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From Gallup:

FEBRUARY 24, 2021
LGBT Identification Rises to 5.6% in Latest U.S. Estimate
BY JEFFREY M. JONES

And, no, it’s not mature adults finally developing the courage to come out of the closet that’s behind this 60% increase in the share of the public identifying as LGBT from 2012 to 2020, it’s recruitment of fresh meat young bodies.

Transgender and the bisexual catch-all are up dramatically among the young and vulnerable.

In addition to the pronounced generational differences, significant gender differences are seen in sexual identity, as well as differences by people’s political ideology:

Women are more likely than men to identify as LGBT (6.4% vs. 4.9%, respectively).

Women are more likely to identify as bisexual — 4.3% do, with 1.3% identifying as lesbian and 1.3% as something else. Among men, 2.5% identify as gay, 1.8% as bisexual and 0.6% as something else.

13.0% of political liberals, 4.4% of moderates and 2.3% of conservatives say they are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender.

Differences are somewhat less pronounced by party identification than by ideology, with 8.8% of Democrats, 6.5% of independents and 1.7% of Republicans identifying as LGBT.

There are no meaningful educational differences — 5.6% of college graduates and 5.7% of college nongraduates are LGBT.

I know an older man, a cultured gentleman with whom I’ve gone to the opera, whose wife wants to take him to the cleaners in a divorce. So she’s encouraging their teenage daughters to claim to be boys.

It’s not hard to get adolescent girls to along with the latest social fads, like dressing emo two decades ago. But back then there wasn’t an Emo Rights movement that got Emo Identity written into the laws. So if in 2001 dad switched the car radio from Marilyn Manson to Chopin, the daughters couldn’t call in government social workers as vengeance. But now if you are overheard referring to your daughter as “she,” you can be in big trouble with the Law.

 
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  1. I know an older man, a cultured gentleman with whom I’ve gone to the opera, whose wife wants to take him to the cleaners in a divorce. So she’s encouraging their teenage daughters to claim to be boys.

    In effect, the revenge of Medea, as far as leaving posterity, at least for a middle-aged woman – the middle-aged husband still has a chance. And likely, a bitter, lonely old age.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Elli


    whose wife wants to take him to the cleaners in a divorce. So she’s encouraging their teenage daughters to claim to be boys.

     

    One can only hope the daughters then take mommy dearest to the cleaners for her child abuse.
    , @Anonymous
    @Elli

    Yeah, women are the embittered ones. Certainly not the Men of Unz, who act like the biggest IQ gap is the male female-one, not the black and white one, or the one between me and the Men of Unz. I'd love to have a battle of the g between women and MOUs. I am not suggesting I'm smarter than the average male reader of isteve, so long as that average is > 135. I'm merely suggesting the ones whose dicks got shriveled in a bad relationship average below 115.

  2. 13 percent of liberals are in that category? Over 1 in 8, wow.
    Of course, what is the exact definition or criterion of lgb? A mere feeling that may or may not be acted on? Or active banging? I can easily imagine someone claiming to be “b” to gain DIE points, but without it changing their actual personal life.

    • Agree: Gordo
    • Replies: @BigTex
    @Mike_from_SGV

    Right, I would only trust the people who are actually in active mating relationships. The rest are undersexed and desperate, confused.

    , @Dissident
    @Mike_from_SGV


    Of course, what is the exact definition or criterion of lgb? A mere feeling that may or may not be acted on? Or active banging?
     
    That very conflation-- of involuntary feelings with voluntary behaviors-- is a core component of the propaganda that has been so successfully employed by the LGBTQ lobby.

    A further conflation is that of the specific act of anal penetration with male homoesexuality and homoerotic carnal intercourse, per se. (It goes from an initial dubious assertion-- that "homosexuality" (quotation marks to indicate the ambiguity with which the term is used) -- almost immediately to the assertion of an inalienable, nearly unlimited right to bugger wantonly at the public's expense.)
    ~ ~ ~
    Intensifier wrote:


    In crude terms what percentage of these “non binary” and “bisexual” and “pansexual” boys actually regularly engage in anal penetration?
     
    While that would indeed be an interesting and instructive question in its own right, what, specifically, is its relevance here?

    Is it your contention that the only males who can credibly claim to be bisexual or pansexual are those who regularly engage in anal penetration with another male?

  3. The growth of bisexuality, transgenderism, and lesbianism is very evident among younger women. Not just here in North America, but even in Europe too.

    There are surveys that have shown a significant fall in sexual activity among young men, along with an even more significant fall in the teen pregnancy rate. However, there is a less notable decline in sexual activity among young women. Which doesn’t make sense. The data points seem contradictory.

    What can explain this enigma?

    Lots of young women are exploring sexual relations with the same gender. There’s been a huge uptick in same-sex activity among younger women in recent years. So they’re still sexually active, but not necessarily with boys.

    In a lot of youth music these days, you hear a male singer talking about how his favorite girl is “into girls” now and avoiding boys.

    Listen to this contemporary song from “The Weeknd.” He’s an ultra popular singer from Toronto. In this song, he talks about how he likes a girl and wants to have raunchy sex with her. However, this girl has temporarily abandoned boys to become a lesbian, in order to avoid getting her heart broken.

    Listen 1:15-1:25.

    • Replies: @Malenfant
    @JohnnyWalker123



    There are surveys that have shown a significant fall in sexual activity among young men, along with an even more significant fall in the teen pregnancy rate. However, there is a less notable decline in sexual activity among young women. Which doesn’t make sense. The data points seem contradictory.

    What can explain this enigma?

     

    This is easy.

    Apps like Tinder and the rise of hook-up culture have made things much easier for the top 10% of young men, and much more difficult for average or below-average young men. So the chads are having much more sex, the young women are sated, and yet there are a lot more incels than there used to be...

    It's not lesbianism, which in truth hardly even exists.

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful, @JohnnyWalker123

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @JohnnyWalker123


    In a lot of youth music these days, you hear a male singer talking about how his favorite girl is “into girls” now and avoiding boys.
     
    Uh, dyke-pop is now a thing.

    Fletcher is just one of many examples:

    https://youtu.be/hhY_ZPzz5JU
    , @ken
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I've wondered how much porn has contributed to this. More women are viewing porn and it's pretty nasty. So a young woman sees women being choked, slapped and every hole crammed with giant dongs. Who wants to give that a try? Especially if you're viewing it in your teens. Then your not going to church, your teachers are telling you to try anything; what do you think is going to happen?

    , @e
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Just remember that with large % or females, esp. young, socially-isolated or socially inept or physically unattractive, sexual behavior does not represent actual sexual attraction/desire.

    Think of all the homosexual men who've had some sexual experience with women. All it takes it friction, as they say. Most gay men who've had such experiences with women are not physically stimulated by the female form as the hetero man is. That doesn't mean he can't enjoy a physical experience at which a woman is present. All it takes is friction and the human interaction with another human being is, at that moment anyway, perhaps more inviting than masturbating at home alone.

    With many of these women, it's the same. They are not attracted physically to the other woman, but there's another person there with a vibrator and it beats loneliness.

    I think most Americans who aren't around high schoolers and young college people don't understand that "dating" is a thing of the past in many urban and suburban areas. "Hooking up" is the college scene and it's especially unfulfilling and dangerous for girls, as one might imagine.

    It's led to all kinds of strange new behaviors, and I seriously doubt it has much, if anything, to do with actual physical attraction.


    When a dog humps your leg it's to relieve a physical urge.

    , @Intensifier
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Perhaps part of the reason why there is a fall in sexual activity among young males with no such fall among young females lies in the fact that the female right to kill any consequent child at her discretion is absolute and is a guaranteed way out of lifelong commitment whereas the male has no such prerogative and is quite literally putting his future in her hands.....some high status highly intelligent young men see the eye-catching problem here and steer clear of the honeytrap.

    In essence whilst sex is essentially consequence-free entertainment for women for men it is potentially life-changing and disempowering.

  4. Only white engage in this behavior.

    That tells you something right there

    • Replies: @jon
    @Simon Snowlock


    Only white engage in this behavior.
     
    Most stats I've seen say the opposite:

    The relative rank order of the LGBT percentages among these four race and ethnic groups has remained roughly the same over the last several years. At 6.1%, Hispanics continue to be the single race or ethnic group most likely to identify as LGBT, while the 4.0 % of whites who identify as LGBT remains the lowest. LGBT identification among blacks and Asians, 4.9% and 5.0%, respectively, is essentially midway between the estimates for Hispanics and whites.
     
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/234863/estimate-lgbt-population-rises.aspx (a 2018 poll, but the newest that popped up in my search).

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Simon Snowlock

    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0826/7525/products/snowman_duckie4.jpg?v=1542916047

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Simon Snowlock

    I think you are wrong.

    Actually, the highest trans m>f "movement" is among mulattoes in Brazil & yellow-brown people in Indo-China.

    Perhaps 80% of the transgenderistas are m>f, and mulattoes absolutely dominate. Why are mulattoes so into it, I am clueless....

    Some links not exactly corroborating this, but still ...

    https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/race-ethnicity-trans-adults-us/

    Race and Ethnicity of Adults Who Identify as Transgender in the United States

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5227939/

    Transgender Demographics: A Household Probability Sample of US Adults, 2014

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-81411-4

    Proportion of people identified as transgender and non-binary gender in Brazil

    https://raceandequality.org/english/brazil-is-the-country-with-the-greatest-number-of-assassinations-of-trans-persons-in-the-world/

    Brazil is the country with the greatest number of assassinations of trans persons in the world

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    , @Radicalcenter
    @Simon Snowlock

    Tell that to the many, many lesbian mestiza “Latina” young women waddling around Los Angeles. Also, let’s ignore the widespread “down low” homosexual culture within the African-“American” “community.”

    , @Dissident
    @Simon Snowlock


    Only white engage in this behavior.

     

    Two whites don't make a wong. (Or was that, "Two wongs don't make a white?)

    That tells you something right there
     
    What about intimacy with tiny ducks? How is that received in communities-of-color?
    , @gent
    @Simon Snowlock

    That's not true at all, though. Anyone in any city will see rainbow haired mulatresses and fat latino trannies.

  5. I can kinda see the high value of “no opinion” for the “Traditionalists (born before 1946) in that first table: “Do you have a penis or a vagina?” “Honestly, sonny, it doesn’t matter that much to me now.” OTOH, for the rest on there, WTF?!

    You got it right in your last paragraph. Government schools have become evil, and Government has become evil.

  6. Gosh, what a world. Faggotry of faggotries, all is faggotry.

  7. Very disturbing that there are more self-identified transgenders than lesbians among 2 generational cohorts.

    More disturbing to ponder how many more of them consider themselves non binary.

    And you’re right, a lot of these changes are due to social pressures on young women. They are calling masculine girls “non binaries” or boys, as if there weren’t popular books about written since the Victorian era, like Little Women or Caddie Woodlawn. Culprit for the slight rise in LGBT identification among men is likely pornsickness.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @S. Anonyia

    >Very disturbing that there are more self-identified transgenders than lesbians among 2 generational cohorts.

    The numbers are astounding any way you look at it but likely a lot of this is explained by the proliferation in meaningless 'third' genders available for self-survey. 'Queer,' 'Gender non-conforming,' 'bi-gender,' etc. Essentially fashion statements. Not all of them are medically transitioning with hormones and surgery.

    Replies: @jon, @dfordoom

    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @S. Anonyia


    Very disturbing that there are more self-identified transgenders than lesbians among 2 generational cohorts.

    More disturbing to ponder how many more of them consider themselves non binary.

    And you’re right, a lot of these changes are due to social pressures on young women. They are calling masculine girls “non binaries” or boys, as if there weren’t popular books about written since the Victorian era, like Little Women or Caddie Woodlawn. Culprit for the slight rise in LGBT identification among men is likely pornsickness.

     

    There is a blogger/podcaster named Katie Herzog who writes with Sullivan about the vanishing of lesbians - it's her observation that women who would have been yesterday's lesbians are now identifying as non-binary or trans:

    https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/where-have-all-the-lesbians-gone-0a7
    , @william munny
    @S. Anonyia

    Maybe the US is becoming like Iran. No
    gays allowed. You can have the surgery though. But instead of Mullahs it is at the direction of the MtF trans elite.

  8. Anon[167] • Disclaimer says:

    The thing I don’t get about F-to-M trannies is that if they really had the brain of a male you’d think they’d know that a guy’s biggest nightmare might well be not having a dick. But that’s what they want to become.

    If the choice were presented to me of having my dick and balls cut off, or having my brain put in the body of a woman, a real from-birth woman, I gotta tell ya, I think I’d become the chick.

    • LOL: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Anon

    A lot of MtF trannies apparently skip the painful part of "transitioning".

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  9. Don’t get married, gents, unless you are religious and, more importantly, she is extremely religious.

    These times are a terrible time to be a father.

    Poor bastard.

  10. LGBT = Let’s get beyond this.

  11. Right on cue:

    Charlize Theron wants to replace Bruce Willis as the lead in a lesbian remake of 1988 cult-classic Die Hard

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9296499/Charlize-Theron-love-replace-Bruce-Willis-lead-lesbian-remake-Die-Hard.html

  12. Yeah, when I read that headline I immediately wanted to know how heavily high-school/college-age “bisexuals” “transgenders” and “non-binaries” were impacting these numbers. Thanks.

  13. As you say, Steve, this is not by accident. Nor is it an organic societal development (unless it’s due to the effects of certain environmental pollutants). It’s part of a recruitment campaign – one that’s been going on for at least forty years now.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Mr. Anon

    I’ve recommended this video before. Sailer has also mentioned A. Shrier. It’s worth watching.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ewGPmqPeMvA

    There’s several articles about Shrier and her “Transgender peer contagion” theory over at Quillette.
    She’s a brave jewish gal.

    https://quillette.com/2020/11/07/gender-activists-are-trying-to-cancel-my-book-why-is-silicon-valley-helping-them/

  14. I’m sure China is looking forward to selling America millions of sets of strap-on genitals.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  15. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    Gen Z, the fresh meat, numbers seem really high. It used to be that owning up to being gay was a very bad thing indeed. Calling someone a fag is probably the single most popular putdown. So what happened? I would guess it’s the educational system conditioning bearing fruit after all these years. Wonder what’s in the “other” category.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @anonymous


    I would guess it’s the educational system conditioning bearing fruit after all these years.
     
    It is bearing fruits, indeed.
    , @anon
    @anonymous

    Gen Z, the fresh meat, numbers seem really high.

    Gay acceptance has been taught to Z's all their lives.

    It used to be that owning up to being gay was a very bad thing indeed.

    I watched the old 80's movie Clue with some millennial / z's. One of the characters admits that he's gay, everyone with me in the room was "So? What?". They didn't get how that could be blackmail material. Just didn't get it.

    , @dfordoom
    @anonymous


    Gen Z, the fresh meat, numbers seem really high. It used to be that owning up to being gay was a very bad thing indeed. Calling someone a fag is probably the single most popular putdown. So what happened?
     
    Social media is what happened.

    That's the main driving force. If you want to be popular on social media it's pretty much essential to be LGBTwhatever.

    That's why the trans epidemic has hit the young so hard. Young people are desperate to be popular on social media. They will do anything to get more "friends" and "likes" - anything at all.

    If you're a teenager and you admit to being heterosexual on social media you'll suffer massive defriending and you'll be labelled a Nazi.

    The really evil thing is not just social media, but the fact as a result of ubiquitous social media young people don't have much in the way of real-life social networks. Many don't have any real-life social networks at all. So they are incredibly vulnerable to pressure on social media.

    Social media may well be the greatest evil that has ever afflicted our civilisation.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  16. Should Gallup be releasing these polls during Black History Month? Shouldn’t they wait til June to inform the US on what to think regarding latest their latest identities?

    • Replies: @Old Prude
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Has this been the BEST black history month EVER, or what? What is taking the Iranians so long with that bomb?

    , @Jack D
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Just imagine if young people could choose to be black in the same way that they can choose to be LGBT (Rachel Dolezal showed that we are not yet ready for transracialism). What % of the current generation would pick black?

  17. I know an older man, a cultured gentleman with whom I’ve gone to the opera, whose wife wants to take him to the cleaners in a divorce. So she’s encouraging their teenage daughters to claim to be boys.

    I don’t get the connection. Isn’t there something missing between sentence 1 and 2?

    • Replies: @jon
    @Paperback Writer

    Yeah, I kind of expected this to be leading the gentleman being a closeted homosexual, not that his kids were (if mom gets her way) closeted cis-girls.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    , @J.Ross
    @Paperback Writer

    A lot of false child abuse claims come from divorce. The woman normally expects it will make the judge more sympathetic to her. Divorce is enormously destructive in many ways, but at least it enables lawyers to take money that productive members of society have earned by working.

    , @ES
    @Paperback Writer

    Mean, bitter, angry soon-to-be ex-wife?

  18. Differences are somewhat less pronounced by party identification than by ideology, with 8.8% of Democrats, 6.5% of independents and 1.7% of Republicans identifying as LGBT

    Eh, someone has to keep up a bar tab at Bullfeathers and run all those open-secret Swamptown scams with the cutesy props-to-the-16th President names (Log Cabin Republicans, Lincoln Project) .

    Breaking News! 4 major GOP operatives embroiled in leather-bondage S&M dungeon scandal! “I thought nothing of it when he said he’d be out all Friday at ‘The Great Emancipator’ …”

  19. The stats seem a bit of a mess. Especially as they admit that the overlapping categories total more than 100%. (How much more isn’t readily apparent).

    It’s also clear that “bisexual” self-identification among young females is the biggest driver of increased LGBT percentages. Is it just cool for girls to say they’re “bi” now? (Let’s face it, how many guys find that to be a big turn off in women). Or are they actually having these experiences? Enquiring minds want to know. And not just for prurient reasons.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    @Hypnotoad666

    All women were always either gay or bisexual, whether they admit it or not. No woman is truly straight. If you're female you're a part of the LGBT community, period.

    https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/are-all-women-bisexual-or-gay/

    This is inconvenient for Christians, etc, for obvious reasons.


    In international youth risk studies, up to 6% of heterosexual-identifying females report having had a same-sex experience before age 18. So the data indicating around 15% Gen Z bisexuality are probably an underestimate.

    Huge numbers of young teenage girls are hooking up with the same sex, and there's nothing you can do about it.

    See page 6, fig 3:


    https://psych.utah.edu/_resources/documents/people/diamond/Sexual%2520Fluidity%2520in%2520Males%2520and%2520Females.pdf

    (Note that the Swedish men were the least gay out of all the participants, a real thorn in the side for all the anti-Swedish closet fags on the Anglophone Far Right)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Half Canadian

    , @Wilkey
    @Hypnotoad666


    It’s also clear that “bisexual” self-identification among young females is the biggest driver of increased LGBT percentages. Is it just cool for girls to say they’re “bi” now? (Let’s face it, how many guys find that to be a big turn off in women).
     
    Yes. This was exactly my comment an an earlier thread. Silly girls, usually with liberal parents, are proclaiming themselves to be bisexual, mostly as an attention-getting or snowflake move. Very few of these girls will actually marry a woman, or even actually ever have sex with another woman.

    This is what happens when you start attacking and stop celebrating the importance of traditional family life.

    Our culture is insanely stupid. Or stupidly insane. Or both.

    Replies: @Anon, @Colin Wright, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    , @anon
    @Hypnotoad666

    Is it just cool for girls to say they’re “bi” now?

    Yeah, but women's sexuality is more fluid than men's is. It's not that unusual for a lesbian to have side affairs with men. Gay men with women? Nah.

    Plus as Altai wrote, Cluster B is what it is - NPC's likely especially prone.

    , @Radicalcenter
    @Hypnotoad666

    Horny as I was as a younger guy, I still would have been disgusted and uninterested in a woman who touts a desire to engage in perversion with other women.

  20. @anonymous
    Gen Z, the fresh meat, numbers seem really high. It used to be that owning up to being gay was a very bad thing indeed. Calling someone a fag is probably the single most popular putdown. So what happened? I would guess it's the educational system conditioning bearing fruit after all these years. Wonder what's in the "other" category.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @anon, @dfordoom

    I would guess it’s the educational system conditioning bearing fruit after all these years.

    It is bearing fruits, indeed.

    • LOL: Rob, Nachum, Old Prude
  21. Many moons ago when my sons were in their teens I used to take them to hardcore (music) shows. Many times some of their friends would come along especially if the show was far away. We would often drive into Chicago for shows at the Bottom Lounge. It was a bar with an upstairs where bands would play. They had under 21 shows which started early in the evening and were cleared out by 10:00 or 11:00. We saw some really good shows there. Tower of Rome, Throwdown. and Most Precious Blood among others.

    I noticed peculiar behavior among some of the teen girls who attended the shows. There was lots of hand holding and kissing. I thought this odd. I figured this was meant to shock and draw attention. Oddly enough I recall seeing this in Chicago but not at the suburban venues we attended.

  22. How much of the drop-off in gays across generations is differential mortality? Gays die a lot.

    • Replies: @Radicalcenter
    @Bill

    Not sure that lesbian sexual practices are as physically dangerous (both traumatic and infectious) as male homosexual practices. Therefore, not sure that lesbian sexual “lifestyle” tends to shorten one’s life as much as male homo practices.

    Replies: @Bill

  23. So she’s encouraging their teenage daughters to claim to be boys.

    Teenage boys are in great need of fathers. So he should get custody.

  24. How long before Gallup starts asking people if they like to bugger pigs and goats?

    There was a time and not that long ago that if you didn’t want homosexuals teaching your teenage children in the classroom because you were suspicious about a recruitment program this was dismissed out of hand as ignorant hysteria. Now of course you go on the ADL-FBI terror watch list if you say that.

    It is a long book and no picnic to read but E. Michael Jones Libido Dominandi is a valuable resource.

    At the moment Amazon is not carrying any of his books. : (

    Not Barnes and Noble either.

    • Thanks: Guest29048
  25. @Hypnotoad666
    The stats seem a bit of a mess. Especially as they admit that the overlapping categories total more than 100%. (How much more isn't readily apparent).

    It's also clear that "bisexual" self-identification among young females is the biggest driver of increased LGBT percentages. Is it just cool for girls to say they’re "bi" now? (Let's face it, how many guys find that to be a big turn off in women). Or are they actually having these experiences? Enquiring minds want to know. And not just for prurient reasons.

    Replies: @JohnPlywood, @Wilkey, @anon, @Radicalcenter

    All women were always either gay or bisexual, whether they admit it or not. No woman is truly straight. If you’re female you’re a part of the LGBT community, period.

    https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/are-all-women-bisexual-or-gay/

    This is inconvenient for Christians, etc, for obvious reasons.

    In international youth risk studies, up to 6% of heterosexual-identifying females report having had a same-sex experience before age 18. So the data indicating around 15% Gen Z bisexuality are probably an underestimate.

    Huge numbers of young teenage girls are hooking up with the same sex, and there’s nothing you can do about it.

    See page 6, fig 3:

    https://psych.utah.edu/_resources/documents/people/diamond/Sexual%2520Fluidity%2520in%2520Males%2520and%2520Females.pdf

    (Note that the Swedish men were the least gay out of all the participants, a real thorn in the side for all the anti-Swedish closet fags on the Anglophone Far Right)

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @JohnPlywood


    All women were always either gay or bisexual, whether they admit it or not. No woman is truly straight.

     

    Alright, ladies of iSteve, get out your claw hammers and take this Plywood apart.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_o0LEjN1WM&t=1m09s

    Replies: @JohnPlywood

    , @Mr. Anon
    @JohnPlywood


    (Note that the Swedish men were the least gay out of all the participants, a real thorn in the side for all the anti-Swedish closet fags on the Anglophone Far Right)
     
    There are none. I don't expect anything else you said in that post is any more correct than that. I don't recall that you've ever written a true sentence in the entire time you've been posting here. You're an idiot.

    Replies: @JohnPlywood, @The Soft Parade

    , @Half Canadian
    @JohnPlywood

    That UoU link is dead.

    Replies: @JohnPlywood

  26. @Hypnotoad666
    The stats seem a bit of a mess. Especially as they admit that the overlapping categories total more than 100%. (How much more isn't readily apparent).

    It's also clear that "bisexual" self-identification among young females is the biggest driver of increased LGBT percentages. Is it just cool for girls to say they’re "bi" now? (Let's face it, how many guys find that to be a big turn off in women). Or are they actually having these experiences? Enquiring minds want to know. And not just for prurient reasons.

    Replies: @JohnPlywood, @Wilkey, @anon, @Radicalcenter

    It’s also clear that “bisexual” self-identification among young females is the biggest driver of increased LGBT percentages. Is it just cool for girls to say they’re “bi” now? (Let’s face it, how many guys find that to be a big turn off in women).

    Yes. This was exactly my comment an an earlier thread. Silly girls, usually with liberal parents, are proclaiming themselves to be bisexual, mostly as an attention-getting or snowflake move. Very few of these girls will actually marry a woman, or even actually ever have sex with another woman.

    This is what happens when you start attacking and stop celebrating the importance of traditional family life.

    Our culture is insanely stupid. Or stupidly insane. Or both.

    • Agree: 3g4me
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Wilkey

    LGBT are more likely to be people of color:


    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/black-gays-lgbt-community_n_1989859


    According to the report, released by Gallup earlier this week, 4.6 percent of African Americans responded “yes” when asked if they identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender, along with four percent of Hispanics, 4.3 percent of Asians and 3.2 percent of Caucasians.
     

    Replies: @Brant

    , @Colin Wright
    @Wilkey

    ' Silly girls, usually with liberal parents, are proclaiming themselves to be bisexual, mostly as an attention-getting or snowflake move. Very few of these girls will actually marry a woman, or even actually ever have sex with another woman.'

    My suspicion is that it's the only rationale they have left for the perfectly normal ambivalence women have when it comes to casual heterosexual sex.

    They can't claim they don't have sexual desires. They're not 'saving themselves for marriage.' There's no reason to fear pregnancy. So what do they tell themselves?

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Wilkey


    This is what happens when you start attacking and stop celebrating the importance of traditional family life.

    Our culture is insanely stupid. Or stupidly insane. Or both.
     
    Homosexuals make a terrific social revolutionary vanguard, because they're generally disconnected from their family/community/tribe/nation by virtue of rejecting its mores and in turn being rejected. They're historically without fathers and without issue - and therefore they're never invested in the society as it exists.

    The homosexual is also the perfect globohomo producer-consumer unit (which they'd like us all to be) - atomized, without family, hedonistic, while fixated on fashion, material/sensuous luxury, and meaningless drama.
  27. Anon[157] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey
    @Hypnotoad666


    It’s also clear that “bisexual” self-identification among young females is the biggest driver of increased LGBT percentages. Is it just cool for girls to say they’re “bi” now? (Let’s face it, how many guys find that to be a big turn off in women).
     
    Yes. This was exactly my comment an an earlier thread. Silly girls, usually with liberal parents, are proclaiming themselves to be bisexual, mostly as an attention-getting or snowflake move. Very few of these girls will actually marry a woman, or even actually ever have sex with another woman.

    This is what happens when you start attacking and stop celebrating the importance of traditional family life.

    Our culture is insanely stupid. Or stupidly insane. Or both.

    Replies: @Anon, @Colin Wright, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    LGBT are more likely to be people of color:

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/black-gays-lgbt-community_n_1989859

    According to the report, released by Gallup earlier this week, 4.6 percent of African Americans responded “yes” when asked if they identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender, along with four percent of Hispanics, 4.3 percent of Asians and 3.2 percent of Caucasians.

    • Replies: @Brant
    @Anon

    The margin of error are huge, there is no good data indicating “people of colour” are more likely to be LGBT. It’s all in the female category too.

  28. The same bureaucrats proclaiming Stay Home Save Lives and Mask Up Save Lives also proclaim gender is a choice and not immutable biological reality. They’re on your team, Sailer.

    Own it, bitch.

  29. Anon[369] • Disclaimer says:

    No doubt THC and cannabis psychosis plays a part. And marijuana fucks up your 🧠 and 🧬

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/12/181219075846.htm

    Date:
    December 19, 2018

    Source:
    Duke University Medical Center

    Summary:
    New research suggests men in their child-bearing years should consider how THC could impact their sperm and possibly the children they conceive during periods when they’ve been using the drug. Much like previous research that has shown tobacco smoke, pesticides, flame retardants and even obesity can alter sperm, the new research shows THC also affects epigenetics, triggering structural and regulatory changes in the DNA of users’ sperm.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @Anon

    Yes, but does pot CAUSE the crazy, or is it smoked BECAUSE of the crazy?

    I'd love to see someone disentangle that, even in a superficial way.

    Another question: Will pot affect your hormones? I hear people criticizing soy as being estrogenic, and so they won't touch it. What about the weed? Will that give you man-boobs or softer whiskers?

    Replies: @Anon, @Paperback Writer

  30. anon[351] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    Gen Z, the fresh meat, numbers seem really high. It used to be that owning up to being gay was a very bad thing indeed. Calling someone a fag is probably the single most popular putdown. So what happened? I would guess it's the educational system conditioning bearing fruit after all these years. Wonder what's in the "other" category.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @anon, @dfordoom

    Gen Z, the fresh meat, numbers seem really high.

    Gay acceptance has been taught to Z’s all their lives.

    It used to be that owning up to being gay was a very bad thing indeed.

    I watched the old 80’s movie Clue with some millennial / z’s. One of the characters admits that he’s gay, everyone with me in the room was “So? What?”. They didn’t get how that could be blackmail material. Just didn’t get it.

  31. Transgender and the bisexual catch-all are up dramatically among the young and vulnerable.

    Transgender and the bisexual catch-all are up dramatically among young girls with cluster B personality disorders. The increase in boys has been comparatively modest.

    These are the figures for Britain and Ireland.

    Britain.
    Ireland.
    Same pattern in the Netherlands, Australia, Sweden and I’m sure others but those are the two plots I could find quickly.

    Fixed that for you.

    Notice how the figure for gay men has barely budged. 90% of the time when somebody proclaims themselves to be ‘bisexual’ it’s a girl or very young woman. And most of the time it isn’t true and is done for the same reasons Niki Minaj did it.

    • Thanks: Dieter Kief
    • Replies: @Nico
    @Altai


    Notice how the figure for gay men has barely budged. 90% of the time when somebody proclaims themselves to be ‘bisexual’ it’s a girl or very young woman. And most of the time it isn’t true and is done for the same reasons Niki Minaj did it.
     
    One of the more telling examples of this cynicism is Miley Cyrus's claim to be "pansexual" and "gender-fluid." She's had numerous boyfriends, been married two years to a man and dated two women, at moments years apart, for a couple months each. For someone as fucked up as she tries to appear she's awfully straight.
  32. @Hypnotoad666
    The stats seem a bit of a mess. Especially as they admit that the overlapping categories total more than 100%. (How much more isn't readily apparent).

    It's also clear that "bisexual" self-identification among young females is the biggest driver of increased LGBT percentages. Is it just cool for girls to say they’re "bi" now? (Let's face it, how many guys find that to be a big turn off in women). Or are they actually having these experiences? Enquiring minds want to know. And not just for prurient reasons.

    Replies: @JohnPlywood, @Wilkey, @anon, @Radicalcenter

    Is it just cool for girls to say they’re “bi” now?

    Yeah, but women’s sexuality is more fluid than men’s is. It’s not that unusual for a lesbian to have side affairs with men. Gay men with women? Nah.

    Plus as Altai wrote, Cluster B is what it is – NPC’s likely especially prone.

  33. Traditional way to achieve happiness: pursue the Middle Path. Two examples:

    Buddha: To achieve liberation cultivate the middle way of moderation between
    the extremes of sensual indulgence and self-mortification.

    Aristotle: To achieve happiness pursue a life of virtue, i.e., moderation in
    all things (Principle of Golden Mean). Catholic ethics is in many ways
    Aristotelian virtue ethics. It stresses the cultivation of virtue and balance
    in all areas of life.

    20th century: Forget about the Buddha or Aristotle. Unfortunately,
    the problem is that moderation requires a great deal of repression.
    To a large extent, the LGBT movement stems from the claim that repression
    (esp. sexual repression) is a major source of unhappiness in life. Solution:
    De-repression in all areas of life. Wilhelm Reich: There is no problem in life
    that a good orgasm will not solve. If it feels good, do it. If you feel like yelling,
    screaming, and cursing, by all means, scream, curse, and shout, let it all hang out!
    Remember Primal Scream Therapy? If you put it to music, you pretty much
    get Punk Music. Masturbation used to be considered one of the greatest evils
    to which young men were prone, until Kinsey in the late 1940s found that
    about 60% of unmarried young men masturbate. It then became difficult to
    condemn a practice that is enthusiastically pursued by the majority of young
    men. It was easy to extend this permissive attitude to other formerly forbidden
    practices like gay and lesbian sex. Has sexual de-repression made us happier?
    That’s a good question, and I leave that to others to answer

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    @Anon 2

    "Masturbation used to be considered one of the greatest evils to which young men were prone, until Kinsey in the late 1940s found that about 60% of unmarried young men masturbate. It then became difficult to condemn a practice that is enthusiastically pursued by the majority of young men."

    This seems to be the nub of it (if you will). Now, if some 60% of UYM are indulging, then the "repression" couldn't have been that successful. Should we amp it up? Or, as you imply, is that a reason to say, well, fuggedaboutit. After all, 1940s society is pretty much the ideal here at Unz, so what's the problem? OR, does it only "work" if we continue the repression, although 60% don't seem to bother. See what I mean? Do we have to pretend it's the greatest of evils, though we know it doesn't really matter, because if we admit it's OK, everything goes keflooey? Eg., Plato's noble lie, Leo Strauss's esoteric gentlemen vs. the rabble, etc.

    If the subject offends you, substitute "prohibition of alcohol." That not only gave us organized crime, but smoothed the way of the Jews into polite society. Worth it?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @bomag, @Anonymous Jew

  34. Too many conversations, many of them nuttier than a fruitcake, are started by left wingers. I try avert my eyes/ears.

    Dr. Paul attempted to start conversations about free markets and peaceful foreign relations. He was largely ignored.

    Whenever I try to begin a conversation about SN-1 reactions, leftists call me a racist, and rightists mistake it for a new missile system.

    • LOL: Voltarde
    • Replies: @Rob
    @Abolish_public_education


    Whenever I try to begin a conversation about SN-1 reactions, leftists call me a racist, and rightists mistake it for a new missile system.
     
    Backside attack? Sounds rather, um, well...ya know, a bit...
    , @kaganovitch
    @Abolish_public_education

    Too many conversations, many of them nuttier than a fruitcake, are started by left wingers. I try avert my eyes/ears.

    To paraphrase Trotsky "You may not be interested in fruitcake but fruitcake is interested in you."

  35. @Simon Snowlock
    Only white engage in this behavior.

    That tells you something right there

    Replies: @jon, @Reg Cæsar, @Bardon Kaldian, @Radicalcenter, @Dissident, @gent

    Only white engage in this behavior.

    Most stats I’ve seen say the opposite:

    The relative rank order of the LGBT percentages among these four race and ethnic groups has remained roughly the same over the last several years. At 6.1%, Hispanics continue to be the single race or ethnic group most likely to identify as LGBT, while the 4.0 % of whites who identify as LGBT remains the lowest. LGBT identification among blacks and Asians, 4.9% and 5.0%, respectively, is essentially midway between the estimates for Hispanics and whites.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/234863/estimate-lgbt-population-rises.aspx (a 2018 poll, but the newest that popped up in my search).

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @jon



    Only white engage in this behavior.

     

    Most stats I’ve seen say the opposite
     
    All races engage in it, but only whites celebrate it. Or enshrine it in law:


    https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/FT_19.10.22_SSMsnapshot640px.png?w=640

    Replies: @jon, @JohnnyWalker123

  36. How much of this increase is real? Non-hetero is very trendy on the left, especially with women, I’d be interested in how many of the bisexual women have say, never dated women, and never plan to date women. Exceptions made for threesomes to please a chad.

    There are non-genetic influences on sexual orientation, but we don’t know what they are, except for the fraternal birth order effect, because for male identical twins, when one is gay, the is gay like 20% of the time. Non-genetic does not mean non-biological, so gay germ theory is still the one to beat. I guess developmental noise could be a source, but one would think evolution would have built organisms that were canalized. Probably they are, in an environment that is long gone.

    A possibility is that normal development happens normally, but the modern American environment is so novel that it is uncovering a lot of previously cryptic variation. I would like to see a survey of lbgt by year of birth for Amish and people who left Amishism. Are they Amishish? They probably have the most historically normal developmental environment. OTOH, they are genetically becoming more Amishy, so maybe we can’t extrapolate from them.

    Much like that one lunatic’s ‘gay frogs’, I wonder if all the evolutionarily novel chemicals we are pumping into the environment are not taking a developmental toll. Insects populations are declining. But it could be cultural. I think kids are both more isolated and constantly in contact with their peer group by smartphone. Maybe they are getting even less of the human contact people need to fulfill genetically programmed development?

    There is also the obesity epidemic. This likely has direct hormonal effects and social effects. There are a bunch of people who do not get positive feedback sociosexually, or who never receive positive attention from the opposite sex. I would like to know lgbt/none status by BMI and gender.

    It has been proposed that their are two types of gay men, under-androgenized and hyper-androgenised. Are the ratios of the two changing over time?

    None of this is to say that lgbt’s shouldn’t have all the rights everyone else has. The same applies to autism. They should be as accommodated as possible. But the rates of both are increasing, I would like to know why.

    Gen X’s oldest would have been twenty is 1985, a year where HIV infection was high for gay men. I wonder if the see a dearth of gays relative to lesbians for people who were young adults at the height of infection. If the survey does not show that, I would not trust it on anything else.

    • Replies: @Brant
    @Rob

    Gay germ makes no sense to me because it’s only to apply to men, yet female homosexuality is equally discordant in twins. It implies that it’s something stochastic in brain development very early on (in uterine environment or shortly after) which creates an opposite sex brain structure. The germ thing also makes no sense because men don’t suddenly become gay, nor do little boys suddenly ‘turn feminine’ which would be a sure indicator of a germ. Mothers would be horrified if that were true. In reality, they notice their boys act more like girls as soon as they start expressing themselves. The germ theory needs to go in the bin. Cochran was foolish on that front.

    Replies: @bomag, @JMcG, @Morton's toes, @e

  37. Anonymous[370] • Disclaimer says:
    @S. Anonyia
    Very disturbing that there are more self-identified transgenders than lesbians among 2 generational cohorts.

    More disturbing to ponder how many more of them consider themselves non binary.

    And you’re right, a lot of these changes are due to social pressures on young women. They are calling masculine girls “non binaries” or boys, as if there weren’t popular books about written since the Victorian era, like Little Women or Caddie Woodlawn. Culprit for the slight rise in LGBT identification among men is likely pornsickness.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @william munny

    >Very disturbing that there are more self-identified transgenders than lesbians among 2 generational cohorts.

    The numbers are astounding any way you look at it but likely a lot of this is explained by the proliferation in meaningless ‘third’ genders available for self-survey. ‘Queer,’ ‘Gender non-conforming,’ ‘bi-gender,’ etc. Essentially fashion statements. Not all of them are medically transitioning with hormones and surgery.

    • Replies: @jon
    @Anonymous


    likely a lot of this is explained by the proliferation in meaningless ‘third’ genders available for self-survey
     
    It would be interesting to get a breakdown of all of the "trans" into what specific gender they are claiming, including whether this alternative gender identity will involve any hormones or surgeries. Same for the bi/poly/pan category - how many of them are having actual sexual relations with multiple genders, and how often (i.e. is it just some one time adventure, and then they are 'bi' for life).

    I agree that a lot of this increase is probably just being fashionable. If homosexuals struggled to marry and have a family, even when failing to do so meant death or something else horrible, then it seems unlikely that straights are suddenly able to go the opposite direction long-term just because of peer-pressure.

    Replies: @Dissident

    , @dfordoom
    @Anonymous


    The numbers are astounding any way you look at it but likely a lot of this is explained by the proliferation in meaningless ‘third’ genders available for self-survey. ‘Queer,’ ‘Gender non-conforming,’ ‘bi-gender,’ etc. Essentially fashion statements.
     
    Yep. I agree.

    And those fashions are driven almost entirely by social media. Take social media out of the equation and the proportion of Zoomers who were LGBT would drop to around 1%.

    Every generation uses social media but the younger you are the more dependent you are on social media for your sense of self-worth, and for a sense of belonging. This is especially true for women because women have a greater need for social approval.

    A Boomer will be mildly upset (or possibly just amused) if she gets defriended on social media. An 18-year-old might well kill herself.

    So for Zoomers (especially Zoomer women) the best defence against the almost unimaginable terror of being defriended is to pretend to be LGBTwhatever by identifying as gender non-conforming. That means she gets to keep her social media friends and she can continue to get lots of Likes but she can still have sex exclusively with men.

    The real danger is that these vulnerable young people can succumb to social media pressure to start taking puberty-blockers, which will end up ruining their whole lives.
  38. For some interesting reading on the whole T-bone issue … and lots of issues tangential to it — read this article from today’s VDare.com, as well as the articles cited therein … lots of interesting stuff (assuming it’s true/valid) …

    Lots to see here and in the cited articles about not only T-bone folks, but on birth order, autism, etc.

    https://vdare.com/articles/how-many-divisions-have-the-transsexuals

  39. @Paperback Writer

    I know an older man, a cultured gentleman with whom I’ve gone to the opera, whose wife wants to take him to the cleaners in a divorce. So she’s encouraging their teenage daughters to claim to be boys.

     

    I don't get the connection. Isn't there something missing between sentence 1 and 2?

    Replies: @jon, @J.Ross, @ES

    Yeah, I kind of expected this to be leading the gentleman being a closeted homosexual, not that his kids were (if mom gets her way) closeted cis-girls.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @jon

    LOL, I got that feeling too but you & I were reading too much into this.

  40. @Anonymous
    @S. Anonyia

    >Very disturbing that there are more self-identified transgenders than lesbians among 2 generational cohorts.

    The numbers are astounding any way you look at it but likely a lot of this is explained by the proliferation in meaningless 'third' genders available for self-survey. 'Queer,' 'Gender non-conforming,' 'bi-gender,' etc. Essentially fashion statements. Not all of them are medically transitioning with hormones and surgery.

    Replies: @jon, @dfordoom

    likely a lot of this is explained by the proliferation in meaningless ‘third’ genders available for self-survey

    It would be interesting to get a breakdown of all of the “trans” into what specific gender they are claiming, including whether this alternative gender identity will involve any hormones or surgeries. Same for the bi/poly/pan category – how many of them are having actual sexual relations with multiple genders, and how often (i.e. is it just some one time adventure, and then they are ‘bi’ for life).

    I agree that a lot of this increase is probably just being fashionable. If homosexuals struggled to marry and have a family, even when failing to do so meant death or something else horrible, then it seems unlikely that straights are suddenly able to go the opposite direction long-term just because of peer-pressure.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @jon

    I concur fully with all that you have written, up until the following, which, while not necessarily disagreeing with, would challenge somewhat. Or at least add to.


    If homosexuals struggled to marry and have a family, even when failing to do so meant death or something else horrible, then it seems unlikely that straights are suddenly able to go the opposite direction long-term just because of peer-pressure.
     
    Granted, for an individual for whom the directions of his sexual attraction is unambiguous, it would indeed hardly seem plausible that he would be able to transform them on a dime.*

    But what about individuals whose sexual feelings may be confused or conflicting, especially adolescents still in their formative years? Is there not a real danger that the mere act of publicly "coming-out" and identifying oneself sexually can influence one's subsequent behavior and even desires? For, is it not axiomatic that whenever one labels oneself as belonging-to a particular identity-- be it an ideological, social, religious, or (as in this case), sexual identity, one then becomes beholden to it, and (often perhaps subconsciously) chooses and tailors both his views and public positions, as well as his behaviors, in order to conform with it?

    I have seen comments online in which an individual who identified as Gay suggested that it was not inconceivable to him that he might be able to enjoy sexual intimacy with a woman, but then added something along the lines of, "But at this point, I've identified and lived as gay for so long that I can't see myself 'changing sides'." The implication, at least, was that the barriers and inhibitions to exploring heterosexuality were not so much anything inherent in their biology or psyche but rather (and even almost entirely) social, political and even ideological.

    Would we not do best to encourage and advise young people to at least delay labeling themselves sexually?

    *Though the absolute insistence, mandated by the prevailing orthodoxy (political, social, psychiatric, educational, etc.), that no one who finds himself exclusively attracted to the same sex can ever achieve even a considerable degree of success in redirecting their desires toward the opposite-sex, would clearly appear to be little more than a doctrinaire assertion. At the very least, there would appear to be considerable anecdotal evidence that given sufficient determination and commitment, at least some such individuals could at least reach a degree of transformation in their proclivities sufficient to enable the establishment and maintaining of a successful sexual relationship with a member of the opposite sex. There may be clinical evidence as well. The problem, of course, is that the prevailing Woke orthodoxy does not permit any honest, objective investigation in this area-- one in which the only results accepted are those that confirm what are predetermined conclusions.

    Consider, as well, the case of John Maynard Keynes, as presented by none other than our gracious host himself, Mr. Steve Sailer, back in this 2013 piece.


    Keynes (1883-1946) betrayed today’s conventional wisdom by doing the supposedly impossible: he converted, permanently, from a homosexual lifestyle to a heterosexual lifestyle when—to the shock and dismay of his former Bloomsbury boyfriends—he married the popular ballerina Lydia Lopokova in 1925.

    He wasn’t under any particular social or career pressure at the time. He just switched his affections.
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @dfordoom, @Paperback Writer

  41. @Wilkey
    @Hypnotoad666


    It’s also clear that “bisexual” self-identification among young females is the biggest driver of increased LGBT percentages. Is it just cool for girls to say they’re “bi” now? (Let’s face it, how many guys find that to be a big turn off in women).
     
    Yes. This was exactly my comment an an earlier thread. Silly girls, usually with liberal parents, are proclaiming themselves to be bisexual, mostly as an attention-getting or snowflake move. Very few of these girls will actually marry a woman, or even actually ever have sex with another woman.

    This is what happens when you start attacking and stop celebrating the importance of traditional family life.

    Our culture is insanely stupid. Or stupidly insane. Or both.

    Replies: @Anon, @Colin Wright, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    ‘ Silly girls, usually with liberal parents, are proclaiming themselves to be bisexual, mostly as an attention-getting or snowflake move. Very few of these girls will actually marry a woman, or even actually ever have sex with another woman.’

    My suspicion is that it’s the only rationale they have left for the perfectly normal ambivalence women have when it comes to casual heterosexual sex.

    They can’t claim they don’t have sexual desires. They’re not ‘saving themselves for marriage.’ There’s no reason to fear pregnancy. So what do they tell themselves?

    • Thanks: AnotherDad
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Colin Wright


    My suspicion is that it’s the only rationale they have left for the perfectly normal ambivalence women have when it comes to casual heterosexual sex.

    They can’t claim they don’t have sexual desires. They’re not ‘saving themselves for marriage.’ There’s no reason to fear pregnancy. So what do they tell themselves?
     
    Good observation CW.

    No doubt some of this is just emotional girls who have had bad experiences with boys/men, or simply do not like the confused/pathological "dating" environment that is available to them. All this queer stuff is just a big rejection of that.


    Job #1, of course, is destroying minoritarianism in all its forms and closing down immigration. But after that we have a lot of repair work to do. A healthy nation channels young men and women into healthy fertile marriages.

    The whole national culture should be one that:
    -- teaches boys and girls what is important in life from a young age
    -- helps build decent character and quashes the snowflakes
    -- encourages--and helps--young men and women to find each other
    -- but gives young men and women the tools to rationally assess a decent fit and to have the patience to avoid sexual activity until that fit is found
    -- strongly encourages solid young couples to get married
    -- encourages decent (3+ kids) fertility for healthy/high-character/productive couples with good marriages (eugenic fertility)

    We should be getting a lot better leadership from churches. And colleges ... holy cow, what a disaster.
  42. @Anon 2
    Traditional way to achieve happiness: pursue the Middle Path. Two examples:

    Buddha: To achieve liberation cultivate the middle way of moderation between
    the extremes of sensual indulgence and self-mortification.

    Aristotle: To achieve happiness pursue a life of virtue, i.e., moderation in
    all things (Principle of Golden Mean). Catholic ethics is in many ways
    Aristotelian virtue ethics. It stresses the cultivation of virtue and balance
    in all areas of life.

    20th century: Forget about the Buddha or Aristotle. Unfortunately,
    the problem is that moderation requires a great deal of repression.
    To a large extent, the LGBT movement stems from the claim that repression
    (esp. sexual repression) is a major source of unhappiness in life. Solution:
    De-repression in all areas of life. Wilhelm Reich: There is no problem in life
    that a good orgasm will not solve. If it feels good, do it. If you feel like yelling,
    screaming, and cursing, by all means, scream, curse, and shout, let it all hang out!
    Remember Primal Scream Therapy? If you put it to music, you pretty much
    get Punk Music. Masturbation used to be considered one of the greatest evils
    to which young men were prone, until Kinsey in the late 1940s found that
    about 60% of unmarried young men masturbate. It then became difficult to
    condemn a practice that is enthusiastically pursued by the majority of young
    men. It was easy to extend this permissive attitude to other formerly forbidden
    practices like gay and lesbian sex. Has sexual de-repression made us happier?
    That’s a good question, and I leave that to others to answer

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    “Masturbation used to be considered one of the greatest evils to which young men were prone, until Kinsey in the late 1940s found that about 60% of unmarried young men masturbate. It then became difficult to condemn a practice that is enthusiastically pursued by the majority of young men.”

    This seems to be the nub of it (if you will). Now, if some 60% of UYM are indulging, then the “repression” couldn’t have been that successful. Should we amp it up? Or, as you imply, is that a reason to say, well, fuggedaboutit. After all, 1940s society is pretty much the ideal here at Unz, so what’s the problem? OR, does it only “work” if we continue the repression, although 60% don’t seem to bother. See what I mean? Do we have to pretend it’s the greatest of evils, though we know it doesn’t really matter, because if we admit it’s OK, everything goes keflooey? Eg., Plato’s noble lie, Leo Strauss’s esoteric gentlemen vs. the rabble, etc.

    If the subject offends you, substitute “prohibition of alcohol.” That not only gave us organized crime, but smoothed the way of the Jews into polite society. Worth it?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Peter D. Bredon

    Both Casanova and Dali have passages where they mention that the first time they did it, they immediately resolved to never do it again. Talking about the repression of masturbation is like doddering elderly Hugh Hewitt babbling about how important it is to imprison potsmokers. The entirety of the sexual aspect of the societal collapse is no-fault divorce. Return shame to divorce, not masturbation. Once people are married they'll be masturbating soon enough anyway, but they won't be isolated rootless megacorp fodder.

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Peter D. Bredon, @James O'Meara

    , @bomag
    @Peter D. Bredon

    Now, if some 60% of UYM are indulging, then the “repression” couldn’t have been that successful. Should we amp it up?

    Does not have to be repression. We could do a far better job of incentivizing people to invest their sexual energy into long term monogamous relationships; generally have the highest self reported lifetime happiness by a significant margin.

    , @Anonymous Jew
    @Peter D. Bredon


    After all, 1940s society is pretty much the ideal here at Unz
     
    Meh, maybe the demographics/ segregation and lack of Diversity. Northern Europe after the economic reforms but before the migrant crisis looks pretty good to me. And they were relatively libertine. A small amount of progressivism seems OK so long as the population is homogeneous and high IQ. On the other hand, it’s fair to conclude that the current year is the inevitable result of the same progressivism. Perhaps 1990’s Sweden is not something that’s sustainable for very long, even in a world where migrants don’t exist. It was Western Civilization’s high before the hangover. And now we just have AIDS.

    How do seemingly harmless proscriptions tie into other evils? Does Burkean conservatism have a point? Is it like broken windows policing? We’re not noble savages, and a little bit of repression is good, even if the crime is victimless. It’s the glue that holds us together. But too much gives you women in burkas and 50 lashings for sneaking a sip of liquor.

    I keep on going back to Camille Paglia’s finding that as civilizations collapse cultural representations of gender become more androgynous followed by gender confusion. As if it’s not already obvious that we’re on some predestined path of self destruction that’s happened many times before. It’s proof enough that we’ve gone too far.

  43. @Paperback Writer

    I know an older man, a cultured gentleman with whom I’ve gone to the opera, whose wife wants to take him to the cleaners in a divorce. So she’s encouraging their teenage daughters to claim to be boys.

     

    I don't get the connection. Isn't there something missing between sentence 1 and 2?

    Replies: @jon, @J.Ross, @ES

    A lot of false child abuse claims come from divorce. The woman normally expects it will make the judge more sympathetic to her. Divorce is enormously destructive in many ways, but at least it enables lawyers to take money that productive members of society have earned by working.

    • Thanks: Paperback Writer
  44. @Mike_from_SGV
    13 percent of liberals are in that category? Over 1 in 8, wow.
    Of course, what is the exact definition or criterion of lgb? A mere feeling that may or may not be acted on? Or active banging? I can easily imagine someone claiming to be "b" to gain DIE points, but without it changing their actual personal life.

    Replies: @BigTex, @Dissident

    Right, I would only trust the people who are actually in active mating relationships. The rest are undersexed and desperate, confused.

    • Agree: Paperback Writer
  45. You’re way off. The current gay trend started with David Bowie. In 1974, Castro Street was just a street with a movie theater and one little gay pizza place. 1975 and it was like it is now. Think rat-tails and keys.

    Oh, oops, but that’s right. You guys like David Bowie. With your charming execrable taste. Sorry.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @obwandiyag

    You know, I’ve been accused of a great deal here, but to be accused of liking David Bowie? That’s a step too far!

    , @Paperback Writer
    @obwandiyag

    See the movie "Velvet Goldmine."

    In the beginning of the movie a girl is asked whether she cares if her boyfriend has sex with other guys. She laughs and says "no." I thought to myself, "Try that in real life."

    Christian Bale plays a gay glam-rock journalist. It's his only bad performance. The guy can't play gay. I think he was overcompensating by playing "not stereotypically gay" but it just came off as bland and not believable.

  46. @Abolish_public_education
    Too many conversations, many of them nuttier than a fruitcake, are started by left wingers. I try avert my eyes/ears.

    Dr. Paul attempted to start conversations about free markets and peaceful foreign relations. He was largely ignored.

    Whenever I try to begin a conversation about SN-1 reactions, leftists call me a racist, and rightists mistake it for a new missile system.

    Replies: @Rob, @kaganovitch

    Whenever I try to begin a conversation about SN-1 reactions, leftists call me a racist, and rightists mistake it for a new missile system.

    Backside attack? Sounds rather, um, well…ya know, a bit…

  47. @Abolish_public_education
    Too many conversations, many of them nuttier than a fruitcake, are started by left wingers. I try avert my eyes/ears.

    Dr. Paul attempted to start conversations about free markets and peaceful foreign relations. He was largely ignored.

    Whenever I try to begin a conversation about SN-1 reactions, leftists call me a racist, and rightists mistake it for a new missile system.

    Replies: @Rob, @kaganovitch

    Too many conversations, many of them nuttier than a fruitcake, are started by left wingers. I try avert my eyes/ears.

    To paraphrase Trotsky “You may not be interested in fruitcake but fruitcake is interested in you.”

  48. @Simon Snowlock
    Only white engage in this behavior.

    That tells you something right there

    Replies: @jon, @Reg Cæsar, @Bardon Kaldian, @Radicalcenter, @Dissident, @gent

    • LOL: Another Canadian
  49. @jon
    @Simon Snowlock


    Only white engage in this behavior.
     
    Most stats I've seen say the opposite:

    The relative rank order of the LGBT percentages among these four race and ethnic groups has remained roughly the same over the last several years. At 6.1%, Hispanics continue to be the single race or ethnic group most likely to identify as LGBT, while the 4.0 % of whites who identify as LGBT remains the lowest. LGBT identification among blacks and Asians, 4.9% and 5.0%, respectively, is essentially midway between the estimates for Hispanics and whites.
     
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/234863/estimate-lgbt-population-rises.aspx (a 2018 poll, but the newest that popped up in my search).

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Only white engage in this behavior.

    Most stats I’ve seen say the opposite

    All races engage in it, but only whites celebrate it. Or enshrine it in law:

    • Replies: @jon
    @Reg Cæsar

    Sad but true. This seems to be a universal truth about White people, not just a gay thing. Fewer weirdos, but they have more power.

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Reg Cæsar

    Your map shows that gay marriage has made huge inroads in Latin America, as well as Taiwan and South Africa. No such luck in Eastern Europe.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  50. @jon
    @Paperback Writer

    Yeah, I kind of expected this to be leading the gentleman being a closeted homosexual, not that his kids were (if mom gets her way) closeted cis-girls.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    LOL, I got that feeling too but you & I were reading too much into this.

  51. The most significant data is buried in the last table where it shows that gay and lesbian identification has actually hardly moved the needle, going from barely there at all among Traditionalists, to slightly less than barely there with Gen Z.
    It’s plausible that the Traditionalists are more reluctant to admit they homosexual, and so in reality the percentage of gay and lesbians in the population has probably never effectively changed in 70 years, despite the saturation propaganda.
    The only thing that has really changed is that younger people are taking the bisexual cop-out to try be with it and avoid being called Practically A Nazi, plus peer and educational pressure are making the transsexual dysfunction hip.

    • Replies: @Intensifier
    @Alfa158

    I agree with you Alfa. In crude terms what percentage of these "non binary" and "bisexual" and "pansexual" boys actually regularly engage in anal penetration? No more than 50 years ago I suspect and a small fraction of the vast number claiming to be non-heterosexual.

    The remarkable this is that such a high percentage of kids still define as hetero despite the cost free option to be hip and non fascist given by answering a survey.

    , @JMcG
    @Alfa158

    Exactly- the media has been feeding us the idea that homosexuals are 10% of the population for decades. Now I see that the incidence of homosexuality has risen to 5.6%
    I’d really like to see what the numbers for eating disorders in young women have done over the same period.

  52. @Anon
    @Wilkey

    LGBT are more likely to be people of color:


    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/black-gays-lgbt-community_n_1989859


    According to the report, released by Gallup earlier this week, 4.6 percent of African Americans responded “yes” when asked if they identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender, along with four percent of Hispanics, 4.3 percent of Asians and 3.2 percent of Caucasians.
     

    Replies: @Brant

    The margin of error are huge, there is no good data indicating “people of colour” are more likely to be LGBT. It’s all in the female category too.

  53. @Rob
    How much of this increase is real? Non-hetero is very trendy on the left, especially with women, I’d be interested in how many of the bisexual women have say, never dated women, and never plan to date women. Exceptions made for threesomes to please a chad.

    There are non-genetic influences on sexual orientation, but we don’t know what they are, except for the fraternal birth order effect, because for male identical twins, when one is gay, the is gay like 20% of the time. Non-genetic does not mean non-biological, so gay germ theory is still the one to beat. I guess developmental noise could be a source, but one would think evolution would have built organisms that were canalized. Probably they are, in an environment that is long gone.

    A possibility is that normal development happens normally, but the modern American environment is so novel that it is uncovering a lot of previously cryptic variation. I would like to see a survey of lbgt by year of birth for Amish and people who left Amishism. Are they Amishish? They probably have the most historically normal developmental environment. OTOH, they are genetically becoming more Amishy, so maybe we can’t extrapolate from them.

    Much like that one lunatic’s ‘gay frogs’, I wonder if all the evolutionarily novel chemicals we are pumping into the environment are not taking a developmental toll. Insects populations are declining. But it could be cultural. I think kids are both more isolated and constantly in contact with their peer group by smartphone. Maybe they are getting even less of the human contact people need to fulfill genetically programmed development?

    There is also the obesity epidemic. This likely has direct hormonal effects and social effects. There are a bunch of people who do not get positive feedback sociosexually, or who never receive positive attention from the opposite sex. I would like to know lgbt/none status by BMI and gender.

    It has been proposed that their are two types of gay men, under-androgenized and hyper-androgenised. Are the ratios of the two changing over time?

    None of this is to say that lgbt’s shouldn’t have all the rights everyone else has. The same applies to autism. They should be as accommodated as possible. But the rates of both are increasing, I would like to know why.

    Gen X’s oldest would have been twenty is 1985, a year where HIV infection was high for gay men. I wonder if the see a dearth of gays relative to lesbians for people who were young adults at the height of infection. If the survey does not show that, I would not trust it on anything else.

    Replies: @Brant

    Gay germ makes no sense to me because it’s only to apply to men, yet female homosexuality is equally discordant in twins. It implies that it’s something stochastic in brain development very early on (in uterine environment or shortly after) which creates an opposite sex brain structure. The germ thing also makes no sense because men don’t suddenly become gay, nor do little boys suddenly ‘turn feminine’ which would be a sure indicator of a germ. Mothers would be horrified if that were true. In reality, they notice their boys act more like girls as soon as they start expressing themselves. The germ theory needs to go in the bin. Cochran was foolish on that front.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Brant


    It implies that it’s something stochastic in brain development very early on (in uterine environment or shortly after) which creates an opposite sex brain structure.
     
    Some pathogens learn to exploit immune weakness in fetal development: the "crossover" between depending on mom's immunity and building their own immune system.

    Just sayin'.

    Replies: @Brant

    , @JMcG
    @Brant

    Perhaps such a germ expresses as transgenderism if one is infected later in life? Maybe not gay, but it sure looks like it. Obviously I’m just spitballing here.

    Replies: @Brant

    , @Morton's toes
    @Brant


    In reality, they notice their boys act more like girls as soon as they start expressing themselves.
     
    Both of the homosexuals from the neighborhood where I grew up did not display any of this behavior.

    I swear the most hilarious politically incorrect thing I ever saw Camile Paglia write or hear her say was that boys in grammar school on the lookout for catching cooties from some of their taunted peers was that cooties were the homosexual germ and those little boys knew something that everybody else tried to ignore.

    Replies: @Brant

    , @e
    @Brant

    Judging by what you've said, it appears you know of Cochran and his hypothesis, but haven't actually read what he says about the pathogen and when it likely strikes.

    Replies: @Brant

  54. @JohnPlywood
    @Hypnotoad666

    All women were always either gay or bisexual, whether they admit it or not. No woman is truly straight. If you're female you're a part of the LGBT community, period.

    https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/are-all-women-bisexual-or-gay/

    This is inconvenient for Christians, etc, for obvious reasons.


    In international youth risk studies, up to 6% of heterosexual-identifying females report having had a same-sex experience before age 18. So the data indicating around 15% Gen Z bisexuality are probably an underestimate.

    Huge numbers of young teenage girls are hooking up with the same sex, and there's nothing you can do about it.

    See page 6, fig 3:


    https://psych.utah.edu/_resources/documents/people/diamond/Sexual%2520Fluidity%2520in%2520Males%2520and%2520Females.pdf

    (Note that the Swedish men were the least gay out of all the participants, a real thorn in the side for all the anti-Swedish closet fags on the Anglophone Far Right)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Half Canadian

    All women were always either gay or bisexual, whether they admit it or not. No woman is truly straight.

    Alright, ladies of iSteve, get out your claw hammers and take this Plywood apart.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    @Reg Cæsar

    If you are female you are a part of the LGBT community. End of discussion.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-34744903


    No woman 'totally straight', study says
     

    Replies: @anon

  55. @Reg Cæsar
    @jon



    Only white engage in this behavior.

     

    Most stats I’ve seen say the opposite
     
    All races engage in it, but only whites celebrate it. Or enshrine it in law:


    https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/FT_19.10.22_SSMsnapshot640px.png?w=640

    Replies: @jon, @JohnnyWalker123

    Sad but true. This seems to be a universal truth about White people, not just a gay thing. Fewer weirdos, but they have more power.

  56. @Alfa158
    The most significant data is buried in the last table where it shows that gay and lesbian identification has actually hardly moved the needle, going from barely there at all among Traditionalists, to slightly less than barely there with Gen Z.
    It’s plausible that the Traditionalists are more reluctant to admit they homosexual, and so in reality the percentage of gay and lesbians in the population has probably never effectively changed in 70 years, despite the saturation propaganda.
    The only thing that has really changed is that younger people are taking the bisexual cop-out to try be with it and avoid being called Practically A Nazi, plus peer and educational pressure are making the transsexual dysfunction hip.

    Replies: @Intensifier, @JMcG

    I agree with you Alfa. In crude terms what percentage of these “non binary” and “bisexual” and “pansexual” boys actually regularly engage in anal penetration? No more than 50 years ago I suspect and a small fraction of the vast number claiming to be non-heterosexual.

    The remarkable this is that such a high percentage of kids still define as hetero despite the cost free option to be hip and non fascist given by answering a survey.

  57. The weak aversion to gays is cancelling cable after having enjoyed 90s-era Bravo, the true aversion to gays is officially identifying as bi and then individually rejecting every guy who hits on you.

  58. @Reg Cæsar
    @JohnPlywood


    All women were always either gay or bisexual, whether they admit it or not. No woman is truly straight.

     

    Alright, ladies of iSteve, get out your claw hammers and take this Plywood apart.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_o0LEjN1WM&t=1m09s

    Replies: @JohnPlywood

    If you are female you are a part of the LGBT community. End of discussion.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-34744903

    No woman ‘totally straight’, study says

    • Replies: @anon
    @JohnPlywood


    If you are female you are a part of the LGBT community. End of discussion.

     

    Project much?
    This creepy Plywood character has just outed itself as some variety of sex deviant.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  59. @Peter D. Bredon
    @Anon 2

    "Masturbation used to be considered one of the greatest evils to which young men were prone, until Kinsey in the late 1940s found that about 60% of unmarried young men masturbate. It then became difficult to condemn a practice that is enthusiastically pursued by the majority of young men."

    This seems to be the nub of it (if you will). Now, if some 60% of UYM are indulging, then the "repression" couldn't have been that successful. Should we amp it up? Or, as you imply, is that a reason to say, well, fuggedaboutit. After all, 1940s society is pretty much the ideal here at Unz, so what's the problem? OR, does it only "work" if we continue the repression, although 60% don't seem to bother. See what I mean? Do we have to pretend it's the greatest of evils, though we know it doesn't really matter, because if we admit it's OK, everything goes keflooey? Eg., Plato's noble lie, Leo Strauss's esoteric gentlemen vs. the rabble, etc.

    If the subject offends you, substitute "prohibition of alcohol." That not only gave us organized crime, but smoothed the way of the Jews into polite society. Worth it?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @bomag, @Anonymous Jew

    Both Casanova and Dali have passages where they mention that the first time they did it, they immediately resolved to never do it again. Talking about the repression of masturbation is like doddering elderly Hugh Hewitt babbling about how important it is to imprison potsmokers. The entirety of the sexual aspect of the societal collapse is no-fault divorce. Return shame to divorce, not masturbation. Once people are married they’ll be masturbating soon enough anyway, but they won’t be isolated rootless megacorp fodder.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @J.Ross

    No fault divorce is bad, but the divorce rate was already sky-rocketing when those laws were changed. The politicians said they were just making things easier for all these combative divorces, or for those people who were trapped in a marriage they didn't want.

    I think you have to go to social acceptability of divorce. Remember when Scarlett tells Rhett she won't agree to a divorce because it would disgrace her family? Well there's your dilemma. Isn't it disgraceful for a husband to be off with other women while they're still married? Wouldn't it be better to just get a divorce and be done with the scamp? But somehow that covenant meant more than faithfulness. Keeping the union, no matter the violations, was paramount.

    You tell me which is better. Permanent marriage with gross hypocrisy, or easy and rampant divorce.
    I'll go with the no divorce option (as tough as it is).

    , @Peter D. Bredon
    @J.Ross

    I suppose Casanova invested his energy in seduction, Dali in painting and general nuttiness; seem to be the two main ways to "sublimate" ones urges. Marriage would be better for society.

    On MST3k, the answer the the titular question, "Are You Ready for Marriage" is "Yeah, I'm sick of having sex anyway."

    https://youtu.be/KxhC-ZLlCyc

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @James O'Meara
    @J.Ross

    "The Power of Positive Fapping:
    Napoleon Hill, Salesman & Sex Magickian"

    https://counter-currents.com/2019/12/the-power-of-positive-fapping/

  60. Steven, just like you point out the trans and bi percentages have skyrocketed, you also need to point out that the gay and lesbian categories had modest increases that most likely correspond to the fact that coming out is much safer and accepted than it used to be. It’s not very “cultured-man-who-goes-to-opera”-like to make headlines like this that suggest gays and lesbians recruit kids. I know you like to expose disingenuous agenda-driven liars and hypocrites like the NYT, but don’t let them rub off on you.

  61. @Peter D. Bredon
    @Anon 2

    "Masturbation used to be considered one of the greatest evils to which young men were prone, until Kinsey in the late 1940s found that about 60% of unmarried young men masturbate. It then became difficult to condemn a practice that is enthusiastically pursued by the majority of young men."

    This seems to be the nub of it (if you will). Now, if some 60% of UYM are indulging, then the "repression" couldn't have been that successful. Should we amp it up? Or, as you imply, is that a reason to say, well, fuggedaboutit. After all, 1940s society is pretty much the ideal here at Unz, so what's the problem? OR, does it only "work" if we continue the repression, although 60% don't seem to bother. See what I mean? Do we have to pretend it's the greatest of evils, though we know it doesn't really matter, because if we admit it's OK, everything goes keflooey? Eg., Plato's noble lie, Leo Strauss's esoteric gentlemen vs. the rabble, etc.

    If the subject offends you, substitute "prohibition of alcohol." That not only gave us organized crime, but smoothed the way of the Jews into polite society. Worth it?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @bomag, @Anonymous Jew

    Now, if some 60% of UYM are indulging, then the “repression” couldn’t have been that successful. Should we amp it up?

    Does not have to be repression. We could do a far better job of incentivizing people to invest their sexual energy into long term monogamous relationships; generally have the highest self reported lifetime happiness by a significant margin.

  62. Eh, more likely the young simply have no problem affirming what they really are versus the older have a net worth and relationships at stake, so they’re not taking any chances with getting “outed” by some random survey, plus those liberals who simply want to go along with current fashion, as others have noted. It’s such a fluid label, were all the soldiers experimenting during WWII really “gay?” If you get away from such binaries and actually quiz people on numbers of sexual experiences with each gender, that would be much more meaningful than these silly binary “identity” surveys and likely show much more fluidity.

  63. LOL America has moved from Flag veneration to fag veneration.

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Ed
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    Lt governor of PA, running for senate:
    https://twitter.com/johnfetterman/status/1364600978658512902?s=21

  64. @Simon Snowlock
    Only white engage in this behavior.

    That tells you something right there

    Replies: @jon, @Reg Cæsar, @Bardon Kaldian, @Radicalcenter, @Dissident, @gent

    I think you are wrong.

    Actually, the highest trans m>f “movement” is among mulattoes in Brazil & yellow-brown people in Indo-China.

    Perhaps 80% of the transgenderistas are m>f, and mulattoes absolutely dominate. Why are mulattoes so into it, I am clueless….

    Some links not exactly corroborating this, but still …

    https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/race-ethnicity-trans-adults-us/

    Race and Ethnicity of Adults Who Identify as Transgender in the United States

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5227939/

    Transgender Demographics: A Household Probability Sample of US Adults, 2014

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-81411-4

    Proportion of people identified as transgender and non-binary gender in Brazil

    https://raceandequality.org/english/brazil-is-the-country-with-the-greatest-number-of-assassinations-of-trans-persons-in-the-world/

    Brazil is the country with the greatest number of assassinations of trans persons in the world

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Thanks for those links. It totally accords with what I've seen in NYC. Now I'd love to see if there are any numbers on kids.

    You've got a link for trans adults - logically I'd assume that the #s for trans kids, which is what we're discussing, is even more extreme. But we don't know for sure unless we get the numbers.

    Asso: let's weight these percentages. Black Americans are 12% of the adult population but 16% of the transgender population. Hispanics, 15/21.

    That makes a big difference visually.

  65. @Brant
    @Rob

    Gay germ makes no sense to me because it’s only to apply to men, yet female homosexuality is equally discordant in twins. It implies that it’s something stochastic in brain development very early on (in uterine environment or shortly after) which creates an opposite sex brain structure. The germ thing also makes no sense because men don’t suddenly become gay, nor do little boys suddenly ‘turn feminine’ which would be a sure indicator of a germ. Mothers would be horrified if that were true. In reality, they notice their boys act more like girls as soon as they start expressing themselves. The germ theory needs to go in the bin. Cochran was foolish on that front.

    Replies: @bomag, @JMcG, @Morton's toes, @e

    It implies that it’s something stochastic in brain development very early on (in uterine environment or shortly after) which creates an opposite sex brain structure.

    Some pathogens learn to exploit immune weakness in fetal development: the “crossover” between depending on mom’s immunity and building their own immune system.

    Just sayin’.

    • Replies: @Brant
    @bomag

    Sure, but it’s not supposed to apply to women because the whole concept is that the pathogen destroys male typical structure reverting the male to a female typical attraction circuit. How would female homosexual twin discordance come about? Oh, hormones in utero? So now the hormonal theory of homosexuality is plausible again. I just think the pathogen idea is dumb AF because gay face seems to be real and gays are so fem/neurotic that it’s a lot more cognitive overhaul than just some tiny region for attraction.

    Replies: @Nico

  66. Every woman I’ve been intimate with has admitted to same sex fantasies. I assume men are the same. I’ve fantasised about using nuclear bombs to blow up the world, while I watch from orbit and laugh as everyone burns. Such things are part of who everyone is. I suspect a lot of the increase in LGBT identification is young women merely being open about such fantasies, perhaps to receive social credit of some kind.

    On the other hand, I have noticed a fair few younger women who seem to have decided that sexual drive is male. They are then prone to needing to act as males sexually and in their fantasies, as that is the thought pattern they have fallen into. They also tend to be most likely to rail against patriarchy and the male gaze. Often they were shy as early teens or developed a bit later. They are often trying very hard to get in touch with what they consider to be their feminine side, including sleeping with other women. Really, for completeness, they just need to meet a man who can competently embody that ideal for them or, paradoxically, go do some activities that they associate as unhealthily masculine, probably like hunting or whatever, so that they can realise that the sexual drive is not the male preserve and that they therefore need not see themselves as masculine because they like sex. Of course they could just remain without their own feminine sense of sexuality and therefore feel compelled to find in their sexual partners. There’s no harm done, but it does feel like a sin of ommision.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Not Only Wrathful

    I have heard that as well. One thing apparently is that with the widespread 'pornification' of adolescence and with sexually explicit material available to everyone, girls see all this stuff and think, "What's one way out? I know, I'll be a boy!"

    Also, while before being a girl wanting to play softball meant you were a tomboy, now it means you might possibly be transgender.

    I suspect a few of the less masculine boys might also see a way out of being the hated 'cishet straight guy'--after all, they weren't so good at that, might as well flirt with a few guys and join the LGBTQ team. Sounds weird to anyone Gen-X and over, but never underestimate the need of teenagers to have a peer group.

    , @Old Prude
    @Not Only Wrathful

    "I’ve fantasised about using nuclear bombs to blow up the world, while I watch from orbit and laugh as everyone burns." LOL for that part.

    , @James O'Meara
    @Not Only Wrathful

    "Every woman I’ve been intimate with has admitted to same sex fantasies. I assume men are the same."

    Perhaps not quite your point, but I've long thought this explained, or at least express, why many/most women might have same-sex fantasies but few men:

    https://youtu.be/a9v8hcAezkk

  67. Saw a nice guardian clip on Hungary’s attempt to boost its fertility rate. At least they’re trying. The West is sick but there are pockets of hope.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Ed


    Saw a nice guardian clip on Hungary’s attempt to boost its fertility rate. At least they’re trying. The West is sick but there are pockets of hope.
     
    And of course they are being excoriated for it:

    https://www.facebook.com/60minutes/posts/10158083597294395
  68. @Grahamsno(G64)
    LOL America has moved from Flag veneration to fag veneration.

    Replies: @Ed

    Lt governor of PA, running for senate:

  69. @Anon
    The thing I don't get about F-to-M trannies is that if they really had the brain of a male you'd think they'd know that a guy's biggest nightmare might well be not having a dick. But that's what they want to become.

    If the choice were presented to me of having my dick and balls cut off, or having my brain put in the body of a woman, a real from-birth woman, I gotta tell ya, I think I'd become the chick.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

    A lot of MtF trannies apparently skip the painful part of “transitioning”.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Redneck farmer


    A lot of MtF trannies apparently skip the painful part of “transitioning”.
     
    Yeah, if these morons want to be treated as females, then they should cut off their dick and balls at least. Otherwise they're just larping. They strike me as angry people who just want to humiliate others by making them acknowledge and celebrate their braveness.

    FOAD. And take the resentful blacks with you.
  70. @bomag
    @Brant


    It implies that it’s something stochastic in brain development very early on (in uterine environment or shortly after) which creates an opposite sex brain structure.
     
    Some pathogens learn to exploit immune weakness in fetal development: the "crossover" between depending on mom's immunity and building their own immune system.

    Just sayin'.

    Replies: @Brant

    Sure, but it’s not supposed to apply to women because the whole concept is that the pathogen destroys male typical structure reverting the male to a female typical attraction circuit. How would female homosexual twin discordance come about? Oh, hormones in utero? So now the hormonal theory of homosexuality is plausible again. I just think the pathogen idea is dumb AF because gay face seems to be real and gays are so fem/neurotic that it’s a lot more cognitive overhaul than just some tiny region for attraction.

    • Replies: @Nico
    @Brant

    Conventional wisdom has it that at least among men "there's no such thing as bisexual," that "suck one cock and you're always a cocksucker," etc. I don't think this is quite correct but the results of numerous observational studies and anecdotes are certainly consistent with the position that female sexuality is far more fluid than male sexuality, which is about as close as we're likely to get to a biological basis for saying men are usually heterosexual and sometimes gay; women are usually bisexual and sometimes lesbian.

    Note I say "biological basis," as opposed to a social self-identification basis. We would have expected - and the figures here seem to confirm - that a disproportionate share of the heightened "LGB" part of the increased identification of LGBT has to do with a much larger increase in women who in a more structured society would choose exclusively men choosing now to identify as bisexual. (I would note the lesbian self-identification doesn't seem to have increased faster than the gay self-identification, so the effect of such women identifying as lesbian for purely political reasons probably isn't very significant.)

  71. I know an older man, a cultured gentleman with whom I’ve gone to the opera, whose wife wants to take him to the cleaners in a divorce. So she’s encouraging their teenage daughters to claim to be boys.

    And you wonder why men are reluctant to get married and form families these days.

    (I agree with the rest of your post and there isn’t much else I have to say about it that the other commenters haven’t already said.)

  72. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Should Gallup be releasing these polls during Black History Month? Shouldn't they wait til June to inform the US on what to think regarding latest their latest identities?

    Replies: @Old Prude, @Jack D

    Has this been the BEST black history month EVER, or what? What is taking the Iranians so long with that bomb?

    • LOL: AnotherDad
  73. @Not Only Wrathful
    Every woman I've been intimate with has admitted to same sex fantasies. I assume men are the same. I've fantasised about using nuclear bombs to blow up the world, while I watch from orbit and laugh as everyone burns. Such things are part of who everyone is. I suspect a lot of the increase in LGBT identification is young women merely being open about such fantasies, perhaps to receive social credit of some kind.

    On the other hand, I have noticed a fair few younger women who seem to have decided that sexual drive is male. They are then prone to needing to act as males sexually and in their fantasies, as that is the thought pattern they have fallen into. They also tend to be most likely to rail against patriarchy and the male gaze. Often they were shy as early teens or developed a bit later. They are often trying very hard to get in touch with what they consider to be their feminine side, including sleeping with other women. Really, for completeness, they just need to meet a man who can competently embody that ideal for them or, paradoxically, go do some activities that they associate as unhealthily masculine, probably like hunting or whatever, so that they can realise that the sexual drive is not the male preserve and that they therefore need not see themselves as masculine because they like sex. Of course they could just remain without their own feminine sense of sexuality and therefore feel compelled to find in their sexual partners. There's no harm done, but it does feel like a sin of ommision.

    Replies: @SFG, @Old Prude, @James O'Meara

    I have heard that as well. One thing apparently is that with the widespread ‘pornification’ of adolescence and with sexually explicit material available to everyone, girls see all this stuff and think, “What’s one way out? I know, I’ll be a boy!”

    Also, while before being a girl wanting to play softball meant you were a tomboy, now it means you might possibly be transgender.

    I suspect a few of the less masculine boys might also see a way out of being the hated ‘cishet straight guy’–after all, they weren’t so good at that, might as well flirt with a few guys and join the LGBTQ team. Sounds weird to anyone Gen-X and over, but never underestimate the need of teenagers to have a peer group.

    • Agree: Not Only Wrathful
  74. @JohnnyWalker123
    The growth of bisexuality, transgenderism, and lesbianism is very evident among younger women. Not just here in North America, but even in Europe too.

    There are surveys that have shown a significant fall in sexual activity among young men, along with an even more significant fall in the teen pregnancy rate. However, there is a less notable decline in sexual activity among young women. Which doesn't make sense. The data points seem contradictory.

    What can explain this enigma?

    Lots of young women are exploring sexual relations with the same gender. There's been a huge uptick in same-sex activity among younger women in recent years. So they're still sexually active, but not necessarily with boys.

    In a lot of youth music these days, you hear a male singer talking about how his favorite girl is "into girls" now and avoiding boys.

    Listen to this contemporary song from "The Weeknd." He's an ultra popular singer from Toronto. In this song, he talks about how he likes a girl and wants to have raunchy sex with her. However, this girl has temporarily abandoned boys to become a lesbian, in order to avoid getting her heart broken.

    Listen 1:15-1:25.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDWLMNyBpZ4

    Replies: @Malenfant, @The Wild Geese Howard, @ken, @e, @Intensifier

    There are surveys that have shown a significant fall in sexual activity among young men, along with an even more significant fall in the teen pregnancy rate. However, there is a less notable decline in sexual activity among young women. Which doesn’t make sense. The data points seem contradictory.

    What can explain this enigma?

    This is easy.

    Apps like Tinder and the rise of hook-up culture have made things much easier for the top 10% of young men, and much more difficult for average or below-average young men. So the chads are having much more sex, the young women are sated, and yet there are a lot more incels than there used to be…

    It’s not lesbianism, which in truth hardly even exists.

    • Replies: @Not Only Wrathful
    @Malenfant

    A lot of men used to sleep with a small proportion of women. Those women were called prostitutes, usually because they received money as part of the exchange. Now a lot of women sleep with a small proportion of men, and those men are called chads, because they don't receive money as part of the exchange.

    The above is a mere value-free observation. Interesting, huh?

    This could be explained in millions of ways. I am familiar with the Just So evopsych stories liked on sites like this and, obviously, I am familiar with the SJW "please just let me be psychotic" apologias, but it does seem like it would be good for everyone if women could have a bit less shame about enjoying desiring and men could have a bit less shame about enjoying being desired.

    Both are enjoyable and both sexes do in fact enjoy both, but the lies we tell ourselves do also present as social problems...

    Replies: @Anonymous Jew

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Malenfant

    Except there's been a huge fall in the teen pregnancy rate, indicating less female heterosexual sex.

    Replies: @Bill P

  75. Nixon at his most prophetic. I’ve seen this video a few times.

    In a clip from the 1970s, Richard Nixon is heard complaining that the sitcom “All in the Family” glorifies homosexuality.

    The best parts..

    “Hot pants”
    “Jesus Christ…I didn’t think of that.”
    ………………..
    “He’s obviously queer–wears an ascot.”
    …………………………….
    “I don’t even want to shake hands with anyone from San Francisco.”
    ………………………………………………
    “You know what happened to the Popes….P-P-Popes were laying the nuns!” [Ehrlichman guffaws]

    Best comments:

    The American Storyteller

    This gave me more laughs than anything the Archbunker actually said. I was literally pounding the table in laughter while watching this dialogue.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Thank you, Bardon. I am now looking forward to watching this later on. Just from the jokes you have right here, I think a lot more of Nixon, seeing his sense of humor. That's not to say he wasn't a faux Conservative that just went with the flow to get elected. He was - Nixon, you funny bastard, I read Buchanan's book!

  76. @JohnnyWalker123
    The growth of bisexuality, transgenderism, and lesbianism is very evident among younger women. Not just here in North America, but even in Europe too.

    There are surveys that have shown a significant fall in sexual activity among young men, along with an even more significant fall in the teen pregnancy rate. However, there is a less notable decline in sexual activity among young women. Which doesn't make sense. The data points seem contradictory.

    What can explain this enigma?

    Lots of young women are exploring sexual relations with the same gender. There's been a huge uptick in same-sex activity among younger women in recent years. So they're still sexually active, but not necessarily with boys.

    In a lot of youth music these days, you hear a male singer talking about how his favorite girl is "into girls" now and avoiding boys.

    Listen to this contemporary song from "The Weeknd." He's an ultra popular singer from Toronto. In this song, he talks about how he likes a girl and wants to have raunchy sex with her. However, this girl has temporarily abandoned boys to become a lesbian, in order to avoid getting her heart broken.

    Listen 1:15-1:25.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDWLMNyBpZ4

    Replies: @Malenfant, @The Wild Geese Howard, @ken, @e, @Intensifier

    In a lot of youth music these days, you hear a male singer talking about how his favorite girl is “into girls” now and avoiding boys.

    Uh, dyke-pop is now a thing.

    Fletcher is just one of many examples:

  77. @Malenfant
    @JohnnyWalker123



    There are surveys that have shown a significant fall in sexual activity among young men, along with an even more significant fall in the teen pregnancy rate. However, there is a less notable decline in sexual activity among young women. Which doesn’t make sense. The data points seem contradictory.

    What can explain this enigma?

     

    This is easy.

    Apps like Tinder and the rise of hook-up culture have made things much easier for the top 10% of young men, and much more difficult for average or below-average young men. So the chads are having much more sex, the young women are sated, and yet there are a lot more incels than there used to be...

    It's not lesbianism, which in truth hardly even exists.

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful, @JohnnyWalker123

    A lot of men used to sleep with a small proportion of women. Those women were called prostitutes, usually because they received money as part of the exchange. Now a lot of women sleep with a small proportion of men, and those men are called chads, because they don’t receive money as part of the exchange.

    The above is a mere value-free observation. Interesting, huh?

    This could be explained in millions of ways. I am familiar with the Just So evopsych stories liked on sites like this and, obviously, I am familiar with the SJW “please just let me be psychotic” apologias, but it does seem like it would be good for everyone if women could have a bit less shame about enjoying desiring and men could have a bit less shame about enjoying being desired.

    Both are enjoyable and both sexes do in fact enjoy both, but the lies we tell ourselves do also present as social problems…

    • Replies: @Anonymous Jew
    @Not Only Wrathful

    Given the relative lack of diversity in male v female lineage, a relatively small number of men impregnating nearly all women has been the norm during most of our evolution. To put it another way, we’re descended from a lot of females and a relatively small amount of males. Biology really screwed up relations between the sexes.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O7nPkpdFAic

  78. @JohnPlywood
    @Reg Cæsar

    If you are female you are a part of the LGBT community. End of discussion.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-34744903


    No woman 'totally straight', study says
     

    Replies: @anon

    If you are female you are a part of the LGBT community. End of discussion.

    Project much?
    This creepy Plywood character has just outed itself as some variety of sex deviant.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @anon

    No, he did that when he wrote to me that Anni-Frid and Agnetha of ABBA were trannies.

  79. @obwandiyag
    You're way off. The current gay trend started with David Bowie. In 1974, Castro Street was just a street with a movie theater and one little gay pizza place. 1975 and it was like it is now. Think rat-tails and keys.

    Oh, oops, but that's right. You guys like David Bowie. With your charming execrable taste. Sorry.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Paperback Writer

    You know, I’ve been accused of a great deal here, but to be accused of liking David Bowie? That’s a step too far!

  80. @Alfa158
    The most significant data is buried in the last table where it shows that gay and lesbian identification has actually hardly moved the needle, going from barely there at all among Traditionalists, to slightly less than barely there with Gen Z.
    It’s plausible that the Traditionalists are more reluctant to admit they homosexual, and so in reality the percentage of gay and lesbians in the population has probably never effectively changed in 70 years, despite the saturation propaganda.
    The only thing that has really changed is that younger people are taking the bisexual cop-out to try be with it and avoid being called Practically A Nazi, plus peer and educational pressure are making the transsexual dysfunction hip.

    Replies: @Intensifier, @JMcG

    Exactly- the media has been feeding us the idea that homosexuals are 10% of the population for decades. Now I see that the incidence of homosexuality has risen to 5.6%
    I’d really like to see what the numbers for eating disorders in young women have done over the same period.

  81. @Brant
    @Rob

    Gay germ makes no sense to me because it’s only to apply to men, yet female homosexuality is equally discordant in twins. It implies that it’s something stochastic in brain development very early on (in uterine environment or shortly after) which creates an opposite sex brain structure. The germ thing also makes no sense because men don’t suddenly become gay, nor do little boys suddenly ‘turn feminine’ which would be a sure indicator of a germ. Mothers would be horrified if that were true. In reality, they notice their boys act more like girls as soon as they start expressing themselves. The germ theory needs to go in the bin. Cochran was foolish on that front.

    Replies: @bomag, @JMcG, @Morton's toes, @e

    Perhaps such a germ expresses as transgenderism if one is infected later in life? Maybe not gay, but it sure looks like it. Obviously I’m just spitballing here.

    • Replies: @Brant
    @JMcG


    Perhaps such a germ expresses as transgenderism if one is infected later in life? Maybe not gay, but it sure looks like it
     
    Have you read "The Man Who Would Be Queen" by J. Michael Bailey? He himself is on good terms with Cochran, and believes the germ theory has "evolutionary plausibility" but has big holes in it. Bailey writes about how transsexual men were often aroused by cross dressing from as young as 3. There was a case in Ken Zuckers office where a boy was pointing out womens underwear he wanted and had an erection. These straight men don't suddenly "turn trans", they actually just don't talk openly about their fetish for cross dressing as a woman... yet in every documented case there is a long hidden history of doing so. Attributing all atypical sexual interest to germs is getting ridiculous – from an evolutionary perspective transsexualism is no problem since 80% of them are still attracted to women and reproduce. It's easily explained by a mutation which is often passed from father to son.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  82. I think we need to take a deeper look into the people who answered “no opinion”

    • Agree: Dissident
  83. Young people love to seem trendy, act out, and remain free of criticism. Being a sexual degenerate is the straightest path to that, especially for whites.

  84. @Mr. Anon
    As you say, Steve, this is not by accident. Nor is it an organic societal development (unless it's due to the effects of certain environmental pollutants). It's part of a recruitment campaign - one that's been going on for at least forty years now.

    Replies: @Anon

    I’ve recommended this video before. Sailer has also mentioned A. Shrier. It’s worth watching.

    There’s several articles about Shrier and her “Transgender peer contagion” theory over at Quillette.
    She’s a brave jewish gal.

    https://quillette.com/2020/11/07/gender-activists-are-trying-to-cancel-my-book-why-is-silicon-valley-helping-them/

  85. @Brant
    @Rob

    Gay germ makes no sense to me because it’s only to apply to men, yet female homosexuality is equally discordant in twins. It implies that it’s something stochastic in brain development very early on (in uterine environment or shortly after) which creates an opposite sex brain structure. The germ thing also makes no sense because men don’t suddenly become gay, nor do little boys suddenly ‘turn feminine’ which would be a sure indicator of a germ. Mothers would be horrified if that were true. In reality, they notice their boys act more like girls as soon as they start expressing themselves. The germ theory needs to go in the bin. Cochran was foolish on that front.

    Replies: @bomag, @JMcG, @Morton's toes, @e

    In reality, they notice their boys act more like girls as soon as they start expressing themselves.

    Both of the homosexuals from the neighborhood where I grew up did not display any of this behavior.

    I swear the most hilarious politically incorrect thing I ever saw Camile Paglia write or hear her say was that boys in grammar school on the lookout for catching cooties from some of their taunted peers was that cooties were the homosexual germ and those little boys knew something that everybody else tried to ignore.

    • Replies: @Brant
    @Morton's toes

    It doesn't have to be extreme gender nonconformity, just elevated. Two of the gay males from my school were 'different' from the beginning at age 5. None of the boys treated them weirdly, and they occasionally hung out with us. None of us "caught" the gay off them. The fact that people on UNZ trot out Cochran's pseudoscience is laughable.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  86. In the 19th century, when wealthy Americans started sending their daughters off to college, lesbian romances blossomed across the land. Of course, they didn’t usually last (some things never change), but parental unease probably at least partly explains the trend toward co-education that gained steam in the 20th century.

    When you think about it, female and male sexuality are two sides of the same coin, so a certain amount of confusion is to be expected in youth. Ordinarily, human culture guides us toward the roles nature has chosen for us, but culture unmoored from reality can create confusion even among those without an underlying constitutional error.

    Such is our culture today.

    The social constructionists were half right: “gender” is in many ways a social construct. However, social constructs, when built correctly, follow the lay of the land. To ignore physical reality is to burden society with extra costs and dramatically reduce utility.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Bill P


    Of course, they didn’t usually last (some things never change), but parental unease probably at least partly explains the trend toward co-education that gained steam in the 20th century.
     
    Disagree. The lesbian thing during the era of single-sex 7S colleges is overblown. I had female relatives who went to 7S colleges in the 50s; they all married at age 22 and had kids and no, this wasn't LUG. Not at all.

    During college they studied hard, AND partied hard, going to the brother Ivy and down to NYC or up to Boston. They had it all: football games, the best libraries, the best of everything. Never has a generation of women had it so good.

    The bitter Millennials who hate Boomers should hate these gals. They are all pre-Boomer; I don't know what to call women who were born 1930-1946.

    Co-educationalism was simply part of the steam-roller, and not so ironically the schools that stayed single-sex became bastions of dykedom.

    Replies: @Hereward, @Nico, @JohnnyWalker123

    , @Peter D. Bredon
    @Bill P

    "The social constructionists were half right: “gender” is in many ways a social construct. However, social constructs, when built correctly, follow the lay of the land. To ignore physical reality is to burden society with extra costs and dramatically reduce utility."

    It's like they absorbed the whole social construction part of the old Progressive Movement, but left out the accompanying pragmatic test: we can design things better. I bet if you read those earlier guys -- Wells, Shaw, etc. -- there was a bunch of "marriage is an outworn institution that doesn't work any more, so let's experiment with redesigning it." "Progressives" today leave out that pragmatic test. Instead, they live in a fantasy land where whatever pleases or amusing them must be "right" and must be workable.

    Note that the old Progressives were pro-eugenics, the new ones hate it.

  87. @JohnnyWalker123
    The growth of bisexuality, transgenderism, and lesbianism is very evident among younger women. Not just here in North America, but even in Europe too.

    There are surveys that have shown a significant fall in sexual activity among young men, along with an even more significant fall in the teen pregnancy rate. However, there is a less notable decline in sexual activity among young women. Which doesn't make sense. The data points seem contradictory.

    What can explain this enigma?

    Lots of young women are exploring sexual relations with the same gender. There's been a huge uptick in same-sex activity among younger women in recent years. So they're still sexually active, but not necessarily with boys.

    In a lot of youth music these days, you hear a male singer talking about how his favorite girl is "into girls" now and avoiding boys.

    Listen to this contemporary song from "The Weeknd." He's an ultra popular singer from Toronto. In this song, he talks about how he likes a girl and wants to have raunchy sex with her. However, this girl has temporarily abandoned boys to become a lesbian, in order to avoid getting her heart broken.

    Listen 1:15-1:25.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDWLMNyBpZ4

    Replies: @Malenfant, @The Wild Geese Howard, @ken, @e, @Intensifier

    I’ve wondered how much porn has contributed to this. More women are viewing porn and it’s pretty nasty. So a young woman sees women being choked, slapped and every hole crammed with giant dongs. Who wants to give that a try? Especially if you’re viewing it in your teens. Then your not going to church, your teachers are telling you to try anything; what do you think is going to happen?

  88. I can see hope here for a reboot for a failed politician, though at some cost.

    NY Mayor Bill de Blasio AKA Warren Wilhelm Jr. AKA Warren de Blasio-Wilhelm is a man of such overwhelming masculine sexuality that he can cure lesbianism.

    https://observer.com/2012/12/the-lesbian-past-of-bill-de-blasios-wife/

    There are a few things he can do with this, the top one is of course getting a TV show
    “The Dyke Whisperer”.

    The cost is that that would involve actually doing some work for a living, but then his political career is over anyway.

  89. @Anon
    No doubt THC and cannabis psychosis plays a part. And marijuana fucks up your 🧠 and 🧬

    https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/342/bmj.d738/F3.large.jpg

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/12/181219075846.htm

    Date:
    December 19, 2018

    Source:
    Duke University Medical Center

    Summary:
    New research suggests men in their child-bearing years should consider how THC could impact their sperm and possibly the children they conceive during periods when they've been using the drug. Much like previous research that has shown tobacco smoke, pesticides, flame retardants and even obesity can alter sperm, the new research shows THC also affects epigenetics, triggering structural and regulatory changes in the DNA of users' sperm.

     

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    Yes, but does pot CAUSE the crazy, or is it smoked BECAUSE of the crazy?

    I’d love to see someone disentangle that, even in a superficial way.

    Another question: Will pot affect your hormones? I hear people criticizing soy as being estrogenic, and so they won’t touch it. What about the weed? Will that give you man-boobs or softer whiskers?

    • Replies: @Anon
    @stillCARealist

    https://www.amazon.com/Tell-Your-Children-Marijuana-Violence/dp/1982103663

    Pretty good. I skimmed/read it, so don’t remember about hormones. But many things impact hormonal balance so it could be an issue.

    Cocaine is also reputed to “make” men gay 😂. Which means heavy users are not only desinhibited, but that there is un “unfolding of the personality” that makes such behavior possible. Or so ex-dealers day.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    , @Paperback Writer
    @stillCARealist

    I'm no expert, having retired from the weed and all other chemicals, including nicotine (except the occasional drink) long ago, but it's my impression that male potheads are passive dudes w/"issues" to begin with, and the weed compounds & exacerbates their issues.

    The pot being sold today is way stronger than the stuff sold when I was a kid. I believe Berenson goes into that as well, although I haven't read his book. Too depressing.

  90. @Simon Snowlock
    Only white engage in this behavior.

    That tells you something right there

    Replies: @jon, @Reg Cæsar, @Bardon Kaldian, @Radicalcenter, @Dissident, @gent

    Tell that to the many, many lesbian mestiza “Latina” young women waddling around Los Angeles. Also, let’s ignore the widespread “down low” homosexual culture within the African-“American” “community.”

  91. @J.Ross
    @Peter D. Bredon

    Both Casanova and Dali have passages where they mention that the first time they did it, they immediately resolved to never do it again. Talking about the repression of masturbation is like doddering elderly Hugh Hewitt babbling about how important it is to imprison potsmokers. The entirety of the sexual aspect of the societal collapse is no-fault divorce. Return shame to divorce, not masturbation. Once people are married they'll be masturbating soon enough anyway, but they won't be isolated rootless megacorp fodder.

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Peter D. Bredon, @James O'Meara

    No fault divorce is bad, but the divorce rate was already sky-rocketing when those laws were changed. The politicians said they were just making things easier for all these combative divorces, or for those people who were trapped in a marriage they didn’t want.

    I think you have to go to social acceptability of divorce. Remember when Scarlett tells Rhett she won’t agree to a divorce because it would disgrace her family? Well there’s your dilemma. Isn’t it disgraceful for a husband to be off with other women while they’re still married? Wouldn’t it be better to just get a divorce and be done with the scamp? But somehow that covenant meant more than faithfulness. Keeping the union, no matter the violations, was paramount.

    You tell me which is better. Permanent marriage with gross hypocrisy, or easy and rampant divorce.
    I’ll go with the no divorce option (as tough as it is).

  92. @Hypnotoad666
    The stats seem a bit of a mess. Especially as they admit that the overlapping categories total more than 100%. (How much more isn't readily apparent).

    It's also clear that "bisexual" self-identification among young females is the biggest driver of increased LGBT percentages. Is it just cool for girls to say they’re "bi" now? (Let's face it, how many guys find that to be a big turn off in women). Or are they actually having these experiences? Enquiring minds want to know. And not just for prurient reasons.

    Replies: @JohnPlywood, @Wilkey, @anon, @Radicalcenter

    Horny as I was as a younger guy, I still would have been disgusted and uninterested in a woman who touts a desire to engage in perversion with other women.

  93. I doubt that most of this percentage is really gay, meaning, the kind of guy who came out flaming in the 1970s. Or the Tim Cook type: basically an “I don’t want to be bothered with emotions” nerd-autist.

    Most of it is affect.

    But it’s still bad. It’s evidence of a poor self-identity and zero boundaries. They’ll have a hard time reintegrating later on.

  94. @Bill
    How much of the drop-off in gays across generations is differential mortality? Gays die a lot.

    Replies: @Radicalcenter

    Not sure that lesbian sexual practices are as physically dangerous (both traumatic and infectious) as male homosexual practices. Therefore, not sure that lesbian sexual “lifestyle” tends to shorten one’s life as much as male homo practices.

    • Replies: @Bill
    @Radicalcenter

    Good point, but women are also more malleable, so that decline is easier to explain.

  95. @Bill P
    In the 19th century, when wealthy Americans started sending their daughters off to college, lesbian romances blossomed across the land. Of course, they didn't usually last (some things never change), but parental unease probably at least partly explains the trend toward co-education that gained steam in the 20th century.

    When you think about it, female and male sexuality are two sides of the same coin, so a certain amount of confusion is to be expected in youth. Ordinarily, human culture guides us toward the roles nature has chosen for us, but culture unmoored from reality can create confusion even among those without an underlying constitutional error.

    Such is our culture today.

    The social constructionists were half right: "gender" is in many ways a social construct. However, social constructs, when built correctly, follow the lay of the land. To ignore physical reality is to burden society with extra costs and dramatically reduce utility.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Peter D. Bredon

    Of course, they didn’t usually last (some things never change), but parental unease probably at least partly explains the trend toward co-education that gained steam in the 20th century.

    Disagree. The lesbian thing during the era of single-sex 7S colleges is overblown. I had female relatives who went to 7S colleges in the 50s; they all married at age 22 and had kids and no, this wasn’t LUG. Not at all.

    During college they studied hard, AND partied hard, going to the brother Ivy and down to NYC or up to Boston. They had it all: football games, the best libraries, the best of everything. Never has a generation of women had it so good.

    The bitter Millennials who hate Boomers should hate these gals. They are all pre-Boomer; I don’t know what to call women who were born 1930-1946.

    Co-educationalism was simply part of the steam-roller, and not so ironically the schools that stayed single-sex became bastions of dykedom.

    • Replies: @Hereward
    @Paperback Writer

    "I don’t know what to call women who were born 1930-1946."
    Silent generation.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    , @Nico
    @Paperback Writer


    I don’t know what to call women who were born 1930-1946.
     
    I think it's usually "The Silent Generation" (too young to have served in WWII; too old to have partied through the late 60s and the 70s).
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Paperback Writer


    I don’t know what to call women who were born 1930-1946.

     

    Silent Generation.
  96. @J.Ross
    @Peter D. Bredon

    Both Casanova and Dali have passages where they mention that the first time they did it, they immediately resolved to never do it again. Talking about the repression of masturbation is like doddering elderly Hugh Hewitt babbling about how important it is to imprison potsmokers. The entirety of the sexual aspect of the societal collapse is no-fault divorce. Return shame to divorce, not masturbation. Once people are married they'll be masturbating soon enough anyway, but they won't be isolated rootless megacorp fodder.

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Peter D. Bredon, @James O'Meara

    I suppose Casanova invested his energy in seduction, Dali in painting and general nuttiness; seem to be the two main ways to “sublimate” ones urges. Marriage would be better for society.

    On MST3k, the answer the the titular question, “Are You Ready for Marriage” is “Yeah, I’m sick of having sex anyway.”

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Peter D. Bredon

    No, the point was that the "resolution" was completely meaningless and violated within the hour.

  97. @JohnPlywood
    @Hypnotoad666

    All women were always either gay or bisexual, whether they admit it or not. No woman is truly straight. If you're female you're a part of the LGBT community, period.

    https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/are-all-women-bisexual-or-gay/

    This is inconvenient for Christians, etc, for obvious reasons.


    In international youth risk studies, up to 6% of heterosexual-identifying females report having had a same-sex experience before age 18. So the data indicating around 15% Gen Z bisexuality are probably an underestimate.

    Huge numbers of young teenage girls are hooking up with the same sex, and there's nothing you can do about it.

    See page 6, fig 3:


    https://psych.utah.edu/_resources/documents/people/diamond/Sexual%2520Fluidity%2520in%2520Males%2520and%2520Females.pdf

    (Note that the Swedish men were the least gay out of all the participants, a real thorn in the side for all the anti-Swedish closet fags on the Anglophone Far Right)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Half Canadian

    (Note that the Swedish men were the least gay out of all the participants, a real thorn in the side for all the anti-Swedish closet fags on the Anglophone Far Right)

    There are none. I don’t expect anything else you said in that post is any more correct than that. I don’t recall that you’ve ever written a true sentence in the entire time you’ve been posting here. You’re an idiot.

    • Agree: JMcG
    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    @Mr. Anon

    Keep telling yourself that, if it helps you sleep at night.


    Here are six facts that are confirmed by science:

    Your grandmother is a member of the LGBT community.

    Your mother is a member of the LGBT community.

    Your aunt is a member of the LGBT community.

    Your cousins are members of the LGBT community.

    Your daughter is a member of the LGBT community.

    Anglo-Celtic-Latin countries are approximately 25-50% gayer than Scandinavian countries.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @The Soft Parade
    @Mr. Anon


    @John Plywood
    I don’t recall that you’ve ever written a true sentence in the entire time you’ve been posting here. You’re an idiot.

     

    Never, NEVER call JP an idiot. He will simply think you don't mean it.

    However, he can and does identify with "buttnugget." Be nice.
  98. @Bill P
    In the 19th century, when wealthy Americans started sending their daughters off to college, lesbian romances blossomed across the land. Of course, they didn't usually last (some things never change), but parental unease probably at least partly explains the trend toward co-education that gained steam in the 20th century.

    When you think about it, female and male sexuality are two sides of the same coin, so a certain amount of confusion is to be expected in youth. Ordinarily, human culture guides us toward the roles nature has chosen for us, but culture unmoored from reality can create confusion even among those without an underlying constitutional error.

    Such is our culture today.

    The social constructionists were half right: "gender" is in many ways a social construct. However, social constructs, when built correctly, follow the lay of the land. To ignore physical reality is to burden society with extra costs and dramatically reduce utility.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Peter D. Bredon

    “The social constructionists were half right: “gender” is in many ways a social construct. However, social constructs, when built correctly, follow the lay of the land. To ignore physical reality is to burden society with extra costs and dramatically reduce utility.”

    It’s like they absorbed the whole social construction part of the old Progressive Movement, but left out the accompanying pragmatic test: we can design things better. I bet if you read those earlier guys — Wells, Shaw, etc. — there was a bunch of “marriage is an outworn institution that doesn’t work any more, so let’s experiment with redesigning it.” “Progressives” today leave out that pragmatic test. Instead, they live in a fantasy land where whatever pleases or amusing them must be “right” and must be workable.

    Note that the old Progressives were pro-eugenics, the new ones hate it.

  99. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Should Gallup be releasing these polls during Black History Month? Shouldn't they wait til June to inform the US on what to think regarding latest their latest identities?

    Replies: @Old Prude, @Jack D

    Just imagine if young people could choose to be black in the same way that they can choose to be LGBT (Rachel Dolezal showed that we are not yet ready for transracialism). What % of the current generation would pick black?

    • LOL: Hibernian
  100. @J.Ross
    @Peter D. Bredon

    Both Casanova and Dali have passages where they mention that the first time they did it, they immediately resolved to never do it again. Talking about the repression of masturbation is like doddering elderly Hugh Hewitt babbling about how important it is to imprison potsmokers. The entirety of the sexual aspect of the societal collapse is no-fault divorce. Return shame to divorce, not masturbation. Once people are married they'll be masturbating soon enough anyway, but they won't be isolated rootless megacorp fodder.

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Peter D. Bredon, @James O'Meara

    “The Power of Positive Fapping:
    Napoleon Hill, Salesman & Sex Magickian”

    https://counter-currents.com/2019/12/the-power-of-positive-fapping/

  101. @Ed
    Saw a nice guardian clip on Hungary’s attempt to boost its fertility rate. At least they’re trying. The West is sick but there are pockets of hope.

    https://youtu.be/BeeQSWDwvxk

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Saw a nice guardian clip on Hungary’s attempt to boost its fertility rate. At least they’re trying. The West is sick but there are pockets of hope.

    And of course they are being excoriated for it:

    https://www.facebook.com/60minutes/posts/10158083597294395

  102. @Not Only Wrathful
    Every woman I've been intimate with has admitted to same sex fantasies. I assume men are the same. I've fantasised about using nuclear bombs to blow up the world, while I watch from orbit and laugh as everyone burns. Such things are part of who everyone is. I suspect a lot of the increase in LGBT identification is young women merely being open about such fantasies, perhaps to receive social credit of some kind.

    On the other hand, I have noticed a fair few younger women who seem to have decided that sexual drive is male. They are then prone to needing to act as males sexually and in their fantasies, as that is the thought pattern they have fallen into. They also tend to be most likely to rail against patriarchy and the male gaze. Often they were shy as early teens or developed a bit later. They are often trying very hard to get in touch with what they consider to be their feminine side, including sleeping with other women. Really, for completeness, they just need to meet a man who can competently embody that ideal for them or, paradoxically, go do some activities that they associate as unhealthily masculine, probably like hunting or whatever, so that they can realise that the sexual drive is not the male preserve and that they therefore need not see themselves as masculine because they like sex. Of course they could just remain without their own feminine sense of sexuality and therefore feel compelled to find in their sexual partners. There's no harm done, but it does feel like a sin of ommision.

    Replies: @SFG, @Old Prude, @James O'Meara

    “I’ve fantasised about using nuclear bombs to blow up the world, while I watch from orbit and laugh as everyone burns.” LOL for that part.

  103. @JohnnyWalker123
    The growth of bisexuality, transgenderism, and lesbianism is very evident among younger women. Not just here in North America, but even in Europe too.

    There are surveys that have shown a significant fall in sexual activity among young men, along with an even more significant fall in the teen pregnancy rate. However, there is a less notable decline in sexual activity among young women. Which doesn't make sense. The data points seem contradictory.

    What can explain this enigma?

    Lots of young women are exploring sexual relations with the same gender. There's been a huge uptick in same-sex activity among younger women in recent years. So they're still sexually active, but not necessarily with boys.

    In a lot of youth music these days, you hear a male singer talking about how his favorite girl is "into girls" now and avoiding boys.

    Listen to this contemporary song from "The Weeknd." He's an ultra popular singer from Toronto. In this song, he talks about how he likes a girl and wants to have raunchy sex with her. However, this girl has temporarily abandoned boys to become a lesbian, in order to avoid getting her heart broken.

    Listen 1:15-1:25.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDWLMNyBpZ4

    Replies: @Malenfant, @The Wild Geese Howard, @ken, @e, @Intensifier

    Just remember that with large % or females, esp. young, socially-isolated or socially inept or physically unattractive, sexual behavior does not represent actual sexual attraction/desire.

    Think of all the homosexual men who’ve had some sexual experience with women. All it takes it friction, as they say. Most gay men who’ve had such experiences with women are not physically stimulated by the female form as the hetero man is. That doesn’t mean he can’t enjoy a physical experience at which a woman is present. All it takes is friction and the human interaction with another human being is, at that moment anyway, perhaps more inviting than masturbating at home alone.

    With many of these women, it’s the same. They are not attracted physically to the other woman, but there’s another person there with a vibrator and it beats loneliness.

    I think most Americans who aren’t around high schoolers and young college people don’t understand that “dating” is a thing of the past in many urban and suburban areas. “Hooking up” is the college scene and it’s especially unfulfilling and dangerous for girls, as one might imagine.

    It’s led to all kinds of strange new behaviors, and I seriously doubt it has much, if anything, to do with actual physical attraction.

    When a dog humps your leg it’s to relieve a physical urge.

  104. @JohnnyWalker123
    The growth of bisexuality, transgenderism, and lesbianism is very evident among younger women. Not just here in North America, but even in Europe too.

    There are surveys that have shown a significant fall in sexual activity among young men, along with an even more significant fall in the teen pregnancy rate. However, there is a less notable decline in sexual activity among young women. Which doesn't make sense. The data points seem contradictory.

    What can explain this enigma?

    Lots of young women are exploring sexual relations with the same gender. There's been a huge uptick in same-sex activity among younger women in recent years. So they're still sexually active, but not necessarily with boys.

    In a lot of youth music these days, you hear a male singer talking about how his favorite girl is "into girls" now and avoiding boys.

    Listen to this contemporary song from "The Weeknd." He's an ultra popular singer from Toronto. In this song, he talks about how he likes a girl and wants to have raunchy sex with her. However, this girl has temporarily abandoned boys to become a lesbian, in order to avoid getting her heart broken.

    Listen 1:15-1:25.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDWLMNyBpZ4

    Replies: @Malenfant, @The Wild Geese Howard, @ken, @e, @Intensifier

    Perhaps part of the reason why there is a fall in sexual activity among young males with no such fall among young females lies in the fact that the female right to kill any consequent child at her discretion is absolute and is a guaranteed way out of lifelong commitment whereas the male has no such prerogative and is quite literally putting his future in her hands…..some high status highly intelligent young men see the eye-catching problem here and steer clear of the honeytrap.

    In essence whilst sex is essentially consequence-free entertainment for women for men it is potentially life-changing and disempowering.

  105. I know an older man, a cultured gentleman with whom I’ve gone to the opera, whose wife wants to take him to the cleaners in a divorce. So she’s encouraging their teenage daughters to claim to be boys.

    Based on the story you present, the mere fact your friend isn’t seriously contemplating homicide, is proof positive of his status as a cultured gentleman.

  106. @Malenfant
    @JohnnyWalker123



    There are surveys that have shown a significant fall in sexual activity among young men, along with an even more significant fall in the teen pregnancy rate. However, there is a less notable decline in sexual activity among young women. Which doesn’t make sense. The data points seem contradictory.

    What can explain this enigma?

     

    This is easy.

    Apps like Tinder and the rise of hook-up culture have made things much easier for the top 10% of young men, and much more difficult for average or below-average young men. So the chads are having much more sex, the young women are sated, and yet there are a lot more incels than there used to be...

    It's not lesbianism, which in truth hardly even exists.

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful, @JohnnyWalker123

    Except there’s been a huge fall in the teen pregnancy rate, indicating less female heterosexual sex.

    • Replies: @Bill P
    @JohnnyWalker123

    My generation (genx) was the most promiscuous in US history. Despite access to birth control, we had a higher rate of teen pregnancy than ever before or since.

    There was usually a pregnant girl in class if it wasn't an honors or AP class. I remember one in particular drinking vodka from a Snapple bottle in class well into her third trimester. Other than the vodka, her pregnancy was totally unremarkable, and I wouldn't have remembered it if it weren't for that cringe feeling I got from seeing a heavily pregnant girl get drunk.

    There's no way girls are hooking up with "chads" as much as they were back then. Also, the Chads of today are total sissies compared to the monsters prowling high school hallways back in the early 90s.

    My kids are genz, and I'm glad they aren't getting any. Didn't do me any good in the long run.

  107. @S. Anonyia
    Very disturbing that there are more self-identified transgenders than lesbians among 2 generational cohorts.

    More disturbing to ponder how many more of them consider themselves non binary.

    And you’re right, a lot of these changes are due to social pressures on young women. They are calling masculine girls “non binaries” or boys, as if there weren’t popular books about written since the Victorian era, like Little Women or Caddie Woodlawn. Culprit for the slight rise in LGBT identification among men is likely pornsickness.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @william munny

    Very disturbing that there are more self-identified transgenders than lesbians among 2 generational cohorts.

    More disturbing to ponder how many more of them consider themselves non binary.

    And you’re right, a lot of these changes are due to social pressures on young women. They are calling masculine girls “non binaries” or boys, as if there weren’t popular books about written since the Victorian era, like Little Women or Caddie Woodlawn. Culprit for the slight rise in LGBT identification among men is likely pornsickness.

    There is a blogger/podcaster named Katie Herzog who writes with Sullivan about the vanishing of lesbians – it’s her observation that women who would have been yesterday’s lesbians are now identifying as non-binary or trans:

    https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/where-have-all-the-lesbians-gone-0a7

  108. People might state their sexual preference, but it’s rather like declaring how much money you think is an ideal income: you don’t have it just by saying so. All the more so when the sexes are numerically imbalanced, there are a lot of take-what-they-can-getsexuals.

    Moreover, people’s stated sexuality tends to be chosen with a view to increasing their sexual market value. This is one reason why women are more likely to call themselves bisexual: part of a woman’s SMV is her inaccessibility to men.

  109. @Wilkey
    @Hypnotoad666


    It’s also clear that “bisexual” self-identification among young females is the biggest driver of increased LGBT percentages. Is it just cool for girls to say they’re “bi” now? (Let’s face it, how many guys find that to be a big turn off in women).
     
    Yes. This was exactly my comment an an earlier thread. Silly girls, usually with liberal parents, are proclaiming themselves to be bisexual, mostly as an attention-getting or snowflake move. Very few of these girls will actually marry a woman, or even actually ever have sex with another woman.

    This is what happens when you start attacking and stop celebrating the importance of traditional family life.

    Our culture is insanely stupid. Or stupidly insane. Or both.

    Replies: @Anon, @Colin Wright, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    This is what happens when you start attacking and stop celebrating the importance of traditional family life.

    Our culture is insanely stupid. Or stupidly insane. Or both.

    Homosexuals make a terrific social revolutionary vanguard, because they’re generally disconnected from their family/community/tribe/nation by virtue of rejecting its mores and in turn being rejected. They’re historically without fathers and without issue – and therefore they’re never invested in the society as it exists.

    The homosexual is also the perfect globohomo producer-consumer unit (which they’d like us all to be) – atomized, without family, hedonistic, while fixated on fashion, material/sensuous luxury, and meaningless drama.

    • Agree: Intensifier
    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
  110. @anon
    @JohnPlywood


    If you are female you are a part of the LGBT community. End of discussion.

     

    Project much?
    This creepy Plywood character has just outed itself as some variety of sex deviant.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    No, he did that when he wrote to me that Anni-Frid and Agnetha of ABBA were trannies.

  111. @Bardon Kaldian
    Nixon at his most prophetic. I've seen this video a few times.

    In a clip from the 1970s, Richard Nixon is heard complaining that the sitcom "All in the Family" glorifies homosexuality.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TivVcfSBVSM

    The best parts..

    "Hot pants"
    "Jesus Christ...I didn't think of that."
    ....................
    "He's obviously queer--wears an ascot."
    ..................................
    "I don't even want to shake hands with anyone from San Francisco."
    ......................................................
    "You know what happened to the Popes....P-P-Popes were laying the nuns!" [Ehrlichman guffaws]

    Best comments:


    The American Storyteller

    This gave me more laughs than anything the Archbunker actually said. I was literally pounding the table in laughter while watching this dialogue.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Thank you, Bardon. I am now looking forward to watching this later on. Just from the jokes you have right here, I think a lot more of Nixon, seeing his sense of humor. That’s not to say he wasn’t a faux Conservative that just went with the flow to get elected. He was – Nixon, you funny bastard, I read Buchanan’s book!

  112. @Brant
    @Rob

    Gay germ makes no sense to me because it’s only to apply to men, yet female homosexuality is equally discordant in twins. It implies that it’s something stochastic in brain development very early on (in uterine environment or shortly after) which creates an opposite sex brain structure. The germ thing also makes no sense because men don’t suddenly become gay, nor do little boys suddenly ‘turn feminine’ which would be a sure indicator of a germ. Mothers would be horrified if that were true. In reality, they notice their boys act more like girls as soon as they start expressing themselves. The germ theory needs to go in the bin. Cochran was foolish on that front.

    Replies: @bomag, @JMcG, @Morton's toes, @e

    Judging by what you’ve said, it appears you know of Cochran and his hypothesis, but haven’t actually read what he says about the pathogen and when it likely strikes.

    • Replies: @Brant
    @e

    @e


    Judging by what you’ve said, it appears you know of Cochran and his hypothesis, but haven’t actually read what he says about the pathogen and when it likely strikes
     
    Cochran says it strikes sometime in childhood. Of course thats absurd – you'd notice your son suddenly turning feminine. The largest review showed that 90% of gay men were more feminine than the average heterosexual man. And again, why is twin discordance used as "evidence" for the gay germ, yet women are equally discordant and their homosexuality is not meant to be caused by a germ. That's a blatant hole in the hypothesis because it implies that twins can undergo different developmental processes in events.
  113. @Elli

    I know an older man, a cultured gentleman with whom I’ve gone to the opera, whose wife wants to take him to the cleaners in a divorce. So she’s encouraging their teenage daughters to claim to be boys.
     
    In effect, the revenge of Medea, as far as leaving posterity, at least for a middle-aged woman - the middle-aged husband still has a chance. And likely, a bitter, lonely old age.

    Replies: @Pericles, @Anonymous

    whose wife wants to take him to the cleaners in a divorce. So she’s encouraging their teenage daughters to claim to be boys.

    One can only hope the daughters then take mommy dearest to the cleaners for her child abuse.

  114. @Peter D. Bredon
    @Anon 2

    "Masturbation used to be considered one of the greatest evils to which young men were prone, until Kinsey in the late 1940s found that about 60% of unmarried young men masturbate. It then became difficult to condemn a practice that is enthusiastically pursued by the majority of young men."

    This seems to be the nub of it (if you will). Now, if some 60% of UYM are indulging, then the "repression" couldn't have been that successful. Should we amp it up? Or, as you imply, is that a reason to say, well, fuggedaboutit. After all, 1940s society is pretty much the ideal here at Unz, so what's the problem? OR, does it only "work" if we continue the repression, although 60% don't seem to bother. See what I mean? Do we have to pretend it's the greatest of evils, though we know it doesn't really matter, because if we admit it's OK, everything goes keflooey? Eg., Plato's noble lie, Leo Strauss's esoteric gentlemen vs. the rabble, etc.

    If the subject offends you, substitute "prohibition of alcohol." That not only gave us organized crime, but smoothed the way of the Jews into polite society. Worth it?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @bomag, @Anonymous Jew

    After all, 1940s society is pretty much the ideal here at Unz

    Meh, maybe the demographics/ segregation and lack of Diversity. Northern Europe after the economic reforms but before the migrant crisis looks pretty good to me. And they were relatively libertine. A small amount of progressivism seems OK so long as the population is homogeneous and high IQ. On the other hand, it’s fair to conclude that the current year is the inevitable result of the same progressivism. Perhaps 1990’s Sweden is not something that’s sustainable for very long, even in a world where migrants don’t exist. It was Western Civilization’s high before the hangover. And now we just have AIDS.

    How do seemingly harmless proscriptions tie into other evils? Does Burkean conservatism have a point? Is it like broken windows policing? We’re not noble savages, and a little bit of repression is good, even if the crime is victimless. It’s the glue that holds us together. But too much gives you women in burkas and 50 lashings for sneaking a sip of liquor.

    I keep on going back to Camille Paglia’s finding that as civilizations collapse cultural representations of gender become more androgynous followed by gender confusion. As if it’s not already obvious that we’re on some predestined path of self destruction that’s happened many times before. It’s proof enough that we’ve gone too far.

  115. @Peter D. Bredon
    @J.Ross

    I suppose Casanova invested his energy in seduction, Dali in painting and general nuttiness; seem to be the two main ways to "sublimate" ones urges. Marriage would be better for society.

    On MST3k, the answer the the titular question, "Are You Ready for Marriage" is "Yeah, I'm sick of having sex anyway."

    https://youtu.be/KxhC-ZLlCyc

    Replies: @J.Ross

    No, the point was that the “resolution” was completely meaningless and violated within the hour.

  116. @Mr. Anon
    @JohnPlywood


    (Note that the Swedish men were the least gay out of all the participants, a real thorn in the side for all the anti-Swedish closet fags on the Anglophone Far Right)
     
    There are none. I don't expect anything else you said in that post is any more correct than that. I don't recall that you've ever written a true sentence in the entire time you've been posting here. You're an idiot.

    Replies: @JohnPlywood, @The Soft Parade

    Keep telling yourself that, if it helps you sleep at night.

    Here are six facts that are confirmed by science:

    Your grandmother is a member of the LGBT community.

    Your mother is a member of the LGBT community.

    Your aunt is a member of the LGBT community.

    Your cousins are members of the LGBT community.

    Your daughter is a member of the LGBT community.

    Anglo-Celtic-Latin countries are approximately 25-50% gayer than Scandinavian countries.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @JohnPlywood


    Keep telling yourself that, if it helps you sleep at night.

    Here are six facts that are confirmed by science:
     
    Keep telling yourself that, if it helps you sleep at night.

    Here are six facts that are confirmed by your posts here.

    You are an idiot.

    You are an idiot.

    You are an idiot.

    You are an idiot.

    You are an idiot.

    You are an idiot.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  117. @Paperback Writer
    @Bill P


    Of course, they didn’t usually last (some things never change), but parental unease probably at least partly explains the trend toward co-education that gained steam in the 20th century.
     
    Disagree. The lesbian thing during the era of single-sex 7S colleges is overblown. I had female relatives who went to 7S colleges in the 50s; they all married at age 22 and had kids and no, this wasn't LUG. Not at all.

    During college they studied hard, AND partied hard, going to the brother Ivy and down to NYC or up to Boston. They had it all: football games, the best libraries, the best of everything. Never has a generation of women had it so good.

    The bitter Millennials who hate Boomers should hate these gals. They are all pre-Boomer; I don't know what to call women who were born 1930-1946.

    Co-educationalism was simply part of the steam-roller, and not so ironically the schools that stayed single-sex became bastions of dykedom.

    Replies: @Hereward, @Nico, @JohnnyWalker123

    “I don’t know what to call women who were born 1930-1946.”
    Silent generation.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Hereward

    Which tells you something about names. The Silent Generation created the 60s, not the Boomers. We were their innocent victims, I tell you!

    Anyway, never has a generation had it so good.

  118. @JohnPlywood
    @Hypnotoad666

    All women were always either gay or bisexual, whether they admit it or not. No woman is truly straight. If you're female you're a part of the LGBT community, period.

    https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/are-all-women-bisexual-or-gay/

    This is inconvenient for Christians, etc, for obvious reasons.


    In international youth risk studies, up to 6% of heterosexual-identifying females report having had a same-sex experience before age 18. So the data indicating around 15% Gen Z bisexuality are probably an underestimate.

    Huge numbers of young teenage girls are hooking up with the same sex, and there's nothing you can do about it.

    See page 6, fig 3:


    https://psych.utah.edu/_resources/documents/people/diamond/Sexual%2520Fluidity%2520in%2520Males%2520and%2520Females.pdf

    (Note that the Swedish men were the least gay out of all the participants, a real thorn in the side for all the anti-Swedish closet fags on the Anglophone Far Right)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Half Canadian

    That UoU link is dead.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    @Half Canadian

    Thanks for noticing. Here are two links that should work:

    https://psych.utah.edu/_resources/documents/people/diamond/SexualFluidityinMalesandFemales.pdf


    http://www.naraegg.com/_resources/documents/people/diamond/SexualFluidityinMalesandFemales.pdf

  119. @Brant
    @bomag

    Sure, but it’s not supposed to apply to women because the whole concept is that the pathogen destroys male typical structure reverting the male to a female typical attraction circuit. How would female homosexual twin discordance come about? Oh, hormones in utero? So now the hormonal theory of homosexuality is plausible again. I just think the pathogen idea is dumb AF because gay face seems to be real and gays are so fem/neurotic that it’s a lot more cognitive overhaul than just some tiny region for attraction.

    Replies: @Nico

    Conventional wisdom has it that at least among men “there’s no such thing as bisexual,” that “suck one cock and you’re always a cocksucker,” etc. I don’t think this is quite correct but the results of numerous observational studies and anecdotes are certainly consistent with the position that female sexuality is far more fluid than male sexuality, which is about as close as we’re likely to get to a biological basis for saying men are usually heterosexual and sometimes gay; women are usually bisexual and sometimes lesbian.

    Note I say “biological basis,” as opposed to a social self-identification basis. We would have expected – and the figures here seem to confirm – that a disproportionate share of the heightened “LGB” part of the increased identification of LGBT has to do with a much larger increase in women who in a more structured society would choose exclusively men choosing now to identify as bisexual. (I would note the lesbian self-identification doesn’t seem to have increased faster than the gay self-identification, so the effect of such women identifying as lesbian for purely political reasons probably isn’t very significant.)

  120. @Altai

    Transgender and the bisexual catch-all are up dramatically among the young and vulnerable.
     
    Transgender and the bisexual catch-all are up dramatically among young girls with cluster B personality disorders. The increase in boys has been comparatively modest.

    These are the figures for Britain and Ireland.

    Britain.
    https://i1.wp.com/www.transgendertrend.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/bar-graph-2.png

    Ireland.
    https://womensspaceireland.ie/content/images/2020/08/image-11.png

    Same pattern in the Netherlands, Australia, Sweden and I'm sure others but those are the two plots I could find quickly.

    Fixed that for you.

    Notice how the figure for gay men has barely budged. 90% of the time when somebody proclaims themselves to be 'bisexual' it's a girl or very young woman. And most of the time it isn't true and is done for the same reasons Niki Minaj did it.

    Replies: @Nico

    Notice how the figure for gay men has barely budged. 90% of the time when somebody proclaims themselves to be ‘bisexual’ it’s a girl or very young woman. And most of the time it isn’t true and is done for the same reasons Niki Minaj did it.

    One of the more telling examples of this cynicism is Miley Cyrus’s claim to be “pansexual” and “gender-fluid.” She’s had numerous boyfriends, been married two years to a man and dated two women, at moments years apart, for a couple months each. For someone as fucked up as she tries to appear she’s awfully straight.

  121. @Paperback Writer
    @Bill P


    Of course, they didn’t usually last (some things never change), but parental unease probably at least partly explains the trend toward co-education that gained steam in the 20th century.
     
    Disagree. The lesbian thing during the era of single-sex 7S colleges is overblown. I had female relatives who went to 7S colleges in the 50s; they all married at age 22 and had kids and no, this wasn't LUG. Not at all.

    During college they studied hard, AND partied hard, going to the brother Ivy and down to NYC or up to Boston. They had it all: football games, the best libraries, the best of everything. Never has a generation of women had it so good.

    The bitter Millennials who hate Boomers should hate these gals. They are all pre-Boomer; I don't know what to call women who were born 1930-1946.

    Co-educationalism was simply part of the steam-roller, and not so ironically the schools that stayed single-sex became bastions of dykedom.

    Replies: @Hereward, @Nico, @JohnnyWalker123

    I don’t know what to call women who were born 1930-1946.

    I think it’s usually “The Silent Generation” (too young to have served in WWII; too old to have partied through the late 60s and the 70s).

  122. Anon[280] • Disclaimer says:
    @stillCARealist
    @Anon

    Yes, but does pot CAUSE the crazy, or is it smoked BECAUSE of the crazy?

    I'd love to see someone disentangle that, even in a superficial way.

    Another question: Will pot affect your hormones? I hear people criticizing soy as being estrogenic, and so they won't touch it. What about the weed? Will that give you man-boobs or softer whiskers?

    Replies: @Anon, @Paperback Writer

    Pretty good. I skimmed/read it, so don’t remember about hormones. But many things impact hormonal balance so it could be an issue.

    Cocaine is also reputed to “make” men gay 😂. Which means heavy users are not only desinhibited, but that there is un “unfolding of the personality” that makes such behavior possible. Or so ex-dealers day.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Anon

    Here's what I've heard about cocaine. When you're up, you feel like Superman. When you come off it, you feel really down, so you feel feminine. I can't explain it better than that, sorry.

    I read the same about Bruce Jenner. He took a lot of PEDs and his way of habituating to being off them was he became convinced he was a woman. I don't think he was an autogynophile, and he wasn't the homosexual type of trannie. He was just f'd up by lots of hypermasculinizing drugs.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

  123. • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @MEH 0910

    This is purely rub your face in it bullshit.

    An honest answer if one questioned Resident Biden's Regime as to why it should be confirmed, would, quite simply be "Because we can."

  124. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1365046642957832195

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    This is purely rub your face in it bullshit.

    An honest answer if one questioned Resident Biden’s Regime as to why it should be confirmed, would, quite simply be “Because we can.”

  125. @S. Anonyia
    Very disturbing that there are more self-identified transgenders than lesbians among 2 generational cohorts.

    More disturbing to ponder how many more of them consider themselves non binary.

    And you’re right, a lot of these changes are due to social pressures on young women. They are calling masculine girls “non binaries” or boys, as if there weren’t popular books about written since the Victorian era, like Little Women or Caddie Woodlawn. Culprit for the slight rise in LGBT identification among men is likely pornsickness.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @william munny

    Maybe the US is becoming like Iran. No
    gays allowed. You can have the surgery though. But instead of Mullahs it is at the direction of the MtF trans elite.

  126. @Radicalcenter
    @Bill

    Not sure that lesbian sexual practices are as physically dangerous (both traumatic and infectious) as male homosexual practices. Therefore, not sure that lesbian sexual “lifestyle” tends to shorten one’s life as much as male homo practices.

    Replies: @Bill

    Good point, but women are also more malleable, so that decline is easier to explain.

  127. @Not Only Wrathful
    @Malenfant

    A lot of men used to sleep with a small proportion of women. Those women were called prostitutes, usually because they received money as part of the exchange. Now a lot of women sleep with a small proportion of men, and those men are called chads, because they don't receive money as part of the exchange.

    The above is a mere value-free observation. Interesting, huh?

    This could be explained in millions of ways. I am familiar with the Just So evopsych stories liked on sites like this and, obviously, I am familiar with the SJW "please just let me be psychotic" apologias, but it does seem like it would be good for everyone if women could have a bit less shame about enjoying desiring and men could have a bit less shame about enjoying being desired.

    Both are enjoyable and both sexes do in fact enjoy both, but the lies we tell ourselves do also present as social problems...

    Replies: @Anonymous Jew

    Given the relative lack of diversity in male v female lineage, a relatively small number of men impregnating nearly all women has been the norm during most of our evolution. To put it another way, we’re descended from a lot of females and a relatively small amount of males. Biology really screwed up relations between the sexes.

  128. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Malenfant

    Except there's been a huge fall in the teen pregnancy rate, indicating less female heterosexual sex.

    Replies: @Bill P

    My generation (genx) was the most promiscuous in US history. Despite access to birth control, we had a higher rate of teen pregnancy than ever before or since.

    There was usually a pregnant girl in class if it wasn’t an honors or AP class. I remember one in particular drinking vodka from a Snapple bottle in class well into her third trimester. Other than the vodka, her pregnancy was totally unremarkable, and I wouldn’t have remembered it if it weren’t for that cringe feeling I got from seeing a heavily pregnant girl get drunk.

    There’s no way girls are hooking up with “chads” as much as they were back then. Also, the Chads of today are total sissies compared to the monsters prowling high school hallways back in the early 90s.

    My kids are genz, and I’m glad they aren’t getting any. Didn’t do me any good in the long run.

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
  129. @Colin Wright
    @Wilkey

    ' Silly girls, usually with liberal parents, are proclaiming themselves to be bisexual, mostly as an attention-getting or snowflake move. Very few of these girls will actually marry a woman, or even actually ever have sex with another woman.'

    My suspicion is that it's the only rationale they have left for the perfectly normal ambivalence women have when it comes to casual heterosexual sex.

    They can't claim they don't have sexual desires. They're not 'saving themselves for marriage.' There's no reason to fear pregnancy. So what do they tell themselves?

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    My suspicion is that it’s the only rationale they have left for the perfectly normal ambivalence women have when it comes to casual heterosexual sex.

    They can’t claim they don’t have sexual desires. They’re not ‘saving themselves for marriage.’ There’s no reason to fear pregnancy. So what do they tell themselves?

    Good observation CW.

    No doubt some of this is just emotional girls who have had bad experiences with boys/men, or simply do not like the confused/pathological “dating” environment that is available to them. All this queer stuff is just a big rejection of that.

    Job #1, of course, is destroying minoritarianism in all its forms and closing down immigration. But after that we have a lot of repair work to do. A healthy nation channels young men and women into healthy fertile marriages.

    The whole national culture should be one that:
    — teaches boys and girls what is important in life from a young age
    — helps build decent character and quashes the snowflakes
    — encourages–and helps–young men and women to find each other
    — but gives young men and women the tools to rationally assess a decent fit and to have the patience to avoid sexual activity until that fit is found
    — strongly encourages solid young couples to get married
    — encourages decent (3+ kids) fertility for healthy/high-character/productive couples with good marriages (eugenic fertility)

    We should be getting a lot better leadership from churches. And colleges … holy cow, what a disaster.

  130. @Not Only Wrathful
    Every woman I've been intimate with has admitted to same sex fantasies. I assume men are the same. I've fantasised about using nuclear bombs to blow up the world, while I watch from orbit and laugh as everyone burns. Such things are part of who everyone is. I suspect a lot of the increase in LGBT identification is young women merely being open about such fantasies, perhaps to receive social credit of some kind.

    On the other hand, I have noticed a fair few younger women who seem to have decided that sexual drive is male. They are then prone to needing to act as males sexually and in their fantasies, as that is the thought pattern they have fallen into. They also tend to be most likely to rail against patriarchy and the male gaze. Often they were shy as early teens or developed a bit later. They are often trying very hard to get in touch with what they consider to be their feminine side, including sleeping with other women. Really, for completeness, they just need to meet a man who can competently embody that ideal for them or, paradoxically, go do some activities that they associate as unhealthily masculine, probably like hunting or whatever, so that they can realise that the sexual drive is not the male preserve and that they therefore need not see themselves as masculine because they like sex. Of course they could just remain without their own feminine sense of sexuality and therefore feel compelled to find in their sexual partners. There's no harm done, but it does feel like a sin of ommision.

    Replies: @SFG, @Old Prude, @James O'Meara

    “Every woman I’ve been intimate with has admitted to same sex fantasies. I assume men are the same.”

    Perhaps not quite your point, but I’ve long thought this explained, or at least express, why many/most women might have same-sex fantasies but few men:

  131. @Morton's toes
    @Brant


    In reality, they notice their boys act more like girls as soon as they start expressing themselves.
     
    Both of the homosexuals from the neighborhood where I grew up did not display any of this behavior.

    I swear the most hilarious politically incorrect thing I ever saw Camile Paglia write or hear her say was that boys in grammar school on the lookout for catching cooties from some of their taunted peers was that cooties were the homosexual germ and those little boys knew something that everybody else tried to ignore.

    Replies: @Brant

    It doesn’t have to be extreme gender nonconformity, just elevated. Two of the gay males from my school were ‘different’ from the beginning at age 5. None of the boys treated them weirdly, and they occasionally hung out with us. None of us “caught” the gay off them. The fact that people on UNZ trot out Cochran’s pseudoscience is laughable.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Brant


    None of us “caught” the gay off them. The fact that people on UNZ trot out Cochran’s pseudoscience is laughable.
     
    Maybe you're not part of the hypothetical population with a particular HLA type.

    https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/depths-of-madness/

    My model – not the only possible model based on a pathogen, but reasonable – leans on a couple of natural examples. One is narcolepsy. We now know that narcolepsy happens when a particular kind of neuron, concentrated in a little region in the hypothalamus, somehow gets zapped. 99% of narcolepsy cases happen in the 25% of the population that has a particular HLA type – which suggests that something, probably a virus, triggers an overenthusiastic immune response that zaps a neuron subpopulation that produce a particular neurotransmitter (called hypocretin or orexin) that regulates appetite and sleep patterns. And it doesn’t do anything else: narcoleptics aren’t stupid. You can compare narcolepsy to type I diabetes or Parkinson’s disease. Suppose there’s a neuron subpopulation that performs a key function in male sexual desire: wipe out that subpopulation, and Bob’s your uncle.
     
  132. @e
    @Brant

    Judging by what you've said, it appears you know of Cochran and his hypothesis, but haven't actually read what he says about the pathogen and when it likely strikes.

    Replies: @Brant

    Judging by what you’ve said, it appears you know of Cochran and his hypothesis, but haven’t actually read what he says about the pathogen and when it likely strikes

    Cochran says it strikes sometime in childhood. Of course thats absurd – you’d notice your son suddenly turning feminine. The largest review showed that 90% of gay men were more feminine than the average heterosexual man. And again, why is twin discordance used as “evidence” for the gay germ, yet women are equally discordant and their homosexuality is not meant to be caused by a germ. That’s a blatant hole in the hypothesis because it implies that twins can undergo different developmental processes in events.

  133. @JMcG
    @Brant

    Perhaps such a germ expresses as transgenderism if one is infected later in life? Maybe not gay, but it sure looks like it. Obviously I’m just spitballing here.

    Replies: @Brant

    Perhaps such a germ expresses as transgenderism if one is infected later in life? Maybe not gay, but it sure looks like it

    Have you read “The Man Who Would Be Queen” by J. Michael Bailey? He himself is on good terms with Cochran, and believes the germ theory has “evolutionary plausibility” but has big holes in it. Bailey writes about how transsexual men were often aroused by cross dressing from as young as 3. There was a case in Ken Zuckers office where a boy was pointing out womens underwear he wanted and had an erection. These straight men don’t suddenly “turn trans”, they actually just don’t talk openly about their fetish for cross dressing as a woman… yet in every documented case there is a long hidden history of doing so. Attributing all atypical sexual interest to germs is getting ridiculous – from an evolutionary perspective transsexualism is no problem since 80% of them are still attracted to women and reproduce. It’s easily explained by a mutation which is often passed from father to son.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Brant

    A three year old displaying strong arousal is indeed aberrant hetero or not. Clearly it’s more than simple preference at work.

    I do buy into - among possibly other triggers - the infection hypothesis but from the autoimmune response. This is PANS you can read up on it. No literature states that there are sexual affects but I have seen this in play with children afflicted. Its been confirmed from talking w a couple researchers and practitioners they too have noticed but sadly won’t wade into politically charged waters.

    The rise in gender issues also correlates to the rise in autoimmune issues. There are clearly major environmental issues plaguing our world.

    Replies: @Brant

  134. Maybe it is the only way that kids can get a job?

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Sink

    It's not gone that far yet. But in the near future, there may be quotas for LGBTQ people, and what could be easier than "identifying" as gay/trans, etc. to jump past better qualified candidates for a job?

  135. @Reg Cæsar
    @jon



    Only white engage in this behavior.

     

    Most stats I’ve seen say the opposite
     
    All races engage in it, but only whites celebrate it. Or enshrine it in law:


    https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/FT_19.10.22_SSMsnapshot640px.png?w=640

    Replies: @jon, @JohnnyWalker123

    Your map shows that gay marriage has made huge inroads in Latin America, as well as Taiwan and South Africa. No such luck in Eastern Europe.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Your map shows that gay marriage has made huge inroads in Latin America, as well as Taiwan and South Africa. No such luck in Eastern Europe.

     

    Argentina and Uruguay are white; Brazil, Columbia, and the other Latin lands are run by whites. The aboriginal-majority countries are having none of it. Guiana is France.

    South Africa's supreme court decision was written by a Jewish justice. Taiwan is heavily dependent on Western goodwill. White fingerprints stain all your exceptions.

    Eastern Europe dealt with another sick fantasy, socialism, for decades, so obviously they're not ready to jump on another wrong-way bandwagon. Reactionary Catholic Poland is the Uganda of Europe.


    Wow-- in the Amin/Obote era, I never would have guessed someday I'd intend a sentence like that to be a compliment!

  136. @Paperback Writer

    I know an older man, a cultured gentleman with whom I’ve gone to the opera, whose wife wants to take him to the cleaners in a divorce. So she’s encouraging their teenage daughters to claim to be boys.

     

    I don't get the connection. Isn't there something missing between sentence 1 and 2?

    Replies: @jon, @J.Ross, @ES

    Mean, bitter, angry soon-to-be ex-wife?

  137. @Paperback Writer
    @Bill P


    Of course, they didn’t usually last (some things never change), but parental unease probably at least partly explains the trend toward co-education that gained steam in the 20th century.
     
    Disagree. The lesbian thing during the era of single-sex 7S colleges is overblown. I had female relatives who went to 7S colleges in the 50s; they all married at age 22 and had kids and no, this wasn't LUG. Not at all.

    During college they studied hard, AND partied hard, going to the brother Ivy and down to NYC or up to Boston. They had it all: football games, the best libraries, the best of everything. Never has a generation of women had it so good.

    The bitter Millennials who hate Boomers should hate these gals. They are all pre-Boomer; I don't know what to call women who were born 1930-1946.

    Co-educationalism was simply part of the steam-roller, and not so ironically the schools that stayed single-sex became bastions of dykedom.

    Replies: @Hereward, @Nico, @JohnnyWalker123

    I don’t know what to call women who were born 1930-1946.

    Silent Generation.

  138. Priorities. In the past, we devoted ourselves to landing on the moon. Now we devote ourselves to developing ‘prep’ drugs so that homosexuals can do their disgusting business without catching AIDS.

  139. @Sink
    Maybe it is the only way that kids can get a job?

    Replies: @Rob McX

    It’s not gone that far yet. But in the near future, there may be quotas for LGBTQ people, and what could be easier than “identifying” as gay/trans, etc. to jump past better qualified candidates for a job?

  140. Anonymous[197] • Disclaimer says:
    @Brant
    @JMcG


    Perhaps such a germ expresses as transgenderism if one is infected later in life? Maybe not gay, but it sure looks like it
     
    Have you read "The Man Who Would Be Queen" by J. Michael Bailey? He himself is on good terms with Cochran, and believes the germ theory has "evolutionary plausibility" but has big holes in it. Bailey writes about how transsexual men were often aroused by cross dressing from as young as 3. There was a case in Ken Zuckers office where a boy was pointing out womens underwear he wanted and had an erection. These straight men don't suddenly "turn trans", they actually just don't talk openly about their fetish for cross dressing as a woman... yet in every documented case there is a long hidden history of doing so. Attributing all atypical sexual interest to germs is getting ridiculous – from an evolutionary perspective transsexualism is no problem since 80% of them are still attracted to women and reproduce. It's easily explained by a mutation which is often passed from father to son.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    A three year old displaying strong arousal is indeed aberrant hetero or not. Clearly it’s more than simple preference at work.

    I do buy into – among possibly other triggers – the infection hypothesis but from the autoimmune response. This is PANS you can read up on it. No literature states that there are sexual affects but I have seen this in play with children afflicted. Its been confirmed from talking w a couple researchers and practitioners they too have noticed but sadly won’t wade into politically charged waters.

    The rise in gender issues also correlates to the rise in autoimmune issues. There are clearly major environmental issues plaguing our world.

    • Replies: @Brant
    @Anonymous


    I do buy into – among possibly other triggers – the infection hypothesis but from the autoimmune response. This is PANS you can read up on it. No literature states that there are sexual affects but I have seen this in play with children afflicted. Its been confirmed from talking w a couple researchers and practitioners they too have noticed but sadly won’t wade into politically charged waters.

    The rise in gender issues also correlates to the rise in autoimmune issues. There are clearly major environmental issues plaguing our world.
     
    It's plausible. A more realistic version of Cochran's hypothesis would be something like a pathogen causing an allergic reaction. Allergic reactions in pregnancy have been found to effect sex differentiation in the offspring of rat. Female offspring were more masculine, male offspring more feminine.

    See here: https://neurosciencenews.com/allergic-reaction-sexual-development-10947/
  141. the white race is perhaps in the process of “boiling off” the freaks and wimps to become a more concentrated version itself.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @bigdicknick

    That should leave an even dozen finalists culled from the current crop.....

  142. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Reg Cæsar

    Your map shows that gay marriage has made huge inroads in Latin America, as well as Taiwan and South Africa. No such luck in Eastern Europe.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Your map shows that gay marriage has made huge inroads in Latin America, as well as Taiwan and South Africa. No such luck in Eastern Europe.

    Argentina and Uruguay are white; Brazil, Columbia, and the other Latin lands are run by whites. The aboriginal-majority countries are having none of it. Guiana is France.

    South Africa’s supreme court decision was written by a Jewish justice. Taiwan is heavily dependent on Western goodwill. White fingerprints stain all your exceptions.

    Eastern Europe dealt with another sick fantasy, socialism, for decades, so obviously they’re not ready to jump on another wrong-way bandwagon. Reactionary Catholic Poland is the Uganda of Europe.

    Wow– in the Amin/Obote era, I never would have guessed someday I’d intend a sentence like that to be a compliment!

  143. Meanwhile, the last great issue of the world has been resolved with the introduction of the gender neutral Mx. Potato Head. Finally, society is brave enough to address the issue of spud buggery.

  144. What about BPA’s in our caned food and platic water bottles.

    Funny how gen Z was the first generation to consume so much plastic
    bisphenol A (BPA) a Endocrine Disruptors gender bending that can mimic the female sex hormone, estrogen and at the same time lower sperm count in men. Nothing to see here. Move along. Not to mention out public school system of indoctrination and conditioning.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Mr. Gruntled

    BPA's are a legit issue, but not the only one. Not by a long distance. There are many endocrine disrupters around, some of them way too common.

    https://futurehuman.medium.com/humans-may-not-be-able-to-reproduce-naturally-much-longer-scientist-warns-bd3b9dbbf859

  145. @Mr. Gruntled
    What about BPA's in our caned food and platic water bottles.

    Funny how gen Z was the first generation to consume so much plastic
    bisphenol A (BPA) a Endocrine Disruptors gender bending that can mimic the female sex hormone, estrogen and at the same time lower sperm count in men. Nothing to see here. Move along. Not to mention out public school system of indoctrination and conditioning.

    Replies: @anon

    BPA’s are a legit issue, but not the only one. Not by a long distance. There are many endocrine disrupters around, some of them way too common.

    https://futurehuman.medium.com/humans-may-not-be-able-to-reproduce-naturally-much-longer-scientist-warns-bd3b9dbbf859

  146. @Anonymous
    @Brant

    A three year old displaying strong arousal is indeed aberrant hetero or not. Clearly it’s more than simple preference at work.

    I do buy into - among possibly other triggers - the infection hypothesis but from the autoimmune response. This is PANS you can read up on it. No literature states that there are sexual affects but I have seen this in play with children afflicted. Its been confirmed from talking w a couple researchers and practitioners they too have noticed but sadly won’t wade into politically charged waters.

    The rise in gender issues also correlates to the rise in autoimmune issues. There are clearly major environmental issues plaguing our world.

    Replies: @Brant

    I do buy into – among possibly other triggers – the infection hypothesis but from the autoimmune response. This is PANS you can read up on it. No literature states that there are sexual affects but I have seen this in play with children afflicted. Its been confirmed from talking w a couple researchers and practitioners they too have noticed but sadly won’t wade into politically charged waters.

    The rise in gender issues also correlates to the rise in autoimmune issues. There are clearly major environmental issues plaguing our world.

    It’s plausible. A more realistic version of Cochran’s hypothesis would be something like a pathogen causing an allergic reaction. Allergic reactions in pregnancy have been found to effect sex differentiation in the offspring of rat. Female offspring were more masculine, male offspring more feminine.

    See here: https://neurosciencenews.com/allergic-reaction-sexual-development-10947/

  147. @bigdicknick
    the white race is perhaps in the process of "boiling off" the freaks and wimps to become a more concentrated version itself.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    That should leave an even dozen finalists culled from the current crop…..

  148. @Simon Snowlock
    Only white engage in this behavior.

    That tells you something right there

    Replies: @jon, @Reg Cæsar, @Bardon Kaldian, @Radicalcenter, @Dissident, @gent

    Only white engage in this behavior.

    Two whites don’t make a wong. (Or was that, “Two wongs don’t make a white?)

    That tells you something right there

    What about intimacy with tiny ducks? How is that received in communities-of-color?

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  149. @JohnPlywood
    @Mr. Anon

    Keep telling yourself that, if it helps you sleep at night.


    Here are six facts that are confirmed by science:

    Your grandmother is a member of the LGBT community.

    Your mother is a member of the LGBT community.

    Your aunt is a member of the LGBT community.

    Your cousins are members of the LGBT community.

    Your daughter is a member of the LGBT community.

    Anglo-Celtic-Latin countries are approximately 25-50% gayer than Scandinavian countries.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Keep telling yourself that, if it helps you sleep at night.

    Here are six facts that are confirmed by science:

    Keep telling yourself that, if it helps you sleep at night.

    Here are six facts that are confirmed by your posts here.

    You are an idiot.

    You are an idiot.

    You are an idiot.

    You are an idiot.

    You are an idiot.

    You are an idiot.

    • Agree: JMcG
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Mr. Anon

    Just an aside: why so many people here can't keep a civil discussion?

    Or, even more important: why are so many people interested in an interlocutor's person? And think that her/his person is of crucial importance when discussing some issue?

    To me, all present here (any anywhere) mean nothing as human beings of this or that kind & I don't give a hoot about their biographies or personalities. All that matters is the weight of an argument. This includes Steve, whose slices of life are here for all to see.

    First- I don't know Steve. I am absolutely clueless about his inner life. And I don't care (even if we include a tricky issue about inner lives of those closest to us, personally, which is an immensely difficult question).

    Second- even in that case, it has no bearing on whether I agree or not with Steve on some issue just because he is an American, belonging to some generation, having this and not that taste in ..... This goes for any other person.

    Discussion, if it is a discussion & not just a fun of posting comments, a rambling pastime or anything similar, should be as impersonal as possible. Only arguments matter.

    Replies: @Anon, @JMcG, @Mr. Anon, @Paperback Writer

  150. Anonymous[394] • Disclaimer says:
    @Elli

    I know an older man, a cultured gentleman with whom I’ve gone to the opera, whose wife wants to take him to the cleaners in a divorce. So she’s encouraging their teenage daughters to claim to be boys.
     
    In effect, the revenge of Medea, as far as leaving posterity, at least for a middle-aged woman - the middle-aged husband still has a chance. And likely, a bitter, lonely old age.

    Replies: @Pericles, @Anonymous

    Yeah, women are the embittered ones. Certainly not the Men of Unz, who act like the biggest IQ gap is the male female-one, not the black and white one, or the one between me and the Men of Unz. I’d love to have a battle of the g between women and MOUs. I am not suggesting I’m smarter than the average male reader of isteve, so long as that average is > 135. I’m merely suggesting the ones whose dicks got shriveled in a bad relationship average below 115.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
  151. @Mr. Anon
    @JohnPlywood


    Keep telling yourself that, if it helps you sleep at night.

    Here are six facts that are confirmed by science:
     
    Keep telling yourself that, if it helps you sleep at night.

    Here are six facts that are confirmed by your posts here.

    You are an idiot.

    You are an idiot.

    You are an idiot.

    You are an idiot.

    You are an idiot.

    You are an idiot.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Just an aside: why so many people here can’t keep a civil discussion?

    Or, even more important: why are so many people interested in an interlocutor’s person? And think that her/his person is of crucial importance when discussing some issue?

    To me, all present here (any anywhere) mean nothing as human beings of this or that kind & I don’t give a hoot about their biographies or personalities. All that matters is the weight of an argument. This includes Steve, whose slices of life are here for all to see.

    First- I don’t know Steve. I am absolutely clueless about his inner life. And I don’t care (even if we include a tricky issue about inner lives of those closest to us, personally, which is an immensely difficult question).

    Second- even in that case, it has no bearing on whether I agree or not with Steve on some issue just because he is an American, belonging to some generation, having this and not that taste in ….. This goes for any other person.

    Discussion, if it is a discussion & not just a fun of posting comments, a rambling pastime or anything similar, should be as impersonal as possible. Only arguments matter.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Avoiding an excess of ad hominem contributes to a better conversation.

    But we are not robots. Imagine the conversation in Plato’s Symposium if the characters had not known each other. There’s a reason Plato related the wealthy host’s reverence for humble Socrates, or why gorgeous aristocratic what’s-his-name spoke about Socrates’ virtue. It’s interesting to know Hippocrates’ family background. Or why Socrates arrived late.. we’re interested in each other also as human beings. Man is a social creature. We understand family-of-ideas better when we see them played out in real life.

    Even in this weird virtual Unz world.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    , @JMcG
    @Bardon Kaldian

    My impression is that a lot of the commenters at Taki migrated here when that site did away with comments. I don’t remember the current level of nastiness prior to that.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Just an aside: why so many people here can’t keep a civil discussion?
     
    I try to be civil. But I'm not going to be civil with those who aren't civil with me. Commenter John Plywood has often posted insulting comments here.

    Discussion, if it is a discussion & not just a fun of posting comments, a rambling pastime or anything similar, should be as impersonal as possible. Only arguments matter.
     
    That is a naive, perhaps even foolish notion. Arguments matter. But who is making the argument also matters.

    If a friend of yours gives you a detailed and highly convincing argument on why you should buy a car, you might buy it. Would you treat that argument the same if, instead of being your friend, the guy who made it was a used car dealer?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @anon

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Or, even more important: why are so many people interested in an interlocutor’s person? And think that her/his person is of crucial importance when discussing some issue?
     
    Because they're unable to frame a fact-based, logical response and they're basically here to blow off steam. I can put up with the second - I'm here for that, myself - but the first ticks me off.

    There are two tropes that particularly disgust me.

    Any time Steve fisks a stupid article from the MSM, you can bet that a huge percentage of the commenters here will comment on the writer's looks (usually if the writer is female) and/or their fraction of Jewish ancestry.

    I'm not saying that either factor is never germane. I happen to think that there's a grain of truth to the "culture of critique" theory (although it's wildly exaggerated and distorted) but dismissing someone's writing because they're Jewish, and then exempting others *despite* the fact that they're Jewish (many of the excellent writers Steve refers to are Jewish) is cheap, low, illogical, and exposes the commenter as petty and usually worthless.The ignore feature is handy in such cases.

    Likewise snarking about a female journalist's looks has gotten to be cringey. Savage the crappy writing. Shred her stupid arguments. But lay off her looks.

    That said, I've learned a lot from many of the comments here, and reading this webpage has helped me to sharpen a lot of my thinking on current events. It hasn't made me happier, though. You can't have everything.

  152. @Mike_from_SGV
    13 percent of liberals are in that category? Over 1 in 8, wow.
    Of course, what is the exact definition or criterion of lgb? A mere feeling that may or may not be acted on? Or active banging? I can easily imagine someone claiming to be "b" to gain DIE points, but without it changing their actual personal life.

    Replies: @BigTex, @Dissident

    Of course, what is the exact definition or criterion of lgb? A mere feeling that may or may not be acted on? Or active banging?

    That very conflation– of involuntary feelings with voluntary behaviors— is a core component of the propaganda that has been so successfully employed by the LGBTQ lobby.

    A further conflation is that of the specific act of anal penetration with male homoesexuality and homoerotic carnal intercourse, per se. (It goes from an initial dubious assertion– that “homosexuality” (quotation marks to indicate the ambiguity with which the term is used) — almost immediately to the assertion of an inalienable, nearly unlimited right to bugger wantonly at the public’s expense.)
    ~ ~ ~
    Intensifier wrote:

    In crude terms what percentage of these “non binary” and “bisexual” and “pansexual” boys actually regularly engage in anal penetration?

    While that would indeed be an interesting and instructive question in its own right, what, specifically, is its relevance here?

    Is it your contention that the only males who can credibly claim to be bisexual or pansexual are those who regularly engage in anal penetration with another male?

  153. @Simon Snowlock
    Only white engage in this behavior.

    That tells you something right there

    Replies: @jon, @Reg Cæsar, @Bardon Kaldian, @Radicalcenter, @Dissident, @gent

    That’s not true at all, though. Anyone in any city will see rainbow haired mulatresses and fat latino trannies.

  154. anon[270] • Disclaimer says:

    Perhaps we are just finding the population density that results in a behavioral sink…

    https://infogalactic.com/info/Behavioral_sink

    …as described in the conclusion of Calhoun’s mouse utopia.

    https://fee.org/articles/john-b-calhoun-s-mouse-utopia-experiment-and-reflections-on-the-welfare-state/

    The turning point in this mouse utopia, Calhoun observed, occurred on Day 315 when the first signs appeared of a breakdown in social norms and structure. Aberrations included the following: females abandoning their young; males no longer defending their territory; and both sexes becoming more violent and aggressive. Deviant behavior, sexual and social, mounted with each passing day. The last thousand mice to be born tended to avoid stressful activity and focused their attention increasingly on themselves.

  155. @Hereward
    @Paperback Writer

    "I don’t know what to call women who were born 1930-1946."
    Silent generation.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    Which tells you something about names. The Silent Generation created the 60s, not the Boomers. We were their innocent victims, I tell you!

    Anyway, never has a generation had it so good.

  156. @stillCARealist
    @Anon

    Yes, but does pot CAUSE the crazy, or is it smoked BECAUSE of the crazy?

    I'd love to see someone disentangle that, even in a superficial way.

    Another question: Will pot affect your hormones? I hear people criticizing soy as being estrogenic, and so they won't touch it. What about the weed? Will that give you man-boobs or softer whiskers?

    Replies: @Anon, @Paperback Writer

    I’m no expert, having retired from the weed and all other chemicals, including nicotine (except the occasional drink) long ago, but it’s my impression that male potheads are passive dudes w/”issues” to begin with, and the weed compounds & exacerbates their issues.

    The pot being sold today is way stronger than the stuff sold when I was a kid. I believe Berenson goes into that as well, although I haven’t read his book. Too depressing.

  157. @Anon
    @stillCARealist

    https://www.amazon.com/Tell-Your-Children-Marijuana-Violence/dp/1982103663

    Pretty good. I skimmed/read it, so don’t remember about hormones. But many things impact hormonal balance so it could be an issue.

    Cocaine is also reputed to “make” men gay 😂. Which means heavy users are not only desinhibited, but that there is un “unfolding of the personality” that makes such behavior possible. Or so ex-dealers day.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    Here’s what I’ve heard about cocaine. When you’re up, you feel like Superman. When you come off it, you feel really down, so you feel feminine. I can’t explain it better than that, sorry.

    I read the same about Bruce Jenner. He took a lot of PEDs and his way of habituating to being off them was he became convinced he was a woman. I don’t think he was an autogynophile, and he wasn’t the homosexual type of trannie. He was just f’d up by lots of hypermasculinizing drugs.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Paperback Writer


    When you come off it, you feel really down, so you feel feminine. I can’t explain it better than that, sorry.
     
    Sounds plausible.
  158. Anon[280] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    @Mr. Anon

    Just an aside: why so many people here can't keep a civil discussion?

    Or, even more important: why are so many people interested in an interlocutor's person? And think that her/his person is of crucial importance when discussing some issue?

    To me, all present here (any anywhere) mean nothing as human beings of this or that kind & I don't give a hoot about their biographies or personalities. All that matters is the weight of an argument. This includes Steve, whose slices of life are here for all to see.

    First- I don't know Steve. I am absolutely clueless about his inner life. And I don't care (even if we include a tricky issue about inner lives of those closest to us, personally, which is an immensely difficult question).

    Second- even in that case, it has no bearing on whether I agree or not with Steve on some issue just because he is an American, belonging to some generation, having this and not that taste in ..... This goes for any other person.

    Discussion, if it is a discussion & not just a fun of posting comments, a rambling pastime or anything similar, should be as impersonal as possible. Only arguments matter.

    Replies: @Anon, @JMcG, @Mr. Anon, @Paperback Writer

    Avoiding an excess of ad hominem contributes to a better conversation.

    But we are not robots. Imagine the conversation in Plato’s Symposium if the characters had not known each other. There’s a reason Plato related the wealthy host’s reverence for humble Socrates, or why gorgeous aristocratic what’s-his-name spoke about Socrates’ virtue. It’s interesting to know Hippocrates’ family background. Or why Socrates arrived late.. we’re interested in each other also as human beings. Man is a social creature. We understand family-of-ideas better when we see them played out in real life.

    Even in this weird virtual Unz world.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Anon

    Plato's dialogs are art; more, his most important characters, when discussing an issue, do not use "arguments" like "I know what you are getting at, because you are a ..." or "Why do you say this, what is your hidden motive for claiming that ...".

    Simply, such things do not appear in Plato. There are personal, confessional elements- if one wants to say something like that- but never efforts to find some weak, nasty or suspicious personal element in others' positions.

  159. @obwandiyag
    You're way off. The current gay trend started with David Bowie. In 1974, Castro Street was just a street with a movie theater and one little gay pizza place. 1975 and it was like it is now. Think rat-tails and keys.

    Oh, oops, but that's right. You guys like David Bowie. With your charming execrable taste. Sorry.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Paperback Writer

    See the movie “Velvet Goldmine.”

    In the beginning of the movie a girl is asked whether she cares if her boyfriend has sex with other guys. She laughs and says “no.” I thought to myself, “Try that in real life.”

    Christian Bale plays a gay glam-rock journalist. It’s his only bad performance. The guy can’t play gay. I think he was overcompensating by playing “not stereotypically gay” but it just came off as bland and not believable.

  160. Would be interested to see a racial breakdown of this.

    It’s my impression that there’s a LOT of youthful gender-bending among Hispanic women, black women, black men, Hispanic men, in that order. Asians and whites of both sexes follow, with no differences in the sexes in the latter two categories.

  161. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Mr. Anon

    Just an aside: why so many people here can't keep a civil discussion?

    Or, even more important: why are so many people interested in an interlocutor's person? And think that her/his person is of crucial importance when discussing some issue?

    To me, all present here (any anywhere) mean nothing as human beings of this or that kind & I don't give a hoot about their biographies or personalities. All that matters is the weight of an argument. This includes Steve, whose slices of life are here for all to see.

    First- I don't know Steve. I am absolutely clueless about his inner life. And I don't care (even if we include a tricky issue about inner lives of those closest to us, personally, which is an immensely difficult question).

    Second- even in that case, it has no bearing on whether I agree or not with Steve on some issue just because he is an American, belonging to some generation, having this and not that taste in ..... This goes for any other person.

    Discussion, if it is a discussion & not just a fun of posting comments, a rambling pastime or anything similar, should be as impersonal as possible. Only arguments matter.

    Replies: @Anon, @JMcG, @Mr. Anon, @Paperback Writer

    My impression is that a lot of the commenters at Taki migrated here when that site did away with comments. I don’t remember the current level of nastiness prior to that.

  162. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Mr. Anon

    Just an aside: why so many people here can't keep a civil discussion?

    Or, even more important: why are so many people interested in an interlocutor's person? And think that her/his person is of crucial importance when discussing some issue?

    To me, all present here (any anywhere) mean nothing as human beings of this or that kind & I don't give a hoot about their biographies or personalities. All that matters is the weight of an argument. This includes Steve, whose slices of life are here for all to see.

    First- I don't know Steve. I am absolutely clueless about his inner life. And I don't care (even if we include a tricky issue about inner lives of those closest to us, personally, which is an immensely difficult question).

    Second- even in that case, it has no bearing on whether I agree or not with Steve on some issue just because he is an American, belonging to some generation, having this and not that taste in ..... This goes for any other person.

    Discussion, if it is a discussion & not just a fun of posting comments, a rambling pastime or anything similar, should be as impersonal as possible. Only arguments matter.

    Replies: @Anon, @JMcG, @Mr. Anon, @Paperback Writer

    Just an aside: why so many people here can’t keep a civil discussion?

    I try to be civil. But I’m not going to be civil with those who aren’t civil with me. Commenter John Plywood has often posted insulting comments here.

    Discussion, if it is a discussion & not just a fun of posting comments, a rambling pastime or anything similar, should be as impersonal as possible. Only arguments matter.

    That is a naive, perhaps even foolish notion. Arguments matter. But who is making the argument also matters.

    If a friend of yours gives you a detailed and highly convincing argument on why you should buy a car, you might buy it. Would you treat that argument the same if, instead of being your friend, the guy who made it was a used car dealer?

    • Agree: JMcG
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Mr. Anon


    That is a naive, perhaps even foolish notion. Arguments matter. But who is making the argument also matters.

    If a friend of yours gives you a detailed and highly convincing argument on why you should buy a car, you might buy it. Would you treat that argument the same if, instead of being your friend, the guy who made it was a used car dealer?
     
    What kind of example is this?

    If a used car dealer makes a convincing argument, and I am willing to participate in a discussion on the issue, his status has no significance whatsoever. If Pol Pot claims that communism is better than democratic capitalism, a normal man will easily refute his arguments without even referencing he's dealing with a communist mass murderer.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @anon
    @Mr. Anon

    Commenter John Plywood has often posted insulting comments here.

    Isn't that what trolls routinely do? In order to get a response from someone, from anyone?

    These are mere rhetorical questions, pay no attention.

  163. I- Is no one else perplexed by the poll’s categorical, unqualified use of Traditionalist for those “born before 1946”? Isn’t the standard term for that generation, the term that is consistent with the others used in the tables, Silents?

    II- A lot of astute, insightful, and interesting comments. Some pretty witty and funny ones too.

    III- Among the germane and cogent points made is that merely how an individual self-identifies (especially in response to a poll) tells us little about his actual behavior in the area-in-question. Even less about his true desires and proclivities. (And that even the former, in and of itself, is of limited use in revealing the latter. This is especially true for females, for what should be obvious reasons.)

    IV- Concerning male homoeroticism and the question of male bisexuality, a few points:

    1.) Is there not a critical distinction that must be drawn between (A) the adult male who finds homoerotic or romantic appeal in his peers, i.e., in his fellow fully-developed, adult males; and (B) the adult male whose homoerotic proclivities are limited-to younger males who have not yet reached full physical development, i.e., boys, most often those at some stage between early and mid adolescence?

    Can the difference between (A) and (B) be any less profound than

    [MORE]
    the differences between the boys, and the men, that are the respective subjects-of-interests of the two types of man?

    2.) Group B, at least, includes a not-insignificant number of men whose erotic feelings toward boys are in addition to the (more-or-less) normal heterosexual proclivities toward women.

    3.) In both the nature, as well as the prominence of their feelings toward boys (as well as to what extent, if at all, such feelings are acted-upon), there is wide variation among the men within Group B. For at least some, the erotic aspect, while undeniably strong, is nonetheless but a part of a fascination, a love even, that is both far more complex, as well as far more wholesome than any mere carnal lust ever could be. Moreover, even the nature of said lust itself can vary greatly, even wildly, between one man and the next.

    The ardency of my traditionalism, heteronormativity, and opposition to Gay and LGBTQ ideology, identity, politics and culture may place me in a distinct minority within Group B. But not alone.

  164. @Anon
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Avoiding an excess of ad hominem contributes to a better conversation.

    But we are not robots. Imagine the conversation in Plato’s Symposium if the characters had not known each other. There’s a reason Plato related the wealthy host’s reverence for humble Socrates, or why gorgeous aristocratic what’s-his-name spoke about Socrates’ virtue. It’s interesting to know Hippocrates’ family background. Or why Socrates arrived late.. we’re interested in each other also as human beings. Man is a social creature. We understand family-of-ideas better when we see them played out in real life.

    Even in this weird virtual Unz world.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Plato’s dialogs are art; more, his most important characters, when discussing an issue, do not use “arguments” like “I know what you are getting at, because you are a …” or “Why do you say this, what is your hidden motive for claiming that …”.

    Simply, such things do not appear in Plato. There are personal, confessional elements- if one wants to say something like that- but never efforts to find some weak, nasty or suspicious personal element in others’ positions.

  165. @Mr. Anon
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Just an aside: why so many people here can’t keep a civil discussion?
     
    I try to be civil. But I'm not going to be civil with those who aren't civil with me. Commenter John Plywood has often posted insulting comments here.

    Discussion, if it is a discussion & not just a fun of posting comments, a rambling pastime or anything similar, should be as impersonal as possible. Only arguments matter.
     
    That is a naive, perhaps even foolish notion. Arguments matter. But who is making the argument also matters.

    If a friend of yours gives you a detailed and highly convincing argument on why you should buy a car, you might buy it. Would you treat that argument the same if, instead of being your friend, the guy who made it was a used car dealer?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @anon

    That is a naive, perhaps even foolish notion. Arguments matter. But who is making the argument also matters.

    If a friend of yours gives you a detailed and highly convincing argument on why you should buy a car, you might buy it. Would you treat that argument the same if, instead of being your friend, the guy who made it was a used car dealer?

    What kind of example is this?

    If a used car dealer makes a convincing argument, and I am willing to participate in a discussion on the issue, his status has no significance whatsoever. If Pol Pot claims that communism is better than democratic capitalism, a normal man will easily refute his arguments without even referencing he’s dealing with a communist mass murderer.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Bardon Kaldian


    What kind of example is this?
     
    A relevant one.

    Happy motoring with that Edsel, Bardon. It was only driven on Sundays by a little old lady from Pasadena.
  166. @Mr. Anon
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Just an aside: why so many people here can’t keep a civil discussion?
     
    I try to be civil. But I'm not going to be civil with those who aren't civil with me. Commenter John Plywood has often posted insulting comments here.

    Discussion, if it is a discussion & not just a fun of posting comments, a rambling pastime or anything similar, should be as impersonal as possible. Only arguments matter.
     
    That is a naive, perhaps even foolish notion. Arguments matter. But who is making the argument also matters.

    If a friend of yours gives you a detailed and highly convincing argument on why you should buy a car, you might buy it. Would you treat that argument the same if, instead of being your friend, the guy who made it was a used car dealer?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @anon

    Commenter John Plywood has often posted insulting comments here.

    Isn’t that what trolls routinely do? In order to get a response from someone, from anyone?

    These are mere rhetorical questions, pay no attention.

  167. @Mr. Anon
    @JohnPlywood


    (Note that the Swedish men were the least gay out of all the participants, a real thorn in the side for all the anti-Swedish closet fags on the Anglophone Far Right)
     
    There are none. I don't expect anything else you said in that post is any more correct than that. I don't recall that you've ever written a true sentence in the entire time you've been posting here. You're an idiot.

    Replies: @JohnPlywood, @The Soft Parade

    @John Plywood
    I don’t recall that you’ve ever written a true sentence in the entire time you’ve been posting here. You’re an idiot.

    Never, NEVER call JP an idiot. He will simply think you don’t mean it.

    However, he can and does identify with “buttnugget.” Be nice.

  168. @Paperback Writer
    @Anon

    Here's what I've heard about cocaine. When you're up, you feel like Superman. When you come off it, you feel really down, so you feel feminine. I can't explain it better than that, sorry.

    I read the same about Bruce Jenner. He took a lot of PEDs and his way of habituating to being off them was he became convinced he was a woman. I don't think he was an autogynophile, and he wasn't the homosexual type of trannie. He was just f'd up by lots of hypermasculinizing drugs.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    When you come off it, you feel really down, so you feel feminine. I can’t explain it better than that, sorry.

    Sounds plausible.

  169. @anonymous
    Gen Z, the fresh meat, numbers seem really high. It used to be that owning up to being gay was a very bad thing indeed. Calling someone a fag is probably the single most popular putdown. So what happened? I would guess it's the educational system conditioning bearing fruit after all these years. Wonder what's in the "other" category.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @anon, @dfordoom

    Gen Z, the fresh meat, numbers seem really high. It used to be that owning up to being gay was a very bad thing indeed. Calling someone a fag is probably the single most popular putdown. So what happened?

    Social media is what happened.

    That’s the main driving force. If you want to be popular on social media it’s pretty much essential to be LGBTwhatever.

    That’s why the trans epidemic has hit the young so hard. Young people are desperate to be popular on social media. They will do anything to get more “friends” and “likes” – anything at all.

    If you’re a teenager and you admit to being heterosexual on social media you’ll suffer massive defriending and you’ll be labelled a Nazi.

    The really evil thing is not just social media, but the fact as a result of ubiquitous social media young people don’t have much in the way of real-life social networks. Many don’t have any real-life social networks at all. So they are incredibly vulnerable to pressure on social media.

    Social media may well be the greatest evil that has ever afflicted our civilisation.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @dfordoom


    Social media may well be the greatest evil that has ever afflicted our civilisation.
     
    At least since TV.

    Replies: @dfordoom

  170. @Anonymous
    @S. Anonyia

    >Very disturbing that there are more self-identified transgenders than lesbians among 2 generational cohorts.

    The numbers are astounding any way you look at it but likely a lot of this is explained by the proliferation in meaningless 'third' genders available for self-survey. 'Queer,' 'Gender non-conforming,' 'bi-gender,' etc. Essentially fashion statements. Not all of them are medically transitioning with hormones and surgery.

    Replies: @jon, @dfordoom

    The numbers are astounding any way you look at it but likely a lot of this is explained by the proliferation in meaningless ‘third’ genders available for self-survey. ‘Queer,’ ‘Gender non-conforming,’ ‘bi-gender,’ etc. Essentially fashion statements.

    Yep. I agree.

    And those fashions are driven almost entirely by social media. Take social media out of the equation and the proportion of Zoomers who were LGBT would drop to around 1%.

    Every generation uses social media but the younger you are the more dependent you are on social media for your sense of self-worth, and for a sense of belonging. This is especially true for women because women have a greater need for social approval.

    A Boomer will be mildly upset (or possibly just amused) if she gets defriended on social media. An 18-year-old might well kill herself.

    So for Zoomers (especially Zoomer women) the best defence against the almost unimaginable terror of being defriended is to pretend to be LGBTwhatever by identifying as gender non-conforming. That means she gets to keep her social media friends and she can continue to get lots of Likes but she can still have sex exclusively with men.

    The real danger is that these vulnerable young people can succumb to social media pressure to start taking puberty-blockers, which will end up ruining their whole lives.

  171. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Mr. Anon


    That is a naive, perhaps even foolish notion. Arguments matter. But who is making the argument also matters.

    If a friend of yours gives you a detailed and highly convincing argument on why you should buy a car, you might buy it. Would you treat that argument the same if, instead of being your friend, the guy who made it was a used car dealer?
     
    What kind of example is this?

    If a used car dealer makes a convincing argument, and I am willing to participate in a discussion on the issue, his status has no significance whatsoever. If Pol Pot claims that communism is better than democratic capitalism, a normal man will easily refute his arguments without even referencing he's dealing with a communist mass murderer.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    What kind of example is this?

    A relevant one.

    Happy motoring with that Edsel, Bardon. It was only driven on Sundays by a little old lady from Pasadena.

  172. REAL HERMAPHRODITES ARE TRANGENDERED. A TRANSVESTITE IS NOT TRANSGENDERED.
    GENDER DOES NOT DEFINE SEXUAL PREFERENCE.
    LIARS ARE NOT A SEXUAL ORIENTATION.

  173. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Mr. Anon

    Just an aside: why so many people here can't keep a civil discussion?

    Or, even more important: why are so many people interested in an interlocutor's person? And think that her/his person is of crucial importance when discussing some issue?

    To me, all present here (any anywhere) mean nothing as human beings of this or that kind & I don't give a hoot about their biographies or personalities. All that matters is the weight of an argument. This includes Steve, whose slices of life are here for all to see.

    First- I don't know Steve. I am absolutely clueless about his inner life. And I don't care (even if we include a tricky issue about inner lives of those closest to us, personally, which is an immensely difficult question).

    Second- even in that case, it has no bearing on whether I agree or not with Steve on some issue just because he is an American, belonging to some generation, having this and not that taste in ..... This goes for any other person.

    Discussion, if it is a discussion & not just a fun of posting comments, a rambling pastime or anything similar, should be as impersonal as possible. Only arguments matter.

    Replies: @Anon, @JMcG, @Mr. Anon, @Paperback Writer

    Or, even more important: why are so many people interested in an interlocutor’s person? And think that her/his person is of crucial importance when discussing some issue?

    Because they’re unable to frame a fact-based, logical response and they’re basically here to blow off steam. I can put up with the second – I’m here for that, myself – but the first ticks me off.

    There are two tropes that particularly disgust me.

    Any time Steve fisks a stupid article from the MSM, you can bet that a huge percentage of the commenters here will comment on the writer’s looks (usually if the writer is female) and/or their fraction of Jewish ancestry.

    I’m not saying that either factor is never germane. I happen to think that there’s a grain of truth to the “culture of critique” theory (although it’s wildly exaggerated and distorted) but dismissing someone’s writing because they’re Jewish, and then exempting others *despite* the fact that they’re Jewish (many of the excellent writers Steve refers to are Jewish) is cheap, low, illogical, and exposes the commenter as petty and usually worthless.The ignore feature is handy in such cases.

    Likewise snarking about a female journalist’s looks has gotten to be cringey. Savage the crappy writing. Shred her stupid arguments. But lay off her looks.

    That said, I’ve learned a lot from many of the comments here, and reading this webpage has helped me to sharpen a lot of my thinking on current events. It hasn’t made me happier, though. You can’t have everything.

    • Agree: Dissident
  174. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Simon Snowlock

    I think you are wrong.

    Actually, the highest trans m>f "movement" is among mulattoes in Brazil & yellow-brown people in Indo-China.

    Perhaps 80% of the transgenderistas are m>f, and mulattoes absolutely dominate. Why are mulattoes so into it, I am clueless....

    Some links not exactly corroborating this, but still ...

    https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/race-ethnicity-trans-adults-us/

    Race and Ethnicity of Adults Who Identify as Transgender in the United States

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5227939/

    Transgender Demographics: A Household Probability Sample of US Adults, 2014

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-81411-4

    Proportion of people identified as transgender and non-binary gender in Brazil

    https://raceandequality.org/english/brazil-is-the-country-with-the-greatest-number-of-assassinations-of-trans-persons-in-the-world/

    Brazil is the country with the greatest number of assassinations of trans persons in the world

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    Thanks for those links. It totally accords with what I’ve seen in NYC. Now I’d love to see if there are any numbers on kids.

    You’ve got a link for trans adults – logically I’d assume that the #s for trans kids, which is what we’re discussing, is even more extreme. But we don’t know for sure unless we get the numbers.

    Asso: let’s weight these percentages. Black Americans are 12% of the adult population but 16% of the transgender population. Hispanics, 15/21.

    That makes a big difference visually.

  175. @jon
    @Anonymous


    likely a lot of this is explained by the proliferation in meaningless ‘third’ genders available for self-survey
     
    It would be interesting to get a breakdown of all of the "trans" into what specific gender they are claiming, including whether this alternative gender identity will involve any hormones or surgeries. Same for the bi/poly/pan category - how many of them are having actual sexual relations with multiple genders, and how often (i.e. is it just some one time adventure, and then they are 'bi' for life).

    I agree that a lot of this increase is probably just being fashionable. If homosexuals struggled to marry and have a family, even when failing to do so meant death or something else horrible, then it seems unlikely that straights are suddenly able to go the opposite direction long-term just because of peer-pressure.

    Replies: @Dissident

    I concur fully with all that you have written, up until the following, which, while not necessarily disagreeing with, would challenge somewhat. Or at least add to.

    If homosexuals struggled to marry and have a family, even when failing to do so meant death or something else horrible, then it seems unlikely that straights are suddenly able to go the opposite direction long-term just because of peer-pressure.

    Granted, for an individual for whom the directions of his sexual attraction is unambiguous, it would indeed hardly seem plausible that he would be able to transform them on a dime.*

    But what about individuals whose sexual feelings may be confused or conflicting, especially adolescents still in their formative years? Is there not a real danger that the mere act of publicly “coming-out” and identifying oneself sexually can influence one’s subsequent behavior and even desires? For, is it not axiomatic that whenever one labels oneself as belonging-to a particular identity— be it an ideological, social, religious, or (as in this case), sexual identity, one then becomes beholden to it, and (often perhaps subconsciously) chooses and tailors both his views and public positions, as well as his behaviors, in order to conform with it?

    I have seen comments online in which an individual who identified as Gay suggested that it was not inconceivable to him that he might be able to enjoy sexual intimacy with a woman,

    [MORE]
    but then added something along the lines of, “But at this point, I’ve identified and lived as gay for so long that I can’t see myself ‘changing sides’.” The implication, at least, was that the barriers and inhibitions to exploring heterosexuality were not so much anything inherent in their biology or psyche but rather (and even almost entirely) social, political and even ideological.

    Would we not do best to encourage and advise young people to at least delay labeling themselves sexually?

    *Though the absolute insistence, mandated by the prevailing orthodoxy (political, social, psychiatric, educational, etc.), that no one who finds himself exclusively attracted to the same sex can ever achieve even a considerable degree of success in redirecting their desires toward the opposite-sex, would clearly appear to be little more than a doctrinaire assertion. At the very least, there would appear to be considerable anecdotal evidence that given sufficient determination and commitment, at least some such individuals could at least reach a degree of transformation in their proclivities sufficient to enable the establishment and maintaining of a successful sexual relationship with a member of the opposite sex. There may be clinical evidence as well. The problem, of course, is that the prevailing Woke orthodoxy does not permit any honest, objective investigation in this area– one in which the only results accepted are those that confirm what are predetermined conclusions.

    Consider, as well, the case of John Maynard Keynes, as presented by none other than our gracious host himself, Mr. Steve Sailer, back in this 2013 piece.

    Keynes (1883-1946) betrayed today’s conventional wisdom by doing the supposedly impossible: he converted, permanently, from a homosexual lifestyle to a heterosexual lifestyle when—to the shock and dismay of his former Bloomsbury boyfriends—he married the popular ballerina Lydia Lopokova in 1925.

    He wasn’t under any particular social or career pressure at the time. He just switched his affections.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Dissident

    I've got a biography of Keynes sitting around. The book starts with an endearing account of Keynes at 38 suddenly falling in love with a woman for the first time in his life. It's a nice way to start.

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson

    , @dfordoom
    @Dissident


    Is there not a real danger that the mere act of publicly “coming-out” and identifying oneself sexually can influence one’s subsequent behavior and even desires? For, is it not axiomatic that whenever one labels oneself as belonging-to a particular identity— be it an ideological, social, religious, or (as in this case), sexual identity, one then becomes beholden to it, and (often perhaps subconsciously) chooses and tailors both his views and public positions, as well as his behaviors, in order to conform with it?
     
    I agree.

    We don't honestly know to what extent our sexual preferences may be influenced by or modified by culture. I'm not just talking about whether we're attracted to the opposite sex or the same sex. Sexuality in general, even down to things like our ideas on what constitutes sexual attractiveness, may well be heavily influenced by culture. Even things like whether we prefer brunettes or blondes may be to some extent culturally determined.

    And yes, once you choose an identity you are likely to do things that reinforce that identity.

    Was the 1950s obsession with busty blondes a reflection of some genetic change in men, or was it purely an artificial cultural creation? Did men start assuming that of course busty blondes were desirable because busty blondes were presented in popular culture as the idea of female attractiveness?

    And what about odd sexual quirks, like a fetish for stilettos? That has to be entirely cultural because before stiletto heels were invented it was obviously not possible to have such a sexual fetish.

    I don't think that there's such a thing as polyamorous genderqueers but if you decide to adopt that as your identity you are likely to make choices that reinforce that identity. You will start behaving like a polyamorous genderqueer. So an entirely mythical identity becomes more and more real to that person.

    So it seems likely that sexual fetishes and sexual identities can be manufactured.

    We just don't know to what extent culture affects our sexuality so it's dangerous to encourage vulnerable young people to adopt identities that may be wrong for them or may even be entirely imaginary.

    And being confused about sex is part and parcel of being an adolescent.
    , @Paperback Writer
    @Dissident

    What's happening now is (among other things):

    1. Kids are, as Andrew Sullivan calls it "identity slumming." That would be no big deal except that now, as opposed to 1946, being gay is considered genetic, something that you are born with. Sullivan ignores that.

    2. As you allude to, there's something of a gay economy that keeps gay men from leaving. When keeping all of your friends and your job depends on these associations, leaving entails risk. You'll get canceled, and brutally.

  176. @Dissident
    @jon

    I concur fully with all that you have written, up until the following, which, while not necessarily disagreeing with, would challenge somewhat. Or at least add to.


    If homosexuals struggled to marry and have a family, even when failing to do so meant death or something else horrible, then it seems unlikely that straights are suddenly able to go the opposite direction long-term just because of peer-pressure.
     
    Granted, for an individual for whom the directions of his sexual attraction is unambiguous, it would indeed hardly seem plausible that he would be able to transform them on a dime.*

    But what about individuals whose sexual feelings may be confused or conflicting, especially adolescents still in their formative years? Is there not a real danger that the mere act of publicly "coming-out" and identifying oneself sexually can influence one's subsequent behavior and even desires? For, is it not axiomatic that whenever one labels oneself as belonging-to a particular identity-- be it an ideological, social, religious, or (as in this case), sexual identity, one then becomes beholden to it, and (often perhaps subconsciously) chooses and tailors both his views and public positions, as well as his behaviors, in order to conform with it?

    I have seen comments online in which an individual who identified as Gay suggested that it was not inconceivable to him that he might be able to enjoy sexual intimacy with a woman, but then added something along the lines of, "But at this point, I've identified and lived as gay for so long that I can't see myself 'changing sides'." The implication, at least, was that the barriers and inhibitions to exploring heterosexuality were not so much anything inherent in their biology or psyche but rather (and even almost entirely) social, political and even ideological.

    Would we not do best to encourage and advise young people to at least delay labeling themselves sexually?

    *Though the absolute insistence, mandated by the prevailing orthodoxy (political, social, psychiatric, educational, etc.), that no one who finds himself exclusively attracted to the same sex can ever achieve even a considerable degree of success in redirecting their desires toward the opposite-sex, would clearly appear to be little more than a doctrinaire assertion. At the very least, there would appear to be considerable anecdotal evidence that given sufficient determination and commitment, at least some such individuals could at least reach a degree of transformation in their proclivities sufficient to enable the establishment and maintaining of a successful sexual relationship with a member of the opposite sex. There may be clinical evidence as well. The problem, of course, is that the prevailing Woke orthodoxy does not permit any honest, objective investigation in this area-- one in which the only results accepted are those that confirm what are predetermined conclusions.

    Consider, as well, the case of John Maynard Keynes, as presented by none other than our gracious host himself, Mr. Steve Sailer, back in this 2013 piece.


    Keynes (1883-1946) betrayed today’s conventional wisdom by doing the supposedly impossible: he converted, permanently, from a homosexual lifestyle to a heterosexual lifestyle when—to the shock and dismay of his former Bloomsbury boyfriends—he married the popular ballerina Lydia Lopokova in 1925.

    He wasn’t under any particular social or career pressure at the time. He just switched his affections.
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @dfordoom, @Paperback Writer

    I’ve got a biography of Keynes sitting around. The book starts with an endearing account of Keynes at 38 suddenly falling in love with a woman for the first time in his life. It’s a nice way to start.

    • Replies: @Rockford Tyson
    @Steve Sailer

    This is true. Keynes was not technically gay, although romantically he was slightly more attracted to males than females. But physically, the man was aroused by both genders. Another man like that was mathematician, John Nash. He was arrested not once, but two times for indecent exposure with men in public bathrooms, where he "cruised" ocasionally. However, he also actively chased woman and ended up falling in love with one and having kids with her.

    Most bisexual men just claim to be gay because most people simply refuse to believe that male bisexuality is a thing. The sex researcher, Michael Bailey, claimed that bisexual men did not exist and that they showed a pattern of either heterosexual or homosexual attraction. He came to this conclusion from studying volunteers that he recruited at a gay dating site.

    He then re-made his study with more stringent criteria. Thsi time, he recruited the volunteers from groups of support for bisexual people. This time, he found out that over half of all the men who claimed to be bisexual actually were bisexual and showed a clear pattern of bisexual arousal. To put it bluntly, they got erections from watching both gay porn as well as lesbian porn.

    Bisexual men, like Keynes, Nash and Lord Byron, tend to be strange people. They tend to be not obviously feminine like gay men, and tend to be a lot more similar to heterosexual men in voice, mannerisms, body language and attitude. They tend to be stereotypically masculine, unlike gay men who tend to be feminine to some degree or another. However, bisexual men are also different from straight men in other ways. They tend to be artistic, behemian, and to have eclectic people-person personalities. They also tend to be genuinelly interested in both stereotypically masculine and feminine things. Such as, for instance, be huge boxing fans but also a lot into fashion. Ot being a fighter pilot and a lot into painting. For instanc,e they say that Herman Goering was bisexual. Unlike Rohm, he was able to hide it and function. He was the most condecorated German fighter pilot in WW1, but was also an art fanatic that liked to pain his nails and wear wigs. Bisexual men are strange people.

  177. @Dissident
    @jon

    I concur fully with all that you have written, up until the following, which, while not necessarily disagreeing with, would challenge somewhat. Or at least add to.


    If homosexuals struggled to marry and have a family, even when failing to do so meant death or something else horrible, then it seems unlikely that straights are suddenly able to go the opposite direction long-term just because of peer-pressure.
     
    Granted, for an individual for whom the directions of his sexual attraction is unambiguous, it would indeed hardly seem plausible that he would be able to transform them on a dime.*

    But what about individuals whose sexual feelings may be confused or conflicting, especially adolescents still in their formative years? Is there not a real danger that the mere act of publicly "coming-out" and identifying oneself sexually can influence one's subsequent behavior and even desires? For, is it not axiomatic that whenever one labels oneself as belonging-to a particular identity-- be it an ideological, social, religious, or (as in this case), sexual identity, one then becomes beholden to it, and (often perhaps subconsciously) chooses and tailors both his views and public positions, as well as his behaviors, in order to conform with it?

    I have seen comments online in which an individual who identified as Gay suggested that it was not inconceivable to him that he might be able to enjoy sexual intimacy with a woman, but then added something along the lines of, "But at this point, I've identified and lived as gay for so long that I can't see myself 'changing sides'." The implication, at least, was that the barriers and inhibitions to exploring heterosexuality were not so much anything inherent in their biology or psyche but rather (and even almost entirely) social, political and even ideological.

    Would we not do best to encourage and advise young people to at least delay labeling themselves sexually?

    *Though the absolute insistence, mandated by the prevailing orthodoxy (political, social, psychiatric, educational, etc.), that no one who finds himself exclusively attracted to the same sex can ever achieve even a considerable degree of success in redirecting their desires toward the opposite-sex, would clearly appear to be little more than a doctrinaire assertion. At the very least, there would appear to be considerable anecdotal evidence that given sufficient determination and commitment, at least some such individuals could at least reach a degree of transformation in their proclivities sufficient to enable the establishment and maintaining of a successful sexual relationship with a member of the opposite sex. There may be clinical evidence as well. The problem, of course, is that the prevailing Woke orthodoxy does not permit any honest, objective investigation in this area-- one in which the only results accepted are those that confirm what are predetermined conclusions.

    Consider, as well, the case of John Maynard Keynes, as presented by none other than our gracious host himself, Mr. Steve Sailer, back in this 2013 piece.


    Keynes (1883-1946) betrayed today’s conventional wisdom by doing the supposedly impossible: he converted, permanently, from a homosexual lifestyle to a heterosexual lifestyle when—to the shock and dismay of his former Bloomsbury boyfriends—he married the popular ballerina Lydia Lopokova in 1925.

    He wasn’t under any particular social or career pressure at the time. He just switched his affections.
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @dfordoom, @Paperback Writer

    Is there not a real danger that the mere act of publicly “coming-out” and identifying oneself sexually can influence one’s subsequent behavior and even desires? For, is it not axiomatic that whenever one labels oneself as belonging-to a particular identity— be it an ideological, social, religious, or (as in this case), sexual identity, one then becomes beholden to it, and (often perhaps subconsciously) chooses and tailors both his views and public positions, as well as his behaviors, in order to conform with it?

    I agree.

    We don’t honestly know to what extent our sexual preferences may be influenced by or modified by culture. I’m not just talking about whether we’re attracted to the opposite sex or the same sex. Sexuality in general, even down to things like our ideas on what constitutes sexual attractiveness, may well be heavily influenced by culture. Even things like whether we prefer brunettes or blondes may be to some extent culturally determined.

    And yes, once you choose an identity you are likely to do things that reinforce that identity.

    Was the 1950s obsession with busty blondes a reflection of some genetic change in men, or was it purely an artificial cultural creation? Did men start assuming that of course busty blondes were desirable because busty blondes were presented in popular culture as the idea of female attractiveness?

    And what about odd sexual quirks, like a fetish for stilettos? That has to be entirely cultural because before stiletto heels were invented it was obviously not possible to have such a sexual fetish.

    I don’t think that there’s such a thing as polyamorous genderqueers but if you decide to adopt that as your identity you are likely to make choices that reinforce that identity. You will start behaving like a polyamorous genderqueer. So an entirely mythical identity becomes more and more real to that person.

    So it seems likely that sexual fetishes and sexual identities can be manufactured.

    We just don’t know to what extent culture affects our sexuality so it’s dangerous to encourage vulnerable young people to adopt identities that may be wrong for them or may even be entirely imaginary.

    And being confused about sex is part and parcel of being an adolescent.

    • Agree: Dissident
  178. Bio of Mrs. Keynes that also gives Niall Ferguson a rap on the knuckles, so twofer:

    https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2013/may/06/niall-ferguson-keynes-marriage-sex

    • Thanks: Dissident
  179. @Dissident
    @jon

    I concur fully with all that you have written, up until the following, which, while not necessarily disagreeing with, would challenge somewhat. Or at least add to.


    If homosexuals struggled to marry and have a family, even when failing to do so meant death or something else horrible, then it seems unlikely that straights are suddenly able to go the opposite direction long-term just because of peer-pressure.
     
    Granted, for an individual for whom the directions of his sexual attraction is unambiguous, it would indeed hardly seem plausible that he would be able to transform them on a dime.*

    But what about individuals whose sexual feelings may be confused or conflicting, especially adolescents still in their formative years? Is there not a real danger that the mere act of publicly "coming-out" and identifying oneself sexually can influence one's subsequent behavior and even desires? For, is it not axiomatic that whenever one labels oneself as belonging-to a particular identity-- be it an ideological, social, religious, or (as in this case), sexual identity, one then becomes beholden to it, and (often perhaps subconsciously) chooses and tailors both his views and public positions, as well as his behaviors, in order to conform with it?

    I have seen comments online in which an individual who identified as Gay suggested that it was not inconceivable to him that he might be able to enjoy sexual intimacy with a woman, but then added something along the lines of, "But at this point, I've identified and lived as gay for so long that I can't see myself 'changing sides'." The implication, at least, was that the barriers and inhibitions to exploring heterosexuality were not so much anything inherent in their biology or psyche but rather (and even almost entirely) social, political and even ideological.

    Would we not do best to encourage and advise young people to at least delay labeling themselves sexually?

    *Though the absolute insistence, mandated by the prevailing orthodoxy (political, social, psychiatric, educational, etc.), that no one who finds himself exclusively attracted to the same sex can ever achieve even a considerable degree of success in redirecting their desires toward the opposite-sex, would clearly appear to be little more than a doctrinaire assertion. At the very least, there would appear to be considerable anecdotal evidence that given sufficient determination and commitment, at least some such individuals could at least reach a degree of transformation in their proclivities sufficient to enable the establishment and maintaining of a successful sexual relationship with a member of the opposite sex. There may be clinical evidence as well. The problem, of course, is that the prevailing Woke orthodoxy does not permit any honest, objective investigation in this area-- one in which the only results accepted are those that confirm what are predetermined conclusions.

    Consider, as well, the case of John Maynard Keynes, as presented by none other than our gracious host himself, Mr. Steve Sailer, back in this 2013 piece.


    Keynes (1883-1946) betrayed today’s conventional wisdom by doing the supposedly impossible: he converted, permanently, from a homosexual lifestyle to a heterosexual lifestyle when—to the shock and dismay of his former Bloomsbury boyfriends—he married the popular ballerina Lydia Lopokova in 1925.

    He wasn’t under any particular social or career pressure at the time. He just switched his affections.
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @dfordoom, @Paperback Writer

    What’s happening now is (among other things):

    1. Kids are, as Andrew Sullivan calls it “identity slumming.” That would be no big deal except that now, as opposed to 1946, being gay is considered genetic, something that you are born with. Sullivan ignores that.

    2. As you allude to, there’s something of a gay economy that keeps gay men from leaving. When keeping all of your friends and your job depends on these associations, leaving entails risk. You’ll get canceled, and brutally.

  180. Speaking of gays, are *all* Never Trumpers gay or does it just seem that way? Because that crowd could give a ballet company a run for its money:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/polarized-tim-miller-bulwark-gop-conservative-trump-republican-party-bernie-sanders-a9336766.html

  181. And, no, it’s not mature adults finally developing the courage to come out of the closet that’s behind this 60% increase in the share of the public identifying as LGBT from 2012 to 2020, it’s recruitment of fresh meat young bodies.
    ‘—- ———–

    This is not so at all. The increases in white LGBT are perfectly explainable in terms of evolutionary theory. It has been documented for some time now that gays tend on the average to have higher IQs than straights, as do liberals over conservatives. This is linked to a taste for the novel.” White IQs have been continually rising and would reflect this white evolutionary shift towards increased homosexuality.

    Some studies (Rogers and Turner 1991) report higher rates of homosexual activity among whites than blacks. Remafedi, Resnic Blum and Harris (1992) also find same sex attraction some 3 times higher in Whites than Blacks. Yet another study confirms white leadership in homosexuality. A National AIDS Behavioral Survey study (NABS), reported by Binson et al (1995) shows that 9.1% of white men, 3.1% of Black men, 2.7 percent of Hispanic men, and 2.3 percent of Asian/other had had same-sex action. In essence whites were 3 times more likely than blacks to be engaging in homosexual acts. Indeed, the NABS study OVERSAMPLED Black and Hispanic men but still showed higher rates of white activity. In another study based on vascular risk factors Krieger and Sidney (1997) reported white women and men were more likely to have had homosexual or bisexual contact than either black men or black women. In essence whites were twice as likely to be engaged in homosexual behavior than blacks.

    Indeed according to some studies, homosexuals post higher IQs than straights. [i](John P. De Cecco, Michael G. Shively (1984) Bisexual and homosexual identities: critical theoretical issues. Routledge)[/i]. Alan Soble (1997) [i]Sex, love, and friendship: studies of the Society for the Philosophy of Sex. Rodopi. pp. 77[/i]) lists several studies attesting to higher homosexual IQs, with most of the subjects in said studies being white. (See also James Weinrich, (1976). Human Reproductive Strategy. HARVARD UNIVERSITY DISSERTATION. p. 203-15).

    The above does not rule out fresh white meat recruitment, but this phenomena, pushed on college campuses or lower level schools by mostly white activists and administrators, is itself part of the fresh meat recruitment. This situation may not be too bad except for the fact that more white homosexuality reduces the opportunity or actuality of whites reproducing their numbers. In the long-term it bodes ill for the white race and its continued demographic decline. But higher IQs have a significant social determinant effect, as demonstrated by Charles Murray and others.

    The shift in white evolution is also reflected in increasing white transgenderism, as new gender orientations and modalities are amplified across higher IQ levels.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @Goy Chi Minh


    Some studies (Rogers and Turner 1991) report higher rates of homosexual activity among whites than blacks. Remafedi, Resnic Blum and Harris (1992) also find same sex attraction some 3 times higher in Whites than Blacks. Yet another study confirms white leadership in homosexuality. A National AIDS Behavioral Survey study (NABS), reported by Binson et al (1995) shows that 9.1% of white men, 3.1% of Black men, 2.7 percent of Hispanic men, and 2.3 percent of Asian/other had had same-sex action. In essence whites were 3 times more likely than blacks to be engaging in homosexual acts.
     
    To what extent did those studies rely on self-reporting? Would you not expect blacks to be considerably less likely than whites to admit-to "engaging in homosexual acts"?

    (Being outstanding for its favorable reception toward openly homosexual individuals is not something I've ever heard the black community accused of...)


    This situation may not be too bad except for the fact that more white homosexuality reduces the opportunity or actuality of whites producing their numbers.
     
    (Didn't you mean "reproducing their numbers")

    1.) Aside from any concerns over reproduction, there are numerous compelling, objective arguments against condoning, much less normalizing, less still promoting, celebrating and glorifying homosexuality.

    2.) Mere toleration of such indulgence so long as it remains discreet and not, as the buggery that is endemic in the male Gay community most certainly is, inordinately disease-promoting, and within other reasonable boundaries? I am aware of no one (at least in the West) in any position to enact or influence policy who would argue for less than that.

    3.) Objectively, there is no equivalent to the sexual union of a man and a woman, and a society built-upon and centered around said union. To pretend otherwise is utter folly that ultimately does no one any good.

  182. @Redneck farmer
    @Anon

    A lot of MtF trannies apparently skip the painful part of "transitioning".

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    A lot of MtF trannies apparently skip the painful part of “transitioning”.

    Yeah, if these morons want to be treated as females, then they should cut off their dick and balls at least. Otherwise they’re just larping. They strike me as angry people who just want to humiliate others by making them acknowledge and celebrate their braveness.

    FOAD. And take the resentful blacks with you.

  183. @dfordoom
    @anonymous


    Gen Z, the fresh meat, numbers seem really high. It used to be that owning up to being gay was a very bad thing indeed. Calling someone a fag is probably the single most popular putdown. So what happened?
     
    Social media is what happened.

    That's the main driving force. If you want to be popular on social media it's pretty much essential to be LGBTwhatever.

    That's why the trans epidemic has hit the young so hard. Young people are desperate to be popular on social media. They will do anything to get more "friends" and "likes" - anything at all.

    If you're a teenager and you admit to being heterosexual on social media you'll suffer massive defriending and you'll be labelled a Nazi.

    The really evil thing is not just social media, but the fact as a result of ubiquitous social media young people don't have much in the way of real-life social networks. Many don't have any real-life social networks at all. So they are incredibly vulnerable to pressure on social media.

    Social media may well be the greatest evil that has ever afflicted our civilisation.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Social media may well be the greatest evil that has ever afflicted our civilisation.

    At least since TV.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Jim Don Bob



    Social media may well be the greatest evil that has ever afflicted our civilisation.
     
    At least since TV.
     
    Social media represents a social revolution that is a whole order of magnitude more significant than that represented by TV. And a whole order of magnitude more sinister in its effects.
  184. @Jim Don Bob
    @dfordoom


    Social media may well be the greatest evil that has ever afflicted our civilisation.
     
    At least since TV.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    Social media may well be the greatest evil that has ever afflicted our civilisation.

    At least since TV.

    Social media represents a social revolution that is a whole order of magnitude more significant than that represented by TV. And a whole order of magnitude more sinister in its effects.

  185. @Goy Chi Minh
    And, no, it’s not mature adults finally developing the courage to come out of the closet that’s behind this 60% increase in the share of the public identifying as LGBT from 2012 to 2020, it’s recruitment of fresh meat young bodies.
    '---- -----------

    This is not so at all. The increases in white LGBT are perfectly explainable in terms of evolutionary theory. It has been documented for some time now that gays tend on the average to have higher IQs than straights, as do liberals over conservatives. This is linked to a taste for the novel." White IQs have been continually rising and would reflect this white evolutionary shift towards increased homosexuality.

    Some studies (Rogers and Turner 1991) report higher rates of homosexual activity among whites than blacks. Remafedi, Resnic Blum and Harris (1992) also find same sex attraction some 3 times higher in Whites than Blacks. Yet another study confirms white leadership in homosexuality. A National AIDS Behavioral Survey study (NABS), reported by Binson et al (1995) shows that 9.1% of white men, 3.1% of Black men, 2.7 percent of Hispanic men, and 2.3 percent of Asian/other had had same-sex action. In essence whites were 3 times more likely than blacks to be engaging in homosexual acts. Indeed, the NABS study OVERSAMPLED Black and Hispanic men but still showed higher rates of white activity. In another study based on vascular risk factors Krieger and Sidney (1997) reported white women and men were more likely to have had homosexual or bisexual contact than either black men or black women. In essence whites were twice as likely to be engaged in homosexual behavior than blacks.

    Indeed according to some studies, homosexuals post higher IQs than straights. [i](John P. De Cecco, Michael G. Shively (1984) Bisexual and homosexual identities: critical theoretical issues. Routledge)[/i]. Alan Soble (1997) [i]Sex, love, and friendship: studies of the Society for the Philosophy of Sex. Rodopi. pp. 77[/i]) lists several studies attesting to higher homosexual IQs, with most of the subjects in said studies being white. (See also James Weinrich, (1976). Human Reproductive Strategy. HARVARD UNIVERSITY DISSERTATION. p. 203-15).

    The above does not rule out fresh white meat recruitment, but this phenomena, pushed on college campuses or lower level schools by mostly white activists and administrators, is itself part of the fresh meat recruitment. This situation may not be too bad except for the fact that more white homosexuality reduces the opportunity or actuality of whites reproducing their numbers. In the long-term it bodes ill for the white race and its continued demographic decline. But higher IQs have a significant social determinant effect, as demonstrated by Charles Murray and others.

    The shift in white evolution is also reflected in increasing white transgenderism, as new gender orientations and modalities are amplified across higher IQ levels.

    Replies: @Dissident

    Some studies (Rogers and Turner 1991) report higher rates of homosexual activity among whites than blacks. Remafedi, Resnic Blum and Harris (1992) also find same sex attraction some 3 times higher in Whites than Blacks. Yet another study confirms white leadership in homosexuality. A National AIDS Behavioral Survey study (NABS), reported by Binson et al (1995) shows that 9.1% of white men, 3.1% of Black men, 2.7 percent of Hispanic men, and 2.3 percent of Asian/other had had same-sex action. In essence whites were 3 times more likely than blacks to be engaging in homosexual acts.

    To what extent did those studies rely on self-reporting? Would you not expect blacks to be considerably less likely than whites to admit-to “engaging in homosexual acts”?

    (Being outstanding for its favorable reception toward openly homosexual individuals is not something I’ve ever heard the black community accused of…)

    This situation may not be too bad except for the fact that more white homosexuality reduces the opportunity or actuality of whites producing their numbers.

    (Didn’t you mean “reproducing their numbers“)

    1.) Aside from any concerns over reproduction, there are numerous compelling, objective arguments against condoning, much less normalizing, less still promoting, celebrating and glorifying homosexuality.

    2.) Mere toleration of such indulgence

    [MORE]
    so long as it remains discreet and not, as the buggery that is endemic in the male Gay community most certainly is, inordinately disease-promoting, and within other reasonable boundaries? I am aware of no one (at least in the West) in any position to enact or influence policy who would argue for less than that.

    3.) Objectively, there is no equivalent to the sexual union of a man and a woman, and a society built-upon and centered around said union. To pretend otherwise is utter folly that ultimately does no one any good.

  186. @Steve Sailer
    @Dissident

    I've got a biography of Keynes sitting around. The book starts with an endearing account of Keynes at 38 suddenly falling in love with a woman for the first time in his life. It's a nice way to start.

    Replies: @Rockford Tyson

    This is true. Keynes was not technically gay, although romantically he was slightly more attracted to males than females. But physically, the man was aroused by both genders. Another man like that was mathematician, John Nash. He was arrested not once, but two times for indecent exposure with men in public bathrooms, where he “cruised” ocasionally. However, he also actively chased woman and ended up falling in love with one and having kids with her.

    Most bisexual men just claim to be gay because most people simply refuse to believe that male bisexuality is a thing. The sex researcher, Michael Bailey, claimed that bisexual men did not exist and that they showed a pattern of either heterosexual or homosexual attraction. He came to this conclusion from studying volunteers that he recruited at a gay dating site.

    He then re-made his study with more stringent criteria. Thsi time, he recruited the volunteers from groups of support for bisexual people. This time, he found out that over half of all the men who claimed to be bisexual actually were bisexual and showed a clear pattern of bisexual arousal. To put it bluntly, they got erections from watching both gay porn as well as lesbian porn.

    Bisexual men, like Keynes, Nash and Lord Byron, tend to be strange people. They tend to be not obviously feminine like gay men, and tend to be a lot more similar to heterosexual men in voice, mannerisms, body language and attitude. They tend to be stereotypically masculine, unlike gay men who tend to be feminine to some degree or another. However, bisexual men are also different from straight men in other ways. They tend to be artistic, behemian, and to have eclectic people-person personalities. They also tend to be genuinelly interested in both stereotypically masculine and feminine things. Such as, for instance, be huge boxing fans but also a lot into fashion. Ot being a fighter pilot and a lot into painting. For instanc,e they say that Herman Goering was bisexual. Unlike Rohm, he was able to hide it and function. He was the most condecorated German fighter pilot in WW1, but was also an art fanatic that liked to pain his nails and wear wigs. Bisexual men are strange people.

  187. @Brant
    @Morton's toes

    It doesn't have to be extreme gender nonconformity, just elevated. Two of the gay males from my school were 'different' from the beginning at age 5. None of the boys treated them weirdly, and they occasionally hung out with us. None of us "caught" the gay off them. The fact that people on UNZ trot out Cochran's pseudoscience is laughable.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    None of us “caught” the gay off them. The fact that people on UNZ trot out Cochran’s pseudoscience is laughable.

    Maybe you’re not part of the hypothetical population with a particular HLA type.

    https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/depths-of-madness/

    My model – not the only possible model based on a pathogen, but reasonable – leans on a couple of natural examples. One is narcolepsy. We now know that narcolepsy happens when a particular kind of neuron, concentrated in a little region in the hypothalamus, somehow gets zapped. 99% of narcolepsy cases happen in the 25% of the population that has a particular HLA type – which suggests that something, probably a virus, triggers an overenthusiastic immune response that zaps a neuron subpopulation that produce a particular neurotransmitter (called hypocretin or orexin) that regulates appetite and sleep patterns. And it doesn’t do anything else: narcoleptics aren’t stupid. You can compare narcolepsy to type I diabetes or Parkinson’s disease. Suppose there’s a neuron subpopulation that performs a key function in male sexual desire: wipe out that subpopulation, and Bob’s your uncle.

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