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You can see the impact of Black Lives Matter since Ferguson in 8/2014 in the approximately 160% increase in the number of mass shooting incidents from 2014’s 272 mass shootings to 2021’s projected 715 mass shootings.

A “mass shooting” is defined as an incident leaving four or more wounded and/or killed. Although in the most notorious mass shootings, such as Columbine, the shooter (or at Columbine: shooters) sticks around to finish off the wounded at the cost of his own death or imprisonment, in the great majority of common mass shootings the shooter (often shooters) skedaddles before the police arrive, thus leaving wounded on the ground.

Sailer’s Law of Mass Shootings says:

If Wounded > Dead ~ Black shooter(s)
If Dead > Wounded ~ Nonblack shooter

Unfortunately, Gun Violence Archive doesn’t keep track of the race of shooters and victims in mass shootings. The NYT reported in 2016 that in 2015 almost three-fourths of the shooters and victims in mass shootings were black. I looked up the 15 mass shootings in 2020 in which at least 10 were struck by bullets. At least 13 of the 15 took place at black social events (3 funerals, 10 parties), with the other two racially ambiguous due to the newspapers’ reticence.

There was a 40% increase in mass shootings during the first BLM era from 2014 to 2016.

Then, a 12% drop during Jeff Sessions’ two years as Attorney General as he terminated some of the Obama Department of Justice’s policy initiatives that had helped contribute to the first BLM era. I also have the impression that after the July 2016 Dallas and Baton Rouge BLM Massacres of cops, and Trump’s subsequent election, liberal donors like George Soros eased off the gas pedal of encouraging black street activists in favor of a more respectable-looking strategy of funding Larry Krassner-types in district attorney elections.

Then comes the obscure turning point of 2019, when mass shootings went up 24%. My impression from looking at gun murders overall week by week was the murders were still drifting down in the first half of 2019 and then started going back up in the second half, as if in anticipation of the tumultuous events of 2020. But I’ve never seen anybody even speculate about the causes of 2019’s unfortunate turn-around, or even document it in detail.

Then, in the second BLM era of 2020 to who knows when, mass shootings exploded 47% in 2020 over 2019 and are on pace for a 17% rise in 2021 over 2020, for a total projected rise of over 160% since the good old days before we were supposed to worship Black Lives Matter.

Mass shootings represent an almost cartoonish exaggeration of the worst of African-American culture. So this enormous increase in the worst and most stereotypical black behavior during the Great Awokening during which Americans are supposed to flatter blacks and never criticize their behavior is damning evidence that The Establishment’s obsession with condemning white racism is bringing out the worst in blacks.

 
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  1. At one time, the best element in African-American culture (gospel music) was expressly anti-alcohol, anti-smoking, anti-gambling, anti-dancing, anti-violence, anti-promiscuity, anti-laziness, etc. The moral values were identical to those of white Christians.

    • Replies: @PaceLaw
    @For what it's worth

    While I’d like to agree with your sentiment, I do not believe that most African-Americans endorsed this position in terms of harsh or stern moral standards (like say, Mormons). Each of the vices that you listed have been thriving in the black community since practically forever. It was only a very small element of the black community that was against these sins and clearly they lost the war in terms of advancing their position.

    , @74v56ruthiyj
    @For what it's worth

    A large number of Black preachers were/are in it for the money and the cooze, MLK, Jesse Jackson, and Ralph Abernathy among them. The tail-chasing, tithe-stealing preacher is a staple of Black folklore. Sometimes it's a father-to-son-to-grandson thing. The congregation knows, but accepts it as normal.

    Replies: @Barnard, @magilla, @Gary in Gramercy, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Almost Missouri
    @For what it's worth


    At one time,
     
    Key words. But how many Sister Rosetta Tharpes* or Mahalia Jacksons are there now? I count about zero. And on the other hand how many violence-promoting rappers are there now? Thousands, maybe millions.

    The moral values were identical to those of white Christians.
     
    Black Christianity has been heavily infiltrated by leftism, to the point that many (most?) black churches are little more than "social justice" fronts with a thin veneer of gospel ("liberation theology" [i.e., liberation from theology, as it is sometimes unblushingly described in the Latino churches]). Obama's pastor Jeremiah Wright wasn't some weird aberration. That's what black churches are like now.

    White Christianity has been heavily infiltrated by leftism too, but whereas black (and to a lesser extent Latino) modern pseudo-Christianity inculcates resentment against whites, white modern pseudo-Christianity inculcates a false sense of guilt and other weird, self-destructive doctrines: climate changeism, etc.

    In other words, it's worst case scenarios all the way around.

    ------

    *And for good measure, Sister Rosetta's recordings were burned up in the 2008 Universal fire, so now it is even less likely anyone will stumble upon her accidentally.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @PaceLaw

    , @AndrewR
    @For what it's worth

    You think dancing is bad? Screw you.

    , @Ganderson
    @For what it's worth

    I heard a version of “Comes Love” by Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong the other day- a long, steep decline from that to “Wet Ass Pussy”.

    Replies: @Kylie, @JMcG

    , @John Johnson
    @For what it's worth

    At one time, the best element in African-American culture (gospel music) was expressly anti-alcohol, anti-smoking, anti-gambling, anti-dancing, anti-violence, anti-promiscuity, anti-laziness, etc. The moral values were identical to those of white Christians.

    Doesn't matter what the songs are about if they aren't followed.

    Booze on Saturday and church on Sunday. Christian missionaries wrote about how Africans had this problem. They would "forget" all about their newly found morals during the week.

    There is a lot of conservative wishful thinking when it comes to Christianity as a solution. I wish that were the case but Blacks on paper are already more Christian than Whites.

    But with that said there certainly is a problem with Black subculture. It's unbelievable that Democrats spend so much time obsessing over guns while looking the other way on music that celebrates killing and pimping. Republicans however are afraid of talking about it as well and instead stick to their base.

    Replies: @Rob

  2. At least 14 youth have been shot/wounded in the last two weeks in Aurora, Colorado. FYI Aurora is the dark suburb of Denver, on it’s Eastern border. Apparently there all expected to survive but I wonder how many will be permanently disabled and or peeing into a colostomy bag for the rest of their lives. https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/community-leader-reacts-to-most-recent-aurora-shooting/73-1ad38682-fd2d-4876-9961-fa9a781128d8

    • Replies: @PaceLaw
    @George Taylor

    Wow, I used to live in Aurora back in the late 90s. I recall it being the quintessential middle-America suburban town, with very little in the way of diversity (other than a small Mexican population). It is hard to believe that “urban“ crime has invaded Aurora.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @George Taylor

    Just a small correction, George: That bag is not for peeing in.

    That's a quibble, but you bring up the very good point that when people tally up deaths, whether it's from war or this black disfunction, they don't think so much about the people whose lives are permanently ruined. Some are not nearly worth living as much as they were before the serious injuries.

    It's not like in the old Western movies, just fall down, groan and then, that's it.

    , @Anonymous
    @George Taylor


    At least 14 youth have been shot/wounded in the last two weeks in Aurora, Colorado. FYI Aurora is the dark suburb of Denver, on it’s Eastern border.
     
    Good news, the solution is on its way!

    https://denver.cbslocal.com/2021/11/22/gun-buyback-aurora-denver/

    Gun Buyback Programs To Be Launched In Aurora And Denver Amid Increasing Crime

    By Mekialaya White
    November 22, 2021

    AURORA, Colo. (CBS4) — Aurora and Denver city leaders say now is the time to drive change after recent youth violence in their communities.

    Our hearts break at the violence we have seen in our communities, especially since the start of the pandemic. Our residents should never feel afraid to spend an afternoon at a community park or to attend a neighborhood school,” a press release issued by the cities read on Monday.

    Starting in March 2022, a new gun buyback program will be implemented in hopes of remedying the problem.

    “Our goal is to get guns off the street. What we’re seeing is an extraordinary uptick in crime in both Denver and Aurora,” Denver District 5 Councilwoman Amanda Sawyer told CBS4’s Mekialaya White via Zoom...
     

    Replies: @Alfa158

  3. The Establishment’s obsession with condemning white racism is bringing out the worst in blacks.

    For sure the Establishment has blood, lots of it, on their hands.

    But it is not hard to bring out the worst in blacks.

    Any ideas on how to bring out the best in blacks??

    • Replies: @SFG
    @lavoisier

    Jesus.

    Replies: @Mike_from_SGV, @Reg Cæsar

    , @SimpleSong
    @lavoisier

    Plane ticket to Liberia.

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @lavoisier

    Why do you care, outside of helping whites. We have no responsibility to these people or any other people besides our own.

    Don't be a part of the Sperg Right. Learn to love your own people, your own family.

    Replies: @lavoisier, @AndrewR

    , @Wade Hampton
    @lavoisier

    I don't much care, having moved away from a bad demographic area to a pretty good one.

    But if anybody wanted to actually mitigate the problem of black misbehavior there are three parts to the solution

    1) I agree with SFG's comment that Christianity is part of the solution.

    2) Stringent and violent law enforcement is another part, probably the most important.

    3) Eliminate government aid to families with dependent children. Let private charities like churches deal with that. Try to minimize black reproduction without a man in the home.

    What is the likelihood of all that happening? Close to zero, in fact the Ruling Class is pushing all these changes in the opposite direction. This is evidence that the Ruling Class wants to aggravate the problem to destablize normal society.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Justvisiting

    , @AndrewR
    @lavoisier

    Well when you're digging a hole that you don't want to be in, the first step is to stop digging.

    "Intellectuals" like Ibram X Kendi are heavily promoted by the entire elite class of our country. In my mind at least, "Dr." Kendi is best known for his repeated insistence that "there's nothing wrong with black people" and that white supremacy is the cause of literally EVERYTHING that is bad for blacks and/or that blacks don't like (note: when blacks do, in fact, like things that are bad for them, the harm done to them is blamed on white people; and when blacks dislike things that are or would be good for them, people like Kendi rationalize those good things into being bad things).

    Robin DiAngelo, also heavily promoted by our elites, has an identical ideology except she's a boomer Jewish woman instead of a millennial black man.

    These are but two of the most prominent proponents of our state religion which is objectively harmful to the short term interests of everyone except the elite and their lackeys, and harmful to the long term interests of the entire world including the elites and their descendants.

    Since a disease cannot be properly treated until it is properly diagnosed, a critical mass of society must come to understand what I have just written. Until that happens, nothing can improve.

    Replies: @SFG

    , @Currahee
    @lavoisier

    Negro Christianity was a mostly musical experience.

    , @Colin Wright
    @lavoisier

    'Any ideas on how to bring out the best in blacks??'

    Study the opening scenes of Gone with the Wind.

    ...failing that, Jim Crow kinda worked.

    ...but seriously, boys and girls. People have to shake this mischievous idea that blacks somehow could be, should be, are the equal of whites and other races, or could be treated as if they are.

    They can't. Four-fifths of the problems we see right now stem from trying to pretend otherwise.

    It's not like blacks are inherently evil, or even inherently dysfunctional. They've become that way, because we've insisted on trying to make them into something that they're not.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @lavoisier


    Any ideas on how to bring out the best in blacks??
     
    Sorry, that program here ended in 1865.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NTa7ps6sNU
  4. Before the 1970s there was that guy at the University of Texas who had a brain tumor. 1966. There was some other incident two or three decades before that, involving two families and a legal dispute I believe. Anything else? Back in the “bad old days”??

    What is now the rule was once the exception.

    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    @Hangnail Hans

    Looking it up, I was thinking of the Kelayres killings. It was the only such event in the 1930s aside from a cops and robbers shootout. One or two in the 1940s, depending on how you count. None at all in the 1950s.

    , @Steve Sailer
    @Hangnail Hans

    There were crazy things like in the 1930s a local political figure killed a few dozen kids by blowing up a school.

    It would be interesting to know how many bystanders were hit in Chicago gangland killings during Prohibition.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Kronos, @Joe Stalin, @J.Ross

    , @74v56ruthiyj
    @Hangnail Hans

    IIRC, a White man named Richard Speck killed seven Filipino nursing students who shared an apartment, about 1968 in Chicago.

    , @J.Ross
    @Hangnail Hans

    Somewhere I have a pic of two good ol' boys in lawnchairs with shotguns. Caption: some Monday-rejecting idiot said he was going to shoot up the school. So every dad showed up with a gun. And the idiot never showed.
    Shooting was the biggest school sport in the 50s and there wasn't one school shooting, there wasn't one.

  5. @lavoisier

    The Establishment’s obsession with condemning white racism is bringing out the worst in blacks.
     
    For sure the Establishment has blood, lots of it, on their hands.

    But it is not hard to bring out the worst in blacks.


    Any ideas on how to bring out the best in blacks??

    Replies: @SFG, @SimpleSong, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Wade Hampton, @AndrewR, @Currahee, @Colin Wright, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Jesus.

    • Replies: @Mike_from_SGV
    @SFG

    But blacks (or maybe its just their females) are famously the most churchgoing and religious, but it doesn't seem to be producing very good results.

    Replies: @PaceLaw, @thenon, @Anon, @Currahee

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @SFG


    Jesus.
     
    Was that meant in exasperation, or evangelization?
  6. sticks around to finish off the wounded at the cost of his own death or imprisonment

    Martin Bryant is still alive in Tasmania. So is the maternally-deprived schizophrene Anders Breivik in Norway. He could conceivably be released next year.

  7. Questions.

    1. Why does George Soros fund radical Black street activists?

    2. Why do Blacks shoot each other at funerals? Like, seriously, what the hell? A shooting at a funeral? People bring loaded guns to funerals?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Funeral shootings are typically drive-bys where one gang knows another gang will be gathered.

    , @Wade Hampton
    @JohnnyWalker123


    1. Why does George Soros fund radical Black street activists?
     
    To destabilize normal society. It's what the Ruling Class does to maintain their control.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @JohnnyWalker123


    People bring loaded guns to funerals?
     
    Makes more sense than bringing an unloaded gun.

    No, they have no respect for anything, Johnny.
    , @Almost Missouri
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Why do Blacks shoot each other at funerals? Like, seriously, what the hell?
     
    It's one of the few times when they know where their targets will be. They're just being practical.

    And if they miss and hit a someone else, that person is likely related to the target, which is kind of like hitting their intended target just less directly, in their minds.

    So, guaranteed target availability, and misses can still count as damaging the enemy, what's not to like from their point of view?

    If you're not spelunker-tier at plumbing depravity, you can't understand these people. Or the Left in general, I might add.

    Replies: @SFG

    , @Rob McX
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Why do Blacks shoot each other at funerals?
     
    They're getting a kickback from the undertakers?
  8. @lavoisier

    The Establishment’s obsession with condemning white racism is bringing out the worst in blacks.
     
    For sure the Establishment has blood, lots of it, on their hands.

    But it is not hard to bring out the worst in blacks.


    Any ideas on how to bring out the best in blacks??

    Replies: @SFG, @SimpleSong, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Wade Hampton, @AndrewR, @Currahee, @Colin Wright, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Plane ticket to Liberia.

  9. @Hangnail Hans
    Before the 1970s there was that guy at the University of Texas who had a brain tumor. 1966. There was some other incident two or three decades before that, involving two families and a legal dispute I believe. Anything else? Back in the "bad old days"??

    What is now the rule was once the exception.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Steve Sailer, @74v56ruthiyj, @J.Ross

    Looking it up, I was thinking of the Kelayres killings. It was the only such event in the 1930s aside from a cops and robbers shootout. One or two in the 1940s, depending on how you count. None at all in the 1950s.

  10. Updating recent topics.

    Waukesha will hold a moment of silence today, marking one week since a car drove through a city Christmas parade, killing six people and injuring scores of others.

    It’s official! Raped women assigned fewer intersectional pokemon points than any Muslim.
    https://news.yahoo.com/canadian-school-district-cancels-speech-011249439.html

    A woman who lived through kidnapping and sexual slavery at the hands of ISIS had an event cancelled by a Canadian school board due to fears of “Islamophobia.”

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    @New Dealer


    The Australian government will introduce new legislation forcing social media companies to “unmask” anonymous users who post offensive comments.

    The new initiative seeks to define social media giants as publishers, making them responsible for the user-generated content on their platforms, as well as to introduce special mechanisms through which anyone can file a complaint and demand a post takedown if they think they are being defamed, bullied or harassed, Prime Minister Scott Morrison announced during a televised press briefing on Sunday:

    "The online world should not be a wild west where bots and bigots and trolls and others are anonymously going around and can harm people."
     

    (RT)
    , @Abolish_public_education
    @New Dealer

    A self-driving car blew a fuse (or it was trying to escape from a chop shop).

    , @meh
    @New Dealer

    "a car drove through a city Christmas parade"

    You can always tell when the MSM is trying to cover up something when they resort to this passive language.

    A car drove through a Christmas parade? By itself? It's sort of like a natural disaster like a buffalo stampede or a flash flood?

    Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    , @Adam Smith
    @New Dealer

    https://www.clayandbuck.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/FT-860-x-380-112621new-york-times-Tearaway.jpg

    Waukesha SUV Charged With Six Counts Of Murder

    Meanwhile in Wisconsin...

    Waukesha will hold a moment of silence today, marking one week since a violent BLM inspired black nationalist plowed his SUV through a Christmas parade, killing six white people and injuring scores of others in an anti-white terror attack.

    , @Rob McX
    @New Dealer


    ...a car drove through a city Christmas parade...
     
    Funny how AR-15s never achieve that kind of autonomy.
  11. @New Dealer
    Updating recent topics.

    https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1465028734453493764

    Waukesha will hold a moment of silence today, marking one week since a car drove through a city Christmas parade, killing six people and injuring scores of others.

     

    It’s official! Raped women assigned fewer intersectional pokemon points than any Muslim.
    https://news.yahoo.com/canadian-school-district-cancels-speech-011249439.html

    A woman who lived through kidnapping and sexual slavery at the hands of ISIS had an event cancelled by a Canadian school board due to fears of "Islamophobia."
     

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Abolish_public_education, @meh, @Adam Smith, @Rob McX

    The Australian government will introduce new legislation forcing social media companies to “unmask” anonymous users who post offensive comments.

    The new initiative seeks to define social media giants as publishers, making them responsible for the user-generated content on their platforms, as well as to introduce special mechanisms through which anyone can file a complaint and demand a post takedown if they think they are being defamed, bullied or harassed, Prime Minister Scott Morrison announced during a televised press briefing on Sunday:

    “The online world should not be a wild west where bots and bigots and trolls and others are anonymously going around and can harm people.”

    (RT)

  12. @SFG
    @lavoisier

    Jesus.

    Replies: @Mike_from_SGV, @Reg Cæsar

    But blacks (or maybe its just their females) are famously the most churchgoing and religious, but it doesn’t seem to be producing very good results.

    • Replies: @PaceLaw
    @Mike_from_SGV

    Well that’s a good point. I would guess that much of the church going in the black community is either performative (keeping “Up with the Joneses” and for appearances sake) or as part of the “prosperity gospel“ where certain actions will bring you riches in this world, almost along the lines of buying a lottery ticket (which, if you are not aware, is still a very big thing in the back community. I was at a gas station recently where a lady literally paid out $200 in cash for lottery tickets. Yikes!).

    Replies: @Rob

    , @thenon
    @Mike_from_SGV

    Its hard for many to remember that most men and almost all women in the black community are not violent or criminal any more than poor whites. There is a subset criminal class in all groups, with the upper classes leaning strongly towards white collar crime, a difficult thing to see and of no interest to the Media. Whites are capable of violence and mayhem, if you have ever had any contact with white biker gangs you will know this. The Media and the supporters of Black left racists have drowned out any voice for Black middle class people in recent years, other than those willing to blame whitey for everything.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Anon
    @Mike_from_SGV

    But blacks (or maybe its just their females) are famously the most churchgoing and religious, but it doesn’t seem to be producing very good results.

    Their religious practices are largely black liberation theology, not traditional love-one-another, turn-the -other-cheek Christianity.

    , @Currahee
    @Mike_from_SGV

    Superstition: black magic. Rev. Ike would sell devotees a prayer cloth, which he encouraged them to take to court appearances.

  13. @JohnnyWalker123
    Questions.

    1. Why does George Soros fund radical Black street activists?

    2. Why do Blacks shoot each other at funerals? Like, seriously, what the hell? A shooting at a funeral? People bring loaded guns to funerals?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Wade Hampton, @Achmed E. Newman, @Almost Missouri, @Rob McX

    Funeral shootings are typically drive-bys where one gang knows another gang will be gathered.

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
  14. @Hangnail Hans
    Before the 1970s there was that guy at the University of Texas who had a brain tumor. 1966. There was some other incident two or three decades before that, involving two families and a legal dispute I believe. Anything else? Back in the "bad old days"??

    What is now the rule was once the exception.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Steve Sailer, @74v56ruthiyj, @J.Ross

    There were crazy things like in the 1930s a local political figure killed a few dozen kids by blowing up a school.

    It would be interesting to know how many bystanders were hit in Chicago gangland killings during Prohibition.

    • Agree: JimDandy
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Steve Sailer

    There were crazy things like in the 1930s a local political figure killed a few dozen kids by blowing up a school.

    1927

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

    Interesting that the wiki article labels it a "disaster". Maybe it was caused by dynamite.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    There were crazy things like in the 1930s a local political figure killed a few dozen kids by blowing up a school.

     

    That was Andrew Kehoe in Bath, Michigan in 1927. He was on the school board, and spent the entire winter planting explosives in the basement. That is still the largest number in a school killing in the US, unless you take the Our Lady of Angels school fire in Chicago in 1958 to be arson. The cause of that is still unknown.

    Bath is only 11th on the worldwide list:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_massacres_by_death_toll

    Last May's Kabul school shooting almost reached the total at Our Lady of Angels, which is not on the list.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @JimDandy

    , @Kronos
    @Steve Sailer

    I vaguely recall some historian referring to the number of injured/killed bystanders during the Prohibition era. He contested the number was very low. Those that did occur were performed by novice gang members. The mafiaso took great pains to avoid bad publicity that’ll invigorate anti-Catholic/immigrant backlash.

    https://youtu.be/wKCSL6FeFBY

    Most hits were “tactful” and discrete. The exact opposite of African American gangstas. Those who were wacked were deeply involved in the game.

    https://youtu.be/ppjyB2MpxBU

    , @Joe Stalin
    @Steve Sailer


    It would be interesting to know how many bystanders were hit in Chicago gangland killings during Prohibition.
     
    Revolvers were the apparent weapons of choice; you don't spray-and-prey with 5-6 shots.

    Even the venerable Colt M1911 only had a 7-round mag.

    Weren't many center-fire semi-autos rifles or trench brooms available to criminals then.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5QB2pDHgU0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIo6iJBBdE

    Replies: @Muggles

    , @J.Ross
    @Steve Sailer

    None of that is a mass shooting, mass shootings are the most obviously artificial crowdnudge ever.

  15. I think maybe we are mistakenly looking at the second derivative (if I am using that term correctly). The causative factor here is actually an increase in the ethos of “It is okay to diss someone.” Suppose black guy X disses black guy Y. Well, when you are black and get dissed, your reaction is to shoot. The fact that that mass shootings tend to happen at parties is consistent with my theory, because a party is an opportunity for dissing to occur, and, for the shooting to be mass.

  16. @Steve Sailer
    @Hangnail Hans

    There were crazy things like in the 1930s a local political figure killed a few dozen kids by blowing up a school.

    It would be interesting to know how many bystanders were hit in Chicago gangland killings during Prohibition.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Kronos, @Joe Stalin, @J.Ross

    There were crazy things like in the 1930s a local political figure killed a few dozen kids by blowing up a school.

    1927

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

    Interesting that the wiki article labels it a “disaster”. Maybe it was caused by dynamite.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Mr. Anon

    I wonder if there is a genetic link between the Bath Kehoe and this Kehoe: https://mdocweb.state.mi.us/OTIS2/otis2profile.aspx?mdocNumber=256263
    My wife was in middle school with Ortiz Kehoe.

    Replies: @Rob McX

  17. What are the numbers for white people?

    If they’re not up, who cares? If they are, who’s doing the shooting and how do we stop that?

    Seriously, how long are you going to hold on to this ridiculous Citizenism farce?

    Choose a side already.

    • Agree: magilla
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    Seriously, how long are you going to hold on to this ridiculous Citizenism farce?

    Choose a side already.
     

    No, "citizenism" and "race realism" don't have to be exclusive. Better to have both on offer, forcing the other side to choose. That way, we have some leverage left. Most in the mushy middle would move toward us rather than the Mau Maos. [sic]


    You seriously want us to vote for a Gavin Newsom over a Larry Elder? That's taking race to an insane level.

    How you intend to bring about Another Dad's grand apartheid, you left unspoken.

    Replies: @Fan of Playgirl, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Loyalty Over IQ Worship, @Thomm

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    Seriously, how long are you going to hold on to this ridiculous Citizenism farce?

     

    "Citizenism" is white supremacism. It's just a more palatable flavor, easier to sell.

    It's why Cosby and OJ are were in prison, and George Zimmerman is not.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country

  18. @Steve Sailer
    @Hangnail Hans

    There were crazy things like in the 1930s a local political figure killed a few dozen kids by blowing up a school.

    It would be interesting to know how many bystanders were hit in Chicago gangland killings during Prohibition.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Kronos, @Joe Stalin, @J.Ross

    There were crazy things like in the 1930s a local political figure killed a few dozen kids by blowing up a school.

    That was Andrew Kehoe in Bath, Michigan in 1927. He was on the school board, and spent the entire winter planting explosives in the basement. That is still the largest number in a school killing in the US, unless you take the Our Lady of Angels school fire in Chicago in 1958 to be arson. The cause of that is still unknown.

    Bath is only 11th on the worldwide list:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_massacres_by_death_toll

    Last May’s Kabul school shooting almost reached the total at Our Lady of Angels, which is not on the list.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Reg Cæsar

    Explosives beat guns.


    “- Botanist: What do you want?
    - Learoyd: Freedom, to be like we are.
    - Botanist: Anything else?
    - Learoyd: Guns. So they can't take the freedom away.
    - Botanist: Well, I'll see what I can do.
    - Learoyd: And grenades, mortars and mines, so they can't take the guns away.”
     
    Guess the movie.

    Replies: @animalogic, @kaganovitch

    , @JimDandy
    @Reg Cæsar

    A 10 year old confessed to setting the school fire. Though the confession was thrown out, he was charged with setting the fire and did get sent to a reform school or something.

  19. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    What are the numbers for white people?

    If they're not up, who cares? If they are, who's doing the shooting and how do we stop that?

    Seriously, how long are you going to hold on to this ridiculous Citizenism farce?

    Choose a side already.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

    Seriously, how long are you going to hold on to this ridiculous Citizenism farce?

    Choose a side already.

    No, “citizenism” and “race realism” don’t have to be exclusive. Better to have both on offer, forcing the other side to choose. That way, we have some leverage left. Most in the mushy middle would move toward us rather than the Mau Maos. [sic]

    You seriously want us to vote for a Gavin Newsom over a Larry Elder? That’s taking race to an insane level.

    How you intend to bring about Another Dad’s grand apartheid, you left unspoken.

    • Agree: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Fan of Playgirl
    @Reg Cæsar

    Gavin newsom at least looks better than larry elder. Newsom is a handsome white aryan man, while elder is an eyesore, non-european, and a republicuck to boot. I voted for newsom just based on his phenotype. May the best looking white man win.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Reg Cæsar

    You Sperg Right folks think that you can forge some multi-racial high-IQ community out of "American Values" even as you mock the Left for wanting to forge a magical multi-racial society based on "Magic Dirt."

    You think that smart Indians, Asians, etc., will act white. Your hubris is stunning. Btw, how's that plan worked out with that oh so special tribe over the past 150 years? Not so great.

    The fact that whites carving their own communities over the next fifty years won't be easy doesn't mean we shouldn't try.

    Citizenism, like colorblind civic nationalism, is simply a way to hide without admitting to yourself that you've abandoned your people and have decided to join the other side.

    I mean, in truth, that's the smart move at the moment, and God knows the Sperg Right is smart, if, admittedly, cowards, so I suppose, you can't understand what I'm talking about. Given the odds, I'm sure you'll rationalize hiding behind Citizenism, just like ... well, nevermind who.

    As to me, I'll keep meeting with a few like minded friends, helping around the community and trying my best to very quietly build a community.

    You just keep rationalizing doing nothing. Maybe make fun of a NYT article here and there like ... well, nevermind.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @IHTG, @AndrewR, @Muggles

    , @Loyalty Over IQ Worship
    @Reg Cæsar


    No, “citizenism” and “race realism” don’t have to be exclusive. Better to have both on offer, forcing the other side to choose.
     
    There other side chose a long time ago. They're anti-White!

    That way, we have some leverage left
     
    Who is the "we" in this scenario?

    You seriously want us to vote for a Gavin Newsom over a Larry Elder? That’s taking race to an insane level.
     
    Gavin Newsom is openly anti-White. A traitor is always worse than an enemy. That's why Obama was nowhere near as bad for Whites as say, George W Bush.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @AndrewR

    , @Thomm
    @Reg Cæsar


    You seriously want us to vote for a Gavin Newsom over a Larry Elder? That’s taking race to an insane level.
     
    er.... these are already males who say that having sex with a pretty mulatto woman like a 1995 Halle Berry is worse than having sex with a white man. Their rationale is that race loyalty has to trump sexual orientation, and producing no baby is better than producing a mulatto baby.

    This question has been posed to many of the most strident WN types over here, and not one would say that having sex with a pretty mulatto woman is preferable to having sex with a white man.

    Commenter Truth can vouch for having witnessed this many times.

    So voting for Newsom over Elder is nowhere near the lengths they are willing to go.


    This comment should not be moderated, as it is very on-topic to the question posed.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Boomthorkell, @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna, @Truth

  20. @lavoisier

    The Establishment’s obsession with condemning white racism is bringing out the worst in blacks.
     
    For sure the Establishment has blood, lots of it, on their hands.

    But it is not hard to bring out the worst in blacks.


    Any ideas on how to bring out the best in blacks??

    Replies: @SFG, @SimpleSong, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Wade Hampton, @AndrewR, @Currahee, @Colin Wright, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Why do you care, outside of helping whites. We have no responsibility to these people or any other people besides our own.

    Don’t be a part of the Sperg Right. Learn to love your own people, your own family.

    • LOL: IHTG
    • Replies: @lavoisier
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    Why do you care, outside of helping whites. We have no responsibility to these people or any other people besides our own.
     
    You have to care because they live here and are such a major problem for everyone.

    I think getting the state out of subsidizing illegitimate childbirth would be a good start, as would a legal system that allowed whites to defend themselves against black predation.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country

    , @AndrewR
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Lmaooo you are a prime example of "the sperg right." Good lord

    Replies: @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

  21. @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    There were crazy things like in the 1930s a local political figure killed a few dozen kids by blowing up a school.

     

    That was Andrew Kehoe in Bath, Michigan in 1927. He was on the school board, and spent the entire winter planting explosives in the basement. That is still the largest number in a school killing in the US, unless you take the Our Lady of Angels school fire in Chicago in 1958 to be arson. The cause of that is still unknown.

    Bath is only 11th on the worldwide list:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_massacres_by_death_toll

    Last May's Kabul school shooting almost reached the total at Our Lady of Angels, which is not on the list.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @JimDandy

    Explosives beat guns.

    “- Botanist: What do you want?
    – Learoyd: Freedom, to be like we are.
    – Botanist: Anything else?
    – Learoyd: Guns. So they can’t take the freedom away.
    – Botanist: Well, I’ll see what I can do.
    – Learoyd: And grenades, mortars and mines, so they can’t take the guns away.”

    Guess the movie.

    • Replies: @animalogic
    @Twinkie

    I'd also recommend some kind of anti-aircraft weapon -- a manpad etc. (indeed,
    & anti-tank weapons) Why skimp ? No half-arsedness !)

    , @kaganovitch
    @Twinkie

    Milius' finest.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  22. most stereotypical black behavior

    Although blacks disproportionately account for more of these mass shootings than the people of other races, we should keep in mind that the vast majority of blacks don’t engage in mass shootings. So I’d say the “most stereotypical black behavior” is more like not showing up for work. 😉

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Twinkie

    Failing the drug test while looking for employment might be above not showing up for work.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @G. Poulin
    @Twinkie

    Or shooting up your former place of employment after being fired for not showing up for work.

  23. @Reg Cæsar
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    Seriously, how long are you going to hold on to this ridiculous Citizenism farce?

    Choose a side already.
     

    No, "citizenism" and "race realism" don't have to be exclusive. Better to have both on offer, forcing the other side to choose. That way, we have some leverage left. Most in the mushy middle would move toward us rather than the Mau Maos. [sic]


    You seriously want us to vote for a Gavin Newsom over a Larry Elder? That's taking race to an insane level.

    How you intend to bring about Another Dad's grand apartheid, you left unspoken.

    Replies: @Fan of Playgirl, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Loyalty Over IQ Worship, @Thomm

    Gavin newsom at least looks better than larry elder. Newsom is a handsome white aryan man, while elder is an eyesore, non-european, and a republicuck to boot. I voted for newsom just based on his phenotype. May the best looking white man win.

    • Troll: IHTG
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Fan of Playgirl

    That's one of your better ones, Tiny!

  24. @New Dealer
    Updating recent topics.

    https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1465028734453493764

    Waukesha will hold a moment of silence today, marking one week since a car drove through a city Christmas parade, killing six people and injuring scores of others.

     

    It’s official! Raped women assigned fewer intersectional pokemon points than any Muslim.
    https://news.yahoo.com/canadian-school-district-cancels-speech-011249439.html

    A woman who lived through kidnapping and sexual slavery at the hands of ISIS had an event cancelled by a Canadian school board due to fears of "Islamophobia."
     

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Abolish_public_education, @meh, @Adam Smith, @Rob McX

    A self-driving car blew a fuse (or it was trying to escape from a chop shop).

  25. @Reg Cæsar
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    Seriously, how long are you going to hold on to this ridiculous Citizenism farce?

    Choose a side already.
     

    No, "citizenism" and "race realism" don't have to be exclusive. Better to have both on offer, forcing the other side to choose. That way, we have some leverage left. Most in the mushy middle would move toward us rather than the Mau Maos. [sic]


    You seriously want us to vote for a Gavin Newsom over a Larry Elder? That's taking race to an insane level.

    How you intend to bring about Another Dad's grand apartheid, you left unspoken.

    Replies: @Fan of Playgirl, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Loyalty Over IQ Worship, @Thomm

    You Sperg Right folks think that you can forge some multi-racial high-IQ community out of “American Values” even as you mock the Left for wanting to forge a magical multi-racial society based on “Magic Dirt.”

    You think that smart Indians, Asians, etc., will act white. Your hubris is stunning. Btw, how’s that plan worked out with that oh so special tribe over the past 150 years? Not so great.

    The fact that whites carving their own communities over the next fifty years won’t be easy doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try.

    Citizenism, like colorblind civic nationalism, is simply a way to hide without admitting to yourself that you’ve abandoned your people and have decided to join the other side.

    I mean, in truth, that’s the smart move at the moment, and God knows the Sperg Right is smart, if, admittedly, cowards, so I suppose, you can’t understand what I’m talking about. Given the odds, I’m sure you’ll rationalize hiding behind Citizenism, just like … well, nevermind who.

    As to me, I’ll keep meeting with a few like minded friends, helping around the community and trying my best to very quietly build a community.

    You just keep rationalizing doing nothing. Maybe make fun of a NYT article here and there like … well, nevermind.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    You think that smart Indians, Asians, etc., will act white.
     
    When did I say that? Smart Italians, Jews, Greeks, Irish, Germans, and even Scots don't act Anglo-Saxon. Canada is a 154-year-old lesson in "white solidarity". How'd that work out?

    I have a narrow definition of my race, the same as great-great-grandfathers had. Much narrower than yours. You can't spend more than a few minutes at right-wing gathering without hearing the words "perfidious Albion". A lot more people hate our race-- well, my race-- than you can imagine.


    As to me, I’ll keep meeting with a few like minded friends, helping around the community and trying my best to very quietly build a community.

     

    That's exactly what I'm doing.

    I opposed the removal of statues from Charlottesville, but have no illusions that the men so honored were anything but race traitors. They, or their ancestors, invented the diversity we live under.

    If Fillmore, Pierce, and Buchanan were truly loyal to their race, they'd have kicked the mulatto states out. The remnant Union would be whiter than Canada. Instead, Buchanan went to bed with a man who went to bed with his Africans.

    Replies: @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    , @IHTG
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Right now, something approximating "citizenism" has successfully kept Texas from flipping over to the bad guys in the face of massive demographic change. What has your side achieved?

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    , @AndrewR
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    The way forward is a blend of civic nationalism and ethnic nationalism. Unapologetic pro-whiteness (including severe immigration restrictionism) combined with tolerance for ethnic minorities who aren't hostile to whites, and intolerance of self-hating whites.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Muggles
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    Citizenism, like colorblind civic nationalism, is simply a way to hide without admitting to yourself that you’ve abandoned your people and have decided to join the other side.

    As to me, I’ll keep meeting with a few like minded friends, helping around the community and trying my best to very quietly build a community.
     
    You keep showing up here sneering at everyone else about how hopeless we are, inventing new insults as you go ("sperg right" etc.).

    Now you claim everyone but you is doing nothing. You on the other hand, do nothing but piss on someone else's shoes and pretend to be doing something.

    Well, have fun at your monthly Klan rally. I'm sure the farmers appreciate the fact that you pick up those beer bottles afterwards. "Helping around the community" and such.

    Why don't you help the iSteve community here and go away. "Help" elsewhere.
  26. @New Dealer
    Updating recent topics.

    https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1465028734453493764

    Waukesha will hold a moment of silence today, marking one week since a car drove through a city Christmas parade, killing six people and injuring scores of others.

     

    It’s official! Raped women assigned fewer intersectional pokemon points than any Muslim.
    https://news.yahoo.com/canadian-school-district-cancels-speech-011249439.html

    A woman who lived through kidnapping and sexual slavery at the hands of ISIS had an event cancelled by a Canadian school board due to fears of "Islamophobia."
     

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Abolish_public_education, @meh, @Adam Smith, @Rob McX

    “a car drove through a city Christmas parade”

    You can always tell when the MSM is trying to cover up something when they resort to this passive language.

    A car drove through a Christmas parade? By itself? It’s sort of like a natural disaster like a buffalo stampede or a flash flood?

    • Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    @meh

    ==QUOTE== “a car drove through a city Christmas parade”: You can always tell when the MSM is trying to cover up something when they resort to this passive language. ==UNQUOTE==

    The problem here is not the grammatical construct of passive voice, but rather the refusal to identify the decision-maker who caused the mayhem. Come up with a snappy phrase to refer to this agency obfuscation, and you will be doing a public service.

    Replies: @meh

  27. @Steve Sailer
    @Hangnail Hans

    There were crazy things like in the 1930s a local political figure killed a few dozen kids by blowing up a school.

    It would be interesting to know how many bystanders were hit in Chicago gangland killings during Prohibition.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Kronos, @Joe Stalin, @J.Ross

    I vaguely recall some historian referring to the number of injured/killed bystanders during the Prohibition era. He contested the number was very low. Those that did occur were performed by novice gang members. The mafiaso took great pains to avoid bad publicity that’ll invigorate anti-Catholic/immigrant backlash.

    Most hits were “tactful” and discrete. The exact opposite of African American gangstas. Those who were wacked were deeply involved in the game.

  28. @Twinkie

    most stereotypical black behavior
     
    Although blacks disproportionately account for more of these mass shootings than the people of other races, we should keep in mind that the vast majority of blacks don’t engage in mass shootings. So I’d say the “most stereotypical black behavior” is more like not showing up for work. ;)

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @G. Poulin

    Failing the drug test while looking for employment might be above not showing up for work.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Redneck farmer

    It captures all sorts of stereotypical black behaviors.

  29. “Mass shootings represent an almost cartoonish exaggeration of the worst of African-American culture. So this enormous increase in the worst and most stereotypical black behavior during the Great Awokening during which Americans are supposed to flatter blacks and never criticize their behavior is damning evidence that The Establishment’s obsession with condemning white racism is bringing out the worst in blacks.”

    Yikes!!! This is a devastatingly succinct summation of our current state of affairs. Black folks have been embellished and emboldened by the media, and the Democratic establishment, to an absurd extent. Just look at the liberal/Democratic local prosecutors around the country who have essentially eliminated many categories of crimes (mostly misdemeanors) which are mostly committed by blacks which, not surprisingly, leads to more crime because blacks then feel they are above the law.

    Let’s face it, black folks generally don’t mind high crime rates, just as long as it doesn’t affect them personally. That’s the only explanation as to why they allow crime in their communities as opposed to adopting get tough on crime policies and more aggressive policing. In their view, it’s better to be victimized by a local thug than policed by a white cop. In the once proud city of Baltimore, crime is spiking at a horrific rate. The black mayor, the black police chief, and the black prosecutor are all clueless as to what to do to stem the rate of shootings and murders. Sad.

    • Replies: @Arclight
    @PaceLaw

    Your last paragraph gets at the problem - blacks will tolerate much higher levels of disorder in their neighborhoods than just about anyone else. Having lived in a nearly all black neighborhood, even when they are disapprove of what neighbors are doing, they do not get involved or interfere in any way. The reluctance to apply social pressure lets the worst elements in the neighborhood exert a disproportionate influence over quality of life, when it should be the other way around.

    Replies: @Recently Based

  30. The thing about ny times readers is you can’t tell them anything, because they already know everything. So on the topic of ‘mass shootings’ they will inform you with full confidence that almost all are carried out by white men.

    If you show them any statistics showing otherwise, they will simply get extremely annoyed and refuse to discuss the matter further. They tolerate correction about as well as blegs tolerate a ‘dis.’

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @anon
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Don't worry. They are actively at work redefining mass shooting to reduce Black mass shooting. Raising the death count and/or putting more emphasis on dead/less on shot. Look it up.

    Meanwhile, the North Carolina Black Friday mall shooting has been memory holed in record time. The Daily Mail has one photo hinting at it being black. We know it's black. The black police chief essentially said so. But no name, no definitive photo, no one on twitter blurting it out.

    If it isn't called a white shooting in the headline, it's probably black.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

  31. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    What are the numbers for white people?

    If they're not up, who cares? If they are, who's doing the shooting and how do we stop that?

    Seriously, how long are you going to hold on to this ridiculous Citizenism farce?

    Choose a side already.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

    Seriously, how long are you going to hold on to this ridiculous Citizenism farce?

    “Citizenism” is white supremacism. It’s just a more palatable flavor, easier to sell.

    It’s why Cosby and OJ are were in prison, and George Zimmerman is not.

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Reg Cæsar

    If Citizenism is such an easy sell, why are whites in far worse shape now than when Steve introduced the concept 10 or 15 years ago.

    Colorblind civic nationalism has been an abject failure for 50 years. Since whites adopted it, the country has gone from 85% white to where our kids are a minority. The commanding heights of society openly hate whites. The institutions and values that CivNats hold so dear are despised.

    Why would any white continue with this strategy? Time to move on.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  32. @For what it's worth
    At one time, the best element in African-American culture (gospel music) was expressly anti-alcohol, anti-smoking, anti-gambling, anti-dancing, anti-violence, anti-promiscuity, anti-laziness, etc. The moral values were identical to those of white Christians. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOrhjgt-_Qc

    Replies: @PaceLaw, @74v56ruthiyj, @Almost Missouri, @AndrewR, @Ganderson, @John Johnson

    While I’d like to agree with your sentiment, I do not believe that most African-Americans endorsed this position in terms of harsh or stern moral standards (like say, Mormons). Each of the vices that you listed have been thriving in the black community since practically forever. It was only a very small element of the black community that was against these sins and clearly they lost the war in terms of advancing their position.

  33. @George Taylor
    At least 14 youth have been shot/wounded in the last two weeks in Aurora, Colorado. FYI Aurora is the dark suburb of Denver, on it's Eastern border. Apparently there all expected to survive but I wonder how many will be permanently disabled and or peeing into a colostomy bag for the rest of their lives. https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/community-leader-reacts-to-most-recent-aurora-shooting/73-1ad38682-fd2d-4876-9961-fa9a781128d8

    Replies: @PaceLaw, @Achmed E. Newman, @Anonymous

    Wow, I used to live in Aurora back in the late 90s. I recall it being the quintessential middle-America suburban town, with very little in the way of diversity (other than a small Mexican population). It is hard to believe that “urban“ crime has invaded Aurora.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @PaceLaw


    Wow, I used to live in Aurora back in the late 90s.
     
    Isn't that near Columbine?

    Looking back the school shooting there in '99 was the first sign things were going to get spicy.
  34. So what the HBD folks are telling is, the Establishment People are the real racists.

    Dontcha see, Mr. Establishment, your policies are bad for Black folks!

    But don’t you see, Mr. HBD, they really don’t care. Their agenda is being anti-White.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship


    So what the HBD folks are telling is, the Establishment People are the real racists.

     

    Life is racist. Reality is racist. God is racist.

    But don’t you see, Mr. HBD, they really don’t care. Their agenda is being anti-White.

     

    Their agenda isn't the problem. Mental institutions are packed with individuals with agendas. The problem is that these cretins have the tools to carry theirs out. Take the tools away, and let them hate all they want. We could laugh.

    Remember, when you see pictures of a "segregated" lunch counter in pre-1964 Dixie, know that colored boys and girls were back in the kitchen, spitting in the food. Jesse Jackson admitted this. Why were they allowed in the building in the first place? Weren't there hygiene regulations back then?

    Darrell Brooks isn't the problem, John T Chisholm is. A "citizenist" would have kept Brooks in the slammer for running over his black baby momma. But you don't think her life is worth interfering over any more than Chisholm did. So six white people die.


    Watch what you eat!


    https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/black-waiter-serving-table-terrace-positive-restaurant-guests-focus-man-73090523.jpg

    Replies: @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

  35. @Reg Cæsar
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    Seriously, how long are you going to hold on to this ridiculous Citizenism farce?

    Choose a side already.
     

    No, "citizenism" and "race realism" don't have to be exclusive. Better to have both on offer, forcing the other side to choose. That way, we have some leverage left. Most in the mushy middle would move toward us rather than the Mau Maos. [sic]


    You seriously want us to vote for a Gavin Newsom over a Larry Elder? That's taking race to an insane level.

    How you intend to bring about Another Dad's grand apartheid, you left unspoken.

    Replies: @Fan of Playgirl, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Loyalty Over IQ Worship, @Thomm

    No, “citizenism” and “race realism” don’t have to be exclusive. Better to have both on offer, forcing the other side to choose.

    There other side chose a long time ago. They’re anti-White!

    That way, we have some leverage left

    Who is the “we” in this scenario?

    You seriously want us to vote for a Gavin Newsom over a Larry Elder? That’s taking race to an insane level.

    Gavin Newsom is openly anti-White. A traitor is always worse than an enemy. That’s why Obama was nowhere near as bad for Whites as say, George W Bush.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship


    Who is the “we” in this scenario?
     
    I'm seeing Corvinus everywhere now. That's his favorite question.

    Replies: @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    , @AndrewR
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    I assume he means people who disagree with the regime's blatant anti-whiteness.

  36. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Reg Cæsar

    You Sperg Right folks think that you can forge some multi-racial high-IQ community out of "American Values" even as you mock the Left for wanting to forge a magical multi-racial society based on "Magic Dirt."

    You think that smart Indians, Asians, etc., will act white. Your hubris is stunning. Btw, how's that plan worked out with that oh so special tribe over the past 150 years? Not so great.

    The fact that whites carving their own communities over the next fifty years won't be easy doesn't mean we shouldn't try.

    Citizenism, like colorblind civic nationalism, is simply a way to hide without admitting to yourself that you've abandoned your people and have decided to join the other side.

    I mean, in truth, that's the smart move at the moment, and God knows the Sperg Right is smart, if, admittedly, cowards, so I suppose, you can't understand what I'm talking about. Given the odds, I'm sure you'll rationalize hiding behind Citizenism, just like ... well, nevermind who.

    As to me, I'll keep meeting with a few like minded friends, helping around the community and trying my best to very quietly build a community.

    You just keep rationalizing doing nothing. Maybe make fun of a NYT article here and there like ... well, nevermind.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @IHTG, @AndrewR, @Muggles

    You think that smart Indians, Asians, etc., will act white.

    When did I say that? Smart Italians, Jews, Greeks, Irish, Germans, and even Scots don’t act Anglo-Saxon. Canada is a 154-year-old lesson in “white solidarity”. How’d that work out?

    I have a narrow definition of my race, the same as great-great-grandfathers had. Much narrower than yours. You can’t spend more than a few minutes at right-wing gathering without hearing the words “perfidious Albion”. A lot more people hate our race– well, my race– than you can imagine.

    As to me, I’ll keep meeting with a few like minded friends, helping around the community and trying my best to very quietly build a community.

    That’s exactly what I’m doing.

    I opposed the removal of statues from Charlottesville, but have no illusions that the men so honored were anything but race traitors. They, or their ancestors, invented the diversity we live under.

    If Fillmore, Pierce, and Buchanan were truly loyal to their race, they’d have kicked the mulatto states out. The remnant Union would be whiter than Canada. Instead, Buchanan went to bed with a man who went to bed with his Africans.

    • Thanks: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Loyalty Over IQ Worship
    @Reg Cæsar


    I have a narrow definition of my race, the same as great-great-grandfathers had. Much narrower than yours
     
    Ah, but anti-Whites have a very broad definition of race (and a much more correct one).

    In our current environment, failing to realize one's total group is under attack is a moral crime and a practical disaster. If Japan were attacked by someone who hated the Japanese, it's not good for someone on the northern tip of Japan to say, "oh well, I'm a true Japanese, I ain't worried about those others".

    Your enemy gets a vote with regard to what group you're in!

    The old strategy of divide and conquer is not something we should do to ourselves. Which is what all this slice 'em dice'em fragmentation of Whites amounts to in the 21st century.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  37. @Mike_from_SGV
    @SFG

    But blacks (or maybe its just their females) are famously the most churchgoing and religious, but it doesn't seem to be producing very good results.

    Replies: @PaceLaw, @thenon, @Anon, @Currahee

    Well that’s a good point. I would guess that much of the church going in the black community is either performative (keeping “Up with the Joneses” and for appearances sake) or as part of the “prosperity gospel“ where certain actions will bring you riches in this world, almost along the lines of buying a lottery ticket (which, if you are not aware, is still a very big thing in the back community. I was at a gas station recently where a lady literally paid out \$200 in cash for lottery tickets. Yikes!).

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @Rob
    @PaceLaw

    Wow. I totally understand buying a lottery ticket for the multimillion once-a-week(?) lottery. Even twenty bucks whenever it hits a record. Hope is a valuable thing to have.

    My friend Josh used to buy a weekly lottery ticket.

    Me: Lottery winners are usually broke and in debt in x years.
    Him: Have you seen the other people who buy lottery tickets?
    Me: You do have a point...

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

  38. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Reg Cæsar

    You Sperg Right folks think that you can forge some multi-racial high-IQ community out of "American Values" even as you mock the Left for wanting to forge a magical multi-racial society based on "Magic Dirt."

    You think that smart Indians, Asians, etc., will act white. Your hubris is stunning. Btw, how's that plan worked out with that oh so special tribe over the past 150 years? Not so great.

    The fact that whites carving their own communities over the next fifty years won't be easy doesn't mean we shouldn't try.

    Citizenism, like colorblind civic nationalism, is simply a way to hide without admitting to yourself that you've abandoned your people and have decided to join the other side.

    I mean, in truth, that's the smart move at the moment, and God knows the Sperg Right is smart, if, admittedly, cowards, so I suppose, you can't understand what I'm talking about. Given the odds, I'm sure you'll rationalize hiding behind Citizenism, just like ... well, nevermind who.

    As to me, I'll keep meeting with a few like minded friends, helping around the community and trying my best to very quietly build a community.

    You just keep rationalizing doing nothing. Maybe make fun of a NYT article here and there like ... well, nevermind.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @IHTG, @AndrewR, @Muggles

    Right now, something approximating “citizenism” has successfully kept Texas from flipping over to the bad guys in the face of massive demographic change. What has your side achieved?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @IHTG

    What the hell are you talking about? Are GWB, Ted Cruz, Rick Perry and Greg Abbott your idea of "good guys"? Any "good guys" in Texas don't get elected to statewide offices

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @IHTG

    Low voter turnout by Hispanics has kept Texas red and reasonably conservative.

    That won't last. A state that 60-70% Hispanic won't remain conservative. It'll Mexico of the North. A few nice parts, not too bad if you're wealthy, but overall pretty crappy and corrupt.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  39. @Reg Cæsar
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    You think that smart Indians, Asians, etc., will act white.
     
    When did I say that? Smart Italians, Jews, Greeks, Irish, Germans, and even Scots don't act Anglo-Saxon. Canada is a 154-year-old lesson in "white solidarity". How'd that work out?

    I have a narrow definition of my race, the same as great-great-grandfathers had. Much narrower than yours. You can't spend more than a few minutes at right-wing gathering without hearing the words "perfidious Albion". A lot more people hate our race-- well, my race-- than you can imagine.


    As to me, I’ll keep meeting with a few like minded friends, helping around the community and trying my best to very quietly build a community.

     

    That's exactly what I'm doing.

    I opposed the removal of statues from Charlottesville, but have no illusions that the men so honored were anything but race traitors. They, or their ancestors, invented the diversity we live under.

    If Fillmore, Pierce, and Buchanan were truly loyal to their race, they'd have kicked the mulatto states out. The remnant Union would be whiter than Canada. Instead, Buchanan went to bed with a man who went to bed with his Africans.

    Replies: @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    I have a narrow definition of my race, the same as great-great-grandfathers had. Much narrower than yours

    Ah, but anti-Whites have a very broad definition of race (and a much more correct one).

    In our current environment, failing to realize one’s total group is under attack is a moral crime and a practical disaster. If Japan were attacked by someone who hated the Japanese, it’s not good for someone on the northern tip of Japan to say, “oh well, I’m a true Japanese, I ain’t worried about those others”.

    Your enemy gets a vote with regard to what group you’re in!

    The old strategy of divide and conquer is not something we should do to ourselves. Which is what all this slice ’em dice’em fragmentation of Whites amounts to in the 21st century.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship


    Your enemy gets a vote with regard to what group you’re in!
     
    Not in my republic! I'm disenfranchising them.
  40. @Loyalty Over IQ Worship
    So what the HBD folks are telling is, the Establishment People are the real racists.

    Dontcha see, Mr. Establishment, your policies are bad for Black folks!

    But don't you see, Mr. HBD, they really don't care. Their agenda is being anti-White.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    So what the HBD folks are telling is, the Establishment People are the real racists.

    Life is racist. Reality is racist. God is racist.

    But don’t you see, Mr. HBD, they really don’t care. Their agenda is being anti-White.

    Their agenda isn’t the problem. Mental institutions are packed with individuals with agendas. The problem is that these cretins have the tools to carry theirs out. Take the tools away, and let them hate all they want. We could laugh.

    Remember, when you see pictures of a “segregated” lunch counter in pre-1964 Dixie, know that colored boys and girls were back in the kitchen, spitting in the food. Jesse Jackson admitted this. Why were they allowed in the building in the first place? Weren’t there hygiene regulations back then?

    Darrell Brooks isn’t the problem, John T Chisholm is. A “citizenist” would have kept Brooks in the slammer for running over his black baby momma. But you don’t think her life is worth interfering over any more than Chisholm did. So six white people die.

    Watch what you eat!

    • Replies: @Loyalty Over IQ Worship
    @Reg Cæsar


    Their agenda isn’t the problem. Mental institutions are packed with individuals with agendas ... let them hate all they want. We could laugh.
     
    Their anti-White, often self-hating philosophy is indeed worthy of a nut house. What kind of screwball hates his own people?

    However, while their ideas should be laughed at, they have to be "taken seriously" in the sense that they have power and are actively harming Whites right now.

    The problem is that these cretins have the tools to carry theirs out. Take the tools away, and let them hate all they want.
     
    I'm not sure what that means in a practical sense. Their tools are the federal gov't and every state and local gov't. And every gov't in the Western White world. Not to mention the media and academia. So the only way to get those tools away from them is to undermining their social legitimacy in the eyes of White people. Which means getting a public discussion of anti-Whitism.
  41. @Hangnail Hans
    Before the 1970s there was that guy at the University of Texas who had a brain tumor. 1966. There was some other incident two or three decades before that, involving two families and a legal dispute I believe. Anything else? Back in the "bad old days"??

    What is now the rule was once the exception.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Steve Sailer, @74v56ruthiyj, @J.Ross

    IIRC, a White man named Richard Speck killed seven Filipino nursing students who shared an apartment, about 1968 in Chicago.

  42. @lavoisier

    The Establishment’s obsession with condemning white racism is bringing out the worst in blacks.
     
    For sure the Establishment has blood, lots of it, on their hands.

    But it is not hard to bring out the worst in blacks.


    Any ideas on how to bring out the best in blacks??

    Replies: @SFG, @SimpleSong, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Wade Hampton, @AndrewR, @Currahee, @Colin Wright, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I don’t much care, having moved away from a bad demographic area to a pretty good one.

    But if anybody wanted to actually mitigate the problem of black misbehavior there are three parts to the solution

    1) I agree with SFG’s comment that Christianity is part of the solution.

    2) Stringent and violent law enforcement is another part, probably the most important.

    3) Eliminate government aid to families with dependent children. Let private charities like churches deal with that. Try to minimize black reproduction without a man in the home.

    What is the likelihood of all that happening? Close to zero, in fact the Ruling Class is pushing all these changes in the opposite direction. This is evidence that the Ruling Class wants to aggravate the problem to destablize normal society.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Wade Hampton

    I agree that "Establishment" promotes the worst in blacks; also, even without that, blacks would have been hardly bearable.

    But it shows that there is no grand conspiracy behind it all. There is no profit for oligarchs, nor some elites, nor anyone with enough power to pull strings.

    This is the level of suicidal behavior not comparable with that of those promoting & profiting from slavery. After all, they treated blacks as cattle & never thought that some time in the future their progeny would have to live with those, in their view, beasts of burden.

    No, it all looks to me like a typical societal degeneracy of a society in which central ideas have run its course & doesn't know what to do next, and is afraid to move on. Similar to ruling classes before French & Russian revolutions.

    But, there is one fundamental difference.

    Those upheavals, whatever we may think of them, had a healthy & strong idea propelling them: class & religious & .. differences should not be impediment, and men should be given equal chance. Of course- that part was correct, because the suppressed populations of their own peoples had shown to be capable of great achievements & progress.

    But here, we are dealing with something entirely different. We should go away from essentially Christian idea that men are equal (all nuances aside) & to state explicitly that groups of human collectives are fundamentally & unalterably unequal; that this inequality is a biological-cultural combination which cannot be remedied; and that a society, if it wants to survive, should act in such a manner that it promotes the best.

    In other words- meritocracy in such conditions means apartheid.

    And that would mean not only world-view revolution in the US, but in the whole world, which goes against all global ideas about human beings.

    Replies: @David Davenport

    , @Justvisiting
    @Wade Hampton

    The elites have flooded the mass media and corporate advertising with positive message showing black men as loyal family men with children and interests in the arts and sciences and other aspects of high civilization.

    This has been a total failure.

    It is probably worth trying the opposite approach to see what happens.

    Have all black men in advertising getting dissed at each other and start shooting each other at parties and funerals.

    "Science" is all about experimenting with alternatives to see what works!

  43. @JohnnyWalker123
    Questions.

    1. Why does George Soros fund radical Black street activists?

    2. Why do Blacks shoot each other at funerals? Like, seriously, what the hell? A shooting at a funeral? People bring loaded guns to funerals?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Wade Hampton, @Achmed E. Newman, @Almost Missouri, @Rob McX

    1. Why does George Soros fund radical Black street activists?

    To destabilize normal society. It’s what the Ruling Class does to maintain their control.

  44. @Fan of Playgirl
    @Reg Cæsar

    Gavin newsom at least looks better than larry elder. Newsom is a handsome white aryan man, while elder is an eyesore, non-european, and a republicuck to boot. I voted for newsom just based on his phenotype. May the best looking white man win.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    That’s one of your better ones, Tiny!

    • LOL: Hangnail Hans
  45. @Reg Cæsar
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    Seriously, how long are you going to hold on to this ridiculous Citizenism farce?

    Choose a side already.
     

    No, "citizenism" and "race realism" don't have to be exclusive. Better to have both on offer, forcing the other side to choose. That way, we have some leverage left. Most in the mushy middle would move toward us rather than the Mau Maos. [sic]


    You seriously want us to vote for a Gavin Newsom over a Larry Elder? That's taking race to an insane level.

    How you intend to bring about Another Dad's grand apartheid, you left unspoken.

    Replies: @Fan of Playgirl, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Loyalty Over IQ Worship, @Thomm

    You seriously want us to vote for a Gavin Newsom over a Larry Elder? That’s taking race to an insane level.

    er…. these are already males who say that having sex with a pretty mulatto woman like a 1995 Halle Berry is worse than having sex with a white man. Their rationale is that race loyalty has to trump sexual orientation, and producing no baby is better than producing a mulatto baby.

    This question has been posed to many of the most strident WN types over here, and not one would say that having sex with a pretty mulatto woman is preferable to having sex with a white man.

    Commenter Truth can vouch for having witnessed this many times.

    So voting for Newsom over Elder is nowhere near the lengths they are willing to go.

    This comment should not be moderated, as it is very on-topic to the question posed.

    • Troll: William Badwhite
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Thomm


    ...not one would say that having sex with a pretty mulatto woman is preferable to having sex with a white man.
     
    I found that young Somali and other East African women still possess that intense feminine élan once common and so fetching among European girls, and that I missed so much after returning to America. They were fun to observe from afar, but there was no temptation to "hook up". I'd no more "do it" with an Afghan than an Afghan hound.

    Why not? Because I had long since grown up from a desire for "having sex" to one for having children. That closed off any thought of them as potential mates, for racial and religious reasons. That's not what I want my kids to be. I told myself I might marry a half-Asian woman, but not a full-Asian one. Indeed, I was wary of white women of a single stock, say, Irish. (The children I finally did sired have ten known Western European ethnicities.)

    So you mock others' immaturity while displaying your own.


    https://static.dezeen.com/uploads/2019/10/archetype-lighting-collection-workstead-glass-house_dezeen_hero-a-1704x959.jpg

    Replies: @Boomthorkell, @Truth

    , @Boomthorkell
    @Thomm

    Holy fuck, he's still on about it.

    This is the hill Thomm will die on. Hilarious.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Thomm

    , @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna
    @Thomm

    "these are already males who say that"

    Do tell

    , @Truth
    @Thomm


    This question has been posed to many of the most strident WN types over here, and not one would say that having sex with a pretty mulatto woman is preferable to having sex with a white man.

    Commenter Truth can vouch for having witnessed this many times.
     
    There have been very strange responses here. I think Thomm, you and I might be a little older than some of these kids, I'm mid 50's; when I was a kid, even a flaming fagg would lie and say he would rather be with a woman than a man.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uSTOHa4Im4
  46. @For what it's worth
    At one time, the best element in African-American culture (gospel music) was expressly anti-alcohol, anti-smoking, anti-gambling, anti-dancing, anti-violence, anti-promiscuity, anti-laziness, etc. The moral values were identical to those of white Christians. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOrhjgt-_Qc

    Replies: @PaceLaw, @74v56ruthiyj, @Almost Missouri, @AndrewR, @Ganderson, @John Johnson

    A large number of Black preachers were/are in it for the money and the cooze, MLK, Jesse Jackson, and Ralph Abernathy among them. The tail-chasing, tithe-stealing preacher is a staple of Black folklore. Sometimes it’s a father-to-son-to-grandson thing. The congregation knows, but accepts it as normal.

    • LOL: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Barnard
    @74v56ruthiyj

    The aptly named Creflo Dollar, with his Rolls Royce, private jet and $10 million plus in multiple homes is only an outlier in terms of his success at running the grift. Although he seems much more focused on making money than on any sort of social change.

    , @magilla
    @74v56ruthiyj


    The tail-chasing, tithe-stealing preacher is a staple of Black folklore.
     
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_rTIxcWAt_k
    , @Gary in Gramercy
    @74v56ruthiyj

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Giia2Y_Jdc

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @74v56ruthiyj

    PJ O'Rourke once said about the evangelical billboards all over Little Rock that the place must have a lot of sin to need that much salvation.

  47. @Reg Cæsar
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship


    So what the HBD folks are telling is, the Establishment People are the real racists.

     

    Life is racist. Reality is racist. God is racist.

    But don’t you see, Mr. HBD, they really don’t care. Their agenda is being anti-White.

     

    Their agenda isn't the problem. Mental institutions are packed with individuals with agendas. The problem is that these cretins have the tools to carry theirs out. Take the tools away, and let them hate all they want. We could laugh.

    Remember, when you see pictures of a "segregated" lunch counter in pre-1964 Dixie, know that colored boys and girls were back in the kitchen, spitting in the food. Jesse Jackson admitted this. Why were they allowed in the building in the first place? Weren't there hygiene regulations back then?

    Darrell Brooks isn't the problem, John T Chisholm is. A "citizenist" would have kept Brooks in the slammer for running over his black baby momma. But you don't think her life is worth interfering over any more than Chisholm did. So six white people die.


    Watch what you eat!


    https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/black-waiter-serving-table-terrace-positive-restaurant-guests-focus-man-73090523.jpg

    Replies: @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    Their agenda isn’t the problem. Mental institutions are packed with individuals with agendas … let them hate all they want. We could laugh.

    Their anti-White, often self-hating philosophy is indeed worthy of a nut house. What kind of screwball hates his own people?

    However, while their ideas should be laughed at, they have to be “taken seriously” in the sense that they have power and are actively harming Whites right now.

    The problem is that these cretins have the tools to carry theirs out. Take the tools away, and let them hate all they want.

    I’m not sure what that means in a practical sense. Their tools are the federal gov’t and every state and local gov’t. And every gov’t in the Western White world. Not to mention the media and academia. So the only way to get those tools away from them is to undermining their social legitimacy in the eyes of White people. Which means getting a public discussion of anti-Whitism.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  48. This one’s for Whiskey. And Tiny. And Truth.

  49. @meh
    @New Dealer

    "a car drove through a city Christmas parade"

    You can always tell when the MSM is trying to cover up something when they resort to this passive language.

    A car drove through a Christmas parade? By itself? It's sort of like a natural disaster like a buffalo stampede or a flash flood?

    Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    ==QUOTE== “a car drove through a city Christmas parade”: You can always tell when the MSM is trying to cover up something when they resort to this passive language. ==UNQUOTE==

    The problem here is not the grammatical construct of passive voice, but rather the refusal to identify the decision-maker who caused the mayhem. Come up with a snappy phrase to refer to this agency obfuscation, and you will be doing a public service.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @meh
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)


    The problem here is not the grammatical construct of passive voice, but rather the refusal to identify the decision-maker who caused the mayhem. Come up with a snappy phrase to refer to this agency obfuscation, and you will be doing a public service.
     
    No, the passive voice tactic is inextricably linked up with the refusal to identify the culprit; the one follows the other as night follows day.

    We already have at least one "snappy phrase" for noticing this sort of thing, it's called Coulter's Law. No doubt there are others.

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Hangnail Hans, @Hangnail Hans

  50. BLM is an antiblack eugenics movement. It’s not very good at it, though. Considering the Stalinesque numbers you have to post to seriously affect gene pools, it spreads mere fear rather than death per se.

    Occasionally they try to wield it against non-blacks, but it’s unreliable even in blue cities…

    If BLM wasn’t hitting the intended targets, they would shut it down. They would at least try to distance themselves from it. They could have funded any number of alleged-black alleged-movements, but they funded and continue to fund this one in particular. Hence, we can see it was always supposed to be about killing a bunch of blacks and buying mansions for a few key individuals.

    I suppose that Blackrock property-buying spree could be related., though I don’t normally go for complex plans. Nevertheless, it’s not impossible they’ve read their Roman history and are gearing up for the coming neo-feudal regime. Easier to be the land Lord if you tank property values everywhere first.

    P.S. Roman history parallel: Brussels = Byzantium.
    Place your bets on which immigrant group will replace the Vandals when it comes to torching DC.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Alrenous


    Roman history parallel: Brussels = Byzantium
     
    Are you saying that Brussels (42% non-European and increasing) will be an outpost of Western civilization for another thousand years?

    Replies: @Alrenous

    , @neutral
    @Alrenous


    Place your bets on which immigrant group will replace the Vandals when it comes to torching DC
     
    It will probably less of a sack of Washington and more of what happened to cities like Detroit.
  51. An interesting example of black mass shooters tending to be taken alive. (High self esteem again? Reminds of the famous bit about Patrice O’Neal talking about how he never got why white people like the song ‘Creep’)

    Recently the NFL drafted a second son of Nigerian parents whose father committed a mass shooting at the Appalachian School of Law, 6 shot, 3 dead, 3 wounded. (All white Americans including the dean)

    Guy seems to have considered failing law school as ‘the end’ but rather than turning the gun on himself he kills the dean, a professor who tried to help him and a young female student and shot 3 others but not himself. And now America has rewarded his family by making two of his sons millionaires.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_School_of_Law_shooting

    • Thanks: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Altai


    And now America has rewarded his family by making two of his sons millionaires.
     
    We did the same for another African-American with equally violent and criminal parentage:


    https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article22453820.ece/ALTERNATES/n310p/0_Charlize-Theron.jpg


    At least she's an only child who didn't breed. I don't care how good she looks. We're better off.

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Altai


    And now America has rewarded his family by making two of his sons millionaires.
     
    Pathological altruism really is going to be the end of us European people.
  52. @Mr. Anon
    @Steve Sailer

    There were crazy things like in the 1930s a local political figure killed a few dozen kids by blowing up a school.

    1927

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

    Interesting that the wiki article labels it a "disaster". Maybe it was caused by dynamite.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

    I wonder if there is a genetic link between the Bath Kehoe and this Kehoe: https://mdocweb.state.mi.us/OTIS2/otis2profile.aspx?mdocNumber=256263
    My wife was in middle school with Ortiz Kehoe.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Ron Mexico

    I watched an Investigation Discovery type of show on his case once. It stuck in my mind because of the way he reacted to the guilty verdict. I doubt he's related to the other Kehoe. Until I saw his name in writing, I thought it was Quijo.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

  53. @Twinkie
    @Reg Cæsar

    Explosives beat guns.


    “- Botanist: What do you want?
    - Learoyd: Freedom, to be like we are.
    - Botanist: Anything else?
    - Learoyd: Guns. So they can't take the freedom away.
    - Botanist: Well, I'll see what I can do.
    - Learoyd: And grenades, mortars and mines, so they can't take the guns away.”
     
    Guess the movie.

    Replies: @animalogic, @kaganovitch

    I’d also recommend some kind of anti-aircraft weapon — a manpad etc. (indeed,
    & anti-tank weapons) Why skimp ? No half-arsedness !)

  54. Anon[130] • Disclaimer says:

    Look for an attempt by academics to redefine “mass shooting” to minimize black shooter incidents. For instance, interpersonal disputes with uninvolved bystanders could be dubbed something forgettable like “peripheral involvement discharge incidents,” while sullen whities or white-adjacent Asian incidents remain “mass shootings.” They kind of did this with secondary school “acting out” taxonomy when ten hard kicks to the head were categorized with grabbing for a confiscated smart phone.

  55. @Loyalty Over IQ Worship
    @Reg Cæsar


    No, “citizenism” and “race realism” don’t have to be exclusive. Better to have both on offer, forcing the other side to choose.
     
    There other side chose a long time ago. They're anti-White!

    That way, we have some leverage left
     
    Who is the "we" in this scenario?

    You seriously want us to vote for a Gavin Newsom over a Larry Elder? That’s taking race to an insane level.
     
    Gavin Newsom is openly anti-White. A traitor is always worse than an enemy. That's why Obama was nowhere near as bad for Whites as say, George W Bush.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @AndrewR

    Who is the “we” in this scenario?

    I’m seeing Corvinus everywhere now. That’s his favorite question.

    • Replies: @Loyalty Over IQ Worship
    @Reg Cæsar

    I don't get the reference. But what I mean is, is the "we" you are referring to White people in general, or libertarians, or HBD types or who?

    In whose name are you speaking collectively?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  56. @Wade Hampton
    @lavoisier

    I don't much care, having moved away from a bad demographic area to a pretty good one.

    But if anybody wanted to actually mitigate the problem of black misbehavior there are three parts to the solution

    1) I agree with SFG's comment that Christianity is part of the solution.

    2) Stringent and violent law enforcement is another part, probably the most important.

    3) Eliminate government aid to families with dependent children. Let private charities like churches deal with that. Try to minimize black reproduction without a man in the home.

    What is the likelihood of all that happening? Close to zero, in fact the Ruling Class is pushing all these changes in the opposite direction. This is evidence that the Ruling Class wants to aggravate the problem to destablize normal society.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Justvisiting

    I agree that “Establishment” promotes the worst in blacks; also, even without that, blacks would have been hardly bearable.

    But it shows that there is no grand conspiracy behind it all. There is no profit for oligarchs, nor some elites, nor anyone with enough power to pull strings.

    This is the level of suicidal behavior not comparable with that of those promoting & profiting from slavery. After all, they treated blacks as cattle & never thought that some time in the future their progeny would have to live with those, in their view, beasts of burden.

    No, it all looks to me like a typical societal degeneracy of a society in which central ideas have run its course & doesn’t know what to do next, and is afraid to move on. Similar to ruling classes before French & Russian revolutions.

    But, there is one fundamental difference.

    Those upheavals, whatever we may think of them, had a healthy & strong idea propelling them: class & religious & .. differences should not be impediment, and men should be given equal chance. Of course- that part was correct, because the suppressed populations of their own peoples had shown to be capable of great achievements & progress.

    But here, we are dealing with something entirely different. We should go away from essentially Christian idea that men are equal (all nuances aside) & to state explicitly that groups of human collectives are fundamentally & unalterably unequal; that this inequality is a biological-cultural combination which cannot be remedied; and that a society, if it wants to survive, should act in such a manner that it promotes the best.

    In other words- meritocracy in such conditions means apartheid.

    And that would mean not only world-view revolution in the US, but in the whole world, which goes against all global ideas about human beings.

    • Replies: @David Davenport
    @Bardon Kaldian

    We should go away from essentially Christian idea that men are equal ...

    Show me a passage in the Bible in which J.C. says that.

    In other words- meritocracy in such conditions means apartheid.

    Not necessarily. Without "affirmative action" and coercive civil rights laws, meritocracy might be achieved.

  57. @Altai
    An interesting example of black mass shooters tending to be taken alive. (High self esteem again? Reminds of the famous bit about Patrice O'Neal talking about how he never got why white people like the song 'Creep')

    Recently the NFL drafted a second son of Nigerian parents whose father committed a mass shooting at the Appalachian School of Law, 6 shot, 3 dead, 3 wounded. (All white Americans including the dean)

    Guy seems to have considered failing law school as 'the end' but rather than turning the gun on himself he kills the dean, a professor who tried to help him and a young female student and shot 3 others but not himself. And now America has rewarded his family by making two of his sons millionaires.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_School_of_Law_shooting

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @The Wild Geese Howard

    And now America has rewarded his family by making two of his sons millionaires.

    We did the same for another African-American with equally violent and criminal parentage:

    [MORE]

    At least she’s an only child who didn’t breed. I don’t care how good she looks. We’re better off.

  58. @Reg Cæsar
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship


    Who is the “we” in this scenario?
     
    I'm seeing Corvinus everywhere now. That's his favorite question.

    Replies: @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    I don’t get the reference. But what I mean is, is the “we” you are referring to White people in general, or libertarians, or HBD types or who?

    In whose name are you speaking collectively?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    Steve's "concentric circles". Do a search.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  59. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @lavoisier

    Why do you care, outside of helping whites. We have no responsibility to these people or any other people besides our own.

    Don't be a part of the Sperg Right. Learn to love your own people, your own family.

    Replies: @lavoisier, @AndrewR

    Why do you care, outside of helping whites. We have no responsibility to these people or any other people besides our own.

    You have to care because they live here and are such a major problem for everyone.

    I think getting the state out of subsidizing illegitimate childbirth would be a good start, as would a legal system that allowed whites to defend themselves against black predation.

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @lavoisier

    Sorry, but that ship has sailed.

    You still think that whites can work within the system, that the system can be fixed. We can't, at least not on a national level and, but by bit due to immigration, not on the state level over time.

    As far fetched as it sounds, whites quietly building their own communities is more realistic than what you suggesting.

    Replies: @Veteran Aryan

  60. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    @meh

    ==QUOTE== “a car drove through a city Christmas parade”: You can always tell when the MSM is trying to cover up something when they resort to this passive language. ==UNQUOTE==

    The problem here is not the grammatical construct of passive voice, but rather the refusal to identify the decision-maker who caused the mayhem. Come up with a snappy phrase to refer to this agency obfuscation, and you will be doing a public service.

    Replies: @meh

    The problem here is not the grammatical construct of passive voice, but rather the refusal to identify the decision-maker who caused the mayhem. Come up with a snappy phrase to refer to this agency obfuscation, and you will be doing a public service.

    No, the passive voice tactic is inextricably linked up with the refusal to identify the culprit; the one follows the other as night follows day.

    We already have at least one “snappy phrase” for noticing this sort of thing, it’s called Coulter’s Law. No doubt there are others.

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @meh

    Anthony Daniels has mentioned this many times- his prisoner patients said things like “he knife went in” or “ the gun went off”.

    , @Hangnail Hans
    @meh

    It wasn't

    , @Hangnail Hans
    @meh

    It wasn't an example of the passive voice, however. Instead, as Mark said, they were attributing agency to a motor vehicle.

  61. @JohnnyWalker123
    Questions.

    1. Why does George Soros fund radical Black street activists?

    2. Why do Blacks shoot each other at funerals? Like, seriously, what the hell? A shooting at a funeral? People bring loaded guns to funerals?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Wade Hampton, @Achmed E. Newman, @Almost Missouri, @Rob McX

    People bring loaded guns to funerals?

    Makes more sense than bringing an unloaded gun.

    No, they have no respect for anything, Johnny.

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  62. @For what it's worth
    At one time, the best element in African-American culture (gospel music) was expressly anti-alcohol, anti-smoking, anti-gambling, anti-dancing, anti-violence, anti-promiscuity, anti-laziness, etc. The moral values were identical to those of white Christians. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOrhjgt-_Qc

    Replies: @PaceLaw, @74v56ruthiyj, @Almost Missouri, @AndrewR, @Ganderson, @John Johnson

    At one time,

    Key words. But how many Sister Rosetta Tharpes* or Mahalia Jacksons are there now? I count about zero. And on the other hand how many violence-promoting rappers are there now? Thousands, maybe millions.

    The moral values were identical to those of white Christians.

    Black Christianity has been heavily infiltrated by leftism, to the point that many (most?) black churches are little more than “social justice” fronts with a thin veneer of gospel (“liberation theology” [i.e., liberation from theology, as it is sometimes unblushingly described in the Latino churches]). Obama’s pastor Jeremiah Wright wasn’t some weird aberration. That’s what black churches are like now.

    White Christianity has been heavily infiltrated by leftism too, but whereas black (and to a lesser extent Latino) modern pseudo-Christianity inculcates resentment against whites, white modern pseudo-Christianity inculcates a false sense of guilt and other weird, self-destructive doctrines: climate changeism, etc.

    In other words, it’s worst case scenarios all the way around.

    ——

    *And for good measure, Sister Rosetta’s recordings were burned up in the 2008 Universal fire, so now it is even less likely anyone will stumble upon her accidentally.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Almost Missouri

    Greedy Jews are to blame for the lack of real black female artists. Of course where will rnr be in 20 yrs when Stones, Who, Plant, Van Morrison, Clapton, et al are gone?

    , @PaceLaw
    @Almost Missouri

    Well stated Almost Missouri. Black culture is absolutely suffused with thuggish and violent hip-hop music, while gospel music is not even really recognized, and if it is, it is only for a few minutes on Sundays.

    I also agree with your point about how black churches have been infiltrated with radical leftism. It damn near goes without saying that the overwhelming majority of black churches are not much more than outposts for the Democratic Party. What you did not mention is the popularity of the “prosperity gospel“ in black churches where that idea is that if you give a little more, or do a little more now for the church, then you will be rewarded in this life financially. So, in terms of actually believing in and living out the terms of the Gospel and the Bible, the results are quite negligible.

    Given the high rates in which many blacks attend church services, you would think their communities would be the most upright and principled, when the reality is exactly the opposite.

  63. @George Taylor
    At least 14 youth have been shot/wounded in the last two weeks in Aurora, Colorado. FYI Aurora is the dark suburb of Denver, on it's Eastern border. Apparently there all expected to survive but I wonder how many will be permanently disabled and or peeing into a colostomy bag for the rest of their lives. https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/community-leader-reacts-to-most-recent-aurora-shooting/73-1ad38682-fd2d-4876-9961-fa9a781128d8

    Replies: @PaceLaw, @Achmed E. Newman, @Anonymous

    Just a small correction, George: That bag is not for peeing in.

    That’s a quibble, but you bring up the very good point that when people tally up deaths, whether it’s from war or this black disfunction, they don’t think so much about the people whose lives are permanently ruined. Some are not nearly worth living as much as they were before the serious injuries.

    It’s not like in the old Western movies, just fall down, groan and then, that’s it.

  64. @PaceLaw
    “Mass shootings represent an almost cartoonish exaggeration of the worst of African-American culture. So this enormous increase in the worst and most stereotypical black behavior during the Great Awokening during which Americans are supposed to flatter blacks and never criticize their behavior is damning evidence that The Establishment’s obsession with condemning white racism is bringing out the worst in blacks.”

    Yikes!!! This is a devastatingly succinct summation of our current state of affairs. Black folks have been embellished and emboldened by the media, and the Democratic establishment, to an absurd extent. Just look at the liberal/Democratic local prosecutors around the country who have essentially eliminated many categories of crimes (mostly misdemeanors) which are mostly committed by blacks which, not surprisingly, leads to more crime because blacks then feel they are above the law.

    Let’s face it, black folks generally don’t mind high crime rates, just as long as it doesn’t affect them personally. That’s the only explanation as to why they allow crime in their communities as opposed to adopting get tough on crime policies and more aggressive policing. In their view, it’s better to be victimized by a local thug than policed by a white cop. In the once proud city of Baltimore, crime is spiking at a horrific rate. The black mayor, the black police chief, and the black prosecutor are all clueless as to what to do to stem the rate of shootings and murders. Sad.

    Replies: @Arclight

    Your last paragraph gets at the problem – blacks will tolerate much higher levels of disorder in their neighborhoods than just about anyone else. Having lived in a nearly all black neighborhood, even when they are disapprove of what neighbors are doing, they do not get involved or interfere in any way. The reluctance to apply social pressure lets the worst elements in the neighborhood exert a disproportionate influence over quality of life, when it should be the other way around.

    • Replies: @Recently Based
    @Arclight

    Why do you think that is?

    Replies: @Arclight

  65. @For what it's worth
    At one time, the best element in African-American culture (gospel music) was expressly anti-alcohol, anti-smoking, anti-gambling, anti-dancing, anti-violence, anti-promiscuity, anti-laziness, etc. The moral values were identical to those of white Christians. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOrhjgt-_Qc

    Replies: @PaceLaw, @74v56ruthiyj, @Almost Missouri, @AndrewR, @Ganderson, @John Johnson

    You think dancing is bad? Screw you.

    • Agree: Escher
  66. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @lavoisier

    Why do you care, outside of helping whites. We have no responsibility to these people or any other people besides our own.

    Don't be a part of the Sperg Right. Learn to love your own people, your own family.

    Replies: @lavoisier, @AndrewR

    Lmaooo you are a prime example of “the sperg right.” Good lord

    • Replies: @Loyalty Over IQ Worship
    @AndrewR

    Go spread the concept of Citizenism over on Black, Brown and Asian sites. Go preach in their neighborhoods. Let us know the results.

    This was always a time waster meant to disrupt any natural White solidarity from emerging. Some of it may have been malicious. And some of it was perma-virgins now in their 70s.

    I advise them to work on picking a nice nursing home. But not a White one! You need to go preach the good word of Citizenism to Blacks and Browns to your last day.

  67. @Redneck farmer
    @Twinkie

    Failing the drug test while looking for employment might be above not showing up for work.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    It captures all sorts of stereotypical black behaviors.

  68. @lavoisier

    The Establishment’s obsession with condemning white racism is bringing out the worst in blacks.
     
    For sure the Establishment has blood, lots of it, on their hands.

    But it is not hard to bring out the worst in blacks.


    Any ideas on how to bring out the best in blacks??

    Replies: @SFG, @SimpleSong, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Wade Hampton, @AndrewR, @Currahee, @Colin Wright, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Well when you’re digging a hole that you don’t want to be in, the first step is to stop digging.

    “Intellectuals” like Ibram X Kendi are heavily promoted by the entire elite class of our country. In my mind at least, “Dr.” Kendi is best known for his repeated insistence that “there’s nothing wrong with black people” and that white supremacy is the cause of literally EVERYTHING that is bad for blacks and/or that blacks don’t like (note: when blacks do, in fact, like things that are bad for them, the harm done to them is blamed on white people; and when blacks dislike things that are or would be good for them, people like Kendi rationalize those good things into being bad things).

    Robin DiAngelo, also heavily promoted by our elites, has an identical ideology except she’s a boomer Jewish woman instead of a millennial black man.

    These are but two of the most prominent proponents of our state religion which is objectively harmful to the short term interests of everyone except the elite and their lackeys, and harmful to the long term interests of the entire world including the elites and their descendants.

    Since a disease cannot be properly treated until it is properly diagnosed, a critical mass of society must come to understand what I have just written. Until that happens, nothing can improve.

    • Agree: lavoisier
    • Replies: @SFG
    @AndrewR

    DiAngelo is Italian.

    Otherwise, I agree…

  69. anon[269] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose
    The thing about ny times readers is you can’t tell them anything, because they already know everything. So on the topic of ‘mass shootings’ they will inform you with full confidence that almost all are carried out by white men.

    If you show them any statistics showing otherwise, they will simply get extremely annoyed and refuse to discuss the matter further. They tolerate correction about as well as blegs tolerate a ‘dis.’

    Replies: @anon

    Don’t worry. They are actively at work redefining mass shooting to reduce Black mass shooting. Raising the death count and/or putting more emphasis on dead/less on shot. Look it up.

    Meanwhile, the North Carolina Black Friday mall shooting has been memory holed in record time. The Daily Mail has one photo hinting at it being black. We know it’s black. The black police chief essentially said so. But no name, no definitive photo, no one on twitter blurting it out.

    If it isn’t called a white shooting in the headline, it’s probably black.

    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    @anon

    Speaking of Twitter. The new CEO doesn't know how to scrub his own tweets. Or just knows he doesn't have to...


    https://i.ibb.co/SmztP9x/Capture-2021-11-29-13-47-26-2.png

    Replies: @Brutusale

  70. Anonymous[176] • Disclaimer says:
    @George Taylor
    At least 14 youth have been shot/wounded in the last two weeks in Aurora, Colorado. FYI Aurora is the dark suburb of Denver, on it's Eastern border. Apparently there all expected to survive but I wonder how many will be permanently disabled and or peeing into a colostomy bag for the rest of their lives. https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/community-leader-reacts-to-most-recent-aurora-shooting/73-1ad38682-fd2d-4876-9961-fa9a781128d8

    Replies: @PaceLaw, @Achmed E. Newman, @Anonymous

    At least 14 youth have been shot/wounded in the last two weeks in Aurora, Colorado. FYI Aurora is the dark suburb of Denver, on it’s Eastern border.

    Good news, the solution is on its way!

    https://denver.cbslocal.com/2021/11/22/gun-buyback-aurora-denver/

    Gun Buyback Programs To Be Launched In Aurora And Denver Amid Increasing Crime

    By Mekialaya White
    November 22, 2021

    AURORA, Colo. (CBS4) — Aurora and Denver city leaders say now is the time to drive change after recent youth violence in their communities.

    Our hearts break at the violence we have seen in our communities, especially since the start of the pandemic. Our residents should never feel afraid to spend an afternoon at a community park or to attend a neighborhood school,” a press release issued by the cities read on Monday.

    Starting in March 2022, a new gun buyback program will be implemented in hopes of remedying the problem.

    “Our goal is to get guns off the street. What we’re seeing is an extraordinary uptick in crime in both Denver and Aurora,” Denver District 5 Councilwoman Amanda Sawyer told CBS4’s Mekialaya White via Zoom…

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Anonymous

    I hope the Denver city government has learned their lesson from this. If it hadn’t sold guns to black criminals in the first place, then it wouldn’t have to be spending taxpayer money to “buy back” all the ones that the purchasers have left lying on the pavement.

    Replies: @prosa123

  71. Unfortunately, Gun Violence Archive doesn’t keep track of the race of shooters and victims in mass shootings.

    It’s worse than that. GVA gets race information but actively strips it out of what they report. In other words, they overtly and specifically censor race data.

    People who try to report race data have to find workarounds. Kenn Gividen, for example, cleverly reconciles GVA data with (antigun) gunmemorial.org to rediscover race information.

    Still, the race aspect of most murders remains unknown. So when you hear that “only” x number of murders are black-on-white or black-on-Asian or whatever, you can safely assume the real number is at least double.

    https://www.unz.com/article/23-dead-december-2020-another-month-in-the-death-of-white-america/#comment-4407712

    And note that Gividen is just a lone voice in the wilderness, reporting this in his spare time. When he moves on, that source will dry up. The only other data source I know of is the slow and incomplete FBI reports, and the DoJ will probably shut those off soon. At that point, they will have achieved their desired total blackout of murder by blacks.

  72. @Alrenous
    BLM is an antiblack eugenics movement. It's not very good at it, though. Considering the Stalinesque numbers you have to post to seriously affect gene pools, it spreads mere fear rather than death per se.

    Occasionally they try to wield it against non-blacks, but it's unreliable even in blue cities...

    If BLM wasn't hitting the intended targets, they would shut it down. They would at least try to distance themselves from it. They could have funded any number of alleged-black alleged-movements, but they funded and continue to fund this one in particular. Hence, we can see it was always supposed to be about killing a bunch of blacks and buying mansions for a few key individuals.

    I suppose that Blackrock property-buying spree could be related., though I don't normally go for complex plans. Nevertheless, it's not impossible they've read their Roman history and are gearing up for the coming neo-feudal regime. Easier to be the land Lord if you tank property values everywhere first.

    P.S. Roman history parallel: Brussels = Byzantium.
    Place your bets on which immigrant group will replace the Vandals when it comes to torching DC.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @neutral

    Roman history parallel: Brussels = Byzantium

    Are you saying that Brussels (42% non-European and increasing) will be an outpost of Western civilization for another thousand years?

    • Replies: @Alrenous
    @Almost Missouri

    Seems quite likely!

    Nitpick: outpost of Western corruption. Note that Rome is still relatively Romanic, but Constantinople is now called Istanbul.

    Replies: @Alden

  73. @JohnnyWalker123
    Questions.

    1. Why does George Soros fund radical Black street activists?

    2. Why do Blacks shoot each other at funerals? Like, seriously, what the hell? A shooting at a funeral? People bring loaded guns to funerals?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Wade Hampton, @Achmed E. Newman, @Almost Missouri, @Rob McX

    Why do Blacks shoot each other at funerals? Like, seriously, what the hell?

    It’s one of the few times when they know where their targets will be. They’re just being practical.

    And if they miss and hit a someone else, that person is likely related to the target, which is kind of like hitting their intended target just less directly, in their minds.

    So, guaranteed target availability, and misses can still count as damaging the enemy, what’s not to like from their point of view?

    If you’re not spelunker-tier at plumbing depravity, you can’t understand these people. Or the Left in general, I might add.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Almost Missouri

    I’d guess it’s proximity like you say-you know your target is there.

    I doubt they are adding up genetic fractions like Haldane, though there might be a sense of ‘at least I can get their brother’.

  74. @Loyalty Over IQ Worship
    @Reg Cæsar


    No, “citizenism” and “race realism” don’t have to be exclusive. Better to have both on offer, forcing the other side to choose.
     
    There other side chose a long time ago. They're anti-White!

    That way, we have some leverage left
     
    Who is the "we" in this scenario?

    You seriously want us to vote for a Gavin Newsom over a Larry Elder? That’s taking race to an insane level.
     
    Gavin Newsom is openly anti-White. A traitor is always worse than an enemy. That's why Obama was nowhere near as bad for Whites as say, George W Bush.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @AndrewR

    I assume he means people who disagree with the regime’s blatant anti-whiteness.

  75. @IHTG
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Right now, something approximating "citizenism" has successfully kept Texas from flipping over to the bad guys in the face of massive demographic change. What has your side achieved?

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    What the hell are you talking about? Are GWB, Ted Cruz, Rick Perry and Greg Abbott your idea of “good guys”? Any “good guys” in Texas don’t get elected to statewide offices

  76. @For what it's worth
    At one time, the best element in African-American culture (gospel music) was expressly anti-alcohol, anti-smoking, anti-gambling, anti-dancing, anti-violence, anti-promiscuity, anti-laziness, etc. The moral values were identical to those of white Christians. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOrhjgt-_Qc

    Replies: @PaceLaw, @74v56ruthiyj, @Almost Missouri, @AndrewR, @Ganderson, @John Johnson

    I heard a version of “Comes Love” by Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong the other day- a long, steep decline from that to “Wet Ass Pussy”.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Ganderson

    I prefer Artie Shaw's version of "Comes Love". (Full disclosure; I'm a diehard Shaw fan.) But speaking of Louis Armstrong, not even Artie Shaw can top this velvety soft and silky smooth recording. Not sure casual listeners can even comprehend how much talent and skill went into it.

    https://youtu.be/zPgh7nxTQT4

    Replies: @Ganderson

    , @JMcG
    @Ganderson

    Just imagine what they’ll be comparing Wet Ass P to in sixty years. It doesn’t bear thinking about.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  77. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Reg Cæsar

    You Sperg Right folks think that you can forge some multi-racial high-IQ community out of "American Values" even as you mock the Left for wanting to forge a magical multi-racial society based on "Magic Dirt."

    You think that smart Indians, Asians, etc., will act white. Your hubris is stunning. Btw, how's that plan worked out with that oh so special tribe over the past 150 years? Not so great.

    The fact that whites carving their own communities over the next fifty years won't be easy doesn't mean we shouldn't try.

    Citizenism, like colorblind civic nationalism, is simply a way to hide without admitting to yourself that you've abandoned your people and have decided to join the other side.

    I mean, in truth, that's the smart move at the moment, and God knows the Sperg Right is smart, if, admittedly, cowards, so I suppose, you can't understand what I'm talking about. Given the odds, I'm sure you'll rationalize hiding behind Citizenism, just like ... well, nevermind who.

    As to me, I'll keep meeting with a few like minded friends, helping around the community and trying my best to very quietly build a community.

    You just keep rationalizing doing nothing. Maybe make fun of a NYT article here and there like ... well, nevermind.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @IHTG, @AndrewR, @Muggles

    The way forward is a blend of civic nationalism and ethnic nationalism. Unapologetic pro-whiteness (including severe immigration restrictionism) combined with tolerance for ethnic minorities who aren’t hostile to whites, and intolerance of self-hating whites.

    • Agree: Abe
    • LOL: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @AndrewR

    See, the difference of opinion between you and Citizen is further proof that the definition of “pro white” is subjective in nature.

  78. @Mike_from_SGV
    @SFG

    But blacks (or maybe its just their females) are famously the most churchgoing and religious, but it doesn't seem to be producing very good results.

    Replies: @PaceLaw, @thenon, @Anon, @Currahee

    Its hard for many to remember that most men and almost all women in the black community are not violent or criminal any more than poor whites. There is a subset criminal class in all groups, with the upper classes leaning strongly towards white collar crime, a difficult thing to see and of no interest to the Media. Whites are capable of violence and mayhem, if you have ever had any contact with white biker gangs you will know this. The Media and the supporters of Black left racists have drowned out any voice for Black middle class people in recent years, other than those willing to blame whitey for everything.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @thenon

    Check out the child abuse up to child murder statistics in the black community. Black women have the highest rate of physical abuse and murdering their own children of any race. Or sit in your car from about 2:30 to 4 Pm outside any school with majority black students and see how the girls behave.

    Your silly post defending blacks is proof you’ve never been around blacks, and never been a hospital worker, LEO teacher or child services worker and seen how black women treat their children. Snap, snarl slap is black motherhood

  79. @meh
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)


    The problem here is not the grammatical construct of passive voice, but rather the refusal to identify the decision-maker who caused the mayhem. Come up with a snappy phrase to refer to this agency obfuscation, and you will be doing a public service.
     
    No, the passive voice tactic is inextricably linked up with the refusal to identify the culprit; the one follows the other as night follows day.

    We already have at least one "snappy phrase" for noticing this sort of thing, it's called Coulter's Law. No doubt there are others.

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Hangnail Hans, @Hangnail Hans

    Anthony Daniels has mentioned this many times- his prisoner patients said things like “he knife went in” or “ the gun went off”.

  80. @Twinkie

    most stereotypical black behavior
     
    Although blacks disproportionately account for more of these mass shootings than the people of other races, we should keep in mind that the vast majority of blacks don’t engage in mass shootings. So I’d say the “most stereotypical black behavior” is more like not showing up for work. ;)

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @G. Poulin

    Or shooting up your former place of employment after being fired for not showing up for work.

  81. @AndrewR
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Lmaooo you are a prime example of "the sperg right." Good lord

    Replies: @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    Go spread the concept of Citizenism over on Black, Brown and Asian sites. Go preach in their neighborhoods. Let us know the results.

    This was always a time waster meant to disrupt any natural White solidarity from emerging. Some of it may have been malicious. And some of it was perma-virgins now in their 70s.

    I advise them to work on picking a nice nursing home. But not a White one! You need to go preach the good word of Citizenism to Blacks and Browns to your last day.

  82. @PaceLaw
    @George Taylor

    Wow, I used to live in Aurora back in the late 90s. I recall it being the quintessential middle-America suburban town, with very little in the way of diversity (other than a small Mexican population). It is hard to believe that “urban“ crime has invaded Aurora.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    Wow, I used to live in Aurora back in the late 90s.

    Isn’t that near Columbine?

    Looking back the school shooting there in ’99 was the first sign things were going to get spicy.

  83. What are the annual numbers before 2014?

    Tactically, a mass shooting makes sense. The ensuing panic makes a clean getaway without return fire more likely. The investigating police are overwhelmed with possible targets and evidence processing.

    When was the last white-on-black mass shooting–the SC church? Imagine the uproar over the next one when it isn’t a lone wacko.

  84. @AndrewR
    @lavoisier

    Well when you're digging a hole that you don't want to be in, the first step is to stop digging.

    "Intellectuals" like Ibram X Kendi are heavily promoted by the entire elite class of our country. In my mind at least, "Dr." Kendi is best known for his repeated insistence that "there's nothing wrong with black people" and that white supremacy is the cause of literally EVERYTHING that is bad for blacks and/or that blacks don't like (note: when blacks do, in fact, like things that are bad for them, the harm done to them is blamed on white people; and when blacks dislike things that are or would be good for them, people like Kendi rationalize those good things into being bad things).

    Robin DiAngelo, also heavily promoted by our elites, has an identical ideology except she's a boomer Jewish woman instead of a millennial black man.

    These are but two of the most prominent proponents of our state religion which is objectively harmful to the short term interests of everyone except the elite and their lackeys, and harmful to the long term interests of the entire world including the elites and their descendants.

    Since a disease cannot be properly treated until it is properly diagnosed, a critical mass of society must come to understand what I have just written. Until that happens, nothing can improve.

    Replies: @SFG

    DiAngelo is Italian.

    Otherwise, I agree…

  85. @Altai
    An interesting example of black mass shooters tending to be taken alive. (High self esteem again? Reminds of the famous bit about Patrice O'Neal talking about how he never got why white people like the song 'Creep')

    Recently the NFL drafted a second son of Nigerian parents whose father committed a mass shooting at the Appalachian School of Law, 6 shot, 3 dead, 3 wounded. (All white Americans including the dean)

    Guy seems to have considered failing law school as 'the end' but rather than turning the gun on himself he kills the dean, a professor who tried to help him and a young female student and shot 3 others but not himself. And now America has rewarded his family by making two of his sons millionaires.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_School_of_Law_shooting

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @The Wild Geese Howard

    And now America has rewarded his family by making two of his sons millionaires.

    Pathological altruism really is going to be the end of us European people.

  86. @Almost Missouri
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Why do Blacks shoot each other at funerals? Like, seriously, what the hell?
     
    It's one of the few times when they know where their targets will be. They're just being practical.

    And if they miss and hit a someone else, that person is likely related to the target, which is kind of like hitting their intended target just less directly, in their minds.

    So, guaranteed target availability, and misses can still count as damaging the enemy, what's not to like from their point of view?

    If you're not spelunker-tier at plumbing depravity, you can't understand these people. Or the Left in general, I might add.

    Replies: @SFG

    I’d guess it’s proximity like you say-you know your target is there.

    I doubt they are adding up genetic fractions like Haldane, though there might be a sense of ‘at least I can get their brother’.

  87. @JohnnyWalker123
    Questions.

    1. Why does George Soros fund radical Black street activists?

    2. Why do Blacks shoot each other at funerals? Like, seriously, what the hell? A shooting at a funeral? People bring loaded guns to funerals?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Wade Hampton, @Achmed E. Newman, @Almost Missouri, @Rob McX

    Why do Blacks shoot each other at funerals?

    They’re getting a kickback from the undertakers?

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian, Alden
  88. The problem, Mr. Sailer, is you haven’t made a strong case that they’re related and/or that one has caused the other. How are you going to convince people who do not already hold your hateful views???

  89. @New Dealer
    Updating recent topics.

    https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1465028734453493764

    Waukesha will hold a moment of silence today, marking one week since a car drove through a city Christmas parade, killing six people and injuring scores of others.

     

    It’s official! Raped women assigned fewer intersectional pokemon points than any Muslim.
    https://news.yahoo.com/canadian-school-district-cancels-speech-011249439.html

    A woman who lived through kidnapping and sexual slavery at the hands of ISIS had an event cancelled by a Canadian school board due to fears of "Islamophobia."
     

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Abolish_public_education, @meh, @Adam Smith, @Rob McX

    Waukesha SUV Charged With Six Counts Of Murder

    Meanwhile in Wisconsin…

    Waukesha will hold a moment of silence today, marking one week since a violent BLM inspired black nationalist plowed his SUV through a Christmas parade, killing six white people and injuring scores of others in an anti-white terror attack.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  90. @Almost Missouri
    @For what it's worth


    At one time,
     
    Key words. But how many Sister Rosetta Tharpes* or Mahalia Jacksons are there now? I count about zero. And on the other hand how many violence-promoting rappers are there now? Thousands, maybe millions.

    The moral values were identical to those of white Christians.
     
    Black Christianity has been heavily infiltrated by leftism, to the point that many (most?) black churches are little more than "social justice" fronts with a thin veneer of gospel ("liberation theology" [i.e., liberation from theology, as it is sometimes unblushingly described in the Latino churches]). Obama's pastor Jeremiah Wright wasn't some weird aberration. That's what black churches are like now.

    White Christianity has been heavily infiltrated by leftism too, but whereas black (and to a lesser extent Latino) modern pseudo-Christianity inculcates resentment against whites, white modern pseudo-Christianity inculcates a false sense of guilt and other weird, self-destructive doctrines: climate changeism, etc.

    In other words, it's worst case scenarios all the way around.

    ------

    *And for good measure, Sister Rosetta's recordings were burned up in the 2008 Universal fire, so now it is even less likely anyone will stumble upon her accidentally.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @PaceLaw

    Greedy Jews are to blame for the lack of real black female artists. Of course where will rnr be in 20 yrs when Stones, Who, Plant, Van Morrison, Clapton, et al are gone?

  91. @Anonymous
    @George Taylor


    At least 14 youth have been shot/wounded in the last two weeks in Aurora, Colorado. FYI Aurora is the dark suburb of Denver, on it’s Eastern border.
     
    Good news, the solution is on its way!

    https://denver.cbslocal.com/2021/11/22/gun-buyback-aurora-denver/

    Gun Buyback Programs To Be Launched In Aurora And Denver Amid Increasing Crime

    By Mekialaya White
    November 22, 2021

    AURORA, Colo. (CBS4) — Aurora and Denver city leaders say now is the time to drive change after recent youth violence in their communities.

    Our hearts break at the violence we have seen in our communities, especially since the start of the pandemic. Our residents should never feel afraid to spend an afternoon at a community park or to attend a neighborhood school,” a press release issued by the cities read on Monday.

    Starting in March 2022, a new gun buyback program will be implemented in hopes of remedying the problem.

    “Our goal is to get guns off the street. What we’re seeing is an extraordinary uptick in crime in both Denver and Aurora,” Denver District 5 Councilwoman Amanda Sawyer told CBS4’s Mekialaya White via Zoom...
     

    Replies: @Alfa158

    I hope the Denver city government has learned their lesson from this. If it hadn’t sold guns to black criminals in the first place, then it wouldn’t have to be spending taxpayer money to “buy back” all the ones that the purchasers have left lying on the pavement.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @Alfa158

    I hope the Denver city government has learned their lesson from this. If it hadn’t sold guns to black criminals in the first place, then it wouldn’t have to be spending taxpayer money to “buy back” all the ones that the purchasers have left lying on the pavement.

    The buyback in the suburb of Aurora, not Denver itself.
    In any event, neither Denver nor any other city sells guns.

    Replies: @Rob

  92. @Mike_from_SGV
    @SFG

    But blacks (or maybe its just their females) are famously the most churchgoing and religious, but it doesn't seem to be producing very good results.

    Replies: @PaceLaw, @thenon, @Anon, @Currahee

    But blacks (or maybe its just their females) are famously the most churchgoing and religious, but it doesn’t seem to be producing very good results.

    Their religious practices are largely black liberation theology, not traditional love-one-another, turn-the -other-cheek Christianity.

  93. @Twinkie
    @Reg Cæsar

    Explosives beat guns.


    “- Botanist: What do you want?
    - Learoyd: Freedom, to be like we are.
    - Botanist: Anything else?
    - Learoyd: Guns. So they can't take the freedom away.
    - Botanist: Well, I'll see what I can do.
    - Learoyd: And grenades, mortars and mines, so they can't take the guns away.”
     
    Guess the movie.

    Replies: @animalogic, @kaganovitch

    Milius’ finest.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @kaganovitch

    It's a very underappreciate and underrated film. Probably was Milius's finest work until Rome.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Brutusale

  94. @Steve Sailer
    @Hangnail Hans

    There were crazy things like in the 1930s a local political figure killed a few dozen kids by blowing up a school.

    It would be interesting to know how many bystanders were hit in Chicago gangland killings during Prohibition.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Kronos, @Joe Stalin, @J.Ross

    It would be interesting to know how many bystanders were hit in Chicago gangland killings during Prohibition.

    Revolvers were the apparent weapons of choice; you don’t spray-and-prey with 5-6 shots.

    Even the venerable Colt M1911 only had a 7-round mag.

    Weren’t many center-fire semi-autos rifles or trench brooms available to criminals then.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Joe Stalin

    Re: "Trench brooms" used by Prohibition gangsters.

    Yes, their magazines held a lot of rounds and could fire quickly.

    I once went w/ friends to a range and we rented a Thompson machine gun (stick mag model).

    It fires .45 bullets. Loud, slow and heavy.

    What I discovered was that it was hard to hit anything with that due to the extreme kicking and bucking. A .45 auto pistol packs a kick. The Thompson rides up hard and is very hard to aim with a long burst. A couple of shots okay, but more than three and control goes away.

    A shotgun would be far more lethal in a crowd. Fortunately very few criminals use those.

    I have never heard of gangsters using them. They are loud (like all firearms) and hard to conceal.

    Other than the rural blacks (Blacks!) few black people seem to hunt game or birds in particular. .

    Of course you can't hold a shotgun sideways and shoot it to Look Cool.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @John Johnson

  95. Anon[473] • Disclaimer says:

    I submit that a contributor to the 2020 violence was the lockdowns in response to COVID.

    The lockdowns caused a severe economic downturn. People got laid off. Businesses closed.

    That created people with time on their hands. They sought to rob. Others sought to make extra money illegally, and violence accompanies illegal activity.

    In the early weeks of the lockdown I stated to others that I sensed social tension.

  96. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Reg Cæsar

    You Sperg Right folks think that you can forge some multi-racial high-IQ community out of "American Values" even as you mock the Left for wanting to forge a magical multi-racial society based on "Magic Dirt."

    You think that smart Indians, Asians, etc., will act white. Your hubris is stunning. Btw, how's that plan worked out with that oh so special tribe over the past 150 years? Not so great.

    The fact that whites carving their own communities over the next fifty years won't be easy doesn't mean we shouldn't try.

    Citizenism, like colorblind civic nationalism, is simply a way to hide without admitting to yourself that you've abandoned your people and have decided to join the other side.

    I mean, in truth, that's the smart move at the moment, and God knows the Sperg Right is smart, if, admittedly, cowards, so I suppose, you can't understand what I'm talking about. Given the odds, I'm sure you'll rationalize hiding behind Citizenism, just like ... well, nevermind who.

    As to me, I'll keep meeting with a few like minded friends, helping around the community and trying my best to very quietly build a community.

    You just keep rationalizing doing nothing. Maybe make fun of a NYT article here and there like ... well, nevermind.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @IHTG, @AndrewR, @Muggles

    Citizenism, like colorblind civic nationalism, is simply a way to hide without admitting to yourself that you’ve abandoned your people and have decided to join the other side.

    As to me, I’ll keep meeting with a few like minded friends, helping around the community and trying my best to very quietly build a community.

    You keep showing up here sneering at everyone else about how hopeless we are, inventing new insults as you go (“sperg right” etc.).

    Now you claim everyone but you is doing nothing. You on the other hand, do nothing but piss on someone else’s shoes and pretend to be doing something.

    Well, have fun at your monthly Klan rally. I’m sure the farmers appreciate the fact that you pick up those beer bottles afterwards. “Helping around the community” and such.

    Why don’t you help the iSteve community here and go away. “Help” elsewhere.

  97. @Joe Stalin
    @Steve Sailer


    It would be interesting to know how many bystanders were hit in Chicago gangland killings during Prohibition.
     
    Revolvers were the apparent weapons of choice; you don't spray-and-prey with 5-6 shots.

    Even the venerable Colt M1911 only had a 7-round mag.

    Weren't many center-fire semi-autos rifles or trench brooms available to criminals then.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5QB2pDHgU0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIo6iJBBdE

    Replies: @Muggles

    Re: “Trench brooms” used by Prohibition gangsters.

    Yes, their magazines held a lot of rounds and could fire quickly.

    I once went w/ friends to a range and we rented a Thompson machine gun (stick mag model).

    It fires .45 bullets. Loud, slow and heavy.

    What I discovered was that it was hard to hit anything with that due to the extreme kicking and bucking. A .45 auto pistol packs a kick. The Thompson rides up hard and is very hard to aim with a long burst. A couple of shots okay, but more than three and control goes away.

    A shotgun would be far more lethal in a crowd. Fortunately very few criminals use those.

    I have never heard of gangsters using them. They are loud (like all firearms) and hard to conceal.

    Other than the rural blacks (Blacks!) few black people seem to hunt game or birds in particular. .

    Of course you can’t hold a shotgun sideways and shoot it to Look Cool.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Muggles

    Stick mag reportedly feeds more reliably than the iconic disc. Marines fired accurately (using "walking," but still) with the Thompson during the Banana Wars.

    , @John Johnson
    @Muggles

    What I discovered was that it was hard to hit anything with that due to the extreme kicking and bucking. A .45 auto pistol packs a kick. The Thompson rides up hard and is very hard to aim with a long burst. A couple of shots okay, but more than three and control goes away.

    A shotgun would be far more lethal in a crowd. Fortunately very few criminals use those.

    The tommy guns were often used by criminals to get away or use as covering fire. There are plenty of cases where they killed police or Federal agents with them which is why they were de facto banned.

    I have never heard of gangsters using them. They are loud (like all firearms) and hard to conceal.

    They will use shotguns defensively inside homes. For example if they are dealing inside a home they will stick a gangster in another room with a shotgun. If something goes wrong he will come out and shuck it.

    The media reports stories where negroes kill multiple people which are mostly attacks where they brought a weapon. One or two people being killed inside a home over a drug deal is just background noise to the media.

  98. @Wade Hampton
    @lavoisier

    I don't much care, having moved away from a bad demographic area to a pretty good one.

    But if anybody wanted to actually mitigate the problem of black misbehavior there are three parts to the solution

    1) I agree with SFG's comment that Christianity is part of the solution.

    2) Stringent and violent law enforcement is another part, probably the most important.

    3) Eliminate government aid to families with dependent children. Let private charities like churches deal with that. Try to minimize black reproduction without a man in the home.

    What is the likelihood of all that happening? Close to zero, in fact the Ruling Class is pushing all these changes in the opposite direction. This is evidence that the Ruling Class wants to aggravate the problem to destablize normal society.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Justvisiting

    The elites have flooded the mass media and corporate advertising with positive message showing black men as loyal family men with children and interests in the arts and sciences and other aspects of high civilization.

    This has been a total failure.

    It is probably worth trying the opposite approach to see what happens.

    Have all black men in advertising getting dissed at each other and start shooting each other at parties and funerals.

    “Science” is all about experimenting with alternatives to see what works!

  99. @Ron Mexico
    @Mr. Anon

    I wonder if there is a genetic link between the Bath Kehoe and this Kehoe: https://mdocweb.state.mi.us/OTIS2/otis2profile.aspx?mdocNumber=256263
    My wife was in middle school with Ortiz Kehoe.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    I watched an Investigation Discovery type of show on his case once. It stuck in my mind because of the way he reacted to the guilty verdict. I doubt he’s related to the other Kehoe. Until I saw his name in writing, I thought it was Quijo.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Rob McX

    His case was on Bill Kurtis years ago. Made me sick. He's where he belongs. The Bath Kehoe is most assuredly where he belongs, too.

  100. @PaceLaw
    @Mike_from_SGV

    Well that’s a good point. I would guess that much of the church going in the black community is either performative (keeping “Up with the Joneses” and for appearances sake) or as part of the “prosperity gospel“ where certain actions will bring you riches in this world, almost along the lines of buying a lottery ticket (which, if you are not aware, is still a very big thing in the back community. I was at a gas station recently where a lady literally paid out $200 in cash for lottery tickets. Yikes!).

    Replies: @Rob

    Wow. I totally understand buying a lottery ticket for the multimillion once-a-week(?) lottery. Even twenty bucks whenever it hits a record. Hope is a valuable thing to have.

    My friend Josh used to buy a weekly lottery ticket.

    Me: Lottery winners are usually broke and in debt in x years.
    Him: Have you seen the other people who buy lottery tickets?
    Me: You do have a point…

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    @Rob

    Government-run lotteries are sold at the ballot box, to a gullible voting public, with the promise that the proceeds will be used to fund the schools.

    In fact, the referendum results in the creation of a large, inefficient, lottery bureaucracy staffed by politically connected dolts. Net profits are unimpressive, in that expenses eat up the bulk of ticket sales revenues, e.g. commissioners -- who don't even show-up -- receive six figure salaries, expense accounts, and lavish pensions.

    Then, in typical political shell game fashion, whatever the amount of money leftover that does flow to the school fund (i.e. trickle-down government), the politicians simply reduce from what would they would have otherwise appropriated to the schools. Keep in mind that lottery ticket purchases are very popular with the poor. School/bureaucrat spending gets laundered as AFDC.

    As if all that's not bad enough, as we see yet again today, the schools are often physically dangerous places that need to be closed as public health hazards. If we won't a_p_e, or even just end compulsory attendance, then kids should at least be able to CCW. Their #2 rights don't suspend just because they're drafted.

  101. @New Dealer
    Updating recent topics.

    https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1465028734453493764

    Waukesha will hold a moment of silence today, marking one week since a car drove through a city Christmas parade, killing six people and injuring scores of others.

     

    It’s official! Raped women assigned fewer intersectional pokemon points than any Muslim.
    https://news.yahoo.com/canadian-school-district-cancels-speech-011249439.html

    A woman who lived through kidnapping and sexual slavery at the hands of ISIS had an event cancelled by a Canadian school board due to fears of "Islamophobia."
     

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Abolish_public_education, @meh, @Adam Smith, @Rob McX

    …a car drove through a city Christmas parade…

    Funny how AR-15s never achieve that kind of autonomy.

  102. @anon
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Don't worry. They are actively at work redefining mass shooting to reduce Black mass shooting. Raising the death count and/or putting more emphasis on dead/less on shot. Look it up.

    Meanwhile, the North Carolina Black Friday mall shooting has been memory holed in record time. The Daily Mail has one photo hinting at it being black. We know it's black. The black police chief essentially said so. But no name, no definitive photo, no one on twitter blurting it out.

    If it isn't called a white shooting in the headline, it's probably black.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

    Speaking of Twitter. The new CEO doesn’t know how to scrub his own tweets. Or just knows he doesn’t have to…

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Hangnail Hans

    Is it a paradigm in big-t Tech for the founding nerd almost always being replaced by an asshat desi?

  103. @meh
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)


    The problem here is not the grammatical construct of passive voice, but rather the refusal to identify the decision-maker who caused the mayhem. Come up with a snappy phrase to refer to this agency obfuscation, and you will be doing a public service.
     
    No, the passive voice tactic is inextricably linked up with the refusal to identify the culprit; the one follows the other as night follows day.

    We already have at least one "snappy phrase" for noticing this sort of thing, it's called Coulter's Law. No doubt there are others.

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Hangnail Hans, @Hangnail Hans

    It wasn’t

  104. @meh
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)


    The problem here is not the grammatical construct of passive voice, but rather the refusal to identify the decision-maker who caused the mayhem. Come up with a snappy phrase to refer to this agency obfuscation, and you will be doing a public service.
     
    No, the passive voice tactic is inextricably linked up with the refusal to identify the culprit; the one follows the other as night follows day.

    We already have at least one "snappy phrase" for noticing this sort of thing, it's called Coulter's Law. No doubt there are others.

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Hangnail Hans, @Hangnail Hans

    It wasn’t an example of the passive voice, however. Instead, as Mark said, they were attributing agency to a motor vehicle.

  105. “Unfortunately, Gun Violence Archive doesn’t keep track of the race of shooters and victims in mass shootings.”

    Very convenient for Steve and his theory. But I do know Sailer’s Law on Hairy Hands and such correlates with T levels (a sensitive subject for the iSteve Team) in men. Also, white men used to be very good at organized violence and killing. That’s how we won the world before Boomers lost themselves in yellow ties, marketism, and the Beatles. Before Boomer (BB), white men swept the street with a Thompson spitting out .45 rounds. And followed up with headshots from a .44 revolver for the dying and wounded.

  106. @lavoisier

    The Establishment’s obsession with condemning white racism is bringing out the worst in blacks.
     
    For sure the Establishment has blood, lots of it, on their hands.

    But it is not hard to bring out the worst in blacks.


    Any ideas on how to bring out the best in blacks??

    Replies: @SFG, @SimpleSong, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Wade Hampton, @AndrewR, @Currahee, @Colin Wright, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Negro Christianity was a mostly musical experience.

  107. @Mike_from_SGV
    @SFG

    But blacks (or maybe its just their females) are famously the most churchgoing and religious, but it doesn't seem to be producing very good results.

    Replies: @PaceLaw, @thenon, @Anon, @Currahee

    Superstition: black magic. Rev. Ike would sell devotees a prayer cloth, which he encouraged them to take to court appearances.

  108. @lavoisier

    The Establishment’s obsession with condemning white racism is bringing out the worst in blacks.
     
    For sure the Establishment has blood, lots of it, on their hands.

    But it is not hard to bring out the worst in blacks.


    Any ideas on how to bring out the best in blacks??

    Replies: @SFG, @SimpleSong, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Wade Hampton, @AndrewR, @Currahee, @Colin Wright, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    ‘Any ideas on how to bring out the best in blacks??’

    Study the opening scenes of Gone with the Wind.

    …failing that, Jim Crow kinda worked.

    …but seriously, boys and girls. People have to shake this mischievous idea that blacks somehow could be, should be, are the equal of whites and other races, or could be treated as if they are.

    They can’t. Four-fifths of the problems we see right now stem from trying to pretend otherwise.

    It’s not like blacks are inherently evil, or even inherently dysfunctional. They’ve become that way, because we’ve insisted on trying to make them into something that they’re not.

    • Agree: Rob McX, Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Alden
    @Colin Wright

    Gone With The Wind. Horrible horrible movie glorifying blacks. Blacks in every scene. Screeching their gug guh guu language. Book was just as bad. I don’t like all those dialect books. Like Huck Finn. Difficult to read with all those words with apostrophes substituted for letters.

    First scene lawn trees facade of house. Pretty Scarlett in her pretty dress talking to 2 young men.

    Second scene ext of the house windows. Window pops open and the ugliest black woman the casting director could find sticks her gorilla face out and starts screeching incoherently.

    I saw enough blacks at work downtown in certain areas of the city. Who wants to watch them in a movie.

    I know I know Scarlett was based on Mitchell’s grandmother who owned a sawmill using rented convict labor. The characters and various stories were real. Scarlett was really a 1920’s flapper like Zelda Fitzgerald and Mitchell herself going out of her way to shock the older ladies.

    The carpetbaggers and reconstruction scalawag collaborators were real. I have family history of a scalawag uncle cheating 3 teen orphans out of 2 plantations and several blocks of prime downtown real estate in Frankfurt Kentucky. And using the money he stole to found The Denver Post. Yes, GOTW is real.

    Everything southern but the music is ruined by the Black Plague.

    The absolute absolute worst scenes in the movie are the ones where the po’ White trash ambushes Scarlett and attempts to presumably rape her. And she’s saved by her big brave black devoted slave. De construct that scene. He throws off several White attempted rapists as if they were scare cries and rescues the Princess.

    And then Ashley and other White men in the secretive KKK go out at night to punish the White men who ambushed and tried to rape Scarlett?????

    Alden knows pro black communist propaganda when she sees it. Margaret Mitchell isn’t much different from Richard Wright Harper Lee Truman Capote or any other pro black propagandist

    Enjoy GOTW. But be aware of the underlying message.

    A much better book and movie is Cold Mountain. Located in western N Carolina Appalachia. Because no hideous screeching blacks ruining it.

    Certain things GOTW Kill a Mockingbird Scottsboro boy’s Emmett Till turn on the Alden truth telling machine.

  109. @thenon
    @Mike_from_SGV

    Its hard for many to remember that most men and almost all women in the black community are not violent or criminal any more than poor whites. There is a subset criminal class in all groups, with the upper classes leaning strongly towards white collar crime, a difficult thing to see and of no interest to the Media. Whites are capable of violence and mayhem, if you have ever had any contact with white biker gangs you will know this. The Media and the supporters of Black left racists have drowned out any voice for Black middle class people in recent years, other than those willing to blame whitey for everything.

    Replies: @Alden

    Check out the child abuse up to child murder statistics in the black community. Black women have the highest rate of physical abuse and murdering their own children of any race. Or sit in your car from about 2:30 to 4 Pm outside any school with majority black students and see how the girls behave.

    Your silly post defending blacks is proof you’ve never been around blacks, and never been a hospital worker, LEO teacher or child services worker and seen how black women treat their children. Snap, snarl slap is black motherhood

  110. @Alfa158
    @Anonymous

    I hope the Denver city government has learned their lesson from this. If it hadn’t sold guns to black criminals in the first place, then it wouldn’t have to be spending taxpayer money to “buy back” all the ones that the purchasers have left lying on the pavement.

    Replies: @prosa123

    I hope the Denver city government has learned their lesson from this. If it hadn’t sold guns to black criminals in the first place, then it wouldn’t have to be spending taxpayer money to “buy back” all the ones that the purchasers have left lying on the pavement.

    The buyback in the suburb of Aurora, not Denver itself.
    In any event, neither Denver nor any other city sells guns.

    • Replies: @Rob
    @prosa123


    The buyback in the suburb of Aurora, not Denver itself.
    In any event, neither Denver nor any other city sells guns.
     
    This is just too good! If alpha158 wanted to be the first to respond to this, he shoulda refreshed faster. Unless he scoops me.

    That [Aurora] does not sell guns is why it is not a buyback. It’s just the city of Aurora on a gun-buying spree!

    OMG! This is totally how cons should report gun buybacks. “City of Aurora Intends to Purchase Dozens of Illegal Handguns”

    Then in the body of the article, maybe explain why, but maybe to say things like “Councilwoman X claims city will destroy them, but offered no proof for this assertion. When this reporter asked to see proof that the guns from the buyback [sic] would “be destroyed, and not handed out to younger would-be criminals, she looked very surprised, shocked, even, and stammered, “They will not be supplied to younger children!” taking a visible effort to compose herself, she claimed she would “have to check with the mayor for proof.”...

    Y’know, like the far-left media does.
  111. @Ganderson
    @For what it's worth

    I heard a version of “Comes Love” by Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong the other day- a long, steep decline from that to “Wet Ass Pussy”.

    Replies: @Kylie, @JMcG

    I prefer Artie Shaw’s version of “Comes Love”. (Full disclosure; I’m a diehard Shaw fan.) But speaking of Louis Armstrong, not even Artie Shaw can top this velvety soft and silky smooth recording. Not sure casual listeners can even comprehend how much talent and skill went into it.

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @Kylie

    Both versions are great, IMHO My first hearing of the song was the Artie Shaw version- Helen Forrest was the bomb, as the young folks would say. There’s a few more verses in the Ella version. Great song!

  112. @Thomm
    @Reg Cæsar


    You seriously want us to vote for a Gavin Newsom over a Larry Elder? That’s taking race to an insane level.
     
    er.... these are already males who say that having sex with a pretty mulatto woman like a 1995 Halle Berry is worse than having sex with a white man. Their rationale is that race loyalty has to trump sexual orientation, and producing no baby is better than producing a mulatto baby.

    This question has been posed to many of the most strident WN types over here, and not one would say that having sex with a pretty mulatto woman is preferable to having sex with a white man.

    Commenter Truth can vouch for having witnessed this many times.

    So voting for Newsom over Elder is nowhere near the lengths they are willing to go.


    This comment should not be moderated, as it is very on-topic to the question posed.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Boomthorkell, @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna, @Truth

    …not one would say that having sex with a pretty mulatto woman is preferable to having sex with a white man.

    I found that young Somali and other East African women still possess that intense feminine élan once common and so fetching among European girls, and that I missed so much after returning to America. They were fun to observe from afar, but there was no temptation to “hook up”. I’d no more “do it” with an Afghan than an Afghan hound.

    Why not? Because I had long since grown up from a desire for “having sex” to one for having children. That closed off any thought of them as potential mates, for racial and religious reasons. That’s not what I want my kids to be. I told myself I might marry a half-Asian woman, but not a full-Asian one. Indeed, I was wary of white women of a single stock, say, Irish. (The children I finally did sired have ten known Western European ethnicities.)

    So you mock others’ immaturity while displaying your own.

    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thomm just wants to signal he's "better", for some ludicrous reason. It's odd because any group he's signaling to despises Trump (Supply and Demand, for example, wishes universal death and suffering upon anyone in the old country), whom he allegedly likes? It's just silly really.

    It's doubly odd he appeals to Truth, who being associated with is about as damning as being associated with Corvinus on the spiritual plane. Defenders and honorers of child rapists! Wild.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Truth
    @Reg Cæsar


    Why not? Because I had long since grown up from a desire for “having sex” to one for having children.
     
    Well, they're kind of hard to separate, Old Sport, unless you get a lab involved.

    But quite honestly, and I mean this question with no malice intended becuase you've been here over a decade, you're how old now?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  113. @Loyalty Over IQ Worship
    @Reg Cæsar

    I don't get the reference. But what I mean is, is the "we" you are referring to White people in general, or libertarians, or HBD types or who?

    In whose name are you speaking collectively?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Steve’s “concentric circles”. Do a search.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    The enemies of white people don’t see any “concentric circles”. They see us all is the enemy.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  114. @Loyalty Over IQ Worship
    @Reg Cæsar


    I have a narrow definition of my race, the same as great-great-grandfathers had. Much narrower than yours
     
    Ah, but anti-Whites have a very broad definition of race (and a much more correct one).

    In our current environment, failing to realize one's total group is under attack is a moral crime and a practical disaster. If Japan were attacked by someone who hated the Japanese, it's not good for someone on the northern tip of Japan to say, "oh well, I'm a true Japanese, I ain't worried about those others".

    Your enemy gets a vote with regard to what group you're in!

    The old strategy of divide and conquer is not something we should do to ourselves. Which is what all this slice 'em dice'em fragmentation of Whites amounts to in the 21st century.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Your enemy gets a vote with regard to what group you’re in!

    Not in my republic! I’m disenfranchising them.

  115. @prosa123
    @Alfa158

    I hope the Denver city government has learned their lesson from this. If it hadn’t sold guns to black criminals in the first place, then it wouldn’t have to be spending taxpayer money to “buy back” all the ones that the purchasers have left lying on the pavement.

    The buyback in the suburb of Aurora, not Denver itself.
    In any event, neither Denver nor any other city sells guns.

    Replies: @Rob

    The buyback in the suburb of Aurora, not Denver itself.
    In any event, neither Denver nor any other city sells guns.

    This is just too good! If alpha158 wanted to be the first to respond to this, he shoulda refreshed faster. Unless he scoops me.

    That [Aurora] does not sell guns is why it is not a buyback. It’s just the city of Aurora on a gun-buying spree!

    OMG! This is totally how cons should report gun buybacks. “City of Aurora Intends to Purchase Dozens of Illegal Handguns”

    Then in the body of the article, maybe explain why, but maybe to say things like “Councilwoman X claims city will destroy them, but offered no proof for this assertion. When this reporter asked to see proof that the guns from the buyback [sic] would “be destroyed, and not handed out to younger would-be criminals, she looked very surprised, shocked, even, and stammered, “They will not be supplied to younger children!” taking a visible effort to compose herself, she claimed she would “have to check with the mayor for proof.”…

    Y’know, like the far-left media does.

  116. @Rob McX
    @Ron Mexico

    I watched an Investigation Discovery type of show on his case once. It stuck in my mind because of the way he reacted to the guilty verdict. I doubt he's related to the other Kehoe. Until I saw his name in writing, I thought it was Quijo.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

    His case was on Bill Kurtis years ago. Made me sick. He’s where he belongs. The Bath Kehoe is most assuredly where he belongs, too.

  117. @Alrenous
    BLM is an antiblack eugenics movement. It's not very good at it, though. Considering the Stalinesque numbers you have to post to seriously affect gene pools, it spreads mere fear rather than death per se.

    Occasionally they try to wield it against non-blacks, but it's unreliable even in blue cities...

    If BLM wasn't hitting the intended targets, they would shut it down. They would at least try to distance themselves from it. They could have funded any number of alleged-black alleged-movements, but they funded and continue to fund this one in particular. Hence, we can see it was always supposed to be about killing a bunch of blacks and buying mansions for a few key individuals.

    I suppose that Blackrock property-buying spree could be related., though I don't normally go for complex plans. Nevertheless, it's not impossible they've read their Roman history and are gearing up for the coming neo-feudal regime. Easier to be the land Lord if you tank property values everywhere first.

    P.S. Roman history parallel: Brussels = Byzantium.
    Place your bets on which immigrant group will replace the Vandals when it comes to torching DC.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @neutral

    Place your bets on which immigrant group will replace the Vandals when it comes to torching DC

    It will probably less of a sack of Washington and more of what happened to cities like Detroit.

  118. In other news, Twitter just replaced its CEO with a mean ugly fat girl:

  119. @74v56ruthiyj
    @For what it's worth

    A large number of Black preachers were/are in it for the money and the cooze, MLK, Jesse Jackson, and Ralph Abernathy among them. The tail-chasing, tithe-stealing preacher is a staple of Black folklore. Sometimes it's a father-to-son-to-grandson thing. The congregation knows, but accepts it as normal.

    Replies: @Barnard, @magilla, @Gary in Gramercy, @Reg Cæsar

    The aptly named Creflo Dollar, with his Rolls Royce, private jet and \$10 million plus in multiple homes is only an outlier in terms of his success at running the grift. Although he seems much more focused on making money than on any sort of social change.

  120. @Kylie
    @Ganderson

    I prefer Artie Shaw's version of "Comes Love". (Full disclosure; I'm a diehard Shaw fan.) But speaking of Louis Armstrong, not even Artie Shaw can top this velvety soft and silky smooth recording. Not sure casual listeners can even comprehend how much talent and skill went into it.

    https://youtu.be/zPgh7nxTQT4

    Replies: @Ganderson

    Both versions are great, IMHO My first hearing of the song was the Artie Shaw version- Helen Forrest was the bomb, as the young folks would say. There’s a few more verses in the Ella version. Great song!

    • Agree: Kylie
  121. @Ganderson
    @For what it's worth

    I heard a version of “Comes Love” by Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong the other day- a long, steep decline from that to “Wet Ass Pussy”.

    Replies: @Kylie, @JMcG

    Just imagine what they’ll be comparing Wet Ass P to in sixty years. It doesn’t bear thinking about.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @JMcG

    Mr. McG, if it comes down to that, humans won't be comparing anything to anything with speech, much less writing. They'll be screeching around banging the ground with bones, hoping to run into the 2001 black obelisk to speed up their evolution, put there by the White race living underground, with cameras and popcorn...

    ...OK, or the Chinese underground, if you want to make more money off the movie treatment of my idea.

  122. @Steve Sailer
    @Hangnail Hans

    There were crazy things like in the 1930s a local political figure killed a few dozen kids by blowing up a school.

    It would be interesting to know how many bystanders were hit in Chicago gangland killings during Prohibition.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Kronos, @Joe Stalin, @J.Ross

    None of that is a mass shooting, mass shootings are the most obviously artificial crowdnudge ever.

  123. @Hangnail Hans
    Before the 1970s there was that guy at the University of Texas who had a brain tumor. 1966. There was some other incident two or three decades before that, involving two families and a legal dispute I believe. Anything else? Back in the "bad old days"??

    What is now the rule was once the exception.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Steve Sailer, @74v56ruthiyj, @J.Ross

    Somewhere I have a pic of two good ol’ boys in lawnchairs with shotguns. Caption: some Monday-rejecting idiot said he was going to shoot up the school. So every dad showed up with a gun. And the idiot never showed.
    Shooting was the biggest school sport in the 50s and there wasn’t one school shooting, there wasn’t one.

  124. @Muggles
    @Joe Stalin

    Re: "Trench brooms" used by Prohibition gangsters.

    Yes, their magazines held a lot of rounds and could fire quickly.

    I once went w/ friends to a range and we rented a Thompson machine gun (stick mag model).

    It fires .45 bullets. Loud, slow and heavy.

    What I discovered was that it was hard to hit anything with that due to the extreme kicking and bucking. A .45 auto pistol packs a kick. The Thompson rides up hard and is very hard to aim with a long burst. A couple of shots okay, but more than three and control goes away.

    A shotgun would be far more lethal in a crowd. Fortunately very few criminals use those.

    I have never heard of gangsters using them. They are loud (like all firearms) and hard to conceal.

    Other than the rural blacks (Blacks!) few black people seem to hunt game or birds in particular. .

    Of course you can't hold a shotgun sideways and shoot it to Look Cool.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @John Johnson

    Stick mag reportedly feeds more reliably than the iconic disc. Marines fired accurately (using “walking,” but still) with the Thompson during the Banana Wars.

  125. @lavoisier

    The Establishment’s obsession with condemning white racism is bringing out the worst in blacks.
     
    For sure the Establishment has blood, lots of it, on their hands.

    But it is not hard to bring out the worst in blacks.


    Any ideas on how to bring out the best in blacks??

    Replies: @SFG, @SimpleSong, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Wade Hampton, @AndrewR, @Currahee, @Colin Wright, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Any ideas on how to bring out the best in blacks??

    Sorry, that program here ended in 1865.

    • LOL: PaceLaw
  126. @Almost Missouri
    @For what it's worth


    At one time,
     
    Key words. But how many Sister Rosetta Tharpes* or Mahalia Jacksons are there now? I count about zero. And on the other hand how many violence-promoting rappers are there now? Thousands, maybe millions.

    The moral values were identical to those of white Christians.
     
    Black Christianity has been heavily infiltrated by leftism, to the point that many (most?) black churches are little more than "social justice" fronts with a thin veneer of gospel ("liberation theology" [i.e., liberation from theology, as it is sometimes unblushingly described in the Latino churches]). Obama's pastor Jeremiah Wright wasn't some weird aberration. That's what black churches are like now.

    White Christianity has been heavily infiltrated by leftism too, but whereas black (and to a lesser extent Latino) modern pseudo-Christianity inculcates resentment against whites, white modern pseudo-Christianity inculcates a false sense of guilt and other weird, self-destructive doctrines: climate changeism, etc.

    In other words, it's worst case scenarios all the way around.

    ------

    *And for good measure, Sister Rosetta's recordings were burned up in the 2008 Universal fire, so now it is even less likely anyone will stumble upon her accidentally.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @PaceLaw

    Well stated Almost Missouri. Black culture is absolutely suffused with thuggish and violent hip-hop music, while gospel music is not even really recognized, and if it is, it is only for a few minutes on Sundays.

    I also agree with your point about how black churches have been infiltrated with radical leftism. It damn near goes without saying that the overwhelming majority of black churches are not much more than outposts for the Democratic Party. What you did not mention is the popularity of the “prosperity gospel“ in black churches where that idea is that if you give a little more, or do a little more now for the church, then you will be rewarded in this life financially. So, in terms of actually believing in and living out the terms of the Gospel and the Bible, the results are quite negligible.

    Given the high rates in which many blacks attend church services, you would think their communities would be the most upright and principled, when the reality is exactly the opposite.

  127. @74v56ruthiyj
    @For what it's worth

    A large number of Black preachers were/are in it for the money and the cooze, MLK, Jesse Jackson, and Ralph Abernathy among them. The tail-chasing, tithe-stealing preacher is a staple of Black folklore. Sometimes it's a father-to-son-to-grandson thing. The congregation knows, but accepts it as normal.

    Replies: @Barnard, @magilla, @Gary in Gramercy, @Reg Cæsar

    The tail-chasing, tithe-stealing preacher is a staple of Black folklore.

  128. @74v56ruthiyj
    @For what it's worth

    A large number of Black preachers were/are in it for the money and the cooze, MLK, Jesse Jackson, and Ralph Abernathy among them. The tail-chasing, tithe-stealing preacher is a staple of Black folklore. Sometimes it's a father-to-son-to-grandson thing. The congregation knows, but accepts it as normal.

    Replies: @Barnard, @magilla, @Gary in Gramercy, @Reg Cæsar

  129. @Thomm
    @Reg Cæsar


    You seriously want us to vote for a Gavin Newsom over a Larry Elder? That’s taking race to an insane level.
     
    er.... these are already males who say that having sex with a pretty mulatto woman like a 1995 Halle Berry is worse than having sex with a white man. Their rationale is that race loyalty has to trump sexual orientation, and producing no baby is better than producing a mulatto baby.

    This question has been posed to many of the most strident WN types over here, and not one would say that having sex with a pretty mulatto woman is preferable to having sex with a white man.

    Commenter Truth can vouch for having witnessed this many times.

    So voting for Newsom over Elder is nowhere near the lengths they are willing to go.


    This comment should not be moderated, as it is very on-topic to the question posed.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Boomthorkell, @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna, @Truth

    Holy fuck, he’s still on about it.

    This is the hill Thomm will die on. Hilarious.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Boomthorkell


    Holy 👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨, he’s still on about it.

    This is the hill Thomm will die on. Hilarious.
     
    Boomthorkell = Broke Thom! LOL!
    , @Thomm
    @Boomthorkell

    It is hardly a hill. Your attempt to smoke-and-mirrors into normalcy what the 97% of men who are heterosexual will find extremely revolting, will not work.

    Go to any website of normal people, such as a typical GOP/Trump blog (or even a mainstream Democrat blog), and show them this, and ALL (and I do mean ALL) of the people there will say that it is amazing that those WNs are unable to give the normal, heterosexual answer that a normal man would give. I mean, to prefer a white man over a 1995 Halle Berry.... come on. That is far beyond anything you can package as anything other than homosexuality. Remember that far-left and 'far-right' have a lot in common (including homosexuality and socialism) since politics is a circle.

    I mean, to actually claim that this is normal is to be so out of touch with the 97% of white men who would emphatically prefer a Halle Berry over a white man as a sexual partner, is truly a new level of disconnection from the mainstream. Both Audacious Epigone and Anatoly Karlin left in part because they realized that too much of their commentariat was gay, and they didn't want to spend their lives catering to this audience.

    Keep trying to claim that it is worse for you, as a white man, to have sex with Halle Berry than with another white man. See where that gets you in terms of mainstream acceptance.

    Replies: @danand, @Boomthorkell

  130. @Reg Cæsar
    @Thomm


    ...not one would say that having sex with a pretty mulatto woman is preferable to having sex with a white man.
     
    I found that young Somali and other East African women still possess that intense feminine élan once common and so fetching among European girls, and that I missed so much after returning to America. They were fun to observe from afar, but there was no temptation to "hook up". I'd no more "do it" with an Afghan than an Afghan hound.

    Why not? Because I had long since grown up from a desire for "having sex" to one for having children. That closed off any thought of them as potential mates, for racial and religious reasons. That's not what I want my kids to be. I told myself I might marry a half-Asian woman, but not a full-Asian one. Indeed, I was wary of white women of a single stock, say, Irish. (The children I finally did sired have ten known Western European ethnicities.)

    So you mock others' immaturity while displaying your own.


    https://static.dezeen.com/uploads/2019/10/archetype-lighting-collection-workstead-glass-house_dezeen_hero-a-1704x959.jpg

    Replies: @Boomthorkell, @Truth

    Thomm just wants to signal he’s “better”, for some ludicrous reason. It’s odd because any group he’s signaling to despises Trump (Supply and Demand, for example, wishes universal death and suffering upon anyone in the old country), whom he allegedly likes? It’s just silly really.

    It’s doubly odd he appeals to Truth, who being associated with is about as damning as being associated with Corvinus on the spiritual plane. Defenders and honorers of child rapists! Wild.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Boomthorkell

    I believe Supply and Demand has given up on persuading the Men of UNZ we are all illiterate White trash losers watching Kardashian TV in our broken down trailers. I wonder if he really married the Crown Princess of Manchuria. Or is a lowly ESL teacher living in a barracks provided by the local secondary school for foreign teachers.

  131. @Arclight
    @PaceLaw

    Your last paragraph gets at the problem - blacks will tolerate much higher levels of disorder in their neighborhoods than just about anyone else. Having lived in a nearly all black neighborhood, even when they are disapprove of what neighbors are doing, they do not get involved or interfere in any way. The reluctance to apply social pressure lets the worst elements in the neighborhood exert a disproportionate influence over quality of life, when it should be the other way around.

    Replies: @Recently Based

    Why do you think that is?

    • Replies: @Arclight
    @Recently Based

    In some part it's because respectability politics/culture went out the window 50 years ago. Since then it's been nothing but being loudly 'authentically' black and total group solidarity, so the worst tendencies cannot be criticized because they are the antithesis of white and therefore kind of good. In majority black neighborhoods there is also a low level of social trust and fear of violent retribution as well.

  132. @Boomthorkell
    @Thomm

    Holy fuck, he's still on about it.

    This is the hill Thomm will die on. Hilarious.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Thomm

    Holy 👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨, he’s still on about it.

    This is the hill Thomm will die on. Hilarious.

    Boomthorkell = Broke Thom! LOL!

  133. @lavoisier
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    Why do you care, outside of helping whites. We have no responsibility to these people or any other people besides our own.
     
    You have to care because they live here and are such a major problem for everyone.

    I think getting the state out of subsidizing illegitimate childbirth would be a good start, as would a legal system that allowed whites to defend themselves against black predation.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Sorry, but that ship has sailed.

    You still think that whites can work within the system, that the system can be fixed. We can’t, at least not on a national level and, but by bit due to immigration, not on the state level over time.

    As far fetched as it sounds, whites quietly building their own communities is more realistic than what you suggesting.

    • Replies: @Veteran Aryan
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    As far fetched as it sounds, whites quietly building their own communities is more realistic than what you suggesting.
     
    I'm not so sure that "quietly" is an accurate description of something that you're blabbing about on the internet.
  134. @74v56ruthiyj
    @For what it's worth

    A large number of Black preachers were/are in it for the money and the cooze, MLK, Jesse Jackson, and Ralph Abernathy among them. The tail-chasing, tithe-stealing preacher is a staple of Black folklore. Sometimes it's a father-to-son-to-grandson thing. The congregation knows, but accepts it as normal.

    Replies: @Barnard, @magilla, @Gary in Gramercy, @Reg Cæsar

    PJ O’Rourke once said about the evangelical billboards all over Little Rock that the place must have a lot of sin to need that much salvation.

  135. @Reg Cæsar
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    Seriously, how long are you going to hold on to this ridiculous Citizenism farce?

     

    "Citizenism" is white supremacism. It's just a more palatable flavor, easier to sell.

    It's why Cosby and OJ are were in prison, and George Zimmerman is not.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country

    If Citizenism is such an easy sell, why are whites in far worse shape now than when Steve introduced the concept 10 or 15 years ago.

    Colorblind civic nationalism has been an abject failure for 50 years. Since whites adopted it, the country has gone from 85% white to where our kids are a minority. The commanding heights of society openly hate whites. The institutions and values that CivNats hold so dear are despised.

    Why would any white continue with this strategy? Time to move on.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    Colorblind civic nationalism has been an abject failure for 50 years.
     
    Except we haven't had "colorblind civic nationalism" since the 1960's. The moment "affirmative action" was instituted by leftists, "colorblind civic nationalism" was discarded.

    The commanding heights of society openly hate whites.
     
    You think Nancy Pelosi hates whites? You think she's living in a black area and eschewing a white neighborhood? You buy the rhetoric on TV and don't seem to realize that we are, in reality, in the midst of a white people civil war, in which the GoodWhites are beating the BadWhites over the head with their black auxiliaries. Don't fixate on the bat and miss the opponent actually wielding that bat.

    The institutions and values that CivNats hold so dear are despised.
     
    The U.S. armed forces are an institution that is probably the most civic nationalist in orientation among all the major institutions in the country (complete with IQ tests and occupational specialties based on them) and they command a great deal of respect among the masses, far greater than that garnered by all the color-aware institutions.

    Going "Al Sharpton" has been a disaster for the downscale and ordinary blacks. What makes you think such an orientation will help downscale and ordinary whites? Black militancy turned out to benefit only a tiny sliver of the (elite) black population. Do you think white militancy will be any different?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @John Johnson, @Loyalty Over IQ Worship, @Alden

  136. @IHTG
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Right now, something approximating "citizenism" has successfully kept Texas from flipping over to the bad guys in the face of massive demographic change. What has your side achieved?

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Low voter turnout by Hispanics has kept Texas red and reasonably conservative.

    That won’t last. A state that 60-70% Hispanic won’t remain conservative. It’ll Mexico of the North. A few nice parts, not too bad if you’re wealthy, but overall pretty crappy and corrupt.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    Low voter turnout by Hispanics has kept Texas red and reasonably conservative.

    That won’t last. A state that 60-70% Hispanic won’t remain conservative.
     
    I have thought so for a good while. Yet, heavily Hispanic southern Texas seems to be turning Republican of late. I don't know how sustainable that will be, but it is an interesting and encouraging development.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/texas-district-roughly-75-hispanic-turns-red-for-gop

    On Tuesday night, in what might be a harbinger of things to come, the GOP turned a state House district that is roughly 75% Hispanic from blue to red, as GOP House candidate John Lujan won the seat in Texas’ 118th House of Representatives district.
     
    Both David Shor and Audacious Epigone have pointed out that the white liberals in charge of the current agenda of the Democratic Party are considerably more liberal in ideology than the blacks and Hispanics in the party. The surveys and polls on that disparity are pretty clear and consistent. So, as the Democratic Party turns more and more radical in ideology, there is bound to be more defections from these non-white groups, especially the Hispanics who do not have the oppositional culture blacks do.

    Replies: @JR Ewing

  137. @kaganovitch
    @Twinkie

    Milius' finest.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    It’s a very underappreciate and underrated film. Probably was Milius’s finest work until Rome.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Twinkie

    Rome was a series though, so not really comparable. As films go I think FTTK is his finest.

    Replies: @RobinG

    , @Brutusale
    @Twinkie

    Rome is the only cable series that I actually bought the DVDs for. Just a great series that ended too soon.

  138. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Wade Hampton

    I agree that "Establishment" promotes the worst in blacks; also, even without that, blacks would have been hardly bearable.

    But it shows that there is no grand conspiracy behind it all. There is no profit for oligarchs, nor some elites, nor anyone with enough power to pull strings.

    This is the level of suicidal behavior not comparable with that of those promoting & profiting from slavery. After all, they treated blacks as cattle & never thought that some time in the future their progeny would have to live with those, in their view, beasts of burden.

    No, it all looks to me like a typical societal degeneracy of a society in which central ideas have run its course & doesn't know what to do next, and is afraid to move on. Similar to ruling classes before French & Russian revolutions.

    But, there is one fundamental difference.

    Those upheavals, whatever we may think of them, had a healthy & strong idea propelling them: class & religious & .. differences should not be impediment, and men should be given equal chance. Of course- that part was correct, because the suppressed populations of their own peoples had shown to be capable of great achievements & progress.

    But here, we are dealing with something entirely different. We should go away from essentially Christian idea that men are equal (all nuances aside) & to state explicitly that groups of human collectives are fundamentally & unalterably unequal; that this inequality is a biological-cultural combination which cannot be remedied; and that a society, if it wants to survive, should act in such a manner that it promotes the best.

    In other words- meritocracy in such conditions means apartheid.

    And that would mean not only world-view revolution in the US, but in the whole world, which goes against all global ideas about human beings.

    Replies: @David Davenport

    We should go away from essentially Christian idea that men are equal …

    Show me a passage in the Bible in which J.C. says that.

    In other words- meritocracy in such conditions means apartheid.

    Not necessarily. Without “affirmative action” and coercive civil rights laws, meritocracy might be achieved.

  139. @Boomthorkell
    @Thomm

    Holy fuck, he's still on about it.

    This is the hill Thomm will die on. Hilarious.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Thomm

    It is hardly a hill. Your attempt to smoke-and-mirrors into normalcy what the 97% of men who are heterosexual will find extremely revolting, will not work.

    Go to any website of normal people, such as a typical GOP/Trump blog (or even a mainstream Democrat blog), and show them this, and ALL (and I do mean ALL) of the people there will say that it is amazing that those WNs are unable to give the normal, heterosexual answer that a normal man would give. I mean, to prefer a white man over a 1995 Halle Berry…. come on. That is far beyond anything you can package as anything other than homosexuality. Remember that far-left and ‘far-right’ have a lot in common (including homosexuality and socialism) since politics is a circle.

    I mean, to actually claim that this is normal is to be so out of touch with the 97% of white men who would emphatically prefer a Halle Berry over a white man as a sexual partner, is truly a new level of disconnection from the mainstream. Both Audacious Epigone and Anatoly Karlin left in part because they realized that too much of their commentariat was gay, and they didn’t want to spend their lives catering to this audience.

    Keep trying to claim that it is worse for you, as a white man, to have sex with Halle Berry than with another white man. See where that gets you in terms of mainstream acceptance.

    • Replies: @danand
    @Thomm

    "...97% of white men who would emphatically prefer a Halle Berry..."

    Thomm, what...only 97%?

    https://flic.kr/p/2mMWkfi

    Halle with her mother

    "Halle Berry reveals how she watched her mother get kicked down the stairs in an emotional speech against domestic abuse. She said she watched her father beat her mother 'day after day after day'."

    , @Boomthorkell
    @Thomm

    Nah.

    I think the issue is that you take a a childish "argument and response" and try to make it a founding philosophy of sexuality and politics.

    I tell you what. Find a way to solve Drag Queen Story Hour and the fact a large segment of America's functional, non-WN and "not openly" far left (David French comes to mind, but just think of the average American really) finds it tolerable and okay, and you might be hitting on a real socio-political gold mine.

    I never made any such claim, Thomm. I won't give a yea or nea response though, because I would rather tell you to ****-off and die than play a game with a 14-year old when I'm not being paid to (or rather, I'm paid to be above the "mind-games" of children.) That aside, I think they both left because they ultimately had better things to do. Anatoly Karlin has a nationalist Russia, a proper one, and Audacious Epigone just got plain tired.

    Anyhow, good luck dealing with the fact most of our countrymen tolerate, if not outright praise, evil, while you keep blaming the whole god-damn moral rot on some internet stock-phrases like "I would rather XX than YY."

    Fuck, man.

    Replies: @Thomm

  140. @Twinkie
    @kaganovitch

    It's a very underappreciate and underrated film. Probably was Milius's finest work until Rome.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Brutusale

    Rome was a series though, so not really comparable. As films go I think FTTK is his finest.

    • Agree: Twinkie
    • Replies: @RobinG
    @kaganovitch

    It's from L'Adieu au Roi, the novel by Pierre Schoendoerffer who said,


    "I was wanting to make a great symphonic book on life and death: on how a man can struggle until the very end, without hope and without reason, just to be alive, even though half dead., even though suffering terribly, because life is so powerful. But on the other hand I was wanting to show that if suddenly a man discovers that he is not fulfilling his dream, then he does not want to live anymore."

     

    And there it is.
  141. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @IHTG

    Low voter turnout by Hispanics has kept Texas red and reasonably conservative.

    That won't last. A state that 60-70% Hispanic won't remain conservative. It'll Mexico of the North. A few nice parts, not too bad if you're wealthy, but overall pretty crappy and corrupt.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Low voter turnout by Hispanics has kept Texas red and reasonably conservative.

    That won’t last. A state that 60-70% Hispanic won’t remain conservative.

    I have thought so for a good while. Yet, heavily Hispanic southern Texas seems to be turning Republican of late. I don’t know how sustainable that will be, but it is an interesting and encouraging development.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/texas-district-roughly-75-hispanic-turns-red-for-gop

    On Tuesday night, in what might be a harbinger of things to come, the GOP turned a state House district that is roughly 75% Hispanic from blue to red, as GOP House candidate John Lujan won the seat in Texas’ 118th House of Representatives district.

    Both David Shor and Audacious Epigone have pointed out that the white liberals in charge of the current agenda of the Democratic Party are considerably more liberal in ideology than the blacks and Hispanics in the party. The surveys and polls on that disparity are pretty clear and consistent. So, as the Democratic Party turns more and more radical in ideology, there is bound to be more defections from these non-white groups, especially the Hispanics who do not have the oppositional culture blacks do.

    • Agree: Captain Tripps
    • Replies: @JR Ewing
    @Twinkie

    Anyone with any familiarity at all with Mexicans in Texas, especially in the RGV, isn't surprised at all by this development.

    Except for the extremely poor (and illegal) ones, most Mexicans in Texas see themselves as middle class and conservative, especially the more affluent they become. About the only difference between them and "rednecks" is the surname and the color of the hair. They share much of the same culture: pickup trucks, cowboy hats, blue-collar jobs, and sports.

    There is also a lot of intermarriage and it gets none of the curiosity that white-black marriages get. But then again, most Mexicans in the USA are descendants of mestizos and mestizos are mostly white to begin with.

    Mexicans only vote for democrats because they want freebies, but now they seem to have had enough of the grievance politics and gays and xenophilia, themselves.

    As the cliche goes, "The democrat party left them".

    Replies: @prosa123, @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

  142. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Reg Cæsar

    If Citizenism is such an easy sell, why are whites in far worse shape now than when Steve introduced the concept 10 or 15 years ago.

    Colorblind civic nationalism has been an abject failure for 50 years. Since whites adopted it, the country has gone from 85% white to where our kids are a minority. The commanding heights of society openly hate whites. The institutions and values that CivNats hold so dear are despised.

    Why would any white continue with this strategy? Time to move on.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Colorblind civic nationalism has been an abject failure for 50 years.

    Except we haven’t had “colorblind civic nationalism” since the 1960’s. The moment “affirmative action” was instituted by leftists, “colorblind civic nationalism” was discarded.

    The commanding heights of society openly hate whites.

    You think Nancy Pelosi hates whites? You think she’s living in a black area and eschewing a white neighborhood? You buy the rhetoric on TV and don’t seem to realize that we are, in reality, in the midst of a white people civil war, in which the GoodWhites are beating the BadWhites over the head with their black auxiliaries. Don’t fixate on the bat and miss the opponent actually wielding that bat.

    The institutions and values that CivNats hold so dear are despised.

    The U.S. armed forces are an institution that is probably the most civic nationalist in orientation among all the major institutions in the country (complete with IQ tests and occupational specialties based on them) and they command a great deal of respect among the masses, far greater than that garnered by all the color-aware institutions.

    Going “Al Sharpton” has been a disaster for the downscale and ordinary blacks. What makes you think such an orientation will help downscale and ordinary whites? Black militancy turned out to benefit only a tiny sliver of the (elite) black population. Do you think white militancy will be any different?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Twinkie


    Black militancy turned out to benefit only a tiny sliver of the (elite) black population.
     
    And the NOI. Steve once pointed out that hate can be useful to straighten out young people's lives. However, it has to be contained within the law.
    , @John Johnson
    @Twinkie

    You think Nancy Pelosi hates whites? You think she’s living in a black area and eschewing a white neighborhood? You buy the rhetoric on TV and don’t seem to realize that we are, in reality, in the midst of a white people civil war, in which the GoodWhites are beating the BadWhites over the head with their black auxiliaries. Don’t fixate on the bat and miss the opponent actually wielding that bat.


    Most liberals view a majority of Whites to be the enemy. Yes they hate them.

    They either believe that:
    1. Race exists and the majority of Whites cannot be trusted with this reality as that would doom liberalism and the great lie. (Racial realist liberal)
    2. Race does not exist and the majority of Whites held back non-Whites through racism. (True Believer liberal)

    In both cases the goal is the same which is to turn Whites into a submissive minority with only a small elite circle of GoodWhites in charge.

    Pelosi views herself as part of the elite and most Whites as the enemy. It doesn't matter that she lives in a 98% White neighborhood. That is true for most liberal politicians.

    Don't kid yourself, she would send every person here to a camp if she could.

    , @Loyalty Over IQ Worship
    @Twinkie


    You think Nancy Pelosi hates whites? You think she’s living in a black area and eschewing a white neighborhood?
     
    You cannot be serious. Every anti-White who acts against the interests of his people, who betrays them, seeks to live well themselves. This is like saying, "You think the Politburo is really pro-communist? Look how they pursue the good life away from the workers".

    Except we haven’t had “colorblind civic nationalism” since the 1960’s.
     
    We didn't have it before then either. There are no countries in history that have ever practiced it in reality, or ever will.
    , @Alden
    @Twinkie

    Early 60s and mid 1950s were a time of racial turmoil and Jew led black uprisings. Eisenhower sending in the army to send black savages to torture and terrorize Whites In 1956. MLK and the Birmingham bus boycott . Emmett Till
    Parents subscribed afternoon newspaper. Brought it in when I came home from school. Looked at the comics. Could barely read. But remember the headlines screeching about save the blacks from the evil southerners. MLK and wife’s faces in Newsweek New Republic Atlantic in all the magazines parents subscribed to.

    Freedom Riders those 3 Detroit Jews killed by KKK in the south. Even a child who could barely read the newspaper and magazines in my parents home couldn’t miss the civil rights agitation.

  143. @Thomm
    @Reg Cæsar


    You seriously want us to vote for a Gavin Newsom over a Larry Elder? That’s taking race to an insane level.
     
    er.... these are already males who say that having sex with a pretty mulatto woman like a 1995 Halle Berry is worse than having sex with a white man. Their rationale is that race loyalty has to trump sexual orientation, and producing no baby is better than producing a mulatto baby.

    This question has been posed to many of the most strident WN types over here, and not one would say that having sex with a pretty mulatto woman is preferable to having sex with a white man.

    Commenter Truth can vouch for having witnessed this many times.

    So voting for Newsom over Elder is nowhere near the lengths they are willing to go.


    This comment should not be moderated, as it is very on-topic to the question posed.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Boomthorkell, @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna, @Truth

    “these are already males who say that”

    Do tell

  144. @Muggles
    @Joe Stalin

    Re: "Trench brooms" used by Prohibition gangsters.

    Yes, their magazines held a lot of rounds and could fire quickly.

    I once went w/ friends to a range and we rented a Thompson machine gun (stick mag model).

    It fires .45 bullets. Loud, slow and heavy.

    What I discovered was that it was hard to hit anything with that due to the extreme kicking and bucking. A .45 auto pistol packs a kick. The Thompson rides up hard and is very hard to aim with a long burst. A couple of shots okay, but more than three and control goes away.

    A shotgun would be far more lethal in a crowd. Fortunately very few criminals use those.

    I have never heard of gangsters using them. They are loud (like all firearms) and hard to conceal.

    Other than the rural blacks (Blacks!) few black people seem to hunt game or birds in particular. .

    Of course you can't hold a shotgun sideways and shoot it to Look Cool.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @John Johnson

    What I discovered was that it was hard to hit anything with that due to the extreme kicking and bucking. A .45 auto pistol packs a kick. The Thompson rides up hard and is very hard to aim with a long burst. A couple of shots okay, but more than three and control goes away.

    A shotgun would be far more lethal in a crowd. Fortunately very few criminals use those.

    The tommy guns were often used by criminals to get away or use as covering fire. There are plenty of cases where they killed police or Federal agents with them which is why they were de facto banned.

    I have never heard of gangsters using them. They are loud (like all firearms) and hard to conceal.

    They will use shotguns defensively inside homes. For example if they are dealing inside a home they will stick a gangster in another room with a shotgun. If something goes wrong he will come out and shuck it.

    The media reports stories where negroes kill multiple people which are mostly attacks where they brought a weapon. One or two people being killed inside a home over a drug deal is just background noise to the media.

  145. @Twinkie
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    Colorblind civic nationalism has been an abject failure for 50 years.
     
    Except we haven't had "colorblind civic nationalism" since the 1960's. The moment "affirmative action" was instituted by leftists, "colorblind civic nationalism" was discarded.

    The commanding heights of society openly hate whites.
     
    You think Nancy Pelosi hates whites? You think she's living in a black area and eschewing a white neighborhood? You buy the rhetoric on TV and don't seem to realize that we are, in reality, in the midst of a white people civil war, in which the GoodWhites are beating the BadWhites over the head with their black auxiliaries. Don't fixate on the bat and miss the opponent actually wielding that bat.

    The institutions and values that CivNats hold so dear are despised.
     
    The U.S. armed forces are an institution that is probably the most civic nationalist in orientation among all the major institutions in the country (complete with IQ tests and occupational specialties based on them) and they command a great deal of respect among the masses, far greater than that garnered by all the color-aware institutions.

    Going "Al Sharpton" has been a disaster for the downscale and ordinary blacks. What makes you think such an orientation will help downscale and ordinary whites? Black militancy turned out to benefit only a tiny sliver of the (elite) black population. Do you think white militancy will be any different?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @John Johnson, @Loyalty Over IQ Worship, @Alden

    Black militancy turned out to benefit only a tiny sliver of the (elite) black population.

    And the NOI. Steve once pointed out that hate can be useful to straighten out young people’s lives. However, it has to be contained within the law.

  146. @SFG
    @lavoisier

    Jesus.

    Replies: @Mike_from_SGV, @Reg Cæsar

    Jesus.

    Was that meant in exasperation, or evangelization?

  147. @Twinkie
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    Low voter turnout by Hispanics has kept Texas red and reasonably conservative.

    That won’t last. A state that 60-70% Hispanic won’t remain conservative.
     
    I have thought so for a good while. Yet, heavily Hispanic southern Texas seems to be turning Republican of late. I don't know how sustainable that will be, but it is an interesting and encouraging development.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/texas-district-roughly-75-hispanic-turns-red-for-gop

    On Tuesday night, in what might be a harbinger of things to come, the GOP turned a state House district that is roughly 75% Hispanic from blue to red, as GOP House candidate John Lujan won the seat in Texas’ 118th House of Representatives district.
     
    Both David Shor and Audacious Epigone have pointed out that the white liberals in charge of the current agenda of the Democratic Party are considerably more liberal in ideology than the blacks and Hispanics in the party. The surveys and polls on that disparity are pretty clear and consistent. So, as the Democratic Party turns more and more radical in ideology, there is bound to be more defections from these non-white groups, especially the Hispanics who do not have the oppositional culture blacks do.

    Replies: @JR Ewing

    Anyone with any familiarity at all with Mexicans in Texas, especially in the RGV, isn’t surprised at all by this development.

    Except for the extremely poor (and illegal) ones, most Mexicans in Texas see themselves as middle class and conservative, especially the more affluent they become. About the only difference between them and “rednecks” is the surname and the color of the hair. They share much of the same culture: pickup trucks, cowboy hats, blue-collar jobs, and sports.

    There is also a lot of intermarriage and it gets none of the curiosity that white-black marriages get. But then again, most Mexicans in the USA are descendants of mestizos and mestizos are mostly white to begin with.

    Mexicans only vote for democrats because they want freebies, but now they seem to have had enough of the grievance politics and gays and xenophilia, themselves.

    As the cliche goes, “The democrat party left them“.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @JR Ewing

    There is also a lot of [white-Mexican] intermarriage [in Texas] and it gets none of the curiosity that white-black marriages get.

    Is there a huge gender skew with these intermarriages as there is with white-black intermarriages?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Loyalty Over IQ Worship
    @JR Ewing


    Except for the extremely poor (and illegal) ones, most Mexicans in Texas see themselves as middle class and conservative, especially the more affluent they become.

     

    That's not true. But the ones who tend to vote with the White majority are well, pretty White themselves. The poor ones tend to be, you know, really Brown.

    About the only difference between them and “rednecks” is the surname and the color of the hair. They share much of the same culture: pickup trucks, cowboy hats, blue-collar jobs, and sports.
     
    Really? Rednecks conquered Texas from the Comanches. Mexicans always got their ass kicked by the Comanches and were unable to settle the state. If it had been left to Mexicans, Texas would still be under the control of the Comanche Nation. Men who died at the Alamo, those who won the battles over generations, are not the same as some other race who also happens to like trucks. Yours is a terribly superficial analysis.

    Gee, they both like enchiladas too, so totally the same, right?

  148. @AndrewR
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    The way forward is a blend of civic nationalism and ethnic nationalism. Unapologetic pro-whiteness (including severe immigration restrictionism) combined with tolerance for ethnic minorities who aren't hostile to whites, and intolerance of self-hating whites.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    See, the difference of opinion between you and Citizen is further proof that the definition of “pro white” is subjective in nature.

  149. @For what it's worth
    At one time, the best element in African-American culture (gospel music) was expressly anti-alcohol, anti-smoking, anti-gambling, anti-dancing, anti-violence, anti-promiscuity, anti-laziness, etc. The moral values were identical to those of white Christians. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOrhjgt-_Qc

    Replies: @PaceLaw, @74v56ruthiyj, @Almost Missouri, @AndrewR, @Ganderson, @John Johnson

    At one time, the best element in African-American culture (gospel music) was expressly anti-alcohol, anti-smoking, anti-gambling, anti-dancing, anti-violence, anti-promiscuity, anti-laziness, etc. The moral values were identical to those of white Christians.

    Doesn’t matter what the songs are about if they aren’t followed.

    Booze on Saturday and church on Sunday. Christian missionaries wrote about how Africans had this problem. They would “forget” all about their newly found morals during the week.

    There is a lot of conservative wishful thinking when it comes to Christianity as a solution. I wish that were the case but Blacks on paper are already more Christian than Whites.

    But with that said there certainly is a problem with Black subculture. It’s unbelievable that Democrats spend so much time obsessing over guns while looking the other way on music that celebrates killing and pimping. Republicans however are afraid of talking about it as well and instead stick to their base.

    • Replies: @Rob
    @John Johnson

    Clinton’s chiding of Sister Souljah and Tipper Gore’s parental advisory stickers were the high points of Democrats, or anyone, really, trying to influence music. Bill Clinton got a lot of mileage from disavowing the Sister, but I don’t think she was a big influence on anyone. He did not do it to try to fix black culture, but to convince unaligned whites that blacks didn’t own him. Plus, I think he chided her anti-white/black separatist leanings. Snoop Dogg had much more influence on teenagers.

    Tipper’s advisory warnings were more advertisement than warning anyone away, at least in practice. Are those even mandatory? IIRC, the big labels did them voluntarily. Maybe some very fundie parents did not buy their kids music because of the warning labels, but so what? Serious cultural Christians, the sorts of people who actually keep pre-fifties ideals of morality are a tiny fraction. The Moral Majority is long gone, at least in political influence.

    Plus, teens and “teens” do not care what lame-ass adults think of their music. Let’s say we got a reprieve on the First Amendment. AnotherDad has to approve all rap lyrics, and he does not approve much. Would that have any impact on the hip-hop community? With computerized mixing, editing, distribution, the hoppers would just keep making “music.”

    When sociology starts looking at interesting things again, they might notice the disconnect in middle-class+ white youth culture compared to working-class whites or blacks. In the middle-class+ a huge chunk of eighteen-year-olds leaves town. The ones who don’t? Everyone thinks they are losers, so they do not have a ton of influence on younger kids. That does not apply in the ghetto, where lots of very late teens and early twenty-somethings are around to be (bad) influences on kids. After college, the upper-middle-class kids scatter across the country. The next generation of the pro-man class in your town is largely not the offspring of current pro-man class families there. That leads to some cultures being thin and transactional (pro-man class) and others being thick and organic. That must have huge, but uninvestigated effects.

  150. @JMcG
    @Ganderson

    Just imagine what they’ll be comparing Wet Ass P to in sixty years. It doesn’t bear thinking about.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Mr. McG, if it comes down to that, humans won’t be comparing anything to anything with speech, much less writing. They’ll be screeching around banging the ground with bones, hoping to run into the 2001 black obelisk to speed up their evolution, put there by the White race living underground, with cameras and popcorn…

    …OK, or the Chinese underground, if you want to make more money off the movie treatment of my idea.

  151. @John Johnson
    @For what it's worth

    At one time, the best element in African-American culture (gospel music) was expressly anti-alcohol, anti-smoking, anti-gambling, anti-dancing, anti-violence, anti-promiscuity, anti-laziness, etc. The moral values were identical to those of white Christians.

    Doesn't matter what the songs are about if they aren't followed.

    Booze on Saturday and church on Sunday. Christian missionaries wrote about how Africans had this problem. They would "forget" all about their newly found morals during the week.

    There is a lot of conservative wishful thinking when it comes to Christianity as a solution. I wish that were the case but Blacks on paper are already more Christian than Whites.

    But with that said there certainly is a problem with Black subculture. It's unbelievable that Democrats spend so much time obsessing over guns while looking the other way on music that celebrates killing and pimping. Republicans however are afraid of talking about it as well and instead stick to their base.

    Replies: @Rob

    Clinton’s chiding of Sister Souljah and Tipper Gore’s parental advisory stickers were the high points of Democrats, or anyone, really, trying to influence music. Bill Clinton got a lot of mileage from disavowing the Sister, but I don’t think she was a big influence on anyone. He did not do it to try to fix black culture, but to convince unaligned whites that blacks didn’t own him. Plus, I think he chided her anti-white/black separatist leanings. Snoop Dogg had much more influence on teenagers.

    Tipper’s advisory warnings were more advertisement than warning anyone away, at least in practice. Are those even mandatory? IIRC, the big labels did them voluntarily. Maybe some very fundie parents did not buy their kids music because of the warning labels, but so what? Serious cultural Christians, the sorts of people who actually keep pre-fifties ideals of morality are a tiny fraction. The Moral Majority is long gone, at least in political influence.

    Plus, teens and “teens” do not care what lame-ass adults think of their music. Let’s say we got a reprieve on the First Amendment. AnotherDad has to approve all rap lyrics, and he does not approve much. Would that have any impact on the hip-hop community? With computerized mixing, editing, distribution, the hoppers would just keep making “music.”

    When sociology starts looking at interesting things again, they might notice the disconnect in middle-class+ white youth culture compared to working-class whites or blacks. In the middle-class+ a huge chunk of eighteen-year-olds leaves town. The ones who don’t? Everyone thinks they are losers, so they do not have a ton of influence on younger kids. That does not apply in the ghetto, where lots of very late teens and early twenty-somethings are around to be (bad) influences on kids. After college, the upper-middle-class kids scatter across the country. The next generation of the pro-man class in your town is largely not the offspring of current pro-man class families there. That leads to some cultures being thin and transactional (pro-man class) and others being thick and organic. That must have huge, but uninvestigated effects.

  152. @Twinkie
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    Colorblind civic nationalism has been an abject failure for 50 years.
     
    Except we haven't had "colorblind civic nationalism" since the 1960's. The moment "affirmative action" was instituted by leftists, "colorblind civic nationalism" was discarded.

    The commanding heights of society openly hate whites.
     
    You think Nancy Pelosi hates whites? You think she's living in a black area and eschewing a white neighborhood? You buy the rhetoric on TV and don't seem to realize that we are, in reality, in the midst of a white people civil war, in which the GoodWhites are beating the BadWhites over the head with their black auxiliaries. Don't fixate on the bat and miss the opponent actually wielding that bat.

    The institutions and values that CivNats hold so dear are despised.
     
    The U.S. armed forces are an institution that is probably the most civic nationalist in orientation among all the major institutions in the country (complete with IQ tests and occupational specialties based on them) and they command a great deal of respect among the masses, far greater than that garnered by all the color-aware institutions.

    Going "Al Sharpton" has been a disaster for the downscale and ordinary blacks. What makes you think such an orientation will help downscale and ordinary whites? Black militancy turned out to benefit only a tiny sliver of the (elite) black population. Do you think white militancy will be any different?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @John Johnson, @Loyalty Over IQ Worship, @Alden

    You think Nancy Pelosi hates whites? You think she’s living in a black area and eschewing a white neighborhood? You buy the rhetoric on TV and don’t seem to realize that we are, in reality, in the midst of a white people civil war, in which the GoodWhites are beating the BadWhites over the head with their black auxiliaries. Don’t fixate on the bat and miss the opponent actually wielding that bat.

    Most liberals view a majority of Whites to be the enemy. Yes they hate them.

    They either believe that:
    1. Race exists and the majority of Whites cannot be trusted with this reality as that would doom liberalism and the great lie. (Racial realist liberal)
    2. Race does not exist and the majority of Whites held back non-Whites through racism. (True Believer liberal)

    In both cases the goal is the same which is to turn Whites into a submissive minority with only a small elite circle of GoodWhites in charge.

    Pelosi views herself as part of the elite and most Whites as the enemy. It doesn’t matter that she lives in a 98% White neighborhood. That is true for most liberal politicians.

    Don’t kid yourself, she would send every person here to a camp if she could.

  153. Steve,

    Any guess on the demographics of the former Fedex driver who was throwing the packages into a ravine in order to not half to deliver them. Anytime a postal employee, delivery person, etc gets caught shrinking their work, it seems to not be a middle aged white person.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/583664-police-say-fedex-driver-dropped-packages-into-ravine-multiple-times

  154. @Reg Cæsar
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    Steve's "concentric circles". Do a search.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    The enemies of white people don’t see any “concentric circles”. They see us all is the enemy.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    The enemies of white people don’t see any “concentric circles”. They see us all is the enemy.
     
    I don't care what they "see". I don't care what they do. I care what they can do. This should be reduced to nothing, preferably via incarceration.

    Do you care what the ape at the zoo "sees"? No, you care that his cage is locked. How are street apes any different?

    Are you another one of those SPLC concern trolls?

  155. @Rob
    @PaceLaw

    Wow. I totally understand buying a lottery ticket for the multimillion once-a-week(?) lottery. Even twenty bucks whenever it hits a record. Hope is a valuable thing to have.

    My friend Josh used to buy a weekly lottery ticket.

    Me: Lottery winners are usually broke and in debt in x years.
    Him: Have you seen the other people who buy lottery tickets?
    Me: You do have a point...

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

    Government-run lotteries are sold at the ballot box, to a gullible voting public, with the promise that the proceeds will be used to fund the schools.

    In fact, the referendum results in the creation of a large, inefficient, lottery bureaucracy staffed by politically connected dolts. Net profits are unimpressive, in that expenses eat up the bulk of ticket sales revenues, e.g. commissioners — who don’t even show-up — receive six figure salaries, expense accounts, and lavish pensions.

    Then, in typical political shell game fashion, whatever the amount of money leftover that does flow to the school fund (i.e. trickle-down government), the politicians simply reduce from what would they would have otherwise appropriated to the schools. Keep in mind that lottery ticket purchases are very popular with the poor. School/bureaucrat spending gets laundered as AFDC.

    As if all that’s not bad enough, as we see yet again today, the schools are often physically dangerous places that need to be closed as public health hazards. If we won’t a_p_e, or even just end compulsory attendance, then kids should at least be able to CCW. Their #2 rights don’t suspend just because they’re drafted.

  156. Deadly mass shooting today at a white exurban high school in Michigan.

    • Replies: @Polymath
    @prosa123

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/12/01/us/school-shooting-michigan?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20211201&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=cta&regi_id=53425337&segment_id=75793&user_id=6cff4613d6f0506280169e007092ae28#charges-against-the-suspect-are-pending-and-several-students-remain-hospitalized

    Steve, you need to acknowledge the exception to your law of mass shootings (though if 2 more of the 7 wounded die you will have been correct).

  157. @JR Ewing
    @Twinkie

    Anyone with any familiarity at all with Mexicans in Texas, especially in the RGV, isn't surprised at all by this development.

    Except for the extremely poor (and illegal) ones, most Mexicans in Texas see themselves as middle class and conservative, especially the more affluent they become. About the only difference between them and "rednecks" is the surname and the color of the hair. They share much of the same culture: pickup trucks, cowboy hats, blue-collar jobs, and sports.

    There is also a lot of intermarriage and it gets none of the curiosity that white-black marriages get. But then again, most Mexicans in the USA are descendants of mestizos and mestizos are mostly white to begin with.

    Mexicans only vote for democrats because they want freebies, but now they seem to have had enough of the grievance politics and gays and xenophilia, themselves.

    As the cliche goes, "The democrat party left them".

    Replies: @prosa123, @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    There is also a lot of [white-Mexican] intermarriage [in Texas] and it gets none of the curiosity that white-black marriages get.

    Is there a huge gender skew with these intermarriages as there is with white-black intermarriages?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @prosa123

    Is there a huge gender skew with these intermarriages as there is with white-black intermarriages?

    I'd like to know which part of Texas he is talking about. Even in liberal Austin I didn't see a lot of Whites/Hispanic couples. Maybe he means Houston but most of Texas is White people in the burbs marrying other Whites.

    Texas Whites are definitely more comfortable with Hispanics than Northerners. In a city like Portland you will never see liberal Whites socializing with Hispanics unless you count talking to the waiter at a Mexican restaurant.

    Texas also has a healthier culture than some of the deep south states. White middle class liberals in those states will have social functions where even the catering is White. Then they will have conversations over cocktails about how conservatives are all awful racists.

  158. @Thomm
    @Boomthorkell

    It is hardly a hill. Your attempt to smoke-and-mirrors into normalcy what the 97% of men who are heterosexual will find extremely revolting, will not work.

    Go to any website of normal people, such as a typical GOP/Trump blog (or even a mainstream Democrat blog), and show them this, and ALL (and I do mean ALL) of the people there will say that it is amazing that those WNs are unable to give the normal, heterosexual answer that a normal man would give. I mean, to prefer a white man over a 1995 Halle Berry.... come on. That is far beyond anything you can package as anything other than homosexuality. Remember that far-left and 'far-right' have a lot in common (including homosexuality and socialism) since politics is a circle.

    I mean, to actually claim that this is normal is to be so out of touch with the 97% of white men who would emphatically prefer a Halle Berry over a white man as a sexual partner, is truly a new level of disconnection from the mainstream. Both Audacious Epigone and Anatoly Karlin left in part because they realized that too much of their commentariat was gay, and they didn't want to spend their lives catering to this audience.

    Keep trying to claim that it is worse for you, as a white man, to have sex with Halle Berry than with another white man. See where that gets you in terms of mainstream acceptance.

    Replies: @danand, @Boomthorkell

    “…97% of white men who would emphatically prefer a Halle Berry…”

    Thomm, what…only 97%?

    TheBerrys

    Halle with her mother

    “Halle Berry reveals how she watched her mother get kicked down the stairs in an emotional speech against domestic abuse. She said she watched her father beat her mother ‘day after day after day’.”

  159. @prosa123
    @JR Ewing

    There is also a lot of [white-Mexican] intermarriage [in Texas] and it gets none of the curiosity that white-black marriages get.

    Is there a huge gender skew with these intermarriages as there is with white-black intermarriages?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Is there a huge gender skew with these intermarriages as there is with white-black intermarriages?

    I’d like to know which part of Texas he is talking about. Even in liberal Austin I didn’t see a lot of Whites/Hispanic couples. Maybe he means Houston but most of Texas is White people in the burbs marrying other Whites.

    Texas Whites are definitely more comfortable with Hispanics than Northerners. In a city like Portland you will never see liberal Whites socializing with Hispanics unless you count talking to the waiter at a Mexican restaurant.

    Texas also has a healthier culture than some of the deep south states. White middle class liberals in those states will have social functions where even the catering is White. Then they will have conversations over cocktails about how conservatives are all awful racists.

  160. @kaganovitch
    @Twinkie

    Rome was a series though, so not really comparable. As films go I think FTTK is his finest.

    Replies: @RobinG

    It’s from L’Adieu au Roi, the novel by Pierre Schoendoerffer who said,

    “I was wanting to make a great symphonic book on life and death: on how a man can struggle until the very end, without hope and without reason, just to be alive, even though half dead., even though suffering terribly, because life is so powerful. But on the other hand I was wanting to show that if suddenly a man discovers that he is not fulfilling his dream, then he does not want to live anymore.”

    And there it is.

  161. @Thomm
    @Boomthorkell

    It is hardly a hill. Your attempt to smoke-and-mirrors into normalcy what the 97% of men who are heterosexual will find extremely revolting, will not work.

    Go to any website of normal people, such as a typical GOP/Trump blog (or even a mainstream Democrat blog), and show them this, and ALL (and I do mean ALL) of the people there will say that it is amazing that those WNs are unable to give the normal, heterosexual answer that a normal man would give. I mean, to prefer a white man over a 1995 Halle Berry.... come on. That is far beyond anything you can package as anything other than homosexuality. Remember that far-left and 'far-right' have a lot in common (including homosexuality and socialism) since politics is a circle.

    I mean, to actually claim that this is normal is to be so out of touch with the 97% of white men who would emphatically prefer a Halle Berry over a white man as a sexual partner, is truly a new level of disconnection from the mainstream. Both Audacious Epigone and Anatoly Karlin left in part because they realized that too much of their commentariat was gay, and they didn't want to spend their lives catering to this audience.

    Keep trying to claim that it is worse for you, as a white man, to have sex with Halle Berry than with another white man. See where that gets you in terms of mainstream acceptance.

    Replies: @danand, @Boomthorkell

    Nah.

    I think the issue is that you take a a childish “argument and response” and try to make it a founding philosophy of sexuality and politics.

    I tell you what. Find a way to solve Drag Queen Story Hour and the fact a large segment of America’s functional, non-WN and “not openly” far left (David French comes to mind, but just think of the average American really) finds it tolerable and okay, and you might be hitting on a real socio-political gold mine.

    I never made any such claim, Thomm. I won’t give a yea or nea response though, because I would rather tell you to ****-off and die than play a game with a 14-year old when I’m not being paid to (or rather, I’m paid to be above the “mind-games” of children.) That aside, I think they both left because they ultimately had better things to do. Anatoly Karlin has a nationalist Russia, a proper one, and Audacious Epigone just got plain tired.

    Anyhow, good luck dealing with the fact most of our countrymen tolerate, if not outright praise, evil, while you keep blaming the whole god-damn moral rot on some internet stock-phrases like “I would rather XX than YY.”

    Fuck, man.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    @Boomthorkell

    Tell you what....

    Write a cogent, articulate explanation about why you think that males with WN beliefs say it is worse to have sex with the prettiest mulatta/quatroon woman (a 1995 Halle Berry or whoever qualifies as the prettiest) than to have sex with a white man.

    Write the full reasoning, and I will give it a fair hearing. I will also refer people to it whenever they are baffled as to why WNs exhibit this homosexual preference.

    I have never included you on that Hall of Shame list that about 12 other regulars here are on (yet), because you at least try to provide explanations. But I point out again that no heterosexual man, white or otherwise, will ever have ANY hesitation in saying that between the two choices, the woman is infinitely preferable, especially a very pretty woman (again, Halle Berry or equivalent). The fact that she is 25-50% black does not disqualify her from womanhood.

    So write up your rationale. I will give it a fair hearing.


    “I would rather XX than YY.”
     
    You got the chromosomes wrong. What you meant to say is that 'You would rather (do) XY than XX'.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell

  162. @Twinkie
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    Colorblind civic nationalism has been an abject failure for 50 years.
     
    Except we haven't had "colorblind civic nationalism" since the 1960's. The moment "affirmative action" was instituted by leftists, "colorblind civic nationalism" was discarded.

    The commanding heights of society openly hate whites.
     
    You think Nancy Pelosi hates whites? You think she's living in a black area and eschewing a white neighborhood? You buy the rhetoric on TV and don't seem to realize that we are, in reality, in the midst of a white people civil war, in which the GoodWhites are beating the BadWhites over the head with their black auxiliaries. Don't fixate on the bat and miss the opponent actually wielding that bat.

    The institutions and values that CivNats hold so dear are despised.
     
    The U.S. armed forces are an institution that is probably the most civic nationalist in orientation among all the major institutions in the country (complete with IQ tests and occupational specialties based on them) and they command a great deal of respect among the masses, far greater than that garnered by all the color-aware institutions.

    Going "Al Sharpton" has been a disaster for the downscale and ordinary blacks. What makes you think such an orientation will help downscale and ordinary whites? Black militancy turned out to benefit only a tiny sliver of the (elite) black population. Do you think white militancy will be any different?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @John Johnson, @Loyalty Over IQ Worship, @Alden

    You think Nancy Pelosi hates whites? You think she’s living in a black area and eschewing a white neighborhood?

    You cannot be serious. Every anti-White who acts against the interests of his people, who betrays them, seeks to live well themselves. This is like saying, “You think the Politburo is really pro-communist? Look how they pursue the good life away from the workers”.

    Except we haven’t had “colorblind civic nationalism” since the 1960’s.

    We didn’t have it before then either. There are no countries in history that have ever practiced it in reality, or ever will.

  163. @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    The enemies of white people don’t see any “concentric circles”. They see us all is the enemy.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The enemies of white people don’t see any “concentric circles”. They see us all is the enemy.

    I don’t care what they “see”. I don’t care what they do. I care what they can do. This should be reduced to nothing, preferably via incarceration.

    Do you care what the ape at the zoo “sees”? No, you care that his cage is locked. How are street apes any different?

    Are you another one of those SPLC concern trolls?

  164. @JR Ewing
    @Twinkie

    Anyone with any familiarity at all with Mexicans in Texas, especially in the RGV, isn't surprised at all by this development.

    Except for the extremely poor (and illegal) ones, most Mexicans in Texas see themselves as middle class and conservative, especially the more affluent they become. About the only difference between them and "rednecks" is the surname and the color of the hair. They share much of the same culture: pickup trucks, cowboy hats, blue-collar jobs, and sports.

    There is also a lot of intermarriage and it gets none of the curiosity that white-black marriages get. But then again, most Mexicans in the USA are descendants of mestizos and mestizos are mostly white to begin with.

    Mexicans only vote for democrats because they want freebies, but now they seem to have had enough of the grievance politics and gays and xenophilia, themselves.

    As the cliche goes, "The democrat party left them".

    Replies: @prosa123, @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    Except for the extremely poor (and illegal) ones, most Mexicans in Texas see themselves as middle class and conservative, especially the more affluent they become.

    That’s not true. But the ones who tend to vote with the White majority are well, pretty White themselves. The poor ones tend to be, you know, really Brown.

    About the only difference between them and “rednecks” is the surname and the color of the hair. They share much of the same culture: pickup trucks, cowboy hats, blue-collar jobs, and sports.

    Really? Rednecks conquered Texas from the Comanches. Mexicans always got their ass kicked by the Comanches and were unable to settle the state. If it had been left to Mexicans, Texas would still be under the control of the Comanche Nation. Men who died at the Alamo, those who won the battles over generations, are not the same as some other race who also happens to like trucks. Yours is a terribly superficial analysis.

    Gee, they both like enchiladas too, so totally the same, right?

  165. @Almost Missouri
    @Alrenous


    Roman history parallel: Brussels = Byzantium
     
    Are you saying that Brussels (42% non-European and increasing) will be an outpost of Western civilization for another thousand years?

    Replies: @Alrenous

    Seems quite likely!

    Nitpick: outpost of Western corruption. Note that Rome is still relatively Romanic, but Constantinople is now called Istanbul.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Alrenous

    The Muslim Turks kept the name Constantinople. But the Jewish Turks who overthrew the last Sultan changed the name out of hatred of the first Christian Emperor Constantine.

  166. …but Constantinople is now called Istanbul.

    Not in Russia.

  167. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @lavoisier

    Sorry, but that ship has sailed.

    You still think that whites can work within the system, that the system can be fixed. We can't, at least not on a national level and, but by bit due to immigration, not on the state level over time.

    As far fetched as it sounds, whites quietly building their own communities is more realistic than what you suggesting.

    Replies: @Veteran Aryan

    As far fetched as it sounds, whites quietly building their own communities is more realistic than what you suggesting.

    I’m not so sure that “quietly” is an accurate description of something that you’re blabbing about on the internet.

  168. Daily Mail article about the mass shooting at Oxford, MI, https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10262809/Michigan-high-school-shooter-15-refusing-speak-juvenile-center.html, quotes a classmate of the shooter’s: “I’ve seen him around the school. He’s a kid, he’s been picked on and stuff like this and when a kid has been picked on, people bullying him, you’re going to get this. You’re going to get this reaction”, and has a photo of that classmate, who apparently knew the shooter. The classmate in the photo is black. The shooter has yet to be identified in the media.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @lysias

    Kid is Ethan Crumbley. Dad bought a 9MM Sig Sauer on Friday. Kid practiced with it all weekend. Brought the gun to school and murdered others on Tuesday. Kid had behavior problems.

    Race not mentioned. One shouldn’t make assumptions. But.......

    Replies: @Brutusale

    , @JimDandy
    @lysias

    That's enough for me. The shooter was Jr. Antifa. Spread the word.

  169. @Reg Cæsar
    @Thomm


    ...not one would say that having sex with a pretty mulatto woman is preferable to having sex with a white man.
     
    I found that young Somali and other East African women still possess that intense feminine élan once common and so fetching among European girls, and that I missed so much after returning to America. They were fun to observe from afar, but there was no temptation to "hook up". I'd no more "do it" with an Afghan than an Afghan hound.

    Why not? Because I had long since grown up from a desire for "having sex" to one for having children. That closed off any thought of them as potential mates, for racial and religious reasons. That's not what I want my kids to be. I told myself I might marry a half-Asian woman, but not a full-Asian one. Indeed, I was wary of white women of a single stock, say, Irish. (The children I finally did sired have ten known Western European ethnicities.)

    So you mock others' immaturity while displaying your own.


    https://static.dezeen.com/uploads/2019/10/archetype-lighting-collection-workstead-glass-house_dezeen_hero-a-1704x959.jpg

    Replies: @Boomthorkell, @Truth

    Why not? Because I had long since grown up from a desire for “having sex” to one for having children.

    Well, they’re kind of hard to separate, Old Sport, unless you get a lab involved.

    But quite honestly, and I mean this question with no malice intended becuase you’ve been here over a decade, you’re how old now?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Truth

    Some eat to live, others live to eat. Like your old buddy Walter Hudson. Sex has a similar dynamic.

    But if you're right, the colonial Puritans were the sexiest people ever. Their TFR was five or six times ours!

  170. @Thomm
    @Reg Cæsar


    You seriously want us to vote for a Gavin Newsom over a Larry Elder? That’s taking race to an insane level.
     
    er.... these are already males who say that having sex with a pretty mulatto woman like a 1995 Halle Berry is worse than having sex with a white man. Their rationale is that race loyalty has to trump sexual orientation, and producing no baby is better than producing a mulatto baby.

    This question has been posed to many of the most strident WN types over here, and not one would say that having sex with a pretty mulatto woman is preferable to having sex with a white man.

    Commenter Truth can vouch for having witnessed this many times.

    So voting for Newsom over Elder is nowhere near the lengths they are willing to go.


    This comment should not be moderated, as it is very on-topic to the question posed.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Boomthorkell, @RonaldReagansLoveChildWithMadonna, @Truth

    This question has been posed to many of the most strident WN types over here, and not one would say that having sex with a pretty mulatto woman is preferable to having sex with a white man.

    Commenter Truth can vouch for having witnessed this many times.

    There have been very strange responses here. I think Thomm, you and I might be a little older than some of these kids, I’m mid 50’s; when I was a kid, even a flaming fagg would lie and say he would rather be with a woman than a man.

  171. @Colin Wright
    @lavoisier

    'Any ideas on how to bring out the best in blacks??'

    Study the opening scenes of Gone with the Wind.

    ...failing that, Jim Crow kinda worked.

    ...but seriously, boys and girls. People have to shake this mischievous idea that blacks somehow could be, should be, are the equal of whites and other races, or could be treated as if they are.

    They can't. Four-fifths of the problems we see right now stem from trying to pretend otherwise.

    It's not like blacks are inherently evil, or even inherently dysfunctional. They've become that way, because we've insisted on trying to make them into something that they're not.

    Replies: @Alden

    Gone With The Wind. Horrible horrible movie glorifying blacks. Blacks in every scene. Screeching their gug guh guu language. Book was just as bad. I don’t like all those dialect books. Like Huck Finn. Difficult to read with all those words with apostrophes substituted for letters.

    First scene lawn trees facade of house. Pretty Scarlett in her pretty dress talking to 2 young men.

    Second scene ext of the house windows. Window pops open and the ugliest black woman the casting director could find sticks her gorilla face out and starts screeching incoherently.

    I saw enough blacks at work downtown in certain areas of the city. Who wants to watch them in a movie.

    I know I know Scarlett was based on Mitchell’s grandmother who owned a sawmill using rented convict labor. The characters and various stories were real. Scarlett was really a 1920’s flapper like Zelda Fitzgerald and Mitchell herself going out of her way to shock the older ladies.

    The carpetbaggers and reconstruction scalawag collaborators were real. I have family history of a scalawag uncle cheating 3 teen orphans out of 2 plantations and several blocks of prime downtown real estate in Frankfurt Kentucky. And using the money he stole to found The Denver Post. Yes, GOTW is real.

    Everything southern but the music is ruined by the Black Plague.

    The absolute absolute worst scenes in the movie are the ones where the po’ White trash ambushes Scarlett and attempts to presumably rape her. And she’s saved by her big brave black devoted slave. De construct that scene. He throws off several White attempted rapists as if they were scare cries and rescues the Princess.

    And then Ashley and other White men in the secretive KKK go out at night to punish the White men who ambushed and tried to rape Scarlett?????

    Alden knows pro black communist propaganda when she sees it. Margaret Mitchell isn’t much different from Richard Wright Harper Lee Truman Capote or any other pro black propagandist

    Enjoy GOTW. But be aware of the underlying message.

    A much better book and movie is Cold Mountain. Located in western N Carolina Appalachia. Because no hideous screeching blacks ruining it.

    Certain things GOTW Kill a Mockingbird Scottsboro boy’s Emmett Till turn on the Alden truth telling machine.

  172. @prosa123
    Deadly mass shooting today at a white exurban high school in Michigan.

    Replies: @Polymath

  173. @Alrenous
    @Almost Missouri

    Seems quite likely!

    Nitpick: outpost of Western corruption. Note that Rome is still relatively Romanic, but Constantinople is now called Istanbul.

    Replies: @Alden

    The Muslim Turks kept the name Constantinople. But the Jewish Turks who overthrew the last Sultan changed the name out of hatred of the first Christian Emperor Constantine.

  174. @Twinkie
    @Citizen of a Silly Country


    Colorblind civic nationalism has been an abject failure for 50 years.
     
    Except we haven't had "colorblind civic nationalism" since the 1960's. The moment "affirmative action" was instituted by leftists, "colorblind civic nationalism" was discarded.

    The commanding heights of society openly hate whites.
     
    You think Nancy Pelosi hates whites? You think she's living in a black area and eschewing a white neighborhood? You buy the rhetoric on TV and don't seem to realize that we are, in reality, in the midst of a white people civil war, in which the GoodWhites are beating the BadWhites over the head with their black auxiliaries. Don't fixate on the bat and miss the opponent actually wielding that bat.

    The institutions and values that CivNats hold so dear are despised.
     
    The U.S. armed forces are an institution that is probably the most civic nationalist in orientation among all the major institutions in the country (complete with IQ tests and occupational specialties based on them) and they command a great deal of respect among the masses, far greater than that garnered by all the color-aware institutions.

    Going "Al Sharpton" has been a disaster for the downscale and ordinary blacks. What makes you think such an orientation will help downscale and ordinary whites? Black militancy turned out to benefit only a tiny sliver of the (elite) black population. Do you think white militancy will be any different?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @John Johnson, @Loyalty Over IQ Worship, @Alden

    Early 60s and mid 1950s were a time of racial turmoil and Jew led black uprisings. Eisenhower sending in the army to send black savages to torture and terrorize Whites In 1956. MLK and the Birmingham bus boycott . Emmett Till
    Parents subscribed afternoon newspaper. Brought it in when I came home from school. Looked at the comics. Could barely read. But remember the headlines screeching about save the blacks from the evil southerners. MLK and wife’s faces in Newsweek New Republic Atlantic in all the magazines parents subscribed to.

    Freedom Riders those 3 Detroit Jews killed by KKK in the south. Even a child who could barely read the newspaper and magazines in my parents home couldn’t miss the civil rights agitation.

  175. @Hangnail Hans
    @anon

    Speaking of Twitter. The new CEO doesn't know how to scrub his own tweets. Or just knows he doesn't have to...


    https://i.ibb.co/SmztP9x/Capture-2021-11-29-13-47-26-2.png

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Is it a paradigm in big-t Tech for the founding nerd almost always being replaced by an asshat desi?

  176. @Boomthorkell
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thomm just wants to signal he's "better", for some ludicrous reason. It's odd because any group he's signaling to despises Trump (Supply and Demand, for example, wishes universal death and suffering upon anyone in the old country), whom he allegedly likes? It's just silly really.

    It's doubly odd he appeals to Truth, who being associated with is about as damning as being associated with Corvinus on the spiritual plane. Defenders and honorers of child rapists! Wild.

    Replies: @Alden

    I believe Supply and Demand has given up on persuading the Men of UNZ we are all illiterate White trash losers watching Kardashian TV in our broken down trailers. I wonder if he really married the Crown Princess of Manchuria. Or is a lowly ESL teacher living in a barracks provided by the local secondary school for foreign teachers.

  177. @Twinkie
    @kaganovitch

    It's a very underappreciate and underrated film. Probably was Milius's finest work until Rome.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Brutusale

    Rome is the only cable series that I actually bought the DVDs for. Just a great series that ended too soon.

  178. Here’s a bit of serendipity.

    https://www.bigtrial.net/2021/12/krasner-strikes-again-suspect-in-murder.html

    Online, friends of Collington, who had campaigned on behalf of Bernie Sanders for president, were trying to stop people from turning Collington’s murder into a political weapon against the campaign to reform the criminal justice system that’s led in this town by D.A. Krasner.

    This time, apparently, the incompetence of Krasner’s office was responsible for the murder of one of his own supporters. But that’s not how Douglas Leake saw it.

    Online, Leake described his friend Sam Collington as a “devout Marxist” who “would not want his death to be used to push any sort of right-wing pro-police agenda such as stop and frisk.”

    “We must not let this travesty spawn oppression of any kind,” Leake wrote. “I will never stop defending his legacy of radical justice, peace and equality.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Nemo me impune lacessit

    Low life black criminals murdered a devoted White Marxist? And in ultra liberal Killadelphia? How nice.

  179. Will George Soros bail out Darrell Brooks so he can run down Clarence Thomas? Wisconsin’s top court says Republicans are free to gerrymander, effectively giving them the state legislature for another decade. With a Democratic governor, gridlock. Which means:

    A 172-year-old abortion law could go back into effect in Wisconsin

    It will no longer be up to “a woman and her (((doctor)))”.

    Cheeseheads, read up on writ of mandamus and nullification!

  180. Sadly ON TOPIC.

    School shooting in Michigan.

    Question – what psychotropic drugs was the juvenile on? Ritalin? Anti-depressants? Other ADHD medication?

    It is well known that withdrawal from medication, marijuana use etc. can trigger psychotic episodes in susceptible juveniles.

  181. @lysias
    Daily Mail article about the mass shooting at Oxford, MI, https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10262809/Michigan-high-school-shooter-15-refusing-speak-juvenile-center.html, quotes a classmate of the shooter's: "I've seen him around the school. He's a kid, he's been picked on and stuff like this and when a kid has been picked on, people bullying him, you're going to get this. You're going to get this reaction", and has a photo of that classmate, who apparently knew the shooter. The classmate in the photo is black. The shooter has yet to be identified in the media.

    Replies: @Alden, @JimDandy

    Kid is Ethan Crumbley. Dad bought a 9MM Sig Sauer on Friday. Kid practiced with it all weekend. Brought the gun to school and murdered others on Tuesday. Kid had behavior problems.

    Race not mentioned. One shouldn’t make assumptions. But…….

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Alden

    Just a dweeby white kid.

    https://nypost.com/2021/12/01/michigan-school-shooting-suspect-identified-as-ethan-crumbley/

    Replies: @Truth

  182. @Nemo me impune lacessit
    Here's a bit of serendipity.

    https://www.bigtrial.net/2021/12/krasner-strikes-again-suspect-in-murder.html

    Online, friends of Collington, who had campaigned on behalf of Bernie Sanders for president, were trying to stop people from turning Collington's murder into a political weapon against the campaign to reform the criminal justice system that's led in this town by D.A. Krasner.

    This time, apparently, the incompetence of Krasner's office was responsible for the murder of one of his own supporters. But that's not how Douglas Leake saw it.

    Online, Leake described his friend Sam Collington as a "devout Marxist" who "would not want his death to be used to push any sort of right-wing pro-police agenda such as stop and frisk."

    "We must not let this travesty spawn oppression of any kind," Leake wrote. "I will never stop defending his legacy of radical justice, peace and equality.

    Replies: @Alden

    Low life black criminals murdered a devoted White Marxist? And in ultra liberal Killadelphia? How nice.

  183. @lysias
    Daily Mail article about the mass shooting at Oxford, MI, https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10262809/Michigan-high-school-shooter-15-refusing-speak-juvenile-center.html, quotes a classmate of the shooter's: "I've seen him around the school. He's a kid, he's been picked on and stuff like this and when a kid has been picked on, people bullying him, you're going to get this. You're going to get this reaction", and has a photo of that classmate, who apparently knew the shooter. The classmate in the photo is black. The shooter has yet to be identified in the media.

    Replies: @Alden, @JimDandy

    That’s enough for me. The shooter was Jr. Antifa. Spread the word.

  184. @Truth
    @Reg Cæsar


    Why not? Because I had long since grown up from a desire for “having sex” to one for having children.
     
    Well, they're kind of hard to separate, Old Sport, unless you get a lab involved.

    But quite honestly, and I mean this question with no malice intended becuase you've been here over a decade, you're how old now?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Some eat to live, others live to eat. Like your old buddy Walter Hudson. Sex has a similar dynamic.

    But if you’re right, the colonial Puritans were the sexiest people ever. Their TFR was five or six times ours!

  185. @Boomthorkell
    @Thomm

    Nah.

    I think the issue is that you take a a childish "argument and response" and try to make it a founding philosophy of sexuality and politics.

    I tell you what. Find a way to solve Drag Queen Story Hour and the fact a large segment of America's functional, non-WN and "not openly" far left (David French comes to mind, but just think of the average American really) finds it tolerable and okay, and you might be hitting on a real socio-political gold mine.

    I never made any such claim, Thomm. I won't give a yea or nea response though, because I would rather tell you to ****-off and die than play a game with a 14-year old when I'm not being paid to (or rather, I'm paid to be above the "mind-games" of children.) That aside, I think they both left because they ultimately had better things to do. Anatoly Karlin has a nationalist Russia, a proper one, and Audacious Epigone just got plain tired.

    Anyhow, good luck dealing with the fact most of our countrymen tolerate, if not outright praise, evil, while you keep blaming the whole god-damn moral rot on some internet stock-phrases like "I would rather XX than YY."

    Fuck, man.

    Replies: @Thomm

    Tell you what….

    Write a cogent, articulate explanation about why you think that males with WN beliefs say it is worse to have sex with the prettiest mulatta/quatroon woman (a 1995 Halle Berry or whoever qualifies as the prettiest) than to have sex with a white man.

    Write the full reasoning, and I will give it a fair hearing. I will also refer people to it whenever they are baffled as to why WNs exhibit this homosexual preference.

    I have never included you on that Hall of Shame list that about 12 other regulars here are on (yet), because you at least try to provide explanations. But I point out again that no heterosexual man, white or otherwise, will ever have ANY hesitation in saying that between the two choices, the woman is infinitely preferable, especially a very pretty woman (again, Halle Berry or equivalent). The fact that she is 25-50% black does not disqualify her from womanhood.

    So write up your rationale. I will give it a fair hearing.

    “I would rather XX than YY.”

    You got the chromosomes wrong. What you meant to say is that ‘You would rather (do) XY than XX’.

    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
    @Thomm

    Ah, the chromosome comparison was a complete accident. I was just putting down random variables to represent "whatever words one might say in a 'woukd you rather' challenge." X and Y would have been much less confusing (or lack other implications, I should say.)

    You have not addressed the issue of why, as you claim, a plurality of the 80% "functional" Whites tolerate or outright support madness and perversion. It would be easy to simply say "they aren't actually all that functional" or "the functional percent is lower", etc.

    If 80% of White people were functional and operating at good capacity, our national situation would be in much better shape than it is.

    Replies: @Thomm

  186. @Alden
    @lysias

    Kid is Ethan Crumbley. Dad bought a 9MM Sig Sauer on Friday. Kid practiced with it all weekend. Brought the gun to school and murdered others on Tuesday. Kid had behavior problems.

    Race not mentioned. One shouldn’t make assumptions. But.......

    Replies: @Brutusale

    • Thanks: Alden
    • Replies: @Truth
    @Brutusale

    Don't let him fool you Brutey, look around his eyes, he's at least 4% black!

    Replies: @Thomm

  187. Nothing on Oxford? It would appear to violate Sailer’s Law. Cute pudgy white kid shooter shoots white kids? Nothing?

  188. @Thomm
    @Boomthorkell

    Tell you what....

    Write a cogent, articulate explanation about why you think that males with WN beliefs say it is worse to have sex with the prettiest mulatta/quatroon woman (a 1995 Halle Berry or whoever qualifies as the prettiest) than to have sex with a white man.

    Write the full reasoning, and I will give it a fair hearing. I will also refer people to it whenever they are baffled as to why WNs exhibit this homosexual preference.

    I have never included you on that Hall of Shame list that about 12 other regulars here are on (yet), because you at least try to provide explanations. But I point out again that no heterosexual man, white or otherwise, will ever have ANY hesitation in saying that between the two choices, the woman is infinitely preferable, especially a very pretty woman (again, Halle Berry or equivalent). The fact that she is 25-50% black does not disqualify her from womanhood.

    So write up your rationale. I will give it a fair hearing.


    “I would rather XX than YY.”
     
    You got the chromosomes wrong. What you meant to say is that 'You would rather (do) XY than XX'.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell

    Ah, the chromosome comparison was a complete accident. I was just putting down random variables to represent “whatever words one might say in a ‘woukd you rather’ challenge.” X and Y would have been much less confusing (or lack other implications, I should say.)

    You have not addressed the issue of why, as you claim, a plurality of the 80% “functional” Whites tolerate or outright support madness and perversion. It would be easy to simply say “they aren’t actually all that functional” or “the functional percent is lower”, etc.

    If 80% of White people were functional and operating at good capacity, our national situation would be in much better shape than it is.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    @Boomthorkell


    You have not addressed the issue of why, as you claim, a plurality of the 80% “functional” Whites tolerate or outright support madness and perversion.
     
    Most of us don't tolerate it. We are fighting back at school board meetings across the country. Perhaps you saw that in the news. That said, it goes without saying that any middle-class white person who still votes Democrat is either totally brainwashed, a single mother, or a masochist. Alas, that is still about 40% of whites.

    But so there are multiple problems going on at once. That is your big revelation.

    WNs are mostly gay, and mostly socialist. Remember that politics is a circle, and far-left and 'far-right' are almost the same. Add to this the fact that homosexuality was created by nature to weed out defective genes, and the fact that most WNs are gay is self-explanatory. The female counterparts of the all-male WN community are the fat bluehaired feminists.

    You didn't provide a cogent explanation for the main topic that I was discussing. Remember, a heterosexual white man emphatically would, without any hesitation or qualification, choose a pretty mulatta/quatroon (such as 90s Halle Berry or equivalent) over a white man as a sexual partner. Any man who would not is simply not a heterosexual. Period. There is no room for shades of gray or disclaimers or fine print.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell

  189. @Boomthorkell
    @Thomm

    Ah, the chromosome comparison was a complete accident. I was just putting down random variables to represent "whatever words one might say in a 'woukd you rather' challenge." X and Y would have been much less confusing (or lack other implications, I should say.)

    You have not addressed the issue of why, as you claim, a plurality of the 80% "functional" Whites tolerate or outright support madness and perversion. It would be easy to simply say "they aren't actually all that functional" or "the functional percent is lower", etc.

    If 80% of White people were functional and operating at good capacity, our national situation would be in much better shape than it is.

    Replies: @Thomm

    You have not addressed the issue of why, as you claim, a plurality of the 80% “functional” Whites tolerate or outright support madness and perversion.

    Most of us don’t tolerate it. We are fighting back at school board meetings across the country. Perhaps you saw that in the news. That said, it goes without saying that any middle-class white person who still votes Democrat is either totally brainwashed, a single mother, or a masochist. Alas, that is still about 40% of whites.

    But so there are multiple problems going on at once. That is your big revelation.

    WNs are mostly gay, and mostly socialist. Remember that politics is a circle, and far-left and ‘far-right’ are almost the same. Add to this the fact that homosexuality was created by nature to weed out defective genes, and the fact that most WNs are gay is self-explanatory. The female counterparts of the all-male WN community are the fat bluehaired feminists.

    You didn’t provide a cogent explanation for the main topic that I was discussing. Remember, a heterosexual white man emphatically would, without any hesitation or qualification, choose a pretty mulatta/quatroon (such as 90s Halle Berry or equivalent) over a white man as a sexual partner. Any man who would not is simply not a heterosexual. Period. There is no room for shades of gray or disclaimers or fine print.

    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
    @Thomm

    Oh, definitely. People are fighting it. You seem to be aware actually of the complexity of the statistics and societal conflict involved, so I realize now you weren't actually taking your main claim as an "absolute fact" but rather more...an idea (I was wondering why WN were your big bugaboo when there was infinitely worse things happening, but it seems they aren't. At the very least, they are more just a target for your online annoyances...possibly a kind of "don't associate me with them, I'm better" kind of vibe?)

    Anyhow, I'm glad we're allies in that fight. I mean, you're on here anyway, so you it's unlikely you'd be one of them anyway ; )

    I've heard this argument on the WN-community, but frankly it isn't true. At the very least, I haven't seen any actually convincing statistics on it. I do agree though that (in a modern society) a RW community of any sort cannot exist without some extreme LW-group. For now I'll side aside reasonable arguments about the quality of America's self-proclaimed "Left-Wing" and stick with the terms they use for themselves. Anyhow, if a society's mainstream is healthy nationalism, good values, etc., "vehement" nationalists tend not to exist. Basically, they don't need. Much like in Russia, they become almost comical fringe groups. Here, of course, they are a natural reactions to America's rather unnatural ideologies and imperial culture. Similarly, it's LW is a mirror as well. I'm a Pan-American Nationalist (so...everyone gets to be nationalist, but also mix when they want to, etc.), but I understand where the WN's, BN's, Christian Revivalists, New Age Occultists, Chasids, Tang Societies, La Razas and Indian Revivalists (the honest ones, not the annoying suck ups) are coming from. I encourage all of them...within reason, I suppose.

    I mean, I did, but I realize now we'll just go round and round. The long and short of it is, I can almost guarantee, in a casual conversation, if you mentioned some member of a (fill-in separate race from person you are speaking to) was attractive, most of the people who ended up on your list would immediately say (assuming they were genuinely attracted to their features...some people just aren't attractive to everyone, etc. etc.), would say yes. I would say yes. Probably.

    One could then phrase it, separate from any argument, as a joke "Would you rather **** Michael Moore or Halle Berry?", and nearly everyone (unless they are being super, super vehement on a belief that they won't ever have to actually carry out, that's the thing about "Would you rathers"), would immediately go "What a dumb would you rather! Of course."

    What you did wasn't that. What you did was get involved in an argument that is part of a wider cultural issue and connect it to that issue. So, instead of it being a normal conversation, what you instead did was challenge someone. The words don't matter. You know the words don't matter. What matters is the challenge. The same underlying emotional impulse and need for dominance in a child that makes them offer stupid, silly challenges sets of the same, underlying emotional impulsiveness and need for dominance in other children. This is why they give responses like "I would rather eat dirt!" or "I would rather **** Michael Moore than that Quadrune!" (no offense, Halle Berry, I don't actually know what you are, but I think you're a lovely woman.)

    Now, the child knows they won't have to eat dirt, just as the online commenter knows they won't actually have fuck Michael Moore, but both would rather die (verbally) than give the other child any semblance of power over them. You deride this as silly, despite taking part in the childish argument.

    In all fairness though, to the children involved, that same irrational impulse to die on that hill is rather noble when it comes to other things. This is why, of course, people get faced all the time with choices that would seem completely reasonable: "Change your current beliefs, and I'll spare your family." etc. etc., and quite a few people (mostly men, but women and children too at times) look them square in the face and say "I would rather die!" and then, in fact, they do.

  190. @Brutusale
    @Alden

    Just a dweeby white kid.

    https://nypost.com/2021/12/01/michigan-school-shooting-suspect-identified-as-ethan-crumbley/

    Replies: @Truth

    Don’t let him fool you Brutey, look around his eyes, he’s at least 4% black!

    • Replies: @Thomm
    @Truth

    Truth,

    Check out comments #162, #186, #189, and #190.

    The rationalization and avoidance is off the charts. All this instead of the answer a normal man would give.

  191. @Truth
    @Brutusale

    Don't let him fool you Brutey, look around his eyes, he's at least 4% black!

    Replies: @Thomm

    Truth,

    Check out comments #162, #186, #189, and #190.

    The rationalization and avoidance is off the charts. All this instead of the answer a normal man would give.

  192. @Recently Based
    @Arclight

    Why do you think that is?

    Replies: @Arclight

    In some part it’s because respectability politics/culture went out the window 50 years ago. Since then it’s been nothing but being loudly ‘authentically’ black and total group solidarity, so the worst tendencies cannot be criticized because they are the antithesis of white and therefore kind of good. In majority black neighborhoods there is also a low level of social trust and fear of violent retribution as well.

  193. @Thomm
    @Boomthorkell


    You have not addressed the issue of why, as you claim, a plurality of the 80% “functional” Whites tolerate or outright support madness and perversion.
     
    Most of us don't tolerate it. We are fighting back at school board meetings across the country. Perhaps you saw that in the news. That said, it goes without saying that any middle-class white person who still votes Democrat is either totally brainwashed, a single mother, or a masochist. Alas, that is still about 40% of whites.

    But so there are multiple problems going on at once. That is your big revelation.

    WNs are mostly gay, and mostly socialist. Remember that politics is a circle, and far-left and 'far-right' are almost the same. Add to this the fact that homosexuality was created by nature to weed out defective genes, and the fact that most WNs are gay is self-explanatory. The female counterparts of the all-male WN community are the fat bluehaired feminists.

    You didn't provide a cogent explanation for the main topic that I was discussing. Remember, a heterosexual white man emphatically would, without any hesitation or qualification, choose a pretty mulatta/quatroon (such as 90s Halle Berry or equivalent) over a white man as a sexual partner. Any man who would not is simply not a heterosexual. Period. There is no room for shades of gray or disclaimers or fine print.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell

    Oh, definitely. People are fighting it. You seem to be aware actually of the complexity of the statistics and societal conflict involved, so I realize now you weren’t actually taking your main claim as an “absolute fact” but rather more…an idea (I was wondering why WN were your big bugaboo when there was infinitely worse things happening, but it seems they aren’t. At the very least, they are more just a target for your online annoyances…possibly a kind of “don’t associate me with them, I’m better” kind of vibe?)

    Anyhow, I’m glad we’re allies in that fight. I mean, you’re on here anyway, so you it’s unlikely you’d be one of them anyway ; )

    I’ve heard this argument on the WN-community, but frankly it isn’t true. At the very least, I haven’t seen any actually convincing statistics on it. I do agree though that (in a modern society) a RW community of any sort cannot exist without some extreme LW-group. For now I’ll side aside reasonable arguments about the quality of America’s self-proclaimed “Left-Wing” and stick with the terms they use for themselves. Anyhow, if a society’s mainstream is healthy nationalism, good values, etc., “vehement” nationalists tend not to exist. Basically, they don’t need. Much like in Russia, they become almost comical fringe groups. Here, of course, they are a natural reactions to America’s rather unnatural ideologies and imperial culture. Similarly, it’s LW is a mirror as well. I’m a Pan-American Nationalist (so…everyone gets to be nationalist, but also mix when they want to, etc.), but I understand where the WN’s, BN’s, Christian Revivalists, New Age Occultists, Chasids, Tang Societies, La Razas and Indian Revivalists (the honest ones, not the annoying suck ups) are coming from. I encourage all of them…within reason, I suppose.

    I mean, I did, but I realize now we’ll just go round and round. The long and short of it is, I can almost guarantee, in a casual conversation, if you mentioned some member of a (fill-in separate race from person you are speaking to) was attractive, most of the people who ended up on your list would immediately say (assuming they were genuinely attracted to their features…some people just aren’t attractive to everyone, etc. etc.), would say yes. I would say yes. Probably.

    One could then phrase it, separate from any argument, as a joke “Would you rather **** Michael Moore or Halle Berry?”, and nearly everyone (unless they are being super, super vehement on a belief that they won’t ever have to actually carry out, that’s the thing about “Would you rathers”), would immediately go “What a dumb would you rather! Of course.”

    What you did wasn’t that. What you did was get involved in an argument that is part of a wider cultural issue and connect it to that issue. So, instead of it being a normal conversation, what you instead did was challenge someone. The words don’t matter. You know the words don’t matter. What matters is the challenge. The same underlying emotional impulse and need for dominance in a child that makes them offer stupid, silly challenges sets of the same, underlying emotional impulsiveness and need for dominance in other children. This is why they give responses like “I would rather eat dirt!” or “I would rather **** Michael Moore than that Quadrune!” (no offense, Halle Berry, I don’t actually know what you are, but I think you’re a lovely woman.)

    Now, the child knows they won’t have to eat dirt, just as the online commenter knows they won’t actually have fuck Michael Moore, but both would rather die (verbally) than give the other child any semblance of power over them. You deride this as silly, despite taking part in the childish argument.

    In all fairness though, to the children involved, that same irrational impulse to die on that hill is rather noble when it comes to other things. This is why, of course, people get faced all the time with choices that would seem completely reasonable: “Change your current beliefs, and I’ll spare your family.” etc. etc., and quite a few people (mostly men, but women and children too at times) look them square in the face and say “I would rather die!” and then, in fact, they do.

  194. @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    There were crazy things like in the 1930s a local political figure killed a few dozen kids by blowing up a school.

     

    That was Andrew Kehoe in Bath, Michigan in 1927. He was on the school board, and spent the entire winter planting explosives in the basement. That is still the largest number in a school killing in the US, unless you take the Our Lady of Angels school fire in Chicago in 1958 to be arson. The cause of that is still unknown.

    Bath is only 11th on the worldwide list:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_massacres_by_death_toll

    Last May's Kabul school shooting almost reached the total at Our Lady of Angels, which is not on the list.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @JimDandy

    A 10 year old confessed to setting the school fire. Though the confession was thrown out, he was charged with setting the fire and did get sent to a reform school or something.

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