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Another effort to fool the public with an obvious super-telephoto lens shot that compresses distance. You can tell by how it constantly appears that the pedestrians are about to carom into each other, but they never do. Plus the store signs look like the Old City of Kowloon and the white streetlights appear to be set 12 inches apart.

A commenter says this video looks like it was shot with the Hubble space telescope.

In contrast, the Palm Beach Post published a beach photo on May 23 with a caption explaining the telephoto effect:

While it appears the beachgoers are close together because of the compressed perspective of a telephoto lens, people were actually practicing social distancing.

So say not that the struggle for Telephoto Distortion Awareness nought availeth.

 
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  1. The funniest report I saw yesterday was a CNN reporterette standing on Myrtle Beach holding a mask in her hands, complaining that nobody in the obviously socially distant groups sunbathing behind her wore masks.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    Caren News Network
  2. robot says: • Website

    If you want to talk sense to your hometown, take the number of deaths-so-far and multiply it by 100. That’s the number of contagious cases they’ll need to track down before they start multiplying again. Then subtract the number who’ve been tested positive so far, and compare that to the local population: that’s the pool they’ll need to search.

    • Replies: @robot
    Maybe to catch on as a meme this should be simplified to

    'you need to find 100 who test positive
    for every one who dies'
  3. Dishonesty is socially acceptable. Fool me twice, or 87 times, I forgive you again. That is the fundamental flaw of our unscientific society and the singular topic of sincerity … In STEM, a lying, omitting, deceiving scientist is shunned forever.
    Scientifc honesty requires to explain all flaws, weaknesses, misunderstandindings.
    Distorted photos that lead to misunderstandings DO require explanations. Like additional photos with standard focal distance lenses.
    Espose dishonesty, impose morality, demand honesty. A Truthrevolution is necessary to best solve our problems in social sciences, or in Coronavirus problems.

  4. I’m waiting for someone to say, ” How can people have fun at a time like this?”, to be honest.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    Well they're brutally shaming Trump just for playing some golf while we near the "grim milestone" of 100,000 dead Americans. Of course we're not nearing it fast enough for the NYT, which jumped the gun a bit Sunday.
  5. @robot
    If you want to talk sense to your hometown, take the number of deaths-so-far and multiply it by 100. That's the number of contagious cases they'll need to track down before they start multiplying again. Then subtract the number who've been tested positive so far, and compare that to the local population: that's the pool they'll need to search.

    Maybe to catch on as a meme this should be simplified to

    ‘you need to find 100 who test positive
    for every one who dies’

  6. Yes but are ypu aware of breast cancer?

  7. Since you pointed out this trick (which I knew about, but hadn’t noticed how much it was being used), I now see it all the time.

    Strangely nowadays, the news services only seem to use it in majority white venues, even though I know that there are just as dense crowds in majority non-white venues too.

    I wonder what accounts for this peculiar one-sidedness?

    Haha. Actually, I don’t. Feeding anti-white rage that whites are getting away something not permitted to non-whites is Job One at the MSM.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    That crowd in the Lake of Ozarks must be around 95% White.

    https://twitter.com/w_terrence/status/1264700825248559104

    What are the odds any of them will self-quarantine?

    https://twitter.com/zerwekh/status/1265044004397371393
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    That crowd in the Lake of Ozarks must be around 95% White.

    https://twitter.com/w_terrence/status/1264700825248559104

    What are the odds any of them will self-quarantine?

    https://twitter.com/zerwekh/status/1265044004397371393
    , @ogunsiron
    This particular piece of hate propaganda against Whites is working well.

    The thread is full of sassy black women (who must be scientists) outraged at the worst of america waging war against "frontline workers". A few of the pocs flat out "name the white".

    The usual catladies and soyboys blame MAGAs.

    The few MAGAs shout their new love for WHO propaganda about how masks don't work and "muh freedom" etc. They don't notice that this is actual hate propaganda against them and Whites in general. Nah.

    Very sad thread.
    , @Corvinus
    The fact of the matter is that Mr. Sailer is not providing the entire picture. It is accurate to say that quite a number of fine citizens, ranging from Dick and Jane to "vibrants", are NOT routinely engaging in those practices based on photographs from different perspectives, as well as aerial footage by law enforcement. Nor is there a purposeful, intentional, continual effort by the media and public officials to "trick" Americans when it comes to our conduct on nice days as being implied by our intrepid host.

    https://www.krgv.com/news/valley-infectious-disease-expert-expects-spike-in-covid-19-cases-after-holiday-weekend

    https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/05/24/indiana-porter-beach-memorial-day-weekend-covid-19-pandemic/

    https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/05/24/without-beaches-to-go-to-miamis-waterways-packed-with-boats/

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/24/us/gallery/memorial-day-weekend-2020/index.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVXWfH9mFbY

    The bottom line is how "mixed company” poses health risks for the “non-mixed company”.

    Hat Tip –> Anon[506] • Disclaimer
    Beach openings would most end up as household mixings, which is what lockdown is supposed to prevent. The unit of quarantine is the household, not the family, not the social friend group, not the romantic partner pair. Individual quarantine would be ideal, but the realities of living spaces prevent it. But a lot of people will end up meeting friends at the beach, or picking them up in their last-digit legal cars (observing social distancing … not).

    It is also interesting to NOTICE that a number of protestors against state shutdowns also did not consistently observe social distancing and mask protocols.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCpoZWnazs4

    https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article242040486.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=122&v=rtHckVUlFvw&feature=emb_title

    But these demonstrates are protected free speech. From the (gasp) NYT...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/19/opinion/coronavirus-first-amendment-protests.html
    , @Corvinus
    The fact of the matter is that Mr. Sailer is not providing the entire picture. It is accurate to say that quite a number of fine citizens, ranging from Dick and Jane to "vibrants", are NOT routinely engaging in those practices based on photographs from different perspectives, as well as aerial footage by law enforcement. Nor is there a purposeful, intentional, continual effort by the media and public officials to "trick" Americans when it comes to our conduct on nice days as being implied by our intrepid host.

    https://www.krgv.com/news/valley-infectious-disease-expert-expects-spike-in-covid-19-cases-after-holiday-weekend

    https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/05/24/indiana-porter-beach-memorial-day-weekend-covid-19-pandemic/

    https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/05/24/without-beaches-to-go-to-miamis-waterways-packed-with-boats/

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/24/us/gallery/memorial-day-weekend-2020/index.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVXWfH9mFbY

    The bottom line is how "mixed company” poses health risks for the “non-mixed company”.

    Hat Tip –> Anon506
    Beach openings would most end up as household mixings, which is what lockdown is supposed to prevent. The unit of quarantine is the household, not the family, not the social friend group, not the romantic partner pair. Individual quarantine would be ideal, but the realities of living spaces prevent it. But a lot of people will end up meeting friends at the beach, or picking them up in their last-digit legal cars (observing social distancing … not).

    It is also interesting to NOTICE that a number of protestors against state shutdowns also did not consistently observe social distancing and mask protocols.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCpoZWnazs4

    https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article242040486.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=122&v=rtHckVUlFvw&feature=emb_title

    But these demonstrates are protected free speech. From the (gasp) NYT...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/19/opinion/coronavirus-first-amendment-protests.html
    , @Corvinus
    The fact of the matter is that Mr. Sailer is not providing the entire picture. It is accurate to say that quite a number of fine citizens, ranging from Dick and Jane to "vibrants", are NOT routinely engaging in those practices based on photographs from different perspectives, as well as aerial footage by law enforcement. Nor is there a purposeful, intentional, continual effort by the media and public officials to "trick" Americans when it comes to our conduct on nice days as being implied by our intrepid host.

    https://www.krgv.com/news/valley-infectious-disease-expert-expects-spike-in-covid-19-cases-after-holiday-weekend

    https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/05/24/indiana-porter-beach-memorial-day-weekend-covid-19-pandemic/

    https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/05/24/without-beaches-to-go-to-miamis-waterways-packed-with-boats/

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/24/us/gallery/memorial-day-weekend-2020/index.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVXWfH9mFbY

    The bottom line is how "mixed company” poses health risks for the “non-mixed company”. From Anon506--Beach openings would most end up as household mixings, which is what lockdown is supposed to prevent. The unit of quarantine is the household, not the family, not the social friend group, not the romantic partner pair. Individual quarantine would be ideal, but the realities of living spaces prevent it. But a lot of people will end up meeting friends at the beach, or picking them up in their last-digit legal cars (observing social distancing … not).

    It is also interesting to NOTICE that a number of protestors against state shutdowns also did not consistently observe social distancing and mask protocols.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCpoZWnazs4

    https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article242040486.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=122&v=rtHckVUlFvw&feature=emb_title

    But these demonstrates are protected free speech. From the (gasp) NYT...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/19/opinion/coronavirus-first-amendment-protests.html
  8. With the block on social media I can’t see the tweet, but the actual report isn’t that bad: “Most are behaving themselves”. Here, from CBS Local.

  9. @Almost Missouri
    Since you pointed out this trick (which I knew about, but hadn't noticed how much it was being used), I now see it all the time.

    Strangely nowadays, the news services only seem to use it in majority white venues, even though I know that there are just as dense crowds in majority non-white venues too.

    I wonder what accounts for this peculiar one-sidedness?

    Haha. Actually, I don't. Feeding anti-white rage that whites are getting away something not permitted to non-whites is Job One at the MSM.

    That crowd in the Lake of Ozarks must be around 95% White.

    What are the odds any of them will self-quarantine?

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    By many criteria St Louis is the most dangerous city in America -- and the major threat is not someone coughing on you
  10. @Almost Missouri
    Since you pointed out this trick (which I knew about, but hadn't noticed how much it was being used), I now see it all the time.

    Strangely nowadays, the news services only seem to use it in majority white venues, even though I know that there are just as dense crowds in majority non-white venues too.

    I wonder what accounts for this peculiar one-sidedness?

    Haha. Actually, I don't. Feeding anti-white rage that whites are getting away something not permitted to non-whites is Job One at the MSM.

    That crowd in the Lake of Ozarks must be around 95% White.

    What are the odds any of them will self-quarantine?

  11. @Almost Missouri
    Since you pointed out this trick (which I knew about, but hadn't noticed how much it was being used), I now see it all the time.

    Strangely nowadays, the news services only seem to use it in majority white venues, even though I know that there are just as dense crowds in majority non-white venues too.

    I wonder what accounts for this peculiar one-sidedness?

    Haha. Actually, I don't. Feeding anti-white rage that whites are getting away something not permitted to non-whites is Job One at the MSM.

    This particular piece of hate propaganda against Whites is working well.

    The thread is full of sassy black women (who must be scientists) outraged at the worst of america waging war against “frontline workers”. A few of the pocs flat out “name the white”.

    The usual catladies and soyboys blame MAGAs.

    The few MAGAs shout their new love for WHO propaganda about how masks don’t work and “muh freedom” etc. They don’t notice that this is actual hate propaganda against them and Whites in general. Nah.

    Very sad thread.

  12. OT, but I just wanted to let our gracious host know that none other than the Centers for Disease Control has now officially confirmed it’s just the flu, bro. The coronavirus has a quite modest IFR of 0.26%. If you discount deaths that occurred in old folk abbotoires [read: nursing homes], the IFR is just 0.1%. That is literally just the flu.

    Just. The. Flu.

    The debate is over. Well, it actually has been over for a very long time already, but now it’s fat-lady-has-sung over. I really don’t want to see any more argumentation about this point. The issue now concerns how we are going to hold accountable those who demanded this globe-crucifying lockdown. Who are these people and what was their real motivation? The Thermidorian Reaction must begin.

    Congratulations to all the anti-panic voices who held the line against the endless media firestorm and the defection of many of their own friends. Your common sense and good judgment was validated in the end.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    If Intelligent Dasein, with his famously reliable good judgement says so ...
    , @yaph
    0.1% is the IFR for SYMPTOMATIC cases, the IFR for the flu is closer to 0.01%.
    , @Corvinus
    Wait, I thought that we shouldn't trust the federal government and its entities. Because Deep State. Now you are suggesting we go along with CDC statistics?

    What gives, man?
    , @Saxon
    Yes and now in some countries as a result of that revelation they're having newscasts about the conditions in those nursing homes. In Canada it's being carried out by the military, but of course the TV coverage isn't asking any hard questions like how this happened, how long it's been covered up, the life expectancy of people put into these places. They did talk about things like bug infestations, cockroaches, rotten food, expired medicine etc. but nothing about the people staffing these places abusing the old people and certainly not who those employees may be--foreign racial group labor scabs who . The most you got is some milquetoast innuendo about them being private for profit places. No hard questions about a system and country that produces these outcomes.
    , @MBlanc46
    Thermidorean Reaction. I love it when you speak French.
  13. @Intelligent Dasein
    OT, but I just wanted to let our gracious host know that none other than the Centers for Disease Control has now officially confirmed it's just the flu, bro. The coronavirus has a quite modest IFR of 0.26%. If you discount deaths that occurred in old folk abbotoires [read: nursing homes], the IFR is just 0.1%. That is literally just the flu.

    Just. The. Flu.

    The debate is over. Well, it actually has been over for a very long time already, but now it's fat-lady-has-sung over. I really don't want to see any more argumentation about this point. The issue now concerns how we are going to hold accountable those who demanded this globe-crucifying lockdown. Who are these people and what was their real motivation? The Thermidorian Reaction must begin.

    Congratulations to all the anti-panic voices who held the line against the endless media firestorm and the defection of many of their own friends. Your common sense and good judgment was validated in the end.

    If Intelligent Dasein, with his famously reliable good judgement says so …

    • Replies: @GoRedWings!
    If in a hole, stop digging. You have egg on your face because you panicked like all the old people. Your reputation as a noticer is severely and lastingly damaged.

    A mea culpa would be in order, not snark towards those who tell you the brutal truth. We criticize with love, your ad hominem only makes you look like a sore loser.
    , @Joe Stalin
    Steve Sailer is actually the "Platoon Sargent" character in this movie who wants everyone to live, even those that want to sacrifice themselves for the nation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=123ihd2TcFQ

    https://www1.zoechip.com/watch-movie/the-eternal-zero-53055.871960
  14. @Almost Missouri
    Since you pointed out this trick (which I knew about, but hadn't noticed how much it was being used), I now see it all the time.

    Strangely nowadays, the news services only seem to use it in majority white venues, even though I know that there are just as dense crowds in majority non-white venues too.

    I wonder what accounts for this peculiar one-sidedness?

    Haha. Actually, I don't. Feeding anti-white rage that whites are getting away something not permitted to non-whites is Job One at the MSM.

    The fact of the matter is that Mr. Sailer is not providing the entire picture. It is accurate to say that quite a number of fine citizens, ranging from Dick and Jane to “vibrants”, are NOT routinely engaging in those practices based on photographs from different perspectives, as well as aerial footage by law enforcement. Nor is there a purposeful, intentional, continual effort by the media and public officials to “trick” Americans when it comes to our conduct on nice days as being implied by our intrepid host.

    https://www.krgv.com/news/valley-infectious-disease-expert-expects-spike-in-covid-19-cases-after-holiday-weekend

    https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/05/24/indiana-porter-beach-memorial-day-weekend-covid-19-pandemic/

    https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/05/24/without-beaches-to-go-to-miamis-waterways-packed-with-boats/

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/24/us/gallery/memorial-day-weekend-2020/index.html

    The bottom line is how “mixed company” poses health risks for the “non-mixed company”.

    Hat Tip –> Anon[506] • Disclaimer
    Beach openings would most end up as household mixings, which is what lockdown is supposed to prevent. The unit of quarantine is the household, not the family, not the social friend group, not the romantic partner pair. Individual quarantine would be ideal, but the realities of living spaces prevent it. But a lot of people will end up meeting friends at the beach, or picking them up in their last-digit legal cars (observing social distancing … not).

    It is also interesting to NOTICE that a number of protestors against state shutdowns also did not consistently observe social distancing and mask protocols.

    https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article242040486.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=122&v=rtHckVUlFvw&feature=emb_title

    But these demonstrates are protected free speech. From the (gasp) NYT…

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/19/opinion/coronavirus-first-amendment-protests.html

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
  15. @Almost Missouri
    Since you pointed out this trick (which I knew about, but hadn't noticed how much it was being used), I now see it all the time.

    Strangely nowadays, the news services only seem to use it in majority white venues, even though I know that there are just as dense crowds in majority non-white venues too.

    I wonder what accounts for this peculiar one-sidedness?

    Haha. Actually, I don't. Feeding anti-white rage that whites are getting away something not permitted to non-whites is Job One at the MSM.

    The fact of the matter is that Mr. Sailer is not providing the entire picture. It is accurate to say that quite a number of fine citizens, ranging from Dick and Jane to “vibrants”, are NOT routinely engaging in those practices based on photographs from different perspectives, as well as aerial footage by law enforcement. Nor is there a purposeful, intentional, continual effort by the media and public officials to “trick” Americans when it comes to our conduct on nice days as being implied by our intrepid host.

    https://www.krgv.com/news/valley-infectious-disease-expert-expects-spike-in-covid-19-cases-after-holiday-weekend

    https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/05/24/indiana-porter-beach-memorial-day-weekend-covid-19-pandemic/

    https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/05/24/without-beaches-to-go-to-miamis-waterways-packed-with-boats/

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/24/us/gallery/memorial-day-weekend-2020/index.html

    The bottom line is how “mixed company” poses health risks for the “non-mixed company”.

    Hat Tip –> Anon506
    Beach openings would most end up as household mixings, which is what lockdown is supposed to prevent. The unit of quarantine is the household, not the family, not the social friend group, not the romantic partner pair. Individual quarantine would be ideal, but the realities of living spaces prevent it. But a lot of people will end up meeting friends at the beach, or picking them up in their last-digit legal cars (observing social distancing … not).

    It is also interesting to NOTICE that a number of protestors against state shutdowns also did not consistently observe social distancing and mask protocols.

    https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article242040486.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=122&v=rtHckVUlFvw&feature=emb_title

    But these demonstrates are protected free speech. From the (gasp) NYT…

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/19/opinion/coronavirus-first-amendment-protests.html

    • Replies: @anon
    http://www.tastyislandhawaii.com/images14/spam/spam_flavor_variety.jpg
  16. @Almost Missouri
    Since you pointed out this trick (which I knew about, but hadn't noticed how much it was being used), I now see it all the time.

    Strangely nowadays, the news services only seem to use it in majority white venues, even though I know that there are just as dense crowds in majority non-white venues too.

    I wonder what accounts for this peculiar one-sidedness?

    Haha. Actually, I don't. Feeding anti-white rage that whites are getting away something not permitted to non-whites is Job One at the MSM.

    The fact of the matter is that Mr. Sailer is not providing the entire picture. It is accurate to say that quite a number of fine citizens, ranging from Dick and Jane to “vibrants”, are NOT routinely engaging in those practices based on photographs from different perspectives, as well as aerial footage by law enforcement. Nor is there a purposeful, intentional, continual effort by the media and public officials to “trick” Americans when it comes to our conduct on nice days as being implied by our intrepid host.

    https://www.krgv.com/news/valley-infectious-disease-expert-expects-spike-in-covid-19-cases-after-holiday-weekend

    https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/05/24/indiana-porter-beach-memorial-day-weekend-covid-19-pandemic/

    https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/05/24/without-beaches-to-go-to-miamis-waterways-packed-with-boats/

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/24/us/gallery/memorial-day-weekend-2020/index.html

    The bottom line is how “mixed company” poses health risks for the “non-mixed company”. From Anon506–Beach openings would most end up as household mixings, which is what lockdown is supposed to prevent. The unit of quarantine is the household, not the family, not the social friend group, not the romantic partner pair. Individual quarantine would be ideal, but the realities of living spaces prevent it. But a lot of people will end up meeting friends at the beach, or picking them up in their last-digit legal cars (observing social distancing … not).

    It is also interesting to NOTICE that a number of protestors against state shutdowns also did not consistently observe social distancing and mask protocols.

    https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article242040486.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=122&v=rtHckVUlFvw&feature=emb_title

    But these demonstrates are protected free speech. From the (gasp) NYT…

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/19/opinion/coronavirus-first-amendment-protests.html

    • Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Gay Spam: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  17. I’m running out of “Troll” comments. Cunning plan, keep posting the same post.

    The Daily Mail is doing the same.

    Caption – “The packed beach in Bournemouth this afternoon. People in England are now allowed to travel for day trips but must stay at least six feet away from people who are not from their household, something that is difficult in such crowded areas

    Then, to be fair to them, they show part of the same beach from the air.

    People look to be keeping two metres from the next group. Six foot six isn’t a huge distance.

  18. @Corvinus
    The fact of the matter is that Mr. Sailer is not providing the entire picture. It is accurate to say that quite a number of fine citizens, ranging from Dick and Jane to "vibrants", are NOT routinely engaging in those practices based on photographs from different perspectives, as well as aerial footage by law enforcement. Nor is there a purposeful, intentional, continual effort by the media and public officials to "trick" Americans when it comes to our conduct on nice days as being implied by our intrepid host.

    https://www.krgv.com/news/valley-infectious-disease-expert-expects-spike-in-covid-19-cases-after-holiday-weekend

    https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/05/24/indiana-porter-beach-memorial-day-weekend-covid-19-pandemic/

    https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/05/24/without-beaches-to-go-to-miamis-waterways-packed-with-boats/

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/24/us/gallery/memorial-day-weekend-2020/index.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVXWfH9mFbY

    The bottom line is how "mixed company” poses health risks for the “non-mixed company”. From Anon506--Beach openings would most end up as household mixings, which is what lockdown is supposed to prevent. The unit of quarantine is the household, not the family, not the social friend group, not the romantic partner pair. Individual quarantine would be ideal, but the realities of living spaces prevent it. But a lot of people will end up meeting friends at the beach, or picking them up in their last-digit legal cars (observing social distancing … not).

    It is also interesting to NOTICE that a number of protestors against state shutdowns also did not consistently observe social distancing and mask protocols.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCpoZWnazs4

    https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article242040486.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=122&v=rtHckVUlFvw&feature=emb_title

    But these demonstrates are protected free speech. From the (gasp) NYT...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/19/opinion/coronavirus-first-amendment-protests.html

    • Gay Spam: Je Suis Omar Mateen

    • LOL: Ben tillman
  19. More Fun and Games with Telephoto Lenses

    Did Bill and Monica know about this? Sounds much more intense than cigars.

  20. Anonymous[424] • Disclaimer says:

    The Meskhetian Turks are Turkish people who formerly inhabited the Meskheti region of Georgia, along the Turkish border. In 1944 Stalin, planning for a possible war with Turkey, deported them to Central Asia. Most went to Uzbekistan, where they were not welcomed by the native Uzbeks. Discrimination and occasional violence flared up into outright pogrom in 1989 and as the Soviet Union collapsed most left Uzbekistan, though they were not allowed to return to Georgia. Many went to Turkey. There, they told the local Turkish people what had happened to them, and a funny thing happened. You see, many (not all) Turkish nationalists believe in pan-Turkism. Uzbeks are a Turkic people, and on the theory of “pan-Turkic brotherhood,” the Meskhetian Turks were told that the Uzbek persecutions of them did not happen. Or, if they happened, they were entirely due to “Soviet provocateurs.” Meskhetian Turks who said that we saw this with our own eyes, the Soviet government might have exploited it but their hatred for us was real, were told to shut up, shill. Okay, they didn’t use the word “shill,” but you get the idea.

    How does this relate to coronavirus? Well, I was trying to think of an international analog as stupid as coronavirus denial, and this is all I could come up with.

  21. @JohnnyWalker123
    That crowd in the Lake of Ozarks must be around 95% White.

    https://twitter.com/w_terrence/status/1264700825248559104

    What are the odds any of them will self-quarantine?

    https://twitter.com/zerwekh/status/1265044004397371393

    By many criteria St Louis is the most dangerous city in America — and the major threat is not someone coughing on you

    • Agree: AaronInMVD
  22. @The Alarmist
    The funniest report I saw yesterday was a CNN reporterette standing on Myrtle Beach holding a mask in her hands, complaining that nobody in the obviously socially distant groups sunbathing behind her wore masks.

    Caren News Network

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    I used to call them Chicken Noodle News, but it is increasingly the Childish News Network.
  23. @Intelligent Dasein
    OT, but I just wanted to let our gracious host know that none other than the Centers for Disease Control has now officially confirmed it's just the flu, bro. The coronavirus has a quite modest IFR of 0.26%. If you discount deaths that occurred in old folk abbotoires [read: nursing homes], the IFR is just 0.1%. That is literally just the flu.

    Just. The. Flu.

    The debate is over. Well, it actually has been over for a very long time already, but now it's fat-lady-has-sung over. I really don't want to see any more argumentation about this point. The issue now concerns how we are going to hold accountable those who demanded this globe-crucifying lockdown. Who are these people and what was their real motivation? The Thermidorian Reaction must begin.

    Congratulations to all the anti-panic voices who held the line against the endless media firestorm and the defection of many of their own friends. Your common sense and good judgment was validated in the end.

    0.1% is the IFR for SYMPTOMATIC cases, the IFR for the flu is closer to 0.01%.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    That's why there are 20,000 excess deaths in New York City: because the population of NYC is 200,000,000.
  24. @Corvinus
    The fact of the matter is that Mr. Sailer is not providing the entire picture. It is accurate to say that quite a number of fine citizens, ranging from Dick and Jane to "vibrants", are NOT routinely engaging in those practices based on photographs from different perspectives, as well as aerial footage by law enforcement. Nor is there a purposeful, intentional, continual effort by the media and public officials to "trick" Americans when it comes to our conduct on nice days as being implied by our intrepid host.

    https://www.krgv.com/news/valley-infectious-disease-expert-expects-spike-in-covid-19-cases-after-holiday-weekend

    https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/05/24/indiana-porter-beach-memorial-day-weekend-covid-19-pandemic/

    https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/05/24/without-beaches-to-go-to-miamis-waterways-packed-with-boats/

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/24/us/gallery/memorial-day-weekend-2020/index.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVXWfH9mFbY

    The bottom line is how "mixed company” poses health risks for the “non-mixed company”.

    Hat Tip –> Anon506
    Beach openings would most end up as household mixings, which is what lockdown is supposed to prevent. The unit of quarantine is the household, not the family, not the social friend group, not the romantic partner pair. Individual quarantine would be ideal, but the realities of living spaces prevent it. But a lot of people will end up meeting friends at the beach, or picking them up in their last-digit legal cars (observing social distancing … not).

    It is also interesting to NOTICE that a number of protestors against state shutdowns also did not consistently observe social distancing and mask protocols.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCpoZWnazs4

    https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article242040486.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=122&v=rtHckVUlFvw&feature=emb_title

    But these demonstrates are protected free speech. From the (gasp) NYT...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/19/opinion/coronavirus-first-amendment-protests.html

  25. @yaph
    0.1% is the IFR for SYMPTOMATIC cases, the IFR for the flu is closer to 0.01%.

    That’s why there are 20,000 excess deaths in New York City: because the population of NYC is 200,000,000.

    • Replies: @yaph
    Not sure if we actually disagree or I wasn't clear. If you assume there are 16,000 covid deaths and 20% of NYC is infected (1.6 million) that gives you a rough IFR of 0.9% i.e. very alarming. People compare that number to the quoted IFR of 0.1% to the flu but that is only for people who were symptomatic or hospitalized, the estimated IFR for the swine flu was 0.03% and for the seasonal flu 0.01%. Even if you compare apples to oranges and the symptomatic flu rate to the total COVID rate, you can see it's not just the flu.
  26. @Known Fact
    Caren News Network

    I used to call them Chicken Noodle News, but it is increasingly the Childish News Network.

  27. @Intelligent Dasein
    OT, but I just wanted to let our gracious host know that none other than the Centers for Disease Control has now officially confirmed it's just the flu, bro. The coronavirus has a quite modest IFR of 0.26%. If you discount deaths that occurred in old folk abbotoires [read: nursing homes], the IFR is just 0.1%. That is literally just the flu.

    Just. The. Flu.

    The debate is over. Well, it actually has been over for a very long time already, but now it's fat-lady-has-sung over. I really don't want to see any more argumentation about this point. The issue now concerns how we are going to hold accountable those who demanded this globe-crucifying lockdown. Who are these people and what was their real motivation? The Thermidorian Reaction must begin.

    Congratulations to all the anti-panic voices who held the line against the endless media firestorm and the defection of many of their own friends. Your common sense and good judgment was validated in the end.

    Wait, I thought that we shouldn’t trust the federal government and its entities. Because Deep State. Now you are suggesting we go along with CDC statistics?

    What gives, man?

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
  28. @Steve Sailer
    If Intelligent Dasein, with his famously reliable good judgement says so ...

    If in a hole, stop digging. You have egg on your face because you panicked like all the old people. Your reputation as a noticer is severely and lastingly damaged.

    A mea culpa would be in order, not snark towards those who tell you the brutal truth. We criticize with love, your ad hominem only makes you look like a sore loser.

    • Disagree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    That's both unfair and too generous to Steve.
    When Steve started posting on Coronavirus, the situation in Wuhan made it look apocalyptic, and we didn't have much info other than that it was related to SARS and MERS, especially the second of which really would be apocalyptic if it spread fast and widely.
    On the other hand, Steve got lost in the swamps of arguing over o.15 vs 1.5, which was a meaningless debate because the numbers weren't tied to anything. As soon as it was obvious that it wasn't an existential threat that would wipe out a generation of young, healthy people, then quibbling over percentage points was de facto admitting that we should be ruled by technocrats.
  29. yaph says:
    @Steve Sailer
    That's why there are 20,000 excess deaths in New York City: because the population of NYC is 200,000,000.

    Not sure if we actually disagree or I wasn’t clear. If you assume there are 16,000 covid deaths and 20% of NYC is infected (1.6 million) that gives you a rough IFR of 0.9% i.e. very alarming. People compare that number to the quoted IFR of 0.1% to the flu but that is only for people who were symptomatic or hospitalized, the estimated IFR for the swine flu was 0.03% and for the seasonal flu 0.01%. Even if you compare apples to oranges and the symptomatic flu rate to the total COVID rate, you can see it’s not just the flu.

  30. @Steve Sailer
    If Intelligent Dasein, with his famously reliable good judgement says so ...

    Steve Sailer is actually the “Platoon Sargent” character in this movie who wants everyone to live, even those that want to sacrifice themselves for the nation.

    https://www1.zoechip.com/watch-movie/the-eternal-zero-53055.871960

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Pretty much.
  31. @Joe Stalin
    Steve Sailer is actually the "Platoon Sargent" character in this movie who wants everyone to live, even those that want to sacrifice themselves for the nation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=123ihd2TcFQ

    https://www1.zoechip.com/watch-movie/the-eternal-zero-53055.871960

    Pretty much.

  32. @Redneck farmer
    I'm waiting for someone to say, " How can people have fun at a time like this?", to be honest.

    Well they’re brutally shaming Trump just for playing some golf while we near the “grim milestone” of 100,000 dead Americans. Of course we’re not nearing it fast enough for the NYT, which jumped the gun a bit Sunday.

  33. Telephoto has something to do with it, but also perspective. If you take a picture down a long walkway or alley, it will look more crowded because it is difficult to judge distance between the people – it “flattens” perspective to use a popular term. If you took it perpendicular to the alley or walkway, you could judge distance between people more fairly, which is what a lot of the aerial photos do.

  34. I quote Henry James describing the sight of an empty Boston street at night in the 1880s:

    “The houses were dark in the AUGUST night and the perspective of Beacon Street,

    with its double chain of lamps,

    was a foreshadowed desert.”

  35. @Intelligent Dasein
    OT, but I just wanted to let our gracious host know that none other than the Centers for Disease Control has now officially confirmed it's just the flu, bro. The coronavirus has a quite modest IFR of 0.26%. If you discount deaths that occurred in old folk abbotoires [read: nursing homes], the IFR is just 0.1%. That is literally just the flu.

    Just. The. Flu.

    The debate is over. Well, it actually has been over for a very long time already, but now it's fat-lady-has-sung over. I really don't want to see any more argumentation about this point. The issue now concerns how we are going to hold accountable those who demanded this globe-crucifying lockdown. Who are these people and what was their real motivation? The Thermidorian Reaction must begin.

    Congratulations to all the anti-panic voices who held the line against the endless media firestorm and the defection of many of their own friends. Your common sense and good judgment was validated in the end.

    Yes and now in some countries as a result of that revelation they’re having newscasts about the conditions in those nursing homes. In Canada it’s being carried out by the military, but of course the TV coverage isn’t asking any hard questions like how this happened, how long it’s been covered up, the life expectancy of people put into these places. They did talk about things like bug infestations, cockroaches, rotten food, expired medicine etc. but nothing about the people staffing these places abusing the old people and certainly not who those employees may be–foreign racial group labor scabs who . The most you got is some milquetoast innuendo about them being private for profit places. No hard questions about a system and country that produces these outcomes.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    It's terrible but almost unavoidable. My parents moved from the midwest to the east coast. When my grandmothers got too old, there was no one to take care of them. At least one would not have agreed to move out of state. The other couldn't, I believe, having something to do with health insurance. In a society with our kind of mobility, the end is doomed to be lonely for many.
  36. @Intelligent Dasein
    OT, but I just wanted to let our gracious host know that none other than the Centers for Disease Control has now officially confirmed it's just the flu, bro. The coronavirus has a quite modest IFR of 0.26%. If you discount deaths that occurred in old folk abbotoires [read: nursing homes], the IFR is just 0.1%. That is literally just the flu.

    Just. The. Flu.

    The debate is over. Well, it actually has been over for a very long time already, but now it's fat-lady-has-sung over. I really don't want to see any more argumentation about this point. The issue now concerns how we are going to hold accountable those who demanded this globe-crucifying lockdown. Who are these people and what was their real motivation? The Thermidorian Reaction must begin.

    Congratulations to all the anti-panic voices who held the line against the endless media firestorm and the defection of many of their own friends. Your common sense and good judgment was validated in the end.

    Thermidorean Reaction. I love it when you speak French.

  37. It makes sharks at the beach look more menacing too.

  38. “So say not that the struggle for Telephoto Distortion Awareness nought availeth.”

    As when he helped expose the UVA hoax, the controversial Steve “everyone-reads-him-only-Ann-Coulter-admits-it” Sailer has struck yet another blow for reality.

  39. “Why are blacks somewhat harder hit by CV? They tend to be more gregarious, which is not a bad trait except during a respiratory epidemic.”

    White people are more gregarious, Mr. Sailer. Look at our accomplishments as a whole. Why are you attributing this trait to a different group rather than the correct group?

    “Also, blacks aren’t as persnickety about rules, such as “Maintain a Six-Foot Distance” or “Thou Shalt Not Kill.”

    Blacks…whites…Hispanics…Asians (well, maybe not them).

  40. @GoRedWings!
    If in a hole, stop digging. You have egg on your face because you panicked like all the old people. Your reputation as a noticer is severely and lastingly damaged.

    A mea culpa would be in order, not snark towards those who tell you the brutal truth. We criticize with love, your ad hominem only makes you look like a sore loser.

    That’s both unfair and too generous to Steve.
    When Steve started posting on Coronavirus, the situation in Wuhan made it look apocalyptic, and we didn’t have much info other than that it was related to SARS and MERS, especially the second of which really would be apocalyptic if it spread fast and widely.
    On the other hand, Steve got lost in the swamps of arguing over o.15 vs 1.5, which was a meaningless debate because the numbers weren’t tied to anything. As soon as it was obvious that it wasn’t an existential threat that would wipe out a generation of young, healthy people, then quibbling over percentage points was de facto admitting that we should be ruled by technocrats.

  41. @Saxon
    Yes and now in some countries as a result of that revelation they're having newscasts about the conditions in those nursing homes. In Canada it's being carried out by the military, but of course the TV coverage isn't asking any hard questions like how this happened, how long it's been covered up, the life expectancy of people put into these places. They did talk about things like bug infestations, cockroaches, rotten food, expired medicine etc. but nothing about the people staffing these places abusing the old people and certainly not who those employees may be--foreign racial group labor scabs who . The most you got is some milquetoast innuendo about them being private for profit places. No hard questions about a system and country that produces these outcomes.

    It’s terrible but almost unavoidable. My parents moved from the midwest to the east coast. When my grandmothers got too old, there was no one to take care of them. At least one would not have agreed to move out of state. The other couldn’t, I believe, having something to do with health insurance. In a society with our kind of mobility, the end is doomed to be lonely for many.

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