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Robert Lee

From Outkick the Coverage:

MSESPN Pulls Asian Announcer Named Robert Lee Off UVa Game To Avoid Offending Idiots

Posted on August 22, 2017 by Clay Travis – OKTC

In a story that seems made for The Onion, but is actually true, according to multiple Outkick fans inside ESPN. MSESPN decided to pull an Asian college football announcer named Robert Lee off the William and Mary at University of Virginia college football game because they were concerned that having an ASIAN FOOTBALL ANNOUNCER NAMED ROBERT LEE would be offensive to some viewers.

Did I mention that Robert Lee is Asian?

Is this even real life anymore? This might even be worse than MSESPN apologizing for the fantasy football slave draft a couple of weeks ago.

To avoid offending left wing idiots Robert Lee, the Asian college football announcer, not the Confederate General who died in 1870 and shares a name with him, was switched to the Youngstown State at Pittsburgh game and Dave Weekley will now call the William and Mary at University of Virginia game.

Unless someone tries to take down Dave Weekley statues between now and kickoff.

Update: ESPN has confirmed to USA Today that they switched Robert Lee off the Virginia game after Charlottesville.

Also, don’t forget the hub-bub in Los Angeles over USC’s mascot horse “Traveler” having a name that’s spelled almost the same as Robert E. Lee’s horse “Traveller.”

USC should invite Robert Lee to ride Traveler at the UCLA game in November.

Commenter Bubba suggests that for the sake of his career, Robert Lee should change his name to something less controversial, such as Robert Mugabe.

 
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  1. Anonymous [AKA "Superdude"] says:
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    ESPN has issued a statement confirming it according to Outkick the Coverage:

    UPDATE: ESPN ISSUES OFFICIAL STATEMENT ON MOVING ROBERT LEE FROM VIRGINIA GAME:

    “We collectively made the decision with Robert to switch games as the tragic events in Charlottesville were unfolding, simply because of the coincidence of his name. In that moment it felt right to all parties. It’s a shame that this is even a topic of conversation and we regret that who calls play by play for a football game has become an issue.”

    Replies: @EdwardM, @Achmed E. Newman

    , @SMK
    @Anonymous

    Yes, it's true. The Tucker Carlson show had a segment on this lunacy (which he thought was a "joke" until it's veracity was confirmed) in which he interviews a reporter who quotes a statement by ESPN. The reporter also told Carlson that 94% of ESPN anchors and reporters voted for Hillary Clinton.

    While riding a stationary bike with a small TV at Anytime Fitness I also watched a segment on ESPN in which a black female anchor extolled the kneeling and holding hands of 10-12 black members of the Cleveland Browns during the national anthem to protest "racism." One white player also joined the protest and held hand with a black "brother" but was standing for some reason.

    One can envision a future in which all black players in the NFL and NBA will kneel during the national anthem and all white players who don't join them will be vilified and demonized as "racist." I suggest the NFL and NBA deny these millionaires the opportunity to display their victimhood by not playing the national anthem.

  2. • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @TontoBubbaGoldstein

    Thanks.

    Replies: @Amigo

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @TontoBubbaGoldstein

    I guess I got 2 decades on you, Tonto.

  3. @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYZjWzpX1cQ

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks.

    • Replies: @Amigo
    @Steve Sailer

    Those Bud Lite commercials were great. The guy in the commercial, Eddie Jemison did a fantastic job with the whole "Yes I am" phrase and brashness in attending the Asian Lee family reunion. Maybe I'm looking too closely, but Eddie Jemison looks like he is Jewish (for lack of a better description). And it's not just me, I asked a couple of co-workers what ethnicity they thought Eddie was and they came up with the same answer. Yet on IMDB his ethnic makeup is English/Irish on his dad's side and Italian/Sicilian from his mom. Do you think he has played up the look to maintain work in Hollywood? He has done steady acting work for most of his life. The list of Jewish actors in Hollywood in IMDB runs for 12 pages (1,109 people), so there's a lot of control there. http://showtime.imdb.com/list/ls063864172/

  4. Did I mention that Robert Lee is Asian?

    Yes, you did, Clay, but you forgot to mention that he was Oriental, hence the name Lee. That ties the story together. It doesn’t work for an Indian-Asian or Khazackstanian-Asian. Your way is just not Onion material, Mr. Travis, but tweet us if you come up with anything good.

    Sorry, I’m still on this What’s wrong with “Oriental”? kick. It too shall pass.

    BTW, this guy looks too yung to be the Chinese guy from the Calgon commercial, so what IS the problem again?

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The Orient is a broad term and it confuses Britishers. Why not just call him a Chinese (unless he's a Korean or something)?

    Replies: @Yak-15, @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Name Withheld
    @Achmed E. Newman

    That Calgon commercial has me wanting to jump in a time machine and go back, ... for good.

  5. Huh. I’ve got a relative who was named Robert after Robert E Lee…..Better tell him to make sure that he keeps mum about that…..Maybe he could start telling people that he was named after Robert the Bruce instead….

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @syonredux

    Born in the Commonwealth of Virginia in the 50s. Lee was by far the most common middle name for boys.

    Replies: @epebble

    , @Bubba
    @syonredux

    I would tell him to say he was named after Robert Mugabe for his sake.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  6. Will the blue jeans need to be renamed?

    • Replies: @sayless
    @njguy73

    The blue jeans will need to be renamed, and the insurance company Travellers' too.

  7. @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYZjWzpX1cQ

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Achmed E. Newman

    I guess I got 2 decades on you, Tonto.

  8. @Anonymous
    Not sure this story is true... https://twitter.com/_Almaqah/status/900152494210392064

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @SMK

    ESPN has issued a statement confirming it according to Outkick the Coverage:

    UPDATE: ESPN ISSUES OFFICIAL STATEMENT ON MOVING ROBERT LEE FROM VIRGINIA GAME:

    “We collectively made the decision with Robert to switch games as the tragic events in Charlottesville were unfolding, simply because of the coincidence of his name. In that moment it felt right to all parties. It’s a shame that this is even a topic of conversation and we regret that who calls play by play for a football game has become an issue.”

    • Replies: @EdwardM
    @Steve Sailer

    We still have reason to be skeptical. This update is from the same site that reported the original story and doesn't cite a link or name for this purported ESPN statement, which is also not visible from any official ESPN primary source.

    All of the other news sources I have seen just quote this blog. However, more recently Breitbart provided the only semi-corroboration I've seen so far:


    “We collectively made the decision with Robert to switch games as the tragic events in Charlottesville were unfolding, simply because of the coincidence of his name,” ESPN officials disclosed in a statement obtained from ESPN spokesman Derek Volner.
     
    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/08/22/espn-pulls-asian-broadcaster-robert-lee-virginia-football-game/

    Derek Volner's Twitter feed doesn't have this statement. He did tweet on 08/21 a link to "Complete list of college football games on ESPN's networks in week 1, including commentator assignments":

    https://twitter.com/DerekVolner/status/899713048881049600

    This list has Lee doing the Pitt-Youngstown St. game, not UVA-W&M. So if ESPN made this change, it was at least 24 hours ago.

    I wonder whether ESPN typically posts this type of information? Or if this was to try to bury the story? Or, if ESPN did make the change from Lee, it was earlier. Quite possible.

    If so, then it's possible that Mr. Volner committed a major gaffe by admitting it. If so, I wouldn't be surprised to see him fired. Had he not spoken, then ESPN could have denied or buried this as just the rumblings of anonymous employees (who may be Damore'd too).

    Or maybe Volner's statement is true and reflects ESPN's corporate position. In a sane world, they would be embarrassed to admit this, though of course we know that SJWs have no shame and in fact are proud to signal their virtue. If that's true, wouldn't they add more of an official imprimatur to the statement, at least via a tweet from Volner's account or from Robert Lee confirming it? Now that the story has gone semi-mainstream, that would make sense.

    Tucker Carlson and The Five on Fox News picked up on this. It's a delicious story if true; I hope that these outlets didn't fall for a scam.

    Replies: @EdwardM

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer

    If indeed, ESPN corporate people wrote this,


    “We collectively made the decision with Robert to switch games as the tragic events in Charlottesville were unfolding, simply because of the coincidence of his name. In that moment it felt right to all parties. It’s a shame that this is even a topic of conversation and we regret that who calls play by play for a football game has become an issue.”
     
    then that is about the most egregious example of Corporate Stupidity I've ever seen. I've seen a lot - I worked for a corporation of more than 100,000 people, just in one area, and you're bound to see some real stupidity there ... let's break down this stupidity snippet, shall we?

    ... simply because of the coincidence of his name.
     
    You admit it's a coincidence, though it's not even a big coincidence, as Robert and Lee are still some of the most common names around. Is that smart, then, to make a move based on some coincidental happening with absolutely no cause/effect relationship? What happens if some namesake of your CEO gets busted for being a child molester? Will you fire him on account of "coincidence"?

    In that moment it felt right to all parties.
     
    It's just corporate feelings, then? Are there any men at all working there at this point?

    It’s a shame that this is even a topic of conversation...
     
    YOU MADE IT A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION BY MAKING THIS STUPID MOVE! (Oh, or, "it's a shame people figured this out.", is that it?)

    ...we regret that who calls play by play for a football game has become an issue.
     
    You regret that already? You just made it an issue by doing it. Does it mean you corporate wussies are admitting you made a stupid move? What's the chances that you'll make more stupid moves like this "coincidence-based manpower reallocation", or CBMR? Could you show us your powerpoint slides with the bullet points?
  9. @syonredux
    Huh. I've got a relative who was named Robert after Robert E Lee.....Better tell him to make sure that he keeps mum about that.....Maybe he could start telling people that he was named after Robert the Bruce instead....

    Replies: @anonymous, @Bubba

    Born in the Commonwealth of Virginia in the 50s. Lee was by far the most common middle name for boys.

    • Replies: @epebble
    @anonymous

    "..... Second, they won't like your name. So here's what I want you to do. Tell them you have a funny first name—Iacocca— and that your family name is Lee. They ought to like that in the South."

    Interesting anecdote about Lee Iacocca (page 39):

    https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0307788687

  10. Robert Lee’s (the announcer) parents must have thought they are assimilating into American norm by changing the spelling of their name from Li to Lee. Or did the poor guy himself think he was advancing his career by doing this?

    ….

    Also in related news:

    • LOL: TomSchmidt
  11. Wouldn’t the name be more offensive to the yanks in a northern state like Pennsylvania than in his home state of Virginia?

    I guess logic went out the window a long time ago.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Polynikes

    No, the carpetbaggers in the South are the biggest virtue-signalers around.

    Colbert, et. al.

    , @Marty T
    @Polynikes

    Pennsylvania voted for Trump and Virginia didn't, so maybe PA has more racists who will welcome Asian Robert E. Lee calling a college football game.

    Replies: @27 year old

    , @George
    @Polynikes

    I guess logic went out the window a long time ago.

    When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead
    And the white knight is talking backwards
    And the red queen's off with her head
    Remember what the dormouse said
    Feed your head, feed your head - Jefferson Airplane

  12. @Achmed E. Newman

    Did I mention that Robert Lee is Asian?
     
    Yes, you did, Clay, but you forgot to mention that he was Oriental, hence the name Lee. That ties the story together. It doesn't work for an Indian-Asian or Khazackstanian-Asian. Your way is just not Onion material, Mr. Travis, but tweet us if you come up with anything good.

    Sorry, I'm still on this What's wrong with "Oriental"? kick. It too shall pass.


    BTW, this guy looks too yung to be the Chinese guy from the Calgon commercial, so what IS the problem again?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzixL7Ef-bI

    Replies: @Anon, @Name Withheld

    The Orient is a broad term and it confuses Britishers. Why not just call him a Chinese (unless he’s a Korean or something)?

    • Replies: @Yak-15
    @Anon

    What will Harper Lee's new name be?

    Replies: @Barnard

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Anon


    The Orient is a broad term and it confuses Britishers.
     
    Well, when you get an empire again on which the sun never sets, send me a tweet of some of your preferred nomenclature, OK old chap? ;-}

    I think the guy was (or is, I hope he's still around, but ....) Korean, come to think of it. I thought I read that on the youtube comments. There are many Korean Lee's, of course. As a direct reply, that the man was Chinese would not have been as good an assumption back then as now, unless one knew that commercial was really filmed at a laundry in Chinatown, Manhattan (full of ex- Hong-Kongers).

    "Oriental" describes the man, if one doesn't know where he or his family was from. Even Chinese people have admitted to me, that other than via skin color, they can't tell Chinese from Korean from Japanese from Vietnamese visually. On the skin color thing, it's only really dark skin that MAY give someone away as being from the Southern Orient.

    Now, the Filipinas have a different look, in my opinion, and most of the time, the same very nice body shape.

    Replies: @Ganderson, @nebulafox

  13. Did I mention that Robert Lee is Asian?

    Asians are honary Aryans.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Hippopotamusdrome


    Did I mention that Robert Lee is Asian?
     
    Does he own any slaves?
  14. A kooky list of people with the middle name Lee – HERE.

    F. Lee Bailey, John Lee Hooker, and R. Lee Ermey (but the R is for Ronald) are easy but UVA’s own Ralph Lee Sampson was one that suprised me.

  15. Travis has been doing yeomans work on the Kaepernick front as well.

    He has a daily nationwide radio show from 6-9 EST every morning on FoxSports and is about the closest thing to a moderate in a world of Keith’s Olbermans as you can get.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @SonOfStrom

    Bannon looks to be entering that massive hole in the media market himself.

  16. He couldn’t be allowed to go by “Bob” Lee for just one game? Somebody up the chain obviously wanted to virtue signal.

    • Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
    @notice

    No, because ESPN already has an announcer whose name is pronounced "Bob Lee" - although his last name is spelled "Ley".

    http://espnmediazone.com/us/bios/ley_bob/


    Here, however, is the actor Bobby Lee as Connie Chung On MADtv, complete with a wig and a dress. Intersectionality points galore!

    https://youtu.be/gt-a3gepkzM

  17. So I guess “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down” will be banned by Clear Channel radio stations now, because it mentions Robert E. Lee.

    Clear Channel was the company that banned all manner of songs from their stations after Sept. 11, some of which were ridiculously irrelevant.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Days of Broken Arrows

    And the Robert E. Lee in the song is not the person but the steamboat.

    , @Saint Louis
    @Days of Broken Arrows

    Let's hope they don't hear this: https://youtu.be/oAFjBSPUQJk

  18. still open for voting:

    ESPN SportsNation
    PollCenter

    WHO IS THE BIGGEST TRAITOR?

    Kyrie Irving who demanded a trade so as not to play with LeBron James who got him a ring — 62%

    Jon “Bones” Jones who tested positive for drugs in UFC 214 after Dana White gave him chance after chance — 36%

    Robert E. Lee who turned down Lincoln’s offer to command the Union army to fight for the Confederacy — 2%

    VOTE NOW: #PulseOfTheNation

    • LOL: Bubba
  19. @Anon
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The Orient is a broad term and it confuses Britishers. Why not just call him a Chinese (unless he's a Korean or something)?

    Replies: @Yak-15, @Achmed E. Newman

    What will Harper Lee’s new name be?

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @Yak-15

    They could use Capote since he more than likely either wrote or heavily edited the book that made her famous.

    Replies: @e

  20. But the harder question is if his name was Robert Li, should he still be removed or not ?

  21. @Days of Broken Arrows
    So I guess "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" will be banned by Clear Channel radio stations now, because it mentions Robert E. Lee.

    Clear Channel was the company that banned all manner of songs from their stations after Sept. 11, some of which were ridiculously irrelevant.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Saint Louis

    And the Robert E. Lee in the song is not the person but the steamboat.

  22. @Hippopotamusdrome


    Did I mention that Robert Lee is Asian?

     

    Asians are honary Aryans.

    Replies: @anon

    Did I mention that Robert Lee is Asian?

    Does he own any slaves?

  23. @SonOfStrom
    Travis has been doing yeomans work on the Kaepernick front as well.

    He has a daily nationwide radio show from 6-9 EST every morning on FoxSports and is about the closest thing to a moderate in a world of Keith's Olbermans as you can get.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Bannon looks to be entering that massive hole in the media market himself.

  24. @Polynikes
    Wouldn't the name be more offensive to the yanks in a northern state like Pennsylvania than in his home state of Virginia?

    I guess logic went out the window a long time ago.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Marty T, @George

    No, the carpetbaggers in the South are the biggest virtue-signalers around.

    Colbert, et. al.

  25. @Achmed E. Newman

    Did I mention that Robert Lee is Asian?
     
    Yes, you did, Clay, but you forgot to mention that he was Oriental, hence the name Lee. That ties the story together. It doesn't work for an Indian-Asian or Khazackstanian-Asian. Your way is just not Onion material, Mr. Travis, but tweet us if you come up with anything good.

    Sorry, I'm still on this What's wrong with "Oriental"? kick. It too shall pass.


    BTW, this guy looks too yung to be the Chinese guy from the Calgon commercial, so what IS the problem again?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzixL7Ef-bI

    Replies: @Anon, @Name Withheld

    That Calgon commercial has me wanting to jump in a time machine and go back, … for good.

  26. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    ESPN has issued a statement confirming it according to Outkick the Coverage:

    UPDATE: ESPN ISSUES OFFICIAL STATEMENT ON MOVING ROBERT LEE FROM VIRGINIA GAME:

    “We collectively made the decision with Robert to switch games as the tragic events in Charlottesville were unfolding, simply because of the coincidence of his name. In that moment it felt right to all parties. It’s a shame that this is even a topic of conversation and we regret that who calls play by play for a football game has become an issue.”

    Replies: @EdwardM, @Achmed E. Newman

    We still have reason to be skeptical. This update is from the same site that reported the original story and doesn’t cite a link or name for this purported ESPN statement, which is also not visible from any official ESPN primary source.

    All of the other news sources I have seen just quote this blog. However, more recently Breitbart provided the only semi-corroboration I’ve seen so far:

    “We collectively made the decision with Robert to switch games as the tragic events in Charlottesville were unfolding, simply because of the coincidence of his name,” ESPN officials disclosed in a statement obtained from ESPN spokesman Derek Volner.

    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/08/22/espn-pulls-asian-broadcaster-robert-lee-virginia-football-game/

    Derek Volner’s Twitter feed doesn’t have this statement. He did tweet on 08/21 a link to “Complete list of college football games on ESPN’s networks in week 1, including commentator assignments”:

    This list has Lee doing the Pitt-Youngstown St. game, not UVA-W&M. So if ESPN made this change, it was at least 24 hours ago.

    I wonder whether ESPN typically posts this type of information? Or if this was to try to bury the story? Or, if ESPN did make the change from Lee, it was earlier. Quite possible.

    If so, then it’s possible that Mr. Volner committed a major gaffe by admitting it. If so, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him fired. Had he not spoken, then ESPN could have denied or buried this as just the rumblings of anonymous employees (who may be Damore’d too).

    Or maybe Volner’s statement is true and reflects ESPN’s corporate position. In a sane world, they would be embarrassed to admit this, though of course we know that SJWs have no shame and in fact are proud to signal their virtue. If that’s true, wouldn’t they add more of an official imprimatur to the statement, at least via a tweet from Volner’s account or from Robert Lee confirming it? Now that the story has gone semi-mainstream, that would make sense.

    Tucker Carlson and The Five on Fox News picked up on this. It’s a delicious story if true; I hope that these outlets didn’t fall for a scam.

    • Replies: @EdwardM
    @EdwardM

    Now USA Today has run the story, citing "an ESPN executive, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the situation."

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/08/22/espn-pulls-announcer-robert-lee-off-virginia-game-charlottesville-protests/592458001/

    Replies: @Anonymous

  27. Off topic but the MSM appears to have misreported a “hate crime” from Charlottesville regarding Deandre Harris being beaten by “white supremacists” (one of which is a Puerto Rican 3%er).

    Harris has collected $166,135 through crowdfunding on GoFundMe.

    There is a GIF of Harris hitting a man with a weapon of some kind here: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6ulun3/posting_this_for_exposure_video_of_deandre_harris/

    Direct link to the GIF:

    Harris has also claimed he was subjected to racial slurs but the video evidence tells a somewhat different story as can be seen here:

    Some analysis of the video here https://vid.me/VVIH7 and here

    An illustrative photo here https://mobile.twitter.com/nontolerantman/status/899426350599221249/photo/2

    Transracial activist Shaun King has been pushing the story hard offering rewards for identifying people involved and calling for arrests.

    The governor has also called for arrests and prosecutions.

    I’ve not seem this side of the story reported anywhere yet.

  28. Reminding me of “Vic Hitler” on Hill Street Blues.

  29. I hope the clowns at ESPN and the rest of the corporate clowns continue to do this. It won’t be too far in the future when the ridicule from the rest of the country will make them stop.

    Ridicule is the only thing that will stop it and the rest of the agenda…

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @AB-


    Ridicule is the only thing that will stop it and the rest of the agenda…
     
    ... or cutting off the cable service. It's not that hard people, and after 2 months you will not miss any of the force-fed BS and you will realize you have more time for your kids, blogging, commenting on iSteve, hobbies, blogging ... The extra $35/month buys a lot of toy Monster Trucks err, learning toys, yeah, that's the ticket.
  30. Good names / BAD names

    I’m a “first-generation” American. Born on Constitution Day in 1942. Same day/month as my grandfather, born in Europe, 1875.

    In commemoration of the Constitution Day coincidence, my new-to-America. history-savvy parents middle-named me Jeffery . . . In honor of . . . Thomas Jefferson.

    For many decades in my youth, I had great fun with . . . Hey, it’s my birthday! Same day as my grandfather’s! And doncha know it’s CONSTITUTION DAY! Yeah, everybody’s day! Too!

    My shirt-tail uncle Alex, Darby’s Rangers, is reputed to be the first American to kill a Nazi soldier. Dieppe France, summer of 1942. A good rifle? “One you can still manage to re-load and fire if you’re laying on the ground with both legs and one arm blown off.”

    Me? (Jeffery) Grandpa? The Constitution? I think I’m gonna need a good rifle.

  31. We want politics out of sports. But let us scrutinize your announcer placement decisions because politics.” — You people

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    @Tiny Duck

    ESPN is the one politicizing sports you troll, they removed a guy who is Asian from a broadcast of a Virginia vs. William and Mary football because his name was Robert Lee, like the Confederate general. Steve didn't reassign him or make a political issue of his name, ESPN did. This blog pointing out that other people are politicizing sports is not politicizing sports, it's criticizing people who are, but apparently causality is a concept your little feeble mind can't possibly comprehend.

  32. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Crazy baizuos at it again! This seems like a job for Next Animation Studio (the Taiwanese animation crew). It seems they actually have a suggestion page, and it allows votes. Unfortunately, it seems you have to register to submit a suggestion, and you have to register via your facebook account. Alas (I mean, thank God!) I don’t have facebook. But if anyone does…
    Here is the suggestion page:
    http://suggest.tomonews.com/
    I was going to submit the Fox News link:
    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/08/22/espn-pulls-asian-american-announcer-from-virginia-football-game-because-has-confederate-generals-name.html

    /r/The_Donald has around 500,000 people. (I briefly had a fake account there but I lost my username.) If this got to the top of The_Donald, all of Asia will be laughing soon! We could even resolve the Korea crisis: Kim Jong Un and Donald could be laughing together!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    I just registered a throwaway account for reddit.com/r/The_Donald and posted a similar plea there:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6vgftz/battle_stations_lets_get_taiwanese_animation_for/?st=j6ohi2id&sh=1d9219f2

  33. Murray Kempton on Do the Right Thing, which was of course “A Spike LEE Joint”: “After Sal’s Pizzeria had been put to the torch, its assailants turned to face the Korean grocery across the street, and its proprietor cooled their rage with a reminder that he, too, was a man of color. The extreme unlikelihood of this reconciliation made me wonder for a moment whether the producer’s last name could permit inferences of an Asian-American origin.”

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Tom Scarlett

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike_Lee


    Shelton Jackson "Spike" Lee (born March 20, 1957) is an American film director, producer, writer, and actor.
     
  34. @Yak-15
    @Anon

    What will Harper Lee's new name be?

    Replies: @Barnard

    They could use Capote since he more than likely either wrote or heavily edited the book that made her famous.

    • Replies: @e
    @Barnard

    Long on rumor, short on facts.

  35. @Days of Broken Arrows
    So I guess "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" will be banned by Clear Channel radio stations now, because it mentions Robert E. Lee.

    Clear Channel was the company that banned all manner of songs from their stations after Sept. 11, some of which were ridiculously irrelevant.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Saint Louis

    Let’s hope they don’t hear this:

  36. @Polynikes
    Wouldn't the name be more offensive to the yanks in a northern state like Pennsylvania than in his home state of Virginia?

    I guess logic went out the window a long time ago.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Marty T, @George

    Pennsylvania voted for Trump and Virginia didn’t, so maybe PA has more racists who will welcome Asian Robert E. Lee calling a college football game.

    • Replies: @27 year old
    @Marty T

    >Pennsylvania voted for Trump and Virginia didn’t

    Virginia voted for Trump, DC didn't

  37. @anonymous
    @syonredux

    Born in the Commonwealth of Virginia in the 50s. Lee was by far the most common middle name for boys.

    Replies: @epebble

    “….. Second, they won’t like your name. So here’s what I want you to do. Tell them you have a funny first name—Iacocca— and that your family name is Lee. They ought to like that in the South.”

    Interesting anecdote about Lee Iacocca (page 39):

    https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0307788687

  38. ESPN never disappoints.

  39. @Barnard
    @Yak-15

    They could use Capote since he more than likely either wrote or heavily edited the book that made her famous.

    Replies: @e

    Long on rumor, short on facts.

  40. Thank goodness Bruce Lee isn’t around to see this.

  41. @Anonymous
    Crazy baizuos at it again! This seems like a job for Next Animation Studio (the Taiwanese animation crew). It seems they actually have a suggestion page, and it allows votes. Unfortunately, it seems you have to register to submit a suggestion, and you have to register via your facebook account. Alas (I mean, thank God!) I don't have facebook. But if anyone does...
    Here is the suggestion page:
    http://suggest.tomonews.com/
    I was going to submit the Fox News link:
    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/08/22/espn-pulls-asian-american-announcer-from-virginia-football-game-because-has-confederate-generals-name.html

    /r/The_Donald has around 500,000 people. (I briefly had a fake account there but I lost my username.) If this got to the top of The_Donald, all of Asia will be laughing soon! We could even resolve the Korea crisis: Kim Jong Un and Donald could be laughing together!

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I just registered a throwaway account for reddit.com/r/The_Donald and posted a similar plea there:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6vgftz/battle_stations_lets_get_taiwanese_animation_for/?st=j6ohi2id&sh=1d9219f2

  42. @EdwardM
    @Steve Sailer

    We still have reason to be skeptical. This update is from the same site that reported the original story and doesn't cite a link or name for this purported ESPN statement, which is also not visible from any official ESPN primary source.

    All of the other news sources I have seen just quote this blog. However, more recently Breitbart provided the only semi-corroboration I've seen so far:


    “We collectively made the decision with Robert to switch games as the tragic events in Charlottesville were unfolding, simply because of the coincidence of his name,” ESPN officials disclosed in a statement obtained from ESPN spokesman Derek Volner.
     
    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/08/22/espn-pulls-asian-broadcaster-robert-lee-virginia-football-game/

    Derek Volner's Twitter feed doesn't have this statement. He did tweet on 08/21 a link to "Complete list of college football games on ESPN's networks in week 1, including commentator assignments":

    https://twitter.com/DerekVolner/status/899713048881049600

    This list has Lee doing the Pitt-Youngstown St. game, not UVA-W&M. So if ESPN made this change, it was at least 24 hours ago.

    I wonder whether ESPN typically posts this type of information? Or if this was to try to bury the story? Or, if ESPN did make the change from Lee, it was earlier. Quite possible.

    If so, then it's possible that Mr. Volner committed a major gaffe by admitting it. If so, I wouldn't be surprised to see him fired. Had he not spoken, then ESPN could have denied or buried this as just the rumblings of anonymous employees (who may be Damore'd too).

    Or maybe Volner's statement is true and reflects ESPN's corporate position. In a sane world, they would be embarrassed to admit this, though of course we know that SJWs have no shame and in fact are proud to signal their virtue. If that's true, wouldn't they add more of an official imprimatur to the statement, at least via a tweet from Volner's account or from Robert Lee confirming it? Now that the story has gone semi-mainstream, that would make sense.

    Tucker Carlson and The Five on Fox News picked up on this. It's a delicious story if true; I hope that these outlets didn't fall for a scam.

    Replies: @EdwardM

    Now USA Today has run the story, citing “an ESPN executive, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the situation.”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/08/22/espn-pulls-announcer-robert-lee-off-virginia-game-charlottesville-protests/592458001/

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @EdwardM

    "They were worried that his big moment... might turn into a national joke."

    Umm, yeah.

  43. He should call himself Robert E(SPN) Lee to troll, it might boost the ratings.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonym

    Maybe Robert Lee should do the play-by-play for UNLV?

    Replies: @EriK

  44. Chinese-American people still give their children good old fashioned 1950s/1960s-era American names, like Robert, Gary, Kevin, Susan, Denise, etc. Whereas white people nowadays give their kids all kinds of ridiculous, bogus, made-up names.

    Thank God for the Chinese. Who else is going to preserve Western Civilization? Certainly not westerners.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Mr. Anon

    Not all the time, Mr. Anon. In this post about the ridiculous modern last-name first names, I mentioned that I met a Chinese lady who's boy's American first name is Benson. I meant, WTF, man lady?

    How about name him after a man of the cloth, call him Amos Moses?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7GyLr7Cz2g

    Replies: @Anon, @Mr. Anon

  45. @syonredux
    Huh. I've got a relative who was named Robert after Robert E Lee.....Better tell him to make sure that he keeps mum about that.....Maybe he could start telling people that he was named after Robert the Bruce instead....

    Replies: @anonymous, @Bubba

    I would tell him to say he was named after Robert Mugabe for his sake.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Bubba

    Brutal!
    But I've got a suspicion that Mugabe's love for Asians is only very slightly less than his love for whites....
    But I've got to give credit when due: he has been a very successful African dictator, at least when it comes to the staying alive and in power metric.

    Replies: @Bubba

  46. @EdwardM
    @EdwardM

    Now USA Today has run the story, citing "an ESPN executive, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the situation."

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/08/22/espn-pulls-announcer-robert-lee-off-virginia-game-charlottesville-protests/592458001/

    Replies: @Anonymous

    “They were worried that his big moment… might turn into a national joke.”

    Umm, yeah.

    • Agree: San Fernando Curt
  47. ESPN has been trying to cash in on these PC stunts for years by trying to earn more Virtue Signaling merit badges from beta males and women who don’t shave their armpits. The day after the awful Sandy Hook 2012 massacre, the ESPN talking head/commentator of the New Mexico Bowl said that they would not say or refer to the word “pistol” that was used to described the Nevada Wolfpack offense (as in the “Pistol offense”) because it might offend the audience.

  48. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bubba
    @syonredux

    I would tell him to say he was named after Robert Mugabe for his sake.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Brutal!
    But I’ve got a suspicion that Mugabe’s love for Asians is only very slightly less than his love for whites….
    But I’ve got to give credit when due: he has been a very successful African dictator, at least when it comes to the staying alive and in power metric.

    • Replies: @Bubba
    @Anonymous

    LOL! Thanks and now you make me wonder if Mugabe is also fleecing the Chinese as the Congolese are doing now. You got that right about Mugabe's success as a dictator - 30 years (and still running) in Africa is a very impressive run. In my opinion (as despots go) Castro only survived longer because he was on an island despite the early 60's unsuccessful CIA/Mafia assassination attempts.

  49. I just laughed. And laughed. And laughed. It’s funny as heck. But after the beer wears off, I might cry a little inside about where our country and culture are today.

  50. America’s wokest librarian April Hathcock wants Charles Lindbergh’s corpse disinterred and hung.

  51. He should feel damn lucky he wasn’t carted off by a wrecking crew in the middle of the night.

  52. @Anonymous
    @Bubba

    Brutal!
    But I've got a suspicion that Mugabe's love for Asians is only very slightly less than his love for whites....
    But I've got to give credit when due: he has been a very successful African dictator, at least when it comes to the staying alive and in power metric.

    Replies: @Bubba

    LOL! Thanks and now you make me wonder if Mugabe is also fleecing the Chinese as the Congolese are doing now. You got that right about Mugabe’s success as a dictator – 30 years (and still running) in Africa is a very impressive run. In my opinion (as despots go) Castro only survived longer because he was on an island despite the early 60’s unsuccessful CIA/Mafia assassination attempts.

  53. And I forgot to mention that both Mugabe and Castro were educated by Jesuits. Go Hoyas!

  54. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    ESPN has issued a statement confirming it according to Outkick the Coverage:

    UPDATE: ESPN ISSUES OFFICIAL STATEMENT ON MOVING ROBERT LEE FROM VIRGINIA GAME:

    “We collectively made the decision with Robert to switch games as the tragic events in Charlottesville were unfolding, simply because of the coincidence of his name. In that moment it felt right to all parties. It’s a shame that this is even a topic of conversation and we regret that who calls play by play for a football game has become an issue.”

    Replies: @EdwardM, @Achmed E. Newman

    If indeed, ESPN corporate people wrote this,

    “We collectively made the decision with Robert to switch games as the tragic events in Charlottesville were unfolding, simply because of the coincidence of his name. In that moment it felt right to all parties. It’s a shame that this is even a topic of conversation and we regret that who calls play by play for a football game has become an issue.”

    then that is about the most egregious example of Corporate Stupidity I’ve ever seen. I’ve seen a lot – I worked for a corporation of more than 100,000 people, just in one area, and you’re bound to see some real stupidity there … let’s break down this stupidity snippet, shall we?

    … simply because of the coincidence of his name.

    You admit it’s a coincidence, though it’s not even a big coincidence, as Robert and Lee are still some of the most common names around. Is that smart, then, to make a move based on some coincidental happening with absolutely no cause/effect relationship? What happens if some namesake of your CEO gets busted for being a child molester? Will you fire him on account of “coincidence”?

    In that moment it felt right to all parties.

    It’s just corporate feelings, then? Are there any men at all working there at this point?

    It’s a shame that this is even a topic of conversation…

    YOU MADE IT A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION BY MAKING THIS STUPID MOVE! (Oh, or, “it’s a shame people figured this out.”, is that it?)

    …we regret that who calls play by play for a football game has become an issue.

    You regret that already? You just made it an issue by doing it. Does it mean you corporate wussies are admitting you made a stupid move? What’s the chances that you’ll make more stupid moves like this “coincidence-based manpower reallocation”, or CBMR? Could you show us your powerpoint slides with the bullet points?

  55. @Anon
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The Orient is a broad term and it confuses Britishers. Why not just call him a Chinese (unless he's a Korean or something)?

    Replies: @Yak-15, @Achmed E. Newman

    The Orient is a broad term and it confuses Britishers.

    Well, when you get an empire again on which the sun never sets, send me a tweet of some of your preferred nomenclature, OK old chap? ;-}

    I think the guy was (or is, I hope he’s still around, but ….) Korean, come to think of it. I thought I read that on the youtube comments. There are many Korean Lee’s, of course. As a direct reply, that the man was Chinese would not have been as good an assumption back then as now, unless one knew that commercial was really filmed at a laundry in Chinatown, Manhattan (full of ex- Hong-Kongers).

    “Oriental” describes the man, if one doesn’t know where he or his family was from. Even Chinese people have admitted to me, that other than via skin color, they can’t tell Chinese from Korean from Japanese from Vietnamese visually. On the skin color thing, it’s only really dark skin that MAY give someone away as being from the Southern Orient.

    Now, the Filipinas have a different look, in my opinion, and most of the time, the same very nice body shape.

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @Achmed E. Newman

    In Korea, if Mr. Park throws Mr. Kim out the window he lands on Mr. Lee.

    Lee, Park and Kim are like Anderson, Johnson and Olson in the upper Midwest.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @nebulafox
    @Achmed E. Newman

    He's probably Korean. Northern Virginia has a pretty heavy concentration of Korean-Americans. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Lee/Rhee is the second most common surname in Korea after Kim.

    As for the PI, it is something of an oddball as it is a heavily Hispanized culture in a sea of Confucian influenced (Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam) ones. In some ways, this is good (a lot more relaxed and friendly than the rest of the region), in some ways bad (if you think Mexico is bad with corruption/poverty, don't go close to Manila). I once knew a Chinese teenager who referred to them as "our Mexicans", and he wasn't really off the mark. The Filipino GDP is pretty much dependent on remittances.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  56. @AB-
    I hope the clowns at ESPN and the rest of the corporate clowns continue to do this. It won't be too far in the future when the ridicule from the rest of the country will make them stop.

    Ridicule is the only thing that will stop it and the rest of the agenda...

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Ridicule is the only thing that will stop it and the rest of the agenda…

    … or cutting off the cable service. It’s not that hard people, and after 2 months you will not miss any of the force-fed BS and you will realize you have more time for your kids, blogging, commenting on iSteve, hobbies, blogging … The extra $35/month buys a lot of toy Monster Trucks err, learning toys, yeah, that’s the ticket.

  57. @Mr. Anon
    Chinese-American people still give their children good old fashioned 1950s/1960s-era American names, like Robert, Gary, Kevin, Susan, Denise, etc. Whereas white people nowadays give their kids all kinds of ridiculous, bogus, made-up names.

    Thank God for the Chinese. Who else is going to preserve Western Civilization? Certainly not westerners.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Not all the time, Mr. Anon. In this post about the ridiculous modern last-name first names, I mentioned that I met a Chinese lady who’s boy’s American first name is Benson. I meant, WTF, man lady?

    How about name him after a man of the cloth, call him Amos Moses?

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Achmed E. Newman

    At least two Bensons were very famous men of the cloth-- the novelist Robert Hugh and his father Edward White, the Archbishop of Canterbury.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Desiderius

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Achmed E. Newman


    How about name him after a man of the cloth, call him Amos Moses?
     
    Great song, by the way.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  58. There is no accounting for the stupidity of the PC assholes.

  59. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Anon


    The Orient is a broad term and it confuses Britishers.
     
    Well, when you get an empire again on which the sun never sets, send me a tweet of some of your preferred nomenclature, OK old chap? ;-}

    I think the guy was (or is, I hope he's still around, but ....) Korean, come to think of it. I thought I read that on the youtube comments. There are many Korean Lee's, of course. As a direct reply, that the man was Chinese would not have been as good an assumption back then as now, unless one knew that commercial was really filmed at a laundry in Chinatown, Manhattan (full of ex- Hong-Kongers).

    "Oriental" describes the man, if one doesn't know where he or his family was from. Even Chinese people have admitted to me, that other than via skin color, they can't tell Chinese from Korean from Japanese from Vietnamese visually. On the skin color thing, it's only really dark skin that MAY give someone away as being from the Southern Orient.

    Now, the Filipinas have a different look, in my opinion, and most of the time, the same very nice body shape.

    Replies: @Ganderson, @nebulafox

    In Korea, if Mr. Park throws Mr. Kim out the window he lands on Mr. Lee.

    Lee, Park and Kim are like Anderson, Johnson and Olson in the upper Midwest.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Ganderson

    I remember hearing, from a Korean friend that 20% of Koreans are Kims. That would even be way above Smith in former America.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  60. Anonymous [AKA "news"] says: • Website

    May I simply say what a relief to find someone that actually knows what
    they’re discussing over the internet. You actually know how to bring a problem to light and make it important.
    A lot more people ought to read this and understand this side of your story.
    I can’t believe you’re not more popular given that you surely possess the gift.

  61. @Tiny Duck
    We want politics out of sports. But let us scrutinize your announcer placement decisions because politics." -- You people

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow

    ESPN is the one politicizing sports you troll, they removed a guy who is Asian from a broadcast of a Virginia vs. William and Mary football because his name was Robert Lee, like the Confederate general. Steve didn’t reassign him or make a political issue of his name, ESPN did. This blog pointing out that other people are politicizing sports is not politicizing sports, it’s criticizing people who are, but apparently causality is a concept your little feeble mind can’t possibly comprehend.

  62. @notice
    He couldn't be allowed to go by "Bob" Lee for just one game? Somebody up the chain obviously wanted to virtue signal.

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe

    No, because ESPN already has an announcer whose name is pronounced “Bob Lee” – although his last name is spelled “Ley”.

    http://espnmediazone.com/us/bios/ley_bob/

    Here, however, is the actor Bobby Lee as Connie Chung On MADtv, complete with a wig and a dress. Intersectionality points galore!

  63. @njguy73
    Will the blue jeans need to be renamed?

    Replies: @sayless

    The blue jeans will need to be renamed, and the insurance company Travellers’ too.

  64. Wherever a society is taken over by the Tribe, insanity reigns. Their entire worldview is built on narcissism and the nauseating belief that they are far superior to us. Therefore, you can’t be reminded of the names of great European American men.

  65. @Marty T
    @Polynikes

    Pennsylvania voted for Trump and Virginia didn't, so maybe PA has more racists who will welcome Asian Robert E. Lee calling a college football game.

    Replies: @27 year old

    >Pennsylvania voted for Trump and Virginia didn’t

    Virginia voted for Trump, DC didn’t

  66. SMK says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    Not sure this story is true... https://twitter.com/_Almaqah/status/900152494210392064

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @SMK

    Yes, it’s true. The Tucker Carlson show had a segment on this lunacy (which he thought was a “joke” until it’s veracity was confirmed) in which he interviews a reporter who quotes a statement by ESPN. The reporter also told Carlson that 94% of ESPN anchors and reporters voted for Hillary Clinton.

    While riding a stationary bike with a small TV at Anytime Fitness I also watched a segment on ESPN in which a black female anchor extolled the kneeling and holding hands of 10-12 black members of the Cleveland Browns during the national anthem to protest “racism.” One white player also joined the protest and held hand with a black “brother” but was standing for some reason.

    One can envision a future in which all black players in the NFL and NBA will kneel during the national anthem and all white players who don’t join them will be vilified and demonized as “racist.” I suggest the NFL and NBA deny these millionaires the opportunity to display their victimhood by not playing the national anthem.

  67. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Anon


    The Orient is a broad term and it confuses Britishers.
     
    Well, when you get an empire again on which the sun never sets, send me a tweet of some of your preferred nomenclature, OK old chap? ;-}

    I think the guy was (or is, I hope he's still around, but ....) Korean, come to think of it. I thought I read that on the youtube comments. There are many Korean Lee's, of course. As a direct reply, that the man was Chinese would not have been as good an assumption back then as now, unless one knew that commercial was really filmed at a laundry in Chinatown, Manhattan (full of ex- Hong-Kongers).

    "Oriental" describes the man, if one doesn't know where he or his family was from. Even Chinese people have admitted to me, that other than via skin color, they can't tell Chinese from Korean from Japanese from Vietnamese visually. On the skin color thing, it's only really dark skin that MAY give someone away as being from the Southern Orient.

    Now, the Filipinas have a different look, in my opinion, and most of the time, the same very nice body shape.

    Replies: @Ganderson, @nebulafox

    He’s probably Korean. Northern Virginia has a pretty heavy concentration of Korean-Americans. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think Lee/Rhee is the second most common surname in Korea after Kim.

    As for the PI, it is something of an oddball as it is a heavily Hispanized culture in a sea of Confucian influenced (Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam) ones. In some ways, this is good (a lot more relaxed and friendly than the rest of the region), in some ways bad (if you think Mexico is bad with corruption/poverty, don’t go close to Manila). I once knew a Chinese teenager who referred to them as “our Mexicans”, and he wasn’t really off the mark. The Filipino GDP is pretty much dependent on remittances.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @nebulafox

    Yeah, I'd heard some of that (your 2nd paragraph).

    About your 1st paragraph, I was talking about the Calgon Mr. Lee, haha... I don't know anything about Robert E Lee of ESPN notoriety. ;-}

  68. @Polynikes
    Wouldn't the name be more offensive to the yanks in a northern state like Pennsylvania than in his home state of Virginia?

    I guess logic went out the window a long time ago.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Marty T, @George

    I guess logic went out the window a long time ago.

    When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead
    And the white knight is talking backwards
    And the red queen’s off with her head
    Remember what the dormouse said
    Feed your head, feed your head – Jefferson Airplane

  69. The funny part for me is that ESPN has a crew of people on payroll to figure stuff like this out. So there is actually a salary to be gained by doing this stuff.

  70. Mrs. Tex told me about this last night. I joked, “Plot twist. He’s Asian.” Which turned out to be true. The Onion Singularity has a strong grip.

  71. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Mr. Anon

    Not all the time, Mr. Anon. In this post about the ridiculous modern last-name first names, I mentioned that I met a Chinese lady who's boy's American first name is Benson. I meant, WTF, man lady?

    How about name him after a man of the cloth, call him Amos Moses?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7GyLr7Cz2g

    Replies: @Anon, @Mr. Anon

    At least two Bensons were very famous men of the cloth– the novelist Robert Hugh and his father Edward White, the Archbishop of Canterbury.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Anon


    At least two Bensons were very famous men of the cloth– the novelist Robert Hugh and his father Edward White, the Archbishop of Canterbury.
     
    OK, something of a convergence there. Did they hunt gator, though? I hear tell you will be able to hunt gators in at least the south of England, once Global Climate Disruption (TM) finally takes effect.

    Maybe they'll have their own Molly Hatchett:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTR13MV4fqc

    "I'm goin' back to the gator country where the wine and the women are free".

    "There's a gator in the bushes - he's callin' my name.
    He says 'Come on boy, better make it back home again.'
    Many roads I've traveled - they all kinda look the same.
    There's a gator in the bushes - he's callin' my name."

    Now, gimme 3 guitars!

    , @Desiderius
    @Anon

    Wasn't there also one who was a trusted advisor of a governor of Georgia or something?

    Maybe I'm misremembering...

  72. The Left is playing a well-known game also played by toddlers, adolescents, teenagers, and sociopaths. The game is called, “Do what I say … or, I’ll pull the pin on the grenade and throw it into the middle of the room … your choice.”

    This is a euphemism for childish tantrums. It gets results until those willing to “parent” the delinquents call their bluff.

    I’m trying my best to place the degree of sensitivity exhibited by the Left on their issues in order to determine their social maturity. The best I can do is to imagine a contest between parents and a three-year-old child who recently graduated from the “terrible twos” to the “terrifying threes”.

  73. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Mr. Anon

    Not all the time, Mr. Anon. In this post about the ridiculous modern last-name first names, I mentioned that I met a Chinese lady who's boy's American first name is Benson. I meant, WTF, man lady?

    How about name him after a man of the cloth, call him Amos Moses?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7GyLr7Cz2g

    Replies: @Anon, @Mr. Anon

    How about name him after a man of the cloth, call him Amos Moses?

    Great song, by the way.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Mr. Anon

    Yeah, some funny lyrics there ... RIP Jerry Reed.

  74. @Anonym
    He should call himself Robert E(SPN) Lee to troll, it might boost the ratings.

    Replies: @anon

    Maybe Robert Lee should do the play-by-play for UNLV?

    • Replies: @EriK
    @anon

    Robert Lee used to do play by for the Siena College basketball team (he was pretty good). His nickname was the General. I kid you not.

  75. I knew twin brothers, who were almost as huge as Andre the Giant, whose first names were Grant and Lee.

  76. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Sessions#Education_and_early_career

    He was born in Selma, Alabama, on December 24, 1946,[1] the son of Jefferson Beauregard Sessions, Jr., and the former Abbie Powe.[2] He was named after his father, who was named after his grandfather, who was named after Jefferson Davis, the president of the Confederate States of America,[3] and P. G. T. Beauregard, the Confederate general who oversaw the bombardment of Fort Sumter, starting the American Civil War.[4]

  77. @anon
    @Anonym

    Maybe Robert Lee should do the play-by-play for UNLV?

    Replies: @EriK

    Robert Lee used to do play by for the Siena College basketball team (he was pretty good). His nickname was the General. I kid you not.

  78. @Tom Scarlett
    Murray Kempton on Do the Right Thing, which was of course "A Spike LEE Joint": "After Sal's Pizzeria had been put to the torch, its assailants turned to face the Korean grocery across the street, and its proprietor cooled their rage with a reminder that he, too, was a man of color. The extreme unlikelihood of this reconciliation made me wonder for a moment whether the producer's last name could permit inferences of an Asian-American origin."

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike_Lee

    Shelton Jackson “Spike” Lee (born March 20, 1957) is an American film director, producer, writer, and actor.

  79. @Steve Sailer
    @TontoBubbaGoldstein

    Thanks.

    Replies: @Amigo

    Those Bud Lite commercials were great. The guy in the commercial, Eddie Jemison did a fantastic job with the whole “Yes I am” phrase and brashness in attending the Asian Lee family reunion. Maybe I’m looking too closely, but Eddie Jemison looks like he is Jewish (for lack of a better description). And it’s not just me, I asked a couple of co-workers what ethnicity they thought Eddie was and they came up with the same answer. Yet on IMDB his ethnic makeup is English/Irish on his dad’s side and Italian/Sicilian from his mom. Do you think he has played up the look to maintain work in Hollywood? He has done steady acting work for most of his life. The list of Jewish actors in Hollywood in IMDB runs for 12 pages (1,109 people), so there’s a lot of control there. http://showtime.imdb.com/list/ls063864172/

  80. Mark Steyn was on Rush today, and he said “But what if his name is pronounced Lobert Lee, is that more racist or less racist?”

  81. @Ganderson
    @Achmed E. Newman

    In Korea, if Mr. Park throws Mr. Kim out the window he lands on Mr. Lee.

    Lee, Park and Kim are like Anderson, Johnson and Olson in the upper Midwest.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I remember hearing, from a Korean friend that 20% of Koreans are Kims. That would even be way above Smith in former America.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Achmed E. Newman


    I remember hearing, from a Korean friend that 20% of Koreans are Kims. That would even be way above Smith in former America.
     
    Those Kims are written in several different ways in Chinese and have different regional origins. In other words, there are several different clans of Kims in Korea (the same goes for Lee). See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_(Korean_surname)
  82. @nebulafox
    @Achmed E. Newman

    He's probably Korean. Northern Virginia has a pretty heavy concentration of Korean-Americans. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Lee/Rhee is the second most common surname in Korea after Kim.

    As for the PI, it is something of an oddball as it is a heavily Hispanized culture in a sea of Confucian influenced (Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam) ones. In some ways, this is good (a lot more relaxed and friendly than the rest of the region), in some ways bad (if you think Mexico is bad with corruption/poverty, don't go close to Manila). I once knew a Chinese teenager who referred to them as "our Mexicans", and he wasn't really off the mark. The Filipino GDP is pretty much dependent on remittances.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Yeah, I’d heard some of that (your 2nd paragraph).

    About your 1st paragraph, I was talking about the Calgon Mr. Lee, haha… I don’t know anything about Robert E Lee of ESPN notoriety. ;-}

  83. @Mr. Anon
    @Achmed E. Newman


    How about name him after a man of the cloth, call him Amos Moses?
     
    Great song, by the way.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Yeah, some funny lyrics there … RIP Jerry Reed.

  84. @Anon
    @Achmed E. Newman

    At least two Bensons were very famous men of the cloth-- the novelist Robert Hugh and his father Edward White, the Archbishop of Canterbury.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Desiderius

    At least two Bensons were very famous men of the cloth– the novelist Robert Hugh and his father Edward White, the Archbishop of Canterbury.

    OK, something of a convergence there. Did they hunt gator, though? I hear tell you will be able to hunt gators in at least the south of England, once Global Climate Disruption (TM) finally takes effect.

    Maybe they’ll have their own Molly Hatchett:

    “I’m goin’ back to the gator country where the wine and the women are free”.

    “There’s a gator in the bushes – he’s callin’ my name.
    He says ‘Come on boy, better make it back home again.’
    Many roads I’ve traveled – they all kinda look the same.
    There’s a gator in the bushes – he’s callin’ my name.”

    Now, gimme 3 guitars!

  85. Anonymous [AKA "Sherlene"] says: • Website

    Very interesting points you have noted, thank yyou for putting up.

  86. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Ganderson

    I remember hearing, from a Korean friend that 20% of Koreans are Kims. That would even be way above Smith in former America.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    I remember hearing, from a Korean friend that 20% of Koreans are Kims. That would even be way above Smith in former America.

    Those Kims are written in several different ways in Chinese and have different regional origins. In other words, there are several different clans of Kims in Korea (the same goes for Lee). See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_(Korean_surname)

  87. @Anon
    @Achmed E. Newman

    At least two Bensons were very famous men of the cloth-- the novelist Robert Hugh and his father Edward White, the Archbishop of Canterbury.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Desiderius

    Wasn’t there also one who was a trusted advisor of a governor of Georgia or something?

    Maybe I’m misremembering…

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