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Melbourne, Australia now has an “African gangs” problems because it’s the Current Year so of course Melbourne has an African gangs problem. Why wouldn’t it? It would be racist for Melbourne not to be plagued by black muggers.

In fact, according to the Australian Establishment, Melbourne has two African gangs problems: the African gangs of street criminals themselves, and, far worse, the Australians who have noticed and even talked about this new problem that the politicians have imported for them to endure.

From SBS News:

Melbourne mayors call for end to ‘African gangs’ talk

By Evan Young

Eight Melbourne mayors have called for unity and end to the talk about so-called “African gangs” which has repeatedly made news headlines this year.

African-Australian leaders in Victoria have said the “gang” rhetoric is an example of fear-mongering and has vilified their community to the point some now feel unwelcome in the state. …

Mayors from Melbourne’s Darebin, Moreland, Whittlesea, Hume, Yarra, Knox, Monash and Melton councils joined Australian-African community leader Maker Mayek in a public show of solidarity in the suburb of Brunswick on Monday.

“We stand together to say that we value the contribution of these residents, deeply appreciate the diversity of culture and experience they bring to our cities,” City of Moreland Mayor John Kavanagh said. …

Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton made headlines in January after claiming Melbournians were “scared to go out at restaurants” at night because of “African gang” violence.

Political talk has raged at a federal, state and local government level ever since. Media coverage has also been continuous.

With Victorians set to head to the polls later this year, City of Whittlesea Mayor Kris Pavlidis accused politicians returning to the “African gang” rhetoric of turning the rift into an election issue.

How can Australia be a democracy when rifts are turned into election issues? The essence of democracy is that elections shouldn’t decide anything.

“The role of political leadership is to unite diverse communities, ensure vulnerable people are given the tools they need to thrive and to dismantle unhelpful stereotypes and prejudice – not to amplify them,” Cr Pavlidis said.

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  1. Man, it’s getting to be where you’d better go see the world really soon or there will be no point. It’s not just the castles in Germany, cafes in France, ruins and cathedrals in Italy, strange flora and fauna Downunder, etc. It’s the people and cultures that lots of us have gone and partaken of that made trips overseas special.

    Why leave the suburbs of Detroit or Chicago to go to any of these places if it’s gonna feel like you are downtown, where you don’t go much …. for a damn good reason?

    Do they have “refugees” in the Galapagos Islands, does anyone know? Maybe that’s where we’ll go. It’s all turtles nowadays anyway. It’s turtles all the way down.

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    • Replies: @Wilkey
    "Man, it’s getting to be where you’d better go see the world really soon or there will be no point. It’s not just the castles in Germany, cafes in France, ruins and cathedrals in Italy, strange flora and fauna Downunder, etc. It’s the people and cultures that lots of us have gone and partaken of that made trips overseas special."

    The sad truth of it is that you're right. What it really reminds me of is that scene in Dances With Wolves where Kevin Costner's character is asked why he wants to be posted to the frontier. "I want to see it before it's gone," he says. The drunkard carting him there looks at Costner like he's an idiot. How can something as vast as "the frontier" ever disappear? Costner and his movie audience know better. The movie audience knows it thanks to hindsight, but Costner's character can see it coming. It's happening to Europe (and America) and we all know it. Some day far too soon nearly everything that makes Europe truly unique will be gone. It took about 300 years from the discovery of Columbus til whites outnumbered natives in the New World. Third Worlders will outpopulate whites in their native countries in less than a third of that time. People in the future will marvel at how rapidly it all happened, and how idiotic the natives were at giving their country away in the name of a stupid, inane, untested political dogma.
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    The point of Diversity is for everybody and everywhere to be like everybody and everywhere else.

    The wilderness areas will go to, in the name of "affordable housing."
    , @Tiny Duck
    Boo hoo

    Cry me a river

    No one cares about your stupid exclusionary civilization. The only reason you have these "wonderful" castles and catherdrals is because you STOLE FROM PEOPLE OF COLOR

    No one wants to look at pale pasty mayonnaise. The sooner we are gone the better

    We are going to create new and better more inclusive institutions and foundations
    , @The preferred nomenclature is...
    The first time I went to Toronto (about 7 years ago) is when it hit me. There is no there anymore. Wherever you go in the West the Third World is very present.
    , @Bard of Bumperstickers
    As soon as the last boatload of rapefugees leaves Somalia, we can turn Mogadishu into a sanctuary city for the civil to escape to. The magic dirt in Europe (and in Lewiston, Maine https://www.google.com/search?q=lewiston+muslim+murder&oq=lewiston+muslim+murder&aqs=chrome..69i57.7952j1j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8) will undoubtedly act as an alembic to transmute the rampaging herd to modernity, and the barren dirt of Africa will starve us white devils. Justice at last!
    , @Ragno
    Achmed old man, a lot of us are - sadly....truly sadly - wayyy ahead of you.

    The only reasons to travel, besides seeing family of course - culture and history and a brief but blessed time-out from one's own constant environment - ceased to be some time ago. Now you can spin a globe, close your eyes, hold out your finger... and anywhere it lands, dollars to drachmas, is just one more flat tire in darktown.
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  2. Hubbub says:

    The role of political leadership is to unite diverse communities, ensure vulnerable people are given the tools they need to thrive and to dismantle unhelpful stereotypes and prejudice – not to amplify them,” Cr Pavlidis said.

    Silly me. For some reason I thought the role of political leadership was…to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity…, but then I obviously don’t understand Australian-Africanese.

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    • Replies: @SMK
    "The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils," Enoch Powell in "Rivers of Blood." Demonstrably, transparently, incontrovertibly true. But some of the words are too grandiose. Replace "supreme" with "common sense" and "statesmanship" with "politics." No Africans, no black crime and gangs in Australia, the UK, etc. No Muslims, no terrorism, knife attacks, acid attacks, rape, gang-rapes, sexual assaults, the "grooming of girls as young and 10 and 11, "honor killings, etc. No Mestizos and pure indios from Mexico and Central America, no "Hispanic" crime and gangs, no MS 13, etc. Sundry evils and "rivers of blood," all preventable.
    , @AnotherDad

    The role of political leadership is to unite diverse communities, ensure vulnerable people are given the tools they need to thrive and to dismantle unhelpful stereotypes and prejudice – not to amplify them,” Cr Pavlidis said.
     
    Yeah, that struck me too. The sheer cloying stupidity of these people is beyond belief.

    However it is said the actual goal of a political leader is to insure the survival and improve the prospects of their clan/tribe/nation.

    Essentially that means:
    -- Defense/warfare -- protect from invasion or if necessary invade someone else
    -- Adjudicate internal disputes -- fair settlement to internal disputes so they don't spiral up into trouble, division, civil war; i.e. rule-of-law

    Then after those basics, leaders in a civilized society can be doing provision of public goods--roads, schools, sewers so life is better and the nation more successful and powerful.

    Nowhere has the charter ever been such a teacly pablum as the above.
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  3. In my 12 years as a daily reader, the English here has always been great. Recently it’s been superb.

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  4. Dtbb says:

    At least they are Australian first.

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  5. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Meanwhile, an Aussie MP uses “final solution” to describe popular vote on Muslim and African immigration. A conspiracy theorist might wonder if he used that phrase to discredit complaints about immigration.

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    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    A conspiracy theorist might wonder if he used that phrase to discredit complaints about immigration.
     
    Your concerned ‘conspiracy theorist’ may be behind the times. The specter of Hitler and the fate of the Six Million is fast losing its remonstrative power as a tool to frighten, shame, and pacify. Regarding Fraser Anning’s refusal (so far) to backpedal from “final solution”: A lot of contemporary spectators are wishfully misinterpreting teeth-baring warnings—from both the right and left—as mere LARPing. The Overton is redshifting in both directions.
    , @Anon
    I think he's trying the Trumpian trick of trolling his enemies so that they end up defending something they shouldn't (e.g. calling MS-13 "animals"). I think this guy might've overshot the mark with the Nazi reference, though. Based on the content alone, they were going to call him a Nazi no matter what, and now he's made that tag easier to stick.
    , @anon
    Senator Anning is facing an Election by June 30 next year. He needs 14.3 % to get up.
    As long as he can hang tough and not apologise, he's a chance.
    , @AndrewR
    Ridiculous. He meant it as in "to settle the immigration issue once and for all." Who can say he had ever even heard of the alleged German Endlösung? Not everyone has had your education.
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  6. Anonymous[323] • Disclaimer says:

    Democracy applied to immigration policy is literally Nazism, though.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/14/australian-senator-calls-for-final-solution-to-immigration-problem

    … He said neither the former Labor prime minister Gough Whitlam, nor any subsequent government, had asked Australians what kind of immigration they wanted. “What we do need a plebiscite for is to decide who comes here.”

    Anning declared on Tuesday the reasons “for ending all further Muslim immigration are both compelling and self-evident”.

    “The record of Muslims who have already come to this country in terms of rates of crime, welfare dependency and terrorism are the worst of any migrant and vastly exceed another immigrant group,” he said.

    “The majority of Muslims in Australia of working age do not work and exist on welfare. Muslims in New South Wales and Victoria are three times more likely than other groups to be convicted of crimes.”

    “We have black African Muslim gangs terrorising Melbourne, we have Isis-sympathising Muslims trying to go overseas to try and fight for Isis and while all Muslims are not terrorists, certainly all terrorists these days are Muslims.

    “So why would anyone want to bring more of them here?”

    … “In the days of Menzies, immigrants arriving here were not allowed to apply for welfare and that attracted exactly the right sort of hardworking people this country needed”.

    “We should go back to that and ban all immigrants from receiving welfare for the first five years after they arrive,” he said.

    The senator then invoked the term “final solution” in calling for his preferred plebiscite on the “immigration problem”.

    “The final solution to the immigration problem, of course, is a popular vote.”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-45191315

    An Australian senator has been widely condemned for a speech that invoked the term “final solution” in a call for immigration restrictions based on race.

    … Political opponents denounced his speech as “disgraceful”. Mr Anning said he did not need to apologise.

    “Final solution” was a term infamously used by the Nazis during the Holocaust.

    In his speech, Mr Anning said “the final solution to the immigration problem is a popular vote”.

    … The senator, a former member of Pauline Hanson’s anti-Islam One Nation Party, called for a return to the White Australia Policy – which restricted non-European immigrants from 1901 until the 1960s.

    Labor’s Senate leader Penny Wong, who was born in Malaysia, said the White Australia Policy had been “rightly consigned to the dustbin of history”.

    … Meanwhile, Australia’s first Muslim female senator, Mehreen Faruqi, who filled a vacant seat on Wednesday, said Mr Anning had “spat in the face of millions of Australians, spewing hate and racism”.
    “I’m a Muslim migrant, I’m about to be a Senator and there’s not a damn thing Fraser Anning can do about it,” she wrote in a piece for website Junkee.

    Yep, that attitude sounds about right.

    … [Prime Minister] Turnbull told parliament: “We need to stand up for what we are… the most successful multicultural society in the world, united by democratic values that do not distinguish between race, religion, colour or cultural background.”

    … Mr Katter said he supported Mr Anning’s speech “1000%” but suggested that his colleague did not know much about the Holocaust.

    “He’s smart, but he hasn’t read all the history books,” Mr Katter told reporters.

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    Mr Anning said “the final solution to the immigration problem is a popular vote.”
     
    Friend, friends. Let us compromise! No more hate! Let's put the "immigration problem" to a popular vote, but with only immigrants voting! As our own major media in America have informed us, immigrants are the only legitimate residents anyway.
    , @bomag
    Thanks for posting.

    I’m a Muslim migrant, I’m about to be a Senator and there’s not a damn thing Fraser Anning can do about it, Mehreen Faruqi wrote
     
    I'm noticing this from the Mehreen Faruqis of the world: they are not telling us that they are making things better; that they are advancing civilization; they just chortle that they've won.

    [Prime Minister] Turnbull told parliament: “We need to stand up for what we are… the most successful multicultural society in the world, united by democratic values that do not distinguish between race, religion, colour or cultural background.”
     
    Sounds like something PM Turnbull says from the steps of the bunker before he goes back in and locks the door behind himself.

    "Most successful multicultural society" is starting to have a hollow ring, like having the most successful car crash in history. Not much to brag about.
    , @jewbanker
    but alas even he (((Mr Anning))) is a self confessed strong supporter of the jewish community. https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/anning-says-final-solution-speech-taken-out-of-context/ar-BBLWh7t?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=mailsignout (around the 4.10 mark)
    , @anonymous
    Even Pauline Hanson, of White Australia, condemned him saying that it was straight from the Nazi handbook. So he has no one for him, essentially.
    , @International Jew

    “He’s smart, but he hasn’t read all the history books,” Mr Katter told reporters.
     
    I listened to most of his speech. Anning seems like an unpretentious salt-of-the-earth kind of guy who just wants his country back. I doubt he thinks about Jewish history much and in any case I've heard plenty of people say "final solution" innocently and innocuously, with no intention to refer to the holocaust.

    If I lived in Australia, I'd consider Anning's less than exquisite sensitivity to linguistic nuance far less relevant for my safety and well-being, than his solid grasp of the meaning of Muslim immigration in the here and now.

    , @AnotherDad
    We're in a world where the establishment peddles absolute kindergarten level syrupy emotional nonsense, and the "Nazis" speak reasonable, logical, clear headed common sense.
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  7. Mr. Blank says:

    Our esteemed leaders in the West might be much more effective if all their public statements didn’t sound like Brezhnev-era Pravda editorials.

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    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Brezhnev’s most redeeming feature was his ineffectiveness. Careful what you wish for.
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  8. How can Australia be a democracy when rifts are turned into election issues? The essence of democracy is that elections shouldn’t decide anything.

    There is the official reality of “Gangs, what gangs, there are no gangs except gangs of whites who persecute Africans.”

    Then there is the more useful Alt-Reality that says Gangs are dangerous like packs of hyenas.

    Darwinian selection, etc. Finally, Australia has some usefulness. With a smaller European-descendent population and access to abundant African and South Asian immigrants, Australia will reach critical mass sooner than we do, and we will be able to see what is in store for us, here in the US of A.

    To steal a phrase, India has cattle. We (and Australians) have negroes.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "There is the official reality of...Then there is the more useful Alt-Reality..."

    "More useful" or "more deceitful" to Who? Whom?
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  9. Corvinus says:

    What does law enforcement say?

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jan/03/is-melbourne-in-the-grip-of-african-gangs-the-facts-behind-the-lurid-headlines

    An Australian official had made the claim that people in Melbourne are “scared to go out to restaurants in the nighttime.” Yet…

    https://twitter.com/timpallas/status/951312749878849536/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E951312749878849536&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fentry%2Fafrican-gang-australia_us_5a581026e4b04df054f77f7e

    What about Victorian crime statistics? Well, robbery figures rose 12 percent in the last two years, but there is a reduction in property damage, burglary and theft.

    https://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au/crime-statistics/latest-crime-data/recorded-criminal-incidents

    This source reports that “[F]igures from Victoria’s Crime Statistics Agency show that Victorians born in Sudan were responsible for just 0.1 per cent of all crimes committed in 2017. ‘The statistics absolutely do not support that we have a gang problem in Victoria, the statistics do not support that we have increasing crime in Victoria and the statistics show overwhelmingly that the largest number of offenders in Victoria are Australian born,’ said Dr Rebecca Wickes, a senior lecturer in criminology at Monash University.”

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/what-s-behind-the-african-gangs-fallout

    And here is a psychologist who offers background and context.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/prevention-now/201802/are-african-youth-gangs-in-australia-real-threat

    Sailer’s first law of NOTICING THE UNNOTICED–The media, mainstream or alternative, furnishes us with convenient concepts that make it easier to remember the facts they prefer you to know and harder to remember the facts that undermine the concepts.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Your first link contains crime stats that contradict your second. I'm not sure what your point is.

    But I would add that the Good People of Melbourne, which of course includes the police, are united in their desire to ignore this problem, because to even notice it would be racist - racism being punishable in Melbourne by exile to a less-fashionable city, a fate worse than death
    , @neutral
    I want to know what possible benefit there is to importing Africans, do you know of ANY city with sizeable African populations that are not know for being crime prone and places that are generally horrible to reside in. Since you are a liberal, you believe that the exception makes the rule, but in this case you will not even find even a single desirable African city to prove your rule.
    , @bomag
    Uhm, your links relate the opposite of what you're trying to imply here.

    But we expect nothing less from you.
    , @jewbanker
    As a true blue white aussie from Victoria i can say that we DO have a africian gang problem in Melbourne. the government and police will NOT admit it. They claim our crime is falling but have promised 3000 extra police, why oh why would you do that if crime was really falling??? The sudanese population might be only 0.1% of the total population for now but they make up 0.2% of the TOTAL prison population of the state. your premise is BS mate, just like everything i've read from you, did you find this site with the act.il app??? https://diversitymachtfrei.wordpress.com/2018/08/08/a-jewish-swarm-consciousness-israeli-app-orchestrates-interference-in-politics-across-the-world/ Here is a quote from a book by Bob Carr, who was also the Premier of New South Wales in Australia for years, writes:
    "In my series of extended essays entitled “The War on White Australia” I described how Jeωish activism was pivotal in ending the White Australia policy and initiating the mass non-White immigration that is rapidly transforming that nation. In addition, I showed how Jeωish activism was instrumental in establishing multiculturalism as the ideological and legislative basis for social policy in Australia. Recently I explored the Jeωish role in pushing for the enactment and extension of laws banning speech deemed contrary to their interests. Given the profound impact of Jeωish ethno-politics on the Australian nation, nobody will be surprised to learn that Jeωish influence also extends to the determination of Australia’s foreign policy."

    Those 8 mayors are traitors and deserve a traitors punishment. The only way forward for the white people of the world is to remove the jew, then remove the non whites. Abbos are cannibals and need to be put on reservations and left to their own devices. WHITE AUSTRALIA NOW!!!
    , @Mr. Anon
    The Guardian is a protector of state orthodoxy. I don't care what it says.

    I don't care what you say either, you credulous fool.

    How about YOU go to Africa, and be enriched by its vibrant folkways.
    , @notanon
    every police precinct in the western world which covers a high immigration area has a sergeant whose job is to downgrade crime reports...

    (this would be true even if there were no racial or ethnic differences in crime rates purely due to the different age/gender distribution i.e. larger percentage of young males)

    this is because for 30+ years promotion in the police has required enthusiastic endorsement of PC.
    , @peterike

    What about Victorian crime statistics? Well, robbery figures rose 12 percent in the last two years, but there is a reduction in property damage, burglary and theft.

     

    Yeah, because government bureaucracies committed 100% to multi-culturalism would never do anything as gauche as fiddle with crime statistics. Just like they would never, say, fiddle with children's test scores to show better results.
    , @JerseyJeffersonian
    So, property crime down a bit, but robbery up 12% in two years, eh. Robbery is way more likely to result in assaults and murders, and other opportunistic crimes against persons like say rape as the perpetrator and the victim are face to face, and the perpetrator is going to be threatening to use violence to enforce compliance, common means of doing so being by flourishing a blunt instrument, and edged weapon, or perhaps a firearm. Given that understanding, such a sharp increase in robbery is a really worrying thing, no?

    But Corvinus instead gaslights the froggies, telling them that, hey, you must be mistaken about the temperature of the water in the pot in which you sit, namely your community. Anyway, what are the chances that a face to face encounter with a thug will happen to you, or that the situation will escalate so that you or someone you care about will be injured, raped, or killed? It's only a 12% increase in the chances over a two year period, so feel no fret, mon.

    But the thought might occur that perhaps property crime doesn't pay nearly so well as robbery, and that the two diverging trends are at root connected? Nah, barely credible, amiright?

    'Cuz the media would never gaslight us by downplaying the significance of a rising threat perception by the people who actually live in the community and deal with the on the ground reality of hostile, unassimilating aliens in their midst that, oh I don't know, might inform their sense of threat? No, those people at the Guardian are not to a man jack of them ideologically-blinkered leftists whose jobs - merely incidentally - depend on them never wavering from The Party Line. Of this, I am quite certain.
    , @Anonymous

    What does law enforcement say?
     
    Yeah, what do PC-addled institutions say?

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-02/street-gangs-are-a-problem-in-melbourne-police-admit/9297984


    Victorian police have conceded Melbourne has a problem with African street gangs, after earlier insisting there were no gangs in the city, as the State Government rejects criticism it has dropped the ball on the problem.
     
    You quote:

    This source reports that “[F]igures from Victoria’s Crime Statistics Agency show that Victorians born in Sudan were responsible for just 0.1 per cent of all crimes committed in 2017. ‘The statistics absolutely do not support that we have a gang problem in Victoria, the statistics do not support that we have increasing crime in Victoria and the statistics show overwhelmingly that the largest number of offenders in Victoria are Australian born,’ said Dr Rebecca Wickes, a senior lecturer in criminology at Monash University.”
     
    Could it be possible that the nice senior lecturer lady doesn't want us to understand "per capita"?

    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/apex-fears-spark-concerns-about-racial-profiling-20161122-gsvete.html (from http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-age-sudanese-in-melbourne-victims-of-racial-profiling-also-committing-two-orders-of-magnitude-more-major-crimes/)


    But Sudanese youths were vastly over-represented in the 2015 data, responsible for 7.44 per cent of home invasions, 5.65 per cent of car thefts and 13.9 per cent of aggravated robberies, despite Sudanese-born citizens making up about 0.11 per cent of Victoria’s population.
     
    See? "Overwhelmingly" not Sudanese!

    Academics transparently bullshitting -- all in the service of social justice.

    , @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    "The importantest fact for any GoodWhite to remember is that Irishmen and Italians were rowdy troublemakers a hundred years ago; thus, white countries must abolish their borders." ~ Le Autiste Corvi
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  10. Somewhat OT:

    The presence of anonymous commenters with serial numbers here at unz.com, reminds me of these guys.

    https://stp.lingfil.uu.se/~starback/dcml/chars/beagleboys.html

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    How so?
    , @MEH 0910
    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41-374xMHxL._SX300_.jpg
    , @Anonymous

    The presence of anonymous commenters with serial numbers here at unz.com, reminds me of these guys.
     
    On that Jonathan Revusky “Betty Ong” conspiracy article, I once expressed my concern to Ron Unz for the tracking of my assigned anonymous number (266) based on my IP address. And that it was very convenient that Deep State can then track all of my posts easily. Ron told me I was paranoid and reassured me that Deep State wasn’t interested some irrelevant little fish like me. Like I’m like a cyber version of Brad Pitt’s character in Burn After Reading. Thanks Ron, where do I go to get my self-esteem and my James Bond self-image back?
    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    So, I take it that you are known as "Piltdown Man" at your sinecure six-figure job with the Board of Education.
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  11. gp says:

    “We stand together to say that we value the contribution of these residents, deeply appreciate the diversity of culture and experience they bring to our cities,” This cult of diversity is like the cult of communism. A giant lie, forced compliance, ceaseless exhortations, ridiculous pseudo-formal jargon meaning nothing, a declining standard of living, and everybody afraid to fight it. This won’t stop until we’re mad enough to spit in the faces of these commissars every single time and place they uncork their dogma. Soon I hope.

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    Oh, we’re mad enough all right. We’re just not plentiful enough.
    And the 24/7/365 onslaught from the MSM aims to keep it that way.
    , @kissinger
    The thing is communism was a political ideology that could be removed.

    The diversity commissars are moving in millions of "vibrants" every year into the west. Even if you get rid of the commissars, you will still be dealing with the consequences of their madness. You can't just make millions of Africans disappear.

    I fear we will end up more like the downfall of the Roman Empire than the dissolution of the USSR.
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  12. Australian-African community leader Maker Mayek

    How come the expression there is “Australian-African”, but here it’s the other way around — “African-American”? Is this one of those hemisphere/coriolis force things again?

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    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Surprisingly, yes.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    LOL too, and for more:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0sZOQjHqGg

    Man, The Simpsons was hilarious back then. I have no idea about the last 15 years.
    , @Hail
    Anagram mini-biography for:

    "Mayek: Australian-African"
    = Ya, a fanatical manure risk
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    This previously unknown guy has gone a long way in ensuring his reelection.

    I checked out this story and noted that one mayor (actually mine ) when questioned on radio accepted that her municipality had ,according to the last census, zero people born in Sth Sudan .
    Lefties like having social justice causes and when they haven’t got their own take on whatever the cause de jour is
    Conservatives of course prefer the private and the quiet life

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  14. I imagine that many Aussies are beginning to regret having given up their guns.

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    >beginning
    Years ago it was an understood thing that Australians were the biggest "piss-takers" on 4chan. They have a reputation as pranksters, site founder Christopher Poole identified them as the one thing he hated most, and their entire IP range has been banned. In the recent political upheaval I have felt intense closeness to this strange tribe of desert-bound alcoholics, who do not give their loyalty easily, but post in vast numbers. In a Second Amendment thread it is as likely to be an Australian as an American who corrects fallacies and explains the reasoning of things like god-given rights and not having arms in a centralized armory. You would think Hillsdale College or the Rutherfird Society had branches down under.
    , @AnotherDad

    I imagine that many Aussies are beginning to regret having given up their guns.
     
    Weird to me how that could happen.

    Australia's basically a big desert with a little ring of nice temperate zone territory. To a typical American like me it's supposed to still be a little more "wild", more "frontier" even now. And Australians are supposed to be a bit wilder--descendants of convicts and settlers of sheep stations out in the bush. Even more Irish--i.e. wild and f'you--than the USofA.

    How the heck did they turn into a bunch of pansies, with their tails tucked between their legs turning their guns into the man?
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    OT remember that New Mexico compound where a jihadist, whose dad was tied to the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and is a senior advisor to an Ikhwan group, was training children to become school shooters, and a kidnapped child was likely killed in an exorcism and was buried on the property, and the judge let everybody out on bail because she couldn’t see how being a terrorist with a dead kid’s body was a “specific threat” …
    Yeah, the government bulldozed the compound.
    This is real and is being reported on a mainstream site with photographs.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/new-mexico-compound-mysteriously-destroyed-by-authorities-1299928131725?v=railb

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    That is so crazy on the face of it I can only assume the bloke came across like the kind of bozo who, upon being released, would immediately lead the US security services to further accomplices.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Shades of Waco. "No evidence to find here. Move along!"

    And they wonder why people believe in conspiracies.

    2) I thought Australia would be the last place that would fall for importing tons of foreigners. Guess I watched too much Crocodile Dundee.

    , @RudyM
    It certainly smells funny. Smells like the FBI, specifically. The group's connection to someone linked to the 1993 WTC bombing already sets off alarms. Maybe this group wasn't supposed to be stopped so soon.

    On the other hand, I don't suspect any deep state (to be lazy about it) hand in the release of the suspects. That's just New Mexico.

    , @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    "Yeah, the government bulldozed the compound."

    Shades of Sandy Hook. Anyone else think it passing strange when they demolished Sandy Hook Elementary three weeks after "Adam Lanza" "shot" "952 children" or whatever the official death toll was?
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  16. @Dave Pinsen
    Meanwhile, an Aussie MP uses “final solution” to describe popular vote on Muslim and African immigration. A conspiracy theorist might wonder if he used that phrase to discredit complaints about immigration.


    https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1029930808960864256?s=21

    A conspiracy theorist might wonder if he used that phrase to discredit complaints about immigration.

    Your concerned ‘conspiracy theorist’ may be behind the times. The specter of Hitler and the fate of the Six Million is fast losing its remonstrative power as a tool to frighten, shame, and pacify. Regarding Fraser Anning’s refusal (so far) to backpedal from “final solution”: A lot of contemporary spectators are wishfully misinterpreting teeth-baring warnings—from both the right and left—as mere LARPing. The Overton is redshifting in both directions.

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    The specter of Hitler and the fate of the Six Million is fast losing its remonstrative power as a tool to frighten, shame, and pacify.
     
    Well, here’s Claire Lehmann, founder and editrix of the taboo-defying home of the Intellectual Dark Web, Quillette, retweeting a critical tweet about Anning.

    https://twitter.com/davidleyonhjelm/status/1029505833590173696?s=21
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  17. Cue descendants of Italian and Irish mobsters not to mention WASP smugglers hitting the fainting couch at the idea of crime. Bah gawd, I never.._

    Anyhoo ofcourse it’s fear mongering, if it wasn’t they’d be described as appropriate: Somali, Nigerian gangs e.t.c

    I haave a hunch there aren’t many Sudanese gangsters. Any Aussies care to comment?

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    The Apex gang is primarily Sudanese. There is not a significant Nigerian population in Melbourne.

    But by "gang" they also mean groups or flash mobs or rioters of 50 or more. They have arrested up to 50 youths at a time, but in most cases they don't or can't arrest everyone and ask for a birth certificate. The phrase "of African appearance" is used in the media.

    The authorities say it's racist to spotlight 50 or more black youths congregating when no fear would be felt about 50 or more white youths. The problem with that is that 0.14 percent (1 in 600) of Melbourners are African, while 6 percent (1 in 12) of the riot arrests are African (a rate 40 times white offenders), and roving mobs of 50 white kids is not a thing in Melbourne to begin with, and would probably not be seen as completely innocent if it were.

    One riot happened after a shoplifting arrest, so you can read between the lines and figure out that roving shoplifting mobs are a problem here as elsewhere. Criminal techniques spread quickly on the internet. Up next: Probably decriminalizing shoplifting because of its disparate impact. I think you'll also start to see race disappearing from records kept by the police. The media will have to resort to looking at arrestee names and mug shots.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Knowing what you must know, as a reader of this blog, about the extraordinarily high per capita rates of crime committed by people of African descent everywhere from Australia to Brazil to Europe to the U.S., what’s your best argument for why countries ought to welcome large numbers of African immigrants?

    https://twitter.com/harmlessyarddog/status/1012392761046306818?s=21
    , @Altai
    And, of course, there were no complaints about foreigners bringing social dysfunction in the past (Or indeed in the present) because they were white. Nor were the immigration policies in the US or Australia democratically changed in the past to curtail immigration of such cohorts as would be expected to bring such dysfunction or to which the host population did not feel enough fellow-feeling to put up with any more of them.

    The population this is applied to are Somali Bantu who are severely socially regressed and were simply placed into an industrialised country and predictably collapsed into an underclass. The people living next to them have to deal with large gangs of them acting out in severely anti-social and increasingly violent ways. If they hadn't been illiterate when they arrived or had some qualifications that allowed them compete better, I'm sure the social dysfunction would be less. But ultimately that's irrelevant from Australia's perspective.

    To put this in perspective. There are hardly any of these people and a massive chunk of the youth are directly involved in this. Attacks on the beaches are another new occurrence. It was all just so unnecessary. Some people have been severely beaten and stabbed.

    , @DFH
    wtf, now I love I and my family being robbed, assaulted and murdered by blacks
    , @anon
    Ethnic gangsters are a protected species in Australia, like everywhere else that's got Democracy.
    The reason?
    Ethnics tend to bloc vote, so politicians keep pandering to them.
    Also, there's one particular ethnicity, although small in number, that organises the rest, and keeps the Grievance Industry afloat.
    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    "Cue descendants of Italian and Irish mobsters not to mention WASP smugglers hitting the fainting couch at the idea of crime. Bah gawd, I never.._"

    You sound like Stephen Miller's uncle.
    , @Rob McX
    All those online princes with bank accounts are Swedes using Nigerian proxy servers.
    , @BB753
    Nigerians as gangsters is a stereotype all over Africa. You know, there's a lot of truth behind most stereotypes. I hear Nigerians aren't very popular among local Blacks in South Africa. It must be those dodgy Igbos, not those genius Wakandan Igbos we're lectured about here.
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    OT Is the GEACPS resurfacing? An innocent African boy who came to Japan to learn was cruelly sent home after he accidentally mistook a basketball game for a boxing match, as happens to us all. At least they were woke enough to fire the guy who got punched in the face (not an expert in Japanese law but I think he has significantly less chance of suing their pants off than would be the case here).

    An African high school exchange student punched a Japanese basketball referee in the face during a game. The Japanese did not charge him, but let him go home, and then fired the Japanese coach. Link:

    https://nextshark.com/exchange-student-sucker-punched-referee-japan-leaves-school-returns-home-country/

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    What I found most impressive was the reaction of the school. They withdrew from future competition for several months, ending their hopes to make the playoffs. Could you imagine say Alabama forfeiting one game after one of their players has been arrested for armed robbery?
    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    It appears they fired the kid's coach, not the referee who got punched.
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  19. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Prof. Woland
    I imagine that many Aussies are beginning to regret having given up their guns.

    >beginning
    Years ago it was an understood thing that Australians were the biggest “piss-takers” on 4chan. They have a reputation as pranksters, site founder Christopher Poole identified them as the one thing he hated most, and their entire IP range has been banned. In the recent political upheaval I have felt intense closeness to this strange tribe of desert-bound alcoholics, who do not give their loyalty easily, but post in vast numbers. In a Second Amendment thread it is as likely to be an Australian as an American who corrects fallacies and explains the reasoning of things like god-given rights and not having arms in a centralized armory. You would think Hillsdale College or the Rutherfird Society had branches down under.

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    >beginning
    Years ago it was an understood thing that Australians were the biggest “piss-takers” on 4chan. They have a reputation as pranksters, site founder Christopher Poole identified them as the one thing he hated most, and their entire IP range has been banned. In the recent political upheaval I have felt intense closeness to this strange tribe of desert-bound alcoholics, who do not give their loyalty easily, but post in vast numbers. In a Second Amendment thread it is as likely to be an Australian as an American who corrects fallacies and explains the reasoning of things like god-given rights and not having arms in a centralized armory. You would think Hillsdale College or the Rutherfird Society had branches down under.
     
    There are more of us here than they think, even on Unz. Hayagoin?

    It's not to be unanticipated, given that the numpties running the place have
    1. De-armed us more thoroughly than Jews in the ghetto
    2. Subjected us to the highest rate of race replacement in the world for a generation.
    3. Constantly told us how we were the world's biggest multicultural success story. Benedict Arnold and Quisling were pikers compared to the last half century of prime ministers.

    The one good thing about gun control is that once we install Fraser Anning as PM (which will be hard as he's in the Senate, not the lower house), the army can go house to house relocating people without having to have the full WHS approved safety gear, in case someone cuts a finger. Because you know what, it's ok that working white Aussies of child bearing age can only afford one child, due to Chad boomers getting millions of Super taxed at 0-15%, importing home buyers to make themselves feel rich on paper. Those unborn whites are not the same as deaths, goy. WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT NOT EVEN THE MOST STUPID WHITE AUSTRALIAN DIES FOR BEING STUPID. And that no potential boomer-like retirees get cancer from asbestos after they have had their children. While there are some boomers still in the workforce, the younger generation could conceivably be like boomers some day, so we must protect them at all costs.

    In a nutshell, Australian government policy boils down to:
    -trying to prevent old, stupid and generally careless people from dying
    -making the boomer cohort feel good about themselves for how smart and hard working they were for buying their houses for twice annual income
    -preventing white Aussies from breeding, except for the most stupid, who should be paid to do nothing but breed more stupid people
    -try to make Einsteins out of stupid feral idiots and the imported turd worlders, and institute royal commissions into why there are no good tertiary turd polishing machines out there
    -blame police chiefs for the results of the immigration policy
    -ensuring that most of our population comes from overpopulated, corrupt, third world s(*#holes.
    -Lie! e.g. We need more skilled migration, because Taxi driving is totally a skilled occupation, you have to punch buttons and stuff


    Yeah, we're an object lesson in how not to run a country, and we have massive Bill of Rights envy.
    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    Interesting comment. I've worked with/am friends with some Aussies, and they do have a harder edge than you'd expect from their cuddly Crocodile Dundee image.

    I agree that Australians are closest to Americans in terms of national character, or worldview.

    Unfortunately this also means that Australian leftie crazies pursue the latest woke causes with the same fanatical zeal as their US counterparts. You usually don't see quite the same blinkered intensity in British SJWs, for example; they often retain a smirky, somewhat self-aware sense of humor (humour, I guess) that's been burned right out of their colonial heirs. They're more likely to pretend multicultural disasters simply aren't happening (e.g. the sex slave rings) than to get up on their pulpits and preach the righteousness of their disastrous ideologies and policies.

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    "Not Noticing" is sadly a one-sided approach to a two-sided game.
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  21. DH13 says:

    The essence of democracy is that elections shouldn’t decide anything.

    This was said in classic Saileresque sarcasm mode, but it is not a joke anymore under the so called “liberal democracies”. It is true, and has been so since at least 1945, if not earlier.

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    We just have liberal democracies that happen to make the same decisions, at the same moment and despite the public opinion of the particular country in question. No conspiracy or coordination, just sensible people coming to the same conclusions, often using identical words:


    In 2003, Stephen Harper and Australian Prime Minister John Howard deliver largely identical speeches urging their nations to join George W. Bush's Coalition of the Willing to go to war with Iraq.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtZUNxmIIzA
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  22. Anon[135] • Disclaimer says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist
    Cue descendants of Italian and Irish mobsters not to mention WASP smugglers hitting the fainting couch at the idea of crime. Bah gawd, I never.._

    Anyhoo ofcourse it's fear mongering, if it wasn't they'd be described as appropriate: Somali, Nigerian gangs e.t.c

    I haave a hunch there aren't many Sudanese gangsters. Any Aussies care to comment?

    The Apex gang is primarily Sudanese. There is not a significant Nigerian population in Melbourne.

    But by “gang” they also mean groups or flash mobs or rioters of 50 or more. They have arrested up to 50 youths at a time, but in most cases they don’t or can’t arrest everyone and ask for a birth certificate. The phrase “of African appearance” is used in the media.

    The authorities say it’s racist to spotlight 50 or more black youths congregating when no fear would be felt about 50 or more white youths. The problem with that is that 0.14 percent (1 in 600) of Melbourners are African, while 6 percent (1 in 12) of the riot arrests are African (a rate 40 times white offenders), and roving mobs of 50 white kids is not a thing in Melbourne to begin with, and would probably not be seen as completely innocent if it were.

    One riot happened after a shoplifting arrest, so you can read between the lines and figure out that roving shoplifting mobs are a problem here as elsewhere. Criminal techniques spread quickly on the internet. Up next: Probably decriminalizing shoplifting because of its disparate impact. I think you’ll also start to see race disappearing from records kept by the police. The media will have to resort to looking at arrestee names and mug shots.

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  23. eah says:

    Meanwhile in London:

    Battersea stabbing: Woman knifed to death and man, 40, arrested on suspicion of murder after boy, 6, ‘made 999 call’

    Police reassured residents, telling them: “It’s not gang-related.”

    What a relief — but ‘what did they mean by that? — does anyone know?’ — “LOL”

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  24. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Democracy applied to immigration policy is literally Nazism, though.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/14/australian-senator-calls-for-final-solution-to-immigration-problem


    ... He said neither the former Labor prime minister Gough Whitlam, nor any subsequent government, had asked Australians what kind of immigration they wanted. “What we do need a plebiscite for is to decide who comes here.”

    Anning declared on Tuesday the reasons “for ending all further Muslim immigration are both compelling and self-evident”.

    “The record of Muslims who have already come to this country in terms of rates of crime, welfare dependency and terrorism are the worst of any migrant and vastly exceed another immigrant group,” he said.

    “The majority of Muslims in Australia of working age do not work and exist on welfare. Muslims in New South Wales and Victoria are three times more likely than other groups to be convicted of crimes.”

    “We have black African Muslim gangs terrorising Melbourne, we have Isis-sympathising Muslims trying to go overseas to try and fight for Isis and while all Muslims are not terrorists, certainly all terrorists these days are Muslims.

    “So why would anyone want to bring more of them here?”

    ... “In the days of Menzies, immigrants arriving here were not allowed to apply for welfare and that attracted exactly the right sort of hardworking people this country needed”.

    “We should go back to that and ban all immigrants from receiving welfare for the first five years after they arrive,” he said.

    The senator then invoked the term “final solution” in calling for his preferred plebiscite on the “immigration problem”.

    “The final solution to the immigration problem, of course, is a popular vote.”
     

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-45191315

    An Australian senator has been widely condemned for a speech that invoked the term "final solution" in a call for immigration restrictions based on race.

    … Political opponents denounced his speech as "disgraceful". Mr Anning said he did not need to apologise.

    "Final solution" was a term infamously used by the Nazis during the Holocaust.

    In his speech, Mr Anning said "the final solution to the immigration problem is a popular vote".

    ... The senator, a former member of Pauline Hanson's anti-Islam One Nation Party, called for a return to the White Australia Policy - which restricted non-European immigrants from 1901 until the 1960s.

    Labor's Senate leader Penny Wong, who was born in Malaysia, said the White Australia Policy had been "rightly consigned to the dustbin of history".

    ... Meanwhile, Australia's first Muslim female senator, Mehreen Faruqi, who filled a vacant seat on Wednesday, said Mr Anning had "spat in the face of millions of Australians, spewing hate and racism".
    "I'm a Muslim migrant, I'm about to be a Senator and there's not a damn thing Fraser Anning can do about it," she wrote in a piece for website Junkee.
     

    Yep, that attitude sounds about right.

    ... [Prime Minister] Turnbull told parliament: "We need to stand up for what we are... the most successful multicultural society in the world, united by democratic values that do not distinguish between race, religion, colour or cultural background."

    ... Mr Katter said he supported Mr Anning's speech "1000%" but suggested that his colleague did not know much about the Holocaust.

    "He's smart, but he hasn't read all the history books," Mr Katter told reporters.
     

    Mr Anning said “the final solution to the immigration problem is a popular vote.”

    Friend, friends. Let us compromise! No more hate! Let’s put the “immigration problem” to a popular vote, but with only immigrants voting! As our own major media in America have informed us, immigrants are the only legitimate residents anyway.

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  25. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @gp
    “We stand together to say that we value the contribution of these residents, deeply appreciate the diversity of culture and experience they bring to our cities,” This cult of diversity is like the cult of communism. A giant lie, forced compliance, ceaseless exhortations, ridiculous pseudo-formal jargon meaning nothing, a declining standard of living, and everybody afraid to fight it. This won't stop until we're mad enough to spit in the faces of these commissars every single time and place they uncork their dogma. Soon I hope.

    Oh, we’re mad enough all right. We’re just not plentiful enough.
    And the 24/7/365 onslaught from the MSM aims to keep it that way.

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  26. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    A conspiracy theorist might wonder if he used that phrase to discredit complaints about immigration.
     
    Your concerned ‘conspiracy theorist’ may be behind the times. The specter of Hitler and the fate of the Six Million is fast losing its remonstrative power as a tool to frighten, shame, and pacify. Regarding Fraser Anning’s refusal (so far) to backpedal from “final solution”: A lot of contemporary spectators are wishfully misinterpreting teeth-baring warnings—from both the right and left—as mere LARPing. The Overton is redshifting in both directions.

    The specter of Hitler and the fate of the Six Million is fast losing its remonstrative power as a tool to frighten, shame, and pacify.

    Well, here’s Claire Lehmann, founder and editrix of the taboo-defying home of the Intellectual Dark Web, Quillette, retweeting a critical tweet about Anning.

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  27. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Nigerian Nationalist
    Cue descendants of Italian and Irish mobsters not to mention WASP smugglers hitting the fainting couch at the idea of crime. Bah gawd, I never.._

    Anyhoo ofcourse it's fear mongering, if it wasn't they'd be described as appropriate: Somali, Nigerian gangs e.t.c

    I haave a hunch there aren't many Sudanese gangsters. Any Aussies care to comment?

    Knowing what you must know, as a reader of this blog, about the extraordinarily high per capita rates of crime committed by people of African descent everywhere from Australia to Brazil to Europe to the U.S., what’s your best argument for why countries ought to welcome large numbers of African immigrants?

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    "Knowing what you must know, as a reader of this blog, about the extraordinarily high per capita rates of crime committed by people of African descent everywhere from Australia to Brazil to Europe to the U.S., what’s your best argument for why countries ought to welcome large numbers of African immigrants?"

    I would say first you need to show some work regarding your claim.

    In a related matter, what has our history said about immigration, crime, and incarceration in early twentieth-century America in regards to Eastern and Southern European immigrants?

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2831353/

    , @Corvinus
    And here is a more recent study in conjunction to the related matter.

    "Immigration-crime research over the past 20 years has widely corroborated the conclusions of a number of early 20th-century presidential commissions that found no backing for the immigration-crime connection. Although there are always individual exceptions, the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans."

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/immigrants-do-not-increase-crime-research-shows/

    , @peterike

    Knowing what you must know, as a reader of this blog, about the extraordinarily high per capita rates of crime committed by people of African descent everywhere from Australia to Brazil to Europe to the U.S.,

     

    Dave, how can you be so insensitive! Why, just glance through these most wanted pics from New York City. I mean, there's at least one white woman in the mix!

    https://crimestoppers.nypdonline.org/(X(1)S(ukpacv3isnir2w4wmi4hmoma))/?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1#/wanted

    Sorry, don't know how to make that link work. Cut and paste!

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  28. ‘…“We stand together to say that we value the contribution of these residents, deeply appreciate the diversity of culture and experience they bring to our cities,” City of Moreland Mayor John Kavanagh said…’

    It’s a win-win, then.

    Other countries don’t want their black immigrants, Australia values them.

    What’s not to like?

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  29. Altai says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist
    Cue descendants of Italian and Irish mobsters not to mention WASP smugglers hitting the fainting couch at the idea of crime. Bah gawd, I never.._

    Anyhoo ofcourse it's fear mongering, if it wasn't they'd be described as appropriate: Somali, Nigerian gangs e.t.c

    I haave a hunch there aren't many Sudanese gangsters. Any Aussies care to comment?

    And, of course, there were no complaints about foreigners bringing social dysfunction in the past (Or indeed in the present) because they were white. Nor were the immigration policies in the US or Australia democratically changed in the past to curtail immigration of such cohorts as would be expected to bring such dysfunction or to which the host population did not feel enough fellow-feeling to put up with any more of them.

    The population this is applied to are Somali Bantu who are severely socially regressed and were simply placed into an industrialised country and predictably collapsed into an underclass. The people living next to them have to deal with large gangs of them acting out in severely anti-social and increasingly violent ways. If they hadn’t been illiterate when they arrived or had some qualifications that allowed them compete better, I’m sure the social dysfunction would be less. But ultimately that’s irrelevant from Australia’s perspective.

    To put this in perspective. There are hardly any of these people and a massive chunk of the youth are directly involved in this. Attacks on the beaches are another new occurrence. It was all just so unnecessary. Some people have been severely beaten and stabbed.

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  30. Anon[383] • Disclaimer says:

    “Australian-African community leader Maker Mayek”

    Oh, I’m so glad we’ve got one of those. A real-live community leader – and hyphenated identities to boot! Australia has truly arrived

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  31. Wilkey says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    Man, it's getting to be where you'd better go see the world really soon or there will be no point. It's not just the castles in Germany, cafes in France, ruins and cathedrals in Italy, strange flora and fauna Downunder, etc. It's the people and cultures that lots of us have gone and partaken of that made trips overseas special.

    Why leave the suburbs of Detroit or Chicago to go to any of these places if it's gonna feel like you are downtown, where you don't go much .... for a damn good reason?

    Do they have "refugees" in the Galapagos Islands, does anyone know? Maybe that's where we'll go. It's all turtles nowadays anyway. It's turtles all the way down.

    “Man, it’s getting to be where you’d better go see the world really soon or there will be no point. It’s not just the castles in Germany, cafes in France, ruins and cathedrals in Italy, strange flora and fauna Downunder, etc. It’s the people and cultures that lots of us have gone and partaken of that made trips overseas special.”

    The sad truth of it is that you’re right. What it really reminds me of is that scene in Dances With Wolves where Kevin Costner’s character is asked why he wants to be posted to the frontier. “I want to see it before it’s gone,” he says. The drunkard carting him there looks at Costner like he’s an idiot. How can something as vast as “the frontier” ever disappear? Costner and his movie audience know better. The movie audience knows it thanks to hindsight, but Costner’s character can see it coming. It’s happening to Europe (and America) and we all know it. Some day far too soon nearly everything that makes Europe truly unique will be gone. It took about 300 years from the discovery of Columbus til whites outnumbered natives in the New World. Third Worlders will outpopulate whites in their native countries in less than a third of that time. People in the future will marvel at how rapidly it all happened, and how idiotic the natives were at giving their country away in the name of a stupid, inane, untested political dogma.

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    'People in the future' will have descended from them, not from us, and they'll be celebrating our demise forever. The SJWs and their (ilk) are the ones who are making it all happen. True, civilisation will hardly be recognisable and hardly worthy of the word, but that's how they want it.
    , @ThreeCranes
    “I want to see it before it’s gone,”

    Exactly what Frederic Remington said was his reason for painting the Old West.

    http://www.canvasreplicas.com/images/Dash%20for%20Timber%20Frederic%20Remington.jpg

    By the way, if you're ever up near Ogdensburg, New York, (along the St. Lawrence) there's a fine Remington museum there worth visiting.

    (I was always struck by the impressionist use of color by Remington, something he is not given credit for by his detractors who call him a Realist)

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  32. Anon[383] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Meanwhile, an Aussie MP uses “final solution” to describe popular vote on Muslim and African immigration. A conspiracy theorist might wonder if he used that phrase to discredit complaints about immigration.


    https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1029930808960864256?s=21

    I think he’s trying the Trumpian trick of trolling his enemies so that they end up defending something they shouldn’t (e.g. calling MS-13 “animals”). I think this guy might’ve overshot the mark with the Nazi reference, though. Based on the content alone, they were going to call him a Nazi no matter what, and now he’s made that tag easier to stick.

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  33. DFH says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist
    Cue descendants of Italian and Irish mobsters not to mention WASP smugglers hitting the fainting couch at the idea of crime. Bah gawd, I never.._

    Anyhoo ofcourse it's fear mongering, if it wasn't they'd be described as appropriate: Somali, Nigerian gangs e.t.c

    I haave a hunch there aren't many Sudanese gangsters. Any Aussies care to comment?

    wtf, now I love I and my family being robbed, assaulted and murdered by blacks

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  34. Anon[383] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    What does law enforcement say?

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jan/03/is-melbourne-in-the-grip-of-african-gangs-the-facts-behind-the-lurid-headlines

    An Australian official had made the claim that people in Melbourne are “scared to go out to restaurants in the nighttime.” Yet...

    https://twitter.com/timpallas/status/951312749878849536/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E951312749878849536&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fentry%2Fafrican-gang-australia_us_5a581026e4b04df054f77f7e

    What about Victorian crime statistics? Well, robbery figures rose 12 percent in the last two years, but there is a reduction in property damage, burglary and theft.

    https://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au/crime-statistics/latest-crime-data/recorded-criminal-incidents

    This source reports that "[F]igures from Victoria's Crime Statistics Agency show that Victorians born in Sudan were responsible for just 0.1 per cent of all crimes committed in 2017. 'The statistics absolutely do not support that we have a gang problem in Victoria, the statistics do not support that we have increasing crime in Victoria and the statistics show overwhelmingly that the largest number of offenders in Victoria are Australian born,' said Dr Rebecca Wickes, a senior lecturer in criminology at Monash University."

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/what-s-behind-the-african-gangs-fallout

    And here is a psychologist who offers background and context.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/prevention-now/201802/are-african-youth-gangs-in-australia-real-threat

    Sailer’s first law of NOTICING THE UNNOTICED–The media, mainstream or alternative, furnishes us with convenient concepts that make it easier to remember the facts they prefer you to know and harder to remember the facts that undermine the concepts.

    Your first link contains crime stats that contradict your second. I’m not sure what your point is.

    But I would add that the Good People of Melbourne, which of course includes the police, are united in their desire to ignore this problem, because to even notice it would be racist – racism being punishable in Melbourne by exile to a less-fashionable city, a fate worse than death

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  35. Pericles says:

    “Melbourne mayors conspicuously do not call for end of ‘African gangs’.”

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  36. Brabantian says: • Website

    In murder of Jewish radio host & Chicago mobster lawyer, US government may have falsely targeted white nationalists as the killers:

    David Lane (1938-2007) the author of the most famous white nationalist slogan, the ’14 words’ – “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children” – died in prison after over 20 years there, as one of the group convicted for ‘conspiracy’ related to the murder of Chicagoan Alan Berg, a sort of Alex Jones of pre-internet USA radio … but David Lane and his group may have been innocent, targeted specifically because they were white nationalist militia, conveniently in controversy with Berg.

    From Who Killed Alan Berg?:

    Alan Berg (1934-84), was an early leader in exposing the corruption of the USA judicial system, corruption in which Berg admitted complicity during his early career as a lawyer helping mobsters to bend the judges in Chicago, Illinois.

    Ambiguities abound regarding Berg’s killing given that the Chicago mob, the white nationalists, and the US government itself, all had motives for killing the outspoken Alan Berg, with Berg’s potential to become the Alex Jones of his time. As a repentant former participant in corruption, a Jew who had ‘come clean’, Alan Berg was a threat to many.

    As a young lawyer, Berg learned that US courts were all about bribery, and quickly got a high income until he became the ‘go-to’ guy for mobsters. But the guilt of all the corruption tore Alan Berg to pieces … drove him to alcoholism and emotional and marital destruction … To escape from it all, Berg dumped his legal career, moved to Colorado, confronted his drinking, and became a super-popular but abrasive radio personality.

    Exposing the general activities of top Chicago mobsters in corrupting the courts on popular radio, Alan Berg was killed in a classic mafia-style hit. The local prosecutor in Denver thought the evidence that the white nationalists had shot Berg to death, was so insufficient and flimsy he never brought charges against them. But Berg’s killing was quickly blamed by the feds on white nationalists whom Berg had also been attacking on the air.

    If Alan Berg had lived, Berg would likely have gladly conducted a radio show examining all the dodgy elements of the white nationalist convictions. Berg might well have expressed his agreement from experience, about what David Lane wrote about US court procedure:

    “The trial itself is more carefully orchestrated than a Shakespeare play. All evidence and testimony are decided in advance and the judge will tolerate no surprises. If there is any indication that effective defense evidence is forthcoming, the judge will immediately send the jury to another room while the details of the screwing you are getting are smoothed out. In addition, the judge is a highly skilled actor appearing firm but fair when the jury is in the courtroom, and becoming a tyrannical dictator the moment they are gone.”

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  37. kissinger says:
    @gp
    “We stand together to say that we value the contribution of these residents, deeply appreciate the diversity of culture and experience they bring to our cities,” This cult of diversity is like the cult of communism. A giant lie, forced compliance, ceaseless exhortations, ridiculous pseudo-formal jargon meaning nothing, a declining standard of living, and everybody afraid to fight it. This won't stop until we're mad enough to spit in the faces of these commissars every single time and place they uncork their dogma. Soon I hope.

    The thing is communism was a political ideology that could be removed.

    The diversity commissars are moving in millions of “vibrants” every year into the west. Even if you get rid of the commissars, you will still be dealing with the consequences of their madness. You can’t just make millions of Africans disappear.

    I fear we will end up more like the downfall of the Roman Empire than the dissolution of the USSR.

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    The thing is communism was a political ideology that could be removed.
    The diversity commissars are moving in millions of “vibrants” every year into the west.
     
    Exactly. This is communism 2.0.

    Communism 1.0 was dreary and got hijacked by the natives and then tossed off.

    Communism 2.0 fixes all that--they keep the machine running and get rich; and the natives are balkanized and replaced so control can't be hijacked and their rule tossed off.

    Got to give it to them--it's clever.
    , @Pericles

    Even if you get rid of the commissars, you will still be dealing with the consequences of their madness. You can’t just make millions of Africans disappear.

     

    Or maybe you can.

    Post-colonialism ethnically cleansed whites from various third world countries and everybody (IYKWIM) cheered. The same will 'just happen' to South Africa and there will be more cheering.

    After WW2, the allies forced ten million or so ethnic Germans permanently away from their former homes and countries. We hardly even remember that today and certainly don't criticize it.
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  38. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey
    "Man, it’s getting to be where you’d better go see the world really soon or there will be no point. It’s not just the castles in Germany, cafes in France, ruins and cathedrals in Italy, strange flora and fauna Downunder, etc. It’s the people and cultures that lots of us have gone and partaken of that made trips overseas special."

    The sad truth of it is that you're right. What it really reminds me of is that scene in Dances With Wolves where Kevin Costner's character is asked why he wants to be posted to the frontier. "I want to see it before it's gone," he says. The drunkard carting him there looks at Costner like he's an idiot. How can something as vast as "the frontier" ever disappear? Costner and his movie audience know better. The movie audience knows it thanks to hindsight, but Costner's character can see it coming. It's happening to Europe (and America) and we all know it. Some day far too soon nearly everything that makes Europe truly unique will be gone. It took about 300 years from the discovery of Columbus til whites outnumbered natives in the New World. Third Worlders will outpopulate whites in their native countries in less than a third of that time. People in the future will marvel at how rapidly it all happened, and how idiotic the natives were at giving their country away in the name of a stupid, inane, untested political dogma.

    ‘People in the future’ will have descended from them, not from us, and they’ll be celebrating our demise forever. The SJWs and their (ilk) are the ones who are making it all happen. True, civilisation will hardly be recognisable and hardly worthy of the word, but that’s how they want it.

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    "People in the future’ will have descended from them, not from us, and they’ll be celebrating our demise forever."

    We may be minorities in our own countries by that time, assuming we aren't genocided into extinction, but there should still be more than enough whites around to wonder what the hell their ancestors were thinking. Plenty of browns will be wondering what today's whites were thinking, too. I celebrate the conquest of the Americas by my ancestors but still wonder in awe that the natives were so stupid in tolerating us long enough for us to overpower them.
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  40. bomag says:
    @Anonymous
    Democracy applied to immigration policy is literally Nazism, though.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/14/australian-senator-calls-for-final-solution-to-immigration-problem


    ... He said neither the former Labor prime minister Gough Whitlam, nor any subsequent government, had asked Australians what kind of immigration they wanted. “What we do need a plebiscite for is to decide who comes here.”

    Anning declared on Tuesday the reasons “for ending all further Muslim immigration are both compelling and self-evident”.

    “The record of Muslims who have already come to this country in terms of rates of crime, welfare dependency and terrorism are the worst of any migrant and vastly exceed another immigrant group,” he said.

    “The majority of Muslims in Australia of working age do not work and exist on welfare. Muslims in New South Wales and Victoria are three times more likely than other groups to be convicted of crimes.”

    “We have black African Muslim gangs terrorising Melbourne, we have Isis-sympathising Muslims trying to go overseas to try and fight for Isis and while all Muslims are not terrorists, certainly all terrorists these days are Muslims.

    “So why would anyone want to bring more of them here?”

    ... “In the days of Menzies, immigrants arriving here were not allowed to apply for welfare and that attracted exactly the right sort of hardworking people this country needed”.

    “We should go back to that and ban all immigrants from receiving welfare for the first five years after they arrive,” he said.

    The senator then invoked the term “final solution” in calling for his preferred plebiscite on the “immigration problem”.

    “The final solution to the immigration problem, of course, is a popular vote.”
     

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-45191315

    An Australian senator has been widely condemned for a speech that invoked the term "final solution" in a call for immigration restrictions based on race.

    … Political opponents denounced his speech as "disgraceful". Mr Anning said he did not need to apologise.

    "Final solution" was a term infamously used by the Nazis during the Holocaust.

    In his speech, Mr Anning said "the final solution to the immigration problem is a popular vote".

    ... The senator, a former member of Pauline Hanson's anti-Islam One Nation Party, called for a return to the White Australia Policy - which restricted non-European immigrants from 1901 until the 1960s.

    Labor's Senate leader Penny Wong, who was born in Malaysia, said the White Australia Policy had been "rightly consigned to the dustbin of history".

    ... Meanwhile, Australia's first Muslim female senator, Mehreen Faruqi, who filled a vacant seat on Wednesday, said Mr Anning had "spat in the face of millions of Australians, spewing hate and racism".
    "I'm a Muslim migrant, I'm about to be a Senator and there's not a damn thing Fraser Anning can do about it," she wrote in a piece for website Junkee.
     

    Yep, that attitude sounds about right.

    ... [Prime Minister] Turnbull told parliament: "We need to stand up for what we are... the most successful multicultural society in the world, united by democratic values that do not distinguish between race, religion, colour or cultural background."

    ... Mr Katter said he supported Mr Anning's speech "1000%" but suggested that his colleague did not know much about the Holocaust.

    "He's smart, but he hasn't read all the history books," Mr Katter told reporters.
     

    Thanks for posting.

    I’m a Muslim migrant, I’m about to be a Senator and there’s not a damn thing Fraser Anning can do about it, Mehreen Faruqi wrote

    I’m noticing this from the Mehreen Faruqis of the world: they are not telling us that they are making things better; that they are advancing civilization; they just chortle that they’ve won.

    [Prime Minister] Turnbull told parliament: “We need to stand up for what we are… the most successful multicultural society in the world, united by democratic values that do not distinguish between race, religion, colour or cultural background.”

    Sounds like something PM Turnbull says from the steps of the bunker before he goes back in and locks the door behind himself.

    “Most successful multicultural society” is starting to have a hollow ring, like having the most successful car crash in history. Not much to brag about.

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  41. neutral says:
    @Corvinus
    What does law enforcement say?

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jan/03/is-melbourne-in-the-grip-of-african-gangs-the-facts-behind-the-lurid-headlines

    An Australian official had made the claim that people in Melbourne are “scared to go out to restaurants in the nighttime.” Yet...

    https://twitter.com/timpallas/status/951312749878849536/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E951312749878849536&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fentry%2Fafrican-gang-australia_us_5a581026e4b04df054f77f7e

    What about Victorian crime statistics? Well, robbery figures rose 12 percent in the last two years, but there is a reduction in property damage, burglary and theft.

    https://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au/crime-statistics/latest-crime-data/recorded-criminal-incidents

    This source reports that "[F]igures from Victoria's Crime Statistics Agency show that Victorians born in Sudan were responsible for just 0.1 per cent of all crimes committed in 2017. 'The statistics absolutely do not support that we have a gang problem in Victoria, the statistics do not support that we have increasing crime in Victoria and the statistics show overwhelmingly that the largest number of offenders in Victoria are Australian born,' said Dr Rebecca Wickes, a senior lecturer in criminology at Monash University."

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/what-s-behind-the-african-gangs-fallout

    And here is a psychologist who offers background and context.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/prevention-now/201802/are-african-youth-gangs-in-australia-real-threat

    Sailer’s first law of NOTICING THE UNNOTICED–The media, mainstream or alternative, furnishes us with convenient concepts that make it easier to remember the facts they prefer you to know and harder to remember the facts that undermine the concepts.

    I want to know what possible benefit there is to importing Africans, do you know of ANY city with sizeable African populations that are not know for being crime prone and places that are generally horrible to reside in. Since you are a liberal, you believe that the exception makes the rule, but in this case you will not even find even a single desirable African city to prove your rule.

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  42. anon[267] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Meanwhile, an Aussie MP uses “final solution” to describe popular vote on Muslim and African immigration. A conspiracy theorist might wonder if he used that phrase to discredit complaints about immigration.


    https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1029930808960864256?s=21

    Senator Anning is facing an Election by June 30 next year. He needs 14.3 % to get up.
    As long as he can hang tough and not apologise, he’s a chance.

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  43. BB753 says:

    It’s almost as if they were fine with African gangs roaming the streets of Melbourne. The more chaos, the more power for diversicrats.

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  44. anon[267] • Disclaimer says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist
    Cue descendants of Italian and Irish mobsters not to mention WASP smugglers hitting the fainting couch at the idea of crime. Bah gawd, I never.._

    Anyhoo ofcourse it's fear mongering, if it wasn't they'd be described as appropriate: Somali, Nigerian gangs e.t.c

    I haave a hunch there aren't many Sudanese gangsters. Any Aussies care to comment?

    Ethnic gangsters are a protected species in Australia, like everywhere else that’s got Democracy.
    The reason?
    Ethnics tend to bloc vote, so politicians keep pandering to them.
    Also, there’s one particular ethnicity, although small in number, that organises the rest, and keeps the Grievance Industry afloat.

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    Ethnic gangsters are a protected species in Australia, like everywhere else that’s got Democracy.
    The reason?
    Ethnics tend to bloc vote, so politicians keep pandering to them.
    Also, there’s one particular ethnicity, although small in number, that organises the rest, and keeps the Grievance Industry afloat.
     
    If Australian politics is like ours, I doubt they worry about elections. I think they know they have a nice safety net to fall into should they ever lose their positions, so long as they do as they are told.
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  45. bomag says:
    @Corvinus
    What does law enforcement say?

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jan/03/is-melbourne-in-the-grip-of-african-gangs-the-facts-behind-the-lurid-headlines

    An Australian official had made the claim that people in Melbourne are “scared to go out to restaurants in the nighttime.” Yet...

    https://twitter.com/timpallas/status/951312749878849536/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E951312749878849536&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fentry%2Fafrican-gang-australia_us_5a581026e4b04df054f77f7e

    What about Victorian crime statistics? Well, robbery figures rose 12 percent in the last two years, but there is a reduction in property damage, burglary and theft.

    https://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au/crime-statistics/latest-crime-data/recorded-criminal-incidents

    This source reports that "[F]igures from Victoria's Crime Statistics Agency show that Victorians born in Sudan were responsible for just 0.1 per cent of all crimes committed in 2017. 'The statistics absolutely do not support that we have a gang problem in Victoria, the statistics do not support that we have increasing crime in Victoria and the statistics show overwhelmingly that the largest number of offenders in Victoria are Australian born,' said Dr Rebecca Wickes, a senior lecturer in criminology at Monash University."

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/what-s-behind-the-african-gangs-fallout

    And here is a psychologist who offers background and context.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/prevention-now/201802/are-african-youth-gangs-in-australia-real-threat

    Sailer’s first law of NOTICING THE UNNOTICED–The media, mainstream or alternative, furnishes us with convenient concepts that make it easier to remember the facts they prefer you to know and harder to remember the facts that undermine the concepts.

    Uhm, your links relate the opposite of what you’re trying to imply here.

    But we expect nothing less from you.

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  46. kissinger says:

    A Dream Ended on a Mountain Road: The Cyclists and the ISIS Militants

    White Couple Bike Through ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’ and Gets Killed.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/07/world/asia/islamic-state-tajikistan-bike-attack.html

    This seems to be the fate of the West, death through naiveté and idealism.

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    So sad. At least they weren't held hostage, long tedious news segments, collecting money for ransom, etc etc.

    There was a similar incident with a woman hitchhiking through Turkey in a wedding dress. (Ponder the mental state of that one.) Raped, killed and thrown in a ditch.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/19/theater/19peac.html
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  47. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @PiltdownMan
    Somewhat OT:


    The presence of anonymous commenters with serial numbers here at unz.com, reminds me of these guys.

    http://www.favslist.com/photos/pages/x1/Beagle-Boys-1419622694-101599.jpg

    https://stp.lingfil.uu.se/~starback/dcml/chars/beagleboys.html

    How so?

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  48. @Nigerian Nationalist
    Cue descendants of Italian and Irish mobsters not to mention WASP smugglers hitting the fainting couch at the idea of crime. Bah gawd, I never.._

    Anyhoo ofcourse it's fear mongering, if it wasn't they'd be described as appropriate: Somali, Nigerian gangs e.t.c

    I haave a hunch there aren't many Sudanese gangsters. Any Aussies care to comment?

    “Cue descendants of Italian and Irish mobsters not to mention WASP smugglers hitting the fainting couch at the idea of crime. Bah gawd, I never.._”

    You sound like Stephen Miller’s uncle.

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  49. A few observations from ground zero:

    1. Mayors of municipalities in Australia have very little practical importance. Municipalities have no responsibilities for law enforcement, or education, or health care. Their key functions are zoning, garbage collection and road maintenance. In short, they barely register for the vast majority of citizens (property developers excepted), and local government elections are a snooze-fest.

    2. The vast majority of Melburnians know that the mayors’ comments are bullshit. We have had a serious problem with African crime for a number of years now and nothing the “goodwhite” local pols say will change that view. Despite this the mayors’ positions are not in jeopardy because hardly anyone gives a toss about local government (see point 1).

    3. Observable African crime is concentrated in a few (but highly visible) streams, which makes the overall crime stats look less scary than the reality. (It hardly needs pointing out to Steve’s readers that Africans aren’t a major concern for our fraud squads, for instance.) Their specialties include “home invasions” (charged as “aggravated burglary”) which usually involve a small group smashing its way into a suburban home and terrifying the occupants. A particular aim of these invasions is to force the residents to hand over car keys. Other favourites of our African brothers are violent robberies of jewellery stores and carjackings. Many (probably most) of these crimes are committed by under-18s who get slaps on the wrist by the Children’s Court and almost always are bailed pending trial. There aren’t a large number of these crimes, but they have a big psychological impact on the community.

    4. Statistics of African crime are seriously understated as the only relevant criterion for which stats are collected is birthplace (stats are not collected for perps’ race) and nowadays many (probably most) of the African crims were born in Australia. So the Australian-born Africans’ crimes get counted as “Australian” rather than “African” in the published stats. Despite this, some crimes show Africans over-represented by a factor of around 100.

    5. Another favoured crime of Africans in Melbourne is rowdy and destructive parties (not at their own homes but at AirBNB places rented using stolen credit cards). It pisses off (and scares) the neighbours (a few of whom get beaten up when they challenge the interlopers), results in serious damage to the properties, but seldom results in arrests (let alone convictions) for the offenders.

    6. On that last point: A feature of African crime in Melbourne is the softly-softly attitude to it by the Victoria Police (law enforcement is a State government responsibility). It is an amusing feature of law enforcement in Victoria that more than once the cars of the riot squad have been smashed up by rowdy Africans, and yet the riot squad have a policy of avoiding making arrests in these situations. Note that these are well-protected and armed police with specialist training in dealing with violent mobs, not some hapless local beat cops.

    7. In November we will have a State election and many Melburnians are itching to throw out the socialist Labor government that presides over this debacle. Yet the opinion polls still have the Labor Party as favourites to win the election, God help us.

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    In November we will have a State election and many Melburnians are itching to throw out the socialist Labor government that presides over this debacle. Yet the opinion polls still have the Labor Party as favourites to win the election, God help us.
     
    Seems like you guys are getting what you are voting for.
    , @sb
    Spot on about Sth Sudanese crime being seriously underreported in the crime stats

    They have been in Australia long enough to now have many locally born and many others were born outside Sth Sudan (Kenya,Uganda ? )

    Plus of course they simply don't get charged where others would almost certainly be charged
    , @sb
    Spot on about Sth Sudanese crime being seriously underreported in the crime stats

    They have been in Australia long enough to now have many locally born and many others were born outside Sth Sudan (Kenya,Uganda ? )

    Plus of course they simply don't get charged where others who behave the same would almost certainly be charged

    While I'm here I should say that the politician who used the phrase " final solution "in his maiden speech would almost certainly be a one termer (as a non entity with a trivial vote who was favoured by Australia's sometimes idiosyncratic voting system ) but now has a real chance of re election .
    Publicity is everything in politics

    , @sb
    Spot on about Sth Sudanese crime being seriously underreported in the crime stats

    They have been in Australia long enough to now have many locally born and many others were born outside Sth Sudan (Kenya,Uganda ? )

    Plus of course they simply don't get charged where others would almost certainly be charged

    While I'm here I should say that the politician who used the phrase " final solution "in his maiden speech would have almost certainly been a one termer (as a non entity with a trivial vote who was favoured by Australia's sometimes ifeosyncratic voting system ) but now has a real chance of re election .
    Publicity is everything in politics
    , @Moses

    Yet the opinion polls still have the Labor Party as favourites to win the election, God help us.
     
    Melbourne/Victoria residents will get the gubment they vote for, good and hard.
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  50. “The role of political leadership is to unite diverse communities, ensure vulnerable people are given the tools they need to thrive and to dismantle unhelpful stereotypes and prejudice – not to amplify them,”

    This PR piece needed some serious editing before it went out:

    The roll of the political class is to make itself invulnerable by dismantling functional communities with imported, dysfunctional patrons (takers) who are encouraged to wield vicious stereotypes of the host-citizens (givers) to amplify their (the givers) increasing helplessness and irrelevance.

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  51. Jake says:

    The best way to understand Reconstruction is that it began as punishment of backward whites who failed to bow before the sacred Federal Government and had made that worse by being adamantly opposed to the doubly sacred Emancipation Proclamation. Then Reconstruction became really nasty when those already bad whites dared notice that blacks given power immediately began acting like baboons.

    What good whites learned from that era is that they must slaughter bad whites , and brutally control the bad white survivors, so that the Negroes may shine as Numinous. And they also learned that whites who notice that Negroes are Numinous in ways that recall baboons are to be destroyed politically, culturally, and economically.

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  52. The UK Daily Mail yesterday ran a story about a grooming and rape gang: 31 men and 1 woman were to be prosecuted. In the old days of even last year, they would have published a panel of pictures of the accused, but every time they did that, the pictures invariably showed a surfeit of sun people. This time around they didn’t print pics … I guess seeing 32 people who look pretty distinct from 85% of the English population is just too tiggering, but they did list the 32 names, all of which were names distinctly identified to one socio-economic grouping — names like Husain and Ali.

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  53. MEH 0910 says:
    @PiltdownMan
    Somewhat OT:


    The presence of anonymous commenters with serial numbers here at unz.com, reminds me of these guys.

    http://www.favslist.com/photos/pages/x1/Beagle-Boys-1419622694-101599.jpg

    https://stp.lingfil.uu.se/~starback/dcml/chars/beagleboys.html

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  54. jewbanker says:
    @Corvinus
    What does law enforcement say?

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jan/03/is-melbourne-in-the-grip-of-african-gangs-the-facts-behind-the-lurid-headlines

    An Australian official had made the claim that people in Melbourne are “scared to go out to restaurants in the nighttime.” Yet...

    https://twitter.com/timpallas/status/951312749878849536/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E951312749878849536&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fentry%2Fafrican-gang-australia_us_5a581026e4b04df054f77f7e

    What about Victorian crime statistics? Well, robbery figures rose 12 percent in the last two years, but there is a reduction in property damage, burglary and theft.

    https://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au/crime-statistics/latest-crime-data/recorded-criminal-incidents

    This source reports that "[F]igures from Victoria's Crime Statistics Agency show that Victorians born in Sudan were responsible for just 0.1 per cent of all crimes committed in 2017. 'The statistics absolutely do not support that we have a gang problem in Victoria, the statistics do not support that we have increasing crime in Victoria and the statistics show overwhelmingly that the largest number of offenders in Victoria are Australian born,' said Dr Rebecca Wickes, a senior lecturer in criminology at Monash University."

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/what-s-behind-the-african-gangs-fallout

    And here is a psychologist who offers background and context.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/prevention-now/201802/are-african-youth-gangs-in-australia-real-threat

    Sailer’s first law of NOTICING THE UNNOTICED–The media, mainstream or alternative, furnishes us with convenient concepts that make it easier to remember the facts they prefer you to know and harder to remember the facts that undermine the concepts.

    As a true blue white aussie from Victoria i can say that we DO have a africian gang problem in Melbourne. the government and police will NOT admit it. They claim our crime is falling but have promised 3000 extra police, why oh why would you do that if crime was really falling??? The sudanese population might be only 0.1% of the total population for now but they make up 0.2% of the TOTAL prison population of the state. your premise is BS mate, just like everything i’ve read from you, did you find this site with the act.il app??? https://diversitymachtfrei.wordpress.com/2018/08/08/a-jewish-swarm-consciousness-israeli-app-orchestrates-interference-in-politics-across-the-world/ Here is a quote from a book by Bob Carr, who was also the Premier of New South Wales in Australia for years, writes:
    “In my series of extended essays entitled “The War on White Australia” I described how Jeωish activism was pivotal in ending the White Australia policy and initiating the mass non-White immigration that is rapidly transforming that nation. In addition, I showed how Jeωish activism was instrumental in establishing multiculturalism as the ideological and legislative basis for social policy in Australia. Recently I explored the Jeωish role in pushing for the enactment and extension of laws banning speech deemed contrary to their interests. Given the profound impact of Jeωish ethno-politics on the Australian nation, nobody will be surprised to learn that Jeωish influence also extends to the determination of Australia’s foreign policy.”

    Those 8 mayors are traitors and deserve a traitors punishment. The only way forward for the white people of the world is to remove the jew, then remove the non whites. Abbos are cannibals and need to be put on reservations and left to their own devices. WHITE AUSTRALIA NOW!!!

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    Heh

    https://youtu.be/DqQ_VEZIxwo
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  55. jewbanker says:
    @Anonymous
    Democracy applied to immigration policy is literally Nazism, though.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/14/australian-senator-calls-for-final-solution-to-immigration-problem


    ... He said neither the former Labor prime minister Gough Whitlam, nor any subsequent government, had asked Australians what kind of immigration they wanted. “What we do need a plebiscite for is to decide who comes here.”

    Anning declared on Tuesday the reasons “for ending all further Muslim immigration are both compelling and self-evident”.

    “The record of Muslims who have already come to this country in terms of rates of crime, welfare dependency and terrorism are the worst of any migrant and vastly exceed another immigrant group,” he said.

    “The majority of Muslims in Australia of working age do not work and exist on welfare. Muslims in New South Wales and Victoria are three times more likely than other groups to be convicted of crimes.”

    “We have black African Muslim gangs terrorising Melbourne, we have Isis-sympathising Muslims trying to go overseas to try and fight for Isis and while all Muslims are not terrorists, certainly all terrorists these days are Muslims.

    “So why would anyone want to bring more of them here?”

    ... “In the days of Menzies, immigrants arriving here were not allowed to apply for welfare and that attracted exactly the right sort of hardworking people this country needed”.

    “We should go back to that and ban all immigrants from receiving welfare for the first five years after they arrive,” he said.

    The senator then invoked the term “final solution” in calling for his preferred plebiscite on the “immigration problem”.

    “The final solution to the immigration problem, of course, is a popular vote.”
     

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-45191315

    An Australian senator has been widely condemned for a speech that invoked the term "final solution" in a call for immigration restrictions based on race.

    … Political opponents denounced his speech as "disgraceful". Mr Anning said he did not need to apologise.

    "Final solution" was a term infamously used by the Nazis during the Holocaust.

    In his speech, Mr Anning said "the final solution to the immigration problem is a popular vote".

    ... The senator, a former member of Pauline Hanson's anti-Islam One Nation Party, called for a return to the White Australia Policy - which restricted non-European immigrants from 1901 until the 1960s.

    Labor's Senate leader Penny Wong, who was born in Malaysia, said the White Australia Policy had been "rightly consigned to the dustbin of history".

    ... Meanwhile, Australia's first Muslim female senator, Mehreen Faruqi, who filled a vacant seat on Wednesday, said Mr Anning had "spat in the face of millions of Australians, spewing hate and racism".
    "I'm a Muslim migrant, I'm about to be a Senator and there's not a damn thing Fraser Anning can do about it," she wrote in a piece for website Junkee.
     

    Yep, that attitude sounds about right.

    ... [Prime Minister] Turnbull told parliament: "We need to stand up for what we are... the most successful multicultural society in the world, united by democratic values that do not distinguish between race, religion, colour or cultural background."

    ... Mr Katter said he supported Mr Anning's speech "1000%" but suggested that his colleague did not know much about the Holocaust.

    "He's smart, but he hasn't read all the history books," Mr Katter told reporters.
     

    but alas even he (((Mr Anning))) is a self confessed strong supporter of the jewish community. https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/anning-says-final-solution-speech-taken-out-of-context/ar-BBLWh7t?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=mailsignout (around the 4.10 mark)

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  56. An Aussie says:

    Observe the duplicitous quotations that seek to obfuscate:

    This source reports that “[F]igures from Victoria’s Crime Statistics Agency show that Victorians born in Sudan were responsible for just 0.1 per cent of all crimes committed in 2017. ‘The statistics absolutely do not support that we have a gang problem in Victoria, the statistics do not support that we have increasing crime in Victoria and the statistics show overwhelmingly that the largest number of offenders in Victoria are Australian born,’ said Dr Rebecca Wickes, a senior lecturer in criminology at Monash University.”

    That includes 1000s of red lights run, speeding fines, etc.

    Now look at some actual detail:

    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/police-admit-sudanese-44-times-more-likely-to-break-law/news-story/8ca308022ba8fbbc4b89ed50504271c5

    But Sudanese youths were vastly over-represented in the 2015 data, responsible for 7.44 per cent of home invasions, 5.65 per cent of car thefts and 13.9 per cent of aggravated robberies, despite Sudanese-born citizens making up about 0.11 per cent of Victoria’s population

    Lies, damn lies and statistics.

    That’s 0.1% of the population of Victoria.

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  57. Tiny Duck says:

    Black Men are so manly. Just look at how a handful can dominate a community and send wimpy white bits squealing in terror

    No wonder white girls are making Black Men impregnate them

    Diversity is the future

    Look at crazy rich asians

    The time of white make privilege is over

    Your descendants will not look like you

    Get over it

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    'Black Men are so manly....

    I think I'm getting a handle on what makes Tiny Duck tick.
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  58. Hgfcbj says:

    Politicians need to be the priests and get us to fight against sin since we got rid of the priests.

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  59. Anonymous[266] • Disclaimer says:
    @PiltdownMan
    Somewhat OT:


    The presence of anonymous commenters with serial numbers here at unz.com, reminds me of these guys.

    http://www.favslist.com/photos/pages/x1/Beagle-Boys-1419622694-101599.jpg

    https://stp.lingfil.uu.se/~starback/dcml/chars/beagleboys.html

    The presence of anonymous commenters with serial numbers here at unz.com, reminds me of these guys.

    On that Jonathan Revusky “Betty Ong” conspiracy article, I once expressed my concern to Ron Unz for the tracking of my assigned anonymous number (266) based on my IP address. And that it was very convenient that Deep State can then track all of my posts easily. Ron told me I was paranoid and reassured me that Deep State wasn’t interested some irrelevant little fish like me. Like I’m like a cyber version of Brad Pitt’s character in Burn After Reading. Thanks Ron, where do I go to get my self-esteem and my James Bond self-image back?

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  60. Tyrion 2 says:
    @J.Ross
    OT remember that New Mexico compound where a jihadist, whose dad was tied to the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and is a senior advisor to an Ikhwan group, was training children to become school shooters, and a kidnapped child was likely killed in an exorcism and was buried on the property, and the judge let everybody out on bail because she couldn't see how being a terrorist with a dead kid's body was a "specific threat" ...
    Yeah, the government bulldozed the compound.
    This is real and is being reported on a mainstream site with photographs.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/new-mexico-compound-mysteriously-destroyed-by-authorities-1299928131725?v=railb
    https://media.giphy.com/media/joV1k1sNOT5xC/giphy.gif

    That is so crazy on the face of it I can only assume the bloke came across like the kind of bozo who, upon being released, would immediately lead the US security services to further accomplices.

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    Everybody's saying it's a "red team," which is certainly possible, but I cannot dispel the possibility that our judiciary is out of control. Last time a female judge was in the news it was because she decided that letting aggrieved parties (to include people that were not part of the lawsuit) line up and issue death and rape threats to the convicted man for several days was consistent with our laws and traditions.
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  61. An Aussie says:

    Observe the duplicitous quotations that seek to obfuscate:

    This source reports that “[F]igures from Victoria’s Crime Statistics Agency show that Victorians born in Sudan were responsible for just 0.1 per cent of all crimes committed in 2017. ‘The statistics absolutely do not support that we have a gang problem in Victoria, the statistics do not support that we have increasing crime in Victoria and the statistics show overwhelmingly that the largest number of offenders in Victoria are Australian born,’ said Dr Rebecca Wickes, a senior lecturer in criminology at Monash University.”

    That includes 1000s of red lights run, speeding fines, etc.

    Now look at some actual detail:

    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/police-admit-sudanese-44-times-more-likely-to-break-law/news-story/8ca308022ba8fbbc4b89ed50504271c5

    But Sudanese youths were vastly over-represented in the 2015 data, responsible for 7.44 per cent of home invasions, 5.65 per cent of car thefts and 13.9 per cent of aggravated robberies, despite Sudanese-born citizens making up about 0.11 per cent of Victoria’s population

    That’s 0.1% of the population of Victoria, 74, 56 and 139 times more likely to do certain types of crimes.

    Lies, damn lies and statistics.

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  62. @J.Ross
    OT remember that New Mexico compound where a jihadist, whose dad was tied to the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and is a senior advisor to an Ikhwan group, was training children to become school shooters, and a kidnapped child was likely killed in an exorcism and was buried on the property, and the judge let everybody out on bail because she couldn't see how being a terrorist with a dead kid's body was a "specific threat" ...
    Yeah, the government bulldozed the compound.
    This is real and is being reported on a mainstream site with photographs.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/new-mexico-compound-mysteriously-destroyed-by-authorities-1299928131725?v=railb
    https://media.giphy.com/media/joV1k1sNOT5xC/giphy.gif

    Shades of Waco. “No evidence to find here. Move along!”

    And they wonder why people believe in conspiracies.

    2) I thought Australia would be the last place that would fall for importing tons of foreigners. Guess I watched too much Crocodile Dundee.

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  63. Corvinus says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Knowing what you must know, as a reader of this blog, about the extraordinarily high per capita rates of crime committed by people of African descent everywhere from Australia to Brazil to Europe to the U.S., what’s your best argument for why countries ought to welcome large numbers of African immigrants?

    https://twitter.com/harmlessyarddog/status/1012392761046306818?s=21

    “Knowing what you must know, as a reader of this blog, about the extraordinarily high per capita rates of crime committed by people of African descent everywhere from Australia to Brazil to Europe to the U.S., what’s your best argument for why countries ought to welcome large numbers of African immigrants?”

    I would say first you need to show some work regarding your claim.

    In a related matter, what has our history said about immigration, crime, and incarceration in early twentieth-century America in regards to Eastern and Southern European immigrants?

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2831353/

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    In a related matter, what has our history said about immigration, crime, and incarceration in early twentieth-century America in regards to Eastern and Southern European immigrants?
     
    1) young males commit a disproportionate amount of crime so immigration that is disproportionately young male will involve a significant increase in crime (which will eventually revert to that population's mean crime rate once the age and gender distribution is normal).

    (nb points at mean crime rate of Ireland vs west Africa)

    2) Ireland genuinely has an alcohol problem (cos less time adapting to grain based diet imo)

    3) Sicily/southern Italy genuinely has a mafia problem (cos clannisn mountainous populations are like that).

    , @epochehusserl
    I would say first you need to show some work regarding your claim.
    -----------------------------------------
    People dont have to prove what day of the week it is Corvinus. One of the main reasons that immigration was restricted from Italy was because of the the perceived criminality, whether they are right or wrong, the majority certainly has the right to restrict immigration for some reason or no reason at all.
    , @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    "In a related matter, what has our history said about immigration, crime, and incarceration in early twentieth-century America in regards to Eastern and Southern European immigrants?"

    'The importantest fact for any GoodWhite to remember is that Irishmen and Italians were rowdy troublemakers a hundred years ago; thus, white countries must abolish their borders.' ~ Credo Corvinus

    You're becoming a self-caricature like Tiny D*ck.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1019486781899722754?s=21
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  64. slumber_j says:

    My maternal grandmother was born in Melbourne and lived there until she was eight. She’s been dead for maybe twenty years. I’m guessing she didn’t see this coming.

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    eight !!! Wow she birthed your mom very young.
    , @Neuday
    Nobody expects the African Imposition.
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  65. Corvinus says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Knowing what you must know, as a reader of this blog, about the extraordinarily high per capita rates of crime committed by people of African descent everywhere from Australia to Brazil to Europe to the U.S., what’s your best argument for why countries ought to welcome large numbers of African immigrants?

    https://twitter.com/harmlessyarddog/status/1012392761046306818?s=21

    And here is a more recent study in conjunction to the related matter.

    “Immigration-crime research over the past 20 years has widely corroborated the conclusions of a number of early 20th-century presidential commissions that found no backing for the immigration-crime connection. Although there are always individual exceptions, the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans.”

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/immigrants-do-not-increase-crime-research-shows/

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    You and Dave can hash out the immigrant crime stats issue in the US. I think the substance of the article is more specifically "Afro-Centric" and I know you'll lose big time taking the side of sub-Saharan Africans and their descendants most anywhere they are to be found in the world.
    , @pyrrhus
    Lying with statistics no doubt. Southern European immigrants were heavily into violent anarchism and gang related crime, and were of lower intelligence due to the prevalence of cousin marriage. But maybe they weren't as violent as the black population...
    , @notanon

    the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans
     
    which native-born Americans?

    if
    type A Americans have a crime rate of 1
    type B Americans have a crime rate of 10
    immigrants C have a crime rate of 2
    then
    where's the benefit to type A Americans?

    all the pro-immigration research i've ever read has been built on deliberate mathematical deception like this.

    (actually there is a benefit for those type A Americans who live in cities with lots of type B Americans as if the immigrants replace the type B Americans then the city's crime rate will go down - on the other hand those type A Americans living outside the cities who receive the displaced type B Americans will see their local crime rate go up - hence "liberals" vs deplorables)

    so basically urban liberals support mass immigration cos it quietly ethnically cleanses the local black population in a way that doesn't trouble their conscience - as opposed to just fixing the black crime problem (which could easily be done but first they'd have to admit it's a problem and they can't do that until their moral masters - the media - admit it first)
    , @Alec Leamas
    Forgive my lack of credulity, but I'm not enthusiastic to believe that "the data" are accurate when the ruling class and its bureaucratic arm so assiduously resist efforts to count the number of illegal aliens resident in the United States and/or to identify them, and refuse to cooperate with the Federal government when requested to remove illegal alien criminals.
    , @DFH
    Because "native-born americans" includes blacks
    , @Hank Archer
    "[T]he literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans.”

    The question though, really should be, do immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than the least crime-prone subset of native-born Americans?

    America already has a subset within its population that is highly crime-prone. Is that the standard that current citizens should expect new residents of the country to exceed or would it be better if less crime-prone populations were accepted as new residents?
    , @Karl
    24 Corvinus > the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans

    but there was never any need for immigration. So every immigrant-crime is a catastrophe
    , @peterike

    "Although there are always individual exceptions, the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans.”

     

    LOL! That's because they get compared to American blacks, whose rate of crime is so astronomically higher than everyone else's, that even criminal Mestizos pale in comparison.

    Let me know when somebody does a study on immigrant crime rates vs. those of legacy white Americans. And besides, as we've often seen shown around here, 2nd and 3rd generation immigrant crime and dysfunction goes up.
    , @Anon
    The difference btw then and now, of course, is that then the govt/media/elite wasn't arguing that "Not every immigrant is a crook" means that "No immigrant can be arrested, you racist." E.g., New Mexico.
    , @Aristophanes
    The US studies conflate skilled migrants with an estimate of the illegal immigrant population - skilled migrants who pass stringent testing for visas have a lower rate than the US average, while illegal immigrants have a higher rate - aggregating the two while undercounting illegal immigrants makes the "immigrant" category look below the US average.

    Australia's skilled migration is relatively competently handled - see Anatoly Karlin's breakdown of OECD PISA data showing that immigrants in the education system are not worse off than the Australian born students. "Not Sending Their Best": World Map of IQ Drop Due to Immigration"

    The main problem Australia has with immigrant crime is humanitarian intake (refugees). Australian data comes from the Australian Bureau of Statistics study Prisoners in Australia, 2017 - prisoner incarceration rate varies massively by country of origin - many Asian countries with a lot of skilled immigrants (eg India) have less than half the average incarceration rate, while Vietnam and middle eastern refugee born countries are higher (Afghanistan) and the Sudan born refugees have ~6x the non-indigenous incarceration rate. The Australian indigenous incarceration rate is about 15x the non-indigenous average

    "Acts intended to cause injury was the most common offence for prisoners born in New Zealand and Sudan, representing 24% and 38% of these populations respectively.
    Illicit drug offences was the most common offence for prisoners born in Hong Kong (80%), Vietnam (72%), China (63%) and Malaysia (62%)."

    http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/[email protected]/DetailsPage/4517.02017?OpenDocument

    Table 22 PRISONERS, selected country of birth by state/territory
    Selected country of birth Imprisonment rate

    India 33.3
    Italy 40.4
    Sri Lanka 54.5
    Germany 55.3
    United Kingdom 59.3
    Philippines 59.6
    Korea, Republic of (South) 60.6
    Greece 62.0
    South Africa 62.5
    China 68.0
    Ireland 77.2
    Other 81.0
    United States of America 93.9
    Malaysia 101.1
    Taiwan (Province of China) 106.3
    Canada 124.0
    Thailand 136.7
    Hong Kong (SAR of China) 182.8
    Fiji 191.6
    Turkey 193.4
    Total 213.3
    New Zealand 224.8
    Iraq 247.1
    Afghanistan 247.8
    Iran 255.1
    Lebanon 258.7
    Australia 265.9
    Vietnam 399.6
    Samoa 418.5
    Tonga 475.1
    Somalia 700.8
    Sudan 997.8
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  66. Mr. Anon says:
    @Corvinus
    What does law enforcement say?

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jan/03/is-melbourne-in-the-grip-of-african-gangs-the-facts-behind-the-lurid-headlines

    An Australian official had made the claim that people in Melbourne are “scared to go out to restaurants in the nighttime.” Yet...

    https://twitter.com/timpallas/status/951312749878849536/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E951312749878849536&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fentry%2Fafrican-gang-australia_us_5a581026e4b04df054f77f7e

    What about Victorian crime statistics? Well, robbery figures rose 12 percent in the last two years, but there is a reduction in property damage, burglary and theft.

    https://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au/crime-statistics/latest-crime-data/recorded-criminal-incidents

    This source reports that "[F]igures from Victoria's Crime Statistics Agency show that Victorians born in Sudan were responsible for just 0.1 per cent of all crimes committed in 2017. 'The statistics absolutely do not support that we have a gang problem in Victoria, the statistics do not support that we have increasing crime in Victoria and the statistics show overwhelmingly that the largest number of offenders in Victoria are Australian born,' said Dr Rebecca Wickes, a senior lecturer in criminology at Monash University."

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/what-s-behind-the-african-gangs-fallout

    And here is a psychologist who offers background and context.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/prevention-now/201802/are-african-youth-gangs-in-australia-real-threat

    Sailer’s first law of NOTICING THE UNNOTICED–The media, mainstream or alternative, furnishes us with convenient concepts that make it easier to remember the facts they prefer you to know and harder to remember the facts that undermine the concepts.

    The Guardian is a protector of state orthodoxy. I don’t care what it says.

    I don’t care what you say either, you credulous fool.

    How about YOU go to Africa, and be enriched by its vibrant folkways.

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  67. Ed says:

    Keep in mind as far as turning back immigration from the third world, Australia is a leader in the West. They went to battle with the UN, NGOs and activists on refugees and won. Their policy on refugees arriving by sea is one the EU should follow and is trying to follow, this far Arab countries on the Mediterranean aren’t willing to play ball though.

    I also believe Australia has banned refugees from the Sudan and Somalia. They’re also becoming pretty agressive about deporting South Sudanese criminals back to their country.

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    Here's the problem:
    Australia imports 290,000 migrants every year, into a Country of 25 million.
    Of those 290,000, 29,000 are refugees from Africa and Asia, who then have the Right to bring in hordes of family members, such as aged parents, who receive the Age Pension the moment they step off the plane.
    Over and above that are Asians on Work Visas who never go home, and Asian students who never go home. Students from Venezuela are recent additions to our Welfare Rolls too.
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  68. Corvinus says:
    @James Speaks

    How can Australia be a democracy when rifts are turned into election issues? The essence of democracy is that elections shouldn’t decide anything.
     
    There is the official reality of "Gangs, what gangs, there are no gangs except gangs of whites who persecute Africans."

    Then there is the more useful Alt-Reality that says Gangs are dangerous like packs of hyenas.

    Darwinian selection, etc. Finally, Australia has some usefulness. With a smaller European-descendent population and access to abundant African and South Asian immigrants, Australia will reach critical mass sooner than we do, and we will be able to see what is in store for us, here in the US of A.

    To steal a phrase, India has cattle. We (and Australians) have negroes.

    “There is the official reality of…Then there is the more useful Alt-Reality…”

    “More useful” or “more deceitful” to Who? Whom?

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  69. Rob McX says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist
    Cue descendants of Italian and Irish mobsters not to mention WASP smugglers hitting the fainting couch at the idea of crime. Bah gawd, I never.._

    Anyhoo ofcourse it's fear mongering, if it wasn't they'd be described as appropriate: Somali, Nigerian gangs e.t.c

    I haave a hunch there aren't many Sudanese gangsters. Any Aussies care to comment?

    All those online princes with bank accounts are Swedes using Nigerian proxy servers.

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    You jest but you're not faroff. Recent reports on FBI arrests of online scammers show a fair bit to not reside in Nigeria. In addition there was the arrest of a white scammer that made the front pages.

    That said, it is oddly hilarious to see whites throwing hissy fits atAfricans scamming as they meekly follow their leaders to budget-busting, never-ending wars.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    LOL!
    , @Pericles

    All those online princes with bank accounts are Swedes using Nigerian proxy servers.

     

    ... Swedes who once may have been Nigerians but now are at least as Swedish as anyone else, bigots.
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  70. @Rob McX
    All those online princes with bank accounts are Swedes using Nigerian proxy servers.

    You jest but you’re not faroff. Recent reports on FBI arrests of online scammers show a fair bit to not reside in Nigeria. In addition there was the arrest of a white scammer that made the front pages.

    That said, it is oddly hilarious to see whites throwing hissy fits atAfricans scamming as they meekly follow their leaders to budget-busting, never-ending wars.

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  71. Anonymous[600] • Disclaimer says:

    “We stand together to say that we value the contribution of these residents, deeply appreciate the diversity of culture and experience they bring to our cities,” City of Moreland Mayor John Kavanagh said. …“

    What unique value do Africans bring to an established white society? Who exactly appreciates their diversity? As Steve points out, whites are physically afraid of Africans, and why not? Any encounter, even the most benign one, can result in humiliation, severe physical injury, or death. There are countless news stories and YouTube videos of whites who have been physically assaulted or killed by Africans for merely knocking on car windows, arguing over a parking space, or simply sitting too close in a crowded subway train. And blacks evince pack animal behavior so if one incapacitates a victim, others will join in the assault up to the point of murdering someone lying unconscious in the street. They are the pit bulls of the human breed. Nobody wants them around because they are dangerously unpredictable.

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    White women want them around. Like they do pit bulls. Women need male dominance and violence like Madonna needed Sean Penn. The love of her life she says.

    If native men are not violent enough they will import it.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    As Steve points out, whites are physically afraid of Africans, and why not?

    Africans have a psychological advantage in a confrontation in that they don't concern themselves with the consequences of violence. The prospect of going to jail doesn't seem to worry them. They also often don't maintain proportionality in their response--in a situation where an angry verbal response or even a small shove might be appropriate, they'll deliver a deathblow or a fatal stab or gunshot wound.

    Meanwhile, as a white man, I consider factors such as the proportionality of violence and the possibility of going to jail if I overreact.
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  72. @Mr. Blank
    Our esteemed leaders in the West might be much more effective if all their public statements didn’t sound like Brezhnev-era Pravda editorials.

    Brezhnev’s most redeeming feature was his ineffectiveness. Careful what you wish for.

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  73. AndrewR says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Meanwhile, an Aussie MP uses “final solution” to describe popular vote on Muslim and African immigration. A conspiracy theorist might wonder if he used that phrase to discredit complaints about immigration.


    https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1029930808960864256?s=21

    Ridiculous. He meant it as in “to settle the immigration issue once and for all.” Who can say he had ever even heard of the alleged German Endlösung? Not everyone has had your education.

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    AGREED, Andrew.

    In "Even Down-Under - you can't say anything.", I pondered on whether this guy knew the term to begin with. Even if he did, it's not freaking trademarked, for cryin' out loud!
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  74. Barnard says:

    OT: Woke ESPN on intergender pro wrestling. They want to know, does it empower women or promote domestic violence? With 170 fans at the event this reporter covered, this is obviously an important story.

    http://www.espn.com/espnw/feature/24364018/intergender-wrestling-equality-women-violence-them?addata=espn:frontpage

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    I guess the Ebonic SPorts Network doesn't remember the day when Chyna almost fractured Mick Foley's skull with a cage door. Pro wrestling isn't for the faint of heart, as Foley points out on his "Fake Wrestler" t-shirt.

    https://www.grailed.com/listings/3928647-vintage-99-wwf-wcw-wwe-mick-foley-fake-wrestler-t-shirt
    , @Harry Baldwin
    Andy Kaufman was way ahead of the curve on this one and the women decided they didn't care for it.
    , @Rosie

    OT: Woke ESPN on intergender pro wrestling. They want to know, does it empower women or promote domestic violence?
     
    How could something that destigmatizes striking women possibly not domestic violence?
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  75. From Melbourne to Stockholm, the provinces of the American Empire ape the metropole and end up with American problems. America pumps out an endless stream of happy talk and lies in order to paper over its racial problems via Hollywood, its media and academia. Provinces in America’s empire then go ahead and believe it. Any politician or commentator who doesn’t go along with America’s magical thinking on race and immigration gets weeded out. The mass media Megaphone made sure of that. Lie about Detroit for 50 years and you get Little Detroits in Melbourne, Stockholm, Frankfurt, etc, etc.

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    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    It's just a luck of the draw that this gentle soul ended up in the UK rather than Australia. No real changes in policy will come out of this:

    Asylum Seeker Terror Suspect Granted British Citizenship Just Weeks Before Failed Attack
    https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/08/16/asylum-seeker-terror-suspect-granted-british-citizenship-just-weeks-before-failed-attack/
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  76. @PiltdownMan
    Somewhat OT:


    The presence of anonymous commenters with serial numbers here at unz.com, reminds me of these guys.

    http://www.favslist.com/photos/pages/x1/Beagle-Boys-1419622694-101599.jpg

    https://stp.lingfil.uu.se/~starback/dcml/chars/beagleboys.html

    So, I take it that you are known as “Piltdown Man” at your sinecure six-figure job with the Board of Education.

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  77. BB753 says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist
    Cue descendants of Italian and Irish mobsters not to mention WASP smugglers hitting the fainting couch at the idea of crime. Bah gawd, I never.._

    Anyhoo ofcourse it's fear mongering, if it wasn't they'd be described as appropriate: Somali, Nigerian gangs e.t.c

    I haave a hunch there aren't many Sudanese gangsters. Any Aussies care to comment?

    Nigerians as gangsters is a stereotype all over Africa. You know, there’s a lot of truth behind most stereotypes. I hear Nigerians aren’t very popular among local Blacks in South Africa. It must be those dodgy Igbos, not those genius Wakandan Igbos we’re lectured about here.

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    My bad, it should read: "It must be those dodgy Yorubans, not those genius Wakandan Igbos we’re lectured about here.
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  78. @Corvinus
    And here is a more recent study in conjunction to the related matter.

    "Immigration-crime research over the past 20 years has widely corroborated the conclusions of a number of early 20th-century presidential commissions that found no backing for the immigration-crime connection. Although there are always individual exceptions, the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans."

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/immigrants-do-not-increase-crime-research-shows/

    You and Dave can hash out the immigrant crime stats issue in the US. I think the substance of the article is more specifically “Afro-Centric” and I know you’ll lose big time taking the side of sub-Saharan Africans and their descendants most anywhere they are to be found in the world.

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  79. pyrrhus says:
    @Corvinus
    And here is a more recent study in conjunction to the related matter.

    "Immigration-crime research over the past 20 years has widely corroborated the conclusions of a number of early 20th-century presidential commissions that found no backing for the immigration-crime connection. Although there are always individual exceptions, the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans."

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/immigrants-do-not-increase-crime-research-shows/

    Lying with statistics no doubt. Southern European immigrants were heavily into violent anarchism and gang related crime, and were of lower intelligence due to the prevalence of cousin marriage. But maybe they weren’t as violent as the black population…

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    "Lying with statistics no doubt. Southern European immigrants were heavily into violent anarchism and gang related crime, and were of lower intelligence due to the prevalence of cousin marriage."

    Then they should go back, right?

    "But maybe they weren’t as violent as the black population…"

    Maybe, huh.
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  80. notanon says:
    @Corvinus
    And here is a more recent study in conjunction to the related matter.

    "Immigration-crime research over the past 20 years has widely corroborated the conclusions of a number of early 20th-century presidential commissions that found no backing for the immigration-crime connection. Although there are always individual exceptions, the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans."

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/immigrants-do-not-increase-crime-research-shows/

    the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans

    which native-born Americans?

    if
    type A Americans have a crime rate of 1
    type B Americans have a crime rate of 10
    immigrants C have a crime rate of 2
    then
    where’s the benefit to type A Americans?

    all the pro-immigration research i’ve ever read has been built on deliberate mathematical deception like this.

    (actually there is a benefit for those type A Americans who live in cities with lots of type B Americans as if the immigrants replace the type B Americans then the city’s crime rate will go down – on the other hand those type A Americans living outside the cities who receive the displaced type B Americans will see their local crime rate go up – hence “liberals” vs deplorables)

    so basically urban liberals support mass immigration cos it quietly ethnically cleanses the local black population in a way that doesn’t trouble their conscience – as opposed to just fixing the black crime problem (which could easily be done but first they’d have to admit it’s a problem and they can’t do that until their moral masters – the media – admit it first)

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    "all the pro-immigration research i’ve ever read has been built on deliberate mathematical deception like this."

    No, what you have here is a confirmation bias, and anything that does not fit your worldview automatically becomes labeled as "deception".
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  81. nonam says:
    @slumber_j
    My maternal grandmother was born in Melbourne and lived there until she was eight. She's been dead for maybe twenty years. I'm guessing she didn't see this coming.

    eight !!! Wow she birthed your mom very young.

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    I don’t think that makes sense even as a joke.
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  82. Buckwheat says:

    See I knew it didn’t have nothing to do with picking cotton…….

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  83. Jack D says:

    This reminds me of the NPR interview a couple of weeks ago with the guy who was leading the massive (20 person) Nazi rally in Washington. He mentioned that on average, Asians have a higher IQ than whites who have a higher IQ than blacks. The interviewer didn’t challenge him directly on this (because she couldn’t, since it is true) but instead asked him something like, “How does this help to unite us?”

    The standard for journalism today is, is this story damaging or helpful to the CotF? If it is helpful – let’s say some rural legislator has used the words “final solution” because he wants a solution that is final but is too dumb to know that phrase is on the Index Prohibitorum, then you pound the hell out of it, even if the story is halfway around the world. If it is not helpful, say it involves “African gangs” terrorizing the citizens of that country, then crickets. Or as Iowahawk says, “Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow.”

    We even have a name for such things. We call them “hatefacts”. A hatefact is something that is true but is wrong to bring up because it damages the CotF. Say you are a college educated white female – it’s no good to remind you that you are in danger of being raped and murdered by your brown and black brothers in the CotF. You should never do things like comparing the rate of black on white rape vs. white on black. It’s much better to displace your fear and anxiety on imaginary white rapists and sexual harassers.

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    CotF?
    , @Stan d Mute

    It’s much better to displace your fear and anxiety on imaginary white rapists and sexual harassers.
     
    Plus, it has the massive benefit of preventing the epidemic of crime from ever stopping. This guarantees the legions of useless cops and “federal law enforcement” permanent sinecures. That fewer than half the Nation’s rapes and murders are ever solved and criminals punished is a feature, not a bug. And we have a word for this too (thanks Sam Francis!): Anarcho-Tyranny

    By keeping us (particularly women) permanently frightened of rape by imaginary rapists while protecting the real rapists, we are more frightened of what might happen without Big Brother than we are of Big Brother (or his negro little “brothers”) himself. It is crimethink to ask why the majority of heinous crimes aren’t solved while cops bugger one another on duty, eat donuts, and punish us for evils like driving too fast or watering our lawns on the wrong days. It’s crimethink to ask who is really doing the raping and murdering. All of it is by design comrade. Nobody ever tries to work himself out of a paycheck. Crime does pay, but mostly to the useless worms paid to prevent it.

    This is why no government employee (or anybody who receives more in government money than he pays in taxes) should ever be allowed to vote.
    , @Pericles

    The interviewer didn’t challenge him directly on this (because she couldn’t, since it is true) but instead asked him something like, “How does this help to unite us?”

     

    A rich question from someone who lives off stirring up racial hatred and strife on a daily basis.
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  84. @Achmed E. Newman
    Man, it's getting to be where you'd better go see the world really soon or there will be no point. It's not just the castles in Germany, cafes in France, ruins and cathedrals in Italy, strange flora and fauna Downunder, etc. It's the people and cultures that lots of us have gone and partaken of that made trips overseas special.

    Why leave the suburbs of Detroit or Chicago to go to any of these places if it's gonna feel like you are downtown, where you don't go much .... for a damn good reason?

    Do they have "refugees" in the Galapagos Islands, does anyone know? Maybe that's where we'll go. It's all turtles nowadays anyway. It's turtles all the way down.

    The point of Diversity is for everybody and everywhere to be like everybody and everywhere else.

    The wilderness areas will go to, in the name of “affordable housing.”

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  85. Neuday says:
    @slumber_j
    My maternal grandmother was born in Melbourne and lived there until she was eight. She's been dead for maybe twenty years. I'm guessing she didn't see this coming.

    Nobody expects the African Imposition.

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    Did nobody else get that?! Good one, Neuday.
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  86. notanon says:
    @Corvinus
    "Knowing what you must know, as a reader of this blog, about the extraordinarily high per capita rates of crime committed by people of African descent everywhere from Australia to Brazil to Europe to the U.S., what’s your best argument for why countries ought to welcome large numbers of African immigrants?"

    I would say first you need to show some work regarding your claim.

    In a related matter, what has our history said about immigration, crime, and incarceration in early twentieth-century America in regards to Eastern and Southern European immigrants?

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2831353/

    In a related matter, what has our history said about immigration, crime, and incarceration in early twentieth-century America in regards to Eastern and Southern European immigrants?

    1) young males commit a disproportionate amount of crime so immigration that is disproportionately young male will involve a significant increase in crime (which will eventually revert to that population’s mean crime rate once the age and gender distribution is normal).

    (nb points at mean crime rate of Ireland vs west Africa)

    2) Ireland genuinely has an alcohol problem (cos less time adapting to grain based diet imo)

    3) Sicily/southern Italy genuinely has a mafia problem (cos clannisn mountainous populations are like that).

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  87. @Corvinus
    And here is a more recent study in conjunction to the related matter.

    "Immigration-crime research over the past 20 years has widely corroborated the conclusions of a number of early 20th-century presidential commissions that found no backing for the immigration-crime connection. Although there are always individual exceptions, the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans."

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/immigrants-do-not-increase-crime-research-shows/

    Forgive my lack of credulity, but I’m not enthusiastic to believe that “the data” are accurate when the ruling class and its bureaucratic arm so assiduously resist efforts to count the number of illegal aliens resident in the United States and/or to identify them, and refuse to cooperate with the Federal government when requested to remove illegal alien criminals.

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    "Forgive my lack of credulity, but I’m not enthusiastic to believe that “the data” are accurate when the ruling class and its bureaucratic arm so assiduously resist efforts to count the number of illegal aliens resident in the United States and/or to identify them, and refuse to cooperate with the Federal government when requested to remove illegal alien criminals."

    It is other than surprising people would take this approach by way of a red herring. Apparently, it's a ton easier for you to hand wave and dismiss the sources I provided, rather than dig deep and investigate to what extent is the content truthful and accurate.

    Exactly why the meme "Fake News" is leading to a destructive course of action--an inability or an unwillingness to think intelligently on important matters.
    , @fish
    Whew what a relief......Corvy from the marketing department is here to set you straight!
    , @Stan d Mute

    the ruling class and its bureaucratic arm so assiduously resist efforts to count the number of illegal aliens resident
     
    Oh they’re eager to count them all right, that count determines political power in the House and apportionment of your tax dollars in spending.
    , @JerseyJeffersonian
    Alec,

    Corvinus is perfectly willing to advance whatever leftist-skewed reports and studies as The Gospel Truth, is impervious to the idea that their origins in the fever swamp of Cultural Marxism might limit our desire to attribute unquestioned validity to these ideologically-massaged pronouncements, and is constantly handing out assignments for everyone who responds skeptically to this codswallow to come up with contrary accounts (not that he would accept them were they to be produced). His posting strategy is like being hit with a string of SLAAP suits, suits often based on nothing but the desire to wear one down, and almost always with little to no basis in fact. That's how he rolls. As with his link to the "Scientific" American article, just look at the picture at its head with the crowd's signage basically stating the conclusions that will be reached in the article; i.e., nobody is illegal, immigrants without exception welcome, welcome, welcome. It is from the new, Trotskyite recension of SA, dating from 2017 if there is any doubt, and thoroughly imbued with TDS, so what would one expect, I mean seriously? Feh.

    But further to your point, in self-isolated, willfully unassimilating populations, the community standard is "snitches get stiches", so even if there were some in those populations of illegal aliens who would be happy to see the criminals in their communities arrested and prosecuted, they fear the immediate danger of retaliation. This makes it extremely difficult for police and prosecutors to build cases. I see this all of the time in my nearest city, Philadelphia, where intimidation serves to squelch law enforcement efforts to protect not only the surrounding community, but also those within the illegal immigrant community.

    But the obvious conclusion, that if a whole community is comprised of people whose very first act in this country is to break the laws concerning immigration, that little better can be expected downstream regardless (or perhaps, because) of the puling and whining of their SJW advocates. You want to go head on at criminality? You uproot criminogenic environments. But no, the special pleading and hand wringing starts with the SJWs and never, ever stops.
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  88. @International Jew

    Australian-African community leader Maker Mayek
     
    How come the expression there is "Australian-African", but here it's the other way around -- "African-American"? Is this one of those hemisphere/coriolis force things again?

    Surprisingly, yes.

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  89. Jack D says:

    OT – here is a very iStevish article about the age that women have their first babies:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/04/upshot/up-birth-age-gap.html

    It would be interesting to correlate this with voting patterns but even eyeballing it I think the correlation will be pretty strong, at least among white voters.

    It’s a little shocking that the chart starts at age 14 – it’s really hard for me to conceive (no pun intended) of a 14 year old being a mother. But women now are sometimes pushing having their first (and probably only) child into their late 30s and even early 40s, which is just as crazy. I can understand delaying having a 1st child until college graduation (although a lot of mothers I knew in my parent’s generation had their kids 1st and then went back to college when kids reached school age and this worked out fine for them) but it would be better if the expected pattern in UMC circles was undergraduate degree, then baby, then grad school/work. This would put age at 1st birth in the window of 22 to 25, which is a lot healthier and closer to what nature intended than 30+. I don’t know how we get there though.

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    I think nature intended 14, not 22.

    At least that's what I remember from Amazon/New Guinea hunter-gatherer documentaries.
    , @Desiderius
    Undergrad degree at 45.
    , @Anon
    Two things are conspicuous by their absence in that NYT motherhood age piece:

    1. A breakdown by race, and by immigration status or mother's country of birth.

    2. A discussion of the future demographic consequences of each group's behavior. The San Francisco 40 year old and her precious IVF son Lee reminded me of the couple in Idiocracy.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=icmRCixQrx8
    , @AnotherDad

    … it would be better if the expected pattern in UMC circles was undergraduate degree, then baby, then grad school/work. This would put age at 1st birth in the window of 22 to 25, which is a lot healthier and closer to what nature intended than 30+. I don’t know how we get there though.
     
    Thanks Jack--for link and topic. This is a hugely important "conversation". Ridiculously delayed marriage and child bearing of our "educated" classes is heading us toward a dysgenic disaster.

    Personally i'd be happy just to see the graph shift to the middle between those two (non-college and college) bumps in the 2016 graph--with lots of first babies coming in the mid/late 20s. With proper direction a woman should by then have enough "know thyself" under her belt to determine the sort of guy she wants and land him while she still has her looks and is offering "young and ripe" sex appeal in return. And a first baby for a college grad at 26 or 27 still gives her time to have a relatively big family if so motivated, which is what we need to turn around dysgenic fertility.

    As for fixes:

    #1 is obvious -- end immigration.
    Stop jacking up the pressure on jobs, housing, schools, traffic ... Steve's affordable family formation. Don't do that and everything else is pointless. We're headed toward being an "Asian" nation in terms of crowding but made up of whites, latins, blacks.

    #2 change the narrative.
    And not just correcting the messaging around "the meaning of life", "what's important", "what makes women happy". Also need to restablish the notion that people belong to a nation and civilization. That they are part of something bigger--and that something is wonderful. That by building a family they are extending Western civilization--the greatest civilization in human history.
    (Sorry Chinese, Indians ... that's just the way it is.)

    This is probably the toughest job of all. We need to give Hollyweird the bums' rush and build a new one. New media. New academia. This is a much bigger job that even 1945 in Germany. It's not just physical rubble but intellectual/cultural rubble we must cart off, dump and rebuild.


    Those two essentially fix the problem. But i think there are some useful technocratic steps as well.

    #3 improve and shortern "education"
    Make residential college optional/irrelevant. On-line instruction. Exams where kids can show they can read, write, reason, do algebra, read and interpret graphs, do basic stats, demonstrate basic historical and cultural knowledge and demonstrate knowledge of particular degreed disciplines.

    Folks pursuing advanced technical education who really need to be in the lab, or are really going to pursue ivory tower careers can go on to "university".

    There are so many "wins" here it's ridiculous:
    -- kids get through it faster and on to adult life
    -- kids can have a real "goal" worth pursuing during their high school years; teenage wheel spinning can be reigned in
    -- end/mitigate the "good school" rat race
    -- end the Asian SAT cramming nonsense
    -- better teaching; (the Teaching Company and like courses are better than typical college instruction)
    -- end/mitigate the leftist indoctrination nonsense; (The fact based nature of most of what's asked significantly reduces their lattitude and when employers can actually see what "learning" occurred the value of the A in greivance history 301 is much reduced. In fact, kids who take the grievance studies 301 exam might find employers are much *less* interested in them.)
    -- dramatically lower the cultural salience of Harvard and the like
    -- put a lot of leftist--useless eater--academics out to pasture and make them get useful jobs as barristas or stocking shelves at Walmart, etc.
    and
    -- end of mammoth "send kids to college" expense, greatly reduces parental concern about affording a child or another child; should immediately boost college educated couples fertility

    #4 ... hmm ... ok, so excited about #3 that i forgot my #4.


    Anyway this is a fixable problem, but the gist of what it requires is a nation that self-confidently loves itself and ergo cares about reproducing itself. If you don't have that no amount of technocratic tweaking is going to fix it.
    , @Anon
    So these babies are the products of artificial insemnation? No men involved? No married women involved?

    With no men around to help conceive the babies, help raise, or even acknowledge them, no wonder birth rates are so low.

    But never fear, millions of Hispanic Asian Arab and African immigrants will raise the population to unbearable levels. San Francisco is already building Hong King style high rise condos, 400 sq ft 2 bedrooms to accommodate 20 people.
    , @Anon
    Who are you to tell women you will never meet when to have children and when to go to grad school?

    In your imaginary universe, it seems there are no men or fathers involved. Or a fairy godmother will just deliver a husband on a women’s 21st birthday so she can have 3 children at age 22, 23 and 24.
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  90. @Cagey Beast
    From Melbourne to Stockholm, the provinces of the American Empire ape the metropole and end up with American problems. America pumps out an endless stream of happy talk and lies in order to paper over its racial problems via Hollywood, its media and academia. Provinces in America's empire then go ahead and believe it. Any politician or commentator who doesn't go along with America's magical thinking on race and immigration gets weeded out. The mass media Megaphone made sure of that. Lie about Detroit for 50 years and you get Little Detroits in Melbourne, Stockholm, Frankfurt, etc, etc.

    It’s just a luck of the draw that this gentle soul ended up in the UK rather than Australia. No real changes in policy will come out of this:

    Asylum Seeker Terror Suspect Granted British Citizenship Just Weeks Before Failed Attack

    https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/08/16/asylum-seeker-terror-suspect-granted-british-citizenship-just-weeks-before-failed-attack/

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  91. RudyM says:
    @J.Ross
    OT remember that New Mexico compound where a jihadist, whose dad was tied to the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and is a senior advisor to an Ikhwan group, was training children to become school shooters, and a kidnapped child was likely killed in an exorcism and was buried on the property, and the judge let everybody out on bail because she couldn't see how being a terrorist with a dead kid's body was a "specific threat" ...
    Yeah, the government bulldozed the compound.
    This is real and is being reported on a mainstream site with photographs.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/new-mexico-compound-mysteriously-destroyed-by-authorities-1299928131725?v=railb
    https://media.giphy.com/media/joV1k1sNOT5xC/giphy.gif

    It certainly smells funny. Smells like the FBI, specifically. The group’s connection to someone linked to the 1993 WTC bombing already sets off alarms. Maybe this group wasn’t supposed to be stopped so soon.

    On the other hand, I don’t suspect any deep state (to be lazy about it) hand in the release of the suspects. That’s just New Mexico.

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    The FBI had a string of fake terror busts where they rat-f'd harmless idiots with FBI-supplied weapons and plans. Every one of these fake investgations that went before a real judge with real legal protection for the accused resulted in a bad day for the FBI; their record in the star chamber was better.
    And I am sick to death of this refuted nonsense about letting people go to get the big fish. It didn't work with gangs or drugs and it doesn't work here, and it just happens to overlap perfectly with what a corrupted agency would do and say. This was the plot of the first episode of the Sopranos and it's invoked like a prayer in every interview, like this is the only strategy they know, so good thing they're always repeating it, that way they won't forget. As as discussed earlier, gangs break when you enforce the law and thrive when you go after the big fish. What will these people say when the big fish turns out to be a Gulf State princeling? Oh, that's right, they'll say and do nothing.
    But it's Russian hackers who are attacking our faith in unelected unaccountable national bureaucracies whose agents retain their clearances when they depart to lucrative private sector work.
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  92. notanon says:
    @Corvinus
    What does law enforcement say?

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jan/03/is-melbourne-in-the-grip-of-african-gangs-the-facts-behind-the-lurid-headlines

    An Australian official had made the claim that people in Melbourne are “scared to go out to restaurants in the nighttime.” Yet...

    https://twitter.com/timpallas/status/951312749878849536/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E951312749878849536&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fentry%2Fafrican-gang-australia_us_5a581026e4b04df054f77f7e

    What about Victorian crime statistics? Well, robbery figures rose 12 percent in the last two years, but there is a reduction in property damage, burglary and theft.

    https://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au/crime-statistics/latest-crime-data/recorded-criminal-incidents

    This source reports that "[F]igures from Victoria's Crime Statistics Agency show that Victorians born in Sudan were responsible for just 0.1 per cent of all crimes committed in 2017. 'The statistics absolutely do not support that we have a gang problem in Victoria, the statistics do not support that we have increasing crime in Victoria and the statistics show overwhelmingly that the largest number of offenders in Victoria are Australian born,' said Dr Rebecca Wickes, a senior lecturer in criminology at Monash University."

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/what-s-behind-the-african-gangs-fallout

    And here is a psychologist who offers background and context.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/prevention-now/201802/are-african-youth-gangs-in-australia-real-threat

    Sailer’s first law of NOTICING THE UNNOTICED–The media, mainstream or alternative, furnishes us with convenient concepts that make it easier to remember the facts they prefer you to know and harder to remember the facts that undermine the concepts.

    every police precinct in the western world which covers a high immigration area has a sergeant whose job is to downgrade crime reports…

    (this would be true even if there were no racial or ethnic differences in crime rates purely due to the different age/gender distribution i.e. larger percentage of young males)

    this is because for 30+ years promotion in the police has required enthusiastic endorsement of PC.

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    "every police precinct in the western world which covers a high immigration area has a sergeant whose job is to downgrade crime reports…"

    Perhaps, then again, probably not.
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  93. Australian slang words are often abbreviations of commonly-used words (“barbie” for barbecue, etc.). As an indication of how common African gangs and African gang violence have become in Australia, there are already slang words for them: an African gang is a “Frango”, and African gang violence is “Frango vie-vie”.

    (I just made it up, but it could be true.)

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  94. City of Moreland Mayor John Kavanagh

    Shades of Detroit 51 years ago!

    African-Australian leaders in Victoria have said the “gang” rhetoric is an example of fear-mongering and has vilified their community to the point some now feel unwelcome in the state…

    R-E-S-P-E-C-T, find out what it means to me…

    Speaking of Detroit, R.I.P., Aretha.

    City of Whittlesea Mayor Kris Pavlidis accused politicians returning to the “African gang” rhetoric of turning the rift into an election issue.

    Perhaps that should be “City of Witless”.

    Eight Melbourne mayors…

    Eight?

    What kind of city needs eight mayors? That sounds like a gang in itself.

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    Melbourne, Malmö and and all the other cities just need to stick to the Narrative and this will all work out. There will be so many Motowns we won't know what to do with all the Aretha Franklins!
    , @the one they call Desanex
    From the Muscle Shoals movie (2013): the story of Aretha Franklin recording her first big hit, “I Never Loved a Man (The Way I Love You)” in Muscle Shoals. (Fame Studios producer Rick Hall died back in January.)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbA931UxX68
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  95. anonymous[233] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Democracy applied to immigration policy is literally Nazism, though.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/14/australian-senator-calls-for-final-solution-to-immigration-problem


    ... He said neither the former Labor prime minister Gough Whitlam, nor any subsequent government, had asked Australians what kind of immigration they wanted. “What we do need a plebiscite for is to decide who comes here.”

    Anning declared on Tuesday the reasons “for ending all further Muslim immigration are both compelling and self-evident”.

    “The record of Muslims who have already come to this country in terms of rates of crime, welfare dependency and terrorism are the worst of any migrant and vastly exceed another immigrant group,” he said.

    “The majority of Muslims in Australia of working age do not work and exist on welfare. Muslims in New South Wales and Victoria are three times more likely than other groups to be convicted of crimes.”

    “We have black African Muslim gangs terrorising Melbourne, we have Isis-sympathising Muslims trying to go overseas to try and fight for Isis and while all Muslims are not terrorists, certainly all terrorists these days are Muslims.

    “So why would anyone want to bring more of them here?”

    ... “In the days of Menzies, immigrants arriving here were not allowed to apply for welfare and that attracted exactly the right sort of hardworking people this country needed”.

    “We should go back to that and ban all immigrants from receiving welfare for the first five years after they arrive,” he said.

    The senator then invoked the term “final solution” in calling for his preferred plebiscite on the “immigration problem”.

    “The final solution to the immigration problem, of course, is a popular vote.”
     

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-45191315

    An Australian senator has been widely condemned for a speech that invoked the term "final solution" in a call for immigration restrictions based on race.

    … Political opponents denounced his speech as "disgraceful". Mr Anning said he did not need to apologise.

    "Final solution" was a term infamously used by the Nazis during the Holocaust.

    In his speech, Mr Anning said "the final solution to the immigration problem is a popular vote".

    ... The senator, a former member of Pauline Hanson's anti-Islam One Nation Party, called for a return to the White Australia Policy - which restricted non-European immigrants from 1901 until the 1960s.

    Labor's Senate leader Penny Wong, who was born in Malaysia, said the White Australia Policy had been "rightly consigned to the dustbin of history".

    ... Meanwhile, Australia's first Muslim female senator, Mehreen Faruqi, who filled a vacant seat on Wednesday, said Mr Anning had "spat in the face of millions of Australians, spewing hate and racism".
    "I'm a Muslim migrant, I'm about to be a Senator and there's not a damn thing Fraser Anning can do about it," she wrote in a piece for website Junkee.
     

    Yep, that attitude sounds about right.

    ... [Prime Minister] Turnbull told parliament: "We need to stand up for what we are... the most successful multicultural society in the world, united by democratic values that do not distinguish between race, religion, colour or cultural background."

    ... Mr Katter said he supported Mr Anning's speech "1000%" but suggested that his colleague did not know much about the Holocaust.

    "He's smart, but he hasn't read all the history books," Mr Katter told reporters.
     

    Even Pauline Hanson, of White Australia, condemned him saying that it was straight from the Nazi handbook. So he has no one for him, essentially.

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  96. eah says:

    OT

    Bundeswehr wirbt mit Soldat in Frauenkleidern auf Ostbayernschau

    At a recruitment event, one of the German military personnel was a man wearing a dress and heels.

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    Corinna Miazga, an AfD member of the Bundestag from that area, commented on FB somewhat (but reasonably, after all she's a politician) unfavorably about it -- despite her reasonableness (she even hid the face to avoid confidentiality issues), FB said her post was 'hate speech' and deleted it.

    http://www.pi-news.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/FBPostMiazga-1.jpg
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  97. DFH says:
    @Corvinus
    And here is a more recent study in conjunction to the related matter.

    "Immigration-crime research over the past 20 years has widely corroborated the conclusions of a number of early 20th-century presidential commissions that found no backing for the immigration-crime connection. Although there are always individual exceptions, the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans."

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/immigrants-do-not-increase-crime-research-shows/

    Because “native-born americans” includes blacks

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  98. eah says:
    @eah
    OT

    Bundeswehr wirbt mit Soldat in Frauenkleidern auf Ostbayernschau

    At a recruitment event, one of the German military personnel was a man wearing a dress and heels.

    http://www.pi-news.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/ganz_deutschland.jpg

    Corinna Miazga, an AfD member of the Bundestag from that area, commented on FB somewhat (but reasonably, after all she’s a politician) unfavorably about it — despite her reasonableness (she even hid the face to avoid confidentiality issues), FB said her post was ‘hate speech’ and deleted it.

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    Bundeswehr verteidigt Transsexuellen an Messestand

    The Bundeswehr issued a Casey-esque statement defending the presence of a transsexual at the recruitment event in Bavaria.

    Die geschlechtliche, sexuelle, ethnische sowie religiöse Vielfalt und „die damit einhergehenden unterschiedlichen Fähigkeiten und Erfahrungen“ würden als Gewinn begriffen.

    Blah blah etc etc.
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  99. Anon[607] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    OT - here is a very iStevish article about the age that women have their first babies:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/04/upshot/up-birth-age-gap.html

    It would be interesting to correlate this with voting patterns but even eyeballing it I think the correlation will be pretty strong, at least among white voters.

    It's a little shocking that the chart starts at age 14 - it's really hard for me to conceive (no pun intended) of a 14 year old being a mother. But women now are sometimes pushing having their first (and probably only) child into their late 30s and even early 40s, which is just as crazy. I can understand delaying having a 1st child until college graduation (although a lot of mothers I knew in my parent's generation had their kids 1st and then went back to college when kids reached school age and this worked out fine for them) but it would be better if the expected pattern in UMC circles was undergraduate degree, then baby, then grad school/work. This would put age at 1st birth in the window of 22 to 25, which is a lot healthier and closer to what nature intended than 30+. I don't know how we get there though.

    I think nature intended 14, not 22.

    At least that’s what I remember from Amazon/New Guinea hunter-gatherer documentaries.

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  100. Yet another notable Cavanaugh!

    We were discussing David Lynch on the previous thread. Well, Julian Sands as “Nick Cavanaugh” was the sadistic doctor who amputated much of Sherilynn Fenn to keep her at home in daughter Jennifer Lynch’s debut.

    Though from the description, it appears that Fenn’s character is the real sadist, tearing him down verbally throughout her ordeal. Feminists savaged the film, but it sounds weirdly empowering to me.

    The story wasn’t originally Jennifer’s idea, but she was born with clubbed feet and, well, decided to run with it.

    The Chinese wait till the child is born to bind her feet, but the Lynches have the foresight to plan ahead.

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    Jennifer Lynch went on to make an extremely creepy movie, Surveillance, on what appears to be a favorite subject of hers, serial killers. Every character in it is thoroughly unpleasant, as is the movie itself -- bloody but also curiously smirky. I wish David Lych hadn't attached his name to it as executive producer, but I guess that's what one does for one's daughter.
    , @Jack D
    Sherilynn Fenn was quite the stunner in her younger days but nowadays she has really hit the wall. Recently I read that the peak age of desirability for women on online dating sites is 18 (it would probably be younger except for the law). It's all downhill after that. No wonder so many older women are bitter.
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  101. Tiny Duck says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    Man, it's getting to be where you'd better go see the world really soon or there will be no point. It's not just the castles in Germany, cafes in France, ruins and cathedrals in Italy, strange flora and fauna Downunder, etc. It's the people and cultures that lots of us have gone and partaken of that made trips overseas special.

    Why leave the suburbs of Detroit or Chicago to go to any of these places if it's gonna feel like you are downtown, where you don't go much .... for a damn good reason?

    Do they have "refugees" in the Galapagos Islands, does anyone know? Maybe that's where we'll go. It's all turtles nowadays anyway. It's turtles all the way down.

    Boo hoo

    Cry me a river

    No one cares about your stupid exclusionary civilization. The only reason you have these “wonderful” castles and catherdrals is because you STOLE FROM PEOPLE OF COLOR

    No one wants to look at pale pasty mayonnaise. The sooner we are gone the better

    We are going to create new and better more inclusive institutions and foundations

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    I think we've just read the "Rude Tiny Duck". Hopefully, regular, "Curteous Tiny Duck" will take back over the fowl body soon.

    Are you admitting, at least, T.D., that the white people invented mayonnaise? There's that, then. Doesn't it count for something? Please keep that invention in mind after you P.O.C.s put us in the camps. Oh, wait, you all don't know how to make barb wire ... OK, so much for that.
    , @SMK
    Is "tiny duck" a sobriquet for Al Sharpton? "New and better" like Detroit, Baltimore, St. Louis, Telford, Oxford, Rotherhan, Londonstan with it's Pakistani Mayor, Muslim-black Sweden, ad nauseam.
    , @Ragno

    The sooner we are gone the better....
     
    By ironic coincidence, now that Tiny done stepped in it and outed hisself as one more self-loathing white man in blackface, we can at last hurl all the hate-crazed invective at him we care to.

    If only he was worth the effort.
    , @Da Wei
    Tiny Duck, your editorial is a bit confusing:

    "The sooner we are gone the better." Gone where, TD? Are you leading us? You first, OK?

    Also, if we stole our castles from "PEOPLE OF COLOR" why aren't they all painted in garish color schemes and why do we have to pay mortgages on stuff we stole?

    Third, you don't LOOK at mayonnaise, TD, you eat it on samiches. Try it. It's good.

    Finally, I commend you for your taste in music. "Cry Me A River" was a fine Julie London song.
    You remember Julie London, don't you, TD? She was white and sang like a sultry angel.

    I'll leave you now to your, "new and better more inclusive institutions and foundations." (You are getting mo better with nouns and adjectives, by the way.)

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  102. The article says that Africans are responsible for 0.1% of the crimes committed.
    But the article also says that newspapers have very often reported about African gang crimes, lately.
    I wonder how the two facts go together: either the newspaper lie, or the statistics are misleading. Tertium non datur.

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  103. @Corvinus
    And here is a more recent study in conjunction to the related matter.

    "Immigration-crime research over the past 20 years has widely corroborated the conclusions of a number of early 20th-century presidential commissions that found no backing for the immigration-crime connection. Although there are always individual exceptions, the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans."

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/immigrants-do-not-increase-crime-research-shows/

    “[T]he literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans.”

    The question though, really should be, do immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than the least crime-prone subset of native-born Americans?

    America already has a subset within its population that is highly crime-prone. Is that the standard that current citizens should expect new residents of the country to exceed or would it be better if less crime-prone populations were accepted as new residents?

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    "The question though, really should be, do immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than the least crime-prone subset of native-born Americans?"

    And why do you think this way? Are you not begging the question?
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  104. Corvinus says:
    @Alec Leamas
    Forgive my lack of credulity, but I'm not enthusiastic to believe that "the data" are accurate when the ruling class and its bureaucratic arm so assiduously resist efforts to count the number of illegal aliens resident in the United States and/or to identify them, and refuse to cooperate with the Federal government when requested to remove illegal alien criminals.

    “Forgive my lack of credulity, but I’m not enthusiastic to believe that “the data” are accurate when the ruling class and its bureaucratic arm so assiduously resist efforts to count the number of illegal aliens resident in the United States and/or to identify them, and refuse to cooperate with the Federal government when requested to remove illegal alien criminals.”

    It is other than surprising people would take this approach by way of a red herring. Apparently, it’s a ton easier for you to hand wave and dismiss the sources I provided, rather than dig deep and investigate to what extent is the content truthful and accurate.

    Exactly why the meme “Fake News” is leading to a destructive course of action–an inability or an unwillingness to think intelligently on important matters.

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    Well Corvinus, here's your opportunity for affordable living in beautitful, sunny Southern California:

    https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/bell-gardens/crime

    Don't forget to bring along wife and your 13 and 14 y/o daughters.
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    It is other than surprising people would take this approach by way of a red herring. Apparently, it’s a ton easier for you to hand wave and dismiss the sources I provided, rather than dig deep and investigate to what extent is the content truthful and accurate.

    Exactly why the meme “Fake News” is leading to a destructive course of action–an inability or an unwillingness to think intelligently on important matters.
     
    You're missing the point as is your wont. The conclusions derivative of "studies" discussed in your link propose only that crime rates are reduced in urban areas which receive a significant influx of immigrants. So, at best you're importing somewhat less criminally inclined Hispanics to displace the All Wold Felony All Stars to exurbs a la Compton.

    From personal experience and relationships with my cop relatives and others it's a known fact that "immigrant communities" are much harder to police, with specific factors such as language barriers, immigrants not trusting police, and cultures and codes of silence so that witnesses will not cooperate. It's a joke to pretend that "immigrant communities" themselves aren't glaring examples of Anarcho-tyranny.

    All of this aside, the academy and the government(s) simply lack credibility to view the issue straight on - I cited the fact that there are recalcitrant elements of the government itself dead set against any attempt at an official tally of resident illegal aliens or to identify criminal perpetrators as illegal aliens when they are, in fact, illegal aliens. Are you proposing that Los Angeles County is doing its due diligence in keeping track of which of its perpetrators are illegal aliens?

    Additionally, your links illegal aliens with all other immigrants going back to the 1970s in a purposeful attempt to mask rates of illegal alien crime - all so that after Mr. Trump speaks of the scourge and lawlessness of illegal entries and overstays you can say "Uh, studies show that immigrants are more law abiding, hurrdeedur!"

    Finally, I'll dig into your derivatives of "studies" when your side takes a sober look at the fact that the studies reveal that blacks aren't disproportionately killed by police, and admit that "Hands Up Don't Shoot" is predicated on a bald lie.
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  105. @Jack D
    OT - here is a very iStevish article about the age that women have their first babies:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/04/upshot/up-birth-age-gap.html

    It would be interesting to correlate this with voting patterns but even eyeballing it I think the correlation will be pretty strong, at least among white voters.

    It's a little shocking that the chart starts at age 14 - it's really hard for me to conceive (no pun intended) of a 14 year old being a mother. But women now are sometimes pushing having their first (and probably only) child into their late 30s and even early 40s, which is just as crazy. I can understand delaying having a 1st child until college graduation (although a lot of mothers I knew in my parent's generation had their kids 1st and then went back to college when kids reached school age and this worked out fine for them) but it would be better if the expected pattern in UMC circles was undergraduate degree, then baby, then grad school/work. This would put age at 1st birth in the window of 22 to 25, which is a lot healthier and closer to what nature intended than 30+. I don't know how we get there though.

    Undergrad degree at 45.

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    Call it 40 and you have a deal. That's about the age that some of my friends' mothers got their degrees. Most of them got married around age 20 or so and maybe had a year or 2 of college but dropped out to get married, then had kids 1 thru 2 or 3 over the next 10 years and then when the youngest was old enough to fend for himself after school, went back to college. This still gave them enough time in the workforce to collect a teacher's pension after 20 years (most of them became school teachers).

    Now, these women could afford to do this because it was still possible in postwar America to buy a house on just your husband's salary. A starter house was $15 or $20k and there were VA loans where you had to put very little down. These were not grand houses - all 5 of you would have to share 1 bathroom and there was no central air-conditioning, and it was located someplace that had been a farm field or an orchard last week - but these are the same houses that go for $1 million + in Silicon Valley today.
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  106. Anon[607] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    OT - here is a very iStevish article about the age that women have their first babies:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/04/upshot/up-birth-age-gap.html

    It would be interesting to correlate this with voting patterns but even eyeballing it I think the correlation will be pretty strong, at least among white voters.

    It's a little shocking that the chart starts at age 14 - it's really hard for me to conceive (no pun intended) of a 14 year old being a mother. But women now are sometimes pushing having their first (and probably only) child into their late 30s and even early 40s, which is just as crazy. I can understand delaying having a 1st child until college graduation (although a lot of mothers I knew in my parent's generation had their kids 1st and then went back to college when kids reached school age and this worked out fine for them) but it would be better if the expected pattern in UMC circles was undergraduate degree, then baby, then grad school/work. This would put age at 1st birth in the window of 22 to 25, which is a lot healthier and closer to what nature intended than 30+. I don't know how we get there though.

    Two things are conspicuous by their absence in that NYT motherhood age piece:

    1. A breakdown by race, and by immigration status or mother’s country of birth.

    2. A discussion of the future demographic consequences of each group’s behavior. The San Francisco 40 year old and her precious IVF son Lee reminded me of the couple in Idiocracy.

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  107. Australia is being destroyed by mass immigration.

    Australia is an Anglo-Celtic island nation.

    Australia must go back to the WHITE AUSTRALIA POLICY.

    Certain Jewish elements and some Australians of European ancestry have pushed open borders mass immigration and nation-wrecking multiculturalism.

    Certain cynical people call Australia a resource cartel rather than a nation.

    When the globalized central banker horseshit ends and the Chinese go belly up and stop importing all the resources from Australia, the resulting economic collapse will allow Australian Anglo-Celts and Australian European Christians to use mass deportations to make Australia White Again.

    MAKE AUSTRALIA WHITE AGAIN

    The Answer To Mass Immigration Is Mass Deportation

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    bloody oath cobber. For any real white aussies that want a fair dinkum occa truth dose check out shaun surplus https://tctaunleashed.com/
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  108. @Reg Cæsar

    City of Moreland Mayor John Kavanagh
     
    Shades of Detroit 51 years ago!

    https://funnelme.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/jerome_cavanagh_keep-detroit-moving.jpg

    African-Australian leaders in Victoria have said the “gang” rhetoric is an example of fear-mongering and has vilified their community to the point some now feel unwelcome in the state…
     
    R-E-S-P-E-C-T, find out what it means to me...

    Speaking of Detroit, R.I.P., Aretha.

    City of Whittlesea Mayor Kris Pavlidis accused politicians returning to the “African gang” rhetoric of turning the rift into an election issue.
     
    Perhaps that should be "City of Witless".



    Eight Melbourne mayors...
     
    Eight?

    What kind of city needs eight mayors? That sounds like a gang in itself.

    Melbourne, Malmö and and all the other cities just need to stick to the Narrative and this will all work out. There will be so many Motowns we won’t know what to do with all the Aretha Franklins!

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  109. fish says:
    @Alec Leamas
    Forgive my lack of credulity, but I'm not enthusiastic to believe that "the data" are accurate when the ruling class and its bureaucratic arm so assiduously resist efforts to count the number of illegal aliens resident in the United States and/or to identify them, and refuse to cooperate with the Federal government when requested to remove illegal alien criminals.

    Whew what a relief……Corvy from the marketing department is here to set you straight!

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  110. OFF TOPIC

    Trump’s patriotic defense of the United States against the evil corporate media is one of the best things he has done. The evil corporate media pushes nation-wrecking open borders mass immigration and multicultural mayhem.

    Trump going after government worker baby boomer CIA scumbags like John Brennan is great also. John Brennan used his CIA power to spy on the Trump campaign. John Brennan is a treasonous partisan hack who should be prosecuted and sent to prison for his crimes against the American people and the rule of law.

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  111. OFF TOPIC

    The Corporate Media Is The Enemy Of The American People:

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  112. @Corvinus
    "Forgive my lack of credulity, but I’m not enthusiastic to believe that “the data” are accurate when the ruling class and its bureaucratic arm so assiduously resist efforts to count the number of illegal aliens resident in the United States and/or to identify them, and refuse to cooperate with the Federal government when requested to remove illegal alien criminals."

    It is other than surprising people would take this approach by way of a red herring. Apparently, it's a ton easier for you to hand wave and dismiss the sources I provided, rather than dig deep and investigate to what extent is the content truthful and accurate.

    Exactly why the meme "Fake News" is leading to a destructive course of action--an inability or an unwillingness to think intelligently on important matters.

    Well Corvinus, here’s your opportunity for affordable living in beautitful, sunny Southern California:

    https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/bell-gardens/crime

    Don’t forget to bring along wife and your 13 and 14 y/o daughters.

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    Thanks for totally skirting the actual topic at hand and proving my point. A double whammy!
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  113. @Corvinus
    "Forgive my lack of credulity, but I’m not enthusiastic to believe that “the data” are accurate when the ruling class and its bureaucratic arm so assiduously resist efforts to count the number of illegal aliens resident in the United States and/or to identify them, and refuse to cooperate with the Federal government when requested to remove illegal alien criminals."

    It is other than surprising people would take this approach by way of a red herring. Apparently, it's a ton easier for you to hand wave and dismiss the sources I provided, rather than dig deep and investigate to what extent is the content truthful and accurate.

    Exactly why the meme "Fake News" is leading to a destructive course of action--an inability or an unwillingness to think intelligently on important matters.

    It is other than surprising people would take this approach by way of a red herring. Apparently, it’s a ton easier for you to hand wave and dismiss the sources I provided, rather than dig deep and investigate to what extent is the content truthful and accurate.

    Exactly why the meme “Fake News” is leading to a destructive course of action–an inability or an unwillingness to think intelligently on important matters.

    You’re missing the point as is your wont. The conclusions derivative of “studies” discussed in your link propose only that crime rates are reduced in urban areas which receive a significant influx of immigrants. So, at best you’re importing somewhat less criminally inclined Hispanics to displace the All Wold Felony All Stars to exurbs a la Compton.

    From personal experience and relationships with my cop relatives and others it’s a known fact that “immigrant communities” are much harder to police, with specific factors such as language barriers, immigrants not trusting police, and cultures and codes of silence so that witnesses will not cooperate. It’s a joke to pretend that “immigrant communities” themselves aren’t glaring examples of Anarcho-tyranny.

    All of this aside, the academy and the government(s) simply lack credibility to view the issue straight on – I cited the fact that there are recalcitrant elements of the government itself dead set against any attempt at an official tally of resident illegal aliens or to identify criminal perpetrators as illegal aliens when they are, in fact, illegal aliens. Are you proposing that Los Angeles County is doing its due diligence in keeping track of which of its perpetrators are illegal aliens?

    Additionally, your links illegal aliens with all other immigrants going back to the 1970s in a purposeful attempt to mask rates of illegal alien crime – all so that after Mr. Trump speaks of the scourge and lawlessness of illegal entries and overstays you can say “Uh, studies show that immigrants are more law abiding, hurrdeedur!”

    Finally, I’ll dig into your derivatives of “studies” when your side takes a sober look at the fact that the studies reveal that blacks aren’t disproportionately killed by police, and admit that “Hands Up Don’t Shoot” is predicated on a bald lie.

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    "The conclusions derivative of “studies” discussed in your link propose only that crime rates are reduced in urban areas which receive a significant influx of immigrants."

    Not "studies", studies, which also looked at the surrounding environs where immigrants traverse.

    "From personal experience and relationships with my cop relatives and others it’s a known fact that “immigrant communities” are much harder to police, with specific factors such as language barriers, immigrants not trusting police, and cultures and codes of silence so that witnesses will not cooperate."

    Would that be a "hate fact" you are touting?

    "It’s a joke to pretend that “immigrant communities” themselves aren’t glaring examples of Anarcho-tyranny."

    The research, as well as the personal experiences of those living in those clearly states otherwise.

    "All of this aside, the academy and the government(s) simply lack credibility to view the issue straight on..."

    And now you are doubling down, SJW-style. You ASSUME these institutions lack credibility, thus any conclusions to the contrary of your narrative is dismissed. Instead, you must take an honest, forthright look into the data and challenge it with counter evidence. Mere hand waving makes you look foolish. And it is interesting that when the Alt Right cites specific research, it ought to be taken as the gospel.

    "I cited the fact that there are recalcitrant elements of the government itself dead set against any attempt at an official tally of resident illegal aliens or to identify criminal perpetrators as illegal aliens when they are, in fact, illegal aliens."

    Again, that is red herring. Focus on the results of the studies.

    "Are you proposing that Los Angeles County is doing its due diligence in keeping track of which of its perpetrators are illegal aliens?"

    That would be a strawman on your part. But, since I'm a good sport, I will respond. I am of the notion that urban politicians, as well as business owners, neglect to adhere to the law. Which, and I have made this known time and time again, means those responsible should be prosecuted according to our statutes currently on the books.

    Additionally, your links illegal aliens with all other immigrants going back to the 1970s in a purposeful attempt to mask rates of illegal alien crime – all so that after Mr. Trump speaks of the scourge and lawlessness of illegal entries and overstays you can say “Uh, studies show that immigrants are more law abiding, hurrdeedur!”

    Finally, I’ll dig into your derivatives of “studies” when your side takes a sober look at the fact that the studies reveal that blacks aren’t disproportionately killed by police, and admit that “Hands Up Don’t Shoot” is predicated on a bald lie.
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  114. OFF TOPIC

    Trump ought to go after that filthy FBI bastard Robert S. Mueller just like he went after that filthy CIA bastard John Brennan.

    Mueller and Brennan both push open borders mass immigration and nation-wrecking multiculturalism.

    Robert Mueller and John Brennan are two baby boomer treasonous rats from New York City.

    I don’t give a damn if Mueller was born in 1944, that’s close enough for me to call that no good bastard a baby boomer.

    NONE BUT AMERICANS TONIGHT — General George Washington

    I do not consider Robert Mueller nor John Brennan to be Americans.

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    ... two baby boomer treasonous rats from New York City.

    I don’t give a damn if Mueller was born in 1944, that’s close enough for me to call that no good bastard a baby boomer.


    Making Boomerhood central to determining who makes it on your enemies list seems unhelpful. Two reasons:

    1) The policies Boomers push were planned out and put in motion by the generations preceding them, so their guiding ideology has deeper roots than one might think.

    2) The worst 68ers around now are in their teens and twenties. They're the ones most violently enforcing the worldview of the stereotypical leftie Boomer. Second worst are the little Gen X epigones who managed to find employment under some Boomer mentor. Third worst are the actual Boomers themselves.

    The only politically active generation that still comes across as thoughtful and fair-minded are the Silent Generation and they're fading away. They were lucky enough to become adult humans before the television era. Their sense of the society and politics is based on two-way dialogue and bargaining rather than just sitting in front of the Megaphone.
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  115. @Anonymous
    Democracy applied to immigration policy is literally Nazism, though.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/14/australian-senator-calls-for-final-solution-to-immigration-problem


    ... He said neither the former Labor prime minister Gough Whitlam, nor any subsequent government, had asked Australians what kind of immigration they wanted. “What we do need a plebiscite for is to decide who comes here.”

    Anning declared on Tuesday the reasons “for ending all further Muslim immigration are both compelling and self-evident”.

    “The record of Muslims who have already come to this country in terms of rates of crime, welfare dependency and terrorism are the worst of any migrant and vastly exceed another immigrant group,” he said.

    “The majority of Muslims in Australia of working age do not work and exist on welfare. Muslims in New South Wales and Victoria are three times more likely than other groups to be convicted of crimes.”

    “We have black African Muslim gangs terrorising Melbourne, we have Isis-sympathising Muslims trying to go overseas to try and fight for Isis and while all Muslims are not terrorists, certainly all terrorists these days are Muslims.

    “So why would anyone want to bring more of them here?”

    ... “In the days of Menzies, immigrants arriving here were not allowed to apply for welfare and that attracted exactly the right sort of hardworking people this country needed”.

    “We should go back to that and ban all immigrants from receiving welfare for the first five years after they arrive,” he said.

    The senator then invoked the term “final solution” in calling for his preferred plebiscite on the “immigration problem”.

    “The final solution to the immigration problem, of course, is a popular vote.”
     

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-45191315

    An Australian senator has been widely condemned for a speech that invoked the term "final solution" in a call for immigration restrictions based on race.

    … Political opponents denounced his speech as "disgraceful". Mr Anning said he did not need to apologise.

    "Final solution" was a term infamously used by the Nazis during the Holocaust.

    In his speech, Mr Anning said "the final solution to the immigration problem is a popular vote".

    ... The senator, a former member of Pauline Hanson's anti-Islam One Nation Party, called for a return to the White Australia Policy - which restricted non-European immigrants from 1901 until the 1960s.

    Labor's Senate leader Penny Wong, who was born in Malaysia, said the White Australia Policy had been "rightly consigned to the dustbin of history".

    ... Meanwhile, Australia's first Muslim female senator, Mehreen Faruqi, who filled a vacant seat on Wednesday, said Mr Anning had "spat in the face of millions of Australians, spewing hate and racism".
    "I'm a Muslim migrant, I'm about to be a Senator and there's not a damn thing Fraser Anning can do about it," she wrote in a piece for website Junkee.
     

    Yep, that attitude sounds about right.

    ... [Prime Minister] Turnbull told parliament: "We need to stand up for what we are... the most successful multicultural society in the world, united by democratic values that do not distinguish between race, religion, colour or cultural background."

    ... Mr Katter said he supported Mr Anning's speech "1000%" but suggested that his colleague did not know much about the Holocaust.

    "He's smart, but he hasn't read all the history books," Mr Katter told reporters.
     

    “He’s smart, but he hasn’t read all the history books,” Mr Katter told reporters.

    I listened to most of his speech. Anning seems like an unpretentious salt-of-the-earth kind of guy who just wants his country back. I doubt he thinks about Jewish history much and in any case I’ve heard plenty of people say “final solution” innocently and innocuously, with no intention to refer to the holocaust.

    If I lived in Australia, I’d consider Anning’s less than exquisite sensitivity to linguistic nuance far less relevant for my safety and well-being, than his solid grasp of the meaning of Muslim immigration in the here and now.

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    A well educated person from rural Australia should know what "Final Solution" means, but people should know a lot of stuff that they don't actually know, because the average person is kind of dumb and wasn't paying attention in class they day they taught this stuff, because he felt (rightly) that this had nothing to do with him. This makes this guy dumb and not malicious.
    , @candid_observer
    His idea of a "final solution" is a popular vote.

    Has anybody noticed this is a little different from suggesting that the final solution is Auschwitz?

    Or are we not allowed to see the difference, because words are magic?

    We must have Conversations, as long as we don't have Talks and Words.

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  116. Karl says:
    @Corvinus
    And here is a more recent study in conjunction to the related matter.

    "Immigration-crime research over the past 20 years has widely corroborated the conclusions of a number of early 20th-century presidential commissions that found no backing for the immigration-crime connection. Although there are always individual exceptions, the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans."

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/immigrants-do-not-increase-crime-research-shows/

    24 Corvinus > the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans

    but there was never any need for immigration. So every immigrant-crime is a catastrophe

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  117. Jack D says:
    @Desiderius
    Undergrad degree at 45.

    Call it 40 and you have a deal. That’s about the age that some of my friends’ mothers got their degrees. Most of them got married around age 20 or so and maybe had a year or 2 of college but dropped out to get married, then had kids 1 thru 2 or 3 over the next 10 years and then when the youngest was old enough to fend for himself after school, went back to college. This still gave them enough time in the workforce to collect a teacher’s pension after 20 years (most of them became school teachers).

    Now, these women could afford to do this because it was still possible in postwar America to buy a house on just your husband’s salary. A starter house was $15 or $20k and there were VA loans where you had to put very little down. These were not grand houses – all 5 of you would have to share 1 bathroom and there was no central air-conditioning, and it was located someplace that had been a farm field or an orchard last week – but these are the same houses that go for $1 million + in Silicon Valley today.

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    Don’t live in Silicon Valley.
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  118. @Corvinus
    "Knowing what you must know, as a reader of this blog, about the extraordinarily high per capita rates of crime committed by people of African descent everywhere from Australia to Brazil to Europe to the U.S., what’s your best argument for why countries ought to welcome large numbers of African immigrants?"

    I would say first you need to show some work regarding your claim.

    In a related matter, what has our history said about immigration, crime, and incarceration in early twentieth-century America in regards to Eastern and Southern European immigrants?

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2831353/

    I would say first you need to show some work regarding your claim.
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    People dont have to prove what day of the week it is Corvinus. One of the main reasons that immigration was restricted from Italy was because of the the perceived criminality, whether they are right or wrong, the majority certainly has the right to restrict immigration for some reason or no reason at all.

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    "People dont have to prove what day of the week it is Corvinus."

    Except Dave made a statement and I called him out to offer proof. That's how discourse works.

    "One of the main reasons that immigration was restricted from Italy was because of the the perceived criminality, whether they are right or wrong..."

    It actually matters if someone is accurate about the perception.

    "the majority certainly has the right to restrict immigration for some reason or no reason at all."

    No, there has to be a reason. Otherwise, I agree.
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  119. @Achmed E. Newman
    Man, it's getting to be where you'd better go see the world really soon or there will be no point. It's not just the castles in Germany, cafes in France, ruins and cathedrals in Italy, strange flora and fauna Downunder, etc. It's the people and cultures that lots of us have gone and partaken of that made trips overseas special.

    Why leave the suburbs of Detroit or Chicago to go to any of these places if it's gonna feel like you are downtown, where you don't go much .... for a damn good reason?

    Do they have "refugees" in the Galapagos Islands, does anyone know? Maybe that's where we'll go. It's all turtles nowadays anyway. It's turtles all the way down.

    The first time I went to Toronto (about 7 years ago) is when it hit me. There is no there anymore. Wherever you go in the West the Third World is very present.

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  120. OFF TOPIC

    I thought nothing could shock a Japanese economist, but I guess I was wrong:

    https://gab.ai/RealAlexJones/posts/31817186

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  121. Jack D says:
    @International Jew

    “He’s smart, but he hasn’t read all the history books,” Mr Katter told reporters.
     
    I listened to most of his speech. Anning seems like an unpretentious salt-of-the-earth kind of guy who just wants his country back. I doubt he thinks about Jewish history much and in any case I've heard plenty of people say "final solution" innocently and innocuously, with no intention to refer to the holocaust.

    If I lived in Australia, I'd consider Anning's less than exquisite sensitivity to linguistic nuance far less relevant for my safety and well-being, than his solid grasp of the meaning of Muslim immigration in the here and now.

    A well educated person from rural Australia should know what “Final Solution” means, but people should know a lot of stuff that they don’t actually know, because the average person is kind of dumb and wasn’t paying attention in class they day they taught this stuff, because he felt (rightly) that this had nothing to do with him. This makes this guy dumb and not malicious.

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    I wouldn't call him malicious or dumb. No one criticizing him for saying "final solution" is doing it in good faith. It's pure cynicism exploiting the sacred status of Jews in Australia.

    On a related note, Holocaust denial, whether factually sound or not, does more harm than good to opponents of Hebrew Supremacy. I think a winning message is "Nothing that the Nazis did, or could have done, justifies policies leading towards the eventually disappearence of Germans as a distinct ethnic group. It goes without saying, then, that it is unacceptable for similar policies to be applied to related ethnic groups who actively fought against Nazi Germany or resisted German occupation. Punishing the Germans for their fathers' crimes is wrong. Punishing Anglos for the crimes of the Germans' fathers is far worse."

    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    A well educated person from rural Australia should know what “Final Solution” means, but people should know a lot of stuff that they don’t actually know, because the average person is kind of dumb and wasn’t paying attention in class they day they taught this stuff, because he felt (rightly) that this had nothing to do with him. This makes this guy dumb and not malicious.
     
    Isn't the problem here that the list of things that should not be said piles up and is used against only one side?

    For instance, if a tranny Asian Australian MP stood up and proposed a "Final Solution" to white bigotry and racism, do you really think it'd be a story with international coverage?

    If Richard Trumka used the term "America First" in a speech with regard to a pro-Union position on trade or labor, do you think we'd ever hear about it, or hear about the "dark history" of "America First?"
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  122. Simon says:
    @Jack D
    This reminds me of the NPR interview a couple of weeks ago with the guy who was leading the massive (20 person) Nazi rally in Washington. He mentioned that on average, Asians have a higher IQ than whites who have a higher IQ than blacks. The interviewer didn't challenge him directly on this (because she couldn't, since it is true) but instead asked him something like, "How does this help to unite us?"

    The standard for journalism today is, is this story damaging or helpful to the CotF? If it is helpful - let's say some rural legislator has used the words "final solution" because he wants a solution that is final but is too dumb to know that phrase is on the Index Prohibitorum, then you pound the hell out of it, even if the story is halfway around the world. If it is not helpful, say it involves "African gangs" terrorizing the citizens of that country, then crickets. Or as Iowahawk says, "Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow."

    We even have a name for such things. We call them "hatefacts". A hatefact is something that is true but is wrong to bring up because it damages the CotF. Say you are a college educated white female - it's no good to remind you that you are in danger of being raped and murdered by your brown and black brothers in the CotF. You should never do things like comparing the rate of black on white rape vs. white on black. It's much better to displace your fear and anxiety on imaginary white rapists and sexual harassers.

    CotF?

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    Coalition of the Fringes.

    It took me a second or two, but I read most of iSteve. I'm pretty bad with the acronyms. "HBD" took me about a year to figure out, so don't feel bad!


    Oh, and Jack D. - that was another great comment (the one that Simon here replied to).

    , @Joe Joe
    Coalition of the Fringes
    , @Harry Baldwin
    That was my reaction until I gave it a few minutes thought. It would be considerate of commenters not to use abbreviations without spelling it out the first time. I saw one here the other day I never could figure out and Google was no help.
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  123. @Achmed E. Newman
    Man, it's getting to be where you'd better go see the world really soon or there will be no point. It's not just the castles in Germany, cafes in France, ruins and cathedrals in Italy, strange flora and fauna Downunder, etc. It's the people and cultures that lots of us have gone and partaken of that made trips overseas special.

    Why leave the suburbs of Detroit or Chicago to go to any of these places if it's gonna feel like you are downtown, where you don't go much .... for a damn good reason?

    Do they have "refugees" in the Galapagos Islands, does anyone know? Maybe that's where we'll go. It's all turtles nowadays anyway. It's turtles all the way down.

    As soon as the last boatload of rapefugees leaves Somalia, we can turn Mogadishu into a sanctuary city for the civil to escape to. The magic dirt in Europe (and in Lewiston, Maine https://www.google.com/search?q=lewiston+muslim+murder&oq=lewiston+muslim+murder&aqs=chrome..69i57.7952j1j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8) will undoubtedly act as an alembic to transmute the rampaging herd to modernity, and the barren dirt of Africa will starve us white devils. Justice at last!

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  124. @Jack D
    This reminds me of the NPR interview a couple of weeks ago with the guy who was leading the massive (20 person) Nazi rally in Washington. He mentioned that on average, Asians have a higher IQ than whites who have a higher IQ than blacks. The interviewer didn't challenge him directly on this (because she couldn't, since it is true) but instead asked him something like, "How does this help to unite us?"

    The standard for journalism today is, is this story damaging or helpful to the CotF? If it is helpful - let's say some rural legislator has used the words "final solution" because he wants a solution that is final but is too dumb to know that phrase is on the Index Prohibitorum, then you pound the hell out of it, even if the story is halfway around the world. If it is not helpful, say it involves "African gangs" terrorizing the citizens of that country, then crickets. Or as Iowahawk says, "Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow."

    We even have a name for such things. We call them "hatefacts". A hatefact is something that is true but is wrong to bring up because it damages the CotF. Say you are a college educated white female - it's no good to remind you that you are in danger of being raped and murdered by your brown and black brothers in the CotF. You should never do things like comparing the rate of black on white rape vs. white on black. It's much better to displace your fear and anxiety on imaginary white rapists and sexual harassers.

    It’s much better to displace your fear and anxiety on imaginary white rapists and sexual harassers.

    Plus, it has the massive benefit of preventing the epidemic of crime from ever stopping. This guarantees the legions of useless cops and “federal law enforcement” permanent sinecures. That fewer than half the Nation’s rapes and murders are ever solved and criminals punished is a feature, not a bug. And we have a word for this too (thanks Sam Francis!): Anarcho-Tyranny

    By keeping us (particularly women) permanently frightened of rape by imaginary rapists while protecting the real rapists, we are more frightened of what might happen without Big Brother than we are of Big Brother (or his negro little “brothers”) himself. It is crimethink to ask why the majority of heinous crimes aren’t solved while cops bugger one another on duty, eat donuts, and punish us for evils like driving too fast or watering our lawns on the wrong days. It’s crimethink to ask who is really doing the raping and murdering. All of it is by design comrade. Nobody ever tries to work himself out of a paycheck. Crime does pay, but mostly to the useless worms paid to prevent it.

    This is why no government employee (or anybody who receives more in government money than he pays in taxes) should ever be allowed to vote.

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  125. @Alec Leamas
    Forgive my lack of credulity, but I'm not enthusiastic to believe that "the data" are accurate when the ruling class and its bureaucratic arm so assiduously resist efforts to count the number of illegal aliens resident in the United States and/or to identify them, and refuse to cooperate with the Federal government when requested to remove illegal alien criminals.

    the ruling class and its bureaucratic arm so assiduously resist efforts to count the number of illegal aliens resident

    Oh they’re eager to count them all right, that count determines political power in the House and apportionment of your tax dollars in spending.

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  126. The Z Blog says: • Website

    OT: An ISteve favorite. Latins bleaching themselves. http://archive.is/vyKhS

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  127. AndrewR says:
    @Jack D
    A well educated person from rural Australia should know what "Final Solution" means, but people should know a lot of stuff that they don't actually know, because the average person is kind of dumb and wasn't paying attention in class they day they taught this stuff, because he felt (rightly) that this had nothing to do with him. This makes this guy dumb and not malicious.

    I wouldn’t call him malicious or dumb. No one criticizing him for saying “final solution” is doing it in good faith. It’s pure cynicism exploiting the sacred status of Jews in Australia.

    On a related note, Holocaust denial, whether factually sound or not, does more harm than good to opponents of Hebrew Supremacy. I think a winning message is “Nothing that the Nazis did, or could have done, justifies policies leading towards the eventually disappearence of Germans as a distinct ethnic group. It goes without saying, then, that it is unacceptable for similar policies to be applied to related ethnic groups who actively fought against Nazi Germany or resisted German occupation. Punishing the Germans for their fathers’ crimes is wrong. Punishing Anglos for the crimes of the Germans’ fathers is far worse.”

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  128. @Jack D
    A well educated person from rural Australia should know what "Final Solution" means, but people should know a lot of stuff that they don't actually know, because the average person is kind of dumb and wasn't paying attention in class they day they taught this stuff, because he felt (rightly) that this had nothing to do with him. This makes this guy dumb and not malicious.

    A well educated person from rural Australia should know what “Final Solution” means, but people should know a lot of stuff that they don’t actually know, because the average person is kind of dumb and wasn’t paying attention in class they day they taught this stuff, because he felt (rightly) that this had nothing to do with him. This makes this guy dumb and not malicious.

    Isn’t the problem here that the list of things that should not be said piles up and is used against only one side?

    For instance, if a tranny Asian Australian MP stood up and proposed a “Final Solution” to white bigotry and racism, do you really think it’d be a story with international coverage?

    If Richard Trumka used the term “America First” in a speech with regard to a pro-Union position on trade or labor, do you think we’d ever hear about it, or hear about the “dark history” of “America First?”

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  129. Simon says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    Yet another notable Cavanaugh!

    We were discussing David Lynch on the previous thread. Well, Julian Sands as "Nick Cavanaugh" was the sadistic doctor who amputated much of Sherilynn Fenn to keep her at home in daughter Jennifer Lynch's debut.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cb/FennBoxingHelena.jpg

    Though from the description, it appears that Fenn's character is the real sadist, tearing him down verbally throughout her ordeal. Feminists savaged the film, but it sounds weirdly empowering to me.

    The story wasn't originally Jennifer's idea, but she was born with clubbed feet and, well, decided to run with it.

    The Chinese wait till the child is born to bind her feet, but the Lynches have the foresight to plan ahead.

    Jennifer Lynch went on to make an extremely creepy movie, Surveillance, on what appears to be a favorite subject of hers, serial killers. Every character in it is thoroughly unpleasant, as is the movie itself — bloody but also curiously smirky. I wish David Lych hadn’t attached his name to it as executive producer, but I guess that’s what one does for one’s daughter.

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    From an interview with Vice Magazine:

    After so many years of being away from filmmaking, how did you get the opportunity to make Surveillance?

    Such a long story. The quick version is that I had been producing short films and doing a lot of writing and had a great writer’s group with a bunch of friends and I was looking to get back to doing stuff. One of the guys in my group asked me to read this script he’d written, so I asked him, “Do you want me to read this as a friend or as a writer?” He said “Both.” It was a script about witches and it had some interesting ideas in it, but I had some notes, which pissed him off a little bit. I got the response, “So what would you fucking do with it?” So I said, “Well, I’d do this” and so I wrote Surveillance. People really liked the script but I wasn’t getting anywhere with it. Then one night my father called me and said “You’re the sickest bitch I know! You can’t end it this way.” And I said “Sure I can.” But it was at his beseeching that I wrote an alternate ending, which I shot but knew I would never keep in the film. He called a few months later and asked me “So what the hell is going on with your movie?” I said, “Zilch. I don’t know if it’s because it’s been 15 years or the subject matter or what, but people are scared.” And he said, “Alright, well, you’ll probably say ‘No’ to this, but what do you think would happen if I put my name on as executive producer?” And I said, “No fucking way. You don’t think I get enough shit for being your daughter in the first place?” But he said, “I really like this movie and I want to see it get made. We’ll do an experiment. We’ll put my name on the cover as an executive producer and we’ll just see what happens.” Within 24 hours, I had offers. It was the most disgusting but amazing thing ever. It’s ridiculous how suddenly legitimizing a name like that can be. So I went and made the film, went back and showed it to him, asked if I could use a song, he said “Yes,” and thus was born Surveillance.
     
    , @Reg Cæsar

    I wish David Lynch hadn’t attached his name to it as executive producer, but I guess that’s what one does for one’s daughter.
     
    David Lynch knows he has no business calling anyone else's work "creepy". He did call his daughter's work "sick" (see CJ's comment), but really... Twisted runs in the family.
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  130. peterike says:
    @Corvinus
    What does law enforcement say?

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jan/03/is-melbourne-in-the-grip-of-african-gangs-the-facts-behind-the-lurid-headlines

    An Australian official had made the claim that people in Melbourne are “scared to go out to restaurants in the nighttime.” Yet...

    https://twitter.com/timpallas/status/951312749878849536/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E951312749878849536&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fentry%2Fafrican-gang-australia_us_5a581026e4b04df054f77f7e

    What about Victorian crime statistics? Well, robbery figures rose 12 percent in the last two years, but there is a reduction in property damage, burglary and theft.

    https://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au/crime-statistics/latest-crime-data/recorded-criminal-incidents

    This source reports that "[F]igures from Victoria's Crime Statistics Agency show that Victorians born in Sudan were responsible for just 0.1 per cent of all crimes committed in 2017. 'The statistics absolutely do not support that we have a gang problem in Victoria, the statistics do not support that we have increasing crime in Victoria and the statistics show overwhelmingly that the largest number of offenders in Victoria are Australian born,' said Dr Rebecca Wickes, a senior lecturer in criminology at Monash University."

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/what-s-behind-the-african-gangs-fallout

    And here is a psychologist who offers background and context.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/prevention-now/201802/are-african-youth-gangs-in-australia-real-threat

    Sailer’s first law of NOTICING THE UNNOTICED–The media, mainstream or alternative, furnishes us with convenient concepts that make it easier to remember the facts they prefer you to know and harder to remember the facts that undermine the concepts.

    What about Victorian crime statistics? Well, robbery figures rose 12 percent in the last two years, but there is a reduction in property damage, burglary and theft.

    Yeah, because government bureaucracies committed 100% to multi-culturalism would never do anything as gauche as fiddle with crime statistics. Just like they would never, say, fiddle with children’s test scores to show better results.

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  131. peterike says:
    @Corvinus
    And here is a more recent study in conjunction to the related matter.

    "Immigration-crime research over the past 20 years has widely corroborated the conclusions of a number of early 20th-century presidential commissions that found no backing for the immigration-crime connection. Although there are always individual exceptions, the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans."

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/immigrants-do-not-increase-crime-research-shows/

    “Although there are always individual exceptions, the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans.”

    LOL! That’s because they get compared to American blacks, whose rate of crime is so astronomically higher than everyone else’s, that even criminal Mestizos pale in comparison.

    Let me know when somebody does a study on immigrant crime rates vs. those of legacy white Americans. And besides, as we’ve often seen shown around here, 2nd and 3rd generation immigrant crime and dysfunction goes up.

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    "Let me know when somebody does a study on immigrant crime rates vs. those of legacy white Americans."

    Actually, one of my links offered insight into this phenomenon. You must have missed it.

    "Yeah, because government bureaucracies committed 100% to multi-culturalism would never do anything as gauche as fiddle with crime statistics."

    You're going to have to better than make that same, tired argument, Cochise.
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  132. Anon[378] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Why didn’t the Mafia use this line of reasoning?

    Let’s not talk of organized crime.

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  133. @Wilkey
    "Man, it’s getting to be where you’d better go see the world really soon or there will be no point. It’s not just the castles in Germany, cafes in France, ruins and cathedrals in Italy, strange flora and fauna Downunder, etc. It’s the people and cultures that lots of us have gone and partaken of that made trips overseas special."

    The sad truth of it is that you're right. What it really reminds me of is that scene in Dances With Wolves where Kevin Costner's character is asked why he wants to be posted to the frontier. "I want to see it before it's gone," he says. The drunkard carting him there looks at Costner like he's an idiot. How can something as vast as "the frontier" ever disappear? Costner and his movie audience know better. The movie audience knows it thanks to hindsight, but Costner's character can see it coming. It's happening to Europe (and America) and we all know it. Some day far too soon nearly everything that makes Europe truly unique will be gone. It took about 300 years from the discovery of Columbus til whites outnumbered natives in the New World. Third Worlders will outpopulate whites in their native countries in less than a third of that time. People in the future will marvel at how rapidly it all happened, and how idiotic the natives were at giving their country away in the name of a stupid, inane, untested political dogma.

    “I want to see it before it’s gone,”

    Exactly what Frederic Remington said was his reason for painting the Old West.

    By the way, if you’re ever up near Ogdensburg, New York, (along the St. Lawrence) there’s a fine Remington museum there worth visiting.

    (I was always struck by the impressionist use of color by Remington, something he is not given credit for by his detractors who call him a Realist)

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  134. @Corvinus
    What does law enforcement say?

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jan/03/is-melbourne-in-the-grip-of-african-gangs-the-facts-behind-the-lurid-headlines

    An Australian official had made the claim that people in Melbourne are “scared to go out to restaurants in the nighttime.” Yet...

    https://twitter.com/timpallas/status/951312749878849536/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E951312749878849536&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fentry%2Fafrican-gang-australia_us_5a581026e4b04df054f77f7e

    What about Victorian crime statistics? Well, robbery figures rose 12 percent in the last two years, but there is a reduction in property damage, burglary and theft.

    https://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au/crime-statistics/latest-crime-data/recorded-criminal-incidents

    This source reports that "[F]igures from Victoria's Crime Statistics Agency show that Victorians born in Sudan were responsible for just 0.1 per cent of all crimes committed in 2017. 'The statistics absolutely do not support that we have a gang problem in Victoria, the statistics do not support that we have increasing crime in Victoria and the statistics show overwhelmingly that the largest number of offenders in Victoria are Australian born,' said Dr Rebecca Wickes, a senior lecturer in criminology at Monash University."

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/what-s-behind-the-african-gangs-fallout

    And here is a psychologist who offers background and context.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/prevention-now/201802/are-african-youth-gangs-in-australia-real-threat

    Sailer’s first law of NOTICING THE UNNOTICED–The media, mainstream or alternative, furnishes us with convenient concepts that make it easier to remember the facts they prefer you to know and harder to remember the facts that undermine the concepts.

    So, property crime down a bit, but robbery up 12% in two years, eh. Robbery is way more likely to result in assaults and murders, and other opportunistic crimes against persons like say rape as the perpetrator and the victim are face to face, and the perpetrator is going to be threatening to use violence to enforce compliance, common means of doing so being by flourishing a blunt instrument, and edged weapon, or perhaps a firearm. Given that understanding, such a sharp increase in robbery is a really worrying thing, no?

    But Corvinus instead gaslights the froggies, telling them that, hey, you must be mistaken about the temperature of the water in the pot in which you sit, namely your community. Anyway, what are the chances that a face to face encounter with a thug will happen to you, or that the situation will escalate so that you or someone you care about will be injured, raped, or killed? It’s only a 12% increase in the chances over a two year period, so feel no fret, mon.

    But the thought might occur that perhaps property crime doesn’t pay nearly so well as robbery, and that the two diverging trends are at root connected? Nah, barely credible, amiright?

    ‘Cuz the media would never gaslight us by downplaying the significance of a rising threat perception by the people who actually live in the community and deal with the on the ground reality of hostile, unassimilating aliens in their midst that, oh I don’t know, might inform their sense of threat? No, those people at the Guardian are not to a man jack of them ideologically-blinkered leftists whose jobs – merely incidentally – depend on them never wavering from The Party Line. Of this, I am quite certain.

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    "But Corvinus instead gaslights the froggies, telling them that, hey, you must be mistaken about the temperature of the water in the pot in which you sit, namely your community."

    No "gas lighting" on my part, just providing "hate facts".
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  135. @International Jew

    “He’s smart, but he hasn’t read all the history books,” Mr Katter told reporters.
     
    I listened to most of his speech. Anning seems like an unpretentious salt-of-the-earth kind of guy who just wants his country back. I doubt he thinks about Jewish history much and in any case I've heard plenty of people say "final solution" innocently and innocuously, with no intention to refer to the holocaust.

    If I lived in Australia, I'd consider Anning's less than exquisite sensitivity to linguistic nuance far less relevant for my safety and well-being, than his solid grasp of the meaning of Muslim immigration in the here and now.

    His idea of a “final solution” is a popular vote.

    Has anybody noticed this is a little different from suggesting that the final solution is Auschwitz?

    Or are we not allowed to see the difference, because words are magic?

    We must have Conversations, as long as we don’t have Talks and Words.

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  136. Off topic–did anyone notice that the NYT and the Atlantic are both running editorials on the importance of the free press? I thought from the headline it would be about how deplatforming is a threat to the free press in the era of distribution monopolies, insofar as ‘the free press’ represents the free distribution of ideas.

    Nope! It was about how Donald Trump is bad. Apparently by ‘freedom of the press’ they mean ‘freedom of people who own the presses to be immune from criticism.’ You see it’s all about the owning, not about the writing. The writing part is bad sometimes. The owning part is always good.

    At some point I expect they will redefine freedom of the press to be restricted to the operation of actual physical printing presses only. I mean there’s nothing about the internet in the constitution, amirite!?

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    It is also in today's Philadelphia Inquirer, too. Haven't read it yet, but I rather suspected that it would be just as you characterized it. So it is a coordinated assault, likely worked out to coincide with the Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube deplatforming of alternative views to The Narrative.

    So it's war to the knife.
    , @Jack D
    It's not just those two. There is some kind of national campaign going on where they are publishing these editorials in newspapers all across the country on the same day. It's more and more obvious that the mainstream press is the propaganda arm of the "Resistance".

    Of course this suits their political biases but I think it also is connected to changing economics. We see this also on TV also with the late night TV shows and with retailers. Once upon a time TV networks and newspapers were like department stores that catered to everyone, especially the vast middle class that was more or less evenly divided between the parties. And this was a profitable business model. Paley and Ochs and Graham might have been liberal Democrats but they were not going to put politics ahead of the business model that made them wealthy.

    But the mass market has been shattered by the internet and by the political and economic stratification of our society. So being everything to everyone means being nothing to anyone (see Sears). The only path forward that they can see is to find a profitable niche and a partisan niche is good when you no longer have a profit making business model. People have strong political loyalties that they are willing to back with contributions (some newspapers now solicit donations so Steve was ahead of the times as usual). The surviving daily newspaper in Philadelphia (and other cities) has been reorganized as a non-profit foundation. Getting 1 giant donation from a really rich guy who agrees with your politics is even better than having to beg for individual contributions. Better to jump onto a much smaller lifeboat than to go down with the ship.
    , @Anonymous
    Well, every single day neocon outlet WaPo admonishes us that "Democracy dies in Darkness", like a particular creepy foreshadowing. Only an evil cackling by Hyatt is missing.

    Anyway what about Democrats publicly supporting their old TLA amigos after cantankerous TV personality Brennan got his license to move about revoked?

    It's Lovecraftian.

    The unrest and menace of this evening had been the deciding factor, and just about midnight a raiding party recruited from three stations descended upon Parker Place and its environs. Doors were battered in, stragglers arrested, and candlelighted rooms forced to disgorge unbelievable throngs of mixed foreigners in figured robes, mitres, and other inexplicable devices. Much was lost in the melee, for objects were thrown hastily down unexpected shafts, and betraying odours deadened by the sudden kindling of pungent incense. But spattered blood was everywhere, and Malone shuddered whenever he saw a brazier or altar from which the smoke was still rising.
     
    Yep, that guy must have come across a Democratic Convention.
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    At some point I expect they will redefine freedom of the press to be restricted to the operation of actual physical printing presses only. I mean there’s nothing about the internet in the constitution, amirite!?
     
    I propose this line of argument usually in response to arguments that the Second Amendment protects only muzzle-loading single shot smooth bore rifles (they say "musket" or whatever).

    When the First Amendment was ratified, the "Press" operated hand-cranked movable lead block type presses, and this is all you shall have under the Constitution. Congress could seize the New York Times's automated presses tomorrow and not violate a single letter of the Constitution, right? (Setting aside the Fifth Amendment takings clause which they don't know about anyway).
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  137. peterike says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Knowing what you must know, as a reader of this blog, about the extraordinarily high per capita rates of crime committed by people of African descent everywhere from Australia to Brazil to Europe to the U.S., what’s your best argument for why countries ought to welcome large numbers of African immigrants?

    https://twitter.com/harmlessyarddog/status/1012392761046306818?s=21

    Knowing what you must know, as a reader of this blog, about the extraordinarily high per capita rates of crime committed by people of African descent everywhere from Australia to Brazil to Europe to the U.S.,

    Dave, how can you be so insensitive! Why, just glance through these most wanted pics from New York City. I mean, there’s at least one white woman in the mix!

    https://crimestoppers.nypdonline.org/(X(1)S(ukpacv3isnir2w4wmi4hmoma))/?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1#/wanted

    Sorry, don’t know how to make that link work. Cut and paste!

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    Is this the link you wanted?

    https://crimestoppers.nypdonline.org/#/wanted

    I can't find any white people on it at all.
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  138. A well educated person from rural Australia should know what “Final Solution” means, but people should know a lot of stuff that they don’t actually know, because the average person is kind of dumb and wasn’t paying attention in class they day they taught this stuff, because he felt (rightly) that this had nothing to do with him. This makes this guy dumb and not malicious.

    That the Nazis attempted to exterminate the Jews and indeed murdered a lot of them is an important piece of WWII history. And agree that an educated American today would get “final solution” just from exposure. But there are freight cars full of history educated people actually should have a grip on that come well before worrying about particular terminology that Nazis used. (Which was in German anyway.)

    Trademarking a not too common noun for “the Holocaust” is reasonable. Trademarking a very common adjective and very common noun which naturally fit together and asking everyone to leap back in horror when someone uses them is a bit much.

    Putting in that drain line was the final solution to water pooling in the driveway.

    The final solution to messing with staining my deck–going to rip that bitch out and go with the concrete pavers.**

    (**Actually, i’m using the multitool to cut out the bad sections, cleaning and restaining yet again. But i’ve told my kids–”don’t build a cedar deck” A generational “final solution”.)

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    A long-term solution to your deck problems short of tearing it out entirely (I wouldn't say final but just because nothing last forever) is to replace the decking with Trex or similar plastic lumber. Maybe this doesn't have the warmth and beauty of real wood but it won't rot or give you splinters or require restaining.

    If your deck is so low to the ground that you can replace it with pavers, they why did you build a deck in the 1st place? Since it's done already, one thought would be to shrink the size of the deck and turn part of it into full width (or at least wide) steps leading down to a patio. "Multi-level" is very in. You could salvage the less rotten decking material and use that as a source of future matching pieces for the remaining part.
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  139. With Victorians set to head to the polls later this year, City of Whittlesea Mayor Kris Pavlidis accused politicians returning to the “African gang” rhetoric of turning the rift into an election issue.

    Maybe City of Whittlesea Mayor Kris Pavlidis — who I assume is of Greek ancestry — was thinking about the Battle of Rorke’s Drift when he was bellyaching and complaining about a so-called “rift” involving African criminal gangs being turned into an election issue.

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  140. J1234 says:

    African-Australian leaders in Victoria have said the “gang” rhetoric is an example of fear-mongering and has vilified their community to the point some now feel unwelcome in the state

    Wow. Black crime and discrimination based on black crime. I thought those problems only happened in countries with a history of slavery and Jim Crow.

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  141. Jack D says:
    @AnotherDad

    A well educated person from rural Australia should know what “Final Solution” means, but people should know a lot of stuff that they don’t actually know, because the average person is kind of dumb and wasn’t paying attention in class they day they taught this stuff, because he felt (rightly) that this had nothing to do with him. This makes this guy dumb and not malicious.
     
    That the Nazis attempted to exterminate the Jews and indeed murdered a lot of them is an important piece of WWII history. And agree that an educated American today would get "final solution" just from exposure. But there are freight cars full of history educated people actually should have a grip on that come well before worrying about particular terminology that Nazis used. (Which was in German anyway.)

    Trademarking a not too common noun for "the Holocaust" is reasonable. Trademarking a very common adjective and very common noun which naturally fit together and asking everyone to leap back in horror when someone uses them is a bit much.

    Putting in that drain line was the final solution to water pooling in the driveway.

    The final solution to messing with staining my deck--going to rip that bitch out and go with the concrete pavers.**

    (**Actually, i'm using the multitool to cut out the bad sections, cleaning and restaining yet again. But i've told my kids--"don't build a cedar deck" A generational "final solution".)

    A long-term solution to your deck problems short of tearing it out entirely (I wouldn’t say final but just because nothing last forever) is to replace the decking with Trex or similar plastic lumber. Maybe this doesn’t have the warmth and beauty of real wood but it won’t rot or give you splinters or require restaining.

    If your deck is so low to the ground that you can replace it with pavers, they why did you build a deck in the 1st place? Since it’s done already, one thought would be to shrink the size of the deck and turn part of it into full width (or at least wide) steps leading down to a patio. “Multi-level” is very in. You could salvage the less rotten decking material and use that as a source of future matching pieces for the remaining part.

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  142. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    And here is a more recent study in conjunction to the related matter.

    "Immigration-crime research over the past 20 years has widely corroborated the conclusions of a number of early 20th-century presidential commissions that found no backing for the immigration-crime connection. Although there are always individual exceptions, the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans."

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/immigrants-do-not-increase-crime-research-shows/

    The difference btw then and now, of course, is that then the govt/media/elite wasn’t arguing that “Not every immigrant is a crook” means that “No immigrant can be arrested, you racist.” E.g., New Mexico.

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  143. @Corvinus
    And here is a more recent study in conjunction to the related matter.

    "Immigration-crime research over the past 20 years has widely corroborated the conclusions of a number of early 20th-century presidential commissions that found no backing for the immigration-crime connection. Although there are always individual exceptions, the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans."

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/immigrants-do-not-increase-crime-research-shows/

    The US studies conflate skilled migrants with an estimate of the illegal immigrant population – skilled migrants who pass stringent testing for visas have a lower rate than the US average, while illegal immigrants have a higher rate – aggregating the two while undercounting illegal immigrants makes the “immigrant” category look below the US average.

    Australia’s skilled migration is relatively competently handled – see Anatoly Karlin’s breakdown of OECD PISA data showing that immigrants in the education system are not worse off than the Australian born students. “Not Sending Their Best”: World Map of IQ Drop Due to Immigration”

    The main problem Australia has with immigrant crime is humanitarian intake (refugees). Australian data comes from the Australian Bureau of Statistics study Prisoners in Australia, 2017 – prisoner incarceration rate varies massively by country of origin – many Asian countries with a lot of skilled immigrants (eg India) have less than half the average incarceration rate, while Vietnam and middle eastern refugee born countries are higher (Afghanistan) and the Sudan born refugees have ~6x the non-indigenous incarceration rate. The Australian indigenous incarceration rate is about 15x the non-indigenous average

    “Acts intended to cause injury was the most common offence for prisoners born in New Zealand and Sudan, representing 24% and 38% of these populations respectively.
    Illicit drug offences was the most common offence for prisoners born in Hong Kong (80%), Vietnam (72%), China (63%) and Malaysia (62%).”

    http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/[email protected]/DetailsPage/4517.02017?OpenDocument

    Table 22 PRISONERS, selected country of birth by state/territory
    Selected country of birth Imprisonment rate

    India 33.3
    Italy 40.4
    Sri Lanka 54.5
    Germany 55.3
    United Kingdom 59.3
    Philippines 59.6
    Korea, Republic of (South) 60.6
    Greece 62.0
    South Africa 62.5
    China 68.0
    Ireland 77.2
    Other 81.0
    United States of America 93.9
    Malaysia 101.1
    Taiwan (Province of China) 106.3
    Canada 124.0
    Thailand 136.7
    Hong Kong (SAR of China) 182.8
    Fiji 191.6
    Turkey 193.4
    Total 213.3
    New Zealand 224.8
    Iraq 247.1
    Afghanistan 247.8
    Iran 255.1
    Lebanon 258.7
    Australia 265.9
    Vietnam 399.6
    Samoa 418.5
    Tonga 475.1
    Somalia 700.8
    Sudan 997.8

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  144. Corvinus says:
    @Jim Bob Lassiter
    Well Corvinus, here's your opportunity for affordable living in beautitful, sunny Southern California:

    https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/bell-gardens/crime

    Don't forget to bring along wife and your 13 and 14 y/o daughters.

    Thanks for totally skirting the actual topic at hand and proving my point. A double whammy!

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  145. @Charles Pewitt
    OFF TOPIC

    Trump ought to go after that filthy FBI bastard Robert S. Mueller just like he went after that filthy CIA bastard John Brennan.

    Mueller and Brennan both push open borders mass immigration and nation-wrecking multiculturalism.

    Robert Mueller and John Brennan are two baby boomer treasonous rats from New York City.

    I don't give a damn if Mueller was born in 1944, that's close enough for me to call that no good bastard a baby boomer.

    NONE BUT AMERICANS TONIGHT -- General George Washington

    I do not consider Robert Mueller nor John Brennan to be Americans.

    Tweet from 2015:

    https://twitter.com/GoldmanSachs/status/662020715105935364

    … two baby boomer treasonous rats from New York City.

    I don’t give a damn if Mueller was born in 1944, that’s close enough for me to call that no good bastard a baby boomer.

    Making Boomerhood central to determining who makes it on your enemies list seems unhelpful. Two reasons:

    1) The policies Boomers push were planned out and put in motion by the generations preceding them, so their guiding ideology has deeper roots than one might think.

    2) The worst 68ers around now are in their teens and twenties. They’re the ones most violently enforcing the worldview of the stereotypical leftie Boomer. Second worst are the little Gen X epigones who managed to find employment under some Boomer mentor. Third worst are the actual Boomers themselves.

    The only politically active generation that still comes across as thoughtful and fair-minded are the Silent Generation and they’re fading away. They were lucky enough to become adult humans before the television era. Their sense of the society and politics is based on two-way dialogue and bargaining rather than just sitting in front of the Megaphone.

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  146. @Alec Leamas
    Forgive my lack of credulity, but I'm not enthusiastic to believe that "the data" are accurate when the ruling class and its bureaucratic arm so assiduously resist efforts to count the number of illegal aliens resident in the United States and/or to identify them, and refuse to cooperate with the Federal government when requested to remove illegal alien criminals.

    Alec,

    Corvinus is perfectly willing to advance whatever leftist-skewed reports and studies as The Gospel Truth, is impervious to the idea that their origins in the fever swamp of Cultural Marxism might limit our desire to attribute unquestioned validity to these ideologically-massaged pronouncements, and is constantly handing out assignments for everyone who responds skeptically to this codswallow to come up with contrary accounts (not that he would accept them were they to be produced). His posting strategy is like being hit with a string of SLAAP suits, suits often based on nothing but the desire to wear one down, and almost always with little to no basis in fact. That’s how he rolls. As with his link to the “Scientific” American article, just look at the picture at its head with the crowd’s signage basically stating the conclusions that will be reached in the article; i.e., nobody is illegal, immigrants without exception welcome, welcome, welcome. It is from the new, Trotskyite recension of SA, dating from 2017 if there is any doubt, and thoroughly imbued with TDS, so what would one expect, I mean seriously? Feh.

    But further to your point, in self-isolated, willfully unassimilating populations, the community standard is “snitches get stiches”, so even if there were some in those populations of illegal aliens who would be happy to see the criminals in their communities arrested and prosecuted, they fear the immediate danger of retaliation. This makes it extremely difficult for police and prosecutors to build cases. I see this all of the time in my nearest city, Philadelphia, where intimidation serves to squelch law enforcement efforts to protect not only the surrounding community, but also those within the illegal immigrant community.

    But the obvious conclusion, that if a whole community is comprised of people whose very first act in this country is to break the laws concerning immigration, that little better can be expected downstream regardless (or perhaps, because) of the puling and whining of their SJW advocates. You want to go head on at criminality? You uproot criminogenic environments. But no, the special pleading and hand wringing starts with the SJWs and never, ever stops.

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    Corvinus is perfectly willing to advance whatever leftist-skewed reports and studies as The Gospel Truth, is impervious to the idea that their origins in the fever swamp of Cultural Marxism might limit our desire to attribute unquestioned validity to these ideologically-massaged pronouncements, and is constantly handing out assignments for everyone who responds skeptically to this codswallow to come up with contrary accounts (not that he would accept them were they to be produced).
     
    Corvinus, like a few others on here, does not argue in good faith. He simply regurgitates nonsense or adds irrelevant or out-of-context links and as you said, then hands out homework assignments.

    Reading his drivel is a waste of your time. Add him to your "commenters to ignore" list and move on.
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  147. @SimpleSong
    Off topic--did anyone notice that the NYT and the Atlantic are both running editorials on the importance of the free press? I thought from the headline it would be about how deplatforming is a threat to the free press in the era of distribution monopolies, insofar as 'the free press' represents the free distribution of ideas.

    Nope! It was about how Donald Trump is bad. Apparently by 'freedom of the press' they mean 'freedom of people who own the presses to be immune from criticism.' You see it's all about the owning, not about the writing. The writing part is bad sometimes. The owning part is always good.

    At some point I expect they will redefine freedom of the press to be restricted to the operation of actual physical printing presses only. I mean there's nothing about the internet in the constitution, amirite!?

    It is also in today’s Philadelphia Inquirer, too. Haven’t read it yet, but I rather suspected that it would be just as you characterized it. So it is a coordinated assault, likely worked out to coincide with the Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube deplatforming of alternative views to The Narrative.

    So it’s war to the knife.

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  148. Jack D says:
    @SimpleSong
    Off topic--did anyone notice that the NYT and the Atlantic are both running editorials on the importance of the free press? I thought from the headline it would be about how deplatforming is a threat to the free press in the era of distribution monopolies, insofar as 'the free press' represents the free distribution of ideas.

    Nope! It was about how Donald Trump is bad. Apparently by 'freedom of the press' they mean 'freedom of people who own the presses to be immune from criticism.' You see it's all about the owning, not about the writing. The writing part is bad sometimes. The owning part is always good.

    At some point I expect they will redefine freedom of the press to be restricted to the operation of actual physical printing presses only. I mean there's nothing about the internet in the constitution, amirite!?

    It’s not just those two. There is some kind of national campaign going on where they are publishing these editorials in newspapers all across the country on the same day. It’s more and more obvious that the mainstream press is the propaganda arm of the “Resistance”.

    Of course this suits their political biases but I think it also is connected to changing economics. We see this also on TV also with the late night TV shows and with retailers. Once upon a time TV networks and newspapers were like department stores that catered to everyone, especially the vast middle class that was more or less evenly divided between the parties. And this was a profitable business model. Paley and Ochs and Graham might have been liberal Democrats but they were not going to put politics ahead of the business model that made them wealthy.

    But the mass market has been shattered by the internet and by the political and economic stratification of our society. So being everything to everyone means being nothing to anyone (see Sears). The only path forward that they can see is to find a profitable niche and a partisan niche is good when you no longer have a profit making business model. People have strong political loyalties that they are willing to back with contributions (some newspapers now solicit donations so Steve was ahead of the times as usual). The surviving daily newspaper in Philadelphia (and other cities) has been reorganized as a non-profit foundation. Getting 1 giant donation from a really rich guy who agrees with your politics is even better than having to beg for individual contributions. Better to jump onto a much smaller lifeboat than to go down with the ship.

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    They're so echo chambered that they do not understand
    1 - They were already constantly babbling about how Trump is The Devil. The effectiveness of this message must be hitting a ceiling now, or, y'know, a year and a half ago.
    2 - People hate them regardless of Trump and from before the Trump campaign. There's some dupes who are still operating on Walter Cronkite era rules but nobody looks at these people as noble. The meta media meme prior to this was Britney Spears and Lindsay al-Hakim Lohan joking about murdering paparazzi.
    3 - Massive media consolidation and every single media channel coordinating the same message is something even flyover hicks can notice. You turn the dial and catch the same song playing at the same time.
    4 - The same "rural retards" can also conceptualize free speech separately from the coordinated corporate media nudge of the moment. Nobody is buying the idea that CNN Time Warner is a victim of censorship. Furthermore, more and more normies are aware of our media's slavish worship of the Chinese government, especially on issues of access to information. Google in particular is doing everything it can to kill freedom of speech.
    5 - While they babble about free speech they are pursuing an unapologetic censorship campaign against alternative media, and the targets are the "respectable" ones.
    , @William Badwhite

    It’s not just those two. There is some kind of national campaign going on where they are publishing these editorials in newspapers all across the country on the same day.
     
    My understanding is that it was, if not coordinated, at least partially organized by the Boston Globe. 300+ newspapers (including such opinion leaders as the Pagosa Springs (Colorado) Sun, circulation about 4,000) ran a similar editorial today.

    The bloviating self-importance of the "press" has ceased being amusing. For most of newspaper history, newspapers were aligned with one political faction or the other. Nothing has changed, but somewhere in the 20th century - maybe a function of having only 3 TV stations or perhaps a relatively homogenous population - the mainstream media adopted this ridiculous stance that they are impartial oracles of wisdom with motives beyond question.

    There's nothing wrong with being an arm of the democratic party (CNN) or a mouthpiece for a greedy, self-interested billionaire (Bezos Post) but enough with the lying and pretending they're something else. This whole "civilization will collapse if we're not bowed to because we're the press" is absurd.

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  149. Corvinus says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    It is other than surprising people would take this approach by way of a red herring. Apparently, it’s a ton easier for you to hand wave and dismiss the sources I provided, rather than dig deep and investigate to what extent is the content truthful and accurate.

    Exactly why the meme “Fake News” is leading to a destructive course of action–an inability or an unwillingness to think intelligently on important matters.
     
    You're missing the point as is your wont. The conclusions derivative of "studies" discussed in your link propose only that crime rates are reduced in urban areas which receive a significant influx of immigrants. So, at best you're importing somewhat less criminally inclined Hispanics to displace the All Wold Felony All Stars to exurbs a la Compton.

    From personal experience and relationships with my cop relatives and others it's a known fact that "immigrant communities" are much harder to police, with specific factors such as language barriers, immigrants not trusting police, and cultures and codes of silence so that witnesses will not cooperate. It's a joke to pretend that "immigrant communities" themselves aren't glaring examples of Anarcho-tyranny.

    All of this aside, the academy and the government(s) simply lack credibility to view the issue straight on - I cited the fact that there are recalcitrant elements of the government itself dead set against any attempt at an official tally of resident illegal aliens or to identify criminal perpetrators as illegal aliens when they are, in fact, illegal aliens. Are you proposing that Los Angeles County is doing its due diligence in keeping track of which of its perpetrators are illegal aliens?

    Additionally, your links illegal aliens with all other immigrants going back to the 1970s in a purposeful attempt to mask rates of illegal alien crime - all so that after Mr. Trump speaks of the scourge and lawlessness of illegal entries and overstays you can say "Uh, studies show that immigrants are more law abiding, hurrdeedur!"

    Finally, I'll dig into your derivatives of "studies" when your side takes a sober look at the fact that the studies reveal that blacks aren't disproportionately killed by police, and admit that "Hands Up Don't Shoot" is predicated on a bald lie.

    “The conclusions derivative of “studies” discussed in your link propose only that crime rates are reduced in urban areas which receive a significant influx of immigrants.”

    Not “studies”, studies, which also looked at the surrounding environs where immigrants traverse.

    “From personal experience and relationships with my cop relatives and others it’s a known fact that “immigrant communities” are much harder to police, with specific factors such as language barriers, immigrants not trusting police, and cultures and codes of silence so that witnesses will not cooperate.”

    Would that be a “hate fact” you are touting?

    “It’s a joke to pretend that “immigrant communities” themselves aren’t glaring examples of Anarcho-tyranny.”

    The research, as well as the personal experiences of those living in those clearly states otherwise.

    “All of this aside, the academy and the government(s) simply lack credibility to view the issue straight on…”

    And now you are doubling down, SJW-style. You ASSUME these institutions lack credibility, thus any conclusions to the contrary of your narrative is dismissed. Instead, you must take an honest, forthright look into the data and challenge it with counter evidence. Mere hand waving makes you look foolish. And it is interesting that when the Alt Right cites specific research, it ought to be taken as the gospel.

    “I cited the fact that there are recalcitrant elements of the government itself dead set against any attempt at an official tally of resident illegal aliens or to identify criminal perpetrators as illegal aliens when they are, in fact, illegal aliens.”

    Again, that is red herring. Focus on the results of the studies.

    “Are you proposing that Los Angeles County is doing its due diligence in keeping track of which of its perpetrators are illegal aliens?”

    That would be a strawman on your part. But, since I’m a good sport, I will respond. I am of the notion that urban politicians, as well as business owners, neglect to adhere to the law. Which, and I have made this known time and time again, means those responsible should be prosecuted according to our statutes currently on the books.

    Additionally, your links illegal aliens with all other immigrants going back to the 1970s in a purposeful attempt to mask rates of illegal alien crime – all so that after Mr. Trump speaks of the scourge and lawlessness of illegal entries and overstays you can say “Uh, studies show that immigrants are more law abiding, hurrdeedur!”

    Finally, I’ll dig into your derivatives of “studies” when your side takes a sober look at the fact that the studies reveal that blacks aren’t disproportionately killed by police, and admit that “Hands Up Don’t Shoot” is predicated on a bald lie.

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    You really must learn to use the "blockquote" feature.

    And now you are doubling down, SJW-style. You ASSUME these institutions lack credibility, thus any conclusions to the contrary of your narrative is dismissed. Instead, you must take an honest, forthright look into the data and challenge it with counter evidence. Mere hand waving makes you look foolish. And it is interesting that when the Alt Right cites specific research, it ought to be taken as the gospel.
     
    No, not at all. I'm refusing to be sold a false bill of goods.

    I'll take "an honest, forthright look into the data" when there's a meaningful effort to collect some reliable data relevant to this issue. Since the academy and the very urban municipalities which are in the best position to collect the relevant data have announced themselves to be "sanctuaries" for criminal illegal aliens, you must forgive me for not taking their words for it.
    , @Daniel Williams
    Would you please start using the blockquote tag? I like catching your perspective, but these long posts are eyesores without it.
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  150. Corvinus says:
    @pyrrhus
    Lying with statistics no doubt. Southern European immigrants were heavily into violent anarchism and gang related crime, and were of lower intelligence due to the prevalence of cousin marriage. But maybe they weren't as violent as the black population...

    “Lying with statistics no doubt. Southern European immigrants were heavily into violent anarchism and gang related crime, and were of lower intelligence due to the prevalence of cousin marriage.”

    Then they should go back, right?

    “But maybe they weren’t as violent as the black population…”

    Maybe, huh.

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  151. @jewbanker
    As a true blue white aussie from Victoria i can say that we DO have a africian gang problem in Melbourne. the government and police will NOT admit it. They claim our crime is falling but have promised 3000 extra police, why oh why would you do that if crime was really falling??? The sudanese population might be only 0.1% of the total population for now but they make up 0.2% of the TOTAL prison population of the state. your premise is BS mate, just like everything i've read from you, did you find this site with the act.il app??? https://diversitymachtfrei.wordpress.com/2018/08/08/a-jewish-swarm-consciousness-israeli-app-orchestrates-interference-in-politics-across-the-world/ Here is a quote from a book by Bob Carr, who was also the Premier of New South Wales in Australia for years, writes:
    "In my series of extended essays entitled “The War on White Australia” I described how Jeωish activism was pivotal in ending the White Australia policy and initiating the mass non-White immigration that is rapidly transforming that nation. In addition, I showed how Jeωish activism was instrumental in establishing multiculturalism as the ideological and legislative basis for social policy in Australia. Recently I explored the Jeωish role in pushing for the enactment and extension of laws banning speech deemed contrary to their interests. Given the profound impact of Jeωish ethno-politics on the Australian nation, nobody will be surprised to learn that Jeωish influence also extends to the determination of Australia’s foreign policy."

    Those 8 mayors are traitors and deserve a traitors punishment. The only way forward for the white people of the world is to remove the jew, then remove the non whites. Abbos are cannibals and need to be put on reservations and left to their own devices. WHITE AUSTRALIA NOW!!!

    Heh

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  152. Corvinus says:
    @JerseyJeffersonian
    So, property crime down a bit, but robbery up 12% in two years, eh. Robbery is way more likely to result in assaults and murders, and other opportunistic crimes against persons like say rape as the perpetrator and the victim are face to face, and the perpetrator is going to be threatening to use violence to enforce compliance, common means of doing so being by flourishing a blunt instrument, and edged weapon, or perhaps a firearm. Given that understanding, such a sharp increase in robbery is a really worrying thing, no?

    But Corvinus instead gaslights the froggies, telling them that, hey, you must be mistaken about the temperature of the water in the pot in which you sit, namely your community. Anyway, what are the chances that a face to face encounter with a thug will happen to you, or that the situation will escalate so that you or someone you care about will be injured, raped, or killed? It's only a 12% increase in the chances over a two year period, so feel no fret, mon.

    But the thought might occur that perhaps property crime doesn't pay nearly so well as robbery, and that the two diverging trends are at root connected? Nah, barely credible, amiright?

    'Cuz the media would never gaslight us by downplaying the significance of a rising threat perception by the people who actually live in the community and deal with the on the ground reality of hostile, unassimilating aliens in their midst that, oh I don't know, might inform their sense of threat? No, those people at the Guardian are not to a man jack of them ideologically-blinkered leftists whose jobs - merely incidentally - depend on them never wavering from The Party Line. Of this, I am quite certain.

    “But Corvinus instead gaslights the froggies, telling them that, hey, you must be mistaken about the temperature of the water in the pot in which you sit, namely your community.”

    No “gas lighting” on my part, just providing “hate facts”.

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    No “gas lighting” on my part, just providing “hate facts”.
     
    No, dear fellow. In your case, they are "love facts"....direct from the Ministry of Truth....
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  153. Corvinus says:
    @peterike

    "Although there are always individual exceptions, the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans.”

     

    LOL! That's because they get compared to American blacks, whose rate of crime is so astronomically higher than everyone else's, that even criminal Mestizos pale in comparison.

    Let me know when somebody does a study on immigrant crime rates vs. those of legacy white Americans. And besides, as we've often seen shown around here, 2nd and 3rd generation immigrant crime and dysfunction goes up.

    “Let me know when somebody does a study on immigrant crime rates vs. those of legacy white Americans.”

    Actually, one of my links offered insight into this phenomenon. You must have missed it.

    “Yeah, because government bureaucracies committed 100% to multi-culturalism would never do anything as gauche as fiddle with crime statistics.”

    You’re going to have to better than make that same, tired argument, Cochise.

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    “Yeah, because government bureaucracies committed 100% to multi-culturalism would never do anything as gauche as fiddle with crime statistics.”

     

    You’re going to have to better than make that same, tired argument, Cochise.
     
    Has the FBI stopped counting Hispanics as "White" when they perpetrate crime and "Hispanic" when they're victims of crime yet? Or, have they done away with counting crime by race altogether?
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  154. Anonymous[142] • Disclaimer says:
    @SimpleSong
    Off topic--did anyone notice that the NYT and the Atlantic are both running editorials on the importance of the free press? I thought from the headline it would be about how deplatforming is a threat to the free press in the era of distribution monopolies, insofar as 'the free press' represents the free distribution of ideas.

    Nope! It was about how Donald Trump is bad. Apparently by 'freedom of the press' they mean 'freedom of people who own the presses to be immune from criticism.' You see it's all about the owning, not about the writing. The writing part is bad sometimes. The owning part is always good.

    At some point I expect they will redefine freedom of the press to be restricted to the operation of actual physical printing presses only. I mean there's nothing about the internet in the constitution, amirite!?

    Well, every single day neocon outlet WaPo admonishes us that “Democracy dies in Darkness”, like a particular creepy foreshadowing. Only an evil cackling by Hyatt is missing.

    Anyway what about Democrats publicly supporting their old TLA amigos after cantankerous TV personality Brennan got his license to move about revoked?

    It’s Lovecraftian.

    The unrest and menace of this evening had been the deciding factor, and just about midnight a raiding party recruited from three stations descended upon Parker Place and its environs. Doors were battered in, stragglers arrested, and candlelighted rooms forced to disgorge unbelievable throngs of mixed foreigners in figured robes, mitres, and other inexplicable devices. Much was lost in the melee, for objects were thrown hastily down unexpected shafts, and betraying odours deadened by the sudden kindling of pungent incense. But spattered blood was everywhere, and Malone shuddered whenever he saw a brazier or altar from which the smoke was still rising.

    Yep, that guy must have come across a Democratic Convention.

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  155. Corvinus says:
    @epochehusserl
    I would say first you need to show some work regarding your claim.
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    People dont have to prove what day of the week it is Corvinus. One of the main reasons that immigration was restricted from Italy was because of the the perceived criminality, whether they are right or wrong, the majority certainly has the right to restrict immigration for some reason or no reason at all.

    “People dont have to prove what day of the week it is Corvinus.”

    Except Dave made a statement and I called him out to offer proof. That’s how discourse works.

    “One of the main reasons that immigration was restricted from Italy was because of the the perceived criminality, whether they are right or wrong…”

    It actually matters if someone is accurate about the perception.

    “the majority certainly has the right to restrict immigration for some reason or no reason at all.”

    No, there has to be a reason. Otherwise, I agree.

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  156. Brutusale says:
    @Barnard
    OT: Woke ESPN on intergender pro wrestling. They want to know, does it empower women or promote domestic violence? With 170 fans at the event this reporter covered, this is obviously an important story.

    http://www.espn.com/espnw/feature/24364018/intergender-wrestling-equality-women-violence-them?addata=espn:frontpage

    I guess the Ebonic SPorts Network doesn’t remember the day when Chyna almost fractured Mick Foley’s skull with a cage door. Pro wrestling isn’t for the faint of heart, as Foley points out on his “Fake Wrestler” t-shirt.

    https://www.grailed.com/listings/3928647-vintage-99-wwf-wcw-wwe-mick-foley-fake-wrestler-t-shirt

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  157. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    “We stand together to say that we value the contribution of these residents, deeply appreciate the diversity of culture and experience they bring to our cities,” City of Moreland Mayor John Kavanagh said. …“

    What unique value do Africans bring to an established white society? Who exactly appreciates their diversity? As Steve points out, whites are physically afraid of Africans, and why not? Any encounter, even the most benign one, can result in humiliation, severe physical injury, or death. There are countless news stories and YouTube videos of whites who have been physically assaulted or killed by Africans for merely knocking on car windows, arguing over a parking space, or simply sitting too close in a crowded subway train. And blacks evince pack animal behavior so if one incapacitates a victim, others will join in the assault up to the point of murdering someone lying unconscious in the street. They are the pit bulls of the human breed. Nobody wants them around because they are dangerously unpredictable.

    White women want them around. Like they do pit bulls. Women need male dominance and violence like Madonna needed Sean Penn. The love of her life she says.

    If native men are not violent enough they will import it.

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    Like Madonna, who divorced Sean Penn after a short marriage, some white women have to learn the hard way, I suppose.
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  158. Corvinus says:
    @Hank Archer
    "[T]he literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans.”

    The question though, really should be, do immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than the least crime-prone subset of native-born Americans?

    America already has a subset within its population that is highly crime-prone. Is that the standard that current citizens should expect new residents of the country to exceed or would it be better if less crime-prone populations were accepted as new residents?

    “The question though, really should be, do immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than the least crime-prone subset of native-born Americans?”

    And why do you think this way? Are you not begging the question?

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  159. @Jack D
    Call it 40 and you have a deal. That's about the age that some of my friends' mothers got their degrees. Most of them got married around age 20 or so and maybe had a year or 2 of college but dropped out to get married, then had kids 1 thru 2 or 3 over the next 10 years and then when the youngest was old enough to fend for himself after school, went back to college. This still gave them enough time in the workforce to collect a teacher's pension after 20 years (most of them became school teachers).

    Now, these women could afford to do this because it was still possible in postwar America to buy a house on just your husband's salary. A starter house was $15 or $20k and there were VA loans where you had to put very little down. These were not grand houses - all 5 of you would have to share 1 bathroom and there was no central air-conditioning, and it was located someplace that had been a farm field or an orchard last week - but these are the same houses that go for $1 million + in Silicon Valley today.

    Don’t live in Silicon Valley.

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  160. Corvinus says:
    @notanon
    every police precinct in the western world which covers a high immigration area has a sergeant whose job is to downgrade crime reports...

    (this would be true even if there were no racial or ethnic differences in crime rates purely due to the different age/gender distribution i.e. larger percentage of young males)

    this is because for 30+ years promotion in the police has required enthusiastic endorsement of PC.

    “every police precinct in the western world which covers a high immigration area has a sergeant whose job is to downgrade crime reports…”

    Perhaps, then again, probably not.

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  161. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    Yet another notable Cavanaugh!

    We were discussing David Lynch on the previous thread. Well, Julian Sands as "Nick Cavanaugh" was the sadistic doctor who amputated much of Sherilynn Fenn to keep her at home in daughter Jennifer Lynch's debut.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cb/FennBoxingHelena.jpg

    Though from the description, it appears that Fenn's character is the real sadist, tearing him down verbally throughout her ordeal. Feminists savaged the film, but it sounds weirdly empowering to me.

    The story wasn't originally Jennifer's idea, but she was born with clubbed feet and, well, decided to run with it.

    The Chinese wait till the child is born to bind her feet, but the Lynches have the foresight to plan ahead.

    Sherilynn Fenn was quite the stunner in her younger days but nowadays she has really hit the wall. Recently I read that the peak age of desirability for women on online dating sites is 18 (it would probably be younger except for the law). It’s all downhill after that. No wonder so many older women are bitter.

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    "Recently I read that the peak age of desirability for women on online dating sites is 18 (it would probably be younger except for the law). It’s all downhill after that. "

    Let me guess, you got that information from Roissy. Pro tip --> The peak age of desirability for men and women is generally in their 20's, with both genders hitting a "wall" perhaps in their 30's, if various factors like diet, exercise, genetics, and other habits are taken into account. Although, men and women generally make their own determination as to what they personally believe is "desirable".
    Ask your significant other.
    , @Rosie

    Sherilynn Fenn was quite the stunner in her younger days but nowadays she has really hit the wall. Recently I read that the peak age of desirability for women on online dating sites is 18 (it would probably be younger except for the law). It’s all downhill after that. No wonder so many older women are bitter.
     
    How did they measure "desireability"? That's not consistent with prior research. It would stand to reason that men would be most attracted to women around the age where birth complications decline. Otherwise, men would have a tendency to kill off their mates by impregnating them before their bodies are ready for childbirth.

    https://www.medicaldaily.com/age-aint-nothing-number-all-men-looking-love-prefer-women-mid-20s-due-high-fertility-rate-305502
    , @L Woods
    Lol — look who was triggered like clockwork.
    , @benjaminl
    Some of this Real Talk is starting to percolate out of 'shady' websites into the broader discourse; for example. the Masculinist, a newsletter for Christian men, has in its most recent issue a very striking chart of attractiveness by age:


    https://www.urbanophile.com/masculinist/the-masculinist-archives/
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  162. OT

    *** STEVE ALERT *** STEVE ALERT ***

    Heard on KQED radio this morning:

    People are upset at the new statue going up at the site of William Shockley’s lab.

    Is it a statue of Shockley? No, it’s a statue of a silicon crystal.

    But Shockley had cooties. And believed in IQ. And besides, what have silicon and hi-IQ people and that damn lab ever done for Silicon Valley?

    TAKE THE SILICON OUT OF SILICON VALLEY! PURIFY ALL IMPURITY!

    Too early to find anything online besides this, but stay tuned.

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    Don't they call adding "impurity" to silicon "doping?" So diversity in silicon valley is merely "doping" for nerdy Whites and Asians.

    Shockley as I recall invented the Field Effect Transistor. Couldn't some artist be hired to create some supercool abstract art piece based on his FET patent?
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  163. CIA Government Worker John Brennan Carved Up The Electronic Intelligence Gathering Apparatus Of The United States Government To Spy On The Trump Campaign For Partisan Purposes.

    John Brennan And His Ilk Are Carving Up The Constitution Of The United States Just Like Treasonous Elements Carved Up The Democrat Party.

    John Brennan Is An Enemy Of The US Constitution And John Brennan Is An Enemy Of The American People.

    John Brennan Has Revealed The Rot And Corruption In The CIA.

    The CIA must Be Abolished. The CIA Is Full Of John Brennan Type Treasonites.

    Let The NSA And The Military Intelligence Outfits Handle Intelligence Duties For The American Empire.

    Thomas Nast Wasn’t Wrong And He Won’t Be The Last To Notice Something About The Nasty John Brennan Types.

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    The thing is, Charles, if ethnic European immigrants had faced no resistance whatsoever from the native Anglo population, that too would be used to justify our dispossession. That's not who we are!
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  164. @Corvinus
    "The conclusions derivative of “studies” discussed in your link propose only that crime rates are reduced in urban areas which receive a significant influx of immigrants."

    Not "studies", studies, which also looked at the surrounding environs where immigrants traverse.

    "From personal experience and relationships with my cop relatives and others it’s a known fact that “immigrant communities” are much harder to police, with specific factors such as language barriers, immigrants not trusting police, and cultures and codes of silence so that witnesses will not cooperate."

    Would that be a "hate fact" you are touting?

    "It’s a joke to pretend that “immigrant communities” themselves aren’t glaring examples of Anarcho-tyranny."

    The research, as well as the personal experiences of those living in those clearly states otherwise.

    "All of this aside, the academy and the government(s) simply lack credibility to view the issue straight on..."

    And now you are doubling down, SJW-style. You ASSUME these institutions lack credibility, thus any conclusions to the contrary of your narrative is dismissed. Instead, you must take an honest, forthright look into the data and challenge it with counter evidence. Mere hand waving makes you look foolish. And it is interesting that when the Alt Right cites specific research, it ought to be taken as the gospel.

    "I cited the fact that there are recalcitrant elements of the government itself dead set against any attempt at an official tally of resident illegal aliens or to identify criminal perpetrators as illegal aliens when they are, in fact, illegal aliens."

    Again, that is red herring. Focus on the results of the studies.

    "Are you proposing that Los Angeles County is doing its due diligence in keeping track of which of its perpetrators are illegal aliens?"

    That would be a strawman on your part. But, since I'm a good sport, I will respond. I am of the notion that urban politicians, as well as business owners, neglect to adhere to the law. Which, and I have made this known time and time again, means those responsible should be prosecuted according to our statutes currently on the books.

    Additionally, your links illegal aliens with all other immigrants going back to the 1970s in a purposeful attempt to mask rates of illegal alien crime – all so that after Mr. Trump speaks of the scourge and lawlessness of illegal entries and overstays you can say “Uh, studies show that immigrants are more law abiding, hurrdeedur!”

    Finally, I’ll dig into your derivatives of “studies” when your side takes a sober look at the fact that the studies reveal that blacks aren’t disproportionately killed by police, and admit that “Hands Up Don’t Shoot” is predicated on a bald lie.

    You really must learn to use the “blockquote” feature.

    And now you are doubling down, SJW-style. You ASSUME these institutions lack credibility, thus any conclusions to the contrary of your narrative is dismissed. Instead, you must take an honest, forthright look into the data and challenge it with counter evidence. Mere hand waving makes you look foolish. And it is interesting that when the Alt Right cites specific research, it ought to be taken as the gospel.

    No, not at all. I’m refusing to be sold a false bill of goods.

    I’ll take “an honest, forthright look into the data” when there’s a meaningful effort to collect some reliable data relevant to this issue. Since the academy and the very urban municipalities which are in the best position to collect the relevant data have announced themselves to be “sanctuaries” for criminal illegal aliens, you must forgive me for not taking their words for it.

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    "No, not at all. I’m refusing to be sold a false bill of goods."

    Assuming the research is a "false bill of goods". All you did, in Vox Dayian terms (one of the vaunted leaders of the Alt Right) is "disqualify, disqualify, disqualify".

    "I’ll take “an honest, forthright look into the data” when there’s a meaningful effort to collect some reliable data relevant to this issue. "

    Wow, you tripled down. Ralphie must have dared you again.

    "Since the academy and the very urban municipalities which are in the best position to collect the relevant data have announced themselves to be “sanctuaries” for criminal illegal aliens, you must forgive me for not taking their words for it."

    X does not lead to Y. City declares sanctuary city does not automatically lead to data collection being skewed. You have to demonstrate specifically how the researchers "cooked the books".
    , @res
    Corvinus invoking "honest and forthright" is one of the funniest things I have ever read here. Thanks for the laugh, Corvy.
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  165. anon[159] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ed
    Keep in mind as far as turning back immigration from the third world, Australia is a leader in the West. They went to battle with the UN, NGOs and activists on refugees and won. Their policy on refugees arriving by sea is one the EU should follow and is trying to follow, this far Arab countries on the Mediterranean aren’t willing to play ball though.

    I also believe Australia has banned refugees from the Sudan and Somalia. They’re also becoming pretty agressive about deporting South Sudanese criminals back to their country.

    Here’s the problem:
    Australia imports 290,000 migrants every year, into a Country of 25 million.
    Of those 290,000, 29,000 are refugees from Africa and Asia, who then have the Right to bring in hordes of family members, such as aged parents, who receive the Age Pension the moment they step off the plane.
    Over and above that are Asians on Work Visas who never go home, and Asian students who never go home. Students from Venezuela are recent additions to our Welfare Rolls too.

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  166. @SimpleSong
    Off topic--did anyone notice that the NYT and the Atlantic are both running editorials on the importance of the free press? I thought from the headline it would be about how deplatforming is a threat to the free press in the era of distribution monopolies, insofar as 'the free press' represents the free distribution of ideas.

    Nope! It was about how Donald Trump is bad. Apparently by 'freedom of the press' they mean 'freedom of people who own the presses to be immune from criticism.' You see it's all about the owning, not about the writing. The writing part is bad sometimes. The owning part is always good.

    At some point I expect they will redefine freedom of the press to be restricted to the operation of actual physical printing presses only. I mean there's nothing about the internet in the constitution, amirite!?

    At some point I expect they will redefine freedom of the press to be restricted to the operation of actual physical printing presses only. I mean there’s nothing about the internet in the constitution, amirite!?

    I propose this line of argument usually in response to arguments that the Second Amendment protects only muzzle-loading single shot smooth bore rifles (they say “musket” or whatever).

    When the First Amendment was ratified, the “Press” operated hand-cranked movable lead block type presses, and this is all you shall have under the Constitution. Congress could seize the New York Times’s automated presses tomorrow and not violate a single letter of the Constitution, right? (Setting aside the Fifth Amendment takings clause which they don’t know about anyway).

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  167. @International Jew

    Australian-African community leader Maker Mayek
     
    How come the expression there is "Australian-African", but here it's the other way around -- "African-American"? Is this one of those hemisphere/coriolis force things again?

    LOL too, and for more:

    Man, The Simpsons was hilarious back then. I have no idea about the last 15 years.

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  168. @DH13

    The essence of democracy is that elections shouldn’t decide anything.
     
    This was said in classic Saileresque sarcasm mode, but it is not a joke anymore under the so called "liberal democracies". It is true, and has been so since at least 1945, if not earlier.

    We just have liberal democracies that happen to make the same decisions, at the same moment and despite the public opinion of the particular country in question. No conspiracy or coordination, just sensible people coming to the same conclusions, often using identical words:


    In 2003, Stephen Harper and Australian Prime Minister John Howard deliver largely identical speeches urging their nations to join George W. Bush’s Coalition of the Willing to go to war with Iraq.

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  169. @Corvinus
    "Let me know when somebody does a study on immigrant crime rates vs. those of legacy white Americans."

    Actually, one of my links offered insight into this phenomenon. You must have missed it.

    "Yeah, because government bureaucracies committed 100% to multi-culturalism would never do anything as gauche as fiddle with crime statistics."

    You're going to have to better than make that same, tired argument, Cochise.

    “Yeah, because government bureaucracies committed 100% to multi-culturalism would never do anything as gauche as fiddle with crime statistics.”

    You’re going to have to better than make that same, tired argument, Cochise.

    Has the FBI stopped counting Hispanics as “White” when they perpetrate crime and “Hispanic” when they’re victims of crime yet? Or, have they done away with counting crime by race altogether?

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  170. @Tiny Duck
    Boo hoo

    Cry me a river

    No one cares about your stupid exclusionary civilization. The only reason you have these "wonderful" castles and catherdrals is because you STOLE FROM PEOPLE OF COLOR

    No one wants to look at pale pasty mayonnaise. The sooner we are gone the better

    We are going to create new and better more inclusive institutions and foundations

    I think we’ve just read the “Rude Tiny Duck”. Hopefully, regular, “Curteous Tiny Duck” will take back over the fowl body soon.

    Are you admitting, at least, T.D., that the white people invented mayonnaise? There’s that, then. Doesn’t it count for something? Please keep that invention in mind after you P.O.C.s put us in the camps. Oh, wait, you all don’t know how to make barb wire … OK, so much for that.

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  171. Corvinus says:
    @notanon

    the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans
     
    which native-born Americans?

    if
    type A Americans have a crime rate of 1
    type B Americans have a crime rate of 10
    immigrants C have a crime rate of 2
    then
    where's the benefit to type A Americans?

    all the pro-immigration research i've ever read has been built on deliberate mathematical deception like this.

    (actually there is a benefit for those type A Americans who live in cities with lots of type B Americans as if the immigrants replace the type B Americans then the city's crime rate will go down - on the other hand those type A Americans living outside the cities who receive the displaced type B Americans will see their local crime rate go up - hence "liberals" vs deplorables)

    so basically urban liberals support mass immigration cos it quietly ethnically cleanses the local black population in a way that doesn't trouble their conscience - as opposed to just fixing the black crime problem (which could easily be done but first they'd have to admit it's a problem and they can't do that until their moral masters - the media - admit it first)

    “all the pro-immigration research i’ve ever read has been built on deliberate mathematical deception like this.”

    No, what you have here is a confirmation bias, and anything that does not fit your worldview automatically becomes labeled as “deception”.

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    What you call confirmation bias is what other people call the truth.

    But no one expects you to know the difference.
    , @Rosie

    No, what you have here is a confirmation bias, and anything that does not fit your worldview automatically becomes labeled as “deception”.
     
    Has it ever occurred to you that it is actually you who have confirmation bias?
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  172. Corvinus says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    You really must learn to use the "blockquote" feature.

    And now you are doubling down, SJW-style. You ASSUME these institutions lack credibility, thus any conclusions to the contrary of your narrative is dismissed. Instead, you must take an honest, forthright look into the data and challenge it with counter evidence. Mere hand waving makes you look foolish. And it is interesting that when the Alt Right cites specific research, it ought to be taken as the gospel.
     
    No, not at all. I'm refusing to be sold a false bill of goods.

    I'll take "an honest, forthright look into the data" when there's a meaningful effort to collect some reliable data relevant to this issue. Since the academy and the very urban municipalities which are in the best position to collect the relevant data have announced themselves to be "sanctuaries" for criminal illegal aliens, you must forgive me for not taking their words for it.

    “No, not at all. I’m refusing to be sold a false bill of goods.”

    Assuming the research is a “false bill of goods”. All you did, in Vox Dayian terms (one of the vaunted leaders of the Alt Right) is “disqualify, disqualify, disqualify”.

    “I’ll take “an honest, forthright look into the data” when there’s a meaningful effort to collect some reliable data relevant to this issue. ”

    Wow, you tripled down. Ralphie must have dared you again.

    “Since the academy and the very urban municipalities which are in the best position to collect the relevant data have announced themselves to be “sanctuaries” for criminal illegal aliens, you must forgive me for not taking their words for it.”

    X does not lead to Y. City declares sanctuary city does not automatically lead to data collection being skewed. You have to demonstrate specifically how the researchers “cooked the books”.

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    X does not lead to Y. City declares sanctuary city does not automatically lead to data collection being skewed. You have to demonstrate specifically how the researchers “cooked the books”.
     
    There are no books. The books are forbidden to be accurately kept. The truth is ruthlessly repressed.

    Note how the various Sanctuary City policies are worded - they affirmatively forbid municipal law enforcement and corrections personnel from sharing information with the Federal Government on pain of employee discipline. This is dispositive as to the question of whether the Municipalities are committed to keeping accurate records and statistics with regard to the prevalence of illegal aliens and crime within their jurisdictions. The policies themselves are broad and unequivocal statements of motive, plan, and intent.

    There is, in the law, a concept of constructive knowledge and its evil twin, deliberate ignorance. Deliberate ignorance warrants a preclusive finding of intent to deceive.
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  173. Corvinus says:
    @Jack D
    Sherilynn Fenn was quite the stunner in her younger days but nowadays she has really hit the wall. Recently I read that the peak age of desirability for women on online dating sites is 18 (it would probably be younger except for the law). It's all downhill after that. No wonder so many older women are bitter.

    “Recently I read that the peak age of desirability for women on online dating sites is 18 (it would probably be younger except for the law). It’s all downhill after that. ”

    Let me guess, you got that information from Roissy. Pro tip –> The peak age of desirability for men and women is generally in their 20′s, with both genders hitting a “wall” perhaps in their 30′s, if various factors like diet, exercise, genetics, and other habits are taken into account. Although, men and women generally make their own determination as to what they personally believe is “desirable”.
    Ask your significant other.

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    Let me guess, you got that information from Roissy. Pro tip –> The peak age of desirability for men and women is generally in their 20′s, with both genders hitting a “wall” perhaps in their 30′s, if various factors like diet, exercise, genetics, and other habits are taken into account. Although, men and women generally make their own determination as to what they personally believe is “desirable”.
    Ask your significant other.
     
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/style/dating-apps-online-men-women-age.html
    , @Jack D
    Here is the study:

    http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/4/8/eaap9815.full.pdf

    There have been a number of stories about it in the popular press.

    https://metro.co.uk/2018/08/16/world-online-dating-women-peak-18-men-peak-50-7845823/

    I don't read Roissy.
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  174. @Rob McX
    All those online princes with bank accounts are Swedes using Nigerian proxy servers.

    LOL!

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  175. @Corvinus
    "The conclusions derivative of “studies” discussed in your link propose only that crime rates are reduced in urban areas which receive a significant influx of immigrants."

    Not "studies", studies, which also looked at the surrounding environs where immigrants traverse.

    "From personal experience and relationships with my cop relatives and others it’s a known fact that “immigrant communities” are much harder to police, with specific factors such as language barriers, immigrants not trusting police, and cultures and codes of silence so that witnesses will not cooperate."

    Would that be a "hate fact" you are touting?

    "It’s a joke to pretend that “immigrant communities” themselves aren’t glaring examples of Anarcho-tyranny."

    The research, as well as the personal experiences of those living in those clearly states otherwise.

    "All of this aside, the academy and the government(s) simply lack credibility to view the issue straight on..."

    And now you are doubling down, SJW-style. You ASSUME these institutions lack credibility, thus any conclusions to the contrary of your narrative is dismissed. Instead, you must take an honest, forthright look into the data and challenge it with counter evidence. Mere hand waving makes you look foolish. And it is interesting that when the Alt Right cites specific research, it ought to be taken as the gospel.

    "I cited the fact that there are recalcitrant elements of the government itself dead set against any attempt at an official tally of resident illegal aliens or to identify criminal perpetrators as illegal aliens when they are, in fact, illegal aliens."

    Again, that is red herring. Focus on the results of the studies.

    "Are you proposing that Los Angeles County is doing its due diligence in keeping track of which of its perpetrators are illegal aliens?"

    That would be a strawman on your part. But, since I'm a good sport, I will respond. I am of the notion that urban politicians, as well as business owners, neglect to adhere to the law. Which, and I have made this known time and time again, means those responsible should be prosecuted according to our statutes currently on the books.

    Additionally, your links illegal aliens with all other immigrants going back to the 1970s in a purposeful attempt to mask rates of illegal alien crime – all so that after Mr. Trump speaks of the scourge and lawlessness of illegal entries and overstays you can say “Uh, studies show that immigrants are more law abiding, hurrdeedur!”

    Finally, I’ll dig into your derivatives of “studies” when your side takes a sober look at the fact that the studies reveal that blacks aren’t disproportionately killed by police, and admit that “Hands Up Don’t Shoot” is predicated on a bald lie.

    Would you please start using the blockquote tag? I like catching your perspective, but these long posts are eyesores without it.

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  176. SMK says: • Website
    @Tiny Duck
    Boo hoo

    Cry me a river

    No one cares about your stupid exclusionary civilization. The only reason you have these "wonderful" castles and catherdrals is because you STOLE FROM PEOPLE OF COLOR

    No one wants to look at pale pasty mayonnaise. The sooner we are gone the better

    We are going to create new and better more inclusive institutions and foundations

    Is “tiny duck” a sobriquet for Al Sharpton? “New and better” like Detroit, Baltimore, St. Louis, Telford, Oxford, Rotherhan, Londonstan with it’s Pakistani Mayor, Muslim-black Sweden, ad nauseam.

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  177. J.Ross says: • Website

    OT Glenn Close talks about playing a tranny. In a movie. Snark to him who blurts it, keeping silent is like being a flower.
    OT Pennsylvania pedophile priests
    I hope normies are seeing how news really works separate from whether it’s true. Are we now going to do this one at a time for every city? Does anyone doubt that a lot of institutional Catholic abuse happened in New York and Chicago? Will we see a rabbi — oh wait they all fled to Israel.

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  178. @AndrewR
    Ridiculous. He meant it as in "to settle the immigration issue once and for all." Who can say he had ever even heard of the alleged German Endlösung? Not everyone has had your education.

    AGREED, Andrew.

    In “Even Down-Under – you can’t say anything.”, I pondered on whether this guy knew the term to begin with. Even if he did, it’s not freaking trademarked, for cryin’ out loud!

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  179. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Let’s not talk about this either. Let’s talk more about Beckys. Blackies are holy.

    https://nypost.com/2018/08/16/mugger-caught-on-camera-putting-woman-in-chokehold-slamming-her-to-the-ground/

    The news below sounds crazy… but maybe not. PC in the West is like witchcraft too. It has its voodoos and taboos.

    https://www.rt.com/news/435905-malawi-bbc-child-killings/

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  180. @Simon
    CotF?

    Coalition of the Fringes.

    It took me a second or two, but I read most of iSteve. I’m pretty bad with the acronyms. “HBD” took me about a year to figure out, so don’t feel bad!

    Oh, and Jack D. – that was another great comment (the one that Simon here replied to).

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  181. @Corvinus
    "No, not at all. I’m refusing to be sold a false bill of goods."

    Assuming the research is a "false bill of goods". All you did, in Vox Dayian terms (one of the vaunted leaders of the Alt Right) is "disqualify, disqualify, disqualify".

    "I’ll take “an honest, forthright look into the data” when there’s a meaningful effort to collect some reliable data relevant to this issue. "

    Wow, you tripled down. Ralphie must have dared you again.

    "Since the academy and the very urban municipalities which are in the best position to collect the relevant data have announced themselves to be “sanctuaries” for criminal illegal aliens, you must forgive me for not taking their words for it."

    X does not lead to Y. City declares sanctuary city does not automatically lead to data collection being skewed. You have to demonstrate specifically how the researchers "cooked the books".

    X does not lead to Y. City declares sanctuary city does not automatically lead to data collection being skewed. You have to demonstrate specifically how the researchers “cooked the books”.

    There are no books. The books are forbidden to be accurately kept. The truth is ruthlessly repressed.

    Note how the various Sanctuary City policies are worded – they affirmatively forbid municipal law enforcement and corrections personnel from sharing information with the Federal Government on pain of employee discipline. This is dispositive as to the question of whether the Municipalities are committed to keeping accurate records and statistics with regard to the prevalence of illegal aliens and crime within their jurisdictions. The policies themselves are broad and unequivocal statements of motive, plan, and intent.

    There is, in the law, a concept of constructive knowledge and its evil twin, deliberate ignorance. Deliberate ignorance warrants a preclusive finding of intent to deceive.

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    "There are no books. The books are forbidden to be accurately kept. The truth is ruthlessly repressed."

    Yes, there are books of records kept by law enforcement on this matter. The researchers used this material and other data. If you believe that communities are deliberately under- or over-reporting, then you have to prove it, rather than assume it.
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  182. bomag says:
    @Corvinus
    "all the pro-immigration research i’ve ever read has been built on deliberate mathematical deception like this."

    No, what you have here is a confirmation bias, and anything that does not fit your worldview automatically becomes labeled as "deception".

    What you call confirmation bias is what other people call the truth.

    But no one expects you to know the difference.

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  183. @down with silicon
    OT

    *** STEVE ALERT *** STEVE ALERT ***

    Heard on KQED radio this morning:

    People are upset at the new statue going up at the site of William Shockley's lab.

    Is it a statue of Shockley? No, it's a statue of a silicon crystal.

    But Shockley had cooties. And believed in IQ. And besides, what have silicon and hi-IQ people and that damn lab ever done for Silicon Valley?

    TAKE THE SILICON OUT OF SILICON VALLEY! PURIFY ALL IMPURITY!

    Too early to find anything online besides this, but stay tuned.

    Don’t they call adding “impurity” to silicon “doping?” So diversity in silicon valley is merely “doping” for nerdy Whites and Asians.

    Shockley as I recall invented the Field Effect Transistor. Couldn’t some artist be hired to create some supercool abstract art piece based on his FET patent?

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  184. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Jack D
    It's not just those two. There is some kind of national campaign going on where they are publishing these editorials in newspapers all across the country on the same day. It's more and more obvious that the mainstream press is the propaganda arm of the "Resistance".

    Of course this suits their political biases but I think it also is connected to changing economics. We see this also on TV also with the late night TV shows and with retailers. Once upon a time TV networks and newspapers were like department stores that catered to everyone, especially the vast middle class that was more or less evenly divided between the parties. And this was a profitable business model. Paley and Ochs and Graham might have been liberal Democrats but they were not going to put politics ahead of the business model that made them wealthy.

    But the mass market has been shattered by the internet and by the political and economic stratification of our society. So being everything to everyone means being nothing to anyone (see Sears). The only path forward that they can see is to find a profitable niche and a partisan niche is good when you no longer have a profit making business model. People have strong political loyalties that they are willing to back with contributions (some newspapers now solicit donations so Steve was ahead of the times as usual). The surviving daily newspaper in Philadelphia (and other cities) has been reorganized as a non-profit foundation. Getting 1 giant donation from a really rich guy who agrees with your politics is even better than having to beg for individual contributions. Better to jump onto a much smaller lifeboat than to go down with the ship.

    They’re so echo chambered that they do not understand
    1 – They were already constantly babbling about how Trump is The Devil. The effectiveness of this message must be hitting a ceiling now, or, y’know, a year and a half ago.
    2 – People hate them regardless of Trump and from before the Trump campaign. There’s some dupes who are still operating on Walter Cronkite era rules but nobody looks at these people as noble. The meta media meme prior to this was Britney Spears and Lindsay al-Hakim Lohan joking about murdering paparazzi.
    3 – Massive media consolidation and every single media channel coordinating the same message is something even flyover hicks can notice. You turn the dial and catch the same song playing at the same time.
    4 – The same “rural retards” can also conceptualize free speech separately from the coordinated corporate media nudge of the moment. Nobody is buying the idea that CNN Time Warner is a victim of censorship. Furthermore, more and more normies are aware of our media’s slavish worship of the Chinese government, especially on issues of access to information. Google in particular is doing everything it can to kill freedom of speech.
    5 – While they babble about free speech they are pursuing an unapologetic censorship campaign against alternative media, and the targets are the “respectable” ones.

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  185. SMK says: • Website
    @Hubbub

    The role of political leadership is to unite diverse communities, ensure vulnerable people are given the tools they need to thrive and to dismantle unhelpful stereotypes and prejudice – not to amplify them,” Cr Pavlidis said.
     
    Silly me. For some reason I thought the role of political leadership was...to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity..., but then I obviously don't understand Australian-Africanese.

    “The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils,” Enoch Powell in “Rivers of Blood.” Demonstrably, transparently, incontrovertibly true. But some of the words are too grandiose. Replace “supreme” with “common sense” and “statesmanship” with “politics.” No Africans, no black crime and gangs in Australia, the UK, etc. No Muslims, no terrorism, knife attacks, acid attacks, rape, gang-rapes, sexual assaults, the “grooming of girls as young and 10 and 11, “honor killings, etc. No Mestizos and pure indios from Mexico and Central America, no “Hispanic” crime and gangs, no MS 13, etc. Sundry evils and “rivers of blood,” all preventable.

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  186. Anon[204] • Disclaimer says:

    https://twitter.com/V_of_Europe/status/1030163833392951296

    (Could be a hack/hoax/???)

    Wonder who the investors are?

    Maybe Ron can help them out.

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  187. Anonymous[547] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    >beginning
    Years ago it was an understood thing that Australians were the biggest "piss-takers" on 4chan. They have a reputation as pranksters, site founder Christopher Poole identified them as the one thing he hated most, and their entire IP range has been banned. In the recent political upheaval I have felt intense closeness to this strange tribe of desert-bound alcoholics, who do not give their loyalty easily, but post in vast numbers. In a Second Amendment thread it is as likely to be an Australian as an American who corrects fallacies and explains the reasoning of things like god-given rights and not having arms in a centralized armory. You would think Hillsdale College or the Rutherfird Society had branches down under.

    >beginning
    Years ago it was an understood thing that Australians were the biggest “piss-takers” on 4chan. They have a reputation as pranksters, site founder Christopher Poole identified them as the one thing he hated most, and their entire IP range has been banned. In the recent political upheaval I have felt intense closeness to this strange tribe of desert-bound alcoholics, who do not give their loyalty easily, but post in vast numbers. In a Second Amendment thread it is as likely to be an Australian as an American who corrects fallacies and explains the reasoning of things like god-given rights and not having arms in a centralized armory. You would think Hillsdale College or the Rutherfird Society had branches down under.

    There are more of us here than they think, even on Unz. Hayagoin?

    It’s not to be unanticipated, given that the numpties running the place have
    1. De-armed us more thoroughly than Jews in the ghetto
    2. Subjected us to the highest rate of race replacement in the world for a generation.
    3. Constantly told us how we were the world’s biggest multicultural success story. Benedict Arnold and Quisling were pikers compared to the last half century of prime ministers.

    [MORE]

    The one good thing about gun control is that once we install Fraser Anning as PM (which will be hard as he’s in the Senate, not the lower house), the army can go house to house relocating people without having to have the full WHS approved safety gear, in case someone cuts a finger. Because you know what, it’s ok that working white Aussies of child bearing age can only afford one child, due to Chad boomers getting millions of Super taxed at 0-15%, importing home buyers to make themselves feel rich on paper. Those unborn whites are not the same as deaths, goy. WHAT’S IMPORTANT IS THAT NOT EVEN THE MOST STUPID WHITE AUSTRALIAN DIES FOR BEING STUPID. And that no potential boomer-like retirees get cancer from asbestos after they have had their children. While there are some boomers still in the workforce, the younger generation could conceivably be like boomers some day, so we must protect them at all costs.

    In a nutshell, Australian government policy boils down to:
    -trying to prevent old, stupid and generally careless people from dying
    -making the boomer cohort feel good about themselves for how smart and hard working they were for buying their houses for twice annual income
    -preventing white Aussies from breeding, except for the most stupid, who should be paid to do nothing but breed more stupid people
    -try to make Einsteins out of stupid feral idiots and the imported turd worlders, and institute royal commissions into why there are no good tertiary turd polishing machines out there
    -blame police chiefs for the results of the immigration policy
    -ensuring that most of our population comes from overpopulated, corrupt, third world s(*#holes.
    -Lie! e.g. We need more skilled migration, because Taxi driving is totally a skilled occupation, you have to punch buttons and stuff

    Yeah, we’re an object lesson in how not to run a country, and we have massive Bill of Rights envy.

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  188. Rosie says:
    @anon
    Ethnic gangsters are a protected species in Australia, like everywhere else that's got Democracy.
    The reason?
    Ethnics tend to bloc vote, so politicians keep pandering to them.
    Also, there's one particular ethnicity, although small in number, that organises the rest, and keeps the Grievance Industry afloat.

    Ethnic gangsters are a protected species in Australia, like everywhere else that’s got Democracy.
    The reason?
    Ethnics tend to bloc vote, so politicians keep pandering to them.
    Also, there’s one particular ethnicity, although small in number, that organises the rest, and keeps the Grievance Industry afloat.

    If Australian politics is like ours, I doubt they worry about elections. I think they know they have a nice safety net to fall into should they ever lose their positions, so long as they do as they are told.

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    If Australian politics is like ours, I doubt they worry about elections.
     
    Voting is compulsory in Australia.
    Yeah, the Ethnics don't worry much about Elections. They can't read, write, or speak English anyway.
    They just apply for a Postal Vote, and let the local Warlord fill it out and send it in.
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  189. Rosie says:
    @Charles Pewitt
    CIA Government Worker John Brennan Carved Up The Electronic Intelligence Gathering Apparatus Of The United States Government To Spy On The Trump Campaign For Partisan Purposes.

    John Brennan And His Ilk Are Carving Up The Constitution Of The United States Just Like Treasonous Elements Carved Up The Democrat Party.

    John Brennan Is An Enemy Of The US Constitution And John Brennan Is An Enemy Of The American People.

    John Brennan Has Revealed The Rot And Corruption In The CIA.

    The CIA must Be Abolished. The CIA Is Full Of John Brennan Type Treasonites.

    Let The NSA And The Military Intelligence Outfits Handle Intelligence Duties For The American Empire.

    Thomas Nast Wasn't Wrong And He Won't Be The Last To Notice Something About The Nasty John Brennan Types.

    https://twitter.com/DavidAstinWalsh/status/922539930399756289

    The thing is, Charles, if ethnic European immigrants had faced no resistance whatsoever from the native Anglo population, that too would be used to justify our dispossession. That’s not who we are!

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  190. Hail says: • Website
    @International Jew

    Australian-African community leader Maker Mayek
     
    How come the expression there is "Australian-African", but here it's the other way around -- "African-American"? Is this one of those hemisphere/coriolis force things again?

    Anagram mini-biography for:

    “Mayek: Australian-African”
    = Ya, a fanatical manure risk

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  191. @Jack D
    OT - here is a very iStevish article about the age that women have their first babies:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/04/upshot/up-birth-age-gap.html

    It would be interesting to correlate this with voting patterns but even eyeballing it I think the correlation will be pretty strong, at least among white voters.

    It's a little shocking that the chart starts at age 14 - it's really hard for me to conceive (no pun intended) of a 14 year old being a mother. But women now are sometimes pushing having their first (and probably only) child into their late 30s and even early 40s, which is just as crazy. I can understand delaying having a 1st child until college graduation (although a lot of mothers I knew in my parent's generation had their kids 1st and then went back to college when kids reached school age and this worked out fine for them) but it would be better if the expected pattern in UMC circles was undergraduate degree, then baby, then grad school/work. This would put age at 1st birth in the window of 22 to 25, which is a lot healthier and closer to what nature intended than 30+. I don't know how we get there though.

    … it would be better if the expected pattern in UMC circles was undergraduate degree, then baby, then grad school/work. This would put age at 1st birth in the window of 22 to 25, which is a lot healthier and closer to what nature intended than 30+. I don’t know how we get there though.

    Thanks Jack–for link and topic. This is a hugely important “conversation”. Ridiculously delayed marriage and child bearing of our “educated” classes is heading us toward a dysgenic disaster.

    Personally i’d be happy just to see the graph shift to the middle between those two (non-college and college) bumps in the 2016 graph–with lots of first babies coming in the mid/late 20s. With proper direction a woman should by then have enough “know thyself” under her belt to determine the sort of guy she wants and land him while she still has her looks and is offering “young and ripe” sex appeal in return. And a first baby for a college grad at 26 or 27 still gives her time to have a relatively big family if so motivated, which is what we need to turn around dysgenic fertility.

    As for fixes:

    #1 is obvious — end immigration.
    Stop jacking up the pressure on jobs, housing, schools, traffic … Steve’s affordable family formation. Don’t do that and everything else is pointless. We’re headed toward being an “Asian” nation in terms of crowding but made up of whites, latins, blacks.

    #2 change the narrative.
    And not just correcting the messaging around “the meaning of life”, “what’s important”, “what makes women happy”. Also need to restablish the notion that people belong to a nation and civilization. That they are part of something bigger–and that something is wonderful. That by building a family they are extending Western civilization–the greatest civilization in human history.
    (Sorry Chinese, Indians … that’s just the way it is.)

    This is probably the toughest job of all. We need to give Hollyweird the bums’ rush and build a new one. New media. New academia. This is a much bigger job that even 1945 in Germany. It’s not just physical rubble but intellectual/cultural rubble we must cart off, dump and rebuild.

    Those two essentially fix the problem. But i think there are some useful technocratic steps as well.

    #3 improve and shortern “education”
    Make residential college optional/irrelevant. On-line instruction. Exams where kids can show they can read, write, reason, do algebra, read and interpret graphs, do basic stats, demonstrate basic historical and cultural knowledge and demonstrate knowledge of particular degreed disciplines.

    Folks pursuing advanced technical education who really need to be in the lab, or are really going to pursue ivory tower careers can go on to “university”.

    There are so many “wins” here it’s ridiculous:
    – kids get through it faster and on to adult life
    – kids can have a real “goal” worth pursuing during their high school years; teenage wheel spinning can be reigned in
    – end/mitigate the “good school” rat race
    – end the Asian SAT cramming nonsense
    – better teaching; (the Teaching Company and like courses are better than typical college instruction)
    – end/mitigate the leftist indoctrination nonsense; (The fact based nature of most of what’s asked significantly reduces their lattitude and when employers can actually see what “learning” occurred the value of the A in greivance history 301 is much reduced. In fact, kids who take the grievance studies 301 exam might find employers are much *less* interested in them.)
    – dramatically lower the cultural salience of Harvard and the like
    – put a lot of leftist–useless eater–academics out to pasture and make them get useful jobs as barristas or stocking shelves at Walmart, etc.
    and
    – end of mammoth “send kids to college” expense, greatly reduces parental concern about affording a child or another child; should immediately boost college educated couples fertility

    #4 … hmm … ok, so excited about #3 that i forgot my #4.

    Anyway this is a fixable problem, but the gist of what it requires is a nation that self-confidently loves itself and ergo cares about reproducing itself. If you don’t have that no amount of technocratic tweaking is going to fix it.

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    Who are you to tell people when to have babies and when to go to grad school?

    Are you writing of all races or just Whites? Just what we need, millions more black and brown potential thugs.
    , @Jack D
    Note that this is a widespread problem in Westernized countries (including Japan) - the average age at first child is similar in many other advanced countries. So there must be something about all of modernity and not just American culture that is influencing this (to the extent that modernity is not synonymous with American culture, which it is to a large extent ).
    , @Corvinus
    "#1 is obvious — end immigration."

    Virtually impossible given our political climate. Significantly limiting it is an easier sell.

    "We’re headed toward being an “Asian” nation in terms of crowding but made up of whites, latins, blacks."

    Well, the WASPs in the 1850's said we were headed toward a "non-WASP" nation. How did that turn out?

    "#2 change the narrative."

    By brainwashing the masses? Thanks, but no thanks. People can make their own decisions.

    " That by building a family they are extending Western civilization–the greatest civilization in human history."

    That's more or less a personal opinion, friend.

    "It’s not just physical rubble but intellectual/cultural rubble we must cart off, dump and rebuild."

    See, you have these ideas, and then you have over the top ways of accomplishing them. It's noble to think this way, but you are being entirely impractical. "When you wish upon a star..."

    "Anyway this is a fixable problem, but the gist of what it requires is a nation that self-confidently loves itself and ergo cares about reproducing itself."

    Actually, Americans are self-confident lot, they love themselves, and they care about having children. Maybe just not in the ways that you demand.
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  192. Wilkey says:
    @Anonymous
    'People in the future' will have descended from them, not from us, and they'll be celebrating our demise forever. The SJWs and their (ilk) are the ones who are making it all happen. True, civilisation will hardly be recognisable and hardly worthy of the word, but that's how they want it.

    “People in the future’ will have descended from them, not from us, and they’ll be celebrating our demise forever.”

    We may be minorities in our own countries by that time, assuming we aren’t genocided into extinction, but there should still be more than enough whites around to wonder what the hell their ancestors were thinking. Plenty of browns will be wondering what today’s whites were thinking, too. I celebrate the conquest of the Americas by my ancestors but still wonder in awe that the natives were so stupid in tolerating us long enough for us to overpower them.

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    Have you read up on King Phillip's War in New England? I've started noticing the Pilgrims getting rewritten as refugees, and I can't help but thinking, does this mean we should let the refugees starve, or does this mean that the Indians were bad people for rising up against the children of immigrants? Or do I just take cover and say it's "problematic"?
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  193. O/T We have all enjoyed the summer “news” season’s hot trend of treating cell phone videos of “Beckys” acting purportedly racist, or saying things that are purportedly racist as national if not international headline news. All good fun in a the name of turning out the vote. Unfortunately, August has brought on a new slew of viral videos of racist women — only these are Connies, not Beckys.

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    See also:
    https://www.metrotimes.com/news-hits/archives/2018/08/16/detroit-rep-bettie-cook-scott-on-asian-opponent-dont-vote-for-the-ching-chong
    , @Ed
    The media treats blacks as sacred objectseveryone else not so much. Asians, in particularly the Chinese, aren’t about tolerating black dysfunction in their midst.
    , @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    "A small child walked out w/ a keychain – she took it back.
    He punched her in the face"

    After she struck him in the throat. Self-defense. Good for him.
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  194. Rosie says:
    @Jack D
    Sherilynn Fenn was quite the stunner in her younger days but nowadays she has really hit the wall. Recently I read that the peak age of desirability for women on online dating sites is 18 (it would probably be younger except for the law). It's all downhill after that. No wonder so many older women are bitter.

    Sherilynn Fenn was quite the stunner in her younger days but nowadays she has really hit the wall. Recently I read that the peak age of desirability for women on online dating sites is 18 (it would probably be younger except for the law). It’s all downhill after that. No wonder so many older women are bitter.

    How did they measure “desireability”? That’s not consistent with prior research. It would stand to reason that men would be most attracted to women around the age where birth complications decline. Otherwise, men would have a tendency to kill off their mates by impregnating them before their bodies are ready for childbirth.

    https://www.medicaldaily.com/age-aint-nothing-number-all-men-looking-love-prefer-women-mid-20s-due-high-fertility-rate-305502

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    Rosie you've pushed this "teenagers bodies aren't ready" nonsense before, but the age effect from 18 into the mid-20s is basically non-existent. Even the link you tossed up last time showed that the "teenage pregnancy" effect was absolutely miniscule--an once of birthweight. (I was surprised how minimal it was. There was a big effect--several onces--only with those who had a 2nd teen pregnancy which is accounted for by the huge selection effect that those are girls who are really incompetent clueless bozos.)

    Women in their late teens are perfectly ready for pregnancy--if they have the requisite weight, nutrition, etc. Under Malthusian pressure this often hasn't been the case in the past, but when the nutrition is there--they have babies just fine. (My wife's mom had her first kid at 19. It wasn't at all rare. Heck look at that graph in Jack's NYT article--even back in the dark ages of 1980 … not that rare!)

    Even by your own argument: Let's say we agree that a woman's peak fertility physically is sometime in her early mid-20s--say 24. Does that mean she is most desirable at 24? Not really. Not if you're thinking long term, as in marriage. You'd want to have her *before* her peak fertility and be impregnating her all through her period of peak fertility. Now for the typical hit-and-run black guy as in the disgusting cover pic on your article--sure. Ok, makes sense. Knock that bitch up tonight and skedaddle. But for build-a-family white guys, your biology argument--which i basically agree with--would suggest attraction to women right as they *enter* their best years of fertility which are something like 19-29.
    , @Jack D
    See the study:

    http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/4/8/eaap9815.full.pdf

    They have a somewhat complex (and I think reasonable) measure of desirability - the number of times you are contacted by people who are themselves sought after by people of the opposite sex.

    "The most popular individual in our four cities, a 30-year-old woman living in New York,
    received 1504 messages during the period of observation, equivalent to
    one message every 30 min, day and night, for the entire month."

    {And men wonder why women don't respond to their messages}

    But that person is not necessarily the most desirable if she is contacted mostly by losers whom other women are not interested in.

    Note that this is a study of online dating and not marriage so the incentives are somewhat different.
    , @anonymous
    What nonsense. You could just read the contemporary writings on the warlike Scottish even as close to the 1800s. Belligerent societies historically had life so cheap that the idea of a few percentage death in childbirth is laughable - infant mortality of fifty percent was common, and much of it was due to malnutrition. Death was just common: by childbirth, by hunger, by violence. In my own family tree are hordes of fourteen or sixteen years old brides, and deaths before seven..of children who were christianed with names. Many infants died before that.

    And damn if my people did not become fearsome for it. Witness the legend of the Black Watch.

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  195. @Anthony Wayne
    O/T We have all enjoyed the summer “news” season’s hot trend of treating cell phone videos of “Beckys” acting purportedly racist, or saying things that are purportedly racist as national if not international headline news. All good fun in a the name of turning out the vote. Unfortunately, August has brought on a new slew of viral videos of racist women — only these are Connies, not Beckys.

    https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1029054132295020544

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    From your link:

    She currently represents Detroit's southeast side and three of the Grosse Pointes...
     
    The top and bottom against the middle!
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  196. Rosie says:
    @Corvinus
    "all the pro-immigration research i’ve ever read has been built on deliberate mathematical deception like this."

    No, what you have here is a confirmation bias, and anything that does not fit your worldview automatically becomes labeled as "deception".

    No, what you have here is a confirmation bias, and anything that does not fit your worldview automatically becomes labeled as “deception”.

    Has it ever occurred to you that it is actually you who have confirmation bias?

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    Comments like that from Corvinus are both funnier and more accurate if read as projection.
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  197. res says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    You really must learn to use the "blockquote" feature.

    And now you are doubling down, SJW-style. You ASSUME these institutions lack credibility, thus any conclusions to the contrary of your narrative is dismissed. Instead, you must take an honest, forthright look into the data and challenge it with counter evidence. Mere hand waving makes you look foolish. And it is interesting that when the Alt Right cites specific research, it ought to be taken as the gospel.
     
    No, not at all. I'm refusing to be sold a false bill of goods.

    I'll take "an honest, forthright look into the data" when there's a meaningful effort to collect some reliable data relevant to this issue. Since the academy and the very urban municipalities which are in the best position to collect the relevant data have announced themselves to be "sanctuaries" for criminal illegal aliens, you must forgive me for not taking their words for it.

    Corvinus invoking “honest and forthright” is one of the funniest things I have ever read here. Thanks for the laugh, Corvy.

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  198. res says:
    @Rosie

    No, what you have here is a confirmation bias, and anything that does not fit your worldview automatically becomes labeled as “deception”.
     
    Has it ever occurred to you that it is actually you who have confirmation bias?

    Comments like that from Corvinus are both funnier and more accurate if read as projection.

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  199. Anonymous[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    What does law enforcement say?

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jan/03/is-melbourne-in-the-grip-of-african-gangs-the-facts-behind-the-lurid-headlines

    An Australian official had made the claim that people in Melbourne are “scared to go out to restaurants in the nighttime.” Yet...

    https://twitter.com/timpallas/status/951312749878849536/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E951312749878849536&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fentry%2Fafrican-gang-australia_us_5a581026e4b04df054f77f7e

    What about Victorian crime statistics? Well, robbery figures rose 12 percent in the last two years, but there is a reduction in property damage, burglary and theft.

    https://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au/crime-statistics/latest-crime-data/recorded-criminal-incidents

    This source reports that "[F]igures from Victoria's Crime Statistics Agency show that Victorians born in Sudan were responsible for just 0.1 per cent of all crimes committed in 2017. 'The statistics absolutely do not support that we have a gang problem in Victoria, the statistics do not support that we have increasing crime in Victoria and the statistics show overwhelmingly that the largest number of offenders in Victoria are Australian born,' said Dr Rebecca Wickes, a senior lecturer in criminology at Monash University."

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/what-s-behind-the-african-gangs-fallout

    And here is a psychologist who offers background and context.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/prevention-now/201802/are-african-youth-gangs-in-australia-real-threat

    Sailer’s first law of NOTICING THE UNNOTICED–The media, mainstream or alternative, furnishes us with convenient concepts that make it easier to remember the facts they prefer you to know and harder to remember the facts that undermine the concepts.

    What does law enforcement say?

    Yeah, what do PC-addled institutions say?

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-02/street-gangs-are-a-problem-in-melbourne-police-admit/9297984

    Victorian police have conceded Melbourne has a problem with African street gangs, after earlier insisting there were no gangs in the city, as the State Government rejects criticism it has dropped the ball on the problem.

    You quote:

    This source reports that “[F]igures from Victoria’s Crime Statistics Agency show that Victorians born in Sudan were responsible for just 0.1 per cent of all crimes committed in 2017. ‘The statistics absolutely do not support that we have a gang problem in Victoria, the statistics do not support that we have increasing crime in Victoria and the statistics show overwhelmingly that the largest number of offenders in Victoria are Australian born,’ said Dr Rebecca Wickes, a senior lecturer in criminology at Monash University.”

    Could it be possible that the nice senior lecturer lady doesn’t want us to understand “per capita”?

    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/apex-fears-spark-concerns-about-racial-profiling-20161122-gsvete.html (from http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-age-sudanese-in-melbourne-victims-of-racial-profiling-also-committing-two-orders-of-magnitude-more-major-crimes/)

    But Sudanese youths were vastly over-represented in the 2015 data, responsible for 7.44 per cent of home invasions, 5.65 per cent of car thefts and 13.9 per cent of aggravated robberies, despite Sudanese-born citizens making up about 0.11 per cent of Victoria’s population.

    See? “Overwhelmingly” not Sudanese!

    Academics transparently bullshitting — all in the service of social justice.

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    2 lies for the price of one!
    Many , if not most of these overgrown ''youths'' may have been born in Australia, since the Howard Government started importing the Sudanese as Refugees in 1996.

    Our Fake Government laps up the praise for stopping a few thousand Boaties every year, while opening the floodgates to Africa and Asia.

    Tongans and Samoans just hop on a plane from New Zealand, walk through the door, and stay here forever, not infrequently in one of our hellish Maximum Security Prisons following a trademark fatal assault.
    From the odd conversation, I glean that the Tongan/Samoans are well aware that YT's time at the top in Australia is drawing to a close.
    , @Corvinus
    "Yeah, what do PC-addled institutions say?"

    No, what does law enforcement have to say? They have a crime issue with certain segment of a larger group of newcomers. Is it or is it not gangs? That's a matter of perspective, as the details. Interestingly enough, the statistics also show that a Victorian is more than 25 times more likely to be seriously assaulted by someone born in Australia or New Zealand than someone born in Sudan or Kenya. Furthermore, it almost five times more likely for a victim of aggravated burglary to be committed by an Australian or New Zealand-born offender, than one born in Sudan or Kenya.

    "But Sudanese youths were vastly over-represented in the 2015 data, responsible for 7.44 per cent of home invasions, 5.65 per cent of car thefts and 13.9 per cent of aggravated robberies, despite Sudanese-born citizens making up about 0.11 per cent of Victoria’s population."

    People born in Sudan make up just 0.1 per cent of Victoria's total population (roughly 6000). About 50% of that population is under the age of 25, which is being compared to 33% of the general Australian population. So it is not a like to like comparison. Out of 1800 offenders between the ages of 10-18 for serious assault from 2016-2017, only 54 were Sudanese. Out of 1900 offenders between the ages of 10-18 for non-aggravated burglary from 2016-2017, only 38 were Sudanese. Overall, youth crime has fallen in Victoria within the past decade.

    So the real numbers are telling.
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  200. @Hubbub

    The role of political leadership is to unite diverse communities, ensure vulnerable people are given the tools they need to thrive and to dismantle unhelpful stereotypes and prejudice – not to amplify them,” Cr Pavlidis said.
     
    Silly me. For some reason I thought the role of political leadership was...to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity..., but then I obviously don't understand Australian-Africanese.

    The role of political leadership is to unite diverse communities, ensure vulnerable people are given the tools they need to thrive and to dismantle unhelpful stereotypes and prejudice – not to amplify them,” Cr Pavlidis said.

    Yeah, that struck me too. The sheer cloying stupidity of these people is beyond belief.

    However it is said the actual goal of a political leader is to insure the survival and improve the prospects of their clan/tribe/nation.

    Essentially that means:
    – Defense/warfare — protect from invasion or if necessary invade someone else
    – Adjudicate internal disputes — fair settlement to internal disputes so they don’t spiral up into trouble, division, civil war; i.e. rule-of-law

    Then after those basics, leaders in a civilized society can be doing provision of public goods–roads, schools, sewers so life is better and the nation more successful and powerful.

    Nowhere has the charter ever been such a teacly pablum as the above.

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  201. Joe Joe says:
    @Simon
    CotF?

    Coalition of the Fringes

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  202. Ed says:
    @Anthony Wayne
    O/T We have all enjoyed the summer “news” season’s hot trend of treating cell phone videos of “Beckys” acting purportedly racist, or saying things that are purportedly racist as national if not international headline news. All good fun in a the name of turning out the vote. Unfortunately, August has brought on a new slew of viral videos of racist women — only these are Connies, not Beckys.

    https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1029054132295020544

    Could the Future be fracturing faster than expected? Some are calling for an out and out boycott of Asian-owned shops in the Community.

    The media treats blacks as sacred objectseveryone else not so much. Asians, in particularly the Chinese, aren’t about tolerating black dysfunction in their midst.

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  203. @kissinger
    The thing is communism was a political ideology that could be removed.

    The diversity commissars are moving in millions of "vibrants" every year into the west. Even if you get rid of the commissars, you will still be dealing with the consequences of their madness. You can't just make millions of Africans disappear.

    I fear we will end up more like the downfall of the Roman Empire than the dissolution of the USSR.

    The thing is communism was a political ideology that could be removed.
    The diversity commissars are moving in millions of “vibrants” every year into the west.

    Exactly. This is communism 2.0.

    Communism 1.0 was dreary and got hijacked by the natives and then tossed off.

    Communism 2.0 fixes all that–they keep the machine running and get rich; and the natives are balkanized and replaced so control can’t be hijacked and their rule tossed off.

    Got to give it to them–it’s clever.

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    Got to give it to them–it’s clever.

     

    It's diabolical, and I mean that literally.
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  204. @Reg Cæsar

    City of Moreland Mayor John Kavanagh
     
    Shades of Detroit 51 years ago!

    https://funnelme.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/jerome_cavanagh_keep-detroit-moving.jpg

    African-Australian leaders in Victoria have said the “gang” rhetoric is an example of fear-mongering and has vilified their community to the point some now feel unwelcome in the state…
     
    R-E-S-P-E-C-T, find out what it means to me...

    Speaking of Detroit, R.I.P., Aretha.

    City of Whittlesea Mayor Kris Pavlidis accused politicians returning to the “African gang” rhetoric of turning the rift into an election issue.
     
    Perhaps that should be "City of Witless".



    Eight Melbourne mayors...
     
    Eight?

    What kind of city needs eight mayors? That sounds like a gang in itself.

    From the Muscle Shoals movie (2013): the story of Aretha Franklin recording her first big hit, “I Never Loved a Man (The Way I Love You)” in Muscle Shoals. (Fame Studios producer Rick Hall died back in January.)

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    Great film that.

    50 years of amnesia is exactly right.

    Fuck these SJW conmen.
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  205. @Anthony Wayne
    See also:
    https://www.metrotimes.com/news-hits/archives/2018/08/16/detroit-rep-bettie-cook-scott-on-asian-opponent-dont-vote-for-the-ching-chong

    From your link:

    She currently represents Detroit’s southeast side and three of the Grosse Pointes…

    The top and bottom against the middle!

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  206. @JerseyJeffersonian
    Alec,

    Corvinus is perfectly willing to advance whatever leftist-skewed reports and studies as The Gospel Truth, is impervious to the idea that their origins in the fever swamp of Cultural Marxism might limit our desire to attribute unquestioned validity to these ideologically-massaged pronouncements, and is constantly handing out assignments for everyone who responds skeptically to this codswallow to come up with contrary accounts (not that he would accept them were they to be produced). His posting strategy is like being hit with a string of SLAAP suits, suits often based on nothing but the desire to wear one down, and almost always with little to no basis in fact. That's how he rolls. As with his link to the "Scientific" American article, just look at the picture at its head with the crowd's signage basically stating the conclusions that will be reached in the article; i.e., nobody is illegal, immigrants without exception welcome, welcome, welcome. It is from the new, Trotskyite recension of SA, dating from 2017 if there is any doubt, and thoroughly imbued with TDS, so what would one expect, I mean seriously? Feh.

    But further to your point, in self-isolated, willfully unassimilating populations, the community standard is "snitches get stiches", so even if there were some in those populations of illegal aliens who would be happy to see the criminals in their communities arrested and prosecuted, they fear the immediate danger of retaliation. This makes it extremely difficult for police and prosecutors to build cases. I see this all of the time in my nearest city, Philadelphia, where intimidation serves to squelch law enforcement efforts to protect not only the surrounding community, but also those within the illegal immigrant community.

    But the obvious conclusion, that if a whole community is comprised of people whose very first act in this country is to break the laws concerning immigration, that little better can be expected downstream regardless (or perhaps, because) of the puling and whining of their SJW advocates. You want to go head on at criminality? You uproot criminogenic environments. But no, the special pleading and hand wringing starts with the SJWs and never, ever stops.

    Corvinus is perfectly willing to advance whatever leftist-skewed reports and studies as The Gospel Truth, is impervious to the idea that their origins in the fever swamp of Cultural Marxism might limit our desire to attribute unquestioned validity to these ideologically-massaged pronouncements, and is constantly handing out assignments for everyone who responds skeptically to this codswallow to come up with contrary accounts (not that he would accept them were they to be produced).

    Corvinus, like a few others on here, does not argue in good faith. He simply regurgitates nonsense or adds irrelevant or out-of-context links and as you said, then hands out homework assignments.

    Reading his drivel is a waste of your time. Add him to your “commenters to ignore” list and move on.

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  207. @Rosie

    Sherilynn Fenn was quite the stunner in her younger days but nowadays she has really hit the wall. Recently I read that the peak age of desirability for women on online dating sites is 18 (it would probably be younger except for the law). It’s all downhill after that. No wonder so many older women are bitter.
     
    How did they measure "desireability"? That's not consistent with prior research. It would stand to reason that men would be most attracted to women around the age where birth complications decline. Otherwise, men would have a tendency to kill off their mates by impregnating them before their bodies are ready for childbirth.

    https://www.medicaldaily.com/age-aint-nothing-number-all-men-looking-love-prefer-women-mid-20s-due-high-fertility-rate-305502

    Rosie you’ve pushed this “teenagers bodies aren’t ready” nonsense before, but the age effect from 18 into the mid-20s is basically non-existent. Even the link you tossed up last time showed that the “teenage pregnancy” effect was absolutely miniscule–an once of birthweight. (I was surprised how minimal it was. There was a big effect–several onces–only with those who had a 2nd teen pregnancy which is accounted for by the huge selection effect that those are girls who are really incompetent clueless bozos.)

    Women in their late teens are perfectly ready for pregnancy–if they have the requisite weight, nutrition, etc. Under Malthusian pressure this often hasn’t been the case in the past, but when the nutrition is there–they have babies just fine. (My wife’s mom had her first kid at 19. It wasn’t at all rare. Heck look at that graph in Jack’s NYT article–even back in the dark ages of 1980 … not that rare!)

    Even by your own argument: Let’s say we agree that a woman’s peak fertility physically is sometime in her early mid-20s–say 24. Does that mean she is most desirable at 24? Not really. Not if you’re thinking long term, as in marriage. You’d want to have her *before* her peak fertility and be impregnating her all through her period of peak fertility. Now for the typical hit-and-run black guy as in the disgusting cover pic on your article–sure. Ok, makes sense. Knock that bitch up tonight and skedaddle. But for build-a-family white guys, your biology argument–which i basically agree with–would suggest attraction to women right as they *enter* their best years of fertility which are something like 19-29.

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    So these women are suppose to have babies by artificial insemination and raise them by themselves? No men and fathers involved

    And how many White children do you have? 2 probably as you pontificate about women should go out and get pregnant all by themselves and raise the kids without fathers.
    , @Rosie

    Rosie you’ve pushed this “teenagers bodies aren’t ready” nonsense before, but the age effect from 18 into the mid-20s is basically non-existent.
     
    Back off. You don't need to take this tone with me.

    Women in their late teens are perfectly ready for pregnancy–if they have the requisite weight, nutrition, etc. Under Malthusian pressure this often hasn’t been the case in the past, but when the nutrition is there–they have babies just fine. (My wife’s mom had her first kid at 19. It wasn’t at all rare. Heck look at that graph in Jack’s NYT article–even back in the dark ages of 1980 … not that rare!)
     
    I don't doubt that women in their late teens are by and large physically ready for pregnancy, but they are not emotionally or socially ready for motherhood. The fact that your Wife's mom had her first kid at 19 doesn't mean sh!t. Can't boys sire children at twelve?

    Even by your own argument: Let’s say we agree that a woman’s peak fertility physically is sometime in her early mid-20s–say 24. Does that mean she is most desirable at 24?
     
    Actually yes, that would stand to reason. If you are a prehistoric male at high risk of early death in battle with game or human rivals, your best bet is to choose a partner at peak fertility, and under no circumstances would it be adaptive to impregnate teenagers when they are still at an elevated risk of birth complications. That would be seriously damaging to group fitness.

    FWIW, I'm not just assuming that women in their thirties are most attractive. I produced a study that actually so indicates. So I don't know what you're getting all pissy with me about. I was merely inquiring about Jack's source so I could take a closer look at the data.
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  208. @Anonymous
    Democracy applied to immigration policy is literally Nazism, though.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/14/australian-senator-calls-for-final-solution-to-immigration-problem


    ... He said neither the former Labor prime minister Gough Whitlam, nor any subsequent government, had asked Australians what kind of immigration they wanted. “What we do need a plebiscite for is to decide who comes here.”

    Anning declared on Tuesday the reasons “for ending all further Muslim immigration are both compelling and self-evident”.

    “The record of Muslims who have already come to this country in terms of rates of crime, welfare dependency and terrorism are the worst of any migrant and vastly exceed another immigrant group,” he said.

    “The majority of Muslims in Australia of working age do not work and exist on welfare. Muslims in New South Wales and Victoria are three times more likely than other groups to be convicted of crimes.”

    “We have black African Muslim gangs terrorising Melbourne, we have Isis-sympathising Muslims trying to go overseas to try and fight for Isis and while all Muslims are not terrorists, certainly all terrorists these days are Muslims.

    “So why would anyone want to bring more of them here?”

    ... “In the days of Menzies, immigrants arriving here were not allowed to apply for welfare and that attracted exactly the right sort of hardworking people this country needed”.

    “We should go back to that and ban all immigrants from receiving welfare for the first five years after they arrive,” he said.

    The senator then invoked the term “final solution” in calling for his preferred plebiscite on the “immigration problem”.

    “The final solution to the immigration problem, of course, is a popular vote.”
     

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-45191315

    An Australian senator has been widely condemned for a speech that invoked the term "final solution" in a call for immigration restrictions based on race.

    … Political opponents denounced his speech as "disgraceful". Mr Anning said he did not need to apologise.

    "Final solution" was a term infamously used by the Nazis during the Holocaust.

    In his speech, Mr Anning said "the final solution to the immigration problem is a popular vote".

    ... The senator, a former member of Pauline Hanson's anti-Islam One Nation Party, called for a return to the White Australia Policy - which restricted non-European immigrants from 1901 until the 1960s.

    Labor's Senate leader Penny Wong, who was born in Malaysia, said the White Australia Policy had been "rightly consigned to the dustbin of history".

    ... Meanwhile, Australia's first Muslim female senator, Mehreen Faruqi, who filled a vacant seat on Wednesday, said Mr Anning had "spat in the face of millions of Australians, spewing hate and racism".
    "I'm a Muslim migrant, I'm about to be a Senator and there's not a damn thing Fraser Anning can do about it," she wrote in a piece for website Junkee.
     

    Yep, that attitude sounds about right.

    ... [Prime Minister] Turnbull told parliament: "We need to stand up for what we are... the most successful multicultural society in the world, united by democratic values that do not distinguish between race, religion, colour or cultural background."

    ... Mr Katter said he supported Mr Anning's speech "1000%" but suggested that his colleague did not know much about the Holocaust.

    "He's smart, but he hasn't read all the history books," Mr Katter told reporters.
     

    We’re in a world where the establishment peddles absolute kindergarten level syrupy emotional nonsense, and the “Nazis” speak reasonable, logical, clear headed common sense.

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  209. @Jack D
    It's not just those two. There is some kind of national campaign going on where they are publishing these editorials in newspapers all across the country on the same day. It's more and more obvious that the mainstream press is the propaganda arm of the "Resistance".

    Of course this suits their political biases but I think it also is connected to changing economics. We see this also on TV also with the late night TV shows and with retailers. Once upon a time TV networks and newspapers were like department stores that catered to everyone, especially the vast middle class that was more or less evenly divided between the parties. And this was a profitable business model. Paley and Ochs and Graham might have been liberal Democrats but they were not going to put politics ahead of the business model that made them wealthy.

    But the mass market has been shattered by the internet and by the political and economic stratification of our society. So being everything to everyone means being nothing to anyone (see Sears). The only path forward that they can see is to find a profitable niche and a partisan niche is good when you no longer have a profit making business model. People have strong political loyalties that they are willing to back with contributions (some newspapers now solicit donations so Steve was ahead of the times as usual). The surviving daily newspaper in Philadelphia (and other cities) has been reorganized as a non-profit foundation. Getting 1 giant donation from a really rich guy who agrees with your politics is even better than having to beg for individual contributions. Better to jump onto a much smaller lifeboat than to go down with the ship.

    It’s not just those two. There is some kind of national campaign going on where they are publishing these editorials in newspapers all across the country on the same day.

    My understanding is that it was, if not coordinated, at least partially organized by the Boston Globe. 300+ newspapers (including such opinion leaders as the Pagosa Springs (Colorado) Sun, circulation about 4,000) ran a similar editorial today.

    The bloviating self-importance of the “press” has ceased being amusing. For most of newspaper history, newspapers were aligned with one political faction or the other. Nothing has changed, but somewhere in the 20th century – maybe a function of having only 3 TV stations or perhaps a relatively homogenous population – the mainstream media adopted this ridiculous stance that they are impartial oracles of wisdom with motives beyond question.

    There’s nothing wrong with being an arm of the democratic party (CNN) or a mouthpiece for a greedy, self-interested billionaire (Bezos Post) but enough with the lying and pretending they’re something else. This whole “civilization will collapse if we’re not bowed to because we’re the press” is absurd.

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  210. @J.Ross
    OT remember that New Mexico compound where a jihadist, whose dad was tied to the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and is a senior advisor to an Ikhwan group, was training children to become school shooters, and a kidnapped child was likely killed in an exorcism and was buried on the property, and the judge let everybody out on bail because she couldn't see how being a terrorist with a dead kid's body was a "specific threat" ...
    Yeah, the government bulldozed the compound.
    This is real and is being reported on a mainstream site with photographs.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/new-mexico-compound-mysteriously-destroyed-by-authorities-1299928131725?v=railb
    https://media.giphy.com/media/joV1k1sNOT5xC/giphy.gif

    “Yeah, the government bulldozed the compound.”

    Shades of Sandy Hook. Anyone else think it passing strange when they demolished Sandy Hook Elementary three weeks after “Adam Lanza” “shot” “952 children” or whatever the official death toll was?

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    Skepticism is a luxury we can no longer afford in these fraught times.
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  211. @Prof. Woland
    I imagine that many Aussies are beginning to regret having given up their guns.

    I imagine that many Aussies are beginning to regret having given up their guns.

    Weird to me how that could happen.

    Australia’s basically a big desert with a little ring of nice temperate zone territory. To a typical American like me it’s supposed to still be a little more “wild”, more “frontier” even now. And Australians are supposed to be a bit wilder–descendants of convicts and settlers of sheep stations out in the bush. Even more Irish–i.e. wild and f’you–than the USofA.

    How the heck did they turn into a bunch of pansies, with their tails tucked between their legs turning their guns into the man?

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    (They didn't all turn them in.)
    A real wake-up awaits anyone who looks at these overseas shooting incident-cum-snap legislation events. This is clearly what they wanted to do here, but here, we have cultural and organizational barriers they could not batter with freak events that suddenly happen once a week for a year and then go back to almost never happening. Funnily enough, they did slow down once repeated popular outcries made it clear that sweeping legislation was not in the cards. Of course, you can't get too good a look at the Scottish one, because the British government made that a military-style state secret for one hundred years. I guess that is how criminal investigations in democracies work.
    Compare gay marriage: so unthinkable that leading democrats opposed it. Then we woke up one morning to find it had been forced top-down, so opponents would have to leave the advantages of defense, going on the offensive on something every poll said nobody cared about. This is what they want to do. What they have settled on now is legalized swatting (Emergency Protection Removal Order), extra-psychiatrically declaring people to be insane, and smaller and slower attempts like the New York SAFE act and magazine limitation.
    , @Jack D
    Australia is even more urbanized than the US. It's like Canada in that the country is vast but most of the (small) 25M population (2/3 of the California population) clings to a thin strip - in Canada it's the US border and in Australia it's certain parts of the coasts. 86% of the population lives in urban areas so ideologically they behave like urbanites. The closest analogy would be if the US consisted only of the part that is west of 110 degrees W - you'd have large liberal population along the coast and an interior that is conservative but almost completely empty. People who live on sheep stations may be as you describe but there is one sheep station every 50 miles. Australia has no large interior cities - no Las Vegas or Phoenix. The interior is like the desert of Nevada if Nevada was 2,000 miles across.

    https://edge.alluremedia.com.au/uploads/businessinsider/2017/07/Population-density-australia-June-2016.jpg

    , @anon
    Australia was populated by free English settlers, very few can claim descent from a convict.
    The Irish are big self promoters here, though.
    If there's whingeing, whining, or bitching happening Down Under, there'll be the venal Irish doing it.

    The guns handover was styled the Guns Buyback. In most States everything bar handguns could be bought off the self without a licence.
    Plenty of smarties handed in junk they didn't want, and got paid top dollar, while keeping the guns they did want.
    Of course, their Names & Addresses must be in a database somewhere, so one day they, or whoever lives at that address now, will get a visit from Mr. Plod, seeking the rest of their weapons.
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  212. Anonymous[296] • Disclaimer says:
    @Whiskey
    White women want them around. Like they do pit bulls. Women need male dominance and violence like Madonna needed Sean Penn. The love of her life she says.

    If native men are not violent enough they will import it.

    Like Madonna, who divorced Sean Penn after a short marriage, some white women have to learn the hard way, I suppose.

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  213. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    OT - here is a very iStevish article about the age that women have their first babies:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/04/upshot/up-birth-age-gap.html

    It would be interesting to correlate this with voting patterns but even eyeballing it I think the correlation will be pretty strong, at least among white voters.

    It's a little shocking that the chart starts at age 14 - it's really hard for me to conceive (no pun intended) of a 14 year old being a mother. But women now are sometimes pushing having their first (and probably only) child into their late 30s and even early 40s, which is just as crazy. I can understand delaying having a 1st child until college graduation (although a lot of mothers I knew in my parent's generation had their kids 1st and then went back to college when kids reached school age and this worked out fine for them) but it would be better if the expected pattern in UMC circles was undergraduate degree, then baby, then grad school/work. This would put age at 1st birth in the window of 22 to 25, which is a lot healthier and closer to what nature intended than 30+. I don't know how we get there though.

    So these babies are the products of artificial insemnation? No men involved? No married women involved?

    With no men around to help conceive the babies, help raise, or even acknowledge them, no wonder birth rates are so low.

    But never fear, millions of Hispanic Asian Arab and African immigrants will raise the population to unbearable levels. San Francisco is already building Hong King style high rise condos, 400 sq ft 2 bedrooms to accommodate 20 people.

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    Are women marrying strawmen these days? Tell the Tinny Duck.
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  214. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    OT - here is a very iStevish article about the age that women have their first babies:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/04/upshot/up-birth-age-gap.html

    It would be interesting to correlate this with voting patterns but even eyeballing it I think the correlation will be pretty strong, at least among white voters.

    It's a little shocking that the chart starts at age 14 - it's really hard for me to conceive (no pun intended) of a 14 year old being a mother. But women now are sometimes pushing having their first (and probably only) child into their late 30s and even early 40s, which is just as crazy. I can understand delaying having a 1st child until college graduation (although a lot of mothers I knew in my parent's generation had their kids 1st and then went back to college when kids reached school age and this worked out fine for them) but it would be better if the expected pattern in UMC circles was undergraduate degree, then baby, then grad school/work. This would put age at 1st birth in the window of 22 to 25, which is a lot healthier and closer to what nature intended than 30+. I don't know how we get there though.

    Who are you to tell women you will never meet when to have children and when to go to grad school?

    In your imaginary universe, it seems there are no men or fathers involved. Or a fairy godmother will just deliver a husband on a women’s 21st birthday so she can have 3 children at age 22, 23 and 24.

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    Society is already telling them what to do. Do you think it's just a coincidence that millions of women have all come to the individual decision to have their 1st child on the edge of menopause? People like to think that they have free will and are making their own individual decisions, but isn't it funny that they all make the same decision during any given time period?
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  215. @Corvinus
    What does law enforcement say?

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jan/03/is-melbourne-in-the-grip-of-african-gangs-the-facts-behind-the-lurid-headlines

    An Australian official had made the claim that people in Melbourne are “scared to go out to restaurants in the nighttime.” Yet...

    https://twitter.com/timpallas/status/951312749878849536/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E951312749878849536&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fentry%2Fafrican-gang-australia_us_5a581026e4b04df054f77f7e

    What about Victorian crime statistics? Well, robbery figures rose 12 percent in the last two years, but there is a reduction in property damage, burglary and theft.

    https://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au/crime-statistics/latest-crime-data/recorded-criminal-incidents

    This source reports that "[F]igures from Victoria's Crime Statistics Agency show that Victorians born in Sudan were responsible for just 0.1 per cent of all crimes committed in 2017. 'The statistics absolutely do not support that we have a gang problem in Victoria, the statistics do not support that we have increasing crime in Victoria and the statistics show overwhelmingly that the largest number of offenders in Victoria are Australian born,' said Dr Rebecca Wickes, a senior lecturer in criminology at Monash University."

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/what-s-behind-the-african-gangs-fallout

    And here is a psychologist who offers background and context.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/prevention-now/201802/are-african-youth-gangs-in-australia-real-threat

    Sailer’s first law of NOTICING THE UNNOTICED–The media, mainstream or alternative, furnishes us with convenient concepts that make it easier to remember the facts they prefer you to know and harder to remember the facts that undermine the concepts.

    “The importantest fact for any GoodWhite to remember is that Irishmen and Italians were rowdy troublemakers a hundred years ago; thus, white countries must abolish their borders.” ~ Le Autiste Corvi

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  216. J.Ross says: • Website
    @AnotherDad

    I imagine that many Aussies are beginning to regret having given up their guns.
     
    Weird to me how that could happen.

    Australia's basically a big desert with a little ring of nice temperate zone territory. To a typical American like me it's supposed to still be a little more "wild", more "frontier" even now. And Australians are supposed to be a bit wilder--descendants of convicts and settlers of sheep stations out in the bush. Even more Irish--i.e. wild and f'you--than the USofA.

    How the heck did they turn into a bunch of pansies, with their tails tucked between their legs turning their guns into the man?

    (They didn’t all turn them in.)
    A real wake-up awaits anyone who looks at these overseas shooting incident-cum-snap legislation events. This is clearly what they wanted to do here, but here, we have cultural and organizational barriers they could not batter with freak events that suddenly happen once a week for a year and then go back to almost never happening. Funnily enough, they did slow down once repeated popular outcries made it clear that sweeping legislation was not in the cards. Of course, you can’t get too good a look at the Scottish one, because the British government made that a military-style state secret for one hundred years. I guess that is how criminal investigations in democracies work.
    Compare gay marriage: so unthinkable that leading democrats opposed it. Then we woke up one morning to find it had been forced top-down, so opponents would have to leave the advantages of defense, going on the offensive on something every poll said nobody cared about. This is what they want to do. What they have settled on now is legalized swatting (Emergency Protection Removal Order), extra-psychiatrically declaring people to be insane, and smaller and slower attempts like the New York SAFE act and magazine limitation.

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  217. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    Rosie you've pushed this "teenagers bodies aren't ready" nonsense before, but the age effect from 18 into the mid-20s is basically non-existent. Even the link you tossed up last time showed that the "teenage pregnancy" effect was absolutely miniscule--an once of birthweight. (I was surprised how minimal it was. There was a big effect--several onces--only with those who had a 2nd teen pregnancy which is accounted for by the huge selection effect that those are girls who are really incompetent clueless bozos.)

    Women in their late teens are perfectly ready for pregnancy--if they have the requisite weight, nutrition, etc. Under Malthusian pressure this often hasn't been the case in the past, but when the nutrition is there--they have babies just fine. (My wife's mom had her first kid at 19. It wasn't at all rare. Heck look at that graph in Jack's NYT article--even back in the dark ages of 1980 … not that rare!)

    Even by your own argument: Let's say we agree that a woman's peak fertility physically is sometime in her early mid-20s--say 24. Does that mean she is most desirable at 24? Not really. Not if you're thinking long term, as in marriage. You'd want to have her *before* her peak fertility and be impregnating her all through her period of peak fertility. Now for the typical hit-and-run black guy as in the disgusting cover pic on your article--sure. Ok, makes sense. Knock that bitch up tonight and skedaddle. But for build-a-family white guys, your biology argument--which i basically agree with--would suggest attraction to women right as they *enter* their best years of fertility which are something like 19-29.

    So these women are suppose to have babies by artificial insemination and raise them by themselves? No men and fathers involved

    And how many White children do you have? 2 probably as you pontificate about women should go out and get pregnant all by themselves and raise the kids without fathers.

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    So these women are suppose to have babies by artificial insemination and raise them by themselves? No men and fathers involved
     
    There is a widespread view on the Right that men are just dying to have huge broods of children, but alas women are so selfish they just can't find a willing helpmeet.

    I don't know where this idea comes from.

    One thing alt-Right men never seem to question is ABC (artificial birth control). I think they like being able to spill their seed without giving us children.
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  218. @Corvinus
    "Knowing what you must know, as a reader of this blog, about the extraordinarily high per capita rates of crime committed by people of African descent everywhere from Australia to Brazil to Europe to the U.S., what’s your best argument for why countries ought to welcome large numbers of African immigrants?"

    I would say first you need to show some work regarding your claim.

    In a related matter, what has our history said about immigration, crime, and incarceration in early twentieth-century America in regards to Eastern and Southern European immigrants?

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2831353/

    “In a related matter, what has our history said about immigration, crime, and incarceration in early twentieth-century America in regards to Eastern and Southern European immigrants?”

    ‘The importantest fact for any GoodWhite to remember is that Irishmen and Italians were rowdy troublemakers a hundred years ago; thus, white countries must abolish their borders.’ ~ Credo Corvinus

    You’re becoming a self-caricature like Tiny D*ck.

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  219. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    … it would be better if the expected pattern in UMC circles was undergraduate degree, then baby, then grad school/work. This would put age at 1st birth in the window of 22 to 25, which is a lot healthier and closer to what nature intended than 30+. I don’t know how we get there though.
     
    Thanks Jack--for link and topic. This is a hugely important "conversation". Ridiculously delayed marriage and child bearing of our "educated" classes is heading us toward a dysgenic disaster.

    Personally i'd be happy just to see the graph shift to the middle between those two (non-college and college) bumps in the 2016 graph--with lots of first babies coming in the mid/late 20s. With proper direction a woman should by then have enough "know thyself" under her belt to determine the sort of guy she wants and land him while she still has her looks and is offering "young and ripe" sex appeal in return. And a first baby for a college grad at 26 or 27 still gives her time to have a relatively big family if so motivated, which is what we need to turn around dysgenic fertility.

    As for fixes:

    #1 is obvious -- end immigration.
    Stop jacking up the pressure on jobs, housing, schools, traffic ... Steve's affordable family formation. Don't do that and everything else is pointless. We're headed toward being an "Asian" nation in terms of crowding but made up of whites, latins, blacks.

    #2 change the narrative.
    And not just correcting the messaging around "the meaning of life", "what's important", "what makes women happy". Also need to restablish the notion that people belong to a nation and civilization. That they are part of something bigger--and that something is wonderful. That by building a family they are extending Western civilization--the greatest civilization in human history.
    (Sorry Chinese, Indians ... that's just the way it is.)

    This is probably the toughest job of all. We need to give Hollyweird the bums' rush and build a new one. New media. New academia. This is a much bigger job that even 1945 in Germany. It's not just physical rubble but intellectual/cultural rubble we must cart off, dump and rebuild.


    Those two essentially fix the problem. But i think there are some useful technocratic steps as well.

    #3 improve and shortern "education"
    Make residential college optional/irrelevant. On-line instruction. Exams where kids can show they can read, write, reason, do algebra, read and interpret graphs, do basic stats, demonstrate basic historical and cultural knowledge and demonstrate knowledge of particular degreed disciplines.

    Folks pursuing advanced technical education who really need to be in the lab, or are really going to pursue ivory tower careers can go on to "university".

    There are so many "wins" here it's ridiculous:
    -- kids get through it faster and on to adult life
    -- kids can have a real "goal" worth pursuing during their high school years; teenage wheel spinning can be reigned in
    -- end/mitigate the "good school" rat race
    -- end the Asian SAT cramming nonsense
    -- better teaching; (the Teaching Company and like courses are better than typical college instruction)
    -- end/mitigate the leftist indoctrination nonsense; (The fact based nature of most of what's asked significantly reduces their lattitude and when employers can actually see what "learning" occurred the value of the A in greivance history 301 is much reduced. In fact, kids who take the grievance studies 301 exam might find employers are much *less* interested in them.)
    -- dramatically lower the cultural salience of Harvard and the like
    -- put a lot of leftist--useless eater--academics out to pasture and make them get useful jobs as barristas or stocking shelves at Walmart, etc.
    and
    -- end of mammoth "send kids to college" expense, greatly reduces parental concern about affording a child or another child; should immediately boost college educated couples fertility

    #4 ... hmm ... ok, so excited about #3 that i forgot my #4.


    Anyway this is a fixable problem, but the gist of what it requires is a nation that self-confidently loves itself and ergo cares about reproducing itself. If you don't have that no amount of technocratic tweaking is going to fix it.

    Who are you to tell people when to have babies and when to go to grad school?

    Are you writing of all races or just Whites? Just what we need, millions more black and brown potential thugs.

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  220. Rosie says:
    @AnotherDad
    Rosie you've pushed this "teenagers bodies aren't ready" nonsense before, but the age effect from 18 into the mid-20s is basically non-existent. Even the link you tossed up last time showed that the "teenage pregnancy" effect was absolutely miniscule--an once of birthweight. (I was surprised how minimal it was. There was a big effect--several onces--only with those who had a 2nd teen pregnancy which is accounted for by the huge selection effect that those are girls who are really incompetent clueless bozos.)

    Women in their late teens are perfectly ready for pregnancy--if they have the requisite weight, nutrition, etc. Under Malthusian pressure this often hasn't been the case in the past, but when the nutrition is there--they have babies just fine. (My wife's mom had her first kid at 19. It wasn't at all rare. Heck look at that graph in Jack's NYT article--even back in the dark ages of 1980 … not that rare!)

    Even by your own argument: Let's say we agree that a woman's peak fertility physically is sometime in her early mid-20s--say 24. Does that mean she is most desirable at 24? Not really. Not if you're thinking long term, as in marriage. You'd want to have her *before* her peak fertility and be impregnating her all through her period of peak fertility. Now for the typical hit-and-run black guy as in the disgusting cover pic on your article--sure. Ok, makes sense. Knock that bitch up tonight and skedaddle. But for build-a-family white guys, your biology argument--which i basically agree with--would suggest attraction to women right as they *enter* their best years of fertility which are something like 19-29.

    Rosie you’ve pushed this “teenagers bodies aren’t ready” nonsense before, but the age effect from 18 into the mid-20s is basically non-existent.

    Back off. You don’t need to take this tone with me.

    Women in their late teens are perfectly ready for pregnancy–if they have the requisite weight, nutrition, etc. Under Malthusian pressure this often hasn’t been the case in the past, but when the nutrition is there–they have babies just fine. (My wife’s mom had her first kid at 19. It wasn’t at all rare. Heck look at that graph in Jack’s NYT article–even back in the dark ages of 1980 … not that rare!)

    I don’t doubt that women in their late teens are by and large physically ready for pregnancy, but they are not emotionally or socially ready for motherhood. The fact that your Wife’s mom had her first kid at 19 doesn’t mean sh!t. Can’t boys sire children at twelve?

    Even by your own argument: Let’s say we agree that a woman’s peak fertility physically is sometime in her early mid-20s–say 24. Does that mean she is most desirable at 24?

    Actually yes, that would stand to reason. If you are a prehistoric male at high risk of early death in battle with game or human rivals, your best bet is to choose a partner at peak fertility, and under no circumstances would it be adaptive to impregnate teenagers when they are still at an elevated risk of birth complications. That would be seriously damaging to group fitness.

    FWIW, I’m not just assuming that women in their thirties are most attractive. I produced a study that actually so indicates. So I don’t know what you’re getting all pissy with me about. I was merely inquiring about Jack’s source so I could take a closer look at the data.

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    BTW, AD, I'm not particularly bothered about 18 year olds having babies, but if you'll notice, Jack stated that the most attractive age would be lower but for legal restrictions. That was kind of creepy.
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  221. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    "Yeah, the government bulldozed the compound."

    Shades of Sandy Hook. Anyone else think it passing strange when they demolished Sandy Hook Elementary three weeks after "Adam Lanza" "shot" "952 children" or whatever the official death toll was?

    Skepticism is a luxury we can no longer afford in these fraught times.

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  222. Rosie says:
    @Rosie

    Rosie you’ve pushed this “teenagers bodies aren’t ready” nonsense before, but the age effect from 18 into the mid-20s is basically non-existent.
     
    Back off. You don't need to take this tone with me.

    Women in their late teens are perfectly ready for pregnancy–if they have the requisite weight, nutrition, etc. Under Malthusian pressure this often hasn’t been the case in the past, but when the nutrition is there–they have babies just fine. (My wife’s mom had her first kid at 19. It wasn’t at all rare. Heck look at that graph in Jack’s NYT article–even back in the dark ages of 1980 … not that rare!)
     
    I don't doubt that women in their late teens are by and large physically ready for pregnancy, but they are not emotionally or socially ready for motherhood. The fact that your Wife's mom had her first kid at 19 doesn't mean sh!t. Can't boys sire children at twelve?

    Even by your own argument: Let’s say we agree that a woman’s peak fertility physically is sometime in her early mid-20s–say 24. Does that mean she is most desirable at 24?
     
    Actually yes, that would stand to reason. If you are a prehistoric male at high risk of early death in battle with game or human rivals, your best bet is to choose a partner at peak fertility, and under no circumstances would it be adaptive to impregnate teenagers when they are still at an elevated risk of birth complications. That would be seriously damaging to group fitness.

    FWIW, I'm not just assuming that women in their thirties are most attractive. I produced a study that actually so indicates. So I don't know what you're getting all pissy with me about. I was merely inquiring about Jack's source so I could take a closer look at the data.

    BTW, AD, I’m not particularly bothered about 18 year olds having babies, but if you’ll notice, Jack stated that the most attractive age would be lower but for legal restrictions. That was kind of creepy.

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    No, it’s biology.

    Attraction isn’t the most important factor thankfully.
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  223. kissinger says:
    @Richard of Melbourne
    A few observations from ground zero:

    1. Mayors of municipalities in Australia have very little practical importance. Municipalities have no responsibilities for law enforcement, or education, or health care. Their key functions are zoning, garbage collection and road maintenance. In short, they barely register for the vast majority of citizens (property developers excepted), and local government elections are a snooze-fest.

    2. The vast majority of Melburnians know that the mayors' comments are bullshit. We have had a serious problem with African crime for a number of years now and nothing the "goodwhite" local pols say will change that view. Despite this the mayors' positions are not in jeopardy because hardly anyone gives a toss about local government (see point 1).

    3. Observable African crime is concentrated in a few (but highly visible) streams, which makes the overall crime stats look less scary than the reality. (It hardly needs pointing out to Steve's readers that Africans aren't a major concern for our fraud squads, for instance.) Their specialties include "home invasions" (charged as "aggravated burglary") which usually involve a small group smashing its way into a suburban home and terrifying the occupants. A particular aim of these invasions is to force the residents to hand over car keys. Other favourites of our African brothers are violent robberies of jewellery stores and carjackings. Many (probably most) of these crimes are committed by under-18s who get slaps on the wrist by the Children's Court and almost always are bailed pending trial. There aren't a large number of these crimes, but they have a big psychological impact on the community.

    4. Statistics of African crime are seriously understated as the only relevant criterion for which stats are collected is birthplace (stats are not collected for perps' race) and nowadays many (probably most) of the African crims were born in Australia. So the Australian-born Africans' crimes get counted as "Australian" rather than "African" in the published stats. Despite this, some crimes show Africans over-represented by a factor of around 100.

    5. Another favoured crime of Africans in Melbourne is rowdy and destructive parties (not at their own homes but at AirBNB places rented using stolen credit cards). It pisses off (and scares) the neighbours (a few of whom get beaten up when they challenge the interlopers), results in serious damage to the properties, but seldom results in arrests (let alone convictions) for the offenders.

    6. On that last point: A feature of African crime in Melbourne is the softly-softly attitude to it by the Victoria Police (law enforcement is a State government responsibility). It is an amusing feature of law enforcement in Victoria that more than once the cars of the riot squad have been smashed up by rowdy Africans, and yet the riot squad have a policy of avoiding making arrests in these situations. Note that these are well-protected and armed police with specialist training in dealing with violent mobs, not some hapless local beat cops.

    7. In November we will have a State election and many Melburnians are itching to throw out the socialist Labor government that presides over this debacle. Yet the opinion polls still have the Labor Party as favourites to win the election, God help us.

    In November we will have a State election and many Melburnians are itching to throw out the socialist Labor government that presides over this debacle. Yet the opinion polls still have the Labor Party as favourites to win the election, God help us.

    Seems like you guys are getting what you are voting for.

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  224. Rosie says:
    @Anon
    So these women are suppose to have babies by artificial insemination and raise them by themselves? No men and fathers involved

    And how many White children do you have? 2 probably as you pontificate about women should go out and get pregnant all by themselves and raise the kids without fathers.

    So these women are suppose to have babies by artificial insemination and raise them by themselves? No men and fathers involved

    There is a widespread view on the Right that men are just dying to have huge broods of children, but alas women are so selfish they just can’t find a willing helpmeet.

    I don’t know where this idea comes from.

    One thing alt-Right men never seem to question is ABC (artificial birth control). I think they like being able to spill their seed without giving us children.

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  225. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Tyrion 2
    That is so crazy on the face of it I can only assume the bloke came across like the kind of bozo who, upon being released, would immediately lead the US security services to further accomplices.

    Everybody’s saying it’s a “red team,” which is certainly possible, but I cannot dispel the possibility that our judiciary is out of control. Last time a female judge was in the news it was because she decided that letting aggrieved parties (to include people that were not part of the lawsuit) line up and issue death and rape threats to the convicted man for several days was consistent with our laws and traditions.

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  226. @Anthony Wayne
    O/T We have all enjoyed the summer “news” season’s hot trend of treating cell phone videos of “Beckys” acting purportedly racist, or saying things that are purportedly racist as national if not international headline news. All good fun in a the name of turning out the vote. Unfortunately, August has brought on a new slew of viral videos of racist women — only these are Connies, not Beckys.

    https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1029054132295020544

    Could the Future be fracturing faster than expected? Some are calling for an out and out boycott of Asian-owned shops in the Community.

    “A small child walked out w/ a keychain – she took it back.
    He punched her in the face”

    After she struck him in the throat. Self-defense. Good for him.

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  227. @Anonymous
    “We stand together to say that we value the contribution of these residents, deeply appreciate the diversity of culture and experience they bring to our cities,” City of Moreland Mayor John Kavanagh said. …“

    What unique value do Africans bring to an established white society? Who exactly appreciates their diversity? As Steve points out, whites are physically afraid of Africans, and why not? Any encounter, even the most benign one, can result in humiliation, severe physical injury, or death. There are countless news stories and YouTube videos of whites who have been physically assaulted or killed by Africans for merely knocking on car windows, arguing over a parking space, or simply sitting too close in a crowded subway train. And blacks evince pack animal behavior so if one incapacitates a victim, others will join in the assault up to the point of murdering someone lying unconscious in the street. They are the pit bulls of the human breed. Nobody wants them around because they are dangerously unpredictable.

    As Steve points out, whites are physically afraid of Africans, and why not?

    Africans have a psychological advantage in a confrontation in that they don’t concern themselves with the consequences of violence. The prospect of going to jail doesn’t seem to worry them. They also often don’t maintain proportionality in their response–in a situation where an angry verbal response or even a small shove might be appropriate, they’ll deliver a deathblow or a fatal stab or gunshot wound.

    Meanwhile, as a white man, I consider factors such as the proportionality of violence and the possibility of going to jail if I overreact.

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    The prospect of going to jail doesn’t seem to worry them.
     
    For many it's probably an upgrade in living standards.
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  228. @Barnard
    OT: Woke ESPN on intergender pro wrestling. They want to know, does it empower women or promote domestic violence? With 170 fans at the event this reporter covered, this is obviously an important story.

    http://www.espn.com/espnw/feature/24364018/intergender-wrestling-equality-women-violence-them?addata=espn:frontpage

    Andy Kaufman was way ahead of the curve on this one and the women decided they didn’t care for it.

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  229. syonredux says:
    @Corvinus
    "But Corvinus instead gaslights the froggies, telling them that, hey, you must be mistaken about the temperature of the water in the pot in which you sit, namely your community."

    No "gas lighting" on my part, just providing "hate facts".

    No “gas lighting” on my part, just providing “hate facts”.

    No, dear fellow. In your case, they are “love facts”….direct from the Ministry of Truth….

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    Why does everyone feel compelled to talk to our party minder all of a sudden?
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  230. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Corvinus
    "Knowing what you must know, as a reader of this blog, about the extraordinarily high per capita rates of crime committed by people of African descent everywhere from Australia to Brazil to Europe to the U.S., what’s your best argument for why countries ought to welcome large numbers of African immigrants?"

    I would say first you need to show some work regarding your claim.

    In a related matter, what has our history said about immigration, crime, and incarceration in early twentieth-century America in regards to Eastern and Southern European immigrants?

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2831353/

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    Setting aside the fact that you are replying to Le Corbeau (lashes, wet noodle, et cetera), the success of memory holing is one of the tragedies of our time, especially the memory holing of major cultural events that almost everyone witnessed. Everyone of a certain age remembers the transition of the mafia, from being an awful racist conspiracy theory for which there was no evidence, to being the coolest topic in pop culture and an undoubted fact. At that time, the fact that racism and provability had been used to shut people up was frequently referenced. Such a demonstration of accepted, coordinated, and moralistic lying would surely be a healthy thing for a growing consumer of mass media to absorb, especially the part about truth coming out in the end.
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  231. Ragno says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    Man, it's getting to be where you'd better go see the world really soon or there will be no point. It's not just the castles in Germany, cafes in France, ruins and cathedrals in Italy, strange flora and fauna Downunder, etc. It's the people and cultures that lots of us have gone and partaken of that made trips overseas special.

    Why leave the suburbs of Detroit or Chicago to go to any of these places if it's gonna feel like you are downtown, where you don't go much .... for a damn good reason?

    Do they have "refugees" in the Galapagos Islands, does anyone know? Maybe that's where we'll go. It's all turtles nowadays anyway. It's turtles all the way down.

    Achmed old man, a lot of us are – sadly….truly sadly – wayyy ahead of you.

    The only reasons to travel, besides seeing family of course – culture and history and a brief but blessed time-out from one’s own constant environment – ceased to be some time ago. Now you can spin a globe, close your eyes, hold out your finger… and anywhere it lands, dollars to drachmas, is just one more flat tire in darktown.

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  232. Ragno says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Boo hoo

    Cry me a river

    No one cares about your stupid exclusionary civilization. The only reason you have these "wonderful" castles and catherdrals is because you STOLE FROM PEOPLE OF COLOR

    No one wants to look at pale pasty mayonnaise. The sooner we are gone the better

    We are going to create new and better more inclusive institutions and foundations

    The sooner we are gone the better….

    By ironic coincidence, now that Tiny done stepped in it and outed hisself as one more self-loathing white man in blackface, we can at last hurl all the hate-crazed invective at him we care to.

    If only he was worth the effort.

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  233. J.Ross says: • Website
    @RudyM
    It certainly smells funny. Smells like the FBI, specifically. The group's connection to someone linked to the 1993 WTC bombing already sets off alarms. Maybe this group wasn't supposed to be stopped so soon.

    On the other hand, I don't suspect any deep state (to be lazy about it) hand in the release of the suspects. That's just New Mexico.

    The FBI had a string of fake terror busts where they rat-f’d harmless idiots with FBI-supplied weapons and plans. Every one of these fake investgations that went before a real judge with real legal protection for the accused resulted in a bad day for the FBI; their record in the star chamber was better.
    And I am sick to death of this refuted nonsense about letting people go to get the big fish. It didn’t work with gangs or drugs and it doesn’t work here, and it just happens to overlap perfectly with what a corrupted agency would do and say. This was the plot of the first episode of the Sopranos and it’s invoked like a prayer in every interview, like this is the only strategy they know, so good thing they’re always repeating it, that way they won’t forget. As as discussed earlier, gangs break when you enforce the law and thrive when you go after the big fish. What will these people say when the big fish turns out to be a Gulf State princeling? Oh, that’s right, they’ll say and do nothing.
    But it’s Russian hackers who are attacking our faith in unelected unaccountable national bureaucracies whose agents retain their clearances when they depart to lucrative private sector work.

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  234. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1019486781899722754?s=21

    Setting aside the fact that you are replying to Le Corbeau (lashes, wet noodle, et cetera), the success of memory holing is one of the tragedies of our time, especially the memory holing of major cultural events that almost everyone witnessed. Everyone of a certain age remembers the transition of the mafia, from being an awful racist conspiracy theory for which there was no evidence, to being the coolest topic in pop culture and an undoubted fact. At that time, the fact that racism and provability had been used to shut people up was frequently referenced. Such a demonstration of accepted, coordinated, and moralistic lying would surely be a healthy thing for a growing consumer of mass media to absorb, especially the part about truth coming out in the end.

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  235. L Woods says:
    @Jack D
    Sherilynn Fenn was quite the stunner in her younger days but nowadays she has really hit the wall. Recently I read that the peak age of desirability for women on online dating sites is 18 (it would probably be younger except for the law). It's all downhill after that. No wonder so many older women are bitter.

    Lol — look who was triggered like clockwork.

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  236. @Simon
    CotF?

    That was my reaction until I gave it a few minutes thought. It would be considerate of commenters not to use abbreviations without spelling it out the first time. I saw one here the other day I never could figure out and Google was no help.

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  237. CJ says:
    @Simon
    Jennifer Lynch went on to make an extremely creepy movie, Surveillance, on what appears to be a favorite subject of hers, serial killers. Every character in it is thoroughly unpleasant, as is the movie itself -- bloody but also curiously smirky. I wish David Lych hadn't attached his name to it as executive producer, but I guess that's what one does for one's daughter.

    From an interview with Vice Magazine:

    After so many years of being away from filmmaking, how did you get the opportunity to make Surveillance?

    Such a long story. The quick version is that I had been producing short films and doing a lot of writing and had a great writer’s group with a bunch of friends and I was looking to get back to doing stuff. One of the guys in my group asked me to read this script he’d written, so I asked him, “Do you want me to read this as a friend or as a writer?” He said “Both.” It was a script about witches and it had some interesting ideas in it, but I had some notes, which pissed him off a little bit. I got the response, “So what would you fucking do with it?” So I said, “Well, I’d do this” and so I wrote Surveillance. People really liked the script but I wasn’t getting anywhere with it. Then one night my father called me and said “You’re the sickest bitch I know! You can’t end it this way.” And I said “Sure I can.” But it was at his beseeching that I wrote an alternate ending, which I shot but knew I would never keep in the film. He called a few months later and asked me “So what the hell is going on with your movie?” I said, “Zilch. I don’t know if it’s because it’s been 15 years or the subject matter or what, but people are scared.” And he said, “Alright, well, you’ll probably say ‘No’ to this, but what do you think would happen if I put my name on as executive producer?” And I said, “No fucking way. You don’t think I get enough shit for being your daughter in the first place?” But he said, “I really like this movie and I want to see it get made. We’ll do an experiment. We’ll put my name on the cover as an executive producer and we’ll just see what happens.” Within 24 hours, I had offers. It was the most disgusting but amazing thing ever. It’s ridiculous how suddenly legitimizing a name like that can be. So I went and made the film, went back and showed it to him, asked if I could use a song, he said “Yes,” and thus was born Surveillance.

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    Sounds like another entry in the genre 'fear and disgust of beta males'. (Lol, read the article intro and classify the author.)
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  238. @Corvinus
    "Recently I read that the peak age of desirability for women on online dating sites is 18 (it would probably be younger except for the law). It’s all downhill after that. "

    Let me guess, you got that information from Roissy. Pro tip --> The peak age of desirability for men and women is generally in their 20's, with both genders hitting a "wall" perhaps in their 30's, if various factors like diet, exercise, genetics, and other habits are taken into account. Although, men and women generally make their own determination as to what they personally believe is "desirable".
    Ask your significant other.

    Let me guess, you got that information from Roissy. Pro tip –> The peak age of desirability for men and women is generally in their 20′s, with both genders hitting a “wall” perhaps in their 30′s, if various factors like diet, exercise, genetics, and other habits are taken into account. Although, men and women generally make their own determination as to what they personally believe is “desirable”.
    Ask your significant other.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/style/dating-apps-online-men-women-age.html

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    You link to the New York Times, a Fake News site according to the Alt Right and Donald Trump? LOL.

    Anyways, you do realize that the headline is misleading...and the lede is buried. The researchers had focused on a host of factors for desirability, including age, education, physical attractiveness, and attitudes. ONE result was that older men desire younger women. But what they found was that "we present a network measure of desirability in dating that is based on mate-seeking behavior rather than subjective personal qualities such as attractiveness. We find that, while some mate seekers do pursue partners of similar average desirability to themselves, the vastmajority of the online dating population we study tend to reach up the hierarchy toward more desirable partners. At the same time, this aspirational mate pursuit is calibrated to one’s own desirability: On average, people pursue partners who are roughly 25% more desirable than they themselves are."
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  239. Rosie says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    As Steve points out, whites are physically afraid of Africans, and why not?

    Africans have a psychological advantage in a confrontation in that they don't concern themselves with the consequences of violence. The prospect of going to jail doesn't seem to worry them. They also often don't maintain proportionality in their response--in a situation where an angry verbal response or even a small shove might be appropriate, they'll deliver a deathblow or a fatal stab or gunshot wound.

    Meanwhile, as a white man, I consider factors such as the proportionality of violence and the possibility of going to jail if I overreact.

    The prospect of going to jail doesn’t seem to worry them.

    For many it’s probably an upgrade in living standards.

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  240. Rosie says:
    @Barnard
    OT: Woke ESPN on intergender pro wrestling. They want to know, does it empower women or promote domestic violence? With 170 fans at the event this reporter covered, this is obviously an important story.

    http://www.espn.com/espnw/feature/24364018/intergender-wrestling-equality-women-violence-them?addata=espn:frontpage

    OT: Woke ESPN on intergender pro wrestling. They want to know, does it empower women or promote domestic violence?

    How could something that destigmatizes striking women possibly not domestic violence?

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  241. @the one they call Desanex
    From the Muscle Shoals movie (2013): the story of Aretha Franklin recording her first big hit, “I Never Loved a Man (The Way I Love You)” in Muscle Shoals. (Fame Studios producer Rick Hall died back in January.)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbA931UxX68

    Great film that.

    50 years of amnesia is exactly right.

    Fuck these SJW conmen.

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  242. @Harry Baldwin
    That was my reaction until I gave it a few minutes thought. It would be considerate of commenters not to use abbreviations without spelling it out the first time. I saw one here the other day I never could figure out and Google was no help.

    We’ll help.

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  243. @syonredux

    No “gas lighting” on my part, just providing “hate facts”.
     
    No, dear fellow. In your case, they are "love facts"....direct from the Ministry of Truth....

    Why does everyone feel compelled to talk to our party minder all of a sudden?

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  244. @Rosie
    BTW, AD, I'm not particularly bothered about 18 year olds having babies, but if you'll notice, Jack stated that the most attractive age would be lower but for legal restrictions. That was kind of creepy.

    No, it’s biology.

    Attraction isn’t the most important factor thankfully.

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    No, it’s biology.
     
    That's just it. I'm not sure that's true. Hence my skepticism of the information Jack cited. Note that I'm not saying teenage girls aren't attractive. The dispute is merely to the

    peak
     
    of attractiveness.

    Now I've heard about this from other sources, too. I'm not saying Jack is making it up. I'm just wondering about exactly how the study came to the conclusion that 18 year olds are most attractive.
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  245. CJ says:
    @peterike

    Knowing what you must know, as a reader of this blog, about the extraordinarily high per capita rates of crime committed by people of African descent everywhere from Australia to Brazil to Europe to the U.S.,

     

    Dave, how can you be so insensitive! Why, just glance through these most wanted pics from New York City. I mean, there's at least one white woman in the mix!

    https://crimestoppers.nypdonline.org/(X(1)S(ukpacv3isnir2w4wmi4hmoma))/?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1#/wanted

    Sorry, don't know how to make that link work. Cut and paste!

    Is this the link you wanted?

    https://crimestoppers.nypdonline.org/#/wanted

    I can’t find any white people on it at all.

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  246. Jack D says:
    @Corvinus
    "Recently I read that the peak age of desirability for women on online dating sites is 18 (it would probably be younger except for the law). It’s all downhill after that. "

    Let me guess, you got that information from Roissy. Pro tip --> The peak age of desirability for men and women is generally in their 20's, with both genders hitting a "wall" perhaps in their 30's, if various factors like diet, exercise, genetics, and other habits are taken into account. Although, men and women generally make their own determination as to what they personally believe is "desirable".
    Ask your significant other.

    Here is the study:

    http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/4/8/eaap9815.full.pdf

    There have been a number of stories about it in the popular press.

    https://metro.co.uk/2018/08/16/world-online-dating-women-peak-18-men-peak-50-7845823/

    I don’t read Roissy.

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    Ok so I took a look at the study. I read up till the Materials and Methods section. (Too much math after that. Is there anything noteworthy in there, res?)

    The problem I have with the claims about age at peak attractiveness is that it doesn't take account of the number of dating app users within striking distance if prospects at different ages. There are fewer women within striking distance of a 25 year old man than there are within striking distance of a 40 year old man. That doesn't mean 40 year old men are more attractive than 25 up year old men in the sense that men age like wine. IOW, I assume that youth, even for men, is more desireable than age, all else being equal, especially to young women.

    Something similar is probably happening with women. As we get older, there are fewer men in our target age groups. That doesn't mean we're less attractive at 22 than we were at 18. Interestingly, the most popular educational level for women was bachelors degree, controlling for age. Presumably, a woman does no harm to her marketability by waiting till her early twenties to find a mate so long as she is investing in herself as a companion during that time. This is a very welcome finding. Daniel Defoe would be proud.

    There were some other interesting tidbits, though, like this

    The distributions about this modal value, however, are noticeably skewed to the right, meaning that a majority of both sexes tend to contact partners who are more desirable than themselves on average—and hardly any users contact partners who are significantly less desirable. The curves are re- markably consistent across all four cities, with men and women on av- erage sending messages to potential partners who are 26 and 23% further up the rankings than themselves, respectively.
     
    And this...

    The most common (modal) behavior for both men and women is to contact members of the opposite sex who on average have roughly the same ranking as themselves, suggesting that people are relatively good judges of their own place in the desirability hierarchy.
     
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  247. slumber_j says:
    @nonam
    eight !!! Wow she birthed your mom very young.

    I don’t think that makes sense even as a joke.

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  248. Rosie says:
    @Desiderius
    No, it’s biology.

    Attraction isn’t the most important factor thankfully.

    No, it’s biology.

    That’s just it. I’m not sure that’s true. Hence my skepticism of the information Jack cited. Note that I’m not saying teenage girls aren’t attractive. The dispute is merely to the

    peak

    of attractiveness.

    Now I’ve heard about this from other sources, too. I’m not saying Jack is making it up. I’m just wondering about exactly how the study came to the conclusion that 18 year olds are most attractive.

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    Good Lord, what a mess. I meant to italicize "peak" not blockquote it.
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  249. Ed says:
    @J.Ross
    OT Is the GEACPS resurfacing? An innocent African boy who came to Japan to learn was cruelly sent home after he accidentally mistook a basketball game for a boxing match, as happens to us all. At least they were woke enough to fire the guy who got punched in the face (not an expert in Japanese law but I think he has significantly less chance of suing their pants off than would be the case here).

    An African high school exchange student punched a Japanese basketball referee in the face during a game. The Japanese did not charge him, but let him go home, and then fired the Japanese coach. Link:
     
    https://nextshark.com/exchange-student-sucker-punched-referee-japan-leaves-school-returns-home-country/

    What I found most impressive was the reaction of the school. They withdrew from future competition for several months, ending their hopes to make the playoffs. Could you imagine say Alabama forfeiting one game after one of their players has been arrested for armed robbery?

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    That sounds more like a Japanese reaction, and of a type we could stand to see more of here.
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  250. @J.Ross
    OT Is the GEACPS resurfacing? An innocent African boy who came to Japan to learn was cruelly sent home after he accidentally mistook a basketball game for a boxing match, as happens to us all. At least they were woke enough to fire the guy who got punched in the face (not an expert in Japanese law but I think he has significantly less chance of suing their pants off than would be the case here).

    An African high school exchange student punched a Japanese basketball referee in the face during a game. The Japanese did not charge him, but let him go home, and then fired the Japanese coach. Link:
     
    https://nextshark.com/exchange-student-sucker-punched-referee-japan-leaves-school-returns-home-country/

    It appears they fired the kid’s coach, not the referee who got punched.

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    My mistake.
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  251. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Ed
    What I found most impressive was the reaction of the school. They withdrew from future competition for several months, ending their hopes to make the playoffs. Could you imagine say Alabama forfeiting one game after one of their players has been arrested for armed robbery?

    That sounds more like a Japanese reaction, and of a type we could stand to see more of here.

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  252. J.Ross says: • Website
    @The Last Real Calvinist
    It appears they fired the kid's coach, not the referee who got punched.

    My mistake.

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  253. @J.Ross
    >beginning
    Years ago it was an understood thing that Australians were the biggest "piss-takers" on 4chan. They have a reputation as pranksters, site founder Christopher Poole identified them as the one thing he hated most, and their entire IP range has been banned. In the recent political upheaval I have felt intense closeness to this strange tribe of desert-bound alcoholics, who do not give their loyalty easily, but post in vast numbers. In a Second Amendment thread it is as likely to be an Australian as an American who corrects fallacies and explains the reasoning of things like god-given rights and not having arms in a centralized armory. You would think Hillsdale College or the Rutherfird Society had branches down under.

    Interesting comment. I’ve worked with/am friends with some Aussies, and they do have a harder edge than you’d expect from their cuddly Crocodile Dundee image.

    I agree that Australians are closest to Americans in terms of national character, or worldview.

    Unfortunately this also means that Australian leftie crazies pursue the latest woke causes with the same fanatical zeal as their US counterparts. You usually don’t see quite the same blinkered intensity in British SJWs, for example; they often retain a smirky, somewhat self-aware sense of humor (humour, I guess) that’s been burned right out of their colonial heirs. They’re more likely to pretend multicultural disasters simply aren’t happening (e.g. the sex slave rings) than to get up on their pulpits and preach the righteousness of their disastrous ideologies and policies.

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  254. BB753 says:
    @BB753
    Nigerians as gangsters is a stereotype all over Africa. You know, there's a lot of truth behind most stereotypes. I hear Nigerians aren't very popular among local Blacks in South Africa. It must be those dodgy Igbos, not those genius Wakandan Igbos we're lectured about here.

    My bad, it should read: “It must be those dodgy Yorubans, not those genius Wakandan Igbos we’re lectured about here.

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  255. Rosie says:
    @Jack D
    Here is the study:

    http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/4/8/eaap9815.full.pdf

    There have been a number of stories about it in the popular press.

    https://metro.co.uk/2018/08/16/world-online-dating-women-peak-18-men-peak-50-7845823/

    I don't read Roissy.

    Ok so I took a look at the study. I read up till the Materials and Methods section. (Too much math after that. Is there anything noteworthy in there, res?)

    The problem I have with the claims about age at peak attractiveness is that it doesn’t take account of the number of dating app users within striking distance if prospects at different ages. There are fewer women within striking distance of a 25 year old man than there are within striking distance of a 40 year old man. That doesn’t mean 40 year old men are more attractive than 25 up year old men in the sense that men age like wine. IOW, I assume that youth, even for men, is more desireable than age, all else being equal, especially to young women.

    Something similar is probably happening with women. As we get older, there are fewer men in our target age groups. That doesn’t mean we’re less attractive at 22 than we were at 18. Interestingly, the most popular educational level for women was bachelors degree, controlling for age. Presumably, a woman does no harm to her marketability by waiting till her early twenties to find a mate so long as she is investing in herself as a companion during that time. This is a very welcome finding. Daniel Defoe would be proud.

    There were some other interesting tidbits, though, like this

    The distributions about this modal value, however, are noticeably skewed to the right, meaning that a majority of both sexes tend to contact partners who are more desirable than themselves on average—and hardly any users contact partners who are significantly less desirable. The curves are re- markably consistent across all four cities, with men and women on av- erage sending messages to potential partners who are 26 and 23% further up the rankings than themselves, respectively.

    And this…

    The most common (modal) behavior for both men and women is to contact members of the opposite sex who on average have roughly the same ranking as themselves, suggesting that people are relatively good judges of their own place in the desirability hierarchy.

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  256. @AnotherDad

    The thing is communism was a political ideology that could be removed.
    The diversity commissars are moving in millions of “vibrants” every year into the west.
     
    Exactly. This is communism 2.0.

    Communism 1.0 was dreary and got hijacked by the natives and then tossed off.

    Communism 2.0 fixes all that--they keep the machine running and get rich; and the natives are balkanized and replaced so control can't be hijacked and their rule tossed off.

    Got to give it to them--it's clever.

    Got to give it to them–it’s clever.

    It’s diabolical, and I mean that literally.

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  257. Jack D says:
    @Rosie

    Sherilynn Fenn was quite the stunner in her younger days but nowadays she has really hit the wall. Recently I read that the peak age of desirability for women on online dating sites is 18 (it would probably be younger except for the law). It’s all downhill after that. No wonder so many older women are bitter.
     
    How did they measure "desireability"? That's not consistent with prior research. It would stand to reason that men would be most attracted to women around the age where birth complications decline. Otherwise, men would have a tendency to kill off their mates by impregnating them before their bodies are ready for childbirth.

    https://www.medicaldaily.com/age-aint-nothing-number-all-men-looking-love-prefer-women-mid-20s-due-high-fertility-rate-305502

    See the study:

    http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/4/8/eaap9815.full.pdf

    They have a somewhat complex (and I think reasonable) measure of desirability – the number of times you are contacted by people who are themselves sought after by people of the opposite sex.

    “The most popular individual in our four cities, a 30-year-old woman living in New York,
    received 1504 messages during the period of observation, equivalent to
    one message every 30 min, day and night, for the entire month.”

    {And men wonder why women don’t respond to their messages}

    But that person is not necessarily the most desirable if she is contacted mostly by losers whom other women are not interested in.

    Note that this is a study of online dating and not marriage so the incentives are somewhat different.

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    Note that this is a study of online dating and not marriage so the incentives are somewhat different.
     
    The automatic assumption is that people who do online dating mirror the general population. In other words, the characters in the movie "You've Got Mail" are held to be representative of the kind of people who do it. In reality, the population sets may be very different.
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  258. Jack D says:
    @AnotherDad

    … it would be better if the expected pattern in UMC circles was undergraduate degree, then baby, then grad school/work. This would put age at 1st birth in the window of 22 to 25, which is a lot healthier and closer to what nature intended than 30+. I don’t know how we get there though.
     
    Thanks Jack--for link and topic. This is a hugely important "conversation". Ridiculously delayed marriage and child bearing of our "educated" classes is heading us toward a dysgenic disaster.

    Personally i'd be happy just to see the graph shift to the middle between those two (non-college and college) bumps in the 2016 graph--with lots of first babies coming in the mid/late 20s. With proper direction a woman should by then have enough "know thyself" under her belt to determine the sort of guy she wants and land him while she still has her looks and is offering "young and ripe" sex appeal in return. And a first baby for a college grad at 26 or 27 still gives her time to have a relatively big family if so motivated, which is what we need to turn around dysgenic fertility.

    As for fixes:

    #1 is obvious -- end immigration.
    Stop jacking up the pressure on jobs, housing, schools, traffic ... Steve's affordable family formation. Don't do that and everything else is pointless. We're headed toward being an "Asian" nation in terms of crowding but made up of whites, latins, blacks.

    #2 change the narrative.
    And not just correcting the messaging around "the meaning of life", "what's important", "what makes women happy". Also need to restablish the notion that people belong to a nation and civilization. That they are part of something bigger--and that something is wonderful. That by building a family they are extending Western civilization--the greatest civilization in human history.
    (Sorry Chinese, Indians ... that's just the way it is.)

    This is probably the toughest job of all. We need to give Hollyweird the bums' rush and build a new one. New media. New academia. This is a much bigger job that even 1945 in Germany. It's not just physical rubble but intellectual/cultural rubble we must cart off, dump and rebuild.


    Those two essentially fix the problem. But i think there are some useful technocratic steps as well.

    #3 improve and shortern "education"
    Make residential college optional/irrelevant. On-line instruction. Exams where kids can show they can read, write, reason, do algebra, read and interpret graphs, do basic stats, demonstrate basic historical and cultural knowledge and demonstrate knowledge of particular degreed disciplines.

    Folks pursuing advanced technical education who really need to be in the lab, or are really going to pursue ivory tower careers can go on to "university".

    There are so many "wins" here it's ridiculous:
    -- kids get through it faster and on to adult life
    -- kids can have a real "goal" worth pursuing during their high school years; teenage wheel spinning can be reigned in
    -- end/mitigate the "good school" rat race
    -- end the Asian SAT cramming nonsense
    -- better teaching; (the Teaching Company and like courses are better than typical college instruction)
    -- end/mitigate the leftist indoctrination nonsense; (The fact based nature of most of what's asked significantly reduces their lattitude and when employers can actually see what "learning" occurred the value of the A in greivance history 301 is much reduced. In fact, kids who take the grievance studies 301 exam might find employers are much *less* interested in them.)
    -- dramatically lower the cultural salience of Harvard and the like
    -- put a lot of leftist--useless eater--academics out to pasture and make them get useful jobs as barristas or stocking shelves at Walmart, etc.
    and
    -- end of mammoth "send kids to college" expense, greatly reduces parental concern about affording a child or another child; should immediately boost college educated couples fertility

    #4 ... hmm ... ok, so excited about #3 that i forgot my #4.


    Anyway this is a fixable problem, but the gist of what it requires is a nation that self-confidently loves itself and ergo cares about reproducing itself. If you don't have that no amount of technocratic tweaking is going to fix it.

    Note that this is a widespread problem in Westernized countries (including Japan) – the average age at first child is similar in many other advanced countries. So there must be something about all of modernity and not just American culture that is influencing this (to the extent that modernity is not synonymous with American culture, which it is to a large extent ).

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  259. Rosie says:
    @Rosie

    No, it’s biology.
     
    That's just it. I'm not sure that's true. Hence my skepticism of the information Jack cited. Note that I'm not saying teenage girls aren't attractive. The dispute is merely to the

    peak
     
    of attractiveness.

    Now I've heard about this from other sources, too. I'm not saying Jack is making it up. I'm just wondering about exactly how the study came to the conclusion that 18 year olds are most attractive.

    Good Lord, what a mess. I meant to italicize “peak” not blockquote it.

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