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Last month I posted on a realistically alarmist new book (in French) by Duke professor Stephen Smith, who has made most of his career reporting on Africa for French publications:

The Rush to Europe: Young Africa on the way to the Old Continent

Now French supremo Emmanuel Macron has given an interview recommending Smith’s book on what Macron calls (in translation) Africa’s “bombshell” population growth.

Meanwhile, however, the New York Times is playing up leftist opposition to Macron, but the NYT article doesn’t touch the existential issue of African immigration:

Why the French Are Growing Angry With Emmanuel Macron
By ADAM NOSSITER APRIL 18, 2018

You see, in France at present, you will be astonished to learn, there are strikes. Obviously, nobody should spend one moment thinking about African population growth until there are no more strikes in France. When that day finally arrives, then the NYT might deign to admit you could discuss population growth in Africa and what it portends for France and the rest of Europe, but, until then, first things first!

Here’s Smith on what he calls Africa’s Scramble for Europe (a phrase perhaps invented by Ross Douthat or Noah Millman in 2015):

It’s important to note that Africa’s excessive fertility should not be a particularly difficult challenge for the world to humanely head off. Bangladesh, for instance, has gotten its population growth somewhat under control.

But a lot of Western philanthropic effort was focused on Bangladesh back in, say, the 1970s before racial attitudes had become quite so self-loathing.

The scary thing is the growing sacralization of blacks as holy beings who cannot be told to, say, leave Starbucks just because they didn’t pay.

Does concern over African overpopulation reflect “Fear of a Black Planet?”

Well, yeah, obviously, it does.

Everybody, including (and perhaps especially) blacks, should be concerned about black population growth. If the world gets on the stick and helps sub-Saharan Africa achieve what Bangladesh has achieved and thus in 2100 there are, say, only 2 billion instead of 4 billion blacks, my guess is that the 2 billion blacks would be grateful.

I wouldn’t be surprised if when Macron and Bill Gates get together, they talk about this in private. Deep down, Gates is an old-fashioned rich WASP population controller in the old Rockefeller/Bush mode. But in public, Gates has to talk about his various triple-bankshot plans for helping Africans ready themselves for climate change or via female empowerment or whatever. But how many in Africa get the message that Bill Gates, famous rich guy, would really like them to have fewer children?

What goes unsaid often goes unthought.

 
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  1. Even the most oblique reference to the African population explosion is completely verboten in polite circles in America. So my hat’s off to the French for at least being able to mention something like this. It’s going to affect us all before too long, unless we’re fortunate enough to die first, but meanwhile it’s too ‘useful’ to the Ruling Class in the USA to permit public discussion about it.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    Even the most oblique reference to the African population explosion is completely verboten in polite circles in America. So my hat’s off to the French for at least being able to mention something like this.
     
    The US was easier to roll, because slavery and the conquest of the natives started us out as multi-ethnic. Ergo "American" was multi-ethnic--even though the people who created the nation were not. From there it was just some verbal jousting and propaganda to get to "a nation of immigrants" and the lie that if they handed you a passport you were "American".

    But, i am a bit perplexed why the Euros have been so easy to roll.

    The French seem to be quite proud of their country and really like their culture. What the heck is to prevent, a French politician from saying the obvious:

    "A nation's character is defined by who is in it. I was born in France, love France and want to live ... in France. And for France to be France, it needs to be full of actual French people. If we French want to live in France, immigration must end. Otherwise we'll simply have some lines on a map called 'France' but which is not France at all. That would be a great tragedy. Immigration must be stopped--now."
  2. Sightly related.

    Has Steve ever taken a gander at the main Nigerian message boards like Nairaland? The ‘Travel’ (Emigration) section is fantastic. (Even Estonia isn’t safe. http://www.nairaland.com/1972275/lets-talk-estonia/1) Treads after threads on visa applications and gaming the system. Here is the first and second post of a new thread on Germany.

    OP
    There are threads for UK, Australian and Canadian immigrants, but none for Germany which is one of the top countries people immigrate to.

    If you are Nigerian immigrant in Germany, please do share your experiences on how you were able to Move to Germany, Getting Accommodation, how the system works there and any info for incoming migrants or people who want to immigrate.

    Post 1
    Hi. I’m living in Germany through family reunion, my hubby is a German.

    Immigrating to Germany is not easy anymore like in the past 20 years. Basically I can not recommend to seek asylum here nowadays cause things have changed. Most Nigerian asylum seekers get rejection quickly, sometimes only months after arrival. Secondly asylum seekers are not allowed to work at the beginning for six months. You will also need working permit, without it it’s hard to find a job. If you want to go for black job, better try bigger cities.

    Try an come as student, it makes your path smoother. Learn German, it will help to find a job and make friends.

    Try and mix with Germans, don’t stay in the Nigerian community only. It will help you to integrate, maybe your new friends will help you to get a job and know the system.

    Qualified workers are also able to apply for blue card (residence and working permit).

    Good luck

    It’s the casualness with which she talks about claiming asylum to response to a question asking about emigrating to Germany and how the next easiest is now coming as a student that stuns me. She doesn’t consider for a second the implications of asylum fraud.

    http://www.nairaland.com/4447520/living-germany-life-german-immigrant

    http://www.nairaland.com/travel

    There’s also a great post from the thread on Sweden.

    Greetings!

    I’m an Afroswede, born and raised in Sweden. Life in sweden is okay, but not much more than that. Its true there is some sense of security system or “safety net” that prevents people to fall below a sertain standard of living. However this welfare system is not what it used to be and the general politics in this century are moving more and more towards lower taxes and a free market so the redistributing of wealth and founding of social institutions for everybody such as youth centres and cheap health care are fading. Sweden still has a well developed school system which is free for all citisens but the gap between rich and poor is now widening and schools in areas with a more wealthy population tend to have better standards and resources both in forms of materials and employees.

    One very important thing to be aware of in this country is that the distribution of wealt can generally be matched with a scale of etnicity, or skincolor. The darker skin you have in Sweden, the lower paid is your job. Sweden do not register its citisens etnicity so the istitutional racism is hard to prove with the help of numbers since there is almost no statistics on it, it falls below the radar. Minority goups in this society is heavily marginalised and have no prominent voice in media or in politics. The few “brown” peolpe in the parliament have gone so far by downplaying their own heritage and by pushing for “stricter laws and regulations towards immigrants”.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    I clicked through to Nairaland and immediately got an ad 'Interested in giving birth in the USA?'.

    Our medical group provides a birth program in El Paso, Texas, for international patients who wish to receive a better medical service and obtain U.S. Citizenship for their baby. With over eighteen years of experience, our team of certified medical doctors has provided top quality maternity care for women from all over the world.

     

    http://doctoresparati.com/home.html

    Enjoy!

    , @JollyOldSoul
    Sounds like a great site for various asylum and immigration agencies to do opposition research and discover the latest methods invaders are using to game the system. Also sounds like a great place for agents provocateurs.
    , @Almost Missouri
    In the 1960s, at the dawn of the "civil rights movement" there was a popular assumption, implicit and explicit, that the social distortions the movement created (affirmative action, set asides, college degrees in fake subjects, etc.) were just temporary until blacks make up the "lost" distance and so became equal to everyone else. As everyone now knows, this hasn't happened. Neither have black outcomes become equal, nor have the distortions been temporary, even though the Supreme Court semi-declared that 2028 wold be the end of affirmative action. It not only hasn't happened, it keeps growing: e.g., as of last week, business owners must allow blacks--and only blacks--to loiter at will in their establishments.

    It not only hasn't happened and not only keeps growing but it has jumped over borders, even non-contiguous borders widely separated by oceans.

    It was kinda plausible to talk about "proving racism" and such as a legal cause in mid-to-late 20th century US where there was an active project to uplift the slave-descended part of the population. But that upliftment has done all the uplifting it's gonna do, and in any case it was predicated on the upliftee population having been formerly subject to a particular hardship by the presently uplifting authority. Now though, the language and (dubious) logic of civil rights-ism has leapt free of the circumstances where it was arguably plausible over to wildly different circumstances where they make no sense.

    Nowadays, foreigners in country A openly conspire in how to abuse legal concepts from circumstances in country B to exploit the society in country C. Admittedly, country C is partly to blame for needlessly importing dubious legal concepts from country B that don't apply to it. And country B is partly to blame for aggressively exporting it's "culture". But the conspirators in country A bear guilt as well.

    If Europe (country C) has any sense they will cease the mindless mimicry of the US's (country B's) least successful (if arguably necessary) public policy überproject and be content with their own laws for their own people based on their own customs and their own history.

    I too once assumed that the obvious absurdities of the affirmative action-state would be a temporary injustice which would remedy, however imperfectly, a past injustice, however unrelated. It is now long apparent, though, that the current injustice will continue to grow, metastasize and spread--even unto the whole world, even while the past injustice slips further and further away in distance and relevance.

    , @Seth Largo
    I see a vast difference between the first and the second post, and it's the difference between first and second generation immigrants. First = assimilate and work hard. Second = sudden jihad syndrome.
    , @Bies Podkrakowski
    Great find. Thanks. I will use it as an educational aid.
  3. Unions aren’t very powerful in the US today so their ability to cause national disruption is limited. A local transit district might go on strike and mess up the commute for a single metro area but in European countries the rail systems are national and carry a lot more of the freight than in the US so strikes by rail unions do have a large economic impact.

    Macron is, to his credit, trying to reform the featherbedding and other practices unions engage in and, these being both unions and French, they are resisting mightily. Imagine if Trump tried to replace Federal Civil Service pensions with 401K and IRA plans!

    Yes the African population bomb looms large but, for now, it is over the horizon and the French rail strike is hear and now. Macron is at least aware of it and, if he wants to keeps his precious EU project together he knows stopping immigration is a quid pro quo for further integration in Europe. You can’t keep on degrading ‘citizenship’ without degrading democracy and allowing people from anywhere to just show up, move in and start voting makes Democracy meaningless.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    The federal civil service retirement system combines the Thrift Savings Plan with a relatively small pension (FERS) and social security. The much more lucrative CSRS was eliminated and federal employees began making social security contributions in the mid-80s.

    The cheminot system in France is badly in need of reform (e.g., guaranteed lifetime employment and retirement as young as 52). To his credit, Macron confronted some striking railway workers yesterday.
    , @J.Ross

    allowing people from anywhere to just show up, move in and start voting makes Democracy meaningless.
     
    That's why they're doing it.
  4. Doesn’t mention immigration from Africa to Asia.

    • Replies: @Anon
    https://www.amren.com/news/2018/04/in-homogeneous-japan-an-african-born-university-president/

    I think Japan will be next.

    Japanese got a black Miss Japan. Japan's top runner is a black.

    Because blacks are more athletic, even a tiny number in Japan means they will take over sports. And then, Japanese will look up to blacks as their idolic national heroes. And then, Japan will be showered with praise by the West. And then other Asian nations will imitate because they live for approval from the superior West.

    Jungaru Feebah was a big thing in Japan and even awarded with literary prize.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Yamada

    According to Linh Dinh, Vietnam got an African to run for Vietnam. And South Korea got an Kenyan to run in Olympics.
    So, it means blacks will become idols there too as in the West, all the more so since stuff like spread of K-pop feminize native men to be cucks.

    China might withstand it, like Russia may be the only white nation left in the long run.

  5. • Replies: @AndrewR
    The comments on there sound more like Stormfront than Cuckbart.
    , @Romanian
    This triggered me so badly.

    Asserting he set out to provide a “dispassionate” expert view on how Africa’s demographic explosion will affect Europe, Smith in his book has outlined a number of different scenarios he believes could emerge from the situation.

    “The most optimistic” of these — according to Le Figaro — is “Eurafrica”, which would see mass migration create a ‘welcoming’, multicultural Europe, which “would fully embrace being a ‘mixed-race land of immigration and interbreeding’”.

    This scenario would see the end of welfare states in Europe however, Smith said, pointing to the incompatibility of large-scale immigration and generous social programmes.

    Another possible scenario, ‘Fortress Europe’, is one which involves “a battle generally considered unwinnable, or even shameful” but which Smith points to as the case which strongly “has its reasons and its chances to succeed”
     
  6. Trouble is, Macron is all talk on the issue of African invasion/immigration to France. I’m writing this from Brittany in France. One sees more and more Africans here and Brittany is the area with the lowest non-native population. In Paris, the number of Africans is noticeably greater throughout the city than when my family first moved there in 2011. I know of no plan on the part of the Macron government to try and cut the number of African invaders/immigrants.

    • Replies: @Mishra
    I've visited France and Paris in particular many times over the past few decades. Each time it's worse than the previous visit. To remember Paris from the 1980s almost makes me want to cry.

    It was so civilized, so chic, so sophisticated, and so clean. Paris now is all of these things, but only in pockets. In the 1980s I covered the whole city and never found a bad spot. My grandfather joked: "Normally one doesn't seek them out."

    But to a young American, used as I was to the wrecks our own old cities had become, it was like a miracle. Now large parts of it are beginning to resemble the third world. Much as many of our own cities do.

    , @Altai
    Macron and his handlers are hoping that by talking frankly about issues they can temper some of the concern, that's all. It's psychological manipulation. And even though the French electorate knows this, it still has some effect. Propaganda works.
    , @Anon
    You really want to get freaked out, recall Steve's sickle cell analysis of babies born in Paris....yikes!
  7. @unit472
    Unions aren't very powerful in the US today so their ability to cause national disruption is limited. A local transit district might go on strike and mess up the commute for a single metro area but in European countries the rail systems are national and carry a lot more of the freight than in the US so strikes by rail unions do have a large economic impact.

    Macron is, to his credit, trying to reform the featherbedding and other practices unions engage in and, these being both unions and French, they are resisting mightily. Imagine if Trump tried to replace Federal Civil Service pensions with 401K and IRA plans!

    Yes the African population bomb looms large but, for now, it is over the horizon and the French rail strike is hear and now. Macron is at least aware of it and, if he wants to keeps his precious EU project together he knows stopping immigration is a quid pro quo for further integration in Europe. You can't keep on degrading 'citizenship' without degrading democracy and allowing people from anywhere to just show up, move in and start voting makes Democracy meaningless.

    The federal civil service retirement system combines the Thrift Savings Plan with a relatively small pension (FERS) and social security. The much more lucrative CSRS was eliminated and federal employees began making social security contributions in the mid-80s.

    The cheminot system in France is badly in need of reform (e.g., guaranteed lifetime employment and retirement as young as 52). To his credit, Macron confronted some striking railway workers yesterday.

  8. If Germany and Japan won WWII Europe would be white in 2118. Instead they lost so Europe will be Black and America will be Mestizo. Remember children: the good guys won.

    • Replies: @JollyOldSoul
    The nerve all of those Poles and Frenchmen and Brits must have had not to realize that the Germans were really just dropping Bombs of Love.
    , @Whiskey
    No, if anything if Japan and the Nazis had won then Europe and America would have been filled with Africans even sooner.

    Both practiced in effect mass industrial slavery, with slaves essentially worked to death. That was the basis for their empire, and the basic strategy: invade other peoples, and enslave them, carry them off and make them work as slaves, was as old as Sargon and the empire he created what, 5,000 years ago?

    The constant problem with that is that slaves under those conditions at least for White people don't reproduce. The Roman Empire fell because most of it was slave and the slaves did not fight and were constantly dying off. Since Hitler wanted to enslave pretty much every non German, the logical conclusion would have been a mass die off in the 1950s and the mass importation of African workers who DON'T die off under slavery but rather reproduce like crazy (the African Master Race secret weapon is their astonishing fertility under conditions that crater other people's fertility) and very quickly over-run their German masters.

    The War, and WWI, and the pill, and the condom, and rising female autonomy all cratered European fertility which had constant falls (the Dark Ages, the Late Roman Republic through Empire, the 1300s Black Death and afterwards) more than expansion.

    And lets face it, given White female supremacy through their commercial power: women make or influence 85% of consumer purchases, what women want is what they get. If Immavaders all looked like young Salma Hayeks or Sofia Vergaras, there would be border walls and navies to keep them out. But since they mostly look like Seal, well for every Seal there's a Heidi Klum.

    Look at the swagger and domination of Eastern European men -- and the violence, lack of consumerism, and repression of women. THAT is the only formula that works to keep Africans from being sacralized (lets get real and say what it is -- tingle generators for the Angela Merkels of the world which is why they are "sacred" -- does anyone think Chucky Schumer or Antonio Villaraigosa really think Africans are "sacred?")
    , @silviosilver

    If Germany and Japan won WWII Europe would be white in 2118.
     
    Not necessarily. Let's say Germany won and Hitler died in 1965 or something. Who's to say that Germany would not then have gone through a similar fit of remorse to the one it went through, with social concerns taking on a distinctive 'new left' tinge? In that scenario, Germany could have dewhitened even more quickly.
  9. I wouldn’t expect collective gratitude from 2 billion people, Steve. Not toward those of us in the northern hemisphere, anyway.

  10. Zut alors! La France en greve. Plus ca change….

  11. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @Robert Hume
    Doesn’t mention immigration from Africa to Asia.

    https://www.amren.com/news/2018/04/in-homogeneous-japan-an-african-born-university-president/

    I think Japan will be next.

    Japanese got a black Miss Japan. Japan’s top runner is a black.

    Because blacks are more athletic, even a tiny number in Japan means they will take over sports. And then, Japanese will look up to blacks as their idolic national heroes. And then, Japan will be showered with praise by the West. And then other Asian nations will imitate because they live for approval from the superior West.

    Jungaru Feebah was a big thing in Japan and even awarded with literary prize.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Yamada

    According to Linh Dinh, Vietnam got an African to run for Vietnam. And South Korea got an Kenyan to run in Olympics.
    So, it means blacks will become idols there too as in the West, all the more so since stuff like spread of K-pop feminize native men to be cucks.

    China might withstand it, like Russia may be the only white nation left in the long run.

    • Replies: @Altai
    Russian cities may well not be very white but rather central Asian in character. (Or if, very Caucasian and not very Russian or Ukrainian.)

    Though they've had their power put in check from the height of their looting in the late 90s the Russian business class is very spiv-like and much like the Anglosphere rather like an immigrant economy ponzi scheme.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVaqcE1NlU8

    This particular documentary deals with Krygz but the same could apply to Uzbeks etc. And then you've got all the North Caucuses people who Russian insists upon hanging onto and so can migrate freely.

    It wasn't communism that brought all these people to Russia, it was capitalism.
    , @TelfoedJohn
    Some Japanese athletes can beat the Africans on long distance: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-athletics-boston-kawauchi/athletics-amateur-kawauchi-takes-alternative-route-to-boston-glory-idUSKBN1HO0VB

    And one Chinese can go sub-10 seconds on the 100m:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_Bingtian
    , @fnn
    Basketball has been very popular in China for several decades, but the people at the top in China don't seem amenable to Africanization. Obviously the ruling elites in China are quite different from those in the West.
    , @Pericles
    Black mercenaries competing for various nations in track and field is getting ridiculous. You didn't even mention Qatar or Turkey.

    Sweden, of course, is proudly pushing forth these more-authentic-than-you New Swedes nowadays, either home grown or imported, like 100% authentic Swedes Meraf Bahta and Abeba Aregawi, but the first ones I can remember doing this was actually Denmark and Wilson Kipketer, a middle distance runner who won many medals for his country (though he for some reason now lives in Monaco).

    , @Thirdeye
    Not a chance. The Japanese have ethnicity and nationality completely bound together. Korean communities that have been in Japan for generations are not regarded as fully Japanese. Japan hosts migrants from Indonesia and southeast Asia but permanent residency is very difficult to obtain. About the only way for a gaijin to become a permanent resident is to marry in. Japan practices a right-of-return for ethnic Japanese no matter how many generations separated from Japan they are.
  12. I wouldn’t be surprised if when Macron and Bill Gates get together, they talk about this in private. Deep down, Gates is an old-fashioned rich WASP population controller in the old Rockefeller/Bush mode.

    The Gates funded center at Johns Hopkins is named The Bill Melinda Gates Institute for Population and Reproductive Health.

    That’s unusual these days.

    Unlike in the 1960s and 1970s, when the population explosion was what concerned left liberals busied themselves with when talking about issues facing poor countries, explicit mention of population studies alongside contraception is now taboo. On the left, this is because it is no longer pc for rich white Western nations to dictate to poor, non-white nations about population. That’s practically eugenics. On the religious right, funding of reproductive health/fertility clinics is taboo.

    But I’m quite sure that Bill and Melinda Gates, who grew up in that earlier time, keep population growth very much in mind, even as they go about funding “health initiatives” in the Third World.

    • Replies: @James Kabala
    The Gateses are indeed pretty open about their love of contraception. Not as much as Warren Buffett, though, who last I heard intended to leave his entire fortune to population control groups. Ted Turner was also an enthusiast, but we never hear much from him lately. (Kind of surprising in view of how loud and brash he was once was. You would barely know he is still alive.)
    , @cynthia curran
    There is truth about what you say about both the left and right. Pat Buchanan and Laura Ingrham are good on illegal immigration but because their both devoted Catholics they opposed any birth control as abortion.
  13. Another interesting WaPo article.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/world/too-many-men/?utm_term=.4742904645f9

    India and China are desperately short of young females. Now I realize that, Bill DeBlasio aside, most non African men do not find African women at the pinnacle of their ‘desire’ list but for those many millions of Indian and Chinese men an African wife might be better than none at all. Not only would exporting African females to Asia reduce Africa’s population explosion it would also reduce the migrant pressure on Europe as the African woman’s relatives might go to where they have connections.

    • Replies: @Altai
    A similar situation has occurred in some rural areas without a gender ratio created by sex-selection but by emigration.

    In rural South Korea and the Faroe Islands young farmers seek wives from South East Asia.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/go-north-young-woman-men-remote-faroe-islands-importing-asian-brides-address-falling-birth-rate

    https://www.economist.com/news/asia/21602761-korean-men-are-marrying-foreigners-more-choice-necessity-farmed-out
    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    If anything, the Chinese have been more enthusiastic about kicking the Africans out of places like Guangzhou, so no.

    On the other hand, a good plan would be for China to ship their surplus males to work in Africa, where they already have any ever-growing presence. The surplus males can marry Africans, but they can’t bring their wives or offspring back to China. This would be a win-win. China solves its surplus male population problem, and the Africans get a small IQ boost in their gene pool.

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    I like that the issue is presented not as "too few women", but as "too many men".

    "India and China are desperately short of young females."

    I just can't see Indians importing African women. What caste would they be, for starters?
    , @songbird
    From what I've heard, in China, the male-female sex imbalance doesn't really exist at the urban level. That makes it a much more controllable problem, IMO.
  14. @Diversity Heretic
    Trouble is, Macron is all talk on the issue of African invasion/immigration to France. I'm writing this from Brittany in France. One sees more and more Africans here and Brittany is the area with the lowest non-native population. In Paris, the number of Africans is noticeably greater throughout the city than when my family first moved there in 2011. I know of no plan on the part of the Macron government to try and cut the number of African invaders/immigrants.

    I’ve visited France and Paris in particular many times over the past few decades. Each time it’s worse than the previous visit. To remember Paris from the 1980s almost makes me want to cry.

    It was so civilized, so chic, so sophisticated, and so clean. Paris now is all of these things, but only in pockets. In the 1980s I covered the whole city and never found a bad spot. My grandfather joked: “Normally one doesn’t seek them out.”

    But to a young American, used as I was to the wrecks our own old cities had become, it was like a miracle. Now large parts of it are beginning to resemble the third world. Much as many of our own cities do.

  15. @Diversity Heretic
    Trouble is, Macron is all talk on the issue of African invasion/immigration to France. I'm writing this from Brittany in France. One sees more and more Africans here and Brittany is the area with the lowest non-native population. In Paris, the number of Africans is noticeably greater throughout the city than when my family first moved there in 2011. I know of no plan on the part of the Macron government to try and cut the number of African invaders/immigrants.

    Macron and his handlers are hoping that by talking frankly about issues they can temper some of the concern, that’s all. It’s psychological manipulation. And even though the French electorate knows this, it still has some effect. Propaganda works.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    That's right. It's just talk. We've been seeing this for decades. Talk right and legislate left. Unfortunately voters always fall for it.
  16. @Anon
    https://www.amren.com/news/2018/04/in-homogeneous-japan-an-african-born-university-president/

    I think Japan will be next.

    Japanese got a black Miss Japan. Japan's top runner is a black.

    Because blacks are more athletic, even a tiny number in Japan means they will take over sports. And then, Japanese will look up to blacks as their idolic national heroes. And then, Japan will be showered with praise by the West. And then other Asian nations will imitate because they live for approval from the superior West.

    Jungaru Feebah was a big thing in Japan and even awarded with literary prize.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Yamada

    According to Linh Dinh, Vietnam got an African to run for Vietnam. And South Korea got an Kenyan to run in Olympics.
    So, it means blacks will become idols there too as in the West, all the more so since stuff like spread of K-pop feminize native men to be cucks.

    China might withstand it, like Russia may be the only white nation left in the long run.

    Russian cities may well not be very white but rather central Asian in character. (Or if, very Caucasian and not very Russian or Ukrainian.)

    Though they’ve had their power put in check from the height of their looting in the late 90s the Russian business class is very spiv-like and much like the Anglosphere rather like an immigrant economy ponzi scheme.

    This particular documentary deals with Krygz but the same could apply to Uzbeks etc. And then you’ve got all the North Caucuses people who Russian insists upon hanging onto and so can migrate freely.

    It wasn’t communism that brought all these people to Russia, it was capitalism.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    It wasn’t communism that brought all these people to Russia, it was capitalism.

    No, it was good old-fashioned imperialism. The Russians absorbed lots of Central Asia types by conquering those areas in the 17th-19th centuries. Russians and Tatars have been mixing for centuries. "White nationalism" has never been particularly attractive to most Russians because traditionally Russian identity was tied to religion and language, not race. Blacks are generally beyond the pale, but no one bats an eye at a Russian having distinctly Asian features.
  17. @unit472
    Another interesting WaPo article.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/world/too-many-men/?utm_term=.4742904645f9

    India and China are desperately short of young females. Now I realize that, Bill DeBlasio aside, most non African men do not find African women at the pinnacle of their 'desire' list but for those many millions of Indian and Chinese men an African wife might be better than none at all. Not only would exporting African females to Asia reduce Africa's population explosion it would also reduce the migrant pressure on Europe as the African woman's relatives might go to where they have connections.

    A similar situation has occurred in some rural areas without a gender ratio created by sex-selection but by emigration.

    In rural South Korea and the Faroe Islands young farmers seek wives from South East Asia.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/go-north-young-woman-men-remote-faroe-islands-importing-asian-brides-address-falling-birth-rate

    https://www.economist.com/news/asia/21602761-korean-men-are-marrying-foreigners-more-choice-necessity-farmed-out

  18. I think some of the deliberate ignorance on this issue is because it’s where the twin leftist religions of climate change and diversity uber alles clash. Africa is going to be the source of substantially more carbon emissions and environmental issues as it develops and gets more crowded, but bringing that up looks neo-colonialist. Similarly, the idea of just letting lots of them into Europe of the US is bad because the lifestyle in the West on a per-capita basis is a lot worse for the environment as well.

  19. @Anon
    https://www.amren.com/news/2018/04/in-homogeneous-japan-an-african-born-university-president/

    I think Japan will be next.

    Japanese got a black Miss Japan. Japan's top runner is a black.

    Because blacks are more athletic, even a tiny number in Japan means they will take over sports. And then, Japanese will look up to blacks as their idolic national heroes. And then, Japan will be showered with praise by the West. And then other Asian nations will imitate because they live for approval from the superior West.

    Jungaru Feebah was a big thing in Japan and even awarded with literary prize.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Yamada

    According to Linh Dinh, Vietnam got an African to run for Vietnam. And South Korea got an Kenyan to run in Olympics.
    So, it means blacks will become idols there too as in the West, all the more so since stuff like spread of K-pop feminize native men to be cucks.

    China might withstand it, like Russia may be the only white nation left in the long run.

    • Replies: @Return of Shawn
    The Chinese will be genetically engineering sprinters soon. World dynamics hinge on who makes a serious effort in eugenics/genetic engineering. All indicators point to China and N.E. Asian countries in general.
    , @songbird
    I've wondered if the Boston Marathon result, both for the men's race and the women's race, was affected by the weather, both the cold and the wet. Sort of like how certain race horses are said to be mudders, able to run in wet conditions.

    I'm not sure about the heritage of the women's winner. Possibly Southern European, or possibly mixed, but she did not look very black. First American woman to win Boston in a very long time. probably not a coincidence that it was pouring rain and cold.
  20. Anonymous[817] • Disclaimer says:

    No.

    In today’s Economist-run world, the supreme goal of statesmanship and economic policy is to abolish all border controls – in western nations and only western nations, mind you – and encourage the immigration of each and every third worlder who wishes to settle in the west.

    The ‘theory’ – which is absolute and complete trash, by the way, goes like this – ‘More warm bodies per square inch crammed into western nations = ‘More wealth’.

    Thus hath The Economist spoken – and thus does the western politician do.

  21. @Diversity Heretic
    Trouble is, Macron is all talk on the issue of African invasion/immigration to France. I'm writing this from Brittany in France. One sees more and more Africans here and Brittany is the area with the lowest non-native population. In Paris, the number of Africans is noticeably greater throughout the city than when my family first moved there in 2011. I know of no plan on the part of the Macron government to try and cut the number of African invaders/immigrants.

    You really want to get freaked out, recall Steve’s sickle cell analysis of babies born in Paris….yikes!

    • Replies: @Romanian

    You really want to get freaked out, recall Steve’s sickle cell analysis of babies born in Paris….yikes!
     
    Now updated for 2016!

    https://www.eurocanadian.ca/2017/12/africanization-of-france-in-2016.html

  22. I met a middle-aged guy from Congo yesterday who has lived in Europe for decades and is trying to set up an import business. He was telling me Europe is “done” in the sense that there are no good jobs any more for African immigrants and wages are so low he wouldn’t recommend any one with ambition move here. Wasn’t clear to me where he thinks life is better, I suppose the USA, so have fun with that. He was also telling me any African initiative in Africa gets squashed by Europeans. He used to export raw diamonds from Congo to Europe. He understands there would be more value added if he set up a workshop to do the diamond-cutting in Africa, but he claims the “Israelis” just kill any African foolish enough to take on the cartel.

    • Replies: @Lurker

    but he claims the “Israelis” just kill any African foolish enough to take on the cartel.
     
    Those damn Europeans.
  23. @Altai
    Russian cities may well not be very white but rather central Asian in character. (Or if, very Caucasian and not very Russian or Ukrainian.)

    Though they've had their power put in check from the height of their looting in the late 90s the Russian business class is very spiv-like and much like the Anglosphere rather like an immigrant economy ponzi scheme.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVaqcE1NlU8

    This particular documentary deals with Krygz but the same could apply to Uzbeks etc. And then you've got all the North Caucuses people who Russian insists upon hanging onto and so can migrate freely.

    It wasn't communism that brought all these people to Russia, it was capitalism.

    It wasn’t communism that brought all these people to Russia, it was capitalism.

    No, it was good old-fashioned imperialism. The Russians absorbed lots of Central Asia types by conquering those areas in the 17th-19th centuries. Russians and Tatars have been mixing for centuries. “White nationalism” has never been particularly attractive to most Russians because traditionally Russian identity was tied to religion and language, not race. Blacks are generally beyond the pale, but no one bats an eye at a Russian having distinctly Asian features.

    • Replies: @unit472
    I realize the ringleader was ultimately arrested and jailed over these videos but I would consider it more than 'batting an eye' over Asiatics in Russia.

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4fa_1434272687
    , @snorlax
    Don't sell your ancestors short, Pete.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mongol_and_Tatar_raids_against_Rus%27
    , @Altai
    The historical connections are important, but the current mass flow set-up is very clearly a post-Soviet phenomena. You're getting to the point of getting the Central Asians who can't speak Russian and who now never really have to.

    Perhaps Russia really was obliged to allow freedom of movement to ensure their dominant position in that sphere of influence and fend off China, but I can't help but feel it wasn't necessary and was just a sop to business or the scale of employment of them wouldn't have happened if a more reasonable business class was incharge. And once a large enough legal disapora establishes itself, on come the illegal immigrants to join it.

    , @Nigerian Nationalist
    Remind again who Pushkin's Great granddaddy is?

    World Cup is months away, we'll find out just how beyond the pale Blacks are...
  24. @Anon
    https://www.amren.com/news/2018/04/in-homogeneous-japan-an-african-born-university-president/

    I think Japan will be next.

    Japanese got a black Miss Japan. Japan's top runner is a black.

    Because blacks are more athletic, even a tiny number in Japan means they will take over sports. And then, Japanese will look up to blacks as their idolic national heroes. And then, Japan will be showered with praise by the West. And then other Asian nations will imitate because they live for approval from the superior West.

    Jungaru Feebah was a big thing in Japan and even awarded with literary prize.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Yamada

    According to Linh Dinh, Vietnam got an African to run for Vietnam. And South Korea got an Kenyan to run in Olympics.
    So, it means blacks will become idols there too as in the West, all the more so since stuff like spread of K-pop feminize native men to be cucks.

    China might withstand it, like Russia may be the only white nation left in the long run.

    Basketball has been very popular in China for several decades, but the people at the top in China don’t seem amenable to Africanization. Obviously the ruling elites in China are quite different from those in the West.

  25. @PiltdownMan

    I wouldn’t be surprised if when Macron and Bill Gates get together, they talk about this in private. Deep down, Gates is an old-fashioned rich WASP population controller in the old Rockefeller/Bush mode.
     
    The Gates funded center at Johns Hopkins is named The Bill Melinda Gates Institute for Population and Reproductive Health.

    That's unusual these days.

    Unlike in the 1960s and 1970s, when the population explosion was what concerned left liberals busied themselves with when talking about issues facing poor countries, explicit mention of population studies alongside contraception is now taboo. On the left, this is because it is no longer pc for rich white Western nations to dictate to poor, non-white nations about population. That's practically eugenics. On the religious right, funding of reproductive health/fertility clinics is taboo.

    But I'm quite sure that Bill and Melinda Gates, who grew up in that earlier time, keep population growth very much in mind, even as they go about funding "health initiatives" in the Third World.

    The Gateses are indeed pretty open about their love of contraception. Not as much as Warren Buffett, though, who last I heard intended to leave his entire fortune to population control groups. Ted Turner was also an enthusiast, but we never hear much from him lately. (Kind of surprising in view of how loud and brash he was once was. You would barely know he is still alive.)

    • Replies: @Pericles
    Isn't Buffett leaving his money to the Gates Foundation?
    , @PiltdownMan

    Ted Turner was also an enthusiast, but we never hear much from him lately. (Kind of surprising in view of how loud and brash he was once was. You would barely know he is still alive.)
     
    Maybe he's been busy?

    From Wikipedia:


    In a television interview with Piers Morgan on May 3, 2012, Turner said he had four girlfriends, which he acknowledged was complicated but nonetheless easier than being married.

     
    , @PV van der Byl
    And Buffett's sidekick, Charlie Munger, is a particularly great abortion enthusiast.
  26. @Peter Akuleyev
    It wasn’t communism that brought all these people to Russia, it was capitalism.

    No, it was good old-fashioned imperialism. The Russians absorbed lots of Central Asia types by conquering those areas in the 17th-19th centuries. Russians and Tatars have been mixing for centuries. "White nationalism" has never been particularly attractive to most Russians because traditionally Russian identity was tied to religion and language, not race. Blacks are generally beyond the pale, but no one bats an eye at a Russian having distinctly Asian features.

    I realize the ringleader was ultimately arrested and jailed over these videos but I would consider it more than ‘batting an eye’ over Asiatics in Russia.

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4fa_1434272687

  27. @Peter Akuleyev
    It wasn’t communism that brought all these people to Russia, it was capitalism.

    No, it was good old-fashioned imperialism. The Russians absorbed lots of Central Asia types by conquering those areas in the 17th-19th centuries. Russians and Tatars have been mixing for centuries. "White nationalism" has never been particularly attractive to most Russians because traditionally Russian identity was tied to religion and language, not race. Blacks are generally beyond the pale, but no one bats an eye at a Russian having distinctly Asian features.
  28. @Anon
    https://www.amren.com/news/2018/04/in-homogeneous-japan-an-african-born-university-president/

    I think Japan will be next.

    Japanese got a black Miss Japan. Japan's top runner is a black.

    Because blacks are more athletic, even a tiny number in Japan means they will take over sports. And then, Japanese will look up to blacks as their idolic national heroes. And then, Japan will be showered with praise by the West. And then other Asian nations will imitate because they live for approval from the superior West.

    Jungaru Feebah was a big thing in Japan and even awarded with literary prize.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Yamada

    According to Linh Dinh, Vietnam got an African to run for Vietnam. And South Korea got an Kenyan to run in Olympics.
    So, it means blacks will become idols there too as in the West, all the more so since stuff like spread of K-pop feminize native men to be cucks.

    China might withstand it, like Russia may be the only white nation left in the long run.

    Black mercenaries competing for various nations in track and field is getting ridiculous. You didn’t even mention Qatar or Turkey.

    Sweden, of course, is proudly pushing forth these more-authentic-than-you New Swedes nowadays, either home grown or imported, like 100% authentic Swedes Meraf Bahta and Abeba Aregawi, but the first ones I can remember doing this was actually Denmark and Wilson Kipketer, a middle distance runner who won many medals for his country (though he for some reason now lives in Monaco).

  29. @Altai
    Sightly related.

    Has Steve ever taken a gander at the main Nigerian message boards like Nairaland? The 'Travel' (Emigration) section is fantastic. (Even Estonia isn't safe. http://www.nairaland.com/1972275/lets-talk-estonia/1) Treads after threads on visa applications and gaming the system. Here is the first and second post of a new thread on Germany.


    OP
    There are threads for UK, Australian and Canadian immigrants, but none for Germany which is one of the top countries people immigrate to.

    If you are Nigerian immigrant in Germany, please do share your experiences on how you were able to Move to Germany, Getting Accommodation, how the system works there and any info for incoming migrants or people who want to immigrate.

    Post 1
    Hi. I'm living in Germany through family reunion, my hubby is a German.

    Immigrating to Germany is not easy anymore like in the past 20 years. Basically I can not recommend to seek asylum here nowadays cause things have changed. Most Nigerian asylum seekers get rejection quickly, sometimes only months after arrival. Secondly asylum seekers are not allowed to work at the beginning for six months. You will also need working permit, without it it's hard to find a job. If you want to go for black job, better try bigger cities.

    Try an come as student, it makes your path smoother. Learn German, it will help to find a job and make friends.

    Try and mix with Germans, don't stay in the Nigerian community only. It will help you to integrate, maybe your new friends will help you to get a job and know the system.

    Qualified workers are also able to apply for blue card (residence and working permit).

    Good luck
     

    It's the casualness with which she talks about claiming asylum to response to a question asking about emigrating to Germany and how the next easiest is now coming as a student that stuns me. She doesn't consider for a second the implications of asylum fraud.

    http://www.nairaland.com/4447520/living-germany-life-german-immigrant

    http://www.nairaland.com/travel

    There's also a great post from the thread on Sweden.


    Greetings!

    I'm an Afroswede, born and raised in Sweden. Life in sweden is okay, but not much more than that. Its true there is some sense of security system or "safety net" that prevents people to fall below a sertain standard of living. However this welfare system is not what it used to be and the general politics in this century are moving more and more towards lower taxes and a free market so the redistributing of wealth and founding of social institutions for everybody such as youth centres and cheap health care are fading. Sweden still has a well developed school system which is free for all citisens but the gap between rich and poor is now widening and schools in areas with a more wealthy population tend to have better standards and resources both in forms of materials and employees.

    One very important thing to be aware of in this country is that the distribution of wealt can generally be matched with a scale of etnicity, or skincolor. The darker skin you have in Sweden, the lower paid is your job. Sweden do not register its citisens etnicity so the istitutional racism is hard to prove with the help of numbers since there is almost no statistics on it, it falls below the radar. Minority goups in this society is heavily marginalised and have no prominent voice in media or in politics. The few "brown" peolpe in the parliament have gone so far by downplaying their own heritage and by pushing for "stricter laws and regulations towards immigrants".

    Sweden is one of those countries where you might live for 40 years or even be born in, and still not really feel "swedish". The perceprion of "swedishness" does not include anyone that is non-white, thats why, as for examle an African, many doors will be closed. Swedes still feel that blacks, arabs, asians or latinos is not a natural part of sweden. It does not matter if your family has livd here for generations, if you are black, your swedishness will be questioned and you will never be fully accepted as swedish as much as a white person with a "swedish-sounding" name or not even as much as an immigrant that is white.

    The grass is allways greener on the other side... If you come here you might find it an acceptable place to live if you master the language and manage to withstand the long dark cold winters. The nature is beautiful, the streets are much safer than UK or USA and as I said before the education system is really good and totally free. grin Its not easy in Sweden but its far from the worst places to live. Unfortunately the new government imposed fees for exchange students from outside EU so if you are not planning on becoming a citisen and just want to study i reccomend Germany. They still have a lot of schools with very low fees but with hight quality and you will find many masters programmes in english.
     

    I clicked through to Nairaland and immediately got an ad ‘Interested in giving birth in the USA?’.

    Our medical group provides a birth program in El Paso, Texas, for international patients who wish to receive a better medical service and obtain U.S. Citizenship for their baby. With over eighteen years of experience, our team of certified medical doctors has provided top quality maternity care for women from all over the world.

    http://doctoresparati.com/home.html

    Enjoy!

  30. @James Kabala
    The Gateses are indeed pretty open about their love of contraception. Not as much as Warren Buffett, though, who last I heard intended to leave his entire fortune to population control groups. Ted Turner was also an enthusiast, but we never hear much from him lately. (Kind of surprising in view of how loud and brash he was once was. You would barely know he is still alive.)

    Isn’t Buffett leaving his money to the Gates Foundation?

    • Replies: @James Kabala
    Maybe. If so, it is with the expectation that most of it will go to contraception. He already gives huge amounts to Planned Parenthood already.
  31. @James Kabala
    The Gateses are indeed pretty open about their love of contraception. Not as much as Warren Buffett, though, who last I heard intended to leave his entire fortune to population control groups. Ted Turner was also an enthusiast, but we never hear much from him lately. (Kind of surprising in view of how loud and brash he was once was. You would barely know he is still alive.)

    Ted Turner was also an enthusiast, but we never hear much from him lately. (Kind of surprising in view of how loud and brash he was once was. You would barely know he is still alive.)

    Maybe he’s been busy?

    From Wikipedia:


    In a television interview with Piers Morgan on May 3, 2012, Turner said he had four girlfriends, which he acknowledged was complicated but nonetheless easier than being married.

    • Replies: @Bill B.

    In a television interview with Piers Morgan on May 3, 2012, Turner said he had four girlfriends, which he acknowledged was complicated but nonetheless easier than being married.
     
    ...to Jane Fonda. Yes, I can understand that.
  32. @TelfoedJohn
    Some Japanese athletes can beat the Africans on long distance: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-athletics-boston-kawauchi/athletics-amateur-kawauchi-takes-alternative-route-to-boston-glory-idUSKBN1HO0VB

    And one Chinese can go sub-10 seconds on the 100m:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_Bingtian

    The Chinese will be genetically engineering sprinters soon. World dynamics hinge on who makes a serious effort in eugenics/genetic engineering. All indicators point to China and N.E. Asian countries in general.

    • Replies: @Return of Shawn
    I have heard that in India, nearly all parents would lighten their children's skin, if given the opportunity, although they would never admit it.
  33. @Peter Akuleyev
    It wasn’t communism that brought all these people to Russia, it was capitalism.

    No, it was good old-fashioned imperialism. The Russians absorbed lots of Central Asia types by conquering those areas in the 17th-19th centuries. Russians and Tatars have been mixing for centuries. "White nationalism" has never been particularly attractive to most Russians because traditionally Russian identity was tied to religion and language, not race. Blacks are generally beyond the pale, but no one bats an eye at a Russian having distinctly Asian features.

    The historical connections are important, but the current mass flow set-up is very clearly a post-Soviet phenomena. You’re getting to the point of getting the Central Asians who can’t speak Russian and who now never really have to.

    Perhaps Russia really was obliged to allow freedom of movement to ensure their dominant position in that sphere of influence and fend off China, but I can’t help but feel it wasn’t necessary and was just a sop to business or the scale of employment of them wouldn’t have happened if a more reasonable business class was incharge. And once a large enough legal disapora establishes itself, on come the illegal immigrants to join it.

  34. @Return of Shawn
    The Chinese will be genetically engineering sprinters soon. World dynamics hinge on who makes a serious effort in eugenics/genetic engineering. All indicators point to China and N.E. Asian countries in general.

    I have heard that in India, nearly all parents would lighten their children’s skin, if given the opportunity, although they would never admit it.

  35. This is a non-problem.

    We are rapidly approaching the point whereat it no longer makes any sense for anybody to emigrate, as the cost/benefit analysis does not support it. Why move to a foreign continent where conditions are no better when you can just stay where you already know the place and the people?

    Also, Africa’s projected population growth over the next century is completely fictitious. Africa’s population growth is entirely dependent on Western aid; and as the West will shortly no longer be able even to support itself, it surely will not support Africa as well. Those billions of Africans will never be born, so there is no need to worry about them.

    Finally, anybody who thinks that Africa will “develop” and stabilize into a high-income, high-education, low-fertility socioeconomic pattern needs to get real. Africa possesses neither the physical capital nor the human capital to do this. It has no access to credit, nothing to trade except depleting mineral reserves, and nothing to offer the rest of the world. If Africans in the West have not WASPified themselves in 500 years, it beggars belief to think that Africans in Africa will do so. Besides, the idea that the very poison which killed the West ought to be recommended to Africa as a cure for its particular “ills” is troubling and perverse. It is actually quite the other way around. The West needs to beef up its fertility and stop wasting its time with pointless “development” if it is to survive.

    The best, sanest, most successful, and most natural African policy is to simply forget about it, cut it off, consign it to terra incognita. There is absolutely nothing to be gained by meddling with it. We do not need Africa and we cannot help Africa. The time has come to just leave it be. Anything else is an ego trip.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Nigerian Nationalist
    Now, this is an attitude I can get behind.

    Your people's interference does more harm than good...look to your borders.
    , @Ed
    Amen.
    , @MBlanc46
    That’s harsh. But probably largely on point. I suppose that there’s a good chance that the Chinese will take Africa over and deal with it in their own way. Otherwise, let the big die-off happen and let the Africans go back to subsistence agriculture.
  36. @Altai
    Sightly related.

    Has Steve ever taken a gander at the main Nigerian message boards like Nairaland? The 'Travel' (Emigration) section is fantastic. (Even Estonia isn't safe. http://www.nairaland.com/1972275/lets-talk-estonia/1) Treads after threads on visa applications and gaming the system. Here is the first and second post of a new thread on Germany.


    OP
    There are threads for UK, Australian and Canadian immigrants, but none for Germany which is one of the top countries people immigrate to.

    If you are Nigerian immigrant in Germany, please do share your experiences on how you were able to Move to Germany, Getting Accommodation, how the system works there and any info for incoming migrants or people who want to immigrate.

    Post 1
    Hi. I'm living in Germany through family reunion, my hubby is a German.

    Immigrating to Germany is not easy anymore like in the past 20 years. Basically I can not recommend to seek asylum here nowadays cause things have changed. Most Nigerian asylum seekers get rejection quickly, sometimes only months after arrival. Secondly asylum seekers are not allowed to work at the beginning for six months. You will also need working permit, without it it's hard to find a job. If you want to go for black job, better try bigger cities.

    Try an come as student, it makes your path smoother. Learn German, it will help to find a job and make friends.

    Try and mix with Germans, don't stay in the Nigerian community only. It will help you to integrate, maybe your new friends will help you to get a job and know the system.

    Qualified workers are also able to apply for blue card (residence and working permit).

    Good luck
     

    It's the casualness with which she talks about claiming asylum to response to a question asking about emigrating to Germany and how the next easiest is now coming as a student that stuns me. She doesn't consider for a second the implications of asylum fraud.

    http://www.nairaland.com/4447520/living-germany-life-german-immigrant

    http://www.nairaland.com/travel

    There's also a great post from the thread on Sweden.


    Greetings!

    I'm an Afroswede, born and raised in Sweden. Life in sweden is okay, but not much more than that. Its true there is some sense of security system or "safety net" that prevents people to fall below a sertain standard of living. However this welfare system is not what it used to be and the general politics in this century are moving more and more towards lower taxes and a free market so the redistributing of wealth and founding of social institutions for everybody such as youth centres and cheap health care are fading. Sweden still has a well developed school system which is free for all citisens but the gap between rich and poor is now widening and schools in areas with a more wealthy population tend to have better standards and resources both in forms of materials and employees.

    One very important thing to be aware of in this country is that the distribution of wealt can generally be matched with a scale of etnicity, or skincolor. The darker skin you have in Sweden, the lower paid is your job. Sweden do not register its citisens etnicity so the istitutional racism is hard to prove with the help of numbers since there is almost no statistics on it, it falls below the radar. Minority goups in this society is heavily marginalised and have no prominent voice in media or in politics. The few "brown" peolpe in the parliament have gone so far by downplaying their own heritage and by pushing for "stricter laws and regulations towards immigrants".

    Sweden is one of those countries where you might live for 40 years or even be born in, and still not really feel "swedish". The perceprion of "swedishness" does not include anyone that is non-white, thats why, as for examle an African, many doors will be closed. Swedes still feel that blacks, arabs, asians or latinos is not a natural part of sweden. It does not matter if your family has livd here for generations, if you are black, your swedishness will be questioned and you will never be fully accepted as swedish as much as a white person with a "swedish-sounding" name or not even as much as an immigrant that is white.

    The grass is allways greener on the other side... If you come here you might find it an acceptable place to live if you master the language and manage to withstand the long dark cold winters. The nature is beautiful, the streets are much safer than UK or USA and as I said before the education system is really good and totally free. grin Its not easy in Sweden but its far from the worst places to live. Unfortunately the new government imposed fees for exchange students from outside EU so if you are not planning on becoming a citisen and just want to study i reccomend Germany. They still have a lot of schools with very low fees but with hight quality and you will find many masters programmes in english.
     

    Sounds like a great site for various asylum and immigration agencies to do opposition research and discover the latest methods invaders are using to game the system. Also sounds like a great place for agents provocateurs.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    The problem is that in Western societies the people who work for asylum and immigration agencies are in cahoots with the system-gaming invaders.
    , @Altai
    I'm sure they already do. It's also pretty obvious when you see patterns in case loads. Every assessor in the West knows almost all of them are lying. It's just either difficult to prove it or the legal standards are too lax or the incentives are to pass people due to onerous legal processes on appeals etc.

    There's a pretty cool post about a guy lamenting how hard it is to try and get asylum by pretending to be gay.


    Eke40seven:

    So I heard, many of them dey form gay now or marry gay men for pali because it's hard to find a German woman who will marry you.
    African men, (especially, aduro) are on the bottom of dating scale for German women, except most will settle with women with numerous children or the very obese ones German men will never consider marrying.
    It's tough out there in the wild.
    Many come believing the false stories that they will play football or marry a blonde blue eyed German princess but that is not the case most times, may be in the past, but today, the reputation is way too damaged!
     
    Yes
    You need a strong evidence now, even if you claim gay.

    I saw them deporting Pregnant ladies back to Italy and Nigeria.
    German ladies sees African guys as intimacy gadgets now same thing going on in Finland.
     
    But why is the reputation of Nigerian guys so damaged Eke40seven?
  37. @anon
    If Germany and Japan won WWII Europe would be white in 2118. Instead they lost so Europe will be Black and America will be Mestizo. Remember children: the good guys won.

    The nerve all of those Poles and Frenchmen and Brits must have had not to realize that the Germans were really just dropping Bombs of Love.

    • Replies: @silviosilver

    The nerve all of those Poles and Frenchmen and Brits must have had not to realize that the Germans were really just dropping Bombs of Love.
     
    The irony of a Brit complaining about WWII bombing. Priceless.
  38. I’m still scratching my head over how this is the business of you pasty folk?

    Surely what ought to be your business is locking your doors, not the affairs of the bedrooms of others??

    Won’t have children, won’t let others have children. Bunch of weirdos.

    The irritating thing is you folk on here should know better, population boom and busts occur in swings. There are white people on every continent today because the native populations therein could not muster the will to resist your “actual” scramble.

    Thus, if the native populations of other continents can’t muster the will to resist the much ballyhooed hypothetical scramble, that’s just how the pendulum swings.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    I'm inclined to agree with you on all counts, ...

    ... except to note that the white people supposedly "on every continent" are a tiny and shrinking minorities everywhere except Europe (which isn't a real continent, just an affirmative action "continent" so there could be a place with a white majority) and North America, where they are a large and shrinking minority.

  39. @Peter Akuleyev
    It wasn’t communism that brought all these people to Russia, it was capitalism.

    No, it was good old-fashioned imperialism. The Russians absorbed lots of Central Asia types by conquering those areas in the 17th-19th centuries. Russians and Tatars have been mixing for centuries. "White nationalism" has never been particularly attractive to most Russians because traditionally Russian identity was tied to religion and language, not race. Blacks are generally beyond the pale, but no one bats an eye at a Russian having distinctly Asian features.

    Remind again who Pushkin’s Great granddaddy is?

    World Cup is months away, we’ll find out just how beyond the pale Blacks are…

  40. If our rulers have thought about fertility in Africa, it is in the context of HIV in Africa. That would lead them to conclude it is hopeless to try and stop the African from breeding. The West invested a lot of time and money into fighting AIDS in Africa and has had little to show for it.

    There is an expression that was once popular with colonial officials, “Africa Wins Again.” It was in response to the locals finding someway to undermine the best laid plans of Europeans. Short of deploying a chemical agent to cause infertility among Africans, nothing will be done to curb the African TFR, short of starvation and pestilence.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    And when your goal is nearest
    The end for others sought
    Watch sloth and heathen folly
    Bring all your dreams to naught.

    Rudyard Kipling, a portion of The White Man's Burden
    , @ogunsiron
    It's specifically the TFR in the sahelian african countries that seems untameable. The TFR of black caribbean populations is low and falling. Haitian TFR fell below 3.0 by 2015 and TFR for the Bahamas is below 2.00.
  41. Anon[104] • Disclaimer says:

    If Smith’s numberss are true, and if any of the country IQ estimates out there are true, even the Dutch researchers who think Lynne’s numbers are lowballing it on Africa, and if Smart Fraction Theory is true … then isn’t Europe completely screwed? The percentage of the population of European countries with an IQ over 106 would be somewhere between 0.5 and 10, way below the necessary level for a modern country to have a functioning economy.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Technology allowing unprecedented hyper-concentration of power. A tiny human elite mercilessly ruling over hordes of screaming drunken reptile-brain-only consumers. This is exactly what they want. A middle class has opinions and rights, a middle class loves to interfere.
  42. Not many hunters here, eh? Anyone close to the land realizes a sudden uptick in population growth is inevitably followed by a mass die-off the next generation.

    By any measure of success other than the sudden mass population bump, Blacks are a catastrophically failed sub group of humanity. Consistently low IQs , short life spans, and chronic health issues unknown to other racial sub groups are the genetic reality. The social reality is that Blacks as a race are incapable of even a bronze age level civilization, let alone a modern high tech society, so are utterly and completely dependent on non Blacks for their very survival, but also are openly hostile to those very people keeping them alive. That is an epic fail combination any way you look at it.

    Possible future scenarios:

    1. Something worse than HIV, Ebola, or Marburg will tidal rip through the Black subset of humanity resulting in a mass die off event. Something Western medicine won’t catch up with in time. OR, much worse, Whites (ok Asians) will say screw it, you are on your own.

    2.The STD rate will catch up with them in a way that results in mass sterilization. Or, much worse, some one weaponizes a set of STDs to do exactly that. Gee, wonder who might have a game plan for that.

    3. Now that non Americans are getting a massive dose of living with Blacks, a virulent racism (which could at least be justified in brutal realpolitic terms) becomes the defining political reality of the Next generation. With what seem to me to be rather foreseeable results.

    4. Global cooling results in serious agricultural downturns everywhere in the Northern Hemisphere. I don’t know how many third worlders would starve then, but I am guessing more than zero.

    5. Massive new gene manipulation technologies are developed that essentially put an end to racial differences, in which the Black sub race still disappears, but not with violent messiness as per scenarios 1-4.

    Since Blacks cannot survive as a group entirely on their own, they are headed for a future extinction level event no matter what, or remain a despised parasite class for an indefinite period. In any case, other than scenario 5 above, their future does not look good.

  43. @Anon
    https://twitter.com/navyhato/status/986874019029762049

    The comments on there sound more like Stormfront than Cuckbart.

  44. @unit472
    Another interesting WaPo article.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/world/too-many-men/?utm_term=.4742904645f9

    India and China are desperately short of young females. Now I realize that, Bill DeBlasio aside, most non African men do not find African women at the pinnacle of their 'desire' list but for those many millions of Indian and Chinese men an African wife might be better than none at all. Not only would exporting African females to Asia reduce Africa's population explosion it would also reduce the migrant pressure on Europe as the African woman's relatives might go to where they have connections.

    If anything, the Chinese have been more enthusiastic about kicking the Africans out of places like Guangzhou, so no.

    On the other hand, a good plan would be for China to ship their surplus males to work in Africa, where they already have any ever-growing presence. The surplus males can marry Africans, but they can’t bring their wives or offspring back to China. This would be a win-win. China solves its surplus male population problem, and the Africans get a small IQ boost in their gene pool.

    • Replies: @Romanian

    The surplus males can marry Africans, but they can’t bring their wives or offspring back to China.
     
    https://www.zambianobserver.com/china-bans-interracial-marriages-for-females-no-plans-to-restrict-men/

    There was also a brouhaha some time ago, but I cannot find the article with my google-fu, about an African country wanting to forbid marriage of their women to Chinese men.
  45. @unit472
    Another interesting WaPo article.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/world/too-many-men/?utm_term=.4742904645f9

    India and China are desperately short of young females. Now I realize that, Bill DeBlasio aside, most non African men do not find African women at the pinnacle of their 'desire' list but for those many millions of Indian and Chinese men an African wife might be better than none at all. Not only would exporting African females to Asia reduce Africa's population explosion it would also reduce the migrant pressure on Europe as the African woman's relatives might go to where they have connections.

    I like that the issue is presented not as “too few women“, but as “too many men“.

    “India and China are desperately short of young females.”

    I just can’t see Indians importing African women. What caste would they be, for starters?

    • Replies: @Mishra
    India and China, for God's sake! With Africa coming up fast along the rail. We're talking about the most hideously overpopulated places on earth. It's too many people, full stop. That the MSM talk in this context about a "shortage" of people shows how invested they are in the cataclysm.

    You'll never, ever hear them mention any shortage of white people, who are actually in the process of disappearing from the globe.

  46. Female empowerment is how countries are socially sterilised today, so promoting it makes sense, probably more so than promoting anything else. Subsaharan states that have high birth rates do so because they’re too chaotic to impose female empowerment. Women are never empowered except by distant male authority, so you need an effective government to make it work. In South Africa, where the government is feminist and kept semi-functional by whites, blacks have a fertility rate not that much higher than Europe.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    Female empowerment is how countries are socially sterilised today, so promoting it makes sense, probably more so than promoting anything else.
     
    I don't hate any racial or ethnic group enough to wish to impose female empowerment upon them. It's an idea that is just too evil and nihilistic.
    , @Anonymous
    Female empowerment only works for non-African populations. Non-African populations are descended from people who evolved under conditions in which female dependence on male labor, like hunting or farming, was necessary for survival and reproduction. They evolved in an environment in which male labor was more valuable and the major criterion for mating and reproduction. If you take such populations and introduce "female empowerment", male labor decreases in value on average and the supply of more valuable male labor and thus acceptable mates for women decreases.

    On the other hand, African populations evolved in an environment in which male labor was not necessary for survival and reproduction. The climate enabled women to survive and reproduce without male labor and assistance. They effectively already have "female empowerment". They are adapted to having many children under such conditions. Thus introducing more "female empowerment" will do little to reduce fertility there, unlike among non-African populations.
  47. anon[291] • Disclaimer says:

    Well we all know almost everyone in the bible was black from sub Saharan Africa. I think there was one whitish guy in a Galilee ghetto where they were worked in menial labor positions and he was a little religious and claimed they were lying about who they say they were and the people got mad because he tried to say he was a kang, and the mob said he was dangerous but no one would do anything. Finally the religious leaders got together and set him up but still no one would do anything because of whitish privilege or something. They finally convinced Pilate who was really born in Africa and got to the top on affirmative action to do something when the mob screamed he was a rayciss. Then Pilate tortured him to try and get him to say he was not a kang an sheet. But the whitish guy never gave up ( crazy) and they finally drug him out and nailed him to a cross. That’s where he died and they scribbled “rayciss” at the top of the cross. Well that’s the story I heard anyway. 🙂

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  48. But how many in Africa get the message that Bill Gates, famous rich guy, would really like them to have fewer children?

    His wife Belinda Gates tells at lest some of them Africans: She’s into family-planning in Africa (which is a code for – birth control).

  49. “His wife Belinda Gates tells at lest some of them Africans: She’s into family-planning in Africa (which is a code for – birth control).”

    She’s gutsier than famous American Catholics like Pat Buchanan who never recommends birth control for Mexico.

  50. @unit472
    Another interesting WaPo article.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/world/too-many-men/?utm_term=.4742904645f9

    India and China are desperately short of young females. Now I realize that, Bill DeBlasio aside, most non African men do not find African women at the pinnacle of their 'desire' list but for those many millions of Indian and Chinese men an African wife might be better than none at all. Not only would exporting African females to Asia reduce Africa's population explosion it would also reduce the migrant pressure on Europe as the African woman's relatives might go to where they have connections.

    From what I’ve heard, in China, the male-female sex imbalance doesn’t really exist at the urban level. That makes it a much more controllable problem, IMO.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    Neither does the population aging problem exist in the West at the level of important cities, because that is where all the young people go. It is the same everywhere. That does not mean there is no real problem. On the contrary, it is exacerbated by concentration, just like wealth concentration is a problem. I doubt that there is no sex imbalance in the cities, but they have a bigger problem - the Chinese are big on only getting married with parental approval subject to the man of the relationship having a good job, a home and a car. The first and last one are doable, but the Chinese real estate market is a nightmare for young people, especially in the big cities. This is what Chinese yuppies have told me over beer when I visit, so I am not just talking from reading reports.
  51. @TelfoedJohn
    Some Japanese athletes can beat the Africans on long distance: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-athletics-boston-kawauchi/athletics-amateur-kawauchi-takes-alternative-route-to-boston-glory-idUSKBN1HO0VB

    And one Chinese can go sub-10 seconds on the 100m:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_Bingtian

    I’ve wondered if the Boston Marathon result, both for the men’s race and the women’s race, was affected by the weather, both the cold and the wet. Sort of like how certain race horses are said to be mudders, able to run in wet conditions.

    I’m not sure about the heritage of the women’s winner. Possibly Southern European, or possibly mixed, but she did not look very black. First American woman to win Boston in a very long time. probably not a coincidence that it was pouring rain and cold.

    • Replies: @Joe Schmoe
    She was born Desiree Davila in Chula Vista, California. Hispanic.
  52. ” The scary thing is the growing sacralization of blacks as holy beings … ”

    This is it exactly. This is why the issue of the African demographic explosion is existential for the West. Because the sacralization of blacks is the holy writ of the white establishment who control all modes of influence. It will be a Sisyphean feat to counter their suicidal narrative.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    I think you mean "Herculean" rather than "Sisyphean".

    /pedantry
  53. The sacredness of blacks has to do with the ability of white liberals to live separately from them. If that ever ends from weight of numbers, then the sacredness will end, IMO, and blacks will find to their astonishment that the Left is capable of great hostility towards them.

  54. Europe will wake up–a no-brainer. Negro management is a skill even Negroes can’t master

  55. @anon
    If Germany and Japan won WWII Europe would be white in 2118. Instead they lost so Europe will be Black and America will be Mestizo. Remember children: the good guys won.

    No, if anything if Japan and the Nazis had won then Europe and America would have been filled with Africans even sooner.

    Both practiced in effect mass industrial slavery, with slaves essentially worked to death. That was the basis for their empire, and the basic strategy: invade other peoples, and enslave them, carry them off and make them work as slaves, was as old as Sargon and the empire he created what, 5,000 years ago?

    The constant problem with that is that slaves under those conditions at least for White people don’t reproduce. The Roman Empire fell because most of it was slave and the slaves did not fight and were constantly dying off. Since Hitler wanted to enslave pretty much every non German, the logical conclusion would have been a mass die off in the 1950s and the mass importation of African workers who DON’T die off under slavery but rather reproduce like crazy (the African Master Race secret weapon is their astonishing fertility under conditions that crater other people’s fertility) and very quickly over-run their German masters.

    The War, and WWI, and the pill, and the condom, and rising female autonomy all cratered European fertility which had constant falls (the Dark Ages, the Late Roman Republic through Empire, the 1300s Black Death and afterwards) more than expansion.

    And lets face it, given White female supremacy through their commercial power: women make or influence 85% of consumer purchases, what women want is what they get. If Immavaders all looked like young Salma Hayeks or Sofia Vergaras, there would be border walls and navies to keep them out. But since they mostly look like Seal, well for every Seal there’s a Heidi Klum.

    Look at the swagger and domination of Eastern European men — and the violence, lack of consumerism, and repression of women. THAT is the only formula that works to keep Africans from being sacralized (lets get real and say what it is — tingle generators for the Angela Merkels of the world which is why they are “sacred” — does anyone think Chucky Schumer or Antonio Villaraigosa really think Africans are “sacred?”)

  56. Steve, I love the “triple bankshot” analogy. Billiards reference? Perhaps you could also reference the “Triple Lindy” or the “Magic Loogie” from Seinfeld to illustrate degree of difficulty.

  57. @Altai
    Sightly related.

    Has Steve ever taken a gander at the main Nigerian message boards like Nairaland? The 'Travel' (Emigration) section is fantastic. (Even Estonia isn't safe. http://www.nairaland.com/1972275/lets-talk-estonia/1) Treads after threads on visa applications and gaming the system. Here is the first and second post of a new thread on Germany.


    OP
    There are threads for UK, Australian and Canadian immigrants, but none for Germany which is one of the top countries people immigrate to.

    If you are Nigerian immigrant in Germany, please do share your experiences on how you were able to Move to Germany, Getting Accommodation, how the system works there and any info for incoming migrants or people who want to immigrate.

    Post 1
    Hi. I'm living in Germany through family reunion, my hubby is a German.

    Immigrating to Germany is not easy anymore like in the past 20 years. Basically I can not recommend to seek asylum here nowadays cause things have changed. Most Nigerian asylum seekers get rejection quickly, sometimes only months after arrival. Secondly asylum seekers are not allowed to work at the beginning for six months. You will also need working permit, without it it's hard to find a job. If you want to go for black job, better try bigger cities.

    Try an come as student, it makes your path smoother. Learn German, it will help to find a job and make friends.

    Try and mix with Germans, don't stay in the Nigerian community only. It will help you to integrate, maybe your new friends will help you to get a job and know the system.

    Qualified workers are also able to apply for blue card (residence and working permit).

    Good luck
     

    It's the casualness with which she talks about claiming asylum to response to a question asking about emigrating to Germany and how the next easiest is now coming as a student that stuns me. She doesn't consider for a second the implications of asylum fraud.

    http://www.nairaland.com/4447520/living-germany-life-german-immigrant

    http://www.nairaland.com/travel

    There's also a great post from the thread on Sweden.


    Greetings!

    I'm an Afroswede, born and raised in Sweden. Life in sweden is okay, but not much more than that. Its true there is some sense of security system or "safety net" that prevents people to fall below a sertain standard of living. However this welfare system is not what it used to be and the general politics in this century are moving more and more towards lower taxes and a free market so the redistributing of wealth and founding of social institutions for everybody such as youth centres and cheap health care are fading. Sweden still has a well developed school system which is free for all citisens but the gap between rich and poor is now widening and schools in areas with a more wealthy population tend to have better standards and resources both in forms of materials and employees.

    One very important thing to be aware of in this country is that the distribution of wealt can generally be matched with a scale of etnicity, or skincolor. The darker skin you have in Sweden, the lower paid is your job. Sweden do not register its citisens etnicity so the istitutional racism is hard to prove with the help of numbers since there is almost no statistics on it, it falls below the radar. Minority goups in this society is heavily marginalised and have no prominent voice in media or in politics. The few "brown" peolpe in the parliament have gone so far by downplaying their own heritage and by pushing for "stricter laws and regulations towards immigrants".

    Sweden is one of those countries where you might live for 40 years or even be born in, and still not really feel "swedish". The perceprion of "swedishness" does not include anyone that is non-white, thats why, as for examle an African, many doors will be closed. Swedes still feel that blacks, arabs, asians or latinos is not a natural part of sweden. It does not matter if your family has livd here for generations, if you are black, your swedishness will be questioned and you will never be fully accepted as swedish as much as a white person with a "swedish-sounding" name or not even as much as an immigrant that is white.

    The grass is allways greener on the other side... If you come here you might find it an acceptable place to live if you master the language and manage to withstand the long dark cold winters. The nature is beautiful, the streets are much safer than UK or USA and as I said before the education system is really good and totally free. grin Its not easy in Sweden but its far from the worst places to live. Unfortunately the new government imposed fees for exchange students from outside EU so if you are not planning on becoming a citisen and just want to study i reccomend Germany. They still have a lot of schools with very low fees but with hight quality and you will find many masters programmes in english.
     

    In the 1960s, at the dawn of the “civil rights movement” there was a popular assumption, implicit and explicit, that the social distortions the movement created (affirmative action, set asides, college degrees in fake subjects, etc.) were just temporary until blacks make up the “lost” distance and so became equal to everyone else. As everyone now knows, this hasn’t happened. Neither have black outcomes become equal, nor have the distortions been temporary, even though the Supreme Court semi-declared that 2028 wold be the end of affirmative action. It not only hasn’t happened, it keeps growing: e.g., as of last week, business owners must allow blacks–and only blacks–to loiter at will in their establishments.

    It not only hasn’t happened and not only keeps growing but it has jumped over borders, even non-contiguous borders widely separated by oceans.

    It was kinda plausible to talk about “proving racism” and such as a legal cause in mid-to-late 20th century US where there was an active project to uplift the slave-descended part of the population. But that upliftment has done all the uplifting it’s gonna do, and in any case it was predicated on the upliftee population having been formerly subject to a particular hardship by the presently uplifting authority. Now though, the language and (dubious) logic of civil rights-ism has leapt free of the circumstances where it was arguably plausible over to wildly different circumstances where they make no sense.

    Nowadays, foreigners in country A openly conspire in how to abuse legal concepts from circumstances in country B to exploit the society in country C. Admittedly, country C is partly to blame for needlessly importing dubious legal concepts from country B that don’t apply to it. And country B is partly to blame for aggressively exporting it’s “culture”. But the conspirators in country A bear guilt as well.

    If Europe (country C) has any sense they will cease the mindless mimicry of the US’s (country B’s) least successful (if arguably necessary) public policy überproject and be content with their own laws for their own people based on their own customs and their own history.

    I too once assumed that the obvious absurdities of the affirmative action-state would be a temporary injustice which would remedy, however imperfectly, a past injustice, however unrelated. It is now long apparent, though, that the current injustice will continue to grow, metastasize and spread–even unto the whole world, even while the past injustice slips further and further away in distance and relevance.

  58. @SunBakedSuburb
    " The scary thing is the growing sacralization of blacks as holy beings ... "

    This is it exactly. This is why the issue of the African demographic explosion is existential for the West. Because the sacralization of blacks is the holy writ of the white establishment who control all modes of influence. It will be a Sisyphean feat to counter their suicidal narrative.

    I think you mean “Herculean” rather than “Sisyphean”.

    /pedantry

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    I had in my mind the image of pushing of a boulder up the hill, a ridiculous, self-defeating task; but yeah, Herculean works better.
    , @Romanian
    You're right, but his way works too if you are very pessimistic and think that Africa will always win out.
  59. @Peter Akuleyev
    I met a middle-aged guy from Congo yesterday who has lived in Europe for decades and is trying to set up an import business. He was telling me Europe is "done" in the sense that there are no good jobs any more for African immigrants and wages are so low he wouldn't recommend any one with ambition move here. Wasn't clear to me where he thinks life is better, I suppose the USA, so have fun with that. He was also telling me any African initiative in Africa gets squashed by Europeans. He used to export raw diamonds from Congo to Europe. He understands there would be more value added if he set up a workshop to do the diamond-cutting in Africa, but he claims the "Israelis" just kill any African foolish enough to take on the cartel.

    but he claims the “Israelis” just kill any African foolish enough to take on the cartel.

    Those damn Europeans.

  60. @JollyOldSoul
    Sounds like a great site for various asylum and immigration agencies to do opposition research and discover the latest methods invaders are using to game the system. Also sounds like a great place for agents provocateurs.

    The problem is that in Western societies the people who work for asylum and immigration agencies are in cahoots with the system-gaming invaders.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  61. I wouldn’t be surprised if when Macron and Bill Gates get together, they talk about this in private. Deep down, Gates is an old-fashioned rich WASP population controller in the old Rockefeller/Bush mode. But in public, Gates has to talk about his various triple-bankshot plans for helping Africans ready themselves for climate change or via female empowerment or whatever.

    People of Gates’ prominence are mostly concerned about one thing: their place in the history books. That image has to be burnished at all costs, the ordinary people be damned (particularly when Gates has no children of his own to bring home the urgency of what lies ahead for the culture and society that produced him.)

    • Replies: @Allison
    I think Bill Gates has maybe three children? I just read an article about his daughter competitively jumping horses I think.
    , @Flip
    Gates has three children.
    , @Ed
    Gates has 3 kid, Bezos has 4, the Rockefellers have been quite fertile since John Jr.

    I’m afraid you don’t know what you’re talking about.
  62. @JollyOldSoul
    Sounds like a great site for various asylum and immigration agencies to do opposition research and discover the latest methods invaders are using to game the system. Also sounds like a great place for agents provocateurs.

    I’m sure they already do. It’s also pretty obvious when you see patterns in case loads. Every assessor in the West knows almost all of them are lying. It’s just either difficult to prove it or the legal standards are too lax or the incentives are to pass people due to onerous legal processes on appeals etc.

    There’s a pretty cool post about a guy lamenting how hard it is to try and get asylum by pretending to be gay.

    Eke40seven:

    So I heard, many of them dey form gay now or marry gay men for pali because it’s hard to find a German woman who will marry you.
    African men, (especially, aduro) are on the bottom of dating scale for German women, except most will settle with women with numerous children or the very obese ones German men will never consider marrying.
    It’s tough out there in the wild.
    Many come believing the false stories that they will play football or marry a blonde blue eyed German princess but that is not the case most times, may be in the past, but today, the reputation is way too damaged!

    Yes
    You need a strong evidence now, even if you claim gay.

    I saw them deporting Pregnant ladies back to Italy and Nigeria.
    German ladies sees African guys as intimacy gadgets now same thing going on in Finland.

    But why is the reputation of Nigerian guys so damaged Eke40seven?

  63. My new favourite Nairaland ‘Travel’ post.

    http://www.nairaland.com/2050510/canada-chop-aduro

    pls does any1 knows abt dis canada asylum stuff…where u will land at canada without passport and then raise up ur hand…pls does it still exist…tnx

  64. @Altai
    Sightly related.

    Has Steve ever taken a gander at the main Nigerian message boards like Nairaland? The 'Travel' (Emigration) section is fantastic. (Even Estonia isn't safe. http://www.nairaland.com/1972275/lets-talk-estonia/1) Treads after threads on visa applications and gaming the system. Here is the first and second post of a new thread on Germany.


    OP
    There are threads for UK, Australian and Canadian immigrants, but none for Germany which is one of the top countries people immigrate to.

    If you are Nigerian immigrant in Germany, please do share your experiences on how you were able to Move to Germany, Getting Accommodation, how the system works there and any info for incoming migrants or people who want to immigrate.

    Post 1
    Hi. I'm living in Germany through family reunion, my hubby is a German.

    Immigrating to Germany is not easy anymore like in the past 20 years. Basically I can not recommend to seek asylum here nowadays cause things have changed. Most Nigerian asylum seekers get rejection quickly, sometimes only months after arrival. Secondly asylum seekers are not allowed to work at the beginning for six months. You will also need working permit, without it it's hard to find a job. If you want to go for black job, better try bigger cities.

    Try an come as student, it makes your path smoother. Learn German, it will help to find a job and make friends.

    Try and mix with Germans, don't stay in the Nigerian community only. It will help you to integrate, maybe your new friends will help you to get a job and know the system.

    Qualified workers are also able to apply for blue card (residence and working permit).

    Good luck
     

    It's the casualness with which she talks about claiming asylum to response to a question asking about emigrating to Germany and how the next easiest is now coming as a student that stuns me. She doesn't consider for a second the implications of asylum fraud.

    http://www.nairaland.com/4447520/living-germany-life-german-immigrant

    http://www.nairaland.com/travel

    There's also a great post from the thread on Sweden.


    Greetings!

    I'm an Afroswede, born and raised in Sweden. Life in sweden is okay, but not much more than that. Its true there is some sense of security system or "safety net" that prevents people to fall below a sertain standard of living. However this welfare system is not what it used to be and the general politics in this century are moving more and more towards lower taxes and a free market so the redistributing of wealth and founding of social institutions for everybody such as youth centres and cheap health care are fading. Sweden still has a well developed school system which is free for all citisens but the gap between rich and poor is now widening and schools in areas with a more wealthy population tend to have better standards and resources both in forms of materials and employees.

    One very important thing to be aware of in this country is that the distribution of wealt can generally be matched with a scale of etnicity, or skincolor. The darker skin you have in Sweden, the lower paid is your job. Sweden do not register its citisens etnicity so the istitutional racism is hard to prove with the help of numbers since there is almost no statistics on it, it falls below the radar. Minority goups in this society is heavily marginalised and have no prominent voice in media or in politics. The few "brown" peolpe in the parliament have gone so far by downplaying their own heritage and by pushing for "stricter laws and regulations towards immigrants".

    Sweden is one of those countries where you might live for 40 years or even be born in, and still not really feel "swedish". The perceprion of "swedishness" does not include anyone that is non-white, thats why, as for examle an African, many doors will be closed. Swedes still feel that blacks, arabs, asians or latinos is not a natural part of sweden. It does not matter if your family has livd here for generations, if you are black, your swedishness will be questioned and you will never be fully accepted as swedish as much as a white person with a "swedish-sounding" name or not even as much as an immigrant that is white.

    The grass is allways greener on the other side... If you come here you might find it an acceptable place to live if you master the language and manage to withstand the long dark cold winters. The nature is beautiful, the streets are much safer than UK or USA and as I said before the education system is really good and totally free. grin Its not easy in Sweden but its far from the worst places to live. Unfortunately the new government imposed fees for exchange students from outside EU so if you are not planning on becoming a citisen and just want to study i reccomend Germany. They still have a lot of schools with very low fees but with hight quality and you will find many masters programmes in english.
     

    I see a vast difference between the first and the second post, and it’s the difference between first and second generation immigrants. First = assimilate and work hard. Second = sudden jihad syndrome.

  65. The Scramble For Africa? No. Africa’s Scramble For Europe.

    The Race To Fashoda? No. The Race To Demographic Destruction.

    Tweets From 2015:

  66. This Stephen Smith* lecture is interesting.

    First, that it exists. It is widely understood, but little discussed, that in America, college “African Studies” programs are largely parking lots for the Affirmative Action admits who aren’t cut out for normal college classes, where they can discuss secret hotep history about how blacks built the pyramids and invented science through their Greek puppet states. Imagine the shock of a student signing up for Dr. Smith’s African Studies class only to find out that the class is an objective and dispassionate study of Africa! And taught by a bald white guy with an accent no less! What is he, some kind of racist?!? I’m surprised there are no lawsuits or boycotts yet.

    Second, he refers to a Black Death-like “pathogen encounter” in the late nineteenth century that, he says, wiped out a third to half of the West- and Central-African population. I’ve never heard of this before. Plus, it doesn’t really make sense. The Americas were biologically isolated from Eurasia by vast oceans, so after the 15th century Columbian contact, a bow wave of New World plague from the catastrophic update to its microbial software makes sense. But Africa wasn’t isolated. There were Arab slavers and traders in Africa since forever. Was internal travel within Africa so static that most of it was effectively isolated, even from microbes, until the 19th century? And anyway, how does he know the population figures, given that even modern African censuses are unreliable, and there weren’t even unreliable censuses in SSA Africa two centuries ago?

    *Odd name for a French guy. Or is he German? PhD is from Berlin(!). Poly-linguistic Anglo?

    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    US citizen, born in Connecticut.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    Like you, I had never heard of that pathogen encounter in Africa. My impression is that the disease load was already quite high in Africa and that the life expectancy of a European going to equitorial or west Africa was about 18 months, until about 100 years ago. And that figure was pulled up by a few Europeans who had acquired some degree of immunity to tropical diseases. There was a basis for the old British mariners' ditty:

    Beware and take heed of the Bight of Benin
    Where few come out, but many go in!
    , @gebrauchshund
    My guess would be that he's referring to a rinderpest outbreak in the 1890's. Killed 80-90% of cattle in much of central and southern Africa, along with large percentages of wild ungulates, causing widespread famine and depopulating much of the region.
    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    That time period he mentions roughly corresponds to the reign of King Leopold in the Congo. Conventional history tells us that millions of Congolese were worked to death in the rubber trade.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Leopold%27s_Ghost

    But if this disease theory is to be believed, then much as it was with the Indians, the Congolese were killed mostly by pathogens rather than bloodthirsty Europeans.
    , @Steve Sailer
    I don't know the full Stephen Smith story, but he was born in the U.S. and is now back in the U.S. but spent most of his career writing for French publications

    English actress Kristen Scott-Thomas is from an upscale British background (she's related to Robert Scott, the doomed Antarctic explorer), but she went to Paris to work as an au pair at 19 and became kind of a French movie star. Jodie Foster, who went to a French-speaking school in Los Angeles, could have followed a similar path (she's great in a supporting role in French in A Very Long Engagement) but didn't need to because she was so successful in America.

    , @Anon
    Stephen Smith's Rate My Professor ratings are really high. He assigns a lot of reading, expects you to read it, and grades hard. Yet only one student rated him below a 3.5, and all comments are positive, including fans who take more than one of his classes.

    http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1573217

    Here's the dissenter:


    I do not recommend Smith or his class, Intro to African Studies. He is difficult to approach and a hard grader. This is supposed to be an intro class, and it was not taught or graded like one. Lectures were very all over the place and I often left feeling confused. If you take this class, attend every lecture or you will do poorly on tests.
     
    This was supposed to be a mick, but was actually hard! He expects you to show up! He said things in class that I didn't already know!

    It occurs to me that it would be hilarious for a university to make all the African Studies classes super difficult.

  67. @J1234

    I wouldn’t be surprised if when Macron and Bill Gates get together, they talk about this in private. Deep down, Gates is an old-fashioned rich WASP population controller in the old Rockefeller/Bush mode. But in public, Gates has to talk about his various triple-bankshot plans for helping Africans ready themselves for climate change or via female empowerment or whatever.
     
    People of Gates' prominence are mostly concerned about one thing: their place in the history books. That image has to be burnished at all costs, the ordinary people be damned (particularly when Gates has no children of his own to bring home the urgency of what lies ahead for the culture and society that produced him.)

    I think Bill Gates has maybe three children? I just read an article about his daughter competitively jumping horses I think.

    • Replies: @Amanuensis
    Yes, as far as I know, Bill and Melinda have three children.
  68. @Nigerian Nationalist
    I'm still scratching my head over how this is the business of you pasty folk?

    Surely what ought to be your business is locking your doors, not the affairs of the bedrooms of others??

    Won't have children, won't let others have children. Bunch of weirdos.

    The irritating thing is you folk on here should know better, population boom and busts occur in swings. There are white people on every continent today because the native populations therein could not muster the will to resist your "actual" scramble.

    Thus, if the native populations of other continents can't muster the will to resist the much ballyhooed hypothetical scramble, that's just how the pendulum swings.

    I’m inclined to agree with you on all counts, …

    … except to note that the white people supposedly “on every continent” are a tiny and shrinking minorities everywhere except Europe (which isn’t a real continent, just an affirmative action “continent” so there could be a place with a white majority) and North America, where they are a large and shrinking minority.

  69. @J1234

    I wouldn’t be surprised if when Macron and Bill Gates get together, they talk about this in private. Deep down, Gates is an old-fashioned rich WASP population controller in the old Rockefeller/Bush mode. But in public, Gates has to talk about his various triple-bankshot plans for helping Africans ready themselves for climate change or via female empowerment or whatever.
     
    People of Gates' prominence are mostly concerned about one thing: their place in the history books. That image has to be burnished at all costs, the ordinary people be damned (particularly when Gates has no children of his own to bring home the urgency of what lies ahead for the culture and society that produced him.)

    Gates has three children.

  70. @YetAnotherAnon
    I like that the issue is presented not as "too few women", but as "too many men".

    "India and China are desperately short of young females."

    I just can't see Indians importing African women. What caste would they be, for starters?

    India and China, for God’s sake! With Africa coming up fast along the rail. We’re talking about the most hideously overpopulated places on earth. It’s too many people, full stop. That the MSM talk in this context about a “shortage” of people shows how invested they are in the cataclysm.

    You’ll never, ever hear them mention any shortage of white people, who are actually in the process of disappearing from the globe.

  71. 4 billion is a very unrealistic low projection. A much higher number is more realistic

  72. @Intelligent Dasein
    This is a non-problem.

    We are rapidly approaching the point whereat it no longer makes any sense for anybody to emigrate, as the cost/benefit analysis does not support it. Why move to a foreign continent where conditions are no better when you can just stay where you already know the place and the people?

    Also, Africa's projected population growth over the next century is completely fictitious. Africa's population growth is entirely dependent on Western aid; and as the West will shortly no longer be able even to support itself, it surely will not support Africa as well. Those billions of Africans will never be born, so there is no need to worry about them.

    Finally, anybody who thinks that Africa will "develop" and stabilize into a high-income, high-education, low-fertility socioeconomic pattern needs to get real. Africa possesses neither the physical capital nor the human capital to do this. It has no access to credit, nothing to trade except depleting mineral reserves, and nothing to offer the rest of the world. If Africans in the West have not WASPified themselves in 500 years, it beggars belief to think that Africans in Africa will do so. Besides, the idea that the very poison which killed the West ought to be recommended to Africa as a cure for its particular "ills" is troubling and perverse. It is actually quite the other way around. The West needs to beef up its fertility and stop wasting its time with pointless "development" if it is to survive.

    The best, sanest, most successful, and most natural African policy is to simply forget about it, cut it off, consign it to terra incognita. There is absolutely nothing to be gained by meddling with it. We do not need Africa and we cannot help Africa. The time has come to just leave it be. Anything else is an ego trip.

    Now, this is an attitude I can get behind.

    Your people’s interference does more harm than good…look to your borders.

  73. Anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai
    Macron and his handlers are hoping that by talking frankly about issues they can temper some of the concern, that's all. It's psychological manipulation. And even though the French electorate knows this, it still has some effect. Propaganda works.

    That’s right. It’s just talk. We’ve been seeing this for decades. Talk right and legislate left. Unfortunately voters always fall for it.

  74. @Pericles
    Isn't Buffett leaving his money to the Gates Foundation?

    Maybe. If so, it is with the expectation that most of it will go to contraception. He already gives huge amounts to Planned Parenthood already.

  75. @Almost Missouri
    This Stephen Smith* lecture is interesting.

    First, that it exists. It is widely understood, but little discussed, that in America, college "African Studies" programs are largely parking lots for the Affirmative Action admits who aren't cut out for normal college classes, where they can discuss secret hotep history about how blacks built the pyramids and invented science through their Greek puppet states. Imagine the shock of a student signing up for Dr. Smith's African Studies class only to find out that the class is an objective and dispassionate study of Africa! And taught by a bald white guy with an accent no less! What is he, some kind of racist?!? I'm surprised there are no lawsuits or boycotts yet.

    Second, he refers to a Black Death-like "pathogen encounter" in the late nineteenth century that, he says, wiped out a third to half of the West- and Central-African population. I've never heard of this before. Plus, it doesn't really make sense. The Americas were biologically isolated from Eurasia by vast oceans, so after the 15th century Columbian contact, a bow wave of New World plague from the catastrophic update to its microbial software makes sense. But Africa wasn't isolated. There were Arab slavers and traders in Africa since forever. Was internal travel within Africa so static that most of it was effectively isolated, even from microbes, until the 19th century? And anyway, how does he know the population figures, given that even modern African censuses are unreliable, and there weren't even unreliable censuses in SSA Africa two centuries ago?

    *Odd name for a French guy. Or is he German? PhD is from Berlin(!). Poly-linguistic Anglo?

    US citizen, born in Connecticut.

  76. your descendants (I know most of you losers don’t have kids but bear with me) will be Black so get over it

    • Replies: @unit472
    What a non sequitur or, in ebonics, you be stupid! By definition, anyone with no children will have no descendants- of any color.
  77. OFF TOPIC

    They wouldn’t let the 10 year Treasury hit 2.93%. I ain’t talking about that Third World mutant invader who killed that Inman woman in Berkeley when I reference “they.”

    The Alt-Right High Command calls for the Federal Reserve Bank to immediately raise the federal funds rate to the normal level of 6 percent. Let’s get this global financial implosion party started!

    Real Estate Price Collapse Coming(residential and commercial):

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/where-we-live/wp/2018/04/19/mortgage-rates-climb-to-highs-not-seen-in-four-years/?utm_term=.85dbc342d9ff

  78. @The Z Blog
    If our rulers have thought about fertility in Africa, it is in the context of HIV in Africa. That would lead them to conclude it is hopeless to try and stop the African from breeding. The West invested a lot of time and money into fighting AIDS in Africa and has had little to show for it.

    There is an expression that was once popular with colonial officials, "Africa Wins Again." It was in response to the locals finding someway to undermine the best laid plans of Europeans. Short of deploying a chemical agent to cause infertility among Africans, nothing will be done to curb the African TFR, short of starvation and pestilence.

    And when your goal is nearest
    The end for others sought
    Watch sloth and heathen folly
    Bring all your dreams to naught.

    Rudyard Kipling, a portion of The White Man’s Burden

  79. America in one picture #2

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/18/dinosaur-puppet-tanks-three-air-force-careers/

    I want General Barney.

    The cancer of Homomania just gets worse and worse. Encourage a lie, and stupidity spreads and spreads. Now, infantile antics with dino dolls.

  80. @Almost Missouri
    This Stephen Smith* lecture is interesting.

    First, that it exists. It is widely understood, but little discussed, that in America, college "African Studies" programs are largely parking lots for the Affirmative Action admits who aren't cut out for normal college classes, where they can discuss secret hotep history about how blacks built the pyramids and invented science through their Greek puppet states. Imagine the shock of a student signing up for Dr. Smith's African Studies class only to find out that the class is an objective and dispassionate study of Africa! And taught by a bald white guy with an accent no less! What is he, some kind of racist?!? I'm surprised there are no lawsuits or boycotts yet.

    Second, he refers to a Black Death-like "pathogen encounter" in the late nineteenth century that, he says, wiped out a third to half of the West- and Central-African population. I've never heard of this before. Plus, it doesn't really make sense. The Americas were biologically isolated from Eurasia by vast oceans, so after the 15th century Columbian contact, a bow wave of New World plague from the catastrophic update to its microbial software makes sense. But Africa wasn't isolated. There were Arab slavers and traders in Africa since forever. Was internal travel within Africa so static that most of it was effectively isolated, even from microbes, until the 19th century? And anyway, how does he know the population figures, given that even modern African censuses are unreliable, and there weren't even unreliable censuses in SSA Africa two centuries ago?

    *Odd name for a French guy. Or is he German? PhD is from Berlin(!). Poly-linguistic Anglo?

    Like you, I had never heard of that pathogen encounter in Africa. My impression is that the disease load was already quite high in Africa and that the life expectancy of a European going to equitorial or west Africa was about 18 months, until about 100 years ago. And that figure was pulled up by a few Europeans who had acquired some degree of immunity to tropical diseases. There was a basis for the old British mariners’ ditty:

    Beware and take heed of the Bight of Benin
    Where few come out, but many go in!

  81. @Altai
    Sightly related.

    Has Steve ever taken a gander at the main Nigerian message boards like Nairaland? The 'Travel' (Emigration) section is fantastic. (Even Estonia isn't safe. http://www.nairaland.com/1972275/lets-talk-estonia/1) Treads after threads on visa applications and gaming the system. Here is the first and second post of a new thread on Germany.


    OP
    There are threads for UK, Australian and Canadian immigrants, but none for Germany which is one of the top countries people immigrate to.

    If you are Nigerian immigrant in Germany, please do share your experiences on how you were able to Move to Germany, Getting Accommodation, how the system works there and any info for incoming migrants or people who want to immigrate.

    Post 1
    Hi. I'm living in Germany through family reunion, my hubby is a German.

    Immigrating to Germany is not easy anymore like in the past 20 years. Basically I can not recommend to seek asylum here nowadays cause things have changed. Most Nigerian asylum seekers get rejection quickly, sometimes only months after arrival. Secondly asylum seekers are not allowed to work at the beginning for six months. You will also need working permit, without it it's hard to find a job. If you want to go for black job, better try bigger cities.

    Try an come as student, it makes your path smoother. Learn German, it will help to find a job and make friends.

    Try and mix with Germans, don't stay in the Nigerian community only. It will help you to integrate, maybe your new friends will help you to get a job and know the system.

    Qualified workers are also able to apply for blue card (residence and working permit).

    Good luck
     

    It's the casualness with which she talks about claiming asylum to response to a question asking about emigrating to Germany and how the next easiest is now coming as a student that stuns me. She doesn't consider for a second the implications of asylum fraud.

    http://www.nairaland.com/4447520/living-germany-life-german-immigrant

    http://www.nairaland.com/travel

    There's also a great post from the thread on Sweden.


    Greetings!

    I'm an Afroswede, born and raised in Sweden. Life in sweden is okay, but not much more than that. Its true there is some sense of security system or "safety net" that prevents people to fall below a sertain standard of living. However this welfare system is not what it used to be and the general politics in this century are moving more and more towards lower taxes and a free market so the redistributing of wealth and founding of social institutions for everybody such as youth centres and cheap health care are fading. Sweden still has a well developed school system which is free for all citisens but the gap between rich and poor is now widening and schools in areas with a more wealthy population tend to have better standards and resources both in forms of materials and employees.

    One very important thing to be aware of in this country is that the distribution of wealt can generally be matched with a scale of etnicity, or skincolor. The darker skin you have in Sweden, the lower paid is your job. Sweden do not register its citisens etnicity so the istitutional racism is hard to prove with the help of numbers since there is almost no statistics on it, it falls below the radar. Minority goups in this society is heavily marginalised and have no prominent voice in media or in politics. The few "brown" peolpe in the parliament have gone so far by downplaying their own heritage and by pushing for "stricter laws and regulations towards immigrants".

    Sweden is one of those countries where you might live for 40 years or even be born in, and still not really feel "swedish". The perceprion of "swedishness" does not include anyone that is non-white, thats why, as for examle an African, many doors will be closed. Swedes still feel that blacks, arabs, asians or latinos is not a natural part of sweden. It does not matter if your family has livd here for generations, if you are black, your swedishness will be questioned and you will never be fully accepted as swedish as much as a white person with a "swedish-sounding" name or not even as much as an immigrant that is white.

    The grass is allways greener on the other side... If you come here you might find it an acceptable place to live if you master the language and manage to withstand the long dark cold winters. The nature is beautiful, the streets are much safer than UK or USA and as I said before the education system is really good and totally free. grin Its not easy in Sweden but its far from the worst places to live. Unfortunately the new government imposed fees for exchange students from outside EU so if you are not planning on becoming a citisen and just want to study i reccomend Germany. They still have a lot of schools with very low fees but with hight quality and you will find many masters programmes in english.
     

    Great find. Thanks. I will use it as an educational aid.

  82. @James Kabala
    The Gateses are indeed pretty open about their love of contraception. Not as much as Warren Buffett, though, who last I heard intended to leave his entire fortune to population control groups. Ted Turner was also an enthusiast, but we never hear much from him lately. (Kind of surprising in view of how loud and brash he was once was. You would barely know he is still alive.)

    And Buffett’s sidekick, Charlie Munger, is a particularly great abortion enthusiast.

  83. @unit472
    Unions aren't very powerful in the US today so their ability to cause national disruption is limited. A local transit district might go on strike and mess up the commute for a single metro area but in European countries the rail systems are national and carry a lot more of the freight than in the US so strikes by rail unions do have a large economic impact.

    Macron is, to his credit, trying to reform the featherbedding and other practices unions engage in and, these being both unions and French, they are resisting mightily. Imagine if Trump tried to replace Federal Civil Service pensions with 401K and IRA plans!

    Yes the African population bomb looms large but, for now, it is over the horizon and the French rail strike is hear and now. Macron is at least aware of it and, if he wants to keeps his precious EU project together he knows stopping immigration is a quid pro quo for further integration in Europe. You can't keep on degrading 'citizenship' without degrading democracy and allowing people from anywhere to just show up, move in and start voting makes Democracy meaningless.

    allowing people from anywhere to just show up, move in and start voting makes Democracy meaningless.

    That’s why they’re doing it.

  84. @Anon
    If Smith's numberss are true, and if any of the country IQ estimates out there are true, even the Dutch researchers who think Lynne's numbers are lowballing it on Africa, and if Smart Fraction Theory is true ... then isn't Europe completely screwed? The percentage of the population of European countries with an IQ over 106 would be somewhere between 0.5 and 10, way below the necessary level for a modern country to have a functioning economy.

    Technology allowing unprecedented hyper-concentration of power. A tiny human elite mercilessly ruling over hordes of screaming drunken reptile-brain-only consumers. This is exactly what they want. A middle class has opinions and rights, a middle class loves to interfere.

  85. @Intelligent Dasein
    This is a non-problem.

    We are rapidly approaching the point whereat it no longer makes any sense for anybody to emigrate, as the cost/benefit analysis does not support it. Why move to a foreign continent where conditions are no better when you can just stay where you already know the place and the people?

    Also, Africa's projected population growth over the next century is completely fictitious. Africa's population growth is entirely dependent on Western aid; and as the West will shortly no longer be able even to support itself, it surely will not support Africa as well. Those billions of Africans will never be born, so there is no need to worry about them.

    Finally, anybody who thinks that Africa will "develop" and stabilize into a high-income, high-education, low-fertility socioeconomic pattern needs to get real. Africa possesses neither the physical capital nor the human capital to do this. It has no access to credit, nothing to trade except depleting mineral reserves, and nothing to offer the rest of the world. If Africans in the West have not WASPified themselves in 500 years, it beggars belief to think that Africans in Africa will do so. Besides, the idea that the very poison which killed the West ought to be recommended to Africa as a cure for its particular "ills" is troubling and perverse. It is actually quite the other way around. The West needs to beef up its fertility and stop wasting its time with pointless "development" if it is to survive.

    The best, sanest, most successful, and most natural African policy is to simply forget about it, cut it off, consign it to terra incognita. There is absolutely nothing to be gained by meddling with it. We do not need Africa and we cannot help Africa. The time has come to just leave it be. Anything else is an ego trip.

    Amen.

  86. @J1234

    I wouldn’t be surprised if when Macron and Bill Gates get together, they talk about this in private. Deep down, Gates is an old-fashioned rich WASP population controller in the old Rockefeller/Bush mode. But in public, Gates has to talk about his various triple-bankshot plans for helping Africans ready themselves for climate change or via female empowerment or whatever.
     
    People of Gates' prominence are mostly concerned about one thing: their place in the history books. That image has to be burnished at all costs, the ordinary people be damned (particularly when Gates has no children of his own to bring home the urgency of what lies ahead for the culture and society that produced him.)

    Gates has 3 kid, Bezos has 4, the Rockefellers have been quite fertile since John Jr.

    I’m afraid you don’t know what you’re talking about.

  87. @Mishra
    Even the most oblique reference to the African population explosion is completely verboten in polite circles in America. So my hat's off to the French for at least being able to mention something like this. It's going to affect us all before too long, unless we're fortunate enough to die first, but meanwhile it's too 'useful' to the Ruling Class in the USA to permit public discussion about it.

    Even the most oblique reference to the African population explosion is completely verboten in polite circles in America. So my hat’s off to the French for at least being able to mention something like this.

    The US was easier to roll, because slavery and the conquest of the natives started us out as multi-ethnic. Ergo “American” was multi-ethnic–even though the people who created the nation were not. From there it was just some verbal jousting and propaganda to get to “a nation of immigrants” and the lie that if they handed you a passport you were “American”.

    But, i am a bit perplexed why the Euros have been so easy to roll.

    The French seem to be quite proud of their country and really like their culture. What the heck is to prevent, a French politician from saying the obvious:

    “A nation’s character is defined by who is in it. I was born in France, love France and want to live … in France. And for France to be France, it needs to be full of actual French people. If we French want to live in France, immigration must end. Otherwise we’ll simply have some lines on a map called ‘France’ but which is not France at all. That would be a great tragedy. Immigration must be stopped–now.”

    • Replies: @istevefan

    But, i am a bit perplexed why the Euros have been so easy to roll.

    The French seem to be quite proud of their country and really like their culture...
     
    The combined effects of the twentieth century's destructive wars are probably to blame. Europeans were riding high at the end of the nineteenth century and were heads and shoulders above the rest of the world. They were very patriotic and competitive with one another, but then they walked into WW1, and the rest is history. William Lind once wrote that Europeans put a pistol to their heads in 1914 and collectively committed suicide.

    I've heard interesting discussions where people suggest that the best and bravest were killed off leaving behind what would become the cucks. I've heard people argue that watching the devastation of the 20th century caused Europeans to question their religious faith and notion of patriotism.

    Whatever is the specific cause, I think it is pretty clear that the cumulative effect of the 20th century made us question our civilization and has caused us pause.
    , @RonaldB
    You didn't address that Steve talked about not only the high birth rate of Africans, but European and American intervention to humanely lower the birthrates. This may stem from an altruistic impulse. Or, it may derive from a conviction that the most effective route to prevent immigration is actually sponsorship of birth control in the African nations.

    But, of course, the ethos and all the instincts of the African individuals are to plow any resources into having more children. I'd like to know of any instances where birth control efforts in sub-Saharan Africa had any measurable effects. There may be a decline in the African birth rate sometime in the future due to the natural genetic deterioration of a population once the environmental selection pressures are removed. But, by then, the Europe of the white Europeans will be long gone.
  88. Ed says:

    Africa is in a sorry state. In West Africa there are only 23stable countries, Senegal, Ghana & Ivory Coast and Ivory Coast is just coming off of a civil war and tensions are still below the surface. Liberia & Sierra Leone are wretched countries even by African standards. Nigeria which is the “superpower” of the region is weighed down by ethnic strife, Boku Harem and over dependency on oil.

    Moving East, Congo is literally hell on Earth, a vast country with scarcely any paved roads. Kenya seems ok but here too ethnic strife can flare up at a drop of a dime.

    The best thing for Europe is to just day no. Rip up the Geneva conventions, defend their countries and stay out of Africa.

  89. @Almost Missouri
    I think you mean "Herculean" rather than "Sisyphean".

    /pedantry

    I had in my mind the image of pushing of a boulder up the hill, a ridiculous, self-defeating task; but yeah, Herculean works better.

  90. @Anon
    You really want to get freaked out, recall Steve's sickle cell analysis of babies born in Paris....yikes!

    You really want to get freaked out, recall Steve’s sickle cell analysis of babies born in Paris….yikes!

    Now updated for 2016!

    https://www.eurocanadian.ca/2017/12/africanization-of-france-in-2016.html

  91. @Hapalong Cassidy
    If anything, the Chinese have been more enthusiastic about kicking the Africans out of places like Guangzhou, so no.

    On the other hand, a good plan would be for China to ship their surplus males to work in Africa, where they already have any ever-growing presence. The surplus males can marry Africans, but they can’t bring their wives or offspring back to China. This would be a win-win. China solves its surplus male population problem, and the Africans get a small IQ boost in their gene pool.

    The surplus males can marry Africans, but they can’t bring their wives or offspring back to China.

    https://www.zambianobserver.com/china-bans-interracial-marriages-for-females-no-plans-to-restrict-men/

    There was also a brouhaha some time ago, but I cannot find the article with my google-fu, about an African country wanting to forbid marriage of their women to Chinese men.

  92. @songbird
    From what I've heard, in China, the male-female sex imbalance doesn't really exist at the urban level. That makes it a much more controllable problem, IMO.

    Neither does the population aging problem exist in the West at the level of important cities, because that is where all the young people go. It is the same everywhere. That does not mean there is no real problem. On the contrary, it is exacerbated by concentration, just like wealth concentration is a problem. I doubt that there is no sex imbalance in the cities, but they have a bigger problem – the Chinese are big on only getting married with parental approval subject to the man of the relationship having a good job, a home and a car. The first and last one are doable, but the Chinese real estate market is a nightmare for young people, especially in the big cities. This is what Chinese yuppies have told me over beer when I visit, so I am not just talking from reading reports.

  93. @Almost Missouri
    I think you mean "Herculean" rather than "Sisyphean".

    /pedantry

    You’re right, but his way works too if you are very pessimistic and think that Africa will always win out.

  94. Well, clearly Trump has the solution:

    In closed-door meetings at the United Nations in March, Trump administration officials pushed socially conservative views on women’s rights issues — including abstinence-based policies over information about contraception — that were further to the right than those expressed by most other countries present, including Russia and the representative for the Arab states, UN officials who attended the meetings told BuzzFeed News.

    The Trump officials’ approach at the UN meeting makes it clear that the administration intends to extend its views on abortion, contraception, and sexual education beyond US borders to an extent that is unusual even for Republican administrations.

    Throughout the two-week session, Trump administration officials discussed shifting international policy on women toward abstinence-oriented education and teaching women sexual “refusal skills.”

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/emaoconnor/un-meeting-trump-administration-abstinence?utm_term=.riDVZZqXJ#.dbZLYYbdg

    I suppose teaching African women “sexual refusal skills” might reduce the population somewhat as it could result in deaths of the women who refuse to put out on demand.

  95. @Tiny Duck
    your descendants (I know most of you losers don't have kids but bear with me) will be Black so get over it

    What a non sequitur or, in ebonics, you be stupid! By definition, anyone with no children will have no descendants- of any color.

  96. @Anon
    https://twitter.com/navyhato/status/986874019029762049

    This triggered me so badly.

    Asserting he set out to provide a “dispassionate” expert view on how Africa’s demographic explosion will affect Europe, Smith in his book has outlined a number of different scenarios he believes could emerge from the situation.

    “The most optimistic” of these — according to Le Figaro — is “Eurafrica”, which would see mass migration create a ‘welcoming’, multicultural Europe, which “would fully embrace being a ‘mixed-race land of immigration and interbreeding’”.

    This scenario would see the end of welfare states in Europe however, Smith said, pointing to the incompatibility of large-scale immigration and generous social programmes.

    Another possible scenario, ‘Fortress Europe’, is one which involves “a battle generally considered unwinnable, or even shameful” but which Smith points to as the case which strongly “has its reasons and its chances to succeed”

  97. Following up on my earlier post – for years there has been a marriage of convenience between the left and right against birth control for American Blacks.

    Given the birth rate of Black teenagers, obviously contraception and abortion services in the high schools are a logical response to this high birth rate.

    But, the Black ministers object to this on religious grounds, and Black nationalists yell genocide.

    The left is cowed so does not push birth control in high schools, because the left wants to “respect the culture” The right is controlled by religious zealots, so it does not push for birth control in the high schools.

    Very dysfunctional all around.

  98. @Almost Missouri
    This Stephen Smith* lecture is interesting.

    First, that it exists. It is widely understood, but little discussed, that in America, college "African Studies" programs are largely parking lots for the Affirmative Action admits who aren't cut out for normal college classes, where they can discuss secret hotep history about how blacks built the pyramids and invented science through their Greek puppet states. Imagine the shock of a student signing up for Dr. Smith's African Studies class only to find out that the class is an objective and dispassionate study of Africa! And taught by a bald white guy with an accent no less! What is he, some kind of racist?!? I'm surprised there are no lawsuits or boycotts yet.

    Second, he refers to a Black Death-like "pathogen encounter" in the late nineteenth century that, he says, wiped out a third to half of the West- and Central-African population. I've never heard of this before. Plus, it doesn't really make sense. The Americas were biologically isolated from Eurasia by vast oceans, so after the 15th century Columbian contact, a bow wave of New World plague from the catastrophic update to its microbial software makes sense. But Africa wasn't isolated. There were Arab slavers and traders in Africa since forever. Was internal travel within Africa so static that most of it was effectively isolated, even from microbes, until the 19th century? And anyway, how does he know the population figures, given that even modern African censuses are unreliable, and there weren't even unreliable censuses in SSA Africa two centuries ago?

    *Odd name for a French guy. Or is he German? PhD is from Berlin(!). Poly-linguistic Anglo?

    My guess would be that he’s referring to a rinderpest outbreak in the 1890’s. Killed 80-90% of cattle in much of central and southern Africa, along with large percentages of wild ungulates, causing widespread famine and depopulating much of the region.

  99. Europe and the US will be only 30% white but there still will be sjws saying there isn’t enough diversity.

  100. A non racial, mostly White but politically liberal Facebook group I’m part of, had a thread arguing for population control. One commentator kept blaming the Catholics. I simply posted the following link (an acceptable URL for most liberals) and made no comment. Upon posting the comments stopped, I wonder why?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependencies_by_total_fertility_rate#/media/File:Countriesbyfertilityrate.svg

    • Replies: @LeftLawyer
    How did Puerto Rico get in there with the 5th lowest birth rate in the world?!
    , @J.Ross
    This is a standard explanation among them: Roman Catholicism is preventing non-Catholic (and often non-Christian) populations, who happen to be much given over to celebration, from obtaining and using condoms. It's rubbish. It illustrates the standard leftist fortification of their worldview by turning a problem (minority impulse control) into an attack (this is all your fault, anyway!). Besides, hang out with hookers or look into the recently shut down world of semi-legal prostitutional advertising: black men don't wear condoms, black men blithely ignore commands and promises to wear condoms, it is by itself a huge and widely-attested issue that is enough to justify back guy bans, and at no point is the Catechism cited as a reason. They don't like condoms because it reduces sensation.
  101. @George Taylor
    A non racial, mostly White but politically liberal Facebook group I'm part of, had a thread arguing for population control. One commentator kept blaming the Catholics. I simply posted the following link (an acceptable URL for most liberals) and made no comment. Upon posting the comments stopped, I wonder why?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependencies_by_total_fertility_rate#/media/File:Countriesbyfertilityrate.svg

    How did Puerto Rico get in there with the 5th lowest birth rate in the world?!

  102. The policies of our hidden masters are so obviously leading to catastrophe that I have to wonder if overshoot and collapse isn’t their ultimate goal . This might leave them with a more manageable population (if there is a population at all) . And a relative abundance of resources which they could control and dole out .
    Humans are incapable of managing population growth on their own . Disease , famine and war are how population is managed . We will never outsmart nature .

    These guys laid the ground for an ongoing catastrophe that is expanding from Africa into Europe and the US :

    So was there more suffering in the world before this “progress” was made or less ?

  103. @George Taylor
    A non racial, mostly White but politically liberal Facebook group I'm part of, had a thread arguing for population control. One commentator kept blaming the Catholics. I simply posted the following link (an acceptable URL for most liberals) and made no comment. Upon posting the comments stopped, I wonder why?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependencies_by_total_fertility_rate#/media/File:Countriesbyfertilityrate.svg

    This is a standard explanation among them: Roman Catholicism is preventing non-Catholic (and often non-Christian) populations, who happen to be much given over to celebration, from obtaining and using condoms. It’s rubbish. It illustrates the standard leftist fortification of their worldview by turning a problem (minority impulse control) into an attack (this is all your fault, anyway!). Besides, hang out with hookers or look into the recently shut down world of semi-legal prostitutional advertising: black men don’t wear condoms, black men blithely ignore commands and promises to wear condoms, it is by itself a huge and widely-attested issue that is enough to justify back guy bans, and at no point is the Catechism cited as a reason. They don’t like condoms because it reduces sensation.

  104. @Almost Missouri
    This Stephen Smith* lecture is interesting.

    First, that it exists. It is widely understood, but little discussed, that in America, college "African Studies" programs are largely parking lots for the Affirmative Action admits who aren't cut out for normal college classes, where they can discuss secret hotep history about how blacks built the pyramids and invented science through their Greek puppet states. Imagine the shock of a student signing up for Dr. Smith's African Studies class only to find out that the class is an objective and dispassionate study of Africa! And taught by a bald white guy with an accent no less! What is he, some kind of racist?!? I'm surprised there are no lawsuits or boycotts yet.

    Second, he refers to a Black Death-like "pathogen encounter" in the late nineteenth century that, he says, wiped out a third to half of the West- and Central-African population. I've never heard of this before. Plus, it doesn't really make sense. The Americas were biologically isolated from Eurasia by vast oceans, so after the 15th century Columbian contact, a bow wave of New World plague from the catastrophic update to its microbial software makes sense. But Africa wasn't isolated. There were Arab slavers and traders in Africa since forever. Was internal travel within Africa so static that most of it was effectively isolated, even from microbes, until the 19th century? And anyway, how does he know the population figures, given that even modern African censuses are unreliable, and there weren't even unreliable censuses in SSA Africa two centuries ago?

    *Odd name for a French guy. Or is he German? PhD is from Berlin(!). Poly-linguistic Anglo?

    That time period he mentions roughly corresponds to the reign of King Leopold in the Congo. Conventional history tells us that millions of Congolese were worked to death in the rubber trade.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Leopold%27s_Ghost

    But if this disease theory is to be believed, then much as it was with the Indians, the Congolese were killed mostly by pathogens rather than bloodthirsty Europeans.

    • Replies: @gebrauchshund
    His description of it as a "pathogen encounter" is what made me think of the rinderpest outbreak. The pathogen did not directly affect the human population, but the indirect effects were devastating.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1890s_African_rinderpest_epizootic
  105. @Almost Missouri
    This Stephen Smith* lecture is interesting.

    First, that it exists. It is widely understood, but little discussed, that in America, college "African Studies" programs are largely parking lots for the Affirmative Action admits who aren't cut out for normal college classes, where they can discuss secret hotep history about how blacks built the pyramids and invented science through their Greek puppet states. Imagine the shock of a student signing up for Dr. Smith's African Studies class only to find out that the class is an objective and dispassionate study of Africa! And taught by a bald white guy with an accent no less! What is he, some kind of racist?!? I'm surprised there are no lawsuits or boycotts yet.

    Second, he refers to a Black Death-like "pathogen encounter" in the late nineteenth century that, he says, wiped out a third to half of the West- and Central-African population. I've never heard of this before. Plus, it doesn't really make sense. The Americas were biologically isolated from Eurasia by vast oceans, so after the 15th century Columbian contact, a bow wave of New World plague from the catastrophic update to its microbial software makes sense. But Africa wasn't isolated. There were Arab slavers and traders in Africa since forever. Was internal travel within Africa so static that most of it was effectively isolated, even from microbes, until the 19th century? And anyway, how does he know the population figures, given that even modern African censuses are unreliable, and there weren't even unreliable censuses in SSA Africa two centuries ago?

    *Odd name for a French guy. Or is he German? PhD is from Berlin(!). Poly-linguistic Anglo?

    I don’t know the full Stephen Smith story, but he was born in the U.S. and is now back in the U.S. but spent most of his career writing for French publications

    English actress Kristen Scott-Thomas is from an upscale British background (she’s related to Robert Scott, the doomed Antarctic explorer), but she went to Paris to work as an au pair at 19 and became kind of a French movie star. Jodie Foster, who went to a French-speaking school in Los Angeles, could have followed a similar path (she’s great in a supporting role in French in A Very Long Engagement) but didn’t need to because she was so successful in America.

  106. Anon[127] • Disclaimer says:

    This Stephen Smith guy is in the African Studies department at Duke!? He doesn’t sound like a native speaker, so was he born of French parents in the U.S. who quickly repatriated? At any rate, I wonder why he has written over a dozen books in French, but none in English. Maybe to keep his job? Nothing he says is that controversial, but neither was anything in The Bell Curve.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Lots of people have lots of reasons. For example, Raymond Chandler was born in Chicago to an American father and an Anglo-Irish mother. His parents broke up and his mother took him to live with her relatives in the Old Country. He tried to make in letters in Bloomsbury but wasn't making much progress, so he headed back to America and wound up in the oil business in LA.
    , @Bill B.
    The French have a continuing and quite keen interest in Africa - or at least the top and right-middle bits.

    There is no such interest in the UK and certainly not in the US. So maybe he is just following the line of enthusiasm.

    (The British do still take look at the subcontinent but not with that the zeal that comes from thinking you are still an actor on that stage.)
  107. @Hapalong Cassidy
    That time period he mentions roughly corresponds to the reign of King Leopold in the Congo. Conventional history tells us that millions of Congolese were worked to death in the rubber trade.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Leopold%27s_Ghost

    But if this disease theory is to be believed, then much as it was with the Indians, the Congolese were killed mostly by pathogens rather than bloodthirsty Europeans.

    His description of it as a “pathogen encounter” is what made me think of the rinderpest outbreak. The pathogen did not directly affect the human population, but the indirect effects were devastating.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1890s_African_rinderpest_epizootic

  108. @Anon
    This Stephen Smith guy is in the African Studies department at Duke!? He doesn't sound like a native speaker, so was he born of French parents in the U.S. who quickly repatriated? At any rate, I wonder why he has written over a dozen books in French, but none in English. Maybe to keep his job? Nothing he says is that controversial, but neither was anything in The Bell Curve.

    Lots of people have lots of reasons. For example, Raymond Chandler was born in Chicago to an American father and an Anglo-Irish mother. His parents broke up and his mother took him to live with her relatives in the Old Country. He tried to make in letters in Bloomsbury but wasn’t making much progress, so he headed back to America and wound up in the oil business in LA.

    • Replies: @Anon
    My favorite Raymond Chandler story is the letter he wrote to a writer he admired in which he says he learned to write by outlining a story or book of the writer's and then rewriting it and comparing it to the original. Crazy but brilliant. You study plotting by doing the outlining, and you study dialog and description by doing the rewriting.

    I really felt my age when I came across this podcast at the Verge in which two apparently well educated millennial women reveiw The Big Sleep for the Verge's book podcast. They really didn't know anything about Chandler, and they proceeded to do a critical gender theory style review of the book, shocked that the woman are one dimensional ("science fiction set in some insane alternate continuity").

    https://www.theverge.com/2014/1/21/5331310/the-verge-book-club-podcast-the-big-sleep-by-raymond-chandler
    , @ogunsiron
    I had heard of Stephen Smith (read one of his books on Africa) and knew that he was an american but hearing him speak surprised me. It's possible that he's been living in french for so long that he now speaks english with some kind of french accent.
  109. Anon[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Lots of people have lots of reasons. For example, Raymond Chandler was born in Chicago to an American father and an Anglo-Irish mother. His parents broke up and his mother took him to live with her relatives in the Old Country. He tried to make in letters in Bloomsbury but wasn't making much progress, so he headed back to America and wound up in the oil business in LA.

    My favorite Raymond Chandler story is the letter he wrote to a writer he admired in which he says he learned to write by outlining a story or book of the writer’s and then rewriting it and comparing it to the original. Crazy but brilliant. You study plotting by doing the outlining, and you study dialog and description by doing the rewriting.

    I really felt my age when I came across this podcast at the Verge in which two apparently well educated millennial women reveiw The Big Sleep for the Verge’s book podcast. They really didn’t know anything about Chandler, and they proceeded to do a critical gender theory style review of the book, shocked that the woman are one dimensional (“science fiction set in some insane alternate continuity”).

    https://www.theverge.com/2014/1/21/5331310/the-verge-book-club-podcast-the-big-sleep-by-raymond-chandler

  110. @Oliver Cromwell
    Female empowerment is how countries are socially sterilised today, so promoting it makes sense, probably more so than promoting anything else. Subsaharan states that have high birth rates do so because they're too chaotic to impose female empowerment. Women are never empowered except by distant male authority, so you need an effective government to make it work. In South Africa, where the government is feminist and kept semi-functional by whites, blacks have a fertility rate not that much higher than Europe.

    Female empowerment is how countries are socially sterilised today, so promoting it makes sense, probably more so than promoting anything else.

    I don’t hate any racial or ethnic group enough to wish to impose female empowerment upon them. It’s an idea that is just too evil and nihilistic.

  111. istevefan says:
    @AnotherDad

    Even the most oblique reference to the African population explosion is completely verboten in polite circles in America. So my hat’s off to the French for at least being able to mention something like this.
     
    The US was easier to roll, because slavery and the conquest of the natives started us out as multi-ethnic. Ergo "American" was multi-ethnic--even though the people who created the nation were not. From there it was just some verbal jousting and propaganda to get to "a nation of immigrants" and the lie that if they handed you a passport you were "American".

    But, i am a bit perplexed why the Euros have been so easy to roll.

    The French seem to be quite proud of their country and really like their culture. What the heck is to prevent, a French politician from saying the obvious:

    "A nation's character is defined by who is in it. I was born in France, love France and want to live ... in France. And for France to be France, it needs to be full of actual French people. If we French want to live in France, immigration must end. Otherwise we'll simply have some lines on a map called 'France' but which is not France at all. That would be a great tragedy. Immigration must be stopped--now."

    But, i am a bit perplexed why the Euros have been so easy to roll.

    The French seem to be quite proud of their country and really like their culture…

    The combined effects of the twentieth century’s destructive wars are probably to blame. Europeans were riding high at the end of the nineteenth century and were heads and shoulders above the rest of the world. They were very patriotic and competitive with one another, but then they walked into WW1, and the rest is history. William Lind once wrote that Europeans put a pistol to their heads in 1914 and collectively committed suicide.

    I’ve heard interesting discussions where people suggest that the best and bravest were killed off leaving behind what would become the cucks. I’ve heard people argue that watching the devastation of the 20th century caused Europeans to question their religious faith and notion of patriotism.

    Whatever is the specific cause, I think it is pretty clear that the cumulative effect of the 20th century made us question our civilization and has caused us pause.

  112. Anon[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri
    This Stephen Smith* lecture is interesting.

    First, that it exists. It is widely understood, but little discussed, that in America, college "African Studies" programs are largely parking lots for the Affirmative Action admits who aren't cut out for normal college classes, where they can discuss secret hotep history about how blacks built the pyramids and invented science through their Greek puppet states. Imagine the shock of a student signing up for Dr. Smith's African Studies class only to find out that the class is an objective and dispassionate study of Africa! And taught by a bald white guy with an accent no less! What is he, some kind of racist?!? I'm surprised there are no lawsuits or boycotts yet.

    Second, he refers to a Black Death-like "pathogen encounter" in the late nineteenth century that, he says, wiped out a third to half of the West- and Central-African population. I've never heard of this before. Plus, it doesn't really make sense. The Americas were biologically isolated from Eurasia by vast oceans, so after the 15th century Columbian contact, a bow wave of New World plague from the catastrophic update to its microbial software makes sense. But Africa wasn't isolated. There were Arab slavers and traders in Africa since forever. Was internal travel within Africa so static that most of it was effectively isolated, even from microbes, until the 19th century? And anyway, how does he know the population figures, given that even modern African censuses are unreliable, and there weren't even unreliable censuses in SSA Africa two centuries ago?

    *Odd name for a French guy. Or is he German? PhD is from Berlin(!). Poly-linguistic Anglo?

    Stephen Smith’s Rate My Professor ratings are really high. He assigns a lot of reading, expects you to read it, and grades hard. Yet only one student rated him below a 3.5, and all comments are positive, including fans who take more than one of his classes.

    http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1573217

    Here’s the dissenter:

    I do not recommend Smith or his class, Intro to African Studies. He is difficult to approach and a hard grader. This is supposed to be an intro class, and it was not taught or graded like one. Lectures were very all over the place and I often left feeling confused. If you take this class, attend every lecture or you will do poorly on tests.

    This was supposed to be a mick, but was actually hard! He expects you to show up! He said things in class that I didn’t already know!

    It occurs to me that it would be hilarious for a university to make all the African Studies classes super difficult.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    "It occurs to me that it would be hilarious for a university to make all the African Studies classes super difficult."

    Coach K would not be pleased if you tried this at Duke.

    , @Steve Sailer
    "It occurs to me that it would be hilarious for a university to make all the African Studies classes super difficult."

    Coach K would not be pleased if you tried this at Duke.

  113. @Anon
    Stephen Smith's Rate My Professor ratings are really high. He assigns a lot of reading, expects you to read it, and grades hard. Yet only one student rated him below a 3.5, and all comments are positive, including fans who take more than one of his classes.

    http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1573217

    Here's the dissenter:


    I do not recommend Smith or his class, Intro to African Studies. He is difficult to approach and a hard grader. This is supposed to be an intro class, and it was not taught or graded like one. Lectures were very all over the place and I often left feeling confused. If you take this class, attend every lecture or you will do poorly on tests.
     
    This was supposed to be a mick, but was actually hard! He expects you to show up! He said things in class that I didn't already know!

    It occurs to me that it would be hilarious for a university to make all the African Studies classes super difficult.

    “It occurs to me that it would be hilarious for a university to make all the African Studies classes super difficult.”

    Coach K would not be pleased if you tried this at Duke.

  114. @songbird
    I've wondered if the Boston Marathon result, both for the men's race and the women's race, was affected by the weather, both the cold and the wet. Sort of like how certain race horses are said to be mudders, able to run in wet conditions.

    I'm not sure about the heritage of the women's winner. Possibly Southern European, or possibly mixed, but she did not look very black. First American woman to win Boston in a very long time. probably not a coincidence that it was pouring rain and cold.

    She was born Desiree Davila in Chula Vista, California. Hispanic.

    • Replies: @songbird
    Thanks. Definitely looks Hispanic. I guess that wouldn't necessarily favor a cold thing, but it is curious how no blacks won. Could be wrong, but I think they have thinner skin. Possibly more chafing in wet conditions. Or else it could be something else like mitochondria. Amerinds definitely went through some cold selection.

    I know, I'm theorizing based on little info, but it is a curious question to me why no black won, in a very competitive race. I don't really know how typical or untypical that is, but it definitely seems untypical. Maybe distance runnning isn't as monolithic as sprinting...
  115. @Anon
    Stephen Smith's Rate My Professor ratings are really high. He assigns a lot of reading, expects you to read it, and grades hard. Yet only one student rated him below a 3.5, and all comments are positive, including fans who take more than one of his classes.

    http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1573217

    Here's the dissenter:


    I do not recommend Smith or his class, Intro to African Studies. He is difficult to approach and a hard grader. This is supposed to be an intro class, and it was not taught or graded like one. Lectures were very all over the place and I often left feeling confused. If you take this class, attend every lecture or you will do poorly on tests.
     
    This was supposed to be a mick, but was actually hard! He expects you to show up! He said things in class that I didn't already know!

    It occurs to me that it would be hilarious for a university to make all the African Studies classes super difficult.

    “It occurs to me that it would be hilarious for a university to make all the African Studies classes super difficult.”

    Coach K would not be pleased if you tried this at Duke.

  116. @The Z Blog
    If our rulers have thought about fertility in Africa, it is in the context of HIV in Africa. That would lead them to conclude it is hopeless to try and stop the African from breeding. The West invested a lot of time and money into fighting AIDS in Africa and has had little to show for it.

    There is an expression that was once popular with colonial officials, "Africa Wins Again." It was in response to the locals finding someway to undermine the best laid plans of Europeans. Short of deploying a chemical agent to cause infertility among Africans, nothing will be done to curb the African TFR, short of starvation and pestilence.

    It’s specifically the TFR in the sahelian african countries that seems untameable. The TFR of black caribbean populations is low and falling. Haitian TFR fell below 3.0 by 2015 and TFR for the Bahamas is below 2.00.

  117. @Steve Sailer
    Lots of people have lots of reasons. For example, Raymond Chandler was born in Chicago to an American father and an Anglo-Irish mother. His parents broke up and his mother took him to live with her relatives in the Old Country. He tried to make in letters in Bloomsbury but wasn't making much progress, so he headed back to America and wound up in the oil business in LA.

    I had heard of Stephen Smith (read one of his books on Africa) and knew that he was an american but hearing him speak surprised me. It’s possible that he’s been living in french for so long that he now speaks english with some kind of french accent.

  118. @Anon
    https://www.amren.com/news/2018/04/in-homogeneous-japan-an-african-born-university-president/

    I think Japan will be next.

    Japanese got a black Miss Japan. Japan's top runner is a black.

    Because blacks are more athletic, even a tiny number in Japan means they will take over sports. And then, Japanese will look up to blacks as their idolic national heroes. And then, Japan will be showered with praise by the West. And then other Asian nations will imitate because they live for approval from the superior West.

    Jungaru Feebah was a big thing in Japan and even awarded with literary prize.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Yamada

    According to Linh Dinh, Vietnam got an African to run for Vietnam. And South Korea got an Kenyan to run in Olympics.
    So, it means blacks will become idols there too as in the West, all the more so since stuff like spread of K-pop feminize native men to be cucks.

    China might withstand it, like Russia may be the only white nation left in the long run.

    Not a chance. The Japanese have ethnicity and nationality completely bound together. Korean communities that have been in Japan for generations are not regarded as fully Japanese. Japan hosts migrants from Indonesia and southeast Asia but permanent residency is very difficult to obtain. About the only way for a gaijin to become a permanent resident is to marry in. Japan practices a right-of-return for ethnic Japanese no matter how many generations separated from Japan they are.

  119. London is now entering the dystopian phase of globalist tyranny (for the proles anyway) but as the African/Islamic Hijra continues one can bet good money that at some point the emperor elite will suddenly decide that the victims can no longer suffer to live in this hell hole and must be inserted into the privileged white communities of small town Britain. (As in the US.) Place your bets now.

    Note how the Muslim girl blames gentrification and others blame alienation and nothing to do in the world’s premier ‘global’ city:

    (seen on fdesouche.com)

  120. @Anon
    This Stephen Smith guy is in the African Studies department at Duke!? He doesn't sound like a native speaker, so was he born of French parents in the U.S. who quickly repatriated? At any rate, I wonder why he has written over a dozen books in French, but none in English. Maybe to keep his job? Nothing he says is that controversial, but neither was anything in The Bell Curve.

    The French have a continuing and quite keen interest in Africa – or at least the top and right-middle bits.

    There is no such interest in the UK and certainly not in the US. So maybe he is just following the line of enthusiasm.

    (The British do still take look at the subcontinent but not with that the zeal that comes from thinking you are still an actor on that stage.)

  121. @PiltdownMan

    Ted Turner was also an enthusiast, but we never hear much from him lately. (Kind of surprising in view of how loud and brash he was once was. You would barely know he is still alive.)
     
    Maybe he's been busy?

    From Wikipedia:


    In a television interview with Piers Morgan on May 3, 2012, Turner said he had four girlfriends, which he acknowledged was complicated but nonetheless easier than being married.

     

    In a television interview with Piers Morgan on May 3, 2012, Turner said he had four girlfriends, which he acknowledged was complicated but nonetheless easier than being married.

    …to Jane Fonda. Yes, I can understand that.

  122. @AnotherDad

    Even the most oblique reference to the African population explosion is completely verboten in polite circles in America. So my hat’s off to the French for at least being able to mention something like this.
     
    The US was easier to roll, because slavery and the conquest of the natives started us out as multi-ethnic. Ergo "American" was multi-ethnic--even though the people who created the nation were not. From there it was just some verbal jousting and propaganda to get to "a nation of immigrants" and the lie that if they handed you a passport you were "American".

    But, i am a bit perplexed why the Euros have been so easy to roll.

    The French seem to be quite proud of their country and really like their culture. What the heck is to prevent, a French politician from saying the obvious:

    "A nation's character is defined by who is in it. I was born in France, love France and want to live ... in France. And for France to be France, it needs to be full of actual French people. If we French want to live in France, immigration must end. Otherwise we'll simply have some lines on a map called 'France' but which is not France at all. That would be a great tragedy. Immigration must be stopped--now."

    You didn’t address that Steve talked about not only the high birth rate of Africans, but European and American intervention to humanely lower the birthrates. This may stem from an altruistic impulse. Or, it may derive from a conviction that the most effective route to prevent immigration is actually sponsorship of birth control in the African nations.

    But, of course, the ethos and all the instincts of the African individuals are to plow any resources into having more children. I’d like to know of any instances where birth control efforts in sub-Saharan Africa had any measurable effects. There may be a decline in the African birth rate sometime in the future due to the natural genetic deterioration of a population once the environmental selection pressures are removed. But, by then, the Europe of the white Europeans will be long gone.

  123. @PiltdownMan

    I wouldn’t be surprised if when Macron and Bill Gates get together, they talk about this in private. Deep down, Gates is an old-fashioned rich WASP population controller in the old Rockefeller/Bush mode.
     
    The Gates funded center at Johns Hopkins is named The Bill Melinda Gates Institute for Population and Reproductive Health.

    That's unusual these days.

    Unlike in the 1960s and 1970s, when the population explosion was what concerned left liberals busied themselves with when talking about issues facing poor countries, explicit mention of population studies alongside contraception is now taboo. On the left, this is because it is no longer pc for rich white Western nations to dictate to poor, non-white nations about population. That's practically eugenics. On the religious right, funding of reproductive health/fertility clinics is taboo.

    But I'm quite sure that Bill and Melinda Gates, who grew up in that earlier time, keep population growth very much in mind, even as they go about funding "health initiatives" in the Third World.

    There is truth about what you say about both the left and right. Pat Buchanan and Laura Ingrham are good on illegal immigration but because their both devoted Catholics they opposed any birth control as abortion.

  124. @Joe Schmoe
    She was born Desiree Davila in Chula Vista, California. Hispanic.

    Thanks. Definitely looks Hispanic. I guess that wouldn’t necessarily favor a cold thing, but it is curious how no blacks won. Could be wrong, but I think they have thinner skin. Possibly more chafing in wet conditions. Or else it could be something else like mitochondria. Amerinds definitely went through some cold selection.

    I know, I’m theorizing based on little info, but it is a curious question to me why no black won, in a very competitive race. I don’t really know how typical or untypical that is, but it definitely seems untypical. Maybe distance runnning isn’t as monolithic as sprinting…

  125. @anon
    If Germany and Japan won WWII Europe would be white in 2118. Instead they lost so Europe will be Black and America will be Mestizo. Remember children: the good guys won.

    If Germany and Japan won WWII Europe would be white in 2118.

    Not necessarily. Let’s say Germany won and Hitler died in 1965 or something. Who’s to say that Germany would not then have gone through a similar fit of remorse to the one it went through, with social concerns taking on a distinctive ‘new left’ tinge? In that scenario, Germany could have dewhitened even more quickly.

  126. @JollyOldSoul
    The nerve all of those Poles and Frenchmen and Brits must have had not to realize that the Germans were really just dropping Bombs of Love.

    The nerve all of those Poles and Frenchmen and Brits must have had not to realize that the Germans were really just dropping Bombs of Love.

    The irony of a Brit complaining about WWII bombing. Priceless.

  127. If the world gets on the stick and helps sub-Saharan Africa achieve what Bangladesh has achieved and thus in 2100 there are, say, only 2 billion instead of 4 billion blacks, my guess is that the 2 billion blacks would be grateful.

    That line serves a useful rhetorical purpose, but the simulations I’ve run make it extremely, extremely doubtful that the Sub-Saharan population could be capped at two billion by 2100. It’s virtually a lock to be at least three billion, even in scenarios in which fertility rapidly drops. In more pedestrian fertility reduction scenarios, four billion is within easy reach.

    Part of me is kinda hoping for four billion, to be perfectly honest. Africans will be close to 50% of the earth’s population at that point, and rapidly radiating out of Africa, and that would completely take the air out of the “discriminating against minorities” logic of non-Africans doing everything we can to keep them out, since there will be vastly more Africans than any other single racial group.

    Of course, it would be nice if the Earth came to its senses without requiring the population of blacks to hit four billion. And I think there’s some hope this will happen, with the rise of a vastly more racially realistic China to global prominence.

  128. It’s all about leveling the playing field. Nothing serious will ever be done to address the population bomb and population transfer. It’s part of the plan.

    Europe has been embarrassingly contiguous for too long. It needs to be brought down into the cannibal’s pot, otherwise its prosperity, peacefulness and cultural coherence will embarrass the rest of us in the multicultisphere. For too long, people would go away on holiday to Europe and come back raving about it. It’s so unlike home. People are happy, calm and so very alike. They have things in common.

    If we’re all at each other’s throats and looking over our shoulders for the new scab labour and the new knifeman, we won’t notice so much. Break the labour. Break the welfare net. Break the culture. The better to rule us.

    More people, more sales, more prisons, more police, more of the same so we can all be all the same. The decisionmakers don’t care about the blowback. Soon the noose will be cinched so tight that it won’t even matter.

  129. I was looking at the recent numbers for asylum requests and acceptance, Germany accepted 60% of more than a half a million followed by France, Italy, Austria, and Sweden.

    A lot of you have yet to accept the fact that western Europe’s goose is cooked, it doesn’t matter if there’s four billon Africans or four thousand. They all want to come to Europe and they will because no one will stop them, worst case scenario Europe will be in a perpetual state of racial conflict and you will have millions of poor and rich Muslims Arab and Africans terrorizing Europeans caught in the middle.

    Not unless by some miracle Europeans wake up and begin some kind of uprising, all the talk about massive deportations or stopping immigration is wishful thinking.

    Welcome to the brave new world..

  130. @Allison
    I think Bill Gates has maybe three children? I just read an article about his daughter competitively jumping horses I think.

    Yes, as far as I know, Bill and Melinda have three children.

  131. Anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @Oliver Cromwell
    Female empowerment is how countries are socially sterilised today, so promoting it makes sense, probably more so than promoting anything else. Subsaharan states that have high birth rates do so because they're too chaotic to impose female empowerment. Women are never empowered except by distant male authority, so you need an effective government to make it work. In South Africa, where the government is feminist and kept semi-functional by whites, blacks have a fertility rate not that much higher than Europe.

    Female empowerment only works for non-African populations. Non-African populations are descended from people who evolved under conditions in which female dependence on male labor, like hunting or farming, was necessary for survival and reproduction. They evolved in an environment in which male labor was more valuable and the major criterion for mating and reproduction. If you take such populations and introduce “female empowerment”, male labor decreases in value on average and the supply of more valuable male labor and thus acceptable mates for women decreases.

    On the other hand, African populations evolved in an environment in which male labor was not necessary for survival and reproduction. The climate enabled women to survive and reproduce without male labor and assistance. They effectively already have “female empowerment”. They are adapted to having many children under such conditions. Thus introducing more “female empowerment” will do little to reduce fertility there, unlike among non-African populations.

  132. @Intelligent Dasein
    This is a non-problem.

    We are rapidly approaching the point whereat it no longer makes any sense for anybody to emigrate, as the cost/benefit analysis does not support it. Why move to a foreign continent where conditions are no better when you can just stay where you already know the place and the people?

    Also, Africa's projected population growth over the next century is completely fictitious. Africa's population growth is entirely dependent on Western aid; and as the West will shortly no longer be able even to support itself, it surely will not support Africa as well. Those billions of Africans will never be born, so there is no need to worry about them.

    Finally, anybody who thinks that Africa will "develop" and stabilize into a high-income, high-education, low-fertility socioeconomic pattern needs to get real. Africa possesses neither the physical capital nor the human capital to do this. It has no access to credit, nothing to trade except depleting mineral reserves, and nothing to offer the rest of the world. If Africans in the West have not WASPified themselves in 500 years, it beggars belief to think that Africans in Africa will do so. Besides, the idea that the very poison which killed the West ought to be recommended to Africa as a cure for its particular "ills" is troubling and perverse. It is actually quite the other way around. The West needs to beef up its fertility and stop wasting its time with pointless "development" if it is to survive.

    The best, sanest, most successful, and most natural African policy is to simply forget about it, cut it off, consign it to terra incognita. There is absolutely nothing to be gained by meddling with it. We do not need Africa and we cannot help Africa. The time has come to just leave it be. Anything else is an ego trip.

    That’s harsh. But probably largely on point. I suppose that there’s a good chance that the Chinese will take Africa over and deal with it in their own way. Otherwise, let the big die-off happen and let the Africans go back to subsistence agriculture.

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