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Which suffers less from selection bias?

–When local news shows you an hour of helicopter live footage of what’s happening in the streets of your city, such as looting and mayhem by PoC?

–Or when a national news show offers you an hour of carefully curated clips from all over this giant country of Police Brutality against the Peaceful Protesters?

Are Americans so enstupidated these days that they don’t get that The Megaphone is feeding them The Narrative?

 
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  1. Yes.

    • Agree: ic1000
    • Replies: @Goddard
  2. IHTG says:

    You can’t understand what has happened to your country without understanding the impact of centralization. These structural factors outweigh the elite conspiracies and ethnic agendas of the right-wing imagination.

    In the past, news was local and so was most people’s consciousness. You might be liberal, you might be conservative, but an injustice in the next city over was usually just somebody else’s problem. This blissful ignorance functioned as a compromise that that allowed society to exist.

    That compromise has been shattered by the march of technology. The liberals of yesteryear have turned into woke commissars first and foremost because the tools and structures of modernity allow them to be so.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    , @Sam Malone
  3. J Adelman says:

    Media will defeat Trump.

    Unprecedented support for Mr. Biden in the Midwest.

    Moreover, this time Arizona, Georgia and Texas are also in play.
    No way Mr. Biden is gonna lose.

    • LOL: GoRedWings!
    • Troll: IHTG
  4. The silent majority is back. They know it but are terrified to say anything except to each other. But when you get lectured and called a racist by Elmo and Doritos, it stirs resentment. I hope this blows over, but am seeing lots of video of armed whites basically daring rioters to act up in their neighborhoods. All it takes is one hothead on either side.

  5. Are Americans so enstupidated these days that they don’t get that The Megaphone is feeding them The Narrative?

    Yes they are. They refuse to believe that their horrific local news is actually repeated in place after place all across this broad land. Why not? They’d have to read the local news in a hundred locales to know better. Or step outside the MSM zone, which they’re carefully trained never to do.

    And keep in mind that even local news is generally ‘sanitized for your protection.’

    To this point, I urge everyone who hasn’t seen ‘The Sacking of Soho’ to spend a few minutes here, before the vids are taken down.

    https://www.metatube.com/en/videos/455628/Looting-of-The-Apple-Store-SoHo-NewYorkCity/
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/de-blasio-the-sack-of-manhattan-was-in-the-big-picture-merely-a-quiet-riot/#comment-3940933

    And note the response of the New York Times Editorial Board to this:
    Mayor de Blasio, Open Your Eyes. The Police Are Out of Control.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    , @Hypnotoad666
  6. Look guys, those of you who understand the minds of the Really Smart people who empower these anti-White, anti-American zealots will have to explain it.

    See, it’s not so much the feral animals running wild that bother me (including antifa and most NYT writers). It’s the larger community of Really Smart, often moderate people, who seem to provide a kind of incubator for them.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  7. Based on the number of people I see struggling to get through the checkout line, your last paragraph is spot on.

  8. How do you engage an otherwise well-meaning person who does not question the news being stuffed into their heads? The idea that the ‘news’ is carefully formulated and that they are being willfully manipulated does not (and cannot!) occur to them in the slightest. Suggest to them that the mainstream media has an agenda and their eyes widen and the conversation falls flat.

    I just cannot fathom why so many intelligent people appear to be so trusting. On the flipside, what is it about some people that allow them to seek the truth, even though it is unpopular or has negative social consequences? Personally, I have always been contrarian and my upbringing taught me to implicitly mistrust authority figures and their pronouncements. Are people capable of changing the way they perceive the world? My experience of people would tell me that they are not.

    • Replies: @Pop Warner
    , @vhrm
    , @anon
  9. Are Americans so enstupidated these days that they don’t get that The Megaphone is feeding them The Narrative?

    Most upper-middle class women (and their daughters), employed predominantly by the Educational and Government Industrial Complexes (aged 16 to about 59) don’t get it.

  10. The LA Daily News is now my go to source for actual local news, it gives more straight information than the LA Times, which should change its name to BLM Update.

  11. Anon[139] • Disclaimer says:

    National news knows that local news is on its last legs. Looting and burning local retail stores and sheltering in place speeds up the death of advertising income. Once local news goes under, who’s going to know how biased national news is?

  12. I have no way of determining if the riots are still ongoing. I have looked for reports on the internet and have found none. I can only assume this means that they have simmered down for now.

    Am I wrong? It is strange that I cannot find out either way.

    What I have found instead is a huge amount of verbiage, expended by mainstream and prestige sources, that violence in these riots is absolutely righteous.

    Indeed, disagreeing that street violence is righteous seems to make some on the further left explode with rhetorical rage as they are presented with what they feel is fascism. (A projection of their own murdered rationality.)

    At the same time, this rage is still couched in some denials that the violence is really happening, and with some assertions that the rioters are the ones in danger, but these denials seem to be falling away and leaving only calls for holy war. This is a significant transition.

    [MORE]

    It could also be that these contradictions are actually working together? As the riots subside, pro-riot rhetoric feels less directly inflammatory, so the writers need their next hit and up the ante? I don’t know, but it does lay the groundwork for future escalation.

    Another side note, far blue cities seem to have lifted the curfews in order to “protect” the rioters. Or is this because they have calmed themselves? Or, are some of their leaders toying with the idea of using their institutional power to back the protests directly? This would prepare the way.

    In this vein, perhaps the next step, with the backing of the under 40s in the media (as per Bari Weiss’s points on Twitter, a fascinating thread), is for a blue state politician to take leadership of these riots/protests? The opportunity would be very easy to grasp and it would be quite a moment for that individual!

    There’d be risks of it backfiring, but fewer of these than at any point in my lifetime. Almost all institutional power is genuflecting to the riots anyway, so who is going to step up and really own them?

    Or are all the political grifters who could, and have a big enough name, being timid, as they are gunning for the Biden VP job?

    Like that job, a woman will be best placed, as she will find it easier to not be held responsible for any related tragedies. Maybe also non-black pols are scared of taking up that mantle because it’d be white privilege or something?

    But then black female politicians have their climb up the mainstream flag pole so greased at the moment by woke-ism that they have a lot more to lose and so might not take this risk.

    Stacey Abrams would have been perfect but she is conserving her political capital in the same way that incredibly wealthy widows will buy government bonds.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/politics/stacey-abrams-floyd-protest-cnntv/index.html

    Abrams said her decision not to physically march with the protesters is informed by her past experience as a student helping lead a 1992 protest in response to Rodney King’s brutal beating by Los Angeles police.

    “Having been an activist and a protester, I have a very visceral reaction and my conscience tells me, I need to stay out of the way and let the attention focus on the demonstrators,” she said.

    Disingenuous cowardice…when does Biden pick his Veep again?

  13. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    Are Americans so enstupidated these days

    Very good question I’ve been asking myself. Trying to sound people out to see which way the wind is blowing. A lot of people have been angered by the wanton destruction and have started talking in harsher terms but mainly in smaller circles. Then there’s others who seem to be true believers in the PC cult and like most religious zealots can’t be reasoned out of their denial of reality. Others are deliberately vague. Local news shows or national news shows, they’re all coming out of that screen. It’s a matter of dueling screens.

  14. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:

    Are Americans so enstupidated these days that they don’t get that The Megaphone is feeding them The Narrative?

    Yes, and a lot of well-educated, high IQ people have become enstupidated.

  15. “Are Americans so enstupidated these days that they don’t get that The Megaphone is feeding them The Narrative?”

    In a word: yes.

  16. peterike says:

    Are Americans so enstupidated these days that they don’t get that The Megaphone is feeding them The Narrative?

    Lol! Of course! About 40%-ish of the country hasn’t the slightest idea that the Narrative is anything other than word-of-God truth. Maybe more than that, I’m probably being generous.

  17. Even the wokest local news still must feed its hunger for mayhem, especially anything that might affect traffic. The NYC newsradio stations basically exist for the traffic reports, although traffic apps are probably eating into that, much like online weather stuff is eating into the need to stay up til 10:40 PM for Mr G or the still-hot Audrey Puente

  18. martin_2 says:

    There have been two incidents of police negligence and callousness that make one wonder what is wrong with these men. THEY ARE NOT NORMAL PEOPLE. Indeed, they are less normal than the bluest haired fat feminist or the goofiest liberal academic.

    In one case a very elderly man, perhaps in his eighties, walking with the aid of a cane, appears to be waiting for a bus, obviously no threat to anyone, and two policemen push him over, and then they walk away, completely indifferent to his well being.

    In the other case an elderly man falls over after being pushed by two young policemen – charitably one could argue that he tripped – but subsequently he bangs his head severely on the pavement and is knocked unconscious, bleeding from the ear, and clearly needs urgent medial treatment, but the crowd of police just walk past. One officer goes to help but is pulled away by another.

    No-one in their right mind behaves like that.

    • Troll: CJ
    • Replies: @res
    , @Sam Haysom
  19. Are Americans so enstupidated these days that they don’t get that The Megaphone is feeding them The Narrative?

    As Adam Smith was about to say, “There is a lot of enstupidity in a nation.”

    I’ve got more than one high-IQ, advanced-degreed extended family member living comfortably away from PoC who is currently watching the Fake News Talkers and is swallowing it all at face value. If I venture to mention a hate fact, they just laugh because they think I’m making a rude joke.

    And yes, these are all women.

    I’m starting to conclude that it is literally physically impossible for facts and certain people’s consciousness to come into contact. Like matter and anti-matter touching, it would cause the apocalypse.

  20. Local news is by definition are events important to YOU. Chicago police scanners going non-stop over the weekend AND news media coverage PROVE CPD “Deescalation” results in downtown Chicago going up in smoke and places people go wrecked by Black and communist mayhem.

    Remember, flightradar24 app on your cellphone provides information on combat operations by cop & news helicopters.

  21. The neocortex is a peripheral. Multimedia input presents as reality. The neocortex is evolved to trust the sensory inputs that have a far deeper phylogenetic history. However, peoples evolved in novel environments are highly dependent on cultural heuristics provided by elders via storytelling. This is why “Don’t trust your lying eyes,” works so well on Europeans, when presented by media, academia, theology and government authorities. “Narrative”, especially when backed up by multimedia input, is ethnospecific biological weaponry.

    Although the neocortex’s job is to model reality and provide predictions for deep brain selection of actions, it is handicapped by these optimizations. The degree of individual agency required to overcome these optimizations is well beyond that required to maintain paleolithic physical fitness in civilized environments.

  22. Elli says:

    Regarding your relatives: I was raised so anti-racist that the lesson of the occasion when a gang of black teenagers beat my father unconscious for laundry change was that….the racist white police hauled in an old wino for him to i.d. so they could close the crime. So his idealism survived contact.

    My idealism went from lily white suburb to college in a typical big city. Within the first two weeks, a young white woman student was killed by a couple of “teens” who broke in, robbed her, raped her, and stabbed her in the abdomen as a coup de grace while leaving. She bled to death while calling the police. In my dorm, AA AA students blasted loud music at all hours, preferred the company of local thugs to making friends with non black students. Wealthy African students left dirty dishes that attracted roaches, and squashed roaches on the wall. Also liked really loud music, though to be fair so did many whites. But it was only an African who came close to raping me. The girl next door to me rode her bike into a black neighborhood and was chased by people yelling, “get the white bitch.”

    My idealism did not survive three months of contact.

    What I dont understand is the cities full of white liberals who maintain anti-racist idealism. Of course they will know good black people, but they also know the dangers. Practically speaking, they observe and avoid the dangers, but their minds and mouths don’t acknowledge it. Social shaming is that strong, but why is honest acknowledgement shameful?

    Right now I live in a town where most people gush about how diverse it is. It is Asian diverse, not black or Hispanic diverse, and I know perfectly well that all the gushers made sure of that before they moved in. “The schools are really good, and it’s so diverse!”

    My kids got Derbyshire’s talk before they went to college, with a special girl’s version for the girls.

  23. anon[342] • Disclaimer says:

    Hey. This is Corona virus insanity. Animal spirits. It can’t be directly resisted. Let’s get rid of both police and All Public Employee Unions, no? They are bad for blacks, except for those that work for them.

    Prediction: Black murders will increase as cops are humiliated.

  24. Lugash says:
    @william munny

    The silent majority is back.

    I hope we’ve got a majority. Even more so, I hope we’ve got a large majority in the right states on November 4th.

  25. MSM feeds footage from the major cities, NYC, Chicago, LA etc. Apparently no one is interested in cops being run over in Buffalo* or a little woman being beaten with 2x4s in Rochester. The video online of the Rochester woman’s assault in sickening. That video alone would go a long way in showing who the cops have to deal with on a daily basis. * I believe the one cop suffered a broken pelvis and leg. Live changing for sure and career ending possibly.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Reg Cæsar
  26. @Almost Missouri

    Of my many friends and family who are all p.c. there are only two who live near POCs. One of the two is planning on moving far away from “urban” life but this is just a coincidence you see. Job opportunity came up!

  27. If the Democrats can parlay this into a win in November, Charles Manson is finally vindicated.

  28. BB753 says:

    People are sheeple and will always be.

  29. I forgot to mention that San Francisco’s mayor London Breed and the Board of Supervisors is proposing to redirect SFPD money to the black community. Berkeley’s school board has already announced that even though they will have a serious budget short fall next year, they will fully fund all their programs for black students. SF and Berkeley probably don’t have enough blacks between them to fill a super Walmart and Target. Virtue signalling at it’s best.

  30. Whiskey says: • Website

    At this point Trump will lose all 50 States. White women love riots, Blacks and wokeness. Ask Emma Watson.

    White women + Blacks + soy boys + Mexican s = 75% victory for Biden.

    Get ready for President Abrams.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  31. AKAHorace says:
    @Almost Missouri

    I’m starting to conclude that it is literally physically impossible for facts and certain people’s consciousness to come into contact. Like matter and anti-matter touching, it would cause the apocalypse.

    This may be partly because so much of what people see is from the media. They spend so much time looking at computers and the TV that what they or people they know actually experience or what happens in their own community may seem less real.

  32. @william munny

    William Munny said:

    “I hope this blows over, but am seeing lots of video of armed whites basically daring rioters to act up in their neighborhoods. All it takes is one hothead on either side.”

    I hope so, too, but I doubt this will “blow over” anytime soon. This narrative is coordinated and intense. And while its timing may be a little suspect (the November election is still six months away), the effect is unmistakeable – the one, tangible, concrete step that “good whites” could take to demonstrate their anti-racism would be defeat Donald Trump and to elect Joe Biden president this fall.

    That is something on which all, and I mean ALL, of the Social Justice Warriors (black and especially white!) agree.

    Are the protests/riots/unrest/nightly “marches”/non-stop coverage part of a Deep State plan to make sure Donald Trump is not re-elected?

    If I had to bet, I’d say hell yes.

    If they don’t work (i.e. if polls later this summer show Trump still with a decent chance to win), then there will be a follow-up. There will be another “injustice” to roil the base, to get them back into the streets, to get the cameras rolling.

    Commenter “Je Suis Omar Mateen” has been arguing this for months, and I am starting to agree with him.

    This is a psyop, right in front of our eyes.

    The noted actor, James Woods, agrees (from his home Twitter page):

    #Antifa is merely a pawn in the plan engineered by Soros and the Deep State. The Obama/Ayers/Alinsky/Cloward-Piven/Clinton strategy has always been to provoke, destabilize, and then rebuild a “socialist nirvana” from the ashes. Stay calm, be prepared, but don’t take the bait.”

    The (((usual suspects))) are worried.

    So just maybe it’s true, then.

    https://www.jweekly.com/2020/06/04/there-are-now-500000-negative-tweets-about-george-soros-every-day-many-claim-hes-funding-george-floyd-protests/

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
  33. @Almost Missouri

    Excellent comment! Out of agree buttons.

  34. Coemgen says:

    Again, we have to admire the authors of the First Amendment to the U.S. Consitution.

    They gave us two distinct rights: freedom of speech and freedom of the press.

    Why didn’t the authors give a non-specific free such as “freedom of communications” (cf., “arms)?

    How are freedom of speech and freedom of the press different?

    Does the exercise of either of those freedoms extend past the point of infringing upon someone else’s rights?

    For example, does one have the right to use their megaphone to shut down another’s speech?

  35. @Buffalo Joe

    How dare you point out that throwing money at blacks never solves their problems and is simply throwing good money after bad!

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
  36. Farenheit says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    SF and Berkeley probably don’t have enough blacks between them to fill a super Walmart and Target. Virtue signalling at it’s best.

    Berkeley has plenty of Blacks, it boarders Oakland. Berkeley High School is a super Isteve content generator as its student body consist of these low human capital blacks, overpopulating the left tail of the bell curve, and the children of the UC Berkeley faculty, leftist they may be, overpopulating the right tail of the bell curve. This creates a student body that has a two humped camel type of IQ distribution, and therefore all sorts of weird policy gyrations to try to square that circle.

    As to SF, they’ve been slowly cleansing their blacks for decades. Every so often the SF Chronicle will write a piece on the horrors of loosing their much beloved diversity, but then business as usual.

    So SF is totally virtue signalling, Berkeley not so much.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  37. @Almost Missouri

    If people really can’t hear, or see something, you say, then they really don’t want to.

    Why therefore do you think these individuals don’t want to hear or see those “hate facts”?

    It won’t be a rational explanation! They can’t even consider what you are saying, so they are certainly unable to rationally think about it.

    This self-enforced delusion must be protecting them from something inside themselves. It isn’t something external, you are not actually a danger to them. No real danger exists in that room with you.

    It’ll either be that, even taking that hate fact into ambivalent consideration for only one moment, will make them feel awful or it will take away something that makes them feel good.

    Perhaps you could give them some information which is the opposite of those hate facts? You could then observe their positive reaction upon considering it, and listen to what they are spurred onto talk effusively about.

    Whatever it is, bad or good, just ignore how they relate it to the rest of the world, they’re talking about something inside themselves, despite not knowing it.

  38. Sometimes it’s also local news vs. local news — look at the contrast today between the Daily News and NY Post. Daily News has a black bordered full front page tribute to the dear departed home invader. Post front mocks deBlasio for getting heckled at the big lefty rally and rips Cuomo for his ill-timed bail “reform”

  39. @Buffalo Joe

    But it’s only fitting and decent that each black student should be accompanied by Asian tutors and driven around in luxury SUVs. And only a racist would think otherwise.

    As to the general point, it’s natural that the same people who believe nations shouldn’t have borders would also think cities shouldn’t have police departments.

    I, for one, welcome our new insane overlords and am stocked up on popcorn (among other things) for the entertainment to come.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  40. Gordo says:

    Are Americans so enstupidated these days that they don’t get that The Megaphone is feeding them The Narrative?

    Think of a person you know who is of average intelligence.

    Half the country is stupider than that.

    I see perfectly normal people here in the UK who are upset about some drugged up convict thousands of miles away dying mainly of his own misadventure, because the fecking media tells them to.

  41. Art Deco says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    What that means is that they cut the police budget and provide jobs for grifters and fools with MEd and MSW degrees.

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
  42. @Almost Missouri

    As Adam Smith was about to say, “There is a lot of enstupidity in a nation.”

    I think that was Toynbee. Smith would have you trade with others for the stupidity they have an advantage in– eg, France importing McDonald’s, Disney, Jerry Lewis, and Josephine Baker, in exchange for Sartre, de Beauvoir, Derrida, Foucault, and Houellebecq.

    • Replies: @Alden
  43. I don’t know about other local news coverage but in Boston coverage of the rioting, vandalism, looting, arson, and violence over the past week or so has approached Orwellian levels of doublethink.

    I arrived home this past Sunday night, unaware of events that had been unfolding throughout the day. I turned on the 11 PM television news to find live camera coverage of rioting mobs blocking the streets, attacking police and bystanders, smashing into stores, looting, and setting fires. All the voice-over commentaries and interviews with on-scene reporters kept using the words “peaceful” and “protest”. I cannot recall anyone mentioning mobs, rioting, looting, or arson.

    I’d started watching the local NBC outlet and thought that it was maybe just their usual fake news bias but no matter which station I tuned in to the story was the same. The official MSM narrative was in total conflict with the images of what was actually happening. The same 1984 level of doublethink played out in subsequent days of riot coverage in Boston and later in other Massachusetts cities like Brockton.

    Are MSM personnel truly this far gone into prog dementia? It would appear so.

    Do they truly believe that they can mislead the public in this manner? Again, that seems to be their assumption.

    And, for me the most frightening question of all, “Are they right?” That remains to be seen.

  44. epebble says:

    Looks like all the Generals have turned anti-Trump. Is it only the talking ones or serving too? What would the lower ranking military people think if called to enforce order? They looked professional in D.C. but would they fire upon Americans if ordered?

  45. @Buffalo Joe

    The video online of the Rochester woman’s assault in sickening

    .

    What is it with Rochester women? A little too close to Seneca Falls?

    This footage is entertaining:

  46. @Buffalo Joe

    Rochester’s mayoress is one Lovely Warren. Sounds like a place rabbits would like.

    Chief of Police is La’Ron Singletary. (Sorry, I don’t know the direction of his apostrophe.)

    https://www.cityofrochester.gov/PoliceChief/

    Cute fact: Obama’s Dunhams came to America as Singletarys. Mad son Jonathan changed it to Dunham for reasons that are still a mystery over 350 years later.

  47. NOTA says:

    Policing and rioting are both local. Some places, the protests are peaceful and the police are standing around in a line looking bored. A few places police even joined some
    of the marches. In other places idiots are chucking rocks at the cops, or busting out windows and burning stuff down. And still other places, the cops are busting heads and tear gassing overwhelmingly peaceful protests. And everywhere there are cameras.

    All that means that everyone with a desired narrative has plenty of footage to support it. You want black looters ransacking a Nike store? White looters carrying away TVs? Middle aged blacks and whites singing songs together while the cops look bored? Rioters busting heads? Cops busting heads? It’s all happening somewhere, so you can get the footage you need to make it look like it’s the real story.

    Reality is messy, but news coverage follows a narrative. The narrative is different on Fox than on NBC, but neither one
    is showing you reality.

    • Agree: Yngvar
  48. anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump’s stealth strategy to capture a significant number of black voters is working well. Polls up from 26% from August of last year. He only needs a certain percentage of black votes to politically neuter the democrats. He knows it, I notice he’s been working on it for at least the last year. He’s been walking the political high wire of this rioting very well.

    Typical progressive democrats are like Deadheads complaining about the music of Taylor Swift, as if she’s writing her music for them. She’s not. A Deadhead complaining about Taylor Swift’s music only makes him look sad, old, and ridiculous, just like progressive democrats, crying about Trump. He doesn’t care about their political concerns, yet they keep going on as if he does.

    Their collective narcissism makes effective strategizing against Trump impossible. They can’t even identify their challenge adequately, so strategizing against Trump becomes a comedy routine in which they will never be able to figure out “who’s on first.”

    • Replies: @res
    , @Hypnotoad666
  49. Harold says:

    The trouble is that people psychologically live in a small village or tribe, but in reality live in countries of millions, or hundreds of millions, numbers which are incomprehensible to them without abstract thought of which most people are incapable.

    I have seen people say the likes of, ‘Oh my god, this is the third time event type X has happened this year. What is happening to this country?’ about event type X which actually happens hundreds of times per week.

    They have no clue that in a country of hundreds of millions you can pluck out events of any type you want to show to people.

    They think that if an event is shown on the news, then it is a significant and noteworthy occurrence. ‘I can’t believe another Karen has been found calling the police on a black man, when will the madness stop?’ Or whatever. Never mind that, according to The Color of Crime ‘There were an average of 15,400 black-on-white rapes every year’ or about one every 34 minutes.

    The news needs to give all the news that is fit to print every day: ‘Today there were X burglaries, X murders, X rapes etc’ just before the weather. And broken down by race.

    In the nineties wasn’t there a totally made up panic about white supremacists burning down black churches, that turned out to be burning down at the rate they alway have?

    I just saw Indian actresses coming out against racist police in America unjustly killing black men, an event which is rarer than being struck by lightning. An event which is rarer in America than being struck by lightning, is apparently worth speaking out about by actresses from a country in which 14 to 18 million people live as literal slaves.

    I feel like I am losing my mind at this insanity.

    • Agree: Wilkey
  50. Local news still conveys some facts and truth. National news (especially prestige national news) lies, lies, lies, lies, lies. Well, maybe not “lies” in a purely technical sense. But they select, edit and massage information so much that what they’re selling is about as “true” as a Hollywood protest movie. This was always the case, btw, but it’s grown much worse in recent years. I endorse Bari Weiss’ recent Twitter thread.

    Reminder: Billy Chemirmir, the Kenyan immigrant who’s suspected (with good reason!) of having killed dozens of people in Texas? He could well be one of the country’s worst serial killers. The NYTimes has never once mentioned his name.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  51. Wilkey says:
    @william munny

    The silent majority is back. They know it but are terrified to say anything except to each other.

    Yes, many are terrified. They’ve definitely done everything they can to make us feel like bad people.

    But I think that these sorts of events bring conservatives out of the closet. Once that happens there’s no really going back in. I’m generally silent about politics on my social media accounts. It’s not out of fear but for other reasons. Most political posts and debates on social media are idiotic. Social media has really revealed how small-minded and unrelated to facts and driven by peer pressure and brainwashing most people’s political beliefs are.

    But I haven’t hesitated to say things about the riots, whether the debate turns stupid or not. It’s hard to read post after post of idiocy by otherwise reasonably intelligent people and not say something.

  52. Steve,

    You’re about to get some national attention, courtesy of Charles Negy re-tweeting your column:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8392251/UCF-professor-investigated-saying-white-Americans-white-culture-siege.html

    • Replies: @res
  53. syonredux says:

    When local news shows you an hour of helicopter live footage of what’s happening in the streets of your city, such as looting and mayhem by PoC?

    Get WOKE, Steve. The correct acronym is BIPOC (Black, Indigenous, People of Color).

    The BIPOC Project aims to build authentic and lasting solidarity among Black, Indigenous and People of Color (BIPOC), in order to undo Native invisibility, anti-Blackness, dismantle white supremacy and advance racial justice.

    We use the term BIPOC to highlight the unique relationship to whiteness that Indigenous and Black (African Americans) people have, which shapes the experiences of and relationship to white supremacy for all people of color within a U.S. context. We unapologetically focus on and center relationships among BIPOC folks.

    https://www.thebipocproject.org/

    So why is there another new term? Well, “people of color” was pretty inclusive for when the term was made, but many Black and indigenous people have pointed out that the term yet again erases their identities since it paints all people of color’s experiences as one. And although people of color experience a lot of the same discriminatory practices for not being white, there’s still anti-Blackness which exists in non-Black communities of color and there’s anti-indigenousness in settler communities

    https://www.hercampus.com/school/umkc/what-bipoc-and-why-you-should-use-it

  54. Anonymous[279] • Disclaimer says:

    Well, I’m sure the local news is less biased against showing the looting and rioting. But there’s also been a heck of a lot of police violence against peaceful protestors. I am linking a twitter thread of >300 such incidents, if anyone here doubts this is an actual problem.

    Hi. You're probably seeing this pinned tweet because cops are rioting nationwide and I'm trying to keep trackI'm currently updating the list. A few things:➡️ Follow @fsckemall ➡️ Some policing solutions are here: https://t.co/wQikFLfFwj➡️ The brutality thread starts here: https://t.co/jRGnXrvv79— T. Greg Doucette (@greg_doucette) June 4, 2020

    Even if only, say, half of these incidents are as bad as they look, it is clear why people continue to take to the streets to protest the police. Yeah, there’s a lot of dumb anti-white rhetoric as well, but a lot of people are simply fed up with being ruled over by thugs! Couple this with the incompetency of the police in stopping actual malicious actors this last week, and it isn’t particularly surprising that people are looking for a change.

    However, there isn’t much consensus on what that change should be, partially because all the radical rhetoric is an impediment to thinking (“abolish the police”…yeah right.) Most agree that a big problem is that bad cops don’t get fired until they really mess up–patterns of more-violent-than-normal interactions are ignored. Why?

    I’m curious what ideas fellow iSteve fans have for police reform.

    • Replies: @vhrm
    , @Dtbb
  55. Wilkey says:

    Are Americans so enstupidated these days that they don’t get that The Megaphone is feeding them The Narrative?

    Seen on Twitter:

    “Rioting Is the Voice of the Unheard” – press release from every Fortune 500 company, church, and university in America.

    Must suck to have only the most powerful institutions in America listening to you.

  56. –Or when a national news show offers you an hour of carefully curated clips from all over this giant country of Police Brutality against the Peaceful Protesters?

    Steve i want to applaud this paragraph and your use of “curated” to describe the elite media’s “news”.

    I believe you’ve used this before it is spot on–exactly what the establishment propaganda organs offer.

    One that really struck me was Trayvon Martin. When i first heard about the narrative i thought–naively (this was way back in 2012)–“Oh this sounds bad. They even have some guy with a Germanic name, no doubt a blond Nazi. Maybe they’ve actually found a real case?”

    I read some national reports, then from some alt-rightish site or commenter–maybe someone here–i followed a link to one of the Orlando local news stations reports. They had interviewed an actual … witness! from one of the neighboring apartments. It was dark but he’d seen a guy in a hoodie on top of a guy in red “raining down blows MMA style” and slamming his head into the sidewalk. Then he heard a loud pop. And the guy on top wasn’t on top anymore.

    A day or two later, i read a full dissection–i believe from KC Johnson who’d debunked the whole Duke Lacrosse frame up. He’d pulled up the map of the apartment complex. And in Zimmerman’s 911 call it turned out Zim didn’t know the address or cross street and the 911 operator had him essentially walk out to the edge of complex to get the name of the cross street–ergo unable to follow Martin. So Martin basically walked “home”–i.e. the apartment of his mom’s boyfriend where he was staying having been suspended from school for buglary–then had to have *turned around* and *gone back* to confront Zimmerman. (Perhaps to give him the gay-bashing he deserved?). That doesn’t definitely settle the issue of who started the physical confrontation but gives one a very good–99%?–hint.

    But the point is even without the doing actual investigation like KC Johnson, if the reporters merely read the local– “if it bleeds it leads”–news reports and interviewed a couple witnesses–i.e. do their job?–the “innocent black boy gunned down by racist white southerner” narrative would be completely debunked.

    But instead the “elite” media (((journalists))) gave us
    — skittles
    — “white Hispanic”
    — selectively edited the 911 call to try and make Zimmerman look “racist”
    — edited and pretended video footage didn’t show cuts on Zim’s head
    — pictures of 12-year old Trayvon (serious anti-journalism).
    Basically they acted as propagandists for the minoritarian–anti-white gentile–narrative.

    I think if it’s reporting on the say Boeing’s 737-Max debacle, then elite media reporting is often “ok”. Journalists never know what they are talking about, but at least no worse than you’d expect.

    But for anything touching on the minoritarian agenda–“racism!”, “anti-semitism”, “nativism!”, etc. etc.–the sheer level of lying and propaganda “elite” “journalists” spew out makes Joseph Goebbels look like a straight-shooter.

  57. res says:
    @martin_2

    Links make comments like that better. And the lack of them makes comments suspect.

    • Replies: @anon
  58. Muggles says:
    @Mr McKenna

    >>And note the response of the New York Times Editorial Board to this:
    Mayor de Blasio, Open Your Eyes. The Police Are Out of Control.<<

    I wonder what the Times Ed Board might write if, say, the rioters smashed into the NYT building and looted all of the stuff inside? Attacked the staffers, etc. Of course the printers, who are probably in Queens, would be left alone, big and union and all.

    Now there's a thought..

  59. @J Adelman

    No way Mr. Biden is gonna lose.

    It would be more correct to say there is no way Mr. Trump is going to win … even if he actually wins the election.

  60. @The King is a Fink

    I’ve had otherwise intelligent people outright deny the facts of interracial crime because they believe any white victim would make national news, and since they haven’t heard about it it means it never happened. All this does is show their complete reliance on national news for any and all happenings, forming their opinions almost entirely from the Blood Libel Times or the Bezos Post. I think if they ever discovered Paul Kersey they would reflexively reject him based on personal prejudices and websites he’s circulated on (remember, unz is a holocaust denial site and vdare is a white supremacist site according to our benevolent national press). These are the same people who think Breitbart harbors nazis

  61. res says:
    @anonymous

    Here is the update they were teasing.

    Does anyone have access to their historical data to see how that compares? The closest thing I found was this August 2019 piece giving numbers in the 19-28% range.
    https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/august_2019/black_approval_for_trump_returns_to_normal_range

    And this piece from a month earlier giving numbers in the 25-34% range.
    https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/july_2019/trump_support_up_this_week_among_black_voters

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  62. @william munny

    By “Elmo and Doritos,” do you mean the muppet and the tortilla chips brand, or are you referring to a pair of BLM organisers by their given names? Both seem possible.

  63. I live in Chicago. Is anyone else turned on by WLS reporter Liz Nagy?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    , @Corvinus
  64. res says:
    @Steve from Detroit

    Thanks. This should be interesting. That article is hot off the presses so only one comment at the moment. It will be interesting to see which comments (and how many) they allow through.

    Here is the tweet in question. 406 replies so far.

    What I found interesting is the first time I looked at that tweet I saw a series of three replies from CharlesNegy to TelianW which seemed to indicate there was a comment about the relevance of genetics. But I can’t find TelianW’s tweet and now I don’t see those three replies below the tweet above. But you can see them if you search Twitter for TelianW.

  65. @Paul Jolliffe

    There will be another “injustice” to roil the base, to get them back into the streets,

    The trial of Chauvin and his associates will conclude just before the election. If necessary, they’ll even find him innocent = record turnout.

  66. Anon[368] • Disclaimer says:

    Guys, GUYS we can all take a deep breath now. St. Louis police have captured the white supremacist extremists (AKA The Boogaloo Boyzz) who are taking advantage of legitimate non-violent protests to wreak havoc in black neighborhoods. Now that we have captured some of their members, they are sure to turn on their ringleaders, and things should be looking much better and more peaceful from here on out.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/breaking-st-louis-police-release-images-7-looters-murdered-retired-police-captain-david-dorn/

  67. anonymous[365] • Disclaimer says:
    @RichardTaylor

    Here is the opening paragraph of an email I received from my water utility, American Water:

    Last week’s death of George Floyd is another tragic reminder of the racial disparity that remains in our country. Together, we mourn the loss of a life taken unjustly. Racial injustice is wrong and inconsistent with the values of American Water. We are all different, and that’s a beautiful thing. Our diversity is our strength and should not be used to divide us.

    And here is the closing paragraph:

    While much work remains to be done to address systemic racism, we are committed to doing our part to contribute to a more just and inclusive and beautifully different society.

    You can probably fill in the middle without difficulty. Hint: it’s a paean to diversity.

    Every fucking utility, credit card company, etc. etc. I deal with has sent me a similar email.

    The CEO of the company for which I work sent an internal email basically saying the same thing. As has the CEO of the company where my wife works.

    The corporations are falling over themselves to virtue signal this ridiculous crap!

    Leftist now control now the vast majority of ALL institutions. Whether this control is official or not does not matter. They have the power and they are WIELDING it by CRUSHING all who dissent.

    Smart moderate people are not incubators. Smart moderate people are COWED. Stupid center-leftists are COWED. Genius-level rightists are COWED. Every-fucking-body is COWED. The leftists mob is small, but in control.

    How many are willing to fight when the shitstorm of political conformity comes down upon their heads? How many can afford to lose their livelihoods?

    Even a CEO can’t afford to have their companies be boycotted and ridiculed by EVERYONE who matters — Hollywood, professional athletes, the news media, and so on. So the CEO conforms. Even A-level Hollywood types and musicians have to conform. They want their next gigs. Athletes have to conform. Look at the pathetic apology Drew Brees had to give. Conform or you will be fucked over in some way.

    What we’re seeing are struggle sessions instituted by revolutionaries to keep EVERYONE in line.

    I’ve never seen it so bad. The whole thing is absurd and yet it gathers strength. The leftists have made a great gain in the past two weeks. They have shown their power and caused the nation to tremble.

    • Thanks: RichardTaylor
  68. Testing12 says:

    What suffers less from selection bias?

    Citizen produced evidence of empty hospitals and faked Corona deaths (e.g. homicide victims listed as Corona)?

    Or National News showing acted “front lines” footage while dispersing lockdown narratives from liberal politicians bolstered by said faked stats and faulty models?

    Are conservatives so enstupidated these days that they can only see one hobby-horse Narrative at a time?

    I suppose we all have our blind spots.

  69. @Elli

    Social shaming is that strong, but why is honest acknowledgement shameful?

    50+ years of minoritarian propaganda. It’s basically impossible to overstate the level of lying–i.e. propaganda–that has been used on whites since the “Civil Rights” revolution… just to keep this sick minoritarian lie stumbling along.

    My kids got Derbyshire’s talk before they went to college, with a special girl’s version for the girls.

    Good for you Elli. You’re the kind of mom, more girls need to have.

  70. @william munny

    The silent majority is back.

    It’s hard to tell what they think because the silent majority is, by definition, generally silent. On November 3, we’ll find out if Whites have truly become cucked, or if they have some small spark of self-preservation left in them.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  71. Corvinus says:

    “Which suffers less from selection bias?

    –When local news shows you an hour of helicopter live footage of what’s happening in the streets of your city, such as looting and mayhem by PoC?

    –Or when a national news show offers you an hour of carefully curated clips from all over this giant country of Police Brutality against the Peaceful Protesters?”

    Corrected for accuracy. Which suffers less from selection bias?

    –When national and local news shows you unedited clips from all over this great nation of police brutality against people who merely exercise their freedom to peacefully assemble?

    –When i-Steve and company routinely characterizes generally peaceful protests as decidedly being about looting and mayhem amid Trump’s militarization of law enforcement?

    Now, asking for a friend…is the old white man a good white or bad white?

    https://www.wivb.com/news/five-people-arrested-one-person-injured-during-protest-activity-in-niagara-square/

  72. Corvinus says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Today’s whites are self-preserving, just not in the ways to personally prefer or approve of.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @AnotherDad
  73. vhrm says:
    @The King is a Fink

    How do you engage an otherwise well-meaning person who does not question the news being stuffed into their heads? The idea that the ‘news’ is carefully formulated and that they are being willfully manipulated does not (and cannot!) occur to them in the slightest. Suggest to them that the mainstream media has an agenda and their eyes widen and the conversation falls flat.

    I don’t know an easy solution… i think it’s going to take a “movement” to develop this stuff and legitimize it over time. Think tanks, local politicians etc..

    Specifically about the news, one thing that may crack the door open a bit is to engage the person about something that they’re relatively expert in and how the media covers that. It’s usually kinda superficial and missing the point. Like I’d bet most teachers roll their eyes at most education stories for being vapid and misleading, even if not outright wrong.

    Introduce the idea that the stories on other topics are just as superficial and slanted, but you don’t notice unless you’re really up to speed on that subject.

    This at least introduces that the news is not telling you all you need to know.

  74. Anonymous[365] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    Yeah, your preferred and approved of way of White self-preservation is for Whites to say “Sorry Massa, so sorry for muh white skin. Please don’t hurt me, Massa. I admit that I have the privilege. What else you want me to say, Massa?”.

    You and your cucked-out ilk are disgusting and ridiculous.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  75. @Reg Cæsar

    Reg-

    Google “Leticia Astacio” if you want to know more about Rochester’s finest female.

  76. @Mr McKenna

    And note the response of the New York Times Editorial Board to this:
    Mayor de Blasio, Open Your Eyes. The Police Are Out of Control.

    For what it’s worth, even the lefty readership of the Times is pummelling the Editorial Board in the comments section. The words “bias” and “fake news” are getting used pretty consistently. Here’s a pretty typical comment:

    All fair minded New York Times readers of this editorial should also read a relevant editorial in the Washington Examiner “Data show the media is grossly misrepresenting racial violence in the US” by Max Hyams

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/editorials/data-show-the-media-is-grossly-misrepresenting-racial-violence-in-the-us

    It seems likely that the New York Times editorial staff know about the actual data on policing and race. They also know that their selective and biased reporting is supporting a narrative extremely harmful to race relations in this country. To me, it looks like war on the working classes in this country which includes the police.

    • Thanks: HammerJack
  77. Over the last week, I’ve watched hundreds of clips of protesters looting and smashing and grabbing … and this is the one I’ve enjoyed the most, by far:

    Such a perfect illustration of the sheer hypocrisy of the whores in the media. Why are all of those racist police officers standing in the lobby of the CNN Center in Atlanta (collecting overtime, no doubt) protecting the corporate assets of Time Warner? Justice demands that you fire the pigs and let the masses come inside to make their voices heard. Let them burst into the studio and take over the live broadcast. That’s what you’ve been asking for, CNN, and that’s what you should get.

    At 12:45, you see an explosion in the lobby. A striking moment, to be sure. One cannot help but recall these words uttered by Bernard Shaw as he cowered in a Baghdad hotel room on the first night of Desert Storm: “Clearly, I’ve never been there, but it feels like we’re in the center of hell.”

  78. Yngvar says:

    Are Americans so enstupidated these days that they don’t get that The Megaphone is feeding them The Narrative?

    They did elect Trump, and that was contre-récit. But before that, Obama was re-elected, so I’m not so sure about Americans these days. Flimsy?

  79. @Paleo Retiree

    Babylon Bee was on the thread with this:

  80. vhrm says:
    @Anonymous

    We discussed reform a little in the Biden “aim for the leg” thread if you’re curious, but not much consensus. (https://www.unz.com/isteve/biden-suggests-cops-shoot-unarmed-persons-coming-at-them-with-a-knife-in-the-leg-instead-of-the-heart/ )

    Looking at that pointed thread of “police violence”… there’s a lot of whining and exaggeration. I’d say maybe 2 in 10 are really problematic, and even there it depends on the context.

    Getting shoved back if you’re in a cops’s face after he told you to get back in a protest situation is acceptable.

    Cops driving with their lights on at 3mph through a crowd trying to mob them is fine. (though i also think that the vast majority of charges of “assault with a deadly weapon” and attempted murder against people who drive near or into cops when they’re trying to get away are also bs. Smetimes it’s legit, but usually it’s bs)

  81. @anonymous

    Technically speaking, Trumps support among Blacks is always 0%, because if you support him “you ‘aint Black.” I have it on good authority.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  82. theMann says:
    @william munny

    So the Democratic “majority” consists of White Race-Traitors, Blacks, Hispanics who are not multi-generational Americans, and Asians.

    So……Hispanics and Asians LOATHE Blacks and I really don’t think that they have started liking them More in the last few days, and decent Whites are going to get all over the Race-traitors sooner than the Race Traitors think.

    I don’t know what to think as I can only proceed logically while trying to analyze violently illogical people. Either:

    1. The Stick it to Whitey Raison D’etre of the Democratic voter kicks in at election time, or
    2. An increasing number of non-Black minorities in the country begin to realize that their future with the Democratic Party is going to be very, very, ugly.

    Take your pick.

  83. @Elli

    Has someone figured out how to give the talk and not get your kids (or their parents) in trouble if they repeat that talk to someone???? This is a very serious question.

  84. Anon7 says:

    Just hold on a minute. Are you saying that today’s communications majors aren’t hard charging reporters who speak with their own unique voices, just like the great broadcasters of yesteryear?

    Okay, so maybe being able to read is a useful skill…

  85. @Corvinus

    Today’s whites are self-preserving, just not in the ways to personally prefer or approve of.

    Objectively false.

    (In any meaningful sense using a plural noun “whites” meaning the group as a whole or on average.)

  86. @Farenheit

    Faren, Berkeley is 8% black or about 9,800 bodies.

    • Replies: @Marty
  87. @J Adelman

    Mr. Adelman is living in his own fantasy land.

  88. @res

    res, i just can’t get too excited.

    I think the polling suggests what it always has–Trump is a polarizing figure.

    A lot of good whites–and some minorities–*really* hate Trump. He offends them on many levels but a critical one being by challenging–even if only in vague rhetorical sensibility–the whole minoritarian virtue signaling and superiority to “deplorables” upon which their self-image and self-esteem rest. (This is interestingly less offensive to non-white minorities.)

    A lot of ordinary whites like Trump for more or less the reverse reason–saying true things and seemingly being “in their corner” though he’s delivered very little.

    Sleepy Joe has an appropriate middle class background and sensibility to beat Trump. But is otherwise a thoroughly insipid, uninspiring candidate. Only saved from “boring” by the fact that he’s not very bolted down and is now demented enough to be occasionally–unintentionally–interesting by his gaffes.

    On top of this we’ve got voters reaction to the Xi Jinping flu, and now the Democrats’ riot.

    Strikes me as another close election.

    Trump will easily win America. But whether or not that’s enough to offset Biden’s even more massive win in Rainbow … we won’t know to late at night November 3rd.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @MBlanc46
  89. ATBOTL says:

    From what I have seen, local news watchers skew working class and national news watchers skew affluent.

  90. J.Ross says:

    I try to never discuss politics in meatspace but I did attempt to help a benighted colleague years back when the Wurlitzer was pushing an early iteration of the Russia hoax. His counter was, “why would all the newsmedia be talking about this if there was nothing there?”
    Why would someone really do that? Go on the air and just lie?
    People have been made into children and a generation of lambs will beget wolves.

  91. Dtbb says:
    @Anonymous

    Shoot looters on sight, just like all of history beforehand. Put that in your bong and smoke it you douche.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  92. Elli says:

    @ Morris Applebaum IV

    Has someone figured out how to give the talk and not get your kids (or their parents) in trouble if they repeat that talk to someone???? This is a very serious question.

    I waited until they were 18 and leaving for college, could afford to because we don’t live in a truly diverse town. I had already earned their respect. Honestly, they found the discussion embarrassing and uncomfortable but the ideas were planted. “Listen to those gut feelings, don’t dismiss them because someone is black. Don’t let anyone pull the race card on you especially when it comes to dating.” The colleges warned them about certain areas, had special buses so students didn’t take public transportation. And I told my children to follow local news. They never said, “Mom, you were right,” but they definitely became racially aware and realized that urban diversity is nothing at all like the Tiger Cub diversity they grew up with.

  93. res says:
    @anon

    Thanks. That looks like the second incident described. From the video it looks terrible. I just wonder if there is more to the story (a question far too few people seem to be asking about any number of videos being circulated).

    I really don’t understand why they just walked away after taking a quick look at him lying there.

  94. @martin_2

    People are tired of old people and you brought it on yourselves. After shutting the economy what the fuck are old people doing out in the middle of riots. Old people need to be neither seen nor heard. just suck up resources and stay out of the way.

  95. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous

    “Yeah, your preferred and approved of way of White self-preservation is for Whites to say “Sorry Massa, so sorry for muh white skin. Please don’t hurt me, Massa. I admit that I have the privilege.
    What else you want me to say, Massa?”.”

    That would be a false characterization on your part. More like whites making their own decisions about race and culture in ways that they are comfortable with expressing. Your way out of your league here, friend.

    “You and your cucked-out ilk are disgusting and ridiculous.”

    (Psst) Cuck is so 2016. You might want to avoid embarrassing yourself further.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  96. Corvinus says:
    @AnotherDad

    “Trump will easily win America.”

    LOL, he may win reelection, but not easily (unless, of course, Putin bails him out). And America is quite sick of him by the way. Remember, he represents his own brand, which is whatever people want him to be. And by your own admission, he’s delivered very little.

    “A lot of ordinary whites like Trump for more or less the reverse reason–saying true things…”

    Which in HIS mind are true but in reality are not true.

    Again, get it in that thin-skinned head of yours, today’s whites are self-preserving, just not in the ways to personally prefer or approve of.

    “A lot of good whites…”

    I thought it was bad whites. Why can’t you keep these descriptions straight? Well, I do have Sailer’s Handy Dandy Guide for you.

    BAD
    Trouble maker white –> Middle Eastern and Jewish

    We feel sorry for you because you are not white –> blacks, Asians, indigenous

    Fake white –> SJW, leftist, and/or feminist designation

    PROBABLY BAD
    Inferior white –> white + black or Asian or indigenous or mutt

    You may be white, but probably not –> those who are wiggers

    Wannabe whites –> those who lighten their skin to pass as white

    Nazi white –> those who are extremist whites or in the KKK or those who love Hitler

    PROBABLY GOOD
    White, but not white –> those who oppose the Alt Right but are not leftists or feminists

    Simply white –> whites who prefer not to be labeled…receive the label

    GOOD
    True white –> Alt Right designation

    Exceptional white –> Alt Right designation + trace ancestors directly from 13 colonies

  97. anon[198] • Disclaimer says:
    @The King is a Fink

    How do you engage an otherwise well-meaning person who does not question the news being stuffed into their heads?

    People who do not question what they are being told are not well-meaning. They just like to be liked.

    I just cannot fathom why so many intelligent people appear to be so trusting.

    People who are trusting of the media are not intelligent.

    It’s best not to separate reason from good character. Reason is the foundation of good character.
    People who are not diligent about seeking the truth are not good people.
    People who diligently seek the truth do not accept easy answers, they do not want a feeling of security from agreeing with everyone around them, and with a little experience they learn to not trust the media.

  98. Kronos says:
    @IHTG

    That does play a major role. Sam Francis wrote some great stuff on the “Managerial Revolution” By James Burnham. Francis provided a updated layout on Burnham’s book published back in the late 1930s.

    • Replies: @Gabe Ruth
    , @Gabe Ruth
  99. Dennis Dale says: • Website

    They don’t. It’s chilling. The turnout here in Portland is overwhelming. The Megaphone just demonstrated it can mobilize and occupy the cities on the most ridiculous pretext. They listen rapturously to the most child-like, violent and incoherent nonsense from black speakers (“I am a brown face in a white narrative…” one began).

    See, it doesn’t matter that it’s bullshit from the start, in fact, the feat is all the more impressive. Getting people to take to the streets over genuine outrage is one thing, to get them to take to the streets for a George Floyd is something to marvel over.

    This all reminds me of Austin Powers, when the bad guys are debating their next scheme and Dr Evil finally throws up his hands and says, “oh hell, let’s just do what we always do, hi-jack some nuclear weapons and hold the world hostage”.

    Scene: The politico ghouls sitting around lamenting the series of failed schemes, Russian interference, Ukrane, Stormy Daniels, when one of their decrepit leader throws up his hands and says, “oh hell, let’s just do what we always do, jack up some black rage and hold the nation hostage.”

  100. @Reg Cæsar

    Reg, Wow. I now know Oprah’s Weight Watchers ads are not being well received in the inner city. And when they die of hypertension and diabetes and complications of obesity it will be our fault.

  101. @Whiskey

    Whiskey, if she doesn’t choke on a chicken bone between now and November.

  102. @HammerJack

    Hammer, Years ago a Federal judge took control of the Kansas City School District. He threw truck loads of money at the “problems” and achieved…Nothing. Even offered to provide taxis to take students to school. Find it on line and be prepared to be astounded. A billion thrown away.

    • Replies: @Charlotte
    , @Corvinus
  103. Charlotte says:
    @Elli

    I was about 13 when I began to realize that my parents’ stated standard-issue liberal beliefs on racial matters weren’t quite backed up by their caution around blacks and Hispanics. This really bothered me at the time: were they secretly racist? Or had they neglected to mention something important? As I got older, I started to notice some patterns myself, but I also learned, without ever being told, that you just don’t say certain things, except maybe to your closest friends, heck, you don’t even think about them in unapproved ways.

  104. Charlotte says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    I know a woman who used to teach in that district. Kids would throw their textbooks out the bus windows . . . Their parents would threaten teachers with bodily harm . . . She gave up, and left to teach at an upscale private school.

  105. Anonymous[944] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    I’m sure a lot of blacks admire Trump for his flashy lifestyle but they’re never going to vote for a Republican. Personal approval and political support are different things.

  106. Anonymous[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dtbb

    That doesn’t solve the problem of police brutality towards peaceful protestors, as in the videos in the Twitter thread.

  107. Marty says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Between 1993 and 2007, I spent almost every day in Berkeley. Believe me, no matter what the stats say, that is a black town. One reason is that lots of blacks who live in Oakland, El Cerrito or Richmond spend their free time there. For example, the U.C. Recreational Sports Facility (RSF) with 7 very nice indoor basketball courts, looks the other way as members of “the community” enter without paying or displaying I.D. And the athletic department provides part-time jobs to scads of unemployed, late-20-something ex-jocks, whether as ticket sellers, security or maintenance. In the early oughts, this program was run by an ex-Cal football special teams guy known as “pee-wee,” and he hired all his friends. In ‘06 I came upon 5 middle-eastern cab drivers downtown, and asked them what they thought about American blacks. The first guy said, “there’s something wrong with those people.” The second guy said, “they hate everyone but their own group,” and the rest nodded.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  108. @OsgoodDeLaPoopoo

    I live in Chicago. Is anyone else turned on by WLS reporter Liz Nagy?

    I wouldn’t mind doing some in-depth reporting with her, IYKWIMAIKTYD.

  109. Gabe Ruth says:
    @Kronos

    Thanks for this, I’m surprised I’d never heard of the Francis book, will check it out.

  110. Gabe Ruth says:
    @Kronos

    Thanks for this, I’m surprised I’d never heard of the Francis book, will check it out.

  111. @Marty

    marty,Thank you. I read “Berkeleyside” daily and the comments section always talks about kids from Oakland, El Cerritio and Richmond who attend Berkeley Schools. They could save a boat load of money if they send the interlopers back to their home school districts, but they won’t.

  112. Anonymous[175] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    “That would be a false characterization on your part. More like whites making their own decisions about race and culture in ways that they are comfortable with expressing.”

    No, it’s not false. Many whites are cucked out as you. Although, most are expressing it this way because they are scared or are think it will help them in their careers, not because they are evil, like you.

    “Your way out of your league here, friend.”

    I don’t even know what this is suppose to mean. Do you?

    “Cuck is so 2016. You might want to avoid embarrassing yourself further.”

    Most people who read this think you’re a cuck. so how exactly am I embarrassing myself?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  113. Lagertha says:

    Both local and national news is biased against Trump.

  114. Alden says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I’d trade you Sartre, de Beauvoir Derrida and Foucault for nothing.

  115. MBlanc46 says:
    @AnotherDad

    That’s a pretty spot on analysis, AD, although I’m rather less confident than you are that it will be close. I’m guessing that he’ll lose by a good three million votes, and this time the Dems will make sure to have PA, MI, and WI covered.

  116. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous

    “No, it’s not false. Many whites are cucked out as you.”

    You might as well call me a toaster, because cuck is again so 2016 and observably means nothing,

    “Although, most are expressing it this way because they are scared or are think it will help them in their careers, not because they are evil, like you.”

    So just because I express a different opinion than yourself, you equate me as being “evil”. That is simply bizarre behavior on your part.

    “Most people who read this think you’re a cuck.”

    Groupthink and confirmation bias. Learn about it and get back to me. Then perhaps we can have a meaningful discussion, friend.

  117. Corvinus says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    “Find it on line and be prepared to be astounded.”

    https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/the-two-billion-dollar-judge

    Given Judge Clark’s unusual role in creating this lawsuit, why shouldn’t he be blamed for the tragedy that followed? Dunn convincingly argues that Clark was not an activist judge in the tradition of Frank Johnson (who initiated judicial efforts to restructure state mental hospitals and schools for the developmentally disabled) or Jack Weinstein (who slyly orchestrated the huge Agent Orange settlement). In his initial ruling “Clark, at times, seemed contemptuous of Benson’s claims. One by one, he refuted Benson’s arguments but in the end found a rationale for the verdict.” So why did this rather cautious judge undertake such an enormous task on the basis of such an unconvincing legal argument? Dunn’s reasoning is straightforward: “the Eighth Circuit would obviously have overturned him if he had ruled differently.” Not only had that appeals court found St. Louis guilty of unconstitutional segregation in similar circumstances, but when the Eighth Circuit met en banc to review the Kansas City case, it came within a single vote of reversing Judge Clark for being too lenient with the school system. Sixteen years later, long after it had become clear that the desegregation order had been a miserable failure, the Eighth Circuit refused to allow Clark’s successor to terminate the case. Although the Supreme Court was by then urging lower court judges to be more cautious, it gave them little clear guidance on how to proceed in these troublesome cases. In short, the Supreme Court remained aloof while the Eighth Circuit remained pigheaded. Under the circumstances, Judge Clark became increasingly attached to the desegregation plan he had spent a large part of his career developing.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  118. S says:

    First of Dr Robert J Lifton’s eight criteria for thought reform (aka brain washing, or, mind control) is ‘milieu control’, that is to control information and communication.

    The second is manipulation of experiences (‘mystical manipulation’) to guide the targeted person(s) ‘spiritual advancement’. The manipulated experiences here told to us by the media is that White cops are wantonly murdering Blacks all the time without cause and for sport.

    The purported lesson to be learned for spiritual advancement is that Whites need to stop existing and simply disappear, ie end race…err…’end racism’, as the loaded language says.

    This enters into another of the Lifton’s eight criteria for mind control, ‘dispensing of existance’, ie deciding who has the right to exist, and who doesn’t.

    Milieu Control. This involves the control of information and communication both within the environment and, ultimately, within the individual, resulting in a significant degree of isolation from society at large.

    Mystical Manipulation. There is manipulation of experiences that appear spontaneous but in fact were planned and orchestrated by the group or its leaders in order to demonstrate divine authority or spiritual advancement or some special gift or talent that will then allow the leader to reinterpret events, scripture, and experiences as he or she wishes.

    Dispensing of existence. The group has the prerogative to decide who has the right to exist and who does not. This is usually not literal but means that those in the outside world are not saved, unenlightened, unconscious and they must be converted to the group’s ideology. If they do not join the group or are critical of the group, then they must be rejected by the members. Thus, the outside world loses all credibility. In conjunction, should any member leave the group, he or she must be rejected also. (Lifton, 1989)

    http://csj.org/studyindex/studymindctr/study_mindctr_lifton.htm

  119. @IHTG

    In the past, news was local and so was most people’s consciousness. You might be liberal, you might be conservative, but an injustice in the next city over was usually just somebody else’s problem. This blissful ignorance functioned as a compromise that that allowed society to exist.

    A really important reminder. Up until the very recent past, maybe pre-1920, life just happened in your limited little immediate area – there were good things, a lot of bad things, some horrible aspects to life, but it was all contained, on a small scale.

    Almost nobody knew much about what was happening in toto. Life with all its complexities could pass over our heads, you didn’t have to grapple with every community or locality’s problem. Everything was simpler.

    • Agree: vhrm
  120. @Corvinus

    Corvi, Thank you, but the end result, regardless of the judge, was a dismal failure.

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