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Time Magazine featured Minnesota on its cover in 1973 to celebrate its Scandinavian-style social democratic leanings.

Life was pretty good in Minnesota in 1973, at least during the four months when it didn’t snow.

Who would have guessed that 47 years later, Minnesota would be an important front in the emerging Ethiopian civil war?

Seriously, which foreign clash will break out into street fighting in the U.S. first?

I can recall around 1980 during the Iranian revolution driving down Wilshire Boulevard in Westwood past the Federal building. On one corner were several thousand supporters of the Ayatollah screaming at several thousand supporters of the Shah. On a third corner, a few hundred Iranians who had the good taste to hate both the Ayatollah and the Shah were gathered. A thin blue line of LAPD mounted on horseback were restraining the outraged mobs.

But, still, Beverly Hills Persians aren’t the scariest people on earth.

It would be nice if ethnic groups that hate each other in the Old Country would at least move to different parts of the country in the U.S. so they wouldn’t get on each others nerves so much. But, my impression is that feuding ethnic groups tend to move to the same neighborhoods in the U.S. so they can shop at the same grocery stores because they like, pretty much, the same types of food.

For example, in the Uptown neighborhood in Chicago 30 years ago, I can recall guessing that the thin brown women in multicolored long dresses were Ethiopian, only to have them inform me that they hate the Ethiopians in Uptown because they are proud Eritreans.

A half century ago, Americans debated whether we could afford to be the world’s policeman in Eurasia.

Today, Americans wonder whether we can afford to be the world’s policeman in the Twin Cities.

 
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  1. Minnesota Is Turning Into a Front in the Ethiopian Civil War

    That sort of thing has been happening in the UK for decades.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/11/kashmir-tensions-spill-over-to-britain-pakistani-indian-communities

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Gordo


    “I keep calling and calling in the hope that the lockdown will be lifted so that I can speak to my family and friends and also visit soon. My beautiful Kashmir has been plunged into the darkness and I pray that it will soon return to the light.”
     
    The only thing that comes to mind is a side-quest in some video game after you select "Talk to Nasti".

    New Quest: Worry about Kashmir. (Rewards: +50 Woke Points)

    Replies: @NOTA, @tyrone

    , @Hans
    @Gordo

    True, but it's a nice topic to busy the media and distract from the decades old non-story of Pakistani gangs "grooming" young English girls for sex slavery.

    https://www.unz.com/article/pizzagate/

  2. Nothing will ever beat practically all the Turkish and Kurdish in Japan coming out to riot with each other.

    Most of them were ‘Asylum seekers’ at least some of whom actually got it. I suppose the ‘grants very few ethnic-based asylum claims’ and ‘grants no ethnic-based asylum claims’ are two different categories and Japan made the pragmatic choice.

    • Replies: @Gabe Ruth
    @Altai

    I remember that video of the Turkish goons in suits beating down some retired teacher looking protesters, I think it was by the Turkish embassy. This was around the time of the failed coup against Erdogan by the guy in central PA. Looked like the Matrix scene where the agent keeps replicating himself and ganging up on Keanu.

  3. wren says:

    I really don’t understand much about the Ethiopian civil war. I am assuming it involves Somalians since it is happening in Minnesota. Not too many Sudanese, which is near Ethiopia, because that would be going down in Omaha Nebraska. Are there Ethiopians there? Maybe some came back with Marlin Perkins?

    I am confused. It feels like we have entered the great confusening.

    I can’t keep up. What does one even wear anymore?

    Are we worried about the Chinese virus or our African heritage?

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @wren

    First, the awokening, then the confusening. We need the Great Caffeinating!

  4. So much for “If we don’t fight them there, we’ll fight them here”.

  5. In short, the West is lost.

  6. I miss this America: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young-Oak_Kim#World_War_II

    Upon graduating in January 1943, he was assigned to the U.S. 100th Infantry Battalion, a unit of Japanese Americans from Hawaii. The battalion commander offered him a transfer, fearing ethnic conflict between Young Oak and the Japanese-American troops. (At the time, Korea was occupied by the Japanese empire.) Regardless, he insisted on staying, stating that “there [are] no Japanese nor Korean here. We’re all Americans and we’re fighting for the same cause.”[12]

    • Agree: wren, ic1000
    • Replies: @Saxon
    @Twinkie

    You can only afford that mindset when you have an overwhelmingly homogeneous country, which you did in 1943. You don't now, and no amount of wishful thinking will change things back to being like that.

  7. No, you and Jack in southern Cali. don’t get it, Steve. Listen, we’re fighting them over there so they don’t come to fight us over here, and due to fighting over there, we must let them come over here, but not to fight us over here, to fight each other over here, which will keep us safe because DEMOCRACY, DAMMIT!

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @personfellowindividual
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Whew! I'm glad that's settled.

  8. Couple of Freudina slips in text, Steve:

    hate both the Ayatollah and the Shaw

    so they can shot at the same grocery stores

    But then:

    Today, Americans wonder whether we can afford to be the world’s policeman in the Twin Cities.

    The future will be much like the Country of Ghaddafi, who, as I understand, juggled several competing tribes while staying Top Dog and keeping black guest workers in relative safety as he appeared on Western TV alternatively as Cartoon Baddie (Lockerbie) or Cartoon Goody (The Third Way, Gives up Chemweapons), depending on what the prevailing political wind was. He also kickstarted the Toyota Wars

    Once “The Administration” and “The Press” had decided that a color revolution would now be on the table, all of that had to go of course. Subsequent pinpoint-precise bombardement by NATO to fend off the impending viagra-fueled genocide increased local amounts of liberty 10-20 fold according to experts.

    Now competing tribes are competing, black guest workers are in cages (no-one gives a damn) or trying to cross the Med (everyone pretends that isn’t happening) as Turkey is looking for “interests” and “Russian operations” in Lybia (wut?) is used to hype continued existence of braindead NATO.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @El Dato

    You are right about Steve's great line there, El Dato. I didn't catch the "world's" part- need to slow down.

    BTW, you spelled Kuhdophee's name wrong. Freakin' spell-check, I know!

  9. @Gordo

    Minnesota Is Turning Into a Front in the Ethiopian Civil War
     
    That sort of thing has been happening in the UK for decades.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/11/kashmir-tensions-spill-over-to-britain-pakistani-indian-communities

    Replies: @El Dato, @Hans

    “I keep calling and calling in the hope that the lockdown will be lifted so that I can speak to my family and friends and also visit soon. My beautiful Kashmir has been plunged into the darkness and I pray that it will soon return to the light.”

    The only thing that comes to mind is a side-quest in some video game after you select “Talk to Nasti”.

    New Quest: Worry about Kashmir. (Rewards: +50 Woke Points)

    • Replies: @NOTA
    @El Dato

    How about worrying about Kashmir because its a potential flashpoint for a nuclear war between Pakistan and India?

    , @tyrone
    @El Dato

    Screw Kashmir ,root,root ,root for INDIA!!! that's who can make all the cheap crap we dearly desire after this China thing blows over. Have we forgotten Howdy Modi so soon?

  10. Life was pretty good in Minnesota in 1973, at least during the four months when it didn’t snow.

    Ah, you forget the spring that the weak call winter. (“Den vår de svage kalla vinter.”)

    • Replies: @ganderson
    @Pericles

    Just det!

    Wendy Anderson, pictured above with that northern that I don't believe he caught, made one of the greatest political mistakes in MN history. When Walter Mondale became VP in '77, tthe governor was charged with appointing his successor. Well, after a statewide search Wendy decided the best man for the job was...wait for it.. Wendell Anderson. The voters never forgave him- pride was a big no-no back in those days!
    A couple years later, after Anderson had left the Senate, I was at a U of MN hockey game in the old rink. Between periods I was walking down the concourse, and looking to my left noticed none other than Wendy himself. Wendy had been a good hockey player, had played at the 'U' in the 50's and I believe was on the '56 Olympic team. Just then a voice boomed from the rafters "Hey Wendy, you're lucky we let you back into the state after the shit you pulled!" I looked at him and snarked, "Tough day, eh Governor?" He smiled and said "Kid, you have no idea..."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  11. @Pericles


    Life was pretty good in Minnesota in 1973, at least during the four months when it didn’t snow.

     

    Ah, you forget the spring that the weak call winter. ("Den vår de svage kalla vinter.")

    Replies: @ganderson

    Just det!

    Wendy Anderson, pictured above with that northern that I don’t believe he caught, made one of the greatest political mistakes in MN history. When Walter Mondale became VP in ’77, tthe governor was charged with appointing his successor. Well, after a statewide search Wendy decided the best man for the job was…wait for it.. Wendell Anderson. The voters never forgave him- pride was a big no-no back in those days!
    A couple years later, after Anderson had left the Senate, I was at a U of MN hockey game in the old rink. Between periods I was walking down the concourse, and looking to my left noticed none other than Wendy himself. Wendy had been a good hockey player, had played at the ‘U’ in the 50’s and I believe was on the ’56 Olympic team. Just then a voice boomed from the rafters “Hey Wendy, you’re lucky we let you back into the state after the shit you pulled!” I looked at him and snarked, “Tough day, eh Governor?” He smiled and said “Kid, you have no idea…”

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @ganderson

    Haha! Cool story, Bro. (No sarcasm)

  12. Having a main drag called Cretin Avenue might be a clue to the attraction of St Paul.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Cortes


    Having a main drag called Cretin Avenue might be a clue to the attraction of St Paul.
     
    The exit sign on I-94:


    https://live.staticflickr.com/3081/2815226415_14b4261d83_b.jpg

    Cretin is actually a pretty nice middle-class street, with a small country club and a Catholic (mostly) men's college. Vandalia is its extension through a light-industrial zone.

    I wonder if the name Cretin (which derives from the French for "Christian", and is a euphemism for "moron") is a sly way of dissuading the riff-raff. Nearby Mound and Mounds View are similar, New Jersey has Brick, and New York, Fly Creek in the shadow of Cooperstown.

    The last may be dissuading the wealthy rather than the poor. Rich migrants are destructive in a different way.

  13. Semi O/T, the guy who plowed into Mostly Peaceful Protesters in Seattle, who happened to be on a freeway (why?) is not a white supremacist. He is an Eritrean named Dawit Kelete.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jane Plain

    He most have thought those two pedestrians were Ethiopians, then. It's hard to see skin color and nose shape through that many tattoos and shit hanging off people's faces these days ... especially at 80 mph. I'd never seen so much of that as I did in Seattle, come to think of it.

    , @Altai
    @Jane Plain

    Also of note. He was driving a Jag.

    , @MEH 0910
    @Jane Plain

    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1279804003577212928

  14. On some level, you have to admire the passion and dedication to their ethnic groups. But you have to wish they’d show it in their own homelands, if for no other reason than that people naturally tend to be more solicitous of their own backyard and of their real neighbors.

    This does raise awkward questions for Conservativism Inc. Their entire support for immigration is that of COURSE the newcomers will become “American” – the definition of which coincidentally coincides with white upper middle class norms. If these people naturally have no interest in becoming white (I have no interest in becoming another race either) then, numbers aside why would it work?

    None of these people seem to understand that fiscal conservatism only works in a population that has little need of govt spending.

  15. @Gordo

    Minnesota Is Turning Into a Front in the Ethiopian Civil War
     
    That sort of thing has been happening in the UK for decades.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/11/kashmir-tensions-spill-over-to-britain-pakistani-indian-communities

    Replies: @El Dato, @Hans

    True, but it’s a nice topic to busy the media and distract from the decades old non-story of Pakistani gangs “grooming” young English girls for sex slavery.

    https://www.unz.com/article/pizzagate/

  16. Anonymous[254] • Disclaimer says:

    Seriously, which foreign clash will break out into street fighting in the U.S. first?

    First? Have you forgotten about 9/11?

    American citizens have been contending for decades with blowback from the Jews’ ongoing theft of Palestine.

    • Replies: @Hans
    @Anonymous

    Blowback? The Kurzberg brothers didn't have any when holding their cigarette lighter aloft and posing for pictures while The Twin Towers burned.

    "The five aroused attention in New Jersey after people noticed them going to unusual lengths to photograph the World Trade Center ruins and making light of the situation. One photograph developed by the F.B.I. showed Sivan Kurzberg holding a lighted lighter in the foreground, with the smoldering wreckage in the background, said Steven Noah Gordon, a lawyer for the five."

    Thankfully, we are protected from knowing what the other photos showed.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/21/us/nation-challenged-detainees-dozens-israeli-jews-are-being-kept-federal-detention.html

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Neuday
    @Anonymous


    Seriously, which foreign clash will break out into street fighting in the U.S. first?

    First? Have you forgotten about 9/11?

    American citizens have been contending for decades with blowback from the Jews’ ongoing theft of Palestine.
     
    First? Have you forgotten about Nortenos vs Surenos?

    American citizens have been contending for decades with blowback from the Democrats ongoing gift of California.
    , @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    Is the fight between the Ethiopians and the Oromos also the Jews' fault? Joos - is there ANYTHING (bad) that is NOT their fault?

    Replies: @Anonymous

  17. Re: Bringing ethnic conflicts back to America. Back when I lived in Silly-nois we were harboring a fugitive from Rwanda’s “unpleasantness” out in the leafy green suburbs:

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2005-06-26-0506260449-story.html

    This one was at least hiding out. How many are here looking to settle old scores?

  18. Stop being a queen Mr. Sailer, this is not in fact happening.

    I’m aware you’re half-joking but still..

  19. Life was pretty good in Minnesota in 1973, at least during the four months when it didn’t snow.

    I’ve seen snow there in May and September. So, June, July, and August, only? My bet is there have been flurries up in Bemidji in late August, too, but I never saw those.

  20. Ethiopians are having a civil war? I thought they were building a dam on the Nile, and possibly having a war with Egypt over it. Now they are fighting in Minnesota? Its almost like a soap opera, and nary a white man to be seen in it.

  21. Poster Boys for an immediate immigration shutdown and deportations. If only POTUS could understand that when Rush Limbaugh said: ‘When you import people from Third world countries, you’re going to get Third world people.’

  22. Send them all back.

  23. Hans says:
    @Anonymous

    Seriously, which foreign clash will break out into street fighting in the U.S. first?
     
    First? Have you forgotten about 9/11?

    American citizens have been contending for decades with blowback from the Jews’ ongoing theft of Palestine.

    Replies: @Hans, @Neuday, @Jack D

    Blowback? The Kurzberg brothers didn’t have any when holding their cigarette lighter aloft and posing for pictures while The Twin Towers burned.

    “The five aroused attention in New Jersey after people noticed them going to unusual lengths to photograph the World Trade Center ruins and making light of the situation. One photograph developed by the F.B.I. showed Sivan Kurzberg holding a lighted lighter in the foreground, with the smoldering wreckage in the background, said Steven Noah Gordon, a lawyer for the five.”

    Thankfully, we are protected from knowing what the other photos showed.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/21/us/nation-challenged-detainees-dozens-israeli-jews-are-being-kept-federal-detention.html

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Hans


    Blowback? The Kurzberg brothers didn’t have any when holding their cigarette lighter aloft and posing for pictures while The Twin Towers burned.
     
    It doesn’t surprise that Zionists would see fit to celebrate conflict between Arabs and Americans, or between Muslims and Christians. They thrive on it.
  24. @Anonymous

    Seriously, which foreign clash will break out into street fighting in the U.S. first?
     
    First? Have you forgotten about 9/11?

    American citizens have been contending for decades with blowback from the Jews’ ongoing theft of Palestine.

    Replies: @Hans, @Neuday, @Jack D

    Seriously, which foreign clash will break out into street fighting in the U.S. first?

    First? Have you forgotten about 9/11?

    American citizens have been contending for decades with blowback from the Jews’ ongoing theft of Palestine.

    First? Have you forgotten about Nortenos vs Surenos?

    American citizens have been contending for decades with blowback from the Democrats ongoing gift of California.

  25. War is an important form of expression (if rioting is speech, then warfare certainly is), and it is an important part of any human culture. I was getting bored with the Left constantly trying to get the US Civil war going again. Now, we’ve imported enough of a foreign culture to transplant an intertribal war.

    Celebrate multicultural diversity!

  26. The Native tribes in North America hated each other and warred constantly, killing, rapimg, torturing and kidnapping. Maybe we should give these warring factions reservations and a casino license, seems to work.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Buffalo Joe


    The Native tribes in North America hated each other and warred constantly, killing, rapimg, torturing and kidnapping. Maybe we should give these warring factions reservations and a casino license, seems to work.
     
    Yes, but that only worked because 99% of them were decimated by Eurasian diseases.
  27. @El Dato
    Couple of Freudina slips in text, Steve:

    hate both the Ayatollah and the Shaw
     

    so they can shot at the same grocery stores
     
    But then:

    Today, Americans wonder whether we can afford to be the world’s policeman in the Twin Cities.
     
    The future will be much like the Country of Ghaddafi, who, as I understand, juggled several competing tribes while staying Top Dog and keeping black guest workers in relative safety as he appeared on Western TV alternatively as Cartoon Baddie (Lockerbie) or Cartoon Goody (The Third Way, Gives up Chemweapons), depending on what the prevailing political wind was. He also kickstarted the Toyota Wars

    Once "The Administration" and "The Press" had decided that a color revolution would now be on the table, all of that had to go of course. Subsequent pinpoint-precise bombardement by NATO to fend off the impending viagra-fueled genocide increased local amounts of liberty 10-20 fold according to experts.

    Now competing tribes are competing, black guest workers are in cages (no-one gives a damn) or trying to cross the Med (everyone pretends that isn't happening) as Turkey is looking for "interests" and "Russian operations" in Lybia (wut?) is used to hype continued existence of braindead NATO.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    You are right about Steve’s great line there, El Dato. I didn’t catch the “world’s” part- need to slow down.

    BTW, you spelled Kuhdophee’s name wrong. Freakin’ spell-check, I know!

  28. @Jane Plain
    Semi O/T, the guy who plowed into Mostly Peaceful Protesters in Seattle, who happened to be on a freeway (why?) is not a white supremacist. He is an Eritrean named Dawit Kelete.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Altai, @MEH 0910

    He most have thought those two pedestrians were Ethiopians, then. It’s hard to see skin color and nose shape through that many tattoos and shit hanging off people’s faces these days … especially at 80 mph. I’d never seen so much of that as I did in Seattle, come to think of it.

  29. @ganderson
    @Pericles

    Just det!

    Wendy Anderson, pictured above with that northern that I don't believe he caught, made one of the greatest political mistakes in MN history. When Walter Mondale became VP in '77, tthe governor was charged with appointing his successor. Well, after a statewide search Wendy decided the best man for the job was...wait for it.. Wendell Anderson. The voters never forgave him- pride was a big no-no back in those days!
    A couple years later, after Anderson had left the Senate, I was at a U of MN hockey game in the old rink. Between periods I was walking down the concourse, and looking to my left noticed none other than Wendy himself. Wendy had been a good hockey player, had played at the 'U' in the 50's and I believe was on the '56 Olympic team. Just then a voice boomed from the rafters "Hey Wendy, you're lucky we let you back into the state after the shit you pulled!" I looked at him and snarked, "Tough day, eh Governor?" He smiled and said "Kid, you have no idea..."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Haha! Cool story, Bro. (No sarcasm)

  30. @Jane Plain
    Semi O/T, the guy who plowed into Mostly Peaceful Protesters in Seattle, who happened to be on a freeway (why?) is not a white supremacist. He is an Eritrean named Dawit Kelete.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Altai, @MEH 0910

    Also of note. He was driving a Jag.

  31. It would be nice if ethnic groups that hate each other in the Old Country would at least move to different parts of the country in the U.S. so they wouldn’t get on each others nerves so much. But, my impression is that feuding ethnic groups tend to move to the same neighborhoods in the U.S. so they can shop at the same grocery stores because they like, pretty much, the same types of food.

    Actually, not to worry, there are not too many Amharas in Minnesota. Minnesota is an Oromo stronghold because that’s where Oromo refugees were settled. The Amhara stronghold is Washington DC.

    The good folks in Minnesota are being inconvenienced because of a conflict that is thousands of years old over the control of the Nile waters. Remember in the Bible when Pharaoh sent an army led by Moses to Nubia because Black people (Nubians) threatened to cut off the Nile’s water supply?

    Jawar Mohammed, an Oromo living in Minnesota single-handedly founded the Oromo Media Network with money provided by EGYPT. Egypt is a a key player in all this because they are trying to destabilize Ethiopia. Egypt is panicking because they are loosing control of the Nile- their ONLY source of water. Most of the Nile water originates in the Amhara highlands and Ethiopia is building a HUGE dam. No Nile, no Egypt.

    Anyway, using OMN satellite TV beaming from Egypt, Jawar instigated and led an Oromo youth movement (know as the Queero) to overthrow the Ethiopian government dominated by the Tigray. He also used Facebook to reach his million followers.

    The Tigray, like the Amharas are Abyssinians (northern Ethiopians). But Queero had the tactical support to the Amharas because the latter had become embitterd by their fellow Abyssinian Tigray cousins. The Tigray had refused to share power with the Amhara. In fact, the Tigray worked to undermine Amharas.

    The Tigray’s, who are only 6% of the population, had managed to stay in power from 1992 to recently using divide and rule by taking advantage of the animosity between Oromos (34%) and Amharas (27%). In fact they encouraged this Oromo hostility with constant propoganda of how Amhara kings had colonized them (true) and humiliated them culturally (true). However, their strategy blew up their face when the unthinkable happened. Amharas and Oromos formed an alliance and overthrow the Tigray govt.

    A new prime minister , Abiye Ahmed came to power and he promised a new dawn of Oromo-Amhara reconciliation, a new Ethiopia. Abiye was perfect for the job. His mother is an Amhara Orthodox Christian, his father an Oromo Muslim, and he himself a convert, a Protestant. He preached of love, unity, forgiveness and most of all unity. He released thousands of Oromo and Amhara political prisoners. He made peace with Eritrea, and before you know it Ethiopians and Eritreans in Chicago embraced each other as long lost brother.

    Love was in the air.

    Amhara and Oromo leaders in exile went back home, including Jawar. OMN opened an office in Addis Ababa. Abiye won the Nobel Peace Prize.

    Alas, the honeymoon between Amharas and Oromos did not last. Soon Oromo activists started attacking Amharas about past grievances, and demanded that the statues of the Amhara king that had conquered them come down. The Amharas refused and instead demanded that the Oromo destroy their graphic statue of a hand holding a cut-off breast. This statue commemorates a mass mutilation incident when Amhara conquistadors allegedly cutoff the breasts of conquered Oromo women. Amharas deny any breast cutting happened and reminded Oromo activists of the nasty Cushitic tradition of their warriors who used to cut off the penises of POWs.

    A few days ago, someone murdered an important Oromo protest singer (Haccallu) and all hell broke loose in Ethiopia and Minnesota. Jawar started making trouble again and and Abiye had no choice to arrest him and shut down OMN in Addis Ababa. Oromos shut down I-94 in St. Paul and toppled Haile Sellassie’s (an Amhara king) statue in England.

    Egypt probably had Haccallu assassinated.

    • Replies: @Herzog
    @Merema

    Merema,

    you're obviously an Ethiopian or Eritrean, or of such descent, with the knowledge of details that comes with that. Thanks for the clear exposition.

    A few small questions, if I may, coming from someone who had some exposure to Ethiopia but has no in-depth insight.

    First, what role does religion play in this? Obviously, Jawar Mohammed is a Muslim, whereas Haccaallu was Orthodox. Does the present Oromo activism and violence transcend their internal Christian-Muslim divide, or is it the Muslim Oromos who are in creasingly in charge? Dire Dawa and Harer as hotspots during the recent events might point to Islam being an important component and catalyst just an inch beneath the surface. Them again, Ambo is a thoroughly Christian place, as far as I am aware. Can you help me out?

    Second, what is prime minister Abiy's personal religiosity, apart from the purely denominational aspect, but rather with regard to his personality and character? What, if anything, does it mean to him?

    Finally, receiving a Nobel Peace Prize ever more seems like the opening chapter to a downward political trajectory from there onward.

    Many thanks.

  32. @wren
    I really don't understand much about the Ethiopian civil war. I am assuming it involves Somalians since it is happening in Minnesota. Not too many Sudanese, which is near Ethiopia, because that would be going down in Omaha Nebraska. Are there Ethiopians there? Maybe some came back with Marlin Perkins?

    I am confused. It feels like we have entered the great confusening.

    I can't keep up. What does one even wear anymore?

    Are we worried about the Chinese virus or our African heritage?

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_1903.jpg

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    First, the awokening, then the confusening. We need the Great Caffeinating!

  33. But think of the delicious Ethiopian cuisine!

  34. @El Dato
    @Gordo


    “I keep calling and calling in the hope that the lockdown will be lifted so that I can speak to my family and friends and also visit soon. My beautiful Kashmir has been plunged into the darkness and I pray that it will soon return to the light.”
     
    The only thing that comes to mind is a side-quest in some video game after you select "Talk to Nasti".

    New Quest: Worry about Kashmir. (Rewards: +50 Woke Points)

    Replies: @NOTA, @tyrone

    How about worrying about Kashmir because its a potential flashpoint for a nuclear war between Pakistan and India?

  35. @Cortes
    Having a main drag called Cretin Avenue might be a clue to the attraction of St Paul.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Having a main drag called Cretin Avenue might be a clue to the attraction of St Paul.

    The exit sign on I-94:

    Cretin is actually a pretty nice middle-class street, with a small country club and a Catholic (mostly) men’s college. Vandalia is its extension through a light-industrial zone.

    I wonder if the name Cretin (which derives from the French for “Christian”, and is a euphemism for “moron”) is a sly way of dissuading the riff-raff. Nearby Mound and Mounds View are similar, New Jersey has Brick, and New York, Fly Creek in the shadow of Cooperstown.

    The last may be dissuading the wealthy rather than the poor. Rich migrants are destructive in a different way.

  36. I remember once driving down 19th avenue in San Francisco headed out of the City. There was a huge Palestinian demo on the SF State campus – lots of riled up people shouting through bull-horns and the like. Maybe there were some counter-protestors on the Israeli side too. Couldn’t tell. Anyway, I remember thinking to myself: don’t they have their own country (or at least occupied land) somewhere to do this? Why does my country have to be the thunderdome for the entire World’s sectarian squabbles. Of course, then I wouldn’t really consider San Francisco to be part of my country either.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Mr. Anon


    Anyway, I remember thinking to myself: don’t they have their own country (or at least occupied land) somewhere to do this? Why does my country have to be the thunderdome for the entire World’s sectarian squabbles.
     
    Because the United States is providing military and diplomatic backing to the Zionist entity and is killing Arabs to further the Zionist entity’s interests.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  37. We’re fighting them over there so we don’t have to…umm…you know the thing.

    We’re fighting them over there because the weather is nicer. You don’t want to have to fight in Minnesota.

  38. @El Dato
    @Gordo


    “I keep calling and calling in the hope that the lockdown will be lifted so that I can speak to my family and friends and also visit soon. My beautiful Kashmir has been plunged into the darkness and I pray that it will soon return to the light.”
     
    The only thing that comes to mind is a side-quest in some video game after you select "Talk to Nasti".

    New Quest: Worry about Kashmir. (Rewards: +50 Woke Points)

    Replies: @NOTA, @tyrone

    Screw Kashmir ,root,root ,root for INDIA!!! that’s who can make all the cheap crap we dearly desire after this China thing blows over. Have we forgotten Howdy Modi so soon?

  39. @Twinkie
    I miss this America: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young-Oak_Kim#World_War_II

    Upon graduating in January 1943, he was assigned to the U.S. 100th Infantry Battalion, a unit of Japanese Americans from Hawaii. The battalion commander offered him a transfer, fearing ethnic conflict between Young Oak and the Japanese-American troops. (At the time, Korea was occupied by the Japanese empire.) Regardless, he insisted on staying, stating that "there [are] no Japanese nor Korean here. We're all Americans and we're fighting for the same cause."[12]
     

    Replies: @Saxon

    You can only afford that mindset when you have an overwhelmingly homogeneous country, which you did in 1943. You don’t now, and no amount of wishful thinking will change things back to being like that.

  40. @Anonymous

    Seriously, which foreign clash will break out into street fighting in the U.S. first?
     
    First? Have you forgotten about 9/11?

    American citizens have been contending for decades with blowback from the Jews’ ongoing theft of Palestine.

    Replies: @Hans, @Neuday, @Jack D

    Is the fight between the Ethiopians and the Oromos also the Jews’ fault? Joos – is there ANYTHING (bad) that is NOT their fault?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jack D


    Is the fight between the Ethiopians and the Oromos also the Jews’ fault? Joos – is there ANYTHING (bad) that is NOT their fault?
     
    Nice straw man, bud.

    Ethiopia’s US-backed aggression against Somalia is an indirect consequence of Zionism. Broadly speaking, the US “war on terror” throughout the Middle East and across the Muslim world is a de facto effort to suppress resistance to Zionism.
  41. Anonymous[239] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon
    I remember once driving down 19th avenue in San Francisco headed out of the City. There was a huge Palestinian demo on the SF State campus - lots of riled up people shouting through bull-horns and the like. Maybe there were some counter-protestors on the Israeli side too. Couldn't tell. Anyway, I remember thinking to myself: don't they have their own country (or at least occupied land) somewhere to do this? Why does my country have to be the thunderdome for the entire World's sectarian squabbles. Of course, then I wouldn't really consider San Francisco to be part of my country either.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Anyway, I remember thinking to myself: don’t they have their own country (or at least occupied land) somewhere to do this? Why does my country have to be the thunderdome for the entire World’s sectarian squabbles.

    Because the United States is providing military and diplomatic backing to the Zionist entity and is killing Arabs to further the Zionist entity’s interests.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Anonymous

    Yeah, yeah, I've heard. I don't care. I don't want us to support other countries territorial ambitions, and I don't want to indulge their damned blood-feuds over here. I don't care about either side in that war, because neither side is my side.

  42. Anonymous[239] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    Is the fight between the Ethiopians and the Oromos also the Jews' fault? Joos - is there ANYTHING (bad) that is NOT their fault?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Is the fight between the Ethiopians and the Oromos also the Jews’ fault? Joos – is there ANYTHING (bad) that is NOT their fault?

    Nice straw man, bud.

    Ethiopia’s US-backed aggression against Somalia is an indirect consequence of Zionism. Broadly speaking, the US “war on terror” throughout the Middle East and across the Muslim world is a de facto effort to suppress resistance to Zionism.

  43. @Buffalo Joe
    The Native tribes in North America hated each other and warred constantly, killing, rapimg, torturing and kidnapping. Maybe we should give these warring factions reservations and a casino license, seems to work.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    The Native tribes in North America hated each other and warred constantly, killing, rapimg, torturing and kidnapping. Maybe we should give these warring factions reservations and a casino license, seems to work.

    Yes, but that only worked because 99% of them were decimated by Eurasian diseases.

  44. Anonymous[504] • Disclaimer says:

    Twitter is indeed a “coincidence lattice” centrifuge. Right under the joke you linked they suggested to me a free-associated polemic by e-psychiatrist Bandy X. Lee (now has added an “X” I guess), whom I’d almost completely forgotten but dog/vomit etc. Been great the past 40 years to see how we’ve shored up our crucial stockpile of aggrieved outraged minority dragon ladies

  45. @Anonymous
    @Mr. Anon


    Anyway, I remember thinking to myself: don’t they have their own country (or at least occupied land) somewhere to do this? Why does my country have to be the thunderdome for the entire World’s sectarian squabbles.
     
    Because the United States is providing military and diplomatic backing to the Zionist entity and is killing Arabs to further the Zionist entity’s interests.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Yeah, yeah, I’ve heard. I don’t care. I don’t want us to support other countries territorial ambitions, and I don’t want to indulge their damned blood-feuds over here. I don’t care about either side in that war, because neither side is my side.

  46. Was re-reading “Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen” recently and struck by a section near the end. It’s early enlightenment tech and politics in a parallel dimension North America, and the title character is on his path as empire builder. A neighbouring country, about the size of a US state, has collapsed into chaos and disorder and Lord Kalvan is puzzled why his best political advisor keeps telling him not to intervene. He soon works out that it’s because when negotiating with others it’s very useful to have a horrible example to point to.

    So, make Minnesota that for the US. Conservatives should abstain from opposing the current state admin, or even covertly support them. Let Minnesota go all in on social experimentation. Three point plans are always popular, so how about
    1. Abolish the police! Turn policing over to community based conflict resolution groups if that’s the right jargon. (Should be fun when a Sharia Law neighbourhood catches some black teen thieves.)
    2. Universal Basic Income! Will encourage immigration from other US states, which has gotta be good.
    3. Reparations Tax! What’s the damage bill for the BLM riots? Pay for with a special tax levied on white Minnesota residents and majority white owned businesses.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @AusReader

    But white Minnesotans tend to be so reasonable and competent that they can probably keep any the state afloat no matter how ridiculous the policies that are imposed.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  47. @Achmed E. Newman
    No, you and Jack in southern Cali. don't get it, Steve. Listen, we're fighting them over there so they don't come to fight us over here, and due to fighting over there, we must let them come over here, but not to fight us over here, to fight each other over here, which will keep us safe because DEMOCRACY, DAMMIT!

    Replies: @personfellowindividual

    Whew! I’m glad that’s settled.

  48. Sometimes, supporting the Motherland involves conflict with the host country itself:

    “China’s ambassador in London has called on Chinese university students studying in the United Kingdom to “serve your motherland”, amid growing concern about the influence of Beijing on Western campuses…

    “Professor Christopher Hughes of the London School of Economics told The Times: “The idea of patriotism, in the Chinese context, means supporting the Communist Party…”

    The more Chinese students there are, the more they are controlled and used by the Chinese embassy. There are various groups that are set up to monitor their behaviour. So they don’t feel secure. That means you get creeping self-censorship.””

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/07/05/red-guards-in-britain-china-ambassador-calls-on-chinese-students-in-uk-to-serve-the-motherland/

  49. @Jane Plain
    Semi O/T, the guy who plowed into Mostly Peaceful Protesters in Seattle, who happened to be on a freeway (why?) is not a white supremacist. He is an Eritrean named Dawit Kelete.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Altai, @MEH 0910

  50. But think of all the great Ethiopian restaurants we have now!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @J. Farmer

    I'm partial to Eritrean food myself. "Tastes great!"

    "Less filling!"

    "OK, that's it. It's go time!"

    (Got my revolver stashed behind the toilet tank.)

  51. @Merema

    It would be nice if ethnic groups that hate each other in the Old Country would at least move to different parts of the country in the U.S. so they wouldn’t get on each others nerves so much. But, my impression is that feuding ethnic groups tend to move to the same neighborhoods in the U.S. so they can shop at the same grocery stores because they like, pretty much, the same types of food.
     
    Actually, not to worry, there are not too many Amharas in Minnesota. Minnesota is an Oromo stronghold because that's where Oromo refugees were settled. The Amhara stronghold is Washington DC.

    The good folks in Minnesota are being inconvenienced because of a conflict that is thousands of years old over the control of the Nile waters. Remember in the Bible when Pharaoh sent an army led by Moses to Nubia because Black people (Nubians) threatened to cut off the Nile's water supply?

    Jawar Mohammed, an Oromo living in Minnesota single-handedly founded the Oromo Media Network with money provided by EGYPT. Egypt is a a key player in all this because they are trying to destabilize Ethiopia. Egypt is panicking because they are loosing control of the Nile- their ONLY source of water. Most of the Nile water originates in the Amhara highlands and Ethiopia is building a HUGE dam. No Nile, no Egypt.

    Anyway, using OMN satellite TV beaming from Egypt, Jawar instigated and led an Oromo youth movement (know as the Queero) to overthrow the Ethiopian government dominated by the Tigray. He also used Facebook to reach his million followers.

    The Tigray, like the Amharas are Abyssinians (northern Ethiopians). But Queero had the tactical support to the Amharas because the latter had become embitterd by their fellow Abyssinian Tigray cousins. The Tigray had refused to share power with the Amhara. In fact, the Tigray worked to undermine Amharas.


    The Tigray's, who are only 6% of the population, had managed to stay in power from 1992 to recently using divide and rule by taking advantage of the animosity between Oromos (34%) and Amharas (27%). In fact they encouraged this Oromo hostility with constant propoganda of how Amhara kings had colonized them (true) and humiliated them culturally (true). However, their strategy blew up their face when the unthinkable happened. Amharas and Oromos formed an alliance and overthrow the Tigray govt.

    A new prime minister , Abiye Ahmed came to power and he promised a new dawn of Oromo-Amhara reconciliation, a new Ethiopia. Abiye was perfect for the job. His mother is an Amhara Orthodox Christian, his father an Oromo Muslim, and he himself a convert, a Protestant. He preached of love, unity, forgiveness and most of all unity. He released thousands of Oromo and Amhara political prisoners. He made peace with Eritrea, and before you know it Ethiopians and Eritreans in Chicago embraced each other as long lost brother.

    Love was in the air.

    Amhara and Oromo leaders in exile went back home, including Jawar. OMN opened an office in Addis Ababa. Abiye won the Nobel Peace Prize.


    Alas, the honeymoon between Amharas and Oromos did not last. Soon Oromo activists started attacking Amharas about past grievances, and demanded that the statues of the Amhara king that had conquered them come down. The Amharas refused and instead demanded that the Oromo destroy their graphic statue of a hand holding a cut-off breast. This statue commemorates a mass mutilation incident when Amhara conquistadors allegedly cutoff the breasts of conquered Oromo women. Amharas deny any breast cutting happened and reminded Oromo activists of the nasty Cushitic tradition of their warriors who used to cut off the penises of POWs.

    A few days ago, someone murdered an important Oromo protest singer (Haccallu) and all hell broke loose in Ethiopia and Minnesota. Jawar started making trouble again and and Abiye had no choice to arrest him and shut down OMN in Addis Ababa. Oromos shut down I-94 in St. Paul and toppled Haile Sellassie's (an Amhara king) statue in England.

    Egypt probably had Haccallu assassinated.

    Replies: @Herzog

    Merema,

    you’re obviously an Ethiopian or Eritrean, or of such descent, with the knowledge of details that comes with that. Thanks for the clear exposition.

    A few small questions, if I may, coming from someone who had some exposure to Ethiopia but has no in-depth insight.

    First, what role does religion play in this? Obviously, Jawar Mohammed is a Muslim, whereas Haccaallu was Orthodox. Does the present Oromo activism and violence transcend their internal Christian-Muslim divide, or is it the Muslim Oromos who are in creasingly in charge? Dire Dawa and Harer as hotspots during the recent events might point to Islam being an important component and catalyst just an inch beneath the surface. Them again, Ambo is a thoroughly Christian place, as far as I am aware. Can you help me out?

    Second, what is prime minister Abiy’s personal religiosity, apart from the purely denominational aspect, but rather with regard to his personality and character? What, if anything, does it mean to him?

    Finally, receiving a Nobel Peace Prize ever more seems like the opening chapter to a downward political trajectory from there onward.

    Many thanks.

  52. @J. Farmer
    But think of all the great Ethiopian restaurants we have now!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I’m partial to Eritrean food myself. “Tastes great!”

    “Less filling!”

    “OK, that’s it. It’s go time!”

    (Got my revolver stashed behind the toilet tank.)

  53. Ten years ago (!) there was a massive street fight in a Fargo, ND, parking lot between Sudanese and Liberians. Apparently the Somalis had no complaints. Not a great deal of Sudanese in Fargo anymore though. It’s mostly Somalis and West Africans; Liberians, Nigerians, Ghanaians. The flow of Africans into the town does not seem to have abated in the last 10 years.

  54. @AusReader
    Was re-reading "Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen" recently and struck by a section near the end. It's early enlightenment tech and politics in a parallel dimension North America, and the title character is on his path as empire builder. A neighbouring country, about the size of a US state, has collapsed into chaos and disorder and Lord Kalvan is puzzled why his best political advisor keeps telling him not to intervene. He soon works out that it's because when negotiating with others it's very useful to have a horrible example to point to.

    So, make Minnesota that for the US. Conservatives should abstain from opposing the current state admin, or even covertly support them. Let Minnesota go all in on social experimentation. Three point plans are always popular, so how about
    1. Abolish the police! Turn policing over to community based conflict resolution groups if that's the right jargon. (Should be fun when a Sharia Law neighbourhood catches some black teen thieves.)
    2. Universal Basic Income! Will encourage immigration from other US states, which has gotta be good.
    3. Reparations Tax! What's the damage bill for the BLM riots? Pay for with a special tax levied on white Minnesota residents and majority white owned businesses.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    But white Minnesotans tend to be so reasonable and competent that they can probably keep any the state afloat no matter how ridiculous the policies that are imposed.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer


    But white Minnesotans tend to be so reasonable and competent that they can probably keep any the state afloat no matter how ridiculous the policies that are imposed.
     
    There is a lot of ruin in a nation, Steve.
  55. Anonymous[239] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hans
    @Anonymous

    Blowback? The Kurzberg brothers didn't have any when holding their cigarette lighter aloft and posing for pictures while The Twin Towers burned.

    "The five aroused attention in New Jersey after people noticed them going to unusual lengths to photograph the World Trade Center ruins and making light of the situation. One photograph developed by the F.B.I. showed Sivan Kurzberg holding a lighted lighter in the foreground, with the smoldering wreckage in the background, said Steven Noah Gordon, a lawyer for the five."

    Thankfully, we are protected from knowing what the other photos showed.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/21/us/nation-challenged-detainees-dozens-israeli-jews-are-being-kept-federal-detention.html

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Blowback? The Kurzberg brothers didn’t have any when holding their cigarette lighter aloft and posing for pictures while The Twin Towers burned.

    It doesn’t surprise that Zionists would see fit to celebrate conflict between Arabs and Americans, or between Muslims and Christians. They thrive on it.

  56. Anonymous[239] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @AusReader

    But white Minnesotans tend to be so reasonable and competent that they can probably keep any the state afloat no matter how ridiculous the policies that are imposed.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    But white Minnesotans tend to be so reasonable and competent that they can probably keep any the state afloat no matter how ridiculous the policies that are imposed.

    There is a lot of ruin in a nation, Steve.

  57. @Altai
    Nothing will ever beat practically all the Turkish and Kurdish in Japan coming out to riot with each other.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBuVIq16O0A

    Most of them were 'Asylum seekers' at least some of whom actually got it. I suppose the 'grants very few ethnic-based asylum claims' and 'grants no ethnic-based asylum claims' are two different categories and Japan made the pragmatic choice.

    Replies: @Gabe Ruth

    I remember that video of the Turkish goons in suits beating down some retired teacher looking protesters, I think it was by the Turkish embassy. This was around the time of the failed coup against Erdogan by the guy in central PA. Looked like the Matrix scene where the agent keeps replicating himself and ganging up on Keanu.

  58. The war has spread to London, the lovely Cannizaro Park in lovely Wimbledon.

  59. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:

    Minnesota Is Turning Into a Front in the Ethiopian Civil War

    US is king in exporting its power dynamics and civil wars around the world.

    Because US bends to Jewish Power, other nations must be made to bend to Jewish Power, or else end up sanctioned like Iran.

    LGBT culture war has been exported all over the world.

    US embassies export BLM to other nations.

    Ethiopians are amateurs in this game.

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