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From the Washington Post:
A tweet from far-right icon Le Pen causes anger in France
By Adam Taylor January 9 at 10:42 AM
Jean-Marie le Pen, the father of France’s mainstream far right movement, provoked both outrage and support on Friday when he tweeted an image of his daughter Marine le Pen with the slogan “Keep Calm And Vote Le Pen.”
The elder Le Pen’s message came as police struggled with two separate hostage standoffs in Paris. At least one of the incidents is believed linked to a terrorist attack on the offices of satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo that left 12 people dead Wednesday. …
Online, there was clearly some support for the National Front: Jean-Marie le Pen’s message received more than 1,000 retweets in less than an hour. However, many users expressed shock at what they saw as a cynical appropriation of a tragedy. “Vous êtes odieux” (You are odious), one user tweeted at le Pen. “Manœuvre nauséabonde” (a nauseating political maneuver), wrote another.
Whenever Muslims Behave Badly, we are immediately warned by the establishment, in what I call the Frontlash, that the real danger is the imminent, looming Backlash.
In the U.S., of course, this is awfully silly since there are basically zero white Christian youth organizations outside of the control of responsible adults.
In soccer countries, with their more organic, working class sports culture, however, there are hooligan firms that could conceivably cause trouble. So old man Le Pen’s tweet is telling his rowdier supporters to keep calm and instead express their outrage in the voting booth.
So you might think that Le Pen’s call — “Keep calm” — for no Backlash in the streets would be praised. But Le Pen’s call for peace and democracy is outraging the Establishment: because the point of their Frontlash is not to avoid some broken glass, it is to hold on to power by demonizing and demoralizing anyone thinking of holding the ruling caste accountable for their policy mistakes via the democratic process.
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LOL at “mainstream far right movement.” Newspeak at its finest.
OT: “Why are so few black people using Bitcoin?” – The Atlantic
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/01/why-are-so-few-black-people-using-bitcoin/384268/
They briefly mention drugs. It seems that even in the drug market, there’s a race gap. How many blacks used the Silk Road?
At least they’re acknowledging the Front National as part of the mainstream now. That’s a step in the right direction.
He did it? Really? Seems more like the output of some 20 something aide. Is the old man even aware of the whole “keep calm” thing?
Le Twitter, qu’est-ce que c’est?
J-M Le Pen is quite hip to the new technology. He does an online video commentary every week, for one thing.
I used “frontlash” to mean the initial incident that was the supposed cause of the hypothetical backlash:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/how-the-news-media-is-spinning-rapergate/#comment-801509
But I do like Steve’s use of it to mean the Megaphone’s tsk-tsking about the hypothetical backlash.
But that means we still need a name for the initial incident: “the lash,” perhaps?
Why am i not surprised that the champions of free speech, Charlie Hedbo, called for Front National to be banned in 1995…
http://www.amren.com/news/2015/01/what-french-free-speech/
http://www.france24.com/en/20150108-paris-attack-charlie-hebdo-french-unity-far-right-national-front-lepen-hollande-republic/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96VhwsFGp6k
The numbers quoted don’t seem to support the thesis.
Thousands of supportive tweets and a few nasty comments.
What gives here? Why do the few nasty comments win by default?
No he’s well aware of it and endorsed it. I translated a little bit of an interview with him on this tweet and posted it in the earlier thread.
J-M Le Pen is quite hip to the new technology. He does an online video commentary every week, for one thing.
Meantime, in Montpellier ….
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2903897/Two-held-hostage-southern-French-city-Montpellier-siege-three-days.html
But that means we still need a name for the initial incident: “the lash,” perhaps?
What is “the lash” without rum and sodomy?
It’s interesting to see French nationalists employing Anglo-Saxon memes.
English got the words "calm" and "vote" from French.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
* The Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_CourtoisieReplies: @a Newsreader
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imageboard
Try searching for "pol" or "b", to get an understanding of where most memes originate.
http://www.amren.com/news/2015/01/what-french-free-speech/
http://www.france24.com/en/20150108-paris-attack-charlie-hebdo-french-unity-far-right-national-front-lepen-hollande-republic/Replies: @fnn
A victim of legal persecution by Charlie Hebdo speaks:
“It’s interesting to see French nationalists employing Anglo-Saxon memes.”
English got the words “calm” and “vote” from French.
Boy, have things changed…
About a week ago I listened to a Radio Courtoisie* show from over there that was an hour-long tribute to Downton Abbey: “it shows a society not yet corrupted by Marx and Freud”.
* The Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Courtoisie
I wonder if the French tend to have high regard for the English culture that disappeared after World War 2, or maybe this is part of the National Front's rebellion against the Gaullist chauvinism of the mainstream conservatives.
As Freud would say, very interesting.Replies: @Falafel
Gotta love that formulation. When jumping through linguistic hoops, you should guard against becoming a twisted pretzel through which nothing intelligible can pass.
“However, many users expressed shock at what they saw as a cynical appropriation of a tragedy”
The Bolsheviks sure hate to have their own tactics used against them, don’t they? This coming from the same paper who immediately used the Newtown events to call for banning guns, the Ferguson nonsense, who knows how many other racial stories, etc. I think they are mostly upset that the tactics they used to have a monopoly on are now being used by the opposition, albeit in an honest manner.
It would be more interesting to see French nationalists employing Anglo-Saxon mimes.
Razib cut short an interesting discussion on the religious nature of the modern Left.
We keep hearing that Muslims must tolerate blasphemy because free speech. But Europe doesn’t have free speech. In most European countries, including France, there is a long list of blasphemous statements for which one can go to jail – from publicly denying facts, like the Holocaust, to denying opinions, like racial equality.
The Left is an amorphous religion from which one cannot claim religious freedom, because the Religion of Political Correctness has never been formally declared. But it has its own dogma – racial and gender quality, etc. It has its own scriptures – poems like “The New Colossus,” and plays like The Crucible. It has its own hymns – “Imagine.” It has its own deities, including one – The Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King, Junior – with his own holiday. “Public schools” are now effectively parochial schools owned and run by the Religion of Political Correctness.
It must seem to Muslims very hypocritical to claim they must accept blasphemy while banning blasphemy against the Left.
“a cynical appropriation of a tragedy”
Remember when Bill Clinton blamed Rush Limbaugh and his listeners for Tim McVeigh? He did so before it was even known who had bombed the OKC federal building.
Remember when Janet Napolitaco, with her position in the Obama Administration, blamed Future Terrorist Acts on yet to be determined right wing extremists?
We knew who had shot up the Charlie Hebdo offices from almost the very beginning, and the French government has known the danger posed by at least one of the terrorists for years.
What is "the lash" without rum and sodomy?Replies: @NOTA
There are some bars in SF that can hook you up with all three of those….
That’s pretty much what political activists do. Every tragedy is proof of whatever they believed and advocated for before it ever happened.
So sick of the MSM constantly using the term “anti-immigrant” to refer to all who are skeptical of endless mass 3rd world immigration – from the Front National, PEGIDA, UKIP etc. to a large portion of European voters. This is obviously part of their style guides. The usage is sloppy at best and in most cases it’s childish and transparently phony. “Anti-immigration” would be more accurate although still mendacious in most cases. Like Frau Merkel who claims PEGIDA marchers have “hate in their hearts” MSM journalists presume too much. What a bunch of babies.
* The Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_CourtoisieReplies: @a Newsreader
It’s always tough for me, an American, to grok the sentiments of European politics. I’m vaguely aware that French politicians tend to demagogue against Anglo-Saxon influence, but how this manifests itself in party politics is pretty interesting.
I wonder if the French tend to have high regard for the English culture that disappeared after World War 2, or maybe this is part of the National Front’s rebellion against the Gaullist chauvinism of the mainstream conservatives.
As Freud would say, very interesting.
Eric Zemmour said almost exactly the same thing back in 2012 when he criticized Charlie Hebdo:
It might be an anglo-saxon meme, but the current incarnation comes from Imageboards of the more political incorrect variety.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imageboard
Try searching for “pol” or “b”, to get an understanding of where most memes originate.
English got the words "calm" and "vote" from French.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Yes, but what is (or was) particularly English about the “Keep Calm” posters is that they were never used. The people were already keeping calm.
Boy, have things changed…
I feel that two critical points surrounding this massacre deserve hammering on. I’m glad that so many others here have stressed the first point in particular; the second one will probably see more exposure in the coming days as new details about the murderers emerge.
First, it’s absurd and revolting that a country with heavy “hate speech” laws and a large Muslim population does not ban the maligning of the Prophet Mohammad. No matter how one feels about Islam, one should have the generosity of heart and the elevation of manners not to insult Muslims in a schoolyard manner by blaspheming their prophet.
The various scandalous cartoons featuring Mohammad (among others) have not been examples of “free speech.” They have not even been examples of pornography. They have been examples of filth, garbage, and provocation. There always is a limit to “free speech.” That’s why raving lunatics get locked up. And now that France has invited millions of Muslims, it should ban the blasphemy of the prophet Mohammad – or repeal the weird laws about denying the Holocaust and others such “hate speech” laws, and dismantle the current double standard.
Second, Europe should stop supporting terrorist cannibals in the Middle East. If you are against terrorism, you should be against terrorism everywhere. Europe (France in particular) has been, for a good many years, supporting virulently insane psychopaths over in places like Syria and Libya. The Paris shooters seem to have recently returned from the battlegrounds of Syria.
If you don’t like terrorism… Don’t support terrorists!
So only free speech that you approve of. OK got it . Thanks.Replies: @gzu
The problem is that some political parties are deemed more equal and ‘democratic’ than others:
Pariser Politik streitet über Trauermarsch
Nach dem Mordanschlag auf das Satiremagazin “Charlie Hebdo” sorgt der Ausschluss des rechtsextremen Front National (FN) von einem Solidaritätsmarsch am Sonntag für Ärger.
It seems the French political establishment wants to organize some kind of official “frontlash” event but one party — the National Front — is officially uninvited. Because it’s an ‘extreme right’ (“rechtsextremen”) party.
But there was a backlash after 9/11. There were plenty of individual instances of beatings and killings of random Egyptian storeowners and the like by angry, drunk New Yorkers. You don’t have to have organized soccer clubs to have a backlash.
Of course, the biggest backlash of all was the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the ongoing War on Terror. This is perpetrated by a white Christian youth organization known as the US Armed Forces. Whether it is in the the control of responsible adults is a matter of debate.
First, it's absurd and revolting that a country with heavy "hate speech" laws and a large Muslim population does not ban the maligning of the Prophet Mohammad. No matter how one feels about Islam, one should have the generosity of heart and the elevation of manners not to insult Muslims in a schoolyard manner by blaspheming their prophet.
The various scandalous cartoons featuring Mohammad (among others) have not been examples of "free speech." They have not even been examples of pornography. They have been examples of filth, garbage, and provocation. There always is a limit to "free speech." That's why raving lunatics get locked up. And now that France has invited millions of Muslims, it should ban the blasphemy of the prophet Mohammad - or repeal the weird laws about denying the Holocaust and others such "hate speech" laws, and dismantle the current double standard.
Second, Europe should stop supporting terrorist cannibals in the Middle East. If you are against terrorism, you should be against terrorism everywhere. Europe (France in particular) has been, for a good many years, supporting virulently insane psychopaths over in places like Syria and Libya. The Paris shooters seem to have recently returned from the battlegrounds of Syria.
If you don't like terrorism... Don't support terrorists!Replies: @donut
” They have not even been examples of pornography. They have been examples of filth, garbage, and provocation. There always is a limit to “free speech.”
So only free speech that you approve of. OK got it . Thanks.
Free speech as you know it doesn't really exist there.
Jesus ,OK forget the crack about the hostages. Here’s a link to an essay Vidal wrote in 2001 for Vanity Fair regarding Timothy McVeigh. He had previously published a thin volume of their correspondence.
http://www.gorevidalpages.com/2001/09/gore-vidal-meaning-of-timothy-mcveigh.html
The Bolsheviks sure hate to have their own tactics used against them, don't they? This coming from the same paper who immediately used the Newtown events to call for banning guns, the Ferguson nonsense, who knows how many other racial stories, etc. I think they are mostly upset that the tactics they used to have a monopoly on are now being used by the opposition, albeit in an honest manner.Replies: @ben tillman
That’s all small potatoes. How about using the attack on the World Trade Center as a pretext for invading a country whose people and government had nothing to do with it?
Of course, the biggest backlash of all was the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the ongoing War on Terror. This is perpetrated by a white Christian youth organization known as the US Armed Forces. Whether it is in the the control of responsible adults is a matter of debate.Replies: @ben tillman, @Dave Pinsen
No, that was frontlash. The government invited the World Trade Center attackers (‘inviting the world”) and then used that attack as a pretext for attacking Iraq (“invading the world”). It was all part of the same program — one big frontlash.
“In soccer countries, with their more organic, working class sports culture, however, there are hooligan firms that could conceivably cause trouble.”
White soccer hooligans in Europe are a bunch of beta males compared to Pakistani and North African Muslims. I have never heard of any incidents in Europe of Muslims ending up in the emergency because they were nearly beaten to death by White soccer hooligans.
White soccer hooligans do not strike fear into the hearts of Muslims in Europe. The only people that fight back against Muslims are Israelis and certain Mongoloid Asian groups like the Burmese.
Also, fighting back implies that an attack from the other side is forthcoming.
“First, it’s absurd and revolting that a country with heavy “hate speech” laws and a large Muslim population does not ban the maligning of the Prophet Mohammad. No matter how one feels about Islam, one should have the generosity of heart and the elevation of manners not to insult Muslims in a schoolyard manner by blaspheming their prophet.
The various scandalous cartoons featuring Mohammad (among others) have not been examples of “free speech.” They have not even been examples of pornography. They have been examples of filth, garbage, and provocation. There always is a limit to “free speech.” That’s why raving lunatics get locked up. And now that France has invited millions of Muslims, it should ban the blasphemy of the prophet Mohammad”
I am glad that Islam was extremely disrespected by a bunch of French Atheists. I am tired of Atheists only picking on Christians. What makes Muslims such a special protected group that they should be exempt from negative insults and criticisms ? If Christians have to suffer bullying from Atheists, than so should Muslims.
In a free speech society if jokes about Catholic priests all being pedophiles are tolerated, than jokes about the prophet Muhammad being a pedophile should be tolerated as well.
In a free speech society if jokes about Catholic priests all being pedophiles are tolerated, than jokes about the prophet Muhammad being a pedophile should be tolerated as well."
Who said that it should be tolerated? Even radical Muslims wouldn't disagree if western countries went after those who insult Christianity. Yours is a false premise. Nobody should suffer bullying from Atheists.
I am not surprised at a lot of the pro-Islam comments from iSteve readers ever since the terrorist attacks in France occured. Since most Steve Sailer’s fanbase have an extreme hatred of the Jews and Islam tends to be enemies of the Jews, it is one of those situations where the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
For once iSteve readers and far left wing progressives on MSNBC like Chris Hayes found a political opinion that they both can agree with. Chris Hayes also believes that insulting Muslims should not be protected under the freedom of speech umbrella.
But I am sure Chris Hayes being the left wing progressive hypocrite that he is, thinks Christianity is not off limits to degrade and make fun of. You can not be a true left wing progressive without being a hypocrite, it is just not possible.
Jews don’t go on wild murdering sprees over cartoon strips that portray all Jews as having extremely long hook noses that are longer than most men’s penises.
That is what separates Jews from lower IQ groups like Muslims. Also East Asians do not go on murdering sprees over cartoon strips that portrays all East Asians as having eyes so small that they practically look like their eyes are closed. My people the Italians do not go on murdering sprees over pop culture media portraying Italians as all being Gangsters and Guidos.
Islam + low IQ + high testosterone = the West’s worst nightmare. Islam literally puts the DIE in DIEversity.
Go piss against the Wailing Wall and watch what they will do to you. Or write a comic with someone shitting on the star of David. In Israel. You will get beaten.
Muslims being less civilized than Jews is nothing new. But Jews are just as hostile as Muslims, just more circumspect about punishing them.
Imagine the bile welling up in his throat as he typed the words and support. Better check on him, he might require grief counselling.
Le Pen père apparently said: “Je suis Charlie… Martel!”
Of course, the biggest backlash of all was the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the ongoing War on Terror. This is perpetrated by a white Christian youth organization known as the US Armed Forces. Whether it is in the the control of responsible adults is a matter of debate.Replies: @ben tillman, @Dave Pinsen
The only act of retribution I recall in the US post-9/11 was the murder of a Sikh someone thought was a Muslim. W. went out of his way to say Muslims as a whole weren’t to blame.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2001#page=1Replies: @Brutusale, @Anon
You know, you don’t have to go by your memory or general impression of how things happened back then. You can use Google.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2001#page=1
Yes, my God yes. Sends them into paroxysms. If you try to get justice for “the wrong” group, they go nuts. They think they have an ordained monopoly on whining. If you try to assume the moral high ground, they go nuts. If you try to interpret history, they go into hysterics. They think they have an ordained monopoly on that, too.
Some years back, an imam issued a fatwa against someone who had insulted Jesus. I forget who, probably some “piss Christ” type Jew. As I understand it, Jesus is a revered figure in Islam, one of the prophets or something. It was hard to shake the impression that Muslims are more willing to punish insults to Christianity than nominal Christians are.
I wonder if the French tend to have high regard for the English culture that disappeared after World War 2, or maybe this is part of the National Front's rebellion against the Gaullist chauvinism of the mainstream conservatives.
As Freud would say, very interesting.Replies: @Falafel
Attitudes towards the U.S. on the French right range from suspicious to hostile, with the FN at the hostile end of the spectrum. There are various complex historical reasons for this. Indeed one of the concerns about Muslims in France is that someday a foreign power (guess who) may arm and incite them to rebellion against the government, as earlier happened in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Kosovo and other places. Americans may think this is a paranoid delusion, especially after 9/11, nonetheless it’s an attitude that needs to be reckoned with.
Sounds about par for the course. I wonder if the “at your feet or at your throat” thing is genetic. Regardless, Razib’s a little totalitarian. That is, a small one.
It is.
BBC News reckons the backlash may have begun (their words) – because Rupert Murdoch has tweeted to the effect that the Muslim community should pull their fingers out and ostracise or otherwise give a hard time to the extremists in their midst.
Speaking of hypocrisy: JM Le Pen spoke of Charlie Hebdo as the enemy of the FN. So why would or should anyone invite the FN to the march?
Right. Instead of killing sprees, European Jews like Luciana Berger simply employ the apparatus of the State to imprison those who note that a Jew is behaving stereotypically.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2001#page=1Replies: @Brutusale, @Anon
“Reported”? How many phony rapes, assaults, hate crimes, etc., are reported every year. Get some numbers on prosecutions and convictions and we can talk.
Why would they have to ? They have gotten most countries to make this illegal and get the police to send people to jail for drawing such pictures.
The only people that fight back against Muslims are Israelis and certain Mongoloid Asian groups like the Burmese.
Slavs do too. But when they do, the US and Western Europe oppose them, especially leftists and neocons.
That doesn’t mean he wanted them exterminated. Anyway, the FN is better off not associating with such a miserable bunch.
“Right. Instead of killing sprees, European Jews like Luciana Berger simply employ the apparatus of the State to imprison those who note that a Jew is behaving stereotypically.”
If Muslims instead of Jews were overrepresented among European elites, the punishment for making fun of Islam in Europe would be the death penalty.
Jews are are more civilized than Muslims, that’s just 100 percent fact. Compare Israel to any Muslim country and see which country is more culturally modern and which country is still culturally stuck in the stone age. Muslim countries are still stuck in B.C times.
Is this just hyperbole, or are you serious? The most detested people in Europe are the far right. And yet there is no death penalty for them. There are a boatload of BS hate crime laws that penalize them and sometimes send them to jail. But the death penalty is something the European elite abhor and reject. No overrepresentation of muslims in the elite will change that. However, if muslims were as represented in the elite as Jews, making fun of islam would no doubt be added to the list of hate crimes.
Fortunately, it would have to take a muslim overreprentation among the population to bring back the death penalty. Unfortunately the current elite, both Jew and Gentile, is doing its level best to make that happen.
Looking at all of the iSteve readers making excuses and defending the barbaric actions of Europe’s Muslim community, I have come to the conclusion that the vast majority of iSteve are straight up spineless chicken yellow belly beta males. Most iSteve readers are not even 1/32 the man that an IDF soldier for example is or Chris Kyle the American patriot who served his country honorably as one of the deadliest sniper shooters in history.
iSteve readers are a bunch of Muslim appeasers. You don’t see this much beta male attitude in regards to how to deal with Europe’s Muslim population on Twitchy and Jared Taylor’s American Renaissance.
Le Pen is a pretty cool guy and he’s very, very funny and biting in his humor.
He does a weekly webshow and it’s pretty obvious that the guy is still mentally agile and still interested in what’s going on around him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he enjoyed at least one rap song.
He’s quite old, though so he will be gone soon. I will miss him.
That #iamCharlieMartel quip is yet another genius one from the goold old menhir ( nickname for LePen). No wonder he’s friends with Dieudonné. They’re both talented comedians in their own way.
So only free speech that you approve of. OK got it . Thanks.Replies: @gzu
This is France. That is how they do it.
Free speech as you know it doesn’t really exist there.
Even the Burmese have enough spine and balls to stand up to radical Muslims and most Burmese males are munchkins in the height department compared to the average Western White male. Yet a 5 foot 5 Burmese male will be more alpha male and have more heart and warrior spirit than a 6 foot tall White man from France or The United Kingdom.
Asian men don’t deserve the beta male stereotype. Those munchkin height Vietnamese soldiers gave the French an ass whopping of a lifetime.
European men are among the tallest men in the world in terms of average height yet their attitude does not match their height.
Some of the most bad ass alpha males on the planet are munchkin height Asian males and Amerindian/Mestizo males from Latin America.
Look at the Munchkin Chicanos who ran many Black thugs out of certain neighborhoods in Los Angeles.
Watch were he pleads for help as a couple of little black? guys smack him around.
Pathetic.
http://www.progressivestoday.com/you-got-a-deathwish-video-emerges-from-oakland-ferguson-beating/
@falafel #44
the Liberals (= free marketers) in France love the USA and “les anglo-saxons” in general but free-marketers indeed don’t count for much in France. The FN used to be a national-liberal party and during the 80s one could say that both Thatcher and Reagan were inspirations for JM LePen.
The defiance towards america is not that surprising. Even in a country like Canada, being (somewhat) anti-american is a mainstream position. I’m talking about mild defiance and mistrust, not serious anti-americanism.
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why don’t you decamp to Tel-Aviv already ? I hear they have lots of gay bars where hard bodied tough IDF soldiers hang out at.
White soccer hooligans in Europe are a bunch of beta males compared to Pakistani and North African Muslims. I have never heard of any incidents in Europe of Muslims ending up in the emergency because they were nearly beaten to death by White soccer hooligans.
White soccer hooligans do not strike fear into the hearts of Muslims in Europe. The only people that fight back against Muslims are Israelis and certain Mongoloid Asian groups like the Burmese.Replies: @gzu
Israelis aren’t “fighting back” aginst anyone. Muslims are fighting back against them.
Also, fighting back implies that an attack from the other side is forthcoming.
The various scandalous cartoons featuring Mohammad (among others) have not been examples of “free speech.” They have not even been examples of pornography. They have been examples of filth, garbage, and provocation. There always is a limit to “free speech.” That’s why raving lunatics get locked up. And now that France has invited millions of Muslims, it should ban the blasphemy of the prophet Mohammad"
I am glad that Islam was extremely disrespected by a bunch of French Atheists. I am tired of Atheists only picking on Christians. What makes Muslims such a special protected group that they should be exempt from negative insults and criticisms ? If Christians have to suffer bullying from Atheists, than so should Muslims.
In a free speech society if jokes about Catholic priests all being pedophiles are tolerated, than jokes about the prophet Muhammad being a pedophile should be tolerated as well.Replies: @gzu
“I am glad that Islam was extremely disrespected by a bunch of French Atheists. I am tired of Atheists only picking on Christians. What makes Muslims such a special protected group that they should be exempt from negative insults and criticisms ? If Christians have to suffer bullying from Atheists, than so should Muslims.
In a free speech society if jokes about Catholic priests all being pedophiles are tolerated, than jokes about the prophet Muhammad being a pedophile should be tolerated as well.”
Who said that it should be tolerated? Even radical Muslims wouldn’t disagree if western countries went after those who insult Christianity. Yours is a false premise. Nobody should suffer bullying from Atheists.
Comparing accurate stereotypes about Jews to insults against a religious founder. Come on.
Go piss against the Wailing Wall and watch what they will do to you. Or write a comic with someone shitting on the star of David. In Israel. You will get beaten.
Muslims being less civilized than Jews is nothing new. But Jews are just as hostile as Muslims, just more circumspect about punishing them.
“I wonder if the “at your feet or at your throat” thing is genetic. ”
It is.
They are doing so because France doesn’t have free speech. in America, it’s different. But those who punish you for “anti semitism” should do similar things for “islamophobia”.
Are radical Muslims a problem in Burma? I thought they were just being dicks, as they are wont to do.
What's wrong with those Buddhists? Why are they so willing to riot and kill over an alms bowl? Why do they take their primitive superstitions so seriously? Are they just genetically prone to violence and fanaticism, or is it their stupid, fanatical cult that makes them act that way? And where are the fabled "moderate Buddhists" who will come out and condemn these atrocities?Replies: @gzu
What about the Serbs and other Slavs? Why did you mention a laundry list of so many who fight muslims, but did not mention them? Was this an oversight, or do you support the US bombing the Serbs and having sided with the muslims?
If Muslims instead of Jews were overrepresented among European elites, the punishment for making fun of Islam in Europe would be the death penalty.
Is this just hyperbole, or are you serious? The most detested people in Europe are the far right. And yet there is no death penalty for them. There are a boatload of BS hate crime laws that penalize them and sometimes send them to jail. But the death penalty is something the European elite abhor and reject. No overrepresentation of muslims in the elite will change that. However, if muslims were as represented in the elite as Jews, making fun of islam would no doubt be added to the list of hate crimes.
Fortunately, it would have to take a muslim overreprentation among the population to bring back the death penalty. Unfortunately the current elite, both Jew and Gentile, is doing its level best to make that happen.
True. Check out this tall White wussbag! Lefty White Ferguson protester.
Watch were he pleads for help as a couple of little black? guys smack him around.
Pathetic.
http://www.progressivestoday.com/you-got-a-deathwish-video-emerges-from-oakland-ferguson-beating/
“In late April, rioters set fire to more than 150 Muslim homes after a Muslim woman on a bicycle bumped into a novice monk, <a title=”"http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/inpictures/2013/05/201352973111407914.html"spilling” href="http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/inpictures/2013/05/201352973111407914.html"spilling his alms bowl. One person was killed and nine others were injured. The woman who bumped into the monk has been charged with ‘deliberate and malicious acts’.”
What’s wrong with those Buddhists? Why are they so willing to riot and kill over an alms bowl? Why do they take their primitive superstitions so seriously? Are they just genetically prone to violence and fanaticism, or is it their stupid, fanatical cult that makes them act that way? And where are the fabled “moderate Buddhists” who will come out and condemn these atrocities?
“In late April, rioters set fire to more than 150 Muslim homes after a Muslim woman on a bicycle bumped into a novice monk, spilling his alms bowl. One person was killed and nine others were injured. The woman who bumped into the monk has been charged with ‘deliberate and malicious acts’.”
What’s wrong with those Buddhists? Why are they so willing to riot and kill over an alms bowl? Why do they take their primitive superstitions so seriously? Are they just genetically prone to violence and fanaticism, or is it their stupid, fanatical cult that makes them act that way? And where are the fabled “moderate Buddhists” who will come out and condemn these atrocities?
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2001#page=1Replies: @Brutusale, @Anon
Your link shows 0 anti-Islamic murders.
Your link shows 0 anti-Islamic murders.
You’re quite right. Unfortunately, neither the FBI nor any other government agency keeps accurate tabs on the number of post-9/11 anti-Islamic murders, but it is possible to find lower and upper bounds for this number (here and here, respectively.)
Not that there weren’t individual murders and attempted murders in the wake of the attacks, but really, if you want to revenge-murder Muslims, why would you do it illegally? Why not join our official violent White Christian youth organization and do it with the blessing of the Empire? Clint Eastwood just made a movie glorifying a guy who joined up with exactly that purpose in mind.
“Piss Christ” was the work of Andres Serrano, an “artist” of mixed Honduran and Afro-Cuban ancestry. Serrano isn’t Jewish.
What's wrong with those Buddhists? Why are they so willing to riot and kill over an alms bowl? Why do they take their primitive superstitions so seriously? Are they just genetically prone to violence and fanaticism, or is it their stupid, fanatical cult that makes them act that way? And where are the fabled "moderate Buddhists" who will come out and condemn these atrocities?Replies: @gzu
I didn’t know these guys were THIS barbaric.