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Last month, the New York Times, Los Angeles Times, and other newspapers were playing up the “trend” of American work-from-home employees moving to Mexico for the low rent. For example, from the San Francisco Chronicle:

The Bay Area exodus has come to Mexico — is it hurting locals?

Ariana Bindman
July 21, 2022

… “As of right now, I don’t feel any desire to be in the Bay Area or the United States,” Reilly says, citing the ongoing slew of mass shootings, the overturning of Roe v. Wade and the relentless housing crisis.

… Since giving up her \$100,000 salary and moving to San Miguel [de Allende], a colonial city in Guanajuato, she says life has become significantly easier — and comparable in terms of quality.

The town of 70,000 reportedly has nearly 10,000 expats, many of whom are retirees — but that might all be changing.

San Miguel de Allende has a beautiful Spanish colonial core. It was an American artist colony since the 1930s (James Michener lived there before WWII) and bohemian WWII vets were pleased to find their GI Bill let them study there in the 1940s. In A Confederacy of Dunces, at Dorian Greene’s gay party in the French Quarter, the attendees keep saying that it’s such a fine party that everybody will have to flee to Mexico City in the morning. (In defense of the Mexican cops of the mid-century, while they may have turned a blind eye to a lot of American hi-jinks, when in 1945 decadent writer William Burroughs, playing William Tell at a party, shot his wife in the head, they really wanted to throw his ass in jail forever and were outraged when his Burroughs Adding Machine fortune and connections bought his way out of Mexico.)

But as America loosened up about sex and drugs from the 1960s onward, trendsetters saw less reason to flee to Mexico, and Mexico’s glamor faded over time.

In the year and a half Rivera has lived in Mexico, she says she’s met a lot of remote and temporary workers coming from the U.S.

Her friend, Brent Coulter, who works in tech and most recently worked at Meta, moved to San Miguel on a whim right when the pandemic hit. He currently splits his time between Mexico and Austin, and says that relocating made perfect sense.

“I FaceTimed a friend I knew from Burning Man, and he was smiling and radiant and I was gaunt and depressed in my Mission apartment that I was overpaying for and I asked him straight forward, ‘Why are you so happy and who gave you the license? And what are you doing with your life?’” Back in San Francisco, he was cooped up and paying \$4,000 per month, but now pays \$1,000 for a three-story home.

… However, he says that San Miguel is gentrifying and becoming more expensive. …

In 2021, the Mexico Daily Post reported that the town, which has been referred to as the “Mexican Disneyland,” panders to “gringos” while forcing out locals.

But there can be downsides to life south of the border:

This has something to do with cartels, of course.

Here’s an article on which cartel is attacking which, but I can’t make much sense out of it.

On the bright side, there’s only one legal gun store in all of Mexico, so how bad can gun violence be?

The decapitation violence, well, that’s a different story …

 
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  1. On the bright side, there’s only one legal gun store in all of Mexico, so bad can gun violence be?

    Fortunately, Mexico does not suffer the epidemic of “Gun Crime” that America does.

    It only has “Cutting People’s Heads Off Crime”.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Mr. Anon

    The latest thing is before decapitating rival cartel members, they have their backs branded with massive branding irons that provide a bit of terrifying and agonizing pain to the victim before being beheaded, plus a message for the rival cartel once the remains are found.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  2. Mexico is a high functioning place, so obviously we should take in millions of Mexicans to improve the crappy quality of life here.

    • Replies: @Bernard
    @AnotherDad


    Mexico is a high functioning place, so obviously we should take in millions of Mexicans to improve the crappy quality of life here.
     
    A marvelous insight, and California has certainly shown its truth to the rest of the nation.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @AnotherDad

    I refer you all to Mr. Fred Reed who extolls Mexico as a great place to retire to. I have no problem with that, just with the formerly great writer using half his columns to bash all things American in order to feel better about his move.

    My take from long ago and the stupidity of (recent) Fred Reed is after the tag:

    PS: Mr. Reed has written of the town he lives there. However, don't try to get a place there, Gringo - there's nothing for sale in Del Boca Vista!

    From here:

    [Fred Reed mode] America is decaying. There is no unified American culture anymore. There are lots of people mixed together from all over the world. There are bad ignorant Americans that are trying to prevent people from coming in from all over the world. Things don’t work well anymore. The new foreigners are better than those ignorant foreigner-hating Americans at working. America has changed for the worse from back when I was a kid when it was 90% white.

    Trump is a clown. The TV news that I watch all day is full of people criticizing the President for everything and making fun of him. TV sucks. Americans should see how bad their country is on the TV. Trump wants a wall built. Bad ignorant Americans want a border barrier built. Walls don’t work. Americans just don’t want we Mexicans to assimilate and exchange bodily fluids with them. Mexicans don’t want to assimilate and be part of the crass, new, sick American culture that I watch on TV. Mexican culture is better and we have great engineering schools and gated communities. Mexico is better, so Mexicans don’t want to go to America. There is no need for a wall, but they don’t work anyway. Bodily fluids! [/Fred Reed mode]

  3. anon[276] • Disclaimer says:

    If you’re going to Mexico and genuinely concerned about safety, you go to the city of Mérida, which is on the opposite side of the country from Tijuana, in Yucatan. It has an abundance of Mayans, which makes it a somewhat culturally distinct from the rest of Mexico.

    Mérida has been becoming more popular with foreigners the last few years. Especially female travelers. The downside is the weather– May-Sep is one long hot, humid rainy season.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @anon

    Speaking as someone who was robbed—by cops—in Mérida, I'll have to disagree with you there. It's probably better than the average Mexican city, but that ain't saying much.

    Replies: @anon, @RadicalCenter

    , @TWS
    @anon

    The Guatemalan Mayans I knew (they rarely spoke Spanish) were some of the most stabby, shooty, rapey, mofos I had the misfortune of running across. They also simply got a ticket home when arrested one even got a plane ticket when arrested for murder.

    I wouldn't live in a town of theirs if it was a castle with a moat full of crocodiles. And I have lived and worked my entire life on or right next to the roughest American reservations. Those little Mayans are alien in thought and deed.

    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    @anon

    My friends in Texas used to tell me that Ciudad Acuna is the nicest border town in Mexico. It’s right across the border from Del Rio, and unlike Laredo and Juarez is not adjacent to a heavily traveled US interstate, therefore avoiding must of the drug-related crime issues plaguing those cities. Of course I’m speaking of the situation about 10 years ago, so I have no idea how it is now.

  4. You know what this means, more asylum seekers. What’s the population of Mexico anyway?

  5. According to Unz, Hispanics are not violent. He has the statistics to prove it.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @anon


    According to Unz, Hispanics are not violent. He has the statistics to prove it.
     
    Read Mr Unz more carefully. His claims about Mexican pacificity relate only to those here in the US. They are tamed by the Magic Dirt of the US.
    It's a shame that the Dirt is racist in the selection of those on whom it will exercise its powers.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @OilcanFloyd
    @anon


    According to Unz, Hispanics are not violent. He has the statistics to prove it.
     
    I still don't understand how you can get reliable statistics on hispanic crime in the U.S to compare hispanic crime to the crime stats of whites in the U.S., when the actual number of hispanics in the country is unknown, the identities of many hispanics are fluid, hispanics have a no-snitch gang culture, and the U.S. government plays with the identity of hispanic criminals for ideological reasons.

    I think it's better to just accept the fact that hispanics are foreigners who bring down both the standard of living and the standard of life for actual Americans. Has anyone ever seen a demographic shift from white to hispanic result in better schools, neighborhoods, etc?

    Replies: @Anthony Aaron, @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @bomag
    @anon

    Ron Unz is just using modern argument techniques: Hispanics are not as violent as some people have suggested; since exaggeration has been uncovered, the whole case gets thrown out, and we have to adopt the default setting that everyone is equal in all things.

    , @Haxo Angmark
    @anon

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=9FAm8RmoJbA

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=aa2agiADM04

  6. @AnotherDad
    Mexico is a high functioning place, so obviously we should take in millions of Mexicans to improve the crappy quality of life here.

    Replies: @Bernard, @Achmed E. Newman

    Mexico is a high functioning place, so obviously we should take in millions of Mexicans to improve the crappy quality of life here.

    A marvelous insight, and California has certainly shown its truth to the rest of the nation.

  7. This violence could act to deter Americans from moving into Mexico and taking over.

    Similarly, does the tolerance by some American state, local, and federal officials of Black violence in some US municipalities help protect Black territories from being taken over by Mexicans, Asians, and Whites?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Anon

    How a dimwit like me would write it:

    "Similarly, does the tolerance by some American state, local, and federal officials of Black violence in some US municipalities help protect Black territories from being taken over by non-blacks?"

    How you, a galaxy brain writes it:

    "Similarly, does the tolerance by some American state, local, and federal officials of Black violence in some US municipalities help protect Black territories from being taken over by Mexicans, Asians, and Whites?"

  8. Still worth it for the donkey shows though.

    • Replies: @Legba
    @Anonymous

    True but if you've seen one donkey show, you've seen them all. Now, the cock fights are another ballgame!

    Replies: @Anthony Aaron

  9. Pinker needs to do an updated edition of The Better Angels of Our Nature with a new forward by Rob Zombie.

    Believe it or not, today we may be living in the most peaceful moment in our species’ existence. In his gripping and controversial new work, New York Times bestselling author Steven Pinker shows that despite the ceaseless news about war, crime, and terrorism, violence has actually been in decline over long stretches of history. Exploding myths about humankind’s inherent violence and the curse of modernity, this ambitious book continues Pinker’s exploration of the essence of human nature, mixing psychology and history to provide a remarkable picture of an increasingly enlightened world.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    The existence of this book, and its laudatory accolades from the New York Times, lead me to suspect that even during the most dramatic moments of the decline of the Roman Empire, relatively few people had any idea why it was happening.

  10. If you people weren’t such irredeemable racists you’d be able to appreciate the vibrant beauty of places like Tijuana. No matter, you won’t have to go there to do so, as our ruling class is bringing Tijuana to you!

    And we’re just getting started with Kinshasa.

    • Agree: bomag, Hangnail Hans
    • Replies: @Escher
    @HammerJack

    Is that Central Park after cinco de mayo?

    , @Bernard
    @HammerJack

    https://worldhousing.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Copy-of-_SRP2536.jpg

    One thing I can never quite understand. Even if you’re poor, what stops you from picking up a mess like this? Seems like a tremendous inconvenience to have to wade through it on your way into the “house”.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @kaganovitch

  11. @anon
    If you're going to Mexico and genuinely concerned about safety, you go to the city of Mérida, which is on the opposite side of the country from Tijuana, in Yucatan. It has an abundance of Mayans, which makes it a somewhat culturally distinct from the rest of Mexico.

    Mérida has been becoming more popular with foreigners the last few years. Especially female travelers. The downside is the weather-- May-Sep is one long hot, humid rainy season.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @TWS, @Hapalong Cassidy

    Speaking as someone who was robbed—by cops—in Mérida, I’ll have to disagree with you there. It’s probably better than the average Mexican city, but that ain’t saying much.

    • Thanks: bomag
    • Replies: @anon
    @HammerJack

    Thanks. I'm curious-- about how recent was that?

    Never been myself. Just sharing the (seemingly) widely agreed upon conventional wisdom...

    Replies: @Polistra

    , @RadicalCenter
    @HammerJack

    It’s better than the average AMERICAN city.

  12. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Pinker needs to do an updated edition of The Better Angels of Our Nature with a new forward by Rob Zombie.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqQuihD0hoI


    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81j7g4R1rtL.jpg


    Believe it or not, today we may be living in the most peaceful moment in our species' existence. In his gripping and controversial new work, New York Times bestselling author Steven Pinker shows that despite the ceaseless news about war, crime, and terrorism, violence has actually been in decline over long stretches of history. Exploding myths about humankind's inherent violence and the curse of modernity, this ambitious book continues Pinker's exploration of the essence of human nature, mixing psychology and history to provide a remarkable picture of an increasingly enlightened world.
     

    Replies: @HammerJack

    The existence of this book, and its laudatory accolades from the New York Times, lead me to suspect that even during the most dramatic moments of the decline of the Roman Empire, relatively few people had any idea why it was happening.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin, Polistra
  13. @anon
    According to Unz, Hispanics are not violent. He has the statistics to prove it.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @OilcanFloyd, @bomag, @Haxo Angmark

    According to Unz, Hispanics are not violent. He has the statistics to prove it.

    Read Mr Unz more carefully. His claims about Mexican pacificity relate only to those here in the US. They are tamed by the Magic Dirt of the US.
    It’s a shame that the Dirt is racist in the selection of those on whom it will exercise its powers.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Bill Jones

    Also, Mr. Unz has got the numbers age-corrected. Now, I do see the point of that for "the record", but when you live with them, age correction doesn't actually help. (It's more theft that I'm worried about - seen it already.)

    A big problem with Mr. Unz's calculations, in addition, is that he used stats from State prisoners (maybe Fed, too, but I can't remember). That means those who have not been arrested and booked will not show up in the data. Ever looked at a most-wanted poster lately? Mexican criminals have an easier time than any Americans do evading enforcement or even high-tailing it south of the border. Who was one Jose, next year is Hose-B.

    Replies: @Thomm

  14. I don’t know, Steve. Maybe it’s better to move to Tijuana now than wait to Tijuana to move to the US.

    How long until cartel violence starts for real in the U.S.?

    Oh, I forgot, according to Ron Unz and others, Mexican immigrants don’t increase crime, because the U.S. has a rule of law and a smart elite and magic dirt. That’s why San Diego is nice and Tijuana is not. Well, we’ll se for how long.

    • Agree: Polistra
  15. On the bright side, there’s only one legal gun store in all of Mexico, so how bad can gun violence be?

    Yeah … that’s that’s the only place where the bad guys can get their guns. Wait, what about the FBI?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @The Alarmist

    Eric Holder's always an option, in a pinch.

  16. @HammerJack
    If you people weren't such irredeemable racists you'd be able to appreciate the vibrant beauty of places like Tijuana. No matter, you won't have to go there to do so, as our ruling class is bringing Tijuana to you!

    https://worldhousing.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Copy-of-_SRP2536.jpg

    And we're just getting started with Kinshasa.

    Replies: @Escher, @Bernard

    Is that Central Park after cinco de mayo?

  17. Are the Mexican cartels still fighting? Seems like after around 40 years, they would have settled on a set of boundries and markets, and whats the point of burning public transport? Do the cartels control the Mexican version of Uber?

    • Replies: @Liger
    @watson79

    The profit motive might take a backseat to nihilism every now and then.

  18. @anon
    According to Unz, Hispanics are not violent. He has the statistics to prove it.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @OilcanFloyd, @bomag, @Haxo Angmark

    According to Unz, Hispanics are not violent. He has the statistics to prove it.

    I still don’t understand how you can get reliable statistics on hispanic crime in the U.S to compare hispanic crime to the crime stats of whites in the U.S., when the actual number of hispanics in the country is unknown, the identities of many hispanics are fluid, hispanics have a no-snitch gang culture, and the U.S. government plays with the identity of hispanic criminals for ideological reasons.

    I think it’s better to just accept the fact that hispanics are foreigners who bring down both the standard of living and the standard of life for actual Americans. Has anyone ever seen a demographic shift from white to hispanic result in better schools, neighborhoods, etc?

    • Replies: @Anthony Aaron
    @OilcanFloyd

    In cities like LA and Chicago, there has been significant demographic shift whereby the wetbacks replace the blacks … 'by any means necessary', and that often includes outright murder of the blacks.

    Having spent more than a decade living either in or immediately adjacent to some of LA's more fun barrios, I'd venture to say that the end result of wetbacks replacing blacks is about equal -- except that the wetbacks require more ESL classes in the schools - and there are far, far more of them than there are blacks.

    Replies: @Curle, @OilcanFloyd

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @OilcanFloyd

    Do you know any Mexicans?

    They have a proportion of losers and rowdies and goofs and criminals equal to British, French, Italians, Germans, &c. They are Euros. The ones I know from work and school and whatnot are totally bought into American dream, ladder of success. 100% all in.

    You are spewing ignoramus nonsense. Some other ignoramus can contradict me with percentages Aztec and Maya and Zapotec DNA.

    Mexico the country has institutional problems that are 80% being adjacent to America the government's bully b.s. policy behavior. Mexicans the people are fine.

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd

  19. @anon
    According to Unz, Hispanics are not violent. He has the statistics to prove it.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @OilcanFloyd, @bomag, @Haxo Angmark

    Ron Unz is just using modern argument techniques: Hispanics are not as violent as some people have suggested; since exaggeration has been uncovered, the whole case gets thrown out, and we have to adopt the default setting that everyone is equal in all things.

  20. @Anon
    This violence could act to deter Americans from moving into Mexico and taking over.

    Similarly, does the tolerance by some American state, local, and federal officials of Black violence in some US municipalities help protect Black territories from being taken over by Mexicans, Asians, and Whites?

    Replies: @AndrewR

    How a dimwit like me would write it:

    “Similarly, does the tolerance by some American state, local, and federal officials of Black violence in some US municipalities help protect Black territories from being taken over by non-blacks?”

    How you, a galaxy brain writes it:

    “Similarly, does the tolerance by some American state, local, and federal officials of Black violence in some US municipalities help protect Black territories from being taken over by Mexicans, Asians, and Whites?”

  21. @Mr. Anon

    On the bright side, there’s only one legal gun store in all of Mexico, so bad can gun violence be?
     
    Fortunately, Mexico does not suffer the epidemic of "Gun Crime" that America does.

    It only has "Cutting People's Heads Off Crime".

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    The latest thing is before decapitating rival cartel members, they have their backs branded with massive branding irons that provide a bit of terrifying and agonizing pain to the victim before being beheaded, plus a message for the rival cartel once the remains are found.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Mike Tre


    The latest thing is before decapitating rival cartel members, they have their backs branded with massive branding irons that provide a bit of terrifying and agonizing pain to the victim before being beheaded, plus a message for the rival cartel once the remains are found.
     
    Muy Vibrante!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  22. A friend of mine drove his car to Mexico and the cops stole it and most of the folks I knew said the exact same thing. Everybody knows when you drive to Mexico you always go in somebody else’s car.

  23. Is the g word for American whites hate speech?

  24. @HammerJack
    @anon

    Speaking as someone who was robbed—by cops—in Mérida, I'll have to disagree with you there. It's probably better than the average Mexican city, but that ain't saying much.

    Replies: @anon, @RadicalCenter

    Thanks. I’m curious– about how recent was that?

    Never been myself. Just sharing the (seemingly) widely agreed upon conventional wisdom…

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @anon

    You're giving advice to go there because of x, y, and z
    and you've never even been there ?

  25. @anon
    If you're going to Mexico and genuinely concerned about safety, you go to the city of Mérida, which is on the opposite side of the country from Tijuana, in Yucatan. It has an abundance of Mayans, which makes it a somewhat culturally distinct from the rest of Mexico.

    Mérida has been becoming more popular with foreigners the last few years. Especially female travelers. The downside is the weather-- May-Sep is one long hot, humid rainy season.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @TWS, @Hapalong Cassidy

    The Guatemalan Mayans I knew (they rarely spoke Spanish) were some of the most stabby, shooty, rapey, mofos I had the misfortune of running across. They also simply got a ticket home when arrested one even got a plane ticket when arrested for murder.

    I wouldn’t live in a town of theirs if it was a castle with a moat full of crocodiles. And I have lived and worked my entire life on or right next to the roughest American reservations. Those little Mayans are alien in thought and deed.

  26. @Bill Jones
    @anon


    According to Unz, Hispanics are not violent. He has the statistics to prove it.
     
    Read Mr Unz more carefully. His claims about Mexican pacificity relate only to those here in the US. They are tamed by the Magic Dirt of the US.
    It's a shame that the Dirt is racist in the selection of those on whom it will exercise its powers.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Also, Mr. Unz has got the numbers age-corrected. Now, I do see the point of that for “the record”, but when you live with them, age correction doesn’t actually help. (It’s more theft that I’m worried about – seen it already.)

    A big problem with Mr. Unz’s calculations, in addition, is that he used stats from State prisoners (maybe Fed, too, but I can’t remember). That means those who have not been arrested and booked will not show up in the data. Ever looked at a most-wanted poster lately? Mexican criminals have an easier time than any Americans do evading enforcement or even high-tailing it south of the border. Who was one Jose, next year is Hose-B.

    • Thanks: Bill Jones
    • Replies: @Thomm
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The fact that Tijuana Mexicans have much higher crime rates than California Mexicans (and Mexican-Americans) completely undermines the predictions in Ron Unz's 'Myth of Hispanic Crime' article series. That is why he has not updated them with 2020 Census data updates.

    Remember, the summary of his article series is this :

    “After adjusting for age brackets, gender balance, and US-born vs. foreign-born status, Mestizos from Mexico and Central America have a crime rate that is just 1.6x that of whites. 60% higher might seem like a lot, but when you consider that blacks have a crime rate 8x that of whites, the difference between 1x and 1.6x seems meaningless. When Hispanics replace blacks in a particular area, the entire aura of fear and menace in the air goes down a lot. Hence, over time, Mestizo Hispanics will converge up to whites in crime rates, IQ, height, tech entrepreneurship, patents filed, female waist-to-hip ratio, and more!”.

    Replies: @Curle

  27. On the bright side, there’s only one legal gun store in all of Mexico, so how bad can gun violence be?

    Nice one!

    BTW, mostly O/T, but a guy I worked with said Mexico City was all Kung-Flu-masked-up STILL! He was there within a month or so ago visiting family. He has a Mexican background, and I brought up that I’d thought in general (and seen it) that Latin Americans are more mellow about such silliness. Not in Mexico City apparently.

    ¡ Stupidity does not stop at the Rio Grande River!

    – Jorge E. Newman

  28. “… there’s only one legal gun store in all of Mexico.”

    Mexico has extremely restrictive laws regarding gun possession. There are only two stores in the entire country, DCAM near the capital, and OTCA, in Apodaca, Nuevo León. (Wikipedia)

    On the other hand, Mexico has very liberal machete laws…

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Anon7


    On the other hand, Mexico has very liberal machete laws…
     
    Who needs gun stores? You don't need a gun to behead someone.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

  29. @AnotherDad
    Mexico is a high functioning place, so obviously we should take in millions of Mexicans to improve the crappy quality of life here.

    Replies: @Bernard, @Achmed E. Newman

    I refer you all to Mr. Fred Reed who extolls Mexico as a great place to retire to. I have no problem with that, just with the formerly great writer using half his columns to bash all things American in order to feel better about his move.

    My take from long ago and the stupidity of (recent) Fred Reed is after the tag:

    PS: Mr. Reed has written of the town he lives there. However, don’t try to get a place there, Gringo – there’s nothing for sale in Del Boca Vista!

    [MORE]

    From here:

    [Fred Reed mode] America is decaying. There is no unified American culture anymore. There are lots of people mixed together from all over the world. There are bad ignorant Americans that are trying to prevent people from coming in from all over the world. Things don’t work well anymore. The new foreigners are better than those ignorant foreigner-hating Americans at working. America has changed for the worse from back when I was a kid when it was 90% white.

    Trump is a clown. The TV news that I watch all day is full of people criticizing the President for everything and making fun of him. TV sucks. Americans should see how bad their country is on the TV. Trump wants a wall built. Bad ignorant Americans want a border barrier built. Walls don’t work. Americans just don’t want we Mexicans to assimilate and exchange bodily fluids with them. Mexicans don’t want to assimilate and be part of the crass, new, sick American culture that I watch on TV. Mexican culture is better and we have great engineering schools and gated communities. Mexico is better, so Mexicans don’t want to go to America. There is no need for a wall, but they don’t work anyway. Bodily fluids! [/Fred Reed mode]

  30. @HammerJack
    @anon

    Speaking as someone who was robbed—by cops—in Mérida, I'll have to disagree with you there. It's probably better than the average Mexican city, but that ain't saying much.

    Replies: @anon, @RadicalCenter

    It’s better than the average AMERICAN city.

  31. Reilly says, citing the ongoing slew of mass shootings, the overturning of Roe v. Wade and the relentless housing crisis.

    Abortion on demand is apparently a top priority for Reilly, so she moves to a country where they’ve begun legalizing it less than a year ago. Wikipedia:

    Between 7 and 9 September 2021, in a unanimous 10 to 0 ruling, the Supreme Court of Justice decriminalised abortion in Coahuila and Sinaloa. Nevertheless, the effects of these rulings are broader as it sets a federal binding precedent: judges cannot sentence people to jail for either having or assisting in induced abortions, even if local legislations have not changed their criminal laws. The Supreme Court also established that local rules granting protections of “life from conception” were invalid and that access to legal abortions is a fundamental right. This historic landmark paves the path for advocates to challenge abortion restrictions in each state.

  32. “Mexico” is not just one place so that the fact that crime is very high in Tijuana doesn’t mean that they aren’t just great (for Americans and everyone else) in San Miguel Allende. This is like saying, don’t visit Boulder because things are dangerous in Baltimore.

    Generally speaking, the closer you are to the border, the shittier things are. At the border, the cartels compete for control of drug smuggling and people smuggling routes into El Norte. It’s not a coincidence that crime ridden Tijuana sits on the US border. A Leftist might blame America for the situation in Tijuana. The old saying is , “Poor Mexico, so far from God and so close to the United States.”

    Up in the mountains is also generally better than near the coast. There is really nothing for the cartels to do up in the mountains in the middle of nowhere. What are they going to do, steal the pottery from the art galleries in San Miguel? Break into art history lectures?

    • Agree: Jonathan Mason
  33. It would depend on how much you were saving on your mortgage by moving from San Diego to Tijuana.

    There would be many other factors to take into account like whether you were a single person, or a married person with children.

    Tijuana is certainly a place with a high level of crime, but it is not necessarily reflective of the whole of Mexico, or the whole of Central America, or the whole of South America.

    Even within the United States there are some places that have a reputation for more crime, and of course this affects the price of homes and therefore mortgage payments.

    The United States also has huge variations in the cost of living between states, and people will move between low income and high income states according to what is best for them and their family.

    With so many people now able to work from home on the internet, almost any place on the planet is a potential home and people will make the decisions based on many different criteria.

    But I wonder how many work-from-home Mexicans with internet-based jobs would prefer to live in the US?

    Prince Harry’s father-in-law lives in Rosarito, and I have to wonder if Steve is considering crossing the border too.

  34. anon[216] • Disclaimer says:

    Clearly, this neo-expat phenom will increasingly break down by class, with wealthier ones paying more and more to live in places like San Miguel, and poor ones stuck in and around Tijuana.

    Still, as Steve began to point out years ago, they will all move up about one class level just by moving to Mexico: his example was upper middle class American professionals living an upper class life in Mexico with horses and servants.

    [I feel America is a 4 class system: upper, upper middle, working and welfare. But of course that’s as much about behavior as about income. Wealth is where the two meet.]

  35. @HammerJack
    If you people weren't such irredeemable racists you'd be able to appreciate the vibrant beauty of places like Tijuana. No matter, you won't have to go there to do so, as our ruling class is bringing Tijuana to you!

    https://worldhousing.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Copy-of-_SRP2536.jpg

    And we're just getting started with Kinshasa.

    Replies: @Escher, @Bernard

    One thing I can never quite understand. Even if you’re poor, what stops you from picking up a mess like this? Seems like a tremendous inconvenience to have to wade through it on your way into the “house”.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Bernard

    Probably because you'd be picking up someone else's mess too, and you're fairly sure they wouldn't pick up yours.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @kaganovitch
    @Bernard

    Even if you’re poor, what stops you from picking up a mess like this?

    As me sainted grandma used to say " Es ist keine schande arm sein, es ist eine schande shmutzig sein" = "It is not shameful to be poor, it is shameful to be dirty."

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Truth

  36. @Anon7
    "... there’s only one legal gun store in all of Mexico."

    Mexico has extremely restrictive laws regarding gun possession. There are only two stores in the entire country, DCAM near the capital, and OTCA, in Apodaca, Nuevo León. (Wikipedia)
     
    On the other hand, Mexico has very liberal machete laws...

    Replies: @Rob McX

    On the other hand, Mexico has very liberal machete laws…

    Who needs gun stores? You don’t need a gun to behead someone.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Rob McX


    Who needs gun stores?
     
    We do in the People's Republic of Illinois, which has banned so-called "Ghost Guns," thanks to all the Cosmopolitans that literally infect us.

    Totally illegal: imagine if a person could not CREATE speech; the Cosmopolitans are now saying you can't MAKE a gun, but only get it from someone else!

    You can bet the Illinois courts will uphold this because ALL IL judges are anti-gun rights.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  37. @Rob McX
    @Anon7


    On the other hand, Mexico has very liberal machete laws…
     
    Who needs gun stores? You don't need a gun to behead someone.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    Who needs gun stores?

    We do in the People’s Republic of Illinois, which has banned so-called “Ghost Guns,” thanks to all the Cosmopolitans that literally infect us.

    Totally illegal: imagine if a person could not CREATE speech; the Cosmopolitans are now saying you can’t MAKE a gun, but only get it from someone else!

    You can bet the Illinois courts will uphold this because ALL IL judges are anti-gun rights.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Joe Stalin

    We do in the People’s Republic of Illinois, which has banned so-called “Ghost Guns,” thanks to all the Cosmopolitans that infect us. Totally illegal: imagine if a person could not CREATE speech; the Cosmopolitans are now saying you can’t MAKE a gun, but only get it from someone else!

    That's nuttin. Here in Joisey, the Attorney General has used the threat of 'fraud' prosecutions to ban the sale of mills that can be used to drill out %80 lowers.

    Replies: @Joe Paluka

  38. @anon
    If you're going to Mexico and genuinely concerned about safety, you go to the city of Mérida, which is on the opposite side of the country from Tijuana, in Yucatan. It has an abundance of Mayans, which makes it a somewhat culturally distinct from the rest of Mexico.

    Mérida has been becoming more popular with foreigners the last few years. Especially female travelers. The downside is the weather-- May-Sep is one long hot, humid rainy season.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @TWS, @Hapalong Cassidy

    My friends in Texas used to tell me that Ciudad Acuna is the nicest border town in Mexico. It’s right across the border from Del Rio, and unlike Laredo and Juarez is not adjacent to a heavily traveled US interstate, therefore avoiding must of the drug-related crime issues plaguing those cities. Of course I’m speaking of the situation about 10 years ago, so I have no idea how it is now.

  39. I live about 20 miles (as the crow flies) from Tijuana but haven’t visited the place in >30 years (nor do I plan to). Don’t have a health problem or accident in Baja California and find yourself in the clutches of the Mexican police or health system. I worked in a hospital that dealt with some unfortunates who had cosmetic surgeries or other surgeries in Baja. A couple I remember in particular: a woman who died of sepsis after a liposuction and a man who had a motorcycle accident with a leg injury that was treated in Mexico. The American surgeons opened up the surgical wound and found dirt, gravel, and vegetation in the wound. They had just sewn it up without cleaning the wound thoroughly. He died.

  40. @Mike Tre
    @Mr. Anon

    The latest thing is before decapitating rival cartel members, they have their backs branded with massive branding irons that provide a bit of terrifying and agonizing pain to the victim before being beheaded, plus a message for the rival cartel once the remains are found.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    The latest thing is before decapitating rival cartel members, they have their backs branded with massive branding irons that provide a bit of terrifying and agonizing pain to the victim before being beheaded, plus a message for the rival cartel once the remains are found.

    Muy Vibrante!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Mr. Anon


    Muy Vibrante!
     
    https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.2953720105.5122/ssrco,baseball_cap,product,FFFFFF:97ab1c12de,front_three_quarter,square,1000x1000-bg,f8f8f8.jpg
  41. Since giving up her \$100,000 salary and moving to San Miguel [de Allende], a colonial city in Guanajuato, she says life has become significantly easier — and comparable in terms of quality.

    So she decided to become a………..colonist. Or perhaps a gentrifier. Doesn’t sound very woke. Isn’t she ultimately just exploiting the locals?

    It’s funny that this woman left America because of mass-shootings and decamped to a country known for mass-beheadings.

    In defense of the Mexican cops of the mid-century, while they may have turned a blind eye to a lot of American hi-jinks, when in 1945 decadent writer William Burroughs, playing William Tell at a party, shot his wife in the head, they really wanted to throw his ass in jail forever and were outraged when his Burroughs Adding Machine fortune and connections bought his way out of Mexico.

    It’s too bad they weren’t able to lock that degenerate up for life before he had the chance to work his corrupt influence on a couple of generations of impressionable youth.

  42. A five mile wide DMZ between US & Mexico is way past due.

  43. Probably the best part of 2013 movie Kill Your Darlings was the mostly comic depiction of Burroughs.

    You might think a 2013 Hollywood movie would portray homosexuality in a positive way. Surprisingly not.

    Ginsberg is played as talented but personally weak and pathetic, David Kammerer as a creepy pedo stalker, and Lucien Carr as a pretentious and mentally ill dummy who cheats in college by feigning sexual interest in Kammerer and Ginsberg. Jack Kerouac, in reality bisexual, is portrayed as completely straight with a sexy girlfriend. Which may have been accurate when he was a Columbia student. Burroughs as a mooch off his father and disloyal to his friends.

    It was a pretty good movie overall. Nice depiction of mid-1940s NYC.

    • Thanks: BB753
    • Replies: @BB753
    @Pixo

    Thanks for the movie tip. I used to be a Kerouac fan in my late teens/ early twenties. Now I hate his writings and his nihilist outlook. Although his crew, Burroughs and Ginsberg, were far worse in all respects. Ginsberg was both a poor poet and a creepy pedo much like Burroughs.

    Replies: @Pixo

  44. @OilcanFloyd
    @anon


    According to Unz, Hispanics are not violent. He has the statistics to prove it.
     
    I still don't understand how you can get reliable statistics on hispanic crime in the U.S to compare hispanic crime to the crime stats of whites in the U.S., when the actual number of hispanics in the country is unknown, the identities of many hispanics are fluid, hispanics have a no-snitch gang culture, and the U.S. government plays with the identity of hispanic criminals for ideological reasons.

    I think it's better to just accept the fact that hispanics are foreigners who bring down both the standard of living and the standard of life for actual Americans. Has anyone ever seen a demographic shift from white to hispanic result in better schools, neighborhoods, etc?

    Replies: @Anthony Aaron, @Emil Nikola Richard

    In cities like LA and Chicago, there has been significant demographic shift whereby the wetbacks replace the blacks … ‘by any means necessary’, and that often includes outright murder of the blacks.

    Having spent more than a decade living either in or immediately adjacent to some of LA’s more fun barrios, I’d venture to say that the end result of wetbacks replacing blacks is about equal — except that the wetbacks require more ESL classes in the schools – and there are far, far more of them than there are blacks.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Anthony Aaron

    “whereby the wetbacks replace the blacks … ‘by any means necessary’, and that often includes outright murder of the blacks.”

    Oh, the long arm of 1930s redlining.

    , @OilcanFloyd
    @Anthony Aaron


    Having spent more than a decade living either in or immediately adjacent to some of LA’s more fun barrios, I’d venture to say that the end result of wetbacks replacing blacks is about equal — except that the wetbacks require more ESL classes in the schools – and there are far, far more of them than there are blacks.
     
    Which makes America a far, far worse place.
  45. Don’t Mexican cartels have the resources to make their own guns?

    If people in Afghanistan can do it, why not people in Mexico?

  46. @Pixo
    Probably the best part of 2013 movie Kill Your Darlings was the mostly comic depiction of Burroughs.

    You might think a 2013 Hollywood movie would portray homosexuality in a positive way. Surprisingly not.

    Ginsberg is played as talented but personally weak and pathetic, David Kammerer as a creepy pedo stalker, and Lucien Carr as a pretentious and mentally ill dummy who cheats in college by feigning sexual interest in Kammerer and Ginsberg. Jack Kerouac, in reality bisexual, is portrayed as completely straight with a sexy girlfriend. Which may have been accurate when he was a Columbia student. Burroughs as a mooch off his father and disloyal to his friends.

    It was a pretty good movie overall. Nice depiction of mid-1940s NYC.

    Replies: @BB753

    Thanks for the movie tip. I used to be a Kerouac fan in my late teens/ early twenties. Now I hate his writings and his nihilist outlook. Although his crew, Burroughs and Ginsberg, were far worse in all respects. Ginsberg was both a poor poet and a creepy pedo much like Burroughs.

    • Replies: @Pixo
    @BB753

    I also liked On the Road when I read it around age 19. AG is a bad person and overrated, though had some moderate talent.

    You will like the movie based on what you said. I’d give it 3.5 stars. The worst parts are the scenes they put in the official preview actually, which make it seem like it will be a Ginsberg hagiography. The best parts are the high quality recreation of 1940s NY and NJ and the less creative retelling of actual events.

  47. @Bernard
    @HammerJack

    https://worldhousing.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Copy-of-_SRP2536.jpg

    One thing I can never quite understand. Even if you’re poor, what stops you from picking up a mess like this? Seems like a tremendous inconvenience to have to wade through it on your way into the “house”.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @kaganovitch

    Probably because you’d be picking up someone else’s mess too, and you’re fairly sure they wouldn’t pick up yours.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Rob McX

    If you already live at the landfill, as they do in Manila, why bother?


    https://image.jimcdn.com/app/cms/image/transf/dimension=820x10000:format=jpg/path/s9524a0afdc5b40b0/image/i41a0c57a30ee89c9/version/1484570037/smokey-mountain-the-slums-of-manila-philippines-sabrina-iovino-justonewayticket-com.jpg

    https://childrenofthedump.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/living-on-a-dump.jpg

    Replies: @Polistra

  48. Cuenca, Ecuador is drawing Anglophile ex-pats with its climate and lower cost of living.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @SaneClownPosse


    Cuenca, Ecuador is drawing Anglophile ex-pats with its climate and lower cost of living.
     
    There is nothing in the slightest bit English about Cuenca, Ecuador except that it rains a lot.

    It is more like Switzerland, and is full of retired hippies from the US. Cost of living is low compared to most countries, but there are some nice places in Ecuador that are cheaper.
  49. @SaneClownPosse
    Cuenca, Ecuador is drawing Anglophile ex-pats with its climate and lower cost of living.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Cuenca, Ecuador is drawing Anglophile ex-pats with its climate and lower cost of living.

    There is nothing in the slightest bit English about Cuenca, Ecuador except that it rains a lot.

    It is more like Switzerland, and is full of retired hippies from the US. Cost of living is low compared to most countries, but there are some nice places in Ecuador that are cheaper.

  50. tldr here and with Rushdie we sent a message of weakness and everybody heard.

  51. Can accusations of ” brownlining” be far behind?

  52. @The Alarmist

    On the bright side, there’s only one legal gun store in all of Mexico, so how bad can gun violence be?
     
    Yeah ... that’s that’s the only place where the bad guys can get their guns. Wait, what about the FBI?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Eric Holder’s always an option, in a pinch.

  53. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Bill Jones

    Also, Mr. Unz has got the numbers age-corrected. Now, I do see the point of that for "the record", but when you live with them, age correction doesn't actually help. (It's more theft that I'm worried about - seen it already.)

    A big problem with Mr. Unz's calculations, in addition, is that he used stats from State prisoners (maybe Fed, too, but I can't remember). That means those who have not been arrested and booked will not show up in the data. Ever looked at a most-wanted poster lately? Mexican criminals have an easier time than any Americans do evading enforcement or even high-tailing it south of the border. Who was one Jose, next year is Hose-B.

    Replies: @Thomm

    The fact that Tijuana Mexicans have much higher crime rates than California Mexicans (and Mexican-Americans) completely undermines the predictions in Ron Unz’s ‘Myth of Hispanic Crime’ article series. That is why he has not updated them with 2020 Census data updates.

    Remember, the summary of his article series is this :

    “After adjusting for age brackets, gender balance, and US-born vs. foreign-born status, Mestizos from Mexico and Central America have a crime rate that is just 1.6x that of whites. 60% higher might seem like a lot, but when you consider that blacks have a crime rate 8x that of whites, the difference between 1x and 1.6x seems meaningless. When Hispanics replace blacks in a particular area, the entire aura of fear and menace in the air goes down a lot. Hence, over time, Mestizo Hispanics will converge up to whites in crime rates, IQ, height, tech entrepreneurship, patents filed, female waist-to-hip ratio, and more!”.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Thomm

    “The fact that Tijuana Mexicans have much higher crime rates than California Mexicans (and Mexican-Americans) completely undermines the predictions in Ron Unz’s ‘Myth of Hispanic Crime’ article series.”

    No. They have higher rates than the Mexican average as well. It is my understanding from past articles that crime rates vary considerably in Mexico depending on the year and whether the cartels are battling each other in an particular location in a given year. What you are measuring is warfare which is and should be distinguished from crime.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Bill Jones

  54. @Mr. Anon
    @Mike Tre


    The latest thing is before decapitating rival cartel members, they have their backs branded with massive branding irons that provide a bit of terrifying and agonizing pain to the victim before being beheaded, plus a message for the rival cartel once the remains are found.
     
    Muy Vibrante!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Muy Vibrante!

  55. @Rob McX
    @Bernard

    Probably because you'd be picking up someone else's mess too, and you're fairly sure they wouldn't pick up yours.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    If you already live at the landfill, as they do in Manila, why bother?

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thanks. Definitely like seeing into America's future.

  56. Maybe Moving from San Diego to Tijuana…

    From Saint James to Aunt Jane!

    San Miguel de Allende has a beautiful Spanish colonial core. It was an American artist colony since the 1930s (James Michener lived there before WWII) and bohemian WWII vets were pleased to find their GI Bill let them study there in the 1940s.

    The royalties from “I Wanna Drive the Zamboni”, which annoys resurfacers between periods in rinks across North America, afford its singer and composer Martin Zellar and his family a comfortable existence in San Miguel. That counts as art, I guess.

  57. @Anonymous
    Still worth it for the donkey shows though.

    Replies: @Legba

    True but if you’ve seen one donkey show, you’ve seen them all. Now, the cock fights are another ballgame!

    • Replies: @Anthony Aaron
    @Legba

    Why go to mexico to see them when you can go to east LA and see them -- and the dog fights -- and the drive-by shootings -- and the train lootings … and the destruction of the United States from within by people who commit crime with impunity.

  58. Maybe this sounded less supine in the original Spanish:

    “Today we are saying to the organized crime groups that are committing these crimes that Tijuana is going to remain open and take care of its citizens, and we also ask them to settle their debts with those who didn’t pay what they owe, not with families and hard-working citizens,” Caballero said during a press conference.

    If I were Caballero’s press agent, I’d rework it into something more robust:

    “Pay what you owe!,” Tijuana mayor demands of weaker, softer cartels.

  59. @Thomm
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The fact that Tijuana Mexicans have much higher crime rates than California Mexicans (and Mexican-Americans) completely undermines the predictions in Ron Unz's 'Myth of Hispanic Crime' article series. That is why he has not updated them with 2020 Census data updates.

    Remember, the summary of his article series is this :

    “After adjusting for age brackets, gender balance, and US-born vs. foreign-born status, Mestizos from Mexico and Central America have a crime rate that is just 1.6x that of whites. 60% higher might seem like a lot, but when you consider that blacks have a crime rate 8x that of whites, the difference between 1x and 1.6x seems meaningless. When Hispanics replace blacks in a particular area, the entire aura of fear and menace in the air goes down a lot. Hence, over time, Mestizo Hispanics will converge up to whites in crime rates, IQ, height, tech entrepreneurship, patents filed, female waist-to-hip ratio, and more!”.

    Replies: @Curle

    “The fact that Tijuana Mexicans have much higher crime rates than California Mexicans (and Mexican-Americans) completely undermines the predictions in Ron Unz’s ‘Myth of Hispanic Crime’ article series.”

    No. They have higher rates than the Mexican average as well. It is my understanding from past articles that crime rates vary considerably in Mexico depending on the year and whether the cartels are battling each other in an particular location in a given year. What you are measuring is warfare which is and should be distinguished from crime.

    • Agree: Jonathan Mason
    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @Curle

    The US isn't immune to cartel warfare, once sufficient numbers of the cartel live here, so it really doesn't matter to the people suffering if it is war violence or crime violence.

    Replies: @Curle

    , @Bill Jones
    @Curle


    What you are measuring is warfare which is and should be distinguished from crime.
     
    Only if war is legal in Mexico.

    The dead don't distinguish the two.

    Replies: @Curle

  60. @Anthony Aaron
    @OilcanFloyd

    In cities like LA and Chicago, there has been significant demographic shift whereby the wetbacks replace the blacks … 'by any means necessary', and that often includes outright murder of the blacks.

    Having spent more than a decade living either in or immediately adjacent to some of LA's more fun barrios, I'd venture to say that the end result of wetbacks replacing blacks is about equal -- except that the wetbacks require more ESL classes in the schools - and there are far, far more of them than there are blacks.

    Replies: @Curle, @OilcanFloyd

    “whereby the wetbacks replace the blacks … ‘by any means necessary’, and that often includes outright murder of the blacks.”

    Oh, the long arm of 1930s redlining.

  61. @anon
    @HammerJack

    Thanks. I'm curious-- about how recent was that?

    Never been myself. Just sharing the (seemingly) widely agreed upon conventional wisdom...

    Replies: @Polistra

    You’re giving advice to go there because of x, y, and z
    and you’ve never even been there ?

  62. @Reg Cæsar
    @Rob McX

    If you already live at the landfill, as they do in Manila, why bother?


    https://image.jimcdn.com/app/cms/image/transf/dimension=820x10000:format=jpg/path/s9524a0afdc5b40b0/image/i41a0c57a30ee89c9/version/1484570037/smokey-mountain-the-slums-of-manila-philippines-sabrina-iovino-justonewayticket-com.jpg

    https://childrenofthedump.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/living-on-a-dump.jpg

    Replies: @Polistra

    Thanks. Definitely like seeing into America’s future.

  63. When I read about this stuff it makes me quite happy that my maternal grandparents relocated to West Texas before my mom was born. It also makes me think Juneteenth celebrations should consist of US Blacks thanking their lucky stars. They could have been born in some shit hole African village instead of the USA.

    • Replies: @Nachum
    @Enemy of Earth

    Famous saying of Ali, when he got back from the Congo: "Thank God they put granddaddy on that boat!"

  64. @Curle
    @Thomm

    “The fact that Tijuana Mexicans have much higher crime rates than California Mexicans (and Mexican-Americans) completely undermines the predictions in Ron Unz’s ‘Myth of Hispanic Crime’ article series.”

    No. They have higher rates than the Mexican average as well. It is my understanding from past articles that crime rates vary considerably in Mexico depending on the year and whether the cartels are battling each other in an particular location in a given year. What you are measuring is warfare which is and should be distinguished from crime.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Bill Jones

    The US isn’t immune to cartel warfare, once sufficient numbers of the cartel live here, so it really doesn’t matter to the people suffering if it is war violence or crime violence.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Cloudbuster

    It matters if you are attempting an risk based analysis. The number you should look for is crime rates where gang related murders have been suppressed. If you want to measure white crime rates by Wild West standards and then compare them to Mexican standards from Tijuana, that would be an more reasonable standard. Even the rates of white crime generally vs crime in San Miguel de Allende would be closer to valid. How about Russian crime during the Yeltsin era as an comparator?

  65. Pluz – it’s much much better on the outside these days. There are plenty of places to escape to. Our forefathers voted with their feet. We can too.

    Would you rather have your kids grow up in the decaying society or a vibrant growing society ?

  66. @Curle
    @Thomm

    “The fact that Tijuana Mexicans have much higher crime rates than California Mexicans (and Mexican-Americans) completely undermines the predictions in Ron Unz’s ‘Myth of Hispanic Crime’ article series.”

    No. They have higher rates than the Mexican average as well. It is my understanding from past articles that crime rates vary considerably in Mexico depending on the year and whether the cartels are battling each other in an particular location in a given year. What you are measuring is warfare which is and should be distinguished from crime.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Bill Jones

    What you are measuring is warfare which is and should be distinguished from crime.

    Only if war is legal in Mexico.

    The dead don’t distinguish the two.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Bill Jones

    War is effectively legal in Mexico. As evidenced by the response of the Mexican authorities.

  67. @watson79
    Are the Mexican cartels still fighting? Seems like after around 40 years, they would have settled on a set of boundries and markets, and whats the point of burning public transport? Do the cartels control the Mexican version of Uber?

    Replies: @Liger

    The profit motive might take a backseat to nihilism every now and then.

  68. @Bernard
    @HammerJack

    https://worldhousing.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Copy-of-_SRP2536.jpg

    One thing I can never quite understand. Even if you’re poor, what stops you from picking up a mess like this? Seems like a tremendous inconvenience to have to wade through it on your way into the “house”.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @kaganovitch

    Even if you’re poor, what stops you from picking up a mess like this?

    As me sainted grandma used to say ” Es ist keine schande arm sein, es ist eine schande shmutzig sein” = “It is not shameful to be poor, it is shameful to be dirty.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @kaganovitch

    Is that German or Yiddish?

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    , @Truth
    @kaganovitch

    As my sainted Grandma used to say;

    dicker Junge auf Diät
    Versuchen Sie es nicht
    Ich werde deinen aufbocken
    Wie ein Plünderer in einem Aufstand!

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  69. @Joe Stalin
    @Rob McX


    Who needs gun stores?
     
    We do in the People's Republic of Illinois, which has banned so-called "Ghost Guns," thanks to all the Cosmopolitans that literally infect us.

    Totally illegal: imagine if a person could not CREATE speech; the Cosmopolitans are now saying you can't MAKE a gun, but only get it from someone else!

    You can bet the Illinois courts will uphold this because ALL IL judges are anti-gun rights.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    We do in the People’s Republic of Illinois, which has banned so-called “Ghost Guns,” thanks to all the Cosmopolitans that infect us. Totally illegal: imagine if a person could not CREATE speech; the Cosmopolitans are now saying you can’t MAKE a gun, but only get it from someone else!

    That’s nuttin. Here in Joisey, the Attorney General has used the threat of ‘fraud’ prosecutions to ban the sale of mills that can be used to drill out %80 lowers.

    • Replies: @Joe Paluka
    @kaganovitch

    Is it legal in Illinois to take your ghost gun to a fantasy football game?

  70. Things Mexico does better Than the USA.

    1. Healthcare. ok, maybe brain surgery is better in the USA.

    2. Build infrastruture. Yep, they are building roads, railroads airports and ports faster and at a fraction of the us cost.

    3. Meritocracy. Affirmative Action is legal but not as common in beanerlandia as in the USA. This is one reason i trust Mexican professionals more than US AA doctors and engineers.

    4. Elections. Mexico doesn’t have the level of corruption in elections. they have a rigorous system of voter IDs.

    5. Strong Families. Ok, they are stronger than the USA but headed in the same direction, the wrong direction.

    6. Fiscal conservatism. The national debt is something like 40% GDP while the us is 100% plus.

    7. Mexico is aligning itself with BRICS. It’s not tied to the sinking western ship, Captain Joe will go to the bottom without his beaner cabin boy.

    I live in mexico. Having said all the above my street is full of dog shit and holes. Also good tamales and tacos.

  71. @BB753
    @Pixo

    Thanks for the movie tip. I used to be a Kerouac fan in my late teens/ early twenties. Now I hate his writings and his nihilist outlook. Although his crew, Burroughs and Ginsberg, were far worse in all respects. Ginsberg was both a poor poet and a creepy pedo much like Burroughs.

    Replies: @Pixo

    I also liked On the Road when I read it around age 19. AG is a bad person and overrated, though had some moderate talent.

    You will like the movie based on what you said. I’d give it 3.5 stars. The worst parts are the scenes they put in the official preview actually, which make it seem like it will be a Ginsberg hagiography. The best parts are the high quality recreation of 1940s NY and NJ and the less creative retelling of actual events.

    • Thanks: BB753
  72. @OilcanFloyd
    @anon


    According to Unz, Hispanics are not violent. He has the statistics to prove it.
     
    I still don't understand how you can get reliable statistics on hispanic crime in the U.S to compare hispanic crime to the crime stats of whites in the U.S., when the actual number of hispanics in the country is unknown, the identities of many hispanics are fluid, hispanics have a no-snitch gang culture, and the U.S. government plays with the identity of hispanic criminals for ideological reasons.

    I think it's better to just accept the fact that hispanics are foreigners who bring down both the standard of living and the standard of life for actual Americans. Has anyone ever seen a demographic shift from white to hispanic result in better schools, neighborhoods, etc?

    Replies: @Anthony Aaron, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Do you know any Mexicans?

    They have a proportion of losers and rowdies and goofs and criminals equal to British, French, Italians, Germans, &c. They are Euros. The ones I know from work and school and whatnot are totally bought into American dream, ladder of success. 100% all in.

    You are spewing ignoramus nonsense. Some other ignoramus can contradict me with percentages Aztec and Maya and Zapotec DNA.

    Mexico the country has institutional problems that are 80% being adjacent to America the government’s bully b.s. policy behavior. Mexicans the people are fine.

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Do you know any Mexicans?

    They have a proportion of losers and rowdies and goofs and criminals equal to British, French, Italians, Germans, &c. They are Euros. The ones I know from work and school and whatnot are totally bought into American dream, ladder of success. 100% all in......
     
    Mexicans have a homeland, which is Mexico, and the U.S. was a far better place for actual Americans before the Mexican invasion, which is all I need to know, and something that few Mexicans would know or care about. Americans can have opinions and preferences about our own nation and culture.
    My opinion is that America is a far better place without Mexicans, and my preference is that they would go home.

    And Mexicans are here for the money and opportunities. They have bought into nothing. They have no desire to assimilate, and they can't assimilate. America can only change by having them here, and that change is largely in the negative direction.

    The crime rates, poverty, and dysfunction among native Europeans and white Americans is nothing like that of Mexicans. There are no gangs or cartels in my neighborhood, and nobody is getting decapitated. I think it's very arguable that our own elite criminals are emboldened and corrupted by a more third world electorate that only cares about money and opportunity.
  73. @Bill Jones
    @Curle


    What you are measuring is warfare which is and should be distinguished from crime.
     
    Only if war is legal in Mexico.

    The dead don't distinguish the two.

    Replies: @Curle

    War is effectively legal in Mexico. As evidenced by the response of the Mexican authorities.

  74. @Cloudbuster
    @Curle

    The US isn't immune to cartel warfare, once sufficient numbers of the cartel live here, so it really doesn't matter to the people suffering if it is war violence or crime violence.

    Replies: @Curle

    It matters if you are attempting an risk based analysis. The number you should look for is crime rates where gang related murders have been suppressed. If you want to measure white crime rates by Wild West standards and then compare them to Mexican standards from Tijuana, that would be an more reasonable standard. Even the rates of white crime generally vs crime in San Miguel de Allende would be closer to valid. How about Russian crime during the Yeltsin era as an comparator?

  75. @anon
    According to Unz, Hispanics are not violent. He has the statistics to prove it.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @OilcanFloyd, @bomag, @Haxo Angmark

  76. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @OilcanFloyd

    Do you know any Mexicans?

    They have a proportion of losers and rowdies and goofs and criminals equal to British, French, Italians, Germans, &c. They are Euros. The ones I know from work and school and whatnot are totally bought into American dream, ladder of success. 100% all in.

    You are spewing ignoramus nonsense. Some other ignoramus can contradict me with percentages Aztec and Maya and Zapotec DNA.

    Mexico the country has institutional problems that are 80% being adjacent to America the government's bully b.s. policy behavior. Mexicans the people are fine.

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd

    Do you know any Mexicans?

    They have a proportion of losers and rowdies and goofs and criminals equal to British, French, Italians, Germans, &c. They are Euros. The ones I know from work and school and whatnot are totally bought into American dream, ladder of success. 100% all in……

    Mexicans have a homeland, which is Mexico, and the U.S. was a far better place for actual Americans before the Mexican invasion, which is all I need to know, and something that few Mexicans would know or care about. Americans can have opinions and preferences about our own nation and culture.
    My opinion is that America is a far better place without Mexicans, and my preference is that they would go home.

    And Mexicans are here for the money and opportunities. They have bought into nothing. They have no desire to assimilate, and they can’t assimilate. America can only change by having them here, and that change is largely in the negative direction.

    The crime rates, poverty, and dysfunction among native Europeans and white Americans is nothing like that of Mexicans. There are no gangs or cartels in my neighborhood, and nobody is getting decapitated. I think it’s very arguable that our own elite criminals are emboldened and corrupted by a more third world electorate that only cares about money and opportunity.

  77. @Anthony Aaron
    @OilcanFloyd

    In cities like LA and Chicago, there has been significant demographic shift whereby the wetbacks replace the blacks … 'by any means necessary', and that often includes outright murder of the blacks.

    Having spent more than a decade living either in or immediately adjacent to some of LA's more fun barrios, I'd venture to say that the end result of wetbacks replacing blacks is about equal -- except that the wetbacks require more ESL classes in the schools - and there are far, far more of them than there are blacks.

    Replies: @Curle, @OilcanFloyd

    Having spent more than a decade living either in or immediately adjacent to some of LA’s more fun barrios, I’d venture to say that the end result of wetbacks replacing blacks is about equal — except that the wetbacks require more ESL classes in the schools – and there are far, far more of them than there are blacks.

    Which makes America a far, far worse place.

  78. @kaganovitch
    @Bernard

    Even if you’re poor, what stops you from picking up a mess like this?

    As me sainted grandma used to say " Es ist keine schande arm sein, es ist eine schande shmutzig sein" = "It is not shameful to be poor, it is shameful to be dirty."

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Truth

    Is that German or Yiddish?

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Anonymous

    German.

  79. I think I’ll avoid any place that becomes popular with American liberal/progressives. They make me sick.

  80. @kaganovitch
    @Joe Stalin

    We do in the People’s Republic of Illinois, which has banned so-called “Ghost Guns,” thanks to all the Cosmopolitans that infect us. Totally illegal: imagine if a person could not CREATE speech; the Cosmopolitans are now saying you can’t MAKE a gun, but only get it from someone else!

    That's nuttin. Here in Joisey, the Attorney General has used the threat of 'fraud' prosecutions to ban the sale of mills that can be used to drill out %80 lowers.

    Replies: @Joe Paluka

    Is it legal in Illinois to take your ghost gun to a fantasy football game?

  81. Her friend, Brent Coulter, who works in tech and most recently worked at Meta, moved to San Miguel on a whim right when the pandemic hit. He currently splits his time between Mexico and Austin, and says that relocating made perfect sense.

    “I FaceTimed a friend I knew from Burning Man, and he was smiling and radiant and I was gaunt and depressed in my Mission apartment that I was overpaying for and I asked him straight forward, ‘Why are you so happy and who gave you the license? And what are you doing with your life?’” Back in San Francisco, he was cooped up and paying \$4,000 per month, but now pays \$1,000 for a three-story home.

    Are the gays gentrifying Mexico City? They used to take great pride in finding edgy, stylish neighborhoods to live in, then they complained that everyone else followed them, now they don’t really talk about it since ‘gentrification’ is an unalloyed negative in the progressive lexicon.

  82. @Anonymous
    @kaganovitch

    Is that German or Yiddish?

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    German.

  83. @Legba
    @Anonymous

    True but if you've seen one donkey show, you've seen them all. Now, the cock fights are another ballgame!

    Replies: @Anthony Aaron

    Why go to mexico to see them when you can go to east LA and see them — and the dog fights — and the drive-by shootings — and the train lootings … and the destruction of the United States from within by people who commit crime with impunity.

  84. @Enemy of Earth
    When I read about this stuff it makes me quite happy that my maternal grandparents relocated to West Texas before my mom was born. It also makes me think Juneteenth celebrations should consist of US Blacks thanking their lucky stars. They could have been born in some shit hole African village instead of the USA.

    Replies: @Nachum

    Famous saying of Ali, when he got back from the Congo: “Thank God they put granddaddy on that boat!”

  85. @kaganovitch
    @Bernard

    Even if you’re poor, what stops you from picking up a mess like this?

    As me sainted grandma used to say " Es ist keine schande arm sein, es ist eine schande shmutzig sein" = "It is not shameful to be poor, it is shameful to be dirty."

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Truth

    As my sainted Grandma used to say;

    dicker Junge auf Diät
    Versuchen Sie es nicht
    Ich werde deinen aufbocken
    Wie ein Plünderer in einem Aufstand!

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Truth

    That's funny, I never had you pegged as a fat kid. Learn something new every day.

  86. @Truth
    @kaganovitch

    As my sainted Grandma used to say;

    dicker Junge auf Diät
    Versuchen Sie es nicht
    Ich werde deinen aufbocken
    Wie ein Plünderer in einem Aufstand!

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    That’s funny, I never had you pegged as a fat kid. Learn something new every day.

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