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From the NYT:

This Week in Hate

What It Feels Like When a Mosque Is Threatened

By ANNA NORTH MARCH 9, 2017

You see, putting a professor in the hospital for exercising her First Amendment rights isn’t hate. You’d already know that, if you weren’t so loathsomely hateful.

 
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  1. Silly rabbit. If you hate deplorables, that’s love…

  2. This is getting to be like poking fun at Pravda during the Soviet era: endless.

    Since the propaganda coming out of the New York Times has become so predictable, why even bother to read it anymore? Sure, all the informed bastards where I live do, but why should you continue to care?

    They smugly consider themselves well-informed, and they have no idea how deluded they all are.

    Do we really have to continue to treat that publication like something that matters?

    It’s helpful to know what the opposition is thinking, but I’m sure you could predict that and just write up a fake NYT equal to the real one.

    But please don’t stop. If not for iSteve and my neighbors, I would have no idea at all what is in that paper.

    • Replies: @Nigerian Nationalist
    Part of the propaganda includes: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/09/opinion/britain-the-immigration-nation.html

    This open borders madness threatens us all.
    , @MW
    This ignores what the NYT is. If you just want left-wing propagandizing nonsense, there are a million blogs out there. You can read the Huffington Post or Democratic Underground or ThinkProgress, etc. And all these blogs can also be safely ignored. There is no real value there.

    What is infuriating about the Times, is that it IS a first-rate newspaper. Pages A2-A20 (ignoring headlines and ledes) are the best serious global news coverage in America. The best journalists in the country want to work there, and do. They have intelligent journalists who take reporting seriously, covering much of what really matters in the world, and I don't think any other American news source comes close in terms of completeness and quality.

    But then it is edited by left-wing propagandists. Article selection on the front page is blatantly agenda-driven. Headlines do not meet the journalistic standards of articles. Ledes are re-worked to make tenuous connections, regardless of the more balanced content of the article. Nonsense "features" such as the one highlighted here, are tacked on.

    It's sort of on the old advertising model. Then as now, the high-quality journalism is the content that brings in the eyeballs. But now, instead of using it to sell shoes for money, more and more they sell political propaganda for power and influence.

    Anyway, none of this appears to be changing any time soon. Until Breitbart develops a 1,000-person newsroom doing real journalism, intelligent Americans will continue to read the Times regardless of their political beliefs. It is simply the best single source on foreign policy and domestic politics. There is no real alternative.
    , @wiseguy
    As an experiment, someone should put fake, over-the-top NY Times issues on some subscribers' doorsteps and see if they notice. Let's see what ridiculous ideas they will agree to as long as they are presented under a New York Times header.
    , @eD
    "Since the propaganda coming out of the New York Times has become so predictable, why even bother to read it anymore? Sure, all the informed bastards where I live do, but why should you continue to care?"

    I haven't understood why anyone still read the New York Times after they were caught red handed acting as a neocon propaganda outlet during the run-up to the invasion of Iraq. For several years after that, you could still find good articles in the back pages of the paper, especially in the Saturday edition which seems to have been subject to less heavy handed editing than on the other days. But eventually these went away, I suspect as a sufficient mass of good reporters eventually retired or left for other reasons.
  3. NYT’s This Week in Hate is “produced with “other partners in the Documenting Hate project”…
    The link there leads to the ProPublica site which notes in its About link:

    ProPublica is an independent, nonprofit newsroom that produces investigative journalism in the public interest. In addition to us, the project’s growing list of partners include The Google News Lab, Univision News, the New York Times Opinion Section, WNYC, BuzzFeed News, First Draft, Meedan, New America Media, The Root, Latino USA, The Advocate, and Ushahidi. We’re also working with civil-rights groups such as the Southern Poverty Law Center, and schools such as the University of Miami School of Communication.

    Perhaps the above might account for why the Middlebury mob violence and shutdown don’t show up in the NYT Hate column. Presumably the “growing list of partners” would veto any events being included that didn’t fit their respective narratives.
    In other words: fake news.
    Sad.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    Pro Publica was brought to you by the execrable Herb and Marion Sandler.

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2484
  4. Strange – Juan Thompson didn’t get a mention either.

    • LOL: snorlax
  5. Wow, I really expected better of the New York Times.

    Buzz Mohawk said:

    Do we really have to continue to treat that publication like something that matters?

    The NYT is the best college newspaper in America. That sort of matters.

  6. Wow, Laugh Track, that “list of partners” exactly recaps the chief organs of the American Left establishment and their coalition-of-the-fringes polyps.

  7. @Buzz Mohawk
    This is getting to be like poking fun at Pravda during the Soviet era: endless.

    Since the propaganda coming out of the New York Times has become so predictable, why even bother to read it anymore? Sure, all the informed bastards where I live do, but why should you continue to care?

    They smugly consider themselves well-informed, and they have no idea how deluded they all are.

    Do we really have to continue to treat that publication like something that matters?

    It's helpful to know what the opposition is thinking, but I'm sure you could predict that and just write up a fake NYT equal to the real one.

    But please don't stop. If not for iSteve and my neighbors, I would have no idea at all what is in that paper.

    Part of the propaganda includes: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/09/opinion/britain-the-immigration-nation.html

    This open borders madness threatens us all.

    • Replies: @Nigerian Nationalist
    Ohh and here is Samuel L Jackson complaining about lower earning Brits stealing American jobs.

    Trump voter???

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/09/movies/samuel-jackson-black-british-african-american-actors.html

    Notice how the gray lady takes the time to gather anecdotes proving his point; Why not statistics or telling all those out of work A-A actors to head behind the camera like Jordan peele?
  8. @Nigerian Nationalist
    Part of the propaganda includes: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/09/opinion/britain-the-immigration-nation.html

    This open borders madness threatens us all.

    Ohh and here is Samuel L Jackson complaining about lower earning Brits stealing American jobs.

    Trump voter???

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/09/movies/samuel-jackson-black-british-african-american-actors.html

    Notice how the gray lady takes the time to gather anecdotes proving his point; Why not statistics or telling all those out of work A-A actors to head behind the camera like Jordan peele?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I'd say there is a pretty good chance Samuel L. Jackson voted for Trump.
    , @El Dato

    Ohh and here is Samuel L Jackson complaining about lower earning Brits stealing American jobs.
     
    Well, the practically-blaxploitation movie "The 51st State" with Samuel as cool black drug-engineering cat paying a visit to savage, backwards and quaint Blighty (and repossessing the scottish castle of some slave owner who did wrong to his family as I recall) should have told anyone that Brits will definitely work for lower wages.

    (Also starring Meat Loaf, Robert Carlyle as lowly gangster and Liverpool soocer fan and lovely Emily Mortimer as contract killer. Well worth a Netflix session.)
  9. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    OT/ So, remember the pretty girl who was stabbed by Pablo “They” Gomez? Well here is what she is up to: https://archive.is/uQS2n

    Juniper is the embodiment of queer, brown, trans femme excellence. She is one of the most hardworking, resilient, passionate, intelligent, unapologetic, selfless people I know. The amount of love she has for her family, her chosen family, and her communities is unfathomable. She puts in hella work for the Fight4SpacesofColor, Fight4Queer&TransSpaces, the Transfer Community, SEO, the Latinx community, and the queer & trans community––both at Berkeley and at large. She is literally always ready to drop what she’s doing to be on the front lines of a protest or direct action, to call someone out on their transphobia/racism/misogyny/cissexism/classism/general bullshit.

    On a personal level, Juniper has been there for me when I was at my lowest––without hesitation––and I am blessed to call her a friend and femme sister. She, of all people, knows full well that this university was never built for us, and although I’m hella cynical of mainstream/partisan politics, I believe that Juniper can and will revolutionize this hellhole of a racist, capitalist, colonial institution (and the world).

    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
    Wow - SJW career grifting really is hard work, as others on this site have pointed out.

    Presumably, most of the individuals in the photographs on the FB page linked above are blissfully unaware that there might - just might - be some inherent tension between having a group president named "Zaynab" (زينب ) and the group's candidate for student sentate, the sexually fluid "Juniperangelica" who


    puts in hella work for the Fight4SpacesofColor, Fight4Queer&TransSpaces, the Transfer Community, SEO, the Latinx community, and the queer & trans community
    ...
    She is literally always ready ... to call someone out on their transphobia/racism/misogyny/cissexism/classism/general bullshit.
     
    , @El Dato
    > hella
    > hella

    Are these people cereal? I fully expect blue-dyed hair.
    , @Dumbo
    They came, they saw, they WON.

    Bow down to your new Overlords:

    http://i.imgur.com/nNj3Qo3.jpg

  10. @Nigerian Nationalist
    Ohh and here is Samuel L Jackson complaining about lower earning Brits stealing American jobs.

    Trump voter???

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/09/movies/samuel-jackson-black-british-african-american-actors.html

    Notice how the gray lady takes the time to gather anecdotes proving his point; Why not statistics or telling all those out of work A-A actors to head behind the camera like Jordan peele?

    I’d say there is a pretty good chance Samuel L. Jackson voted for Trump.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    Did Samuel L. Jackson vote for President Trump? Maybe.

    Did Reginald M. Jackson vote for President Trump? Maybe.
  11. Islamic professor?

  12. @Anon
    OT/ So, remember the pretty girl who was stabbed by Pablo "They" Gomez? Well here is what she is up to: https://archive.is/uQS2n

    Juniper is the embodiment of queer, brown, trans femme excellence. She is one of the most hardworking, resilient, passionate, intelligent, unapologetic, selfless people I know. The amount of love she has for her family, her chosen family, and her communities is unfathomable. She puts in hella work for the Fight4SpacesofColor, Fight4Queer&TransSpaces, the Transfer Community, SEO, the Latinx community, and the queer & trans community––both at Berkeley and at large. She is literally always ready to drop what she's doing to be on the front lines of a protest or direct action, to call someone out on their transphobia/racism/misogyny/cissexism/classism/general bullshit.

    On a personal level, Juniper has been there for me when I was at my lowest––without hesitation––and I am blessed to call her a friend and femme sister. She, of all people, knows full well that this university was never built for us, and although I'm hella cynical of mainstream/partisan politics, I believe that Juniper can and will revolutionize this hellhole of a racist, capitalist, colonial institution (and the world).
     

    Wow – SJW career grifting really is hard work, as others on this site have pointed out.

    Presumably, most of the individuals in the photographs on the FB page linked above are blissfully unaware that there might – just might – be some inherent tension between having a group president named “Zaynab” (زينب ) and the group’s candidate for student sentate, the sexually fluid “Juniperangelica” who

    puts in hella work for the Fight4SpacesofColor, Fight4Queer&TransSpaces, the Transfer Community, SEO, the Latinx community, and the queer & trans community

    She is literally always ready … to call someone out on their transphobia/racism/misogyny/cissexism/classism/general bullshit.

  13. Oh, that’s just journalists being journalists again.

    I honestly don’t mind. When your enemies find themselves in a hole, encourage them to keep digging.

  14. isteve readers may be interested in what happened when two actors did a gender-reversed Trump Hillary debate.

    https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2017/march/trump-clinton-debates-gender-reversal.html

    We heard a lot of “now I understand how this happened”—meaning how Trump won the election. People got upset. There was a guy two rows in front of me who was literally holding his head in his hands, and the person with him was rubbing his back. The simplicity of Trump’s message became easier for people to hear when it was coming from a woman—that was a theme. One person said, “I’m just so struck by how precise Trump’s technique is.” Another—a musical theater composer, actually—said that Trump created “hummable lyrics,” while Clinton talked a lot, and everything she was was true and factual, but there was no “hook” to it. Another theme was about not liking either candidate—you know, “I wouldn’t vote for either one.” Someone said that Jonathan Gordon [the male Hillary Clinton] was “really punchable” because of all the smiling.

    The video’s kind of cool.

    • Replies: @Yak-15
    The study authors decided that there was clearly going to be pro-man bias. Have they even considered that it's possible that since the audience favored the woman in the real and the fake debate that they...

    Never mind. Crimethink stopped.
    , @snorlax
    It's a bit unfair because the man has a high-pitched voice, which is a real handicap to being taken seriously.
  15. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/03/what-camille-paglia-understands-about-the-trump-era.html

    Poor poor Indians. Even prog agents and publishers don’t care about Red Bodies.

    “In the past decade, she’s undertaken solitary research into the Native American tribes of southeastern Pennsylvania, collecting artifacts and noting rock formations that she believes appear man-made. She hopes this research might develop into a book, but said that her agent foresaw little commercial appeal.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    Not just Indians. It's amazing how Ms Paglia has fallen off the media and publishing radar since she went off-message.
    , @Olorin
    http://www.upenn.edu/pennpress/book/toc/15255.html
    , @Olorin
    Also (had to dig to find it, couldn't recall the title):

    http://www.brill.com/colonialism-margins
  16. @Nigerian Nationalist
    Ohh and here is Samuel L Jackson complaining about lower earning Brits stealing American jobs.

    Trump voter???

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/09/movies/samuel-jackson-black-british-african-american-actors.html

    Notice how the gray lady takes the time to gather anecdotes proving his point; Why not statistics or telling all those out of work A-A actors to head behind the camera like Jordan peele?

    Ohh and here is Samuel L Jackson complaining about lower earning Brits stealing American jobs.

    Well, the practically-blaxploitation movie “The 51st State” with Samuel as cool black drug-engineering cat paying a visit to savage, backwards and quaint Blighty (and repossessing the scottish castle of some slave owner who did wrong to his family as I recall) should have told anyone that Brits will definitely work for lower wages.

    (Also starring Meat Loaf, Robert Carlyle as lowly gangster and Liverpool soocer fan and lovely Emily Mortimer as contract killer. Well worth a Netflix session.)

  17. @Anon
    OT/ So, remember the pretty girl who was stabbed by Pablo "They" Gomez? Well here is what she is up to: https://archive.is/uQS2n

    Juniper is the embodiment of queer, brown, trans femme excellence. She is one of the most hardworking, resilient, passionate, intelligent, unapologetic, selfless people I know. The amount of love she has for her family, her chosen family, and her communities is unfathomable. She puts in hella work for the Fight4SpacesofColor, Fight4Queer&TransSpaces, the Transfer Community, SEO, the Latinx community, and the queer & trans community––both at Berkeley and at large. She is literally always ready to drop what she's doing to be on the front lines of a protest or direct action, to call someone out on their transphobia/racism/misogyny/cissexism/classism/general bullshit.

    On a personal level, Juniper has been there for me when I was at my lowest––without hesitation––and I am blessed to call her a friend and femme sister. She, of all people, knows full well that this university was never built for us, and although I'm hella cynical of mainstream/partisan politics, I believe that Juniper can and will revolutionize this hellhole of a racist, capitalist, colonial institution (and the world).
     

    > hella
    > hella

    Are these people cereal? I fully expect blue-dyed hair.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    "Hella" is a hella common term across broad swaths of younger Californians.
  18. fwiw and, if I recall correctly, Malik Obama voted for Trump…

    https://twitter.com/ObamaMalik/status/839917082959613952/photo/1

    the Kenyan BC

    • Replies: @eah
    https://twitter.com/ObamaMalik/status/838282745696616448
  19. This is posted in ‘The Opinion Pages’, which I guess is a concession to the fact that what is and is not “hate” is subjective — however they do add “This Week in Hate highlights hate crimes and harassment around the country since the election of President Trump”.

    Also the same byline: What It Feels Like When a Mosque Is Threatened — it’s about a mosque in Lexington KY — now, I’m not in favor of threatening mosques — but you could perhaps also publish this under ‘This Week in Anti-Democracy’, since I don’t think the residents of Lexington were ever asked if they wanted large numbers of refugees, including muslims, shoved down their throats (at taxpayer expense) — that’s why there is now a mosque in Lexington — in fact KY generally has been heavily targeted for refugee resettlement: all posts with the tag ‘Kentucky’ at Refugee Resettlement Watch.

    • Replies: @Yak-15
    I want them to start resettling refugee families in Beverly Hills. Refugee families are large and they could use the mansions. Also, they would be captivated by the truly magic dirt.
    , @Oleaginous Outrager
    And the threat came all the way from Sheffield. The Sheffield in England, not Alabamy. The reach of The Trump "hate" machine is long, and its grasp powerful.
  20. @Hidden Cat
    fwiw and, if I recall correctly, Malik Obama voted for Trump...

    https://twitter.com/ObamaMalik/status/839917082959613952/photo/1

    the Kenyan BC

    • Replies: @Thea
    What does Obama's brother care about this internicene Anglo vs. Anglo conflict? I get that he is funny & has a bone to pick with his brother. He is the only black person that seems to "get" what is going on underneath but he has no horse in this race.
  21. Obviously, a man’s judgement cannot be better than the information on which he has based it. Give him the truth and he may still go wrong when he has the chance to be right, but give him no news or present him only with distorted and incomplete data, with ignorant, sloppy or biased reporting, with propaganda and deliberate falsehoods, and you destroy his whole reasoning processes, and make him something less than a man.

    Arthur Hays Sulzberger

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Just a Pinch couldn't hurt, could it?
    , @AndrewR
    Now I perfectly understand the NYT's MO
  22. @Anon
    http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/03/what-camille-paglia-understands-about-the-trump-era.html

    Poor poor Indians. Even prog agents and publishers don't care about Red Bodies.

    "In the past decade, she’s undertaken solitary research into the Native American tribes of southeastern Pennsylvania, collecting artifacts and noting rock formations that she believes appear man-made. She hopes this research might develop into a book, but said that her agent foresaw little commercial appeal."

    Not just Indians. It’s amazing how Ms Paglia has fallen off the media and publishing radar since she went off-message.

  23. @Anon
    http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/03/what-camille-paglia-understands-about-the-trump-era.html

    Poor poor Indians. Even prog agents and publishers don't care about Red Bodies.

    "In the past decade, she’s undertaken solitary research into the Native American tribes of southeastern Pennsylvania, collecting artifacts and noting rock formations that she believes appear man-made. She hopes this research might develop into a book, but said that her agent foresaw little commercial appeal."
  24. @Buzz Mohawk
    This is getting to be like poking fun at Pravda during the Soviet era: endless.

    Since the propaganda coming out of the New York Times has become so predictable, why even bother to read it anymore? Sure, all the informed bastards where I live do, but why should you continue to care?

    They smugly consider themselves well-informed, and they have no idea how deluded they all are.

    Do we really have to continue to treat that publication like something that matters?

    It's helpful to know what the opposition is thinking, but I'm sure you could predict that and just write up a fake NYT equal to the real one.

    But please don't stop. If not for iSteve and my neighbors, I would have no idea at all what is in that paper.

    This ignores what the NYT is. If you just want left-wing propagandizing nonsense, there are a million blogs out there. You can read the Huffington Post or Democratic Underground or ThinkProgress, etc. And all these blogs can also be safely ignored. There is no real value there.

    What is infuriating about the Times, is that it IS a first-rate newspaper. Pages A2-A20 (ignoring headlines and ledes) are the best serious global news coverage in America. The best journalists in the country want to work there, and do. They have intelligent journalists who take reporting seriously, covering much of what really matters in the world, and I don’t think any other American news source comes close in terms of completeness and quality.

    But then it is edited by left-wing propagandists. Article selection on the front page is blatantly agenda-driven. Headlines do not meet the journalistic standards of articles. Ledes are re-worked to make tenuous connections, regardless of the more balanced content of the article. Nonsense “features” such as the one highlighted here, are tacked on.

    It’s sort of on the old advertising model. Then as now, the high-quality journalism is the content that brings in the eyeballs. But now, instead of using it to sell shoes for money, more and more they sell political propaganda for power and influence.

    Anyway, none of this appears to be changing any time soon. Until Breitbart develops a 1,000-person newsroom doing real journalism, intelligent Americans will continue to read the Times regardless of their political beliefs. It is simply the best single source on foreign policy and domestic politics. There is no real alternative.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    If you read NYT articles all the way to the end, you often will notice the reporters subverting the first few paragraphs.
    , @Achmed E. Newman

    Then as now, the high-quality journalism is the content that brings in the eyeballs. But now, instead of using it to sell shoes for money, more and more they sell political propaganda for power and influence.
     
    That's a very interesting take on it, MW. I have never read a full NYT article in years, just because I don't want to have any part in this propaganda business. To me it's like having a cable TV subscription (I don't) just to get one channel, say The History Channel, because they have had interesting stories about WWII on day and night. (Yeah, the channel morphed into 24/7 Pawn Stars, so you probably shouldn't sign-up for any long-term contract.)

    You'd still be supporting all the crap and propaganda that they push on the other channels even if you never watch the others. In the same way, paying any money to these NYT slimeballs (guys running the organization, not the writers, per your comment) just encourages them. Even clicking on their articles does the same for the internet version, at least for what's not behind a paywall.

    I'd rather Steve Sailer and others read through this stuff for me, not because it's not interesting, but because I don't want to be a part of it. Also, BTW, I don't see how I'd have time - zerohedge alone can be a real time-suck itself if one delves into the great comments.

    You two guys knock yourselves out, as they say ;-}
    , @snorlax
    The Wall Street Journal, but outside the opinion pages it's nearly as hysterically anti-Trump as the Times.
    , @Jus' Sayin'...

    "...intelligent Americans will continue to read the Times regardless of their political beliefs. It is simply the best single source on foreign policy and domestic politics. There is no real alternative."
     
    This intelligent American stopped reading the NYT and like fake news sources about a decade ago. Anyone who relies on "the best single source" in today's news rich environment is either not terribly intelligent or intellectually lazy and most certainly ill-informed. I have friends and acquaintances, academics and other members of the intelligentsia, who rely on the NYT (and occasionally its fake news cohorts such as NPR, WaPo, WST, etc.) and are astonishingly ignorant of basic facts and their interpretation, e.g., the steady US escalation of provocations against Russia that began with Clinton's expansion of NATO and abrogation of the ABM treaty. They become downright terrified when I go off the reservation and confront them with verifiable but inconvenient facts about, e.g., Pizza Gate, that were first reported in the sources they rely on but were later repudiated and expunged from the record by these same sources when these same facts became inconvenient contradictions of the fake news's various narratives.
    , @Almost Missouri

    "But now, instead of using it to sell shoes for money, more and more they sell political propaganda for power and influence."
     
    That's a good point. Besides printing fake news, the NYT/WaPo/etc. increasingly have fake readers generated on Chinese click-farms.

    Moving newsprint or making revenue are increasingly irrelevant. NYT and WaPo each have one reader who actually matters: Carlos Slim for NYT and Jeff Bezos for WaPo. The purpose of those newspapers is to please those two readers and to project their views.

    They might be happy if they don't lose too much money, but that is secondary.

  25. @Anon
    http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/03/what-camille-paglia-understands-about-the-trump-era.html

    Poor poor Indians. Even prog agents and publishers don't care about Red Bodies.

    "In the past decade, she’s undertaken solitary research into the Native American tribes of southeastern Pennsylvania, collecting artifacts and noting rock formations that she believes appear man-made. She hopes this research might develop into a book, but said that her agent foresaw little commercial appeal."

    Also (had to dig to find it, couldn’t recall the title):

    http://www.brill.com/colonialism-margins

  26. @MW
    This ignores what the NYT is. If you just want left-wing propagandizing nonsense, there are a million blogs out there. You can read the Huffington Post or Democratic Underground or ThinkProgress, etc. And all these blogs can also be safely ignored. There is no real value there.

    What is infuriating about the Times, is that it IS a first-rate newspaper. Pages A2-A20 (ignoring headlines and ledes) are the best serious global news coverage in America. The best journalists in the country want to work there, and do. They have intelligent journalists who take reporting seriously, covering much of what really matters in the world, and I don't think any other American news source comes close in terms of completeness and quality.

    But then it is edited by left-wing propagandists. Article selection on the front page is blatantly agenda-driven. Headlines do not meet the journalistic standards of articles. Ledes are re-worked to make tenuous connections, regardless of the more balanced content of the article. Nonsense "features" such as the one highlighted here, are tacked on.

    It's sort of on the old advertising model. Then as now, the high-quality journalism is the content that brings in the eyeballs. But now, instead of using it to sell shoes for money, more and more they sell political propaganda for power and influence.

    Anyway, none of this appears to be changing any time soon. Until Breitbart develops a 1,000-person newsroom doing real journalism, intelligent Americans will continue to read the Times regardless of their political beliefs. It is simply the best single source on foreign policy and domestic politics. There is no real alternative.

    If you read NYT articles all the way to the end, you often will notice the reporters subverting the first few paragraphs.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    As you know they used to say about Pravda, the closest things to truth were buried deep inside. People read it from back to front. Sounds like the NYT has become just like that.
  27. @Steve Sailer
    If you read NYT articles all the way to the end, you often will notice the reporters subverting the first few paragraphs.

    As you know they used to say about Pravda, the closest things to truth were buried deep inside. People read it from back to front. Sounds like the NYT has become just like that.

  28. @MW
    This ignores what the NYT is. If you just want left-wing propagandizing nonsense, there are a million blogs out there. You can read the Huffington Post or Democratic Underground or ThinkProgress, etc. And all these blogs can also be safely ignored. There is no real value there.

    What is infuriating about the Times, is that it IS a first-rate newspaper. Pages A2-A20 (ignoring headlines and ledes) are the best serious global news coverage in America. The best journalists in the country want to work there, and do. They have intelligent journalists who take reporting seriously, covering much of what really matters in the world, and I don't think any other American news source comes close in terms of completeness and quality.

    But then it is edited by left-wing propagandists. Article selection on the front page is blatantly agenda-driven. Headlines do not meet the journalistic standards of articles. Ledes are re-worked to make tenuous connections, regardless of the more balanced content of the article. Nonsense "features" such as the one highlighted here, are tacked on.

    It's sort of on the old advertising model. Then as now, the high-quality journalism is the content that brings in the eyeballs. But now, instead of using it to sell shoes for money, more and more they sell political propaganda for power and influence.

    Anyway, none of this appears to be changing any time soon. Until Breitbart develops a 1,000-person newsroom doing real journalism, intelligent Americans will continue to read the Times regardless of their political beliefs. It is simply the best single source on foreign policy and domestic politics. There is no real alternative.

    Then as now, the high-quality journalism is the content that brings in the eyeballs. But now, instead of using it to sell shoes for money, more and more they sell political propaganda for power and influence.

    That’s a very interesting take on it, MW. I have never read a full NYT article in years, just because I don’t want to have any part in this propaganda business. To me it’s like having a cable TV subscription (I don’t) just to get one channel, say The History Channel, because they have had interesting stories about WWII on day and night. (Yeah, the channel morphed into 24/7 Pawn Stars, so you probably shouldn’t sign-up for any long-term contract.)

    You’d still be supporting all the crap and propaganda that they push on the other channels even if you never watch the others. In the same way, paying any money to these NYT slimeballs (guys running the organization, not the writers, per your comment) just encourages them. Even clicking on their articles does the same for the internet version, at least for what’s not behind a paywall.

    I’d rather Steve Sailer and others read through this stuff for me, not because it’s not interesting, but because I don’t want to be a part of it. Also, BTW, I don’t see how I’d have time – zerohedge alone can be a real time-suck itself if one delves into the great comments.

    You two guys knock yourselves out, as they say ;-}

  29. @Gabriel M
    isteve readers may be interested in what happened when two actors did a gender-reversed Trump Hillary debate.

    https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2017/march/trump-clinton-debates-gender-reversal.html

    We heard a lot of “now I understand how this happened”—meaning how Trump won the election. People got upset. There was a guy two rows in front of me who was literally holding his head in his hands, and the person with him was rubbing his back. The simplicity of Trump’s message became easier for people to hear when it was coming from a woman—that was a theme. One person said, “I’m just so struck by how precise Trump’s technique is.” Another—a musical theater composer, actually—said that Trump created “hummable lyrics,” while Clinton talked a lot, and everything she was was true and factual, but there was no “hook” to it. Another theme was about not liking either candidate—you know, “I wouldn’t vote for either one.” Someone said that Jonathan Gordon [the male Hillary Clinton] was “really punchable” because of all the smiling.
     
    The video's kind of cool.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yC7-JsR2Fk

    The study authors decided that there was clearly going to be pro-man bias. Have they even considered that it’s possible that since the audience favored the woman in the real and the fake debate that they…

    Never mind. Crimethink stopped.

  30. Fr. Ladislas Ladany S.J. using only Chi-Com publications, consistently out performed the Intel Community for decades. He only had 2 assistants, on a good day.

  31. @eah
    This is posted in 'The Opinion Pages', which I guess is a concession to the fact that what is and is not "hate" is subjective -- however they do add "This Week in Hate highlights hate crimes and harassment around the country since the election of President Trump".

    Also the same byline: What It Feels Like When a Mosque Is Threatened -- it's about a mosque in Lexington KY -- now, I'm not in favor of threatening mosques -- but you could perhaps also publish this under 'This Week in Anti-Democracy', since I don't think the residents of Lexington were ever asked if they wanted large numbers of refugees, including muslims, shoved down their throats (at taxpayer expense) -- that's why there is now a mosque in Lexington -- in fact KY generally has been heavily targeted for refugee resettlement: all posts with the tag 'Kentucky' at Refugee Resettlement Watch.

    I want them to start resettling refugee families in Beverly Hills. Refugee families are large and they could use the mansions. Also, they would be captivated by the truly magic dirt.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    Beverly Hills is already full of immigrants, from the 1979 fall of the Shah. Iranians of various stripes, but mainly Jews, decamped to BH and nearby Westwood south of UCLA, in the area known as Teherangeles. The old school BH residents like Lucille Ball and other stars died out, the end of an era. Maybe Bel Air could take some.
  32. @Buzz Mohawk
    This is getting to be like poking fun at Pravda during the Soviet era: endless.

    Since the propaganda coming out of the New York Times has become so predictable, why even bother to read it anymore? Sure, all the informed bastards where I live do, but why should you continue to care?

    They smugly consider themselves well-informed, and they have no idea how deluded they all are.

    Do we really have to continue to treat that publication like something that matters?

    It's helpful to know what the opposition is thinking, but I'm sure you could predict that and just write up a fake NYT equal to the real one.

    But please don't stop. If not for iSteve and my neighbors, I would have no idea at all what is in that paper.

    As an experiment, someone should put fake, over-the-top NY Times issues on some subscribers’ doorsteps and see if they notice. Let’s see what ridiculous ideas they will agree to as long as they are presented under a New York Times header.

  33. @Laugh Track
    NYT's This Week in Hate is "produced with "other partners in the Documenting Hate project"...
    The link there leads to the ProPublica site which notes in its About link:

    ProPublica is an independent, nonprofit newsroom that produces investigative journalism in the public interest. In addition to us, the project's growing list of partners include The Google News Lab, Univision News, the New York Times Opinion Section, WNYC, BuzzFeed News, First Draft, Meedan, New America Media, The Root, Latino USA, The Advocate, and Ushahidi. We're also working with civil-rights groups such as the Southern Poverty Law Center, and schools such as the University of Miami School of Communication.
     
    Perhaps the above might account for why the Middlebury mob violence and shutdown don't show up in the NYT Hate column. Presumably the "growing list of partners" would veto any events being included that didn't fit their respective narratives.
    In other words: fake news.
    Sad.

    Pro Publica was brought to you by the execrable Herb and Marion Sandler.

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2484

  34. In the wake of Trump’s win, many signs reading, “Hate Has No Home Here,” began appearing in front of the houses of the more sophisticated Vermonters. It’s an incitement to hate. “If you don’t want Syrians next door, than get out.”

    Our curled darlings may be deprived almost all knowledge, but they can sound out and carry out that message.

  35. @MW
    This ignores what the NYT is. If you just want left-wing propagandizing nonsense, there are a million blogs out there. You can read the Huffington Post or Democratic Underground or ThinkProgress, etc. And all these blogs can also be safely ignored. There is no real value there.

    What is infuriating about the Times, is that it IS a first-rate newspaper. Pages A2-A20 (ignoring headlines and ledes) are the best serious global news coverage in America. The best journalists in the country want to work there, and do. They have intelligent journalists who take reporting seriously, covering much of what really matters in the world, and I don't think any other American news source comes close in terms of completeness and quality.

    But then it is edited by left-wing propagandists. Article selection on the front page is blatantly agenda-driven. Headlines do not meet the journalistic standards of articles. Ledes are re-worked to make tenuous connections, regardless of the more balanced content of the article. Nonsense "features" such as the one highlighted here, are tacked on.

    It's sort of on the old advertising model. Then as now, the high-quality journalism is the content that brings in the eyeballs. But now, instead of using it to sell shoes for money, more and more they sell political propaganda for power and influence.

    Anyway, none of this appears to be changing any time soon. Until Breitbart develops a 1,000-person newsroom doing real journalism, intelligent Americans will continue to read the Times regardless of their political beliefs. It is simply the best single source on foreign policy and domestic politics. There is no real alternative.

    The Wall Street Journal, but outside the opinion pages it’s nearly as hysterically anti-Trump as the Times.

  36. eD says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    This is getting to be like poking fun at Pravda during the Soviet era: endless.

    Since the propaganda coming out of the New York Times has become so predictable, why even bother to read it anymore? Sure, all the informed bastards where I live do, but why should you continue to care?

    They smugly consider themselves well-informed, and they have no idea how deluded they all are.

    Do we really have to continue to treat that publication like something that matters?

    It's helpful to know what the opposition is thinking, but I'm sure you could predict that and just write up a fake NYT equal to the real one.

    But please don't stop. If not for iSteve and my neighbors, I would have no idea at all what is in that paper.

    “Since the propaganda coming out of the New York Times has become so predictable, why even bother to read it anymore? Sure, all the informed bastards where I live do, but why should you continue to care?”

    I haven’t understood why anyone still read the New York Times after they were caught red handed acting as a neocon propaganda outlet during the run-up to the invasion of Iraq. For several years after that, you could still find good articles in the back pages of the paper, especially in the Saturday edition which seems to have been subject to less heavy handed editing than on the other days. But eventually these went away, I suspect as a sufficient mass of good reporters eventually retired or left for other reasons.

  37. @Esso

    Obviously, a man's judgement cannot be better than the information on which he has based it. Give him the truth and he may still go wrong when he has the chance to be right, but give him no news or present him only with distorted and incomplete data, with ignorant, sloppy or biased reporting, with propaganda and deliberate falsehoods, and you destroy his whole reasoning processes, and make him something less than a man.

    Arthur Hays Sulzberger
     

    Just a Pinch couldn’t hurt, could it?

  38. @Gabriel M
    isteve readers may be interested in what happened when two actors did a gender-reversed Trump Hillary debate.

    https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2017/march/trump-clinton-debates-gender-reversal.html

    We heard a lot of “now I understand how this happened”—meaning how Trump won the election. People got upset. There was a guy two rows in front of me who was literally holding his head in his hands, and the person with him was rubbing his back. The simplicity of Trump’s message became easier for people to hear when it was coming from a woman—that was a theme. One person said, “I’m just so struck by how precise Trump’s technique is.” Another—a musical theater composer, actually—said that Trump created “hummable lyrics,” while Clinton talked a lot, and everything she was was true and factual, but there was no “hook” to it. Another theme was about not liking either candidate—you know, “I wouldn’t vote for either one.” Someone said that Jonathan Gordon [the male Hillary Clinton] was “really punchable” because of all the smiling.
     
    The video's kind of cool.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yC7-JsR2Fk

    It’s a bit unfair because the man has a high-pitched voice, which is a real handicap to being taken seriously.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    He may have been attempting to copy Hillary's inflection, as the woman appears to be doing with Trump, but I think that somewhat defeats the purpose of the sex-reversal exercise.
    , @PiltdownMan

    It’s a bit unfair because the man has a high-pitched voice, which is a real handicap to being taken seriously.
     
    People used to take this man very seriously indeed for a decade or more. He was practically the embodiment of Reagan and Clinton era corporate machismo.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwt74Sg96oE
    , @AndrewR
    Relative to the woman, no he doesn't.
    , @Boomstick
    The male actor's prissy affect was at the core of Hillary's candidacy. She was the candidate who was going to make you eat your vegetables, start a compost pile and pledge to NPR, and that can't be separated from the candidate's nature.

    The woman's aggression takes her out of the classic female role.
  39. @Anon
    Octopussy

    http://forward.com/culture/365099/the-secret-jewish-history-of-the-pussyhat/

    I already used my “LOL”! :(

  40. eD says:

    “What is infuriating about the Times, is that it IS a first-rate newspaper. Pages A2-A20 (ignoring headlines and ledes) are the best serious global news coverage in America. The best journalists in the country want to work there, and do. They have intelligent journalists who take reporting seriously, covering much of what really matters in the world, and I don’t think any other American news source comes close in terms of completeness and quality.”

    That used to be the case, but has generally become less so with each year.

    People were saying similar things about the “Wall Street Journal”, sure the editorial page is crazy, but the straight news coverage was excellent. I subscribed to the paper awhile, and my take on this is that the people who said this never actually read the straight news articles. They were always mediocre, though Murdoch did improve things after he bought the paper. Alot of “we just reprint the press release handed to us by the corporate PR department” journalism.

    The real winner in the “globalist rag that prints some excellent articles when it is not doing globalist propaganda” category is “the Economist”, though I haven’t read “the Economist” in awhile either. The “Financial Times”, which I think is owned by the same people, also does a respectable job in this vein.

    • Replies: @Oleaginous Outrager

    The real winner in the “globalist rag that prints some excellent articles when it is not doing globalist propaganda” category is “the Economist”
     
    Like all the globalist organs, the Economist is also getting worse, but they are rather more subtle about it than most. You have to stay sharp to catch some of their pushing of the "let us all join hands and jump" globalist spiel.
    , @Pericles
    I thought The Economist went to hell after they deposed editor Bill Emmott in a palace coup. He was (cough) pro the Iraq war. Well, be that as it may, afterwards there was a strange new respect for EU bureaucracy, etc, which made the whole thing unreadable and increasingly pointless.

    Nowadays, whenever I see it, it's a parody of itself, of course. I did particularly enjoy their article on Pepe.
  41. @snorlax
    It's a bit unfair because the man has a high-pitched voice, which is a real handicap to being taken seriously.

    He may have been attempting to copy Hillary’s inflection, as the woman appears to be doing with Trump, but I think that somewhat defeats the purpose of the sex-reversal exercise.

  42. @eah
    https://twitter.com/ObamaMalik/status/838282745696616448

    What does Obama’s brother care about this internicene Anglo vs. Anglo conflict? I get that he is funny & has a bone to pick with his brother. He is the only black person that seems to “get” what is going on underneath but he has no horse in this race.

  43. This Week in Hate

    The existence of such a column is hilarious. Fake News, sure, but still hilarious.

  44. First they came for the people who were realistic about race, and I did not speak out—
    Because everybody knows how races differ.

    Then they came for the people who were realistic about women, and I did not speak out—
    Because everybody knows men and women are different.

    Then they came for the people who were realistic about sexuality, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was getting scared.

    And after four years they will come for me—and who will be left to speak for me?

  45. @Anon
    OT/ So, remember the pretty girl who was stabbed by Pablo "They" Gomez? Well here is what she is up to: https://archive.is/uQS2n

    Juniper is the embodiment of queer, brown, trans femme excellence. She is one of the most hardworking, resilient, passionate, intelligent, unapologetic, selfless people I know. The amount of love she has for her family, her chosen family, and her communities is unfathomable. She puts in hella work for the Fight4SpacesofColor, Fight4Queer&TransSpaces, the Transfer Community, SEO, the Latinx community, and the queer & trans community––both at Berkeley and at large. She is literally always ready to drop what she's doing to be on the front lines of a protest or direct action, to call someone out on their transphobia/racism/misogyny/cissexism/classism/general bullshit.

    On a personal level, Juniper has been there for me when I was at my lowest––without hesitation––and I am blessed to call her a friend and femme sister. She, of all people, knows full well that this university was never built for us, and although I'm hella cynical of mainstream/partisan politics, I believe that Juniper can and will revolutionize this hellhole of a racist, capitalist, colonial institution (and the world).
     

    They came, they saw, they WON.

    Bow down to your new Overlords:

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    Except for the apparent absence of Jews, James Watt (first Secretary of the Interior under Ronald Reagan; resigned after gently mocking the diversity of some coal leasing panel; look it up, as I don't want to spoil the joke) is surely smiling at this.
  46. @snorlax
    It's a bit unfair because the man has a high-pitched voice, which is a real handicap to being taken seriously.

    It’s a bit unfair because the man has a high-pitched voice, which is a real handicap to being taken seriously.

    People used to take this man very seriously indeed for a decade or more. He was practically the embodiment of Reagan and Clinton era corporate machismo.

  47. Perceived hate trumps actual physical violence in the SJW’s minds, and of course only when they are the assailants.

  48. @MW
    This ignores what the NYT is. If you just want left-wing propagandizing nonsense, there are a million blogs out there. You can read the Huffington Post or Democratic Underground or ThinkProgress, etc. And all these blogs can also be safely ignored. There is no real value there.

    What is infuriating about the Times, is that it IS a first-rate newspaper. Pages A2-A20 (ignoring headlines and ledes) are the best serious global news coverage in America. The best journalists in the country want to work there, and do. They have intelligent journalists who take reporting seriously, covering much of what really matters in the world, and I don't think any other American news source comes close in terms of completeness and quality.

    But then it is edited by left-wing propagandists. Article selection on the front page is blatantly agenda-driven. Headlines do not meet the journalistic standards of articles. Ledes are re-worked to make tenuous connections, regardless of the more balanced content of the article. Nonsense "features" such as the one highlighted here, are tacked on.

    It's sort of on the old advertising model. Then as now, the high-quality journalism is the content that brings in the eyeballs. But now, instead of using it to sell shoes for money, more and more they sell political propaganda for power and influence.

    Anyway, none of this appears to be changing any time soon. Until Breitbart develops a 1,000-person newsroom doing real journalism, intelligent Americans will continue to read the Times regardless of their political beliefs. It is simply the best single source on foreign policy and domestic politics. There is no real alternative.

    “…intelligent Americans will continue to read the Times regardless of their political beliefs. It is simply the best single source on foreign policy and domestic politics. There is no real alternative.”

    This intelligent American stopped reading the NYT and like fake news sources about a decade ago. Anyone who relies on “the best single source” in today’s news rich environment is either not terribly intelligent or intellectually lazy and most certainly ill-informed. I have friends and acquaintances, academics and other members of the intelligentsia, who rely on the NYT (and occasionally its fake news cohorts such as NPR, WaPo, WST, etc.) and are astonishingly ignorant of basic facts and their interpretation, e.g., the steady US escalation of provocations against Russia that began with Clinton’s expansion of NATO and abrogation of the ABM treaty. They become downright terrified when I go off the reservation and confront them with verifiable but inconvenient facts about, e.g., Pizza Gate, that were first reported in the sources they rely on but were later repudiated and expunged from the record by these same sources when these same facts became inconvenient contradictions of the fake news’s various narratives.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  49. On topic, since Middlebury is mentioned in the OP headline: How Middlebury College Enabled The Student Riot During Charles Murray’s Visit. Takeways:

    * In the runup to the riot, President Patton’s defense of Free Speech was tepid.
    * Injured professor Alison Stanger showed sympathy for the drowner-outers, clapping along to one of the “Black Lives Matter!” chants.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Well I feel better now. My sympathy for Stanger has completely evaporated.
  50. @El Dato
    > hella
    > hella

    Are these people cereal? I fully expect blue-dyed hair.

    “Hella” is a hella common term across broad swaths of younger Californians.

  51. @snorlax
    It's a bit unfair because the man has a high-pitched voice, which is a real handicap to being taken seriously.

    Relative to the woman, no he doesn’t.

  52. @Esso

    Obviously, a man's judgement cannot be better than the information on which he has based it. Give him the truth and he may still go wrong when he has the chance to be right, but give him no news or present him only with distorted and incomplete data, with ignorant, sloppy or biased reporting, with propaganda and deliberate falsehoods, and you destroy his whole reasoning processes, and make him something less than a man.

    Arthur Hays Sulzberger
     

    Now I perfectly understand the NYT’s MO

  53. @ic1000
    On topic, since Middlebury is mentioned in the OP headline: How Middlebury College Enabled The Student Riot During Charles Murray’s Visit. Takeways:

    * In the runup to the riot, President Patton's defense of Free Speech was tepid.
    * Injured professor Alison Stanger showed sympathy for the drowner-outers, clapping along to one of the "Black Lives Matter!" chants.

    Well I feel better now. My sympathy for Stanger has completely evaporated.

  54. BTW, here’s a double campus rape hoax at the University of Michigan. One hoaxer claimed that her face was scratched by a Trump supporter – she later admitted to lying and was charged with filing a false police report. The other case involved a (false) claim by a Muslim woman that a man (presumably a Trump supporter) tried to pull off her hijab. She hasn’t been charged (so far). Not much coverage of these disgusting “hate crimes” outside of Michigan.

  55. Well this is the NYT you’re talking about which is hardly a bastion of journalistic standards and for the most is nothing but the mouthpiece for the establishment. So of course they aren’t going to bring such subjects up. It’s more fun just to demonize the dirt people.

    Screw’em.

  56. @snorlax
    It's a bit unfair because the man has a high-pitched voice, which is a real handicap to being taken seriously.

    The male actor’s prissy affect was at the core of Hillary’s candidacy. She was the candidate who was going to make you eat your vegetables, start a compost pile and pledge to NPR, and that can’t be separated from the candidate’s nature.

    The woman’s aggression takes her out of the classic female role.

  57. @Steve Sailer
    I'd say there is a pretty good chance Samuel L. Jackson voted for Trump.

    Did Samuel L. Jackson vote for President Trump? Maybe.

    Did Reginald M. Jackson vote for President Trump? Maybe.

  58. Obviously, a man’s judgement cannot be better than the information on which he has based it. Give him the truth and he may still go wrong when he has the chance to be right, but give him no news or present him only with distorted and incomplete data, with ignorant, sloppy or biased reporting, with propaganda and deliberate falsehoods, and you destroy his whole reasoning processes, and make him something less than a man.

    Arthur Hays Sulzberger

    Something tells me that didn’t start as the NYT’s Mission Statement.

  59. @Yak-15
    I want them to start resettling refugee families in Beverly Hills. Refugee families are large and they could use the mansions. Also, they would be captivated by the truly magic dirt.

    Beverly Hills is already full of immigrants, from the 1979 fall of the Shah. Iranians of various stripes, but mainly Jews, decamped to BH and nearby Westwood south of UCLA, in the area known as Teherangeles. The old school BH residents like Lucille Ball and other stars died out, the end of an era. Maybe Bel Air could take some.

  60. @eah
    This is posted in 'The Opinion Pages', which I guess is a concession to the fact that what is and is not "hate" is subjective -- however they do add "This Week in Hate highlights hate crimes and harassment around the country since the election of President Trump".

    Also the same byline: What It Feels Like When a Mosque Is Threatened -- it's about a mosque in Lexington KY -- now, I'm not in favor of threatening mosques -- but you could perhaps also publish this under 'This Week in Anti-Democracy', since I don't think the residents of Lexington were ever asked if they wanted large numbers of refugees, including muslims, shoved down their throats (at taxpayer expense) -- that's why there is now a mosque in Lexington -- in fact KY generally has been heavily targeted for refugee resettlement: all posts with the tag 'Kentucky' at Refugee Resettlement Watch.

    And the threat came all the way from Sheffield. The Sheffield in England, not Alabamy. The reach of The Trump “hate” machine is long, and its grasp powerful.

  61. @eD
    "What is infuriating about the Times, is that it IS a first-rate newspaper. Pages A2-A20 (ignoring headlines and ledes) are the best serious global news coverage in America. The best journalists in the country want to work there, and do. They have intelligent journalists who take reporting seriously, covering much of what really matters in the world, and I don’t think any other American news source comes close in terms of completeness and quality."

    That used to be the case, but has generally become less so with each year.

    People were saying similar things about the "Wall Street Journal", sure the editorial page is crazy, but the straight news coverage was excellent. I subscribed to the paper awhile, and my take on this is that the people who said this never actually read the straight news articles. They were always mediocre, though Murdoch did improve things after he bought the paper. Alot of "we just reprint the press release handed to us by the corporate PR department" journalism.

    The real winner in the "globalist rag that prints some excellent articles when it is not doing globalist propaganda" category is "the Economist", though I haven't read "the Economist" in awhile either. The "Financial Times", which I think is owned by the same people, also does a respectable job in this vein.

    The real winner in the “globalist rag that prints some excellent articles when it is not doing globalist propaganda” category is “the Economist”

    Like all the globalist organs, the Economist is also getting worse, but they are rather more subtle about it than most. You have to stay sharp to catch some of their pushing of the “let us all join hands and jump” globalist spiel.

  62. @MW
    This ignores what the NYT is. If you just want left-wing propagandizing nonsense, there are a million blogs out there. You can read the Huffington Post or Democratic Underground or ThinkProgress, etc. And all these blogs can also be safely ignored. There is no real value there.

    What is infuriating about the Times, is that it IS a first-rate newspaper. Pages A2-A20 (ignoring headlines and ledes) are the best serious global news coverage in America. The best journalists in the country want to work there, and do. They have intelligent journalists who take reporting seriously, covering much of what really matters in the world, and I don't think any other American news source comes close in terms of completeness and quality.

    But then it is edited by left-wing propagandists. Article selection on the front page is blatantly agenda-driven. Headlines do not meet the journalistic standards of articles. Ledes are re-worked to make tenuous connections, regardless of the more balanced content of the article. Nonsense "features" such as the one highlighted here, are tacked on.

    It's sort of on the old advertising model. Then as now, the high-quality journalism is the content that brings in the eyeballs. But now, instead of using it to sell shoes for money, more and more they sell political propaganda for power and influence.

    Anyway, none of this appears to be changing any time soon. Until Breitbart develops a 1,000-person newsroom doing real journalism, intelligent Americans will continue to read the Times regardless of their political beliefs. It is simply the best single source on foreign policy and domestic politics. There is no real alternative.

    “But now, instead of using it to sell shoes for money, more and more they sell political propaganda for power and influence.”

    That’s a good point. Besides printing fake news, the NYT/WaPo/etc. increasingly have fake readers generated on Chinese click-farms.

    Moving newsprint or making revenue are increasingly irrelevant. NYT and WaPo each have one reader who actually matters: Carlos Slim for NYT and Jeff Bezos for WaPo. The purpose of those newspapers is to please those two readers and to project their views.

    They might be happy if they don’t lose too much money, but that is secondary.

    • Replies: @Desiderius

    Besides printing fake news, the NYT/WaPo/etc. increasingly have fake readers generated on Chinese click-farms.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Souls
  63. @Dumbo
    They came, they saw, they WON.

    Bow down to your new Overlords:

    http://i.imgur.com/nNj3Qo3.jpg

    Except for the apparent absence of Jews, James Watt (first Secretary of the Interior under Ronald Reagan; resigned after gently mocking the diversity of some coal leasing panel; look it up, as I don’t want to spoil the joke) is surely smiling at this.

  64. @Almost Missouri

    "But now, instead of using it to sell shoes for money, more and more they sell political propaganda for power and influence."
     
    That's a good point. Besides printing fake news, the NYT/WaPo/etc. increasingly have fake readers generated on Chinese click-farms.

    Moving newsprint or making revenue are increasingly irrelevant. NYT and WaPo each have one reader who actually matters: Carlos Slim for NYT and Jeff Bezos for WaPo. The purpose of those newspapers is to please those two readers and to project their views.

    They might be happy if they don't lose too much money, but that is secondary.

    Besides printing fake news, the NYT/WaPo/etc. increasingly have fake readers generated on Chinese click-farms.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Souls

  65. @eD
    "What is infuriating about the Times, is that it IS a first-rate newspaper. Pages A2-A20 (ignoring headlines and ledes) are the best serious global news coverage in America. The best journalists in the country want to work there, and do. They have intelligent journalists who take reporting seriously, covering much of what really matters in the world, and I don’t think any other American news source comes close in terms of completeness and quality."

    That used to be the case, but has generally become less so with each year.

    People were saying similar things about the "Wall Street Journal", sure the editorial page is crazy, but the straight news coverage was excellent. I subscribed to the paper awhile, and my take on this is that the people who said this never actually read the straight news articles. They were always mediocre, though Murdoch did improve things after he bought the paper. Alot of "we just reprint the press release handed to us by the corporate PR department" journalism.

    The real winner in the "globalist rag that prints some excellent articles when it is not doing globalist propaganda" category is "the Economist", though I haven't read "the Economist" in awhile either. The "Financial Times", which I think is owned by the same people, also does a respectable job in this vein.

    I thought The Economist went to hell after they deposed editor Bill Emmott in a palace coup. He was (cough) pro the Iraq war. Well, be that as it may, afterwards there was a strange new respect for EU bureaucracy, etc, which made the whole thing unreadable and increasingly pointless.

    Nowadays, whenever I see it, it’s a parody of itself, of course. I did particularly enjoy their article on Pepe.

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