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This may not seem like the most dangerous thing we face, but it's one of the warning signs of fascism and…wait for it…genocide. The cult of antiquity & the imposition of monuments to a nation's mythical glorious past precede both of those disasters. https://t.co/4eyMfqK3FD
— Dr. Glenda Gilmore (@GilmoreGlenda) February 8, 2020
I hadn’t realized that the Wakanda-style National Museum of African-American History and Culture on the National Mall in D.C. was part of “the cult of antiquity & the imposition of monuments to a nation’s mythical glorious past,” until this Yale history professor pointed it out, but of course, she’s right.
By the way, after looking at Thom Maynes’ buildings for a week, I can heartily appreciate this museum designed by David Adjaye, the son of a Ghanian diplomat. It is symmetrical, only mildly cantilevered, and doesn’t have any Random Rectangles or tentacle sucker-like protuberances. It does not give the impression of being created by a collision of shopping carts or of being in imminent danger of collapsing. It looks like three reed baskets nested together, which is not an unpleasant reference.
Of course, Mayne’s style of Pritzker Prize-winning architecture is the whitest stuff imaginable. The winners of Pritzker Prizes are basically Mike Myers’ Dieter from Sprockets. But you are going to be hearing a lot of hooey soon about how Mayne represents America’s vibrant diversity.
A good prank would to hang bedsheets reading “IN”, “OUT”, and “PENDING”. I’m sure it already gives office staff the willies.
Trump forces people to take sides. He’s got the left publicly aligning themselves with ugly buildings. That must be popular with 3% of the population and just one more thing alienating them from the rest.
The left is aligned with ugly everything. Dehumanizing ugliness in art, ugliness in architecture, ugliness in film, ugliness in behavior, ugliness in literature, the list just goes on. Dragging people down into the mud and muck is so common.
Will there be ugliness tomorrow night at the Oscars? I'll have to read it on the web because I'm not watching.Replies: @El Dato, @Reg Cæsar, @SFG
* - rich assholes LARPing
If you want to confuse these supporters of Modern Arhitecture then you can point out the Casa del Fascio in Como Italy by the brilliant fascist architect Giuseppe Terragni is one of the greatest pieces of modern architecture ever constructed and studied by architecture students everywhere when they finally get a day off from having Le Corbusier crammed down their throats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casa_del_Fascio_(Como)
By the way in the last decade there has been something of a rebellion against Le Corbusier by at least French Leftists who are becoming increasingly bold in their assertions of his facsism:
“Le Corbusier, a French Fascism,” by the journalist Xavier de Jarcy;
“Le Corbusier, a Cold Vision of the World,” by the journalist Marc Perelman
“A Corbusier,” by the architect and critic François Chaslin
White women, the eternal enemy of White men. and Western civilization.
But White men and Western civilization are the same. And let’s be honest. Not much eat pray Love in Western civilization. Even less GOOP. Ala Paltrow.
Still waiting for a Wakandan visa. Not sure if they grok the notion of reciprocity. If they don’t respond by 2022, I might start thinking that the place doesn’t exist.
I’m not opposed to the African American museum looking like that. When you look at that structure, and you look at, say, the Jefferson memorial, or the National Gallery of Art, or any of the wypipo monuments–it makes something very clear.
That’s not to say that it isn’t quite ugly, and a blight on the mall.
https://www.si.edu/newsdesk/about/stats
If I'm taking the kids (personally grandkids these days) to DC these days, it would not be on our list.Why are such exhibits not simply part of another Smithsonian museum?
Oh, did the cult of antiquity precede Mao’s cultural revolution and the Khmer Rouge? As I recall, they waged war on antiquity and tradition and destroyed tons of culture.
US-and-Israel-backed ISIS has been destroying tons of antiquity. I guess that’s a good thing as insurance against fascism and genocide.
ISIS and archi-terrorists like Mayne can work hand in hand for a bright future.
Still, people like Tucker go too far. A lot of modernist architecture has been good.
And beauty and pleasantness aren’t the only things that matter in art and design.
It’s like nature has trees and flowers and boulders and bluffs and etc.
The trunks of trees aren’t beautiful but they are the support system of what is beautiful about trees with leaves and all.
I predict your views will evolve on this topic, as the years progress.
I do agree that modern art is so ugly that our conquerors will likely be confused about how best to debase that which is already debased.
Other than in places that are meant only to be traversed easily and quickly, not really. Modern architecture only aims to provide atomized cattle-people with "proper circulation flow" and shocking them through anti-historic innovation, so the otherwise forgettable "functional" structures have some unforgotten cheap layer of shock value on top. As in other aspects of (post)modern art, gold-plated turds.True, some architectural innovations help, such as dorms with balconies with large windows to catch heat; on the other hand, this innovation makes sense in temporary dorms where students usually hide to study. If you apply this to all apartments, this cozy "sunny on all sides" feeling is not only stale, but matched with the sterility of square repetitive floor-plans and interiors, with cheap walls to boot. Which means that occupants are tempted to stay indoors, enjoying a warm sunset from the window with some wine for the IG status, instead of going out to a park to get fresh air; Eventually this leads them to get tired of these sterile spaces when they have families; thus, they get indebted even more for a similarly sterile (but, with a small patch of yard!) McHouse in the suburbs. Ergo, the whole innovation was counterproductive as tenants leave the city anyway; and, as these apartments run their natural decaying course (the cheap materials help for cheap upkeep, but that assumes constant cheap labor... lol), the tenants will get lower quality with time - specially if those large windows can be peeked through and broken into by "diverse peoples"...This problem doesn't have to do exclusively with anti-leftism, mind you. Even the WTC, while bringing back memories when watching on video, doesn't bring the same pride and awe than Notre Dame. Only Ayn Rand and her sick followers (and their postmodern reflections on the left) would disagree.You also clearly haven't climbed a tree or lived in wooden spaces. It just feels more natural. And I say this as someone who lived in apartments (one time next to a relatively nice yet still Brutalist building) and Mcsuburbs otherwise. Not that I advocate living in Bowery-level tenements and/or homesteads and/or medieval castles and villages only, but a nicer balance can be struck.
What was the earliest that Steve wrote on black hair? Cuz it made it to the front page of Huffington Post finally today.
https://www.huffpost.com/feature/black-hair-defined
This is what passes for a historian at Yale. The day of the brick and mortar university may be indeed be fading.
She doesn’t look Black, but she must be because she is the former Acting Chair at a Department of African American Studies. And it’s my understanding Karens don’t get a seat at the table for stuff like that.
I wonder if she has any inkling that one day They’ll come for her, too.
Here is a literal monument to literally mythical glorious past, by Obama’s painter.
(Previously featured on iSteve.)
lol to anon for the hispanic workers comment.
Nein nein, ist kann nicht sein,
Ich schutze ihn allein!
Further warning signs of fascism and . . . wait for it . . . genocide:
an increased enthusiasm for hiking, camping, and campfire sing-alongs
the quasi-deification of nature
a rise in vegetarianism and assorted health cults
the condemnation of tobacco products
an improvement in sartorial standards
and most ominously, the trains beginning to run on time
Dunno about you, but I’m glad that Greek columns are on my side…..
https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Engineers-Astonishing-Wonders-Creators/dp/0345482875
that the development of various Greek column types and related ornamentation reflected the different timbers which had earlier been used before good quality metal stone working tools were generally available.
Sir David Frank Adjaye’s design of the National Museum of African-American History and Culture seems to have been atypical his usual style:
Skolkovo Moscow School of Management
Fortunately, diversity will ensure the last doesn’t occur.
Trump forces people to take sides. He’s got the left publicly aligning themselves with ugly buildings.
The left is aligned with ugly everything. Dehumanizing ugliness in art, ugliness in architecture, ugliness in film, ugliness in behavior, ugliness in literature, the list just goes on. Dragging people down into the mud and muck is so common.
Will there be ugliness tomorrow night at the Oscars? I’ll have to read it on the web because I’m not watching.
The Rockefellers and the road to Modern Art
From MoMA to Washington: How Nelson Rockefeller Redefined the Role of the Art Patron & Politician for the 20th Century
This Republican Loved Taxes & Modern ArtReplies: @ia
If you eyeball the museum, you could say its dull brown color, jagged exterior, and lack of windows is really meant to express a style known as ‘Haute Slave Cabin.’
Ugly buildings are the best defense against genocide. The science is settled.
‘Let’s look at the architecture of our time, look at these new cities we call
large ensembles, with their horizontal boxes as railway wagons out of use
and abandoned in a disused railway yard, with vertical boxes that want to
resemble towers and watchtowers are reminiscent – the image of a
concentration camp immediately comes to spirit.’
—Michel Ragon
Has this matter gone to trial yet?
There were no African Americans involved. They don't go to museums.Replies: @Lurker
https://flic.kr/p/2iqXYPo
https://flic.kr/p/2iqVost
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https://flic.kr/p/2iqVoqE
Skolkovo Moscow School of ManagementReplies: @Dave Pinsen
The first picture looks like something out of Jodorowsky’s Dune.
It does. And the way American society is disintegrating H.R. Giger-inspired edifices are just around the corner.
It was Mussolini, in one of his more reflective moments, who declared that women, if left to fend for themselves in the classical Amazon mode – that is in a world free from men and the phallus – ” Could not even build the meanest hut/shelter for themselves”.
Perhaps, Ms. Gilmore in rejecting the phallic columns of antiquity, secretly desires to recapitulate to a place far far distant from even that place. Perhaps, she secretly idolizes caves, nooks in cliffs and holes in the ground – with their obvious Yoni associations – as the epitome of the built environment.
Or a triple-decker tetanus barge.
https://washington-org.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/pixels.sh_visitors-to-the-lincoln-memorial-at-night_mydccool-via-crowdriff.jpg
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/images/CourtBuilding.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wgQ9d8EZD8U/VyMogFqtwTI/AAAAAAAAC4U/pNTUdjyK5XIq1vJRvEnTmf1J2I-nRXnxwCLcB/s1600/Jefferson%2BMemorial.jpgReplies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Mr. Anon, @Cortes
Doric, Corinthian, Ionic, iconic.
” British architect” David Frank Adjaye . Lol, he’s British like I’m a Kalahari bushman.
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/richmond.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/bb/2bb6966e-1aa4-11ea-8510-f3877e4adf4a/5dee7bac1c881.image.jpg
(Previously featured on iSteve.)Replies: @Anonymous, @kikz, @Mr. Anon, @Autochthon, @Nicholas Stix
A sculpture glorifying a mythical black past installed in 50% black Richmond says a lot about America, but so does a photo showing the contract work that goes into installing said statue being done by three hispanics.
(Sorry my Spanish sucks)
Says a lot about today's negrophile America. Negrophile America makes me dream of southern Argentina.
Has anyone seen George Clooney, Matt Damon, Bill Murray, and John Goodman lately? Did somebody disappear The Monuments Men?
I am guessing Ms. Gilmore’s ancestors didn’t contribute to America’s glorious historical past?
This is one is likely not a hoax, per se. I’m guessing the Hispanic cleaning woman moved that $750,000 noose exhibit to clean some sour creme and chive flavored Dorito chips that had accumulated behind it from the Chinese tourists and didn’t put it back in the same place, not knowing really WTF it is.
There were no African Americans involved. They don’t go to museums.
Is this the first noose ‘found’ or the second? The two happened about a year apart as I recall.
Whichever it is, as far as I’m aware, the museum (were the police ever called in?) has never released any CCTV footage/stills, which make me 100% sure no white man was responsible- or even a Nigerian bodybuilder brother in a balaclava.
Curious to know whether both noose incidents correlated with a fall in/poor attendance numbers.
“The cult of antiquity & the imposition of monuments to a nation’s mythical glorious past precede both of those disasters.”
What cult and monuments precede the disaster of socialism, the gulag, etc.?
“Todos lo que sube tiene que bajar”
(Sorry my Spanish sucks)
You know, it occurs to me that the French Enlightenment and the Italian Renaissance also preceded the holocaust (which is what she’s referring to, so very coy she is).
Therefore they must be cancelled as well, no? Why stop there? Electricity and indoor plumbing. Airplanes. Telecommunications. Yale University.
Is the National Mall an appropriate location for this building and museum?
James Smithson never visited America, and loved but never really understood her. One who does is Bernie:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gM4Xm2MGLNQReplies: @Anonymous
The left is aligned with ugly everything. Dehumanizing ugliness in art, ugliness in architecture, ugliness in film, ugliness in behavior, ugliness in literature, the list just goes on. Dragging people down into the mud and muck is so common.
Will there be ugliness tomorrow night at the Oscars? I'll have to read it on the web because I'm not watching.Replies: @El Dato, @Reg Cæsar, @SFG
But that’s just because ugliness is correlated with lack of skills, effort and a reluctance to learn from past masters because everyone styles himself as the New Disruptive Broom (would that make somebody a “Broomer”?)
In other words, the untutored, undisciplined self-expression the left has promoted and engaged in for the past half-century or so.
Scrolling through this hazy wine aunt’s twitter feed is a good way to remember just how crazy and, ahem, “fascistic” Progressives are. It’s amazing how off the wall a very large percentage of the nation has become.
It is dangerous for black and brown people.
What trump is doing is what Hitler and Mussolini did.
Only white art was acceptable to them. And that kind of thinking leads directly into white supremacy racism that endangers the lives of millions, if not billions, of ppl.
I highly recommend the clueless neofascists attacking Glenda take the time to read Speer’s book. No doubt they will enjoy reading about a historical leader they secretly admire but also learn something about the connection between architecture, art and power.
Does this point of view expressed by Gilmore shed light on Rumsfeld & co’s decision at the start of the invasion to stand by and let Iraq’s Museum of Antiquities be ransacked? Is it optimal for modernity to live only along the surface of the present, that all ties to a distant past be severed?
https://www.salon.com/2003/04/17/antiquities/
Everyone should calm down and contemplate Philip Johnson’s Glass House out here in the woods.
Mr. Johnson was of course homosexual and lived in New Canaan, Connecticut to the age of 98.
He was one of those post war American modernists who helped create what we have to deal with today, but he apparentely was not a brutalist or someone who pushed ugliness. His form of modernism conformed to the original, “Yale Box” form mentioned in Tom Wolfe’s From Bauhaus to Our House. Clean and unfortunately devoid of any connection to locale.
“Mayne’s style of Pritzker Prize-winning architecture is the whitest stuff imaginable.”
This statement reminds me of a two shopping carts of vibrancy colliding together.
But I disagree, below is the whitest stuff imaginable:
http://www.heybrian.com/lib/images/travels/germany/koln_cathedral_day_vert.jpgReplies: @aguynamedme, @Desiderius
How many standard deviations is David Adjaye’s IQ from the Ghanaian mean IQ of 69? I think his existence is statistically impossible therefore he and his buildings don’t exist.
Everyone should calm down and contemplate Philip Johnson’s Glass House out here in the woods.
He lived here.
Mr. Johnson was of course homosexual and lived in New Canaan, Connecticut to the age of 98.
He was one of those postwar American Modernists who helped create what we have to deal with today, but he apparentely was not a Brutalist or someone who pushed ugliness. His form of Modernism conformed to the original, “Yale Box” form mentioned in Tom Wolfe’s From Bauhaus to Our House — clean and unfortunately devoid of any connection to locale.
And he was a Nazi, so he's also the stuff that makes "anti-racists'" heads explode.
Again, the “left*” exploits the empty space created by live-and-let-live/leave-us-alone unwitting libertarians who are afraid/couldn’t be bothered to stand for a damn thing. It doesn’t matter how upopular modernist buildings are if the issue is Trump ‘imposing his morality” on the wonderful diversity that is (sic) modern society. That conceit is far more widespread.
* – rich assholes LARPing
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jfCeF7vos1w/T8Nc_5CoWuI/AAAAAAAAB9Q/QS2q7F4zYPY/s640/glass+house+philip+johnson.jpg
He lived here.
Mr. Johnson was of course homosexual and lived in New Canaan, Connecticut to the age of 98.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WHMTeenovdI/TLQO6pJygRI/AAAAAAAAAFg/RHx3-J1HHMI/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/050126_philip_johnson_vmed_widec.jpg
He was one of those postwar American Modernists who helped create what we have to deal with today, but he apparentely was not a Brutalist or someone who pushed ugliness. His form of Modernism conformed to the original, "Yale Box" form mentioned in Tom Wolfe's From Bauhaus to Our House -- clean and unfortunately devoid of any connection to locale.Replies: @Desiderius, @anonymous, @Bugg, @MBlanc46, @Nicholas Stix
Rootless cosmopolitanism is bad for us all.
What trump is doing is what Hitler and Mussolini did.
Only white art was acceptable to them. And that kind of thinking leads directly into white supremacy racism that endangers the lives of millions, if not billions, of ppl.
I highly recommend the clueless neofascists attacking Glenda take the time to read Speer's book. No doubt they will enjoy reading about a historical leader they secretly admire but also learn something about the connection between architecture, art and power.Replies: @Desiderius, @tyrone
Wait, didn’t Zuck’s sister teach us that Classical Civilization wasn’t white? Pretty sure white people have no culture, isn’t that in the cathechism?
The Left’s War on Beauty continues.
Because communism abhors beauty.
Because everything about communists is ugly.
And because Beauty is Truth.
~ Leo Tolstoy, The Kreutzer Sonata *Around the time Gillibrand was first elected to the House, now over thirteen years ago, I was struck by her visual beauty. In 2010, Harry Reid referred-to Gillibrand, by then a Senator, as "the hottest member" of that body.
Blatant contradiction is a hallmark of communist thought. And, no, they don’t get it, nor are they embarrassed by it if they do.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jfCeF7vos1w/T8Nc_5CoWuI/AAAAAAAAB9Q/QS2q7F4zYPY/s640/glass+house+philip+johnson.jpg
Mr. Johnson was of course homosexual and lived in New Canaan, Connecticut to the age of 98.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WHMTeenovdI/TLQO6pJygRI/AAAAAAAAAFg/RHx3-J1HHMI/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/050126_philip_johnson_vmed_widec.jpg
He was one of those post war American modernists who helped create what we have to deal with today, but he apparentely was not a brutalist or someone who pushed ugliness. His form of modernism conformed to the original, "Yale Box" form mentioned in Tom Wolfe's From Bauhaus to Our House. Clean and unfortunately devoid of any connection to locale.Replies: @JMcG, @HammerJack
I couldn’t tell if you were being ironic. But that house has nothing but connection to the locale. My apologies if you were.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jfCeF7vos1w/T8Nc_5CoWuI/AAAAAAAAB9Q/QS2q7F4zYPY/s640/glass+house+philip+johnson.jpg
He lived here.
Mr. Johnson was of course homosexual and lived in New Canaan, Connecticut to the age of 98.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WHMTeenovdI/TLQO6pJygRI/AAAAAAAAAFg/RHx3-J1HHMI/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/050126_philip_johnson_vmed_widec.jpg
He was one of those postwar American Modernists who helped create what we have to deal with today, but he apparentely was not a Brutalist or someone who pushed ugliness. His form of Modernism conformed to the original, "Yale Box" form mentioned in Tom Wolfe's From Bauhaus to Our House -- clean and unfortunately devoid of any connection to locale.Replies: @Desiderius, @anonymous, @Bugg, @MBlanc46, @Nicholas Stix
That is not a house, it’s a terrarium. My gecko, like Mr. Johnson, liked his a lot. Note the resemblance.
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/richmond.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/bb/2bb6966e-1aa4-11ea-8510-f3877e4adf4a/5dee7bac1c881.image.jpg
(Previously featured on iSteve.)Replies: @Anonymous, @kikz, @Mr. Anon, @Autochthon, @Nicholas Stix
i’m sure offerings of wing-bones will enhance it. according to equestrian statuary… single hoof aloft/wounding……..wonder which mythic battle this references in which hoodie-warrior was ‘wounded’?
lol to anon for the hispanic workers comment.
The building where Professor Gilmore’s office is:
Looks awfully monumental to me.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jfCeF7vos1w/T8Nc_5CoWuI/AAAAAAAAB9Q/QS2q7F4zYPY/s640/glass+house+philip+johnson.jpg
Mr. Johnson was of course homosexual and lived in New Canaan, Connecticut to the age of 98.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WHMTeenovdI/TLQO6pJygRI/AAAAAAAAAFg/RHx3-J1HHMI/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/050126_philip_johnson_vmed_widec.jpg
He was one of those post war American modernists who helped create what we have to deal with today, but he apparentely was not a brutalist or someone who pushed ugliness. His form of modernism conformed to the original, "Yale Box" form mentioned in Tom Wolfe's From Bauhaus to Our House. Clean and unfortunately devoid of any connection to locale.Replies: @JMcG, @HammerJack
Philip Johnson was all over the place, though. He was anything but rigorous, intellectually. Which might be a good thing since a lot of his work is quite fun, and he made a good living at it. He said something to the effect that “I’m a whore, but I’m a high-class whore.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casa_del_Fascio_(Como)
By the way in the last decade there has been something of a rebellion against Le Corbusier by at least French Leftists who are becoming increasingly bold in their assertions of his facsism:
“Le Corbusier, a French Fascism,” by the journalist Xavier de Jarcy;
“Le Corbusier, a Cold Vision of the World,” by the journalist Marc Perelman
“A Corbusier,” by the architect and critic François ChaslinReplies: @Tom-in-VA
It looks like a bookshelf from Ikea.
The left is aligned with ugly everything. Dehumanizing ugliness in art, ugliness in architecture, ugliness in film, ugliness in behavior, ugliness in literature, the list just goes on. Dragging people down into the mud and muck is so common.
Will there be ugliness tomorrow night at the Oscars? I'll have to read it on the web because I'm not watching.Replies: @El Dato, @Reg Cæsar, @SFG
The Rockefellers and the road to Modern Art
From MoMA to Washington: How Nelson Rockefeller Redefined the Role of the Art Patron & Politician for the 20th Century
This Republican Loved Taxes & Modern Art
There were no African Americans involved. They don't go to museums.Replies: @Lurker
They do, but not voluntarily, only when bused in as school kids.
“…ugliness is correlated with lack of skills, effort and a reluctance to learn from past masters because everyone styles himself as the New Disruptive Broom (would that make somebody a “Broomer”?)”
In other words, the untutored, undisciplined self-expression the left has promoted and engaged in for the past half-century or so.
Steve, and in this case the US government, doing their thing – making self-indulgent excuses for blacks behaving badly. Thank you all for applauding a sniggering, middle-finger to good taste. So you’re in good company Steve. No, the building is a dumb, boring eyesore. The ground floor looks like the entrance to a cheap shopping mall and the upper levels are an upside down ziggurat, cuz Africa or something. But then again cheap shopping malls might be the height of mendacity, so all is well in the suburbs of the mind.
The Rockefellers and the road to Modern Art
From MoMA to Washington: How Nelson Rockefeller Redefined the Role of the Art Patron & Politician for the 20th Century
This Republican Loved Taxes & Modern ArtReplies: @ia
It all fits together (if this is true): https://www.counter-currents.com/2019/01/martin-luther-king-establishment-icon/
I’ve been to Gettysburg a lot. Never seen one on the battlefield tour.
That's not to say that it isn't quite ugly, and a blight on the mall.Replies: @Bugg
Ugly, and not as well attended as other museums on the National Mall.Would wager if these numbers were filtered by individuals as opposed to schools, it would be very poorly attended. School visits probably keep the doors open.
https://www.si.edu/newsdesk/about/stats
If I’m taking the kids (personally grandkids these days) to DC these days, it would not be on our list.Why are such exhibits not simply part of another Smithsonian museum?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jfCeF7vos1w/T8Nc_5CoWuI/AAAAAAAAB9Q/QS2q7F4zYPY/s640/glass+house+philip+johnson.jpg
He lived here.
Mr. Johnson was of course homosexual and lived in New Canaan, Connecticut to the age of 98.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WHMTeenovdI/TLQO6pJygRI/AAAAAAAAAFg/RHx3-J1HHMI/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/050126_philip_johnson_vmed_widec.jpg
He was one of those postwar American Modernists who helped create what we have to deal with today, but he apparentely was not a Brutalist or someone who pushed ugliness. His form of Modernism conformed to the original, "Yale Box" form mentioned in Tom Wolfe's From Bauhaus to Our House -- clean and unfortunately devoid of any connection to locale.Replies: @Desiderius, @anonymous, @Bugg, @MBlanc46, @Nicholas Stix
Remember seeing a documentary about him, and a house (perhaps his own) he had designed that simply was ridiculously impractical and leaked rain like crazy. Odd stupid angles, wasted space, no concept that rain water has to be drained off your roof or else. A contractor’s nightmare to build, and worse if you lived there.
If y’all are intrigued by the modernism-vs-anti-modernism architecture debates, let me suggest Googling Andres Duany, James Howard Kunstler, Leon Krier, Christopher Alexander and Nikos Salingaros. They’re all brilliant, well-informed and lots of fun to read or watch.
A key thing about architecture is that it’s the closest the arts come to politics. Who really cares if someone’s written an absurdly trendy new poem or has made a kookily PC new painting? They’re trivial. But a bad new building or development has real effects on many people for many years.
This early-‘80s debate between Christopher Alexander and the Thom Mayne-like Peter Eisenman is a classic:
http://www.katarxis3.com/Alexander_Eisenman_Debate.htm
(Fwiw, I’ve been following this stuff since the 1970s.)
"Once you've seen one Gothic cathedral, you have seen them all."
I'm amazed Eisenman is this self-aware:
It makes me feel high in my mind, not in my gut. Things that make me feel high in my gut are very suspicious, because that is my psychological problem.
Please stop stealing our air.
I wonder if she has any inkling that one day They'll come for her, too.Replies: @Known Fact
A trip through Google Images reveals that Gilmore is consistently whiter-than-white, a fairly attractive Becky in fact, but apparently is woke enough and has had enough serious historian chops to pull off the “black studies” thing. She probably has stirred some passive-aggressive resentment from blacks, I’d wager
Passive-aggressive is a standard Becky attribute. Becky is still simmering about that thing you said three years ago. I would describe blacks as active-aggressive.
The museum looks like three Post Office mail trays loosely stacked up. Was the architect a former postal employee or is this an inside joke about the government source of the Black middle class jobs.
The left is aligned with ugly everything. Dehumanizing ugliness in art, ugliness in architecture, ugliness in film, ugliness in behavior, ugliness in literature, the list just goes on. Dragging people down into the mud and muck is so common.
Will there be ugliness tomorrow night at the Oscars? I'll have to read it on the web because I'm not watching.Replies: @El Dato, @Reg Cæsar, @SFG
There’s a bit in C.S.Lewis’ That Hideous Strength where the bad guy tries to get the hero to appreciate intentionally ugly abstract art. The idea of course being that God made man to appreciate beauty, so the devil is naturally drawn to the bizarre and off-balance.
What bugs me is normal people, while bearing the brunt of these awful Lovecraft-meets-Blade Runner monstrosities (and remember, Lovecraft was a horror writer and Blade Runner a dystopia), have very little influence on architecture because you have to be incredibly rich to finance a building. So Trump associates beautiful architecture with the right, the left decides to get into even weirder and uglier buildings to spite him, and when they get back into power and the wealthy men’s wives make their wishes heard, we all have to live with more ugly buildings.
I’m sorry, but this is hilarious. Only the leaves have any beauty! The gnarled trunks are an aesthetic affront!
I predict your views will evolve on this topic, as the years progress.
Reminds me of when I visited the Getty Villa in Malibu back in the 90’s. Some youngsters from the ‘hood got quite a hoot from an ancient Krater upon which were depicted a couple of nekkid dudes doin’ it Greek-style.
Trump is great at getting people to rip off the mask and reveal the monsterous reality.
Oh, and follow Wrath of Gnon on Twitter. He’s great.
Tweets by wrathofgnon
https://patterns.architexturez.net/doc/az-cf-193567
This reminds me: Is Barack ever going to build his Chicago Flak Tower?
Come to DC, and you’ll see lots of black tourists taking their kids to the museums and monuments.
Commissioning large scale artwork or a building is usually done by committee, and is IMO usually about signaling the intellectualism and taste of the committee to others. The committee members don’t generally have to live or work in the buildings, or see the high-prestige artwork very often.
Marring your opponents monuments is timeless and universal. Ever been to the Parthenon and seen all the noses and dicks hammered off the statuary? It means nothing more than that.
I do agree that modern art is so ugly that our conquerors will likely be confused about how best to debase that which is already debased.
“says a lot about America”
Says a lot about today’s negrophile America. Negrophile America makes me dream of southern Argentina.
“passive-aggressive resentment from blacks”
Passive-aggressive is a standard Becky attribute. Becky is still simmering about that thing you said three years ago. I would describe blacks as active-aggressive.
That odd looking building pictured in the main article reminds me of the vehicle that those jawas used when they captured R2-D2 and C-3PO.
“Jodorowsky’s Dune.”
It does. And the way American society is disintegrating H.R. Giger-inspired edifices are just around the corner.
https://washington-org.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/pixels.sh_visitors-to-the-lincoln-memorial-at-night_mydccool-via-crowdriff.jpg
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/images/CourtBuilding.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wgQ9d8EZD8U/VyMogFqtwTI/AAAAAAAAC4U/pNTUdjyK5XIq1vJRvEnTmf1J2I-nRXnxwCLcB/s1600/Jefferson%2BMemorial.jpgReplies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Mr. Anon, @Cortes
For the tyrant and terrorist Lincoln, it would have been more fitting if the columns had been made of stacked human skulls.
Props for innovative bullshitting, Mr. Anon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drownings_at_Nantes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_the_Vend%C3%A9eReplies: @Mr. Anon, @nebulafox
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/richmond.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/bb/2bb6966e-1aa4-11ea-8510-f3877e4adf4a/5dee7bac1c881.image.jpg
(Previously featured on iSteve.)Replies: @Anonymous, @kikz, @Mr. Anon, @Autochthon, @Nicholas Stix
Perhaps it’s a monument to Damian “Football” Williams, hero of the battle of Florence and Normandy.
Or to Tookie Williams.
This statement reminds me of a two shopping carts of vibrancy colliding together.
But I disagree, below is the whitest stuff imaginable:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Colognecathedralatnight.JPG/1200px-Colognecathedralatnight.JPGReplies: @Lot, @Reg Cæsar, @SFG, @vinny, @MBlanc46
Transcendent to even approach it!
Is it White culture?
It's emblematic of a culture that is available to be embraced by Whites, but the kind of people who say Whites have no culture (principally deracinated/woke whites themselves) have either rejected that culture or are wholly ignorant of it. The builders themselves were often more local than French, not less, so White in that sense is way too general.
They most certainly built for the Glory of God, so those who studiously ignore that Glory or reject it out of hand also lay claim to that which is not theirs. So yeah, if you think that contemporary white culture sucks and are looking for something better, reconnect with your multigenerational roots and confess Jesus Christ and Him crucified as your LORD and Savior.
“…wait for it…genocide.”
Ok, I’ll wait for it.
A key thing about architecture is that it’s the closest the arts come to politics. Who really cares if someone’s written an absurdly trendy new poem or has made a kookily PC new painting? They’re trivial. But a bad new building or development has real effects on many people for many years.
This early-‘80s debate between Christopher Alexander and the Thom Mayne-like Peter Eisenman is a classic:
http://www.katarxis3.com/Alexander_Eisenman_Debate.htm
(Fwiw, I’ve been following this stuff since the 1970s.)Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @aguynamedme
This pat, dismissive comment from Eisenman proves that he is a complete and utterly intellectually bankrupt fraud:
“Once you’ve seen one Gothic cathedral, you have seen them all.”
I’m amazed Eisenman is this self-aware:
It makes me feel high in my mind, not in my gut. Things that make me feel high in my gut are very suspicious, because that is my psychological problem.
Please stop stealing our air.
“…wait for it…genocide.”
The “g” word. How predictable?
Yes. We make far too much of DC, and too little of Philadelphia, which is where the Smithsonian should be. It’s James Smithson’s fault.
James Smithson never visited America, and loved but never really understood her. One who does is Bernie:
This statement reminds me of a two shopping carts of vibrancy colliding together.
But I disagree, below is the whitest stuff imaginable:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Colognecathedralatnight.JPG/1200px-Colognecathedralatnight.JPGReplies: @Lot, @Reg Cæsar, @SFG, @vinny, @MBlanc46
Those little buildings in the foreground look like birds in the nest calling out for mom and dad to “feed me first!”
https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/entertainment/bella-thorne-shares-sexy-instagram-video-i-wish-i-looked-more-latin-so-i-could-feel-more-latin-193417630.html
Some white girls have image issues….
Some Pritzker Prize projects are magnificent and some aren’t. There is a lot of variation in what wins the award from year to year.
My favorite comment on the African-American History Museum is that it looks like something driven by Jawas trying to sell you some droids.
The problem with government buildings is that, unlike most other buildings, the “users” (and funders) of them are people who may never set foot inside them, or even see them up close. The users of such buildings are any citizen of the nation that builds them. Unlike, say, the Facebook campus, these buildings can mean a lot, symbolically, to us all. I was reading about the design of the Borg-like US courthouse that was completed in Salt Lake City a few years ago. The architect seems to be quite (genuinely) accomplished and the federal judge, Tena Campbell, who supervised the design seems to have been genuinely and thoughtfully concerned about everyone who would work inside the building – admins, judges, jurors, and maybe even executioners. But while considering the needs of the few hundred people who would work inside it on any given day she seems to have completely disregarded the message the building’s design would send to the 330 million Americans who live in a country where courthouses look like cruel, inhuman fortresses.
Modern architecture is often ugly but sometimes magnificent. Save the newfangled stuff for private entities that are willing to pay for it.
http://conferencesandevents.yale.edu/sites/default/files/sss.jpg
Looks awfully monumental to me.Replies: @El Dato
Transforms into a Japanese Super Robot when the going gets tough!
now we know why we have can’t have representational art, nice architecture, a history we can be proud of, nice culture, or even meat… because we all might turn into genaciding holocaust fascists ..
Shouldn’t globalists just ‘pre-defend’ themselves and start burning down cathedrals..oh wait… t
http://www.heybrian.com/lib/images/travels/germany/koln_cathedral_day_vert.jpgReplies: @aguynamedme, @Desiderius
that should be burned down as a pre-defense against antisemitism and homophobia
Schiff and Nadler both heckled in public appearances today. Trump talking about FBI Director Wray finally acknowledging that “Russian hackers” always was a lie and the “dossier” was an embarassment to national security professionalism. Trump tweeting in allcaps that he is finally going to move on the enemy. Is it happening yet?
A key thing about architecture is that it’s the closest the arts come to politics. Who really cares if someone’s written an absurdly trendy new poem or has made a kookily PC new painting? They’re trivial. But a bad new building or development has real effects on many people for many years.
This early-‘80s debate between Christopher Alexander and the Thom Mayne-like Peter Eisenman is a classic:
http://www.katarxis3.com/Alexander_Eisenman_Debate.htm
(Fwiw, I’ve been following this stuff since the 1970s.)Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @aguynamedme
Kunslter is great he got in ‘trouble’ from the SPLC for not liking their new poverty palace.
The person in charge of protecting the Nevada Democratic primary from “election interference” and vote security doubts is Pete Buttigieg’s direct subordinate.
https://postimg.cc/0Mdf5cX1
Who will transform Washington D.C. into a white neoplatonic miracle of urbanitecture?
Here is Eugen Robik, Urbatect, on his way to the High Commission to plead for his third bridge – without which the city’s fluvial passage will remain an asymmetric eyesore.
From “The Fever of Urbicande”, 1983
http://sequart.org/magazine/5917/fever-in-urbicande-ayn-rand-totalitarian-architecture-brutalism-and-busselization/
Here is Eugen Robik, Urbatect, on his way to the High Commission to plead for his third bridge - without which the city's fluvial passage will remain an asymmetric eyesore.
https://i.imgur.com/2a7K7Mc.jpg
From "The Fever of Urbicande", 1983Replies: @El Dato
A pretty good comment on (instead of a review of) that particular comic at
http://sequart.org/magazine/5917/fever-in-urbicande-ayn-rand-totalitarian-architecture-brutalism-and-busselization/
This blue-haired Fightin’ Eli is just another lying dog-faced pony soldier… If you consult photos of the New Haven campus before the “High Collegiate Era” (roughly bookended by 1st documented incident of Teddy Roosevelt brandishing a golden egg-shaped trophy while hoisted on Haven Monahan’s great-great-uncle Delta Kappa Episilon brothers, and WWI) there wasn’t any of this phony Oxbridge-theme-park “dreaming spires” physical plant. Nothing much at all for spinning a half-decent boy-wizard fantasy novel from it. In the spirit of Las Vegas, Disneyland, and Restoration Hardware the outbreak of antiquarianism preceded the coordinated retcon:
http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2013/09/how-gothic-architecture-took-over-the-american-college-campus/279287/
A lot?
Other than in places that are meant only to be traversed easily and quickly, not really. Modern architecture only aims to provide atomized cattle-people with “proper circulation flow” and shocking them through anti-historic innovation, so the otherwise forgettable “functional” structures have some unforgotten cheap layer of shock value on top. As in other aspects of (post)modern art, gold-plated turds.
True, some architectural innovations help, such as dorms with balconies with large windows to catch heat; on the other hand, this innovation makes sense in temporary dorms where students usually hide to study. If you apply this to all apartments, this cozy “sunny on all sides” feeling is not only stale, but matched with the sterility of square repetitive floor-plans and interiors, with cheap walls to boot. Which means that occupants are tempted to stay indoors, enjoying a warm sunset from the window with some wine for the IG status, instead of going out to a park to get fresh air; Eventually this leads them to get tired of these sterile spaces when they have families; thus, they get indebted even more for a similarly sterile (but, with a small patch of yard!) McHouse in the suburbs. Ergo, the whole innovation was counterproductive as tenants leave the city anyway; and, as these apartments run their natural decaying course (the cheap materials help for cheap upkeep, but that assumes constant cheap labor… lol), the tenants will get lower quality with time – specially if those large windows can be peeked through and broken into by “diverse peoples”…
This problem doesn’t have to do exclusively with anti-leftism, mind you. Even the WTC, while bringing back memories when watching on video, doesn’t bring the same pride and awe than Notre Dame. Only Ayn Rand and her sick followers (and their postmodern reflections on the left) would disagree.
You also clearly haven’t climbed a tree or lived in wooden spaces. It just feels more natural. And I say this as someone who lived in apartments (one time next to a relatively nice yet still Brutalist building) and Mcsuburbs otherwise. Not that I advocate living in Bowery-level tenements and/or homesteads and/or medieval castles and villages only, but a nicer balance can be struck.
A memorable setting in “Hideous Strength” is the torture room where the angles are noticeably off-kilter—just enough to give the occupant a baseline sense of unease.
There are similar settings in Lovecraft. (Edit: I see you reference him, too, in another comment.)
Which gave new meaning to the words “speedy trial” in a baptism of gunfire. It should be renamed the Siale Agilau Courthouse.
Utah’s fatal courthouse shooting might never have happened if the drapes had arrived earlier
Got popcorn?
Video from controversial 2014 fatal Utah courthouse shooting released, shows man jumping at witness with pen
Tongan Crips. Here to do the jobs American Crips won’t do.
http://libcom.org/files/tonga_riots_510200.jpg
8 dead in their capital city of 24,000. Per capita that’s 20 times worse than the LA riots and they needed troops from New Zealand to put them down.
https://libcom.org/history/tongan-riots-2006
OT (re the ‘glorious future’)
This statement reminds me of a two shopping carts of vibrancy colliding together.
But I disagree, below is the whitest stuff imaginable:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Colognecathedralatnight.JPG/1200px-Colognecathedralatnight.JPGReplies: @Lot, @Reg Cæsar, @SFG, @vinny, @MBlanc46
First of all, yes, it’s gorgeous.
Second, though…since ‘white’ usually means European, which is everything from Ireland to Greece, it’s a wide variety of styles. That doesn’t look an awful lot like the Parthenon, though there is certainly a line of influence you can trace back.
Subconsciously what people usually mean by ‘white’ in this country is the Anglo-Protestant culture that held sway until about 1962. Somewhat lacking in expressiveness, perhaps, but it settled the North American plain, won two world wars, built the interstate highway systems, and put a man on the moon. Most people who grew up under it miss it dearly.
So I’d argue the whitest thing around would be a New England village or Southern plantation.
What trump is doing is what Hitler and Mussolini did.
Only white art was acceptable to them. And that kind of thinking leads directly into white supremacy racism that endangers the lives of millions, if not billions, of ppl.
I highly recommend the clueless neofascists attacking Glenda take the time to read Speer's book. No doubt they will enjoy reading about a historical leader they secretly admire but also learn something about the connection between architecture, art and power.Replies: @Desiderius, @tyrone
You’re a lying dog faced pony soldier!…..thanks Joe!
UK Gov revoking citizenship of dog-faced Bangladeshi woman who joined Isis.
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-51413040
Good work!
And if Bangladesh won’t take her back, there should be a complete travel ban and naturalization ban until it cooperates fully with deportations.
It doesn’t resemble shopping carts being bashed together. It looks more like that transporter thing from Star Wars that the little black fellows are traveling around in on Luke’s home planet.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/f/ff/Sandcrawler.png/revision/latest?cb=20130812001443
Got popcorn?
Video from controversial 2014 fatal Utah courthouse shooting released, shows man jumping at witness with penTongan Crips. Here to do the jobs American Crips won't do.Replies: @Lot
Tongans Crips? They had quite a riot in 2006:
8 dead in their capital city of 24,000. Per capita that’s 20 times worse than the LA riots and they needed troops from New Zealand to put them down.
https://libcom.org/history/tongan-riots-2006
James Smithson never visited America, and loved but never really understood her. One who does is Bernie:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gM4Xm2MGLNQReplies: @Anonymous
Fine then, you can have the National Negro Museum. Bon appetit!
The whole idea of a "National Mall" is so Parisian anyway. If that's what you want, go to Bloomington, Minnesota.
That may well have been the idea.
The National Museum of African-American History and Culture looks very African, and not very American, until, as you point out, you think of an unpainted dark wooden cabin.
https://images.app.goo.gl/dSdL7SoKjkYjgAN26
And the main house:
https://images.app.goo.gl/dGQHne228jv7metg8
Our one consolation is that when they nuked history teching to soften us up for colonization the brain geniuses replaced it with… a comprehenive course in anti-colonialism.
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/richmond.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/bb/2bb6966e-1aa4-11ea-8510-f3877e4adf4a/5dee7bac1c881.image.jpg
(Previously featured on iSteve.)Replies: @Anonymous, @kikz, @Mr. Anon, @Autochthon, @Nicholas Stix
It’s gloriously perfect – nay!, essential – that he has the “duck-face” thing going on all the orange-skinned thots online use in Friendface-Instagrrram-Slutchat-Etc.
It’s an ugly building, but were the structural engineers white/asian, or POC?
The FIU bridge suggests that they were White/Asian, because otherwise the building would probably have fallen down already.
Reminds me of the controversy over Tilted Arc. I worked as an intern for the EPA in 1987 (so sue me). This was a miserable piece of public art, a rusty metal wall:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilted_Arc
I can live with that.
I spent the night in this slave cabin. Not bad:
https://images.app.goo.gl/dSdL7SoKjkYjgAN26
And the main house:
https://images.app.goo.gl/dGQHne228jv7metg8
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-51413040
Good work!
And if Bangladesh won’t take her back, there should be a complete travel ban and naturalization ban until it cooperates fully with deportations.Replies: @Change that Matters, @Dissident
Perhaps she can get a job in a garment factory in Dhaka and make cheap T-shirts for Brits.
i’d wager big bucks the statue was actually constructed physically by whites or asians. The artist likely just did a sketch up of it.
I thought Trump should have made a big deal about finding the perp and bringing him justice just to see the reactions when the narrative fell apart. He could have led into a larger conversation about hate crime hoaxes. Instead he would rather pander and see if he can increase his share of the black vote from 9% to 10%.
This statement reminds me of a two shopping carts of vibrancy colliding together.
But I disagree, below is the whitest stuff imaginable:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Colognecathedralatnight.JPG/1200px-Colognecathedralatnight.JPGReplies: @Lot, @Reg Cæsar, @SFG, @vinny, @MBlanc46
Ay, only “whites” built gothic structure, but the rub is that any, say, 16th century Ethiopian would have instantly understood what that building is for.
Crushed shopping cart architecture is even whiter since, not only are whites the only ones to produce it, they’re the only ones to (pretend to) understand it.
No conspiracy theory there. “Hysterians.”
says the cult of “my political perspective is widely held in academia that it could never be flawed or corrupt so why subject it to meaningless self scrutiny?”
Kunstler was wrong on Y2K and oil. He has successfully scrubbed his historic predictions from the internets.
Aztec Abraham!
Props for innovative bullshitting, Mr. Anon.
If I had to live in a big multi-dwelling-unit building, I wouldn’t mind having a corner apartment in the Longaberger basket building.
Mayne hates his fellow humans.
Way way way off topic, but in SS’s wheelhouse, belt high—–
Former NFL wide receiver Matthew Cherry wins Oscar, 8 years after saying he would
The win is an incredible accomplishment given that the film originated as a Kickstarter organized by Cherry, who spoke of his desire to make a movie about an African-American father’s relationship with his daughter and figuring out how to do her hair. Cherry cited a lack of representation in mainstream animation as a reason for doing the project.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/matthew-cherry-nfl-oscar-animated-short-film-020118907.html
150 years ago that’s how MOST rural people lived. BFD.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jfCeF7vos1w/T8Nc_5CoWuI/AAAAAAAAB9Q/QS2q7F4zYPY/s640/glass+house+philip+johnson.jpg
He lived here.
Mr. Johnson was of course homosexual and lived in New Canaan, Connecticut to the age of 98.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WHMTeenovdI/TLQO6pJygRI/AAAAAAAAAFg/RHx3-J1HHMI/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/050126_philip_johnson_vmed_widec.jpg
He was one of those postwar American Modernists who helped create what we have to deal with today, but he apparentely was not a Brutalist or someone who pushed ugliness. His form of Modernism conformed to the original, "Yale Box" form mentioned in Tom Wolfe's From Bauhaus to Our House -- clean and unfortunately devoid of any connection to locale.Replies: @Desiderius, @anonymous, @Bugg, @MBlanc46, @Nicholas Stix
It was a weekend place. It had a quite solid guest house and library. And, in his later decades, he went over to postmodernism.
I can’t think of a city which deserves it more.
The whole idea of a “National Mall” is so Parisian anyway. If that’s what you want, go to Bloomington, Minnesota.
This statement reminds me of a two shopping carts of vibrancy colliding together.
But I disagree, below is the whitest stuff imaginable:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Colognecathedralatnight.JPG/1200px-Colognecathedralatnight.JPGReplies: @Lot, @Reg Cæsar, @SFG, @vinny, @MBlanc46
Impressive, indeed, but too big and heavy. The French originals, actually built in the Middle Ages, unlike this German knock-off, are much more satisfying.
But FDR on the dime is okay. You crackers…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_mistreatment_of_Soviet_prisoners_of_war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einsatzgruppen
https://postimg.cc/0Mdf5cX1Replies: @Reg Cæsar
She has experience– they’re using the Iowa software in Nevada.
Not a fan of him either.
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/richmond.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/bb/2bb6966e-1aa4-11ea-8510-f3877e4adf4a/5dee7bac1c881.image.jpg
(Previously featured on iSteve.)Replies: @Anonymous, @kikz, @Mr. Anon, @Autochthon, @Nicholas Stix
Is that supposed to be a man or a woman?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jfCeF7vos1w/T8Nc_5CoWuI/AAAAAAAAB9Q/QS2q7F4zYPY/s640/glass+house+philip+johnson.jpg
He lived here.
Mr. Johnson was of course homosexual and lived in New Canaan, Connecticut to the age of 98.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WHMTeenovdI/TLQO6pJygRI/AAAAAAAAAFg/RHx3-J1HHMI/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/050126_philip_johnson_vmed_widec.jpg
He was one of those postwar American Modernists who helped create what we have to deal with today, but he apparentely was not a Brutalist or someone who pushed ugliness. His form of Modernism conformed to the original, "Yale Box" form mentioned in Tom Wolfe's From Bauhaus to Our House -- clean and unfortunately devoid of any connection to locale.Replies: @Desiderius, @anonymous, @Bugg, @MBlanc46, @Nicholas Stix
I guess he didn’t read books.
And he was a Nazi, so he’s also the stuff that makes “anti-racists’” heads explode.
https://washington-org.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/pixels.sh_visitors-to-the-lincoln-memorial-at-night_mydccool-via-crowdriff.jpg
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/images/CourtBuilding.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wgQ9d8EZD8U/VyMogFqtwTI/AAAAAAAAC4U/pNTUdjyK5XIq1vJRvEnTmf1J2I-nRXnxwCLcB/s1600/Jefferson%2BMemorial.jpgReplies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Mr. Anon, @Cortes
The reference in the original article to a nest of reed baskets triggered a memory of the theory set out in Sprague de Camp
that the development of various Greek column types and related ornamentation reflected the different timbers which had earlier been used before good quality metal stone working tools were generally available.
On and off topic:
So while I was trying to track down a photo of one of the ugliest and least friendly buildings I’ve every seen firsthand, the city courthouse in downtown Fresno (it looks like a car’s radiator)…
I came across this little gem. Apparently there was a recent gang-related retaliatory mass shooting by one Asian gang (“The Mongolian Boys”) against another (Vietnamese, I assume) killing four and wounding six, which I don’t recall seeing anything about in the national media.
https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article239971103.html
Which reminds me of this earlier robbery/hostage/takeover/massacre of shoppers by “The Oriental Boys” gang at a Good Guys electronics store in Sacramento in 1991, where I was living at the time. There was dramatic video of how the siege ended.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Sacramento_hostage_crisis
I don’t find that building ugly at all. Rather pleasant, actually.
You make a good point, and I do think the Glass House was a “cool idea.” I was referring more to any connection to history, local architecture, traditions, and details that local people can feel and identify with. The whole joke about the Yale Box was that you could plop it down anywhere and it would be the same.
That glass, rectangular prism has no design connection whatsoever to New Canaan, Connecticut, or to northeastern North America, or to anything else for that matter. It is a geometrical abstraction. Furthermore, it is only habitable by virtue of the engineering and energy required to keep it warm. It is nothing more than a statement and a way to look in and out through the glass.
Not that there is anything wrong with that. That is just what it is.
http://www.heybrian.com/lib/images/travels/germany/koln_cathedral_day_vert.jpgReplies: @aguynamedme, @Desiderius
It points to the Transcendent, but the building is right on down to Earth, in a language that everyone there, and here, can easily understand. That which Inspired the builders was the Union of Heaven and Earth is Christ Jesus our LORD.
Is it White culture?
It’s emblematic of a culture that is available to be embraced by Whites, but the kind of people who say Whites have no culture (principally deracinated/woke whites themselves) have either rejected that culture or are wholly ignorant of it. The builders themselves were often more local than French, not less, so White in that sense is way too general.
They most certainly built for the Glory of God, so those who studiously ignore that Glory or reject it out of hand also lay claim to that which is not theirs. So yeah, if you think that contemporary white culture sucks and are looking for something better, reconnect with your multigenerational roots and confess Jesus Christ and Him crucified as your LORD and Savior.
I’ll be plenty cool when I’m dead. For awhile at least. Glass houses are stupidity in all its ignomious banality for the living.
Way way way off topic, but in SS's wheelhouse, belt high-----
Former NFL wide receiver Matthew Cherry wins Oscar, 8 years after saying he would
The win is an incredible accomplishment given that the film originated as a Kickstarter organized by Cherry, who spoke of his desire to make a movie about an African-American father’s relationship with his daughter and figuring out how to do her hair. Cherry cited a lack of representation in mainstream animation as a reason for doing the project.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/matthew-cherry-nfl-oscar-animated-short-film-020118907.htmlReplies: @Lot
I’m very much of two minds as to the glass box. I can think of a place where I’d love to have one, but down a little path, nested in a hollow of granite and heather, I’d have a little stone house with a slate roof and a fire burning in the hearth.
Never go full goon, good fellow. Lincoln counts as a tyrant-terrorist only if you live in Cloudcuckooland. If you want examples of real tyranny, try these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drownings_at_Nantes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_the_Vend%C3%A9e
Well, when the other fellows are Stalin, Hitler, and the 1937-1945 Japanese Empire……
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_mistreatment_of_Soviet_prisoners_of_war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einsatzgruppen
Moral equivalence is not a monopoly of the left.
Hi-fi speakers used to to look like that.
Fair enough!
The woman is hardened by adversity — your “wry detachment” isn’t going to faze her.
If they were planar speakers like electrostats or magneplanars, they did. They had pluses and minuses. The old Quads were great for apartment dwellers who liked rock music abut had to listen quietly, or for chamber music enthusiasts, for orchestral or film scores or for anything where you wanted dynamic range and some SPL they left much to be desired. Electrostats are great DIY projects by their nature, it’s like building a model airplane with Monokote. They present a capactitively reactive load and if an amplifier is not unconditionally stable it could take a shit on you. The Quad amps worked great with Quad speakers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drownings_at_Nantes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_the_Vend%C3%A9eReplies: @Mr. Anon, @nebulafox
Being a fan-boy of the incompetent, ham-handed killer, Lincoln, I’m not surprised that you put in a good word for him. He might not have denounced anyone who was sent to the guillotine, but he probably ended up killing more people than Robespierre ever did.
French Revolution:War in the Vendée
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drownings_at_Nantes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_the_Vend%C3%A9eReplies: @Mr. Anon, @nebulafox
And that’s small potatoes compared to the Russian Revolution… and by Russian Revolution, that’s includes a lot more than popular imagination thinks. Not to mention what happened before the Russian Revolution. And after it. In the time between the leadup to the assassination of Alexander II by Narodnaya Volya to the fall of Berlin in WWII, the amount of suffering the people of the Russian Empire/USSR went through is truly mind-boggling.
(Smele’s book arguing that the Russian Civil War lasted from 1916-1926, with the little known Islamic uprisings in Central Asia that began against the Tsars and was finally bloodily quashed by the Bolsheviks serving as bookends is a great resource.)
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-51413040
Good work!
And if Bangladesh won’t take her back, there should be a complete travel ban and naturalization ban until it cooperates fully with deportations.Replies: @Change that Matters, @Dissident
Wasn’t including dog-faced only gratuitous and detracting from your point? If the individual-in-question were exactly the same save for being blessed with a visual appealing appearance, would her actions, behavior and revealed character be any less reprehensible or reprobate?
Because communism abhors beauty.
Because everything about communists is ugly.
And because Beauty is Truth.Replies: @Dissident
Oh? Do you associate Kirsten Gillibrand*, for example, with Truth or even truth?
“It is amazing how complete is the delusion that beauty is goodness.”
~ Leo Tolstoy, The Kreutzer Sonata
*Around the time Gillibrand was first elected to the House, now over thirteen years ago, I was struck by her visual beauty. In 2010, Harry Reid referred-to Gillibrand, by then a Senator, as “the hottest member” of that body.
How many people did die as a result of the French Revolution and Napoleon? Let’s see:
French Revolution:
War in the Vendée
Incidentally, I would love to live in your world…..Just imagine, a place where Lincoln actually counts as a bloodstained tyrant…..It sounds very pleasant.Are you within walking distance of Oz?
Just move south of the Virginia state line. It isn’t bad. However it gets muggy in the summer.
>>Wasn’t including dog-faced only gratuitous and detracting from your point? If the individual-in-question were exactly the same save for being blessed with a visual appealing appearance, would her actions, behavior and revealed character be any less reprehensible or reprobate?<<
Paging Joe Biden! Paging Joe Biden!
Hard to say if Dissident was unaware of Biden' recent use of that phrase or not. The comment is rather opaque. The phase is thought to be a mimic of an old Western film or possibly a film about a Canadian Mountie dealing with an Indian uprising. Joe was evidently trying to be funny in aggressively using that odd phrase replying to some skeptical questioner. Or being "tough guy Joe" borrowing movie dialogue. Perhaps channeling his Corn Pop confrontational days of youth?
Or Joe was just confused, as usual. Dissident may be trying to be "Biden ironic" here but again, hard to say. Original remark was all about some ISIS supporter being kicked out of America. .
I first learned of Biden’s “dogface” comment shortly after posting. (At which point I made the connection.)
Yes and my point was not to defend her. (But even in the case of an individual who is decidedly unsympathetic or even utterly odious and loathsome,) I just find snipes at nothing more than an individual’s physical/visual appearance to not only be gratuitous and ugly but also to detract from any of the valid criticisms or arguments that are often being made at the same time.
Granted, of all the instances of such pettiness that unfortunately are not rare here, this one may very well have ranked pretty far down from those that would be most worthy of being singled-out for censure.
(Let me also note that I obviously meant to write visually appealing, not visual appealing as I did.)
Oddly, Biden's recent usage of "dog faced pony soldier" wasn't meant as a comment about the person he was talking to. Just some colorful line from an old film, which few seemed to recall. Not a great reply, but Joe has to deal with hundreds of questions.
If something comes out awkward then so be it. The line refers to an Indian insulting a cavalry soldier. Not sure why that popped into Joe's head right then. It is in the film a PoC insulting a white person (otherwise it would have been "buffalo soldier" as black cavalry were sometimes called).
*Sigh*, so just another cultural appropriation by some white politician trying to sound fashionably anti white I guess. And here I thought it was Robert "Beto" O'Rourke who was the dog-faced one. "That dog-faced Irish fake Hispanic." He's now circling the Memory Hole.Replies: @Dissident
I agree here with Dissident’s point that physical characteristics are dirty pool in argumentation or adult discussion. Or even their name, i.e. Buttigieg. Of course you can change your name but what you were named isn’t some personal choice, normally, nor a flaw if it is something unusual.
Oddly, Biden’s recent usage of “dog faced pony soldier” wasn’t meant as a comment about the person he was talking to. Just some colorful line from an old film, which few seemed to recall. Not a great reply, but Joe has to deal with hundreds of questions.
If something comes out awkward then so be it. The line refers to an Indian insulting a cavalry soldier. Not sure why that popped into Joe’s head right then. It is in the film a PoC insulting a white person (otherwise it would have been “buffalo soldier” as black cavalry were sometimes called).
*Sigh*, so just another cultural appropriation by some white politician trying to sound fashionably anti white I guess. And here I thought it was Robert “Beto” O’Rourke who was the dog-faced one. “That dog-faced Irish fake Hispanic.” He’s now circling the Memory Hole.
Oddly, Biden's recent usage of "dog faced pony soldier" wasn't meant as a comment about the person he was talking to. Just some colorful line from an old film, which few seemed to recall. Not a great reply, but Joe has to deal with hundreds of questions.
If something comes out awkward then so be it. The line refers to an Indian insulting a cavalry soldier. Not sure why that popped into Joe's head right then. It is in the film a PoC insulting a white person (otherwise it would have been "buffalo soldier" as black cavalry were sometimes called).
*Sigh*, so just another cultural appropriation by some white politician trying to sound fashionably anti white I guess. And here I thought it was Robert "Beto" O'Rourke who was the dog-faced one. "That dog-faced Irish fake Hispanic." He's now circling the Memory Hole.Replies: @Dissident
I certainly agree with that much, and I therefore generally object to mocking of names as well. But what of those cases where such mocking is being done as part of an attack on something (i.e., behavior, actions, statements, positions) that is fair game to go after?
Mayor Pete may not be able to help what his sexual proclivities are. And there is at least an argument to be made that even personal sexual behavior (at least in so far as it only involves consenting adults) should remain off-limits when attacking a public figure. Buttigieg’s homosexuality, however, clearly goes well beyond any such private behavior that he may indulge in behind closed doors. For the South Bend Mayor, Gay is an identity that he very publicly, very proudly embraces, flaunts and smugly rubs our noses in. It is a perch from which he condescends to brazenly lecture, scold and preen. It is an ideology and a cause that he explicitly and emphatically endorses and promotes. And the goals and even the tactics of this cause are anything but benign or trivial.
Now, I may not consider vulgar mockery of Buttigieg’s name to be ideal or honorable. Nor even necessarily defensible, per se (or at least worth defending). But, for the reason I have articulated above, I do not object to such mockery as I do to that which I condemned in my previous comments. And I have even indulged in such mockery of Buttigieg’s name myself.
Also, the first openly sodomite serious Presidential candidate just happens to be named Buttigieg and to have been the Mayor of South Bend. What are the odds?