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One of the weirder ideological phenomena of the time is how liberals have become demented over hunting down and destroying anybody who mentions that the diverse tend to … litter.

I remain baffled over their motivation. Do they believe that when Amy Wax or Tucker Carlson mention Latino littering they are actually dogwhistling Nazi racial hygiene theory about Tainted Blood and at any moment the Penn Jewish law professor will start demanding the Final Solution for Hispanics?

Or is littering trivial enough and obvious enough that progressives figure if they can deplatform anybody who mentions even littering then they’ve won, permanently and ultimately, like the Party in 1984 expects to have won forever and ever when they get everybody using Newspeak?

I dunno …

For example, from Vox:

A question for conservatives: what if the left was right on race?

By “right on race,” she doesn’t mean “correct” or “scientifically accurate” or “empirically validated” on race, she means “holy:” What if the left was right all along that the right crimethinks about race? We were right that the right has impure thoughts!

On the right, race and racism, and the possibility that it’s been a big problem all along.

By Jane Coaston

… To them, I’d like to pose a question, and I pose it as someone who has worked hard to understand the conservative movement and conservatism more broadly, and do so in the most generous possible light:

What if, in truth, the conservative movement’s inability to self-police itself against racism and establish firm guardrails against racists in the movement has resulted in an American right increasingly beholden to racism and racist arguments?

And what if, in truth, it’s the left that has seen this most clearly and that has been pointing it out again and again? …

Not all racism is the racism of the men who murdered 14-year-old Emmett Till in 1955.

It’s Tuesday already and this is the first “Emmett Till” reference I’ve seen all week. Doesn’t anybody even try anymore?

Sometimes it’s the racism of middle-class white liberals who fervently oppose school desegregation efforts in major cities under the belief that the presence of black children would result in plummeting school quality. …

Take, for example, the work of my colleague Zack Beauchamp, who attended the inaugural National Conservatism conference last week. One of the speakers was University of Pennsylvania Law School professor Amy Wax, who was previously removed from teaching first-year students after claiming she had never seen a black student graduate in the top quarter of the class. (Penn Law does not publicly rank students.)

During her remarks at the conference, Wax used the subject of litter to argue for an immigration policy that would prioritize white immigrants but deprioritize nonwhite immigrants. “I think we are going to sink back significantly into Third Worldism,” she said. “We are going to go Venezuela. You can just see it happening. One of my pet peeves, one of my obsessions, is litter. If you go up to Stockbridge, Massachusetts, or Yankee territory, versus other places that are quote-unquote more diverse, you are going to see an enormous difference, I’m sorry to report.”

It’s always littering.

My new Taki’s column is about Amy Wax. And littering. And some other things.

 
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  1. VOX NEWS ALERT: 14-Year-old Emmet Till murdered.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    Oh jeez, when did this happen?! I must’ve missed it on my ticker tape.

    I’m curious how many people from Vox, Slate, etc, read iSteve. It’s like “yeah we do that, I wonder how far I could push this Till story until the editor tells me to stuff it.”

    , @Bard of Bumperstickers
    Dear iSteve, as long as I'm on the grammar case elsewhere ("College Students Getting Dumber") in your blog today, the first line of this column has the word "phenomenon" in place of "phenomena". No offense would be taken, were you to correct it and then removed this post.
    , @JMcG
    At least nobody mentions Trayvon anymore. I wonder why that is?
  2. “Self-police itself” – they’re not sending their best.

    Oh well. More late breaking “Emmett Till” news…

  3. A question for conservatives: what if the left was right on race?

    By Jane Coaston

    A qutestion for Jane Coaston: what if the (real) right was/is right on race? Namely that it is real, that there are significant racial differences, and that these differences have conesquences?

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
    How dare you defend James Watson!
    What would a Nobel Prize winning molecular biologist, geneticist, and zoologist know about race?
  4. Um, Steve? It’s just about clamping down on any noticing of inconvenient Hate Facts — or anything that might lead to noticing of Hate Facts.

    It’s all very much similar to a stereotype of medieval Catholics from some communist propaganda film promoting sex: “Hey, they didn’t just demand women dress modestly, they banished all pictures of females or even mentioning the word “woman” from their presence so that they might not be led to thinking about women and therefore sex. Weren’t they such repressed dolts guys, amirite?” *cue canned clapter*

    Commies always project.

  5. liberals have become demented over hunting down and destroying anybody who mentions…

    …anything they don’t like. It’s simply how they are, now that they have the whip hand.

    “I’d like to pose a question, and I pose it as someone who has worked hard to understand the conservative movement and conservatism more broadly, and do so in the most generous possible light”

    This is, in fact, what they tell themselves. Nothing could be further from the truth, and I say this as someone who is by no means a conservative, except perhaps culturally.

  6. I wish I had a picture from Central Park after the re-birth of Earth day back in the ’90s … it was wall to wall Libs, and it was wall to wall litter. So it isn’t just the diverse at work or play here.

    • Replies: @GermanReader2

    I wish I had a picture from Central Park after the re-birth of Earth day back in the ’90s … it was wall to wall Libs, and it was wall to wall litter. So it isn’t just the diverse at work or play here.
     
    Jonathan Haidt once said, that one could ascertain the political orientation of a college department (most are one the left spectrum, but there are big differences between for instance mathematics and gender studies) by two things: dirt/litter and punctuality.
    More conservative departments were a lot cleaner and the meetings started on time.

    From my own contact with liberals and experiences of my acquaintances, I can confirm this.
  7. Off Topic: Now, here’s a non-hoax “go back to your own country” story from a few days ago – and with incriminating video! I came across this story accidentally and still can’t quite figure out why the national media isn’t making it into a big story. Hmm.

    http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/video-shows-tim-hortons-employee-telling-muslim-couple-go-back-to-your-country-

  8. What the left was wrong about race? What if every bit of their ideology was founded on lies? What if they secretly know that they are using newspeak because they know they can’t discuss real human population differences that are biological?

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  9. To avoid a Crown Heights style confrontation between littering Mexicans and Environmentalists.

  10. Sometimes it’s the racism of middle-class white liberals who fervently oppose school desegregation efforts in major cities under the belief that the presence of black children would result in plummeting school quality.

    It’s not a belief, ma’am. It’s an empirical fact.

    Nowhere do I see Ms. Coaston mention “truth.” I don’t think she cares about truth.

    She and her kind care only about ideological purity, by denying this reality and willing into existence a new reality that exists only in the mind. Inconvenient facts on the ground are to be denied, willed into non-existence. Anyone who mentions them branded a heretic raaacccisst.

    It is all very 1984-like:

    We control matter because we control the mind. Reality is inside the skull. You will learn by degrees, Winston. There is nothing that we could not do. Invisibility, levitation—anything. I could float off this floor like a soap bubble if I wish to. I do not wish to, because the Party does not wish it. You must get rid of those nineteenth-century ideas about the laws of Nature. We make the laws of Nature.

    Thought Police chief O’Brian while torturing protagonist Winston Smith.

    The parallels with today are uncanny. Orwell understood the lefty mind.

  11. @Buzz Mohawk
    VOX NEWS ALERT: 14-Year-old Emmet Till murdered.

    Oh jeez, when did this happen?! I must’ve missed it on my ticker tape.

    I’m curious how many people from Vox, Slate, etc, read iSteve. It’s like “yeah we do that, I wonder how far I could push this Till story until the editor tells me to stuff it.”

  12. anon[974] • Disclaimer says:

    To answer your question, littering is something that is obvious and, therefore, undeniable. You can say race doesn’t exist because it is a somewhat esoteric subject for the masses, but it’s very much harder to say the trash on the sidewalk you passed on your way to the gym doesn’t. The issue is therefore threatening to sequestered white Leftists. The ones that control the megaphone tend to live in major metropolitan areas, especially media-concentrated areas like LA and NY, where Hispanics are a growing share of the population. Littering probably hits a nerve with them because, from what I’ve seen, they feel threatened by their growing minority status and they don’t like being reminded of it: they hang out with fellow white leftists in political groups minorities don’t like to belong to (antifa), go to strange events that only nerdy, upstanding minorities that remind them of themselves like to go to (comic cons), do things whites like to do and minorities don’t (yoga), send their kids to private schools where there are very few Hispanics or blacks or poor whites, etc etc etc. Pointing out the obvious in front of them (literal trash in front of them) causes them to go into a tizzy because they are so strung out emotionally by all the diversity they try so hard to avoid or explain away. And you are making it impossible for them to ignore the issue by pointing out that which they cannot ignore: trash on the sidewalk.

    PS. Vox is subsidized by big tech. YouTube paid them $20 million to make propa – “educational” videos. It’s all a racket. Do they pay Breitbart to make similar educational videos?

  13. to self-police itself against racism and establish firm guardrails against racists

    They make totalitarian censorship sound so reasonable.
    Guardrails are a great thing to have on the highway of life. It’s a safety thing.
    Thinking not allowed.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    establish firm guardrails against racists
     
    Are the guardrails supposed to keep the racists on the road, so that they can safely make it to their racist destination?

    Or, perhaps the racists are in off-road vehicles and the guardrails are supposed to keep them from getting on the road with normal drivers.

    Or maybe everything off the road is racist, and the guardrails are supposed to keep regular motorists from crashing into all that racism.

    It's all very confusing. I think Vox needs to work on its metaphors.
  14. The obvious response to the Vox journalist is to turn around the question: what if race realism is right about race?

    The left’s position on race is that every inequality that disadvantages minorities is the fault of white racism. Some of these inequalities are about matters of life and death, such as police shootings.

    If the left is wrong, it means they are engaging in blood libel against white people.

    If that were ever generally realized, it would be a huge permanent blow against a movement that is supposedly based on equality.

    And this is why the left can never compromise on the race issue. They can’t say “Oops, maybe we did promote blood libel against whites all along. Sorry about that.” It’s the hill they will die on.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Turning the question around is impossible as would be pure Badthink. Anyone with adequately equipped self-censorship knows THAT.

    I think your mental guardrails need to be improved.
    , @Kronos
    “Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.”

    ― Eric Hoffer, The Temper of Our Time

    Can you guess which stage the nurture-obsessed left is in? Eventually, they’ll burn up and be replaced with a new left that places a high regard in gene enhancement. When IQ is 80% genetic, you just can’t win in the end with their failed ideas/beliefs.
    , @Anonymous

    The obvious response to the Vox journalist is to turn around the question: what if race realism is right about race?
     
    The obvious response to the Vox journalist, who is an ardent Zionist, is, if Jews are allowed to discriminate in their immigration policies, why aren't Whites?
  15. Anonymous[918] • Disclaimer says:

    The commissars are nuts about the litter diversity brings because they know SWPL culture prioritizes aesthetics. Appearances matter.

    Noticing the litter begets noticing the differences in cultures which begets noticing the behavioral differences between races and ethnicities.

    Lots of white liberals evacuated Miami 1975-2000 just on the litter issue! Cubans litter as if they’re getting paid to do it.

    (Dear mods: i’m going back to anon screen name).

  16. I remain baffled over their motivation.

    Really? Cos it seems pretty obvious to me. If you allow an ethno-racial group to be criticized for one thing, then you open the door to all ethno-racial groups being criticized for all sorts of things. In other words, you open the door to racism. So you have to keep the door firmly shut to singling out ethno-racial groups for criticism.

    (Unless that ethno-racial group is white people. Then you can feel free to criticize away. Even just make stuff up. As long as your heart is in the right place – ie aligned with The Narrative – accuracy isn’t particularly important.)

    • Replies: @Moses

    If you allow an ethno-racial group to be criticized for one thing, then you open the door to all ethno-racial groups being criticized for all sorts of things.
     
    Yes. That's Badthink. Badthinkers must be punished.

    Don't be a Badthinker.
    , @Jason Calley
    Hey silviosilver! You make a good point. I recently saw a survey (sorry but I cannot link and am working from memory) where more than 30% of surveyed Democrats said that any argument or opposition toward black politicians is racism. The flaw in that opinion (I almost said "in that reasoning" but the fact is, "reason" has nothing to do with it!) is too obvious to need pointing out.

    I wish that type of ignorance were confined to the Dems, but I have seen similar ideas among Repubs who see any complaint against Israel as obvious anti-semitism.
  17. Funny, but litter didn’t come up at all in the Jussie Smollett case, did it?

  18. Fair warning: the GOP establishment wants to lose on bussing. They want to be loud on it, to rile the base, but losing will destroy public education. (And torpedo the white birth rates, but don’t mention that.)


  19. For Jane Coaston, every day is a bad hair day.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    A Miiiiiiiiccccchhhhigan girl. Why am I not suprised?
    , @Clyde
    She has that Kryptonite hair look. Kryptonite that will make any sane hetero man give her a wide berth. Her intentionally unruly mass of hair is actually a broadcasting antennae transmitting -- "Dudes back off". This is her conscious or subconscious intention or she may be lesbian anyway. Next step is to color it purple.
  20. As for the Jane Coaston article, I agree with her that “real conservatism” is indeed about race. And rightly so.

    In the past, it seemed to make sense to publicly deny this. I’m not sure how much good that really did. After all, Republican election victories never resulted in a single pro-white political gain.

    Maybe it’s just better to be open about it: of course conservatism is “about race”; how could it not be? (Sure, conservatism is about other things too, but it can’t pretend that race doesn’t matter.)

    • Replies: @Mike_from_SGV
    Maybe embrace the term "racist" like the LGB s embraced "queer" and the word loses its shock value.
  21. Anonymous[156] • Disclaimer says:

    I remain baffled over their motivation.

    It’s pretty simple, Steve. White identity must be prevented at all costs. You get White identity when Whites are allowed to form ingroup-outgroup thoughts. The littering issue would be an example of such thoughts.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @Neuday
    We're missing an opportunity! Trump should start an AmeriCorps, hiring urban yoots to pick-up litter. Hire blacks and browns to pick up their own litter.

    Or maybe President Sanders can force fast-food franchises to charge a $1 deposit on every bag, redeemable at the recycling center or McDonald's. Do the same for diapers, redeemable at the DMV. Seeing video of a long line of chubby mamasitas with bags of used diapers at a DMV staffed with fat black women is enough to make a feather-Indian shed a tear of joy, or me of laughter.
  22. anon[307] • Disclaimer says:

    “As for the Jane Coaston article, I agree with her that “real conservatism” is indeed about race. And rightly so”

    So is modern leftism, if we are being honest. The number of dog whistles in that last debate was obscene; there was essentially no talk of anything concerning normal whites specifically as a demographic group that wasn’t also negative, but there was plenty of pandering to POC, LGBTQ, and illegal aliens. The democrats are clearly of a coalition of POC and fringe groups united by mutual loathing of whites. They stoke that hatred continually: rushing to embrace race hoaxes; endorsing various blood libels in the face of massive counter evidence (institutional racism); committing various acts to rile up POC against imagined white racism: California and NY’s hair discrimination law, attacking Chick-fil-a for the crime of some guy owning stock in the company, etc. – all dog whistling against normal whites, etc etc etc.

  23. @Drake
    The obvious response to the Vox journalist is to turn around the question: what if race realism is right about race?

    The left's position on race is that every inequality that disadvantages minorities is the fault of white racism. Some of these inequalities are about matters of life and death, such as police shootings.

    If the left is wrong, it means they are engaging in blood libel against white people.

    If that were ever generally realized, it would be a huge permanent blow against a movement that is supposedly based on equality.

    And this is why the left can never compromise on the race issue. They can't say "Oops, maybe we did promote blood libel against whites all along. Sorry about that." It's the hill they will die on.

    Turning the question around is impossible as would be pure Badthink. Anyone with adequately equipped self-censorship knows THAT.

    I think your mental guardrails need to be improved.

    • LOL: Moses
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    Guardrails is good. We need to remember that one.
  24. “Some people have a deep, abiding respect for the natural beauty that was once this country. And some people don’t.”

    This anti-littering ad from the 1970’s is worthy of Don Draper. Old Chief Iron Sides Cody may have technically been an Italian-American actor, but the he was pretty damn convincing. Look at all that great industry we once had in this nation.

    Could this public service piece work today with an REI clad, older, short haired, reserved, white lesbian woman crying over the trash strewn about O’Melveny Park in Grenada Hills? One could dream…

    The last time I was in Yosemite, there were a number of yoga pantsed (admittedly looking good) Instagram ladies who were posing with their toned asses prone at various scenic points along the Tioga Road, especially at Olmstead Point.

    Perhaps the mental pollution is worse than the physical one.

    • Replies: @Rapparee

    Old Chief Iron Sides Cody may have technically been an Italian-American actor, but the he was pretty damn convincing. Look at all that great industry we once had in this nation.
     
    The 1999 live-action Dudley Do-Right movie had a running gag which, as far as I can tell, was a winking reference to Iron Eyes Cody- the entire Indian tribe in the movie, the "Canarsie Kumquats", are very obviously NYC Italian-Americans running a scammy, kitschy tourist trap. (Their chief was played by Alex Rocco). The fact that I seem to be the only person on Earth who got the joke probably explains a lot about the reception that movie got from both audiences and critics.
  25. @JimB
    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/HgYntkhPzcqVNmPg9CyUWqBemUk=/512x512/cdn.vox-cdn.com/author_profile_images/14429/16939244_10108005395579903_4715796285194187244_n.0.jpg

    For Jane Coaston, every day is a bad hair day.

    A Miiiiiiiiccccchhhhigan girl. Why am I not suprised?

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    As a formerly proud alum, I can tell you Meee-chigan has been all about the Coudenhove-Kalergi poster children well-before the current year.
    , @JimB
    You mean, an affirmative action grrrl, don’t you?
  26. Well, I have to admit, getting rid of private schools would force a lot of people to publicly admit reality.

  27. @El Dato
    Turning the question around is impossible as would be pure Badthink. Anyone with adequately equipped self-censorship knows THAT.

    I think your mental guardrails need to be improved.

    Guardrails is good. We need to remember that one.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    Guardrails with self-driving vehicles.

    They will kill us--for our own good!
  28. anon[192] • Disclaimer says:

    “I’m curious how many people from Vox, Slate, etc, read iSteve.”

    You might be surprised how many left-wingers hang around certain sites, then get wrapped up in guilt and self-loathing for reading things they subconsciously agree with. For example, I’m fairly certain Andrew Anglin’s The Daily Stormer caused both the Betsy Ross flag controversy and numerous other past controversies* such as the okay symbol supposedly being some kind of super duper undercover not-see code symbol. His website prominently featured the Betsy Ross flag with a picture of George Washington just before the controversy broke – same with the okay symbol and several other controversies. They took that and blew it up after Kapernick complained because they saw it there first. I wouldn’t be surprised if Kapernick got the idea from that site himself or from one of his entourage. It’s clear to me that some people at Vox, Huffington Post, WaPo, etc. are stalking that site and hysterically reporting his obvious (albeit racist) satire as something real because they either are so extreme in their mindsets that they can’t tell the difference between reality and fantasy or they feel guilty about agreeing with what they read. This is why guys like Tucker Carlson were so shocked that anyone would be offended over the Ross flag: unlike the guys at Vox/Slate/Huffpo, he doesn’t obsessively stalk that website, agree with some of what he sees, then feel guilty about it and try to purge the self-loathing with bizarre hate conspiracies.

    Aside: the Left did that to themselves. They banned edgy comedy, so that niche was taken up by guys like Anglin; there is a market for that stuff and they gave it up only for it to be monopolized by someone else. They traded Sarah Silverman (back before she became a cuck) and George Carlin for Andrew Anglin. Losers. And they made the guy even more risque, and therefore appealing, by censoring him. He claims to be the most censored website in American history, and he’s right about that. Kids want to see what all the controversy is about, so they make their way to it. There is a lesson in that. Perhaps being less PC in the future might be a somewhat better strategy.

    *Of course, you’ll never hear about that because that would require self-reflection and perhaps admitting you were wrong or not as smart as you think you are. The Left can’t bring itself to admit that because the smug SJW whites who run that part of the political spectrum are quite self-assured and confident they are better than their opposition. Getting horrendously trolled by a guy who runs a low-brow racist website is something unfathomable to these high-brow types, so they keep falling for the trap. List of things I think he may have caused, or greatly contributed to, as a result of the left-wing media stalking his website: Betsy Ross flag scandal, NPC controversy, okay symbol controversy (reported on MSNBC), various other meme controversies (kek, pepe – neither are racist but since Anglin used them, his left-wing stalkers reported his obvious trolling of them as fact), media reporting on Charlottesvile.

  29. Beholden to racism? I don’t even know how to interpret that. Did she perhaps mean enthralled?

  30. @Redneck farmer
    A Miiiiiiiiccccchhhhigan girl. Why am I not suprised?

    As a formerly proud alum, I can tell you Meee-chigan has been all about the Coudenhove-Kalergi poster children well-before the current year.

  31. TWGH is in the Third World as he writes this, and he can confirm there is trash everywhere. Even in the nice neighborhoods with villas and government buildings.

    It’s really pathetic how liberals suffer under the delusion that the Third World is filled with ecologically sensitive vibrants living in close harmony with Nature as stewards of the land.

    I laughed at the recent trend of using Morocco as a location for some major Hollyweird films. For example, I liked how they tried to shoot the exterior daytime train images in the 007 film Spectre to conceal all the trash around the tracks.

    • Replies: @Moses

    It’s really pathetic how liberals suffer under the delusion that the Third World is filled with ecologically sensitive vibrants living in close harmony with Nature as stewards of the land.
     
    Yeah.

    Spend some time in the 3rd world (I have) and you'll be shocked at the utter disregard for the environment or humane animal treatment. Trash everywhere. They don't mind it either.

    Ecologically sensitive vibrants living in close harmony with Nature they ain't.

    [Same with noise. White people hate noise. 3rd worlders like it -- the more, the better.]
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    It's the same way they have been for a long time with the American Indians, TWGH. I don't think that crying guy being an Indian was necessarily all that realistic. A realistic commercial with a guy upset about all the litter by the roadside would show a middle-aged white guy in an orange jumpsuit, who had to work with a bunch of illiterate Mexicans by the interstate all afternoon out in the heat due to that unfortunate 2nd DUI.

    Lefties think of the old "noble savage" Indians as having been stewards of the environment, when, with 5 million or so on this whole huge continent, Mother Earth could do a damn good job of cleaning up after them with no help. With personal experience involved (albeit 1 datapoint), Peak Stupidity long ago asked "Are American Indians Slobs?"
  32. Anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:

    All this talk about the state enforced population transfers of whites – that is with the explicit goal of using the whites as fodder and fertilizer to feed the favored ‘minorities’ – reminds me somewhat of the ancient myth of St. George and the Dragon, the Dragon needing his daily quota of sacrificial virgins to devour.

  33. @anon

    to self-police itself against racism and establish firm guardrails against racists
     
    They make totalitarian censorship sound so reasonable.
    Guardrails are a great thing to have on the highway of life. It's a safety thing.
    Thinking not allowed.

    establish firm guardrails against racists

    Are the guardrails supposed to keep the racists on the road, so that they can safely make it to their racist destination?

    Or, perhaps the racists are in off-road vehicles and the guardrails are supposed to keep them from getting on the road with normal drivers.

    Or maybe everything off the road is racist, and the guardrails are supposed to keep regular motorists from crashing into all that racism.

    It’s all very confusing. I think Vox needs to work on its metaphors.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Come to think of it, maybe it's not a metaphor at all. The guardrails must be put up to protect the Mexicans from the country lock-up as they collect all the litter off the shoulder of the highway up in the Mole-ass Pass (up near 10,000 ft, on the road from Silverton to Durango). It's hairy, man, and your car will lose power just from the altitude.. if it's carbureted. I mean "carbureted" as a metaphor, for like, .... not fuel injected, or something ....
  34. @Drake
    The obvious response to the Vox journalist is to turn around the question: what if race realism is right about race?

    The left's position on race is that every inequality that disadvantages minorities is the fault of white racism. Some of these inequalities are about matters of life and death, such as police shootings.

    If the left is wrong, it means they are engaging in blood libel against white people.

    If that were ever generally realized, it would be a huge permanent blow against a movement that is supposedly based on equality.

    And this is why the left can never compromise on the race issue. They can't say "Oops, maybe we did promote blood libel against whites all along. Sorry about that." It's the hill they will die on.

    “Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.”

    ― Eric Hoffer, The Temper of Our Time

    Can you guess which stage the nurture-obsessed left is in? Eventually, they’ll burn up and be replaced with a new left that places a high regard in gene enhancement. When IQ is 80% genetic, you just can’t win in the end with their failed ideas/beliefs.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    That would be fun.

    The left back in the eliminate & enhance business, with smashingly nice uniforms for antifa and the higher educaschion representatives (not too nice, a bit maoist-delapidated because otherwise you would be ... you know)
    , @BengaliCanadianDude

    When IQ is 80% genetic
     
    Isn't it between 60 and 70? Havent seen that high of an estimate before
  35. I pose it as someone who has worked hard to understand the conservative movement and conservatism more broadly, and do so in the most generous possible light

    My Liemeter just pinged loudly. Yep, 7.1 (logarithmic scale)

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    My gaydar clicked a few times, too, BTW. Could have been too close to the cat ...
  36. @silviosilver

    I remain baffled over their motivation.
     
    Really? Cos it seems pretty obvious to me. If you allow an ethno-racial group to be criticized for one thing, then you open the door to all ethno-racial groups being criticized for all sorts of things. In other words, you open the door to racism. So you have to keep the door firmly shut to singling out ethno-racial groups for criticism.

    (Unless that ethno-racial group is white people. Then you can feel free to criticize away. Even just make stuff up. As long as your heart is in the right place - ie aligned with The Narrative - accuracy isn't particularly important.)

    If you allow an ethno-racial group to be criticized for one thing, then you open the door to all ethno-racial groups being criticized for all sorts of things.

    Yes. That’s Badthink. Badthinkers must be punished.

    Don’t be a Badthinker.

  37. It’s Tuesday already and this is the first “Emmett Till” reference I’ve seen all week.

    Don’t we need a term like “Reductio ad Tillum” like we have “Reductio ad Hitlerum”? And something like the corollary to Godwin’s Law that states that whoever brings up Emmett Till first loses the argument?

    The latter won’t catch on because only one side ever brings up Till and they bring him up immediately.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    The standard should be the distance removed from the topic wheelhouse (ie, an anti-Keynesian philo-Semitic pacifist being compared to Hitler is egregious). I cannot imagine a non-egregious Till comparison in the current year.
  38. @The Wild Geese Howard
    TWGH is in the Third World as he writes this, and he can confirm there is trash everywhere. Even in the nice neighborhoods with villas and government buildings.

    It's really pathetic how liberals suffer under the delusion that the Third World is filled with ecologically sensitive vibrants living in close harmony with Nature as stewards of the land.

    I laughed at the recent trend of using Morocco as a location for some major Hollyweird films. For example, I liked how they tried to shoot the exterior daytime train images in the 007 film Spectre to conceal all the trash around the tracks.

    It’s really pathetic how liberals suffer under the delusion that the Third World is filled with ecologically sensitive vibrants living in close harmony with Nature as stewards of the land.

    Yeah.

    Spend some time in the 3rd world (I have) and you’ll be shocked at the utter disregard for the environment or humane animal treatment. Trash everywhere. They don’t mind it either.

    Ecologically sensitive vibrants living in close harmony with Nature they ain’t.

    [Same with noise. White people hate noise. 3rd worlders like it — the more, the better.]

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    To be fair:

    I used to teach at a community college with a very large number of Latino immigrants.

    I once taught a class on environmental science for non-science majors. Part of the final was each student talking to me 1 on 1 and describing the environmental situation of the land of their birth. (Not the US for any of the students).

    One of the most poignant discussions was with a young lady from South America (I forget which country) who had a hard time speaking English well enough to describe the severe environmental degradation in “my cooooun-try”. She was so passionately upset that she forced herself to describe what was going on. Terrible stuff. The government didn’t care about the common people and let the international corporations completely rape the land.

    When that is going on around you, it is hard to develop a culture of preserving the environment.
    , @obwandiyag
    You idiot. The US and all the technology you so adore and you say "improves" lives it doesn't dump all that litter there. Common people HAVE to litter. Everything comes in packaging nowadays. What are you supposed to do with it? Oh, I get it. Put it in the proper receptacle and have the garbage man take it away. And then it's GONE!

    You imbecile. There are so many things wrong with you it would take an infinity of time to stop puking to tell you what they all are.
  39. @Buzz Mohawk
    VOX NEWS ALERT: 14-Year-old Emmet Till murdered.

    Dear iSteve, as long as I’m on the grammar case elsewhere (“College Students Getting Dumber”) in your blog today, the first line of this column has the word “phenomenon” in place of “phenomena”. No offense would be taken, were you to correct it and then removed this post.

    • Replies: @Charon
    While we're at it, removed in your last sentence should probably be remove.
  40. Any chance that in the idealized past you remember there appeared to be less litter because there were fewer people in CA, they had fewer children, and more people were paid to pick up the trash? California is currently have a financial crisis, so I would assume that less money is being paid to pick trash out of bushes. The financial crisis is due to the inability of CA to pay massive old age benefits to mostly white people. Before the GWOT the huge pension increases were payable, but with the resources mostly squandered during the previous 2 decades of war there isn’t much left for trash removal. So instead of blaming others maybe aging white people should walk back some of the promises made to aging white people who complain about trash removal from isolated valleys.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    In 1977, Mexicans hadn't discovered Malibu Creek or Stoney Point in large numbers. Now they have.
    , @Jack D

    Before the GWOT the huge pension increases were payable, but with the resources mostly squandered during the previous 2 decades of war there isn’t much left for trash removal.
     
    You are trying to link two things that have nothing to do with each other. Trash removal is paid for at the state and local level. The GWOT was paid for mostly by borrowing at the Federal level. Had there been no GWOT, the pension and trash situation in California would be exactly the same.

    Now what is true is that as more and more of state and local budgets go to paying pensions, they have less and less money to actually provide services.

    But, the amount of litter that you see on the side of the road is a function of BOTH the rate of littering multiplied by the number of potential litterers and the rate of litter removal multiplied by the number of people doing litter removal. So all 4 factors are in play. If you not only increase the population but replace the previous group by a new group that has a higher rate of littering, the amount of litter that you see on the ground is going to go up regardless of whether the other factors are kept constant. You can infer the rate of littering of different groups by looking at the littering situation in their country of origin.
    , @Jason Calley
    Most large cities may pick up trash along major roads and highways, but few send teams through residential neighborhoods picking up trash. Homeowners are responsible for keeping their own neighborhoods clean (or not.) Drive through a half dozen majority white neighborhoods and see how much trash there is along the gutters, yards and local businesses. Do the same in a half dozen mostly minority neighborhoods.

    What do you notice?
    , @anonymous
    @George

    Nope, littering is mainly a minority thing.

    https://www.dailynews.com/2014/11/06/los-angeles-to-crack-down-on-illegal-dumping-on-streets-alleys/

    https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2019/06/03/mayor-eric-garcetti-blames-la-trash-problem-on-illegal-dumping-not-homeless-community/

    It's not whites trying to save a buck by illegally dumping their business' trash. You can also read Victor Davis Hanson's Mexifornia articles to see how illegals trashed his area.
    , @Alden
    Trash pick up is city and county responsibility, not state. Parks and streets is a big affirmative action alternative to welfare department. Plenty of workers. They clean the parks every morning. By evening, especially Saturday and Sunday, every trash can and dumpster is full again.
  41. @George
    Any chance that in the idealized past you remember there appeared to be less litter because there were fewer people in CA, they had fewer children, and more people were paid to pick up the trash? California is currently have a financial crisis, so I would assume that less money is being paid to pick trash out of bushes. The financial crisis is due to the inability of CA to pay massive old age benefits to mostly white people. Before the GWOT the huge pension increases were payable, but with the resources mostly squandered during the previous 2 decades of war there isn't much left for trash removal. So instead of blaming others maybe aging white people should walk back some of the promises made to aging white people who complain about trash removal from isolated valleys.

    In 1977, Mexicans hadn’t discovered Malibu Creek or Stoney Point in large numbers. Now they have.

  42. Even Don Lemon once noted on his show the shame he feels traversing NYC and knowing when he’s in a black neighborhood simply by the amount of litter and trash on the street.

    In DC this is certainly true. I can’t remember how many times I have seen the window of a car in traffic roll down and empty paper bags and cups be ejected without a second thought, or in my former neighborhood how there would be litter all over the place with a nearly empty trashcan nearby.

  43. Stoney Point in Chatsworth (the historic origin of California rock climbing)

    Good to know that Chatsworth has something going for it other than Larry Niven and porn!

  44. @Bard of Bumperstickers
    Dear iSteve, as long as I'm on the grammar case elsewhere ("College Students Getting Dumber") in your blog today, the first line of this column has the word "phenomenon" in place of "phenomena". No offense would be taken, were you to correct it and then removed this post.

    While we’re at it, removed in your last sentence should probably be remove.

    • Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers
    I struggled with that one. Still not sure. I lean towards agreeing with you.
  45. @The Alarmist
    I wish I had a picture from Central Park after the re-birth of Earth day back in the '90s ... it was wall to wall Libs, and it was wall to wall litter. So it isn't just the diverse at work or play here.

    I wish I had a picture from Central Park after the re-birth of Earth day back in the ’90s … it was wall to wall Libs, and it was wall to wall litter. So it isn’t just the diverse at work or play here.

    Jonathan Haidt once said, that one could ascertain the political orientation of a college department (most are one the left spectrum, but there are big differences between for instance mathematics and gender studies) by two things: dirt/litter and punctuality.
    More conservative departments were a lot cleaner and the meetings started on time.

    From my own contact with liberals and experiences of my acquaintances, I can confirm this.

  46. @Buzz Mohawk
    VOX NEWS ALERT: 14-Year-old Emmet Till murdered.

    At least nobody mentions Trayvon anymore. I wonder why that is?

  47. Jane Coaston is married to a person of pallor from New Zealand.

    https://everipedia.org/wiki/lang_en/jane-coaston/

    Jane Coaston pictured with her wife Belinda O’Donnell

    https://www.gocrimson.com/sports/wcrew-hw/2008-09/bios/o-donnell_belinda?view=bio

    • Replies: @El Dato
    I'm happy about the marriage ... but now what??

    "This is a gay bar. Happy pride. Cash only."
     
    "Captain, My tricorder indicates low levels of trust in the area!"
    , @Known Fact
    So she chucks organic kale wrappers and other trash all over the house and the white chick has to pick it all up without saying anything
  48. @Anonymous

    I remain baffled over their motivation.
     
    It's pretty simple, Steve. White identity must be prevented at all costs. You get White identity when Whites are allowed to form ingroup-outgroup thoughts. The littering issue would be an example of such thoughts.

    We’re missing an opportunity! Trump should start an AmeriCorps, hiring urban yoots to pick-up litter. Hire blacks and browns to pick up their own litter.

    Or maybe President Sanders can force fast-food franchises to charge a $1 deposit on every bag, redeemable at the recycling center or McDonald’s. Do the same for diapers, redeemable at the DMV. Seeing video of a long line of chubby mamasitas with bags of used diapers at a DMV staffed with fat black women is enough to make a feather-Indian shed a tear of joy, or me of laughter.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna

    Hire blacks and browns to pick up their own litter.
     
    Not sure there's enough money in the known universe to make that happen.
  49. @JimB
    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/HgYntkhPzcqVNmPg9CyUWqBemUk=/512x512/cdn.vox-cdn.com/author_profile_images/14429/16939244_10108005395579903_4715796285194187244_n.0.jpg

    For Jane Coaston, every day is a bad hair day.

    She has that Kryptonite hair look. Kryptonite that will make any sane hetero man give her a wide berth. Her intentionally unruly mass of hair is actually a broadcasting antennae transmitting — “Dudes back off”. This is her conscious or subconscious intention or she may be lesbian anyway. Next step is to color it purple.

    • Replies: @JimB

    She has that Kryptonite hair look.
     
    She has the Nikola Tesla hair look, if you ask me.
    , @MEH 0910

    or she may be lesbian anyway
     
    https://thumbs.gfycat.com/UnlawfulRequiredGoa-size_restricted.gif
    , @Mike_from_SGV
    In my sixth decade it finally dawned on me that some women allow themselves to look ugly and dykey because they positively _want_ to repel men. Oh, duh!
  50. @George
    Any chance that in the idealized past you remember there appeared to be less litter because there were fewer people in CA, they had fewer children, and more people were paid to pick up the trash? California is currently have a financial crisis, so I would assume that less money is being paid to pick trash out of bushes. The financial crisis is due to the inability of CA to pay massive old age benefits to mostly white people. Before the GWOT the huge pension increases were payable, but with the resources mostly squandered during the previous 2 decades of war there isn't much left for trash removal. So instead of blaming others maybe aging white people should walk back some of the promises made to aging white people who complain about trash removal from isolated valleys.

    Before the GWOT the huge pension increases were payable, but with the resources mostly squandered during the previous 2 decades of war there isn’t much left for trash removal.

    You are trying to link two things that have nothing to do with each other. Trash removal is paid for at the state and local level. The GWOT was paid for mostly by borrowing at the Federal level. Had there been no GWOT, the pension and trash situation in California would be exactly the same.

    Now what is true is that as more and more of state and local budgets go to paying pensions, they have less and less money to actually provide services.

    But, the amount of litter that you see on the side of the road is a function of BOTH the rate of littering multiplied by the number of potential litterers and the rate of litter removal multiplied by the number of people doing litter removal. So all 4 factors are in play. If you not only increase the population but replace the previous group by a new group that has a higher rate of littering, the amount of litter that you see on the ground is going to go up regardless of whether the other factors are kept constant. You can infer the rate of littering of different groups by looking at the littering situation in their country of origin.

    • Replies: @George
    "You are trying to link two things that have nothing to do with each other"

    The massive spending on the GWOT requires less spending domestically. Freedom isn't free, and neither is trash collection, but you can pretend it is those rotten immigrants that are the reason there is some trash in the bushes.
  51. @Redneck farmer
    A Miiiiiiiiccccchhhhigan girl. Why am I not suprised?

    You mean, an affirmative action grrrl, don’t you?

  52. Don’t underestimate progressives. They have a pat answer for the mounds of garbage found in garbage neighborhoods. It’s the fault of the sanitation engineers, who don’t do as good a job there as they do in the wealthy neighborhoods. See, this is really about the disparity in public services, and not about personal behavior, you racists. Same thing with all those fires that happen in Sec. 8 buildings. It’s not that someone left a lit Newport on the sofa, it’s that the wiring is bad, because the electricians do shoddy work in supportive housing. Prove me wrong!

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    Yet there is, of course, a kernel of truth in that. Bad neighborhoods and blank-hole countries will be poorer, and poorer areas will have fewer and worse services of every sort. It takes a lot of wealth and effort to overcome the ever-present forces of chaos. Regular trash collection and functioning plumbing are also among the "nice things" that dysfunctional societies just can't have.
    , @Known Fact
    Yes, the community is filthy and litter-strewn because it is "marginalized" and "underserved." But gentrification -- e.g. jobs, stores, trees, new buildings etc -- would be even worse!
    , @Alden
    Back before the Mexicans drove the blacks out of Los Angeles, blacks claimed that evil White suburbanites drove to Watts and south central to dump their trash.
  53. @Moses

    It’s really pathetic how liberals suffer under the delusion that the Third World is filled with ecologically sensitive vibrants living in close harmony with Nature as stewards of the land.
     
    Yeah.

    Spend some time in the 3rd world (I have) and you'll be shocked at the utter disregard for the environment or humane animal treatment. Trash everywhere. They don't mind it either.

    Ecologically sensitive vibrants living in close harmony with Nature they ain't.

    [Same with noise. White people hate noise. 3rd worlders like it -- the more, the better.]

    To be fair:

    I used to teach at a community college with a very large number of Latino immigrants.

    I once taught a class on environmental science for non-science majors. Part of the final was each student talking to me 1 on 1 and describing the environmental situation of the land of their birth. (Not the US for any of the students).

    One of the most poignant discussions was with a young lady from South America (I forget which country) who had a hard time speaking English well enough to describe the severe environmental degradation in “my cooooun-try”. She was so passionately upset that she forced herself to describe what was going on. Terrible stuff. The government didn’t care about the common people and let the international corporations completely rape the land.

    When that is going on around you, it is hard to develop a culture of preserving the environment.

    • Replies: @Lurker

    The government didn’t care about the common people and let the international corporations completely rape the land.
     
    Welcome to our future!
    , @nebulafox
    But the common people don't always care, either.

    When you are talking to someone older from, say, Indonesia, asking them if they are upset about the environment having degraded so much over the last 50 years, elicits a blank stare at best. As far as they are concerned, they eat well, they can drive their kids to the next town for education, they don't have smallpox ravaging their kampungs anymore. The clean, green, agrarian pre-industrial past absolutely sucked: why would anyone want to go back? I'm not trying to slag off the importance of taking care of the environment, but I don't think it is hard to see why someone from that background would take a dim view of 1st World environmentalism if it comes into conflict with the real, tangible benefits of modern technology as they've experienced it. It has to be made clear that it doesn't have to, and comfortable Washington think tank analysts aren't always great at understanding priorities for most people.

    There's room for optimis: China is getting started on a massive effort to clean things up, and while it has a long, long way to go, it is putting in effort now. (India is another, more depressing story, from all that I've heard.) But caring about things like the environment only becomes possible when you aren't caring about more immediate things in life. Even in the developed world, I think many voters are going to get pretty hostile if they are the ones who are paying the price-what if they can't afford to drive anymore?-for the concerns of the upper-middle class and the billionaires. Especially if they see said billionaires flying around in private jets. The job of a successful ruling class presiding over a pleasant society to live in is to set an example, not hector.

    It also does not help that the same people decrying the eating and living habits of the American people are vociferously against probably the quickest and most practical way of helping the environment: nuclear power. (Among so many other things: even leaving aside the fact that we have our own oil now, wouldn't everybody like to be free from the whims of Middle Eastern theocrats?)

  54. @silviosilver

    I remain baffled over their motivation.
     
    Really? Cos it seems pretty obvious to me. If you allow an ethno-racial group to be criticized for one thing, then you open the door to all ethno-racial groups being criticized for all sorts of things. In other words, you open the door to racism. So you have to keep the door firmly shut to singling out ethno-racial groups for criticism.

    (Unless that ethno-racial group is white people. Then you can feel free to criticize away. Even just make stuff up. As long as your heart is in the right place - ie aligned with The Narrative - accuracy isn't particularly important.)

    Hey silviosilver! You make a good point. I recently saw a survey (sorry but I cannot link and am working from memory) where more than 30% of surveyed Democrats said that any argument or opposition toward black politicians is racism. The flaw in that opinion (I almost said “in that reasoning” but the fact is, “reason” has nothing to do with it!) is too obvious to need pointing out.

    I wish that type of ignorance were confined to the Dems, but I have seen similar ideas among Repubs who see any complaint against Israel as obvious anti-semitism.

  55. @Harry Baldwin
    It’s Tuesday already and this is the first “Emmett Till” reference I’ve seen all week.

    Don't we need a term like "Reductio ad Tillum" like we have "Reductio ad Hitlerum"? And something like the corollary to Godwin's Law that states that whoever brings up Emmett Till first loses the argument?

    The latter won't catch on because only one side ever brings up Till and they bring him up immediately.

    The standard should be the distance removed from the topic wheelhouse (ie, an anti-Keynesian philo-Semitic pacifist being compared to Hitler is egregious). I cannot imagine a non-egregious Till comparison in the current year.

  56. @George
    Any chance that in the idealized past you remember there appeared to be less litter because there were fewer people in CA, they had fewer children, and more people were paid to pick up the trash? California is currently have a financial crisis, so I would assume that less money is being paid to pick trash out of bushes. The financial crisis is due to the inability of CA to pay massive old age benefits to mostly white people. Before the GWOT the huge pension increases were payable, but with the resources mostly squandered during the previous 2 decades of war there isn't much left for trash removal. So instead of blaming others maybe aging white people should walk back some of the promises made to aging white people who complain about trash removal from isolated valleys.

    Most large cities may pick up trash along major roads and highways, but few send teams through residential neighborhoods picking up trash. Homeowners are responsible for keeping their own neighborhoods clean (or not.) Drive through a half dozen majority white neighborhoods and see how much trash there is along the gutters, yards and local businesses. Do the same in a half dozen mostly minority neighborhoods.

    What do you notice?

  57. Were you academically impressed (or horrified) by Latin kids from certain countries?

  58. Anonymous[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Drake
    The obvious response to the Vox journalist is to turn around the question: what if race realism is right about race?

    The left's position on race is that every inequality that disadvantages minorities is the fault of white racism. Some of these inequalities are about matters of life and death, such as police shootings.

    If the left is wrong, it means they are engaging in blood libel against white people.

    If that were ever generally realized, it would be a huge permanent blow against a movement that is supposedly based on equality.

    And this is why the left can never compromise on the race issue. They can't say "Oops, maybe we did promote blood libel against whites all along. Sorry about that." It's the hill they will die on.

    The obvious response to the Vox journalist is to turn around the question: what if race realism is right about race?

    The obvious response to the Vox journalist, who is an ardent Zionist, is, if Jews are allowed to discriminate in their immigration policies, why aren’t Whites?

  59. @Paleo Liberal
    To be fair:

    I used to teach at a community college with a very large number of Latino immigrants.

    I once taught a class on environmental science for non-science majors. Part of the final was each student talking to me 1 on 1 and describing the environmental situation of the land of their birth. (Not the US for any of the students).

    One of the most poignant discussions was with a young lady from South America (I forget which country) who had a hard time speaking English well enough to describe the severe environmental degradation in “my cooooun-try”. She was so passionately upset that she forced herself to describe what was going on. Terrible stuff. The government didn’t care about the common people and let the international corporations completely rape the land.

    When that is going on around you, it is hard to develop a culture of preserving the environment.

    The government didn’t care about the common people and let the international corporations completely rape the land.

    Welcome to our future!

    • Replies: @El Dato
    I think it's actually the present.
  60. @Clyde
    She has that Kryptonite hair look. Kryptonite that will make any sane hetero man give her a wide berth. Her intentionally unruly mass of hair is actually a broadcasting antennae transmitting -- "Dudes back off". This is her conscious or subconscious intention or she may be lesbian anyway. Next step is to color it purple.

    She has that Kryptonite hair look.

    She has the Nikola Tesla hair look, if you ask me.

    • Replies: @Duke84
    More like Sideshow Bob.
  61. @Lurker

    The government didn’t care about the common people and let the international corporations completely rape the land.
     
    Welcome to our future!

    I think it’s actually the present.

  62. I picture maybe an ad with two Mexicans cruising down the street in their lowrider. They toss out a broken pinata and an empty Corona bottle. A man in full pilgrim getup bends down to pick up both. As the camera zooms in a single tear falls down his cheek.

  63. @MEH 0910
    Jane Coaston is married to a person of pallor from New Zealand.

    https://everipedia.org/wiki/lang_en/jane-coaston/
    https://everipedia-storage.s3.amazonaws.com/NewlinkFiles/17045565/6b2c9___jane-coaston/jane-coaston-pictured-with-her-wife-belinda-odonne.png

    Jane Coaston pictured with her wife Belinda O'Donnell
     
    https://twitter.com/cjane87/status/594949902481764352

    https://twitter.com/cjane87/status/1005547241984184321

    https://www.gocrimson.com/sports/wcrew-hw/2008-09/bios/o-donnell_belinda?view=bio

    I’m happy about the marriage … but now what??

    “This is a gay bar. Happy pride. Cash only.”

    “Captain, My tricorder indicates low levels of trust in the area!”

  64. @Bragadocious
    Don't underestimate progressives. They have a pat answer for the mounds of garbage found in garbage neighborhoods. It's the fault of the sanitation engineers, who don't do as good a job there as they do in the wealthy neighborhoods. See, this is really about the disparity in public services, and not about personal behavior, you racists. Same thing with all those fires that happen in Sec. 8 buildings. It's not that someone left a lit Newport on the sofa, it's that the wiring is bad, because the electricians do shoddy work in supportive housing. Prove me wrong!

    Yet there is, of course, a kernel of truth in that. Bad neighborhoods and blank-hole countries will be poorer, and poorer areas will have fewer and worse services of every sort. It takes a lot of wealth and effort to overcome the ever-present forces of chaos. Regular trash collection and functioning plumbing are also among the “nice things” that dysfunctional societies just can’t have.

  65. @Kronos
    “Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.”

    ― Eric Hoffer, The Temper of Our Time

    Can you guess which stage the nurture-obsessed left is in? Eventually, they’ll burn up and be replaced with a new left that places a high regard in gene enhancement. When IQ is 80% genetic, you just can’t win in the end with their failed ideas/beliefs.

    That would be fun.

    The left back in the eliminate & enhance business, with smashingly nice uniforms for antifa and the higher educaschion representatives (not too nice, a bit maoist-delapidated because otherwise you would be … you know)

    • Replies: @Kronos
    Naaa the education establishment will get gored. I just hope EducationRealist and Spotted Toad get their pensions before the whole thing blows up. Think about it, what happens when the younger generations realize they paid tens of thousands of dollars for something that’s 80% determined before they’re even born.
  66. @Mr. Anon

    A question for conservatives: what if the left was right on race?

    By Jane Coaston
     
    A qutestion for Jane Coaston: what if the (real) right was/is right on race? Namely that it is real, that there are significant racial differences, and that these differences have conesquences?

    How dare you defend James Watson!
    What would a Nobel Prize winning molecular biologist, geneticist, and zoologist know about race?

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    Considering he is a thief, maybe not so much as you think.
  67. Random litter is both unsightly and unsanitary, but organized and purposeful litter would be a good way of actually getting rid of trash. Taken together, paper products, yard trimmings, rubber-leather-textiles, food, and wood comprise over 70% of the municipal solid waste stream. All of this could be left somewhere on the surface where it would quickly break down, rather than being interred in landfills where its decomposition takes much longer.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    What isit like to drain all the THC in one hit?
    , @obwandiyag
    There you go. A little intelligence applied to the subject.

    If there is anything I hate, it is dull All-American suburban conservative whining about litter. Jalopies in the yard. Etc.

    Out of sight, out of mind, that's their brilliant mindset. Put it in the proper receptacle, and it magically disappears.

    These boneheads are constantly moaning about "magical thinking." And yet I can't think of any thinking more magical than imagining putting trash in a waste basket makes it disappear.
    , @obwandiyag
    Actually, a lot of it could be made into alcohol.
  68. @Clyde
    She has that Kryptonite hair look. Kryptonite that will make any sane hetero man give her a wide berth. Her intentionally unruly mass of hair is actually a broadcasting antennae transmitting -- "Dudes back off". This is her conscious or subconscious intention or she may be lesbian anyway. Next step is to color it purple.

    or she may be lesbian anyway

  69. @The Wild Geese Howard
    TWGH is in the Third World as he writes this, and he can confirm there is trash everywhere. Even in the nice neighborhoods with villas and government buildings.

    It's really pathetic how liberals suffer under the delusion that the Third World is filled with ecologically sensitive vibrants living in close harmony with Nature as stewards of the land.

    I laughed at the recent trend of using Morocco as a location for some major Hollyweird films. For example, I liked how they tried to shoot the exterior daytime train images in the 007 film Spectre to conceal all the trash around the tracks.

    It’s the same way they have been for a long time with the American Indians, TWGH. I don’t think that crying guy being an Indian was necessarily all that realistic. A realistic commercial with a guy upset about all the litter by the roadside would show a middle-aged white guy in an orange jumpsuit, who had to work with a bunch of illiterate Mexicans by the interstate all afternoon out in the heat due to that unfortunate 2nd DUI.

    Lefties think of the old “noble savage” Indians as having been stewards of the environment, when, with 5 million or so on this whole huge continent, Mother Earth could do a damn good job of cleaning up after them with no help. With personal experience involved (albeit 1 datapoint), Peak Stupidity long ago asked “Are American Indians Slobs?”

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    Just typical wrong idiocy from dumbbell land.

    Try 90 ti 120 million, imbecile.
  70. @Charon
    While we're at it, removed in your last sentence should probably be remove.

    I struggled with that one. Still not sure. I lean towards agreeing with you.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    It's gotta be "remove". I don't see any two ways about it. "Still not sure" has no subject, also.

    I'm just piling on for the hell of it, sorry.
  71. @Hypnotoad666

    establish firm guardrails against racists
     
    Are the guardrails supposed to keep the racists on the road, so that they can safely make it to their racist destination?

    Or, perhaps the racists are in off-road vehicles and the guardrails are supposed to keep them from getting on the road with normal drivers.

    Or maybe everything off the road is racist, and the guardrails are supposed to keep regular motorists from crashing into all that racism.

    It's all very confusing. I think Vox needs to work on its metaphors.

    Come to think of it, maybe it’s not a metaphor at all. The guardrails must be put up to protect the Mexicans from the country lock-up as they collect all the litter off the shoulder of the highway up in the Mole-ass Pass (up near 10,000 ft, on the road from Silverton to Durango). It’s hairy, man, and your car will lose power just from the altitude.. if it’s carbureted. I mean “carbureted” as a metaphor, for like, …. not fuel injected, or something ….

  72. @RobUK

    I pose it as someone who has worked hard to understand the conservative movement and conservatism more broadly, and do so in the most generous possible light
     
    My Liemeter just pinged loudly. Yep, 7.1 (logarithmic scale)

    My gaydar clicked a few times, too, BTW. Could have been too close to the cat …

  73. @El Dato
    That would be fun.

    The left back in the eliminate & enhance business, with smashingly nice uniforms for antifa and the higher educaschion representatives (not too nice, a bit maoist-delapidated because otherwise you would be ... you know)

    Naaa the education establishment will get gored. I just hope EducationRealist and Spotted Toad get their pensions before the whole thing blows up. Think about it, what happens when the younger generations realize they paid tens of thousands of dollars for something that’s 80% determined before they’re even born.

  74. Sometimes it’s the racism of middle-class white liberals who fervently oppose school desegregation efforts in major cities under the belief that the presence of black children would result in plummeting school quality. …

    I think the current belief is that plummeting school quality is not caused by the presence of black children but rather by the absence of white children.

  75. @HammerJack
    Guardrails is good. We need to remember that one.

    Guardrails with self-driving vehicles.

    They will kill us–for our own good!

  76. @Paleo Liberal
    To be fair:

    I used to teach at a community college with a very large number of Latino immigrants.

    I once taught a class on environmental science for non-science majors. Part of the final was each student talking to me 1 on 1 and describing the environmental situation of the land of their birth. (Not the US for any of the students).

    One of the most poignant discussions was with a young lady from South America (I forget which country) who had a hard time speaking English well enough to describe the severe environmental degradation in “my cooooun-try”. She was so passionately upset that she forced herself to describe what was going on. Terrible stuff. The government didn’t care about the common people and let the international corporations completely rape the land.

    When that is going on around you, it is hard to develop a culture of preserving the environment.

    But the common people don’t always care, either.

    When you are talking to someone older from, say, Indonesia, asking them if they are upset about the environment having degraded so much over the last 50 years, elicits a blank stare at best. As far as they are concerned, they eat well, they can drive their kids to the next town for education, they don’t have smallpox ravaging their kampungs anymore. The clean, green, agrarian pre-industrial past absolutely sucked: why would anyone want to go back? I’m not trying to slag off the importance of taking care of the environment, but I don’t think it is hard to see why someone from that background would take a dim view of 1st World environmentalism if it comes into conflict with the real, tangible benefits of modern technology as they’ve experienced it. It has to be made clear that it doesn’t have to, and comfortable Washington think tank analysts aren’t always great at understanding priorities for most people.

    There’s room for optimis: China is getting started on a massive effort to clean things up, and while it has a long, long way to go, it is putting in effort now. (India is another, more depressing story, from all that I’ve heard.) But caring about things like the environment only becomes possible when you aren’t caring about more immediate things in life. Even in the developed world, I think many voters are going to get pretty hostile if they are the ones who are paying the price-what if they can’t afford to drive anymore?-for the concerns of the upper-middle class and the billionaires. Especially if they see said billionaires flying around in private jets. The job of a successful ruling class presiding over a pleasant society to live in is to set an example, not hector.

    It also does not help that the same people decrying the eating and living habits of the American people are vociferously against probably the quickest and most practical way of helping the environment: nuclear power. (Among so many other things: even leaving aside the fact that we have our own oil now, wouldn’t everybody like to be free from the whims of Middle Eastern theocrats?)

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    (Among so many other things: even leaving aside the fact that we have our own oil now, wouldn’t everybody like to be free from the whims of Middle Eastern theocrats?)
     
    I agreed with your comment up until the last sentence. Middle Eastern "theocrats" is a liberal canard. There is no effective theocracy there, and they are more dependent on their oil revenues now than ever. They would not compromise them on a whim.

    I would much rather be freed from the whims of Western oligarchs, bureaucrats, and multinationals.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Yes, agreed, the Chinese are going gangbusters to clean up the place. They are a can-do country now, and what they set their minds to do will happen in a big way.

    One problem will be to teach people to quit spitting so much, having their kids take dumps in the sticker bushes in downtown Shanghai, and stuff like that. Can they find a minority to go on TV and cry when he sees a grown Chinawoman hawk a loogie at the departure gate at Pudong Airport? Who are they going to find, though? The Han Chinese have been living there for 5,000 years.
    , @obwandiyag
    What a moron you are.
    , @Anonymous

    But caring about things like the environment only becomes possible when you aren’t caring about more immediate things in life.
     
    This misses the connection between trash and disease. Anything that encourages the breeding of rats and flies is bad.
  77. @nebulafox
    But the common people don't always care, either.

    When you are talking to someone older from, say, Indonesia, asking them if they are upset about the environment having degraded so much over the last 50 years, elicits a blank stare at best. As far as they are concerned, they eat well, they can drive their kids to the next town for education, they don't have smallpox ravaging their kampungs anymore. The clean, green, agrarian pre-industrial past absolutely sucked: why would anyone want to go back? I'm not trying to slag off the importance of taking care of the environment, but I don't think it is hard to see why someone from that background would take a dim view of 1st World environmentalism if it comes into conflict with the real, tangible benefits of modern technology as they've experienced it. It has to be made clear that it doesn't have to, and comfortable Washington think tank analysts aren't always great at understanding priorities for most people.

    There's room for optimis: China is getting started on a massive effort to clean things up, and while it has a long, long way to go, it is putting in effort now. (India is another, more depressing story, from all that I've heard.) But caring about things like the environment only becomes possible when you aren't caring about more immediate things in life. Even in the developed world, I think many voters are going to get pretty hostile if they are the ones who are paying the price-what if they can't afford to drive anymore?-for the concerns of the upper-middle class and the billionaires. Especially if they see said billionaires flying around in private jets. The job of a successful ruling class presiding over a pleasant society to live in is to set an example, not hector.

    It also does not help that the same people decrying the eating and living habits of the American people are vociferously against probably the quickest and most practical way of helping the environment: nuclear power. (Among so many other things: even leaving aside the fact that we have our own oil now, wouldn't everybody like to be free from the whims of Middle Eastern theocrats?)

    (Among so many other things: even leaving aside the fact that we have our own oil now, wouldn’t everybody like to be free from the whims of Middle Eastern theocrats?)

    I agreed with your comment up until the last sentence. Middle Eastern “theocrats” is a liberal canard. There is no effective theocracy there, and they are more dependent on their oil revenues now than ever. They would not compromise them on a whim.

    I would much rather be freed from the whims of Western oligarchs, bureaucrats, and multinationals.

  78. @Intelligent Dasein
    Random litter is both unsightly and unsanitary, but organized and purposeful litter would be a good way of actually getting rid of trash. Taken together, paper products, yard trimmings, rubber-leather-textiles, food, and wood comprise over 70% of the municipal solid waste stream. All of this could be left somewhere on the surface where it would quickly break down, rather than being interred in landfills where its decomposition takes much longer.

    What isit like to drain all the THC in one hit?

  79. @Clifford Brown
    https://www.zocalopublicsquare.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Duniway-LEAD.jpg

    “Some people have a deep, abiding respect for the natural beauty that was once this country. And some people don’t.”
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7OHG7tHrNM

    This anti-littering ad from the 1970's is worthy of Don Draper. Old Chief Iron Sides Cody may have technically been an Italian-American actor, but the he was pretty damn convincing. Look at all that great industry we once had in this nation.

    Could this public service piece work today with an REI clad, older, short haired, reserved, white lesbian woman crying over the trash strewn about O'Melveny Park in Grenada Hills? One could dream...

    The last time I was in Yosemite, there were a number of yoga pantsed (admittedly looking good) Instagram ladies who were posing with their toned asses prone at various scenic points along the Tioga Road, especially at Olmstead Point.

    Perhaps the mental pollution is worse than the physical one.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Muir_and_Roosevelt_restored.jpg

    Old Chief Iron Sides Cody may have technically been an Italian-American actor, but the he was pretty damn convincing. Look at all that great industry we once had in this nation.

    The 1999 live-action Dudley Do-Right movie had a running gag which, as far as I can tell, was a winking reference to Iron Eyes Cody- the entire Indian tribe in the movie, the “Canarsie Kumquats”, are very obviously NYC Italian-Americans running a scammy, kitschy tourist trap. (Their chief was played by Alex Rocco). The fact that I seem to be the only person on Earth who got the joke probably explains a lot about the reception that movie got from both audiences and critics.

  80. @Bard of Bumperstickers
    I struggled with that one. Still not sure. I lean towards agreeing with you.

    It’s gotta be “remove”. I don’t see any two ways about it. “Still not sure” has no subject, also.

    I’m just piling on for the hell of it, sorry.

    • Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers
    I don't feel abused. It's good that anyone cares. There is a difference between informal discussion and the majority not even knowing their native language. The degradation of language is key to controlling antiauthoritarian heretical thought, a la Orwell. So, thank you for your service! };^D
  81. @nebulafox
    But the common people don't always care, either.

    When you are talking to someone older from, say, Indonesia, asking them if they are upset about the environment having degraded so much over the last 50 years, elicits a blank stare at best. As far as they are concerned, they eat well, they can drive their kids to the next town for education, they don't have smallpox ravaging their kampungs anymore. The clean, green, agrarian pre-industrial past absolutely sucked: why would anyone want to go back? I'm not trying to slag off the importance of taking care of the environment, but I don't think it is hard to see why someone from that background would take a dim view of 1st World environmentalism if it comes into conflict with the real, tangible benefits of modern technology as they've experienced it. It has to be made clear that it doesn't have to, and comfortable Washington think tank analysts aren't always great at understanding priorities for most people.

    There's room for optimis: China is getting started on a massive effort to clean things up, and while it has a long, long way to go, it is putting in effort now. (India is another, more depressing story, from all that I've heard.) But caring about things like the environment only becomes possible when you aren't caring about more immediate things in life. Even in the developed world, I think many voters are going to get pretty hostile if they are the ones who are paying the price-what if they can't afford to drive anymore?-for the concerns of the upper-middle class and the billionaires. Especially if they see said billionaires flying around in private jets. The job of a successful ruling class presiding over a pleasant society to live in is to set an example, not hector.

    It also does not help that the same people decrying the eating and living habits of the American people are vociferously against probably the quickest and most practical way of helping the environment: nuclear power. (Among so many other things: even leaving aside the fact that we have our own oil now, wouldn't everybody like to be free from the whims of Middle Eastern theocrats?)

    Yes, agreed, the Chinese are going gangbusters to clean up the place. They are a can-do country now, and what they set their minds to do will happen in a big way.

    One problem will be to teach people to quit spitting so much, having their kids take dumps in the sticker bushes in downtown Shanghai, and stuff like that. Can they find a minority to go on TV and cry when he sees a grown Chinawoman hawk a loogie at the departure gate at Pudong Airport? Who are they going to find, though? The Han Chinese have been living there for 5,000 years.

    • Agree: jim jones
  82. @Jack D

    Before the GWOT the huge pension increases were payable, but with the resources mostly squandered during the previous 2 decades of war there isn’t much left for trash removal.
     
    You are trying to link two things that have nothing to do with each other. Trash removal is paid for at the state and local level. The GWOT was paid for mostly by borrowing at the Federal level. Had there been no GWOT, the pension and trash situation in California would be exactly the same.

    Now what is true is that as more and more of state and local budgets go to paying pensions, they have less and less money to actually provide services.

    But, the amount of litter that you see on the side of the road is a function of BOTH the rate of littering multiplied by the number of potential litterers and the rate of litter removal multiplied by the number of people doing litter removal. So all 4 factors are in play. If you not only increase the population but replace the previous group by a new group that has a higher rate of littering, the amount of litter that you see on the ground is going to go up regardless of whether the other factors are kept constant. You can infer the rate of littering of different groups by looking at the littering situation in their country of origin.

    “You are trying to link two things that have nothing to do with each other”

    The massive spending on the GWOT requires less spending domestically. Freedom isn’t free, and neither is trash collection, but you can pretend it is those rotten immigrants that are the reason there is some trash in the bushes.

  83. @Achmed E. Newman
    It's the same way they have been for a long time with the American Indians, TWGH. I don't think that crying guy being an Indian was necessarily all that realistic. A realistic commercial with a guy upset about all the litter by the roadside would show a middle-aged white guy in an orange jumpsuit, who had to work with a bunch of illiterate Mexicans by the interstate all afternoon out in the heat due to that unfortunate 2nd DUI.

    Lefties think of the old "noble savage" Indians as having been stewards of the environment, when, with 5 million or so on this whole huge continent, Mother Earth could do a damn good job of cleaning up after them with no help. With personal experience involved (albeit 1 datapoint), Peak Stupidity long ago asked "Are American Indians Slobs?"

    Just typical wrong idiocy from dumbbell land.

    Try 90 ti 120 million, imbecile.

  84. “Littering” is typical stealth-conservative, “it’s up to each and every one of us” bullshit propaganda.

    It is NOT up to “each and every one of us.” It is up to the elites, who produce all the litter.

    A goddam piece of chewing gum has a minimum of 5 freaking wrappings on it.

    You did not put them there. I did not put them there. Rich people put them there.

    Rich people are responsible for creating a throwaway society. To make money with, of course.

    But you people are so blind, you blame it on some poor schmuck throwing his McDonald’s bag out the window.

    You always put the blame on the poor hapless loser suckers. Typical cowardly insecure phony bully behavior.

    You pick on those who can’t fight back because you are afraid of the big cheeses, the real culprits.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    You pick on those who can’t fight back because you are afraid of the big cheeses, the real culprits.
     
    What would you have us do specifically?
  85. @Curmudgeon
    How dare you defend James Watson!
    What would a Nobel Prize winning molecular biologist, geneticist, and zoologist know about race?

    Considering he is a thief, maybe not so much as you think.

  86. It’s not like goodwhites don’t care about litter anymore. They care about it the same way they care about women’s rights and children’s safety: they care, but they care even more about accomodating their pet minorities. And so they tolerate Hispanic littering as they tolerate Muslim misogyny and black child abuse.

    • Agree: Unladen Swallow
    • Replies: @Anonymous

    And so they tolerate Hispanic littering as they tolerate Muslim misogyny and black child abuse.
     
    And as they tolerate Jewish genital mutilation of infants and Jewish supremacism in Palestine.
  87. @Intelligent Dasein
    Random litter is both unsightly and unsanitary, but organized and purposeful litter would be a good way of actually getting rid of trash. Taken together, paper products, yard trimmings, rubber-leather-textiles, food, and wood comprise over 70% of the municipal solid waste stream. All of this could be left somewhere on the surface where it would quickly break down, rather than being interred in landfills where its decomposition takes much longer.

    There you go. A little intelligence applied to the subject.

    If there is anything I hate, it is dull All-American suburban conservative whining about litter. Jalopies in the yard. Etc.

    Out of sight, out of mind, that’s their brilliant mindset. Put it in the proper receptacle, and it magically disappears.

    These boneheads are constantly moaning about “magical thinking.” And yet I can’t think of any thinking more magical than imagining putting trash in a waste basket makes it disappear.

  88. @Intelligent Dasein
    Random litter is both unsightly and unsanitary, but organized and purposeful litter would be a good way of actually getting rid of trash. Taken together, paper products, yard trimmings, rubber-leather-textiles, food, and wood comprise over 70% of the municipal solid waste stream. All of this could be left somewhere on the surface where it would quickly break down, rather than being interred in landfills where its decomposition takes much longer.

    Actually, a lot of it could be made into alcohol.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    Actually, a lot of it could be made into alcohol.
     
    Yes. Or composted, or burnt, or shredded and plowed into the topsoil for mulch, etc. You get the drift.

    While it would not be profitable to do so, the point is that a wealthy society ought to take the steps necessary to actually destroy its garbage, to return it to the elements, rather than just leaving it somewhere. Returning our unwanted material to the biosphere as quickly as possible is an earnest of responsibility. It is more in the spirit of being a good steward of the Earth.
  89. Anonymous[166] • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew
    It's not like goodwhites don't care about litter anymore. They care about it the same way they care about women's rights and children's safety: they care, but they care even more about accomodating their pet minorities. And so they tolerate Hispanic littering as they tolerate Muslim misogyny and black child abuse.

    And so they tolerate Hispanic littering as they tolerate Muslim misogyny and black child abuse.

    And as they tolerate Jewish genital mutilation of infants and Jewish supremacism in Palestine.

  90. @nebulafox
    But the common people don't always care, either.

    When you are talking to someone older from, say, Indonesia, asking them if they are upset about the environment having degraded so much over the last 50 years, elicits a blank stare at best. As far as they are concerned, they eat well, they can drive their kids to the next town for education, they don't have smallpox ravaging their kampungs anymore. The clean, green, agrarian pre-industrial past absolutely sucked: why would anyone want to go back? I'm not trying to slag off the importance of taking care of the environment, but I don't think it is hard to see why someone from that background would take a dim view of 1st World environmentalism if it comes into conflict with the real, tangible benefits of modern technology as they've experienced it. It has to be made clear that it doesn't have to, and comfortable Washington think tank analysts aren't always great at understanding priorities for most people.

    There's room for optimis: China is getting started on a massive effort to clean things up, and while it has a long, long way to go, it is putting in effort now. (India is another, more depressing story, from all that I've heard.) But caring about things like the environment only becomes possible when you aren't caring about more immediate things in life. Even in the developed world, I think many voters are going to get pretty hostile if they are the ones who are paying the price-what if they can't afford to drive anymore?-for the concerns of the upper-middle class and the billionaires. Especially if they see said billionaires flying around in private jets. The job of a successful ruling class presiding over a pleasant society to live in is to set an example, not hector.

    It also does not help that the same people decrying the eating and living habits of the American people are vociferously against probably the quickest and most practical way of helping the environment: nuclear power. (Among so many other things: even leaving aside the fact that we have our own oil now, wouldn't everybody like to be free from the whims of Middle Eastern theocrats?)

    What a moron you are.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    Pot. Kettle. Black.
  91. @Moses

    It’s really pathetic how liberals suffer under the delusion that the Third World is filled with ecologically sensitive vibrants living in close harmony with Nature as stewards of the land.
     
    Yeah.

    Spend some time in the 3rd world (I have) and you'll be shocked at the utter disregard for the environment or humane animal treatment. Trash everywhere. They don't mind it either.

    Ecologically sensitive vibrants living in close harmony with Nature they ain't.

    [Same with noise. White people hate noise. 3rd worlders like it -- the more, the better.]

    You idiot. The US and all the technology you so adore and you say “improves” lives it doesn’t dump all that litter there. Common people HAVE to litter. Everything comes in packaging nowadays. What are you supposed to do with it? Oh, I get it. Put it in the proper receptacle and have the garbage man take it away. And then it’s GONE!

    You imbecile. There are so many things wrong with you it would take an infinity of time to stop puking to tell you what they all are.

  92. @JimB

    She has that Kryptonite hair look.
     
    She has the Nikola Tesla hair look, if you ask me.

    More like Sideshow Bob.

  93. Anonymous[238] • Disclaimer says:
    @nebulafox
    But the common people don't always care, either.

    When you are talking to someone older from, say, Indonesia, asking them if they are upset about the environment having degraded so much over the last 50 years, elicits a blank stare at best. As far as they are concerned, they eat well, they can drive their kids to the next town for education, they don't have smallpox ravaging their kampungs anymore. The clean, green, agrarian pre-industrial past absolutely sucked: why would anyone want to go back? I'm not trying to slag off the importance of taking care of the environment, but I don't think it is hard to see why someone from that background would take a dim view of 1st World environmentalism if it comes into conflict with the real, tangible benefits of modern technology as they've experienced it. It has to be made clear that it doesn't have to, and comfortable Washington think tank analysts aren't always great at understanding priorities for most people.

    There's room for optimis: China is getting started on a massive effort to clean things up, and while it has a long, long way to go, it is putting in effort now. (India is another, more depressing story, from all that I've heard.) But caring about things like the environment only becomes possible when you aren't caring about more immediate things in life. Even in the developed world, I think many voters are going to get pretty hostile if they are the ones who are paying the price-what if they can't afford to drive anymore?-for the concerns of the upper-middle class and the billionaires. Especially if they see said billionaires flying around in private jets. The job of a successful ruling class presiding over a pleasant society to live in is to set an example, not hector.

    It also does not help that the same people decrying the eating and living habits of the American people are vociferously against probably the quickest and most practical way of helping the environment: nuclear power. (Among so many other things: even leaving aside the fact that we have our own oil now, wouldn't everybody like to be free from the whims of Middle Eastern theocrats?)

    But caring about things like the environment only becomes possible when you aren’t caring about more immediate things in life.

    This misses the connection between trash and disease. Anything that encourages the breeding of rats and flies is bad.

  94. @Neuday
    We're missing an opportunity! Trump should start an AmeriCorps, hiring urban yoots to pick-up litter. Hire blacks and browns to pick up their own litter.

    Or maybe President Sanders can force fast-food franchises to charge a $1 deposit on every bag, redeemable at the recycling center or McDonald's. Do the same for diapers, redeemable at the DMV. Seeing video of a long line of chubby mamasitas with bags of used diapers at a DMV staffed with fat black women is enough to make a feather-Indian shed a tear of joy, or me of laughter.

    Hire blacks and browns to pick up their own litter.

    Not sure there’s enough money in the known universe to make that happen.

  95. You can see the flecks of foam flying from teeth and lips now. The Woke are Mad Dog whistling.

  96. @Achmed E. Newman
    It's gotta be "remove". I don't see any two ways about it. "Still not sure" has no subject, also.

    I'm just piling on for the hell of it, sorry.

    I don’t feel abused. It’s good that anyone cares. There is a difference between informal discussion and the majority not even knowing their native language. The degradation of language is key to controlling antiauthoritarian heretical thought, a la Orwell. So, thank you for your service! };^D

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Speaking of the degradation of language, one of my neighbors went deep into enemy territory last night to an event downtown where they were discussing prison reform among other things. He said he asked a question about restoring the voting rights of felons, and was promptly told that the correct term was "returning citizen".
  97. Anonymous[206] • Disclaimer says:
    @obwandiyag
    "Littering" is typical stealth-conservative, "it's up to each and every one of us" bullshit propaganda.

    It is NOT up to "each and every one of us." It is up to the elites, who produce all the litter.

    A goddam piece of chewing gum has a minimum of 5 freaking wrappings on it.

    You did not put them there. I did not put them there. Rich people put them there.

    Rich people are responsible for creating a throwaway society. To make money with, of course.

    But you people are so blind, you blame it on some poor schmuck throwing his McDonald's bag out the window.

    You always put the blame on the poor hapless loser suckers. Typical cowardly insecure phony bully behavior.

    You pick on those who can't fight back because you are afraid of the big cheeses, the real culprits.

    You pick on those who can’t fight back because you are afraid of the big cheeses, the real culprits.

    What would you have us do specifically?

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    A la lanternes.
  98. @Bragadocious
    Don't underestimate progressives. They have a pat answer for the mounds of garbage found in garbage neighborhoods. It's the fault of the sanitation engineers, who don't do as good a job there as they do in the wealthy neighborhoods. See, this is really about the disparity in public services, and not about personal behavior, you racists. Same thing with all those fires that happen in Sec. 8 buildings. It's not that someone left a lit Newport on the sofa, it's that the wiring is bad, because the electricians do shoddy work in supportive housing. Prove me wrong!

    Yes, the community is filthy and litter-strewn because it is “marginalized” and “underserved.” But gentrification — e.g. jobs, stores, trees, new buildings etc — would be even worse!

  99. @obwandiyag
    Actually, a lot of it could be made into alcohol.

    Actually, a lot of it could be made into alcohol.

    Yes. Or composted, or burnt, or shredded and plowed into the topsoil for mulch, etc. You get the drift.

    While it would not be profitable to do so, the point is that a wealthy society ought to take the steps necessary to actually destroy its garbage, to return it to the elements, rather than just leaving it somewhere. Returning our unwanted material to the biosphere as quickly as possible is an earnest of responsibility. It is more in the spirit of being a good steward of the Earth.

  100. @MEH 0910
    Jane Coaston is married to a person of pallor from New Zealand.

    https://everipedia.org/wiki/lang_en/jane-coaston/
    https://everipedia-storage.s3.amazonaws.com/NewlinkFiles/17045565/6b2c9___jane-coaston/jane-coaston-pictured-with-her-wife-belinda-odonne.png

    Jane Coaston pictured with her wife Belinda O'Donnell
     
    https://twitter.com/cjane87/status/594949902481764352

    https://twitter.com/cjane87/status/1005547241984184321

    https://www.gocrimson.com/sports/wcrew-hw/2008-09/bios/o-donnell_belinda?view=bio

    So she chucks organic kale wrappers and other trash all over the house and the white chick has to pick it all up without saying anything

  101. anonymous[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @George
    Any chance that in the idealized past you remember there appeared to be less litter because there were fewer people in CA, they had fewer children, and more people were paid to pick up the trash? California is currently have a financial crisis, so I would assume that less money is being paid to pick trash out of bushes. The financial crisis is due to the inability of CA to pay massive old age benefits to mostly white people. Before the GWOT the huge pension increases were payable, but with the resources mostly squandered during the previous 2 decades of war there isn't much left for trash removal. So instead of blaming others maybe aging white people should walk back some of the promises made to aging white people who complain about trash removal from isolated valleys.

    Nope, littering is mainly a minority thing.

    https://www.dailynews.com/2014/11/06/los-angeles-to-crack-down-on-illegal-dumping-on-streets-alleys/

    https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2019/06/03/mayor-eric-garcetti-blames-la-trash-problem-on-illegal-dumping-not-homeless-community/

    It’s not whites trying to save a buck by illegally dumping their business’ trash. You can also read Victor Davis Hanson’s Mexifornia articles to see how illegals trashed his area.

  102. “By “right on race,” she doesn’t mean “correct” or “scientifically accurate” or “empirically validated” on race, she means “holy:” What if the left was right all along that the right crimethinks about race? We were right that the right has impure thoughts!”

    Where does Madison Grant fit in? By “right on race”, does he mean “correct” or “scientifically accurate” or “empirically validated”?

    Source –> https://www.dartmouth.edu/~hist32/History/White.htm

    “Between 1880 and WWI, the United States experienced large waves of European immigration. These “new immigrants” however did not come from northern Europe and represented a frightening diversity to many. The difference perceived in these immigrants was frequently described as a racial difference in which Europeans were represented as, not one, but many races identified by region (Alpine, Mediterranean, Slavic and Nordic) or by alleged headshape (roundheads, slopeheads). Madison Grant, a biologist and curator for the American Museum of Natural History in New York explained in his book The Passing of the Great Race that White Americans, the great race, were losing out to hordes of inferior European immigrants. Grant’s book was so popular it experienced 7 reprints before WWII. According to Grant, “These new immigrants were no longer exclusively members of the Nordic race as were the earlier ones…The transportation lines advertised America as a land flowing with milk and honey and the European governments took the opportunity to unload upon careless, wealthy and hospitable America the sweepings of their jails and asylums…Our jails, insane asylums and almshouses are filled with this human flotsam and the whole tone of american life, social, moral and political has been lowered and vulgarized by them.”

    As far as littering is concerned, it required a major change in public consciousness.

    https://www.alleghenyfront.org/the-psychology-of-littering/

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The WASPs were fools to have let in all those other groups, and they were fools again for allowing the borders to be re-opened in the 1960s. They lost their country because of it. Now you want the Irish/Germans/Italians/etc. to make the same mistake?
  103. @Bard of Bumperstickers
    I don't feel abused. It's good that anyone cares. There is a difference between informal discussion and the majority not even knowing their native language. The degradation of language is key to controlling antiauthoritarian heretical thought, a la Orwell. So, thank you for your service! };^D

    Speaking of the degradation of language, one of my neighbors went deep into enemy territory last night to an event downtown where they were discussing prison reform among other things. He said he asked a question about restoring the voting rights of felons, and was promptly told that the correct term was “returning citizen”.

    • Replies: @Corn
    I f—-ing hate the liberal language police.
  104. Shoutout to the Toilers! Talk about a practical high school mascot….

  105. @George
    Any chance that in the idealized past you remember there appeared to be less litter because there were fewer people in CA, they had fewer children, and more people were paid to pick up the trash? California is currently have a financial crisis, so I would assume that less money is being paid to pick trash out of bushes. The financial crisis is due to the inability of CA to pay massive old age benefits to mostly white people. Before the GWOT the huge pension increases were payable, but with the resources mostly squandered during the previous 2 decades of war there isn't much left for trash removal. So instead of blaming others maybe aging white people should walk back some of the promises made to aging white people who complain about trash removal from isolated valleys.

    Trash pick up is city and county responsibility, not state. Parks and streets is a big affirmative action alternative to welfare department. Plenty of workers. They clean the parks every morning. By evening, especially Saturday and Sunday, every trash can and dumpster is full again.

  106. @Bragadocious
    Don't underestimate progressives. They have a pat answer for the mounds of garbage found in garbage neighborhoods. It's the fault of the sanitation engineers, who don't do as good a job there as they do in the wealthy neighborhoods. See, this is really about the disparity in public services, and not about personal behavior, you racists. Same thing with all those fires that happen in Sec. 8 buildings. It's not that someone left a lit Newport on the sofa, it's that the wiring is bad, because the electricians do shoddy work in supportive housing. Prove me wrong!

    Back before the Mexicans drove the blacks out of Los Angeles, blacks claimed that evil White suburbanites drove to Watts and south central to dump their trash.

  107. @Kronos
    “Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.”

    ― Eric Hoffer, The Temper of Our Time

    Can you guess which stage the nurture-obsessed left is in? Eventually, they’ll burn up and be replaced with a new left that places a high regard in gene enhancement. When IQ is 80% genetic, you just can’t win in the end with their failed ideas/beliefs.

    When IQ is 80% genetic

    Isn’t it between 60 and 70? Havent seen that high of an estimate before

    • Replies: @Kronos
    “Intelligence in the normal range is a polygenic trait, meaning that it is influenced by more than one gene, more specifically, over 500, and is thought to be 50% to 80% genetic in origin. The heritability of IQ for adults is between 57% and 73% with some more-recent estimates as high as 80% and 86%.

    Wikipedia › wiki › Heritability_of_IQ”

    I believe both Robert Plomin and Arther Jensen favored the 80% number. They could only find that education only accounted between 0-15%. I’m sure many social scientists are scared to give it a majority 51%+ share.
  108. @BengaliCanadianDude

    When IQ is 80% genetic
     
    Isn't it between 60 and 70? Havent seen that high of an estimate before

    “Intelligence in the normal range is a polygenic trait, meaning that it is influenced by more than one gene, more specifically, over 500, and is thought to be 50% to 80% genetic in origin. The heritability of IQ for adults is between 57% and 73% with some more-recent estimates as high as 80% and 86%.

    Wikipedia › wiki › Heritability_of_IQ”

    I believe both Robert Plomin and Arther Jensen favored the 80% number. They could only find that education only accounted between 0-15%. I’m sure many social scientists are scared to give it a majority 51%+ share.

  109. @Jim Don Bob
    Speaking of the degradation of language, one of my neighbors went deep into enemy territory last night to an event downtown where they were discussing prison reform among other things. He said he asked a question about restoring the voting rights of felons, and was promptly told that the correct term was "returning citizen".

    I f—-ing hate the liberal language police.

  110. @Anonymous

    You pick on those who can’t fight back because you are afraid of the big cheeses, the real culprits.
     
    What would you have us do specifically?

    A la lanternes.

  111. Anonymous[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    "By “right on race,” she doesn’t mean “correct” or “scientifically accurate” or “empirically validated” on race, she means “holy:” What if the left was right all along that the right crimethinks about race? We were right that the right has impure thoughts!"

    Where does Madison Grant fit in? By "right on race", does he mean "correct" or "scientifically accurate" or "empirically validated"?

    Source –> https://www.dartmouth.edu/~hist32/History/White.htm

    “Between 1880 and WWI, the United States experienced large waves of European immigration. These “new immigrants” however did not come from northern Europe and represented a frightening diversity to many. The difference perceived in these immigrants was frequently described as a racial difference in which Europeans were represented as, not one, but many races identified by region (Alpine, Mediterranean, Slavic and Nordic) or by alleged headshape (roundheads, slopeheads). Madison Grant, a biologist and curator for the American Museum of Natural History in New York explained in his book The Passing of the Great Race that White Americans, the great race, were losing out to hordes of inferior European immigrants. Grant’s book was so popular it experienced 7 reprints before WWII. According to Grant, “These new immigrants were no longer exclusively members of the Nordic race as were the earlier ones…The transportation lines advertised America as a land flowing with milk and honey and the European governments took the opportunity to unload upon careless, wealthy and hospitable America the sweepings of their jails and asylums…Our jails, insane asylums and almshouses are filled with this human flotsam and the whole tone of american life, social, moral and political has been lowered and vulgarized by them.”

    As far as littering is concerned, it required a major change in public consciousness.

    https://www.alleghenyfront.org/the-psychology-of-littering/

    The WASPs were fools to have let in all those other groups, and they were fools again for allowing the borders to be re-opened in the 1960s. They lost their country because of it. Now you want the Irish/Germans/Italians/etc. to make the same mistake?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "The WASPs were fools to have let in all those other groups..."

    You mean their fellow white Europeans?

    "Now you want the Irish/Germans/Italians/etc. to make the same mistake?"

    Oh, so you believe in magic dirt. Great to know.
  112. @silviosilver
    As for the Jane Coaston article, I agree with her that "real conservatism" is indeed about race. And rightly so.

    In the past, it seemed to make sense to publicly deny this. I'm not sure how much good that really did. After all, Republican election victories never resulted in a single pro-white political gain.

    Maybe it's just better to be open about it: of course conservatism is "about race"; how could it not be? (Sure, conservatism is about other things too, but it can't pretend that race doesn't matter.)

    Maybe embrace the term “racist” like the LGB s embraced “queer” and the word loses its shock value.

  113. @Clyde
    She has that Kryptonite hair look. Kryptonite that will make any sane hetero man give her a wide berth. Her intentionally unruly mass of hair is actually a broadcasting antennae transmitting -- "Dudes back off". This is her conscious or subconscious intention or she may be lesbian anyway. Next step is to color it purple.

    In my sixth decade it finally dawned on me that some women allow themselves to look ugly and dykey because they positively _want_ to repel men. Oh, duh!

  114. @Anonymous
    The WASPs were fools to have let in all those other groups, and they were fools again for allowing the borders to be re-opened in the 1960s. They lost their country because of it. Now you want the Irish/Germans/Italians/etc. to make the same mistake?

    “The WASPs were fools to have let in all those other groups…”

    You mean their fellow white Europeans?

    “Now you want the Irish/Germans/Italians/etc. to make the same mistake?”

    Oh, so you believe in magic dirt. Great to know.

  115. @obwandiyag
    What a moron you are.

    Pot. Kettle. Black.

  116. https://jonahgoldberg.com/remnant-episode-124-how-to-think-about-racism-shownotes/4314/

    Here are shownotes for Remnant Episode 124: How To Think About Racism, with Vox Senior Politics Reporter Jane Coaston:

    •Sign up for the G-File at Reagan35X.com
    •The G-File on “Racism and the Right”
    •“A question for conservatives: what if the left was right about race?” – Jane Coaston
    •“What if there really is no such thing as Trumpism?” – Jane Coaston
    •“You know…morons.”
    •Pat Buchanan’s 1992 RNC speech
    •The problems with Democracy in Chains
    •Chris Rock on America “producing better white people”
    The Autobiography of Malcolm X
    •The Tim Alberta episode
    •Peter Viereck
    •Bryan Caplan episode
    •Yoram Hazony episode
    •Orwell on a man taking a drink because he thinks himself a failure…

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    While listening to a podcast of Jane Coaston with John McWhorter, I heard Jane mention that she had a white mother. Researching this, I found a discussion about Jane Coaston, including a comment that mentions Jane's sad childhood along with a dead link to a piece that Jane wrote about her mother's drinking. I researched more and found a piece Jane wrote about herself being depressed and suicidal when she was younger:

    In the Valley
    Jane Coaston
    August 14, 2014

    ******
    You come from a long line of sad people. You didn’t know this until you met other people who don’t eat peanut butter and honey sandwiches and who aren’t sad. Your mom is sad and a prodigious alcoholic. Your dad is sad and an insomniac. Your sister is sad and anxious. This is who you are. You are a sad person from a sad family. You were born and raised in a valley of sad and all you can see is sad. You are covered in a thick film of sad. When you later discuss this “depression” with your dad, he says that this how everyone thinks, secretly, they just don’t talk about it. “We’re just realists.” This is untrue, you will discover.
     
    Jane Coaston also lost weight:

    How Three Washingtonians Lost Weight and Have Kept It Off
    Written by Melissa Romero | Published on February 18, 2014

    Jane Coaston

    Before: 265 pounds
    After: 170 pounds
    Height: Five-foot-eight

    How she did it: In college, Coaston’s diet consisted of cereal for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. “It really wasn’t healthful at all,” she says. Coaston later learned about the Paleo diet, which promotes meat, seafood, vegetables, and nuts while eliminating dairy, grains, beans, and processed foods. Cutting carbs and sugars from her meals helped her go from a size 10 to a 6 in the past year. “It’s taken a really long time,” says Coaston, now 26 and press secretary for an environmental organization. But the weight loss “has been the biggest success of my life.”
     
    https://www.washingtonian.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/021714-WB-LoseIt-JaneCoaston.jpg
  117. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/cjane87/status/1158393515405139968

    https://jonahgoldberg.com/remnant-episode-124-how-to-think-about-racism-shownotes/4314/

    Here are shownotes for Remnant Episode 124: How To Think About Racism, with Vox Senior Politics Reporter Jane Coaston:

    •Sign up for the G-File at Reagan35X.com
    •The G-File on “Racism and the Right”
    •“A question for conservatives: what if the left was right about race?” – Jane Coaston
    •“What if there really is no such thing as Trumpism?” – Jane Coaston
    •“You know…morons.”
    •Pat Buchanan’s 1992 RNC speech
    •The problems with Democracy in Chains
    •Chris Rock on America “producing better white people”
    The Autobiography of Malcolm X
    •The Tim Alberta episode
    •Peter Viereck
    •Bryan Caplan episode
    •Yoram Hazony episode
    •Orwell on a man taking a drink because he thinks himself a failure…

     

    While listening to a podcast of Jane Coaston with John McWhorter, I heard Jane mention that she had a white mother. Researching this, I found a discussion about Jane Coaston, including a comment that mentions Jane’s sad childhood along with a dead link to a piece that Jane wrote about her mother’s drinking. I researched more and found a piece Jane wrote about herself being depressed and suicidal when she was younger:

    In the Valley
    Jane Coaston
    August 14, 2014

    ******
    You come from a long line of sad people. You didn’t know this until you met other people who don’t eat peanut butter and honey sandwiches and who aren’t sad. Your mom is sad and a prodigious alcoholic. Your dad is sad and an insomniac. Your sister is sad and anxious. This is who you are. You are a sad person from a sad family. You were born and raised in a valley of sad and all you can see is sad. You are covered in a thick film of sad. When you later discuss this “depression” with your dad, he says that this how everyone thinks, secretly, they just don’t talk about it. “We’re just realists.” This is untrue, you will discover.

    Jane Coaston also lost weight:

    How Three Washingtonians Lost Weight and Have Kept It Off
    Written by Melissa Romero | Published on February 18, 2014

    Jane Coaston

    Before: 265 pounds
    After: 170 pounds
    Height: Five-foot-eight

    How she did it: In college, Coaston’s diet consisted of cereal for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. “It really wasn’t healthful at all,” she says. Coaston later learned about the Paleo diet, which promotes meat, seafood, vegetables, and nuts while eliminating dairy, grains, beans, and processed foods. Cutting carbs and sugars from her meals helped her go from a size 10 to a 6 in the past year. “It’s taken a really long time,” says Coaston, now 26 and press secretary for an environmental organization. But the weight loss “has been the biggest success of my life.”

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