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A friend points out that the Memphis Five beating of Tyre Nichols contrasts sharply with the LAPD’s notorious beating of Rodney King. Rodney was a big strong man who kept getting up to fight the cops, who seem to have at least been trained in a process of what to do in such situations.
Here’s a g ood table of the process the L.A. cops went through trying to subdue King:
Level 1: Physical Presence
Normally, just the physical presence of police officers is enough to convince suspects to cooperate. … In the King case, however, the presence of four squad cars ( with lights on and sirens blaring), a police helicopter overhead, and several officers with guns drawn and pointing at King failed to produce the desired level of cooperation.Level 2: Verbalization
When physical presence is not enough to ensure cooperation, LAPD officers were taught to issue verbal commands to suspects. The Holliday videotape indicates that King received at least fourteen commands to “get down.” Officers wanted King to lie in a prone position on his belly with his head down and hands behind his back. King did not comply with the commands.Level 3: Swarming
Confrontations usually can be ended with a group of officers swarming the suspect and bringing him to the ground. In the King case, Sergeant Koon ordered his officers to swarm the suspect. King succeeded, however, in repelling the attack.
The LAPD had recently abolished use of chokeholds for subduing obdurate suspects after a number of black male suspects had died.
Level 4: TASER (Tom A Swift Electric Rifle) Use
Tasing a suspect will usually knock a suspect to the ground, enabling him to be subdued and arrested. In the King case, Sgt. Koon zapped King with two Tasers (each zap carrying 50,000 volts). The TASER knocked King to his knees, but he was able to rise again and charge at one of the LAPD officers (Powell).Level 5: Use of PR 24 Metal Batons
The Holliday videotape shows LAPD officers repeatedly striking (by one count 56 swings, resulting in 31 hits) King with PR 24 metal batons. Officers are instructed to use the batons against the body mass of the suspect, then step back to evaluate whether the suspect has been sufficiently incapacitated to be arrested.
Eventually, that proved sufficient, so Level 6 was not reached.
Level 6: Use of Deadly Force
When none of the above options succeed in subduing a suspect (or for some reason are not available as options), LAPD policy authorized the use of deadly force–usually a gun–in felony cases where some imminent safety risk was presented by the suspect.
When jurors and judges had a chance to study the Rodney King videotape closely, they tended to come to feel only the last few blows on King were excessive. I can recall an interview with three jurors from the second it’s-not-double-jeopardy-if-everybody-wants-send-you-up trial saying the jurors voted to convict only on the last single blow as beyond a reasonable doubt unjustified by King’s actions. The 2nd trial judge thought the last 6 blows, out of over 50, were unjustified
From Wikipedia:
During the three-hour sentencing hearing, US District Judge John G. Davies accepted much of the defense version of the beating. He strongly criticized King, who, he said, provoked the officers’ initial actions. Davies said that only the final six or so baton blows by Powell were unlawful. The first 55 seconds of the videotaped portion of the incident, during which the vast majority of the blows were delivered, was within the law because the officers were attempting to subdue a suspect who was resisting efforts to take him into custody.
In contrast, a friend’s opinion of Memphis video is that it looks much more like a typical World Star Hip Hop video of five guys stomping one guy out behind the rap club.
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Wasn’t Stacey Koon’s first reaction to finding out the arrest was videotaped joy because they’d followed LAPD procedure and had real-world footage to show at the academy?
Or maybe a beat down that got out of control?
“The Memphis Police Department is currently investigating rumors regarding a possible connection between Tyre Nichols and the ex-wife or ex-girlfriend of one of the Memphis cops arrested and charged in Nichols’ death.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/tyre-nichols-connection-to-cops-ex-wife-under-investigation/
Related question: Has anyone ever found the full, unedited King tape? I once spent half an hour searching for it on the internet, and all I could find were the edited-for-TV clips that make it look as bad as possible.
Both are a symptom of the same problem (negroes can't function in the WC without intensive local authority) but instead of lamenting over which Beatle's drug use improved their music the most, I dunno, maybe some discussion about white kids being terrorized in grade school by primordial bipeds?Replies: @Dutch Boy, @HammerJack, @Danindc, @ATBOTL
Systemic racism determined police brutality (by African American cops) is a specific instance of Typical World Star Hip-Hop Behavior.
I suppose that’s TWSHHB for short? { snicker }
There’s some definitional quibble about whether African American hatred for each other is “racism”. I won’t be doctrinaire on that point. But it certainly is built into their culture, hence “systemic”.
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Steve, this whole Chinese balloon drama reminded me the late great American hero, Lawnchair Larry.
https://search.brave.com/images?q=zeppelin+kommt+poster&source=web&img=2
https://youtu.be/AttKPD53OLo
The real question is, What proportion of the balloon's crew is transgender?
Also, in 1980s California, you had Marine Lance Corporal Howard Foote. He was an experienced glider pilot as a kid--even set some records. He joined the Marines to be a fighter pilot. However, his previous high altitude exploits had led to a medical condition that disqualified him from being a military pilot, but not from enlisting. Long story short, he went in, found out he could never be a Marine pilot, and faced four years as an aircraft mechanic.
On 4th of July night in 1986, he snuck on to his unit's flight line, started up an A4 attack plane and took off on a 45 min. joyride (or joyflight). He landed safely. While he was initially in a world of trouble, the Marines dropped the charges.
https://theaviationgeekclub.com/the-story-of-the-marine-mechanic-who-stole-an-a-4m-skyhawk-for-a-joyride/
This criticism of the last few blows is really a great illustration of the stupidity of our society. It’s as though someone with no grasp of physics and no driving experience were to get angry at a driver because the car did not literally and completely stop as soon as the brakes were applied.
OT: Hmmmmmm.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/beauty/las-vegas-valley-nail-salons-face-spike-of-customers-skipping-bills/ar-AA173Hou?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a859ead30c674ce3a8393d0d3fd28567
The rules are different since the Killing of St George. Now it’s mainly a matter of how many millions the taxpayers have to pay to any negro who doesn’t feel like being arrested, or his next of kin.
If the cops are black, blame white people. If a negro runs over a white doctor on purpose, blame Robin DeAngelo and Ibram Kendi. Both of whom will be sharing next year’s Nobel Peace Prize btw.
I think I’ve covered it. Blame white people!
The Capitol Police don’t have to follow such elaborate rules, they can go straight to Level 6. Same thing with FBI and US Marshalls at Ruby Ridge. IIRC, at Waco the idiot ATF started the initial firefight by shooting the dogs and apparently didn’t think the Branch Davidians would return fire. The Branch Davidians won that round and could have killed them all if they’d wanted to.
More Blessings of Diversity, Latino Style. Pregnant at 15, dead at 16 along with her baby too.
We now have cartel massacres right here at home. You know what’s next, don’t you? The whole deal: torture murders, decapitations, bodies hanging from bridges.
Lori Lightfoot: “Mutual combatants just need love!” Barack Obama: “Those boys could be my sons!” President Brandon: “Did someone say pudding?”
OT — Harvard has shut down Joan Donovan’s misinformation lab, which was like an academic foreshock of Janky’s Ministry of Censorship.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11710991/Harvard-shuts-misinformation-program-releases-director-skeptical-Hunter-Biden-laptop.html
“WorldStar HipHop video”, accurate, buy RAYCISS!
LAPD, Suge Knight, Death Row Records template. You’re right.
Everyone here critiquing these police who in real life has also had to handcuff a grown man who really didn’t want to be handcuffed please raise your hand, you’re the only ones I want to talk to about this.
Everything’s going to hell, but at least our military is still a beacon of successful diversity in action.
# ‘Muricah
#ThankYouForYourService
#IDon’tSeeColor
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/12/02/five-10th-mountain-soldiers-arrested-rape-charges.html
Jesus, these people have even gone to inventing surnames.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11710991/Harvard-shuts-misinformation-program-releases-director-skeptical-Hunter-Biden-laptop.htmlReplies: @Ron Mexico
This land-whale dresses like Uncle Festerman. How does anyone take these people seriously?
She’s a repulsive pig, but that’s a plus in the wokestack. What’s more disappointing is that the DM doesn’t get around to mentioning Ukraine until paragraph 32, having posted its usual ‘Hunter & The Hoes’ photos prominently upthread.
This helps to keep alive the Dem talking point about how it’s just little Hunter being naughty as opposed to the Bidens selling influence abroad.
With the GOPe being fully on board ... it just doesn't matter for the forseable future. We know the truth, that's enough for now.Replies: @HammerJack
Yes. Reminder: we could have completely avoided war and all those deaths, had every major mainstream journalist not agreed to lie about a major news story about a presidential candidate.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/12/02/five-10th-mountain-soldiers-arrested-rape-charges.htmlReplies: @Renard, @Jim Bob Lassiter
You almost had me for a moment there! But I looked them up and it turns out those were the pilots of the Korean airliner that skidded into SFO.
BtW. Three station employees were fired. Here’s one of the producers who got the axe:
Huffpo only noticed one error, which they called a typo.
BtW. The station also engaged in a struggle session with the Asian American Pilots Association. No word on the outcome of that.
Steve, this whole Chinese balloon drama reminded me the late great American hero, Lawnchair Larry.Replies: @Another Canadian, @Mike Tre, @New Dealer, @AceDeuce
The Chinese Spy Balloon drama seems more like an antiquarian panic…Zeppelin kommt!
https://search.brave.com/images?q=zeppelin+kommt+poster&source=web&img=2
"The Memphis Police Department is currently investigating rumors regarding a possible connection between Tyre Nichols and the ex-wife or ex-girlfriend of one of the Memphis cops arrested and charged in Nichols' death."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/tyre-nichols-connection-to-cops-ex-wife-under-investigation/Replies: @Gabe Ruth
Wow, memory holed in less than 12 hours.
She probably said the enword.
It’s interesting that the daily harassment and assaults of white children in public school settings by negroes – all of which are documented by cell phone video – doesn’t really seem to cross Sailer’s radar, but negro traffic stupidity does.
Both are a symptom of the same problem (negroes can’t function in the WC without intensive local authority) but instead of lamenting over which Beatle’s drug use improved their music the most, I dunno, maybe some discussion about white kids being terrorized in grade school by primordial bipeds?
True to form, a white girl started a rumor that the victim must have called his assailant the n-word. Said victim insisted that nothing of the kind had happened. Anyway, he was allowed to withdraw from school. The victim, that is.
How much has changed since then?
Things have gotten worse.Replies: @Anonymous
Steve, this whole Chinese balloon drama reminded me the late great American hero, Lawnchair Larry.Replies: @Another Canadian, @Mike Tre, @New Dealer, @AceDeuce
This guy pulls off a similar feat; paragliding on a loveseat, with a flat screen TV and a little table lamp. He even nails the landing.
You … do realize this is the tabloid Daily Mail??? I would suspect the article itself was disinformation if their usual priorities were reversed.
“What difference at this point does it make?” The usual suspects have managed to effectively spike the Biden ties to the Ukraine issue. Despite Joe Biden on video boasting about getting a related prosecutor fired, and that is should be a red hot issue given that “Biden” is using the country for a full spectrum proxy war with nuclear armed Russia with lots more money corruptly flowing through it.
With the GOPe being fully on board … it just doesn’t matter for the forseable future. We know the truth, that’s enough for now.
Separately, about the DM: yes they’re a tabloid but so what? They've also made an incredible number of significant scoops, and on a daily basis report basic facts about our own society that our own MSM won't touch.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/mckinsey-on-the-unbearable-whiteness-of-running/#comment-5720445
That's not necessarily a scoop, but it is relevant.Replies: @That Would Be Telling
https://www.kalb.com/2022/12/02/fort-polk-releases-more-information-five-soldiers-arrested-sexual-assault/
Pics at this link….the men are supposedly from all over the country but it looks like a recruiter desperate to make quota went to the local MS-13 hangout and asked if they had any guys with no facial tats who wanted weapons training.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/12/02/five-10th-mountain-soldiers-arrested-rape-charges.htmlReplies: @Renard, @Jim Bob Lassiter
Cyrusmoises Labial ??
Jesus, these people have even gone to inventing surnames.
PopThe Rodney King debacle is the perfect example of everything that’s wrong with race relations in our country. If you’re a white person and a black is involved, you’ll always lose. Even if you do everything right. Even if you have nothing but the best intentions. Even if you love blacks. Even if the black is, as they so often are, the absolute worst humanity has to offer. Black always wins.
Steve is a genius beyond what most people think is remotely capable.
However, as a millennial I think it’s only right to tell you that the word “Rap Club” isn’t a thing.
Perhaps “Hip Hop club”. But in reality, the majority of people, black or white, would just say “the club” and it’s assumed they play black music there.
See 50 Cent’s “In Da Club” for reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S6tr_M0tWM
Isn’t this a textbook case of cultural bias in policing? The white LAPD Officers commanded King to “get down,” meaning to “lie prostrate on the ground,” but when King heard “get down” in his cultural experience it meant to “dance enthusiastically.”
Homestead, FL: 15 y/o boy violently beats tiny 9 y/o girl on school bus.
Awhile back on 4chan there was this claimed event, where a Serb describes his idiot sister going out dressed like Instagram existed (which at the time it did not). Dot dot dot he gets a ring on his mobile (at this time they still flipped) there's these recently arrived gentlemen professing to follow Mohammad, and they won't leave her and her friends alone. Serb + pal mount up. En route they detour at a minigym, and apologize for interrupting the lifters' evening, and explain the situation. Everyone stops and the gymbro in front says, "lead the way, little brother."
The best bit is several hours later, when the policecar stops by, admonishes "don't leave anything for us to bother with," and then incuriously proceeds away.
Steve, this whole Chinese balloon drama reminded me the late great American hero, Lawnchair Larry.Replies: @Another Canadian, @Mike Tre, @New Dealer, @AceDeuce
The mainstream news coverage of the Chinese spy balloon completely and disgracefully misses the point.
The real question is, What proportion of the balloon’s crew is transgender?
Back then I was more of a sucker for news coverage and thought Koon and the boys were guilty. I then started following their first trial closely and realized I had been had. The second “civil rights” trial was a joke, a classic double jeopardy prosecution in an atmosphere of intimidation. The biggest pity was that Koon had actually saved King’s life; had the PD showed up five minutes later the female CHP officer on whom King was advancing would have blown him away. King told her to holster her pistol and the PD took over.
Both are a symptom of the same problem (negroes can't function in the WC without intensive local authority) but instead of lamenting over which Beatle's drug use improved their music the most, I dunno, maybe some discussion about white kids being terrorized in grade school by primordial bipeds?Replies: @Dutch Boy, @HammerJack, @Danindc, @ATBOTL
I had a girlfriend years ago who grew up in Washington, D.C.. Their neighborhood became Africanized in the 60s and she and her brother begged their father to move but he stubbornly refused (they were both tired of the bullying and harassment). God then took a hand, she said, and the block they lived on was condemned to build a public school.
With the GOPe being fully on board ... it just doesn't matter for the forseable future. We know the truth, that's enough for now.Replies: @HammerJack
Agree with your points for the most part, except for that last clause, which I’m not sure about.
Separately, about the DM: yes they’re a tabloid but so what? They’ve also made an incredible number of significant scoops, and on a daily basis report basic facts about our own society that our own MSM won’t touch.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/mckinsey-on-the-unbearable-whiteness-of-running/#comment-5720445
That’s not necessarily a scoop, but it is relevant.
And yes, even having been captured by the U.K. Left as of late the Daily Mail is still a prime source for US news our MSM won't touch. Suspect they're still better at reporting a lot of straight, local US news as well as I've seen in the last decade.
Both are a symptom of the same problem (negroes can't function in the WC without intensive local authority) but instead of lamenting over which Beatle's drug use improved their music the most, I dunno, maybe some discussion about white kids being terrorized in grade school by primordial bipeds?Replies: @Dutch Boy, @HammerJack, @Danindc, @ATBOTL
This has been going on since I was a little kid in the 1970s, at minimum. Among countless instances, I got to see one of my classmates lying unconscious on the corridor floor in a pool of his own blood. Nothing was done about it, and everyone in the school knew who did it.
True to form, a white girl started a rumor that the victim must have called his assailant the n-word. Said victim insisted that nothing of the kind had happened. Anyway, he was allowed to withdraw from school. The victim, that is.
How much has changed since then?
Things have gotten worse.
However, as a millennial I think it’s only right to tell you that the word “Rap Club” isn’t a thing.
Perhaps “Hip Hop club”. But in reality, the majority of people, black or white, would just say “the club” and it’s assumed they play black music there.
See 50 Cent’s “In Da Club” for reference.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5qm8PH4xAssReplies: @Chrisnonymous
In the club that plays white people music…
Steve, this whole Chinese balloon drama reminded me the late great American hero, Lawnchair Larry.Replies: @Another Canadian, @Mike Tre, @New Dealer, @AceDeuce
Sadly, I think the weather balloon/lawn chair guy later committed suicide.
Also, in 1980s California, you had Marine Lance Corporal Howard Foote. He was an experienced glider pilot as a kid–even set some records. He joined the Marines to be a fighter pilot. However, his previous high altitude exploits had led to a medical condition that disqualified him from being a military pilot, but not from enlisting. Long story short, he went in, found out he could never be a Marine pilot, and faced four years as an aircraft mechanic.
On 4th of July night in 1986, he snuck on to his unit’s flight line, started up an A4 attack plane and took off on a 45 min. joyride (or joyflight). He landed safely. While he was initially in a world of trouble, the Marines dropped the charges.
https://theaviationgeekclub.com/the-story-of-the-marine-mechanic-who-stole-an-a-4m-skyhawk-for-a-joyride/
https://twitter.com/i/status/1621503944005668866Replies: @J.Ross
[that one scene in Gone With The Wind]
Awhile back on 4chan there was this claimed event, where a Serb describes his idiot sister going out dressed like Instagram existed (which at the time it did not). Dot dot dot he gets a ring on his mobile (at this time they still flipped) there’s these recently arrived gentlemen professing to follow Mohammad, and they won’t leave her and her friends alone. Serb + pal mount up. En route they detour at a minigym, and apologize for interrupting the lifters’ evening, and explain the situation. Everyone stops and the gymbro in front says, “lead the way, little brother.”
The best bit is several hours later, when the policecar stops by, admonishes “don’t leave anything for us to bother with,” and then incuriously proceeds away.
Separately, about the DM: yes they’re a tabloid but so what? They've also made an incredible number of significant scoops, and on a daily basis report basic facts about our own society that our own MSM won't touch.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/mckinsey-on-the-unbearable-whiteness-of-running/#comment-5720445
That's not necessarily a scoop, but it is relevant.Replies: @That Would Be Telling
That means they’re always going to put salactious sex with a picture! in front of smelly old men corruption details in their story writing style guide.
And yes, even having been captured by the U.K. Left as of late the Daily Mail is still a prime source for US news our MSM won’t touch. Suspect they’re still better at reporting a lot of straight, local US news as well as I’ve seen in the last decade.
Reminiscent of the McMichael trial. Although I think those guys got screwed even worse than the LAPD
Both are a symptom of the same problem (negroes can't function in the WC without intensive local authority) but instead of lamenting over which Beatle's drug use improved their music the most, I dunno, maybe some discussion about white kids being terrorized in grade school by primordial bipeds?Replies: @Dutch Boy, @HammerJack, @Danindc, @ATBOTL
Steve realizes that if you have a vulnerable child in a school w blacks you haven’t been paying attention. It should be obvious to gtfo w this crowd. And as far as the Beatles, it’s his blog and it’s interesting to him and most of us. As Trump said to complainers at Doral CC- maybe this isn’t the club for you.
And you don't get to speak for what Steve thinks unless he specifically told you. Steve is a civnat, and it's clear that he believes negroes are redeemable to some extent, so your contention is false.
I am definitely a complainer, but at least I'm not a suckass.Replies: @Danindc
True to form, a white girl started a rumor that the victim must have called his assailant the n-word. Said victim insisted that nothing of the kind had happened. Anyway, he was allowed to withdraw from school. The victim, that is.
How much has changed since then?
Things have gotten worse.Replies: @Anonymous
I remember speaking to a guy who was in school at the same time. He said there were no major racial problems until Roots was broadcast, when all hell broke loose, with daily fights and beatings for long afterwards.
Speaking of not paying attention, you don’t realize that the government is actively and deliberately inserting the negroes into every community they possibly can? Where do you suggest specifically someone retreat to to avoid them? the moon? Home schooling and coastal gated communities are the only way to avoid the groid, but for most non-cloud people, these aren’t an option.
And you don’t get to speak for what Steve thinks unless he specifically told you. Steve is a civnat, and it’s clear that he believes negroes are redeemable to some extent, so your contention is false.
I am definitely a complainer, but at least I’m not a suckass.
According to your logic the McMichaels had it coming because they didn’t get far enough away from negroes, or something. As if it’s a realistic possibility.
It’s ridiculous to acknowledge 44 blows of a baton were necessary to subdue Mr. King, then second guess the cops by saying the last 6 were illegal. When you’re in a violent situation with adrenaline pumping no one can expect you to instantly decide when to stop. King escalated the situation, a violent situation, and he deserved the consequences.
Roots famously pushed the lie that evil white slave traders penetrated the jungle with their nets and guns to kidnap peaceful Africans who were simply living in harmony with nature.
It all worked out according to plan.
Both are a symptom of the same problem (negroes can't function in the WC without intensive local authority) but instead of lamenting over which Beatle's drug use improved their music the most, I dunno, maybe some discussion about white kids being terrorized in grade school by primordial bipeds?Replies: @Dutch Boy, @HammerJack, @Danindc, @ATBOTL
Generally, older white people show a disturbing lack of empathy for white children. We see the white victims, especially children, being ignored in the discussions here, with too much talk about how to “help blacks.” We need to help white people.
And you don't get to speak for what Steve thinks unless he specifically told you. Steve is a civnat, and it's clear that he believes negroes are redeemable to some extent, so your contention is false.
I am definitely a complainer, but at least I'm not a suckass.Replies: @Danindc
Nutcase – you’re complaining about the highest profile guy who actually does say something about blacks behaving badly. You’re very confused. And as far as “suckass”…why is it always about the ass with you people?