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  1. Everything today’s press and politician priesthood declare or spin forms nothing more than extensive appendices to The Screwtape Letters.

  2. The only non-Islamic religious extremists I see here are the Leftists and their religious nuttery.

    ONe day, Leftism will be declared the cult that it is and its adherents locked away forever for the good of mankind.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    @whorefinder

    Leftism is a religious cult populated by the clinically insane (when sanity is defined as a relentless process of matching ones perceptions with reality.)

    Sadly, it is also heritable (as is schizophrenia and substance abuse.) The only ways to eradicate it are a eugenics program or simply letting nature cull it's carriers.

    The latter is assured sooner or later.

    , @Kylie
    @whorefinder

    "ONe day, Leftism will be declared the cult that it is and its adherents locked away forever for the good of mankind."

    In keeping with the Left's passion for with multiculturalism, I suggest they be locked away in a gulag of oubliettes located in the Sahara Desert.

  3. We are run by arseholes.

    • Replies: @fish
    @dearieme


    We are run by arseholes.
     
    Indeed......with more on the way!
  4. The phrase “I can’t even …” has been a running joke online for a while but I just experienced it. That NYT piece advising urbi et orbi to “Leave ‘Martyrdom’ to the Jihadists” immediately exhausted me, after I’d clicked on it but before I’d read any of the text in front of me. I couldn’t even set foot into its worn out and shabby assumptions or look at its predicable collection of scolding, lying and progressive posturing.

    The Obama, Merkel, Hollande and Justin Trudeau dream team have broken me. I can’t even enter into that NYT head space anymore. I just can’t. This is why Trump has to win: just so this goes away and is replaced by something else. A President Trump will be the end of this era and the start of something new. That really is good enough for me now.

    • Agree: 415 reasons, Percy Gryce
    • Replies: @matt
    @Cagey Beast

    Do you need a safe space?

    , @Tim
    @Cagey Beast

    "The phrase “I can’t even …” has been a running joke online for a while but I just experienced it. That NYT piece advising urbi et orbi to “Leave ‘Martyrdom’ to the Jihadists” immediately exhausted me, after I’d clicked on it but before I’d read any of the text in front of me. I couldn’t even set foot into its worn out and shabby assumptions or look at its predicable collection of scolding, lying and progressive posturing.

    The Obama, Merkel, Hollande and Justin Trudeau dream team have broken me. I can’t even enter into that NYT head space anymore. I just can’t. This is why Trump has to win: just so this goes away and is replaced by something else. A President Trump will be the end of this era and the start of something new. That really is good enough for me now."

    Very well-written.

    , @Olorin
    @Cagey Beast


    That NYT piece advising urbi et orbi to “Leave ‘Martyrdom’ to the Jihadists” immediately exhausted me, after I’d clicked on it but before I’d read any of the text in front of me. I couldn’t even set foot into its worn out and shabby assumptions or look at its predicable collection of scolding, lying and progressive posturing.
     
    Look on the bright side.

    You made sure the NYT got some money from its advertisers by clicking on it.

    Plus you wore yourself out, draining energy off from other things.

    A win-win for the Grey Lady's pimps.
    , @Cryptogenic
    @Cagey Beast

    As the Symbolists would say: "Anything but this, anywhere but here."

    , @Ragno
    @Cagey Beast

    Everything you just said, CB. To the power of 10.

    , @anonguy
    @Cagey Beast

    This sentiment is exactly what is shared by enough people so that Trump will be winning in a paradigm-shifting landslide in the general.

    I've been saying it since forever, albeit only the past several months on iSteve...

  5. Steve: Thanks so much for the link to the NYT OP-Ed by Professor Vallely.

    Tertullian wrote: “The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church” (Apologeticus, Chapter 50). If the martyrdom (that’s what it is) of a humble parish priest at the altar of his church during Mass does not wake the French up to the nature of the evil that they have foolishly allowed within their gates, then it seems safe to assume nothing will.

    We shall see whether Father Hamel’s spiritual seeds will be able to inseminate the extremely ill, even moribund, Church in France and Europe, or whether they shall “fall among thorns”, which shall spring up and choke them. Has Europe now become barren ground, which even the blood of martyrs cannot “refresh”?

    The French “philosophes” have been paving the paradise that was France and putting up a parking lot since they started their decapitation fad in 1789. Let’s pray for a miracle: That this seed shall fall into a crack in the asphalt that is now our spiritually very poor France.

    • Replies: @riches
    @Eustace Tilley (not)

    A previous comment mentioned the tired phrase "I can't even ..." but I'd like to evoke "Wow, just ..." after reading Tilley's comment.

    It shamed me that I hadn't already learned Father Jacques Hamel's name. (And nice Joni Mitchell quote too.)

    , @pyrrhus
    @Eustace Tilley (not)

    Very nicely done...

    , @Percy Gryce
    @Eustace Tilley (not)

    And may the Judases like Professor Vallely share their prototype's fate.

  6. To that first clip, I look at it like I look at political advertising … it’s not so much about persuading people one way or another as it is about funneling more and more money into the pockets of your friends and supporters in the media.

    To the second, there are no limits to the depth of depravity among so-called thought leaders in the West.

    As Derb is fond of saying, we are doomed!

  7. Regarding that Vallely oped cautioning against sainthood for the martyred priest.
    He needn’t worry. The Communist anti-pope would sooner canonize the jihadist who beheaded Fr Hamel.
    Vallely’s argument boils down to fear that it might offend jihadis.
    This is cowardice at a depth that’s difficult to fathom.

    Unsaid is the fear that it might wake up the clueless to the fact that this is a war between civilization and barbarism. The actual danger that Islam poses to the West is nothing compared to the harm done by its apologists among us.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @jesse helms think-alike

    "Regarding that Vallely oped cautioning against sainthood for the martyred priest.
    He needn’t worry. The Communist anti-pope would sooner canonize the jihadist who beheaded Fr Hamel.
    Vallely’s argument boils down to fear that it might offend jihadis."

    I was hoping the anti-pope would declare the old guy a martyr entitled to enjoy one 72 year old virgin in Paradise. That would build a bridge of commonality with Muslims while acknowledging their superiority in a submissive fashion.

    , @Percy Gryce
    @jesse helms think-alike


    This is cowardice at a depth that’s difficult to fathom.
     
    Indeed. It's surrender--it's saying that we Catholics will not practice our faith--which he admits we would otherwise have every right to do--for fear of offending or provoking the Saracens. He has accepted the inferior status that the Muslim impose. He is in fact calling for the acceptance of dhimmitude.
  8. If we call Fr. Hamel a martyr, than the terrorists will have won.

  9. If (white) people were more tolerant than crap like this wouldn’t happen.

    You weirdos have no idea how People of Color (the majority of the world) see you

    http://verysmartbrothas.com/vsb-dnc-day-four-open-thread/

    • Replies: @eah
    @Tiny Duck

    @Tiny Dick

    were more tolerant than crap

    Please explain how tolerant crap is.

    , @anon
    @Tiny Duck

    From that "verysmartbrothas" link:

    "It’s the last day of the 2016 Democratic National Convention and Hillary Clinton is slated to accept the party’s nomination as the first woman to receive the Democratic nod for President of The United States. Chelsea will also be speaking.
    And you can to."

    She's slated to accept the nomination as the first woman to receive the nomination.

    I can to what?

    Replies: @5371

    , @Marty
    @Tiny Duck

    I know how they see me - as someone who's not dangerous. That's why they (and domestic blacks) don't respect me.

    , @Stealth
    @Tiny Duck

    I don't know. Poc's (the ones who harbor ill will, anyway) are pretty open about their feeling s toward white people. You hear it from them all the time. We know.

    , @zippo
    @Tiny Duck

    @tiny dIck:
    i coule give a hoot what 'people of color' think of me. I know what i think of them, that suffices

    , @Brutusale
    @Tiny Duck

    Reading "Very Smart Brothers" would be akin to watching very fast Mexicans sprint. The soft bigotry of low expectations.

  10. As a Catholic, it’s offensive to call Father Hamel’s murder anything but martyrdom.It’s past time to call Islam out on it’s barbarity. Everything offends the 7th century death cult of inbreds. Appealing to their emotion or logic is like teaching a pig to sing either way.

    • Agree: Cryptogenic
    • Replies: @PistolPete
    @Bugg

    As a Catholic I havent been to mass in way too long. After this I will be sure to go this Sunday. The west needs to wake up. Sadly, I'm not to hopeful it will.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

  11. This is what you get when the country is run by English majors who went to law school. They also have a plan to discredit Putin through a focused program of irony.

  12. The second headline screams, ” I Know Nothing of History, nor Etymology!”

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Je Suis Charlie Martel

    What are you saying, about etymology?

  13. Nowadays, the Onion fares poorly in comparison to the real headlines in the NYT.

    • Replies: @countenance
    @Jack D

    A parody story I wrote about seven years ago, bouncing off the famous "Drugs Win Drug War" Onion headline.

    ***

    Terror Wins War on Terror

    TERRORABAD, Terroristan (FNN) — Leaders from twenty-five allied countries, lead by the United States, signed an agreement of surrender today, effectively signaling the victory of Terror in the War on Terror.

    The agreement, signed on the aircraft carrier TSS Ramsi Yousef, means that all surrendering countries must agree to Terroristani-sponsored weapons inspections, and therefore must remove any WMDs they possess. Signatories agreed to convert their countries’ respective legal codes to Shari’a with all due haste. All women must be in hijabs or burquas by Ramadan, surrendering countries also agreeing to adopt the Islamic luni-solar calendar.

    Among other terms of surrender are that the military leaders of the twenty-five countries facing war crimes trials in Terrorabad, and those countries giving enough bronze and artisans to the government of Terroristan so that they construct a 50-foot statue of former U.S. Assistant Attorney General Jamie Gorelick in the center of Terrorabad Town Square.

  14. Missed a chance to comment on DNC Wednesday, so taking it here. There were two comments made by commentators about Michael Bloomberg’s speech. One: someone mentioned that Trump is not respected amongst billionaires, the way Bloomberg is. Two: another person mentioned that Trump would be a danger or threat to people’s retirement savings.

    It is striking how clueless people can be. That Trump is not revered by billionaires is a feature, not a bug. Secondly, when Democrats are saying that Trump is a threat to people’s retirement savings, they may in fact be right. However, it shows absolute cluelessness about the state of retirement savings in America. The median amount saved for retirement is $5000. Half the people in America essentially have no retirement savings. So appeals to the people with the retirement money that needs to be protected are the appeals to people who are also impressed by the opinion of billionaires.

    Trump voters don’t have retirement savings. Their only asset perhaps is a house in a neighborhood rapidly declining. The upper-middle-class appealing Democratic pundits literally still cannot see the people who back Trump, and probably have no idea where his support arises.

  15. @Jack D
    Nowadays, the Onion fares poorly in comparison to the real headlines in the NYT.

    Replies: @countenance

    A parody story I wrote about seven years ago, bouncing off the famous “Drugs Win Drug War” Onion headline.

    ***

    Terror Wins War on Terror

    TERRORABAD, Terroristan (FNN) — Leaders from twenty-five allied countries, lead by the United States, signed an agreement of surrender today, effectively signaling the victory of Terror in the War on Terror.

    The agreement, signed on the aircraft carrier TSS Ramsi Yousef, means that all surrendering countries must agree to Terroristani-sponsored weapons inspections, and therefore must remove any WMDs they possess. Signatories agreed to convert their countries’ respective legal codes to Shari’a with all due haste. All women must be in hijabs or burquas by Ramadan, surrendering countries also agreeing to adopt the Islamic luni-solar calendar.

    Among other terms of surrender are that the military leaders of the twenty-five countries facing war crimes trials in Terrorabad, and those countries giving enough bronze and artisans to the government of Terroristan so that they construct a 50-foot statue of former U.S. Assistant Attorney General Jamie Gorelick in the center of Terrorabad Town Square.

  16. Appealing to emotion rather than logic was The Scott Adams prescription IIRC. He seems to beleive he changed the Clintons campaigns philosophy on that as well.

    • Agree: MEH 0910
    • Replies: @Olorin
    @Paulestinian

    DNC is playing with fire here by admitting terrorists aren't logical, but emotional.

    If terrorists are more emotional than logical, that means they operate more from a feminine framing than a masculine one.

    Equating terrorists with feminine emotion seems like a wiggy message to put out when we're all supposed to line up to vote for the first grrl POTUS.

    I'm imagining a remake of Dr. Strangelove with an all-girl war room. Can't decide whether to make it a Broadway musical or a Greek tragedy.

    Replies: @Kylie

    , @Perplexed
    @Paulestinian

    He thought the Clinton campaign had brought in a master bamboozler to counter Trump. Adams didn't name him, but the only one I could think of was motivational pitchman Tony Robbins.

    Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

  17. From the second article:

    said a Parisian churchgoer. “It’s not a Muslim who killed a Catholic…”

    People refuse to see reality.

    Also, the NYT had to explain what “altar” and “sanctuary” mean…

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    @Chrisnonymous

    They too are believers once they see which way the wind is blowing.

    , @Perplexed
    @Chrisnonymous

    Yesterday's news: There's a mosque next to the church, built on land the church gave to the muzzies, Today's news: The Turks warned French intelligence about the perps on June 29.

  18. Slightly OT, but I just spent 20 minutes reading 15 different articles on the off-duty Swedish policewoman in a bikini who took down a thief. 20 minutes of my time completely wasted reading through articles with dozens of pictures a hot Swedish woman wearing tight clothing – and sometimes barely wearing anything at all – so I could find out the name of the thief, who is unnamed in any of the articles but whose hair (pretty much the only thing visible in the one picture of the arrest they posted) makes him look like he’s almost certainly a “vibrant” minority of Middle Eastern descent. The sacrifices I make for this website…

    It must suck for the media to have such an awesome story but still have to censor half of it in order to maintain the narrative.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Wilkey

    The M.O. (sticking out a piece of cardboard to hide what you are doing underneath, which is reaching into someone's bag) is a gypsy (oh, sorry, Roma) technique. I saw gypsy children doing this in Rome many years ago. A Muslim would just mug you.

    Replies: @Johan Schmidt

    , @antipater_1
    @Wilkey

    "dozens of pictures a hot Swedish woman wearing tight clothing – and sometimes barely wearing anything at all"

    I don't know Wilkey, I googled it and she doesn't look very "hot" to me. Sort of a plain Jane is more like it.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce, @The Alarmist

  19. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    @The most deplorable one

    Drudge points to this, as well:

    http://ntknetwork.com/bill-clinton-falls-asleep-during-hillary-clintons-convention-speech/

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    , @fish
    @The most deplorable one

    To his credit he did his bit the night before....

    Replies: @The most deplorable one

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @The most deplorable one

    A question Hillary must be pondering is, "How much would it boost my chances if Bill tragically had a stroke or maybe ate some poison mushrooms before the election? And what would be the optimal timing--the day before the election, a week, maybe a month so we could have a state funeral and Donald Trump would have to stop saying mean things about me?"

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque, @iSteveFan, @kihowi, @Jack D, @Big Bill, @dearieme

  20. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    From the second article:

    said a Parisian churchgoer. “It’s not a Muslim who killed a Catholic..."
     
    People refuse to see reality.

    Also, the NYT had to explain what "altar" and "sanctuary" mean...

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Perplexed

    They too are believers once they see which way the wind is blowing.

  21. @Tiny Duck
    If (white) people were more tolerant than crap like this wouldn't happen.

    You weirdos have no idea how People of Color (the majority of the world) see you

    http://verysmartbrothas.com/vsb-dnc-day-four-open-thread/

    Replies: @eah, @anon, @Marty, @Stealth, @zippo, @Brutusale

    @Tiny Dick

    were more tolerant than crap

    Please explain how tolerant crap is.

  22. OT but since the opener was “Trrism” and the democratic nominee has some experience in this area I thought I’d drop it here…..

    Anybody notice how Drudge always manages to get those photos of the Hillbot 5000 looking like a contestant on “Retarded Queen for a Day”?

    • Replies: @Bugg
    @fish

    Looks like she is about to unhinge her jaw and swallow someone who has displeased Herself whole.

    Replies: @fish

    , @antipater_1
    @fish

    Has anyone looked at the Hildabeast "tongue" photograph from yesterday? Mike Cernovich has played this up hard and it sure does look like something is wrong with her. Could it be just a photo-shoped fake?
    I am not qualified to say.

  23. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @The most deplorable one
    Bill Clinton was not impressed:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/video-bill-clinton-falls-asleep-hillarys-dnc-speech/

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @fish, @Harry Baldwin

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @The most deplorable one

    He is heavily made up and seems to have a wasting illness. The only people I know who look like that had defective heart valves which eventually killed them.

    BTW, Queen Hill has a terrible speaking voice, and Kaine looks like a servile goober.

    Masculinized, menopausal white woman and a pudgy white beta male. Don't really see black America getting too enthused over them.

  24. @The most deplorable one
    Bill Clinton was not impressed:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/video-bill-clinton-falls-asleep-hillarys-dnc-speech/

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @fish, @Harry Baldwin

    To his credit he did his bit the night before….

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    @fish

    Implications are hard, Barbie.

    Replies: @fish

  25. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Tiny Duck
    If (white) people were more tolerant than crap like this wouldn't happen.

    You weirdos have no idea how People of Color (the majority of the world) see you

    http://verysmartbrothas.com/vsb-dnc-day-four-open-thread/

    Replies: @eah, @anon, @Marty, @Stealth, @zippo, @Brutusale

    From that “verysmartbrothas” link:

    “It’s the last day of the 2016 Democratic National Convention and Hillary Clinton is slated to accept the party’s nomination as the first woman to receive the Democratic nod for President of The United States. Chelsea will also be speaking.
    And you can to.”

    She’s slated to accept the nomination as the first woman to receive the nomination.

    I can to what?

    • Replies: @5371
    @anon

    If those are smart brothas, I'd hate to see the dumb ones.

    Replies: @Olorin

  26. @Wilkey
    Slightly OT, but I just spent 20 minutes reading 15 different articles on the off-duty Swedish policewoman in a bikini who took down a thief. 20 minutes of my time completely wasted reading through articles with dozens of pictures a hot Swedish woman wearing tight clothing - and sometimes barely wearing anything at all - so I could find out the name of the thief, who is unnamed in any of the articles but whose hair (pretty much the only thing visible in the one picture of the arrest they posted) makes him look like he's almost certainly a "vibrant" minority of Middle Eastern descent. The sacrifices I make for this website...

    It must suck for the media to have such an awesome story but still have to censor half of it in order to maintain the narrative.

    Replies: @Jack D, @antipater_1

    The M.O. (sticking out a piece of cardboard to hide what you are doing underneath, which is reaching into someone’s bag) is a gypsy (oh, sorry, Roma) technique. I saw gypsy children doing this in Rome many years ago. A Muslim would just mug you.

    • Replies: @Johan Schmidt
    @Jack D

    Another favoured technique is waiting until you select the amount of money you want from the ATM then shoving "free newspapers" in your face as the money leaves the slot for the kids to grab. Back in the halcyon days of 2006 at my university orientation the users of this technique were actually described as "gypsies". Use that word nowadays and you'd be facing a struggle session.

    An even less subtle technique: literally throwing a baby at a woman's face so she would drop her bag to catch the little tyke.

  27. @dearieme
    We are run by arseholes.

    Replies: @fish

    We are run by arseholes.

    Indeed……with more on the way!

  28. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @fish
    @The most deplorable one

    To his credit he did his bit the night before....

    Replies: @The most deplorable one

    Implications are hard, Barbie.

    • Replies: @fish
    @The most deplorable one

    I'm just saying that he's probably heard the acceptance speech a hundred times already.....I've never heard it and couldn't stay awake.

  29. @anon
    @Tiny Duck

    From that "verysmartbrothas" link:

    "It’s the last day of the 2016 Democratic National Convention and Hillary Clinton is slated to accept the party’s nomination as the first woman to receive the Democratic nod for President of The United States. Chelsea will also be speaking.
    And you can to."

    She's slated to accept the nomination as the first woman to receive the nomination.

    I can to what?

    Replies: @5371

    If those are smart brothas, I’d hate to see the dumb ones.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    @5371

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2PSa3AzxskQ/T6ww3aqpaWI/AAAAAAAAJQU/E32VFSHOamU/s1600/group-differences.jpg

  30. @fish
    OT but since the opener was "Trrism" and the democratic nominee has some experience in this area I thought I'd drop it here.....


    Anybody notice how Drudge always manages to get those photos of the Hillbot 5000 looking like a contestant on "Retarded Queen for a Day"?

    http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Hillary+Clinton+Democratic+National+Convention+HGiQQJwiE_jl.jpg

    Replies: @Bugg, @antipater_1

    Looks like she is about to unhinge her jaw and swallow someone who has displeased Herself whole.

    • Replies: @fish
    @Bugg

    She looks too happy for that.

    A snake retains its "purposeful" look when it feeds......Hillbot looks like she's climbing on the Teacup ride at Disneyland for the very first time in her life at 70!

  31. The first article shows an ad designed to appeal the feminist nature of young Muslim men “DAESH silence her voice.” I can’t read the whole thing due to exceeding July limit of free articles. Do the comments notice thise young men don’t care about her voice?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Thea

    Not sure if it works on the NYT but on a lot of sites you can get past the article count limitation by opening an anonymous/incognito browser window.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

    , @res
    @Thea


    I can’t read the whole thing due to exceeding July limit of free articles.
     
    Either search for the headline on Google and access the article through the search results or (if using chrome) open the link in an incognito window.
  32. @The most deplorable one
    Bill Clinton was not impressed:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/video-bill-clinton-falls-asleep-hillarys-dnc-speech/

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @fish, @Harry Baldwin

    A question Hillary must be pondering is, “How much would it boost my chances if Bill tragically had a stroke or maybe ate some poison mushrooms before the election? And what would be the optimal timing–the day before the election, a week, maybe a month so we could have a state funeral and Donald Trump would have to stop saying mean things about me?”

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    @Harry Baldwin

    Indeed, but would it stop Wikileaks from releasing the remaining emails?

    It seems to have become personal with Assange. Of course, I can understand that ...

    , @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque
    @Harry Baldwin

    Were Billy Jeff to die, how would the average person be able to tell which of them was dead?

    , @iSteveFan
    @Harry Baldwin

    I live in Missouri. In 2000 governor Mel Carnahan was running against incumbent John Ashcroft for the US Senate. A couple of weeks before the election Carnahan died in a plane crash. Because it was too late to change the ballots the democrats ran a campaign 'I'm still with Mel' . They and the new democrat governor promised to put Carnahan's wife into the vacant Senate seat should he win. Sure enough he was elected posthumously. I even know an acquaintance, who is not political at all, who told me he voted for Mel because he felt sorry for the family and wanted his wife to cheer up.

    So if Bill kicked the bucket, Hillary would probably clean up with a lot of low-information, undecided voters.

    , @kihowi
    @Harry Baldwin

    I've been predicting for a while that she is going to cry again.

    , @Jack D
    @Harry Baldwin

    If Hillary wants anyone dead it is Trump not Bill. Bill and she are co-dependents. They fight with each other like cats and dogs but when the cop shows up they both yell at him to get the hell out of their house.

    If Trump continues to do well, I am seriously no joking very concerned for his safety. At the very least, Hillary and her enablers will lather 1/2 the country into a frenzy - this man is Hitler and he must be stopped. Will NO ONE come forward to stop this mad man and save humanity (hint hint)? At worst, they will make the proper arrangements themselves - tragic plane crash, etc.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Barnard

    , @Big Bill
    @Harry Baldwin

    I didn't know you could elect a dead guy. Why don't they run FDR, Harry Truman, or Bill Clinton (for anything) and let the Governor pick who he wants? Name recognition would be great.

    , @dearieme
    @Harry Baldwin

    Oi, you leave my jokes alone!!!

    More seriously, if this simple idea could occur to both thee and me, I think we can be certain that it has occurred to the she-wolf. But wouldn't she organise the assassination of Trump instead? Dunno.

    What if her health visibly breaks down before the election: does her VP candidate automatically become the Democrat presidential candidate? How skilled is he at the poisoned mushroom stratagem?

  33. Patrick Harris says:

    OT from CNN: “US Navy intends to name ship after Harvey Milk.”

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/29/politics/us-navy-intends-to-name-ship-after-harvey-milk/index.html?sr=fbcnni072916us-navy-intends-to-name-ship-after-harvey-milk1247PMStoryLink&linkId=27072854

    Who wants to serve on that vessel? Those poor sailors better have some thick skin (“the ship that goes down at the first opportunity,” etc.)

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Patrick Harris


    OT from CNN: “US Navy intends to name ship after Harvey Milk.”
     
    I don't have a military background, so someone more plugged in will have to comment.

    But my impression is the US military really seems to have "flipped" in the last ten or so. Going from just bureaucratic and trying to make the best of whatever nonsense--women, gays--the politicians were foisting on it, to really becoming aggressively PC and just shitting on normals, and those who express typical normal thoughts.

    And PC backed by an authoritarian culture, seems like it would make a pretty unpleasant environment. Sort of the Maoist "Cultural Revolution" thing--which is literally what it is a cultural revolution.

    ~~~
    BTW, I will say the ship naming thing has headed down hill long ago. When I was a kid the aircraft carriers had names like Yorktown, Intrepid, Midway, Coral Sea, Ranger, Independence, Kitty Hawk, Enterprise. Roosevelt and Kennedy were in their somewhere. Then with Nimitz--a fine tribute to the man from Fredericksburg things began to go downhill and we got carriers names for congressional hacks like Carl Vinson and John Stennis. Then Reagan got one--you didn't even have to be dead anymore. Then it was like ok everyone gets one, Bush, Ford. They haven't given Clinton one, perhaps because they think for him it should be a submarine.

    I realize Milk won't be getting an aircraft carrier he's apparently getting an oiler, which seems vaguely appropriate. Still ... no shame.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce, @Brutusale

  34. @Jack D
    @Wilkey

    The M.O. (sticking out a piece of cardboard to hide what you are doing underneath, which is reaching into someone's bag) is a gypsy (oh, sorry, Roma) technique. I saw gypsy children doing this in Rome many years ago. A Muslim would just mug you.

    Replies: @Johan Schmidt

    Another favoured technique is waiting until you select the amount of money you want from the ATM then shoving “free newspapers” in your face as the money leaves the slot for the kids to grab. Back in the halcyon days of 2006 at my university orientation the users of this technique were actually described as “gypsies”. Use that word nowadays and you’d be facing a struggle session.

    An even less subtle technique: literally throwing a baby at a woman’s face so she would drop her bag to catch the little tyke.

  35. @Bugg
    @fish

    Looks like she is about to unhinge her jaw and swallow someone who has displeased Herself whole.

    Replies: @fish

    She looks too happy for that.

    A snake retains its “purposeful” look when it feeds……Hillbot looks like she’s climbing on the Teacup ride at Disneyland for the very first time in her life at 70!

  36. @The most deplorable one
    @fish

    Implications are hard, Barbie.

    Replies: @fish

    I’m just saying that he’s probably heard the acceptance speech a hundred times already…..I’ve never heard it and couldn’t stay awake.

  37. All I can hear is Go West, “I’m the King of Wishful Thinking”

    Any good parody lyricists out there … ?

  38. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    @The most deplorable one

    A question Hillary must be pondering is, "How much would it boost my chances if Bill tragically had a stroke or maybe ate some poison mushrooms before the election? And what would be the optimal timing--the day before the election, a week, maybe a month so we could have a state funeral and Donald Trump would have to stop saying mean things about me?"

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque, @iSteveFan, @kihowi, @Jack D, @Big Bill, @dearieme

    Indeed, but would it stop Wikileaks from releasing the remaining emails?

    It seems to have become personal with Assange. Of course, I can understand that …

  39. the leftists media made Michael Brown a Martyr, along with Trayvon Martin, yet will not allow the Catholics to add this priest to the long list of martyrs who were slaughtered by Islamists.

    The left knows that making martyrs out of criminals has inflamed racial tensions, resulting in the killing of police officers, violent protests, looting etc..But they must realize that this is not going to occur among Catholics, the Pope is welcoming the Islamists. Making the priest a martyr will not be the start of a Catholic Lives Matter movement.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Travis

    "Making the priest a martyr will not be the start of a Catholic Lives Matter movement."

    It should be, but you're probably right, it probably won't be.

  40. iSteveFan says:

    From Paul Vallely’s op-ed:

    We must strengthen our defenses against terrorism but we must resist the notion that a fundamental clash of civilizations is the issue.

    In other words we must build up the police-surveillance state and forgo the freedoms and lifestyles of yesteryear. Because limiting our nations to ourselves is definitely off the table.

  41. I was pleased to see the MSM denounce foreign interference so vigorously.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/30/us/politics/unnerved-by-donald-trump-european-diplomats-seek-reassurance-from-democrats.html?_r=0

    “Federica Mogherini, an Italian diplomat who serves as the European Union’s top foreign policy official, spends most of her time shuttling among Whitehall, the Quai d’Orsay and other elegant bastions of Europe’s foreign policy establishment.

    But this week, she was in Philadelphia, soldiering through the heat, the traffic and the peculiar rituals of an American political convention. She was one of an unusually large contingent of European officials who came here to watch Hillary Clinton claim the Democratic nomination for president.

    There was an undercurrent of quiet desperation in these visitors. They worried that Donald J. Trump could be elected president and follow through on his threats to end American support for NATO, seek closer ties to President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and rewrite trade deals. Many were craving reassurance that Mrs. Clinton’s campaign was on track.

    “Of course we are worried, especially those people from NATO countries,” said Peter Wittig, the German ambassador to Washington. “The Americans are the ones who elect their president, but the whole alliance is watching this. We have a lot of skin in the game.”

    Like many envoys, Mr. Wittig spent a day with the Republicans in Cleveland and a day in Philadelphia. He was studiously diplomatic about Mr. Trump — calling him a “newcomer and an outsider” — but he said Europeans would be comfortable with Mrs. Clinton because she was a known quantity.

    “She has a record of holding up the alliance,” Mr. Wittig said.”

    • Replies: @avraham
    @Anonymous Nephew

    Trump does not see much advantage in provoking WWIII with the Russians. I think that is a good thing. Of course, NATO would be out of work. But they have not had anything useful to do anyway for 25 years

    , @Jack D
    @Anonymous Nephew

    How long before Larry Tribe accuses Hillary of treason? I'll take "when hell freezes over" for $100.

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous Nephew

    german wimps and traitors like wittig sure have 'skin in the game'! Trump would mop the floor with that merkel and her eunuchs. And ending nato would force germans to depussy and rearm. That alone would turn the political landscape on its ear.

  42. @Harry Baldwin
    @The most deplorable one

    A question Hillary must be pondering is, "How much would it boost my chances if Bill tragically had a stroke or maybe ate some poison mushrooms before the election? And what would be the optimal timing--the day before the election, a week, maybe a month so we could have a state funeral and Donald Trump would have to stop saying mean things about me?"

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque, @iSteveFan, @kihowi, @Jack D, @Big Bill, @dearieme

    Were Billy Jeff to die, how would the average person be able to tell which of them was dead?

  43. My advice for the French: Throne and Altar.[ Not that I am so happy with the Catholics nowadays. But anything that brings to the Law of Moses is good as far as I am concerned.] The mob Republic rule thing [based on Rousseau] has gotten too out of hand. Even a change to John Locke’s kind of democracy would not help. Better Throne and Altar, straight and simple.

  44. @Cagey Beast
    The phrase "I can't even ..." has been a running joke online for a while but I just experienced it. That NYT piece advising urbi et orbi to "Leave ‘Martyrdom’ to the Jihadists" immediately exhausted me, after I'd clicked on it but before I'd read any of the text in front of me. I couldn’t even set foot into its worn out and shabby assumptions or look at its predicable collection of scolding, lying and progressive posturing.

    The Obama, Merkel, Hollande and Justin Trudeau dream team have broken me. I can't even enter into that NYT head space anymore. I just can't. This is why Trump has to win: just so this goes away and is replaced by something else. A President Trump will be the end of this era and the start of something new. That really is good enough for me now.

    Replies: @matt, @Tim, @Olorin, @Cryptogenic, @Ragno, @anonguy

    Do you need a safe space?

  45. Tim says:
    @Cagey Beast
    The phrase "I can't even ..." has been a running joke online for a while but I just experienced it. That NYT piece advising urbi et orbi to "Leave ‘Martyrdom’ to the Jihadists" immediately exhausted me, after I'd clicked on it but before I'd read any of the text in front of me. I couldn’t even set foot into its worn out and shabby assumptions or look at its predicable collection of scolding, lying and progressive posturing.

    The Obama, Merkel, Hollande and Justin Trudeau dream team have broken me. I can't even enter into that NYT head space anymore. I just can't. This is why Trump has to win: just so this goes away and is replaced by something else. A President Trump will be the end of this era and the start of something new. That really is good enough for me now.

    Replies: @matt, @Tim, @Olorin, @Cryptogenic, @Ragno, @anonguy

    “The phrase “I can’t even …” has been a running joke online for a while but I just experienced it. That NYT piece advising urbi et orbi to “Leave ‘Martyrdom’ to the Jihadists” immediately exhausted me, after I’d clicked on it but before I’d read any of the text in front of me. I couldn’t even set foot into its worn out and shabby assumptions or look at its predicable collection of scolding, lying and progressive posturing.

    The Obama, Merkel, Hollande and Justin Trudeau dream team have broken me. I can’t even enter into that NYT head space anymore. I just can’t. This is why Trump has to win: just so this goes away and is replaced by something else. A President Trump will be the end of this era and the start of something new. That really is good enough for me now.”

    Very well-written.

  46. iSteveFan says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    @The most deplorable one

    A question Hillary must be pondering is, "How much would it boost my chances if Bill tragically had a stroke or maybe ate some poison mushrooms before the election? And what would be the optimal timing--the day before the election, a week, maybe a month so we could have a state funeral and Donald Trump would have to stop saying mean things about me?"

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque, @iSteveFan, @kihowi, @Jack D, @Big Bill, @dearieme

    I live in Missouri. In 2000 governor Mel Carnahan was running against incumbent John Ashcroft for the US Senate. A couple of weeks before the election Carnahan died in a plane crash. Because it was too late to change the ballots the democrats ran a campaign ‘I’m still with Mel’ . They and the new democrat governor promised to put Carnahan’s wife into the vacant Senate seat should he win. Sure enough he was elected posthumously. I even know an acquaintance, who is not political at all, who told me he voted for Mel because he felt sorry for the family and wanted his wife to cheer up.

    So if Bill kicked the bucket, Hillary would probably clean up with a lot of low-information, undecided voters.

  47. @Harry Baldwin
    @The most deplorable one

    A question Hillary must be pondering is, "How much would it boost my chances if Bill tragically had a stroke or maybe ate some poison mushrooms before the election? And what would be the optimal timing--the day before the election, a week, maybe a month so we could have a state funeral and Donald Trump would have to stop saying mean things about me?"

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque, @iSteveFan, @kihowi, @Jack D, @Big Bill, @dearieme

    I’ve been predicting for a while that she is going to cry again.

  48. Abe says: • Website

    Wait, wasn’t the new, brilliant strategy to defeat ISIS with comedy?

    KERRY: Mr. President, the missiles have already launched, and MIRVs (mildly irreverent and risible vaudevillians) tipped with Chris Rock and Amy Schumer will be hitting Raqqa in less than 5 minutes.

    OBAMA: Call the Israelis. See if their Patriot missiles can still intercept. And prepare to launch the ICBMs tipped with Garrison Keiller and Ken Burns for a follow-up strike ASAP.

    • Replies: @Jean Cocteausten
    @Abe

    Keillor and Burns weapons are prohibited by the Geneva Convention, or should be.

  49. @Cagey Beast
    The phrase "I can't even ..." has been a running joke online for a while but I just experienced it. That NYT piece advising urbi et orbi to "Leave ‘Martyrdom’ to the Jihadists" immediately exhausted me, after I'd clicked on it but before I'd read any of the text in front of me. I couldn’t even set foot into its worn out and shabby assumptions or look at its predicable collection of scolding, lying and progressive posturing.

    The Obama, Merkel, Hollande and Justin Trudeau dream team have broken me. I can't even enter into that NYT head space anymore. I just can't. This is why Trump has to win: just so this goes away and is replaced by something else. A President Trump will be the end of this era and the start of something new. That really is good enough for me now.

    Replies: @matt, @Tim, @Olorin, @Cryptogenic, @Ragno, @anonguy

    That NYT piece advising urbi et orbi to “Leave ‘Martyrdom’ to the Jihadists” immediately exhausted me, after I’d clicked on it but before I’d read any of the text in front of me. I couldn’t even set foot into its worn out and shabby assumptions or look at its predicable collection of scolding, lying and progressive posturing.

    Look on the bright side.

    You made sure the NYT got some money from its advertisers by clicking on it.

    Plus you wore yourself out, draining energy off from other things.

    A win-win for the Grey Lady’s pimps.

  50. @5371
    @anon

    If those are smart brothas, I'd hate to see the dumb ones.

    Replies: @Olorin

  51. @Anonymous Nephew
    I was pleased to see the MSM denounce foreign interference so vigorously.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/30/us/politics/unnerved-by-donald-trump-european-diplomats-seek-reassurance-from-democrats.html?_r=0


    "Federica Mogherini, an Italian diplomat who serves as the European Union’s top foreign policy official, spends most of her time shuttling among Whitehall, the Quai d’Orsay and other elegant bastions of Europe’s foreign policy establishment.

    But this week, she was in Philadelphia, soldiering through the heat, the traffic and the peculiar rituals of an American political convention. She was one of an unusually large contingent of European officials who came here to watch Hillary Clinton claim the Democratic nomination for president.

    There was an undercurrent of quiet desperation in these visitors. They worried that Donald J. Trump could be elected president and follow through on his threats to end American support for NATO, seek closer ties to President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and rewrite trade deals. Many were craving reassurance that Mrs. Clinton’s campaign was on track.

    “Of course we are worried, especially those people from NATO countries,” said Peter Wittig, the German ambassador to Washington. “The Americans are the ones who elect their president, but the whole alliance is watching this. We have a lot of skin in the game.”

    Like many envoys, Mr. Wittig spent a day with the Republicans in Cleveland and a day in Philadelphia. He was studiously diplomatic about Mr. Trump — calling him a “newcomer and an outsider” — but he said Europeans would be comfortable with Mrs. Clinton because she was a known quantity.

    “She has a record of holding up the alliance,” Mr. Wittig said."
     

    Replies: @avraham, @Jack D, @Anonymous

    Trump does not see much advantage in provoking WWIII with the Russians. I think that is a good thing. Of course, NATO would be out of work. But they have not had anything useful to do anyway for 25 years

  52. @Paulestinian
    Appealing to emotion rather than logic was The Scott Adams prescription IIRC. He seems to beleive he changed the Clintons campaigns philosophy on that as well.

    Replies: @Olorin, @Perplexed

    DNC is playing with fire here by admitting terrorists aren’t logical, but emotional.

    If terrorists are more emotional than logical, that means they operate more from a feminine framing than a masculine one.

    Equating terrorists with feminine emotion seems like a wiggy message to put out when we’re all supposed to line up to vote for the first grrl POTUS.

    I’m imagining a remake of Dr. Strangelove with an all-girl war room. Can’t decide whether to make it a Broadway musical or a Greek tragedy.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Olorin

    "Equating terrorists with feminine emotion seems like a wiggy message to put out when we’re all supposed to line up to vote for the first grrl POTUS.

    I’m imagining a remake of Dr. Strangelove with an all-girl war room. Can’t decide whether to make it a Broadway musical or a Greek tragedy"

    "Lez Girls" for a Broadway musical, "Alexandra's Ragtime Band" for a Greek tragedy.

  53. @Cagey Beast
    The phrase "I can't even ..." has been a running joke online for a while but I just experienced it. That NYT piece advising urbi et orbi to "Leave ‘Martyrdom’ to the Jihadists" immediately exhausted me, after I'd clicked on it but before I'd read any of the text in front of me. I couldn’t even set foot into its worn out and shabby assumptions or look at its predicable collection of scolding, lying and progressive posturing.

    The Obama, Merkel, Hollande and Justin Trudeau dream team have broken me. I can't even enter into that NYT head space anymore. I just can't. This is why Trump has to win: just so this goes away and is replaced by something else. A President Trump will be the end of this era and the start of something new. That really is good enough for me now.

    Replies: @matt, @Tim, @Olorin, @Cryptogenic, @Ragno, @anonguy

    As the Symbolists would say: “Anything but this, anywhere but here.”

  54. @Tiny Duck
    If (white) people were more tolerant than crap like this wouldn't happen.

    You weirdos have no idea how People of Color (the majority of the world) see you

    http://verysmartbrothas.com/vsb-dnc-day-four-open-thread/

    Replies: @eah, @anon, @Marty, @Stealth, @zippo, @Brutusale

    I know how they see me – as someone who’s not dangerous. That’s why they (and domestic blacks) don’t respect me.

  55. @Harry Baldwin
    @The most deplorable one

    A question Hillary must be pondering is, "How much would it boost my chances if Bill tragically had a stroke or maybe ate some poison mushrooms before the election? And what would be the optimal timing--the day before the election, a week, maybe a month so we could have a state funeral and Donald Trump would have to stop saying mean things about me?"

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque, @iSteveFan, @kihowi, @Jack D, @Big Bill, @dearieme

    If Hillary wants anyone dead it is Trump not Bill. Bill and she are co-dependents. They fight with each other like cats and dogs but when the cop shows up they both yell at him to get the hell out of their house.

    If Trump continues to do well, I am seriously no joking very concerned for his safety. At the very least, Hillary and her enablers will lather 1/2 the country into a frenzy – this man is Hitler and he must be stopped. Will NO ONE come forward to stop this mad man and save humanity (hint hint)? At worst, they will make the proper arrangements themselves – tragic plane crash, etc.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    it helps that he flies his own plane. Better control acces to its cable ducts and computer...

    , @Barnard
    @Jack D

    I agreed with your assessment of the Clintons through the 2008 election, but now I don't know. His margin of victory always came from his ability to get enough white men voting for him to make up for the fact that the rest of the coalition wasn't enough. He can't deliver those votes anymore and other than a few Senators, he isn't going to carry much clout in Congress either. I doubt she sees him as that useful anymore.

  56. @Anonymous Nephew
    I was pleased to see the MSM denounce foreign interference so vigorously.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/30/us/politics/unnerved-by-donald-trump-european-diplomats-seek-reassurance-from-democrats.html?_r=0


    "Federica Mogherini, an Italian diplomat who serves as the European Union’s top foreign policy official, spends most of her time shuttling among Whitehall, the Quai d’Orsay and other elegant bastions of Europe’s foreign policy establishment.

    But this week, she was in Philadelphia, soldiering through the heat, the traffic and the peculiar rituals of an American political convention. She was one of an unusually large contingent of European officials who came here to watch Hillary Clinton claim the Democratic nomination for president.

    There was an undercurrent of quiet desperation in these visitors. They worried that Donald J. Trump could be elected president and follow through on his threats to end American support for NATO, seek closer ties to President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and rewrite trade deals. Many were craving reassurance that Mrs. Clinton’s campaign was on track.

    “Of course we are worried, especially those people from NATO countries,” said Peter Wittig, the German ambassador to Washington. “The Americans are the ones who elect their president, but the whole alliance is watching this. We have a lot of skin in the game.”

    Like many envoys, Mr. Wittig spent a day with the Republicans in Cleveland and a day in Philadelphia. He was studiously diplomatic about Mr. Trump — calling him a “newcomer and an outsider” — but he said Europeans would be comfortable with Mrs. Clinton because she was a known quantity.

    “She has a record of holding up the alliance,” Mr. Wittig said."
     

    Replies: @avraham, @Jack D, @Anonymous

    How long before Larry Tribe accuses Hillary of treason? I’ll take “when hell freezes over” for $100.

  57. @Thea
    The first article shows an ad designed to appeal the feminist nature of young Muslim men "DAESH silence her voice." I can't read the whole thing due to exceeding July limit of free articles. Do the comments notice thise young men don't care about her voice?

    Replies: @Jack D, @res

    Not sure if it works on the NYT but on a lot of sites you can get past the article count limitation by opening an anonymous/incognito browser window.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    @Jack D

    It works.

  58. @Thea
    The first article shows an ad designed to appeal the feminist nature of young Muslim men "DAESH silence her voice." I can't read the whole thing due to exceeding July limit of free articles. Do the comments notice thise young men don't care about her voice?

    Replies: @Jack D, @res

    I can’t read the whole thing due to exceeding July limit of free articles.

    Either search for the headline on Google and access the article through the search results or (if using chrome) open the link in an incognito window.

  59. @Harry Baldwin
    @The most deplorable one

    A question Hillary must be pondering is, "How much would it boost my chances if Bill tragically had a stroke or maybe ate some poison mushrooms before the election? And what would be the optimal timing--the day before the election, a week, maybe a month so we could have a state funeral and Donald Trump would have to stop saying mean things about me?"

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque, @iSteveFan, @kihowi, @Jack D, @Big Bill, @dearieme

    I didn’t know you could elect a dead guy. Why don’t they run FDR, Harry Truman, or Bill Clinton (for anything) and let the Governor pick who he wants? Name recognition would be great.

  60. @whorefinder
    The only non-Islamic religious extremists I see here are the Leftists and their religious nuttery.

    ONe day, Leftism will be declared the cult that it is and its adherents locked away forever for the good of mankind.

    Replies: @dc.sunsets, @Kylie

    Leftism is a religious cult populated by the clinically insane (when sanity is defined as a relentless process of matching ones perceptions with reality.)

    Sadly, it is also heritable (as is schizophrenia and substance abuse.) The only ways to eradicate it are a eugenics program or simply letting nature cull it’s carriers.

    The latter is assured sooner or later.

  61. @whorefinder
    The only non-Islamic religious extremists I see here are the Leftists and their religious nuttery.

    ONe day, Leftism will be declared the cult that it is and its adherents locked away forever for the good of mankind.

    Replies: @dc.sunsets, @Kylie

    “ONe day, Leftism will be declared the cult that it is and its adherents locked away forever for the good of mankind.”

    In keeping with the Left’s passion for with multiculturalism, I suggest they be locked away in a gulag of oubliettes located in the Sahara Desert.

  62. @jesse helms think-alike
    Regarding that Vallely oped cautioning against sainthood for the martyred priest.
    He needn't worry. The Communist anti-pope would sooner canonize the jihadist who beheaded Fr Hamel.
    Vallely's argument boils down to fear that it might offend jihadis.
    This is cowardice at a depth that's difficult to fathom.

    Unsaid is the fear that it might wake up the clueless to the fact that this is a war between civilization and barbarism. The actual danger that Islam poses to the West is nothing compared to the harm done by its apologists among us.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Percy Gryce

    “Regarding that Vallely oped cautioning against sainthood for the martyred priest.
    He needn’t worry. The Communist anti-pope would sooner canonize the jihadist who beheaded Fr Hamel.
    Vallely’s argument boils down to fear that it might offend jihadis.”

    I was hoping the anti-pope would declare the old guy a martyr entitled to enjoy one 72 year old virgin in Paradise. That would build a bridge of commonality with Muslims while acknowledging their superiority in a submissive fashion.

  63. The NY Times reminding us all in a timely fashion that if you’re not gonna link arms for the camera’s sake, sing Michael Row Your Boat Ashore and resume handing out anti-Trump literature….then keep your goddamn head down and shut the hell up. You sick, disgusting white neo-Nazi animal. (No, Jamaal! Not yet. ……..Wait – wait till Election Day first.)

    It’s reassuring when they stay on message like that.

  64. @Tiny Duck
    If (white) people were more tolerant than crap like this wouldn't happen.

    You weirdos have no idea how People of Color (the majority of the world) see you

    http://verysmartbrothas.com/vsb-dnc-day-four-open-thread/

    Replies: @eah, @anon, @Marty, @Stealth, @zippo, @Brutusale

    I don’t know. Poc’s (the ones who harbor ill will, anyway) are pretty open about their feeling s toward white people. You hear it from them all the time. We know.

  65. @Cagey Beast
    The phrase "I can't even ..." has been a running joke online for a while but I just experienced it. That NYT piece advising urbi et orbi to "Leave ‘Martyrdom’ to the Jihadists" immediately exhausted me, after I'd clicked on it but before I'd read any of the text in front of me. I couldn’t even set foot into its worn out and shabby assumptions or look at its predicable collection of scolding, lying and progressive posturing.

    The Obama, Merkel, Hollande and Justin Trudeau dream team have broken me. I can't even enter into that NYT head space anymore. I just can't. This is why Trump has to win: just so this goes away and is replaced by something else. A President Trump will be the end of this era and the start of something new. That really is good enough for me now.

    Replies: @matt, @Tim, @Olorin, @Cryptogenic, @Ragno, @anonguy

    Everything you just said, CB. To the power of 10.

  66. @Tiny Duck
    If (white) people were more tolerant than crap like this wouldn't happen.

    You weirdos have no idea how People of Color (the majority of the world) see you

    http://verysmartbrothas.com/vsb-dnc-day-four-open-thread/

    Replies: @eah, @anon, @Marty, @Stealth, @zippo, @Brutusale

    @tiny dIck:
    i coule give a hoot what ‘people of color’ think of me. I know what i think of them, that suffices

  67. @Eustace Tilley (not)
    Steve: Thanks so much for the link to the NYT OP-Ed by Professor Vallely.

    Tertullian wrote: "The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church" (Apologeticus, Chapter 50). If the martyrdom (that's what it is) of a humble parish priest at the altar of his church during Mass does not wake the French up to the nature of the evil that they have foolishly allowed within their gates, then it seems safe to assume nothing will.

    We shall see whether Father Hamel's spiritual seeds will be able to inseminate the extremely ill, even moribund, Church in France and Europe, or whether they shall "fall among thorns", which shall spring up and choke them. Has Europe now become barren ground, which even the blood of martyrs cannot "refresh"?

    The French "philosophes" have been paving the paradise that was France and putting up a parking lot since they started their decapitation fad in 1789. Let's pray for a miracle: That this seed shall fall into a crack in the asphalt that is now our spiritually very poor France.

    Replies: @riches, @pyrrhus, @Percy Gryce

    A previous comment mentioned the tired phrase “I can’t even …” but I’d like to evoke “Wow, just …” after reading Tilley’s comment.

    It shamed me that I hadn’t already learned Father Jacques Hamel’s name. (And nice Joni Mitchell quote too.)

  68. @Cagey Beast
    The phrase "I can't even ..." has been a running joke online for a while but I just experienced it. That NYT piece advising urbi et orbi to "Leave ‘Martyrdom’ to the Jihadists" immediately exhausted me, after I'd clicked on it but before I'd read any of the text in front of me. I couldn’t even set foot into its worn out and shabby assumptions or look at its predicable collection of scolding, lying and progressive posturing.

    The Obama, Merkel, Hollande and Justin Trudeau dream team have broken me. I can't even enter into that NYT head space anymore. I just can't. This is why Trump has to win: just so this goes away and is replaced by something else. A President Trump will be the end of this era and the start of something new. That really is good enough for me now.

    Replies: @matt, @Tim, @Olorin, @Cryptogenic, @Ragno, @anonguy

    This sentiment is exactly what is shared by enough people so that Trump will be winning in a paradigm-shifting landslide in the general.

    I’ve been saying it since forever, albeit only the past several months on iSteve…

  69. @Anonymous Nephew
    I was pleased to see the MSM denounce foreign interference so vigorously.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/30/us/politics/unnerved-by-donald-trump-european-diplomats-seek-reassurance-from-democrats.html?_r=0


    "Federica Mogherini, an Italian diplomat who serves as the European Union’s top foreign policy official, spends most of her time shuttling among Whitehall, the Quai d’Orsay and other elegant bastions of Europe’s foreign policy establishment.

    But this week, she was in Philadelphia, soldiering through the heat, the traffic and the peculiar rituals of an American political convention. She was one of an unusually large contingent of European officials who came here to watch Hillary Clinton claim the Democratic nomination for president.

    There was an undercurrent of quiet desperation in these visitors. They worried that Donald J. Trump could be elected president and follow through on his threats to end American support for NATO, seek closer ties to President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and rewrite trade deals. Many were craving reassurance that Mrs. Clinton’s campaign was on track.

    “Of course we are worried, especially those people from NATO countries,” said Peter Wittig, the German ambassador to Washington. “The Americans are the ones who elect their president, but the whole alliance is watching this. We have a lot of skin in the game.”

    Like many envoys, Mr. Wittig spent a day with the Republicans in Cleveland and a day in Philadelphia. He was studiously diplomatic about Mr. Trump — calling him a “newcomer and an outsider” — but he said Europeans would be comfortable with Mrs. Clinton because she was a known quantity.

    “She has a record of holding up the alliance,” Mr. Wittig said."
     

    Replies: @avraham, @Jack D, @Anonymous

    german wimps and traitors like wittig sure have ‘skin in the game’! Trump would mop the floor with that merkel and her eunuchs. And ending nato would force germans to depussy and rearm. That alone would turn the political landscape on its ear.

  70. @Paulestinian
    Appealing to emotion rather than logic was The Scott Adams prescription IIRC. He seems to beleive he changed the Clintons campaigns philosophy on that as well.

    Replies: @Olorin, @Perplexed

    He thought the Clinton campaign had brought in a master bamboozler to counter Trump. Adams didn’t name him, but the only one I could think of was motivational pitchman Tony Robbins.

    • Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    @Perplexed

    "He thought the Clinton campaign had brought in a master bamboozler".
    It's thought to be Robert Cialdini.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

  71. @Jack D
    @Harry Baldwin

    If Hillary wants anyone dead it is Trump not Bill. Bill and she are co-dependents. They fight with each other like cats and dogs but when the cop shows up they both yell at him to get the hell out of their house.

    If Trump continues to do well, I am seriously no joking very concerned for his safety. At the very least, Hillary and her enablers will lather 1/2 the country into a frenzy - this man is Hitler and he must be stopped. Will NO ONE come forward to stop this mad man and save humanity (hint hint)? At worst, they will make the proper arrangements themselves - tragic plane crash, etc.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Barnard

    it helps that he flies his own plane. Better control acces to its cable ducts and computer…

  72. @Chrisnonymous
    From the second article:

    said a Parisian churchgoer. “It’s not a Muslim who killed a Catholic..."
     
    People refuse to see reality.

    Also, the NYT had to explain what "altar" and "sanctuary" mean...

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Perplexed

    Yesterday’s news: There’s a mosque next to the church, built on land the church gave to the muzzies, Today’s news: The Turks warned French intelligence about the perps on June 29.

  73. Most “progressives” operate in a conceptual world that diverges sharply from reality in many places. For example, such progressives literally cannot comprehend that some individuals and collectivities truly do believe and are motivated by religious impulses totally beyond these progressives’ understanding. The left wing enthusiasts who’ve equipped themselves with such ideological blinders will continue to come up with policies for dealing with Islamic terrorism that totally ignore the realities of the Muslim religion and the fanaticism it motivates.

  74. @Jack D
    @Harry Baldwin

    If Hillary wants anyone dead it is Trump not Bill. Bill and she are co-dependents. They fight with each other like cats and dogs but when the cop shows up they both yell at him to get the hell out of their house.

    If Trump continues to do well, I am seriously no joking very concerned for his safety. At the very least, Hillary and her enablers will lather 1/2 the country into a frenzy - this man is Hitler and he must be stopped. Will NO ONE come forward to stop this mad man and save humanity (hint hint)? At worst, they will make the proper arrangements themselves - tragic plane crash, etc.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Barnard

    I agreed with your assessment of the Clintons through the 2008 election, but now I don’t know. His margin of victory always came from his ability to get enough white men voting for him to make up for the fact that the rest of the coalition wasn’t enough. He can’t deliver those votes anymore and other than a few Senators, he isn’t going to carry much clout in Congress either. I doubt she sees him as that useful anymore.

  75. @Harry Baldwin
    @The most deplorable one

    A question Hillary must be pondering is, "How much would it boost my chances if Bill tragically had a stroke or maybe ate some poison mushrooms before the election? And what would be the optimal timing--the day before the election, a week, maybe a month so we could have a state funeral and Donald Trump would have to stop saying mean things about me?"

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque, @iSteveFan, @kihowi, @Jack D, @Big Bill, @dearieme

    Oi, you leave my jokes alone!!!

    More seriously, if this simple idea could occur to both thee and me, I think we can be certain that it has occurred to the she-wolf. But wouldn’t she organise the assassination of Trump instead? Dunno.

    What if her health visibly breaks down before the election: does her VP candidate automatically become the Democrat presidential candidate? How skilled is he at the poisoned mushroom stratagem?

  76. What the Pope thinks, or some professor, or Manuel Valls thinks, is irrelevant. We are indeed seeing a clash of civilizations. On a massive and ever accelerating scale.

    I fully expect to see a groundswell of support to make Father Hamel a martyr and fast track him for sainthood. Fr. Hamel will certainly be the focal point of nationalists and in particular the FN (and also probably Sakorzy opportunistically) since it would be an easy way to get votes.

    Moreover the idea that a police state can and would stop daily jihadi attacks designed to express domination and create submission is laughable. There are not enough policeman or even enough policeman and military people in France to do that. Even with electronic monitoring there is not enough manpower, and the fantasy of “Person of Interest” remains just that — a fantasy. There is no all-knowing machine watching everyone all the time.

    So the attacks will go on, and likely accelerate as jihadis and would-be jihadis can see how much they *DOMINATE* ordinary Frenchmen and women. The whole purpose of the attacks is domination, the way the purpose of the Left, soft and hard, is moral preening and virtue signaling. And up against this is a French population that cannot flee anymore, not to Nice, or the French Alps, or quiet Normandy. They have to fight, and fight all the time. Fight to keep Wine and Cognac. Fight to keep pork. Fight to keep dogs. Fight to keep unveiled women. Fight to keep from bowing and scraping and groveling to foreign losers who swagger around as conquerors because it gives some of their women tingles down there and some of their men as well.

    I would imagine a huge black market in weapons in France, as France unlike Germany has no tradition of a government actually being competent and providing efficient and corruption-free social welfare benefits. Said Black Market being likely for the first time not just Jihadis but ordinary Frenchmen.

    TL:DR — The State has lost its legitimacy. It can neither provide security nor is it interested in doing so. People are rebelling, seizing figures of the moment like Fr. Hamel, and moving towards a racial/religious war of annihilation. Either the French or Muslims will rule France, there is zero ability for them to live together as the complete way of life of each is simply incompatible and mutually exclusive. You can’t have Sharia and Vineyards together. IMHO just as secular Zionist Israelis slowly morphed into fairly religious Jews during constant wars and intifadas, this process will rapidly and exponentially harden the French into National Religious Conservatives — very Catholic, very conservative, very nationalist, the way Hungarians and Poles and until recently the Irish and other Fringe Catholics often fighting and conquered by foreign non-Catholic powers became. Only much, much faster.

  77. @Eustace Tilley (not)
    Steve: Thanks so much for the link to the NYT OP-Ed by Professor Vallely.

    Tertullian wrote: "The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church" (Apologeticus, Chapter 50). If the martyrdom (that's what it is) of a humble parish priest at the altar of his church during Mass does not wake the French up to the nature of the evil that they have foolishly allowed within their gates, then it seems safe to assume nothing will.

    We shall see whether Father Hamel's spiritual seeds will be able to inseminate the extremely ill, even moribund, Church in France and Europe, or whether they shall "fall among thorns", which shall spring up and choke them. Has Europe now become barren ground, which even the blood of martyrs cannot "refresh"?

    The French "philosophes" have been paving the paradise that was France and putting up a parking lot since they started their decapitation fad in 1789. Let's pray for a miracle: That this seed shall fall into a crack in the asphalt that is now our spiritually very poor France.

    Replies: @riches, @pyrrhus, @Percy Gryce

    Very nicely done…

  78. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Slightly OT, but related to the perfidious NY Times.

    Our host has documented the Times’ descent into race-baiting nonsense. Yet a closer look at editorial page personnel is also instructive. James Bennet, editorial page editor, has played a key role in the Times’ race-baiting. And remember, Bennet hired T Genius Coates at the Atlantic in the first place, before moving on to transform the Times into a racializing machine.

    Another alt-media has a nice profile up on Bennet today
    http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/07/29/benn-j29.html

    The World Socialist Website http://www.wsws.org — I can just see readers tuning out now! But these people hate cultural Marxism, and hate TNC and the NY times as much as many regular Sailer readers — albeit probably for different reasons! Unabashedly paleomarxist, the WSWS has written numerous highly cogent articles on how the prestige press gins up racial tension to serve elite interests.

    Readers of Steve are highly encouraged to puruse a collection of their articles on the prestige press encouraging racial tension:

    http://www.wsws.org/en/topics/mediaCategory/media-us/

    You might not agree with all of their proposed solutions, but they’re alert analysists.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    The World Socialist Website http://www.wsws.org is pretty good. I've found movie reviews there that are the only other ones calling attention to some aspect of a movie that seems glaring to me.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  79. @Anonymous
    Slightly OT, but related to the perfidious NY Times.

    Our host has documented the Times' descent into race-baiting nonsense. Yet a closer look at editorial page personnel is also instructive. James Bennet, editorial page editor, has played a key role in the Times' race-baiting. And remember, Bennet hired T Genius Coates at the Atlantic in the first place, before moving on to transform the Times into a racializing machine.

    Another alt-media has a nice profile up on Bennet today
    http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/07/29/benn-j29.html

    The World Socialist Website www.wsws.org -- I can just see readers tuning out now! But these people hate cultural Marxism, and hate TNC and the NY times as much as many regular Sailer readers -- albeit probably for different reasons! Unabashedly paleomarxist, the WSWS has written numerous highly cogent articles on how the prestige press gins up racial tension to serve elite interests.

    Readers of Steve are highly encouraged to puruse a collection of their articles on the prestige press encouraging racial tension:

    http://www.wsws.org/en/topics/mediaCategory/media-us/

    You might not agree with all of their proposed solutions, but they're alert analysists.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    The World Socialist Website http://www.wsws.org is pretty good. I’ve found movie reviews there that are the only other ones calling attention to some aspect of a movie that seems glaring to me.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Steve Sailer

    You're grading on a pretty generous curve.

    Their monomanical stopped clock is near that time of day where it happens to be close to the right time. That's got a ways to go until it gets to pretty good.

  80. @Wilkey
    Slightly OT, but I just spent 20 minutes reading 15 different articles on the off-duty Swedish policewoman in a bikini who took down a thief. 20 minutes of my time completely wasted reading through articles with dozens of pictures a hot Swedish woman wearing tight clothing - and sometimes barely wearing anything at all - so I could find out the name of the thief, who is unnamed in any of the articles but whose hair (pretty much the only thing visible in the one picture of the arrest they posted) makes him look like he's almost certainly a "vibrant" minority of Middle Eastern descent. The sacrifices I make for this website...

    It must suck for the media to have such an awesome story but still have to censor half of it in order to maintain the narrative.

    Replies: @Jack D, @antipater_1

    “dozens of pictures a hot Swedish woman wearing tight clothing – and sometimes barely wearing anything at all”

    I don’t know Wilkey, I googled it and she doesn’t look very “hot” to me. Sort of a plain Jane is more like it.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    @antipater_1

    More "fit" than "hot."

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    , @The Alarmist
    @antipater_1


    “dozens of pictures a hot Swedish woman wearing tight clothing – and sometimes barely wearing anything at all”
     
    Funny, but we grow up with this image of hot Swedish chicks, and then we see pictures of the chicks from ABBA and they look rather plain.

    But the images of the cop and her friends are actually comforting in that they show a new breed of buff Swedish chicks who are capable of handling what their men are no longer capable of handling, and that is actually hot in its own way.
  81. Somewhat off-topic, but Trump needs to run with this. From the WSJ

    Hedge-Fund Money: $48.5 Million for Hillary Clinton, $19,000 for Donald Trump

    • Agree: Travis
  82. @Bugg
    As a Catholic, it's offensive to call Father Hamel's murder anything but martyrdom.It's past time to call Islam out on it's barbarity. Everything offends the 7th century death cult of inbreds. Appealing to their emotion or logic is like teaching a pig to sing either way.

    Replies: @PistolPete

    As a Catholic I havent been to mass in way too long. After this I will be sure to go this Sunday. The west needs to wake up. Sadly, I’m not to hopeful it will.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    @PistolPete


    As a Catholic I havent been to mass in way too long. After this I will be sure to go this Sunday.
     
    Amen, brother. The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church.

    St. Jacques Hamel, New Martyr, pray for us.
  83. @fish
    OT but since the opener was "Trrism" and the democratic nominee has some experience in this area I thought I'd drop it here.....


    Anybody notice how Drudge always manages to get those photos of the Hillbot 5000 looking like a contestant on "Retarded Queen for a Day"?

    http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Hillary+Clinton+Democratic+National+Convention+HGiQQJwiE_jl.jpg

    Replies: @Bugg, @antipater_1

    Has anyone looked at the Hildabeast “tongue” photograph from yesterday? Mike Cernovich has played this up hard and it sure does look like something is wrong with her. Could it be just a photo-shoped fake?
    I am not qualified to say.

  84. @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    The second headline screams, " I Know Nothing of History, nor Etymology!"

    Replies: @International Jew

    What are you saying, about etymology?

  85. @Eustace Tilley (not)
    Steve: Thanks so much for the link to the NYT OP-Ed by Professor Vallely.

    Tertullian wrote: "The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church" (Apologeticus, Chapter 50). If the martyrdom (that's what it is) of a humble parish priest at the altar of his church during Mass does not wake the French up to the nature of the evil that they have foolishly allowed within their gates, then it seems safe to assume nothing will.

    We shall see whether Father Hamel's spiritual seeds will be able to inseminate the extremely ill, even moribund, Church in France and Europe, or whether they shall "fall among thorns", which shall spring up and choke them. Has Europe now become barren ground, which even the blood of martyrs cannot "refresh"?

    The French "philosophes" have been paving the paradise that was France and putting up a parking lot since they started their decapitation fad in 1789. Let's pray for a miracle: That this seed shall fall into a crack in the asphalt that is now our spiritually very poor France.

    Replies: @riches, @pyrrhus, @Percy Gryce

    And may the Judases like Professor Vallely share their prototype’s fate.

  86. @jesse helms think-alike
    Regarding that Vallely oped cautioning against sainthood for the martyred priest.
    He needn't worry. The Communist anti-pope would sooner canonize the jihadist who beheaded Fr Hamel.
    Vallely's argument boils down to fear that it might offend jihadis.
    This is cowardice at a depth that's difficult to fathom.

    Unsaid is the fear that it might wake up the clueless to the fact that this is a war between civilization and barbarism. The actual danger that Islam poses to the West is nothing compared to the harm done by its apologists among us.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Percy Gryce

    This is cowardice at a depth that’s difficult to fathom.

    Indeed. It’s surrender–it’s saying that we Catholics will not practice our faith–which he admits we would otherwise have every right to do–for fear of offending or provoking the Saracens. He has accepted the inferior status that the Muslim impose. He is in fact calling for the acceptance of dhimmitude.

  87. @Olorin
    @Paulestinian

    DNC is playing with fire here by admitting terrorists aren't logical, but emotional.

    If terrorists are more emotional than logical, that means they operate more from a feminine framing than a masculine one.

    Equating terrorists with feminine emotion seems like a wiggy message to put out when we're all supposed to line up to vote for the first grrl POTUS.

    I'm imagining a remake of Dr. Strangelove with an all-girl war room. Can't decide whether to make it a Broadway musical or a Greek tragedy.

    Replies: @Kylie

    “Equating terrorists with feminine emotion seems like a wiggy message to put out when we’re all supposed to line up to vote for the first grrl POTUS.

    I’m imagining a remake of Dr. Strangelove with an all-girl war room. Can’t decide whether to make it a Broadway musical or a Greek tragedy”

    “Lez Girls” for a Broadway musical, “Alexandra’s Ragtime Band” for a Greek tragedy.

  88. @PistolPete
    @Bugg

    As a Catholic I havent been to mass in way too long. After this I will be sure to go this Sunday. The west needs to wake up. Sadly, I'm not to hopeful it will.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

    As a Catholic I havent been to mass in way too long. After this I will be sure to go this Sunday.

    Amen, brother. The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church.

    St. Jacques Hamel, New Martyr, pray for us.

  89. @antipater_1
    @Wilkey

    "dozens of pictures a hot Swedish woman wearing tight clothing – and sometimes barely wearing anything at all"

    I don't know Wilkey, I googled it and she doesn't look very "hot" to me. Sort of a plain Jane is more like it.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce, @The Alarmist

    More “fit” than “hot.”

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Percy Gryce


    More “fit” than “hot.”
     
    My take too. She's a cop that's hitting the gym rather than the donut shop.

    Which is great ... but Sweden doesn't need women cops, it needs Swedish women to have babies, and Swedish men to send these lowlifes back to wherever the heck they came from.
  90. Literally teenage girl mindset

  91. Sarcasm didn’t work in WWII, so they might be right.

  92. @Perplexed
    @Paulestinian

    He thought the Clinton campaign had brought in a master bamboozler to counter Trump. Adams didn't name him, but the only one I could think of was motivational pitchman Tony Robbins.

    Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

    “He thought the Clinton campaign had brought in a master bamboozler”.
    It’s thought to be Robert Cialdini.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

    Do you have a link on that? Cialdini is a genius; hate to see him used by Politicians.

    Machiavelli reminded us that it is better to be loved than be go feared, but a leader had no power to make himself loved, only feared, so he was better off instilling fear. If he had read Cialdini, he'd have learned about how leaders can make themselves loved.

    Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

  93. If we do nothing for long enough, something’s bound to happen, and when it does it could be good.

  94. @Patrick Harris
    OT from CNN: "US Navy intends to name ship after Harvey Milk."

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/29/politics/us-navy-intends-to-name-ship-after-harvey-milk/index.html?sr=fbcnni072916us-navy-intends-to-name-ship-after-harvey-milk1247PMStoryLink&linkId=27072854

    Who wants to serve on that vessel? Those poor sailors better have some thick skin ("the ship that goes down at the first opportunity," etc.)

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    OT from CNN: “US Navy intends to name ship after Harvey Milk.”

    I don’t have a military background, so someone more plugged in will have to comment.

    But my impression is the US military really seems to have “flipped” in the last ten or so. Going from just bureaucratic and trying to make the best of whatever nonsense–women, gays–the politicians were foisting on it, to really becoming aggressively PC and just shitting on normals, and those who express typical normal thoughts.

    And PC backed by an authoritarian culture, seems like it would make a pretty unpleasant environment. Sort of the Maoist “Cultural Revolution” thing–which is literally what it is a cultural revolution.

    ~~~
    BTW, I will say the ship naming thing has headed down hill long ago. When I was a kid the aircraft carriers had names like Yorktown, Intrepid, Midway, Coral Sea, Ranger, Independence, Kitty Hawk, Enterprise. Roosevelt and Kennedy were in their somewhere. Then with Nimitz–a fine tribute to the man from Fredericksburg things began to go downhill and we got carriers names for congressional hacks like Carl Vinson and John Stennis. Then Reagan got one–you didn’t even have to be dead anymore. Then it was like ok everyone gets one, Bush, Ford. They haven’t given Clinton one, perhaps because they think for him it should be a submarine.

    I realize Milk won’t be getting an aircraft carrier he’s apparently getting an oiler, which seems vaguely appropriate. Still … no shame.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    @AnotherDad

    Good comments on PC + authoritarian/militarized system = Maoist hell.

    I'd be the absolute last person to defend bardashery under arms, but I will point out two things: (1) Milk actually served honorably in the Navy, and (2) he is dead, so naming a ship for him is not as utterly outrageous as it otherwise would be.

    Replies: @Pontius, @Hibernian

    , @Brutusale
    @AnotherDad

    Col. David Hackworth touched on the subject of Army leadership repeatedly in his book About Face. In his opinion, the political "prancers" and "ticket punchers" took over from the real warriors from WW II in the late 50s. He tried to define his perceived dichotomy between thinkers who try to fight (BAD) and fighters who try to think (GOOD), but a service whose promotions were predicated on the punches to your ticket (NATO posting, Army War College, etc.) as opposed to being an able leader of men in combat, made it something hard to winnow out during peacetime. I found the same issues raised in Sean Naylor's book about JSOC, Relentless Strike, where he felt that the worst failures in SF operations were due to political general staff making political decisions.

    I still feel, as I touched on in a previous thread, that the USS Harvey Milk is a massive troll by the Navy, as it's going to be a Lewis-class oiler. The Lube Boat!

  95. @Abe
    Wait, wasn't the new, brilliant strategy to defeat ISIS with comedy?

    KERRY: Mr. President, the missiles have already launched, and MIRVs (mildly irreverent and risible vaudevillians) tipped with Chris Rock and Amy Schumer will be hitting Raqqa in less than 5 minutes.

    OBAMA: Call the Israelis. See if their Patriot missiles can still intercept. And prepare to launch the ICBMs tipped with Garrison Keiller and Ken Burns for a follow-up strike ASAP.

    Replies: @Jean Cocteausten

    Keillor and Burns weapons are prohibited by the Geneva Convention, or should be.

  96. @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    @Perplexed

    "He thought the Clinton campaign had brought in a master bamboozler".
    It's thought to be Robert Cialdini.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

    Do you have a link on that? Cialdini is a genius; hate to see him used by Politicians.

    Machiavelli reminded us that it is better to be loved than be go feared, but a leader had no power to make himself loved, only feared, so he was better off instilling fear. If he had read Cialdini, he’d have learned about how leaders can make themselves loved.

    • Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    @TomSchmidt

    "Do you have a link on that?". From memory it's somewhere on Scott Adams blog. He (Cialdini) apparently worked on one of the Obama campaigns too.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

  97. @Jack D
    @Thea

    Not sure if it works on the NYT but on a lot of sites you can get past the article count limitation by opening an anonymous/incognito browser window.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

    It works.

  98. @The most deplorable one
    @The most deplorable one

    Drudge points to this, as well:

    http://ntknetwork.com/bill-clinton-falls-asleep-during-hillary-clintons-convention-speech/

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    He is heavily made up and seems to have a wasting illness. The only people I know who look like that had defective heart valves which eventually killed them.

    BTW, Queen Hill has a terrible speaking voice, and Kaine looks like a servile goober.

    Masculinized, menopausal white woman and a pudgy white beta male. Don’t really see black America getting too enthused over them.

  99. @TomSchmidt
    @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

    Do you have a link on that? Cialdini is a genius; hate to see him used by Politicians.

    Machiavelli reminded us that it is better to be loved than be go feared, but a leader had no power to make himself loved, only feared, so he was better off instilling fear. If he had read Cialdini, he'd have learned about how leaders can make themselves loved.

    Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

    “Do you have a link on that?”. From memory it’s somewhere on Scott Adams blog. He (Cialdini) apparently worked on one of the Obama campaigns too.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

    Ah, thanks for the prompting. I found this NYT article from2012:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/13/health/dream-team-of-behavioral-scientists-advised-obama-campaign.html?_r=0

    One problem with past Republican anti-intellectualism was their ignoring the very real things discovered and explained in the academy and social science. Given the alt-right flavor of the Trump campaign and how many ideas have been sourced from Sailer and Heartiste (who is a big fan of Cialdini), it's possible the knowledge will at least penetrate the campaign, if not the Progressive social scientists. It makes it a fair fight.

    Replies: @PV van der Byl

  100. @antipater_1
    @Wilkey

    "dozens of pictures a hot Swedish woman wearing tight clothing – and sometimes barely wearing anything at all"

    I don't know Wilkey, I googled it and she doesn't look very "hot" to me. Sort of a plain Jane is more like it.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce, @The Alarmist

    “dozens of pictures a hot Swedish woman wearing tight clothing – and sometimes barely wearing anything at all”

    Funny, but we grow up with this image of hot Swedish chicks, and then we see pictures of the chicks from ABBA and they look rather plain.

    But the images of the cop and her friends are actually comforting in that they show a new breed of buff Swedish chicks who are capable of handling what their men are no longer capable of handling, and that is actually hot in its own way.

  101. @AnotherDad
    @Patrick Harris


    OT from CNN: “US Navy intends to name ship after Harvey Milk.”
     
    I don't have a military background, so someone more plugged in will have to comment.

    But my impression is the US military really seems to have "flipped" in the last ten or so. Going from just bureaucratic and trying to make the best of whatever nonsense--women, gays--the politicians were foisting on it, to really becoming aggressively PC and just shitting on normals, and those who express typical normal thoughts.

    And PC backed by an authoritarian culture, seems like it would make a pretty unpleasant environment. Sort of the Maoist "Cultural Revolution" thing--which is literally what it is a cultural revolution.

    ~~~
    BTW, I will say the ship naming thing has headed down hill long ago. When I was a kid the aircraft carriers had names like Yorktown, Intrepid, Midway, Coral Sea, Ranger, Independence, Kitty Hawk, Enterprise. Roosevelt and Kennedy were in their somewhere. Then with Nimitz--a fine tribute to the man from Fredericksburg things began to go downhill and we got carriers names for congressional hacks like Carl Vinson and John Stennis. Then Reagan got one--you didn't even have to be dead anymore. Then it was like ok everyone gets one, Bush, Ford. They haven't given Clinton one, perhaps because they think for him it should be a submarine.

    I realize Milk won't be getting an aircraft carrier he's apparently getting an oiler, which seems vaguely appropriate. Still ... no shame.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce, @Brutusale

    Good comments on PC + authoritarian/militarized system = Maoist hell.

    I’d be the absolute last person to defend bardashery under arms, but I will point out two things: (1) Milk actually served honorably in the Navy, and (2) he is dead, so naming a ship for him is not as utterly outrageous as it otherwise would be.

    • Replies: @Pontius
    @Percy Gryce

    And it will be full of seamen, so, appropriate I think.

    , @Hibernian
    @Percy Gryce

    There are reports that he sexually exploited enlisted men and underaged civilians.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

  102. @Percy Gryce
    @AnotherDad

    Good comments on PC + authoritarian/militarized system = Maoist hell.

    I'd be the absolute last person to defend bardashery under arms, but I will point out two things: (1) Milk actually served honorably in the Navy, and (2) he is dead, so naming a ship for him is not as utterly outrageous as it otherwise would be.

    Replies: @Pontius, @Hibernian

    And it will be full of seamen, so, appropriate I think.

  103. If Hillary wins, is Bill going to be the defacto President, the Dick Cheney to GWB, or is he just going to goof off and play golf and screw hookers while Hillary decides whether to start new world wars, etc.? Just curious.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Jonathan Mason

    Good question. For some reason, it doesn't seem to come up much in the press...

    Replies: @Douglas Knight

    , @Desiderius
    @Jonathan Mason

    If he doesn't die first, Bill will be de facto Pres, but no one wants to tell Hillary, or her aging feminist supporters.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Jonathan Mason


    If Hillary wins, is Bill going to be the defacto President, the Dick Cheney to GWB, or is he just going to goof off and play golf and screw hookers while Hillary decides whether to start new world wars, etc.? Just curious.
     
    Bill isn't going to be the defacto president. That's certainly not happening. It would violate all the feminist ... whatever, and be way too demeaning to Hillary. (Even though she was supposed to be two for the price of one during his deal.) I suspect he will give her advice on stuff--both personnel and politics especially where things are rocky.

    I don't know if Bill's doctor says he's "healthy enough for sexual activity" ... but I suspect if he is it's going to be more that route, enjoying some "away from the office" "downtime", golfing with Trump, etc. The problem is the press will now have some reason to pay attention to what he's up to, which can't be all that comforting. And while plenty of gals would like to sleep with the President ... how many relish the thought of being "the other woman" and pissing off the President of the United States. Doesn't sound like a healthy choice!

    I suspect Bill's a little conflicted, though having the first female president get there just because she's your wife sounds sorta ego boosting.
  104. @Jonathan Mason
    If Hillary wins, is Bill going to be the defacto President, the Dick Cheney to GWB, or is he just going to goof off and play golf and screw hookers while Hillary decides whether to start new world wars, etc.? Just curious.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Desiderius, @AnotherDad

    Good question. For some reason, it doesn’t seem to come up much in the press…

    • Replies: @Douglas Knight
    @Steve Sailer

    NYT touched on this recently:


    Bill Clinton will not become a regular at cabinet meetings, his wife’s advisers say...may not even have an office in the West Wing...Historically, when Mr. Clinton does not have a job to do, he gets into trouble.
     
  105. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    The World Socialist Website http://www.wsws.org is pretty good. I've found movie reviews there that are the only other ones calling attention to some aspect of a movie that seems glaring to me.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    You’re grading on a pretty generous curve.

    Their monomanical stopped clock is near that time of day where it happens to be close to the right time. That’s got a ways to go until it gets to pretty good.

  106. @Jonathan Mason
    If Hillary wins, is Bill going to be the defacto President, the Dick Cheney to GWB, or is he just going to goof off and play golf and screw hookers while Hillary decides whether to start new world wars, etc.? Just curious.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Desiderius, @AnotherDad

    If he doesn’t die first, Bill will be de facto Pres, but no one wants to tell Hillary, or her aging feminist supporters.

  107. If Bill does die with Hillary in office, we could be looking at a Victoria after Albert scenario. She really does adore him (I know, I know – but male infidelity’s affect on female attraction is… complex), or at least she’s gotten used to having him around/to rely on for political stuff.

    She could take it hard.

    • Replies: @mobi
    @Desiderius


    She could take it hard.
     
    She's always seemed more the 'give it hard' type.
  108. @Steve Sailer
    @Jonathan Mason

    Good question. For some reason, it doesn't seem to come up much in the press...

    Replies: @Douglas Knight

    NYT touched on this recently:

    Bill Clinton will not become a regular at cabinet meetings, his wife’s advisers say…may not even have an office in the West Wing…Historically, when Mr. Clinton does not have a job to do, he gets into trouble.

  109. @Percy Gryce
    @antipater_1

    More "fit" than "hot."

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    More “fit” than “hot.”

    My take too. She’s a cop that’s hitting the gym rather than the donut shop.

    Which is great … but Sweden doesn’t need women cops, it needs Swedish women to have babies, and Swedish men to send these lowlifes back to wherever the heck they came from.

    • Agree: Percy Gryce
  110. @Jonathan Mason
    If Hillary wins, is Bill going to be the defacto President, the Dick Cheney to GWB, or is he just going to goof off and play golf and screw hookers while Hillary decides whether to start new world wars, etc.? Just curious.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Desiderius, @AnotherDad

    If Hillary wins, is Bill going to be the defacto President, the Dick Cheney to GWB, or is he just going to goof off and play golf and screw hookers while Hillary decides whether to start new world wars, etc.? Just curious.

    Bill isn’t going to be the defacto president. That’s certainly not happening. It would violate all the feminist … whatever, and be way too demeaning to Hillary. (Even though she was supposed to be two for the price of one during his deal.) I suspect he will give her advice on stuff–both personnel and politics especially where things are rocky.

    I don’t know if Bill’s doctor says he’s “healthy enough for sexual activity” … but I suspect if he is it’s going to be more that route, enjoying some “away from the office” “downtime”, golfing with Trump, etc. The problem is the press will now have some reason to pay attention to what he’s up to, which can’t be all that comforting. And while plenty of gals would like to sleep with the President … how many relish the thought of being “the other woman” and pissing off the President of the United States. Doesn’t sound like a healthy choice!

    I suspect Bill’s a little conflicted, though having the first female president get there just because she’s your wife sounds sorta ego boosting.

  111. @Travis
    the leftists media made Michael Brown a Martyr, along with Trayvon Martin, yet will not allow the Catholics to add this priest to the long list of martyrs who were slaughtered by Islamists.

    The left knows that making martyrs out of criminals has inflamed racial tensions, resulting in the killing of police officers, violent protests, looting etc..But they must realize that this is not going to occur among Catholics, the Pope is welcoming the Islamists. Making the priest a martyr will not be the start of a Catholic Lives Matter movement.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    “Making the priest a martyr will not be the start of a Catholic Lives Matter movement.”

    It should be, but you’re probably right, it probably won’t be.

  112. @Percy Gryce
    @AnotherDad

    Good comments on PC + authoritarian/militarized system = Maoist hell.

    I'd be the absolute last person to defend bardashery under arms, but I will point out two things: (1) Milk actually served honorably in the Navy, and (2) he is dead, so naming a ship for him is not as utterly outrageous as it otherwise would be.

    Replies: @Pontius, @Hibernian

    There are reports that he sexually exploited enlisted men and underaged civilians.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    @Hibernian

    See, I go out on a limb there and the nancy boys cut it off.

    Homosexuality is very problematic in any social organization. One might even say that civilization founders on it.

  113. @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    @TomSchmidt

    "Do you have a link on that?". From memory it's somewhere on Scott Adams blog. He (Cialdini) apparently worked on one of the Obama campaigns too.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

    Ah, thanks for the prompting. I found this NYT article from2012:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/13/health/dream-team-of-behavioral-scientists-advised-obama-campaign.html?_r=0

    One problem with past Republican anti-intellectualism was their ignoring the very real things discovered and explained in the academy and social science. Given the alt-right flavor of the Trump campaign and how many ideas have been sourced from Sailer and Heartiste (who is a big fan of Cialdini), it’s possible the knowledge will at least penetrate the campaign, if not the Progressive social scientists. It makes it a fair fight.

    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    @TomSchmidt

    Charlie Munger, Vice Chairman of Berkshire Hathaway (Warren Buffett's company) is a huge Cialdini fan. He often refers to his books in public speeches and interviews.

  114. @Desiderius
    If Bill does die with Hillary in office, we could be looking at a Victoria after Albert scenario. She really does adore him (I know, I know - but male infidelity's affect on female attraction is... complex), or at least she's gotten used to having him around/to rely on for political stuff.

    She could take it hard.

    Replies: @mobi

    She could take it hard.

    She’s always seemed more the ‘give it hard’ type.

  115. @Tiny Duck
    If (white) people were more tolerant than crap like this wouldn't happen.

    You weirdos have no idea how People of Color (the majority of the world) see you

    http://verysmartbrothas.com/vsb-dnc-day-four-open-thread/

    Replies: @eah, @anon, @Marty, @Stealth, @zippo, @Brutusale

    Reading “Very Smart Brothers” would be akin to watching very fast Mexicans sprint. The soft bigotry of low expectations.

  116. @AnotherDad
    @Patrick Harris


    OT from CNN: “US Navy intends to name ship after Harvey Milk.”
     
    I don't have a military background, so someone more plugged in will have to comment.

    But my impression is the US military really seems to have "flipped" in the last ten or so. Going from just bureaucratic and trying to make the best of whatever nonsense--women, gays--the politicians were foisting on it, to really becoming aggressively PC and just shitting on normals, and those who express typical normal thoughts.

    And PC backed by an authoritarian culture, seems like it would make a pretty unpleasant environment. Sort of the Maoist "Cultural Revolution" thing--which is literally what it is a cultural revolution.

    ~~~
    BTW, I will say the ship naming thing has headed down hill long ago. When I was a kid the aircraft carriers had names like Yorktown, Intrepid, Midway, Coral Sea, Ranger, Independence, Kitty Hawk, Enterprise. Roosevelt and Kennedy were in their somewhere. Then with Nimitz--a fine tribute to the man from Fredericksburg things began to go downhill and we got carriers names for congressional hacks like Carl Vinson and John Stennis. Then Reagan got one--you didn't even have to be dead anymore. Then it was like ok everyone gets one, Bush, Ford. They haven't given Clinton one, perhaps because they think for him it should be a submarine.

    I realize Milk won't be getting an aircraft carrier he's apparently getting an oiler, which seems vaguely appropriate. Still ... no shame.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce, @Brutusale

    Col. David Hackworth touched on the subject of Army leadership repeatedly in his book About Face. In his opinion, the political “prancers” and “ticket punchers” took over from the real warriors from WW II in the late 50s. He tried to define his perceived dichotomy between thinkers who try to fight (BAD) and fighters who try to think (GOOD), but a service whose promotions were predicated on the punches to your ticket (NATO posting, Army War College, etc.) as opposed to being an able leader of men in combat, made it something hard to winnow out during peacetime. I found the same issues raised in Sean Naylor’s book about JSOC, Relentless Strike, where he felt that the worst failures in SF operations were due to political general staff making political decisions.

    I still feel, as I touched on in a previous thread, that the USS Harvey Milk is a massive troll by the Navy, as it’s going to be a Lewis-class oiler. The Lube Boat!

  117. @Hibernian
    @Percy Gryce

    There are reports that he sexually exploited enlisted men and underaged civilians.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

    See, I go out on a limb there and the nancy boys cut it off.

    Homosexuality is very problematic in any social organization. One might even say that civilization founders on it.

  118. @TomSchmidt
    @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

    Ah, thanks for the prompting. I found this NYT article from2012:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/13/health/dream-team-of-behavioral-scientists-advised-obama-campaign.html?_r=0

    One problem with past Republican anti-intellectualism was their ignoring the very real things discovered and explained in the academy and social science. Given the alt-right flavor of the Trump campaign and how many ideas have been sourced from Sailer and Heartiste (who is a big fan of Cialdini), it's possible the knowledge will at least penetrate the campaign, if not the Progressive social scientists. It makes it a fair fight.

    Replies: @PV van der Byl

    Charlie Munger, Vice Chairman of Berkshire Hathaway (Warren Buffett’s company) is a huge Cialdini fan. He often refers to his books in public speeches and interviews.

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