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Eric Cantor and founder of pro-immigration FWD.us Mark Zuckerberg
Economics professor and Eric Cantor-conqueror Dave Brat wrote earlier this year:
“We all know the basic economics. Labor markets are still in chaos, and now our leadership wants to import more low wage labor, lower the wage rate for our citizens, and provide BIG business cronies with cheap labor.
“The Elites get cheap labor and you get low wages, more unemployment and to pay all the taxes that will support the Ruling Class in DC. This is classic Cantor vs. the People of the 7th District”
Dave Weigel writes at Slate:
So, what is he? The first-look impression, that he’s a libertarian and a Christian, isn’t challenged by anything that’s come out since yesterday. That means he attacks “crony capitalism” from the right. He does not call for regulation of Wall Street; he calls for prosecution of illegal behavior on Wall Street.
That’s a pretty radical vision: rolling history back all the way to the George H.W. Bush administration when hundreds of financial fraudsters went to prison for looting the country.
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I think this had more to do with anti-Semitism than anti-immigration. Lindsey Graham still won his primary.
I watched Fox News’ “Special Report” tonight to see what the All-(neocon)-Star Panel would have to say about Cantor’s defeat. They all agreed that immigration wasn’t really the issue, it was more about him losing touch with the voters back home. Murdoch seems to be keeping a tight rein on his crew there, I’ve hardly heard an anti-amnesty peep out of any of them lately.
Dan
That same electorate gave Eric Cantor seven terms. I guess they’re “anti-Semitic” in that one day some time between November 2012 and June 2014, they woke up and suddenly discovered that Eric Cantor is Jewish.
Sailer writes:
That’s a pretty radical vision: rolling history back all the way to the George H.W. Bush administration when hundreds of financial fraudsters went to prison for looting the country.
I respond:
Other than Bernie Madoff, whose crimes were so obvious that the Feds had to prosecute, have there been any big names from the 2008 collapse prosecuted? Obama has had 5.5 years so far to do so, crickets.
Also note that Brat’s campaign used a picture of Cantor with Zuckerberg, as if to insinuate a Jewish cabal or something. When Cantor’s district is not one with Silicon Valley type high tech workers.
Countenance,
Most congressional elections go unnoticed with low participation. What was different this time was that you had a campaign against him that used strongly coded language and campaigning to elicit certain latent sentiments.
countenance, I mostly agree with your point. The most egregious example of non-prosecution, of course, is Corzine. However, there have been more prosecutions than just Madoff. Several people at the Galleon Group, a hedge fund, went to jail for insider trading. Also, don’t forget that the administration has gone hard after those criminals who would attempt to circumvent campaign finance rules, like Dinesh D’Souza.
The Obama Administration has been investigating Wall Street tycoon Phil Mickelson.
“I think this had more to do with anti-Semitism than anti-immigration. Lindsey Graham still won his primary.”
Graham had $6 million to spend & also had 6 or so challengers, splitting his competition.
I like that ad. It really gets to the point. People like it when someone comes out and says out loud what they’ve been thinking but felt too inhibited to say themselves.
Dan, that’s some fine trolling. 8/10
Shawn wrote:
“Graham had $6 million to spend & also had 6 or so challengers, splitting his competition.”
“also had 6 or so challengers, splitting his competition.”
Funny how that happens.
Cantor significantly outspent Brat as well.
Countenance writes:
“Sailer writes:
“‘That’s a pretty radical vision: rolling history back all the way to the George H.W. Bush administration when hundreds of financial fraudsters went to prison for looting the country.’
“I respond:
“Other than Bernie Madoff, whose crimes were so obvious that the Feds had to prosecute, have there been any big names from the 2008 collapse prosecuted? Obama has had 5.5 years so far to do so, crickets.”
Countenance overlooks that Steve was referring to the jailing of hundreds of financial fraudsters under George H.W. Bush, i.e., the first President Bush. He was obviously contrasting that record to the relative lack of prosecutions under George W. and King Barry I.
Incidentally, most of the prosecutions on Wall Street are for insider trading – which had exactly nothing to do with the last financial collapse. Unfortunately, recklessness and stupidity in managing an institution’s assets generally does not fall under the rubric of the criminal law. Especially when the government is actively encouraging the recklessness and stupidity.
The comment by Weigel that Brat wants to stop “regulation” of Wall Street is pretty moronic. Is he suggesting that Brat wants to repeal the federal securities acts of the 1930s or capital requirements for banks? If so, that would be rather surprising.
Dan says: I think this had more to do with anti-Semitism than anti-immigration.
Unfortunately, it’s hard to disentangle the two since Jews have put themselves at the forefront of the open borders movement from Emma Lazarus on. You’d almost think “The New Colossus” was on the tablets God gave Moses.
What are the rest of us supposed to do about that?
My first thought on seeing the Cantor + Zuckerberg photo was that Cantor was palling around with a guy who supports increasing H1-B visa numbers, allowing their spouses to work in this country, and amnesty in general. I’m glad to see it didn’t help him any.
You don’t have to go back to the George H.W. Bush for criminal prosecutions of fraudsters: W’s admin meted out harsh sentences to Worldcom & Enron execs.
“Also note that Brat’s campaign used a picture of Cantor with Zuckerberg, as if to insinuate a Jewish cabal or something. ”
Ummm, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a …..
But in all seriousness, you’re using the word ‘cabal’ as if to insinuate the presence of loony, antisemitic conspiracy theorists.
“I think this had more to do with anti-Semitism than anti-immigration. Lindsey Graham still won his primary.”
BS. There were major differences between Eric Cantor’s defeat and Lindsey Graham’s victory. It wasn’t money, both of whom had plenty.
First, Graham was in a statewide race, which generally favors incumbency and name ID. It’s a lot easier to get out there and press the flesh in a congressional district with ~700,000 people than in a state with 4.8 million.
Second, Graham played divide and conquer. Graham had six opponents, making it hard for any single one of them to get traction and raise money. Some of those candidates may have been been bogus, running specifically to weaken opposition to Graham.
Third, Graham used high pressure tactics and backroom maneuvering to keep his strongest potential opponents – US House members – from even running. He used establishment connections to get them perk committee assignments, etc.
Finally, of course, what everyone else said: if Cantor lost due to anti-Semitism, then how the hell did he win all of his earlier races? Cantor claimed to be anti-amnesty, then had meetings with the businessman who has made himself the most visible advocate for immivasion: Mark Fuckerberg. It isn’t David Brat’s fault that Cantor and Zuckerberg are both Jewish.
By the way, the reverse of this played out in Utah in 2008, when amnesty supporter Rep. Chris Cannon, a Mormon with some very prominent Mormon ancestors, lost to enforcement supporter Jason Chaffetz, who is ethnically Jewish, in the most Mormon congressional district in the country. No one in that district gave a spit that Chaffetz was Jewish. His ethnic background never even came up, and Chaffetz won by a margin of 20%.
I think this had more to do with anti-Semitism than anti-immigration…
If I thought that all the anti-anti-Semites were as eager to grasp at straws as Dan, I’d never vote to elect a Jew to anything. It’d be easier to dodge the anti-Semitism slur the first time around, when the failure to get elected can be blamed on thepower of the incumbency or whatever.
And had the professional anti-anti-Semites (I’m guessing Dan does his flakking for free) believed Brat was a serious threat, we would have surely seen a slew of articles alerting us to the dangerously Saileristic xenophobia, racism, and anti-you-know-what-it-ism that animates the opposition to Cantor. But they presumably didn’t realize he was a threat until it was too late.
A saner analysis would note that Cantor – who appealed to the white-bread elements in his district by repeatedly playing his anti-establishment bona fides – was ultimately shown, in the matter of crony capitalism, to be about as establishment as one can get.
But in fairness to Dan – not that he deserves any – it might be that cozying up to immigration-pushing wage-depressing billionaires, commodity traders, Wall Street bankers, and inside-trader politicians, is viewed with greater disapproval when a Jew does it. When, oh when, I ask, will we have a country where Jews are as free to be as venal and corrupt as the goy politicians?
Dan, you are reaching for and reading in. The usefulness of the Cantor / Zuckerberg picture is precisely BECAUSE Cantor is smiling away with the poster boy for H1-B visas and amnesty foist on the rest of us, while he lives in his pristine, safe little world. That picture says, “I agree with Mark Zuckerberg. Screw Americans.” Yes, the Silicon Valley is nowhere near Cantor’s constituency. He went out of his way to get the picture. If you’re looking for “coded language,” start there. No one forced Cantor to pose.
The notion that people kicked out Cantor only because he’s Jewish is entirely wishful thinking on the part of those who aren’t fond of Jews. It’s like the National Association of Hindus Suffering From Cystic Fibrosis claiming that their members were the crucial swing demographic in a given election, when the NAOHSFCF has 500 members and some election is decided by 499 votes.
Lindsay Graham, big incumbent that he is, got 57% of the vote in his primary, which is lethargic for a Senate incumbent in his own primary. Meanwhile, the state’s other Senator, that big lug with a dark tan, the one that voted against amnesty and open borders, is up this year in a special election, and he too had a primary yesterday, and got 90% of the vote. That 33% difference, a full third of the Republican primary electorate, is indicative of something.
Yeah, we all know that republican primary voters sure hate Jews. They certainly don’t worship Israel and cast out anyone who dares question Israel’s war crimes and apartheid like buchanan or ron paul. I mean those talk radio and foxnews types just won’t shut up about the USS liberty or Jonathan pollard! They definitely don’t stage entire foreign policy discussions around us troops being killed to protect Israel or anything, either.
“The notion that people kicked out Cantor only because he’s Jewish is entirely wishful thinking on the part of those who aren’t fond of Jews.”
INCORRECT. It is entirely wishful thinking on the part of those who aren’t fond of those who aren’t fond of Jews.
Dan says:
June 11, 2014 at 9:58 pm
Also note that Brat’s campaign used a picture of Cantor with Zuckerberg, as if to insinuate a Jewish cabal or something. When Cantor’s district is not one with Silicon Valley type high tech workers.
Yeah, showing that your opponent is in cahoots with one of the most prominent public faces of immigration boosterism, when your campaign hinges on an anti-immigration theme, is just underhanded, and – what’s the word they use? – troubling. Brat might have just as well screened “Jud Suss” at his campaign rallies.
From wikipedia:
“According to the American Electronics Association, Virginia has the highest concentration of technology workers of any state.[19] Computer chips became the state’s highest-grossing export in 2006, surpassing its traditional top exports of coal and tobacco, combined.”
There are probably plenty of companies in Cantor’s district that hire H1-B visa holders, and would like to hire more.
I’m so sick of newspeople, even those on Fox who state, Polls show most Americans, even conservative Americans, favor immigration reform.”
Well, yeah, they do….but what they mean is that they want to reform the behavior of pols and businesses that hire illegals and encourage them to come here, and they want reform of the enforcement of the laws. The whole ambiguity of the phrase “reform” has cleverly been used by the advocates.
“There are probably plenty of companies in Cantor’s district that hire H1-B visa holders, and would like to hire more.”
They’re defense contractors, who hire citizens with security clearances. Quite different from Silicon Valley tech firms.
http://wallstreetpit.com/104279-boeing-ba-the-biggest-loser-from-eric-cantors-defeat/
@JMR,
My first thought on seeing the Cantor + Zuckerberg photo was that Cantor was palling around with a guy who supports increasing H1-B visa numbers, allowing their spouses to work in this country, and amnesty in general.
Allowing H1-B spouses to work is amnesty??
Dan, for 24 years the voters in his district elected Cantor. Did they all join Hamas this year?
They’re defense contractors, who hire citizens with security clearances. Quite different from Silicon Valley tech firms.
Virginia hires plenty of H1-B workers. So you’ll have to keep digging, I guess.
And anyway, why does someone have to be directly in competition with H1-B workers in order to find Zuckerberg’s “biggest civil rights” campaign hypocritical and smarmy, and worth casting a vote against regarding the politicians currying favor with him? And if you can tick off grievance hustlers like Dan with the same vote, that’s double the fun.
“Dan says:
June 12, 2014 at 2:30 am
“There are probably plenty of companies in Cantor’s district that hire H1-B visa holders, and would like to hire more.”
They’re defense contractors, who hire citizens with security clearances. Quite different from Silicon Valley tech firms.
http://wallstreetpit.com/104279-boeing-ba-the-biggest-loser-from-eric-cantors-defeat/”
That story has nothing do with companies in Cantor’s district It has to do with reauthorization of the ex-im bank, over which Cantor has some oversight function.
Your reply was a complete non-sequitur, as indeed has been everything you’ve stated here so far.
“Dan says:
June 12, 2014 at 2:30 am
“There are probably plenty of companies in Cantor’s district that hire H1-B visa holders, and would like to hire more.”
They’re defense contractors, who hire citizens with security clearances. Quite different from Silicon Valley tech firms.”
The article you linked to had nothing to do with companies in Cantor’s district. It had to do with reauthorization of the ex-im bank, over which Cantor has some influence.
Your reply was a complete non-sequitur, as indeed has been everything you’ve posted here. And, anyway, it is not just “silicon valley firms” that hire H1-Bs
“Kris says:
June 12, 2014 at 4:38 am
Allowing H1-B spouses to work is amnesty??”
It’s population replacement, and undermining the economic well-being of American citizens.
Allow me to paraphrase Dan’s trolling, err, comments:
“waaaaahhhhh”
Countenance said “I respond:
Other than Bernie Madoff, whose crimes were so obvious that the Feds had to prosecute, have there been any big names from the 2008 collapse prosecuted? Obama has had 5.5 years so far to do so, crickets.”
Madoff stole from Jews. That is unforgiveable. That’s why he was prosecuted. Notice Jon Corzine in prison? Me neither.
What is interesting is that out of the crisis in 2008 you frequently heard two statements from the big shots, financial, political and media:
1. We had to bail out the banks. We don’t like it but it had to be done
2. What they did was not illegal but immoral
They rarely get challenged when coming up with these sort of statements yet I hardly saw people actually do some investigating into the validity of these claims. David Stockman(an insider) wrote an entire book detailing that the bail out was entirely unneccesary which everybody is always surprised to hear on CNBC because surely everybody knows “we had to do it”. I mean bankers wouldn’t just lie on their own behalf to get tax money after they screwed up right?
Would like to see some couragous journalists do a Christopher Hitchens on Kissinger on some of these bankers. Not that it hurt Kissinger in the end but if some journalists could actually provide some proof so you don’t have to rely on an “impartial” committee.
What’s hilarious about the American Jews shrieking that Cantor’s loss is due to anti-Semitism is that these hysterics are, by and large, the same people who utterly disdained Cantor and dismissed him as a bad Jew because he joined the Republican Party, which is antithetical to the true principles of Judaism (as discerned by numerous Reform rabbis), such as a “woman’s right to choose” and Obamacare. Cantor’s gone, but unfortunately the looney-tune American Jewish establishment is still with us.
I think this had more to do with anti-Semitism than anti-immigration.
I wish that were true. What’s funny here is that if Dan isn’t simply trolling for the hell of it, he’s only showing his own misanthropy (hatred of “Gentiles”). So, noted, for the umpteenth time.
(Ever stop and think about how much worse the penalties and opprobrium are for ANTI-SEMITISM!!! than for misanthopy? And how morally bankrupt that is?)
P.S., maybe it’s glass half-empty: Cantor didn’t lose because ANTI-SEMITISM!!!, Graham won because homolove.
If I thought that all the anti-anti-Semites were as eager to grasp at straws as Dan, I’d never vote to elect a Jew to anything.
So, how do I convince you? Haha, just kidding, I’d vote for… hold on, trying to come up with an anti-open-borders Jew… wait, I know, Chaffetz!
That picture says, “I agree with Mark Zuckerberg. Screw Americans.”
Right…you lousy ANTI-SEMITE!!!
The notion that people kicked out Cantor only because he’s Jewish is entirely wishful thinking on the part of those who aren’t fond of Jews.
Like I said…
INCORRECT. It is entirely wishful thinking on the part of those who aren’t fond of those who aren’t fond of Jews.
No, he’s right. If I was dumber I’d have a go at believing it. Sorta like the afterlife.