Oh, well, I thought I was done blogging about John McCain, but he is the gift that keeps giving:
From the Washington Examiner:
Joe Lieberman: John McCain has given America one ‘last great gift’ by bringing the country together
by Naomi Lim
| September 01, 2018 11:27 AMJoe Lieberman, one of Sen. John McCain’s closest friends, reflected Saturday:
“The greater cause to which he devoted his life was America, not so much the country defined by its borders, but the America of our founding values: freedom, human rights, opportunity, democracy and equal justice under law” …
McCain revealed earlier in 2018 in his last memoir, The Restless Wave, that he regretted not being able to choose Lieberman as his running mate in the 2008 presidential election.

I think the McCain funeral is the longest I have ever witnessed. It feels longer than a Weekend at Bernie’s. There’s so much praise being heaped on him from Democrats, that I’m wondering if they will run his corpse in 2020, they already ran one in 2016.
Why was McCain unable to choose Lieberman as running mate?
Bomb, bomb, bomb. Bomb bomb Iran.
And
He never met a jet that he didn’t like … to crash.
Lieberman, Schumer, George W. Bush: you know that when $ellout$ such as they praise someone, that that someone is, or was, no advocate for us ordinary Americans and likely is, or was, hostile to our interests and welfare.
On TV McCain is a saint, a hero and a just plain wonderful fellow. On the Internet he's a crook, a traitor and nasty vindictive bastard.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Steve in Greensboro
-- closing the border, stopping immigration, deporting illegals--jobs go to American workers
-- reigning in Wall Street, stopping bailouts from going to the crooks and reform to get them permanently off the taxpayer tit (no heads i win, tails you lose)
-- closing down Iraq and Afghanistan nation building foreign adventures and instead focusing on killing terrorists and most of all making sure they--and Islam in general--are kept out of the United States (and the West generally)
... McCain would have become President of the United States!
It's precisely because McCain is neither any sort of "maverick" nor a patriot--but a generic globalist tool--that his legacy is "loser".Replies: @Bill Jones, @Ghost of Bull Moose
… he regretted not being able to choose Lieberman as his running mate in the 2008 presidential election.
Some people can be trusted to take part in politics and some people can’t. The New York Times will let you know who’s qualified to engage in self-government and who’s not. Apparently the people of Chemnitz are not; they’re too blinded by ancestral passions. Let’s face it, the difference between “Chemnitz” and “Auschwitz” is only a few letters.
https://twitter.com/Holbornlolz/status/1035976453454622720
Back in East Germany days, Chemnitz was called Karl Marx Stadt. I'll bet the Grey Hag could have gotten on board with that.
The issue of fake Republicans need a lot more exposure than it gets. I was speaking with a member of a very wealthy family (100% of US readers of this site will have used a product made by her family) recently. She was going to register as a Republican in order to primary a McCain type person in our region.
I’ve yet to meet anyone who gets that McCain was a literal Democrat plant. Maybe Obama giving a glowing eulogy will help but I suspect not. One bit of priming that really does work is people are terrified of being seen as “conspiracy theorists”.
Invade the world, invite the world>>>
Plus my #3 is all green card holders, border jumpers and fake asylum seekers must buy lots of ultra soft toilet paper, or be deported, to be replaced by those who will.Replies: @Stan d Mute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OaF-j8x5VcReplies: @Kibernetika
Is it Axe Aftershave?Replies: @Stan d Mute, @Roderick Spode
I wouldn't call him a Democratic plant, exactly. He parted ways with Democrats in plenty of ways. But to Democrats there were two things to love about him: his willingness to be incredibly nasty to conservatives who disagreed with him, and also his betrayal of Republicans on one issue that matters more to Democrats than any other: immigration. Replacing the historic American people with newcomers is their obsession, and they were more than willing to overlook their disagreements with McCain on those other issues.Replies: @Lugash, @TTSSYF, @Crew Cut Man, @Jonathan Mason, @Clyde
Think about this: Why did the Republican politicians try to do anything to block Donald Trump? He's not a conservative in all aspects but he is (was?) on the existential immigration issue. They fought against him until we was President, knowing that now they may have to pretend to work with him. For 75% of the GOP politicians, if they could switch to D right now and still get elected, they'd have no problem doing that.Replies: @Olorin
You don't because he wasn't. The American Conservative Union reported that he voted with them 81% of the time over the course of his career (87% of the time prior to 1995, about 77% of the time thereafter). He was an episodic irritant but voted with the Republican caucus most of the time. About 20% of the current Senate Republican caucus would be at least as recalcitrant as far as party whips are concerned.Replies: @Noah172, @Ifrank
Yep. he shock-and-awed borders around the world.
And US immigration policy is Suck-and-own.
Lions of The Senate, Lions of The Swamp, what’s the diff! Eternally reaching across the aisle. Always invading and inviting the world. Open borders here we come, ye haw! In their prime there was nothing Ted Kennedy, McCain and Lieberman could not accomplish. Add Christopher Dodd (not a Lion btw) and you had waitress sandwiches, as in true alpha mavericks getting it on at La Brasserie in DC.
Alpha as in drilling for offshore oil said Senator Howard Heflin.
Mavericks all! As in unique, very special, Lionized Lionizated US Senate mavericks. Did I mention they were all true mavericks? Not like light in the loafers Linseed Graham, trying desperately to pick up McCain’s maverick mantle. Oh how he cried at
Aretha’sMcCain’s funeral.I've yet to meet anyone who gets that McCain was a literal Democrat plant. Maybe Obama giving a glowing eulogy will help but I suspect not. One bit of priming that really does work is people are terrified of being seen as "conspiracy theorists".Replies: @L Woods, @Clyde, @Joe Stalin, @MikeatMikedotMike, @Grumbler, @Jean Ralphio, @Svigor, @Wilkey, @Achmed E. Newman, @Buffalo Joe, @Art Deco
All the military dudes on my social media feed think he’s great. No hope there. Not that anyone here will be surprised.
His erratic actions in 2008 opened my eyes and I voted against Obama. I liked Sarah. As McCain went on I began to study his background and watched him until I finally was convinced that he and the Great Beached Whale should have been joined at the hip.
The Manufactured McCain: Lifting Up A Bloodstained, Lying, Venal Servant of Capitalist Empire
https://www.blackagendareport.com/manufactured-mccain-lifting-bloodstained-lying-venal-servant-capitalist-empire
Also from Black Adgenda Report a Black perspective on BlackkKlansman. The black detective started out infiltrating Black organizations.
Spike Lee’s Film Makes Cop That Spied on Blacks Into Hero
https://www.blackagendareport.com/spike-lees-film-makes-cop-spied-blacks-hero
I've yet to meet anyone who gets that McCain was a literal Democrat plant. Maybe Obama giving a glowing eulogy will help but I suspect not. One bit of priming that really does work is people are terrified of being seen as "conspiracy theorists".Replies: @L Woods, @Clyde, @Joe Stalin, @MikeatMikedotMike, @Grumbler, @Jean Ralphio, @Svigor, @Wilkey, @Achmed E. Newman, @Buffalo Joe, @Art Deco
No doubt in the toilet paper biz. Must be Charmin Ultra Soft and why we need all immigrants legal/illegal and the most fake phony asylum seekers we can get.
Invade the world, invite the world>>>
Plus my #3 is all green card holders, border jumpers and fake asylum seekers must buy lots of ultra soft toilet paper, or be deported, to be replaced by those who will.
I've yet to meet anyone who gets that McCain was a literal Democrat plant. Maybe Obama giving a glowing eulogy will help but I suspect not. One bit of priming that really does work is people are terrified of being seen as "conspiracy theorists".Replies: @L Woods, @Clyde, @Joe Stalin, @MikeatMikedotMike, @Grumbler, @Jean Ralphio, @Svigor, @Wilkey, @Achmed E. Newman, @Buffalo Joe, @Art Deco
I like the part where Herr Lieberman mentioned how McCain was supporting the so-called “Gun Show Loophole” i.e. U.S. government gun registration for all gun transactions. Remember, the US Congress passed legislation preventing funds from being utilized to computerize Form 4473 gun purchase forms. And then one day on television ABC had on a program where BATF had done just that under the Clinton regime: they had implemented a program to utilize Form 4473 data in a defacto “gun registration” program. (Gun shops that cease operation are required to turn the 4473s to ATF.)
BTW, didn't McCain oppose the MLK Day thing in AZ, and get flak over that? He did. This famous song references the then-governor, not McHero: https://youtu.be/zrFOb_f7ubw
“McCain revealed earlier in 2018 in his last memoir, The Restless Wave, that he regretted not being able to choose Lieberman as his running mate in the 2008 presidential election. ”
You almost get the impression that if given the chance, McCain would have given Lenin, Stalin and Mao a run for their money on who could murder the most people as a dictator.
Short man syndrome. Also, daddy issues.
McCain was only great at being evil.
At the funeral his daughter spoke of his missionary spirit to bring freedom to people all around the world. His ghostwriter Salter talked about it in an NPR interview earlier this week where the phony interviewer was choking back tears
So it’s right there- the neocons/neolibs are now openly admitting to their heritage of psychotic Puritanical missionary zeal for their religion of democracy and equal values.
I know other groups like Eastern Ashkenazis have certainly latched on & added to this “revolutionary spirit” but there you have it: all our bizarre troubles ultimately stem from the legacy of those damned Puritans.
But for the record, the Puritans lived next door to the crazy Jews in the Netherlands, and no one has ever presented any theoretical or empirical reason to think that any "revolutionary" aspect of Puritanism did not come from their Jewish neighbors.Replies: @S. Anonyia, @Sarah Toga, @Le Autiste Corv, @Samuel Skinner
Was there any polling done in late 2008 as to how bad a McCain-Lieberman ticket would have lost to Obama? They may not have hit 40% nationally.
Yes, a McCain-Lieberman ticket would have gone nowhere.Replies: @jesse helms think-alike, @Stan d Mute, @Bragadocious
One truly shameless thing (among many) at The Funeral was the way the eulogists kept invoking the “eternal truths” and “immutable principles” underlying American identity; Obama’s eulogy in particular sounded like his writers had mined old Bill Buckley columns for their lofty visions of the permanent things.
Such an idea is, of course, *precisely* what the ascendant culture—the one inaugurated into power via Obama—disputes. They reject not only the assertion that there is a founding principle of the American regime, but even that there is anything immutable about human biology.
It’s become a cliche already that this funeral “brought us all together as Americans.” Unanswered in all of the swooning is what it is that constitutes being an American, why it’s something distinctive, why it’s worth preserving and passing on. The same people who were mourning McCain’s death today as the passing of the last good white person will shortly return to their contemptuous destruction of everything American.
Did our recently arrived Muslim and Latino compatriots find it as moving as the liberal establishment did?Replies: @ChrisZ, @Reg Cæsar
Trump, doing the opposite it the ultimate in 'bad whites" because he's not part of the Death Cult that McCain so happily embraced and what we call the Left/multikult/Po-Mo/Globalist movement.Replies: @Sarah Toga
Shamelessly invoking “eternal truths” and “immutable principles” underlying American identity, which is precisely what the ascendant culture disputes.
The Big Lie.
I've yet to meet anyone who gets that McCain was a literal Democrat plant. Maybe Obama giving a glowing eulogy will help but I suspect not. One bit of priming that really does work is people are terrified of being seen as "conspiracy theorists".Replies: @L Woods, @Clyde, @Joe Stalin, @MikeatMikedotMike, @Grumbler, @Jean Ralphio, @Svigor, @Wilkey, @Achmed E. Newman, @Buffalo Joe, @Art Deco
“(100% of US readers of this site will have used a product made by her family)”
Is it Axe Aftershave?
Why are you people even concerned so much about the jewish media’s portrayal of the traitor John McCain?
Of course they are going to give him Kudos, he was a warmonger and a good servant of the jews.
Better for all of us to turn off the television, since we all know which tribe controls it. And then go urinate on McCain grave in due time
“Joe Lieberman, one of Sen. John McCain’s closest friends”
Who is (was) the luckier?
Does that translate into hate for PDJT? Or does it mean they bought into the idea that McCain was a hero? I went along with that view for many years particularly when the search was on for a candidate to go against Clinton lite: Al Gore.
His erratic actions in 2008 opened my eyes and I voted against Obama. I liked Sarah. As McCain went on I began to study his background and watched him until I finally was convinced that he and the Great Beached Whale should have been joined at the hip.
I don’t think Sarah Palin was a great selection for VP, but she was never anything but loyal and complimentary to John McCain.
In return for her loyalty, he spent the last 10 years of his life blaming her for his defeat, directly and through flunkies like Steve Schmidt. Even at the end, he pointedly left her off the guest list to his funeral.
For all her faults, Ms. Palin is too nice to say this, so I will: McCain was a petty, vindictive SOB.
I'm unfit to judge the issue of McCain's POW time--his behavior, the offer of early release, etc. (And I don't want to wade into that swamp--whatever he did or didn't do, he didn't come home early.)
But i will say that there's absolutely nothing in the public record of the rest of his personal or professional life that shows McCain to be a man of high character. His record is one of being just a rude, pompous asshole. A lowlife who will sell-out anything and trash anyone for the greater glory of John McCain's fragile ego--most of all selling out the interests of his own voters, the American people.
Has that conspiratainment theory gotten any attention?Replies: @Mr. Rational
I've yet to meet anyone who gets that McCain was a literal Democrat plant. Maybe Obama giving a glowing eulogy will help but I suspect not. One bit of priming that really does work is people are terrified of being seen as "conspiracy theorists".Replies: @L Woods, @Clyde, @Joe Stalin, @MikeatMikedotMike, @Grumbler, @Jean Ralphio, @Svigor, @Wilkey, @Achmed E. Newman, @Buffalo Joe, @Art Deco
Whenever I am accused of being a “conspiracy theorist” I reply “No, I am a Truthist.; that is to say that I am one who seeks only the Truth, the whole Truth, and nothing but the Truth. Now are you really arguing that the Warren Report, the Gulf of Tonkin , the 9/11 Commission, the Fed’s story on Waco, Iraqi WMDs, strange mass shootings, etc are all the Truth, the whole Truth, and nothing but the Truth and therefore completely beyond any dispute?
Discussion (even on TV) should ONLY be held in front of whiteboards with people holding markers.
Heartiste had the best rejoinder to the “propositional nation” malarkey ever:
I've yet to meet anyone who gets that McCain was a literal Democrat plant. Maybe Obama giving a glowing eulogy will help but I suspect not. One bit of priming that really does work is people are terrified of being seen as "conspiracy theorists".Replies: @L Woods, @Clyde, @Joe Stalin, @MikeatMikedotMike, @Grumbler, @Jean Ralphio, @Svigor, @Wilkey, @Achmed E. Newman, @Buffalo Joe, @Art Deco
I’ve talked to a few Trump supporters who were supportive of McCain and thought Trump shouldn’t have criticized him. They believe the war hero hype too (guess they’ve never heard of Audie Murphy). I’m in a southern state that worships the military so I thought maybe it was that but I think you’re right that a lot of people can’t spot a fake conservative, maybe because of Steve’s reasoning that there’s no word or phrase for it. I don’t see how someone can have watched or read the news the last 18 years and not see McCain as the opposite of everything Trump and his movement stand for.
My uncle was lucky. His co-pilot died when their plane was downed, but my uncle survived and was found by the enemy soldiers with a badly mangled leg. They amputated his leg below the knee and he spent time in a POW camp until the war ended. (He said he was treated very humanely in the camp.)
My father became a military pilot because his older brother was his hero. My point is that men of my father's generation are a different breed. They considered serving their country to be a great honor. I grew up on military bases surrounded by Vietnam War vets. Most were cut from the same cloth as my father. Very honorable men willing to risk death for their country.
Men of that generation grew up in a different world. Most can't even begin to understand what their nation has become. They instinctively support the military today because it was an honorable institution when they served. Sure there were weasels like John McCain, but they were the exception.
Although I think the leaders of our current military are largely tools of a corrupt governing elite, I keep my opinions to myself around my father out of respect to his service.
It saddens me that my father's world no longer exists.Replies: @MBlanc46
Nothing, but just a weird association in my head.
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“The greater cause to which he devoted his life was America, not so much the country defined by its borders”
In other words, he was an American imperialist. He thought “America” should include Eurasian Georgia and Ukraine, that Mexicans swarming across an undefended border into his adopted home state was just dandy, and that killing people in the jungles of southeast Asia who never did, and never could, attack America was his life’s defining achievement.
I’d just love to hear what Washington and Jefferson would have said about that…
Daniel H:
By George You’ve Got It.
Such an idea is, of course, *precisely* what the ascendant culture—the one inaugurated into power via Obama—disputes. They reject not only the assertion that there is a founding principle of the American regime, but even that there is anything immutable about human biology.
It’s become a cliche already that this funeral “brought us all together as Americans.” Unanswered in all of the swooning is what it is that constitutes being an American, why it’s something distinctive, why it’s worth preserving and passing on. The same people who were mourning McCain’s death today as the passing of the last good white person will shortly return to their contemptuous destruction of everything American.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Rod1963, @ben tillman, @Bugg, @Forbes, @Olorin
this funeral “brought us all together as Americans.”
Did our recently arrived Muslim and Latino compatriots find it as moving as the liberal establishment did?
Likewise willfully overlooked by the commentariat: despite all the high-sounding unanimity about inclusiveness, anti-bigotry, and bringing people together, the complexion of the mourners in the National Cathedral was extremely uniform.
Can we expect to see #FuneralSoWhite?
What McCain’s interminable memorial service has done is unite the elites who want to overturn the last election and deny American citizens their right to self-government.
It is an anti-Trump display, a propaganda extravaganza.
Dems hope for the same outcome and act as if its already in the bag. They have generally good polling -- I assume they are right. Already they are threatening ICE agents and in California Jerry Brown is highly likely to pardon all Death Row inmates and perhaps even release them. He may even empty out the prisons of all Latino and Black (but not White) inmates. In a mass pardon.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Buzz Mohawk, @TTSSYF, @Glaivester, @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Jack Hanson
Idiots. Their country is vanishing before their eyes and they are rapidly becoming relegated to second-class citizens and America is becoming a third-world flophouse but hey, supporting and fighting for globalist interest is the patriotic thing to do. When they’re senior citizens I’m sure they’ll be shown the same respect in the country-formerly-known-as-America.
I bet a bunch of them are the double and triple-chinned NCOs and junior officers I see running around my company from time to time.
Bad-ass soldiers?
Right, right....
Moral Courage
Military service in [current year]
Pick two.Replies: @L Woods, @Stan d Mute
If history is any guideline, it will be very effective. Paul Wellstone’s funeral was treated in the same manner. If memory serves it fueled a blue wave then.
Dems hope for the same outcome and act as if its already in the bag. They have generally good polling — I assume they are right. Already they are threatening ICE agents and in California Jerry Brown is highly likely to pardon all Death Row inmates and perhaps even release them. He may even empty out the prisons of all Latino and Black (but not White) inmates. In a mass pardon.
Any wave was due to resentment for their having blowing the 2000 election.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RDK3xvTZqYReplies: @Whiskey
NOT a blue wave, just the opposite.
M. Jose
The Wellstone funeral was a touchstone of political-funereral disaster. Not only was there no "blue wave", with their over-the-top unpleasant politicing the Democrats managed to alienate even mild Minnesotans and lose Wellstone's seat.
"Unhinged lunacy" is not really a winning message. Which is why we really need Trump to get some friggin' message discipline and run on
-- better economy
-- closing the border and shutting down immigration--improving job prospects, housing prices and quality of life for Americans
-- the Democrats--now open ("abolish ICE!)--open borders lunacy
This election should be a layup.Replies: @Whiskey
"Wellstoned" is a term for when a political spectacle backfires on the party putting it on.
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https://imgix.bustle.com/rehost/2016/9/13/6efd131c-c4f7-40e4-9a32-7496a01e55e0.jpg?w=970&h=582&fit=crop&crop=faces&auto=format&q=70Replies: @Jus' Sayin'..., @Stan d Mute, @newrouter, @Anonymous, @Crew Cut Man
I’ve used up my LOL points here but I second snorlax!
You’re preaching to the choir. “Our” military is marinated top to bottom in moral cowardice.
Such an idea is, of course, *precisely* what the ascendant culture—the one inaugurated into power via Obama—disputes. They reject not only the assertion that there is a founding principle of the American regime, but even that there is anything immutable about human biology.
It’s become a cliche already that this funeral “brought us all together as Americans.” Unanswered in all of the swooning is what it is that constitutes being an American, why it’s something distinctive, why it’s worth preserving and passing on. The same people who were mourning McCain’s death today as the passing of the last good white person will shortly return to their contemptuous destruction of everything American.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Rod1963, @ben tillman, @Bugg, @Forbes, @Olorin
McCain was the last “good white person” because he worked so hard to get us into wars to kill off and maim young white men. To help flood the country with 3rd world savages and hollow out our nation industries to cripple us.
Trump, doing the opposite it the ultimate in ‘bad whites” because he’s not part of the Death Cult that McCain so happily embraced and what we call the Left/multikult/Po-Mo/Globalist movement.
Did our recently arrived Muslim and Latino compatriots find it as moving as the liberal establishment did?Replies: @ChrisZ, @Reg Cæsar
Exactly, Harry: another unasked question.
Likewise willfully overlooked by the commentariat: despite all the high-sounding unanimity about inclusiveness, anti-bigotry, and bringing people together, the complexion of the mourners in the National Cathedral was extremely uniform.
Can we expect to see #FuneralSoWhite?
Of all our commenters, I wouldn’t rank Truth high on the dependability scale. Though he is funny at times. Sometimes on purpose.
Oh, how I wish it were literally interminable. But all those people will be back at work on Monday.
In return for her loyalty, he spent the last 10 years of his life blaming her for his defeat, directly and through flunkies like Steve Schmidt. Even at the end, he pointedly left her off the guest list to his funeral.
For all her faults, Ms. Palin is too nice to say this, so I will: McCain was a petty, vindictive SOB.Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @TTSSYF, @AndrewR, @AnotherDad, @Achmed E. Newman, @Jimi Shmendrix
Media had us all convinced that Sarah Palin was dumber than she actually is. It didn’t help that she speaks in that goofy, Upper Midwest, Fargo accent that an East Coast sharpie will identify as the sound of a chump.
As the governor of a huge energy state that is the last frontier of the United States, she was, in some ways, more qualified than John McCain American War Hero™. Governors are chief executives. Senators are windbags.
Sarah Palin would have been a better president than John McCain (but that’s not saying much). Besides, as Tracy Morgan said, “she’s good masturbation material.”
Invade the world, invite the world>>>
Plus my #3 is all green card holders, border jumpers and fake asylum seekers must buy lots of ultra soft toilet paper, or be deported, to be replaced by those who will.Replies: @Stan d Mute
But don’t most of them come from places where they’ve never seen either toilets or paper?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OaF-j8x5VcReplies: @Kibernetika
Those actors never got the accents right 😉
BTW, didn’t McCain oppose the MLK Day thing in AZ, and get flak over that? He did. This famous song references the then-governor, not McHero:
Is it Axe Aftershave?Replies: @Stan d Mute, @Roderick Spode
Depends..
Sounds like a bunch of blue-pilled, normie cucks that are still trapped in the Matrix.
I bet a bunch of them are the double and triple-chinned NCOs and junior officers I see running around my company from time to time.
Bad-ass soldiers?
Right, right….
https://m.media-
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Is it just me or has anybody else noticed commenters in the last few threads have been bringing their A-games to iSteve? Pretty soon Steve can sell his blog for Onion money!
O/T
Ill omen on the statue purge
The far-left receives a sort of psycho-sexual glee out of destroying the statues.
Despite the public being polled as being against removal, any criminal charges against vigilantes are thrown out by the judge, jury nullification is also possible.
Given that the Democrats no longer need the vote of the Southern working class whites, there is no defense of the Confederates as proto-socialist “Southern Agrarians”, thus any apologism for the Confederates is seen by the cultural elite as indistinguishable from Nazi Germany. (The author is a leftist professor, but then again you can count the number of right-wing professors with two hands)
The only thing that can feasibly stop the tide of removal is “exemplary sentencing”, extralegal violence has always backfired.
Recall the fearstorm whipped up by the ADL early last year about a Jewish cemetery being vandalized that was later found to be subsidence, we don’t gain anything by knocking down one of theirs.
https://twitter.com/TheHempiricist/status/1035649469730058241
Fundamentally we cannot live in the same society as these people.
Dems hope for the same outcome and act as if its already in the bag. They have generally good polling -- I assume they are right. Already they are threatening ICE agents and in California Jerry Brown is highly likely to pardon all Death Row inmates and perhaps even release them. He may even empty out the prisons of all Latino and Black (but not White) inmates. In a mass pardon.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Buzz Mohawk, @TTSSYF, @Glaivester, @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Jack Hanson
Hardly. Wellstone had the best replacement candidate imaginable– a locally popular Vice President with loads of experience and connections in the Senate– who lost to a party-switching mayor with a Brooklyn accent. Who’d just lost to a wrestler four years earlier.
Any wave was due to resentment for their having blowing the 2000 election.
There are good reasons Mrs. Palin inspired the adult industry to create an entire run of films inspired by her.
She could never admit it publicly, but I bet she is secretly flattered that such a group of jaded professionals found her so…arousing….
Personally, I thought Moscow, ID was a really cool little college town. I found U of I’s campus quite picturesque. The nearby Best Western gets many of their restaurant’s ingredients fresh from the campus farm. Freshest breakfast pork I’ve ever had on my plate!
I would not have minded doing my undergrad years at U of I, so I figure anyone who went there must be kinda cool.
The Geo. Bushes, père et fils, were Horsemen nos. 1 & 3 of the Globalist Apocalypse.
Dems hope for the same outcome and act as if its already in the bag. They have generally good polling -- I assume they are right. Already they are threatening ICE agents and in California Jerry Brown is highly likely to pardon all Death Row inmates and perhaps even release them. He may even empty out the prisons of all Latino and Black (but not White) inmates. In a mass pardon.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Buzz Mohawk, @TTSSYF, @Glaivester, @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Jack Hanson
Well then that’s the end of the white race in California, because all those freed felons will go right out and inseminate all the California girls.
America isn’t about you, goy; it’s about our ideas.
Bush is a sellout. Lieberman and Schumer aren’t sellouts; they’re loyal to their people.
OT: https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/crime/seven-injured-after-wild-inner-melbourne-brawl-involving-up-to-200-people/news-story/215cc72e591d60bb80ddf722fd7a099f
29 paragraphs in they get to the race/ethnicity of these 200 people. According the ex-PM Turnbull, Australia is the most successful multicultural country in the world.
For sure Songbird was a Democratic plant.
He was also a piece of shit.
So it's right there- the neocons/neolibs are now openly admitting to their heritage of psychotic Puritanical missionary zeal for their religion of democracy and equal values.
I know other groups like Eastern Ashkenazis have certainly latched on & added to this "revolutionary spirit" but there you have it: all our bizarre troubles ultimately stem from the legacy of those damned Puritans.Replies: @ben tillman, @Sarah Toga, @Redneck farmer
That’s crazy. No way in hell. Do you know what “ultimately” means? How did Puritans even get into the conversation?
But for the record, the Puritans lived next door to the crazy Jews in the Netherlands, and no one has ever presented any theoretical or empirical reason to think that any “revolutionary” aspect of Puritanism did not come from their Jewish neighbors.
Did not realize Puritans lived next to Jews in the Netherlands. I think those would be Sephardic though and they aren’t really known for being particularly ideological. Though I could be wrong and am curious.Replies: @ben tillman, @ben tillman
OT, I've seen reference in these comment threads of studies that find the Puritan settlers were high IQ. It seems the Puritan movement attracted people with high verbal ability. Interesting. That could turn out to be good or bad. Obama's mother was a descendant of Puritans who went over to the Unitarian/Universalist sect.Replies: @ben tillman
"improving", whether it be Asian or Polynesian heathens or Southern barbarians. Perhaps the 17-century colonists weren't Messianic, but their 18th and 19th-century descendants certainly were. PInteresting little fact about the Battle of the Crater during the Civil War. White soldiers were sent in to the killing zone first because Meade didn't want to be accused of using blacks as cannon fodder. I make this point because at a time when the Ashkenazi were still mostly peddlers, WASPs were already acting like characters in a Tom Wolfe novel.People who criticize the Ashkenazi and blame them entirely for this PC b.s. and ignoring the role of the eternal Anglo and of low church Protestants, particularly Evangelicals, are either arguing from ignorance or in bad faith.Replies: @ben tillman
I've yet to meet anyone who gets that McCain was a literal Democrat plant. Maybe Obama giving a glowing eulogy will help but I suspect not. One bit of priming that really does work is people are terrified of being seen as "conspiracy theorists".Replies: @L Woods, @Clyde, @Joe Stalin, @MikeatMikedotMike, @Grumbler, @Jean Ralphio, @Svigor, @Wilkey, @Achmed E. Newman, @Buffalo Joe, @Art Deco
“Conspiracy theorist” negs are pretty easy to counter. The entire left subscribes to “conspiracy theories” about “the patriarchy,” “white privilege,” “Amerikkka,” “systemic white supremacy,” vast conspiracies to make blacks fail, shadowy networks of antisemites, etc., so just mention them whenever people go on about “conspiracy theories.”
Such an idea is, of course, *precisely* what the ascendant culture—the one inaugurated into power via Obama—disputes. They reject not only the assertion that there is a founding principle of the American regime, but even that there is anything immutable about human biology.
It’s become a cliche already that this funeral “brought us all together as Americans.” Unanswered in all of the swooning is what it is that constitutes being an American, why it’s something distinctive, why it’s worth preserving and passing on. The same people who were mourning McCain’s death today as the passing of the last good white person will shortly return to their contemptuous destruction of everything American.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Rod1963, @ben tillman, @Bugg, @Forbes, @Olorin
90% of Americans have no idea what happened at that funeral.
Or care.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
Or maybe it was the Matrix revealing itself.Replies: @Vojkan
I wish everyone was wide awake to the NWO. But think how far we’ve come since 2008.
The phony rightwing has been flushed. The lunatic leftwing has been radicalized– a one way ticket to the political wilderness.
The country is in trouble… but the globalists are reeling and that is a big step toward recovery.
Trump has a great shot at a second term.
McConnell just broke the latest blockade of Trump judges…
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The demographics are still killing the country. Team Trump needs to go back to Bannonist slash & burn attacks on the swamp and immigration.
Alex Jones keeps talking about a major false flag 9/11 style event but deep state can’t do it without the public forcing Trump to seal the borders.
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I wonder if McCain’s body is riddled with bullet holes? Could explain the tirade.
The funniest thing is that Lieberman is right: McCain defended America’s borderless values: globalism, corruption, lies, war mongering to benefit MIC, etc. If McCain is an American hero, it’s a shame to be an American.
RINO has been a household word for many years.
I've yet to meet anyone who gets that McCain was a literal Democrat plant. Maybe Obama giving a glowing eulogy will help but I suspect not. One bit of priming that really does work is people are terrified of being seen as "conspiracy theorists".Replies: @L Woods, @Clyde, @Joe Stalin, @MikeatMikedotMike, @Grumbler, @Jean Ralphio, @Svigor, @Wilkey, @Achmed E. Newman, @Buffalo Joe, @Art Deco
I’ve yet to meet anyone who gets that McCain was a literal Democrat plant.
I wouldn’t call him a Democratic plant, exactly. He parted ways with Democrats in plenty of ways. But to Democrats there were two things to love about him: his willingness to be incredibly nasty to conservatives who disagreed with him, and also his betrayal of Republicans on one issue that matters more to Democrats than any other: immigration. Replacing the historic American people with newcomers is their obsession, and they were more than willing to overlook their disagreements with McCain on those other issues.
Mass importation of foreign consumers happens when resident populations are not producing enough babies. American has been done in by the birth control pill, the condom, and Medicaid. Childbirth is so unaffordable in the US today that very close to 50% of babies arrive on Medicaid.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @pyrrhus, @BenKenobi, @AnotherDad, @backup, @Wilkey, @ben tillman
John McCain (inc.) - 284,374 (56.2%)
J.D. Hayworth – 162,502 (32.1%)
Jim Deakin – 59,447 (11.7%) Talk about a nasty, stone cold liar who feels he is owed and owed and owed due to his years in North Vietnam POW camps. McLame came off as hard core on illegal immigration in this vicious 2010 campaign against J.D. Hayworth, who was a solid conservative. As I remember, McCain had a huge campaign war chest that he used. But more importantly, the lazy Arizona voters liked hearing McLames lies about being serious about border enforcement. I am pretty sure Dems could vote in that primary, I know party registration means nothing there as far as voting in Presidential primaries.Replies: @Jack Hanson, @David In TN
I wonder if McCain didn’t mean Senator Richard Blumenthal also of Connecticut who manufactured a phony military resume too.
Perspicacity
Moral Courage
Military service in [current year]
Pick two.
“The greater cause to which he devoted his life was America, not so much the country defined by its borders, but the America of our founding values: freedom, human rights, opportunity, democracy and equal justice under law” …
Can someone stick a mike in front of Joe Lieberman and ask him what he thinks of Israel’s recent declaration that it is an emphatically Jewish state?
Also please ask him what he thinks of all those Union vets in Congress who voted for the Chinese Exclusion Act back in 1882.
In 2008 a reporter, Paul Harris, overheard and reported our beloved Johnnie McCain reacting badly to his wife Cindy teasing him about his creeping baldness: “At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt”.
McCain was dead in the water when he picked Palin. She caused him to shoot up in the polls. In some September surveys, the McCain-Palin ticket was ahead of Obama.
Yes, a McCain-Lieberman ticket would have gone nowhere.
This led "Them" to crash the stock market and almost destroy capitalism in order to ensure a Obama victory.
It's a good thing that Trump was trailing in all polls in the run up to the 2016 elections. There's no telling what "They' would have done and what depths to which "They" would have sunk if somehow a poll showed Trump in the lead.Replies: @Mr. Rational
But for the record, the Puritans lived next door to the crazy Jews in the Netherlands, and no one has ever presented any theoretical or empirical reason to think that any "revolutionary" aspect of Puritanism did not come from their Jewish neighbors.Replies: @S. Anonyia, @Sarah Toga, @Le Autiste Corv, @Samuel Skinner
The Puritans get into the picture because their utopian shining city on a hill rhetoric led directly to our historical missionary style aggression that McCain was so fond of- first against other Americans leading up to the Civil War and during the various Indian wars, secondly and more importantly in our interventionist foreign policy starting in the late 1800s. We always frame violence and meddling as justified by some greater good or divine purpose. The whole nation of ideals crap came from the Puritans first. Other colonists were just here for cheap land and a chance at making money. Normal stuff, just making a home.
Did not realize Puritans lived next to Jews in the Netherlands. I think those would be Sephardic though and they aren’t really known for being particularly ideological. Though I could be wrong and am curious.
So it's right there- the neocons/neolibs are now openly admitting to their heritage of psychotic Puritanical missionary zeal for their religion of democracy and equal values.
I know other groups like Eastern Ashkenazis have certainly latched on & added to this "revolutionary spirit" but there you have it: all our bizarre troubles ultimately stem from the legacy of those damned Puritans.Replies: @ben tillman, @Sarah Toga, @Redneck farmer
Let me suggest to you to read something about, or by, Puritans. Reading John Owens’ classic work, “The Death of Death in the Death of Christ” would be a good start.
“90% of Americans have no idea what happened at that funeral.”
Or care.
Most importantly, those values are not the standard litany of freedom, democracy, and equality mouthed over and over again by media and government figures. There is a reason why they say such things, but it is more the result of an unacknowledged mental ellipsis than a conscious commitment to those ideas in their original signification. For as long as America is a going concern, its fundamental activity will be described in precisely those terms as a sort of tribute to the old pieties, even as the state itself transforms its character from one year to the next. Consequently, the words have altered in meaning numberless times, and if one cares to look back at what was originally captured under the aegis of those highminded concepts, he will see that they ceased to be living and effective spiritual determinants some generations ago. But there is a word borrowed from the corporate lexicon that really does express the borderless values espoused by McCain and his contemporaries, and which therefore serves as the true underlying meaning of freedom and democracy today. It is a word not alien to Francis Fukuyama's historiography nor to the actual governing practices of Obama or Merkel. The secret sinew tying these varied strings together is the word "Buy-in."
"Buy-in" as a political philosophy means the process of persuading individuals that their interests are best served by aligning themselves with the supranational (i.e. "borderless") and rational (i.e. "timeless") socioeconomic regime. It is, in the minds of its adherents, quite judicious and even scientific in its use of carrots and sticks---precisely targeted cruise missiles for the worst malefactors, and for everyone else plenty of healthcare, education, cradle-to-grave welfare, free trade, and "economic opportunity." To the chagrin of its detractors, Buy-in does not represent a deviation from the spirit of Western world history but is a new chord precisely in the key of that history and is a natural development from its earliest and most unalterable antecedents.
As a species of idea, it is thoroughly both post-Marxist and post-Imperialist. It is Marxist in the sense of recognizing only economic-material causes as operative in determining the cultural outlook of individuals and peoples, and also inasmuch as it posits a "class struggle" of sorts as the fundamental driver of historical progression. The old Marxist categories of bourgeoisie and proletariat have given way to a two-fold division between those who have achieved Buy-in (the "Imperium") and those who are awaiting Buy-in (the "provinces"), these categories being applied irrespective of national origin. Foreign elites are every bit as much a part of the Imperium as native billionaires, while the autochthonous underclasses are relegated to provincial status with a stroke. The Imperialist aspects of Buy-in are are evident in its casual unwillingness to eschew the use of occupying military forces in pursuit of its objectives. McCain's famous statement that the American military might remain in Iraq "for 100 years" is quite a natural expression of this attitude. The idea here was that American forces should sit like a lid on the Iraqi cauldron, picking off the militant opposition and distributing largess to a docile citizenry, while under the weight of this capstone the native Iraqi culture would slowly disintegrate until Buy-in was achieved.
The ruthless manner in which Buy-in sets itself against the existence of nations and borders, as well as any sort of racial or ethnic particularism, is due not to the sentiments of dreamy world-improvers, thrill-seeking xenophiles, or disillusioned native invalids---although these are the useful idiots who provide a great deal of energy to the movement and generally tend to swell its front ranks---but due to an essential and integral logical inconsistency between the one and the other outlook. "Race" is simply not a factor in what Buy-in considers to be enlightened economic self-interest. And since Buy-in recognizes no interests other than these, it cannot fit race into its matrix of causes and effects. It is not even a defined concept, not a computable term. Thus, when an officious modern thinker proudly proclaims that "race does not exist," he is expressing something that is fundamentally true for him modulo the world-system in which he enunciates all of his ideas. This is no mere partisan cant, no airy Utopianism churned up in the detritus of an enervated mind, but an implacable logical consequence of this form of socioeconomic reductionism. The same arguments apply mutatis mutandis to the related concepts of nations, borders, and even sexes; however, the stubborn perdurance of these gives the lie to the theory and function as inadmissible embarrassments for it. They are therefore shoved into the background as "bigotry."
In its gross effects, Buy-in strives constantly to make the world safe for oligarchy. Here "liberty" means only the free play of capital, with political correctness as the "ethics" of the market square. It is an attitude, an outlook, and a spirit that is quite characteristic of late imperial ages. However much we may see it tending towards dissolution and decay, we do a disservice to the spirit of historical accuracy not to recognize it as the governing morality of the times; and there is no other beside it. It is an effort doomed to failure, artificial and impossible but paradoxically deriving strength from its very unworldliness. In its missionary zeal to spread urban life to the farthest-flung corners of the globe, in its herculean effort to incorporate everyone and everything into the vast domain of its bureaucratic regulatory apparatus, it is fully representative of the great currents of being that run through these days. This is "Imperium," pure and entire. It is, for almost everyone within the scope of the Western cultural sphere and certainly for anyone of significance within that sphere, the self-evident basis of all law, politics, ethics, and culture. It is the dividing line between good and bad men, between wisdom and foolishness, between the saved and the damned. It is the fate of such periods that, despite the obvious inadequacy and absurdity of their political forms, they are the only substrates in which the vestiges of true creative piety still inhere.
And these are the "American" values the John McCain defended until---literally---his dying breath. "Universal," not by virtue of being everywhere and always true but because their devotees cannot imagine a contrary; "timeless," because the sovereign reason has dispensed with all particularities of time and place; "American," because as hegemon we bear a unique witness to the power of our undying creed. It is without irony that McCain is described as the great American hero, for he embodied the imperial style of our era. Without irony, yes, but not without blame; yet we must realize that any verdict pronounced upon him is likewise pronounced upon our entire existence as a people.
There are those who opine that the passing of McCain signifies the end of the Pax Americana, and that with him passed also the century of American greatness. They are correct, and I personally think the change has much to commend it. The Caesarism that follows in the wake of "Buy-in" will finally bring about the end of the hypocritical and monotonous program-politics of the imperial age by reacquainting us with the long-neglected realities. But those who believe this will bring about the Restoration of the West will be disappointed. What it brought, in many ways, is its conclusion.Replies: @ben tillman
“The greater cause to which he devoted his life was America, not so much the country defined by its borders, but the America of our founding values: freedom, human rights, opportunity, democracy and equal justice under law….”
McCain demonstrated his values regarding the border by vacillating between a cry for closed or open borders depending upon whether he was trying to get elected by the people, or whether he was between elections and trying to raise donor funding from elites. The deep roots of the principles mentioned (and several others not mentioned) in the character of McCain were indeed also on display in the man.
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Pick two.Replies: @L Woods, @Stan d Mute
Hey man. Some of us took the “Long March” stratagem seriously.
But for the record, the Puritans lived next door to the crazy Jews in the Netherlands, and no one has ever presented any theoretical or empirical reason to think that any "revolutionary" aspect of Puritanism did not come from their Jewish neighbors.Replies: @S. Anonyia, @Sarah Toga, @Le Autiste Corv, @Samuel Skinner
Are you thinking of the Pilgrims’ sojourn in Holland? Generally speaking, the Puritans wanted to change the C of E from within, they generally stayed in England until the persecutions drove so many to become homesteaders/settlers in the Massachusetts Bay Colony. By contrast the Pilgrims typically separated from the established church. I have to admit I never heard of Pilgrim relations with Dutch Jews.
OT, I’ve seen reference in these comment threads of studies that find the Puritan settlers were high IQ. It seems the Puritan movement attracted people with high verbal ability. Interesting. That could turn out to be good or bad. Obama’s mother was a descendant of Puritans who went over to the Unitarian/Universalist sect.
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And here I thought that transformer was only infamous for eating sh*t. I didn’t he/she/they also talked sh*t too.
John McCain abandoned his first wife and daughter, for no particular reason.
What more does anybody need to know?
I wouldn't call him a Democratic plant, exactly. He parted ways with Democrats in plenty of ways. But to Democrats there were two things to love about him: his willingness to be incredibly nasty to conservatives who disagreed with him, and also his betrayal of Republicans on one issue that matters more to Democrats than any other: immigration. Replacing the historic American people with newcomers is their obsession, and they were more than willing to overlook their disagreements with McCain on those other issues.Replies: @Lugash, @TTSSYF, @Crew Cut Man, @Jonathan Mason, @Clyde
The Invade portion of Steve’s Three I’s is just as important to Democrats as Invite. It’s really amazing how the antiwar left has disappeared. Did it ever really exist or was it just a tool for bashing Bush II?
This is a great point that I never remember coming up during the 2008 campaign. Palin’s executive experience as a state governor could have been used as a hedge against the questions about McCain’s health.
Hell, at that point Palin had more executive experience than Barry Soetero…they could have used that directly against the Democrat ticket if their publicists had two brain cells to rub together. Alas, they had no Lee Atwater or Karl Rove who would have instantly seen the value in Palin’s background and leveraged it more effectively.
O/T: One to watch for possible hate hoax
https://iowastartingline.com/2018/08/29/neo-nazi-robocall-hits-iowa-on-tibbetts-murder-kill-them-all/
He defended the Anglo-Zionist empire. Nothing more.
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The girls they’d inseminate would all be four feet nine inches of Mayan descent. I live here. Haven’t seen a blonde girl in years.
“ no those are California girls”
The only place I’ve seen blondes is the Malibu playground where pretty blonde moms bring their pretty blonde toddlers to play.Replies: @Neoconned, @Sarah Toga
There’s a difference between Republicans and real conservatives but it’s difficult to get people to understand that.
Yes, a McCain-Lieberman ticket would have gone nowhere.Replies: @jesse helms think-alike, @Stan d Mute, @Bragadocious
In 2008 McCain was trailing badly as per the script. He even refused to criticize Obama, calling him a good man who he’d be proud to have watch over his children when that dumb lady in the crowd called Obama an “Arab” Palin’s initial popularity and rousing speech at the convention caused McCain to briefly draw even or slightly ahead in opinions polls right after the Republican convention.
This led “Them” to crash the stock market and almost destroy capitalism in order to ensure a Obama victory.
It’s a good thing that Trump was trailing in all polls in the run up to the 2016 elections. There’s no telling what “They’ would have done and what depths to which “They” would have sunk if somehow a poll showed Trump in the lead.
Or a tool for ducking the draft.
These are interesting discussion themes and it is sad there there is no whiteboard when one needs it.
Discussion (even on TV) should ONLY be held in front of whiteboards with people holding markers.
According CNN’s Dana Bash “Angels were crying”.
Or maybe it was the Matrix revealing itself.
No, it was a tool for bashing Nixon and Reagan as well. But not for Roosevelt or Kennedy or Clinton or Obama, for some reason.
They only turned on Wilson and Johnson. Must’ve been their accents…
Yeah, Lieberman was McCain’s first choice for VP. His advisers dissuaded him from picking Ioe on the grounds that Lieberman had a 100% pro-abortion voting record. Paul Gottfried said it was too bad it didn’t happen, because the neoconned GOP would then prove it stood for nothing but war, war and more war. But of course it also stood for cheap labor.
I’m sorry, is Lieberman battling a brain tumor too?
OT: The feel of Weimar: Social Democrats slightly attacked by actual Nazis in Chemnitz.
Sören Bartol: “I am horrifed. My group from Marburg was ambushed by Nazis while walking to the bus. All the SPD flags were destroyed and some (people, not flags) got actually attacked.”
A commenter writes: “I thought you weren’t even there, maybe decide yourself?”
Sören Bartol: “Ever heard of a telephone?”
ImLiterallyJustEddy: “They were Nazis because they called us “shit anti-German pigs”
Can someone stick a mike in front of Joe Lieberman and ask him what he thinks of Israel's recent declaration that it is an emphatically Jewish state?
Also please ask him what he thinks of all those Union vets in Congress who voted for the Chinese Exclusion Act back in 1882.Replies: @maxblame, @Sir Harry Paget Flashman VC
Sticking a mike into Lieberman’s mouth would alas require a free press.
“The greater cause to which he devoted his life was America, not so much the country defined by its borders, but the America of our founding values: freedom, human rights, opportunity, democracy and equal justice under law” …
Well, those are pretty good values. At least he didn’t say ‘diversity.’
The only human right (i.e., the only universalizable right) is the right to be free from aggression. Nothing could be more at odds with human rights than "Invade the world; invite the world."Replies: @Anonymous, @Ghost of Bull Moose
There is a book in there somewhere re: the absolute disappearance of the anti-war left. Hint: I was at Cornell 1971-75. Those most strongly opposed to the attack on Vietnam were those very same students who told me they were prepared to leave their studies to enlist in the IDF at the time of the Yom Kippur War.
Let’s do Lieberman a favor. Let’s not play nationalism for any race or people. Let’s treat all peoples with equal sympathy. Let’s treat Jews and Palestinians exactly the same. Let’s treat Iran and Israel the same. No favors for one tribe over any another.
See how fast the weasel squirms.
Exactly and that is what helps makes him an insufferable asshole.
This is a excellent opportunity to discover who is a Deep State State member or sycophant….see who supports McCain.
My father is 85 years old and served 30 years in the military. He was born and raised in a small town in Central Texas during the depression. He was a pilot and served in Vietnam when I was a kid. One of his brothers was about 10 years older than he was and served in WWII as a bomber pilot. He was shot down in the Ploesti oil field raids. My uncle’s commander told him and his fellow pilots before they left that that a lot of them would be shot down and would not survive.
My uncle was lucky. His co-pilot died when their plane was downed, but my uncle survived and was found by the enemy soldiers with a badly mangled leg. They amputated his leg below the knee and he spent time in a POW camp until the war ended. (He said he was treated very humanely in the camp.)
My father became a military pilot because his older brother was his hero. My point is that men of my father’s generation are a different breed. They considered serving their country to be a great honor. I grew up on military bases surrounded by Vietnam War vets. Most were cut from the same cloth as my father. Very honorable men willing to risk death for their country.
Men of that generation grew up in a different world. Most can’t even begin to understand what their nation has become. They instinctively support the military today because it was an honorable institution when they served. Sure there were weasels like John McCain, but they were the exception.
Although I think the leaders of our current military are largely tools of a corrupt governing elite, I keep my opinions to myself around my father out of respect to his service.
It saddens me that my father’s world no longer exists.
So it's right there- the neocons/neolibs are now openly admitting to their heritage of psychotic Puritanical missionary zeal for their religion of democracy and equal values.
I know other groups like Eastern Ashkenazis have certainly latched on & added to this "revolutionary spirit" but there you have it: all our bizarre troubles ultimately stem from the legacy of those damned Puritans.Replies: @ben tillman, @Sarah Toga, @Redneck farmer
The Puritans were Christians. What are Christians? Just another Jewish cult.
What accounted for this inability? Dark forces within the GOP or is it just a turn of phrase?
Lieberman’s statements are rhetoric just as much as what the fact checkers call Trump’s untruths. Funeral orations and political speeches are the proper place for rhetoric.
Would’ve been nice if she could list one thing she read in the Couric interview. Just one thing. Time magazine would’ve sufficed.
McCain was devoted to McCain’s career, and whether he was for or against borders depended solely on what he thought would get him re-elected. I guess Lieberman (and pretty much the entire media) forgot about episodes like this:
I wouldn't call him a Democratic plant, exactly. He parted ways with Democrats in plenty of ways. But to Democrats there were two things to love about him: his willingness to be incredibly nasty to conservatives who disagreed with him, and also his betrayal of Republicans on one issue that matters more to Democrats than any other: immigration. Replacing the historic American people with newcomers is their obsession, and they were more than willing to overlook their disagreements with McCain on those other issues.Replies: @Lugash, @TTSSYF, @Crew Cut Man, @Jonathan Mason, @Clyde
Agreed. And regarding Trump’s slam at McCain about being captured — that was in direct response to McCain’s having referred to conservatives as “wacko birds” or something like that.
McCain had his good points. His speech at the Republican National Convention nominating GWB, in 2000, was one of the best I’ve ever seen. I think he grew worse as he got older and, at the end, seemed to take a contrary position just to be contrary (i.e., voting against repealing Obamacare).
They watch the same tv and movies as everyone else in this stupid country.
I don’t think McCain would have won with any running mate. I voted for him, because I saw through Obama from the very start, but I knew too many people at the time who were too enthralled with the idea of voting for the black guy. Try as hard as I could, there was simply no dissuading them from it. One relative has sheepishly admitted her mistake and told me she voted for Trump.
Where is that video of Lieberman whispering in McCain’s ear, telling him what to say.
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Divine definitely wore it better.
I wouldn't call him a Democratic plant, exactly. He parted ways with Democrats in plenty of ways. But to Democrats there were two things to love about him: his willingness to be incredibly nasty to conservatives who disagreed with him, and also his betrayal of Republicans on one issue that matters more to Democrats than any other: immigration. Replacing the historic American people with newcomers is their obsession, and they were more than willing to overlook their disagreements with McCain on those other issues.Replies: @Lugash, @TTSSYF, @Crew Cut Man, @Jonathan Mason, @Clyde
You are right, and Ann Coulter is right: immigration is essentially the only issue that matters, because if it’s not fixed–and fast–none of the other issues will matter one whit. We won’t have a country any more.
In return for her loyalty, he spent the last 10 years of his life blaming her for his defeat, directly and through flunkies like Steve Schmidt. Even at the end, he pointedly left her off the guest list to his funeral.
For all her faults, Ms. Palin is too nice to say this, so I will: McCain was a petty, vindictive SOB.Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @TTSSYF, @AndrewR, @AnotherDad, @Achmed E. Newman, @Jimi Shmendrix
Sarah Palin was abused by the media every bit as much as Trump is, and I think it made her act goofier than she would have if she had been treated fairly. Although it never totally destroyed her, she (like 99.9% of people) couldn’t slough it off as Trump apparently can (as he dishes it right back at them). I had mixed feelings about McCain and, as one commenter stated, cast my vote for him mostly as a vote against Obama. I turned on him when he openly turned on Palin. To not invite her to the funeral was the epitome of pettiness and vindictiveness.
Looks like Trump is trying to undermine my business plan for a kiosk selling tickets to do this:
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/08/26/trump-mccain/
This isn’t helping MAGA Trump! Buy a damn ticket.
Dems hope for the same outcome and act as if its already in the bag. They have generally good polling -- I assume they are right. Already they are threatening ICE agents and in California Jerry Brown is highly likely to pardon all Death Row inmates and perhaps even release them. He may even empty out the prisons of all Latino and Black (but not White) inmates. In a mass pardon.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Buzz Mohawk, @TTSSYF, @Glaivester, @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Jack Hanson
It may be wishful thinking on my part, but I’m not so sure about this blue wave in November. There are a lot of Trump supporters who keep quiet about it.
Slightly OT/Related to prior thread, a full length piece in Time re: W’s on-going image rehabilitation via his love affair with Michelle Obama:
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/5384902/george-bush-michelle-obama-candy-mccain-funeral
Seriously, given that McCain was an attention seeking minor politician, why did he need to write multiple memoirs? His biggest role in US history was crashing his presidential campaign like a Navy jet and paving the way for that utter cipher, Barrack Obama, to implement for the next four years all the dumb policies he half-remembered from the left wing social and political science seminars he took at Occidental College and Columbia U.
Moral Courage
Military service in [current year]
Pick two.Replies: @L Woods, @Stan d Mute
You can have all three, but then you’ll get fired for it. When a badass Marine can’t call his men “faggots” for doing something juvenile and dishonorable, you know America’s national defense rests solely in the hands of the guys running the silos and nuclear subs. Just wait till we find out he also called them “retards,” this man will probably face a firing squad..
https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2018/08/30/26-meu-battalion-commander-fired-during-deployment-over-equal-opportunity-concerns/
Some people can be trusted to take part in politics and some people can't. The New York Times will let you know who's qualified to engage in self-government and who's not. Apparently the people of Chemnitz are not; they're too blinded by ancestral passions. Let's face it, the difference between "Chemnitz" and "Auschwitz" is only a few letters.
https://twitter.com/juliaioffe/status/1035646059073155072
https://twitter.com/Holbornlolz/status/1035976453454622720Replies: @Cagey Beast, @kaganovitch
https://twitter.com/MarkACollett/status/1036151436382531585
Dems hope for the same outcome and act as if its already in the bag. They have generally good polling -- I assume they are right. Already they are threatening ICE agents and in California Jerry Brown is highly likely to pardon all Death Row inmates and perhaps even release them. He may even empty out the prisons of all Latino and Black (but not White) inmates. In a mass pardon.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Buzz Mohawk, @TTSSYF, @Glaivester, @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Jack Hanson
Uh – 2002 was one of the only times in the last century when the party in charge of the White House (the GOP at the time) gained seats in Congress in the mid-terms.
NOT a blue wave, just the opposite.
M. Jose
Yes, a McCain-Lieberman ticket would have gone nowhere.Replies: @jesse helms think-alike, @Stan d Mute, @Bragadocious
All I needed to know was that she rode snowmobiles and hunted. Any chick who can blast Bambi in the face with a 30-06 is a vast improvement over our current political class. If McStain wasn’t on the ticket, I would have voted in 2008.
Shooting a cervid in the vitals on field requires precision and self control.
Neither should be subject to a pornographizing impulse, nor cheapened as a sacred act between a very old People and the Herd that sustains and inspires us, and helps organize our seasons.
What a ingrate scumbag.
You almost get the impression that if given the chance, McCain would have given Lenin, Stalin and Mao a run for their money on who could murder the most people as a dictator.Replies: @AndrewR, @BB753
Why do you think Lenin was responsible for more deaths than Hitler (unless you inexplicably blame Lenin for what Stalin did after Lenin died)? I realize this is a right wing safe space, but to not include old Adolf in the top three seems pretty indefensible.
Neither stated nor implied. Why are you defending communists?
" I realize this is a right wing safe space, but to not include old Adolf in the top three seems pretty indefensible.
Who said my list was "top three"? How many straw men can you fit into two sentences? Why are you defending communists?
Anyway, I see you're very intent on missing the point of my comment. But by all means, please continue to lose your mind over the comparative examples I gave. :)
Such an idea is, of course, *precisely* what the ascendant culture—the one inaugurated into power via Obama—disputes. They reject not only the assertion that there is a founding principle of the American regime, but even that there is anything immutable about human biology.
It’s become a cliche already that this funeral “brought us all together as Americans.” Unanswered in all of the swooning is what it is that constitutes being an American, why it’s something distinctive, why it’s worth preserving and passing on. The same people who were mourning McCain’s death today as the passing of the last good white person will shortly return to their contemptuous destruction of everything American.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Rod1963, @ben tillman, @Bugg, @Forbes, @Olorin
McCain bragged that the longest he had lived in any one place was in Hanoi. Understandably how he got there was great personal sacrifice and it was a terrible experience. He was rootless. But really from his very birth in Panama his most native habitat would be Washington DC. And that’s a fever swamp filled with zealous often wrongheaded ideas on both sides of the aisle. Do something! The concept that people would like to be left alone, be they American taxpayers or Afghan goatherders , is alien to such place. You don’t get credit nor monument nor an obnoxious funeral for leaving people the f__ alone. Really that’s what the founding of this country was all about; a bunch of merchants so cranky about their faraway government taxing their beverage of choice that they would instead blow the heads off the most powerful army of it’s day to be left alone. And as Dennis Miller says, it wasn’t even coffee.
The spectacle of this funeral was appalling.
Trump really has acquired some serious space in the minds of all these people for them to forget they were at someone else’s funeral. It’s now an obsession. They were all supposed political opponents of one another yet here they are holding hands together, showing that they’re all basically on the same team. Not a dime’s worth of difference between them.
And that about sums it up, doesn't it?
If I were top brass in the US military, I’d either resign or blow my brains out! There’s no honor in serving this military, but dishonor. My guess is they’re gutless cowards.
How much did the week of McCain tributes and the over the top funeral cost? Who payed? Are we even allowed to ask?
Rather than a eulogy the funeral attendees should have made the case for invading Iran at funeral.
I think John would have liked that.
But for the record, the Puritans lived next door to the crazy Jews in the Netherlands, and no one has ever presented any theoretical or empirical reason to think that any "revolutionary" aspect of Puritanism did not come from their Jewish neighbors.Replies: @S. Anonyia, @Sarah Toga, @Le Autiste Corv, @Samuel Skinner
New Englanders always were known for their missionizing spirit and Messianism whether cloaked in overt, righteous, John Brown rhetoric or in the more prosaic, and less threatening rhetoric of
“improving”, whether it be Asian or Polynesian heathens or Southern barbarians. Perhaps the 17-century colonists weren’t Messianic, but their 18th and 19th-century descendants certainly were. P
Interesting little fact about the Battle of the Crater during the Civil War. White soldiers were sent in to the killing zone first because Meade didn’t want to be accused of using blacks as cannon fodder. I make this point because at a time when the Ashkenazi were still mostly peddlers, WASPs were already acting like characters in a Tom Wolfe novel.
People who criticize the Ashkenazi and blame them entirely for this PC b.s. and ignoring the role of the eternal Anglo and of low church Protestants, particularly Evangelicals, are either arguing from ignorance or in bad faith.
No one "blames" the Ashkenazim for this.
First, there is no "blame". There is just historical observation.
Second, the Jews in the Netherlands were Sephardic. How could you speak so confidently without knowing such a basic fact?
Third, the Messianic fervor and the Tikkun Olam of 15th/16th/17th-century Netherlands had an undeniably great influence on the English Puritans.
No, we are correct. There is no theoretical or empirical counter to our conclusion.Replies: @Le Autiste Corv
OT:
And then they came for Cyrano:
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/ny-ent-gerard-depardieu-under-investigation-sexual-assault-20180830-story.html
But Republican no longer means conservative or in the interests of America or )))Western((( civilization. Before Trump I would’ve said my favorite politicians are Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders. But now it’s. And except for all the dollars to the MIC and hiring the worst neo-cons for foreign policy positions, Trump is the best politician and president ever.
In return for her loyalty, he spent the last 10 years of his life blaming her for his defeat, directly and through flunkies like Steve Schmidt. Even at the end, he pointedly left her off the guest list to his funeral.
For all her faults, Ms. Palin is too nice to say this, so I will: McCain was a petty, vindictive SOB.Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @TTSSYF, @AndrewR, @AnotherDad, @Achmed E. Newman, @Jimi Shmendrix
Agreed. He had no one to blame but himself for choosing her, and she never once bad-mouthed him. The way she responded recently to his final disrespect towards her was very classy.
Ironically, I think he may very well have ripped that off an old iSteve post…
Indeed, “Sellout” is his epitaph. And had McCain died 10 years ago, Bush the II would have been the vilified persona non-grata instead of President Trump (remember McCain blamed Bush for his failed Presidential campaign run in 2000). And Steve Schmidt would have given a eulogy. My how times changed quickly for John McCain (except was his thirst for killing and war).
So what exactly was McCain’s greatest political achievement, which will be his legacy? He does not seem to have achieved much in recent years.
Well, those are pretty good values. At least he didn't say 'diversity.'Replies: @istevefan, @ben tillman
Notice how they never want to mention the Naturalization Act of 1790, passed by the First Congress and signed into law by the one and only G. Washington.
I wouldn't call him a Democratic plant, exactly. He parted ways with Democrats in plenty of ways. But to Democrats there were two things to love about him: his willingness to be incredibly nasty to conservatives who disagreed with him, and also his betrayal of Republicans on one issue that matters more to Democrats than any other: immigration. Replacing the historic American people with newcomers is their obsession, and they were more than willing to overlook their disagreements with McCain on those other issues.Replies: @Lugash, @TTSSYF, @Crew Cut Man, @Jonathan Mason, @Clyde
I don’t think that is true at all. I think it is simply a belief that economic growth depends on an expanding population. The same thing has happened in Britain for the same reason.
Mass importation of foreign consumers happens when resident populations are not producing enough babies. American has been done in by the birth control pill, the condom, and Medicaid. Childbirth is so unaffordable in the US today that very close to 50% of babies arrive on Medicaid.
That belief only makes sense if you have convinced yourself, against all evidence, that all the world's races are capable of producing the same economic value. When you import Muslims, Mestizos, and Africans, you are importing people who will take more from a welfare-state system than they contribute. They add to the dead weight of any society they enter. So the politicians importing them are working to destroy our country's prosperity, not to ensure it.
“Hey goy, you didn’t have any babies, now we gotta import millions of turd-worlders. It’s diversity!”
But the Democrats clearly have an interest in replacing Americans--who tend toward traditional American values--with foreigners, who are
-- more easily managed with ethnic politics
-- less concerned with the tradition American interest in freedom and happier with a larger bullying state, less rebellious
-- and balkanize the nation's population, making it harder for actual Americans to rebel (electorially or physically) against the state ("the swamp").
The Democrats recently are just "out" about this. They now preach this nation breaking Jewish "minoritarianism" as a core value of the United States. Their rhetoric is pretty hard to miss: "bitter clingers", "nation of immigrants", "undocumented", "diversity if our strength", "deplorables", "tired old white men", "immigrants are the real Americans". "no one is illegal", "dreamers are our future", "abolish ICE".
When you hear the Democrats saying we need to do something to raise the fertility of native American women ... get back to me. LOL.
2) If they were really worried about whites not having enough babies then why don't they support policies that would encourage white to have more babies? In reality they are obsessed with depressing the birthrates of whites.
Our infrastructure strains when the burden on it increases by even 10%. I'd love for leftists to experience their open borders fantasy for just a day, then they'd realize what they're getting us into. I'm guessing that's one movie Hollywood will probably never make.
Tuesday. Monday is Labor Day.
I’ve been away a bit, so I apologize if this has already been discussed. But how was McCain able to get this much expense and attention for his funeral? Other POWs like Admiral Stockdale, who actually won the Medal of Honor for his conduct during his POW years, was never afforded such a tribute. And I’ve never seen another Senator get this much treatment. McCain’s funeral was larger than President Reagan’s. It was on par with the famous Lincoln funeral train that made its way across the nation.
It appears this is what he was working on while away from the Senate these past several months. He seemed to give no thought to the healthcare issue, other than negating Trump. But he and his staff planned the most elaborate state funeral this nation has seen in generations. I’m assuming the taxpayers of Arizona and the US funded this. Can other politicians choreograph a similar event when their turn arises? I hope he has not set some sort of precedent.
It was a golden opportunity for the elites and their followers to bash Trump. "The enemy of my enemy" and "politics makes strange bedfellows" writ large.
I never thought to see so many leftists post approvingly of GWB on Facebook. Remember BDS? It's nothing to compared to the hatred Trump's enemies harbor for him.Replies: @istevefan, @David In TN, @Achmed E. Newman
Over the corpse of their first officially-canonized Saint, the Deep State united to intone their sacred principle: "Invade the World, Invite the World".
These soldiers climb up on their own crosses and demand that others hammer the nails in for good measure. Bloody fools.
Can someone stick a mike in front of Joe Lieberman and ask him what he thinks of Israel's recent declaration that it is an emphatically Jewish state?
Also please ask him what he thinks of all those Union vets in Congress who voted for the Chinese Exclusion Act back in 1882.Replies: @maxblame, @Sir Harry Paget Flashman VC
I could never stomach the unctuous sheeny. He’s making a speech here pretending to be the young ideal and he’s far advanced into old age. Grey lovelocks and the leering face of the devil himself.
It’s been tried. Monrovia, the constitution was a clone of the US constitution.
I don’t want to be tacky and celebrate McCain’s death. Instead, I’ll just say that I wish he had never been born.
It appears this is what he was working on while away from the Senate these past several months. He seemed to give no thought to the healthcare issue, other than negating Trump. But he and his staff planned the most elaborate state funeral this nation has seen in generations. I'm assuming the taxpayers of Arizona and the US funded this. Can other politicians choreograph a similar event when their turn arises? I hope he has not set some sort of precedent.Replies: @Kylie, @Captain Willard, @anon
“I’ve been away a bit, so I apologize if this has already been discussed. But how was McCain able to get this much expense and attention for his funeral?”
It was a golden opportunity for the elites and their followers to bash Trump. “The enemy of my enemy” and “politics makes strange bedfellows” writ large.
I never thought to see so many leftists post approvingly of GWB on Facebook. Remember BDS? It’s nothing to compared to the hatred Trump’s enemies harbor for him.
Exactly.Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
That video that commenter Johnny Walker embedded pissed me off greatly, and for some reason, especially the part in which GWB spouted his garbage. It reinforces my decision to stay off the idiot box.
Yes, a McCain-Lieberman ticket would have gone nowhere.Replies: @jesse helms think-alike, @Stan d Mute, @Bragadocious
I think McCain probably wanted Lieberman but his pollsters told him America wasn’t yet ready for an openly Israel-first Orthodox Jew one heartbeat away from the Oval Office. Too “obvious” even for a sellout like McCain. As for Palin, the good folks at Saturday Night Live quickly buried her. SNL is quite proud of its ability to tip elections, although it’s failing miserably with Trump.
Mass importation of foreign consumers happens when resident populations are not producing enough babies. American has been done in by the birth control pill, the condom, and Medicaid. Childbirth is so unaffordable in the US today that very close to 50% of babies arrive on Medicaid.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @pyrrhus, @BenKenobi, @AnotherDad, @backup, @Wilkey, @ben tillman
I think it is simply a belief that economic growth depends on an expanding population.
That belief only makes sense if you have convinced yourself, against all evidence, that all the world’s races are capable of producing the same economic value. When you import Muslims, Mestizos, and Africans, you are importing people who will take more from a welfare-state system than they contribute. They add to the dead weight of any society they enter. So the politicians importing them are working to destroy our country’s prosperity, not to ensure it.
Crops rotting, Maine is too white
https://www.pressherald.com/2018/09/02/maine-growers-hungry-for-workers/
Funny how stereotyping about low wage pliable workers is ok, when in the service of the Demographic Transformation.
It appears this is what he was working on while away from the Senate these past several months. He seemed to give no thought to the healthcare issue, other than negating Trump. But he and his staff planned the most elaborate state funeral this nation has seen in generations. I'm assuming the taxpayers of Arizona and the US funded this. Can other politicians choreograph a similar event when their turn arises? I hope he has not set some sort of precedent.Replies: @Kylie, @Captain Willard, @anon
C’mon man! You get it but you’re too shy just to say it out loud. This was the first Deep State Funeral in American history!
Over the corpse of their first officially-canonized Saint, the Deep State united to intone their sacred principle: “Invade the World, Invite the World”.
To quote Glenn Greenwald’s Twitter feed: “… thank God the US doesn’t have ‘state media’ the way they do in those Bad Countries that are Official Enemies of the US. Imagine how obsequious, dissent-free, protracted, nationalistic & emotionally manipulative media coverage of McCain’s death would have been.”
It looks like McCain’s goblin daughter, Megan, is a chip off the old block. I hope this hate-fueled creature doesn’t get anywhere near the reigns of political power. Although her father’s Zionist puppet-masters probably liked what they saw.
Ruben Navarrette Jr. (lol)
https://www.news-journal.com/opinion/navarrette-mccain-knew-immigrants-outwork-americans/article_471c8d7e-ae07-11e8-ba43-c390c70dbbe0.html
Is this tool even aware of who was elected just recently south of the border??? This is the attitude that is fueling the rise of communism, and living proof that the capitalist will sell the rope that they will be hung with.
McCain clearly cherished his “maverick” image. The Lone Wolf of the Senate, bravely daring to say the things that other men would not.
So…………….what did he ever say that was so brave? What position did he ever take that was so daring? What single thing did he ever do that would, even in the slightest way, discomfit the establishment powers in the land?
She’s pretty dumb, but the main problem is how trashy she is. How about that incident with the cops breaking up a big fist fight between her family and another, at a frat party, about 2 years ago.
Not so sure about that, my twitter, instagram, and facebook were all “how dare Ariana Grande where a minidress to a funeral” and “did you see Clinton look at her booty” and “that Bishop grabbed her boob” and “Faith Hill? WTF!?!”
It appears this is what he was working on while away from the Senate these past several months. He seemed to give no thought to the healthcare issue, other than negating Trump. But he and his staff planned the most elaborate state funeral this nation has seen in generations. I'm assuming the taxpayers of Arizona and the US funded this. Can other politicians choreograph a similar event when their turn arises? I hope he has not set some sort of precedent.Replies: @Kylie, @Captain Willard, @anon
Guys that know how to lose generally know how to die.
Such an idea is, of course, *precisely* what the ascendant culture—the one inaugurated into power via Obama—disputes. They reject not only the assertion that there is a founding principle of the American regime, but even that there is anything immutable about human biology.
It’s become a cliche already that this funeral “brought us all together as Americans.” Unanswered in all of the swooning is what it is that constitutes being an American, why it’s something distinctive, why it’s worth preserving and passing on. The same people who were mourning McCain’s death today as the passing of the last good white person will shortly return to their contemptuous destruction of everything American.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Rod1963, @ben tillman, @Bugg, @Forbes, @Olorin
A good description of reinforcement of The Narrative.
Shamelessly invoking “eternal truths” and “immutable principles” underlying American identity, which is precisely what the ascendant culture disputes.
The Big Lie.
he reason that McCain brings out the reactions that he does is partially due to applying an awkward left-right “spectrum” test to him. He gets some “maverick” pass because, according to said paradigm, his needle bounces like audio distortion.
McCain is in reality a pretty consistent example of another taxonomy that is really not that new: the globo-cap. Think Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, the Clintons, the Bushes, neocons, Lindsey Graham, and pretty much anyone who rubs elbows at the Davos Forum. Nations are experimental playthings that need “action” somehow and be transcended with abstract “freedom” and “innovation”, the power structure of which is never really explained; free trade will mythically heal all wounds, and those who question it are knuckledragging reactionaries; Wall Street is Team America; benevolent “creative class” functionaries will administer the world order with the WTO and NATO’s paperwork and missiles; retrograde societies need to be bombed or sanctioned into submission; Iran and Russia are cartoon devils. He fitted our country’s pop-imperialist techno-prog mentality quite well- a confused progressive militarism that used to be called Bonapartism, and was adept at making that militarism palatable to the sophisticated set.
McCain was an often reckless man who flattered establishment types for decades, while being barely kept in check.
This “maverick” tag comes from an ideology that doesn’t like to acknowledge that it exists.
He was the only Republican member of the Keating Five.
It’s like having two Popes. We have The Great Schism come again.
On TV McCain is a saint, a hero and a just plain wonderful fellow. On the Internet he’s a crook, a traitor and nasty vindictive bastard.
IN REALITY, he’s a crook, a traitor and nasty vindictive bastard.
Yes, it’s an infallible test–the anti-American politicians only praise others of their ilk….
I wouldn't call him a Democratic plant, exactly. He parted ways with Democrats in plenty of ways. But to Democrats there were two things to love about him: his willingness to be incredibly nasty to conservatives who disagreed with him, and also his betrayal of Republicans on one issue that matters more to Democrats than any other: immigration. Replacing the historic American people with newcomers is their obsession, and they were more than willing to overlook their disagreements with McCain on those other issues.Replies: @Lugash, @TTSSYF, @Crew Cut Man, @Jonathan Mason, @Clyde
Republican primary for the United States Senate from Arizona, 2010:
John McCain (inc.) – 284,374 (56.2%)
J.D. Hayworth – 162,502 (32.1%)
Jim Deakin – 59,447 (11.7%)
Talk about a nasty, stone cold liar who feels he is owed and owed and owed due to his years in North Vietnam POW camps. McLame came off as hard core on illegal immigration in this vicious 2010 campaign against J.D. Hayworth, who was a solid conservative. As I remember, McCain had a huge campaign war chest that he used. But more importantly, the lazy Arizona voters liked hearing McLames lies about being serious about border enforcement. I am pretty sure Dems could vote in that primary, I know party registration means nothing there as far as voting in Presidential primaries.
Mass importation of foreign consumers happens when resident populations are not producing enough babies. American has been done in by the birth control pill, the condom, and Medicaid. Childbirth is so unaffordable in the US today that very close to 50% of babies arrive on Medicaid.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @pyrrhus, @BenKenobi, @AnotherDad, @backup, @Wilkey, @ben tillman
Nonsense…Importing low IQ 3d worlders who take welfare and medical welfare merely destroys your society and explodes government debt…Which does increase our present demented calculation of GDP…..The Democrats want these people because they vote democrat, and the billionaires want them because they can make a few more billions by dumping the costs on American taxpayers…
McCain, Graham, Lieberman and their neocon ilk did much to elaborate Steve Sailer’s dictum:
Invade the world, invite the world, become the world.
A pox on all their houses.
But for the record, the Puritans lived next door to the crazy Jews in the Netherlands, and no one has ever presented any theoretical or empirical reason to think that any "revolutionary" aspect of Puritanism did not come from their Jewish neighbors.Replies: @S. Anonyia, @Sarah Toga, @Le Autiste Corv, @Samuel Skinner
Ah, you haven’t been introduced to modern reaction. If you want the details ask, but most people don’t find relentlessly cynical and clinical examination of human behavior interesting.
That is the Pilgrims. Who were a single congregation. The rest of the tens of thousands of Puritans came straight from England.
The Puritans of East Anglia lived next door to the Jews of the Netherlands. i.e. in the next-door polity. Look at a map. As D.H. Fischer pointed out, travel by sea was faster than travel by land in those days.
Well, those are pretty good values. At least he didn't say 'diversity.'Replies: @istevefan, @ben tillman
Human rights? Not even close.
The only human right (i.e., the only universalizable right) is the right to be free from aggression. Nothing could be more at odds with human rights than “Invade the world; invite the world.”
Mass importation of foreign consumers happens when resident populations are not producing enough babies. American has been done in by the birth control pill, the condom, and Medicaid. Childbirth is so unaffordable in the US today that very close to 50% of babies arrive on Medicaid.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @pyrrhus, @BenKenobi, @AnotherDad, @backup, @Wilkey, @ben tillman
“Hey goy, stop having babies. It’s feminism!”
“Hey goy, you didn’t have any babies, now we gotta import millions of turd-worlders. It’s diversity!”
As much as I disliked McCain, I would give him credit for having picked Sarah Palin as his running mate. The Lieberman comment in his last memoir erases that. Nil nisi bonum and all that, but we are well rid of the Senator.
It was a golden opportunity for the elites and their followers to bash Trump. "The enemy of my enemy" and "politics makes strange bedfellows" writ large.
I never thought to see so many leftists post approvingly of GWB on Facebook. Remember BDS? It's nothing to compared to the hatred Trump's enemies harbor for him.Replies: @istevefan, @David In TN, @Achmed E. Newman
For someone to plan their own funeral on a scale like this really shows how vain the man really was.
The borders may be porous, but rest assured that closer to home, law enforcement is taking good care of our communities’ safety.
Wilmette mom investigated for letting 8-year-old walk dog around the block.
In return for her loyalty, he spent the last 10 years of his life blaming her for his defeat, directly and through flunkies like Steve Schmidt. Even at the end, he pointedly left her off the guest list to his funeral.
For all her faults, Ms. Palin is too nice to say this, so I will: McCain was a petty, vindictive SOB.Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @TTSSYF, @AndrewR, @AnotherDad, @Achmed E. Newman, @Jimi Shmendrix
Some guys have a natural “hell raising” streak, or can be “difficult” out of high principle.
I’m unfit to judge the issue of McCain’s POW time–his behavior, the offer of early release, etc. (And I don’t want to wade into that swamp–whatever he did or didn’t do, he didn’t come home early.)
But i will say that there’s absolutely nothing in the public record of the rest of his personal or professional life that shows McCain to be a man of high character. His record is one of being just a rude, pompous asshole. A lowlife who will sell-out anything and trash anyone for the greater glory of John McCain’s fragile ego–most of all selling out the interests of his own voters, the American people.
Weight the evidence. Was McCain a Democrat plant? Does it really matter much whether he was or not if he functioned as one?
They only turned on Wilson and Johnson. Must've been their accents...Replies: @David In TN
The antiwar left disappeared when Obama entered the White House.
The consistent principle seems have boiled down to blind hatred of white males.Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
It was a golden opportunity for the elites and their followers to bash Trump. "The enemy of my enemy" and "politics makes strange bedfellows" writ large.
I never thought to see so many leftists post approvingly of GWB on Facebook. Remember BDS? It's nothing to compared to the hatred Trump's enemies harbor for him.Replies: @istevefan, @David In TN, @Achmed E. Newman
“It was a golden opportunity for the elites and their followers to bash Trump.”
Exactly.
Seriously, what kind of daughter delivers a eulogy throwing shade at someone her Dad hated?
They did the same at Aretha Franklin's funeral, though Aretha never expressed any opinion of DJT as far as I know. Again, Trump more on people's minds than the deceased.
These lefties are defined by their undignified behavior. Bizarre.
I've yet to meet anyone who gets that McCain was a literal Democrat plant. Maybe Obama giving a glowing eulogy will help but I suspect not. One bit of priming that really does work is people are terrified of being seen as "conspiracy theorists".Replies: @L Woods, @Clyde, @Joe Stalin, @MikeatMikedotMike, @Grumbler, @Jean Ralphio, @Svigor, @Wilkey, @Achmed E. Newman, @Buffalo Joe, @Art Deco
I appreciate your story, Mike. However, they are NOT fake Republicans. They are just plain Republicans, one of the two color-squads of THE PARTY. You may mean “fake conservatives”, as most of them are indeed that. After I’d heard the term RINO for a while, I realized that, cute as the term is, it’s erroneous. They are RIAs (Republicans In Actuality), or maybe CINOs. Nobody said Republicans were conservative – it’s just been the only place for conservatives to try to find help or be of help.
Think about this: Why did the Republican politicians try to do anything to block Donald Trump? He’s not a conservative in all aspects but he is (was?) on the existential immigration issue. They fought against him until we was President, knowing that now they may have to pretend to work with him. For 75% of the GOP politicians, if they could switch to D right now and still get elected, they’d have no problem doing that.
The problem isn't that they are fake Rs.
The problem is that R no longer means republican, small r. Many people sense or outright realize this. What's missing is a party that represents we small-r republicans. That articulates and is faithful to that vision of THIS republic.
Words can't express how it sickens me any time I have to vote for a Republican, whether they are the best of all worst choices or someone I actually would like to see hired for the office in question. When I think "Republican" I think Reagan, the Bushes, McCain, and all those puppets that Big Don had to defeat to win the GOP nomination...
...at the point the party realized it would never again win an election if its real republican voters jumped ship.
"Conservatism" was hacked in the 1980s to win elections by using cable TV to drive the white working and middle class into war with itself. It doesn't seek to "conserve" anything--not nature, not founding stock Americans, not the US's cultural heritage.
I've yet to meet anyone who gets that McCain was a literal Democrat plant. Maybe Obama giving a glowing eulogy will help but I suspect not. One bit of priming that really does work is people are terrified of being seen as "conspiracy theorists".Replies: @L Woods, @Clyde, @Joe Stalin, @MikeatMikedotMike, @Grumbler, @Jean Ralphio, @Svigor, @Wilkey, @Achmed E. Newman, @Buffalo Joe, @Art Deco
Mike1, It has to be Preparation H, because while many of us on this site are assholes, few are perfect assholes.
You nailed it, Joe. OK, Mike-1, what do we all win - a year's supply?
In return for her loyalty, he spent the last 10 years of his life blaming her for his defeat, directly and through flunkies like Steve Schmidt. Even at the end, he pointedly left her off the guest list to his funeral.
For all her faults, Ms. Palin is too nice to say this, so I will: McCain was a petty, vindictive SOB.Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @TTSSYF, @AndrewR, @AnotherDad, @Achmed E. Newman, @Jimi Shmendrix
I don’t think she was a GREAT selection, like Ron Paul would have been. However, her selection was the only thing that got me to even think about voting for the GOP in the ’08 Pres-election. As I’ve written here on unz, and here (Juan McAmnesty – Rot in Place) on Peak Stupidity, “I remember telling someone back then that I couldn’t be assured that McCain would get impeached or die in the first coupla years, so I’d just go ahead and vote Constitution/Libertarian again. ”
LOL
You nailed it, Joe. OK, Mike-1, what do we all win – a year’s supply?
Dems hope for the same outcome and act as if its already in the bag. They have generally good polling -- I assume they are right. Already they are threatening ICE agents and in California Jerry Brown is highly likely to pardon all Death Row inmates and perhaps even release them. He may even empty out the prisons of all Latino and Black (but not White) inmates. In a mass pardon.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Buzz Mohawk, @TTSSYF, @Glaivester, @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Jack Hanson
Whiskey, while some here might dismiss your comment about Jerry “Moon Beam” Brown as hyperbole, I would like to point out that Brown recently commuted the sentences of six convicted killers, all of whom were sentenced to “Life without the possibility of parole.” So, anything is possible.
A California native I can say xir has been among the worst of California s pols.Replies: @Anonymous
It was a golden opportunity for the elites and their followers to bash Trump. "The enemy of my enemy" and "politics makes strange bedfellows" writ large.
I never thought to see so many leftists post approvingly of GWB on Facebook. Remember BDS? It's nothing to compared to the hatred Trump's enemies harbor for him.Replies: @istevefan, @David In TN, @Achmed E. Newman
I can honestly say that I’ve not seen or heard ONE SINGLE THING about this scumbag’s funeral, eulogies or any of it, until this post here and the one with the comparison to a Kardashian and the comments thereunder. It’s so much more serene this way.
That video that commenter Johnny Walker embedded pissed me off greatly, and for some reason, especially the part in which GWB spouted his garbage. It reinforces my decision to stay off the idiot box.
On TV McCain is a saint, a hero and a just plain wonderful fellow. On the Internet he's a crook, a traitor and nasty vindictive bastard.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Steve in Greensboro
The truth lies somewhere in the middle, IMO, Pat. Just as I’d have been in favor of having co-popes during the schism, I’m in favor of McCain being both a saintly wonderful hero AND a crooked, traitorous nasty, vindictive bastard, so long as HE! REMAINS! SIX! FEET! BELOW! THE! DAMN! GROUND!.
Jonathon, hnmmm, best I can guess is if the GOP stays in power they will name a new warship after him, the Dems will name an open border gate for him. He also added a few books about himself to the library shelf, John meet Barrack.
Mass importation of foreign consumers happens when resident populations are not producing enough babies. American has been done in by the birth control pill, the condom, and Medicaid. Childbirth is so unaffordable in the US today that very close to 50% of babies arrive on Medicaid.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @pyrrhus, @BenKenobi, @AnotherDad, @backup, @Wilkey, @ben tillman
Jonathan, this is just wrong. The corporate sleaze has some interests along the lines you speak.
But the Democrats clearly have an interest in replacing Americans–who tend toward traditional American values–with foreigners, who are
— more easily managed with ethnic politics
— less concerned with the tradition American interest in freedom and happier with a larger bullying state, less rebellious
— and balkanize the nation’s population, making it harder for actual Americans to rebel (electorially or physically) against the state (“the swamp”).
The Democrats recently are just “out” about this. They now preach this nation breaking Jewish “minoritarianism” as a core value of the United States. Their rhetoric is pretty hard to miss: “bitter clingers”, “nation of immigrants”, “undocumented”, “diversity if our strength”, “deplorables”, “tired old white men”, “immigrants are the real Americans”. “no one is illegal”, “dreamers are our future”, “abolish ICE”.
When you hear the Democrats saying we need to do something to raise the fertility of native American women … get back to me. LOL.
Or care.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
I certainly don’t. I have avoided all the news coverage of McCain’s funeral and so far I have refrained from even commenting on his death. It does not seem to me as if anything significant has really transpired. There isn’t much to say about John McCain himself, but it would not be out of place here to say a few words about those “borderless American values” that his passing supposedly brought to the fore.
Most importantly, those values are not the standard litany of freedom, democracy, and equality mouthed over and over again by media and government figures. There is a reason why they say such things, but it is more the result of an unacknowledged mental ellipsis than a conscious commitment to those ideas in their original signification. For as long as America is a going concern, its fundamental activity will be described in precisely those terms as a sort of tribute to the old pieties, even as the state itself transforms its character from one year to the next. Consequently, the words have altered in meaning numberless times, and if one cares to look back at what was originally captured under the aegis of those highminded concepts, he will see that they ceased to be living and effective spiritual determinants some generations ago. But there is a word borrowed from the corporate lexicon that really does express the borderless values espoused by McCain and his contemporaries, and which therefore serves as the true underlying meaning of freedom and democracy today. It is a word not alien to Francis Fukuyama’s historiography nor to the actual governing practices of Obama or Merkel. The secret sinew tying these varied strings together is the word “Buy-in.”
“Buy-in” as a political philosophy means the process of persuading individuals that their interests are best served by aligning themselves with the supranational (i.e. “borderless”) and rational (i.e. “timeless”) socioeconomic regime. It is, in the minds of its adherents, quite judicious and even scientific in its use of carrots and sticks—precisely targeted cruise missiles for the worst malefactors, and for everyone else plenty of healthcare, education, cradle-to-grave welfare, free trade, and “economic opportunity.” To the chagrin of its detractors, Buy-in does not represent a deviation from the spirit of Western world history but is a new chord precisely in the key of that history and is a natural development from its earliest and most unalterable antecedents.
As a species of idea, it is thoroughly both post-Marxist and post-Imperialist. It is Marxist in the sense of recognizing only economic-material causes as operative in determining the cultural outlook of individuals and peoples, and also inasmuch as it posits a “class struggle” of sorts as the fundamental driver of historical progression. The old Marxist categories of bourgeoisie and proletariat have given way to a two-fold division between those who have achieved Buy-in (the “Imperium”) and those who are awaiting Buy-in (the “provinces”), these categories being applied irrespective of national origin. Foreign elites are every bit as much a part of the Imperium as native billionaires, while the autochthonous underclasses are relegated to provincial status with a stroke. The Imperialist aspects of Buy-in are are evident in its casual unwillingness to eschew the use of occupying military forces in pursuit of its objectives. McCain’s famous statement that the American military might remain in Iraq “for 100 years” is quite a natural expression of this attitude. The idea here was that American forces should sit like a lid on the Iraqi cauldron, picking off the militant opposition and distributing largess to a docile citizenry, while under the weight of this capstone the native Iraqi culture would slowly disintegrate until Buy-in was achieved.
The ruthless manner in which Buy-in sets itself against the existence of nations and borders, as well as any sort of racial or ethnic particularism, is due not to the sentiments of dreamy world-improvers, thrill-seeking xenophiles, or disillusioned native invalids—although these are the useful idiots who provide a great deal of energy to the movement and generally tend to swell its front ranks—but due to an essential and integral logical inconsistency between the one and the other outlook. “Race” is simply not a factor in what Buy-in considers to be enlightened economic self-interest. And since Buy-in recognizes no interests other than these, it cannot fit race into its matrix of causes and effects. It is not even a defined concept, not a computable term. Thus, when an officious modern thinker proudly proclaims that “race does not exist,” he is expressing something that is fundamentally true for him modulo the world-system in which he enunciates all of his ideas. This is no mere partisan cant, no airy Utopianism churned up in the detritus of an enervated mind, but an implacable logical consequence of this form of socioeconomic reductionism. The same arguments apply mutatis mutandis to the related concepts of nations, borders, and even sexes; however, the stubborn perdurance of these gives the lie to the theory and function as inadmissible embarrassments for it. They are therefore shoved into the background as “bigotry.”
In its gross effects, Buy-in strives constantly to make the world safe for oligarchy. Here “liberty” means only the free play of capital, with political correctness as the “ethics” of the market square. It is an attitude, an outlook, and a spirit that is quite characteristic of late imperial ages. However much we may see it tending towards dissolution and decay, we do a disservice to the spirit of historical accuracy not to recognize it as the governing morality of the times; and there is no other beside it. It is an effort doomed to failure, artificial and impossible but paradoxically deriving strength from its very unworldliness. In its missionary zeal to spread urban life to the farthest-flung corners of the globe, in its herculean effort to incorporate everyone and everything into the vast domain of its bureaucratic regulatory apparatus, it is fully representative of the great currents of being that run through these days. This is “Imperium,” pure and entire. It is, for almost everyone within the scope of the Western cultural sphere and certainly for anyone of significance within that sphere, the self-evident basis of all law, politics, ethics, and culture. It is the dividing line between good and bad men, between wisdom and foolishness, between the saved and the damned. It is the fate of such periods that, despite the obvious inadequacy and absurdity of their political forms, they are the only substrates in which the vestiges of true creative piety still inhere.
And these are the “American” values the John McCain defended until—literally—his dying breath. “Universal,” not by virtue of being everywhere and always true but because their devotees cannot imagine a contrary; “timeless,” because the sovereign reason has dispensed with all particularities of time and place; “American,” because as hegemon we bear a unique witness to the power of our undying creed. It is without irony that McCain is described as the great American hero, for he embodied the imperial style of our era. Without irony, yes, but not without blame; yet we must realize that any verdict pronounced upon him is likewise pronounced upon our entire existence as a people.
There are those who opine that the passing of McCain signifies the end of the Pax Americana, and that with him passed also the century of American greatness. They are correct, and I personally think the change has much to commend it. The Caesarism that follows in the wake of “Buy-in” will finally bring about the end of the hypocritical and monotonous program-politics of the imperial age by reacquainting us with the long-neglected realities. But those who believe this will bring about the Restoration of the West will be disappointed. What it brought, in many ways, is its conclusion.
Mass importation of foreign consumers happens when resident populations are not producing enough babies. American has been done in by the birth control pill, the condom, and Medicaid. Childbirth is so unaffordable in the US today that very close to 50% of babies arrive on Medicaid.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @pyrrhus, @BenKenobi, @AnotherDad, @backup, @Wilkey, @ben tillman
Growth is pointless in a growing population because it means sharing the larger wealth over more people. Case in point: Africa.
It is an anti-Trump display, a propaganda extravaganza.
Absolutely – the whole McCain passing was a security state love fest, promoting the national government and the neocon MIC.
With a gushing media, the government establishment types, were waving the flag and giving the middle class Trump voters the finger. There were no huge throngs of Americans at these events. It was mostly government show time and back patting. (The Senate’s endless praising of McCain was disgusting.)
The truth is that Trump has disturbed the establishment to its core.
Think Peace — Art
p.s. In the end, McCain showed his true petty nature by not inviting Palin.
Dems hope for the same outcome and act as if its already in the bag. They have generally good polling -- I assume they are right. Already they are threatening ICE agents and in California Jerry Brown is highly likely to pardon all Death Row inmates and perhaps even release them. He may even empty out the prisons of all Latino and Black (but not White) inmates. In a mass pardon.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Buzz Mohawk, @TTSSYF, @Glaivester, @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Jack Hanson
Whiskey, i was under the apprehension that while i’m an old guy–memory not what it once was–you’re a bit younger. You should have your memory checked.
The Wellstone funeral was a touchstone of political-funereral disaster. Not only was there no “blue wave”, with their over-the-top unpleasant politicing the Democrats managed to alienate even mild Minnesotans and lose Wellstone’s seat.
“Unhinged lunacy” is not really a winning message. Which is why we really need Trump to get some friggin’ message discipline and run on
— better economy
— closing the border and shutting down immigration–improving job prospects, housing prices and quality of life for Americans
— the Democrats–now open (“abolish ICE!)–open borders lunacy
This election should be a layup.
All I remember about Joe Lieberman was when he was Gore’s V-P nominee during the Year 2000 election near-theft, he was depicted as the side-man on the “Sore-Loserman” proto-meme. I attended a conference where members of my profession were seated together randomly. Several began mocking the Gore-Lieberman attempts to steal the election and referenced the “Sore-Loserman” t-shirts and bumperstickers that were already being sold. A woman became instantly incensed, declaring that criticism of the two was unacceptable among any of us for–get this– it was RACIST to mock them because evidently ‘ol Joe is a Jew. This lady liberal was way ahead of the curve when it came to using political correctness as an attempt to control the debate.
I've yet to meet anyone who gets that McCain was a literal Democrat plant. Maybe Obama giving a glowing eulogy will help but I suspect not. One bit of priming that really does work is people are terrified of being seen as "conspiracy theorists".Replies: @L Woods, @Clyde, @Joe Stalin, @MikeatMikedotMike, @Grumbler, @Jean Ralphio, @Svigor, @Wilkey, @Achmed E. Newman, @Buffalo Joe, @Art Deco
I’ve yet to meet anyone who gets that McCain was a literal Democrat plant.
You don’t because he wasn’t. The American Conservative Union reported that he voted with them 81% of the time over the course of his career (87% of the time prior to 1995, about 77% of the time thereafter). He was an episodic irritant but voted with the Republican caucus most of the time. About 20% of the current Senate Republican caucus would be at least as recalcitrant as far as party whips are concerned.
However, a good plant does his best to stay hidden. It's not just about how often you vote with your party, but more importantly, on which issues you choose to depart. You can vote with me 80% of the time, but if you vote against me when I need you the most, you can kill me.
Is it Axe Aftershave?Replies: @Stan d Mute, @Roderick Spode
Oxycontin
At last the Guardian’s opened comments on a McCain piece.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/01/john-mccain-was-complex-his-legacy-warrants-critical-discussion
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Jerry Brown is a long time death penalty opponent and advocate of minimal prison time for non Whites. He is the same non gendered person xe/xir was in 1968.
A California native I can say xir has been among the worst of California s pols.
The Wellstone funeral was a touchstone of political-funereral disaster. Not only was there no "blue wave", with their over-the-top unpleasant politicing the Democrats managed to alienate even mild Minnesotans and lose Wellstone's seat.
"Unhinged lunacy" is not really a winning message. Which is why we really need Trump to get some friggin' message discipline and run on
-- better economy
-- closing the border and shutting down immigration--improving job prospects, housing prices and quality of life for Americans
-- the Democrats--now open ("abolish ICE!)--open borders lunacy
This election should be a layup.Replies: @Whiskey
I thought Wells tones funeral was in 2006.
OT: Bulgarian artist drawing the swastikas on ambulances that American artists don’t want to draw:
https://nypost.com/2018/09/02/lawyers-say-man-drawing-swastikas-on-fdny-ambulances-is-an-artist/
His Chinese lawyer says it can’t be a hate crime because he has ‘ties to the community.’
Exactly.Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
Trump was ‘uninvited’ to the funeral ( since when did funerals have invitations?), but as usual, he was more of a presence than the corpse.
Seriously, what kind of daughter delivers a eulogy throwing shade at someone her Dad hated?
They did the same at Aretha Franklin’s funeral, though Aretha never expressed any opinion of DJT as far as I know. Again, Trump more on people’s minds than the deceased.
These lefties are defined by their undignified behavior. Bizarre.
Mass importation of foreign consumers happens when resident populations are not producing enough babies. American has been done in by the birth control pill, the condom, and Medicaid. Childbirth is so unaffordable in the US today that very close to 50% of babies arrive on Medicaid.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @pyrrhus, @BenKenobi, @AnotherDad, @backup, @Wilkey, @ben tillman
1) The biggest open borders fanatics amongst the Democrats don’t seem to care about economic growth at all. Most of them don’t spend much time thinking through the consequences of any policy they support, though plenty are aware that our current immigration rates will lead to a white minority.
2) If they were really worried about whites not having enough babies then why don’t they support policies that would encourage white to have more babies? In reality they are obsessed with depressing the birthrates of whites.
Our infrastructure strains when the burden on it increases by even 10%. I’d love for leftists to experience their open borders fantasy for just a day, then they’d realize what they’re getting us into. I’m guessing that’s one movie Hollywood will probably never make.
Ironically if “patriotic” “maverick” John McCain, had actually been a patriot and a maverick he would have run in 2008 on:
— closing the border, stopping immigration, deporting illegals–jobs go to American workers
— reigning in Wall Street, stopping bailouts from going to the crooks and reform to get them permanently off the taxpayer tit (no heads i win, tails you lose)
— closing down Iraq and Afghanistan nation building foreign adventures and instead focusing on killing terrorists and most of all making sure they–and Islam in general–are kept out of the United States (and the West generally)
… McCain would have become President of the United States!
It’s precisely because McCain is neither any sort of “maverick” nor a patriot–but a generic globalist tool–that his legacy is “loser”.
Here's a clue: there have been no "terrorist threats" ever since the CIA and FBI have been so totally focused on destroying Trump.
Funny dat.
With respect for what the guy went through, his last days were grotesque. The guy's handing phonied-up opposition dossiers on his own party's candidate to the FBI, then he crawls out of his deathbed to save Obamacare, for no other reason than as an F U to Trump.
“America” no longer embodies any values worth defending.
Dems hope for the same outcome and act as if its already in the bag. They have generally good polling -- I assume they are right. Already they are threatening ICE agents and in California Jerry Brown is highly likely to pardon all Death Row inmates and perhaps even release them. He may even empty out the prisons of all Latino and Black (but not White) inmates. In a mass pardon.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Buzz Mohawk, @TTSSYF, @Glaivester, @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Jack Hanson
Its no wonder Steve quotes you since your level of political commentary is about where his is.
“Wellstoned” is a term for when a political spectacle backfires on the party putting it on.
http://media.graytvinc.com/images/810*455/Cops+called+when+child+walks+dog+alone.pngReplies: @Mr. Rational
The irony is that if it’s unsafe for this 8-yr-old to walk the dog around the block, it’s because of the likes of McCain allowing and even mandating via “integration” laws that all kinds of incompatible and often hostile people (not just immigrants both illegal and legal, but racial minorities) are put into once-safe communities. The mom isn’t who they should be investigating.
We need a “SMH” button.
The indispensable James Corbett Has a great piece on the destruction of the US here.
https://www.corbettreport.com/the-death-of-swift-and-the-engineered-death-of-the-dollar/
-- closing the border, stopping immigration, deporting illegals--jobs go to American workers
-- reigning in Wall Street, stopping bailouts from going to the crooks and reform to get them permanently off the taxpayer tit (no heads i win, tails you lose)
-- closing down Iraq and Afghanistan nation building foreign adventures and instead focusing on killing terrorists and most of all making sure they--and Islam in general--are kept out of the United States (and the West generally)
... McCain would have become President of the United States!
It's precisely because McCain is neither any sort of "maverick" nor a patriot--but a generic globalist tool--that his legacy is "loser".Replies: @Bill Jones, @Ghost of Bull Moose
You really buy into the “terrorist” bullshit?
Here’s a clue: there have been no “terrorist threats” ever since the CIA and FBI have been so totally focused on destroying Trump.
Funny dat.
Did our recently arrived Muslim and Latino compatriots find it as moving as the liberal establishment did?Replies: @ChrisZ, @Reg Cæsar
With Serie A, La Liga, the Premier League, and the Bundesliga all having begun their seasons this month, I doubt they’re even aware it took place.
Disappeared, or morphed into the pro-war left? Remember Seeger and Trumbo. And Barbra Streisand in The Way We Were.
The only human right (i.e., the only universalizable right) is the right to be free from aggression. Nothing could be more at odds with human rights than "Invade the world; invite the world."Replies: @Anonymous, @Ghost of Bull Moose
Good comment.
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD LIEBERMAN BE PUT IN TRUMP’S CABINET. The Idea has been floated but that guy’s a Swamp Creature of the deepest, swampiest tier
I had thought that John Bolton was/is bad. But Lieberman in Trump's cabinet would be the sickest of sick jokes, all at the expense of the American people.
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD LIEBERMAN BE PUT IN TRUMP’S CASKET.
Better check my eyeglass prescription....
Paul McCartney sez he saw God while taking a drug trip. He sez that God looked like a huge Wall. This was before Donald Trump announced his presidential candidacy in June of 2015. What Paul probably saw was John McCain’s brain cancer or Aretha Franklin’s ass crack.
-- closing the border, stopping immigration, deporting illegals--jobs go to American workers
-- reigning in Wall Street, stopping bailouts from going to the crooks and reform to get them permanently off the taxpayer tit (no heads i win, tails you lose)
-- closing down Iraq and Afghanistan nation building foreign adventures and instead focusing on killing terrorists and most of all making sure they--and Islam in general--are kept out of the United States (and the West generally)
... McCain would have become President of the United States!
It's precisely because McCain is neither any sort of "maverick" nor a patriot--but a generic globalist tool--that his legacy is "loser".Replies: @Bill Jones, @Ghost of Bull Moose
McCain’s treatments gave him Irish Alzheimer’s: he forgot everything but his grudges.
With respect for what the guy went through, his last days were grotesque. The guy’s handing phonied-up opposition dossiers on his own party’s candidate to the FBI, then he crawls out of his deathbed to save Obamacare, for no other reason than as an F U to Trump.
CrunchybutRealistCon:
I had thought that John Bolton was/is bad. But Lieberman in Trump’s cabinet would be the sickest of sick jokes, all at the expense of the American people.
I guess if your kids starting abusing cocaine that makes you a drug addict.
The only human right (i.e., the only universalizable right) is the right to be free from aggression. Nothing could be more at odds with human rights than "Invade the world; invite the world."Replies: @Anonymous, @Ghost of Bull Moose
Neither of those guys actually held those values.
I agree. I’m not excusing McCain’s many flaws as a man or politician but after eight years of W, I think the Democrats would’ve won the Presidency in ‘08 if they nominated a dead chicken to run.
One more reminder that biology is upstream of culture, which is upstream of politics.
The Lt. Col. should have paraphrased Sarah Silverman’s line: “I didn’t mean faggoty like homosexual. I meant faggoty like retarded.”
This led "Them" to crash the stock market and almost destroy capitalism in order to ensure a Obama victory.
It's a good thing that Trump was trailing in all polls in the run up to the 2016 elections. There's no telling what "They' would have done and what depths to which "They" would have sunk if somehow a poll showed Trump in the lead.Replies: @Mr. Rational
To the extent that the pollaganda was the product of over-sampling Democrat voters, the failure to guarantee an adequate margin of fraud and the subsequent upset victory for Trump was an own-goal.
Watching the Left shift positions on what should be important issues to them tells a lot about their true motives. They were against war under Nixon and Reagan and for it under Clinton and O’bama. They said “Judge people by the content of their character, not the color of their skin” when bashing white Southerners, and now promote race preference, race retribution, and race war. They hated Wall Street in the 60’s and hate deplorable working stiffs today.
The consistent principle seems have boiled down to blind hatred of white males.
The ability to impose their will on the way others think and live is completely arousing to all Leftists.
This is also why they make common cause with the Islamics - both ideologies are diametrically opposed to the idea of live and let live.
Of himself and McCain, Obama said. “We never doubted we were on the same team.”
And that about sums it up, doesn’t it?
On TV McCain is a saint, a hero and a just plain wonderful fellow. On the Internet he's a crook, a traitor and nasty vindictive bastard.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Steve in Greensboro
“On TV McCain is a saint, a hero and a just plain wonderful fellow.”
IN REALITY, he’s a crook, a traitor and nasty vindictive bastard.
Did Steve Sailer come up with “invade the world, invite the world”? Someone called Virgil at Breitbart just used that expression:
Some of those last few words deserve a second look: “Seemed like a funeral not so much for McCain, but for an ideology which had once sustained America’s imperial hegemony, and is now on the way out.”
Tracey’s argument is that McCain-style “neoconservatism,” which can be summed up as invade the world, invite the world, is now a goner. While the Establishment—including plenty of Democrats—loves it, most Americans don’t.
Breitbart
Steve is too humble or non-self-aggrandizing to confirm that he authored invade the world, invite the world. I believe that he also added in hock to the world.
“Why do you think Lenin was responsible for more deaths than Hitler ”
Neither stated nor implied. Why are you defending communists?
” I realize this is a right wing safe space, but to not include old Adolf in the top three seems pretty indefensible.
Who said my list was “top three”? How many straw men can you fit into two sentences? Why are you defending communists?
Anyway, I see you’re very intent on missing the point of my comment. But by all means, please continue to lose your mind over the comparative examples I gave. 🙂
If he can’t find better words to express his anger at such incidents, perhaps he lacks the sense needed to be a commander.
John McCain (inc.) - 284,374 (56.2%)
J.D. Hayworth – 162,502 (32.1%)
Jim Deakin – 59,447 (11.7%) Talk about a nasty, stone cold liar who feels he is owed and owed and owed due to his years in North Vietnam POW camps. McLame came off as hard core on illegal immigration in this vicious 2010 campaign against J.D. Hayworth, who was a solid conservative. As I remember, McCain had a huge campaign war chest that he used. But more importantly, the lazy Arizona voters liked hearing McLames lies about being serious about border enforcement. I am pretty sure Dems could vote in that primary, I know party registration means nothing there as far as voting in Presidential primaries.Replies: @Jack Hanson, @David In TN
Hayworth was sold out by the Mormons, who then voted en bloc for McCain as per their orders.
A California native I can say xir has been among the worst of California s pols.Replies: @Anonymous
He was the envy of much of the country when I was in high school for banging the snot out of Linda Ronstadt. I never thought Ronstadt was that hot appearance wise but she was certainly the best of her generation of pop-rock singers and had a lot of hits. Jann Wenner, might be gay now but he was sure as hell hetero for her in her salad days. Her constant appearance in Rolling Stone was by no means the key to her success, but she went from big to bigger because of it.
Rimshot
John McCain (inc.) - 284,374 (56.2%)
J.D. Hayworth – 162,502 (32.1%)
Jim Deakin – 59,447 (11.7%) Talk about a nasty, stone cold liar who feels he is owed and owed and owed due to his years in North Vietnam POW camps. McLame came off as hard core on illegal immigration in this vicious 2010 campaign against J.D. Hayworth, who was a solid conservative. As I remember, McCain had a huge campaign war chest that he used. But more importantly, the lazy Arizona voters liked hearing McLames lies about being serious about border enforcement. I am pretty sure Dems could vote in that primary, I know party registration means nothing there as far as voting in Presidential primaries.Replies: @Jack Hanson, @David In TN
Never underestimate the stupidity of the voters in Republican primaries.
The Democrats figured to win with any credible nominee. Hillary would have beaten McCain handily in 2008.
Some of those last few words deserve a second look: “Seemed like a funeral not so much for McCain, but for an ideology which had once sustained America’s imperial hegemony, and is now on the way out.”
Tracey’s argument is that McCain-style “neoconservatism,” which can be summed up as invade the world, invite the world, is now a goner. While the Establishment—including plenty of Democrats—loves it, most Americans don’t.
BreitbartReplies: @Dan Hayes
Matra:
Steve is too humble or non-self-aggrandizing to confirm that he authored invade the world, invite the world. I believe that he also added in hock to the world.
The consistent principle seems have boiled down to blind hatred of white males.Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
Even beyond that singular hatred is the Leftist will to power.
The ability to impose their will on the way others think and live is completely arousing to all Leftists.
This is also why they make common cause with the Islamics – both ideologies are diametrically opposed to the idea of live and let live.
That is pretty funny, but I’ve honestly never had it.
The gag worthy essay on fat Megan by the NYT.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/02/us/politics/meghan-mccain-funeral-trump.html
No doubt a majority of Mormons voted for McCain in that primary, but there were no marching orders and he would have won even if every Mormon voted for Hayworth. I voted for Hayworth and I voted for Kelli Ward when she ran against him.
Him supporting Flake for Kyl's seat was part of the price he paid.
The Christians in the Netherlands did not live “next door to” the Jews of the Netherlands; they lived with or among them in the same polity.
The Puritans of East Anglia lived next door to the Jews of the Netherlands. i.e. in the next-door polity. Look at a map. As D.H. Fischer pointed out, travel by sea was faster than travel by land in those days.
Did not realize Puritans lived next to Jews in the Netherlands. I think those would be Sephardic though and they aren’t really known for being particularly ideological. Though I could be wrong and am curious.Replies: @ben tillman, @ben tillman
I could write a book in response to your comment.
OT, I've seen reference in these comment threads of studies that find the Puritan settlers were high IQ. It seems the Puritan movement attracted people with high verbal ability. Interesting. That could turn out to be good or bad. Obama's mother was a descendant of Puritans who went over to the Unitarian/Universalist sect.Replies: @ben tillman
No, I am not.
I have no real opinion as to whether growth is a good thing, but in the US more people means more homes built, which means more refrigerators and TVs sold, more insurance policies sold, more customers for cable TV, ADT, and H & R Block, more dog food sold, more cars, and so on. It also means that more money is sent overseas to be spent on American consumer luxuries like Pampers brand diapers, and Kelloggs cornflakes.
This may not be good for you and me, but it is an ill wind that blows nobody any good and to some extent the people who benefit financially from an increasing population will act as a counterweight to those who are losing out due to an increased population.
"improving", whether it be Asian or Polynesian heathens or Southern barbarians. Perhaps the 17-century colonists weren't Messianic, but their 18th and 19th-century descendants certainly were. PInteresting little fact about the Battle of the Crater during the Civil War. White soldiers were sent in to the killing zone first because Meade didn't want to be accused of using blacks as cannon fodder. I make this point because at a time when the Ashkenazi were still mostly peddlers, WASPs were already acting like characters in a Tom Wolfe novel.People who criticize the Ashkenazi and blame them entirely for this PC b.s. and ignoring the role of the eternal Anglo and of low church Protestants, particularly Evangelicals, are either arguing from ignorance or in bad faith.Replies: @ben tillman
No, those why deny this truth are arguing from ignorance or bad faith. Your assertions have no theoretical or empirical support.
No one “blames” the Ashkenazim for this.
First, there is no “blame”. There is just historical observation.
Second, the Jews in the Netherlands were Sephardic. How could you speak so confidently without knowing such a basic fact?
Third, the Messianic fervor and the Tikkun Olam of 15th/16th/17th-century Netherlands had an undeniably great influence on the English Puritans.
No, we are correct. There is no theoretical or empirical counter to our conclusion.
Did not realize Puritans lived next to Jews in the Netherlands. I think those would be Sephardic though and they aren’t really known for being particularly ideological. Though I could be wrong and am curious.Replies: @ben tillman, @ben tillman
That’s all Tikkun Olam,which they got from their Jewish next-door neighbors who were trying to open Britain to Jewish immigration.
According to Johnny Carson, when Pete Wilson defeated “Governor Moonbeam,” that very night he called up Ronstadt to ask her for a date
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Sounds like a bogus ideology The facts are as I stated them.
Mass importation of foreign consumers happens when resident populations are not producing enough babies. American has been done in by the birth control pill, the condom, and Medicaid. Childbirth is so unaffordable in the US today that very close to 50% of babies arrive on Medicaid.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @pyrrhus, @BenKenobi, @AnotherDad, @backup, @Wilkey, @ben tillman
No, the natives could expand the population with their own kids. But that is discouraged.
You’re right. You don’t see pretty blondes even on college campuses any more. A friend once pointed out a slim pretty blonde and said “ that’s a California girl”. I pointed to a gaggle of 4’ 10 200 pound Ugly Indians and said
“ no those are California girls”
The only place I’ve seen blondes is the Malibu playground where pretty blonde moms bring their pretty blonde toddlers to play.
Last summer I took the trolley with the crazy old Chinese fat guy up to the Griffith Observatory.....plenty of blonds and tourists up that way in those hills......
Second, since blonde/blond is a recessive trait (I am one, at least prior to going gray, and I have two blonde daughters), perhaps we should put us on an Endangered Species List. Maybe create our own ethnic or racial category, since we are few in absolute numbers and our percentage of population, both national and global, is dropping fast.Replies: @S. Anonyia
Most importantly, those values are not the standard litany of freedom, democracy, and equality mouthed over and over again by media and government figures. There is a reason why they say such things, but it is more the result of an unacknowledged mental ellipsis than a conscious commitment to those ideas in their original signification. For as long as America is a going concern, its fundamental activity will be described in precisely those terms as a sort of tribute to the old pieties, even as the state itself transforms its character from one year to the next. Consequently, the words have altered in meaning numberless times, and if one cares to look back at what was originally captured under the aegis of those highminded concepts, he will see that they ceased to be living and effective spiritual determinants some generations ago. But there is a word borrowed from the corporate lexicon that really does express the borderless values espoused by McCain and his contemporaries, and which therefore serves as the true underlying meaning of freedom and democracy today. It is a word not alien to Francis Fukuyama's historiography nor to the actual governing practices of Obama or Merkel. The secret sinew tying these varied strings together is the word "Buy-in."
"Buy-in" as a political philosophy means the process of persuading individuals that their interests are best served by aligning themselves with the supranational (i.e. "borderless") and rational (i.e. "timeless") socioeconomic regime. It is, in the minds of its adherents, quite judicious and even scientific in its use of carrots and sticks---precisely targeted cruise missiles for the worst malefactors, and for everyone else plenty of healthcare, education, cradle-to-grave welfare, free trade, and "economic opportunity." To the chagrin of its detractors, Buy-in does not represent a deviation from the spirit of Western world history but is a new chord precisely in the key of that history and is a natural development from its earliest and most unalterable antecedents.
As a species of idea, it is thoroughly both post-Marxist and post-Imperialist. It is Marxist in the sense of recognizing only economic-material causes as operative in determining the cultural outlook of individuals and peoples, and also inasmuch as it posits a "class struggle" of sorts as the fundamental driver of historical progression. The old Marxist categories of bourgeoisie and proletariat have given way to a two-fold division between those who have achieved Buy-in (the "Imperium") and those who are awaiting Buy-in (the "provinces"), these categories being applied irrespective of national origin. Foreign elites are every bit as much a part of the Imperium as native billionaires, while the autochthonous underclasses are relegated to provincial status with a stroke. The Imperialist aspects of Buy-in are are evident in its casual unwillingness to eschew the use of occupying military forces in pursuit of its objectives. McCain's famous statement that the American military might remain in Iraq "for 100 years" is quite a natural expression of this attitude. The idea here was that American forces should sit like a lid on the Iraqi cauldron, picking off the militant opposition and distributing largess to a docile citizenry, while under the weight of this capstone the native Iraqi culture would slowly disintegrate until Buy-in was achieved.
The ruthless manner in which Buy-in sets itself against the existence of nations and borders, as well as any sort of racial or ethnic particularism, is due not to the sentiments of dreamy world-improvers, thrill-seeking xenophiles, or disillusioned native invalids---although these are the useful idiots who provide a great deal of energy to the movement and generally tend to swell its front ranks---but due to an essential and integral logical inconsistency between the one and the other outlook. "Race" is simply not a factor in what Buy-in considers to be enlightened economic self-interest. And since Buy-in recognizes no interests other than these, it cannot fit race into its matrix of causes and effects. It is not even a defined concept, not a computable term. Thus, when an officious modern thinker proudly proclaims that "race does not exist," he is expressing something that is fundamentally true for him modulo the world-system in which he enunciates all of his ideas. This is no mere partisan cant, no airy Utopianism churned up in the detritus of an enervated mind, but an implacable logical consequence of this form of socioeconomic reductionism. The same arguments apply mutatis mutandis to the related concepts of nations, borders, and even sexes; however, the stubborn perdurance of these gives the lie to the theory and function as inadmissible embarrassments for it. They are therefore shoved into the background as "bigotry."
In its gross effects, Buy-in strives constantly to make the world safe for oligarchy. Here "liberty" means only the free play of capital, with political correctness as the "ethics" of the market square. It is an attitude, an outlook, and a spirit that is quite characteristic of late imperial ages. However much we may see it tending towards dissolution and decay, we do a disservice to the spirit of historical accuracy not to recognize it as the governing morality of the times; and there is no other beside it. It is an effort doomed to failure, artificial and impossible but paradoxically deriving strength from its very unworldliness. In its missionary zeal to spread urban life to the farthest-flung corners of the globe, in its herculean effort to incorporate everyone and everything into the vast domain of its bureaucratic regulatory apparatus, it is fully representative of the great currents of being that run through these days. This is "Imperium," pure and entire. It is, for almost everyone within the scope of the Western cultural sphere and certainly for anyone of significance within that sphere, the self-evident basis of all law, politics, ethics, and culture. It is the dividing line between good and bad men, between wisdom and foolishness, between the saved and the damned. It is the fate of such periods that, despite the obvious inadequacy and absurdity of their political forms, they are the only substrates in which the vestiges of true creative piety still inhere.
And these are the "American" values the John McCain defended until---literally---his dying breath. "Universal," not by virtue of being everywhere and always true but because their devotees cannot imagine a contrary; "timeless," because the sovereign reason has dispensed with all particularities of time and place; "American," because as hegemon we bear a unique witness to the power of our undying creed. It is without irony that McCain is described as the great American hero, for he embodied the imperial style of our era. Without irony, yes, but not without blame; yet we must realize that any verdict pronounced upon him is likewise pronounced upon our entire existence as a people.
There are those who opine that the passing of McCain signifies the end of the Pax Americana, and that with him passed also the century of American greatness. They are correct, and I personally think the change has much to commend it. The Caesarism that follows in the wake of "Buy-in" will finally bring about the end of the hypocritical and monotonous program-politics of the imperial age by reacquainting us with the long-neglected realities. But those who believe this will bring about the Restoration of the West will be disappointed. What it brought, in many ways, is its conclusion.Replies: @ben tillman
Do the Democrats have even one policy that is consistent with the idea of the country as a going concern?
Probably, but the size and shape of that Democratic victory might have been different, and thus the laws and policies of the incoming Democratic administration and Congress might have been different. A savvier Republican national ticket would probably have still lost, but might have dragged a few Republican Senators across the finish line (filibuster) along with some HoR seats.
Where are you people from? I get nothing political on Facebook.
You don't because he wasn't. The American Conservative Union reported that he voted with them 81% of the time over the course of his career (87% of the time prior to 1995, about 77% of the time thereafter). He was an episodic irritant but voted with the Republican caucus most of the time. About 20% of the current Senate Republican caucus would be at least as recalcitrant as far as party whips are concerned.Replies: @Noah172, @Ifrank
The ACU doesn’t factor immigration in these scorecards. At least, they didn’t for 2013 (Gang of 8). Even setting aside that immigration is the most important issue (the view of people who read and comment on this blog), weighting immigration equally with other issues would still drag McCain’s score down (and, e.g., Jeff Flake, lifetime 93). Weighting it properly would put McCain and others in the toilet.
Yes. This.
I’ve always thought using the Left’s words against them is a winner.
– Fear mongering. “Saying America doesn’t have a chance to win a trade war with China is fear mongering.”
– Conspiracy theory. “Russia collusion is a crazy conspiracy theory.”
– Holocaust denial. “Denying that Whites in South Africa are being murdered daily because of their race makes you sound like a holocaust denier.”
Rinse and repeat, and repeat again.
For many of those people, Labor Day is May 1.
Alpha as in drilling for offshore oil said Senator Howard Heflin. Mavericks all! As in unique, very special, Lionized Lionizated US Senate mavericks. Did I mention they were all true mavericks? Not like light in the loafers Linseed Graham, trying desperately to pick up McCain's maverick mantle. Oh how he cried at
Aretha'sMcCain's funeral.Replies: @Reg CæsarHeflin was a tranny?
Some refreshingly different views of McCain:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-media-on-mccain-and-russophobia-john-mccains-flawed-foreign-policy-advocacy/5652410
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/437454-mccain-funeral-historical-revisionism/
https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-media-on-mccain-and-russophobia-john-mccains-flawed-foreign-policy-advocacy/5652410
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/437454-mccain-funeral-historical-revisionism/Replies: @PiltdownMan
Over in the UK, the comments on this Guardian assessment of John McCain, by its usual lefty readers, are overwhelmingly, and scathingly, critical.
Left liberals in America are pretty much alone in their hagiography of McCain.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/01/john-mccain-was-complex-his-legacy-warrants-critical-discussion
Rather than a eulogy the funeral attendees should have made the case for invading Iran at funeral.
I think John would have liked that.Replies: @PiltdownMan
I hope that his billionaire widow gets presented with the bill, but I bet the taxpayer will actually end up footing most of the bill. Protocol and government rules count for little when you have the kind of insider clout McCain had. Washington DC takes care of its own.
“ no those are California girls”
The only place I’ve seen blondes is the Malibu playground where pretty blonde moms bring their pretty blonde toddlers to play.Replies: @Neoconned, @Sarah Toga
There are blondes up in Los Feliz and those areas near Hollywood.
Last summer I took the trolley with the crazy old Chinese fat guy up to the Griffith Observatory…..plenty of blonds and tourists up that way in those hills……
Joe Lieberman also ghost wrote “1,001 Uses For a Dead Cat.”
Or maybe it was the Matrix revealing itself.Replies: @Vojkan
How’d she know they were crying? Maybe they were actually pissing.
You don't because he wasn't. The American Conservative Union reported that he voted with them 81% of the time over the course of his career (87% of the time prior to 1995, about 77% of the time thereafter). He was an episodic irritant but voted with the Republican caucus most of the time. About 20% of the current Senate Republican caucus would be at least as recalcitrant as far as party whips are concerned.Replies: @Noah172, @Ifrank
Good factual response, Art.
However, a good plant does his best to stay hidden. It’s not just about how often you vote with your party, but more importantly, on which issues you choose to depart. You can vote with me 80% of the time, but if you vote against me when I need you the most, you can kill me.
You cannot blame me and Tiny Duck. That line was copy n pasted off a yahoo site. For $10,000 Alex. What was Howard Heflin referring to with Ted Kennnedy?
No one "blames" the Ashkenazim for this.
First, there is no "blame". There is just historical observation.
Second, the Jews in the Netherlands were Sephardic. How could you speak so confidently without knowing such a basic fact?
Third, the Messianic fervor and the Tikkun Olam of 15th/16th/17th-century Netherlands had an undeniably great influence on the English Puritans.
No, we are correct. There is no theoretical or empirical counter to our conclusion.Replies: @Le Autiste Corv
We were talking about the U.S. Within the U.S. the argument is the Eastern European Ashkenazim have had an outsized role in the Cultural Left in the last 50 years, leading feckless WASPs by the nose. I’d argue Jewish leftist were successful because WASPs were already primed to engage in Messianism because the Reformation destroyed the role of the Roman hierarchy which for centuries did a pretty good job of keeping down destructive Messianic and Millenarian impulses (which are baked into the dna of Christianity), combine this with bourgeois ambition unchecked by nobility and neurosis about status and you have the U.S.
There were Sephardim in the U.S. since colonial times, they weren’t know to be particularly Leftist or Messianic. Indeed, they and German Jews were conservative. For example, Southern Jews (largely Sephardim or German) were viewed with suspicion by Grant.
You are arguing that the Judaizing Old Testament obsession and Messianism of Low Church Protestants is due largely to an influence of Sephardim in the Netherlands?
That’s a stretch. Prove it. Cite studies or historians arguing for this.
Agree. BTW, you don’t “invite” people to your funeral, except in the case of John McCain, who DISinvited Donald Trump and Sarah Palin. He had this no-expense-spared extravaganza planned out like a regular Bridezilla, and it’s purpose was to celebrate himself and get back at a few enemies.
The Dutch Army is THAT way, faggot.
“ no those are California girls”
The only place I’ve seen blondes is the Malibu playground where pretty blonde moms bring their pretty blonde toddlers to play.Replies: @Neoconned, @Sarah Toga
First – it is good to know those blondes of child bearing age found mating partners with blond DNA. Not so easy to put that combination together these days.
Second, since blonde/blond is a recessive trait (I am one, at least prior to going gray, and I have two blonde daughters), perhaps we should put us on an Endangered Species List. Maybe create our own ethnic or racial category, since we are few in absolute numbers and our percentage of population, both national and global, is dropping fast.
Pale blond hair is pretty rare and special though. It looks really great on people with tanned skin, like the surfer look. But bad on people with gingery complexions- just albino-ish. But less than 10 percent of even the adult white Northern Euro population has that hair color. Probably less than 5 percent among women.
Trump, doing the opposite it the ultimate in 'bad whites" because he's not part of the Death Cult that McCain so happily embraced and what we call the Left/multikult/Po-Mo/Globalist movement.Replies: @Sarah Toga
Spot on comment. Senator McNasty not only blood-lusted to send White American boys to die in pointless wars, he traveled to Ukraine and other hot spots to stir up war. Which would have, again, been Whites killing Whites.
At first glance I thought you wrote:
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD LIEBERMAN BE PUT IN TRUMP’S CASKET.
Better check my eyeglass prescription….
Great comment. I’d hit agree but I don’t ever click “remember my information.” Someone should write a book about this subject.
Another excellent article by Johnstone.
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2018/09/02/stop-humanizing-war-criminals/
Ill omen on the statue purge
https://twitter.com/KevinLevin/status/1035636279982149633
The far-left receives a sort of psycho-sexual glee out of destroying the statues.
Despite the public being polled as being against removal, any criminal charges against vigilantes are thrown out by the judge, jury nullification is also possible.
Given that the Democrats no longer need the vote of the Southern working class whites, there is no defense of the Confederates as proto-socialist "Southern Agrarians", thus any apologism for the Confederates is seen by the cultural elite as indistinguishable from Nazi Germany. (The author is a leftist professor, but then again you can count the number of right-wing professors with two hands)
The only thing that can feasibly stop the tide of removal is "exemplary sentencing", extralegal violence has always backfired.
Recall the fearstorm whipped up by the ADL early last year about a Jewish cemetery being vandalized that was later found to be subsidence, we don't gain anything by knocking down one of theirs.
https://twitter.com/TheHempiricist/status/1035649469730058241
Fundamentally we cannot live in the same society as these people.Replies: @Harry Baldwin
Weird to call that statue “vandalized.” It’s been destroyed.
Some people can be trusted to take part in politics and some people can't. The New York Times will let you know who's qualified to engage in self-government and who's not. Apparently the people of Chemnitz are not; they're too blinded by ancestral passions. Let's face it, the difference between "Chemnitz" and "Auschwitz" is only a few letters.
https://twitter.com/juliaioffe/status/1035646059073155072
https://twitter.com/Holbornlolz/status/1035976453454622720Replies: @Cagey Beast, @kaganovitch
Some people can be trusted to take part in politics and some people can’t. The New York Times will let you know who’s qualified to engage in self-government and who’s not. Apparently the people of Chemnitz are not; they’re too blinded by ancestral passions. Let’s face it, the difference between “Chemnitz” and “Auschwitz” is only a few letters.
Back in East Germany days, Chemnitz was called Karl Marx Stadt. I’ll bet the Grey Hag could have gotten on board with that.
Triggered much??
Second, since blonde/blond is a recessive trait (I am one, at least prior to going gray, and I have two blonde daughters), perhaps we should put us on an Endangered Species List. Maybe create our own ethnic or racial category, since we are few in absolute numbers and our percentage of population, both national and global, is dropping fast.Replies: @S. Anonyia
Sarah blondism still pops up as far away as Tajikistan. So lots of people have the genes. Plenty of brunettes have blond kids/grandkids. Also to most of the world light to medium brown hair (like say Elizabeth Hurley or Liam Hemsworth) is practically blond.
Pale blond hair is pretty rare and special though. It looks really great on people with tanned skin, like the surfer look. But bad on people with gingery complexions- just albino-ish. But less than 10 percent of even the adult white Northern Euro population has that hair color. Probably less than 5 percent among women.
My uncle was lucky. His co-pilot died when their plane was downed, but my uncle survived and was found by the enemy soldiers with a badly mangled leg. They amputated his leg below the knee and he spent time in a POW camp until the war ended. (He said he was treated very humanely in the camp.)
My father became a military pilot because his older brother was his hero. My point is that men of my father's generation are a different breed. They considered serving their country to be a great honor. I grew up on military bases surrounded by Vietnam War vets. Most were cut from the same cloth as my father. Very honorable men willing to risk death for their country.
Men of that generation grew up in a different world. Most can't even begin to understand what their nation has become. They instinctively support the military today because it was an honorable institution when they served. Sure there were weasels like John McCain, but they were the exception.
Although I think the leaders of our current military are largely tools of a corrupt governing elite, I keep my opinions to myself around my father out of respect to his service.
It saddens me that my father's world no longer exists.Replies: @MBlanc46
It saddens a lot of people that your father’s world no longer exists.
Think about this: Why did the Republican politicians try to do anything to block Donald Trump? He's not a conservative in all aspects but he is (was?) on the existential immigration issue. They fought against him until we was President, knowing that now they may have to pretend to work with him. For 75% of the GOP politicians, if they could switch to D right now and still get elected, they'd have no problem doing that.Replies: @Olorin
Close to my view as well, and I said something similar to a friend who was bitching about RINOs.
The problem isn’t that they are fake Rs.
The problem is that R no longer means republican, small r. Many people sense or outright realize this. What’s missing is a party that represents we small-r republicans. That articulates and is faithful to that vision of THIS republic.
Words can’t express how it sickens me any time I have to vote for a Republican, whether they are the best of all worst choices or someone I actually would like to see hired for the office in question. When I think “Republican” I think Reagan, the Bushes, McCain, and all those puppets that Big Don had to defeat to win the GOP nomination…
…at the point the party realized it would never again win an election if its real republican voters jumped ship.
“Conservatism” was hacked in the 1980s to win elections by using cable TV to drive the white working and middle class into war with itself. It doesn’t seek to “conserve” anything–not nature, not founding stock Americans, not the US’s cultural heritage.
Such an idea is, of course, *precisely* what the ascendant culture—the one inaugurated into power via Obama—disputes. They reject not only the assertion that there is a founding principle of the American regime, but even that there is anything immutable about human biology.
It’s become a cliche already that this funeral “brought us all together as Americans.” Unanswered in all of the swooning is what it is that constitutes being an American, why it’s something distinctive, why it’s worth preserving and passing on. The same people who were mourning McCain’s death today as the passing of the last good white person will shortly return to their contemptuous destruction of everything American.Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Rod1963, @ben tillman, @Bugg, @Forbes, @Olorin
I think you mean “celebrating.”
Shooting the cervid in the face ruins the head and antlers. Assuming the shot isn’t missed, which is likely because a cervid’s head moves faster than its torso and is quite narrow, nose on.
Shooting a cervid in the vitals on field requires precision and self control.
Neither should be subject to a pornographizing impulse, nor cheapened as a sacred act between a very old People and the Herd that sustains and inspires us, and helps organize our seasons.
In other words, we were not talking about the US.
Yes, of course.
Too liberal on domestic issues (abortion, guns, environment, and many more). Contrary to liberal opinion, Lieberman was not a “conservative Democrat”; he was a standard neoliberal who embraced Bush on Iraq and terrorism.
In return for her loyalty, he spent the last 10 years of his life blaming her for his defeat, directly and through flunkies like Steve Schmidt. Even at the end, he pointedly left her off the guest list to his funeral.
For all her faults, Ms. Palin is too nice to say this, so I will: McCain was a petty, vindictive SOB.Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @TTSSYF, @AndrewR, @AnotherDad, @Achmed E. Newman, @Jimi Shmendrix
I remember thinking in 2008, when he chose Palin – “Wow! He’s throwing the race on purpose.”
Has that conspiratainment theory gotten any attention?
Has that conspiratainment theory gotten any attention?Replies: @Mr. Rational
Hey, I never took Caribou Barbie seriously as a thinker, but she did okay as a governor and I did vote for the ticket.
MCain’s death has only brought the NeoCon/RINO and Leftist sectors of the Establishment together, not the people. The plebes are correctly seeing the lionization of MCcain for the anti-Trump propagandized event that it is.
I had always liked Lieberman. He should learn how to shut up.
You almost get the impression that if given the chance, McCain would have given Lenin, Stalin and Mao a run for their money on who could murder the most people as a dictator.Replies: @AndrewR, @BB753
Aviators tend to be short. Senator McCain certainly was short, in a field, namely politics, where every inch counts (no homo). To be successful in politics, 6 feet tall is the minimum. So McCain had to overcompensate by being the most belligerent, maverick, and manliest politician.
Short man syndrome. Also, daddy issues.
McCain was only great at being evil.
Hayworth was winning until McCain went to fhe Mormons on his knees.
Him supporting Flake for Kyl’s seat was part of the price he paid.