for a firm with friends in high places:
    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article205425354.html

    This press release, now sadly outdated, claims that her daughter has a strong interest in STEM:
    https://news.fiu.edu/2018/03/community-gathers-to-watch-950-ton-bridge-move-across-southwest-8th-street/120395

    You go, girl! Build us a bridge to the wondrous new world of tomorrow!

  123. Every time I see an article reporting some incident of black crime I call the individual a “Wakandan” in the comment section. My hope is that eventually the term will be so associated with black dysfunction that eventually they will have to start calling it the W word, just like they currently do with another common slur.

    • LOL: BB753
  124. Every time I see an article reporting some incident of black crime I call the individual a “Wakandan” in the comment section. My hope is that eventually the term will be so associated with black dysfunction that eventually they will have to start calling it the W word, just like they currently do with another common slur.

    That’s pretty good. You have a lot of precedent to back up your hope, by the way.

  125. @Twinkie

    the movie’s main themes
     
    Black ethno-nationalism = diversity = good.

    White ethno-nationalism = white supremacy = evil.

    You see, we are all supposed to get it through our thick skulls. Black people are awesome, and we should all be thankful to live within their midst. All the poverty, violence, and other forms of dysfunction are but a small price to pay for the privilege of their vibrancy (or is it Vibranium, I don't know, I haven't seen the film and won't).

    Of course, if the leftists were genuinely interested in fostering friendly and constructive inter-racial relationships between blacks and non-blacks, this is exactly the wrong thing to do, constantly shoving the boot on our faces. If, on the other hand, the goal is to humiliate and prostrate non-blacks, this all makes sense.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    I think leftists are still frustrated with the term, Alt-Right…because they just want so badly, to figure out a way to identify the enemy, I suppose..figure out who to hate, vilify/destroy, whatever. Leftists/Democrats love, love, love to label and “check boxes” of grievance or identity.

    There is no Alt-Right identity. Alt-Right is full of much more diversity than Democrats could ever know – because it is not skin color/race/ancestry, exclusively,…everything leftists/Democrat idiots believe about the people they appear to hate, hate, hate, all the time.

    Alt-Right (a term I never use because it is silly; and I abhor the way it sounds in ways I can not even explain ) – it is a belief of not accepting/wanting the destruction/belittlement of Western Civilization, or the negating and invalidating the immeasurable contributions of civilization by Western great minds in STEM & Art, philosophy, religion, etc.

    Personally, I like Alright, alright, alright and Livin, to describe what people who want to preserve (conserve) the legacy of Western Civilization, believe.

  126. @Big Bill
    Wakandans don't want to wind up refugees ... just like white South Africans:

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/mar/14/dutton-considers-fast-track-visas-for-white-south-african-farmers

    Replies: @Anonym

    More Dutton news:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/22/australia-defies-crazy-lefties-promises-to-aid-white-minority-south-african-farmers/

    All the criticism over the last week has meant nothing to me. We’re looking at ways we can help people to migrate to Australia if they find themselves in that situation. We’ve been inundated with messages of support and references for particular cases.

    It concerns me that people are being persecuted at the moment, that’s the reality — the number of people dying or being savagely attacked in South Africa is a reality.

    There’s lots of outrage from some of the crazy lefties at the ABC, the Guardian and Huffington Post can express concern and draw mean cartoons about me and all the rest of it — they don’t realise how completely dead they are to me.

  127. Researchers said the episode seemed to mark a turn for white nationalists online. Instead of avoiding a cultural phenomenon that conflicts with their ideology, they have sought to subvert and transform it in hopes of recruiting followers and normalizing their views on white supremacy. The misinformation campaign also shows how such groups are increasingly propagating disinformation, by morphing breaking news and cultural touchstones into staging grounds for hateful ideologies and racist ideas.

    Quite a paragraph: subvert, transform, normalizing, white supremacy, misinformation, disinformation, hateful, racist. A lot of accusations of subversion in the course of a sentence and a half. Must have touched a nerve!

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