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  1. I hope none of the millions of Indians who assembled to see Trump’s motorcade has coronavirus.

    They’ll be in our country soon enough, so then we can find out.

    • Agree: Autochthon, Mr McKenna
    • LOL: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @Just Passing Through
    Coronavirus seems to be a mainly East Asian phenomenon.

    Also, the types of people who are on that photo will remain in India. Interestingly, South Asia is one of the regions where the desire to emigrate is quite low (8% would say they would would move permanently abroad if they had the opportunity, compared to 8% in East Asian and 33% in Sub-Saharan Africa and 27% in Latin America) obviously given the populations of these regions it still means tens of millions wanting to migrate (this question was hypothetical, in reality those who will actually manage to emigrate will be far lower)

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/245255/750-million-worldwide-migrate.aspx
    , @International Jew
    There's much worse stuff about in India.
    https://youtu.be/OPogdJwYYvI at 0:50
  2. US is going to use India to balance of China in the military sphere, this visit is mostly about selling US weaponry. I believe the deal for dozens of MH-60 helicopters has already been inked.

    • Replies: @82-IQ H1B Indian
    Quad alliance (US, Japan, Australia and India) already conducted multiple military exercises. The unspoken understanding is that this group is a loose alliance which will prevent China from dominating Indo-Pacific.

    Right now India is fifth largest economy in the world (3rd largest in terms of PPP) & is less than a decade away from becoming third largest economy in the world.

    During second world war Soviets made maximum blood sacrifice against Nazis where as US made maximum blood sacrifice against Japanese to win the pacific. It is foolish to think that US will hand over Indo-Pacific to China and walk away.
    , @bob sykes
    Russia, once a semi-ally of India, has moved closer to China, and that must also be a factor. India needs a new balance point against China, too.
    , @El Dato
    There will probably be harsh words exchanged to push Raytheon goods, too.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/481091-us-india-first-foreign-policy/

    On the economic front, India has come under fire from Trump’s global trade war. The US president dubbed India the “king” of tariffs and withdrew New Delhi’s special trade privileges last year, affecting some $5 billion worth of Indian goods. The move sparked a tit-for-tat response from India, which raised tariffs on 28 American products.

    Washington has further sought to prevent India from doing business with Iran and Russia, a stance which undermines India’s energy and security interests. Meanwhile, New Delhi continues to brush off threats of US sanctions for its decision to purchase Russian S-400 anti-air systems.
     
    Also, Crackers Graham appears, and the US is told to mind its own business:

    India’s Foreign Minister Dr. Subrahmanyam Jaishankar is one of the chief architects of these policies, yet few have picked up on the hints he’s dropped on the doorsteps of Europe and the US.

    Jaishankar’s exchanged the life of a diplomat with that of a politician at the insistence of Modi last May. Just a few short months later, India had rewired [that's a nice wording] the state of Jammu and Kashmir, and Dr. Jaishankar has been shooting from the hip since.

    When US Senator Lindsey Graham appealed for a “democratic” resolution to the Kashmir crisis during the recently-concluded Munich Security Conference, Jaishankar fired back with a fitting retort.

    “Do not worry, senator. One democracy will settle it and you know which one,” he told the South Carolina Republican.
     
    , @bruce county
    He should be selling them deodorant.
    , @Oscar Peterson
    India may help develop a more favorable balance of power from a US perspective, but what does it really deter China from doing? It's not as though China is planning on launching invasions around Euroasia. Economic/technological advances are the core of their plan of competition.

    More dangerous to China would be a move by the US to co-opt a Taliban-led Afghanistan and a reinvigorated US-Pak relationship to exploit the Uighur issue and poison Chinese-Muslim relations

    Generating impediments to transportation infrastructure through Afghanistan that could link China, Iran and the Gulf by land routes is possibly a consideration as well.

    India can't really get its act together to challenge China economically--at least not so far. Interesting to see how the US is trying to upend renewed China-Sri Lanka ties once again with sanctions.

    Namaste Trump is all well and good, but I don't think China is overly concerned.
  3. @Buzz Mohawk

    I hope none of the millions of Indians who assembled to see Trump’s motorcade has coronavirus.
     
    They'll be in our country soon enough, so then we can find out.

    Coronavirus seems to be a mainly East Asian phenomenon.

    Also, the types of people who are on that photo will remain in India. Interestingly, South Asia is one of the regions where the desire to emigrate is quite low (8% would say they would would move permanently abroad if they had the opportunity, compared to 8% in East Asian and 33% in Sub-Saharan Africa and 27% in Latin America) obviously given the populations of these regions it still means tens of millions wanting to migrate (this question was hypothetical, in reality those who will actually manage to emigrate will be far lower)

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/245255/750-million-worldwide-migrate.aspx

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    India has a very low migration rate, about 192 per million, and a negative net migration rate. Of course, its population is huge, at 1.4 billion, and so, the absolute number of migrants is high.

    About 1% of India's population lives outside its borders, compared to a world average of 3%.


    https://www.thehindu.com/data/emigration-from-india-rises-but-remains-relatively-low/article7677645.ece

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/03/03/india-is-a-top-source-and-destination-for-worlds-migrants/
    , @PiltdownMan
    India has a very low migration rate, about 192 per million, and a negative net migration rate. Of course, its population is huge, at 1.4 billion, and so, the absolute number of migrants is high.

    About 1% of India's population lives outside its borders, compared to a world average of 3%.


    https://www.thehindu.com/data/emigration-from-india-rises-but-remains-relatively-low/article7677645.ece

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/03/03/india-is-a-top-source-and-destination-for-worlds-migrants/
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    Trump is trying to play India against China, but the two are not comparable. The subcontinental menagerie of low average IQ will not help offset the East Asian power team.

    Meanwhile, he hasn't done f*ck all about reducing H-1B flooding from either place, and his chief of staff says we "desperately" need more immigrants to boost our "economy." As always, the economy "trumps" the Citizens.

    Corona-chan is another one of those things we all are supposed to care about that actually don't cause too many problems for normal White people. Set it aside with lactose intolerance, AIDS, SARS, and frankly most flu viruses. The problem is, our controlled media do not speak about the racial aspects of any of these things.

    , @Dave Pinsen
    Don’t be fooled by that ridiculous column that appeared on Unz. The virus is in Europe now. It’s probably in the US now too (incubation period is long).

    https://twitter.com/skynews/status/1231673489771376642?s=21
    , @S. Anonyia
    It has spread to Italy. Some habitual marathon runner/male socialite from Northern Italy was patient zero (I assume, don’t quote me) and possibly exposed up to 15,000 people to the virus.

    He is ill but not dead. A few ethnic Italians have died and their government is taking this pretty seriously...canceling football.

    It’s also in Iran now, because of some Chinese travelers to Qom.

    If Iranians and Europeans are now catching it and getting seriously ill that means the theories about this primarily being a bioweapon to target East Asians were wrong. It could still be a bio weapon but looks like everyone is susceptible.

    Not sure if this is true but I’ve heard it’s much worse on men than women, and that men have been the majority of the deaths in Wuhan. Possibly due to men having more ACE 2 molecules in their lungs, which act as early receptors for the virus to bind to.

    Willing to bet a lot of people in the U.S already have it, and it hasn’t manifested yet. There are lots of missionaries and NGO workers who recently returned home from China or Thailand. Doubt they are taking precautions to avoid spreading it here, and these are very social people who attend lots of events. Things are probably going to get crazy in some U.S cities, come May or so.

    The news of it spreading to Italy sucks because my husband and I were planning a trip through Switzerland and Northern Italy.
    , @Desiderius
    Yes, dot Indians are fine in dot India.

    We only want Twinkies and Kash Patels, thx. No public charge types like Saini.
    , @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    It's already going nuclear in Italy, soon in all of Europe. In the States it's probably already spreading very far but they aren't testing anyone unless they went to China recently so there's no data for it. Same in Canada.

    Just you wait. These are interesting times.
  4. Long ago there were a lot White people in India. All the amazing accomplishments we read about in ancient India. But over time, they mixed with the local population and turned into what they are now.

    You can still see Indians who look like Europeans but their numbers are small.

    • Agree: neutral, Malla
    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
    Yes, but the whiter Indians are concentrated in the North, which generally is poorer and more run down than the South. For instance the people of Uttar Pradesh are much paler on average than the people of Tamil Nadu and Kerala, but the latter two states are among the most advanced in India while Uttar Pradesh is among the poorest.
    , @Just Passing Through
    I don't know where you read this stuff, but the only 'White' people who invaded India were the British, and even that wasn't a proper invasion.

    The 'Aryans' who came into India looked more like light-skinned Iranians than 'White' (the latter of which conjured up images of Northern Europeans in most people's minds.

    There is not a single Indian that looks European, as they are Caucasians, they will have European facial features, but they will not be European looking.

    The Taj Mahal was built in 1653 by Persian architects, Persians allegedly gave an IQ of 84 which puts them a tad above Indians who are alleged to have an IQ of 82.

    The ancient 'Aryans' who migrated into India didn't look like the Aryans most White people imagine when they hear the term (blue-eyes and blond(e) hair)

    Whites have a long list of achievements, I don't get why some people have to start doing this 'We wuz Hindoos n shieet' gig.
    , @Edward
    The Indus Valley Civilization was a pre-Aryan civilization. They were much better than the Aryans at architecture and writing, and were the first in the world to use standardized measures, wheeled transport and weighing scales; but the Aryans brought with them their religion and their farming.

    You’re correct that most of the medical, surgical and mathematical advances made in India—cataract and bladder surgery, the use of zero as a number, the decimal and numeral system, modern arithmetic, modern trigonometry (sine and cosine),the invention of negative numbers, Brahmagupta’s theorem, the discovery that quadratic equations can have two solutions—were made after the Aryans migrated to India. But I doubt the people who made those advances would be considered “white” by you if they were living today.

    And today, the darker South Indians are, on average, smarter than the lighter North Indians. Tamil Brahmins are pretty dark, and are the most accomplished group in India.

    Fields Medal winner Manjul Bhargava — whose family come from a group that used to be part of the Vaisya caste but have recently been promoted to Brahmin status — looks like this:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Manjul_Bhargava_FieldsMedal.jpg/220px-Manjul_Bhargava_FieldsMedal.jpg

    Akshay Venkatesh, another Fields Medal winner, looks like this:

    https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/4a78d33ad78390d7d80382a04e4d9571

    , @indocon
    Actually you have it completely reversed, India may be a rare exception where the arrival of all those Yamayas led to the creation of a divided casteist society that has been in the dumps ever since ~2500 years ago when they showed up. The DNA information clearly shows that the people who build Indus valley civilization, which by the way was the greatest civilization ever for its times, had no relationship to Yamayas. This is HBD 101.

    What's interesting is that the right wing upper cast Hindu party that is in power today is trying to expropriate the Indus Valley civilization all for themselves. They keep saying that there was no Aryan invasion and we are all the same, even though they and their relatives set a top off this crappy pyramid.
    , @Anonymous
    The Aryan invaders of India were like Pakistanis and Iranians and other Near Eastern peoples, rather than like Europeans.

    The pre-Aryan Harappan and Dravidian civilizations were the sophisticated cultures of ancient India. They had sophisticated plumbing and irrigation systems that post-Aryan India never recovered and still lacks today.

    Even today most of the intellectual talent of India comes from the Dravidian South.

    The Aryan invaders of India were likely similar to Pashtuns, Chechens, Pakistanis - very tribal, warlike groups that were good warriors and able to impose their rule.
    , @Thea
    They may have been Indo Europeans but they looked a lot more like West Asians than Norsemen.
    , @Anonymous
    The Buddha had blue eyes according to all the original reports. Sounds pretty Indo-European.
  5. I love you Donald Trump!!! Now give me visa please I leave this sh!thole come America at once, I program many computer for you get scholarship big American university marry many white girls I love you Donald Trump! please give me visa get me out of sh!thole NOW!!

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    They all want to touch his hair.
    , @PSR
    That seems to be one truism of Indian immigrants. They aren't after the white girl. They will marry Indian girl, have two children - first a boy, then a girl - buy a Toyota, bring parents from India to visit every August.
    , @Lockean Proviso
    Learn to say that you can code!
    , @Neoconned
    True story: in summer 2017 i went to see friends in Dallas/FW. I spent about 5 days by myself exploring the city....Deep Ellum, Mockingbird Station, downtown Dallas etc

    Anyway, i was taking the light rail around....often i found out later without a pass.....lol

    1 day i was screwing around downtown in early June near the Sheraton downtown. Long story short while sitting on the bench waiting for the train this Hispanic looking dude walks up to me. He looks homeless so i prepare to say "sorry man no dollar"....

    To my shock after the BO stench hit my nose he spoke in a thick Hindu accent rather than a Latin accent

    "Excuse me, where can i get job making cars? I do in my head."

    I look at him like hes a wacko and reply "think you gotta go to college for thatbuddy...."

    He has a blank look on his face & repeats the same thing. "I need job designing cars."

    I repeat the same thing and tokd him to apply at Texas A&M or UT Austin....

    Blank look. Repeats same line.

    I give him a thumbs up and motion my train is here and get on. He stares at me w a blank look and moves on to somebody else....

    Yeah...
  6. Shashi Tharoor wrote a good piece on coronavirus and India, recently:

    The three cases in India, all involving medical students from Wuhan who are now home in the state of Kerala, are all in stable condition and are being closely monitored, two in hospital isolation and one at home. India successfully evacuated 324 students from Wuhan who are now in quarantine in a detention facility in Manesar, less than two hours from the nation’s capital, where none has so far tested positive for the virus. Some 4,000 people are reported to be under observation at isolation wards across the country, but the number of confirmed cases has remained at three for over a week…

    The government has sprung into action and instituted health measures at airports and ports, including entry screening, travel advisories and signages at major ports of entry, with checks of any travellers showing signs of cold or fever. But infected persons could still slip through in the asymptomatic but infectious phase of the illness…

    State governments are stepping up preparedness measures. But there are worries about how well India is equipped to conduct disease surveillance, to deploy adequate laboratory testing capacity, to elevate hospital preparedness including infection prevention and control, and to communicate effectively to the public…

    not every state is like Kerala, and an outbreak almost anywhere else in the country is unlikely to be countered by an agile response system, adequate primary health care facilities to conduct the needed clinical assessments, sufficient lab capacity or effective isolation practices.

    https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/article/3050988/india-coronavirus-catastrophe-waiting-happen

    • Replies: @jim jones
    A lot of people say that xi jinping has lost the mandate of heaven:

    https://quillette.com/2020/02/22/losing-the-mandate-of-heaven/

    Because of all the disasters that have hit China since he took power
    , @Cato
    A bigger problem is Chinese tourists in Nepal, who may have transmitted the virus to Nepalese, who cross into India across an essentially open border. India itself is dirty and crowded, a perfect place for a virus to spread and conquer.
  7. Hey, why not? Bhagwan Shri Donald Trump is a God in India. He has his very own temple.

    Here we see Indians perform holy yagna (fire sacrifice) for Bhagwan Donald Trump’s victory

    https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c11f0d72100006708ca739a.jpeg?ops=scalefit_630_noupscale

    Bhagwan Trump returns to the land of his devotees. Take that Democrats. For the bad karma of trying to impeach Lord Bhagwan the best they can hope for their next birth is to be reborn as cockroaches living off the rubbish from the future Baron Trump’s garbage bin.

    • Thanks: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @El Dato
    Isn't that a statue of Mike Pence?
    , @The Alarmist
    It's a shame they don't have a lit sacred orb upon which Sri Trump can lay his blessed hands.

    All glories to Sri Trump!
    , @Redneck farmer
    They laughed when we called DJT the God-Emperor. Now who's laughing, heretics?
    , @Reg Cæsar
    https://miro.medium.com/max/3200/1*PMl7qVz_6sxB69e3kAopFg.jpeg
    , @Currahee
    Absolutely amazing.
    , @donut
    John Nicholson also had a cult that worshiped him during the Raj .
    , @Meena
    Muslim rulers in India used to be called Bhagwan by some Hindus . Most of those Delhi based Pathan and Mughal Kings used to be worshipped in most obsequious fashions by the Hindu elites surrounding them .
    Now their descendants propagate utmost hatred against those historical figures .
    Lord Curzon and other British dignitaries received similar adulations .

    Even Indra Ghadhi was called Mother Goddess Durga by Desai who later became prime minister of India .

    There is something about Indian attitude to power and wealth . It is nothing but expression of inherent impotence , flattery , moral corruption and lack of any emotional control .


    Don’t be surprised if one day we see these statues getting firebombed , being set on fire, or getting trampled by dog’s feet .

  8. Never underestimate the hatred for Muslims among Modi’s fans. They see, like many Nigerian Christians, the image of Trump as president of the United States as anti-Muslim as a big positive. Even if both groups see immigration to the West as their just right.

    Indeed, would Modi have done his quasi annexation of Indian-admin Kashmir if Hilary was president? Maybe, maybe not.

    • Replies: @UK
    The anti-colonialist west, and some on the dissident right, fail to understand just how unpopular Muslims have made Islam in much of the world. Even among Muslims themselves.

    America is many times more admired than any Muslim majority country. Only people trying to signal their own intellect by going against the obvious don't join in on that.

    Some people may want to use emotional blackmail to get free stuff or immigration to the US, but only the deluded few on places like Unz actually think the US is a less positive part of the world than any Islamic area.

    Trump is unapologetic and so the emotional blackmailers don't show up, while the secure and honest abroad allow their admiration to become obvious.

    , @anon
    That is the $20 bill a politician can pick up and run to victory. Trump was smart in that (after picking up the $100 "Mexicans are rapists, criminals ..." bill) while the others were looking away. He boosted his popularity after announcing the Muslim ban.

    The phrase guaranteed to cause stampede anywhere, anytime: "Allah Hu Akbar"
    , @anonymous

    Indeed, would Modi have done his quasi annexation of Indian-admin Kashmir if Hilary was president?
     
    Those rightwing lowlifes had promised the "annexation" for many years. It had nothing to do with Trump or Hillary.

    Maybe, maybe not.
     
    Which means you have no idea what you are talking about. This is for you;

    http://thequotes.in/it-is-better-to-keep-your-mouth-closed-and-let-people-think-you-are-a-fool-than-to-open-it-and-remove-all-doubt-mark-twain/

  9. I like the reply from “Sharma”.

  10. Coronavirus spreads via feces.

    A billion Indians who wipe their arse with bare hands.

    What could go wrong?

    • Replies: @BB753
    Too much heat and ultraviolet light for the virus to survive?
  11. Back here in the purple state of NC and soon to be purple Texas, Indians are civic minded, running for local and increasingly state and federal offices. This is a huge win for his re election campaign.

    I don’t believe more indian immigration is good for the US. Caste systems in our tech workplaces are a disaster, where whites unintentionally put lower caste managers over higher caste engineers, until such time as the Indians are able to assemble their own caste into a unit, which doesnt so anything because they lower castes than they do work. Worse Indians seem to have no values deeper than consumption. but better Indians than Somalis. and better India to help puah back against China’s belt and road.

    • Replies: @Peterike
    “Indians are civic minded, running for local and increasingly state and federal offices”

    That’s not civic mindedness. It’s just grabbing for power.
  12. I hope none of the millions of Indians who assembled to see Trump’s motorcade has coronavirus.

    At this moment, unless President Trump is touring Antarctica, this threat is everywhere.

    BTW the total population of Ahmedabad is less than 6 million. Probably 50 K would have gathered en route to the stadium & another 110K in the stadium. It is way less than a million.

    There are 2 major issues of convergence that are driving US & India closer. Economic ties & Indo-Pacific security. US already displaced China as India’s largest trading partner this year & India is 7th or 8th largest trading partner(and rising) of US.

  13. @RichardTaylor
    Long ago there were a lot White people in India. All the amazing accomplishments we read about in ancient India. But over time, they mixed with the local population and turned into what they are now.

    You can still see Indians who look like Europeans but their numbers are small.

    Yes, but the whiter Indians are concentrated in the North, which generally is poorer and more run down than the South. For instance the people of Uttar Pradesh are much paler on average than the people of Tamil Nadu and Kerala, but the latter two states are among the most advanced in India while Uttar Pradesh is among the poorest.

    • Replies: @Malla
    You get Caucasoid looking South Indians too especially amongst the elite castes. Like

    https://www.oneindia.com/img/2014/09/28-ashok-gajpati-raju.jpg

    Pusapati Ashok Gajapathi Raju, Indian politician and the former Union Minister for Civil Aviation of India. A scion of Royal family of Vizayanagram princely state, he is the younger son of the last Maharaja (King) of Vizianagram IN SOUTH INDIA. The Pusapatis are the descendants of Pericchedis, the ancient ruling clan of Andhra Pradesh, SOUTH INDIA. Paricchedis were staunch patrons of Hindu Dharma in contrast to the Chalukyas, who initially were patrons of Jainism.
  14. @Just Passing Through
    US is going to use India to balance of China in the military sphere, this visit is mostly about selling US weaponry. I believe the deal for dozens of MH-60 helicopters has already been inked.

    Quad alliance (US, Japan, Australia and India) already conducted multiple military exercises. The unspoken understanding is that this group is a loose alliance which will prevent China from dominating Indo-Pacific.

    Right now India is fifth largest economy in the world (3rd largest in terms of PPP) & is less than a decade away from becoming third largest economy in the world.

    During second world war Soviets made maximum blood sacrifice against Nazis where as US made maximum blood sacrifice against Japanese to win the pacific. It is foolish to think that US will hand over Indo-Pacific to China and walk away.

  15. @Just Passing Through
    Coronavirus seems to be a mainly East Asian phenomenon.

    Also, the types of people who are on that photo will remain in India. Interestingly, South Asia is one of the regions where the desire to emigrate is quite low (8% would say they would would move permanently abroad if they had the opportunity, compared to 8% in East Asian and 33% in Sub-Saharan Africa and 27% in Latin America) obviously given the populations of these regions it still means tens of millions wanting to migrate (this question was hypothetical, in reality those who will actually manage to emigrate will be far lower)

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/245255/750-million-worldwide-migrate.aspx

    India has a very low migration rate, about 192 per million, and a negative net migration rate. Of course, its population is huge, at 1.4 billion, and so, the absolute number of migrants is high.

    About 1% of India’s population lives outside its borders, compared to a world average of 3%.

    https://www.thehindu.com/data/emigration-from-india-rises-but-remains-relatively-low/article7677645.ece

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/03/03/india-is-a-top-source-and-destination-for-worlds-migrants/

  16. @Just Passing Through
    Coronavirus seems to be a mainly East Asian phenomenon.

    Also, the types of people who are on that photo will remain in India. Interestingly, South Asia is one of the regions where the desire to emigrate is quite low (8% would say they would would move permanently abroad if they had the opportunity, compared to 8% in East Asian and 33% in Sub-Saharan Africa and 27% in Latin America) obviously given the populations of these regions it still means tens of millions wanting to migrate (this question was hypothetical, in reality those who will actually manage to emigrate will be far lower)

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/245255/750-million-worldwide-migrate.aspx

    India has a very low migration rate, about 192 per million, and a negative net migration rate. Of course, its population is huge, at 1.4 billion, and so, the absolute number of migrants is high.

    About 1% of India’s population lives outside its borders, compared to a world average of 3%.

    https://www.thehindu.com/data/emigration-from-india-rises-but-remains-relatively-low/article7677645.ece

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/03/03/india-is-a-top-source-and-destination-for-worlds-migrants/

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    "About 1% of India’s population lives outside its borders, compared to a world average of 3%."

    But we ain't talkin' 1% of the population of Iceland either.
    , @Jack D
    Not only that, but from places like Guatemala we get the poorest of the poor who will be burdens on our social welfare system unto the 7th generation whereas India tends to send us skilled workers who are net positive taxpayers. (In India, the poorest of the poor are too poor even to travel). I realize folks here don't like immigrants period but there really is a difference between various immigrant groups. The Indians are not the ones who are going to be voting for socialismo.
    , @Ed
    Interesting because there are large Indian diasporas in Africa, Southeast Asia, Caribbean and Latin America
  17. @Buzz Mohawk

    I hope none of the millions of Indians who assembled to see Trump’s motorcade has coronavirus.
     
    They'll be in our country soon enough, so then we can find out.

    There’s much worse stuff about in India.

    at 0:50

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    No shit.
  18. @Just Passing Through
    US is going to use India to balance of China in the military sphere, this visit is mostly about selling US weaponry. I believe the deal for dozens of MH-60 helicopters has already been inked.

    Russia, once a semi-ally of India, has moved closer to China, and that must also be a factor. India needs a new balance point against China, too.

    • Replies: @Just Passing Through
    Russia was more than Sony a semi-ally and is still one of India's biggest allies. Russia seems to be managing it's relationship with China and India quite well, I personally think the Chinese are quite dependent on Russian weapons systems which is why they are not kicking up a fuss, you will notice that most Chinese weapons are just Russian licensed copies.

    For example, a country has to be a little more than simple a 'semi-ally' to be leasing nuclear attack submarines, as Russia has done to India.

    https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia-pacific/2019/03/08/india-signs-3-billion-contract-with-russia-for-lease-of-a-nuclear-submarine/
  19. @Just Passing Through
    US is going to use India to balance of China in the military sphere, this visit is mostly about selling US weaponry. I believe the deal for dozens of MH-60 helicopters has already been inked.

    There will probably be harsh words exchanged to push Raytheon goods, too.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/481091-us-india-first-foreign-policy/

    On the economic front, India has come under fire from Trump’s global trade war. The US president dubbed India the “king” of tariffs and withdrew New Delhi’s special trade privileges last year, affecting some $5 billion worth of Indian goods. The move sparked a tit-for-tat response from India, which raised tariffs on 28 American products.

    Washington has further sought to prevent India from doing business with Iran and Russia, a stance which undermines India’s energy and security interests. Meanwhile, New Delhi continues to brush off threats of US sanctions for its decision to purchase Russian S-400 anti-air systems.

    Also, Crackers Graham appears, and the US is told to mind its own business:

    India’s Foreign Minister Dr. Subrahmanyam Jaishankar is one of the chief architects of these policies, yet few have picked up on the hints he’s dropped on the doorsteps of Europe and the US.

    Jaishankar’s exchanged the life of a diplomat with that of a politician at the insistence of Modi last May. Just a few short months later, India had rewired [that’s a nice wording] the state of Jammu and Kashmir, and Dr. Jaishankar has been shooting from the hip since.

    When US Senator Lindsey Graham appealed for a “democratic” resolution to the Kashmir crisis during the recently-concluded Munich Security Conference, Jaishankar fired back with a fitting retort.

    “Do not worry, senator. One democracy will settle it and you know which one,” he told the South Carolina Republican.

    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
    Ouch! Call the burn ward!
  20. I wonder if any of them are holding up signs that say “Trump for Indians!” like they did during the 2016 US presidential election.

  21. @Malla
    Hey, why not? Bhagwan Shri Donald Trump is a God in India. He has his very own temple.

    https://www.greattelangaana.com/english/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Trump-Temple.jpg

    https://www.eturbonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/0a.jpg

    https://img.etimg.com/thumb/msid-74203511,width-640,resizemode-4,imgsize-68884/life-size-statue-of-trump.jpg

    Here we see Indians perform holy yagna (fire sacrifice) for Bhagwan Donald Trump's victory

    https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c11f0d72100006708ca739a.jpeg?ops=scalefit_630_noupscale

    https://www.storypick.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/TR-2.jpg

    https://www.thenewsminute.com/sites/default/files/styles/news_detail/public/donald_trump_prayers_PTI.jpg?itok=qYeko1SU

    Bhagwan Trump returns to the land of his devotees. Take that Democrats. For the bad karma of trying to impeach Lord Bhagwan the best they can hope for their next birth is to be reborn as cockroaches living off the rubbish from the future Baron Trump's garbage bin.

    Isn’t that a statue of Mike Pence?

    • Replies: @Malla
    In the land of millions of Gods there is place of a Lord Bhagwan Trump as well as a Lord Bhagwan Pence.
  22. @Malla
    Hey, why not? Bhagwan Shri Donald Trump is a God in India. He has his very own temple.

    https://www.greattelangaana.com/english/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Trump-Temple.jpg

    https://www.eturbonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/0a.jpg

    https://img.etimg.com/thumb/msid-74203511,width-640,resizemode-4,imgsize-68884/life-size-statue-of-trump.jpg

    Here we see Indians perform holy yagna (fire sacrifice) for Bhagwan Donald Trump's victory

    https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c11f0d72100006708ca739a.jpeg?ops=scalefit_630_noupscale

    https://www.storypick.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/TR-2.jpg

    https://www.thenewsminute.com/sites/default/files/styles/news_detail/public/donald_trump_prayers_PTI.jpg?itok=qYeko1SU

    Bhagwan Trump returns to the land of his devotees. Take that Democrats. For the bad karma of trying to impeach Lord Bhagwan the best they can hope for their next birth is to be reborn as cockroaches living off the rubbish from the future Baron Trump's garbage bin.

    It’s a shame they don’t have a lit sacred orb upon which Sri Trump can lay his blessed hands.

    All glories to Sri Trump!

    • Replies: @Malla

    All glories to Sri Trump!
     
    As they say in India, "Jai Shri Trump!!!"
  23. • Replies: @Autochthon

    Their papers will go to 1thirteen subcommittees (called “panels,” because astronomers can’t use normal words in normal ways)....
     

    pan·​el | \ ˈpa-nᵊl \
    ...
    b (1) : a group of persons selected for some service (such as investigation or arbitration)
    a panel of experts
    a government advisory panel
    b (2) : a group of persons who discuss before an audience a topic of public interest
    The panel agreed to accept questions following the discussion.
     
    http://www.sarahscoles.com/uploads/2/9/9/6/29967993/published/00100dportrait-00100-burst20190119190006443-cover.jpg

    I'm a Denver-based freelance science writer, a contributing writer at WIRED Science, and a contributing editor at Popular Science. I am also the author of the book ​Making Contact: Jill Tarter and the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence and the forthcoming They Are Already Here: UFO Culture and Why We See Saucers. A writing portfolio lives here. In previous lives, I was an associate editor at Astronomy and a public education person at the National Radio Astronomy Observatory in Green Bank, West Virginia. When I'm not making sentences or recording our conversations, I enjoy reading short story collections, running weirdly long distances in the wilderness, teaching my dog English, and trying to become a better navigator.
     
  24. @Just Passing Through
    Coronavirus seems to be a mainly East Asian phenomenon.

    Also, the types of people who are on that photo will remain in India. Interestingly, South Asia is one of the regions where the desire to emigrate is quite low (8% would say they would would move permanently abroad if they had the opportunity, compared to 8% in East Asian and 33% in Sub-Saharan Africa and 27% in Latin America) obviously given the populations of these regions it still means tens of millions wanting to migrate (this question was hypothetical, in reality those who will actually manage to emigrate will be far lower)

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/245255/750-million-worldwide-migrate.aspx

    Trump is trying to play India against China, but the two are not comparable. The subcontinental menagerie of low average IQ will not help offset the East Asian power team.

    Meanwhile, he hasn’t done f*ck all about reducing H-1B flooding from either place, and his chief of staff says we “desperately” need more immigrants to boost our “economy.” As always, the economy “trumps” the Citizens.

    Corona-chan is another one of those things we all are supposed to care about that actually don’t cause too many problems for normal White people. Set it aside with lactose intolerance, AIDS, SARS, and frankly most flu viruses. The problem is, our controlled media do not speak about the racial aspects of any of these things.

    • LOL: IHTG
    • Replies: @Just Passing Through
    Coronavirus should be deadly in India given the congestion and close proximity of people, yet no deaths have been reported, puzzlingly there have allegedly been 12 deaths in Iran and I don't think there are many Chinese in Iran, so it does also make me question if it really only is very deadly against East Asians.

    H-1B visas will realistically never go down as the GDP trump's the people always. Although many will not admit it, those Asian coolie coders get the job done for a lower cost.

    The US will play India against China. And there is no such thing as the 'East Asian power team', Japan is also reputedly quite hostile to China and Japan is close to India and the US.

    I wouldn't be surprised if we see some US bases in India in the near future, it will be a good location geographically to cut China's oil supply in the event if a war.

    It is also quite possible India is playing born sides, much like Turkey. The US still sells arms to both despite both countries having bought the Russian S-400 missile system.

    India's problem is not just low-IQ, it is the crazy amounts of diversity they have, nothing gets done because one caste is at another's caste's throat most of the time. Apparently there are a group of upper castes that are analogous to Jews in the West, in that they exploit the masses by speculating with their labour, such a group never helps in development.

    Anyway, India is in the pockets of the Anglo-Zionists ever since the 1991 IMF bailout.
    , @The Wild Geese Howard

    The problem is, our controlled media do not speak about the racial aspects of any of these things.
     
    Our woke controlled media really are sick.

    Their refusal to even mention the possibility that certain ethnicities are more susceptible to Corona-chan is creating unnecessary fear that could lead to wider panic.

    But, what would one expect from such a collectively ignorant, immoral group of people?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B5XNM_wVnw

    I LOVE YOU CORONA-CHAN!
    , @Known Fact
    I hope you're right and this isn't a big deal, but I'd like to see NY media pay at least a little more attention to the potential threat. Instead, my local paper's big Sunday story was "not enough female school superintendents"

    Dow down 763 right now so that might get some attention (from somewhere besides Zero Hedge)

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    "Trump is trying to play India against China, but the two are not comparable. "

    Agreed. I guess he tries to find allies where he can.

    "Meanwhile, he hasn’t done f*ck all about reducing H-1B flooding"

    Also agreed.

    People sometimes comment on the few small indications that Jewish people are pivoting towards China as global power structures change. I'd not realised, but the Jewish Autonomous Oblast, established in 1928 as a way of populating the Russian Far East with anti-White Russian (in the political sense) people, actually shares a border with China along the Amur River, and will soon be linked with China by a new rail bridge.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

    Admittedly the climate's not the best, and most of the Jews left after the Soviet Union collapsed, but Jewish pioneers did pretty well in Palestine. I see a future Special Economic Zone on the Chinese side, and maybe more Jewish cross-country skiers.

    , @Louis Renault

    his chief of staff says we “desperately” need more immigrants to boost our “economy.
     
    Of course he does. Have you seen what our woke universities have been turning out for the past 20 years?
    , @jb
    It's possible that Coronavirus is an East Asian thing that won't affect anyone else too badly, but it will take a while to know for sure, and it wouldn't be wise at this point to just assume that this is going to be true.
  25. @Malla
    Hey, why not? Bhagwan Shri Donald Trump is a God in India. He has his very own temple.

    https://www.greattelangaana.com/english/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Trump-Temple.jpg

    https://www.eturbonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/0a.jpg

    https://img.etimg.com/thumb/msid-74203511,width-640,resizemode-4,imgsize-68884/life-size-statue-of-trump.jpg

    Here we see Indians perform holy yagna (fire sacrifice) for Bhagwan Donald Trump's victory

    https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c11f0d72100006708ca739a.jpeg?ops=scalefit_630_noupscale

    https://www.storypick.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/TR-2.jpg

    https://www.thenewsminute.com/sites/default/files/styles/news_detail/public/donald_trump_prayers_PTI.jpg?itok=qYeko1SU

    Bhagwan Trump returns to the land of his devotees. Take that Democrats. For the bad karma of trying to impeach Lord Bhagwan the best they can hope for their next birth is to be reborn as cockroaches living off the rubbish from the future Baron Trump's garbage bin.

    They laughed when we called DJT the God-Emperor. Now who’s laughing, heretics?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    But will he transform into a swarm of sandtrouts as his enemies close in on him?
    , @Ron Mexico
    When the MSM and Dems started calling him literally Hitler, they probably were excited that the Fuhrer had returned as Orange Man.
  26. @RichardTaylor
    Long ago there were a lot White people in India. All the amazing accomplishments we read about in ancient India. But over time, they mixed with the local population and turned into what they are now.

    You can still see Indians who look like Europeans but their numbers are small.

    I don’t know where you read this stuff, but the only ‘White’ people who invaded India were the British, and even that wasn’t a proper invasion.

    The ‘Aryans’ who came into India looked more like light-skinned Iranians than ‘White’ (the latter of which conjured up images of Northern Europeans in most people’s minds.

    There is not a single Indian that looks European, as they are Caucasians, they will have European facial features, but they will not be European looking.

    The Taj Mahal was built in 1653 by Persian architects, Persians allegedly gave an IQ of 84 which puts them a tad above Indians who are alleged to have an IQ of 82.

    The ancient ‘Aryans’ who migrated into India didn’t look like the Aryans most White people imagine when they hear the term (blue-eyes and blond(e) hair)

    Whites have a long list of achievements, I don’t get why some people have to start doing this ‘We wuz Hindoos n shieet’ gig.

    • Agree: Thea
    • Replies: @Malla
    Don't forget the Scythians.
    , @JohnPlywood
    Bullshit. India was invaded by the Indo-Scythians, Andronovo-descended people, Yuezhi, etc. These people were light haired and light eyed.


    Pic related, it's a Yuezhi bust from Khalchayan:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Bust_of_a_man_from_Khalchayan.jpg

    Scythian mummy from Zanjan, Iran:


    https://assets.atlasobscura.com/media/W1siZiIsInVwbG9hZHMvcGxhY2VfaW1hZ2VzL3NhbHRtYW4taXJhbi5qcGciXSxbInAiLCJ0aHVtYiIsIngzOTA-Il0sWyJwIiwiY29udmVydCIsIi1xdWFsaXR5IDgxIC1hdXRvLW9yaWVudCJdXQ/saltman-iran.jpg


    Blond Scythian mummy from central Mongolia:


    https://www.spiegel.de/international/archeological-sensation-ancient-mummy-found-in-mongolia-a-433600.html


    The mummy is unbelievably valuable to science," Hermann Parzinger, president of the German Archeological Institute (DAI), said on Thursday in Berlin. He described the mummy recently discovered in Mongolia as a "one of a kind find" that could increase our knowledge about the nutrition and health of early man.

    The mummy, which is believed to be about 2,500 years old was a 30-to-40 year-old man with blond hair, and was found in very good condition, Patzinger said
     

    Iranians (Persians) are BMAC-rich Meds. The nomadic Indo-Iranians and the central Asian sedentary Indo-Europeans like the Yuezhi contained a Nordic racial element, however, with others being mixed with Dravidoid or Mongoloid.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    "there is not a single Indian that looks European"

    Not in India, agreed. Maybe on the Pakistani/Afghan border, or among the Kalashas.

    https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l6ybwlMn9U1qcmed9o1_540.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/474x/72/41/57/72415753a10877c1c9b0189d8b4c1082--afghan-girl-girls-life.jpg
    , @Malla

    The ‘Aryans’ who came into India looked more like light-skinned Iranians than ‘White’ (the latter of which conjured up images of Northern Europeans in most people’s minds.
     
    Honestly we do not have any real clue what the invading/migrating Aryans looked like but we do not know if they looked like light skinned Iranians either. Both "blue eyed blond" and "light skinned Iranians" are just assumptions. However there is one clue.

    And the clue are the ancient Alans
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alans

    The name Alan is an Iranian dialectical form of Aryan, a common self-designation of the Indo-Iranians.[2] Possibly related to the Massagetae, the Alans have been connected by modern historians with the Central Asian Yancai and Aorsi of Chinese and Roman sources, respectively.[6] Having migrated westwards and become dominant among the Sarmatians on the Pontic Steppe, they are mentioned by Roman sources in the 1st century AD.[1] At the time, they had settled the region north of the Black Sea and frequently raided the Parthian Empire and the Caucasian provinces of the Roman Empire.[1] In 215–250 AD, their power on the Pontic Steppe was broken by the Goths.

    The various forms of Alan – Greek: Ἀλανοί Alanoi; Chinese: 阿蘭聊 Alanliao (Pinyin) in the 2nd century,[11] 阿蘭 Alan in the 3rd century[12] and later Alanguo (阿蘭國)[13] – are derived from Iranian dialectal forms of Aryan.[2][14] This word was preserved in modern Ossetian language in form of Allon.[15][16] These and other variants of Aryan (such as Iran) were common self-designations of the Indo-Iranians, the common ancestors of the Indo-Aryans and Iranian peoples to whom the Alans belonged.
    …snip…
    The fourth-century Roman historian Ammianus Marcellinus wrote that the Alans were tall, and blond:

    Nearly all the Alani are men of great stature and beauty; their hair is somewhat yellow, their eyes are terribly fierce.[57]
    , @anon
    you are wrong its old news already

    the people who conquered india were andronovo people genetically identical to north euros , lazaridis the famous harvard profesor that lead the research reconized it long ago ,indian admixture is steppe mlba in other words european

    http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2018/04/on-doorstep-of-india.html

    , @RichardTaylor

    The ancient ‘Aryans’ who migrated into India didn’t look like the Aryans most White people imagine when they hear the term (blue-eyes and blond(e) hair)
     
    This may be true although they say the Buddha had blue eyes. But lots of White people - or shall we just say Indo-Europeans - don't have blonde hair and blue eyes. But they stem from common ancestors.

    Whites have a long list of achievements, I don’t get why some people have to start doing this ‘We wuz Hindoos n shieet’ gig.
     
    It matters because if White people - or Aryans - or Indo-Europeans - or Yamnaya- or whatever new name we create for them - actually gave India it's amazing accomplishments in the past but were sadly drowned in the larger Brown population leading to a couple of millennia of suffering, well, we don't want to repeat that mistake, do we?
    , @Anonymous
    These people originated in southern Russia and Ukraine so it's hard to imagine them being anything but white--unless they were recent immigrants from warmer climates, or the world climate was radically different back then.

    You're probably correct that they weren't blonde/blue-eyed, as that phenotype originated on the shores of the Baltic Sea, which is on the opposite side of Europe.
  27. @International Jew
    There's much worse stuff about in India.
    https://youtu.be/OPogdJwYYvI at 0:50

    No shit.

  28. @Malla
    Hey, why not? Bhagwan Shri Donald Trump is a God in India. He has his very own temple.

    https://www.greattelangaana.com/english/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Trump-Temple.jpg

    https://www.eturbonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/0a.jpg

    https://img.etimg.com/thumb/msid-74203511,width-640,resizemode-4,imgsize-68884/life-size-statue-of-trump.jpg

    Here we see Indians perform holy yagna (fire sacrifice) for Bhagwan Donald Trump's victory

    https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c11f0d72100006708ca739a.jpeg?ops=scalefit_630_noupscale

    https://www.storypick.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/TR-2.jpg

    https://www.thenewsminute.com/sites/default/files/styles/news_detail/public/donald_trump_prayers_PTI.jpg?itok=qYeko1SU

    Bhagwan Trump returns to the land of his devotees. Take that Democrats. For the bad karma of trying to impeach Lord Bhagwan the best they can hope for their next birth is to be reborn as cockroaches living off the rubbish from the future Baron Trump's garbage bin.

    • LOL: Malla
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    • Absolutely Fabulous!
  29. @Buzz Mohawk
    Trump is trying to play India against China, but the two are not comparable. The subcontinental menagerie of low average IQ will not help offset the East Asian power team.

    Meanwhile, he hasn't done f*ck all about reducing H-1B flooding from either place, and his chief of staff says we "desperately" need more immigrants to boost our "economy." As always, the economy "trumps" the Citizens.

    Corona-chan is another one of those things we all are supposed to care about that actually don't cause too many problems for normal White people. Set it aside with lactose intolerance, AIDS, SARS, and frankly most flu viruses. The problem is, our controlled media do not speak about the racial aspects of any of these things.

    Coronavirus should be deadly in India given the congestion and close proximity of people, yet no deaths have been reported, puzzlingly there have allegedly been 12 deaths in Iran and I don’t think there are many Chinese in Iran, so it does also make me question if it really only is very deadly against East Asians.

    H-1B visas will realistically never go down as the GDP trump’s the people always. Although many will not admit it, those Asian coolie coders get the job done for a lower cost.

    The US will play India against China. And there is no such thing as the ‘East Asian power team’, Japan is also reputedly quite hostile to China and Japan is close to India and the US.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if we see some US bases in India in the near future, it will be a good location geographically to cut China’s oil supply in the event if a war.

    It is also quite possible India is playing born sides, much like Turkey. The US still sells arms to both despite both countries having bought the Russian S-400 missile system.

    India’s problem is not just low-IQ, it is the crazy amounts of diversity they have, nothing gets done because one caste is at another’s caste’s throat most of the time. Apparently there are a group of upper castes that are analogous to Jews in the West, in that they exploit the masses by speculating with their labour, such a group never helps in development.

    Anyway, India is in the pockets of the Anglo-Zionists ever since the 1991 IMF bailout.

    • Replies: @donut
    Rumors are flying every where , as to the deaths in Iran the figure I saw was two elderly males in the city of Qum which is apparently some kind a pilgrimage and teaching center for the Shias and attracts people from all over , China included .

    The Back Death , another gift from the East killed 50% of Europeans but in the end it had a positive effect in the evolution of the European economy and society's development . I'm sure that several of the more knowledgeable posters here can correct me if I'm wrong and would welcome any input .
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    Good points. Just one and a half quibbles: My term "East Asian power team" meant China itself as an economic power. No collection of nations was intended. India cannot offset China in some trade-competitive way, in whatever manner that is imagined to be, precisely because of its low IQ and "crazy amounts of diversity," which I called a menagerie.
  30. @Altai
    Never underestimate the hatred for Muslims among Modi's fans. They see, like many Nigerian Christians, the image of Trump as president of the United States as anti-Muslim as a big positive. Even if both groups see immigration to the West as their just right.

    Indeed, would Modi have done his quasi annexation of Indian-admin Kashmir if Hilary was president? Maybe, maybe not.

    The anti-colonialist west, and some on the dissident right, fail to understand just how unpopular Muslims have made Islam in much of the world. Even among Muslims themselves.

    America is many times more admired than any Muslim majority country. Only people trying to signal their own intellect by going against the obvious don’t join in on that.

    Some people may want to use emotional blackmail to get free stuff or immigration to the US, but only the deluded few on places like Unz actually think the US is a less positive part of the world than any Islamic area.

    Trump is unapologetic and so the emotional blackmailers don’t show up, while the secure and honest abroad allow their admiration to become obvious.

    • Replies: @Just passing through
    This is also one of the reasons why support for Israel is generally high. Most people on Unz most likely dislike Jews because of the activities of their elite in Western nations, as such they want to hit back and destroy Israel's national fabric by using low-IQ Palestinians as pawns.

    However for those who are uninitiated in the JQ, this sounds puzzling and they (quite rightly) cannot bring themseleves to sympathise with Palestinians, after witnessing Muslim behaviour in the Western world.

    So even when some IDF sniper shoots a kid in the face, most Westerners just shrug and say 'he shouldn't have been there throwing stones', the Israel-Palestine conflict allows Westerners to enjoy their fanatasies of violence against Muslims being played out in real life, albeit in a completely different part of the world.
    , @anonymous

    how unpopular Muslims have made Islam in much of the world
     
    Muslims are simply reacting to the evil they have to endure from the pagan/godless Islamophobic peoples who sense a threat from the true monotheism of Islam. It is going to be a long struggle to convert the lot of your descendants (most like you are irredeemable).

    In the meantime, we muslims will continue to worship the One God of all existence, and to humbly earn our ticket to Paradise, Almighty One willing, while all you pagan/godless Islamophobes can expect is a one way ticket to Hell, Almighty One willing. We will have the last laugh.


    while the secure and honest abroad allow their admiration to become obvious.
     
    Trump is quite evidently an amoral lowlife (grab 'em by the pu**y, yeah!). What does it say about those who admire him? It's truly pathetic.
  31. “As Trump Barricades the Border, Legal Immigration Is Beginning to Plunge”: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/24/us/politics/trump-border-legal-immigration.html

    • LOL: Buzz Mohawk
  32. @Buzz Mohawk
    Trump is trying to play India against China, but the two are not comparable. The subcontinental menagerie of low average IQ will not help offset the East Asian power team.

    Meanwhile, he hasn't done f*ck all about reducing H-1B flooding from either place, and his chief of staff says we "desperately" need more immigrants to boost our "economy." As always, the economy "trumps" the Citizens.

    Corona-chan is another one of those things we all are supposed to care about that actually don't cause too many problems for normal White people. Set it aside with lactose intolerance, AIDS, SARS, and frankly most flu viruses. The problem is, our controlled media do not speak about the racial aspects of any of these things.

    The problem is, our controlled media do not speak about the racial aspects of any of these things.

    Our woke controlled media really are sick.

    Their refusal to even mention the possibility that certain ethnicities are more susceptible to Corona-chan is creating unnecessary fear that could lead to wider panic.

    But, what would one expect from such a collectively ignorant, immoral group of people?

    I LOVE YOU CORONA-CHAN!

    • Replies: @MEH 0910

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    ノ◕ヮ◕ノ ・゚✧Cowona Viwus chan wuvs u ◕ω◕✿
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k_87m-pJqs
  33. @Buzz Mohawk
    Trump is trying to play India against China, but the two are not comparable. The subcontinental menagerie of low average IQ will not help offset the East Asian power team.

    Meanwhile, he hasn't done f*ck all about reducing H-1B flooding from either place, and his chief of staff says we "desperately" need more immigrants to boost our "economy." As always, the economy "trumps" the Citizens.

    Corona-chan is another one of those things we all are supposed to care about that actually don't cause too many problems for normal White people. Set it aside with lactose intolerance, AIDS, SARS, and frankly most flu viruses. The problem is, our controlled media do not speak about the racial aspects of any of these things.

    I hope you’re right and this isn’t a big deal, but I’d like to see NY media pay at least a little more attention to the potential threat. Instead, my local paper’s big Sunday story was “not enough female school superintendents”

    Dow down 763 right now so that might get some attention (from somewhere besides Zero Hedge)

  34. @PiltdownMan
    India has a very low migration rate, about 192 per million, and a negative net migration rate. Of course, its population is huge, at 1.4 billion, and so, the absolute number of migrants is high.

    About 1% of India's population lives outside its borders, compared to a world average of 3%.


    https://www.thehindu.com/data/emigration-from-india-rises-but-remains-relatively-low/article7677645.ece

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/03/03/india-is-a-top-source-and-destination-for-worlds-migrants/

    “About 1% of India’s population lives outside its borders, compared to a world average of 3%.”

    But we ain’t talkin’ 1% of the population of Iceland either.

  35. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    I love you Donald Trump!!! Now give me visa please I leave this sh!thole come America at once, I program many computer for you get scholarship big American university marry many white girls I love you Donald Trump! please give me visa get me out of sh!thole NOW!!

    They all want to touch his hair.

  36. @Just Passing Through
    Coronavirus seems to be a mainly East Asian phenomenon.

    Also, the types of people who are on that photo will remain in India. Interestingly, South Asia is one of the regions where the desire to emigrate is quite low (8% would say they would would move permanently abroad if they had the opportunity, compared to 8% in East Asian and 33% in Sub-Saharan Africa and 27% in Latin America) obviously given the populations of these regions it still means tens of millions wanting to migrate (this question was hypothetical, in reality those who will actually manage to emigrate will be far lower)

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/245255/750-million-worldwide-migrate.aspx

    Don’t be fooled by that ridiculous column that appeared on Unz. The virus is in Europe now. It’s probably in the US now too (incubation period is long).

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    *sigh*

    The three Italians that passed away were 80, 84, and 88.

    One had already been hospitalized for a heart attack. Another had, "...other pathologies..."

    https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ansa.it%2Fcanale_saluteebenessere%2Fnotizie%2Fsanita%2F2020%2F02%2F24%2Fcoronavirus-_60aae600-8535-44d9-86de-48c4b71478ef.html

    My larger point is that, for different reasons, neither Chinese nor Anglo sources can be relied upon.

    , @Alden
    6 Italians, Italians, not Asians living in Italy died of the virus in the last few days. All were over 75, one was 88.
  37. @PiltdownMan
    India has a very low migration rate, about 192 per million, and a negative net migration rate. Of course, its population is huge, at 1.4 billion, and so, the absolute number of migrants is high.

    About 1% of India's population lives outside its borders, compared to a world average of 3%.


    https://www.thehindu.com/data/emigration-from-india-rises-but-remains-relatively-low/article7677645.ece

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/03/03/india-is-a-top-source-and-destination-for-worlds-migrants/

    Not only that, but from places like Guatemala we get the poorest of the poor who will be burdens on our social welfare system unto the 7th generation whereas India tends to send us skilled workers who are net positive taxpayers. (In India, the poorest of the poor are too poor even to travel). I realize folks here don’t like immigrants period but there really is a difference between various immigrant groups. The Indians are not the ones who are going to be voting for socialismo.

    • Replies: @Just Passing Through
    That's where you are wrong kiddo

    https://www.8asians.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/AALDEF_2012_AA_voting_by_enthnicity.png

    https://www.8asians.com/2013/02/05/aaldef-asian-american-vote-in-2012-varied-by-ethnic-group-and-geographic-location/

    Interestingly, despite Chinese and Indian being the richest ethnic group in America, they both skew heavily towards Dems.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income


    I know a lot of Filipinos are Christian so that explains the relatively high level of support for the GOP amongst that cohort, but I am puzzled by the high level of support for Republicans amongst Vietnamese.

    , @Spaulding Smails
    Having worked in tech I can absolutely tell you the subcon H-1Bs are not terribly good at their jobs (haven't met any non-subcon who's worked in tech who disagrees with this observation FYI). All bringing them in does is saturate the market for middle class/white collar jobs just like importing millions of Central Americans did and continues to do to the working class/blue collar sector. And subcons overwhelmingly pull the lever for Dems, even though they tend to be high(er) earners. Trump trying to court their votes is in vain. You're not necessarily going to get socialism with the Dems; more like a caste/castizo system with woke state/corporate-enforced rhetoric and some minimal trappings of socialism (some gibs for some lumpemproles, depending on how many intersectionality boxes they can check off). Subcons have rapidly mastered woke rhetoric and are clearly much more effective at leveraging it than, say, E. Asians. As they essentially wrote the book on caste systems, this is a very good fit for the subcons.

    Fun times ahead, indeed.
    , @Alfa158
    Indian immigrants to the US don’t vote left at a 95% proportion like Blacks, but they are voting for socialismo just as much as Guatemalans. If Sanders gets the nomination they’ll still give him 75% of their vote.
    They are supremely opportunistic people and see the advantage of casting their lot with the Anti-White Coalition of the Fringes. For now. By the time they realize that the Socialists will be parasiting off of their wealth, it will be too late and they will have no more say in public policy than a Republican voter in California.
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Not only that, but from places like Guatemala we get the poorest of the poor who will be burdens on our social welfare system unto the 7th generation whereas India tends to send us skilled workers who are net positive taxpayers. (In India, the poorest of the poor are too poor even to travel). I realize folks here don’t like immigrants period but there really is a difference between various immigrant groups. The Indians are not the ones who are going to be voting for socialismo.
     
    Jack, I think you're entirely missing the point.

    The purpose of the U.S. immigration system should be to further the interests of the American people generally defined.

    Simultaneously importing both Guatemalans and Indians is a pincers move against the native American population.

    The Guatemalans perform unskilled labor for rock bottom prices - I'm aware that many live in apartments with multiple adult men whether they're landscaping, framing, drywalling or roofing. The wages are therefore kept so low that entire labor markets are consumed by foreigners. If one falls off a roof and goes SPLAT, you can just throw him in a wheel barrow and have Hector and Carlos dump him in the ER , do some of the "no hable" act, and run back into the truck to get back to work.

    You are correct that many young Indian immigrants don't directly use welfare programs, but they've been known to heavily use the chain migration strategy to bring over non-prime age Indians to reside here and soak up various benefits.

    Indians of course use their broad family networks of support and resort to cram school tactics to propel their kids to success compared with native born Americans. I don't think that this is a standard route to success that we want to impose upon American kids. It's important to a lot of middle Americans that their kids - even the bright ones - develop not just academically but socially, morally, and athletically. A bright white boy shouldn't have to eschew baseball pr friendships or chasing girls or reading for pleasure because he's losing ground to the kids of Indian immigrants who are cramming in some miserable zero sum cut throat competition.

    If you've attended a Medical School graduation ceremony recently you'll see what I'm getting at here. I'm in no way convinced that the East and South Asians who populate those classes will make better physicians than those bright white boys because the Asians were more maniacal grinders their whole lives.
    , @Anonymous
    We would do well to pay Guatalombians or anyone else of low IQ to get sterilized. And make living in America a pain in the ass for unbright immigrants.

    Go home, get fixed, or better yet both.
    , @J.Ross
    The Indians are not the ones who are going to be voting for socialismo.

    Absolute nonsense, they are the stock illustration of the skilled legal immigrant who hates the American idea but wants to make money here. They hate freedom of speech, they hate white people failing to lower their white heads, they hate lawful firearm ownership, and the history of socialism and of India means that loving money is not a counterindication regarding government expansion. Indians are one of the worst groups in terms of assimmilation and have a million times the political acumen and interest as East Asians: they will be aggressively entering our government and "making things better."
    , @Louis Renault

    there really is a difference between various immigrant groups.
     
    Which ones will not be eligible for Affirmative Action benefits for generations to come? What percentage of all immigrants do they make up?
    , @MBlanc46
    You sure must have different sorts of Indians where you’re from. Medicare fraud and vote Dem.
    , @Thomm
    You are, of course, correct.

    I said very similar things to you, and these morons actually think I am a South Asian* (except the half of the time they say I am Jewish), despite NOTHING about my 2000+ comments being anything close to what a South Asian might write (not a single South Asian commenters thinks I am South Asian). It is harder for me to prove I am not Jewish, but whatever.

    You might get branded the same.

    I then realized that for all the complaining that WNs do about blacks, if there is one thing they hate more than a poor, dysfunctional, violent minority, it is a high-income, well-behaved minority?

    Why?

    Because they are socialist moochers who want handouts from functional white people like you and I. As a wise man once said, "99% of White Trashionalism is the bottom decile of white men getting angry that the bottom decile of white women are now allowed to avoid them." Hence, a successful minority, whether Jews, Chinese, or South Asian, is too complicated for their 70-IQ minds to process.

    *To be fair, Ron Unz once claimed I was a South Asian just to troll the WNs (which is the primary purpose of this website after all). He of course tacitly admitted that he just said this to troll the WNs (RUnzie Baby and I are and always have been in cahoots), but they had already memorized the brainwashing, so now obsess over that.

    I would be more impressed if they at least had the creativity to call me a Nazgul, Olog-Hai, Klingon, Romulan, Cardassian, or Flying Purple People Eater. That would be no less inaccurate.

  38. @RichardTaylor
    Long ago there were a lot White people in India. All the amazing accomplishments we read about in ancient India. But over time, they mixed with the local population and turned into what they are now.

    You can still see Indians who look like Europeans but their numbers are small.

    The Indus Valley Civilization was a pre-Aryan civilization. They were much better than the Aryans at architecture and writing, and were the first in the world to use standardized measures, wheeled transport and weighing scales; but the Aryans brought with them their religion and their farming.

    You’re correct that most of the medical, surgical and mathematical advances made in India—cataract and bladder surgery, the use of zero as a number, the decimal and numeral system, modern arithmetic, modern trigonometry (sine and cosine),the invention of negative numbers, Brahmagupta’s theorem, the discovery that quadratic equations can have two solutions—were made after the Aryans migrated to India. But I doubt the people who made those advances would be considered “white” by you if they were living today.

    And today, the darker South Indians are, on average, smarter than the lighter North Indians. Tamil Brahmins are pretty dark, and are the most accomplished group in India.

    Fields Medal winner Manjul Bhargava — whose family come from a group that used to be part of the Vaisya caste but have recently been promoted to Brahmin status — looks like this:

    Akshay Venkatesh, another Fields Medal winner, looks like this:

    https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/4a78d33ad78390d7d80382a04e4d9571

    • Replies: @Just Passing Through
    The 'Aryans' who migrated to India most probably looked like Central Asians or lighter skinned Iranians. Much like the Black Egyptian hypothesis, Nordic invaders in India is quite ludicrous.
    , @82-IQ H1B Indian

    And today, the darker South Indians are, on average, smarter than the lighter North Indians. Tamil Brahmins are pretty dark, and are the most accomplished group in India.
     
    Edward,

    Please do not go by today and extrapolate it into past or future. North India bore the brunt of 1000 years of invasions. Only last 70 years are some what peaceful.

    After Independence it was felt that keeping scientific establishment/ defense research labs / nuclear facilities etc in north India will make them vulnerable to China/Pak attacks. Hence they were created in South/West. This helped South big time in creating Engineering base. When Information Technology took off, it already had that base to easily transition into IT.

    Right now north is still in take off stage. I personally think that they would easily overtake south in next 30 years. I say it as a South Indian.
  39. Anonymous[405] • Disclaimer says:

    Granted, he’s pathologically cinematic in a general way, but Trump’s transcendental cheesiness probably would play well in a land not known for its aversion to kitsch; he could fit right into a 70s Bollywood TV soap:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDnO9LoMems

    BTW guy here says Mayor Mike is one cool hombre once you get to know him
    https://www.unz.com/emargolis/fat-women-are-not-a-national-priority/

  40. Good news from China: they got the virus licked:

    “ But there was a measure of relief for the world’s second-largest economy as more than 20 province-level jurisdictions, including Beijing and Shanghai, reported zero new infections, the best showing since the outbreak began.”

    Not a single Chinese disagrees!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    As long as the number of reported infections is zero, low or decreasing in places like India, Indonesia etc. isn't it all that matters? ;)
  41. @Dave Pinsen
    Don’t be fooled by that ridiculous column that appeared on Unz. The virus is in Europe now. It’s probably in the US now too (incubation period is long).

    https://twitter.com/skynews/status/1231673489771376642?s=21

    *sigh*

    The three Italians that passed away were 80, 84, and 88.

    One had already been hospitalized for a heart attack. Another had, “…other pathologies…”

    https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ansa.it%2Fcanale_saluteebenessere%2Fnotizie%2Fsanita%2F2020%2F02%2F24%2Fcoronavirus-_60aae600-8535-44d9-86de-48c4b71478ef.html

    My larger point is that, for different reasons, neither Chinese nor Anglo sources can be relied upon.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna

    My larger point is that, for different reasons, neither Chinese nor Anglo sources can be relied upon.
     
    You are absolutely right, of course. In fact, they shouldn't be relied upon for much of anything.

    The Bangkok Post and Al-Jazeera had good reporting on Corona-Chan for several weeks now, but lately both have slipped and I'm somewhat bereft.

    , @Dave Pinsen
    You still sighing?
  42. @Jack D
    Not only that, but from places like Guatemala we get the poorest of the poor who will be burdens on our social welfare system unto the 7th generation whereas India tends to send us skilled workers who are net positive taxpayers. (In India, the poorest of the poor are too poor even to travel). I realize folks here don't like immigrants period but there really is a difference between various immigrant groups. The Indians are not the ones who are going to be voting for socialismo.

    That’s where you are wrong kiddo

    https://www.8asians.com/2013/02/05/aaldef-asian-american-vote-in-2012-varied-by-ethnic-group-and-geographic-location/

    Interestingly, despite Chinese and Indian being the richest ethnic group in America, they both skew heavily towards Dems.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

    I know a lot of Filipinos are Christian so that explains the relatively high level of support for the GOP amongst that cohort, but I am puzzled by the high level of support for Republicans amongst Vietnamese.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    ...but I am puzzled by the high level of support for Republicans amongst Vietnamese.
     
    We fought a war for them. The Dems started it, but they betrayed. The GOP hasn't apologized, and there is no reason why they should.

    Plus, the Vietnamese here, like the Cubans, are self-sufficient. Geopolitics had the Hmong voting GOP at first, but they were so poor, the Dems-- the DFL, as in Bruce Vento-- could easily buy their support, as did FDR with blacks fifty years earlier.
    , @Chris Renner

    I am puzzled by the high level of support for Republicans amongst Vietnamese
     
    They support Republicans for the same reason Cubans do: because Republicans were the consistently anti-Communist party during the Cold War. That said, the Republican loyalty for both groups is much less among their younger cohorts, who didn't necessarily live under Communism themselves or have a parent who did.
    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    "but I am puzzled by the high level of support for Republicans amongst Vietnamese."

    Seems kind of simple to me. I'd say that the Vietnamese diaspora in the US are, in terms of political-economic orientation, very much like the first wave post-Castro Cuban diaspora.
    , @indocon
    If Japanese-Americans were shown on this chart, I bet they would score higher than average Asian American, just like Vietnamese it's probably a residual effect of FDR interning all their grandparents. Even though Korean-Americans scored pretty low, they along with Vietnamese/ Filipino/Japanese are the 4 set of Asian American voters that Republicans need to focus like a laser on.
    , @SFG
    Vietnam War. A lot of Vietnamese-Americans had family members who fought on our side, and it was the GOP that wanted to win and Dems that wanted to quit.

    There are all these weird little anomalies, most explained by history--Russian Jews tend to vote Republican because they didn't like socialism in the USSR:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/bernie-sanders-trump-russians/477045/
    , @anon
    My wife is Vietnamese, came here in 1975. She loves Trump, can't stand Hillary, and wants closed borders.
    The Vietnamese I know are hard working, self-sufficient, and don't like free loaders or street bums. They are natural Republicans.
  43. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    I love you Donald Trump!!! Now give me visa please I leave this sh!thole come America at once, I program many computer for you get scholarship big American university marry many white girls I love you Donald Trump! please give me visa get me out of sh!thole NOW!!

    That seems to be one truism of Indian immigrants. They aren’t after the white girl. They will marry Indian girl, have two children – first a boy, then a girl – buy a Toyota, bring parents from India to visit every August.

    • Replies: @Anon
    It's more the other way around. White girls aren't into them. White girls want Tyrone Washington more than Venkat Punjabi.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    That seems to be one truism of Indian immigrants. They aren’t after the white girl. They will marry Indian girl...
     
    The first sister of a friend dated a white South American, from Colombia or Ecuador, whom she strung along then cruelly dumped. She also dated a guy from India off-and-on who did the same to her, to marry a cousin. I forget in which order this happened.

    She ended up with a well-off white nerd from the Bay Area whose parents bit their tongues and indulged her as she was their last chance for grandchildren. They had two girls in her mid'40s. Her big sister also married late and miscarried her only child. Little brother had three, but one was killed when the family's car got caught between two others in a road rage derby on the Interstate. Little little brother, who lost his father as a baby, has at least one child now, so that's five grandchildren from four children.

    At least that's an increase. The friend who introduced me to them was one of seven who had six, and her cousin was one of five who produced one of two, not counting an adoptee from a basket on a Chinese road. These two were the smartest families I've known, a tiebreaker who came home to the farm, and two scientists who married young.

    Dysgenesis in action. I swore I'd help make up the deficit. We're up to three.
    , @JUSA
    More like they'll marry an Indian spouse from back home, of the right caste, as arranged by the parents. And the parents are no longer just "visiting". All the builders in our area are building homes with finished basements, because the people now buying these homes - Indians and Chinese, are all bringing the parents over to live/babysit/collect social security.
  44. @Just Passing Through
    US is going to use India to balance of China in the military sphere, this visit is mostly about selling US weaponry. I believe the deal for dozens of MH-60 helicopters has already been inked.

    He should be selling them deodorant.

  45. @Jack D
    Not only that, but from places like Guatemala we get the poorest of the poor who will be burdens on our social welfare system unto the 7th generation whereas India tends to send us skilled workers who are net positive taxpayers. (In India, the poorest of the poor are too poor even to travel). I realize folks here don't like immigrants period but there really is a difference between various immigrant groups. The Indians are not the ones who are going to be voting for socialismo.

    Having worked in tech I can absolutely tell you the subcon H-1Bs are not terribly good at their jobs (haven’t met any non-subcon who’s worked in tech who disagrees with this observation FYI). All bringing them in does is saturate the market for middle class/white collar jobs just like importing millions of Central Americans did and continues to do to the working class/blue collar sector. And subcons overwhelmingly pull the lever for Dems, even though they tend to be high(er) earners. Trump trying to court their votes is in vain. You’re not necessarily going to get socialism with the Dems; more like a caste/castizo system with woke state/corporate-enforced rhetoric and some minimal trappings of socialism (some gibs for some lumpemproles, depending on how many intersectionality boxes they can check off). Subcons have rapidly mastered woke rhetoric and are clearly much more effective at leveraging it than, say, E. Asians. As they essentially wrote the book on caste systems, this is a very good fit for the subcons.

    Fun times ahead, indeed.

    • Replies: @snorlax

    Having worked in tech I can absolutely tell you the subcon H-1Bs are not terribly good at their jobs (haven’t met any non-subcon who’s worked in tech who disagrees with this observation FYI).
     
    I also work in tech and second this.
    , @Anon
    Anyone who's been in tech knows Subcons are the biggest chest thumping bullshit artists of the East. The ones who work for Indian outsourcing firms write spaghetti codes.

    Subcon female politicians are the most liberal socialistards, check out Kshama Sawant and Pramila Jayapal from Seattle, Saira Rao from CO.
  46. India has been suspiciously quiet about covid19.

    I’m guessing no test kits = no virus.

    Trump is in the most vulnerable demographic, and he is a germophobe, so this might get interesting.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=2dc3dnev9rY

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    He looks to be in great shape - ready to take on and kick Bernie's or Bloomfield's ass. :-)
  47. @Jack D
    Not only that, but from places like Guatemala we get the poorest of the poor who will be burdens on our social welfare system unto the 7th generation whereas India tends to send us skilled workers who are net positive taxpayers. (In India, the poorest of the poor are too poor even to travel). I realize folks here don't like immigrants period but there really is a difference between various immigrant groups. The Indians are not the ones who are going to be voting for socialismo.

    Indian immigrants to the US don’t vote left at a 95% proportion like Blacks, but they are voting for socialismo just as much as Guatemalans. If Sanders gets the nomination they’ll still give him 75% of their vote.
    They are supremely opportunistic people and see the advantage of casting their lot with the Anti-White Coalition of the Fringes. For now. By the time they realize that the Socialists will be parasiting off of their wealth, it will be too late and they will have no more say in public policy than a Republican voter in California.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Just Passing Through
    Both East Asians and Indians vote heavily for Democrat. It is puzzling because both groups are on average richer than Whites and don't qualify for affirmative action like Hispanics and Blacks. Indians after all come under the category of 'Asian' and in fact seem to do very well in SATs and whatnot.

    I doubt Dems would care about Asians and wouldn't hesitate taking away their wealth to redistribute to Blacks.
  48. @Jack D
    Not only that, but from places like Guatemala we get the poorest of the poor who will be burdens on our social welfare system unto the 7th generation whereas India tends to send us skilled workers who are net positive taxpayers. (In India, the poorest of the poor are too poor even to travel). I realize folks here don't like immigrants period but there really is a difference between various immigrant groups. The Indians are not the ones who are going to be voting for socialismo.

    Not only that, but from places like Guatemala we get the poorest of the poor who will be burdens on our social welfare system unto the 7th generation whereas India tends to send us skilled workers who are net positive taxpayers. (In India, the poorest of the poor are too poor even to travel). I realize folks here don’t like immigrants period but there really is a difference between various immigrant groups. The Indians are not the ones who are going to be voting for socialismo.

    Jack, I think you’re entirely missing the point.

    The purpose of the U.S. immigration system should be to further the interests of the American people generally defined.

    Simultaneously importing both Guatemalans and Indians is a pincers move against the native American population.

    The Guatemalans perform unskilled labor for rock bottom prices – I’m aware that many live in apartments with multiple adult men whether they’re landscaping, framing, drywalling or roofing. The wages are therefore kept so low that entire labor markets are consumed by foreigners. If one falls off a roof and goes SPLAT, you can just throw him in a wheel barrow and have Hector and Carlos dump him in the ER , do some of the “no hable” act, and run back into the truck to get back to work.

    You are correct that many young Indian immigrants don’t directly use welfare programs, but they’ve been known to heavily use the chain migration strategy to bring over non-prime age Indians to reside here and soak up various benefits.

    Indians of course use their broad family networks of support and resort to cram school tactics to propel their kids to success compared with native born Americans. I don’t think that this is a standard route to success that we want to impose upon American kids. It’s important to a lot of middle Americans that their kids – even the bright ones – develop not just academically but socially, morally, and athletically. A bright white boy shouldn’t have to eschew baseball pr friendships or chasing girls or reading for pleasure because he’s losing ground to the kids of Indian immigrants who are cramming in some miserable zero sum cut throat competition.

    If you’ve attended a Medical School graduation ceremony recently you’ll see what I’m getting at here. I’m in no way convinced that the East and South Asians who populate those classes will make better physicians than those bright white boys because the Asians were more maniacal grinders their whole lives.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    That’s what the WASPs said about Eastern and Southern Europeans. Italians, Poles, and Slavs were not part of this American interest. And we’ve been paying the price ever since, according to nativists’ calculus.
    , @ATBOTL
    Jack gets it, he wants to see white people replaced. He will tell lies like "Indians oppose socialism" to try to make whites apathetic about Indian migration. That's why he is here, to run interference and to inject neocon talking points into our conservation.
    , @AaronB

    A bright white boy shouldn’t have to eschew baseball pr friendships or chasing girls or reading for pleasure because he’s losing ground to the kids of Indian immigrants who are cramming in some miserable zero sum cut throat competition.
     
    Sure, but if America sealed its borders so that we can adopt a more relaxed and leisurely lifestyle, we would become less competitive globally against other countries.

    So competition is gonna happen one way or another. Either between groups within America or between a white America and other countries.

    Now I for one think it's a perfectly legitimate choice to accept being less wealthy and less competitive in order to have a better quality of life, but let's be clear that we're making that choice.

    So the choice seems to be - whites as a group within America can accept a lower standard of living relative to other groups within America in exchange for a more relaxed lifestyle, or America as a white country can accept a lower standard of living relative to other countries in exchange for a more relaxed lifestyle.

    The growing white preference for a relaxed lifestyle, which has been growing since early last century, is at least partly why the elite want to import more ambitious workers.
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    East Asians and Indians historically evolved under conditions of overpopulation, limited resources, and extreme competition. So both groups have been subject to a very severe type of Malthusian selection.

    If you read the history of China or India, it's remarkable how many people were killed off by famines. Industrious, frugal peasants toiled tirelessly just to be able to survive. If a peasant was prosperous enough, he might become a merchant. If the merchant was prosperous enough, his son would go to school to become an educated man. Then he'd advise the emperor.

    It seems like both regions were totally the opposite of Africa, the Middle East, and Latin America.

    That's why both East Asians and Indians strongly value family solidarity, high-pressure parenting, education, striving, and cunning. The Tiger Parent culture you see today is a product of enduring thousands of years of the Malthusian death struggle.

    If there was one important difference in evolutionary trajectory, it was that Indians evolved in a much more ethnically fragmented environment.

    So that seems to have selected for tribalism and verbosity/argumentativeness. In homogenous East Asia, there was much more selection for social conformity and nationalistic harmony....Also, in ethnically fragmented India, there was an enormous amount of variation among the various endogamous populations. Some were quite educated and skilled, others lived in destitution and were totally uneducated. In homogenous East Asia, there was a more standard distribution of different traits (like cognitive ability).

    Now you've got the "best and brightest" of East Asia and India coming to the U.S. They're bringing the whole high-pressure "cram school" culture with them, making it much more competitive to get into a good undergrad program or grad school.

    While the East Asians are perhaps somewhat limited by their lack of English fluency, the Indians have the verbosity, chutzpah, and command of English necessary to compete with Whites for top corporate jobs. Also, the Indians are much more into ethnic networking too, so they're importing hordes of their co-ethnics into IT/software.

    I don't want to diminish the competitiveness of East Asians. While they may not be capable of getting to the "C suite" in the U.S., they are very aggressive about acquiring American intellectual property and taking it back to their homelands. Then starting companies to out compete American companies. According to one source, China steals $400 in IP every year from the U.S. You can bet that Asian migrants are a conduit for that.

    All of this is absolutely lowering the standard of living for all of us.
  49. @Just Passing Through
    Coronavirus seems to be a mainly East Asian phenomenon.

    Also, the types of people who are on that photo will remain in India. Interestingly, South Asia is one of the regions where the desire to emigrate is quite low (8% would say they would would move permanently abroad if they had the opportunity, compared to 8% in East Asian and 33% in Sub-Saharan Africa and 27% in Latin America) obviously given the populations of these regions it still means tens of millions wanting to migrate (this question was hypothetical, in reality those who will actually manage to emigrate will be far lower)

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/245255/750-million-worldwide-migrate.aspx

    It has spread to Italy. Some habitual marathon runner/male socialite from Northern Italy was patient zero (I assume, don’t quote me) and possibly exposed up to 15,000 people to the virus.

    He is ill but not dead. A few ethnic Italians have died and their government is taking this pretty seriously…canceling football.

    It’s also in Iran now, because of some Chinese travelers to Qom.

    If Iranians and Europeans are now catching it and getting seriously ill that means the theories about this primarily being a bioweapon to target East Asians were wrong. It could still be a bio weapon but looks like everyone is susceptible.

    Not sure if this is true but I’ve heard it’s much worse on men than women, and that men have been the majority of the deaths in Wuhan. Possibly due to men having more ACE 2 molecules in their lungs, which act as early receptors for the virus to bind to.

    Willing to bet a lot of people in the U.S already have it, and it hasn’t manifested yet. There are lots of missionaries and NGO workers who recently returned home from China or Thailand. Doubt they are taking precautions to avoid spreading it here, and these are very social people who attend lots of events. Things are probably going to get crazy in some U.S cities, come May or so.

    The news of it spreading to Italy sucks because my husband and I were planning a trip through Switzerland and Northern Italy.

    • Replies: @El Dato

    If Iranians and Europeans are now catching it and getting seriously ill that means the theories about this primarily being a bioweapon to target East Asians were wrong. It could still be a bio weapon but looks like everyone is susceptible.
     
    This bioweapon stuff is bullshit.

    It's just a normal virus.

    If, whenever you fall downstairs, you get quoted on Twitter/Youtube/Unz/SomeOtherCrazyAssMeetingPlace about how the Deep State is wanting to kill you nefariously by installing remotely controlled staircases that make you stumble, you will be treated as a fucking asshole with mental problems and rightly so. Same here.

    We had the "it's a bioweapon" bullshit every single time since at least HIV entered the scene. Back then, the rumor mongering was cooked up by Soviets I hear.

    Also: Milanese emptying shelves

    https://twitter.com/media_maquina/status/1231716844429553665

    via

    https://www.rt.com/news/481542-milan-zombie-apocalypse-coronavirus/

    It begins!

  50. @Alfa158
    Indian immigrants to the US don’t vote left at a 95% proportion like Blacks, but they are voting for socialismo just as much as Guatemalans. If Sanders gets the nomination they’ll still give him 75% of their vote.
    They are supremely opportunistic people and see the advantage of casting their lot with the Anti-White Coalition of the Fringes. For now. By the time they realize that the Socialists will be parasiting off of their wealth, it will be too late and they will have no more say in public policy than a Republican voter in California.

    Both East Asians and Indians vote heavily for Democrat. It is puzzling because both groups are on average richer than Whites and don’t qualify for affirmative action like Hispanics and Blacks. Indians after all come under the category of ‘Asian’ and in fact seem to do very well in SATs and whatnot.

    I doubt Dems would care about Asians and wouldn’t hesitate taking away their wealth to redistribute to Blacks.

    • Replies: @Louis Renault
    Pramila Jayapal is going to tax her fellow Indian Americans to give money to Al Sharptons people?

    don’t qualify for affirmative action
     
    Really? Shadid Khan, of Pakistani descent qualifies but Indian American's don't? I think you need to look again at minority sourcing definitions under US law and then take a good look at the tax exemptions given to Indians who start businesses versus any American who does the same. Americans pay the tax, immigrants don't.
    , @82-IQ H1B Indian
    Indian Americans vote for Democrats because Democrats in the past made an effort to reach out. The logic until very recently is very simple. POC's vs Whites. Democrats usually show up during Hindu festivals or wear ethnic dress and at least pretend to care about browns.

    The same used to happen in UK where Indians & pakistanis both voted labour.

    But very recently Labour in UK & Democrats in US decided to throw Indian Americans under the bus and throw their lot with Islamists. In their hierarchy of importance POC's are now lower than Muslims. So Hindus & Sikhs voted Tories in recent parliamentary elections.

    Something similar is happening in US. I think Donald Trump will get more Indian American votes as a % compared to any other republican candidate in the past. He or his team knows it and they are reaching out to IA community.

    US politics are fiercely fought. When Democrats ignored the concerns of blue collar white working class in mid-west, Trump reached out to them and swung the election. Same thing is happening here. The only difference is that number of IA voters is insignificant compared to mid western blue collar white voters.
    , @Alfa158
    Both groups vote Democrat for a number of reasons.
    First, they are hoping against hope that using their influence in the Democratic Party they can eventually get affirmative action status despite their success, because they are non-White. Or at a minimum, not be actively discriminated against like Whites are.
    Second, they identify the Republican Party as the White Party, which it is even though Republicans refuse to acknowledge that and use it. Therefore the Republicans are just the other side.
    Third, the Dems are reliably open borders. Asians want to bring in their extended family members, and they want to staff the companies they found, or in which they have management positions with people of their own ethnicity.
    PSR in a comment above refers to the typical Asian family bringing their parents in to visit once a year. Much more commonly they use family reunification to get green cards for their aged parents. The law requires them to certify that the parents won’t be a public burden but of course, everyone ignores that. The parents take care of the grandkids and after five years become naturalized citizens. At that point they are eligible to apply for SSI on the basis that they have no income. They then collect a Social Security check from a system they never put a dime into. They live with their kids, continue to take care of the grandkids, and their SS payments go into the family kitty. In California you see huge numbers of totttering old folks with not a word of English, wearing native dress. If you see them at the airport, most of them are clutching US passports.
    , @Mr McKenna


    13 CFR (Code of Federal Regulations)
    § 124.103 Who is socially disadvantaged?

    (a) General. Socially disadvantaged individuals are those who have been subjected to racial or ethnic prejudice or cultural bias within American society because of their identities as members of groups and without regard to their individual qualities. The social disadvantage must stem from circumstances beyond their control.

    (b) Members of designated groups.

    (1) There is a rebuttable presumption that the following individuals are socially disadvantaged: Black Americans; Hispanic Americans; Native Americans (Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians, or enrolled members of a Federally or State recognized Indian Tribe); Asian Pacific Americans (persons with origins from Burma, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Brunei, Japan, China (including Hong Kong), Taiwan, Laos, Cambodia (Kampuchea), Vietnam, Korea, The Philippines, U.S. Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands (Republic of Palau), Republic of the Marshall Islands, Federated States of Micronesia, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, Guam, Samoa, Macao, Fiji, Tonga, Kiribati, Tuvalu, or Nauru); Subcontinent Asian Americans (persons with origins from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, the Maldives Islands or Nepal); and members of other groups designated from time to time by SBA according to procedures set forth at paragraph (d) of this section.
     

  51. @Jack D
    Not only that, but from places like Guatemala we get the poorest of the poor who will be burdens on our social welfare system unto the 7th generation whereas India tends to send us skilled workers who are net positive taxpayers. (In India, the poorest of the poor are too poor even to travel). I realize folks here don't like immigrants period but there really is a difference between various immigrant groups. The Indians are not the ones who are going to be voting for socialismo.

    We would do well to pay Guatalombians or anyone else of low IQ to get sterilized. And make living in America a pain in the ass for unbright immigrants.

    Go home, get fixed, or better yet both.

  52. @RichardTaylor
    Long ago there were a lot White people in India. All the amazing accomplishments we read about in ancient India. But over time, they mixed with the local population and turned into what they are now.

    You can still see Indians who look like Europeans but their numbers are small.

    Actually you have it completely reversed, India may be a rare exception where the arrival of all those Yamayas led to the creation of a divided casteist society that has been in the dumps ever since ~2500 years ago when they showed up. The DNA information clearly shows that the people who build Indus valley civilization, which by the way was the greatest civilization ever for its times, had no relationship to Yamayas. This is HBD 101.

    What’s interesting is that the right wing upper cast Hindu party that is in power today is trying to expropriate the Indus Valley civilization all for themselves. They keep saying that there was no Aryan invasion and we are all the same, even though they and their relatives set a top off this crappy pyramid.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    There is no genetic evidence for a "Yamaya" link to Indians or IVC. The Indo-European DNA in Indians comes from haplogroup R1a (Yamnaya were all a weird clade of R1b that isn't common in Europe today). They also speak Satem languges, while Yamnaya spoke Centum. Clearly, it was a different kind of Indo European that invaded India.
  53. I know of an Indian who got married to a US citizen, but to keep their child from becoming American, sent the kid to an “International” school.

    That’s the people we’re getting.

    Or as Rush Limbaugh said: ‘When you import people from the Third world, you’re going to get Third world people.’

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I know of an Indian who got married to a US citizen, but to keep their child from becoming American, sent the kid to an “International” school.
     
    A Somali family in Minneapolis sent their teenager to the old country for schooling to keep him from being corrupted by American ways.

    Too late. He was promptly murdered. According to my Somali co-worker's hypothesis, his "crime" was probably just mouthing off to the teacher.
  54. anon[225] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai
    Never underestimate the hatred for Muslims among Modi's fans. They see, like many Nigerian Christians, the image of Trump as president of the United States as anti-Muslim as a big positive. Even if both groups see immigration to the West as their just right.

    Indeed, would Modi have done his quasi annexation of Indian-admin Kashmir if Hilary was president? Maybe, maybe not.

    That is the $20 bill a politician can pick up and run to victory. Trump was smart in that (after picking up the $100 “Mexicans are rapists, criminals …” bill) while the others were looking away. He boosted his popularity after announcing the Muslim ban.

    The phrase guaranteed to cause stampede anywhere, anytime: “Allah Hu Akbar”

  55. @Jack D
    Not only that, but from places like Guatemala we get the poorest of the poor who will be burdens on our social welfare system unto the 7th generation whereas India tends to send us skilled workers who are net positive taxpayers. (In India, the poorest of the poor are too poor even to travel). I realize folks here don't like immigrants period but there really is a difference between various immigrant groups. The Indians are not the ones who are going to be voting for socialismo.

    The Indians are not the ones who are going to be voting for socialismo.

    Absolute nonsense, they are the stock illustration of the skilled legal immigrant who hates the American idea but wants to make money here. They hate freedom of speech, they hate white people failing to lower their white heads, they hate lawful firearm ownership, and the history of socialism and of India means that loving money is not a counterindication regarding government expansion. Indians are one of the worst groups in terms of assimmilation and have a million times the political acumen and interest as East Asians: they will be aggressively entering our government and “making things better.”

  56. @Edward
    Shashi Tharoor wrote a good piece on coronavirus and India, recently:

    The three cases in India, all involving medical students from Wuhan who are now home in the state of Kerala, are all in stable condition and are being closely monitored, two in hospital isolation and one at home. India successfully evacuated 324 students from Wuhan who are now in quarantine in a detention facility in Manesar, less than two hours from the nation’s capital, where none has so far tested positive for the virus. Some 4,000 people are reported to be under observation at isolation wards across the country, but the number of confirmed cases has remained at three for over a week...

    The government has sprung into action and instituted health measures at airports and ports, including entry screening, travel advisories and signages at major ports of entry, with checks of any travellers showing signs of cold or fever. But infected persons could still slip through in the asymptomatic but infectious phase of the illness...

    State governments are stepping up preparedness measures. But there are worries about how well India is equipped to conduct disease surveillance, to deploy adequate laboratory testing capacity, to elevate hospital preparedness including infection prevention and control, and to communicate effectively to the public...

    not every state is like Kerala, and an outbreak almost anywhere else in the country is unlikely to be countered by an agile response system, adequate primary health care facilities to conduct the needed clinical assessments, sufficient lab capacity or effective isolation practices.
     
    https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/article/3050988/india-coronavirus-catastrophe-waiting-happen

    A lot of people say that xi jinping has lost the mandate of heaven:

    https://quillette.com/2020/02/22/losing-the-mandate-of-heaven/

    Because of all the disasters that have hit China since he took power

  57. @Just Passing Through
    That's where you are wrong kiddo

    https://www.8asians.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/AALDEF_2012_AA_voting_by_enthnicity.png

    https://www.8asians.com/2013/02/05/aaldef-asian-american-vote-in-2012-varied-by-ethnic-group-and-geographic-location/

    Interestingly, despite Chinese and Indian being the richest ethnic group in America, they both skew heavily towards Dems.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income


    I know a lot of Filipinos are Christian so that explains the relatively high level of support for the GOP amongst that cohort, but I am puzzled by the high level of support for Republicans amongst Vietnamese.

    …but I am puzzled by the high level of support for Republicans amongst Vietnamese.

    We fought a war for them. The Dems started it, but they betrayed. The GOP hasn’t apologized, and there is no reason why they should.

    Plus, the Vietnamese here, like the Cubans, are self-sufficient. Geopolitics had the Hmong voting GOP at first, but they were so poor, the Dems– the DFL, as in Bruce Vento– could easily buy their support, as did FDR with blacks fifty years earlier.

    • Agree: donut
    • Replies: @donut
    When I lived in Louisiana in the 80's there was some resentment towards the Vietnamese immigrants because of the way they became more prosperous than the natives . They were more self-sufficient as you say but it was more than that . As I understood it at the time while the Americans were in hock to the bank for their homes and fishing boats , the Viets would band together and pool their money to purchase homes and fishing boats . So one person would take out a mortgage to buy a house and 20 people would move in and put all their money towards paying off the loan . They would pay off the loan quickly and move on to the next person . Also IIRC they would pool their money and cut out the bank altogether , they did the same with their fishing boats which was an industry they concentrated in . This was in the 80's and the oil patch was going through tough times . The word was that the Japanese at that time whose economy was doing well were buying up whole neighborhoods of foreclosures in Houston . Of course this was just what I observed and heard . I lived there at the time but worked on deep waterships and so wasn't dependent on the local economy . I remember thinking that instead of resenting the Vietnamese immigrants the locals should follow their example . I suppose if they had done that the financial industry would have quickly moved to have regulations passed into law to stop that practice for the protection of the public .
    , @Bubba

    Geopolitics had the Hmong voting GOP at first, but they were so poor, the Dems– the DFL, as in Bruce Vento– could easily buy their support, as did FDR with blacks fifty years earlier.
     
    Got that right. It was fait accompli for FDR to get their votes after Hoover reneged on his promises following the 1927 Mississippi River floods.

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/after-the-deluge-111555373/
  58. @Just Passing Through
    That's where you are wrong kiddo

    https://www.8asians.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/AALDEF_2012_AA_voting_by_enthnicity.png

    https://www.8asians.com/2013/02/05/aaldef-asian-american-vote-in-2012-varied-by-ethnic-group-and-geographic-location/

    Interestingly, despite Chinese and Indian being the richest ethnic group in America, they both skew heavily towards Dems.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income


    I know a lot of Filipinos are Christian so that explains the relatively high level of support for the GOP amongst that cohort, but I am puzzled by the high level of support for Republicans amongst Vietnamese.

    I am puzzled by the high level of support for Republicans amongst Vietnamese

    They support Republicans for the same reason Cubans do: because Republicans were the consistently anti-Communist party during the Cold War. That said, the Republican loyalty for both groups is much less among their younger cohorts, who didn’t necessarily live under Communism themselves or have a parent who did.

    • Replies: @indocon
    Absolutely true on that difference in republican support between older and younger Vietnamese, that is precisely the reason why place like orange county stayed read up until now but finally flipped blue in the last election cycle as younger Vietnamese finally started voting.
  59. @Buzz Mohawk
    Trump is trying to play India against China, but the two are not comparable. The subcontinental menagerie of low average IQ will not help offset the East Asian power team.

    Meanwhile, he hasn't done f*ck all about reducing H-1B flooding from either place, and his chief of staff says we "desperately" need more immigrants to boost our "economy." As always, the economy "trumps" the Citizens.

    Corona-chan is another one of those things we all are supposed to care about that actually don't cause too many problems for normal White people. Set it aside with lactose intolerance, AIDS, SARS, and frankly most flu viruses. The problem is, our controlled media do not speak about the racial aspects of any of these things.

    “Trump is trying to play India against China, but the two are not comparable. “

    Agreed. I guess he tries to find allies where he can.

    “Meanwhile, he hasn’t done f*ck all about reducing H-1B flooding”

    Also agreed.

    People sometimes comment on the few small indications that Jewish people are pivoting towards China as global power structures change. I’d not realised, but the Jewish Autonomous Oblast, established in 1928 as a way of populating the Russian Far East with anti-White Russian (in the political sense) people, actually shares a border with China along the Amur River, and will soon be linked with China by a new rail bridge.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

    Admittedly the climate’s not the best, and most of the Jews left after the Soviet Union collapsed, but Jewish pioneers did pretty well in Palestine. I see a future Special Economic Zone on the Chinese side, and maybe more Jewish cross-country skiers.

  60. @Just Passing Through
    That's where you are wrong kiddo

    https://www.8asians.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/AALDEF_2012_AA_voting_by_enthnicity.png

    https://www.8asians.com/2013/02/05/aaldef-asian-american-vote-in-2012-varied-by-ethnic-group-and-geographic-location/

    Interestingly, despite Chinese and Indian being the richest ethnic group in America, they both skew heavily towards Dems.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income


    I know a lot of Filipinos are Christian so that explains the relatively high level of support for the GOP amongst that cohort, but I am puzzled by the high level of support for Republicans amongst Vietnamese.

    “but I am puzzled by the high level of support for Republicans amongst Vietnamese.”

    Seems kind of simple to me. I’d say that the Vietnamese diaspora in the US are, in terms of political-economic orientation, very much like the first wave post-Castro Cuban diaspora.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Sure, that makes sense. Ive heard the same said about venezuelans lately though less convinced.

    Id guess the average vietnamese is not particularly cognizant of the democratic party donors of the modern era close links to european communism.

    They also are not in the camp of simply lobbying for their coethnics to gain entry to the US as the sole focus of their political activism as with Indians.
  61. @Buzz Mohawk
    Trump is trying to play India against China, but the two are not comparable. The subcontinental menagerie of low average IQ will not help offset the East Asian power team.

    Meanwhile, he hasn't done f*ck all about reducing H-1B flooding from either place, and his chief of staff says we "desperately" need more immigrants to boost our "economy." As always, the economy "trumps" the Citizens.

    Corona-chan is another one of those things we all are supposed to care about that actually don't cause too many problems for normal White people. Set it aside with lactose intolerance, AIDS, SARS, and frankly most flu viruses. The problem is, our controlled media do not speak about the racial aspects of any of these things.

    his chief of staff says we “desperately” need more immigrants to boost our “economy.

    Of course he does. Have you seen what our woke universities have been turning out for the past 20 years?

  62. @Just Passing Through
    I don't know where you read this stuff, but the only 'White' people who invaded India were the British, and even that wasn't a proper invasion.

    The 'Aryans' who came into India looked more like light-skinned Iranians than 'White' (the latter of which conjured up images of Northern Europeans in most people's minds.

    There is not a single Indian that looks European, as they are Caucasians, they will have European facial features, but they will not be European looking.

    The Taj Mahal was built in 1653 by Persian architects, Persians allegedly gave an IQ of 84 which puts them a tad above Indians who are alleged to have an IQ of 82.

    The ancient 'Aryans' who migrated into India didn't look like the Aryans most White people imagine when they hear the term (blue-eyes and blond(e) hair)

    Whites have a long list of achievements, I don't get why some people have to start doing this 'We wuz Hindoos n shieet' gig.

    Don’t forget the Scythians.

  63. @indocon
    Actually you have it completely reversed, India may be a rare exception where the arrival of all those Yamayas led to the creation of a divided casteist society that has been in the dumps ever since ~2500 years ago when they showed up. The DNA information clearly shows that the people who build Indus valley civilization, which by the way was the greatest civilization ever for its times, had no relationship to Yamayas. This is HBD 101.

    What's interesting is that the right wing upper cast Hindu party that is in power today is trying to expropriate the Indus Valley civilization all for themselves. They keep saying that there was no Aryan invasion and we are all the same, even though they and their relatives set a top off this crappy pyramid.

    There is no genetic evidence for a “Yamaya” link to Indians or IVC. The Indo-European DNA in Indians comes from haplogroup R1a (Yamnaya were all a weird clade of R1b that isn’t common in Europe today). They also speak Satem languges, while Yamnaya spoke Centum. Clearly, it was a different kind of Indo European that invaded India.

    • Replies: @indocon
    Thanks for the clarification, that's why I devote all my media time to this website.
  64. @El Dato
    Isn't that a statue of Mike Pence?

    In the land of millions of Gods there is place of a Lord Bhagwan Trump as well as a Lord Bhagwan Pence.

  65. @Jack D
    Not only that, but from places like Guatemala we get the poorest of the poor who will be burdens on our social welfare system unto the 7th generation whereas India tends to send us skilled workers who are net positive taxpayers. (In India, the poorest of the poor are too poor even to travel). I realize folks here don't like immigrants period but there really is a difference between various immigrant groups. The Indians are not the ones who are going to be voting for socialismo.

    there really is a difference between various immigrant groups.

    Which ones will not be eligible for Affirmative Action benefits for generations to come? What percentage of all immigrants do they make up?

  66. @Just Passing Through
    I don't know where you read this stuff, but the only 'White' people who invaded India were the British, and even that wasn't a proper invasion.

    The 'Aryans' who came into India looked more like light-skinned Iranians than 'White' (the latter of which conjured up images of Northern Europeans in most people's minds.

    There is not a single Indian that looks European, as they are Caucasians, they will have European facial features, but they will not be European looking.

    The Taj Mahal was built in 1653 by Persian architects, Persians allegedly gave an IQ of 84 which puts them a tad above Indians who are alleged to have an IQ of 82.

    The ancient 'Aryans' who migrated into India didn't look like the Aryans most White people imagine when they hear the term (blue-eyes and blond(e) hair)

    Whites have a long list of achievements, I don't get why some people have to start doing this 'We wuz Hindoos n shieet' gig.

    Bullshit. India was invaded by the Indo-Scythians, Andronovo-descended people, Yuezhi, etc. These people were light haired and light eyed.

    Pic related, it’s a Yuezhi bust from Khalchayan:

    Scythian mummy from Zanjan, Iran:

    Blond Scythian mummy from central Mongolia:

    https://www.spiegel.de/international/archeological-sensation-ancient-mummy-found-in-mongolia-a-433600.html

    The mummy is unbelievably valuable to science,” Hermann Parzinger, president of the German Archeological Institute (DAI), said on Thursday in Berlin. He described the mummy recently discovered in Mongolia as a “one of a kind find” that could increase our knowledge about the nutrition and health of early man.

    The mummy, which is believed to be about 2,500 years old was a 30-to-40 year-old man with blond hair, and was found in very good condition, Patzinger said

    Iranians (Persians) are BMAC-rich Meds. The nomadic Indo-Iranians and the central Asian sedentary Indo-Europeans like the Yuezhi contained a Nordic racial element, however, with others being mixed with Dravidoid or Mongoloid.

    • Replies: @Just Passing Through
    That particular group migrated to the subcontinent around the year 200 to 400. Long after the time period known as 'ancient India' had passed. And long after the Aryan invasion.
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    So to the point, they’re mutts and not pure Caucasian. Admixture, but not majority white.
  67. @PSR
    That seems to be one truism of Indian immigrants. They aren't after the white girl. They will marry Indian girl, have two children - first a boy, then a girl - buy a Toyota, bring parents from India to visit every August.

    It’s more the other way around. White girls aren’t into them. White girls want Tyrone Washington more than Venkat Punjabi.

  68. @Just Passing Through
    Both East Asians and Indians vote heavily for Democrat. It is puzzling because both groups are on average richer than Whites and don't qualify for affirmative action like Hispanics and Blacks. Indians after all come under the category of 'Asian' and in fact seem to do very well in SATs and whatnot.

    I doubt Dems would care about Asians and wouldn't hesitate taking away their wealth to redistribute to Blacks.

    Pramila Jayapal is going to tax her fellow Indian Americans to give money to Al Sharptons people?

    don’t qualify for affirmative action

    Really? Shadid Khan, of Pakistani descent qualifies but Indian American’s don’t? I think you need to look again at minority sourcing definitions under US law and then take a good look at the tax exemptions given to Indians who start businesses versus any American who does the same. Americans pay the tax, immigrants don’t.

  69. anonymous[198] • Disclaimer says:

    A major component of US strategy over the long term in Asia is to count on India as an ally. There is a common belief in foreign policy circles that India will overtake China in growth and have an economy that is around the size of China’s economy in 2050. Naturally then India will engage in fierce competition with China because that is what tends to happen when two giants are face to face with each other. However, as of 2019, India has a per capita nominal that is 1/5 of China. India: $2,171 China: $10,098

    If HBD is any guide, this gap will grow even further apart in China’s favor in the coming years. There is perhaps no assumption in US foreign policy so in need of an HBD update than this one.

  70. @Hapalong Cassidy
    Yes, but the whiter Indians are concentrated in the North, which generally is poorer and more run down than the South. For instance the people of Uttar Pradesh are much paler on average than the people of Tamil Nadu and Kerala, but the latter two states are among the most advanced in India while Uttar Pradesh is among the poorest.

    You get Caucasoid looking South Indians too especially amongst the elite castes. Like

    Pusapati Ashok Gajapathi Raju, Indian politician and the former Union Minister for Civil Aviation of India. A scion of Royal family of Vizayanagram princely state, he is the younger son of the last Maharaja (King) of Vizianagram IN SOUTH INDIA. The Pusapatis are the descendants of Pericchedis, the ancient ruling clan of Andhra Pradesh, SOUTH INDIA. Paricchedis were staunch patrons of Hindu Dharma in contrast to the Chalukyas, who initially were patrons of Jainism.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Even the whitest of Indians still seem to identify very much as brown people and would probably take offence at being called white, sames goes for white Latin Americans.

    Just goes to show that racial identity is more about culture than it is about genetics.
    , @BB753
    I had the impression that most royals in India descended from Persians, Moghuls or Pathans.
  71. @Just Passing Through
    I don't know where you read this stuff, but the only 'White' people who invaded India were the British, and even that wasn't a proper invasion.

    The 'Aryans' who came into India looked more like light-skinned Iranians than 'White' (the latter of which conjured up images of Northern Europeans in most people's minds.

    There is not a single Indian that looks European, as they are Caucasians, they will have European facial features, but they will not be European looking.

    The Taj Mahal was built in 1653 by Persian architects, Persians allegedly gave an IQ of 84 which puts them a tad above Indians who are alleged to have an IQ of 82.

    The ancient 'Aryans' who migrated into India didn't look like the Aryans most White people imagine when they hear the term (blue-eyes and blond(e) hair)

    Whites have a long list of achievements, I don't get why some people have to start doing this 'We wuz Hindoos n shieet' gig.

    “there is not a single Indian that looks European”

    Not in India, agreed. Maybe on the Pakistani/Afghan border, or among the Kalashas.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    Apparently, there are 5,000 of them in northern Pakistan. They're the descendants of Alexander the Great's soldiers. They're like a lost tribe.
    , @RichardTaylor
    I mean, this looks pretty European to me. Beautiful woman:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/science/indians-europeans-share-light-skin-genetic-coding-8C11566211

    https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/streams/2013/November/131108/8C9639760-131108-bollywood-skin-jsw-254p.fit-2000w.jpg
    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    The Pashtun are the most European-looking of the three main tribes of Afghanistan. The Tajiks are more Persian-looking while the Hazaris are related to the Mongol invaders and appear as such. The Pashtun are also probably the most degenerate and inbred of the three, which goes to my original point, which is that you can’t always use the light-dark paradigm to rank ethnic groups by measures of intelligence, success, etc...
  72. @Edward
    The Indus Valley Civilization was a pre-Aryan civilization. They were much better than the Aryans at architecture and writing, and were the first in the world to use standardized measures, wheeled transport and weighing scales; but the Aryans brought with them their religion and their farming.

    You’re correct that most of the medical, surgical and mathematical advances made in India—cataract and bladder surgery, the use of zero as a number, the decimal and numeral system, modern arithmetic, modern trigonometry (sine and cosine),the invention of negative numbers, Brahmagupta’s theorem, the discovery that quadratic equations can have two solutions—were made after the Aryans migrated to India. But I doubt the people who made those advances would be considered “white” by you if they were living today.

    And today, the darker South Indians are, on average, smarter than the lighter North Indians. Tamil Brahmins are pretty dark, and are the most accomplished group in India.

    Fields Medal winner Manjul Bhargava — whose family come from a group that used to be part of the Vaisya caste but have recently been promoted to Brahmin status — looks like this:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Manjul_Bhargava_FieldsMedal.jpg/220px-Manjul_Bhargava_FieldsMedal.jpg

    Akshay Venkatesh, another Fields Medal winner, looks like this:

    https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/4a78d33ad78390d7d80382a04e4d9571

    The ‘Aryans’ who migrated to India most probably looked like Central Asians or lighter skinned Iranians. Much like the Black Egyptian hypothesis, Nordic invaders in India is quite ludicrous.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    Cope. See my other post in this thread. They were Nordic people. Andronovo and Sintashta cultures descended from Corded Ware, an eastward migration from Northern Europe to central, south and East Asia.
  73. @bob sykes
    Russia, once a semi-ally of India, has moved closer to China, and that must also be a factor. India needs a new balance point against China, too.

    Russia was more than Sony a semi-ally and is still one of India’s biggest allies. Russia seems to be managing it’s relationship with China and India quite well, I personally think the Chinese are quite dependent on Russian weapons systems which is why they are not kicking up a fuss, you will notice that most Chinese weapons are just Russian licensed copies.

    For example, a country has to be a little more than simple a ‘semi-ally’ to be leasing nuclear attack submarines, as Russia has done to India.

    https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia-pacific/2019/03/08/india-signs-3-billion-contract-with-russia-for-lease-of-a-nuclear-submarine/

  74. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Not only that, but from places like Guatemala we get the poorest of the poor who will be burdens on our social welfare system unto the 7th generation whereas India tends to send us skilled workers who are net positive taxpayers. (In India, the poorest of the poor are too poor even to travel). I realize folks here don’t like immigrants period but there really is a difference between various immigrant groups. The Indians are not the ones who are going to be voting for socialismo.
     
    Jack, I think you're entirely missing the point.

    The purpose of the U.S. immigration system should be to further the interests of the American people generally defined.

    Simultaneously importing both Guatemalans and Indians is a pincers move against the native American population.

    The Guatemalans perform unskilled labor for rock bottom prices - I'm aware that many live in apartments with multiple adult men whether they're landscaping, framing, drywalling or roofing. The wages are therefore kept so low that entire labor markets are consumed by foreigners. If one falls off a roof and goes SPLAT, you can just throw him in a wheel barrow and have Hector and Carlos dump him in the ER , do some of the "no hable" act, and run back into the truck to get back to work.

    You are correct that many young Indian immigrants don't directly use welfare programs, but they've been known to heavily use the chain migration strategy to bring over non-prime age Indians to reside here and soak up various benefits.

    Indians of course use their broad family networks of support and resort to cram school tactics to propel their kids to success compared with native born Americans. I don't think that this is a standard route to success that we want to impose upon American kids. It's important to a lot of middle Americans that their kids - even the bright ones - develop not just academically but socially, morally, and athletically. A bright white boy shouldn't have to eschew baseball pr friendships or chasing girls or reading for pleasure because he's losing ground to the kids of Indian immigrants who are cramming in some miserable zero sum cut throat competition.

    If you've attended a Medical School graduation ceremony recently you'll see what I'm getting at here. I'm in no way convinced that the East and South Asians who populate those classes will make better physicians than those bright white boys because the Asians were more maniacal grinders their whole lives.

    That’s what the WASPs said about Eastern and Southern Europeans. Italians, Poles, and Slavs were not part of this American interest. And we’ve been paying the price ever since, according to nativists’ calculus.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    That’s what the WASPs said about Eastern and Southern Europeans. Italians, Poles, and Slavs were not part of this American interest. And we’ve been paying the price ever since, according to nativists’ calculus.
     
    Yes, of course. European immigrants who came during the era of rapid Industrialization and Urbanization are exactly the same phenomenon as immigrants today.

    And as we all know, the children of Poles, Italians and Slavs immediately became Doctors, Lawyers and Indian Chiefs and lorded their social position over their native neighbors.
  75. @Buzz Mohawk
    Trump is trying to play India against China, but the two are not comparable. The subcontinental menagerie of low average IQ will not help offset the East Asian power team.

    Meanwhile, he hasn't done f*ck all about reducing H-1B flooding from either place, and his chief of staff says we "desperately" need more immigrants to boost our "economy." As always, the economy "trumps" the Citizens.

    Corona-chan is another one of those things we all are supposed to care about that actually don't cause too many problems for normal White people. Set it aside with lactose intolerance, AIDS, SARS, and frankly most flu viruses. The problem is, our controlled media do not speak about the racial aspects of any of these things.

    It’s possible that Coronavirus is an East Asian thing that won’t affect anyone else too badly, but it will take a while to know for sure, and it wouldn’t be wise at this point to just assume that this is going to be true.

  76. @Dave Pinsen
    Don’t be fooled by that ridiculous column that appeared on Unz. The virus is in Europe now. It’s probably in the US now too (incubation period is long).

    https://twitter.com/skynews/status/1231673489771376642?s=21

    6 Italians, Italians, not Asians living in Italy died of the virus in the last few days. All were over 75, one was 88.

    • Replies: @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    So are Europe's demographics going to go from 90% white to 70% white in a single year thanks to this virus?

    My fellow UNZ commenters: I know a lot of you are long in the tooth. Please make plans to have a few months' worth of food supply and all other necessities/medications you may need and to barricade yourself at home for a while if this thing goes crazy where you're living (which it most likely will within the next few months). Unless you have a full hazmat suit and decontamination facility, a face mask won't do much in the long-term. Isolation is the only way to ensure you are not infected.

  77. @UK
    The anti-colonialist west, and some on the dissident right, fail to understand just how unpopular Muslims have made Islam in much of the world. Even among Muslims themselves.

    America is many times more admired than any Muslim majority country. Only people trying to signal their own intellect by going against the obvious don't join in on that.

    Some people may want to use emotional blackmail to get free stuff or immigration to the US, but only the deluded few on places like Unz actually think the US is a less positive part of the world than any Islamic area.

    Trump is unapologetic and so the emotional blackmailers don't show up, while the secure and honest abroad allow their admiration to become obvious.

    This is also one of the reasons why support for Israel is generally high. Most people on Unz most likely dislike Jews because of the activities of their elite in Western nations, as such they want to hit back and destroy Israel’s national fabric by using low-IQ Palestinians as pawns.

    However for those who are uninitiated in the JQ, this sounds puzzling and they (quite rightly) cannot bring themseleves to sympathise with Palestinians, after witnessing Muslim behaviour in the Western world.

    So even when some IDF sniper shoots a kid in the face, most Westerners just shrug and say ‘he shouldn’t have been there throwing stones’, the Israel-Palestine conflict allows Westerners to enjoy their fanatasies of violence against Muslims being played out in real life, albeit in a completely different part of the world.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    So even when some IDF sniper shoots a kid in the face, most Westerners just shrug and say ‘he shouldn’t have been there throwing stones’, the Israel-Palestine conflict allows Westerners to enjoy their fanatasies of violence against Muslims being played out in real life, albeit in a completely different part of the world.
     
    Something wrong with the Pals that they allow, even encourage, kids to throw stones when they know their foe will blow them away for it. The rule should be that you do not even look askance at the king, much less swing on him, unless you are pretty sure you can kill him dead. Regicide is a capital crime of course, but in this case so is rock throwing, and better hanged for a sheep as a lamb.

    If the Pals cacked a Burger King or two, their writ would have weight. As it is they're an annoyance, an errant puppy which craps on the sofa when he feels ignored.

    The puppy is kicked outside when it happens, but once in a while someone has had enough and that puppy gets an early trip across Rainbow Bridge and another mutt is brought in. That upsets some, to be sure, but in the long run if the owner is reasonably discreet (shoot, shovel and shut up) nothing is going to happen. I mean, it's just a dog.

    Say what you will about a honey badger, he is not so easily dismissed, or dispatched.
  78. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Not only that, but from places like Guatemala we get the poorest of the poor who will be burdens on our social welfare system unto the 7th generation whereas India tends to send us skilled workers who are net positive taxpayers. (In India, the poorest of the poor are too poor even to travel). I realize folks here don’t like immigrants period but there really is a difference between various immigrant groups. The Indians are not the ones who are going to be voting for socialismo.
     
    Jack, I think you're entirely missing the point.

    The purpose of the U.S. immigration system should be to further the interests of the American people generally defined.

    Simultaneously importing both Guatemalans and Indians is a pincers move against the native American population.

    The Guatemalans perform unskilled labor for rock bottom prices - I'm aware that many live in apartments with multiple adult men whether they're landscaping, framing, drywalling or roofing. The wages are therefore kept so low that entire labor markets are consumed by foreigners. If one falls off a roof and goes SPLAT, you can just throw him in a wheel barrow and have Hector and Carlos dump him in the ER , do some of the "no hable" act, and run back into the truck to get back to work.

    You are correct that many young Indian immigrants don't directly use welfare programs, but they've been known to heavily use the chain migration strategy to bring over non-prime age Indians to reside here and soak up various benefits.

    Indians of course use their broad family networks of support and resort to cram school tactics to propel their kids to success compared with native born Americans. I don't think that this is a standard route to success that we want to impose upon American kids. It's important to a lot of middle Americans that their kids - even the bright ones - develop not just academically but socially, morally, and athletically. A bright white boy shouldn't have to eschew baseball pr friendships or chasing girls or reading for pleasure because he's losing ground to the kids of Indian immigrants who are cramming in some miserable zero sum cut throat competition.

    If you've attended a Medical School graduation ceremony recently you'll see what I'm getting at here. I'm in no way convinced that the East and South Asians who populate those classes will make better physicians than those bright white boys because the Asians were more maniacal grinders their whole lives.

    Jack gets it, he wants to see white people replaced. He will tell lies like “Indians oppose socialism” to try to make whites apathetic about Indian migration. That’s why he is here, to run interference and to inject neocon talking points into our conservation.

    • Replies: @moshe
    Indeed.

    Jack gets paid high dollar to "run interference" among the movers and shakers who might otherwise be informed by your Brave Truths.

    Which is why White Patriots have hired me to remind you gentle readers what a nusaince Jews can be.

    It's less intellectually hardy than the efforts of my uncle Jack but, I believe, more effective.
  79. @Just Passing Through
    Coronavirus should be deadly in India given the congestion and close proximity of people, yet no deaths have been reported, puzzlingly there have allegedly been 12 deaths in Iran and I don't think there are many Chinese in Iran, so it does also make me question if it really only is very deadly against East Asians.

    H-1B visas will realistically never go down as the GDP trump's the people always. Although many will not admit it, those Asian coolie coders get the job done for a lower cost.

    The US will play India against China. And there is no such thing as the 'East Asian power team', Japan is also reputedly quite hostile to China and Japan is close to India and the US.

    I wouldn't be surprised if we see some US bases in India in the near future, it will be a good location geographically to cut China's oil supply in the event if a war.

    It is also quite possible India is playing born sides, much like Turkey. The US still sells arms to both despite both countries having bought the Russian S-400 missile system.

    India's problem is not just low-IQ, it is the crazy amounts of diversity they have, nothing gets done because one caste is at another's caste's throat most of the time. Apparently there are a group of upper castes that are analogous to Jews in the West, in that they exploit the masses by speculating with their labour, such a group never helps in development.

    Anyway, India is in the pockets of the Anglo-Zionists ever since the 1991 IMF bailout.

    Rumors are flying every where , as to the deaths in Iran the figure I saw was two elderly males in the city of Qum which is apparently some kind a pilgrimage and teaching center for the Shias and attracts people from all over , China included .

    The Back Death , another gift from the East killed 50% of Europeans but in the end it had a positive effect in the evolution of the European economy and society’s development . I’m sure that several of the more knowledgeable posters here can correct me if I’m wrong and would welcome any input .

  80. OT:

    You know the Overton window has shifted considerably when legacy media outlets start running stories on Jewish-American pedophiles’ fleeing to Israel:

    The casual use of the phrase “Jewish-American pedophile” is significant. It would have been unthinkable just a few short years ago.

    Les Moonves, the disgraced former CBS head honcho who was MeTooed out of his job, is an enthusiastic supporter of America’s Number-One Ally(R). One wonders whether he would have allowed such a piece to run.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    Compare Tampa to Miami.
    , @HammerJack
    If I saw that on TV? I would totally plotz.
  81. @Reg Cæsar

    ...but I am puzzled by the high level of support for Republicans amongst Vietnamese.
     
    We fought a war for them. The Dems started it, but they betrayed. The GOP hasn't apologized, and there is no reason why they should.

    Plus, the Vietnamese here, like the Cubans, are self-sufficient. Geopolitics had the Hmong voting GOP at first, but they were so poor, the Dems-- the DFL, as in Bruce Vento-- could easily buy their support, as did FDR with blacks fifty years earlier.

    When I lived in Louisiana in the 80’s there was some resentment towards the Vietnamese immigrants because of the way they became more prosperous than the natives . They were more self-sufficient as you say but it was more than that . As I understood it at the time while the Americans were in hock to the bank for their homes and fishing boats , the Viets would band together and pool their money to purchase homes and fishing boats . So one person would take out a mortgage to buy a house and 20 people would move in and put all their money towards paying off the loan . They would pay off the loan quickly and move on to the next person . Also IIRC they would pool their money and cut out the bank altogether , they did the same with their fishing boats which was an industry they concentrated in . This was in the 80’s and the oil patch was going through tough times . The word was that the Japanese at that time whose economy was doing well were buying up whole neighborhoods of foreclosures in Houston . Of course this was just what I observed and heard . I lived there at the time but worked on deep waterships and so wasn’t dependent on the local economy . I remember thinking that instead of resenting the Vietnamese immigrants the locals should follow their example . I suppose if they had done that the financial industry would have quickly moved to have regulations passed into law to stop that practice for the protection of the public .

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    So one person would take out a mortgage to buy a house and 20 people would move in and put all their money towards paying off the loan.
     
    A house with 20 people living in it is a hostel/hotel and there are a bunch of expensive safety, insurance and hygiene regulations that need to be met by the homeowner, with heavy fines or imprisonment for failure to comply.
  82. Anon[223] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: I have begun to suspect that Covid-19 actually isn’t any more lethal than a regular virus that’s been circulating around in the population for generations. The problem is its transmission rate.

    In a normal population, if Person A gets a virus, and Person E has pre-existing medical conditions that make it likely E is going to die from it (elderly, other health issues, or is currently sick with something else), that virus still has to pass through Persons B, C, and D to get to E so it can kill E.

    But in a normal population, random amounts of Persons B, C, and D have resistance to that virus. One or more of them have had that virus in the last year or two, or may have been exposed to just enough of it to reinforce immunity, so that they never become sick enough to become a carrier. Thus the chain of transmission to Person E is halted. However, every now and then through random chance you get a B, C, and D who have low resistance, so person E gets it and dies. This sort of transmission is what makes up our normal death statistics from flu, pneumonia, and other respiratory diseases every year.

    But with Covid-19, a new virus, nobody in the population has any resistance. Therefore, we’re getting almost perfect transmission to all the Person Es in a population, and they’re all ending up in the hospital and large clusters of them are dying.

    So far, the death rate outside of China from Covid-19 is 1.2%, when I looked at it last night. That’s not very lethal to the population as a whole, and is the sort of thing you’d see if all the Person Es are getting hit. Once the world population has had a year or two to be exposed to Covid-19 and develop immunity, the rates of transmission will likely drop to our normal yearly flu and pneumonia rates. Covid-19 might even disappear entirely if almost everybody has immunity to it. But this is without any changes in the virus from mutation.

    You need to think of the rate of transmission not so much as something inherent in the virus–all viruses try to reproduce themselves–but as a rate that is calculated based on how resistant the host population is.

    Now, if the virus mutates, this can change. But I found out something very interesting from researching the Spanish Flu. The Spanish Flu came in 3 waves. Wave 1 was mild, with a lower death rate. Wave 2, which they think may have mutated, was more virulent. But the important point is, people who were infected by Wave 1 tended to be immune to Wave 2. So people sick in the first wave were protected against the greater danger of the 2nd wave.

    Getting sick early on from Covid-19, as long as it’s a mild case, may be protective against anything more dangerous from potential mutations of Covid-19 later on this year or the next year.

    • Replies: @anon
    As Pasteur is alleged to have said on his deathbed ''The Germ is nothing, the Terrain everything'' http://www.susandoreydesigns.com/insights/pasteur-recant.html
    Old people eating glue their whole lives are going to expel the residue thru the lungs when they get the Flu, the bowel can't adsorb the waste released into the bloodstream since the bowel wall is caked with the remains of 40,000 meals.
    What most people call the Flu is just a bad cold, real Influenza is almost as severe as pneumonia.
  83. @Just Passing Through
    I don't know where you read this stuff, but the only 'White' people who invaded India were the British, and even that wasn't a proper invasion.

    The 'Aryans' who came into India looked more like light-skinned Iranians than 'White' (the latter of which conjured up images of Northern Europeans in most people's minds.

    There is not a single Indian that looks European, as they are Caucasians, they will have European facial features, but they will not be European looking.

    The Taj Mahal was built in 1653 by Persian architects, Persians allegedly gave an IQ of 84 which puts them a tad above Indians who are alleged to have an IQ of 82.

    The ancient 'Aryans' who migrated into India didn't look like the Aryans most White people imagine when they hear the term (blue-eyes and blond(e) hair)

    Whites have a long list of achievements, I don't get why some people have to start doing this 'We wuz Hindoos n shieet' gig.

    The ‘Aryans’ who came into India looked more like light-skinned Iranians than ‘White’ (the latter of which conjured up images of Northern Europeans in most people’s minds.

    Honestly we do not have any real clue what the invading/migrating Aryans looked like but we do not know if they looked like light skinned Iranians either. Both “blue eyed blond” and “light skinned Iranians” are just assumptions. However there is one clue.

    And the clue are the ancient Alans
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alans

    The name Alan is an Iranian dialectical form of Aryan, a common self-designation of the Indo-Iranians.[2] Possibly related to the Massagetae, the Alans have been connected by modern historians with the Central Asian Yancai and Aorsi of Chinese and Roman sources, respectively.[6] Having migrated westwards and become dominant among the Sarmatians on the Pontic Steppe, they are mentioned by Roman sources in the 1st century AD.[1] At the time, they had settled the region north of the Black Sea and frequently raided the Parthian Empire and the Caucasian provinces of the Roman Empire.[1] In 215–250 AD, their power on the Pontic Steppe was broken by the Goths.

    The various forms of Alan – Greek: Ἀλανοί Alanoi; Chinese: 阿蘭聊 Alanliao (Pinyin) in the 2nd century,[11] 阿蘭 Alan in the 3rd century[12] and later Alanguo (阿蘭國)[13] – are derived from Iranian dialectal forms of Aryan.[2][14] This word was preserved in modern Ossetian language in form of Allon.[15][16] These and other variants of Aryan (such as Iran) were common self-designations of the Indo-Iranians, the common ancestors of the Indo-Aryans and Iranian peoples to whom the Alans belonged.
    …snip…
    The fourth-century Roman historian Ammianus Marcellinus wrote that the Alans were tall, and blond:

    Nearly all the Alani are men of great stature and beauty; their hair is somewhat yellow, their eyes are terribly fierce.[57]

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    You're only scratching the surface. Besides, genetics already proved the Andronovo people who brought the Aryan languages to India were Nordic.
    , @S. Anonyia
    “Somewhat yellow” sounds like brown hair glinting in the sun. Fierce eyes can be any color.

    Surely among the Yamnaya there were some blonds but I doubt they approached Scandinavian/Baltic levels of blondness. Probably resembled populations from places like the Balkans or Ukraine/Hungary/Romania.

    Seems to me blondness evolved around the Baltic among its indigenous populations, and spread from there.

    I know that isn’t as exciting as a Conan the Barbarianesque “Nordic steppe invaders sweeping over the world” version of History. Let’s face it, that’s as ridiculous as black Egypt and we wuz kangz.

  84. @Spaulding Smails
    Having worked in tech I can absolutely tell you the subcon H-1Bs are not terribly good at their jobs (haven't met any non-subcon who's worked in tech who disagrees with this observation FYI). All bringing them in does is saturate the market for middle class/white collar jobs just like importing millions of Central Americans did and continues to do to the working class/blue collar sector. And subcons overwhelmingly pull the lever for Dems, even though they tend to be high(er) earners. Trump trying to court their votes is in vain. You're not necessarily going to get socialism with the Dems; more like a caste/castizo system with woke state/corporate-enforced rhetoric and some minimal trappings of socialism (some gibs for some lumpemproles, depending on how many intersectionality boxes they can check off). Subcons have rapidly mastered woke rhetoric and are clearly much more effective at leveraging it than, say, E. Asians. As they essentially wrote the book on caste systems, this is a very good fit for the subcons.

    Fun times ahead, indeed.

    Having worked in tech I can absolutely tell you the subcon H-1Bs are not terribly good at their jobs (haven’t met any non-subcon who’s worked in tech who disagrees with this observation FYI).

    I also work in tech and second this.

    • Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.)
    I disagree, and I write networking software in Silicon Valley, and have for years.

    1) Most Indian software engineers are average. Not bad, just average. And personable. I think the H-1B program should be cancelled, because a lot of it is predicated on 'the best and brightest' nonsense, and absolutely doesn't help Americans in any way, shape, or form. Average software engineers can easily be grown and found in America. I think President Trump has done a lot more good than harm, but any President should be constantly and publicly questioning why a nation of 330 million people cannot develop native talent in any occupational field. All the public excuses for H-1B are pathetic, but I have lived to see one president question illegal immigration and free trade. Perhaps another will actually have the guts to tackle the damaging effects of corporate driven 'skilled' immigration on Americans. It won't be Trump, but the current foundation is important.

    2) Software engineering is not IT. I care not about the whining of 'real' engineers -- I have a degree in real engineering, and am unimpressed -- or IT professionals, who claim we are all the same.
    We are not -- and I worked a long time in IT. There should be absolutely zero H-1Bs in IT.
    Zero. It is not necessary. There is no IT job at all that requires skills that need to be imported. Even though they are my competition I can understand some H-1Bs in software. But not IT.

    3) Indians will not assimilate easily. And I care not to live in a hindu country anymore than a muslim one.
  85. @Just Passing Through
    That's where you are wrong kiddo

    https://www.8asians.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/AALDEF_2012_AA_voting_by_enthnicity.png

    https://www.8asians.com/2013/02/05/aaldef-asian-american-vote-in-2012-varied-by-ethnic-group-and-geographic-location/

    Interestingly, despite Chinese and Indian being the richest ethnic group in America, they both skew heavily towards Dems.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income


    I know a lot of Filipinos are Christian so that explains the relatively high level of support for the GOP amongst that cohort, but I am puzzled by the high level of support for Republicans amongst Vietnamese.

    If Japanese-Americans were shown on this chart, I bet they would score higher than average Asian American, just like Vietnamese it’s probably a residual effect of FDR interning all their grandparents. Even though Korean-Americans scored pretty low, they along with Vietnamese/ Filipino/Japanese are the 4 set of Asian American voters that Republicans need to focus like a laser on.

  86. @AKAHorace
    Unrelated but of interest:

    https://www.wired.com/story/astronomy-expands-its-scope-from-the-heavens-to-humans/

    Their papers will go to 1thirteen subcommittees (called “panels,” because astronomers can’t use normal words in normal ways)….

    pan·​el | \ ˈpa-nᵊl \

    b (1) : a group of persons selected for some service (such as investigation or arbitration)
    a panel of experts
    a government advisory panel
    b (2) : a group of persons who discuss before an audience a topic of public interest
    The panel agreed to accept questions following the discussion.

    I’m a Denver-based freelance science writer, a contributing writer at WIRED Science, and a contributing editor at Popular Science. I am also the author of the book ​Making Contact: Jill Tarter and the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence and the forthcoming They Are Already Here: UFO Culture and Why We See Saucers. A writing portfolio lives here. In previous lives, I was an associate editor at Astronomy and a public education person at the National Radio Astronomy Observatory in Green Bank, West Virginia. When I’m not making sentences or recording our conversations, I enjoy reading short story collections, running weirdly long distances in the wilderness, teaching my dog English, and trying to become a better navigator.

  87. BUTTIGIEG NOT ENOUGH OF A JOKE, DECIDES TO IMITATE BIDEN
    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/484270-9-year-old-asks-buttigieg-how-to-be-strong-and-tell-people-he-is-gay-too
    CIA candidate Peterbotherer Buttigieg shares a stage with the youngest out homosexual his campaign could procure. In solidarity with both kinds of alphabet people, Pete puts the P in LBGTQP.

  88. So, Israelis like Trump, but American Jews hate him.

    And Indians like Trump, but Indians in America hate him.

    Notice a pattern?

    • Agree: Malla
  89. MALINGERING HOLLYWOOD MOGUL HARVEY WEINSTEIN HAS BEEN FOUND GUIL — aaaaaand President Trump has pardoned Harvey Weinstein, at an appearance in which he noted that his own political supporters should “go to hell.”
    https://www.wsaz.com/content/news/Weinstein-jury-back-to-work-with-signs-of-split-over-charges-568136081.html

    Harvey Weinstein has been convicted at his New York City sexual assault trial, and the judge ordered him to jail immediately after his conviction.

  90. @Chris Renner

    I am puzzled by the high level of support for Republicans amongst Vietnamese
     
    They support Republicans for the same reason Cubans do: because Republicans were the consistently anti-Communist party during the Cold War. That said, the Republican loyalty for both groups is much less among their younger cohorts, who didn't necessarily live under Communism themselves or have a parent who did.

    Absolutely true on that difference in republican support between older and younger Vietnamese, that is precisely the reason why place like orange county stayed read up until now but finally flipped blue in the last election cycle as younger Vietnamese finally started voting.

  91. Trump Is Colluding With The Asian Indians To Flood The USA With An Invasionary Horde Of Haughty Asian Indian Hindus On H-1B Visas.

    Trump has crawled into bed with the Republican Party CHEAP LABOR FACTION and they are opening the Asian Indian Invasion Floodgates.

    Trump wants to cram tens of millions of Asian Indians into the USA.

    Trump went to Houston in September of 2019 and he told a whole packed stadium of Asian Indians that he was going to flood more Asian Indians into the USA. Trump sold out the sovereignty and cultural cohesion of the USA in front of tens of thousands of ululating and screaming Asian Indians in Houston. Houston, we have a problem and that problem is fat-assed baby boomer donor whore Trump is doing every damn thing he can to pour more foreigners into the USA.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if Trump has barges set up to float tens of millions of Asian Indians to the USA. Trump could cram the Asian Indian Barges full of them to the rafters and then order the US Navy to tow these barges full of foreigners to the USA. The USA should be removing foreigners by the barge load and this damn anti-White boob Trump is pushing for more and more mass legal immigration of Asian Indian foreigners.

    A sensible and patriotic immigration policy would remove most of the Asian Indians in the USA and completely halt the arrival of anymore Asian Indians to our country.

    The evil and immoral Republican Party, led by Trump and US Sen. Mike Lee, is now sneakily colluding with the Indian ruling class to flood tens of millions of Asian Indians into the USA.

    I will not vote for Trump in November.

    I will vote for the new political party called White Core America.

    Don’t forget about all the ASIAN INDIAN MEDICAL SCAM criminals that are robbing the USA blind while Trump smiles at all the Asian Indians waving their filthy fingers at Trump’s fat baby boomer ass.

    Tweet from 2014:

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    Good God in Heaven you are long-winded.

    I will not vote for Trump in November.
     
    I'll alert the media. Another vote for Bloomberg! Because that's actually the choice you have.

    I will vote for the new political party called White Core America.
     
    You are delusional.

    Trump smiles at all the Asian Indians waving their filthy fingers at Trump’s fat baby boomer ass.
     
    Let me guess. You were literally shaking when you wrote that.
  92. @Malla
    Hey, why not? Bhagwan Shri Donald Trump is a God in India. He has his very own temple.

    https://www.greattelangaana.com/english/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Trump-Temple.jpg

    https://www.eturbonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/0a.jpg

    https://img.etimg.com/thumb/msid-74203511,width-640,resizemode-4,imgsize-68884/life-size-statue-of-trump.jpg

    Here we see Indians perform holy yagna (fire sacrifice) for Bhagwan Donald Trump's victory

    https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c11f0d72100006708ca739a.jpeg?ops=scalefit_630_noupscale

    https://www.storypick.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/TR-2.jpg

    https://www.thenewsminute.com/sites/default/files/styles/news_detail/public/donald_trump_prayers_PTI.jpg?itok=qYeko1SU

    Bhagwan Trump returns to the land of his devotees. Take that Democrats. For the bad karma of trying to impeach Lord Bhagwan the best they can hope for their next birth is to be reborn as cockroaches living off the rubbish from the future Baron Trump's garbage bin.

    Absolutely amazing.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Indeed! But I wonder if they have even the slightest inkling what would happen to them if they tried any of that in the USA. Hey! Why don't we ever seem to get these Indians over here??
  93. @Redneck farmer
    They laughed when we called DJT the God-Emperor. Now who's laughing, heretics?

    But will he transform into a swarm of sandtrouts as his enemies close in on him?

  94. @S. Anonyia
    It has spread to Italy. Some habitual marathon runner/male socialite from Northern Italy was patient zero (I assume, don’t quote me) and possibly exposed up to 15,000 people to the virus.

    He is ill but not dead. A few ethnic Italians have died and their government is taking this pretty seriously...canceling football.

    It’s also in Iran now, because of some Chinese travelers to Qom.

    If Iranians and Europeans are now catching it and getting seriously ill that means the theories about this primarily being a bioweapon to target East Asians were wrong. It could still be a bio weapon but looks like everyone is susceptible.

    Not sure if this is true but I’ve heard it’s much worse on men than women, and that men have been the majority of the deaths in Wuhan. Possibly due to men having more ACE 2 molecules in their lungs, which act as early receptors for the virus to bind to.

    Willing to bet a lot of people in the U.S already have it, and it hasn’t manifested yet. There are lots of missionaries and NGO workers who recently returned home from China or Thailand. Doubt they are taking precautions to avoid spreading it here, and these are very social people who attend lots of events. Things are probably going to get crazy in some U.S cities, come May or so.

    The news of it spreading to Italy sucks because my husband and I were planning a trip through Switzerland and Northern Italy.

    If Iranians and Europeans are now catching it and getting seriously ill that means the theories about this primarily being a bioweapon to target East Asians were wrong. It could still be a bio weapon but looks like everyone is susceptible.

    This bioweapon stuff is bullshit.

    It’s just a normal virus.

    If, whenever you fall downstairs, you get quoted on Twitter/Youtube/Unz/SomeOtherCrazyAssMeetingPlace about how the Deep State is wanting to kill you nefariously by installing remotely controlled staircases that make you stumble, you will be treated as a fucking asshole with mental problems and rightly so. Same here.

    We had the “it’s a bioweapon” bullshit every single time since at least HIV entered the scene. Back then, the rumor mongering was cooked up by Soviets I hear.

    Also: Milanese emptying shelves

    via

    https://www.rt.com/news/481542-milan-zombie-apocalypse-coronavirus/

    It begins!

  95. Great. Next he’s going to tell them how Indians “enriched” America and how we need more Indian immigrants, then come home and push for Mike Lee’s (R-UT) Senate bill that gives maximum number of green cards to Indians and only Indians for the next 10 years!

    Make India Great Again!

  96. @Spaulding Smails
    Having worked in tech I can absolutely tell you the subcon H-1Bs are not terribly good at their jobs (haven't met any non-subcon who's worked in tech who disagrees with this observation FYI). All bringing them in does is saturate the market for middle class/white collar jobs just like importing millions of Central Americans did and continues to do to the working class/blue collar sector. And subcons overwhelmingly pull the lever for Dems, even though they tend to be high(er) earners. Trump trying to court their votes is in vain. You're not necessarily going to get socialism with the Dems; more like a caste/castizo system with woke state/corporate-enforced rhetoric and some minimal trappings of socialism (some gibs for some lumpemproles, depending on how many intersectionality boxes they can check off). Subcons have rapidly mastered woke rhetoric and are clearly much more effective at leveraging it than, say, E. Asians. As they essentially wrote the book on caste systems, this is a very good fit for the subcons.

    Fun times ahead, indeed.

    Anyone who’s been in tech knows Subcons are the biggest chest thumping bullshit artists of the East. The ones who work for Indian outsourcing firms write spaghetti codes.

    Subcon female politicians are the most liberal socialistards, check out Kshama Sawant and Pramila Jayapal from Seattle, Saira Rao from CO.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    Subcon female politicians are the most liberal socialistards, check out Kshama Sawant and Pramila Jayapal from Seattle, Saira Rao from CO.

     

    Nimrata Hailey -- who sneakily calls herself NIKKI -- is also an Asian Indian female politician of the worst sort imaginable.

    Nimrata Haley puts the interests of Israel over and above the interests of the USA. To be fair, that little bastard Lindsey Graham from South Carolina does the same thing too.

    Nimrata Haley, while governor of South Carolina, was the Asian Indian interloper who ripped the blessed and sacred Confederate Battle Flag from the South Carolina statehouse grounds. I think she shimmied up the damn flagpole and grabbed that Confederate Battle flag and ripped it down herself.

    Nimrata Haley pushes mass legal immigration and REFUGEE OVERLOAD and ASYLUM SEEKER INUNDATION.

    Nimrata Haley fully supports the Republican Party plot to continue to use mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration as demographic weapons to attack and destroy the USA.

    Tweet from 2015:

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/644942631605301248?s=20
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    Here's a way to test your hypothesis.

    If you look at foreign recipients of science&engineering PHDs, around 15% are Indian. Since PHDs do indeed represent the "best and brightest" of the world, we would expect 1/6th of H-1bs to be Indian.

    However, Indians account for 65-75% of H-1b visa recipients.

    If you do the math, that implies 75-80% of Indian H-1bs are here on the basis of ethnic networking/nepotism/fraud. Though 20-25% of Indian H-1bs are as good as the hype suggests.

    Presumably, the highly competent 20-25% get into corporate management positions, then nepotistically hire the other 75-80% to work in their corporate IT department.

    Anyone who’s been in tech knows Subcons are the biggest chest thumping bullshit artists of the East.
     
    The corporate world is full of bullsh*t artists. Especially if you look at who gets promoted into managements, it's people who can talk a good game.

    I'd even say most White corporate managers are empty suit types too. However, unlike Indians, Whites have zero ethnic solidarity. So they use their BS skills to advance their personal careers, while Indian managers use their BS skills to import as many of their caste/jati/village as possible. That's the difference.

    Whites aren't lacking in bullsh*tting skills, but they are lacking in ethnic solidarity. That's the reason why they're getting screwed so badly in IT companies these days.

    Other than Jews (who are very nepotistic), Whites simply don't have any type of group strategy. In an increasingly tribalistic America, Whites can't remain that way and still hope to stay in the middle-class.
  97. • Replies: @El Dato
    OT: Something directly from "Outbreak":

    Deputy Health Minister of #Iran Harirchi who is infected with #CoronaVirus had a joint presser along with spokesman of the government Rabiei yesterday among journalists. A footage published earlier had raised suspicion that he might had been infected with the virus.

     

    https://twitter.com/AbasAslani/status/1232272542968184832

    That takes care of the Iranian government then.
  98. @Just Passing Through
    Coronavirus should be deadly in India given the congestion and close proximity of people, yet no deaths have been reported, puzzlingly there have allegedly been 12 deaths in Iran and I don't think there are many Chinese in Iran, so it does also make me question if it really only is very deadly against East Asians.

    H-1B visas will realistically never go down as the GDP trump's the people always. Although many will not admit it, those Asian coolie coders get the job done for a lower cost.

    The US will play India against China. And there is no such thing as the 'East Asian power team', Japan is also reputedly quite hostile to China and Japan is close to India and the US.

    I wouldn't be surprised if we see some US bases in India in the near future, it will be a good location geographically to cut China's oil supply in the event if a war.

    It is also quite possible India is playing born sides, much like Turkey. The US still sells arms to both despite both countries having bought the Russian S-400 missile system.

    India's problem is not just low-IQ, it is the crazy amounts of diversity they have, nothing gets done because one caste is at another's caste's throat most of the time. Apparently there are a group of upper castes that are analogous to Jews in the West, in that they exploit the masses by speculating with their labour, such a group never helps in development.

    Anyway, India is in the pockets of the Anglo-Zionists ever since the 1991 IMF bailout.

    Good points. Just one and a half quibbles: My term “East Asian power team” meant China itself as an economic power. No collection of nations was intended. India cannot offset China in some trade-competitive way, in whatever manner that is imagined to be, precisely because of its low IQ and “crazy amounts of diversity,” which I called a menagerie.

    • Thanks: Just Passing Through
  99. Trump is making the Asian Indians go crazy!

    Narayana Kocherlakota, who is half Asian Indian and half Whitey, according to the internet, is now screaming like a bastard about cutting the federal funds rate a quarter or a half percent because the globalized asset bubbles are imploding a bit. We are below 2 percent on the federal funds rate now and this Princeton Nutcake Kocherlakota is screaming like a wet hen for more monetary extremism?

    This guy called Kocherlakota — which sounds like a Sidney Lumet Western movie title — is a wild-eyed nutcake from Princeton and this guy Kocherlakota is as bananas as the boob from Canada Teddy Cruz, who also went to Princeton. Princeton has Burr in the ground and lots of nuts all around — black squirrels too!

    Kocherlakota is a mentally deranged central banker shyster who would drag the federal funds rate to negative twenty to keep these damn global asset bubbles inflated!

    Trump wants tens of millions of Kocherlakotas crammed into every nook and cranny of the USA and he wants these Asian Indian nutckakes to swamp the USA.

    Trump wants to drag whole villages of Asian Indians into the USA — including all the dogs and bats and rats — and Trump wants to use the invasionary hordes of Asian Indians as a demographic weapon to attack and destroy the European Christian ancestral core of the USA.

    The USA will be destroyed by more and more Kocherlakotas doing this or that.

    Trump is an enemy of the American people!

    Trump wants to swamp your town and city and state with tens of millions of Asian Indians.

    Trump and US Sen. Mike Lee have crawled into bed with the Republican Party Cheap Labor Faction ruling class and the ruling class of India to flood tens of millions of Asian Indians into the USA.

  100. The song they play at the stadium receiving Trump was the Village People’s Macho Man. The hosts were presumably uanaware this is a gay anthem.

    • Replies: @newrouter
    That song is played at Trump rallies.
  101. Hey Steve, why do all my replies go to awaiting moderation? Is it because I am a newbie and will go away in few days/after a few replies or is it like USCIS waiting list where Indians and Chinese have a long waiting list 🙂

  102. Anonymous[408] • Disclaimer says:
    @RichardTaylor
    Long ago there were a lot White people in India. All the amazing accomplishments we read about in ancient India. But over time, they mixed with the local population and turned into what they are now.

    You can still see Indians who look like Europeans but their numbers are small.

    The Aryan invaders of India were like Pakistanis and Iranians and other Near Eastern peoples, rather than like Europeans.

    The pre-Aryan Harappan and Dravidian civilizations were the sophisticated cultures of ancient India. They had sophisticated plumbing and irrigation systems that post-Aryan India never recovered and still lacks today.

    Even today most of the intellectual talent of India comes from the Dravidian South.

    The Aryan invaders of India were likely similar to Pashtuns, Chechens, Pakistanis – very tribal, warlike groups that were good warriors and able to impose their rule.

  103. @Just Passing Through
    US is going to use India to balance of China in the military sphere, this visit is mostly about selling US weaponry. I believe the deal for dozens of MH-60 helicopters has already been inked.

    India may help develop a more favorable balance of power from a US perspective, but what does it really deter China from doing? It’s not as though China is planning on launching invasions around Euroasia. Economic/technological advances are the core of their plan of competition.

    More dangerous to China would be a move by the US to co-opt a Taliban-led Afghanistan and a reinvigorated US-Pak relationship to exploit the Uighur issue and poison Chinese-Muslim relations

    Generating impediments to transportation infrastructure through Afghanistan that could link China, Iran and the Gulf by land routes is possibly a consideration as well.

    India can’t really get its act together to challenge China economically–at least not so far. Interesting to see how the US is trying to upend renewed China-Sri Lanka ties once again with sanctions.

    Namaste Trump is all well and good, but I don’t think China is overly concerned.

  104. @Just Passing Through
    Both East Asians and Indians vote heavily for Democrat. It is puzzling because both groups are on average richer than Whites and don't qualify for affirmative action like Hispanics and Blacks. Indians after all come under the category of 'Asian' and in fact seem to do very well in SATs and whatnot.

    I doubt Dems would care about Asians and wouldn't hesitate taking away their wealth to redistribute to Blacks.

    Indian Americans vote for Democrats because Democrats in the past made an effort to reach out. The logic until very recently is very simple. POC’s vs Whites. Democrats usually show up during Hindu festivals or wear ethnic dress and at least pretend to care about browns.

    The same used to happen in UK where Indians & pakistanis both voted labour.

    But very recently Labour in UK & Democrats in US decided to throw Indian Americans under the bus and throw their lot with Islamists. In their hierarchy of importance POC’s are now lower than Muslims. So Hindus & Sikhs voted Tories in recent parliamentary elections.

    Something similar is happening in US. I think Donald Trump will get more Indian American votes as a % compared to any other republican candidate in the past. He or his team knows it and they are reaching out to IA community.

    US politics are fiercely fought. When Democrats ignored the concerns of blue collar white working class in mid-west, Trump reached out to them and swung the election. Same thing is happening here. The only difference is that number of IA voters is insignificant compared to mid western blue collar white voters.

  105. Anon[223] • Disclaimer says:

    Somewhat OT: CEOs Keep 1 Million Indian Graduates in U.S. Jobs, Legally

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/02/17/ceos-keep-1-million-indian-graduates-in-u-s-jobs-legally/

    We need to make it illegal to discriminate against our own citizens, because that’s what’s happening in many workplaces. Our own people should get first priority. Native US citizens are being nepotismed out of jobs.

    “The Indian labor force is so large that many American graduates now work in Indian-run offices throughout corporate America, and especially in Silicon Valley. In those offices, the mass of Indian workers and managers has pushed out many Americans, has replaced U.S. professionalism with Indian-style workplace politics of caste and ethnic alliances, deference to managers, blame-shifting, kickbacks, and hostility to outsiders, according to numerous reports and lawsuits, as well as statements by Indian participants and by U.S. witnesses to Breitbart News.”

    “Americans get screened out from jobs even before the interview process, he said. “I know at one point there was a woman that was an Indian woman who was in the human resources department. … She was sorting through the resumes and all we got … was resumes from India.”

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    We need to make it illegal to discriminate against our own citizens, because that’s what’s happening in many workplaces. Our own people should get first priority. Native US citizens are being nepotismed out of jobs.
     
    Keep dreaming.

    Native-born heritage Americans are just tax sheep to be shorn to supply gibs for everyone else.
    , @HammerJack
    Sounds pretty much like what Jews have done whenever they got a foothold in a particular industry. Americans didn't mind when Jews did it, so why should they mind when Indians do it?

    “Americans get screened out from jobs even before the interview process, he said. “I know at one point there was a woman that was an Indian woman who was in the human resources department. … She was sorting through the resumes and all we got … was resumes from India.”
     
    That person sounds suspiciously like Ralph Wiggum.
  106. @Just Passing Through
    Both East Asians and Indians vote heavily for Democrat. It is puzzling because both groups are on average richer than Whites and don't qualify for affirmative action like Hispanics and Blacks. Indians after all come under the category of 'Asian' and in fact seem to do very well in SATs and whatnot.

    I doubt Dems would care about Asians and wouldn't hesitate taking away their wealth to redistribute to Blacks.

    Both groups vote Democrat for a number of reasons.
    First, they are hoping against hope that using their influence in the Democratic Party they can eventually get affirmative action status despite their success, because they are non-White. Or at a minimum, not be actively discriminated against like Whites are.
    Second, they identify the Republican Party as the White Party, which it is even though Republicans refuse to acknowledge that and use it. Therefore the Republicans are just the other side.
    Third, the Dems are reliably open borders. Asians want to bring in their extended family members, and they want to staff the companies they found, or in which they have management positions with people of their own ethnicity.
    PSR in a comment above refers to the typical Asian family bringing their parents in to visit once a year. Much more commonly they use family reunification to get green cards for their aged parents. The law requires them to certify that the parents won’t be a public burden but of course, everyone ignores that. The parents take care of the grandkids and after five years become naturalized citizens. At that point they are eligible to apply for SSI on the basis that they have no income. They then collect a Social Security check from a system they never put a dime into. They live with their kids, continue to take care of the grandkids, and their SS payments go into the family kitty. In California you see huge numbers of totttering old folks with not a word of English, wearing native dress. If you see them at the airport, most of them are clutching US passports.

  107. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Not only that, but from places like Guatemala we get the poorest of the poor who will be burdens on our social welfare system unto the 7th generation whereas India tends to send us skilled workers who are net positive taxpayers. (In India, the poorest of the poor are too poor even to travel). I realize folks here don’t like immigrants period but there really is a difference between various immigrant groups. The Indians are not the ones who are going to be voting for socialismo.
     
    Jack, I think you're entirely missing the point.

    The purpose of the U.S. immigration system should be to further the interests of the American people generally defined.

    Simultaneously importing both Guatemalans and Indians is a pincers move against the native American population.

    The Guatemalans perform unskilled labor for rock bottom prices - I'm aware that many live in apartments with multiple adult men whether they're landscaping, framing, drywalling or roofing. The wages are therefore kept so low that entire labor markets are consumed by foreigners. If one falls off a roof and goes SPLAT, you can just throw him in a wheel barrow and have Hector and Carlos dump him in the ER , do some of the "no hable" act, and run back into the truck to get back to work.

    You are correct that many young Indian immigrants don't directly use welfare programs, but they've been known to heavily use the chain migration strategy to bring over non-prime age Indians to reside here and soak up various benefits.

    Indians of course use their broad family networks of support and resort to cram school tactics to propel their kids to success compared with native born Americans. I don't think that this is a standard route to success that we want to impose upon American kids. It's important to a lot of middle Americans that their kids - even the bright ones - develop not just academically but socially, morally, and athletically. A bright white boy shouldn't have to eschew baseball pr friendships or chasing girls or reading for pleasure because he's losing ground to the kids of Indian immigrants who are cramming in some miserable zero sum cut throat competition.

    If you've attended a Medical School graduation ceremony recently you'll see what I'm getting at here. I'm in no way convinced that the East and South Asians who populate those classes will make better physicians than those bright white boys because the Asians were more maniacal grinders their whole lives.

    A bright white boy shouldn’t have to eschew baseball pr friendships or chasing girls or reading for pleasure because he’s losing ground to the kids of Indian immigrants who are cramming in some miserable zero sum cut throat competition.

    Sure, but if America sealed its borders so that we can adopt a more relaxed and leisurely lifestyle, we would become less competitive globally against other countries.

    So competition is gonna happen one way or another. Either between groups within America or between a white America and other countries.

    Now I for one think it’s a perfectly legitimate choice to accept being less wealthy and less competitive in order to have a better quality of life, but let’s be clear that we’re making that choice.

    So the choice seems to be – whites as a group within America can accept a lower standard of living relative to other groups within America in exchange for a more relaxed lifestyle, or America as a white country can accept a lower standard of living relative to other countries in exchange for a more relaxed lifestyle.

    The growing white preference for a relaxed lifestyle, which has been growing since early last century, is at least partly why the elite want to import more ambitious workers.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Sure, but if America sealed its borders so that we can adopt a more relaxed and leisurely lifestyle, we would become less competitive globally against other countries.
     
    Is it a "relaxed and leisurely lifestyle" for a bright boy to play baseball, have friends, kiss girls and read Hardy Boys books because he likes them in addition to his studies?

    It seems to me that in the 1950s and 1960s the U.S. was dominant globally and its boys played baseball.

    Perhaps the idea of a society isn't to engage in an eternal zero sum struggle in every aspect of life? Maybe what we should have is a culture which isn't obsessively entirely directed to producing cubicle-dwelling wage slaves for maximizing GDP?

    Do you really think the ultra competitive cramming Asians in the U.S. (dots and chopsticks) are having a grand old time doing it? Do you suppose that the Tiger Parenting model involves not a small amount of what most people would consider mental and emotional abuse of children, without accounting for the possibility that the abuse involves a physical element as well?
    , @Colin Wright
    <'The growing white preference for a relaxed lifestyle, which has been growing since early last century, is at least partly why the elite want to import more ambitious workers.'

    I think the word you're looking for is 'docile,' not 'ambitious.'
    , @Colin Wright
    <'The growing white preference for a relaxed lifestyle, which has been growing since early last century, is at least partly why the elite want to import more ambitious workers.'

    I think the word you're looking for is 'docile,' not 'ambitious.'

    After all, when your parents hire a gentile to fix the toilet, do they look for a native, or a Mexican?
  108. anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:
    @UK
    The anti-colonialist west, and some on the dissident right, fail to understand just how unpopular Muslims have made Islam in much of the world. Even among Muslims themselves.

    America is many times more admired than any Muslim majority country. Only people trying to signal their own intellect by going against the obvious don't join in on that.

    Some people may want to use emotional blackmail to get free stuff or immigration to the US, but only the deluded few on places like Unz actually think the US is a less positive part of the world than any Islamic area.

    Trump is unapologetic and so the emotional blackmailers don't show up, while the secure and honest abroad allow their admiration to become obvious.

    how unpopular Muslims have made Islam in much of the world

    Muslims are simply reacting to the evil they have to endure from the pagan/godless Islamophobic peoples who sense a threat from the true monotheism of Islam. It is going to be a long struggle to convert the lot of your descendants (most like you are irredeemable).

    In the meantime, we muslims will continue to worship the One God of all existence, and to humbly earn our ticket to Paradise, Almighty One willing, while all you pagan/godless Islamophobes can expect is a one way ticket to Hell, Almighty One willing. We will have the last laugh.

    while the secure and honest abroad allow their admiration to become obvious.

    Trump is quite evidently an amoral lowlife (grab ’em by the pu**y, yeah!). What does it say about those who admire him? It’s truly pathetic.

    • Troll: Tony
    • Replies: @UK
    The only major thing people like about Muslim countries is how emotionally intense they are. I find it creepy and infantile, but some love all of the alternately pompous grandiose aggressive alternately wailing and gnashing of teeth victimey psycho-drama. They think it is authentic.

    Other than that, there is some credibility that comes from swanning around with oil money, I suppose.

    Neither are going to work out well for those countries. Shouting nonsense while jabbing your finger in the air is not a great substitute for competence.
  109. anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai
    Never underestimate the hatred for Muslims among Modi's fans. They see, like many Nigerian Christians, the image of Trump as president of the United States as anti-Muslim as a big positive. Even if both groups see immigration to the West as their just right.

    Indeed, would Modi have done his quasi annexation of Indian-admin Kashmir if Hilary was president? Maybe, maybe not.

    Indeed, would Modi have done his quasi annexation of Indian-admin Kashmir if Hilary was president?

    Those rightwing lowlifes had promised the “annexation” for many years. It had nothing to do with Trump or Hillary.

    Maybe, maybe not.

    Which means you have no idea what you are talking about. This is for you;

    http://thequotes.in/it-is-better-to-keep-your-mouth-closed-and-let-people-think-you-are-a-fool-than-to-open-it-and-remove-all-doubt-mark-twain/

  110. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Not only that, but from places like Guatemala we get the poorest of the poor who will be burdens on our social welfare system unto the 7th generation whereas India tends to send us skilled workers who are net positive taxpayers. (In India, the poorest of the poor are too poor even to travel). I realize folks here don’t like immigrants period but there really is a difference between various immigrant groups. The Indians are not the ones who are going to be voting for socialismo.
     
    Jack, I think you're entirely missing the point.

    The purpose of the U.S. immigration system should be to further the interests of the American people generally defined.

    Simultaneously importing both Guatemalans and Indians is a pincers move against the native American population.

    The Guatemalans perform unskilled labor for rock bottom prices - I'm aware that many live in apartments with multiple adult men whether they're landscaping, framing, drywalling or roofing. The wages are therefore kept so low that entire labor markets are consumed by foreigners. If one falls off a roof and goes SPLAT, you can just throw him in a wheel barrow and have Hector and Carlos dump him in the ER , do some of the "no hable" act, and run back into the truck to get back to work.

    You are correct that many young Indian immigrants don't directly use welfare programs, but they've been known to heavily use the chain migration strategy to bring over non-prime age Indians to reside here and soak up various benefits.

    Indians of course use their broad family networks of support and resort to cram school tactics to propel their kids to success compared with native born Americans. I don't think that this is a standard route to success that we want to impose upon American kids. It's important to a lot of middle Americans that their kids - even the bright ones - develop not just academically but socially, morally, and athletically. A bright white boy shouldn't have to eschew baseball pr friendships or chasing girls or reading for pleasure because he's losing ground to the kids of Indian immigrants who are cramming in some miserable zero sum cut throat competition.

    If you've attended a Medical School graduation ceremony recently you'll see what I'm getting at here. I'm in no way convinced that the East and South Asians who populate those classes will make better physicians than those bright white boys because the Asians were more maniacal grinders their whole lives.

    East Asians and Indians historically evolved under conditions of overpopulation, limited resources, and extreme competition. So both groups have been subject to a very severe type of Malthusian selection.

    If you read the history of China or India, it’s remarkable how many people were killed off by famines. Industrious, frugal peasants toiled tirelessly just to be able to survive. If a peasant was prosperous enough, he might become a merchant. If the merchant was prosperous enough, his son would go to school to become an educated man. Then he’d advise the emperor.

    It seems like both regions were totally the opposite of Africa, the Middle East, and Latin America.

    That’s why both East Asians and Indians strongly value family solidarity, high-pressure parenting, education, striving, and cunning. The Tiger Parent culture you see today is a product of enduring thousands of years of the Malthusian death struggle.

    If there was one important difference in evolutionary trajectory, it was that Indians evolved in a much more ethnically fragmented environment.

    So that seems to have selected for tribalism and verbosity/argumentativeness. In homogenous East Asia, there was much more selection for social conformity and nationalistic harmony….Also, in ethnically fragmented India, there was an enormous amount of variation among the various endogamous populations. Some were quite educated and skilled, others lived in destitution and were totally uneducated. In homogenous East Asia, there was a more standard distribution of different traits (like cognitive ability).

    Now you’ve got the “best and brightest” of East Asia and India coming to the U.S. They’re bringing the whole high-pressure “cram school” culture with them, making it much more competitive to get into a good undergrad program or grad school.

    While the East Asians are perhaps somewhat limited by their lack of English fluency, the Indians have the verbosity, chutzpah, and command of English necessary to compete with Whites for top corporate jobs. Also, the Indians are much more into ethnic networking too, so they’re importing hordes of their co-ethnics into IT/software.

    I don’t want to diminish the competitiveness of East Asians. While they may not be capable of getting to the “C suite” in the U.S., they are very aggressive about acquiring American intellectual property and taking it back to their homelands. Then starting companies to out compete American companies. According to one source, China steals $400 in IP every year from the U.S. You can bet that Asian migrants are a conduit for that.

    All of this is absolutely lowering the standard of living for all of us.

    • Thanks: Just Passing Through
    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    If you grew up in the 70s or even the 80s, it's absolutely shocking to see what's happening in today's America. If you want your kid to have the idyllic existence that you did and still make it into the middle or upper class, that's really not possible anymore. Even White kids (at least from affluent families) have to go to SAT prep classes, get chauffeured to endless extracurriculars, and do multiple AP classes.

    Not that all of this can be blamed on East Asians and Indians. In every sphere of life, competition is becoming worse.

    For example, if you look at sports (which has a light representation of these ethnic groups), there's a lot more competitiveness too these days. You have to take your kid to a strength coach at an early age and perhaps get him on a travel team. You have to show up to all your kid's games and scream at the coach to get him more playing time, so that a college scout will notice him. Sports used to be about fun, camaraderie, and after-game parties. Now sports are infested with LaVar Ball "sports dad" types who've taken all the fun out of the game - and don't let their sons go to after-game parties because they have to get up early the next day to see the strength coach.

    To be fair, less affluent Whites don't do this stuff, but they don't have much fun either. Their fun is being increasingly hindered by anti-loitering laws, strict police, and various types of public ordinances. A lot of them just stay home and watch tv or look at their smartphones.

    Summer jobs, which used to be very common for young people, have become increasingly scarce.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/FT_19.06.20_TeenSummerJobs_1.png

    https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/FT_19.06.20_TeenSummerJobs_1.png?resize=640,763

    If that weren't bad enough, you have to take on a ton of student debt if you want a college degree (which is necessary to enter the middle-class). If you don't go to college, you have to do low-wage non-union grunt work at a place like Wal Mart.

    Then there's the absolutely insane housing prices in lots of our high-growth coastal metros. How does a kid earning $50,000/yr as a "Social Media Consultant" buy into the San Francisco real estate market?

    When you think about what youth life used to be like in this country, it's really remarkable. Being a young person sucks these days.
    , @Autochthon

    If there was one important difference in evolutionary trajectory, it was that Indians evolved in a much more ethnically fragmented environment.
     
    This because the Han brutally murdered the competition, which is telling, and reflected in the continuing differences between the two nations.

    Zero-tolerance efficiency vs. muddling along; soulless collectivism vs. ineffectual syncretism; etc.
  111. @Anon
    Anyone who's been in tech knows Subcons are the biggest chest thumping bullshit artists of the East. The ones who work for Indian outsourcing firms write spaghetti codes.

    Subcon female politicians are the most liberal socialistards, check out Kshama Sawant and Pramila Jayapal from Seattle, Saira Rao from CO.

    Subcon female politicians are the most liberal socialistards, check out Kshama Sawant and Pramila Jayapal from Seattle, Saira Rao from CO.

    Nimrata Hailey — who sneakily calls herself NIKKI — is also an Asian Indian female politician of the worst sort imaginable.

    Nimrata Haley puts the interests of Israel over and above the interests of the USA. To be fair, that little bastard Lindsey Graham from South Carolina does the same thing too.

    Nimrata Haley, while governor of South Carolina, was the Asian Indian interloper who ripped the blessed and sacred Confederate Battle Flag from the South Carolina statehouse grounds. I think she shimmied up the damn flagpole and grabbed that Confederate Battle flag and ripped it down herself.

    Nimrata Haley pushes mass legal immigration and REFUGEE OVERLOAD and ASYLUM SEEKER INUNDATION.

    Nimrata Haley fully supports the Republican Party plot to continue to use mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration as demographic weapons to attack and destroy the USA.

    Tweet from 2015:

  112. @JohnPlywood
    Bullshit. India was invaded by the Indo-Scythians, Andronovo-descended people, Yuezhi, etc. These people were light haired and light eyed.


    Pic related, it's a Yuezhi bust from Khalchayan:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Bust_of_a_man_from_Khalchayan.jpg

    Scythian mummy from Zanjan, Iran:


    https://assets.atlasobscura.com/media/W1siZiIsInVwbG9hZHMvcGxhY2VfaW1hZ2VzL3NhbHRtYW4taXJhbi5qcGciXSxbInAiLCJ0aHVtYiIsIngzOTA-Il0sWyJwIiwiY29udmVydCIsIi1xdWFsaXR5IDgxIC1hdXRvLW9yaWVudCJdXQ/saltman-iran.jpg


    Blond Scythian mummy from central Mongolia:


    https://www.spiegel.de/international/archeological-sensation-ancient-mummy-found-in-mongolia-a-433600.html


    The mummy is unbelievably valuable to science," Hermann Parzinger, president of the German Archeological Institute (DAI), said on Thursday in Berlin. He described the mummy recently discovered in Mongolia as a "one of a kind find" that could increase our knowledge about the nutrition and health of early man.

    The mummy, which is believed to be about 2,500 years old was a 30-to-40 year-old man with blond hair, and was found in very good condition, Patzinger said
     

    Iranians (Persians) are BMAC-rich Meds. The nomadic Indo-Iranians and the central Asian sedentary Indo-Europeans like the Yuezhi contained a Nordic racial element, however, with others being mixed with Dravidoid or Mongoloid.

    That particular group migrated to the subcontinent around the year 200 to 400. Long after the time period known as ‘ancient India’ had passed. And long after the Aryan invasion.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    It represents one of many Indo European and Indo Aryan migrations in to India, which greatly influenced Indian culture. There wasn't just one invasion of satem-speaking pastoralist nomads in to India. Besides, many of these groups were descended from the same people that first migrated to subcon (Andronovo/Sintashta).
    , @Malla
    New research (Prof. Wietzel, Prof.Parpola etc...) push back the Scythian invasion/ migration date back to 800 BC.
  113. @Just Passing Through
    The 'Aryans' who migrated to India most probably looked like Central Asians or lighter skinned Iranians. Much like the Black Egyptian hypothesis, Nordic invaders in India is quite ludicrous.

    Cope. See my other post in this thread. They were Nordic people. Andronovo and Sintashta cultures descended from Corded Ware, an eastward migration from Northern Europe to central, south and East Asia.

  114. @JohnnyWalker123
    East Asians and Indians historically evolved under conditions of overpopulation, limited resources, and extreme competition. So both groups have been subject to a very severe type of Malthusian selection.

    If you read the history of China or India, it's remarkable how many people were killed off by famines. Industrious, frugal peasants toiled tirelessly just to be able to survive. If a peasant was prosperous enough, he might become a merchant. If the merchant was prosperous enough, his son would go to school to become an educated man. Then he'd advise the emperor.

    It seems like both regions were totally the opposite of Africa, the Middle East, and Latin America.

    That's why both East Asians and Indians strongly value family solidarity, high-pressure parenting, education, striving, and cunning. The Tiger Parent culture you see today is a product of enduring thousands of years of the Malthusian death struggle.

    If there was one important difference in evolutionary trajectory, it was that Indians evolved in a much more ethnically fragmented environment.

    So that seems to have selected for tribalism and verbosity/argumentativeness. In homogenous East Asia, there was much more selection for social conformity and nationalistic harmony....Also, in ethnically fragmented India, there was an enormous amount of variation among the various endogamous populations. Some were quite educated and skilled, others lived in destitution and were totally uneducated. In homogenous East Asia, there was a more standard distribution of different traits (like cognitive ability).

    Now you've got the "best and brightest" of East Asia and India coming to the U.S. They're bringing the whole high-pressure "cram school" culture with them, making it much more competitive to get into a good undergrad program or grad school.

    While the East Asians are perhaps somewhat limited by their lack of English fluency, the Indians have the verbosity, chutzpah, and command of English necessary to compete with Whites for top corporate jobs. Also, the Indians are much more into ethnic networking too, so they're importing hordes of their co-ethnics into IT/software.

    I don't want to diminish the competitiveness of East Asians. While they may not be capable of getting to the "C suite" in the U.S., they are very aggressive about acquiring American intellectual property and taking it back to their homelands. Then starting companies to out compete American companies. According to one source, China steals $400 in IP every year from the U.S. You can bet that Asian migrants are a conduit for that.

    All of this is absolutely lowering the standard of living for all of us.

    If you grew up in the 70s or even the 80s, it’s absolutely shocking to see what’s happening in today’s America. If you want your kid to have the idyllic existence that you did and still make it into the middle or upper class, that’s really not possible anymore. Even White kids (at least from affluent families) have to go to SAT prep classes, get chauffeured to endless extracurriculars, and do multiple AP classes.

    Not that all of this can be blamed on East Asians and Indians. In every sphere of life, competition is becoming worse.

    For example, if you look at sports (which has a light representation of these ethnic groups), there’s a lot more competitiveness too these days. You have to take your kid to a strength coach at an early age and perhaps get him on a travel team. You have to show up to all your kid’s games and scream at the coach to get him more playing time, so that a college scout will notice him. Sports used to be about fun, camaraderie, and after-game parties. Now sports are infested with LaVar Ball “sports dad” types who’ve taken all the fun out of the game – and don’t let their sons go to after-game parties because they have to get up early the next day to see the strength coach.

    To be fair, less affluent Whites don’t do this stuff, but they don’t have much fun either. Their fun is being increasingly hindered by anti-loitering laws, strict police, and various types of public ordinances. A lot of them just stay home and watch tv or look at their smartphones.

    Summer jobs, which used to be very common for young people, have become increasingly scarce.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/FT_19.06.20_TeenSummerJobs_1.png?resize=640,763

    If that weren’t bad enough, you have to take on a ton of student debt if you want a college degree (which is necessary to enter the middle-class). If you don’t go to college, you have to do low-wage non-union grunt work at a place like Wal Mart.

    Then there’s the absolutely insane housing prices in lots of our high-growth coastal metros. How does a kid earning $50,000/yr as a “Social Media Consultant” buy into the San Francisco real estate market?

    When you think about what youth life used to be like in this country, it’s really remarkable. Being a young person sucks these days.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @Alden
    One of the grandsons just made it to the all state tournament championship thing this weekend. He’s staying home flat on his back Monday and Tuesday to rest. You’d think it’s a full time job. He left home 6/30 am day after Christmas to be at practice at 8/am Practice practice.

    He’s also on a starvation diet and the coach is pushing prunes and diuretics to stay below normal weight. A paid adult dancer model actor dieting it’s OK. But not a 15 year old whose not grown yet. Season’s almost over thank God. Next is track. I don’t think he’ll have to diet for track. But he loves it. I believe the dieting and hours on bus and subway hard work at practice turned him into a real masculine man like the other men of the family.

    Kids, especially boys had to go out to work 12,14. Now high school for the middle class is just a 60 hour a week ordeal with as much homework as class time. Plus all the other activities White kids have to do to get into college. Others just check black Hispanic gay crazy deranged whatever and it’s an automatic admission.

    One thing I wonder. Do the college admissions critters ever check on all those activities claimed on the applications? Harvard medical school has a new affirmative action program for gays trannies etc. Just check that box
    , @Corvinus
    “In every sphere of life, competition is becoming worse”.

    So? That’s human biodiversity in action. Superior genes coming to the fore. Don’t we want hardened young men? Isn’t the future for those who show up for it?

    And for less affluent whites like myself, we have plenty

    As far as youth life “sucking”, you’d have to ask them en masse. Their responses may actually surprise you.
    , @Autochthon
    Ctrl + F + "overpop*" = { }

    https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/c914709e-8097-4537-92ef-8982fc416138/resource/BLOGS_UPLOADED_IMAGES/graveyardsketch.png
    , @Kaz
    I'm 28 so I just eeked by this past decade into success. From my experience, you don't need to cram, you don't need to do a ton of extra curriculars, getting into a good university isn't that hard.

    Just don't worry about the Ivy Leagues, there is a life outside th em.. Most public universities have good feeder programs with big corporations.

    I'll say in most states there are cheap public universities if you're caught in that trap of being too rich for aid but not rich enough to hand waive away expensive tuition fees.

    People should be at all times, unless they qualify for a ton of scholarships/financial aid, pushed towards these schools. If your state has high in-state tuition fees then go to community college for the first year or two get your core bs classes out of the way and transfer to your flagship state university.

    This way you can graduate with minimal/manageable debt.

    Then, stay the hell out of tier 1 cities like San Francisco, NYC, LA, etc.. if you want to buy a house someday and if you're not making high finance/programmer money.

    You can easily hit 100k+ year before you hit 30 with just an undergrad degree in many cheap metros in the US.

    The downside of this is that a lot of liberals are starting to move down south and bring their toxic mentalities that made their home states so unlivable in the first place.
  115. OT Harvey Weinstein’s been found guilty of rape. Real forcible rape, not lechery, harassment, indecent liberties with a potted plant etc.

    And the prospect of a socialist president has caused stocks to fall. What did the rich liberals expect? Make it illegal to hire a qualified White American, flood the country with poor immigrants and wonder why all those poor people want socialism. Of course it will be American style socialism. No Whites need apply for the benefits.

  116. @JohnPlywood
    Bullshit. India was invaded by the Indo-Scythians, Andronovo-descended people, Yuezhi, etc. These people were light haired and light eyed.


    Pic related, it's a Yuezhi bust from Khalchayan:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Bust_of_a_man_from_Khalchayan.jpg

    Scythian mummy from Zanjan, Iran:


    https://assets.atlasobscura.com/media/W1siZiIsInVwbG9hZHMvcGxhY2VfaW1hZ2VzL3NhbHRtYW4taXJhbi5qcGciXSxbInAiLCJ0aHVtYiIsIngzOTA-Il0sWyJwIiwiY29udmVydCIsIi1xdWFsaXR5IDgxIC1hdXRvLW9yaWVudCJdXQ/saltman-iran.jpg


    Blond Scythian mummy from central Mongolia:


    https://www.spiegel.de/international/archeological-sensation-ancient-mummy-found-in-mongolia-a-433600.html


    The mummy is unbelievably valuable to science," Hermann Parzinger, president of the German Archeological Institute (DAI), said on Thursday in Berlin. He described the mummy recently discovered in Mongolia as a "one of a kind find" that could increase our knowledge about the nutrition and health of early man.

    The mummy, which is believed to be about 2,500 years old was a 30-to-40 year-old man with blond hair, and was found in very good condition, Patzinger said
     

    Iranians (Persians) are BMAC-rich Meds. The nomadic Indo-Iranians and the central Asian sedentary Indo-Europeans like the Yuezhi contained a Nordic racial element, however, with others being mixed with Dravidoid or Mongoloid.

    So to the point, they’re mutts and not pure Caucasian. Admixture, but not majority white.

  117. @Redneck farmer
    They laughed when we called DJT the God-Emperor. Now who's laughing, heretics?

    When the MSM and Dems started calling him literally Hitler, they probably were excited that the Fuhrer had returned as Orange Man.

  118. @Malla

    The ‘Aryans’ who came into India looked more like light-skinned Iranians than ‘White’ (the latter of which conjured up images of Northern Europeans in most people’s minds.
     
    Honestly we do not have any real clue what the invading/migrating Aryans looked like but we do not know if they looked like light skinned Iranians either. Both "blue eyed blond" and "light skinned Iranians" are just assumptions. However there is one clue.

    And the clue are the ancient Alans
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alans

    The name Alan is an Iranian dialectical form of Aryan, a common self-designation of the Indo-Iranians.[2] Possibly related to the Massagetae, the Alans have been connected by modern historians with the Central Asian Yancai and Aorsi of Chinese and Roman sources, respectively.[6] Having migrated westwards and become dominant among the Sarmatians on the Pontic Steppe, they are mentioned by Roman sources in the 1st century AD.[1] At the time, they had settled the region north of the Black Sea and frequently raided the Parthian Empire and the Caucasian provinces of the Roman Empire.[1] In 215–250 AD, their power on the Pontic Steppe was broken by the Goths.

    The various forms of Alan – Greek: Ἀλανοί Alanoi; Chinese: 阿蘭聊 Alanliao (Pinyin) in the 2nd century,[11] 阿蘭 Alan in the 3rd century[12] and later Alanguo (阿蘭國)[13] – are derived from Iranian dialectal forms of Aryan.[2][14] This word was preserved in modern Ossetian language in form of Allon.[15][16] These and other variants of Aryan (such as Iran) were common self-designations of the Indo-Iranians, the common ancestors of the Indo-Aryans and Iranian peoples to whom the Alans belonged.
    …snip…
    The fourth-century Roman historian Ammianus Marcellinus wrote that the Alans were tall, and blond:

    Nearly all the Alani are men of great stature and beauty; their hair is somewhat yellow, their eyes are terribly fierce.[57]

    You’re only scratching the surface. Besides, genetics already proved the Andronovo people who brought the Aryan languages to India were Nordic.

    • Agree: Malla
  119. @jimmyriddle
    India has been suspiciously quiet about covid19.

    I'm guessing no test kits = no virus.

    Trump is in the most vulnerable demographic, and he is a germophobe, so this might get interesting.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=2dc3dnev9rY

    He looks to be in great shape – ready to take on and kick Bernie’s or Bloomfield’s ass. 🙂

  120. @JohnnyWalker123
    If you grew up in the 70s or even the 80s, it's absolutely shocking to see what's happening in today's America. If you want your kid to have the idyllic existence that you did and still make it into the middle or upper class, that's really not possible anymore. Even White kids (at least from affluent families) have to go to SAT prep classes, get chauffeured to endless extracurriculars, and do multiple AP classes.

    Not that all of this can be blamed on East Asians and Indians. In every sphere of life, competition is becoming worse.

    For example, if you look at sports (which has a light representation of these ethnic groups), there's a lot more competitiveness too these days. You have to take your kid to a strength coach at an early age and perhaps get him on a travel team. You have to show up to all your kid's games and scream at the coach to get him more playing time, so that a college scout will notice him. Sports used to be about fun, camaraderie, and after-game parties. Now sports are infested with LaVar Ball "sports dad" types who've taken all the fun out of the game - and don't let their sons go to after-game parties because they have to get up early the next day to see the strength coach.

    To be fair, less affluent Whites don't do this stuff, but they don't have much fun either. Their fun is being increasingly hindered by anti-loitering laws, strict police, and various types of public ordinances. A lot of them just stay home and watch tv or look at their smartphones.

    Summer jobs, which used to be very common for young people, have become increasingly scarce.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/FT_19.06.20_TeenSummerJobs_1.png

    https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/FT_19.06.20_TeenSummerJobs_1.png?resize=640,763

    If that weren't bad enough, you have to take on a ton of student debt if you want a college degree (which is necessary to enter the middle-class). If you don't go to college, you have to do low-wage non-union grunt work at a place like Wal Mart.

    Then there's the absolutely insane housing prices in lots of our high-growth coastal metros. How does a kid earning $50,000/yr as a "Social Media Consultant" buy into the San Francisco real estate market?

    When you think about what youth life used to be like in this country, it's really remarkable. Being a young person sucks these days.

    One of the grandsons just made it to the all state tournament championship thing this weekend. He’s staying home flat on his back Monday and Tuesday to rest. You’d think it’s a full time job. He left home 6/30 am day after Christmas to be at practice at 8/am Practice practice.

    He’s also on a starvation diet and the coach is pushing prunes and diuretics to stay below normal weight. A paid adult dancer model actor dieting it’s OK. But not a 15 year old whose not grown yet. Season’s almost over thank God. Next is track. I don’t think he’ll have to diet for track. But he loves it. I believe the dieting and hours on bus and subway hard work at practice turned him into a real masculine man like the other men of the family.

    Kids, especially boys had to go out to work 12,14. Now high school for the middle class is just a 60 hour a week ordeal with as much homework as class time. Plus all the other activities White kids have to do to get into college. Others just check black Hispanic gay crazy deranged whatever and it’s an automatic admission.

    One thing I wonder. Do the college admissions critters ever check on all those activities claimed on the applications? Harvard medical school has a new affirmative action program for gays trannies etc. Just check that box

  121. @Anon
    Coronavirus spreads via feces.

    A billion Indians who wipe their arse with bare hands.

    What could go wrong?

    Too much heat and ultraviolet light for the virus to survive?

  122. @Anon
    Anyone who's been in tech knows Subcons are the biggest chest thumping bullshit artists of the East. The ones who work for Indian outsourcing firms write spaghetti codes.

    Subcon female politicians are the most liberal socialistards, check out Kshama Sawant and Pramila Jayapal from Seattle, Saira Rao from CO.

    Here’s a way to test your hypothesis.

    If you look at foreign recipients of science&engineering PHDs, around 15% are Indian. Since PHDs do indeed represent the “best and brightest” of the world, we would expect 1/6th of H-1bs to be Indian.

    However, Indians account for 65-75% of H-1b visa recipients.

    If you do the math, that implies 75-80% of Indian H-1bs are here on the basis of ethnic networking/nepotism/fraud. Though 20-25% of Indian H-1bs are as good as the hype suggests.

    Presumably, the highly competent 20-25% get into corporate management positions, then nepotistically hire the other 75-80% to work in their corporate IT department.

    Anyone who’s been in tech knows Subcons are the biggest chest thumping bullshit artists of the East.

    The corporate world is full of bullsh*t artists. Especially if you look at who gets promoted into managements, it’s people who can talk a good game.

    I’d even say most White corporate managers are empty suit types too. However, unlike Indians, Whites have zero ethnic solidarity. So they use their BS skills to advance their personal careers, while Indian managers use their BS skills to import as many of their caste/jati/village as possible. That’s the difference.

    Whites aren’t lacking in bullsh*tting skills, but they are lacking in ethnic solidarity. That’s the reason why they’re getting screwed so badly in IT companies these days.

    Other than Jews (who are very nepotistic), Whites simply don’t have any type of group strategy. In an increasingly tribalistic America, Whites can’t remain that way and still hope to stay in the middle-class.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Just Passing Through
    Isn't the reason why so many of the H-1B visas are given out to Indians because most outsourcing companies are Indian?

    Isn't there inter-caste conflict within Indians? How do they know if the people they will get will be the same caste as them?

    I still think it is mostly Whites bringing in the cheap coolie coder labour into various countries.
    , @Anonymous
    Is the lack of ethnic solidarity amongst white Americans due to the fact that they are a big mix of practically all white nationalities and therefore white American identity has developed to not be very cohesive?

    It doesn't seem like something that applies to all whites, for instance many European nationalities seem like they have a lot of ethnic solidarity to me.
    , @indocon
    By cutting off the supply of Indian H1Bs, it will create opportunities for younger Latinos in the same way as 1924 moratorium created opportunities for Southern blacks to move north. If as it looks like Trump is going to win this year, we need to start ginning up this idea of complete immigration moratorium including sending back the current 1M H1Bs, with goal to make room for Latinos who are currently working as a barista's in Starbucks.
  123. anon[377] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    OT: I have begun to suspect that Covid-19 actually isn't any more lethal than a regular virus that's been circulating around in the population for generations. The problem is its transmission rate.

    In a normal population, if Person A gets a virus, and Person E has pre-existing medical conditions that make it likely E is going to die from it (elderly, other health issues, or is currently sick with something else), that virus still has to pass through Persons B, C, and D to get to E so it can kill E.

    But in a normal population, random amounts of Persons B, C, and D have resistance to that virus. One or more of them have had that virus in the last year or two, or may have been exposed to just enough of it to reinforce immunity, so that they never become sick enough to become a carrier. Thus the chain of transmission to Person E is halted. However, every now and then through random chance you get a B, C, and D who have low resistance, so person E gets it and dies. This sort of transmission is what makes up our normal death statistics from flu, pneumonia, and other respiratory diseases every year.

    But with Covid-19, a new virus, nobody in the population has any resistance. Therefore, we're getting almost perfect transmission to all the Person Es in a population, and they're all ending up in the hospital and large clusters of them are dying.

    So far, the death rate outside of China from Covid-19 is 1.2%, when I looked at it last night. That's not very lethal to the population as a whole, and is the sort of thing you'd see if all the Person Es are getting hit. Once the world population has had a year or two to be exposed to Covid-19 and develop immunity, the rates of transmission will likely drop to our normal yearly flu and pneumonia rates. Covid-19 might even disappear entirely if almost everybody has immunity to it. But this is without any changes in the virus from mutation.

    You need to think of the rate of transmission not so much as something inherent in the virus--all viruses try to reproduce themselves--but as a rate that is calculated based on how resistant the host population is.

    Now, if the virus mutates, this can change. But I found out something very interesting from researching the Spanish Flu. The Spanish Flu came in 3 waves. Wave 1 was mild, with a lower death rate. Wave 2, which they think may have mutated, was more virulent. But the important point is, people who were infected by Wave 1 tended to be immune to Wave 2. So people sick in the first wave were protected against the greater danger of the 2nd wave.

    Getting sick early on from Covid-19, as long as it's a mild case, may be protective against anything more dangerous from potential mutations of Covid-19 later on this year or the next year.

    As Pasteur is alleged to have said on his deathbed ”The Germ is nothing, the Terrain everything” http://www.susandoreydesigns.com/insights/pasteur-recant.html
    Old people eating glue their whole lives are going to expel the residue thru the lungs when they get the Flu, the bowel can’t adsorb the waste released into the bloodstream since the bowel wall is caked with the remains of 40,000 meals.
    What most people call the Flu is just a bad cold, real Influenza is almost as severe as pneumonia.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    "Old people eating glue their whole lives are going to expel the residue thru the lungs when they get the Flu, the bowel can’t adsorb the waste released into the bloodstream since the bowel wall is caked with the remains of 40,000 meals."


    What!?
    How many glue meals?
    Forty-four year-olds are old? If this is true, I am beyond old. Methuselah got nothing on me.
    Please check my maths. If your figures are correct, my bowel walls are completely caked with glue, and I may be already lost.
    Please advise.
    , @Hhsiii
    Pneumonia is a condition, influenza is a virus.
  124. @JohnPlywood
    There is no genetic evidence for a "Yamaya" link to Indians or IVC. The Indo-European DNA in Indians comes from haplogroup R1a (Yamnaya were all a weird clade of R1b that isn't common in Europe today). They also speak Satem languges, while Yamnaya spoke Centum. Clearly, it was a different kind of Indo European that invaded India.

    Thanks for the clarification, that’s why I devote all my media time to this website.

  125. @Malla
    Hey, why not? Bhagwan Shri Donald Trump is a God in India. He has his very own temple.

    https://www.greattelangaana.com/english/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Trump-Temple.jpg

    https://www.eturbonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/0a.jpg

    https://img.etimg.com/thumb/msid-74203511,width-640,resizemode-4,imgsize-68884/life-size-statue-of-trump.jpg

    Here we see Indians perform holy yagna (fire sacrifice) for Bhagwan Donald Trump's victory

    https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c11f0d72100006708ca739a.jpeg?ops=scalefit_630_noupscale

    https://www.storypick.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/TR-2.jpg

    https://www.thenewsminute.com/sites/default/files/styles/news_detail/public/donald_trump_prayers_PTI.jpg?itok=qYeko1SU

    Bhagwan Trump returns to the land of his devotees. Take that Democrats. For the bad karma of trying to impeach Lord Bhagwan the best they can hope for their next birth is to be reborn as cockroaches living off the rubbish from the future Baron Trump's garbage bin.

    John Nicholson also had a cult that worshiped him during the Raj .

    • Replies: @Malla
    Yeah, the Nikal Seynis who worshiped John Nicholson as a Saint. Mostly in Punjab to Afghanistan region.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    John Nicholson also had a cult that worshiped him during the Raj.
     
    He returned the favor, too:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OX7IbaAGzxk

  126. @Edward
    The Indus Valley Civilization was a pre-Aryan civilization. They were much better than the Aryans at architecture and writing, and were the first in the world to use standardized measures, wheeled transport and weighing scales; but the Aryans brought with them their religion and their farming.

    You’re correct that most of the medical, surgical and mathematical advances made in India—cataract and bladder surgery, the use of zero as a number, the decimal and numeral system, modern arithmetic, modern trigonometry (sine and cosine),the invention of negative numbers, Brahmagupta’s theorem, the discovery that quadratic equations can have two solutions—were made after the Aryans migrated to India. But I doubt the people who made those advances would be considered “white” by you if they were living today.

    And today, the darker South Indians are, on average, smarter than the lighter North Indians. Tamil Brahmins are pretty dark, and are the most accomplished group in India.

    Fields Medal winner Manjul Bhargava — whose family come from a group that used to be part of the Vaisya caste but have recently been promoted to Brahmin status — looks like this:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Manjul_Bhargava_FieldsMedal.jpg/220px-Manjul_Bhargava_FieldsMedal.jpg

    Akshay Venkatesh, another Fields Medal winner, looks like this:

    https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/4a78d33ad78390d7d80382a04e4d9571

    And today, the darker South Indians are, on average, smarter than the lighter North Indians. Tamil Brahmins are pretty dark, and are the most accomplished group in India.

    Edward,

    Please do not go by today and extrapolate it into past or future. North India bore the brunt of 1000 years of invasions. Only last 70 years are some what peaceful.

    After Independence it was felt that keeping scientific establishment/ defense research labs / nuclear facilities etc in north India will make them vulnerable to China/Pak attacks. Hence they were created in South/West. This helped South big time in creating Engineering base. When Information Technology took off, it already had that base to easily transition into IT.

    Right now north is still in take off stage. I personally think that they would easily overtake south in next 30 years. I say it as a South Indian.

  127. @Just Passing Through
    Coronavirus seems to be a mainly East Asian phenomenon.

    Also, the types of people who are on that photo will remain in India. Interestingly, South Asia is one of the regions where the desire to emigrate is quite low (8% would say they would would move permanently abroad if they had the opportunity, compared to 8% in East Asian and 33% in Sub-Saharan Africa and 27% in Latin America) obviously given the populations of these regions it still means tens of millions wanting to migrate (this question was hypothetical, in reality those who will actually manage to emigrate will be far lower)

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/245255/750-million-worldwide-migrate.aspx

    Yes, dot Indians are fine in dot India.

    We only want Twinkies and Kash Patels, thx. No public charge types like Saini.

    • Replies: @Just Passing Through
    I was looking into Indian Americans in positions of power and found this guy

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalip_Singh_Saund

    He was elected as Congressman in 1957, before the civil rights movement and before the 1965 nationalist act, so America (and California where this guy stood for election) was still overwhelmingly White. So much for racist America.
  128. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Bob Lassiter
    "but I am puzzled by the high level of support for Republicans amongst Vietnamese."

    Seems kind of simple to me. I'd say that the Vietnamese diaspora in the US are, in terms of political-economic orientation, very much like the first wave post-Castro Cuban diaspora.

    Sure, that makes sense. Ive heard the same said about venezuelans lately though less convinced.

    Id guess the average vietnamese is not particularly cognizant of the democratic party donors of the modern era close links to european communism.

    They also are not in the camp of simply lobbying for their coethnics to gain entry to the US as the sole focus of their political activism as with Indians.

  129. @JohnnyWalker123
    Here's a way to test your hypothesis.

    If you look at foreign recipients of science&engineering PHDs, around 15% are Indian. Since PHDs do indeed represent the "best and brightest" of the world, we would expect 1/6th of H-1bs to be Indian.

    However, Indians account for 65-75% of H-1b visa recipients.

    If you do the math, that implies 75-80% of Indian H-1bs are here on the basis of ethnic networking/nepotism/fraud. Though 20-25% of Indian H-1bs are as good as the hype suggests.

    Presumably, the highly competent 20-25% get into corporate management positions, then nepotistically hire the other 75-80% to work in their corporate IT department.

    Anyone who’s been in tech knows Subcons are the biggest chest thumping bullshit artists of the East.
     
    The corporate world is full of bullsh*t artists. Especially if you look at who gets promoted into managements, it's people who can talk a good game.

    I'd even say most White corporate managers are empty suit types too. However, unlike Indians, Whites have zero ethnic solidarity. So they use their BS skills to advance their personal careers, while Indian managers use their BS skills to import as many of their caste/jati/village as possible. That's the difference.

    Whites aren't lacking in bullsh*tting skills, but they are lacking in ethnic solidarity. That's the reason why they're getting screwed so badly in IT companies these days.

    Other than Jews (who are very nepotistic), Whites simply don't have any type of group strategy. In an increasingly tribalistic America, Whites can't remain that way and still hope to stay in the middle-class.

    Isn’t the reason why so many of the H-1B visas are given out to Indians because most outsourcing companies are Indian?

    Isn’t there inter-caste conflict within Indians? How do they know if the people they will get will be the same caste as them?

    I still think it is mostly Whites bringing in the cheap coolie coder labour into various countries.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Have you never seen an Indian résumé? It has the guy's photograph, marital status, high school, hobbies, religion – all kinds of shit I am sure the other Hindoos have the savvy to understand, based upon conventions and implicit proxies and correlations known among themselves, reveals the data needed to facilitate their cronyism.
    , @rec1man
    Most Indians can decode caste from first name and last name, down to sub-caste and region

    For most Indians, last name = caste name

    Reddy = Reddy caste, Telugu speaking Kulak ( big farmer )
    Patel = Patel caste , Gujarati speaking Kulak
    Chatterji, Bannerji, Mukerji = Bengali brahmin
    Sharma, Mishra, Dwivedi , Shukla, Tripathi = Hindi Brahmin
    Mahapatra = Odhisha Brahmin
    Kapoor, Khanna, Arora = Punjabi Khatri merchant
    Jain = Jain merchant
    Gupta , Agarwal = Hindi merchant
    Naidu = Naidu caste , Telugu Speaking Kulak
    Singh = Sikh or Hindu Rajput ( nobility )
    Chetty = Tamil or Telugu merchant
    Ajit Pai = Konkan Brahmin

    In Tamil Nadu, last name = caste name got dropped due to social movements
    but you can still decode
    brahmins will very unlikely keep a name like Jeyapal, or Ayyadurai
    Pramila Jeyapal = Tamil Dravidian non-brahmin
    Shiv Ayyadurai = Tamil Dravidian non-brahmin
    US Justice Sri Srinivasan = Tamil Brahmin
    Sundar Pichai = Tamil Brahmin
    Kamala Harris mother, Shyamala Gopalan = Tamil Brahmin

  130. @YetAnotherAnon
    "there is not a single Indian that looks European"

    Not in India, agreed. Maybe on the Pakistani/Afghan border, or among the Kalashas.

    https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l6ybwlMn9U1qcmed9o1_540.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/474x/72/41/57/72415753a10877c1c9b0189d8b4c1082--afghan-girl-girls-life.jpg

    Apparently, there are 5,000 of them in northern Pakistan. They’re the descendants of Alexander the Great’s soldiers. They’re like a lost tribe.

    • Replies: @Thea
    They are not descendants of Alexander the Great per genetic studies. They are very closely related to the neighboring tribes.
  131. @Desiderius
    Yes, dot Indians are fine in dot India.

    We only want Twinkies and Kash Patels, thx. No public charge types like Saini.

    I was looking into Indian Americans in positions of power and found this guy

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalip_Singh_Saund

    He was elected as Congressman in 1957, before the civil rights movement and before the 1965 nationalist act, so America (and California where this guy stood for election) was still overwhelmingly White. So much for racist America.

    • Replies: @Andy
    It's sad that Indian Americans have considerably more political power than American Indians, who have far longer roots in the US
  132. There’s something bollywood-ish about Trump. Gaudy, vulgar, garish, outlandish, excessive.

    India is nouveau riche capital of the world. Everything under the sun in mad combo.

    What priggish whites find tasteless, many Indians see as awesome.

    • Replies: @Malla
    I say, Trump is admired in India among right winged folks is because he is perceived as anti-Muslim and anti-China.
    Secondly Indians, especially youth do tend to like outspoken firebrand politicians who speak their mind.
    There was a leader of a Right winged party in the Western state of Maharashtra (the state whose capital is Mumbai or earlier Bombay) named Balasaheb Thackeray who was very outspoken who cut the crap and got to the point. Was very popular with the youth then.
    Trump is very similar and hence he is popular amongst Indian youth.
    This could also explain why Hitler is so popular in India too. Actually Balasaheb Thakaray himself was an admirer of Adolf Hitler praising the Fuhrer often.
    Well whatever good or bad you say about Indians, the Indian common man on the streets/villages is shrewd & practical and cannot be fooled by bullshit, the kind of bullshit which easily fools White libtards. I remember telling that annoying idiot poster Corvinus a long time ago on Unz, that had he spewed his multicultural leftard bullshit in a bazaar in India, the people would have burst out laughing and then dumped him in a mental institution. Indians can smell the bullshit in such dumb libtard ideas miles away and do not get easily fooled by this, a kind of earthy traditional wisdom about human nature which childish White libtards lack. And they love direct speaking politicians like Balasaheb Thackeray and Donald Trump who do not speak diplomatically.
    , @Peter Akuleyev
    What priggish whites find tasteless, many Indians see as awesome.

    Yes, Trump embodies the sorts of traditionally crass material values that Indians, blacks, Muslims and other non-Europeans see as "awesome". If "priggish whites" are defending traditional European Protestant values, I would prefer to be priggish.
  133. @Stan Adams
    OT:

    You know the Overton window has shifted considerably when legacy media outlets start running stories on Jewish-American pedophiles' fleeing to Israel:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=unPXNF1kND8

    The casual use of the phrase "Jewish-American pedophile" is significant. It would have been unthinkable just a few short years ago.

    Les Moonves, the disgraced former CBS head honcho who was MeTooed out of his job, is an enthusiastic supporter of America's Number-One Ally(R). One wonders whether he would have allowed such a piece to run.

    Compare Tampa to Miami.

  134. @Andrey illyich
    The song they play at the stadium receiving Trump was the Village People's Macho Man. The hosts were presumably uanaware this is a gay anthem.

    That song is played at Trump rallies.

  135. OT . A year or so ago I saw a video taken at some sort of tech convention . The guy shooting the video recognized and interviewed one of the attendees . They discussed the hazards of the coming 5G sh*t . The guy was quite clear that while the jury was out there were some serious questions that had to be looked into . Today I found this . I don’t know but perhaps some of you might .

    It’s an hour long so … if anyone here knows about this stuff and would care to comment that would be nice .

  136. Let’s hope The Freedom Fund – officially announced in 2014 by Slick Willie and the Clinton Global Initiative – is there teaching school children how to “migrate properly, safely and legally“, just like they do in Ethiopia.

  137. Anonymous[119] • Disclaimer says:

    Indians are scheming, dishonest Jew-like people and often anti-white. I’d rather have the Chinese as rulers than the Indians if it was a choice between the two.

    Chinese have some odd cultural quirks but are for the most part fairly honest and hard working. Indians in contrast have a much more conniving, Middle Eastern/Semite type character. They also tend to be arrogant and see certain types of work as beneath them, such as manual labour, which is a very Jew-like trait.

    • Agree: Autochthon
    • Replies: @82-IQ H1B Indian

    Indians are scheming, dishonest Jew-like people and often anti-white. I’d rather have the Chinese as rulers than the Indians if it was a choice between the two.

    Chinese have some odd cultural quirks but are for the most part fairly honest and hard working. Indians in contrast have a much more conniving, Middle Eastern/Semite type character. They also tend to be arrogant and see certain types of work as beneath them, such as manual labour, which is a very Jew-like trait.
     
    No wonder Chinese are not winning in corporate America. Don't make it too obvious Corona-chan.
    You lose all your social credit points! You need to go back to your re-education classes.
    , @DB Cooper
    "Indians are slippery, treacherous people" - Richard Nixon

    "The Indians are bastards anyway... They are the most aggressive goddamn people around." - Henry Kissinger

    "I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion." - Winston Churchill.

    , @Kaz
    So being a taxi driver or a running a convenience store in risky area is not beneath them?
  138. @Lot
    Good news from China: they got the virus licked:

    “ But there was a measure of relief for the world’s second-largest economy as more than 20 province-level jurisdictions, including Beijing and Shanghai, reported zero new infections, the best showing since the outbreak began.”

    Not a single Chinese disagrees!

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/06/14/24395660-7973915-image-m-25_1580997830824.jpg

    As long as the number of reported infections is zero, low or decreasing in places like India, Indonesia etc. isn’t it all that matters? 😉

  139. @JohnnyWalker123
    If you grew up in the 70s or even the 80s, it's absolutely shocking to see what's happening in today's America. If you want your kid to have the idyllic existence that you did and still make it into the middle or upper class, that's really not possible anymore. Even White kids (at least from affluent families) have to go to SAT prep classes, get chauffeured to endless extracurriculars, and do multiple AP classes.

    Not that all of this can be blamed on East Asians and Indians. In every sphere of life, competition is becoming worse.

    For example, if you look at sports (which has a light representation of these ethnic groups), there's a lot more competitiveness too these days. You have to take your kid to a strength coach at an early age and perhaps get him on a travel team. You have to show up to all your kid's games and scream at the coach to get him more playing time, so that a college scout will notice him. Sports used to be about fun, camaraderie, and after-game parties. Now sports are infested with LaVar Ball "sports dad" types who've taken all the fun out of the game - and don't let their sons go to after-game parties because they have to get up early the next day to see the strength coach.

    To be fair, less affluent Whites don't do this stuff, but they don't have much fun either. Their fun is being increasingly hindered by anti-loitering laws, strict police, and various types of public ordinances. A lot of them just stay home and watch tv or look at their smartphones.

    Summer jobs, which used to be very common for young people, have become increasingly scarce.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/FT_19.06.20_TeenSummerJobs_1.png

    https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/FT_19.06.20_TeenSummerJobs_1.png?resize=640,763

    If that weren't bad enough, you have to take on a ton of student debt if you want a college degree (which is necessary to enter the middle-class). If you don't go to college, you have to do low-wage non-union grunt work at a place like Wal Mart.

    Then there's the absolutely insane housing prices in lots of our high-growth coastal metros. How does a kid earning $50,000/yr as a "Social Media Consultant" buy into the San Francisco real estate market?

    When you think about what youth life used to be like in this country, it's really remarkable. Being a young person sucks these days.

    “In every sphere of life, competition is becoming worse”.

    So? That’s human biodiversity in action. Superior genes coming to the fore. Don’t we want hardened young men? Isn’t the future for those who show up for it?

    And for less affluent whites like myself, we have plenty

    As far as youth life “sucking”, you’d have to ask them en masse. Their responses may actually surprise you.

    • Replies: @Lot
    “ As far as youth life “sucking”, you’d have to ask them en masse. Their responses may actually surprise you.“

    The number of morbidly obese children, so fat they cannot even run normally, is depressing and far more common than in the 1990s and before.

    I find it hard to believe they are happy.

    https://childhoodobesityblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/morbid.jpg
    , @bomag

    So? That’s human biodiversity in action. Superior genes coming to the fore. Don’t we want hardened young men? Isn’t the future for those who show up for it?
     
    Misses the point. Quantity can be a quality, but quantity can overwhelm quality.

    And for less affluent whites like myself, we have plenty
     
    "I Know A Good One" fallacy: you could have even more; or have more stashed for the future; if we weren't burning through so much today servicing the Other.
  140. @PiltdownMan
    India has a very low migration rate, about 192 per million, and a negative net migration rate. Of course, its population is huge, at 1.4 billion, and so, the absolute number of migrants is high.

    About 1% of India's population lives outside its borders, compared to a world average of 3%.


    https://www.thehindu.com/data/emigration-from-india-rises-but-remains-relatively-low/article7677645.ece

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/03/03/india-is-a-top-source-and-destination-for-worlds-migrants/

    Interesting because there are large Indian diasporas in Africa, Southeast Asia, Caribbean and Latin America

  141. Coronavirus just might be what saves the West.

  142. @RichardTaylor
    Long ago there were a lot White people in India. All the amazing accomplishments we read about in ancient India. But over time, they mixed with the local population and turned into what they are now.

    You can still see Indians who look like Europeans but their numbers are small.

    They may have been Indo Europeans but they looked a lot more like West Asians than Norsemen.

  143. @PSR
    That seems to be one truism of Indian immigrants. They aren't after the white girl. They will marry Indian girl, have two children - first a boy, then a girl - buy a Toyota, bring parents from India to visit every August.

    That seems to be one truism of Indian immigrants. They aren’t after the white girl. They will marry Indian girl…

    The first sister of a friend dated a white South American, from Colombia or Ecuador, whom she strung along then cruelly dumped. She also dated a guy from India off-and-on who did the same to her, to marry a cousin. I forget in which order this happened.

    She ended up with a well-off white nerd from the Bay Area whose parents bit their tongues and indulged her as she was their last chance for grandchildren. They had two girls in her mid’40s. Her big sister also married late and miscarried her only child. Little brother had three, but one was killed when the family’s car got caught between two others in a road rage derby on the Interstate. Little little brother, who lost his father as a baby, has at least one child now, so that’s five grandchildren from four children.

    At least that’s an increase. The friend who introduced me to them was one of seven who had six, and her cousin was one of five who produced one of two, not counting an adoptee from a basket on a Chinese road. These two were the smartest families I’ve known, a tiebreaker who came home to the farm, and two scientists who married young.

    Dysgenesis in action. I swore I’d help make up the deficit. We’re up to three.

    • Replies: @Tony
    zzzzzz... Do we even care?
    , @bomag
    Thanks for these stories.

    I cringe when I come across a smart, earnest young woman in a corporate/bureaucratic job that sucks up her fertile years. We're doing something wrong.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    Thanks. I have a fair few female friends from college days who are (and now always will be) childless, including a couple who were real head-turners and are pretty good looking in their 50s. Not reproducing was an absolute crime against their genes.
    , @Hhsiii
    My parents had 4 kids, 9 grandkids. From 28 to 3. 5 boys. No great grandkids yet. Slackers.
  144. Anonymous[119] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Here's a way to test your hypothesis.

    If you look at foreign recipients of science&engineering PHDs, around 15% are Indian. Since PHDs do indeed represent the "best and brightest" of the world, we would expect 1/6th of H-1bs to be Indian.

    However, Indians account for 65-75% of H-1b visa recipients.

    If you do the math, that implies 75-80% of Indian H-1bs are here on the basis of ethnic networking/nepotism/fraud. Though 20-25% of Indian H-1bs are as good as the hype suggests.

    Presumably, the highly competent 20-25% get into corporate management positions, then nepotistically hire the other 75-80% to work in their corporate IT department.

    Anyone who’s been in tech knows Subcons are the biggest chest thumping bullshit artists of the East.
     
    The corporate world is full of bullsh*t artists. Especially if you look at who gets promoted into managements, it's people who can talk a good game.

    I'd even say most White corporate managers are empty suit types too. However, unlike Indians, Whites have zero ethnic solidarity. So they use their BS skills to advance their personal careers, while Indian managers use their BS skills to import as many of their caste/jati/village as possible. That's the difference.

    Whites aren't lacking in bullsh*tting skills, but they are lacking in ethnic solidarity. That's the reason why they're getting screwed so badly in IT companies these days.

    Other than Jews (who are very nepotistic), Whites simply don't have any type of group strategy. In an increasingly tribalistic America, Whites can't remain that way and still hope to stay in the middle-class.

    Is the lack of ethnic solidarity amongst white Americans due to the fact that they are a big mix of practically all white nationalities and therefore white American identity has developed to not be very cohesive?

    It doesn’t seem like something that applies to all whites, for instance many European nationalities seem like they have a lot of ethnic solidarity to me.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    No, historically Americans did have solidarity, and anyway connection to the home country was almost never consistently strong enough to be a factor. Regionalism was and is much more important: witness Texicans as opposed to Californian Mexicans. You are observing during a period of intense and unchallenged programmatic humiliation, for which the formation of a white solidarity is the very thing being staved off. We don't have white American solidarity because it is very much not allowed.
  145. @JohnnyWalker123
    Apparently, there are 5,000 of them in northern Pakistan. They're the descendants of Alexander the Great's soldiers. They're like a lost tribe.

    They are not descendants of Alexander the Great per genetic studies. They are very closely related to the neighboring tribes.

  146. India is so filthy, even coronavirus can’t survive there.

    Or maybe the cow dung and cow urine remedies are really working.

  147. • Replies: @82-IQ H1B Indian
    There are 1.35 Billion Indians. It is not difficult to find weirdos. Even in India he is seen as someone who is a mentally challenged person or a conman trying to gain publicity.

    This Trump-worshiping-man business is similar to man-bites-dog story.
  148. @Malla
    You get Caucasoid looking South Indians too especially amongst the elite castes. Like

    https://www.oneindia.com/img/2014/09/28-ashok-gajpati-raju.jpg

    Pusapati Ashok Gajapathi Raju, Indian politician and the former Union Minister for Civil Aviation of India. A scion of Royal family of Vizayanagram princely state, he is the younger son of the last Maharaja (King) of Vizianagram IN SOUTH INDIA. The Pusapatis are the descendants of Pericchedis, the ancient ruling clan of Andhra Pradesh, SOUTH INDIA. Paricchedis were staunch patrons of Hindu Dharma in contrast to the Chalukyas, who initially were patrons of Jainism.

    Even the whitest of Indians still seem to identify very much as brown people and would probably take offence at being called white, sames goes for white Latin Americans.

    Just goes to show that racial identity is more about culture than it is about genetics.

    • Agree: Malla
    • Replies: @Autochthon
    The offence is feigned, you goof; it's to ensure the cash and prizes afforded to them as ostensible victims. Among their own, they cannot marry a woman with light enough skin, get into a community or school segregated enough from the Dravidians and indios, and so on.

    It's another variation on all the descendants of Mexicans who can not speak a word of Spanish, are embarrassed when their grandparents do, wouldn't be caught dead dating an indio or even a mestizo, but they damn sure check that "Hispanic or Latino" box whenever they apply for a job, because, damn it, their surnames end in a z so they deserve Cash & Prizes for being "Latinx."
    , @PiltdownMan

    would probably take offence at being called white,
     
    I daresay they'd be secretly pleased and flattered for being mistaken for being white. As Mr. Sailer has pointed out, being light-skinned seems to be highly prized in India, as in Latin America.
  149. @PSR
    That seems to be one truism of Indian immigrants. They aren't after the white girl. They will marry Indian girl, have two children - first a boy, then a girl - buy a Toyota, bring parents from India to visit every August.

    More like they’ll marry an Indian spouse from back home, of the right caste, as arranged by the parents. And the parents are no longer just “visiting”. All the builders in our area are building homes with finished basements, because the people now buying these homes – Indians and Chinese, are all bringing the parents over to live/babysit/collect social security.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    You can’t get social security baby sitting your grandchildren even if paid to do so. One clever part of the tax code. You have to come up with some other scam.

    My wife, from Latvia, doesn’t want her mom living with us, so I pay for a one bedroom for her in Brighton Beach. Long baby sitting commute for her but she likes being near Eastern Europeans. And she’s not in social security.
  150. OT

    Wow, the US stock market sure took Harvey Weinstein’s conviction hard! Who saw that coming?

  151. @Just Passing Through
    That's where you are wrong kiddo

    https://www.8asians.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/AALDEF_2012_AA_voting_by_enthnicity.png

    https://www.8asians.com/2013/02/05/aaldef-asian-american-vote-in-2012-varied-by-ethnic-group-and-geographic-location/

    Interestingly, despite Chinese and Indian being the richest ethnic group in America, they both skew heavily towards Dems.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income


    I know a lot of Filipinos are Christian so that explains the relatively high level of support for the GOP amongst that cohort, but I am puzzled by the high level of support for Republicans amongst Vietnamese.

    Vietnam War. A lot of Vietnamese-Americans had family members who fought on our side, and it was the GOP that wanted to win and Dems that wanted to quit.

    There are all these weird little anomalies, most explained by history–Russian Jews tend to vote Republican because they didn’t like socialism in the USSR:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/bernie-sanders-trump-russians/477045/

  152. @Malla
    You get Caucasoid looking South Indians too especially amongst the elite castes. Like

    https://www.oneindia.com/img/2014/09/28-ashok-gajpati-raju.jpg

    Pusapati Ashok Gajapathi Raju, Indian politician and the former Union Minister for Civil Aviation of India. A scion of Royal family of Vizayanagram princely state, he is the younger son of the last Maharaja (King) of Vizianagram IN SOUTH INDIA. The Pusapatis are the descendants of Pericchedis, the ancient ruling clan of Andhra Pradesh, SOUTH INDIA. Paricchedis were staunch patrons of Hindu Dharma in contrast to the Chalukyas, who initially were patrons of Jainism.

    I had the impression that most royals in India descended from Persians, Moghuls or Pathans.

    • Replies: @Malla
    Not Hindu royals. Not most of them anyways. Muslim Royals, yes, substantial Persian/Mughal/Pathan ancestry. Many Hindu Royals survived the Islamic and Colonial era as rulers, in many cases as rulers under an Islamic overlord or with alliance with the British. The royals could not survive as rulers in post 1947 Republic India.
  153. @JohnnyWalker123
    If you grew up in the 70s or even the 80s, it's absolutely shocking to see what's happening in today's America. If you want your kid to have the idyllic existence that you did and still make it into the middle or upper class, that's really not possible anymore. Even White kids (at least from affluent families) have to go to SAT prep classes, get chauffeured to endless extracurriculars, and do multiple AP classes.

    Not that all of this can be blamed on East Asians and Indians. In every sphere of life, competition is becoming worse.

    For example, if you look at sports (which has a light representation of these ethnic groups), there's a lot more competitiveness too these days. You have to take your kid to a strength coach at an early age and perhaps get him on a travel team. You have to show up to all your kid's games and scream at the coach to get him more playing time, so that a college scout will notice him. Sports used to be about fun, camaraderie, and after-game parties. Now sports are infested with LaVar Ball "sports dad" types who've taken all the fun out of the game - and don't let their sons go to after-game parties because they have to get up early the next day to see the strength coach.

    To be fair, less affluent Whites don't do this stuff, but they don't have much fun either. Their fun is being increasingly hindered by anti-loitering laws, strict police, and various types of public ordinances. A lot of them just stay home and watch tv or look at their smartphones.

    Summer jobs, which used to be very common for young people, have become increasingly scarce.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/FT_19.06.20_TeenSummerJobs_1.png

    https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/FT_19.06.20_TeenSummerJobs_1.png?resize=640,763

    If that weren't bad enough, you have to take on a ton of student debt if you want a college degree (which is necessary to enter the middle-class). If you don't go to college, you have to do low-wage non-union grunt work at a place like Wal Mart.

    Then there's the absolutely insane housing prices in lots of our high-growth coastal metros. How does a kid earning $50,000/yr as a "Social Media Consultant" buy into the San Francisco real estate market?

    When you think about what youth life used to be like in this country, it's really remarkable. Being a young person sucks these days.

    Ctrl + F + “overpop*” = { }

    • Agree: JohnnyWalker123, bomag
  154. @JohnnyWalker123
    If you grew up in the 70s or even the 80s, it's absolutely shocking to see what's happening in today's America. If you want your kid to have the idyllic existence that you did and still make it into the middle or upper class, that's really not possible anymore. Even White kids (at least from affluent families) have to go to SAT prep classes, get chauffeured to endless extracurriculars, and do multiple AP classes.

    Not that all of this can be blamed on East Asians and Indians. In every sphere of life, competition is becoming worse.

    For example, if you look at sports (which has a light representation of these ethnic groups), there's a lot more competitiveness too these days. You have to take your kid to a strength coach at an early age and perhaps get him on a travel team. You have to show up to all your kid's games and scream at the coach to get him more playing time, so that a college scout will notice him. Sports used to be about fun, camaraderie, and after-game parties. Now sports are infested with LaVar Ball "sports dad" types who've taken all the fun out of the game - and don't let their sons go to after-game parties because they have to get up early the next day to see the strength coach.

    To be fair, less affluent Whites don't do this stuff, but they don't have much fun either. Their fun is being increasingly hindered by anti-loitering laws, strict police, and various types of public ordinances. A lot of them just stay home and watch tv or look at their smartphones.

    Summer jobs, which used to be very common for young people, have become increasingly scarce.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/FT_19.06.20_TeenSummerJobs_1.png

    https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/FT_19.06.20_TeenSummerJobs_1.png?resize=640,763

    If that weren't bad enough, you have to take on a ton of student debt if you want a college degree (which is necessary to enter the middle-class). If you don't go to college, you have to do low-wage non-union grunt work at a place like Wal Mart.

    Then there's the absolutely insane housing prices in lots of our high-growth coastal metros. How does a kid earning $50,000/yr as a "Social Media Consultant" buy into the San Francisco real estate market?

    When you think about what youth life used to be like in this country, it's really remarkable. Being a young person sucks these days.

    I’m 28 so I just eeked by this past decade into success. From my experience, you don’t need to cram, you don’t need to do a ton of extra curriculars, getting into a good university isn’t that hard.

    Just don’t worry about the Ivy Leagues, there is a life outside th em.. Most public universities have good feeder programs with big corporations.

    I’ll say in most states there are cheap public universities if you’re caught in that trap of being too rich for aid but not rich enough to hand waive away expensive tuition fees.

    People should be at all times, unless they qualify for a ton of scholarships/financial aid, pushed towards these schools. If your state has high in-state tuition fees then go to community college for the first year or two get your core bs classes out of the way and transfer to your flagship state university.

    This way you can graduate with minimal/manageable debt.

    Then, stay the hell out of tier 1 cities like San Francisco, NYC, LA, etc.. if you want to buy a house someday and if you’re not making high finance/programmer money.

    You can easily hit 100k+ year before you hit 30 with just an undergrad degree in many cheap metros in the US.

    The downside of this is that a lot of liberals are starting to move down south and bring their toxic mentalities that made their home states so unlivable in the first place.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
  155. @Just Passing Through
    Isn't the reason why so many of the H-1B visas are given out to Indians because most outsourcing companies are Indian?

    Isn't there inter-caste conflict within Indians? How do they know if the people they will get will be the same caste as them?

    I still think it is mostly Whites bringing in the cheap coolie coder labour into various countries.

    Have you never seen an Indian résumé? It has the guy’s photograph, marital status, high school, hobbies, religion – all kinds of shit I am sure the other Hindoos have the savvy to understand, based upon conventions and implicit proxies and correlations known among themselves, reveals the data needed to facilitate their cronyism.

  156. @Just Passing Through
    I don't know where you read this stuff, but the only 'White' people who invaded India were the British, and even that wasn't a proper invasion.

    The 'Aryans' who came into India looked more like light-skinned Iranians than 'White' (the latter of which conjured up images of Northern Europeans in most people's minds.

    There is not a single Indian that looks European, as they are Caucasians, they will have European facial features, but they will not be European looking.

    The Taj Mahal was built in 1653 by Persian architects, Persians allegedly gave an IQ of 84 which puts them a tad above Indians who are alleged to have an IQ of 82.

    The ancient 'Aryans' who migrated into India didn't look like the Aryans most White people imagine when they hear the term (blue-eyes and blond(e) hair)

    Whites have a long list of achievements, I don't get why some people have to start doing this 'We wuz Hindoos n shieet' gig.

    you are wrong its old news already

    the people who conquered india were andronovo people genetically identical to north euros , lazaridis the famous harvard profesor that lead the research reconized it long ago ,indian admixture is steppe mlba in other words european

    http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2018/04/on-doorstep-of-india.html

  157. @JohnnyWalker123
    Here's a way to test your hypothesis.

    If you look at foreign recipients of science&engineering PHDs, around 15% are Indian. Since PHDs do indeed represent the "best and brightest" of the world, we would expect 1/6th of H-1bs to be Indian.

    However, Indians account for 65-75% of H-1b visa recipients.

    If you do the math, that implies 75-80% of Indian H-1bs are here on the basis of ethnic networking/nepotism/fraud. Though 20-25% of Indian H-1bs are as good as the hype suggests.

    Presumably, the highly competent 20-25% get into corporate management positions, then nepotistically hire the other 75-80% to work in their corporate IT department.

    Anyone who’s been in tech knows Subcons are the biggest chest thumping bullshit artists of the East.
     
    The corporate world is full of bullsh*t artists. Especially if you look at who gets promoted into managements, it's people who can talk a good game.

    I'd even say most White corporate managers are empty suit types too. However, unlike Indians, Whites have zero ethnic solidarity. So they use their BS skills to advance their personal careers, while Indian managers use their BS skills to import as many of their caste/jati/village as possible. That's the difference.

    Whites aren't lacking in bullsh*tting skills, but they are lacking in ethnic solidarity. That's the reason why they're getting screwed so badly in IT companies these days.

    Other than Jews (who are very nepotistic), Whites simply don't have any type of group strategy. In an increasingly tribalistic America, Whites can't remain that way and still hope to stay in the middle-class.

    By cutting off the supply of Indian H1Bs, it will create opportunities for younger Latinos in the same way as 1924 moratorium created opportunities for Southern blacks to move north. If as it looks like Trump is going to win this year, we need to start ginning up this idea of complete immigration moratorium including sending back the current 1M H1Bs, with goal to make room for Latinos who are currently working as a barista’s in Starbucks.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    You are right plugging the damn holes and bailing the damn water, but, as bad as pajeet tech support is at its worst, it's not competing with Rigoberta Menchu's people.
  158. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1232064862668361739

    There are 1.35 Billion Indians. It is not difficult to find weirdos. Even in India he is seen as someone who is a mentally challenged person or a conman trying to gain publicity.

    This Trump-worshiping-man business is similar to man-bites-dog story.

  159. @Anonymous
    Even the whitest of Indians still seem to identify very much as brown people and would probably take offence at being called white, sames goes for white Latin Americans.

    Just goes to show that racial identity is more about culture than it is about genetics.

    The offence is feigned, you goof; it’s to ensure the cash and prizes afforded to them as ostensible victims. Among their own, they cannot marry a woman with light enough skin, get into a community or school segregated enough from the Dravidians and indios, and so on.

    It’s another variation on all the descendants of Mexicans who can not speak a word of Spanish, are embarrassed when their grandparents do, wouldn’t be caught dead dating an indio or even a mestizo, but they damn sure check that “Hispanic or Latino” box whenever they apply for a job, because, damn it, their surnames end in a z so they deserve Cash & Prizes for being “Latinx.”

  160. @ATBOTL
    Jack gets it, he wants to see white people replaced. He will tell lies like "Indians oppose socialism" to try to make whites apathetic about Indian migration. That's why he is here, to run interference and to inject neocon talking points into our conservation.

    Indeed.

    Jack gets paid high dollar to “run interference” among the movers and shakers who might otherwise be informed by your Brave Truths.

    Which is why White Patriots have hired me to remind you gentle readers what a nusaince Jews can be.

    It’s less intellectually hardy than the efforts of my uncle Jack but, I believe, more effective.

  161. @RichardTaylor
    Long ago there were a lot White people in India. All the amazing accomplishments we read about in ancient India. But over time, they mixed with the local population and turned into what they are now.

    You can still see Indians who look like Europeans but their numbers are small.

    The Buddha had blue eyes according to all the original reports. Sounds pretty Indo-European.

    • Replies: @Just Passing Through
    Pretty sure the Buddha was the one who preached equality and all that, that in itself lends itself to the theory that Buddha was a naive Nordic.
  162. @El Dato
    There will probably be harsh words exchanged to push Raytheon goods, too.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/481091-us-india-first-foreign-policy/

    On the economic front, India has come under fire from Trump’s global trade war. The US president dubbed India the “king” of tariffs and withdrew New Delhi’s special trade privileges last year, affecting some $5 billion worth of Indian goods. The move sparked a tit-for-tat response from India, which raised tariffs on 28 American products.

    Washington has further sought to prevent India from doing business with Iran and Russia, a stance which undermines India’s energy and security interests. Meanwhile, New Delhi continues to brush off threats of US sanctions for its decision to purchase Russian S-400 anti-air systems.
     
    Also, Crackers Graham appears, and the US is told to mind its own business:

    India’s Foreign Minister Dr. Subrahmanyam Jaishankar is one of the chief architects of these policies, yet few have picked up on the hints he’s dropped on the doorsteps of Europe and the US.

    Jaishankar’s exchanged the life of a diplomat with that of a politician at the insistence of Modi last May. Just a few short months later, India had rewired [that's a nice wording] the state of Jammu and Kashmir, and Dr. Jaishankar has been shooting from the hip since.

    When US Senator Lindsey Graham appealed for a “democratic” resolution to the Kashmir crisis during the recently-concluded Munich Security Conference, Jaishankar fired back with a fitting retort.

    “Do not worry, senator. One democracy will settle it and you know which one,” he told the South Carolina Republican.
     

    Ouch! Call the burn ward!

  163. It is probable that Trump sees that both India and Americas face the same existential threat from China. Therefore, a strategic realignment is ongoing as we can observe. From India southeast to Australia, and then north up the island chain to Japan. China blocked irregardless of BRI.

    This is why Trump will not object to doubling Indian work permits as proposed by Sen, Mike Lee, even though his base might find it disconcerting.

    This also has the effect of severing one of the Dems prized minority groups from their supposed lock.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Indians in India make public statememts about liking Trump. Indians in the US are woke leftists who find the Democrats to be too slow to stamp out signs of white pride. Indians in India can make statues. Indians in the US can vote and take over bureaucracies. The deep state flunky who appeared with his own name and undisguised face in an NYT interview boasting about committing sedition was an Indian.
  164. @Just Passing Through
    That particular group migrated to the subcontinent around the year 200 to 400. Long after the time period known as 'ancient India' had passed. And long after the Aryan invasion.

    It represents one of many Indo European and Indo Aryan migrations in to India, which greatly influenced Indian culture. There wasn’t just one invasion of satem-speaking pastoralist nomads in to India. Besides, many of these groups were descended from the same people that first migrated to subcon (Andronovo/Sintashta).

  165. Indians might love Trump, but they don’t for him here in the USA. 14% for Trump in 2016!

  166. @Anonymous
    Is the lack of ethnic solidarity amongst white Americans due to the fact that they are a big mix of practically all white nationalities and therefore white American identity has developed to not be very cohesive?

    It doesn't seem like something that applies to all whites, for instance many European nationalities seem like they have a lot of ethnic solidarity to me.

    No, historically Americans did have solidarity, and anyway connection to the home country was almost never consistently strong enough to be a factor. Regionalism was and is much more important: witness Texicans as opposed to Californian Mexicans. You are observing during a period of intense and unchallenged programmatic humiliation, for which the formation of a white solidarity is the very thing being staved off. We don’t have white American solidarity because it is very much not allowed.

  167. @Just Passing Through
    That particular group migrated to the subcontinent around the year 200 to 400. Long after the time period known as 'ancient India' had passed. And long after the Aryan invasion.

    New research (Prof. Wietzel, Prof.Parpola etc…) push back the Scythian invasion/ migration date back to 800 BC.

  168. @RJJCDA
    It is probable that Trump sees that both India and Americas face the same existential threat from China. Therefore, a strategic realignment is ongoing as we can observe. From India southeast to Australia, and then north up the island chain to Japan. China blocked irregardless of BRI.

    This is why Trump will not object to doubling Indian work permits as proposed by Sen, Mike Lee, even though his base might find it disconcerting.

    This also has the effect of severing one of the Dems prized minority groups from their supposed lock.

    Indians in India make public statememts about liking Trump. Indians in the US are woke leftists who find the Democrats to be too slow to stamp out signs of white pride. Indians in India can make statues. Indians in the US can vote and take over bureaucracies. The deep state flunky who appeared with his own name and undisguised face in an NYT interview boasting about committing sedition was an Indian.

  169. @BB753
    I had the impression that most royals in India descended from Persians, Moghuls or Pathans.

    Not Hindu royals. Not most of them anyways. Muslim Royals, yes, substantial Persian/Mughal/Pathan ancestry. Many Hindu Royals survived the Islamic and Colonial era as rulers, in many cases as rulers under an Islamic overlord or with alliance with the British. The royals could not survive as rulers in post 1947 Republic India.

    • Thanks: BB753
  170. @Just Passing Through
    I was looking into Indian Americans in positions of power and found this guy

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalip_Singh_Saund

    He was elected as Congressman in 1957, before the civil rights movement and before the 1965 nationalist act, so America (and California where this guy stood for election) was still overwhelmingly White. So much for racist America.

    It’s sad that Indian Americans have considerably more political power than American Indians, who have far longer roots in the US

    • Replies: @bomag
    American Indian political leadership is pretty dismal.
  171. @indocon
    By cutting off the supply of Indian H1Bs, it will create opportunities for younger Latinos in the same way as 1924 moratorium created opportunities for Southern blacks to move north. If as it looks like Trump is going to win this year, we need to start ginning up this idea of complete immigration moratorium including sending back the current 1M H1Bs, with goal to make room for Latinos who are currently working as a barista's in Starbucks.

    You are right plugging the damn holes and bailing the damn water, but, as bad as pajeet tech support is at its worst, it’s not competing with Rigoberta Menchu’s people.

  172. Just gonna leave this here..

  173. @Reg Cæsar

    ...but I am puzzled by the high level of support for Republicans amongst Vietnamese.
     
    We fought a war for them. The Dems started it, but they betrayed. The GOP hasn't apologized, and there is no reason why they should.

    Plus, the Vietnamese here, like the Cubans, are self-sufficient. Geopolitics had the Hmong voting GOP at first, but they were so poor, the Dems-- the DFL, as in Bruce Vento-- could easily buy their support, as did FDR with blacks fifty years earlier.

    Geopolitics had the Hmong voting GOP at first, but they were so poor, the Dems– the DFL, as in Bruce Vento– could easily buy their support, as did FDR with blacks fifty years earlier.

    Got that right. It was fait accompli for FDR to get their votes after Hoover reneged on his promises following the 1927 Mississippi River floods.

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/after-the-deluge-111555373/

  174. @The Alarmist
    It's a shame they don't have a lit sacred orb upon which Sri Trump can lay his blessed hands.

    All glories to Sri Trump!

    All glories to Sri Trump!

    As they say in India, “Jai Shri Trump!!!”

  175. @Reg Cæsar

    That seems to be one truism of Indian immigrants. They aren’t after the white girl. They will marry Indian girl...
     
    The first sister of a friend dated a white South American, from Colombia or Ecuador, whom she strung along then cruelly dumped. She also dated a guy from India off-and-on who did the same to her, to marry a cousin. I forget in which order this happened.

    She ended up with a well-off white nerd from the Bay Area whose parents bit their tongues and indulged her as she was their last chance for grandchildren. They had two girls in her mid'40s. Her big sister also married late and miscarried her only child. Little brother had three, but one was killed when the family's car got caught between two others in a road rage derby on the Interstate. Little little brother, who lost his father as a baby, has at least one child now, so that's five grandchildren from four children.

    At least that's an increase. The friend who introduced me to them was one of seven who had six, and her cousin was one of five who produced one of two, not counting an adoptee from a basket on a Chinese road. These two were the smartest families I've known, a tiebreaker who came home to the farm, and two scientists who married young.

    Dysgenesis in action. I swore I'd help make up the deficit. We're up to three.

    zzzzzz… Do we even care?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    zzzzzz… Do we even care?

     

    Demographics plays out one family at a time. We'd better care.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBvIweCIgwk
  176. @Reg Cæsar
    https://miro.medium.com/max/3200/1*PMl7qVz_6sxB69e3kAopFg.jpeg

    • Absolutely Fabulous!

  177. @The Wild Geese Howard
    *sigh*

    The three Italians that passed away were 80, 84, and 88.

    One had already been hospitalized for a heart attack. Another had, "...other pathologies..."

    https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ansa.it%2Fcanale_saluteebenessere%2Fnotizie%2Fsanita%2F2020%2F02%2F24%2Fcoronavirus-_60aae600-8535-44d9-86de-48c4b71478ef.html

    My larger point is that, for different reasons, neither Chinese nor Anglo sources can be relied upon.

    My larger point is that, for different reasons, neither Chinese nor Anglo sources can be relied upon.

    You are absolutely right, of course. In fact, they shouldn’t be relied upon for much of anything.

    The Bangkok Post and Al-Jazeera had good reporting on Corona-Chan for several weeks now, but lately both have slipped and I’m somewhat bereft.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    BNO News out of the Netherlands has been doing pretty well tracking Corona-Chan lately:

    https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/
  178. @Jack D
    Not only that, but from places like Guatemala we get the poorest of the poor who will be burdens on our social welfare system unto the 7th generation whereas India tends to send us skilled workers who are net positive taxpayers. (In India, the poorest of the poor are too poor even to travel). I realize folks here don't like immigrants period but there really is a difference between various immigrant groups. The Indians are not the ones who are going to be voting for socialismo.

    You sure must have different sorts of Indians where you’re from. Medicare fraud and vote Dem.

  179. @donut
    John Nicholson also had a cult that worshiped him during the Raj .

    Yeah, the Nikal Seynis who worshiped John Nicholson as a Saint. Mostly in Punjab to Afghanistan region.

  180. @Just Passing Through
    Both East Asians and Indians vote heavily for Democrat. It is puzzling because both groups are on average richer than Whites and don't qualify for affirmative action like Hispanics and Blacks. Indians after all come under the category of 'Asian' and in fact seem to do very well in SATs and whatnot.

    I doubt Dems would care about Asians and wouldn't hesitate taking away their wealth to redistribute to Blacks.


    13 CFR (Code of Federal Regulations)
    § 124.103 Who is socially disadvantaged?

    (a) General. Socially disadvantaged individuals are those who have been subjected to racial or ethnic prejudice or cultural bias within American society because of their identities as members of groups and without regard to their individual qualities. The social disadvantage must stem from circumstances beyond their control.

    (b) Members of designated groups.

    (1) There is a rebuttable presumption that the following individuals are socially disadvantaged: Black Americans; Hispanic Americans; Native Americans (Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians, or enrolled members of a Federally or State recognized Indian Tribe); Asian Pacific Americans (persons with origins from Burma, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Brunei, Japan, China (including Hong Kong), Taiwan, Laos, Cambodia (Kampuchea), Vietnam, Korea, The Philippines, U.S. Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands (Republic of Palau), Republic of the Marshall Islands, Federated States of Micronesia, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, Guam, Samoa, Macao, Fiji, Tonga, Kiribati, Tuvalu, or Nauru); Subcontinent Asian Americans (persons with origins from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, the Maldives Islands or Nepal); and members of other groups designated from time to time by SBA according to procedures set forth at paragraph (d) of this section.

    • Replies: @82-IQ H1B Indian

    There is a rebuttable presumption that the following individuals are socially disadvantaged: Black Americans; Hispanic Americans; Native Americans (Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians, or enrolled members of a Federally or State recognized Indian Tribe); Asian Pacific Americans (persons with origins from Burma, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Brunei, Japan, China (including Hong Kong), Taiwan, Laos, Cambodia (Kampuchea), Vietnam, Korea, The Philippines, U.S. Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands (Republic of Palau), Republic of the Marshall Islands, Federated States of Micronesia, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, Guam, Samoa, Macao, Fiji, Tonga, Kiribati, Tuvalu, or Nauru); Subcontinent Asian Americans (persons with origins from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, the Maldives Islands or Nepal); and members of other groups designated from time to time by SBA according to procedures set forth at paragraph (d) of this section.
     
    This is a travesty. Clearly written to include everyone except whites. Should be thrown into a dustbin.
  181. @Just Passing Through
    I don't know where you read this stuff, but the only 'White' people who invaded India were the British, and even that wasn't a proper invasion.

    The 'Aryans' who came into India looked more like light-skinned Iranians than 'White' (the latter of which conjured up images of Northern Europeans in most people's minds.

    There is not a single Indian that looks European, as they are Caucasians, they will have European facial features, but they will not be European looking.

    The Taj Mahal was built in 1653 by Persian architects, Persians allegedly gave an IQ of 84 which puts them a tad above Indians who are alleged to have an IQ of 82.

    The ancient 'Aryans' who migrated into India didn't look like the Aryans most White people imagine when they hear the term (blue-eyes and blond(e) hair)

    Whites have a long list of achievements, I don't get why some people have to start doing this 'We wuz Hindoos n shieet' gig.

    The ancient ‘Aryans’ who migrated into India didn’t look like the Aryans most White people imagine when they hear the term (blue-eyes and blond(e) hair)

    This may be true although they say the Buddha had blue eyes. But lots of White people – or shall we just say Indo-Europeans – don’t have blonde hair and blue eyes. But they stem from common ancestors.

    Whites have a long list of achievements, I don’t get why some people have to start doing this ‘We wuz Hindoos n shieet’ gig.

    It matters because if White people – or Aryans – or Indo-Europeans – or Yamnaya- or whatever new name we create for them – actually gave India it’s amazing accomplishments in the past but were sadly drowned in the larger Brown population leading to a couple of millennia of suffering, well, we don’t want to repeat that mistake, do we?

  182. @Anonymous
    Even the whitest of Indians still seem to identify very much as brown people and would probably take offence at being called white, sames goes for white Latin Americans.

    Just goes to show that racial identity is more about culture than it is about genetics.

    would probably take offence at being called white,

    I daresay they’d be secretly pleased and flattered for being mistaken for being white. As Mr. Sailer has pointed out, being light-skinned seems to be highly prized in India, as in Latin America.

    • Agree: RichardTaylor
    • Replies: @RichardTaylor

    I daresay they’d be secretly pleased and flattered for being mistaken for being white.
     
    Indians are obsessed with having light skin.

    https://brightthemag.com/fair-but-not-so-lovely-indias-obsession-with-skin-whitening-beauty-body-image-bleaching-4d6ba9c9743d

    As new genetic techniques become available, will Indians use them to make sure their children have the non-White admixture removed?
    , @Malla
    Indians (and many other brown races) may prefer light skin but no Indian considers himself White or even black. We are brown.
  183. @Anon
    Somewhat OT: CEOs Keep 1 Million Indian Graduates in U.S. Jobs, Legally

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/02/17/ceos-keep-1-million-indian-graduates-in-u-s-jobs-legally/

    We need to make it illegal to discriminate against our own citizens, because that's what's happening in many workplaces. Our own people should get first priority. Native US citizens are being nepotismed out of jobs.

    "The Indian labor force is so large that many American graduates now work in Indian-run offices throughout corporate America, and especially in Silicon Valley. In those offices, the mass of Indian workers and managers has pushed out many Americans, has replaced U.S. professionalism with Indian-style workplace politics of caste and ethnic alliances, deference to managers, blame-shifting, kickbacks, and hostility to outsiders, according to numerous reports and lawsuits, as well as statements by Indian participants and by U.S. witnesses to Breitbart News."

    "Americans get screened out from jobs even before the interview process, he said. “I know at one point there was a woman that was an Indian woman who was in the human resources department. … She was sorting through the resumes and all we got … was resumes from India.”

    We need to make it illegal to discriminate against our own citizens, because that’s what’s happening in many workplaces. Our own people should get first priority. Native US citizens are being nepotismed out of jobs.

    Keep dreaming.

    Native-born heritage Americans are just tax sheep to be shorn to supply gibs for everyone else.

  184. @PiltdownMan

    would probably take offence at being called white,
     
    I daresay they'd be secretly pleased and flattered for being mistaken for being white. As Mr. Sailer has pointed out, being light-skinned seems to be highly prized in India, as in Latin America.

    I daresay they’d be secretly pleased and flattered for being mistaken for being white.

    Indians are obsessed with having light skin.

    https://brightthemag.com/fair-but-not-so-lovely-indias-obsession-with-skin-whitening-beauty-body-image-bleaching-4d6ba9c9743d

    As new genetic techniques become available, will Indians use them to make sure their children have the non-White admixture removed?

  185. @Mr McKenna

    My larger point is that, for different reasons, neither Chinese nor Anglo sources can be relied upon.
     
    You are absolutely right, of course. In fact, they shouldn't be relied upon for much of anything.

    The Bangkok Post and Al-Jazeera had good reporting on Corona-Chan for several weeks now, but lately both have slipped and I'm somewhat bereft.

    BNO News out of the Netherlands has been doing pretty well tracking Corona-Chan lately:

    https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

  186. Jihadist stabbing attack in Brisbane, Australia, yesterday. Mainstream news: DONALD TRUMP USED THE WRONG FORK AT LUNCHEON.
    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/brisbane-stabber-was-on-counter-terror-list-police-reveal/ar-BB10hlXW

  187. anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    As Pasteur is alleged to have said on his deathbed ''The Germ is nothing, the Terrain everything'' http://www.susandoreydesigns.com/insights/pasteur-recant.html
    Old people eating glue their whole lives are going to expel the residue thru the lungs when they get the Flu, the bowel can't adsorb the waste released into the bloodstream since the bowel wall is caked with the remains of 40,000 meals.
    What most people call the Flu is just a bad cold, real Influenza is almost as severe as pneumonia.

    “Old people eating glue their whole lives are going to expel the residue thru the lungs when they get the Flu, the bowel can’t adsorb the waste released into the bloodstream since the bowel wall is caked with the remains of 40,000 meals.”

    What!?
    How many glue meals?
    Forty-four year-olds are old? If this is true, I am beyond old. Methuselah got nothing on me.
    Please check my maths. If your figures are correct, my bowel walls are completely caked with glue, and I may be already lost.
    Please advise.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    This is indeed a case for the "WTF" reaction to be added to Unz fora.
    , @anon
    Sounds like you're dividing 40,000 by 365 x 3 to get your answer.
    A little reflection might tell you that no one eats 3 meals every day and in China and South Asia it's more likely to be 1 per day, largely rice or wheat based.
  188. @Alice
    Back here in the purple state of NC and soon to be purple Texas, Indians are civic minded, running for local and increasingly state and federal offices. This is a huge win for his re election campaign.

    I don't believe more indian immigration is good for the US. Caste systems in our tech workplaces are a disaster, where whites unintentionally put lower caste managers over higher caste engineers, until such time as the Indians are able to assemble their own caste into a unit, which doesnt so anything because they lower castes than they do work. Worse Indians seem to have no values deeper than consumption. but better Indians than Somalis. and better India to help puah back against China's belt and road.

    “Indians are civic minded, running for local and increasingly state and federal offices”

    That’s not civic mindedness. It’s just grabbing for power.

    • Agree: bomag
  189. Aussie soldiers warned they will be kicked out if caught making hand gestures declared by the ADL to be white supremacist. Includes illustration of one such career ending dangerous hand gesture.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-19/army-crackdown-white-supremacy-gestures/11975638

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Good catch.

    White people should be careful about breathing, too. I've heard that breathing is absolutely redolent of Privilege and Supremacy, at least when white people do it.

    No problem with this, though:

    https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160507172807-west-point-female-cadets-exlarge-169.jpg

    "The official inquiry concluded the photograph did not violate any Army or Department of Defense regulations and was only intended to demonstrate unity and pride."

  190. @Anonymous
    Indians are scheming, dishonest Jew-like people and often anti-white. I'd rather have the Chinese as rulers than the Indians if it was a choice between the two.

    Chinese have some odd cultural quirks but are for the most part fairly honest and hard working. Indians in contrast have a much more conniving, Middle Eastern/Semite type character. They also tend to be arrogant and see certain types of work as beneath them, such as manual labour, which is a very Jew-like trait.

    Indians are scheming, dishonest Jew-like people and often anti-white. I’d rather have the Chinese as rulers than the Indians if it was a choice between the two.

    Chinese have some odd cultural quirks but are for the most part fairly honest and hard working. Indians in contrast have a much more conniving, Middle Eastern/Semite type character. They also tend to be arrogant and see certain types of work as beneath them, such as manual labour, which is a very Jew-like trait.

    No wonder Chinese are not winning in corporate America. Don’t make it too obvious Corona-chan.
    You lose all your social credit points! You need to go back to your re-education classes.

  191. @anon
    As Pasteur is alleged to have said on his deathbed ''The Germ is nothing, the Terrain everything'' http://www.susandoreydesigns.com/insights/pasteur-recant.html
    Old people eating glue their whole lives are going to expel the residue thru the lungs when they get the Flu, the bowel can't adsorb the waste released into the bloodstream since the bowel wall is caked with the remains of 40,000 meals.
    What most people call the Flu is just a bad cold, real Influenza is almost as severe as pneumonia.

    Pneumonia is a condition, influenza is a virus.

  192. @Mr McKenna


    13 CFR (Code of Federal Regulations)
    § 124.103 Who is socially disadvantaged?

    (a) General. Socially disadvantaged individuals are those who have been subjected to racial or ethnic prejudice or cultural bias within American society because of their identities as members of groups and without regard to their individual qualities. The social disadvantage must stem from circumstances beyond their control.

    (b) Members of designated groups.

    (1) There is a rebuttable presumption that the following individuals are socially disadvantaged: Black Americans; Hispanic Americans; Native Americans (Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians, or enrolled members of a Federally or State recognized Indian Tribe); Asian Pacific Americans (persons with origins from Burma, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Brunei, Japan, China (including Hong Kong), Taiwan, Laos, Cambodia (Kampuchea), Vietnam, Korea, The Philippines, U.S. Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands (Republic of Palau), Republic of the Marshall Islands, Federated States of Micronesia, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, Guam, Samoa, Macao, Fiji, Tonga, Kiribati, Tuvalu, or Nauru); Subcontinent Asian Americans (persons with origins from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, the Maldives Islands or Nepal); and members of other groups designated from time to time by SBA according to procedures set forth at paragraph (d) of this section.
     

    There is a rebuttable presumption that the following individuals are socially disadvantaged: Black Americans; Hispanic Americans; Native Americans (Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians, or enrolled members of a Federally or State recognized Indian Tribe); Asian Pacific Americans (persons with origins from Burma, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Brunei, Japan, China (including Hong Kong), Taiwan, Laos, Cambodia (Kampuchea), Vietnam, Korea, The Philippines, U.S. Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands (Republic of Palau), Republic of the Marshall Islands, Federated States of Micronesia, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, Guam, Samoa, Macao, Fiji, Tonga, Kiribati, Tuvalu, or Nauru); Subcontinent Asian Americans (persons with origins from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, the Maldives Islands or Nepal); and members of other groups designated from time to time by SBA according to procedures set forth at paragraph (d) of this section.

    This is a travesty. Clearly written to include everyone except whites. Should be thrown into a dustbin.

    • Agree: bomag
  193. @anonymous
    "Old people eating glue their whole lives are going to expel the residue thru the lungs when they get the Flu, the bowel can’t adsorb the waste released into the bloodstream since the bowel wall is caked with the remains of 40,000 meals."


    What!?
    How many glue meals?
    Forty-four year-olds are old? If this is true, I am beyond old. Methuselah got nothing on me.
    Please check my maths. If your figures are correct, my bowel walls are completely caked with glue, and I may be already lost.
    Please advise.

    This is indeed a case for the “WTF” reaction to be added to Unz fora.

    • Replies: @anon
    Perhaps, but the problem with your hypothesis is that healthy people don't appear to get these viruses.
    So, condition is more likely.
  194. @Charles Pewitt
    Trump Is Colluding With The Asian Indians To Flood The USA With An Invasionary Horde Of Haughty Asian Indian Hindus On H-1B Visas.

    Trump has crawled into bed with the Republican Party CHEAP LABOR FACTION and they are opening the Asian Indian Invasion Floodgates.

    Trump wants to cram tens of millions of Asian Indians into the USA.

    Trump went to Houston in September of 2019 and he told a whole packed stadium of Asian Indians that he was going to flood more Asian Indians into the USA. Trump sold out the sovereignty and cultural cohesion of the USA in front of tens of thousands of ululating and screaming Asian Indians in Houston. Houston, we have a problem and that problem is fat-assed baby boomer donor whore Trump is doing every damn thing he can to pour more foreigners into the USA.

    It wouldn't surprise me if Trump has barges set up to float tens of millions of Asian Indians to the USA. Trump could cram the Asian Indian Barges full of them to the rafters and then order the US Navy to tow these barges full of foreigners to the USA. The USA should be removing foreigners by the barge load and this damn anti-White boob Trump is pushing for more and more mass legal immigration of Asian Indian foreigners.

    A sensible and patriotic immigration policy would remove most of the Asian Indians in the USA and completely halt the arrival of anymore Asian Indians to our country.

    The evil and immoral Republican Party, led by Trump and US Sen. Mike Lee, is now sneakily colluding with the Indian ruling class to flood tens of millions of Asian Indians into the USA.

    I will not vote for Trump in November.

    I will vote for the new political party called White Core America.

    Don't forget about all the ASIAN INDIAN MEDICAL SCAM criminals that are robbing the USA blind while Trump smiles at all the Asian Indians waving their filthy fingers at Trump's fat baby boomer ass.

    Tweet from 2014:

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/493814560457900032?s=20

    Good God in Heaven you are long-winded.

    I will not vote for Trump in November.

    I’ll alert the media. Another vote for Bloomberg! Because that’s actually the choice you have.

    I will vote for the new political party called White Core America.

    You are delusional.

    Trump smiles at all the Asian Indians waving their filthy fingers at Trump’s fat baby boomer ass.

    Let me guess. You were literally shaking when you wrote that.

  195. @Malla

    The ‘Aryans’ who came into India looked more like light-skinned Iranians than ‘White’ (the latter of which conjured up images of Northern Europeans in most people’s minds.
     
    Honestly we do not have any real clue what the invading/migrating Aryans looked like but we do not know if they looked like light skinned Iranians either. Both "blue eyed blond" and "light skinned Iranians" are just assumptions. However there is one clue.

    And the clue are the ancient Alans
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alans

    The name Alan is an Iranian dialectical form of Aryan, a common self-designation of the Indo-Iranians.[2] Possibly related to the Massagetae, the Alans have been connected by modern historians with the Central Asian Yancai and Aorsi of Chinese and Roman sources, respectively.[6] Having migrated westwards and become dominant among the Sarmatians on the Pontic Steppe, they are mentioned by Roman sources in the 1st century AD.[1] At the time, they had settled the region north of the Black Sea and frequently raided the Parthian Empire and the Caucasian provinces of the Roman Empire.[1] In 215–250 AD, their power on the Pontic Steppe was broken by the Goths.

    The various forms of Alan – Greek: Ἀλανοί Alanoi; Chinese: 阿蘭聊 Alanliao (Pinyin) in the 2nd century,[11] 阿蘭 Alan in the 3rd century[12] and later Alanguo (阿蘭國)[13] – are derived from Iranian dialectal forms of Aryan.[2][14] This word was preserved in modern Ossetian language in form of Allon.[15][16] These and other variants of Aryan (such as Iran) were common self-designations of the Indo-Iranians, the common ancestors of the Indo-Aryans and Iranian peoples to whom the Alans belonged.
    …snip…
    The fourth-century Roman historian Ammianus Marcellinus wrote that the Alans were tall, and blond:

    Nearly all the Alani are men of great stature and beauty; their hair is somewhat yellow, their eyes are terribly fierce.[57]

    “Somewhat yellow” sounds like brown hair glinting in the sun. Fierce eyes can be any color.

    Surely among the Yamnaya there were some blonds but I doubt they approached Scandinavian/Baltic levels of blondness. Probably resembled populations from places like the Balkans or Ukraine/Hungary/Romania.

    Seems to me blondness evolved around the Baltic among its indigenous populations, and spread from there.

    I know that isn’t as exciting as a Conan the Barbarianesque “Nordic steppe invaders sweeping over the world” version of History. Let’s face it, that’s as ridiculous as black Egypt and we wuz kangz.

    • Agree: Lot
    • Replies: @Lot
    The Alans’ closest relatives now are the Ossetians. They are a bit fair colored compared to their immediate neighbors, but not notably blond. I think they most look like Serbs.

    Some photos:

    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthroscape/ossetia-and-its-people-t42993.html
    , @Malla
    NOT TRUE AT ALL.
    Central Asia was full of blond people in the past and blond/red haired people were the Native of Central Asia and ended up facing a fate similar to Native Americans.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dfn5zWtWkAIxytu.jpg

    Scythians/Sacas

    From
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians

    “Early physical analyses have unanimously concluded that the Scythians, even those in the east (e.g. the Pazyryk region), possessed predominantly “Europid” features, although mixed ‘Euro-mongoloid” phenotypes also occur, depending on site and period.[116]

    In artworks, the Scythians are portrayed exhibiting European traits.[117] In Histories, the 5th-century Greek historian Herodotus describes the Budini of Scythia as red-haired and grey-eyed.[117] In the 5th century BC, Greek physician Hippocrates argued that the Scythians have purron (ruddy) skin.[117][118] In the 3rd century BC, the Greek poet Callimachus described the Arismapes (Arimaspi) of Scythia as fair-haired.[117][119] The 2nd century BC Han Chinese envoy Zhang Qian described the Sai (Scythians) as having yellow (probably meaning hazel or green), and blue eyes.[117] In Natural History, the 1st century AD Roman author Pliny the Elder characterises the Seres, sometimes identified as Iranians (Scythians) or Tocharians, as red-haired and blue-eyed.[117][120] In the late 2nd century AD, the Christian theologian Clement of Alexandria says that the Scythians are fair-haired.[117][121] The 2nd century Greek philosopher Polemon includes the Scythians among the northern peoples characterised by red hair and blue-grey eyes.[117] In the late 2nd or early 3rd century AD, the Greek physician Galen declares that Sarmatians, Scythians and other northern peoples have reddish hair.[117][122] The fourth-century Roman historian Ammianus Marcellinus wrote that the Alans, a people closely related to the Scythians, were tall, blond and light-eyed.[123] The 4th century bishop of Nyssa Gregory of Nyssa wrote that the Scythians were fair skinned and blond haired.[124] The 5th-century physician Adamantius, who often follow Polemon, describes the Scythians are fair-haired.[117][125]”

    That is a lot of people describing the Central Asian Scythians as light haired and light eyed.
  196. @Stan Adams
    OT:

    You know the Overton window has shifted considerably when legacy media outlets start running stories on Jewish-American pedophiles' fleeing to Israel:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=unPXNF1kND8

    The casual use of the phrase "Jewish-American pedophile" is significant. It would have been unthinkable just a few short years ago.

    Les Moonves, the disgraced former CBS head honcho who was MeTooed out of his job, is an enthusiastic supporter of America's Number-One Ally(R). One wonders whether he would have allowed such a piece to run.

    If I saw that on TV? I would totally plotz.

  197. @Anon
    Somewhat OT: CEOs Keep 1 Million Indian Graduates in U.S. Jobs, Legally

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/02/17/ceos-keep-1-million-indian-graduates-in-u-s-jobs-legally/

    We need to make it illegal to discriminate against our own citizens, because that's what's happening in many workplaces. Our own people should get first priority. Native US citizens are being nepotismed out of jobs.

    "The Indian labor force is so large that many American graduates now work in Indian-run offices throughout corporate America, and especially in Silicon Valley. In those offices, the mass of Indian workers and managers has pushed out many Americans, has replaced U.S. professionalism with Indian-style workplace politics of caste and ethnic alliances, deference to managers, blame-shifting, kickbacks, and hostility to outsiders, according to numerous reports and lawsuits, as well as statements by Indian participants and by U.S. witnesses to Breitbart News."

    "Americans get screened out from jobs even before the interview process, he said. “I know at one point there was a woman that was an Indian woman who was in the human resources department. … She was sorting through the resumes and all we got … was resumes from India.”

    Sounds pretty much like what Jews have done whenever they got a foothold in a particular industry. Americans didn’t mind when Jews did it, so why should they mind when Indians do it?

    “Americans get screened out from jobs even before the interview process, he said. “I know at one point there was a woman that was an Indian woman who was in the human resources department. … She was sorting through the resumes and all we got … was resumes from India.”

    That person sounds suspiciously like Ralph Wiggum.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Sounds pretty much like what Jews have done whenever they got a foothold in a particular industry.
     
    And gays. They call it "nesting".

    We should borrow the term.
    , @Lot
    “ Sounds pretty much like what Jews have done whenever they got a foothold in a particular industry. ”

    Turned NY’s finance, LA’s media, and the Bay Area’s software into world-dominating industries and created trillions in wealth for their countrymen?

    How awful!
  198. @Corvinus
    “In every sphere of life, competition is becoming worse”.

    So? That’s human biodiversity in action. Superior genes coming to the fore. Don’t we want hardened young men? Isn’t the future for those who show up for it?

    And for less affluent whites like myself, we have plenty

    As far as youth life “sucking”, you’d have to ask them en masse. Their responses may actually surprise you.

    “ As far as youth life “sucking”, you’d have to ask them en masse. Their responses may actually surprise you.“

    The number of morbidly obese children, so fat they cannot even run normally, is depressing and far more common than in the 1990s and before.

    I find it hard to believe they are happy.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Nice illustration of Johnny's phrase, "In every sphere of life... "
    , @Reg Cæsar

    The number of morbidly obese children, so fat they cannot even run normally, is depressing and far more common than in the 1990s and before.

    I find it hard to believe they are happy.
     
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=orcQSPds0_0
  199. @anonymous
    "Old people eating glue their whole lives are going to expel the residue thru the lungs when they get the Flu, the bowel can’t adsorb the waste released into the bloodstream since the bowel wall is caked with the remains of 40,000 meals."


    What!?
    How many glue meals?
    Forty-four year-olds are old? If this is true, I am beyond old. Methuselah got nothing on me.
    Please check my maths. If your figures are correct, my bowel walls are completely caked with glue, and I may be already lost.
    Please advise.

    Sounds like you’re dividing 40,000 by 365 x 3 to get your answer.
    A little reflection might tell you that no one eats 3 meals every day and in China and South Asia it’s more likely to be 1 per day, largely rice or wheat based.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    Thank you. I am not in China or South Asia, and I eat three glue meals every day.
    An "E" for effort, however.
  200. @Jack D
    Not only that, but from places like Guatemala we get the poorest of the poor who will be burdens on our social welfare system unto the 7th generation whereas India tends to send us skilled workers who are net positive taxpayers. (In India, the poorest of the poor are too poor even to travel). I realize folks here don't like immigrants period but there really is a difference between various immigrant groups. The Indians are not the ones who are going to be voting for socialismo.

    You are, of course, correct.

    I said very similar things to you, and these morons actually think I am a South Asian* (except the half of the time they say I am Jewish), despite NOTHING about my 2000+ comments being anything close to what a South Asian might write (not a single South Asian commenters thinks I am South Asian). It is harder for me to prove I am not Jewish, but whatever.

    You might get branded the same.

    I then realized that for all the complaining that WNs do about blacks, if there is one thing they hate more than a poor, dysfunctional, violent minority, it is a high-income, well-behaved minority?

    Why?

    Because they are socialist moochers who want handouts from functional white people like you and I. As a wise man once said, “99% of White Trashionalism is the bottom decile of white men getting angry that the bottom decile of white women are now allowed to avoid them.” Hence, a successful minority, whether Jews, Chinese, or South Asian, is too complicated for their 70-IQ minds to process.

    *To be fair, Ron Unz once claimed I was a South Asian just to troll the WNs (which is the primary purpose of this website after all). He of course tacitly admitted that he just said this to troll the WNs (RUnzie Baby and I are and always have been in cahoots), but they had already memorized the brainwashing, so now obsess over that.

    I would be more impressed if they at least had the creativity to call me a Nazgul, Olog-Hai, Klingon, Romulan, Cardassian, or Flying Purple People Eater. That would be no less inaccurate.

    • Troll: HammerJack
    • Replies: @bomag
    Rather trollish of you: "White nationalist types have said some bad things, so it's okay if they get destroyed by immigration."

    By some measures, human economy is fast becoming the care and feeding of a socialized 70 IQ class; probably best to keep it a white one.

    Even with our various model minorities being net taxpayers: that's a low bar; they are not necessarily doing work we really need, or could do otherwise; we're better off in the long run not importing demographic-changing levels of them.
  201. @Daniel Chieh
    This is indeed a case for the "WTF" reaction to be added to Unz fora.

    Perhaps, but the problem with your hypothesis is that healthy people don’t appear to get these viruses.
    So, condition is more likely.

  202. @Andy
    It's sad that Indian Americans have considerably more political power than American Indians, who have far longer roots in the US

    American Indian political leadership is pretty dismal.

  203. @donut
    John Nicholson also had a cult that worshiped him during the Raj .

    John Nicholson also had a cult that worshiped him during the Raj.

    He returned the favor, too:

  204. @Lot
    “ As far as youth life “sucking”, you’d have to ask them en masse. Their responses may actually surprise you.“

    The number of morbidly obese children, so fat they cannot even run normally, is depressing and far more common than in the 1990s and before.

    I find it hard to believe they are happy.

    https://childhoodobesityblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/morbid.jpg

    Nice illustration of Johnny’s phrase, “In every sphere of life… “

  205. @Corvinus
    “In every sphere of life, competition is becoming worse”.

    So? That’s human biodiversity in action. Superior genes coming to the fore. Don’t we want hardened young men? Isn’t the future for those who show up for it?

    And for less affluent whites like myself, we have plenty

    As far as youth life “sucking”, you’d have to ask them en masse. Their responses may actually surprise you.

    So? That’s human biodiversity in action. Superior genes coming to the fore. Don’t we want hardened young men? Isn’t the future for those who show up for it?

    Misses the point. Quantity can be a quality, but quantity can overwhelm quality.

    And for less affluent whites like myself, we have plenty

    “I Know A Good One” fallacy: you could have even more; or have more stashed for the future; if we weren’t burning through so much today servicing the Other.

  206. @Lot
    “ As far as youth life “sucking”, you’d have to ask them en masse. Their responses may actually surprise you.“

    The number of morbidly obese children, so fat they cannot even run normally, is depressing and far more common than in the 1990s and before.

    I find it hard to believe they are happy.

    https://childhoodobesityblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/morbid.jpg

    The number of morbidly obese children, so fat they cannot even run normally, is depressing and far more common than in the 1990s and before.

    I find it hard to believe they are happy.

  207. @PiltdownMan

    would probably take offence at being called white,
     
    I daresay they'd be secretly pleased and flattered for being mistaken for being white. As Mr. Sailer has pointed out, being light-skinned seems to be highly prized in India, as in Latin America.

    Indians (and many other brown races) may prefer light skin but no Indian considers himself White or even black. We are brown.

  208. @Just Passing Through
    That's where you are wrong kiddo

    https://www.8asians.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/AALDEF_2012_AA_voting_by_enthnicity.png

    https://www.8asians.com/2013/02/05/aaldef-asian-american-vote-in-2012-varied-by-ethnic-group-and-geographic-location/

    Interestingly, despite Chinese and Indian being the richest ethnic group in America, they both skew heavily towards Dems.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income


    I know a lot of Filipinos are Christian so that explains the relatively high level of support for the GOP amongst that cohort, but I am puzzled by the high level of support for Republicans amongst Vietnamese.

    My wife is Vietnamese, came here in 1975. She loves Trump, can’t stand Hillary, and wants closed borders.
    The Vietnamese I know are hard working, self-sufficient, and don’t like free loaders or street bums. They are natural Republicans.

    • Replies: @Houston 1992
    Hmm what % vote Republican ? And in France , how do the descendants of Vietnamese refugees vote ?
  209. @Just Passing Through
    Isn't the reason why so many of the H-1B visas are given out to Indians because most outsourcing companies are Indian?

    Isn't there inter-caste conflict within Indians? How do they know if the people they will get will be the same caste as them?

    I still think it is mostly Whites bringing in the cheap coolie coder labour into various countries.

    Most Indians can decode caste from first name and last name, down to sub-caste and region

    For most Indians, last name = caste name

    Reddy = Reddy caste, Telugu speaking Kulak ( big farmer )
    Patel = Patel caste , Gujarati speaking Kulak
    Chatterji, Bannerji, Mukerji = Bengali brahmin
    Sharma, Mishra, Dwivedi , Shukla, Tripathi = Hindi Brahmin
    Mahapatra = Odhisha Brahmin
    Kapoor, Khanna, Arora = Punjabi Khatri merchant
    Jain = Jain merchant
    Gupta , Agarwal = Hindi merchant
    Naidu = Naidu caste , Telugu Speaking Kulak
    Singh = Sikh or Hindu Rajput ( nobility )
    Chetty = Tamil or Telugu merchant
    Ajit Pai = Konkan Brahmin

    In Tamil Nadu, last name = caste name got dropped due to social movements
    but you can still decode
    brahmins will very unlikely keep a name like Jeyapal, or Ayyadurai
    Pramila Jeyapal = Tamil Dravidian non-brahmin
    Shiv Ayyadurai = Tamil Dravidian non-brahmin
    US Justice Sri Srinivasan = Tamil Brahmin
    Sundar Pichai = Tamil Brahmin
    Kamala Harris mother, Shyamala Gopalan = Tamil Brahmin

    • Thanks: J.Ross
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Reddy = Reddy caste, Telugu speaking Kulak ( big farmer )
     
    I always thought the Reddys were in an entirely different field.


    https://i.etsystatic.com/12344670/r/il/fee5d6/1613631163/il_570xN.1613631163_p9nb.jpg
  210. @snorlax

    Having worked in tech I can absolutely tell you the subcon H-1Bs are not terribly good at their jobs (haven’t met any non-subcon who’s worked in tech who disagrees with this observation FYI).
     
    I also work in tech and second this.

    I disagree, and I write networking software in Silicon Valley, and have for years.

    1) Most Indian software engineers are average. Not bad, just average. And personable. I think the H-1B program should be cancelled, because a lot of it is predicated on ‘the best and brightest’ nonsense, and absolutely doesn’t help Americans in any way, shape, or form. Average software engineers can easily be grown and found in America. I think President Trump has done a lot more good than harm, but any President should be constantly and publicly questioning why a nation of 330 million people cannot develop native talent in any occupational field. All the public excuses for H-1B are pathetic, but I have lived to see one president question illegal immigration and free trade. Perhaps another will actually have the guts to tackle the damaging effects of corporate driven ‘skilled’ immigration on Americans. It won’t be Trump, but the current foundation is important.

    2) Software engineering is not IT. I care not about the whining of ‘real’ engineers — I have a degree in real engineering, and am unimpressed — or IT professionals, who claim we are all the same.
    We are not — and I worked a long time in IT. There should be absolutely zero H-1Bs in IT.
    Zero. It is not necessary. There is no IT job at all that requires skills that need to be imported. Even though they are my competition I can understand some H-1Bs in software. But not IT.

    3) Indians will not assimilate easily. And I care not to live in a hindu country anymore than a muslim one.

    • Thanks: bomag
    • Replies: @MG
    I worked in Silicon Valley for 25 years. 98% of H-1B Indians wouldn’t have gotten into this country in the pre-1990 regime when there were quality filters in place. In those days to come to America you had to be academically among the toppers to get an assistantship or a fellowship. Indian parents didn’t have money to pay for their offspring’s education abroad. In the 1990s the USA tossed out its standards and opened the floodgates. Every Sharma and Rao can now take the next Air India flight out.

    One other thing: the state of restrooms at Indian-heavy companies in the Valley - o brother.
  211. @S. Anonyia
    “Somewhat yellow” sounds like brown hair glinting in the sun. Fierce eyes can be any color.

    Surely among the Yamnaya there were some blonds but I doubt they approached Scandinavian/Baltic levels of blondness. Probably resembled populations from places like the Balkans or Ukraine/Hungary/Romania.

    Seems to me blondness evolved around the Baltic among its indigenous populations, and spread from there.

    I know that isn’t as exciting as a Conan the Barbarianesque “Nordic steppe invaders sweeping over the world” version of History. Let’s face it, that’s as ridiculous as black Egypt and we wuz kangz.

    The Alans’ closest relatives now are the Ossetians. They are a bit fair colored compared to their immediate neighbors, but not notably blond. I think they most look like Serbs.

    Some photos:

    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthroscape/ossetia-and-its-people-t42993.html

    • Replies: @Malla

    The Alans’ closest relatives now are the Ossetians.
     
    Closely related is not being the same people. What if the tall, blond Alans mixed up with some darker folks to create the Ossetians.
  212. @Just Passing Through
    Coronavirus seems to be a mainly East Asian phenomenon.

    Also, the types of people who are on that photo will remain in India. Interestingly, South Asia is one of the regions where the desire to emigrate is quite low (8% would say they would would move permanently abroad if they had the opportunity, compared to 8% in East Asian and 33% in Sub-Saharan Africa and 27% in Latin America) obviously given the populations of these regions it still means tens of millions wanting to migrate (this question was hypothetical, in reality those who will actually manage to emigrate will be far lower)

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/245255/750-million-worldwide-migrate.aspx

    It’s already going nuclear in Italy, soon in all of Europe. In the States it’s probably already spreading very far but they aren’t testing anyone unless they went to China recently so there’s no data for it. Same in Canada.

    Just you wait. These are interesting times.

  213. @Alden
    6 Italians, Italians, not Asians living in Italy died of the virus in the last few days. All were over 75, one was 88.

    So are Europe’s demographics going to go from 90% white to 70% white in a single year thanks to this virus?

    My fellow UNZ commenters: I know a lot of you are long in the tooth. Please make plans to have a few months’ worth of food supply and all other necessities/medications you may need and to barricade yourself at home for a while if this thing goes crazy where you’re living (which it most likely will within the next few months). Unless you have a full hazmat suit and decontamination facility, a face mask won’t do much in the long-term. Isolation is the only way to ensure you are not infected.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Rumor: Corona is fake (or not all that big a deal) but it's an alibi -- for the rounding-up and Yezhoving of wrongthinkers, whose identities have been carefully collected through the Machines, and whose abrupt silence will be unquestioningly accepted given the whole pandemic thingamabob.
    Recall what Conan said about foregone conclusions: all the more reason to fight!
    MY ANCESTORS FINALLY WILL SMILE ON ME
  214. @Anonymous
    The Buddha had blue eyes according to all the original reports. Sounds pretty Indo-European.

    Pretty sure the Buddha was the one who preached equality and all that, that in itself lends itself to the theory that Buddha was a naive Nordic.

  215. @Tony
    zzzzzz... Do we even care?

    zzzzzz… Do we even care?

    Demographics plays out one family at a time. We’d better care.

  216. @Anonymous
    There's something bollywood-ish about Trump. Gaudy, vulgar, garish, outlandish, excessive.

    India is nouveau riche capital of the world. Everything under the sun in mad combo.

    What priggish whites find tasteless, many Indians see as awesome.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MgyRO3c870

    I say, Trump is admired in India among right winged folks is because he is perceived as anti-Muslim and anti-China.
    Secondly Indians, especially youth do tend to like outspoken firebrand politicians who speak their mind.
    There was a leader of a Right winged party in the Western state of Maharashtra (the state whose capital is Mumbai or earlier Bombay) named Balasaheb Thackeray who was very outspoken who cut the crap and got to the point. Was very popular with the youth then.
    Trump is very similar and hence he is popular amongst Indian youth.
    This could also explain why Hitler is so popular in India too. Actually Balasaheb Thakaray himself was an admirer of Adolf Hitler praising the Fuhrer often.
    Well whatever good or bad you say about Indians, the Indian common man on the streets/villages is shrewd & practical and cannot be fooled by bullshit, the kind of bullshit which easily fools White libtards. I remember telling that annoying idiot poster Corvinus a long time ago on Unz, that had he spewed his multicultural leftard bullshit in a bazaar in India, the people would have burst out laughing and then dumped him in a mental institution. Indians can smell the bullshit in such dumb libtard ideas miles away and do not get easily fooled by this, a kind of earthy traditional wisdom about human nature which childish White libtards lack. And they love direct speaking politicians like Balasaheb Thackeray and Donald Trump who do not speak diplomatically.

    • Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    I've also met alot of 2nd generation Indian americans who are very woke - especially the girls.

    Whites would have laughed the multicultural pusher off the street 100 years ago too.
    , @Just Passing Through
    Lower IQ people seem to be more in touch with reality that high IQ people, who tend to get caught up with abstract theories and ideas.
  217. @HammerJack
    Sounds pretty much like what Jews have done whenever they got a foothold in a particular industry. Americans didn't mind when Jews did it, so why should they mind when Indians do it?

    “Americans get screened out from jobs even before the interview process, he said. “I know at one point there was a woman that was an Indian woman who was in the human resources department. … She was sorting through the resumes and all we got … was resumes from India.”
     
    That person sounds suspiciously like Ralph Wiggum.

    Sounds pretty much like what Jews have done whenever they got a foothold in a particular industry.

    And gays. They call it “nesting”.

    We should borrow the term.

  218. @Anonymous
    Indians are scheming, dishonest Jew-like people and often anti-white. I'd rather have the Chinese as rulers than the Indians if it was a choice between the two.

    Chinese have some odd cultural quirks but are for the most part fairly honest and hard working. Indians in contrast have a much more conniving, Middle Eastern/Semite type character. They also tend to be arrogant and see certain types of work as beneath them, such as manual labour, which is a very Jew-like trait.

    “Indians are slippery, treacherous people” – Richard Nixon

    “The Indians are bastards anyway… They are the most aggressive goddamn people around.” – Henry Kissinger

    “I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion.” – Winston Churchill.

    • Replies: @Malla

    “The Indians are bastards anyway… They are the most aggressive goddamn people around.” – Henry Kissinger
     
    Indians on Henry Slimeball Kissinger
    "Henry is slippery, treacherous bastard anyways"
    Prime Minister of Rhodesia Ian Smith, most world leaders and the White farmers of Zimbabwe amongst many would all nod in agreement.

    “I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion.” – Winston Churchill.
     
    Indians on Winston Churchill, the drunk bum
    "We hate Winston. He is a beastly man with a beastly love for War"
    Adolf Hitler, the people of Dresden, the gassed people of Iraq, many WW2 British vets who regret fighting in the war would all nod in agreement.
    , @Just Passing Through
    The first two people whom you quote sold out America and it's workers by shipping jobs overseas to China. The only reason China is now the factory of the world is because Whites let it be, one has to admire China for grabbing this opportunity but the truth remains that they have not actually innovated in anything, even the 'Four Great Chinese Inventions' are not really Chinese, but Western or Japanese.

    The third one is a man who who could have averted the greatest catastrophe to blight Europe but didn't because he was in the pockets of vested interests.

    Those three don't have a lot of credibility.

  219. @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    So are Europe's demographics going to go from 90% white to 70% white in a single year thanks to this virus?

    My fellow UNZ commenters: I know a lot of you are long in the tooth. Please make plans to have a few months' worth of food supply and all other necessities/medications you may need and to barricade yourself at home for a while if this thing goes crazy where you're living (which it most likely will within the next few months). Unless you have a full hazmat suit and decontamination facility, a face mask won't do much in the long-term. Isolation is the only way to ensure you are not infected.

    Rumor: Corona is fake (or not all that big a deal) but it’s an alibi — for the rounding-up and Yezhoving of wrongthinkers, whose identities have been carefully collected through the Machines, and whose abrupt silence will be unquestioningly accepted given the whole pandemic thingamabob.
    Recall what Conan said about foregone conclusions: all the more reason to fight!
    MY ANCESTORS FINALLY WILL SMILE ON ME

    • Replies: @anon
    Recall what Conan said about foregone conclusions: all the more reason to fight!

    Huh?

    https://pmctvline2.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/conan-o-brien-wallpapers-download.jpg?w=620&h=440&crop=1
  220. @HammerJack
    Sounds pretty much like what Jews have done whenever they got a foothold in a particular industry. Americans didn't mind when Jews did it, so why should they mind when Indians do it?

    “Americans get screened out from jobs even before the interview process, he said. “I know at one point there was a woman that was an Indian woman who was in the human resources department. … She was sorting through the resumes and all we got … was resumes from India.”
     
    That person sounds suspiciously like Ralph Wiggum.

    “ Sounds pretty much like what Jews have done whenever they got a foothold in a particular industry. ”

    Turned NY’s finance, LA’s media, and the Bay Area’s software into world-dominating industries and created trillions in wealth for their countrymen?

    How awful!

    • Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.)
    Silicon Valley is a Jewish creation? Really? All those computer scientists and electrical engineers were Jewish in your alternative history? Or perhaps, are Jewish managers to blame for all the H-1B abuse and overcrowding? Honestly, I thought it was general American corporate greed, but thank you for volunteering the exact specific ethnic group responsible.

    Your honesty is refreshing.
    , @HammerJack
    What's that? Trillions? And you did all that just for us? Aww, you shouldn't have!

    Um, my check's in the mail, right?
    , @peterike

    Turned NY’s finance, LA’s media, and the Bay Area’s software into world-dominating industries and created trillions in wealth for their countrymen?
     
    Turned NY’s finance
    >>> Deliberately outsourced American manufacturing and devastated millions of working class lives. Many American towns have never recovered. Unleashed countless predatory lending instruments. Take 20% interest from your credit card give you 0.5% on your savings account. Beggared millions of retirees.

    LA’s media,
    >>> Waged a relentless war on heritage white America. Promoted homosexuality, race mixing and every other perversion under the sun. Spread a continuous, toxic stew of anti-White, anti-male, anti-American propaganda all over the world.

    Bay Area’s software
    >>>> Outsourced and in-sourced millions of jobs to Indians, Chinese and others, taking good paying jobs from Americans and flooding the nation with troublesome Asians. Complacently allowed massive industrial espionage by Chinese and Israelis. Financially vigorous supporters of anti-white, GloboHomo, open borders. Ruthlessly censor pro-white and conservative points of view.

    But oh yay, trillions of dollars for their "countrymen"!

    , @J.Ross
    Jewish success in an industry new to them is normally the relatively explosive benefit of eliminating taboos, which usually means they will not be able to maintain the apparent relative improvement, or -- we all get to discover as harshly as possible why those taboos had been in place.
  221. @Edward
    Shashi Tharoor wrote a good piece on coronavirus and India, recently:

    The three cases in India, all involving medical students from Wuhan who are now home in the state of Kerala, are all in stable condition and are being closely monitored, two in hospital isolation and one at home. India successfully evacuated 324 students from Wuhan who are now in quarantine in a detention facility in Manesar, less than two hours from the nation’s capital, where none has so far tested positive for the virus. Some 4,000 people are reported to be under observation at isolation wards across the country, but the number of confirmed cases has remained at three for over a week...

    The government has sprung into action and instituted health measures at airports and ports, including entry screening, travel advisories and signages at major ports of entry, with checks of any travellers showing signs of cold or fever. But infected persons could still slip through in the asymptomatic but infectious phase of the illness...

    State governments are stepping up preparedness measures. But there are worries about how well India is equipped to conduct disease surveillance, to deploy adequate laboratory testing capacity, to elevate hospital preparedness including infection prevention and control, and to communicate effectively to the public...

    not every state is like Kerala, and an outbreak almost anywhere else in the country is unlikely to be countered by an agile response system, adequate primary health care facilities to conduct the needed clinical assessments, sufficient lab capacity or effective isolation practices.
     
    https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/article/3050988/india-coronavirus-catastrophe-waiting-happen

    A bigger problem is Chinese tourists in Nepal, who may have transmitted the virus to Nepalese, who cross into India across an essentially open border. India itself is dirty and crowded, a perfect place for a virus to spread and conquer.

  222. @Anonymous
    Indians are scheming, dishonest Jew-like people and often anti-white. I'd rather have the Chinese as rulers than the Indians if it was a choice between the two.

    Chinese have some odd cultural quirks but are for the most part fairly honest and hard working. Indians in contrast have a much more conniving, Middle Eastern/Semite type character. They also tend to be arrogant and see certain types of work as beneath them, such as manual labour, which is a very Jew-like trait.

    So being a taxi driver or a running a convenience store in risky area is not beneath them?

    • Replies: @Malla
    FOR NOW THEY Have no option but to do these jobs to make money in rich Whitey land, wait till they become richer, then they will treat taxi drivers and convenience store owners as vermins. Anyways convenience store owner is a good Vaisya merchant bania job in the caste hierarchy, do not have to do hard labour.
  223. @Lot
    “ Sounds pretty much like what Jews have done whenever they got a foothold in a particular industry. ”

    Turned NY’s finance, LA’s media, and the Bay Area’s software into world-dominating industries and created trillions in wealth for their countrymen?

    How awful!

    Silicon Valley is a Jewish creation? Really? All those computer scientists and electrical engineers were Jewish in your alternative history? Or perhaps, are Jewish managers to blame for all the H-1B abuse and overcrowding? Honestly, I thought it was general American corporate greed, but thank you for volunteering the exact specific ethnic group responsible.

    Your honesty is refreshing.

    • Replies: @Andy
    There are some Jews in Silicon Valley, but the tech industry is not that Jewish, unlike the entertainment industry or Wall Street or the legal profession. My impression is that the new generations of American Jews are slacking off compared with their ancestors and they are not that interested in the hard work involved in the tech industry. Israel does have an important tech industry, but the attitude of the average Israeli is quite different from that of the average Jewish American.
  224. @S. Anonyia
    “Somewhat yellow” sounds like brown hair glinting in the sun. Fierce eyes can be any color.

    Surely among the Yamnaya there were some blonds but I doubt they approached Scandinavian/Baltic levels of blondness. Probably resembled populations from places like the Balkans or Ukraine/Hungary/Romania.

    Seems to me blondness evolved around the Baltic among its indigenous populations, and spread from there.

    I know that isn’t as exciting as a Conan the Barbarianesque “Nordic steppe invaders sweeping over the world” version of History. Let’s face it, that’s as ridiculous as black Egypt and we wuz kangz.

    NOT TRUE AT ALL.
    Central Asia was full of blond people in the past and blond/red haired people were the Native of Central Asia and ended up facing a fate similar to Native Americans.

    Scythians/Sacas

    From
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians

    “Early physical analyses have unanimously concluded that the Scythians, even those in the east (e.g. the Pazyryk region), possessed predominantly “Europid” features, although mixed ‘Euro-mongoloid” phenotypes also occur, depending on site and period.[116]

    In artworks, the Scythians are portrayed exhibiting European traits.[117] In Histories, the 5th-century Greek historian Herodotus describes the Budini of Scythia as red-haired and grey-eyed.[117] In the 5th century BC, Greek physician Hippocrates argued that the Scythians have purron (ruddy) skin.[117][118] In the 3rd century BC, the Greek poet Callimachus described the Arismapes (Arimaspi) of Scythia as fair-haired.[117][119] The 2nd century BC Han Chinese envoy Zhang Qian described the Sai (Scythians) as having yellow (probably meaning hazel or green), and blue eyes.[117] In Natural History, the 1st century AD Roman author Pliny the Elder characterises the Seres, sometimes identified as Iranians (Scythians) or Tocharians, as red-haired and blue-eyed.[117][120] In the late 2nd century AD, the Christian theologian Clement of Alexandria says that the Scythians are fair-haired.[117][121] The 2nd century Greek philosopher Polemon includes the Scythians among the northern peoples characterised by red hair and blue-grey eyes.[117] In the late 2nd or early 3rd century AD, the Greek physician Galen declares that Sarmatians, Scythians and other northern peoples have reddish hair.[117][122] The fourth-century Roman historian Ammianus Marcellinus wrote that the Alans, a people closely related to the Scythians, were tall, blond and light-eyed.[123] The 4th century bishop of Nyssa Gregory of Nyssa wrote that the Scythians were fair skinned and blond haired.[124] The 5th-century physician Adamantius, who often follow Polemon, describes the Scythians are fair-haired.[117][125]”

    That is a lot of people describing the Central Asian Scythians as light haired and light eyed.

  225. @rec1man
    Most Indians can decode caste from first name and last name, down to sub-caste and region

    For most Indians, last name = caste name

    Reddy = Reddy caste, Telugu speaking Kulak ( big farmer )
    Patel = Patel caste , Gujarati speaking Kulak
    Chatterji, Bannerji, Mukerji = Bengali brahmin
    Sharma, Mishra, Dwivedi , Shukla, Tripathi = Hindi Brahmin
    Mahapatra = Odhisha Brahmin
    Kapoor, Khanna, Arora = Punjabi Khatri merchant
    Jain = Jain merchant
    Gupta , Agarwal = Hindi merchant
    Naidu = Naidu caste , Telugu Speaking Kulak
    Singh = Sikh or Hindu Rajput ( nobility )
    Chetty = Tamil or Telugu merchant
    Ajit Pai = Konkan Brahmin

    In Tamil Nadu, last name = caste name got dropped due to social movements
    but you can still decode
    brahmins will very unlikely keep a name like Jeyapal, or Ayyadurai
    Pramila Jeyapal = Tamil Dravidian non-brahmin
    Shiv Ayyadurai = Tamil Dravidian non-brahmin
    US Justice Sri Srinivasan = Tamil Brahmin
    Sundar Pichai = Tamil Brahmin
    Kamala Harris mother, Shyamala Gopalan = Tamil Brahmin

    Reddy = Reddy caste, Telugu speaking Kulak ( big farmer )

    I always thought the Reddys were in an entirely different field.

    • LOL: Malla, HammerJack
    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/oj0AAOxyjPNREZMz/s-l400.jpg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fImf1GjE89Q
  226. @DB Cooper
    "Indians are slippery, treacherous people" - Richard Nixon

    "The Indians are bastards anyway... They are the most aggressive goddamn people around." - Henry Kissinger

    "I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion." - Winston Churchill.

    “The Indians are bastards anyway… They are the most aggressive goddamn people around.” – Henry Kissinger

    Indians on Henry Slimeball Kissinger
    “Henry is slippery, treacherous bastard anyways”
    Prime Minister of Rhodesia Ian Smith, most world leaders and the White farmers of Zimbabwe amongst many would all nod in agreement.

    “I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion.” – Winston Churchill.

    Indians on Winston Churchill, the drunk bum
    “We hate Winston. He is a beastly man with a beastly love for War”
    Adolf Hitler, the people of Dresden, the gassed people of Iraq, many WW2 British vets who regret fighting in the war would all nod in agreement.

    • Replies: @Jack D

    many WW2 British vets who regret fighting in the war
     
    Who are these vets who regretted saving their country from eternal Nazi rule? I've never met one.
  227. @Kaz
    So being a taxi driver or a running a convenience store in risky area is not beneath them?

    FOR NOW THEY Have no option but to do these jobs to make money in rich Whitey land, wait till they become richer, then they will treat taxi drivers and convenience store owners as vermins. Anyways convenience store owner is a good Vaisya merchant bania job in the caste hierarchy, do not have to do hard labour.

  228. @J.Ross
    Aussie soldiers warned they will be kicked out if caught making hand gestures declared by the ADL to be white supremacist. Includes illustration of one such career ending dangerous hand gesture.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-19/army-crackdown-white-supremacy-gestures/11975638

    Good catch.

    White people should be careful about breathing, too. I’ve heard that breathing is absolutely redolent of Privilege and Supremacy, at least when white people do it.

    No problem with this, though:

    “The official inquiry concluded the photograph did not violate any Army or Department of Defense regulations and was only intended to demonstrate unity and pride.”

  229. @YetAnotherAnon
    "there is not a single Indian that looks European"

    Not in India, agreed. Maybe on the Pakistani/Afghan border, or among the Kalashas.

    https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l6ybwlMn9U1qcmed9o1_540.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/474x/72/41/57/72415753a10877c1c9b0189d8b4c1082--afghan-girl-girls-life.jpg
    • Replies: @Just Passing Through
    There is also this guy.

    https://www.theindianwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/hrithik_Roshan__.jpg
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    She's lovely, but not very European.

    https://twitter.com/narangestan/status/1215127739281395719
  230. @Currahee
    Absolutely amazing.

    Indeed! But I wonder if they have even the slightest inkling what would happen to them if they tried any of that in the USA. Hey! Why don’t we ever seem to get these Indians over here??

    • Replies: @rec1man
    Sandeepa Dhar , Kashmiri Brahmin

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSh4EHvId7K6Tt7oB1P6MMBn-9xXtQA5T1mWR4DV-dUodVV3yv6&s

    Urvashi Rautela , Rajput

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTB1EepWXFZgYmZj2_ZKIKLebLMuuIDMz25uW-LuOtuQxvBxJMx9g&s
  231. @DB Cooper
    "Indians are slippery, treacherous people" - Richard Nixon

    "The Indians are bastards anyway... They are the most aggressive goddamn people around." - Henry Kissinger

    "I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion." - Winston Churchill.

    The first two people whom you quote sold out America and it’s workers by shipping jobs overseas to China. The only reason China is now the factory of the world is because Whites let it be, one has to admire China for grabbing this opportunity but the truth remains that they have not actually innovated in anything, even the ‘Four Great Chinese Inventions’ are not really Chinese, but Western or Japanese.

    The third one is a man who who could have averted the greatest catastrophe to blight Europe but didn’t because he was in the pockets of vested interests.

    Those three don’t have a lot of credibility.

    • Agree: Malla
    • Replies: @bomag

    Those three don’t have a lot of credibility.
     
    I believe it was Enoch Powell who said that all political careers end in failure.

    Those three had some pretty astute observations along the way.
  232. @Lot
    “ Sounds pretty much like what Jews have done whenever they got a foothold in a particular industry. ”

    Turned NY’s finance, LA’s media, and the Bay Area’s software into world-dominating industries and created trillions in wealth for their countrymen?

    How awful!

    What’s that? Trillions? And you did all that just for us? Aww, you shouldn’t have!

    Um, my check’s in the mail, right?

  233. White people don’t drive taxis or run 711s either. Mexicans do a lot of the dirty work that Whitey won’t touch.

    • Replies: @Malla

    White people don’t drive taxis
     
    Say What?

    https://www.phtm.co.uk/file/news-images/A-MILLION-MILES-AND-STILL-GOING-FOR-GLASGOW%E2%80%99S-OLDEST-CABBIE.jpg
    , @J.Ross
    Whites still do those jobs, and did them universally before squeezed out.
  234. @RichardTaylor
    I mean, this looks pretty European to me. Beautiful woman:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/science/indians-europeans-share-light-skin-genetic-coding-8C11566211

    https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/streams/2013/November/131108/8C9639760-131108-bollywood-skin-jsw-254p.fit-2000w.jpg

    There is also this guy.

    • Replies: @Malla
    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BZDkxZDg4ZDQt[email protected]._V1_UY1200_CR137,0,630,1200_AL_.jpg

    https://superstarsbio.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/62271019.jpg

    What about Indian actor Jugal Hansraj?

  235. • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    If you get the impression Somalis might be avoiding American blacks... however, they are better off in Minnesota, where there are some native blacks with which to be favorably compared, than in lily-white Maine. The Maine ones escaped Atlanta, a really unwise choice, but went to the other extreme, just as unwise.

    The worst thing about Somalis isn't their blackness, it's Islam. The best thing is their clannishness, truly a feature rather than a bug.

    You know a state is small--and unattractive-- when Bhutanese dominate. The country has a population near Vermont's or North Dakota's in size.
  236. @Malla
    Hey, why not? Bhagwan Shri Donald Trump is a God in India. He has his very own temple.

    https://www.greattelangaana.com/english/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Trump-Temple.jpg

    https://www.eturbonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/0a.jpg

    https://img.etimg.com/thumb/msid-74203511,width-640,resizemode-4,imgsize-68884/life-size-statue-of-trump.jpg

    Here we see Indians perform holy yagna (fire sacrifice) for Bhagwan Donald Trump's victory

    https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c11f0d72100006708ca739a.jpeg?ops=scalefit_630_noupscale

    https://www.storypick.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/TR-2.jpg

    https://www.thenewsminute.com/sites/default/files/styles/news_detail/public/donald_trump_prayers_PTI.jpg?itok=qYeko1SU

    Bhagwan Trump returns to the land of his devotees. Take that Democrats. For the bad karma of trying to impeach Lord Bhagwan the best they can hope for their next birth is to be reborn as cockroaches living off the rubbish from the future Baron Trump's garbage bin.

    Muslim rulers in India used to be called Bhagwan by some Hindus . Most of those Delhi based Pathan and Mughal Kings used to be worshipped in most obsequious fashions by the Hindu elites surrounding them .
    Now their descendants propagate utmost hatred against those historical figures .
    Lord Curzon and other British dignitaries received similar adulations .

    Even Indra Ghadhi was called Mother Goddess Durga by Desai who later became prime minister of India .

    There is something about Indian attitude to power and wealth . It is nothing but expression of inherent impotence , flattery , moral corruption and lack of any emotional control .

    Don’t be surprised if one day we see these statues getting firebombed , being set on fire, or getting trampled by dog’s feet .

    • Replies: @Malla

    Muslim rulers in India used to be called Bhagwan by some Hindus .
     
    Really? I am not aware of this. You have any sources. I find this very strange.

    Lord Curzon and other British dignitaries received similar adulations .
     
    This is possible but only selective British dignitaries, Lord Lytton for example, who is often blamed for being insensitive about Indian famines (which historically is not true) was given such adulation because when he went on a tour to a famine area in the south, Madras presidency (or was it West in Bombay) suddenly rain fell and the villagers though of him as a good omen / god like figure. John Nicholson of the Mutiny days, had a cult who worshiped him called the 'Nikal Seynis' which existed upto this century.
    Why was Lord Curzon adulated? Because he passed the Indian Monument preservation act to preserve historical Indian monuments and starting the ASI? (ASI='Archaeological Survey of India' which still exists as a government body today, BTW) I though educated Hindus hated Lord Curzon for the division of Bengal but poor Bengali Muslim peasants loved him for it.

    There is something about Indian attitude to power and wealth . It is nothing but expression of inherent impotence , flattery , moral corruption and lack of any emotional control .

    Don’t be surprised if one day we see these statues getting firebombed , being set on fire, or getting trampled by dog’s feet .
     
    That is possible but only time will tell.
  237. @Reg Cæsar

    That seems to be one truism of Indian immigrants. They aren’t after the white girl. They will marry Indian girl...
     
    The first sister of a friend dated a white South American, from Colombia or Ecuador, whom she strung along then cruelly dumped. She also dated a guy from India off-and-on who did the same to her, to marry a cousin. I forget in which order this happened.

    She ended up with a well-off white nerd from the Bay Area whose parents bit their tongues and indulged her as she was their last chance for grandchildren. They had two girls in her mid'40s. Her big sister also married late and miscarried her only child. Little brother had three, but one was killed when the family's car got caught between two others in a road rage derby on the Interstate. Little little brother, who lost his father as a baby, has at least one child now, so that's five grandchildren from four children.

    At least that's an increase. The friend who introduced me to them was one of seven who had six, and her cousin was one of five who produced one of two, not counting an adoptee from a basket on a Chinese road. These two were the smartest families I've known, a tiebreaker who came home to the farm, and two scientists who married young.

    Dysgenesis in action. I swore I'd help make up the deficit. We're up to three.

    Thanks for these stories.

    I cringe when I come across a smart, earnest young woman in a corporate/bureaucratic job that sucks up her fertile years. We’re doing something wrong.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I cringe when I come across a smart, earnest young woman in a corporate/bureaucratic job that sucks up her fertile years
     
    Don't even get me started on my stepsisters-in-law...
  238. @Just Passing Through
    The first two people whom you quote sold out America and it's workers by shipping jobs overseas to China. The only reason China is now the factory of the world is because Whites let it be, one has to admire China for grabbing this opportunity but the truth remains that they have not actually innovated in anything, even the 'Four Great Chinese Inventions' are not really Chinese, but Western or Japanese.

    The third one is a man who who could have averted the greatest catastrophe to blight Europe but didn't because he was in the pockets of vested interests.

    Those three don't have a lot of credibility.

    Those three don’t have a lot of credibility.

    I believe it was Enoch Powell who said that all political careers end in failure.

    Those three had some pretty astute observations along the way.

  239. @Meena
    Muslim rulers in India used to be called Bhagwan by some Hindus . Most of those Delhi based Pathan and Mughal Kings used to be worshipped in most obsequious fashions by the Hindu elites surrounding them .
    Now their descendants propagate utmost hatred against those historical figures .
    Lord Curzon and other British dignitaries received similar adulations .

    Even Indra Ghadhi was called Mother Goddess Durga by Desai who later became prime minister of India .

    There is something about Indian attitude to power and wealth . It is nothing but expression of inherent impotence , flattery , moral corruption and lack of any emotional control .


    Don’t be surprised if one day we see these statues getting firebombed , being set on fire, or getting trampled by dog’s feet .

    Muslim rulers in India used to be called Bhagwan by some Hindus .

    Really? I am not aware of this. You have any sources. I find this very strange.

    Lord Curzon and other British dignitaries received similar adulations .

    This is possible but only selective British dignitaries, Lord Lytton for example, who is often blamed for being insensitive about Indian famines (which historically is not true) was given such adulation because when he went on a tour to a famine area in the south, Madras presidency (or was it West in Bombay) suddenly rain fell and the villagers though of him as a good omen / god like figure. John Nicholson of the Mutiny days, had a cult who worshiped him called the ‘Nikal Seynis’ which existed upto this century.
    Why was Lord Curzon adulated? Because he passed the Indian Monument preservation act to preserve historical Indian monuments and starting the ASI? (ASI=’Archaeological Survey of India’ which still exists as a government body today, BTW) I though educated Hindus hated Lord Curzon for the division of Bengal but poor Bengali Muslim peasants loved him for it.

    There is something about Indian attitude to power and wealth . It is nothing but expression of inherent impotence , flattery , moral corruption and lack of any emotional control .

    Don’t be surprised if one day we see these statues getting firebombed , being set on fire, or getting trampled by dog’s feet .

    That is possible but only time will tell.

    • Replies: @KA
    A lot of Muslim leaders used to be called Bhagwan by a lot of Hindus .
    Once I get the source I will post the link.

    Lord Curzon’s whatever achievement might have been did not qualify his elevation to god thing.
    Education has nothing to do it. It’s the tendency to elevate people and the tendency to degrade people - both are peculiar facets of Hinduism , that have not changed yet.

    Indian gov had to intervene few years back to destroy a temple that was housing the idol of Modi presumably for worship.
    , @Meena
    Bhagbwan was possibly more of a mark of significance ,, absloute power ,and righteousness. Hindus have called their rulers also same .

    Indira Gandhi was the last ruler I know who was called Godddess Durga after 1971 Indo- Pak war openly by other including future prime minister M Desai .

    God King as a concept reached its zenith in Cambodia - Laos- Thailand region in 1300 AD.
    But those Kings were IndIn expatriates .
    Worshipping the holy men are not uncommon .

  240. @Anon
    White people don't drive taxis or run 711s either. Mexicans do a lot of the dirty work that Whitey won't touch.

    White people don’t drive taxis

    Say What?

    • Replies: @Anon
    He's Glasgow's oldest cabbie. Most young and middle aged cabbies in Anglo countries are Indian, Arab, or East African.

    Whites rarely take the job.

    Too dirty, unclean, and difficult.
  241. @YetAnotherAnon
    "there is not a single Indian that looks European"

    Not in India, agreed. Maybe on the Pakistani/Afghan border, or among the Kalashas.

    https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l6ybwlMn9U1qcmed9o1_540.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/474x/72/41/57/72415753a10877c1c9b0189d8b4c1082--afghan-girl-girls-life.jpg

    The Pashtun are the most European-looking of the three main tribes of Afghanistan. The Tajiks are more Persian-looking while the Hazaris are related to the Mongol invaders and appear as such. The Pashtun are also probably the most degenerate and inbred of the three, which goes to my original point, which is that you can’t always use the light-dark paradigm to rank ethnic groups by measures of intelligence, success, etc…

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    That's a theme of Kipling's amazing "The Man Who Would Be King:" Daniel Dravot thinks he can civilize the white-looking tribesmen, while Peachy is cynical.

    Kipling wrote this short story that continues to have so many ramifications when he was only 22.

  242. @RichardTaylor
    I mean, this looks pretty European to me. Beautiful woman:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/science/indians-europeans-share-light-skin-genetic-coding-8C11566211

    https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/streams/2013/November/131108/8C9639760-131108-bollywood-skin-jsw-254p.fit-2000w.jpg

    She’s lovely, but not very European.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    Well then would you classify Greeks today as looking European?

    I consider ancient Persians to have been White and my understanding is they were dark haired.

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/1f/1f/f3/1f1ff358f82122c959347cf92dd6045f.jpg
    , @Malla
    What about Nuristanis of Afghanistan?
    https://thewanderingfoxy.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/boy-from-nuristan-afghanistan-1992-c2a9-steve-mccurry.jpg?w=819

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6J4w_8CUAA1gqN.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/77/50/24/7750245832e824a26bb23427aef6ab59.jpg

    Once known as Kafiristan, they were the last Afghans to fight Islamisation. Only when the muslim Afghans got European guns, were they subdued and converted. And they gave the Soviets some of the greatest resistance in war.
  243. @anon
    My wife is Vietnamese, came here in 1975. She loves Trump, can't stand Hillary, and wants closed borders.
    The Vietnamese I know are hard working, self-sufficient, and don't like free loaders or street bums. They are natural Republicans.

    Hmm what % vote Republican ? And in France , how do the descendants of Vietnamese refugees vote ?

  244. @Hapalong Cassidy
    The Pashtun are the most European-looking of the three main tribes of Afghanistan. The Tajiks are more Persian-looking while the Hazaris are related to the Mongol invaders and appear as such. The Pashtun are also probably the most degenerate and inbred of the three, which goes to my original point, which is that you can’t always use the light-dark paradigm to rank ethnic groups by measures of intelligence, success, etc...

    That’s a theme of Kipling’s amazing “The Man Who Would Be King:” Daniel Dravot thinks he can civilize the white-looking tribesmen, while Peachy is cynical.

    Kipling wrote this short story that continues to have so many ramifications when he was only 22.

  245. @anon
    Sounds like you're dividing 40,000 by 365 x 3 to get your answer.
    A little reflection might tell you that no one eats 3 meals every day and in China and South Asia it's more likely to be 1 per day, largely rice or wheat based.

    Thank you. I am not in China or South Asia, and I eat three glue meals every day.
    An “E” for effort, however.

  246. @Anonymous
    There's something bollywood-ish about Trump. Gaudy, vulgar, garish, outlandish, excessive.

    India is nouveau riche capital of the world. Everything under the sun in mad combo.

    What priggish whites find tasteless, many Indians see as awesome.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MgyRO3c870

    What priggish whites find tasteless, many Indians see as awesome.

    Yes, Trump embodies the sorts of traditionally crass material values that Indians, blacks, Muslims and other non-Europeans see as “awesome”. If “priggish whites” are defending traditional European Protestant values, I would prefer to be priggish.

  247. @XYZ (no Mr.)
    I disagree, and I write networking software in Silicon Valley, and have for years.

    1) Most Indian software engineers are average. Not bad, just average. And personable. I think the H-1B program should be cancelled, because a lot of it is predicated on 'the best and brightest' nonsense, and absolutely doesn't help Americans in any way, shape, or form. Average software engineers can easily be grown and found in America. I think President Trump has done a lot more good than harm, but any President should be constantly and publicly questioning why a nation of 330 million people cannot develop native talent in any occupational field. All the public excuses for H-1B are pathetic, but I have lived to see one president question illegal immigration and free trade. Perhaps another will actually have the guts to tackle the damaging effects of corporate driven 'skilled' immigration on Americans. It won't be Trump, but the current foundation is important.

    2) Software engineering is not IT. I care not about the whining of 'real' engineers -- I have a degree in real engineering, and am unimpressed -- or IT professionals, who claim we are all the same.
    We are not -- and I worked a long time in IT. There should be absolutely zero H-1Bs in IT.
    Zero. It is not necessary. There is no IT job at all that requires skills that need to be imported. Even though they are my competition I can understand some H-1Bs in software. But not IT.

    3) Indians will not assimilate easily. And I care not to live in a hindu country anymore than a muslim one.

    I worked in Silicon Valley for 25 years. 98% of H-1B Indians wouldn’t have gotten into this country in the pre-1990 regime when there were quality filters in place. In those days to come to America you had to be academically among the toppers to get an assistantship or a fellowship. Indian parents didn’t have money to pay for their offspring’s education abroad. In the 1990s the USA tossed out its standards and opened the floodgates. Every Sharma and Rao can now take the next Air India flight out.

    One other thing: the state of restrooms at Indian-heavy companies in the Valley – o brother.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    Yeah, I've noticed there's a huge difference in the quality of the immigrants from the subcontinent that came during the 1970s/1980s and those that came after the Cold War ended. The former tended to be a very intellectually high-horsepower bunch, largely because if they weren't, they wouldn't have qualified for immigration under the pre-1990 regime.

    Lot of scientists in particular.

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    The quality filters were dismantled sometime around 1998-2000, with the expansion of the H-1b visa cap under Bill Clinton. That's when you began to see lots of mediocre programmers come in from overseas.

    As recently as the mid 90s, you still had to be reasonably qualified to get an H-1b visa. The quality wasn't as superb as the 60s-80s, but it was still decent. By 1999 or 2000, that had changed.

    Especially from around 2013/14 onward, there's been further dismantling of quality filters. A lot of these new IT workers would struggle to even be considered mediocre.

    Up through the 80s, the H-1bs were indeed the "best and brightest" of the world.
    During the 90s, you were getting people who were pretty competent, but not elite.
    By the early 2000s, you were getting people who could've easily been replaced by State U BAs.
    Within the last 5-7 years, the entire system has become a joke.

    I'd say the H-1b went from a net positive to a net negative around 2000.
    , @DB Cooper
    There are called Indiots for a reason.

    http://www.indiots2.com/
  248. @YetAnotherAnon
    She's lovely, but not very European.

    https://twitter.com/narangestan/status/1215127739281395719

    Well then would you classify Greeks today as looking European?

    I consider ancient Persians to have been White and my understanding is they were dark haired.

  249. @bomag
    Thanks for these stories.

    I cringe when I come across a smart, earnest young woman in a corporate/bureaucratic job that sucks up her fertile years. We're doing something wrong.

    I cringe when I come across a smart, earnest young woman in a corporate/bureaucratic job that sucks up her fertile years

    Don’t even get me started on my stepsisters-in-law…

  250. @eah
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iQLh5EkfuGU/Vzh2dcRz8gI/AAAAAAABj1g/5eo7c-2qxPQJ8qfhF9pY2V8tGjFt04wrACLcB/s640/1.png

    If you get the impression Somalis might be avoiding American blacks… however, they are better off in Minnesota, where there are some native blacks with which to be favorably compared, than in lily-white Maine. The Maine ones escaped Atlanta, a really unwise choice, but went to the other extreme, just as unwise.

    The worst thing about Somalis isn’t their blackness, it’s Islam. The best thing is their clannishness, truly a feature rather than a bug.

    You know a state is small–and unattractive– when Bhutanese dominate. The country has a population near Vermont’s or North Dakota’s in size.

    • Replies: @anon
    The worst thing about Somalis isn’t their blackness, rather it is their presence in the US at all, where their tribalism is doing long term damage.

    Fixed. No charge.

  251. @YetAnotherAnon
    She's lovely, but not very European.

    https://twitter.com/narangestan/status/1215127739281395719

    What about Nuristanis of Afghanistan?

    Once known as Kafiristan, they were the last Afghans to fight Islamisation. Only when the muslim Afghans got European guns, were they subdued and converted. And they gave the Soviets some of the greatest resistance in war.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    They're the folks in "Man Who Would Be King."
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    I did mention the Kalasha of Pakistan, who I think are related to the Nuristanis.
  252. @Lot
    The Alans’ closest relatives now are the Ossetians. They are a bit fair colored compared to their immediate neighbors, but not notably blond. I think they most look like Serbs.

    Some photos:

    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthroscape/ossetia-and-its-people-t42993.html

    The Alans’ closest relatives now are the Ossetians.

    Closely related is not being the same people. What if the tall, blond Alans mixed up with some darker folks to create the Ossetians.

  253. @Malla
    I say, Trump is admired in India among right winged folks is because he is perceived as anti-Muslim and anti-China.
    Secondly Indians, especially youth do tend to like outspoken firebrand politicians who speak their mind.
    There was a leader of a Right winged party in the Western state of Maharashtra (the state whose capital is Mumbai or earlier Bombay) named Balasaheb Thackeray who was very outspoken who cut the crap and got to the point. Was very popular with the youth then.
    Trump is very similar and hence he is popular amongst Indian youth.
    This could also explain why Hitler is so popular in India too. Actually Balasaheb Thakaray himself was an admirer of Adolf Hitler praising the Fuhrer often.
    Well whatever good or bad you say about Indians, the Indian common man on the streets/villages is shrewd & practical and cannot be fooled by bullshit, the kind of bullshit which easily fools White libtards. I remember telling that annoying idiot poster Corvinus a long time ago on Unz, that had he spewed his multicultural leftard bullshit in a bazaar in India, the people would have burst out laughing and then dumped him in a mental institution. Indians can smell the bullshit in such dumb libtard ideas miles away and do not get easily fooled by this, a kind of earthy traditional wisdom about human nature which childish White libtards lack. And they love direct speaking politicians like Balasaheb Thackeray and Donald Trump who do not speak diplomatically.

    I’ve also met alot of 2nd generation Indian americans who are very woke – especially the girls.

    Whites would have laughed the multicultural pusher off the street 100 years ago too.

    • Replies: @Malla

    Whites would have laughed the multicultural pusher off the street 100 years ago too.
     
    And then came television (programming) and Cultural Marxism in Universities and people lost their common sense.
  254. @Joe Stalin
    I know of an Indian who got married to a US citizen, but to keep their child from becoming American, sent the kid to an "International" school.

    That's the people we're getting.

    Or as Rush Limbaugh said: 'When you import people from the Third world, you're going to get Third world people.'

    I know of an Indian who got married to a US citizen, but to keep their child from becoming American, sent the kid to an “International” school.

    A Somali family in Minneapolis sent their teenager to the old country for schooling to keep him from being corrupted by American ways.

    Too late. He was promptly murdered. According to my Somali co-worker’s hypothesis, his “crime” was probably just mouthing off to the teacher.

  255. @Malla
    What about Nuristanis of Afghanistan?
    https://thewanderingfoxy.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/boy-from-nuristan-afghanistan-1992-c2a9-steve-mccurry.jpg?w=819

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6J4w_8CUAA1gqN.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/77/50/24/7750245832e824a26bb23427aef6ab59.jpg

    Once known as Kafiristan, they were the last Afghans to fight Islamisation. Only when the muslim Afghans got European guns, were they subdued and converted. And they gave the Soviets some of the greatest resistance in war.

    They’re the folks in “Man Who Would Be King.”

    • Agree: Malla
  256. @Malla

    Muslim rulers in India used to be called Bhagwan by some Hindus .
     
    Really? I am not aware of this. You have any sources. I find this very strange.

    Lord Curzon and other British dignitaries received similar adulations .
     
    This is possible but only selective British dignitaries, Lord Lytton for example, who is often blamed for being insensitive about Indian famines (which historically is not true) was given such adulation because when he went on a tour to a famine area in the south, Madras presidency (or was it West in Bombay) suddenly rain fell and the villagers though of him as a good omen / god like figure. John Nicholson of the Mutiny days, had a cult who worshiped him called the 'Nikal Seynis' which existed upto this century.
    Why was Lord Curzon adulated? Because he passed the Indian Monument preservation act to preserve historical Indian monuments and starting the ASI? (ASI='Archaeological Survey of India' which still exists as a government body today, BTW) I though educated Hindus hated Lord Curzon for the division of Bengal but poor Bengali Muslim peasants loved him for it.

    There is something about Indian attitude to power and wealth . It is nothing but expression of inherent impotence , flattery , moral corruption and lack of any emotional control .

    Don’t be surprised if one day we see these statues getting firebombed , being set on fire, or getting trampled by dog’s feet .
     
    That is possible but only time will tell.

    A lot of Muslim leaders used to be called Bhagwan by a lot of Hindus .
    Once I get the source I will post the link.

    Lord Curzon’s whatever achievement might have been did not qualify his elevation to god thing.
    Education has nothing to do it. It’s the tendency to elevate people and the tendency to degrade people – both are peculiar facets of Hinduism , that have not changed yet.

    Indian gov had to intervene few years back to destroy a temple that was housing the idol of Modi presumably for worship.

  257. @Reg Cæsar

    That seems to be one truism of Indian immigrants. They aren’t after the white girl. They will marry Indian girl...
     
    The first sister of a friend dated a white South American, from Colombia or Ecuador, whom she strung along then cruelly dumped. She also dated a guy from India off-and-on who did the same to her, to marry a cousin. I forget in which order this happened.

    She ended up with a well-off white nerd from the Bay Area whose parents bit their tongues and indulged her as she was their last chance for grandchildren. They had two girls in her mid'40s. Her big sister also married late and miscarried her only child. Little brother had three, but one was killed when the family's car got caught between two others in a road rage derby on the Interstate. Little little brother, who lost his father as a baby, has at least one child now, so that's five grandchildren from four children.

    At least that's an increase. The friend who introduced me to them was one of seven who had six, and her cousin was one of five who produced one of two, not counting an adoptee from a basket on a Chinese road. These two were the smartest families I've known, a tiebreaker who came home to the farm, and two scientists who married young.

    Dysgenesis in action. I swore I'd help make up the deficit. We're up to three.

    Thanks. I have a fair few female friends from college days who are (and now always will be) childless, including a couple who were real head-turners and are pretty good looking in their 50s. Not reproducing was an absolute crime against their genes.

    • Replies: @anon
    Most of the Trump supporters I have met and interacted with are ethnically from Hungary Poland , Italy , Greece or Lithuania . These Trumks supporters are different from Irish , British and German background .
    Later focus more on job and corruption ,tend to support Israel less ,and tend less to worry about gender sex lesbian but they hate immigrants from everywhere excepting Nordic or Irish -British lineage .
    Hungarian Polish and other East Europeans have a fear of being obliterated by Mexican and blacks .Racism is more overt among them .
    They also think that they are true white western and the last hope against degeneration and foreign invasion . But unlike the Irish -English , they are very passionate about supporting wars in Arab countries .
    , @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    How many of their unborn babies did they abort (kill) along the way?

    Frankly I'm not interested in having kids either but I also think it's a crime to not pass on my genes. Going to brazil (or anywhere) to help white women make white babies is a real interesting possibility for me.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Not reproducing was an absolute crime against their genes.
     
    Roman Catholics had the right idea. Celibacy is right for some, and useful, but the siblings have to make up for it. They don't anymore.

    Vermont kept up her population because when eight kids left the farm for other states, the other four or five or six stayed.
    , @Corvinus
    "Not reproducing was an absolute crime against their genes."

    I understand the sentiment, but there is no need for hyperbole. I know of two couples who are above average in looks and IQ...but they are completely into themselves and lacked the inherent nurturing quality required to raise offspring.
  258. @Just Passing Through
    There is also this guy.

    https://www.theindianwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/hrithik_Roshan__.jpg


    What about Indian actor Jugal Hansraj?

  259. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/juliaoftoronto/status/1231616247881764864

    OT: Something directly from “Outbreak”:

    Deputy Health Minister of #Iran Harirchi who is infected with #CoronaVirus had a joint presser along with spokesman of the government Rabiei yesterday among journalists. A footage published earlier had raised suspicion that he might had been infected with the virus.

    That takes care of the Iranian government then.

  260. @Thomm
    You are, of course, correct.

    I said very similar things to you, and these morons actually think I am a South Asian* (except the half of the time they say I am Jewish), despite NOTHING about my 2000+ comments being anything close to what a South Asian might write (not a single South Asian commenters thinks I am South Asian). It is harder for me to prove I am not Jewish, but whatever.

    You might get branded the same.

    I then realized that for all the complaining that WNs do about blacks, if there is one thing they hate more than a poor, dysfunctional, violent minority, it is a high-income, well-behaved minority?

    Why?

    Because they are socialist moochers who want handouts from functional white people like you and I. As a wise man once said, "99% of White Trashionalism is the bottom decile of white men getting angry that the bottom decile of white women are now allowed to avoid them." Hence, a successful minority, whether Jews, Chinese, or South Asian, is too complicated for their 70-IQ minds to process.

    *To be fair, Ron Unz once claimed I was a South Asian just to troll the WNs (which is the primary purpose of this website after all). He of course tacitly admitted that he just said this to troll the WNs (RUnzie Baby and I are and always have been in cahoots), but they had already memorized the brainwashing, so now obsess over that.

    I would be more impressed if they at least had the creativity to call me a Nazgul, Olog-Hai, Klingon, Romulan, Cardassian, or Flying Purple People Eater. That would be no less inaccurate.

    Rather trollish of you: “White nationalist types have said some bad things, so it’s okay if they get destroyed by immigration.”

    By some measures, human economy is fast becoming the care and feeding of a socialized 70 IQ class; probably best to keep it a white one.

    Even with our various model minorities being net taxpayers: that’s a low bar; they are not necessarily doing work we really need, or could do otherwise; we’re better off in the long run not importing demographic-changing levels of them.

    • Replies: @anon
    bomag @Thomm
    Rather trollish of you

    Ya think?
    Trolls gonna troll.
  261. @JUSA
    More like they'll marry an Indian spouse from back home, of the right caste, as arranged by the parents. And the parents are no longer just "visiting". All the builders in our area are building homes with finished basements, because the people now buying these homes - Indians and Chinese, are all bringing the parents over to live/babysit/collect social security.

    You can’t get social security baby sitting your grandchildren even if paid to do so. One clever part of the tax code. You have to come up with some other scam.

    My wife, from Latvia, doesn’t want her mom living with us, so I pay for a one bedroom for her in Brighton Beach. Long baby sitting commute for her but she likes being near Eastern Europeans. And she’s not in social security.

  262. @Reg Cæsar

    That seems to be one truism of Indian immigrants. They aren’t after the white girl. They will marry Indian girl...
     
    The first sister of a friend dated a white South American, from Colombia or Ecuador, whom she strung along then cruelly dumped. She also dated a guy from India off-and-on who did the same to her, to marry a cousin. I forget in which order this happened.

    She ended up with a well-off white nerd from the Bay Area whose parents bit their tongues and indulged her as she was their last chance for grandchildren. They had two girls in her mid'40s. Her big sister also married late and miscarried her only child. Little brother had three, but one was killed when the family's car got caught between two others in a road rage derby on the Interstate. Little little brother, who lost his father as a baby, has at least one child now, so that's five grandchildren from four children.

    At least that's an increase. The friend who introduced me to them was one of seven who had six, and her cousin was one of five who produced one of two, not counting an adoptee from a basket on a Chinese road. These two were the smartest families I've known, a tiebreaker who came home to the farm, and two scientists who married young.

    Dysgenesis in action. I swore I'd help make up the deficit. We're up to three.

    My parents had 4 kids, 9 grandkids. From 28 to 3. 5 boys. No great grandkids yet. Slackers.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    Must be a real sausage-fest!

    Also, are any of these boys gay, bi, and/or trans?
  263. @Malla

    Muslim rulers in India used to be called Bhagwan by some Hindus .
     
    Really? I am not aware of this. You have any sources. I find this very strange.

    Lord Curzon and other British dignitaries received similar adulations .
     
    This is possible but only selective British dignitaries, Lord Lytton for example, who is often blamed for being insensitive about Indian famines (which historically is not true) was given such adulation because when he went on a tour to a famine area in the south, Madras presidency (or was it West in Bombay) suddenly rain fell and the villagers though of him as a good omen / god like figure. John Nicholson of the Mutiny days, had a cult who worshiped him called the 'Nikal Seynis' which existed upto this century.
    Why was Lord Curzon adulated? Because he passed the Indian Monument preservation act to preserve historical Indian monuments and starting the ASI? (ASI='Archaeological Survey of India' which still exists as a government body today, BTW) I though educated Hindus hated Lord Curzon for the division of Bengal but poor Bengali Muslim peasants loved him for it.

    There is something about Indian attitude to power and wealth . It is nothing but expression of inherent impotence , flattery , moral corruption and lack of any emotional control .

    Don’t be surprised if one day we see these statues getting firebombed , being set on fire, or getting trampled by dog’s feet .
     
    That is possible but only time will tell.

    Bhagbwan was possibly more of a mark of significance ,, absloute power ,and righteousness. Hindus have called their rulers also same .

    Indira Gandhi was the last ruler I know who was called Godddess Durga after 1971 Indo- Pak war openly by other including future prime minister M Desai .

    God King as a concept reached its zenith in Cambodia – Laos- Thailand region in 1300 AD.
    But those Kings were IndIn expatriates .
    Worshipping the holy men are not uncommon .

    • Thanks: Malla
  264. @Corvinus
    That’s what the WASPs said about Eastern and Southern Europeans. Italians, Poles, and Slavs were not part of this American interest. And we’ve been paying the price ever since, according to nativists’ calculus.

    That’s what the WASPs said about Eastern and Southern Europeans. Italians, Poles, and Slavs were not part of this American interest. And we’ve been paying the price ever since, according to nativists’ calculus.

    Yes, of course. European immigrants who came during the era of rapid Industrialization and Urbanization are exactly the same phenomenon as immigrants today.

    And as we all know, the children of Poles, Italians and Slavs immediately became Doctors, Lawyers and Indian Chiefs and lorded their social position over their native neighbors.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    I love when liberals trot out the "your ancestor was an immigrant too" argument. When that immigration wave came from Europe, the US did not have a welfare state, nor did it have a truly globalized economy, nor did automation and technology come close to resembling anything that exists today. That's not nothing, you know?

    Whatever your own personal beliefs about assimilation and social coherence, if you seriously believe that immigration policy logic from 120 years ago is still applicable today, you are too dumb to be bothered with.

    , @Jack D
    So, basically there are two kinds of immigrants and they are both bad. The first kind of immigrant is bad because they are dumber than us and so must steal and go on welfare to survive. The other kind of immigrant is bad because they are smarter than us and lord it over us. Since all immigrants are either smarter or dumber than average Americans, we shouldn't take any of them. USCIS should have two rubber stamps with which to stamp all immigration applications - one would read REJECTED - TOO DUMB and the other would read REJECTED - TOO SMART.
    , @Corvinus
    "Yes, of course. European immigrants who came during the era of rapid Industrialization and Urbanization are exactly the same phenomenon as immigrants today."

    Amazing how the ancestors of undesirables became Americanized (magic dirt?) despite nativist sentiments, and how their offspring in some cases harbor similar resentment and hostility toward newcomers.

    "And as we all know, the children of Poles, Italians and Slavs immediately became Doctors, Lawyers and Indian Chiefs and lorded their social position over their native neighbors."

    Not immediately. It took time. And according to "Heritage Americans", those positions were to be exclusively for their offspring, not interlopers.
    , @JohnnyWalker123

    And as we all know, the children of Poles, Italians and Slavs immediately became Doctors, Lawyers and Indian Chiefs and lorded their social position over their native neighbors.

     

    A lot of their kids became mafioso, radical subversives, or ethno-political hustlers. In some ways, even worse than our current waves of Hispanics, Asians, and Subcons. They were not perceived positively by the Anglo-Germanic masses.

    However, back then, there was less PC in this country. Also, labor unions were stronger and more responsive to their grassroots. So immigration was strongly curtailed by the 1924 immigration act.

    WWII created an atmosphere of national solidarity, so the rest of the country became more willing to offer PC platitudes to the Ellis Island wave. That's when you began to see all these WWII movies with various ethnic characters (tough Irishman, ebullient Italian, folksy Southerner) who initially are skeptical of each other, but learn to work together and become friends at the end.

    There was more pressure to assimilate back then too. Up through the 60s (and to some extent the 70s and 80s), it was considered unseemly for Ellis Islanders to be assertive of their ethnic identity. There was an expectation that you should make a good faith effort to be an American. You could take pride in being from NYC or Boston or wherever, but tribalism was seen in a negative light.

    Back then, it was the Anglos who took a lot of pride in their ethnic identity. So even a symbol like the Confederate Flag was considered okay.

    During the 90s and 2000s, everything changed. If someone from 1990 took a time machine to 2020, he wouldn't believe what he was seeing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl-QQQlG60o
  265. @AaronB

    A bright white boy shouldn’t have to eschew baseball pr friendships or chasing girls or reading for pleasure because he’s losing ground to the kids of Indian immigrants who are cramming in some miserable zero sum cut throat competition.
     
    Sure, but if America sealed its borders so that we can adopt a more relaxed and leisurely lifestyle, we would become less competitive globally against other countries.

    So competition is gonna happen one way or another. Either between groups within America or between a white America and other countries.

    Now I for one think it's a perfectly legitimate choice to accept being less wealthy and less competitive in order to have a better quality of life, but let's be clear that we're making that choice.

    So the choice seems to be - whites as a group within America can accept a lower standard of living relative to other groups within America in exchange for a more relaxed lifestyle, or America as a white country can accept a lower standard of living relative to other countries in exchange for a more relaxed lifestyle.

    The growing white preference for a relaxed lifestyle, which has been growing since early last century, is at least partly why the elite want to import more ambitious workers.

    Sure, but if America sealed its borders so that we can adopt a more relaxed and leisurely lifestyle, we would become less competitive globally against other countries.

    Is it a “relaxed and leisurely lifestyle” for a bright boy to play baseball, have friends, kiss girls and read Hardy Boys books because he likes them in addition to his studies?

    It seems to me that in the 1950s and 1960s the U.S. was dominant globally and its boys played baseball.

    Perhaps the idea of a society isn’t to engage in an eternal zero sum struggle in every aspect of life? Maybe what we should have is a culture which isn’t obsessively entirely directed to producing cubicle-dwelling wage slaves for maximizing GDP?

    Do you really think the ultra competitive cramming Asians in the U.S. (dots and chopsticks) are having a grand old time doing it? Do you suppose that the Tiger Parenting model involves not a small amount of what most people would consider mental and emotional abuse of children, without accounting for the possibility that the abuse involves a physical element as well?

    • Replies: @AaronB
    I also prefer the kind of life you describe to the culture of soulless grind. And I think Asians prefer it too - traditional Asian culture celebrates a life of refined artistic leisure in beautiful natural settings, or a life of contemplation.

    The Asian grind today is an understandable response to being humiliated by the West in the 19th century. It is making many Asians miserable. And I don't think Asians have any special aptitude for STEM - their traditional culture is explicitly hostile to excessive logic and rationality, and explicitly hostile to excessive engineering.

    You are telling me that a people that for milllenia despised excessively logical thinking, and despised interfering too much with nature through engineering, has a special aptitude for just those thing. No - Asians grind at STEM precisely because it is the key to modern power, and the key to self defense, while being something their traditional culture is deficient in.

    However, your own ideal has a contradiction - you want the "good life" but also want to be dominant globally. That can't happen. The 1950s in America was a time of grim and serious grind and amibition - so much so that that the 60s revolution tried to sweep all that away, basing itself ironically in classic Asian cultural texts.

    So we do have a choice to make - but it doesn't have to be a hard choice. We can still be wealthy and competitive, but place the emphasis on the good life - which simply means no longer dominant or super-wealthy.
  266. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    I love you Donald Trump!!! Now give me visa please I leave this sh!thole come America at once, I program many computer for you get scholarship big American university marry many white girls I love you Donald Trump! please give me visa get me out of sh!thole NOW!!

    Learn to say that you can code!

  267. @MG
    I worked in Silicon Valley for 25 years. 98% of H-1B Indians wouldn’t have gotten into this country in the pre-1990 regime when there were quality filters in place. In those days to come to America you had to be academically among the toppers to get an assistantship or a fellowship. Indian parents didn’t have money to pay for their offspring’s education abroad. In the 1990s the USA tossed out its standards and opened the floodgates. Every Sharma and Rao can now take the next Air India flight out.

    One other thing: the state of restrooms at Indian-heavy companies in the Valley - o brother.

    Yeah, I’ve noticed there’s a huge difference in the quality of the immigrants from the subcontinent that came during the 1970s/1980s and those that came after the Cold War ended. The former tended to be a very intellectually high-horsepower bunch, largely because if they weren’t, they wouldn’t have qualified for immigration under the pre-1990 regime.

    Lot of scientists in particular.

  268. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    That’s what the WASPs said about Eastern and Southern Europeans. Italians, Poles, and Slavs were not part of this American interest. And we’ve been paying the price ever since, according to nativists’ calculus.
     
    Yes, of course. European immigrants who came during the era of rapid Industrialization and Urbanization are exactly the same phenomenon as immigrants today.

    And as we all know, the children of Poles, Italians and Slavs immediately became Doctors, Lawyers and Indian Chiefs and lorded their social position over their native neighbors.

    I love when liberals trot out the “your ancestor was an immigrant too” argument. When that immigration wave came from Europe, the US did not have a welfare state, nor did it have a truly globalized economy, nor did automation and technology come close to resembling anything that exists today. That’s not nothing, you know?

    Whatever your own personal beliefs about assimilation and social coherence, if you seriously believe that immigration policy logic from 120 years ago is still applicable today, you are too dumb to be bothered with.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "I love when liberals trot out the “your ancestor was an immigrant too” argument."

    Except I'm not a liberal.

    "When that immigration wave came from Europe, the US did not have a welfare state..."

    No, but it did have political bosses doling out favors and jobs in the late 1800's. And please note that relief for the poor, needy, and immigrants was primarily a function of local and state governments at this time.

    You may be surprised that our federal government was involved in several programs designed to help certain groups which laid the ground work for this "welfare state".

    https://scholarworks.wmich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=2035&context=jssw

    "nor did it have a truly globalized economy"

    So what in your view constitutes a "truly globalized economy"?

    "nor did automation and technology come close to resembling anything that exists today. That’s not nothing, you know?"

    Indeed.

    "Whatever your own personal beliefs about assimilation and social coherence, if you seriously believe that immigration policy logic from 120 years ago is still applicable today, you are too dumb to be bothered with."

    Except that is not the entire argument I am making. What I find deliciously hypocritical is the progeny of immigrants today make the claim how the dark Kenyans and squatty Guatemalans are incapable of assimilating...when their ancestors had been on the receiving end of such charges compliments of nativists.

    Magic dirt anyone?
  269. @Reg Cæsar
    If you get the impression Somalis might be avoiding American blacks... however, they are better off in Minnesota, where there are some native blacks with which to be favorably compared, than in lily-white Maine. The Maine ones escaped Atlanta, a really unwise choice, but went to the other extreme, just as unwise.

    The worst thing about Somalis isn't their blackness, it's Islam. The best thing is their clannishness, truly a feature rather than a bug.

    You know a state is small--and unattractive-- when Bhutanese dominate. The country has a population near Vermont's or North Dakota's in size.

    The worst thing about Somalis isn’t their blackness, rather it is their presence in the US at all, where their tribalism is doing long term damage.

    Fixed. No charge.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    ...where their tribalism is doing long term damage.
     
    No, Hindu, Paki, Arab, Han, Ashkenazi, and various other tribalisms are doing us long-term damage. Somalis don't have the talent to pull anything like that off. Therefore, their clannishness is a plus, for us.


    Black separatism will never get off the ground because they know white support for it will be so strong. Same with Puerto Rican independence. Give Somalis credit for not embracing us the way others have.

  270. @bomag
    Rather trollish of you: "White nationalist types have said some bad things, so it's okay if they get destroyed by immigration."

    By some measures, human economy is fast becoming the care and feeding of a socialized 70 IQ class; probably best to keep it a white one.

    Even with our various model minorities being net taxpayers: that's a low bar; they are not necessarily doing work we really need, or could do otherwise; we're better off in the long run not importing demographic-changing levels of them.

    bomag
    Rather trollish of you

    Ya think?
    Trolls gonna troll.

  271. anon[380] • Disclaimer says:
    @YetAnotherAnon
    Thanks. I have a fair few female friends from college days who are (and now always will be) childless, including a couple who were real head-turners and are pretty good looking in their 50s. Not reproducing was an absolute crime against their genes.

    Most of the Trump supporters I have met and interacted with are ethnically from Hungary Poland , Italy , Greece or Lithuania . These Trumks supporters are different from Irish , British and German background .
    Later focus more on job and corruption ,tend to support Israel less ,and tend less to worry about gender sex lesbian but they hate immigrants from everywhere excepting Nordic or Irish -British lineage .
    Hungarian Polish and other East Europeans have a fear of being obliterated by Mexican and blacks .Racism is more overt among them .
    They also think that they are true white western and the last hope against degeneration and foreign invasion . But unlike the Irish -English , they are very passionate about supporting wars in Arab countries .

  272. “I hope none of the millions of Indians who assembled to see Trump’s motorcade has coronavirus.”

    Steve Sailer, you are a world leader at noticing things.

    I have some thoughts that may be worth spreading regarding public health. Steve, are you noticing what I am noticing?

    I think there is a good theory that Coronavirus does not thrive in warm, humid conditions.

    Think about it:
    (1) No new cases in Singapore. Where it seemed like COVID-19 was on the loose and going exponential there, it instead stopped and there have been no deaths, and most have already recovered. Singapore is tropical.

    (2) There seems to be no outbreak in Africa, where China has a massive presence and travel with China is open. Nothing has been reported in India with its subtropical climate. Is this simply due to lack of testing? If people were falling to pneumonia, it would be noticed, right?

    (3) COVID-19 seems to affect mainly temperate places in winter.

    (4) Cold and flu season is the cold winter months, where the air is dry. Cold, dry conditions seem to be optimum for cold and flu-type viral outbreaks.

    This shows several things:

    (1) Individuals, organizations and hospitals can probably achieve a lot of protection by humidifying indoors.

    (2) Relief may be coming in late spring and summer

    (3) COVID-19 may roar back next fall and winter after a summer lull

    (4) Authorities would basically have the summer to get their act together and come up with a vaccine or cure fast before fall and winter brings it back.

    Steve, how do your powers of noticing process this?

    • Agree: Jack D
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    ACE2 Receptors
    , @Jack Henson
    Chile just reported a cluster. Its 83 degrees there. Also you are conflating the idea that because there are no numbers, there is no virus. How much testing is being done in Africa, really? How much reporting is honest?

    The US is testing 17 people a day, that does not mean it is out and about. We really don't have a number of how many are in the US because the State Dept doesn't want the cases it has brought in counted.

    After the gross malfeasance of the past decade you think the FedGov is going to be able to fix this? C'mon.
  273. @Anon
    White people don't drive taxis or run 711s either. Mexicans do a lot of the dirty work that Whitey won't touch.

    Whites still do those jobs, and did them universally before squeezed out.

  274. @Reg Cæsar

    Reddy = Reddy caste, Telugu speaking Kulak ( big farmer )
     
    I always thought the Reddys were in an entirely different field.


    https://i.etsystatic.com/12344670/r/il/fee5d6/1613631163/il_570xN.1613631163_p9nb.jpg

  275. @Malla
    I say, Trump is admired in India among right winged folks is because he is perceived as anti-Muslim and anti-China.
    Secondly Indians, especially youth do tend to like outspoken firebrand politicians who speak their mind.
    There was a leader of a Right winged party in the Western state of Maharashtra (the state whose capital is Mumbai or earlier Bombay) named Balasaheb Thackeray who was very outspoken who cut the crap and got to the point. Was very popular with the youth then.
    Trump is very similar and hence he is popular amongst Indian youth.
    This could also explain why Hitler is so popular in India too. Actually Balasaheb Thakaray himself was an admirer of Adolf Hitler praising the Fuhrer often.
    Well whatever good or bad you say about Indians, the Indian common man on the streets/villages is shrewd & practical and cannot be fooled by bullshit, the kind of bullshit which easily fools White libtards. I remember telling that annoying idiot poster Corvinus a long time ago on Unz, that had he spewed his multicultural leftard bullshit in a bazaar in India, the people would have burst out laughing and then dumped him in a mental institution. Indians can smell the bullshit in such dumb libtard ideas miles away and do not get easily fooled by this, a kind of earthy traditional wisdom about human nature which childish White libtards lack. And they love direct speaking politicians like Balasaheb Thackeray and Donald Trump who do not speak diplomatically.

    Lower IQ people seem to be more in touch with reality that high IQ people, who tend to get caught up with abstract theories and ideas.

    • Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    It depends. I think there are different ranges.

    The lowest IQ whites are wiggers/drug addicts. No different than the average black.

    Then there is the sweet spot, maybe 90-105 IQ - basically, the average MAGA voter. Alot are brainwashed but they do have an instinctive grip on reality.

    The problem whites are 105-120 IQ. They think they are intellectually superior, and make up the vast majority of the leftist managerial class, self hating whites, and anti white soccer moms.

    Once you get up over 120 IQ it really is a mixed bag. But there is a larger number than you think, who are quite aware, albeit very quietly, of what's going on. Pattern recognition is, after all, the basis of IQ.

    So no, I don't blame high IQ white people, I blame the 105-120 IQ whites who think they are smart.
    , @J.Ross
    Loutish is right but I will try to be more precise: it's effectively not possible for low-IQ people to be firmly and constantly in touch with reality.
    The issue isn't really IQ here. The proper word for "in touch with reality," or street smarts, or learning physically and empirically, is phronesis. People at all IQs can learn from phronesis (higher IQs can learn faster and hopefully permanently). Our society suffers because of midwits and high-IQ credentialists hermetically sealed off from phronesis.
  276. @anonymous

    how unpopular Muslims have made Islam in much of the world
     
    Muslims are simply reacting to the evil they have to endure from the pagan/godless Islamophobic peoples who sense a threat from the true monotheism of Islam. It is going to be a long struggle to convert the lot of your descendants (most like you are irredeemable).

    In the meantime, we muslims will continue to worship the One God of all existence, and to humbly earn our ticket to Paradise, Almighty One willing, while all you pagan/godless Islamophobes can expect is a one way ticket to Hell, Almighty One willing. We will have the last laugh.


    while the secure and honest abroad allow their admiration to become obvious.
     
    Trump is quite evidently an amoral lowlife (grab 'em by the pu**y, yeah!). What does it say about those who admire him? It's truly pathetic.

    The only major thing people like about Muslim countries is how emotionally intense they are. I find it creepy and infantile, but some love all of the alternately pompous grandiose aggressive alternately wailing and gnashing of teeth victimey psycho-drama. They think it is authentic.

    Other than that, there is some credibility that comes from swanning around with oil money, I suppose.

    Neither are going to work out well for those countries. Shouting nonsense while jabbing your finger in the air is not a great substitute for competence.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    The only major thing people like about Muslim countries is how emotionally intense they are......They think it is authentic.
     
    You forgot the completely overrated cuisine.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    The only major thing people like about Muslim countries is how emotionally intense they are. I find it creepy and infantile...
     
    Prepare to be seriously creeped out:


    The Dancing Boys of Afghanistan

    This was produced by a grown man who calls himself "Jamie", which is creepy enough. But this Jamie can be forgiven, having served us in this way.
  277. @Malla
    What about Nuristanis of Afghanistan?
    https://thewanderingfoxy.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/boy-from-nuristan-afghanistan-1992-c2a9-steve-mccurry.jpg?w=819

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6J4w_8CUAA1gqN.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/77/50/24/7750245832e824a26bb23427aef6ab59.jpg

    Once known as Kafiristan, they were the last Afghans to fight Islamisation. Only when the muslim Afghans got European guns, were they subdued and converted. And they gave the Soviets some of the greatest resistance in war.

    I did mention the Kalasha of Pakistan, who I think are related to the Nuristanis.

  278. @J.Ross
    Rumor: Corona is fake (or not all that big a deal) but it's an alibi -- for the rounding-up and Yezhoving of wrongthinkers, whose identities have been carefully collected through the Machines, and whose abrupt silence will be unquestioningly accepted given the whole pandemic thingamabob.
    Recall what Conan said about foregone conclusions: all the more reason to fight!
    MY ANCESTORS FINALLY WILL SMILE ON ME

    Recall what Conan said about foregone conclusions: all the more reason to fight!

    Huh?

  279. @YetAnotherAnon
    Thanks. I have a fair few female friends from college days who are (and now always will be) childless, including a couple who were real head-turners and are pretty good looking in their 50s. Not reproducing was an absolute crime against their genes.

    How many of their unborn babies did they abort (kill) along the way?

    Frankly I’m not interested in having kids either but I also think it’s a crime to not pass on my genes. Going to brazil (or anywhere) to help white women make white babies is a real interesting possibility for me.

  280. @Hhsiii
    My parents had 4 kids, 9 grandkids. From 28 to 3. 5 boys. No great grandkids yet. Slackers.

    Must be a real sausage-fest!

    Also, are any of these boys gay, bi, and/or trans?

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    Nope. Oldest boy is only 26 so there’s time. Oldest girl is 28 and dating a separated but not divorced 44 year old with 2 kids and try have been dating 4 years. I say nothing but I leave it to the women folk to tell her he needs an ultimatum.

    I have 3 kids. Daughter going on 11, boys 6 and 4. My sisters’ kids are the slackers.
  281. @Just Passing Through
    Lower IQ people seem to be more in touch with reality that high IQ people, who tend to get caught up with abstract theories and ideas.

    It depends. I think there are different ranges.

    The lowest IQ whites are wiggers/drug addicts. No different than the average black.

    Then there is the sweet spot, maybe 90-105 IQ – basically, the average MAGA voter. Alot are brainwashed but they do have an instinctive grip on reality.

    The problem whites are 105-120 IQ. They think they are intellectually superior, and make up the vast majority of the leftist managerial class, self hating whites, and anti white soccer moms.

    Once you get up over 120 IQ it really is a mixed bag. But there is a larger number than you think, who are quite aware, albeit very quietly, of what’s going on. Pattern recognition is, after all, the basis of IQ.

    So no, I don’t blame high IQ white people, I blame the 105-120 IQ whites who think they are smart.

    • Replies: @Cowboy shaw
    This is my theory too.
    , @The Wild Geese Howard

    The problem whites are 105-120 IQ. They think they are intellectually superior, and make up the vast majority of the leftist managerial class, self hating whites, and anti white soccer moms.
     
    I believe you are referring to what has been described as the IYI class, IYI standing for, "Intelligent, Yet Idiots."
  282. “I hope none of the millions of Indians who assembled to see Trump’s motorcade has coronavirus.”

    Steve Sailer.

    He can secure some deal about his housing and other projects despite the brand getting radioactive even in India.

    “After a “furious” call from Trump, which ended abruptly when the U.S. president “slammed down the phone,” Johnson has since postponed his planned visit next month to Washington.
    Therefore, Trump’s frank remarks about his forthcoming India visit on February 24-25 to Ahmedabad, Gujarat, should not come as a surprise. In response to a query from the media, he said on February 18:
    “Well, we can have a trade deal with India, but I’m really saving the big deal for later on. We’re doing a very big trade deal with India. We’ll have it. I don’t know if it’ll be done before the election, but we’ll have a very big trade deal with India.
    “We’re not treated very well by India, but I happen to like Prime Minister Modi a lot. And he told me we’ll have 7 million people between the airport and the event. And the stadium, I understand, is sort of semi under construction, but it’s going to be the largest stadium in the world. So it’s going to be very exciting. But he says between the stadium and the airport, we’ll have about 7 million people. So it’s going to be very exciting. I hope you all enjoy it.”-

    Suffice it to say, this visit needs to be seen as a favor he’s doing for Modi, whose invitation once as chief guest on Republic Day he’d turned down.
    Trump sounded like the badshah (king) out to enjoy himself on an exciting hunting trip and is looking forward to much self-gratification, all arranged at no personal cost to himself.

    — M. K. Bhadrakumar. https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/02/24/how-indias-modi-is-playing-on-trumps-ego-to-his-advantage/

    • Replies: @peterike
    Wow, quoting extensively from propaganda rag Counter Punch. Very convincing.
  283. @Dan
    "I hope none of the millions of Indians who assembled to see Trump’s motorcade has coronavirus."

    Steve Sailer, you are a world leader at noticing things.

    I have some thoughts that may be worth spreading regarding public health. Steve, are you noticing what I am noticing?

    I think there is a good theory that Coronavirus does not thrive in warm, humid conditions.

    Think about it:
    (1) No new cases in Singapore. Where it seemed like COVID-19 was on the loose and going exponential there, it instead stopped and there have been no deaths, and most have already recovered. Singapore is tropical.

    (2) There seems to be no outbreak in Africa, where China has a massive presence and travel with China is open. Nothing has been reported in India with its subtropical climate. Is this simply due to lack of testing? If people were falling to pneumonia, it would be noticed, right?

    (3) COVID-19 seems to affect mainly temperate places in winter.

    (4) Cold and flu season is the cold winter months, where the air is dry. Cold, dry conditions seem to be optimum for cold and flu-type viral outbreaks.

    This shows several things:

    (1) Individuals, organizations and hospitals can probably achieve a lot of protection by humidifying indoors.

    (2) Relief may be coming in late spring and summer

    (3) COVID-19 may roar back next fall and winter after a summer lull

    (4) Authorities would basically have the summer to get their act together and come up with a vaccine or cure fast before fall and winter brings it back.

    Steve, how do your powers of noticing process this?

    ACE2 Receptors

  284. @YetAnotherAnon
    Thanks. I have a fair few female friends from college days who are (and now always will be) childless, including a couple who were real head-turners and are pretty good looking in their 50s. Not reproducing was an absolute crime against their genes.

    Not reproducing was an absolute crime against their genes.

    Roman Catholics had the right idea. Celibacy is right for some, and useful, but the siblings have to make up for it. They don’t anymore.

    Vermont kept up her population because when eight kids left the farm for other states, the other four or five or six stayed.

  285. @Dan
    "I hope none of the millions of Indians who assembled to see Trump’s motorcade has coronavirus."

    Steve Sailer, you are a world leader at noticing things.

    I have some thoughts that may be worth spreading regarding public health. Steve, are you noticing what I am noticing?

    I think there is a good theory that Coronavirus does not thrive in warm, humid conditions.

    Think about it:
    (1) No new cases in Singapore. Where it seemed like COVID-19 was on the loose and going exponential there, it instead stopped and there have been no deaths, and most have already recovered. Singapore is tropical.

    (2) There seems to be no outbreak in Africa, where China has a massive presence and travel with China is open. Nothing has been reported in India with its subtropical climate. Is this simply due to lack of testing? If people were falling to pneumonia, it would be noticed, right?

    (3) COVID-19 seems to affect mainly temperate places in winter.

    (4) Cold and flu season is the cold winter months, where the air is dry. Cold, dry conditions seem to be optimum for cold and flu-type viral outbreaks.

    This shows several things:

    (1) Individuals, organizations and hospitals can probably achieve a lot of protection by humidifying indoors.

    (2) Relief may be coming in late spring and summer

    (3) COVID-19 may roar back next fall and winter after a summer lull

    (4) Authorities would basically have the summer to get their act together and come up with a vaccine or cure fast before fall and winter brings it back.

    Steve, how do your powers of noticing process this?

    Chile just reported a cluster. Its 83 degrees there. Also you are conflating the idea that because there are no numbers, there is no virus. How much testing is being done in Africa, really? How much reporting is honest?

    The US is testing 17 people a day, that does not mean it is out and about. We really don’t have a number of how many are in the US because the State Dept doesn’t want the cases it has brought in counted.

    After the gross malfeasance of the past decade you think the FedGov is going to be able to fix this? C’mon.

  286. @Malla

    “The Indians are bastards anyway… They are the most aggressive goddamn people around.” – Henry Kissinger
     
    Indians on Henry Slimeball Kissinger
    "Henry is slippery, treacherous bastard anyways"
    Prime Minister of Rhodesia Ian Smith, most world leaders and the White farmers of Zimbabwe amongst many would all nod in agreement.

    “I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion.” – Winston Churchill.
     
    Indians on Winston Churchill, the drunk bum
    "We hate Winston. He is a beastly man with a beastly love for War"
    Adolf Hitler, the people of Dresden, the gassed people of Iraq, many WW2 British vets who regret fighting in the war would all nod in agreement.

    many WW2 British vets who regret fighting in the war

    Who are these vets who regretted saving their country from eternal Nazi rule? I’ve never met one.

    • Replies: @Just Passing Through
    Hitler proffered many peace offers to Churchill between the invasion of Poland and the invasion of France. Hitler wanted Lebensraum in the East and saw Russia as the German analogue to British India.

    Hitler thought of North West Europeans as equals and had no desire to subjugate then, he actually envisioned a world where the British and Germans would rule together. Why do you think Hitler didn't order his Luftwaffe to completely annihilate the French and British armies at Dunkirk? If he really wanted to invade the UK, it would have been better off getting rid of their defensive force to make it easier for the German invaders. Instead he let them go and made a speech very soon afterwards begging, not as someone who was vanquished in battle, but as someone who stood tall in victory to accept peace and end the nonsense.

    Britain started taking a downwards trajectory right after the war ended, the doors were opened to mass non-white immigration in 1948 and the country had its face changed forever. Now we have terror attacks, child rape gangs and daily stabbings and gun crime. This is not to mention the severe downturn within the native British population itself as it has been slowly subjected to dysgenic measures which has allowed degeneracy to thrive.

    Here is a WW2 veteran, Walter Chamberlain who took part in the Normandy Landings (as part of the navy), his country that he fought for was changed and he was assaulted by Muslim youths while walking back from a rugby match, this occured when he was 76 years old

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1290000/images/_1294021_walter300.jpg

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1306543.stm

    David Irving once said


    If the British soldiers on the beaches of Normandy in 1944 could look forward to the end of the century and see what England has become, they would not have bothered to advance another 40 yards up the beach.
     
    He wasn't wrong. War veterans are famously reserved when it comes to talking about wars, I doubt any veteran would air such thoughts in public, but quietly, they must have thought about it and regretted it all.
    , @Malla
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1229643/This-isnt-Britain-fought-say-unknown-warriors-WWII.html

    'This isn't the Britain we fought for,' say the 'unknown warriors' of WWII

    Nearly 400,000 Britons died. Millions more were scarred by the experience, physically and mentally.

    But was it worth it? Her answer - and the answer of many of her contemporaries, now in their 80s and 90s - is a resounding No.

    They despise what has become of the Britain they once fought to save. It's not our country any more, they say, in sorrow and anger.

    Sarah harks back to the days when 'people kept the laws and were polite and courteous. We didn't have much money, but we were contented and happy.

    'People whistled and sang. There was still the United Kingdom, our country, which we had fought for, our freedom, democracy. But where is it now?!'

    ...snip...

    What is extraordinary about the 150 replies he received, which he has now published as a book, is their vehement insistence that those who made the ultimate sacrifice in the war would now be turning in their graves.

    There is the occasional bright spot - one veteran describes Britain as 'still the best country in the world' - but the overall tone is one of profound disillusionment.

    'I sing no song for the once-proud country that spawned me,' wrote a sailor who fought the Japanese in the Far East, 'and I wonder why I ever tried.'

    'My patriotism has gone out of the window,' said another ex-serviceman.

    ...snip....

    Her husband, a veteran of Dunkirk and Burma, died a disappointed man, believing that his seven years in the Army were wasted.

    'It is 18 years since I lost him and as I look around parts of Birmingham today you would never know you were in England,' she wrote.

    'He would have hated it. He also disliked the immoral way things are going. I don't think people are really happy now, for all the modern, easy-living conveniences.

    'I disagree with same-sex marriages, schoolgirl mothers, rubbish TV programmes, so-called celebrities and, most of all, unlimited immigration.
    , @anon
    I met a few Aussie veterans from that war who regretted it and the things they had to do to the end of their days.
    I was told that plenty of 14/18 war veterans were filthy about the Dardanelles Campaign, the management of the war in general, and Winston Churchill's role in particular.
  287. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    That’s what the WASPs said about Eastern and Southern Europeans. Italians, Poles, and Slavs were not part of this American interest. And we’ve been paying the price ever since, according to nativists’ calculus.
     
    Yes, of course. European immigrants who came during the era of rapid Industrialization and Urbanization are exactly the same phenomenon as immigrants today.

    And as we all know, the children of Poles, Italians and Slavs immediately became Doctors, Lawyers and Indian Chiefs and lorded their social position over their native neighbors.

    So, basically there are two kinds of immigrants and they are both bad. The first kind of immigrant is bad because they are dumber than us and so must steal and go on welfare to survive. The other kind of immigrant is bad because they are smarter than us and lord it over us. Since all immigrants are either smarter or dumber than average Americans, we shouldn’t take any of them. USCIS should have two rubber stamps with which to stamp all immigration applications – one would read REJECTED – TOO DUMB and the other would read REJECTED – TOO SMART.

    • Agree: Autochthon
    • LOL: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Rob
    Jack, are you just now catching on that a lot of people here want no immigrants of any sort for any reason?

    People are so interconnected now, and there are so many social programs, including public education, that the too dumb immigrants are so clearly a net negative that it astounds me that there is much disagreement, outside of politicians who need oligarch money. The too smart immigrants are a bit more complicated. They tend to come from the exploitive elites of low trust societies into a country where elite ethics, are, well, not what they could be. They are eligible for preferences from college admissions, to grad and professional schools, in employment, and government programs like small business financing, and contracting. Even the ones like Indians who do not receive AA in med school, their race and ethnicity doesn’t count against them, like it does for cishet white guys. Indians seem to hit the ground running for race hustling, and corporate exploitation.

    I think that, on the whole, even immigrants who are well above the white mean IQ are a net negative for Americans in the numbers they come in and the culture they join.

    I’m not a closed borders guy, though. I would happily let every Senator sponsor, say, ten immigrants a year who would only be allowed to reside in his state, and could even bring a spouse and even several minor children of the two parents. At those numbers, we would probably get more brilliant chemists than Guatemalan women and their bastards. But even if some Senators wanted to virtue signal and chose the Guatemalans, at only ten a year they wouldn’t be much of a burden.
    , @kaganovitch
    Since all immigrants are either smarter or dumber than average Americans, we shouldn’t take any of them. USCIS should have two rubber stamps with which to stamp all immigration applications – one would read REJECTED – TOO DUMB and the other would read REJECTED – TOO SMART.


    I read an anecdote about J Edgar Hoover, that when he suspected someone of being a "subversive" and had a wiretap authorized, he prepared two files. If the wiretap revealed subversion it was filed under subversive. If it didn't reveal subversion it was filed under cunning subversive.
    , @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    It doesn't matter. The important part is that they are not us. Why should we be inviting to foreign, alien groups?

    They are all a threat to my tribe. Why should I give them a leg up? How about your tribe? Is Israel opening its borders soon?

    Given that you are a member of one of these groups, your motivations seem pretty clear.

    , @Malla

    The other kind of immigrant is bad because they are smarter than us and lord it over us.
     
    It is not only being smart. It is a combination of smartness and clannishness, low morals etc... or a combination of any IQ with a hatred for the host population. The only people smarter on average then Gentile White Americans would be Ashkenazi Jews and North East Asians. IQ is not everything, character matters too because people of low morals destroy a high trust society and being a high trust society played an important part in making the nation so awesome (so that so many outsiders wants to migrate there), in the first place.
    People in Western Societies-Northern Europe, are not clannish as those which live in the "chutzpah world" (Middle East, Africa, South Asia etc....) and so are at a disadvantage when facing these immigrants. Populations there are more individualistic and when a local individual competes against an immigrant individual, he is actually competing as an individual against an entire clan with its network. Obviously the local will lose out at the end and the immigrant chutzpah folks will soon start taking over everything and lord over the natives even if they have lower average IQ than the hosts.
  288. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    It depends. I think there are different ranges.

    The lowest IQ whites are wiggers/drug addicts. No different than the average black.

    Then there is the sweet spot, maybe 90-105 IQ - basically, the average MAGA voter. Alot are brainwashed but they do have an instinctive grip on reality.

    The problem whites are 105-120 IQ. They think they are intellectually superior, and make up the vast majority of the leftist managerial class, self hating whites, and anti white soccer moms.

    Once you get up over 120 IQ it really is a mixed bag. But there is a larger number than you think, who are quite aware, albeit very quietly, of what's going on. Pattern recognition is, after all, the basis of IQ.

    So no, I don't blame high IQ white people, I blame the 105-120 IQ whites who think they are smart.

    This is my theory too.

    • Thanks: LoutishAngloQuebecker
  289. @Jack D

    many WW2 British vets who regret fighting in the war
     
    Who are these vets who regretted saving their country from eternal Nazi rule? I've never met one.

    Hitler proffered many peace offers to Churchill between the invasion of Poland and the invasion of France. Hitler wanted Lebensraum in the East and saw Russia as the German analogue to British India.

    Hitler thought of North West Europeans as equals and had no desire to subjugate then, he actually envisioned a world where the British and Germans would rule together. Why do you think Hitler didn’t order his Luftwaffe to completely annihilate the French and British armies at Dunkirk? If he really wanted to invade the UK, it would have been better off getting rid of their defensive force to make it easier for the German invaders. Instead he let them go and made a speech very soon afterwards begging, not as someone who was vanquished in battle, but as someone who stood tall in victory to accept peace and end the nonsense.

    Britain started taking a downwards trajectory right after the war ended, the doors were opened to mass non-white immigration in 1948 and the country had its face changed forever. Now we have terror attacks, child rape gangs and daily stabbings and gun crime. This is not to mention the severe downturn within the native British population itself as it has been slowly subjected to dysgenic measures which has allowed degeneracy to thrive.

    Here is a WW2 veteran, Walter Chamberlain who took part in the Normandy Landings (as part of the navy), his country that he fought for was changed and he was assaulted by Muslim youths while walking back from a rugby match, this occured when he was 76 years old

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1306543.stm

    David Irving once said

    If the British soldiers on the beaches of Normandy in 1944 could look forward to the end of the century and see what England has become, they would not have bothered to advance another 40 yards up the beach.

    He wasn’t wrong. War veterans are famously reserved when it comes to talking about wars, I doubt any veteran would air such thoughts in public, but quietly, they must have thought about it and regretted it all.

  290. @Lot
    “ Sounds pretty much like what Jews have done whenever they got a foothold in a particular industry. ”

    Turned NY’s finance, LA’s media, and the Bay Area’s software into world-dominating industries and created trillions in wealth for their countrymen?

    How awful!

    Turned NY’s finance, LA’s media, and the Bay Area’s software into world-dominating industries and created trillions in wealth for their countrymen?

    Turned NY’s finance
    >>> Deliberately outsourced American manufacturing and devastated millions of working class lives. Many American towns have never recovered. Unleashed countless predatory lending instruments. Take 20% interest from your credit card give you 0.5% on your savings account. Beggared millions of retirees.

    LA’s media,
    >>> Waged a relentless war on heritage white America. Promoted homosexuality, race mixing and every other perversion under the sun. Spread a continuous, toxic stew of anti-White, anti-male, anti-American propaganda all over the world.

    Bay Area’s software
    >>>> Outsourced and in-sourced millions of jobs to Indians, Chinese and others, taking good paying jobs from Americans and flooding the nation with troublesome Asians. Complacently allowed massive industrial espionage by Chinese and Israelis. Financially vigorous supporters of anti-white, GloboHomo, open borders. Ruthlessly censor pro-white and conservative points of view.

    But oh yay, trillions of dollars for their “countrymen”!

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    >>> Deliberately outsourced American manufacturing and devastated millions of working class lives. Many American towns have never recovered. Unleashed countless predatory lending instruments. Take 20% interest from your credit card give you 0.5% on your savings account. Beggared millions of retirees.

     

    To be fair, it wasn't all Jews.

    Lots of White Gentiles went along to line their pockets.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ41_S93df8

    http://thebaltimorechop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/romney-bain-capital-money-shot1.jpg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKbEqpAKk44
  291. @Mr. XYZ
    Must be a real sausage-fest!

    Also, are any of these boys gay, bi, and/or trans?

    Nope. Oldest boy is only 26 so there’s time. Oldest girl is 28 and dating a separated but not divorced 44 year old with 2 kids and try have been dating 4 years. I say nothing but I leave it to the women folk to tell her he needs an ultimatum.

    I have 3 kids. Daughter going on 11, boys 6 and 4. My sisters’ kids are the slackers.

  292. @barr
    “I hope none of the millions of Indians who assembled to see Trump’s motorcade has coronavirus.”

    Steve Sailer.

    He can secure some deal about his housing and other projects despite the brand getting radioactive even in India.




    "After a “furious” call from Trump, which ended abruptly when the U.S. president “slammed down the phone,” Johnson has since postponed his planned visit next month to Washington.
    Therefore, Trump’s frank remarks about his forthcoming India visit on February 24-25 to Ahmedabad, Gujarat, should not come as a surprise. In response to a query from the media, he said on February 18:
    “Well, we can have a trade deal with India, but I’m really saving the big deal for later on. We’re doing a very big trade deal with India. We’ll have it. I don’t know if it’ll be done before the election, but we’ll have a very big trade deal with India.
    “We’re not treated very well by India, but I happen to like Prime Minister Modi a lot. And he told me we’ll have 7 million people between the airport and the event. And the stadium, I understand, is sort of semi under construction, but it’s going to be the largest stadium in the world. So it’s going to be very exciting. But he says between the stadium and the airport, we’ll have about 7 million people. So it’s going to be very exciting. I hope you all enjoy it.”-

    Suffice it to say, this visit needs to be seen as a favor he’s doing for Modi, whose invitation once as chief guest on Republic Day he’d turned down.
    Trump sounded like the badshah (king) out to enjoy himself on an exciting hunting trip and is looking forward to much self-gratification, all arranged at no personal cost to himself.


    -- M. K. Bhadrakumar. https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/02/24/how-indias-modi-is-playing-on-trumps-ego-to-his-advantage/

    Wow, quoting extensively from propaganda rag Counter Punch. Very convincing.

    • Replies: @barr
    No,no its not badmouthing from Counter punch

    That man is a moron

    "Trump is reportedly furious that the stock market is plunging on coronavirus fears


    President Donald Trump is reportedly furious that stocks are plunging, believing that health officials’ warnings have spooked investors, The Washington Post reported Tuesday night, citing two people familiar with the president’s thinking.
    The president has reportedly cautioned aides against forecasting the impact of the virus over fears that stocks could fall further, The Washington Post said.
    Stocks plunged on Tuesday, with losses accelerating after health officials warned that the coronavirus is “likely” to continue to spread throughout the United States, warning that the American public should “prepare for the expectation that this is going to be bad.”-- https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/25/trump-is-reportedly-furious-with-the-plunging-stock-market-due-to-coronavirus-fears.html

    Hope this moron doesn't get excited about bringing the interest rate to negative . God Save the Moron !

  293. @Just Passing Through
    Lower IQ people seem to be more in touch with reality that high IQ people, who tend to get caught up with abstract theories and ideas.

    Loutish is right but I will try to be more precise: it’s effectively not possible for low-IQ people to be firmly and constantly in touch with reality.
    The issue isn’t really IQ here. The proper word for “in touch with reality,” or street smarts, or learning physically and empirically, is phronesis. People at all IQs can learn from phronesis (higher IQs can learn faster and hopefully permanently). Our society suffers because of midwits and high-IQ credentialists hermetically sealed off from phronesis.

  294. @Lot
    “ Sounds pretty much like what Jews have done whenever they got a foothold in a particular industry. ”

    Turned NY’s finance, LA’s media, and the Bay Area’s software into world-dominating industries and created trillions in wealth for their countrymen?

    How awful!

    Jewish success in an industry new to them is normally the relatively explosive benefit of eliminating taboos, which usually means they will not be able to maintain the apparent relative improvement, or — we all get to discover as harshly as possible why those taboos had been in place.

  295. @UK
    The only major thing people like about Muslim countries is how emotionally intense they are. I find it creepy and infantile, but some love all of the alternately pompous grandiose aggressive alternately wailing and gnashing of teeth victimey psycho-drama. They think it is authentic.

    Other than that, there is some credibility that comes from swanning around with oil money, I suppose.

    Neither are going to work out well for those countries. Shouting nonsense while jabbing your finger in the air is not a great substitute for competence.

    The only major thing people like about Muslim countries is how emotionally intense they are……They think it is authentic.

    You forgot the completely overrated cuisine.

  296. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    It depends. I think there are different ranges.

    The lowest IQ whites are wiggers/drug addicts. No different than the average black.

    Then there is the sweet spot, maybe 90-105 IQ - basically, the average MAGA voter. Alot are brainwashed but they do have an instinctive grip on reality.

    The problem whites are 105-120 IQ. They think they are intellectually superior, and make up the vast majority of the leftist managerial class, self hating whites, and anti white soccer moms.

    Once you get up over 120 IQ it really is a mixed bag. But there is a larger number than you think, who are quite aware, albeit very quietly, of what's going on. Pattern recognition is, after all, the basis of IQ.

    So no, I don't blame high IQ white people, I blame the 105-120 IQ whites who think they are smart.

    The problem whites are 105-120 IQ. They think they are intellectually superior, and make up the vast majority of the leftist managerial class, self hating whites, and anti white soccer moms.

    I believe you are referring to what has been described as the IYI class, IYI standing for, “Intelligent, Yet Idiots.”

  297. @Jack D
    So, basically there are two kinds of immigrants and they are both bad. The first kind of immigrant is bad because they are dumber than us and so must steal and go on welfare to survive. The other kind of immigrant is bad because they are smarter than us and lord it over us. Since all immigrants are either smarter or dumber than average Americans, we shouldn't take any of them. USCIS should have two rubber stamps with which to stamp all immigration applications - one would read REJECTED - TOO DUMB and the other would read REJECTED - TOO SMART.

    Jack, are you just now catching on that a lot of people here want no immigrants of any sort for any reason?

    People are so interconnected now, and there are so many social programs, including public education, that the too dumb immigrants are so clearly a net negative that it astounds me that there is much disagreement, outside of politicians who need oligarch money. The too smart immigrants are a bit more complicated. They tend to come from the exploitive elites of low trust societies into a country where elite ethics, are, well, not what they could be. They are eligible for preferences from college admissions, to grad and professional schools, in employment, and government programs like small business financing, and contracting. Even the ones like Indians who do not receive AA in med school, their race and ethnicity doesn’t count against them, like it does for cishet white guys. Indians seem to hit the ground running for race hustling, and corporate exploitation.

    I think that, on the whole, even immigrants who are well above the white mean IQ are a net negative for Americans in the numbers they come in and the culture they join.

    I’m not a closed borders guy, though. I would happily let every Senator sponsor, say, ten immigrants a year who would only be allowed to reside in his state, and could even bring a spouse and even several minor children of the two parents. At those numbers, we would probably get more brilliant chemists than Guatemalan women and their bastards. But even if some Senators wanted to virtue signal and chose the Guatemalans, at only ten a year they wouldn’t be much of a burden.

    • Replies: @Buck Turgidson
    Suggest that the 10 immigrants/yr reside on the Senators property and that the Senator is financially responsible for any and all unpaid bills from the immigrants. Time for someone other than taxpayers to eat these expenses.
  298. @Jack D
    So, basically there are two kinds of immigrants and they are both bad. The first kind of immigrant is bad because they are dumber than us and so must steal and go on welfare to survive. The other kind of immigrant is bad because they are smarter than us and lord it over us. Since all immigrants are either smarter or dumber than average Americans, we shouldn't take any of them. USCIS should have two rubber stamps with which to stamp all immigration applications - one would read REJECTED - TOO DUMB and the other would read REJECTED - TOO SMART.

    Since all immigrants are either smarter or dumber than average Americans, we shouldn’t take any of them. USCIS should have two rubber stamps with which to stamp all immigration applications – one would read REJECTED – TOO DUMB and the other would read REJECTED – TOO SMART.

    I read an anecdote about J Edgar Hoover, that when he suspected someone of being a “subversive” and had a wiretap authorized, he prepared two files. If the wiretap revealed subversion it was filed under subversive. If it didn’t reveal subversion it was filed under cunning subversive.

  299. @Jack D
    So, basically there are two kinds of immigrants and they are both bad. The first kind of immigrant is bad because they are dumber than us and so must steal and go on welfare to survive. The other kind of immigrant is bad because they are smarter than us and lord it over us. Since all immigrants are either smarter or dumber than average Americans, we shouldn't take any of them. USCIS should have two rubber stamps with which to stamp all immigration applications - one would read REJECTED - TOO DUMB and the other would read REJECTED - TOO SMART.

    It doesn’t matter. The important part is that they are not us. Why should we be inviting to foreign, alien groups?

    They are all a threat to my tribe. Why should I give them a leg up? How about your tribe? Is Israel opening its borders soon?

    Given that you are a member of one of these groups, your motivations seem pretty clear.

  300. @MG
    I worked in Silicon Valley for 25 years. 98% of H-1B Indians wouldn’t have gotten into this country in the pre-1990 regime when there were quality filters in place. In those days to come to America you had to be academically among the toppers to get an assistantship or a fellowship. Indian parents didn’t have money to pay for their offspring’s education abroad. In the 1990s the USA tossed out its standards and opened the floodgates. Every Sharma and Rao can now take the next Air India flight out.

    One other thing: the state of restrooms at Indian-heavy companies in the Valley - o brother.

    The quality filters were dismantled sometime around 1998-2000, with the expansion of the H-1b visa cap under Bill Clinton. That’s when you began to see lots of mediocre programmers come in from overseas.

    As recently as the mid 90s, you still had to be reasonably qualified to get an H-1b visa. The quality wasn’t as superb as the 60s-80s, but it was still decent. By 1999 or 2000, that had changed.

    Especially from around 2013/14 onward, there’s been further dismantling of quality filters. A lot of these new IT workers would struggle to even be considered mediocre.

    Up through the 80s, the H-1bs were indeed the “best and brightest” of the world.
    During the 90s, you were getting people who were pretty competent, but not elite.
    By the early 2000s, you were getting people who could’ve easily been replaced by State U BAs.
    Within the last 5-7 years, the entire system has become a joke.

    I’d say the H-1b went from a net positive to a net negative around 2000.

  301. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    That’s what the WASPs said about Eastern and Southern Europeans. Italians, Poles, and Slavs were not part of this American interest. And we’ve been paying the price ever since, according to nativists’ calculus.
     
    Yes, of course. European immigrants who came during the era of rapid Industrialization and Urbanization are exactly the same phenomenon as immigrants today.

    And as we all know, the children of Poles, Italians and Slavs immediately became Doctors, Lawyers and Indian Chiefs and lorded their social position over their native neighbors.

    “Yes, of course. European immigrants who came during the era of rapid Industrialization and Urbanization are exactly the same phenomenon as immigrants today.”

    Amazing how the ancestors of undesirables became Americanized (magic dirt?) despite nativist sentiments, and how their offspring in some cases harbor similar resentment and hostility toward newcomers.

    “And as we all know, the children of Poles, Italians and Slavs immediately became Doctors, Lawyers and Indian Chiefs and lorded their social position over their native neighbors.”

    Not immediately. It took time. And according to “Heritage Americans”, those positions were to be exclusively for their offspring, not interlopers.

  302. @MG
    I worked in Silicon Valley for 25 years. 98% of H-1B Indians wouldn’t have gotten into this country in the pre-1990 regime when there were quality filters in place. In those days to come to America you had to be academically among the toppers to get an assistantship or a fellowship. Indian parents didn’t have money to pay for their offspring’s education abroad. In the 1990s the USA tossed out its standards and opened the floodgates. Every Sharma and Rao can now take the next Air India flight out.

    One other thing: the state of restrooms at Indian-heavy companies in the Valley - o brother.

    There are called Indiots for a reason.

    http://www.indiots2.com/

    • Replies: @Just Passing Through
    That webpage seems to be more of a testament to their ingenuity to be honest.

    The truth of the matter is that Chinese like you have contributed more to the decline of America than Indians. At worst Indians send money back to India, Chinese meanwhile send back secrets and tech. China would be like I did if it weren't for Americans allowing you sinoids to infiltrate the countries intellectual industries.

    Australia currently is inundated with Chinese spies, in the UK, Chinese academics where I work regularly 'work hard at night' in the server rooms when no non-Chinese is around. I have complained about this but was turned away for being 'racist'.

    The amount of shilling yoh do is a testament to the fact that you Chinese are up to no good, the Indians shilling on this blog are just insecure types, you meanwhile have a pre-prepared scripts and links.

    'Look laowai, those Indians are the real threat, us Chinese are model minorities who work hard in the White Man's research labs when nobody is around, please don't notice how similar our tech looks to yours, we came up with it due to our 105 IQ, China also has the 4 Great New Chinese inventions laowai, we invented the high-speed rail, e-commerce, electronic payment and bike sharing, if you notice that none of these are actually Chinese but Western or Japanese, you are a racist and we will throw a hissy fit"

    I have to give it to you sinoids, you do like to play innocent and feminine, but unfortunately, our elites havnt woken up to the threat our countries face from you co-ethnics.

    What has China really invented over the past few hundred years? Charles Murray says 97% of the major innovations were done by Northern Europeans, the rest was Arab, Indian and Chinese.

    Why are so many of your co-ethnics still flooding into Western universities when Whites only have an IQ of 100 and superior Chinese have an IQ of 105?

    Where are all the brilliant Chinese mathematicians? They seem to be pretty into international maths Olympiads yet most people cannot name a single Chinese mathematicians. What is the Chinese equivalent of Euler, Newton, Leibniz, Descartes, Pascal, Germany etc etc?

    You Chinese have really pulled the wool over the eyes of Westerners, it is shameful that Whites actually think you sinoids are intelligent just because you get A grades in Western universities.

    Sadly, none of our treacherous global elite have the cojones to take you on, I guarantee we could destroy your entire country within a few months, sadly America don't drop the Big One on you when they had the chance.
  303. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    That’s what the WASPs said about Eastern and Southern Europeans. Italians, Poles, and Slavs were not part of this American interest. And we’ve been paying the price ever since, according to nativists’ calculus.
     
    Yes, of course. European immigrants who came during the era of rapid Industrialization and Urbanization are exactly the same phenomenon as immigrants today.

    And as we all know, the children of Poles, Italians and Slavs immediately became Doctors, Lawyers and Indian Chiefs and lorded their social position over their native neighbors.

    And as we all know, the children of Poles, Italians and Slavs immediately became Doctors, Lawyers and Indian Chiefs and lorded their social position over their native neighbors.

    A lot of their kids became mafioso, radical subversives, or ethno-political hustlers. In some ways, even worse than our current waves of Hispanics, Asians, and Subcons. They were not perceived positively by the Anglo-Germanic masses.

    However, back then, there was less PC in this country. Also, labor unions were stronger and more responsive to their grassroots. So immigration was strongly curtailed by the 1924 immigration act.

    WWII created an atmosphere of national solidarity, so the rest of the country became more willing to offer PC platitudes to the Ellis Island wave. That’s when you began to see all these WWII movies with various ethnic characters (tough Irishman, ebullient Italian, folksy Southerner) who initially are skeptical of each other, but learn to work together and become friends at the end.

    There was more pressure to assimilate back then too. Up through the 60s (and to some extent the 70s and 80s), it was considered unseemly for Ellis Islanders to be assertive of their ethnic identity. There was an expectation that you should make a good faith effort to be an American. You could take pride in being from NYC or Boston or wherever, but tribalism was seen in a negative light.

    Back then, it was the Anglos who took a lot of pride in their ethnic identity. So even a symbol like the Confederate Flag was considered okay.

    During the 90s and 2000s, everything changed. If someone from 1990 took a time machine to 2020, he wouldn’t believe what he was seeing.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "A lot of their kids became mafioso, radical subversives, or ethno-political hustlers."

    How are you so certain?

    "In some ways, even worse than our current waves of Hispanics, Asians, and Subcons."

    Whoa, take a step back from the ledge.

    "WWII created an atmosphere of national solidarity, so the rest of the country became more willing to offer PC platitudes to the Ellis Island wave."

    It actually began in World War I. Foreign-born soldiers, many of whom who volunteered, composed nearly 20% of the American military. Their service not only helped the U.S. defeat Germany, but accelerated the assimilation of an entire generation of new Americans. Of course, there was backlash against the "undesirable" Italians, Poles, and Slavs by the early 1920's as a result of labor unrest and perceived political threats, which led one group of whites to design measure to stop the "invasion" of another group of whites.

    Magic dirt?

    "Up through the 60s (and to some extent the 70s and 80s), it was considered unseemly for Ellis Islanders to be assertive of their ethnic identity."

    Not what I remember growing up at that time. Perhaps you experienced it differently.

  304. @peterike

    Turned NY’s finance, LA’s media, and the Bay Area’s software into world-dominating industries and created trillions in wealth for their countrymen?
     
    Turned NY’s finance
    >>> Deliberately outsourced American manufacturing and devastated millions of working class lives. Many American towns have never recovered. Unleashed countless predatory lending instruments. Take 20% interest from your credit card give you 0.5% on your savings account. Beggared millions of retirees.

    LA’s media,
    >>> Waged a relentless war on heritage white America. Promoted homosexuality, race mixing and every other perversion under the sun. Spread a continuous, toxic stew of anti-White, anti-male, anti-American propaganda all over the world.

    Bay Area’s software
    >>>> Outsourced and in-sourced millions of jobs to Indians, Chinese and others, taking good paying jobs from Americans and flooding the nation with troublesome Asians. Complacently allowed massive industrial espionage by Chinese and Israelis. Financially vigorous supporters of anti-white, GloboHomo, open borders. Ruthlessly censor pro-white and conservative points of view.

    But oh yay, trillions of dollars for their "countrymen"!

    >>> Deliberately outsourced American manufacturing and devastated millions of working class lives. Many American towns have never recovered. Unleashed countless predatory lending instruments. Take 20% interest from your credit card give you 0.5% on your savings account. Beggared millions of retirees.

    To be fair, it wasn’t all Jews.

    Lots of White Gentiles went along to line their pockets.

  305. @nebulafox
    I love when liberals trot out the "your ancestor was an immigrant too" argument. When that immigration wave came from Europe, the US did not have a welfare state, nor did it have a truly globalized economy, nor did automation and technology come close to resembling anything that exists today. That's not nothing, you know?

    Whatever your own personal beliefs about assimilation and social coherence, if you seriously believe that immigration policy logic from 120 years ago is still applicable today, you are too dumb to be bothered with.

    “I love when liberals trot out the “your ancestor was an immigrant too” argument.”

    Except I’m not a liberal.

    “When that immigration wave came from Europe, the US did not have a welfare state…”

    No, but it did have political bosses doling out favors and jobs in the late 1800’s. And please note that relief for the poor, needy, and immigrants was primarily a function of local and state governments at this time.

    You may be surprised that our federal government was involved in several programs designed to help certain groups which laid the ground work for this “welfare state”.

    https://scholarworks.wmich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=2035&context=jssw

    “nor did it have a truly globalized economy”

    So what in your view constitutes a “truly globalized economy”?

    “nor did automation and technology come close to resembling anything that exists today. That’s not nothing, you know?”

    Indeed.

    “Whatever your own personal beliefs about assimilation and social coherence, if you seriously believe that immigration policy logic from 120 years ago is still applicable today, you are too dumb to be bothered with.”

    Except that is not the entire argument I am making. What I find deliciously hypocritical is the progeny of immigrants today make the claim how the dark Kenyans and squatty Guatemalans are incapable of assimilating…when their ancestors had been on the receiving end of such charges compliments of nativists.

    Magic dirt anyone?

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    >Except I’m not a liberal.

    You are a "modern" Christian who just happens to rattle off NPR talking points when you aren't busy concern trolling...

    >You may be surprised that our federal government was involved in several programs designed to help certain groups which laid the ground work for this “welfare state”.

    Which bears no resemblance whatsoever to the New Deal, let alone the Great Society programs of the 1960s, in terms of scope and cost alike. America's gotten away with the levels of immigration it has had because of the US dollar's position as the world's reserve currency. That's a game with a finite limit.

    >So what in your view constitutes a “truly globalized economy”?

    A world where you can travel from China to the US in less than 24 hours, transmit currency and communicate instantaneously across borders, where the US economy can be pot, where the overwhelming majority of countries ascribe to the same basic economic formula (albeit with massive variants in the degree of regulation, etc), where shipping and plane costs are cheap, where you can hire someone halfway around the world because they are cheaper, etc, etc... kind of makes mass immigration a different game, right, particularly the low-skilled variant?

    Didn't you once say you were a teacher? If so, shouldn't you know that the world today is vastly different than it was in 1910? I feel bad for your students. It should also be mentioned that even with a far stronger, uncompromising emphasis on assimilation, it took the USA a lot of time and effort to absorb all the new arrivals from Europe, and it wasn't an entirely smooth process, as seen by the social unrest of the immediate post-WWI period. It is not an accident that US Catholicism heavily resembles Protestantism! And of course, the big elephant in the room: the immigration restrictionist laws of 1924 gave the US a much needed breather. Today, we aren't even trying.

    >Except that is not the entire argument I am making.

    Not the *entire* argument, eh? So, on some level, you do think it is applicable. That makes you a certified moron! But don't worry, you are in good company: most of our talking heads and political elites are in the same camp.

    >What I find deliciously hypocritical is the progeny of immigrants today make the claim how the dark Kenyans and squatty Guatemalans are incapable of assimilating…when their ancestors had been on the receiving end of such charges compliments of nativists.

    Well, it doesn't really matter: as I've stated, the economic realities of the 21st Century make mass immigration a far more risky long-term proposition from a century ago, regardless of the origin of the immigrants. I'm sure a lot of the people here would be far more enthusiastic about immigration if it came from Europe (and you'd probably find that all of a sudden, many left-wingers would be far less enthusiastic about mass immigration), but assuming similar numerical quantities and quality levels, that wouldn't change the socioeconomic problems it poses.

    With that said, we should note that immigrants prior to 1990 basically had to assimilate to survive long-term in the United States. We no longer insist on that, as a society, nor do we have the same relatively stringent filters: just talk to anybody who has worked as a programmer and deals with the H1-B visa system, with all the negative effects that had on tech workplaces in the United States. Quite a different group of people from the scientists that typically characterized subcontinental immigration in the 1970s and 1980s.

    Many of the immigrants, particularly the children of the educated, assimilate anyway. This is a testament to America's residual pull, which so many Democrats seem to think is deeply immoral and wish to destroy. But many don't, not helped by the fact that many come from cultures more difficult to reconcile to living in a 21st Century Western society. As usual, this is a problem more deeply felt the lower you go on the socioeconomic scale, particularly when chain migration is brought into the picture. But even on higher rungs, there are negative societal consequences to people viewing the US as a marketplace with a nation rather than the other way around. We don't need more social atomization, given everything else going on, and the goal should be given the last couple of decades of mass immigration to defuse racial tensions rather than further exacerbating them. It fits in well with short-term elite interests, whether in the business community or in politics, but isn't a winning formula, long-term.

    (It's also worth stating that many, though not all, immigrants tend to have far more sane view on immigration than SWPL types do. They can see the political benefits of bringing their co-ethnics over, but many left for the US because many of their home nations were crapholes, and they understand that too many means the US becomes more like the places they tried to leave! And economics plays a role, too. Since I work in software, I'll talk about an example I'm intimately familiar with: immigrant programmers from countries other than India are not fans of HR 1044 once they learn about it, because if the limits on India were removed, they'd all be swamped as much as the natives. There's a reason there's a near media-blackout on that bill. The donors from the tech world know how unpopular it'd be. Luckily, Trump is enough of a shallow putz-and a plutocrat himself-so if they can get it to him without issues and keep it out of the spotlight during election year, they'll get what they want.)

    >Magic dirt anyone?

    Careful, Corvy. Using terms like this may lead one to believe that your relationship with Vox Day and the alt-right is suspiciously CAGEY... don't want to blow your cover, right?

  306. @JohnnyWalker123

    And as we all know, the children of Poles, Italians and Slavs immediately became Doctors, Lawyers and Indian Chiefs and lorded their social position over their native neighbors.

     

    A lot of their kids became mafioso, radical subversives, or ethno-political hustlers. In some ways, even worse than our current waves of Hispanics, Asians, and Subcons. They were not perceived positively by the Anglo-Germanic masses.

    However, back then, there was less PC in this country. Also, labor unions were stronger and more responsive to their grassroots. So immigration was strongly curtailed by the 1924 immigration act.

    WWII created an atmosphere of national solidarity, so the rest of the country became more willing to offer PC platitudes to the Ellis Island wave. That's when you began to see all these WWII movies with various ethnic characters (tough Irishman, ebullient Italian, folksy Southerner) who initially are skeptical of each other, but learn to work together and become friends at the end.

    There was more pressure to assimilate back then too. Up through the 60s (and to some extent the 70s and 80s), it was considered unseemly for Ellis Islanders to be assertive of their ethnic identity. There was an expectation that you should make a good faith effort to be an American. You could take pride in being from NYC or Boston or wherever, but tribalism was seen in a negative light.

    Back then, it was the Anglos who took a lot of pride in their ethnic identity. So even a symbol like the Confederate Flag was considered okay.

    During the 90s and 2000s, everything changed. If someone from 1990 took a time machine to 2020, he wouldn't believe what he was seeing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl-QQQlG60o

    “A lot of their kids became mafioso, radical subversives, or ethno-political hustlers.”

    How are you so certain?

    “In some ways, even worse than our current waves of Hispanics, Asians, and Subcons.”

    Whoa, take a step back from the ledge.

    “WWII created an atmosphere of national solidarity, so the rest of the country became more willing to offer PC platitudes to the Ellis Island wave.”

    It actually began in World War I. Foreign-born soldiers, many of whom who volunteered, composed nearly 20% of the American military. Their service not only helped the U.S. defeat Germany, but accelerated the assimilation of an entire generation of new Americans. Of course, there was backlash against the “undesirable” Italians, Poles, and Slavs by the early 1920’s as a result of labor unrest and perceived political threats, which led one group of whites to design measure to stop the “invasion” of another group of whites.

    Magic dirt?

    “Up through the 60s (and to some extent the 70s and 80s), it was considered unseemly for Ellis Islanders to be assertive of their ethnic identity.”

    Not what I remember growing up at that time. Perhaps you experienced it differently.

  307. @XYZ (no Mr.)
    Silicon Valley is a Jewish creation? Really? All those computer scientists and electrical engineers were Jewish in your alternative history? Or perhaps, are Jewish managers to blame for all the H-1B abuse and overcrowding? Honestly, I thought it was general American corporate greed, but thank you for volunteering the exact specific ethnic group responsible.

    Your honesty is refreshing.

    There are some Jews in Silicon Valley, but the tech industry is not that Jewish, unlike the entertainment industry or Wall Street or the legal profession. My impression is that the new generations of American Jews are slacking off compared with their ancestors and they are not that interested in the hard work involved in the tech industry. Israel does have an important tech industry, but the attitude of the average Israeli is quite different from that of the average Jewish American.

  308. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    I love you Donald Trump!!! Now give me visa please I leave this sh!thole come America at once, I program many computer for you get scholarship big American university marry many white girls I love you Donald Trump! please give me visa get me out of sh!thole NOW!!

    True story: in summer 2017 i went to see friends in Dallas/FW. I spent about 5 days by myself exploring the city….Deep Ellum, Mockingbird Station, downtown Dallas etc

    Anyway, i was taking the light rail around….often i found out later without a pass…..lol

    1 day i was screwing around downtown in early June near the Sheraton downtown. Long story short while sitting on the bench waiting for the train this Hispanic looking dude walks up to me. He looks homeless so i prepare to say “sorry man no dollar”….

    To my shock after the BO stench hit my nose he spoke in a thick Hindu accent rather than a Latin accent

    “Excuse me, where can i get job making cars? I do in my head.”

    I look at him like hes a wacko and reply “think you gotta go to college for thatbuddy….”

    He has a blank look on his face & repeats the same thing. “I need job designing cars.”

    I repeat the same thing and tokd him to apply at Texas A&M or UT Austin….

    Blank look. Repeats same line.

    I give him a thumbs up and motion my train is here and get on. He stares at me w a blank look and moves on to somebody else….

    Yeah…

  309. @Malla

    White people don’t drive taxis
     
    Say What?

    https://www.phtm.co.uk/file/news-images/A-MILLION-MILES-AND-STILL-GOING-FOR-GLASGOW%E2%80%99S-OLDEST-CABBIE.jpg

    He’s Glasgow’s oldest cabbie. Most young and middle aged cabbies in Anglo countries are Indian, Arab, or East African.

    Whites rarely take the job.

    Too dirty, unclean, and difficult.

    • Replies: @Malla

    Most young and middle aged cabbies in Anglo countries are Indian, Arab, or East African.
    Whites rarely take the job.
     
    Actually there are many Anglo countries or Western countries where White people drive cabs, I myself have been driven by White taxi drivers in small towns in the west. it is just that when foreigners appear, the proportion of White taxi drivers reduce for some reason.

    Too dirty, unclean, and difficult.
     
    Oh Please, Taxi driving is not as dirty or unclean as compared to say mining.

    https://www.australianmining.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/anglo_1-604x270.jpg

    https://steelguru.com/uploads/news/queensland-s_demand_for_skilled_bowen_basin_coal_workers_report_83068.jpg

    https://www.australianmining.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Mount-Isa-Mines_6.jpg

    Unless you as a cab driver are driving someone to the ghetto.

  310. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    I've also met alot of 2nd generation Indian americans who are very woke - especially the girls.

    Whites would have laughed the multicultural pusher off the street 100 years ago too.

    Whites would have laughed the multicultural pusher off the street 100 years ago too.

    And then came television (programming) and Cultural Marxism in Universities and people lost their common sense.

  311. @Jack D

    many WW2 British vets who regret fighting in the war
     
    Who are these vets who regretted saving their country from eternal Nazi rule? I've never met one.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1229643/This-isnt-Britain-fought-say-unknown-warriors-WWII.html

    ‘This isn’t the Britain we fought for,’ say the ‘unknown warriors’ of WWII

    Nearly 400,000 Britons died. Millions more were scarred by the experience, physically and mentally.

    But was it worth it? Her answer – and the answer of many of her contemporaries, now in their 80s and 90s – is a resounding No.

    They despise what has become of the Britain they once fought to save. It’s not our country any more, they say, in sorrow and anger.

    Sarah harks back to the days when ‘people kept the laws and were polite and courteous. We didn’t have much money, but we were contented and happy.

    ‘People whistled and sang. There was still the United Kingdom, our country, which we had fought for, our freedom, democracy. But where is it now?!’

    …snip…

    What is extraordinary about the 150 replies he received, which he has now published as a book, is their vehement insistence that those who made the ultimate sacrifice in the war would now be turning in their graves.

    There is the occasional bright spot – one veteran describes Britain as ‘still the best country in the world’ – but the overall tone is one of profound disillusionment.

    ‘I sing no song for the once-proud country that spawned me,’ wrote a sailor who fought the Japanese in the Far East, ‘and I wonder why I ever tried.’

    ‘My patriotism has gone out of the window,’ said another ex-serviceman.

    …snip….

    Her husband, a veteran of Dunkirk and Burma, died a disappointed man, believing that his seven years in the Army were wasted.

    ‘It is 18 years since I lost him and as I look around parts of Birmingham today you would never know you were in England,’ she wrote.

    ‘He would have hated it. He also disliked the immoral way things are going. I don’t think people are really happy now, for all the modern, easy-living conveniences.

    ‘I disagree with same-sex marriages, schoolgirl mothers, rubbish TV programmes, so-called celebrities and, most of all, unlimited immigration.

    • Replies: @Malla
    And the most important thing, had Operation Sea Lion had been a success and the Third Reich would have won the war and survived, would there have been same-sex marriages, schoolgirl mothers, rubbish TV programmes, so-called celebrities and, most of all, unlimited immigration, in a Nationalist Socialist Great Britain today. Nope, no chance at all.
    But would people have kept the laws and would have been polite and courteous. You bet.
    Brits as well as Germans as well as others would have money money AND YET been contented and happy.
    , @anon
    Sorry to hear the sound of the lament . Why did he join the F*ing army for? Why didn't he rebel before? Why didn't he question his grandparents why they didn't rebel against the British policy of squeezing the last drop of blood of the live inhabitants of the far flung British empire?

    He couldn't stand the immigration .All those years ,how did he support the illegal immigrants from UK entering those countries and looting?
  312. @peterike
    Wow, quoting extensively from propaganda rag Counter Punch. Very convincing.

    No,no its not badmouthing from Counter punch

    That man is a moron

    “Trump is reportedly furious that the stock market is plunging on coronavirus fears

    President Donald Trump is reportedly furious that stocks are plunging, believing that health officials’ warnings have spooked investors, The Washington Post reported Tuesday night, citing two people familiar with the president’s thinking.
    The president has reportedly cautioned aides against forecasting the impact of the virus over fears that stocks could fall further, The Washington Post said.
    Stocks plunged on Tuesday, with losses accelerating after health officials warned that the coronavirus is “likely” to continue to spread throughout the United States, warning that the American public should “prepare for the expectation that this is going to be bad.”– https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/25/trump-is-reportedly-furious-with-the-plunging-stock-market-due-to-coronavirus-fears.html

    Hope this moron doesn’t get excited about bringing the interest rate to negative . God Save the Moron !

  313. @Corvinus
    "I love when liberals trot out the “your ancestor was an immigrant too” argument."

    Except I'm not a liberal.

    "When that immigration wave came from Europe, the US did not have a welfare state..."

    No, but it did have political bosses doling out favors and jobs in the late 1800's. And please note that relief for the poor, needy, and immigrants was primarily a function of local and state governments at this time.

    You may be surprised that our federal government was involved in several programs designed to help certain groups which laid the ground work for this "welfare state".

    https://scholarworks.wmich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=2035&context=jssw

    "nor did it have a truly globalized economy"

    So what in your view constitutes a "truly globalized economy"?

    "nor did automation and technology come close to resembling anything that exists today. That’s not nothing, you know?"

    Indeed.

    "Whatever your own personal beliefs about assimilation and social coherence, if you seriously believe that immigration policy logic from 120 years ago is still applicable today, you are too dumb to be bothered with."

    Except that is not the entire argument I am making. What I find deliciously hypocritical is the progeny of immigrants today make the claim how the dark Kenyans and squatty Guatemalans are incapable of assimilating...when their ancestors had been on the receiving end of such charges compliments of nativists.

    Magic dirt anyone?

    >Except I’m not a liberal.

    You are a “modern” Christian who just happens to rattle off NPR talking points when you aren’t busy concern trolling…

    >You may be surprised that our federal government was involved in several programs designed to help certain groups which laid the ground work for this “welfare state”.

    Which bears no resemblance whatsoever to the New Deal, let alone the Great Society programs of the 1960s, in terms of scope and cost alike. America’s gotten away with the levels of immigration it has had because of the US dollar’s position as the world’s reserve currency. That’s a game with a finite limit.

    >So what in your view constitutes a “truly globalized economy”?

    A world where you can travel from China to the US in less than 24 hours, transmit currency and communicate instantaneously across borders, where the US economy can be pot, where the overwhelming majority of countries ascribe to the same basic economic formula (albeit with massive variants in the degree of regulation, etc), where shipping and plane costs are cheap, where you can hire someone halfway around the world because they are cheaper, etc, etc… kind of makes mass immigration a different game, right, particularly the low-skilled variant?

    Didn’t you once say you were a teacher? If so, shouldn’t you know that the world today is vastly different than it was in 1910? I feel bad for your students. It should also be mentioned that even with a far stronger, uncompromising emphasis on assimilation, it took the USA a lot of time and effort to absorb all the new arrivals from Europe, and it wasn’t an entirely smooth process, as seen by the social unrest of the immediate post-WWI period. It is not an accident that US Catholicism heavily resembles Protestantism! And of course, the big elephant in the room: the immigration restrictionist laws of 1924 gave the US a much needed breather. Today, we aren’t even trying.

    >Except that is not the entire argument I am making.

    Not the *entire* argument, eh? So, on some level, you do think it is applicable. That makes you a certified moron! But don’t worry, you are in good company: most of our talking heads and political elites are in the same camp.

    >What I find deliciously hypocritical is the progeny of immigrants today make the claim how the dark Kenyans and squatty Guatemalans are incapable of assimilating…when their ancestors had been on the receiving end of such charges compliments of nativists.

    Well, it doesn’t really matter: as I’ve stated, the economic realities of the 21st Century make mass immigration a far more risky long-term proposition from a century ago, regardless of the origin of the immigrants. I’m sure a lot of the people here would be far more enthusiastic about immigration if it came from Europe (and you’d probably find that all of a sudden, many left-wingers would be far less enthusiastic about mass immigration), but assuming similar numerical quantities and quality levels, that wouldn’t change the socioeconomic problems it poses.

    With that said, we should note that immigrants prior to 1990 basically had to assimilate to survive long-term in the United States. We no longer insist on that, as a society, nor do we have the same relatively stringent filters: just talk to anybody who has worked as a programmer and deals with the H1-B visa system, with all the negative effects that had on tech workplaces in the United States. Quite a different group of people from the scientists that typically characterized subcontinental immigration in the 1970s and 1980s.

    Many of the immigrants, particularly the children of the educated, assimilate anyway. This is a testament to America’s residual pull, which so many Democrats seem to think is deeply immoral and wish to destroy. But many don’t, not helped by the fact that many come from cultures more difficult to reconcile to living in a 21st Century Western society. As usual, this is a problem more deeply felt the lower you go on the socioeconomic scale, particularly when chain migration is brought into the picture. But even on higher rungs, there are negative societal consequences to people viewing the US as a marketplace with a nation rather than the other way around. We don’t need more social atomization, given everything else going on, and the goal should be given the last couple of decades of mass immigration to defuse racial tensions rather than further exacerbating them. It fits in well with short-term elite interests, whether in the business community or in politics, but isn’t a winning formula, long-term.

    (It’s also worth stating that many, though not all, immigrants tend to have far more sane view on immigration than SWPL types do. They can see the political benefits of bringing their co-ethnics over, but many left for the US because many of their home nations were crapholes, and they understand that too many means the US becomes more like the places they tried to leave! And economics plays a role, too. Since I work in software, I’ll talk about an example I’m intimately familiar with: immigrant programmers from countries other than India are not fans of HR 1044 once they learn about it, because if the limits on India were removed, they’d all be swamped as much as the natives. There’s a reason there’s a near media-blackout on that bill. The donors from the tech world know how unpopular it’d be. Luckily, Trump is enough of a shallow putz-and a plutocrat himself-so if they can get it to him without issues and keep it out of the spotlight during election year, they’ll get what they want.)

    >Magic dirt anyone?

    Careful, Corvy. Using terms like this may lead one to believe that your relationship with Vox Day and the alt-right is suspiciously CAGEY… don’t want to blow your cover, right?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    It is not an accident that US Catholicism heavily resembles Protestantism!
     
    In that "cultural Catholics" shack up, swing, divorce, and take communion without confession. But the Protestants have regained their lead with rainbow flags, witch bishops, and ceremonies to match.
    , @Corvinus
    "You are a “modern” Christian who just happens to rattle off NPR talking points when you aren’t busy concern trolling…"

    Actually, I am an educated married white man with children who makes his own decisions about race, religion, and culture. So you are completely off the mark.

    "Which bears no resemblance whatsoever to the New Deal, let alone the Great Society programs of the 1960s, in terms of scope and cost alike."

    But the fact remains the federal government in the 1800's was involved in some aspect of providing relief to specific groups of people. And the problems that faced people in 1900 demanded increased government oversight and direct efforts to assist them economically and socially. It was in large part the result of citizen demand.

    "A world where you can travel from China to the US in less than 24 hours, transmit currency and communicate instantaneously across borders, where the US economy can be pot, where the overwhelming majority of countries ascribe to the same basic economic formula..."

    What you are describing is an expanding globalized economy. Some would argue that a "truly globalized economy" began in earnest in the 1600's as international trade/shipping became a focal point of various nations of the world, with the impetus being triangular trade and the Columbian exchange.

    "And of course, the big elephant in the room: the immigration restrictionist laws of 1924 gave the US a much needed breather."

    According to nativists, who believed that "Heritage America" was under attack, and its historic character change. Why not address this "elephant in the room"?

    “That makes you a certified moron! But don’t worry, you are in good company: most of our talking heads and political elites are in the same camp.”



    That would be Fake News on your part.

    “I’m sure a lot of the people here would be far more enthusiastic about immigration if it came from Europe.”

    So it in fact does matter about the origins of immigrants. So how did the derelicts of Eastern and Southern Europe suddenly become honorary members of Anglo-Saxon stock?

    “With that said, we should note that immigrants prior to 1990 basically had to assimilate to survive long-term in the United States.”

    Remove “prior to 1990” and you would be accurate.

    “This is a testament to America’s residual pull, which so many Democrats seem to think is deeply immoral and wish to destroy.”

    No.

    “But many don’t, not helped by the fact that many come from cultures more difficult to reconcile to living in a 21st Century Western society.”

    According to Who/Whom? Remember, the Poles, Italians, and Slavs were able to “reconcile” their ways of life to WASP culture. So, magic dirt it is!

    “They can see the political benefits of bringing their co-ethnics over…”

    No different than European interlopers…
  314. @Jack D
    So, basically there are two kinds of immigrants and they are both bad. The first kind of immigrant is bad because they are dumber than us and so must steal and go on welfare to survive. The other kind of immigrant is bad because they are smarter than us and lord it over us. Since all immigrants are either smarter or dumber than average Americans, we shouldn't take any of them. USCIS should have two rubber stamps with which to stamp all immigration applications - one would read REJECTED - TOO DUMB and the other would read REJECTED - TOO SMART.

    The other kind of immigrant is bad because they are smarter than us and lord it over us.

    It is not only being smart. It is a combination of smartness and clannishness, low morals etc… or a combination of any IQ with a hatred for the host population. The only people smarter on average then Gentile White Americans would be Ashkenazi Jews and North East Asians. IQ is not everything, character matters too because people of low morals destroy a high trust society and being a high trust society played an important part in making the nation so awesome (so that so many outsiders wants to migrate there), in the first place.
    People in Western Societies-Northern Europe, are not clannish as those which live in the “chutzpah world” (Middle East, Africa, South Asia etc….) and so are at a disadvantage when facing these immigrants. Populations there are more individualistic and when a local individual competes against an immigrant individual, he is actually competing as an individual against an entire clan with its network. Obviously the local will lose out at the end and the immigrant chutzpah folks will soon start taking over everything and lord over the natives even if they have lower average IQ than the hosts.

  315. @Malla
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1229643/This-isnt-Britain-fought-say-unknown-warriors-WWII.html

    'This isn't the Britain we fought for,' say the 'unknown warriors' of WWII

    Nearly 400,000 Britons died. Millions more were scarred by the experience, physically and mentally.

    But was it worth it? Her answer - and the answer of many of her contemporaries, now in their 80s and 90s - is a resounding No.

    They despise what has become of the Britain they once fought to save. It's not our country any more, they say, in sorrow and anger.

    Sarah harks back to the days when 'people kept the laws and were polite and courteous. We didn't have much money, but we were contented and happy.

    'People whistled and sang. There was still the United Kingdom, our country, which we had fought for, our freedom, democracy. But where is it now?!'

    ...snip...

    What is extraordinary about the 150 replies he received, which he has now published as a book, is their vehement insistence that those who made the ultimate sacrifice in the war would now be turning in their graves.

    There is the occasional bright spot - one veteran describes Britain as 'still the best country in the world' - but the overall tone is one of profound disillusionment.

    'I sing no song for the once-proud country that spawned me,' wrote a sailor who fought the Japanese in the Far East, 'and I wonder why I ever tried.'

    'My patriotism has gone out of the window,' said another ex-serviceman.

    ...snip....

    Her husband, a veteran of Dunkirk and Burma, died a disappointed man, believing that his seven years in the Army were wasted.

    'It is 18 years since I lost him and as I look around parts of Birmingham today you would never know you were in England,' she wrote.

    'He would have hated it. He also disliked the immoral way things are going. I don't think people are really happy now, for all the modern, easy-living conveniences.

    'I disagree with same-sex marriages, schoolgirl mothers, rubbish TV programmes, so-called celebrities and, most of all, unlimited immigration.

    And the most important thing, had Operation Sea Lion had been a success and the Third Reich would have won the war and survived, would there have been same-sex marriages, schoolgirl mothers, rubbish TV programmes, so-called celebrities and, most of all, unlimited immigration, in a Nationalist Socialist Great Britain today. Nope, no chance at all.
    But would people have kept the laws and would have been polite and courteous. You bet.
    Brits as well as Germans as well as others would have money money AND YET been contented and happy.

  316. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1229643/This-isnt-Britain-fought-say-unknown-warriors-WWII.html

    'This isn't the Britain we fought for,' say the 'unknown warriors' of WWII

    Nearly 400,000 Britons died. Millions more were scarred by the experience, physically and mentally.

    But was it worth it? Her answer - and the answer of many of her contemporaries, now in their 80s and 90s - is a resounding No.

    They despise what has become of the Britain they once fought to save. It's not our country any more, they say, in sorrow and anger.

    Sarah harks back to the days when 'people kept the laws and were polite and courteous. We didn't have much money, but we were contented and happy.

    'People whistled and sang. There was still the United Kingdom, our country, which we had fought for, our freedom, democracy. But where is it now?!'

    ...snip...

    What is extraordinary about the 150 replies he received, which he has now published as a book, is their vehement insistence that those who made the ultimate sacrifice in the war would now be turning in their graves.

    There is the occasional bright spot - one veteran describes Britain as 'still the best country in the world' - but the overall tone is one of profound disillusionment.

    'I sing no song for the once-proud country that spawned me,' wrote a sailor who fought the Japanese in the Far East, 'and I wonder why I ever tried.'

    'My patriotism has gone out of the window,' said another ex-serviceman.

    ...snip....

    Her husband, a veteran of Dunkirk and Burma, died a disappointed man, believing that his seven years in the Army were wasted.

    'It is 18 years since I lost him and as I look around parts of Birmingham today you would never know you were in England,' she wrote.

    'He would have hated it. He also disliked the immoral way things are going. I don't think people are really happy now, for all the modern, easy-living conveniences.

    'I disagree with same-sex marriages, schoolgirl mothers, rubbish TV programmes, so-called celebrities and, most of all, unlimited immigration.

    Sorry to hear the sound of the lament . Why did he join the F*ing army for? Why didn’t he rebel before? Why didn’t he question his grandparents why they didn’t rebel against the British policy of squeezing the last drop of blood of the live inhabitants of the far flung British empire?

    He couldn’t stand the immigration .All those years ,how did he support the illegal immigrants from UK entering those countries and looting?

    • Replies: @Malla

    Why didn’t he question his grandparents why they didn’t rebel against the British policy of squeezing the last drop of blood of the live inhabitants of the far flung British empire?
    All those years ,how did he support the illegal immigrants from UK entering those countries and looting?

     

    British Empire looted its empire is nonsense. I have disproved this Marxist theory so many times, I am tired. Britain would have been rich even without its empire. Go through my posts if you want to.
    , @Just Passing Through
    Anglos and Jews looted the world together, now Jews turned on Anglos and the latter cry out in pain 'how could my partner in crime betray me'.

    Cecil Rhodes, to give just one example, was heavily involved with the Rothschilds and together set up the De Beers company.
  317. @JohnnyWalker123
    East Asians and Indians historically evolved under conditions of overpopulation, limited resources, and extreme competition. So both groups have been subject to a very severe type of Malthusian selection.

    If you read the history of China or India, it's remarkable how many people were killed off by famines. Industrious, frugal peasants toiled tirelessly just to be able to survive. If a peasant was prosperous enough, he might become a merchant. If the merchant was prosperous enough, his son would go to school to become an educated man. Then he'd advise the emperor.

    It seems like both regions were totally the opposite of Africa, the Middle East, and Latin America.

    That's why both East Asians and Indians strongly value family solidarity, high-pressure parenting, education, striving, and cunning. The Tiger Parent culture you see today is a product of enduring thousands of years of the Malthusian death struggle.

    If there was one important difference in evolutionary trajectory, it was that Indians evolved in a much more ethnically fragmented environment.

    So that seems to have selected for tribalism and verbosity/argumentativeness. In homogenous East Asia, there was much more selection for social conformity and nationalistic harmony....Also, in ethnically fragmented India, there was an enormous amount of variation among the various endogamous populations. Some were quite educated and skilled, others lived in destitution and were totally uneducated. In homogenous East Asia, there was a more standard distribution of different traits (like cognitive ability).

    Now you've got the "best and brightest" of East Asia and India coming to the U.S. They're bringing the whole high-pressure "cram school" culture with them, making it much more competitive to get into a good undergrad program or grad school.

    While the East Asians are perhaps somewhat limited by their lack of English fluency, the Indians have the verbosity, chutzpah, and command of English necessary to compete with Whites for top corporate jobs. Also, the Indians are much more into ethnic networking too, so they're importing hordes of their co-ethnics into IT/software.

    I don't want to diminish the competitiveness of East Asians. While they may not be capable of getting to the "C suite" in the U.S., they are very aggressive about acquiring American intellectual property and taking it back to their homelands. Then starting companies to out compete American companies. According to one source, China steals $400 in IP every year from the U.S. You can bet that Asian migrants are a conduit for that.

    All of this is absolutely lowering the standard of living for all of us.

    If there was one important difference in evolutionary trajectory, it was that Indians evolved in a much more ethnically fragmented environment.

    This because the Han brutally murdered the competition, which is telling, and reflected in the continuing differences between the two nations.

    Zero-tolerance efficiency vs. muddling along; soulless collectivism vs. ineffectual syncretism; etc.

    • Replies: @Malla

    This because the Han brutally murdered the competition,
     
    The non Hans around the original Han wanted to join the Han and become Han. The Hans mostly grew by absorbing neighbouring kingdoms and tribes. And the Han themselves were ruled by non Han northerners for a large part of their history.
    India is just racially too mixed and ethnically too diverse and has never been united for most of its history. The Han just did a better job of keeping their nation together and it was Confucianism which helped them do it. It was a practical system to keep such a diverse and huge place together.
  318. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Just passing through
    This is also one of the reasons why support for Israel is generally high. Most people on Unz most likely dislike Jews because of the activities of their elite in Western nations, as such they want to hit back and destroy Israel's national fabric by using low-IQ Palestinians as pawns.

    However for those who are uninitiated in the JQ, this sounds puzzling and they (quite rightly) cannot bring themseleves to sympathise with Palestinians, after witnessing Muslim behaviour in the Western world.

    So even when some IDF sniper shoots a kid in the face, most Westerners just shrug and say 'he shouldn't have been there throwing stones', the Israel-Palestine conflict allows Westerners to enjoy their fanatasies of violence against Muslims being played out in real life, albeit in a completely different part of the world.

    So even when some IDF sniper shoots a kid in the face, most Westerners just shrug and say ‘he shouldn’t have been there throwing stones’, the Israel-Palestine conflict allows Westerners to enjoy their fanatasies of violence against Muslims being played out in real life, albeit in a completely different part of the world.

    Something wrong with the Pals that they allow, even encourage, kids to throw stones when they know their foe will blow them away for it. The rule should be that you do not even look askance at the king, much less swing on him, unless you are pretty sure you can kill him dead. Regicide is a capital crime of course, but in this case so is rock throwing, and better hanged for a sheep as a lamb.

    If the Pals cacked a Burger King or two, their writ would have weight. As it is they’re an annoyance, an errant puppy which craps on the sofa when he feels ignored.

    The puppy is kicked outside when it happens, but once in a while someone has had enough and that puppy gets an early trip across Rainbow Bridge and another mutt is brought in. That upsets some, to be sure, but in the long run if the owner is reasonably discreet (shoot, shovel and shut up) nothing is going to happen. I mean, it’s just a dog.

    Say what you will about a honey badger, he is not so easily dismissed, or dispatched.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    The Hamas leadership has a number of good (from their POV) reasons for organizing the stone throwing - they are not as dumb as you think. Aside from eliciting sympathy from Western Useful Idiots, their fondest desire is to kidnap an Israeli soldier. An Israeli prisoner is like the Golden Ticket for them. The Israelis have a proven willingness to trade thousands of Palestinian terrorists for even 1 living Israeli soldier. Hamas has spent millions of scarce $ trying to dig tunnels so they can pop up out of the ground and kidnap a soldier. Tunnel detection technology has gotten better so their current plan B is to organize riots at the fence line and in the chaos of the riot, dash across the border and kidnap an Israeli. This is why the Israelis shoot anyone who tries to climb the fence. The Israelis announce this in advance so if you approach the fence you are asking for it. The Hamas leadership doesn't care - they have lots of expendable young men.
  319. @anon
    The worst thing about Somalis isn’t their blackness, rather it is their presence in the US at all, where their tribalism is doing long term damage.

    Fixed. No charge.

    …where their tribalism is doing long term damage.

    No, Hindu, Paki, Arab, Han, Ashkenazi, and various other tribalisms are doing us long-term damage. Somalis don’t have the talent to pull anything like that off. Therefore, their clannishness is a plus, for us.

    Black separatism will never get off the ground because they know white support for it will be so strong. Same with Puerto Rican independence. Give Somalis credit for not embracing us the way others have.

  320. @UK
    The only major thing people like about Muslim countries is how emotionally intense they are. I find it creepy and infantile, but some love all of the alternately pompous grandiose aggressive alternately wailing and gnashing of teeth victimey psycho-drama. They think it is authentic.

    Other than that, there is some credibility that comes from swanning around with oil money, I suppose.

    Neither are going to work out well for those countries. Shouting nonsense while jabbing your finger in the air is not a great substitute for competence.

    The only major thing people like about Muslim countries is how emotionally intense they are. I find it creepy and infantile…

    Prepare to be seriously creeped out:

    The Dancing Boys of Afghanistan

    This was produced by a grown man who calls himself “Jamie”, which is creepy enough. But this Jamie can be forgiven, having served us in this way.

    • Agree: UK
  321. @nebulafox
    >Except I’m not a liberal.

    You are a "modern" Christian who just happens to rattle off NPR talking points when you aren't busy concern trolling...

    >You may be surprised that our federal government was involved in several programs designed to help certain groups which laid the ground work for this “welfare state”.

    Which bears no resemblance whatsoever to the New Deal, let alone the Great Society programs of the 1960s, in terms of scope and cost alike. America's gotten away with the levels of immigration it has had because of the US dollar's position as the world's reserve currency. That's a game with a finite limit.

    >So what in your view constitutes a “truly globalized economy”?

    A world where you can travel from China to the US in less than 24 hours, transmit currency and communicate instantaneously across borders, where the US economy can be pot, where the overwhelming majority of countries ascribe to the same basic economic formula (albeit with massive variants in the degree of regulation, etc), where shipping and plane costs are cheap, where you can hire someone halfway around the world because they are cheaper, etc, etc... kind of makes mass immigration a different game, right, particularly the low-skilled variant?

    Didn't you once say you were a teacher? If so, shouldn't you know that the world today is vastly different than it was in 1910? I feel bad for your students. It should also be mentioned that even with a far stronger, uncompromising emphasis on assimilation, it took the USA a lot of time and effort to absorb all the new arrivals from Europe, and it wasn't an entirely smooth process, as seen by the social unrest of the immediate post-WWI period. It is not an accident that US Catholicism heavily resembles Protestantism! And of course, the big elephant in the room: the immigration restrictionist laws of 1924 gave the US a much needed breather. Today, we aren't even trying.

    >Except that is not the entire argument I am making.

    Not the *entire* argument, eh? So, on some level, you do think it is applicable. That makes you a certified moron! But don't worry, you are in good company: most of our talking heads and political elites are in the same camp.

    >What I find deliciously hypocritical is the progeny of immigrants today make the claim how the dark Kenyans and squatty Guatemalans are incapable of assimilating…when their ancestors had been on the receiving end of such charges compliments of nativists.

    Well, it doesn't really matter: as I've stated, the economic realities of the 21st Century make mass immigration a far more risky long-term proposition from a century ago, regardless of the origin of the immigrants. I'm sure a lot of the people here would be far more enthusiastic about immigration if it came from Europe (and you'd probably find that all of a sudden, many left-wingers would be far less enthusiastic about mass immigration), but assuming similar numerical quantities and quality levels, that wouldn't change the socioeconomic problems it poses.

    With that said, we should note that immigrants prior to 1990 basically had to assimilate to survive long-term in the United States. We no longer insist on that, as a society, nor do we have the same relatively stringent filters: just talk to anybody who has worked as a programmer and deals with the H1-B visa system, with all the negative effects that had on tech workplaces in the United States. Quite a different group of people from the scientists that typically characterized subcontinental immigration in the 1970s and 1980s.

    Many of the immigrants, particularly the children of the educated, assimilate anyway. This is a testament to America's residual pull, which so many Democrats seem to think is deeply immoral and wish to destroy. But many don't, not helped by the fact that many come from cultures more difficult to reconcile to living in a 21st Century Western society. As usual, this is a problem more deeply felt the lower you go on the socioeconomic scale, particularly when chain migration is brought into the picture. But even on higher rungs, there are negative societal consequences to people viewing the US as a marketplace with a nation rather than the other way around. We don't need more social atomization, given everything else going on, and the goal should be given the last couple of decades of mass immigration to defuse racial tensions rather than further exacerbating them. It fits in well with short-term elite interests, whether in the business community or in politics, but isn't a winning formula, long-term.

    (It's also worth stating that many, though not all, immigrants tend to have far more sane view on immigration than SWPL types do. They can see the political benefits of bringing their co-ethnics over, but many left for the US because many of their home nations were crapholes, and they understand that too many means the US becomes more like the places they tried to leave! And economics plays a role, too. Since I work in software, I'll talk about an example I'm intimately familiar with: immigrant programmers from countries other than India are not fans of HR 1044 once they learn about it, because if the limits on India were removed, they'd all be swamped as much as the natives. There's a reason there's a near media-blackout on that bill. The donors from the tech world know how unpopular it'd be. Luckily, Trump is enough of a shallow putz-and a plutocrat himself-so if they can get it to him without issues and keep it out of the spotlight during election year, they'll get what they want.)

    >Magic dirt anyone?

    Careful, Corvy. Using terms like this may lead one to believe that your relationship with Vox Day and the alt-right is suspiciously CAGEY... don't want to blow your cover, right?

    It is not an accident that US Catholicism heavily resembles Protestantism!

    In that “cultural Catholics” shack up, swing, divorce, and take communion without confession. But the Protestants have regained their lead with rainbow flags, witch bishops, and ceremonies to match.

  322. @Mr McKenna
    Indeed! But I wonder if they have even the slightest inkling what would happen to them if they tried any of that in the USA. Hey! Why don't we ever seem to get these Indians over here??
  323. anon[224] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    many WW2 British vets who regret fighting in the war
     
    Who are these vets who regretted saving their country from eternal Nazi rule? I've never met one.

    I met a few Aussie veterans from that war who regretted it and the things they had to do to the end of their days.
    I was told that plenty of 14/18 war veterans were filthy about the Dardanelles Campaign, the management of the war in general, and Winston Churchill’s role in particular.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I grew up in St.Louis and American WWII vets were ubiquitous. A few hinted at regrets and others just got clamface about the war but as a kid you don’t pick up on that. Later I attended a few meetings of the National Alliance and there were American, and one Australian WWII vet and they were diplomatic but clear they regretted their involvement.

    I also met a couple from the other side. It was interesting.
  324. @Anon
    He's Glasgow's oldest cabbie. Most young and middle aged cabbies in Anglo countries are Indian, Arab, or East African.

    Whites rarely take the job.

    Too dirty, unclean, and difficult.

    Most young and middle aged cabbies in Anglo countries are Indian, Arab, or East African.
    Whites rarely take the job.

    Actually there are many Anglo countries or Western countries where White people drive cabs, I myself have been driven by White taxi drivers in small towns in the west. it is just that when foreigners appear, the proportion of White taxi drivers reduce for some reason.

    Too dirty, unclean, and difficult.

    Oh Please, Taxi driving is not as dirty or unclean as compared to say mining.

    Unless you as a cab driver are driving someone to the ghetto.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Miner and taxi driver are about equally dangerous (and 1/3 of taxi driver deaths are due to violence, not auto accident). However mining pays around twice as well, which explains why whites are more attracted to it.

    21. Taxi drivers and chauffeurs
    • Fatal injuries in 2017: 10.5 per 100,000 workers
    • Total: 62 fatal injuries, 2,640 nonfatal injuries
    • Median annual wage: $24,880



    20. Mining machine operators
    • Fatal injuries in 2017: 11.7 per 100,000 workers
    • Total: 7 fatal injuries, 370 nonfatal injuries
    • Median annual wage: $53,200

    #1 most dangerous occupation is fisherman, #2 is logger and #3 is pilot.
    , @Anonymous
    Hardly anyone works in mining in America. Not more than 50,000.

    Hispanic immigrants are recruited for a lot of the poorly paid and dirty work.
  325. @DB Cooper
    There are called Indiots for a reason.

    http://www.indiots2.com/

    That webpage seems to be more of a testament to their ingenuity to be honest.

    The truth of the matter is that Chinese like you have contributed more to the decline of America than Indians. At worst Indians send money back to India, Chinese meanwhile send back secrets and tech. China would be like I did if it weren’t for Americans allowing you sinoids to infiltrate the countries intellectual industries.

    Australia currently is inundated with Chinese spies, in the UK, Chinese academics where I work regularly ‘work hard at night’ in the server rooms when no non-Chinese is around. I have complained about this but was turned away for being ‘racist’.

    The amount of shilling yoh do is a testament to the fact that you Chinese are up to no good, the Indians shilling on this blog are just insecure types, you meanwhile have a pre-prepared scripts and links.

    ‘Look laowai, those Indians are the real threat, us Chinese are model minorities who work hard in the White Man’s research labs when nobody is around, please don’t notice how similar our tech looks to yours, we came up with it due to our 105 IQ, China also has the 4 Great New Chinese inventions laowai, we invented the high-speed rail, e-commerce, electronic payment and bike sharing, if you notice that none of these are actually Chinese but Western or Japanese, you are a racist and we will throw a hissy fit”

    I have to give it to you sinoids, you do like to play innocent and feminine, but unfortunately, our elites havnt woken up to the threat our countries face from you co-ethnics.

    What has China really invented over the past few hundred years? Charles Murray says 97% of the major innovations were done by Northern Europeans, the rest was Arab, Indian and Chinese.

    Why are so many of your co-ethnics still flooding into Western universities when Whites only have an IQ of 100 and superior Chinese have an IQ of 105?

    Where are all the brilliant Chinese mathematicians? They seem to be pretty into international maths Olympiads yet most people cannot name a single Chinese mathematicians. What is the Chinese equivalent of Euler, Newton, Leibniz, Descartes, Pascal, Germany etc etc?

    You Chinese have really pulled the wool over the eyes of Westerners, it is shameful that Whites actually think you sinoids are intelligent just because you get A grades in Western universities.

    Sadly, none of our treacherous global elite have the cojones to take you on, I guarantee we could destroy your entire country within a few months, sadly America don’t drop the Big One on you when they had the chance.

    • Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    There is no "better" or "worse". All alien tribes pose a threat to my tribe. Close the borders and let them improve their own shitholes.
    , @Malla
    DB Cooper is Taiwanese. ROC Taiwan developed decades before the PRC. He is a Han nationalist (of course the ROC were the original nationalists fighting the Commies, come to think of it). He hates the CCP with a vengeance, blames the CCP for losing traditional Chinese territory.
  326. @anon
    Sorry to hear the sound of the lament . Why did he join the F*ing army for? Why didn't he rebel before? Why didn't he question his grandparents why they didn't rebel against the British policy of squeezing the last drop of blood of the live inhabitants of the far flung British empire?

    He couldn't stand the immigration .All those years ,how did he support the illegal immigrants from UK entering those countries and looting?

    Why didn’t he question his grandparents why they didn’t rebel against the British policy of squeezing the last drop of blood of the live inhabitants of the far flung British empire?
    All those years ,how did he support the illegal immigrants from UK entering those countries and looting?

    British Empire looted its empire is nonsense. I have disproved this Marxist theory so many times, I am tired. Britain would have been rich even without its empire. Go through my posts if you want to.

    • Replies: @Just Passing Through
    The average standard of living in the UK would have been the same, but the British did indeed loot the world in cahoots with their Jewish merchant friends.

    Do you really think they were occupying all these countries for fun? That's like saying the US is occupying all these countries in the Middle East as part of the White Man's Burden to bring democracy and freedom™ to the savages.
  327. @anon
    Sorry to hear the sound of the lament . Why did he join the F*ing army for? Why didn't he rebel before? Why didn't he question his grandparents why they didn't rebel against the British policy of squeezing the last drop of blood of the live inhabitants of the far flung British empire?

    He couldn't stand the immigration .All those years ,how did he support the illegal immigrants from UK entering those countries and looting?

    Anglos and Jews looted the world together, now Jews turned on Anglos and the latter cry out in pain ‘how could my partner in crime betray me’.

    Cecil Rhodes, to give just one example, was heavily involved with the Rothschilds and together set up the De Beers company.

  328. @Autochthon

    If there was one important difference in evolutionary trajectory, it was that Indians evolved in a much more ethnically fragmented environment.
     
    This because the Han brutally murdered the competition, which is telling, and reflected in the continuing differences between the two nations.

    Zero-tolerance efficiency vs. muddling along; soulless collectivism vs. ineffectual syncretism; etc.

    This because the Han brutally murdered the competition,

    The non Hans around the original Han wanted to join the Han and become Han. The Hans mostly grew by absorbing neighbouring kingdoms and tribes. And the Han themselves were ruled by non Han northerners for a large part of their history.
    India is just racially too mixed and ethnically too diverse and has never been united for most of its history. The Han just did a better job of keeping their nation together and it was Confucianism which helped them do it. It was a practical system to keep such a diverse and huge place together.

  329. @Just Passing Through
    That webpage seems to be more of a testament to their ingenuity to be honest.

    The truth of the matter is that Chinese like you have contributed more to the decline of America than Indians. At worst Indians send money back to India, Chinese meanwhile send back secrets and tech. China would be like I did if it weren't for Americans allowing you sinoids to infiltrate the countries intellectual industries.

    Australia currently is inundated with Chinese spies, in the UK, Chinese academics where I work regularly 'work hard at night' in the server rooms when no non-Chinese is around. I have complained about this but was turned away for being 'racist'.

    The amount of shilling yoh do is a testament to the fact that you Chinese are up to no good, the Indians shilling on this blog are just insecure types, you meanwhile have a pre-prepared scripts and links.

    'Look laowai, those Indians are the real threat, us Chinese are model minorities who work hard in the White Man's research labs when nobody is around, please don't notice how similar our tech looks to yours, we came up with it due to our 105 IQ, China also has the 4 Great New Chinese inventions laowai, we invented the high-speed rail, e-commerce, electronic payment and bike sharing, if you notice that none of these are actually Chinese but Western or Japanese, you are a racist and we will throw a hissy fit"

    I have to give it to you sinoids, you do like to play innocent and feminine, but unfortunately, our elites havnt woken up to the threat our countries face from you co-ethnics.

    What has China really invented over the past few hundred years? Charles Murray says 97% of the major innovations were done by Northern Europeans, the rest was Arab, Indian and Chinese.

    Why are so many of your co-ethnics still flooding into Western universities when Whites only have an IQ of 100 and superior Chinese have an IQ of 105?

    Where are all the brilliant Chinese mathematicians? They seem to be pretty into international maths Olympiads yet most people cannot name a single Chinese mathematicians. What is the Chinese equivalent of Euler, Newton, Leibniz, Descartes, Pascal, Germany etc etc?

    You Chinese have really pulled the wool over the eyes of Westerners, it is shameful that Whites actually think you sinoids are intelligent just because you get A grades in Western universities.

    Sadly, none of our treacherous global elite have the cojones to take you on, I guarantee we could destroy your entire country within a few months, sadly America don't drop the Big One on you when they had the chance.

    There is no “better” or “worse”. All alien tribes pose a threat to my tribe. Close the borders and let them improve their own shitholes.

  330. @Just Passing Through
    That webpage seems to be more of a testament to their ingenuity to be honest.

    The truth of the matter is that Chinese like you have contributed more to the decline of America than Indians. At worst Indians send money back to India, Chinese meanwhile send back secrets and tech. China would be like I did if it weren't for Americans allowing you sinoids to infiltrate the countries intellectual industries.

    Australia currently is inundated with Chinese spies, in the UK, Chinese academics where I work regularly 'work hard at night' in the server rooms when no non-Chinese is around. I have complained about this but was turned away for being 'racist'.

    The amount of shilling yoh do is a testament to the fact that you Chinese are up to no good, the Indians shilling on this blog are just insecure types, you meanwhile have a pre-prepared scripts and links.

    'Look laowai, those Indians are the real threat, us Chinese are model minorities who work hard in the White Man's research labs when nobody is around, please don't notice how similar our tech looks to yours, we came up with it due to our 105 IQ, China also has the 4 Great New Chinese inventions laowai, we invented the high-speed rail, e-commerce, electronic payment and bike sharing, if you notice that none of these are actually Chinese but Western or Japanese, you are a racist and we will throw a hissy fit"

    I have to give it to you sinoids, you do like to play innocent and feminine, but unfortunately, our elites havnt woken up to the threat our countries face from you co-ethnics.

    What has China really invented over the past few hundred years? Charles Murray says 97% of the major innovations were done by Northern Europeans, the rest was Arab, Indian and Chinese.

    Why are so many of your co-ethnics still flooding into Western universities when Whites only have an IQ of 100 and superior Chinese have an IQ of 105?

    Where are all the brilliant Chinese mathematicians? They seem to be pretty into international maths Olympiads yet most people cannot name a single Chinese mathematicians. What is the Chinese equivalent of Euler, Newton, Leibniz, Descartes, Pascal, Germany etc etc?

    You Chinese have really pulled the wool over the eyes of Westerners, it is shameful that Whites actually think you sinoids are intelligent just because you get A grades in Western universities.

    Sadly, none of our treacherous global elite have the cojones to take you on, I guarantee we could destroy your entire country within a few months, sadly America don't drop the Big One on you when they had the chance.

    DB Cooper is Taiwanese. ROC Taiwan developed decades before the PRC. He is a Han nationalist (of course the ROC were the original nationalists fighting the Commies, come to think of it). He hates the CCP with a vengeance, blames the CCP for losing traditional Chinese territory.

    • Replies: @Just Passing Through
    Taiwan has benefited greatly from Western technology, they more or less grew rich making our goods that Western scientists and innovators made.

    America still protests that little pain in the sides against China. They have literally no domestic defence industry and rely on the White man for everything.

    Likewise, the Chinese defence industry is just a series of western copies. They have only just managed to reverse engineer a Russian jet engines and are now claiming it as their own.

    Why do people actually believe that East Asians are smart? They are just good at doing tests. Then they get some job in the West which involves handling White man innovations and send the blueprints back home. Sinoid shills on this board will always cite some useless metric like number of research papers from China but all this proves is that Chinese are good at churning out garbage that other Chinese cite in their garage papers. They still come here to the West to study at our universities while gloating about how smart China is!

    If foreigners want to come to the US or some other Western country to study at an undergraduate level and pay tuition fees and benefit the local economy by spending, then packing up and going home, fine it is good for us and good for them, they can go back to their own countries to develop it further. But why are we letting them work in our research facilities where they can go back home at Anny time and outcompete us?

    Chinese have cottoned on to the West's weakness, political correctness, they will exploit it very skillfully in the coming years. Like Jews, simple criticism of some Chinese institution will now result in howls of racism, the sinoid journalists will bring up how the evil West abused them in the past with things like the Chinese exclusion act or Opium wars, all while sucking our countries dry.

    Australia, the once proud British settler nation, is now a satrapy of the Chinese, politically and increasingly demographically. Chinese have no qualms about displaying their ethnocentric behaviour in Australia as they now the White leaders are the bitches of the PRC

    https://theconversation.com/asio-chief-mike-burgess-says-there-are-more-spies-in-australia-than-at-the-height-of-the-cold-war-132384

    https://news.yahoo.com/china-copied-russian-jet-fighter-125900746.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAEs7Rkx38lNf03G8EvLfeW8hIVIs4Ar5vK5AM1MMMHQwRISKvTaVvhlxz6M39TkvXblLetJreoIjf2P-ABEZdJfaZ7nM0hhIRCOuGKNQR5i21UDcCQizXZf8ONX53iE5M2mAP-IbQC0jzb_A4NlUksLD5x_GGVTl4NFsrhqtzMsS

    If it weren't for the international clique, the White nations could isolate China easily, they just build junk for us that we don't actually need and production could be brought back within a few years. Yet because the clique likes to skim the profits, they only care about the stock market and neoliberal immigration policy which allows H-1B Indian coding coolies and treacherous sinoids into our countries.

    When push comes to shove, the sinoids will not miss a heartbeat before backstabbing our nations.
  331. @Malla
    DB Cooper is Taiwanese. ROC Taiwan developed decades before the PRC. He is a Han nationalist (of course the ROC were the original nationalists fighting the Commies, come to think of it). He hates the CCP with a vengeance, blames the CCP for losing traditional Chinese territory.

    Taiwan has benefited greatly from Western technology, they more or less grew rich making our goods that Western scientists and innovators made.

    America still protests that little pain in the sides against China. They have literally no domestic defence industry and rely on the White man for everything.

    Likewise, the Chinese defence industry is just a series of western copies. They have only just managed to reverse engineer a Russian jet engines and are now claiming it as their own.

    Why do people actually believe that East Asians are smart? They are just good at doing tests. Then they get some job in the West which involves handling White man innovations and send the blueprints back home. Sinoid shills on this board will always cite some useless metric like number of research papers from China but all this proves is that Chinese are good at churning out garbage that other Chinese cite in their garage papers. They still come here to the West to study at our universities while gloating about how smart China is!

    If foreigners want to come to the US or some other Western country to study at an undergraduate level and pay tuition fees and benefit the local economy by spending, then packing up and going home, fine it is good for us and good for them, they can go back to their own countries to develop it further. But why are we letting them work in our research facilities where they can go back home at Anny time and outcompete us?

    Chinese have cottoned on to the West’s weakness, political correctness, they will exploit it very skillfully in the coming years. Like Jews, simple criticism of some Chinese institution will now result in howls of racism, the sinoid journalists will bring up how the evil West abused them in the past with things like the Chinese exclusion act or Opium wars, all while sucking our countries dry.

    Australia, the once proud British settler nation, is now a satrapy of the Chinese, politically and increasingly demographically. Chinese have no qualms about displaying their ethnocentric behaviour in Australia as they now the White leaders are the bitches of the PRC

    https://theconversation.com/asio-chief-mike-burgess-says-there-are-more-spies-in-australia-than-at-the-height-of-the-cold-war-132384

    https://news.yahoo.com/china-copied-russian-jet-fighter-125900746.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAEs7Rkx38lNf03G8EvLfeW8hIVIs4Ar5vK5AM1MMMHQwRISKvTaVvhlxz6M39TkvXblLetJreoIjf2P-ABEZdJfaZ7nM0hhIRCOuGKNQR5i21UDcCQizXZf8ONX53iE5M2mAP-IbQC0jzb_A4NlUksLD5x_GGVTl4NFsrhqtzMsS

    If it weren’t for the international clique, the White nations could isolate China easily, they just build junk for us that we don’t actually need and production could be brought back within a few years. Yet because the clique likes to skim the profits, they only care about the stock market and neoliberal immigration policy which allows H-1B Indian coding coolies and treacherous sinoids into our countries.

    When push comes to shove, the sinoids will not miss a heartbeat before backstabbing our nations.

  332. @Malla

    Why didn’t he question his grandparents why they didn’t rebel against the British policy of squeezing the last drop of blood of the live inhabitants of the far flung British empire?
    All those years ,how did he support the illegal immigrants from UK entering those countries and looting?

     

    British Empire looted its empire is nonsense. I have disproved this Marxist theory so many times, I am tired. Britain would have been rich even without its empire. Go through my posts if you want to.

    The average standard of living in the UK would have been the same, but the British did indeed loot the world in cahoots with their Jewish merchant friends.

    Do you really think they were occupying all these countries for fun? That’s like saying the US is occupying all these countries in the Middle East as part of the White Man’s Burden to bring democracy and freedom™ to the savages.

    • Replies: @Malla
    Empires are not the best way to make money in the long run. Empires become expensive very fast. Britain actually lost money on India. Even if there were Brits who looted the world with their Jewish pals, Africa & India are not poor because of European Empires and Europe is not rich because of those Empires.
    , @Malla

    Do you really think they were occupying all these countries for fun?
     
    A lot of the occupations, could have happened due to the fear of or to deny a rival power a strategic land. If you check out the British conquest of India, it was Franco-British rivalry & competition which led to the start of the Indian Empire. India was going French more than English during a certain period especially in Southern India. Had that been the case, Calcutta (Kolkata) and Madras (Chennai) would have been small towns know for their quint English architecture and Chandanagore and Pondicherry would have been the big metropolises. But since history went on the side of Brits, Pondichery is a Union Territory with quint French architecture, Chandanagore is just a town with French architecture while Calcutta and Madras are mega cities.
    Inter-European rivalry played a big part in the creation of those giant Empires. Later the Americans and Japanese joined in.
  333. @Rob
    Jack, are you just now catching on that a lot of people here want no immigrants of any sort for any reason?

    People are so interconnected now, and there are so many social programs, including public education, that the too dumb immigrants are so clearly a net negative that it astounds me that there is much disagreement, outside of politicians who need oligarch money. The too smart immigrants are a bit more complicated. They tend to come from the exploitive elites of low trust societies into a country where elite ethics, are, well, not what they could be. They are eligible for preferences from college admissions, to grad and professional schools, in employment, and government programs like small business financing, and contracting. Even the ones like Indians who do not receive AA in med school, their race and ethnicity doesn’t count against them, like it does for cishet white guys. Indians seem to hit the ground running for race hustling, and corporate exploitation.

    I think that, on the whole, even immigrants who are well above the white mean IQ are a net negative for Americans in the numbers they come in and the culture they join.

    I’m not a closed borders guy, though. I would happily let every Senator sponsor, say, ten immigrants a year who would only be allowed to reside in his state, and could even bring a spouse and even several minor children of the two parents. At those numbers, we would probably get more brilliant chemists than Guatemalan women and their bastards. But even if some Senators wanted to virtue signal and chose the Guatemalans, at only ten a year they wouldn’t be much of a burden.

    Suggest that the 10 immigrants/yr reside on the Senators property and that the Senator is financially responsible for any and all unpaid bills from the immigrants. Time for someone other than taxpayers to eat these expenses.

  334. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Sure, but if America sealed its borders so that we can adopt a more relaxed and leisurely lifestyle, we would become less competitive globally against other countries.
     
    Is it a "relaxed and leisurely lifestyle" for a bright boy to play baseball, have friends, kiss girls and read Hardy Boys books because he likes them in addition to his studies?

    It seems to me that in the 1950s and 1960s the U.S. was dominant globally and its boys played baseball.

    Perhaps the idea of a society isn't to engage in an eternal zero sum struggle in every aspect of life? Maybe what we should have is a culture which isn't obsessively entirely directed to producing cubicle-dwelling wage slaves for maximizing GDP?

    Do you really think the ultra competitive cramming Asians in the U.S. (dots and chopsticks) are having a grand old time doing it? Do you suppose that the Tiger Parenting model involves not a small amount of what most people would consider mental and emotional abuse of children, without accounting for the possibility that the abuse involves a physical element as well?

    I also prefer the kind of life you describe to the culture of soulless grind. And I think Asians prefer it too – traditional Asian culture celebrates a life of refined artistic leisure in beautiful natural settings, or a life of contemplation.

    The Asian grind today is an understandable response to being humiliated by the West in the 19th century. It is making many Asians miserable. And I don’t think Asians have any special aptitude for STEM – their traditional culture is explicitly hostile to excessive logic and rationality, and explicitly hostile to excessive engineering.

    You are telling me that a people that for milllenia despised excessively logical thinking, and despised interfering too much with nature through engineering, has a special aptitude for just those thing. No – Asians grind at STEM precisely because it is the key to modern power, and the key to self defense, while being something their traditional culture is deficient in.

    However, your own ideal has a contradiction – you want the “good life” but also want to be dominant globally. That can’t happen. The 1950s in America was a time of grim and serious grind and amibition – so much so that that the 60s revolution tried to sweep all that away, basing itself ironically in classic Asian cultural texts.

    So we do have a choice to make – but it doesn’t have to be a hard choice. We can still be wealthy and competitive, but place the emphasis on the good life – which simply means no longer dominant or super-wealthy.

  335. Anonymous[916] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    I met a few Aussie veterans from that war who regretted it and the things they had to do to the end of their days.
    I was told that plenty of 14/18 war veterans were filthy about the Dardanelles Campaign, the management of the war in general, and Winston Churchill's role in particular.

    I grew up in St.Louis and American WWII vets were ubiquitous. A few hinted at regrets and others just got clamface about the war but as a kid you don’t pick up on that. Later I attended a few meetings of the National Alliance and there were American, and one Australian WWII vet and they were diplomatic but clear they regretted their involvement.

    I also met a couple from the other side. It was interesting.

  336. @Anonymous

    So even when some IDF sniper shoots a kid in the face, most Westerners just shrug and say ‘he shouldn’t have been there throwing stones’, the Israel-Palestine conflict allows Westerners to enjoy their fanatasies of violence against Muslims being played out in real life, albeit in a completely different part of the world.
     
    Something wrong with the Pals that they allow, even encourage, kids to throw stones when they know their foe will blow them away for it. The rule should be that you do not even look askance at the king, much less swing on him, unless you are pretty sure you can kill him dead. Regicide is a capital crime of course, but in this case so is rock throwing, and better hanged for a sheep as a lamb.

    If the Pals cacked a Burger King or two, their writ would have weight. As it is they're an annoyance, an errant puppy which craps on the sofa when he feels ignored.

    The puppy is kicked outside when it happens, but once in a while someone has had enough and that puppy gets an early trip across Rainbow Bridge and another mutt is brought in. That upsets some, to be sure, but in the long run if the owner is reasonably discreet (shoot, shovel and shut up) nothing is going to happen. I mean, it's just a dog.

    Say what you will about a honey badger, he is not so easily dismissed, or dispatched.

    The Hamas leadership has a number of good (from their POV) reasons for organizing the stone throwing – they are not as dumb as you think. Aside from eliciting sympathy from Western Useful Idiots, their fondest desire is to kidnap an Israeli soldier. An Israeli prisoner is like the Golden Ticket for them. The Israelis have a proven willingness to trade thousands of Palestinian terrorists for even 1 living Israeli soldier. Hamas has spent millions of scarce $ trying to dig tunnels so they can pop up out of the ground and kidnap a soldier. Tunnel detection technology has gotten better so their current plan B is to organize riots at the fence line and in the chaos of the riot, dash across the border and kidnap an Israeli. This is why the Israelis shoot anyone who tries to climb the fence. The Israelis announce this in advance so if you approach the fence you are asking for it. The Hamas leadership doesn’t care – they have lots of expendable young men.

    • Replies: @Just Passing Through
    Suppose they manage to kidnap enough Israeli soldiers to get all the Palestinian prisoners back, what then? No more rioting? Would they spend that aid money on useful things?
  337. @nebulafox
    >Except I’m not a liberal.

    You are a "modern" Christian who just happens to rattle off NPR talking points when you aren't busy concern trolling...

    >You may be surprised that our federal government was involved in several programs designed to help certain groups which laid the ground work for this “welfare state”.

    Which bears no resemblance whatsoever to the New Deal, let alone the Great Society programs of the 1960s, in terms of scope and cost alike. America's gotten away with the levels of immigration it has had because of the US dollar's position as the world's reserve currency. That's a game with a finite limit.

    >So what in your view constitutes a “truly globalized economy”?

    A world where you can travel from China to the US in less than 24 hours, transmit currency and communicate instantaneously across borders, where the US economy can be pot, where the overwhelming majority of countries ascribe to the same basic economic formula (albeit with massive variants in the degree of regulation, etc), where shipping and plane costs are cheap, where you can hire someone halfway around the world because they are cheaper, etc, etc... kind of makes mass immigration a different game, right, particularly the low-skilled variant?

    Didn't you once say you were a teacher? If so, shouldn't you know that the world today is vastly different than it was in 1910? I feel bad for your students. It should also be mentioned that even with a far stronger, uncompromising emphasis on assimilation, it took the USA a lot of time and effort to absorb all the new arrivals from Europe, and it wasn't an entirely smooth process, as seen by the social unrest of the immediate post-WWI period. It is not an accident that US Catholicism heavily resembles Protestantism! And of course, the big elephant in the room: the immigration restrictionist laws of 1924 gave the US a much needed breather. Today, we aren't even trying.

    >Except that is not the entire argument I am making.

    Not the *entire* argument, eh? So, on some level, you do think it is applicable. That makes you a certified moron! But don't worry, you are in good company: most of our talking heads and political elites are in the same camp.

    >What I find deliciously hypocritical is the progeny of immigrants today make the claim how the dark Kenyans and squatty Guatemalans are incapable of assimilating…when their ancestors had been on the receiving end of such charges compliments of nativists.

    Well, it doesn't really matter: as I've stated, the economic realities of the 21st Century make mass immigration a far more risky long-term proposition from a century ago, regardless of the origin of the immigrants. I'm sure a lot of the people here would be far more enthusiastic about immigration if it came from Europe (and you'd probably find that all of a sudden, many left-wingers would be far less enthusiastic about mass immigration), but assuming similar numerical quantities and quality levels, that wouldn't change the socioeconomic problems it poses.

    With that said, we should note that immigrants prior to 1990 basically had to assimilate to survive long-term in the United States. We no longer insist on that, as a society, nor do we have the same relatively stringent filters: just talk to anybody who has worked as a programmer and deals with the H1-B visa system, with all the negative effects that had on tech workplaces in the United States. Quite a different group of people from the scientists that typically characterized subcontinental immigration in the 1970s and 1980s.

    Many of the immigrants, particularly the children of the educated, assimilate anyway. This is a testament to America's residual pull, which so many Democrats seem to think is deeply immoral and wish to destroy. But many don't, not helped by the fact that many come from cultures more difficult to reconcile to living in a 21st Century Western society. As usual, this is a problem more deeply felt the lower you go on the socioeconomic scale, particularly when chain migration is brought into the picture. But even on higher rungs, there are negative societal consequences to people viewing the US as a marketplace with a nation rather than the other way around. We don't need more social atomization, given everything else going on, and the goal should be given the last couple of decades of mass immigration to defuse racial tensions rather than further exacerbating them. It fits in well with short-term elite interests, whether in the business community or in politics, but isn't a winning formula, long-term.

    (It's also worth stating that many, though not all, immigrants tend to have far more sane view on immigration than SWPL types do. They can see the political benefits of bringing their co-ethnics over, but many left for the US because many of their home nations were crapholes, and they understand that too many means the US becomes more like the places they tried to leave! And economics plays a role, too. Since I work in software, I'll talk about an example I'm intimately familiar with: immigrant programmers from countries other than India are not fans of HR 1044 once they learn about it, because if the limits on India were removed, they'd all be swamped as much as the natives. There's a reason there's a near media-blackout on that bill. The donors from the tech world know how unpopular it'd be. Luckily, Trump is enough of a shallow putz-and a plutocrat himself-so if they can get it to him without issues and keep it out of the spotlight during election year, they'll get what they want.)

    >Magic dirt anyone?

    Careful, Corvy. Using terms like this may lead one to believe that your relationship with Vox Day and the alt-right is suspiciously CAGEY... don't want to blow your cover, right?

    “You are a “modern” Christian who just happens to rattle off NPR talking points when you aren’t busy concern trolling…”

    Actually, I am an educated married white man with children who makes his own decisions about race, religion, and culture. So you are completely off the mark.

    “Which bears no resemblance whatsoever to the New Deal, let alone the Great Society programs of the 1960s, in terms of scope and cost alike.”

    But the fact remains the federal government in the 1800’s was involved in some aspect of providing relief to specific groups of people. And the problems that faced people in 1900 demanded increased government oversight and direct efforts to assist them economically and socially. It was in large part the result of citizen demand.

    “A world where you can travel from China to the US in less than 24 hours, transmit currency and communicate instantaneously across borders, where the US economy can be pot, where the overwhelming majority of countries ascribe to the same basic economic formula…”

    What you are describing is an expanding globalized economy. Some would argue that a “truly globalized economy” began in earnest in the 1600’s as international trade/shipping became a focal point of various nations of the world, with the impetus being triangular trade and the Columbian exchange.

    “And of course, the big elephant in the room: the immigration restrictionist laws of 1924 gave the US a much needed breather.”

    According to nativists, who believed that “Heritage America” was under attack, and its historic character change. Why not address this “elephant in the room”?

    “That makes you a certified moron! But don’t worry, you are in good company: most of our talking heads and political elites are in the same camp.”



    That would be Fake News on your part.

    “I’m sure a lot of the people here would be far more enthusiastic about immigration if it came from Europe.”

    So it in fact does matter about the origins of immigrants. So how did the derelicts of Eastern and Southern Europe suddenly become honorary members of Anglo-Saxon stock?

    “With that said, we should note that immigrants prior to 1990 basically had to assimilate to survive long-term in the United States.”

    Remove “prior to 1990” and you would be accurate.

    “This is a testament to America’s residual pull, which so many Democrats seem to think is deeply immoral and wish to destroy.”

    No.

    “But many don’t, not helped by the fact that many come from cultures more difficult to reconcile to living in a 21st Century Western society.”

    According to Who/Whom? Remember, the Poles, Italians, and Slavs were able to “reconcile” their ways of life to WASP culture. So, magic dirt it is!

    “They can see the political benefits of bringing their co-ethnics over…”

    No different than European interlopers…

  338. Anon[262] • Disclaimer says:

    Sailer, you’re a smart guy. I remember you writing – in frustration – a while back how you felt like you were the only Republican with MS Excel, around the time you came up with the Sailer Strategy. But this latest post is crudely uneducated and lacking numeracy.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    Despite having a 2,000 mile border with China, India keeps the bilateral ties to an absolute minimum. Whereas American leadership encouraged investment in China (with the total destruction of the nation’s manufacturing base) under the illusion that blue jeans and rock n’ roll would lead to Western capitalism and democracy, India lives with no such illusions. As such, there have been only 3 cases of Coronavirus in India with three recoveries.

    I don’t think I need to tell you about the vast links between California and the whole of East Asia, with China in particular. These are on both a personal level and vastly on an economic level.

    Compare the expert response to managing Coronavirus in India:

    https://qz.com/india/1802684/indias-kerala-defeated-deadly-coronavirus-using-information/

    To that which has occurred in your own, native Southern California:

    https://www.kpbs.org/news/2020/feb/11/cdc-mistakenly-clears-san-diego-patient-coronaviru/

    Or the evacuations by Uncle Sam’s best and brightest, which is less GI Joe these days and more Keystone Kops:

    https://qz.com/1807009/trumps-fury-over-coronavirus-patients-being-repatriated-may-be-justified/

    Perhaps you should worry about what’s happening in your own lands first? If you get sick and end up in Cedars Sinai hospital, will they palliate you with a “blunt” of medical marijuana? Or will you elect for the “hash brownie” instead?

  339. @Jack D
    The Hamas leadership has a number of good (from their POV) reasons for organizing the stone throwing - they are not as dumb as you think. Aside from eliciting sympathy from Western Useful Idiots, their fondest desire is to kidnap an Israeli soldier. An Israeli prisoner is like the Golden Ticket for them. The Israelis have a proven willingness to trade thousands of Palestinian terrorists for even 1 living Israeli soldier. Hamas has spent millions of scarce $ trying to dig tunnels so they can pop up out of the ground and kidnap a soldier. Tunnel detection technology has gotten better so their current plan B is to organize riots at the fence line and in the chaos of the riot, dash across the border and kidnap an Israeli. This is why the Israelis shoot anyone who tries to climb the fence. The Israelis announce this in advance so if you approach the fence you are asking for it. The Hamas leadership doesn't care - they have lots of expendable young men.

    Suppose they manage to kidnap enough Israeli soldiers to get all the Palestinian prisoners back, what then? No more rioting? Would they spend that aid money on useful things?

  340. @Malla

    Most young and middle aged cabbies in Anglo countries are Indian, Arab, or East African.
    Whites rarely take the job.
     
    Actually there are many Anglo countries or Western countries where White people drive cabs, I myself have been driven by White taxi drivers in small towns in the west. it is just that when foreigners appear, the proportion of White taxi drivers reduce for some reason.

    Too dirty, unclean, and difficult.
     
    Oh Please, Taxi driving is not as dirty or unclean as compared to say mining.

    https://www.australianmining.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/anglo_1-604x270.jpg

    https://steelguru.com/uploads/news/queensland-s_demand_for_skilled_bowen_basin_coal_workers_report_83068.jpg

    https://www.australianmining.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Mount-Isa-Mines_6.jpg

    Unless you as a cab driver are driving someone to the ghetto.

    Miner and taxi driver are about equally dangerous (and 1/3 of taxi driver deaths are due to violence, not auto accident). However mining pays around twice as well, which explains why whites are more attracted to it.

    21. Taxi drivers and chauffeurs
    • Fatal injuries in 2017: 10.5 per 100,000 workers
    • Total: 62 fatal injuries, 2,640 nonfatal injuries
    • Median annual wage: $24,880

    20. Mining machine operators
    • Fatal injuries in 2017: 11.7 per 100,000 workers
    • Total: 7 fatal injuries, 370 nonfatal injuries
    • Median annual wage: $53,200

    #1 most dangerous occupation is fisherman, #2 is logger and #3 is pilot.

  341. @YetAnotherAnon
    Thanks. I have a fair few female friends from college days who are (and now always will be) childless, including a couple who were real head-turners and are pretty good looking in their 50s. Not reproducing was an absolute crime against their genes.

    “Not reproducing was an absolute crime against their genes.”

    I understand the sentiment, but there is no need for hyperbole. I know of two couples who are above average in looks and IQ…but they are completely into themselves and lacked the inherent nurturing quality required to raise offspring.

  342. @Malla

    Most young and middle aged cabbies in Anglo countries are Indian, Arab, or East African.
    Whites rarely take the job.
     
    Actually there are many Anglo countries or Western countries where White people drive cabs, I myself have been driven by White taxi drivers in small towns in the west. it is just that when foreigners appear, the proportion of White taxi drivers reduce for some reason.

    Too dirty, unclean, and difficult.
     
    Oh Please, Taxi driving is not as dirty or unclean as compared to say mining.

    https://www.australianmining.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/anglo_1-604x270.jpg

    https://steelguru.com/uploads/news/queensland-s_demand_for_skilled_bowen_basin_coal_workers_report_83068.jpg

    https://www.australianmining.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Mount-Isa-Mines_6.jpg

    Unless you as a cab driver are driving someone to the ghetto.

    Hardly anyone works in mining in America. Not more than 50,000.

    Hispanic immigrants are recruited for a lot of the poorly paid and dirty work.

  343. @AaronB

    A bright white boy shouldn’t have to eschew baseball pr friendships or chasing girls or reading for pleasure because he’s losing ground to the kids of Indian immigrants who are cramming in some miserable zero sum cut throat competition.
     
    Sure, but if America sealed its borders so that we can adopt a more relaxed and leisurely lifestyle, we would become less competitive globally against other countries.

    So competition is gonna happen one way or another. Either between groups within America or between a white America and other countries.

    Now I for one think it's a perfectly legitimate choice to accept being less wealthy and less competitive in order to have a better quality of life, but let's be clear that we're making that choice.

    So the choice seems to be - whites as a group within America can accept a lower standard of living relative to other groups within America in exchange for a more relaxed lifestyle, or America as a white country can accept a lower standard of living relative to other countries in exchange for a more relaxed lifestyle.

    The growing white preference for a relaxed lifestyle, which has been growing since early last century, is at least partly why the elite want to import more ambitious workers.

    <'The growing white preference for a relaxed lifestyle, which has been growing since early last century, is at least partly why the elite want to import more ambitious workers.'

    I think the word you’re looking for is ‘docile,’ not ‘ambitious.’

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  344. @AaronB

    A bright white boy shouldn’t have to eschew baseball pr friendships or chasing girls or reading for pleasure because he’s losing ground to the kids of Indian immigrants who are cramming in some miserable zero sum cut throat competition.
     
    Sure, but if America sealed its borders so that we can adopt a more relaxed and leisurely lifestyle, we would become less competitive globally against other countries.

    So competition is gonna happen one way or another. Either between groups within America or between a white America and other countries.

    Now I for one think it's a perfectly legitimate choice to accept being less wealthy and less competitive in order to have a better quality of life, but let's be clear that we're making that choice.

    So the choice seems to be - whites as a group within America can accept a lower standard of living relative to other groups within America in exchange for a more relaxed lifestyle, or America as a white country can accept a lower standard of living relative to other countries in exchange for a more relaxed lifestyle.

    The growing white preference for a relaxed lifestyle, which has been growing since early last century, is at least partly why the elite want to import more ambitious workers.

    <'The growing white preference for a relaxed lifestyle, which has been growing since early last century, is at least partly why the elite want to import more ambitious workers.'

    I think the word you’re looking for is ‘docile,’ not ‘ambitious.’

    After all, when your parents hire a gentile to fix the toilet, do they look for a native, or a Mexican?

  345. @Just Passing Through
    The average standard of living in the UK would have been the same, but the British did indeed loot the world in cahoots with their Jewish merchant friends.

    Do you really think they were occupying all these countries for fun? That's like saying the US is occupying all these countries in the Middle East as part of the White Man's Burden to bring democracy and freedom™ to the savages.

    Empires are not the best way to make money in the long run. Empires become expensive very fast. Britain actually lost money on India. Even if there were Brits who looted the world with their Jewish pals, Africa & India are not poor because of European Empires and Europe is not rich because of those Empires.

  346. @Just Passing Through
    The average standard of living in the UK would have been the same, but the British did indeed loot the world in cahoots with their Jewish merchant friends.

    Do you really think they were occupying all these countries for fun? That's like saying the US is occupying all these countries in the Middle East as part of the White Man's Burden to bring democracy and freedom™ to the savages.

    Do you really think they were occupying all these countries for fun?

    A lot of the occupations, could have happened due to the fear of or to deny a rival power a strategic land. If you check out the British conquest of India, it was Franco-British rivalry & competition which led to the start of the Indian Empire. India was going French more than English during a certain period especially in Southern India. Had that been the case, Calcutta (Kolkata) and Madras (Chennai) would have been small towns know for their quint English architecture and Chandanagore and Pondicherry would have been the big metropolises. But since history went on the side of Brits, Pondichery is a Union Territory with quint French architecture, Chandanagore is just a town with French architecture while Calcutta and Madras are mega cities.
    Inter-European rivalry played a big part in the creation of those giant Empires. Later the Americans and Japanese joined in.

  347. @The Wild Geese Howard
    *sigh*

    The three Italians that passed away were 80, 84, and 88.

    One had already been hospitalized for a heart attack. Another had, "...other pathologies..."

    https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ansa.it%2Fcanale_saluteebenessere%2Fnotizie%2Fsanita%2F2020%2F02%2F24%2Fcoronavirus-_60aae600-8535-44d9-86de-48c4b71478ef.html

    My larger point is that, for different reasons, neither Chinese nor Anglo sources can be relied upon.

    You still sighing?

  348. Anonymous[106] • Disclaimer says:
    @Just Passing Through
    I don't know where you read this stuff, but the only 'White' people who invaded India were the British, and even that wasn't a proper invasion.

    The 'Aryans' who came into India looked more like light-skinned Iranians than 'White' (the latter of which conjured up images of Northern Europeans in most people's minds.

    There is not a single Indian that looks European, as they are Caucasians, they will have European facial features, but they will not be European looking.

    The Taj Mahal was built in 1653 by Persian architects, Persians allegedly gave an IQ of 84 which puts them a tad above Indians who are alleged to have an IQ of 82.

    The ancient 'Aryans' who migrated into India didn't look like the Aryans most White people imagine when they hear the term (blue-eyes and blond(e) hair)

    Whites have a long list of achievements, I don't get why some people have to start doing this 'We wuz Hindoos n shieet' gig.

    These people originated in southern Russia and Ukraine so it’s hard to imagine them being anything but white–unless they were recent immigrants from warmer climates, or the world climate was radically different back then.

    You’re probably correct that they weren’t blonde/blue-eyed, as that phenotype originated on the shores of the Baltic Sea, which is on the opposite side of Europe.

  349. Anonymous[106] • Disclaimer says:
    @donut
    When I lived in Louisiana in the 80's there was some resentment towards the Vietnamese immigrants because of the way they became more prosperous than the natives . They were more self-sufficient as you say but it was more than that . As I understood it at the time while the Americans were in hock to the bank for their homes and fishing boats , the Viets would band together and pool their money to purchase homes and fishing boats . So one person would take out a mortgage to buy a house and 20 people would move in and put all their money towards paying off the loan . They would pay off the loan quickly and move on to the next person . Also IIRC they would pool their money and cut out the bank altogether , they did the same with their fishing boats which was an industry they concentrated in . This was in the 80's and the oil patch was going through tough times . The word was that the Japanese at that time whose economy was doing well were buying up whole neighborhoods of foreclosures in Houston . Of course this was just what I observed and heard . I lived there at the time but worked on deep waterships and so wasn't dependent on the local economy . I remember thinking that instead of resenting the Vietnamese immigrants the locals should follow their example . I suppose if they had done that the financial industry would have quickly moved to have regulations passed into law to stop that practice for the protection of the public .

    So one person would take out a mortgage to buy a house and 20 people would move in and put all their money towards paying off the loan.

    A house with 20 people living in it is a hostel/hotel and there are a bunch of expensive safety, insurance and hygiene regulations that need to be met by the homeowner, with heavy fines or imprisonment for failure to comply.

    • Replies: @donut
    Do you really think the state of Louisiana gives a shit about those regulations ? I live outside Baltimore now . The apt. complex I have lived in for 20 years has gone from 99% white to less than half white . We've got American Negros and plenty of immigrants , all various shades of brown India , Africa and even some Koreans . The maintenance guy was complaining about about the Africans to me one time . He said there's six or seven adults in one apt. In the apt below mine for about a year there were 5 Indians who must have been here on a work visa of some sort . I could see into the apt. every time I went out . The only furniture they had that I could see was an ironing board and a lamp . Two of them slept on the floor in the living room and I guess the other three used the bedroom .
    I said the same thing you did , aren't there regulations that prohibit that sort of thing ? He said management (all Black BTW) doesn't give a shit as long as the apts. are occupied . When I first moved here I would come home in the morning and see about four White kids waiting at the bus stop . About ten years ago that began to change now there must be at least a dozen little brown scholars there .
    Rules and regulations , LOL .
  350. @The Wild Geese Howard

    The problem is, our controlled media do not speak about the racial aspects of any of these things.
     
    Our woke controlled media really are sick.

    Their refusal to even mention the possibility that certain ethnicities are more susceptible to Corona-chan is creating unnecessary fear that could lead to wider panic.

    But, what would one expect from such a collectively ignorant, immoral group of people?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B5XNM_wVnw

    I LOVE YOU CORONA-CHAN!

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    ノ◕ヮ◕ノ ・゚✧Cowona Viwus chan wuvs u ◕ω◕✿

  351. @Anonymous

    So one person would take out a mortgage to buy a house and 20 people would move in and put all their money towards paying off the loan.
     
    A house with 20 people living in it is a hostel/hotel and there are a bunch of expensive safety, insurance and hygiene regulations that need to be met by the homeowner, with heavy fines or imprisonment for failure to comply.

    Do you really think the state of Louisiana gives a shit about those regulations ? I live outside Baltimore now . The apt. complex I have lived in for 20 years has gone from 99% white to less than half white . We’ve got American Negros and plenty of immigrants , all various shades of brown India , Africa and even some Koreans . The maintenance guy was complaining about about the Africans to me one time . He said there’s six or seven adults in one apt. In the apt below mine for about a year there were 5 Indians who must have been here on a work visa of some sort . I could see into the apt. every time I went out . The only furniture they had that I could see was an ironing board and a lamp . Two of them slept on the floor in the living room and I guess the other three used the bedroom .
    I said the same thing you did , aren’t there regulations that prohibit that sort of thing ? He said management (all Black BTW) doesn’t give a shit as long as the apts. are occupied . When I first moved here I would come home in the morning and see about four White kids waiting at the bus stop . About ten years ago that began to change now there must be at least a dozen little brown scholars there .
    Rules and regulations , LOL .

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