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Self-identifying lesbians appear to be fading away numerically as young women of the sapphic persuasion are increasingly persuaded to declare themselves males and take male hormones. But old questions about lesbian domestic violence were revived this week — Is it really as common as cops and emergency room workers say? If so, why are lesbians so violent toward each other? — with a couple of spectacular news stories about violent Asian-American lesbians.

The better known one is NYPD policewoman Yvonne Wu murdering her ex-girlfriend in a lesbian love triangle.

But the Japanese Mt. Holyoke professor seems even crazier. From the Greenfield Recorder:

Mt. Holyoke prof pleads guilty to attempted murder in 2019 assault; judge mulls sentencing

By DOMENIC POLI
Staff Writer
Published: 10/15/2021 4:35:03 PM

GREENFIELD — A Superior Court judge is mulling the sentencing of Rie Hachiyanagi after the Mount Holyoke College professor pleaded guilty Friday to nine charges stemming from a December 2019 incident in which she used a fire poker, a rock and pruning shears to attack a colleague in the victim’s Leverett home.

Professor Hachiyanagi is from Sapporo, Japan and is a professor of art at Mount Holyoke, which proclaims itself: “Mount Holyoke College is a women’s college that is gender diverse. … As a women’s college that is gender diverse, we welcome applications from female, trans and non-binary students.”

It is the oldest of the Seven Sisters and is in the lesbian heavy Hampshires of Western Massachusetts. But lesbians are out of fashion. Some of them are so evil as to assert that fetishists in frocks are not real women.

Lauret Savoy read her victim impact statement.

The victim is “A writer, teacher, photographer, and pilot, Lauret Savoy is also a woman of multiracial heritage. Her courses and writings explore the narratives we tell of the American land’s origins — and the narratives we tell of ourselves in this land, including the place of race.”

… Savoy, joined in the courtroom by dozens of supporters, read an impact statement in which she described the physical and emotional scars she sustained as a result of the four-hour attack that started late at night on Dec. 23, 2019, and continued into the early hours of Dec. 24.

The Mount Holyoke geology and environmental studies professor recalled the assault with excruciating detail and explained the physical trauma she still deals with. …

Savoy said Hachiyanagi, who she had considered a dear friend, repeatedly taunted her during the attack, telling her she would be blinded and disfigured before her murder. She also said Hachiyanagi, noticing the blood loss Savoy had sustained, told her victim she did not have much longer to live and then watched her bleed more.

Hachiyanagi also reportedly mentioned she wore a double layer of cream-colored surgical gloves during the attack so as to not leave her fingerprints behind.

“She expected to get away with murder — my murder,” the victim said.

… He said Hachiyanagi showed up at the victim’s home unannounced late at night and lurked in the shadows until Savoy saw something and asked who it was.

Hachiyanagi then reportedly revealed herself and said she wanted to talk about her feelings. But when Savoy invited her inside and turned her back to Hachiyanagi, the defendant unleashed a vicious attack while telling the victim she had loved her for years and she should have known that.

Savoy suffered bone breaks and a fracture in her face, many stab and puncture wounds, and significant blood loss. Thomas said Hachiyanagi even straddled the victim on the floor and repeatedly punched her.

Savoy was reportedly able to stop the attack and convince Hachiyanagi to call 911 by lying about having reciprocating feelings for her. Hachiyanagi reportedly portrayed herself to responding state troopers as Savoy’s savior, but her account of what happened quickly unraveled and she was arrested.

Hachiyanagi’s attempted third-party defense in court crumbled once Savoy found the bloodied surgical gloves from the attack hidden in a pair of shorts months after the attack.

Has anybody ever figured out whether the stereotype of lesbians being highly prone to domestic violence is really true? Not all stereotypes are true. One apolitical old stereotype among cops and ER workers that has faded since the 1970s is that people go especially crazy during full moons. I haven’t heard that one in awhile. I recall somebody looked into it and it didn’t pan out, much to my disappointment.

If it is true, why?

 
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  1. • Agree: Jim Christian, Shel100
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Reg Cæsar


    You’ve become so comfortable, that one (or both of you) gained weight. Like a lot of weight.
     
    This is the Lesbian Credo, I believe. It's the natural corollary of:

    A World Without Men? It would be full of fat, happy women!
     
    The typical solution is to gain weight carefully in tandem, and as quickly as possible. And as much as possible.

    Even Florence King was trying to hide behind those roses, and she wasn't fooling anyone. Like those old Mamas and Papas album covers, where they did their best to hide Mama Cass's girth, and it was just never enough. But I digress.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @AnotherDad, @Known Fact, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Catdompanj
    @Reg Cæsar

    Just curious. How on earth did you stumble onto this site, let alone this article Reg?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Reg Cæsar

  2. • LOL: Prester John
  3. Acute animus possession.

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  4. There was an Inspector Lewis episode where the murderer turned out to be a lesbian, feminist professor. I remember thinking that it was pretty implausible. I guess I was wrong.

  5. It is the oldest of the Seven Sisters and is in the lesbian heavy Hampshires of Western Massachusetts. But lesbians are out of fashion. Some of them are so evil as to assert that fetishists in frocks are not real women.

    The real injustice is that Florence King is no longer around to share her opinions on this topic. She could (and would) be withering, and in the most civilized fashion imaginable.

    On second thought, perhaps it’s better that she not have to deal with our terminally benighted era.

    https://fredericksburg.com/news/local/fredericksburg/fredericksburg-author-florence-king-dead-at/article_434a042a-b665-11e5-a02e-0f90b2f4ca34.html

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @HammerJack

    Flo was a real tough Lessie - in the best sense of the word. Before she died, she was alarmed about National Review's future course. Of course, she was prescient!

    , @Servant of Gla'aki
    @HammerJack

    Iron Florence is missed, rest assured.

    , @Charles Pewitt
    @HammerJack

    The real injustice is that Florence King is no longer around to share her opinions on this topic. She could (and would) be withering, and in the most civilized fashion imaginable.

    I say:

    I am proud to share Virginia Company English blood with Miss Florence King. My ancestor Thomas Prewitt came to the colony of Virginia in 1635 and he was born in Salisbury, England. Thomas Hardy and Florence King were great writers and Hardy was proud of his Norman ancestry and Florence King was proud to be English, but I don't know if she had any Anglo-Norman ancestry.

    Florence King was the best part of that long ago era National Review for me. King was a great writer and I loved Florence King’s book reviews. Florence King used to go after writers whose work was awkward or just bad writing. I like the fact that Florence King the professional writer was so practiced in her craft of writing that she could take these other professional writers to task for their work.

    I read a lot of Florence King’s books and I enjoyed all of them — especially her crisp writing. Florence King was a writer who didn’t screw around with nonsense.

    I didn’t like the dismissive tone of Florence King’s writing when she was talking about the Buchanans — especially Bay Buchanan, but Florence King might have been writing as a Virginian looking askance at the Mississippi Buchanans. Florence King’s crack about the Buchanan’s — Pat and Bay — causing a brou without the haha during their campaigns was too much.

    Florence King was proud of her Virginia ancestry and her grandmother kept her proud.

    Florence King also might have wrote that she belonged to the class that dare not speak its name: Lower Middle Class. I’m sure it was her, but not completely sure.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Wade Hampton
    @HammerJack


    The joker in the deck of lesbian fidelity is female vanity: no woman of fifty is going to undress in front of a woman of twenty no matter how much she might lust for her.
     
    From "The Florence King Reader", published 1995.

    Replies: @Shel100, @Ralph L, @Reg Cæsar

  6. I think you mean Berkshires, not Hampshires. (Though there is indeed a Hampshire College there.)

    • Agree: Charon, slumber_j
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous

    Inb4 Reg Cæsar:

    Steve was just distracted by bacon.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/01/fe/30/01fe30400db6ad7e0ad511fc5d5e6696.jpg

    But seriously, Mount Holyoke is in Hampshire County, but so far as I know the locals do not refer to it as the "Hampshires".

    The "Berkshires" are further west, more rugged, and therefore less blessed with crazy lesbians and toxic liberal arts colleges. Depending on whom you ask, "The Berkshires" may or may not be contiguous with Berkshire County.

    ------


    Savoy said Hachiyanagi, who she had considered a dear friend, repeatedly taunted her during the attack, telling her she would be blinded and disfigured before her murder. She also said Hachiyanagi, noticing the blood loss Savoy had sustained, told her victim she did not have much longer to live and then watched her bleed more.
     
    One too many J-horror viewings?

    There's probably a Ringu joke in here somewhere...

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Brutusale, @Dmon

  7. @Reg Cæsar
    10 Stages of Lesbian Bed Death You Probably Recognize

    These ladies turn it up to 11.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Catdompanj

    You’ve become so comfortable, that one (or both of you) gained weight. Like a lot of weight.

    This is the Lesbian Credo, I believe. It’s the natural corollary of:

    A World Without Men? It would be full of fat, happy women!

    The typical solution is to gain weight carefully in tandem, and as quickly as possible. And as much as possible.

    Even Florence King was trying to hide behind those roses, and she wasn’t fooling anyone. Like those old Mamas and Papas album covers, where they did their best to hide Mama Cass’s girth, and it was just never enough. But I digress.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @HammerJack

    You’ve become so comfortable, that one (or both of you) gained weight. Like a lot of weight.

    From Steve's 2009 review of the film of J.M. Coetzee's novel Disgrace:


    Although the movie is very faithful to the bleakly Malthusian novel, the book is funnier. For example, when the ex-professor wonders whether his daughter truly is a lesbian, he muses, “€œSapphic love: an excuse for putting on weight.”€
     
    , @AnotherDad
    @HammerJack


    A World Without Men? It would be full of fat, happy women!
     
    One constant from feminists: They have no idea how the world actually works.

    A world without men, would be full of fat happy women ... for maybe an hour or so until the power went out. If it was winter, women would be very, very unhappy by nightfall. And once the food in the super-market started running out, it would be a world of progressively leaner and much fewer women.

    Of course, a world without women would not be very pleasant either ... though for an entirely different reason. Our politics would certainly be better ... but to what end?


    Bottom line: men and women are complementary ... we fit together so wonderfully. (And people holding up and taking "pride" in all the freaks, deviants and developmental failures is really sick.)

    Replies: @Bill P

    , @Known Fact
    @HammerJack


    Like those old Mamas and Papas album covers, where they did their best to hide Mama Cass’s girth, and it was just never enough.
     
    Mission Impossible persisted in shooting several episodes while Lynda Day George was very pregnant. So she was constantly lurking behind some car, bar or bookcase, visible only from the tits up -- before finally going away on "special assignment"
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @HammerJack


    Like those old Mamas and Papas album covers, where they did their best to hide Mama Cass’s girth
     
    It's been claimed that the line "no one's gettin' fat 'cept Mama Cass" actually refers to her making good money singing at bar mitzvahs while the rest of the group was starving. I find this easier to believe than the common assumption, especially since she sang it on stage without cringing.

    But then, I think Puff was a dragon, the yellow submarine was a watercraft, Lucy was Julian's schoolmate, "Brand New Key" was about roller skates, and "Blinded By the Light" referenced an item in the garage, not the medicine cabinet. And it's never made clear which sex Lola is. So maybe I'm hopelessly naïve.

    Replies: @acementhead

  8. the Japanese Mt. Holyoke professor

    Few know that Five Colleges academics live life to the fullest

    “I remember our first days of courtship… as if it were yesterday—eager drives to Holyoke… passionate cries of lovemaking… muffled, into a feather pillow in order to avoid waking your roommate Chin Li.”

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  9. Isn’t diversity grand? Something tells me that New York City would be better off with a bunch of rough, politically-incorrect Irish cops who might say problematic things but were brave and loyal, than leaving policing to Chinese lesbians.

    It’s funny when you think about the police corruption portrayed in Serpico. All those cops were taking bribes from numbers rackets to look the other way. Of course, we still have numbers rackets. Now they’re called Lotteries, and they’re run by the state governments. Things are much better now.

    • Agree: Alternate History
    • Replies: @slumber_j
    @Mr. Anon


    Of course, we still have numbers rackets. Now they’re called Lotteries, and they’re run by the state governments.
     
    And as I couldn't help noticing from the ads plastered all over the subway car I rode yesterday to jury duty, the NY State Lottery is now offering to help addict you to itself through your smartphone: you get one free lottery ticket just for signing up!!

    What could possibly go wrong?

    , @Chicken Fried Dinosaur
    @Mr. Anon

    A Chinese girl is less likely than an Irish to grow into a lesbian. Lots of White men seem to have a revealed preference for Chinese girls, too. They're might be materialistic and uncreative but "less likely to divorce me and take my kids" tends to trump that.

    , @AceDeuce
    @Mr. Anon


    Isn’t diversity grand? Something tells me that New York City would be better off with a bunch of rough, politically-incorrect Irish cops who might say problematic things but were brave and loyal, than leaving policing to Chinese lesbians.
     
    White Men are the worst people in the history of the world.

    With the exception of everyone else.
  10. Google Scholar is your friend. Search “female same sex domestic violence”

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0092623X.2014.958792
    2015, “Same-Sex Domestic Violence: Prevalence, Unique Aspects, and Clinical Implications”

    SSDV = Same-Sex Domestic Violence, OSDV = Opposite-Sex

    Current prevalence rates of SSDV are considered similar to slightly higher than OSDV rates, with the exception of a secondary data analysis indicating SSDV rates as double that of OSDV (Messinger, 2011).

    Also

    In the female SSDV literature, a common theme is the contributory effect of lesbian fusion on violence. Waldner-Haugrud, Gratch, and Magruder (1997) defined lesbian fusion as “the tendency for lesbian couples to withdraw from the community, and become socially isolated and fused within the relationship unit” (p.180). Higher likelihood of physical aggression has been associated with participants reporting higher levels of fusion to the relationship in combination with a partner being identified as controlling (Miller, Greene, Causby, White, & Lockhart, 2001)

    Lesbian fusion! Live and learn.

    Similar entries at Scholar in earlier years. Also search on “lesbian domestic violence.”

    Lots of ideological angst in this literature, because domestic violence is supposed to be caused by “patriarchy.” Usual epicycle dodges: SSDV is really caused by patriarchy, heteronormativity, etc.

    As for opposite-sex, there tends to be more physical violence by men against women (probably having to do with average relative strength?). One ambitious study outside the U.S. asked the same respondents about physical violence and for the first time whether they “feared” their spouse. Considerably more males than females engaged in physical violence, but fear of spouse was equal for men and women, IIRC, about 15% each.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @New Dealer

    “Thelma and Louise Atrocity: Politically Corrupt, California Coppers Now Admit Out of One Side of Their Mouths that Lesbians Committed Mass Murder, but Deny It Out of the Other Side”
    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2018/04/thelma-and-louise-atrocity-politically.html

    Replies: @El Dato

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @New Dealer


    “We know that violence affects everyone, regardless of sexual orientation. This report suggests that lesbians, gay men and bisexuals in this country suffer a heavy toll of sexual violence and stalking committed by an intimate partner,” CDC Director Tom Frieden said in a statement.

    For example, domestic violence against a woman was reported by nearly 44 percent of lesbians and about 61 percent by bisexuals compared to 35 percent of heterosexuals. Among men, 26 percent of gays and about 37 percent of bisexuals reported partner violence compared to 29 percent of heterosexuals.
     
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-gays-violence-idUSBRE90O11W20130125https://www.unz.com/isteve/lesbian-domestic-violence/#respond
    , @J1234
    @New Dealer

    This thread is interesting and challenges my assumptions about these kind of relationships. My intuition had told me that most lesbians were lesbians because of some innate or acquired aversion to domestic violence or dominance, but that probably isn't the case. As you say, live and learn.

    I will say that non-lethal non-injurious lesbian domestic violence probably has some erotic appeal for many straight males. Not for me, personally, but I was thinking some of you guys.

  11. Concerning the incidence of domestic violence amongst the ‘oppressed’, the conventional wisdom is that lesbians really do lick all the competition.

    • Thanks: Alternate History
    • LOL: glib
    • Replies: @additionalMike
    @Anonymous

    Aw gosh, thanks for reviving the old Billy Jean King joke.

  12. The Hachinayagi-Savoy thing is a matter of she-said-she-said. I’m satisfied to write it off as “mutual combat”.

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @notsaying
    @International Jew

    I wondered why you would say this so I looked this up. Now I really wonder:

    "Rie Hachiyanagi, 50, a former art professor at Mount Holyoke College, pleaded guilty in Greenfield District Court to charges of three counts of armed assault with intent to
    murder a person over 60, three counts of assault and battery with a dangerous weapon on a person over 60, and one count each of home invasion, mayhem and entering in the nighttime with intent to commit a felony, according to the Northwestern District Attorney’s Office."

    https://whdh.com/news/ex-mass-college-professor-pleads-guilty-to-subjecting-colleague-to-4-hour-torture-session-on-christmas-eve-involving-rock-fire-poker-garden-shears/

    Replies: @Polistra

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @International Jew


    The Hachinayagi-Savoy thing is a matter of she-said-she-said. I’m satisfied to write it off as “mutual combat”.
     
    In the case of most lesbians, mutual wombat.


    https://youtu.be/fx5-5u3ivkA
  13. Japanese can be mental.

    • Agree: bruce county
    • Replies: @White Guy In Japan
    @bonin41

    Some Japanese women can go stalker crazy rather quickly and in an unspoken manner. Speaking from a position of firsthand experience. Lesbianism would probably add another level of crazy.

    Replies: @Ray P, @E. Rekshun, @anon

  14. @International Jew
    The Hachinayagi-Savoy thing is a matter of she-said-she-said. I'm satisfied to write it off as "mutual combat".

    Replies: @notsaying, @Reg Cæsar

    I wondered why you would say this so I looked this up. Now I really wonder:

    “Rie Hachiyanagi, 50, a former art professor at Mount Holyoke College, pleaded guilty in Greenfield District Court to charges of three counts of armed assault with intent to
    murder a person over 60, three counts of assault and battery with a dangerous weapon on a person over 60, and one count each of home invasion, mayhem and entering in the nighttime with intent to commit a felony, according to the Northwestern District Attorney’s Office.”

    https://whdh.com/news/ex-mass-college-professor-pleads-guilty-to-subjecting-colleague-to-4-hour-torture-session-on-christmas-eve-involving-rock-fire-poker-garden-shears/

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @notsaying

    Over 60 is now a protected class? Oh I can hardly wait.

  15. @New Dealer
    Google Scholar is your friend. Search “female same sex domestic violence”

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0092623X.2014.958792
    2015, "Same-Sex Domestic Violence: Prevalence, Unique Aspects, and Clinical Implications"

    SSDV = Same-Sex Domestic Violence, OSDV = Opposite-Sex


    Current prevalence rates of SSDV are considered similar to slightly higher than OSDV rates, with the exception of a secondary data analysis indicating SSDV rates as double that of OSDV (Messinger, 2011).
     
    Also

    In the female SSDV literature, a common theme is the contributory effect of lesbian fusion on violence. Waldner-Haugrud, Gratch, and Magruder (1997) defined lesbian fusion as “the tendency for lesbian couples to withdraw from the community, and become socially isolated and fused within the relationship unit” (p.180). Higher likelihood of physical aggression has been associated with participants reporting higher levels of fusion to the relationship in combination with a partner being identified as controlling (Miller, Greene, Causby, White, & Lockhart, 2001)
     
    Lesbian fusion! Live and learn.


    Similar entries at Scholar in earlier years. Also search on "lesbian domestic violence."

    Lots of ideological angst in this literature, because domestic violence is supposed to be caused by “patriarchy.” Usual epicycle dodges: SSDV is really caused by patriarchy, heteronormativity, etc.

    As for opposite-sex, there tends to be more physical violence by men against women (probably having to do with average relative strength?). One ambitious study outside the U.S. asked the same respondents about physical violence and for the first time whether they “feared” their spouse. Considerably more males than females engaged in physical violence, but fear of spouse was equal for men and women, IIRC, about 15% each.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix, @Harry Baldwin, @J1234

    “Thelma and Louise Atrocity: Politically Corrupt, California Coppers Now Admit Out of One Side of Their Mouths that Lesbians Committed Mass Murder, but Deny It Out of the Other Side”
    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2018/04/thelma-and-louise-atrocity-politically.html

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Nicholas Stix


    "It was a very confusing scene," Mendocino County Sheriff Tom Allman told reporters two days after the discovery. "There was no indication of why this vehicle traversed approximately over 75 feet of a dirt pullout and went into the Pacific Ocean."
     
    Could be UFOs.
  16. “The better known one is NYPD policewoman Yvonne Wu murdering her ex-girlfriend in a lesbian love triangle.”

    Actually, police person Wu murdered her ex-GF’s new love (Jamie Liang), by shooting her several times in the chest at point-blank range. Liang was probably dead before she hit the floor.

    Wu only shot her ex (Jenny Li) once in the gut, presumably because Wu wanted to give her the chance to come crawling back to her.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Nicholas Stix

    https://twitter.com/nypdrecruit/status/1385209948964073475

    Replies: @Technite78, @Dan Hayes, @Anonymous, @The Wild Geese Howard, @El Dato

    , @Rahan
    @Nicholas Stix

    Asian Lesbian Police Love Triangle Murder!!!!

    Ah, remember when this was trashy pulp fiction or sleazy exploitation film instead of banal reality.

    Way, way back before kid trannies and mandatory injections.

  17. Better hope, as a heterosexual, you never inadvertently wander, alone and unarmed, into a women’s softball tournament.

    • LOL: Tono Bungay
  18. @Nicholas Stix
    "The better known one is NYPD policewoman Yvonne Wu murdering her ex-girlfriend in a lesbian love triangle."

    Actually, police person Wu murdered her ex-GF's new love (Jamie Liang), by shooting her several times in the chest at point-blank range. Liang was probably dead before she hit the floor.

    Wu only shot her ex (Jenny Li) once in the gut, presumably because Wu wanted to give her the chance to come crawling back to her.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Rahan

    • Replies: @Technite78
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Wow... she seems to be barely fluent in English. According to a NYPost story, she was decorated "multiple" times during her 5 year NYPD career. I have to imagine that they were all participation trophies for checking off more than 3 intersectional boxes of oppressed minorities (female, asian, lesbian). If she could only have refrained from killing one and gravely injuring another oppressed minority, she might have made it all the way to Police Commissioner!

    Replies: @Peter Lund

    , @Dan Hayes
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Of the PC alternatives, NE Asian female police officers are way better than either the Black or Hispanic variety!

    , @Anonymous
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Officer Zhang ain’t no lesbo, she’s absolutely gorgeous.

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    She's just there to keep tabs on the fools who think they can escape Xi and the CCP by hiding out in Chinatown.

    , @El Dato
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I can't deny it, kinda hot.

    Only Admiral Cain - the 2004 female sociopathic one (Michelle Forbes), not the debonair Goering-style guy (Lloyd Bridges) from the original series (back from when bridge bunnies were bridge bunnies ... and how!) - comes close.

  19. “If so, why are lesbians so violent toward each other? ”

    That’s a good question. A follow up question is how does that question reconcile with the long held isteve notion that masculinity and testosterone cause unchecked violence and aggression?

    “Self-identifying lesbians appear to be fading away numerically as young women of the sapphic persuasion are increasingly persuaded to declare themselves males and take male hormones.”

    Considering your theory of high-t levels causing men to want to transition to be women, so is it then high estrogen levels that cause women to want to become men?

    Or maybe, just maybe.. hormones (naturally produced, anyway) have very little do do with the process that leads to people deciding that they’re really a member of the opposite sex.

    • Replies: @Sternhammer
    @Mike Tre

    One theory would be that higher testosterone levels make everyone more sexually adventurous, aka freakier. As well as promoting aggression in both sexes.

    , @Bill Jones
    @Mike Tre


    “If so, why are lesbians so violent toward each other? ”

    That’s a good question
     
    Perhaps it's not just lesbians.
    Perhaps women are much more violent than they're given credit for and men just shrug it off.

    The two primary reasons for the discounting by men would be that A. They hit like children- despite decades of 90 lb teenagers beating up linebackers on TV, women just don't know how to hit, and B. I think most men would be ashamed of admitting that being hit by a woman caused so much pain that it was worthy of comment.

    Replies: @mmack

    , @Alternate History
    @Mike Tre

    It is thought that lesbians "become" whereas Gay men 'are". I have always thought that when things go bad for lesbians, it's the end of the world since they couldn't have a relationship with a man and having become a lesbian, they couldn't find contentment there either. As in the case of people who move to the west coast having not found fulfillment on the east coast, only to discover that the west coast is the same as the east coast because the problem is not geographical; they have merely taken their personal traits with them to continued misery in the new geographical location. This discovery leads to self-hate, rage, lashing out in all its variants.
    Moving from hetero, to homo sexual relations is not enough if the personal traits are not worked on.

  20. the four-hour attack that started late at night on Dec. 23, 2019, and continued into the early hours of Dec. 24.

    That’s some Japanese levels of gore

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0235198/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

    A widower takes an offer to screen girls at a special audition, arranged for him by a friend to find him a new wife. The one he fancies is not who she appears to be after all.

    It was a Big Mistake!

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @El Dato

    It sounds like a Korean movie. When the Korean immigrant kid murdered 31 at Virginia Tech about 14 years ago, I speculated he was a fan of the Korean movie "Oldboy." The Washington Post was incensed, but then the New York Times posted a picture of the mass murderer posing in a scene from "Oldboy."

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  21. Read some of these links…

    [MORE]

    https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/05/31/lesbian-couple-found-guilty-of-murdering-two-year-old-son/

    Brazilian mother and lesbian lover ‘tore off nine-year-old’s penis’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7146517/Brazilian-mother-27-lesbian-lover-28-tore-nine-year-old-sons-penis.html

    Baltimore Lesbian Couple Charged with Killing 4-Year-Old Son

    https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2019/08/04/baltimore-lesbian-couple-charged-with-killing-4-year-old-son-found-dead-in-dumpster/

    Lesbian Kills Daughter, Blames Bible Sermon After Partner Breaks Up With Her

    https://www.advocate.com/crime/2014/05/31/lesbian-kills-daughter-blames-bible-sermon-after-partner-breaks-her

    Details Revealed About Lesbian Couple’s Horrific Abuse Of Their 5-Year-Old Son That Caused Two Strokes And Broken Bones

    https://www.yourtango.com/2017306840/details-oklahoma-lesbian-couple-child-abuse-son-jail-duct-tape

    Lesbians convicted of child abuse lose appeal (14753)

    https://www.advocate.com/news/2005/01/08/lesbians-convicted-child-abuse-lose-appeal-14753

    Inside Brutal Baby Lollipops Murder Case That Shook South Florida

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/inside-brutal-baby-lollipops-murder-case-that-shook-south-florida-113594/

    Murder charge mother ‘failed’ son Liam

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-36342256

    Huff-Puff lies, as ever:

    Child Abuse Rate At Zero Percent In Lesbian Households, New Report Finds

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lesbians-child-abuse-0-percent_n_781624

    The hatred of men is a theme in the lesbian radical feminist community. From Emily McComb’s

    https://dailycaller.com/2017/12/29/huffington-post-editor-reveals-new-years-resolution-kill-all-men/

    So- why do have sons? Not adopted? Mother nature is a wise woman ….

    https://albertmohler.com/2004/12/14/lesbians-raising-sons-got-a-problem-with-that

    So- why do have sons? Not adopted? Mother nature is a wise woman ….

    In her introduction, Jess Wells explains that the whole issue of lesbians raising sons is due to a biological circumstance. “A socially and biologically driven phenomenon is producing a disproportionate number of male children within the current lesbian baby boom. Lesbians who choose to undergo donor insemination now have at least a 65 percent chance of bearing a son.” Wells went on to explain why this is so. She argues that male sperm weigh less than female sperm and therefore swim faster and are more likely to reach the egg ahead of sperm without a Y chromosome. The disproportionate number of boys born to lesbian mothers is thus, at least in part, an ironic slap in the face from an unforgiving biological fact.

    Morgan and her partner also worked to create a feminist environment in which their son would be raised. “We tried to offer alternatives to the patriarchal ‘norms.’ We celebrated Wiccan holidays with much pomp, while giving a superficial nod to Christmas and Hanukkah. He was offered–and played with–dolls and tea sets as well as with fire trucks and tractors.”

    An even more extreme vision of lesbian motherhood and sons was related by Ruthann Robson as she explained the response of lesbian separatists to the birth of her son. Having been separatists themselves, they were puzzled by how they would deal with this baby boy. “What were two dykes going to do with this miniature emissary from the patriarchy who invaded our lives? One of us would be the one to give him a bath every night. The other one would be telling bedtime stories.”

    In her own chapter, Jess Wells insisted that she had done everything within her power to avoid giving birth to a son. “How had this happened? I had paid to have the sperm sex-selected. The sperm had been made to swim for hours, and the fastest swimmers–the ‘male’ sperm–had been poured down the sink.

    “I had been planning on a girl,” Wells remembered. “It was essential that I have a girl.” When she was told that her womb contained a boy, she was “profoundly disappointed.” As an ardent opponent of “male privilege, patriarchy, and male culture,” Wells didn’t want anything to do with raising a boy.

    Eventually, she was reconciled to the fact that her child was a boy and decided this could be a positive experience. “My son cannot take me away from the struggle for women’s rights, nor can he force me to take an interest in anything that I don’t deem interesting. He cannot be my oppressor because he is my child, and he cannot be a second chance to relive my life because he has his own life. He and I will explore each other’s cultures, sharing what we can and respecting what we can’t . . . Both of us, respecting each other’s sovereignty, can rejoice in our foreignness and celebrate our diversity.“

    • Thanks: BB753, Mike Tre
    • Replies: @JMcG
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Wow, we even swim faster before insemination?

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Bill Jones

    , @2BR
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Why doesn’t the faster swimming work in nature?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    , @Rob
    @Bardon Kaldian

    You know why life is rough for sons of lesbian couples? You know what single moms are like? The lesbian couple’s kid has two of them.

    Even if the boy is very low on boyish traits, he is not a girl. If he plays with dolls and tea sets instead of action figures and fighting games, then encountering other boys at school will difficult, at best.

    One problem closer to home would be that so many lesbians consider having a boy to be an opportunity to craft a feminist man. They don’t seem interested in letting the boy grow up, develop his own interests, his own thoughts, his own philosophy of life, however inchoate and halfsssed it may be.

    Lesbians are solidly creatures of the left. Today, the Twitter Left. The only trait the think is genetically influenced is homosexuality. They don’t realize the kid has tendencies built in, both the near-universal traits that were important, and so are baked into everyones cake, and the less important as well as the frequency dependent traits that vary, and traits that were not so important that vary a lot.

    The lesbian does not think “this is the kids cake baking itself. He is running around at the grocery store because when I take him to the park, I don’t let him play soccer with the other boys. I don’t want him to pick up boy culture.” She’s more likely to think “he is running around to upset me. He is a Bad Boy.” Also, lesbians cannot use, “wait until your father comes home!” to force compliance.

    So, the boy, who is likely straight as an arrow, most guys are, does not have any male influences. He either tries to fit in with girls, which is difficult, and the dynamic changes a lot with puberty. The girls who were his best friends in fourth grade will laugh hysterically when jocks (or whoever) mistreat him. That’s hard on a kid. Also, at puberty, what the kid wants from female friends changes, too.

    He can certainly go the other way. “Reactive masculinity” is the sociologists name for what you might think of as “black masculinity” in America or just as “black male behavior” f you their behavior is not consonant with your personal theory of masculinity. Henry Harpending discusses it in the intro to a paper on verbal-mathematical tilt of kids from two parent vs single mom homes. I’ll try to kind it if anyone reads my comments this far down. Reactive masculinity is certainly an adaptation for for pre-state societies where men were more involved in male-male coalitioning and competing than on provisioning, but it is not conducive to positive interactions with authority figures in school. Especially male ones.

    All that said, I’ve known sons of lesbian moms who turned out fine. Childhood was rough, usually. But if they can avoid reform school, or whatever prison-school is called now, and most kids from the middle class on up can. High school tends to be better. These boys are the sons of sperm donors. Biologically, sperm donors are an elite, so their intelligence often shines through to teachers.

    How do other cultures handle physical punishments of children? I don’t mean what the French do. What do Africans do? Do mothers do corporal punishment or is that father-only? If people evolved with women punishing kids, then I could see how women might end up being more violent to children. One wonders what the rate of female-on-male domestic violence would be if women were the size and strength of men. I think it would be pretty high. Lesbian couples give us a hint of what that would be like.

    Lesbian couples probably have more domestic violence than gay men because lesbian are more pair-bond oriented than gay men. There’s a fair amount of turnover in gay male relationships. Knowing there’s always someone out there means you don’t need to hold on to the current one so tightly. Also, when men fight, someone can get hurt. Men know this, so they don’t get physical. If a woman hits her male partner, she’s usually expressing frustration, not trying to break him. He doesn’t hit back, don’t hit girls is strongly ingrained. When a lesbian does the same thing, her partner has not had a lifetime of “don’t hit girls” so she hits back, and then…

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  22. @El Dato

    the four-hour attack that started late at night on Dec. 23, 2019, and continued into the early hours of Dec. 24.
     
    That's some Japanese levels of gore

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0235198/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

    A widower takes an offer to screen girls at a special audition, arranged for him by a friend to find him a new wife. The one he fancies is not who she appears to be after all.
     
    It was a Big Mistake!

    https://i.postimg.cc/MHDVFLw9/Audition-Cover.png

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    It sounds like a Korean movie. When the Korean immigrant kid murdered 31 at Virginia Tech about 14 years ago, I speculated he was a fan of the Korean movie “Oldboy.” The Washington Post was incensed, but then the New York Times posted a picture of the mass murderer posing in a scene from “Oldboy.”

    • LOL: Some Guy
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Steve Sailer

    Okay, I had never heard of this Oldboy thing, so I read the plot synopsis. It sure is weird what screenwriters get up to nowadays, but I didn't see any obvious connection to the Virginia Tech shooter, who seemed like a tediously conventional—even passé—rampage shooter. So now I'm wondering how Steve spotted the connection? I mean, the movie and the shooter are both Korean and violent, but that doesn't seen like a particularly deep parallel.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Steve Sailer, @Servant of Gla'aki

  23. OT, what happens if the government is made up of two bit grifters who just want to get rich, and then a real JFK-requiring emergency happens?

    Israel is reporting the highest coronavirus infection rate in the world, showing that neither vaccine mandates nor “vaccine passports” are suitable means to limit or end the pandemic.

    https://swprs.org/israel-highest-infection-rate-in-the-world/

    Sweden banned Israeli citizens, even if vaccinated from entering the country.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/portugal-sweden-slap-covid-entry-ban-on-israelis-including-those-vaccinated/

    The WHO director for Europe acknowledged that covid vaccines won’t achieve ‘herd immunity’.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-09-vaccines-pandemic.html

    By October, ‘vaccine passport’ pioneers Singapore and Lithuania were reaching record infection rates.

    https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..2021-10-10&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=SGP~LTU~European+Union~USA

    • Agree: Alternate History
    • Replies: @dearieme
    @J.Ross

    a real JFK-requiring emergency

    Is that an allusion to the JFK-caused Cuban missile crisis?

    , @Bill Jones
    @J.Ross


    Sweden banned Israeli citizens, even if vaccinated from entering the country.
     
    Should be

    Sweden banned Israeli citizens from entering the country.
     
    The vaccination isn't. It is not, and never has been about conferring immunity from infection. It's claims are to reducing symptoms and greatly lessening the chances of hospitalization ( Once they get you hospitalized, you're a goner).
    The drug companies are in the business of managing diseases not curing them; where's the money in that?

    A blanket ban on Israeli's is something we can all get behind.

    Replies: @El Dato

    , @anon
    @J.Ross

    Look at current Israel statistics. This was 45 days ago. Cases peaked, then rapidly declined.

    Replies: @HA

  24. @Nicholas Stix
    @New Dealer

    “Thelma and Louise Atrocity: Politically Corrupt, California Coppers Now Admit Out of One Side of Their Mouths that Lesbians Committed Mass Murder, but Deny It Out of the Other Side”
    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2018/04/thelma-and-louise-atrocity-politically.html

    Replies: @El Dato

    “It was a very confusing scene,” Mendocino County Sheriff Tom Allman told reporters two days after the discovery. “There was no indication of why this vehicle traversed approximately over 75 feet of a dirt pullout and went into the Pacific Ocean.”

    Could be UFOs.

  25. Someone should look into whether lesbians are especially apt to go batshit crazy during a full moon.

    • LOL: megabar
    • Replies: @Kronos
    @G. Poulin

    “Gaia calls for blood! Your blood!”

  26. In law school the rumour was that the criminal law lecturer was a former NYPD cop. He did attend City College as an undergraduate but no one ever confirmed the cop rumour. Anyway the criminal law course was split half a year on homicide half on everything else. And for the everything else final exam the fact situation ended with one member of a lesbian couple raping the other with a field hockey stick. In that kind of exam it will always be something bad, but this was a new level.

  27. @J.Ross
    OT, what happens if the government is made up of two bit grifters who just want to get rich, and then a real JFK-requiring emergency happens?

    Israel is reporting the highest coronavirus infection rate in the world, showing that neither vaccine mandates nor “vaccine passports” are suitable means to limit or end the pandemic.

    https://swprs.org/israel-highest-infection-rate-in-the-world/

    Sweden banned Israeli citizens, even if vaccinated from entering the country.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/portugal-sweden-slap-covid-entry-ban-on-israelis-including-those-vaccinated/

    The WHO director for Europe acknowledged that covid vaccines won’t achieve ‘herd immunity’.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-09-vaccines-pandemic.html

    By October, ‘vaccine passport’ pioneers Singapore and Lithuania were reaching record infection rates.

    https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..2021-10-10&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=SGP~LTU~European+Union~USA

    Replies: @dearieme, @Bill Jones, @anon

    a real JFK-requiring emergency

    Is that an allusion to the JFK-caused Cuban missile crisis?

  28. @bonin41
    Japanese can be mental.

    Replies: @White Guy In Japan

    Some Japanese women can go stalker crazy rather quickly and in an unspoken manner. Speaking from a position of firsthand experience. Lesbianism would probably add another level of crazy.

    • Replies: @Ray P
    @White Guy In Japan

    Exactly what I thought based only on having watched In the realm of the senses (1976) twice when I was nineteen. Audition (1999) seems to be the modern version.

    , @E. Rekshun
    @White Guy In Japan

    Japanese-born Yoko Ono always struck me as somewhat off.

    , @anon
    @White Guy In Japan

    I have dated three Japanese girls

    One dumped me for a wannabe MMA fighter and got him and his friends to threaten me with destruction if I even looked at her again. The experience was harrowing . Though it turned out fine as he knocked her up , got charged with assaulting her and did jail time. She's a single mom living with her parents

    The next one stalked me. She would sneak into my apartment building and sit outside my apt in the hall. That had a messy, but not horrible ending

    The third had an affair with a sleazy Arab who wanted nothing to do with her. We had a temporary breakup when she met him and kept it up when we got back together

    They were all cute but three strikes and you're out No more J girls. They're psycho or at least the ones I meet are

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @kaganovitch, @R.G. Camara, @Anon

  29. One apolitical old stereotype among cops and ER workers that has faded since the 1970s is that people go especially crazy during full moons.

    There are days when the callouts are highest but these tend to be in the high summer, mostly due to people being out and about and thus getting into more accidents.

    I always thought criminals would be wise to organise themselves to all try and commit their heists on the same day to strain police and give all of them a better chance of getting away with it but I suppose criminals aren’t wise to trust each other and somebody might find themselves going first and getting caught or worse being set up. We got a taste of that during the protests and riots, particularly in Manhattan where the big SUVs carrying whole teams of looters hit Rolex and other high value targets.

  30. @Mike Tre
    "If so, why are lesbians so violent toward each other? "

    That's a good question. A follow up question is how does that question reconcile with the long held isteve notion that masculinity and testosterone cause unchecked violence and aggression?

    "Self-identifying lesbians appear to be fading away numerically as young women of the sapphic persuasion are increasingly persuaded to declare themselves males and take male hormones."

    Considering your theory of high-t levels causing men to want to transition to be women, so is it then high estrogen levels that cause women to want to become men?

    Or maybe, just maybe.. hormones (naturally produced, anyway) have very little do do with the process that leads to people deciding that they're really a member of the opposite sex.

    Replies: @Sternhammer, @Bill Jones, @Alternate History

    One theory would be that higher testosterone levels make everyone more sexually adventurous, aka freakier. As well as promoting aggression in both sexes.

  31. @Steve Sailer
    @El Dato

    It sounds like a Korean movie. When the Korean immigrant kid murdered 31 at Virginia Tech about 14 years ago, I speculated he was a fan of the Korean movie "Oldboy." The Washington Post was incensed, but then the New York Times posted a picture of the mass murderer posing in a scene from "Oldboy."

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Okay, I had never heard of this Oldboy thing, so I read the plot synopsis. It sure is weird what screenwriters get up to nowadays, but I didn’t see any obvious connection to the Virginia Tech shooter, who seemed like a tediously conventional—even passé—rampage shooter. So now I’m wondering how Steve spotted the connection? I mean, the movie and the shooter are both Korean and violent, but that doesn’t seen like a particularly deep parallel.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Almost Missouri

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/wow-you-called-it/

    One of the commenters says I have "loose neurons" that allow me to make off-the-wall connections. I only watched 10 minutes of the Korean ultra-violent movie "Old Boy" before fleeing, but it's a powerful movie, kind of in the way that that "Taxi Driver" helped get President Reagan shot.

    Movies are really, really influential.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Almost Missouri, @Bill P, @ic1000

    , @Steve Sailer
    @Almost Missouri

    One of the commenters says I have "loose neurons" that allow me to make off-the-wall connections. I only watched 10 minutes of the Korean ultra-violent movie "Old Boy" before fleeing, but it's a powerful movie, kind of in the way that that "Taxi Driver" helped get President Reagan shot.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/wow-you-called-it/

    , @Servant of Gla'aki
    @Almost Missouri


    ...the Virginia Tech shooter, who seemed like a tediously conventional—even passé—rampage shooter.
     
    You dare to imply aspersions against the literary value of RICHARD McBEEF?!?

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  32. Has anybody ever figured out whether the stereotype of lesbians being highly prone to domestic violence is really true?

    Anecdotally I am pretty sure it is.

    Ignoring the exceptional stories you have mentioned, it seems quite likely that female domestic violence is very high. Men hitting women is rightly demonised, but women hit men all of the time and no one publicly notices it, not even the men who get hit.

    Domestic situations can lead to very emotional conflicts for everyone involved, but extreme social pressure to reduce certain forms of behaviour can be effective, so men likely react with physical violence less than they would have, but women are not so affected by this. The men usually just outwardly shrug this off. Clearly many women feel safe to hit their much stronger male partners.

    If women are more likely to hit their partners, then lesbian couples are doubly more likely. Also, once one person hits the others then the chances of them getting hit back goes up a lot. Even where a woman hits a man. Lesbian couples I have met have often spoken of physical violence in their existing relationship, as if it is just a thing.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Triteleia Laxa


    Clearly many women feel safe to hit their much stronger male partners.
     
    Well, in way too many cases it's just an incitement to wild sex ....

    Replies: @Farenheit

    , @Bill Jones
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Another counter-intuitive phenomenon I've noticed is that women seem to break thing more than men. I think it's because men assume they can open, move, disassemble etc things and so if they can't look for a physical/mechanical reason why not. Women tend more to assume it's a lack of physical strength and therefore more force is required.

    , @Ed Case
    @Triteleia Laxa


    Clearly many women feel safe to hit their much stronger male partners.
     
    Domestic Violence Orders are the only way to stop a violent woman.
    Sure, she'll then leave and take the kids, but at least the violence has stopped.

    With lesbians, it's the nature if the activity that causes feelings of rage that are then acted out.
    Inserting a fist up a partners arse will eventually end in the Courts or a Mental Hospital.
    Bottom line:
    Lesbians are no different from poofters, they're only interested in absolute humiliation of the partner.

    Cops say that 1 in 3 murders involve poofters who have been or are still partners, but i've never seen this angle covered in the media.

    Replies: @Jiminy

  33. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Nicholas Stix

    https://twitter.com/nypdrecruit/status/1385209948964073475

    Replies: @Technite78, @Dan Hayes, @Anonymous, @The Wild Geese Howard, @El Dato

    Wow… she seems to be barely fluent in English. According to a NYPost story, she was decorated “multiple” times during her 5 year NYPD career. I have to imagine that they were all participation trophies for checking off more than 3 intersectional boxes of oppressed minorities (female, asian, lesbian). If she could only have refrained from killing one and gravely injuring another oppressed minority, she might have made it all the way to Police Commissioner!

    • Replies: @Peter Lund
    @Technite78

    Different woman, I think. The murderess is named Wu and this one's tag says ZHANG.

    Replies: @Technite78, @Bardon Kaldian

  34. Was OJ near the scene?

    • Replies: @Gerard Frederick
    @TyRade

    No, OJ was nowhere to be seen, but he should have gotten a medal because he offed a race traitor and a Jude simultaneously thereby improving the population mix.

  35. old stereotype among cops and ER workers that has faded since the 1970s is that people go especially crazy during full moons.

    Well, the phenomenon of lunacy/lunatics is a little more than a stereotype. As the existence of those words suggests, together with folkloric associations between werewolves and the full moon, the moon’s effects on behaviour are not a new discovery.

    The stars were so significant to our ancestors, but we hardly notice them at all today. The ubiquity of artificial light prevents us from paying attention to what surrounds us, not to mention the light pollution that hides the stars from view in so many areas of human habitation. Similarly, with the moon, whatever effect variations in illumination may have had for our ancestors before the advent of electricity, these have become trivial to us. Still, it stands to reason changes in illumination, especially during sleep can cause various kinds of disruptions.

    One thing that has changed since the 1970s is the use of computers and time spent staring at screens emitting lots of blue light.

    I suppose technically it’s possible that the lunar effect is modulated by the proximity of the moon, and not its phase. Since the lunar phase is not in sync with the moon’s orbit around the Earth, this means there are full moons at their apogee (furthest from Earth) and other full moons at their perigee (closest to Earth). This is probably not significant, however.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
    @Percival

    The other thing to consider is the dramatic decline in the proportion of people who have a good-faith belief in supernatural influences on human behaviour.

    It would not surprise me to find that lunatics got loonie on a lunar cycle more in a society where a large proportion of people genuinely believed that nuttery flourished by the light of the silvery moon.

    Your observation about the (relatively recent) increase in urban ambient light has obvious merit. Anyone who spends significant time in places where there is no artificial lighting as far as the horizon, quickly becomes aware of how much easier it is to do nighttime shenanigans when the moon is full.

    During a recent 'half lap' of Australia, we planned our stops to maximise the number of new and full moons where we had literally zero 'light pollution'. I've never been one for stargazing, but a clear night sky during a new moon is quite amazing - but the downside is that one can't see shit on the ground.

    That's why it used to make sense for military operations to commence on a new moon.

    Lunatics misbehaving during full moons is the same as the man looking for his dropped keys under the nearest streetlight - augmented (in the past) by people who genuinely believed that the full moon made them more crazy.

  36. Homosexual sociopaths as evil as heterosexual sociopaths, oh my, what’s next, misogynists telling ugly stories about how wicked women are because they can’t quite figure out how to get over their mommy issues?

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Observator

    Yeah, but same sex sexual abuse can be heavily swept under the rug. The political optics will scare off journalists and open discussion. Cops might not want to get involved unless a human life is threatened.

    Over a decade ago, one of the strangest “documentaries” was making the rounds on the independent documentary circuit. Some independent documentaries are just bad, but this one is still the most bizarre in my book. It attempts to address the issue of lesbian rape in a journalistic manner, but the stories were “re-enacted” and has a strong pornographic feel to it. The joke was that the director wanted to cover her financial bets. If the film wasn’t profitable enough as a documentary, it could double as a lesbian domination porno. (Documentary films are the worst means of making money period. You had so many people trying to become the next Michael Moore after “ Fahrenheit 9/11” that THOUSANDS of people went straight up bankrupt.)


    https://www.amazon.com/She-Stole-Voice-Documentary-Uncensored/dp/B000YEBL64

    Replies: @G. Poulin

  37. @Bardon Kaldian
    Read some of these links...



    https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/05/31/lesbian-couple-found-guilty-of-murdering-two-year-old-son/

    Brazilian mother and lesbian lover ‘tore off nine-year-old’s penis’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7146517/Brazilian-mother-27-lesbian-lover-28-tore-nine-year-old-sons-penis.html

    Baltimore Lesbian Couple Charged with Killing 4-Year-Old Son

    https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2019/08/04/baltimore-lesbian-couple-charged-with-killing-4-year-old-son-found-dead-in-dumpster/

    Lesbian Kills Daughter, Blames Bible Sermon After Partner Breaks Up With Her

    https://www.advocate.com/crime/2014/05/31/lesbian-kills-daughter-blames-bible-sermon-after-partner-breaks-her

    Details Revealed About Lesbian Couple’s Horrific Abuse Of Their 5-Year-Old Son That Caused Two Strokes And Broken Bones

    https://www.yourtango.com/2017306840/details-oklahoma-lesbian-couple-child-abuse-son-jail-duct-tape

    Lesbians convicted of child abuse lose appeal (14753)

    https://www.advocate.com/news/2005/01/08/lesbians-convicted-child-abuse-lose-appeal-14753

    Inside Brutal Baby Lollipops Murder Case That Shook South Florida

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/inside-brutal-baby-lollipops-murder-case-that-shook-south-florida-113594/

    Murder charge mother ‘failed’ son Liam

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-36342256

    Huff-Puff lies, as ever:

    Child Abuse Rate At Zero Percent In Lesbian Households, New Report Finds

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lesbians-child-abuse-0-percent_n_781624

    The hatred of men is a theme in the lesbian radical feminist community. From Emily McComb’s

    https://dailycaller.com/2017/12/29/huffington-post-editor-reveals-new-years-resolution-kill-all-men/

    So- why do have sons? Not adopted? Mother nature is a wise woman ….

    https://albertmohler.com/2004/12/14/lesbians-raising-sons-got-a-problem-with-that

    So- why do have sons? Not adopted? Mother nature is a wise woman ….

    In her introduction, Jess Wells explains that the whole issue of lesbians raising sons is due to a biological circumstance. “A socially and biologically driven phenomenon is producing a disproportionate number of male children within the current lesbian baby boom. Lesbians who choose to undergo donor insemination now have at least a 65 percent chance of bearing a son.” Wells went on to explain why this is so. She argues that male sperm weigh less than female sperm and therefore swim faster and are more likely to reach the egg ahead of sperm without a Y chromosome. The disproportionate number of boys born to lesbian mothers is thus, at least in part, an ironic slap in the face from an unforgiving biological fact.
     

    Morgan and her partner also worked to create a feminist environment in which their son would be raised. “We tried to offer alternatives to the patriarchal ‘norms.’ We celebrated Wiccan holidays with much pomp, while giving a superficial nod to Christmas and Hanukkah. He was offered–and played with–dolls and tea sets as well as with fire trucks and tractors.”
     

    An even more extreme vision of lesbian motherhood and sons was related by Ruthann Robson as she explained the response of lesbian separatists to the birth of her son. Having been separatists themselves, they were puzzled by how they would deal with this baby boy. “What were two dykes going to do with this miniature emissary from the patriarchy who invaded our lives? One of us would be the one to give him a bath every night. The other one would be telling bedtime stories.”
     

    In her own chapter, Jess Wells insisted that she had done everything within her power to avoid giving birth to a son. “How had this happened? I had paid to have the sperm sex-selected. The sperm had been made to swim for hours, and the fastest swimmers–the ‘male’ sperm–had been poured down the sink.
     

    “I had been planning on a girl,” Wells remembered. “It was essential that I have a girl.” When she was told that her womb contained a boy, she was “profoundly disappointed.” As an ardent opponent of “male privilege, patriarchy, and male culture,” Wells didn’t want anything to do with raising a boy.
     

    Eventually, she was reconciled to the fact that her child was a boy and decided this could be a positive experience. “My son cannot take me away from the struggle for women’s rights, nor can he force me to take an interest in anything that I don’t deem interesting. He cannot be my oppressor because he is my child, and he cannot be a second chance to relive my life because he has his own life. He and I will explore each other’s cultures, sharing what we can and respecting what we can’t . . . Both of us, respecting each other’s sovereignty, can rejoice in our foreignness and celebrate our diversity.“
     

    Replies: @JMcG, @2BR, @Rob

    Wow, we even swim faster before insemination?

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @JMcG

    Lol.

    It turns out that life begins before conception!

    , @Bill Jones
    @JMcG

    I guess it takes the female sperm longer to get ready.

  38. @HammerJack

    It is the oldest of the Seven Sisters and is in the lesbian heavy Hampshires of Western Massachusetts. But lesbians are out of fashion. Some of them are so evil as to assert that fetishists in frocks are not real women.
     
    The real injustice is that Florence King is no longer around to share her opinions on this topic. She could (and would) be withering, and in the most civilized fashion imaginable.

    On second thought, perhaps it's better that she not have to deal with our terminally benighted era.

    https://fredericksburg.com/news/local/fredericksburg/fredericksburg-author-florence-king-dead-at/article_434a042a-b665-11e5-a02e-0f90b2f4ca34.html

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Servant of Gla'aki, @Charles Pewitt, @Wade Hampton

    Flo was a real tough Lessie – in the best sense of the word. Before she died, she was alarmed about National Review’s future course. Of course, she was prescient!

  39. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Nicholas Stix

    https://twitter.com/nypdrecruit/status/1385209948964073475

    Replies: @Technite78, @Dan Hayes, @Anonymous, @The Wild Geese Howard, @El Dato

    Of the PC alternatives, NE Asian female police officers are way better than either the Black or Hispanic variety!

  40. @Triteleia Laxa

    Has anybody ever figured out whether the stereotype of lesbians being highly prone to domestic violence is really true?
     
    Anecdotally I am pretty sure it is.

    Ignoring the exceptional stories you have mentioned, it seems quite likely that female domestic violence is very high. Men hitting women is rightly demonised, but women hit men all of the time and no one publicly notices it, not even the men who get hit.

    Domestic situations can lead to very emotional conflicts for everyone involved, but extreme social pressure to reduce certain forms of behaviour can be effective, so men likely react with physical violence less than they would have, but women are not so affected by this. The men usually just outwardly shrug this off. Clearly many women feel safe to hit their much stronger male partners.

    If women are more likely to hit their partners, then lesbian couples are doubly more likely. Also, once one person hits the others then the chances of them getting hit back goes up a lot. Even where a woman hits a man. Lesbian couples I have met have often spoken of physical violence in their existing relationship, as if it is just a thing.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Bill Jones, @Ed Case

    Clearly many women feel safe to hit their much stronger male partners.

    Well, in way too many cases it’s just an incitement to wild sex ….

    • Replies: @Farenheit
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Clearly many women feel safe to hit their much stronger male partners.
     
    Well, in way too many cases it’s just an incitement to wild sex …

    Here in Northern California, that's referred to as "Mexican foreplay"

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  41. This does not align with Japanese lesbian videos I have witnessed.

    • Agree: Lurker
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Elmer T. Jones

    Lol. Classic.

    Reminds me of a funny story, which ... oh, I've told it before:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/theres-a-three-letter-word-missing-in-this-long-article-about-provincetown-covid-outbreak/#comment-4813335

    , @Stebbing Heuer
    @Elmer T. Jones

    LOL

  42. @Almost Missouri
    @Steve Sailer

    Okay, I had never heard of this Oldboy thing, so I read the plot synopsis. It sure is weird what screenwriters get up to nowadays, but I didn't see any obvious connection to the Virginia Tech shooter, who seemed like a tediously conventional—even passé—rampage shooter. So now I'm wondering how Steve spotted the connection? I mean, the movie and the shooter are both Korean and violent, but that doesn't seen like a particularly deep parallel.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Steve Sailer, @Servant of Gla'aki

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/wow-you-called-it/

    One of the commenters says I have “loose neurons” that allow me to make off-the-wall connections. I only watched 10 minutes of the Korean ultra-violent movie “Old Boy” before fleeing, but it’s a powerful movie, kind of in the way that that “Taxi Driver” helped get President Reagan shot.

    Movies are really, really influential.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Steve Sailer

    One key to understanding human behavior is that people of the same generation or location often have the same kind of formative experiences and go to the same places, read the same books, and watch the same movies or TV shows.

    When I was a young child in England I lived near Bristol where is a famous suspension bridge across a gorge. As a child I had nightmares about falling from this bridge. My family moved far away from Bristol when I was still young.

    25 years later in another country, I met a co-worker of my own age who was from the Bristol area. He said that he had the same nightmares about the same bridge.

    I know that I was very influenced by the Cliff Richard movie Summer Holiday, which may have been the first color movie I saw, and by George Orwell's Down and Out in London and Paris in ways that almost certainly changed the whole course of my life.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Steve Sailer

    So, not only did you spot the connection that the WaPo had deemed verboten, but you did it with a mere ten minutes viewing. Bravo.

    Those loose neurons keep me and the other readers coming back.

    P.S. Thanks for the link to the original article, and I second the sentiment of your readers. It's too bad that even Ron's formidable content archiving system doesn't capture visual media, so the two photos that are the subject of the story can't be seen, nor does his system capture linked off-site content such as the NYT blog, and of course, the NYT, being the NYT, if they accidentally report something interesting or accurate, make sure to delete it afterwards. But anyway, I'm guessing these are the two relevant photos:

    https://movieswithaplottwist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/old-boy-movie-poster-768x1092.jpg

    https://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/mp/da8dmbzSd9Dx.jpg

    And they do indeed seem to have a certain resonance, as the artfags say.

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted

    , @Bill P
    @Steve Sailer

    Au contraire -- it isn't "loose" anything but rather tight conceptual fusion, which is one of the bases of creative thought.

    The ability to join concepts in a synthetic dyad and then come up with a novel hypothesis is what sets us apart from animals.

    , @ic1000
    @Steve Sailer

    > Movies are really, really influential.

    A more Hollywood-friendly view is that entertainment by Bad People is Bad, but when it's made by Good People, it's Good.

    Netflix' CEO Ted Sarandos is standing by Dave Chappelle, because Chappelle is on Netflix, which is run by Good People. That penumbra is broad enough to cover his just-released special.


    Chappelle is one of the most popular stand-up comedians today, and we have a long-standing deal with him. His last special “Sticks & Stones,” also controversial, is our most-watched, stickiest and most award-winning stand-up special to date. As with our other talent, we work hard to support their creative freedom – even though this means there will always be content on Netflix some people believe is harmful...
     
    Moving on from what the powerful say that they think -- happily, a defense of the idea of free speech in this case -- in Rob Henderson's review of an older book by Roy Baumeister, he offers this opinion:

    ...research indicates that fictional portrayals of violence have some influence on a small number of highly aggressive individuals.

    Put differently, media violence seems to affect only people who are inclined toward aggression anyway.

    This is consistent with Baumeister’s claim that most violence comes not from its promotion, but rather from a lack of constraints.

    Most people do not commit violence when they see it. But for a small number of people, exposure to violence seems to reduce their already scarce levels of impulse-control.

    Thus, in the aggregate, violent media has virtually zero effect on real-world violence. But it seems to have some nontrivial effect on a subset of the population.
     
    There's some blogger who has tackled questions concerning what to do about fellow-citizens entering their teenaged years with scarce levels of impulse control. I don't think his ideas have gained all that much attention.
  43. @Almost Missouri
    @Steve Sailer

    Okay, I had never heard of this Oldboy thing, so I read the plot synopsis. It sure is weird what screenwriters get up to nowadays, but I didn't see any obvious connection to the Virginia Tech shooter, who seemed like a tediously conventional—even passé—rampage shooter. So now I'm wondering how Steve spotted the connection? I mean, the movie and the shooter are both Korean and violent, but that doesn't seen like a particularly deep parallel.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Steve Sailer, @Servant of Gla'aki

    One of the commenters says I have “loose neurons” that allow me to make off-the-wall connections. I only watched 10 minutes of the Korean ultra-violent movie “Old Boy” before fleeing, but it’s a powerful movie, kind of in the way that that “Taxi Driver” helped get President Reagan shot.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/wow-you-called-it/

  44. Fake it until you make it. As in the final denouement of Animal Farms, the pigs eventually become indistinguishable from men.

    Lesbians are mostly women who would rather not be mothers, so they turn to mutual masturbation with other women to meet their drive for sexual satisfaction, but find increasing emptiness in their lives and adopt pets rather than children to fill the void.

    A bit like anti-vaxxers who cover up their fear of being penetrated with a needle with all kinds of elaborate theories about why vaccines are a bad thing and part of the patriarchy.

    These frustrated spinsters may be prone to turning to violence once they realize what a complete f****** they have made of their lives.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Jonathan Mason


    A bit like anti-vaxxers who cover up their fear of being penetrated with a needle with all kinds of elaborate theories about why vaccines are a bad thing and part of the patriarchy.
     
    Nobody who is anti-vax is afraid of needles, you simpering idiot. Those same people all get injections for other things. What they're afraid of is becoming like you - a slavish drone who rolls over and accepts anything his masters have in store for him, you pompous fool.

    Replies: @Chicken Fried Dinosaur, @Jonathan Mason

  45. @Steve Sailer
    @Almost Missouri

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/wow-you-called-it/

    One of the commenters says I have "loose neurons" that allow me to make off-the-wall connections. I only watched 10 minutes of the Korean ultra-violent movie "Old Boy" before fleeing, but it's a powerful movie, kind of in the way that that "Taxi Driver" helped get President Reagan shot.

    Movies are really, really influential.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Almost Missouri, @Bill P, @ic1000

    One key to understanding human behavior is that people of the same generation or location often have the same kind of formative experiences and go to the same places, read the same books, and watch the same movies or TV shows.

    When I was a young child in England I lived near Bristol where is a famous suspension bridge across a gorge. As a child I had nightmares about falling from this bridge. My family moved far away from Bristol when I was still young.

    25 years later in another country, I met a co-worker of my own age who was from the Bristol area. He said that he had the same nightmares about the same bridge.

    I know that I was very influenced by the Cliff Richard movie Summer Holiday, which may have been the first color movie I saw, and by George Orwell’s Down and Out in London and Paris in ways that almost certainly changed the whole course of my life.

  46. When I watch Next Generation Star Trek at night..a drug company commercial is broadcast during the show…I think for a diabetes med…..Two lesbians on a bucolic fall drive to go pumpkin picking. One of the lesbians is white…the other a smiling fat CHINESE Lesbian. The Chinese Dear Leader in Mainland Han Nation would never tolerate this fucking sewage….

    • Agree: Dan Hayes, Gordo
    • LOL: El Dato
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Han nation > Ham nation

  47. Anon[240] • Disclaimer says:

    My wife has punched me in anger maybe three times in our 20 year relationship. But it’s like child punching you. It doesn’t hurt, you can grab her wrists and stop her anytime you feel like it, there is never any danger. It’s annoying but it’s no more of a big deal than a fight where she hurts my feeling or something. I have punched her zero times, obviously, and if I did it would be a big deal since I could hurt her very badly.

    So my guess is that lesbians hit each other more, because women are rationally less restrained in their use of the generally mild violence that they can inflict, and lesbians are more likely to call the police than husbands.

    • Replies: @additionalMike
    @Anon

    Pretty much. I was slapped by a girlfriend in 10th grade (OK, deserved) and got a punch from my wife many years ago. A girl-punch, all arm, not even painful, and certainly not dangerous.
    She has forgiven my transgressions, by the way.

    , @Lurker
    @Anon

    I was seeing a girl for a while who would on occasion get drunk* and that would make her irritable (or tearful). Once she got really angry and tried punching me. Which essentially had no effect on me whatsoever. It was mildly annoying, nothing more. It seemed what was really annoying her was that I just wasn't reacting at all. Was I supposed to shout at her, slap her, shag her right there and then? I dunno?! Didn't do any of that and we kissed and made up a few minutes later.

    What Ive taken away from it is a greater sense of the absurdity of kick-ass TV/movie girls who can fell a big man with one punch. No, ladies, you can't. (Furthermore my lady was above average female height and build, though still smaller than me and thus had a bit more heft behind her fist than the average girl).

    In the recent TV version of The Punisher we were required to believe that a 5' 4½" police girl could defeat a 5' 11" special forces guy in hand to hand combat. Later this little girl is herself almost killed in single combat with non-military, non-police 5' 3½" lady psychiatrist.

    Ridiculous.

    *Good news, I heard from her quite recently and she hasn't had a drink for year.

  48. @Mr. Anon
    Isn't diversity grand? Something tells me that New York City would be better off with a bunch of rough, politically-incorrect Irish cops who might say problematic things but were brave and loyal, than leaving policing to Chinese lesbians.

    It's funny when you think about the police corruption portrayed in Serpico. All those cops were taking bribes from numbers rackets to look the other way. Of course, we still have numbers rackets. Now they're called Lotteries, and they're run by the state governments. Things are much better now.

    Replies: @slumber_j, @Chicken Fried Dinosaur, @AceDeuce

    Of course, we still have numbers rackets. Now they’re called Lotteries, and they’re run by the state governments.

    And as I couldn’t help noticing from the ads plastered all over the subway car I rode yesterday to jury duty, the NY State Lottery is now offering to help addict you to itself through your smartphone: you get one free lottery ticket just for signing up!!

    What could possibly go wrong?

  49. @HammerJack

    It is the oldest of the Seven Sisters and is in the lesbian heavy Hampshires of Western Massachusetts. But lesbians are out of fashion. Some of them are so evil as to assert that fetishists in frocks are not real women.
     
    The real injustice is that Florence King is no longer around to share her opinions on this topic. She could (and would) be withering, and in the most civilized fashion imaginable.

    On second thought, perhaps it's better that she not have to deal with our terminally benighted era.

    https://fredericksburg.com/news/local/fredericksburg/fredericksburg-author-florence-king-dead-at/article_434a042a-b665-11e5-a02e-0f90b2f4ca34.html

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Servant of Gla'aki, @Charles Pewitt, @Wade Hampton

    Iron Florence is missed, rest assured.

  50. @Technite78
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Wow... she seems to be barely fluent in English. According to a NYPost story, she was decorated "multiple" times during her 5 year NYPD career. I have to imagine that they were all participation trophies for checking off more than 3 intersectional boxes of oppressed minorities (female, asian, lesbian). If she could only have refrained from killing one and gravely injuring another oppressed minority, she might have made it all the way to Police Commissioner!

    Replies: @Peter Lund

    Different woman, I think. The murderess is named Wu and this one’s tag says ZHANG.

    • Replies: @Technite78
    @Peter Lund

    Thanks, good catch.

    I guess Zhang still has a shot at becoming Commissioner...

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Peter Lund

    Yeah, this is Wu

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/10/14/14/49169023-10090227-image-a-16_1634217882664.jpg

    and this is Liang

    https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/10/love-triangle-506-1.jpg?quality=90&strip=all


    By the way, there are tons of Yvonne Wus...

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  51. “Hachiyanagi then reportedly revealed herself and said she wanted to talk about her feelings. ”

    This statement, if set to me by any woman, would immediately set off “General Quarters”, complete with siren whoops and alarm bells.

  52. @Anonymous
    Concerning the incidence of domestic violence amongst the 'oppressed', the conventional wisdom is that lesbians really do lick all the competition.

    Replies: @additionalMike

    Aw gosh, thanks for reviving the old Billy Jean King joke.

  53. When I read the story, I found it more interesting that it was one about women of Asian descent. Our culture is truly a form of cancer. As for lesbians being more violent, no clue. If they are, it is likely due to PMSing at the same time.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @Old and Grumpy

    The only thing I remember about seeing The Last Emperor in the movie theater is that there were a couple of hot Chinese lesbians in it.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

  54. @Anonymous
    I think you mean Berkshires, not Hampshires. (Though there is indeed a Hampshire College there.)

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Inb4 Reg Cæsar:

    Steve was just distracted by bacon.

    But seriously, Mount Holyoke is in Hampshire County, but so far as I know the locals do not refer to it as the “Hampshires”.

    The “Berkshires” are further west, more rugged, and therefore less blessed with crazy lesbians and toxic liberal arts colleges. Depending on whom you ask, “The Berkshires” may or may not be contiguous with Berkshire County.

    ——

    Savoy said Hachiyanagi, who she had considered a dear friend, repeatedly taunted her during the attack, telling her she would be blinded and disfigured before her murder. She also said Hachiyanagi, noticing the blood loss Savoy had sustained, told her victim she did not have much longer to live and then watched her bleed more.

    One too many J-horror viewings?

    There’s probably a Ringu joke in here somewhere…

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @Almost Missouri

    Almost, you are correct. Mount Holyoke is in South Hadley, Hampshire County, and I’ve never heard the local “mountains” referred to as “the Hampshires”; the Berkshires are further west, but an east-west offshoot called the “Seven Sisters” runs through Hampshire County.

    Northampton is the lesbian epicenter of the region, perhaps of the whole durn country, although the sapphic set are currently drifting into nearby Easthampton. South Hadley is mostly a normal town (the kids there play hockey, lax and football) with a women’s (sort of) college tucked in. Just guessing, but I’d bet most of the lesbionic staff at Mt Holyoke live in Northampton, Easthampton or Amherst.

    Berkshire County is odd- some declining (or declined already) industrial towns like Pittsfield, Dalton, or the Adamses, but lots of New Yorkers’ country houses, and a generous dollop of old hippies.

    Noted Lesbian Rachel Maddow has a house in the hilltowns west of Northampton, as does former Fountains of Wayne member Chris Collingwood.

    Probably more than any of you wished to know about Western Massachusetts, AKA the Pioneer Valley, or the 413.

    I’m out- gotta go and get ready for the double bill of Chris Williamson and Melissa Etheridge over in NOHO tonight…

    , @Brutusale
    @Almost Missouri


    The “Berkshires” are further west, more rugged, and therefore less blessed with crazy lesbians and toxic liberal arts colleges. Depending on whom you ask, “The Berkshires” may or may not be contiguous with Berkshire County.
     
    Berkshire county's Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts is essentially an old normal school. Teachers chasing degrees are about as moonbatty as it gets. The city it's located in, North Adams, is also home to the Massachusetts Museum of Contemporary Art. Wandering through the installations there is like attending a kindergarten art show.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @Dmon
    @Almost Missouri

    Good to see a shoutout to Al Lumnah, the Greatest Living American. King of the Modern 'Steaders, Al does everything and complains about nothing. Ibram X. Kendi is the anti-matter version of Al - if they ever meet, it could mean the end of the Universe. Fortunately, Al is up in New Hampshire somewhere, which may be in the Berkshires but is definitely not in the Hampshires.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  55. @JMcG
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Wow, we even swim faster before insemination?

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Bill Jones

    Lol.

    It turns out that life begins before conception!

  56. @Peter Lund
    @Technite78

    Different woman, I think. The murderess is named Wu and this one's tag says ZHANG.

    Replies: @Technite78, @Bardon Kaldian

    Thanks, good catch.

    I guess Zhang still has a shot at becoming Commissioner…

  57. @Almost Missouri
    @Steve Sailer

    Okay, I had never heard of this Oldboy thing, so I read the plot synopsis. It sure is weird what screenwriters get up to nowadays, but I didn't see any obvious connection to the Virginia Tech shooter, who seemed like a tediously conventional—even passé—rampage shooter. So now I'm wondering how Steve spotted the connection? I mean, the movie and the shooter are both Korean and violent, but that doesn't seen like a particularly deep parallel.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Steve Sailer, @Servant of Gla'aki

    …the Virginia Tech shooter, who seemed like a tediously conventional—even passé—rampage shooter.

    You dare to imply aspersions against the literary value of RICHARD McBEEF?!?

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Servant of Gla'aki

    Ha, I had never heard of Richard McBeef before, but since I've already a bunch of spree killers' writings, I took a few minutes to pound McBeef, and ...

    ... yes, I dare to imply—nay, to cast boldly—aspersions against its literary value. Brenton Tarrant and Elliot "Supreme Gentleman" Rodger were both more cogent and convincing writers, while the Klebold and Harris made more innovative use of media and had a better visceral grasp of their subject matter, though to be fair, English was Cho's second language. But ESL student Anders Breivik was a better and more prolific writer despite lacking Cho's educational advantage. Of course, the gold standard is Ted Kaczynski's monumental oeuvre (though I personally appreciated Tarrant's brevity and panache). By comparison, Cho's work is hackneyed and derivative (including, apparently, of Oldboy) and his stage directions are impossible (it is evident that he's never been around a chainsaw, for example.)

    So yes, tediously conventional, derivative, and even perfunctory.

  58. @Elmer T. Jones
    This does not align with Japanese lesbian videos I have witnessed.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Stebbing Heuer

    • LOL: Calvin Hobbes
  59. I have read that gay domestic violence is lower than straight couples. Perhaps it’s a “mutually assured destruction” thing, especially since gay men tend to date men who look like themselves (similar height, body type, therefore strength). That and men tend to get along better, and gay culture is, for better or worse (much worse in the AIDS era), more forgiving of cheating, which is often what leads to physical spats among couples.

  60. I used to lurk in a militant lesbian forum. ( For research purposes, lol!). Whenever the issue of domestic violence came up, lesbians never denied the reality of the situation or data. But they agreed on keeping quiet publicly for PR reasons.
    Indeed, lesbian relationships tend to be “toxic” and abusive. And the most dominant physically half of the couple is usually promiscuous and/ or jealous. As in male homo couples, there’s always a bottom and a top, in this case a more butch lesbian and a more “femme ” partner, by their standards of course.
    Believe me, I know a lot about lesbians, having shared an apartment with one for two years, and six months with a lesbian couple. I was young, I was broke, and I thought that I could turn them, lol!

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @BB753


    Believe me, I know a lot about lesbians, having shared an apartment with one for two years, and six months with a lesbian couple. I was young, I was broke, and I thought that I could turn them, lol!
     
    Sounds like a good premise for a modern horror movie.

    Maybe in a few more years...

    Replies: @BB753

  61. Studies which I can’t seem to find from the UK say that partner-on-partner violence is the worst for lesbian couples. Much worse than hetero or even gay partners. Also, among lesbians it’s more likely that both partners have been abusive and violent.

    Among the lesbian women, if there is a very feminine partner, she doesn’t mind some attention from men; obviously not sexual attention.

    In my limited but actual experience, lesbians really don’t like men. They see themselves as apart, and are happiest to be themselves with their own. If the wokesters try to push guys with frocks as being femme or lesbian, the actual lesbians will just refuse.

    The gay men I’ve known are much friendlier, but still apart. The problem arises mostly when they encourage heterosexuals to think that gay marriage is just like hetero marriage. It’s not. Don’t forget that about ten percent of married hetero couples are ok with sex partners outside of marriage, whereas two-thirds of gay couples are ok with additional sex partners. And since gay men often want to adopt, this raises the problem of aggressive males coming into the “family” environment, which also is a terrible problem for single mother households and their minor age children.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Anon7


    In my limited but actual experience, lesbians really don’t like men.
     
    While I can't really generalize, when in my late college years I went to a hair cutter whose shop morphed from being mixed (gay/non gay) in the gay area, to one that became run by lesbians.

    My cutter, around my age, was obviously lesbian but not butch. After a few months I was "asked" not to return again, given no reason.

    Obviously my cutter was told to ditch me as a customer. I wasn't a gay male so I became verboten.

    I didn't like this (nor the absence of an honest reason given) but I also believe in personal choice.
  62. @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous

    Inb4 Reg Cæsar:

    Steve was just distracted by bacon.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/01/fe/30/01fe30400db6ad7e0ad511fc5d5e6696.jpg

    But seriously, Mount Holyoke is in Hampshire County, but so far as I know the locals do not refer to it as the "Hampshires".

    The "Berkshires" are further west, more rugged, and therefore less blessed with crazy lesbians and toxic liberal arts colleges. Depending on whom you ask, "The Berkshires" may or may not be contiguous with Berkshire County.

    ------


    Savoy said Hachiyanagi, who she had considered a dear friend, repeatedly taunted her during the attack, telling her she would be blinded and disfigured before her murder. She also said Hachiyanagi, noticing the blood loss Savoy had sustained, told her victim she did not have much longer to live and then watched her bleed more.
     
    One too many J-horror viewings?

    There's probably a Ringu joke in here somewhere...

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Brutusale, @Dmon

    Almost, you are correct. Mount Holyoke is in South Hadley, Hampshire County, and I’ve never heard the local “mountains” referred to as “the Hampshires”; the Berkshires are further west, but an east-west offshoot called the “Seven Sisters” runs through Hampshire County.

    Northampton is the lesbian epicenter of the region, perhaps of the whole durn country, although the sapphic set are currently drifting into nearby Easthampton. South Hadley is mostly a normal town (the kids there play hockey, lax and football) with a women’s (sort of) college tucked in. Just guessing, but I’d bet most of the lesbionic staff at Mt Holyoke live in Northampton, Easthampton or Amherst.

    Berkshire County is odd- some declining (or declined already) industrial towns like Pittsfield, Dalton, or the Adamses, but lots of New Yorkers’ country houses, and a generous dollop of old hippies.

    Noted Lesbian Rachel Maddow has a house in the hilltowns west of Northampton, as does former Fountains of Wayne member Chris Collingwood.

    Probably more than any of you wished to know about Western Massachusetts, AKA the Pioneer Valley, or the 413.

    I’m out- gotta go and get ready for the double bill of Chris Williamson and Melissa Etheridge over in NOHO tonight…

  63. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Nicholas Stix

    https://twitter.com/nypdrecruit/status/1385209948964073475

    Replies: @Technite78, @Dan Hayes, @Anonymous, @The Wild Geese Howard, @El Dato

    Officer Zhang ain’t no lesbo, she’s absolutely gorgeous.

  64. It’s not just the Dykes.
    I’ve seen, in the before days, a couple of surveys that fairly incontestably demonstrated that the majority of domestic violence victims were male. Given the beatings that rug-munchers endure the hetero women are clearly not adverse to tuning up their partners.
    From time to time, I make a half-hearted attempt to find the studies I have in mind but they seem to have been disappeared. I sometimes find obscure references to them.

    This is one of the things that caused me to download the Covid smoking guns to my PC (Things like the July ’20 CDC instructions on how to conduct RT-PCR tests where they say on page 39 that they don’t have an isolated Covid-19 sample so here’s the work around).
    The next lesson I need to learn is, either (both?) to back up all data regularly or not fry the PC by flicking breaker box switches on and off to find the source of an oddball outlet socket..
    C’est la vie.

  65. @Steve Sailer
    @Almost Missouri

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/wow-you-called-it/

    One of the commenters says I have "loose neurons" that allow me to make off-the-wall connections. I only watched 10 minutes of the Korean ultra-violent movie "Old Boy" before fleeing, but it's a powerful movie, kind of in the way that that "Taxi Driver" helped get President Reagan shot.

    Movies are really, really influential.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Almost Missouri, @Bill P, @ic1000

    So, not only did you spot the connection that the WaPo had deemed verboten, but you did it with a mere ten minutes viewing. Bravo.

    Those loose neurons keep me and the other readers coming back.

    P.S. Thanks for the link to the original article, and I second the sentiment of your readers. It’s too bad that even Ron’s formidable content archiving system doesn’t capture visual media, so the two photos that are the subject of the story can’t be seen, nor does his system capture linked off-site content such as the NYT blog, and of course, the NYT, being the NYT, if they accidentally report something interesting or accurate, make sure to delete it afterwards. But anyway, I’m guessing these are the two relevant photos:

    And they do indeed seem to have a certain resonance, as the artfags say.

    • Thanks: Gordo, El Dato
    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    @Almost Missouri

    Anyone gripping hammers like those cheeky chappies would be laughed off site, or more likely hazed mercilessly. Guaranteed half-crown marks.
    It's the first thing you learn as an apprentice, along with the saw handhold, sawing square, and splitting the line.
    The lower, balder one is holding it exactly like a gurly would. Is it, in fact an XX-chromy? Or a rather weedy boy?
    It's almost as though they don't have a clue what they're doing, and couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.

    Replies: @Bill P, @El Dato

  66. @JMcG
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Wow, we even swim faster before insemination?

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Bill Jones

    I guess it takes the female sperm longer to get ready.

    • LOL: JMcG
  67. @Triteleia Laxa

    Has anybody ever figured out whether the stereotype of lesbians being highly prone to domestic violence is really true?
     
    Anecdotally I am pretty sure it is.

    Ignoring the exceptional stories you have mentioned, it seems quite likely that female domestic violence is very high. Men hitting women is rightly demonised, but women hit men all of the time and no one publicly notices it, not even the men who get hit.

    Domestic situations can lead to very emotional conflicts for everyone involved, but extreme social pressure to reduce certain forms of behaviour can be effective, so men likely react with physical violence less than they would have, but women are not so affected by this. The men usually just outwardly shrug this off. Clearly many women feel safe to hit their much stronger male partners.

    If women are more likely to hit their partners, then lesbian couples are doubly more likely. Also, once one person hits the others then the chances of them getting hit back goes up a lot. Even where a woman hits a man. Lesbian couples I have met have often spoken of physical violence in their existing relationship, as if it is just a thing.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Bill Jones, @Ed Case

    Another counter-intuitive phenomenon I’ve noticed is that women seem to break thing more than men. I think it’s because men assume they can open, move, disassemble etc things and so if they can’t look for a physical/mechanical reason why not. Women tend more to assume it’s a lack of physical strength and therefore more force is required.

  68. @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous

    Inb4 Reg Cæsar:

    Steve was just distracted by bacon.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/01/fe/30/01fe30400db6ad7e0ad511fc5d5e6696.jpg

    But seriously, Mount Holyoke is in Hampshire County, but so far as I know the locals do not refer to it as the "Hampshires".

    The "Berkshires" are further west, more rugged, and therefore less blessed with crazy lesbians and toxic liberal arts colleges. Depending on whom you ask, "The Berkshires" may or may not be contiguous with Berkshire County.

    ------


    Savoy said Hachiyanagi, who she had considered a dear friend, repeatedly taunted her during the attack, telling her she would be blinded and disfigured before her murder. She also said Hachiyanagi, noticing the blood loss Savoy had sustained, told her victim she did not have much longer to live and then watched her bleed more.
     
    One too many J-horror viewings?

    There's probably a Ringu joke in here somewhere...

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Brutusale, @Dmon

    The “Berkshires” are further west, more rugged, and therefore less blessed with crazy lesbians and toxic liberal arts colleges. Depending on whom you ask, “The Berkshires” may or may not be contiguous with Berkshire County.

    Berkshire county’s Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts is essentially an old normal school. Teachers chasing degrees are about as moonbatty as it gets. The city it’s located in, North Adams, is also home to the Massachusetts Museum of Contemporary Art. Wandering through the installations there is like attending a kindergarten art show.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Brutusale

    I've been to MassMoCA a few times. Even though I have to choke back my contempt for most of the "art", it can still make for a diverting day out. The old mill building that houses it is impressive and redolent of a bygone New England era. I often find myself looking more at the building and its old fixtures and signage than at the exhibits, of which maybe a one in ten or one in a hundred merit attention.

    From a business point of view, the fundraisers and directors can claim an achievement. Twenty years ago, MassMoCA looked like some misbegotten collision of leftover blue-collar socialism with quirky hippy-art idealism, in a barely heated, poorly lit wing of a barely renovated factory, apparently on a shoestring budget. Nowadays it's a destination unto itself, with tour groups, school programs, and annual membership cadres. I might not admire it, but its material success can't be denied.

    BTW, if you want to save a bundle on the overpriced entrance fees, and you are member of any local library, they usually have pairs of membership passes you can "check out" for the day. Lots of other Berkshires attractions are like this too, even much better places.

    Replies: @Brutusale

  69. @White Guy In Japan
    @bonin41

    Some Japanese women can go stalker crazy rather quickly and in an unspoken manner. Speaking from a position of firsthand experience. Lesbianism would probably add another level of crazy.

    Replies: @Ray P, @E. Rekshun, @anon

    Exactly what I thought based only on having watched In the realm of the senses (1976) twice when I was nineteen. Audition (1999) seems to be the modern version.

  70. Lesbians are more sadistic. Women are about as strong as twelve or thirteen year old boys but are willing to use all their force in a cruel manner. They also seem to lack an off switch.

  71. @HammerJack
    @Reg Cæsar


    You’ve become so comfortable, that one (or both of you) gained weight. Like a lot of weight.
     
    This is the Lesbian Credo, I believe. It's the natural corollary of:

    A World Without Men? It would be full of fat, happy women!
     
    The typical solution is to gain weight carefully in tandem, and as quickly as possible. And as much as possible.

    Even Florence King was trying to hide behind those roses, and she wasn't fooling anyone. Like those old Mamas and Papas album covers, where they did their best to hide Mama Cass's girth, and it was just never enough. But I digress.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @AnotherDad, @Known Fact, @Reg Cæsar

    You’ve become so comfortable, that one (or both of you) gained weight. Like a lot of weight.

    From Steve’s 2009 review of the film of J.M. Coetzee’s novel Disgrace:

    Although the movie is very faithful to the bleakly Malthusian novel, the book is funnier. For example, when the ex-professor wonders whether his daughter truly is a lesbian, he muses, “€œSapphic love: an excuse for putting on weight.”€

  72. When I first visited a nightclub with a large gay and lesbian clientele (decades ago), I found myself breaking up a fight between two girls, a real good hairpulling and face-scratching contest. Afterwards a kindly male regular advised me not to try that again because they might both turn on me next time.

    I can imagine that a combination of intense relationship plus bed death might lead to some serious trouble.

    Or drunken jealousy.

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/arsenal-ladies-millwall-lionesses-lesbian-17004877

    “One woman was left needing stitches after Arsenal Ladies’ and Millwall Lionesses’ players got in a tussle outside a pub during a Gay Pride drinking session.

    A court heard how it all kicked off when Millwall’s Frankie Strugnell allegedly started flirting with teammate Leah Jones in central London’s Mantagu Pyke pub.

    Arsenal defender Jemma Rose, who was in a relationship with Miss Jones at the time, got angry and a fight started that spilled out onto the street.”

    For those who are hungry for more, I believe there’s a site called “Brawl Online” that has an LGBT category.

    • Replies: @Obstinate Cymric
    @Obstinate Cymric

    As ever, some folk take it to extremes

    https://nypost.com/2021/04/22/chilling-video-shows-woman-gunned-down-on-nyc-street/


    The victim, identified as Nichelle Thomas, 51, was shot just before 1 p.m. at Fourth Avenue and St. Marks Place in Park Slope.

    Footage obtained by The Post shows Thomas approaching a bodega at the corner of St. Marks Place — apparently unaware her ex is about to launch an attack.

    As Thomas goes to open the door, 38-year-old Latisha Bell allegedly sprints up and pulls a gun. Bell then allegedly shoots Thomas point-blank in the back of the head and flees.

    The chilling nine-second video ends with the victim crumpling to the ground.

    She was rushed to a hospital, where she died, police said.

    The two women used to be in a relationship, police sources said. It wasn’t immediately clear when they broke up.
     

    Replies: @El Dato, @Reg Cæsar

  73. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Nicholas Stix

    https://twitter.com/nypdrecruit/status/1385209948964073475

    Replies: @Technite78, @Dan Hayes, @Anonymous, @The Wild Geese Howard, @El Dato

    She’s just there to keep tabs on the fools who think they can escape Xi and the CCP by hiding out in Chinatown.

  74. Two comments:

    1. Since Steve mentioned data collected by emergency medicine, everyone should be aware that such data does not support the idea that the vast majority of domestic violence is male on female. As any emergency medicine nurse will confirm, it is closer to 50/50 on the gender of the perpretrator. Just ask them about what a golf club, baseball bat, cook pan can do to a male who is passed out drunk.

    3. Steve should write about the disappearance of the “Butch” lesbian. That is where many of the female to male trans are coming from. One idea is that gender fluidity was eliminate the lesbian only space and steered lesbians into becoming either non-binary or trans.

    • Replies: @jim don bob
    @guest007


    Steve should write about the disappearance of the “Butch” lesbian. That is where many of the female to male trans are coming from.
     
    Well said. I have thought this for a long time.
  75. @Obstinate Cymric
    When I first visited a nightclub with a large gay and lesbian clientele (decades ago), I found myself breaking up a fight between two girls, a real good hairpulling and face-scratching contest. Afterwards a kindly male regular advised me not to try that again because they might both turn on me next time.

    I can imagine that a combination of intense relationship plus bed death might lead to some serious trouble.

    Or drunken jealousy.

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/arsenal-ladies-millwall-lionesses-lesbian-17004877

    "One woman was left needing stitches after Arsenal Ladies' and Millwall Lionesses' players got in a tussle outside a pub during a Gay Pride drinking session.

    A court heard how it all kicked off when Millwall's Frankie Strugnell allegedly started flirting with teammate Leah Jones in central London's Mantagu Pyke pub.

    Arsenal defender Jemma Rose, who was in a relationship with Miss Jones at the time, got angry and a fight started that spilled out onto the street."

     

    For those who are hungry for more, I believe there's a site called "Brawl Online" that has an LGBT category.

    Replies: @Obstinate Cymric

    As ever, some folk take it to extremes

    https://nypost.com/2021/04/22/chilling-video-shows-woman-gunned-down-on-nyc-street/

    The victim, identified as Nichelle Thomas, 51, was shot just before 1 p.m. at Fourth Avenue and St. Marks Place in Park Slope.

    Footage obtained by The Post shows Thomas approaching a bodega at the corner of St. Marks Place — apparently unaware her ex is about to launch an attack.

    As Thomas goes to open the door, 38-year-old Latisha Bell allegedly sprints up and pulls a gun. Bell then allegedly shoots Thomas point-blank in the back of the head and flees.

    The chilling nine-second video ends with the victim crumpling to the ground.

    She was rushed to a hospital, where she died, police said.

    The two women used to be in a relationship, police sources said. It wasn’t immediately clear when they broke up.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Obstinate Cymric


    Footage obtained by The Post shows Thomas approaching a bodega at the corner of St. Marks Place — apparently unaware her ex is about to launch an attack.
     
    Random National Geographic Video.mpg
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Obstinate Cymric


    The victim, identified as Nichelle Thomas
     
    Nichelle is in a hoodie. Is she a megress?
  76. If so, why are lesbians so violent toward each other?

    Easy.

    They’re driven completely insane by intense, mutual sexual frustration stemming from the fact that trying to get into a woman’s pants is such a chore.

    • LOL: SteveRogers42
  77. @J.Ross
    OT, what happens if the government is made up of two bit grifters who just want to get rich, and then a real JFK-requiring emergency happens?

    Israel is reporting the highest coronavirus infection rate in the world, showing that neither vaccine mandates nor “vaccine passports” are suitable means to limit or end the pandemic.

    https://swprs.org/israel-highest-infection-rate-in-the-world/

    Sweden banned Israeli citizens, even if vaccinated from entering the country.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/portugal-sweden-slap-covid-entry-ban-on-israelis-including-those-vaccinated/

    The WHO director for Europe acknowledged that covid vaccines won’t achieve ‘herd immunity’.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-09-vaccines-pandemic.html

    By October, ‘vaccine passport’ pioneers Singapore and Lithuania were reaching record infection rates.

    https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..2021-10-10&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=SGP~LTU~European+Union~USA

    Replies: @dearieme, @Bill Jones, @anon

    Sweden banned Israeli citizens, even if vaccinated from entering the country.

    Should be

    Sweden banned Israeli citizens from entering the country.

    The vaccination isn’t. It is not, and never has been about conferring immunity from infection. It’s claims are to reducing symptoms and greatly lessening the chances of hospitalization ( Once they get you hospitalized, you’re a goner).
    The drug companies are in the business of managing diseases not curing them; where’s the money in that?

    A blanket ban on Israeli’s is something we can all get behind.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Bill Jones


    The drug companies are in the business of managing diseases not curing them; where’s the money in that?
     
    People are never happy. Remember when the prediction was "possibly no vaccine before early 2022"?

    Well, looks like we are at least in a situation where keeling over can be well prevented. Seeing that everyone will eventually come into contact with COVID and that IFR is 0.3%, that's good. It will become endemic, alternative treatment will become more prevalent than senseless vaccinations and hopefully the stupid "kid vaccination" programs will cease, someone will politically ejected for failings and that will be that.

    Also, Russians aren't getting their vaccination and possibly ivermectin treatments haven't caught on (would be good to have stats on that) and this has consequences:

    19 months into pandemic, Russia’s daily official Covid-19 death toll surpasses 1,000 for first time since deadly virus emerged

    Take your vitamin D!

    Let's go Brandon:

    US Treasury deputy sec warns unvaxxed Americans that shortages will continue until EVERYONE is jabbed


    Wally Adeyemo, the Biden administration’s second-highest official in the Treasury Department, appeared to publicly blackmail the still-sizable portion of Americans who have not been vaccinated against Covid-19 during a Thursday ABC interview, seemingly blaming them for the ongoing shortages of consumer goods that have led many to mock the president as ‘Empty Shelves Joe’.

    Despite viral photos depicting thousands of cargo ships lined up at the Port of Los Angeles ready to unload their goods, Adeyemo claimed that the supply chain issues plaguing so many US retailers are an international issue and will only let up when a sufficient percentage of the country has been vaccinated.

     

    UK not allowed to export trash:

    ‘Failed’ former Health Secretary Matt Hancock loses UN Africa job just hours after celebrating the appointment online


    Former UK Health Secretary Matt Hancock won’t become the special envoy for a United Nations commission working on Africa’s recovery from Covid-19, after the UN suddenly decided not to take his appointment forward.

    The job of UN envoy for financial innovation and climate change for the Economic Commission for Africa (ECA) was seen as a chance for Hancock to revive his career after his scandalous resignation from the UK government this June.

    The 43-year-old was forced to quit his job as health secretary after being photographed kissing a female aide at his office in violation of the coronavirus social distancing rules.
     

  78. Holyoke has Asian on Black violence! This will throw off the FBI crime statistics for years.

  79. @New Dealer
    Google Scholar is your friend. Search “female same sex domestic violence”

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0092623X.2014.958792
    2015, "Same-Sex Domestic Violence: Prevalence, Unique Aspects, and Clinical Implications"

    SSDV = Same-Sex Domestic Violence, OSDV = Opposite-Sex


    Current prevalence rates of SSDV are considered similar to slightly higher than OSDV rates, with the exception of a secondary data analysis indicating SSDV rates as double that of OSDV (Messinger, 2011).
     
    Also

    In the female SSDV literature, a common theme is the contributory effect of lesbian fusion on violence. Waldner-Haugrud, Gratch, and Magruder (1997) defined lesbian fusion as “the tendency for lesbian couples to withdraw from the community, and become socially isolated and fused within the relationship unit” (p.180). Higher likelihood of physical aggression has been associated with participants reporting higher levels of fusion to the relationship in combination with a partner being identified as controlling (Miller, Greene, Causby, White, & Lockhart, 2001)
     
    Lesbian fusion! Live and learn.


    Similar entries at Scholar in earlier years. Also search on "lesbian domestic violence."

    Lots of ideological angst in this literature, because domestic violence is supposed to be caused by “patriarchy.” Usual epicycle dodges: SSDV is really caused by patriarchy, heteronormativity, etc.

    As for opposite-sex, there tends to be more physical violence by men against women (probably having to do with average relative strength?). One ambitious study outside the U.S. asked the same respondents about physical violence and for the first time whether they “feared” their spouse. Considerably more males than females engaged in physical violence, but fear of spouse was equal for men and women, IIRC, about 15% each.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix, @Harry Baldwin, @J1234

    “We know that violence affects everyone, regardless of sexual orientation. This report suggests that lesbians, gay men and bisexuals in this country suffer a heavy toll of sexual violence and stalking committed by an intimate partner,” CDC Director Tom Frieden said in a statement.

    For example, domestic violence against a woman was reported by nearly 44 percent of lesbians and about 61 percent by bisexuals compared to 35 percent of heterosexuals. Among men, 26 percent of gays and about 37 percent of bisexuals reported partner violence compared to 29 percent of heterosexuals.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-gays-violence-idUSBRE90O11W20130125https://www.unz.com/isteve/lesbian-domestic-violence/#respond

  80. @Reg Cæsar
    10 Stages of Lesbian Bed Death You Probably Recognize

    These ladies turn it up to 11.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Catdompanj

    Just curious. How on earth did you stumble onto this site, let alone this article Reg?

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Catdompanj

    From that site

    https://www.pride.com/celebrities/2021/9/28/grimes-wants-start-lesbian-space-commune-after-elon-musk-split

    "Grimes Wants to Start Lesbian Space Commune After Elon Musk Split"

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Catdompanj


    Just curious. How on earth did you stumble onto this site, let alone this article Reg?
     
    Stumble? I've been reading Steve since his NRODT days, almost 30 years ago. I did a search for "lesbian bed death", a phenomenon I learned of from Mrs C, who used to work in the lower ranks of publishing, a very female-- and talkative-- environment. This is what popped up.

    (From the search, not her environment. She works from home now.)

  81. I heard from ER nurses years ago about the full moon effect. They all told me there are more car accidents, births, physical assaults, and other incidents on the full moon. When I meet an ER nurse, I always ask about it. Each one confirms that it is their experience.

    On Lesbian domestic violence, a friend who is a criminal defense attorney has told me about the large number of Lesbian (and gay) cases he has seen.

    • Replies: @murse
    @Gaius Gracchus

    I'm an ER nurse and it's mostly bullshit, just something else for the night shift to bitch about

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Gaius Gracchus

    I knew an old veteran US Army officer who had married a German lady. He told me they were vacationing on a North Sea island when she was very pregnant. She went into labor and the officer called the sole doctor on the island to come quick, his wife was about to deliver their baby! But the doctor demurred. "I've worked on this island my entire life, and no baby has ever been born at ebb tide", he said. The officer protested but the doctor was firm: he wouldn't bother coming until the tide came in.

    This was in the immediate aftermath of WWII, when the occupying militaries had been known to kill local Germans "accidentally" without bearing any responsibility for it. So for the doctor to defy a US officer who was already overwrought at the impending birth of his first child, on this remote island, was to take his life into his hands. But the doctor stood firm, ... and, as it turned out, so did the baby. A few hours later, the tide, the doctor, and the baby all arrived together.

    Now maybe I've misremembered a detail or two. It might have been a Baltic Sea island instead of a North Sea island. Or maybe it was high tide instead of ebb tide. But the main point remains: the experience of an intelligent, educated, and professional man was so dispositive that he was willing to bet his life that no baby would be born on the wrong side of the moon/tide cycle. That oughta count for something.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @S. Anonyia
    @Gaius Gracchus

    Lots of teachers also swear kids/teenagers act crazier during a full moon. I couldn’t tell the difference during my time as a teacher- out of control behavior seemed more related to disruptions like impending holidays, bad weather, or school assemblies. Older and black teachers believed in the full moon effect most.

  82. I asked an nyc cop I know what crimes are most common among Asians and he immediately said ‘domestic violence.’ DV mostly occurs in the home obviously, so those industrious, stoic Asians you see out and about are saving it for later.

    • LOL: Polistra
  83. Old joke: why kiss a Smithie when you can mount a Holyoke?

    New joke: why mount a Holyoke when you can transition to Mrs. Smith?

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  84. @J.Ross
    OT, what happens if the government is made up of two bit grifters who just want to get rich, and then a real JFK-requiring emergency happens?

    Israel is reporting the highest coronavirus infection rate in the world, showing that neither vaccine mandates nor “vaccine passports” are suitable means to limit or end the pandemic.

    https://swprs.org/israel-highest-infection-rate-in-the-world/

    Sweden banned Israeli citizens, even if vaccinated from entering the country.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/portugal-sweden-slap-covid-entry-ban-on-israelis-including-those-vaccinated/

    The WHO director for Europe acknowledged that covid vaccines won’t achieve ‘herd immunity’.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-09-vaccines-pandemic.html

    By October, ‘vaccine passport’ pioneers Singapore and Lithuania were reaching record infection rates.

    https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..2021-10-10&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=SGP~LTU~European+Union~USA

    Replies: @dearieme, @Bill Jones, @anon

    Look at current Israel statistics. This was 45 days ago. Cases peaked, then rapidly declined.

    • Replies: @HA
    @anon

    "Cases peaked, then rapidly declined."

    Yes, whether it was the booster shots, or the fact that the delta variant fizzles out quickly, if the experience of India and the UK is any guide, or else some combination of both those factors, Isreal is doing pretty well about now, and looking to do even better in the weeks ahead, and even though the infection rates got high, the death rate was lower than in the past . About 40% of the COVID deaths there a while ago were coming from the unvaccinated, even though they're a small minority in Israel, so that tells you something.

    In other words, if this is supposed to be some argument against vaccination, whoever is trying to spin it that way needs to rethink it. Or, as you say, at least update it.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

  85. @Almost Missouri
    @Steve Sailer

    So, not only did you spot the connection that the WaPo had deemed verboten, but you did it with a mere ten minutes viewing. Bravo.

    Those loose neurons keep me and the other readers coming back.

    P.S. Thanks for the link to the original article, and I second the sentiment of your readers. It's too bad that even Ron's formidable content archiving system doesn't capture visual media, so the two photos that are the subject of the story can't be seen, nor does his system capture linked off-site content such as the NYT blog, and of course, the NYT, being the NYT, if they accidentally report something interesting or accurate, make sure to delete it afterwards. But anyway, I'm guessing these are the two relevant photos:

    https://movieswithaplottwist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/old-boy-movie-poster-768x1092.jpg

    https://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/mp/da8dmbzSd9Dx.jpg

    And they do indeed seem to have a certain resonance, as the artfags say.

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted

    Anyone gripping hammers like those cheeky chappies would be laughed off site, or more likely hazed mercilessly. Guaranteed half-crown marks.
    It’s the first thing you learn as an apprentice, along with the saw handhold, sawing square, and splitting the line.
    The lower, balder one is holding it exactly like a gurly would. Is it, in fact an XX-chromy? Or a rather weedy boy?
    It’s almost as though they don’t have a clue what they’re doing, and couldn’t hit a cow’s arse with a banjo.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Bill P
    @Expletive Deleted

    Maybe he didn't know much about using a hammer, but he sure knew his way around a 9mm pistol.

    , @El Dato
    @Expletive Deleted

    Look, they are not intending to hammer in nails. One is movie promotional material apparently of a guy about to give someone a terrific headache and the other imitates movie promotional material on MySpace or whatever was hot back then.

    You might as well complain about hacking exploits and those magic computer graphics that are actually meant to explain plot points in Hollywood fare.

  86. @Bardon Kaldian
    Read some of these links...



    https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/05/31/lesbian-couple-found-guilty-of-murdering-two-year-old-son/

    Brazilian mother and lesbian lover ‘tore off nine-year-old’s penis’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7146517/Brazilian-mother-27-lesbian-lover-28-tore-nine-year-old-sons-penis.html

    Baltimore Lesbian Couple Charged with Killing 4-Year-Old Son

    https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2019/08/04/baltimore-lesbian-couple-charged-with-killing-4-year-old-son-found-dead-in-dumpster/

    Lesbian Kills Daughter, Blames Bible Sermon After Partner Breaks Up With Her

    https://www.advocate.com/crime/2014/05/31/lesbian-kills-daughter-blames-bible-sermon-after-partner-breaks-her

    Details Revealed About Lesbian Couple’s Horrific Abuse Of Their 5-Year-Old Son That Caused Two Strokes And Broken Bones

    https://www.yourtango.com/2017306840/details-oklahoma-lesbian-couple-child-abuse-son-jail-duct-tape

    Lesbians convicted of child abuse lose appeal (14753)

    https://www.advocate.com/news/2005/01/08/lesbians-convicted-child-abuse-lose-appeal-14753

    Inside Brutal Baby Lollipops Murder Case That Shook South Florida

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/inside-brutal-baby-lollipops-murder-case-that-shook-south-florida-113594/

    Murder charge mother ‘failed’ son Liam

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-36342256

    Huff-Puff lies, as ever:

    Child Abuse Rate At Zero Percent In Lesbian Households, New Report Finds

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lesbians-child-abuse-0-percent_n_781624

    The hatred of men is a theme in the lesbian radical feminist community. From Emily McComb’s

    https://dailycaller.com/2017/12/29/huffington-post-editor-reveals-new-years-resolution-kill-all-men/

    So- why do have sons? Not adopted? Mother nature is a wise woman ….

    https://albertmohler.com/2004/12/14/lesbians-raising-sons-got-a-problem-with-that

    So- why do have sons? Not adopted? Mother nature is a wise woman ….

    In her introduction, Jess Wells explains that the whole issue of lesbians raising sons is due to a biological circumstance. “A socially and biologically driven phenomenon is producing a disproportionate number of male children within the current lesbian baby boom. Lesbians who choose to undergo donor insemination now have at least a 65 percent chance of bearing a son.” Wells went on to explain why this is so. She argues that male sperm weigh less than female sperm and therefore swim faster and are more likely to reach the egg ahead of sperm without a Y chromosome. The disproportionate number of boys born to lesbian mothers is thus, at least in part, an ironic slap in the face from an unforgiving biological fact.
     

    Morgan and her partner also worked to create a feminist environment in which their son would be raised. “We tried to offer alternatives to the patriarchal ‘norms.’ We celebrated Wiccan holidays with much pomp, while giving a superficial nod to Christmas and Hanukkah. He was offered–and played with–dolls and tea sets as well as with fire trucks and tractors.”
     

    An even more extreme vision of lesbian motherhood and sons was related by Ruthann Robson as she explained the response of lesbian separatists to the birth of her son. Having been separatists themselves, they were puzzled by how they would deal with this baby boy. “What were two dykes going to do with this miniature emissary from the patriarchy who invaded our lives? One of us would be the one to give him a bath every night. The other one would be telling bedtime stories.”
     

    In her own chapter, Jess Wells insisted that she had done everything within her power to avoid giving birth to a son. “How had this happened? I had paid to have the sperm sex-selected. The sperm had been made to swim for hours, and the fastest swimmers–the ‘male’ sperm–had been poured down the sink.
     

    “I had been planning on a girl,” Wells remembered. “It was essential that I have a girl.” When she was told that her womb contained a boy, she was “profoundly disappointed.” As an ardent opponent of “male privilege, patriarchy, and male culture,” Wells didn’t want anything to do with raising a boy.
     

    Eventually, she was reconciled to the fact that her child was a boy and decided this could be a positive experience. “My son cannot take me away from the struggle for women’s rights, nor can he force me to take an interest in anything that I don’t deem interesting. He cannot be my oppressor because he is my child, and he cannot be a second chance to relive my life because he has his own life. He and I will explore each other’s cultures, sharing what we can and respecting what we can’t . . . Both of us, respecting each other’s sovereignty, can rejoice in our foreignness and celebrate our diversity.“
     

    Replies: @JMcG, @2BR, @Rob

    Why doesn’t the faster swimming work in nature?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @2BR

    It seems this is not resolved yet ....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shettles_method

    Shettles method

    https://www.science.org/content/article/worth-waiting

    Worth Waiting For?


    https://www.science.org/content/article/changing-sperm-speed-can-influence-offspring-s-sex-mouse-study-suggests

    Changing sperm speed can influence offspring's sex, mouse study suggests

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/sperm-sorting-chemical-method-mice-male-female-ivf-a9056941.html

    Scientists find way to distinguish male sperm from female, which may allow couples to choose IVF boy or girl

  87. @Jonathan Mason
    Fake it until you make it. As in the final denouement of Animal Farms, the pigs eventually become indistinguishable from men.

    Lesbians are mostly women who would rather not be mothers, so they turn to mutual masturbation with other women to meet their drive for sexual satisfaction, but find increasing emptiness in their lives and adopt pets rather than children to fill the void.

    A bit like anti-vaxxers who cover up their fear of being penetrated with a needle with all kinds of elaborate theories about why vaccines are a bad thing and part of the patriarchy.

    These frustrated spinsters may be prone to turning to violence once they realize what a complete f****** they have made of their lives.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    A bit like anti-vaxxers who cover up their fear of being penetrated with a needle with all kinds of elaborate theories about why vaccines are a bad thing and part of the patriarchy.

    Nobody who is anti-vax is afraid of needles, you simpering idiot. Those same people all get injections for other things. What they’re afraid of is becoming like you – a slavish drone who rolls over and accepts anything his masters have in store for him, you pompous fool.

    • Thanks: Bragadocious
    • Replies: @Chicken Fried Dinosaur
    @Mr. Anon

    What, you trust the medical establishment when it recommends injections in other contexts, but not this one? So you're like, 75% obedient to your "masters," much better than those 100% obedient peasants.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Mr. Anon


    Nobody who is anti-vax is afraid of needles, you simpering idiot. Those same people all get injections for other things. What they’re afraid of is becoming like you – a slavish drone who rolls over and accepts anything his masters have in store for him, you pompous fool.

     

    Not so fast!

    "Needle phobia" is thought to affect about 10% of people and leads to them not volunteering to donate blood, not being willing to participate in clinical trials, and avoiding entering medical professions, so it would not be surprising if those who suffer from needle phobia would be particularly sympathetic to conspiracy theory type ideas about vaccines that would make them feel that by not getting vaccinated they were somehow making a valid and unselfish protest that amounted to a contribution to human welfare and freedom.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-58086377

    https://www.vogue.com/article/covid-19-vaccine-hesitancy-fear-of-needles

    It has been reported that as many as 6 "right wing radio hosts" who had used mass media to advocate against vaccinations have died from Covid-19, with some of them allegedly repenting on their death beds.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/09/anti-vax-radio-hosts-dying-covid

    Imagine the impact if 6 Republican senators had died of Covid-19, having advocated against vaccinations.

    Of course the Republican senators, whether they admit it or not, have all been vaccinated, because they aren't really ready to lay down their lives for their fellow men.

    There are questions, however, about other world leaders, for example Bolsanaro in Brazil who claims not to have been vaccinated, and Vladimir Putin who was not vaccinated on camera and has not revealed which vaccine he was given, possibly because the vaccine he was given was not Russia's vaunted double-whammy Sputnik V, but some other (a dose of Pfizer donated by his friend Don, perhaps?).

    Bolsanaro has claimed that he does not need the vaccine, having already been infected with Covid-19 himself, but apparently he did not stop his wife from getting the shot on a recent visit to New York, and has now substantially reversed his position on vaccines in Brazil due to domestic pressures.

    https://time.com/5946401/brazil-covid-19-vaccines-bolsonaro/

    (Anyway, someone who gives up their free time to post ad hominem insults under a pseudonym is clearly displaying extreme anxiety about the topic under discussion--hypodermic needle phobia--, so one has to wonder why and hope that this jab does not cause too much anguish.)

    Replies: @Kronos

  88. Vermont lesbians in the nineties would get legally married in Vermont, legally adapt children (one lesbian was maternal, the other paternal). When the bed death set in, the maternal lesbian, instead of divorcing with visitation, would come to Virginia, which recognized nothing but the maternal adoption papers since legal lesbian marriage was not the law in Virginia. The maternal lesbian would then file for restraining orders against the paternal lesbian as if she was a stalker. The spurned paternal lesbian would show up in Virginia with no marital/parental rights but with easy access to guns and the WashPost article detailing the slaughter,would end with, “the shooter then turned the gun on herself”. It happened a lot, more than they reported. Where there was a new boyfriend or girlfriend, they got shot too. Happens everywhere, ALL the time. Lesbians spurned are vicious. Just as bad as a male>female tranny who is told he can’t carry a baby. Sick fucking people, every one of them.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Bragadocious
    @Jim Christian

    Interesting...I'm thinking there's a whole subgenre of true crime stories that have been studiously ignored by our intrepid TV writers. This case only bolsters that suspicion. The media seem largely indifferent to it, even though the victim is black AND Native American and is kind of famous within academic circles. If nothing else, it's the man bites dog story of the year--Asian attacks black woman, tortures her for 4 hours, possibly blinds her with garden shears (I haven't been able to confirm that last detail--yet. But there's talk...)

    After 18 months of black-on-Asian violence, score one for the Asians! But how can they pin this on Trump? There's the rub.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  89. @HammerJack

    It is the oldest of the Seven Sisters and is in the lesbian heavy Hampshires of Western Massachusetts. But lesbians are out of fashion. Some of them are so evil as to assert that fetishists in frocks are not real women.
     
    The real injustice is that Florence King is no longer around to share her opinions on this topic. She could (and would) be withering, and in the most civilized fashion imaginable.

    On second thought, perhaps it's better that she not have to deal with our terminally benighted era.

    https://fredericksburg.com/news/local/fredericksburg/fredericksburg-author-florence-king-dead-at/article_434a042a-b665-11e5-a02e-0f90b2f4ca34.html

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Servant of Gla'aki, @Charles Pewitt, @Wade Hampton

    The real injustice is that Florence King is no longer around to share her opinions on this topic. She could (and would) be withering, and in the most civilized fashion imaginable.

    I say:

    I am proud to share Virginia Company English blood with Miss Florence King. My ancestor Thomas Prewitt came to the colony of Virginia in 1635 and he was born in Salisbury, England. Thomas Hardy and Florence King were great writers and Hardy was proud of his Norman ancestry and Florence King was proud to be English, but I don’t know if she had any Anglo-Norman ancestry.

    Florence King was the best part of that long ago era National Review for me. King was a great writer and I loved Florence King’s book reviews. Florence King used to go after writers whose work was awkward or just bad writing. I like the fact that Florence King the professional writer was so practiced in her craft of writing that she could take these other professional writers to task for their work.

    I read a lot of Florence King’s books and I enjoyed all of them — especially her crisp writing. Florence King was a writer who didn’t screw around with nonsense.

    I didn’t like the dismissive tone of Florence King’s writing when she was talking about the Buchanans — especially Bay Buchanan, but Florence King might have been writing as a Virginian looking askance at the Mississippi Buchanans. Florence King’s crack about the Buchanan’s — Pat and Bay — causing a brou without the haha during their campaigns was too much.

    Florence King was proud of her Virginia ancestry and her grandmother kept her proud.

    Florence King also might have wrote that she belonged to the class that dare not speak its name: Lower Middle Class. I’m sure it was her, but not completely sure.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Charles Pewitt

    "but Florence King might have been writing as a Virginian looking askance at the Mississippi Buchanans."

    In his autobiography, Right from the Beginning, Pat Buchanan mentions his ancestry, and no family from Mississippi was recounted. Southern family lines, yes. But prominent family trees from MI, no.

    There was however, a family line that has roots in Western PA, which is as from away from MI as possible. As Buchanan is Irish, and German-Dutch, it doesn't make much sense that he would have Deep Southern roots as Germans, Dutch and Irish (not Scots-Irish, but Shamrock Irish) didn't tend to settle there.

    Perhaps Miss King was aggravated by Bay, a woman vs woman petty jealousy thing, or rather a petty classist kind of thing. Bay's time in the political spotlight, at least in front of the camera, vanished almost as soon as it began.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Charles Pewitt


    I like the fact that Florence King the professional writer was so practiced in her craft of writing that she could take these other professional writers to task for their work.

     

    Whereas politely pointing out a misspelling or grammatical faux pas here will get your head handed to you as a "prescriptivist"-- or "prescriptionist", depending on which Corvine sockpuppet is sicced on you.

    Florence King also might have wrote...

     

    Uhhh... Miss King is rolling in her grave.

    ...the class that dare not speak its name: Lower Middle Class.

     

    She used the terms "high WASP" and "low WASP". My father was a low WASP of the Great Lakes variety. Little white steeples in little white villages.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Polistra

  90. “while telling the victim she had loved her for years and she should have known that.”

    And this attack proves it. In sickness and in health, etc…

    “Hachiyanagi’s attempted third-party defense in court crumbled once Savoy found the bloodied surgical gloves from the attack hidden in a pair of shorts months after the attack.”

    If the gloves fit, then Sayonara to Hachiyanagi.

    “Has anybody ever figured out whether the stereotype of lesbians being highly prone to domestic violence is really true? Not all stereotypes are true.”

    All stereotypes that persist for lengthy periods of time, contain elements of truth that can be fairly easily demonstrable. Otherwise the stereotypes don’t persist. The half moon equals crazy acts was based largely on superstitions from a more primitive time, rather than based in factual evidence.

    For example, Steve makes mention quite often that blacks are very good at playing in the NFL. But not all blacks in the US are excellent football players. It’s a stereotype, yet it contains facts that are easily demonstrable via the NFL combines, and actual on field playing. He’s also made mention that US blacks are quite good at sprinting. Does that mean that every single US black between the ages of 18-29 are excellent sprinters? Of course not. It’s a stereotype that’s been demonstrated to have a basis in facts which are based on the available evidence.

    The the old joke: “Well, it’s Sunday and you know what that means. The blacks are in jail, the whites are in church, and the Mexicans can’t get their cars started.”–the joke, largely based in stereotypical attitudes of diverse groups, tends to have a basis in facts, that’s why it’s still somewhat funny and still persists. Unlike the full moon and craziness. (Ironically, one could switch around certain aspects for whites. Instead of being in church, perhaps they’re out fishing or hunting or attending a rally. But the blacks, unfortunately, would still be in the pen and the joke still remains relevant.)

    Wonder if the Japanese lesbian attacked under a full moon? Or maybe the full moon was on a more personal level, namely, it was that time of month for her. And those cramps can kill like the dickens!

  91. If True Blood TV show creator and writer Alan Ball wasn’t familiar with Florence King it would be something else indeed.

    Thank you Mr Ball for the small Confederate Battle flag in your show after all the anti-Southern crud that’s gone on in the mass media and the country in general. General Lee car with the Scottish diagonal cross on it’s roof was all over the TV when I was a kid but the JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire started attacking the Confederate Battle flag shortly after.

    Alan Ball and Florence King as writers of the Southern lower middle class!

    Florence King on the class that dare not speak its name: LOWER MIDDLE CLASS

    Florence King from 2012:

    What happened, you ask, to the lower middle class? We don’t have one for the simple reason that Americans never call themselves that. The sole partial exception is the South, apart and eccentric as always, where lower-middle-class goes by the euphemisms ‘shabby genteel’ and ‘too poor to paint but too proud to whitewash’. This is the state of mind that allows Southerners to punch two holes in a can of Carnation evaporated milk and call it coffee cream.

    Our undefined middle class is the key to what has happened to our economy. It is by definition the striving class, and when just about everyone insists on placing himself in it, you end up with a nation of unrealistic strivers bent on what C. Wright Mills called ‘affluence without purpose’.

    Proving one’s middle-class status also required credit cards, so these became easily available, but the real middle-class nirvana was the 30-year mortgage with payments fully deductible on the mortgage holder’s federal income tax. These deductions came to billions of dollars every year, so knowing the government as we do, we have to wonder why it would be so eager to divest itself of so much moolah.

    We don’t have to wonder long. Try the protagonist of Sinclair Lewis’s 1921 novel Babbitt: ‘When folks own their homes, they ain’t starting labour troubles, and they’re raising kids instead of raising hell.’

    Or the builder of America’s first post-second world war suburb, William J. Levitt: ‘No man who owns his own house and lot can be a Communist. He has too much to do.’

    He won’t give the government any kind of trouble, communist or otherwise, because he has lobotomised himself with his own hoe. Being a ‘homeowner’ transforms him from a thinking reed into a tinkering, puttering, dull, small-minded bore, and that’s just the kind of citizen a desperate government wants. Someone so busy-busy that he couldn’t possibly start a revolution even if he wanted to. The sacred American home­owner will never take to the streets and mount the barricades because he has to stay home all day waiting for the Johnny-Be-Quik men to come and unclog the toilet.

    We have used 30-year mortgages as a safety valve against civil insurrection to create a bogus squirearchy with ‘something to lose’ so they will live in dread of losing it. This is peace through distraction and debt and it mounted to a fever pitch in the decade or so before the economic collapse of 2009. Americans’ definition of middle class made us sitting ducks for the own-your-own-home push. People completely unqualified to take on a mortgage got them anyway, bolstered by hostile attitudes directed against people who live in flats. There were a lot of sneering references to ‘a drawerful of rent receipts’ as if it were a drawerful of snakes. Every application, no matter how unrelated to one’s living arrangements, contained blocks marked ‘Rent’ or ‘Own’ that had to be checked. Some TV shrink even came up with a new disorder called ‘rental addiction’. I’m happy to report that I have it. And Carnation evaporated milk makes delicious coffee cream.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/stuck-in-the-middle

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Charles Pewitt


    This is the state of mind that allows Southerners to punch two holes in a can of Carnation evaporated milk and call it coffee cream.
     
    The Germans do the same thing. But when they do it, it's sophisticated and "European".
    , @Stick
    @Charles Pewitt

    My father always used Carnation evaporated milk in his coffee. I use Half and Half. We are from NC and VA, respectively.

    Replies: @Jiminy, @Bill P

  92. Merely anecdotal, but still….

    I’ve known a lot of lesbians (even converted a few back to the home team) and in my rather truncated experience, I never saw any violent ones, mostly peaceful, rather thoughtful ones.

    For a while I actually lived in a lesbian commune, as the only straight man present (there were a handful of gay men, but almost all lesbians). The funny thing was, the girls, who were mostly quite attractive, wanted to kinda-sorta act like men but not really (I got the feeling they didn’t actually know much about what men are like), so a lot of them walked around casually topless a lot of the time. Didn’t bother me, I had my own personal strip club, but it did bother my girlfriend when she came over to visit.

    GF: Honey, why don’t we go back to my place for the night?
    ME: Nah, I think we should just hang out here.

    My suspicion (but it’s only that) is that the violence issues are more common among unattractive butch lesbians, and less among hot lipstick lesbians.

    But I never saw any violence or even hostility, not even to me. A lot of them were actually rather thoughtfully curious about my bizarre non-woke views and why I held them, a little like they were studying a space alien, or a rare gorilla.

    • Replies: @Shel100
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    I suppose the butch lesbians have higher testosterone levels.

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    But I never saw any violence or even hostility, not even to me.
     
    I actually worked for a rotund, mannish lesbian at one of my contract IT sites in undergrad.

    She was into IT, video games, and home improvement.

    It was pretty much like working with another dude, no big deal.

    The soy'd up frat guy (yes, we had these in the late '90s) was far prissier than she was.
  93. Haven’t heard many stories about lesbians, but cops tend to regard gay male domestic violence as some of the most horrific crimes they see that don’t involve kids. The stories usually involve sexual multination and disfigurement.

  94. Travel agency KAYAK fearlessly portrays lesbian domestic violence, in their newest ad:

    • LOL: El Dato
  95. Domestic violence among lesbians is of course, like anything negative associated with anything QUILTBAG (or as Dave Chapelle likes to put it, the alphabet people), not to be spoken of. Hence the victims are twice victimized, since they’re not the victims of violence, but because that kind of violence cannot be acknowledged, it’s swept under the rug. Without acknowledgement there can be no remediation and so it keeps on happening (I think that’s where it ends up being talked about by ER workers, etc.).

    Why does it happen in the first place? As someone who used to work in a field that had a disproportionate amount of butch-y (their word, not mine) lesbians, they can generally be divided into those who have worked through their “daddy issues” and those that have not. The ones that have are a lot of fun to hang out with. In many ways they want to be “one of the guys”, they just want nothing to do with the “D” (including to have one). Some of the ones that haven’t are probably the problem in this area (domestic abuse).

  96. Like female teachers that have sex with their underage students, I always need to know how attractive lesbian perps are before I pass judgement on them.

    After a quick review…Guilty!

  97. @War for Blair Mountain
    When I watch Next Generation Star Trek at night..a drug company commercial is broadcast during the show…I think for a diabetes med…..Two lesbians on a bucolic fall drive to go pumpkin picking. One of the lesbians is white…the other a smiling fat CHINESE Lesbian. The Chinese Dear Leader in Mainland Han Nation would never tolerate this fucking sewage….

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Han nation > Ham nation

  98. @Peter Lund
    @Technite78

    Different woman, I think. The murderess is named Wu and this one's tag says ZHANG.

    Replies: @Technite78, @Bardon Kaldian

    Yeah, this is Wu

    and this is Liang

    By the way, there are tons of Yvonne Wus…

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Seeing the perp's and victim's physiognomy, the following chain of events immediately suggests itself:

    Young Jenny Li (23 years old) began to tire of—and perhaps even to cower a bit before—the icy gaze and almost mechanical authority of her 8-years-older "partner" Yvonne Wu, whom she had been dating ever since she was old enough to go to bars, ... so she broke it up, ... and found solace in the warm, fleshy embrace under the sunny smile and wide nostrils of her more tropical-Asian peer Jamie Liang (24 years old). True to her cool, calculated demeanor and icy northern soul, Yvonne ("high performer ... rated as 'exceeding expectations' in her recent evaluations") Wu bided her time waiting for the moment to "discuss her feelings" ... through a 9mm channel.

    I may not have Steve's "loose neuron" talent, but maybe we'll eventually learn the definitive story of Li and Wu.

  99. @notsaying
    @International Jew

    I wondered why you would say this so I looked this up. Now I really wonder:

    "Rie Hachiyanagi, 50, a former art professor at Mount Holyoke College, pleaded guilty in Greenfield District Court to charges of three counts of armed assault with intent to
    murder a person over 60, three counts of assault and battery with a dangerous weapon on a person over 60, and one count each of home invasion, mayhem and entering in the nighttime with intent to commit a felony, according to the Northwestern District Attorney’s Office."

    https://whdh.com/news/ex-mass-college-professor-pleads-guilty-to-subjecting-colleague-to-4-hour-torture-session-on-christmas-eve-involving-rock-fire-poker-garden-shears/

    Replies: @Polistra

    Over 60 is now a protected class? Oh I can hardly wait.

    • Agree: Gabe Ruth
  100. Maybe it’s a simple story of “some people like being slapped around.” Sure, some would draw a bright red line between “domestic violence” and “consensual S&M” where you have a “contract” and everything. But acting out the inclination through the latter method is a phenomenon specific to WEIRD society, maybe 30% of NWEuro derived peoples, less of others. Proles just don’t operate that way.

    • Replies: @The Plutonium Kid
    @Alexander Turok

    I don't think it's quite as simple as that. Some people aren't fully conscious of their own masochistic tendencies, and will unknowingly feed their sick need by provoking their significant others into violence. Sometimes victims provoke their SO's to violence because they enjoy a feeling of moral superiority when their SO's lose control and slug them. The victim knows that their SO's guilt and shame will make them easier to dominate* (although this perhaps doesn't technically fit the clinical definition of masochism). Sometimes both victim and victimizer enjoy the adrenaline rush and the state of heightened awareness. And in some cultures domestic violence is just an accepted pracice.

    *Reference: Every joke about Jewish mothers you ever heard, e.g. Q: How many Jewish mothers does it take to change a light bulb? A: Just one. "You don't need to change the light bulb for me, you can go out with your friends and have fun. I'll be all right, I'll just sit here alone in the dark.")

  101. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Nicholas Stix

    https://twitter.com/nypdrecruit/status/1385209948964073475

    Replies: @Technite78, @Dan Hayes, @Anonymous, @The Wild Geese Howard, @El Dato

    I can’t deny it, kinda hot.

    Only Admiral Cain – the 2004 female sociopathic one (Michelle Forbes), not the debonair Goering-style guy (Lloyd Bridges) from the original series (back from when bridge bunnies were bridge bunnies … and how!) – comes close.

  102. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Triteleia Laxa


    Clearly many women feel safe to hit their much stronger male partners.
     
    Well, in way too many cases it's just an incitement to wild sex ....

    Replies: @Farenheit

    Clearly many women feel safe to hit their much stronger male partners.

    Well, in way too many cases it’s just an incitement to wild sex …

    Here in Northern California, that’s referred to as “Mexican foreplay”

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian, JMcG
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Farenheit

    There is some primeval wisdom in the Mexican culture ....



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzlqmQvZ0J4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3FyL_x-uv4

  103. @New Dealer
    Google Scholar is your friend. Search “female same sex domestic violence”

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0092623X.2014.958792
    2015, "Same-Sex Domestic Violence: Prevalence, Unique Aspects, and Clinical Implications"

    SSDV = Same-Sex Domestic Violence, OSDV = Opposite-Sex


    Current prevalence rates of SSDV are considered similar to slightly higher than OSDV rates, with the exception of a secondary data analysis indicating SSDV rates as double that of OSDV (Messinger, 2011).
     
    Also

    In the female SSDV literature, a common theme is the contributory effect of lesbian fusion on violence. Waldner-Haugrud, Gratch, and Magruder (1997) defined lesbian fusion as “the tendency for lesbian couples to withdraw from the community, and become socially isolated and fused within the relationship unit” (p.180). Higher likelihood of physical aggression has been associated with participants reporting higher levels of fusion to the relationship in combination with a partner being identified as controlling (Miller, Greene, Causby, White, & Lockhart, 2001)
     
    Lesbian fusion! Live and learn.


    Similar entries at Scholar in earlier years. Also search on "lesbian domestic violence."

    Lots of ideological angst in this literature, because domestic violence is supposed to be caused by “patriarchy.” Usual epicycle dodges: SSDV is really caused by patriarchy, heteronormativity, etc.

    As for opposite-sex, there tends to be more physical violence by men against women (probably having to do with average relative strength?). One ambitious study outside the U.S. asked the same respondents about physical violence and for the first time whether they “feared” their spouse. Considerably more males than females engaged in physical violence, but fear of spouse was equal for men and women, IIRC, about 15% each.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix, @Harry Baldwin, @J1234

    This thread is interesting and challenges my assumptions about these kind of relationships. My intuition had told me that most lesbians were lesbians because of some innate or acquired aversion to domestic violence or dominance, but that probably isn’t the case. As you say, live and learn.

    I will say that non-lethal non-injurious lesbian domestic violence probably has some erotic appeal for many straight males. Not for me, personally, but I was thinking some of you guys.

  104. @Charles Pewitt
    If True Blood TV show creator and writer Alan Ball wasn't familiar with Florence King it would be something else indeed.

    Thank you Mr Ball for the small Confederate Battle flag in your show after all the anti-Southern crud that's gone on in the mass media and the country in general. General Lee car with the Scottish diagonal cross on it's roof was all over the TV when I was a kid but the JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire started attacking the Confederate Battle flag shortly after.

    Alan Ball and Florence King as writers of the Southern lower middle class!

    Florence King on the class that dare not speak its name: LOWER MIDDLE CLASS

    Florence King from 2012:

    What happened, you ask, to the lower middle class? We don’t have one for the simple reason that Americans never call themselves that. The sole partial exception is the South, apart and eccentric as always, where lower-middle-class goes by the euphemisms ‘shabby genteel’ and ‘too poor to paint but too proud to whitewash’. This is the state of mind that allows Southerners to punch two holes in a can of Carnation evaporated milk and call it coffee cream.

    Our undefined middle class is the key to what has happened to our economy. It is by definition the striving class, and when just about everyone insists on placing himself in it, you end up with a nation of unrealistic strivers bent on what C. Wright Mills called ‘affluence without purpose’.

    Proving one’s middle-class status also required credit cards, so these became easily available, but the real middle-class nirvana was the 30-year mortgage with payments fully deductible on the mortgage holder’s federal income tax. These deductions came to billions of dollars every year, so knowing the government as we do, we have to wonder why it would be so eager to divest itself of so much moolah.

    We don’t have to wonder long. Try the protagonist of Sinclair Lewis’s 1921 novel Babbitt: ‘When folks own their homes, they ain’t starting labour troubles, and they’re raising kids instead of raising hell.’

    Or the builder of America’s first post-second world war suburb, William J. Levitt: ‘No man who owns his own house and lot can be a Communist. He has too much to do.’

    He won’t give the government any kind of trouble, communist or otherwise, because he has lobotomised himself with his own hoe. Being a ‘homeowner’ transforms him from a thinking reed into a tinkering, puttering, dull, small-minded bore, and that’s just the kind of citizen a desperate government wants. Someone so busy-busy that he couldn’t possibly start a revolution even if he wanted to. The sacred American home­owner will never take to the streets and mount the barricades because he has to stay home all day waiting for the Johnny-Be-Quik men to come and unclog the toilet.

    We have used 30-year mortgages as a safety valve against civil insurrection to create a bogus squirearchy with ‘something to lose’ so they will live in dread of losing it. This is peace through distraction and debt and it mounted to a fever pitch in the decade or so before the economic collapse of 2009. Americans’ definition of middle class made us sitting ducks for the own-your-own-home push. People completely unqualified to take on a mortgage got them anyway, bolstered by hostile attitudes directed against people who live in flats. There were a lot of sneering references to ‘a drawerful of rent receipts’ as if it were a drawerful of snakes. Every application, no matter how unrelated to one’s living arrangements, contained blocks marked ‘Rent’ or ‘Own’ that had to be checked. Some TV shrink even came up with a new disorder called ‘rental addiction’. I’m happy to report that I have it. And Carnation evaporated milk makes delicious coffee cream.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/stuck-in-the-middle

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Stick

    This is the state of mind that allows Southerners to punch two holes in a can of Carnation evaporated milk and call it coffee cream.

    The Germans do the same thing. But when they do it, it’s sophisticated and “European”.

  105. @Gaius Gracchus
    I heard from ER nurses years ago about the full moon effect. They all told me there are more car accidents, births, physical assaults, and other incidents on the full moon. When I meet an ER nurse, I always ask about it. Each one confirms that it is their experience.

    On Lesbian domestic violence, a friend who is a criminal defense attorney has told me about the large number of Lesbian (and gay) cases he has seen.

    Replies: @murse, @Almost Missouri, @S. Anonyia

    I’m an ER nurse and it’s mostly bullshit, just something else for the night shift to bitch about

    • Thanks: jim don bob
  106. @Mr. Anon
    Isn't diversity grand? Something tells me that New York City would be better off with a bunch of rough, politically-incorrect Irish cops who might say problematic things but were brave and loyal, than leaving policing to Chinese lesbians.

    It's funny when you think about the police corruption portrayed in Serpico. All those cops were taking bribes from numbers rackets to look the other way. Of course, we still have numbers rackets. Now they're called Lotteries, and they're run by the state governments. Things are much better now.

    Replies: @slumber_j, @Chicken Fried Dinosaur, @AceDeuce

    A Chinese girl is less likely than an Irish to grow into a lesbian. Lots of White men seem to have a revealed preference for Chinese girls, too. They’re might be materialistic and uncreative but “less likely to divorce me and take my kids” tends to trump that.

  107. @Jim Christian
    Vermont lesbians in the nineties would get legally married in Vermont, legally adapt children (one lesbian was maternal, the other paternal). When the bed death set in, the maternal lesbian, instead of divorcing with visitation, would come to Virginia, which recognized nothing but the maternal adoption papers since legal lesbian marriage was not the law in Virginia. The maternal lesbian would then file for restraining orders against the paternal lesbian as if she was a stalker. The spurned paternal lesbian would show up in Virginia with no marital/parental rights but with easy access to guns and the WashPost article detailing the slaughter,would end with, "the shooter then turned the gun on herself". It happened a lot, more than they reported. Where there was a new boyfriend or girlfriend, they got shot too. Happens everywhere, ALL the time. Lesbians spurned are vicious. Just as bad as a male>female tranny who is told he can't carry a baby. Sick fucking people, every one of them.

    Replies: @Bragadocious

    Interesting…I’m thinking there’s a whole subgenre of true crime stories that have been studiously ignored by our intrepid TV writers. This case only bolsters that suspicion. The media seem largely indifferent to it, even though the victim is black AND Native American and is kind of famous within academic circles. If nothing else, it’s the man bites dog story of the year–Asian attacks black woman, tortures her for 4 hours, possibly blinds her with garden shears (I haven’t been able to confirm that last detail–yet. But there’s talk…)

    After 18 months of black-on-Asian violence, score one for the Asians! But how can they pin this on Trump? There’s the rub.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Bragadocious


    I’m thinking there’s a whole subgenre of true crime stories that have been studiously ignored by our intrepid TV writers.
     
    Don't worry. As we speak, the script of a new episode of Law & Order: SVU is being "ripped from this headline"!

    (Only to protect the guilty, Yvonne Wu's name is being changed to Haven Monahan.)
  108. @Mr. Anon
    @Jonathan Mason


    A bit like anti-vaxxers who cover up their fear of being penetrated with a needle with all kinds of elaborate theories about why vaccines are a bad thing and part of the patriarchy.
     
    Nobody who is anti-vax is afraid of needles, you simpering idiot. Those same people all get injections for other things. What they're afraid of is becoming like you - a slavish drone who rolls over and accepts anything his masters have in store for him, you pompous fool.

    Replies: @Chicken Fried Dinosaur, @Jonathan Mason

    What, you trust the medical establishment when it recommends injections in other contexts, but not this one? So you’re like, 75% obedient to your “masters,” much better than those 100% obedient peasants.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Chicken Fried Dinosaur


    What, you trust the medical establishment when it recommends injections in other contexts, but not this one? So you’re like, 75% obedient to your “masters,” much better than those 100% obedient peasants.
     
    Sometimes. Vitamins, anti-histamines, anti-biotics, and steroids all seem to work pretty well at what they are supposed to do. Propofol does actually knock you out prior to surgery (whether all surgeries need general anesthesia is another matter). But most importantly, all those things are voluntary. There is no mandate stipulating that you will get a shot of B-12 or vancomycin or else you will be fired. That's the difference, nitwit.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

  109. @Alexander Turok
    Maybe it's a simple story of "some people like being slapped around." Sure, some would draw a bright red line between "domestic violence" and "consensual S&M" where you have a "contract" and everything. But acting out the inclination through the latter method is a phenomenon specific to WEIRD society, maybe 30% of NWEuro derived peoples, less of others. Proles just don't operate that way.

    Replies: @The Plutonium Kid

    I don’t think it’s quite as simple as that. Some people aren’t fully conscious of their own masochistic tendencies, and will unknowingly feed their sick need by provoking their significant others into violence. Sometimes victims provoke their SO’s to violence because they enjoy a feeling of moral superiority when their SO’s lose control and slug them. The victim knows that their SO’s guilt and shame will make them easier to dominate* (although this perhaps doesn’t technically fit the clinical definition of masochism). Sometimes both victim and victimizer enjoy the adrenaline rush and the state of heightened awareness. And in some cultures domestic violence is just an accepted pracice.

    *Reference: Every joke about Jewish mothers you ever heard, e.g. Q: How many Jewish mothers does it take to change a light bulb? A: Just one. “You don’t need to change the light bulb for me, you can go out with your friends and have fun. I’ll be all right, I’ll just sit here alone in the dark.”)

  110. After accusing and abusing men for domestic violence, for the past so many decades, it is ironic that lesbian “couples” are also equally violent. So may I conclude the violence arises not from the gender of the husband but by the roles played?

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @Old Brown Fool

    Is the women’s World Cup like the Super Bowl for lesbian domestic violence?

  111. lesbians love baseball.

    sad.

  112. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Merely anecdotal, but still....

    I've known a lot of lesbians (even converted a few back to the home team) and in my rather truncated experience, I never saw any violent ones, mostly peaceful, rather thoughtful ones.

    For a while I actually lived in a lesbian commune, as the only straight man present (there were a handful of gay men, but almost all lesbians). The funny thing was, the girls, who were mostly quite attractive, wanted to kinda-sorta act like men but not really (I got the feeling they didn't actually know much about what men are like), so a lot of them walked around casually topless a lot of the time. Didn't bother me, I had my own personal strip club, but it did bother my girlfriend when she came over to visit.

    GF: Honey, why don't we go back to my place for the night?
    ME: Nah, I think we should just hang out here.

    My suspicion (but it's only that) is that the violence issues are more common among unattractive butch lesbians, and less among hot lipstick lesbians.

    But I never saw any violence or even hostility, not even to me. A lot of them were actually rather thoughtfully curious about my bizarre non-woke views and why I held them, a little like they were studying a space alien, or a rare gorilla.

    Replies: @Shel100, @The Wild Geese Howard

    I suppose the butch lesbians have higher testosterone levels.

  113. @Catdompanj
    @Reg Cæsar

    Just curious. How on earth did you stumble onto this site, let alone this article Reg?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Reg Cæsar

    From that site

    https://www.pride.com/celebrities/2021/9/28/grimes-wants-start-lesbian-space-commune-after-elon-musk-split

    “Grimes Wants to Start Lesbian Space Commune After Elon Musk Split”

  114. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Merely anecdotal, but still....

    I've known a lot of lesbians (even converted a few back to the home team) and in my rather truncated experience, I never saw any violent ones, mostly peaceful, rather thoughtful ones.

    For a while I actually lived in a lesbian commune, as the only straight man present (there were a handful of gay men, but almost all lesbians). The funny thing was, the girls, who were mostly quite attractive, wanted to kinda-sorta act like men but not really (I got the feeling they didn't actually know much about what men are like), so a lot of them walked around casually topless a lot of the time. Didn't bother me, I had my own personal strip club, but it did bother my girlfriend when she came over to visit.

    GF: Honey, why don't we go back to my place for the night?
    ME: Nah, I think we should just hang out here.

    My suspicion (but it's only that) is that the violence issues are more common among unattractive butch lesbians, and less among hot lipstick lesbians.

    But I never saw any violence or even hostility, not even to me. A lot of them were actually rather thoughtfully curious about my bizarre non-woke views and why I held them, a little like they were studying a space alien, or a rare gorilla.

    Replies: @Shel100, @The Wild Geese Howard

    But I never saw any violence or even hostility, not even to me.

    I actually worked for a rotund, mannish lesbian at one of my contract IT sites in undergrad.

    She was into IT, video games, and home improvement.

    It was pretty much like working with another dude, no big deal.

    The soy’d up frat guy (yes, we had these in the late ’90s) was far prissier than she was.

  115. @Charles Pewitt
    @HammerJack

    The real injustice is that Florence King is no longer around to share her opinions on this topic. She could (and would) be withering, and in the most civilized fashion imaginable.

    I say:

    I am proud to share Virginia Company English blood with Miss Florence King. My ancestor Thomas Prewitt came to the colony of Virginia in 1635 and he was born in Salisbury, England. Thomas Hardy and Florence King were great writers and Hardy was proud of his Norman ancestry and Florence King was proud to be English, but I don't know if she had any Anglo-Norman ancestry.

    Florence King was the best part of that long ago era National Review for me. King was a great writer and I loved Florence King’s book reviews. Florence King used to go after writers whose work was awkward or just bad writing. I like the fact that Florence King the professional writer was so practiced in her craft of writing that she could take these other professional writers to task for their work.

    I read a lot of Florence King’s books and I enjoyed all of them — especially her crisp writing. Florence King was a writer who didn’t screw around with nonsense.

    I didn’t like the dismissive tone of Florence King’s writing when she was talking about the Buchanans — especially Bay Buchanan, but Florence King might have been writing as a Virginian looking askance at the Mississippi Buchanans. Florence King’s crack about the Buchanan’s — Pat and Bay — causing a brou without the haha during their campaigns was too much.

    Florence King was proud of her Virginia ancestry and her grandmother kept her proud.

    Florence King also might have wrote that she belonged to the class that dare not speak its name: Lower Middle Class. I’m sure it was her, but not completely sure.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Reg Cæsar

    “but Florence King might have been writing as a Virginian looking askance at the Mississippi Buchanans.”

    In his autobiography, Right from the Beginning, Pat Buchanan mentions his ancestry, and no family from Mississippi was recounted. Southern family lines, yes. But prominent family trees from MI, no.

    There was however, a family line that has roots in Western PA, which is as from away from MI as possible. As Buchanan is Irish, and German-Dutch, it doesn’t make much sense that he would have Deep Southern roots as Germans, Dutch and Irish (not Scots-Irish, but Shamrock Irish) didn’t tend to settle there.

    Perhaps Miss King was aggravated by Bay, a woman vs woman petty jealousy thing, or rather a petty classist kind of thing. Bay’s time in the political spotlight, at least in front of the camera, vanished almost as soon as it began.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    I don’t know about Western PA family lines being as far from MS as possible. I’m from the Deep South and among my family lines who were actually American at the time of the revolution (maybe 1/3 of them), many lived in Pennsylvania until the 1830s when Indian land was opened for settlement in the South. Also, while mildly unusual there were “Shamrock” Irish and German speaking immigrants (many Swiss) throughout the South, especially around the coastal cities. I have ancestry from both groups, plus some other non-stereotypically Southern groups like Scandinavians and Scottish Catholics. Settlement patterns to the urbanized parts of the South weren’t that different than those of the Midwest or North, it’s just that the South had a higher proportion of rural areas compared to cities so the urban South kind of gets ignored in historical record.

  116. @anon
    @J.Ross

    Look at current Israel statistics. This was 45 days ago. Cases peaked, then rapidly declined.

    Replies: @HA

    “Cases peaked, then rapidly declined.”

    Yes, whether it was the booster shots, or the fact that the delta variant fizzles out quickly, if the experience of India and the UK is any guide, or else some combination of both those factors, Isreal is doing pretty well about now, and looking to do even better in the weeks ahead, and even though the infection rates got high, the death rate was lower than in the past . About 40% of the COVID deaths there a while ago were coming from the unvaccinated, even though they’re a small minority in Israel, so that tells you something.

    In other words, if this is supposed to be some argument against vaccination, whoever is trying to spin it that way needs to rethink it. Or, as you say, at least update it.

    • Agree: Alexander Turok
    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @HA

    "About 40% of the COVID deaths there a while ago were coming from the unvaccinated, even though they’re a small minority in Israel, so that tells you something."
    So 60% were vaccinated?

  117. @Obstinate Cymric
    @Obstinate Cymric

    As ever, some folk take it to extremes

    https://nypost.com/2021/04/22/chilling-video-shows-woman-gunned-down-on-nyc-street/


    The victim, identified as Nichelle Thomas, 51, was shot just before 1 p.m. at Fourth Avenue and St. Marks Place in Park Slope.

    Footage obtained by The Post shows Thomas approaching a bodega at the corner of St. Marks Place — apparently unaware her ex is about to launch an attack.

    As Thomas goes to open the door, 38-year-old Latisha Bell allegedly sprints up and pulls a gun. Bell then allegedly shoots Thomas point-blank in the back of the head and flees.

    The chilling nine-second video ends with the victim crumpling to the ground.

    She was rushed to a hospital, where she died, police said.

    The two women used to be in a relationship, police sources said. It wasn’t immediately clear when they broke up.
     

    Replies: @El Dato, @Reg Cæsar

    Footage obtained by The Post shows Thomas approaching a bodega at the corner of St. Marks Place — apparently unaware her ex is about to launch an attack.

    Random National Geographic Video.mpg

  118. @2BR
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Why doesn’t the faster swimming work in nature?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    It seems this is not resolved yet ….

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shettles_method

    Shettles method

    https://www.science.org/content/article/worth-waiting

    Worth Waiting For?

    https://www.science.org/content/article/changing-sperm-speed-can-influence-offspring-s-sex-mouse-study-suggests

    Changing sperm speed can influence offspring’s sex, mouse study suggests

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/sperm-sorting-chemical-method-mice-male-female-ivf-a9056941.html

    Scientists find way to distinguish male sperm from female, which may allow couples to choose IVF boy or girl

    • Thanks: 2BR
  119. @Farenheit
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Clearly many women feel safe to hit their much stronger male partners.
     
    Well, in way too many cases it’s just an incitement to wild sex …

    Here in Northern California, that's referred to as "Mexican foreplay"

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    There is some primeval wisdom in the Mexican culture ….

    [MORE]

  120. One apolitical old stereotype among cops and ER workers that has faded since the 1970s is that people go especially crazy during full moons. I haven’t heard that one in awhile. I recall somebody looked into it and it didn’t pan out, much to my disappointment.

    I’m still convinced there is some effect and I don’t care if there is no proper scientific evidence – my own experience backs it up. I could see the difference during the full moon: it’s not that people went into full werewolf mode, but the night shift at the hospital was definitely harder work during that time.

  121. @Obstinate Cymric
    @Obstinate Cymric

    As ever, some folk take it to extremes

    https://nypost.com/2021/04/22/chilling-video-shows-woman-gunned-down-on-nyc-street/


    The victim, identified as Nichelle Thomas, 51, was shot just before 1 p.m. at Fourth Avenue and St. Marks Place in Park Slope.

    Footage obtained by The Post shows Thomas approaching a bodega at the corner of St. Marks Place — apparently unaware her ex is about to launch an attack.

    As Thomas goes to open the door, 38-year-old Latisha Bell allegedly sprints up and pulls a gun. Bell then allegedly shoots Thomas point-blank in the back of the head and flees.

    The chilling nine-second video ends with the victim crumpling to the ground.

    She was rushed to a hospital, where she died, police said.

    The two women used to be in a relationship, police sources said. It wasn’t immediately clear when they broke up.
     

    Replies: @El Dato, @Reg Cæsar

    The victim, identified as Nichelle Thomas

    Nichelle is in a hoodie. Is she a megress?

  122. @Catdompanj
    @Reg Cæsar

    Just curious. How on earth did you stumble onto this site, let alone this article Reg?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Reg Cæsar

    Just curious. How on earth did you stumble onto this site, let alone this article Reg?

    Stumble? I’ve been reading Steve since his NRODT days, almost 30 years ago. I did a search for “lesbian bed death”, a phenomenon I learned of from Mrs C, who used to work in the lower ranks of publishing, a very female– and talkative– environment. This is what popped up.

    (From the search, not her environment. She works from home now.)

  123. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Peter Lund

    Yeah, this is Wu

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/10/14/14/49169023-10090227-image-a-16_1634217882664.jpg

    and this is Liang

    https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/10/love-triangle-506-1.jpg?quality=90&strip=all


    By the way, there are tons of Yvonne Wus...

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Seeing the perp’s and victim’s physiognomy, the following chain of events immediately suggests itself:

    Young Jenny Li (23 years old) began to tire of—and perhaps even to cower a bit before—the icy gaze and almost mechanical authority of her 8-years-older “partner” Yvonne Wu, whom she had been dating ever since she was old enough to go to bars, … so she broke it up, … and found solace in the warm, fleshy embrace under the sunny smile and wide nostrils of her more tropical-Asian peer Jamie Liang (24 years old). True to her cool, calculated demeanor and icy northern soul, Yvonne (“high performer … rated as ‘exceeding expectations’ in her recent evaluations“) Wu bided her time waiting for the moment to “discuss her feelings” … through a 9mm channel.

    I may not have Steve’s “loose neuron” talent, but maybe we’ll eventually learn the definitive story of Li and Wu.

  124. @Expletive Deleted
    @Almost Missouri

    Anyone gripping hammers like those cheeky chappies would be laughed off site, or more likely hazed mercilessly. Guaranteed half-crown marks.
    It's the first thing you learn as an apprentice, along with the saw handhold, sawing square, and splitting the line.
    The lower, balder one is holding it exactly like a gurly would. Is it, in fact an XX-chromy? Or a rather weedy boy?
    It's almost as though they don't have a clue what they're doing, and couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.

    Replies: @Bill P, @El Dato

    Maybe he didn’t know much about using a hammer, but he sure knew his way around a 9mm pistol.

  125. @Percival

    old stereotype among cops and ER workers that has faded since the 1970s is that people go especially crazy during full moons.
     
    Well, the phenomenon of lunacy/lunatics is a little more than a stereotype. As the existence of those words suggests, together with folkloric associations between werewolves and the full moon, the moon's effects on behaviour are not a new discovery.

    The stars were so significant to our ancestors, but we hardly notice them at all today. The ubiquity of artificial light prevents us from paying attention to what surrounds us, not to mention the light pollution that hides the stars from view in so many areas of human habitation. Similarly, with the moon, whatever effect variations in illumination may have had for our ancestors before the advent of electricity, these have become trivial to us. Still, it stands to reason changes in illumination, especially during sleep can cause various kinds of disruptions.

    One thing that has changed since the 1970s is the use of computers and time spent staring at screens emitting lots of blue light.

    I suppose technically it's possible that the lunar effect is modulated by the proximity of the moon, and not its phase. Since the lunar phase is not in sync with the moon's orbit around the Earth, this means there are full moons at their apogee (furthest from Earth) and other full moons at their perigee (closest to Earth). This is probably not significant, however.

    Replies: @Kratoklastes

    The other thing to consider is the dramatic decline in the proportion of people who have a good-faith belief in supernatural influences on human behaviour.

    It would not surprise me to find that lunatics got loonie on a lunar cycle more in a society where a large proportion of people genuinely believed that nuttery flourished by the light of the silvery moon.

    Your observation about the (relatively recent) increase in urban ambient light has obvious merit. Anyone who spends significant time in places where there is no artificial lighting as far as the horizon, quickly becomes aware of how much easier it is to do nighttime shenanigans when the moon is full.

    During a recent ‘half lap’ of Australia, we planned our stops to maximise the number of new and full moons where we had literally zero ‘light pollution’. I’ve never been one for stargazing, but a clear night sky during a new moon is quite amazing – but the downside is that one can’t see shit on the ground.

    That’s why it used to make sense for military operations to commence on a new moon.

    Lunatics misbehaving during full moons is the same as the man looking for his dropped keys under the nearest streetlight – augmented (in the past) by people who genuinely believed that the full moon made them more crazy.

    • Agree: Mr Mox
  126. @Expletive Deleted
    @Almost Missouri

    Anyone gripping hammers like those cheeky chappies would be laughed off site, or more likely hazed mercilessly. Guaranteed half-crown marks.
    It's the first thing you learn as an apprentice, along with the saw handhold, sawing square, and splitting the line.
    The lower, balder one is holding it exactly like a gurly would. Is it, in fact an XX-chromy? Or a rather weedy boy?
    It's almost as though they don't have a clue what they're doing, and couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.

    Replies: @Bill P, @El Dato

    Look, they are not intending to hammer in nails. One is movie promotional material apparently of a guy about to give someone a terrific headache and the other imitates movie promotional material on MySpace or whatever was hot back then.

    You might as well complain about hacking exploits and those magic computer graphics that are actually meant to explain plot points in Hollywood fare.

  127. @Brutusale
    @Almost Missouri


    The “Berkshires” are further west, more rugged, and therefore less blessed with crazy lesbians and toxic liberal arts colleges. Depending on whom you ask, “The Berkshires” may or may not be contiguous with Berkshire County.
     
    Berkshire county's Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts is essentially an old normal school. Teachers chasing degrees are about as moonbatty as it gets. The city it's located in, North Adams, is also home to the Massachusetts Museum of Contemporary Art. Wandering through the installations there is like attending a kindergarten art show.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    I’ve been to MassMoCA a few times. Even though I have to choke back my contempt for most of the “art”, it can still make for a diverting day out. The old mill building that houses it is impressive and redolent of a bygone New England era. I often find myself looking more at the building and its old fixtures and signage than at the exhibits, of which maybe a one in ten or one in a hundred merit attention.

    From a business point of view, the fundraisers and directors can claim an achievement. Twenty years ago, MassMoCA looked like some misbegotten collision of leftover blue-collar socialism with quirky hippy-art idealism, in a barely heated, poorly lit wing of a barely renovated factory, apparently on a shoestring budget. Nowadays it’s a destination unto itself, with tour groups, school programs, and annual membership cadres. I might not admire it, but its material success can’t be denied.

    BTW, if you want to save a bundle on the overpriced entrance fees, and you are member of any local library, they usually have pairs of membership passes you can “check out” for the day. Lots of other Berkshires attractions are like this too, even much better places.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Almost Missouri

    Yeah, my local library finances my museum trips. I always have a couple passes in stock because you never know when you'll need an art appreciation fix at the MFA.

    I was with the girlfriend enjoy a break out in the Berkshires the first time I experienced MOCA. We decamped to another location an hour away for something a little less edgy and a little more satisfying.

    https://www.nrm.org/

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  128. @Bragadocious
    @Jim Christian

    Interesting...I'm thinking there's a whole subgenre of true crime stories that have been studiously ignored by our intrepid TV writers. This case only bolsters that suspicion. The media seem largely indifferent to it, even though the victim is black AND Native American and is kind of famous within academic circles. If nothing else, it's the man bites dog story of the year--Asian attacks black woman, tortures her for 4 hours, possibly blinds her with garden shears (I haven't been able to confirm that last detail--yet. But there's talk...)

    After 18 months of black-on-Asian violence, score one for the Asians! But how can they pin this on Trump? There's the rub.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    I’m thinking there’s a whole subgenre of true crime stories that have been studiously ignored by our intrepid TV writers.

    Don’t worry. As we speak, the script of a new episode of Law & Order: SVU is being “ripped from this headline”!

    (Only to protect the guilty, Yvonne Wu’s name is being changed to Haven Monahan.)

  129. @Triteleia Laxa

    Has anybody ever figured out whether the stereotype of lesbians being highly prone to domestic violence is really true?
     
    Anecdotally I am pretty sure it is.

    Ignoring the exceptional stories you have mentioned, it seems quite likely that female domestic violence is very high. Men hitting women is rightly demonised, but women hit men all of the time and no one publicly notices it, not even the men who get hit.

    Domestic situations can lead to very emotional conflicts for everyone involved, but extreme social pressure to reduce certain forms of behaviour can be effective, so men likely react with physical violence less than they would have, but women are not so affected by this. The men usually just outwardly shrug this off. Clearly many women feel safe to hit their much stronger male partners.

    If women are more likely to hit their partners, then lesbian couples are doubly more likely. Also, once one person hits the others then the chances of them getting hit back goes up a lot. Even where a woman hits a man. Lesbian couples I have met have often spoken of physical violence in their existing relationship, as if it is just a thing.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Bill Jones, @Ed Case

    Clearly many women feel safe to hit their much stronger male partners.

    Domestic Violence Orders are the only way to stop a violent woman.
    Sure, she’ll then leave and take the kids, but at least the violence has stopped.

    With lesbians, it’s the nature if the activity that causes feelings of rage that are then acted out.
    Inserting a fist up a partners arse will eventually end in the Courts or a Mental Hospital.
    Bottom line:
    Lesbians are no different from poofters, they’re only interested in absolute humiliation of the partner.

    Cops say that 1 in 3 murders involve poofters who have been or are still partners, but i’ve never seen this angle covered in the media.

    • Replies: @Jiminy
    @Ed Case

    Women assaulting men. Tonight my wife was watching some story about the Gabby Petito case, who was reported to be terrorising her fiancé, and later found dead in her van in a park. I think a lot of female on male domestic violence goes unspoken, probably because the guy thinks that he’s going to be seen as soft. But as I said to my wife, assault is assault. And how come we have it on our screens here, but the tv stations won’t ever cover stories that show the black on white violence there in the US. It’s rarely mentioned. The truth is they don’t even know who killed the woman.

  130. @Bill Jones
    @J.Ross


    Sweden banned Israeli citizens, even if vaccinated from entering the country.
     
    Should be

    Sweden banned Israeli citizens from entering the country.
     
    The vaccination isn't. It is not, and never has been about conferring immunity from infection. It's claims are to reducing symptoms and greatly lessening the chances of hospitalization ( Once they get you hospitalized, you're a goner).
    The drug companies are in the business of managing diseases not curing them; where's the money in that?

    A blanket ban on Israeli's is something we can all get behind.

    Replies: @El Dato

    The drug companies are in the business of managing diseases not curing them; where’s the money in that?

    People are never happy. Remember when the prediction was “possibly no vaccine before early 2022”?

    Well, looks like we are at least in a situation where keeling over can be well prevented. Seeing that everyone will eventually come into contact with COVID and that IFR is 0.3%, that’s good. It will become endemic, alternative treatment will become more prevalent than senseless vaccinations and hopefully the stupid “kid vaccination” programs will cease, someone will politically ejected for failings and that will be that.

    Also, Russians aren’t getting their vaccination and possibly ivermectin treatments haven’t caught on (would be good to have stats on that) and this has consequences:

    19 months into pandemic, Russia’s daily official Covid-19 death toll surpasses 1,000 for first time since deadly virus emerged

    Take your vitamin D!

    Let’s go Brandon:

    [MORE]

    US Treasury deputy sec warns unvaxxed Americans that shortages will continue until EVERYONE is jabbed

    Wally Adeyemo, the Biden administration’s second-highest official in the Treasury Department, appeared to publicly blackmail the still-sizable portion of Americans who have not been vaccinated against Covid-19 during a Thursday ABC interview, seemingly blaming them for the ongoing shortages of consumer goods that have led many to mock the president as ‘Empty Shelves Joe’.

    Despite viral photos depicting thousands of cargo ships lined up at the Port of Los Angeles ready to unload their goods, Adeyemo claimed that the supply chain issues plaguing so many US retailers are an international issue and will only let up when a sufficient percentage of the country has been vaccinated.

    UK not allowed to export trash:

    ‘Failed’ former Health Secretary Matt Hancock loses UN Africa job just hours after celebrating the appointment online

    Former UK Health Secretary Matt Hancock won’t become the special envoy for a United Nations commission working on Africa’s recovery from Covid-19, after the UN suddenly decided not to take his appointment forward.

    The job of UN envoy for financial innovation and climate change for the Economic Commission for Africa (ECA) was seen as a chance for Hancock to revive his career after his scandalous resignation from the UK government this June.

    The 43-year-old was forced to quit his job as health secretary after being photographed kissing a female aide at his office in violation of the coronavirus social distancing rules.

  131. @Gaius Gracchus
    I heard from ER nurses years ago about the full moon effect. They all told me there are more car accidents, births, physical assaults, and other incidents on the full moon. When I meet an ER nurse, I always ask about it. Each one confirms that it is their experience.

    On Lesbian domestic violence, a friend who is a criminal defense attorney has told me about the large number of Lesbian (and gay) cases he has seen.

    Replies: @murse, @Almost Missouri, @S. Anonyia

    I knew an old veteran US Army officer who had married a German lady. He told me they were vacationing on a North Sea island when she was very pregnant. She went into labor and the officer called the sole doctor on the island to come quick, his wife was about to deliver their baby! But the doctor demurred. “I’ve worked on this island my entire life, and no baby has ever been born at ebb tide”, he said. The officer protested but the doctor was firm: he wouldn’t bother coming until the tide came in.

    This was in the immediate aftermath of WWII, when the occupying militaries had been known to kill local Germans “accidentally” without bearing any responsibility for it. So for the doctor to defy a US officer who was already overwrought at the impending birth of his first child, on this remote island, was to take his life into his hands. But the doctor stood firm, … and, as it turned out, so did the baby. A few hours later, the tide, the doctor, and the baby all arrived together.

    Now maybe I’ve misremembered a detail or two. It might have been a Baltic Sea island instead of a North Sea island. Or maybe it was high tide instead of ebb tide. But the main point remains: the experience of an intelligent, educated, and professional man was so dispositive that he was willing to bet his life that no baby would be born on the wrong side of the moon/tide cycle. That oughta count for something.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Almost Missouri

    The Baltic Sea is itself too small to have its own significant tides, and it has too narrow an opening to the North Sea to be influenced by the North Atlantic tides. The total tidal effect is only a few centimetres. Tidal waves from Kattegat through the Sound contribute a few centimetres of tide in the Southern Baltic.2 Jun 2010
    Like the Mediterranean there are no significant tides in the Baltic.

  132. @Elmer T. Jones
    This does not align with Japanese lesbian videos I have witnessed.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Stebbing Heuer

    LOL

  133. @Bardon Kaldian
    Read some of these links...



    https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/05/31/lesbian-couple-found-guilty-of-murdering-two-year-old-son/

    Brazilian mother and lesbian lover ‘tore off nine-year-old’s penis’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7146517/Brazilian-mother-27-lesbian-lover-28-tore-nine-year-old-sons-penis.html

    Baltimore Lesbian Couple Charged with Killing 4-Year-Old Son

    https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2019/08/04/baltimore-lesbian-couple-charged-with-killing-4-year-old-son-found-dead-in-dumpster/

    Lesbian Kills Daughter, Blames Bible Sermon After Partner Breaks Up With Her

    https://www.advocate.com/crime/2014/05/31/lesbian-kills-daughter-blames-bible-sermon-after-partner-breaks-her

    Details Revealed About Lesbian Couple’s Horrific Abuse Of Their 5-Year-Old Son That Caused Two Strokes And Broken Bones

    https://www.yourtango.com/2017306840/details-oklahoma-lesbian-couple-child-abuse-son-jail-duct-tape

    Lesbians convicted of child abuse lose appeal (14753)

    https://www.advocate.com/news/2005/01/08/lesbians-convicted-child-abuse-lose-appeal-14753

    Inside Brutal Baby Lollipops Murder Case That Shook South Florida

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/inside-brutal-baby-lollipops-murder-case-that-shook-south-florida-113594/

    Murder charge mother ‘failed’ son Liam

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-36342256

    Huff-Puff lies, as ever:

    Child Abuse Rate At Zero Percent In Lesbian Households, New Report Finds

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lesbians-child-abuse-0-percent_n_781624

    The hatred of men is a theme in the lesbian radical feminist community. From Emily McComb’s

    https://dailycaller.com/2017/12/29/huffington-post-editor-reveals-new-years-resolution-kill-all-men/

    So- why do have sons? Not adopted? Mother nature is a wise woman ….

    https://albertmohler.com/2004/12/14/lesbians-raising-sons-got-a-problem-with-that

    So- why do have sons? Not adopted? Mother nature is a wise woman ….

    In her introduction, Jess Wells explains that the whole issue of lesbians raising sons is due to a biological circumstance. “A socially and biologically driven phenomenon is producing a disproportionate number of male children within the current lesbian baby boom. Lesbians who choose to undergo donor insemination now have at least a 65 percent chance of bearing a son.” Wells went on to explain why this is so. She argues that male sperm weigh less than female sperm and therefore swim faster and are more likely to reach the egg ahead of sperm without a Y chromosome. The disproportionate number of boys born to lesbian mothers is thus, at least in part, an ironic slap in the face from an unforgiving biological fact.
     

    Morgan and her partner also worked to create a feminist environment in which their son would be raised. “We tried to offer alternatives to the patriarchal ‘norms.’ We celebrated Wiccan holidays with much pomp, while giving a superficial nod to Christmas and Hanukkah. He was offered–and played with–dolls and tea sets as well as with fire trucks and tractors.”
     

    An even more extreme vision of lesbian motherhood and sons was related by Ruthann Robson as she explained the response of lesbian separatists to the birth of her son. Having been separatists themselves, they were puzzled by how they would deal with this baby boy. “What were two dykes going to do with this miniature emissary from the patriarchy who invaded our lives? One of us would be the one to give him a bath every night. The other one would be telling bedtime stories.”
     

    In her own chapter, Jess Wells insisted that she had done everything within her power to avoid giving birth to a son. “How had this happened? I had paid to have the sperm sex-selected. The sperm had been made to swim for hours, and the fastest swimmers–the ‘male’ sperm–had been poured down the sink.
     

    “I had been planning on a girl,” Wells remembered. “It was essential that I have a girl.” When she was told that her womb contained a boy, she was “profoundly disappointed.” As an ardent opponent of “male privilege, patriarchy, and male culture,” Wells didn’t want anything to do with raising a boy.
     

    Eventually, she was reconciled to the fact that her child was a boy and decided this could be a positive experience. “My son cannot take me away from the struggle for women’s rights, nor can he force me to take an interest in anything that I don’t deem interesting. He cannot be my oppressor because he is my child, and he cannot be a second chance to relive my life because he has his own life. He and I will explore each other’s cultures, sharing what we can and respecting what we can’t . . . Both of us, respecting each other’s sovereignty, can rejoice in our foreignness and celebrate our diversity.“
     

    Replies: @JMcG, @2BR, @Rob

    You know why life is rough for sons of lesbian couples? You know what single moms are like? The lesbian couple’s kid has two of them.

    [MORE]

    Even if the boy is very low on boyish traits, he is not a girl. If he plays with dolls and tea sets instead of action figures and fighting games, then encountering other boys at school will difficult, at best.

    One problem closer to home would be that so many lesbians consider having a boy to be an opportunity to craft a feminist man. They don’t seem interested in letting the boy grow up, develop his own interests, his own thoughts, his own philosophy of life, however inchoate and halfsssed it may be.

    Lesbians are solidly creatures of the left. Today, the Twitter Left. The only trait the think is genetically influenced is homosexuality. They don’t realize the kid has tendencies built in, both the near-universal traits that were important, and so are baked into everyones cake, and the less important as well as the frequency dependent traits that vary, and traits that were not so important that vary a lot.

    The lesbian does not think “this is the kids cake baking itself. He is running around at the grocery store because when I take him to the park, I don’t let him play soccer with the other boys. I don’t want him to pick up boy culture.” She’s more likely to think “he is running around to upset me. He is a Bad Boy.” Also, lesbians cannot use, “wait until your father comes home!” to force compliance.

    So, the boy, who is likely straight as an arrow, most guys are, does not have any male influences. He either tries to fit in with girls, which is difficult, and the dynamic changes a lot with puberty. The girls who were his best friends in fourth grade will laugh hysterically when jocks (or whoever) mistreat him. That’s hard on a kid. Also, at puberty, what the kid wants from female friends changes, too.

    He can certainly go the other way. “Reactive masculinity” is the sociologists name for what you might think of as “black masculinity” in America or just as “black male behavior” f you their behavior is not consonant with your personal theory of masculinity. Henry Harpending discusses it in the intro to a paper on verbal-mathematical tilt of kids from two parent vs single mom homes. I’ll try to kind it if anyone reads my comments this far down. Reactive masculinity is certainly an adaptation for for pre-state societies where men were more involved in male-male coalitioning and competing than on provisioning, but it is not conducive to positive interactions with authority figures in school. Especially male ones.

    All that said, I’ve known sons of lesbian moms who turned out fine. Childhood was rough, usually. But if they can avoid reform school, or whatever prison-school is called now, and most kids from the middle class on up can. High school tends to be better. These boys are the sons of sperm donors. Biologically, sperm donors are an elite, so their intelligence often shines through to teachers.

    How do other cultures handle physical punishments of children? I don’t mean what the French do. What do Africans do? Do mothers do corporal punishment or is that father-only? If people evolved with women punishing kids, then I could see how women might end up being more violent to children. One wonders what the rate of female-on-male domestic violence would be if women were the size and strength of men. I think it would be pretty high. Lesbian couples give us a hint of what that would be like.

    Lesbian couples probably have more domestic violence than gay men because lesbian are more pair-bond oriented than gay men. There’s a fair amount of turnover in gay male relationships. Knowing there’s always someone out there means you don’t need to hold on to the current one so tightly. Also, when men fight, someone can get hurt. Men know this, so they don’t get physical. If a woman hits her male partner, she’s usually expressing frustration, not trying to break him. He doesn’t hit back, don’t hit girls is strongly ingrained. When a lesbian does the same thing, her partner has not had a lifetime of “don’t hit girls” so she hits back, and then…

    • Agree: Jim Christian
    • Thanks: ic1000
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Rob

    Agree, and ...


    I’ll try to [f]ind it if anyone reads my comments this far down.
     
    ... I read that far and I'll trade you for Steve making the same point exactly eight years ago:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/a-lotta-drama-lotta-instability-not/

    Bonus: includes a high-n study showing the same thing pre-Great Awokening. Of course it is now forbidden knowledge.

    Replies: @Rob, @Sam Malone

  134. @Servant of Gla'aki
    @Almost Missouri


    ...the Virginia Tech shooter, who seemed like a tediously conventional—even passé—rampage shooter.
     
    You dare to imply aspersions against the literary value of RICHARD McBEEF?!?

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Ha, I had never heard of Richard McBeef before, but since I’ve already a bunch of spree killers’ writings, I took a few minutes to pound McBeef, and …

    … yes, I dare to imply—nay, to cast boldly—aspersions against its literary value. Brenton Tarrant and Elliot “Supreme Gentleman” Rodger were both more cogent and convincing writers, while the Klebold and Harris made more innovative use of media and had a better visceral grasp of their subject matter, though to be fair, English was Cho’s second language. But ESL student Anders Breivik was a better and more prolific writer despite lacking Cho’s educational advantage. Of course, the gold standard is Ted Kaczynski’s monumental oeuvre (though I personally appreciated Tarrant’s brevity and panache). By comparison, Cho’s work is hackneyed and derivative (including, apparently, of Oldboy) and his stage directions are impossible (it is evident that he’s never been around a chainsaw, for example.)

    So yes, tediously conventional, derivative, and even perfunctory.

  135. @Chicken Fried Dinosaur
    @Mr. Anon

    What, you trust the medical establishment when it recommends injections in other contexts, but not this one? So you're like, 75% obedient to your "masters," much better than those 100% obedient peasants.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    What, you trust the medical establishment when it recommends injections in other contexts, but not this one? So you’re like, 75% obedient to your “masters,” much better than those 100% obedient peasants.

    Sometimes. Vitamins, anti-histamines, anti-biotics, and steroids all seem to work pretty well at what they are supposed to do. Propofol does actually knock you out prior to surgery (whether all surgeries need general anesthesia is another matter). But most importantly, all those things are voluntary. There is no mandate stipulating that you will get a shot of B-12 or vancomycin or else you will be fired. That’s the difference, nitwit.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Mr. Anon

    Vaccines by needles are mandatory for millions of children to be allowed to attend public schools all over and this did not seem to be a big human rights issue in elections prior to 2020.

    For example, every time a vacancy comes up on the Supreme Court, there is always a hoo-ha about whether they are believed to be for or against abortion, but I don't remember them ever being asked about vaccinations. Perhaps that will be an issue in the future, I don't know.

    But most importantly, all those things are voluntary. There is no mandate stipulating that you will get a shot of B-12 or vancomycin or else you will be fired. That’s the difference, nitwit.


    I think voluntary vaccination has already been tried and that vaccination mandates are a response to poor compliance, rather than the other way around, as you seem to think.

    I do understand that many people believe that vaccine mandates are some kind of deal that financially benefits drug companies, but this is not universal and not all mandated vaccines worldwide are being produced to reward shareholders.

    Of course in the US there is a widely-held and not unreasonable belief that if you do something of value to other people, then you should be allowed to profit financially from it, and so companies like Pfizer and Moderna, are probably making out like bandits by charging $30 for two doses, but then again companies like AstraZenica and Johnson & Johnson are distributing the vaccine at cost for the duration of the pandemic, and Novavax is charging only $4 in Africa, while Gamaleya is distributing its vaccine for free in Russia, but charging $20 for two shots for export markets.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar

  136. @Rob
    @Bardon Kaldian

    You know why life is rough for sons of lesbian couples? You know what single moms are like? The lesbian couple’s kid has two of them.

    Even if the boy is very low on boyish traits, he is not a girl. If he plays with dolls and tea sets instead of action figures and fighting games, then encountering other boys at school will difficult, at best.

    One problem closer to home would be that so many lesbians consider having a boy to be an opportunity to craft a feminist man. They don’t seem interested in letting the boy grow up, develop his own interests, his own thoughts, his own philosophy of life, however inchoate and halfsssed it may be.

    Lesbians are solidly creatures of the left. Today, the Twitter Left. The only trait the think is genetically influenced is homosexuality. They don’t realize the kid has tendencies built in, both the near-universal traits that were important, and so are baked into everyones cake, and the less important as well as the frequency dependent traits that vary, and traits that were not so important that vary a lot.

    The lesbian does not think “this is the kids cake baking itself. He is running around at the grocery store because when I take him to the park, I don’t let him play soccer with the other boys. I don’t want him to pick up boy culture.” She’s more likely to think “he is running around to upset me. He is a Bad Boy.” Also, lesbians cannot use, “wait until your father comes home!” to force compliance.

    So, the boy, who is likely straight as an arrow, most guys are, does not have any male influences. He either tries to fit in with girls, which is difficult, and the dynamic changes a lot with puberty. The girls who were his best friends in fourth grade will laugh hysterically when jocks (or whoever) mistreat him. That’s hard on a kid. Also, at puberty, what the kid wants from female friends changes, too.

    He can certainly go the other way. “Reactive masculinity” is the sociologists name for what you might think of as “black masculinity” in America or just as “black male behavior” f you their behavior is not consonant with your personal theory of masculinity. Henry Harpending discusses it in the intro to a paper on verbal-mathematical tilt of kids from two parent vs single mom homes. I’ll try to kind it if anyone reads my comments this far down. Reactive masculinity is certainly an adaptation for for pre-state societies where men were more involved in male-male coalitioning and competing than on provisioning, but it is not conducive to positive interactions with authority figures in school. Especially male ones.

    All that said, I’ve known sons of lesbian moms who turned out fine. Childhood was rough, usually. But if they can avoid reform school, or whatever prison-school is called now, and most kids from the middle class on up can. High school tends to be better. These boys are the sons of sperm donors. Biologically, sperm donors are an elite, so their intelligence often shines through to teachers.

    How do other cultures handle physical punishments of children? I don’t mean what the French do. What do Africans do? Do mothers do corporal punishment or is that father-only? If people evolved with women punishing kids, then I could see how women might end up being more violent to children. One wonders what the rate of female-on-male domestic violence would be if women were the size and strength of men. I think it would be pretty high. Lesbian couples give us a hint of what that would be like.

    Lesbian couples probably have more domestic violence than gay men because lesbian are more pair-bond oriented than gay men. There’s a fair amount of turnover in gay male relationships. Knowing there’s always someone out there means you don’t need to hold on to the current one so tightly. Also, when men fight, someone can get hurt. Men know this, so they don’t get physical. If a woman hits her male partner, she’s usually expressing frustration, not trying to break him. He doesn’t hit back, don’t hit girls is strongly ingrained. When a lesbian does the same thing, her partner has not had a lifetime of “don’t hit girls” so she hits back, and then…

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Agree, and …

    I’ll try to [f]ind it if anyone reads my comments this far down.

    … I read that far and I’ll trade you for Steve making the same point exactly eight years ago:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/a-lotta-drama-lotta-instability-not/

    Bonus: includes a high-n study showing the same thing pre-Great Awokening. Of course it is now forbidden knowledge.

    • Replies: @Rob
    @Almost Missouri

    Sure thing. Father Absence and Reproductive Strategy: An Evolutionary Perspective

    Regular Google gave me a “there are many good hits for your query for ‘harpending verbal mathematical SAT single "mother"’ but it was the first hit on Google Scholar. I wonder if Harpending was half-unpersonned for his “white supremacist” views. He was not a white supremacist. He just noticed when different cultures were different. Like he had a graduate degree and professorship in “the study of human cultures” or some shit. Interestingly, the censors have not gotten their claws into Google Scholar yet. Wonder how long Scholar will be available to non-academics?

    The evolution of Ashkenazi Intelligence came up. Of course, certain people are fine with realists thinking Jews are smarter than whites. It’s only believing that there are valuable things about Gentile whites that is verboten.

    Disappointing that Steve already made that “two single moms” observation I thought I was being very witty.

    Replies: @Rob

    , @Sam Malone
    @Almost Missouri

    It's interesting, like being a time traveler, to read the comments in that old Steve piece - from exactly 8 years ago almost to the day! - and see a snapshot of who some of the commenters were at the time. There are the ones you have no memory of, the ones whose names you vaguely recall but who don't show up much or at all anymore, and the ones (the few, it seems) who are still around and kicking. And you realize some things that you hadn't realized before - like that Another Dad was apparently a regular here as long as 8 years ago. I would have put him at showing up here maybe 5 or so years ago.

    Which in turn makes you realize how fuzzy your memories get over time.

    Like how seeing a mention here sometimes of an old Steve article will make me realize how fast time has flown - I'll have an actual memory of reading the piece in question (maybe vague, but still a recollection of Steve making that point and a rough idea of where I was in my job or life at the time I first read it) and then see the article's date: 10 years ago instead of the four it feels like, or 15 years ago instead of the 7 or 8 it surely must be. And then you realize how much of your life has already gone by, and how much of it you spent reading stuff here. I wonder if the last thing some of us will see before we die is a snarky iSteve comment section back-and-forth being replayed before our eyes?

  137. @HammerJack

    It is the oldest of the Seven Sisters and is in the lesbian heavy Hampshires of Western Massachusetts. But lesbians are out of fashion. Some of them are so evil as to assert that fetishists in frocks are not real women.
     
    The real injustice is that Florence King is no longer around to share her opinions on this topic. She could (and would) be withering, and in the most civilized fashion imaginable.

    On second thought, perhaps it's better that she not have to deal with our terminally benighted era.

    https://fredericksburg.com/news/local/fredericksburg/fredericksburg-author-florence-king-dead-at/article_434a042a-b665-11e5-a02e-0f90b2f4ca34.html

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Servant of Gla'aki, @Charles Pewitt, @Wade Hampton

    The joker in the deck of lesbian fidelity is female vanity: no woman of fifty is going to undress in front of a woman of twenty no matter how much she might lust for her.

    From “The Florence King Reader”, published 1995.

    • Replies: @Shel100
    @Wade Hampton

    I'm not so sure about that.Hillary Clinton is thirty years older than Huma Abedin.

    Replies: @Prester John

    , @Ralph L
    @Wade Hampton

    Drunk male at a party: I could sure use a little pussy.
    Florence: So could I, mine's as big as a bucket.

    --Confessions of a Failed Southern Lady

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Wade Hampton

    "Long-term" lesbian couplings often erode, or explode, when one has a child. One's possessiveness is rooted in possessiveness, the other's in blood. Not to mention the experience of gestation and birth.

    If the "other mother" wants a genetic tie, the obvious solution is to utilize [sic] semen from a brother or other close relative. Is that legal/ It would hardly be incest.

  138. @Charles Pewitt
    @HammerJack

    The real injustice is that Florence King is no longer around to share her opinions on this topic. She could (and would) be withering, and in the most civilized fashion imaginable.

    I say:

    I am proud to share Virginia Company English blood with Miss Florence King. My ancestor Thomas Prewitt came to the colony of Virginia in 1635 and he was born in Salisbury, England. Thomas Hardy and Florence King were great writers and Hardy was proud of his Norman ancestry and Florence King was proud to be English, but I don't know if she had any Anglo-Norman ancestry.

    Florence King was the best part of that long ago era National Review for me. King was a great writer and I loved Florence King’s book reviews. Florence King used to go after writers whose work was awkward or just bad writing. I like the fact that Florence King the professional writer was so practiced in her craft of writing that she could take these other professional writers to task for their work.

    I read a lot of Florence King’s books and I enjoyed all of them — especially her crisp writing. Florence King was a writer who didn’t screw around with nonsense.

    I didn’t like the dismissive tone of Florence King’s writing when she was talking about the Buchanans — especially Bay Buchanan, but Florence King might have been writing as a Virginian looking askance at the Mississippi Buchanans. Florence King’s crack about the Buchanan’s — Pat and Bay — causing a brou without the haha during their campaigns was too much.

    Florence King was proud of her Virginia ancestry and her grandmother kept her proud.

    Florence King also might have wrote that she belonged to the class that dare not speak its name: Lower Middle Class. I’m sure it was her, but not completely sure.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Reg Cæsar

    I like the fact that Florence King the professional writer was so practiced in her craft of writing that she could take these other professional writers to task for their work.

    Whereas politely pointing out a misspelling or grammatical faux pas here will get your head handed to you as a “prescriptivist”– or “prescriptionist”, depending on which Corvine sockpuppet is sicced on you.

    Florence King also might have wrote

    Uhhh… Miss King is rolling in her grave.

    …the class that dare not speak its name: Lower Middle Class.

    She used the terms “high WASP” and “low WASP”. My father was a low WASP of the Great Lakes variety. Little white steeples in little white villages.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Reg Cæsar


    She used the terms “high WASP” and “low WASP”. My father was a low WASP of the Great Lakes variety.
     
    Interesting. The demarcation between high WASP and low WASP men has long been six feet in height, according to Emily Poast.
    , @Polistra
    @Reg Cæsar


    Whereas politely pointing out a misspelling or grammatical faux pas here will get your head handed to you
     
    Now, now. This place is more tolerant of such corrections than any other site I know of. Oh snap, ended with a preposition.

    Using a bit of humor, as you often do, helps a bit.
  139. @Reg Cæsar
    @Charles Pewitt


    I like the fact that Florence King the professional writer was so practiced in her craft of writing that she could take these other professional writers to task for their work.

     

    Whereas politely pointing out a misspelling or grammatical faux pas here will get your head handed to you as a "prescriptivist"-- or "prescriptionist", depending on which Corvine sockpuppet is sicced on you.

    Florence King also might have wrote...

     

    Uhhh... Miss King is rolling in her grave.

    ...the class that dare not speak its name: Lower Middle Class.

     

    She used the terms "high WASP" and "low WASP". My father was a low WASP of the Great Lakes variety. Little white steeples in little white villages.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Polistra

    She used the terms “high WASP” and “low WASP”. My father was a low WASP of the Great Lakes variety.

    Interesting. The demarcation between high WASP and low WASP men has long been six feet in height, according to Emily Poast.

  140. @Wade Hampton
    @HammerJack


    The joker in the deck of lesbian fidelity is female vanity: no woman of fifty is going to undress in front of a woman of twenty no matter how much she might lust for her.
     
    From "The Florence King Reader", published 1995.

    Replies: @Shel100, @Ralph L, @Reg Cæsar

    I’m not so sure about that.Hillary Clinton is thirty years older than Huma Abedin.

    • Replies: @Prester John
    @Shel100

    Huma Homina Homina Huma, identified in an article as Hillary's, uh, "aide", was at The Great Woman's side as they entered the CalIrvine Hospital to see the Husband of Record.

  141. @Wade Hampton
    @HammerJack


    The joker in the deck of lesbian fidelity is female vanity: no woman of fifty is going to undress in front of a woman of twenty no matter how much she might lust for her.
     
    From "The Florence King Reader", published 1995.

    Replies: @Shel100, @Ralph L, @Reg Cæsar

    Drunk male at a party: I could sure use a little pussy.
    Florence: So could I, mine’s as big as a bucket.

    –Confessions of a Failed Southern Lady

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Ralph L


    Drunk male at a party: I could sure use a little pussy.
    Florence: So could I, mine’s as big as a bucket.

     

    Shane Black covered this in Predator (1987):

    https://youtu.be/gZNZYOQ_tt8
  142. @HA
    @anon

    "Cases peaked, then rapidly declined."

    Yes, whether it was the booster shots, or the fact that the delta variant fizzles out quickly, if the experience of India and the UK is any guide, or else some combination of both those factors, Isreal is doing pretty well about now, and looking to do even better in the weeks ahead, and even though the infection rates got high, the death rate was lower than in the past . About 40% of the COVID deaths there a while ago were coming from the unvaccinated, even though they're a small minority in Israel, so that tells you something.

    In other words, if this is supposed to be some argument against vaccination, whoever is trying to spin it that way needs to rethink it. Or, as you say, at least update it.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

    “About 40% of the COVID deaths there a while ago were coming from the unvaccinated, even though they’re a small minority in Israel, so that tells you something.”
    So 60% were vaccinated?

  143. @guest007
    Two comments:

    1. Since Steve mentioned data collected by emergency medicine, everyone should be aware that such data does not support the idea that the vast majority of domestic violence is male on female. As any emergency medicine nurse will confirm, it is closer to 50/50 on the gender of the perpretrator. Just ask them about what a golf club, baseball bat, cook pan can do to a male who is passed out drunk.

    3. Steve should write about the disappearance of the "Butch" lesbian. That is where many of the female to male trans are coming from. One idea is that gender fluidity was eliminate the lesbian only space and steered lesbians into becoming either non-binary or trans.

    Replies: @jim don bob

    Steve should write about the disappearance of the “Butch” lesbian. That is where many of the female to male trans are coming from.

    Well said. I have thought this for a long time.

  144. Because homosexuals are mentally unstable!!! Societies around the world seemed to have a tacit understanding of this from damn-near the beginning of time. However, circa the 1970s, due to political correctness, the designation of homosexuals as being deviants and mentally unstable has been aggressively rolled back. And here we are today . . .

  145. Q: What does a lesbian bring to a second date?
    A: A U-Haul

    Q: What does a gay man bring to a second date?
    A: What second date?

  146. @Steve Sailer
    @Almost Missouri

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/wow-you-called-it/

    One of the commenters says I have "loose neurons" that allow me to make off-the-wall connections. I only watched 10 minutes of the Korean ultra-violent movie "Old Boy" before fleeing, but it's a powerful movie, kind of in the way that that "Taxi Driver" helped get President Reagan shot.

    Movies are really, really influential.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Almost Missouri, @Bill P, @ic1000

    Au contraire — it isn’t “loose” anything but rather tight conceptual fusion, which is one of the bases of creative thought.

    The ability to join concepts in a synthetic dyad and then come up with a novel hypothesis is what sets us apart from animals.

  147. Lesbians are going to be disproportionately screwed-up people to begin with.

    It’s like discovering that rescue animals are more likely to bite.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Colin Wright

    Bite your tongue. So-called purebreds are generally wrecked.

  148. @HammerJack
    @Reg Cæsar


    You’ve become so comfortable, that one (or both of you) gained weight. Like a lot of weight.
     
    This is the Lesbian Credo, I believe. It's the natural corollary of:

    A World Without Men? It would be full of fat, happy women!
     
    The typical solution is to gain weight carefully in tandem, and as quickly as possible. And as much as possible.

    Even Florence King was trying to hide behind those roses, and she wasn't fooling anyone. Like those old Mamas and Papas album covers, where they did their best to hide Mama Cass's girth, and it was just never enough. But I digress.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @AnotherDad, @Known Fact, @Reg Cæsar

    A World Without Men? It would be full of fat, happy women!

    One constant from feminists: They have no idea how the world actually works.

    A world without men, would be full of fat happy women … for maybe an hour or so until the power went out. If it was winter, women would be very, very unhappy by nightfall. And once the food in the super-market started running out, it would be a world of progressively leaner and much fewer women.

    Of course, a world without women would not be very pleasant either … though for an entirely different reason. Our politics would certainly be better … but to what end?

    Bottom line: men and women are complementary … we fit together so wonderfully. (And people holding up and taking “pride” in all the freaks, deviants and developmental failures is really sick.)

    • Replies: @Bill P
    @AnotherDad

    If a world without men were really so great, women would leave us alone for more than a second or two. Do they do that? Hell no.

    Try starting a men's club somewhere and before you know it they'll be pounding at the door wearing next to nothing. That is a fact.

    Replies: @Polistra

  149. @Anon
    My wife has punched me in anger maybe three times in our 20 year relationship. But it’s like child punching you. It doesn’t hurt, you can grab her wrists and stop her anytime you feel like it, there is never any danger. It’s annoying but it’s no more of a big deal than a fight where she hurts my feeling or something. I have punched her zero times, obviously, and if I did it would be a big deal since I could hurt her very badly.

    So my guess is that lesbians hit each other more, because women are rationally less restrained in their use of the generally mild violence that they can inflict, and lesbians are more likely to call the police than husbands.

    Replies: @additionalMike, @Lurker

    Pretty much. I was slapped by a girlfriend in 10th grade (OK, deserved) and got a punch from my wife many years ago. A girl-punch, all arm, not even painful, and certainly not dangerous.
    She has forgiven my transgressions, by the way.

  150. @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous

    Inb4 Reg Cæsar:

    Steve was just distracted by bacon.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/01/fe/30/01fe30400db6ad7e0ad511fc5d5e6696.jpg

    But seriously, Mount Holyoke is in Hampshire County, but so far as I know the locals do not refer to it as the "Hampshires".

    The "Berkshires" are further west, more rugged, and therefore less blessed with crazy lesbians and toxic liberal arts colleges. Depending on whom you ask, "The Berkshires" may or may not be contiguous with Berkshire County.

    ------


    Savoy said Hachiyanagi, who she had considered a dear friend, repeatedly taunted her during the attack, telling her she would be blinded and disfigured before her murder. She also said Hachiyanagi, noticing the blood loss Savoy had sustained, told her victim she did not have much longer to live and then watched her bleed more.
     
    One too many J-horror viewings?

    There's probably a Ringu joke in here somewhere...

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Brutusale, @Dmon

    Good to see a shoutout to Al Lumnah, the Greatest Living American. King of the Modern ‘Steaders, Al does everything and complains about nothing. Ibram X. Kendi is the anti-matter version of Al – if they ever meet, it could mean the end of the Universe. Fortunately, Al is up in New Hampshire somewhere, which may be in the Berkshires but is definitely not in the Hampshires.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Dmon


    Al is up in New Hampshire somewhere, which may be in the Berkshires but is definitely not in the Hampshires.
     
    Definitely not in The Berkshires, but maybe in the New Hampshires!

    (AFAIK the logo doesn't refer to location, but to his hogs being a cross of Berkshire and Hampshire breeds.)
  151. @AnotherDad
    @HammerJack


    A World Without Men? It would be full of fat, happy women!
     
    One constant from feminists: They have no idea how the world actually works.

    A world without men, would be full of fat happy women ... for maybe an hour or so until the power went out. If it was winter, women would be very, very unhappy by nightfall. And once the food in the super-market started running out, it would be a world of progressively leaner and much fewer women.

    Of course, a world without women would not be very pleasant either ... though for an entirely different reason. Our politics would certainly be better ... but to what end?


    Bottom line: men and women are complementary ... we fit together so wonderfully. (And people holding up and taking "pride" in all the freaks, deviants and developmental failures is really sick.)

    Replies: @Bill P

    If a world without men were really so great, women would leave us alone for more than a second or two. Do they do that? Hell no.

    Try starting a men’s club somewhere and before you know it they’ll be pounding at the door wearing next to nothing. That is a fact.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Bill P


    If a world without men were really so great, women would leave us alone for more than a second or two. Do they do that? Hell no.
     
    Similarly with a world without whites. They strive for this thing that they won't be able to tolerate, or even survive. Such is the power of propaganda.
  152. Self-identifying lesbians appear to be fading away numerically as young women of the sapphic persuasion are increasingly persuaded to declare themselves males and take male hormones.

    I haven’t seen hard numbers, but i’m skeptical of the last phrase–actually taking testosterone.

    Lesbianism seems to be a much “fuzzier” thing than male homosexuality. And various economic, technological, political and cultural trends have made it less likely for young men and women to like each other, feel connected to each other, want each other.

    And what i see is just more young women–many of whom might have been candidates for lesbian activity–to declare themselves to be “non-binary” or some other such gobbledygook. But i don’t think very many are actually take testosterone.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  153. Our lesbian basement neighbors often had ambulances called after their violent and noisy altercations. One of them would brutally beat the other, often causing injuries like broken limbs. The victim would always return for more.

  154. @Anon
    My wife has punched me in anger maybe three times in our 20 year relationship. But it’s like child punching you. It doesn’t hurt, you can grab her wrists and stop her anytime you feel like it, there is never any danger. It’s annoying but it’s no more of a big deal than a fight where she hurts my feeling or something. I have punched her zero times, obviously, and if I did it would be a big deal since I could hurt her very badly.

    So my guess is that lesbians hit each other more, because women are rationally less restrained in their use of the generally mild violence that they can inflict, and lesbians are more likely to call the police than husbands.

    Replies: @additionalMike, @Lurker

    I was seeing a girl for a while who would on occasion get drunk* and that would make her irritable (or tearful). Once she got really angry and tried punching me. Which essentially had no effect on me whatsoever. It was mildly annoying, nothing more. It seemed what was really annoying her was that I just wasn’t reacting at all. Was I supposed to shout at her, slap her, shag her right there and then? I dunno?! Didn’t do any of that and we kissed and made up a few minutes later.

    What Ive taken away from it is a greater sense of the absurdity of kick-ass TV/movie girls who can fell a big man with one punch. No, ladies, you can’t. (Furthermore my lady was above average female height and build, though still smaller than me and thus had a bit more heft behind her fist than the average girl).

    In the recent TV version of The Punisher we were required to believe that a 5′ 4½” police girl could defeat a 5′ 11″ special forces guy in hand to hand combat. Later this little girl is herself almost killed in single combat with non-military, non-police 5′ 3½” lady psychiatrist.

    Ridiculous.

    *Good news, I heard from her quite recently and she hasn’t had a drink for year.

    • Agree: Polistra
  155. @Gaius Gracchus
    I heard from ER nurses years ago about the full moon effect. They all told me there are more car accidents, births, physical assaults, and other incidents on the full moon. When I meet an ER nurse, I always ask about it. Each one confirms that it is their experience.

    On Lesbian domestic violence, a friend who is a criminal defense attorney has told me about the large number of Lesbian (and gay) cases he has seen.

    Replies: @murse, @Almost Missouri, @S. Anonyia

    Lots of teachers also swear kids/teenagers act crazier during a full moon. I couldn’t tell the difference during my time as a teacher- out of control behavior seemed more related to disruptions like impending holidays, bad weather, or school assemblies. Older and black teachers believed in the full moon effect most.

  156. @Dmon
    @Almost Missouri

    Good to see a shoutout to Al Lumnah, the Greatest Living American. King of the Modern 'Steaders, Al does everything and complains about nothing. Ibram X. Kendi is the anti-matter version of Al - if they ever meet, it could mean the end of the Universe. Fortunately, Al is up in New Hampshire somewhere, which may be in the Berkshires but is definitely not in the Hampshires.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Al is up in New Hampshire somewhere, which may be in the Berkshires but is definitely not in the Hampshires.

    Definitely not in The Berkshires, but maybe in the New Hampshires!

    (AFAIK the logo doesn’t refer to location, but to his hogs being a cross of Berkshire and Hampshire breeds.)

  157. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Charles Pewitt

    "but Florence King might have been writing as a Virginian looking askance at the Mississippi Buchanans."

    In his autobiography, Right from the Beginning, Pat Buchanan mentions his ancestry, and no family from Mississippi was recounted. Southern family lines, yes. But prominent family trees from MI, no.

    There was however, a family line that has roots in Western PA, which is as from away from MI as possible. As Buchanan is Irish, and German-Dutch, it doesn't make much sense that he would have Deep Southern roots as Germans, Dutch and Irish (not Scots-Irish, but Shamrock Irish) didn't tend to settle there.

    Perhaps Miss King was aggravated by Bay, a woman vs woman petty jealousy thing, or rather a petty classist kind of thing. Bay's time in the political spotlight, at least in front of the camera, vanished almost as soon as it began.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia

    I don’t know about Western PA family lines being as far from MS as possible. I’m from the Deep South and among my family lines who were actually American at the time of the revolution (maybe 1/3 of them), many lived in Pennsylvania until the 1830s when Indian land was opened for settlement in the South. Also, while mildly unusual there were “Shamrock” Irish and German speaking immigrants (many Swiss) throughout the South, especially around the coastal cities. I have ancestry from both groups, plus some other non-stereotypically Southern groups like Scandinavians and Scottish Catholics. Settlement patterns to the urbanized parts of the South weren’t that different than those of the Midwest or North, it’s just that the South had a higher proportion of rural areas compared to cities so the urban South kind of gets ignored in historical record.

  158. @Reg Cæsar
    @Charles Pewitt


    I like the fact that Florence King the professional writer was so practiced in her craft of writing that she could take these other professional writers to task for their work.

     

    Whereas politely pointing out a misspelling or grammatical faux pas here will get your head handed to you as a "prescriptivist"-- or "prescriptionist", depending on which Corvine sockpuppet is sicced on you.

    Florence King also might have wrote...

     

    Uhhh... Miss King is rolling in her grave.

    ...the class that dare not speak its name: Lower Middle Class.

     

    She used the terms "high WASP" and "low WASP". My father was a low WASP of the Great Lakes variety. Little white steeples in little white villages.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Polistra

    Whereas politely pointing out a misspelling or grammatical faux pas here will get your head handed to you

    Now, now. This place is more tolerant of such corrections than any other site I know of. Oh snap, ended with a preposition.

    Using a bit of humor, as you often do, helps a bit.

  159. @Colin Wright
    Lesbians are going to be disproportionately screwed-up people to begin with.

    It's like discovering that rescue animals are more likely to bite.

    Replies: @Polistra

    Bite your tongue. So-called purebreds are generally wrecked.

  160. @Bill P
    @AnotherDad

    If a world without men were really so great, women would leave us alone for more than a second or two. Do they do that? Hell no.

    Try starting a men's club somewhere and before you know it they'll be pounding at the door wearing next to nothing. That is a fact.

    Replies: @Polistra

    If a world without men were really so great, women would leave us alone for more than a second or two. Do they do that? Hell no.

    Similarly with a world without whites. They strive for this thing that they won’t be able to tolerate, or even survive. Such is the power of propaganda.

  161. Besides being unnatural and degenerate relationships — which will naturally lead to poisonous, dangerous behavior, as we can see in any gay male relationship — there is also the female/female dynamic that leads lesbians to commit a lot of abuse.

    Men define attraction by the physical. Men are first and foremost attracted to a body, and then by how much sex he can get out of that body. This is why gay men have so much sex with so many partners — because, freed of female lower sex drives, they are all about the orgasm, and in fact have so much their sexual wildlife creates new diseases and horrid infections.

    Women, in contrast, define attraction by the emotional drama. Women are first and foremost attracted by the emotion of the moment, and then by how much they can continue an emotional rollercoaster off that moment. When a woman gets bored with a lover, however, the ride grinds to a halt. Women crave drama — witness any female-oriented show, and its a constant swoon of emotional drama, wildly shifting from happiness to sadness to anger to crying, all within the same episode. For example, the TV show Grey’s Anatomy has, over nearly 20 years, perfected the art of keeping women viewers emotionally off balance enough to be hooked to keep it running — Shonda Rimes does not get nearly enough credit for that modern TV miracle.

    In a male/female relationship, the female preference for drama is balanced by the male desire to get rid of the drama and work for sex (or at least peace).

    This female emphasis on drama means in a lesbian relationship, you don’t just get one party deliberately picking fights and trying to manipulate the other side with emotion and trying to create drama, you get a duel between two sides — each trying to out drama the other. As one bisexual woman (who had sworn off women) told me: “With a man, I come home, and I only get one of two emotions: content or upset, and most of the time its content. With a woman, I come home, and i get one of a hundred emotions that constantly shift, and I never know what its going to be. It’s exhausting.”

    So lesbians are constantly in a dueling psychodrama of manipulation and drama creation–and manipulation and drama creation are also called abuse. Eventually, the emotional abuse leads to physical abuse unless the relationship ends — and even after, because Hades hath no fury like a woman scorned. When you’re constantly one-upping the drama because you enjoy the drama, and your partner/opponent is too, sooner or later you’re going to get the drama and emotion so high that radical insane emotions create severe physical altercations. You can’t get two people topping each other to a 10 emotionally every night without something giving and someone lashing out physically.

    • Agree: Kronos
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @R.G. Camara


    Men define attraction by the physical. Men are first and foremost attracted to a body, and then by how much sex he can get out of that body.
     
    I think you mean "boys". Men are those that have grown out of that stage.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Obstinate Cymric

  162. I worked with a middle-aged lesbian when I was new to the workforce. She would come in limping somedays. On other occasions, she would have a black eye. It was quite obvious her GF was beating the snot out of her.

    When I met her GF I was astounded to see this 6.2 270 pound bull-dyke. A true behemoth. The bull-dyke had the white t-shirt, sloppy blue jeans & key ring…the classic look.

    Sadly the beatings my co-worker took resulted in her receiving brain lesions which went on to brain damage & disability.

    In a horrid twist of fate, I ran into my retired former co-worker some years later looking befuddled and accompanied by whom I thought was the same bull-dyke, but instead, it was a new dyke who looked just the same as the original abuser.

  163. Has anybody ever figured out whether the stereotype of lesbians being highly prone to domestic violence is really true? Not all stereotypes are true.

    Well I would think if it is true statistically it is the dominant or more butch partner more guilty of the violence.

    This would likely be due to the effects of higher testosterone levels in this female grouping accounting for their higher penchant for violence.

    Testosterone, along with physical superiority, also explains why men are more likely to be guilty of domestic violence than are women.

    By the way, I love the fetishists in frocks description for the Bruce Jenner types of our day. Very well put.

  164. The last time I saw an Asian lady cop she was about 5′ 3″ 115 pounds and she worked in the P. R. department. This was at my old apartment complex’s safety meeting. I did not ask the question which most interested me was WTF did she do if she was on patrol and she had to manage a 6′ 2″ 200 pound thug?

    What do the physical fitness requirements look like now? Is it a document with 50 pages of add-ons with all the special case exemptions?

  165. Steve, you said Hampshires but that area is known as the Berkshires.

  166. @Mr. Anon
    Isn't diversity grand? Something tells me that New York City would be better off with a bunch of rough, politically-incorrect Irish cops who might say problematic things but were brave and loyal, than leaving policing to Chinese lesbians.

    It's funny when you think about the police corruption portrayed in Serpico. All those cops were taking bribes from numbers rackets to look the other way. Of course, we still have numbers rackets. Now they're called Lotteries, and they're run by the state governments. Things are much better now.

    Replies: @slumber_j, @Chicken Fried Dinosaur, @AceDeuce

    Isn’t diversity grand? Something tells me that New York City would be better off with a bunch of rough, politically-incorrect Irish cops who might say problematic things but were brave and loyal, than leaving policing to Chinese lesbians.

    White Men are the worst people in the history of the world.

    With the exception of everyone else.

  167. @Almost Missouri
    @Rob

    Agree, and ...


    I’ll try to [f]ind it if anyone reads my comments this far down.
     
    ... I read that far and I'll trade you for Steve making the same point exactly eight years ago:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/a-lotta-drama-lotta-instability-not/

    Bonus: includes a high-n study showing the same thing pre-Great Awokening. Of course it is now forbidden knowledge.

    Replies: @Rob, @Sam Malone

    Sure thing. Father Absence and Reproductive Strategy: An Evolutionary Perspective

    Regular Google gave me a “there are many good hits for your query for ‘harpending verbal mathematical SAT single “mother”’ but it was the first hit on Google Scholar. I wonder if Harpending was half-unpersonned for his “white supremacist” views. He was not a white supremacist. He just noticed when different cultures were different. Like he had a graduate degree and professorship in “the study of human cultures” or some shit. Interestingly, the censors have not gotten their claws into Google Scholar yet. Wonder how long Scholar will be available to non-academics?

    The evolution of Ashkenazi Intelligence came up. Of course, certain people are fine with realists thinking Jews are smarter than whites. It’s only believing that there are valuable things about Gentile whites that is verboten.

    Disappointing that Steve already made that “two single moms” observation I thought I was being very witty.

    • Replies: @Rob
    @Rob

    Darn it. “There are not Many hits for your query...”

  168. @HammerJack
    @Reg Cæsar


    You’ve become so comfortable, that one (or both of you) gained weight. Like a lot of weight.
     
    This is the Lesbian Credo, I believe. It's the natural corollary of:

    A World Without Men? It would be full of fat, happy women!
     
    The typical solution is to gain weight carefully in tandem, and as quickly as possible. And as much as possible.

    Even Florence King was trying to hide behind those roses, and she wasn't fooling anyone. Like those old Mamas and Papas album covers, where they did their best to hide Mama Cass's girth, and it was just never enough. But I digress.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @AnotherDad, @Known Fact, @Reg Cæsar

    Like those old Mamas and Papas album covers, where they did their best to hide Mama Cass’s girth, and it was just never enough.

    Mission Impossible persisted in shooting several episodes while Lynda Day George was very pregnant. So she was constantly lurking behind some car, bar or bookcase, visible only from the tits up — before finally going away on “special assignment”

  169. @Charles Pewitt
    If True Blood TV show creator and writer Alan Ball wasn't familiar with Florence King it would be something else indeed.

    Thank you Mr Ball for the small Confederate Battle flag in your show after all the anti-Southern crud that's gone on in the mass media and the country in general. General Lee car with the Scottish diagonal cross on it's roof was all over the TV when I was a kid but the JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire started attacking the Confederate Battle flag shortly after.

    Alan Ball and Florence King as writers of the Southern lower middle class!

    Florence King on the class that dare not speak its name: LOWER MIDDLE CLASS

    Florence King from 2012:

    What happened, you ask, to the lower middle class? We don’t have one for the simple reason that Americans never call themselves that. The sole partial exception is the South, apart and eccentric as always, where lower-middle-class goes by the euphemisms ‘shabby genteel’ and ‘too poor to paint but too proud to whitewash’. This is the state of mind that allows Southerners to punch two holes in a can of Carnation evaporated milk and call it coffee cream.

    Our undefined middle class is the key to what has happened to our economy. It is by definition the striving class, and when just about everyone insists on placing himself in it, you end up with a nation of unrealistic strivers bent on what C. Wright Mills called ‘affluence without purpose’.

    Proving one’s middle-class status also required credit cards, so these became easily available, but the real middle-class nirvana was the 30-year mortgage with payments fully deductible on the mortgage holder’s federal income tax. These deductions came to billions of dollars every year, so knowing the government as we do, we have to wonder why it would be so eager to divest itself of so much moolah.

    We don’t have to wonder long. Try the protagonist of Sinclair Lewis’s 1921 novel Babbitt: ‘When folks own their homes, they ain’t starting labour troubles, and they’re raising kids instead of raising hell.’

    Or the builder of America’s first post-second world war suburb, William J. Levitt: ‘No man who owns his own house and lot can be a Communist. He has too much to do.’

    He won’t give the government any kind of trouble, communist or otherwise, because he has lobotomised himself with his own hoe. Being a ‘homeowner’ transforms him from a thinking reed into a tinkering, puttering, dull, small-minded bore, and that’s just the kind of citizen a desperate government wants. Someone so busy-busy that he couldn’t possibly start a revolution even if he wanted to. The sacred American home­owner will never take to the streets and mount the barricades because he has to stay home all day waiting for the Johnny-Be-Quik men to come and unclog the toilet.

    We have used 30-year mortgages as a safety valve against civil insurrection to create a bogus squirearchy with ‘something to lose’ so they will live in dread of losing it. This is peace through distraction and debt and it mounted to a fever pitch in the decade or so before the economic collapse of 2009. Americans’ definition of middle class made us sitting ducks for the own-your-own-home push. People completely unqualified to take on a mortgage got them anyway, bolstered by hostile attitudes directed against people who live in flats. There were a lot of sneering references to ‘a drawerful of rent receipts’ as if it were a drawerful of snakes. Every application, no matter how unrelated to one’s living arrangements, contained blocks marked ‘Rent’ or ‘Own’ that had to be checked. Some TV shrink even came up with a new disorder called ‘rental addiction’. I’m happy to report that I have it. And Carnation evaporated milk makes delicious coffee cream.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/stuck-in-the-middle

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Stick

    My father always used Carnation evaporated milk in his coffee. I use Half and Half. We are from NC and VA, respectively.

    • Replies: @Jiminy
    @Stick

    Could be worse. When I run out of milk I have at times resorted to using tinned condensed milk in my coffee. But the result is either too sickly sweet or not milky enough. And once I finish the cup I remind myself never to do that again for another year. My dad on the other hand used to eat the stuff straight from the tin. So for a prank my wife bought him a massive caterers tin of condensed milk. He needed both hands to hold it as he guzzled it. Toxic.

    , @Bill P
    @Stick

    My friend just helped renovate the Carnation estate. I always thought it was just a local company when I was a kid. We used to get little Carnation milk cartons with our lunch back in the 80s.

    My kids get Edaleen. Good stuff. When the border reopens Canadians will once again come in droves for milk and gas.

  170. A 1963 Outer Limits features two coffee-slurping aliens — Barry Morse and Carroll O’Connor — attempting to probe human behavior by analyzing the cold-blooded murder of a suave gigolo by his jealous girlfriend. Thanks to LGBTQ there’s plenty of much richer material out there now if they’d like to make a return visit

  171. @Ralph L
    @Wade Hampton

    Drunk male at a party: I could sure use a little pussy.
    Florence: So could I, mine's as big as a bucket.

    --Confessions of a Failed Southern Lady

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    Drunk male at a party: I could sure use a little pussy.
    Florence: So could I, mine’s as big as a bucket.

    Shane Black covered this in Predator (1987):

  172. @G. Poulin
    Someone should look into whether lesbians are especially apt to go batshit crazy during a full moon.

    Replies: @Kronos

    “Gaia calls for blood! Your blood!”

  173. @Steve Sailer
    @Almost Missouri

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/wow-you-called-it/

    One of the commenters says I have "loose neurons" that allow me to make off-the-wall connections. I only watched 10 minutes of the Korean ultra-violent movie "Old Boy" before fleeing, but it's a powerful movie, kind of in the way that that "Taxi Driver" helped get President Reagan shot.

    Movies are really, really influential.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Almost Missouri, @Bill P, @ic1000

    > Movies are really, really influential.

    A more Hollywood-friendly view is that entertainment by Bad People is Bad, but when it’s made by Good People, it’s Good.

    Netflix’ CEO Ted Sarandos is standing by Dave Chappelle, because Chappelle is on Netflix, which is run by Good People. That penumbra is broad enough to cover his just-released special.

    Chappelle is one of the most popular stand-up comedians today, and we have a long-standing deal with him. His last special “Sticks & Stones,” also controversial, is our most-watched, stickiest and most award-winning stand-up special to date. As with our other talent, we work hard to support their creative freedom – even though this means there will always be content on Netflix some people believe is harmful…

    Moving on from what the powerful say that they think — happily, a defense of the idea of free speech in this case — in Rob Henderson’s review of an older book by Roy Baumeister, he offers this opinion:

    …research indicates that fictional portrayals of violence have some influence on a small number of highly aggressive individuals.

    Put differently, media violence seems to affect only people who are inclined toward aggression anyway.

    This is consistent with Baumeister’s claim that most violence comes not from its promotion, but rather from a lack of constraints.

    Most people do not commit violence when they see it. But for a small number of people, exposure to violence seems to reduce their already scarce levels of impulse-control.

    Thus, in the aggregate, violent media has virtually zero effect on real-world violence. But it seems to have some nontrivial effect on a subset of the population.

    There’s some blogger who has tackled questions concerning what to do about fellow-citizens entering their teenaged years with scarce levels of impulse control. I don’t think his ideas have gained all that much attention.

  174. @Almost Missouri
    @Brutusale

    I've been to MassMoCA a few times. Even though I have to choke back my contempt for most of the "art", it can still make for a diverting day out. The old mill building that houses it is impressive and redolent of a bygone New England era. I often find myself looking more at the building and its old fixtures and signage than at the exhibits, of which maybe a one in ten or one in a hundred merit attention.

    From a business point of view, the fundraisers and directors can claim an achievement. Twenty years ago, MassMoCA looked like some misbegotten collision of leftover blue-collar socialism with quirky hippy-art idealism, in a barely heated, poorly lit wing of a barely renovated factory, apparently on a shoestring budget. Nowadays it's a destination unto itself, with tour groups, school programs, and annual membership cadres. I might not admire it, but its material success can't be denied.

    BTW, if you want to save a bundle on the overpriced entrance fees, and you are member of any local library, they usually have pairs of membership passes you can "check out" for the day. Lots of other Berkshires attractions are like this too, even much better places.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Yeah, my local library finances my museum trips. I always have a couple passes in stock because you never know when you’ll need an art appreciation fix at the MFA.

    I was with the girlfriend enjoy a break out in the Berkshires the first time I experienced MOCA. We decamped to another location an hour away for something a little less edgy and a little more satisfying.

    https://www.nrm.org/

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Brutusale

    The Norman Rockwell Museum is another place that grown by leaps and bounds in the last decades. Unfortunately, as they've prospered, they've also gotten woke, and now they tend to de-emphasize the more wholesome and traditional aspects of Rockwell and emphasize random modern SJW artists.

    There is a lesser known Rockwell Museum in Vermont that is more like the NRM was 30 years ago: obscure, cramped, inexpensive, and full of undiscovered Rockwell works.

    http://www.normanrockwellvt.com/

    May be closed for covid though. I haven't been there in a while.

  175. @Observator
    Homosexual sociopaths as evil as heterosexual sociopaths, oh my, what’s next, misogynists telling ugly stories about how wicked women are because they can’t quite figure out how to get over their mommy issues?

    Replies: @Kronos

    Yeah, but same sex sexual abuse can be heavily swept under the rug. The political optics will scare off journalists and open discussion. Cops might not want to get involved unless a human life is threatened.

    Over a decade ago, one of the strangest “documentaries” was making the rounds on the independent documentary circuit. Some independent documentaries are just bad, but this one is still the most bizarre in my book. It attempts to address the issue of lesbian rape in a journalistic manner, but the stories were “re-enacted” and has a strong pornographic feel to it. The joke was that the director wanted to cover her financial bets. If the film wasn’t profitable enough as a documentary, it could double as a lesbian domination porno. (Documentary films are the worst means of making money period. You had so many people trying to become the next Michael Moore after “ Fahrenheit 9/11” that THOUSANDS of people went straight up bankrupt.)

    • Replies: @G. Poulin
    @Kronos

    Sometimes the cops won't get involved even when a human life is threatened. Remember how one of Jeff Dahmer's victims ran out of his place, naked, screaming, and bleeding out of his ass? The cops' attitude was "Oh well, just a couple of queers doing their thing. Best get back to the donut shop."

    Replies: @AceDeuce

  176. @Mr. Anon
    @Jonathan Mason


    A bit like anti-vaxxers who cover up their fear of being penetrated with a needle with all kinds of elaborate theories about why vaccines are a bad thing and part of the patriarchy.
     
    Nobody who is anti-vax is afraid of needles, you simpering idiot. Those same people all get injections for other things. What they're afraid of is becoming like you - a slavish drone who rolls over and accepts anything his masters have in store for him, you pompous fool.

    Replies: @Chicken Fried Dinosaur, @Jonathan Mason

    Nobody who is anti-vax is afraid of needles, you simpering idiot. Those same people all get injections for other things. What they’re afraid of is becoming like you – a slavish drone who rolls over and accepts anything his masters have in store for him, you pompous fool.

    Not so fast!

    “Needle phobia” is thought to affect about 10% of people and leads to them not volunteering to donate blood, not being willing to participate in clinical trials, and avoiding entering medical professions, so it would not be surprising if those who suffer from needle phobia would be particularly sympathetic to conspiracy theory type ideas about vaccines that would make them feel that by not getting vaccinated they were somehow making a valid and unselfish protest that amounted to a contribution to human welfare and freedom.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-58086377

    https://www.vogue.com/article/covid-19-vaccine-hesitancy-fear-of-needles

    It has been reported that as many as 6 “right wing radio hosts” who had used mass media to advocate against vaccinations have died from Covid-19, with some of them allegedly repenting on their death beds.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/09/anti-vax-radio-hosts-dying-covid

    Imagine the impact if 6 Republican senators had died of Covid-19, having advocated against vaccinations.

    Of course the Republican senators, whether they admit it or not, have all been vaccinated, because they aren’t really ready to lay down their lives for their fellow men.

    There are questions, however, about other world leaders, for example Bolsanaro in Brazil who claims not to have been vaccinated, and Vladimir Putin who was not vaccinated on camera and has not revealed which vaccine he was given, possibly because the vaccine he was given was not Russia’s vaunted double-whammy Sputnik V, but some other (a dose of Pfizer donated by his friend Don, perhaps?).

    Bolsanaro has claimed that he does not need the vaccine, having already been infected with Covid-19 himself, but apparently he did not stop his wife from getting the shot on a recent visit to New York, and has now substantially reversed his position on vaccines in Brazil due to domestic pressures.

    https://time.com/5946401/brazil-covid-19-vaccines-bolsonaro/

    (Anyway, someone who gives up their free time to post ad hominem insults under a pseudonym is clearly displaying extreme anxiety about the topic under discussion–hypodermic needle phobia–, so one has to wonder why and hope that this jab does not cause too much anguish.)

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Jonathan Mason


    There are questions, however, about other world leaders, for example Bolsanaro in Brazil who claims not to have been vaccinated, and Vladimir Putin who was not vaccinated on camera and has not revealed which vaccine he was given, possibly because the vaccine he was given was not Russia’s vaunted double-whammy Sputnik V, but some other (a dose of Pfizer donated by his friend Don, perhaps?).
     
    To theorize which world leaders got which vax (if any) is an endless tar pit of conjecture. I’m sure plenty played it safe and got a fake jab and their televised injection was only saline. Also, Putin could easily have Russian intelligence gather Pfizer/Moderna/Johnson & Johnson vaccines on the down low. No special favors needed.

    https://youtu.be/rXdBo_rZ0bk
  177. @Mr. Anon
    @Chicken Fried Dinosaur


    What, you trust the medical establishment when it recommends injections in other contexts, but not this one? So you’re like, 75% obedient to your “masters,” much better than those 100% obedient peasants.
     
    Sometimes. Vitamins, anti-histamines, anti-biotics, and steroids all seem to work pretty well at what they are supposed to do. Propofol does actually knock you out prior to surgery (whether all surgeries need general anesthesia is another matter). But most importantly, all those things are voluntary. There is no mandate stipulating that you will get a shot of B-12 or vancomycin or else you will be fired. That's the difference, nitwit.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Vaccines by needles are mandatory for millions of children to be allowed to attend public schools all over and this did not seem to be a big human rights issue in elections prior to 2020.

    For example, every time a vacancy comes up on the Supreme Court, there is always a hoo-ha about whether they are believed to be for or against abortion, but I don’t remember them ever being asked about vaccinations. Perhaps that will be an issue in the future, I don’t know.

    But most importantly, all those things are voluntary. There is no mandate stipulating that you will get a shot of B-12 or vancomycin or else you will be fired. That’s the difference, nitwit.

    I think voluntary vaccination has already been tried and that vaccination mandates are a response to poor compliance, rather than the other way around, as you seem to think.

    I do understand that many people believe that vaccine mandates are some kind of deal that financially benefits drug companies, but this is not universal and not all mandated vaccines worldwide are being produced to reward shareholders.

    Of course in the US there is a widely-held and not unreasonable belief that if you do something of value to other people, then you should be allowed to profit financially from it, and so companies like Pfizer and Moderna, are probably making out like bandits by charging \$30 for two doses, but then again companies like AstraZenica and Johnson & Johnson are distributing the vaccine at cost for the duration of the pandemic, and Novavax is charging only \$4 in Africa, while Gamaleya is distributing its vaccine for free in Russia, but charging \$20 for two shots for export markets.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jonathan Mason

    Before Mr. Anon tears you to pieces, I'd remind you that the vaccine in questions (1) has been only haphazardly vetted; (2) is only haphazardly effective - a flu shot, not a polio vaccine; (3) is unnecessary for people under 45 except under odd circumstances (immuno-compromise, my 600 lb life). The people who benefit from it have received it or decided to take their chances. The risk for the vast majority is an upper respiratory tract infection of varying degrees of unpleasantness. The fatality rate for identified infections has been running around 1% for the US and 0.4% for Britain since the Delta variant hit the town.

    The vaccines you're referring to (DPT shots, measles shots, rubella shots, and polio shots) are all to prevent ailments which primarily attack children. They've all been vetted extensively; the pertussis vaccine is the dirtiest among them and you have viciously adverse reactions in about 1 child in every 300,000. Measles has an extraordinary R-o and requires nearly universal immunity to suppress. Rubella generates horrid birth defects, polio can be crippling, tetanus can be crippling, and diptheria and pertussis can be lethal. (The gp on house calls to my grandmother in 1931: "strictly separate the baby from the toddlers because if the baby gets this she'll die"). It's all about trade-offs.

    There's no good reason for the vaccine mandates or the mask mandates. Ulterior motives are at work.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Corvinus, @Jonathan Mason

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Jonathan Mason


    Vaccines by needles are mandatory for millions of children to be allowed to attend public schools all over and this did not seem to be a big human rights issue in elections prior to 2020.
     
    Lots of things are traditionally required of school children: book reports, nap-time, PE class, dodge-ball, show-and-tell, etc. I am not a schoolchild. There is no precedent for requiring them of adults. As of yet, re-education camps have not been a big issue in American elections. If, tomorrow, the Biden administration were to announce that it is establishing re-education camps, would it not be a big deal then? Would you say, well, it was never a big issue before, so what's the problem?

    This vaccine mandate is completely unprecedented.


    I think voluntary vaccination has already been tried and that vaccination mandates are a response to poor compliance, rather than the other way around, as you seem to think.
     
    You don't seem to understand the meaning of the word "voluntary". If something is "voluntary" only so long as you volunteer to do the thing being demanded of you, then it is not voluntary. Voluntary compliance is not voluntary; it is just compliance. If an armed robber sticks a gun in your face and demands your wallet and you give it to him, you are not volunteering to give him your wallet. You are being coerced.

    I do understand that many people believe that vaccine mandates are some kind of deal that financially benefits drug companies, but this is not universal and not all mandated vaccines worldwide are being produced to reward shareholders.

    Of course in the US there is a widely-held and not unreasonable belief that if you do something of value to other people, then you should be allowed to profit financially from it, and so companies like Pfizer and Moderna, are probably making out like bandits by charging $30 for two doses, but then again companies like AstraZenica and Johnson & Johnson are distributing the vaccine at cost for the duration of the pandemic, and Novavax is charging only $4 in Africa, while Gamaleya is distributing its vaccine for free in Russia, but charging $20 for two shots for export markets.
     

    Moderna and, especially, Pfeizer are making out like the bandits they are. It is of course, purely coincidental that Pfeizer donated a lot of money to the Biden campaign and other Democratic Party officials.

    https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/pfizer-inc/summary?id=D000000138

    (They donated a lot of money to the Trump campaign too, though not as much, which indicates their preference)

    And, in return, the US Government is buying hundreds of millions of doses of their vaccine. If the frozen-food business donated a lot of money to Joe Biden, could they get him to mandate that everybody had to eat US Government provided microwave dinners? Maybe Swanson should look into that.

    And they are all counting - J&J and Astro-Zeneca too - on mandated booster vaccines in perpetuity. There's your profit. J&J is a big company (unlike, for example, Moderna which has never, ever sold a single medication prior to their COVID vaccine) which can afford to furnish their shots at cost, counting on a big payoff down the road.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jonathan Mason


    companies like Pfizer and Moderna, are probably making out like bandits by charging $30 for two doses, but then again companies like AstraZenica and Johnson & Johnson are distributing the vaccine at cost for the duration of the pandemic
     
    I only got a shot because it was being given a short walk away, by an agency offering a fuel card incentive-- we were about to head for Lake Michigan and it would pay for almost half the gas needed-- and it was the Johnson & Johnson variety. They had bought a lot of good will with their handling of the Tylenol tampering scare in 1982.

    Some of these other companies disturb me, and I can't keep them straight anyway. Pfizer also helped wreck a rental car I was returning. But that's another story.
  178. @Rob
    @Almost Missouri

    Sure thing. Father Absence and Reproductive Strategy: An Evolutionary Perspective

    Regular Google gave me a “there are many good hits for your query for ‘harpending verbal mathematical SAT single "mother"’ but it was the first hit on Google Scholar. I wonder if Harpending was half-unpersonned for his “white supremacist” views. He was not a white supremacist. He just noticed when different cultures were different. Like he had a graduate degree and professorship in “the study of human cultures” or some shit. Interestingly, the censors have not gotten their claws into Google Scholar yet. Wonder how long Scholar will be available to non-academics?

    The evolution of Ashkenazi Intelligence came up. Of course, certain people are fine with realists thinking Jews are smarter than whites. It’s only believing that there are valuable things about Gentile whites that is verboten.

    Disappointing that Steve already made that “two single moms” observation I thought I was being very witty.

    Replies: @Rob

    Darn it. “There are not Many hits for your query…”

  179. @Brutusale
    @Almost Missouri

    Yeah, my local library finances my museum trips. I always have a couple passes in stock because you never know when you'll need an art appreciation fix at the MFA.

    I was with the girlfriend enjoy a break out in the Berkshires the first time I experienced MOCA. We decamped to another location an hour away for something a little less edgy and a little more satisfying.

    https://www.nrm.org/

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    The Norman Rockwell Museum is another place that grown by leaps and bounds in the last decades. Unfortunately, as they’ve prospered, they’ve also gotten woke, and now they tend to de-emphasize the more wholesome and traditional aspects of Rockwell and emphasize random modern SJW artists.

    There is a lesser known Rockwell Museum in Vermont that is more like the NRM was 30 years ago: obscure, cramped, inexpensive, and full of undiscovered Rockwell works.

    http://www.normanrockwellvt.com/

    May be closed for covid though. I haven’t been there in a while.

    • Thanks: AceDeuce
  180. While reading this, I kept getting flashbacks of two bull dykes whacking each other over their heads with dildos. Not a pretty sight. Actually, on second thoughts it might end up rivalling WWF.

  181. So, there actually might be something to the “bull dyke” label after all? Who knew?

  182. @Ed Case
    @Triteleia Laxa


    Clearly many women feel safe to hit their much stronger male partners.
     
    Domestic Violence Orders are the only way to stop a violent woman.
    Sure, she'll then leave and take the kids, but at least the violence has stopped.

    With lesbians, it's the nature if the activity that causes feelings of rage that are then acted out.
    Inserting a fist up a partners arse will eventually end in the Courts or a Mental Hospital.
    Bottom line:
    Lesbians are no different from poofters, they're only interested in absolute humiliation of the partner.

    Cops say that 1 in 3 murders involve poofters who have been or are still partners, but i've never seen this angle covered in the media.

    Replies: @Jiminy

    Women assaulting men. Tonight my wife was watching some story about the Gabby Petito case, who was reported to be terrorising her fiancé, and later found dead in her van in a park. I think a lot of female on male domestic violence goes unspoken, probably because the guy thinks that he’s going to be seen as soft. But as I said to my wife, assault is assault. And how come we have it on our screens here, but the tv stations won’t ever cover stories that show the black on white violence there in the US. It’s rarely mentioned. The truth is they don’t even know who killed the woman.

  183. @Shel100
    @Wade Hampton

    I'm not so sure about that.Hillary Clinton is thirty years older than Huma Abedin.

    Replies: @Prester John

    Huma Homina Homina Huma, identified in an article as Hillary’s, uh, “aide”, was at The Great Woman’s side as they entered the CalIrvine Hospital to see the Husband of Record.

  184. Anon[333] • Disclaimer says:

    A girl I grew up with and graduated high school with went to Mt Holyoke. During her sophomore year, she slit the throat of her lesbian girlfriend and left her to bleed to death in a bathtub. Prior to trial, the lesbian killer was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic. Court proceedings went back and forth for several years as to the lesbian killer’s competency to stand trial. I could never find a conclusion to the case.

  185. @White Guy In Japan
    @bonin41

    Some Japanese women can go stalker crazy rather quickly and in an unspoken manner. Speaking from a position of firsthand experience. Lesbianism would probably add another level of crazy.

    Replies: @Ray P, @E. Rekshun, @anon

    Japanese-born Yoko Ono always struck me as somewhat off.

    • LOL: R.G. Camara
  186. @Jonathan Mason
    @Mr. Anon

    Vaccines by needles are mandatory for millions of children to be allowed to attend public schools all over and this did not seem to be a big human rights issue in elections prior to 2020.

    For example, every time a vacancy comes up on the Supreme Court, there is always a hoo-ha about whether they are believed to be for or against abortion, but I don't remember them ever being asked about vaccinations. Perhaps that will be an issue in the future, I don't know.

    But most importantly, all those things are voluntary. There is no mandate stipulating that you will get a shot of B-12 or vancomycin or else you will be fired. That’s the difference, nitwit.


    I think voluntary vaccination has already been tried and that vaccination mandates are a response to poor compliance, rather than the other way around, as you seem to think.

    I do understand that many people believe that vaccine mandates are some kind of deal that financially benefits drug companies, but this is not universal and not all mandated vaccines worldwide are being produced to reward shareholders.

    Of course in the US there is a widely-held and not unreasonable belief that if you do something of value to other people, then you should be allowed to profit financially from it, and so companies like Pfizer and Moderna, are probably making out like bandits by charging $30 for two doses, but then again companies like AstraZenica and Johnson & Johnson are distributing the vaccine at cost for the duration of the pandemic, and Novavax is charging only $4 in Africa, while Gamaleya is distributing its vaccine for free in Russia, but charging $20 for two shots for export markets.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar

    Before Mr. Anon tears you to pieces, I’d remind you that the vaccine in questions (1) has been only haphazardly vetted; (2) is only haphazardly effective – a flu shot, not a polio vaccine; (3) is unnecessary for people under 45 except under odd circumstances (immuno-compromise, my 600 lb life). The people who benefit from it have received it or decided to take their chances. The risk for the vast majority is an upper respiratory tract infection of varying degrees of unpleasantness. The fatality rate for identified infections has been running around 1% for the US and 0.4% for Britain since the Delta variant hit the town.

    The vaccines you’re referring to (DPT shots, measles shots, rubella shots, and polio shots) are all to prevent ailments which primarily attack children. They’ve all been vetted extensively; the pertussis vaccine is the dirtiest among them and you have viciously adverse reactions in about 1 child in every 300,000. Measles has an extraordinary R-o and requires nearly universal immunity to suppress. Rubella generates horrid birth defects, polio can be crippling, tetanus can be crippling, and diptheria and pertussis can be lethal. (The gp on house calls to my grandmother in 1931: “strictly separate the baby from the toddlers because if the baby gets this she’ll die”). It’s all about trade-offs.

    There’s no good reason for the vaccine mandates or the mask mandates. Ulterior motives are at work.

    • Agree: BB753, Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Art Deco

    As the kids say: "newfound respect". I will acknowledge when I think you are right, as you are here.

    You and I have considerable differences in opinion, but you seem to be solid on this.

    , @Corvinus
    @Art Deco

    From someone you have read before…


    America's new standardized IQ test: whether you can understand that vaccines significantly *reduce* rather than *eliminate* the chance of hospitalization or death from COVID-19.

    If you can't understand this, please stay indoors. Your stupidity is literally a danger to everyone.
     
    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Art Deco


    There’s no good reason for the vaccine mandates or the mask mandates. Ulterior motives are at work.
     
    The trouble with this argument is that vaccine mandates, mask mandates, handwashing mandates, and social distancing mandates are in effect all over the world in numerous countries in all sorts of different political settings.

    Is it one small group of conspirators that is implementing the ulterior motives for the whole planet, or is it divided up into continental gangs that each have their own territory?

    I wish James Bond had not recently met his demise, because I think he was the only person who was capable of effectively dealing with these global criminals.

    I asked my doctor the other day how long he thought the pandemic would continue and he responded: "How should I know, I am not a politician!"

    This is probably the first epidemic or pandemic that has been treated primarily by politicians rather than by medical authorities, for example having politicians publicly announcing that certain drugs are politically effective in treating Covid-19.

    It could well be the start of a new long-term trend in which politicians will state which medicines they recommend for various ailments in presidential hustings and debates, and drugs will be approved by the Supreme Court, rather than the old-fashioned way of leaving it mainly to the medical profession to do the research and conduct trials to see if drugs are effective before the manufacturers submit them to the FDA.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Mr. Anon

  187. @Mike Tre
    "If so, why are lesbians so violent toward each other? "

    That's a good question. A follow up question is how does that question reconcile with the long held isteve notion that masculinity and testosterone cause unchecked violence and aggression?

    "Self-identifying lesbians appear to be fading away numerically as young women of the sapphic persuasion are increasingly persuaded to declare themselves males and take male hormones."

    Considering your theory of high-t levels causing men to want to transition to be women, so is it then high estrogen levels that cause women to want to become men?

    Or maybe, just maybe.. hormones (naturally produced, anyway) have very little do do with the process that leads to people deciding that they're really a member of the opposite sex.

    Replies: @Sternhammer, @Bill Jones, @Alternate History

    “If so, why are lesbians so violent toward each other? ”

    That’s a good question

    Perhaps it’s not just lesbians.
    Perhaps women are much more violent than they’re given credit for and men just shrug it off.

    The two primary reasons for the discounting by men would be that A. They hit like children- despite decades of 90 lb teenagers beating up linebackers on TV, women just don’t know how to hit, and B. I think most men would be ashamed of admitting that being hit by a woman caused so much pain that it was worthy of comment.

    • Replies: @mmack
    @Bill Jones

    Or C: Men know that calling the police on a real domestic violence case between a man and a woman would result in:

    1) Both partners being arrested and taken in for questioning.
    2) You the man being arrested and taken in for questioning.

    Even if your little sweetie pie started it.

    "The way to fight a woman is with your hat. Grab it and run." - John Barrymore.

  188. @BB753
    I used to lurk in a militant lesbian forum. ( For research purposes, lol!). Whenever the issue of domestic violence came up, lesbians never denied the reality of the situation or data. But they agreed on keeping quiet publicly for PR reasons.
    Indeed, lesbian relationships tend to be "toxic" and abusive. And the most dominant physically half of the couple is usually promiscuous and/ or jealous. As in male homo couples, there's always a bottom and a top, in this case a more butch lesbian and a more "femme " partner, by their standards of course.
    Believe me, I know a lot about lesbians, having shared an apartment with one for two years, and six months with a lesbian couple. I was young, I was broke, and I thought that I could turn them, lol!

    Replies: @Muggles

    Believe me, I know a lot about lesbians, having shared an apartment with one for two years, and six months with a lesbian couple. I was young, I was broke, and I thought that I could turn them, lol!

    Sounds like a good premise for a modern horror movie.

    Maybe in a few more years…

    • LOL: BB753
    • Replies: @BB753
    @Muggles

    Lesbians are terribly boring. They have all the defects of both sexes but none of the virtues.

  189. @Anon7
    Studies which I can’t seem to find from the UK say that partner-on-partner violence is the worst for lesbian couples. Much worse than hetero or even gay partners. Also, among lesbians it’s more likely that both partners have been abusive and violent.

    Among the lesbian women, if there is a very feminine partner, she doesn’t mind some attention from men; obviously not sexual attention.

    In my limited but actual experience, lesbians really don’t like men. They see themselves as apart, and are happiest to be themselves with their own. If the wokesters try to push guys with frocks as being femme or lesbian, the actual lesbians will just refuse.

    The gay men I’ve known are much friendlier, but still apart. The problem arises mostly when they encourage heterosexuals to think that gay marriage is just like hetero marriage. It’s not. Don’t forget that about ten percent of married hetero couples are ok with sex partners outside of marriage, whereas two-thirds of gay couples are ok with additional sex partners. And since gay men often want to adopt, this raises the problem of aggressive males coming into the “family” environment, which also is a terrible problem for single mother households and their minor age children.

    Replies: @Muggles

    In my limited but actual experience, lesbians really don’t like men.

    While I can’t really generalize, when in my late college years I went to a hair cutter whose shop morphed from being mixed (gay/non gay) in the gay area, to one that became run by lesbians.

    My cutter, around my age, was obviously lesbian but not butch. After a few months I was “asked” not to return again, given no reason.

    Obviously my cutter was told to ditch me as a customer. I wasn’t a gay male so I became verboten.

    I didn’t like this (nor the absence of an honest reason given) but I also believe in personal choice.

  190. @Jonathan Mason
    @Mr. Anon


    Nobody who is anti-vax is afraid of needles, you simpering idiot. Those same people all get injections for other things. What they’re afraid of is becoming like you – a slavish drone who rolls over and accepts anything his masters have in store for him, you pompous fool.

     

    Not so fast!

    "Needle phobia" is thought to affect about 10% of people and leads to them not volunteering to donate blood, not being willing to participate in clinical trials, and avoiding entering medical professions, so it would not be surprising if those who suffer from needle phobia would be particularly sympathetic to conspiracy theory type ideas about vaccines that would make them feel that by not getting vaccinated they were somehow making a valid and unselfish protest that amounted to a contribution to human welfare and freedom.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-58086377

    https://www.vogue.com/article/covid-19-vaccine-hesitancy-fear-of-needles

    It has been reported that as many as 6 "right wing radio hosts" who had used mass media to advocate against vaccinations have died from Covid-19, with some of them allegedly repenting on their death beds.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/09/anti-vax-radio-hosts-dying-covid

    Imagine the impact if 6 Republican senators had died of Covid-19, having advocated against vaccinations.

    Of course the Republican senators, whether they admit it or not, have all been vaccinated, because they aren't really ready to lay down their lives for their fellow men.

    There are questions, however, about other world leaders, for example Bolsanaro in Brazil who claims not to have been vaccinated, and Vladimir Putin who was not vaccinated on camera and has not revealed which vaccine he was given, possibly because the vaccine he was given was not Russia's vaunted double-whammy Sputnik V, but some other (a dose of Pfizer donated by his friend Don, perhaps?).

    Bolsanaro has claimed that he does not need the vaccine, having already been infected with Covid-19 himself, but apparently he did not stop his wife from getting the shot on a recent visit to New York, and has now substantially reversed his position on vaccines in Brazil due to domestic pressures.

    https://time.com/5946401/brazil-covid-19-vaccines-bolsonaro/

    (Anyway, someone who gives up their free time to post ad hominem insults under a pseudonym is clearly displaying extreme anxiety about the topic under discussion--hypodermic needle phobia--, so one has to wonder why and hope that this jab does not cause too much anguish.)

    Replies: @Kronos

    There are questions, however, about other world leaders, for example Bolsanaro in Brazil who claims not to have been vaccinated, and Vladimir Putin who was not vaccinated on camera and has not revealed which vaccine he was given, possibly because the vaccine he was given was not Russia’s vaunted double-whammy Sputnik V, but some other (a dose of Pfizer donated by his friend Don, perhaps?).

    To theorize which world leaders got which vax (if any) is an endless tar pit of conjecture. I’m sure plenty played it safe and got a fake jab and their televised injection was only saline. Also, Putin could easily have Russian intelligence gather Pfizer/Moderna/Johnson & Johnson vaccines on the down low. No special favors needed.

  191. Uh, this is too much “information” for me. lol

  192. @Jonathan Mason
    @Mr. Anon

    Vaccines by needles are mandatory for millions of children to be allowed to attend public schools all over and this did not seem to be a big human rights issue in elections prior to 2020.

    For example, every time a vacancy comes up on the Supreme Court, there is always a hoo-ha about whether they are believed to be for or against abortion, but I don't remember them ever being asked about vaccinations. Perhaps that will be an issue in the future, I don't know.

    But most importantly, all those things are voluntary. There is no mandate stipulating that you will get a shot of B-12 or vancomycin or else you will be fired. That’s the difference, nitwit.


    I think voluntary vaccination has already been tried and that vaccination mandates are a response to poor compliance, rather than the other way around, as you seem to think.

    I do understand that many people believe that vaccine mandates are some kind of deal that financially benefits drug companies, but this is not universal and not all mandated vaccines worldwide are being produced to reward shareholders.

    Of course in the US there is a widely-held and not unreasonable belief that if you do something of value to other people, then you should be allowed to profit financially from it, and so companies like Pfizer and Moderna, are probably making out like bandits by charging $30 for two doses, but then again companies like AstraZenica and Johnson & Johnson are distributing the vaccine at cost for the duration of the pandemic, and Novavax is charging only $4 in Africa, while Gamaleya is distributing its vaccine for free in Russia, but charging $20 for two shots for export markets.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar

    Vaccines by needles are mandatory for millions of children to be allowed to attend public schools all over and this did not seem to be a big human rights issue in elections prior to 2020.

    Lots of things are traditionally required of school children: book reports, nap-time, PE class, dodge-ball, show-and-tell, etc. I am not a schoolchild. There is no precedent for requiring them of adults. As of yet, re-education camps have not been a big issue in American elections. If, tomorrow, the Biden administration were to announce that it is establishing re-education camps, would it not be a big deal then? Would you say, well, it was never a big issue before, so what’s the problem?

    This vaccine mandate is completely unprecedented.

    I think voluntary vaccination has already been tried and that vaccination mandates are a response to poor compliance, rather than the other way around, as you seem to think.

    You don’t seem to understand the meaning of the word “voluntary”. If something is “voluntary” only so long as you volunteer to do the thing being demanded of you, then it is not voluntary. Voluntary compliance is not voluntary; it is just compliance. If an armed robber sticks a gun in your face and demands your wallet and you give it to him, you are not volunteering to give him your wallet. You are being coerced.

    I do understand that many people believe that vaccine mandates are some kind of deal that financially benefits drug companies, but this is not universal and not all mandated vaccines worldwide are being produced to reward shareholders.

    Of course in the US there is a widely-held and not unreasonable belief that if you do something of value to other people, then you should be allowed to profit financially from it, and so companies like Pfizer and Moderna, are probably making out like bandits by charging \$30 for two doses, but then again companies like AstraZenica and Johnson & Johnson are distributing the vaccine at cost for the duration of the pandemic, and Novavax is charging only \$4 in Africa, while Gamaleya is distributing its vaccine for free in Russia, but charging \$20 for two shots for export markets.

    Moderna and, especially, Pfeizer are making out like the bandits they are. It is of course, purely coincidental that Pfeizer donated a lot of money to the Biden campaign and other Democratic Party officials.

    https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/pfizer-inc/summary?id=D000000138

    (They donated a lot of money to the Trump campaign too, though not as much, which indicates their preference)

    And, in return, the US Government is buying hundreds of millions of doses of their vaccine. If the frozen-food business donated a lot of money to Joe Biden, could they get him to mandate that everybody had to eat US Government provided microwave dinners? Maybe Swanson should look into that.

    And they are all counting – J&J and Astro-Zeneca too – on mandated booster vaccines in perpetuity. There’s your profit. J&J is a big company (unlike, for example, Moderna which has never, ever sold a single medication prior to their COVID vaccine) which can afford to furnish their shots at cost, counting on a big payoff down the road.

    • Agree: Clyde
  193. @Art Deco
    @Jonathan Mason

    Before Mr. Anon tears you to pieces, I'd remind you that the vaccine in questions (1) has been only haphazardly vetted; (2) is only haphazardly effective - a flu shot, not a polio vaccine; (3) is unnecessary for people under 45 except under odd circumstances (immuno-compromise, my 600 lb life). The people who benefit from it have received it or decided to take their chances. The risk for the vast majority is an upper respiratory tract infection of varying degrees of unpleasantness. The fatality rate for identified infections has been running around 1% for the US and 0.4% for Britain since the Delta variant hit the town.

    The vaccines you're referring to (DPT shots, measles shots, rubella shots, and polio shots) are all to prevent ailments which primarily attack children. They've all been vetted extensively; the pertussis vaccine is the dirtiest among them and you have viciously adverse reactions in about 1 child in every 300,000. Measles has an extraordinary R-o and requires nearly universal immunity to suppress. Rubella generates horrid birth defects, polio can be crippling, tetanus can be crippling, and diptheria and pertussis can be lethal. (The gp on house calls to my grandmother in 1931: "strictly separate the baby from the toddlers because if the baby gets this she'll die"). It's all about trade-offs.

    There's no good reason for the vaccine mandates or the mask mandates. Ulterior motives are at work.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Corvinus, @Jonathan Mason

    As the kids say: “newfound respect”. I will acknowledge when I think you are right, as you are here.

    You and I have considerable differences in opinion, but you seem to be solid on this.

    • LOL: Old Brown Fool
  194. Professor Hachiyanagi is from Sapporo, Japan and is a professor of art at Mount Holyoke,

    Those artsy fartsy people are a different breed. A long time ago a cop I knew at the time told me about a fight between two lesbians that he was called to break up. He said they were actually attractive somewhat younger ladies but scratched each others faces up and even pulled out some hair in each other. It sounded like a vicious love spat.

    I always picture short haired mannish looking dykes but that’s not always the case.

    He told me that lesbians have ferocious fights. Lesbians usually seem like very unhappy people so it’s not true that an alternative lifestyle is the answer to a woman’s woes. Some lesbians are so unattractive that they can’t attract any man.

  195. @Kronos
    @Observator

    Yeah, but same sex sexual abuse can be heavily swept under the rug. The political optics will scare off journalists and open discussion. Cops might not want to get involved unless a human life is threatened.

    Over a decade ago, one of the strangest “documentaries” was making the rounds on the independent documentary circuit. Some independent documentaries are just bad, but this one is still the most bizarre in my book. It attempts to address the issue of lesbian rape in a journalistic manner, but the stories were “re-enacted” and has a strong pornographic feel to it. The joke was that the director wanted to cover her financial bets. If the film wasn’t profitable enough as a documentary, it could double as a lesbian domination porno. (Documentary films are the worst means of making money period. You had so many people trying to become the next Michael Moore after “ Fahrenheit 9/11” that THOUSANDS of people went straight up bankrupt.)


    https://www.amazon.com/She-Stole-Voice-Documentary-Uncensored/dp/B000YEBL64

    Replies: @G. Poulin

    Sometimes the cops won’t get involved even when a human life is threatened. Remember how one of Jeff Dahmer’s victims ran out of his place, naked, screaming, and bleeding out of his ass? The cops’ attitude was “Oh well, just a couple of queers doing their thing. Best get back to the donut shop.”

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @G. Poulin

    Yeah, that incident didn't happen that way. Not even close.

  196. @Old and Grumpy
    When I read the story, I found it more interesting that it was one about women of Asian descent. Our culture is truly a form of cancer. As for lesbians being more violent, no clue. If they are, it is likely due to PMSing at the same time.

    Replies: @JMcG

    The only thing I remember about seeing The Last Emperor in the movie theater is that there were a couple of hot Chinese lesbians in it.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @JMcG

    The only thing I remember about seeing The Last Emperor in the movie theater is that there were a couple of hot Chinese lesbians in it.

    Give Amazon Prime's The Handmaiden a try. It'll give you something else to remember.

  197. @Old Brown Fool
    After accusing and abusing men for domestic violence, for the past so many decades, it is ironic that lesbian "couples" are also equally violent. So may I conclude the violence arises not from the gender of the husband but by the roles played?

    Replies: @JMcG

    Is the women’s World Cup like the Super Bowl for lesbian domestic violence?

    • LOL: kaganovitch
  198. anon[410] • Disclaimer says:
    @White Guy In Japan
    @bonin41

    Some Japanese women can go stalker crazy rather quickly and in an unspoken manner. Speaking from a position of firsthand experience. Lesbianism would probably add another level of crazy.

    Replies: @Ray P, @E. Rekshun, @anon

    I have dated three Japanese girls

    One dumped me for a wannabe MMA fighter and got him and his friends to threaten me with destruction if I even looked at her again. The experience was harrowing . Though it turned out fine as he knocked her up , got charged with assaulting her and did jail time. She’s a single mom living with her parents

    The next one stalked me. She would sneak into my apartment building and sit outside my apt in the hall. That had a messy, but not horrible ending

    The third had an affair with a sleazy Arab who wanted nothing to do with her. We had a temporary breakup when she met him and kept it up when we got back together

    They were all cute but three strikes and you’re out No more J girls. They’re psycho or at least the ones I meet are

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @anon

    LOL. Here's one that you missed:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sada_Abe

    , @kaganovitch
    @anon

    The third had an affair with a sleazy Arab who wanted nothing to do with her. We had a temporary breakup when she met him and kept it up when we got back together

    It's probably me, but I have no idea what either of these sentences mean. If the Arab wanted nothing to do with her how is it they had an affair? What is the 'it' in "kept it up" referring to? From the sentence structure it sounds like the 'it' is the "temporary breakup", but then how can you be said to have gotten back together ? Schrodinger's breakup? Please advise.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @anon

    , @R.G. Camara
    @anon


    Though it turned out fine as he knocked her up , got charged with assaulting her and did jail time. She’s a single mom living with her parents

     

    Was this an American-Japanese girl or a Japanese girl -in-Japan? I've heard the latter are very quick to get abortions whenever they get an undesired pregnancy, which is to be expected in a population that is largely secular and non-religious. In Japan, I've especially heard single motherhood is rare and that Japanese women will be extremely quick to abort any black children they might have.

    Replies: @anon

    , @Anon
    @anon


    I have dated three Japanese girls
     
    Wow, you were really unlucky. I can only assume that you don't speak much Japanese and were dating English-speaking, foreigner-loving, "yellow-cab" types. Spend a year in a Japanese school in Japan and then try meeting some normal girls (your own age). If you have a career-type job, you should be able to attract nice Japanese girls. If you're a shiftless, odd-jobbing, backpacker type you still may have problems.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_cab_%28stereotype%29

    Replies: @anon

  199. @HammerJack
    @Reg Cæsar


    You’ve become so comfortable, that one (or both of you) gained weight. Like a lot of weight.
     
    This is the Lesbian Credo, I believe. It's the natural corollary of:

    A World Without Men? It would be full of fat, happy women!
     
    The typical solution is to gain weight carefully in tandem, and as quickly as possible. And as much as possible.

    Even Florence King was trying to hide behind those roses, and she wasn't fooling anyone. Like those old Mamas and Papas album covers, where they did their best to hide Mama Cass's girth, and it was just never enough. But I digress.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @AnotherDad, @Known Fact, @Reg Cæsar

    Like those old Mamas and Papas album covers, where they did their best to hide Mama Cass’s girth

    It’s been claimed that the line “no one’s gettin’ fat ‘cept Mama Cass” actually refers to her making good money singing at bar mitzvahs while the rest of the group was starving. I find this easier to believe than the common assumption, especially since she sang it on stage without cringing.

    But then, I think Puff was a dragon, the yellow submarine was a watercraft, Lucy was Julian’s schoolmate, “Brand New Key” was about roller skates, and “Blinded By the Light” referenced an item in the garage, not the medicine cabinet. And it’s never made clear which sex Lola is. So maybe I’m hopelessly naïve.

    • Replies: @acementhead
    @Reg Cæsar


    And it’s never made clear which sex Lola is.
     
    I think, although it’s not spelled-out, that Lola is most likely a woman, as hir fingers seem to be much too nimble(to me) for hir to be male.

    But you be the judge

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYlyqvmzv30

    In case that’s not convincing try the below

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m0dGs200uQ&list=TLPQMTMxMDIwMjEymhpeaDKH3A&index=7

  200. @Stick
    @Charles Pewitt

    My father always used Carnation evaporated milk in his coffee. I use Half and Half. We are from NC and VA, respectively.

    Replies: @Jiminy, @Bill P

    Could be worse. When I run out of milk I have at times resorted to using tinned condensed milk in my coffee. But the result is either too sickly sweet or not milky enough. And once I finish the cup I remind myself never to do that again for another year. My dad on the other hand used to eat the stuff straight from the tin. So for a prank my wife bought him a massive caterers tin of condensed milk. He needed both hands to hold it as he guzzled it. Toxic.

  201. @JMcG
    @Old and Grumpy

    The only thing I remember about seeing The Last Emperor in the movie theater is that there were a couple of hot Chinese lesbians in it.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    The only thing I remember about seeing The Last Emperor in the movie theater is that there were a couple of hot Chinese lesbians in it.

    Give Amazon Prime’s The Handmaiden a try. It’ll give you something else to remember.

  202. @G. Poulin
    @Kronos

    Sometimes the cops won't get involved even when a human life is threatened. Remember how one of Jeff Dahmer's victims ran out of his place, naked, screaming, and bleeding out of his ass? The cops' attitude was "Oh well, just a couple of queers doing their thing. Best get back to the donut shop."

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    Yeah, that incident didn’t happen that way. Not even close.

  203. @anon
    @White Guy In Japan

    I have dated three Japanese girls

    One dumped me for a wannabe MMA fighter and got him and his friends to threaten me with destruction if I even looked at her again. The experience was harrowing . Though it turned out fine as he knocked her up , got charged with assaulting her and did jail time. She's a single mom living with her parents

    The next one stalked me. She would sneak into my apartment building and sit outside my apt in the hall. That had a messy, but not horrible ending

    The third had an affair with a sleazy Arab who wanted nothing to do with her. We had a temporary breakup when she met him and kept it up when we got back together

    They were all cute but three strikes and you're out No more J girls. They're psycho or at least the ones I meet are

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @kaganovitch, @R.G. Camara, @Anon

    LOL. Here’s one that you missed:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sada_Abe

  204. @anon
    @White Guy In Japan

    I have dated three Japanese girls

    One dumped me for a wannabe MMA fighter and got him and his friends to threaten me with destruction if I even looked at her again. The experience was harrowing . Though it turned out fine as he knocked her up , got charged with assaulting her and did jail time. She's a single mom living with her parents

    The next one stalked me. She would sneak into my apartment building and sit outside my apt in the hall. That had a messy, but not horrible ending

    The third had an affair with a sleazy Arab who wanted nothing to do with her. We had a temporary breakup when she met him and kept it up when we got back together

    They were all cute but three strikes and you're out No more J girls. They're psycho or at least the ones I meet are

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @kaganovitch, @R.G. Camara, @Anon

    The third had an affair with a sleazy Arab who wanted nothing to do with her. We had a temporary breakup when she met him and kept it up when we got back together

    It’s probably me, but I have no idea what either of these sentences mean. If the Arab wanted nothing to do with her how is it they had an affair? What is the ‘it’ in “kept it up” referring to? From the sentence structure it sounds like the ‘it’ is the “temporary breakup”, but then how can you be said to have gotten back together ? Schrodinger’s breakup? Please advise.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @kaganovitch

    Anon and Slutty J-Girl were dating.

    The two "went on a break" Ross & Rachel style.

    During the break, Slutty J-Girl hooked up with an Arab who only wanted her for an easy lay but nothing else.

    Slutty J-Girl got back with Anon but kept sleeping with the Arab on the sly, hoping to get Arab to want to date her.

    Hope that helps.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    , @anon
    @kaganovitch

    I was dating her for about 9 months. I broke up with her- the exotic thing had worn off by then

    Somehow, about two months later we were back together. We actually went on a vacation together a month later She left her email open and I saw all these messages form this guy. She had started screwing him from a few weeks after we initially broke up till the present. She screwed him two days before we left on vacation

    She met the Arab because he was advertising himself as an ESL tutor. He was married and feeding her BS about he loved her but couldn't leave his wife.

    I couldn't believe how she believed this bullshit , probably partly because of limited English and partly being gullible. He also was short and ugly and had no job.

    She was sorry , but I couldn't take her back. I didn't want to compete with a low-quality guy for her affections. I really looked down on her for finding that guy attractive in any way and also liking a guy who was BSing her. I also find it hard to have sex with a girl who has a sleazy guy in her. Also, from experience, you can't take her a girl back after has cheated- she will look at you as weak for taking her back

    I still find Japanese culture and history interesting but steer clear of the women

  205. @R.G. Camara
    Besides being unnatural and degenerate relationships -- which will naturally lead to poisonous, dangerous behavior, as we can see in any gay male relationship -- there is also the female/female dynamic that leads lesbians to commit a lot of abuse.

    Men define attraction by the physical. Men are first and foremost attracted to a body, and then by how much sex he can get out of that body. This is why gay men have so much sex with so many partners -- because, freed of female lower sex drives, they are all about the orgasm, and in fact have so much their sexual wildlife creates new diseases and horrid infections.

    Women, in contrast, define attraction by the emotional drama. Women are first and foremost attracted by the emotion of the moment, and then by how much they can continue an emotional rollercoaster off that moment. When a woman gets bored with a lover, however, the ride grinds to a halt. Women crave drama -- witness any female-oriented show, and its a constant swoon of emotional drama, wildly shifting from happiness to sadness to anger to crying, all within the same episode. For example, the TV show Grey's Anatomy has, over nearly 20 years, perfected the art of keeping women viewers emotionally off balance enough to be hooked to keep it running -- Shonda Rimes does not get nearly enough credit for that modern TV miracle.

    In a male/female relationship, the female preference for drama is balanced by the male desire to get rid of the drama and work for sex (or at least peace).

    This female emphasis on drama means in a lesbian relationship, you don't just get one party deliberately picking fights and trying to manipulate the other side with emotion and trying to create drama, you get a duel between two sides -- each trying to out drama the other. As one bisexual woman (who had sworn off women) told me: "With a man, I come home, and I only get one of two emotions: content or upset, and most of the time its content. With a woman, I come home, and i get one of a hundred emotions that constantly shift, and I never know what its going to be. It's exhausting."

    So lesbians are constantly in a dueling psychodrama of manipulation and drama creation--and manipulation and drama creation are also called abuse. Eventually, the emotional abuse leads to physical abuse unless the relationship ends -- and even after, because Hades hath no fury like a woman scorned. When you're constantly one-upping the drama because you enjoy the drama, and your partner/opponent is too, sooner or later you're going to get the drama and emotion so high that radical insane emotions create severe physical altercations. You can't get two people topping each other to a 10 emotionally every night without something giving and someone lashing out physically.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Men define attraction by the physical. Men are first and foremost attracted to a body, and then by how much sex he can get out of that body.

    I think you mean “boys”. Men are those that have grown out of that stage.

    • Troll: R.G. Camara
    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @Reg Cæsar

    Oh yeah. I forgot how *men* always say "Man, look at the brains on that one." (/sarcasm)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Obstinate Cymric
    @Reg Cæsar

    "Men are those that have grown out of that stage."

    Do you think so? While you can love and honour the wife of your bosom and mother of your children, you can still be stuck in that stage as well. I know I am.

    If you mean attraction as you grow older (say, late 20s) isn't entirely, 100% physical, I agree. One of the attractions of the girl I married was that she obviously liked babies and children.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  206. @Reg Cæsar
    @R.G. Camara


    Men define attraction by the physical. Men are first and foremost attracted to a body, and then by how much sex he can get out of that body.
     
    I think you mean "boys". Men are those that have grown out of that stage.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Obstinate Cymric

    Oh yeah. I forgot how *men* always say “Man, look at the brains on that one.” (/sarcasm)

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @R.G. Camara

    I'm trying to imagine George wooing the slightly older widow and mother of two Martha 263 years ago for "how much sex he can get out of that body". Which was mostly covered up by petticoats and flowing skirts.

    Others have a different view of his motives, but you know best.


    https://npg.si.edu/blog/january-6-1759-george-and-martha-washington-tie-knot


    (Yes, the late "insurrection" occurred on their anniversary. Quite fitting-- an epiphany, if you will.)

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

  207. @kaganovitch
    @anon

    The third had an affair with a sleazy Arab who wanted nothing to do with her. We had a temporary breakup when she met him and kept it up when we got back together

    It's probably me, but I have no idea what either of these sentences mean. If the Arab wanted nothing to do with her how is it they had an affair? What is the 'it' in "kept it up" referring to? From the sentence structure it sounds like the 'it' is the "temporary breakup", but then how can you be said to have gotten back together ? Schrodinger's breakup? Please advise.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @anon

    Anon and Slutty J-Girl were dating.

    The two “went on a break” Ross & Rachel style.

    During the break, Slutty J-Girl hooked up with an Arab who only wanted her for an easy lay but nothing else.

    Slutty J-Girl got back with Anon but kept sleeping with the Arab on the sly, hoping to get Arab to want to date her.

    Hope that helps.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @R.G. Camara

    It does indeed, thanks.

  208. @anon
    @White Guy In Japan

    I have dated three Japanese girls

    One dumped me for a wannabe MMA fighter and got him and his friends to threaten me with destruction if I even looked at her again. The experience was harrowing . Though it turned out fine as he knocked her up , got charged with assaulting her and did jail time. She's a single mom living with her parents

    The next one stalked me. She would sneak into my apartment building and sit outside my apt in the hall. That had a messy, but not horrible ending

    The third had an affair with a sleazy Arab who wanted nothing to do with her. We had a temporary breakup when she met him and kept it up when we got back together

    They were all cute but three strikes and you're out No more J girls. They're psycho or at least the ones I meet are

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @kaganovitch, @R.G. Camara, @Anon

    Though it turned out fine as he knocked her up , got charged with assaulting her and did jail time. She’s a single mom living with her parents

    Was this an American-Japanese girl or a Japanese girl -in-Japan? I’ve heard the latter are very quick to get abortions whenever they get an undesired pregnancy, which is to be expected in a population that is largely secular and non-religious. In Japan, I’ve especially heard single motherhood is rare and that Japanese women will be extremely quick to abort any black children they might have.

    • Replies: @anon
    @R.G. Camara

    This was a Japanese girl on student/holiday visa in Canada. Japanese can get a visa here for a
    couple of years to work, go to school or just hang out

    I have a friend who works for a Japanese company. His Japanese boss won't hire girls on this visa.
    Two of the types with this visa are

    1) Wild Child girls from well-to-do- families. Parents don't know what to do with them so they ship them abroad for a while

    2) Girls Japanese men don't want , so they go abroad to find husbands

    I found both types

    I don't know why the baby in question wasn't aborted or even where the baby was born

  209. @Bill Jones
    @Mike Tre


    “If so, why are lesbians so violent toward each other? ”

    That’s a good question
     
    Perhaps it's not just lesbians.
    Perhaps women are much more violent than they're given credit for and men just shrug it off.

    The two primary reasons for the discounting by men would be that A. They hit like children- despite decades of 90 lb teenagers beating up linebackers on TV, women just don't know how to hit, and B. I think most men would be ashamed of admitting that being hit by a woman caused so much pain that it was worthy of comment.

    Replies: @mmack

    Or C: Men know that calling the police on a real domestic violence case between a man and a woman would result in:

    1) Both partners being arrested and taken in for questioning.
    2) You the man being arrested and taken in for questioning.

    Even if your little sweetie pie started it.

    “The way to fight a woman is with your hat. Grab it and run.” – John Barrymore.

  210. @Nicholas Stix
    "The better known one is NYPD policewoman Yvonne Wu murdering her ex-girlfriend in a lesbian love triangle."

    Actually, police person Wu murdered her ex-GF's new love (Jamie Liang), by shooting her several times in the chest at point-blank range. Liang was probably dead before she hit the floor.

    Wu only shot her ex (Jenny Li) once in the gut, presumably because Wu wanted to give her the chance to come crawling back to her.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Rahan

    Asian Lesbian Police Love Triangle Murder!!!!

    Ah, remember when this was trashy pulp fiction or sleazy exploitation film instead of banal reality.

    Way, way back before kid trannies and mandatory injections.

  211. Anonymous[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri
    @Gaius Gracchus

    I knew an old veteran US Army officer who had married a German lady. He told me they were vacationing on a North Sea island when she was very pregnant. She went into labor and the officer called the sole doctor on the island to come quick, his wife was about to deliver their baby! But the doctor demurred. "I've worked on this island my entire life, and no baby has ever been born at ebb tide", he said. The officer protested but the doctor was firm: he wouldn't bother coming until the tide came in.

    This was in the immediate aftermath of WWII, when the occupying militaries had been known to kill local Germans "accidentally" without bearing any responsibility for it. So for the doctor to defy a US officer who was already overwrought at the impending birth of his first child, on this remote island, was to take his life into his hands. But the doctor stood firm, ... and, as it turned out, so did the baby. A few hours later, the tide, the doctor, and the baby all arrived together.

    Now maybe I've misremembered a detail or two. It might have been a Baltic Sea island instead of a North Sea island. Or maybe it was high tide instead of ebb tide. But the main point remains: the experience of an intelligent, educated, and professional man was so dispositive that he was willing to bet his life that no baby would be born on the wrong side of the moon/tide cycle. That oughta count for something.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    The Baltic Sea is itself too small to have its own significant tides, and it has too narrow an opening to the North Sea to be influenced by the North Atlantic tides. The total tidal effect is only a few centimetres. Tidal waves from Kattegat through the Sound contribute a few centimetres of tide in the Southern Baltic.2 Jun 2010
    Like the Mediterranean there are no significant tides in the Baltic.

  212. One dumped me for a wannabe MMA fighter and got him and his friends to threaten me with destruction if I even looked at her again. The experience was harrowing . Though it turned out fine as he knocked her up , got charged with assaulting her and did jail time. She’s a single mom living with her parents

    The next one stalked me. She would sneak into my apartment building and sit outside my apt in the hall. That had a messy, but not horrible ending

    The third had an affair with a sleazy Arab who wanted nothing to do with her. We had a temporary breakup when she met him and kept it up when we got back together

    Sounds like three generic Eastern European girls, especially provincials who’ve come to the big city and their psyches implode.

    One will get thugs to threaten you or beat you up, one will stalk you after you share a couple of laughs or god forbid some groping, and one will bang sleazy darkies on the side just “to feel wanted”.

    Choose at random any Russian, Ukrainian, Serbian, or Georgian city, go there, all this will be happening constantly until you find a reasonably sane woman. But she’ll be either pre-crazy and aged 15, or post-crazy and aged 40. And that one will only be post-crazy until pre-menopause kicks in.

  213. @Stick
    @Charles Pewitt

    My father always used Carnation evaporated milk in his coffee. I use Half and Half. We are from NC and VA, respectively.

    Replies: @Jiminy, @Bill P

    My friend just helped renovate the Carnation estate. I always thought it was just a local company when I was a kid. We used to get little Carnation milk cartons with our lunch back in the 80s.

    My kids get Edaleen. Good stuff. When the border reopens Canadians will once again come in droves for milk and gas.

  214. @Reg Cæsar
    @R.G. Camara


    Men define attraction by the physical. Men are first and foremost attracted to a body, and then by how much sex he can get out of that body.
     
    I think you mean "boys". Men are those that have grown out of that stage.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Obstinate Cymric

    “Men are those that have grown out of that stage.”

    Do you think so? While you can love and honour the wife of your bosom and mother of your children, you can still be stuck in that stage as well. I know I am.

    If you mean attraction as you grow older (say, late 20s) isn’t entirely, 100% physical, I agree. One of the attractions of the girl I married was that she obviously liked babies and children.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Obstinate Cymric


    While you can love and honour the wife of your bosom and mother of your children, you can still be stuck in that stage as well. I know I am.
     
    It's a matter of perspective. The youthful desires recede, not disappear, with maturity. Other priorities come to the forever. In Mr Camara Obscura's Oliver Reed worldview, it's caveman lust and nothing else.

    Obstinate Cymric says:

     

    I'd challenge him to a bet, evan odds, put it on a cardiff necessary, but am afraid he'd welsh. He's no angel,sey. I try to deal caerphilly, so as not to megan error, leek cash, and go pembroke. It's a rhyl risk, given that he hasn't a rarebit of sense. Conwy agree on that much?

    Replies: @Obstinate Cymric

  215. @Muggles
    @BB753


    Believe me, I know a lot about lesbians, having shared an apartment with one for two years, and six months with a lesbian couple. I was young, I was broke, and I thought that I could turn them, lol!
     
    Sounds like a good premise for a modern horror movie.

    Maybe in a few more years...

    Replies: @BB753

    Lesbians are terribly boring. They have all the defects of both sexes but none of the virtues.

  216. @Almost Missouri
    @Rob

    Agree, and ...


    I’ll try to [f]ind it if anyone reads my comments this far down.
     
    ... I read that far and I'll trade you for Steve making the same point exactly eight years ago:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/a-lotta-drama-lotta-instability-not/

    Bonus: includes a high-n study showing the same thing pre-Great Awokening. Of course it is now forbidden knowledge.

    Replies: @Rob, @Sam Malone

    It’s interesting, like being a time traveler, to read the comments in that old Steve piece – from exactly 8 years ago almost to the day! – and see a snapshot of who some of the commenters were at the time. There are the ones you have no memory of, the ones whose names you vaguely recall but who don’t show up much or at all anymore, and the ones (the few, it seems) who are still around and kicking. And you realize some things that you hadn’t realized before – like that Another Dad was apparently a regular here as long as 8 years ago. I would have put him at showing up here maybe 5 or so years ago.

    Which in turn makes you realize how fuzzy your memories get over time.

    Like how seeing a mention here sometimes of an old Steve article will make me realize how fast time has flown – I’ll have an actual memory of reading the piece in question (maybe vague, but still a recollection of Steve making that point and a rough idea of where I was in my job or life at the time I first read it) and then see the article’s date: 10 years ago instead of the four it feels like, or 15 years ago instead of the 7 or 8 it surely must be. And then you realize how much of your life has already gone by, and how much of it you spent reading stuff here. I wonder if the last thing some of us will see before we die is a snarky iSteve comment section back-and-forth being replayed before our eyes?

  217. @Mike Tre
    "If so, why are lesbians so violent toward each other? "

    That's a good question. A follow up question is how does that question reconcile with the long held isteve notion that masculinity and testosterone cause unchecked violence and aggression?

    "Self-identifying lesbians appear to be fading away numerically as young women of the sapphic persuasion are increasingly persuaded to declare themselves males and take male hormones."

    Considering your theory of high-t levels causing men to want to transition to be women, so is it then high estrogen levels that cause women to want to become men?

    Or maybe, just maybe.. hormones (naturally produced, anyway) have very little do do with the process that leads to people deciding that they're really a member of the opposite sex.

    Replies: @Sternhammer, @Bill Jones, @Alternate History

    It is thought that lesbians “become” whereas Gay men ‘are”. I have always thought that when things go bad for lesbians, it’s the end of the world since they couldn’t have a relationship with a man and having become a lesbian, they couldn’t find contentment there either. As in the case of people who move to the west coast having not found fulfillment on the east coast, only to discover that the west coast is the same as the east coast because the problem is not geographical; they have merely taken their personal traits with them to continued misery in the new geographical location. This discovery leads to self-hate, rage, lashing out in all its variants.
    Moving from hetero, to homo sexual relations is not enough if the personal traits are not worked on.

  218. anon[283] • Disclaimer says:
    @kaganovitch
    @anon

    The third had an affair with a sleazy Arab who wanted nothing to do with her. We had a temporary breakup when she met him and kept it up when we got back together

    It's probably me, but I have no idea what either of these sentences mean. If the Arab wanted nothing to do with her how is it they had an affair? What is the 'it' in "kept it up" referring to? From the sentence structure it sounds like the 'it' is the "temporary breakup", but then how can you be said to have gotten back together ? Schrodinger's breakup? Please advise.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @anon

    I was dating her for about 9 months. I broke up with her- the exotic thing had worn off by then

    Somehow, about two months later we were back together. We actually went on a vacation together a month later She left her email open and I saw all these messages form this guy. She had started screwing him from a few weeks after we initially broke up till the present. She screwed him two days before we left on vacation

    She met the Arab because he was advertising himself as an ESL tutor. He was married and feeding her BS about he loved her but couldn’t leave his wife.

    I couldn’t believe how she believed this bullshit , probably partly because of limited English and partly being gullible. He also was short and ugly and had no job.

    She was sorry , but I couldn’t take her back. I didn’t want to compete with a low-quality guy for her affections. I really looked down on her for finding that guy attractive in any way and also liking a guy who was BSing her. I also find it hard to have sex with a girl who has a sleazy guy in her. Also, from experience, you can’t take her a girl back after has cheated- she will look at you as weak for taking her back

    I still find Japanese culture and history interesting but steer clear of the women

    • Thanks: kaganovitch
  219. @R.G. Camara
    @Reg Cæsar

    Oh yeah. I forgot how *men* always say "Man, look at the brains on that one." (/sarcasm)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I’m trying to imagine George wooing the slightly older widow and mother of two Martha 263 years ago for “how much sex he can get out of that body”. Which was mostly covered up by petticoats and flowing skirts.

    Others have a different view of his motives, but you know best.

    https://npg.si.edu/blog/january-6-1759-george-and-martha-washington-tie-knot

    (Yes, the late “insurrection” occurred on their anniversary. Quite fitting– an epiphany, if you will.)

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @Reg Cæsar

    lol. If you think men weren't attracted to looks first and foremost even the age of "petticoats and flowing skirts" I have a bridge to sell you. Seriously, you think women didn't know how to show off the goods even then?

    And as to your attempt to examplify....Martha was a MILF. Who made Washington clearly very "sexually excited".

    https://www.chron.com/life/mom-houston/article/Martha-Washington-was-a-hottie-historians-now-say-1721934.php#taboola-1

    But do tell us on how male attraction is all about how many books the chick read or her career-mindedness. Every feminist within 10,000 miles loves to believe in that fairy tale as she pets her cats.

    And then run along, son, you're done.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  220. Am I the only one who finds it curiously comforting that the lesbians involved in the love triangle murders all appear to have been born female? Assuming “born female” is still the preferred usage.

  221. @Wade Hampton
    @HammerJack


    The joker in the deck of lesbian fidelity is female vanity: no woman of fifty is going to undress in front of a woman of twenty no matter how much she might lust for her.
     
    From "The Florence King Reader", published 1995.

    Replies: @Shel100, @Ralph L, @Reg Cæsar

    “Long-term” lesbian couplings often erode, or explode, when one has a child. One’s possessiveness is rooted in possessiveness, the other’s in blood. Not to mention the experience of gestation and birth.

    If the “other mother” wants a genetic tie, the obvious solution is to utilize [sic] semen from a brother or other close relative. Is that legal/ It would hardly be incest.

  222. @Reg Cæsar
    @HammerJack


    Like those old Mamas and Papas album covers, where they did their best to hide Mama Cass’s girth
     
    It's been claimed that the line "no one's gettin' fat 'cept Mama Cass" actually refers to her making good money singing at bar mitzvahs while the rest of the group was starving. I find this easier to believe than the common assumption, especially since she sang it on stage without cringing.

    But then, I think Puff was a dragon, the yellow submarine was a watercraft, Lucy was Julian's schoolmate, "Brand New Key" was about roller skates, and "Blinded By the Light" referenced an item in the garage, not the medicine cabinet. And it's never made clear which sex Lola is. So maybe I'm hopelessly naïve.

    Replies: @acementhead

    And it’s never made clear which sex Lola is.

    I think, although it’s not spelled-out, that Lola is most likely a woman, as hir fingers seem to be much too nimble(to me) for hir to be male.

    But you be the judge

    In case that’s not convincing try the below

  223. @Art Deco
    @Jonathan Mason

    Before Mr. Anon tears you to pieces, I'd remind you that the vaccine in questions (1) has been only haphazardly vetted; (2) is only haphazardly effective - a flu shot, not a polio vaccine; (3) is unnecessary for people under 45 except under odd circumstances (immuno-compromise, my 600 lb life). The people who benefit from it have received it or decided to take their chances. The risk for the vast majority is an upper respiratory tract infection of varying degrees of unpleasantness. The fatality rate for identified infections has been running around 1% for the US and 0.4% for Britain since the Delta variant hit the town.

    The vaccines you're referring to (DPT shots, measles shots, rubella shots, and polio shots) are all to prevent ailments which primarily attack children. They've all been vetted extensively; the pertussis vaccine is the dirtiest among them and you have viciously adverse reactions in about 1 child in every 300,000. Measles has an extraordinary R-o and requires nearly universal immunity to suppress. Rubella generates horrid birth defects, polio can be crippling, tetanus can be crippling, and diptheria and pertussis can be lethal. (The gp on house calls to my grandmother in 1931: "strictly separate the baby from the toddlers because if the baby gets this she'll die"). It's all about trade-offs.

    There's no good reason for the vaccine mandates or the mask mandates. Ulterior motives are at work.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Corvinus, @Jonathan Mason

    From someone you have read before…

    America’s new standardized IQ test: whether you can understand that vaccines significantly *reduce* rather than *eliminate* the chance of hospitalization or death from COVID-19.

    If you can’t understand this, please stay indoors. Your stupidity is literally a danger to everyone.

  224. anon[283] • Disclaimer says:
    @R.G. Camara
    @anon


    Though it turned out fine as he knocked her up , got charged with assaulting her and did jail time. She’s a single mom living with her parents

     

    Was this an American-Japanese girl or a Japanese girl -in-Japan? I've heard the latter are very quick to get abortions whenever they get an undesired pregnancy, which is to be expected in a population that is largely secular and non-religious. In Japan, I've especially heard single motherhood is rare and that Japanese women will be extremely quick to abort any black children they might have.

    Replies: @anon

    This was a Japanese girl on student/holiday visa in Canada. Japanese can get a visa here for a
    couple of years to work, go to school or just hang out

    I have a friend who works for a Japanese company. His Japanese boss won’t hire girls on this visa.
    Two of the types with this visa are

    1) Wild Child girls from well-to-do- families. Parents don’t know what to do with them so they ship them abroad for a while

    2) Girls Japanese men don’t want , so they go abroad to find husbands

    I found both types

    I don’t know why the baby in question wasn’t aborted or even where the baby was born

  225. @R.G. Camara
    @kaganovitch

    Anon and Slutty J-Girl were dating.

    The two "went on a break" Ross & Rachel style.

    During the break, Slutty J-Girl hooked up with an Arab who only wanted her for an easy lay but nothing else.

    Slutty J-Girl got back with Anon but kept sleeping with the Arab on the sly, hoping to get Arab to want to date her.

    Hope that helps.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    It does indeed, thanks.

  226. @Jonathan Mason
    @Mr. Anon

    Vaccines by needles are mandatory for millions of children to be allowed to attend public schools all over and this did not seem to be a big human rights issue in elections prior to 2020.

    For example, every time a vacancy comes up on the Supreme Court, there is always a hoo-ha about whether they are believed to be for or against abortion, but I don't remember them ever being asked about vaccinations. Perhaps that will be an issue in the future, I don't know.

    But most importantly, all those things are voluntary. There is no mandate stipulating that you will get a shot of B-12 or vancomycin or else you will be fired. That’s the difference, nitwit.


    I think voluntary vaccination has already been tried and that vaccination mandates are a response to poor compliance, rather than the other way around, as you seem to think.

    I do understand that many people believe that vaccine mandates are some kind of deal that financially benefits drug companies, but this is not universal and not all mandated vaccines worldwide are being produced to reward shareholders.

    Of course in the US there is a widely-held and not unreasonable belief that if you do something of value to other people, then you should be allowed to profit financially from it, and so companies like Pfizer and Moderna, are probably making out like bandits by charging $30 for two doses, but then again companies like AstraZenica and Johnson & Johnson are distributing the vaccine at cost for the duration of the pandemic, and Novavax is charging only $4 in Africa, while Gamaleya is distributing its vaccine for free in Russia, but charging $20 for two shots for export markets.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar

    companies like Pfizer and Moderna, are probably making out like bandits by charging \$30 for two doses, but then again companies like AstraZenica and Johnson & Johnson are distributing the vaccine at cost for the duration of the pandemic

    I only got a shot because it was being given a short walk away, by an agency offering a fuel card incentive– we were about to head for Lake Michigan and it would pay for almost half the gas needed– and it was the Johnson & Johnson variety. They had bought a lot of good will with their handling of the Tylenol tampering scare in 1982.

    Some of these other companies disturb me, and I can’t keep them straight anyway. Pfizer also helped wreck a rental car I was returning. But that’s another story.

  227. It is the oldest of the Seven Sisters and is in the lesbian heavy Hampshires of Western Massachusetts.

    Thise two words really go together, don’t they?

  228. @Reg Cæsar
    @R.G. Camara

    I'm trying to imagine George wooing the slightly older widow and mother of two Martha 263 years ago for "how much sex he can get out of that body". Which was mostly covered up by petticoats and flowing skirts.

    Others have a different view of his motives, but you know best.


    https://npg.si.edu/blog/january-6-1759-george-and-martha-washington-tie-knot


    (Yes, the late "insurrection" occurred on their anniversary. Quite fitting-- an epiphany, if you will.)

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    lol. If you think men weren’t attracted to looks first and foremost even the age of “petticoats and flowing skirts” I have a bridge to sell you. Seriously, you think women didn’t know how to show off the goods even then?

    And as to your attempt to examplify….Martha was a MILF. Who made Washington clearly very “sexually excited”.

    https://www.chron.com/life/mom-houston/article/Martha-Washington-was-a-hottie-historians-now-say-1721934.php#taboola-1

    But do tell us on how male attraction is all about how many books the chick read or her career-mindedness. Every feminist within 10,000 miles loves to believe in that fairy tale as she pets her cats.

    And then run along, son, you’re done.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @R.G. Camara

    I don't know where you live, but on continents other than Africa, men have risen to interests higher than their shlongs. In my case, intelligence in a wife was up there with good character, good health, and good faith-- a non-negotiable. The shape of this or that body part was never a deal breaker.

    I sure hope you're not in a community property state. Men get burned with your attitude.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

  229. @International Jew
    The Hachinayagi-Savoy thing is a matter of she-said-she-said. I'm satisfied to write it off as "mutual combat".

    Replies: @notsaying, @Reg Cæsar

    The Hachinayagi-Savoy thing is a matter of she-said-she-said. I’m satisfied to write it off as “mutual combat”.

    In the case of most lesbians, mutual wombat.

  230. @R.G. Camara
    @Reg Cæsar

    lol. If you think men weren't attracted to looks first and foremost even the age of "petticoats and flowing skirts" I have a bridge to sell you. Seriously, you think women didn't know how to show off the goods even then?

    And as to your attempt to examplify....Martha was a MILF. Who made Washington clearly very "sexually excited".

    https://www.chron.com/life/mom-houston/article/Martha-Washington-was-a-hottie-historians-now-say-1721934.php#taboola-1

    But do tell us on how male attraction is all about how many books the chick read or her career-mindedness. Every feminist within 10,000 miles loves to believe in that fairy tale as she pets her cats.

    And then run along, son, you're done.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I don’t know where you live, but on continents other than Africa, men have risen to interests higher than their shlongs. In my case, intelligence in a wife was up there with good character, good health, and good faith– a non-negotiable. The shape of this or that body part was never a deal breaker.

    I sure hope you’re not in a community property state. Men get burned with your attitude.

    • Troll: R.G. Camara
    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @Reg Cæsar


    intelligence in a wife was up there with...good health
     
    lol. "Man, look at the *immune system* on that one!"

    The shape of this or that body part was never a deal breaker.
     
    I'm sure you would have jumped into marriage with her if she'd been 300lbs. (/sarcasm)

    You can live in denial about your natural male instincts, but you can't make me live there with you, little denialist.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  231. @Art Deco
    @Jonathan Mason

    Before Mr. Anon tears you to pieces, I'd remind you that the vaccine in questions (1) has been only haphazardly vetted; (2) is only haphazardly effective - a flu shot, not a polio vaccine; (3) is unnecessary for people under 45 except under odd circumstances (immuno-compromise, my 600 lb life). The people who benefit from it have received it or decided to take their chances. The risk for the vast majority is an upper respiratory tract infection of varying degrees of unpleasantness. The fatality rate for identified infections has been running around 1% for the US and 0.4% for Britain since the Delta variant hit the town.

    The vaccines you're referring to (DPT shots, measles shots, rubella shots, and polio shots) are all to prevent ailments which primarily attack children. They've all been vetted extensively; the pertussis vaccine is the dirtiest among them and you have viciously adverse reactions in about 1 child in every 300,000. Measles has an extraordinary R-o and requires nearly universal immunity to suppress. Rubella generates horrid birth defects, polio can be crippling, tetanus can be crippling, and diptheria and pertussis can be lethal. (The gp on house calls to my grandmother in 1931: "strictly separate the baby from the toddlers because if the baby gets this she'll die"). It's all about trade-offs.

    There's no good reason for the vaccine mandates or the mask mandates. Ulterior motives are at work.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Corvinus, @Jonathan Mason

    There’s no good reason for the vaccine mandates or the mask mandates. Ulterior motives are at work.

    The trouble with this argument is that vaccine mandates, mask mandates, handwashing mandates, and social distancing mandates are in effect all over the world in numerous countries in all sorts of different political settings.

    Is it one small group of conspirators that is implementing the ulterior motives for the whole planet, or is it divided up into continental gangs that each have their own territory?

    I wish James Bond had not recently met his demise, because I think he was the only person who was capable of effectively dealing with these global criminals.

    I asked my doctor the other day how long he thought the pandemic would continue and he responded: “How should I know, I am not a politician!”

    This is probably the first epidemic or pandemic that has been treated primarily by politicians rather than by medical authorities, for example having politicians publicly announcing that certain drugs are politically effective in treating Covid-19.

    It could well be the start of a new long-term trend in which politicians will state which medicines they recommend for various ailments in presidential hustings and debates, and drugs will be approved by the Supreme Court, rather than the old-fashioned way of leaving it mainly to the medical profession to do the research and conduct trials to see if drugs are effective before the manufacturers submit them to the FDA.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jonathan Mason

    The trouble with this argument is that vaccine mandates, mask mandates, handwashing mandates, and social distancing mandates are in effect all over the world in numerous countries in all sorts of different political settings.

    You mean the same sort of people make political decisions all over the occidental world? You think that surprises anyone?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Jonathan Mason


    Is it one small group of conspirators that is implementing the ulterior motives for the whole planet, or is it divided up into continental gangs that each have their own territory?
     
    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/now-is-the-time-for-a-great-reset/
  232. @Reg Cæsar
    @R.G. Camara

    I don't know where you live, but on continents other than Africa, men have risen to interests higher than their shlongs. In my case, intelligence in a wife was up there with good character, good health, and good faith-- a non-negotiable. The shape of this or that body part was never a deal breaker.

    I sure hope you're not in a community property state. Men get burned with your attitude.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    intelligence in a wife was up there with…good health

    lol. “Man, look at the *immune system* on that one!”

    The shape of this or that body part was never a deal breaker.

    I’m sure you would have jumped into marriage with her if she’d been 300lbs. (/sarcasm)

    You can live in denial about your natural male instincts, but you can’t make me live there with you, little denialist.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @R.G. Camara


    You can live in denial about your natural male instincts
     
    You leave room for nothing else. Including civilization. A Teddy Roosevelt would make hash of you.
  233. @Obstinate Cymric
    @Reg Cæsar

    "Men are those that have grown out of that stage."

    Do you think so? While you can love and honour the wife of your bosom and mother of your children, you can still be stuck in that stage as well. I know I am.

    If you mean attraction as you grow older (say, late 20s) isn't entirely, 100% physical, I agree. One of the attractions of the girl I married was that she obviously liked babies and children.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    While you can love and honour the wife of your bosom and mother of your children, you can still be stuck in that stage as well. I know I am.

    It’s a matter of perspective. The youthful desires recede, not disappear, with maturity. Other priorities come to the forever. In Mr Camara Obscura’s Oliver Reed worldview, it’s caveman lust and nothing else.

    Obstinate Cymric says:

    I’d challenge him to a bet, evan odds, put it on a cardiff necessary, but am afraid he’d welsh. He’s no angel,sey. I try to deal caerphilly, so as not to megan error, leek cash, and go pembroke. It’s a rhyl risk, given that he hasn’t a rarebit of sense. Conwy agree on that much?

    • Replies: @Obstinate Cymric
    @Reg Cæsar


    "The youthful desires recede, not disappear, with maturity. Other priorities come to the forever (must be using a phone, autocorrect). In Mr Camara Obscura’s Oliver Reed worldview, it’s caveman lust and nothing else."
     
    They may recede but IMHO the tide is still pretty high. Still caveman lust uber alles as far as I'm concerned, and long may it remain so.

    "When I lose interest you should call the doctor"
  234. @R.G. Camara
    @Reg Cæsar


    intelligence in a wife was up there with...good health
     
    lol. "Man, look at the *immune system* on that one!"

    The shape of this or that body part was never a deal breaker.
     
    I'm sure you would have jumped into marriage with her if she'd been 300lbs. (/sarcasm)

    You can live in denial about your natural male instincts, but you can't make me live there with you, little denialist.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    You can live in denial about your natural male instincts

    You leave room for nothing else. Including civilization. A Teddy Roosevelt would make hash of you.

  235. @Jonathan Mason
    @Art Deco


    There’s no good reason for the vaccine mandates or the mask mandates. Ulterior motives are at work.
     
    The trouble with this argument is that vaccine mandates, mask mandates, handwashing mandates, and social distancing mandates are in effect all over the world in numerous countries in all sorts of different political settings.

    Is it one small group of conspirators that is implementing the ulterior motives for the whole planet, or is it divided up into continental gangs that each have their own territory?

    I wish James Bond had not recently met his demise, because I think he was the only person who was capable of effectively dealing with these global criminals.

    I asked my doctor the other day how long he thought the pandemic would continue and he responded: "How should I know, I am not a politician!"

    This is probably the first epidemic or pandemic that has been treated primarily by politicians rather than by medical authorities, for example having politicians publicly announcing that certain drugs are politically effective in treating Covid-19.

    It could well be the start of a new long-term trend in which politicians will state which medicines they recommend for various ailments in presidential hustings and debates, and drugs will be approved by the Supreme Court, rather than the old-fashioned way of leaving it mainly to the medical profession to do the research and conduct trials to see if drugs are effective before the manufacturers submit them to the FDA.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Mr. Anon

    The trouble with this argument is that vaccine mandates, mask mandates, handwashing mandates, and social distancing mandates are in effect all over the world in numerous countries in all sorts of different political settings.

    You mean the same sort of people make political decisions all over the occidental world? You think that surprises anyone?

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Art Deco

    “You mean the same sort of people make political decisions all over the occidental world?“

    Assuming they (globalists? elites? Jews?) do have this common thread and have it all planned out ahead of time. But I would like you to please directly answer Mr. Mason’s question— Is it one small group of conspirators that is implementing the ulterior motives for the whole planet, or is it divided up into continental gangs that each have their own territory?

    How do you know? What evidence do you have that lends support to your position?

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Brutusale

  236. @Art Deco
    @Jonathan Mason

    The trouble with this argument is that vaccine mandates, mask mandates, handwashing mandates, and social distancing mandates are in effect all over the world in numerous countries in all sorts of different political settings.

    You mean the same sort of people make political decisions all over the occidental world? You think that surprises anyone?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “You mean the same sort of people make political decisions all over the occidental world?“

    Assuming they (globalists? elites? Jews?) do have this common thread and have it all planned out ahead of time. But I would like you to please directly answer Mr. Mason’s question— Is it one small group of conspirators that is implementing the ulterior motives for the whole planet, or is it divided up into continental gangs that each have their own territory?

    How do you know? What evidence do you have that lends support to your position?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Corvinus


    What evidence do you have that lends support to your position?
     
    What evidence do you ever cite in support of your contentions, you contemptible boob?
    , @Brutusale
    @Corvinus

    Fighting your own obtuseness can be problematic, but sounding like an idiot while defending the likes of Mason are beyond your usual absurdity.

    https://www.weforum.org/

    https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/

    Replies: @Corvinus

  237. @TyRade
    Was OJ near the scene?

    Replies: @Gerard Frederick

    No, OJ was nowhere to be seen, but he should have gotten a medal because he offed a race traitor and a Jude simultaneously thereby improving the population mix.

  238. Anon[426] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    @White Guy In Japan

    I have dated three Japanese girls

    One dumped me for a wannabe MMA fighter and got him and his friends to threaten me with destruction if I even looked at her again. The experience was harrowing . Though it turned out fine as he knocked her up , got charged with assaulting her and did jail time. She's a single mom living with her parents

    The next one stalked me. She would sneak into my apartment building and sit outside my apt in the hall. That had a messy, but not horrible ending

    The third had an affair with a sleazy Arab who wanted nothing to do with her. We had a temporary breakup when she met him and kept it up when we got back together

    They were all cute but three strikes and you're out No more J girls. They're psycho or at least the ones I meet are

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @kaganovitch, @R.G. Camara, @Anon

    I have dated three Japanese girls

    Wow, you were really unlucky. I can only assume that you don’t speak much Japanese and were dating English-speaking, foreigner-loving, “yellow-cab” types. Spend a year in a Japanese school in Japan and then try meeting some normal girls (your own age). If you have a career-type job, you should be able to attract nice Japanese girls. If you’re a shiftless, odd-jobbing, backpacker type you still may have problems.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_cab_%28stereotype%29

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anon

    I don't know if it was bad luck or just me or just a representative sample of J girls

    I met them in Canada. They can come here on a two-year working holiday visa. They were all in their early twenties . I was mid to late twenties

    No#1 "s father died when she was young. She was raised by her mother and grandmother and kinda poor. Girls without a positive father figure often end up with violent douchebags, some kind of overcompensation. That's probably why she was with goon, plus she wasn't too bright . Though she did have redeeming qualities. I only found out MMA goon assaulted her and knocked her up because she told me. Three years after the fact she wrote me a sincere apology for what she did

    No#2 came from a well-to-do family. Her father was a senior civil servant. She only ever dated white guys in Japan. She's now married to an Australian guy. Her older sister married a company man. Her younger sister is even more psycho- she used to smack her mother all the time as a teen. She married an unsuspecting American military pilot. The pilot ended up bailing when he realized she was psycho

    No#3 came from rural western Japan . She was unbelievably cute, like a doll coming to life. She was 22 but looked 14. She dressed very conservatively and slept with a stuffed Snoopy . She had massive crushes on Brad Pitt and David Beckham. She would be the last girl I would think would be attracted to a sleazy Arab

    All of this happened in a four-year period, which shook my confidence and mental health . I've never these problems , or at least to that degree, with other girls

  239. @Jonathan Mason
    @Art Deco


    There’s no good reason for the vaccine mandates or the mask mandates. Ulterior motives are at work.
     
    The trouble with this argument is that vaccine mandates, mask mandates, handwashing mandates, and social distancing mandates are in effect all over the world in numerous countries in all sorts of different political settings.

    Is it one small group of conspirators that is implementing the ulterior motives for the whole planet, or is it divided up into continental gangs that each have their own territory?

    I wish James Bond had not recently met his demise, because I think he was the only person who was capable of effectively dealing with these global criminals.

    I asked my doctor the other day how long he thought the pandemic would continue and he responded: "How should I know, I am not a politician!"

    This is probably the first epidemic or pandemic that has been treated primarily by politicians rather than by medical authorities, for example having politicians publicly announcing that certain drugs are politically effective in treating Covid-19.

    It could well be the start of a new long-term trend in which politicians will state which medicines they recommend for various ailments in presidential hustings and debates, and drugs will be approved by the Supreme Court, rather than the old-fashioned way of leaving it mainly to the medical profession to do the research and conduct trials to see if drugs are effective before the manufacturers submit them to the FDA.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Mr. Anon

    Is it one small group of conspirators that is implementing the ulterior motives for the whole planet, or is it divided up into continental gangs that each have their own territory?

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/now-is-the-time-for-a-great-reset/

  240. @Corvinus
    @Art Deco

    “You mean the same sort of people make political decisions all over the occidental world?“

    Assuming they (globalists? elites? Jews?) do have this common thread and have it all planned out ahead of time. But I would like you to please directly answer Mr. Mason’s question— Is it one small group of conspirators that is implementing the ulterior motives for the whole planet, or is it divided up into continental gangs that each have their own territory?

    How do you know? What evidence do you have that lends support to your position?

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Brutusale

    What evidence do you have that lends support to your position?

    What evidence do you ever cite in support of your contentions, you contemptible boob?

  241. @Corvinus
    @Art Deco

    “You mean the same sort of people make political decisions all over the occidental world?“

    Assuming they (globalists? elites? Jews?) do have this common thread and have it all planned out ahead of time. But I would like you to please directly answer Mr. Mason’s question— Is it one small group of conspirators that is implementing the ulterior motives for the whole planet, or is it divided up into continental gangs that each have their own territory?

    How do you know? What evidence do you have that lends support to your position?

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Brutusale

    Fighting your own obtuseness can be problematic, but sounding like an idiot while defending the likes of Mason are beyond your usual absurdity.

    https://www.weforum.org/

    https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Brutusale

    Pro Tip --> When providing links, it's best to actually have an excerpt that shows exactly how and why it supports a statement or position.

    Try again.

    Replies: @Brutusale

  242. anon[497] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    @anon


    I have dated three Japanese girls
     
    Wow, you were really unlucky. I can only assume that you don't speak much Japanese and were dating English-speaking, foreigner-loving, "yellow-cab" types. Spend a year in a Japanese school in Japan and then try meeting some normal girls (your own age). If you have a career-type job, you should be able to attract nice Japanese girls. If you're a shiftless, odd-jobbing, backpacker type you still may have problems.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_cab_%28stereotype%29

    Replies: @anon

    I don’t know if it was bad luck or just me or just a representative sample of J girls

    I met them in Canada. They can come here on a two-year working holiday visa. They were all in their early twenties . I was mid to late twenties

    No#1 “s father died when she was young. She was raised by her mother and grandmother and kinda poor. Girls without a positive father figure often end up with violent douchebags, some kind of overcompensation. That’s probably why she was with goon, plus she wasn’t too bright . Though she did have redeeming qualities. I only found out MMA goon assaulted her and knocked her up because she told me. Three years after the fact she wrote me a sincere apology for what she did

    No#2 came from a well-to-do family. Her father was a senior civil servant. She only ever dated white guys in Japan. She’s now married to an Australian guy. Her older sister married a company man. Her younger sister is even more psycho- she used to smack her mother all the time as a teen. She married an unsuspecting American military pilot. The pilot ended up bailing when he realized she was psycho

    No#3 came from rural western Japan . She was unbelievably cute, like a doll coming to life. She was 22 but looked 14. She dressed very conservatively and slept with a stuffed Snoopy . She had massive crushes on Brad Pitt and David Beckham. She would be the last girl I would think would be attracted to a sleazy Arab

    All of this happened in a four-year period, which shook my confidence and mental health . I’ve never these problems , or at least to that degree, with other girls

  243. @Brutusale
    @Corvinus

    Fighting your own obtuseness can be problematic, but sounding like an idiot while defending the likes of Mason are beyond your usual absurdity.

    https://www.weforum.org/

    https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/

    Replies: @Corvinus

    Pro Tip –> When providing links, it’s best to actually have an excerpt that shows exactly how and why it supports a statement or position.

    Try again.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Corvinus

    "Pro tip"...chuckle, snort. Even a dumbass like you knows exactly what Klaus Schwab and Gyorgy Schwartz are up to.

    You need to get your brain a Great Reset!

    Replies: @Corvinus

  244. @Corvinus
    @Brutusale

    Pro Tip --> When providing links, it's best to actually have an excerpt that shows exactly how and why it supports a statement or position.

    Try again.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    “Pro tip”…chuckle, snort. Even a dumbass like you knows exactly what Klaus Schwab and Gyorgy Schwartz are up to.

    You need to get your brain a Great Reset!

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Brutusale

    “Pro tip”…chuckle, snort.”

    It’s not a laughing matter when en you come across as being iotjer than capable of supporting a position. Third time the charm?

    “Even a dumbass like you knows exactly what Klaus Schwab and Gyorgy Schwartz are up to.”

    Ah, yes, they and their cronies are crafting policies to take over the world. Assuming that to be true, and you being acutely aware of their machinations, what are you doing to stop them? Don’t you have a duty to generations of future whites to stop them dead in their tracks?

    “You need to get your brain a Great Reset!”

    You need to stop being bamboozled by the Alt Roghy and not be a slave to confirmation bias.

  245. @Brutusale
    @Corvinus

    "Pro tip"...chuckle, snort. Even a dumbass like you knows exactly what Klaus Schwab and Gyorgy Schwartz are up to.

    You need to get your brain a Great Reset!

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Pro tip”…chuckle, snort.”

    It’s not a laughing matter when en you come across as being iotjer than capable of supporting a position. Third time the charm?

    “Even a dumbass like you knows exactly what Klaus Schwab and Gyorgy Schwartz are up to.”

    Ah, yes, they and their cronies are crafting policies to take over the world. Assuming that to be true, and you being acutely aware of their machinations, what are you doing to stop them? Don’t you have a duty to generations of future whites to stop them dead in their tracks?

    “You need to get your brain a Great Reset!”

    You need to stop being bamboozled by the Alt Roghy and not be a slave to confirmation bias.

  246. The Greenfield Recorder:

    Judge sentences Hachiyanagi to 10 to 12 years

    By DOMENIC POLI
    Staff Writer
    Published: 10/20/2021 11:27:36 AM

    GREENFIELD — The Mount Holyoke College professor who admitted using a fire poker, a rock and pruning shears to attack a colleague in the victim’s Leverett home was sentenced on Wednesday to 10 to 12 years behind bars.

    Rie Hachiyanagi, 50, of South Hadley, pleaded guilty in Franklin County Superior Court last week to three counts of armed assault to murder a person age 60 or older, three counts of assault and battery with a dangerous weapon on a person age 60 or older, and single counts of mayhem, home invasion and entering a dwelling at night for a felony. There was also an armed assault charge and an assault and battery charge related to each weapon Hachiyanagi used in the attack.

    Judge Francis Flannery took a handful of days to mull over the sentencing for Hachiyanagi, who will receive 20 months’ credit for time already served since her arrest following the attack in December 2019. The defendant was sentenced to 10 to 12 years for each armed assault to murder charge and seven to nine years for each assault and battery charge. All of these sentences will be served concurrently, meaning simultaneously, as opposed to consecutively, meaning back to back.

    Once she is released, Hachiyanagi will be on probation for three years, with conditions that she submit to a GPS device and stay away from the victim and Mount Holyoke College.

  247. @Reg Cæsar
    @Obstinate Cymric


    While you can love and honour the wife of your bosom and mother of your children, you can still be stuck in that stage as well. I know I am.
     
    It's a matter of perspective. The youthful desires recede, not disappear, with maturity. Other priorities come to the forever. In Mr Camara Obscura's Oliver Reed worldview, it's caveman lust and nothing else.

    Obstinate Cymric says:

     

    I'd challenge him to a bet, evan odds, put it on a cardiff necessary, but am afraid he'd welsh. He's no angel,sey. I try to deal caerphilly, so as not to megan error, leek cash, and go pembroke. It's a rhyl risk, given that he hasn't a rarebit of sense. Conwy agree on that much?

    Replies: @Obstinate Cymric

    “The youthful desires recede, not disappear, with maturity. Other priorities come to the forever (must be using a phone, autocorrect). In Mr Camara Obscura’s Oliver Reed worldview, it’s caveman lust and nothing else.”

    They may recede but IMHO the tide is still pretty high. Still caveman lust uber alles as far as I’m concerned, and long may it remain so.

    “When I lose interest you should call the doctor”

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