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Back in the early 1990s, Susan Faludi was, along with Naomi Wolf, a feminist poster girl for the post-Clarence Thomas Year of the Woman in politics that, in order to fight the plague of sexual harassment in the workplace, elected as President … Bill Clinton.

Faludi’s 1991 book Backlash: The Undeclared War Against American Women was a huge bestseller as part of the frontlash that put Bill in the White House. Granted, it was kind of lame and lowbrow, although not as dopey as Naomi Wolf’s book The Beauty Myth, but that’s what elite opinion wanted at the time.

Since then Faludi’s career has been rather low profile with only three more books, in part, I like to imagine because she’s actually, like Susan Brownmiller, kind of a good person and has had qualms and second thoughts about simply churning out Feminist Red Meat. Her 1999 book Stiffed: The Betrayal of the American Man, for example, was more sympathetic to Average Joes than had been expected.

Now she has a memoir, In the Darkroom, about her father that sounds like a useful addition to the literature of transsexualism. We have quite a few (not necessarily plausible) memoirs by various writers who decided in later life to announce that, even while fathering all those children, they were always women on the inside. (This has hardened into an ideological orthodoxy that you publicly question at some peril to your career.)

But now we have one from a writer whose father has made such a claim.

From the Belfast Press:

Susan Faludi: The feminist whose violent dad told her he’d never been that macho and was becoming a woman

By Eilis O’Hanlon

Big change: Susan Faludi has written about her father going through reassignment surgery

In early 2004, Susan Faludi, author of the feminist manifesto Backlash, received an email from her father, Steven, revealing that “he” was now a “she”, having undergone gender reassignment surgery in Thailand. The news didn’t come as a total surprise. Faludi had heard rumours that the father to whom she’d barely spoken in 25 years had been exploring this option, but it was definitely a shock in one other sense.

“I’d always known my father to assert the male prerogative. He had seemed invested – insistently, inflexibly, and, in the last year of our family life, bloodily – in being the household despot. For as far back as I could remember, he had presided as imperious patriarch, overbearing and autocratic, even as he remained a cipher, cryptic to everyone around him.”

I’ve known one high achieving man who later announced he was transgender, and when I knew him he was widely considered the biggest prick around. Perhaps it’s a pattern among autogynephilic late-in-life transsexuals?

Now, suddenly, here he was announcing his pristine identity as a woman called Stefanie, declaring: “I have had enough of impersonating a macho aggressive man that I have never been inside.”

Soon Faludi is headed to Budapest, where her Hungarian-born father had decamped after his erratic, violent behaviour led to divorce from Faludi’s mother, to investigate this cipher further, intending, she admits, to draw up a charge sheet against him. “I wasn’t sure I was ready to release him to a new identity; she hadn’t explained the old one.”

This mindful switch between pronouns becomes a feature of the book. Faludi carefully uses “she” and “her”, even while wracked with doubt about her father’s new persona, not least when, in the middle of a disagreement, that old prerogative reasserts itself: “I am still your father”.

This father figure, what’s more, was always an adept liar and fraudster whose lifelong credo has been “getting away with it”.

A professional photographer by trade, her father was skilled at manipulating images, and Stefanie makes herself no easier to know than Steven, declaring herself to be uninterested in the past, only the future.

Is this, the author wonders, just her father’s latest guise behind which to hide the true self? If so, it’s not one she finds particularly edifying.

Faludi wants to understand her father, but finds that “every road into the interior was blocked by a cardboard cut-out of florid femininity”. The author takes refuge in the literature, and talks to doctors, psychologists, and other trans people, but much of what she learns heightens her disquiet. Far from enabling her to understand her father, her investigations “were having the opposite effect”.

What’s more, a disturbing edge of sexual fetishism always seemed to be lurking just below the surface. She notes that it’s one of the basic tenets of transgenderism that identity and sexuality are different things, but Faludi finds them constantly conflated.

“The transformation from one gender to another was eroticised at every step.”

Here’s a fine 2007 New York Times article about the war that various super-high IQ late-in-life transgender types like Donald/Deirdre McCloskey along the with SPLC, always sniffing out new sources of revenue, conducted against scientists who were disclosing to the public the role a particular sexual fetish plays in the highest profile type of transgenderism.

The screensaver on her father’s computer is of Stefanie dressed as a French maid, with blonde curls like Susan’s as a child, reaching down to adjust a stocking, while the ‘How To’ manuals advise those who think of themselves as women to “practise submission with sex toys in front of a mirror”.

… As Faludi says, the trend since Freud has been to accept that the real psychological origins for a person’s behaviour are complex, often hidden deeply from plain sight, but a fear of giving offence to those who identify as transgender has meant that there is no equivalent examination of the range of reasons why a human being might feel they are in the “wrong” body.

Accepting their own self-diagnosis without question might avoid confrontation with those for whom transgenderism is a matter of faith, but it does so at the expense of intellectual honesty. What if they’re actually “seeking womanhood to reclaim [their] innocence, be exonerated from the sins of a male past”, or “craving the moral stature that comes from being oppressed”? Or simply wanting to be a woman to “feel special, celebrated, loved”?

The book culminates in a shocking scene, when her father finally talks about the time when, outraged by her desire to attend a Christian summer camp with a friend, he burst into the teenage Faludi’s bedroom and repeatedly bashed her head against the floor, shouting: “I created you. And I can destroy you.”

I always assumed over the last quarter of a century that Faludi was of Italian Catholic ancestry. You learn something new every day.

She asks if he remembers what he said.

“I remember exactly what I said,” her father replies. “That they exterminated the Jews, and how could you do this?” Faludi concludes: “I didn’t correct her. Whatever the actual words, I understood this is what they meant to her.” She reaches over, squeezes her father’s hand, and says: “It’s okay.”

The scene is presented as a touching moment of bonding and forgiveness, but it’s genuinely horrifying.

I haven’t read the book, but it sounds like another example of a widespread pattern in postwar feminism: bright Jewish daughter grows up angry (sometimes with good reason, as in Susan Faludi’s case) at at least one member of her Jewish family. But she learns that she’ll be rewarded if she generalizes and intellectualizes her resentment toward a Jewish relative into blaming her animus on Society or Men or Stereotypes or anti-Semites or whatever it is that gentiles can be badgered into feeling guilty about.

White guilt is the worry that your ancestors were too ethnocentric; Jewish guilt, as I learned from reading Philip Roth, is the worry that you aren’t ethnocentric enough for your ancestors.

Jewish guilt turns out to be more personally useful.

 
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  1. Best song ever written about Naomi wolf.

  2. His violence suggests he had higher than average testosterone levels when he was young. Then when he aged the testosterone level fell quickly. Bruce Jenner would have gone through the same process.

    Maybe athletes and thugs are more likely than average to suffer late onset gender dysphoria.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    His violence suggests he had higher than average testosterone levels when he was young. Then when he aged the testosterone level fell quickly. Bruce Jenner would have gone through the same process.

    Maybe athletes and thugs are more likely than average to suffer late onset gender dysphoria.
     
    Standard issue autogynephilia. It's what happens when transvestism no longer does the trick.
    , @SFG
    Yeah, my guess would be something like 'a high level of testosterone means a high level of aromatase [which turns testosterone into estrogen] gets produced, but then testosterone falls in old age without the aromatase being successfully downregulated, resulting in lots of free estrogen floating around, leading the guy to think he's a gal'. Crap like that happens all the time in disease states--cancer's in large part a matter of too many growth-promoting genes getting turned on and too many growth-suppressing genes getting turned off.

    You could probably do the study pretty easily, but you'd never get funding.

    , @Alec Leamas
    I don't think testosterone works that way unless it is administered artificially, causing the glands that produce it naturally to atrophy. Otherwise it is a slow and steady decline if undisturbed by an increase in lean muscle mass and/or support from one's diet.

    I think it was iSteve himself who pointed out Jenner's significant weight gain and concomitant increase in athletic performance over the course of four years between Olympics, suggesting the administration of some steroids during his competitive years.

    Also, publicly available pictures I've been able to find of a younger Mr. Faludi don't seem all that butch - more of a nebbish type with a sunken chest and without particularly masculine facial characteristics.
    , @Njguy73
    It's not gender dysphoria. It's not autogynephilia.

    It's careerism.

    These men are realizing that it's not cool to be a overbearing man, but way cool to be an overbearing woman. Just making a lateral move. No different than a catcher with bad knees moving to first base to keep his bat in the lineup.

    These men don't care what gender/race/religion/whatever they are part of, just so long as it's the one with the upper hand.

    They are, as Faludi described her former dad, "ciphers, cryptic to everyone around them.” They are whatever you want them to be.
  3. The CNBC journalist Katy Tur’s father had gender reassignment I have read. She comes across as very nice.

    • Replies: @Ragno
    Both Bob Tur and the other Flyin' Tranny (Dirk Vahle) come off, pre and post makeover-pix, as two mostly-insufferable swaggering pricks. Literally and figuratively. In both cases, these Profiles in Courage have shown no balls to live with ......uhh.....no balls.

    (And when are we going to stop letting these Castration Cowards off the hook? Over the last few years, we've been lectured endlessly about what to call - and never to call - these deeply-aberrational defectives....well, we could use a term that refers to shameless attention whores who insist on announcing their New Gender Status with a flounce of petticoats and 'glamour' pix, but who otherwise refuse to put their money where their meat is and LOP OFF THE OFFENDING ORGAN. As far as I'm concerned, a "woman" with a functioning penis is just an ugly man in a dress.)

    You're never going to win World War T with nothing but conscientious objectors, Mr President. For which , thank God.
    , @tbraton
    As a regular watcher of NBC Nightly News (force of habit), I am highly amused that they have apparently assigned Katy Tur to cover the Donald Trump campaign. I wonder if her old boy friend, Keith Olberman, who dated Tur for several years, is contemplating sex change surgery. He seems a likely candidate since he is so macho.
  4. ‘… But she learns that she’ll be rewarded if she generalizes and intellectualizes her resentment of a Jewish relative into blaming Society or Men or Stereotypes or anti-Semites or whatever it is that Gentiles can be made to feel guilty about…’

    Again? Aren’t you worried Steve that say 20 years from now you’ll decide to become Jewish? I’m extrapolating from what you’ve written about transsexuals, but not extrapolating too much.

    • Replies: @SFG
    He writes long, thoughtful essays about random intellectual and political topics.

    He'd probably actually make a really good secular Jew.
    , @syonredux

    ‘… But she learns that she’ll be rewarded if she generalizes and intellectualizes her resentment of a Jewish relative into blaming Society or Men or Stereotypes or anti-Semites or whatever it is that Gentiles can be made to feel guilty about…’

    Again? Aren’t you worried Steve that say 20 years from now you’ll decide to become Jewish? I’m extrapolating from what you’ve written about transsexuals, but not extrapolating too much.
     
    Dunno, dear fellow. Last time I checked, "conversion to Judaism" wasn't in the paraphilia catalogue....
    , @Anonymous
    If you are a long-time reader of iSteve, you will remember that Steve is adopted, and quite possibly Jewish.
  5. “Gentiles can be made to feel guilty about …”: you can’t make this gentile feel guilty about anything, except for a few of my own acts. I simply don’t understand this generalised “guilt” thing at all.

  6. Given the middle age onset of TG, I suppose it must be related to a lessening of the libido, which in turn seeks an outlet by auto-eroticism. That’s the only explanation for autogynephilia that makes sense to me. For those of us who are irredeemably straight, it helps to have a spouse who still enjoys you, exercise, and, of course, the pills I have heard about.

    I don’t really want to comment on the rest. I don’t believe in writing about your family in such detail, particularly in a case like this. I suppose it’s self-therapy but there’s an element of shamelessness in it that reminds me of celebrity autobiographies.

  7. @jimmyriddle
    His violence suggests he had higher than average testosterone levels when he was young. Then when he aged the testosterone level fell quickly. Bruce Jenner would have gone through the same process.

    Maybe athletes and thugs are more likely than average to suffer late onset gender dysphoria.

    His violence suggests he had higher than average testosterone levels when he was young. Then when he aged the testosterone level fell quickly. Bruce Jenner would have gone through the same process.

    Maybe athletes and thugs are more likely than average to suffer late onset gender dysphoria.

    Standard issue autogynephilia. It’s what happens when transvestism no longer does the trick.

  8. White guilt is worrying that your ancestors were too ethnocentric; Jewish guilt is worrying that you aren’t ethnocentric enough for your ancestors.

    Philip Roth is a good example. Just chart the progress from “Defender of the Faith” (which got him trouble with the Jewish community) to The Plot Against America. In the former, he’s mildly critical of Jewish ethnocentrism. In the latter, he’s fantasizing about about Christian America slaughtering Jews….

  9. @anony-mouse
    '... But she learns that she’ll be rewarded if she generalizes and intellectualizes her resentment of a Jewish relative into blaming Society or Men or Stereotypes or anti-Semites or whatever it is that Gentiles can be made to feel guilty about...'

    Again? Aren't you worried Steve that say 20 years from now you'll decide to become Jewish? I'm extrapolating from what you've written about transsexuals, but not extrapolating too much.

    He writes long, thoughtful essays about random intellectual and political topics.

    He’d probably actually make a really good secular Jew.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "He writes long, thoughtful essays about random intellectual and political topics.

    He’d probably actually make a really good secular Jew."

    So Steve is not even a little bit Jewish like a quarter?
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson

    He’d probably actually make a really good secular Jew.
     
    Only if he moved to Israel.
  10. If they’d had gender reassignment back in 33 AD, would we have an apostle Paula now?

    • Replies: @SFG
    Gender reassignment would change history beyond recognition--think of all the young men who would change sex to avoid fighting in wars. (They wouldn't cut their dicks off to save their lives? Guys get penectomies for penile cancer, don't they?)
  11. @jimmyriddle
    His violence suggests he had higher than average testosterone levels when he was young. Then when he aged the testosterone level fell quickly. Bruce Jenner would have gone through the same process.

    Maybe athletes and thugs are more likely than average to suffer late onset gender dysphoria.

    Yeah, my guess would be something like ‘a high level of testosterone means a high level of aromatase [which turns testosterone into estrogen] gets produced, but then testosterone falls in old age without the aromatase being successfully downregulated, resulting in lots of free estrogen floating around, leading the guy to think he’s a gal’. Crap like that happens all the time in disease states–cancer’s in large part a matter of too many growth-promoting genes getting turned on and too many growth-suppressing genes getting turned off.

    You could probably do the study pretty easily, but you’d never get funding.

  12. @anony-mouse
    '... But she learns that she’ll be rewarded if she generalizes and intellectualizes her resentment of a Jewish relative into blaming Society or Men or Stereotypes or anti-Semites or whatever it is that Gentiles can be made to feel guilty about...'

    Again? Aren't you worried Steve that say 20 years from now you'll decide to become Jewish? I'm extrapolating from what you've written about transsexuals, but not extrapolating too much.

    ‘… But she learns that she’ll be rewarded if she generalizes and intellectualizes her resentment of a Jewish relative into blaming Society or Men or Stereotypes or anti-Semites or whatever it is that Gentiles can be made to feel guilty about…’

    Again? Aren’t you worried Steve that say 20 years from now you’ll decide to become Jewish? I’m extrapolating from what you’ve written about transsexuals, but not extrapolating too much.

    Dunno, dear fellow. Last time I checked, “conversion to Judaism” wasn’t in the paraphilia catalogue….

    • Replies: @SFG
    It's not disturbing to functioning in society the way being attracted to children or lighting fires is--you convert and that's it. Sadomasochism isn't even considered necessarily disordered anymore, now that 50 Shades of Grey has sold millions of copies.
    , @Glaivester
    Because you don't do it for the erotic thrill, you do it for the jokes. Don't you remember the Seinfeld episode?
  13. burst into the teenage Faludi’s bedroom and repeatedly bashed her head against the floor, shouting: “I created you. And I can destroy you.”

    That joke seemed so much more charming when Cliff Huxtable made it on The Cosby Show. It’s all in the delivery, I think.

    • Replies: @gruff
    Cosby used the joke on one of his early standup LPs in the 60s. It's probably even older.
    , @Big Bill
    Recycled Bill Cosby stand-up act, ca. 1965. On one of his albums, Bill has his father yell, "I brought you into this world. I can take you out."
    , @Anon
    This line dates back at least to Gogol's "Taras Bulba."
  14. Faludi on her parents:

    Ms. Faludi describes her own mother, Marilyn, now studying for her master’s in Victorian literature at New York University at age 69, as ”a Village person, a bohemian,” who gave up her career as an editor to be a 1950’s housewife, albeit an unconventional one. While other mothers went grocery shopping, she would take Susan and her younger brother, Robert, on field trips to the meatpacking district, the Fulton Fish Market, even the dry cleaner. They would stroll under the West Side Highway, because, Ms. Faludi said, ”my mother loves rubble.”

    ”She had a desire to show her children behind the scenes,” she continued, ”not just the cleaned-up, sanitized version of life.”

    She credits her mother with kindling her concern about social issues. Her father, Steven, who now lives in Budapest (her parents divorced when she was 17), was an only child whose family was largely eradicated in the Holocaust. He spent his early adolescence hiding from the Nazis in a safe house in Budapest. Although the men in her book open their souls to her, her descriptions of her own father, who has returned to Hungary to attend to unfinished emotional business, are surprisingly muted. ”Like many Holocaust survivors, he has so much not to talk about,” she said. ”He lost his inheritance, his country, his patrimony.’

    http://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/21/garden/at-home-with-susan-faludi-and-russ-rymer-sympathy-for-men-empathy-with-one.html?pagewanted=all

  15. It really seems that in recent years a remarkable fraction of our most influential public intellectuals have come from families with seemingly hereditary mental illness…

    Maybe that explains some of the odder aspects of our current society…

    • Replies: @SFG
    I agree 100%. But I do wonder if this is all that new or if people are just more open about mental illness nowadays. Writers were always known as being 'neurasthenic' types, and the macho writers of midcentury were notorious alcoholics.
    , @newrouter
    These days, I tend to follow a "non crazy Jew": Jesus.
    , @JDG1980

    It really seems that in recent years a remarkable fraction of our most influential public intellectuals have come from families with seemingly hereditary mental illness…
     
    I think people with very high IQs (say, above 140) are much more likely to be non-neurotypical. That's fine in STEM, but when it comes to the social sciences, we'd probably be better off if our public intellectuals were a bit more normal - even if they were just a bit less clever.
    , @Lot

    It really seems that in recent years a remarkable fraction of our most influential public intellectuals have come from families with seemingly hereditary mental illness…
     
    Based on anecdotes like this? In reality mental illness has a strong inverse correlation with socioeconomic status. Professional writers might be more likely to have mental problems than other high IQ people simply because it allows them to avoid 9-5 workplaces.
    , @Wade
    Rather than characterizing it as an "odder aspect of our current society" might it be a little more to the point to say it is a predictable outcome of a society that is in decline? The USA's only moral imperative anymore seems to be the epicurean 'pursuit of pleasure/avoidance of pain' mantra. Moral people realize that suffering is a normal and healthy part of life too. Without it how could parenting take place?

    Americans don't like leaders who are mentally ill. We're just too caught up in epicurean pursuits to take real any real corrective action. So we allow the crazies to bubble up through the cracks and go right to the top.
  16. SFG says:

    “bright Jewish daughter grows up angry (sometimes with good reason, as in Susan Faludi’s case) at at least one member of her Jewish family. But she learns that she’ll be rewarded if she generalizes and intellectualizes her resentment of a Jewish relative into blaming her animus on Society or Men or Stereotypes or anti-Semites or whatever it is that gentiles can be badgered into feeling guilty about.”

    There’s a lot to this, but I wonder if it was also at least in part an unfortunate side effect of having a larger than average crop of 120+ IQ women who weren’t going to find mothering intellectually stimulating enough *plus* a tendency toward intellectual leftism since the right was historically the more anti-Semitic side *plus* a lack of value on traditional masculinity since Jewish men didn’t engage in physical occupations historically.

    I mean, feminists really do believe their own BS–they engage in behaviors repulsive to men and encourage each other not to reproduce, which doesn’t sound to me like a very evolutionarily successful strategy. It’s got to be a side product of something else. (And I doubt Kevin MacDonald’s ideas apply here, since there’s no evidence Jewish feminists spawn any more than gentile ones. Mercifully.)

    BTW, ever wonder why there’s so much intermarriage? 😉

    • Replies: @Nico

    I doubt Kevin MacDonald’s ideas apply here, since there’s no evidence Jewish feminists spawn any more than gentile ones. Mercifully.
     
    Numerically or proportionately? I think the question of relative contribution is relevant here.

    I also think that there are a number of strictly biological correlations and parallels to the phenomenon MacDonald lay out. If MacDonald were to write a sequel to The Culture of Critique he should collaborate with an evolutionary behavioral geneticist and a social historian to trace the reduction of the Jewish gene pool in the wake of mass conversions to Christianity during the final centuries of the Roman Empire.


    BTW, ever wonder why there’s so much intermarriage?
     
    One of my good friends - a Protestant - from second-year in school told me about watching Fiddler on the Roof with several Jewish friends back during adolescence. One of the girls was distraught: "How come the only pretty girl in the film was the Christian?!"

    My friend didn't have the heart to answer the question but she had no qualms acknowledging to me the truth.

  17. @Ron Unz
    It really seems that in recent years a remarkable fraction of our most influential public intellectuals have come from families with seemingly hereditary mental illness...

    Maybe that explains some of the odder aspects of our current society...

    I agree 100%. But I do wonder if this is all that new or if people are just more open about mental illness nowadays. Writers were always known as being ‘neurasthenic’ types, and the macho writers of midcentury were notorious alcoholics.

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    Maybe it's not the mental illness, but the pharmaceuticals they take now, for the slightest angst.
    Here's a possibility: pills are allowing intelligent, driven, but psychologically damaged people, who in an earlier time would have de-selected themselves burning or flipping out, to function and succeed, but the effect in the aggregate makes the elite as a class more sociopathic. And we're led by these mora zombies.
  18. @jimmyriddle
    His violence suggests he had higher than average testosterone levels when he was young. Then when he aged the testosterone level fell quickly. Bruce Jenner would have gone through the same process.

    Maybe athletes and thugs are more likely than average to suffer late onset gender dysphoria.

    I don’t think testosterone works that way unless it is administered artificially, causing the glands that produce it naturally to atrophy. Otherwise it is a slow and steady decline if undisturbed by an increase in lean muscle mass and/or support from one’s diet.

    I think it was iSteve himself who pointed out Jenner’s significant weight gain and concomitant increase in athletic performance over the course of four years between Olympics, suggesting the administration of some steroids during his competitive years.

    Also, publicly available pictures I’ve been able to find of a younger Mr. Faludi don’t seem all that butch – more of a nebbish type with a sunken chest and without particularly masculine facial characteristics.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    If steroids have anything to do with autogynephilia, I am shuddering at the thought of an SF Giants reunion featuring Bonnie Bonds.
    , @Anonymous
    One of the side effects of steroid use is increase in natural estrogen levels produced by the body. There is a homeostatic mechanism in the body whereby higher testosterone is accompanied by higher estrogen. Higher testosterone men may have higher estrogen levels than lower testosterone men. That may be involved here with these high testosterone men who go transgender as they get older. Their testosterone levels may drop off while their estrogen levels don't decline as much or remain elevated.
    , @anonymous-antimarxist

    Also, publicly available pictures I’ve been able to find of a younger Mr. Faludi don’t seem all that butch – more of a nebbish type with a sunken chest and without particularly masculine facial characteristics.
     
    Stereotypical low sexual dimorphism in Jews???
  19. @syonredux

    ‘… But she learns that she’ll be rewarded if she generalizes and intellectualizes her resentment of a Jewish relative into blaming Society or Men or Stereotypes or anti-Semites or whatever it is that Gentiles can be made to feel guilty about…’

    Again? Aren’t you worried Steve that say 20 years from now you’ll decide to become Jewish? I’m extrapolating from what you’ve written about transsexuals, but not extrapolating too much.
     
    Dunno, dear fellow. Last time I checked, "conversion to Judaism" wasn't in the paraphilia catalogue....

    It’s not disturbing to functioning in society the way being attracted to children or lighting fires is–you convert and that’s it. Sadomasochism isn’t even considered necessarily disordered anymore, now that 50 Shades of Grey has sold millions of copies.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    It’s not disturbing to functioning in society the way being attracted to children or lighting fires is–you convert and that’s it. Sadomasochism isn’t even considered necessarily disordered anymore, now that 50 Shades of Grey has sold millions of copies.
     
    I was thinking more along the lines of conversion to Judaism not being sexually arousing. Autogynephiles pursue gender re-assignment because it turns them on. Although I haven't deeply researched the matter, that doesn't seem to be the case with converting to a new religion....
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Sadomasochism isn’t even considered necessarily disordered anymore, now that 50 Shades of Grey has sold millions of copies.
     
    When did selling lowbrow romance fantasy to dimwits determine what is disordered?
  20. @anon
    If they'd had gender reassignment back in 33 AD, would we have an apostle Paula now?

    Gender reassignment would change history beyond recognition–think of all the young men who would change sex to avoid fighting in wars. (They wouldn’t cut their dicks off to save their lives? Guys get penectomies for penile cancer, don’t they?)

    • Replies: @anon
    And it depends on what rules you're following too.

    If all you have to do is just "identify" as a woman, the sky's the limit.
    , @Former Darfur
    At the risk of being pedantic, a man having his penis cut off isn't a woman. He's a man with his penis cut off. That might get him out of the draft, but I don't know if even during WW1 or WWII one man ever went that far.

    My grandfather DID know of a man who had all of his teeth pulled out to avoid the draft, though.
    No one at the plant would work with him, so they fired him. He went to California, got a job in an aircraft plant, and wound up retiring out of Lockheed in the eighties. But to a person, no one in his old rowhouse neighborhood would talk to him when he went back to visit.
  21. @SFG
    He writes long, thoughtful essays about random intellectual and political topics.

    He'd probably actually make a really good secular Jew.

    “He writes long, thoughtful essays about random intellectual and political topics.

    He’d probably actually make a really good secular Jew.”

    So Steve is not even a little bit Jewish like a quarter?

    • Replies: @snorlax

    So Steve is not even a little bit Jewish like a quarter?
     
    I remember seeing a "Steve Sailer" in the comments section of another alt-right blog, who said he was part-Jewish. But it was probably an impersonator.
    , @Paris Hanoi Hilton
    I think it was in a thread somewhere on Sultan Knish, wherein after I had referred to Steve Sailer as a "semi-judaeophile", the Sultan himself took strong issue with that characterization... to which I still subscribe.
    , @Stan Adams
    Sailer on the Future of Intermarriage

    12:02 PM Fri 4 Jun 99

    Steve Sailer here:

    It's interesting to speculate on the future of intermarriage in America. Marriages are increasingly likely to be between people of different ethnic groups but of similar IQ's, and there's no reason to assume this trend will stop. America's obsession with sending everybody to college means that young people get sorted by SAT score (i.e., IQ) when they're at their most romantic. Therefore, it's quite possible that the top dogs in America will in future generations look different than they do now, but they probably won't look much like the future underdogs, either. If we were to halt immigration now, continuing intermarriage along IQ lines might in many generations lead to the country being run by an IQ overclass of mostly "Jeurasians" (i.e., a genetic blend of the smarter European gentiles, Jews, East Asians, South Asians, Armenians, and possibly other Middle Easterners). In contrast, the lower ranks might consist largely of "Redblex": a rather lumpy partial blend of redneck whites, blacks, and Mexicans.

    Of course, continued immigration slows genetic and cultural assimilation. For example, right now Japanese-Americans are fading into Eurasians because of the decline in immigration from Japan (since there are no terribly poor people left in Japan) and their very high rate of intermarriage with whites (especially for Japanese-American women). Chinese-Americans, in contrast, can be expected to remain a distinct ethnic group for several generations more (despite a high rate of intermarriage), since there is no imminent shortage of poor Chinese desperate to come to America.

    The Jews are another interesting case to speculate about. The next generation of the "IQ elite" (e.g., Ivy Leaguers or lawyers or media figures or frequent flyers or whatever category you think representative) may well have a lower percentage of pure Jews ... but a higher percentage of part-Jews, as intermarriage between Jews and smart gentiles continues.

    Would this mean the non-violent extinction of Jews (except for the Orthodox)? Possibly, but it might also imply that America's overclass would become even more dominated by Jewish attitudes, e.g., Hitler-obsession (which has played such a major role in influencing the views on the Balkans of our Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, National Security Adviser, and their colleagues). In the future most highly articulate white Americans will be related to Jews by genes or marriage, which no doubt will impact what views are popular in society (even more than today, when a Marlon Brando is automatically excoriated for saying that Jews have lots of power in Hollywood!)

    For an extreme example of how pro-Semitism can come about within an individual merely through genes alone, consider me. Although I'm Catholic, I became very pro-Semitic at the age of 13 when my powers of logic kicked in (and my hair turned curly). I quickly noticed that a high percentage of the thinkers I either agreed with (e.g., Milton Friedman) or whom I considered it a worthy challenge to argue against were Jewish. Since I was adopted, a few years later I concluded that it was likely that I was half-Jewish biologically, (which indeed appears to be the case based on evidence my wife dug up when I was 30). It's important to understand the chain of causation: having a very Jewish-style brain (e.g., enjoying logical argument), I sought out the best logical arguers to read, very many of whom were Jewish. (You may object that my political views today don't sound much like those of the majority of American Jews, but I was enormously influenced by Jewish neoconservatives in the 1970s and 1980s. Having gone to some lengths to expose myself to Jewish thinkers (not because they were Jewish per se, but because those who most stimulated my kind of mind more than writers from other ethnic groups), I absorbed from them a lot of typically Jewish political stances: e.g., pro-Israel and pro-immigration.

    Now, my pro-Semitism came about even though I was being raised in my (adoptive) family, which has no Jewish relatives, and, in fact, has a slight anti-Semitic mindset. (I realize my case is only a single data point, so I recommend somebody conduct a formal adoption study of Jews and part-Jews adopted by gentile families.) In the future, however, most children of the IQ elite will have Jews in their extended relatives, which will make my kind of pro-Semitism even more widespread in the future.

    Steve Sailer
    , @Josh
    Steve is adopted by Catholics, so who knows. Pay attention, people.
  22. @SFG
    Gender reassignment would change history beyond recognition--think of all the young men who would change sex to avoid fighting in wars. (They wouldn't cut their dicks off to save their lives? Guys get penectomies for penile cancer, don't they?)

    And it depends on what rules you’re following too.

    If all you have to do is just “identify” as a woman, the sky’s the limit.

  23. @SFG
    He writes long, thoughtful essays about random intellectual and political topics.

    He'd probably actually make a really good secular Jew.

    He’d probably actually make a really good secular Jew.

    Only if he moved to Israel.

  24. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    burst into the teenage Faludi’s bedroom and repeatedly bashed her head against the floor, shouting: “I created you. And I can destroy you.”

    Is it actually possible for a grown man to repeatedly “bash” a teenage girl’s head against the floor without causing serious injury or death? Did she happen to have a motorcycle helmet on while this happened? Or is this just poetic license and in reality he just smacked her across the head a couple times and screamed at her?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Shag carpeting?
  25. @SFG
    It's not disturbing to functioning in society the way being attracted to children or lighting fires is--you convert and that's it. Sadomasochism isn't even considered necessarily disordered anymore, now that 50 Shades of Grey has sold millions of copies.

    It’s not disturbing to functioning in society the way being attracted to children or lighting fires is–you convert and that’s it. Sadomasochism isn’t even considered necessarily disordered anymore, now that 50 Shades of Grey has sold millions of copies.

    I was thinking more along the lines of conversion to Judaism not being sexually arousing. Autogynephiles pursue gender re-assignment because it turns them on. Although I haven’t deeply researched the matter, that doesn’t seem to be the case with converting to a new religion….

  26. @Alec Leamas
    I don't think testosterone works that way unless it is administered artificially, causing the glands that produce it naturally to atrophy. Otherwise it is a slow and steady decline if undisturbed by an increase in lean muscle mass and/or support from one's diet.

    I think it was iSteve himself who pointed out Jenner's significant weight gain and concomitant increase in athletic performance over the course of four years between Olympics, suggesting the administration of some steroids during his competitive years.

    Also, publicly available pictures I've been able to find of a younger Mr. Faludi don't seem all that butch - more of a nebbish type with a sunken chest and without particularly masculine facial characteristics.

    If steroids have anything to do with autogynephilia, I am shuddering at the thought of an SF Giants reunion featuring Bonnie Bonds.

    • Replies: @Njguy73
    Your 2025 Cooperstown inductees:

    Barbara Bonds
    Regina Clemens
    Alexis Rodriguez
    Melissa McGwire
    Selena Sosa

  27. @SFG
    It's not disturbing to functioning in society the way being attracted to children or lighting fires is--you convert and that's it. Sadomasochism isn't even considered necessarily disordered anymore, now that 50 Shades of Grey has sold millions of copies.

    Sadomasochism isn’t even considered necessarily disordered anymore, now that 50 Shades of Grey has sold millions of copies.

    When did selling lowbrow romance fantasy to dimwits determine what is disordered?

    • Replies: @SFG
    It was a joke. The destigmatization of kink preceded 50 Shades and made it possible. It always existed--look at all those paintings of Andromeda chained to the rock--but actual kinky sex in a mainstream narrative was a new thing.
  28. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Alec Leamas
    I don't think testosterone works that way unless it is administered artificially, causing the glands that produce it naturally to atrophy. Otherwise it is a slow and steady decline if undisturbed by an increase in lean muscle mass and/or support from one's diet.

    I think it was iSteve himself who pointed out Jenner's significant weight gain and concomitant increase in athletic performance over the course of four years between Olympics, suggesting the administration of some steroids during his competitive years.

    Also, publicly available pictures I've been able to find of a younger Mr. Faludi don't seem all that butch - more of a nebbish type with a sunken chest and without particularly masculine facial characteristics.

    One of the side effects of steroid use is increase in natural estrogen levels produced by the body. There is a homeostatic mechanism in the body whereby higher testosterone is accompanied by higher estrogen. Higher testosterone men may have higher estrogen levels than lower testosterone men. That may be involved here with these high testosterone men who go transgender as they get older. Their testosterone levels may drop off while their estrogen levels don’t decline as much or remain elevated.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Testosterone is actually a synthetic intermediate in the body's production of estrogen. The body makes estrogen *from* testosterone. Kind of weird if you think about it.
    , @unpc downunder
    Although the autogynephilia argument is probably dismissed too lightly, the gender identity explaination for gender dysmorphia in relatively masculine men also isn't explained very well either. The argument is that male to female crossdressers and transsexuals have a subconscious female sex identity which is caused by a shortage of testosterone at some stage in the womb. However, in terms of gender expression they have normal, masculine male brains which don't look like those of women or feminine homosexuals (who receive too much estrogen in the womb). Hence they exhibit normal male gender expression as boys, but then start to feel like female porn stars as soon as they hit puberty and experience a surge in testosterone. The resurgence of these feelings in middle age has yet to be explained but probably has something to do with the neurotransmitter dopamine, which tends to fall quicker than testosterone (we experience a number dopamine crashes over the lifetime starting in late childhood, when we suddenly stop getting excited about opening Christmas presents).

    This argument does have some support from biological research which suggests than animals have an internal map of what sex they are and how they are supposed to act and feel in sex related situations. For example, birds don't find out they are male or female by looking at their birdy privates (which they can't see) they just know instinctively that they are male or female, and that they are supposed to conduct a range of behaviours appropriate to their genetic sex.

    If gynephilic trannies do have insufficiently masculined brains in the sex department (but are otherwise relatively masculine) then the last thing they need to do is to hit the weights and take steroids or take uppers like cocaine. This is only likely to make them feel like uptight, anxious, aggressive, etc. They should be calming their brains rather than hyping them up.

  29. @syonredux

    ‘… But she learns that she’ll be rewarded if she generalizes and intellectualizes her resentment of a Jewish relative into blaming Society or Men or Stereotypes or anti-Semites or whatever it is that Gentiles can be made to feel guilty about…’

    Again? Aren’t you worried Steve that say 20 years from now you’ll decide to become Jewish? I’m extrapolating from what you’ve written about transsexuals, but not extrapolating too much.
     
    Dunno, dear fellow. Last time I checked, "conversion to Judaism" wasn't in the paraphilia catalogue....

    Because you don’t do it for the erotic thrill, you do it for the jokes. Don’t you remember the Seinfeld episode?

  30. @Anonymous

    burst into the teenage Faludi’s bedroom and repeatedly bashed her head against the floor, shouting: “I created you. And I can destroy you.”
     
    Is it actually possible for a grown man to repeatedly "bash" a teenage girl's head against the floor without causing serious injury or death? Did she happen to have a motorcycle helmet on while this happened? Or is this just poetic license and in reality he just smacked her across the head a couple times and screamed at her?

    Shag carpeting?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Carpeting could increase blunt force trauma, no? Similar to how punches to the head with boxing gloves are more concussive than bare knuckles.
  31. As some have noted above, the pattern to notice with these particular autogynephiles is that they all start out as high-testosterone manly men, and then have a sexual identity breakdown in middle age just as their testosterone levels are likely dropping precipitously. My guess is that the sexual brain architecture and ‘homeostatic baseline’ that was mostly formed by the end of puberty and early adulthood was ‘calibrated’ to an exceptionally high level of male sex hormone. So that, by middle age, what is a moderate decline in masculine virility for a normal man is like a total crash for them that hits them like a ton of bricks, and which swings their attractions and self identity all the way past zero and into the modes of the opposite gender.

    The brain is very adept at self-deception and conveniently rewriting memories and retconning the most socially beneficial narrative. So these guys may not exacting be lying about the “always was a girl on the inside”, but that also doesn’t mean we have to take their word for it or trust their testimony as the unvarnished truth.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    So that, by middle age, what is a moderate decline in masculine virility for a normal man is like a total crash for them that hits them like a ton of bricks, and which swings their attractions and self identity all the way past zero and into the modes of the opposite gender.
     
    Autogynephiles are sexually attracted to women. Indeed, once they transition, they rationalize their feelings for women by saying that they are Lesbians.
  32. @Steve Sailer
    Shag carpeting?

    Carpeting could increase blunt force trauma, no? Similar to how punches to the head with boxing gloves are more concussive than bare knuckles.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Boxing gloves causes more head trauma because they allow boxers to aim hard punches at the head without risking breaking bones in their hands (which does happen even with gloves), not because the gloves cause more concussion by themselves.

    Unless there's some really weird physics going on with more energy being transmitted through longer contact or something like that. But that's certainly not the mainstram explanation for why gloves cause more head trauma and seems prima facie absurd.
  33. @Alec Leamas
    I don't think testosterone works that way unless it is administered artificially, causing the glands that produce it naturally to atrophy. Otherwise it is a slow and steady decline if undisturbed by an increase in lean muscle mass and/or support from one's diet.

    I think it was iSteve himself who pointed out Jenner's significant weight gain and concomitant increase in athletic performance over the course of four years between Olympics, suggesting the administration of some steroids during his competitive years.

    Also, publicly available pictures I've been able to find of a younger Mr. Faludi don't seem all that butch - more of a nebbish type with a sunken chest and without particularly masculine facial characteristics.

    Also, publicly available pictures I’ve been able to find of a younger Mr. Faludi don’t seem all that butch – more of a nebbish type with a sunken chest and without particularly masculine facial characteristics.

    Stereotypical low sexual dimorphism in Jews???

  34. @Handle
    As some have noted above, the pattern to notice with these particular autogynephiles is that they all start out as high-testosterone manly men, and then have a sexual identity breakdown in middle age just as their testosterone levels are likely dropping precipitously. My guess is that the sexual brain architecture and 'homeostatic baseline' that was mostly formed by the end of puberty and early adulthood was 'calibrated' to an exceptionally high level of male sex hormone. So that, by middle age, what is a moderate decline in masculine virility for a normal man is like a total crash for them that hits them like a ton of bricks, and which swings their attractions and self identity all the way past zero and into the modes of the opposite gender.

    The brain is very adept at self-deception and conveniently rewriting memories and retconning the most socially beneficial narrative. So these guys may not exacting be lying about the "always was a girl on the inside", but that also doesn't mean we have to take their word for it or trust their testimony as the unvarnished truth.

    So that, by middle age, what is a moderate decline in masculine virility for a normal man is like a total crash for them that hits them like a ton of bricks, and which swings their attractions and self identity all the way past zero and into the modes of the opposite gender.

    Autogynephiles are sexually attracted to women. Indeed, once they transition, they rationalize their feelings for women by saying that they are Lesbians.

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    The fascinating part is that they never discover their true, inner diesel dyke "deep down inside".

    I can't wait for the first transgender bull dyke who is interviewed by Barbara Walters and says the best thing about being a transgender bull dyke is that she never had to change her wardrobe or cut her hair differently, still carries a wallet, still wears overalls and wife beaters, and still wears men's boxers.

    , @Travis
    Autogynephiles start out as transvestites, and may resort to becoming transexuals when they can no longer get an erection. Since their genitals no longer function properly they mutilate their bodies so they can enjoy their fetish full time.
  35. @Anonymous
    One of the side effects of steroid use is increase in natural estrogen levels produced by the body. There is a homeostatic mechanism in the body whereby higher testosterone is accompanied by higher estrogen. Higher testosterone men may have higher estrogen levels than lower testosterone men. That may be involved here with these high testosterone men who go transgender as they get older. Their testosterone levels may drop off while their estrogen levels don't decline as much or remain elevated.

    Testosterone is actually a synthetic intermediate in the body’s production of estrogen. The body makes estrogen *from* testosterone. Kind of weird if you think about it.

    • Replies: @candid_observer

    The body makes estrogen *from* testosterone.
     
    What could go wrong?
    , @anonymous-antimarxist
    Yes, and this explains why in cases of Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome the XY fetus results in a female phenotype that is often in many ways ultra feminine. All that testosterone is converted to estrogen.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_androgen_insensitivity_syndrome

    You made some really good points.

    It would seem to me that with some honest research a heteronormative treatment for autogynephilia would be possible that would have far more likely therapeutic success than gender reassignment.
  36. Shane Johnson, author of Mr. Scott’s Guide to The Enterprise, among other SF titles has also “transitioned” and claims to be woman. That’s another over stereotypical male, not just obsessed with SciFi, but engineering as well.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    There's a baseball sabermetrics analyst who claims to now be a woman.

    I wouldn't be surprised if there were some kind of correlation with the autism spectrum, but it's pretty murky.

  37. @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Sadomasochism isn’t even considered necessarily disordered anymore, now that 50 Shades of Grey has sold millions of copies.
     
    When did selling lowbrow romance fantasy to dimwits determine what is disordered?

    It was a joke. The destigmatization of kink preceded 50 Shades and made it possible. It always existed–look at all those paintings of Andromeda chained to the rock–but actual kinky sex in a mainstream narrative was a new thing.

  38. @anon

    burst into the teenage Faludi’s bedroom and repeatedly bashed her head against the floor, shouting: “I created you. And I can destroy you.”
     
    That joke seemed so much more charming when Cliff Huxtable made it on The Cosby Show. It's all in the delivery, I think.

    Cosby used the joke on one of his early standup LPs in the 60s. It’s probably even older.

  39. @SFG
    Testosterone is actually a synthetic intermediate in the body's production of estrogen. The body makes estrogen *from* testosterone. Kind of weird if you think about it.

    The body makes estrogen *from* testosterone.

    What could go wrong?

    • Replies: @SFG
    There are a whole bunch of (rare) genetic disorders in girls where the body fails to make estrogen and gets testosterone or some useless precursor instead. It also screws up salt metabolism because those things are controlled by steroid hormones too.
  40. The “bro” (aka the “mansier”) was another relic of Jewish sexual confusion wrought by 90s indulgence in pushing the boundaries of gender identities during the ascent of Democrat power.

  41. The book culminates in a shocking scene, when her father finally talks about the time when, outraged by her desire to attend a Christian summer camp with a friend, he burst into the teenage Faludi’s bedroom and repeatedly bashed her head against the floor, shouting: “I created you. And I can destroy you.”

    I have brought this up several times on this blogs and fits in perfectly with Kevin Macdonald’s “A People That Shall Dwell Alone”

    At one time I helped run an adult outdoor sports club. I have heard several stories from lapsed Jews whose families freaked out at the idea of them participating in Boy/Girl Scouts with gentile troops as children.

    Oy Vey, call the Rabbi, What a Shonda!!!

    Explains a lot about the ACLU’s decades long obsession with destroying the BSA.

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    The dangers of inappropriate bonding and imprinting at a hormonal age are well known.

    You wouldn't want your daughter to be a coal-burner, they don't want their daughters fornicating with cute goy boys.

    That is one of the (subterranean) reasons for Birthright Israel: send 'em to Israel in their late teens or early twenties and let them imprint on some strong, macho Israeli males. They may come back and wind up marrying some yehudon dentist, but at least they know what's out there.
  42. Speaking of Orlando and literature, why hasn’t anyone come up with a good think piece linking he massacre to Virginia Woolf’s transgender novel of the same name? Seems like a natural …. much better than tying up Omar Mateen and Brock Turner, or Harambe the Gorilla and the Gators of Disney …..

  43. As Sailer has pointed out, if you don’t necessarily believe officially compiled statistics, you can study groups that “cannot be lied about”. (First 100 Microsoft or Apple employees, 1960s MLB players are near-perfect examples for lots of purposes – and, for limited-purpose studies, two good examples are homicide victims/arrested murder suspects in a given geographic area as a proxy for several measurements of disparate populations, and one’s own high school classmates as a good proxy for local morbidity statistics.) With respect to transexuality, it seems there is not a single MLB vet who is transexual. There is one former Navy Seal. Zero NFL vets, zero former Congressmen. One Olympic Gold Medalist (and not a skater or a gymnast either). Thus, high testosterone in early adulthood (MLB, Seals, NFL, political ambition) seems more like a counter-indication for later married-man father-of-children transexual behavior, than a positive correlation. A more important issue – and I am serious – is the uncourageous Congressional voting behavior of middle-aged and elderly men who take too many female hormones to prevent balding and to prevent having to get up more than once in the night to urinate.

  44. @Milo Minderbinder
    Shane Johnson, author of Mr. Scott's Guide to The Enterprise, among other SF titles has also "transitioned" and claims to be woman. That's another over stereotypical male, not just obsessed with SciFi, but engineering as well.

    There’s a baseball sabermetrics analyst who claims to now be a woman.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if there were some kind of correlation with the autism spectrum, but it’s pretty murky.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Not murky at all. Multiple studies of Aspergers' patients show high gender non-conformity and high rates of Aspergers among transgendered.
    , @Former Darfur
    I've pretty well given up on my former hobby of high end audio, but there are a number of former men turned "women" involved in the more technical aspects of this, as well as a surprising number of such "women" in other tech hobbies. Looking at most of these characters' is enough to confirm the autogynephilia theory for most people.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppj3gqUTt9E

    This character used to be known as Ron. Note well that while there are real girls who do stuff like this, though quite few, they tend not to wear square dancing costumes when doing it.

    This, er, person is doing something (in other videos) that is pretty remarkable-s/he's building h** own vacuum tubes from scratch. But that dress is just too much for me to watch it.
    , @Marie
    https://autogynephiliatruth.wordpress.com
    , @Kay Brown
    Yes, there is a correlation with autism spectrum: https://sillyolme.wordpress.com/2014/09/21/autistic-sky/
  45. @SFG
    I agree 100%. But I do wonder if this is all that new or if people are just more open about mental illness nowadays. Writers were always known as being 'neurasthenic' types, and the macho writers of midcentury were notorious alcoholics.

    Maybe it’s not the mental illness, but the pharmaceuticals they take now, for the slightest angst.
    Here’s a possibility: pills are allowing intelligent, driven, but psychologically damaged people, who in an earlier time would have de-selected themselves burning or flipping out, to function and succeed, but the effect in the aggregate makes the elite as a class more sociopathic. And we’re led by these mora zombies.

  46. @SFG
    Testosterone is actually a synthetic intermediate in the body's production of estrogen. The body makes estrogen *from* testosterone. Kind of weird if you think about it.

    Yes, and this explains why in cases of Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome the XY fetus results in a female phenotype that is often in many ways ultra feminine. All that testosterone is converted to estrogen.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_androgen_insensitivity_syndrome

    You made some really good points.

    It would seem to me that with some honest research a heteronormative treatment for autogynephilia would be possible that would have far more likely therapeutic success than gender reassignment.

    • Replies: @Nico
    But transsexualism is INBORN and it's the RIGHT that's ANTI-SCIENCE!

    The truth, of course, is racist, sexist and homo/transphobic. Doesn't fit the narrative.

    As a Christian I can only comfort myself in what they say about liars...
  47. @anon

    burst into the teenage Faludi’s bedroom and repeatedly bashed her head against the floor, shouting: “I created you. And I can destroy you.”
     
    That joke seemed so much more charming when Cliff Huxtable made it on The Cosby Show. It's all in the delivery, I think.

    Recycled Bill Cosby stand-up act, ca. 1965. On one of his albums, Bill has his father yell, “I brought you into this world. I can take you out.”

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    “I brought you into this world. I can take you out.”
     
    Weird. I remember hollering that at a slow-growing Chia Pet.

    Thought I had made it up.
  48. @Luke Lea
    The CNBC journalist Katy Tur's father had gender reassignment I have read. She comes across as very nice.

    Both Bob Tur and the other Flyin’ Tranny (Dirk Vahle) come off, pre and post makeover-pix, as two mostly-insufferable swaggering pricks. Literally and figuratively. In both cases, these Profiles in Courage have shown no balls to live with ……uhh…..no balls.

    (And when are we going to stop letting these Castration Cowards off the hook? Over the last few years, we’ve been lectured endlessly about what to call – and never to call – these deeply-aberrational defectives….well, we could use a term that refers to shameless attention whores who insist on announcing their New Gender Status with a flounce of petticoats and ‘glamour’ pix, but who otherwise refuse to put their money where their meat is and LOP OFF THE OFFENDING ORGAN. As far as I’m concerned, a “woman” with a functioning penis is just an ugly man in a dress.)

    You’re never going to win World War T with nothing but conscientious objectors, Mr President. For which , thank God.

    • Replies: @Lot

    And when are we going to stop letting these Castration Cowards off the hook?
     
    YES!

    I don't care much if society decides to let men who chop off their wang and grow breasts with hormones officially become women. The percentage of men who want to do this seems to be out 1 in 500 to 1000, and we ought to show some compassion toward their plight.

    But transvestites who just get kinkier with age? Nope, you do not get to be "women" unless you chop it off.
  49. OT, sorta — I have had family members share this story with me concerning a moment of unity in diversity on the NY subway, and they have expressed skepticism. Frankly, I find it hard to believe, and I also find it hard to believe that there would be strategically placed gay, black, asian and (of course) ROMANIAN passengers to take umbrage with the alleged Trump supporter.

    But make up your own minds:

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Muslim-Women-Harassed-Subway-New-York-City-Queensbridge-F-Train-383147481.html

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    This report seems to be based entirely on the word of the woman who posted the supposed episode to Facebook, whose name is Amaira Hassan. I see no identifying information provided for independent corroboration.

    And listen to this fine speech, included in the Facebook entry:


    After some back and forth, one man said, "This is New York City. The most diverse place in the world. And in New York, we protect our own and we don't give a fuck what anyone looks like or who they love, or any of those things. It's time for you to leave these women alone, Sir."
     
    Wow. It's amazing how articulate this man was, extemporaneously, and the perfect recall of Ms Hassan.

    My guess is that, for a living, Hassan sells bridges in Brooklyn. She appears to be doing a brisk business.

    , @anon
    "This is New York City. The most diverse place in the world. And in New York, we protect our own and we don't give a f--- what anyone looks like or who they love, or any of those things. It's time for you to leave these women alone, Sir."

    It's possible that something LIKE that happened, but that statement was never uttered by anoyone.
    , @Jefferson
    "OT, sorta — I have had family members share this story with me concerning a moment of unity in diversity on the NY subway, and they have expressed skepticism. Frankly, I find it hard to believe, and I also find it hard to believe that there would be strategically placed gay, black, asian and (of course) ROMANIAN passengers to take umbrage with the alleged Trump supporter.

    But make up your own minds:"

    Are Romanians now considered allies of The KKKrazy Glue's war on Whites?

    Also that incident could be turned into an ABC After School Special film on fighting Islamophobia. John Goodman plays the Trump supporter and Michael B. Jordan plays the Black guy on the NYC subway train who stands up to him.
    , @Romanian
    Finally, notoriety at last! And I agree that Romanian can become an adequate racial marker, the way the media is using it t refer to European peoples of subcontinental descent (and I mean descent).

    You're going to laugh, but I was peeved as a youngster by the lack of mention (name-dropping) of my country in the popular media I was viewing. Hungary, Serbia etc have a lot higher profiles in the Western mind, possibly because they historically sent out more immigrants than Romania (which only in the post-communist era came into its own as a phenomenon). To the lower classes before globalization, especially peasants, immigrating shamed your family by breaking the bond with the land, diminishing the extended family's capacity for solidarity etc. There are even jokes about this, with a peasant wanting to go to America in the 1930, and going to the train station to get a ticket bound for a port city on the European Atlantic coast. The teller asks him where he's going so he can give him the ticket, and the peasant shouts "what the f*** is it to you?".

    So, it's the late 90s and I'm watching the terrific spy show La femme Nikita. Suddenly, Michael says something about an operative being attacked by "Romanian guerillas operating near Bucharest". My 13 year old self was elated. Later, the Hitman gaming franchise placed the insane asylum where the doctor performed the genetic experiments and cruel/brutal conditioning that created Agent 47 and his clone brothers in Romania (also a level in one of the games). Cue high fives from all of my gamer friends. If Call of Duty ever lets you shoot Romanian terrorists, we will have made it in the public consciousness.

    On a related note, are ethnic markers becoming appropriate replacements for Whites in the victim totem pole in order for goodwhites who can pull it off to differentiate themselves from badwhites? "No, man, he ain't White-White, he Hungarian. Those immigrants have it hard man. They just like us". Or so budding SJWs would like to think.
  50. @syonredux

    So that, by middle age, what is a moderate decline in masculine virility for a normal man is like a total crash for them that hits them like a ton of bricks, and which swings their attractions and self identity all the way past zero and into the modes of the opposite gender.
     
    Autogynephiles are sexually attracted to women. Indeed, once they transition, they rationalize their feelings for women by saying that they are Lesbians.

    The fascinating part is that they never discover their true, inner diesel dyke “deep down inside”.

    I can’t wait for the first transgender bull dyke who is interviewed by Barbara Walters and says the best thing about being a transgender bull dyke is that she never had to change her wardrobe or cut her hair differently, still carries a wallet, still wears overalls and wife beaters, and still wears men’s boxers.

    • Replies: @Kay Brown
    Actually... that was MY first introduction to autogynephilic transsexuals in 1976, the day that I first attended a session at the Stanford University Medical Center's Gender Dysphoria Clinic... 90% of them were wearing too much make-up and cocktail dresses, but a few of them were dressed like, and identified as bull dykes:

    This is my essay on this experience (among others): http://www.transkids.us/invisible.html
  51. @SPMoore8
    OT, sorta -- I have had family members share this story with me concerning a moment of unity in diversity on the NY subway, and they have expressed skepticism. Frankly, I find it hard to believe, and I also find it hard to believe that there would be strategically placed gay, black, asian and (of course) ROMANIAN passengers to take umbrage with the alleged Trump supporter.

    But make up your own minds:

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Muslim-Women-Harassed-Subway-New-York-City-Queensbridge-F-Train-383147481.html

    This report seems to be based entirely on the word of the woman who posted the supposed episode to Facebook, whose name is Amaira Hassan. I see no identifying information provided for independent corroboration.

    And listen to this fine speech, included in the Facebook entry:

    After some back and forth, one man said, “This is New York City. The most diverse place in the world. And in New York, we protect our own and we don’t give a fuck what anyone looks like or who they love, or any of those things. It’s time for you to leave these women alone, Sir.”

    Wow. It’s amazing how articulate this man was, extemporaneously, and the perfect recall of Ms Hassan.

    My guess is that, for a living, Hassan sells bridges in Brooklyn. She appears to be doing a brisk business.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Wow. It’s amazing how articulate this man was, extemporaneously, and the perfect recall of Ms Hassan.

    My guess is that, for a living, Hassan sells bridges in Brooklyn. She appears to be doing a brisk business."

    I have seen enough World Star Hip Hop and Youtube videos to know that when a Black man on public transportation gets in your face, he doesn't call you Sir. More like Whiteboy or Cracka.
  52. burst into the teenage Faludi’s bedroom and repeatedly bashed her head against the floor, shouting: “I created you. And I can destroy you.”

    That has got to be immensely satisfying.

  53. @anonymous-antimarxist

    The book culminates in a shocking scene, when her father finally talks about the time when, outraged by her desire to attend a Christian summer camp with a friend, he burst into the teenage Faludi’s bedroom and repeatedly bashed her head against the floor, shouting: “I created you. And I can destroy you.”
     
    I have brought this up several times on this blogs and fits in perfectly with Kevin Macdonald's "A People That Shall Dwell Alone"

    At one time I helped run an adult outdoor sports club. I have heard several stories from lapsed Jews whose families freaked out at the idea of them participating in Boy/Girl Scouts with gentile troops as children.

    Oy Vey, call the Rabbi, What a Shonda!!!

    Explains a lot about the ACLU's decades long obsession with destroying the BSA.

    The dangers of inappropriate bonding and imprinting at a hormonal age are well known.

    You wouldn’t want your daughter to be a coal-burner, they don’t want their daughters fornicating with cute goy boys.

    That is one of the (subterranean) reasons for Birthright Israel: send ’em to Israel in their late teens or early twenties and let them imprint on some strong, macho Israeli males. They may come back and wind up marrying some yehudon dentist, but at least they know what’s out there.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    That is one of the (subterranean) reasons for Birthright Israel: send ‘em to Israel in their late teens or early twenties and let them imprint on some strong, macho Israeli males.
     
    Broad City did an episode that poked fun at the "reproductive" aspects of Birthright:

    From the moment the episode begins – showing the pair stuck on a plane full of (really annoying) teenagers accompanying them on the trip – Abby and Ilana can’t stop making fun of Birthright. On last week’s episode, the tour guide explained that the trip was oriented toward the “reproductive future” of the Jewish people, after which participants began chanting “Jews! Jews! Jews!” to Ilana and Abby’s horror. The gag continues this week, as the trip ends up looking like an extended, in-person, and even more awkward version of J-Date. Trip participants are seated according to marriage eligibility, which involves pairing male and female Ivy School graduates with each other (and forcing Abby and Ilana apart).

    One of the participants proposes to the girl sitting beside him right there in the plane, having brought a wedding ring just in case. Meanwhile, Ilana gets in an argument with the tour leader, during which he admits that he couldn’t care less about marriage but gets a commission for every couple that gets hitched, and a bonus if it happens on the plane before arrival.

     

    http://mondoweiss.net/2016/04/when-broad-city-went-on-birthright-and-taught-us-all-a-lesson-about-american-jews-and-israel/
    , @syonredux

    “I hope you’ve all been doing the hanky panky,” Sheldon Adelson said to us, over the microphone. The superannuated gambling-industry billionaire, financier of right-wing vanity candidates and causes, was onstage in an enormous auditorium somewhere outside Tel Aviv: a stout little figure, well groomed but vaguely unhealthy-looking, telling us all, through wet lips, that we ought to be fu[.....].

    Everyone in the audience laughed. Partly it was funny when an old person said a thing like "hanky panky" when he meant "fu[.....]," and partly it was funny because the young people truly had been doing a lot of the hanky panky.
     

    Sheldon Adelson's interest in our copulatory opportunities was not a gag. It was as serious as his well-publicized hawkishness on the question of Israel's national security, and to the same end: He was addressing us as young Jews brought in from dozens of countries, by the thousands, to experience the Jewish nation firsthand—to see Israel, to feel Israel, to bond with the Israeli experience on the most intimate and personal level. To let Israel into our pants. Not for nothing are these biannual tours called "Birthright": God, or an organization acting on God's behalf, wanted us to be fruitful and multiply in this land.

    Later that night, on the bus back to our hotel, our trip leaders informed us that the rooms could be co-ed for our final nights. “Orders from the higher ups,” they not-joked.
     

    Each year, the various companies and organizations that operate under the Taglit-Birthright Israel umbrella bring thousands of Jews between the ages of 18 to 26 from all over the world to Israel for a free ten-day trip. The goal, the Birthright website says, is “to change the course of Jewish history and ensure the continuity of the Jewish people by strengthening Jewish identity, Jewish communities, and solidarity with Israel via an educational trip to Israel for Jewish young adults around the world.” Their “hope is that our trips motivate young people to continue to explore their Jewish identity, support for Israel, and to maintain long-lasting connections with Israelis after their trip has ended.”

    As long as you have at least one Jewish parent (or have converted) and have never been to Israel on a previous organized tour or educational trip (personal trips are fine), you’re eligible.
     

    It turned out most of my answers didn’t matter. As long as Birthright understands you’ve got at least one Jewish parent or you’ve converted, and that you can plunk down the $250 deposit (or have qualified for the deposit scholarship) you’re good. And the organization seems to favor the halfies and the non-practicers—without a religion or with half of one, these are the people Birthright can woo. The goal here is to motivate young Jews to “explore their Jewish identity,” especially those who never had one to begin with.
     
    http://gawker.com/the-yids-are-alright-10-days-of-spiritual-decadence-on-496161275
  54. For me knowing that Faludi was Hungarian explained everything. Why do you have to drag the Jews into this Sailer ?

  55. Steven Faludi……. Stefanie Faludi ……..let’s just call it “Istvan Friedman” until we’re provided with a compelling reason not to.

    By the way, as Friedman used his claimed “Holocaust survivor” status as a hall pass in a previous incarnation,

    I’ve known one high achieving man who later announced he was transgender, and when I knew him he was widely considered the biggest prick around. Perhaps it’s a pattern among autogynephilic late-in-life transsexuals?

    perhaps Steve is barking up the wrong pattern. Has anyone thus far attempted a definitive study of Holocaust Survivors who end up castrated on a bloody surgeon’s table 70 years later? (Talk about taking the long way to come full circle.) Or perhaps the real publishing-contract gold lies in a study of Levantine name-changers who step up their game, so to speak, in the 21st century….? You could call it SCHMECKELOFF TO ‘SMITH’ TO SCHMECKEL OFF: Old Shapeshifters in the New Millenium.

    Hey, just spitballing ideas is all.

  56. @Steve Sailer
    There's a baseball sabermetrics analyst who claims to now be a woman.

    I wouldn't be surprised if there were some kind of correlation with the autism spectrum, but it's pretty murky.

    Not murky at all. Multiple studies of Aspergers’ patients show high gender non-conformity and high rates of Aspergers among transgendered.

  57. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @SPMoore8
    OT, sorta -- I have had family members share this story with me concerning a moment of unity in diversity on the NY subway, and they have expressed skepticism. Frankly, I find it hard to believe, and I also find it hard to believe that there would be strategically placed gay, black, asian and (of course) ROMANIAN passengers to take umbrage with the alleged Trump supporter.

    But make up your own minds:

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Muslim-Women-Harassed-Subway-New-York-City-Queensbridge-F-Train-383147481.html

    “This is New York City. The most diverse place in the world. And in New York, we protect our own and we don’t give a f— what anyone looks like or who they love, or any of those things. It’s time for you to leave these women alone, Sir.”

    It’s possible that something LIKE that happened, but that statement was never uttered by anoyone.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    I lived in Manhattan for ten years and I never heard anyone speechifying on the subway unless they were off their meds; certainly never heard a speech like that.

    I thought the story was a hoax when I first saw it yesterday, bu when my own family started sharing it with me and telling me that they also thought it was fake, I figured I'd share.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    It’s an old classic quote from opposite-day John Rocker.
  58. @SFG
    Gender reassignment would change history beyond recognition--think of all the young men who would change sex to avoid fighting in wars. (They wouldn't cut their dicks off to save their lives? Guys get penectomies for penile cancer, don't they?)

    At the risk of being pedantic, a man having his penis cut off isn’t a woman. He’s a man with his penis cut off. That might get him out of the draft, but I don’t know if even during WW1 or WWII one man ever went that far.

    My grandfather DID know of a man who had all of his teeth pulled out to avoid the draft, though.
    No one at the plant would work with him, so they fired him. He went to California, got a job in an aircraft plant, and wound up retiring out of Lockheed in the eighties. But to a person, no one in his old rowhouse neighborhood would talk to him when he went back to visit.

  59. @SPMoore8
    OT, sorta -- I have had family members share this story with me concerning a moment of unity in diversity on the NY subway, and they have expressed skepticism. Frankly, I find it hard to believe, and I also find it hard to believe that there would be strategically placed gay, black, asian and (of course) ROMANIAN passengers to take umbrage with the alleged Trump supporter.

    But make up your own minds:

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Muslim-Women-Harassed-Subway-New-York-City-Queensbridge-F-Train-383147481.html

    “OT, sorta — I have had family members share this story with me concerning a moment of unity in diversity on the NY subway, and they have expressed skepticism. Frankly, I find it hard to believe, and I also find it hard to believe that there would be strategically placed gay, black, asian and (of course) ROMANIAN passengers to take umbrage with the alleged Trump supporter.

    But make up your own minds:”

    Are Romanians now considered allies of The KKKrazy Glue’s war on Whites?

    Also that incident could be turned into an ABC After School Special film on fighting Islamophobia. John Goodman plays the Trump supporter and Michael B. Jordan plays the Black guy on the NYC subway train who stands up to him.

    • Replies: @Lurker

    Are Romanians now considered allies of The KKKrazy Glue’s war on Whites?
     
    Is 'Romanian' code for Gypsy/Roma? It usually is.
    , @SPMoore8
    I like your ideas, but I think it would be even better if all of the people on the subway stood up and said, "I am Spartacus!"
  60. Richard Simmon went woman. That’s according to a headline I read at the supermarket checkout stand today*. Was there something wildly wrong with him being an unusually effeminate man? He didn’t bother me one bit as he was.

    *I was working at a construction site with no Andy Gump. I used the supermarket restroom and purchased a bottle of water to make myself square for the convenience.

  61. @Steve Sailer
    There's a baseball sabermetrics analyst who claims to now be a woman.

    I wouldn't be surprised if there were some kind of correlation with the autism spectrum, but it's pretty murky.

    I’ve pretty well given up on my former hobby of high end audio, but there are a number of former men turned “women” involved in the more technical aspects of this, as well as a surprising number of such “women” in other tech hobbies. Looking at most of these characters’ is enough to confirm the autogynephilia theory for most people.

    This character used to be known as Ron. Note well that while there are real girls who do stuff like this, though quite few, they tend not to wear square dancing costumes when doing it.

    This, er, person is doing something (in other videos) that is pretty remarkable-s/he’s building h** own vacuum tubes from scratch. But that dress is just too much for me to watch it.

  62. @Ron Unz
    It really seems that in recent years a remarkable fraction of our most influential public intellectuals have come from families with seemingly hereditary mental illness...

    Maybe that explains some of the odder aspects of our current society...

    These days, I tend to follow a “non crazy Jew”: Jesus.

  63. Really, Steve? You thought that someone with Susan Faludi’s views was an Italian Catholic because her name ends in a vowel? I thought you were much sharper than that. You must not know many Italian Catholics.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    I've met Italian-American Catholic women who are quite left wing. Think of Nancy Pelosi.
  64. Hamilton has turned America’s favorite Puerto Rican Lin Manuel Miranda into a multi-millionaire.
    http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/actors/lin-manuel-miranda-net-worth/
    http://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/how-much-does/hamilton-staff-earning-millions/

    Lin became wealthy from being a Broadway actor and not a Hollywood actor. How often does that happen?

    • Replies: @syonredux

    Lin became wealthy from being a Broadway actor and not a Hollywood actor. How often does that happen?
     
    He wrote Hamilton:

    The Public Theater receives a weekly royalty of 1 percent of the adjusted box-office gross. As the sole author, Miranda, 36, gets a 7 percent cut – which means that in a typical week of eight shows he can make about $105,000 in royalties. (That's on top of his negotiated salary for starring as Alexander Hamilton.) Both parties get an extra 0.5 percent once the show is 110 percent recouped. Miranda also pays the underlying rights owner (author Ron Chernow, whose Hamilton biography served as the musical's source material) from his share. Producers Jeffrey Seller, Sander Jacobs and Jill Furman split a 3 percent share, plus a weekly $3,000 administrative office fee. Director Thomas Kail (2 percent), choreographer Andy Blankenbuehler (1.5 percent) and other key creatives also are part of the royalty pool.
     
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hamilton-whos-making-millions-broadways-881205
  65. Somewhat OT but,
    “(This has hardened into an ideological orthodoxy that you publicly question at some peril to your career.)”
    Is this as true today as it was, say, a year ago?

  66. @Jefferson
    "He writes long, thoughtful essays about random intellectual and political topics.

    He’d probably actually make a really good secular Jew."

    So Steve is not even a little bit Jewish like a quarter?

    So Steve is not even a little bit Jewish like a quarter?

    I remember seeing a “Steve Sailer” in the comments section of another alt-right blog, who said he was part-Jewish. But it was probably an impersonator.

  67. I may be late in mentioning this, but this is the NYT title of the Faludi book review:

    “Father Was A Vicious Bully. Then He Became a Woman.”

    Please, everyone, enjoy the mendacity: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/13/books/review-susan-faludi-in-the-darkroom.html

    Regarding this:

    “In 1944, every Budapest man who wasn’t in uniform risked “trouser inspections” — meaning her father’s genitalia, which he’d one day be rid of, could at any moment have betrayed him as a Jew”

    — supposedly (I read this in a ’70s-era biography) Roman Polanski, the child rapist auteur, gained a measure of Holocaust-era infamy amongst other Jews in Nazi-occupied Poland when he would use melted candle wax to fake a foreskin.

  68. No literature on transgenderism is complete without this book: https://www.amazon.com/Strange-Tribe-Family-John-Hemingway/dp/1599211122/ref=pd_sim_14_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=516pfvyYjRL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR99%2C160_&psc=1&refRID=JREPNP34HXJZPMX5550J
    It’s about Hemingway’s cross-dressing son, Gregory, as told by his own long-suffering son, John Hemingway. Fascinating stuff.

  69. These men were probably transvestites , but as they got older their fetish was their only means of getting sexually excited as their hormones decreased. Thus they take it to the next level by transitioning so they can enjoy their fetish full time.

    Bruce Jenner has admitted to being a transvestite for years, and even today he remains a transvestite with a boob job. He kept his genitalia so he could still fornicate with females and he has yet to have any sexual contact with males. is the father of Susan Faludi now a Lesbian ? Seems like most of these autogynephilics remain romantically involved with females.

  70. Faludi’s New Yorker piece from a few years ago about the crazy Jewish feminist Shulamith Firestone was awfully good, I thought.

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/04/15/death-of-a-revolutionary

    Fwiw, I endorse Steve’s interpretation of much feminism. I’d go so far as to say that a LOT of Jewish politics are best understood as projections of Jewish family dynamics.

  71. @Ron Unz
    It really seems that in recent years a remarkable fraction of our most influential public intellectuals have come from families with seemingly hereditary mental illness...

    Maybe that explains some of the odder aspects of our current society...

    It really seems that in recent years a remarkable fraction of our most influential public intellectuals have come from families with seemingly hereditary mental illness…

    I think people with very high IQs (say, above 140) are much more likely to be non-neurotypical. That’s fine in STEM, but when it comes to the social sciences, we’d probably be better off if our public intellectuals were a bit more normal – even if they were just a bit less clever.

  72. “Strange Tribe is a fascinating memoir revealing the peculiar family dynamics between Ernest Hemingway and his youngest son Gregory. Gregory, the author’s father, tried to live up to Ernest’s “macho” reputation throughout his life. But as a cross-dresser and (eventually) a transsexual, Gregory was obsessed with androgyny and his “female half,” and he struggled with personal demons up until his death in the Women’s Correctional Facility of the Miami Dade County Jail in 2001. In this wonderfully crafted narrative, John reveals how Ernest and Gregory (who both suffered from bipolar illness and were both fascinated by androgyny) were “two sides of the same coin.” Featuring several unpublished correspondences between Ernest and Gregory, Strange Tribe is the story of these two men and the surprising similarities between the two.

    This is also John’s story–about what it was like growing up in Miami and Montana with his father and his schizophrenic mother, and of how it took him years to deal with the pain their illnesses caused him. He also shows how the persona of Ernest Hemingway, the most important literary icon of the past 100 years, continues to loom darkly over the often-troubled lives of his descendants.”

    – from the Amazon description

  73. @syonredux

    So that, by middle age, what is a moderate decline in masculine virility for a normal man is like a total crash for them that hits them like a ton of bricks, and which swings their attractions and self identity all the way past zero and into the modes of the opposite gender.
     
    Autogynephiles are sexually attracted to women. Indeed, once they transition, they rationalize their feelings for women by saying that they are Lesbians.

    Autogynephiles start out as transvestites, and may resort to becoming transexuals when they can no longer get an erection. Since their genitals no longer function properly they mutilate their bodies so they can enjoy their fetish full time.

    • Replies: @Kay Brown
    While autogynephilia is progressive, it does not progress to transsexuality because they can't get aroused... as MOST of them are still quite capable of erections right up to the day that they have SRS.

    Please, if you are going to say things about them, learn about them?

    https://sillyolme.wordpress.com/faq-on-the-science/
  74. @anon

    burst into the teenage Faludi’s bedroom and repeatedly bashed her head against the floor, shouting: “I created you. And I can destroy you.”
     
    That joke seemed so much more charming when Cliff Huxtable made it on The Cosby Show. It's all in the delivery, I think.

    This line dates back at least to Gogol’s “Taras Bulba.”

    • Agree: SPMoore8
    • Replies: @Stumpy Pepys
    Zaparosti!! Drink!
  75. @candid_observer
    This report seems to be based entirely on the word of the woman who posted the supposed episode to Facebook, whose name is Amaira Hassan. I see no identifying information provided for independent corroboration.

    And listen to this fine speech, included in the Facebook entry:


    After some back and forth, one man said, "This is New York City. The most diverse place in the world. And in New York, we protect our own and we don't give a fuck what anyone looks like or who they love, or any of those things. It's time for you to leave these women alone, Sir."
     
    Wow. It's amazing how articulate this man was, extemporaneously, and the perfect recall of Ms Hassan.

    My guess is that, for a living, Hassan sells bridges in Brooklyn. She appears to be doing a brisk business.

    “Wow. It’s amazing how articulate this man was, extemporaneously, and the perfect recall of Ms Hassan.

    My guess is that, for a living, Hassan sells bridges in Brooklyn. She appears to be doing a brisk business.”

    I have seen enough World Star Hip Hop and Youtube videos to know that when a Black man on public transportation gets in your face, he doesn’t call you Sir. More like Whiteboy or Cracka.

  76. Susan Faludi identifies as Jewish, but technically isn’t.

    I am a Jew who knows next to nothing of Jewish law, ritual, prayers. I never attended Hebrew school; I wasn’t batmitzvahed. We never belonged to the one synagogue in Yorktown Heights, which, anyway, was so loosey-goosey Reform it might as well have been Unitarian. My mother is Jewish only on her father’s side, a lack of matrilineage that renders me gentile to all but the most liberal wing of the rabbinate.

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/jun/04/susan-faludi-getting-know-father-woman-the-darkroom

    Susan never had children. She is quoted as saying, “Divorced men are more likely to meet their car payments than their child support obligations.” She doesn’t possess the common sense to understand that a man needs a car to get to work.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "She is quoted as saying, “Divorced men are more likely to meet their car payments than their child support obligations.” "

    I know any number of divoced men who would say the same thing about their ex-wives. A lot of women seem to spend the child-support money on themselves.
  77. I know a fellow who hung out with Faludi some and said that she’s no feminazi- he found her pretty agreeable

    • Replies: @SFG
    The poor lady got curious after 'Backlash' as to why the men were backlashing and performed the unfeminist step of *actually talking to the men*, resulting in (as Steve pointed out) 'Stiffed', which argued lower and middle class guys had been screwed by capitalism and deindustrialization. Wasn't good for her career--you gotta keep throwing red meat to the misandrists.
  78. @Big Bill
    The dangers of inappropriate bonding and imprinting at a hormonal age are well known.

    You wouldn't want your daughter to be a coal-burner, they don't want their daughters fornicating with cute goy boys.

    That is one of the (subterranean) reasons for Birthright Israel: send 'em to Israel in their late teens or early twenties and let them imprint on some strong, macho Israeli males. They may come back and wind up marrying some yehudon dentist, but at least they know what's out there.

    That is one of the (subterranean) reasons for Birthright Israel: send ‘em to Israel in their late teens or early twenties and let them imprint on some strong, macho Israeli males.

    Broad City did an episode that poked fun at the “reproductive” aspects of Birthright:

    From the moment the episode begins – showing the pair stuck on a plane full of (really annoying) teenagers accompanying them on the trip – Abby and Ilana can’t stop making fun of Birthright. On last week’s episode, the tour guide explained that the trip was oriented toward the “reproductive future” of the Jewish people, after which participants began chanting “Jews! Jews! Jews!” to Ilana and Abby’s horror. The gag continues this week, as the trip ends up looking like an extended, in-person, and even more awkward version of J-Date. Trip participants are seated according to marriage eligibility, which involves pairing male and female Ivy School graduates with each other (and forcing Abby and Ilana apart).

    One of the participants proposes to the girl sitting beside him right there in the plane, having brought a wedding ring just in case. Meanwhile, Ilana gets in an argument with the tour leader, during which he admits that he couldn’t care less about marriage but gets a commission for every couple that gets hitched, and a bonus if it happens on the plane before arrival.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2016/04/when-broad-city-went-on-birthright-and-taught-us-all-a-lesson-about-american-jews-and-israel/

  79. @anon
    "This is New York City. The most diverse place in the world. And in New York, we protect our own and we don't give a f--- what anyone looks like or who they love, or any of those things. It's time for you to leave these women alone, Sir."

    It's possible that something LIKE that happened, but that statement was never uttered by anoyone.

    I lived in Manhattan for ten years and I never heard anyone speechifying on the subway unless they were off their meds; certainly never heard a speech like that.

    I thought the story was a hoax when I first saw it yesterday, bu when my own family started sharing it with me and telling me that they also thought it was fake, I figured I’d share.

    • Replies: @Moshe
    I must have speechified on the train a dozen times. It's fun. Heck, last year I was in nyc and got my half of the train to, very literally sing Stand By Me. I've also given bullshit speeches, motivational speeches (some Mexican lady was so moved she teared up and gave me $5 and wouldn't take it back), and once, back in the day, the spirit of the Lord came over me and I suddenly stood up, pointed to my long time friend Avi and shouted "Terrorist!". Hey, see something, say something.

    There's no reason the commute should be dull. You only live once, my friend :)
  80. @Jefferson
    Hamilton has turned America's favorite Puerto Rican Lin Manuel Miranda into a multi-millionaire.
    http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/actors/lin-manuel-miranda-net-worth/
    http://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/how-much-does/hamilton-staff-earning-millions/

    Lin became wealthy from being a Broadway actor and not a Hollywood actor. How often does that happen?

    Lin became wealthy from being a Broadway actor and not a Hollywood actor. How often does that happen?

    He wrote Hamilton:

    The Public Theater receives a weekly royalty of 1 percent of the adjusted box-office gross. As the sole author, Miranda, 36, gets a 7 percent cut – which means that in a typical week of eight shows he can make about $105,000 in royalties. (That’s on top of his negotiated salary for starring as Alexander Hamilton.) Both parties get an extra 0.5 percent once the show is 110 percent recouped. Miranda also pays the underlying rights owner (author Ron Chernow, whose Hamilton biography served as the musical’s source material) from his share. Producers Jeffrey Seller, Sander Jacobs and Jill Furman split a 3 percent share, plus a weekly $3,000 administrative office fee. Director Thomas Kail (2 percent), choreographer Andy Blankenbuehler (1.5 percent) and other key creatives also are part of the royalty pool.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hamilton-whos-making-millions-broadways-881205

  81. WGG says:

    The dude wasn’t born Faludi, either. He was born Friedman according to the linked wiki page. So this is the second time he has undergone an unnecessary identity change. Rather psychotic.

    It sounds like this old man is a true sadist. I know a few, and they get very meddlesome in their old age. I don’t think it is a coincidence that the feminist woman who rejected her father’s ugly version of masculinity is forced to eat crow when he out-woman’s his own daughter- and in a way steals *her* identity as defender of the feminine. Along with copious attention, making the daughter squirm was part of the pay off.

    I actually read a story of a supportive woman with a so-called Trans brother who wanted to change his given name to her name with his m2f transition. So now they would be two “sisters” with the exact same name. Bio Sister was offended, but needed assurance she wasn’t being “transphobic”. Good grief.

  82. @jimmyriddle
    His violence suggests he had higher than average testosterone levels when he was young. Then when he aged the testosterone level fell quickly. Bruce Jenner would have gone through the same process.

    Maybe athletes and thugs are more likely than average to suffer late onset gender dysphoria.

    It’s not gender dysphoria. It’s not autogynephilia.

    It’s careerism.

    These men are realizing that it’s not cool to be a overbearing man, but way cool to be an overbearing woman. Just making a lateral move. No different than a catcher with bad knees moving to first base to keep his bat in the lineup.

    These men don’t care what gender/race/religion/whatever they are part of, just so long as it’s the one with the upper hand.

    They are, as Faludi described her former dad, “ciphers, cryptic to everyone around them.” They are whatever you want them to be.

    • Replies: @rod1963
    I've met guys like that too. Everyone of them would do anything for a promotion and most turned into the most despicable POS imaginable as a result. I watched them take endless abuse by their managers and merely nodded in return, they volunteered for all the non-paid overtime they could get. Work the weekend for free? No problem. Come in on Christmas? No problem. Come to work after a spinal tap, ditto.

    I don't know what went on in their noggins but they had to have been in hell.
  83. @Jefferson
    "He writes long, thoughtful essays about random intellectual and political topics.

    He’d probably actually make a really good secular Jew."

    So Steve is not even a little bit Jewish like a quarter?

    I think it was in a thread somewhere on Sultan Knish, wherein after I had referred to Steve Sailer as a “semi-judaeophile”, the Sultan himself took strong issue with that characterization… to which I still subscribe.

  84. @SPMoore8
    If steroids have anything to do with autogynephilia, I am shuddering at the thought of an SF Giants reunion featuring Bonnie Bonds.

    Your 2025 Cooperstown inductees:

    Barbara Bonds
    Regina Clemens
    Alexis Rodriguez
    Melissa McGwire
    Selena Sosa

    • Agree: SPMoore8
    • Replies: @Alec Leamas
    IIRC, Rodriguez's Yankees teammates nicknamed him "A-Cup" for the effect steroid use had upon his upper body.
  85. @Steve Sailer
    There's a baseball sabermetrics analyst who claims to now be a woman.

    I wouldn't be surprised if there were some kind of correlation with the autism spectrum, but it's pretty murky.

  86. @Big Bill
    The dangers of inappropriate bonding and imprinting at a hormonal age are well known.

    You wouldn't want your daughter to be a coal-burner, they don't want their daughters fornicating with cute goy boys.

    That is one of the (subterranean) reasons for Birthright Israel: send 'em to Israel in their late teens or early twenties and let them imprint on some strong, macho Israeli males. They may come back and wind up marrying some yehudon dentist, but at least they know what's out there.

    “I hope you’ve all been doing the hanky panky,” Sheldon Adelson said to us, over the microphone. The superannuated gambling-industry billionaire, financier of right-wing vanity candidates and causes, was onstage in an enormous auditorium somewhere outside Tel Aviv: a stout little figure, well groomed but vaguely unhealthy-looking, telling us all, through wet lips, that we ought to be fu[…..].

    Everyone in the audience laughed. Partly it was funny when an old person said a thing like “hanky panky” when he meant “fu[…..],” and partly it was funny because the young people truly had been doing a lot of the hanky panky.

    Sheldon Adelson’s interest in our copulatory opportunities was not a gag. It was as serious as his well-publicized hawkishness on the question of Israel’s national security, and to the same end: He was addressing us as young Jews brought in from dozens of countries, by the thousands, to experience the Jewish nation firsthand—to see Israel, to feel Israel, to bond with the Israeli experience on the most intimate and personal level. To let Israel into our pants. Not for nothing are these biannual tours called “Birthright”: God, or an organization acting on God’s behalf, wanted us to be fruitful and multiply in this land.

    Later that night, on the bus back to our hotel, our trip leaders informed us that the rooms could be co-ed for our final nights. “Orders from the higher ups,” they not-joked.

    Each year, the various companies and organizations that operate under the Taglit-Birthright Israel umbrella bring thousands of Jews between the ages of 18 to 26 from all over the world to Israel for a free ten-day trip. The goal, the Birthright website says, is “to change the course of Jewish history and ensure the continuity of the Jewish people by strengthening Jewish identity, Jewish communities, and solidarity with Israel via an educational trip to Israel for Jewish young adults around the world.” Their “hope is that our trips motivate young people to continue to explore their Jewish identity, support for Israel, and to maintain long-lasting connections with Israelis after their trip has ended.”

    As long as you have at least one Jewish parent (or have converted) and have never been to Israel on a previous organized tour or educational trip (personal trips are fine), you’re eligible.

    It turned out most of my answers didn’t matter. As long as Birthright understands you’ve got at least one Jewish parent or you’ve converted, and that you can plunk down the $250 deposit (or have qualified for the deposit scholarship) you’re good. And the organization seems to favor the halfies and the non-practicers—without a religion or with half of one, these are the people Birthright can woo. The goal here is to motivate young Jews to “explore their Jewish identity,” especially those who never had one to begin with.

    http://gawker.com/the-yids-are-alright-10-days-of-spiritual-decadence-on-496161275

  87. Susan Faludi is quite obviously a man.

  88. Leftists in general, and feminists in particular, have pushed the idea that normal family life is actually a fount of sickness and cruelty, and the source of many of society’s evils. It is a view that is actually a complete inversion of reality. And it seems to stem from the personal dissastisfaction of those people with their own upbringings. The personal is political: that is to say, some people’s particular personal hang-ups become politics for the rest of us.

    A sensible response to these people would be to say: Gosh, I’m sorry your childhood sucked, but mine was just peachy, so don’t ask me to turn society upside down and shake it out like a waste basket just to exorcise your personal demons.

    • Agree: Travis, PV van der Byl
  89. @Anon
    This line dates back at least to Gogol's "Taras Bulba."

    Zaparosti!! Drink!

  90. @Triumph104
    Susan Faludi identifies as Jewish, but technically isn't.


    I am a Jew who knows next to nothing of Jewish law, ritual, prayers. I never attended Hebrew school; I wasn’t batmitzvahed. We never belonged to the one synagogue in Yorktown Heights, which, anyway, was so loosey-goosey Reform it might as well have been Unitarian. My mother is Jewish only on her father’s side, a lack of matrilineage that renders me gentile to all but the most liberal wing of the rabbinate.

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/jun/04/susan-faludi-getting-know-father-woman-the-darkroom
     
    Susan never had children. She is quoted as saying, "Divorced men are more likely to meet their car payments than their child support obligations." She doesn't possess the common sense to understand that a man needs a car to get to work.

    “She is quoted as saying, “Divorced men are more likely to meet their car payments than their child support obligations.” ”

    I know any number of divoced men who would say the same thing about their ex-wives. A lot of women seem to spend the child-support money on themselves.

  91. @Luke Lea
    The CNBC journalist Katy Tur's father had gender reassignment I have read. She comes across as very nice.

    As a regular watcher of NBC Nightly News (force of habit), I am highly amused that they have apparently assigned Katy Tur to cover the Donald Trump campaign. I wonder if her old boy friend, Keith Olberman, who dated Tur for several years, is contemplating sex change surgery. He seems a likely candidate since he is so macho.

  92. @Jefferson
    "He writes long, thoughtful essays about random intellectual and political topics.

    He’d probably actually make a really good secular Jew."

    So Steve is not even a little bit Jewish like a quarter?

    Sailer on the Future of Intermarriage

    12:02 PM Fri 4 Jun 99

    Steve Sailer here:

    It’s interesting to speculate on the future of intermarriage in America. Marriages are increasingly likely to be between people of different ethnic groups but of similar IQ’s, and there’s no reason to assume this trend will stop. America’s obsession with sending everybody to college means that young people get sorted by SAT score (i.e., IQ) when they’re at their most romantic. Therefore, it’s quite possible that the top dogs in America will in future generations look different than they do now, but they probably won’t look much like the future underdogs, either. If we were to halt immigration now, continuing intermarriage along IQ lines might in many generations lead to the country being run by an IQ overclass of mostly “Jeurasians” (i.e., a genetic blend of the smarter European gentiles, Jews, East Asians, South Asians, Armenians, and possibly other Middle Easterners). In contrast, the lower ranks might consist largely of “Redblex”: a rather lumpy partial blend of redneck whites, blacks, and Mexicans.

    Of course, continued immigration slows genetic and cultural assimilation. For example, right now Japanese-Americans are fading into Eurasians because of the decline in immigration from Japan (since there are no terribly poor people left in Japan) and their very high rate of intermarriage with whites (especially for Japanese-American women). Chinese-Americans, in contrast, can be expected to remain a distinct ethnic group for several generations more (despite a high rate of intermarriage), since there is no imminent shortage of poor Chinese desperate to come to America.

    The Jews are another interesting case to speculate about. The next generation of the “IQ elite” (e.g., Ivy Leaguers or lawyers or media figures or frequent flyers or whatever category you think representative) may well have a lower percentage of pure Jews … but a higher percentage of part-Jews, as intermarriage between Jews and smart gentiles continues.

    Would this mean the non-violent extinction of Jews (except for the Orthodox)? Possibly, but it might also imply that America’s overclass would become even more dominated by Jewish attitudes, e.g., Hitler-obsession (which has played such a major role in influencing the views on the Balkans of our Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, National Security Adviser, and their colleagues). In the future most highly articulate white Americans will be related to Jews by genes or marriage, which no doubt will impact what views are popular in society (even more than today, when a Marlon Brando is automatically excoriated for saying that Jews have lots of power in Hollywood!)

    For an extreme example of how pro-Semitism can come about within an individual merely through genes alone, consider me. Although I’m Catholic, I became very pro-Semitic at the age of 13 when my powers of logic kicked in (and my hair turned curly). I quickly noticed that a high percentage of the thinkers I either agreed with (e.g., Milton Friedman) or whom I considered it a worthy challenge to argue against were Jewish. Since I was adopted, a few years later I concluded that it was likely that I was half-Jewish biologically, (which indeed appears to be the case based on evidence my wife dug up when I was 30). It’s important to understand the chain of causation: having a very Jewish-style brain (e.g., enjoying logical argument), I sought out the best logical arguers to read, very many of whom were Jewish. (You may object that my political views today don’t sound much like those of the majority of American Jews, but I was enormously influenced by Jewish neoconservatives in the 1970s and 1980s. Having gone to some lengths to expose myself to Jewish thinkers (not because they were Jewish per se, but because those who most stimulated my kind of mind more than writers from other ethnic groups), I absorbed from them a lot of typically Jewish political stances: e.g., pro-Israel and pro-immigration.

    Now, my pro-Semitism came about even though I was being raised in my (adoptive) family, which has no Jewish relatives, and, in fact, has a slight anti-Semitic mindset. (I realize my case is only a single data point, so I recommend somebody conduct a formal adoption study of Jews and part-Jews adopted by gentile families.) In the future, however, most children of the IQ elite will have Jews in their extended relatives, which will make my kind of pro-Semitism even more widespread in the future.

    Steve Sailer

    • Replies: @helena
    That's brilliant; 1999? (I'm surprised Sailer is as much as 50% jewish.) I mentioned this process a while ago because it seems strange that neither HBD nor KM have really looked at the incredible mating strategy that accompanies Jewish cultural and political prominence. Genes are imported into the tribe (often deliberately from high class/IQ sector - great genetic strategy) and importantly a lot of genes are exported outwards creating a more pro-Jewish social environment. [I had thought only in the sense of loyalty, as in support for immigration from those with a jewish grandparent etc. but what steve is talking about, genes directing cultural behaviours, is fascinating. ]
    , @Earl of Monahan
    Is this for real? The earliest appearance of this quote I can find is here - https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/evolutionary-psychology/conversations/topics/2725

    which seems questionable. Except that apparently Razib re-posted it here - http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/000770.html

    As a proud (((Eskimo))) and avid reader of Sailer, it would be great to claim him as a landsman , but I'm skeptical. Since when is Steve a huge fan of Milton Friedman or of neo-cons? Views change over time, but the quote never addresses that. Seems fishy to me.
    , @Lot

    Since I was adopted, a few years later I concluded that it was likely that I was half-Jewish biologically, (which indeed appears to be the case based on evidence my wife dug up when I was 30).
     
    Welcome to the half-Ashkenazi Christian club my brother! Assuming your wife was correct. For $199 23andme will tell you for sure, providing an estimate down to the tenth of a percentage point.

    My bet however is the half-Jewish info is probably wrong. I'd guess the percentage of babies up for adoption who are Jewish is under 0.5%. They are less likely to get knocked up young, more likely to get an abortion the rare events that do happen, and likely to have "waited too long" Jewish relatives or spinster aunts who would raise an unwanted baby.

    outraged by her desire to attend a Christian summer camp with a friend
     
    I went to an evangelical christian summer bible day camp one month per summer for a few years.

    My best friend's mother talked my mother into making me attend. It was actually plenty of fun but I nonetheless objected on the grounds that I had to get up every morning in the summer at 7am.

    The best part was probably sneaking off and kissing girls (closed mouth only, we were 9, 10, 11, and 12) and the muddy tug-of-war.

    The least fun part was that we were given little fortune-cookie style slips of paper with a single bible verse every day and told to recite it the next morning.
  93. Buddhists say that identity is an error.
    The scientific textbook tells at least that identity is a social construct, i.e. it partly depends on how others identify you.
    Accusation is the most energetic way others identify you – and the most important reason why social identities are kept at all over periods of time. If you want to accuse Mr. X for what he did fourty years ago to you – and whoever doesn’t want that -, you have to imply that the Mr.X of now is the same person he was fourty years ago.

  94. @Big Bill
    Recycled Bill Cosby stand-up act, ca. 1965. On one of his albums, Bill has his father yell, "I brought you into this world. I can take you out."

    “I brought you into this world. I can take you out.”

    Weird. I remember hollering that at a slow-growing Chia Pet.

    Thought I had made it up.

  95. @anon
    "This is New York City. The most diverse place in the world. And in New York, we protect our own and we don't give a f--- what anyone looks like or who they love, or any of those things. It's time for you to leave these women alone, Sir."

    It's possible that something LIKE that happened, but that statement was never uttered by anoyone.

    It’s an old classic quote from opposite-day John Rocker.

  96. Slightly OT:

    I can’t believe the Hamilton musical people are paying royalties to Ron Chernow. Somebody in there doesn’t know how to do business. Hamilton’s story is in the public domain and I can’t imagine that there is anything about Chernow’s book specifically (it’s a straightforward biography) that makes it particularly well suited for adaptation into a musical. Besides, how hard is it to do some outside reading? Maybe even, gasp, take a look at another biography? But, even if the only damn thing you looked at was Chernow, you don’t bloody announce that only thing you’ve ever looked at is Chernow.

    • Replies: @Richard
    Chernow is a high-brow, respected author, and having him associated with Miranda's hiphop musical helped make the idea acceptable (and bankable) to people who would never dream of going to a hiphop anything.
  97. “I am still your father” – how Star Wars.

  98. Ernst Juenger, author of “Storm of Steel”, his memoir of service in the German Army in World War I, had some German soldiers prancing about in French dresses during a lull in the 1914 invasion of France. Are we expected to believe those soldiers were “transitioning”, or, more likely, they were “acting out” in revulsion at how they were being used to further the grand game of their political masters?

  99. Moshe says: • Website
    @SPMoore8
    I lived in Manhattan for ten years and I never heard anyone speechifying on the subway unless they were off their meds; certainly never heard a speech like that.

    I thought the story was a hoax when I first saw it yesterday, bu when my own family started sharing it with me and telling me that they also thought it was fake, I figured I'd share.

    I must have speechified on the train a dozen times. It’s fun. Heck, last year I was in nyc and got my half of the train to, very literally sing Stand By Me. I’ve also given bullshit speeches, motivational speeches (some Mexican lady was so moved she teared up and gave me $5 and wouldn’t take it back), and once, back in the day, the spirit of the Lord came over me and I suddenly stood up, pointed to my long time friend Avi and shouted “Terrorist!”. Hey, see something, say something.

    There’s no reason the commute should be dull. You only live once, my friend 🙂

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    You may have single-handedly inspired the invention of the silent car.
  100. @Thursday
    Slightly OT:

    I can't believe the Hamilton musical people are paying royalties to Ron Chernow. Somebody in there doesn't know how to do business. Hamilton's story is in the public domain and I can't imagine that there is anything about Chernow's book specifically (it's a straightforward biography) that makes it particularly well suited for adaptation into a musical. Besides, how hard is it to do some outside reading? Maybe even, gasp, take a look at another biography? But, even if the only damn thing you looked at was Chernow, you don't bloody announce that only thing you've ever looked at is Chernow.

    Chernow is a high-brow, respected author, and having him associated with Miranda’s hiphop musical helped make the idea acceptable (and bankable) to people who would never dream of going to a hiphop anything.

  101. @Njguy73
    It's not gender dysphoria. It's not autogynephilia.

    It's careerism.

    These men are realizing that it's not cool to be a overbearing man, but way cool to be an overbearing woman. Just making a lateral move. No different than a catcher with bad knees moving to first base to keep his bat in the lineup.

    These men don't care what gender/race/religion/whatever they are part of, just so long as it's the one with the upper hand.

    They are, as Faludi described her former dad, "ciphers, cryptic to everyone around them.” They are whatever you want them to be.

    I’ve met guys like that too. Everyone of them would do anything for a promotion and most turned into the most despicable POS imaginable as a result. I watched them take endless abuse by their managers and merely nodded in return, they volunteered for all the non-paid overtime they could get. Work the weekend for free? No problem. Come in on Christmas? No problem. Come to work after a spinal tap, ditto.

    I don’t know what went on in their noggins but they had to have been in hell.

  102. I just came from reading Hillary’s leaked docs on Trump and other things, and my brain if full. That is going to be interesting!

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-15/hacker-who-breached-democratic-national-committee-server-posts-confidential-trump-hi

    But now I am stuck trying to remember what article I appreciated by Susan Faludi in the late eighties or early nineties, before Backlash.

    I can’t remember and can’t figure out the right Google search terms.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    She won a Pulitzer for an article on the leveraged buyout of Safeway grocery stores.
  103. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Carpeting could increase blunt force trauma, no? Similar to how punches to the head with boxing gloves are more concussive than bare knuckles.

    Boxing gloves causes more head trauma because they allow boxers to aim hard punches at the head without risking breaking bones in their hands (which does happen even with gloves), not because the gloves cause more concussion by themselves.

    Unless there’s some really weird physics going on with more energy being transmitted through longer contact or something like that. But that’s certainly not the mainstram explanation for why gloves cause more head trauma and seems prima facie absurd.

    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    You are correct. Gloves reduce the likelihood of hand damage. Gloves also reduce the likelihood of bleeding faces. A bare-knuckled punch is much more likely to result in facial cuts of the sort that would cause referees to stop bouts.

    I don't have the data to make the case but my strong suspicion is that MMA fighters suffer less brain trauma in the octagon than boxers do in the ring.
  104. @wren
    I just came from reading Hillary's leaked docs on Trump and other things, and my brain if full. That is going to be interesting!

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-15/hacker-who-breached-democratic-national-committee-server-posts-confidential-trump-hi

    But now I am stuck trying to remember what article I appreciated by Susan Faludi in the late eighties or early nineties, before Backlash.

    I can't remember and can't figure out the right Google search terms.

    She won a Pulitzer for an article on the leveraged buyout of Safeway grocery stores.

    • Replies: @wren
    Yeah, that wasn't the one. Oh well. Only so much junk my brain can hold I guess.
    , @wren
    "Broken Promise: How Everyone Got Hawaiians' Homelands Except the Hawaiians.'' Wall Street Journal, 1991. Susan Faludi.
  105. The most deplorable one [AKA "#Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:

    When you don’t control the media you can produce so much anti-white propaganda.

  106. @Stan Adams
    Sailer on the Future of Intermarriage

    12:02 PM Fri 4 Jun 99

    Steve Sailer here:

    It's interesting to speculate on the future of intermarriage in America. Marriages are increasingly likely to be between people of different ethnic groups but of similar IQ's, and there's no reason to assume this trend will stop. America's obsession with sending everybody to college means that young people get sorted by SAT score (i.e., IQ) when they're at their most romantic. Therefore, it's quite possible that the top dogs in America will in future generations look different than they do now, but they probably won't look much like the future underdogs, either. If we were to halt immigration now, continuing intermarriage along IQ lines might in many generations lead to the country being run by an IQ overclass of mostly "Jeurasians" (i.e., a genetic blend of the smarter European gentiles, Jews, East Asians, South Asians, Armenians, and possibly other Middle Easterners). In contrast, the lower ranks might consist largely of "Redblex": a rather lumpy partial blend of redneck whites, blacks, and Mexicans.

    Of course, continued immigration slows genetic and cultural assimilation. For example, right now Japanese-Americans are fading into Eurasians because of the decline in immigration from Japan (since there are no terribly poor people left in Japan) and their very high rate of intermarriage with whites (especially for Japanese-American women). Chinese-Americans, in contrast, can be expected to remain a distinct ethnic group for several generations more (despite a high rate of intermarriage), since there is no imminent shortage of poor Chinese desperate to come to America.

    The Jews are another interesting case to speculate about. The next generation of the "IQ elite" (e.g., Ivy Leaguers or lawyers or media figures or frequent flyers or whatever category you think representative) may well have a lower percentage of pure Jews ... but a higher percentage of part-Jews, as intermarriage between Jews and smart gentiles continues.

    Would this mean the non-violent extinction of Jews (except for the Orthodox)? Possibly, but it might also imply that America's overclass would become even more dominated by Jewish attitudes, e.g., Hitler-obsession (which has played such a major role in influencing the views on the Balkans of our Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, National Security Adviser, and their colleagues). In the future most highly articulate white Americans will be related to Jews by genes or marriage, which no doubt will impact what views are popular in society (even more than today, when a Marlon Brando is automatically excoriated for saying that Jews have lots of power in Hollywood!)

    For an extreme example of how pro-Semitism can come about within an individual merely through genes alone, consider me. Although I'm Catholic, I became very pro-Semitic at the age of 13 when my powers of logic kicked in (and my hair turned curly). I quickly noticed that a high percentage of the thinkers I either agreed with (e.g., Milton Friedman) or whom I considered it a worthy challenge to argue against were Jewish. Since I was adopted, a few years later I concluded that it was likely that I was half-Jewish biologically, (which indeed appears to be the case based on evidence my wife dug up when I was 30). It's important to understand the chain of causation: having a very Jewish-style brain (e.g., enjoying logical argument), I sought out the best logical arguers to read, very many of whom were Jewish. (You may object that my political views today don't sound much like those of the majority of American Jews, but I was enormously influenced by Jewish neoconservatives in the 1970s and 1980s. Having gone to some lengths to expose myself to Jewish thinkers (not because they were Jewish per se, but because those who most stimulated my kind of mind more than writers from other ethnic groups), I absorbed from them a lot of typically Jewish political stances: e.g., pro-Israel and pro-immigration.

    Now, my pro-Semitism came about even though I was being raised in my (adoptive) family, which has no Jewish relatives, and, in fact, has a slight anti-Semitic mindset. (I realize my case is only a single data point, so I recommend somebody conduct a formal adoption study of Jews and part-Jews adopted by gentile families.) In the future, however, most children of the IQ elite will have Jews in their extended relatives, which will make my kind of pro-Semitism even more widespread in the future.

    Steve Sailer

    That’s brilliant; 1999? (I’m surprised Sailer is as much as 50% jewish.) I mentioned this process a while ago because it seems strange that neither HBD nor KM have really looked at the incredible mating strategy that accompanies Jewish cultural and political prominence. Genes are imported into the tribe (often deliberately from high class/IQ sector – great genetic strategy) and importantly a lot of genes are exported outwards creating a more pro-Jewish social environment. [I had thought only in the sense of loyalty, as in support for immigration from those with a jewish grandparent etc. but what steve is talking about, genes directing cultural behaviours, is fascinating. ]

    • Replies: @syonredux

    That’s brilliant; 1999? (I’m surprised Sailer is as much as 50% jewish.) I mentioned this process a while ago because it seems strange that neither HBD nor KM have really looked at the incredible mating strategy that accompanies Jewish cultural and political prominence. Genes are imported into the tribe (often deliberately from high class/IQ sector – great genetic strategy) and importantly a lot of genes are exported outwards creating a more pro-Jewish social environment. [I had thought only in the sense of loyalty, as in support for immigration from those with a jewish grandparent etc. but what steve is talking about, genes directing cultural behaviours, is fascinating. ]
     
    Be interesting to study the inverse. My Ashkenazi mother has a reverential attitude towards all things Anglo-Saxon (for example, she grew up worshiping Robert E Lee). And, from a very early age, she was determined to marry a WASP, preferentially one with deep ancestral ties to the USA. That way, she felt, her children would be Anglo-American by blood, and not merely by choice.

    As near as I can tell, her reasoning seems to be quite sound. I'm half-Ashkenazi , half English-Scottish, and my sense of personal identity is entirely Anglo.
  107. @Stan Adams
    Sailer on the Future of Intermarriage

    12:02 PM Fri 4 Jun 99

    Steve Sailer here:

    It's interesting to speculate on the future of intermarriage in America. Marriages are increasingly likely to be between people of different ethnic groups but of similar IQ's, and there's no reason to assume this trend will stop. America's obsession with sending everybody to college means that young people get sorted by SAT score (i.e., IQ) when they're at their most romantic. Therefore, it's quite possible that the top dogs in America will in future generations look different than they do now, but they probably won't look much like the future underdogs, either. If we were to halt immigration now, continuing intermarriage along IQ lines might in many generations lead to the country being run by an IQ overclass of mostly "Jeurasians" (i.e., a genetic blend of the smarter European gentiles, Jews, East Asians, South Asians, Armenians, and possibly other Middle Easterners). In contrast, the lower ranks might consist largely of "Redblex": a rather lumpy partial blend of redneck whites, blacks, and Mexicans.

    Of course, continued immigration slows genetic and cultural assimilation. For example, right now Japanese-Americans are fading into Eurasians because of the decline in immigration from Japan (since there are no terribly poor people left in Japan) and their very high rate of intermarriage with whites (especially for Japanese-American women). Chinese-Americans, in contrast, can be expected to remain a distinct ethnic group for several generations more (despite a high rate of intermarriage), since there is no imminent shortage of poor Chinese desperate to come to America.

    The Jews are another interesting case to speculate about. The next generation of the "IQ elite" (e.g., Ivy Leaguers or lawyers or media figures or frequent flyers or whatever category you think representative) may well have a lower percentage of pure Jews ... but a higher percentage of part-Jews, as intermarriage between Jews and smart gentiles continues.

    Would this mean the non-violent extinction of Jews (except for the Orthodox)? Possibly, but it might also imply that America's overclass would become even more dominated by Jewish attitudes, e.g., Hitler-obsession (which has played such a major role in influencing the views on the Balkans of our Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, National Security Adviser, and their colleagues). In the future most highly articulate white Americans will be related to Jews by genes or marriage, which no doubt will impact what views are popular in society (even more than today, when a Marlon Brando is automatically excoriated for saying that Jews have lots of power in Hollywood!)

    For an extreme example of how pro-Semitism can come about within an individual merely through genes alone, consider me. Although I'm Catholic, I became very pro-Semitic at the age of 13 when my powers of logic kicked in (and my hair turned curly). I quickly noticed that a high percentage of the thinkers I either agreed with (e.g., Milton Friedman) or whom I considered it a worthy challenge to argue against were Jewish. Since I was adopted, a few years later I concluded that it was likely that I was half-Jewish biologically, (which indeed appears to be the case based on evidence my wife dug up when I was 30). It's important to understand the chain of causation: having a very Jewish-style brain (e.g., enjoying logical argument), I sought out the best logical arguers to read, very many of whom were Jewish. (You may object that my political views today don't sound much like those of the majority of American Jews, but I was enormously influenced by Jewish neoconservatives in the 1970s and 1980s. Having gone to some lengths to expose myself to Jewish thinkers (not because they were Jewish per se, but because those who most stimulated my kind of mind more than writers from other ethnic groups), I absorbed from them a lot of typically Jewish political stances: e.g., pro-Israel and pro-immigration.

    Now, my pro-Semitism came about even though I was being raised in my (adoptive) family, which has no Jewish relatives, and, in fact, has a slight anti-Semitic mindset. (I realize my case is only a single data point, so I recommend somebody conduct a formal adoption study of Jews and part-Jews adopted by gentile families.) In the future, however, most children of the IQ elite will have Jews in their extended relatives, which will make my kind of pro-Semitism even more widespread in the future.

    Steve Sailer

    Is this for real? The earliest appearance of this quote I can find is here – https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/evolutionary-psychology/conversations/topics/2725

    which seems questionable. Except that apparently Razib re-posted it here – http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/000770.html

    As a proud (((Eskimo))) and avid reader of Sailer, it would be great to claim him as a landsman , but I’m skeptical. Since when is Steve a huge fan of Milton Friedman or of neo-cons? Views change over time, but the quote never addresses that. Seems fishy to me.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams

    I. P. is an evolutionary psychologist who was was one of the very earliest members on the Human Biodiversity Institute mailing list by Steve Sailer.
     
    (I am not posting I.P.'s full name. You can see it if you click the link.)

    The HBI mailing list began on or around Thursday, March 4, 1999. (That is when the earliest members all joined, according to a roster Steve posted on his old AOL site.)

    I. P. joined the list on Sunday, March 14, 1999.

    Steve posted his piece about his pro-Semitic views to his mailing list(?) on Friday, June 4, 1999.

    I.P. posted his Steve-bashing comments to the evolutionary-psychology listserv on Tuesday, February 1, 2000.

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/evolutionary-psychology/conversations/topics/2725

    From: "I. P."

    Another strange piece from Steve Sailer containing all the usual fallacies...
     
    In 2003, I.P. wrote in an e-mail:

    please note that I am not connected with Steve Salier or his "Human Biodiversity Institute" and that I have not written about or expressed any public opinion at all about transsexualism. I did belong to Sailer's list for a while, but left after he continually blocked my postings, presumably because he didn't approve of the content.
     
  108. @Anonymous
    One of the side effects of steroid use is increase in natural estrogen levels produced by the body. There is a homeostatic mechanism in the body whereby higher testosterone is accompanied by higher estrogen. Higher testosterone men may have higher estrogen levels than lower testosterone men. That may be involved here with these high testosterone men who go transgender as they get older. Their testosterone levels may drop off while their estrogen levels don't decline as much or remain elevated.

    Although the autogynephilia argument is probably dismissed too lightly, the gender identity explaination for gender dysmorphia in relatively masculine men also isn’t explained very well either. The argument is that male to female crossdressers and transsexuals have a subconscious female sex identity which is caused by a shortage of testosterone at some stage in the womb. However, in terms of gender expression they have normal, masculine male brains which don’t look like those of women or feminine homosexuals (who receive too much estrogen in the womb). Hence they exhibit normal male gender expression as boys, but then start to feel like female porn stars as soon as they hit puberty and experience a surge in testosterone. The resurgence of these feelings in middle age has yet to be explained but probably has something to do with the neurotransmitter dopamine, which tends to fall quicker than testosterone (we experience a number dopamine crashes over the lifetime starting in late childhood, when we suddenly stop getting excited about opening Christmas presents).

    This argument does have some support from biological research which suggests than animals have an internal map of what sex they are and how they are supposed to act and feel in sex related situations. For example, birds don’t find out they are male or female by looking at their birdy privates (which they can’t see) they just know instinctively that they are male or female, and that they are supposed to conduct a range of behaviours appropriate to their genetic sex.

    If gynephilic trannies do have insufficiently masculined brains in the sex department (but are otherwise relatively masculine) then the last thing they need to do is to hit the weights and take steroids or take uppers like cocaine. This is only likely to make them feel like uptight, anxious, aggressive, etc. They should be calming their brains rather than hyping them up.

    • Replies: @Njguy73
    We need secular monastic orders. Places where older men with declining testosterone can contribute to the world without the pressure to be high-achieving.

    Stupid idea? I'm talking crazy?

    Then give me a better idea, 'cause the ones we got now ain't workin'.
  109. @Steve Sailer
    She won a Pulitzer for an article on the leveraged buyout of Safeway grocery stores.

    Yeah, that wasn’t the one. Oh well. Only so much junk my brain can hold I guess.

  110. Lot says:
    @Ragno
    Both Bob Tur and the other Flyin' Tranny (Dirk Vahle) come off, pre and post makeover-pix, as two mostly-insufferable swaggering pricks. Literally and figuratively. In both cases, these Profiles in Courage have shown no balls to live with ......uhh.....no balls.

    (And when are we going to stop letting these Castration Cowards off the hook? Over the last few years, we've been lectured endlessly about what to call - and never to call - these deeply-aberrational defectives....well, we could use a term that refers to shameless attention whores who insist on announcing their New Gender Status with a flounce of petticoats and 'glamour' pix, but who otherwise refuse to put their money where their meat is and LOP OFF THE OFFENDING ORGAN. As far as I'm concerned, a "woman" with a functioning penis is just an ugly man in a dress.)

    You're never going to win World War T with nothing but conscientious objectors, Mr President. For which , thank God.

    And when are we going to stop letting these Castration Cowards off the hook?

    YES!

    I don’t care much if society decides to let men who chop off their wang and grow breasts with hormones officially become women. The percentage of men who want to do this seems to be out 1 in 500 to 1000, and we ought to show some compassion toward their plight.

    But transvestites who just get kinkier with age? Nope, you do not get to be “women” unless you chop it off.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    You're suggesting that there aren't already sufficient sentient beings who could actually benefit from my compassion. I'll keep mine there, thanks.

    I have only so many positive resources. Wages is one. Patience another.

    That famous white-people empathy and altruism is yet another. Last thing I need is the Gubmint playing Forced Compassion Redistribution Robin Hood for mentally ill fringe-dwellers, who proliferate not only in category and numbers but the esoterica of their "plights."

  111. @anonymous-antimarxist
    Yes, and this explains why in cases of Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome the XY fetus results in a female phenotype that is often in many ways ultra feminine. All that testosterone is converted to estrogen.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_androgen_insensitivity_syndrome

    You made some really good points.

    It would seem to me that with some honest research a heteronormative treatment for autogynephilia would be possible that would have far more likely therapeutic success than gender reassignment.

    But transsexualism is INBORN and it’s the RIGHT that’s ANTI-SCIENCE!

    The truth, of course, is racist, sexist and homo/transphobic. Doesn’t fit the narrative.

    As a Christian I can only comfort myself in what they say about liars…

  112. @Jefferson
    "OT, sorta — I have had family members share this story with me concerning a moment of unity in diversity on the NY subway, and they have expressed skepticism. Frankly, I find it hard to believe, and I also find it hard to believe that there would be strategically placed gay, black, asian and (of course) ROMANIAN passengers to take umbrage with the alleged Trump supporter.

    But make up your own minds:"

    Are Romanians now considered allies of The KKKrazy Glue's war on Whites?

    Also that incident could be turned into an ABC After School Special film on fighting Islamophobia. John Goodman plays the Trump supporter and Michael B. Jordan plays the Black guy on the NYC subway train who stands up to him.

    Are Romanians now considered allies of The KKKrazy Glue’s war on Whites?

    Is ‘Romanian’ code for Gypsy/Roma? It usually is.

    • Agree: Nico
  113. @SFG
    "bright Jewish daughter grows up angry (sometimes with good reason, as in Susan Faludi’s case) at at least one member of her Jewish family. But she learns that she’ll be rewarded if she generalizes and intellectualizes her resentment of a Jewish relative into blaming her animus on Society or Men or Stereotypes or anti-Semites or whatever it is that gentiles can be badgered into feeling guilty about."

    There's a lot to this, but I wonder if it was also at least in part an unfortunate side effect of having a larger than average crop of 120+ IQ women who weren't going to find mothering intellectually stimulating enough *plus* a tendency toward intellectual leftism since the right was historically the more anti-Semitic side *plus* a lack of value on traditional masculinity since Jewish men didn't engage in physical occupations historically.

    I mean, feminists really do believe their own BS--they engage in behaviors repulsive to men and encourage each other not to reproduce, which doesn't sound to me like a very evolutionarily successful strategy. It's got to be a side product of something else. (And I doubt Kevin MacDonald's ideas apply here, since there's no evidence Jewish feminists spawn any more than gentile ones. Mercifully.)

    BTW, ever wonder why there's so much intermarriage? ;)

    I doubt Kevin MacDonald’s ideas apply here, since there’s no evidence Jewish feminists spawn any more than gentile ones. Mercifully.

    Numerically or proportionately? I think the question of relative contribution is relevant here.

    I also think that there are a number of strictly biological correlations and parallels to the phenomenon MacDonald lay out. If MacDonald were to write a sequel to The Culture of Critique he should collaborate with an evolutionary behavioral geneticist and a social historian to trace the reduction of the Jewish gene pool in the wake of mass conversions to Christianity during the final centuries of the Roman Empire.

    BTW, ever wonder why there’s so much intermarriage?

    One of my good friends – a Protestant – from second-year in school told me about watching Fiddler on the Roof with several Jewish friends back during adolescence. One of the girls was distraught: “How come the only pretty girl in the film was the Christian?!”

    My friend didn’t have the heart to answer the question but she had no qualms acknowledging to me the truth.

  114. Lot says:
    @Stan Adams
    Sailer on the Future of Intermarriage

    12:02 PM Fri 4 Jun 99

    Steve Sailer here:

    It's interesting to speculate on the future of intermarriage in America. Marriages are increasingly likely to be between people of different ethnic groups but of similar IQ's, and there's no reason to assume this trend will stop. America's obsession with sending everybody to college means that young people get sorted by SAT score (i.e., IQ) when they're at their most romantic. Therefore, it's quite possible that the top dogs in America will in future generations look different than they do now, but they probably won't look much like the future underdogs, either. If we were to halt immigration now, continuing intermarriage along IQ lines might in many generations lead to the country being run by an IQ overclass of mostly "Jeurasians" (i.e., a genetic blend of the smarter European gentiles, Jews, East Asians, South Asians, Armenians, and possibly other Middle Easterners). In contrast, the lower ranks might consist largely of "Redblex": a rather lumpy partial blend of redneck whites, blacks, and Mexicans.

    Of course, continued immigration slows genetic and cultural assimilation. For example, right now Japanese-Americans are fading into Eurasians because of the decline in immigration from Japan (since there are no terribly poor people left in Japan) and their very high rate of intermarriage with whites (especially for Japanese-American women). Chinese-Americans, in contrast, can be expected to remain a distinct ethnic group for several generations more (despite a high rate of intermarriage), since there is no imminent shortage of poor Chinese desperate to come to America.

    The Jews are another interesting case to speculate about. The next generation of the "IQ elite" (e.g., Ivy Leaguers or lawyers or media figures or frequent flyers or whatever category you think representative) may well have a lower percentage of pure Jews ... but a higher percentage of part-Jews, as intermarriage between Jews and smart gentiles continues.

    Would this mean the non-violent extinction of Jews (except for the Orthodox)? Possibly, but it might also imply that America's overclass would become even more dominated by Jewish attitudes, e.g., Hitler-obsession (which has played such a major role in influencing the views on the Balkans of our Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, National Security Adviser, and their colleagues). In the future most highly articulate white Americans will be related to Jews by genes or marriage, which no doubt will impact what views are popular in society (even more than today, when a Marlon Brando is automatically excoriated for saying that Jews have lots of power in Hollywood!)

    For an extreme example of how pro-Semitism can come about within an individual merely through genes alone, consider me. Although I'm Catholic, I became very pro-Semitic at the age of 13 when my powers of logic kicked in (and my hair turned curly). I quickly noticed that a high percentage of the thinkers I either agreed with (e.g., Milton Friedman) or whom I considered it a worthy challenge to argue against were Jewish. Since I was adopted, a few years later I concluded that it was likely that I was half-Jewish biologically, (which indeed appears to be the case based on evidence my wife dug up when I was 30). It's important to understand the chain of causation: having a very Jewish-style brain (e.g., enjoying logical argument), I sought out the best logical arguers to read, very many of whom were Jewish. (You may object that my political views today don't sound much like those of the majority of American Jews, but I was enormously influenced by Jewish neoconservatives in the 1970s and 1980s. Having gone to some lengths to expose myself to Jewish thinkers (not because they were Jewish per se, but because those who most stimulated my kind of mind more than writers from other ethnic groups), I absorbed from them a lot of typically Jewish political stances: e.g., pro-Israel and pro-immigration.

    Now, my pro-Semitism came about even though I was being raised in my (adoptive) family, which has no Jewish relatives, and, in fact, has a slight anti-Semitic mindset. (I realize my case is only a single data point, so I recommend somebody conduct a formal adoption study of Jews and part-Jews adopted by gentile families.) In the future, however, most children of the IQ elite will have Jews in their extended relatives, which will make my kind of pro-Semitism even more widespread in the future.

    Steve Sailer

    Since I was adopted, a few years later I concluded that it was likely that I was half-Jewish biologically, (which indeed appears to be the case based on evidence my wife dug up when I was 30).

    Welcome to the half-Ashkenazi Christian club my brother! Assuming your wife was correct. For $199 23andme will tell you for sure, providing an estimate down to the tenth of a percentage point.

    My bet however is the half-Jewish info is probably wrong. I’d guess the percentage of babies up for adoption who are Jewish is under 0.5%. They are less likely to get knocked up young, more likely to get an abortion the rare events that do happen, and likely to have “waited too long” Jewish relatives or spinster aunts who would raise an unwanted baby.

    outraged by her desire to attend a Christian summer camp with a friend

    I went to an evangelical christian summer bible day camp one month per summer for a few years.

    My best friend’s mother talked my mother into making me attend. It was actually plenty of fun but I nonetheless objected on the grounds that I had to get up every morning in the summer at 7am.

    The best part was probably sneaking off and kissing girls (closed mouth only, we were 9, 10, 11, and 12) and the muddy tug-of-war.

    The least fun part was that we were given little fortune-cookie style slips of paper with a single bible verse every day and told to recite it the next morning.

    • Replies: @SFG
    I also wonder if people are claiming to have Jewish ancestors (not on the alt-right of course) because it makes them sound more interesting. Kind of like the whole 'I have an Indian great-grandfather', except it's an excuse for business savvy instead of wilderness skills.
    , @Anonymous
    There was an adoption agency in New York, the Louise Wise agency, that handled the cases of many Jewish adoptees decades ago. That agency has come up in the press a few times since the late 1990's:


    A Son Given Up for Adoption is Found After Half a Century and Then Lost Again

    What the Jumans Didn't Know About Michael
  115. @Steve Sailer
    She won a Pulitzer for an article on the leveraged buyout of Safeway grocery stores.

    “Broken Promise: How Everyone Got Hawaiians’ Homelands Except the Hawaiians.” Wall Street Journal, 1991. Susan Faludi.

  116. Lot says:
    @Ron Unz
    It really seems that in recent years a remarkable fraction of our most influential public intellectuals have come from families with seemingly hereditary mental illness...

    Maybe that explains some of the odder aspects of our current society...

    It really seems that in recent years a remarkable fraction of our most influential public intellectuals have come from families with seemingly hereditary mental illness…

    Based on anecdotes like this? In reality mental illness has a strong inverse correlation with socioeconomic status. Professional writers might be more likely to have mental problems than other high IQ people simply because it allows them to avoid 9-5 workplaces.

  117. @SPMoore8
    OT, sorta -- I have had family members share this story with me concerning a moment of unity in diversity on the NY subway, and they have expressed skepticism. Frankly, I find it hard to believe, and I also find it hard to believe that there would be strategically placed gay, black, asian and (of course) ROMANIAN passengers to take umbrage with the alleged Trump supporter.

    But make up your own minds:

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Muslim-Women-Harassed-Subway-New-York-City-Queensbridge-F-Train-383147481.html

    Finally, notoriety at last! And I agree that Romanian can become an adequate racial marker, the way the media is using it t refer to European peoples of subcontinental descent (and I mean descent).

    You’re going to laugh, but I was peeved as a youngster by the lack of mention (name-dropping) of my country in the popular media I was viewing. Hungary, Serbia etc have a lot higher profiles in the Western mind, possibly because they historically sent out more immigrants than Romania (which only in the post-communist era came into its own as a phenomenon). To the lower classes before globalization, especially peasants, immigrating shamed your family by breaking the bond with the land, diminishing the extended family’s capacity for solidarity etc. There are even jokes about this, with a peasant wanting to go to America in the 1930, and going to the train station to get a ticket bound for a port city on the European Atlantic coast. The teller asks him where he’s going so he can give him the ticket, and the peasant shouts “what the f*** is it to you?”.

    So, it’s the late 90s and I’m watching the terrific spy show La femme Nikita. Suddenly, Michael says something about an operative being attacked by “Romanian guerillas operating near Bucharest”. My 13 year old self was elated. Later, the Hitman gaming franchise placed the insane asylum where the doctor performed the genetic experiments and cruel/brutal conditioning that created Agent 47 and his clone brothers in Romania (also a level in one of the games). Cue high fives from all of my gamer friends. If Call of Duty ever lets you shoot Romanian terrorists, we will have made it in the public consciousness.

    On a related note, are ethnic markers becoming appropriate replacements for Whites in the victim totem pole in order for goodwhites who can pull it off to differentiate themselves from badwhites? “No, man, he ain’t White-White, he Hungarian. Those immigrants have it hard man. They just like us”. Or so budding SJWs would like to think.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    "Romania -- at least we're more famous than Bulgaria!"

    Bulgaria is amazingly obscure. When my son got a chance to go to Bulgaria for $400 I told him all about this 1990 World Cup game in Chicago I went to in Chicago where Bulgaria defeated Greece 4-0. He thought that sounded like a ridiculous thing to bring up in conversation with Bulgarians, but then it turned out that Bulgarians appreciated his anecdote about one of the highlights of their history.

    My impression is that what makes a place a tourist attraction and famous is having at some point been top dog over your neighborhood and thus being able to tax your neighbors and thus afford to build a lot of future ruins. As far as I can tell, the territory of Bulgaria has never for long been an imperial capital so the locals never got to exploit their neighbors and build themselves spectacular stuff.

    In contrast, when you're walking around Hagia Sophia and the Blue Mosque in Istanbul, you have to imagine the locals taxed a lot of Bulgarian peasants over the years to be able to afford stuff like this.
    , @SFG
    Hey, don't forget 'Dragostea din Tei!'
    , @Kylie
    Vlad the Impaler and Bran Castle. Is that notorious enough for you?
    , @Brutusale
    Not in Olympic weightlifting!
    , @Bill Jones
    Here's the sum total of everything I know about your country.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/executioner-who-killed-romanian-dictator-4851422
  118. @Jefferson
    "He writes long, thoughtful essays about random intellectual and political topics.

    He’d probably actually make a really good secular Jew."

    So Steve is not even a little bit Jewish like a quarter?

    Steve is adopted by Catholics, so who knows. Pay attention, people.

    • Agree: Spmoore8
  119. @Romanian
    Finally, notoriety at last! And I agree that Romanian can become an adequate racial marker, the way the media is using it t refer to European peoples of subcontinental descent (and I mean descent).

    You're going to laugh, but I was peeved as a youngster by the lack of mention (name-dropping) of my country in the popular media I was viewing. Hungary, Serbia etc have a lot higher profiles in the Western mind, possibly because they historically sent out more immigrants than Romania (which only in the post-communist era came into its own as a phenomenon). To the lower classes before globalization, especially peasants, immigrating shamed your family by breaking the bond with the land, diminishing the extended family's capacity for solidarity etc. There are even jokes about this, with a peasant wanting to go to America in the 1930, and going to the train station to get a ticket bound for a port city on the European Atlantic coast. The teller asks him where he's going so he can give him the ticket, and the peasant shouts "what the f*** is it to you?".

    So, it's the late 90s and I'm watching the terrific spy show La femme Nikita. Suddenly, Michael says something about an operative being attacked by "Romanian guerillas operating near Bucharest". My 13 year old self was elated. Later, the Hitman gaming franchise placed the insane asylum where the doctor performed the genetic experiments and cruel/brutal conditioning that created Agent 47 and his clone brothers in Romania (also a level in one of the games). Cue high fives from all of my gamer friends. If Call of Duty ever lets you shoot Romanian terrorists, we will have made it in the public consciousness.

    On a related note, are ethnic markers becoming appropriate replacements for Whites in the victim totem pole in order for goodwhites who can pull it off to differentiate themselves from badwhites? "No, man, he ain't White-White, he Hungarian. Those immigrants have it hard man. They just like us". Or so budding SJWs would like to think.

    “Romania — at least we’re more famous than Bulgaria!”

    Bulgaria is amazingly obscure. When my son got a chance to go to Bulgaria for $400 I told him all about this 1990 World Cup game in Chicago I went to in Chicago where Bulgaria defeated Greece 4-0. He thought that sounded like a ridiculous thing to bring up in conversation with Bulgarians, but then it turned out that Bulgarians appreciated his anecdote about one of the highlights of their history.

    My impression is that what makes a place a tourist attraction and famous is having at some point been top dog over your neighborhood and thus being able to tax your neighbors and thus afford to build a lot of future ruins. As far as I can tell, the territory of Bulgaria has never for long been an imperial capital so the locals never got to exploit their neighbors and build themselves spectacular stuff.

    In contrast, when you’re walking around Hagia Sophia and the Blue Mosque in Istanbul, you have to imagine the locals taxed a lot of Bulgarian peasants over the years to be able to afford stuff like this.

    • Agree: Romanian
    • Replies: @ReaderfromGreece
    He thought that sounded like a ridiculous thing to bring up in conversation with Bulgarians, but then it turned out that Bulgarians appreciated his anecdote about one of the highlights of their history.

    That's hilarious, but they are undermining themselves. Bulgaria has a very interesting culture with regards to a number of hot topics, such as gender equality and multiculturalism. Their role in WWII is also fascinating and ought to be more known. Did your son enjoy his time there? Sofia is a really pleasant city despite its poverty, and Bulgarians have a surprisingly warm, open, and level-headed character considering their history and Balkan geography.

    , @Anonymous Nephew
    Bulgaria has some good folk and religious music.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh1MqLNWD3s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GN-KFgvLMM
    , @Lot

    As far as I can tell, the territory of Bulgaria has never for long been an imperial capital so the locals never got to exploit their neighbors and build themselves spectacular stuff.
     
    During the Byzantine era they were semi-reliable allies of the Greeks and controlled a fair amount of territory beyond modern Bulgaria. There was also a non-contiguous kingdom of Bulgarians in modern central Russia that was completely destroyed by the Mongolians.

    Basically the Bulgarians had a relationship with the Greeks where they'd either get paid off and help the Greeks fight their many enemies, or else they plunder the Byzantine countryside and possibly find a relative of the Emperor and install him in power over the non-cooperating Emperor. The tributes they demanded were reasonable, and they understood that they had to at least nominally acknowledge the superiority of the Byzantine emperor. Both groups were better off as allies, as the Greeks had more money, more advanced military tech and weaponry, and a solid navy, while the Bulgarian had numbers, physical size, and were braver in battle.

    Here's a map showing an area of Europe under the Bulgarian Empire several times larger than the modern nation:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Bulgarian_Empire#/media/File:Structure_of_the_First_Bulgarian_Empire_during_the_IX-X_century.png


    Here's the article about "the other Bulgaria" in modern Russia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Bulgaria
    , @Jefferson
    "Bulgaria is amazingly obscure."

    This is a good thing. That means Bulgaria is going to remain majority White a lot longer than a Germany and a France for example.

    , @Mr. Anon
    I've always been fascinated with Bulgaria precisely because it was a rather obscure place. I've always had a fascination with back of beyond places. And, as Anonymous Nephew pointed out, it has produced some really great folk music.
    , @Romanian
    Mr Sailer, I'm back from a trip to Asia. I have to tell you that, without meaning to, the Bulgarians have pulled off a coup in Asian countries. I entered a supermarket and browsed the shelves and, lo and behold, I found a host of dairy products called Bulgaria, made by the (Japanese I assume) Meiji corporation). And then it hit me. This was Thailand, but I'd seen the same brand in a number of Chinese cities and forgotten about it. The communist Bulgarians had become synonymous with good dairy products in communist China and they basically were adopted as a brand by a private company wishing to capitalize on that image. I was astounded and instantly envious :) . They're probably the most memetically known country in Central and Eastern Europe. The closest we Romanians ever got to such notoriety is by exporting Communist films to Red China (detective flicks, historical movies) which older people still associate with Romania (though not the younger, who have an abundance of media, including Chinese, to view nowadays).

    http://www.meiji.com/global/products/lineup/yogurt/images/asian_markets02.png
    http://www.soshiok.com/sites/default/files/public/styles/article_main_image/public/review/images/featured/20150525_yoghurt_STcopy.jpg?itok=DXn-U8Zd
    http://www.meiji.com/global/about-us/corporate-profile/meiji/business-categories/international/images/bulgaria_yogurt.jpg
  120. @candid_observer

    The body makes estrogen *from* testosterone.
     
    What could go wrong?

    There are a whole bunch of (rare) genetic disorders in girls where the body fails to make estrogen and gets testosterone or some useless precursor instead. It also screws up salt metabolism because those things are controlled by steroid hormones too.

  121. @Romanian
    Finally, notoriety at last! And I agree that Romanian can become an adequate racial marker, the way the media is using it t refer to European peoples of subcontinental descent (and I mean descent).

    You're going to laugh, but I was peeved as a youngster by the lack of mention (name-dropping) of my country in the popular media I was viewing. Hungary, Serbia etc have a lot higher profiles in the Western mind, possibly because they historically sent out more immigrants than Romania (which only in the post-communist era came into its own as a phenomenon). To the lower classes before globalization, especially peasants, immigrating shamed your family by breaking the bond with the land, diminishing the extended family's capacity for solidarity etc. There are even jokes about this, with a peasant wanting to go to America in the 1930, and going to the train station to get a ticket bound for a port city on the European Atlantic coast. The teller asks him where he's going so he can give him the ticket, and the peasant shouts "what the f*** is it to you?".

    So, it's the late 90s and I'm watching the terrific spy show La femme Nikita. Suddenly, Michael says something about an operative being attacked by "Romanian guerillas operating near Bucharest". My 13 year old self was elated. Later, the Hitman gaming franchise placed the insane asylum where the doctor performed the genetic experiments and cruel/brutal conditioning that created Agent 47 and his clone brothers in Romania (also a level in one of the games). Cue high fives from all of my gamer friends. If Call of Duty ever lets you shoot Romanian terrorists, we will have made it in the public consciousness.

    On a related note, are ethnic markers becoming appropriate replacements for Whites in the victim totem pole in order for goodwhites who can pull it off to differentiate themselves from badwhites? "No, man, he ain't White-White, he Hungarian. Those immigrants have it hard man. They just like us". Or so budding SJWs would like to think.

    Hey, don’t forget ‘Dragostea din Tei!’

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan

    Hey, don’t forget ‘Dragostea din Tei!’
     
    Not to mention Alexandra Stan and' Mr. Saxobeat', also from Romania.

    Your comment presents a rare opportunity to add some 21st century content to iSteve's complement of posted music videos...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4xc3dXDE5I


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS76eS34Y0c

    , @Romanian
    I had, happily, forgotten, after years of hearing Numa Numa everywhere abroad. Thanks for triggering me. I think I'll settle for dignified anonymity.

    Edit - I just remembered the Cheeky Girls. The horror...

  122. @yaqub the mad scientist
    I know a fellow who hung out with Faludi some and said that she's no feminazi- he found her pretty agreeable

    The poor lady got curious after ‘Backlash’ as to why the men were backlashing and performed the unfeminist step of *actually talking to the men*, resulting in (as Steve pointed out) ‘Stiffed’, which argued lower and middle class guys had been screwed by capitalism and deindustrialization. Wasn’t good for her career–you gotta keep throwing red meat to the misandrists.

  123. @Lot

    Since I was adopted, a few years later I concluded that it was likely that I was half-Jewish biologically, (which indeed appears to be the case based on evidence my wife dug up when I was 30).
     
    Welcome to the half-Ashkenazi Christian club my brother! Assuming your wife was correct. For $199 23andme will tell you for sure, providing an estimate down to the tenth of a percentage point.

    My bet however is the half-Jewish info is probably wrong. I'd guess the percentage of babies up for adoption who are Jewish is under 0.5%. They are less likely to get knocked up young, more likely to get an abortion the rare events that do happen, and likely to have "waited too long" Jewish relatives or spinster aunts who would raise an unwanted baby.

    outraged by her desire to attend a Christian summer camp with a friend
     
    I went to an evangelical christian summer bible day camp one month per summer for a few years.

    My best friend's mother talked my mother into making me attend. It was actually plenty of fun but I nonetheless objected on the grounds that I had to get up every morning in the summer at 7am.

    The best part was probably sneaking off and kissing girls (closed mouth only, we were 9, 10, 11, and 12) and the muddy tug-of-war.

    The least fun part was that we were given little fortune-cookie style slips of paper with a single bible verse every day and told to recite it the next morning.

    I also wonder if people are claiming to have Jewish ancestors (not on the alt-right of course) because it makes them sound more interesting. Kind of like the whole ‘I have an Indian great-grandfather’, except it’s an excuse for business savvy instead of wilderness skills.

    • Replies: @Lot

    I also wonder if people are claiming to have Jewish ancestors (not on the alt-right of course) because it makes them sound more interesting.
     
    Steve's suspicions were black curly hair and love of verbal combat. That isn't unreasonable. Steve does not look Ashkenazi at all to me, but really only half or so Ashkenazi look particularly Jewish, and the percentage is even low for halfies. Guessing from photos is a fool's errand, but if I had to I'd saw either English or eastern Alpine/Slavic (Pole, Slovak, Swiss German, Austrian). Also, Steve is tall and mesomorphic, while tall Jews tend to be ectomorphs (famous examples: Howard Stern, Jeff Goldblum). The only 6-4ish Jewish mesomorph who is famous I can think of is Bob Einstein.

    Probably the typical Ashkenazi trait that is strongest in mixed marriages is the curly hair, which I understand is a dominant trait. (Most physical appearance traits are complicated and polygenic, so I understand hair texture is not the simple 7th grade intro to genetics monogenic trait, just using it as a short-hand).

    Curly hair is the one Ashkenazi feature I have too, I am light featured and do not have a Jewish nose. But let my hair grow out more than 3 or 4 inches and the result is a light brown JewFro with blond streaks from the sun. Last time I did this was five years ago and it was a hoot.

  124. “I also wonder if people are claiming to have Jewish ancestors (not on the alt-right of course) because it makes them sound more interesting. Kind of like the whole ‘I have an Indian great-grandfather’, except it’s an excuse for business savvy instead of wilderness skills.”

    Hidden Jewish ancestry is common in Southern Europeans and Latin Americans.

  125. @SFG
    Hey, don't forget 'Dragostea din Tei!'

    Hey, don’t forget ‘Dragostea din Tei!’

    Not to mention Alexandra Stan and’ Mr. Saxobeat’, also from Romania.

    Your comment presents a rare opportunity to add some 21st century content to iSteve’s complement of posted music videos…

  126. MQ says:

    The NY Times review quotes Faludi’s father as saying “Women get away with murder!”. I suspect that transsexuality is often about a combination of autogynephilia with an explicit envy of forms of ‘female privilege’ — I think that there’s a certain kind of hyper-macho guy who puts tremendous pressure on themselves to be aggressive, domineering, an asshole basically, and envies women because they don’t he believes they don’t have the internal pressure to be the Big Man all the time. Of course, these types tend to still be overbearing assholes even when they dress up as / pretend to be women. No doubt that quality has served them well in shoving trans ideology down everybody’s throats.

  127. @Steve Sailer
    "Romania -- at least we're more famous than Bulgaria!"

    Bulgaria is amazingly obscure. When my son got a chance to go to Bulgaria for $400 I told him all about this 1990 World Cup game in Chicago I went to in Chicago where Bulgaria defeated Greece 4-0. He thought that sounded like a ridiculous thing to bring up in conversation with Bulgarians, but then it turned out that Bulgarians appreciated his anecdote about one of the highlights of their history.

    My impression is that what makes a place a tourist attraction and famous is having at some point been top dog over your neighborhood and thus being able to tax your neighbors and thus afford to build a lot of future ruins. As far as I can tell, the territory of Bulgaria has never for long been an imperial capital so the locals never got to exploit their neighbors and build themselves spectacular stuff.

    In contrast, when you're walking around Hagia Sophia and the Blue Mosque in Istanbul, you have to imagine the locals taxed a lot of Bulgarian peasants over the years to be able to afford stuff like this.

    He thought that sounded like a ridiculous thing to bring up in conversation with Bulgarians, but then it turned out that Bulgarians appreciated his anecdote about one of the highlights of their history.

    That’s hilarious, but they are undermining themselves. Bulgaria has a very interesting culture with regards to a number of hot topics, such as gender equality and multiculturalism. Their role in WWII is also fascinating and ought to be more known. Did your son enjoy his time there? Sofia is a really pleasant city despite its poverty, and Bulgarians have a surprisingly warm, open, and level-headed character considering their history and Balkan geography.

  128. I am sure most people are aware of the concept that if you have a dog and a cat, which would you rather be the size of a tiger.

    The same applies to humans. Considering the nature of men and women which sex would you rather be the more physically powerful one? It should be no surprise that impulsive violent men have more female brains and a tendency towards transgenderism.

  129. @SFG
    Hey, don't forget 'Dragostea din Tei!'

    I had, happily, forgotten, after years of hearing Numa Numa everywhere abroad. Thanks for triggering me. I think I’ll settle for dignified anonymity.

    Edit – I just remembered the Cheeky Girls. The horror…

  130. @Ron Unz
    It really seems that in recent years a remarkable fraction of our most influential public intellectuals have come from families with seemingly hereditary mental illness...

    Maybe that explains some of the odder aspects of our current society...

    Rather than characterizing it as an “odder aspect of our current society” might it be a little more to the point to say it is a predictable outcome of a society that is in decline? The USA’s only moral imperative anymore seems to be the epicurean ‘pursuit of pleasure/avoidance of pain’ mantra. Moral people realize that suffering is a normal and healthy part of life too. Without it how could parenting take place?

    Americans don’t like leaders who are mentally ill. We’re just too caught up in epicurean pursuits to take real any real corrective action. So we allow the crazies to bubble up through the cracks and go right to the top.

  131. @Moshe
    I must have speechified on the train a dozen times. It's fun. Heck, last year I was in nyc and got my half of the train to, very literally sing Stand By Me. I've also given bullshit speeches, motivational speeches (some Mexican lady was so moved she teared up and gave me $5 and wouldn't take it back), and once, back in the day, the spirit of the Lord came over me and I suddenly stood up, pointed to my long time friend Avi and shouted "Terrorist!". Hey, see something, say something.

    There's no reason the commute should be dull. You only live once, my friend :)

    You may have single-handedly inspired the invention of the silent car.

  132. @Jefferson
    "OT, sorta — I have had family members share this story with me concerning a moment of unity in diversity on the NY subway, and they have expressed skepticism. Frankly, I find it hard to believe, and I also find it hard to believe that there would be strategically placed gay, black, asian and (of course) ROMANIAN passengers to take umbrage with the alleged Trump supporter.

    But make up your own minds:"

    Are Romanians now considered allies of The KKKrazy Glue's war on Whites?

    Also that incident could be turned into an ABC After School Special film on fighting Islamophobia. John Goodman plays the Trump supporter and Michael B. Jordan plays the Black guy on the NYC subway train who stands up to him.

    I like your ideas, but I think it would be even better if all of the people on the subway stood up and said, “I am Spartacus!”

  133. @Steve Sailer
    "Romania -- at least we're more famous than Bulgaria!"

    Bulgaria is amazingly obscure. When my son got a chance to go to Bulgaria for $400 I told him all about this 1990 World Cup game in Chicago I went to in Chicago where Bulgaria defeated Greece 4-0. He thought that sounded like a ridiculous thing to bring up in conversation with Bulgarians, but then it turned out that Bulgarians appreciated his anecdote about one of the highlights of their history.

    My impression is that what makes a place a tourist attraction and famous is having at some point been top dog over your neighborhood and thus being able to tax your neighbors and thus afford to build a lot of future ruins. As far as I can tell, the territory of Bulgaria has never for long been an imperial capital so the locals never got to exploit their neighbors and build themselves spectacular stuff.

    In contrast, when you're walking around Hagia Sophia and the Blue Mosque in Istanbul, you have to imagine the locals taxed a lot of Bulgarian peasants over the years to be able to afford stuff like this.

    Bulgaria has some good folk and religious music.

  134. @Romanian
    Finally, notoriety at last! And I agree that Romanian can become an adequate racial marker, the way the media is using it t refer to European peoples of subcontinental descent (and I mean descent).

    You're going to laugh, but I was peeved as a youngster by the lack of mention (name-dropping) of my country in the popular media I was viewing. Hungary, Serbia etc have a lot higher profiles in the Western mind, possibly because they historically sent out more immigrants than Romania (which only in the post-communist era came into its own as a phenomenon). To the lower classes before globalization, especially peasants, immigrating shamed your family by breaking the bond with the land, diminishing the extended family's capacity for solidarity etc. There are even jokes about this, with a peasant wanting to go to America in the 1930, and going to the train station to get a ticket bound for a port city on the European Atlantic coast. The teller asks him where he's going so he can give him the ticket, and the peasant shouts "what the f*** is it to you?".

    So, it's the late 90s and I'm watching the terrific spy show La femme Nikita. Suddenly, Michael says something about an operative being attacked by "Romanian guerillas operating near Bucharest". My 13 year old self was elated. Later, the Hitman gaming franchise placed the insane asylum where the doctor performed the genetic experiments and cruel/brutal conditioning that created Agent 47 and his clone brothers in Romania (also a level in one of the games). Cue high fives from all of my gamer friends. If Call of Duty ever lets you shoot Romanian terrorists, we will have made it in the public consciousness.

    On a related note, are ethnic markers becoming appropriate replacements for Whites in the victim totem pole in order for goodwhites who can pull it off to differentiate themselves from badwhites? "No, man, he ain't White-White, he Hungarian. Those immigrants have it hard man. They just like us". Or so budding SJWs would like to think.

    Vlad the Impaler and Bran Castle. Is that notorious enough for you?

    • Replies: @Romanian
    But we're so much more than that :) also, aside from the last movie with the guy from the Hobbit, it appears to me that the Dracula craze has entered a period of dormancy. Not vampires, mind you, in all their glittery glory, just Dracula. Fun fact - in the late 90s, we were considering producing under license a local variant of the Apache attack helicopter, I think, which would have been called the Dracula.
  135. @Earl of Monahan
    Is this for real? The earliest appearance of this quote I can find is here - https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/evolutionary-psychology/conversations/topics/2725

    which seems questionable. Except that apparently Razib re-posted it here - http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/000770.html

    As a proud (((Eskimo))) and avid reader of Sailer, it would be great to claim him as a landsman , but I'm skeptical. Since when is Steve a huge fan of Milton Friedman or of neo-cons? Views change over time, but the quote never addresses that. Seems fishy to me.

    I. P. is an evolutionary psychologist who was was one of the very earliest members on the Human Biodiversity Institute mailing list by Steve Sailer.

    (I am not posting I.P.’s full name. You can see it if you click the link.)

    The HBI mailing list began on or around Thursday, March 4, 1999. (That is when the earliest members all joined, according to a roster Steve posted on his old AOL site.)

    I. P. joined the list on Sunday, March 14, 1999.

    Steve posted his piece about his pro-Semitic views to his mailing list(?) on Friday, June 4, 1999.

    I.P. posted his Steve-bashing comments to the evolutionary-psychology listserv on Tuesday, February 1, 2000.

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/evolutionary-psychology/conversations/topics/2725

    From: “I. P.”

    Another strange piece from Steve Sailer containing all the usual fallacies…

    In 2003, I.P. wrote in an e-mail:

    please note that I am not connected with Steve Salier or his “Human Biodiversity Institute” and that I have not written about or expressed any public opinion at all about transsexualism. I did belong to Sailer’s list for a while, but left after he continually blocked my postings, presumably because he didn’t approve of the content.

  136. Am I the only one who thinks Faludi Sr. should have been doing hard time in prison for attempted murder?

    He could have practiced his feminine wiles on the guards and other prisoners though I imagine his opportunities for glamming it up would have been limited.

    (Yes, pun intended.)

  137. The terminology used in the article is a bit dated. What was once frankly called ‘sex change’ surgery appears still to be known as ‘gender reassignment’ surgery across the pond.

    Here in more-enlightened America we now call it gender confirmation surgery.

    I suppose I’m the last Anglophone in the world who thinks of ‘gender’ as a term of grammar, and ‘sex’ as what is now known as gender.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    I am with you. Gender is a language term.
  138. One of the more appreciated gifts I ever gave was some rose essential from Bulgaria.

    Highly recommended, and for your consideration.

    http://bulgarianroseotto.com/

  139. @helena
    That's brilliant; 1999? (I'm surprised Sailer is as much as 50% jewish.) I mentioned this process a while ago because it seems strange that neither HBD nor KM have really looked at the incredible mating strategy that accompanies Jewish cultural and political prominence. Genes are imported into the tribe (often deliberately from high class/IQ sector - great genetic strategy) and importantly a lot of genes are exported outwards creating a more pro-Jewish social environment. [I had thought only in the sense of loyalty, as in support for immigration from those with a jewish grandparent etc. but what steve is talking about, genes directing cultural behaviours, is fascinating. ]

    That’s brilliant; 1999? (I’m surprised Sailer is as much as 50% jewish.) I mentioned this process a while ago because it seems strange that neither HBD nor KM have really looked at the incredible mating strategy that accompanies Jewish cultural and political prominence. Genes are imported into the tribe (often deliberately from high class/IQ sector – great genetic strategy) and importantly a lot of genes are exported outwards creating a more pro-Jewish social environment. [I had thought only in the sense of loyalty, as in support for immigration from those with a jewish grandparent etc. but what steve is talking about, genes directing cultural behaviours, is fascinating. ]

    Be interesting to study the inverse. My Ashkenazi mother has a reverential attitude towards all things Anglo-Saxon (for example, she grew up worshiping Robert E Lee). And, from a very early age, she was determined to marry a WASP, preferentially one with deep ancestral ties to the USA. That way, she felt, her children would be Anglo-American by blood, and not merely by choice.

    As near as I can tell, her reasoning seems to be quite sound. I’m half-Ashkenazi , half English-Scottish, and my sense of personal identity is entirely Anglo.

    • Replies: @Lot

    And, from a very early age, she was determined to marry a WASP, preferentially one with deep ancestral ties to the USA.
     
    I'd be interested if you could expand on this a bit. Do you know when she decided this and why? My parents married young (born in the mid-50's married in the mid 70's) and were both the smartest kids in their high school classes (a year apart.)

    There was not much choice, it was a middle class town less than 2% Jewish, and likely the vast majority of the Jews in such towns marry out. My oldest Jewish ancestor entered the USA in the 1850's and fought in the Civil War, and all of them were here by the 1900 census, so I am kind of surprised they avoided intermarriage so long. Though the brother of the 1850's immigrant and his wife, also a Prussian/Polish Jew, had a huge family, I think more than 10 children surviving to adulthood, and moved in the rural interior west, where I assume they were entirely merged into the local population.

  140. Lot says:
    @SFG
    I also wonder if people are claiming to have Jewish ancestors (not on the alt-right of course) because it makes them sound more interesting. Kind of like the whole 'I have an Indian great-grandfather', except it's an excuse for business savvy instead of wilderness skills.

    I also wonder if people are claiming to have Jewish ancestors (not on the alt-right of course) because it makes them sound more interesting.

    Steve’s suspicions were black curly hair and love of verbal combat. That isn’t unreasonable. Steve does not look Ashkenazi at all to me, but really only half or so Ashkenazi look particularly Jewish, and the percentage is even low for halfies. Guessing from photos is a fool’s errand, but if I had to I’d saw either English or eastern Alpine/Slavic (Pole, Slovak, Swiss German, Austrian). Also, Steve is tall and mesomorphic, while tall Jews tend to be ectomorphs (famous examples: Howard Stern, Jeff Goldblum). The only 6-4ish Jewish mesomorph who is famous I can think of is Bob Einstein.

    Probably the typical Ashkenazi trait that is strongest in mixed marriages is the curly hair, which I understand is a dominant trait. (Most physical appearance traits are complicated and polygenic, so I understand hair texture is not the simple 7th grade intro to genetics monogenic trait, just using it as a short-hand).

    Curly hair is the one Ashkenazi feature I have too, I am light featured and do not have a Jewish nose. But let my hair grow out more than 3 or 4 inches and the result is a light brown JewFro with blond streaks from the sun. Last time I did this was five years ago and it was a hoot.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Curly hair is the one Ashkenazi feature I have too, I am light featured and do not have a Jewish nose."

    I have the Jewish nose, even though I am not Jewish. I am more likely to find my doppelganger in Israel or Lebanon than in Sweden or Finland.

  141. Lot says:
    @syonredux

    That’s brilliant; 1999? (I’m surprised Sailer is as much as 50% jewish.) I mentioned this process a while ago because it seems strange that neither HBD nor KM have really looked at the incredible mating strategy that accompanies Jewish cultural and political prominence. Genes are imported into the tribe (often deliberately from high class/IQ sector – great genetic strategy) and importantly a lot of genes are exported outwards creating a more pro-Jewish social environment. [I had thought only in the sense of loyalty, as in support for immigration from those with a jewish grandparent etc. but what steve is talking about, genes directing cultural behaviours, is fascinating. ]
     
    Be interesting to study the inverse. My Ashkenazi mother has a reverential attitude towards all things Anglo-Saxon (for example, she grew up worshiping Robert E Lee). And, from a very early age, she was determined to marry a WASP, preferentially one with deep ancestral ties to the USA. That way, she felt, her children would be Anglo-American by blood, and not merely by choice.

    As near as I can tell, her reasoning seems to be quite sound. I'm half-Ashkenazi , half English-Scottish, and my sense of personal identity is entirely Anglo.

    And, from a very early age, she was determined to marry a WASP, preferentially one with deep ancestral ties to the USA.

    I’d be interested if you could expand on this a bit. Do you know when she decided this and why? My parents married young (born in the mid-50’s married in the mid 70’s) and were both the smartest kids in their high school classes (a year apart.)

    There was not much choice, it was a middle class town less than 2% Jewish, and likely the vast majority of the Jews in such towns marry out. My oldest Jewish ancestor entered the USA in the 1850’s and fought in the Civil War, and all of them were here by the 1900 census, so I am kind of surprised they avoided intermarriage so long. Though the brother of the 1850’s immigrant and his wife, also a Prussian/Polish Jew, had a huge family, I think more than 10 children surviving to adulthood, and moved in the rural interior west, where I assume they were entirely merged into the local population.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    And, from a very early age, she was determined to marry a WASP, preferentially one with deep ancestral ties to the USA.

    I’d be interested if you could expand on this a bit. Do you know when she decided this and why? My parents married young (born in the mid-50′s married in the mid 70′s) and were both the smartest kids in their high school classes (a year apart.)
     
    From very early childhood. Her father (an Ashkenazi from Latvia) was an ardent Anglophile (his favorite childhood reading was Sherlock Holmes in German translation).And he felt nothing but contempt for the traditional culture of Judaism. He inculcated those attitudes in his daughter, who was raised in a purely Anglo cultural environment: Nancy Drew, Little Women, Johnny Tremain, the Alice books, Edith Nesbit, Edward Eager, etc.

    She repeatedly told me when I was growing up that her husbandly ideal had always been (for as far back as she could remember) an Anglo-Saxon of professorial mien. And that he absolutely had to have blue eyes.
    , @Triumph104
    In the documentary Knocking a Jehovah's Witness woman said that she used to babysit for Jews and thought Jewish men were great husbands so she wanted to marry a Jew. Her husband had been in concentration camps as a teen and saw how devoted Jehovah's Witnesses were to their faith. Unlike other groups, JWs were allowed to leave the camps if they would sign a paper disavowing the religion, most refused. Their sons had zero interest in Judaism.

    Poor quality video but better than nothing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cFymIDxy18


    Stephen Dubner is co-author of Freakonomics. His parents met and married after they had both converted to Catholicism from Judaism. Stephen later returned to Judaism. He writes about the family in Turbulent Souls which has been republished as Choosing My Religion.

    The guy is this video was raised Catholic along with his 10 siblings although their mother was born Jewish. He became an Hasidic Jew.

    https://youtu.be/SMoFQhOG_Ok?t=1614
  142. @Njguy73
    Your 2025 Cooperstown inductees:

    Barbara Bonds
    Regina Clemens
    Alexis Rodriguez
    Melissa McGwire
    Selena Sosa

    IIRC, Rodriguez’s Yankees teammates nicknamed him “A-Cup” for the effect steroid use had upon his upper body.

  143. But she learns that she’ll be rewarded if she generalizes and intellectualizes her resentment toward a Jewish relative into blaming her animus on Society or Men or Stereotypes or anti-Semites or whatever it is that gentiles can be badgered into feeling guilty about.

    The Holocaust and thousands of years of persecution are all minor league complaints compared to serious grievances like the purging of Mel Bradford and Joe Sobran.

    Tell us more.

  144. @Kylie
    Vlad the Impaler and Bran Castle. Is that notorious enough for you?

    But we’re so much more than that 🙂 also, aside from the last movie with the guy from the Hobbit, it appears to me that the Dracula craze has entered a period of dormancy. Not vampires, mind you, in all their glittery glory, just Dracula. Fun fact – in the late 90s, we were considering producing under license a local variant of the Apache attack helicopter, I think, which would have been called the Dracula.

  145. I thought Sailer wrote years ago (on his old blogspot site?) that his tests came out negative for Jewish markers?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    No, I've never taken a DNA test. As an adoptee who is a full-time professional writer, it would seem like a natural topic for a book proposal or a long magazine article. But I've never gotten around to taking a test. And the thought that I ought to do something serious and potentially profitable with the topic getting a DNA test has discouraged me from using up what material I already have by blogging for free about it.

    But someday, I hope, I'll get the test and write the book, along with my idea for a book about how the St. Andrews golf course inspired the theory of evolution. But a Surfeit of Events keep providing me with plenty of material to write about 350-360 days per year as it is. A Trump presidency would probably wear my typing fingers to the bone.

    , @The Undiscovered Jew
    I must have misread an old post then.
  146. @Lot

    And when are we going to stop letting these Castration Cowards off the hook?
     
    YES!

    I don't care much if society decides to let men who chop off their wang and grow breasts with hormones officially become women. The percentage of men who want to do this seems to be out 1 in 500 to 1000, and we ought to show some compassion toward their plight.

    But transvestites who just get kinkier with age? Nope, you do not get to be "women" unless you chop it off.

    You’re suggesting that there aren’t already sufficient sentient beings who could actually benefit from my compassion. I’ll keep mine there, thanks.

    I have only so many positive resources. Wages is one. Patience another.

    That famous white-people empathy and altruism is yet another. Last thing I need is the Gubmint playing Forced Compassion Redistribution Robin Hood for mentally ill fringe-dwellers, who proliferate not only in category and numbers but the esoterica of their “plights.”

    • Replies: @Lot
    I'm not talking about taking in a trannie runaway. But if you actually encounter one in person, making a point of being nice about pronouns is no big deal to you, but could mean a lot to someone who was dealt a sad set of cards in life. I am not talking about the old guys like Jenner and Faludi pere, but the people who want to change gender from childhood on, who generally have really bad lives through no fault of their own.
  147. I mentioned this process a while ago because it seems strange that neither HBD nor KM have really looked at the incredible mating strategy that accompanies Jewish cultural and political prominence.

    Macdonald doesn’t like mentioning the +70% intermarriage rate of secular Jews because it contradicts his entire thesis Jews are acting with cryptic ethnic interests in mind. It’s so contradictory to his viewpoint that one of his writers at Occidental Observer tried, and of course failed, to debunk the intermarriage rate statistics as being lower than portrayed by every survey on the topic.

    But then again, his arguments and facts rarely fit together.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Regarding the intermarriage issue, I've wondered if one of the reason of high Ashkenazi IQ is selective intermarriage with high IQ gentiles along side the more established methods of eugenic fertility rates and the discarding of low IQ Jews into the surrounding population.

    If Ashkenazi men value looks and IQ equally, but gentiles weight looks higher than IQ, you will end up with the Jews scooping up the homely high IQ gentile girls and often getting them to convert.
    , @Mr. Anon
    "Macdonald doesn’t like mentioning the +70% intermarriage rate of secular Jews because it contradicts his entire thesis Jews are acting with cryptic ethnic interests in mind."

    Who says that outbreeding has nothing to do with ethnic interests? The hordes of Gengis Khan interbred extensively as they conquered and raped their way across asia. Was Gengis Khan ever accused of not pursuing his ethnic interests.

    In any event, the remaining 30% of secular Jews who intermarry are, quite probably, consciously pursuing their perceived ethnic interests. 30% is a pretty big chunk.

    Of course, the lack of ethnic self-interest among Jews is legendary. That's why there's a popular website called JDate. Tell me, is there a WDate - for white gentiles?

    "But then again, his arguments and facts rarely fit together."

    You just don't like his facts. Probably for highly ethnically interested reasons.

  148. @The Undiscovered Jew
    I thought Sailer wrote years ago (on his old blogspot site?) that his tests came out negative for Jewish markers?

    No, I’ve never taken a DNA test. As an adoptee who is a full-time professional writer, it would seem like a natural topic for a book proposal or a long magazine article. But I’ve never gotten around to taking a test. And the thought that I ought to do something serious and potentially profitable with the topic getting a DNA test has discouraged me from using up what material I already have by blogging for free about it.

    But someday, I hope, I’ll get the test and write the book, along with my idea for a book about how the St. Andrews golf course inspired the theory of evolution. But a Surfeit of Events keep providing me with plenty of material to write about 350-360 days per year as it is. A Trump presidency would probably wear my typing fingers to the bone.

    • Replies: @MC
    Had no idea you were adopted. I have a feeling that, with abortion and increasing acceptance of single motherhood, high IQ American adoptees like you are a vanishing breed.
    , @Lot
    23andme is considered the best of the low-cost DNA tests. at least that is what my research a few years ago showed. I was really happy with the results, they provide a lot of fun results. You should check out someone's account if you know anyone who has done it.

    If you are half (or more) Ashkenazi, you will get a lot of false positive 2nd and 3rd cousin false positives. We are all the equivalent of 4th cousins, so some people not actually in your family will randomly be listed as "probably" 2nd and 3rd cousins. I know every single one of my second cousins, and everyone 23andme found were false positives.

    Though I am as much north european as ashkenazi, this effect plus the higher rate of Jews who use the service means that about 95% of the people flagged as "potential relatives" are Jews, all over the USA, Israel, Canada, the UK and Eastern Europe.

    Lots of fun info too about traits from "predicted eye color" to whether you have the "cilantro tastes bad" gene. Then they provide you with the raw results, which you can download into a standard file type and run with other services. They also let you do "gene lookups" when you see things about genes in the news. I was able to check, for example, if I had the newly discovery high IQ genes from a recent paper. Though they do not do a full sequencing, they target the "interesting" parts of the chromosome, so it is almost as good as a full sequence at much lower cost.

    I don't know if your wife has been tested for the BRAC breast cancer gene, but getting 23andme, which includes this along with millions of other base pairs, is actually cheaper than just getting the BRAC test at a hospital.
    , @Jefferson
    Steve how would you react if you found out you have Ashkenazi DNA?
  149. @The Undiscovered Jew
    I thought Sailer wrote years ago (on his old blogspot site?) that his tests came out negative for Jewish markers?

    I must have misread an old post then.

  150. @Lot

    And, from a very early age, she was determined to marry a WASP, preferentially one with deep ancestral ties to the USA.
     
    I'd be interested if you could expand on this a bit. Do you know when she decided this and why? My parents married young (born in the mid-50's married in the mid 70's) and were both the smartest kids in their high school classes (a year apart.)

    There was not much choice, it was a middle class town less than 2% Jewish, and likely the vast majority of the Jews in such towns marry out. My oldest Jewish ancestor entered the USA in the 1850's and fought in the Civil War, and all of them were here by the 1900 census, so I am kind of surprised they avoided intermarriage so long. Though the brother of the 1850's immigrant and his wife, also a Prussian/Polish Jew, had a huge family, I think more than 10 children surviving to adulthood, and moved in the rural interior west, where I assume they were entirely merged into the local population.

    And, from a very early age, she was determined to marry a WASP, preferentially one with deep ancestral ties to the USA.

    I’d be interested if you could expand on this a bit. Do you know when she decided this and why? My parents married young (born in the mid-50′s married in the mid 70′s) and were both the smartest kids in their high school classes (a year apart.)

    From very early childhood. Her father (an Ashkenazi from Latvia) was an ardent Anglophile (his favorite childhood reading was Sherlock Holmes in German translation).And he felt nothing but contempt for the traditional culture of Judaism. He inculcated those attitudes in his daughter, who was raised in a purely Anglo cultural environment: Nancy Drew, Little Women, Johnny Tremain, the Alice books, Edith Nesbit, Edward Eager, etc.

    She repeatedly told me when I was growing up that her husbandly ideal had always been (for as far back as she could remember) an Anglo-Saxon of professorial mien. And that he absolutely had to have blue eyes.

    • Replies: @SFG
    My mom was never that extreme, but she was a huge Francophile. Tried to send me to French class, but it interfered with my Saturday morning cartoons and I opposed it. I think my crowning achievement was sneaking the Marquis de Sade into a sentence...

    Now I was 13 years old and this was very early 1990s, *before* the Internet. You knew weird stuff, you had to read it in a book somewhere or someone told you. (I had an encyclopedia. Was fun to pull it open to a random entry. I went looking for sadness and...) The teacher was really, really, horrified, because *she* knew who he was, but none of the other kids did...but now they did, and they were going to ask their parents.

    She wasn't totally unsuccessful. I can see the *appeal* of having 100 varieties of cheese and appreciating 1000 varieties of wine, of philosophical dinner conversation as a pastime, and of movies with complex conversation instead of explosions. I have a huge regard for the French and their culture, it's just not my bag.

  151. @unpc downunder
    Although the autogynephilia argument is probably dismissed too lightly, the gender identity explaination for gender dysmorphia in relatively masculine men also isn't explained very well either. The argument is that male to female crossdressers and transsexuals have a subconscious female sex identity which is caused by a shortage of testosterone at some stage in the womb. However, in terms of gender expression they have normal, masculine male brains which don't look like those of women or feminine homosexuals (who receive too much estrogen in the womb). Hence they exhibit normal male gender expression as boys, but then start to feel like female porn stars as soon as they hit puberty and experience a surge in testosterone. The resurgence of these feelings in middle age has yet to be explained but probably has something to do with the neurotransmitter dopamine, which tends to fall quicker than testosterone (we experience a number dopamine crashes over the lifetime starting in late childhood, when we suddenly stop getting excited about opening Christmas presents).

    This argument does have some support from biological research which suggests than animals have an internal map of what sex they are and how they are supposed to act and feel in sex related situations. For example, birds don't find out they are male or female by looking at their birdy privates (which they can't see) they just know instinctively that they are male or female, and that they are supposed to conduct a range of behaviours appropriate to their genetic sex.

    If gynephilic trannies do have insufficiently masculined brains in the sex department (but are otherwise relatively masculine) then the last thing they need to do is to hit the weights and take steroids or take uppers like cocaine. This is only likely to make them feel like uptight, anxious, aggressive, etc. They should be calming their brains rather than hyping them up.

    We need secular monastic orders. Places where older men with declining testosterone can contribute to the world without the pressure to be high-achieving.

    Stupid idea? I’m talking crazy?

    Then give me a better idea, ’cause the ones we got now ain’t workin’.

  152. @Steve Sailer
    No, I've never taken a DNA test. As an adoptee who is a full-time professional writer, it would seem like a natural topic for a book proposal or a long magazine article. But I've never gotten around to taking a test. And the thought that I ought to do something serious and potentially profitable with the topic getting a DNA test has discouraged me from using up what material I already have by blogging for free about it.

    But someday, I hope, I'll get the test and write the book, along with my idea for a book about how the St. Andrews golf course inspired the theory of evolution. But a Surfeit of Events keep providing me with plenty of material to write about 350-360 days per year as it is. A Trump presidency would probably wear my typing fingers to the bone.

    Had no idea you were adopted. I have a feeling that, with abortion and increasing acceptance of single motherhood, high IQ American adoptees like you are a vanishing breed.

  153. @I, Libertine
    The terminology used in the article is a bit dated. What was once frankly called 'sex change' surgery appears still to be known as 'gender reassignment' surgery across the pond.

    Here in more-enlightened America we now call it gender confirmation surgery.

    I suppose I'm the last Anglophone in the world who thinks of 'gender' as a term of grammar, and 'sex' as what is now known as gender.

    I am with you. Gender is a language term.

    • Replies: @SFG
    I tend to agree with Derbyshire that we need different words for the fact and the act of sex at this point--it may be a sign of a degenerate society, but there you go.
  154. @Paleo
    Really, Steve? You thought that someone with Susan Faludi's views was an Italian Catholic because her name ends in a vowel? I thought you were much sharper than that. You must not know many Italian Catholics.

    I’ve met Italian-American Catholic women who are quite left wing. Think of Nancy Pelosi.

  155. @Jim Don Bob
    I am with you. Gender is a language term.

    I tend to agree with Derbyshire that we need different words for the fact and the act of sex at this point–it may be a sign of a degenerate society, but there you go.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "I tend to agree with Derbyshire that we need different words for the fact and the act of sex at this point–it may be a sign of a degenerate society, but there you go."

    Whenever I am given a form to fill-in with a "gender" category, I cross out "gender" and write "sex". If other people can insist that their own peculiar "gender identity" be respected, then I can goddamned well insist that my choice of word for it be respected. Especially so as "sex" is the traditional and accurate actual biological category.

    We need to defend our language.
  156. SFG says:
    @syonredux

    And, from a very early age, she was determined to marry a WASP, preferentially one with deep ancestral ties to the USA.

    I’d be interested if you could expand on this a bit. Do you know when she decided this and why? My parents married young (born in the mid-50′s married in the mid 70′s) and were both the smartest kids in their high school classes (a year apart.)
     
    From very early childhood. Her father (an Ashkenazi from Latvia) was an ardent Anglophile (his favorite childhood reading was Sherlock Holmes in German translation).And he felt nothing but contempt for the traditional culture of Judaism. He inculcated those attitudes in his daughter, who was raised in a purely Anglo cultural environment: Nancy Drew, Little Women, Johnny Tremain, the Alice books, Edith Nesbit, Edward Eager, etc.

    She repeatedly told me when I was growing up that her husbandly ideal had always been (for as far back as she could remember) an Anglo-Saxon of professorial mien. And that he absolutely had to have blue eyes.

    My mom was never that extreme, but she was a huge Francophile. Tried to send me to French class, but it interfered with my Saturday morning cartoons and I opposed it. I think my crowning achievement was sneaking the Marquis de Sade into a sentence…

    Now I was 13 years old and this was very early 1990s, *before* the Internet. You knew weird stuff, you had to read it in a book somewhere or someone told you. (I had an encyclopedia. Was fun to pull it open to a random entry. I went looking for sadness and…) The teacher was really, really, horrified, because *she* knew who he was, but none of the other kids did…but now they did, and they were going to ask their parents.

    She wasn’t totally unsuccessful. I can see the *appeal* of having 100 varieties of cheese and appreciating 1000 varieties of wine, of philosophical dinner conversation as a pastime, and of movies with complex conversation instead of explosions. I have a huge regard for the French and their culture, it’s just not my bag.

  157. Lot says:
    @Steve Sailer
    No, I've never taken a DNA test. As an adoptee who is a full-time professional writer, it would seem like a natural topic for a book proposal or a long magazine article. But I've never gotten around to taking a test. And the thought that I ought to do something serious and potentially profitable with the topic getting a DNA test has discouraged me from using up what material I already have by blogging for free about it.

    But someday, I hope, I'll get the test and write the book, along with my idea for a book about how the St. Andrews golf course inspired the theory of evolution. But a Surfeit of Events keep providing me with plenty of material to write about 350-360 days per year as it is. A Trump presidency would probably wear my typing fingers to the bone.

    23andme is considered the best of the low-cost DNA tests. at least that is what my research a few years ago showed. I was really happy with the results, they provide a lot of fun results. You should check out someone’s account if you know anyone who has done it.

    If you are half (or more) Ashkenazi, you will get a lot of false positive 2nd and 3rd cousin false positives. We are all the equivalent of 4th cousins, so some people not actually in your family will randomly be listed as “probably” 2nd and 3rd cousins. I know every single one of my second cousins, and everyone 23andme found were false positives.

    Though I am as much north european as ashkenazi, this effect plus the higher rate of Jews who use the service means that about 95% of the people flagged as “potential relatives” are Jews, all over the USA, Israel, Canada, the UK and Eastern Europe.

    Lots of fun info too about traits from “predicted eye color” to whether you have the “cilantro tastes bad” gene. Then they provide you with the raw results, which you can download into a standard file type and run with other services. They also let you do “gene lookups” when you see things about genes in the news. I was able to check, for example, if I had the newly discovery high IQ genes from a recent paper. Though they do not do a full sequencing, they target the “interesting” parts of the chromosome, so it is almost as good as a full sequence at much lower cost.

    I don’t know if your wife has been tested for the BRAC breast cancer gene, but getting 23andme, which includes this along with millions of other base pairs, is actually cheaper than just getting the BRAC test at a hospital.

  158. Lot says:
    @Olorin
    You're suggesting that there aren't already sufficient sentient beings who could actually benefit from my compassion. I'll keep mine there, thanks.

    I have only so many positive resources. Wages is one. Patience another.

    That famous white-people empathy and altruism is yet another. Last thing I need is the Gubmint playing Forced Compassion Redistribution Robin Hood for mentally ill fringe-dwellers, who proliferate not only in category and numbers but the esoterica of their "plights."

    I’m not talking about taking in a trannie runaway. But if you actually encounter one in person, making a point of being nice about pronouns is no big deal to you, but could mean a lot to someone who was dealt a sad set of cards in life. I am not talking about the old guys like Jenner and Faludi pere, but the people who want to change gender from childhood on, who generally have really bad lives through no fault of their own.

  159. Lot says:
    @The Undiscovered Jew
    I mentioned this process a while ago because it seems strange that neither HBD nor KM have really looked at the incredible mating strategy that accompanies Jewish cultural and political prominence.

    Macdonald doesn't like mentioning the +70% intermarriage rate of secular Jews because it contradicts his entire thesis Jews are acting with cryptic ethnic interests in mind. It's so contradictory to his viewpoint that one of his writers at Occidental Observer tried, and of course failed, to debunk the intermarriage rate statistics as being lower than portrayed by every survey on the topic.

    But then again, his arguments and facts rarely fit together.

    Regarding the intermarriage issue, I’ve wondered if one of the reason of high Ashkenazi IQ is selective intermarriage with high IQ gentiles along side the more established methods of eugenic fertility rates and the discarding of low IQ Jews into the surrounding population.

    If Ashkenazi men value looks and IQ equally, but gentiles weight looks higher than IQ, you will end up with the Jews scooping up the homely high IQ gentile girls and often getting them to convert.

  160. Lot says:
    @Steve Sailer
    "Romania -- at least we're more famous than Bulgaria!"

    Bulgaria is amazingly obscure. When my son got a chance to go to Bulgaria for $400 I told him all about this 1990 World Cup game in Chicago I went to in Chicago where Bulgaria defeated Greece 4-0. He thought that sounded like a ridiculous thing to bring up in conversation with Bulgarians, but then it turned out that Bulgarians appreciated his anecdote about one of the highlights of their history.

    My impression is that what makes a place a tourist attraction and famous is having at some point been top dog over your neighborhood and thus being able to tax your neighbors and thus afford to build a lot of future ruins. As far as I can tell, the territory of Bulgaria has never for long been an imperial capital so the locals never got to exploit their neighbors and build themselves spectacular stuff.

    In contrast, when you're walking around Hagia Sophia and the Blue Mosque in Istanbul, you have to imagine the locals taxed a lot of Bulgarian peasants over the years to be able to afford stuff like this.

    As far as I can tell, the territory of Bulgaria has never for long been an imperial capital so the locals never got to exploit their neighbors and build themselves spectacular stuff.

    During the Byzantine era they were semi-reliable allies of the Greeks and controlled a fair amount of territory beyond modern Bulgaria. There was also a non-contiguous kingdom of Bulgarians in modern central Russia that was completely destroyed by the Mongolians.

    Basically the Bulgarians had a relationship with the Greeks where they’d either get paid off and help the Greeks fight their many enemies, or else they plunder the Byzantine countryside and possibly find a relative of the Emperor and install him in power over the non-cooperating Emperor. The tributes they demanded were reasonable, and they understood that they had to at least nominally acknowledge the superiority of the Byzantine emperor. Both groups were better off as allies, as the Greeks had more money, more advanced military tech and weaponry, and a solid navy, while the Bulgarian had numbers, physical size, and were braver in battle.

    Here’s a map showing an area of Europe under the Bulgarian Empire several times larger than the modern nation:

    Here’s the article about “the other Bulgaria” in modern Russia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Bulgaria

    • Replies: @J
    Sons and daughters of Hungarian Jews who travel to Budapest trying to understand their parents and then write books are becoming legion. Even my friend Gabi L. recently returned to Hungary to write a book on his Father. The phenomenon started with Michael Korda travelling to Hungary in 1956 and the newest is Susan Faludi. They all get it fantastically wrong. They return with the impression that, for example, their ancestors fed on paprikás csabai kolbász and went to church in their best on Saturday mornings. Yet Hungarian Jews would have never touched pork sausage and would never put a feet in a Christian church. To understand their ancestor's environment they should have come to Jerusalem Batey Ungarin neighborhood or to Monsey in NY State. Susan is pitiable for having been brought up without roots, but the real villains are those parents who launched their children into life as "Jews" yet without even a remote idea or link to Jewish identity. They kept silent wishing to protect their children, but the damaged them instead.
  161. J says: • Website
    @Lot

    As far as I can tell, the territory of Bulgaria has never for long been an imperial capital so the locals never got to exploit their neighbors and build themselves spectacular stuff.
     
    During the Byzantine era they were semi-reliable allies of the Greeks and controlled a fair amount of territory beyond modern Bulgaria. There was also a non-contiguous kingdom of Bulgarians in modern central Russia that was completely destroyed by the Mongolians.

    Basically the Bulgarians had a relationship with the Greeks where they'd either get paid off and help the Greeks fight their many enemies, or else they plunder the Byzantine countryside and possibly find a relative of the Emperor and install him in power over the non-cooperating Emperor. The tributes they demanded were reasonable, and they understood that they had to at least nominally acknowledge the superiority of the Byzantine emperor. Both groups were better off as allies, as the Greeks had more money, more advanced military tech and weaponry, and a solid navy, while the Bulgarian had numbers, physical size, and were braver in battle.

    Here's a map showing an area of Europe under the Bulgarian Empire several times larger than the modern nation:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Bulgarian_Empire#/media/File:Structure_of_the_First_Bulgarian_Empire_during_the_IX-X_century.png


    Here's the article about "the other Bulgaria" in modern Russia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Bulgaria

    Sons and daughters of Hungarian Jews who travel to Budapest trying to understand their parents and then write books are becoming legion. Even my friend Gabi L. recently returned to Hungary to write a book on his Father. The phenomenon started with Michael Korda travelling to Hungary in 1956 and the newest is Susan Faludi. They all get it fantastically wrong. They return with the impression that, for example, their ancestors fed on paprikás csabai kolbász and went to church in their best on Saturday mornings. Yet Hungarian Jews would have never touched pork sausage and would never put a feet in a Christian church. To understand their ancestor’s environment they should have come to Jerusalem Batey Ungarin neighborhood or to Monsey in NY State. Susan is pitiable for having been brought up without roots, but the real villains are those parents who launched their children into life as “Jews” yet without even a remote idea or link to Jewish identity. They kept silent wishing to protect their children, but the damaged them instead.

  162. @Romanian
    Finally, notoriety at last! And I agree that Romanian can become an adequate racial marker, the way the media is using it t refer to European peoples of subcontinental descent (and I mean descent).

    You're going to laugh, but I was peeved as a youngster by the lack of mention (name-dropping) of my country in the popular media I was viewing. Hungary, Serbia etc have a lot higher profiles in the Western mind, possibly because they historically sent out more immigrants than Romania (which only in the post-communist era came into its own as a phenomenon). To the lower classes before globalization, especially peasants, immigrating shamed your family by breaking the bond with the land, diminishing the extended family's capacity for solidarity etc. There are even jokes about this, with a peasant wanting to go to America in the 1930, and going to the train station to get a ticket bound for a port city on the European Atlantic coast. The teller asks him where he's going so he can give him the ticket, and the peasant shouts "what the f*** is it to you?".

    So, it's the late 90s and I'm watching the terrific spy show La femme Nikita. Suddenly, Michael says something about an operative being attacked by "Romanian guerillas operating near Bucharest". My 13 year old self was elated. Later, the Hitman gaming franchise placed the insane asylum where the doctor performed the genetic experiments and cruel/brutal conditioning that created Agent 47 and his clone brothers in Romania (also a level in one of the games). Cue high fives from all of my gamer friends. If Call of Duty ever lets you shoot Romanian terrorists, we will have made it in the public consciousness.

    On a related note, are ethnic markers becoming appropriate replacements for Whites in the victim totem pole in order for goodwhites who can pull it off to differentiate themselves from badwhites? "No, man, he ain't White-White, he Hungarian. Those immigrants have it hard man. They just like us". Or so budding SJWs would like to think.

    Not in Olympic weightlifting!

  163. @Anonymous
    Boxing gloves causes more head trauma because they allow boxers to aim hard punches at the head without risking breaking bones in their hands (which does happen even with gloves), not because the gloves cause more concussion by themselves.

    Unless there's some really weird physics going on with more energy being transmitted through longer contact or something like that. But that's certainly not the mainstram explanation for why gloves cause more head trauma and seems prima facie absurd.

    You are correct. Gloves reduce the likelihood of hand damage. Gloves also reduce the likelihood of bleeding faces. A bare-knuckled punch is much more likely to result in facial cuts of the sort that would cause referees to stop bouts.

    I don’t have the data to make the case but my strong suspicion is that MMA fighters suffer less brain trauma in the octagon than boxers do in the ring.

  164. One more time:
    There are men, women, the genetically malformed and the clinically insane.

  165. @Romanian
    Finally, notoriety at last! And I agree that Romanian can become an adequate racial marker, the way the media is using it t refer to European peoples of subcontinental descent (and I mean descent).

    You're going to laugh, but I was peeved as a youngster by the lack of mention (name-dropping) of my country in the popular media I was viewing. Hungary, Serbia etc have a lot higher profiles in the Western mind, possibly because they historically sent out more immigrants than Romania (which only in the post-communist era came into its own as a phenomenon). To the lower classes before globalization, especially peasants, immigrating shamed your family by breaking the bond with the land, diminishing the extended family's capacity for solidarity etc. There are even jokes about this, with a peasant wanting to go to America in the 1930, and going to the train station to get a ticket bound for a port city on the European Atlantic coast. The teller asks him where he's going so he can give him the ticket, and the peasant shouts "what the f*** is it to you?".

    So, it's the late 90s and I'm watching the terrific spy show La femme Nikita. Suddenly, Michael says something about an operative being attacked by "Romanian guerillas operating near Bucharest". My 13 year old self was elated. Later, the Hitman gaming franchise placed the insane asylum where the doctor performed the genetic experiments and cruel/brutal conditioning that created Agent 47 and his clone brothers in Romania (also a level in one of the games). Cue high fives from all of my gamer friends. If Call of Duty ever lets you shoot Romanian terrorists, we will have made it in the public consciousness.

    On a related note, are ethnic markers becoming appropriate replacements for Whites in the victim totem pole in order for goodwhites who can pull it off to differentiate themselves from badwhites? "No, man, he ain't White-White, he Hungarian. Those immigrants have it hard man. They just like us". Or so budding SJWs would like to think.

    Here’s the sum total of everything I know about your country.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/executioner-who-killed-romanian-dictator-4851422

    • Replies: @Romanian
    Well, that's a very sad lens to view a country through, but it's better than nothing.
  166. @Steve Sailer
    "Romania -- at least we're more famous than Bulgaria!"

    Bulgaria is amazingly obscure. When my son got a chance to go to Bulgaria for $400 I told him all about this 1990 World Cup game in Chicago I went to in Chicago where Bulgaria defeated Greece 4-0. He thought that sounded like a ridiculous thing to bring up in conversation with Bulgarians, but then it turned out that Bulgarians appreciated his anecdote about one of the highlights of their history.

    My impression is that what makes a place a tourist attraction and famous is having at some point been top dog over your neighborhood and thus being able to tax your neighbors and thus afford to build a lot of future ruins. As far as I can tell, the territory of Bulgaria has never for long been an imperial capital so the locals never got to exploit their neighbors and build themselves spectacular stuff.

    In contrast, when you're walking around Hagia Sophia and the Blue Mosque in Istanbul, you have to imagine the locals taxed a lot of Bulgarian peasants over the years to be able to afford stuff like this.

    “Bulgaria is amazingly obscure.”

    This is a good thing. That means Bulgaria is going to remain majority White a lot longer than a Germany and a France for example.

    • Replies: @Lot

    This is a good thing. That means Bulgaria is going to remain majority White a lot longer than a Germany and a France for example.
     
    Bulgaria might be the only country on the entire planet whiter now than 30 years ago. After the fall of the communist government around 1990 they chased out about half of their fairly large Turkish-speaking Muslim minority, about half went to Turkey the other half elsewhere in Europe.

    Some towns in the one Muslim-majority province of Bulgaria have half the population they did in the late 80's.

    Possibly Costa Rica and Thailand are whiter in 2016 than 1986 due to Western retirees and low fertility native populations. Possibly Israel too after accepting so many ex-soviet Jews in the late 80's and 90's.

  167. @Steve Sailer
    No, I've never taken a DNA test. As an adoptee who is a full-time professional writer, it would seem like a natural topic for a book proposal or a long magazine article. But I've never gotten around to taking a test. And the thought that I ought to do something serious and potentially profitable with the topic getting a DNA test has discouraged me from using up what material I already have by blogging for free about it.

    But someday, I hope, I'll get the test and write the book, along with my idea for a book about how the St. Andrews golf course inspired the theory of evolution. But a Surfeit of Events keep providing me with plenty of material to write about 350-360 days per year as it is. A Trump presidency would probably wear my typing fingers to the bone.

    Steve how would you react if you found out you have Ashkenazi DNA?

  168. @Bill Jones
    Here's the sum total of everything I know about your country.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/executioner-who-killed-romanian-dictator-4851422

    Well, that’s a very sad lens to view a country through, but it’s better than nothing.

  169. @Lot

    I also wonder if people are claiming to have Jewish ancestors (not on the alt-right of course) because it makes them sound more interesting.
     
    Steve's suspicions were black curly hair and love of verbal combat. That isn't unreasonable. Steve does not look Ashkenazi at all to me, but really only half or so Ashkenazi look particularly Jewish, and the percentage is even low for halfies. Guessing from photos is a fool's errand, but if I had to I'd saw either English or eastern Alpine/Slavic (Pole, Slovak, Swiss German, Austrian). Also, Steve is tall and mesomorphic, while tall Jews tend to be ectomorphs (famous examples: Howard Stern, Jeff Goldblum). The only 6-4ish Jewish mesomorph who is famous I can think of is Bob Einstein.

    Probably the typical Ashkenazi trait that is strongest in mixed marriages is the curly hair, which I understand is a dominant trait. (Most physical appearance traits are complicated and polygenic, so I understand hair texture is not the simple 7th grade intro to genetics monogenic trait, just using it as a short-hand).

    Curly hair is the one Ashkenazi feature I have too, I am light featured and do not have a Jewish nose. But let my hair grow out more than 3 or 4 inches and the result is a light brown JewFro with blond streaks from the sun. Last time I did this was five years ago and it was a hoot.

    “Curly hair is the one Ashkenazi feature I have too, I am light featured and do not have a Jewish nose.”

    I have the Jewish nose, even though I am not Jewish. I am more likely to find my doppelganger in Israel or Lebanon than in Sweden or Finland.

  170. @Jefferson
    "Bulgaria is amazingly obscure."

    This is a good thing. That means Bulgaria is going to remain majority White a lot longer than a Germany and a France for example.

    This is a good thing. That means Bulgaria is going to remain majority White a lot longer than a Germany and a France for example.

    Bulgaria might be the only country on the entire planet whiter now than 30 years ago. After the fall of the communist government around 1990 they chased out about half of their fairly large Turkish-speaking Muslim minority, about half went to Turkey the other half elsewhere in Europe.

    Some towns in the one Muslim-majority province of Bulgaria have half the population they did in the late 80’s.

    Possibly Costa Rica and Thailand are whiter in 2016 than 1986 due to Western retirees and low fertility native populations. Possibly Israel too after accepting so many ex-soviet Jews in the late 80’s and 90’s.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Possibly Costa Rica and Thailand are whiter in 2016 than 1986 due to Western retirees and low fertility native populations."

    Is that where wealthy White San Diegoans are retiring to?
    , @Jefferson
    "Bulgaria might be the only country on the entire planet whiter now than 30 years ago. After the fall of the communist government around 1990 they chased out about half of their fairly large Turkish-speaking Muslim minority, about half went to Turkey the other half elsewhere in Europe.

    Some towns in the one Muslim-majority province of Bulgaria have half the population they did in the late 80′s."

    Bulgaria bans the burqa. Bulgaria can get away with stuff like this because they don't have CAIR, The National Council Of La Raza, Black Lies Matter, The Southern Poverty Law Center, The ACLU, or any other KKKrazy Glue Of The Democratic Fringe groups.
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/18/bulgaria-becomes-third-country-ban-burqa/

    Bulgaria also doesn't have a Black president who lived in a Muslim country for a couple of years.
  171. If Ashkenazi men value looks and IQ equally, but gentiles weight looks higher than IQ, you will end up with the Jews scooping up the homely high IQ gentile girls and often getting them to convert.

    There’s a considerable amount of intermarriage between Jews and the gentile smart fraction. Donald Trump and Clinton both have etnically half-Jewish grandchildren. Pelosi has noted she has more grandchildren who practice Judaism than the average Jewish American woman.

    The most intelligent white Christians, New England WASPs, can’t marry secular Jews fast enough and have been doing so for quite sometime. There are Jewish-Episcopalians all over the higher ranks of society – Sulzberger Jr, Colorado Senator Michael Bennett, Cap Weinberger, Goldwater, John Forbes Kerry were/are all half-WASP Jews. Howard Dean III married a Jewess.

    • Replies: @Bee
    Don't forget that Donald Trump III's maternal grandfather was Jewish, as well.

    As for Episcopalians, I don't get that phrase "Jews earn like Episcopalians but vote like Puerto Ricans". Jews earn like Episcopalians and vote like them, too, since Episcopalians are very liberal.
    , @Mr. Anon
    "There’s a considerable amount of intermarriage between Jews and the gentile smart fraction. Donald Trump and Clinton both have etnically half-Jewish grandchildren. "

    I am not aware of any evidence that Chelsea Clinton is smart.
  172. @Lot

    This is a good thing. That means Bulgaria is going to remain majority White a lot longer than a Germany and a France for example.
     
    Bulgaria might be the only country on the entire planet whiter now than 30 years ago. After the fall of the communist government around 1990 they chased out about half of their fairly large Turkish-speaking Muslim minority, about half went to Turkey the other half elsewhere in Europe.

    Some towns in the one Muslim-majority province of Bulgaria have half the population they did in the late 80's.

    Possibly Costa Rica and Thailand are whiter in 2016 than 1986 due to Western retirees and low fertility native populations. Possibly Israel too after accepting so many ex-soviet Jews in the late 80's and 90's.

    “Possibly Costa Rica and Thailand are whiter in 2016 than 1986 due to Western retirees and low fertility native populations.”

    Is that where wealthy White San Diegoans are retiring to?

    • Replies: @Lot

    Is that where wealthy White San Diegoans are retiring to?
     
    Nope, they stay in their houses until they die mostly. "You can reassess the $37,000 Prop 13 valuation on my $2 million house out of my cold dead hands!"

    You'll never see so many happy elderly rich people in good repair as in La Jolla.

    Prole white San Diego men who are single/divorced often retire to the baja coast and find themselves a Mexican girlfriend 20+ years their junior. A condo by the beach 2 hours south of the Mexican border/boarder/boreder costs about $120,000. The beachside condo complexes in Baja are 60%+ california plates in the parking lots.
  173. Lot says:
    @Jefferson
    "Possibly Costa Rica and Thailand are whiter in 2016 than 1986 due to Western retirees and low fertility native populations."

    Is that where wealthy White San Diegoans are retiring to?

    Is that where wealthy White San Diegoans are retiring to?

    Nope, they stay in their houses until they die mostly. “You can reassess the $37,000 Prop 13 valuation on my $2 million house out of my cold dead hands!”

    You’ll never see so many happy elderly rich people in good repair as in La Jolla.

    Prole white San Diego men who are single/divorced often retire to the baja coast and find themselves a Mexican girlfriend 20+ years their junior. A condo by the beach 2 hours south of the Mexican border/boarder/boreder costs about $120,000. The beachside condo complexes in Baja are 60%+ california plates in the parking lots.

  174. @The Undiscovered Jew
    If Ashkenazi men value looks and IQ equally, but gentiles weight looks higher than IQ, you will end up with the Jews scooping up the homely high IQ gentile girls and often getting them to convert.

    There's a considerable amount of intermarriage between Jews and the gentile smart fraction. Donald Trump and Clinton both have etnically half-Jewish grandchildren. Pelosi has noted she has more grandchildren who practice Judaism than the average Jewish American woman.

    The most intelligent white Christians, New England WASPs, can't marry secular Jews fast enough and have been doing so for quite sometime. There are Jewish-Episcopalians all over the higher ranks of society - Sulzberger Jr, Colorado Senator Michael Bennett, Cap Weinberger, Goldwater, John Forbes Kerry were/are all half-WASP Jews. Howard Dean III married a Jewess.

    Don’t forget that Donald Trump III’s maternal grandfather was Jewish, as well.

    As for Episcopalians, I don’t get that phrase “Jews earn like Episcopalians but vote like Puerto Ricans”. Jews earn like Episcopalians and vote like them, too, since Episcopalians are very liberal.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The phrase about earning like Episcopalians but voting like Puerto Ricans dates back to the late 1960's when Episcopalians weren't so liberal.
  175. Jews earn like Episcopalians and vote like them, too, since Episcopalians are very liberal.

    Episcopalians haven’t been conservative since Coolidge, which was also the last time Jews were conservative. After the New Deal, New England WASPs have either been extreme progressive liberals like John Paul Stevens and Upton Sinclair or liberal Rockefeller establishment Republicans such as mayor Lindsay.

  176. @The Undiscovered Jew
    If Ashkenazi men value looks and IQ equally, but gentiles weight looks higher than IQ, you will end up with the Jews scooping up the homely high IQ gentile girls and often getting them to convert.

    There's a considerable amount of intermarriage between Jews and the gentile smart fraction. Donald Trump and Clinton both have etnically half-Jewish grandchildren. Pelosi has noted she has more grandchildren who practice Judaism than the average Jewish American woman.

    The most intelligent white Christians, New England WASPs, can't marry secular Jews fast enough and have been doing so for quite sometime. There are Jewish-Episcopalians all over the higher ranks of society - Sulzberger Jr, Colorado Senator Michael Bennett, Cap Weinberger, Goldwater, John Forbes Kerry were/are all half-WASP Jews. Howard Dean III married a Jewess.

    “There’s a considerable amount of intermarriage between Jews and the gentile smart fraction. Donald Trump and Clinton both have etnically half-Jewish grandchildren. ”

    I am not aware of any evidence that Chelsea Clinton is smart.

  177. @SFG
    I tend to agree with Derbyshire that we need different words for the fact and the act of sex at this point--it may be a sign of a degenerate society, but there you go.

    “I tend to agree with Derbyshire that we need different words for the fact and the act of sex at this point–it may be a sign of a degenerate society, but there you go.”

    Whenever I am given a form to fill-in with a “gender” category, I cross out “gender” and write “sex”. If other people can insist that their own peculiar “gender identity” be respected, then I can goddamned well insist that my choice of word for it be respected. Especially so as “sex” is the traditional and accurate actual biological category.

    We need to defend our language.

  178. @The Undiscovered Jew
    I mentioned this process a while ago because it seems strange that neither HBD nor KM have really looked at the incredible mating strategy that accompanies Jewish cultural and political prominence.

    Macdonald doesn't like mentioning the +70% intermarriage rate of secular Jews because it contradicts his entire thesis Jews are acting with cryptic ethnic interests in mind. It's so contradictory to his viewpoint that one of his writers at Occidental Observer tried, and of course failed, to debunk the intermarriage rate statistics as being lower than portrayed by every survey on the topic.

    But then again, his arguments and facts rarely fit together.

    “Macdonald doesn’t like mentioning the +70% intermarriage rate of secular Jews because it contradicts his entire thesis Jews are acting with cryptic ethnic interests in mind.”

    Who says that outbreeding has nothing to do with ethnic interests? The hordes of Gengis Khan interbred extensively as they conquered and raped their way across asia. Was Gengis Khan ever accused of not pursuing his ethnic interests.

    In any event, the remaining 30% of secular Jews who intermarry are, quite probably, consciously pursuing their perceived ethnic interests. 30% is a pretty big chunk.

    Of course, the lack of ethnic self-interest among Jews is legendary. That’s why there’s a popular website called JDate. Tell me, is there a WDate – for white gentiles?

    “But then again, his arguments and facts rarely fit together.”

    You just don’t like his facts. Probably for highly ethnically interested reasons.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "In any event, the remaining 30% of secular Jews who intermarry are, quite probably, consciously pursuing their perceived ethnic interests. 30% is a pretty big chunk."

    30 percent is not a pretty big chunk. The percentage of Non Jewish Whites in the world who marry within their own race is way higher than 30 percent. Even in countries where Whites are the Minority, the majority of Whites still marry other Whites. Whites show their racial tribalism in marriage statistics.

  179. @Steve Sailer
    "Romania -- at least we're more famous than Bulgaria!"

    Bulgaria is amazingly obscure. When my son got a chance to go to Bulgaria for $400 I told him all about this 1990 World Cup game in Chicago I went to in Chicago where Bulgaria defeated Greece 4-0. He thought that sounded like a ridiculous thing to bring up in conversation with Bulgarians, but then it turned out that Bulgarians appreciated his anecdote about one of the highlights of their history.

    My impression is that what makes a place a tourist attraction and famous is having at some point been top dog over your neighborhood and thus being able to tax your neighbors and thus afford to build a lot of future ruins. As far as I can tell, the territory of Bulgaria has never for long been an imperial capital so the locals never got to exploit their neighbors and build themselves spectacular stuff.

    In contrast, when you're walking around Hagia Sophia and the Blue Mosque in Istanbul, you have to imagine the locals taxed a lot of Bulgarian peasants over the years to be able to afford stuff like this.

    I’ve always been fascinated with Bulgaria precisely because it was a rather obscure place. I’ve always had a fascination with back of beyond places. And, as Anonymous Nephew pointed out, it has produced some really great folk music.

  180. @Mr. Anon
    "Macdonald doesn’t like mentioning the +70% intermarriage rate of secular Jews because it contradicts his entire thesis Jews are acting with cryptic ethnic interests in mind."

    Who says that outbreeding has nothing to do with ethnic interests? The hordes of Gengis Khan interbred extensively as they conquered and raped their way across asia. Was Gengis Khan ever accused of not pursuing his ethnic interests.

    In any event, the remaining 30% of secular Jews who intermarry are, quite probably, consciously pursuing their perceived ethnic interests. 30% is a pretty big chunk.

    Of course, the lack of ethnic self-interest among Jews is legendary. That's why there's a popular website called JDate. Tell me, is there a WDate - for white gentiles?

    "But then again, his arguments and facts rarely fit together."

    You just don't like his facts. Probably for highly ethnically interested reasons.

    “In any event, the remaining 30% of secular Jews who intermarry are, quite probably, consciously pursuing their perceived ethnic interests. 30% is a pretty big chunk.”

    30 percent is not a pretty big chunk. The percentage of Non Jewish Whites in the world who marry within their own race is way higher than 30 percent. Even in countries where Whites are the Minority, the majority of Whites still marry other Whites. Whites show their racial tribalism in marriage statistics.

  181. @Lot

    This is a good thing. That means Bulgaria is going to remain majority White a lot longer than a Germany and a France for example.
     
    Bulgaria might be the only country on the entire planet whiter now than 30 years ago. After the fall of the communist government around 1990 they chased out about half of their fairly large Turkish-speaking Muslim minority, about half went to Turkey the other half elsewhere in Europe.

    Some towns in the one Muslim-majority province of Bulgaria have half the population they did in the late 80's.

    Possibly Costa Rica and Thailand are whiter in 2016 than 1986 due to Western retirees and low fertility native populations. Possibly Israel too after accepting so many ex-soviet Jews in the late 80's and 90's.

    “Bulgaria might be the only country on the entire planet whiter now than 30 years ago. After the fall of the communist government around 1990 they chased out about half of their fairly large Turkish-speaking Muslim minority, about half went to Turkey the other half elsewhere in Europe.

    Some towns in the one Muslim-majority province of Bulgaria have half the population they did in the late 80′s.”

    Bulgaria bans the burqa. Bulgaria can get away with stuff like this because they don’t have CAIR, The National Council Of La Raza, Black Lies Matter, The Southern Poverty Law Center, The ACLU, or any other KKKrazy Glue Of The Democratic Fringe groups.
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/18/bulgaria-becomes-third-country-ban-burqa/

    Bulgaria also doesn’t have a Black president who lived in a Muslim country for a couple of years.

  182. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    Since I was adopted, a few years later I concluded that it was likely that I was half-Jewish biologically, (which indeed appears to be the case based on evidence my wife dug up when I was 30).
     
    Welcome to the half-Ashkenazi Christian club my brother! Assuming your wife was correct. For $199 23andme will tell you for sure, providing an estimate down to the tenth of a percentage point.

    My bet however is the half-Jewish info is probably wrong. I'd guess the percentage of babies up for adoption who are Jewish is under 0.5%. They are less likely to get knocked up young, more likely to get an abortion the rare events that do happen, and likely to have "waited too long" Jewish relatives or spinster aunts who would raise an unwanted baby.

    outraged by her desire to attend a Christian summer camp with a friend
     
    I went to an evangelical christian summer bible day camp one month per summer for a few years.

    My best friend's mother talked my mother into making me attend. It was actually plenty of fun but I nonetheless objected on the grounds that I had to get up every morning in the summer at 7am.

    The best part was probably sneaking off and kissing girls (closed mouth only, we were 9, 10, 11, and 12) and the muddy tug-of-war.

    The least fun part was that we were given little fortune-cookie style slips of paper with a single bible verse every day and told to recite it the next morning.

    There was an adoption agency in New York, the Louise Wise agency, that handled the cases of many Jewish adoptees decades ago. That agency has come up in the press a few times since the late 1990’s:

    A Son Given Up for Adoption is Found After Half a Century and Then Lost Again

    What the Jumans Didn’t Know About Michael

  183. @Bee
    Don't forget that Donald Trump III's maternal grandfather was Jewish, as well.

    As for Episcopalians, I don't get that phrase "Jews earn like Episcopalians but vote like Puerto Ricans". Jews earn like Episcopalians and vote like them, too, since Episcopalians are very liberal.

    The phrase about earning like Episcopalians but voting like Puerto Ricans dates back to the late 1960’s when Episcopalians weren’t so liberal.

  184. @Lot

    And, from a very early age, she was determined to marry a WASP, preferentially one with deep ancestral ties to the USA.
     
    I'd be interested if you could expand on this a bit. Do you know when she decided this and why? My parents married young (born in the mid-50's married in the mid 70's) and were both the smartest kids in their high school classes (a year apart.)

    There was not much choice, it was a middle class town less than 2% Jewish, and likely the vast majority of the Jews in such towns marry out. My oldest Jewish ancestor entered the USA in the 1850's and fought in the Civil War, and all of them were here by the 1900 census, so I am kind of surprised they avoided intermarriage so long. Though the brother of the 1850's immigrant and his wife, also a Prussian/Polish Jew, had a huge family, I think more than 10 children surviving to adulthood, and moved in the rural interior west, where I assume they were entirely merged into the local population.

    In the documentary Knocking a Jehovah’s Witness woman said that she used to babysit for Jews and thought Jewish men were great husbands so she wanted to marry a Jew. Her husband had been in concentration camps as a teen and saw how devoted Jehovah’s Witnesses were to their faith. Unlike other groups, JWs were allowed to leave the camps if they would sign a paper disavowing the religion, most refused. Their sons had zero interest in Judaism.

    Poor quality video but better than nothing.

    Stephen Dubner is co-author of Freakonomics. His parents met and married after they had both converted to Catholicism from Judaism. Stephen later returned to Judaism. He writes about the family in Turbulent Souls which has been republished as Choosing My Religion.

    The guy is this video was raised Catholic along with his 10 siblings although their mother was born Jewish. He became an Hasidic Jew.

  185. @anony-mouse
    '... But she learns that she’ll be rewarded if she generalizes and intellectualizes her resentment of a Jewish relative into blaming Society or Men or Stereotypes or anti-Semites or whatever it is that Gentiles can be made to feel guilty about...'

    Again? Aren't you worried Steve that say 20 years from now you'll decide to become Jewish? I'm extrapolating from what you've written about transsexuals, but not extrapolating too much.

    If you are a long-time reader of iSteve, you will remember that Steve is adopted, and quite possibly Jewish.

  186. @Steve Sailer
    "Romania -- at least we're more famous than Bulgaria!"

    Bulgaria is amazingly obscure. When my son got a chance to go to Bulgaria for $400 I told him all about this 1990 World Cup game in Chicago I went to in Chicago where Bulgaria defeated Greece 4-0. He thought that sounded like a ridiculous thing to bring up in conversation with Bulgarians, but then it turned out that Bulgarians appreciated his anecdote about one of the highlights of their history.

    My impression is that what makes a place a tourist attraction and famous is having at some point been top dog over your neighborhood and thus being able to tax your neighbors and thus afford to build a lot of future ruins. As far as I can tell, the territory of Bulgaria has never for long been an imperial capital so the locals never got to exploit their neighbors and build themselves spectacular stuff.

    In contrast, when you're walking around Hagia Sophia and the Blue Mosque in Istanbul, you have to imagine the locals taxed a lot of Bulgarian peasants over the years to be able to afford stuff like this.

    Mr Sailer, I’m back from a trip to Asia. I have to tell you that, without meaning to, the Bulgarians have pulled off a coup in Asian countries. I entered a supermarket and browsed the shelves and, lo and behold, I found a host of dairy products called Bulgaria, made by the (Japanese I assume) Meiji corporation). And then it hit me. This was Thailand, but I’d seen the same brand in a number of Chinese cities and forgotten about it. The communist Bulgarians had become synonymous with good dairy products in communist China and they basically were adopted as a brand by a private company wishing to capitalize on that image. I was astounded and instantly envious 🙂 . They’re probably the most memetically known country in Central and Eastern Europe. The closest we Romanians ever got to such notoriety is by exporting Communist films to Red China (detective flicks, historical movies) which older people still associate with Romania (though not the younger, who have an abundance of media, including Chinese, to view nowadays).


    http://www.soshiok.com/sites/default/files/public/styles/article_main_image/public/review/images/featured/20150525_yoghurt_STcopy.jpg?itok=DXn-U8Zd

  187. @Steve Sailer
    There's a baseball sabermetrics analyst who claims to now be a woman.

    I wouldn't be surprised if there were some kind of correlation with the autism spectrum, but it's pretty murky.

    Yes, there is a correlation with autism spectrum: https://sillyolme.wordpress.com/2014/09/21/autistic-sky/

  188. @Travis
    Autogynephiles start out as transvestites, and may resort to becoming transexuals when they can no longer get an erection. Since their genitals no longer function properly they mutilate their bodies so they can enjoy their fetish full time.

    While autogynephilia is progressive, it does not progress to transsexuality because they can’t get aroused… as MOST of them are still quite capable of erections right up to the day that they have SRS.

    Please, if you are going to say things about them, learn about them?

    https://sillyolme.wordpress.com/faq-on-the-science/

  189. @Big Bill
    The fascinating part is that they never discover their true, inner diesel dyke "deep down inside".

    I can't wait for the first transgender bull dyke who is interviewed by Barbara Walters and says the best thing about being a transgender bull dyke is that she never had to change her wardrobe or cut her hair differently, still carries a wallet, still wears overalls and wife beaters, and still wears men's boxers.

    Actually… that was MY first introduction to autogynephilic transsexuals in 1976, the day that I first attended a session at the Stanford University Medical Center’s Gender Dysphoria Clinic… 90% of them were wearing too much make-up and cocktail dresses, but a few of them were dressed like, and identified as bull dykes:

    This is my essay on this experience (among others): http://www.transkids.us/invisible.html

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