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With Bill Clinton and John Kerry promising/threatening the rest of us with their visions of a “borderless world,” Mark Steyn suggests an alternative to the coming Mad Max America of metal detectors, armed guards in every commercial establishment, and an all-seeing surveillance state:
From Conservative Review:
Filling in on the Rush Limbaugh radio show today, Mark Steyn made an incredibly salient point in the third hour about calls for increased security at night clubs, airports, etc.
“What we’re seeing now is something quite extraordinary,” Steyn said. “That borders, which are the organizing principle for the world, are bad for the world.”
“If there are no national borders, then you surely do have the right to defend yourself as an individual against the fact that the president has dissolved American sovereignty at the borders,” Steyn continued.
“It’s amazing to me,” he added. “I think this is insane when I listen to people say ‘oh, we’re now going to have to have metal detectors in night clubs, security in nightclubs. Ok, so what happens next? They blow up a bakery, they blow up a little pastry shop, so then you’re gonna have to have metal detectors to get into the pastry shop?”
“Instead of having all these individual perimeters around every Dunkin Donuts franchise or every gas station, or ever J.C. Penny, why not have just one big perimeter around the country?” Steyn concluded. “We could call it a border! And we could have, like, a border security!”
Where do extremists like Steyn come up with these crazy concepts like borders? The Clinton-Kerry mainstream understands the simple common-sense of a “borderless world.”
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Why do the wealthy live in gated communities and walled compounds? They want to live within borders and boundaries. Also the Secret Service is going to be increasing the height of the fence (border) around the White House.
It will never work. Undocumented Visitors will just bring ladders that are five feet taller.
And, that's not who we are.
Secret Service and National Park Service plans for the new fence would also include “anti-climb features” to deter fence jumpers. Small spikes, which officials call “pencil points,” were added to the current fence in 2015 after a series of jumpers leapt the fence on to White House grounds."
They should just top it with concertina wire and put a moat inside the fence with bungee sticks and place machine-gun towers at the corners. The Executive Mansion might as well reflect the nature of what the country is becoming.
They also want to take away your right to secure the space around yourself.
While they go around protected by Praetorian guards.
It’s a global empire.
Despite getting cold cocked by reality time and time again, progressives still believe that we’ve reached the “end of history” and that progress as they define it will never get rolled back. Unfortunately, we have a mass political/sectarian movement that is quite enthusiastic about reclaiming the present for the past.
Or as Hillary said the other day, “we need to build bridges, not walls.”
> these individual perimeters around every Dunkin Donuts franchise or every gas station, or ever J.C. Penny
Libertarian utopia
Steyn has been on fire lately..not that he’s not always pretty damn salient. Compared to all the other talkers, he is a true cosmopolitan, and this stuff is right in his wheelhouse
DNC to Build a Wall for Security During National Convention in Philadelphia
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/10/dnc-build-wall-security-national-convention-philadelphia/
To protect themselves from whom? Donald Trump supporters?
Until there’s a metal detector in every public library in America I won’t feel safe. Homeless persons who use the library as their base of operations are all that stands between us and mass murder. Arm the homeless. Preserve our literary heritage.
This is the sort of hatred that magically causes Muslims to go on murder sprees. This is not who we are!
Compare and contrast the way Christians in America are constantly made fun of by the political and media elites - the worst reaction you might get is an angry post on the Internet or a call into a radio show. Yet they are the ones (particularly if they are white) who are portrayed as troglodytes whose errant ways demand a vigorous and heavy-handed correction courtesy of the federal government.
Not to forget the other half of the cure – stopping the interventionist idiocy the bipartisan US foreign policy idiocracy is infected with.
Worth bearing in mind that the latest islamist terrorist’s parents would not have been in the US at all were it not for the US regime’s choice to use jihadism as a tool of its own interventionist policy in Afghanistan, and he is also on record as feeling (entirely understandable) resentment about US behaviour in Afghanistan:
“When I saw his picture on the news, I thought, of course, he did that,” fellow security guard Eric Baumer told Newsday. “He had bad things to say about everybody—blacks, Jews, gays, a lot of politicians, our soldiers. He had a lot of hate in him. He told me America destroyed Afghanistan.”
[Bold added]
How about breaking up the Bush useless DHS and bring back the INS?
Meanwhile Japan gets away with admitting 12 refugees a year. Must be nice to not have guilt wracked liberals or a rapacious center right party.
The business of Japan is Japan.Replies: @Mr. Anon
Ha!
North Americans have to act while there’s still time. Too late for France. Another attack today in Paris. An Islamist fatally stabbed a police officer and his wife in their home. At least their child is still alive.
I wish I had dragons.
“Steyn is alright, but I prefer McCarthy and French and Kevin Williamson.” Noone ever.
A lot of powerful and wealthy people do not really enjoy things unless only they have them. Having a IPhone before anyone else had a smart phone would have been mind blowing but now? And so many people have nice homes, nice cars with GPS, home entertainment systems, swimming pools -how is a Clinton or a Kennedy or a Bush to enjoy any of them knowing the peasants can get them too. But security? Take the border away and guns away- and only the powerful and connected can feel secure. Priceless. For them. So they will take away your border and your guns.
They gotta an empire to run and masses to brainwash. Busy busy busy like the dragon flies that were biting me last week. Only difference is I like dragon flies (a sign of ecosys-vitality) and they are probably older than sharks.
Separate countries for separate peoples (separate cultures). Imagine that…
> raise the current 6-foot-tall fence [around the White House] to 11 feet.
It will never work. Undocumented Visitors will just bring ladders that are five feet taller.
And, that’s not who we are.
He probably reads fascist white supremacist bloggers like the so-called “Steve Sailer”.
Here’s the reality:
I lived in pre-1965 America. There was no airport security, no railway security, no X-ray machines, no Government goons pawing through our luggage, no Moslems in hijabs wanding our grandmas or absconding to foreign countries to wage jihad. Our country and our countrymen were high-trust – because we Americans were then One People.
I miss pre-1965 America because Open Borders Perpetual Mass Third World Imminvasion destroyed that America – destroyed that Great America. Today I don’t even recognize this country as America, because it’s full of and continues to fill up with people who are not American and who never will be American.
Those never-will-be-Americans are why we Americans are now subjects under a police-surveillance-security regime – and those never-will-be-Americans are why today, at every place we Americans go to in what is supposed to be our country, we are now also subjected to private security of every description and level of stringency.
So, yes: let’s have a border, and let’s police it, let’s defend it, let’s keep the global hordes of never-will-be-Americans the hell out of OUR country.
It is that simple.
After all, what is your dim, passe, embarrassing, memory of a golden age...when $1/3 trillion in the US alone is at stake!?
Clearly we must import more misfitting individuals--hordes of them! Think of the job creation!
And after awhile, you'll get used to it. Or die. And then the younger people, who sense something is wrong but can't put their finger on it, will find something to buy to numb the unease.
Including security industry products!Replies: @PiltdownMan
Yes. I hope if, G-d forbid, she becomes president, there is a big beautiful bridge from Pennsylvania Avenue into the Oval Office.
The business of America is business.
The business of Japan is Japan.
The business of Japan is Japan."
That's good. I'll remember that one.
On the CBS News tonight they tried to do a tribute to what wonderful people were lost. De mortuis nil nisi bonum (of the dead speak only well) but to be honest, it was a very unimpressive group of (mostly) Hispanics. There were no Feynmans or Hawkings lost in that group. We have been lucky that for every violent Muslim we let in there are a hundred Dominican telemarketers and Mexican Disneyland ride operators but honestly what the hell have we been doing for the last 50 years? The next flying car or interplanetary space ship is not coming from this bunch. We could have done so, so much better but we didn’t even try. It probably wasn’t really a great idea to totally transform the ethnic composition of America to begin with but if we were going to do so anyway, couldn’t we have made it more like Seoul or Singapore and less like Mexico City?
A New York-born Afghan shows up at a dance-club party for homosexual Latinos in central Florida, shoots up the place, and calls 911 to declare his allegiance to the Islamic State in Syria.
You can't make this stuff up.
And yet this is the world we have created for ourselves.Replies: @Lagertha, @ATX Hipster
When was America great for Native Born White Americans?...Answer:When America was 90 percent Native Born White American demographically ...like when America put two Alpha Native Born White American Males on the Moon in 1969....Their last names weren't Patel and the first names weren't Sandeep.Replies: @Jack D, @jon
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/10/dnc-build-wall-security-national-convention-philadelphia/Replies: @Jefferson, @Olorin
“DNC to Build a Wall for Security During National Convention in Philadelphia”
To protect themselves from whom? Donald Trump supporters?
I lived in pre-1965 America. There was no airport security, no railway security, no X-ray machines, no Government goons pawing through our luggage, no Moslems in hijabs wanding our grandmas or absconding to foreign countries to wage jihad. Our country and our countrymen were high-trust - because we Americans were then One People.
I miss pre-1965 America because Open Borders Perpetual Mass Third World Imminvasion destroyed that America - destroyed that Great America. Today I don't even recognize this country as America, because it's full of and continues to fill up with people who are not American and who never will be American.
Those never-will-be-Americans are why we Americans are now subjects under a police-surveillance-security regime - and those never-will-be-Americans are why today, at every place we Americans go to in what is supposed to be our country, we are now also subjected to private security of every description and level of stringency.
So, yes: let's have a border, and let's police it, let's defend it, let's keep the global hordes of never-will-be-Americans the hell out of OUR country.
It is that simple.Replies: @GOUSAAMER114, @Olorin, @Mark Green, @Jack D
This is a great comment! So spot on. Exactly right. If only we could start sending them back
Rush was supposed to be back today, but I get the feeling that he deliberately extended his vacation and let Mark Steyn do today, because this is in his wheelhouse.
There are plenty of borders and plenty of border enforcement in a borderless world. They surround and protect the growing increasingly filthy rich increasingly disconnected increasingly bubble-fied international elite.
He mentioned J.C. Penney? As if! No wonder the elites ignore him, they know better than to shop at a declasse place like that. By the way, last year one of their employees put fraudulent charges on my Mom’s card. We won the case, thanks to the intervention of Elizabeth Warren’s new agency.
Dragon flies bite? I’ve seen them my whole life in the Bay Area and never even had one approach me.
In other words, in order to be blessed with the “liberation” of open borders we have to accept authoritarianism within those borders. That might be a bargain people living outside of those borders are thrilled to accept, but why should someone who is already a U.S. citizen accept that “bargain”?
For the NYC-Silicon Valley take on the massacre, see Fred Wilson’s post on it: http://avc.com/2016/06/the-pulse-nightclub-shooting/
Now with 278 comments.
This is an interesting take on the meme of “the wall is too expensive to build; the wall is too difficult to build.”
If we figure in all of the costs associated with metal detectors, security guards, Patriot Act measures, etc, what is the cheaper way to achieve security, and what are the relative costs of a wall + zero immigration vs. distributed security measures?
A renewed focus on borders would put literally tens of millions of security-industry people out of business and demolish the companies on Wall Street/global exchanges.
Steyn is my favorite radio pundit. Rush should be filling in for him.
Politics is all about malice. Obamas, Bushes, Clintons, etc. and all of their donors are primarily motivated by hatred. That is the adult conclusion.
At the top level in politics nobody loves the country. They’re all malicious psychopaths.
Remember when Bush II put those two border patrol guys in the nastiest prison he could find? Because they got aggressive with a fleeing illegal alien?
The actual story was the drug mule had attacked them and ran off, but they shot at him while he was trying to get away. Accepted practice at that station was "no blood no foul", and when they tried to report it up their chain of command, it went no where.
So that POS was trying to climb over a border fence to get back into Mexico, and fell down on the US side. A radar truck saw him not laying there, and the whole sorry story came out.
Johnny Sutton went after them hard for a bullshit charge, tacking on a federal firearms rider. Then Bush II couldn't be damned to pardon them, oh no. Only commuted their sentence so they're still federal felons.
Fun fact, the door mule continued to run drugs while he was paroled into the US, and when he was arrested the US Attorney refused to file charges.
Absolutely disgusting.
So the president, and the ruling class generally, are more afraid than ever of the people.
If we figure in all of the costs associated with metal detectors, security guards, Patriot Act measures, etc, what is the cheaper way to achieve security, and what are the relative costs of a wall + zero immigration vs. distributed security measures?Replies: @Cwhatfuture, @Olorin, @Olorin
As our host has pointed out, saying the wall is too expensive or hard to build is not even true. Israel did it, over very difficult terrain, similar to our Southwest. It took about a year. As we are 100 times richer than Israel, the increased border length should be no issue at all. Opponents of the wall must be made to admit that they favor no controls on immigration at all. That is their position.
I don’t think dragonflies bite, but maybe they are mutating now. Or maybe you’re from Australia, there all animals bite.
Steyn was on fire today.
I hardly ever listen to Rush anymore, which is too bad. In a roundabout way, he was the guy who got me into Steve. One day on air he mentioned NR, so I went to the Barnes and Noble and picked one up. In truth, I couldn’t remember if he said National Review or New Republic, so I bought both, and figured it out. I ended up with a subscription. Anyway, that got me into old school Jonah, the Couch and Cosmo NRO, and somewhere along that great vast ribbon of information super highway I pulled into iSteveville looking for a tank of gas.
Anyway, back to Mark. I only caught the last two hours. However those two hours contained sentiments and observations straight out of an iSteve comment section (albeit somewhat curated, redacted and eloquently restated) beamed straight to the heart of middle America.
I have reached the point where I am numb to most of the cultural insanity we are living with, but when Mark stared telling his story about “A party at the end of the world” — It all hit me. And I felt sadness, not just for the passing of the world that was, but for all those stupid and decadent young men dancing the night away, like some participants at an ancient pagan ritual, thinking that the party would go on forever, little knowing that soon they were to be sacrificed on the alter of multiculturalism.
Sigh.
Now with 278 comments.Replies: @Warner
That’s the stupidest batch of comments I’ve ever read. Worse than Yahoo News because these people think they’re erudite.
How can a government of a “borderless country” have any power when they have no jurisdiction?
In such a scenario we would switch from the kind of “governmental legitimacy” we have come to take for granted in the west, to a law of the jungle, might makes right, unilateral invasion type of government power if governments were to continue to exist in anything like their current form in a “borderless world.”
“Arm the homeless” was something scrawled on Tom Morello’s guitar back in the 90’s.
Don’t ever think you don’t have any effect, Steve:
Stefan Molyneux has 400K subscribers.
I heard some of him today, and I was going to use those exact words, “on fire.” He was just dragging Hussein over his “we must be brave enough to change” thing.
The oligarchs, Hussein, and the rest of the political whores, they need to change. Far more efficient than trying to get the world to change.
He actually dropped a dead-giveaway Sailerism today. Can’t remember what it was, though.
Apparently, the guy was a unhinged, raging homophobe with a gun, and used Islam to gain justification for what he would have done anyway.
The issues here are the homophobia, the unhinged, and the gun, not islam.
The truth is that Islam is a more peaceful religion than Christianity
On a serious note, I still don't know why Tiny/Sick Duck's satire/trolling is permitted here but mine isn't
Ben Affleck is that you?Replies: @Harry Baldwin
In the sense that Islam is realised in Paradise. That's quite different from the idea that the meak inherit the earth because Christianity is realised through daily activities.
Announce publicly that Muhammad was NOT a prophet and that Islam is NOT true or good.
See what happens.
Leave instructions in advance for your heirs to apprise us of how that went.
What were you saying about Islam being more peaceful again?Replies: @Jack D
Yeah, that's why its founder - according to the Koran itself - was a warlord who carried out massacres. You know - just like Jesus is reputed to have done.
Steyn’s other great monologue on the Rush Limbaugh show today, “The Party at the End of the World” (if you heard it, you know what I’m referring to) was pure gold. It ought to be posted and played continuously, because I believe that it was one of those moments when the curtain is drawn back and we glimpse the quiddity of the situation. Somehow or another it has gotten to the point that we now find ourselves living in an alternate universe. The official lies have left their mark on everything, and every day we must tread water in a sea of nonsense as we go about earning our bread and living our lives. It isn’t supposed to be this way. Normal life is supposed to be—normal; not a precarious No Man’s Land in between random acts of terror and the anarcho-tyrannical state security apparatus.
I take a little bit of solace from one fact: There simply isn’t enough money in the world to go on funding the Big Security State. It is economically impossible to employ enough people to watch everybody all the time. Just like the $19 trillion federal debt, at some point there will be a day of reckoning and then we’ll have to abandon these implausible fantasies and deal with the situation as it is. In the meantime though, the party at the end of the world goes on. The vast majority of people still spend their days in a fog of hedonism and egotism, oblivious to the fact that we are in the gloaming hours of easy times. We have pointless debates about transgender bathroom issues while the lights are going down in the theater and mysterious stage hands are carting away the scenery. One day soon we will awake to discover to our horror that the world we thought we inhabited—the world we thought we understood and thought would last forever—simply doesn’t exist anymore, and there is nothing for us now but scarcity and monsters and blasted heaths. The Faustian bargain has come due; the third panel of the Hieronymus Bosch triptych has overtaken the garden of earthly delights. Would that a certain memento mori, a healthy Fear of the Lord, make itself felt in these impious times. We need to be jolted back into sanity.
To be awake in these days means to be afraid. I fear for my future, but at least I am not asleep.
So fear then is warranted, but not despair.
The future is not ours to know.
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Yeah, but it’ll be a toll bridge.
Liberal/Neocon responses: “that’s not who we are!”; “you’re on the wrong side of history”; “you’re helping ISIS”; “We need to build bridges”; “Israel?! What are you antisemitic?!”; “Well, these terrorists are American citizens, so keeping them out won’t do anything!”
I think I got them all…
Wayne Madsen reports that the father of Mateen, like the Boston Bombing Brothers’ father, has ties to the CIA:
https://twitter.com/WMRDC/status/742526021723926528
Or, were they trying to support Hillary.
Yes, he’s great but I punked his ass on Twitter over what he called a Ferguson police state. I just thought you should know that.
Moats are nice as well.
“gets away with admitting 12 refugees a year”
Gets away with?
That implies some crime, misdemeanor or sin, as if the have a “duty” to admit more.
There is none.
They only allow 12 refugees, and that is entirely their decision to make.
Are readers of Steve followers of Michael Savage? His “Borders, Language, Culture” is a perfect fit for this site. Yet Savage is never mentioned….
His name is actually Dr. Michael Weiner and he is a 74-year-old ethnomedicinist. #FunFact
“Dragon flies bite?”
Indeed. You should never approach a Dragon if its flies are not securely zippered.
At the top level in politics nobody loves the country. They're all malicious psychopaths.
Remember when Bush II put those two border patrol guys in the nastiest prison he could find? Because they got aggressive with a fleeing illegal alien?Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Harry Baldwin
You’re not far from the truth.
The actual story was the drug mule had attacked them and ran off, but they shot at him while he was trying to get away. Accepted practice at that station was “no blood no foul”, and when they tried to report it up their chain of command, it went no where.
So that POS was trying to climb over a border fence to get back into Mexico, and fell down on the US side. A radar truck saw him not laying there, and the whole sorry story came out.
Johnny Sutton went after them hard for a bullshit charge, tacking on a federal firearms rider. Then Bush II couldn’t be damned to pardon them, oh no. Only commuted their sentence so they’re still federal felons.
Fun fact, the door mule continued to run drugs while he was paroled into the US, and when he was arrested the US Attorney refused to file charges.
Absolutely disgusting.
A point that Steyn made on the air today was that the circumstances of the Orlando attack are almost beyond absurd.
A New York-born Afghan shows up at a dance-club party for homosexual Latinos in central Florida, shoots up the place, and calls 911 to declare his allegiance to the Islamic State in Syria.
You can’t make this stuff up.
And yet this is the world we have created for ourselves.
http://www.macleans.ca/general/the-case-for-the-seeing-eye-horse/
F*ck! The poor baby, and next of kin, makes me sick.
I wish I had dragons.
I’m suspicious about the fact that the terrorist chose Latino night to shoot the place up. It’s leaking out that the killer had been there several times before and appears to have known some gay guys personally. I’m wondering if he had had a sexual encounter with some Latino guy, and the killing spree was either his way of extirpating his sense of religious guilt, or if he became alarmed that he might actually be gay instead of someone who was just experimenting.
The media keeps emphasizing how angry and unstable the killer was. He sounds like a case of borderline personality disorder to me. Borderlines have a tendency to be either gay or bisexual.
The issues here are the homophobia, the unhinged, and the gun, not islam.
The truth is that Islam is a more peaceful religion than ChristianityReplies: @jewsrrealracist, @Jefferson, @helena, @Unladen Swallow, @RadicalCenter, @Mr. Anon
Indeed, war is peace freedom is slavery ignorance is strength.
On a serious note, I still don’t know why Tiny/Sick Duck’s satire/trolling is permitted here but mine isn’t
The issues here are the homophobia, the unhinged, and the gun, not islam.
The truth is that Islam is a more peaceful religion than ChristianityReplies: @jewsrrealracist, @Jefferson, @helena, @Unladen Swallow, @RadicalCenter, @Mr. Anon
“The truth is that Islam is a more peaceful religion than Christianity”
Ben Affleck is that you?
Worth bearing in mind that the latest islamist terrorist's parents would not have been in the US at all were it not for the US regime's choice to use jihadism as a tool of its own interventionist policy in Afghanistan, and he is also on record as feeling (entirely understandable) resentment about US behaviour in Afghanistan:
"When I saw his picture on the news, I thought, of course, he did that,” fellow security guard Eric Baumer told Newsday. “He had bad things to say about everybody—blacks, Jews, gays, a lot of politicians, our soldiers. He had a lot of hate in him. He told me America destroyed Afghanistan.”
[Bold added]Replies: @Lagertha
I so wished I could have been effectual in policies in the 80’s dealing with the problems that are now causing casualties (again). I so want to smash someone’s head like Lagertha would, at least, disembowel them…ok…extreme, it’s late; I have medicine head.
I just heard audio recorded on a cell phone in the club during the attack. It was low quality, but it sounded a hell of a lot like automatic fire. The Muslim terrorist might’ve modified his Sig.
Yes, Islam is more peaceful than Judaism, but that isn’t saying much. Islam was founded in blood and war, and has been warlike ever since.
Dig deep enough and you’ll find a few of mine from the morning.
No, they won’t. That requires the use of the military against the American people. But no one in the military swore an oath to the powerful and connected. Even the political appointees at the top of the command structure came up through a system whose values are the antithesis of what is necessary to do what you describe.
They already have. There is no border. Anyone who wants to get in, gets in. We have no border.
The army you talk about is busy defending the Latvian border, the straights of Taiwan, some Afghan villages and the generals are enjoying Berlin and Paris. Our border is not on their list of responsibilities.
As for guns, they won't seize them, they will legislate them out of existence. A Hillary court and Presidency would do this in a heart beat. They have announced their intentions and our army has nothing to do with it.
Word up, homeboy.
A New York-born Afghan shows up at a dance-club party for homosexual Latinos in central Florida, shoots up the place, and calls 911 to declare his allegiance to the Islamic State in Syria.
You can't make this stuff up.
And yet this is the world we have created for ourselves.Replies: @Lagertha, @ATX Hipster
sheesh, speak for yourself, Grumpy. And, let me remind you: people died…this is not funny or “stuff made up.” If you don’t give a scheisse about gays, well that’s your neurosis, but don’t speak ill of the dead. GFY.
Meanwhile, Walgreens cuts ties with Theranos.
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/06/13/walgreens-cuts-ties-blood-testing-company-theranos/
Why is it that whenever something major happens, Rush is absent? Is he getting his CIA briefing?
The answer is no….The other option is none of the above. You are an example of why the the mad calibrator’s obsession with IQ test score psychometrics is a dead end. It always ends up justfying race-replacing The Historic Native Born White American Majority with Asians.
When was America great for Native Born White Americans?…Answer:When America was 90 percent Native Born White American demographically …like when America put two Alpha Native Born White American Males on the Moon in 1969….Their last names weren’t Patel and the first names weren’t Sandeep.
India expects to launch humans into space by 2021, which is probably sooner than the next time the US will have its own human spaceflight capabilities again (all US astronauts are currently riding on Russian rockets).
It's hard to conceive of alternate histories, but I can't conceive of an alternate history where the US would have had ZERO non-European immigration post '65 (and I'm not sure we really would have been better off with ZERO immigration. People's rosy remembrances of the past don't include the fact that the US was a much poor country pre-65 - it was common for the entire family to share one bathroom, automobiles were much less reliable, there were 3 TV stations on your blurry black & white TV, most people listened to music on cheap scratchy phonographs (for which they owned a handful of records) or on staticy AM radios, etc. Documents were typed on typewriters, there were few computers, no internet or email or cell phones, etc.) I could however conceive of one where we had real border control and immigrants were selected based upon the likelihood that they and their progeny would be long term net positives to American society. Somehow I think that would not have included 30 million Latinos.
http://www.vdare.com/articles/indians-arent-that-intelligent-on-average
And Southeast Asians aren't much better.
https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/southeast-asian-iq-scores/
The Asian IQ advantage is really just an East Asian IQ advantage.Replies: @RadicalCenter
Steve, what about this 2am to 5am gap in the nightclub massacre official timeline?
That’s a huge gap.
The gap in Columbine was only 45 minutes and caused widespread disgust with the swat team culture.
So this was 180 minutes!!!
First body count was 20 and then it spiked to 50. Absolutely amazing how many kills as a % the shooter was able to pull off. Especially with a full auto weapon which nobody can control well in a firefight. The military only uses full auto to pin down the enemy in order to kill them with artillery or other heavy ordinance.
Witnesses did claim full auto “machine gun” fire.
Did Omar bring 1000 rounds into the building? I don’t think so. Not even close.
Even scarier when the bad guys know how to shoot. Does that make a difference with respect to recommending charging the shooter in this scenario?
12 is still way too many.
Despite that Omar made a call to ISIS (recorded) for this Jihad, it seems that there is mounting (!) speculation that he was a closeted gay guy; ergo, giving mixed messages to the USA and ISIS – sort of funny except he killed innocent people. And, you all, regulars, know, I have always had many gay friends, and I am fine with gays as is my husband; always have been, always will be.
Anyway, all the talking heads across the world will have to re-adjust…and just STFU for 24 hours…pleez. Jihadies still suck, and let’s all of us, slay them for good. Let’s off them. Time’s a wastin.
Remember Obama's Justice Department refused to defend and apply both our marriage laws and our immigration laws.
And that's no accident. The big statists are empowered as much by rewriting our marriage and family laws as by erasing our borders and the distinctive attributes of citizenship.
https://twitter.com/WMRDC/status/742526021723926528Replies: @The most deplorable one, @ATX Hipster
Are you trying to tell us that the CIA now supports Trump?
Or, were they trying to support Hillary.
“…I miss pre-1965 America because Open Borders Perpetual Mass Third World Imminvasion destroyed that America – destroyed that Great America. Today I don’t even recognize this country as America, because it’s full of and continues to fill up with people who are not American and who never will be American.”
Yeah. I also get tired of having to try to make things work as things are going backward. I get tired of being the linguistic and cultural translator. Discourse drops to the lowest common denominator. Nuance and subtlety is lost.
I don’t see how we’re ever going to beat the Soviets to the moon with this crew.
At the top level in politics nobody loves the country. They're all malicious psychopaths.
Remember when Bush II put those two border patrol guys in the nastiest prison he could find? Because they got aggressive with a fleeing illegal alien?Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Harry Baldwin
One of many things I will never forgive Bush II for. I actually despise him more than I do Obama.
As long as we’re on the subject of Mark Steyn, his 2004 obituary for Francis Crick is both clever and insightful.
http://www.steynonline.com/7536/man-and-identity
Ben Affleck is that you?Replies: @Harry Baldwin
More like Ben Aflac.
These must be fake gays:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gays-rally-around-trump-after-orlando-attacks/article/2593742
19:41 The Pulse killer worked for G4S security. In Arizona, Homeland Security hands over non-Mexicans who illegally cross the border to G4S security. G4S transports them to Phoenix where they are often released without processing or a court date. G4S employs 610,000 in 100 countries.
I recommend the entire video.
The media keeps emphasizing how angry and unstable the killer was. He sounds like a case of borderline personality disorder to me. Borderlines have a tendency to be either gay or bisexual.Replies: @Aschwin
Otherwise the media would have to emphasise his religion.
“According to the Secret Service briefing, the agency’s plans would raise the current 6-foot-tall fence to 11 feet. A new concrete “footing” and “foundation” for the fence are also planned.
Secret Service and National Park Service plans for the new fence would also include “anti-climb features” to deter fence jumpers. Small spikes, which officials call “pencil points,” were added to the current fence in 2015 after a series of jumpers leapt the fence on to White House grounds.”
They should just top it with concertina wire and put a moat inside the fence with bungee sticks and place machine-gun towers at the corners. The Executive Mansion might as well reflect the nature of what the country is becoming.
The business of Japan is Japan.Replies: @Mr. Anon
“The business of America is business.
The business of Japan is Japan.”
That’s good. I’ll remember that one.
Good lord, I hope they didn’t pick up any from Somalia.
Before I watch, Omar was gay.
Is that in the video?
The other weirdo in Los Angeles was gay also.
How the hell are Gay activists gonna spin that?
I can usually think of good spins, but that one’s a toughy.
I guess I’d just hunker down, close my eyes, and call for gun control.
The interesting part of the video for me was that Omar's father hosted a show where he praised the Taliban and in April, Omar sold his house to his sister for $10.
Are there any crime statistics matching victim and killer on the basis of sexual orientation? Is such information even gathered? Whenever an "inner-city" shooting occurs, there's a lot of talk (at least on the Right) about black-on-black crime statistics; are there "gay-on-gay" crime stats (I know that sounds weird)?
It's probably not the right moment to wonder about these things; but it would be interesting to know.Replies: @Triumph104
Down here on the farm we have a saying,
” Good fences make good neighbours.”
Apparently, a French police commander and his wife were stabbed to death in Paris, yesterday, by an islamist intruder who broke into their house with the express intention of murder.
So the low intensity warfare which describes France’s truly horrible immigrant situation has notched up another gear.
Remember that the EU wishes to impose French-style Muslim populations upon central Europe.
This is why it is imperative that Britain votes for Brexit.
Beginning to look and sound like South Africa.
Tim Cook, gay leader of Apple, had a moments silence at Apple’s annual WWDC event: http://venturebeat.com/2016/06/13/tim-cook-opens-wwdc-with-moment-of-silence-for-orlando-terrorist-attack-victims/
Tim Cook is known for refusing requests to help the Feds get access to terrorist iPhones.
Will that happen this time? http://m.theage.com.au/world/orlando-gunman-omar-mateen-had-used-gay-dating-app-visited-pulse-nightclub-witnesses-say-20160614-gpieye.html
“FBI agents scrambled on Monday to recover data from Mateen’s electronic media – mobile phones, computers and other devices…”
Will the murder of gays out-Pokemon privacy?
Some people have claimed that the whole Apple / Federal Government standoff was a crock. That the Feds had other ways of cracking the phones, or that Apple really did help them but pretended not to. I don't know if that is true or not, but I don't think it's implausible.
Guards with assault rifles at the entrances of supermarkets and office buildings – that’s how it is in India. So, I gotta admit it is a realistic possibility elsewhere.
I used to go to Mexico every few years, but didn’t visit between 1986 and 1996. The big change in 1996 was that guys with AK-47s were suddenly everywhere. And the mansions on top of the hills were a lot huger in 1996. I think there was a connection …
But it would be racist to not want America to turn into Mexico.
The issues here are the homophobia, the unhinged, and the gun, not islam.
The truth is that Islam is a more peaceful religion than ChristianityReplies: @jewsrrealracist, @Jefferson, @helena, @Unladen Swallow, @RadicalCenter, @Mr. Anon
The truth is that Islam is a more peaceful religion than Christianity
In the sense that Islam is realised in Paradise. That’s quite different from the idea that the meak inherit the earth because Christianity is realised through daily activities.
Can everyone just fracking, retire the words, “Lone Wolf?” – because it’s total bullshit; and, you are insulting wolves. The pathetic Jihadi who shot up a lot of innocent gay guys does not deserve any sort of introspection of his behavior; there is no excuse, no “cultural” excuse/deep socio-anthropological reason for his nihilism. Otherwise, you are, actually, a part of the crime. He was an evil Islamist dude who killed a lot of innocent people – like tonight in France. AND, any politician that disputes or obfuscates this crime needs to be imprisoned, or at least, ratted-out. Get a life, people – you are next.
So far, Trump gets this. We will see how this builds up. Find your souls and truth, everyone, find your souls. The gods will be watching, but maybe not.
In my humble opinion the politicians – both on the extreme left and ‘libertarian’ right, and most especially that journal of the elitists ‘The Economist’ magazine – which have encouraged, promoted and urged on massive uncontrolled third world immigration, are infinitely more culpable than Isis or any islamist terrorists are.
The issues here are the homophobia, the unhinged, and the gun, not islam.
The truth is that Islam is a more peaceful religion than ChristianityReplies: @jewsrrealracist, @Jefferson, @helena, @Unladen Swallow, @RadicalCenter, @Mr. Anon
Please stop embarrassing yourself, go back to your emotional echo chamber at Salon. The guy was an Afghan, in other words from the most backward Muslim country on the Earth ( And that’s saying something ) and if gay people are so persecuted in the US, why hasn’t there been massacres at numerous gay clubs that exist in the country from coast to coast by non-Muslims? Why is the greatest mass shooting/terrorist attack being initiated by a Muslim when they are a small fraction of the US population? Why did this guy go the capital of Jihadism Saudi Arabia twice? why was he celebrating the September 11 attacks as a teenager? I don’t think it’s incidental that he was a Muslim or an Afghan, troll.
If we figure in all of the costs associated with metal detectors, security guards, Patriot Act measures, etc, what is the cheaper way to achieve security, and what are the relative costs of a wall + zero immigration vs. distributed security measures?Replies: @Cwhatfuture, @Olorin, @Olorin
Yeah, but who is pocketing all that bling?
G4S–Citizen Mateen’s employer–employs 610,000 people in 100 countries and is the world’s largest security company by revenue.
A wall would put literally tens of millions of security-industry people out of business and demolish the companies on Wall Street/global exchanges.
People talk about “the government” and “the state” and surveillance, etc. But those entities are contracting out a lot of this stuff.
We’re talking about a third-of-a-trillion-dollar-market industry in the US alone:
http://www.securitymagazine.com/articles/84623-security-industry-market-worth-350-billion-study%29
You think they want to turn over their borderless dangerous risky scary lucrative world model to a WALL?
If we figure in all of the costs associated with metal detectors, security guards, Patriot Act measures, etc, what is the cheaper way to achieve security, and what are the relative costs of a wall + zero immigration vs. distributed security measures?Replies: @Cwhatfuture, @Olorin, @Olorin
Sorry, in my third paragraph I meant to say
A renewed focus on borders would put literally tens of millions of security-industry people out of business and demolish the companies on Wall Street/global exchanges.
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/10/dnc-build-wall-security-national-convention-philadelphia/Replies: @Jefferson, @Olorin
I liked this part of the piece:
Nice to know our government security agents–and citizens of the republic founded in Philly–have their priorities in order.
I lived in pre-1965 America. There was no airport security, no railway security, no X-ray machines, no Government goons pawing through our luggage, no Moslems in hijabs wanding our grandmas or absconding to foreign countries to wage jihad. Our country and our countrymen were high-trust - because we Americans were then One People.
I miss pre-1965 America because Open Borders Perpetual Mass Third World Imminvasion destroyed that America - destroyed that Great America. Today I don't even recognize this country as America, because it's full of and continues to fill up with people who are not American and who never will be American.
Those never-will-be-Americans are why we Americans are now subjects under a police-surveillance-security regime - and those never-will-be-Americans are why today, at every place we Americans go to in what is supposed to be our country, we are now also subjected to private security of every description and level of stringency.
So, yes: let's have a border, and let's police it, let's defend it, let's keep the global hordes of never-will-be-Americans the hell out of OUR country.
It is that simple.Replies: @GOUSAAMER114, @Olorin, @Mark Green, @Jack D
But just remember, Auntie. You’re one of the horrible old badwhites who needs to die out, so that all that functionality and trust can be replaced with a much more lucrative regime of global security.
After all, what is your dim, passe, embarrassing, memory of a golden age…when $1/3 trillion in the US alone is at stake!?
Clearly we must import more misfitting individuals–hordes of them! Think of the job creation!
And after awhile, you’ll get used to it. Or die. And then the younger people, who sense something is wrong but can’t put their finger on it, will find something to buy to numb the unease.
Including security industry products!
I lived in pre-1965 America. There was no airport security, no railway security, no X-ray machines, no Government goons pawing through our luggage, no Moslems in hijabs wanding our grandmas or absconding to foreign countries to wage jihad. Our country and our countrymen were high-trust - because we Americans were then One People.
I miss pre-1965 America because Open Borders Perpetual Mass Third World Imminvasion destroyed that America - destroyed that Great America. Today I don't even recognize this country as America, because it's full of and continues to fill up with people who are not American and who never will be American.
Those never-will-be-Americans are why we Americans are now subjects under a police-surveillance-security regime - and those never-will-be-Americans are why today, at every place we Americans go to in what is supposed to be our country, we are now also subjected to private security of every description and level of stringency.
So, yes: let's have a border, and let's police it, let's defend it, let's keep the global hordes of never-will-be-Americans the hell out of OUR country.
It is that simple.Replies: @GOUSAAMER114, @Olorin, @Mark Green, @Jack D
But let’s not forget that short, preemptive war in 1967 which forever changed things in the Middle East.
Then there was that other short war in 1973 which Washington supported. And that provoked the first oil embargo. A crippling recession followed. The US auto industry thereafter began its long decline.
Details worth remembering….
There are no values in the command structure. The officer corps is morally bankrupt and a national disgrace.
Very excellent take on those who were mowed down. Not that they deserved it but you have described them well. The Orlando area is full of zillions of Puerto Ricans who have fled their failed almost state/US territory. These PR masses will tip Florida towards Democrat. Just given time because….
Demographics are destiny
I’m not sure 6 Chinese, 4 North Koreans and two Thai admitted count as refugees, though.
Ha!
https://twitter.com/WMRDC/status/742526021723926528Replies: @The most deplorable one, @ATX Hipster
One almost gets the idea that the CIA is more Maxwell Smart than Jason Bourne.
I can’t imagine His wrath will be long now in coming, nor anything but terrible.
So fear then is warranted, but not despair.
The future is not ours to know.
I don’t remember him saying anything about Omar being homosexual. The concluding theme of the video was that the US and the West can either accept homosexuality or import Muslims, only one because both are not compatible.
The interesting part of the video for me was that Omar’s father hosted a show where he praised the Taliban and in April, Omar sold his house to his sister for $10.
After all, what is your dim, passe, embarrassing, memory of a golden age...when $1/3 trillion in the US alone is at stake!?
Clearly we must import more misfitting individuals--hordes of them! Think of the job creation!
And after awhile, you'll get used to it. Or die. And then the younger people, who sense something is wrong but can't put their finger on it, will find something to buy to numb the unease.
Including security industry products!Replies: @PiltdownMan
However, those few who binge-watch early episodes of Mad Men will have the truth revealed to them…
“Where do extremists like Steyn come up with these crazy concepts like borders?”
It’s called noticing.
an AMA on reddit done by a person in Sweden who processes migrants. ( he calls them refugees )
A total lunatic in that he does not seem aware of what his country is in for. This comment in particular:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4npi1s/iama_swedish_welfare_worker_at_a_home_for/
A total lunatic in that he does not seem aware of what his country is in for. This comment in particular:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4npi1s/iama_swedish_welfare_worker_at_a_home_for/d47p7mpReplies: @PiltdownMan
Thanks for the link.
13 kids in 9 apartments in Sweden. Not exactly Dickensian. It’s actually quite an informative read and worth reading all the way through. For instance, this bit…
Three grand, even if you get rejected!
And this…
So the low intensity warfare which describes France's truly horrible immigrant situation has notched up another gear.
Remember that the EU wishes to impose French-style Muslim populations upon central Europe.
This is why it is imperative that Britain votes for Brexit.Replies: @anonymous
“intruder who broke into their house with the express intention of murder….low intensity warfare ”
Beginning to look and sound like South Africa.
Easy. If he was a closeted gay man, it’s your fault he killed those people. If he’s not, it’s still your fault.
AFAIK it became standard practice after Waco and Ruby Ridge for teams to wait out hostage-takers and barricaded suspects if and until they start shooting (after the team is set up). I suppose the idea being 1 if he wanted to shoot, he’d be shooting, not taking hostages 2 he’s gotta nod off sometime 3 optics.
IIRC, Columbine was a situation where the shooters remained active and mobile after cops arrived, not took hostages and barricaded themselves and started negotiations.
As for the body count, you seem to think you’re in a video game, not the real world. There’s no accurate real-time HUD kill counter in the real world. Reports trickle in and often contradict the facts. First they estimated 20, then they counted and the number was higher, then several wounded people died in care.
As for round count, the police said something like 500 rounds were recovered at the scene, including what was expended by the cops during the final shootout. A couple hundred rounds of 5.56 isn’t all that heavy. A loaded 30 round mag weighs 1lb, so 300 rounds in mags is about 10lbs. Barely noticeable if it’s distributed around a vest. 1k rounds in mags would be 30 lbs, not that bad if it’s evenly distributed in a vest, and you aren’t running much.
Speaking of Somalis, Kenya is about to deport 350k of them back to Somalia, a failed state, but it’s okay because Kenya black.
A lot of them are gonna spin it by saying “Islam.” Much better than saying “anti-homosexual homosexual,” I’d guess. Or just punt and blame guns as you suggest.
It's actually not ok with the UN conglomerate and they are desperately trying to stop Kenya with going ahead with the removals.
The Party at the End of the World
http://www.steynonline.com/7543/the-party-at-the-end-of-the-world
Evidently this wouldn’t have been useful against Mateen.
Prediction:
Three years from now, Mark Steyn will have permanently succeeded Rush Limbaugh on the daily show.
I wonder if Steyn could keep up the pace.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @David In TN
Ever notice that those who shrill the loudest in support of a world without borders just happen to live in big houses behind big gates manned by big men with big guns?
How many white Europeans were denied Green Cards while this Troglodyte’s parents were deemed good enough to be allowed to settle and inject their DNA into the American gene pool?
“Yeah, but it’ll be a *troll bridge.”
FIFY.
Sailer-bait:
American-born children of immigrants proving fruitful recruiting ground for jihad in U.S.
Hmm. I imagine that the Venn diagram of the open-borders crowd and SSM supporters is nearly a single circle.
Remember Obama’s Justice Department refused to defend and apply both our marriage laws and our immigration laws.
And that’s no accident. The big statists are empowered as much by rewriting our marriage and family laws as by erasing our borders and the distinctive attributes of citizenship.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/14/us/police-account-of-decisions-made-during-orlando-rampage-contains-crucial-gaps.html
Finally, a piece that at least addresses some of the timeline questions, and goes into active shooter vs barricaded hostage-takers.
That's a huge gap.
The gap in Columbine was only 45 minutes and caused widespread disgust with the swat team culture.
So this was 180 minutes!!!
First body count was 20 and then it spiked to 50. Absolutely amazing how many kills as a % the shooter was able to pull off. Especially with a full auto weapon which nobody can control well in a firefight. The military only uses full auto to pin down the enemy in order to kill them with artillery or other heavy ordinance.
Witnesses did claim full auto "machine gun" fire.
Did Omar bring 1000 rounds into the building? I don't think so. Not even close.Replies: @newyorker, @res, @Buffalo Joe
Three hours for the not too badly wounded to bleed out. A pity
No they won’t? (Remove the border and guns)?
They already have. There is no border. Anyone who wants to get in, gets in. We have no border.
The army you talk about is busy defending the Latvian border, the straights of Taiwan, some Afghan villages and the generals are enjoying Berlin and Paris. Our border is not on their list of responsibilities.
As for guns, they won’t seize them, they will legislate them out of existence. A Hillary court and Presidency would do this in a heart beat. They have announced their intentions and our army has nothing to do with it.
Three years from now, Mark Steyn will have permanently succeeded Rush Limbaugh on the daily show.Replies: @carol, @Jim Don Bob
I think Rush is tired, but happy and perfectly able to entertain himself in retirement. He’s tried to be helpful on immigration though I don’t think he feels threatened by it. No real animus there.
I wonder if Steyn could keep up the pace.
In the ensuing years, Rush almost never mentioned the issue. Later he mildly criticized Bush 43 for pushing amnesty.but would say Bush "has his job as President and thinks this is right."
Sometimes Rush would offhanded say massive immigration would wreck the GOP. I haven't listened to him for 8-9 years.Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Ivy
I wonder if Steyn could keep up the pace.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @David In TN
I enjoy it when Steyn fills in for Rush because he’s got lots of fresh things to say. It’s like getting together with a friend you haven’t seen in a month–you’ll have some good stories and new thoughts to share. When it comes to your spouse, whom you see every day, it’s hard to have fresh and exciting conversation. Rush, who is in the position of the latter, does remarkably well. I’m not sure Steyn could hold up as well on a daily basis. Substitute host Buck Sexton does nothing for me.
I don’t care much for Sean Hannity, but it’s interesting that Trump will get on the phone with him regularly. This is good, because though Trump’s instincts are good, he needs to get more facts and specific talking points together and Hannity always feeds him some.
The latest info on the killer’s possible sexual orientation made me recall another famous murder in Florida: Versace’s murder by Cunanan. That was another case of fatal violence between homosexuals–I think the Shepherd case has been shown now to have also fit that pattern.
Are there any crime statistics matching victim and killer on the basis of sexual orientation? Is such information even gathered? Whenever an “inner-city” shooting occurs, there’s a lot of talk (at least on the Right) about black-on-black crime statistics; are there “gay-on-gay” crime stats (I know that sounds weird)?
It’s probably not the right moment to wonder about these things; but it would be interesting to know.
A white DC middle-school principal was murdered in his suburban home after he called a sex-hotline looking for teenage black meat, not sure if his killers were homosexual. Ironically, the previous owner of the home and his daughter were murdered by an intruder who was a mentally ill black man dressed as a woman.
A transsexual from the documentary Paris is Burning was murdered. When a drag queen from the documentary died of AIDS, a mummified dead body with a gunshot wound was found in his/her closet (the irony). It is speculated that the man was killed during a lover's spat.
Aside: Sometimes homosexual Sheryl Swoopes is head coach of Loyola Chicago's women's basketball. Her players have complained of verbal and emotional abuse. After the 2014-2015 season five players left the team. After 2015-2016 season 10 of 13 players left. Swoopes is under investigation. Being a triple minority, Loyola is too scared to just fire her.
The issues here are the homophobia, the unhinged, and the gun, not islam.
The truth is that Islam is a more peaceful religion than ChristianityReplies: @jewsrrealracist, @Jefferson, @helena, @Unladen Swallow, @RadicalCenter, @Mr. Anon
Go to a Muslim country, say Pakistan.
Announce publicly that Muhammad was NOT a prophet and that Islam is NOT true or good.
See what happens.
Leave instructions in advance for your heirs to apprise us of how that went.
What were you saying about Islam being more peaceful again?
Three years from now, Mark Steyn will have permanently succeeded Rush Limbaugh on the daily show.Replies: @carol, @Jim Don Bob
I only listen to Rush when Steyn is on.
Sorting by “Oldest First” makes them easy to find. Interesting to see one supportive reply among the true believers.
Steyn’s term of art is “Known Wolf,” and this guy certainly fits the definition.
That's a huge gap.
The gap in Columbine was only 45 minutes and caused widespread disgust with the swat team culture.
So this was 180 minutes!!!
First body count was 20 and then it spiked to 50. Absolutely amazing how many kills as a % the shooter was able to pull off. Especially with a full auto weapon which nobody can control well in a firefight. The military only uses full auto to pin down the enemy in order to kill them with artillery or other heavy ordinance.
Witnesses did claim full auto "machine gun" fire.
Did Omar bring 1000 rounds into the building? I don't think so. Not even close.Replies: @newyorker, @res, @Buffalo Joe
I wonder if the shooter had a history at local gun ranges. Did you see the picture of the helmet that saved a police officer’s life? http://fox8.com/2016/06/12/police-helmet-saves-officers-life-in-tragic-orlando-shooting/
Even scarier when the bad guys know how to shoot. Does that make a difference with respect to recommending charging the shooter in this scenario?
Damn that was good.
What do you mean? The modern officer corps holds the values of diversity, sexual “assault” prevention and relentless self promotion in very high esteem.
When was America great for Native Born White Americans?...Answer:When America was 90 percent Native Born White American demographically ...like when America put two Alpha Native Born White American Males on the Moon in 1969....Their last names weren't Patel and the first names weren't Sandeep.Replies: @Jack D, @jon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_human_spaceflight_programme
India expects to launch humans into space by 2021, which is probably sooner than the next time the US will have its own human spaceflight capabilities again (all US astronauts are currently riding on Russian rockets).
It’s hard to conceive of alternate histories, but I can’t conceive of an alternate history where the US would have had ZERO non-European immigration post ’65 (and I’m not sure we really would have been better off with ZERO immigration. People’s rosy remembrances of the past don’t include the fact that the US was a much poor country pre-65 – it was common for the entire family to share one bathroom, automobiles were much less reliable, there were 3 TV stations on your blurry black & white TV, most people listened to music on cheap scratchy phonographs (for which they owned a handful of records) or on staticy AM radios, etc. Documents were typed on typewriters, there were few computers, no internet or email or cell phones, etc.) I could however conceive of one where we had real border control and immigrants were selected based upon the likelihood that they and their progeny would be long term net positives to American society. Somehow I think that would not have included 30 million Latinos.
Announce publicly that Muhammad was NOT a prophet and that Islam is NOT true or good.
See what happens.
Leave instructions in advance for your heirs to apprise us of how that went.
What were you saying about Islam being more peaceful again?Replies: @Jack D
I think it was a typo – he meant Religion of Pieces. When Islam is done with you or your country, someone has to go in and pick up the pieces.
No kidding – the logic of “don’t brand Muslims as dangerous because upsetting them causes them to get violent” is the epitome of doublethink.
Compare and contrast the way Christians in America are constantly made fun of by the political and media elites – the worst reaction you might get is an angry post on the Internet or a call into a radio show. Yet they are the ones (particularly if they are white) who are portrayed as troglodytes whose errant ways demand a vigorous and heavy-handed correction courtesy of the federal government.
I lived in pre-1965 America. There was no airport security, no railway security, no X-ray machines, no Government goons pawing through our luggage, no Moslems in hijabs wanding our grandmas or absconding to foreign countries to wage jihad. Our country and our countrymen were high-trust - because we Americans were then One People.
I miss pre-1965 America because Open Borders Perpetual Mass Third World Imminvasion destroyed that America - destroyed that Great America. Today I don't even recognize this country as America, because it's full of and continues to fill up with people who are not American and who never will be American.
Those never-will-be-Americans are why we Americans are now subjects under a police-surveillance-security regime - and those never-will-be-Americans are why today, at every place we Americans go to in what is supposed to be our country, we are now also subjected to private security of every description and level of stringency.
So, yes: let's have a border, and let's police it, let's defend it, let's keep the global hordes of never-will-be-Americans the hell out of OUR country.
It is that simple.Replies: @GOUSAAMER114, @Olorin, @Mark Green, @Jack D
It’s easy to look at the past with rose colored glasses. It’s true that there was little airport security pre-65 (although starting around ’61 hijacking planes to Cuba became an in thing – maybe they should have had more). But not that many people could afford to fly for tourism – for most people it was completely out of reach. You had to walk outside in the rain to get on the plane via slippery metal steps – no jetways. They did feed you though, with real silverware and there was more legroom and the stewardesses were attractive young women, so it wasn’t all bad.
Are there any crime statistics matching victim and killer on the basis of sexual orientation? Is such information even gathered? Whenever an "inner-city" shooting occurs, there's a lot of talk (at least on the Right) about black-on-black crime statistics; are there "gay-on-gay" crime stats (I know that sounds weird)?
It's probably not the right moment to wonder about these things; but it would be interesting to know.Replies: @Triumph104
I have nothing but anecdotes. Violence is rampant among black homosexuals. Around New Orleans when a black educator/preacher/community activist is found murdered along the side of the road at 3am he’s usually been killed by his boy-toy sex partner. On YouTube the stud and lesbian fight videos are blacks. The two WNBA-related shootings (one murder) only involved blacks.
A white DC middle-school principal was murdered in his suburban home after he called a sex-hotline looking for teenage black meat, not sure if his killers were homosexual. Ironically, the previous owner of the home and his daughter were murdered by an intruder who was a mentally ill black man dressed as a woman.
A transsexual from the documentary Paris is Burning was murdered. When a drag queen from the documentary died of AIDS, a mummified dead body with a gunshot wound was found in his/her closet (the irony). It is speculated that the man was killed during a lover’s spat.
Aside: Sometimes homosexual Sheryl Swoopes is head coach of Loyola Chicago’s women’s basketball. Her players have complained of verbal and emotional abuse. After the 2014-2015 season five players left the team. After 2015-2016 season 10 of 13 players left. Swoopes is under investigation. Being a triple minority, Loyola is too scared to just fire her.
Isn’t that that brainchild of that race-porn guy Steve Sailer has written about? The one who has all these sad oppression fantasies involving his grandparents and country clubs, or his own LA childhood, or something?
https://www.unz.com/isteve/matthew-weiner-on-how-mad-men-is-driven-by-his-resentment-of-wasp-country-clubs/
https://www.unz.com/isteve/matthew-weiner-explains-mad-men-is-about-white-power/
http://isteve.blogspot.com/2012/03/bad-men-new-pornography.html
If white advocates are waiting for (((Mad Men))) to “reveal the truth,” then you underscore my point about how the globalista consumer trap works.
But what do I know? I’m so unhip that in my household we’ve had cable for a total 9 months, in 2001 (it came with the house we rented).
I watched the first two seasons of The Wire on DVD, but when they got to the year where they talked about the schools, it triggered my PBSD (post bantu stress disorder) so I stopped for awhile…and never got back to it.
Everything else we ever tried on DVD from cable, I lasted an average of one hour, with a standard deviation of 60 minutes. Some were OK to decent, but I found none worth a share of the shortening span of time between me and the last horizon.
They’re not against borders, barriers and walls, theyre against barriers to their agenda, go to Malibu, they’re all in favor of borders walls and development exclusion (non-invasion) zones.
There would be a lot of non-compliance. Like in New York state, where people in huge numbers neglected to comply with the law. The black market would absolutely boom. It wouldn’t have much effect on the citizenry’s ability to mount an insurgency. Somewhat paradoxically, it would make an insurgency more likely. One, because it’s what tyrants do, and two, because it would have a dramatic impact on people’s ability to defend themselves from criminals.
I expected to hate him for a neocon when he came on the radio in my area. I’d heard little from him prior, and heard a lot of bad about him from WNs and anti-war types. I found him a pleasant surprise. He seems like a rock-solid American patriot, who could use a good sotto voce education from more knowledgeable people. But for a fairly mainstream conservative, he’s far exceeded my expectations. His instincts seem very good. He’s as solid on the border as anyone on the radio, this side of Steyn. I like him much better than Rush. WGAF if he’s pro-Israel? My problem is with the Americans who are more patriotic toward Israel, the leftists who make a huge, unprincipled exception for Israel, etc.
Holy King of the Nonsequiturs, Batman. WTF does one have to do with the other?
Sean Hannity is way more Right Wing than Ron Paul on the issue of immigration, yet most Stormfront White Nationalists love Ron Paul and hate Sean Hannity.
I am always perplexed at how Stormfront White Nationalists give Ron Paul a pass on his Left of center views on immigration.
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/may-2-2011/ron-pauls-new-book-sinks-his-immigration-grade-f.html
Ron Paul is considered a God on Stormfront even though his views on immigration are perfectly aligned with that of Hildabeast, Barack Hussein Obama, Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Eric Holder, Mitt Romney, Chuck Schumer, etc.Replies: @David In TN
Sean went all squishy after the 2012 election, saying we need to pass comprehensive immigration reform or we'll never get those Hispanic votes. This is from 11/08/2012:Sean backed off when his listeners found this not to their liking.
My problem with Sean is that 1.) I don't like the relentlessly annoyed manner of his delivery, which tires me, and 2.) I rarely learn anything from him--he talks about the news, basically. He does have good guests though. What I like about Limbaugh is that he comes out with some real insights occasionally.Replies: @Mr. Anon
For those seeking an alternative to the Cuck-Radio offered by Limbaugh et al, note that Molyneux podcasts all his YouTube videos and the podcasts are available directly from Apple. He routinely (now) discusses group IQ differences, racial violence, welfare and immivasion, etc. He can be a bit overly theatrical and ego-centric, but who isn’t? Molyneux’ faults can be easily overlooked when he’s the only guy out there making explicit and rational arguments for white western civilizational survival. And I think I recently heard him say he just cracked 100,000,000 total downloads/views.
Yes, if Limbaugh isn't egomaniacal enough for you, try Molyneux. His interview with Vox Day was great, though.
I am; I was going to post about him until you beat me to it.
His name is actually Dr. Michael Weiner and he is a 74-year-old ethnomedicinist. #FunFact
Svigor, Interview with a wounded survivor said that the shooter walk amongst the wounded executing them. He also said that he shot the wounded girl next to him with a “shotgun” He may, understandably be confused, as no mention of a shotgun…..but who knows, a second shooter ?
That's a huge gap.
The gap in Columbine was only 45 minutes and caused widespread disgust with the swat team culture.
So this was 180 minutes!!!
First body count was 20 and then it spiked to 50. Absolutely amazing how many kills as a % the shooter was able to pull off. Especially with a full auto weapon which nobody can control well in a firefight. The military only uses full auto to pin down the enemy in order to kill them with artillery or other heavy ordinance.
Witnesses did claim full auto "machine gun" fire.
Did Omar bring 1000 rounds into the building? I don't think so. Not even close.Replies: @newyorker, @res, @Buffalo Joe
Anonymous, An interview with a survivor, said that the shooter walked amongst the wounded executing them.
Yeah, I was like that too until I grew up and learned what their behavior causes from a public health standpoint. You might want to study up a little – their behavior puts my family’s lives at greater risk to a number of diseases including some fatal and incurable, not to mention how their “consenting adult” buggery seems so often a gateway drug into pederasty. I was myself propositioned several times by adult men before I attained adult stature. Note that I’m not by any means condoning what this guy did, but we do need to have a rational adult societal conversation about the danger rampant buggery presents.
So you want to execute all jihadis? Just what, do you suppose, they’ll be doing while we set about your proposed course of action? Perhaps fighting back? Do you think their ratio of moderate:jihadi might increase or decrease when we launch this effort? Currently it seems around 80:20 or 75:25. If that flipped to 25:75, that’s 750,000,000 human lives. No small feat that. And might it not make a wee bit more sense to just expel any within our borders, deny entry to all of them going forward, and stop interfering with them in their homelands? And finally, I deduce you are female from your “husband” reference combined with referring to homos as “them” rather than “us.” This is a pet peeve of mine. You argue for military action but have no skin in the game, like Washington politicians arguing for war but never going themselves into the firefight or sending their sons into battle. War is the business of men. And the decision to enter war ought to be exclusively made by those who risk their *own* lives or the lives of *their* sons. “Lets you and him go fight” has never impressed me favorably from a policy standpoint. So, unless you are volunteering yourself or son to front line infantry in your war of extermination against jihadis, let me quote you one last time:
The M.E. must go through their own civil wars and Reformation, and, the USA could very easily, still withdraw completely from that troublesome part of the world that causes all the grief for humanity.
Many of my family members are/were military, who fought in some bloody, deadly conflicts in Europe/Asia. I am very pro-military, but want USA military out of M.E.....and certainly, not to mess with Russia next - this new distraction annoys me as well - Russia is not a problem.
I think continuing to patrol the seas in troublesome areas is warranted, but I want (and, you seem to agree) no more soldiers going into these M.E. failed states/theocracies because it's pointless, and has been, for 30 years+. There is no benefit; and, energy production everywhere outside of the M.E. proves that.
Lagertha, “Shot up a lot of innocent gay guys”, were there no female victims? I thought I saw footage of some injured/wounded women being attended to.
…or there will be no one left ‘to pick up the pieces’…
My wife and her sister crossed into Canada today to visit Niagara on the Lake, a quaint artsy-fartsy town, and also home to the Shaw Festival. They crossed west at the Peace Bridge and returned at the Queenston-Lewiston Bridge. They had to show passports both times. When we were kids, we are in our 70s now, we used to cross frequently at the Peace Bridge. You were asked your place of birth, your destination,(usually the beach), your length of stay and if you were importing anything into Canada. No ID needed. Canada was like another part of the US, but maybe Canadians didn’t think so. Factory parking lots on the US side had plenty of Canadian license plates and southern Ontario had many factories that were US based companies. Almost borderless. The real difference then and now is that Canada’s population closely resembled America’s population. Similar history, majority same language and culture. We were also allies in two world wars. Canadians still visit WNY to shop, the prices and taxes stateside (even though this is NY) are way lower. Trudeau , the man-child PM, calls for a borderless world and imports 25,000 Syrians and more to come. Toronto is 48% visible minority now. I think Canada has given up on being Canadian. I hope we don’t give up on being American.
“He’s as solid on the border as anyone on the radio, this side of Steyn.”
Sean Hannity is way more Right Wing than Ron Paul on the issue of immigration, yet most Stormfront White Nationalists love Ron Paul and hate Sean Hannity.
I am always perplexed at how Stormfront White Nationalists give Ron Paul a pass on his Left of center views on immigration.
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/may-2-2011/ron-pauls-new-book-sinks-his-immigration-grade-f.html
Ron Paul is considered a God on Stormfront even though his views on immigration are perfectly aligned with that of Hildabeast, Barack Hussein Obama, Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Eric Holder, Mitt Romney, Chuck Schumer, etc.
A fun negative political campaign would be to follow celebrities who endorse Hillary, and video them going in and out of there secure and gated houses and apartment buildings. Hypocrisy is always good for a negative campaign.
I’ve led some corporate junkets in Mexico and the private security with AK’s can be a big shock for those unprepared to see it. So can the armored personnel carriers with federal soldiers in back wearing face masks and helmets and the roadblocks/inspections anywhere along the coasts. Do you recall whether in the mid-1980’s all the walled/gated family compounds had broken glass baked into the tops of the walls?
Left Wingers on social media are saying F the NRA for the Orlando terrorist attacks. That is like saying F airplanes for the 9/11 terrorist attacks and F the juice drink kool-aid for the Jonestown massacre.
IIRC, Columbine was a situation where the shooters remained active and mobile after cops arrived, not took hostages and barricaded themselves and started negotiations.
As for the body count, you seem to think you're in a video game, not the real world. There's no accurate real-time HUD kill counter in the real world. Reports trickle in and often contradict the facts. First they estimated 20, then they counted and the number was higher, then several wounded people died in care.
As for round count, the police said something like 500 rounds were recovered at the scene, including what was expended by the cops during the final shootout. A couple hundred rounds of 5.56 isn't all that heavy. A loaded 30 round mag weighs 1lb, so 300 rounds in mags is about 10lbs. Barely noticeable if it's distributed around a vest. 1k rounds in mags would be 30 lbs, not that bad if it's evenly distributed in a vest, and you aren't running much.Speaking of Somalis, Kenya is about to deport 350k of them back to Somalia, a failed state, but it's okay because Kenya black.A lot of them are gonna spin it by saying "Islam." Much better than saying "anti-homosexual homosexual," I'd guess. Or just punt and blame guns as you suggest.Replies: @Ed
Kenya usually threatens this for more money but this time maybe different. There have been several terrorist attacks by Somalis in Kenya & the people want them gone.
It’s actually not ok with the UN conglomerate and they are desperately trying to stop Kenya with going ahead with the removals.
Bad poll out for Trump in Bloomberg. It appears white women are the weak link & the GOP’s cowardice isn’t helping. Good news is that he gets high marks on terrorism.
For better or worse Trump put the choice before the people. They can decide if being diverse is more important than being safe.
Touche.
I wonder if Steyn could keep up the pace.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @David In TN
Around 1998, I was listening to Rush one day and a caller said something about the problematic nature of massive third world immigration. Limbaugh cut him off and intoned something like “Immigrants help the economy grow and that’s that.”
In the ensuing years, Rush almost never mentioned the issue. Later he mildly criticized Bush 43 for pushing amnesty.but would say Bush “has his job as President and thinks this is right.”
Sometimes Rush would offhanded say massive immigration would wreck the GOP. I haven’t listened to him for 8-9 years.
Sean Hannity is way more Right Wing than Ron Paul on the issue of immigration, yet most Stormfront White Nationalists love Ron Paul and hate Sean Hannity.
I am always perplexed at how Stormfront White Nationalists give Ron Paul a pass on his Left of center views on immigration.
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/may-2-2011/ron-pauls-new-book-sinks-his-immigration-grade-f.html
Ron Paul is considered a God on Stormfront even though his views on immigration are perfectly aligned with that of Hildabeast, Barack Hussein Obama, Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Eric Holder, Mitt Romney, Chuck Schumer, etc.Replies: @David In TN
They, the Political Cesspool, and the Caste Football crowd invested their hopes in Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012. Paul (sometimes) criticized Israel and that’s all it took for that bunch.
Gary Johnson is another politician who is quite Left Wing on the issue of immigration. Yet I have seen White Nationalists on Stormfront say they are going to vote for Gary Johnson because he is the least pro-Israel candidate running for POTUS.
There are White Nationalists on Stormfront who are so obsessed with being anti-Israel that they don't even care about immigration. America turns into a 3rd World hellhole, but hey at least we are not "fighting wars for Israel".Replies: @Marcus, @RadicalCenter
A New York-born Afghan shows up at a dance-club party for homosexual Latinos in central Florida, shoots up the place, and calls 911 to declare his allegiance to the Islamic State in Syria.
You can't make this stuff up.
And yet this is the world we have created for ourselves.Replies: @Lagertha, @ATX Hipster
Steyn is at his best when he’s discussing the absurdities of conflict between protected groups. This one from 2009 is one of his best on that topic:
http://www.macleans.ca/general/the-case-for-the-seeing-eye-horse/
“They, the Political Cesspool, and the Caste Football crowd invested their hopes in Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012. Paul (sometimes) criticized Israel and that’s all it took for that bunch.”
Gary Johnson is another politician who is quite Left Wing on the issue of immigration. Yet I have seen White Nationalists on Stormfront say they are going to vote for Gary Johnson because he is the least pro-Israel candidate running for POTUS.
There are White Nationalists on Stormfront who are so obsessed with being anti-Israel that they don’t even care about immigration. America turns into a 3rd World hellhole, but hey at least we are not “fighting wars for Israel”.
I've always admired Ron Paul as one of the very few consistent, principled, honest, non-corrupt people in Congress, and still do. Voted for him in the GOP primary in 2008 and 2012. Like a million other Ron Paul supporters, I voted Libertarian - Gary Johnson in the general last time. (Don't chew me out, guys, I live in California, hardly a swing state where "the lesser of two evils" argument for the Republican has any chance.)
But how can these guys possibly think that anything resembling libertarianism, or any kind of limited government, can result from the importation of tens of millions of people from very different and somewhat incompatible cultures?
No more Libertarian Party or libertarians for this voter unless I find one who understands that today's immigration determines tomorrow's electorate, and that to a large extent, "demographics is destiny."Replies: @jtgw
Libertarian utopiaReplies: @jon
Exactly. I am embarrassed I ever identified with those clowns.
In the ensuing years, Rush almost never mentioned the issue. Later he mildly criticized Bush 43 for pushing amnesty.but would say Bush "has his job as President and thinks this is right."
Sometimes Rush would offhanded say massive immigration would wreck the GOP. I haven't listened to him for 8-9 years.Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Ivy
If Rush were anti-anti-immigration he would not let Mark Steyn guest-host. (Yes, please substitute “pro” for “anti-anti” if you prefer)
Lycanthropists of the world, unite.
When was America great for Native Born White Americans?...Answer:When America was 90 percent Native Born White American demographically ...like when America put two Alpha Native Born White American Males on the Moon in 1969....Their last names weren't Patel and the first names weren't Sandeep.Replies: @Jack D, @jon
Point of clarification, South Asians aren’t actually all that smart, we just get a small, self-selected group here in the US so it seems that way.
http://www.vdare.com/articles/indians-arent-that-intelligent-on-average
And Southeast Asians aren’t much better.
https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/southeast-asian-iq-scores/
The Asian IQ advantage is really just an East Asian IQ advantage.
But your general point seems well-taken. On average, an Indonesian or Malaysian is not, say, Japanese in terms of measurable intelligence and capacity for sustaining an advanced civilization.
There is also a trace of Inspector Clouseau in the actions of the overall federal effort.
Had Sailer posted a transcript of Bernie Sanders reacting to the Orlando incident by saying, “See- we need to ban teh automatic weapons!!1!1!”… all 153 of the preceding comments would have excoriated the schmuck for whiffing on the basic fact that Omar was carrying a semi.
Yet when Steyn reacts to the shooting by saying we need to control our borders, not one person thinks it salient enough to mention that Omar was born in New Hyde Park?
Also, there is the question of why we let his parents into the country in the 1st place. Past types of immigrants integrated pretty rapidly - you probably don't know how to speak Yiddish any more and attend synagogue lightly if at all, but a lot of 2nd and 3rd generation Muslim immigrants are MORE radicalized and religious than their parents. 2nd and 3rd generation American Jews became doctors and lawyers, 2nd and 3rd generation Mexicans become gang bangers and La Raza advocates.Replies: @Brutusale
High walls with broken glass on the top predate the 1980s in parts of South America. They were ahead of their time, or maybe just signaling what would happen eventually in El Norte.
In the ensuing years, Rush almost never mentioned the issue. Later he mildly criticized Bush 43 for pushing amnesty.but would say Bush "has his job as President and thinks this is right."
Sometimes Rush would offhanded say massive immigration would wreck the GOP. I haven't listened to him for 8-9 years.Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Ivy
Rush should have been convicted for his Oxy issues, and why he wasn’t just seems like a miscarriage of justice in my opinion. Joe citizen probably would have been sent down for years in a similar situation.
He’s as solid on the border as anyone on the radio
Sean went all squishy after the 2012 election, saying we need to pass comprehensive immigration reform or we’ll never get those Hispanic votes. This is from 11/08/2012:
Sean backed off when his listeners found this not to their liking.
My problem with Sean is that 1.) I don’t like the relentlessly annoyed manner of his delivery, which tires me, and 2.) I rarely learn anything from him–he talks about the news, basically. He does have good guests though. What I like about Limbaugh is that he comes out with some real insights occasionally.
I heard his ratings dropped pretty steeply, so - as you said - he wised up.
I don't like Hannity much, but I really don't understand what hold Bill O'Reilly has on his viewers. He's a smirking, smug, unlikeable defender of the status-quo. A lot of what he says would not be out of place in the editorial pages of the New York Times (well, they're all editorial pages, but you know what I mean). I understand that his viewership is quite old, with the median age being around 70. I guess he reminds them of that clean-cut young man who runs their nursing home.
He can be a bit overly theatrical and ego-centric
Yes, if Limbaugh isn’t egomaniacal enough for you, try Molyneux. His interview with Vox Day was great, though.
The issues here are the homophobia, the unhinged, and the gun, not islam.
The truth is that Islam is a more peaceful religion than ChristianityReplies: @jewsrrealracist, @Jefferson, @helena, @Unladen Swallow, @RadicalCenter, @Mr. Anon
“The truth is that Islam is a more peaceful religion than Christianity”
Yeah, that’s why its founder – according to the Koran itself – was a warlord who carried out massacres. You know – just like Jesus is reputed to have done.
Sean went all squishy after the 2012 election, saying we need to pass comprehensive immigration reform or we'll never get those Hispanic votes. This is from 11/08/2012:Sean backed off when his listeners found this not to their liking.
My problem with Sean is that 1.) I don't like the relentlessly annoyed manner of his delivery, which tires me, and 2.) I rarely learn anything from him--he talks about the news, basically. He does have good guests though. What I like about Limbaugh is that he comes out with some real insights occasionally.Replies: @Mr. Anon
“Sean backed off when his listeners found this not to their liking.”
I heard his ratings dropped pretty steeply, so – as you said – he wised up.
I don’t like Hannity much, but I really don’t understand what hold Bill O’Reilly has on his viewers. He’s a smirking, smug, unlikeable defender of the status-quo. A lot of what he says would not be out of place in the editorial pages of the New York Times (well, they’re all editorial pages, but you know what I mean). I understand that his viewership is quite old, with the median age being around 70. I guess he reminds them of that clean-cut young man who runs their nursing home.
Tim Cook is known for refusing requests to help the Feds get access to terrorist iPhones.
Will that happen this time? http://m.theage.com.au/world/orlando-gunman-omar-mateen-had-used-gay-dating-app-visited-pulse-nightclub-witnesses-say-20160614-gpieye.html
"FBI agents scrambled on Monday to recover data from Mateen's electronic media - mobile phones, computers and other devices…"
Will the murder of gays out-Pokemon privacy?Replies: @Mr. Anon
“Tim Cook is known for refusing requests to help the Feds get access to terrorist iPhones.”
Some people have claimed that the whole Apple / Federal Government standoff was a crock. That the Feds had other ways of cracking the phones, or that Apple really did help them but pretended not to. I don’t know if that is true or not, but I don’t think it’s implausible.
The guy was an American citizen, so it isn’t clear how border security would have helped. Instead, we could try crazy things like getting out of the Middle East and declaring neutrality in all foreign disputes. But that wouldn’t go over too well with neocons like Steyn.
In such a scenario we would switch from the kind of "governmental legitimacy" we have come to take for granted in the west, to a law of the jungle, might makes right, unilateral invasion type of government power if governments were to continue to exist in anything like their current form in a "borderless world."Replies: @ben tillman
“A borderless country” = “the whole world”. The goal is for such a government to exercise power everywhere.
You sound like an ass.
Yet when Steyn reacts to the shooting by saying we need to control our borders, not one person thinks it salient enough to mention that Omar was born in New Hyde Park?Replies: @Jack D, @ben tillman
Apparently, at one point during the rampage, Omar had a conversation with a black guy in which he indicated that he had nothing against blacks because they had not attacked “my country”, by which he apparently meant Afghanistan. So Omar thought of himself as an Afghan Muslim, not an American. If you had helpfully pointed out to him that he was really a natural born American citizen, he would have been insulted and shot you too.
Also, there is the question of why we let his parents into the country in the 1st place. Past types of immigrants integrated pretty rapidly – you probably don’t know how to speak Yiddish any more and attend synagogue lightly if at all, but a lot of 2nd and 3rd generation Muslim immigrants are MORE radicalized and religious than their parents. 2nd and 3rd generation American Jews became doctors and lawyers, 2nd and 3rd generation Mexicans become gang bangers and La Raza advocates.
“The Party at the End of the World” indeed! Someone posted that Mark Steyn show. The parts I heard were very good. Him subbing for Limbaugh on Monday.
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In several of my earlier posts I go into detail about the beginning of the Jihadist/Islamist movement in the late 80’s (not all the way back to the 60’s when the ideas started) in Afghanistan, under OBL’ s leadership. Thousands of Jihadies flocked there (from various Muslim nations). During the Bosnia crisis, they flocked there to fight the Serbs. Jihadism metastasized during this time: they were getting results. These men really believe that a Caliphate can evolve, even if it takes millennia…they are part of a long-chain of death-culture martyrs…so creepy.
So, while I totally agree that massive immigration is out-of-control, I am skeptical that this was a large-scale “encouragement policy,” by elites and MSM because Jihadism started in the 80’s, way before people started jumping on rickety boats to pour into Europe (or stick their children on crappy trains bound for the U.S. border in S.A.). In fact; Al Qaeda was supposed to mean “the web,” some-kind of name inspired be the www.
Of course, now the groups of people you mention, are totally fine with this influx of 3rd worlders, but it is not gonna “work out” for them and their descendants either. I think I have exposed my Hobbesian view with my rants about animals & the environment to suggest that unfettered immigration of people who fail to integrate (there’s enough stats on that) in host countries, is epic fail. I am a EU citizen, so I have seen this.
My idea is fairly simple: when everyone in the world got access to a lap top or iPhone, they realized their life sucked in the 3rd world somewhere. They saw how wonderful the lives of Europeans, North Americans, Australia/NZders are. So, naturally, they feel that why not go there to see if they can find a job/education/life/wife. And, we all know the results are sub-par, or epic fail. There are not enough simple jobs in the EU anymore, the cultural differences are too much (women’s rights, etc.) and taxpayers in EU and other countries can’t afford to just pay for massive amounts of people going on welfare – the rich already pay a lot more, and, they are fleeing to tax-free/low-tax lands. But, the conundrum we have is: how can we stop poor people from streaming into prosperous, organized, rule-of-law countries? I don’t see a solution for this. Massive over-population (and pollution/new diseases) will eventually destroy the earth as resources dwindle and cooperation collapses.
yeah, there are. I wrote that when the first 5 victims (all male) were named. And, the few that were carried out, were male, or appeared male. Of course, straight women do go into gay bars to dance and just have fun, but at the time the cameras were rolling, I didn’t see any females.
I have long expected a cyber warfare to go full-throttle to crush the supply lines/oil trucks/money/destroy the websites/disable all IT of the Jihadies. I want the families of ISIS joiners to be deported. PC culture has prevented a “full-throttle” approach (plus obvious civilian deaths as a result), but now there may be renewed interest. I am a fan of isolationism and withdrawing from the M.E. completely, long before 9/11, long before Afghanistan in the 80’s. The first time I witnessed terrorism (ok, so it was on TV) was watching the Munich Olympics when the Israeli athletes were killed…particularly, saw bodies thrown out of balconies – it was live feed….oops…my kid brain could not compute that horror.
The M.E. must go through their own civil wars and Reformation, and, the USA could very easily, still withdraw completely from that troublesome part of the world that causes all the grief for humanity.
Many of my family members are/were military, who fought in some bloody, deadly conflicts in Europe/Asia. I am very pro-military, but want USA military out of M.E…..and certainly, not to mess with Russia next – this new distraction annoys me as well – Russia is not a problem.
I think continuing to patrol the seas in troublesome areas is warranted, but I want (and, you seem to agree) no more soldiers going into these M.E. failed states/theocracies because it’s pointless, and has been, for 30 years+. There is no benefit; and, energy production everywhere outside of the M.E. proves that.
WaPo has a memorial page to the victims, about a half dozen females, overwhelmingly Latino males.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/orlando-shooting/victims/?tid=a_inl
Gary Johnson is another politician who is quite Left Wing on the issue of immigration. Yet I have seen White Nationalists on Stormfront say they are going to vote for Gary Johnson because he is the least pro-Israel candidate running for POTUS.
There are White Nationalists on Stormfront who are so obsessed with being anti-Israel that they don't even care about immigration. America turns into a 3rd World hellhole, but hey at least we are not "fighting wars for Israel".Replies: @Marcus, @RadicalCenter
Ron Paul has also been railing against “fascism” lately and calls Trump a dangerous “authoritarian.” Johnson is attacking Trump for wanting to deport illegals, build a wall, and force companies to manufacture here. Also he seems to think that Trump cares about him for some reason….
Also, there is the question of why we let his parents into the country in the 1st place. Past types of immigrants integrated pretty rapidly - you probably don't know how to speak Yiddish any more and attend synagogue lightly if at all, but a lot of 2nd and 3rd generation Muslim immigrants are MORE radicalized and religious than their parents. 2nd and 3rd generation American Jews became doctors and lawyers, 2nd and 3rd generation Mexicans become gang bangers and La Raza advocates.Replies: @Brutusale
Funny how these striving Dreamers coming to America, like Mateen’s father and Clock Boy’s dad, seem to think of this country as a launch point for campaigning to become their real homeland’s leader!
Yet when Steyn reacts to the shooting by saying we need to control our borders, not one person thinks it salient enough to mention that Omar was born in New Hyde Park?Replies: @Jack D, @ben tillman
A ban on Muslim immigration would have prevented him from being born in New Hyde Park.
And we could try other crazy things like eliminating birth-right citizenship or not letting crazy Muslims in to have children in the first place.
Gary Johnson is another politician who is quite Left Wing on the issue of immigration. Yet I have seen White Nationalists on Stormfront say they are going to vote for Gary Johnson because he is the least pro-Israel candidate running for POTUS.
There are White Nationalists on Stormfront who are so obsessed with being anti-Israel that they don't even care about immigration. America turns into a 3rd World hellhole, but hey at least we are not "fighting wars for Israel".Replies: @Marcus, @RadicalCenter
You’re right on.
I’ve always admired Ron Paul as one of the very few consistent, principled, honest, non-corrupt people in Congress, and still do. Voted for him in the GOP primary in 2008 and 2012. Like a million other Ron Paul supporters, I voted Libertarian – Gary Johnson in the general last time. (Don’t chew me out, guys, I live in California, hardly a swing state where “the lesser of two evils” argument for the Republican has any chance.)
But how can these guys possibly think that anything resembling libertarianism, or any kind of limited government, can result from the importation of tens of millions of people from very different and somewhat incompatible cultures?
No more Libertarian Party or libertarians for this voter unless I find one who understands that today’s immigration determines tomorrow’s electorate, and that to a large extent, “demographics is destiny.”
I do see the threat of further loss of liberty if we give government more powers to catch and deport illegal immigrants; we already have many opportunities to deal with illegal immigrants in a way that reduces the size and scope of government. For example, why are states forced to provide benefits to illegal residents? Why does the federal government subsidize cities that declare they will not comply with federal immigration law? I can get on board with measures to correct these errors, but not ones that, say, mandate every employer verify his employees through a federal database. We want less centralization and policing, not more.
http://www.vdare.com/articles/indians-arent-that-intelligent-on-average
And Southeast Asians aren't much better.
https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/southeast-asian-iq-scores/
The Asian IQ advantage is really just an East Asian IQ advantage.Replies: @RadicalCenter
Well, my wife is Filipina — not East or North Asian — and pretty dang smart. In addition to her two native languages (Tagalog and Visayan), she speaks English better than some native-born Americans, and is learning some German.
But your general point seems well-taken. On average, an Indonesian or Malaysian is not, say, Japanese in terms of measurable intelligence and capacity for sustaining an advanced civilization.
I've always admired Ron Paul as one of the very few consistent, principled, honest, non-corrupt people in Congress, and still do. Voted for him in the GOP primary in 2008 and 2012. Like a million other Ron Paul supporters, I voted Libertarian - Gary Johnson in the general last time. (Don't chew me out, guys, I live in California, hardly a swing state where "the lesser of two evils" argument for the Republican has any chance.)
But how can these guys possibly think that anything resembling libertarianism, or any kind of limited government, can result from the importation of tens of millions of people from very different and somewhat incompatible cultures?
No more Libertarian Party or libertarians for this voter unless I find one who understands that today's immigration determines tomorrow's electorate, and that to a large extent, "demographics is destiny."Replies: @jtgw
I find this kind of argument a little weird, given that libertarianism has never been that popular. We have this national self-image of being rugged individualists, but the reality is anything but. I’m not saying that mass immigration is somehow a cure for statism, either, but I am very skeptical of the notion that closing the borders is going to magically cause the repeal of the welfare state and the withdrawal of our troops from foreign entanglements.
I do see the threat of further loss of liberty if we give government more powers to catch and deport illegal immigrants; we already have many opportunities to deal with illegal immigrants in a way that reduces the size and scope of government. For example, why are states forced to provide benefits to illegal residents? Why does the federal government subsidize cities that declare they will not comply with federal immigration law? I can get on board with measures to correct these errors, but not ones that, say, mandate every employer verify his employees through a federal database. We want less centralization and policing, not more.
How is forcing companies to manufacture here NOT authoritarian? Maybe we should be asking ourselves why businesses are reluctant to locate here, rather than punishing them for choosing other jurisdictions? E.g. consider that we have the highest corporate income tax rate in the developed world. Does that have anything to do with it, perchance?