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Father Jude McPeak of the Dominicans

From Breitbart:

Indiana University Students Mistake Priest for KKK Member

by TOM CICCOTTA Apr 6, 2016

On Monday, students at Indiana University Bloomington mistook a priest for a Ku Klux Klan member, taking to social media to express their fear of the alleged Klansman, who they claimed was carrying a whip, and dressed in “white robes.”

Residential hall advisor Ethan Gill quickly wrote an email to his students, warning them of the “threat” on campus: “There has been a person reported walking around campus in a KKK outfit holding a whip. Because the person is protected under first amendment rights, IUPD cannot remove this person from campus unless an act of violence is committed. Please PLEASE PLEASE be careful out there tonight, always be with someone and if you have no dire reason to be out of the building, I would recommend staying indoors if you’re alone.”

It turned out to be a priest with rosary beads.

As I wrote in Taki’s Magazine in the spring of 2013:

KKK is the New UFO

The current identity-politics hysteria was launched about a year ago (conveniently enough for the Obama reelection campaign) with the news that an angelic black baby named Trayvon Martin had been gunned down by white racist George Zimmerman.

In the latest brouhaha, Oberlin, a (very) liberal arts college outside of Cleveland, immediately shut down all classes Monday to hold a frenzied, Cultural Revolution-style rally against the rising tide of racism because one student claimed to have spied a one-man Ku Klux Klan rally on campus in the wee hours of the morning.

The past year reminds me of a similar frenzy in the early 1990s that Bill Clinton rode to the White House. Do you remember the “Year of the Woman,” in which Clinton (of all people) ran as the nemesis of bosses who make passes at the women who work for them? No? Well, since nobody else seems to remember the recent past, it’s worth mentioning how these manias seem to start up in conjunction with Democratic presidential campaigns, then sputter on for years. …

Similarly, Oberlin’s ghostly KKKer is reminiscent of scores of campus hate fiascos of recent years. But who can remember anything?

The next week in Taki’s I amplified:

The KKKrazy Glue That Holds the Obama Coalition Together
by Steve Sailer
March 13, 2013

We are constantly told that the GOP is doomed because it’s the party of straight white men. That may well be true, but few have asked: How can the diverse Democrats hold together? How can special interests as different as blacks and gays be kept in sync?

The answer appears to be: The Obama coalition can stay together only by stoking resentment—and, indeed, hatred—of straight white men. This naked animus is rationalized by projecting the hate felt by the victorious Democrats onto the losers:

We hate straight white Republican men because…they are so full of…uh…hate. Yes, that’s the ticket: We hate them because they are hateful. No, wait, I mean, we hate them because they are hate-filled. They’re practically Ku Klux Klanners.

To service this Hunger for Hate, the prestige press assiduously generates the Democratic Party’s KKKrazy Glue by whipping up fear and loathing over hate crimes, even when they didn’t technically happen.

 
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  1. KKK sightings are to Social Justice Warriors like what Elvis Presley sightings were to Rednecks after 1977.

    • Replies: @TangoMan
    @Jefferson

    Rednecks you say? You mean the famed rednecks of Long Island and Boston?

    https://twitter.com/eldrick_2nd/status/717916096913780736

    Replies: @Jefferson, @anonymous-antimarxist, @ben tillman

    , @ben tillman
    @Jefferson


    KKK sightings are to Social Justice Warriors like what Elvis Presley sightings were to Rednecks after 1977.
     
    That's not what I expected from the first comment, but it was amusing enough.
  2. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Is it the Franciscan KKK who wear white robes or the Dominican KKK? Or the Benedictines? I always get who wears all-white and who all-black confused. Then there are those sneaky Cistercians who wear white and black! What do they have to say for themselves? Robes are a real micro-aggression. The bad guy in Old Times movies always wears a robe. Probably in the Harry Potter movies also. How can one be in a Safe Place if you can see someone wearing a robe?

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    @anonymous


    Is it the Franciscan KKK who wear white robes or the Dominican KKK? Or the Benedictines? I always get who wears all-white and who all-black confused. Then there are those sneaky Cistercians who wear white and black!
     
    Gray Friars = Franciscans (because their habits were originally of undyed wool)
    Black Friars = Dominicans (because their cappa magna is black, but their habits are white--the priest in this story is a Dominican)
    White Friars = Carmelites (although their habits these days are usually brown)

    White Canons = Norbertines
    Black Canons = Augustinians

    Black Monks = Benedictines
    White Monks = Cistercians

    This all just used to be common knowledge as part of Western civilization. But now we have the children of the generation that shouted "Hey, hey, ho, ho, Western Civ has got to go." And so now they live in fear of what they don't know.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Bill, @Anonymous

    , @Big Bill
    @anonymous

    Whichever group Father McPeak represents, it is plainly insensitive to the needs and concerns of a modern multicultural society. Wearing clothes that trigger students is inexcusable.

    The assistant under-dean of the Deanery of Diversity will be in contact with the Pope. Until he attends a sensitivity and consciousness raising seminar, members of his organization will not be permitted on campus.

    , @Dr. X
    @anonymous


    Is it the Franciscan KKK who wear white robes or the Dominican KKK?
     
    Franciscans wear either brown or black, depending on the order.
    , @markflag
    @anonymous

    Franciscans: Brown though the Conventuals wear black. They all wear the white knotted Franciscan cincture and a rosary (most of the time).

    Dominicans: All white with rosary beads. At times a black cape. Leather belt.

    Benedictines: All black with black leather belt under scapular. No rosary.

    Cistercians/Trappists: White with black scapular and leather belt fastened over the scapular. No rosary.

    Jesuit: Rarely wear habit. When they do is all black with no buttons on front. Open in front. V-shaped collar. Cincture is black cloth that hangs on the right rather than the left as is typical of parish priests.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    , @Tony
    @anonymous

    Funny that priest doesnt look Dominican to me.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    , @Expletive Deleted
    @anonymous

    Black robes = Sith
    Brown = Jawas
    Brown&white = Jedi
    Khaki = Tusken Raiders
    White = Saruman
    Grey = Gandalf

  3. Hard not to laugh at “Klansmember (sic).”

    We wouldn’t want to gender offend one of these racist bastards, would we?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Shaq

    Shouldn't it be "Klansperson?" Isn't "member" kind of a sexist microaggression?

    Replies: @BlueSwedeShoes, @Corvinus, @let it burn, @blah blah blah, @duncsbaby

  4. @Shaq
    Hard not to laugh at "Klansmember (sic)."

    We wouldn't want to gender offend one of these racist bastards, would we?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Shouldn’t it be “Klansperson?” Isn’t “member” kind of a sexist microaggression?

    • Replies: @BlueSwedeShoes
    @Steve Sailer

    Presumably klansperson would be a microaggression by implying that sjw-types are humorless enough to be offended by klansmember

    , @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    From the Brietbart link…

    “This is what happens when there is miscommunication,” Gill wrote. “So what happened tonight goes like this: a person saw white robes and what looked to them like a weapon, got scared (rightfully so), warned people, warned staff, which in turn caused me to warn my residents because I need to look out for my residents, which in turn made it spread.”

    [Sigh] So, in other words, like any situation, some people see something, make an assumption, and, in today’s information age, go viral with that assumption, which turns out to a complete misunderstanding. No different than the “truth” narratives and interpretations by the vaunted Coalition of the Fringes Right, consisting of white nationalists and their race baiter toadies, PUA’s like Roissy and the boyzzz at Return Of Kings, radical Tea Partiers, and of course your garden variety John Derbyshires of the world.

    Liberals have their nutjobs, and conservatives have their crazies. Those who say, regardless of ideology, that "one side has more than the other" is way off base. How does one even measure it? What criteria is involved to thoroughly demonstrate that they are more fringe groups on the left than on the right, or vice versa?

    Not ALL, or even the majority, of liberals or conservatives fit the description of being radical lunatics. Apparently, you have yet to receive the memo.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @ben tillman, @Discard

    , @let it burn
    @Steve Sailer

    @Shouldn’t it be “Klansperson?” Isn’t “member” kind of a sexist microaggression?

    "Klansperson" has "person" in it. "Person" has "son" in it. Son = male, therefore sexist. Please subsitute "Perthing" for "Person". Therefore "Klansperson" should be "Klansperthing".

    Thank you,

    The Editorial Staff.

    , @blah blah blah
    @Steve Sailer

    I believe "person of Klanness" is the preferred term.

    , @duncsbaby
    @Steve Sailer

    I lie in wait, quietly biding my time for some day soon, "Klansperson Of Color."

    Replies: @NOTA, @E. Rekshun

  5. Dominicans wear white; Tomás de Torquemada is one of the most famous D-team friars.

    • Replies: @Oscar Peterson
    @Dirk Dagger

    If only he'd been in full uniform with the black cloak, this would never have happened! (Although would the blackness of the cloak be a cultural appropriation?)

  6. Good thing she wasn’t at the Sevilla Easter Procession in Spain.

    • Replies: @Shaq
    @Glaivester

    Didn't the Tom Hanks character in the Da Vinci code use an example of the procession as a reflection of symbolism in various cultures? I think the swastika was in there, too.

    , @Crawfurdmuir
    @Glaivester

    Your comment about the Seville Easter procession and its hooded and robed penitentes reminds me of a similar cultural dissonance I once experienced on a visit to Australia. My hosts had sent a gift basket to my room and in it was a package of Scottish shortbread, on the wrapper of which was printed a burning cross. This was of course drawn, not from the KKK, but from one of the novels (I forget which) of Sir Walter Scott, in which the fiery cross was used to summon the clans.

    Scott's novels had long been popular in the South. Thomas Dixon, the author of The Clansman (1906) adopted this element from them for his romanticised portrayal of the Ku Klux Klan, even though there is no evidence that the Reconstruction-era Klan ever burnt crosses. Cross-burning became associated with the KKK only in connection with the second, revived Klan founded in 1915, after the appearance of the movie version of Dixon's novel, The Birth of a Nation - surely an exemplary instance of life imitating art.

    At any rate, I rather wish I had saved that shortbread wrapper - it would have shocked and amazed a great many people in my acquaintance.

  7. You know what is a lot more dangerous than the KKK in Indiana? A Negro city called Gary.

  8. @Steve Sailer
    @Shaq

    Shouldn't it be "Klansperson?" Isn't "member" kind of a sexist microaggression?

    Replies: @BlueSwedeShoes, @Corvinus, @let it burn, @blah blah blah, @duncsbaby

    Presumably klansperson would be a microaggression by implying that sjw-types are humorless enough to be offended by klansmember

  9. @Jefferson
    KKK sightings are to Social Justice Warriors like what Elvis Presley sightings were to Rednecks after 1977.

    Replies: @TangoMan, @ben tillman

    Rednecks you say? You mean the famed rednecks of Long Island and Boston?

    https://twitter.com/eldrick_2nd/status/717916096913780736

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @TangoMan

    "Rednecks you say? You mean the famed rednecks of Long Island and Boston?"

    There are no Rednecks in Long Island, but there are Goombas.

    https://youtu.be/SvgMp1VX75s

    Replies: @John Derbyshire

    , @anonymous-antimarxist
    @TangoMan

    Isn't there a throw away line in just about every Woody Allen movie of the last 50 years where Woody's character is certain that Staten Island, Long Island, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Boston, UpState Ny..... are full of Nazis, Rednecks and Cossacks?

    For example:

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Manhattan_(film)


    Isaac: Has anybody read that Nazis are gonna march in New Jersey? Ya know? I read it in the newspaper. We should go down there, get some guys together, ya know, get some bricks and baseball bats, and really explain things to 'em.
     
    In the movies this paranoia becomes Woody's excuse for never leaving Manhattan. In real life it pretty much explains the "Pauline Kael world view" effect.

    It also explains the Jewish elites obsession with with destroying the Boy Scouts of America through legal actions, first for the BSA's stand against gay scoutmasters, next for decades old highly dubious allegations of child molestations by Gay scoutmasters.

    Because we all know that the BSA is just a neo-nazi front and besides if young Jews go camping with the goyim they will only be ritually sodomized instead of perhaps being merely red pilled as to their family's yenta's paranoid delusions.

    Best make sure that Jewish children be raised as hot house flowers and attend only kosher & or "progressive" youth programs and summer camps like the ones Sabrina Rubin Erdely of UVA rape hoax fame so widely touts for her precious kids.

    Microaggressions are simply "Yentaism" runamuck for POC and the more feeble minded among the goyim.
    , @ben tillman
    @TangoMan


    Rednecks you say? You mean the famed rednecks of Long Island and Boston?
     
    I looked "redneck" up in the dictionary about 30 years ago. It said, "A member of the rural Southern laboring class".

    I've spent little time in/on Long Island, but the "racism" I saw was way beyond anything I'd seen in the South.

    Replies: @Crawfurdmuir

  10. The RA seems like a real Drama Queen.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Dirk Dagger

    I hope this incident comes back to haunt him. I hope all his future potential employers say "wow, there is no way a guy this gullible and hyper-PC would be a net benefit to our organization."

    I know it won't come back to haunt him, but I hope it does.

    , @Kylie
    @Dirk Dagger

    I see what you did there.

    From his LinkedIn profile: "This past semester I've built a community, help support fellow students academically and emotionally, and I'm there to help around the hall whether it be planning and hosting events, participating in meetings, running the center desk, or adding decorations to the hallways or bulletin boards."

    Now he can add, "or warning students to stay indoors and stay safe when white-robed KKK Klansmembers, whether real or imaginary, are freely roaming the campus. "

  11. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    As a person of Catholicity I believe this supremely teachable moment is just more proof that our society and its so-called universities are institutionally and pervasively anti-Catholic. Indiana University should be forced to hire a director of Catholic outreach and all incoming freshman need courses in Cathlo-American Studies to address their Protestant privilege.
    Until these non-negotiable demands are met the Newman Society will occupy the Dean’s office.

    • Agree: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Anonymous


    Indiana University should be forced to hire a director of Catholic outreach and all incoming freshman need courses in Cathlo-American Studies to address their Protestant privilege.
     
    Do not, I repeat, do not give them any ideas. They will hire - GASP! - Jesuits and call it a day.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  12. I went into a church in Latin America during a service once. It seemed to be run by Dominicans. I don’t know that much Spanish, but the priest seemed to be delivering a compelling sermon, much better than the crap you usually hear in the US. Another was doing confession, during the service, which I though was weird, and he was carrying on a conversation with the penitent.

    People here are so f***ing stupid. They don’t know anything about life, about the world, about anything other than TV.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Thrasymachus


    I went into a church in Latin America during a service once. It seemed to be run by Dominicans.
     
    "Service"? Was there tea?
    , @Bill
    @Thrasymachus

    Confession during Mass used to be quite common. The idea that you are supposed to "pay attention," follow along, understand the words being spoken, and etc is a consequence of the new Mass (i.e. it's a 1970s and after thing). When it was in Latin, few people followed along with the words. You prayed the Rosary. You went to Confession. Maybe you prayed the Psalms or did some other devotion. You paid attention during the Consecration, since that was when the real action was occurring (this is what the bells are for). You paid attention during the sermon, if there was one.

    The idea that you are supposed to get something, in a direct linguistic way, out of the word-strings emerging from the Celebrant's mouth is Protestant. The readings from the Bible used to be in Latin only, for example. Our direct, minute to minute, understanding is not important to the Mass. Attending Mass may be good for us, but we are not essential to it or even really a part of it. The Mass happens even if nobody shows up. The Mass is there for the priest to offer propitiatory sacrifice to God, like at the Temple in Judaism.

    If you go back in time far enough, most of the action at Mass happens behind screens so you often can't even see what is going on. The removal of rood screens after the Council of Trent was an earlier example of the Church Protestantizing its Mass. The Church has been doubling down on this idea of defeating the Protties by becoming more like them for a long, long time.

    It's kind of funny. Even the most apparently rock-ribbed, crazed, traditionalist reactionaries are just defending the liberalism of a past time.

    Replies: @utu, @Buffalo Joe

  13. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    If strange clothing freaks them out, these students would never survive a trip to Walmart.

    It’s obvious the kiddies have never been to church or taken courses in European History or Western Civilization. All you need to troll the little twits into psychotic breakdowns is a Halloween ghost’s bedsheet and a dark night. Maybe conservative students should take that idea up. It would purge campuses across America of annoying SJWs.

  14. Just because it was a Catholic monk – this time – doesn’t mean that there isn’t an epidemic of KKK members openly walking around our campuses. This is a serious problem. Just ask any SJW. True statistic: 40% of the SJWs are assaulted by racists at least weekly.

    There is credible information that the vast majority of the campus KKK members are named Haven Monahan (admittedly, an unlikely name for a KKK member.) Incidentally, Monahan literally means monk in Gaelic. Obviously, this means that the monk in the story did belong to KKK after all.

    • Agree: Percy Gryce
    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @inertial

    "True statistic: 40% of the SJWs are assaulted by racists at least weekly."

    I thought it was 100 percent of SJWs on college campuses are assaulted by the KKK on a weekly basis.

  15. @inertial
    Just because it was a Catholic monk - this time - doesn't mean that there isn't an epidemic of KKK members openly walking around our campuses. This is a serious problem. Just ask any SJW. True statistic: 40% of the SJWs are assaulted by racists at least weekly.

    There is credible information that the vast majority of the campus KKK members are named Haven Monahan (admittedly, an unlikely name for a KKK member.) Incidentally, Monahan literally means monk in Gaelic. Obviously, this means that the monk in the story did belong to KKK after all.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “True statistic: 40% of the SJWs are assaulted by racists at least weekly.”

    I thought it was 100 percent of SJWs on college campuses are assaulted by the KKK on a weekly basis.

  16. They raise so much money off these mysterious KKK sightings. Why, if I ran the SPLC or ADL, I’d be tempted to create front groups claiming to be White “Supremacists” to scare old people living in Florida into donating.

    But nobody would be that cruel.

  17. @anonymous
    Is it the Franciscan KKK who wear white robes or the Dominican KKK? Or the Benedictines? I always get who wears all-white and who all-black confused. Then there are those sneaky Cistercians who wear white and black! What do they have to say for themselves? Robes are a real micro-aggression. The bad guy in Old Times movies always wears a robe. Probably in the Harry Potter movies also. How can one be in a Safe Place if you can see someone wearing a robe?

    Replies: @Percy Gryce, @Big Bill, @Dr. X, @markflag, @Tony, @Expletive Deleted

    Is it the Franciscan KKK who wear white robes or the Dominican KKK? Or the Benedictines? I always get who wears all-white and who all-black confused. Then there are those sneaky Cistercians who wear white and black!

    Gray Friars = Franciscans (because their habits were originally of undyed wool)
    Black Friars = Dominicans (because their cappa magna is black, but their habits are white–the priest in this story is a Dominican)
    White Friars = Carmelites (although their habits these days are usually brown)

    White Canons = Norbertines
    Black Canons = Augustinians

    Black Monks = Benedictines
    White Monks = Cistercians

    This all just used to be common knowledge as part of Western civilization. But now we have the children of the generation that shouted “Hey, hey, ho, ho, Western Civ has got to go.” And so now they live in fear of what they don’t know.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Percy Gryce


    Gray Friars = Franciscans (because their habits were originally of undyed wool)
    Black Friars = Dominicans (because their cappa magna is black, but their habits are white–the priest in this story is a Dominican)
    White Friars = Carmelites (although their habits these days are usually brown)

    White Canons = Norbertines
    Black Canons = Augustinians

    Black Monks = Benedictines
    White Monks = Cistercians
     
    Scars on the back = Opus Dei (I know, I know, it's not an order, but a prelature).
    , @Bill
    @Percy Gryce

    It's as much the fault of the earthly leadership of the Church as anyone else's though. Clerical and religious dress has been de facto unregulated since the Council.

    , @Anonymous
    @Percy Gryce

    I think maybe the worst part of life during a civilization's decline is the survival instinct itself. In order to navigate the kind of broad, pugnacious ignorance that permeates a burning culture, you're forced to learn how to think like those very barbarians who are setting it on fire.

    I'm not talking about principles (which, hopefully, we can somehow cling to like, ahem, " guns and religion"). Barbarians don't have principles. Most of them don't even have the concept of "tomorrow." What they do have is the pack's signalling instinct, very similar to wolves.

    It's kinda funny (and heartening) to see you break the vestments down by luminance the way you have. I remembered a few of them. But I also forgot more, and was totally ignorant of the rest. In that sense, perhaps I even fit into the ignoramus group I described. But here is the problem: I am not a wolf. My wife knows even less of sacraments and rites, yet she is also not a wolf. I agree that it's possible we should commit to memory these subtle wardrobe differences, even if only for reasons of personal enlightenment. But I doubt such knowledge would make much of a difference regarding our werewolf status.

    Meanwhile, I think the excitable lads and lasses at IU Bloomington (or their equally volatile comrades at Oberlin) could commit to memory every sect and shade of garment, every rite and ritual, and still be utterly blind to the truth. These are young people who (sadly) are scared and miserable and (even more sadly) hope to transfer that fear and misery onto others. It was their ignorance that made the priest their target, but it was their lifelong Gramscian programming that had the pack on the lookout for "robes" to begin with, no matter the cut and color.

    I wish facts were the main problem, because that would at least provide some obvious solutions. But I fear the problem is more elemental: in an age of darkness, how do you turn wolves into dogs? Per the wisdom of our ancient forebears, there doesn't seem to be any better strategy than "build the fire very bright, and toss out scraps when we can."

  18. Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says:

    kids these days have been subjected to years of propaganda, propaganda honing their skills at spotting people and ideas that might hurt corporate profits.

    These kids, their minds molded by propaganda since youth, are like weapons, ready to assail the enemy at any moment….wound up by years of propaganda, ready to serve the corporations.

    This will only start to end when people realize the power of propaganda when applied to young minds.

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Leftist conservative

    "kids these days have been subjected to years of propaganda, propaganda honing their skills at spotting people and ideas that might hurt corporate profits.

    These kids, their minds molded by propaganda since youth, are like weapons, ready to assail the enemy at any moment….wound up by years of propaganda, ready to serve the corporations.

    This will only start to end when people realize the power of propaganda when applied to young minds."

    For the best dramatic effect, imagine the above being spoken in the voice of Liam Neeson.

    , @Corvinus
    @Leftist conservative

    "kids these days have been subjected to years of propaganda, propaganda honing their skills at spotting people and ideas that might hurt corporate profits."

    So, the radical conservative propaganda is much preferred regarding the facts of life of "die"versity and the pervasive threat of Sharia law creeping into mainstream American society. Listen, SOME kids have drunk the SJW kool-aid, Does not the power of propaganda have power over the "adults of the room", or are you too blinded by your own confirmation biases?

  19. The Kkkrazy Glue is relevant to the 39 percent of Whites who voted for Obama who comprised 53 percent of the fringe coalition supporting Obama. I don’t think the NAMs and asians need a lot of incentive or affirmation to challenge Normal America. Too given how broadly White is defined in the US you’ve got a large percentage of non smoking Europeans in the 39 percent above. They too don’t need KKKrazy Glue to be hostile to Normal America.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @OsRazor

    "The Kkkrazy Glue is relevant to the 39 percent of Whites who voted for Obama who comprised 53 percent of the fringe coalition supporting Obama."

    Do you have a source for this statistic?

    Assuming that the 39% of whites who supported Obama are the "fringe", how do you propose to indoctrinate them, I mean, properly educate them, to purge them from the years of liberal propaganda. Moreover, are these white people you refer to "anti-white"? What solutions are you able to get these people back into the fold as "normal Americans"?

    Replies: @Discard

  20. @Anonymous
    As a person of Catholicity I believe this supremely teachable moment is just more proof that our society and its so-called universities are institutionally and pervasively anti-Catholic. Indiana University should be forced to hire a director of Catholic outreach and all incoming freshman need courses in Cathlo-American Studies to address their Protestant privilege.
    Until these non-negotiable demands are met the Newman Society will occupy the Dean's office.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Indiana University should be forced to hire a director of Catholic outreach and all incoming freshman need courses in Cathlo-American Studies to address their Protestant privilege.

    Do not, I repeat, do not give them any ideas. They will hire – GASP! – Jesuits and call it a day.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Twinkie

    Twinkie, I am the product of a Jesuit College education and some of my friends got a twofer with Jesuit Prep. They do walk to the beat of a different drum, but some of them have remarkable life stories to tell. One of the Jesuits at my college had been a Marine Combat pilot before following his calling.

  21. @TangoMan
    @Jefferson

    Rednecks you say? You mean the famed rednecks of Long Island and Boston?

    https://twitter.com/eldrick_2nd/status/717916096913780736

    Replies: @Jefferson, @anonymous-antimarxist, @ben tillman

    “Rednecks you say? You mean the famed rednecks of Long Island and Boston?”

    There are no Rednecks in Long Island, but there are Goombas.

    • Replies: @John Derbyshire
    @Jefferson

    There actually are rednecks here on Long Island. If you head out east and keep heading, there's a sort of social trough between the outer-outer suburbs of NYC and the Richistan of the Hamptons. Lotsa bait'n'tackle shops, pickup trucks, skinny guys with pony tails and tats. If someone wants to re-shoot Deliverance I can recommend some Long Island locations.

    My nearest skeet range is in Yaphank.

    Replies: @slumber_j, @stillCARealist, @Crawfurdmuir, @Jefferson

  22. @Percy Gryce
    @anonymous


    Is it the Franciscan KKK who wear white robes or the Dominican KKK? Or the Benedictines? I always get who wears all-white and who all-black confused. Then there are those sneaky Cistercians who wear white and black!
     
    Gray Friars = Franciscans (because their habits were originally of undyed wool)
    Black Friars = Dominicans (because their cappa magna is black, but their habits are white--the priest in this story is a Dominican)
    White Friars = Carmelites (although their habits these days are usually brown)

    White Canons = Norbertines
    Black Canons = Augustinians

    Black Monks = Benedictines
    White Monks = Cistercians

    This all just used to be common knowledge as part of Western civilization. But now we have the children of the generation that shouted "Hey, hey, ho, ho, Western Civ has got to go." And so now they live in fear of what they don't know.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Bill, @Anonymous

    Gray Friars = Franciscans (because their habits were originally of undyed wool)
    Black Friars = Dominicans (because their cappa magna is black, but their habits are white–the priest in this story is a Dominican)
    White Friars = Carmelites (although their habits these days are usually brown)

    White Canons = Norbertines
    Black Canons = Augustinians

    Black Monks = Benedictines
    White Monks = Cistercians

    Scars on the back = Opus Dei (I know, I know, it’s not an order, but a prelature).

  23. @Thrasymachus
    I went into a church in Latin America during a service once. It seemed to be run by Dominicans. I don't know that much Spanish, but the priest seemed to be delivering a compelling sermon, much better than the crap you usually hear in the US. Another was doing confession, during the service, which I though was weird, and he was carrying on a conversation with the penitent.

    People here are so f***ing stupid. They don't know anything about life, about the world, about anything other than TV.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Bill

    I went into a church in Latin America during a service once. It seemed to be run by Dominicans.

    “Service”? Was there tea?

    • Agree: Bill
  24. Whew.

    Good thing the campus snowflakes didn’t see a Felonious Monk.

  25. Another great example of the college student quality.

  26. FTA:

    Then my residents, terrified, come running to me, saying yeah the report must be true

    Let’s just say that some people are easily spooked.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Hey! You can't say "spooked"! Dats raaaaacist!

  27. The KKK are so desperate to increase their membership, that they are now letting Blacks join their organization.
    http://www.ijreview.com/2016/02/545546-twitter-reacts-as-its-claimed-black-protesters-dressed-as-kkk-crashed-nevada-caucus-as-trump-supporters/

    As a White supremacist I don’t like this at all, because it is a slippery slope. Today the KKK lets in Negroes, tomorrow they are going to start letting in Armenians. And than what after that? Catholics? This is not the America I grew up in damn it.

  28. When I think of Social Justice Warriors obsession with the KKK in 2016, I think of this song from KC And The Sunshine Band “I’m Your Boogeyman”.

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    @Jefferson

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mABuS9eSWnQ

    , @anonymous-antimarxist
    @Jefferson

    Or perhaps we just wish the SJWs would learn from what is now a popular British football chant.


    The song has been turned into a sporting chant in England and Scotland. The song was played after each goal scored by Hearts in their 5–1 victory against Hibernian in the 2012 Scottish Cup Final.[13]

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_It_Up_(KC_and_the_Sunshine_Band_song)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psFQMKcsIF8

    Not saying that KC might be a bit gay, but damm it was 1983 and he has still got on pants tighter than what Led Zeppelin was wearing in 1973. But hell, the song was after all a big hit in Europe.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  29. A Black guy on The Huffington Post blames White people for his mom passing away from lung cancer.

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/9624712

    It looks like something straight out of The Onion. Leftism in the 21st Century has really turned into a parody, an anti-White parody.

    • Replies: @Warner
    @Jefferson

    He's so right. African life expectancy is so low and here is his Mom living into her 60s even after smoking. And he's also very alive in a white society whole blacks all over Africa are dead today. Maybe he should kill himself to show solidarity with the less fortunate in Africa who do not benefit from inheriting the privileges of living in a white country.

  30. @Leftist conservative
    kids these days have been subjected to years of propaganda, propaganda honing their skills at spotting people and ideas that might hurt corporate profits.

    These kids, their minds molded by propaganda since youth, are like weapons, ready to assail the enemy at any moment....wound up by years of propaganda, ready to serve the corporations.

    This will only start to end when people realize the power of propaganda when applied to young minds.

    Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy, @Corvinus

    “kids these days have been subjected to years of propaganda, propaganda honing their skills at spotting people and ideas that might hurt corporate profits.

    These kids, their minds molded by propaganda since youth, are like weapons, ready to assail the enemy at any moment….wound up by years of propaganda, ready to serve the corporations.

    This will only start to end when people realize the power of propaganda when applied to young minds.”

    For the best dramatic effect, imagine the above being spoken in the voice of Liam Neeson.

  31. @TangoMan
    @Jefferson

    Rednecks you say? You mean the famed rednecks of Long Island and Boston?

    https://twitter.com/eldrick_2nd/status/717916096913780736

    Replies: @Jefferson, @anonymous-antimarxist, @ben tillman

    Isn’t there a throw away line in just about every Woody Allen movie of the last 50 years where Woody’s character is certain that Staten Island, Long Island, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Boston, UpState Ny….. are full of Nazis, Rednecks and Cossacks?

    For example:

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Manhattan_(film)

    Isaac: Has anybody read that Nazis are gonna march in New Jersey? Ya know? I read it in the newspaper. We should go down there, get some guys together, ya know, get some bricks and baseball bats, and really explain things to ’em.

    In the movies this paranoia becomes Woody’s excuse for never leaving Manhattan. In real life it pretty much explains the “Pauline Kael world view” effect.

    It also explains the Jewish elites obsession with with destroying the Boy Scouts of America through legal actions, first for the BSA’s stand against gay scoutmasters, next for decades old highly dubious allegations of child molestations by Gay scoutmasters.

    Because we all know that the BSA is just a neo-nazi front and besides if young Jews go camping with the goyim they will only be ritually sodomized instead of perhaps being merely red pilled as to their family’s yenta’s paranoid delusions.

    Best make sure that Jewish children be raised as hot house flowers and attend only kosher & or “progressive” youth programs and summer camps like the ones Sabrina Rubin Erdely of UVA rape hoax fame so widely touts for her precious kids.

    Microaggressions are simply “Yentaism” runamuck for POC and the more feeble minded among the goyim.

  32. They would really flip if they were to see the Procession de la Sanch or something similar.

  33. @Jefferson
    When I think of Social Justice Warriors obsession with the KKK in 2016, I think of this song from KC And The Sunshine Band "I'm Your Boogeyman".
    https://youtu.be/CaPcKtLioww

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist, @anonymous-antimarxist

  34. @Jefferson
    When I think of Social Justice Warriors obsession with the KKK in 2016, I think of this song from KC And The Sunshine Band "I'm Your Boogeyman".
    https://youtu.be/CaPcKtLioww

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist, @anonymous-antimarxist

    Or perhaps we just wish the SJWs would learn from what is now a popular British football chant.

    The song has been turned into a sporting chant in England and Scotland. The song was played after each goal scored by Hearts in their 5–1 victory against Hibernian in the 2012 Scottish Cup Final.[13]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_It_Up_(KC_and_the_Sunshine_Band_song)

    Not saying that KC might be a bit gay, but damm it was 1983 and he has still got on pants tighter than what Led Zeppelin was wearing in 1973. But hell, the song was after all a big hit in Europe.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    Speaking of disco groups like K.C. and the Sunshine Band, I was just now reading up on Chic (Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edwards), who were huge right after K.C. in the late 1970s ("Le Freak" and "Good Times"). Chic was very influential on the first generation of rappers (e.g., the first Top 40 rap hit in the 1970s, the Sugarhill Gang's "Rapper's Delight," lifts Chic's "Good Times" riff; and the 1980 #1 rap hit by Blondie, "Rapture," also uses "Good Times," while Queen's 1980 #1 quasi-rap hit "Another One Bites the Dust" lifts the bassline).

    But back in the late 1970s I always thought Chic sounded kind of New Wave as well sounding disco. Listening to the KC (two white guys and a bunch of black session musicians) from the mid-1970s, I can hear that Chic was doing something similar to KC in the late 1970s, but their guitar sound was janglier and more alien, kind of like what Johnny Rotten's PIL was doing in the late 1970s and that U2 perfected in 1981.

    And sure enough, it turns out that the first time Rodgers ever heard anybody rapping, in late 1978, it was at a NYC show that he had been invited to by ... Deborah Harry and Chris Stein, the wife-husband leaders of the New Wave band Blondie. So the fact that Blondie had the first #1 rap hit turns out to make all sorts of sense.

    Soon after Chic played in a show with Blondie and the Clash, who were living in New York in the second half of 1979, and the Clash released their own rap song in late 1980, "Magnificent Seven." (I wouldn't be surprised if there was some direct connection to Talking Heads, who released their own rap song in 1980, "Crosseyed & Painless.")

    Reading up on Nile Rodgers, I see that his stepfather was a Jewish beatnik drug addict in NYC. So it's not surprising that black rap and white new wave were closely linked 35 years ago.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @anonymous-antimarxist, @E. Rekshun, @Discard

  35. @anonymous-antimarxist
    @Jefferson

    Or perhaps we just wish the SJWs would learn from what is now a popular British football chant.


    The song has been turned into a sporting chant in England and Scotland. The song was played after each goal scored by Hearts in their 5–1 victory against Hibernian in the 2012 Scottish Cup Final.[13]

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_It_Up_(KC_and_the_Sunshine_Band_song)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psFQMKcsIF8

    Not saying that KC might be a bit gay, but damm it was 1983 and he has still got on pants tighter than what Led Zeppelin was wearing in 1973. But hell, the song was after all a big hit in Europe.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Speaking of disco groups like K.C. and the Sunshine Band, I was just now reading up on Chic (Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edwards), who were huge right after K.C. in the late 1970s (“Le Freak” and “Good Times”). Chic was very influential on the first generation of rappers (e.g., the first Top 40 rap hit in the 1970s, the Sugarhill Gang’s “Rapper’s Delight,” lifts Chic’s “Good Times” riff; and the 1980 #1 rap hit by Blondie, “Rapture,” also uses “Good Times,” while Queen’s 1980 #1 quasi-rap hit “Another One Bites the Dust” lifts the bassline).

    But back in the late 1970s I always thought Chic sounded kind of New Wave as well sounding disco. Listening to the KC (two white guys and a bunch of black session musicians) from the mid-1970s, I can hear that Chic was doing something similar to KC in the late 1970s, but their guitar sound was janglier and more alien, kind of like what Johnny Rotten’s PIL was doing in the late 1970s and that U2 perfected in 1981.

    And sure enough, it turns out that the first time Rodgers ever heard anybody rapping, in late 1978, it was at a NYC show that he had been invited to by … Deborah Harry and Chris Stein, the wife-husband leaders of the New Wave band Blondie. So the fact that Blondie had the first #1 rap hit turns out to make all sorts of sense.

    Soon after Chic played in a show with Blondie and the Clash, who were living in New York in the second half of 1979, and the Clash released their own rap song in late 1980, “Magnificent Seven.” (I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some direct connection to Talking Heads, who released their own rap song in 1980, “Crosseyed & Painless.”)

    Reading up on Nile Rodgers, I see that his stepfather was a Jewish beatnik drug addict in NYC. So it’s not surprising that black rap and white new wave were closely linked 35 years ago.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Steve Sailer

    https://youtu.be/mfYQXd6ssqU?t=58s

    Here's a 1981 bootleg recording of a concert with Blondie / Chic / Fab Five doing a version of Good Times / Rapture / Rapper's Delight.

    So it turns out that 35 years ago, people got the joke, but now it all sounds like Verboten Cultural Appropriation.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @anonymous-antimarxist
    @Steve Sailer

    First of all Chic and KC and the Sunshine Band were just so much better than the rest of late 70's disco dreg.

    Remember about 1998 going to a bar in Chicago after a rollerblading event and dancing with a young twentysomething who thought "Boogie Shoes" from the Boogie Nights soundtrack was a new song. I had to tell her she was not born yet when it first came out.

    There have been several documentaries on the "Death of Disco" and the rise of rap. In fact the UNSUNG series on the ONE network, a black entertainment network has episodes on both Chic and The Sugar Hill Gang.

    Rogers/Edwards wrote the song "Le Freak" which started out as "F**K Off" because they increasingly had trouble getting into the very "velvet rope" Manhattan discos where they both had played previously or their records were hits.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Freak

    According to Rogers, it was Disco's increasing elitism and overt gayness that killed the genre, not necessarily racism, homophobia or even Steve Dahl. Early rappers simply learned to cater to young people who could not afford, or were not stylish enough, to get into the hottest clubs.

    Meanwhile Mutt Lange helped AC/DC to a huge hit with "You Shook Me All Night Long" by giving it a beat even uncoordinated white guys who thought disco was for fags could manage enough liquid courage to ask a girl to dance to.

    Chic's repertoire, especially "Good Times" along with Tony Thompson's beats are pretty much rap sampling staples to this day.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @E. Rekshun
    @Steve Sailer

    Nile Rodgers

    I walked right by Nile Rogers at the Denver International Airport last summer. He was smiling and carrying a guitar case.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Discard
    @Steve Sailer

    The first rap I heard was "Trouble Coming Every Day", from Frank Zappa's album "Freak Out", circa 1966. I gathered that rap was a street corner hanging out thing that Blacks kids did, and Zappa adopted it for his song about the Watts riots of 1965.

  36. @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    Speaking of disco groups like K.C. and the Sunshine Band, I was just now reading up on Chic (Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edwards), who were huge right after K.C. in the late 1970s ("Le Freak" and "Good Times"). Chic was very influential on the first generation of rappers (e.g., the first Top 40 rap hit in the 1970s, the Sugarhill Gang's "Rapper's Delight," lifts Chic's "Good Times" riff; and the 1980 #1 rap hit by Blondie, "Rapture," also uses "Good Times," while Queen's 1980 #1 quasi-rap hit "Another One Bites the Dust" lifts the bassline).

    But back in the late 1970s I always thought Chic sounded kind of New Wave as well sounding disco. Listening to the KC (two white guys and a bunch of black session musicians) from the mid-1970s, I can hear that Chic was doing something similar to KC in the late 1970s, but their guitar sound was janglier and more alien, kind of like what Johnny Rotten's PIL was doing in the late 1970s and that U2 perfected in 1981.

    And sure enough, it turns out that the first time Rodgers ever heard anybody rapping, in late 1978, it was at a NYC show that he had been invited to by ... Deborah Harry and Chris Stein, the wife-husband leaders of the New Wave band Blondie. So the fact that Blondie had the first #1 rap hit turns out to make all sorts of sense.

    Soon after Chic played in a show with Blondie and the Clash, who were living in New York in the second half of 1979, and the Clash released their own rap song in late 1980, "Magnificent Seven." (I wouldn't be surprised if there was some direct connection to Talking Heads, who released their own rap song in 1980, "Crosseyed & Painless.")

    Reading up on Nile Rodgers, I see that his stepfather was a Jewish beatnik drug addict in NYC. So it's not surprising that black rap and white new wave were closely linked 35 years ago.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @anonymous-antimarxist, @E. Rekshun, @Discard

    Here’s a 1981 bootleg recording of a concert with Blondie / Chic / Fab Five doing a version of Good Times / Rapture / Rapper’s Delight.

    So it turns out that 35 years ago, people got the joke, but now it all sounds like Verboten Cultural Appropriation.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Steve Sailer

    From Wikipedia:

    "In late 1978, Debbie Harry suggested that Chic's Nile Rodgers join her and Chris Stein at a hip hop event, which at the time was a communal space taken over by teenagers with boombox stereos playing various pieces of music that performers would break dance to. Rodgers experienced this event the first time himself at a high school in the Bronx. On September 20, 1979, and September 21, 1979, Blondie and Chic were playing concerts with The Clash in New York at The Palladium. When Chic started playing "Good Times", rapper Fab Five Freddy and the members of the Sugarhill Gang ("Big Bank Hank" Jackson, Mike Wright, and "Master Gee" O'Brien), jumped up on stage and started freestyling with the band. A few weeks later Rodgers was on the dance floor of New York club Leviticus and heard the DJ play a song which opened with Bernard Edwards' bass line from Chic's "Good Times". Rodgers approached the DJ who said he was playing a record he had just bought that day in Harlem. The song turned out to be an early version of "Rapper's Delight", which also included a scratched version of the song's string section. Rodgers and Edwards immediately threatened legal action over copyright, which resulted in a settlement and their being credited as co-writers.[5] Rodgers admitted that he was originally upset with the song, but later declared it to be "one of his favorite songs of all time" and his favorite of all the tracks that sampled (or in this instance interpolated) Chic[6][better source needed]. He also stated: "As innovative and important as 'Good Times' was, 'Rapper's Delight' was just as much, if not more so."[7] "Rapper's Delight" is said to be the song that popularized rap music and put it into the mainstream.[citation needed]"

    Replies: @Johnny Smoggins

  37. @Steve Sailer
    @Steve Sailer

    https://youtu.be/mfYQXd6ssqU?t=58s

    Here's a 1981 bootleg recording of a concert with Blondie / Chic / Fab Five doing a version of Good Times / Rapture / Rapper's Delight.

    So it turns out that 35 years ago, people got the joke, but now it all sounds like Verboten Cultural Appropriation.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    From Wikipedia:

    “In late 1978, Debbie Harry suggested that Chic’s Nile Rodgers join her and Chris Stein at a hip hop event, which at the time was a communal space taken over by teenagers with boombox stereos playing various pieces of music that performers would break dance to. Rodgers experienced this event the first time himself at a high school in the Bronx. On September 20, 1979, and September 21, 1979, Blondie and Chic were playing concerts with The Clash in New York at The Palladium. When Chic started playing “Good Times”, rapper Fab Five Freddy and the members of the Sugarhill Gang (“Big Bank Hank” Jackson, Mike Wright, and “Master Gee” O’Brien), jumped up on stage and started freestyling with the band. A few weeks later Rodgers was on the dance floor of New York club Leviticus and heard the DJ play a song which opened with Bernard Edwards’ bass line from Chic’s “Good Times”. Rodgers approached the DJ who said he was playing a record he had just bought that day in Harlem. The song turned out to be an early version of “Rapper’s Delight”, which also included a scratched version of the song’s string section. Rodgers and Edwards immediately threatened legal action over copyright, which resulted in a settlement and their being credited as co-writers.[5] Rodgers admitted that he was originally upset with the song, but later declared it to be “one of his favorite songs of all time” and his favorite of all the tracks that sampled (or in this instance interpolated) Chic[6][better source needed]. He also stated: “As innovative and important as ‘Good Times’ was, ‘Rapper’s Delight’ was just as much, if not more so.”[7] “Rapper’s Delight” is said to be the song that popularized rap music and put it into the mainstream.[citation needed]”

    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
    @Steve Sailer

    Have you ever seen this - New York 1977 - The Coolest Year in Hell

    Interesting documentary that traces the roots of punk/new wave, disco and rap to NYC in the year 1977

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHXAYddPLsM

    Replies: @ben tillman

  38. These sissified campus creatures are as irrelevant as they are pathetic. They are the FSFA. The Future Subsistence Farmers of America.

  39. @Jefferson
    @TangoMan

    "Rednecks you say? You mean the famed rednecks of Long Island and Boston?"

    There are no Rednecks in Long Island, but there are Goombas.

    https://youtu.be/SvgMp1VX75s

    Replies: @John Derbyshire

    There actually are rednecks here on Long Island. If you head out east and keep heading, there’s a sort of social trough between the outer-outer suburbs of NYC and the Richistan of the Hamptons. Lotsa bait’n’tackle shops, pickup trucks, skinny guys with pony tails and tats. If someone wants to re-shoot Deliverance I can recommend some Long Island locations.

    My nearest skeet range is in Yaphank.

    • Replies: @slumber_j
    @John Derbyshire

    The porter in my Manhattan apartment building recommended the Yaphank range to me just yesterday. He went last weekend and loved it, and he has ultra-reliable opinions in these matters. I need to get out there.

    , @stillCARealist
    @John Derbyshire

    we are EVERYWHERE! You should see the sunburn on my neck after a day spent drinking cheap beer outside the bait n tackle shop. Also, I shop at Walmart and have an NRA sticker on my pickup. Once, though, I met a dentist and was polite to him.

    , @Crawfurdmuir
    @John Derbyshire

    I don't know why you associate a skeet range with rednecks. Skeet shooting is not a particularly downscale game, though sporting clays perhaps draws a more affluent following these days.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    , @Jefferson
    @John Derbyshire

    "There actually are rednecks here on Long Island."

    Do these "Rednecks" in Long Island pronounce the word coffee the same way that Jews and Guineas do? Because if they do than they are not Rednecks. No real true Redneck would ever sound like Tony Danza or Bernie Sanders. Rednecks are suppose to sound like Larry The Cable Guy.

  40. @anonymous
    Is it the Franciscan KKK who wear white robes or the Dominican KKK? Or the Benedictines? I always get who wears all-white and who all-black confused. Then there are those sneaky Cistercians who wear white and black! What do they have to say for themselves? Robes are a real micro-aggression. The bad guy in Old Times movies always wears a robe. Probably in the Harry Potter movies also. How can one be in a Safe Place if you can see someone wearing a robe?

    Replies: @Percy Gryce, @Big Bill, @Dr. X, @markflag, @Tony, @Expletive Deleted

    Whichever group Father McPeak represents, it is plainly insensitive to the needs and concerns of a modern multicultural society. Wearing clothes that trigger students is inexcusable.

    The assistant under-dean of the Deanery of Diversity will be in contact with the Pope. Until he attends a sensitivity and consciousness raising seminar, members of his organization will not be permitted on campus.

  41. The Obama coalition can stay together only by stoking resentment—and, indeed, hatred—of straight white men.

    True. But those outside the Obama coalition are not exempt. Stoking resentment – and, indeed, hatred – of blacks, browns and feminists is part of the formula for keeping the 99 percent divided and therefore impotent.

    btw. Zimmerman is not this white boy’s role model. I can’t tell you what I think of him on Sailer’s blog. But for starters I can tell you he is not a white guy.

    • Replies: @Discard
    @WorkingClass

    You are mistaken. Immigration and affirmative action divide the working class, not resentment of immigration and affirmative action. Rather than stoking resentment of Blacks, Mexicans, and feminists, the one percent does all it can to suppress that resentment.

    Replies: @ben tillman

  42. @John Derbyshire
    @Jefferson

    There actually are rednecks here on Long Island. If you head out east and keep heading, there's a sort of social trough between the outer-outer suburbs of NYC and the Richistan of the Hamptons. Lotsa bait'n'tackle shops, pickup trucks, skinny guys with pony tails and tats. If someone wants to re-shoot Deliverance I can recommend some Long Island locations.

    My nearest skeet range is in Yaphank.

    Replies: @slumber_j, @stillCARealist, @Crawfurdmuir, @Jefferson

    The porter in my Manhattan apartment building recommended the Yaphank range to me just yesterday. He went last weekend and loved it, and he has ultra-reliable opinions in these matters. I need to get out there.

  43. I’d like to know how Circle K has gotten away with practically using the name Klu Klux Klan for so long.

  44. Don’t SJWs find Catholic priests just as terrifying as Klanspersons anyway? Why draw a distinction?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Harry Baldwin

    "Don’t SJWs find Catholic priests just as terrifying as Klanspersons anyway? Why draw a distinction?"

    I was going to say. A priest walking through campus, with his hate-beads and his hate-prayer-book? Triggering.

  45. Not sure if I’ve told this story here, but in 1999 I went as a chaperone with a group of high school kids to Alex Haley’s farm in Tennessee as part of a summer program the School District of Philadelphia was organizing, where high school kids would be trained to act as tutors for elementary kids for summer school. I had been organizing some similar, smaller-scale tutoring programs for Americorps, which I guess is how I got the gig ( https://spottedtoad.wordpress.com/2016/01/28/philadelphia-stories/ ).
    Haley’s “farm”, which is now a fancy training camp, looks like a beautiful liberal arts college without the dorms, and the Southern food was great. The kids were pretty well-behaved, too: I had a mostly-Hispanic crew from Kensington, and they had obviously been chosen to be the kind of poor 16-year-olds you could take on a plane and have stay in a hotel without havoc breaking loose; some of the other kids were a bit more adventurous, and me and the other chaperone camped out in the hall and turned back a few boys making a run for the girls’ rooms in the middle of the night; there was also one graffiti incident, but otherwise pretty uneventful.

    What was more interesting was the design of the training itself, which had zero to do with how you help a seven year old learn to read, or whatever they were going to be doing that summer, but had a lot of I-Stevey elements in it, partly the mesmeric focus on the Civil Rights movement (the theme was somehow that these kids were going to be running “Freedom Schools” through their tutoring, analogous to the 1964 Freedom Summer), partly the insistence on Afrocentric elements (there was a Swahili call-and-response with hand gestures the kids resolutely refused to do), in spite of a good portion of the kids being Hispanic and not particularly African-affiliated, but mostly because the trainers kept bringing up the KKK. It was a way of frightening the kids, who mostly hadn’t been out of Philly, into not wandering off (“This part of Tennessee is a national center for the KKK, and we know for a fact that there have been rallies just a mile from this farm,”) as well as an all-purpose historical explanatory tool.

    It was a fun time- great biscuits and gravy, as I said, and we watched a good part of Eyes on the Prize, which in spite of how done-to-death the Civil Rights movement is in our consciousness, is a really impressive set of documentaries. But I don’t think I understood until that trip how much people love love love talking about race and racism, probably because it’s more fun than talking about the more complicated things you have to do tomorrow.

    • Replies: @Spotted Toad
    @Spotted Toad

    FWIW, apparently my experience was a relatively early incarnation of one of the Children Defense Fund's current programs. (Which makes me wonder if the lady yelling at us because of the kid who graffitied his tag onto a wooden bench was Marian Wright Edelman.) Apparently, they do the Haley Farm curriculum with college kids and graduates rather than on high schoolers, or maybe we were just an abortive experiment. I'd guess the warnings about the Klan continues:

    http://www.childrensdefense.org/programs/freedomschools/

  46. Luckily, the poor friar only managed to scare a few SJW idiots. Thank God he wasn’t assaulted by the friendly local BLM chapter.

  47. @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    Speaking of disco groups like K.C. and the Sunshine Band, I was just now reading up on Chic (Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edwards), who were huge right after K.C. in the late 1970s ("Le Freak" and "Good Times"). Chic was very influential on the first generation of rappers (e.g., the first Top 40 rap hit in the 1970s, the Sugarhill Gang's "Rapper's Delight," lifts Chic's "Good Times" riff; and the 1980 #1 rap hit by Blondie, "Rapture," also uses "Good Times," while Queen's 1980 #1 quasi-rap hit "Another One Bites the Dust" lifts the bassline).

    But back in the late 1970s I always thought Chic sounded kind of New Wave as well sounding disco. Listening to the KC (two white guys and a bunch of black session musicians) from the mid-1970s, I can hear that Chic was doing something similar to KC in the late 1970s, but their guitar sound was janglier and more alien, kind of like what Johnny Rotten's PIL was doing in the late 1970s and that U2 perfected in 1981.

    And sure enough, it turns out that the first time Rodgers ever heard anybody rapping, in late 1978, it was at a NYC show that he had been invited to by ... Deborah Harry and Chris Stein, the wife-husband leaders of the New Wave band Blondie. So the fact that Blondie had the first #1 rap hit turns out to make all sorts of sense.

    Soon after Chic played in a show with Blondie and the Clash, who were living in New York in the second half of 1979, and the Clash released their own rap song in late 1980, "Magnificent Seven." (I wouldn't be surprised if there was some direct connection to Talking Heads, who released their own rap song in 1980, "Crosseyed & Painless.")

    Reading up on Nile Rodgers, I see that his stepfather was a Jewish beatnik drug addict in NYC. So it's not surprising that black rap and white new wave were closely linked 35 years ago.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @anonymous-antimarxist, @E. Rekshun, @Discard

    First of all Chic and KC and the Sunshine Band were just so much better than the rest of late 70’s disco dreg.

    Remember about 1998 going to a bar in Chicago after a rollerblading event and dancing with a young twentysomething who thought “Boogie Shoes” from the Boogie Nights soundtrack was a new song. I had to tell her she was not born yet when it first came out.

    There have been several documentaries on the “Death of Disco” and the rise of rap. In fact the UNSUNG series on the ONE network, a black entertainment network has episodes on both Chic and The Sugar Hill Gang.

    Rogers/Edwards wrote the song “Le Freak” which started out as “F**K Off” because they increasingly had trouble getting into the very “velvet rope” Manhattan discos where they both had played previously or their records were hits.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Freak

    According to Rogers, it was Disco’s increasing elitism and overt gayness that killed the genre, not necessarily racism, homophobia or even Steve Dahl. Early rappers simply learned to cater to young people who could not afford, or were not stylish enough, to get into the hottest clubs.

    Meanwhile Mutt Lange helped AC/DC to a huge hit with “You Shook Me All Night Long” by giving it a beat even uncoordinated white guys who thought disco was for fags could manage enough liquid courage to ask a girl to dance to.

    Chic’s repertoire, especially “Good Times” along with Tony Thompson’s beats are pretty much rap sampling staples to this day.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    "Meanwhile Mutt Lange helped AC/DC to a huge hit with “You Shook Me All Night Long” by giving it a beat even uncoordinated white guys who thought disco was for fags could manage enough liquid courage to ask a girl to dance to."

    There is a film called "Everybody Wants Some", which takes place in 1980. A group of college friends go to a disco club called "The Sound Machine" and than later they call to a punk rock show.

    The women at the disco on average were way more attractive than the women at the punk rock concert. If I was a Baby Boomer during the 1970s/early 1980s looking to get laid, I would be frequenting the disco clubs quite often. The women at the discos looked more traditionally feminine and looked like they have better hygienes than the women at the punk rock concert.

    Replies: @Discard, @flyingtiger

  48. There is a Capuchin Soup Kitchen here in Detroit and they have an extraordinary ministry, including the Venerable Father Solanus Casey Center. The full name of the Order is the Capuchin Franciscan Province of St. Joseph, and they wear the traditional habit of St. Francis: a simple brown robe with hood, a cord around the waist, and sandals.

    A few years ago my wife and I attended a fundraiser for the Capuchins with another couple who are longtime, very good friends of ours. Very soon after arriving, my friend’s wife said, “Why are all of these guys dressed up like Obi Wan Kenobi?”

    • Replies: @Bill
    @Steve from Detroit


    Very soon after arriving, my friend’s wife said, “Why are all of these guys dressed up like Obi Wan Kenobi?”
     
    Kind of like the presumably apocryphal story of the college English student who says "I don't see what's so great about the writing in Hamlet, it's just a bunch of cliches strung together."
  49. Don’t forget the Burning Black Churches, another wave of anti-black violence which started before a (Clinton) election cycle and ended just after it.

    The KKK sure does have bad timing.

  50. What’s the best strategy for defeating all this crazy nonsense? How are we to respond to all those SJW-types who are so quick to accuse their opponents of being racists, Islamophobes and the like? How about we just say, “Don’t be a moron.”

    • Replies: @Thomas Fuller
    @Luke Lea

    Agreeing with them is pretty disarming. Fun, too, when steam emerges from their ears and their eyeballs start revolving in the horizontal plane.

  51. Tough shit for all the wussie boys and girls on campus. The nuns who taught me in grammar school were as fearsome as the KKK, and they threatened you with eternal damnation. The Sisters of St. Joseph, my Patron Saint, wore black from head to toe, a head piece that covered all but their face, a knotted rope around their waist and a mile of rosary beads, the rattle of which acted as an early warning system that Sister Whomever was swooping down on you. Heaven help these frightened babies

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Buffalo Joe

    I'm sure your nuns were like the Sisters of St. Joseph who taught me. That discipline in the classroom is necessary to learning was not a bug, but a feature.

    Contrary to the current view, they weren't ogres. They dealt with this particular class clown with a sort of amused tolerance. It didn't hurt that I was a good student.

    I still feel like Jake and Elwood when I'm around nuns:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqkowVU5mZI

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  52. On a related note, I saw this article linked to earlier this week on twitter:

    https://t.co/qY9CLizPew

    The author predicts precisely- in 1969 -the outcome of letting in a large number of intellectually unprepared students into elite universities. Their resentment of the majority would only increase as their own inadequacy became obvious.

  53. @anonymous
    Is it the Franciscan KKK who wear white robes or the Dominican KKK? Or the Benedictines? I always get who wears all-white and who all-black confused. Then there are those sneaky Cistercians who wear white and black! What do they have to say for themselves? Robes are a real micro-aggression. The bad guy in Old Times movies always wears a robe. Probably in the Harry Potter movies also. How can one be in a Safe Place if you can see someone wearing a robe?

    Replies: @Percy Gryce, @Big Bill, @Dr. X, @markflag, @Tony, @Expletive Deleted

    Is it the Franciscan KKK who wear white robes or the Dominican KKK?

    Franciscans wear either brown or black, depending on the order.

  54. @Twinkie
    @Anonymous


    Indiana University should be forced to hire a director of Catholic outreach and all incoming freshman need courses in Cathlo-American Studies to address their Protestant privilege.
     
    Do not, I repeat, do not give them any ideas. They will hire - GASP! - Jesuits and call it a day.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Twinkie, I am the product of a Jesuit College education and some of my friends got a twofer with Jesuit Prep. They do walk to the beat of a different drum, but some of them have remarkable life stories to tell. One of the Jesuits at my college had been a Marine Combat pilot before following his calling.

  55. @Harry Baldwin
    Don't SJWs find Catholic priests just as terrifying as Klanspersons anyway? Why draw a distinction?

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    “Don’t SJWs find Catholic priests just as terrifying as Klanspersons anyway? Why draw a distinction?”

    I was going to say. A priest walking through campus, with his hate-beads and his hate-prayer-book? Triggering.

  56. Hard not to laugh at “Klansmember (sic).”

    We wouldn’t want to gender offend one of these racist bastards, would we?

    Good call. “Klansperson” will definitely be somewhere on America’s epitaph.

    But nobody would be that cruel.

    LOL, I see what you did there.

    This will only start to end when people realize the power of propaganda when applied to young minds.

    Yep. The media’s going to need destroying, or a counter-march through the institutions. No way ’round it.

    Let’s just say that some people are easily spooked.

    The whole thing describes children at play. We all remember being 10 and having moments like this, if you blur the details.

    Derb, you should try northern California. I never saw so many rednecks as I did when I moved to northern California. Coming from South Carolina, it was a real culture shock.

  57. The media was trying desperately to make hatred of Trump the new “glue” a few weeks back, this seems to have failed.

  58. It’s time to completely defund all non STM fields at public universities for a generation. Starve out the leftist trash. In 25 years we can start over with a fresh slate.

  59. Sam says:

    Sailer’s theory that the rich simply use social issues to deflect the left and right away from social issues has been confirmed by the work of popular academic Martin Gilens. Sailer’s colleague at Taki, David Cole wrote a great piece on this which should be of some interest:

    Martin Gilens is a political-science professor at Princeton. Over the course of the past decade, he has authored and coauthored several books and papers in which he argues that the U.S. is essentially an oligarchy. We are controlled by the moneymen, the “1%,” and any claim that our “democracy” is participatory or inclusive is illusory. “Affluence and influence”—that’s what makes the U.S. economic system go ’round. The deck is stacked, and the “liddle peeple” are powerless.

    Buried deep inside Gilens’ books and position papers is an interesting critique of the left…buried so deep that apparently none of Gilens’ leftist fawners ever found it (in covering Gilens’ work, liberal journos not only buried the lede, they sealed it in a sarcophagus). According to Gilens’ research, those dastardly oligarchs, those enemies of the 99%, are overwhelmingly liberal on issues such as abortion, gay rights, race, and immigration. In fact, the affluent are far more “progressive” than the great unwashed whose voices they’ve muted and whose influence they’ve suppressed. Gilens found that the superrich in general oppose any policies based upon “traditional morality” (Gilens uses school prayer as an example of an issue in which the oligarchs find themselves severely at odds with the poor).

    Gilens’ conclusion is that if the poor were actually allowed a voice in national politics, it would very likely spell defeat for liberals on their favorite social issues:

    The disproportionate influence of the affluent does not always move policy in a conservative direction. On moral and religious issues, the well off tend to be more liberal than the poor. More equal representation (of the poor) would consequently lead to greater restrictions on abortion, such as banning RU-486. There would also be tighter limits on stem cell research and more support for school prayer.

    Gilens’ research reflects the conclusions of Boston University political scientist John Gerring, who found that, because of the desires of the super-wealthy, “the Democratic agenda has shifted away from general social welfare to policies that target ascriptive identities of race, ethnicity, gender, and sexual orientation.” The takeaway? The “oligarchs” have pushed to make noneconomic “social justice” issues (especially abortion, race, and gender) the party’s primary focus, at the expense of economic policies that are unpopular among the affluent. Whether they know it or not, leftists are actually on the same side as the 1% on the social issues that have come to dominate the Democrat agenda.

    I put a question directly to Professor Gilens:

    Do you think progressives have done their cause a disservice by making abortion a litmus-test issue? Do you think the heavy and uncompromising focus on abortion rights has in a way helped the affluent and made it more difficult for low- and middle-income Americans to have equality of influence? Is it possible that by remaining uncompromising on abortion rights, the Democratic leaders have made it easier to shift to a less radical position economically without getting in too much trouble with their base?

    “David, that’s a sensible notion,” he replied.

    http://takimag.com/article/aborting_the_working_class_david_cole/print#axzz44zyk9uHo

    • Replies: @RamonaQ
    @Sam

    It's been apparent ever since Leftism has been around that it has very little appeal to the working and middle classes. Hence the use of cultural Marxism (aka identity politics) to rile up all sorts of aggrieved losers into voting for the left and essentially voting against the working class. Of course they really hit the jackpot with mass 3rd world immigration. An almost infinite supply of aggrieved losers who will bludgeon the indigenous working class into defeat for once and for all.

    Leftism was never about the working class. It was always a social engineering project by middle and upper class intellectuals who think they deserve to rule by virtue of their "intellectualism". It's no coincidence that almost all commies are upper and middle class.

    , @rod1963
    @Sam

    The “oligarchs” have pushed to make noneconomic “social justice” issues (especially abortion, race, and gender) the party’s primary focus, at the expense of economic policies that are unpopular among the affluent.

    Very true, BTW the GOP also employs wedge or hot button social issues(abortion, Guns and Gays) to keep their base from noticing the economic rape they're getting at the hands of the people they elect and the upper classes.

    Divide and conquer. It's been the strategy of choice by the elite since Rome to keep power.

    I also agree with those who believe we don't have two distinct political parties - they are just a facade for the uniparty or ruling class that calls the shots behind the scenes. Everything is just a show for us.

    IMO both the bible believing white gun owner and the white college kid are both being conned by the uniparty into hating each others guts. Because the elites rightfully fear what will happen to them if the public ever woke up.

    This is why every populist movement gets co-opted ASAP. Whether it's the Tea Party or OWS, the elite have to corrupt any form of popular expression so they can retain their positions of power and wealth.

  60. I don’t like priests wearing those weird beards. It’s undignified. The guy in the picture looks like some dickhead in a Halloween costume.

  61. @Luke Lea
    What's the best strategy for defeating all this crazy nonsense? How are we to respond to all those SJW-types who are so quick to accuse their opponents of being racists, Islamophobes and the like? How about we just say, "Don't be a moron."

    Replies: @Thomas Fuller

    Agreeing with them is pretty disarming. Fun, too, when steam emerges from their ears and their eyeballs start revolving in the horizontal plane.

  62. Profiling! They profiled a white guy in a white robe.

    If he’d been a black thug in a hoodie, reported as suspicious, there would be outrage and calls for sensitivity seminars.

    Most people are stupid. That’s all.

  63. @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    Speaking of disco groups like K.C. and the Sunshine Band, I was just now reading up on Chic (Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edwards), who were huge right after K.C. in the late 1970s ("Le Freak" and "Good Times"). Chic was very influential on the first generation of rappers (e.g., the first Top 40 rap hit in the 1970s, the Sugarhill Gang's "Rapper's Delight," lifts Chic's "Good Times" riff; and the 1980 #1 rap hit by Blondie, "Rapture," also uses "Good Times," while Queen's 1980 #1 quasi-rap hit "Another One Bites the Dust" lifts the bassline).

    But back in the late 1970s I always thought Chic sounded kind of New Wave as well sounding disco. Listening to the KC (two white guys and a bunch of black session musicians) from the mid-1970s, I can hear that Chic was doing something similar to KC in the late 1970s, but their guitar sound was janglier and more alien, kind of like what Johnny Rotten's PIL was doing in the late 1970s and that U2 perfected in 1981.

    And sure enough, it turns out that the first time Rodgers ever heard anybody rapping, in late 1978, it was at a NYC show that he had been invited to by ... Deborah Harry and Chris Stein, the wife-husband leaders of the New Wave band Blondie. So the fact that Blondie had the first #1 rap hit turns out to make all sorts of sense.

    Soon after Chic played in a show with Blondie and the Clash, who were living in New York in the second half of 1979, and the Clash released their own rap song in late 1980, "Magnificent Seven." (I wouldn't be surprised if there was some direct connection to Talking Heads, who released their own rap song in 1980, "Crosseyed & Painless.")

    Reading up on Nile Rodgers, I see that his stepfather was a Jewish beatnik drug addict in NYC. So it's not surprising that black rap and white new wave were closely linked 35 years ago.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @anonymous-antimarxist, @E. Rekshun, @Discard

    Nile Rodgers

    I walked right by Nile Rogers at the Denver International Airport last summer. He was smiling and carrying a guitar case.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @E. Rekshun

    I wonder how much money the 1960 Stratocaster in that case has earned Nile Rodgers over the years?

    It turns out somebody else has wondered that:

    "The New Musical Express reports that at one time an estimate of the value of the music played through the instrument was $2 billion.[4]"

    I imagine he only pocketed a few percent of that, but he has reasons to smile.

  64. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    FTA:

    Then my residents, terrified, come running to me, saying yeah the report must be true
     
    Let's just say that some people are easily spooked.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Hey! You can’t say “spooked”! Dats raaaaacist!

  65. @Leftist conservative
    kids these days have been subjected to years of propaganda, propaganda honing their skills at spotting people and ideas that might hurt corporate profits.

    These kids, their minds molded by propaganda since youth, are like weapons, ready to assail the enemy at any moment....wound up by years of propaganda, ready to serve the corporations.

    This will only start to end when people realize the power of propaganda when applied to young minds.

    Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy, @Corvinus

    “kids these days have been subjected to years of propaganda, propaganda honing their skills at spotting people and ideas that might hurt corporate profits.”

    So, the radical conservative propaganda is much preferred regarding the facts of life of “die”versity and the pervasive threat of Sharia law creeping into mainstream American society. Listen, SOME kids have drunk the SJW kool-aid, Does not the power of propaganda have power over the “adults of the room”, or are you too blinded by your own confirmation biases?

  66. @Dirk Dagger
    The RA seems like a real Drama Queen.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Kylie

    I hope this incident comes back to haunt him. I hope all his future potential employers say “wow, there is no way a guy this gullible and hyper-PC would be a net benefit to our organization.”

    I know it won’t come back to haunt him, but I hope it does.

  67. @OsRazor
    The Kkkrazy Glue is relevant to the 39 percent of Whites who voted for Obama who comprised 53 percent of the fringe coalition supporting Obama. I don't think the NAMs and asians need a lot of incentive or affirmation to challenge Normal America. Too given how broadly White is defined in the US you've got a large percentage of non smoking Europeans in the 39 percent above. They too don't need KKKrazy Glue to be hostile to Normal America.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “The Kkkrazy Glue is relevant to the 39 percent of Whites who voted for Obama who comprised 53 percent of the fringe coalition supporting Obama.”

    Do you have a source for this statistic?

    Assuming that the 39% of whites who supported Obama are the “fringe”, how do you propose to indoctrinate them, I mean, properly educate them, to purge them from the years of liberal propaganda. Moreover, are these white people you refer to “anti-white”? What solutions are you able to get these people back into the fold as “normal Americans”?

    • Replies: @Discard
    @Corvinus

    Any White who claims to support diversity should be put in a labor camp that is no more than 25% White. After ten years, when (if?) they come out, they will not be normal Americans, as they forfeit that privilege when they chose multi-cultism. But they will be suited to do the work that is too risky for chattel slaves.

  68. @Steve Sailer
    @Shaq

    Shouldn't it be "Klansperson?" Isn't "member" kind of a sexist microaggression?

    Replies: @BlueSwedeShoes, @Corvinus, @let it burn, @blah blah blah, @duncsbaby

    From the Brietbart link…

    “This is what happens when there is miscommunication,” Gill wrote. “So what happened tonight goes like this: a person saw white robes and what looked to them like a weapon, got scared (rightfully so), warned people, warned staff, which in turn caused me to warn my residents because I need to look out for my residents, which in turn made it spread.”

    [Sigh] So, in other words, like any situation, some people see something, make an assumption, and, in today’s information age, go viral with that assumption, which turns out to a complete misunderstanding. No different than the “truth” narratives and interpretations by the vaunted Coalition of the Fringes Right, consisting of white nationalists and their race baiter toadies, PUA’s like Roissy and the boyzzz at Return Of Kings, radical Tea Partiers, and of course your garden variety John Derbyshires of the world.

    Liberals have their nutjobs, and conservatives have their crazies. Those who say, regardless of ideology, that “one side has more than the other” is way off base. How does one even measure it? What criteria is involved to thoroughly demonstrate that they are more fringe groups on the left than on the right, or vice versa?

    Not ALL, or even the majority, of liberals or conservatives fit the description of being radical lunatics. Apparently, you have yet to receive the memo.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus, I received the memo, but I still see much more agitation from the left than from the right, And by the way, most posters here lean right, unless you haven't noticed. On the left you have all the alphabet nutjobs, your term, LGBTQ, ACLU,BLM,SPLC, RAZA etc. Don't respond, I am going to watch the Masters, at least until the BLM protests the name of my favorite golf tournament. Have a nice day.

    , @ben tillman
    @Corvinus


    What criteria is involved to thoroughly demonstrate that they are more fringe groups on the left than on the right, or vice versa?
     
    Are.
    , @Discard
    @Corvinus

    Any White who supports affirmative action or non-White immigration is a radical lunatic. Their words are so out of sync with both their present deeds and their long term self interest, that sanity must be ruled out.

  69. @Percy Gryce
    @anonymous


    Is it the Franciscan KKK who wear white robes or the Dominican KKK? Or the Benedictines? I always get who wears all-white and who all-black confused. Then there are those sneaky Cistercians who wear white and black!
     
    Gray Friars = Franciscans (because their habits were originally of undyed wool)
    Black Friars = Dominicans (because their cappa magna is black, but their habits are white--the priest in this story is a Dominican)
    White Friars = Carmelites (although their habits these days are usually brown)

    White Canons = Norbertines
    Black Canons = Augustinians

    Black Monks = Benedictines
    White Monks = Cistercians

    This all just used to be common knowledge as part of Western civilization. But now we have the children of the generation that shouted "Hey, hey, ho, ho, Western Civ has got to go." And so now they live in fear of what they don't know.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Bill, @Anonymous

    It’s as much the fault of the earthly leadership of the Church as anyone else’s though. Clerical and religious dress has been de facto unregulated since the Council.

  70. @Thrasymachus
    I went into a church in Latin America during a service once. It seemed to be run by Dominicans. I don't know that much Spanish, but the priest seemed to be delivering a compelling sermon, much better than the crap you usually hear in the US. Another was doing confession, during the service, which I though was weird, and he was carrying on a conversation with the penitent.

    People here are so f***ing stupid. They don't know anything about life, about the world, about anything other than TV.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Bill

    Confession during Mass used to be quite common. The idea that you are supposed to “pay attention,” follow along, understand the words being spoken, and etc is a consequence of the new Mass (i.e. it’s a 1970s and after thing). When it was in Latin, few people followed along with the words. You prayed the Rosary. You went to Confession. Maybe you prayed the Psalms or did some other devotion. You paid attention during the Consecration, since that was when the real action was occurring (this is what the bells are for). You paid attention during the sermon, if there was one.

    The idea that you are supposed to get something, in a direct linguistic way, out of the word-strings emerging from the Celebrant’s mouth is Protestant. The readings from the Bible used to be in Latin only, for example. Our direct, minute to minute, understanding is not important to the Mass. Attending Mass may be good for us, but we are not essential to it or even really a part of it. The Mass happens even if nobody shows up. The Mass is there for the priest to offer propitiatory sacrifice to God, like at the Temple in Judaism.

    If you go back in time far enough, most of the action at Mass happens behind screens so you often can’t even see what is going on. The removal of rood screens after the Council of Trent was an earlier example of the Church Protestantizing its Mass. The Church has been doubling down on this idea of defeating the Protties by becoming more like them for a long, long time.

    It’s kind of funny. Even the most apparently rock-ribbed, crazed, traditionalist reactionaries are just defending the liberalism of a past time.

    • Replies: @utu
    @Bill

    "Even the most apparently rock-ribbed, crazed, traditionalist reactionaries are just defending the liberalism of a past time."

    Chesterton: "The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Bill

    Bill, Very nice and informative comment. I attend Mass 6 days a week, and have for years. I collect my thoughts, pray my prayers and only pay attention at the Consecration. I took four years of Latin and loved it. I miss the Mass in Latin, but that's just my opinion.

    Replies: @Bill, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Brutusale

  71. @Steve Sailer
    @Shaq

    Shouldn't it be "Klansperson?" Isn't "member" kind of a sexist microaggression?

    Replies: @BlueSwedeShoes, @Corvinus, @let it burn, @blah blah blah, @duncsbaby

    @Shouldn’t it be “Klansperson?” Isn’t “member” kind of a sexist microaggression?

    “Klansperson” has “person” in it. “Person” has “son” in it. Son = male, therefore sexist. Please subsitute “Perthing” for “Person”. Therefore “Klansperson” should be “Klansperthing”.

    Thank you,

    The Editorial Staff.

  72. @Jefferson
    A Black guy on The Huffington Post blames White people for his mom passing away from lung cancer.

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/9624712

    It looks like something straight out of The Onion. Leftism in the 21st Century has really turned into a parody, an anti-White parody.

    Replies: @Warner

    He’s so right. African life expectancy is so low and here is his Mom living into her 60s even after smoking. And he’s also very alive in a white society whole blacks all over Africa are dead today. Maybe he should kill himself to show solidarity with the less fortunate in Africa who do not benefit from inheriting the privileges of living in a white country.

  73. Just gotta love the detail of turning a rosary into a whip.

    Ideology as hallucinogen. One can see anything one wants to see.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @candid_observer

    Candid, Actually the monks and most nuns wore a knotted cord around their waist, a symbol of Christ's suffering. The Rosary hung at their side and not around their waists. But otherwise I totally agree with you.

    , @Dr. X
    @candid_observer


    Just gotta love the detail of turning a rosary into a whip.
     
    It's not a rosary, it's a rope that's used as a kind of belt. I went to a Franciscan high school where the friars would beat the hell out of you if you stepped out of line... and yes, they did actually whip kids with their ropes!

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  74. Just gotta love the detail of turning a rosary into a whip.

    Ideology as hallucinogen. One can see anything one wants to see.

    Low regard for the truth and high preference for hysteria probably have strong genetic factors.

    “He Klan! He got a whip!”

    I can hear it now…

  75. @Glaivester
    Good thing she wasn't at the Sevilla Easter Procession in Spain.

    Replies: @Shaq, @Crawfurdmuir

    Didn’t the Tom Hanks character in the Da Vinci code use an example of the procession as a reflection of symbolism in various cultures? I think the swastika was in there, too.

  76. @Steve Sailer
    @Shaq

    Shouldn't it be "Klansperson?" Isn't "member" kind of a sexist microaggression?

    Replies: @BlueSwedeShoes, @Corvinus, @let it burn, @blah blah blah, @duncsbaby

    I believe “person of Klanness” is the preferred term.

  77. utu says:
    @Bill
    @Thrasymachus

    Confession during Mass used to be quite common. The idea that you are supposed to "pay attention," follow along, understand the words being spoken, and etc is a consequence of the new Mass (i.e. it's a 1970s and after thing). When it was in Latin, few people followed along with the words. You prayed the Rosary. You went to Confession. Maybe you prayed the Psalms or did some other devotion. You paid attention during the Consecration, since that was when the real action was occurring (this is what the bells are for). You paid attention during the sermon, if there was one.

    The idea that you are supposed to get something, in a direct linguistic way, out of the word-strings emerging from the Celebrant's mouth is Protestant. The readings from the Bible used to be in Latin only, for example. Our direct, minute to minute, understanding is not important to the Mass. Attending Mass may be good for us, but we are not essential to it or even really a part of it. The Mass happens even if nobody shows up. The Mass is there for the priest to offer propitiatory sacrifice to God, like at the Temple in Judaism.

    If you go back in time far enough, most of the action at Mass happens behind screens so you often can't even see what is going on. The removal of rood screens after the Council of Trent was an earlier example of the Church Protestantizing its Mass. The Church has been doubling down on this idea of defeating the Protties by becoming more like them for a long, long time.

    It's kind of funny. Even the most apparently rock-ribbed, crazed, traditionalist reactionaries are just defending the liberalism of a past time.

    Replies: @utu, @Buffalo Joe

    “Even the most apparently rock-ribbed, crazed, traditionalist reactionaries are just defending the liberalism of a past time.”

    Chesterton: “The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected.”

  78. @Sam
    Sailer's theory that the rich simply use social issues to deflect the left and right away from social issues has been confirmed by the work of popular academic Martin Gilens. Sailer's colleague at Taki, David Cole wrote a great piece on this which should be of some interest:

    Martin Gilens is a political-science professor at Princeton. Over the course of the past decade, he has authored and coauthored several books and papers in which he argues that the U.S. is essentially an oligarchy. We are controlled by the moneymen, the “1%,” and any claim that our “democracy” is participatory or inclusive is illusory. “Affluence and influence”—that’s what makes the U.S. economic system go ’round. The deck is stacked, and the “liddle peeple” are powerless.

    ...

    Buried deep inside Gilens’ books and position papers is an interesting critique of the left…buried so deep that apparently none of Gilens’ leftist fawners ever found it (in covering Gilens’ work, liberal journos not only buried the lede, they sealed it in a sarcophagus). According to Gilens’ research, those dastardly oligarchs, those enemies of the 99%, are overwhelmingly liberal on issues such as abortion, gay rights, race, and immigration. In fact, the affluent are far more “progressive” than the great unwashed whose voices they’ve muted and whose influence they’ve suppressed. Gilens found that the superrich in general oppose any policies based upon “traditional morality” (Gilens uses school prayer as an example of an issue in which the oligarchs find themselves severely at odds with the poor).

    Gilens’ conclusion is that if the poor were actually allowed a voice in national politics, it would very likely spell defeat for liberals on their favorite social issues:


    The disproportionate influence of the affluent does not always move policy in a conservative direction. On moral and religious issues, the well off tend to be more liberal than the poor. More equal representation (of the poor) would consequently lead to greater restrictions on abortion, such as banning RU-486. There would also be tighter limits on stem cell research and more support for school prayer.
     
    Gilens’ research reflects the conclusions of Boston University political scientist John Gerring, who found that, because of the desires of the super-wealthy, “the Democratic agenda has shifted away from general social welfare to policies that target ascriptive identities of race, ethnicity, gender, and sexual orientation.” The takeaway? The “oligarchs” have pushed to make noneconomic “social justice” issues (especially abortion, race, and gender) the party’s primary focus, at the expense of economic policies that are unpopular among the affluent. Whether they know it or not, leftists are actually on the same side as the 1% on the social issues that have come to dominate the Democrat agenda.

    I put a question directly to Professor Gilens:

    Do you think progressives have done their cause a disservice by making abortion a litmus-test issue? Do you think the heavy and uncompromising focus on abortion rights has in a way helped the affluent and made it more difficult for low- and middle-income Americans to have equality of influence? Is it possible that by remaining uncompromising on abortion rights, the Democratic leaders have made it easier to shift to a less radical position economically without getting in too much trouble with their base?

    “David, that’s a sensible notion,” he replied.

     

    http://takimag.com/article/aborting_the_working_class_david_cole/print#axzz44zyk9uHo

    Replies: @RamonaQ, @rod1963

    It’s been apparent ever since Leftism has been around that it has very little appeal to the working and middle classes. Hence the use of cultural Marxism (aka identity politics) to rile up all sorts of aggrieved losers into voting for the left and essentially voting against the working class. Of course they really hit the jackpot with mass 3rd world immigration. An almost infinite supply of aggrieved losers who will bludgeon the indigenous working class into defeat for once and for all.

    Leftism was never about the working class. It was always a social engineering project by middle and upper class intellectuals who think they deserve to rule by virtue of their “intellectualism”. It’s no coincidence that almost all commies are upper and middle class.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  79. @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    From the Brietbart link…

    “This is what happens when there is miscommunication,” Gill wrote. “So what happened tonight goes like this: a person saw white robes and what looked to them like a weapon, got scared (rightfully so), warned people, warned staff, which in turn caused me to warn my residents because I need to look out for my residents, which in turn made it spread.”

    [Sigh] So, in other words, like any situation, some people see something, make an assumption, and, in today’s information age, go viral with that assumption, which turns out to a complete misunderstanding. No different than the “truth” narratives and interpretations by the vaunted Coalition of the Fringes Right, consisting of white nationalists and their race baiter toadies, PUA’s like Roissy and the boyzzz at Return Of Kings, radical Tea Partiers, and of course your garden variety John Derbyshires of the world.

    Liberals have their nutjobs, and conservatives have their crazies. Those who say, regardless of ideology, that "one side has more than the other" is way off base. How does one even measure it? What criteria is involved to thoroughly demonstrate that they are more fringe groups on the left than on the right, or vice versa?

    Not ALL, or even the majority, of liberals or conservatives fit the description of being radical lunatics. Apparently, you have yet to receive the memo.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @ben tillman, @Discard

    Corvinus, I received the memo, but I still see much more agitation from the left than from the right, And by the way, most posters here lean right, unless you haven’t noticed. On the left you have all the alphabet nutjobs, your term, LGBTQ, ACLU,BLM,SPLC, RAZA etc. Don’t respond, I am going to watch the Masters, at least until the BLM protests the name of my favorite golf tournament. Have a nice day.

  80. @Bill
    @Thrasymachus

    Confession during Mass used to be quite common. The idea that you are supposed to "pay attention," follow along, understand the words being spoken, and etc is a consequence of the new Mass (i.e. it's a 1970s and after thing). When it was in Latin, few people followed along with the words. You prayed the Rosary. You went to Confession. Maybe you prayed the Psalms or did some other devotion. You paid attention during the Consecration, since that was when the real action was occurring (this is what the bells are for). You paid attention during the sermon, if there was one.

    The idea that you are supposed to get something, in a direct linguistic way, out of the word-strings emerging from the Celebrant's mouth is Protestant. The readings from the Bible used to be in Latin only, for example. Our direct, minute to minute, understanding is not important to the Mass. Attending Mass may be good for us, but we are not essential to it or even really a part of it. The Mass happens even if nobody shows up. The Mass is there for the priest to offer propitiatory sacrifice to God, like at the Temple in Judaism.

    If you go back in time far enough, most of the action at Mass happens behind screens so you often can't even see what is going on. The removal of rood screens after the Council of Trent was an earlier example of the Church Protestantizing its Mass. The Church has been doubling down on this idea of defeating the Protties by becoming more like them for a long, long time.

    It's kind of funny. Even the most apparently rock-ribbed, crazed, traditionalist reactionaries are just defending the liberalism of a past time.

    Replies: @utu, @Buffalo Joe

    Bill, Very nice and informative comment. I attend Mass 6 days a week, and have for years. I collect my thoughts, pray my prayers and only pay attention at the Consecration. I took four years of Latin and loved it. I miss the Mass in Latin, but that’s just my opinion.

    • Replies: @Bill
    @Buffalo Joe

    Thanks! I have fallen out of the practice of weekday Mass attendance. For a while, I worked across the street from a Cathedral. I used to go to Mass at lunch time most days.

    I loved that Mass. On the feast of Michael, Gabriel, and Raphael, the priest celebrating the Mass decided to give a brief homily. He began by explaining what feast day it was and then saying something like "It's hard for modern people to believe in angels: invisible, purely spiritual beings who fly around and somehow affect the real world without having bodies." He went on in that vein for a while. I was sure he was about to mutter something inane about how angels are a literary device representing the better angels of our nature and that we shouldn't think too badly of our ancestors for believing in them. But he eventually came around to something like "But you just have to deal with it. The Church says there are angels, so there are. And they fly around and do stuff. And St Michael especially kicks Satan's ass a lot." Not in those words, exactly. Wanted to high five the guy.

    The laypeople at the weekday Mass there were also awesome. Bunch of little old Italian, Irish, and Croatian ladies. They were too cool, with their prayer cards and rosaries and crossing themselves as they entered the church and never passing the poor box without putting something in it.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Rapparee

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Buffalo Joe


    I miss the Mass in Latin, but that’s just my opinion
     
    I am not a Roman Catholic, but I miss the Mass in Latin too.
    , @Brutusale
    @Buffalo Joe

    My dad left the church when Latin did. "Might as well be Protestants!" quoth he.

  81. @candid_observer
    Just gotta love the detail of turning a rosary into a whip.

    Ideology as hallucinogen. One can see anything one wants to see.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Dr. X

    Candid, Actually the monks and most nuns wore a knotted cord around their waist, a symbol of Christ’s suffering. The Rosary hung at their side and not around their waists. But otherwise I totally agree with you.

  82. @Dirk Dagger
    The RA seems like a real Drama Queen.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Kylie

    I see what you did there.

    From his LinkedIn profile: “This past semester I’ve built a community, help support fellow students academically and emotionally, and I’m there to help around the hall whether it be planning and hosting events, participating in meetings, running the center desk, or adding decorations to the hallways or bulletin boards.”

    Now he can add, “or warning students to stay indoors and stay safe when white-robed KKK Klansmembers, whether real or imaginary, are freely roaming the campus. ”

  83. The blame here really lies with social media. Ridiculous rumors on a college campus is hardly a new thing – but now people put it in writing on a website that people thousands of miles away can access, so the whole world can find it and mock it.

  84. @Spotted Toad
    Not sure if I've told this story here, but in 1999 I went as a chaperone with a group of high school kids to Alex Haley's farm in Tennessee as part of a summer program the School District of Philadelphia was organizing, where high school kids would be trained to act as tutors for elementary kids for summer school. I had been organizing some similar, smaller-scale tutoring programs for Americorps, which I guess is how I got the gig ( https://spottedtoad.wordpress.com/2016/01/28/philadelphia-stories/ ).
    Haley's "farm", which is now a fancy training camp, looks like a beautiful liberal arts college without the dorms, and the Southern food was great. The kids were pretty well-behaved, too: I had a mostly-Hispanic crew from Kensington, and they had obviously been chosen to be the kind of poor 16-year-olds you could take on a plane and have stay in a hotel without havoc breaking loose; some of the other kids were a bit more adventurous, and me and the other chaperone camped out in the hall and turned back a few boys making a run for the girls' rooms in the middle of the night; there was also one graffiti incident, but otherwise pretty uneventful.

    What was more interesting was the design of the training itself, which had zero to do with how you help a seven year old learn to read, or whatever they were going to be doing that summer, but had a lot of I-Stevey elements in it, partly the mesmeric focus on the Civil Rights movement (the theme was somehow that these kids were going to be running "Freedom Schools" through their tutoring, analogous to the 1964 Freedom Summer), partly the insistence on Afrocentric elements (there was a Swahili call-and-response with hand gestures the kids resolutely refused to do), in spite of a good portion of the kids being Hispanic and not particularly African-affiliated, but mostly because the trainers kept bringing up the KKK. It was a way of frightening the kids, who mostly hadn't been out of Philly, into not wandering off ("This part of Tennessee is a national center for the KKK, and we know for a fact that there have been rallies just a mile from this farm,") as well as an all-purpose historical explanatory tool.

    It was a fun time- great biscuits and gravy, as I said, and we watched a good part of Eyes on the Prize, which in spite of how done-to-death the Civil Rights movement is in our consciousness, is a really impressive set of documentaries. But I don't think I understood until that trip how much people love love love talking about race and racism, probably because it's more fun than talking about the more complicated things you have to do tomorrow.

    Replies: @Spotted Toad

    FWIW, apparently my experience was a relatively early incarnation of one of the Children Defense Fund’s current programs. (Which makes me wonder if the lady yelling at us because of the kid who graffitied his tag onto a wooden bench was Marian Wright Edelman.) Apparently, they do the Haley Farm curriculum with college kids and graduates rather than on high schoolers, or maybe we were just an abortive experiment. I’d guess the warnings about the Klan continues:

    http://www.childrensdefense.org/programs/freedomschools/

  85. @Sam
    Sailer's theory that the rich simply use social issues to deflect the left and right away from social issues has been confirmed by the work of popular academic Martin Gilens. Sailer's colleague at Taki, David Cole wrote a great piece on this which should be of some interest:

    Martin Gilens is a political-science professor at Princeton. Over the course of the past decade, he has authored and coauthored several books and papers in which he argues that the U.S. is essentially an oligarchy. We are controlled by the moneymen, the “1%,” and any claim that our “democracy” is participatory or inclusive is illusory. “Affluence and influence”—that’s what makes the U.S. economic system go ’round. The deck is stacked, and the “liddle peeple” are powerless.

    ...

    Buried deep inside Gilens’ books and position papers is an interesting critique of the left…buried so deep that apparently none of Gilens’ leftist fawners ever found it (in covering Gilens’ work, liberal journos not only buried the lede, they sealed it in a sarcophagus). According to Gilens’ research, those dastardly oligarchs, those enemies of the 99%, are overwhelmingly liberal on issues such as abortion, gay rights, race, and immigration. In fact, the affluent are far more “progressive” than the great unwashed whose voices they’ve muted and whose influence they’ve suppressed. Gilens found that the superrich in general oppose any policies based upon “traditional morality” (Gilens uses school prayer as an example of an issue in which the oligarchs find themselves severely at odds with the poor).

    Gilens’ conclusion is that if the poor were actually allowed a voice in national politics, it would very likely spell defeat for liberals on their favorite social issues:


    The disproportionate influence of the affluent does not always move policy in a conservative direction. On moral and religious issues, the well off tend to be more liberal than the poor. More equal representation (of the poor) would consequently lead to greater restrictions on abortion, such as banning RU-486. There would also be tighter limits on stem cell research and more support for school prayer.
     
    Gilens’ research reflects the conclusions of Boston University political scientist John Gerring, who found that, because of the desires of the super-wealthy, “the Democratic agenda has shifted away from general social welfare to policies that target ascriptive identities of race, ethnicity, gender, and sexual orientation.” The takeaway? The “oligarchs” have pushed to make noneconomic “social justice” issues (especially abortion, race, and gender) the party’s primary focus, at the expense of economic policies that are unpopular among the affluent. Whether they know it or not, leftists are actually on the same side as the 1% on the social issues that have come to dominate the Democrat agenda.

    I put a question directly to Professor Gilens:

    Do you think progressives have done their cause a disservice by making abortion a litmus-test issue? Do you think the heavy and uncompromising focus on abortion rights has in a way helped the affluent and made it more difficult for low- and middle-income Americans to have equality of influence? Is it possible that by remaining uncompromising on abortion rights, the Democratic leaders have made it easier to shift to a less radical position economically without getting in too much trouble with their base?

    “David, that’s a sensible notion,” he replied.

     

    http://takimag.com/article/aborting_the_working_class_david_cole/print#axzz44zyk9uHo

    Replies: @RamonaQ, @rod1963

    The “oligarchs” have pushed to make noneconomic “social justice” issues (especially abortion, race, and gender) the party’s primary focus, at the expense of economic policies that are unpopular among the affluent.

    Very true, BTW the GOP also employs wedge or hot button social issues(abortion, Guns and Gays) to keep their base from noticing the economic rape they’re getting at the hands of the people they elect and the upper classes.

    Divide and conquer. It’s been the strategy of choice by the elite since Rome to keep power.

    I also agree with those who believe we don’t have two distinct political parties – they are just a facade for the uniparty or ruling class that calls the shots behind the scenes. Everything is just a show for us.

    IMO both the bible believing white gun owner and the white college kid are both being conned by the uniparty into hating each others guts. Because the elites rightfully fear what will happen to them if the public ever woke up.

    This is why every populist movement gets co-opted ASAP. Whether it’s the Tea Party or OWS, the elite have to corrupt any form of popular expression so they can retain their positions of power and wealth.

    • Agree: Bill
  86. @anonymous-antimarxist
    @Steve Sailer

    First of all Chic and KC and the Sunshine Band were just so much better than the rest of late 70's disco dreg.

    Remember about 1998 going to a bar in Chicago after a rollerblading event and dancing with a young twentysomething who thought "Boogie Shoes" from the Boogie Nights soundtrack was a new song. I had to tell her she was not born yet when it first came out.

    There have been several documentaries on the "Death of Disco" and the rise of rap. In fact the UNSUNG series on the ONE network, a black entertainment network has episodes on both Chic and The Sugar Hill Gang.

    Rogers/Edwards wrote the song "Le Freak" which started out as "F**K Off" because they increasingly had trouble getting into the very "velvet rope" Manhattan discos where they both had played previously or their records were hits.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Freak

    According to Rogers, it was Disco's increasing elitism and overt gayness that killed the genre, not necessarily racism, homophobia or even Steve Dahl. Early rappers simply learned to cater to young people who could not afford, or were not stylish enough, to get into the hottest clubs.

    Meanwhile Mutt Lange helped AC/DC to a huge hit with "You Shook Me All Night Long" by giving it a beat even uncoordinated white guys who thought disco was for fags could manage enough liquid courage to ask a girl to dance to.

    Chic's repertoire, especially "Good Times" along with Tony Thompson's beats are pretty much rap sampling staples to this day.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Meanwhile Mutt Lange helped AC/DC to a huge hit with “You Shook Me All Night Long” by giving it a beat even uncoordinated white guys who thought disco was for fags could manage enough liquid courage to ask a girl to dance to.”

    There is a film called “Everybody Wants Some”, which takes place in 1980. A group of college friends go to a disco club called “The Sound Machine” and than later they call to a punk rock show.

    The women at the disco on average were way more attractive than the women at the punk rock concert. If I was a Baby Boomer during the 1970s/early 1980s looking to get laid, I would be frequenting the disco clubs quite often. The women at the discos looked more traditionally feminine and looked like they have better hygienes than the women at the punk rock concert.

    • Replies: @Discard
    @Jefferson

    There was a song back then called "Punk Rock Boys Like New Wave Girls". Nose rings are not feminine, unless you're a pig.

    , @flyingtiger
    @Jefferson

    My experience with disco was that it was about excluding who you did not want. The black clubs wanted only blacks, the Hispanic wanted Hispanics. The white clubs were run by gays, who would keep out straight white women.
    Then the new wave of Heavy metal music broke (AC/DC, Iron Maiden, Def Lepard, Judas Priest and others) That is where you could find the good babes.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Bill, @Brutusale

  87. @Dirk Dagger
    Dominicans wear white; Tomás de Torquemada is one of the most famous D-team friars.

    Replies: @Oscar Peterson

    If only he’d been in full uniform with the black cloak, this would never have happened! (Although would the blackness of the cloak be a cultural appropriation?)

  88. @Buffalo Joe
    @Bill

    Bill, Very nice and informative comment. I attend Mass 6 days a week, and have for years. I collect my thoughts, pray my prayers and only pay attention at the Consecration. I took four years of Latin and loved it. I miss the Mass in Latin, but that's just my opinion.

    Replies: @Bill, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Brutusale

    Thanks! I have fallen out of the practice of weekday Mass attendance. For a while, I worked across the street from a Cathedral. I used to go to Mass at lunch time most days.

    I loved that Mass. On the feast of Michael, Gabriel, and Raphael, the priest celebrating the Mass decided to give a brief homily. He began by explaining what feast day it was and then saying something like “It’s hard for modern people to believe in angels: invisible, purely spiritual beings who fly around and somehow affect the real world without having bodies.” He went on in that vein for a while. I was sure he was about to mutter something inane about how angels are a literary device representing the better angels of our nature and that we shouldn’t think too badly of our ancestors for believing in them. But he eventually came around to something like “But you just have to deal with it. The Church says there are angels, so there are. And they fly around and do stuff. And St Michael especially kicks Satan’s ass a lot.” Not in those words, exactly. Wanted to high five the guy.

    The laypeople at the weekday Mass there were also awesome. Bunch of little old Italian, Irish, and Croatian ladies. They were too cool, with their prayer cards and rosaries and crossing themselves as they entered the church and never passing the poor box without putting something in it.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Bill

    Bill. Not trying to convert anyone, but quiet time for prayer and reflection is a great way to start the day. You have a great day.

    , @Rapparee
    @Bill

    A friend of mine swears he used to regularly see an angel, apparently having assumed some kind of quasi-humanoid visible form, wandering the hallways of his home. He is a rational, skeptical guy in a STEM field, not a histrionic nut.

    In fact, I've had conversations with many apparently sane, rational people who have reported supernatural or miraculous weirdness- miracle healings, Marian apparitions, hyper-accurate premonitions, Divine ecstasy, etc.- but I have never personally met anyone, sane or otherwise, who claims to have witnessed a real-life Klansman in his robes later than about 1985 or so. Outside of these campus panics featured on iSteve, I could name more people who have seen Sasquatch than have seen 21st-century Klansmen.

  89. OT Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner admitted “I took some stuff in the ’80’s,” giving credence to your theory that his problem could be steroid related. http://www.gossipcop.com/kris-jenner-sperm-caitlyn-video-bruce-transition-transgender-i-am-cait-clip-watch/

  90. @Steve from Detroit
    There is a Capuchin Soup Kitchen here in Detroit and they have an extraordinary ministry, including the Venerable Father Solanus Casey Center. The full name of the Order is the Capuchin Franciscan Province of St. Joseph, and they wear the traditional habit of St. Francis: a simple brown robe with hood, a cord around the waist, and sandals.

    A few years ago my wife and I attended a fundraiser for the Capuchins with another couple who are longtime, very good friends of ours. Very soon after arriving, my friend's wife said, "Why are all of these guys dressed up like Obi Wan Kenobi?"

    Replies: @Bill

    Very soon after arriving, my friend’s wife said, “Why are all of these guys dressed up like Obi Wan Kenobi?”

    Kind of like the presumably apocryphal story of the college English student who says “I don’t see what’s so great about the writing in Hamlet, it’s just a bunch of cliches strung together.”

  91. There must not be a lot of Latinos, Filipinos, Irish, Polacks, or Italians at Indiana University Bloomington if most of them can not tell Catholic priests apart from the KKK.

    You can’t expect African Americans who are overwhelmingly Non Catholic, to know much about Catholicism. The same applies to Anglo Saxon Protestants, Jews, Muslims, and Non Filipino Asians.

  92. @Glaivester
    Good thing she wasn't at the Sevilla Easter Procession in Spain.

    Replies: @Shaq, @Crawfurdmuir

    Your comment about the Seville Easter procession and its hooded and robed penitentes reminds me of a similar cultural dissonance I once experienced on a visit to Australia. My hosts had sent a gift basket to my room and in it was a package of Scottish shortbread, on the wrapper of which was printed a burning cross. This was of course drawn, not from the KKK, but from one of the novels (I forget which) of Sir Walter Scott, in which the fiery cross was used to summon the clans.

    Scott’s novels had long been popular in the South. Thomas Dixon, the author of The Clansman (1906) adopted this element from them for his romanticised portrayal of the Ku Klux Klan, even though there is no evidence that the Reconstruction-era Klan ever burnt crosses. Cross-burning became associated with the KKK only in connection with the second, revived Klan founded in 1915, after the appearance of the movie version of Dixon’s novel, The Birth of a Nation – surely an exemplary instance of life imitating art.

    At any rate, I rather wish I had saved that shortbread wrapper – it would have shocked and amazed a great many people in my acquaintance.

  93. Meanwhile, they’re now hunting for the murderer of an 18 year old coed at the UoTexas, described as a black male on a bicycle.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @anonymous

    "Meanwhile, they’re now hunting for the murderer of an 18 year old coed at the UoTexas, described as a black male on a bicycle."

    The victim was described as a woman, but no mention of her race. The Black man who murdered her was either trying to rape her, rob her, or it was a drug deal gone wrong.

    Replies: @ben tillman

  94. @candid_observer
    Just gotta love the detail of turning a rosary into a whip.

    Ideology as hallucinogen. One can see anything one wants to see.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Dr. X

    Just gotta love the detail of turning a rosary into a whip.

    It’s not a rosary, it’s a rope that’s used as a kind of belt. I went to a Franciscan high school where the friars would beat the hell out of you if you stepped out of line… and yes, they did actually whip kids with their ropes!

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Dr. X

    DrX, And you were too afraid to tell your parents, lest you incur another beating. But, I bet you loved your time in that school....there is value in order.

  95. In the new “X Files” Fox Mulder and Dana Scully become SJW’s and the “I Want to Believe” poster in Mulder’s office now pictures a hooded KKK member instead of a flying saucer.

  96. Hispanic administrator at U of Missouri tells students the KKK was not going to the U of Missouri.

    MSU Administrator Remarks

  97. @Steve Sailer
    @Shaq

    Shouldn't it be "Klansperson?" Isn't "member" kind of a sexist microaggression?

    Replies: @BlueSwedeShoes, @Corvinus, @let it burn, @blah blah blah, @duncsbaby

    I lie in wait, quietly biding my time for some day soon, “Klansperson Of Color.”

    • Replies: @NOTA
    @duncsbaby

    Please don't be sexist. Klanspersyn of color.

    , @E. Rekshun
    @duncsbaby

    I lie in wait, quietly biding my time for some day soon, “Klansperson Of Color.”

    Have you never hear of Clayton Bigsby...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOvJXvOtIro

  98. @Bill
    @Buffalo Joe

    Thanks! I have fallen out of the practice of weekday Mass attendance. For a while, I worked across the street from a Cathedral. I used to go to Mass at lunch time most days.

    I loved that Mass. On the feast of Michael, Gabriel, and Raphael, the priest celebrating the Mass decided to give a brief homily. He began by explaining what feast day it was and then saying something like "It's hard for modern people to believe in angels: invisible, purely spiritual beings who fly around and somehow affect the real world without having bodies." He went on in that vein for a while. I was sure he was about to mutter something inane about how angels are a literary device representing the better angels of our nature and that we shouldn't think too badly of our ancestors for believing in them. But he eventually came around to something like "But you just have to deal with it. The Church says there are angels, so there are. And they fly around and do stuff. And St Michael especially kicks Satan's ass a lot." Not in those words, exactly. Wanted to high five the guy.

    The laypeople at the weekday Mass there were also awesome. Bunch of little old Italian, Irish, and Croatian ladies. They were too cool, with their prayer cards and rosaries and crossing themselves as they entered the church and never passing the poor box without putting something in it.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Rapparee

    Bill. Not trying to convert anyone, but quiet time for prayer and reflection is a great way to start the day. You have a great day.

  99. It’s kind of cool that the Phantom Klansman showed up at Indiana University, which is where Jan Harold Brunvand studied and popularized the concept of the “urban legend”.

  100. @duncsbaby
    @Steve Sailer

    I lie in wait, quietly biding my time for some day soon, "Klansperson Of Color."

    Replies: @NOTA, @E. Rekshun

    Please don’t be sexist. Klanspersyn of color.

  101. @duncsbaby
    @Steve Sailer

    I lie in wait, quietly biding my time for some day soon, "Klansperson Of Color."

    Replies: @NOTA, @E. Rekshun

    I lie in wait, quietly biding my time for some day soon, “Klansperson Of Color.”

    Have you never hear of Clayton Bigsby…

  102. @anonymous
    Is it the Franciscan KKK who wear white robes or the Dominican KKK? Or the Benedictines? I always get who wears all-white and who all-black confused. Then there are those sneaky Cistercians who wear white and black! What do they have to say for themselves? Robes are a real micro-aggression. The bad guy in Old Times movies always wears a robe. Probably in the Harry Potter movies also. How can one be in a Safe Place if you can see someone wearing a robe?

    Replies: @Percy Gryce, @Big Bill, @Dr. X, @markflag, @Tony, @Expletive Deleted

    Franciscans: Brown though the Conventuals wear black. They all wear the white knotted Franciscan cincture and a rosary (most of the time).

    Dominicans: All white with rosary beads. At times a black cape. Leather belt.

    Benedictines: All black with black leather belt under scapular. No rosary.

    Cistercians/Trappists: White with black scapular and leather belt fastened over the scapular. No rosary.

    Jesuit: Rarely wear habit. When they do is all black with no buttons on front. Open in front. V-shaped collar. Cincture is black cloth that hangs on the right rather than the left as is typical of parish priests.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @markflag

    Coming soon to a campus near you.

    https://cdn.superstock.com/1606/Download/1606-184392.jpg

  103. @markflag
    @anonymous

    Franciscans: Brown though the Conventuals wear black. They all wear the white knotted Franciscan cincture and a rosary (most of the time).

    Dominicans: All white with rosary beads. At times a black cape. Leather belt.

    Benedictines: All black with black leather belt under scapular. No rosary.

    Cistercians/Trappists: White with black scapular and leather belt fastened over the scapular. No rosary.

    Jesuit: Rarely wear habit. When they do is all black with no buttons on front. Open in front. V-shaped collar. Cincture is black cloth that hangs on the right rather than the left as is typical of parish priests.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Coming soon to a campus near you.

  104. @Buffalo Joe
    @Bill

    Bill, Very nice and informative comment. I attend Mass 6 days a week, and have for years. I collect my thoughts, pray my prayers and only pay attention at the Consecration. I took four years of Latin and loved it. I miss the Mass in Latin, but that's just my opinion.

    Replies: @Bill, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Brutusale

    I miss the Mass in Latin, but that’s just my opinion

    I am not a Roman Catholic, but I miss the Mass in Latin too.

  105. KKK is the New UFO

    And Trump chalkings are the new crop circles.

  106. @John Derbyshire
    @Jefferson

    There actually are rednecks here on Long Island. If you head out east and keep heading, there's a sort of social trough between the outer-outer suburbs of NYC and the Richistan of the Hamptons. Lotsa bait'n'tackle shops, pickup trucks, skinny guys with pony tails and tats. If someone wants to re-shoot Deliverance I can recommend some Long Island locations.

    My nearest skeet range is in Yaphank.

    Replies: @slumber_j, @stillCARealist, @Crawfurdmuir, @Jefferson

    we are EVERYWHERE! You should see the sunburn on my neck after a day spent drinking cheap beer outside the bait n tackle shop. Also, I shop at Walmart and have an NRA sticker on my pickup. Once, though, I met a dentist and was polite to him.

  107. @anonymous
    Is it the Franciscan KKK who wear white robes or the Dominican KKK? Or the Benedictines? I always get who wears all-white and who all-black confused. Then there are those sneaky Cistercians who wear white and black! What do they have to say for themselves? Robes are a real micro-aggression. The bad guy in Old Times movies always wears a robe. Probably in the Harry Potter movies also. How can one be in a Safe Place if you can see someone wearing a robe?

    Replies: @Percy Gryce, @Big Bill, @Dr. X, @markflag, @Tony, @Expletive Deleted

    Funny that priest doesnt look Dominican to me.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Tony

    Tony, Bingo! That's it! In the other post by Mr. Kim decrying the lack of diversity in baseball, maybe these are what he thought Dominicans were, not the obviously black guys from DR.

    Replies: @Jefferson

  108. @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    Speaking of disco groups like K.C. and the Sunshine Band, I was just now reading up on Chic (Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edwards), who were huge right after K.C. in the late 1970s ("Le Freak" and "Good Times"). Chic was very influential on the first generation of rappers (e.g., the first Top 40 rap hit in the 1970s, the Sugarhill Gang's "Rapper's Delight," lifts Chic's "Good Times" riff; and the 1980 #1 rap hit by Blondie, "Rapture," also uses "Good Times," while Queen's 1980 #1 quasi-rap hit "Another One Bites the Dust" lifts the bassline).

    But back in the late 1970s I always thought Chic sounded kind of New Wave as well sounding disco. Listening to the KC (two white guys and a bunch of black session musicians) from the mid-1970s, I can hear that Chic was doing something similar to KC in the late 1970s, but their guitar sound was janglier and more alien, kind of like what Johnny Rotten's PIL was doing in the late 1970s and that U2 perfected in 1981.

    And sure enough, it turns out that the first time Rodgers ever heard anybody rapping, in late 1978, it was at a NYC show that he had been invited to by ... Deborah Harry and Chris Stein, the wife-husband leaders of the New Wave band Blondie. So the fact that Blondie had the first #1 rap hit turns out to make all sorts of sense.

    Soon after Chic played in a show with Blondie and the Clash, who were living in New York in the second half of 1979, and the Clash released their own rap song in late 1980, "Magnificent Seven." (I wouldn't be surprised if there was some direct connection to Talking Heads, who released their own rap song in 1980, "Crosseyed & Painless.")

    Reading up on Nile Rodgers, I see that his stepfather was a Jewish beatnik drug addict in NYC. So it's not surprising that black rap and white new wave were closely linked 35 years ago.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @anonymous-antimarxist, @E. Rekshun, @Discard

    The first rap I heard was “Trouble Coming Every Day”, from Frank Zappa’s album “Freak Out”, circa 1966. I gathered that rap was a street corner hanging out thing that Blacks kids did, and Zappa adopted it for his song about the Watts riots of 1965.

  109. @Steve Sailer
    @Steve Sailer

    From Wikipedia:

    "In late 1978, Debbie Harry suggested that Chic's Nile Rodgers join her and Chris Stein at a hip hop event, which at the time was a communal space taken over by teenagers with boombox stereos playing various pieces of music that performers would break dance to. Rodgers experienced this event the first time himself at a high school in the Bronx. On September 20, 1979, and September 21, 1979, Blondie and Chic were playing concerts with The Clash in New York at The Palladium. When Chic started playing "Good Times", rapper Fab Five Freddy and the members of the Sugarhill Gang ("Big Bank Hank" Jackson, Mike Wright, and "Master Gee" O'Brien), jumped up on stage and started freestyling with the band. A few weeks later Rodgers was on the dance floor of New York club Leviticus and heard the DJ play a song which opened with Bernard Edwards' bass line from Chic's "Good Times". Rodgers approached the DJ who said he was playing a record he had just bought that day in Harlem. The song turned out to be an early version of "Rapper's Delight", which also included a scratched version of the song's string section. Rodgers and Edwards immediately threatened legal action over copyright, which resulted in a settlement and their being credited as co-writers.[5] Rodgers admitted that he was originally upset with the song, but later declared it to be "one of his favorite songs of all time" and his favorite of all the tracks that sampled (or in this instance interpolated) Chic[6][better source needed]. He also stated: "As innovative and important as 'Good Times' was, 'Rapper's Delight' was just as much, if not more so."[7] "Rapper's Delight" is said to be the song that popularized rap music and put it into the mainstream.[citation needed]"

    Replies: @Johnny Smoggins

    Have you ever seen this – New York 1977 – The Coolest Year in Hell

    Interesting documentary that traces the roots of punk/new wave, disco and rap to NYC in the year 1977

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Johnny Smoggins


    Have you ever seen this – New York 1977 – The Coolest Year in Hell

    Interesting documentary that traces the roots of punk/new wave, disco and rap to NYC in the year 1977
     
    These things existed before then, and the roots would go back even further.
  110. @WorkingClass

    The Obama coalition can stay together only by stoking resentment—and, indeed, hatred—of straight white men.
     
    True. But those outside the Obama coalition are not exempt. Stoking resentment - and, indeed, hatred - of blacks, browns and feminists is part of the formula for keeping the 99 percent divided and therefore impotent.

    btw. Zimmerman is not this white boy's role model. I can't tell you what I think of him on Sailer's blog. But for starters I can tell you he is not a white guy.

    Replies: @Discard

    You are mistaken. Immigration and affirmative action divide the working class, not resentment of immigration and affirmative action. Rather than stoking resentment of Blacks, Mexicans, and feminists, the one percent does all it can to suppress that resentment.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Discard


    You are mistaken. Immigration and affirmative action divide the working class, not resentment of immigration and affirmative action.
     
    That's right. It cannot be otherwise.

    The resentment of immigration and affirmative action is caused by the immigration and AA, which means that anything caused by the resentment is also caused by the immigration and AA.
  111. @Jefferson
    KKK sightings are to Social Justice Warriors like what Elvis Presley sightings were to Rednecks after 1977.

    Replies: @TangoMan, @ben tillman

    KKK sightings are to Social Justice Warriors like what Elvis Presley sightings were to Rednecks after 1977.

    That’s not what I expected from the first comment, but it was amusing enough.

  112. @anonymous
    Meanwhile, they're now hunting for the murderer of an 18 year old coed at the UoTexas, described as a black male on a bicycle.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Meanwhile, they’re now hunting for the murderer of an 18 year old coed at the UoTexas, described as a black male on a bicycle.”

    The victim was described as a woman, but no mention of her race. The Black man who murdered her was either trying to rape her, rob her, or it was a drug deal gone wrong.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Jefferson


    “Meanwhile, they’re now hunting for the murderer of an 18 year old coed at the UoTexas, described as a black male on a bicycle.”

    The victim was described as a woman, but no mention of her race. The Black man who murdered her was either trying to rape her, rob her, or it was a drug deal gone wrong.
     
    Her name is Haruka Weiser, and here is a pic:

    http://heavy.com/news/2016/04/haruka-weiser-photos-pictures-university-of-texas-austin-student-murder-suspect/
  113. @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    From the Brietbart link…

    “This is what happens when there is miscommunication,” Gill wrote. “So what happened tonight goes like this: a person saw white robes and what looked to them like a weapon, got scared (rightfully so), warned people, warned staff, which in turn caused me to warn my residents because I need to look out for my residents, which in turn made it spread.”

    [Sigh] So, in other words, like any situation, some people see something, make an assumption, and, in today’s information age, go viral with that assumption, which turns out to a complete misunderstanding. No different than the “truth” narratives and interpretations by the vaunted Coalition of the Fringes Right, consisting of white nationalists and their race baiter toadies, PUA’s like Roissy and the boyzzz at Return Of Kings, radical Tea Partiers, and of course your garden variety John Derbyshires of the world.

    Liberals have their nutjobs, and conservatives have their crazies. Those who say, regardless of ideology, that "one side has more than the other" is way off base. How does one even measure it? What criteria is involved to thoroughly demonstrate that they are more fringe groups on the left than on the right, or vice versa?

    Not ALL, or even the majority, of liberals or conservatives fit the description of being radical lunatics. Apparently, you have yet to receive the memo.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @ben tillman, @Discard

    What criteria is involved to thoroughly demonstrate that they are more fringe groups on the left than on the right, or vice versa?

    Are.

  114. @TangoMan
    @Jefferson

    Rednecks you say? You mean the famed rednecks of Long Island and Boston?

    https://twitter.com/eldrick_2nd/status/717916096913780736

    Replies: @Jefferson, @anonymous-antimarxist, @ben tillman

    Rednecks you say? You mean the famed rednecks of Long Island and Boston?

    I looked “redneck” up in the dictionary about 30 years ago. It said, “A member of the rural Southern laboring class”.

    I’ve spent little time in/on Long Island, but the “racism” I saw was way beyond anything I’d seen in the South.

    • Replies: @Crawfurdmuir
    @ben tillman

    I've always thought of "redneck" as referring specifically to poor whites from the rural South. Wikipedia says -

    By 1910, the political supporters of the Mississippi Democratic Party politician James K. Vardaman—chiefly poor white farmers—began to describe themselves proudly as "rednecks," even to the point of wearing red neckerchiefs to political rallies and picnics.

    Linguist Sterling Eisiminger, based on the testimony of informants from the Southern United States, speculated that the prevalence of pellagra in the region during the great depression may have contributed to the rise in popularity of the term; red, inflamed skin is one of the first symptoms of that disorder to appear.

    The pellagra explanation seems contrived. Agricultural laborers, regardless of their nutrition, have always suffered from sunburn, and their sunburnt appearance by transference used to describe them. Bernard de la Monnoye (1641-1726) in 1700 published a collection of lyrics for Christmas carols in the Burgundian dialect under the pseudonym Gui Barôzai. The word barôzai refers to the "deep rose" (bas rosé) of the skin of someone who has spent his days tending vines in the hot sun. In the Burgundian glossary appended to my edition of the songs, it is defined as follows:

    "Barôzai. Vigneron ainsi nommé, parce que d'ordinaire il portoit un bas couleur de rose. Comme il s'étoit venu célèbre dans le corps des Vignerons de Dijon, & qu'il étoit un de ceux qui parloient le Bourguignon le plus franc, il est arrivé de là que le nom de Barôzai est devenu comme à tous les Vignerons de la Ville, en sorte qu'aujourd'hui Vigneron & Barôzai (en François Bas-rosé) sont synonymes."

    In the preface to the collection, the poet says of himself -

    "Come i seù de lai raice dé bon Barôzai, je n'ai jaimoi velu palai autre langaige que stu de feù mon peire, & de feù mon gran peire, ai qui Dei baille bone vie."

    This might be translated "since I am of the race of good old rednecks, I have never wanted to talk another language than that of my old daddy, and my old granddaddy, to whom God gave a good life."

  115. @Corvinus
    @OsRazor

    "The Kkkrazy Glue is relevant to the 39 percent of Whites who voted for Obama who comprised 53 percent of the fringe coalition supporting Obama."

    Do you have a source for this statistic?

    Assuming that the 39% of whites who supported Obama are the "fringe", how do you propose to indoctrinate them, I mean, properly educate them, to purge them from the years of liberal propaganda. Moreover, are these white people you refer to "anti-white"? What solutions are you able to get these people back into the fold as "normal Americans"?

    Replies: @Discard

    Any White who claims to support diversity should be put in a labor camp that is no more than 25% White. After ten years, when (if?) they come out, they will not be normal Americans, as they forfeit that privilege when they chose multi-cultism. But they will be suited to do the work that is too risky for chattel slaves.

  116. @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    From the Brietbart link…

    “This is what happens when there is miscommunication,” Gill wrote. “So what happened tonight goes like this: a person saw white robes and what looked to them like a weapon, got scared (rightfully so), warned people, warned staff, which in turn caused me to warn my residents because I need to look out for my residents, which in turn made it spread.”

    [Sigh] So, in other words, like any situation, some people see something, make an assumption, and, in today’s information age, go viral with that assumption, which turns out to a complete misunderstanding. No different than the “truth” narratives and interpretations by the vaunted Coalition of the Fringes Right, consisting of white nationalists and their race baiter toadies, PUA’s like Roissy and the boyzzz at Return Of Kings, radical Tea Partiers, and of course your garden variety John Derbyshires of the world.

    Liberals have their nutjobs, and conservatives have their crazies. Those who say, regardless of ideology, that "one side has more than the other" is way off base. How does one even measure it? What criteria is involved to thoroughly demonstrate that they are more fringe groups on the left than on the right, or vice versa?

    Not ALL, or even the majority, of liberals or conservatives fit the description of being radical lunatics. Apparently, you have yet to receive the memo.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @ben tillman, @Discard

    Any White who supports affirmative action or non-White immigration is a radical lunatic. Their words are so out of sync with both their present deeds and their long term self interest, that sanity must be ruled out.

  117. When is the last time a Kluxer killed someone? How often does this happen?

    When is the last time a Black person killed someone? How often does this happen?

    Is there any good reason why — if KKK sighting are publicized — sightings of Blacks on campus should not be publicized with greater trepidation?

  118. @Discard
    @WorkingClass

    You are mistaken. Immigration and affirmative action divide the working class, not resentment of immigration and affirmative action. Rather than stoking resentment of Blacks, Mexicans, and feminists, the one percent does all it can to suppress that resentment.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    You are mistaken. Immigration and affirmative action divide the working class, not resentment of immigration and affirmative action.

    That’s right. It cannot be otherwise.

    The resentment of immigration and affirmative action is caused by the immigration and AA, which means that anything caused by the resentment is also caused by the immigration and AA.

  119. @Johnny Smoggins
    @Steve Sailer

    Have you ever seen this - New York 1977 - The Coolest Year in Hell

    Interesting documentary that traces the roots of punk/new wave, disco and rap to NYC in the year 1977

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHXAYddPLsM

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Have you ever seen this – New York 1977 – The Coolest Year in Hell

    Interesting documentary that traces the roots of punk/new wave, disco and rap to NYC in the year 1977

    These things existed before then, and the roots would go back even further.

  120. @Jefferson
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    "Meanwhile Mutt Lange helped AC/DC to a huge hit with “You Shook Me All Night Long” by giving it a beat even uncoordinated white guys who thought disco was for fags could manage enough liquid courage to ask a girl to dance to."

    There is a film called "Everybody Wants Some", which takes place in 1980. A group of college friends go to a disco club called "The Sound Machine" and than later they call to a punk rock show.

    The women at the disco on average were way more attractive than the women at the punk rock concert. If I was a Baby Boomer during the 1970s/early 1980s looking to get laid, I would be frequenting the disco clubs quite often. The women at the discos looked more traditionally feminine and looked like they have better hygienes than the women at the punk rock concert.

    Replies: @Discard, @flyingtiger

    There was a song back then called “Punk Rock Boys Like New Wave Girls”. Nose rings are not feminine, unless you’re a pig.

  121. @Jefferson
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    "Meanwhile Mutt Lange helped AC/DC to a huge hit with “You Shook Me All Night Long” by giving it a beat even uncoordinated white guys who thought disco was for fags could manage enough liquid courage to ask a girl to dance to."

    There is a film called "Everybody Wants Some", which takes place in 1980. A group of college friends go to a disco club called "The Sound Machine" and than later they call to a punk rock show.

    The women at the disco on average were way more attractive than the women at the punk rock concert. If I was a Baby Boomer during the 1970s/early 1980s looking to get laid, I would be frequenting the disco clubs quite often. The women at the discos looked more traditionally feminine and looked like they have better hygienes than the women at the punk rock concert.

    Replies: @Discard, @flyingtiger

    My experience with disco was that it was about excluding who you did not want. The black clubs wanted only blacks, the Hispanic wanted Hispanics. The white clubs were run by gays, who would keep out straight white women.
    Then the new wave of Heavy metal music broke (AC/DC, Iron Maiden, Def Lepard, Judas Priest and others) That is where you could find the good babes.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @flyingtiger

    "The white clubs were run by gays, who would keep out straight white women."

    My father told me he got plenty of female ass during his disco days in Staten Island. Disco was huge with New York Italians, especially after Saturday Night Fever came out.

    Disco was also huge in Italy, it was called Italo disco.

    Replies: @Truth

    , @Bill
    @flyingtiger

    Iron Maiden concerts were not exactly packed with babes. I'd say the crowds were usually at least 3:1 male. I love Iron Maiden, but it is very male music.

    In my experience, fag hags tend to be very feminine girls, so the gayness of disco tended to generate an attractive female fan base. And I hate disco.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @Brutusale
    @flyingtiger

    I was a punk rock guy, but my current girlfriend was a disco girl. It's funny that we spent a lot of time in the 70s going to clubs across Kenmore Square from each other, her at Lucifer's and me at The Rat. She says the sole decider about which disco club to patronize was how many foreigners, especially Arabs, were in attendance.

    I worked at a disco while in college; I don't care if I ever hear "Brick House" again. The Jewish owner had an unwritten policy for us to mildly harass the people he didn't want there (minorities and foreigners, the prime sexual harassers at clubs) but I'm here to tell you that dealing with your average IROC-driving Revere guido was no day at the beach.

    Funny that the owner didn't care for Israelis at this club, either.

    Replies: @E. Rekshun

  122. @E. Rekshun
    @Steve Sailer

    Nile Rodgers

    I walked right by Nile Rogers at the Denver International Airport last summer. He was smiling and carrying a guitar case.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I wonder how much money the 1960 Stratocaster in that case has earned Nile Rodgers over the years?

    It turns out somebody else has wondered that:

    “The New Musical Express reports that at one time an estimate of the value of the music played through the instrument was $2 billion.[4]”

    I imagine he only pocketed a few percent of that, but he has reasons to smile.

    • Agree: E. Rekshun
  123. @flyingtiger
    @Jefferson

    My experience with disco was that it was about excluding who you did not want. The black clubs wanted only blacks, the Hispanic wanted Hispanics. The white clubs were run by gays, who would keep out straight white women.
    Then the new wave of Heavy metal music broke (AC/DC, Iron Maiden, Def Lepard, Judas Priest and others) That is where you could find the good babes.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Bill, @Brutusale

    “The white clubs were run by gays, who would keep out straight white women.”

    My father told me he got plenty of female ass during his disco days in Staten Island. Disco was huge with New York Italians, especially after Saturday Night Fever came out.

    Disco was also huge in Italy, it was called Italo disco.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Jefferson


    My father told me he got plenty of female ass
     
    I really miss those days of wholesome, American, father-son pair-bonding as well.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Jefferson

  124. @Jefferson
    @flyingtiger

    "The white clubs were run by gays, who would keep out straight white women."

    My father told me he got plenty of female ass during his disco days in Staten Island. Disco was huge with New York Italians, especially after Saturday Night Fever came out.

    Disco was also huge in Italy, it was called Italo disco.

    Replies: @Truth

    My father told me he got plenty of female ass

    I really miss those days of wholesome, American, father-son pair-bonding as well.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Truth

    Truth, You just made my day. Next reality show topic.....Dad and Son and who did you bang.

    , @Jefferson
    @Truth

    " I really miss those days of wholesome, American, father-son pair-bonding as well."

    My father put it in a more PG way, he told me he was popular with the ladies at the discos. I am the one who gave a more rated R translation here.

  125. @Buffalo Joe
    Tough shit for all the wussie boys and girls on campus. The nuns who taught me in grammar school were as fearsome as the KKK, and they threatened you with eternal damnation. The Sisters of St. Joseph, my Patron Saint, wore black from head to toe, a head piece that covered all but their face, a knotted rope around their waist and a mile of rosary beads, the rattle of which acted as an early warning system that Sister Whomever was swooping down on you. Heaven help these frightened babies

    Replies: @Brutusale

    I’m sure your nuns were like the Sisters of St. Joseph who taught me. That discipline in the classroom is necessary to learning was not a bug, but a feature.

    Contrary to the current view, they weren’t ogres. They dealt with this particular class clown with a sort of amused tolerance. It didn’t hurt that I was a good student.

    I still feel like Jake and Elwood when I’m around nuns:

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Brutusale

    Brutus, Same nuns, but we greatly embellished the discipline that they meted out. It gave us combat veteran status.

    Replies: @Brutusale

  126. @Buffalo Joe
    @Bill

    Bill, Very nice and informative comment. I attend Mass 6 days a week, and have for years. I collect my thoughts, pray my prayers and only pay attention at the Consecration. I took four years of Latin and loved it. I miss the Mass in Latin, but that's just my opinion.

    Replies: @Bill, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Brutusale

    My dad left the church when Latin did. “Might as well be Protestants!” quoth he.

  127. @flyingtiger
    @Jefferson

    My experience with disco was that it was about excluding who you did not want. The black clubs wanted only blacks, the Hispanic wanted Hispanics. The white clubs were run by gays, who would keep out straight white women.
    Then the new wave of Heavy metal music broke (AC/DC, Iron Maiden, Def Lepard, Judas Priest and others) That is where you could find the good babes.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Bill, @Brutusale

    Iron Maiden concerts were not exactly packed with babes. I’d say the crowds were usually at least 3:1 male. I love Iron Maiden, but it is very male music.

    In my experience, fag hags tend to be very feminine girls, so the gayness of disco tended to generate an attractive female fan base. And I hate disco.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Bill

    "so the gayness of disco tended to generate an attractive female fan base."

    Yeah the pretty women with the Farrah Fawcett hairstyle were all hanging out at the local disco.

  128. @Jefferson
    @anonymous

    "Meanwhile, they’re now hunting for the murderer of an 18 year old coed at the UoTexas, described as a black male on a bicycle."

    The victim was described as a woman, but no mention of her race. The Black man who murdered her was either trying to rape her, rob her, or it was a drug deal gone wrong.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    “Meanwhile, they’re now hunting for the murderer of an 18 year old coed at the UoTexas, described as a black male on a bicycle.”

    The victim was described as a woman, but no mention of her race. The Black man who murdered her was either trying to rape her, rob her, or it was a drug deal gone wrong.

    Her name is Haruka Weiser, and here is a pic:

    http://heavy.com/news/2016/04/haruka-weiser-photos-pictures-university-of-texas-austin-student-murder-suspect/

  129. @flyingtiger
    @Jefferson

    My experience with disco was that it was about excluding who you did not want. The black clubs wanted only blacks, the Hispanic wanted Hispanics. The white clubs were run by gays, who would keep out straight white women.
    Then the new wave of Heavy metal music broke (AC/DC, Iron Maiden, Def Lepard, Judas Priest and others) That is where you could find the good babes.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Bill, @Brutusale

    I was a punk rock guy, but my current girlfriend was a disco girl. It’s funny that we spent a lot of time in the 70s going to clubs across Kenmore Square from each other, her at Lucifer’s and me at The Rat. She says the sole decider about which disco club to patronize was how many foreigners, especially Arabs, were in attendance.

    I worked at a disco while in college; I don’t care if I ever hear “Brick House” again. The Jewish owner had an unwritten policy for us to mildly harass the people he didn’t want there (minorities and foreigners, the prime sexual harassers at clubs) but I’m here to tell you that dealing with your average IROC-driving Revere guido was no day at the beach.

    Funny that the owner didn’t care for Israelis at this club, either.

    • Replies: @E. Rekshun
    @Brutusale

    we spent a lot of time in the 70s going to clubs across Kenmore Square from each other, her at Lucifer’s and me at The Rat.

    A few years after that, my friends and I got kicked out of Kenmore Square club, Celebration, a few times when club security caught us sharing adult beverages with our 19-year old dates. This was just before the drinking age was raised from 20 to 21 in MA.

    Replies: @Brutusale

  130. @Bill
    @Buffalo Joe

    Thanks! I have fallen out of the practice of weekday Mass attendance. For a while, I worked across the street from a Cathedral. I used to go to Mass at lunch time most days.

    I loved that Mass. On the feast of Michael, Gabriel, and Raphael, the priest celebrating the Mass decided to give a brief homily. He began by explaining what feast day it was and then saying something like "It's hard for modern people to believe in angels: invisible, purely spiritual beings who fly around and somehow affect the real world without having bodies." He went on in that vein for a while. I was sure he was about to mutter something inane about how angels are a literary device representing the better angels of our nature and that we shouldn't think too badly of our ancestors for believing in them. But he eventually came around to something like "But you just have to deal with it. The Church says there are angels, so there are. And they fly around and do stuff. And St Michael especially kicks Satan's ass a lot." Not in those words, exactly. Wanted to high five the guy.

    The laypeople at the weekday Mass there were also awesome. Bunch of little old Italian, Irish, and Croatian ladies. They were too cool, with their prayer cards and rosaries and crossing themselves as they entered the church and never passing the poor box without putting something in it.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Rapparee

    A friend of mine swears he used to regularly see an angel, apparently having assumed some kind of quasi-humanoid visible form, wandering the hallways of his home. He is a rational, skeptical guy in a STEM field, not a histrionic nut.

    In fact, I’ve had conversations with many apparently sane, rational people who have reported supernatural or miraculous weirdness- miracle healings, Marian apparitions, hyper-accurate premonitions, Divine ecstasy, etc.- but I have never personally met anyone, sane or otherwise, who claims to have witnessed a real-life Klansman in his robes later than about 1985 or so. Outside of these campus panics featured on iSteve, I could name more people who have seen Sasquatch than have seen 21st-century Klansmen.

  131. @John Derbyshire
    @Jefferson

    There actually are rednecks here on Long Island. If you head out east and keep heading, there's a sort of social trough between the outer-outer suburbs of NYC and the Richistan of the Hamptons. Lotsa bait'n'tackle shops, pickup trucks, skinny guys with pony tails and tats. If someone wants to re-shoot Deliverance I can recommend some Long Island locations.

    My nearest skeet range is in Yaphank.

    Replies: @slumber_j, @stillCARealist, @Crawfurdmuir, @Jefferson

    I don’t know why you associate a skeet range with rednecks. Skeet shooting is not a particularly downscale game, though sporting clays perhaps draws a more affluent following these days.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Crawfurdmuir

    Craw, Golf and skeet shooting, the two sports were equipment is always the problem and a new driver, putter, whatever or a new over/under will solve the problem. Great garage sales when the widows trot out all the old stuff from their late husband's closet.

  132. @Dr. X
    @candid_observer


    Just gotta love the detail of turning a rosary into a whip.
     
    It's not a rosary, it's a rope that's used as a kind of belt. I went to a Franciscan high school where the friars would beat the hell out of you if you stepped out of line... and yes, they did actually whip kids with their ropes!

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    DrX, And you were too afraid to tell your parents, lest you incur another beating. But, I bet you loved your time in that school….there is value in order.

  133. @Tony
    @anonymous

    Funny that priest doesnt look Dominican to me.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Tony, Bingo! That’s it! In the other post by Mr. Kim decrying the lack of diversity in baseball, maybe these are what he thought Dominicans were, not the obviously black guys from DR.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Buffalo Joe

    "Tony, Bingo! That’s it! In the other post by Mr. Kim decrying the lack of diversity in baseball, maybe these are what he thought Dominicans were, not the obviously black guys from DR."

    Afro Hispanics in general are disproportionately attracted to baseball. That is why in addition to The DR, there are also Black MLB players from Cuba, Panama, Puerto Rico, and Venezuela. The first famous Black Hispanic MLB player was Roberto Clemente from Puerto Rico. I wonder if Hollywood will ever make a film about him?

  134. @Truth
    @Jefferson


    My father told me he got plenty of female ass
     
    I really miss those days of wholesome, American, father-son pair-bonding as well.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Jefferson

    Truth, You just made my day. Next reality show topic…..Dad and Son and who did you bang.

  135. @Brutusale
    @Buffalo Joe

    I'm sure your nuns were like the Sisters of St. Joseph who taught me. That discipline in the classroom is necessary to learning was not a bug, but a feature.

    Contrary to the current view, they weren't ogres. They dealt with this particular class clown with a sort of amused tolerance. It didn't hurt that I was a good student.

    I still feel like Jake and Elwood when I'm around nuns:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqkowVU5mZI

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Brutus, Same nuns, but we greatly embellished the discipline that they meted out. It gave us combat veteran status.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Buffalo Joe

    True enough. Like potential discipline from my dad, just the threat was enough. But, like marine drill instructors, they'd occasionally have to make an example of someone.

  136. @Crawfurdmuir
    @John Derbyshire

    I don't know why you associate a skeet range with rednecks. Skeet shooting is not a particularly downscale game, though sporting clays perhaps draws a more affluent following these days.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Craw, Golf and skeet shooting, the two sports were equipment is always the problem and a new driver, putter, whatever or a new over/under will solve the problem. Great garage sales when the widows trot out all the old stuff from their late husband’s closet.

  137. @ben tillman
    @TangoMan


    Rednecks you say? You mean the famed rednecks of Long Island and Boston?
     
    I looked "redneck" up in the dictionary about 30 years ago. It said, "A member of the rural Southern laboring class".

    I've spent little time in/on Long Island, but the "racism" I saw was way beyond anything I'd seen in the South.

    Replies: @Crawfurdmuir

    I’ve always thought of “redneck” as referring specifically to poor whites from the rural South. Wikipedia says –

    By 1910, the political supporters of the Mississippi Democratic Party politician James K. Vardaman—chiefly poor white farmers—began to describe themselves proudly as “rednecks,” even to the point of wearing red neckerchiefs to political rallies and picnics.

    Linguist Sterling Eisiminger, based on the testimony of informants from the Southern United States, speculated that the prevalence of pellagra in the region during the great depression may have contributed to the rise in popularity of the term; red, inflamed skin is one of the first symptoms of that disorder to appear.

    The pellagra explanation seems contrived. Agricultural laborers, regardless of their nutrition, have always suffered from sunburn, and their sunburnt appearance by transference used to describe them. Bernard de la Monnoye (1641-1726) in 1700 published a collection of lyrics for Christmas carols in the Burgundian dialect under the pseudonym Gui Barôzai. The word barôzai refers to the “deep rose” (bas rosé) of the skin of someone who has spent his days tending vines in the hot sun. In the Burgundian glossary appended to my edition of the songs, it is defined as follows:

    Barôzai. Vigneron ainsi nommé, parce que d’ordinaire il portoit un bas couleur de rose. Comme il s’étoit venu célèbre dans le corps des Vignerons de Dijon, & qu’il étoit un de ceux qui parloient le Bourguignon le plus franc, il est arrivé de là que le nom de Barôzai est devenu comme à tous les Vignerons de la Ville, en sorte qu’aujourd’hui Vigneron & Barôzai (en François Bas-rosé) sont synonymes.”

    In the preface to the collection, the poet says of himself –

    “Come i seù de lai raice dé bon Barôzai, je n’ai jaimoi velu palai autre langaige que stu de feù mon peire, & de feù mon gran peire, ai qui Dei baille bone vie.”

    This might be translated “since I am of the race of good old rednecks, I have never wanted to talk another language than that of my old daddy, and my old granddaddy, to whom God gave a good life.”

  138. @Truth
    @Jefferson


    My father told me he got plenty of female ass
     
    I really miss those days of wholesome, American, father-son pair-bonding as well.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Jefferson

    ” I really miss those days of wholesome, American, father-son pair-bonding as well.”

    My father put it in a more PG way, he told me he was popular with the ladies at the discos. I am the one who gave a more rated R translation here.

  139. @Bill
    @flyingtiger

    Iron Maiden concerts were not exactly packed with babes. I'd say the crowds were usually at least 3:1 male. I love Iron Maiden, but it is very male music.

    In my experience, fag hags tend to be very feminine girls, so the gayness of disco tended to generate an attractive female fan base. And I hate disco.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “so the gayness of disco tended to generate an attractive female fan base.”

    Yeah the pretty women with the Farrah Fawcett hairstyle were all hanging out at the local disco.

  140. @Buffalo Joe
    @Tony

    Tony, Bingo! That's it! In the other post by Mr. Kim decrying the lack of diversity in baseball, maybe these are what he thought Dominicans were, not the obviously black guys from DR.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Tony, Bingo! That’s it! In the other post by Mr. Kim decrying the lack of diversity in baseball, maybe these are what he thought Dominicans were, not the obviously black guys from DR.”

    Afro Hispanics in general are disproportionately attracted to baseball. That is why in addition to The DR, there are also Black MLB players from Cuba, Panama, Puerto Rico, and Venezuela. The first famous Black Hispanic MLB player was Roberto Clemente from Puerto Rico. I wonder if Hollywood will ever make a film about him?

  141. @Buffalo Joe
    @Brutusale

    Brutus, Same nuns, but we greatly embellished the discipline that they meted out. It gave us combat veteran status.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    True enough. Like potential discipline from my dad, just the threat was enough. But, like marine drill instructors, they’d occasionally have to make an example of someone.

  142. You actually have take this seriously. Some moron will actually think this a Klansman, attack and either seriously hurt or kill the priest.

  143. “When is the last time a Kluxer killed someone? How often does this happen?”

    I think it is generally agreed the last authentic lynching of a negro by white Klansmen was around 1964 or so.

    A single episode. Over fifty years ago now.

    The SPLC likes to say some killing of a colored man by a whitey in the 1980’s was also Klan oriented but it is also generally agreed that was over a drug debt.

    Other than that just about nothing from the Klan.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Adar.

    Thank you for the reply.

    , @Big Bill
    @Adar.

    It is important to define "lynching". The classic definition, established by the NAACP over 100 years ago and used ever since to amass and filter murder/lynching reports, was three-pronged: (1) an extrajudicial killing, (2) committed by 3 or more people, (3) to punish someone for violating community traditions or mores.

    As blacks have explained over and over and over, the "violation of traditions or mores" prong can be as little as "being uppity", "having a smart mouth" or "not knowing your place".

    In other words, most black "gang killings" are actually "lynchings". If three or more Negros are involved, and they shoot up some other Negro/s in some kind of honor ("dissing") or turf battle, you got yourself a lynching.

    The last KKK lynching was over fifty years ago. As rough estimate there have been at least a thousand (and more likely tens of thousands) of Negro-on-Negro lynchings in the same time period.

  144. @Adar.
    "When is the last time a Kluxer killed someone? How often does this happen?"

    I think it is generally agreed the last authentic lynching of a negro by white Klansmen was around 1964 or so.

    A single episode. Over fifty years ago now.

    The SPLC likes to say some killing of a colored man by a whitey in the 1980's was also Klan oriented but it is also generally agreed that was over a drug debt.

    Other than that just about nothing from the Klan.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Big Bill

    Thank you for the reply.

  145. @Brutusale
    @flyingtiger

    I was a punk rock guy, but my current girlfriend was a disco girl. It's funny that we spent a lot of time in the 70s going to clubs across Kenmore Square from each other, her at Lucifer's and me at The Rat. She says the sole decider about which disco club to patronize was how many foreigners, especially Arabs, were in attendance.

    I worked at a disco while in college; I don't care if I ever hear "Brick House" again. The Jewish owner had an unwritten policy for us to mildly harass the people he didn't want there (minorities and foreigners, the prime sexual harassers at clubs) but I'm here to tell you that dealing with your average IROC-driving Revere guido was no day at the beach.

    Funny that the owner didn't care for Israelis at this club, either.

    Replies: @E. Rekshun

    we spent a lot of time in the 70s going to clubs across Kenmore Square from each other, her at Lucifer’s and me at The Rat.

    A few years after that, my friends and I got kicked out of Kenmore Square club, Celebration, a few times when club security caught us sharing adult beverages with our 19-year old dates. This was just before the drinking age was raised from 20 to 21 in MA.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @E. Rekshun

    Then there was the "security" at The Rat, where I saw my first club show at age 17 (The Runaways, Steve).

    Rock clubs always had less oppressive security than the discos. The guy I worked for was less so than most, he was pretty well-connected in town, never had any licensing issues and only cared about fighting at the club.

  146. @E. Rekshun
    @Brutusale

    we spent a lot of time in the 70s going to clubs across Kenmore Square from each other, her at Lucifer’s and me at The Rat.

    A few years after that, my friends and I got kicked out of Kenmore Square club, Celebration, a few times when club security caught us sharing adult beverages with our 19-year old dates. This was just before the drinking age was raised from 20 to 21 in MA.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Then there was the “security” at The Rat, where I saw my first club show at age 17 (The Runaways, Steve).

    Rock clubs always had less oppressive security than the discos. The guy I worked for was less so than most, he was pretty well-connected in town, never had any licensing issues and only cared about fighting at the club.

    • Agree: E. Rekshun
  147. Hey Yo, I figured it out, it’s deceased artist Thomas Hart Benton’s fault. The University of Indiana has a mural featuring Klansmen burning a cross. See, it’s art imitating life or life imitating art or something.

    http://indianapublicmedia.org/arts/damage-control-restoring-thomas-hart-bentons-indiana-murals/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hart_Benton_(painter)

  148. @Adar.
    "When is the last time a Kluxer killed someone? How often does this happen?"

    I think it is generally agreed the last authentic lynching of a negro by white Klansmen was around 1964 or so.

    A single episode. Over fifty years ago now.

    The SPLC likes to say some killing of a colored man by a whitey in the 1980's was also Klan oriented but it is also generally agreed that was over a drug debt.

    Other than that just about nothing from the Klan.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Big Bill

    It is important to define “lynching”. The classic definition, established by the NAACP over 100 years ago and used ever since to amass and filter murder/lynching reports, was three-pronged: (1) an extrajudicial killing, (2) committed by 3 or more people, (3) to punish someone for violating community traditions or mores.

    As blacks have explained over and over and over, the “violation of traditions or mores” prong can be as little as “being uppity”, “having a smart mouth” or “not knowing your place”.

    In other words, most black “gang killings” are actually “lynchings”. If three or more Negros are involved, and they shoot up some other Negro/s in some kind of honor (“dissing”) or turf battle, you got yourself a lynching.

    The last KKK lynching was over fifty years ago. As rough estimate there have been at least a thousand (and more likely tens of thousands) of Negro-on-Negro lynchings in the same time period.

  149. @John Derbyshire
    @Jefferson

    There actually are rednecks here on Long Island. If you head out east and keep heading, there's a sort of social trough between the outer-outer suburbs of NYC and the Richistan of the Hamptons. Lotsa bait'n'tackle shops, pickup trucks, skinny guys with pony tails and tats. If someone wants to re-shoot Deliverance I can recommend some Long Island locations.

    My nearest skeet range is in Yaphank.

    Replies: @slumber_j, @stillCARealist, @Crawfurdmuir, @Jefferson

    “There actually are rednecks here on Long Island.”

    Do these “Rednecks” in Long Island pronounce the word coffee the same way that Jews and Guineas do? Because if they do than they are not Rednecks. No real true Redneck would ever sound like Tony Danza or Bernie Sanders. Rednecks are suppose to sound like Larry The Cable Guy.

  150. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Percy Gryce
    @anonymous


    Is it the Franciscan KKK who wear white robes or the Dominican KKK? Or the Benedictines? I always get who wears all-white and who all-black confused. Then there are those sneaky Cistercians who wear white and black!
     
    Gray Friars = Franciscans (because their habits were originally of undyed wool)
    Black Friars = Dominicans (because their cappa magna is black, but their habits are white--the priest in this story is a Dominican)
    White Friars = Carmelites (although their habits these days are usually brown)

    White Canons = Norbertines
    Black Canons = Augustinians

    Black Monks = Benedictines
    White Monks = Cistercians

    This all just used to be common knowledge as part of Western civilization. But now we have the children of the generation that shouted "Hey, hey, ho, ho, Western Civ has got to go." And so now they live in fear of what they don't know.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Bill, @Anonymous

    I think maybe the worst part of life during a civilization’s decline is the survival instinct itself. In order to navigate the kind of broad, pugnacious ignorance that permeates a burning culture, you’re forced to learn how to think like those very barbarians who are setting it on fire.

    I’m not talking about principles (which, hopefully, we can somehow cling to like, ahem, ” guns and religion”). Barbarians don’t have principles. Most of them don’t even have the concept of “tomorrow.” What they do have is the pack’s signalling instinct, very similar to wolves.

    It’s kinda funny (and heartening) to see you break the vestments down by luminance the way you have. I remembered a few of them. But I also forgot more, and was totally ignorant of the rest. In that sense, perhaps I even fit into the ignoramus group I described. But here is the problem: I am not a wolf. My wife knows even less of sacraments and rites, yet she is also not a wolf. I agree that it’s possible we should commit to memory these subtle wardrobe differences, even if only for reasons of personal enlightenment. But I doubt such knowledge would make much of a difference regarding our werewolf status.

    Meanwhile, I think the excitable lads and lasses at IU Bloomington (or their equally volatile comrades at Oberlin) could commit to memory every sect and shade of garment, every rite and ritual, and still be utterly blind to the truth. These are young people who (sadly) are scared and miserable and (even more sadly) hope to transfer that fear and misery onto others. It was their ignorance that made the priest their target, but it was their lifelong Gramscian programming that had the pack on the lookout for “robes” to begin with, no matter the cut and color.

    I wish facts were the main problem, because that would at least provide some obvious solutions. But I fear the problem is more elemental: in an age of darkness, how do you turn wolves into dogs? Per the wisdom of our ancient forebears, there doesn’t seem to be any better strategy than “build the fire very bright, and toss out scraps when we can.”

  151. @anonymous
    Is it the Franciscan KKK who wear white robes or the Dominican KKK? Or the Benedictines? I always get who wears all-white and who all-black confused. Then there are those sneaky Cistercians who wear white and black! What do they have to say for themselves? Robes are a real micro-aggression. The bad guy in Old Times movies always wears a robe. Probably in the Harry Potter movies also. How can one be in a Safe Place if you can see someone wearing a robe?

    Replies: @Percy Gryce, @Big Bill, @Dr. X, @markflag, @Tony, @Expletive Deleted

    Black robes = Sith
    Brown = Jawas
    Brown&white = Jedi
    Khaki = Tusken Raiders
    White = Saruman
    Grey = Gandalf

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