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From The London Telegraph:
Met Police recruit ‘functionally illiterate in English’ in attempt to improve diversity
HM Inspectorate says while it is ‘noble and right’ recruitment should not be at the expense of standards
By Martin Evans,
CRIME EDITOR
26 January 2023 • 9:00pmApplicants to the police who can barely write in English are being accepted by the Met in an attempt to improve diversity, one of His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary has warned.
HMI Matt Parr said that while it was entirely “noble and right” that Scotland Yard was aiming to be more representative of the community it policed, it should not be at the expense of standards.
In 2021, Dame Cressida Dick, the then Met Commissioner, declared it was the force’s aspiration to recruit 40 per cent of its officers from the black and ethnic minority communities by 2023.
But despite the Government’s programme to boost the number of officers across the country, which has seen a significant recruitment campaign across policing, the number of BAME officers in London remains at less than 17 per cent.
And as we all know, the London Bobbies are the worst police force in the world so they need to be fixed.
Wait, actually, they’ve been the most admired police force for the last 150+ years.
Mr Parr said setting ambitious targets both around the number of police recruits and diversity was understandable, but that it increased the risk of lowering standards and recruiting people who were not suited to the job.
He said there was even anecdotal evidence that some applicants were being accepted even though they were “functionally illiterate in English” and had difficulty writing up crime reports.
Mr Parr told The Telegraph: “We completely support the idea that London – which will likely be a minority white city in the next decade or so – should not be policed by an overwhelmingly white police force.
“That is clearly wrong. It is not just wrong from a legitimacy point of view, and from an appearances point of view, it is also operationally wrong because it means that the Met does not get insight into some of the communities it polices and that has caused problems in the past.
“So we completely support the drive to make the Met much more representative of the community it serves than it is at the moment.”
But he added: “We have a risk of recruiting the wrong people. You will hear people from their training school say that they are taking in significant numbers of people who are, on paper at least, functionally illiterate in English and therefore just writing up crime reports has become quite difficult in some areas.”
… A review of recruitment and vetting by His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary Fire and Rescue Services (HMICFRS) published in November warned that as many as ten per cent of police officers should never have been admitted into the police.
But he said when it came to vetting he was not advocating a “zero tolerance” approach to minor misdemeanours, but rather one of managed risk.
He said young black men tended to have a greater involvement with the criminal justice system in London than any other group but that did not mean they should be barred from the police.
“I think the Met are doing absolutely the right thing in taking a risk on those people, they have got to, and it is the right thing to do. It is not only a necessary thing but it is a noble aim for all sorts of reasons.”
But he said the recent HMI review of vetting suggested that in some cases the police were taking too much risk with candidates or were failing to put safety measures in place to mitigate the risk.
He said: “Everyone is trying to do the right thing here and they are all acting from noble motives by and large but the upshot is they are taking too much risk with people and where they are taking risk – and I would support them in taking risk – they are not managing it properly as well.”
David Spencer, a former Met officer, who is now head of crime and justice at the Policy Exchange think tank, agreed that the pressure to meet the uplift and diversity targets increased the risk that standards would be lowered.
He said: “There is a tension between volume, quality and diversity and something has to give. Someone has to ask what is the most important of those three things and you have to be really careful because once you have recruited someone they are possibly going to be there for the next 30 years.
“When you are making a risk assessment, if you are trying to hit a target your capacity for risk is going to increase.”
Does anybody have any idea how to diversify police forces without lowering quality? The U.S. has been trying for over a half century, but it’s turned out that there aren’t any One Weird Trick to recruiting better blacks. The only thing that actually works is substantially raising pay to lure the better blacks away from all the other employers who are looking for competent blacks.
It could be argued that police work ought to be society’s highest priority for employing the scare resource of competent blacks. But, in practice, nobody ever says, “Yeah, we’ll have to put up with fewer black firemen and astrophysicists (sorry, Chanda Prescod-Weinstein!) to ensure more competent blacks become cops.” Once your society gets started down the affirmative action path, it becomes almost impossible to politely point out that the supply of competent blacks is not infinitely elastic.
In other news from The Telegraph:
Plumbers’ ‘thick white male’ image could derail UK net zero ambitions
Experts raise concerns that image problems in plumbing could stop recruitment of people needed to install heat pumps
By Joe Pinkstone,
SCIENCE CORRESPONDENT
28 January 2023 • 2:34pm
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If I gained power in the US, one of my first foreign policy decisions would be to invade the UK and completely remove the political class from power. There is absolutely nothing redeemable about British politicians.
In fact, make it as similar as possible to your occupation of Japan after WWII.
And then when you start work on the foreigners ... don't forget the Canadians.Replies: @AndrewR
Just about all these problems stem from not accepting blacks for what they are and treating them accordingly.
We don’t get obsessed with making five year olds brain surgeons or elderly ladies into professional hockey players — why doe it make sense to keep trying to make the average black into something that he’s not?
Steve, you are nearly always quite generous to the British, but I am not sure our police have deserved admiration for a long time now, especially not in London.
Anyway, my favourite police story at the moment is the death of the unfortunate Mr Tyre at the hands of a group of black thugs, er sorry, police.
Note to all journalists on the NYT, Guardian etc. on the use of the word black.
Mr Tyre was black ; the perpetrators are not.
“He said young black men tended to have a greater involvement with the criminal justice system in London than any other group but that did not mean they should be barred from the police”
This appears to be saying they should – and are – recruiting black criminals. But not white criminals, presumably. I don’t see how having criminals as police is supposed to raise Black & Ethnic Minority confidence in the police. This is the kind of magical thinking you get from white left-liberal diversicrats. Actual regular people of all races want honest competent police a lot more than they want police of the same race as them.
Quite a lot of Saying The Quiet Part Out Loud in that article.
“Does anybody have any idea how to diversify police forces without lowering quality?”
It’s often possible to increase numbers somewhat without lowering quality. Until you hit a tipping point and quality collapses. If a career was traditionally not attractive to a particular group, seen as unwelcoming, you can often change perceptions in that group and get high quality individuals to apply. But if you keep pushing, eventually you start lowering recruitment standards. I saw this effect with University students in the 1990s, and female MPs in the early 2000s. With the students I was teaching, the government increased University numbers from 17% to 30% of the population without a noticeable effect on quality. But then when they went over 30% there was a sudden precipitous drop in quality as they started barrel scraping. I’d expect a similar effect with police recruitment.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64225852
Maybe some Anglophobe American used Harry as a cudgel to beat the Brits with? That doesn't mean he likes the cudgel.
But no. Americans simply do not care--Harry's buffoonery is not our problem--so we aren't pouring out abuse. But generally, they strike normie Americans as self-absorbed, spoiled whiners. The only people who might be "sympathetic" are clueless celebrity obsessed girls like the writer.
Personally, my take on Harry is simply: "one of the dumbest dudes of all time". Handed the golden ticket, to an easy comfortable life and pick among a millions of luscious, willing young women and cashed it in for ... Megan. LOL.Replies: @The Alarmist, @AndrewR
Telegraph has got a lot more woke in recent years. These days people don’t go straight from school to the Glossop Weekly Advertiser, they go to college to study journalism and be indoctrinated at the same time.
PS – search the news for “Novoaydar” – 14 dead and IIRC 28 injured when HIMARS hits a Lugansk hospital, I can find precisely 2 media reports.
Do you like the logic, though? We’ve let in so many third world migrants that we need to fire all the white people so that the third world migrants feel more comfortable as they assume majority status.
And “Replacement Theory” is just White Supremacy.
And the end point if ‘having a police force that resembles its community’ is surely that police look like the criminals they (no longer, so much) chase? The majority of the whole criminal production line, from offence to arrest to incarceration then becomes black. No more white police on innocent black perps outrage would be a small price to pay for this virtuous end point? If then this burgeoning ‘diverse’ enterprise could only be divested to some remote region – say the Outer Hebrides in the U.K. case – then all would be well (except the indigenous white sheep community off the west Scottish coast might justifiably bleat a little).
https://archive.is/dVvbs
That's good news! Anything that slows down the zero carbon fanatics and their zillionaire supporters.
Similar issue: will auto fatality rates continue to increase because people are driving more dangerously (as discussed in recent iSteve posts), or decrease because of improved AI-driven safety features and self-driving cars?Replies: @Dmon
“Why aren’t women and minorities lining up to do unpleasant jobs that require skill, working alone, and persistence? We desk jockeys have no idea.”
Met Police diversification.
The simple answer is Indian Police. Historically there was a height problem but minimum height limits have been relaxed a lot over past 50 years as Police spend more time in cars, though it is still rare to find an English Policeman with a gun (outside airports and tourist spots / terrorist targets where they are placed as deterrents).
But there is little Indian crime for the Indian police officers to give insights to. And the culture demands that bright Indians become doctors and teh nearly bright ones (almost all the rest) become pharmacists, with local doctors surgeries co-developing with an associated pharmacist.
Many of the Poles have gone home after Brexit.
Did another prediction in literature and cinema come true?
I’m thinking, of course, as the buddies-turned-bobbies in “Clockwork Orange”
One interesting thing I do not yet have a good opinion about: the long (and arguably unnecessary) scene in the warden's office just before Alex begins receiving the Ludovico Technique. It's a very tightly planned film and pretty much every scene is non-removable except that one.
This appears to be saying they should - and are - recruiting black criminals. But not white criminals, presumably. I don't see how having criminals as police is supposed to raise Black & Ethnic Minority confidence in the police. This is the kind of magical thinking you get from white left-liberal diversicrats. Actual regular people of all races want honest competent police a lot more than they want police of the same race as them.Replies: @ic1000, @al gore rhythms
> This is the kind of magical thinking you get from white left-liberal diversicrats.
Quite a lot of Saying The Quiet Part Out Loud in that article.
“Replacing gas boilers and switching to heat pumps is a central tenet of the Government’s ambitions for the UK to be carbon neutral by 2050”
That’s good news! Anything that slows down the zero carbon fanatics and their zillionaire supporters.
I don’t know anyone, of any nation, who thinks anything good about Harry or Meghan—the so-called “Sussexes”, though neither one may ever have been there.
Maybe some Anglophobe American used Harry as a cudgel to beat the Brits with? That doesn’t mean he likes the cudgel.
Our society is trying to overcome lowering quality/quantity of the workforce with technology. It will work for a while, but eventually the technology itself will need maintenance or replacement. Who will do it? AI-driven robots?
Similar issue: will auto fatality rates continue to increase because people are driving more dangerously (as discussed in recent iSteve posts), or decrease because of improved AI-driven safety features and self-driving cars?
https://www.npr.org/2023/01/25/1151435033/a-robot-was-scheduled-to-argue-in-court-then-came-the-jail-threats
"A British man who planned to have a "robot lawyer" help a defendant fight a traffic ticket has dropped the effort after receiving threats of possible prosecution and jail time.
...The first-ever AI-powered legal defense was set to take place in California on Feb. 22, but not anymore.
...
As word got out, an uneasy buzz began to swirl among various state bar officials, according to Browder. He says angry letters began to pour in.
"Multiple state bar associations have threatened us," Browder said. "One even said a referral to the district attorney's office and prosecution and prison time would be possible."
In particular, Browder said one state bar official noted that the unauthorized practice of law is a misdemeanor in some states punishable up to six months in county jail."
The UK Military is busy monitoring citizens who questioned the Covid Lockdowns. I guess these are the “free democratic” societies we have to protect?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11687675/Army-spied-lockdown-critics-Sceptics-including-Peter-Hitchens-suspected-watched.html
‘ the most admired police fore in the world ‘.
Well, perhaps up to a few years ago, before the Wayne Couzens affair blew up.
Surely, the Wayne Couzens case is the single most egregious case of outright abuse of police powers that has ever occurred in the Metropolitan Police’s near 200 year old history.
Couzens – who is white – used his police warrant card to arrest and abduct a completely innocent young woman one Sarah Everard, who was walking home one night, two years ago, during the lockdown. Sarah Everard was raped and murdered by Couzens, who burnt her body.
The other week news broke of a serial sex offender being employed as a Metropolitan Police constable.
The shock and anger caused by the Couzens affair, not least by thousands of good, honest and decent Met. Officers, who must also be outraged by association, cannot be underestimated.
“[I]t means that the Met does not get insight into some of the communities it polices and that has caused problems in the past”. What about insight into the: “murderer”, “rapist”, “robber” and “terrorist” communities? Doesn’t each of these “communities” deserve representation on the Met! Viva diversity!
I suppose you could say the London Police, themselves, opened the door a long time ago.
Don’t call me Dim no more, officer call me.
And by a happy coincidence the Greeks at the Duran look at the flood of scandals engulfing the UK.
https://theduran.locals.com/post/3436916/multiple-scandals-hit-the-uk
Who’d have thought that importing the third world doesn’t stop with the hominids?
It would be far better to get the population back to resembling the force, rather than vice versa.
Two Albanians named Hengistik and Horsik were recently hired. Even better, they’ve sent to their homeland for a veritable army of plumbers, or plunderers, the story was not clear on that last part.
Swirling down the toilet, we are.
I guess I could live with that. Some requests though: don’t make us into a US state, and leave us our traditional institutions including the monarchy (yes, I know they’re useless, but a lot of things in an old country are useless; as long as they don’t do any harm and don’t cost too much, that’s fine); but ruthlessly abolish the BBC and the NHS.
In fact, make it as similar as possible to your occupation of Japan after WWII.
One of the core fallacies afflicting Western nations decision making is the assumption that their culture and the resulting outcomes are just ‘plug and play’. This sort of blank slatism has led to massive errors that upset otherwise relatively well-functioning local cultures that everyone now has to pretend are still more or less intact, even as quality of life and order visibly declines.
It seems like Europe bought into the US glorification of the ‘melting pot’ society, ignoring the fact that for most of US history this meant an influx of immigrants from Europe, not from colonies in Asia and Africa in which people have no historic or cultural connection to their new home at all, and often don’t care to try to form one either. They just want the stuff that comes with it.
When the US began to deviate from this – the Twin Cities influx of Somalis being a good example – the previously admired culture declined, large parts of the cities are now write-offs, and the original population is saddled with a largely unproductive and unassimilated population that sponges off everyone else – forever.
Then they will keep hiring illiterate 3rd worlders. Saying it is “noble and right” is automatically ceding the argument to the anti-merit side because it’s accepting that the goal of diversity is above all others, such as having competent police who won’t systematically cover up Paki rape gangs
Oh wait, that’s happening anyways. So Matt Parr can pat himself on the back for the “noble and right” goal of covering up the rape of White girls by paki savages
Does anybody (outside of us here) ever question the principle pillar of modern faith that every institution in Western Civilization must become “diverse” (read: populated by few-to-no white people)?
All so tiresome.
“Algeria is back that way, sir.”
Does anybody have any idea how to diversify any institution for diversity without lowering quality? ……FIFY
I wonder if PC Hussain Chehab was one of the diversity hires?
He was already having sex with a 14 year old before he was recruited at what must gave been age 18 or so. Age 19, he was appointed a “schools officer” – a surprising number of inner-city schools have a police presence.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11672611/New-shame-Met-Police-schools-officer-22-admitted-having-sex-girl-14.html
Or–just had a great idea–don’t do that!
This is just embarrassing and repulsive. One of the great cities of the Western World stripped from its native people and turned into a multicultural dump.
The most important factor has been the incredible sway and dominance of America–media, academic, government–and hence this toxic brew of American minoritarianism. (The further you are from English language media, the better.) But obviously, the with the Brits–and the French–the colonial legacy is a huge factor as well. (Imperialism has gifted us a legacy of destruction … and just keeps on giving.)
But sometimes it seems like Europeans–living post-War dependent on American power–looked at the American debacle and instead of thinking and saying the obvious and wise “Let’s not do that!” instead arrogantly thought “Those stupid cowboy Americans. We are more sophisticated. We could handle racial diversity no problem.”
Be fair, he might be telling him the quickest way to back where he came from.
Note the height of the officer – police recruitment Before The Fall tended to focus on height. A tall man in uniform can often stop trouble before it starts.
Not quite so if you’re a 25-stone woman.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/taunted-25-stone-wpc-loses-869716
Or a man with a 40-inch waist
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/782127/scotland-police-officers-one-in-five-obese
The British royal family and the British people were at first absolutely delighted to have a woman of color showing her face in the Royal Family as a symbol of modern multiracial Britain.
But then she started to show her black ass, and they didn’t like her quite as much.
Even as a moderately successful professional soap opera actress on TV, she was completely unable to learn her lines and play the part of an affirmative action Duchess on one or two days a week.
If you do a good job with what should be your number #1 domestic priority–cleaning out the US’s parasitic verbalist overclass that pushes and propagandizes this crap … a of lot these other Western nations will start improving. America is ground zero. Both the source of this cancerous minoritarian ideology and its prime spewer. Stop us from pumping out this toxic effluent and everything gets better.
And then when you start work on the foreigners … don’t forget the Canadians.
By whom? Jean Charles de Menezes?
Cressida Dick sounds more like a leaky English dessert in a tin can than a London supercop.
You would be wecome.
I don’t know why any competent White would ever go into policing these days, particularly in any city that’s got 10% or more black population. Virtually any interaction with a bro or ho that goes south would, more likely than not, result in a massively negative outcome in multiple different ways. Way too much risk over and above the normal stuff, so needless to say, the best and brightest (even generally competent) won’t be participating. Thus the standards, as with everything involving blacks, will naturally decline.
I’ll say. Wait, which bit?
Nice how they slip that in there. Seems, I dunno, historically significant or something. Anyway, from what I’ve heard from people who’ve been recently, it’s a fait accompli.
The Metropolitan Police is no longer much admired in the UK.
Two recent scandals have damaged public confidence. During the COVID lockdown, PC Wayne Couzens arrested Sarah Everard on false pretences, kidnapped, raped and murdered her. This month, PC David Carrick was convicted as a serial rapist.
In November 2022, Metropolitan Police Commissioner Mark Rowley admitted that there are 100 serving officers who cannot be fired but are not trusted to interact with the public.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/mark-rowley-metropolitan-police-met-home-secretary-b1042274.html
Other officers were appointed despite having a criminal record.
A draft report from Operation Tiberius listed 61 officers who were suspected of corruption in East and NE London, along with their alleged contacts in organised crime gangs. The 2006 report was leaked unredacted to the internet, and gave the names, addresses and telephone numbers of the officers and criminals. Operation Tiberius was the amalgamation of several inquiries, and was created because detectives found that police corruption had made it impossible to investigate gang-related murders in East London.
Needless to say, the recruitment of officers from ethnic minorities will do nothing to help this state of affairs. If the police want to be more selective in their recruitment, they will not be able to do so unless they pay officers more.
On the positive side, the Met somehow manages to keep London’s homicide rate as low as 1.6 per 100,000 people per year (compared to a national figure of 1.1; London is 15% black and 46% non-white). The picture is not entirely bad.
In my opinion, Americans do not like Harry and Megan because we do not like rich people whining about how bad their lives are. Harry is completely out of touch about how most people have to live. I was amazed how he thought viewers should feel sorry for him when he was giving his interview in his lavish garden and beautiful house which most Americans will never come close to owning. He is out of touch with reality.
You can't reduce all this to money; how much of that wealth would Harry trade for a non-broken family and live mother?
Yeah, about that … that seemed to have died 15 years ago. They are now the wokest police force on the planet.
What was absurdist in 1970 is mainstream today.Replies: @Anon
This sounds a bit ominous but you have a point. There is a tendency for countries with smaller populations that are on the edge of the western world to be more woke than those in the centre. Compare Ireland to the UK, Canada to the US, New Zealand vs Australia, Sweden. In each of these countries they could have looked at how things had gone at the centre of western civilization and said no, instead they they attempt to outdo the US in wokeness.
Similar issue: will auto fatality rates continue to increase because people are driving more dangerously (as discussed in recent iSteve posts), or decrease because of improved AI-driven safety features and self-driving cars?Replies: @Dmon
In the future, every job will be done by AI-driven robots. Except one.
https://www.npr.org/2023/01/25/1151435033/a-robot-was-scheduled-to-argue-in-court-then-came-the-jail-threats
“A British man who planned to have a “robot lawyer” help a defendant fight a traffic ticket has dropped the effort after receiving threats of possible prosecution and jail time.
…The first-ever AI-powered legal defense was set to take place in California on Feb. 22, but not anymore.
…
As word got out, an uneasy buzz began to swirl among various state bar officials, according to Browder. He says angry letters began to pour in.
“Multiple state bar associations have threatened us,” Browder said. “One even said a referral to the district attorney’s office and prosecution and prison time would be possible.”
In particular, Browder said one state bar official noted that the unauthorized practice of law is a misdemeanor in some states punishable up to six months in county jail.”
Might as well hire retards…
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Previous to the Wayne Couzens affair, the worst the Met. did was the 1970s ‘Porn Squad’ corruption scandal, which revolved around Jimmy Humphreys a leading Soho pornographer.
Back in the early ’70s hardcore pornography was illegal in the UK, and extremely scarce – a far cry from our present porn saturated times. As a consequence, *enormous* sums of money accrued to the Soho pornographers – even allowing for inflation, which has increased UK prices at least ten fold, the sums being raked in by the Soho porn fraternity were massive.
Thus, enormous bribes were paid to the Porn Squad to look the other way ….
A time when UK police cars were Rover P6s, flared trousers, kipper ties, longish hair big sideburns etc were de riguer, and The Sweeney was the biggest thing on TV.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/10/07/29213128-8405363-Metropolitan_Police_officers_take_a_knee_at_yesterday_s_Black_Li-a-12_1591771155118.jpg
https://secretldn.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Pride-Police-London-sebastiankupski.jpgReplies: @Anonymous
I remember a sketch in the first Monty Python movie in which a platoon of soldiers, in the midst of a bout regimental drilling and ‘square bashing’ suddenly broke into a full scale gay song and dance act.
What was absurdist in 1970 is mainstream today.
Don’t know whether she’s a clueless Brit or some clueless American hire.
But no. Americans simply do not care–Harry’s buffoonery is not our problem–so we aren’t pouring out abuse. But generally, they strike normie Americans as self-absorbed, spoiled whiners. The only people who might be “sympathetic” are clueless celebrity obsessed girls like the writer.
Personally, my take on Harry is simply: “one of the dumbest dudes of all time”. Handed the golden ticket, to an easy comfortable life and pick among a millions of luscious, willing young women and cashed it in for … Megan. LOL.
I'm thinking, of course, as the buddies-turned-bobbies in "Clockwork Orange"Replies: @J.Ross
Pretty much all of Clockwork Orange is not only non-controversially true, but it’s applicable beyond the UK if you picture Alex DeLarge as black.
One interesting thing I do not yet have a good opinion about: the long (and arguably unnecessary) scene in the warden’s office just before Alex begins receiving the Ludovico Technique. It’s a very tightly planned film and pretty much every scene is non-removable except that one.
This appears to be saying they should - and are - recruiting black criminals. But not white criminals, presumably. I don't see how having criminals as police is supposed to raise Black & Ethnic Minority confidence in the police. This is the kind of magical thinking you get from white left-liberal diversicrats. Actual regular people of all races want honest competent police a lot more than they want police of the same race as them.Replies: @ic1000, @al gore rhythms
It’s also the plot of Clockwork Orange, minus the ‘black’ part.
I’d vote for you, but Canada should be first.
We don't get obsessed with making five year olds brain surgeons or elderly ladies into professional hockey players -- why doe it make sense to keep trying to make the average black into something that he's not?Replies: @Ben tillman
Or take it further: We aren’t obsessed with making dogs and horses into surgeons or cops.
But no. Americans simply do not care--Harry's buffoonery is not our problem--so we aren't pouring out abuse. But generally, they strike normie Americans as self-absorbed, spoiled whiners. The only people who might be "sympathetic" are clueless celebrity obsessed girls like the writer.
Personally, my take on Harry is simply: "one of the dumbest dudes of all time". Handed the golden ticket, to an easy comfortable life and pick among a millions of luscious, willing young women and cashed it in for ... Megan. LOL.Replies: @The Alarmist, @AndrewR
Let’s just say that Harry is an interesting twist on, “Once you go black, you’ll never go back.”
In Modern Times Paul Johnson called the 1960’s the decade the United States tried to commit suicide. I would say that the 2020’s are the decade Western Civilization commits suicide.
What was absurdist in 1970 is mainstream today.Replies: @Anon
Now the problem is to make them stop.
Harry asked 3 lovely English blondes to marry him. They all refused because of the tabloids and the men in suits who handle and control the royal family. Charles asked no less than 5 women to marry him. All refused because of the tabloids and control of the royal family by their handlers.
Charles used to have good taste in women. At the premiere of Romeo and Juliet (1968), he took a shine to Olivia Hussey, but she wasn't interested. Today, Olivia would have been Queen of England!
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/07/30/19/4E8B959700000578-0-image-m-34_1532975668621.jpgReplies: @duncsbaby
It seems like Europe bought into the US glorification of the 'melting pot' society, ignoring the fact that for most of US history this meant an influx of immigrants from Europe, not from colonies in Asia and Africa in which people have no historic or cultural connection to their new home at all, and often don't care to try to form one either. They just want the stuff that comes with it.
When the US began to deviate from this - the Twin Cities influx of Somalis being a good example - the previously admired culture declined, large parts of the cities are now write-offs, and the original population is saddled with a largely unproductive and unassimilated population that sponges off everyone else - forever.Replies: @AnotherDad
“Plug and play”. Good pithy statement of the silliness, Arclight. Thanks.
I LOVE LOVE LOVE this locution. It’s like saying I have greater involvement with theater because I sometimes usher at summer concerts. What is left unsaid, of course, is that young black men’s greater involvement with the criminal justice system is not voluntary. They committed a crime, got caught and were punished.
Diversity cult is an Anglo cult. I don’t think the French are anywhere near this obsessed over diversity. Anyone know why Anglos are going crazy over racial diversity and trans?
FIFY.
You can’t reduce all this to money; how much of that wealth would Harry trade for a non-broken family and live mother?
And then when you start work on the foreigners ... don't forget the Canadians.Replies: @AndrewR
There is no British analog to Silicon Valley or Hollywood, but the UK holds its own and often is at the vanguard of many of the same problems we face. The Ukraine war is a clear and very dangerous example of this. Contempt for white males is another, as the “Conservative” Party has shown recently.
Cressida Dick sounds more like a leaky English dessert in a tin can than a London supercop.Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Bill Jones
Maybe Spotted Dick is one of her relatives.
But no. Americans simply do not care--Harry's buffoonery is not our problem--so we aren't pouring out abuse. But generally, they strike normie Americans as self-absorbed, spoiled whiners. The only people who might be "sympathetic" are clueless celebrity obsessed girls like the writer.
Personally, my take on Harry is simply: "one of the dumbest dudes of all time". Handed the golden ticket, to an easy comfortable life and pick among a millions of luscious, willing young women and cashed it in for ... Megan. LOL.Replies: @The Alarmist, @AndrewR
I don’t think Harry is into submissive, good girls. He needs a mommy for a wife and he found a doozy with Meghan.
Charles seems to be the same but he was able to force the establishment into accepting Camilla, who admittedly seems charming and mentally stable in ways Meghan is not.
France obviously has major problems with “diversity” but they seem at least outwardly committed to egalité and fraternité (if not so much liberté). Whereas Anglo countries are openly embracing the enslavement and extermination of white people.
No such thing is happening. It’s all hyperbole on your part. Even Mr. Sailer wouldn’t go that far.
How about supporting the idea that whites should not become a minority in London?
When the consequences come, it will be difficult to sort the innocent from the guilty.
More like “once you go whore, you’re royal no more.”
“Charles asked no less than 5 women to marry him.”
Charles used to have good taste in women. At the premiere of Romeo and Juliet (1968), he took a shine to Olivia Hussey, but she wasn’t interested. Today, Olivia would have been Queen of England!
The two stars of 1968's "Romeo and Juliet" sued Paramount Pictures for more than $500 million on Friday over a nude scene in the film shot when they were teens.
Olivia Hussey, then 15 and now 71, and Leonard Whiting, then 16 now 72, filed the suit in Los Angeles County Superior Court alleging sexual abuse, sexual harassment and fraud.
Director Franco Zeffirelli, who died in 2019, initially told the two that they would wear flesh-colored undergarments in the bedroom scene that comes late in the movie and was shot on the final days of filming, the suit alleges.
But on the morning of the shoot, Zeffirelli told Whiting, who played Romeo, and Hussey, who played Juliet, that they would wear only body makeup, while still assuring them the camera would be positioned in a way that would not show nudity, according to the suit.
https://www.statesman.com/story/entertainment/movies/2023/01/03/romeo-and-juliet-stars-olivia-hussey-leonard-whiting-sue-paramount/10985293002/Replies: @Wilkey
Charles used to have good taste in women. At the premiere of Romeo and Juliet (1968), he took a shine to Olivia Hussey, but she wasn't interested. Today, Olivia would have been Queen of England!
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/07/30/19/4E8B959700000578-0-image-m-34_1532975668621.jpgReplies: @duncsbaby
Of course every teen who saw Romeo and Juliet took a shine to Olivia Hussey. I know I did when we saw it 10 years later on a class field trip to the Cinema. It looks like the two former stars are trying to pad their retirements now though.
The two stars of 1968’s “Romeo and Juliet” sued Paramount Pictures for more than $500 million on Friday over a nude scene in the film shot when they were teens.
Olivia Hussey, then 15 and now 71, and Leonard Whiting, then 16 now 72, filed the suit in Los Angeles County Superior Court alleging sexual abuse, sexual harassment and fraud.
Director Franco Zeffirelli, who died in 2019, initially told the two that they would wear flesh-colored undergarments in the bedroom scene that comes late in the movie and was shot on the final days of filming, the suit alleges.
But on the morning of the shoot, Zeffirelli told Whiting, who played Romeo, and Hussey, who played Juliet, that they would wear only body makeup, while still assuring them the camera would be positioned in a way that would not show nudity, according to the suit.
https://www.statesman.com/story/entertainment/movies/2023/01/03/romeo-and-juliet-stars-olivia-hussey-leonard-whiting-sue-paramount/10985293002/
When our 9th grade English teacher showed the film in class, after we finished reading the play, she conveniently forgot to fast forward past the all too brief nude scene. My 14-year-old self did not object.
Hussey apparently had a crush on Zeffirelli. Zeffirelli’s eyes were more likely focused on the 16-year-old Leonard Whiting.Replies: @Right_On, @Yngvar
And she was HOT when she was young.
Cressida Dick sounds more like a leaky English dessert in a tin can than a London supercop.Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Bill Jones
Nonsense. It’s a French skin disease.
Diversity is largely (but by no means entirely) foisted on Anglo-Saxon countries by their large Jewish and non-white populations, with the actual Anglo-Saxons lacking the verbal skills and/or self-confidence to stick up for themselves.
The two stars of 1968's "Romeo and Juliet" sued Paramount Pictures for more than $500 million on Friday over a nude scene in the film shot when they were teens.
Olivia Hussey, then 15 and now 71, and Leonard Whiting, then 16 now 72, filed the suit in Los Angeles County Superior Court alleging sexual abuse, sexual harassment and fraud.
Director Franco Zeffirelli, who died in 2019, initially told the two that they would wear flesh-colored undergarments in the bedroom scene that comes late in the movie and was shot on the final days of filming, the suit alleges.
But on the morning of the shoot, Zeffirelli told Whiting, who played Romeo, and Hussey, who played Juliet, that they would wear only body makeup, while still assuring them the camera would be positioned in a way that would not show nudity, according to the suit.
https://www.statesman.com/story/entertainment/movies/2023/01/03/romeo-and-juliet-stars-olivia-hussey-leonard-whiting-sue-paramount/10985293002/Replies: @Wilkey
I saw that. Funny that the two are only now filing suit, 54 years after the movie was released.
When our 9th grade English teacher showed the film in class, after we finished reading the play, she conveniently forgot to fast forward past the all too brief nude scene. My 14-year-old self did not object.
Hussey apparently had a crush on Zeffirelli. Zeffirelli’s eyes were more likely focused on the 16-year-old Leonard Whiting.
She recalls Manson family member Linda Kasabian, who'd "turned state's evidence", showing police around, and saying, “And that Abigail Folger was lying over there, and she had lots of stab wounds.”
When our 9th grade English teacher showed the film in class, after we finished reading the play, she conveniently forgot to fast forward past the all too brief nude scene. My 14-year-old self did not object.
Hussey apparently had a crush on Zeffirelli. Zeffirelli’s eyes were more likely focused on the 16-year-old Leonard Whiting.Replies: @Right_On, @Yngvar
A curious detail about Olivia Hussey: In spite of her “girly” persona and near-pathological shyness, she moved into 10050 Cielo Drive just one month after the Manson murders took place! (Maybe they’d lowered the rent.)
She recalls Manson family member Linda Kasabian, who’d “turned state’s evidence”, showing police around, and saying, “And that Abigail Folger was lying over there, and she had lots of stab wounds.”
“Whereas Anglo countries are openly embracing the enslavement and extermination of white people”
No such thing is happening. It’s all hyperbole on your part. Even Mr. Sailer wouldn’t go that far.
When our 9th grade English teacher showed the film in class, after we finished reading the play, she conveniently forgot to fast forward past the all too brief nude scene. My 14-year-old self did not object.
Hussey apparently had a crush on Zeffirelli. Zeffirelli’s eyes were more likely focused on the 16-year-old Leonard Whiting.Replies: @Right_On, @Yngvar
In light of #MeToo California passed a sunset law that allowed suits for sex-crimes that had fallen for the expiration date. The window closes December 31.
https://dilbert.com/strip/2023-01-30
The most important factor has been the incredible sway and dominance of America--media, academic, government--and hence this toxic brew of American minoritarianism. (The further you are from English language media, the better.) But obviously, the with the Brits--and the French--the colonial legacy is a huge factor as well. (Imperialism has gifted us a legacy of destruction ... and just keeps on giving.)
But sometimes it seems like Europeans--living post-War dependent on American power--looked at the American debacle and instead of thinking and saying the obvious and wise "Let's not do that!" instead arrogantly thought "Those stupid cowboy Americans. We are more sophisticated. We could handle racial diversity no problem."Replies: @Simple Pseudonuymic Handle
That’s because the point is to “liquidate” much of the peasantry. The selected stock for the next civilization will always be instructed where to go for safety.