What a swizz. What about the pupils who go home for lunch? Or is that an unknown habit in Malibu?

Well, their parents are paying for it, though.

I really don’t know what to say.

Honk Honk, I guess.

ClownWorld

On second thought…

What does a free lunch in Malibu consist of?

Quinoa, Impossible meat and Spring Mix salad with Tandoori?

I’m a bit confused by something. If this is a universal program within California, why are they singling out Malibu? It seems like all of the students of the Pasadena USD and Beverly Hills High School are also getting two free meals a day as well.

The disparate impact from home lunch preparation must be reduced to zero as we must lessen the stigma associated with kids getting free lunches.

(Also, homebuyers were using %age of students getting free/subsidized meals as a metric to see what %age of students in a school were getting free lunches as a proxy for race/income demographics and we can’t have that, no sir. All students are equal in ability to learn, achieve and dunk basketballs.)

The trend in bureaucracy is to expand your fiefdom to amass power, to give yourself job security, and to justify your next raise. Firefighters are the pioneers of this strategy. Have you ever wondered to yourself how firemen came to be first-responders to every car crash, and how they carved out their monopoly in most jurisdictions over ambulance services? It’s because they shrewdly saw the writing on the wall that with better building materials and fire suppression systems that the need for an army of firemen to extinguish fires is waning.

Librarians have adopted the same strategy. The library is no longer a warehouse for books for the plebs who cannot afford books. Now they’re an early learning center. An internet access provider. A place to rent DVDs and video games. A resume builder workshop. A daycare for hobos. And a place to introduce your children to the neighborhood transexual pedophile. Baked in job security from every angle.

Public schools are aggressively moving to corner the food insecurity fiefdom. Doesn’t matter that it’s not related to the mission of public schools. It’s their job security. It’s their justification for a raise.

… The breakfast ladies will be underworked. What the kids private chefs whip up will be far superior.

Probably more a matter of obesity control and assuring good nutrition than assuring enough calories. As an Equity tool, this is far from their worst effort.

In a place less well off than Malibu, obesity is often a result of loading up on low quality carbs instead of healthy food. Considering the cost of meat and vegetables today, that’s a understandable.

For the well off, it’s often too many chips and donuts. Feeding the kids can at least put some brakes on our worst food impulses. Personally, I get ticked off every time my family tells me to pick up various toxic waste while I’m at the grocery, and being told I’m a monster and a fat shamer if I don’t come back with all that expensive addictive crap.

Ben and Jerry’s can go F#*\$ themselves. They will make me a widower, or worse.

During our brief foray in to large city public schools for our kids, they really enjoyed having breakfast available every morning. However, the options were all just absolutely loaded with sugar, so filling up kids with french toast sticks and syrup, pop tarts, and sugary cereal might not be the best strategy for maximizing learning.

Anyway, as with most things involving government, it would be useful to see who lobbied for this and who got the contracts.

The food insecurity PSAs declare, “Hunger can be hard to recognize. Hunger is everywhere. People you see every day, but never knew were hungry. This is hunger in America.”

Truly, it is hard to recognize hunger in people who are from 30 to 300 pounds overweight. I see these people every day and I didn’t realize they were having trouble getting enough to eat.

I get hungry at least twice a day, sometimes thrice. I’m constantly struggling with hunger and have to eat every single day to avoid hunger.

The problem is real and affects more people than one might expect.

During our brief foray in to large city public schools for our kids, they really enjoyed having breakfast available every morning. However, the options were all just absolutely loaded with sugar, so filling up kids with french toast sticks and syrup, pop tarts, and sugary cereal might not be the best strategy for maximizing learning.

That’s one of the problems with these programs (aside from the abdication of parental responsibility) – the choices will tend to default to the lowest common denominator. There are kids who will only eat junk, so if the school provides healthful balanced food a lot of it goes to waste. Also, as you scale up issues presented by kids with ridiculous and rare food allergies or religious food restrictions limit the offerings.

Further, junk tends to be less perishable (i.e., frozen, processed, loaded with sodium and sugar, shelf stable at room temperature) than eggs or fruit or other fresh breakfast fare that you may have offered at home.

The food insecurity PSAs declare, “Hunger can be hard to recognize. Hunger is everywhere. People you see every day, but never knew were hungry. This is hunger in America.”

Truly, it is hard to recognize hunger in people who are from 30 to 300 pounds overweight. I see these people every day and I didn’t realize they were having trouble getting enough to eat.

That’s what they’re getting at – obese urban types are actually “food insecure” and live in “food deserts” but your lying eyes can’t allow you to see that people running a substantial caloric surplus every day are really victims. You’d be “everything insecure” if you had no employment and a negative net worth too, but the reality is that these people know that they can depend on the government to fund EBT and feed them so they’re not in any way “insecure.”

The “food insecure” have chased ordinary supermarkets out of their neighborhoods with shrink and meritless slip and fall lawsuits and an unreliable labor force while rejecting the offer of fresh, perishable foods which require effort to prepare and can’t compete with the palatability of fast foods loaded with sodium, fat, and sugar which they prefer.

Just checked the closest public school to us out of curiosity. While they offer “fresh fruit” every day, the rest of the choices are sugar filled cereals, doughnuts and cinnamon rolls. I don’t see a single day in the next month where they offer any protein for breakfast. The lunches look a little better, at least with what it is called, but I doubt they are good either. Michelle Obama made a big deal about school lunches once, in between her trips to Five Guys. Doesn’t look like anything good came of that.

Obviously corruption plays a role, however giving kids healthy breakfasts they won’t eat is not useful. My guess is that Malibu kids will get healthier meals and will eat them unlike lower class kids. I predict this will be a big issue for the wokerati in the 2030’s

“ Also, homebuyers were using %age of students getting free/subsidized meals as a metric to see what %age of students in a school were getting free lunches as a proxy for race/income demographics and we can’t have that, no sir. All students are equal in ability to learn, achieve and dunk basketballs.”

California has ethnic breakdowns for every public school online, no need to use proxies.

“Food insecurity,” like “food desserts,” is just another con job. When I went to grade school way back during the Punic Wars, our school didn’t even have a cafeteria. Breakfast was something you ate at home before school. For lunch, you either walked home to have lunch (glorious!) or you brown-bagged. That was it.

But newer Americans and blacker Americans were unable to adequately do these things for their children, so here we are. It would be fun for one year to cancel ALL school food programs, just to see what would happen.

Likely the only children attending government school in Malibu are the sons and daughters of Housekeepers and Gardners.

Re: “Century of obesity”

According to the National Center for Health Statistics, the average weight of an American woman is 171 pounds. Yes, 171. (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/body-measurements.htm)

74% of American adults (male and female) are medically defined as overweight or obese.

It’s insane how fat Americans are. (And yes, blacks lead the pack, but whites are plenty hefty.)

One can look up Malibu High School.

https://www.niche.com/k12/malibu-high-school-malibu-ca/

500 students, 12% free lunch, and 75% non-Hispanic white. Much like the density, demographics, environmental footprint, and income, even the public high school in Malibu does not resemble the rest of California.

https://malibutimes.com/class-of-2022-is-the-27th-graduating-class-in-malibu-high-history

Supposedly, some kids couldn’t learn because they were hungry from lack of breakfast.
Any chance to eliminate environmental problems as an excuse for differences in grades must be utilized.

We have a Fall Festival pumpkin farm near me. I have done different jobs for them so I am sometimes there during the week. Cronic absenteeism is a big problem in Buffalo Public schools, both students and teachers. One day three full size school buses pulled into the parking lot, a total of fewer than thirty children disenbarked, followed by a teacher, a teachers aide, a bus driver and a bus aide. The driver and his aide later took the bagged lunches off the buses and onto the picnic tables. All BPS student get free lunches and breakfasts. When they were leaving I asked why they weren’t taking the unopened lunches. “We can’t store them and the kids and staff can’t take them home (yeah right.) Toss them in your dumpster’ There were at least forty lunches and drink boxes left if not more. I put them in the walk in cooler, the teens who work part time at the Farm enjoyed them. When I volunteered at an inner city soup kitchen a BPS principal would sometimes drop off unused lunches and breakfasts. She was breaking the rules but it disturbed her to see the daily waste. And Buffalo HS Seniors miss an average of 37 class days and teachers miss an average of 18 class days—-Buffalo News Articles. That is more tha seven weeks for the students and more than three weeks for the teachers.

Okay, but what about free brunch?

In Albuquerque 43% of students citywide are considered “chronically absent.”

I just talked to someone who is faculty at a major public research university.

A rare person at this institution, this person is a “natural conservative”, that is, not anyone who either reads National Review or iSteve, but someone who is really angry about the President Biden student-loan forgiveness. “I worked hard and didn’t drive a new car and I paid my student loans, and what is wrong with this generation?”

That said, my informant was OK with Malibu schools offering free breakfast and lunch. “If the people in that community want their tax dollars used for that purpose, let them do it.”

When you think of it, preparing sack lunches for the kids-in-school is yet another distraction for wealthy, high-power-career, dual-income parents. Maybe they prefer to pay more taxes so they don’t have this additional burden associated with having children.

Maybe at iSteve, we should think of this as a policy to encourage high-IQ white people to have children? Along with high-IQ South Asian and East Asian couples?

The fast food industrial complex is training the next generation of wage-earners to take their breakfast and lunch outside the home.

This is brilliant.

Since there’ll be nothing in the pantry at home, they might as well get takeout for dinner as well.

Why am I paying to feed rich people’s kids?

Whole heartedly agree.
Only this.
Their ‘diverse’ baby-mommas get NO EBT. Nonce. Dry rice, dry beans, one lb. margarine per month. No more EBT. Feed kids well, healthy parents, not so much.

I’ve got more great money saving ideas. See them at FJB.com(sarc).
Thanks.
Elvis has left the building.

They started universal free lunch in New York a few years ago, to end the stigma for the kids that needed it (or to gin up support for it, or just so more food could be sold through the government contracts). So yeah, Upper East Side parents were getting free meals for their kids (and I have 3 in public school).

Then, when Covid hit, we got pandemic EBT cards (food stamps) to replace the free meals we weren’t getting in the closed schools. If I recall correctly, we got about \$500+ per kid for Spring ’20, \$800+ per kid for Fall ’20, and just got \$375 per kid for Spring ’21.

Students in France get free lunch at school, and their obesity rate is relatively low. It is considered a way of getting students used to eating healthy food.

And people are perplexed at the sudden appearance of inflation.

The students in Pasadena’s public schools are the demographic that you’d expect to get free lunches. The Whites mostly have their kids in private schools. Judge Gitelson decreed that PUSD needed busing back in 1969, and it’s been downhill from there.

“Filling up kids with french toast sticks and syrup, pop tarts, and sugary cereal might not be the best strategy for maximizing learning.”

Who said the goal is to “maximize learning”?

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Don’t forget the insects.

Healthy and halal, too?

In the opposite sense, the demographics of Malibu High School don’t represent those of mine aeons ago. (You know, back when we hiked to school in the snow barefooted, uphill both ways. Actually, in winter, we waited for the bus sometimes in subzero weather, and our driver sometimes had to stop, get out, and adjust the tire chains… but I digress.)

My high school was approximately 100% non-Hispanic White, as far as I recall. No free meals. Nothing offered for breakfast. (Are you kidding? That was Mom’s job!) I took lunch to school in a brown paper bag. It generally consisted of a sandwich — like cheese or peanut butter and jelly you know — an apple or orange, and a candy bar.) The cafeteria served simple meals in those divided serving plates, a meat of some kind like meatloaf, a vegetable like green beans, a “dessert” like apple fritter or some such item. I didn’t like cafeteria food, as it seemed more dismal than just what my mother put in my paper bag.

The point is we didn’t care. We were upper-middle class white kids who didn’t care about lunch. We were in good shape and we were smart.

Oh, smart! There was no “AP” scam then. Many of us were qualified to go on to calculus and physics in high school. That was totally normal, and nobody gave advanced college credit for that, and the colleges didn’t recognize it.

Essentially, there was less bullshit.

Anyway, I find “75% non-Hispanic White” to be frankly a little bit on the dark side… I feel sorry for poor Malibu. (But don’t the children of Malibu’s stereotypical residents attend private schools? Aren’t the public schools mostly for the servants’ kids in a town like that today? Not when I went to school, mind you. Everything is actually much more stratified by economic levels now. It wasn’t so much way back then. Things in America have actually gotten much, much less equal along those lines.)

It’s cheaper for whatever company the school contracted to buy sugary crap, and the kids seem to like it. All of these schools hire out food service providers, and it’s a nice little racket for them while the schools don’t have to deal with the hassle of hiring a lunch lady or purchasing ingredients themselves

No The residents of Malibu are smart enough not to repeat the mistakes of the 20 th century . A typical maid’s neighborhood whose kids destroyed the public school system. The help lives in Santa Monica, WLA etc but not in Malibu. Plus nowadays there are gardening and cleaning services. Who deliver the help from wherever and their kids never get within miles of the household that hires them.

LA area maids are paid enough to afford a car insurance and gas. So they don’t have to live near enough for a short bus commute. Of course the welfare they get for being single moms with kids and no husband wink nudge pays for their basic rent utilities food clothes so they can easily pay car expenses.

Seeing what happened to Pasadena Ca Evanston Illinois, and thousands of neighborhoods where the help and their kids lived nearby it’s a good idea to check out where the maids live before you buy a house.

Every public school student in California gets free breakfast and lunch. Many private schools include lunch in the tuition. What’s the big deal.

Times have changed. The only Moms who stay home any more are in welfare. And in a way, that’s their job. And welfare and associated services creates even more jobs.

Well, their parents are paying for it, though.

Yeah, I can’t get excited–either way–by this.

This falls much more into the category of old style 20th-century mass uplift. Literacy, public school, electrification, farm-to-market roads, vitamin D in milk, iodine in salt, vaccinations, interstate highways …

That “white bread” world was a hell of a lot better than the shitty world the sneering minoritarians have pushed on us.

If the taxpayers of California end up paying for California kids breakfasts and lunches five days a week, and cutting some diversity b.s. instead … great. Unfortunately, they’ll pay for both.

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The real issues here:

— Americans are fat. Californians are in better shape than people in the South and Midwest, but still fat. It’s all over.

— Implementation. Who is getting the contracts and what food are they providing? Loading up on sugary breakfast is actually a very crappy way to start the day. It yo-yos your blood sugar and makes you hungry again. Carbs quickly jacking up blood sugar–unburned and turned into fat–is the American obesity driver.

Breakfast is actually a meal that should be skipped by most people who aren’t doing real physical labor. Don’t eat for at least 16 a day and let your body go into ketosis–fat burning.

A normal healthy–non-obese and active–kid is is fine getting some breakfast–maybe a couple strips of bacon and some eggs. But “education” for the fat kids should be learning to not have to have your face stuffed full of food all the time.

A really educational program would be you get your school’s free meals and exercise program based on BMI–not the number but fatness. Float test all the kids. The normies get breakfast and can pick whatever athletic activities they choose. A little overweight, we pull down your ration. The real obese fatties you don’t get the free breakfast and just a couple strips of bacon for lunch, and your education includes running your ass around several times a day.

Do you have a cite for that? And how can they be that specific that it is not 42% or 44%?

Fifty years ago, Hubert Humphrey– who was more radical than George McGovern ever was– was explicit in pushing this. Even, as a reporter inquired, for those kids “with \$5 bills in their pocket”. In other countries, this is called “universality”: The rich are entitled to partake of welfare benefits, too– as they are here, to Social Security, Medicare, and public schooling.

That \$5 would be about \$35 today. I bet many Malibu kids carry more than that, though likely on cards or apps rather than in cash.

Since most public schools had free lunch programs stating in the 1960’s, one is either misremembering or went to school a long time ago. If one went to school that long ago, one would have to realize how few students (especially girls) took calculus, physics, or a foreign language. In addition, fewer Americans went to college.

The data point to really remember is 1954 was the first year when more than 50% of 19 y/os had graduated from high school. Also, schools in smaller towns are not as stratified by income or race. It is always pointed out that blue collar white kids are much more likely to attend schools with the children of white collar parents whereas black kids are much more likely to attend schools where everyone is poor.

And asking questions about Malibu when one could have easily followed the link to the class of 2022 graduation shows how disinterested too many people are? Instead of asking questions, why not look up the answers.

What does a free lunch in Malibu consist of?

Quinoa, Impossible meat and Spring Mix salad with Tandoori?

Nah. It’s flown in from French Laundry upstate*:

“Beef And Broccoli ”
Charcoal grilled [J]apanese wagyu, broccoli florets, matsutake mushrooms and preserved pepper jus (100.00 supplement)

“Gougère”
Andante dairy “etude” and [A]ustralian black winter truffle “fondue”

*Do Californians say “upstate”? If not, then what?

There are many interesting photos and videos online showing school lunches around the world. Also, photos showing what was on the tray when it was served vs. what still remained on the tray when it was turned-in. Personally, I would disfavor high-carb, high-calorie lunches because of the sleepiness effect it would have; but I cannot remember whether I suffered from that as a youth.

Tennesse? Tulane? Don’t they teach geography at Malibu HS?

Ok, Eastern Tennessee is a nice area geographically and demographically compared to Tennessee proper. But still:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom

And Tulane? LOL. Yeah, I know it’s a white area, but still New Orleans.

Of course, our “elite” educators absolutely insist on dumping “diversity” onto Williams as well. And Colby–which ought to be an absolute whitetopia–probably has to settle to for 2nd tier diversity to import. (Though maybe they don’t pimp as hard as Williams. The most elite schools seem to really insist on getting their black quota up toward a “respectable” 10%.)

What does a free lunch in Malibu consist of?

California was the nation’s first state to enact a universal meal program, offering all public school students two free meals per day

So they’ve got the bread covered. What about the circuses?

USA gets lukewarm 2% milk–Italians get lukewarm chianti…

A good point. Our kids current school does not have a kitchen sufficient to provide meals, so for the first few years we were there it was packing a lunch every day, which sucked. Now you can opt into having a lunch brought in from the outside 3 days a week, which we gladly pay although it’s probably another \$2500 a year. I wish we could have it every day even if some of the options are essentially fast food.

Once schools get into the business of feeding SOME students, it eventually makes financial sense to feed ALL the students. Less paperwork and better economies of scale.

Put two thousand Blacks with IQs below 80 in Malibu, California. Do the same to Chappaqua, New York. Make sure the below 80 IQ Blacks are situated extremely close to the abodes of Rob Reiner and Hillary Clinton.

Make Rob “Meathead” Reiner and Hillary Clinton live cheek by jowl with the Blacks that they say they love so much. Hypocrite baby boomer slobs like Reiner and Clinton want you to experience the joys of living in a town or city full of Blacks with IQs below 80. They wouldn’t put up with it in a million years.

Rob Reiner supports making Malibu a so-called “sanctuary city” for illegal aliens. It would be proper to arrest and incarcerate the government figures in Malibu, California, who declared that Malibu is a safe harbor for illegal alien invaders. The plutocrat scum in Malibu want the illegal aliens for cheap labor, they don’t want them to live in Malibu.

Kale.

Kale juice, kale soup, and kale salad.

There is no limit to the sadism of school administrators.

DC, my Mom made me eggplant parm sandwiches on homemade bread when I was in HS, in grammar school I went home for lunch, our Parish school had no cafeteria. A half a parm sandwich was worth a pack of Winstons, we could smoke in the HS cafeteria.

Truth, that is sad. In Buffalo they take no attendance, but submit full vouchers for students in class.That is criminal.

You can be 200lb overweight and still be hungry.

Upstate would be “Northern California”.

Those lunches look way oversized. Particularly the Italian one. That’s a decent amount of pasta with–what looks like–a huge hunk of bread. (Maybe I don’t what it is.) And then a big bunch of grapes as well–healthier sugar water, but still a huge heaping of sugar water. For the football team sure. For a typical kid?

(My mom packed a sandwich. Then there was maybe a small clump of grapes and some carrots. Sometimes chips instead of the grapes. I did not starve and could concentrate in class, run around the track, play water polo or basketball or whatever the heck we were doing.)

This is why people are fat. They eat too much. Just because we are rich and farming is highly efficient–both good things–doesn’t mean we need to ram buckets of food into our mouths.

https://www.abqjournal.com/2526118/theyre-behind-perpetually-aps-battles-absenteeism-ex-nearly-43.html

I’m pretty sure I mentioned this 2 years back, but during the whole time that the local schools were first closed and then doing remote learning during the Kung Flu PanicFest, meals were being provided anyway.

We didn’t participate, but we’d get voice messages from the school district such as “You can pick up your 10 meals for each of your students on Monday.” I CAN be a sucker for free stuff, but we weren’t getting in a car line with the black mamas that could erupt at any time, and my wife would cook/make much healthier meals anyway.

Yes, there’s mission creep (per a commenter above about the firemen), plus lots of entitled Welfare-Staters expect all this.

Oh, I GUESS the meals were Covid~Zero, but I dunno …

Since there’ll be nothing in the pantry at home, they might as well get takeout for dinner as well.

Oh, the government (i.e. productive minority of tax victims) will have to subsidize that also. Vouchers or something.

“When the government dictates when and what you eat, citizen, then we will have no more semi-fascist voters to worry about…” J. Biden, 2023 announcement via CNN, et. al.

Got news for you. There are a lot of Southern colleges that have substantial cohorts of Californians and Texans, and this has been happening for a while. Some possible reasons include it getting harder to compete for non-diverse spots in the California system, but I suspect other factors include the kids and grandkids of southern Californians who were from the South originally and are in the reverse migration phase. Also, I suspect that kids find Southern schools to be a great place to party and not have to tiptoe continuously around PC dogmas (for the most part). It’s almost like that pic has a lot of subliminal social messaging going on about California’s future.

Breakfast is actually a meal that should be skipped by most people who aren’t doing real physical labor. Don’t eat for at least 16 a day and let your body go into ketosis–fat burning.

Yes, no fatties in the Gulags or Dachau.

“Useless eaters all!”

(What nonsense about diet/eating you are advocating…)

sadly the Feds have banned whole milk from school lunchrooms across America…yet they still serve flavored milk with added sugar you can only get Skim milk or non-fat milk…not even 2% milk is available in our schools today. The free lunch program promote high carb, low fat diets to keep our kids hungry and encourage obesity.

Mountain Dew Kickstart after hours perfectly legal in schools, whole milk unlawful. pic.twitter.com/RxdO4NdKrL

— NYFarmer (@NYFarmer) August 28, 2022

Healthy children aren’t wanted. They might think for themselves, can’t have that.

Students in France get free lunch at school, and their obesity rate is relatively low

Yup, and they all smoke cigarettes

I remember going to a Michelin starred restaurant and seeing the chef in an alley beforehand smoking a fag.

https://www.abqjournal.com/2526118/theyre-behind-perpetually-aps-battles-absenteeism-ex-nearly-43.html

All Public school costs in California are not paid by the local school district but by the state education department. Serrano vs priest 1966 put an end to local school districts paying for the local schools out of local residents property taxes.

Since Serrano vs priest 1966 a certain amount of local property sales and other taxes goes to the state and is allotted to the state department of education. Which sends the money back to the local school districts.

What world do you live in that you find cooked rather than brown bag school lunches such an astonishing concept?

Since most public schools had free lunch programs stating in the 1960’s, one is either misremembering or went to school a long time ago.

You’re misremembering.

There were school lunch vouchers for qualified poor people. In my school, the blacks would sell their vouchers to whomever for half price, then beg or shake down the white kids for their lunch money, or the food the white kids moms packed for them.

There was one large black kid in our school who would take portions off seperate white kids plates until his lunch needs were met. He’d take a hamburger here, some green beans there, someone’s milk over there, to wash down the pack of Oreo’s he took from the retarded kid.

He was a big sonofabitch, owing to being two years older than us, because he flunked a couple of times, and he got pissed off easily, so nobody ever turned him in. It was easier to let him have my milk, than worry about how I was going to sneak home from school without getting a beating.

That’s how it typically went down at newly integrated schools. Everybody didn’t qualify for vouchers.

Which is kind of the point if this thread.

My experience of Italy is that the children aren’t fat. Maybe their grandmas are, but you don’t see enormous crowds of obese adults there either, with their enormous buttocks overflowing the seats of their mobility scooters. Unlike the UK or US.

And how can they be that specific that it is not 42% or 44%?

Well, presumably they know how many kids are enrolled and how many are chronically absent. Why would precision of percentage point be difficult?

Breakfast like a king.
Lunch like a Prince.
Eat dinner like a pauper.

Gorbachev.

Lauded in the West for helping bring down the Berlin Wall and end the Cold War without bloodshed, Mikhail Gorbachev was despised at home as the gravedigger of the communist Soviet Union. He has died at age 91 https://t.co/XSpYc0fifx pic.twitter.com/aK8Xx9QCTB

— Reuters (@Reuters) August 30, 2022

I am struck by the fact that most of these kids aren’t very good looking. Some of them look slightly inbred. But more surprisingly is their shitty physical condition, and they just look weak.

Look at those disgustingly fat legs! On rich teens!

https://i0.wp.com/malibutimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/MHS1.jpg?resize=696%2C522&ssl=1

Malibu aside, this is Southern California! In my heyday there, back in the seventies, you just didn’t have all these abominable fat chicks and weird-looking dough boys floating around! If I had to chose from these fat things when I was eighteen, I’d be a flipping celibate!

So. Cal men from the seventies were so SPOILED!

Lowest percentage of fat chicks in the nation!!

We didn’t know what we had!!

This is just the first step:

“The state took full responsibility for providing its citizens with daytime meals.

“The idea of organized collective dining out fitted very well with the ideology of the young Soviet state: a kitchen of one’s own was considered a relic of the past, a woman should be freed from “kitchen slavery” and given freedom and work, on a par with a man. Kitchens were turned into workshops and outsourced. Thus, the socialist revolution was followed by a lifestyle revolution…

“ Schools were also decked out with canteens that served hot meals. Parents no longer had to think about how to feed their children while they were at work – it was also good for kids to eat together. In tsarist gymnasiums only the poorest students were exempt from paying for meals, while Soviet school canteens offered free meals for all pupils.

“At the same time, canteens helped solve the problem of food shortages: for example, cutlets usually had a lot of bread added to the minced meat (a tradition that still survives), while vegetable salads had a lot of rich mayonnaise in them to boost calories.

“Meals served at school, university, and factory canteens were approximately the same. Everything was cooked according to state standards (GOST), to ensure all dishes in any canteen in any Soviet city (although in practice, of course, that was not the case) were the same.

(Via Russia Beyond)

They might be saving money by not having a cashier. Public school cafeteria staff probably get full benefits including health care and pension. The electronic payments system might also have been a bloated government contractor scam.

Franklin University in Ticino canton is where Tibor Machan of Reason magazine taught. Their tuition fee for a single semester was one of the first, if not the first, to reach five figures. I’m afraid to ask what it is today. Perhaps the connections made there are worth it.

https://www.fus.edu/

Nice grounds, though, not to mention setting:

I meant in the adverbial, directional sense. Do SoCal people go “up north”, or what?

I just read that in the UK they are anticipating lack of natural gas next winter and I have read a suggestion of “warming centers.” (The gas shortage is entirely the result of antagonizing Russia over Ukraine).

A new entity is born. It makes less sense than cooling centers for hot climates as the peak need is during the day. A warming centre that tosses you at nightfall is pretty useless.

If one went to school that long ago, one would have to realize how few students (especially girls) took calculus, physics, or a foreign language.

Foreign languages were always more popular among the girls than among the boys. As a language buff, I sure didn’t mind!

Do they eat breakfast? Every time the Obama-Clinton clique gets power, one of their big priorities (besides starting wars and selling intelligence) is opening the pipeline of government payoff for places that know how to count votes Democratically. One of the few substantive things Trump did (and the major reason Democrats hate him) was to go after rewards for voting. I suspect that the idea that anyone in Malibu needs food is the near-end-point of a Democrat money stream.

(What nonsense about diet/eating you are advocating…)

No, it’s not nonsense. It’s not only correct, it’s pretty obvious.

Americans are fat basically because
a) they eat too much
b) lots and lots of easy digested carbs, that fairly quickly raise blood sugar levels which if you aren’t burning them off … get converted into fat. And the plunging blood sugar level tends to make people hungry again.

And if you want to lose fat, you basically have to put your body into ketosis–i.e. not have available blood sugar for a while.

And year in year out, basically the only diet that actually seems to work for a good number of people is some form or another of “low-carb”.

Not saying any of this will work for you, but it’s simply the way it is. We have evolved a bunch of new traits since the neolithic revolution but a brand new carbohydrate metabolism is not one of them. And now cheap carbs are abundant and everywhere.

They can only hope the Climate Crisis™ comes to fruition first, Mrs Katz. It’s a race for the comfort of Western Europe. Anyone want to put his money where his mouth is?

Check out Our Lady of Malibu Parish School. Pre school to 8. About 100 students and room for more. 1 teacher for 8 or 9 kids. Very high level academics 3 foreign language programs. Lots of after school clubs. And I doubt there’s a gender re assignment counselor on staff.
Also, teach both printing and cursive starting Kindergarten . California public schools don’t teach printing past 1 first grade anymore. Can’t write cursive can’t print can’t read. But they know CRT .

That would be a great great teaching job. 9 kids in the class.

Haha!

Michelle Obama made a big deal about school lunches once, in between her trips to Five Guys. Doesn’t look like anything good came of that.

I remember, Bernard, that “Eat your broccoli” was her First Lady project. Most of them had one, other than the evil ambitious grifters (not mentioning any names here to protect the anti-Christaline). See Washington FS and First Ladies. I was really hoping Melania Trump’s project would have something to do with lingerie modeling.

Anyway, I think the idea with Michelle was a “scared straight” kind of thing.

The preschoolers are way ahead of you, Doc.

BTW, I think the \$100 bill on the sidewalk is providing essentially “white college”.

This is a 2nd banana issue. The big higher education win for conservatives is to bring in some sort of credentialling through competency testing. I’ve written about it several times and its benefits are just enormous in terms of teenager motivation, family life, family formation, fertility and turfing out huge numbers of useless eaters that are part of the state party’s apparat.

However, many people do want to go to college. And I think there is an open space for a college that:
— teaches traditional Western cannon
— does *not* do diversity at all and ergo is very white and Asian
— has an explicit pro-marriage and traditional dating-toward-marriage culture.

This would appeal to a lot of not just conservative, but normie parents. Granted a there are a lot of yard-signers who are–claim to be–“diversity!” believers and want the–carefully curated–diversity (blacks). But most white people do not care and a campus that is
— safe
— has a great student body of other white/Asian kids (potential marriage partners)
— has high quality educational programs
would be highly appealling.

The problem is lock-in. It’s a winning path for a liberal-arts college that is not top tier … but getting the conversion done in the face of the faculty is difficult. Basically someone would have to close the school down, turf everyone out and then reopen “under new management”.

Seriously most people don’t eat a healthy high protein breakfast of bacon eggs and toast. They have bagels rolls some kind of pastry. Unless they go to evil Macdonald’s and get an egg McMuffin eggs bacon and bread. Interesting bacon eggs and toast at home is virtuous and nutritious. But bacon eggs and toast from macdonalds is evil fattening and bad bad bad.

It wasn’t enough to make just Dad obsolete

Kale is great except for being a feminizing food. Maybe no one has brought up this angle but I’m guessing that prioritizing masculinizing food for boys (no sugar, herring, eggs, nuts, etc) is not going to happen in Malibu.

Let’s hope they are more careful than this with the juice:

Death at California elderly home after dishwasher soap served instead of juice

In other news, Mikhail Gorbachev has passed on. Did you know he was still alive? One Grand Old Day in St Paul, he rode down Summit Ave to visit the Governor at the mansion. NRBQ was playing outdoors on Grand Ave, one block to the south. I had to make a decision. I went with the Q.

Who were probably never spied on by the FBI:

Micky Dolenz Sues the FBI, Seeking Access to Agency’s Files on the Monkees

But do they give them free cigarettes? I suspect the little Frenchies would much prefer those to fromage or whatever.

Exclude all outside food from Malibu public schools and make the students eat the “healthy choices” crap first lady Michelle Obama was trying to foist on the nation’s kids a decade ago. Alice Waters can whip up an excellent meal worm and cricket casserole for the rich kiddies.

Does that happen anywhere in the US anymore? I find it hard to imagine an American school just releasing students into the wild at lunchtime.

Pickup after school at my children’s elementary school involved a school-approved placard with the student’s name and a minder to ask “Is that your dad?”

Pournelle’s iron law of bureaucracy. This is only the start, next is the organic, locally sourced, responsibly grown food procurement officer. They will absolutely need to hire a couple of Dieticians. The Dieticians will need to be able to refer students to counselors for various food related issues, poor self image, bulimia etc. And finally, for all that leftover food, it has to be composted and distributed to local gardens and farming operations.

Fat legs, they’re all wearing long pants. Can’t see the legs. And loose fitting tops None of them look fat chubby or anything but normal slim.,

https://blog.collegevine.com/what-does-it-really-take-to-get-into-southern-methodist-university/

SAT/ACT

The middle 50% SAT score of Southern Methodist University’s Class of 2025 is 1250-1440. The Class of 2025’s middle 50% ACT score is 29-33.

Sounds competitive.

While the South is known for its party schools, some of their institutions have become very competitive in recent years. Like Vanderbilt and UGA.

Indeed. \$5k in about a year and a half.

The Covid school shutdowns really gave away the game in New York — The widely voiced lib concern was never “Children will be dumb” but “Children will go hungry.” So schools that supposedly were unsafe for class were still used as staging grounds for free breakfast and lunch. Public schools exist mainly to provide babysitting and catering services

In the US, it is unusual that students have the right to go home for lunch. One of my children had the right to leave his school at lunch, but the time allowed was only 30 minutes, so his choice was never to come to our home (20 minutes away) but to walk to a nearby burrito shop (his school was downtown). So almost no one can go home for lunch.

On the other hand, low-income students have the right to a free lunch at school. In fact, they usually have the right to a free breakfast. The free meals typically are also available even when schools are closed, such as during the COVID lockdowns (This generosity is an important part of taxpayers’ strenuous efforts to encourage the reproduction of those who can’t afford to have children).

But there is the worry that allowing students to walk pass the lunchroom cashier without paying is traumatizing to the non-paying student. So, even in relatively high-income school districts, there has been a tendency to expand the free lunch to everyone. Apparently, even in Malibu.

Going home for lunch? That’s been an unknown habit in all public schools for decades.

How old are you?

Got news for you. There are a lot of Southern colleges that have substantial cohorts of Californians and Texans, and this has been happening for a while. Some possible reasons include it getting harder to compete for non-diverse spots in the California system …

No argument. But you did a whole paragraph and did not say the “A-word”.

Seriously most people don’t eat a healthy high protein breakfast of bacon eggs and toast. They have bagels rolls some kind of pastry. Unless they go to evil Macdonald’s and get an egg McMuffin eggs bacon and bread. Interesting bacon eggs and toast at home is virtuous and nutritious. But bacon eggs and toast from macdonalds is evil fattening and bad bad bad.

Agree. I do not eat breakfast, but I think people who go for something with some protein and fat instead of just carbs, are better off–and do not get hungry again so fast.

And, yeah, the fast food bashing is basically nonsense. Food being fast does not cause trouble, It is
— what food
— how much.

I rarely eat out–fast or otherwise–but I cook for myself very simply and a lot of what I eat is more or less the same as what I’d get at Taco Bell or McDonalds. (I had some taco beef for lunch with some salad and a bit of bread with peanut butter an hour or so back.) I’m old and not dead yet. (Yet–fingers crossed. Hopefully my time is later rather than sooner.)

But what I don’t do is scarf up massive quantities of sugary soda, donuts, pastries, muffins, french fries, pies, cakes … if I did, I’d quickly bloat up, and wake up some morning and find AnotherMom had sold me to the packing plant.

Americans have just become massively ridiculous and it is, yes carbs, but mostly just unwillingness to stuff jamming stuff in.

https://twitter.com/HallieBiden/status/1564278325379534848
Biden just misspoke at a speech and promised to make sure “no one has the opportunity to steal an election again.”

“ Anyway, I find “75% non-Hispanic White” to be frankly a little bit on the dark side”

The other 25% will be mostly NE Asian, with a smattering of white hispanics. I suppose a few live-in maids might have kids living in a casita.

The median home value in Malibu is about \$7 million.

“The median home value in Malibu is about \$7 million.”

A niggardly \$7 million!

“ BTW, I think the \$100 bill on the sidewalk is providing essentially “white college”.”

Hmm, here are some ideas:

make it Jewish

physical fitness requirement that would screen out 20% of whites but 75% of asians and mestizos

use the ACT instead of SAT

white youth in cowboy hats on horses in the website homepage, showcasing that horseback riding is a required first year course. Hispanics would like that as much as whites, but blacks and asians wouldn’t.

OT – Beto O’Rourke’s spokesperson quick to clarify that Beto does NOT have monkeypox:

A spokesperson for Beto O'Rourke told Reuters that doctors diagnosed him with a bacterial infection, not monkeypox, as some online are claiminghttps://t.co/ZXahuQzJKo pic.twitter.com/aDLO9Fh8tI

— Reuters Fact Check (@ReutersFacts) August 29, 2022

The spokesperson hastened to add: “Not that there’s anything wrong with that!”

I don’t care how many stars your restaurant rates, you still can’t go around shooting homosexuals in alleyways.

It’s the current year.

Thanks, Anon7.

Cafeteria lunches in my school daze (1960s-1970s) cost something like 65 cents. I lived and went to public schools on both coasts and in the Rocky Mountain region. The one thing I bought mostly was the traditional 1/2 pint of milk, and that cost about ten cents or so.

My recollections about what classes we took are based on my circle of friends. Yes, the smart offspring of smart parents. There were girls in our math classes, and lots of them, as Reg suggests, in my German classes. Every single one of my high school friends went to college and became a professional of one sort or another. But then again, I didn’t go to high school in a typical town. (And Malibu isn’t typical either.) Sorry to offend your sensibilities of what was normal. It was normal for us.

No doubt the school lunches were subsidized by my parents’ property taxes. I can’t imagine otherwise such a low price, but maybe I should spend some time researching that after I read through your links about Malibu High School.

Your links don’t help me answer my question: How many Malibu kids go to private schools?

But thanks anyway. BTW, your moniker really should be “obnoxious prick.” I didn’t write my previous reply expecting such snark and frankly idiotic, tangential pedantry.

Sheer ignorance. Bacon is never good for you: 60% of the fat is saturated palmitic acid triglycerides, which are proven to raise LDL-c, especially small particle LDL which is the biggest risk factor for arteriosclerosis. Bacon, as it is prepared, which involves toasting it, is loaded with heterocyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, which are *proven* carcinogens. Furthermore, pig meat can cause infection by trichinosis. If the tapeworm goes to the brain, it can be fatal.

As for eggs, an egg or two can be good for you…a week. While it’s true that egg yolks are loaded with fat-soluble vitamins and phospholipids which are good for you, a single egg yolk has 200 milligrams of cholesterol in it. And while there is no direct link between ingested cholesterol and blood cholesterol, cholesterol can oxidize and cause inflammatory damage to blood vessels.

Your Apolipoprotein B levels must be through the roof if you eat this every day for breakfast. The reason why so many people defend these foods and try to manufacture non-existent health reasons to ingest them is because these foods are *palatable* . They are much funner to eat than a green salad with no oils and just some lemon juice. But justy because a food is tasty doesn’t mean that it is good for you. Evolution programmed Humans and other animals to prefer foods rich in fat and sugar because they are loaded with calories, and calories are the name of the game when it comes to survival. In the distant past, that was ok because these rich meals were rare. Cavemen did not eat eggs and bacon for “breakfast” every day. Caveman would go a whole week without eating anything, then when they successfully killed an animal they would eat all of it including the bone marrow. They would go days without food, and then find an orchard ful of ripe apples and eat them until they got sugar headaches. Point is, these meals were rare, so the negative health consequences of eating tons of fat and sugar were mitigated by constant fasting and a lifestyle that was extremely active.

You are completely delusional if you think that eating “home made” bacon and eggs every day for breakfast is good for you. In fact, this was the typical American breakfast back in the 50’s, and men from those generations often died in their fifties and sixties from heart attacks, something that only changed in the 80’s with the arrival of statins and healthier lower fat diets – even on statins, eating pork lard every day gives you a 50% chance of having a heart attack before age 70.

Let’s hope they are more careful than this with the juice:

Death at California elderly home after dishwasher soap served instead of juice

How could they (the ones drinking it) not instantly tell that it wasn’t juice?

In other news, Mikhail Gorbachev has passed on. Did you know he was still alive?

I saw that. I figured he was still alive as I did not previously remember hearing that he had died.

It’s remarkable the speed at which Gorbachev turned from being a Soviet apparatchik to being a globablist NWO stooge.

Yes, probably few if any people of modest means residing there. That’s understood. It’s actually kind of encouraging, in a cute way, that so many rich kids are going to public school — and the question of how many don’t is moot here.

As I implied, it used to be common for affluent parents to send their children to public school. Maybe in a place like Malibu, they still do because there is nothing to avoid. What’s interesting is that they feel the public school offers the academics they want.

How big is the white physical advantage over hispanics?

Well here’s a study comparing muscle strength between white black and Hispanic men. It isn’t perfect, but is dramatic in its results.

Look at table 6.

https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/43432209/Blakely_et_al.-with-cover-page-v2.pdf

Whites beat blacks on two tests, blacks win on two, and the combined score blacks have a statistically insignificant advantage of about 0.015 of a standard deviation.

By contrast, the white and black advantage over Hispanics is about .41 of an SD. The mean all-age Hispanic score of 660 is only slightly higher than the all-race average of men in their 60s of 652. This suggests all-age hispanic men scored below the white and black 60-70 year old group in the strength tests!

Here’s the abstract of a 1987 study:

“ 1. The maximum voluntary isometric contraction (MVC) of the dominant quadriceps muscle was measured in 136 healthy White and 172 healthy Hindu Asian subjects resident in London, using a specially designed chair equipped with a force measuring load cell.

2. Males were stronger than females, and for both sexes MVC declined with age. From age 20 to 60 the annual decline in MVC ranged from 0.56% in White males to 1.5% in female Asians.

3. White subjects were stronger than Asian subjects even after correcting for the effect of age, height, weight and sex in a multi-factorial analysis.”

Times have changed.

They have? Golly gee!

How come parents who can feed themselves in the morning can’t feed their offspring?

Is it like how they can’t seem to make their own coffee anymore? There is a business center I go to that has a Starbucks, and there is always a line of cars at the drive-thru. Yes, no matter what time of day, morning, lunch, people wait in a line of cars for coffee — to wait from their oh-so-busy lives. Puleeze!

The same asshats who pay whatever \$\$\$ to wait in line burning gas to buy charred coffee are the same asshats who want my taxes to feed breakfast to their kids. There is no excuse whatsoever for sending your kid to school expecting me to buy him breakfast for you. Maybe you should take him through a drive-thru on the way for some crappy fast food and then drop him at school for his babysitting. Trust me, you have time for that if you have time for a line of ten cars for your morning coffee.

I think in U.S.A. most students don’t go home for lunch. Either they eat at school cafeteria (free or paid), bring their own from home or sometimes go out to nearby restaurants etc.,

Yes, from what I have seen of school lunches, as a teacher, you couldn’t pay me to eat most of them…Tons of food going into the trash, I predict…

Try this link:

https://www.academia.edu/22892618/THE_VALIDITY_OF_ISOMETRIC_STRENGTH_TESTS

Out here, our local libraries have started a new project. It is loaning out instruments and such – like musical instruments, electronics, tools etc., It is called Library of Things. One useful new addition they have is 3-D printers. You can bring a design and get an item made.

Cronic absenteeism is a big problem in Buffalo Public schools, both students and teachers.

What could be the reasons? Is this common in other places too? I suppose this is not Covid/post-Covid anomaly?

Many school districts forbid students from leaving during the day.

When I was in high school, my class (2003) was the first to be denied off-campus lunch privileges – when we were juniors, the seniors could leave, but we couldn’t.

Well, I have news for you. A fair number of Malibu students are low-income children of third-world Amerindian maids. How is that? Malibu is part of Santa Monica’s school district which has a program to bring diversity to their schools by allowing parents who work in Santa Monica or Malibu to enroll their low IQ progeny in their district. Maibu, of course, is not happy about this and is in the process of incorporating its own district, which may take a few years.

Every public school student in California gets free breakfast and lunch. Many private schools include lunch in the tuition. What’s the big deal.

It has to do with mission creep, more than anything else. Consider that many poor kids also don’t get high quality food for dinner. Why not serve dinner at school then too? And it must be served to everyone, even the kids who go home. Otherwise Disparate Impact.

Some kids don’t have high quality housing to go home to anyway. Why not provide dormitories with the schools? For all kids.

Some kids don’t have high quality parents, so why not…

The problem is real and affects more people than one might expect.

Sadly, the obese are hardest hit by the hunger crisis.

Hey, Joe. Your comment about the unused lunches reminded me of a program that got implemented several years back at the school my wife works at. It’s a low performing, low-income student school and the powers that be determined that it wasn’t just that the kids didn’t have access to food, it was that the kids didn’t have access to exotic food. So, they signed on to some program that provided 2 servings of fresh fruits for every student, every school day for the school year. But wait! There’s more! They were not only provided with 2 servings, but the program also mandated that students be given “exotic” fruits at least twice a week. So, students were given starfruit, dragon fruit, and other exotic fruit, in addition to apples, pears, peaches, and so on.

As if that isn’t enough to blow the mind, all of this fruit nonsense couldn’t be done before school or during lunch. Part of the program mandated that the students be served the fruit by a classroom teacher during class time. The theory was if they simply got it on the way in or in a lunch line, they’d just toss it in the trash untried. So, every day at the beginning of 5th period, my wife and the other teachers would start their class by going from desk to desk offering the students their fruit. The kids were not required to eat it or even take it, but it was there for them. The program proved to be wildly unpopular. The kids wanted chips and other snack type food. To try and cajole the kids, the principal decided that Tajin, a disgusting combination of mild chili powder, lime, and salt was to be offered to the students to “flavor” the fruit. It really defeats the attempt to get kids to taste new things if you’re just going to drench it in powdered spice. After one day of watching the students drench the fruit in the Tajin, my wife told the students that she was required to season the fruit to ensure the students didn’t use more than their share. Further, once the small bottle ran out a few days later, my wife told the students that she was waiting for resupply which she actually never asked for because it was disgusting and unhealthful to see the kids pile on 15 servings worth of spice on 3 apple slices.

Long story short, the program was a total failure, most kids never took a single piece of fruit, and tons of fruit got tossed straight into the dumpster. My wife asked if she could bring some extra fruit home and the reply was, of course, not possible. One of the custodians, equally disgusted with the waste as my wife and many of her colleagues, secretly boxed the excess fruit and distributed it to like-minded adults on the way out to the parking lot after school. My kids got to eat some really interesting fruits that year, some that I had never even heard of or tried (I vividly remember eating something called “rambutan”. It was a spikey fruit from South Asia. Pretty tasty, as I recall, but very strange looking). All on the taxpayer dime. What an absolute waste and shame. Frequent poster Abolishpubliceducation would have a field day with this story…

However, many people do want to go to college. And I think there is an open space for a college that:
— teaches traditional Western cannon
— does *not* do diversity at all and ergo is very white and Asian
— has an explicit pro-marriage and traditional dating-toward-marriage culture.

There are colleges that are like this, e.g. Thomas Aquinas College and University of Dallas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Aquinas_College

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Dallas

make it Jewish

physical fitness requirement that would screen out 20% of whites but 75% of asians and mestizos

How would the (American) Jews do in this “physical fitness requirement”?

Besides, we already have Jewish-dominated universities. They are called the Ivies. I attended two of them. I don’t think they are much into the Western canon and traditional morality these days. Indeed, they actively agitate against the latter.

As for the physical fitness: https://www.statista.com/statistics/207436/overweight-and-obesity-rates-for-adults-by-ethnicity/

Obesity rates for adults in the United States in 2020, by ethnicity
White 30.2%
Black 42.4%
Hispanic 35.9%
Asian/Pacific Islander 13.2%
American Indian/Alaska Native 37.1%
Other 30.5%

And, of course, the “Asian/Pacific Islander” category includes wildly divergent people. There have been numerous Americans of East Asian background who are elite athletes, but South Asians (Indians, Pakistanis, and Bangladeshis) not so much. And they also have extremely divergent health and longevity profiles, with the former being very healthy, have low obesity, and live long while the latter suffer from obesity and highly elevated cardiac issues (even controlling for obesity). “Indian heart” is a thing in medicine.

Americans are fat basically because
a) they eat too much
b) lots and lots of easy digested carb

You are only half correct. Americans are fat because a) they eat too much and b) they are too sedentary.

Types of food matter only at the margins. Americans who live in, say, Italy or Korea often end up losing large amounts of weight, because a) the portions are smaller and b) they are constantly on their feet, relying on buses, subway, and trains rather than driving everywhere and generally walk a whole lot more all the while eating very carb-heavy diet (pasta, rice).

Even within the U.S., there is difference in obesity between urban and rural populations, with the latter having higher obesity rates, likely for the same reasons.

Hillsdale, which has satellite schools outside of Michigan.

They suffer from a skin condition which inhibits impulse control and it’s only made worse by lack of sunlight.

Furthermore, pig meat can cause infection by trichinosis.

The most common source of trichinosis in the U.S. is bear meat. Your scare tactics are a little silly.

On Gab, they have many ways you can react to a post. My favorite is a clown face, indicating that the post represents an example of our clown world.

Unz.com should add it as one of the reactions to “agree/disagree/etc.”

Project Veritas has proven that lots of lonely left-wing men in this country are on dating apps and can be cajoled into taking a pretty young girl (or gay male, natch) out, getting drunk, and blurting out any secret in a desperate attempt to get laid.

Tinder, Hinge, and Bumble are basically gold mines to James O’Keefe.

Just curious.

Speaking as an Australian, do all American schools really double as gigantic self-service restaurants (as the movies have given us to understand)?

Here in Australia, my school lunch would be a round of sandwiches, some biscuits (you would say coo0kies) and a couple of pieces of fruit, that my mother had sent me off with. And my kid’s lunch is no different today.

In particularly deprived neighbourhoods, some community groups will run “breakfast clubs” for kids coming from disfunctional homes, but lunch? You’re on your own!

It does seem strange, to some of us foreigners, that in the land of the free the government is expected to feed your children for you.

US schools are mini Fort Knoxes .
very odd for non-Americans. First time visitors are amazed by how large an industry security is everywhere.

Americans are also heavily of big boned North Central European stock. Such people are fatter than Italians in Europe too. The

As for walking more and driving less, that is certainly great for general and cardiovascular health. But it doesn’t have a big effect on calories burned in a day.

“A rule of thumb is that you burn about 100 calories per mile for a 180-pound person and 65 calories per mile for a 120-pound person.”

Nope. High protein/low carb diets consistently are the best for weight loss and health.

People at bacon and eggs for breakfast for thousands of years and were fine. We evolved to eat them.

Now go away, little liar. You have failed here.

The hypo was how to indirectly screen out nonwhites. A test of brute physical strength is one effective way to exclude Asians of all types and hispanics. Combined with a g-loaded test that excludes blacks, that’s a simple solution.

“ There have been numerous Americans of East Asian background who are elite athletes.”

“Numerous” is a vague term. What share of US born professionals athletes earning more than \$1 million are asian? I suspect way below population share.

South and SE Asians are exceptionally rare, but when you see NE Asians competitive with whites and blacks, it is generally sports requiring intelligence, grace, agility, and fast reaction time, not ones requiring a lot of brute strength.

“Obesity rates for adults….”

18 year old men bound for selective colleges are not usually obese, and even then mild obesity doesn’t hurt things like grip strength and shoulder press. AD asked how a college can legally screen for whites. A strength test would be an excellent way to screen out asians. If mestizos (white-mongoloid hybrids) are about half an SD lower than whites, pure Asians I think would be about a full SD lower.

I’d be interested in reading the full text of the South Asian-British comparison I cited. Other non-white caucasoids like Iranians seem to be plenty muscular, but South Asians seem to really tend to low muscle lol skinny and skinny-fat builds.

Blah blah blah another vegetarian or “ picky eater” freako. I eat about 14 eggs a week and my cholesterol is completely normal. And my blood pressure is usually around 105 108 when it gets taken at Dr visits.,

In fact every once in a while I have to mix up a solution of one part salt to two parts sugar dissolve it in hot water and gag it down because sometimes my blood pressure gets down so low I get dizzy.

I eat steak too. I live alone several months of the year. My favorite dinner is 2 👿 evil dangerous eggs scrambled in 👿 evil butter that causes heart attacks or something and with some salsa on the eggs. The salsa is partly for the taste and mostly because protein food turns to iron in the GI tract. But a little vitamin C in tomatoes activates the iron in the eggs. The entire eggs give you heart attacks was a total absolute fraud sponsored by Quaker Oats owned by General Mills. They were the lying frauds that told people to stop eating low calorie high protein 100 calorie apiece eggs for breakfast and start eating 500 calorie a serving carbs for breakfast.

And within 20 years everybody in America was fat because gullible brainwashed idiots believed the lies of experts.

And bacon a most delicious food. And before refrigeration kept a lot of people alive because the salt and nitrates preserved unsliced bacon for years. Ever read Huck Finn? He and Jim pretty much lived on a couple slabs of bacon and the abundant fish they caught. And used the bacon fat to fry the fish.

Bacon fat let me tell you about the wonderful ness of bacon fat in cooking. Every refrigerator should have a can of clarified bacon fat in it and a can to receive just cooked bacon fat. Buy a 1 pound can of coffee. When all the coffee is used wash and dry the can. Keep in fridge as it is gross and ugly sitting by the stove. Every time you cook bacon ( several times a week) cook the bacon over low medium heat for no burned bits.

When the bacon is done put the a sieve over the top and pour bacon fat into can. Put top on can and refrigerate. Clean sieve with paper towel and ammonia.

When the can is full you need to clarify it. Out can of bacon fat is a 250 degree oven till it gets liquidy but not hot. Prepare a big rectangle baking pan with ice cubes and cold water. Face averted pour a tablespoon of melted bacon fat on the ice water. If it doesn’t sputter pour the rest of the fat in the pan.

The bacon fat will rise to the top of the water and solidify. Use a slotted spatula or spoon to take it out and put back in the can. It’s ok to use. For frying every thing except eggs. Eggs should be fried only in butter Or if you want to make pie crust with it repeat 3 more times. the salt and bacon taste disappear after 3 repeats. You will have 2 cans in the fridge. One clarified bacon fat one of bacon fat waiting to be clarified. For oven baked chicken. Grease the pan with a lot of unclassified bacon fat and dab a little on top of each piece of chicken turns out delicious and crispy.,

Pie crust made with bacon fat clarified 4 times is the absolute best. Women used to make pies all the time. With evil 👿 😈 lard made from pig fat. But then the lying nutrition experts told everyone lard was poison or something. So along came that solidified vegetable oil stuff. That makes terrible pie crust. So women stopped making pies at home because the crust never turned out well.

Bacon is a wonderful addition to most food. A wonderful wonderful sandwich is evil evil 👿 bacon 👿 with honey or jam and whole grain toast or bread. Perfect for the kids to eat for breakfast in the car or waiting for the bus on school days. Also peanut butter on toast sandwiches eaten the car for breakfast. An ancient Alden family tradition. Or bacon and peanut butter sandwiches. High protein and most important kids love them and can fix themselves. I prefer bacon and honey to any kind of jam..

Whole grain health bread is twice the number of calories as plain old white bread which lying nutritionists and brain washed picky eaters despise. Because whole wheat whole grain bread has brown sugar and molasses added for color and to make it tast good. Read the label on whole grain bread. High calorie and full of ose or sugar ingredients

Add to salads noodles rice beans quiche bacon is wonderful. No fridge is complete without bacon.

As for my health; I’m old and my lungs heart and arteries are in great shape. My mom lived to 95. Two of her aunts lived to over 100 and they were born and grew up before modern medicine.
My blood pressure is low. Cancer, diabetes isn’t in my genes.,

So I’ll be eating eggs for fighting off getting fat and cooking bacon and all that health food.

All these food superstitions are created by opposition food companies. Don’t eat beef causes heart attacks cry the fish and chicken farmers. Chicken has salmonella and hormones and tastes weird because of the hormones. Fish has mercury or something cry the beef ranchers.
Eggs kill cry the cereal and flour manufacturers.

Shuddapa about eggs cry women who want to stay thin.

Only the naive and credulous brainwashed liberals believe the lies told by the nutritionists

Thanks; that’s a great story.

It brings together several woke themes:

***Attempted social engineering via the manipulation of absurdly trivial lifestyle factors, of which food/restaurants are tangible, and therefore easy to identify

***Appeals to ‘diversity’ even amongst fruits, likely based on the shadow-racist assumption that diverse students will be more likely to want to eat diverse fruits, and that white students will benefit by encountering such diversity

***Making a plan that looks great in theory, but requires increasingly hilarious flailing about to try to implement

***Enormous waste, which everyone in charge denies is happening

On the latter point, this program must really have been spectacularly wasteful. How much would starfruit, dragon fruit, and rambutans cost in the USA? I know dragon fruit — which is cheap here in Hong Kong — is extortionately expensive in the USA. I also find it hard to think of a fruit that American children would be more likely to disdain and discard . . . .

Americans are also heavily of big boned North Central European stock. Such people are fatter than Italians in Europe too.

Read what I wrote again. When “big boned North Central European stock” Americans move to Italy or South Korea, they often experience a dramatic weight loss – it’s because again, 1) the portion sizes are small and 2) they are not sedentary.

As for walking more and driving less, that is certainly great for general and cardiovascular health. But it doesn’t have a big effect on calories burned in a day.

“A rule of thumb is that you burn about 100 calories per mile for a 180-pound person and 65 calories per mile for a 120-pound person.”

Not being sedentary is not simply about walking a mile or two more per day, but it is about being off your behind constantly (e.g. walking to bus stops, walking up and down the stairs, etc.). Americans spend a lot far more time driving and sitting on chairs than Europeans and Asians.

Moreover, you underestimate how little caloric deficit per day you need to lose weight healthily and consistently, which is over months and years, not days and weeks. In your example, if the 180-pound person walks 3 miles per day (not from “purposeful” walking only, but from general non-sedentary activities as I described above), that’s 300 calories a day. After about two weeks, you will lose a pound. Within a year this will mean a drop of 26 pounds in weight (and this doesn’t count other factors such as increased cardiovascular health, increased metabolism, and a whole host of other benefits).

Americans who live in, say, Italy or Korea often end up losing large amounts of weight, because a) the portions are smaller and b) they are constantly on their feet, relying on buses, subway, and trains rather than driving everywhere and generally walk a whole lot more all the while eating very carb-heavy diet (pasta, rice).

Could not agree more, especially with point b.

The typical diet here in Hong Kong is indeed actually quite bad-carb heavy. Most people consume regular, substantial amounts of white rice, plus many eat horribly sweet, fluffy breads and pastries for breakfast.

But most people spend at least some time every day on their feet/walking, even though they try to avoid it. Not having a car makes a huge difference.

And it works; there just aren’t that many obese people here, even after decades of affluence and exposure to foods from around the world.

Yes, it is a Santa Monica Malibu Unified School District. But since they built Malibu High School the 2 school systems operate completely separately de facto if not de jure It’s been years since Malibu kids had a long slow bus ride to get to Santa Monica High.

Have you ever been within 500 miles of Santa Monica or Malibu in your life? Or you just a typical Man of UNZ who gets all his information from Wikipedia?

I’m very familiar with that program. Because I know people who live in Los Angeles whose kids attend Santa Monica schools because the parents work in Santa Monica. I’m also familiar with Santa Monica high school which about half Hispanic from the kids I see.

And it’s nit just the city of Santa Monica black city workers bus drivers and Hispanic restaurant and hotel workers who take advantage of that program.

A major industry in the city of Santa Monica is medicine. And all the medics can and do bring their kids to attend th public schools in Santa Monica. My attorney office is right next to the high school. So I’ve seen the kids who go to Santa Monica High And there are lots of attorneys and accountants in Santa Monica too. And they can and do bring their kids to school in Santa Monica..

And all the entertainment people. Santa Monica is chuck full of entertainment people who bring their kids to school in Santa Monica. I know a family who lives at the top of Bel Air who did that. South of Pico a few blocks east of the beach there are a couple miles new buildings full of entertainment agents producers lawyers managers. The town is full of entertainment offices.

It’s not just Santa Monica bus drivers and hotel maids kids who don’t live in Santa Monica who go to Santa Monica schools. It’s the kids of multimillionaire movie producers and plenty of Drs nurses lawyers agents and other high income Whites who can send their kids to Santa Monica schools because the parents work there.

The Men of UNZ the Men of UNZ What a crew of …,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

when you see NE Asians competitive with whites and blacks, it is generally sports requiring intelligence, grace, agility, and fast reaction time, not ones requiring a lot of brute strength.

The main advantage people of West African descent have over Europeans and Asians is short-distance running. So they excel in sports where fast running is in spurts (basketball, football, etc.). East Africans, especially highlanders, on the other hand, dominate long-distance running. But, mountain Europeans (e.g. Italians) and East Asians (Japanese and Koreans) occasionally do well in the Marathon and have medaled. Another advantage that West Africans have is that they tend to have longer limbs (which helps with heat loss due to higher body surface), so they tend to do well in sports such as boxing where reach is important.

Europeans are in-between East Asians and West Africans in terms of reach, short-distance running, etc. Coastal Northern Europeans and their colonial offshoots absolutely dominate swimming. While they have lower buoyancy than East Asians, they have longer limbs than the latter, so they are optimized for speed swimming.

East Asians do, indeed, have high reaction time and they also have shorter limbs, so they do well in sports that are extremely fast and require frequent body rotations and spinning (ping pong, gymnastics, Judo, wrestling, figure skating, etc.).

In terms of pure strength, people from the geographic belt formed by the Balkans to the Caucasus to Iran do well in the heavier weight categories while East Asians (especially the Chinese) dominate the lighter weight categories: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Olympic_medalists_in_weightlifting

By the way, this is also the same geographic belt + East Asia that excel in wrestling and Judo:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrestling_at_the_Summer_Olympics#All-time_medal_table_%E2%80%93_1896%E2%80%932020

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Olympic_medalists_in_judo

Wrestling and Judo athletes are probably the second overall strongest group of athletes pound for pound (the strongest being gymnasts) at the Olympics setting aside the weightlifters (who are more specialist strength athletes).

“Numerous” is a vague term. What share of US born professionals athletes earning more than \$1 million are asian? I suspect way below population share.

There have been numerous American Olympic medalists of East Asian background and only a handful of South Asians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Americans_in_sports). I supposed we can have different definitions of “elite,” but I meant in terms of athletic ability, not commercial viability.

As for their population share, East Asians are something like 2.5% or so of the U.S. population,
so given that small number, I think they are actually pretty well-represented.

All public schools have free lunch and if there is just one black or Hispanic kid often free breakfast. Many private schools have lunch sometimes included in the tuition sometimes bought.

It began during WW2. America had some very very deprived areas. Especially in the south east. Many malnutrition diseases. The army started drafting men. And claimed many were unfit because of life long poor nutrition. So the free school lunch program began.

It was always the custom in high schools to have school cafeterias that served cooked meals for lunch

It also gives employment to many. And keeps farmers solvent. It’s an American thing.

Women’s magazines often have articles on how to save money. At the top of the list is coffee. A pound of coffee is about \$7.00. And lasts one person 6 to 8 weeks. Buying medium sized coffee even at 7/11 5 days a week can cost \$15 a week and most Starbucks coffee is like \$25 a week. Constant advice and no one follows it.

Starbucks is fashionable among kids too. 9 and 10 year olds stop after school for cocoa in winter and slushees in warm weather.

OT. Hang in there Steve, there’s a way to go.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/used-car-market-cools-prices-plunge-year-low

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The cartel is made up of Big Ag > Big Chemical > Big Food > Big Advertising > Big Medicine > Big Pharma > Big Hospital/Insurance

With high carbs and glyphosate and vaccines they ensure that you and your loved ones are tortured and incapacitated by a dozen different autoimmune diseases and disabilities from diabetes to heart disease to chronic indigestion to back pain to flat cheekbones and a narrow dental arch, all of which make us 24/7 profit centers from the cradle to the grave.

Don’t eat goyslop. Refuse the vaccines.

I too went to a public elementary school in the 1960s (built in the 1930s and not updated at that time) that had no cafeteria and no auditorium. Most students (the school was small) including me walked home for lunch. Unlike most, my grandmother, not my mother, was waiting for me at lunchtime with soup, saltines, and tea. The handful of kids in each grade who could not go home ate in a former classroom with a few tables in it, also used for music lessons. They brought food from home. I would have hated to stay in the school building for that long every day. This city neighborhood was neither destitute nor affluent.

My 1930s-built public high school, which I’ve written about before, did have a cafeteria, but I never used it. I brought an apple and liked to go for a walk outside during lunch. I am grateful that it was the 1970s and we weren’t locked in the building, although I sensed at the time that that would change later.

On the latter point, this program must really have been spectacularly wasteful. How much would starfruit, dragon fruit, and rambutans cost in the USA?

That’s funny – I just ate some rambutan last evening. One of my kids spotted them at a local grocery store and wanted to try them. They were delicious – I think I’ll put a couple in a cocktail at some point. I made the mistake of eating the seeds though. The seeds were nutty and I liked them, but afterwards my wife read that they are not edible and maybe mildly toxic/narcotic.

Reach is not an especially important or decisive attribute in professional boxing. Look at the recent Usyk vs Joshua fight. Joshua has a 3 inch height advantage and a 4 inch reach advantage along with a 40 lb weight advantage but Usyk handled him easily (for the second time).

And need we point out that superchamps like Pacquiao and Duran were far from long-limbed and were champs in respectively eight and four weight divisions!!!

Given that it is such a complex sport, it is difficult to prioritize attributes, but certainly no one gets far in pro boxing unless he can hit hard. And he also has to be able to take a punch. Whether we classify boxers as “boxers” or “punchers”, there are no glass jawed champions.

In boxing too, cardio-vascular fitness and psychological resilience are absolutely vital.

The sport is racially quite mixed at the moment. The heavyweight champs have been White for 20 years now, while the Mexicans and Puerto Ricans are always prominent, but then there are also great current Asian champions like Nonito Donaire and Naoya Inoue of Japan.

Pro boxing is a very special sport. The primary attributes for success as a pro are no particular physical characteristics but rather a deep psychological hunger and a huge heart.

The only Moms who stay home any more are in welfare.

SAHMs are common among Trad Catholics and LDS.

So, do you like bacon?

That might have been true…. over twenty years ago.

And Buffalo HS Seniors miss an average of 37 class days and teachers miss an average of 18 class days—-Buffalo News Articles.

Buffalo Joe, does this mean that Buffalo, NY has succeeded in getting their school districts funded according to the number of students that show up in enrollment records vs. the number of student who actually walk through the classroom door?

I understand the teachers unions in California are working to get their schools funded according to the former method. I do not know whether they have succeeded (perhaps someone here does?), but it sounds like they may have looked to the schools in Buffalo for ideas regarding the best* taxpayer funding model.

*Best for the teachers, of course.

Sorry, I did not see this before I wrote my earlier reply:

Truth, that is sad. In Buffalo they take no attendance, but submit full vouchers for students in class.That is criminal.

You said it. I cannot think of a clearer way for the school districts to tell taxpayers, “We don’t give a toss about the kids.”

I understand the teachers’ unions in California are lobbying for non-attendance-based funding. To my mind, if they succeed, it means California’s taxpayers will put up with anything.

Pfeh, in my day we used to knock off at lunch time and go get hammered at the German bar down the street. They had a great juke box, full of Devo and the 52s. Then we’d come back for the afternoon session and argue about Plato and Faulkner while totally pickled. And yes, Polistra, we were busy banging supermodels while we did it. Wink.

Free breakfast and lunch is a win-win,
But let that be just the beginnin’—
Before they leave, give ’em their din-din!

Tulane may be the most popular out of state private college for Californians. I have relatives in New Orleans and have spent time close to Tulane. My impression is Tulane is a fun place to go to school. My impression is New Orleans is not a great place to live otherwise, if you care about things like crime, crumbling infrastructure, intolerable summers, getting things done (the city has a laid back, let the good times roll, attitude). But it’s a fun place for a three day weekend!

Moochelle’s school lunches were terrible and roundly mocked at the time.

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Personally, I would disfavor high-carb, high-calorie lunches because of the sleepiness effect it would have; but I cannot remember whether I suffered from that as a youth.

Thank you for posting that picture. I expect the “USA” lunch shown is not doing the students eating it any favours in terms of their classroom performance.

Eating large amounts of refined sugar is not a recipe for staying alert and receptive to what is going on around you. Of the five items on that lunch tray, three contain (or are likely to contain) refined sugar.

1) The cookies
2) The “cup o’fruit bits” (likely served in a heavy, sugar-laden syrup)
3) The breaded mystery chicken parts (which typically have sugar in both the breading *and* the sauce).

The Italians have the right idea: there is sugar in the grapes, but it is natural, not refined sugar, and therefore less likely to give the people who eat them the dreaded post-meal “sugar crash.”

Perhaps the solution for America’s school lunch problem is to have the Yanks start importing large numbers of Italian chefs?

When Anthony Bourdain went to Lyon with famed French chef Daniel Boulud, they visited an elementary school there to investigate the lunches there. The food was worthy of a Michelin-starred restaurant, which pissed off Bourdain immensely, given the state of American school lunches.

Thanks for the cite. As the article points out, escaping being poor or having bad parents is really hard because those poor or bad parents only think in the short term.

But where do the students go for high school. They all cannot go to Harvard Westlake.

when one does not understand that their high school experience from 50 years ago is meaningless in 2022, then one is going to make many mistakes. And an educated professional would know that an anecdote does not trump data.

As far as the free school lunch program has been around,

In 1967–68, the national enrollment in public and private schools was approximately 50.7 million, according to a survey of School Food Services in March 1968. About 36.8 million children, or 73 percent, were enrolled in schools participating in the National School Lunch Program with an actual average participation in the program of 18.9 million children, or about 37 percent of the national enrollment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_School_Lunch_Act#Participation_rates

Even their public colleges have become more competitive. U’s of both Texas and Florida both now highly rated and tougher to get into now for both out of state and in state. Read about U of F alums just assuming their kids could go to U of F but with tougher standards some of these kids are have to step down to FSU or others. To a lesser extent, Alabama draws from not just within Alabama now and is a tougher admit. Carry over from having a consistently excellent football team bringing a lot of notoriety to the school and raising the school generally. Coach Saban is the highest paid public employee of the state of AL, but money very well spent.

Why am I paying to feed rich people’s kids?

Because charity to only the poor kids would be “stigmatizing” and we can’t have that. It’s much better to waste money on everyone and bloat the government budget.

Cronic absenteeism is a big problem in Buffalo Public schools, both students and teachers.

What could be the reasons?

They just don’t care. And neither should anyone else.

But since no child can be left behind – even by choice – and since people aren’t allowed to live with the consequences of their own actions anymore, that’s all we do now is worry about other people’s business.

What an amazing fight that was.

This is totally a Men of Unz comment I am about to make, but I miss real boxing.

Yes, it’s still around, but it’s not like it was in 1985. MMA just isn’t the same.

Most MMA fans today will say that boxing is “boring”, but that’s kind of the point. There were rules and the rules made it better.

And don’t even get me started on how coarse it is for a society to allow women to fight publicly (even in boxing) and even worse, for men to cheer it on. That crap wasn’t going on in 1985.

Re Gorbachov, Yuri Bezemov explains all.

I went to college, but I don’t claim to be educated.

Pro tip: When you see somebody recounting an anecdote from his past, just maybe consider that he might be sharing it for comparison and entertainment, not as an argument to “trump” something.

You have a nice Aspergery day now, researching things like school lunch programs. 🙂

Yep. Probably the most famous first round in boxing.

Used to brown bag it to Sacred Heart Villa in Lewiston, NY through 5th grade. However, Friday pizza day from Truscello’s (at .75/slice) was a hafta have. .75 more got you an ice cream.

In HS we played euchre at lunch.

interesting writes:

Why am I paying to feed rich people’s kids?

Not just feeding. California specializes in emotional-hook social programs that have barely hidden corruption elements.

The value chain is from taxpayers through Sacramento and the Counties, Cities and numerous agencies, where eager recipient bureaucracies reallocate and extract.
Whatever is left may trickle down to the local level.
Then another layer of taking a cut.
A dollar in, and pennies out.

The percentage of kids who get free lunch is a Federal measure of how poor your school is, and the poorer your school, the more money you get.

I used to live in a super ZIP, and the schools there approved every application for free lunch. Hell, they didn’t even check if the student lived in the district much less his family income.

Public schools exist to benefit teachers and admin staff, and to indoctrinate students in the current wisdom. Any actual education is beside the point.

pyrrhus writes:

Yes, from what I have seen of school lunches, as a teacher, you couldn’t pay me to eat most of them…Tons of food going into the trash, I predict…

Tales from a bygone era, when schools had functional kitchens and not just steam tables for delivered mystery bags.

Elementary schools of my youth had decent food.
Junior high schools, similar to middle schools, had the worst food.
High schools also had decent food.

Among the best were the freshly baked rolls enticing and whetting appetites, not that growing kids needed much encouragement. Hot dogs, hamburgers, chef salads and other tasty items. Fish sticks every Friday with a little cup of tartar sauce. Chili, too.

The worst were the junior high meals like ‘tacos’, in a hotel pan swimming in orangeish grease. Aides would grasp a taco or two with serving tongs and have the bottom drop out. Next came what was called spinach, where there wasn’t enough vinegar to disguise, let alone improve, the taste.

Schools have offered lunch approximately forever, so that is not relevant. Breakfast is.

If your “wealthy, high-power-career, dual-income parents” have such a hard time feeding their own children in the morning before going off to their high-power jobs, then maybe they aren’t so “high-IQ” and maybe we don’t want to facilitate their reproduction.

As you say, though, if taxpayers want to pay for that, so be it. However, as Alden points out, it’s the people of the state of California who are subsidizing Malibu school meals, not the folks in Malibu alone.

Then again, you’ve made it clear that in your opinion I am just a troll, so you can just ignore this thought. I’m a troll who worked all kinds of jobs to pay for college and therefore had no debt, unlike your “natural conservative” at the “major public research university.” Of course, tuition had not yet risen to the absurd, disproportionate levels that is has since, so it was still possible to work one’s way through.

When I was in high school in the early 90’s we could leave campus for lunch. If you could get a ride, you could go anywhere in town. If you didn’t have a car, then walking across the street to McDonalds or some other nearby restaurant was the option. Once I was able to drive, I just went home. Occasionally I’d go to my grandparents house and my grandmother would feed me. I literally don’t think I ate lunch in the cafeteria one single time when I was in high school, honestly.

Now that I have a kid of my own in high school, there is no way no how that would ever happen. Not really sure why, honestly, except for a higher state of paternalism and the general society-wide infantilizing of the students. They are locked inside all day long.

Nonetheless, my anecdote: a local pizza restaurant in my home town had an all you could eat “Bunch of Lunch” buffet on weekdays w/ pizza, pasta, chicken wings, fried potatoes, all of it. My buddies and I couldn’t afford to go every day…. \$4.95 was a lot of money!… but we usually went once a week and gorged ourselves. We were football players, so during football season we would go on Thursdays when there wasn’t practice, during the rest of the year we would usually go on Fridays.

I have a distinct memory of being at a track meet on a Saturday in the spring and one of my buddies’ mom learning that we had gone to the buffet the day before. She just about took his head off for eating pizza on a Friday during lent. That was my first experience with catholic dietary practices and I had no idea why she was so mad at him.

I’m ordering a t-shirt with “The Men of Unz®”! Lol!

neither should anyone else.

With statistics like:

Buffalo HS Seniors miss an average of 37 class days and teachers miss an average of 18 class days—-Buffalo News Articles. That is more than seven weeks for the students and more than three weeks for the teachers.

we may be lucky to be ahead of Brazil and Mexico, let alone China, in a generation or two.

Comparing high school students to models and actresses just demonstrates the sexism of the original post. I guess Zoos has not read all of the discussion about young women being driven to self harm by unobtainable standards.

According to collegeresultdotorg, Georgia admits 53% of applicants with a mean SAT score of 1250.

The top majors are:
Finance 6.4%
Biology/biological sciences 5.7%
Psychology 4.9%
Marketing/marketing management 3.5%
Management information systems 3.2%

The last time I was in N.Y.C, which is my long-ago home town, I was struck by how few fat people there were.

You know, Aldey, it’s been a while since you’ve hit a MOU white man with a patented cuck-bomb. This would have been an excellent choice.

Seemed like every morning, it was a bowl of bland Quaker Oats, and a sour grapefruit.

Then under the Southern California sunshine, long walks or bicycle rides to some scary schoolroom.

For lunch it was mostly hard Roman Meal Bread sandwiches (peanut butter w/ lettuce), and fresh fruit.

Other kids would be getting soft Wonder Bread sandwiches (peanut butter w/ grape jelly), and Twinkies.

Many kids would get to line up for the government-issue comfort food.

Never once stepped foot in a K-12 school cafeteria.

Couldn’t understand why my mom didn’t fix “normal” school lunches, or give us some spare change once in a blue moon.

Now it’s clear though, why I was always able to clean the bullies’ clocks.

Thank you mom, for all those Spartan meals prepared with unconditional love.

Really do look forward to seeing you again someday, in that place they call Heaven.

Ok, I should have waited, this one would have made a better cuck-bomb. You still didn’t detonate it though, you must be waiting for the next, “oh, that little coquette was just waiting for the BBC!” thread. I cosign.

Reach is not an especially important or decisive attribute in professional boxing.

Holding other factors constant, boxers with greater wingspans have a significant advantage in boxing. Obviously, the reach deficit can be overcome with better speed, footwork/angling, and distance management, but to say that reach is not “an especially important” attribute in boxing is something only someone who’s never actually boxed would say.

If an opponent has a significant reach advantage and he knows how to manage his distance (which in boxing means that he has a good jab and knows how not to get pressured/cut off/cornered), it’s exceedingly difficult to engage that opponent without getting hit first or being jammed.

Look at the recent Usyk vs Joshua fight

You can find examples where physical attributes are overcome, but the law of the large numbers applies when you look at the sport in toto.

Given that it is such a complex sport, it is difficult to prioritize attributes, but certainly no one gets far in pro boxing unless he can hit hard. And he also has to be able to take a punch. Whether we classify boxers as “boxers” or “punchers”, there are no glass jawed champions.

Every single boxing coach I have ever worked with has said that you can teach to build punching power (with correct biomechanics, creating collisions and angles, e.g. check hook, and so forth), but “you can’t teach speed.” Durability is also something you can build. Road work builds cardio which helps with recovery from taking shots and building neck muscles helps a great deal with the ability to take shots. That said, yes, some people are born more brittle than others while others seem to have an inhuman ability to take shots (but even those athletes pay for it down the line – no one gets hit excessively and has a long career).

Pro boxing is a very special sport. The primary attributes for success as a pro are no particular physical characteristics but rather a deep psychological hunger and a huge heart.

Many sports, especially combat sports are like that, but it’s delusional to think that physical attributes are not salient.

In boxing, reach (actually wingspan) is quite important whereas in something like Shotokan Karate, reaction time is paramount.

Hearns got dumb and got sucked into a brawl with a phonebooth brawler in Hagler. That said, Hagler was known for his ability to cut off opponents and his grueling pace. He was a dominant champion for a reason (or two). And let’s not forget that he was a southpaw and could fight both sides (lefty-righty fights usually end up with a lot hand trapping with the leading hand, jabs are nullified, and power punches open up for both fighters, all of which aid someone with Hagler’s style).

When Sugar Ray Leonard fought Hagler, he gave up quite a bit of the share of the purse in return for fighting in a bigger ring that aided his mobility-based game and to avoid getting trapped by Hagler (even then, it was a pretty close-run thing).