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From NumbersUSA.

Commenter Lot says:

Kevin McCarthy of Bakersfield is the favorite to become the next House speaker. He is an amnesty advocate. This is important, because right now, today, the majority in the House, 60+ votes in the Senate, and the President all support amnesty. The only reason that it didn’t pass is the “Hastert Rule” that says the Speaker does not bring to vote bills that don’t have a majority of Republicans in support, even if it has the support of the majority of the whole House.

It isn’t a hard and fast rule though. …

Importantly, however, [Boehner] DID NOT do this with amnesty.

I.e., Boehner kept the Schumer-Rubio amnesty bottled up in the House by not calling it up for a vote, where it likely would have passed.

… Jason Chaffetz of Utah, who beat an amnesty supporter in a Republican primary (Chris Cannon), is running against McCarthy. …

McCarthy is quite near the single worst House Republican on immigration. In fact, he scores worse than many California Democrat congressmen.

As we’ve seen with Merkel’s Boner, eternal vigilance is the price of keeping your country. One bigshot can make one seemingly technical change and set off a flash mob Camp of the Saints. Or set you on a drip drip drip erosion. Or both.

 
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  1. When he reached the New World, Cortez burned his ships. As a result, his men were well motivated.
    And those were the days. Now they get to the New World and start burning the public treasury and there are the politicians offering new debt as hope. This is post-NAFTA America. We need more people to run the empty factories and what’s left of the farms into the ground. We can create new slums and open used car lots if we can find enough people to move to Detroit. That’ll create demand for agency jobs and produce more vouchers for food stuffs. Detroit could be made a NSZ with big banks and plastic cards issued. Great opportunity for bureaucrats with useless brother in laws in the fence business! Build a fence around it. Sell razor wire on contract basis. Rename it Detroit City: The Other DC! Build sports stadia and new slots parlors. Have sudsidized whorehouse to keep the trigger happy youths off the streets and out of the classrooms with automatic rifles. Rome had a Senate and it fell and we have a Senate and a House. Maybe with no Speaker and golden silence it won’t fall. The next Silver Tongued Devil will save US!

    “Like all Sacrifice Zones, this one has a fence around it, with yellow metal signs wired to it every few yards:
    SACRIFICE ZONE
    WARNING. The National Parks Service has declared
    this area to be a National Sacrifice Zone.
    The Sacrifice Zone Program was developed to manage
    parcels of land whose clean-up cost exceeds
    their total future economic value.
    And like all Sacrifice Zone fences, this one has holes in it and is partially torn down in places.
    Young men blasted out of their minds on natural and artificial male hormones must have some place to do their idiotic coming-of-age rituals.” SNOW CRASH

  2. amnesty is not gonna happen in 2015 or 2016. unless GOP wants to hand over nomination to donald j. trump.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    amnesty is not gonna happen in 2015 or 2016. unless GOP wants to hand over nomination to donald j. trump.
     
    Let's hope amnesty never happens. (But I'll take the nomination of Trump.)

    You make a good point: There is a welling majority that WILL react against any action by those with the megaphone that threaten our sovereignity.

    Do we have a country, or not?

    Chaffetz for Speaker!

    PS: It saddens me to have to go against a congressman from my birthplace, the San Joaquin Valley. There are many good people there, but this guy is a tool.
    , @Harry Baldwin

    amnesty is not gonna happen in 2015 or 2016. unless GOP wants to hand over nomination to donald j. trump.

     

    I find myself wondering to what lengths the PtB will go to keep Trump from being elected. If they can't locate video of him using the n-word or punching out his wife in an elevator, they may have to up the ante. Horse head in bed? Dead hooker in bed? Or will they use a Rocco Lampone to solve the problem?
  3. Absolutely zero chance I vote for Rubio. I am voting for Hillary over voting for Rubio. I’ve already upset at least one conservative friend for saying this. I asked the friend, what issues do you think Rubio is good on? No response. Because the answer is zero. It will be Bush’s 3rd term, from day one.

  4. McCarthy is quite near the single worst House Republican on immigration. In fact, he scores worse than many California Democrat congressmen.

    Well I imagine that’s why he’s the one chosen by Boehner to sit on the Iron Throne. So anyone other than McCarthy.

  5. We should not have McCarthy as Speaker. That being said, it would be very difficult to get any mass immigration bills out this year. They would have to go through the committee process, and they would be fought tooth and nail the whole way.

    • Replies: @SFG
    If we hold the line and keep pressuring Republicans, amnesty will make no further progress. Notice how the NYT keeps pushing for it and it keeps collapsing.
    , @Anonymous
    We don't change presidents until January of 2017. We cannot allow a process to start that might succeed before then, about a year and a quarter.
  6. @john marzan
    amnesty is not gonna happen in 2015 or 2016. unless GOP wants to hand over nomination to donald j. trump.

    amnesty is not gonna happen in 2015 or 2016. unless GOP wants to hand over nomination to donald j. trump.

    Let’s hope amnesty never happens. (But I’ll take the nomination of Trump.)

    You make a good point: There is a welling majority that WILL react against any action by those with the megaphone that threaten our sovereignity.

    Do we have a country, or not?

    Chaffetz for Speaker!

    PS: It saddens me to have to go against a congressman from my birthplace, the San Joaquin Valley. There are many good people there, but this guy is a tool.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    McCarthy, and the rest of the California Central Valley Republicans, will lose their seats forever, as soon as a few more cohorts of Mexican anchor babies turn 18. McCarthy ought to be leading the charge to repeal birthright citizenship. And yet he's not.

    The Stupid Party© indeed.
  7. Unless immigration can be framed as good for Iran or Putin and bad for Israel, the mainstream GOP is going to support it. That’s about the only thing that will trump the chamber of commerce, short of Trump himself.

  8. It’s an establishment job. You’re going to get an establishment person filling it. The establishment favors amnesty — on both sides of the aisle. So it will be no surprise when the next speaker favors amnesty.

  9. @john marzan
    amnesty is not gonna happen in 2015 or 2016. unless GOP wants to hand over nomination to donald j. trump.

    amnesty is not gonna happen in 2015 or 2016. unless GOP wants to hand over nomination to donald j. trump.

    I find myself wondering to what lengths the PtB will go to keep Trump from being elected. If they can’t locate video of him using the n-word or punching out his wife in an elevator, they may have to up the ante. Horse head in bed? Dead hooker in bed? Or will they use a Rocco Lampone to solve the problem?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    I find myself wondering to what lengths the PtB will go to keep Trump from being elected.
     
    I'm worried about a Sirhan Sirhan mysteriously getting close to him in our security state -- or mechanical failure in his perfectly maintained helicopter -- or a sudden illness in this robust, energetic fellow.

    Let them be on notice -- that we notice.

    (Whoever "they" are, if "they" even exist.)

    As for the usual MSM character assassinations, hooker videos and whatnot, the guy is immune to that. He has pre-disastered himself by being the character they would want to accuse him of being -- and lo and behold, the public likes it.

    This is the glass house approach to life I think we all might want to consider adopting in the post-privacy world. Maybe we all can move our personal Overton Windows over a little bit, in what we say and do publicly.

    Speaking of being pre-disastered, there is a wonderful scene in the Robin Williams movie, The World According to Garp:

    Looking for a home to buy, Garp is about to walk into a house with a real estate agent, when a small plane crashes into the roof. Garp tells the agent, "I'll take this house." The agent incredulously asks him why. Garp says, "It's been pre-disastered. Just think, what are the odds of that ever happening again?"

    (I know this scene isn't an exact analogy to what I am talking about, but I think the concept of a pre-disastered candidate is valid.)
    , @countenance
    My fear is that the media will turn up the eliminationist propaganda in hopes that some random nut pops out of the woodwork to do the job.

    https://countenance.wordpress.com/2015/07/26/heavy-weather-ahead-for-trump/
  10. Chaffetz’ father was married to Kitty Dukakis. Strange but true. Chaffetz is a Mormon convert.

    • Replies: @riches
    Considering what commenter Anon Annie chose not to include about Chaffetz, I think she should use the name "Afraid Annie."
    , @Olorin
    Also an ex-Reaganite ex-Republican...whose mother was Christian Scientist and dad was Jewish.

    His immigration record is fine. The rest of him creeps me out.
    , @Art
    "Chaffetz’ father was married to Kitty Dukakis. Strange but true. Chaffetz is a Mormon convert."

    Chaffetz's father is a Jew - Jason is 100% behind Zionist Israel - DA!

    Why did he come to power so quickly in congress - DA!

    AIPAC - DA!
  11. @Glaivester
    We should not have McCarthy as Speaker. That being said, it would be very difficult to get any mass immigration bills out this year. They would have to go through the committee process, and they would be fought tooth and nail the whole way.

    If we hold the line and keep pressuring Republicans, amnesty will make no further progress. Notice how the NYT keeps pushing for it and it keeps collapsing.

  12. How do you throw out these corrupt Republican Congresscritters?

    Just nominating Trump, will not fix a party that is rotten to the core and hates its base.

    Because the pernicious impact of the Open Borders mega donors in not just an inside the beltway Cuckservative problem. It’s at the state level in flyover country as well.

    Case in point, Southern Marion County/Indianapolis/Greenwood use to be the stomping grounds of Rep. Dan Burton, who despite his many faults, such as an overactive libido, was a true immigration patriot.

    Then 6 years ago folks in Perry Township, following the leadership of the local blogger “oneoldvet”, threw out an odious alcoholic Open Borders shill / Conservative Inc dimwit, BFF of Gov Mitch Daniels and former head of the Marion County Republican Party, named Mike Murphy as our state representative. Murphy was the long time favorite of the Bushies and the Indianapolis Star(Gannett) for replacing Dan Burton in Congress.

    The fallout was the state Republican party decided that the Reagan Democrats and Buchanan Republicans on Indy’s Southside would be better off in far far left Muslim Democratic nitwit Rep Andre Carson’s district. Today, the Republican party shows absolutely no interest in ever attempting to challenge Carson with a viable immigration patriot candidate. A candidate that could not only steal away some of the AA vote but would rally the same turnout that shocked the nation by helping to topple the Open Borders Republican Sen Richard Lugar in the 2012 primary after 36 years in office. Instead Indy’s Immigration Patriots should be encouraged to just stay home on next primary day so the then 74 year old Cuckservative Sen Dan Coats can be renominated in 2016.

    Thank God for Trump!!! Indiana patriots will be motivated next year!!! We just need primary challengers!!!

    This fall though, the Indiana’s Bush Republicans are still retaliating on Indianapolis’s white population by rolling over on their backs as the Democrats seem set to elect Clintonista Joe Hogsett, replacing the retiring Republican Greg Ballard, who the “Loyal Bushies” never supported, as Mayor. Hogsett’s whole campaign is literally to tear down 20,000+ plus abandoned residential and business properties in Marion County and replace them with Federally funded “affordable housing”. What could possibly go wrong? Hello, Section 8 Apocalypse!!! Indianapolis in a decade will be just another Milwaukee or North St Louis County. But hey, Indy’s decline will be the Chicago’s South Lake Shore real estate developers’ windfall. So it’s all good, for TWMNBN!!!!

    Meanwhile the Indiana Republican party has created apparently super safe seats for the uber Cuckservatives Rep. Susan Brooks and Rep. Todd Young out of what remained of Dan Burton’s old district in Hamilton County north of Indy(Brooks) and Johnson County South of Indy(Young). Hamilton County/Carmel and Johnson County/Greenwood are about as close as one has today as far as collar county Whitopias where the Bushies can still get away with their Open Borders policies before the locals wake up.

    Futhermore, Indiana’s Ultra NeoCon talk radio powerhouse WIBC(an Emmis Comunications station controlled by Jeff Smulyan) and its host Greg Garrison, a long time pal of Brooks and Young, make it just about impossible to mount primary challenges. In fact, so many folks were calling in to WIBC calling for the heads of both Brooks and Young after the Cromnibus vote last year , yours truly included, that WIBC no longer takes listener calls. WIBC, along with Alex Jones, another Emmis Communication’s property, is the definition of “controlled opposition” aka Hasbara. EMMIS means “Truth” in Yiddish/Hebrew by the way.

    Face it if you are White, and working and middle class, the Republican Party establishment hates you!!!!

    Stay pissed off and make a difference!!!

  13. @Harry Baldwin

    amnesty is not gonna happen in 2015 or 2016. unless GOP wants to hand over nomination to donald j. trump.

     

    I find myself wondering to what lengths the PtB will go to keep Trump from being elected. If they can't locate video of him using the n-word or punching out his wife in an elevator, they may have to up the ante. Horse head in bed? Dead hooker in bed? Or will they use a Rocco Lampone to solve the problem?

    I find myself wondering to what lengths the PtB will go to keep Trump from being elected.

    I’m worried about a Sirhan Sirhan mysteriously getting close to him in our security state — or mechanical failure in his perfectly maintained helicopter — or a sudden illness in this robust, energetic fellow.

    Let them be on notice — that we notice.

    (Whoever “they” are, if “they” even exist.)

    As for the usual MSM character assassinations, hooker videos and whatnot, the guy is immune to that. He has pre-disastered himself by being the character they would want to accuse him of being — and lo and behold, the public likes it.

    This is the glass house approach to life I think we all might want to consider adopting in the post-privacy world. Maybe we all can move our personal Overton Windows over a little bit, in what we say and do publicly.

    Speaking of being pre-disastered, there is a wonderful scene in the Robin Williams movie, The World According to Garp:

    Looking for a home to buy, Garp is about to walk into a house with a real estate agent, when a small plane crashes into the roof. Garp tells the agent, “I’ll take this house.” The agent incredulously asks him why. Garp says, “It’s been pre-disastered. Just think, what are the odds of that ever happening again?”

    (I know this scene isn’t an exact analogy to what I am talking about, but I think the concept of a pre-disastered candidate is valid.)

  14. Off topic. Christian Lives don’t matter.

    From Bill Donohue

    The following media outlets were among those that reported on this story but never mentioned that Christians were singled out:

    ABC World News Tonight
    CBS Evening News
    NBC Nightly News
    PBS News Hour
    New York Times
    USA Today
    Slate
    Salon
    Gawker
    Daily Beast
    Yahoo
    Huffington Post
    Associated Press [This accounts for why so many papers across the nation made no mention of Christians.]

    If African Americans or Muslims had been singled out, President Obama would have gone ballistic, Al Sharpton would be calling for street rallies, and CAIR would be asking for congressional investigations. But because Christians are being cherry picked for murder, there is no call to arms. Indeed, many major media outlets aren’t even telling the truth. It’s obvious—”Christian Lives Don’t Matter”—either here or abroad.

  15. I found the Garp movie scene. It’s slightly different from how I remembered it, but the idea is the same. Here it is, in the interest of accuracy (and humor):

  16. @Harry Baldwin

    amnesty is not gonna happen in 2015 or 2016. unless GOP wants to hand over nomination to donald j. trump.

     

    I find myself wondering to what lengths the PtB will go to keep Trump from being elected. If they can't locate video of him using the n-word or punching out his wife in an elevator, they may have to up the ante. Horse head in bed? Dead hooker in bed? Or will they use a Rocco Lampone to solve the problem?

    My fear is that the media will turn up the eliminationist propaganda in hopes that some random nut pops out of the woodwork to do the job.

    https://countenance.wordpress.com/2015/07/26/heavy-weather-ahead-for-trump/

  17. @Anonymous Annie
    Chaffetz' father was married to Kitty Dukakis. Strange but true. Chaffetz is a Mormon convert.

    Considering what commenter Anon Annie chose not to include about Chaffetz, I think she should use the name “Afraid Annie.”

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    Why don't you? Can't you look up stuff on the internet?
  18. OT but Steve have you looked at how many of the mass shootings have a racial motivation? The few I can think of that don’t are the Columbine, Sandy Hook, and Aurora, CO shootings.

    Otherwise we have the half-moroccan killer of blonde sorority girls in Santa Barbara, the radical muslim targeting white military men at Fort Hood, the hispanic american targeting (again) white military men at Fort Hood (2014), the black muslim snipers attacking whites in Washington DC, the black newsman murdering white colleagues in Roanoake, the half-black student targeting white Christians in Roseburg, and the white student targeting black church members in South Carolina. I’m sure to be missing a few, as I’m often not up on mainstream news.

    As usual, racial strife is essential to understanding American dysfunction. European countries with gun culture and widespread ownership (Switzerland, Finland) don’t have these problems.

    • Replies: @Antonymous
    More OT: I should add how perverse media reporting is, that while whites are disproportionately victims, not shooters, the media narrative whitewashes biracial shooters, ignores the race of clearly black/non-white killers, and emphasizes six ways to Sunday the few racially motivated white-on-x killings. There was also I believe a "disgruntled black employee" in the northeast who murdered nine or so white colleagues -- this story is so down the memory hole I can't even find it with basic search terms.
    , @ben tillman

    I’m sure to be missing a few, as I’m often not up on mainstream news.
     
    Like the one that just happened in Oregon? How strange that you omitted that one!
  19. @Glaivester
    We should not have McCarthy as Speaker. That being said, it would be very difficult to get any mass immigration bills out this year. They would have to go through the committee process, and they would be fought tooth and nail the whole way.

    We don’t change presidents until January of 2017. We cannot allow a process to start that might succeed before then, about a year and a quarter.

  20. @Antonymous
    OT but Steve have you looked at how many of the mass shootings have a racial motivation? The few I can think of that don’t are the Columbine, Sandy Hook, and Aurora, CO shootings.

    Otherwise we have the half-moroccan killer of blonde sorority girls in Santa Barbara, the radical muslim targeting white military men at Fort Hood, the hispanic american targeting (again) white military men at Fort Hood (2014), the black muslim snipers attacking whites in Washington DC, the black newsman murdering white colleagues in Roanoake, the half-black student targeting white Christians in Roseburg, and the white student targeting black church members in South Carolina. I’m sure to be missing a few, as I’m often not up on mainstream news.

    As usual, racial strife is essential to understanding American dysfunction. European countries with gun culture and widespread ownership (Switzerland, Finland) don't have these problems.

    More OT: I should add how perverse media reporting is, that while whites are disproportionately victims, not shooters, the media narrative whitewashes biracial shooters, ignores the race of clearly black/non-white killers, and emphasizes six ways to Sunday the few racially motivated white-on-x killings. There was also I believe a “disgruntled black employee” in the northeast who murdered nine or so white colleagues — this story is so down the memory hole I can’t even find it with basic search terms.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    You kidding? Omar (sp) Thornton is notorious among SteveHeads.
  21. Chaffetz sounds like a Jewish name.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    It is, look it up. I said he was a Mormon convert.
    , @snorlax
    Per Wikipedia, Chaffetz's father was Jewish and he was raised Jewish. His father was also previously married to Kitty Dukakis.
    , @anon
    He is indeed a halfie.
    , @Half Canadian
    Well, he was born/raised(?) a Jew, but converted to Mormonism. Is that enough to wash the Jew out of him?
  22. @Buzz Mohawk

    amnesty is not gonna happen in 2015 or 2016. unless GOP wants to hand over nomination to donald j. trump.
     
    Let's hope amnesty never happens. (But I'll take the nomination of Trump.)

    You make a good point: There is a welling majority that WILL react against any action by those with the megaphone that threaten our sovereignity.

    Do we have a country, or not?

    Chaffetz for Speaker!

    PS: It saddens me to have to go against a congressman from my birthplace, the San Joaquin Valley. There are many good people there, but this guy is a tool.

    McCarthy, and the rest of the California Central Valley Republicans, will lose their seats forever, as soon as a few more cohorts of Mexican anchor babies turn 18. McCarthy ought to be leading the charge to repeal birthright citizenship. And yet he’s not.

    The Stupid Party© indeed.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    This is exactly what the California Central Valley perpetually Republican farmers of my acquaintance are concluding.

    Oddly some seem to think they can move elsewhere to get away from the trend.

    I like to remind them they voted for Reagan, twice. And thought the amnesty was a great idea back then coz they all wanted cheaper labor.

    The Schadenfreude is no comfort.

    , @Crank
    I believe Hispanics already outnumber non-Hispanic whites in Bakersfield. So, McCarthy would be unelectable with that approach.
    , @Maus
    Of course not. I am from Bakersfield, or should I say Mexifornia. McCarthy was a protege of Bill Thomas. He is fiscally conservative, but fully committed to ensuring the flood of cheap labor to big agriculture. He knows the NAMS won't vote for him, but he'll lose the farmers if he fails to deliver hoards of ignorant Mexican field workers. Short-term thinking (two year election cycle) excludes any concern for the future left-of-center bias of anchor babies.
    , @Jefferson
    "McCarthy, and the rest of the California Central Valley Republicans, will lose their seats forever, as soon as a few more cohorts of Mexican anchor babies turn 18. McCarthy ought to be leading the charge to repeal birthright citizenship. And yet he’s not.

    The Stupid Party© indeed."


    Once The Democratic Party snatches Orange County away from The Republican Party in statewide and nationwide elections, than it will be the final nail in the coffin of the California branch of the GOP. Just turn off the lights and close all GOP campaigning offices/headquarters in the golden state the day Orange County turns as politically blue as Los Angeles County.

    Today a politician from The Communist Party USA has a higher chance of being elected governor of California than a Republican politician. You can blame The Gipper Ronald Reagan for that.

  23. Slightly OT, but feel free to use the flooding of the USA by mother nature’s hurricane Joaquin with the flooding of the USA by the man-made hurricane Joaquin. I am sure there is some symbolism in there.

    • Replies: @SFG
    In the sense that the name may have become more common with large-scale immigration, and thus more likely to be used as a hurricane name, yes.
  24. It’s like the GOP is sitting there, believing the Trump one-issue wave will go away, and it’s back to business as usual.

    I wonder if the GOP is like those other parties in the past that are now extinct—it’s leaders become entrenched in power, lose connection with the people, ignore the issues outside of what their lobbyists tell them are the issues, and then—-shockingly—the party gets replaced, out of no where.

    Immigration is proving to be more and more a cross-the-aisles kind of uniting issue that left and right regular folk agree on. It’s an elite v. prole issue, but as Charlie Daniels once sang, “there’s a whole lot more of us common folk/than there ever will be of you.”

  25. WhatEvvs [AKA "Anonymuss Annie"] says:
    @International Jew
    Chaffetz sounds like a Jewish name.

    It is, look it up. I said he was a Mormon convert.

  26. Given the demographics of Bakersfield, this should not be surprising.

  27. @International Jew
    McCarthy, and the rest of the California Central Valley Republicans, will lose their seats forever, as soon as a few more cohorts of Mexican anchor babies turn 18. McCarthy ought to be leading the charge to repeal birthright citizenship. And yet he's not.

    The Stupid Party© indeed.

    This is exactly what the California Central Valley perpetually Republican farmers of my acquaintance are concluding.

    Oddly some seem to think they can move elsewhere to get away from the trend.

    I like to remind them they voted for Reagan, twice. And thought the amnesty was a great idea back then coz they all wanted cheaper labor.

    The Schadenfreude is no comfort.

  28. @International Jew
    Chaffetz sounds like a Jewish name.

    Per Wikipedia, Chaffetz’s father was Jewish and he was raised Jewish. His father was also previously married to Kitty Dukakis.

  29. @Anonymous Annie
    Chaffetz' father was married to Kitty Dukakis. Strange but true. Chaffetz is a Mormon convert.

    Also an ex-Reaganite ex-Republican…whose mother was Christian Scientist and dad was Jewish.

    His immigration record is fine. The rest of him creeps me out.

    • Replies: @MC
    It's pretty simple, really. He went to BYU to play football, and like lots of other players he ended up converting.
  30. @International Jew
    Chaffetz sounds like a Jewish name.

    He is indeed a halfie.

  31. @iSteveFan
    Slightly OT, but feel free to use the flooding of the USA by mother nature's hurricane Joaquin with the flooding of the USA by the man-made hurricane Joaquin. I am sure there is some symbolism in there.

    In the sense that the name may have become more common with large-scale immigration, and thus more likely to be used as a hurricane name, yes.

  32. @International Jew
    Chaffetz sounds like a Jewish name.

    Well, he was born/raised(?) a Jew, but converted to Mormonism. Is that enough to wash the Jew out of him?

  33. Could you guys just shut up about Jews for once?

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  34. Chaffetz sounds like a Jewish name.

    Yes it does. I assumed it was, first time I heard it, and it’s been pinging my Jewdar ever since. Haven’t cared enough to check.

  35. @International Jew
    McCarthy, and the rest of the California Central Valley Republicans, will lose their seats forever, as soon as a few more cohorts of Mexican anchor babies turn 18. McCarthy ought to be leading the charge to repeal birthright citizenship. And yet he's not.

    The Stupid Party© indeed.

    I believe Hispanics already outnumber non-Hispanic whites in Bakersfield. So, McCarthy would be unelectable with that approach.

  36. @Anonymous Annie
    Chaffetz' father was married to Kitty Dukakis. Strange but true. Chaffetz is a Mormon convert.

    “Chaffetz’ father was married to Kitty Dukakis. Strange but true. Chaffetz is a Mormon convert.”

    Chaffetz’s father is a Jew – Jason is 100% behind Zionist Israel – DA!

    Why did he come to power so quickly in congress – DA!

    AIPAC – DA!

  37. @Olorin
    Also an ex-Reaganite ex-Republican...whose mother was Christian Scientist and dad was Jewish.

    His immigration record is fine. The rest of him creeps me out.

    It’s pretty simple, really. He went to BYU to play football, and like lots of other players he ended up converting.

  38. I know that there are a lot of commenters here who think that Mormons are theologically committed to higher immigration from Latin America. The fact that Chaffetz successfully knocked off Chris Cannon in a primary in probably the most devoutly Mormon part of Utah suggests that this narrative is a bit overrated, or at least outdated. My sense is that unchecked immigration was much more popular among Mormons in the 1990s, as it was among Republicans overall.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    Utah is the only state where ¡Jeb! leads in the polls, and Trump is doing horribly there.
  39. Lot starts with “Kevin McCarthy of Bakersfield…”

    Bakersfield? Derb usually goes to City-Data.com when he reads a city’s name that he know little about. Since I live in CA so I do know something about Bakersfield.

    But still, I take a look. From the City-Data pie chart Bakersfield is 47% hispanic, 36% white. The US as a whole is still about 62% white and 17% Hispanic. The GOP is looking to the future!

  40. WhatEvvs [AKA "Anonymuss Annie"] says:
    @riches
    Considering what commenter Anon Annie chose not to include about Chaffetz, I think she should use the name "Afraid Annie."

    Why don’t you? Can’t you look up stuff on the internet?

  41. @Antonymous
    More OT: I should add how perverse media reporting is, that while whites are disproportionately victims, not shooters, the media narrative whitewashes biracial shooters, ignores the race of clearly black/non-white killers, and emphasizes six ways to Sunday the few racially motivated white-on-x killings. There was also I believe a "disgruntled black employee" in the northeast who murdered nine or so white colleagues -- this story is so down the memory hole I can't even find it with basic search terms.

    You kidding? Omar (sp) Thornton is notorious among SteveHeads.

  42. @MC
    I know that there are a lot of commenters here who think that Mormons are theologically committed to higher immigration from Latin America. The fact that Chaffetz successfully knocked off Chris Cannon in a primary in probably the most devoutly Mormon part of Utah suggests that this narrative is a bit overrated, or at least outdated. My sense is that unchecked immigration was much more popular among Mormons in the 1990s, as it was among Republicans overall.

    Utah is the only state where ¡Jeb! leads in the polls, and Trump is doing horribly there.

    • Replies: @MC
    This most recent poll has it Carson then Trump in Utah, with Bush far behind:

    http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/dan-jones-associates-utahpolicy-com-22780

    That shows some under performance by Trump among Mormons, but they are more likely than most to be turned off by multiple divorces or simply un-Christian behavior. And he still gets 15%.

    Not saying immigration isn't somewhat more favored by Mormons, but it's an overblown talking point. Romney was the toughest candidate on immigration last time around.
  43. @International Jew
    McCarthy, and the rest of the California Central Valley Republicans, will lose their seats forever, as soon as a few more cohorts of Mexican anchor babies turn 18. McCarthy ought to be leading the charge to repeal birthright citizenship. And yet he's not.

    The Stupid Party© indeed.

    Of course not. I am from Bakersfield, or should I say Mexifornia. McCarthy was a protege of Bill Thomas. He is fiscally conservative, but fully committed to ensuring the flood of cheap labor to big agriculture. He knows the NAMS won’t vote for him, but he’ll lose the farmers if he fails to deliver hoards of ignorant Mexican field workers. Short-term thinking (two year election cycle) excludes any concern for the future left-of-center bias of anchor babies.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Of course not. I am from Bakersfield, or should I say Mexifornia. McCarthy was a protege of Bill Thomas. He is fiscally conservative, but fully committed to ensuring the flood of cheap labor to big agriculture. He knows the NAMS won’t vote for him, but he’ll lose the farmers if he fails to deliver hoards of ignorant Mexican field workers.
     
    The farmers *are* NAMs.
  44. @Antonymous
    OT but Steve have you looked at how many of the mass shootings have a racial motivation? The few I can think of that don’t are the Columbine, Sandy Hook, and Aurora, CO shootings.

    Otherwise we have the half-moroccan killer of blonde sorority girls in Santa Barbara, the radical muslim targeting white military men at Fort Hood, the hispanic american targeting (again) white military men at Fort Hood (2014), the black muslim snipers attacking whites in Washington DC, the black newsman murdering white colleagues in Roanoake, the half-black student targeting white Christians in Roseburg, and the white student targeting black church members in South Carolina. I’m sure to be missing a few, as I’m often not up on mainstream news.

    As usual, racial strife is essential to understanding American dysfunction. European countries with gun culture and widespread ownership (Switzerland, Finland) don't have these problems.

    I’m sure to be missing a few, as I’m often not up on mainstream news.

    Like the one that just happened in Oregon? How strange that you omitted that one!

  45. @Maus
    Of course not. I am from Bakersfield, or should I say Mexifornia. McCarthy was a protege of Bill Thomas. He is fiscally conservative, but fully committed to ensuring the flood of cheap labor to big agriculture. He knows the NAMS won't vote for him, but he'll lose the farmers if he fails to deliver hoards of ignorant Mexican field workers. Short-term thinking (two year election cycle) excludes any concern for the future left-of-center bias of anchor babies.

    Of course not. I am from Bakersfield, or should I say Mexifornia. McCarthy was a protege of Bill Thomas. He is fiscally conservative, but fully committed to ensuring the flood of cheap labor to big agriculture. He knows the NAMS won’t vote for him, but he’ll lose the farmers if he fails to deliver hoards of ignorant Mexican field workers.

    The farmers *are* NAMs.

  46. @snorlax
    Utah is the only state where ¡Jeb! leads in the polls, and Trump is doing horribly there.

    This most recent poll has it Carson then Trump in Utah, with Bush far behind:

    http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/dan-jones-associates-utahpolicy-com-22780

    That shows some under performance by Trump among Mormons, but they are more likely than most to be turned off by multiple divorces or simply un-Christian behavior. And he still gets 15%.

    Not saying immigration isn’t somewhat more favored by Mormons, but it’s an overblown talking point. Romney was the toughest candidate on immigration last time around.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Romney was the toughest candidate on immigration last time around.

    Only until he got the nomination, and then he dropped it like a hot rock, along with Kris Kobach, his border-control adviser. I feel that one of the pivotal points when Romney lost the election was during one of the debates when Obama accused him of calling for self-deportation, as if that was the most appalling thing he had ever heard of, and Romney just stood there with that sickly half smile on his lips. If he would have said, "You bet I support self-deportation! Why shouldn't the people who sneaked in here illegally leave the same way," he would have gotten the surge that Trump has.
    , @Jefferson
    "This most recent poll has it Carson then Trump in Utah, with Bush far behind:

    http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/dan-jones-associates-utahpolicy-com-22780

    That shows some under performance by Trump among Mormons, but they are more likely than most to be turned off by multiple divorces or simply un-Christian behavior. And he still gets 15%.

    Not saying immigration isn’t somewhat more favored by Mormons, but it’s an overblown talking point. Romney was the toughest candidate on immigration last time around."

    Glenn Beck the beta male cuckservative who cries more than most women, is a Mormon who basically believes Donald Trump is the devil or the anti-Christ. But I do not believe Glenn Beck speaks for most Mormon voters in the U.S.
  47. @MC
    This most recent poll has it Carson then Trump in Utah, with Bush far behind:

    http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/dan-jones-associates-utahpolicy-com-22780

    That shows some under performance by Trump among Mormons, but they are more likely than most to be turned off by multiple divorces or simply un-Christian behavior. And he still gets 15%.

    Not saying immigration isn't somewhat more favored by Mormons, but it's an overblown talking point. Romney was the toughest candidate on immigration last time around.

    Romney was the toughest candidate on immigration last time around.

    Only until he got the nomination, and then he dropped it like a hot rock, along with Kris Kobach, his border-control adviser. I feel that one of the pivotal points when Romney lost the election was during one of the debates when Obama accused him of calling for self-deportation, as if that was the most appalling thing he had ever heard of, and Romney just stood there with that sickly half smile on his lips. If he would have said, “You bet I support self-deportation! Why shouldn’t the people who sneaked in here illegally leave the same way,” he would have gotten the surge that Trump has.

    • Replies: @MC
    I agree, but bear in mind that he also vetoed benefits for illegals when he was gov. of MA. It was clearly something he'd been more conservative about in the past, perhaps because his own ancestors were run out of Mexico.

    I think 2012 may turn out to be the moment when a significant chunk of right wingers realized, "it just does not matter what we do or say, they will call us racist, even if we're as mild and inoffensive as Mitt Romney. Might as well embrace the hatred." Hence Trump.
  48. @Harry Baldwin
    Romney was the toughest candidate on immigration last time around.

    Only until he got the nomination, and then he dropped it like a hot rock, along with Kris Kobach, his border-control adviser. I feel that one of the pivotal points when Romney lost the election was during one of the debates when Obama accused him of calling for self-deportation, as if that was the most appalling thing he had ever heard of, and Romney just stood there with that sickly half smile on his lips. If he would have said, "You bet I support self-deportation! Why shouldn't the people who sneaked in here illegally leave the same way," he would have gotten the surge that Trump has.

    I agree, but bear in mind that he also vetoed benefits for illegals when he was gov. of MA. It was clearly something he’d been more conservative about in the past, perhaps because his own ancestors were run out of Mexico.

    I think 2012 may turn out to be the moment when a significant chunk of right wingers realized, “it just does not matter what we do or say, they will call us racist, even if we’re as mild and inoffensive as Mitt Romney. Might as well embrace the hatred.” Hence Trump.

  49. @MC
    This most recent poll has it Carson then Trump in Utah, with Bush far behind:

    http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/dan-jones-associates-utahpolicy-com-22780

    That shows some under performance by Trump among Mormons, but they are more likely than most to be turned off by multiple divorces or simply un-Christian behavior. And he still gets 15%.

    Not saying immigration isn't somewhat more favored by Mormons, but it's an overblown talking point. Romney was the toughest candidate on immigration last time around.

    “This most recent poll has it Carson then Trump in Utah, with Bush far behind:

    http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/dan-jones-associates-utahpolicy-com-22780

    That shows some under performance by Trump among Mormons, but they are more likely than most to be turned off by multiple divorces or simply un-Christian behavior. And he still gets 15%.

    Not saying immigration isn’t somewhat more favored by Mormons, but it’s an overblown talking point. Romney was the toughest candidate on immigration last time around.”

    Glenn Beck the beta male cuckservative who cries more than most women, is a Mormon who basically believes Donald Trump is the devil or the anti-Christ. But I do not believe Glenn Beck speaks for most Mormon voters in the U.S.

  50. @International Jew
    McCarthy, and the rest of the California Central Valley Republicans, will lose their seats forever, as soon as a few more cohorts of Mexican anchor babies turn 18. McCarthy ought to be leading the charge to repeal birthright citizenship. And yet he's not.

    The Stupid Party© indeed.

    “McCarthy, and the rest of the California Central Valley Republicans, will lose their seats forever, as soon as a few more cohorts of Mexican anchor babies turn 18. McCarthy ought to be leading the charge to repeal birthright citizenship. And yet he’s not.

    The Stupid Party© indeed.”

    Once The Democratic Party snatches Orange County away from The Republican Party in statewide and nationwide elections, than it will be the final nail in the coffin of the California branch of the GOP. Just turn off the lights and close all GOP campaigning offices/headquarters in the golden state the day Orange County turns as politically blue as Los Angeles County.

    Today a politician from The Communist Party USA has a higher chance of being elected governor of California than a Republican politician. You can blame The Gipper Ronald Reagan for that.

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