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Screenshot 2016-04-28 20.43.02

The picture above is from an anti-Trump procession going on in the San Fernando Valley that has shut down freeway onramps.

Screenshot 2016-04-28 22.09.04

The San Fernando Valley traffic jams are separate from the car-burning traffic jams going on in Costa Mesa outside the Trump rally, but both events are united by the prevalence of Mexican flags.

Not really terribly smart about their visuals, are they?

Kylie replies:

They don’t have to be smart about their visuals. They’re on the right side of history. They’re who we are.

From the L.A. Times:

Protests rage outside Trump rally in O.C.; roads closed, police car smashed
Ruben Vives and Matt Hamilton

Here’s a short video filmed off KTLA’s live feed of the anti-Trump mob attacking a police car:

https://twitter.com/bakedalaska/status/725904488448446465

Here’s an anti-Trump protester falling off the police car he’s jumping upon:

https://twitter.com/JimDalrympleII/status/725906661055975429

Will they be able to spin this as Trump’s fault?

E.g., How dare the Republican frontrunner hold a political rally in Orange County, of all places!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtKpIKlVXXY

 
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  1. Nothing like recruiting more support for Trump.

    But then no one ever accused Mexicans of being smart.

    • Agree: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Realist
    @Wally

    That's for sure.

    , @Perspective
    @Wally

    Think of how much money Trump is saving by these morons unintentionally campaigning for him.

  2. It depends. The flags might enrage a Trump supporter who then shoots and kills or severely wounds one of the protestors.

    • Agree: Nico
  3. “Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico”

    — Vincente Fox

    • Replies: @Nico
    @Big Bill

    You can take the Mexican out of Mexico, but you can't take Mexico out of the Mexican.

    Of course, that means it would be prudent to start asking how we might put the Mexican BACK into Mexico.

    , @Louis Renault
    @Big Bill

    "Veni, vidi, vici"

    Of course we'll always have legacy guilt.

    , @Anonymous
    @Big Bill

    THIS is not Mexico. The Mexican flag means less than nothing here. If that's want you want to fly then go back to where that flag means something.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Anonymous
    @Big Bill

    Are, people forgetting that they live in that part of America before Europeans did.if, your a citizen of this country, no. Matter where your from your an American.if, not they shouldbe deported back where you came from.

  4. They always used to hand out American flags at the various pro-illegal rallies so as to manage the public’s perceptions even though in fact it meant nothing to those waving it. I guess this is closer to what their real feelings are.

  5. I think that some SJWs, BLM types, and other identity protesters are so certain of their own rightness in opposing “oppression”, “Fascism”, “Trumpism”, or whatever ism they project on those they hate, that they are oblivious to how they are coming across and how they are actually helping the side they oppose.

    Nearly any demonstration that disrupts “business as usual”, which is to say which blocks commuters trying to get home, etc. just pisses off everyone stuck in traffic due to the demonstration. Add Mexican flags to it and it just feeds support for Trump.

    This is not rocket science, but apparently many of these folks do not have a clue.

    • Replies: @Ed
    @Laugh Track

    Laugh Track, there is a history worldwide of self-defeating "protests" being organized by police agitators to discredit opposition political movements. But in this case its unlikely, since the US establishment is pro-immigration. Maybe the target audience is supposed to be in Mexico.

    Replies: @Daniel H, @boogerbently

    , @guest
    @Laugh Track

    About commuters, the Trump is a national candidate and protesters are looking to make national news (among other things), so I don't think it matters.

    , @Anonymous
    @Laugh Track

    Black Lives Matters is being funded by the muslum brohood.

  6. The carbeque has crossed the pond!

    This picture would make a nice backdrop for the words “path to citizenship” in a late-October ad.

    Guillermo Horton, anyone?

    • Agree: Travis
  7. No, not very smart. Mexican flags don’t really resonate with the American voter. It’s almost as if these demonstrators don’t actually know much about things of this sort.

    This is like a classroom lab where we study what it is like to have a median IQ of about 92.5. Conclusion: You don’t really get what other people are thinking because you’re too damn stupid.

    I think Griffe is right: the median IQ has to be above 105 for a group to have any semblence of functionality and civility in the modern world.

    • Agree: AndrewR
  8. Guess they never read How to Win Friends and Influence People.

  9. Reminds me of the Million-Mexican March for immigration “amnesty” a decade ago in Los Angeles, which became a festival of La Raza strutting, taunting, and jeering while waving Mexican flags, almost calculated to brown off the American voters who the marchers were supposedly begging for favors.

  10. La Raza HQ after Univision declares Trump President-Elect in November:

  11. They don’t care about the visuals because they don’t care about America. That is how bad it is.

    I sat next to a Latin American woman- completely pure European by looks – immigrant at dinner the other night. She absolutely admitted the US was a superior place to live, that her country was corrupt and did not work well and the US did work well or at least much better. She hated Trump. I said to her that Latin America really is dumping its poor population on us, and that population would not have an effect on her, or her wealthy husband and it did not directly hurt me but it did hurt the poor workers of the US who have to compete with ever more low end wage earners. And I realized, as I was speaking to her she did not care about poor workers of the US. She did not care about poor workers in her own country! why would she care about them in our country? But she can vote. And she will vote against Trump.

    • Replies: @Ad Victoriam
    @cwhatfuture

    Most Americans have no idea just how incredibly racist the Mexican upper class is, or how their racist mores permeate Mexican society. It's been a number of years since I explored interior Mexico, but I remember that the billboard advertisements (Pasala SUPER!) were ALL gorgeous women with lily white skin. No diversity to be seen .... Why would they not have diversity in such ads? Because it doesn't sell beer.

    Replies: @(((Owen)))

  12. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Not to this extent but similar stuff occurred at the Trump rally in Fort Worth TX. The convention center grounds in downtown were filled mostly with very low key whites and driving around them, circling if you will, were these thuggish Mexican guys revving their trucks engines, honking their horns and brandishing Mexican Flags. Media seemed to be looking at everything else and I never saw coverage of it. Maybe because this was the event where Christie announced his endorsement (VP?), but I don’t think so. It was the most unnerving thing I had seen in a while and it might as well not have happened. Move along. Nothing to see here.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonymous

    the media are a political actor, not neutral at all

  13. I just pray to God that nobody’s arm got grabbed.

    • Agree: Chrisnonymous
  14. Okay, come on, this had to have been coordinated by Trump.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Smitty

    Your an idiot and get used to it #Trump is our next president

  15. Ideally, they would be waving Mexican flags and carrying “Are You Ready for Hillary?” signs.

    • Replies: @JimB
    @Harry Baldwin

    I wonder if those wife-beaters Mexican youths like wearing so much come in six packs at the Dollar Store.

  16. They don’t have to be smart about their visuals. They’re on the right side of history. They’re who we are.

  17. Trump’s at 35 cents on PredictIt: https://www.predictit.org/Market/1234/Who-will-win-the-2016-US-presidential-election

    200 shares will cost you $45 ($70 minus the $25 voucher you can get if you Tweet at PredictIt on Twitter). If Trump wins in November, you’ll get back $180 after PredicIt’s vig. You can throw some of that to Steve as a donation, and then take the rest and meet up with fellow iSteve readers for a high-end steak dinner to celebrate.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Dave Pinsen

    I was a very eager buyer of Trump to win the GOP nomination. The general? I would not buy for more than 25.

    For one thing, Trump is neither spending much of his money, nor trying to raise it. Most of his campaign has been funded by online small donors, but his numbers there are just a fraction of Bernie's.

    Trump can run cheaper than others because he gets so much free media. A presidential campaign however requires THOUSANDS of on-the-ground campaign staff. A big part of their work is keeping volunteers busy, organized, and productive.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anonymous

    , @WowJustWow
    @Dave Pinsen

    I wouldn't expect PredictIt to produce credible odds. They take a 5% cut of your account balance when you cash out. Not of your profit -- your balance. (Although they take 10% of your profit too.) With a fee structure like that, it's not worth attempting any strategy (besides buying and holding until November 8) unless you believe you could make significant returns. So unlike Intrade, it can't function as a credible prediction market.

    (I made about a 40% profit on Intrade during the 2012 election. Luckily I cashed out before all their money went missing. Maybe their CEO climbed to his icy grave on Mount Everest on purpose. I miss that site.)

  18. @Laugh Track
    I think that some SJWs, BLM types, and other identity protesters are so certain of their own rightness in opposing "oppression", "Fascism", "Trumpism", or whatever ism they project on those they hate, that they are oblivious to how they are coming across and how they are actually helping the side they oppose.

    Nearly any demonstration that disrupts "business as usual", which is to say which blocks commuters trying to get home, etc. just pisses off everyone stuck in traffic due to the demonstration. Add Mexican flags to it and it just feeds support for Trump.

    This is not rocket science, but apparently many of these folks do not have a clue.

    Replies: @Ed, @guest, @Anonymous

    Laugh Track, there is a history worldwide of self-defeating “protests” being organized by police agitators to discredit opposition political movements. But in this case its unlikely, since the US establishment is pro-immigration. Maybe the target audience is supposed to be in Mexico.

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    @Ed

    >>>Laugh Track, there is a history worldwide of self-defeating “protests” being organized by police agitators to discredit opposition political movements. But in this case its unlikely, since the US establishment is pro-immigration.

    One sure sign that the demonstration is an authentic Mexican expression and not a setup by Trumpsters is the presence of the chubby dude selling Mexican kewpie dolls and other knick-knacks in the top photo. Whenever there are more than 10 Mexicans gathered together anywhere those guys always appear selling their wares. That's just a detail that would elude anybody in America's political class because they stay as far away from Mexicans as they possibly can, Trumpsters included.

    , @boogerbently
    @Ed

    The establishment is pro-immigration, the police are not.

  19. Demography is destiny. How does it feel ? Knowing that you have lost and set at the mercy of those you continually degrade?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Tiny Duck

    If these people feel 'continually degraded'

    Then just why the HELL do they *voluntarily choose* to impose band invite themselves - against the wishes and opinions of the 'degraders' - in the land of the degraders.

    Answer me that, you duplicitous fraud.

    , @Zed, Lord of the Brutals
    @Tiny Duck

    How does it feel?

    It feels like recoil.

    , @Difference Maker
    @Tiny Duck

    The future belongs to us

    , @bomag
    @Tiny Duck


    those you continually degrade
     
    The degradation is self-inflicted. They, like you, make no positive contribution to the culture. Few want them here, and no one will miss them when they are gone. They are mainly agitating out of the fear that someone will cut the rate of growth of their government funded benefits. The bought-and-paid-for media will never put a microphone in one of these protester's faces and get a quote, which will just be a variation on the theme of "kill the Gringo".
    , @Threecranes
    @Tiny Duck

    "I [we] have not yet begun to fight" [back]. John Paul Jones

    You may try to swamp us with sheer numbers but remember; a disciplined band of well-organized, intelligent fighters will put to rout a disorganized rabble every time and every where. Remember the march of the Greek 10,000!

    On white European is worth fifty sweatbacks in a fight. One day you will be marched back across the desert border in chains and we shall see how you celebrate then.

    Mexico for Mexicans. America for Americans. My grandfather fought the cowardly Pancho Villa and hopefully, my grandchildren will fight yours. We could never bring Villa to battle because he ran around like the coward Mexicans males are, avoiding a direct confrontation at all costs. What a pathetic "hero" you blustering loudmouths worship.

    Chicano Go Home! (and take your fat women with you)

    , @Forbes
    @Tiny Duck

    Declaring victory is no different than declaring the debate is over, or the science is settled--reality is rarely accommodating to smug assertions. The need to do so is an indication of weakness.

    , @syonredux
    @Tiny Duck


    Knowing that you have lost and set at the mercy of those you continually degrade?
     
    MMM, is it possible to "degrade" a Mexican Mestizo?You know, bearing in mind the fact that Mexican is a synonym for mediocrity?

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @dumpstersquirrel
    @Tiny Duck

    "Knowing that you have lost and set [sic] at the mercy of those you continually degrade?"

    The word you're looking for is "sit," but the voice recognition on your White-invented smartphone got it wrong and your IQ is too low to catch the error.

    Welcome to the current year.

    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    @Tiny Duck

    I'm reminded of Mencken's observation of the arabs, who he said "breed like flies but die in the same way."

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Tiny Duck

    I am sorry, I thought you were a serious troll. I should have noticed that no troll would pick Dick Suck as their name. Instead, I now discover you are a false flag operator. But do you really think you need to be the megaphone that amplifies the stupidity of the left to achieve the result you desire (but supposedly oppose)?

    When the dam bursts you may regret fanning the nationalist, nativist, middle-finger-to-the-elites-faction flames. The horse you rode in on might be up to its bridle in blood. And if you fall off you'll drown in the pool you worked so hard to create.

  20. Steve,
    It’s not about being ‘no terribly smart’ but more like being ‘not terribly inhibited’ about showing your true plans and feelings.

    There is a difference.

    • Replies: @RamonaQ
    @Anonymous

    Exactly. These people were doing a victory dance on California's corpse.

    It made me really sad because it was a reminder that the battle has already been lost regardless of what happens in November.

    The Eastern European communists didn't do anything half has bad as what the cultural marxists have done. They left their countries essentially the same as before and after communism fell they hated it and never wanted to go back to it. Sounds like a good deal to me.

  21. Not really terribly smart about their visuals, are they?

    Or, maybe they just don’t care, because they know nothing’s going to happen to them, and the odds that anything’s going to change are still pretty slim.

    • Replies: @Boomstick
    @anon

    A quick look at the LA Times and OC Register web sites show most of the pictures that show Mexican flags have been scrubbed. They did own up to most of the protesters being late-teens/early 20's Latinos.

    Replies: @officious intermeddler

  22. @Dave Pinsen
    Trump's at 35 cents on PredictIt: https://www.predictit.org/Market/1234/Who-will-win-the-2016-US-presidential-election

    200 shares will cost you $45 ($70 minus the $25 voucher you can get if you Tweet at PredictIt on Twitter). If Trump wins in November, you'll get back $180 after PredicIt's vig. You can throw some of that to Steve as a donation, and then take the rest and meet up with fellow iSteve readers for a high-end steak dinner to celebrate.

    Replies: @Lot, @WowJustWow

    I was a very eager buyer of Trump to win the GOP nomination. The general? I would not buy for more than 25.

    For one thing, Trump is neither spending much of his money, nor trying to raise it. Most of his campaign has been funded by online small donors, but his numbers there are just a fraction of Bernie’s.

    Trump can run cheaper than others because he gets so much free media. A presidential campaign however requires THOUSANDS of on-the-ground campaign staff. A big part of their work is keeping volunteers busy, organized, and productive.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Lot

    I tried to buy him to win the nomination when he dropped to 45 cents, but PredictIt said the contract was maxed out. I'm long Trump for the general at 29 cents. I don't know if we'll see him below 30 cents before November.

    , @Anonymous
    @Lot

    Does he not do these essential organizational steps because he is a very bad business manager? What could be his excuse?

  23. @cwhatfuture
    They don't care about the visuals because they don't care about America. That is how bad it is.

    I sat next to a Latin American woman- completely pure European by looks - immigrant at dinner the other night. She absolutely admitted the US was a superior place to live, that her country was corrupt and did not work well and the US did work well or at least much better. She hated Trump. I said to her that Latin America really is dumping its poor population on us, and that population would not have an effect on her, or her wealthy husband and it did not directly hurt me but it did hurt the poor workers of the US who have to compete with ever more low end wage earners. And I realized, as I was speaking to her she did not care about poor workers of the US. She did not care about poor workers in her own country! why would she care about them in our country? But she can vote. And she will vote against Trump.

    Replies: @Ad Victoriam

    Most Americans have no idea just how incredibly racist the Mexican upper class is, or how their racist mores permeate Mexican society. It’s been a number of years since I explored interior Mexico, but I remember that the billboard advertisements (Pasala SUPER!) were ALL gorgeous women with lily white skin. No diversity to be seen …. Why would they not have diversity in such ads? Because it doesn’t sell beer.

    • Replies: @(((Owen)))
    @Ad Victoriam


    billboard advertisements (Pasala SUPER!) were ALL gorgeous women with lily white skin.
     
    Google "Lady 100 Pesos."

    You'll love it. Really. Mexico's number one new celebrity.

    Replies: @(((Owen)))

  24. @Harry Baldwin
    Ideally, they would be waving Mexican flags and carrying "Are You Ready for Hillary?" signs.

    Replies: @JimB

    I wonder if those wife-beaters Mexican youths like wearing so much come in six packs at the Dollar Store.

  25. @Ed
    @Laugh Track

    Laugh Track, there is a history worldwide of self-defeating "protests" being organized by police agitators to discredit opposition political movements. But in this case its unlikely, since the US establishment is pro-immigration. Maybe the target audience is supposed to be in Mexico.

    Replies: @Daniel H, @boogerbently

    >>>Laugh Track, there is a history worldwide of self-defeating “protests” being organized by police agitators to discredit opposition political movements. But in this case its unlikely, since the US establishment is pro-immigration.

    One sure sign that the demonstration is an authentic Mexican expression and not a setup by Trumpsters is the presence of the chubby dude selling Mexican kewpie dolls and other knick-knacks in the top photo. Whenever there are more than 10 Mexicans gathered together anywhere those guys always appear selling their wares. That’s just a detail that would elude anybody in America’s political class because they stay as far away from Mexicans as they possibly can, Trumpsters included.

  26. Someone (possibly a Trump supporter) doing donuts around protesters

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin


    Here’s a short video filmed off KTLA’s live feed of the anti-Trump mob attacking a police car
     
    PILOT #1
    We're over the village right now.
    I think I see a vehicle down in the courtyard.
    I'm gonna check it out.

    KILGORE
    Well done, Hawks. Well done.
    Want some twenty-Mike-Mike-Vulcan right along those bean-lines.
    Ripple the shit out of them.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    , @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin
    @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin

    From another angle:
    https://youtu.be/bME3hbBBphM


    Also I'm not really that sure that they are a Trump supporter as people are alleging.

    Replies: @anon

    , @5371
    @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin

    None of them was ready to step up and take one for the team!

    , @Ron Mexico
    @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin

    LMAO, thanks for the video share. went to youtube to check out comments and the first one was very iSteveish: goodwinep10 hours ago
    Trump has the power to even summon the ghost of Paul Walker!!

  27. @Tiny Duck
    Demography is destiny. How does it feel ? Knowing that you have lost and set at the mercy of those you continually degrade?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Zed, Lord of the Brutals, @Difference Maker, @bomag, @Threecranes, @Forbes, @syonredux, @dumpstersquirrel, @Malcolm X-Lax, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    If these people feel ‘continually degraded’

    Then just why the HELL do they *voluntarily choose* to impose band invite themselves – against the wishes and opinions of the ‘degraders’ – in the land of the degraders.

    Answer me that, you duplicitous fraud.

  28. @anon
    Not really terribly smart about their visuals, are they?

    Or, maybe they just don't care, because they know nothing's going to happen to them, and the odds that anything's going to change are still pretty slim.

    Replies: @Boomstick

    A quick look at the LA Times and OC Register web sites show most of the pictures that show Mexican flags have been scrubbed. They did own up to most of the protesters being late-teens/early 20’s Latinos.

    • Replies: @officious intermeddler
    @Boomstick

    Here's a link to the LA Times story: not a single Mexican flag to be seen, just a huge picture of an obviously Mexican protester draped in the American flag.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-gays-for-trump-crowd-gathers-at-costa-mesa-rally-20160428-story.html

    Replies: @I.W., @Jim Don Bob, @officious intermeddler

  29. @Lot
    @Dave Pinsen

    I was a very eager buyer of Trump to win the GOP nomination. The general? I would not buy for more than 25.

    For one thing, Trump is neither spending much of his money, nor trying to raise it. Most of his campaign has been funded by online small donors, but his numbers there are just a fraction of Bernie's.

    Trump can run cheaper than others because he gets so much free media. A presidential campaign however requires THOUSANDS of on-the-ground campaign staff. A big part of their work is keeping volunteers busy, organized, and productive.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anonymous

    I tried to buy him to win the nomination when he dropped to 45 cents, but PredictIt said the contract was maxed out. I’m long Trump for the general at 29 cents. I don’t know if we’ll see him below 30 cents before November.

  30. Since 1960, the nation’s Latino population has increased nearly ninefold, from 6.3 million then to 55.3 million by 2014. It is projected to grow to 119 million by 2060, according to the latest projections from the U.S. Census Bureau (2014). The foreign-born Latino population has increased by more than 20 times over the past half century, from less than 1 million in 1960 to 19.3 million in 2014. On the other hand, while the U.S.-born Latino population has only increased sixfold over this time period, there are about 30 million more U.S.-born Latinos in the U.S. today (35.9 million) than there were in 1960 (5.5 million).

    Mexican-origin Hispanics have always been the largest Hispanic-origin group in the U.S. In 1860, for example, among the 155,000 Hispanics living in the U.S., 81.1% were of Mexican origin—a historic high. Since then the origins of the nation’s Hispanic population have diversified as growing numbers of immigrants from other Latin American nations and Puerto Rico settled in the U.S. For example, between 1930 and 1980, Hispanics from places other than Mexico nearly doubled their representation among U.S. Hispanics, from 22.4% to 40.6%. But with the arrival of large numbers of Mexican immigrants in the 1980s and 1990s, the Mexican share among Hispanics grew, rising to a recent peak of 65.7% in 2008 and staying about steady since then.

    http://www.pewhispanic.org/2016/04/19/statistical-portrait-of-hispanics-in-the-united-states-key-charts/

    Hispanics are the youngest major racial or ethnic group in the United States. About one-third, or 17.9 million, of the nation’s Hispanic population is younger than 18, and about a quarter, or 14.6 million, of all Hispanics are Millennials (ages 18 to 33 in 2014), according to a Pew Research Center analysis of U.S. Census Bureau data. Altogether, nearly six-in-ten Hispanics are Millennials or younger

    By comparison, half of the black population and 46% of the U.S. Asian population are Millennials or younger. 1 Among whites, the nation’s oldest racial group, only about four-in-ten are Millennials or younger (39%).

    Nearly two-thirds of Hispanic Millennials are of Mexican origin. Some 16% are of Caribbean Hispanic origin groups, including 9% who are Puerto Rican. One-in-ten are of Central American origin, including 4% who are Salvadoran. And 6% are of South American origin, including 2% who are Colombian.

    http://www.pewhispanic.org/2016/04/20/the-nations-latino-population-is-defined-by-its-youth/

  31. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    OT.

    In England right now there is a great big rumpus concerning that nasty old Trot of a Labour former London mayor and MP, Ken Livingstone, and accusations of ‘antisemitism’.
    Basically, Livingstone, rather astonishingly, described Adolf Hitler as a ‘Zionist’.

    As some background, Livingstone got into this mess by defending one Naz Shah, a female Pakistani MP – representing Bradford, naturally, – who tweeted that ‘Jews should be paid money to vacate Israel and relocate to the USA’ -. The irony of a Pakistani living on British soil making such a remark apparently escaped her.

    Anyhow, as the Labour Party more and more relies in the immigrant vote, and thus panders to islamists, this sort of thing will get more common. Labour MPs will more or less openly denounce Israel – and Jews as a people – to garner the massive and rapidly growing Muslim vote. Ironically, British Jews were the leading supporters of the criminalization of opposition to massive third world immigration into Britain. Some, such as the truly odious Jonathan Ported, were architects of shitty New Labour’s open door policy of massive uncontrolled immigration.

    Surely, there’s a moral or two here.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous

    The Daily Mail headline used the word "transportation". Few Americans know how loaded that term is in the rest of the Anglosphere. They ain't talkin' about the tram!

    Replies: @a Newsreader

    , @V Vega
    @Anonymous

    "Basically, Livingstone, rather astonishingly, described Adolf Hitler as a ‘Zionist’."

    While not exactly the case, it's not that astonishing, since it's been fairly well documented that Hitler was cooperating to establish Israel with certain Zionist factions.

    Here's a link of a news report when the book that explained "The Transfer Agreement" was published. The author was Jewish, and his parents were appalled:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8_bFF8c-Jk

    Here's a more recent interview on cspan with the author:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-SC9DFopGw

    The facts as related in the book tends to upset some people, particularly some jewish people, since apparently the prime directive of managing information on the jewish holocaust is that one can never imply that jews, collectively, or individually, might have inadvertently "brought it on themselves," as well as the notion that Hitler had 101 problems, and the jews were only one of them, rather than casting jews as an irresistible scapegoat whom Hitler wanted to expel from the planet in short order regardless of the consequences.

    In any case, Livingston is overreaching the limits of the truth, when referring to Hitler as a Zionist simply because Hitler cooperated with Zionists to establish Israel–but he's not hallucinating.

    I would conclude that jewish leadership was so fractured at the time, that initiating the agreement became impossible. Not necessarily anybody's fault, it's just the way the dice rolled at that time. If you believe timing is everything in political discourse, the timing was bad for the Transfer Agreement to work.

    The book is available on Amazon.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @anon
    @Anonymous

    Livingstone was referring to the Haavara agreement

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

    but you're right this stuff spilling out is a result of the growing Muslim vote.

    , @Anonymous Nephew
    @Anonymous

    The ironic thing is that Naz Shah was elected in a contest against the previous MP George Galloway, even more pro-Palestinian.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradford_West_by-election,_2012

    I remember Labour Party activists who'd been bused in from whiter parts to campaign against Galloway (in the previous election) were bemused to find that to campaign door to door in much of Bradford you need to be fluent in Urdu or Punjabi.

    , @Flip
    @Anonymous

    Paul Craig Roberts said Israeli Jews should be given US citizenship and leave Israel and that would solve the problem. I'd rather live in Westchester County than Israel myself.

    Replies: @syonredux, @anon

    , @Bill
    @Anonymous


    Livingstone, rather astonishingly, described Adolf Hitler as a ‘Zionist’.
     
    And as if that wasn't bad enough, he followed up by claiming that the sun rises in the East!!!1!

    British Jews were the leading supporters of the criminalization of opposition to massive third world immigration . . . Surely, there’s a moral or two here.
     
    You mean, like, it's a really bad idea to delegate a country's propaganda machine to a hostile minority?
  32. @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin
    Someone (possibly a Trump supporter) doing donuts around protesters
    https://youtu.be/nXpJXKCUiHc

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin, @5371, @Ron Mexico

    Here’s a short video filmed off KTLA’s live feed of the anti-Trump mob attacking a police car

    PILOT #1
    We’re over the village right now.
    I think I see a vehicle down in the courtyard.
    I’m gonna check it out.

    KILGORE
    Well done, Hawks. Well done.
    Want some twenty-Mike-Mike-Vulcan right along those bean-lines.
    Ripple the shit out of them.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    PILOT #1
    We’re over the village right now.
    I think I see a vehicle down in the courtyard.
    I’m gonna check it out.

    KILGORE
    Well done, Hawks. Well done.
    Want some twenty-Mike-Mike-Vulcan right along those bean-lines.
    Ripple the shit out of them.
     
    Get ya a case of beer for that one.
  33. Wow. The video of those hispanics amassing and converging on a pickup truck waiting at a stop light was terrifying. Imagine if there were kids in that truck. Jesus.

    Those were some big fat skank lookin’ dudes. They weren’t like your average hispanic in California. Those were foreign-born hood rats. They looked fresh out of the rio grande. Not that long ago, it would be inconceivable that illegal aliens would actually riot in the streets of Costa fucking Mesa.

    I remember when Costa Mesa was a nice, indescript little town. Nothing remotely of the kind ever went on there. Just horrendous.

    From this day forward, before retiring, I will pray each night for Obama to suffer a stroke, leaving him without the memory of the english language, nor the ability to relearn it, so the rest of his wretched days are spent screaming at Michelle in guttural spanish.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    @V Vega

    Obama no habla Espanol.

    But megadittoes on the stroke. Maybe he will speak Indonesian or Arabic. Or whatever.

    , @Jefferson
    @V Vega

    "Those were some big fat skank lookin’ dudes. They weren’t like your average hispanic in California. Those were foreign-born hood rats. They looked fresh out of the rio grande."

    Than you obviously do not live in California. The obesity rate is quite high anong American born Hispanics in California. Tons of fat skank lookin gorditos and gorditas among Hispanic anchor babies in California.

    Replies: @Bill

  34. @Anonymous
    OT.

    In England right now there is a great big rumpus concerning that nasty old Trot of a Labour former London mayor and MP, Ken Livingstone, and accusations of 'antisemitism'.
    Basically, Livingstone, rather astonishingly, described Adolf Hitler as a 'Zionist'.

    As some background, Livingstone got into this mess by defending one Naz Shah, a female Pakistani MP - representing Bradford, naturally, - who tweeted that 'Jews should be paid money to vacate Israel and relocate to the USA' -. The irony of a Pakistani living on British soil making such a remark apparently escaped her.

    Anyhow, as the Labour Party more and more relies in the immigrant vote, and thus panders to islamists, this sort of thing will get more common. Labour MPs will more or less openly denounce Israel - and Jews as a people - to garner the massive and rapidly growing Muslim vote. Ironically, British Jews were the leading supporters of the criminalization of opposition to massive third world immigration into Britain. Some, such as the truly odious Jonathan Ported, were architects of shitty New Labour's open door policy of massive uncontrolled immigration.

    Surely, there's a moral or two here.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @V Vega, @anon, @Anonymous Nephew, @Flip, @Bill

    The Daily Mail headline used the word “transportation”. Few Americans know how loaded that term is in the rest of the Anglosphere. They ain’t talkin’ about the tram!

    • Replies: @a Newsreader
    @Reg Cæsar

    Could you please explain?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  35. In Mexico there is a constant series of marches, demonstrations, parades, and protesters showing the public their attachment to one cause or another. It blocks busses and car traffic. Most days you can depend on the public transit but if there’s a manifestación you’re going nowhere.

    The Mexico City Metro avoids the trouble, of course. It’s the best way to get across town anyway.

    It might be the losing party in an election, the electrical workers’ union, the march for rights of women or indigenous people, students protesting something, or anything else. It’s just a part of the fabric of Mexican life that you show dissatisfaction by marching through town at rush hour.

    I don’t find it charming and would prefer the authorities put a stop to it. I do get a little schadenfreude when the rich and heavily subsidized car drivers get stuck and we Metro riders have an easy time.

    And sometimes the marchers are just tone deaf enough to march in the USA with Mexican flags. I don’t expect Americans will like it much as this practice grows and grows. But as there aren’t any Mexicans to speak of in swing states, it won’t affect the November results.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @(((Owen)))

    "But as there aren’t any Mexicans to speak of in swing states, it won’t affect the November results."

    Colorado and Nevada are swing states with yuge Mexican populations.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @carol

    , @Thea
    @(((Owen)))

    It happens in Ecuador a lot, too.

  36. @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin
    Someone (possibly a Trump supporter) doing donuts around protesters
    https://youtu.be/nXpJXKCUiHc

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin, @5371, @Ron Mexico

    From another angle:

    Also I’m not really that sure that they are a Trump supporter as people are alleging.

    • Replies: @anon
    @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin

    I was suspicious at first - media blaming the Trumpenwehr as usual - but i don't know now, looking at a lot of different angles i think he was pretty angry at the crowd so could be. Maybe one of them keyed his car or something.

    already got a soundtrack

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lisJovuISpc

    werewolf is coming unless the bad guys back off

  37. @Ad Victoriam
    @cwhatfuture

    Most Americans have no idea just how incredibly racist the Mexican upper class is, or how their racist mores permeate Mexican society. It's been a number of years since I explored interior Mexico, but I remember that the billboard advertisements (Pasala SUPER!) were ALL gorgeous women with lily white skin. No diversity to be seen .... Why would they not have diversity in such ads? Because it doesn't sell beer.

    Replies: @(((Owen)))

    billboard advertisements (Pasala SUPER!) were ALL gorgeous women with lily white skin.

    Google “Lady 100 Pesos.”

    You’ll love it. Really. Mexico’s number one new celebrity.

    • Replies: @(((Owen)))
    @(((Owen)))

    op subject on Mexican social media this week. Lady 100 Pesos.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKRA1Q7sZCQ

    Replies: @bomag, @Bill

  38. One of the most redeeming qualities of Trump is his enemies. He is so terribly fortunate in his enemies.

    I find Trump very distasteful and embarrassing, but when I see his enemies, my urge to vote for the man increases exponentially.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    @Twinkie

    "One of the most redeeming qualities of Trump is his enemies. He is so terribly fortunate in his enemies."

    Once big money and big media go against him, it won't be no advantage.

    "I find Trump very distasteful and embarrassing, but when I see his enemies, my urge to vote for the man increases exponentially."

    I don't like his extreme posturing on Mexicans and Muslims --- easy targets in US ---, but I love his style. No, it's not presidential, but that died with Bush I. Dignity died forever with Lewinsky, Bush II's clown act, and Obama celebrity trash act.

    We must drop the pretense of dignity in politics.
    I mean in a nation where homo and tranny stuff constitute main moral issue... oy vey.

    Trump is like Andrew Jackson. He is the man without grace stoking populist passion against a new elite that has become downright oligarchal.

    But in the end, I think Trump will betray his supporters.
    Why? Cuz he's sly. Also, Cuz he won't be able to do much even if he wanted to.

    It's like Japan when the western boats came. Tokugawa regime was challenged and overthrown for failing to protect Japan from foreigners. The new elites promised pride and protection. But they realized they couldn't do anything to stave off foreigners either. They had to cut a deal with the western powers, the very thing the Tokugawa had been pressured to do.

    The ONLY WAY there will be fundamental change is IF Trump mentions Jewish power.
    Won't happen. He will just put all blame on mex, muslim, and chiner.

    Replies: @(((Owen))), @Anonymous

    , @dumpstersquirrel
    @Twinkie

    "One of the most redeeming qualities of Trump is his enemies. He is so terribly fortunate in his enemies."

    Megadittos.

    , @Anonymous
    @Twinkie

    My feelings exactly. Trump's enemies are impressively loathsome.

  39. Priss Factor [AKA "Polly Perkins"] says:

    diversity sure is great for the democratic process

    I wonder what the media would say if white trumpers did this to democratic rallies.

    They would say it’s a violation of civil rights, taking away right to take part in electoral process.

  40. @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin
    Someone (possibly a Trump supporter) doing donuts around protesters
    https://youtu.be/nXpJXKCUiHc

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin, @5371, @Ron Mexico

    None of them was ready to step up and take one for the team!

  41. Priss Factor [AKA "Polly Perkins"] says:
    @Twinkie
    One of the most redeeming qualities of Trump is his enemies. He is so terribly fortunate in his enemies.

    I find Trump very distasteful and embarrassing, but when I see his enemies, my urge to vote for the man increases exponentially.

    Replies: @Priss Factor, @dumpstersquirrel, @Anonymous

    “One of the most redeeming qualities of Trump is his enemies. He is so terribly fortunate in his enemies.”

    Once big money and big media go against him, it won’t be no advantage.

    “I find Trump very distasteful and embarrassing, but when I see his enemies, my urge to vote for the man increases exponentially.”

    I don’t like his extreme posturing on Mexicans and Muslims — easy targets in US —, but I love his style. No, it’s not presidential, but that died with Bush I. Dignity died forever with Lewinsky, Bush II’s clown act, and Obama celebrity trash act.

    We must drop the pretense of dignity in politics.
    I mean in a nation where homo and tranny stuff constitute main moral issue… oy vey.

    Trump is like Andrew Jackson. He is the man without grace stoking populist passion against a new elite that has become downright oligarchal.

    But in the end, I think Trump will betray his supporters.
    Why? Cuz he’s sly. Also, Cuz he won’t be able to do much even if he wanted to.

    It’s like Japan when the western boats came. Tokugawa regime was challenged and overthrown for failing to protect Japan from foreigners. The new elites promised pride and protection. But they realized they couldn’t do anything to stave off foreigners either. They had to cut a deal with the western powers, the very thing the Tokugawa had been pressured to do.

    The ONLY WAY there will be fundamental change is IF Trump mentions Jewish power.
    Won’t happen. He will just put all blame on mex, muslim, and chiner.

    • Replies: @(((Owen)))
    @Priss Factor

    Anti-Semitic losers can please go away forever before you ruin any more countries.

    How'd that work for you ******es in Germany? There's a country with a future.

    Replies: @anon

    , @Anonymous
    @Priss Factor


    I don’t like his extreme posturing on Mexicans and Muslims — easy targets in US —, but I love his style. No, it’s not presidential, but that died with Bush I. Dignity died forever with Lewinsky, Bush II’s clown act, and Obama celebrity trash act.
     
    As Dennis Miller pointed out, what counts as Presidential? Like Obama saying "the police acted stupidly" when they arrested a black Harvard professor in Cambridge, MA?
  42. @Lot
    @Dave Pinsen

    I was a very eager buyer of Trump to win the GOP nomination. The general? I would not buy for more than 25.

    For one thing, Trump is neither spending much of his money, nor trying to raise it. Most of his campaign has been funded by online small donors, but his numbers there are just a fraction of Bernie's.

    Trump can run cheaper than others because he gets so much free media. A presidential campaign however requires THOUSANDS of on-the-ground campaign staff. A big part of their work is keeping volunteers busy, organized, and productive.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anonymous

    Does he not do these essential organizational steps because he is a very bad business manager? What could be his excuse?

  43. I think it’s a mistake to build the wall where the border currently stands. It’s impossible to defend. We should mirror what the Israelis have done in Palestine and push the Mexicans into the area east of Coatzacoalcos and build a new cheaper, better border at the choke point running south of there. It’s a much gentler solution than using Panama as the choke point.

    • Replies: @(((Owen)))
    @Anonym

    The Isthmus of Tehuantepec is a terrible place to build a wall. They couldn't even build a road across it until the 1920s and it wasn't reliable in rainy seasons for decades after that. It was the shortest, lowest route the Panama Canal could have crossed but the terrain was too hostile to any kind of construction and it couldn't be done.

    The problem -- now that malaria has been driven out -- is porous, rocky, wet ground that won't hold construction. Then there's the hot steamy and very rainy weather wearing down the rock and any kind of structure. The bugs and mangrove type growth are awful.

    No. It's a terrible place for anything, including a wall.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anonym

    , @Boomstick
    @Anonym

    I blame Nicholas Trist, who botched the treaty that ended the Mexican-American war. A border that runs from roughly Big Bend, TX, to the Gulf of California, plus a US Baja California, would have shortened the current border by 500 miles. It would have been mostly desert and away from population centers, too.

    Plus it would have gained the secured the crucial surfing grounds of Baja for the US.

    Replies: @Anonym

  44. @(((Owen)))
    @Ad Victoriam


    billboard advertisements (Pasala SUPER!) were ALL gorgeous women with lily white skin.
     
    Google "Lady 100 Pesos."

    You'll love it. Really. Mexico's number one new celebrity.

    Replies: @(((Owen)))

    op subject on Mexican social media this week. Lady 100 Pesos.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @(((Owen)))

    Since when has one been able to video Mexican police in action? There must be a quadjillion hours of bribe-taking and suspect beating in the vault.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Bill
    @(((Owen)))

    Coarse features, big thighs, repulsive personality: what's not to like? Give her ten years, and she'll look like Jabe's wife.

    On the upside, Mexican cop attire is so cool. I dig the kevlar vest worn outside the shirt. Even more, I dig that mystery-fabric light sweater with the Sam Browne belt. They need better hats, though. If they would pair their current uniform with something really cool like PA State Trooper hats, that would be the absolute bomb. Actually, that picture does not do it justice, most troopers wear the chin strap under their lower lip . . . ah, like this.

    Replies: @(((Owen)))

  45. @Anonymous
    OT.

    In England right now there is a great big rumpus concerning that nasty old Trot of a Labour former London mayor and MP, Ken Livingstone, and accusations of 'antisemitism'.
    Basically, Livingstone, rather astonishingly, described Adolf Hitler as a 'Zionist'.

    As some background, Livingstone got into this mess by defending one Naz Shah, a female Pakistani MP - representing Bradford, naturally, - who tweeted that 'Jews should be paid money to vacate Israel and relocate to the USA' -. The irony of a Pakistani living on British soil making such a remark apparently escaped her.

    Anyhow, as the Labour Party more and more relies in the immigrant vote, and thus panders to islamists, this sort of thing will get more common. Labour MPs will more or less openly denounce Israel - and Jews as a people - to garner the massive and rapidly growing Muslim vote. Ironically, British Jews were the leading supporters of the criminalization of opposition to massive third world immigration into Britain. Some, such as the truly odious Jonathan Ported, were architects of shitty New Labour's open door policy of massive uncontrolled immigration.

    Surely, there's a moral or two here.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @V Vega, @anon, @Anonymous Nephew, @Flip, @Bill

    “Basically, Livingstone, rather astonishingly, described Adolf Hitler as a ‘Zionist’.”

    While not exactly the case, it’s not that astonishing, since it’s been fairly well documented that Hitler was cooperating to establish Israel with certain Zionist factions.

    Here’s a link of a news report when the book that explained “The Transfer Agreement” was published. The author was Jewish, and his parents were appalled:

    Here’s a more recent interview on cspan with the author:

    The facts as related in the book tends to upset some people, particularly some jewish people, since apparently the prime directive of managing information on the jewish holocaust is that one can never imply that jews, collectively, or individually, might have inadvertently “brought it on themselves,” as well as the notion that Hitler had 101 problems, and the jews were only one of them, rather than casting jews as an irresistible scapegoat whom Hitler wanted to expel from the planet in short order regardless of the consequences.

    In any case, Livingston is overreaching the limits of the truth, when referring to Hitler as a Zionist simply because Hitler cooperated with Zionists to establish Israel–but he’s not hallucinating.

    I would conclude that jewish leadership was so fractured at the time, that initiating the agreement became impossible. Not necessarily anybody’s fault, it’s just the way the dice rolled at that time. If you believe timing is everything in political discourse, the timing was bad for the Transfer Agreement to work.

    The book is available on Amazon.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @V Vega

    Another well kept secret is this:

    A number of Jewish German groups in fact were supportive of the Nuremberg Laws. They had a certain harmony with Judaism's central theme of segregation.

  46. @Priss Factor
    @Twinkie

    "One of the most redeeming qualities of Trump is his enemies. He is so terribly fortunate in his enemies."

    Once big money and big media go against him, it won't be no advantage.

    "I find Trump very distasteful and embarrassing, but when I see his enemies, my urge to vote for the man increases exponentially."

    I don't like his extreme posturing on Mexicans and Muslims --- easy targets in US ---, but I love his style. No, it's not presidential, but that died with Bush I. Dignity died forever with Lewinsky, Bush II's clown act, and Obama celebrity trash act.

    We must drop the pretense of dignity in politics.
    I mean in a nation where homo and tranny stuff constitute main moral issue... oy vey.

    Trump is like Andrew Jackson. He is the man without grace stoking populist passion against a new elite that has become downright oligarchal.

    But in the end, I think Trump will betray his supporters.
    Why? Cuz he's sly. Also, Cuz he won't be able to do much even if he wanted to.

    It's like Japan when the western boats came. Tokugawa regime was challenged and overthrown for failing to protect Japan from foreigners. The new elites promised pride and protection. But they realized they couldn't do anything to stave off foreigners either. They had to cut a deal with the western powers, the very thing the Tokugawa had been pressured to do.

    The ONLY WAY there will be fundamental change is IF Trump mentions Jewish power.
    Won't happen. He will just put all blame on mex, muslim, and chiner.

    Replies: @(((Owen))), @Anonymous

    Anti-Semitic losers can please go away forever before you ruin any more countries.

    How’d that work for you ******es in Germany? There’s a country with a future.

    • Replies: @anon
    @(((Owen)))

    Germany did great after the war.

    Replies: @fnn

  47. @Anonymous
    Not to this extent but similar stuff occurred at the Trump rally in Fort Worth TX. The convention center grounds in downtown were filled mostly with very low key whites and driving around them, circling if you will, were these thuggish Mexican guys revving their trucks engines, honking their horns and brandishing Mexican Flags. Media seemed to be looking at everything else and I never saw coverage of it. Maybe because this was the event where Christie announced his endorsement (VP?), but I don't think so. It was the most unnerving thing I had seen in a while and it might as well not have happened. Move along. Nothing to see here.

    Replies: @anon

    the media are a political actor, not neutral at all

  48. @Anonym
    I think it's a mistake to build the wall where the border currently stands. It's impossible to defend. We should mirror what the Israelis have done in Palestine and push the Mexicans into the area east of Coatzacoalcos and build a new cheaper, better border at the choke point running south of there. It's a much gentler solution than using Panama as the choke point.

    Replies: @(((Owen))), @Boomstick

    The Isthmus of Tehuantepec is a terrible place to build a wall. They couldn’t even build a road across it until the 1920s and it wasn’t reliable in rainy seasons for decades after that. It was the shortest, lowest route the Panama Canal could have crossed but the terrain was too hostile to any kind of construction and it couldn’t be done.

    The problem — now that malaria has been driven out — is porous, rocky, wet ground that won’t hold construction. Then there’s the hot steamy and very rainy weather wearing down the rock and any kind of structure. The bugs and mangrove type growth are awful.

    No. It’s a terrible place for anything, including a wall.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @(((Owen)))

    How about natural barriers, prickly plants, a canal full of crocodiles, something like that?

    Replies: @Anonym, @27 year old

    , @Anonym
    @(((Owen)))

    Is that you Donald?

  49. There are grocery stores in L.A. which won’t even sell to whites. So much for “diversity”. Here’s one of the few opportunities to vote for let-all-live over cheap labor: https://www.unz.com/runz/unz-on-the-issues/

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @I.W.

    Where are these grocery stores?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @I.W.
    @I.W.

    And assaults: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/violent-anti-trump-protesters-bloody-trump-supporters-throw-rocks-smash-car-windows-ca-rally/

  50. @Anonymous
    OT.

    In England right now there is a great big rumpus concerning that nasty old Trot of a Labour former London mayor and MP, Ken Livingstone, and accusations of 'antisemitism'.
    Basically, Livingstone, rather astonishingly, described Adolf Hitler as a 'Zionist'.

    As some background, Livingstone got into this mess by defending one Naz Shah, a female Pakistani MP - representing Bradford, naturally, - who tweeted that 'Jews should be paid money to vacate Israel and relocate to the USA' -. The irony of a Pakistani living on British soil making such a remark apparently escaped her.

    Anyhow, as the Labour Party more and more relies in the immigrant vote, and thus panders to islamists, this sort of thing will get more common. Labour MPs will more or less openly denounce Israel - and Jews as a people - to garner the massive and rapidly growing Muslim vote. Ironically, British Jews were the leading supporters of the criminalization of opposition to massive third world immigration into Britain. Some, such as the truly odious Jonathan Ported, were architects of shitty New Labour's open door policy of massive uncontrolled immigration.

    Surely, there's a moral or two here.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @V Vega, @anon, @Anonymous Nephew, @Flip, @Bill

    Livingstone was referring to the Haavara agreement

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

    but you’re right this stuff spilling out is a result of the growing Muslim vote.

  51. @Wally
    Nothing like recruiting more support for Trump.

    But then no one ever accused Mexicans of being smart.

    Replies: @Realist, @Perspective

    That’s for sure.

  52. @(((Owen)))
    @Anonym

    The Isthmus of Tehuantepec is a terrible place to build a wall. They couldn't even build a road across it until the 1920s and it wasn't reliable in rainy seasons for decades after that. It was the shortest, lowest route the Panama Canal could have crossed but the terrain was too hostile to any kind of construction and it couldn't be done.

    The problem -- now that malaria has been driven out -- is porous, rocky, wet ground that won't hold construction. Then there's the hot steamy and very rainy weather wearing down the rock and any kind of structure. The bugs and mangrove type growth are awful.

    No. It's a terrible place for anything, including a wall.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anonym

    How about natural barriers, prickly plants, a canal full of crocodiles, something like that?

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @Dave Pinsen

    I like your thinking. Maybe the wet ground will make digging tunnels prohibitively difficult.

    , @27 year old
    @Dave Pinsen

    The Darien Gap, although it's too far south

    Replies: @Anonym

  53. @Tiny Duck
    Demography is destiny. How does it feel ? Knowing that you have lost and set at the mercy of those you continually degrade?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Zed, Lord of the Brutals, @Difference Maker, @bomag, @Threecranes, @Forbes, @syonredux, @dumpstersquirrel, @Malcolm X-Lax, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    How does it feel?

    It feels like recoil.

  54. @(((Owen)))
    @Priss Factor

    Anti-Semitic losers can please go away forever before you ruin any more countries.

    How'd that work for you ******es in Germany? There's a country with a future.

    Replies: @anon

    Germany did great after the war.

    • Replies: @fnn
    @anon

    Europe began to destroy itself with the importation of the New Left or cultmarx virus from the US in 1968. Everybody in France knows this, but the Germans are still in denial cuz they tend to see it as another phase in the ongoing denazification process. 1971 was the last year when births exceeded deaths in the Federal Republic.

    Of course it could all be seen as just a follow-up to the two world wars.

    Replies: @syonredux, @iSteveFan, @guest

  55. I’m sure they’ll all quiet down and buy American flags after Ron saves English for their children and gets them their fifteen bucks an hour.

  56. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin
    @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin

    From another angle:
    https://youtu.be/bME3hbBBphM


    Also I'm not really that sure that they are a Trump supporter as people are alleging.

    Replies: @anon

    I was suspicious at first – media blaming the Trumpenwehr as usual – but i don’t know now, looking at a lot of different angles i think he was pretty angry at the crowd so could be. Maybe one of them keyed his car or something.

    already got a soundtrack

    werewolf is coming unless the bad guys back off

  57. @Tiny Duck
    Demography is destiny. How does it feel ? Knowing that you have lost and set at the mercy of those you continually degrade?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Zed, Lord of the Brutals, @Difference Maker, @bomag, @Threecranes, @Forbes, @syonredux, @dumpstersquirrel, @Malcolm X-Lax, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    The future belongs to us

  58. @V Vega
    Wow. The video of those hispanics amassing and converging on a pickup truck waiting at a stop light was terrifying. Imagine if there were kids in that truck. Jesus.

    Those were some big fat skank lookin' dudes. They weren't like your average hispanic in California. Those were foreign-born hood rats. They looked fresh out of the rio grande. Not that long ago, it would be inconceivable that illegal aliens would actually riot in the streets of Costa fucking Mesa.

    I remember when Costa Mesa was a nice, indescript little town. Nothing remotely of the kind ever went on there. Just horrendous.

    From this day forward, before retiring, I will pray each night for Obama to suffer a stroke, leaving him without the memory of the english language, nor the ability to relearn it, so the rest of his wretched days are spent screaming at Michelle in guttural spanish.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Jefferson

    Obama no habla Espanol.

    But megadittoes on the stroke. Maybe he will speak Indonesian or Arabic. Or whatever.

  59. This will help Trump in the coming California primary.

    “Build the Wall.”

  60. @Dave Pinsen
    @(((Owen)))

    How about natural barriers, prickly plants, a canal full of crocodiles, something like that?

    Replies: @Anonym, @27 year old

    I like your thinking. Maybe the wet ground will make digging tunnels prohibitively difficult.

  61. @(((Owen)))
    @Anonym

    The Isthmus of Tehuantepec is a terrible place to build a wall. They couldn't even build a road across it until the 1920s and it wasn't reliable in rainy seasons for decades after that. It was the shortest, lowest route the Panama Canal could have crossed but the terrain was too hostile to any kind of construction and it couldn't be done.

    The problem -- now that malaria has been driven out -- is porous, rocky, wet ground that won't hold construction. Then there's the hot steamy and very rainy weather wearing down the rock and any kind of structure. The bugs and mangrove type growth are awful.

    No. It's a terrible place for anything, including a wall.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anonym

    Is that you Donald?

  62. @I.W.
    There are grocery stores in L.A. which won't even sell to whites. So much for "diversity". Here's one of the few opportunities to vote for let-all-live over cheap labor: https://www.unz.com/runz/unz-on-the-issues/

    Replies: @Anonymous, @I.W.

    Where are these grocery stores?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    They are secret grocery stores.

  63. @Anonymous
    @I.W.

    Where are these grocery stores?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    They are secret grocery stores.

  64. Si a ellos no les gusta aquí, pueden regresar a Mexico.

  65. @Anonymous
    OT.

    In England right now there is a great big rumpus concerning that nasty old Trot of a Labour former London mayor and MP, Ken Livingstone, and accusations of 'antisemitism'.
    Basically, Livingstone, rather astonishingly, described Adolf Hitler as a 'Zionist'.

    As some background, Livingstone got into this mess by defending one Naz Shah, a female Pakistani MP - representing Bradford, naturally, - who tweeted that 'Jews should be paid money to vacate Israel and relocate to the USA' -. The irony of a Pakistani living on British soil making such a remark apparently escaped her.

    Anyhow, as the Labour Party more and more relies in the immigrant vote, and thus panders to islamists, this sort of thing will get more common. Labour MPs will more or less openly denounce Israel - and Jews as a people - to garner the massive and rapidly growing Muslim vote. Ironically, British Jews were the leading supporters of the criminalization of opposition to massive third world immigration into Britain. Some, such as the truly odious Jonathan Ported, were architects of shitty New Labour's open door policy of massive uncontrolled immigration.

    Surely, there's a moral or two here.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @V Vega, @anon, @Anonymous Nephew, @Flip, @Bill

    The ironic thing is that Naz Shah was elected in a contest against the previous MP George Galloway, even more pro-Palestinian.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradford_West_by-election,_2012

    I remember Labour Party activists who’d been bused in from whiter parts to campaign against Galloway (in the previous election) were bemused to find that to campaign door to door in much of Bradford you need to be fluent in Urdu or Punjabi.

  66. @Anonymous
    Steve,
    It's not about being 'no terribly smart' but more like being 'not terribly inhibited' about showing your true plans and feelings.


    There is a difference.

    Replies: @RamonaQ

    Exactly. These people were doing a victory dance on California’s corpse.

    It made me really sad because it was a reminder that the battle has already been lost regardless of what happens in November.

    The Eastern European communists didn’t do anything half has bad as what the cultural marxists have done. They left their countries essentially the same as before and after communism fell they hated it and never wanted to go back to it. Sounds like a good deal to me.

  67. @anon
    @(((Owen)))

    Germany did great after the war.

    Replies: @fnn

    Europe began to destroy itself with the importation of the New Left or cultmarx virus from the US in 1968. Everybody in France knows this, but the Germans are still in denial cuz they tend to see it as another phase in the ongoing denazification process. 1971 was the last year when births exceeded deaths in the Federal Republic.

    Of course it could all be seen as just a follow-up to the two world wars.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @fnn

    Thought that the standard aetiology went in the other direction, with the USA getting infected by Frankfurt-school types.....

    Of course, that Moldbug guy blamed the whole thing on John Calvin, so maybe the French are to blame....

    Replies: @anon, @fnn

    , @iSteveFan
    @fnn


    Europe began to destroy itself with the importation of the New Left or cultmarx virus from the US in 1968.
     
    It was the re-importation of this virus that began to destroy Europe. The virus had crossed the Atlantic, mutated and then came back home.
    , @guest
    @fnn

    That's an awfully long follow up. The Allies look fairly stupid for going all out in WWII only to spend 50 years with daggers drawn, rebuilding the countries they sacked, fighting for global domination. Less so Russia, obviously, since it was invaded. But when you look at the New World Order they built, wow. More powerful and longer lasting than the Holy Alliance.

  68. @V Vega
    Wow. The video of those hispanics amassing and converging on a pickup truck waiting at a stop light was terrifying. Imagine if there were kids in that truck. Jesus.

    Those were some big fat skank lookin' dudes. They weren't like your average hispanic in California. Those were foreign-born hood rats. They looked fresh out of the rio grande. Not that long ago, it would be inconceivable that illegal aliens would actually riot in the streets of Costa fucking Mesa.

    I remember when Costa Mesa was a nice, indescript little town. Nothing remotely of the kind ever went on there. Just horrendous.

    From this day forward, before retiring, I will pray each night for Obama to suffer a stroke, leaving him without the memory of the english language, nor the ability to relearn it, so the rest of his wretched days are spent screaming at Michelle in guttural spanish.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @Jefferson

    “Those were some big fat skank lookin’ dudes. They weren’t like your average hispanic in California. Those were foreign-born hood rats. They looked fresh out of the rio grande.”

    Than you obviously do not live in California. The obesity rate is quite high anong American born Hispanics in California. Tons of fat skank lookin gorditos and gorditas among Hispanic anchor babies in California.

    • Replies: @Bill
    @Jefferson

    I spent some time in CA recently after an absence of 20 years. The brown people are definitely a lot rounder than they used to be.

  69. @(((Owen)))
    In Mexico there is a constant series of marches, demonstrations, parades, and protesters showing the public their attachment to one cause or another. It blocks busses and car traffic. Most days you can depend on the public transit but if there's a manifestación you're going nowhere.

    The Mexico City Metro avoids the trouble, of course. It's the best way to get across town anyway.

    It might be the losing party in an election, the electrical workers' union, the march for rights of women or indigenous people, students protesting something, or anything else. It's just a part of the fabric of Mexican life that you show dissatisfaction by marching through town at rush hour.

    I don't find it charming and would prefer the authorities put a stop to it. I do get a little schadenfreude when the rich and heavily subsidized car drivers get stuck and we Metro riders have an easy time.

    And sometimes the marchers are just tone deaf enough to march in the USA with Mexican flags. I don't expect Americans will like it much as this practice grows and grows. But as there aren't any Mexicans to speak of in swing states, it won't affect the November results.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Thea

    “But as there aren’t any Mexicans to speak of in swing states, it won’t affect the November results.”

    Colorado and Nevada are swing states with yuge Mexican populations.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Jefferson

    And New Mexico. Texas will be a swing state fairly soon due to the Mexican colonization, but not in 2016.

    , @carol
    @Jefferson

    I worked in Las Vegas off and on between 1969 and 2004, and couldn't get over how there were NO Mexicans, anywhere. Not even the laborors, waiters, busboys, or bar boys. It was all white kids from the local schools or guys who moved up from LA or from back East during a divorce. If a guy wanted to be a bartender, he had to be a bar boy 6 mo. per union rules. Musicians union also had a 6 mo wait period. There were lots of Jews and Italians..very few colored acts in the showrooms.

    What a different world that was.

    Replies: @Anon

  70. @Anonymous
    OT.

    In England right now there is a great big rumpus concerning that nasty old Trot of a Labour former London mayor and MP, Ken Livingstone, and accusations of 'antisemitism'.
    Basically, Livingstone, rather astonishingly, described Adolf Hitler as a 'Zionist'.

    As some background, Livingstone got into this mess by defending one Naz Shah, a female Pakistani MP - representing Bradford, naturally, - who tweeted that 'Jews should be paid money to vacate Israel and relocate to the USA' -. The irony of a Pakistani living on British soil making such a remark apparently escaped her.

    Anyhow, as the Labour Party more and more relies in the immigrant vote, and thus panders to islamists, this sort of thing will get more common. Labour MPs will more or less openly denounce Israel - and Jews as a people - to garner the massive and rapidly growing Muslim vote. Ironically, British Jews were the leading supporters of the criminalization of opposition to massive third world immigration into Britain. Some, such as the truly odious Jonathan Ported, were architects of shitty New Labour's open door policy of massive uncontrolled immigration.

    Surely, there's a moral or two here.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @V Vega, @anon, @Anonymous Nephew, @Flip, @Bill

    Paul Craig Roberts said Israeli Jews should be given US citizenship and leave Israel and that would solve the problem. I’d rather live in Westchester County than Israel myself.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Flip


    Paul Craig Roberts said Israeli Jews should be given US citizenship and leave Israel and that would solve the problem. I’d rather live in Westchester County than Israel myself.
     
    The hardcore nationalists would never go for it. Here's Ben-Gurion:

    If I knew that it was possible to save all the children in Germany by transporting them to England, but only half of them by transporting them to Palestine, I would chose the second—because we face not only the reckoning of those children, but the historical reckoning of the Jewish people.
     

    Replies: @Andrew

    , @anon
    @Flip

    Great, another n million open borders activists.

    This whole cyclical tit for tat thing and all the wars and slaughters that have resulted from it over the last 2000 years started when the Romans kicked them out so i think it would be better to have a crusade to take back the southern and eastern edges of "Christendom" so they have secure borders.

    Then maybe after a few generations they'll stop being crazy.

  71. Is Compton rapper YG among the violent anti-Donald Trump protestors in Orange County? YG said he got his gat ready to use on The Donald if ever came back to Cali.

  72. OT (sort of):

    Bill Kristol, Romney, and GOP leadership are pushing General James Mattis as a candidate to run third party to thwart Trump. Just a few facts about the general from Wikipedia…

    Battles/wars: Persian Gulf War; Invasion of Afghanistan; Iraq War

    Mattis was born in Pullman, Washington on September 8, 1950.[3] He graduated from Columbia High School, Richland, Washington, in 1968 and enlisted in the United States Marine Corps in 1969.[5] He later earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in history from Central Washington University[6] and was commissioned a second lieutenant through ROTC…

    Since retirement, Mattis has worked for FWA Consultants[35] and is an Annenberg Distinguished Visiting Fellow at the Hoover Institution.[36] He also serves as a Member of the General Dynamics Board of Directors.[35] He is a board member of Theranos, a Silicon Valley biotech company.[37]

    Theranos…Theranos… where I have heard of that name??

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Pat Gilligan

    Thanks, I'll post.

  73. @Dave Pinsen
    @(((Owen)))

    How about natural barriers, prickly plants, a canal full of crocodiles, something like that?

    Replies: @Anonym, @27 year old

    The Darien Gap, although it’s too far south

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @27 year old

    I am glad this has promoted some thought. I am no expert in geography but it stands to reason there is likely to be within a landmass that has a ~2000 mile border where it currently stands and a ~50 mile width on the other end, that somewhere in the middle will be a better choke point than the 2000 mile one.

    In this age open borders are promoted by both party establishments, which means that in practice, the border is not respected and people can move where they like and wave the flags of foreign governments. We should not at the same time play by "End of History" type rules where we cannot entertain fighting back with a similar lack of respect for borders. Let's put it on the table. If it is ok for Israel, and it is ok for Russia, why is it not ok for the USA to look at doing the same thing?

    And frankly, with the tacit encouragement of the burgeoning Chinese colony that is Shangcouver in the North - if the Canadians can't govern like grownups in their own country, maybe the US should do it for them. As if President Zoolander would do anything about it, except send a strongly worded love letter.

  74. @(((Owen)))
    @(((Owen)))

    op subject on Mexican social media this week. Lady 100 Pesos.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKRA1Q7sZCQ

    Replies: @bomag, @Bill

    Since when has one been able to video Mexican police in action? There must be a quadjillion hours of bribe-taking and suspect beating in the vault.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @bomag

    My dad paid $5 to the Mexico City cop who had unscrewed the "one way street" sign in front of the Palacio de Bellas Artes in Mexico City in 1975. That cop had bid high when his sergeant auctioned off such a primo spot for shaking down turistas.

    Replies: @bomag

  75. OT, maybe of cursory interest:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-36147411

    China: Obesity ‘explosion’ in rural youth, study warns


    The 29-year study, published in the European Journal of Preventive Cardiology, involved nearly 28,000 students in Shandong province.

    On the reason for the higher prevalence of overweight and obesity in boys, the study says: “The traditional, societal preference for sons, particularly in rural areas, may mean that boys are likely to enjoy more of the family’s resources.”

  76. @Pat Gilligan
    OT (sort of):

    Bill Kristol, Romney, and GOP leadership are pushing General James Mattis as a candidate to run third party to thwart Trump. Just a few facts about the general from Wikipedia...

    Battles/wars: Persian Gulf War; Invasion of Afghanistan; Iraq War

    Mattis was born in Pullman, Washington on September 8, 1950.[3] He graduated from Columbia High School, Richland, Washington, in 1968 and enlisted in the United States Marine Corps in 1969.[5] He later earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in history from Central Washington University[6] and was commissioned a second lieutenant through ROTC...

    Since retirement, Mattis has worked for FWA Consultants[35] and is an Annenberg Distinguished Visiting Fellow at the Hoover Institution.[36] He also serves as a Member of the General Dynamics Board of Directors.[35] He is a board member of Theranos, a Silicon Valley biotech company.[37]
     
    Theranos...Theranos... where I have heard of that name??

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Thanks, I’ll post.

  77. @bomag
    @(((Owen)))

    Since when has one been able to video Mexican police in action? There must be a quadjillion hours of bribe-taking and suspect beating in the vault.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    My dad paid $5 to the Mexico City cop who had unscrewed the “one way street” sign in front of the Palacio de Bellas Artes in Mexico City in 1975. That cop had bid high when his sergeant auctioned off such a primo spot for shaking down turistas.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Steve Sailer

    My parents visited in 1960 and were funneled via a one way street into an area where the only exit was through a bribe checkpoint. They tried to find a way out otherwise, but other exits were craftily blocked.

    Like the guy you've mentioned who carried the credit card reading machine back in the day, one can admire the organizational chops of this enterprise, but one wishes it would have been channeled into society building endeavors.

  78. @Boomstick
    @anon

    A quick look at the LA Times and OC Register web sites show most of the pictures that show Mexican flags have been scrubbed. They did own up to most of the protesters being late-teens/early 20's Latinos.

    Replies: @officious intermeddler

    Here’s a link to the LA Times story: not a single Mexican flag to be seen, just a huge picture of an obviously Mexican protester draped in the American flag.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-gays-for-trump-crowd-gathers-at-costa-mesa-rally-20160428-story.html

    • Replies: @I.W.
    @officious intermeddler

    Showing yet again who owns and controls mainstream media. If Kerry et al succeed in getting control of the Internet, most will not get news at all.

    Replies: @Boomstick

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @officious intermeddler

    Yeah, and then the MSM wonders why they are so little trusted. What could it be?

    , @officious intermeddler
    @officious intermeddler

    Update: The picture of the flag-draped male Mexican protester has been replaced by a picture of a female protester of somewhat less determinate race holding a peace sign.

    There's also a photo gallery of 28 pictures. Only one of them shows a protester waving a Mexican flag. In at least two of them, though, the picture has been carefully cropped so that the Mexican flag does not show. You can find the originals elsewhere on the internet with the flags showing.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-gays-for-trump-crowd-gathers-at-costa-mesa-rally-20160428-story.html

  79. @Tiny Duck
    Demography is destiny. How does it feel ? Knowing that you have lost and set at the mercy of those you continually degrade?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Zed, Lord of the Brutals, @Difference Maker, @bomag, @Threecranes, @Forbes, @syonredux, @dumpstersquirrel, @Malcolm X-Lax, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    those you continually degrade

    The degradation is self-inflicted. They, like you, make no positive contribution to the culture. Few want them here, and no one will miss them when they are gone. They are mainly agitating out of the fear that someone will cut the rate of growth of their government funded benefits. The bought-and-paid-for media will never put a microphone in one of these protester’s faces and get a quote, which will just be a variation on the theme of “kill the Gringo”.

  80. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor
    @Twinkie

    "One of the most redeeming qualities of Trump is his enemies. He is so terribly fortunate in his enemies."

    Once big money and big media go against him, it won't be no advantage.

    "I find Trump very distasteful and embarrassing, but when I see his enemies, my urge to vote for the man increases exponentially."

    I don't like his extreme posturing on Mexicans and Muslims --- easy targets in US ---, but I love his style. No, it's not presidential, but that died with Bush I. Dignity died forever with Lewinsky, Bush II's clown act, and Obama celebrity trash act.

    We must drop the pretense of dignity in politics.
    I mean in a nation where homo and tranny stuff constitute main moral issue... oy vey.

    Trump is like Andrew Jackson. He is the man without grace stoking populist passion against a new elite that has become downright oligarchal.

    But in the end, I think Trump will betray his supporters.
    Why? Cuz he's sly. Also, Cuz he won't be able to do much even if he wanted to.

    It's like Japan when the western boats came. Tokugawa regime was challenged and overthrown for failing to protect Japan from foreigners. The new elites promised pride and protection. But they realized they couldn't do anything to stave off foreigners either. They had to cut a deal with the western powers, the very thing the Tokugawa had been pressured to do.

    The ONLY WAY there will be fundamental change is IF Trump mentions Jewish power.
    Won't happen. He will just put all blame on mex, muslim, and chiner.

    Replies: @(((Owen))), @Anonymous

    I don’t like his extreme posturing on Mexicans and Muslims — easy targets in US —, but I love his style. No, it’s not presidential, but that died with Bush I. Dignity died forever with Lewinsky, Bush II’s clown act, and Obama celebrity trash act.

    As Dennis Miller pointed out, what counts as Presidential? Like Obama saying “the police acted stupidly” when they arrested a black Harvard professor in Cambridge, MA?

    [MORE]

  81. @Steve Sailer
    @bomag

    My dad paid $5 to the Mexico City cop who had unscrewed the "one way street" sign in front of the Palacio de Bellas Artes in Mexico City in 1975. That cop had bid high when his sergeant auctioned off such a primo spot for shaking down turistas.

    Replies: @bomag

    My parents visited in 1960 and were funneled via a one way street into an area where the only exit was through a bribe checkpoint. They tried to find a way out otherwise, but other exits were craftily blocked.

    Like the guy you’ve mentioned who carried the credit card reading machine back in the day, one can admire the organizational chops of this enterprise, but one wishes it would have been channeled into society building endeavors.

  82. @Tiny Duck
    Demography is destiny. How does it feel ? Knowing that you have lost and set at the mercy of those you continually degrade?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Zed, Lord of the Brutals, @Difference Maker, @bomag, @Threecranes, @Forbes, @syonredux, @dumpstersquirrel, @Malcolm X-Lax, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    “I [we] have not yet begun to fight” [back]. John Paul Jones

    You may try to swamp us with sheer numbers but remember; a disciplined band of well-organized, intelligent fighters will put to rout a disorganized rabble every time and every where. Remember the march of the Greek 10,000!

    On white European is worth fifty sweatbacks in a fight. One day you will be marched back across the desert border in chains and we shall see how you celebrate then.

    Mexico for Mexicans. America for Americans. My grandfather fought the cowardly Pancho Villa and hopefully, my grandchildren will fight yours. We could never bring Villa to battle because he ran around like the coward Mexicans males are, avoiding a direct confrontation at all costs. What a pathetic “hero” you blustering loudmouths worship.

    Chicano Go Home! (and take your fat women with you)

  83. @(((Owen)))
    In Mexico there is a constant series of marches, demonstrations, parades, and protesters showing the public their attachment to one cause or another. It blocks busses and car traffic. Most days you can depend on the public transit but if there's a manifestación you're going nowhere.

    The Mexico City Metro avoids the trouble, of course. It's the best way to get across town anyway.

    It might be the losing party in an election, the electrical workers' union, the march for rights of women or indigenous people, students protesting something, or anything else. It's just a part of the fabric of Mexican life that you show dissatisfaction by marching through town at rush hour.

    I don't find it charming and would prefer the authorities put a stop to it. I do get a little schadenfreude when the rich and heavily subsidized car drivers get stuck and we Metro riders have an easy time.

    And sometimes the marchers are just tone deaf enough to march in the USA with Mexican flags. I don't expect Americans will like it much as this practice grows and grows. But as there aren't any Mexicans to speak of in swing states, it won't affect the November results.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Thea

    It happens in Ecuador a lot, too.

  84. @I.W.
    There are grocery stores in L.A. which won't even sell to whites. So much for "diversity". Here's one of the few opportunities to vote for let-all-live over cheap labor: https://www.unz.com/runz/unz-on-the-issues/

    Replies: @Anonymous, @I.W.

  85. Remember when you thought of Ca….you thought of sunny beaches the Beach boy music and relaxed laid back life style…..
    well things have surely changed…

  86. @officious intermeddler
    @Boomstick

    Here's a link to the LA Times story: not a single Mexican flag to be seen, just a huge picture of an obviously Mexican protester draped in the American flag.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-gays-for-trump-crowd-gathers-at-costa-mesa-rally-20160428-story.html

    Replies: @I.W., @Jim Don Bob, @officious intermeddler

    Showing yet again who owns and controls mainstream media. If Kerry et al succeed in getting control of the Internet, most will not get news at all.

    • Replies: @Boomstick
    @I.W.

    Control of the internet--at least the part most people see--is also becoming concentrated in just a few companies like facebook and Google. It's not exactly unthinkable for Google to tweak their search algorithms to favor certain sorts of stories and hide others.

  87. I guess freedom of speech and association are not bedrock values to Mexicans. Too bad we don’t have an American president these days, he would know what to do with foreign invaders attempting to threaten American freedoms and civil rights.

  88. @Smitty
    Okay, come on, this had to have been coordinated by Trump.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Your an idiot and get used to it #Trump is our next president

  89. I bet Fred Reed is in the corner of the flag waving anarchist scum.

  90. @fnn
    @anon

    Europe began to destroy itself with the importation of the New Left or cultmarx virus from the US in 1968. Everybody in France knows this, but the Germans are still in denial cuz they tend to see it as another phase in the ongoing denazification process. 1971 was the last year when births exceeded deaths in the Federal Republic.

    Of course it could all be seen as just a follow-up to the two world wars.

    Replies: @syonredux, @iSteveFan, @guest

    Thought that the standard aetiology went in the other direction, with the USA getting infected by Frankfurt-school types…..

    Of course, that Moldbug guy blamed the whole thing on John Calvin, so maybe the French are to blame….

    • Replies: @anon
    @syonredux

    The Frankfurt school types escaped to the US and then re-infected Europe from the US due to the US' post-war cultural power in media, academia.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Reg Cæsar

    , @fnn
    @syonredux

    Or you could say that LBJ's Vietnam War and Great Society combination punch created the objective conditions for 1968. Then look to Woodrow Wilson and FDR for the roots of LBJism and we're back in the vicinity of self-righteous messianic Protestantism. Wilson was certainly worse than any member of the Frankfurt School and indeed the Frankfurt School would have never existed if Wilson had been strangled in the cradle per the fantasy of Gore Vidal.

    Replies: @syonredux

  91. @Anonymous
    OT.

    In England right now there is a great big rumpus concerning that nasty old Trot of a Labour former London mayor and MP, Ken Livingstone, and accusations of 'antisemitism'.
    Basically, Livingstone, rather astonishingly, described Adolf Hitler as a 'Zionist'.

    As some background, Livingstone got into this mess by defending one Naz Shah, a female Pakistani MP - representing Bradford, naturally, - who tweeted that 'Jews should be paid money to vacate Israel and relocate to the USA' -. The irony of a Pakistani living on British soil making such a remark apparently escaped her.

    Anyhow, as the Labour Party more and more relies in the immigrant vote, and thus panders to islamists, this sort of thing will get more common. Labour MPs will more or less openly denounce Israel - and Jews as a people - to garner the massive and rapidly growing Muslim vote. Ironically, British Jews were the leading supporters of the criminalization of opposition to massive third world immigration into Britain. Some, such as the truly odious Jonathan Ported, were architects of shitty New Labour's open door policy of massive uncontrolled immigration.

    Surely, there's a moral or two here.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @V Vega, @anon, @Anonymous Nephew, @Flip, @Bill

    Livingstone, rather astonishingly, described Adolf Hitler as a ‘Zionist’.

    And as if that wasn’t bad enough, he followed up by claiming that the sun rises in the East!!!1!

    British Jews were the leading supporters of the criminalization of opposition to massive third world immigration . . . Surely, there’s a moral or two here.

    You mean, like, it’s a really bad idea to delegate a country’s propaganda machine to a hostile minority?

  92. @Jefferson
    @V Vega

    "Those were some big fat skank lookin’ dudes. They weren’t like your average hispanic in California. Those were foreign-born hood rats. They looked fresh out of the rio grande."

    Than you obviously do not live in California. The obesity rate is quite high anong American born Hispanics in California. Tons of fat skank lookin gorditos and gorditas among Hispanic anchor babies in California.

    Replies: @Bill

    I spent some time in CA recently after an absence of 20 years. The brown people are definitely a lot rounder than they used to be.

  93. @Flip
    @Anonymous

    Paul Craig Roberts said Israeli Jews should be given US citizenship and leave Israel and that would solve the problem. I'd rather live in Westchester County than Israel myself.

    Replies: @syonredux, @anon

    Paul Craig Roberts said Israeli Jews should be given US citizenship and leave Israel and that would solve the problem. I’d rather live in Westchester County than Israel myself.

    The hardcore nationalists would never go for it. Here’s Ben-Gurion:

    If I knew that it was possible to save all the children in Germany by transporting them to England, but only half of them by transporting them to Palestine, I would chose the second—because we face not only the reckoning of those children, but the historical reckoning of the Jewish people.

    • Replies: @Andrew
    @syonredux

    "The hardcore nationalists would never go for it. Here’s Ben-Gurion:"

    And why should they?

    Some of history's most amazing photos are that of the Israeli Army troops liberating the Temple Mount in 1967. Anyone with any national or religious sense would understand the significance and emotion involved.

    Only a clueless Jew hater would fail to comprehend and suggest something so stupid as evacuating Israel.

    Since the Berlin Wall already fell and Russia bloodlessly recaptured Crimea, the only thing I could think of to rival 1967 would be a Greek or Russian army capturing Hagia Sophia.

    Again anyone with slightest bit of national consciousness should understand and appreciate this.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  94. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Flip
    @Anonymous

    Paul Craig Roberts said Israeli Jews should be given US citizenship and leave Israel and that would solve the problem. I'd rather live in Westchester County than Israel myself.

    Replies: @syonredux, @anon

    Great, another n million open borders activists.

    This whole cyclical tit for tat thing and all the wars and slaughters that have resulted from it over the last 2000 years started when the Romans kicked them out so i think it would be better to have a crusade to take back the southern and eastern edges of “Christendom” so they have secure borders.

    Then maybe after a few generations they’ll stop being crazy.

  95. @(((Owen)))
    @(((Owen)))

    op subject on Mexican social media this week. Lady 100 Pesos.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKRA1Q7sZCQ

    Replies: @bomag, @Bill

    Coarse features, big thighs, repulsive personality: what’s not to like? Give her ten years, and she’ll look like Jabe’s wife.

    On the upside, Mexican cop attire is so cool. I dig the kevlar vest worn outside the shirt. Even more, I dig that mystery-fabric light sweater with the Sam Browne belt. They need better hats, though. If they would pair their current uniform with something really cool like PA State Trooper hats, that would be the absolute bomb. Actually, that picture does not do it justice, most troopers wear the chin strap under their lower lip . . . ah, like this.

    • Replies: @(((Owen)))
    @Bill


    Coarse features, big thighs, repulsive personality: what’s not to like?
     
    Eleven reasons why you'd never want to sleep with Lady 100 Pesos from Mexico's Finest News Source:

    http://eldeforma.com/2016/04/27/11-razones-por-las-que-jamas-te-querras-acostar-con-lady-100-pesos/


    Give her ten years, and she’ll look like Jabe’s wife.
     
    That is a very naïve view of Mexican class politics. Columba was not from the ladies nice social stratum.

    Replies: @BB753

  96. @syonredux
    @fnn

    Thought that the standard aetiology went in the other direction, with the USA getting infected by Frankfurt-school types.....

    Of course, that Moldbug guy blamed the whole thing on John Calvin, so maybe the French are to blame....

    Replies: @anon, @fnn

    The Frankfurt school types escaped to the US and then re-infected Europe from the US due to the US’ post-war cultural power in media, academia.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @anon


    The Frankfurt school types escaped to the US and then re-infected Europe from the US due to the US’ post-war cultural power in media, academia.
     
    Yes, wheels within wheels, where she stops, nobody knows...
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @anon


    The Frankfurt school types escaped to the US and then re-infected Europe from the US due to the US’ post-war cultural power in media, academia…
     
    …starting with Elvis.
  97. @syonredux
    @fnn

    Thought that the standard aetiology went in the other direction, with the USA getting infected by Frankfurt-school types.....

    Of course, that Moldbug guy blamed the whole thing on John Calvin, so maybe the French are to blame....

    Replies: @anon, @fnn

    Or you could say that LBJ’s Vietnam War and Great Society combination punch created the objective conditions for 1968. Then look to Woodrow Wilson and FDR for the roots of LBJism and we’re back in the vicinity of self-righteous messianic Protestantism. Wilson was certainly worse than any member of the Frankfurt School and indeed the Frankfurt School would have never existed if Wilson had been strangled in the cradle per the fantasy of Gore Vidal.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @syonredux
    @fnn


    Or you could say that LBJ’s Vietnam War and Great Society combination punch created the objective conditions for 1968.
     
    Or maybe it was the Six-Day War? Cf the role played by Jews like Daniel Marc Cohn-Bendit...

    Then look to Woodrow Wilson and FDR for the roots of LBJism and we’re back in the vicinity of self-righteous messianic Protestantism. Wilson was certainly worse than any member of the Frankfurt School and indeed the Frankfurt School would have never existed if Wilson had been strangled in the cradle per the fantasy of Gore Vidal.
     
    Dunno, dear boy. It seems to me that the genealogy of the Frankfurt School includes a lot of Continental figures: Rousseau, Hegel, Feuerbach, Marx, Nietzsche,Freud, etc, etc

    As for killing little Tommy Wilson in the cradle, thereby averting a host of evils.....Dunno, one could make the same claim about German intransigence during the whole 1914-18 mess. I mean, the Germans were the ones who shipped Lenin to Russia (sealed up like a bacillus, as Churchill remarked)....

    As for what a German victory might have brought:


    It is also false to assert that German culture was driven to insanity by a pervasive sense of defeat. The 1920s were the age of the Lost Generation in America and the Bright Young Things in Britain.

    A reader ignorant of the history of the 20th century who was given samples from this literature that did not contain actual references to the war could reasonably conclude that he was reading the literature of defeated peoples. There was indeed insanity in culture in the 1920s, but the insanity pervaded the whole West.

    Weimar culture would have happened even if there had been no Weimar Republic. We know this, since all the major themes of the Weimar period, the new art and revolutionary politics and sexual liberation, all began before the war. This was a major argument of the remarkable book, RITES OF SPRING, by the Canadian scholar, Modris Ekstein. There would still have been Bauhaus architecture and surrealist cinema and depressing war novels if the Kaiser had issued a victory proclamation in late 1918 rather than an instrument of abdication. There would even have been a DECLINE OF THE WEST by Oswald Spengler in 1918. He began working on it years before the war. The book was, in fact, written in part to explain the significance of a German victory.

    These things were simply extensions of the trends that had dominated German culture for a generation. They grew logically out of Nietzsche and Wagner and Freud. A different outcome in the First World War would probably have made the political right less suspicious of modernity, for the simple reason that left wing politics would not have been anywhere nearly as fashionable among artists as such politics were in defeat.
     

    http://www.firstworldwar.com/features/ifgermany.htm

    Replies: @The most deplorable one

  98. @fnn
    @anon

    Europe began to destroy itself with the importation of the New Left or cultmarx virus from the US in 1968. Everybody in France knows this, but the Germans are still in denial cuz they tend to see it as another phase in the ongoing denazification process. 1971 was the last year when births exceeded deaths in the Federal Republic.

    Of course it could all be seen as just a follow-up to the two world wars.

    Replies: @syonredux, @iSteveFan, @guest

    Europe began to destroy itself with the importation of the New Left or cultmarx virus from the US in 1968.

    It was the re-importation of this virus that began to destroy Europe. The virus had crossed the Atlantic, mutated and then came back home.

  99. @Big Bill
    "Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico"

    -- Vincente Fox

    Replies: @Nico, @Louis Renault, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    You can take the Mexican out of Mexico, but you can’t take Mexico out of the Mexican.

    Of course, that means it would be prudent to start asking how we might put the Mexican BACK into Mexico.

  100. @officious intermeddler
    @Boomstick

    Here's a link to the LA Times story: not a single Mexican flag to be seen, just a huge picture of an obviously Mexican protester draped in the American flag.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-gays-for-trump-crowd-gathers-at-costa-mesa-rally-20160428-story.html

    Replies: @I.W., @Jim Don Bob, @officious intermeddler

    Yeah, and then the MSM wonders why they are so little trusted. What could it be?

  101. @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin
    Someone (possibly a Trump supporter) doing donuts around protesters
    https://youtu.be/nXpJXKCUiHc

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin, @5371, @Ron Mexico

    LMAO, thanks for the video share. went to youtube to check out comments and the first one was very iSteveish: goodwinep10 hours ago
    Trump has the power to even summon the ghost of Paul Walker!!

  102. If a black walks in front of one’s car — as several can be relied upon to do on any given drive through Detroit — you simply make it clear that you aren’t slowing, and they sensibly get out of the way. The average weight of these Mestizos appears to be well over three hundred pounds and without those all-important flags you might think it was a fat pride waddle. I would stop.
    Several threads about this on fourchan last night, and all were characterized by people identifying as Hispanics and Mexicans, many with the IP-based national flag in their headers, saying how ashamed they were by this behavior.
    The consensus was that this, like El Chapo’s brilliant idea of physically threatening American presidential candidates for having dared to call him a violent criminal, illustrates an under-appreciated reality for apoliticals and those Americans who have not followed the immigration story, and so helps Trump. A similar illustration was the classic Cartel massacre of eight members of an Ohio family tied to high-level marijuana growing: cartels behaving like cartels in Ohio will wake up people who had thought that Spanish-speaking areas could only be found in the South West.

  103. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous

    The Daily Mail headline used the word "transportation". Few Americans know how loaded that term is in the rest of the Anglosphere. They ain't talkin' about the tram!

    Replies: @a Newsreader

    Could you please explain?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @a Newsreader

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_transportation

  104. @Ed
    @Laugh Track

    Laugh Track, there is a history worldwide of self-defeating "protests" being organized by police agitators to discredit opposition political movements. But in this case its unlikely, since the US establishment is pro-immigration. Maybe the target audience is supposed to be in Mexico.

    Replies: @Daniel H, @boogerbently

    The establishment is pro-immigration, the police are not.

  105. @syonredux
    @Flip


    Paul Craig Roberts said Israeli Jews should be given US citizenship and leave Israel and that would solve the problem. I’d rather live in Westchester County than Israel myself.
     
    The hardcore nationalists would never go for it. Here's Ben-Gurion:

    If I knew that it was possible to save all the children in Germany by transporting them to England, but only half of them by transporting them to Palestine, I would chose the second—because we face not only the reckoning of those children, but the historical reckoning of the Jewish people.
     

    Replies: @Andrew

    “The hardcore nationalists would never go for it. Here’s Ben-Gurion:”

    And why should they?

    Some of history’s most amazing photos are that of the Israeli Army troops liberating the Temple Mount in 1967. Anyone with any national or religious sense would understand the significance and emotion involved.

    Only a clueless Jew hater would fail to comprehend and suggest something so stupid as evacuating Israel.

    Since the Berlin Wall already fell and Russia bloodlessly recaptured Crimea, the only thing I could think of to rival 1967 would be a Greek or Russian army capturing Hagia Sophia.

    Again anyone with slightest bit of national consciousness should understand and appreciate this.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Andrew

    You make an apt comparison.

    Greeks evicting people from their homes in order to confiscate land where their ancestors haven't lived for 33 generations (or Russians evicting people in order to confiscate land where their ancestors never lived).

    Jews evicting people from their homes in order to confiscate land where their ancestors hadn't lived for 95 generations.

    Those would indeed be very similar events.

  106. During the immigration battles of the 1990’s there were hordes of hispanics taking to the streets of Southern California and what the public saw was a sea of mexican flags. Then the popular radio personality Piolin (an illegal alien himself) told his listeners to leave the mexican flags at home and wave American flags instead. Apparently, either their forgetting that lesson or they are now so comfortable and arrogant they don’t think it matters.

  107. @Anonym
    I think it's a mistake to build the wall where the border currently stands. It's impossible to defend. We should mirror what the Israelis have done in Palestine and push the Mexicans into the area east of Coatzacoalcos and build a new cheaper, better border at the choke point running south of there. It's a much gentler solution than using Panama as the choke point.

    Replies: @(((Owen))), @Boomstick

    I blame Nicholas Trist, who botched the treaty that ended the Mexican-American war. A border that runs from roughly Big Bend, TX, to the Gulf of California, plus a US Baja California, would have shortened the current border by 500 miles. It would have been mostly desert and away from population centers, too.

    Plus it would have gained the secured the crucial surfing grounds of Baja for the US.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @Boomstick

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Trist

    Thanks for adding that to the discussion. Yes, Trist seems like a corrupt and incompetent person, and it is unfortunate that Polk sent him to do that job. So it seems that the US has unfinished business. In this flexible and fluid border situation, the border location ought to be looked at again.

    If Trump knows anything, it is that the key thing to understand about real estate is Location, Location, Location. I know with Mexico paying for the wall, cost is less an issue but still I think this merits some discussion if for nothing else than to move the Overton window.

  108. @Laugh Track
    I think that some SJWs, BLM types, and other identity protesters are so certain of their own rightness in opposing "oppression", "Fascism", "Trumpism", or whatever ism they project on those they hate, that they are oblivious to how they are coming across and how they are actually helping the side they oppose.

    Nearly any demonstration that disrupts "business as usual", which is to say which blocks commuters trying to get home, etc. just pisses off everyone stuck in traffic due to the demonstration. Add Mexican flags to it and it just feeds support for Trump.

    This is not rocket science, but apparently many of these folks do not have a clue.

    Replies: @Ed, @guest, @Anonymous

    About commuters, the Trump is a national candidate and protesters are looking to make national news (among other things), so I don’t think it matters.

  109. Interesting how Steve tends to only mention harassment from the anti-Trump side and ignores harassment from the pro-Trump side:

    ” Journalist who profiled Melania Trump hit with barrage of antisemitic abuse ”

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/28/julia-ioffe-journalist-melania-trump-antisemitic-abuse

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonymous

    that's counter harassing anti-Trump media harassment

  110. @Jefferson
    @(((Owen)))

    "But as there aren’t any Mexicans to speak of in swing states, it won’t affect the November results."

    Colorado and Nevada are swing states with yuge Mexican populations.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @carol

    And New Mexico. Texas will be a swing state fairly soon due to the Mexican colonization, but not in 2016.

  111. @Big Bill
    "Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico"

    -- Vincente Fox

    Replies: @Nico, @Louis Renault, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    “Veni, vidi, vici”

    Of course we’ll always have legacy guilt.

  112. @fnn
    @anon

    Europe began to destroy itself with the importation of the New Left or cultmarx virus from the US in 1968. Everybody in France knows this, but the Germans are still in denial cuz they tend to see it as another phase in the ongoing denazification process. 1971 was the last year when births exceeded deaths in the Federal Republic.

    Of course it could all be seen as just a follow-up to the two world wars.

    Replies: @syonredux, @iSteveFan, @guest

    That’s an awfully long follow up. The Allies look fairly stupid for going all out in WWII only to spend 50 years with daggers drawn, rebuilding the countries they sacked, fighting for global domination. Less so Russia, obviously, since it was invaded. But when you look at the New World Order they built, wow. More powerful and longer lasting than the Holy Alliance.

  113. @Big Bill
    "Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico"

    -- Vincente Fox

    Replies: @Nico, @Louis Renault, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    THIS is not Mexico. The Mexican flag means less than nothing here. If that’s want you want to fly then go back to where that flag means something.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    THIS is not Mexico
     
    That picture is more Mexico than it is Fargo or Ishpeming. The only thing that comes across as American is the paving on the road.
  114. Watch this video of mexican-flag waving mob attacking Trump supports in car.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Malcolm X-Lax

    Der Firer should collect all these and put them on a web page so people in Iowa realise what's happening

    (as the media will never tell them).

  115. I’m going to have to wait for the great minds of Conservative Inc to explain all this to me because right now I can’t tell who’s Hitler, Churchill or Chamberlain or what any of it has to do with Ellis Island. Maybe the people with Mexican flags are righteously attacking Trump supporters because Trump’s not really American enough? Maybe those natural conservatives heard Trump’s a Kremlin stooge and Putin’s ex-KGB? I could barely control myself when I heard about it so I can’t blame these fine folks.

    This video just makes it all more confusing:

  116. @Jefferson
    @(((Owen)))

    "But as there aren’t any Mexicans to speak of in swing states, it won’t affect the November results."

    Colorado and Nevada are swing states with yuge Mexican populations.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @carol

    I worked in Las Vegas off and on between 1969 and 2004, and couldn’t get over how there were NO Mexicans, anywhere. Not even the laborors, waiters, busboys, or bar boys. It was all white kids from the local schools or guys who moved up from LA or from back East during a divorce. If a guy wanted to be a bartender, he had to be a bar boy 6 mo. per union rules. Musicians union also had a 6 mo wait period. There were lots of Jews and Italians..very few colored acts in the showrooms.

    What a different world that was.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @carol

    I went to a meeting at a major American airline in Texas a few months back. I stood in the lobby for about 30 minutes right around the time employees were coming and going. Not a lot of Americans. All H1Bs. America!

  117. @Tiny Duck
    Demography is destiny. How does it feel ? Knowing that you have lost and set at the mercy of those you continually degrade?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Zed, Lord of the Brutals, @Difference Maker, @bomag, @Threecranes, @Forbes, @syonredux, @dumpstersquirrel, @Malcolm X-Lax, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Declaring victory is no different than declaring the debate is over, or the science is settled–reality is rarely accommodating to smug assertions. The need to do so is an indication of weakness.

  118. @Tiny Duck
    Demography is destiny. How does it feel ? Knowing that you have lost and set at the mercy of those you continually degrade?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Zed, Lord of the Brutals, @Difference Maker, @bomag, @Threecranes, @Forbes, @syonredux, @dumpstersquirrel, @Malcolm X-Lax, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Knowing that you have lost and set at the mercy of those you continually degrade?

    MMM, is it possible to “degrade” a Mexican Mestizo?You know, bearing in mind the fact that Mexican is a synonym for mediocrity?

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @syonredux

    "MMM, is it possible to “degrade” a Mexican Mestizo?You know, bearing in mind the fact that Mexican is a synonym for mediocrity?"

    If you want to degrade a Mexixan, tell him or her that the Mexican national football team is inferior to Brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay. Tell them Mexico will NEVER win a World Cup.

    Replies: @anon

  119. @fnn
    @syonredux

    Or you could say that LBJ's Vietnam War and Great Society combination punch created the objective conditions for 1968. Then look to Woodrow Wilson and FDR for the roots of LBJism and we're back in the vicinity of self-righteous messianic Protestantism. Wilson was certainly worse than any member of the Frankfurt School and indeed the Frankfurt School would have never existed if Wilson had been strangled in the cradle per the fantasy of Gore Vidal.

    Replies: @syonredux

    Or you could say that LBJ’s Vietnam War and Great Society combination punch created the objective conditions for 1968.

    Or maybe it was the Six-Day War? Cf the role played by Jews like Daniel Marc Cohn-Bendit…

    Then look to Woodrow Wilson and FDR for the roots of LBJism and we’re back in the vicinity of self-righteous messianic Protestantism. Wilson was certainly worse than any member of the Frankfurt School and indeed the Frankfurt School would have never existed if Wilson had been strangled in the cradle per the fantasy of Gore Vidal.

    Dunno, dear boy. It seems to me that the genealogy of the Frankfurt School includes a lot of Continental figures: Rousseau, Hegel, Feuerbach, Marx, Nietzsche,Freud, etc, etc

    As for killing little Tommy Wilson in the cradle, thereby averting a host of evils…..Dunno, one could make the same claim about German intransigence during the whole 1914-18 mess. I mean, the Germans were the ones who shipped Lenin to Russia (sealed up like a bacillus, as Churchill remarked)….

    As for what a German victory might have brought:

    It is also false to assert that German culture was driven to insanity by a pervasive sense of defeat. The 1920s were the age of the Lost Generation in America and the Bright Young Things in Britain.

    A reader ignorant of the history of the 20th century who was given samples from this literature that did not contain actual references to the war could reasonably conclude that he was reading the literature of defeated peoples. There was indeed insanity in culture in the 1920s, but the insanity pervaded the whole West.

    Weimar culture would have happened even if there had been no Weimar Republic. We know this, since all the major themes of the Weimar period, the new art and revolutionary politics and sexual liberation, all began before the war. This was a major argument of the remarkable book, RITES OF SPRING, by the Canadian scholar, Modris Ekstein. There would still have been Bauhaus architecture and surrealist cinema and depressing war novels if the Kaiser had issued a victory proclamation in late 1918 rather than an instrument of abdication. There would even have been a DECLINE OF THE WEST by Oswald Spengler in 1918. He began working on it years before the war. The book was, in fact, written in part to explain the significance of a German victory.

    These things were simply extensions of the trends that had dominated German culture for a generation. They grew logically out of Nietzsche and Wagner and Freud. A different outcome in the First World War would probably have made the political right less suspicious of modernity, for the simple reason that left wing politics would not have been anywhere nearly as fashionable among artists as such politics were in defeat.

    http://www.firstworldwar.com/features/ifgermany.htm

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    @syonredux


    A different outcome in the First World War would probably have made the political right less suspicious of modernity,
     
    Just what is modernity? Is it grown men pretending to feel like women so they can indulge their prurient interests by going into the women's restroom?

    Replies: @syonredux

  120. @anon
    @syonredux

    The Frankfurt school types escaped to the US and then re-infected Europe from the US due to the US' post-war cultural power in media, academia.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Reg Cæsar

    The Frankfurt school types escaped to the US and then re-infected Europe from the US due to the US’ post-war cultural power in media, academia.

    Yes, wheels within wheels, where she stops, nobody knows…

  121. @Anonymous
    Interesting how Steve tends to only mention harassment from the anti-Trump side and ignores harassment from the pro-Trump side:

    " Journalist who profiled Melania Trump hit with barrage of antisemitic abuse "

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/28/julia-ioffe-journalist-melania-trump-antisemitic-abuse

    Replies: @anon

    that’s counter harassing anti-Trump media harassment

  122. @27 year old
    @Dave Pinsen

    The Darien Gap, although it's too far south

    Replies: @Anonym

    I am glad this has promoted some thought. I am no expert in geography but it stands to reason there is likely to be within a landmass that has a ~2000 mile border where it currently stands and a ~50 mile width on the other end, that somewhere in the middle will be a better choke point than the 2000 mile one.

    In this age open borders are promoted by both party establishments, which means that in practice, the border is not respected and people can move where they like and wave the flags of foreign governments. We should not at the same time play by “End of History” type rules where we cannot entertain fighting back with a similar lack of respect for borders. Let’s put it on the table. If it is ok for Israel, and it is ok for Russia, why is it not ok for the USA to look at doing the same thing?

    And frankly, with the tacit encouragement of the burgeoning Chinese colony that is Shangcouver in the North – if the Canadians can’t govern like grownups in their own country, maybe the US should do it for them. As if President Zoolander would do anything about it, except send a strongly worded love letter.

  123. @Malcolm X-Lax
    Watch this video of mexican-flag waving mob attacking Trump supports in car.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tNQ9upvMTk

    Replies: @anon

    Der Firer should collect all these and put them on a web page so people in Iowa realise what’s happening

    (as the media will never tell them).

    • Agree: Malcolm X-Lax
  124. Here’s another person who doesn’t get that America is a propositional nation and that Old World blood & soil arguments have no place here:

    The problem is that this is the Old World for them and they didn’t go through the magical Ellis Island mystery tour.

    Interestingly, another Republic is feeling the strains of globalism. In a recent poll in France 65% do not feel attachment to the terms “Republic” or “republican values”. The percentage goes up to 70% in the 18-24 bracket.

    http://www.atlantico.fr/decryptage/sondage-65-francais-ne-sont-plus-sensibles-aux-termes-republique-et-valeurs-republicaines-jerome-fourquet-vincent-tournier-2134825.html

  125. @Tiny Duck
    Demography is destiny. How does it feel ? Knowing that you have lost and set at the mercy of those you continually degrade?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Zed, Lord of the Brutals, @Difference Maker, @bomag, @Threecranes, @Forbes, @syonredux, @dumpstersquirrel, @Malcolm X-Lax, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    “Knowing that you have lost and set [sic] at the mercy of those you continually degrade?”

    The word you’re looking for is “sit,” but the voice recognition on your White-invented smartphone got it wrong and your IQ is too low to catch the error.

    Welcome to the current year.

  126. @Boomstick
    @Anonym

    I blame Nicholas Trist, who botched the treaty that ended the Mexican-American war. A border that runs from roughly Big Bend, TX, to the Gulf of California, plus a US Baja California, would have shortened the current border by 500 miles. It would have been mostly desert and away from population centers, too.

    Plus it would have gained the secured the crucial surfing grounds of Baja for the US.

    Replies: @Anonym

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Trist

    Thanks for adding that to the discussion. Yes, Trist seems like a corrupt and incompetent person, and it is unfortunate that Polk sent him to do that job. So it seems that the US has unfinished business. In this flexible and fluid border situation, the border location ought to be looked at again.

    If Trump knows anything, it is that the key thing to understand about real estate is Location, Location, Location. I know with Mexico paying for the wall, cost is less an issue but still I think this merits some discussion if for nothing else than to move the Overton window.

  127. @Twinkie
    One of the most redeeming qualities of Trump is his enemies. He is so terribly fortunate in his enemies.

    I find Trump very distasteful and embarrassing, but when I see his enemies, my urge to vote for the man increases exponentially.

    Replies: @Priss Factor, @dumpstersquirrel, @Anonymous

    “One of the most redeeming qualities of Trump is his enemies. He is so terribly fortunate in his enemies.”

    Megadittos.

  128. Priss Factor [AKA "Polly Perkins"] says:

    Carlos Slim…

    should we see him as Mexican or a Globalist Semite(an Arab one) or Globite?

    People like Soros and Slim have no country. All the world is their domain.

    To call him Mexican is like calling a bird that flies over Mexico a Mexican bird.
    But it’s the sort of creature that flies all over.

  129. @Anonymous
    @Big Bill

    THIS is not Mexico. The Mexican flag means less than nothing here. If that's want you want to fly then go back to where that flag means something.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    THIS is not Mexico

    That picture is more Mexico than it is Fargo or Ishpeming. The only thing that comes across as American is the paving on the road.

  130. @anon
    @syonredux

    The Frankfurt school types escaped to the US and then re-infected Europe from the US due to the US' post-war cultural power in media, academia.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Reg Cæsar

    The Frankfurt school types escaped to the US and then re-infected Europe from the US due to the US’ post-war cultural power in media, academia…

    …starting with Elvis.

  131. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin


    Here’s a short video filmed off KTLA’s live feed of the anti-Trump mob attacking a police car
     
    PILOT #1
    We're over the village right now.
    I think I see a vehicle down in the courtyard.
    I'm gonna check it out.

    KILGORE
    Well done, Hawks. Well done.
    Want some twenty-Mike-Mike-Vulcan right along those bean-lines.
    Ripple the shit out of them.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    PILOT #1
    We’re over the village right now.
    I think I see a vehicle down in the courtyard.
    I’m gonna check it out.

    KILGORE
    Well done, Hawks. Well done.
    Want some twenty-Mike-Mike-Vulcan right along those bean-lines.
    Ripple the shit out of them.

    Get ya a case of beer for that one.

  132. @Bill
    @(((Owen)))

    Coarse features, big thighs, repulsive personality: what's not to like? Give her ten years, and she'll look like Jabe's wife.

    On the upside, Mexican cop attire is so cool. I dig the kevlar vest worn outside the shirt. Even more, I dig that mystery-fabric light sweater with the Sam Browne belt. They need better hats, though. If they would pair their current uniform with something really cool like PA State Trooper hats, that would be the absolute bomb. Actually, that picture does not do it justice, most troopers wear the chin strap under their lower lip . . . ah, like this.

    Replies: @(((Owen)))

    Coarse features, big thighs, repulsive personality: what’s not to like?

    Eleven reasons why you’d never want to sleep with Lady 100 Pesos from Mexico’s Finest News Source:

    http://eldeforma.com/2016/04/27/11-razones-por-las-que-jamas-te-querras-acostar-con-lady-100-pesos/

    Give her ten years, and she’ll look like Jabe’s wife.

    That is a very naïve view of Mexican class politics. Columba was not from the ladies nice social stratum.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @(((Owen)))

    Mexican ladies have a bad reputation... in Latin America! Upper or lower class, it doesn't matter, they tend to be trashy.

  133. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @syonredux
    @fnn


    Or you could say that LBJ’s Vietnam War and Great Society combination punch created the objective conditions for 1968.
     
    Or maybe it was the Six-Day War? Cf the role played by Jews like Daniel Marc Cohn-Bendit...

    Then look to Woodrow Wilson and FDR for the roots of LBJism and we’re back in the vicinity of self-righteous messianic Protestantism. Wilson was certainly worse than any member of the Frankfurt School and indeed the Frankfurt School would have never existed if Wilson had been strangled in the cradle per the fantasy of Gore Vidal.
     
    Dunno, dear boy. It seems to me that the genealogy of the Frankfurt School includes a lot of Continental figures: Rousseau, Hegel, Feuerbach, Marx, Nietzsche,Freud, etc, etc

    As for killing little Tommy Wilson in the cradle, thereby averting a host of evils.....Dunno, one could make the same claim about German intransigence during the whole 1914-18 mess. I mean, the Germans were the ones who shipped Lenin to Russia (sealed up like a bacillus, as Churchill remarked)....

    As for what a German victory might have brought:


    It is also false to assert that German culture was driven to insanity by a pervasive sense of defeat. The 1920s were the age of the Lost Generation in America and the Bright Young Things in Britain.

    A reader ignorant of the history of the 20th century who was given samples from this literature that did not contain actual references to the war could reasonably conclude that he was reading the literature of defeated peoples. There was indeed insanity in culture in the 1920s, but the insanity pervaded the whole West.

    Weimar culture would have happened even if there had been no Weimar Republic. We know this, since all the major themes of the Weimar period, the new art and revolutionary politics and sexual liberation, all began before the war. This was a major argument of the remarkable book, RITES OF SPRING, by the Canadian scholar, Modris Ekstein. There would still have been Bauhaus architecture and surrealist cinema and depressing war novels if the Kaiser had issued a victory proclamation in late 1918 rather than an instrument of abdication. There would even have been a DECLINE OF THE WEST by Oswald Spengler in 1918. He began working on it years before the war. The book was, in fact, written in part to explain the significance of a German victory.

    These things were simply extensions of the trends that had dominated German culture for a generation. They grew logically out of Nietzsche and Wagner and Freud. A different outcome in the First World War would probably have made the political right less suspicious of modernity, for the simple reason that left wing politics would not have been anywhere nearly as fashionable among artists as such politics were in defeat.
     

    http://www.firstworldwar.com/features/ifgermany.htm

    Replies: @The most deplorable one

    A different outcome in the First World War would probably have made the political right less suspicious of modernity,

    Just what is modernity? Is it grown men pretending to feel like women so they can indulge their prurient interests by going into the women’s restroom?

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @The most deplorable one


    A different outcome in the First World War would probably have made the political right less suspicious of modernity,

    Just what is modernity? Is it grown men pretending to feel like women so they can indulge their prurient interests by going into the women’s restroom?
     
    Along those lines, it's interesting to note the prurient aspects of the pre-WWI "Teutonosphere": Sacher-Masoch (author of Venus in Furs and the source of the word "masochism"), Strauss' Salome, Heinrich Mann's Professor Unrat (which gave us The Blue Angel), Ewers' Alraune and The Sorcerer's Apprentice, etc

    All the decadence that we associate with Weimar Germany was already in existence by 1914.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

  134. These Mexicans probably don’t even speak English, much less read their signs. They’re probably getting paid by Soros, Ayers or any other of their ilk.
    I bet these Mexicans don’t even know what they’re protesting!
    Look at them! Destroying property, blocking traffic.
    Whomever they’re protesting will get my vote!

  135. @I.W.
    @officious intermeddler

    Showing yet again who owns and controls mainstream media. If Kerry et al succeed in getting control of the Internet, most will not get news at all.

    Replies: @Boomstick

    Control of the internet–at least the part most people see–is also becoming concentrated in just a few companies like facebook and Google. It’s not exactly unthinkable for Google to tweak their search algorithms to favor certain sorts of stories and hide others.

  136. @Tiny Duck
    Demography is destiny. How does it feel ? Knowing that you have lost and set at the mercy of those you continually degrade?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Zed, Lord of the Brutals, @Difference Maker, @bomag, @Threecranes, @Forbes, @syonredux, @dumpstersquirrel, @Malcolm X-Lax, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    I’m reminded of Mencken’s observation of the arabs, who he said “breed like flies but die in the same way.”

  137. @Dave Pinsen
    Trump's at 35 cents on PredictIt: https://www.predictit.org/Market/1234/Who-will-win-the-2016-US-presidential-election

    200 shares will cost you $45 ($70 minus the $25 voucher you can get if you Tweet at PredictIt on Twitter). If Trump wins in November, you'll get back $180 after PredicIt's vig. You can throw some of that to Steve as a donation, and then take the rest and meet up with fellow iSteve readers for a high-end steak dinner to celebrate.

    Replies: @Lot, @WowJustWow

    I wouldn’t expect PredictIt to produce credible odds. They take a 5% cut of your account balance when you cash out. Not of your profit — your balance. (Although they take 10% of your profit too.) With a fee structure like that, it’s not worth attempting any strategy (besides buying and holding until November 8) unless you believe you could make significant returns. So unlike Intrade, it can’t function as a credible prediction market.

    (I made about a 40% profit on Intrade during the 2012 election. Luckily I cashed out before all their money went missing. Maybe their CEO climbed to his icy grave on Mount Everest on purpose. I miss that site.)

  138. Not really terribly smart about their visuals, are they?

    Or they’re very smart. One conspiracy theory had it that Bill Clinton seduced Trump into running because it would create an easy road for Hillary. The protesters could be acting in their self-perceived interests in getting a Democrat elected in the general.

    [Oh, that’s right, you think Trump’s got a chance.]

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    I do think Trump has a chance. In fact, I think he'll win the presidency. Of course, I may be wrong. But even if I am wrong he has moved the window of discussion on the most important topics, sharpened the differences, exposed the Republican establishment for their whoring, and the Democrats for their treason.

    Even if Trump loses, we win.

  139. @Stephen R. Diamond

    Not really terribly smart about their visuals, are they?
     
    Or they're very smart. One conspiracy theory had it that Bill Clinton seduced Trump into running because it would create an easy road for Hillary. The protesters could be acting in their self-perceived interests in getting a Democrat elected in the general.

    [Oh, that's right, you think Trump's got a chance.]

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

    I do think Trump has a chance. In fact, I think he’ll win the presidency. Of course, I may be wrong. But even if I am wrong he has moved the window of discussion on the most important topics, sharpened the differences, exposed the Republican establishment for their whoring, and the Democrats for their treason.

    Even if Trump loses, we win.

  140. @Wally
    Nothing like recruiting more support for Trump.

    But then no one ever accused Mexicans of being smart.

    Replies: @Realist, @Perspective

    Think of how much money Trump is saving by these morons unintentionally campaigning for him.

  141. @Tiny Duck
    Demography is destiny. How does it feel ? Knowing that you have lost and set at the mercy of those you continually degrade?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Zed, Lord of the Brutals, @Difference Maker, @bomag, @Threecranes, @Forbes, @syonredux, @dumpstersquirrel, @Malcolm X-Lax, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    I am sorry, I thought you were a serious troll. I should have noticed that no troll would pick Dick Suck as their name. Instead, I now discover you are a false flag operator. But do you really think you need to be the megaphone that amplifies the stupidity of the left to achieve the result you desire (but supposedly oppose)?

    When the dam bursts you may regret fanning the nationalist, nativist, middle-finger-to-the-elites-faction flames. The horse you rode in on might be up to its bridle in blood. And if you fall off you’ll drown in the pool you worked so hard to create.

  142. @carol
    @Jefferson

    I worked in Las Vegas off and on between 1969 and 2004, and couldn't get over how there were NO Mexicans, anywhere. Not even the laborors, waiters, busboys, or bar boys. It was all white kids from the local schools or guys who moved up from LA or from back East during a divorce. If a guy wanted to be a bartender, he had to be a bar boy 6 mo. per union rules. Musicians union also had a 6 mo wait period. There were lots of Jews and Italians..very few colored acts in the showrooms.

    What a different world that was.

    Replies: @Anon

    I went to a meeting at a major American airline in Texas a few months back. I stood in the lobby for about 30 minutes right around the time employees were coming and going. Not a lot of Americans. All H1Bs. America!

  143. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    People have a right to protest, I agree, but there is a right way and wrong way to protest. The intelligent people in a civil way. The unintelligent people protest in a hateful, property destroying way and act like a bunch of wild monkeys jumping on cars etc. simple as that. I personally consider these protestors at the Calif. rally a bunch of unintelligent thugs.

  144. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    You know these idiots are screaming out Mexico (Meh-he-Co) and waving their precious mexican flag. Trump should stand before them and let them know if they want to go home so bad he will send them there SOON enough. This is All Obama’s fault for bringing them here. We dont want them here — They apparently dont WANT to be here otherwise why would they be waving the Mexican Flag and Shouting out Meh-he-CO! Meh-He-CO! I guess they want to go home now!

    DEPORT THEM ALL! EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM! They are cockroaches to our system and our way of life.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonymous


    You know these idiots are screaming out Mexico (Meh-he-Co)
     
    They're not saying that; they're saying something else and you're trying to disguise it.
  145. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Andrew
    @syonredux

    "The hardcore nationalists would never go for it. Here’s Ben-Gurion:"

    And why should they?

    Some of history's most amazing photos are that of the Israeli Army troops liberating the Temple Mount in 1967. Anyone with any national or religious sense would understand the significance and emotion involved.

    Only a clueless Jew hater would fail to comprehend and suggest something so stupid as evacuating Israel.

    Since the Berlin Wall already fell and Russia bloodlessly recaptured Crimea, the only thing I could think of to rival 1967 would be a Greek or Russian army capturing Hagia Sophia.

    Again anyone with slightest bit of national consciousness should understand and appreciate this.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    You make an apt comparison.

    Greeks evicting people from their homes in order to confiscate land where their ancestors haven’t lived for 33 generations (or Russians evicting people in order to confiscate land where their ancestors never lived).

    Jews evicting people from their homes in order to confiscate land where their ancestors hadn’t lived for 95 generations.

    Those would indeed be very similar events.

  146. @Big Bill
    "Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico"

    -- Vincente Fox

    Replies: @Nico, @Louis Renault, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Are, people forgetting that they live in that part of America before Europeans did.if, your a citizen of this country, no. Matter where your from your an American.if, not they shouldbe deported back where you came from.

  147. OK. Now I’m pissed off. And I really wish I had moved to Boise instead of Albuquerque (because I don’t want to be here if the shit hits the fan).

  148. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Are, people forgetting that they live in that part of America before Europeans did”

    Most of them in California came up from Mexico as refugees from the Mexican Revolution, the most bloody phase which lasted from around 1910 to 1920. The Revolution didn’t really end till around 1940.

    A lot of the recent arrivals are from the Yucatan. Very far from California. Unless they all look the same to you.

    Often in Mexican restaurants in the US you see pictures of squads of Mexicans child soldiers with rifles and cartridge belts. Enemies or friends?

    Viva la revolución! Coming soon to a place near you?

    Spain itself first moved into California and established the missions to
    counter the Russians coming down the California coast.

  149. @Twinkie
    One of the most redeeming qualities of Trump is his enemies. He is so terribly fortunate in his enemies.

    I find Trump very distasteful and embarrassing, but when I see his enemies, my urge to vote for the man increases exponentially.

    Replies: @Priss Factor, @dumpstersquirrel, @Anonymous

    My feelings exactly. Trump’s enemies are impressively loathsome.

  150. “Demography is destiny. How does it feel ? Knowing that you have lost and set at the mercy of those you continually degrade?”

    Maybe this is what you mean? Careful what you wish for and all that.

  151. @syonredux
    @Tiny Duck


    Knowing that you have lost and set at the mercy of those you continually degrade?
     
    MMM, is it possible to "degrade" a Mexican Mestizo?You know, bearing in mind the fact that Mexican is a synonym for mediocrity?

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “MMM, is it possible to “degrade” a Mexican Mestizo?You know, bearing in mind the fact that Mexican is a synonym for mediocrity?”

    If you want to degrade a Mexixan, tell him or her that the Mexican national football team is inferior to Brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay. Tell them Mexico will NEVER win a World Cup.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Jefferson


    Tell them Mexico will NEVER win a World Cup.
     
    but only if they're very small and on their own.
  152. @The most deplorable one
    @syonredux


    A different outcome in the First World War would probably have made the political right less suspicious of modernity,
     
    Just what is modernity? Is it grown men pretending to feel like women so they can indulge their prurient interests by going into the women's restroom?

    Replies: @syonredux

    A different outcome in the First World War would probably have made the political right less suspicious of modernity,

    Just what is modernity? Is it grown men pretending to feel like women so they can indulge their prurient interests by going into the women’s restroom?

    Along those lines, it’s interesting to note the prurient aspects of the pre-WWI “Teutonosphere”: Sacher-Masoch (author of Venus in Furs and the source of the word “masochism”), Strauss’ Salome, Heinrich Mann’s Professor Unrat (which gave us The Blue Angel), Ewers’ Alraune and The Sorcerer’s Apprentice, etc

    All the decadence that we associate with Weimar Germany was already in existence by 1914.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @syonredux

    Might be worth keeping in mind that Strauss' opera was based on a German translation of British author Oscar Wilde's play, which was written in French. All the decadence we associate with Weimar Germany was present in France and England since the 1880's.

  153. @syonredux
    @The most deplorable one


    A different outcome in the First World War would probably have made the political right less suspicious of modernity,

    Just what is modernity? Is it grown men pretending to feel like women so they can indulge their prurient interests by going into the women’s restroom?
     
    Along those lines, it's interesting to note the prurient aspects of the pre-WWI "Teutonosphere": Sacher-Masoch (author of Venus in Furs and the source of the word "masochism"), Strauss' Salome, Heinrich Mann's Professor Unrat (which gave us The Blue Angel), Ewers' Alraune and The Sorcerer's Apprentice, etc

    All the decadence that we associate with Weimar Germany was already in existence by 1914.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    Might be worth keeping in mind that Strauss’ opera was based on a German translation of British author Oscar Wilde’s play, which was written in French. All the decadence we associate with Weimar Germany was present in France and England since the 1880’s.

  154. @officious intermeddler
    @Boomstick

    Here's a link to the LA Times story: not a single Mexican flag to be seen, just a huge picture of an obviously Mexican protester draped in the American flag.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-gays-for-trump-crowd-gathers-at-costa-mesa-rally-20160428-story.html

    Replies: @I.W., @Jim Don Bob, @officious intermeddler

    Update: The picture of the flag-draped male Mexican protester has been replaced by a picture of a female protester of somewhat less determinate race holding a peace sign.

    There’s also a photo gallery of 28 pictures. Only one of them shows a protester waving a Mexican flag. In at least two of them, though, the picture has been carefully cropped so that the Mexican flag does not show. You can find the originals elsewhere on the internet with the flags showing.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-gays-for-trump-crowd-gathers-at-costa-mesa-rally-20160428-story.html

  155. @(((Owen)))
    @Bill


    Coarse features, big thighs, repulsive personality: what’s not to like?
     
    Eleven reasons why you'd never want to sleep with Lady 100 Pesos from Mexico's Finest News Source:

    http://eldeforma.com/2016/04/27/11-razones-por-las-que-jamas-te-querras-acostar-con-lady-100-pesos/


    Give her ten years, and she’ll look like Jabe’s wife.
     
    That is a very naïve view of Mexican class politics. Columba was not from the ladies nice social stratum.

    Replies: @BB753

    Mexican ladies have a bad reputation… in Latin America! Upper or lower class, it doesn’t matter, they tend to be trashy.

  156. @Laugh Track
    I think that some SJWs, BLM types, and other identity protesters are so certain of their own rightness in opposing "oppression", "Fascism", "Trumpism", or whatever ism they project on those they hate, that they are oblivious to how they are coming across and how they are actually helping the side they oppose.

    Nearly any demonstration that disrupts "business as usual", which is to say which blocks commuters trying to get home, etc. just pisses off everyone stuck in traffic due to the demonstration. Add Mexican flags to it and it just feeds support for Trump.

    This is not rocket science, but apparently many of these folks do not have a clue.

    Replies: @Ed, @guest, @Anonymous

    Black Lives Matters is being funded by the muslum brohood.

  157. @V Vega
    @Anonymous

    "Basically, Livingstone, rather astonishingly, described Adolf Hitler as a ‘Zionist’."

    While not exactly the case, it's not that astonishing, since it's been fairly well documented that Hitler was cooperating to establish Israel with certain Zionist factions.

    Here's a link of a news report when the book that explained "The Transfer Agreement" was published. The author was Jewish, and his parents were appalled:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8_bFF8c-Jk

    Here's a more recent interview on cspan with the author:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-SC9DFopGw

    The facts as related in the book tends to upset some people, particularly some jewish people, since apparently the prime directive of managing information on the jewish holocaust is that one can never imply that jews, collectively, or individually, might have inadvertently "brought it on themselves," as well as the notion that Hitler had 101 problems, and the jews were only one of them, rather than casting jews as an irresistible scapegoat whom Hitler wanted to expel from the planet in short order regardless of the consequences.

    In any case, Livingston is overreaching the limits of the truth, when referring to Hitler as a Zionist simply because Hitler cooperated with Zionists to establish Israel–but he's not hallucinating.

    I would conclude that jewish leadership was so fractured at the time, that initiating the agreement became impossible. Not necessarily anybody's fault, it's just the way the dice rolled at that time. If you believe timing is everything in political discourse, the timing was bad for the Transfer Agreement to work.

    The book is available on Amazon.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Another well kept secret is this:

    A number of Jewish German groups in fact were supportive of the Nuremberg Laws. They had a certain harmony with Judaism’s central theme of segregation.

  158. @Jefferson
    @syonredux

    "MMM, is it possible to “degrade” a Mexican Mestizo?You know, bearing in mind the fact that Mexican is a synonym for mediocrity?"

    If you want to degrade a Mexixan, tell him or her that the Mexican national football team is inferior to Brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay. Tell them Mexico will NEVER win a World Cup.

    Replies: @anon

    Tell them Mexico will NEVER win a World Cup.

    but only if they’re very small and on their own.

  159. @Anonymous
    You know these idiots are screaming out Mexico (Meh-he-Co) and waving their precious mexican flag. Trump should stand before them and let them know if they want to go home so bad he will send them there SOON enough. This is All Obama's fault for bringing them here. We dont want them here -- They apparently dont WANT to be here otherwise why would they be waving the Mexican Flag and Shouting out Meh-he-CO! Meh-He-CO! I guess they want to go home now!

    DEPORT THEM ALL! EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM! They are cockroaches to our system and our way of life.

    Replies: @anon

    You know these idiots are screaming out Mexico (Meh-he-Co)

    They’re not saying that; they’re saying something else and you’re trying to disguise it.

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