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Another update on the evolving politics of Houston, the once-conservative city that David Brooks holds up for Republicans as preferable to “a dying white America:”

“For the life of me, I can’t figure out why so many Republicans prefer a dying white America to a place like, say, Houston.” – Brooks

Texas is the Future

Can Democrats reconquer the Lone Star State?
By Andrew Cockburn

March 2017

Ask anyone who was present at Hillary Clinton’s presumptive victory celebration on November 8 and they will tell you of the stunned silence, broken only by sobs, that settled across the vast glass enclosure of the Javits Center in Manhattan. Upstairs, in the suite where the candidate was closeted with her family and associates, the trauma was even more intense. As one attendee later reported to me, it featured the “full range of human emotions: screams, shock, fainting. Bill moved immediately to blame.” The former president, I was told, singled out campaign manager Robby Mook: “‘We should have fired that asshole months ago!’ It was awful.”

This funereal atmosphere was replicated wherever Democrats were gathered across the nation — with one instructive exception. In the Heights neighborhood of Houston, hundreds of revelers thronged bars along Studewood Street late into the night. “Any Houston Democrat who was anybody was there,” Doug Miller, a local reporter, told me later. “I looked up at the TV screens on the walls, I could see the whole country turning red, but everyone there seemed happy!”

The reason was simple. Unlike the rest of the country, Houston Democrats had a full-scale Republican rout to celebrate. The party had swept the polls in Harris County, the vast region encompassing Houston, arguably the nation’s most diverse city (as locals never tire of repeating). With 4.5 million inhabitants, the county is more populous than half the states in America. Now Harris voters had elected a Democratic district attorney — a very powerful post in Texas law enforcement — for the first time in thirty-six years.

By the way, the Cockburns are a huge clan of journalists and other public figures (e.g., actress Olivia Wilde) who are related to the huge clan of scribbling Waughs.

 
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  1. The money quote:

    “Demographics are not destiny,” Craig Varoga remarked to me at the end of a long conversation. “But demographics with hard work and smart decisions are destiny.”

    In a post-election memo, Zermeno discussed the various victories and near-victories scored around the state. “In the deep red South,” she wrote, “this election demonstrated what we’ve believed about Texas for many years: Texas is the future. . . . Sí se puede.” Yes we can.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @syonredux

    Sí se puede pero no se debe.

  2. In the interest of full disclosure, the New York Times should start identifying (((David Brooks))) as an Israeli news columnist. If it did that, his articles would make more sense.

    • Agree: AndrewR
    • Replies: @SFG
    @JohnnyWalker123

    No actual Israeli would be that mealy-mouthed.

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @JohnnyWalker123

    IMHO, replace "Israeli" with "Likud Party" and the observation would be even more accurate. Not even all Israeli's are as bat-shit demented as Brooks.

    , @Sean
    @JohnnyWalker123


    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/03/opinion/trumpism-at-its-best-straight-up.html?_r=0
    There used to be Republican foreign policy hawks, people who believed that it was in America’s interest to serve as a global policeman, actively preserving a democratic world order. Trump explicitly repudiated this worldview,
     
    The current world order in the mIddle East spells doom for a Jewish Israel, which needs the situation fluid rather than in suspended animation. Brooks doesn't dare call it like it is, not for Israel anyway.
  3. Part of the demographic change in Houston was from Hurricane Katrina refugees who never returned to Louisiana. I can’t imagine they added anything positive they added to the workforce or economy of the Houston metro area. The city is also represented in Congress by the certifiable loon Shelia Jackson Lee in Congress. Why would people from any other part of the country want to emulate that?

  4. Can the Democrats retake Texas? Sure they can — just like the Republicans took Wisconsin and Michigan, once considered impossible. Nothing is cast in stone.

    But the prospect of the Democrats taking Texas ought to keep you awake at night. They’ve already locked up California for the foreseeable future — California didn’t even have a Republican Senate candidate last fall. Add California’s 55 electoral votes to Texas’s 38, and if they get Florida (a 1% +/- swing state) with 29, that’s 122 guaranteed electoral votes right off the top in the three biggest states and it’s Katy bar the door once you add in New York, Illinois, etc.

    And they know it. Trump had better go balls-to-the-wall to prevent this from happening, or else his presidency will merely delay the inevitable for four years.

    • Replies: @Busby
    @Dr. X

    California eliminated party lines from their balloting. Effectively, they used the initiative process to outlaw party primaries.

    , @snorlax
    @Dr. X

    Yeah, recent trends in Texas are legitimately terrifying. In 2004 Bush won Texas 61-38; Trump won it 52-43. If trends continue it'll be a swing state by the next election and Democrat-leaning by 2024.

    Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian, @Anon

    , @Lot
    @Dr. X

    Long term, sure Texas can go democrat. But the core GOP vote is still very large, and its turnout was depressed this round by having Trump humiliate and taunt local boy Ted Cruz, who would have probably won if Trump never got into the race. Not to mention repudiate local boy W Bush and crush quasi-local boy Jeb Bush.

    A lot of Republican leaders in Texas, used to winning easily in a fair fight, are loath to engage in the type of skulduggery that helps the GOP in swing states. Ed Blum sued the GOP-run state government for not gerrymandering enough (specifically, for counting people not eligible to vote in drawing districts, which is exactly what every single state has done for decades).

    There is simply no chance of Texas becoming any sort of state a Democrat would win to put him over the top against Trump in 2020. 2032, who knows.

    Replies: @snorlax

    , @jon
    @Dr. X


    But the prospect of the Democrats taking Texas ought to keep you awake at night.
     
    Republicans in Texas and Florida should be pushing for the Congressional district method of allocating electoral votes (as they do in Maine and Nebraska) before it's too late.
    , @Bill
    @Dr. X

    It has already happened. Non-Hispanic whites are 34% of Texas births, as of 2014. Nothing short of ethnic cleansing is going to stop TX from moving "left." I assume that, sometime in the next decade or two, the energy industry is going to start buying the Democratic party. Or, maybe they already have. I don't pay attention to TX politics at all.

    The GOPe are right that winning a larger proportion of Hispanic votes is eventually mandatory for the GOP (or its successor). They are just comically wrong about how to do it. Muh opportunity society! Immigration is an act of love! Look at my brown, Spanish-speaking, retarded child!!

  5. @JohnnyWalker123
    In the interest of full disclosure, the New York Times should start identifying (((David Brooks))) as an Israeli news columnist. If it did that, his articles would make more sense.

    Replies: @SFG, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Sean

    No actual Israeli would be that mealy-mouthed.

  6. Usually, something that is dying is killed.

    It sounds like a case of Killing White America.

    • Replies: @Amasius
    @Anon


    It sounds like a case of Killing White America.

     

    I'm sure Bill O'Reilly will do a book on that... NOT.
  7. Sadly, this is happening in my home state of Georgia. There were a couple counties that went Democrat for the first time in forty years (when Jimmy Carter was elected). In one of these counties, a Hillary tour bus was caught illegally dumping raw sewage, but she still won that county because of all the immigrants.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @JohnnyD


    Sadly, this is happening in my home state of Georgia. There were a couple counties that went Democrat for the first time in forty years
     
    The reverse is happening elsewhere. There are some excellent maps show all the Midwestern counties won by Obama that Trump won. He lost Minnesota by 1.4 points, which was less than his popular vote loss. It has gone from one of the most left-wing states to now just barely right-of-center.

    Obama beat Romney in Iowa by 9.5%, Trump beat Clinton by 9.6%. A 19 point swing, statewide, in just one cycle. Something really happened between Nov 2012 and Nov 2016.

    Replies: @snorlax, @Jus' Sayin'...

    , @Anonymous
    @JohnnyD

    If you look at the democratic vote share in Georgia between 2012 and 2016, it was basically stuck at 45%. Hillary improved by just 0.15pp in four years.

    The margin of victory collapsed from 8% to 5% in these four years largely on the account of the libertarian vote which exploded by 3X(the same story as in Texas). There was also, to a much lesser extent, the Green vote effect, which would otherwise had gone to $hillary.

  8. David Brooks needs to live in Houston’s Third Ward for at least one full year, and commute to Downtown every day – it isn’t far. Or better yet, let him live in Sunnyside. Then let him speak from experience instead of ignorance.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    I'm whiter than most neonazis and have lived in the 3rd Ward for 14 years and it is less dangerous and full of white folks. Only the well off can afford to buy here now. Sunnyside is still old school so dangerous.

  9. The city is also represented in Congress by the certifiable loon Shelia Jackson Lee in Congress. Why would people from any other part of the country want to emulate that?

    Houston “liberals” are nuts, of course. Just like most big city “liberals.”

    But the conservatives are batshit insane, and Michael Berry is all the proof you need.

    Berry is Houston’s most popular local conservative talking head. Immensely popular with the true-blue Reagan lovin’, small government crowd who love diversity, Israel, and immigration as long as it’s legal, and hate liberals, A-rabs, and racism, Berry is making a ton of money. So much that he was able to open his own night club, the Redneck Country Club, which is doing land office business, and is where Ted Cruz chose to hold his victory party the night of the Texas GOP primary.

    Berry loves to show that he’s “un-PC” by posing in Confederate bandannas, smoking cigars, constantly making fun of Sheila Jackson-Lee and Maxine Waters for their obvious stupidity. He even has the gay blackface welfare mama drag queen Shirley Q. Liquor on all the time to ridicule stupid blacks.

    At the same time, Berry is married to a very dark woman from India. Making matters worse, they have adopted two Ethiopes.

    That’s the exact opposite of everything conservatives used to stand for. Until quite recently, Michael Berry would have been seen as a freak by conservatives, and treated as an outcast and pariah. Until a few years ago, nearly all whites would have regarded any white man with a “family” like that as mentally ill and/or morally degenerate. And the more conservative a person was, the more disgusted they would have been at this. But, today, a guy like that is the leader of the cuckservatives in Houston.

    Now, you’d think that even if an Indian wife and two adopted black sons didn’t make Houston conservatives go WTF?, when Michael Berry got caught in a hit and run leaving a gay bar five years ago, that might’ve woken a few of them up.

    But no, Berry paid the guy whose car he rammed a couple thousand bucks to drop the charges. Then he went on the air and said there was a very simple explanation for why he was in a gay bar – it was hot, he was thirsty, and they had cold beer inside. Never mind that the bar is considered the nastiest gay dive in Houston, Berry is on video watching the drag show that took place that night, or that the bar is an out of the way hole in the wall that no one ever stumbles into by accident.

    Never mind all that. The conservative hero with the Indian wife and two black kids said he was only at Houston’s nastiest gay bar to get a cold beer, and that’s good enough for the conservatives of Houston. Far from slowing Berry down, his hit and run leaving a gay bar only caused his fans to rally around him and defend him from the “lies of the lamestream media.”

    It gets harder every day to feel sorry for “conservatives.”

    • Replies: @Jasper Been
    @40 Acres and A Kardashian

    Very informative and entertaining comment!!!

  10. Lot says:

    White America is not dying. In slow demographic decline, sure, but those are different things. Absent mass immigration, this would be no big deal. And it would partly reverse itself too due to less inequality, more natural resources per capita, lower taxes and less transfer payments to the mass immigrants, and cheaper family formation.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Lot

    It is dying. Absent European immigration, it would already be in natural decline. The average age of White Americans is something like 42 or 43 years. Japan is at 44 IIRC, ethnic Germans are at a similar age and they are also in a natural decline.

    Without immigration, population growth in White America would be declining, although quite slowly. And this doesn't count intermarriage, emigration etc.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  11. @Dr. X
    Can the Democrats retake Texas? Sure they can -- just like the Republicans took Wisconsin and Michigan, once considered impossible. Nothing is cast in stone.

    But the prospect of the Democrats taking Texas ought to keep you awake at night. They've already locked up California for the foreseeable future -- California didn't even have a Republican Senate candidate last fall. Add California's 55 electoral votes to Texas's 38, and if they get Florida (a 1% +/- swing state) with 29, that's 122 guaranteed electoral votes right off the top in the three biggest states and it's Katy bar the door once you add in New York, Illinois, etc.

    And they know it. Trump had better go balls-to-the-wall to prevent this from happening, or else his presidency will merely delay the inevitable for four years.

    Replies: @Busby, @snorlax, @Lot, @jon, @Bill

    California eliminated party lines from their balloting. Effectively, they used the initiative process to outlaw party primaries.

  12. @Dr. X
    Can the Democrats retake Texas? Sure they can -- just like the Republicans took Wisconsin and Michigan, once considered impossible. Nothing is cast in stone.

    But the prospect of the Democrats taking Texas ought to keep you awake at night. They've already locked up California for the foreseeable future -- California didn't even have a Republican Senate candidate last fall. Add California's 55 electoral votes to Texas's 38, and if they get Florida (a 1% +/- swing state) with 29, that's 122 guaranteed electoral votes right off the top in the three biggest states and it's Katy bar the door once you add in New York, Illinois, etc.

    And they know it. Trump had better go balls-to-the-wall to prevent this from happening, or else his presidency will merely delay the inevitable for four years.

    Replies: @Busby, @snorlax, @Lot, @jon, @Bill

    Yeah, recent trends in Texas are legitimately terrifying. In 2004 Bush won Texas 61-38; Trump won it 52-43. If trends continue it’ll be a swing state by the next election and Democrat-leaning by 2024.

    • Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian
    @snorlax

    Yes, it's a bit too late to try to turn things around peacefully. Once Texas flips, the GOP will never occupy the White House again.

    Maybe Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh should've said something about immigration before 2016.

    But they were too busy making millions going on about Clinton's sex life and making Barney Frank parody songs for a couple of decades.

    , @Anon
    @snorlax

    The GOP margin in 2016 is artifically low because of the high vote share for the libertarian party. In 2012, Romney got 57%, the libertarian got something like 1% and Obama got 41%. In 2016, the libertarian vote tripled and you had the neocon shill McMullin or whatever his name was also taking votes, something like 0.5%. Those factors are distortion the situation on the ground.

    I think the dems have a solid floor in the low 40s and they could possibly raise it to mid-40s by 2020. I don't see them getting over 50% until 2032.

    But the real threat to that are the libertarians. If the GOP becomes more hard-right even after Trump, then we may see a new normal where libertarians start getting something like 3% instead of 1%, which would eat into the GOP margin.

    If that happens, the dems won't need 50%, but could make do with 48%, which could happen by 2028.

    Either way, I expect Texas to turn blue by 2032 at the latest. 4 years sooner if the libertarians act like the spoil.

  13. Lot says:
    @JohnnyD
    Sadly, this is happening in my home state of Georgia. There were a couple counties that went Democrat for the first time in forty years (when Jimmy Carter was elected). In one of these counties, a Hillary tour bus was caught illegally dumping raw sewage, but she still won that county because of all the immigrants.

    Replies: @Lot, @Anonymous

    Sadly, this is happening in my home state of Georgia. There were a couple counties that went Democrat for the first time in forty years

    The reverse is happening elsewhere. There are some excellent maps show all the Midwestern counties won by Obama that Trump won. He lost Minnesota by 1.4 points, which was less than his popular vote loss. It has gone from one of the most left-wing states to now just barely right-of-center.

    Obama beat Romney in Iowa by 9.5%, Trump beat Clinton by 9.6%. A 19 point swing, statewide, in just one cycle. Something really happened between Nov 2012 and Nov 2016.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @Lot

    Ok, but Iowa has 6 electoral votes and Texas has 38 and Georgia has 16.

    Replies: @Lot

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Lot


    "Something really happened between Nov 2012 and Nov 2016."
     
    Yes! The grotesque and dangerous incompetence of our first affirmative action President and his affirmative action picks for key administration posts, particularly his Secretary of State and both his AGs, was on display in an even less restrained form than in the bozo's first term.
  14. Maybe some West Virginians should move to Houston. Multiple wins all around

  15. @snorlax
    @Dr. X

    Yeah, recent trends in Texas are legitimately terrifying. In 2004 Bush won Texas 61-38; Trump won it 52-43. If trends continue it'll be a swing state by the next election and Democrat-leaning by 2024.

    Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian, @Anon

    Yes, it’s a bit too late to try to turn things around peacefully. Once Texas flips, the GOP will never occupy the White House again.

    Maybe Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh should’ve said something about immigration before 2016.

    But they were too busy making millions going on about Clinton’s sex life and making Barney Frank parody songs for a couple of decades.

  16. @Lot
    @JohnnyD


    Sadly, this is happening in my home state of Georgia. There were a couple counties that went Democrat for the first time in forty years
     
    The reverse is happening elsewhere. There are some excellent maps show all the Midwestern counties won by Obama that Trump won. He lost Minnesota by 1.4 points, which was less than his popular vote loss. It has gone from one of the most left-wing states to now just barely right-of-center.

    Obama beat Romney in Iowa by 9.5%, Trump beat Clinton by 9.6%. A 19 point swing, statewide, in just one cycle. Something really happened between Nov 2012 and Nov 2016.

    Replies: @snorlax, @Jus' Sayin'...

    Ok, but Iowa has 6 electoral votes and Texas has 38 and Georgia has 16.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @snorlax


    Ok, but Iowa has 6 electoral votes and Texas has 38 and Georgia has 16.
     
    Iowa has 7 EVs.

    Trump won Michigan by 0.3%, Wisconsin by 0.7%, and Pennsylvania by 0.8%. Those states, not Texas (9.0%) and Georgia (5.1%), are what Trump needs to worry about winning in 2020.

    GA's margin is deceptively too, since Clinton and many polls thought it was winnable, and she dumped a lot of money into it, while Trump did not. (We have a good article about the English data-miners at Cambridge Analytica who worked with and convinced Bannon to correctly focus his limited resources on the Rust Belt. On the other hand, we don't have any detail on Hillary's disasterous decision to focus heavy money on unwinnable GA, NC, and OH while almost completely ignoring WI and MI. She didn't need GA, NC, and OH at all, she just needed to hold PA, WI, and MI, but only really played in PA and a little bit in MI.

    I'd also like to see the internal Clinton campaign e-mails when Michael Moore started predicting that Trump would win Michigan and the election.

    “To millions and millions of Americans, this was music to their ears,” Moore said following GOP convention festivities Wednesday night. “We’ve been sitting in our bubble, having a good laugh at this total shitshow, but the truth is that this plays to a lot of people that he has to win to become the next president.”

    Moore said Trump had the advantage because he could pursue a “Brexit” strategy of targeting old industrial heartlands harmed by deindustrialization.

    “The middle of England [equivalent] is Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, and Pennsylvania,” he said. “Mitt Romney lost by 64 electoral votes. The total electoral votes of those four states in the Rust Belt: 64. All he has to do is win those four states.”

    Moore said Trump’s message on trade could easily resonate with the voters. A promise to put tariffs on imported cars, he said, was “music to people’s ears” during the Michigan primary.

     

    What would Michael Moore know about Michigan?
  17. Lot says:
    @Dr. X
    Can the Democrats retake Texas? Sure they can -- just like the Republicans took Wisconsin and Michigan, once considered impossible. Nothing is cast in stone.

    But the prospect of the Democrats taking Texas ought to keep you awake at night. They've already locked up California for the foreseeable future -- California didn't even have a Republican Senate candidate last fall. Add California's 55 electoral votes to Texas's 38, and if they get Florida (a 1% +/- swing state) with 29, that's 122 guaranteed electoral votes right off the top in the three biggest states and it's Katy bar the door once you add in New York, Illinois, etc.

    And they know it. Trump had better go balls-to-the-wall to prevent this from happening, or else his presidency will merely delay the inevitable for four years.

    Replies: @Busby, @snorlax, @Lot, @jon, @Bill

    Long term, sure Texas can go democrat. But the core GOP vote is still very large, and its turnout was depressed this round by having Trump humiliate and taunt local boy Ted Cruz, who would have probably won if Trump never got into the race. Not to mention repudiate local boy W Bush and crush quasi-local boy Jeb Bush.

    A lot of Republican leaders in Texas, used to winning easily in a fair fight, are loath to engage in the type of skulduggery that helps the GOP in swing states. Ed Blum sued the GOP-run state government for not gerrymandering enough (specifically, for counting people not eligible to vote in drawing districts, which is exactly what every single state has done for decades).

    There is simply no chance of Texas becoming any sort of state a Democrat would win to put him over the top against Trump in 2020. 2032, who knows.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @Lot

    But you'd have said that about Virginia in '04. Or New Jersey in '88.

  18. @Lot
    @Dr. X

    Long term, sure Texas can go democrat. But the core GOP vote is still very large, and its turnout was depressed this round by having Trump humiliate and taunt local boy Ted Cruz, who would have probably won if Trump never got into the race. Not to mention repudiate local boy W Bush and crush quasi-local boy Jeb Bush.

    A lot of Republican leaders in Texas, used to winning easily in a fair fight, are loath to engage in the type of skulduggery that helps the GOP in swing states. Ed Blum sued the GOP-run state government for not gerrymandering enough (specifically, for counting people not eligible to vote in drawing districts, which is exactly what every single state has done for decades).

    There is simply no chance of Texas becoming any sort of state a Democrat would win to put him over the top against Trump in 2020. 2032, who knows.

    Replies: @snorlax

    But you’d have said that about Virginia in ’04. Or New Jersey in ’88.

  19. Lot says:
    @snorlax
    @Lot

    Ok, but Iowa has 6 electoral votes and Texas has 38 and Georgia has 16.

    Replies: @Lot

    Ok, but Iowa has 6 electoral votes and Texas has 38 and Georgia has 16.

    Iowa has 7 EVs.

    Trump won Michigan by 0.3%, Wisconsin by 0.7%, and Pennsylvania by 0.8%. Those states, not Texas (9.0%) and Georgia (5.1%), are what Trump needs to worry about winning in 2020.

    GA’s margin is deceptively too, since Clinton and many polls thought it was winnable, and she dumped a lot of money into it, while Trump did not. (We have a good article about the English data-miners at Cambridge Analytica who worked with and convinced Bannon to correctly focus his limited resources on the Rust Belt. On the other hand, we don’t have any detail on Hillary’s disasterous decision to focus heavy money on unwinnable GA, NC, and OH while almost completely ignoring WI and MI. She didn’t need GA, NC, and OH at all, she just needed to hold PA, WI, and MI, but only really played in PA and a little bit in MI.

    I’d also like to see the internal Clinton campaign e-mails when Michael Moore started predicting that Trump would win Michigan and the election.

    “To millions and millions of Americans, this was music to their ears,” Moore said following GOP convention festivities Wednesday night. “We’ve been sitting in our bubble, having a good laugh at this total shitshow, but the truth is that this plays to a lot of people that he has to win to become the next president.”

    Moore said Trump had the advantage because he could pursue a “Brexit” strategy of targeting old industrial heartlands harmed by deindustrialization.

    “The middle of England [equivalent] is Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, and Pennsylvania,” he said. “Mitt Romney lost by 64 electoral votes. The total electoral votes of those four states in the Rust Belt: 64. All he has to do is win those four states.”

    Moore said Trump’s message on trade could easily resonate with the voters. A promise to put tariffs on imported cars, he said, was “music to people’s ears” during the Michigan primary.

    What would Michael Moore know about Michigan?

  20. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @snorlax
    @Dr. X

    Yeah, recent trends in Texas are legitimately terrifying. In 2004 Bush won Texas 61-38; Trump won it 52-43. If trends continue it'll be a swing state by the next election and Democrat-leaning by 2024.

    Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian, @Anon

    The GOP margin in 2016 is artifically low because of the high vote share for the libertarian party. In 2012, Romney got 57%, the libertarian got something like 1% and Obama got 41%. In 2016, the libertarian vote tripled and you had the neocon shill McMullin or whatever his name was also taking votes, something like 0.5%. Those factors are distortion the situation on the ground.

    I think the dems have a solid floor in the low 40s and they could possibly raise it to mid-40s by 2020. I don’t see them getting over 50% until 2032.

    But the real threat to that are the libertarians. If the GOP becomes more hard-right even after Trump, then we may see a new normal where libertarians start getting something like 3% instead of 1%, which would eat into the GOP margin.

    If that happens, the dems won’t need 50%, but could make do with 48%, which could happen by 2028.

    Either way, I expect Texas to turn blue by 2032 at the latest. 4 years sooner if the libertarians act like the spoil.

  21. It’s mathematics like these that convince me the only option is to go to ground among like minded people and prepare for the worst. It’s Appomattox all over again; it’s nothing to do with resolve or abilities. Perhaps we can carry on persevering at the fringes, as have the Afghans or the Berbers.

    I take some small comfort in the reassurance from classy advertisers that “Trump is giving homeowners until September 2017 to use the government’s free refinancing program!”

    (It used to be Obama always extending these deadlines….)

    Where are Doughnut and the Authentic Jazzman, anyhow? Their inanity used to cheer me up, as well.

  22. Anonymous [AKA "3rd Ward Houstonian"] says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson
    David Brooks needs to live in Houston's Third Ward for at least one full year, and commute to Downtown every day - it isn't far. Or better yet, let him live in Sunnyside. Then let him speak from experience instead of ignorance.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I’m whiter than most neonazis and have lived in the 3rd Ward for 14 years and it is less dangerous and full of white folks. Only the well off can afford to buy here now. Sunnyside is still old school so dangerous.

  23. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    White America is not dying. In slow demographic decline, sure, but those are different things. Absent mass immigration, this would be no big deal. And it would partly reverse itself too due to less inequality, more natural resources per capita, lower taxes and less transfer payments to the mass immigrants, and cheaper family formation.

    Replies: @Anon

    It is dying. Absent European immigration, it would already be in natural decline. The average age of White Americans is something like 42 or 43 years. Japan is at 44 IIRC, ethnic Germans are at a similar age and they are also in a natural decline.

    Without immigration, population growth in White America would be declining, although quite slowly. And this doesn’t count intermarriage, emigration etc.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anon


    It is dying. Absent European immigration, it would already be in natural decline. The average age of White Americans is something like 42 or 43 years. Japan is at 44 IIRC, ethnic Germans are at a similar age and they are also in a natural decline.
     
    It is not dying. It is being displaced. There is a difference. There are close to 200 million white Americans. If white America were its own nation, it would be in the top five. Even with an aging population, there are still a large number of younger people having kids. They might not have the 2.1 TFR, but they are still having kids which means whites are not dying out. White America, absent massive immigration, would be in no danger. In other words we have a problem that was totally preventable and which has been deliberately enacted.

    The only reason people are sweating it out, and there is very good reason to sweat it out, is that our elites are bringing in replacements faster than we are having kids.

    Japan has lower birth rates, but there is zero threat that they will lose their nation because they are not being displaced. If the USA and Western Europe were not being flooded right now, they would not be in the position of being displaced either.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anon

  24. Anonymous [AKA "Anon(again)"] says:
    @JohnnyD
    Sadly, this is happening in my home state of Georgia. There were a couple counties that went Democrat for the first time in forty years (when Jimmy Carter was elected). In one of these counties, a Hillary tour bus was caught illegally dumping raw sewage, but she still won that county because of all the immigrants.

    Replies: @Lot, @Anonymous

    If you look at the democratic vote share in Georgia between 2012 and 2016, it was basically stuck at 45%. Hillary improved by just 0.15pp in four years.

    The margin of victory collapsed from 8% to 5% in these four years largely on the account of the libertarian vote which exploded by 3X(the same story as in Texas). There was also, to a much lesser extent, the Green vote effect, which would otherwise had gone to $hillary.

  25. Some interesting passages from the article:

    “Richards eked out a slim victory among a coalition that included white suburban voters — but lost her reelection bid to the younger George Bush in 1994, ushering in an age of darkness for Texas Democrats.

    That pall has spread across the country at an accelerating rate, as more and more statehouses and governors’ mansions fall under Republican occupation. Yet Texas, after leading the country in a slide to the right, might now be showing us the way out.

    Amid the happy lawyers, journalists, and other movers and shakers at the victory parties, one group of seventy-five men and women, who had arrived on a chartered bus, stood out. Most of them were Latinos, like Petra Vargas, a Mexican-born hotel worker who had spent the day walking her fellow immigrants to the polls. Others were African Americans, such as Rosie McCutcheon, who had campaigned relentlessly for the ticket while raising six grandchildren on a tiny income. All of them wore turquoise T-shirts bearing the logo top. Not only had they made a key contribution to the day’s results — they represented a new and entirely promising way of doing politics in Texas.”

    This reminds of what a Waspy Harvard educated chap told me in (the English) Cambridge that even though he was democrat, he didn’t see a role for himself in the party in a decade. Some slight ethnic politics may have been prevalent in America in the 50’s-70’s etc (ethnic whites like the Irish, Italian & Jews voting for Dems) but the Lebanonisation (my word of the week) of the vote, where race becomes the single most important factor isn’t far off now.

    Democracy by demography is a dangerous strategy to embark on.

    • Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian
    @Zachary Latif


    Democracy by demography is a dangerous strategy to embark on.

     

    True.

    But we should've thought about that before white kids made up around 40% in America. Like, when we actually embarked on this policy, way back in 1965.

    But we didn't, and now here we are.

    Let the games begin.
  26. “Dying White America”. You know, get a move on, jump in your graves..and all that infrastructure, all those nice things that you’ve made, we’ll have all that.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    @Tacitus

    I saw the movie Logan today. It was a very good comic book movie, in my opinion, but it had Dying White America written all over it, from the imagery, to the demographics of the cast and to the script itself.

  27. @Zachary Latif
    Some interesting passages from the article:

    "Richards eked out a slim victory among a coalition that included white suburban voters — but lost her reelection bid to the younger George Bush in 1994, ushering in an age of darkness for Texas Democrats.

    That pall has spread across the country at an accelerating rate, as more and more statehouses and governors’ mansions fall under Republican occupation. Yet Texas, after leading the country in a slide to the right, might now be showing us the way out.

    Amid the happy lawyers, journalists, and other movers and shakers at the victory parties, one group of seventy-five men and women, who had arrived on a chartered bus, stood out. Most of them were Latinos, like Petra Vargas, a Mexican-born hotel worker who had spent the day walking her fellow immigrants to the polls. Others were African Americans, such as Rosie McCutcheon, who had campaigned relentlessly for the ticket while raising six grandchildren on a tiny income. All of them wore turquoise T-shirts bearing the logo top. Not only had they made a key contribution to the day’s results — they represented a new and entirely promising way of doing politics in Texas."

    This reminds of what a Waspy Harvard educated chap told me in (the English) Cambridge that even though he was democrat, he didn't see a role for himself in the party in a decade. Some slight ethnic politics may have been prevalent in America in the 50's-70's etc (ethnic whites like the Irish, Italian & Jews voting for Dems) but the Lebanonisation (my word of the week) of the vote, where race becomes the single most important factor isn't far off now.

    Democracy by demography is a dangerous strategy to embark on.

    Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian

    Democracy by demography is a dangerous strategy to embark on.

    True.

    But we should’ve thought about that before white kids made up around 40% in America. Like, when we actually embarked on this policy, way back in 1965.

    But we didn’t, and now here we are.

    Let the games begin.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  28. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    @Lot

    It is dying. Absent European immigration, it would already be in natural decline. The average age of White Americans is something like 42 or 43 years. Japan is at 44 IIRC, ethnic Germans are at a similar age and they are also in a natural decline.

    Without immigration, population growth in White America would be declining, although quite slowly. And this doesn't count intermarriage, emigration etc.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    It is dying. Absent European immigration, it would already be in natural decline. The average age of White Americans is something like 42 or 43 years. Japan is at 44 IIRC, ethnic Germans are at a similar age and they are also in a natural decline.

    It is not dying. It is being displaced. There is a difference. There are close to 200 million white Americans. If white America were its own nation, it would be in the top five. Even with an aging population, there are still a large number of younger people having kids. They might not have the 2.1 TFR, but they are still having kids which means whites are not dying out. White America, absent massive immigration, would be in no danger. In other words we have a problem that was totally preventable and which has been deliberately enacted.

    The only reason people are sweating it out, and there is very good reason to sweat it out, is that our elites are bringing in replacements faster than we are having kids.

    Japan has lower birth rates, but there is zero threat that they will lose their nation because they are not being displaced. If the USA and Western Europe were not being flooded right now, they would not be in the position of being displaced either.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous

    I agree with what you say, and it is worth thinking about what is the root cause of all this demographic displacement. I mean "root cause" as in real actual root cause, not the Prog "root cause" that is just another way to blame whitey.

    Near as I can figure a subtle but seismic shift took place when the establishment of the welfare state reached the point that 1) it became viable to have have kids as a paid ward of the state (i.e., to become a government-paid breeder), and 2) one no longer needed their own progeny to care for them in old age because the government was guaranteeing them the proceeds of everyone else's progeny as a pension.

    These twin attacks squeezed the traditional and eternal covenant between the generations from both sides, and inserted a malign and potent state tutelary power in the middle.

    The obligation to have children and to raise them well was gone because the government was promising to make some other sucker's children fund your retirement. The incentive to have children was magnified for those of little means whose only ability was reproduction, while the incentive was diminished for those who lives were otherwise productive. In between, the state owns each generation more and more. The state trains your [barely the appropriate pronoun anymore] children what to say, how to think and directs what they will do. If they accomplish anything profitable, the state will garnish most of it to give to their more conformist minions. You can try to opt out, but the cost to do so rises relentlessly.

    The long term effect of this have been foreseeable, inexorable, and disastrous. The productive, creative and orderly are stagnant and dispossessed with open encouragement to die. The parasitical, inept and chaotic multiply and rampage with open celebration.

    Reverse or die.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Anon
    @Anonymous

    A society which doesn't reproduce itself is, in effect, dying. Without European immigration, white America would be declining, like Japan. Not as fast, but still declining. And as I pointed out, this assumed perfect endogamy. If you count intermarriage, emigration etc, white America's demographic decline would be even faster.

    Secondly, a lot of people in the non-Hispanic white column are Middle Easterners and others. They're not white.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome

  29. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    The problem of American Discourse is so much is conveyed without being spelled out.
    Those with the cultural antennas pick up the signals. Those without don’t get it.

    It’s like Matt Groenig(I hate him) said adults and kids pick up different things from TV shows. Kids just see funny stuff, but adults pick up the references and allusions.

    So, Brooks seems to be saying one thing to ALL AMERICANS but signaling something else to members of his circle, his tribe, and etc.
    This is easier to pull off in the academia where the audience is limited. Also, academics can resort to esoterica. But when people like Brooks write for millions of readers all across the US(and the world), they have to convincingly sound as they have the interests of all Americans(or even all the world) in mind. It’s harder to play mind-tricks. But their advice to humanity increasingly sounds more loopy given all that is going on. I mean… really? Houston?
    And it goes for Thomas Friedman too. I mean do people like him really think Hungary will do better to follow in the footsteps of Sweden? Is Londonistan really a wonder of wonders?

    There is the power fought with naked struggle and hardware, but there is another power that is specific to a culture. If you’re not part of that culture, some of the power dynamics make little or no sense. And it’s not rational or logical. It is emotional, cultural, atavistic. But it’s powerful, possibly more powerful than any rational or material factor.

    Consider the scene in THE GODFATHER PART 2. Pentangeli has the goods on the Corleones, and he’s gonna spill the beans. He is well-protected, and the Corleone’s cannot get to him. He is convinced that Michael tried to have him killed. And he has the entire US government on his side. All he has to do is spill the beans. And the Corleones have NOTHING to stop him with… except one card up their sleeve. Sicilian honor. Corleones shame Pentangeli by having his older brother show up at the hearing. Sicilians have this honor thing, and they are not supposed to spill the beans on other Sicilians to outsiders. That’d be an infirmia. The effect is emotional and psychological but all too real. People at the hearing have no idea what is going on. Later, Kaye has no idea what happened either. Michael says, “It was between the brothers.” Yet, those inside the culture understand the signals and feelings. It’s more dear to them than life, this honor.
    Jews don’t have an honor culture, but they do have a sense of tribal justice, which means the interests of the tribe must come first. In some ways, Brooks seems like a well-meaning guy who wants good things for everyone. I don’t see him as a nasty person like some like Jennifer Rubin and Victoria Nuland who really are vicious. But he is still part of the community, the signals of which are often missed by outsiders. But if one learns of how his community operates, we can sort of decode it.

    Gentiles need an Enigma Decoder machine.

    If Sicilians have Omerta, Jews have the Schwarz.

  30. @Anon
    Usually, something that is dying is killed.

    It sounds like a case of Killing White America.

    Replies: @Amasius

    It sounds like a case of Killing White America.

    I’m sure Bill O’Reilly will do a book on that… NOT.

  31. @Dr. X
    Can the Democrats retake Texas? Sure they can -- just like the Republicans took Wisconsin and Michigan, once considered impossible. Nothing is cast in stone.

    But the prospect of the Democrats taking Texas ought to keep you awake at night. They've already locked up California for the foreseeable future -- California didn't even have a Republican Senate candidate last fall. Add California's 55 electoral votes to Texas's 38, and if they get Florida (a 1% +/- swing state) with 29, that's 122 guaranteed electoral votes right off the top in the three biggest states and it's Katy bar the door once you add in New York, Illinois, etc.

    And they know it. Trump had better go balls-to-the-wall to prevent this from happening, or else his presidency will merely delay the inevitable for four years.

    Replies: @Busby, @snorlax, @Lot, @jon, @Bill

    But the prospect of the Democrats taking Texas ought to keep you awake at night.

    Republicans in Texas and Florida should be pushing for the Congressional district method of allocating electoral votes (as they do in Maine and Nebraska) before it’s too late.

  32. @syonredux
    The money quote:

    “Demographics are not destiny,” Craig Varoga remarked to me at the end of a long conversation. “But demographics with hard work and smart decisions are destiny.”

    In a post-election memo, Zermeno discussed the various victories and near-victories scored around the state. “In the deep red South,” she wrote, “this election demonstrated what we’ve believed about Texas for many years: Texas is the future. . . . Sí se puede.” Yes we can.
     

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Sí se puede pero no se debe.

  33. @JohnnyWalker123
    In the interest of full disclosure, the New York Times should start identifying (((David Brooks))) as an Israeli news columnist. If it did that, his articles would make more sense.

    Replies: @SFG, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Sean

    IMHO, replace “Israeli” with “Likud Party” and the observation would be even more accurate. Not even all Israeli’s are as bat-shit demented as Brooks.

  34. @Lot
    @JohnnyD


    Sadly, this is happening in my home state of Georgia. There were a couple counties that went Democrat for the first time in forty years
     
    The reverse is happening elsewhere. There are some excellent maps show all the Midwestern counties won by Obama that Trump won. He lost Minnesota by 1.4 points, which was less than his popular vote loss. It has gone from one of the most left-wing states to now just barely right-of-center.

    Obama beat Romney in Iowa by 9.5%, Trump beat Clinton by 9.6%. A 19 point swing, statewide, in just one cycle. Something really happened between Nov 2012 and Nov 2016.

    Replies: @snorlax, @Jus' Sayin'...

    “Something really happened between Nov 2012 and Nov 2016.”

    Yes! The grotesque and dangerous incompetence of our first affirmative action President and his affirmative action picks for key administration posts, particularly his Secretary of State and both his AGs, was on display in an even less restrained form than in the bozo’s first term.

  35. For the life of him, Brooks can’t figure out why Americans don’t to be like Houston.

    It is mysterious:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4276336/MS-13-gang-members-accused-Satanic-rape-murder.html

  36. @40 Acres and A Kardashian
    The city is also represented in Congress by the certifiable loon Shelia Jackson Lee in Congress. Why would people from any other part of the country want to emulate that?

    Houston "liberals" are nuts, of course. Just like most big city "liberals."

    But the conservatives are batshit insane, and Michael Berry is all the proof you need.

    Berry is Houston's most popular local conservative talking head. Immensely popular with the true-blue Reagan lovin', small government crowd who love diversity, Israel, and immigration as long as it's legal, and hate liberals, A-rabs, and racism, Berry is making a ton of money. So much that he was able to open his own night club, the Redneck Country Club, which is doing land office business, and is where Ted Cruz chose to hold his victory party the night of the Texas GOP primary.

    Berry loves to show that he's "un-PC" by posing in Confederate bandannas, smoking cigars, constantly making fun of Sheila Jackson-Lee and Maxine Waters for their obvious stupidity. He even has the gay blackface welfare mama drag queen Shirley Q. Liquor on all the time to ridicule stupid blacks.

    At the same time, Berry is married to a very dark woman from India. Making matters worse, they have adopted two Ethiopes.

    That's the exact opposite of everything conservatives used to stand for. Until quite recently, Michael Berry would have been seen as a freak by conservatives, and treated as an outcast and pariah. Until a few years ago, nearly all whites would have regarded any white man with a "family" like that as mentally ill and/or morally degenerate. And the more conservative a person was, the more disgusted they would have been at this. But, today, a guy like that is the leader of the cuckservatives in Houston.

    Now, you'd think that even if an Indian wife and two adopted black sons didn't make Houston conservatives go WTF?, when Michael Berry got caught in a hit and run leaving a gay bar five years ago, that might've woken a few of them up.

    But no, Berry paid the guy whose car he rammed a couple thousand bucks to drop the charges. Then he went on the air and said there was a very simple explanation for why he was in a gay bar - it was hot, he was thirsty, and they had cold beer inside. Never mind that the bar is considered the nastiest gay dive in Houston, Berry is on video watching the drag show that took place that night, or that the bar is an out of the way hole in the wall that no one ever stumbles into by accident.

    Never mind all that. The conservative hero with the Indian wife and two black kids said he was only at Houston's nastiest gay bar to get a cold beer, and that's good enough for the conservatives of Houston. Far from slowing Berry down, his hit and run leaving a gay bar only caused his fans to rally around him and defend him from the "lies of the lamestream media."

    It gets harder every day to feel sorry for "conservatives."

    Replies: @Jasper Been

    Very informative and entertaining comment!!!

  37. @Dr. X
    Can the Democrats retake Texas? Sure they can -- just like the Republicans took Wisconsin and Michigan, once considered impossible. Nothing is cast in stone.

    But the prospect of the Democrats taking Texas ought to keep you awake at night. They've already locked up California for the foreseeable future -- California didn't even have a Republican Senate candidate last fall. Add California's 55 electoral votes to Texas's 38, and if they get Florida (a 1% +/- swing state) with 29, that's 122 guaranteed electoral votes right off the top in the three biggest states and it's Katy bar the door once you add in New York, Illinois, etc.

    And they know it. Trump had better go balls-to-the-wall to prevent this from happening, or else his presidency will merely delay the inevitable for four years.

    Replies: @Busby, @snorlax, @Lot, @jon, @Bill

    It has already happened. Non-Hispanic whites are 34% of Texas births, as of 2014. Nothing short of ethnic cleansing is going to stop TX from moving “left.” I assume that, sometime in the next decade or two, the energy industry is going to start buying the Democratic party. Or, maybe they already have. I don’t pay attention to TX politics at all.

    The GOPe are right that winning a larger proportion of Hispanic votes is eventually mandatory for the GOP (or its successor). They are just comically wrong about how to do it. Muh opportunity society! Immigration is an act of love! Look at my brown, Spanish-speaking, retarded child!!

  38. DEMOGRAPHY IS DESTINY

    The donor-controlled Republican politicians are evil whores. That is why they disregard the political and cultural impact of nation-wrecking mass immigration.

    Watch this rancid whore Ted Cruz slough off my simple observation that if it wasn’t for the 1965 Immigration Act there would have been no Obama and subsequently no Obamacare.

    The relevant part starts at 51:30 into the video:

  39. Fainting? That does not inspire confidence.

    A friend of mine claims that names like Cockburn (and Shakespeare) were intentional jokes made when people were forced to adopt surnames.

    Anyone know if that’s true? I’d like to think it is

  40. White folks and Palestinians should sing this to Brooks

  41. @Anonymous
    @Anon


    It is dying. Absent European immigration, it would already be in natural decline. The average age of White Americans is something like 42 or 43 years. Japan is at 44 IIRC, ethnic Germans are at a similar age and they are also in a natural decline.
     
    It is not dying. It is being displaced. There is a difference. There are close to 200 million white Americans. If white America were its own nation, it would be in the top five. Even with an aging population, there are still a large number of younger people having kids. They might not have the 2.1 TFR, but they are still having kids which means whites are not dying out. White America, absent massive immigration, would be in no danger. In other words we have a problem that was totally preventable and which has been deliberately enacted.

    The only reason people are sweating it out, and there is very good reason to sweat it out, is that our elites are bringing in replacements faster than we are having kids.

    Japan has lower birth rates, but there is zero threat that they will lose their nation because they are not being displaced. If the USA and Western Europe were not being flooded right now, they would not be in the position of being displaced either.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anon

    I agree with what you say, and it is worth thinking about what is the root cause of all this demographic displacement. I mean “root cause” as in real actual root cause, not the Prog “root cause” that is just another way to blame whitey.

    Near as I can figure a subtle but seismic shift took place when the establishment of the welfare state reached the point that 1) it became viable to have have kids as a paid ward of the state (i.e., to become a government-paid breeder), and 2) one no longer needed their own progeny to care for them in old age because the government was guaranteeing them the proceeds of everyone else’s progeny as a pension.

    These twin attacks squeezed the traditional and eternal covenant between the generations from both sides, and inserted a malign and potent state tutelary power in the middle.

    The obligation to have children and to raise them well was gone because the government was promising to make some other sucker’s children fund your retirement. The incentive to have children was magnified for those of little means whose only ability was reproduction, while the incentive was diminished for those who lives were otherwise productive. In between, the state owns each generation more and more. The state trains your [barely the appropriate pronoun anymore] children what to say, how to think and directs what they will do. If they accomplish anything profitable, the state will garnish most of it to give to their more conformist minions. You can try to opt out, but the cost to do so rises relentlessly.

    The long term effect of this have been foreseeable, inexorable, and disastrous. The productive, creative and orderly are stagnant and dispossessed with open encouragement to die. The parasitical, inept and chaotic multiply and rampage with open celebration.

    Reverse or die.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Almost Missouri

    Complete bullshit. Your mind is polluted by libertarian talking points.

    East Asia also has a strong welfare net(compared to most of the world), certainly on par with the US even if below Northern Europe. Yet they don't have these same pathologies.

    Your mindless horseshit is the same type of sewer garbage which causes idiot GOPers to blame out of wedlock births for Detroit, ignoring that Iceland has 50-60% out of wedlock births yet is highly functional.

    Your brain needs to be flushed from the libertarian retardation.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  42. Here, Brooks, is a slice of your beloved Houston;

    “Naked man ‘breaks into his neighbor’s apartment at 4am, makes her strip and rapes her in front of her two children’”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4277774/Houston-man-rapes-neighbor-young-kids.html

    I’m with Brooks. Only a member of the dying White race could find in this uplifting, family-values story of loving one’s neighbor a reason to reject Houston and cling to whatever sustains their bitter lives.

  43. @JohnnyWalker123
    In the interest of full disclosure, the New York Times should start identifying (((David Brooks))) as an Israeli news columnist. If it did that, his articles would make more sense.

    Replies: @SFG, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Sean

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/03/opinion/trumpism-at-its-best-straight-up.html?_r=0
    There used to be Republican foreign policy hawks, people who believed that it was in America’s interest to serve as a global policeman, actively preserving a democratic world order. Trump explicitly repudiated this worldview,

    The current world order in the mIddle East spells doom for a Jewish Israel, which needs the situation fluid rather than in suspended animation. Brooks doesn’t dare call it like it is, not for Israel anyway.

  44. “Robby Mook” would make a great name for a character in a modern take on the mediaeval morality play. The addlepate who can’t quite pull off the heist.

    Ask anyone who was present at Hillary Clinton’s presumptive victory celebration on November 8 and they will tell you of the stunned silence, broken only by sobs, that settled across the vast glass enclosure of the Javits Center in Manhattan. Upstairs, in the suite where the candidate was closeted with her family and associates, the trauma was even more intense. As one attendee later reported to me, it featured the “full range of human emotions: screams, shock, fainting. Bill moved immediately to blame.” The former president, I was told, singled out campaign manager Robby Mook: “‘We should have fired that asshole months ago!’ It was awful.”

    It being Friday and one’s thoughts turning toward the last relaxed muddy days before landwork renews…

    …if this here pub of Highbrow Older Guys were one of those /pol/s or subreddits favored by the kindern, I’d make a joke about the above deeply pleasing paragraph launching a new fap genre (political shades of grey).

    But it’s not. So I won’t.

    Though I will observe that when I think of the “full range of human emotions,” it involves more than “screams, shock, fainting.”

    “The fault, dear Brutus….”

  45. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous

    I agree with what you say, and it is worth thinking about what is the root cause of all this demographic displacement. I mean "root cause" as in real actual root cause, not the Prog "root cause" that is just another way to blame whitey.

    Near as I can figure a subtle but seismic shift took place when the establishment of the welfare state reached the point that 1) it became viable to have have kids as a paid ward of the state (i.e., to become a government-paid breeder), and 2) one no longer needed their own progeny to care for them in old age because the government was guaranteeing them the proceeds of everyone else's progeny as a pension.

    These twin attacks squeezed the traditional and eternal covenant between the generations from both sides, and inserted a malign and potent state tutelary power in the middle.

    The obligation to have children and to raise them well was gone because the government was promising to make some other sucker's children fund your retirement. The incentive to have children was magnified for those of little means whose only ability was reproduction, while the incentive was diminished for those who lives were otherwise productive. In between, the state owns each generation more and more. The state trains your [barely the appropriate pronoun anymore] children what to say, how to think and directs what they will do. If they accomplish anything profitable, the state will garnish most of it to give to their more conformist minions. You can try to opt out, but the cost to do so rises relentlessly.

    The long term effect of this have been foreseeable, inexorable, and disastrous. The productive, creative and orderly are stagnant and dispossessed with open encouragement to die. The parasitical, inept and chaotic multiply and rampage with open celebration.

    Reverse or die.

    Replies: @Anon

    Complete bullshit. Your mind is polluted by libertarian talking points.

    East Asia also has a strong welfare net(compared to most of the world), certainly on par with the US even if below Northern Europe. Yet they don’t have these same pathologies.

    Your mindless horseshit is the same type of sewer garbage which causes idiot GOPers to blame out of wedlock births for Detroit, ignoring that Iceland has 50-60% out of wedlock births yet is highly functional.

    Your brain needs to be flushed from the libertarian retardation.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Anon

    I know economic determinism is in bad odour in these pages, but--news flash--money does matter. And I know you actually agree. Money isn't everything or the only thing, but it is an important thing, and perhaps no more so than when it affects who does and who does not get born.

    Japan is not financially encouraging one group to displace another group demographically. China has had other methods of determining who does and does not get born. Iceland's out of wedlock births are in households with both biological parents who are married in all but name and so are categorically different from the fatherless (and often eventually motherless) "households" of the rampantly fecund US underclass. As for the denizens of Detroit, this proves the point: where did they all come from and how do they maintain themselves? Hint: it's not self-sufficiency.

    Incidentally, if you've ever worked with horses, you'll know that horseshit is wholesome and beneficial and makes great fertilizer, so your metaphor was more accurate than you probably intended.

  46. @Tacitus
    "Dying White America". You know, get a move on, jump in your graves..and all that infrastructure, all those nice things that you've made, we'll have all that.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uBxMPqxJGqI

    Replies: @Romanian

    I saw the movie Logan today. It was a very good comic book movie, in my opinion, but it had Dying White America written all over it, from the imagery, to the demographics of the cast and to the script itself.

  47. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @Anon


    It is dying. Absent European immigration, it would already be in natural decline. The average age of White Americans is something like 42 or 43 years. Japan is at 44 IIRC, ethnic Germans are at a similar age and they are also in a natural decline.
     
    It is not dying. It is being displaced. There is a difference. There are close to 200 million white Americans. If white America were its own nation, it would be in the top five. Even with an aging population, there are still a large number of younger people having kids. They might not have the 2.1 TFR, but they are still having kids which means whites are not dying out. White America, absent massive immigration, would be in no danger. In other words we have a problem that was totally preventable and which has been deliberately enacted.

    The only reason people are sweating it out, and there is very good reason to sweat it out, is that our elites are bringing in replacements faster than we are having kids.

    Japan has lower birth rates, but there is zero threat that they will lose their nation because they are not being displaced. If the USA and Western Europe were not being flooded right now, they would not be in the position of being displaced either.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anon

    A society which doesn’t reproduce itself is, in effect, dying. Without European immigration, white America would be declining, like Japan. Not as fast, but still declining. And as I pointed out, this assumed perfect endogamy. If you count intermarriage, emigration etc, white America’s demographic decline would be even faster.

    Secondly, a lot of people in the non-Hispanic white column are Middle Easterners and others. They’re not white.

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Anon



    A society which doesn’t reproduce itself is, in effect, dying.

     

    Or else reaching equalibrium and to longer expanding exponentally forever.

    Japan's population is 2.49 times what it was in 1910. It is 79% greater than in 1945.
  48. @Anon
    @Almost Missouri

    Complete bullshit. Your mind is polluted by libertarian talking points.

    East Asia also has a strong welfare net(compared to most of the world), certainly on par with the US even if below Northern Europe. Yet they don't have these same pathologies.

    Your mindless horseshit is the same type of sewer garbage which causes idiot GOPers to blame out of wedlock births for Detroit, ignoring that Iceland has 50-60% out of wedlock births yet is highly functional.

    Your brain needs to be flushed from the libertarian retardation.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    I know economic determinism is in bad odour in these pages, but–news flash–money does matter. And I know you actually agree. Money isn’t everything or the only thing, but it is an important thing, and perhaps no more so than when it affects who does and who does not get born.

    Japan is not financially encouraging one group to displace another group demographically. China has had other methods of determining who does and does not get born. Iceland’s out of wedlock births are in households with both biological parents who are married in all but name and so are categorically different from the fatherless (and often eventually motherless) “households” of the rampantly fecund US underclass. As for the denizens of Detroit, this proves the point: where did they all come from and how do they maintain themselves? Hint: it’s not self-sufficiency.

    Incidentally, if you’ve ever worked with horses, you’ll know that horseshit is wholesome and beneficial and makes great fertilizer, so your metaphor was more accurate than you probably intended.

  49. @Anon
    @Anonymous

    A society which doesn't reproduce itself is, in effect, dying. Without European immigration, white America would be declining, like Japan. Not as fast, but still declining. And as I pointed out, this assumed perfect endogamy. If you count intermarriage, emigration etc, white America's demographic decline would be even faster.

    Secondly, a lot of people in the non-Hispanic white column are Middle Easterners and others. They're not white.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome

    A society which doesn’t reproduce itself is, in effect, dying.

    Or else reaching equalibrium and to longer expanding exponentally forever.

    Japan’s population is 2.49 times what it was in 1910. It is 79% greater than in 1945.

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