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From my new column in Taki’s Magazine:

Just Knock It Off
Steve Sailer

September 02, 2020

This week the mainstream media finally grudgingly admitted the possibility of what I’ve been hollering for three months: that their declaration of a “racial reckoning” has unleashed destruction and mayhem across America.

While most of the press’ attention is focused on a handful of whites shooting other whites over politics, the statistically much bigger phenomenon all summer has been the Black Lives Matter-inspired rise in black-on-black shootings.

For example, the number of shooting victims in New York City so far this year is up 95 percent over 2019. While the press is now harping on supposed right-wing violence, there probably aren’t a lot of violent Trumpists in the Bronx.

What about elsewhere? National crime data trickles in slowly, but one useful source is the Wikipedia page on mass shootings (defined as incidents in which four or more people were struck by bullets, but not necessarily killed).

With one day left in August, the total number of mass shootings in the U.S. since June 1 is 257, up 72 percent from 149 in 2019’s same period.

Read the whole thing there.

 
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  1. Wikipedia’s list of mass shootings

    Also noteworthy is how very few incidents there are before the 1970s.

    Fortunately, marksmanship is down.

    Along with anything else requiring skill or expertise.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Mr McKenna

    It could be that some early mass shootings were more or less forgotten. But to this Baby Boomer, the U. of Texas tower shooter in 1966 (?) seems like the first notorious one, and the I Don't Like Mondays girl who shot up a school outside San Diego in the late 1970s was the first school shooter.

    There may have been more murderous arson incidents in the past.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Arlo L. Ramsbottom, @Buzz Mohawk, @Achmed E. Newman, @SkylertheWeird, @guest007, @FPD72, @Prester John

    , @guest007
    @Mr McKenna

    Marksmanship is not every good because it requires practice and coaching. Where would anyone expect a gang-banger in the hood to be able to practice with someone who knows about proper marksmanship?

  2. Off topic An Alameda County (Oakland) Ca judge just ordered the university of Ca system to stop using SAT ACT scores in admissions. Anti White racist administration thrilled to comply. So admissions is now all on the How I will use my UC degree to destroy America, White people and BTW, I am an abused and persecuted transsexual essay.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Alden

    You know all those blacks who keep complaining in college about how all the whites have privilege that helps them pass their courses? That whites were raised in a culturally enriched environment that gave them an edge in college?

    That's nonsense. It's not a case of, "They already learned the subject before they went to college," that bewildered blacks seem to think it is. Many of those white kids didn't get any particular special learning privileges. It's just that yes, they really do learn that fast in class and retain what they learn better than lower-IQ blacks.

    Now, blacks can understand Asians. They see Asian grinding away at their studies and think that Asians have gotten where they have because they see Asians working hard and hear stories of them being pushed by their crazy-ambitious parents.

    But whites bewilder blacks. Because things are easy for smart whites, they're often lazy and don't work or study much, and as a rule, they're nowhere near the grinds that Asians are.

    But what smart whites effortlessly achieve is so outside the personal experience of blacks that it looks witchcraft to blacks. This leaves blacks agog and flailing for answers. Smart Asians look normal because Asians make visible effort. In comparison, smart whites often don't make visible effort, so blacks think whites are somehow cheating the system.

    What's really going on is that some 120 IQ black, who is used to peers with 80 IQ points, is stunned by white classmates with IQs that are 140-160. 120 point IQ blacks have no personal experience or psychological preparation for dealing with a whole classroom of whites that are 1-2 standard deviations smarter.

    To admit that your white classmates really are that much smarter is ego-crushing for a struggling black, so it has to be anything else except admitting that you're not as smart.

    Replies: @not a hacker

  3. OT:

    Good lecture from Jason Whitlock on BLM and the athlete as a “role model” here:

  4. Steve, you’ve made a mistake. Real, report-worthy mass shootings are performed by white males who are either federal government employees (by complete coincidence) or sufficiently mentally ill that they cannot later contradict what is said about them. Black men shooting four black men is only a mass shooting in, like, the literal definition sense.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @J.Ross

    The Official Story


    MSNBC's Joy Reid says 'BLM doesn't riot,' blames Trump for encouraging violence fueled by 'white nationalist mobs'

    https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/03/270/152/Joy-Reid-1.jpg

    "Let me repeat this for those inventing the idea of 'Black Lives Matter riots.' BLM doesn’t 'riot.' They march against police violence. And note that those caught setting fires, assaulting and shooting people are consistently of the RIGHT, not the left," Reid tweeted. "So let’s stop giving in to the narrative Trump and his allies are inventing to try and help him cling to power. Autocrats always eventually get to this place: accusing the opposition of being anarchic and violent to cover up their own rot and violence."

    "The 'riots' are not Black Lives Matter marches gone wrong. Armed white nationalists are mobbing these cities to take advantage of protests and scare fellow white people into quietly siding with them. It's an old, tried and true strategy: using fear & anti-blackness for politics."

    'this is not a both sides thing,' she added.


     


    Reid went on to praise her MSNBC colleague Jennifer Rubin, the self-described "conservative blogger" for The Washington Post who argued that the violence is Trump's and the GOP's fault.

    "Listen to ⁦@JRubinBlogger⁩. She speaks as a longtime conservative Republican, so she KNOWS the party. 'Democrats needn’t accept this narrative that Biden or BLM must bring a stop to the violence Trump is creating. They must denounce HIM for it,'" the MSNBC host wrote echoing Rubin's op-ed, later writing, "Bottom line: watch the Portland mayor, who is calling Trump out directly for sparking this violence. Trump LITERALLY tweeted: “when the looting starts, the shooting starts.” Biden should remind him of that when he gets to Kenosha. This is Trump violence, in Trump’s America."

    Reid doubled down on her show Monday night, invoking Adolf Hitler and slavery and linking them to "Trump fueling racial divisions in this country."


     

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @Morton's toes, @J.Ross, @Muggles

  5. Have there been any current events that might have set this off? In, say, late May 2020?

    Well, there’s the universal DH rule in June. Could that be it? I’ll think some more.

    https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-finalizes-2020-rule-changes-including-universal-dh-runner-on-second-base-to-start-extras/

  6. @Mr McKenna

    Wikipedia’s list of mass shootings
     
    Also noteworthy is how very few incidents there are before the 1970s.

    Fortunately, marksmanship is down.
     
    Along with anything else requiring skill or expertise.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @guest007

    It could be that some early mass shootings were more or less forgotten. But to this Baby Boomer, the U. of Texas tower shooter in 1966 (?) seems like the first notorious one, and the I Don’t Like Mondays girl who shot up a school outside San Diego in the late 1970s was the first school shooter.

    There may have been more murderous arson incidents in the past.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Steve Sailer

    They were, as you accurately put it, rarely talked about domestic murder-suicide incidents. A big reason they don't get talked about is often other crime is involved and/or the perpetrator is a convicted felon who doesn't help the Narrative. Dad's been embezzling from his employer and about to get caught isn't a typical person who was harmless except for lack of gun control. The alcoholic with a rap sheet who kills their alcoholic partner with a rap sheet and the future felons from their loins isn't a "typical white middle class family" no matter how much the media spins.

    , @Arlo L. Ramsbottom
    @Steve Sailer

    Some say the mass murder of the eight nurses by Richard Speck in 66 let loose something in the psyche of America. Something not too good!
    Interestingly,Speck became,in prison,a Trans! Bill Kurtis did a horrifying tv special about his life in prison. Breasts,coke,and money stashed up his rectum.
    That last part MAY have contributed to the eroding trust in the dollar! Eeesh!

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @Steve Sailer

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

    I seem to remember also something about a man burning down a school full of children in the 1800s, but I can't find it.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Muggles

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer


    the I Don’t Like Mondays girl
     
    Just to be clear, we're not talking Karen Carpenter here, right?

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Gary in Gramercy

    , @SkylertheWeird
    @Steve Sailer

    The rise of mass shootings started to rise with the advent of CNN and the 24hour news cycle. You could now commit flamboyant suicide as a shooter and everyone would know your name.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @guest007
    @Steve Sailer

    People have forgotten the San Ysidro Mcdonald's shooting from 1984.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Ysidro_McDonald%27s_massacre

    Reading about law enforcement's reaction, it had the same problems that occurred at Coumbine.

    , @FPD72
    @Steve Sailer

    Yes, the University of Texas library tower shooting was in 1966 (August 1). There is a good documentary about the shooting that was made in 2015, with the simple name of Tower. It is available for rental on Amazon Prime.

    , @Prester John
    @Steve Sailer

    I remember both the Speck and (Charles) Whitman Texas Tower shootings quite well. Of interest is that they both took place within three weeks or so of each other. I still maintain that it was the JFK assassination that really triggered something in this country's collective psyche--you can almost trace this country's downward trajectory from 22 November 1963.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

  7. Anon[205] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    A nice example of the Streisand Effect:

    BML speaker at a local Kenosha event says, “If you kill one of us, it’s time for us to kill one of yours,” included in local article, black employee objects, editor overrules, readership of tiny local newspaper read it.

    New York Times covers the resignation in protest of a (kinda) black (color photos show blue or gray eyes) employee of the paper, repeating the inciting cause for a giant nationwide audience, who now know that not only do elements of BLM advocate an eye-for-an-eye policy, but that some journalists believe in suppressing inconvenient news.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/31/business/media/kenosha-newspaper-editor-quits.html

    You see this all the time: Progressives look at the resignation and say, Isn’t it horrible he had to resign?! Normal people look at the quote and say, BLM wants to target and kill cops in retaliation for shootings (that haven’t even been investigated or adjudicated yet)?

    —–

    And …. 3, 2, 1, the guy has a GoFundMe up now.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @Anon

    You see this all the time: Progressives look at the resignation and say, Isn’t it horrible he had to resign?! Normal people look at the quote and say, BLM wants to target and kill cops in retaliation for shootings (that haven’t even been investigated or adjudicated yet)?
     

    It's primitive tribalism combined with primitive 'mosaic' justice. Expect to see more.

    Here's what you won't see so much:


    A police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemic-police-racism-11591119883
     

    You can get thrown off a hundred 'mainstream' news sites for quoting that one.
  8. Interesting considering there is no media attention about this. To the average observer shootings are down until a white guy shoots something up in the future.

  9. Anonymous[298] • Disclaimer says:

    I call out Trump’s liberal horsesh*t on this blog on a regular basis because he deserves it.

    But here is Trump in a video below completely on target —- completely apart from any damn Javanka influence.

    Also in this clip (talking to press on the tarmac today) he is using straightforward sentence structure without so many tangential thought interruptions as in the Ingraham interview.

    If Trump was the guy speaking in this video all of the time —- then he would go down in history as perhaps The Greatest. He is very late 1960s Reagan here. Problem is this is only one side of Trump.

    Compare his brutal truth telling in this video to the batsh*t flimflam he tried to sell us regarding Fauci yesterday.

    HARDCORE TRUMP NO PANDERING:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/peterdukephoto/status/1300829849435529217

  10. Mass Shootings Are Up 72% This Summer Over 2010

    One might add that they were mostly peaceful shootings. Except that this joke is already played, and in a remarkably short period of time. So fast are things proceeding now.

    • Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
    @Mr. Anon

    Didn’t Steve mean “2019”, not “2010”?

  11. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr McKenna

    It could be that some early mass shootings were more or less forgotten. But to this Baby Boomer, the U. of Texas tower shooter in 1966 (?) seems like the first notorious one, and the I Don't Like Mondays girl who shot up a school outside San Diego in the late 1970s was the first school shooter.

    There may have been more murderous arson incidents in the past.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Arlo L. Ramsbottom, @Buzz Mohawk, @Achmed E. Newman, @SkylertheWeird, @guest007, @FPD72, @Prester John

    They were, as you accurately put it, rarely talked about domestic murder-suicide incidents. A big reason they don’t get talked about is often other crime is involved and/or the perpetrator is a convicted felon who doesn’t help the Narrative. Dad’s been embezzling from his employer and about to get caught isn’t a typical person who was harmless except for lack of gun control. The alcoholic with a rap sheet who kills their alcoholic partner with a rap sheet and the future felons from their loins isn’t a “typical white middle class family” no matter how much the media spins.

  12. This article is pretty funny. A black ‘activist’ was shot to death by a friend who was aiming at a passing car. With friends like that, who needs enemies? Black are poison to each other.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-caleb-reed-murder-charges-20200901-26tr2j7u3jglnmaqwdjzirglx4-story.html

    • Replies: @Wake up
    @Anon

    I’m sure the 17 year old “activist” is leaving behind at least 1 child for the taxpayers to raise. And I’m sure the shooter will also leave behind some children for the taxpayers to fund while he is in prison. These people hit our wallets hard.

    , @Change that Matters
    @Anon

    First sentence from that article:


    The initial story of Caleb Reed’s death was tragic enough: A 17-year-old activist with a bright future killed on a West Rogers Park sidewalk when someone shot from a passing car.
     
    Just out of interest - although not enough to really care, is there a single black in the US who doesn't have a bright future according to the MSM?

    Replies: @Muggles

    , @anonymous1963
    @Anon

    To everybody.

  13. @Anon
    OT

    A nice example of the Streisand Effect:

    BML speaker at a local Kenosha event says, "If you kill one of us, it’s time for us to kill one of yours,” included in local article, black employee objects, editor overrules, readership of tiny local newspaper read it.

    New York Times covers the resignation in protest of a (kinda) black (color photos show blue or gray eyes) employee of the paper, repeating the inciting cause for a giant nationwide audience, who now know that not only do elements of BLM advocate an eye-for-an-eye policy, but that some journalists believe in suppressing inconvenient news.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/31/business/media/kenosha-newspaper-editor-quits.html

    You see this all the time: Progressives look at the resignation and say, Isn’t it horrible he had to resign?! Normal people look at the quote and say, BLM wants to target and kill cops in retaliation for shootings (that haven’t even been investigated or adjudicated yet)?

    -----

    And .... 3, 2, 1, the guy has a GoFundMe up now.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    You see this all the time: Progressives look at the resignation and say, Isn’t it horrible he had to resign?! Normal people look at the quote and say, BLM wants to target and kill cops in retaliation for shootings (that haven’t even been investigated or adjudicated yet)?

    It’s primitive tribalism combined with primitive ‘mosaic’ justice. Expect to see more.

    Here’s what you won’t see so much:

    A police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemic-police-racism-11591119883

    You can get thrown off a hundred ‘mainstream’ news sites for quoting that one.

  14. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr McKenna

    It could be that some early mass shootings were more or less forgotten. But to this Baby Boomer, the U. of Texas tower shooter in 1966 (?) seems like the first notorious one, and the I Don't Like Mondays girl who shot up a school outside San Diego in the late 1970s was the first school shooter.

    There may have been more murderous arson incidents in the past.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Arlo L. Ramsbottom, @Buzz Mohawk, @Achmed E. Newman, @SkylertheWeird, @guest007, @FPD72, @Prester John

    Some say the mass murder of the eight nurses by Richard Speck in 66 let loose something in the psyche of America. Something not too good!
    Interestingly,Speck became,in prison,a Trans! Bill Kurtis did a horrifying tv special about his life in prison. Breasts,coke,and money stashed up his rectum.
    That last part MAY have contributed to the eroding trust in the dollar! Eeesh!

  15. Anon[215] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden
    Off topic An Alameda County (Oakland) Ca judge just ordered the university of Ca system to stop using SAT ACT scores in admissions. Anti White racist administration thrilled to comply. So admissions is now all on the How I will use my UC degree to destroy America, White people and BTW, I am an abused and persecuted transsexual essay.

    Replies: @Anon

    You know all those blacks who keep complaining in college about how all the whites have privilege that helps them pass their courses? That whites were raised in a culturally enriched environment that gave them an edge in college?

    That’s nonsense. It’s not a case of, “They already learned the subject before they went to college,” that bewildered blacks seem to think it is. Many of those white kids didn’t get any particular special learning privileges. It’s just that yes, they really do learn that fast in class and retain what they learn better than lower-IQ blacks.

    Now, blacks can understand Asians. They see Asian grinding away at their studies and think that Asians have gotten where they have because they see Asians working hard and hear stories of them being pushed by their crazy-ambitious parents.

    But whites bewilder blacks. Because things are easy for smart whites, they’re often lazy and don’t work or study much, and as a rule, they’re nowhere near the grinds that Asians are.

    But what smart whites effortlessly achieve is so outside the personal experience of blacks that it looks witchcraft to blacks. This leaves blacks agog and flailing for answers. Smart Asians look normal because Asians make visible effort. In comparison, smart whites often don’t make visible effort, so blacks think whites are somehow cheating the system.

    What’s really going on is that some 120 IQ black, who is used to peers with 80 IQ points, is stunned by white classmates with IQs that are 140-160. 120 point IQ blacks have no personal experience or psychological preparation for dealing with a whole classroom of whites that are 1-2 standard deviations smarter.

    To admit that your white classmates really are that much smarter is ego-crushing for a struggling black, so it has to be anything else except admitting that you’re not as smart.

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @not a hacker
    @Anon

    The problem with this is that blacks only hang around other blacks. How would they even view whites engaged in the process of casual achievement? I used to live with the kind of people you describe. At Berkeley, had a roommate who didn’t even open the book for a 200-level math class until the week before the final cuz he was busy with his girlfriend. Then he scored the highest grade in the class. How do did you even pass physics at Cal in 1980 while bonging and drinking all the time? Did you know that at Berkeley, blacks even have a separate library?

  16. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr McKenna

    It could be that some early mass shootings were more or less forgotten. But to this Baby Boomer, the U. of Texas tower shooter in 1966 (?) seems like the first notorious one, and the I Don't Like Mondays girl who shot up a school outside San Diego in the late 1970s was the first school shooter.

    There may have been more murderous arson incidents in the past.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Arlo L. Ramsbottom, @Buzz Mohawk, @Achmed E. Newman, @SkylertheWeird, @guest007, @FPD72, @Prester John

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

    I seem to remember also something about a man burning down a school full of children in the 1800s, but I can’t find it.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Do you mean the horrific Bath School bombing?

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    , @Muggles
    @Buzz Mohawk

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe_Elementary_School_bombing

    Not but a few blocks away from iSteve's Rice University there was an elementary school bombing in 1959. Killed six, injured 18.

    This was done by a nut who tried to enroll his son but lacked the right paperwork.

    Per Wikipedia: Unlike school attacks in the early 21st century, there was no constant national and international media coverage of the Poe attack.

  17. A very good article, Steve. Your analysis is sound; your recommended course of action might well be fruitful. It will be ignored completely, because you are a “bad person”.

    Just getting a few of the relevant influencers to say the things you are saying might be useful. Who would those people be? Sports figures? Rappers? (I don’t pretend to know.) If LeBron James or Colin Kaepernick, instead of taking a knee during the national anthem or blathering on about systemic racism were to say instead: “Hey, homies, stop shooting up funerals. Stop shooting people. You’re making black people look bad”, it might help.

    Maybe if – I know this is radical – some white people could actually speak out on the matter; just bluntly say: “hey, black people, you know why we often don’t trust you? Because you commit a lot of murders. Because too many of you are hot-headed and short-sighted. Cool it.” Or at least: “You responsible law-abiding black people – tell your race-brothers to cool it.” One could even add (and this would be true): Europeans used to do it too. Our ancestors in the middle-ages and renaissance were often hot-headed. They killed each other in affairs of honor over stupid trifles, or in drunken brawls (some of them still do, but not nearly as much). They eventually ramped it down when sober-minded people demanded that they stop acting like d**ks. We did it. You can do it too.

    • Agree: vhrm
    • Replies: @anon
    @Mr. Anon

    Europeans used to do it too. Our ancestors in the middle-ages and renaissance were often hot-headed. They killed each other in affairs of honor over stupid trifles, or in drunken brawls (some of them still do, but not nearly as much). They eventually ramped it down when sober-minded people
    demanded that they stop acting like d**ks. .
    executed some every year for 500 to 1000 years.

    Behavior is at least partly inherited. Executing the carriers of some behaviors before they reproduce tends to reduce them as a percentage of the gene pool. It is an ugly, brutal thing but it is true. Western Europe demonstrates this from 1,000 AD to, oh, 1970 AD.

    We did it. You can do it too

    How many centuries should we wait? While we are waiting, can we please be separate?

    , @Odin
    @Mr. Anon


    Our ancestors in the middle-ages and renaissance were often hot-headed. They killed each other in affairs of honor over stupid trifles, or in drunken brawls (some of them still do, but not nearly as much). They eventually ramped it down when sober-minded people demanded that they stop acting like d**ks.
     
    And at least in some countries, killers tended to be hanged (or equivalent). Had a beneficial effect on the gene pool.
  18. @J.Ross
    Steve, you've made a mistake. Real, report-worthy mass shootings are performed by white males who are either federal government employees (by complete coincidence) or sufficiently mentally ill that they cannot later contradict what is said about them. Black men shooting four black men is only a mass shooting in, like, the literal definition sense.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    The Official Story

    MSNBC’s Joy Reid says ‘BLM doesn’t riot,’ blames Trump for encouraging violence fueled by ‘white nationalist mobs’

    “Let me repeat this for those inventing the idea of ‘Black Lives Matter riots.’ BLM doesn’t ‘riot.’ They march against police violence. And note that those caught setting fires, assaulting and shooting people are consistently of the RIGHT, not the left,” Reid tweeted. “So let’s stop giving in to the narrative Trump and his allies are inventing to try and help him cling to power. Autocrats always eventually get to this place: accusing the opposition of being anarchic and violent to cover up their own rot and violence.”

    “The ‘riots’ are not Black Lives Matter marches gone wrong. Armed white nationalists are mobbing these cities to take advantage of protests and scare fellow white people into quietly siding with them. It’s an old, tried and true strategy: using fear & anti-blackness for politics.”

    ‘this is not a both sides thing,’ she added.

    [MORE]

    Reid went on to praise her MSNBC colleague Jennifer Rubin, the self-described “conservative blogger” for The Washington Post who argued that the violence is Trump’s and the GOP’s fault.

    “Listen to ⁦@JRubinBlogger⁩. She speaks as a longtime conservative Republican, so she KNOWS the party. ‘Democrats needn’t accept this narrative that Biden or BLM must bring a stop to the violence Trump is creating. They must denounce HIM for it,’” the MSNBC host wrote echoing Rubin’s op-ed, later writing, “Bottom line: watch the Portland mayor, who is calling Trump out directly for sparking this violence. Trump LITERALLY tweeted: “when the looting starts, the shooting starts.” Biden should remind him of that when he gets to Kenosha. This is Trump violence, in Trump’s America.”

    Reid doubled down on her show Monday night, invoking Adolf Hitler and slavery and linking them to “Trump fueling racial divisions in this country.”

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @Mr McKenna

    We need to cut off the flow of Congolese & Guyanese allowed into this country immediately.

    Her father was from the Democratic Republic of Congo, and her mother a college professor and nutritionist from Guyana; the couple met in graduate school at the University of Iowa in Iowa City.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy_Reid

    Replies: @Wake up, @HammerJack

    , @Morton's toes
    @Mr McKenna

    1. all the blacks I know who are over 25 years of age hate affirmative action. Passionately hate it.
    2. I wouldn't go to a black doctor in a million years.

    This is progress? I would challenge Joy Reid to explain to me how this is progress but I bet she would not go to a black doctor in a million years either.

    , @J.Ross
    @Mr McKenna

    Completely insane. The obvious simple meaning of the "looting starts" line is "looters will be shot" or "don't loot." Instead of evidence (or dealing with the piles of video evidence contradicting her) she simply CAPITALIZES WORDS.

    , @Muggles
    @Mr McKenna

    Note the inclusion of "self described 'conservative blogger'" mentioned.

    No one outside of the WaPo or NYT editorial team would describe Rubin as any kind of conservative.

    This pathetic propaganda ruse continues in both papers. They have a house "conservative" who might be described as a 1990 mainstream Democrat at best. But having fake conservatives is a classic way of triangulating your propaganda to make it appear as if "all sides have a voice."

    In reality anyone writing regularly for these outlets, or similar (as my local Hearst rag also does) is in no way anyone other than a non Woke liberalish Democrat type. But they are useful in running the regular stream of commentary about how "Republicans/conservatives are denouncing Trump" (or the GOP Governor) etc.

    iSteve here would be described as a "self described liberal blogger" in an alternative universe the same way. .

  19. Anonymous[260] • Disclaimer says:

    Sorry, Steve, but black African dysfunction – including murderousness – *IS* an ‘inexorable law of the universe’.

    Proved every single day in every single way. No real life moral lesson is more ‘bleeding obvious’, as they say.

    Of course, the reasons for this go far, far deeper than any facile man made ‘laws’, ‘morals’ or ‘social contract’.
    Suffice to say that eons of evolutionary biology have genetically hard wired emotional/behavioral cerebral neural circuits and hormonal releasing patterns to suit the environment in which that evolutionary strategy for existence existed, for countless millennia.
    As a hint, this environment, in which only the most adept and best suited passed on the behavioral genetics, was certainly no vicarage tea party.

  20. Only 72%. They need to set their sights higher.

  21. Excellent column, Steve.

    Now, shooting someone just because you’ve been dissed is not necessarily a black thing. The cream of white American society were doing it as recently as 200 years ago (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burr%E2%80%93Hamilton_duel).

    White gangs including the Italan mob did that sort of thing and also preyed on society less than 100 years ago (and some still do to various degrees).

    Blacks shooting people over getting dissed or for drug turf or to steal someone’s Yeezys
    (yes, shootings over sneakers are still a thing:
    https://nypost.com/2020/04/14/florida-men-busted-in-murder-of-teen-during-botched-sneaker-deal/ ) isn’t some unique thing not seen before by society. It’s the same impulses and problems that have been with society everywhere basically forever. It’s literally Cain and Abel stuff…

    Every society everywhere has had to deal with anger, jealousy, impulsivity, and their extensions of theft, assault and murder, especially among their younger men, in various ways over the centuries. Solutions have varied in different times and places, but, as you said , whether through carrots or sticks or some combination thereof you have to address the issues with the people perpetrating them.

    Blaming white people, the legacy of slavery, systemic racism, etc. etc. for this is not only dishonest, but also clearly ineffective at stopping the violence and making the problem subset of blacks more acceptable in modern society. It’s also just dehumanizing for black people and black society: like they have categorically lower moral agency than other people.

  22. Speaking of shootin’, here’s a supernerd vid documenting the chain of events regarding that Rittenhouse boy:

    • Thanks: vhrm
    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Anonymous

    Thanks.

  23. Anon[215] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Ted Wheeler is moving out of his Portland condo because of the protests. His block has been busted! Rioters were setting off fireworks at his building. Boy, that’ll get the HOA after you as a tenant if you have the power to stop it but you refuse. I wonder was the other residents said to him? They must have been meaner than the rioters.

    https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/09/portland-mayor-says-hell-move-after-protest-outside-his-condo-building-draws-arrests-widespread-calls-for-change.html?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=oregonian_sf&utm_source=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

    Protester who was arrested was released, and he promptly went out and stabbed two people to death.

    https://www.koin.com/news/crime/records-suspect-arrested-at-protest-one-week-before-deadly-stabbing/

    Oregon State Police have been deputized by US Marshals, meaning they can arrest you on Federal charges now.

    https://www.koin.com/news/protests/oregon-state-police-troopers-federally-deputized-amid-renewed-portland-protest-response/

    Last weekend, rioters vandalized the home of San Jose’s mayor.

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/08/31/vandalism-of-mayors-homes-takes-protests-to-a-new-level/?ocid=uxbndlbing

  24. And, eventually… Stop thinking you need to kill a guy for dissing you. You feel mad at the moment, but in the long run, you will be okay.

    Isn’t the basic problem though that far too many black males just don’t seem to think long run, at least as we would understand the term? 50,000 years of differential evolution in a tropical environment without winter may have made “long run” a harder concept to process in the abstract. That would imply that the long run thinking has to be externally conducted and applied.

  25. Media Creates Impression That All Mass Shooters Are White Males, But New York Times Disclosed in 2016 that 75% of Shooters Were Black

    https://needtoknow.news/2019/08/media-creates-impression-that-all-mass-shooters-are-white-males-but-new-york-times-disclosed-in-2016-that-75-of-shooters-were-black/

  26. OT

    I woke in the middle of the night from a vivid dream, in which Steve had sent an e-mail to my personal account, which I’ve never shared here, addressing me by name, and telling me the method by which he’d found out who I was.

    It was GPT-3 (https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/07/20/1005454/openai-machine-learning-language-generator-gpt-3-nlp/)!

    And can’t it actually work? Given labelled texts, say Facebook posts or Twitter posts, couldn’t this tool generate labels for unlabelled texts? Our word choices are shibboleths.

    Maybe this was how Blake Neff was unmasked? Or is it already known how that occurred?

  27. Some reading for later about the UK:

    Low-effort phraseology-driven Red/Black Revolutionary LARPing with clear words and probably more sexual undercurrents than one would care to admit:

    The ‘Oxford Black Panther’ behind Britain’s first black-led political party vows to make white men ‘our slaves’

    • Replies: @Change that Matters
    @El Dato

    In this 1:29-minute video, she comes across as a less charismatic and lower IQ black version of Danielle Bregoli, the retarded whore who shot to fame over her 'cash me outside' comments a few years back.

    , @Anonymous
    @El Dato

    That's the Labour Party's job.

  28. @Anon
    This article is pretty funny. A black 'activist' was shot to death by a friend who was aiming at a passing car. With friends like that, who needs enemies? Black are poison to each other.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-caleb-reed-murder-charges-20200901-26tr2j7u3jglnmaqwdjzirglx4-story.html

    Replies: @Wake up, @Change that Matters, @anonymous1963

    I’m sure the 17 year old “activist” is leaving behind at least 1 child for the taxpayers to raise. And I’m sure the shooter will also leave behind some children for the taxpayers to fund while he is in prison. These people hit our wallets hard.

  29. @Anon
    This article is pretty funny. A black 'activist' was shot to death by a friend who was aiming at a passing car. With friends like that, who needs enemies? Black are poison to each other.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-caleb-reed-murder-charges-20200901-26tr2j7u3jglnmaqwdjzirglx4-story.html

    Replies: @Wake up, @Change that Matters, @anonymous1963

    First sentence from that article:

    The initial story of Caleb Reed’s death was tragic enough: A 17-year-old activist with a bright future killed on a West Rogers Park sidewalk when someone shot from a passing car.

    Just out of interest – although not enough to really care, is there a single black in the US who doesn’t have a bright future according to the MSM?

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Change that Matters


    Just out of interest – although not enough to really care, is there a single black in the US who doesn’t have a bright future according to the MSM?
     
    The local leftist propaganda rag has started describing high school students being profiled for "feel good" feature articles as "Joe/Jane Doe, a rising student at XYZ High school." etc.

    That struck me as very odd the first time I read that. No explanation about what "rising student" is supposed to mean.

    However, all "rising students" are non White so far as I can tell. So this is another "progressive" racial label to sort out the Evil Whites from the Good people. Maybe all the White kids have already risen.

  30. A few young guys recently bought the ghost town of Cerro Gordo a few hundred miles north of LA, and want to restore it for tourists.

    When it was a thriving mining town in the 1860’s and ’70’s apparently it had about a murder per week out of a population of 5000. Maybe a few mass murders too, accidental and otherwise.

    The miners put sandbags around their beds to protect from stray bullets.

    Also, according to the stories, LA owes a big portion of its early history to the town, which was the biggest producer of silver and zinc in the state and a source of funds and trade.

    The town’s new owners are currently surviving off of youtube videos I think.

    • Replies: @Captain Tripps
    @wren

    That's pretty cool. Will they have life-like robots that play the part of town barkeep, whorehouse madame and bad-ass gunslinger for tourist entertainment?

    Replies: @wren

  31. @El Dato
    Some reading for later about the UK:

    Low-effort phraseology-driven Red/Black Revolutionary LARPing with clear words and probably more sexual undercurrents than one would care to admit:

    The ‘Oxford Black Panther’ behind Britain’s first black-led political party vows to make white men ‘our slaves’

    Replies: @Change that Matters, @Anonymous

    In this 1:29-minute video, she comes across as a less charismatic and lower IQ black version of Danielle Bregoli, the retarded whore who shot to fame over her ‘cash me outside’ comments a few years back.

  32. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr McKenna

    It could be that some early mass shootings were more or less forgotten. But to this Baby Boomer, the U. of Texas tower shooter in 1966 (?) seems like the first notorious one, and the I Don't Like Mondays girl who shot up a school outside San Diego in the late 1970s was the first school shooter.

    There may have been more murderous arson incidents in the past.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Arlo L. Ramsbottom, @Buzz Mohawk, @Achmed E. Newman, @SkylertheWeird, @guest007, @FPD72, @Prester John

    the I Don’t Like Mondays girl

    Just to be clear, we’re not talking Karen Carpenter here, right?

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Dealing with Mondays (Incorrect)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcZW0GFLSdw

    Dealing with Mondays (Correct)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBgKrOvdgk8

    , @Gary in Gramercy
    @Achmed E. Newman

    That was "Rainy Days and Mondays."

    The Boomtown Rats (led by self-righteous PITA Bob Geldof) gave us "I Don't Like Mondays."

    Tomorrow: how to distinguish David Essex from (Lord) David Dundas.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  33. I wonder what percentage of blacks cannot tell time, literally. I mean look at an analog clock and tell the time. I have met a couple.

  34. Thanks to Second City Cop for reference to a twist on the sporting rivalry between two great cities:

    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/li-bar-is-taking-bets-on-which-city-will-have-more-shootings-over-labor-day-weekend/2595507/

    Let The Games begin!

  35. I agree completely with this piece. Blacks know that whatever atrocity they commit, they will be greeted by a confetti parade of excuses from the idiot white liberals, who also need to “knock it off”. I find that when engaging the libs on this matter, they often plead that black crime is caused by poverty. At this point, I like to quote Rush Limbaugh’s stand-in, economics professor Walter Williams, who writes that “…after accounting for income, charity, and noncash welfare benefits, such as subsidized health care, housing, food stamps and other assistance programs, the poorest 20% of Americans consume more goods and services than the national averages for all people in the world’s most affluent countries”. I will be sure to mention that the good professor is black, which is, by their leftist lights, infallible.
    If they persist with the poverty BS, I tell them that Nielsen puts black spending power at 1.2 trillion.
    So, yea, knock it off, raisin brain.

  36. their declaration of a “racial reckoning” has unleashed destruction and mayhem across America.

    Nice dodge to blame “mainstream media” when we have a Republican President, a Republican Senate and a Republican Supreme Court. And before you blame “Democrat cities”, take a look at how things are going in Miami or Jacksonville (or the lack of destruction and mayhem in Boston).

    And isn’t Fox News “mainstream” by any definition?

    Asking “the blacks” to just start being nice and obeying the law is also a non-starter. There are plenty of community activists who have been telling African-Americans to get their act together for decades.

    You would think a person as well versed as Steve is in HBD might realize that the violence problem is much deeper than some leftist cosplayers and is not going to be fixed by role models or blaming CNN.

    Blacks are angry and frustrated for a good reason – most of them are not equipped mentally or psychologically to succeed in the Eurasian 21st century. Our society is so data driven and geared to people skilled in abstract thinking, that blacks literally cannot understand what is going on. (You see this anger in low IQ whites as well, but it tends to be less noticeable as a group phenomenon except in dying rural towns where low IQ whites are all that’s left. ) When you don’t understand, you feel stupid and humiliated, when you feel humilated, you lash out. Blacks feel humiliated, all the time. What is surprising is not the riots, it is that we have managed for so long, with cheap entertainment and cheap junk food mostly, to keep them so docile.

    And as more Africans pour into Europe and then look to find their way into China and the US, the situation is not going to get better.

  37. @Mr McKenna
    @J.Ross

    The Official Story


    MSNBC's Joy Reid says 'BLM doesn't riot,' blames Trump for encouraging violence fueled by 'white nationalist mobs'

    https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/03/270/152/Joy-Reid-1.jpg

    "Let me repeat this for those inventing the idea of 'Black Lives Matter riots.' BLM doesn’t 'riot.' They march against police violence. And note that those caught setting fires, assaulting and shooting people are consistently of the RIGHT, not the left," Reid tweeted. "So let’s stop giving in to the narrative Trump and his allies are inventing to try and help him cling to power. Autocrats always eventually get to this place: accusing the opposition of being anarchic and violent to cover up their own rot and violence."

    "The 'riots' are not Black Lives Matter marches gone wrong. Armed white nationalists are mobbing these cities to take advantage of protests and scare fellow white people into quietly siding with them. It's an old, tried and true strategy: using fear & anti-blackness for politics."

    'this is not a both sides thing,' she added.


     


    Reid went on to praise her MSNBC colleague Jennifer Rubin, the self-described "conservative blogger" for The Washington Post who argued that the violence is Trump's and the GOP's fault.

    "Listen to ⁦@JRubinBlogger⁩. She speaks as a longtime conservative Republican, so she KNOWS the party. 'Democrats needn’t accept this narrative that Biden or BLM must bring a stop to the violence Trump is creating. They must denounce HIM for it,'" the MSNBC host wrote echoing Rubin's op-ed, later writing, "Bottom line: watch the Portland mayor, who is calling Trump out directly for sparking this violence. Trump LITERALLY tweeted: “when the looting starts, the shooting starts.” Biden should remind him of that when he gets to Kenosha. This is Trump violence, in Trump’s America."

    Reid doubled down on her show Monday night, invoking Adolf Hitler and slavery and linking them to "Trump fueling racial divisions in this country."


     

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @Morton's toes, @J.Ross, @Muggles

    We need to cut off the flow of Congolese & Guyanese allowed into this country immediately.

    Her father was from the Democratic Republic of Congo, and her mother a college professor and nutritionist from Guyana; the couple met in graduate school at the University of Iowa in Iowa City.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy_Reid

    • Thanks: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @Wake up
    @duncsbaby

    Joy’s parents produced an angry, scary looking daughter.

    , @HammerJack
    @duncsbaby

    Good God, another one? I swear, third world immigration really is the gift that keeps on giving.

    Imagine migrating to their countries and getting into positions of influence and then campaigning against "black nationalists" in such vicious and disparaging terms.

    In fact, they probably wouldn't react violently because no one would take you seriously. Instead they'd just laugh you right out of their country.

  38. @wren
    A few young guys recently bought the ghost town of Cerro Gordo a few hundred miles north of LA, and want to restore it for tourists.

    When it was a thriving mining town in the 1860's and '70's apparently it had about a murder per week out of a population of 5000. Maybe a few mass murders too, accidental and otherwise.

    The miners put sandbags around their beds to protect from stray bullets.

    Also, according to the stories, LA owes a big portion of its early history to the town, which was the biggest producer of silver and zinc in the state and a source of funds and trade.

    The town's new owners are currently surviving off of youtube videos I think.

    Replies: @Captain Tripps

    That’s pretty cool. Will they have life-like robots that play the part of town barkeep, whorehouse madame and bad-ass gunslinger for tourist entertainment?

    • Replies: @wren
    @Captain Tripps

    Yeah, I think they are in secret talks with Boston Dynamics about that, but it's all underground in a mine at this point. Maybe some AI research too.

    The big fire they had recently was just cover up for a robot lab accident, I hear.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-21/a-california-ghost-town-with-a-murderous-past-suffers-new-tragedy-as-famed-hotel-goes-up-in-flames

  39. “They’re [black mass shootings] just dumb decisions made by people who haven’t been taught by society just how ridiculous their values and behavior are.”

    Just a minor quibble, Steve. “Society,” an abstraction, doesn’t teach young men. With young black men the only teaching they get is from poorly educated, single teenage moms. Dad doesn’t stick around to teach them anything. Remember a couple of years ago when the Vikings Adrian Peterson got roasted by the MSM and job-suspended for spanking his young son with a belt? My guess is that with more Adrian Peterson-dads we’d get less of the black shootings you describe.

  40. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr McKenna

    It could be that some early mass shootings were more or less forgotten. But to this Baby Boomer, the U. of Texas tower shooter in 1966 (?) seems like the first notorious one, and the I Don't Like Mondays girl who shot up a school outside San Diego in the late 1970s was the first school shooter.

    There may have been more murderous arson incidents in the past.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Arlo L. Ramsbottom, @Buzz Mohawk, @Achmed E. Newman, @SkylertheWeird, @guest007, @FPD72, @Prester John

    The rise of mass shootings started to rise with the advent of CNN and the 24hour news cycle. You could now commit flamboyant suicide as a shooter and everyone would know your name.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @SkylertheWeird


    The rise of mass shootings started to rise with the advent of CNN and the 24hour news cycle. You could now commit flamboyant suicide as a shooter and everyone would know your name.
     
    And it didn't help when Presidents started visiting the sites of mass-murders.
  41. You have a typo in the title of this post. Surely you mean 2019 and not 2010.

  42. #BlackCrimesMatter!

    Fantastic job Steve. I wish Tucker would talk more about this stuff, but for all his bravery deep down he’s still CivNat.

  43. While most of the press’ attention is focused on a handful of whites shooting other whites over politics, the statistically much bigger phenomenon all summer has been the Black Lives Matter-inspired rise in black-on-black shootings.

    Okay, but I suspect what most readers are concerned about—whether or not they will admit it—is what is the change in black-on-white shootings?

    And it’s not irrational racism either. Just as you are better able to predict and adjust to the actions of your own family than to the actions of strangers, you are better able to predict and adjust to the actions of your own extended family (aka race) than to the actions of aliens. So naturally people want to know, what are the aliens doing? Especially now that the Government Media Industrial Complex has declared the aliens immune to law and punishment.

  44. Yup. Don’t tell us BLM; show us.

  45. @Mr McKenna
    @J.Ross

    The Official Story


    MSNBC's Joy Reid says 'BLM doesn't riot,' blames Trump for encouraging violence fueled by 'white nationalist mobs'

    https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/03/270/152/Joy-Reid-1.jpg

    "Let me repeat this for those inventing the idea of 'Black Lives Matter riots.' BLM doesn’t 'riot.' They march against police violence. And note that those caught setting fires, assaulting and shooting people are consistently of the RIGHT, not the left," Reid tweeted. "So let’s stop giving in to the narrative Trump and his allies are inventing to try and help him cling to power. Autocrats always eventually get to this place: accusing the opposition of being anarchic and violent to cover up their own rot and violence."

    "The 'riots' are not Black Lives Matter marches gone wrong. Armed white nationalists are mobbing these cities to take advantage of protests and scare fellow white people into quietly siding with them. It's an old, tried and true strategy: using fear & anti-blackness for politics."

    'this is not a both sides thing,' she added.


     


    Reid went on to praise her MSNBC colleague Jennifer Rubin, the self-described "conservative blogger" for The Washington Post who argued that the violence is Trump's and the GOP's fault.

    "Listen to ⁦@JRubinBlogger⁩. She speaks as a longtime conservative Republican, so she KNOWS the party. 'Democrats needn’t accept this narrative that Biden or BLM must bring a stop to the violence Trump is creating. They must denounce HIM for it,'" the MSNBC host wrote echoing Rubin's op-ed, later writing, "Bottom line: watch the Portland mayor, who is calling Trump out directly for sparking this violence. Trump LITERALLY tweeted: “when the looting starts, the shooting starts.” Biden should remind him of that when he gets to Kenosha. This is Trump violence, in Trump’s America."

    Reid doubled down on her show Monday night, invoking Adolf Hitler and slavery and linking them to "Trump fueling racial divisions in this country."


     

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @Morton's toes, @J.Ross, @Muggles

    1. all the blacks I know who are over 25 years of age hate affirmative action. Passionately hate it.
    2. I wouldn’t go to a black doctor in a million years.

    This is progress? I would challenge Joy Reid to explain to me how this is progress but I bet she would not go to a black doctor in a million years either.

  46. @duncsbaby
    @Mr McKenna

    We need to cut off the flow of Congolese & Guyanese allowed into this country immediately.

    Her father was from the Democratic Republic of Congo, and her mother a college professor and nutritionist from Guyana; the couple met in graduate school at the University of Iowa in Iowa City.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy_Reid

    Replies: @Wake up, @HammerJack

    Joy’s parents produced an angry, scary looking daughter.

  47. @duncsbaby
    @Mr McKenna

    We need to cut off the flow of Congolese & Guyanese allowed into this country immediately.

    Her father was from the Democratic Republic of Congo, and her mother a college professor and nutritionist from Guyana; the couple met in graduate school at the University of Iowa in Iowa City.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy_Reid

    Replies: @Wake up, @HammerJack

    Good God, another one? I swear, third world immigration really is the gift that keeps on giving.

    Imagine migrating to their countries and getting into positions of influence and then campaigning against “black nationalists” in such vicious and disparaging terms.

    In fact, they probably wouldn’t react violently because no one would take you seriously. Instead they’d just laugh you right out of their country.

  48. @SkylertheWeird
    @Steve Sailer

    The rise of mass shootings started to rise with the advent of CNN and the 24hour news cycle. You could now commit flamboyant suicide as a shooter and everyone would know your name.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    The rise of mass shootings started to rise with the advent of CNN and the 24hour news cycle. You could now commit flamboyant suicide as a shooter and everyone would know your name.

    And it didn’t help when Presidents started visiting the sites of mass-murders.

  49. I wish White folks would stop telling people that holding their guns sideways is bad. Are we trying to teach these guys how to kill more people? What’s the point of shooting someone if you can’t look cool doing it?

    • Replies: @bruce county
    @Rich

    I wish White folks would stop telling people that holding their guns sideways is bad

    It's the way they come in the box. Thought it's doubtful hood straps are bought new in a box.

  50. @Mr McKenna

    Wikipedia’s list of mass shootings
     
    Also noteworthy is how very few incidents there are before the 1970s.

    Fortunately, marksmanship is down.
     
    Along with anything else requiring skill or expertise.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @guest007

    Marksmanship is not every good because it requires practice and coaching. Where would anyone expect a gang-banger in the hood to be able to practice with someone who knows about proper marksmanship?

  51. @Mr McKenna
    @J.Ross

    The Official Story


    MSNBC's Joy Reid says 'BLM doesn't riot,' blames Trump for encouraging violence fueled by 'white nationalist mobs'

    https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/03/270/152/Joy-Reid-1.jpg

    "Let me repeat this for those inventing the idea of 'Black Lives Matter riots.' BLM doesn’t 'riot.' They march against police violence. And note that those caught setting fires, assaulting and shooting people are consistently of the RIGHT, not the left," Reid tweeted. "So let’s stop giving in to the narrative Trump and his allies are inventing to try and help him cling to power. Autocrats always eventually get to this place: accusing the opposition of being anarchic and violent to cover up their own rot and violence."

    "The 'riots' are not Black Lives Matter marches gone wrong. Armed white nationalists are mobbing these cities to take advantage of protests and scare fellow white people into quietly siding with them. It's an old, tried and true strategy: using fear & anti-blackness for politics."

    'this is not a both sides thing,' she added.


     


    Reid went on to praise her MSNBC colleague Jennifer Rubin, the self-described "conservative blogger" for The Washington Post who argued that the violence is Trump's and the GOP's fault.

    "Listen to ⁦@JRubinBlogger⁩. She speaks as a longtime conservative Republican, so she KNOWS the party. 'Democrats needn’t accept this narrative that Biden or BLM must bring a stop to the violence Trump is creating. They must denounce HIM for it,'" the MSNBC host wrote echoing Rubin's op-ed, later writing, "Bottom line: watch the Portland mayor, who is calling Trump out directly for sparking this violence. Trump LITERALLY tweeted: “when the looting starts, the shooting starts.” Biden should remind him of that when he gets to Kenosha. This is Trump violence, in Trump’s America."

    Reid doubled down on her show Monday night, invoking Adolf Hitler and slavery and linking them to "Trump fueling racial divisions in this country."


     

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @Morton's toes, @J.Ross, @Muggles

    Completely insane. The obvious simple meaning of the “looting starts” line is “looters will be shot” or “don’t loot.” Instead of evidence (or dealing with the piles of video evidence contradicting her) she simply CAPITALIZES WORDS.

  52. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Steve Sailer

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

    I seem to remember also something about a man burning down a school full of children in the 1800s, but I can't find it.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Muggles

    Do you mean the horrific Bath School bombing?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @kaganovitch

    Yes, and I think there were other things.

    It is not that anything today is new, but that our current environment promotes the growth of things that have always been under the surface.

  53. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer


    the I Don’t Like Mondays girl
     
    Just to be clear, we're not talking Karen Carpenter here, right?

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Gary in Gramercy

    Dealing with Mondays (Incorrect)

    Dealing with Mondays (Correct)

  54. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Steve Sailer

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

    I seem to remember also something about a man burning down a school full of children in the 1800s, but I can't find it.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Muggles

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe_Elementary_School_bombing

    Not but a few blocks away from iSteve’s Rice University there was an elementary school bombing in 1959. Killed six, injured 18.

    This was done by a nut who tried to enroll his son but lacked the right paperwork.

    Per Wikipedia: Unlike school attacks in the early 21st century, there was no constant national and international media coverage of the Poe attack.

  55. @Anonymous
    Speaking of shootin', here’s a supernerd vid documenting the chain of events regarding that Rittenhouse boy:

    https://youtu.be/hixWyWy699c

    Replies: @Kylie

    Thanks.

  56. @Mr McKenna
    @J.Ross

    The Official Story


    MSNBC's Joy Reid says 'BLM doesn't riot,' blames Trump for encouraging violence fueled by 'white nationalist mobs'

    https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/03/270/152/Joy-Reid-1.jpg

    "Let me repeat this for those inventing the idea of 'Black Lives Matter riots.' BLM doesn’t 'riot.' They march against police violence. And note that those caught setting fires, assaulting and shooting people are consistently of the RIGHT, not the left," Reid tweeted. "So let’s stop giving in to the narrative Trump and his allies are inventing to try and help him cling to power. Autocrats always eventually get to this place: accusing the opposition of being anarchic and violent to cover up their own rot and violence."

    "The 'riots' are not Black Lives Matter marches gone wrong. Armed white nationalists are mobbing these cities to take advantage of protests and scare fellow white people into quietly siding with them. It's an old, tried and true strategy: using fear & anti-blackness for politics."

    'this is not a both sides thing,' she added.


     


    Reid went on to praise her MSNBC colleague Jennifer Rubin, the self-described "conservative blogger" for The Washington Post who argued that the violence is Trump's and the GOP's fault.

    "Listen to ⁦@JRubinBlogger⁩. She speaks as a longtime conservative Republican, so she KNOWS the party. 'Democrats needn’t accept this narrative that Biden or BLM must bring a stop to the violence Trump is creating. They must denounce HIM for it,'" the MSNBC host wrote echoing Rubin's op-ed, later writing, "Bottom line: watch the Portland mayor, who is calling Trump out directly for sparking this violence. Trump LITERALLY tweeted: “when the looting starts, the shooting starts.” Biden should remind him of that when he gets to Kenosha. This is Trump violence, in Trump’s America."

    Reid doubled down on her show Monday night, invoking Adolf Hitler and slavery and linking them to "Trump fueling racial divisions in this country."


     

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @Morton's toes, @J.Ross, @Muggles

    Note the inclusion of “self described ‘conservative blogger’” mentioned.

    No one outside of the WaPo or NYT editorial team would describe Rubin as any kind of conservative.

    This pathetic propaganda ruse continues in both papers. They have a house “conservative” who might be described as a 1990 mainstream Democrat at best. But having fake conservatives is a classic way of triangulating your propaganda to make it appear as if “all sides have a voice.”

    In reality anyone writing regularly for these outlets, or similar (as my local Hearst rag also does) is in no way anyone other than a non Woke liberalish Democrat type. But they are useful in running the regular stream of commentary about how “Republicans/conservatives are denouncing Trump” (or the GOP Governor) etc.

    iSteve here would be described as a “self described liberal blogger” in an alternative universe the same way. .

  57. anon[295] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon
    A very good article, Steve. Your analysis is sound; your recommended course of action might well be fruitful. It will be ignored completely, because you are a "bad person".

    Just getting a few of the relevant influencers to say the things you are saying might be useful. Who would those people be? Sports figures? Rappers? (I don't pretend to know.) If LeBron James or Colin Kaepernick, instead of taking a knee during the national anthem or blathering on about systemic racism were to say instead: "Hey, homies, stop shooting up funerals. Stop shooting people. You're making black people look bad", it might help.

    Maybe if - I know this is radical - some white people could actually speak out on the matter; just bluntly say: "hey, black people, you know why we often don't trust you? Because you commit a lot of murders. Because too many of you are hot-headed and short-sighted. Cool it." Or at least: "You responsible law-abiding black people - tell your race-brothers to cool it." One could even add (and this would be true): Europeans used to do it too. Our ancestors in the middle-ages and renaissance were often hot-headed. They killed each other in affairs of honor over stupid trifles, or in drunken brawls (some of them still do, but not nearly as much). They eventually ramped it down when sober-minded people demanded that they stop acting like d**ks. We did it. You can do it too.

    Replies: @anon, @Odin

    Europeans used to do it too. Our ancestors in the middle-ages and renaissance were often hot-headed. They killed each other in affairs of honor over stupid trifles, or in drunken brawls (some of them still do, but not nearly as much). They eventually ramped it down when sober-minded people
    demanded that they stop acting like d**ks. .
    executed some every year for 500 to 1000 years.

    Behavior is at least partly inherited. Executing the carriers of some behaviors before they reproduce tends to reduce them as a percentage of the gene pool. It is an ugly, brutal thing but it is true. Western Europe demonstrates this from 1,000 AD to, oh, 1970 AD.

    We did it. You can do it too

    How many centuries should we wait? While we are waiting, can we please be separate?

  58. @Change that Matters
    @Anon

    First sentence from that article:


    The initial story of Caleb Reed’s death was tragic enough: A 17-year-old activist with a bright future killed on a West Rogers Park sidewalk when someone shot from a passing car.
     
    Just out of interest - although not enough to really care, is there a single black in the US who doesn't have a bright future according to the MSM?

    Replies: @Muggles

    Just out of interest – although not enough to really care, is there a single black in the US who doesn’t have a bright future according to the MSM?

    The local leftist propaganda rag has started describing high school students being profiled for “feel good” feature articles as “Joe/Jane Doe, a rising student at XYZ High school.” etc.

    That struck me as very odd the first time I read that. No explanation about what “rising student” is supposed to mean.

    However, all “rising students” are non White so far as I can tell. So this is another “progressive” racial label to sort out the Evil Whites from the Good people. Maybe all the White kids have already risen.

  59. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr McKenna

    It could be that some early mass shootings were more or less forgotten. But to this Baby Boomer, the U. of Texas tower shooter in 1966 (?) seems like the first notorious one, and the I Don't Like Mondays girl who shot up a school outside San Diego in the late 1970s was the first school shooter.

    There may have been more murderous arson incidents in the past.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Arlo L. Ramsbottom, @Buzz Mohawk, @Achmed E. Newman, @SkylertheWeird, @guest007, @FPD72, @Prester John

    People have forgotten the San Ysidro Mcdonald’s shooting from 1984.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Ysidro_McDonald%27s_massacre

    Reading about law enforcement’s reaction, it had the same problems that occurred at Coumbine.

  60. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer


    the I Don’t Like Mondays girl
     
    Just to be clear, we're not talking Karen Carpenter here, right?

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Gary in Gramercy

    That was “Rainy Days and Mondays.”

    The Boomtown Rats (led by self-righteous PITA Bob Geldof) gave us “I Don’t Like Mondays.”

    Tomorrow: how to distinguish David Essex from (Lord) David Dundas.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Gary in Gramercy

    OK, good, Gary, because I love her and her brother's music, and she had enough trouble as it was to now be posthumously pinned with a mass murder rap.

    So, it was the Boomtown Rats who done it?


    Tomorrow: how to distinguish David Essex from (Lord) David Dundas.
     
    I can keep David Dundas straight from Davis Essex, just because I never heard of David Essex. Who hasn't heard of David Dundas? Must be living under a rock...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwGlhKcEBjY

    However, every time I hear about Home Office guy Jack Straw, I've just got to go listen to the '72 Europe tour version of Jack Straw from Wichita ... who cut his buddy down ... dug for him a shallow grave, and laid his body down... half a mile from Tucson by the morning light ... one man down and another to go, my old buddy, you're moving much too slow...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAv71VbdkBc

    Replies: @bruce county

  61. @Mr. Anon
    A very good article, Steve. Your analysis is sound; your recommended course of action might well be fruitful. It will be ignored completely, because you are a "bad person".

    Just getting a few of the relevant influencers to say the things you are saying might be useful. Who would those people be? Sports figures? Rappers? (I don't pretend to know.) If LeBron James or Colin Kaepernick, instead of taking a knee during the national anthem or blathering on about systemic racism were to say instead: "Hey, homies, stop shooting up funerals. Stop shooting people. You're making black people look bad", it might help.

    Maybe if - I know this is radical - some white people could actually speak out on the matter; just bluntly say: "hey, black people, you know why we often don't trust you? Because you commit a lot of murders. Because too many of you are hot-headed and short-sighted. Cool it." Or at least: "You responsible law-abiding black people - tell your race-brothers to cool it." One could even add (and this would be true): Europeans used to do it too. Our ancestors in the middle-ages and renaissance were often hot-headed. They killed each other in affairs of honor over stupid trifles, or in drunken brawls (some of them still do, but not nearly as much). They eventually ramped it down when sober-minded people demanded that they stop acting like d**ks. We did it. You can do it too.

    Replies: @anon, @Odin

    Our ancestors in the middle-ages and renaissance were often hot-headed. They killed each other in affairs of honor over stupid trifles, or in drunken brawls (some of them still do, but not nearly as much). They eventually ramped it down when sober-minded people demanded that they stop acting like d**ks.

    And at least in some countries, killers tended to be hanged (or equivalent). Had a beneficial effect on the gene pool.

  62. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr McKenna

    It could be that some early mass shootings were more or less forgotten. But to this Baby Boomer, the U. of Texas tower shooter in 1966 (?) seems like the first notorious one, and the I Don't Like Mondays girl who shot up a school outside San Diego in the late 1970s was the first school shooter.

    There may have been more murderous arson incidents in the past.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Arlo L. Ramsbottom, @Buzz Mohawk, @Achmed E. Newman, @SkylertheWeird, @guest007, @FPD72, @Prester John

    Yes, the University of Texas library tower shooting was in 1966 (August 1). There is a good documentary about the shooting that was made in 2015, with the simple name of Tower. It is available for rental on Amazon Prime.

  63. @kaganovitch
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Do you mean the horrific Bath School bombing?

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    Yes, and I think there were other things.

    It is not that anything today is new, but that our current environment promotes the growth of things that have always been under the surface.

  64. @Captain Tripps
    @wren

    That's pretty cool. Will they have life-like robots that play the part of town barkeep, whorehouse madame and bad-ass gunslinger for tourist entertainment?

    Replies: @wren

    Yeah, I think they are in secret talks with Boston Dynamics about that, but it’s all underground in a mine at this point. Maybe some AI research too.

    The big fire they had recently was just cover up for a robot lab accident, I hear.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-21/a-california-ghost-town-with-a-murderous-past-suffers-new-tragedy-as-famed-hotel-goes-up-in-flames

    • LOL: Captain Tripps
  65. @Gary in Gramercy
    @Achmed E. Newman

    That was "Rainy Days and Mondays."

    The Boomtown Rats (led by self-righteous PITA Bob Geldof) gave us "I Don't Like Mondays."

    Tomorrow: how to distinguish David Essex from (Lord) David Dundas.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    OK, good, Gary, because I love her and her brother’s music, and she had enough trouble as it was to now be posthumously pinned with a mass murder rap.

    So, it was the Boomtown Rats who done it?

    Tomorrow: how to distinguish David Essex from (Lord) David Dundas.

    I can keep David Dundas straight from Davis Essex, just because I never heard of David Essex. Who hasn’t heard of David Dundas? Must be living under a rock…

    However, every time I hear about Home Office guy Jack Straw, I’ve just got to go listen to the ’72 Europe tour version of Jack Straw from Wichita … who cut his buddy down … dug for him a shallow grave, and laid his body down… half a mile from Tucson by the morning light … one man down and another to go, my old buddy, you’re moving much too slow…

    • Replies: @bruce county
    @Achmed E. Newman

    C'mon Man...LOL

    How could you have not heard this song from David Essex Achmed.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XfmHyG8y-g

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  66. I have never seen a race of people who seem to revel in stereotyping themselves.

    Then again, as Our Betters will tell us, this is due to “systemic racism”, with the only real solution being “reparations.” Lol.

  67. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr McKenna

    It could be that some early mass shootings were more or less forgotten. But to this Baby Boomer, the U. of Texas tower shooter in 1966 (?) seems like the first notorious one, and the I Don't Like Mondays girl who shot up a school outside San Diego in the late 1970s was the first school shooter.

    There may have been more murderous arson incidents in the past.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Arlo L. Ramsbottom, @Buzz Mohawk, @Achmed E. Newman, @SkylertheWeird, @guest007, @FPD72, @Prester John

    I remember both the Speck and (Charles) Whitman Texas Tower shootings quite well. Of interest is that they both took place within three weeks or so of each other. I still maintain that it was the JFK assassination that really triggered something in this country’s collective psyche–you can almost trace this country’s downward trajectory from 22 November 1963.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @Prester John

    Agreed: that was the dam breaking all of a sudden. Before long the Vietnam War became an obvious disaster, riots overcame city after city, hippies discovered drugs (among other things), even more assassinations occurred (RFK and MLK most prominent among them)--the list goes on. Seems like before Nov '63 the nation was ensconced in an agreeable, dreamlike trance. I wish I'd lived in the 50s.


  68. By the way, I think conservative writers have grounds for a massive class action against Google

    https://ungoogle.us

  69. @Rich
    I wish White folks would stop telling people that holding their guns sideways is bad. Are we trying to teach these guys how to kill more people? What's the point of shooting someone if you can't look cool doing it?

    Replies: @bruce county

    I wish White folks would stop telling people that holding their guns sideways is bad

    It’s the way they come in the box. Thought it’s doubtful hood straps are bought new in a box.

  70. @Mr. Anon

    Mass Shootings Are Up 72% This Summer Over 2010
     
    One might add that they were mostly peaceful shootings. Except that this joke is already played, and in a remarkably short period of time. So fast are things proceeding now.

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe

    Didn’t Steve mean “2019”, not “2010”?

  71. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Gary in Gramercy

    OK, good, Gary, because I love her and her brother's music, and she had enough trouble as it was to now be posthumously pinned with a mass murder rap.

    So, it was the Boomtown Rats who done it?


    Tomorrow: how to distinguish David Essex from (Lord) David Dundas.
     
    I can keep David Dundas straight from Davis Essex, just because I never heard of David Essex. Who hasn't heard of David Dundas? Must be living under a rock...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwGlhKcEBjY

    However, every time I hear about Home Office guy Jack Straw, I've just got to go listen to the '72 Europe tour version of Jack Straw from Wichita ... who cut his buddy down ... dug for him a shallow grave, and laid his body down... half a mile from Tucson by the morning light ... one man down and another to go, my old buddy, you're moving much too slow...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAv71VbdkBc

    Replies: @bruce county

    C’mon Man…LOL

    How could you have not heard this song from David Essex Achmed.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @bruce county

    Thanks, Bruce. I've heard this song many times, but I don't know why I never had the name of the artist in my head.

  72. @bruce county
    @Achmed E. Newman

    C'mon Man...LOL

    How could you have not heard this song from David Essex Achmed.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XfmHyG8y-g

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks, Bruce. I’ve heard this song many times, but I don’t know why I never had the name of the artist in my head.

  73. @Anon
    @Alden

    You know all those blacks who keep complaining in college about how all the whites have privilege that helps them pass their courses? That whites were raised in a culturally enriched environment that gave them an edge in college?

    That's nonsense. It's not a case of, "They already learned the subject before they went to college," that bewildered blacks seem to think it is. Many of those white kids didn't get any particular special learning privileges. It's just that yes, they really do learn that fast in class and retain what they learn better than lower-IQ blacks.

    Now, blacks can understand Asians. They see Asian grinding away at their studies and think that Asians have gotten where they have because they see Asians working hard and hear stories of them being pushed by their crazy-ambitious parents.

    But whites bewilder blacks. Because things are easy for smart whites, they're often lazy and don't work or study much, and as a rule, they're nowhere near the grinds that Asians are.

    But what smart whites effortlessly achieve is so outside the personal experience of blacks that it looks witchcraft to blacks. This leaves blacks agog and flailing for answers. Smart Asians look normal because Asians make visible effort. In comparison, smart whites often don't make visible effort, so blacks think whites are somehow cheating the system.

    What's really going on is that some 120 IQ black, who is used to peers with 80 IQ points, is stunned by white classmates with IQs that are 140-160. 120 point IQ blacks have no personal experience or psychological preparation for dealing with a whole classroom of whites that are 1-2 standard deviations smarter.

    To admit that your white classmates really are that much smarter is ego-crushing for a struggling black, so it has to be anything else except admitting that you're not as smart.

    Replies: @not a hacker

    The problem with this is that blacks only hang around other blacks. How would they even view whites engaged in the process of casual achievement? I used to live with the kind of people you describe. At Berkeley, had a roommate who didn’t even open the book for a 200-level math class until the week before the final cuz he was busy with his girlfriend. Then he scored the highest grade in the class. How do did you even pass physics at Cal in 1980 while bonging and drinking all the time? Did you know that at Berkeley, blacks even have a separate library?

  74. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    We can ask blacks to knock if off, but it takes two to tango. It’s like the Mexican Drug Trade. Mexicans are bad to sell it, but Americans are bad to demand it. Without the American Demand, the trade wouldn’t exist. But too many Americans want the drugs.

    BBB or Bad Black Behavior is something that often upsets whites in real life, but it is also in high demand among whites. Whites love bad boy rappers who act like louts. Whites cheer for tattooed black athletes who act like thugs. White consumers cheer on all kinds of idiotic black behavior and expressions in pop culture and music. Whites like Eminem and others imitate the worst aspects of black pathology.

    Indeed, notice black reputation among whites have gone up most with the rise of black pathology, thuggery, and aggression. Look at the BLM craziness. Why should blacks act less crazy when the crazier they act, the more accolades they get? Besides, in a crazy world, it helps to act More Crazy to get more attention. Homos and trannies proved that. They’ve acted crazy and weird, and got all the love. So, blacks figure they must also act out and make a spectacle of themselves to get the love in Idiot America.

    Now, white attitudes surely owe to media manipulation and what they soaked up from the academia. But then, who controls those? It’s mainly Jews, and so, people need to tell Jews to knock it off. Knock off the promotion of black thuggery as something cool and hip. Knock off the ‘woke’ promotion of blacks as saintly tragic victims of white ‘racism’. Most dead blacks are not Emett Tills(and even the real Emmett Till wasn’t the ‘Emmett Till’ of legend). Also, Jewish Hollywood needs to knock it off with movies and TV shows that encourage murderous rage against whites by blacks and ‘radical’ types.

    But the only way to speak truth to Jewish Power is to have white people wake up, stand up, and assert their own identity, rights, and truth. Whites need to tell Jews and blacks to Knock It Off with the bogus narrative that Jews and blacks are ESSENTIALLY noble. All humans are semi-animals and half-devils. Jews and blacks can be plenty evil too.

    Black megalomania is fed by white cuckery. Whites cuck to blacks as demigods of sports and pop music. It’s one thing to appreciate athleticism and good music, but whites are into wussy worship-mode. And MLK led a great movement, but he was no angel. He must be remembered as a man, not some messiah. And all those Stephen King and Joyce Carol Oates stories with blacks as godly figures are ludicrous. But all such fed into white cuckery that fed into black megalomania. Why shouldn’t blacks be megalo when whites are washing their feet, worshiping MLK and Mandela, and sucking up to blackness as if it’s innately holy? When white men are cucking their wives to Negro men? Blacks are stupid, but so are whites. Pushers exist because junkies demand more. White junkies are addicted to Negro-Worship, and naturally blacks want to play the part of demigods when whites can’t get enough of it.

    If whites boycotted much of bad black behavior in sports, rap, and the like, things might change. If whites were critical and factual(and courageous) in their talk about race, things may change. But even white ‘conservatives’ are too chicken to speak the most obvious truth. That worthless moron Mike Pence acts all tough against foreign nations, but when he was humiliated at the performance of HAMILTON — why would any sane white person attend such a thing in the first place —, he spoke like a classic cuck maggot.

    But the main purveyors of Negro as new god have been the Jews, and it’s about time whites stopped cucking to Jews and just told them to get off the high horse and knock if off. These Jews commit mass murder in Middle East against Palestinians and Arabs/Muslims, but they are preaching about racial justice. Don’t these lowlifes have any sense of shame?

    Tell them to knock if off.

    • Agree: JohnnyWalker123
  75. @Prester John
    @Steve Sailer

    I remember both the Speck and (Charles) Whitman Texas Tower shootings quite well. Of interest is that they both took place within three weeks or so of each other. I still maintain that it was the JFK assassination that really triggered something in this country's collective psyche--you can almost trace this country's downward trajectory from 22 November 1963.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    Agreed: that was the dam breaking all of a sudden. Before long the Vietnam War became an obvious disaster, riots overcame city after city, hippies discovered drugs (among other things), even more assassinations occurred (RFK and MLK most prominent among them)–the list goes on. Seems like before Nov ’63 the nation was ensconced in an agreeable, dreamlike trance. I wish I’d lived in the 50s.

  76. Steven Pinker and John Mueller argue that dueling among European and American upper-crust men died out largely because of ridicule. Perhaps black comedians/social media influencers could try making fun of violent criminals?

    Formal dueling was not, of course, an American invention. It emerged during the Renaissance as a measure to curtail assassinations, vendettas, and street brawls among aristocrats and their retinues. When one man felt that his honor had been impugned, he could challenge the other to a duel and cap the violence at a single death, with no hard feelings among the defeated man’s clan or entourage. But as the essayist Arthur Krystal observes, “The gentry . . . took honor so seriously that just about every offense became an offense against honor. Two Englishmen dueled because their dogs had fought. Two Italian gentlemen fell out over the respective merits of Tasso and Ariosto, an argument that ended when one combatant, mortally wounded, admitted that he had not read the poet he was championing. And Byron’s great-uncle William, the fifth Baron Byron, killed a man after disagreeing about whose property furnished more game.”47

    Dueling persisted in the 18th and 19th centuries, despite denunciations by the church and prohibitions by many governments. Samuel Johnson defended the custom, writing, “A man may shoot the man who invades his character, as he may shoot him who attempts to break into his house.” Dueling sucked in such luminaries as Voltaire, Napoleon, the Duke of Wellington, Robert Peel, Tolstoy, Pushkin, and the mathematician Évariste Galois, the last two fatally. The buildup, climax, and denouement of a duel were made to order for fiction writers, and the dramatic possibilities were put to use by Sir Walter Scott, Dumas père, de Maupassant, Conrad, Tolstoy, Pushkin, Chekhov, and Thomas Mann.

    The career of dueling showcases a puzzling phenomenon we will often encounter: a category of violence can be embedded in a civilization for centuries and then vanish into thin air. When gentlemen agreed to a duel, they were fighting not for money or land or even women but for honor, the strange commodity that exists because everyone believes that everyone else believes that it exists. Honor is a bubble that can be inflated by some parts of human nature, such as the drive for prestige and the entrenchment of norms, and popped by others, such as a sense of humor.48 The institution of formal dueling petered out in the English-speaking world by the middle of the 19th century, and in the rest of Europe in the following decades. Historians have noted that the institution was buried not so much by legal bans or moral disapproval as by ridicule. When “solemn gentlemen went to the field of honor only to be laughed at by the younger generation, that was more than any custom, no matter how sanctified by tradition, could endure.” 49 Today the expression “Take ten paces, turn, and fire” is more likely to call to mind Bugs Bunny and Yosemite Sam than “men of honor.”

    View post on imgur.com

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Stolen Valor Detective

    Nabokov supported dueling up through his 1970 novel "Ada."

    His father, the former Justice Minister of the reform government of 1905, had challenged a scurrilous right wing editor to a duel. the editor backed down.

  77. Don’t avoid the controversial questions:

    1) Is that graph a brontosaurus, or an apatosaurus?

    2) If “mass shootings” are measured in kilograms, are weight shootings measured in pounds?

    • Replies: @bruce county
    @Reg Cæsar

    If “mass shootings” are measured in kilograms, are weight shootings measured in pounds?

    Honestly... they should be measured in stones.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  78. @Stolen Valor Detective
    Steven Pinker and John Mueller argue that dueling among European and American upper-crust men died out largely because of ridicule. Perhaps black comedians/social media influencers could try making fun of violent criminals?

    Formal dueling was not, of course, an American invention. It emerged during the Renaissance as a measure to curtail assassinations, vendettas, and street brawls among aristocrats and their retinues. When one man felt that his honor had been impugned, he could challenge the other to a duel and cap the violence at a single death, with no hard feelings among the defeated man’s clan or entourage. But as the essayist Arthur Krystal observes, “The gentry . . . took honor so seriously that just about every offense became an offense against honor. Two Englishmen dueled because their dogs had fought. Two Italian gentlemen fell out over the respective merits of Tasso and Ariosto, an argument that ended when one combatant, mortally wounded, admitted that he had not read the poet he was championing. And Byron’s great-uncle William, the fifth Baron Byron, killed a man after disagreeing about whose property furnished more game.”47

    Dueling persisted in the 18th and 19th centuries, despite denunciations by the church and prohibitions by many governments. Samuel Johnson defended the custom, writing, “A man may shoot the man who invades his character, as he may shoot him who attempts to break into his house.” Dueling sucked in such luminaries as Voltaire, Napoleon, the Duke of Wellington, Robert Peel, Tolstoy, Pushkin, and the mathematician Évariste Galois, the last two fatally. The buildup, climax, and denouement of a duel were made to order for fiction writers, and the dramatic possibilities were put to use by Sir Walter Scott, Dumas père, de Maupassant, Conrad, Tolstoy, Pushkin, Chekhov, and Thomas Mann.

    The career of dueling showcases a puzzling phenomenon we will often encounter: a category of violence can be embedded in a civilization for centuries and then vanish into thin air. When gentlemen agreed to a duel, they were fighting not for money or land or even women but for honor, the strange commodity that exists because everyone believes that everyone else believes that it exists. Honor is a bubble that can be inflated by some parts of human nature, such as the drive for prestige and the entrenchment of norms, and popped by others, such as a sense of humor.48 The institution of formal dueling petered out in the English-speaking world by the middle of the 19th century, and in the rest of Europe in the following decades. Historians have noted that the institution was buried not so much by legal bans or moral disapproval as by ridicule. When “solemn gentlemen went to the field of honor only to be laughed at by the younger generation, that was more than any custom, no matter how sanctified by tradition, could endure.” 49 Today the expression “Take ten paces, turn, and fire” is more likely to call to mind Bugs Bunny and Yosemite Sam than “men of honor.”
     
    https://imgur.com/a/s2ILNXE

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Nabokov supported dueling up through his 1970 novel “Ada.”

    His father, the former Justice Minister of the reform government of 1905, had challenged a scurrilous right wing editor to a duel. the editor backed down.

  79. @Anon
    This article is pretty funny. A black 'activist' was shot to death by a friend who was aiming at a passing car. With friends like that, who needs enemies? Black are poison to each other.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-caleb-reed-murder-charges-20200901-26tr2j7u3jglnmaqwdjzirglx4-story.html

    Replies: @Wake up, @Change that Matters, @anonymous1963

    To everybody.

  80. @Reg Cæsar
    Don't avoid the controversial questions:

    1) Is that graph a brontosaurus, or an apatosaurus?

    2) If "mass shootings" are measured in kilograms, are weight shootings measured in pounds?

    Replies: @bruce county

    If “mass shootings” are measured in kilograms, are weight shootings measured in pounds?

    Honestly… they should be measured in stones.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @bruce county


    Honestly… they should be measured in stones.

     

    As if authorities had any stones these days!

    Say, if you lose 14 lbs in two weeks, is that a fortlight?
  81. @El Dato
    Some reading for later about the UK:

    Low-effort phraseology-driven Red/Black Revolutionary LARPing with clear words and probably more sexual undercurrents than one would care to admit:

    The ‘Oxford Black Panther’ behind Britain’s first black-led political party vows to make white men ‘our slaves’

    Replies: @Change that Matters, @Anonymous

    That’s the Labour Party’s job.

  82. @bruce county
    @Reg Cæsar

    If “mass shootings” are measured in kilograms, are weight shootings measured in pounds?

    Honestly... they should be measured in stones.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Honestly… they should be measured in stones.

    As if authorities had any stones these days!

    Say, if you lose 14 lbs in two weeks, is that a fortlight?

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