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One of the weirder and more revealing obsessions of the conventional wisdom is the widespread assumption that anybody who mentions America’s obvious problem of Latino Littering, such as Tucker Carlson, Amy Wax, Ann Coulter, or myself, must actually have in mind something unspeakably more evil than littering: we must be accusing Latin American immigrants of Ritual Pollution or Corruption of Blood or the Taint of Amalek or something. “Littering” must be a metaphor for something deep and dark.

But, no, actually, when I point out that Latinos tend to litter a lot, what I really mean, deep down, is that Latinos tend to litter a lot.

In fact, as I’ve said many times over the years, littering is about the most socially constructed problem imaginable and we know we could socially deconstruct, because white people deconstructed their own tendency to litter a lot about a half century ago. In fact, the most famous anti-littering public service announcement, 1971’s “Crying Indian” TV commercial specifically engaged in racial shaming of whites as pointing out that we were uglying up with our littering this beautiful country we took over from the American Indians.

We could probably do something similar with shaming Latinos into not uglying up this beautiful country so much, except that the whole concept that Latinos litter too much is considered, by the conventional wisdom, to be some kind of genocidal dog whistle.

Why this insanity?

I think because progressives tend to have a lot of deep dark racist thoughts that feel like they can only suppress with an immense effort, like Dr. Strangelove’s urge to shout Heil Hitler, by projecting all their racist disgust on to extremely sane and positive-minded people like me who see problems and think about ways to ameliorate them.

 
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  1. Yes, I really liked that crying Indian ad starring Espera Oscar de Corti.

    • LOL: RichardTaylor
    • Replies: @Fred C Dobbs
    The Hekawis on F-Troop were all Jewish or Italian. Ukrainian Charles Bronson could pass, what with that Central-Asiatic mug of his. Jeff Chandler (b. Ira Grossel) as Cochise was a bit of a stretch.
  2. >Why this insanity?<

    Got to protect members of the "coalition of the fringes" from badwhites?

  3. I suspect those who shout the loudest against Sailer, Carlson, et al on the topic only know of Latino Littering second hand. I invite them to drive around Santa Ana, no more than three miles from where I live, and then tell me Latino Littering is a racist fiction.

    I posted a comment to a news story about all the Goodwhites doing their annual Heal-The-Bay beach clean-up not long ago. I pointed out that none of the Goodwhites made any of that mess……they are just cleaning up garbage left by other peoples. I said what they should do is dragoon a few dozen Santa Ana residents and let THEM clean it up…..and that maybe the no-littering message might sink in a bit.

    Naturally this was received just as you might expect by the Goodwhites.

    • Replies: @petit bourgeois
    HEY! I live in Santa Ana! (The good part with half acre lots and big mansions--it's not that bad). They're gentrifying like crazy and the Mexicans are whining about being forced out of their quincanera stores as the fags take over downtown. (Nothing screams Mexico! like a 27 year old man knocking up a 15 year old girl, but I digress).

    Sure it's a shithole, but it's still cleaner than Los Angeles. And we have better tacos.

    Gang graffiti is more of a blight than litter in this town. But your point is valid, sir.
  4. It isn’t “littering”/ It’s hygienic diversity.

    It’s the diffusion of culture.

    • Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers
    Viticulture, meet shiticulture. Cleanliness a white-supremacy social construct. @microbelivesmatter
  5. “We could probably do something similar with shaming Latinos into not uglying up this beautiful country so much…”

    I have an idea for a commercial: A doe eyed Aztec priest is in the midst of a frenzied mass sacrifice and is preparing to bite into his 158th still beating, extracted heart of the day when he is hit in the head with an empty Bud Light tall can. Stunned, he turns to look off into the distance as the shot changes to a 1996 Chevy Tahoe driving off with loud mariachi music blaring out of blown speakers and dual Mexican flags being hoisted off its rear section. The shot turns back not to the priest, but to the face of the latest, quite dead sacrifice participant with what appears to be a tear running down the side of his face.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Too excellent for a simple "LOL"! Someone must buy the rights to this treatment!
    , @ben tillman
    You're a genius!
  6. OT (you all know I don’t do this much, but this is right in iSteve’s wheelhouse):

    Ann Coulter, in another kickass column, “Who’s Doing The Raping? Immigrants—But Don’t Ask ‘LAW & ORDER SVU’!”, says a lot that has been said here about the agenda on TV, etc. However, the 2nd part is more serious, as she describes the Latin-American propensity toward violence against children. This is at the end:

    Incest and child rape are not native American habits. Nor is child rape common in Spain. This isn’t genetic. Bestial behavior toward women and children is a hallmark of primitive, peasant cultures—the cultures we are importing by the million.

    How is it not genetic? These people invading our nation our a mixture of Spanish and those primitive people. Probably the worst ones have greater primitive ancestry and the decent people greater Spanish ancestry.

    Mind you, I really like Ann Coulter and think she bats a .980 (for Steve, probably even higher, as they both think AA for American-ancestor blacks is just A-OK).

    Note that I didn’t mention littering.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Child sex abuse often goes along with drunkeness.

    Not always: e.g. Afghanistan. But alcohol trouble correlates.

    , @Duke84
    They haven't changed much since Aztec times.It's in the blood.
  7. @John Henry
    Yes, I really liked that crying Indian ad starring Espera Oscar de Corti.

    The Hekawis on F-Troop were all Jewish or Italian. Ukrainian Charles Bronson could pass, what with that Central-Asiatic mug of his. Jeff Chandler (b. Ira Grossel) as Cochise was a bit of a stretch.

    • Replies: @John Henry
    But they were not passing themselves off as Indians when not on the screen.
  8. “I think because progressives tend to have a lot of deep dark racist thoughts that feel like they can only suppress with an immense effort…”

    Very Freudian. What have you done with Steve?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    I have long felt that what Steve is saying is correct.

    I don't bear blacks or Hispanics any ill will. Most of my interactions with them are perfectly satisfactory. Nevertheless, I have some views generally regarded as racist, though I try to judge the fairness of them against my ongoing experience. In other words, I don't hold them as dogma, but as current views subject to change based on new information or experiences. I keep these views mostly to myself, but don't blame myself for holding them.

    Progressives, though, hold their belief in the absolute equality of all races as the fundamental article of their faith. All races must be equal in intelligence, character, capabilities, moral fiber, etc. When reality constantly challenges the dogma it causes them a great deal of inner turmoil. They can't even consider the possibility of differences, it has to be angrily rejected and anyone who points it out condemned.
  9. Latino’s aside, generally it’s very difficult to have nice stuff in a multicultural society.

    Multicultural society == elite extraction, squabbling, “i’ll get mine” and heavy state power to keep it together.

    It really takes a one people nation, where people jointly feel “this joint is ours” ownership for people to treat the commons well. “For ourselves and our posterity” is the feeling you need–for littering and for even more important stuff like “rule of law”.

    Renters vs. owners.

  10. I think it is just a matter of lack of acculturation combined with ignorance and stupidity.

    In the Dominican Republic people who live in rural areas don’t have garbage collection and just pitch the trash out of the kitchen window, which has no glass, where most of it is recycled by goats.

    When I had Mexican tenants in the US, they threw cigarette butts everywhere, and their apartments were circled with discarded cue tips used to clean the ears after work.

    People who have never had trash collection when they were growing up in poverty just don’t see the point of it and it is common for smokers of all ethnic types to litter the landscape with cigarette packet cellophane, cigarette packets, used matches, empty matchbooks, and cigarette butts and ash.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    ...and their apartments were circled with discarded cue tips used to clean the ears after work.
     
    Wouldn't that be painful?


    https://www.liveabout.com/thmb/tFHuoPrCypwTWkxxk4hkISr88Jw=/768x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/126134105-crop-56a099fa5f9b58eba4b1f893.jpg
    , @anon
    My grandparents lived on a farm in the Ozarks. They had a trash pile at the edge of the woods behind the house where the tin cans, bottles etc were all tossed for over 60 years. The pile never really grew in size since there wasn't that much trash and it rusted and weathered away. Today you can walk over that spot and never know there are trash/artifacts under the grass beneath your feet.
    Learning not to litter is part of the transition from subsistence level rural life, where the trash is not an issue and therefore not litter, to modern town and city consumer life where the trash is definitely an issue and is therefore litter. People learn if you teach them (if progressivdes allow you to teach them)
    , @Dtbb
    Agree. You should see them on a construction site.
  11. In fact, the most famous anti-littering public service announcement, 1971’s “Crying Indian” TV commercial specifically engaged in racial shaming of whites as pointing out that we were uglying up with our littering this beautiful country we took over from the American Indians.

    I agree with you that this shaming worked, but I feel it was based on a false premise. I don’t believe that BS about the Indians being great stewards of the environment. Pretty much the most disorganized house and yard I’ve ever seen was owned and occupied by the first real Indian I’d ever met.

    OK, that was one datapoint, but when you have only 5 or 10 million of you on a whole big continent like N. America, it’s easy for Mother Gaia to clean up after you. The thing is, that Indian savage culture was never going to result in the manufacture of anything not made of wood, rock, and animal parts. Those are materials you can throw or leave anywhere on the ground, as that’s where they came from. See “Are American Indians Slobs?”.

    Anyway, yeah, the commercial worked on me. I didn’t throw near as many Fresca cans out the car window after that.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    They weren't a monolith, behavior often varied greatly by tribe. Your hunch is correct though the idea that they were great stewards of the land was a mostly a myth. Most reservations today are a mess, they don't take care of what they have now.
  12. shaming Latinos

    Oxymoron alert!

  13. @Achmed E. Newman
    OT (you all know I don't do this much, but this is right in iSteve's wheelhouse):

    Ann Coulter, in another kickass column, "Who's Doing The Raping? Immigrants—But Don't Ask 'LAW & ORDER SVU'!", says a lot that has been said here about the agenda on TV, etc. However, the 2nd part is more serious, as she describes the Latin-American propensity toward violence against children. This is at the end:


    Incest and child rape are not native American habits. Nor is child rape common in Spain. This isn’t genetic. Bestial behavior toward women and children is a hallmark of primitive, peasant cultures—the cultures we are importing by the million.
     
    How is it not genetic? These people invading our nation our a mixture of Spanish and those primitive people. Probably the worst ones have greater primitive ancestry and the decent people greater Spanish ancestry.

    Mind you, I really like Ann Coulter and think she bats a .980 (for Steve, probably even higher, as they both think AA for American-ancestor blacks is just A-OK).

    Note that I didn't mention littering.

    Child sex abuse often goes along with drunkeness.

    Not always: e.g. Afghanistan. But alcohol trouble correlates.

    • Replies: @Ian Smith
    It could be that people who are inclined that way need a little liquid courage to suppress their meager conscience and fear of getting caught.
  14. their apartments were circled with discarded cue tips used to clean the ears after work.

    must’ve had long arms

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
    "must’ve had long arms"

    Only option. Real Q-tips have a warning on the box to never stick them in your ears.
  15. @Fred C Dobbs
    I suspect those who shout the loudest against Sailer, Carlson, et al on the topic only know of Latino Littering second hand. I invite them to drive around Santa Ana, no more than three miles from where I live, and then tell me Latino Littering is a racist fiction.

    I posted a comment to a news story about all the Goodwhites doing their annual Heal-The-Bay beach clean-up not long ago. I pointed out that none of the Goodwhites made any of that mess......they are just cleaning up garbage left by other peoples. I said what they should do is dragoon a few dozen Santa Ana residents and let THEM clean it up.....and that maybe the no-littering message might sink in a bit.

    Naturally this was received just as you might expect by the Goodwhites.

    HEY! I live in Santa Ana! (The good part with half acre lots and big mansions–it’s not that bad). They’re gentrifying like crazy and the Mexicans are whining about being forced out of their quincanera stores as the fags take over downtown. (Nothing screams Mexico! like a 27 year old man knocking up a 15 year old girl, but I digress).

    Sure it’s a shithole, but it’s still cleaner than Los Angeles. And we have better tacos.

    Gang graffiti is more of a blight than litter in this town. But your point is valid, sir.

    • Replies: @Fred C Dobbs
    Ahhhhh.........You must be up around Floral Park then? True, those are some nice areas. Much of the area E of I-5 and N of 17th. is decent too.

    And you are correct that the place is not near as much of a s-hole as LA. But things can get litter-y. There's a 24- hr Starbucks at SE corner of Warner and Bristol, in a shopping center that includes 99 Cent, Santa Buffet and El Super. Drive through the parking lot there at say, 11 pm.....after all the shoppers have left, but before Maintenance does their pre-dawn clean up. It's a sea of discarded fast food bags, plastic water bottles, and Monster cans. FYI - I'm in Tustin.
  16. @Jonathan Mason
    I think it is just a matter of lack of acculturation combined with ignorance and stupidity.

    In the Dominican Republic people who live in rural areas don't have garbage collection and just pitch the trash out of the kitchen window, which has no glass, where most of it is recycled by goats.

    When I had Mexican tenants in the US, they threw cigarette butts everywhere, and their apartments were circled with discarded cue tips used to clean the ears after work.

    People who have never had trash collection when they were growing up in poverty just don't see the point of it and it is common for smokers of all ethnic types to litter the landscape with cigarette packet cellophane, cigarette packets, used matches, empty matchbooks, and cigarette butts and ash.

    …and their apartments were circled with discarded cue tips used to clean the ears after work.

    Wouldn’t that be painful?

    • Replies: @slumber_j
    Back when I lived in Hollywood and played a lot at Hollywood Billiards in the late 80s there was a wizened old Chicano guy called Snake (with the giant customized belt buckle to indicate that fact) who would replace your cue tip for a small fee. He was greatly liked and did good work. That was a sort of Latino anti-littering I guess...
  17. @Faraday's Bobcat

    their apartments were circled with discarded cue tips used to clean the ears after work.
     
    must've had long arms

    “must’ve had long arms”

    Only option. Real Q-tips have a warning on the box to never stick them in your ears.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Only option. Real Q-tips have a warning on the box to never stick them in your ears.
     
    Q-tips are the damndest product: Here's a thing designed to stick in your ears. But don't stick it in your ears.
  18. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason
    I think it is just a matter of lack of acculturation combined with ignorance and stupidity.

    In the Dominican Republic people who live in rural areas don't have garbage collection and just pitch the trash out of the kitchen window, which has no glass, where most of it is recycled by goats.

    When I had Mexican tenants in the US, they threw cigarette butts everywhere, and their apartments were circled with discarded cue tips used to clean the ears after work.

    People who have never had trash collection when they were growing up in poverty just don't see the point of it and it is common for smokers of all ethnic types to litter the landscape with cigarette packet cellophane, cigarette packets, used matches, empty matchbooks, and cigarette butts and ash.

    My grandparents lived on a farm in the Ozarks. They had a trash pile at the edge of the woods behind the house where the tin cans, bottles etc were all tossed for over 60 years. The pile never really grew in size since there wasn’t that much trash and it rusted and weathered away. Today you can walk over that spot and never know there are trash/artifacts under the grass beneath your feet.
    Learning not to litter is part of the transition from subsistence level rural life, where the trash is not an issue and therefore not litter, to modern town and city consumer life where the trash is definitely an issue and is therefore litter. People learn if you teach them (if progressivdes allow you to teach them)

  19. @Jonathan Mason
    I think it is just a matter of lack of acculturation combined with ignorance and stupidity.

    In the Dominican Republic people who live in rural areas don't have garbage collection and just pitch the trash out of the kitchen window, which has no glass, where most of it is recycled by goats.

    When I had Mexican tenants in the US, they threw cigarette butts everywhere, and their apartments were circled with discarded cue tips used to clean the ears after work.

    People who have never had trash collection when they were growing up in poverty just don't see the point of it and it is common for smokers of all ethnic types to litter the landscape with cigarette packet cellophane, cigarette packets, used matches, empty matchbooks, and cigarette butts and ash.

    Agree. You should see them on a construction site.

  20. @Reg Cæsar

    ...and their apartments were circled with discarded cue tips used to clean the ears after work.
     
    Wouldn't that be painful?


    https://www.liveabout.com/thmb/tFHuoPrCypwTWkxxk4hkISr88Jw=/768x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/126134105-crop-56a099fa5f9b58eba4b1f893.jpg

    Back when I lived in Hollywood and played a lot at Hollywood Billiards in the late 80s there was a wizened old Chicano guy called Snake (with the giant customized belt buckle to indicate that fact) who would replace your cue tip for a small fee. He was greatly liked and did good work. That was a sort of Latino anti-littering I guess…

  21. Why the insanity?

    Because it’s a win-win-win-win proposition.

    Win: Assuage your guilt over wanting to live in a “nice neighborhood” with “good schools.” (wink, wink).

    Win: Virtue signal on Facebook about what a Good Person you are and how much you oppose “racism.”

    Win: You get to bully other people and even ruin there lives by snitching on their “racist” transgressions. Junior High Nation! Take that popular kids!

    Win: You get to feel that almost intoxicating feeling of watching the Bad Guy (white people) get what’s coming to him at the hands of the underdog, like at the end of The Karate Kid movies.

    Sure, it’s hugely dishonest, hypocritical, and leaves other people’s neighborhoods a mess, but it’s 2020: Take a look at what so many wealthy people, especially the people who infest the once sleepy boroughs surrounding our nation’s capitol, do for a living. Integrity? That’s so 1950’s.

  22. That was always Zippy’s take (RIP). Aside from their absolute commitment to intersectionality, the liberal really doesn’t have an issue with the Nazi tactic of liquidating problem people as efficiently as possible.

  23. @Steve Sailer
    Child sex abuse often goes along with drunkeness.

    Not always: e.g. Afghanistan. But alcohol trouble correlates.

    It could be that people who are inclined that way need a little liquid courage to suppress their meager conscience and fear of getting caught.

  24. @petit bourgeois
    HEY! I live in Santa Ana! (The good part with half acre lots and big mansions--it's not that bad). They're gentrifying like crazy and the Mexicans are whining about being forced out of their quincanera stores as the fags take over downtown. (Nothing screams Mexico! like a 27 year old man knocking up a 15 year old girl, but I digress).

    Sure it's a shithole, but it's still cleaner than Los Angeles. And we have better tacos.

    Gang graffiti is more of a blight than litter in this town. But your point is valid, sir.

    Ahhhhh………You must be up around Floral Park then? True, those are some nice areas. Much of the area E of I-5 and N of 17th. is decent too.

    And you are correct that the place is not near as much of a s-hole as LA. But things can get litter-y. There’s a 24- hr Starbucks at SE corner of Warner and Bristol, in a shopping center that includes 99 Cent, Santa Buffet and El Super. Drive through the parking lot there at say, 11 pm…..after all the shoppers have left, but before Maintenance does their pre-dawn clean up. It’s a sea of discarded fast food bags, plastic water bottles, and Monster cans. FYI – I’m in Tustin.

    • Replies: @petit bourgeois

    Ahhhhh………You must be up around Floral Park then? True, those are some nice areas. Much of the area E of I-5 and N of 17th. is decent too.
     
    (1) Yes, but I technically live in an adjacent neighborhood from Floral Park ("uptown," for vagueness here to avoid being doxxed, but it is the same neighborhood the corrupt mayor Miguel Pulido (D. D.F.- Mex.) has the largest parcel in the entire city), and (2) the neighborhood north of the 5 is Park Santiago, which is very nice and has houses built in the 1880's. But they're building a new apartment complex on 2525 north main and the city council was bribed by dark money from the developer so they can cram as many people they can into this neck of the woods and the neighborhood is going apeshit. Creating misery to get money is what government is for.

    That's what you get when the electorate and the government is entirely Mexican: corruption. Every political system has bribes, but the Mexicans here take it to another level. There are no petty "mordidas" (bribes) here--only big ones. Tustin doesn't have this problem.


    There’s a 24- hr Starbucks at SE corner of Warner and Bristol, in a shopping center that includes 99 Cent, Santa Buffet and El Super. Drive through the parking lot there at say, 11 pm…..after all the shoppers have left, but before Maintenance does their pre-dawn clean up. It’s a sea of discarded fast food bags, plastic water bottles, and Monster cans.
     
    I know that parking lot and that neighborhood, and I concede it is filthy. The litter is also from the meth-heads (of all colours) / homeless tweakers and 5150s cruising back and forth down Bristol Ave. with their bikes with trailers and shopping carts looking for something to steal.

    Don't ever eat at that buffet lest you want seafood intestinal parasites!

    My grandparents lived in that neighborhood (named "Sunwood Central") from the mid-50's well into the 90's. I went to elementray school there until third grade. It used to be a nice affordable neighborhood after WWII, but now the south side is a dump--and ironically not far from the mega-opulence of South Coast Plaza and the Segerstrom family empire (former lima bean farmers). That three mile stretch down Bristol from your littered parking lot to the shops of Louis Vuitton and Saks is a perfect example of the elite vs. peasant dichotomy in this city.

    My grandfather bought a house in that neighborhood when he worked for McDonell Douglas after retiring from the Marine Corps (MSGT) after 24 years and Tinian, Saipan, Guadalcanal and Korea. I'm so sad to see the town I was born in and grew up in turn into the third world, but when I am the last "gabacho" left in this town, I'm taking the flag with me.

    Here is a tip: the Taqueria Zamorana on the corner of Warner and Flower is hands down the best taco in Orange County. Go for the authentic al pastor grilling on the trompo (vertical rotiserrie aravbic style) with the pina and tortillas hecho a mano and you'll quickly forget what a ghetto you live in.


    FYI – I’m in Tustin.
     
    Tustin is generally nice and hospitable in the daytime, but the Tustin PD has a Gang Unit for a reason. You got third world in your town too. Just go to the bottom of the hill, Redhill or Newport Avenues to those sketchy apartment complexes, to find your third world "vibrancy."

    Other than that, Hello Neighbor! Let's go to Cook's Corner for a drink!

  25. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "We could probably do something similar with shaming Latinos into not uglying up this beautiful country so much..."

    I have an idea for a commercial: A doe eyed Aztec priest is in the midst of a frenzied mass sacrifice and is preparing to bite into his 158th still beating, extracted heart of the day when he is hit in the head with an empty Bud Light tall can. Stunned, he turns to look off into the distance as the shot changes to a 1996 Chevy Tahoe driving off with loud mariachi music blaring out of blown speakers and dual Mexican flags being hoisted off its rear section. The shot turns back not to the priest, but to the face of the latest, quite dead sacrifice participant with what appears to be a tear running down the side of his face.

    Too excellent for a simple “LOL”! Someone must buy the rights to this treatment!

    • Agree: kaganovitch
  26. In Chicago, as a first floor resident in the 1960s, sometimes the third-floor residents next door would toss garbage bags of trash down in the backyard.

    Not Latinos; “African-Americans.”

    • Replies: @Jpp
    I don't disbelieve that Latinos litter, but in my experience, blacks are the chief culprits. For instance, last time I went to the Chicago Art Institute, I decided to walk north up Michigan Avenue to Millennium Park when I was done. Michigan Avenue. Millennium Park. Some of the nicest urban scapes and urban architecture in the world. And in front of me waddled this rather rotund black chick who was plodding forward in a one step, two step manner. Before I was about to pass her (which didn't take long, given her heavyset physique and pathetic weezing pace), she crumpled up her Mcdonald's bag and just chucked it into the middle of the sidewalk, flippantly tossing her XL soda over her shoulder to boot. "Dat was goood yo" I heard her mouthing as I traversed past. I then thought: should I pick up her trash? She had just desecrated one of the nicest areas of one of my favorite cities. But surely, I figured, it is beneath my dignity to play the garbage man of some raggedy black. So I just continued walking by. In retrospect, I think I might have done to pick up the trash shove it into her outsized bosom, and to inform her that she'd dropped something. But I am not convinced I could have pulled that off in an appropriately shaming manner. How to to effectively shame the litterers is the pressing question.
  27. “But, no, actually, when I point out that Latinos tend to litter a lot, what I really mean, deep down, is that Latinos tend to litter a lot.”

    So do whites. And blacks. Hell, it’s everyone. Do some NOTICING, Mr. Sailer, rather than playing up to your base.

    https://www.creditdonkey.com/littering-statistics.html

    http://www.europeancleaningjournal.com/magazine/articles/case-studies/littering-our-dirty-europe

    From 2007…https://www.chron.com/news/nation-world/article/Litter-choking-streets-throughout-Mexico-1824829.php

    Mexican environmental officials say that only several dozen of Mexico’s more than 2,500 cities, towns and villages have a landfill or other kind of municipal garbage dump. “There is a lack of political will,” said Jorge Trevino, director of ECOCE (Ecología y Compromiso Empresarial), an industry-funded group that manages recycling and public awareness campaigns. “There is a lack of infrastructure. In many cities, there is a lack of planning. There is nowhere to put the trash.” Like many of its social problems, Mexico’s litter epidemic may be anchored in a deeply entrenched political system in which citizen input has been discouraged.

    Litter has become a global problem, of course. But societies like Mexico’s, whose exploding and still-poor populations crowd into cities and consume packaged food rather than what they produce themselves, suffer the most from it. “There has been a more dramatic change in the types of waste we are producing than in the culture of disposing of that waste,” said Padron, the Mexico City environmentalist. “Trash has been seen only as waste and not as valuable material that can be recycled.”

    • LOL: ic1000
  28. “I think because progressives tend to have a lot of deep dark racist thoughts that feel like they can only suppress with an immense effort, like Dr. Strangelove’s urge to shout Heil Hitler, by projecting all their racist disgust on to extremely sane and positive-minded people like me who see problems and think about ways to ameliorate them.”

    I resemble that remark!

  29. I grew up in LA and my family often went to tide pools. Frequently the Mexicans would show up and take sea creatures and just throw them on the beach to die. We would always be quiet when we saw a pretty thing, knowing this could happen. Who knew that in 30 years they would be benighted as noble saviors of the US, morally superior.

    • Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.)
    In Monterey and north, it's Asians with buckets, quite in the open, collecting all sorts of sea creatures, with plenty of pictorial signs around indicating creatures from tide pools should not be collected. I do remind visitors from time to time collecting is illegal, but there are suddenly language comprehension issues -- imagine that. (This isn't the 1930s, Ed Ricketts and John Steinbeck are not wandering around tiny, poor, and isolated Monterey rich in marine life.) It has also been my experience most native born Americans with Asian ancestry are just as fiercely protective of the environment as anyone else who loves nature. But that's assimilation.

    So -- in general to the thread now, not your comment -- I don't give a rat's @ss about whatever rural Mexican littering environment some Mexican grew up in. Assimilate quickly, or be expelled. I will say the hypocrisy of liberal Californians knows no bounds, and they will indeed rush to excuse any environmental degradation in the name of diversity.
    , @kihowi

    s they would be benighted as noble saviors of the US, morally superior.
     
    They are, in the way you meant it and in the way you expressed it.
  30. In RI, where I used to live, the illegals throw everything on the ground, out car windows, even in public parks. One park where we used to go, you would routinely see groups of these scumbags including their kids throwing chicken bones on the ground, too lazy to walk to a garbage can. The park soon developed a problem with rats. These people are a walking disease.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    These people are a walking disease.

    Patty Hearst's mother was quoted as having said, "Mexico isn't a country, it's a disease."
  31. I think it’s primarily because they’re totalitarians.

  32. • Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Don't Mess with Texas. Up to $2000 fine for littering.
     
    Heavy-handed threat and the small print might not be so easily understood by Spanish speakers.

    Would be better to say "Don't Mess Up Texas" and leave out the "up to", and have some kind of graphic picture like this:

    https://cdn4.vectorstock.com/i/1000x1000/72/58/no-littering-vector-5627258.jpg

    In Spanish the word "basura" means both "litter" and "trash", which could also cause confusion. The word "fine" means "end".
  33. “Disparate impact” needs to be turned on its head: Black crime, Latinx littering, lgbtqwerty perversion need to be attacked not shamed. Shame doesn’t work with stupid/insane people.

    • Agree: Dtbb
    • Replies: @newrouter
    >Shame doesn’t work with stupid/insane/evil people.<

    Eric Holder says Barr 'unfit' to serve as attorney general

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/12/politics/eric-holder-william-barr-unfit-attorney-general/index.html
  34. @Ozymandias
    "I think because progressives tend to have a lot of deep dark racist thoughts that feel like they can only suppress with an immense effort..."

    Very Freudian. What have you done with Steve?

    I have long felt that what Steve is saying is correct.

    I don’t bear blacks or Hispanics any ill will. Most of my interactions with them are perfectly satisfactory. Nevertheless, I have some views generally regarded as racist, though I try to judge the fairness of them against my ongoing experience. In other words, I don’t hold them as dogma, but as current views subject to change based on new information or experiences. I keep these views mostly to myself, but don’t blame myself for holding them.

    Progressives, though, hold their belief in the absolute equality of all races as the fundamental article of their faith. All races must be equal in intelligence, character, capabilities, moral fiber, etc. When reality constantly challenges the dogma it causes them a great deal of inner turmoil. They can’t even consider the possibility of differences, it has to be angrily rejected and anyone who points it out condemned.

    • Agree: ic1000, Mr. Anon
    • Replies: @El Dato

    Progressives, though, hold their belief in the absolute equality of all races as the fundamental article of their faith.
     
    Except that they also consider their own "community" the most racist, self-destructive, mysogynist, Nazi, anti-communist, anti-semitic, capitalistic etc. etc., -- but they are one of the few who have seen the light and can show the way (this includes trans-ing one's children, identifying as They, seeing movies about how one's behaviour is very bad against the usual victims etc.).

    It's very much a Mass Messiah Complex.
  35. Steve you need to write about this bullshit sociology paper about unjustified police shootings reducing black birth weights being retracted after getting owned by some rando on Twitter. https://mobile.twitter.com/jlegewie/status/1204973753874178048

    The story is absurd; at best this guy was totally careless and his hypothesis was too good to check (the guy on Twitter debunked the codings or whether the people shot by the cops were armed or unarmed in about an hour). At worst he fabricated the codings to fit his hypothesis and hoped no one would check and came up with this week beer excuse when he got caught. (He claims there was a bug in the code used to convert mTurk ratings, but why would these random codings yield data supporting exactly what a SJW sociologist would hypothesize?)

    But at least the scientific record isn’t shitted up with this imaginary pseudoscience anymore. What’s worse is the dozens of fawning responses lauding his commitment to science and integrity. How is being (at best) a careless, incurious, skepticism-free bullshit monger the same as integrity? And the worst part is I doubt they will retract all the bullshit write ups in nationally prominent periodicals about this voodoo.

  36. EL CAMINO a good movie?

  37. @newrouter
    "Disparate impact" needs to be turned on its head: Black crime, Latinx littering, lgbtqwerty perversion need to be attacked not shamed. Shame doesn't work with stupid/insane people.

    >Shame doesn’t work with stupid/insane/evil people.<

    Eric Holder says Barr 'unfit' to serve as attorney general

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/12/politics/eric-holder-william-barr-unfit-attorney-general/index.html

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    It may be fanboyism or cult blindness but Barr gives me the feeling that he's the best kind of convert: not originally a Trumper, he came to town and saw that, my god, it's all true, and now he's better than Sessions or Bannon.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    I listened to Barr's recent speech at the Federalist Society and the interviews he gave on the Horowitz report. He comes across as serious, fair, and cautious in his assertions; i.e., not willing to go beyond anything that can be proven at this time. In other words, the very best sort of Attorney General. Contrast this with the shamelessly lying and hyperbolic Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, and Nancy Pelosi, who flout all standards of decency and fairness. Yet Eric Holder would consider the latter the best sorts of public servants. They're his sort of people.
  38. @Achmed E. Newman

    In fact, the most famous anti-littering public service announcement, 1971’s “Crying Indian” TV commercial specifically engaged in racial shaming of whites as pointing out that we were uglying up with our littering this beautiful country we took over from the American Indians.
     
    I agree with you that this shaming worked, but I feel it was based on a false premise. I don't believe that BS about the Indians being great stewards of the environment. Pretty much the most disorganized house and yard I've ever seen was owned and occupied by the first real Indian I'd ever met.

    OK, that was one datapoint, but when you have only 5 or 10 million of you on a whole big continent like N. America, it's easy for Mother Gaia to clean up after you. The thing is, that Indian savage culture was never going to result in the manufacture of anything not made of wood, rock, and animal parts. Those are materials you can throw or leave anywhere on the ground, as that's where they came from. See "Are American Indians Slobs?".

    Anyway, yeah, the commercial worked on me. I didn't throw near as many Fresca cans out the car window after that.

    They weren’t a monolith, behavior often varied greatly by tribe. Your hunch is correct though the idea that they were great stewards of the land was a mostly a myth. Most reservations today are a mess, they don’t take care of what they have now.

  39. Brown.

    It’s brown littering.

    I saw the exact same thing during my 4 years in North Africa.

  40. anon[366] • Disclaimer says:

    They weren’t a monolith, behavior often varied greatly by tribe.

    Some practices were wide spread. “Head smashed in” in Canada is one example. Ulm Pishkun is another.

    Ulm Pishkun Buffalo Jump is likely the largest buffalo jump in the world. It was used by the Native Americans in the area between 900 and 1500 AD. The cliffs themselves stretch for more than a mile and the site below has compacted bison bones nearly 13 feet (4.0 m) deep.

    https://infogalactic.com/info/Buffalo_jump

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Cows and similar beasts like bison tend to be freaked out by straight lines on the ground, such as road stripes or rocks laid out in a row. Ancient peoples herded wild cattle over cliffs by laying small rocks on the ground in straight lines, which the animals were averse to crossing.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Ulm Pishkun Buffalo Jump is likely the largest buffalo jump in the world.
     
    Amazing. How did they drive the bison all the way to Baden-Württemberg? And why name it for a Russian poet?
  41. @anon
    They weren’t a monolith, behavior often varied greatly by tribe.

    Some practices were wide spread. "Head smashed in" in Canada is one example. Ulm Pishkun is another.

    Ulm Pishkun Buffalo Jump is likely the largest buffalo jump in the world. It was used by the Native Americans in the area between 900 and 1500 AD. The cliffs themselves stretch for more than a mile and the site below has compacted bison bones nearly 13 feet (4.0 m) deep.
     
    https://infogalactic.com/info/Buffalo_jump

    Cows and similar beasts like bison tend to be freaked out by straight lines on the ground, such as road stripes or rocks laid out in a row. Ancient peoples herded wild cattle over cliffs by laying small rocks on the ground in straight lines, which the animals were averse to crossing.

  42. @Joe Stalin
    In Chicago, as a first floor resident in the 1960s, sometimes the third-floor residents next door would toss garbage bags of trash down in the backyard.

    Not Latinos; "African-Americans."

    I don’t disbelieve that Latinos litter, but in my experience, blacks are the chief culprits. For instance, last time I went to the Chicago Art Institute, I decided to walk north up Michigan Avenue to Millennium Park when I was done. Michigan Avenue. Millennium Park. Some of the nicest urban scapes and urban architecture in the world. And in front of me waddled this rather rotund black chick who was plodding forward in a one step, two step manner. Before I was about to pass her (which didn’t take long, given her heavyset physique and pathetic weezing pace), she crumpled up her Mcdonald’s bag and just chucked it into the middle of the sidewalk, flippantly tossing her XL soda over her shoulder to boot. “Dat was goood yo” I heard her mouthing as I traversed past. I then thought: should I pick up her trash? She had just desecrated one of the nicest areas of one of my favorite cities. But surely, I figured, it is beneath my dignity to play the garbage man of some raggedy black. So I just continued walking by. In retrospect, I think I might have done to pick up the trash shove it into her outsized bosom, and to inform her that she’d dropped something. But I am not convinced I could have pulled that off in an appropriately shaming manner. How to to effectively shame the litterers is the pressing question.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    Whatever your manner, she was doubtless unshameable.
    , @William Badwhite
    Good thing you didn't say anything. It is illegal to criticize black people in public. You'd have been loudly greeted with "Oh no you di-int!!", complete with head bobbing.
    , @JMcG
    Not in the days of cell phones. She’d have made a call and you’d be maimed or dead.
  43. I think it has nothing neurotic to do with race (except for certain general racial characters): when a person of any race is not up to (or not aware of) a standard, and this standard is pointed out by someone (intending no malice), there’s a likelihood of the slob honestly concluding that the standard is actually not real but some kind of attack. This is exactly the posture we see in almost all the numerous admissions by various nonwhites that they do not belong here, and that they are insulted by any possibility of belonging. This is the whole discussion about blacks in the criminal justice system.

  44. @newrouter
    >Shame doesn’t work with stupid/insane/evil people.<

    Eric Holder says Barr 'unfit' to serve as attorney general

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/12/politics/eric-holder-william-barr-unfit-attorney-general/index.html

    It may be fanboyism or cult blindness but Barr gives me the feeling that he’s the best kind of convert: not originally a Trumper, he came to town and saw that, my god, it’s all true, and now he’s better than Sessions or Bannon.

  45. First of all, Corona, Queens in AOC’s district is covered in litter and guys pimping out 15 year old Salvadoran girls on Roosevelt Avenue. But it’s not just Latino immigrants who litter. I live in a very Russian/former Soviet area and the commercial and common streets have shocking amounts of litter. Fall-out-of-your-hand-when you’re-done-with-it type litter. Cigarette butts. Any kind of food wrapper. Drinks containers.

    These are people who do not value the public space. The ex-Sovs’ culture is to have no respect for public space. Putting away your litter is like doing unpaid work. The Third World immigrants come from places where the public spaces are crowded and dirty, and only private spaces are maintained.

    Limiting the volume of immigration, requiring English, not allowing the establishment of colonies by bringing over your aged parents and your weird uncle and troubled nephew. Thus might hold back the collapse of public spaces for awhile. At some stage Americans might just decide it’s easier to just go ahead and litter themselves.

    Of course, African-Americans whose families have been here centuries litter a lot, too. But that’s just to be insolent.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
  46. @Fred C Dobbs
    Ahhhhh.........You must be up around Floral Park then? True, those are some nice areas. Much of the area E of I-5 and N of 17th. is decent too.

    And you are correct that the place is not near as much of a s-hole as LA. But things can get litter-y. There's a 24- hr Starbucks at SE corner of Warner and Bristol, in a shopping center that includes 99 Cent, Santa Buffet and El Super. Drive through the parking lot there at say, 11 pm.....after all the shoppers have left, but before Maintenance does their pre-dawn clean up. It's a sea of discarded fast food bags, plastic water bottles, and Monster cans. FYI - I'm in Tustin.

    Ahhhhh………You must be up around Floral Park then? True, those are some nice areas. Much of the area E of I-5 and N of 17th. is decent too.

    (1) Yes, but I technically live in an adjacent neighborhood from Floral Park (“uptown,” for vagueness here to avoid being doxxed, but it is the same neighborhood the corrupt mayor Miguel Pulido (D. D.F.- Mex.) has the largest parcel in the entire city), and (2) the neighborhood north of the 5 is Park Santiago, which is very nice and has houses built in the 1880’s. But they’re building a new apartment complex on 2525 north main and the city council was bribed by dark money from the developer so they can cram as many people they can into this neck of the woods and the neighborhood is going apeshit. Creating misery to get money is what government is for.

    That’s what you get when the electorate and the government is entirely Mexican: corruption. Every political system has bribes, but the Mexicans here take it to another level. There are no petty “mordidas” (bribes) here–only big ones. Tustin doesn’t have this problem.

    There’s a 24- hr Starbucks at SE corner of Warner and Bristol, in a shopping center that includes 99 Cent, Santa Buffet and El Super. Drive through the parking lot there at say, 11 pm…..after all the shoppers have left, but before Maintenance does their pre-dawn clean up. It’s a sea of discarded fast food bags, plastic water bottles, and Monster cans.

    I know that parking lot and that neighborhood, and I concede it is filthy. The litter is also from the meth-heads (of all colours) / homeless tweakers and 5150s cruising back and forth down Bristol Ave. with their bikes with trailers and shopping carts looking for something to steal.

    Don’t ever eat at that buffet lest you want seafood intestinal parasites!

    My grandparents lived in that neighborhood (named “Sunwood Central”) from the mid-50’s well into the 90’s. I went to elementray school there until third grade. It used to be a nice affordable neighborhood after WWII, but now the south side is a dump–and ironically not far from the mega-opulence of South Coast Plaza and the Segerstrom family empire (former lima bean farmers). That three mile stretch down Bristol from your littered parking lot to the shops of Louis Vuitton and Saks is a perfect example of the elite vs. peasant dichotomy in this city.

    My grandfather bought a house in that neighborhood when he worked for McDonell Douglas after retiring from the Marine Corps (MSGT) after 24 years and Tinian, Saipan, Guadalcanal and Korea. I’m so sad to see the town I was born in and grew up in turn into the third world, but when I am the last “gabacho” left in this town, I’m taking the flag with me.

    Here is a tip: the Taqueria Zamorana on the corner of Warner and Flower is hands down the best taco in Orange County. Go for the authentic al pastor grilling on the trompo (vertical rotiserrie aravbic style) with the pina and tortillas hecho a mano and you’ll quickly forget what a ghetto you live in.

    FYI – I’m in Tustin.

    Tustin is generally nice and hospitable in the daytime, but the Tustin PD has a Gang Unit for a reason. You got third world in your town too. Just go to the bottom of the hill, Redhill or Newport Avenues to those sketchy apartment complexes, to find your third world “vibrancy.”

    Other than that, Hello Neighbor! Let’s go to Cook’s Corner for a drink!

  47. anonymous[281] • Disclaimer says:

    Here in Indianapolis most of the individual litter can be attributed to black people. I’m talking about a candy wrapper or a soda bottle or a potato chip bag. It all adds up into an unsightly mess over time.

    A busted open garbage bag on the side of the road with all of its contents at the mercy of the wind can be safely assumed to have come off the roof of a Latino’s car while being un-securely transported somewhere.

  48. @Jpp
    I don't disbelieve that Latinos litter, but in my experience, blacks are the chief culprits. For instance, last time I went to the Chicago Art Institute, I decided to walk north up Michigan Avenue to Millennium Park when I was done. Michigan Avenue. Millennium Park. Some of the nicest urban scapes and urban architecture in the world. And in front of me waddled this rather rotund black chick who was plodding forward in a one step, two step manner. Before I was about to pass her (which didn't take long, given her heavyset physique and pathetic weezing pace), she crumpled up her Mcdonald's bag and just chucked it into the middle of the sidewalk, flippantly tossing her XL soda over her shoulder to boot. "Dat was goood yo" I heard her mouthing as I traversed past. I then thought: should I pick up her trash? She had just desecrated one of the nicest areas of one of my favorite cities. But surely, I figured, it is beneath my dignity to play the garbage man of some raggedy black. So I just continued walking by. In retrospect, I think I might have done to pick up the trash shove it into her outsized bosom, and to inform her that she'd dropped something. But I am not convinced I could have pulled that off in an appropriately shaming manner. How to to effectively shame the litterers is the pressing question.

    Whatever your manner, she was doubtless unshameable.

  49. @anon
    They weren’t a monolith, behavior often varied greatly by tribe.

    Some practices were wide spread. "Head smashed in" in Canada is one example. Ulm Pishkun is another.

    Ulm Pishkun Buffalo Jump is likely the largest buffalo jump in the world. It was used by the Native Americans in the area between 900 and 1500 AD. The cliffs themselves stretch for more than a mile and the site below has compacted bison bones nearly 13 feet (4.0 m) deep.
     
    https://infogalactic.com/info/Buffalo_jump

    Ulm Pishkun Buffalo Jump is likely the largest buffalo jump in the world.

    Amazing. How did they drive the bison all the way to Baden-Württemberg? And why name it for a Russian poet?

    • Replies: @Blackbodies
    Pushkin was, in fact, a negro after all.
  50. @eric
    I grew up in LA and my family often went to tide pools. Frequently the Mexicans would show up and take sea creatures and just throw them on the beach to die. We would always be quiet when we saw a pretty thing, knowing this could happen. Who knew that in 30 years they would be benighted as noble saviors of the US, morally superior.

    In Monterey and north, it’s Asians with buckets, quite in the open, collecting all sorts of sea creatures, with plenty of pictorial signs around indicating creatures from tide pools should not be collected. I do remind visitors from time to time collecting is illegal, but there are suddenly language comprehension issues — imagine that. (This isn’t the 1930s, Ed Ricketts and John Steinbeck are not wandering around tiny, poor, and isolated Monterey rich in marine life.) It has also been my experience most native born Americans with Asian ancestry are just as fiercely protective of the environment as anyone else who loves nature. But that’s assimilation.

    So — in general to the thread now, not your comment — I don’t give a rat’s @ss about whatever rural Mexican littering environment some Mexican grew up in. Assimilate quickly, or be expelled. I will say the hypocrisy of liberal Californians knows no bounds, and they will indeed rush to excuse any environmental degradation in the name of diversity.

  51. @Reg Cæsar

    Ulm Pishkun Buffalo Jump is likely the largest buffalo jump in the world.
     
    Amazing. How did they drive the bison all the way to Baden-Württemberg? And why name it for a Russian poet?

    Pushkin was, in fact, a negro after all.

  52. People have to be taught to hold onto their trash long enough to drop it into the proper receptacle. The only natural instinct that people have regarding trash is to get rid of it.

    Some people probably do this as an expression of malice or contempt for social norms, but I’d guess that most litterbugs (there’s an outdated term) drop their trash wherever they happen to be because they’ve never been taught not to do so. Unfortunately, civilization is bound together by a chain of behaviors that don’t come naturally, and our society lacks the self-confidence to insist that outsiders or newcomers conform to these norms.

    As has been pointed out here before, it’s not that long ago that most people, including middle class whites, threw bottles and paper bags out the car window when they were done with them. But this was subject to improvement because there’s no stigma associated with pressuring middle-class whites to change their behavior. So they were shamed, and fined, and stigmatized, until they stopped throwing their trash wherever.

    Today, however, such pressure can only be applied selectively, and only in pursuit of spurious social goals.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    It took about 20 years to change white middle class attitudes to this (1970s-90s). It was achieved by a combination of media propaganda, social shaming, and police coercion. Nowadays dropping trash in public places is unthinkable. You can probably condition other groups to think likewise, but it's not going to happen overnight.
    , @Mr. Anon

    As has been pointed out here before, it’s not that long ago that most people, including middle class whites, threw bottles and paper bags out the car window when they were done with them.
     
    So I have often been told, and yet I grew up in the 70s and I don't remember ever having seen it happen.
  53. Anonymous[231] • Disclaimer says:
    @black sea
    People have to be taught to hold onto their trash long enough to drop it into the proper receptacle. The only natural instinct that people have regarding trash is to get rid of it.

    Some people probably do this as an expression of malice or contempt for social norms, but I'd guess that most litterbugs (there's an outdated term) drop their trash wherever they happen to be because they've never been taught not to do so. Unfortunately, civilization is bound together by a chain of behaviors that don't come naturally, and our society lacks the self-confidence to insist that outsiders or newcomers conform to these norms.

    As has been pointed out here before, it's not that long ago that most people, including middle class whites, threw bottles and paper bags out the car window when they were done with them. But this was subject to improvement because there's no stigma associated with pressuring middle-class whites to change their behavior. So they were shamed, and fined, and stigmatized, until they stopped throwing their trash wherever.

    Today, however, such pressure can only be applied selectively, and only in pursuit of spurious social goals.

    It took about 20 years to change white middle class attitudes to this (1970s-90s). It was achieved by a combination of media propaganda, social shaming, and police coercion. Nowadays dropping trash in public places is unthinkable. You can probably condition other groups to think likewise, but it’s not going to happen overnight.

  54. Ask Victor Davis Hansen about this subject

  55. Mexicans are much worse, but, to be fair, white people (proles) also litter. Even in mostly white and supposed first-world places such as Canada or Germany (countries which have 5 or 6 different types of trashcan for every different type of trash). Since childhood I got used to never throw things on the streets, much less somewhere in nature, so for me littering is particularly abhorrent. But most people don’t really seem to care. Some even live surrounded by trash and don’t seem to mind.

    • Replies: @Lurker

    Even in mostly white and supposed first-world places such as Canada or Germany
     
    My impression in Germany is that litter is almost non-existent. I remember parking by the road in some rural area and realising the only litter was a couple of cigarette butts. At home there would at least have been a plastic bag hanging in the bushes, a squashed coke can or two lying about.
  56. @Achmed E. Newman
    OT (you all know I don't do this much, but this is right in iSteve's wheelhouse):

    Ann Coulter, in another kickass column, "Who's Doing The Raping? Immigrants—But Don't Ask 'LAW & ORDER SVU'!", says a lot that has been said here about the agenda on TV, etc. However, the 2nd part is more serious, as she describes the Latin-American propensity toward violence against children. This is at the end:


    Incest and child rape are not native American habits. Nor is child rape common in Spain. This isn’t genetic. Bestial behavior toward women and children is a hallmark of primitive, peasant cultures—the cultures we are importing by the million.
     
    How is it not genetic? These people invading our nation our a mixture of Spanish and those primitive people. Probably the worst ones have greater primitive ancestry and the decent people greater Spanish ancestry.

    Mind you, I really like Ann Coulter and think she bats a .980 (for Steve, probably even higher, as they both think AA for American-ancestor blacks is just A-OK).

    Note that I didn't mention littering.

    They haven’t changed much since Aztec times.It’s in the blood.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  57. The early 20th century progressives were pretty based when it came to race.

  58. Alternative theories:
    1) The area was always filthy. Any improvement was caused by the demise of newspapers and deposits for the return of bottles. This might be undone by the foodie revival, like food trucks everywhere, made possible by cheap immigrant labor. It is also possible there are more children now.

    2) The city is running low on cash to clean things. I suspect there are overflowing garbage cans where the litter is.

    3) Tourists.

    4) Maybe the local people like it that way.

  59. @MM2
    In RI, where I used to live, the illegals throw everything on the ground, out car windows, even in public parks. One park where we used to go, you would routinely see groups of these scumbags including their kids throwing chicken bones on the ground, too lazy to walk to a garbage can. The park soon developed a problem with rats. These people are a walking disease.

    These people are a walking disease.

    Patty Hearst’s mother was quoted as having said, “Mexico isn’t a country, it’s a disease.”

  60. @Fred C Dobbs
    The Hekawis on F-Troop were all Jewish or Italian. Ukrainian Charles Bronson could pass, what with that Central-Asiatic mug of his. Jeff Chandler (b. Ira Grossel) as Cochise was a bit of a stretch.

    But they were not passing themselves off as Indians when not on the screen.

  61. @newrouter
    >Shame doesn’t work with stupid/insane/evil people.<

    Eric Holder says Barr 'unfit' to serve as attorney general

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/12/politics/eric-holder-william-barr-unfit-attorney-general/index.html

    I listened to Barr’s recent speech at the Federalist Society and the interviews he gave on the Horowitz report. He comes across as serious, fair, and cautious in his assertions; i.e., not willing to go beyond anything that can be proven at this time. In other words, the very best sort of Attorney General. Contrast this with the shamelessly lying and hyperbolic Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, and Nancy Pelosi, who flout all standards of decency and fairness. Yet Eric Holder would consider the latter the best sorts of public servants. They’re his sort of people.

    • Replies: @CCZ
    "shamelessly lying and hyperbolic Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, and Nancy Pelosi, who flout all standards of decency and fairness"

    But they did stay focused; didn't watch golf during the hearings:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10gRf6IBN4E
  62. @Ozymandias
    "must’ve had long arms"

    Only option. Real Q-tips have a warning on the box to never stick them in your ears.

    Only option. Real Q-tips have a warning on the box to never stick them in your ears.

    Q-tips are the damndest product: Here’s a thing designed to stick in your ears. But don’t stick it in your ears.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Q-tips are the damndest product: Here’s a thing designed to stick in your ears. But don’t stick it in your ears.
     
    It seems that way, but medical professionals do not recommend sticking them in your ear as they can make the problem worse, and if loose cotton strands get stuck in your ear, an infection can ensue.

    Many years ago in Bermuda I knew a Registered Nurse who was walking along a hallway while poking her ear with a Q-tip cotton swab on a stick. She slipped on a damp patch of vinyl where some rainwater had leaked in, and hit her head against the wall. The Q-tip punctured her ear drum and she had an epileptic seizure. So not recommended. Not at all.

    The best way to remove earwax is to sluice the ear with hot water in the shower, or if that is ineffective flush with a bulb syringe or other large syringe filled with warm water. There are commercially available products to loosen plugged earwax, usually containing a mixture of peroxide and glycerin, or you can use the liquid in Colace constipation capsules if you are cheap and have some handy.

    Needless to say, do not try any of this at home. Go to your doctor's office and pay them $150 to do it for you.
    , @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Go to your doctor’s office and pay them $150 to do it for you.
     
    Excellent advice. About every five years, I pretty much go deaf. So I head down to the doctor's, they remove almost cork-sized ear wax plugs from each of my ears, and I can hear again. The idea I'm gonna resolve problems like that with Q-tips, or putting warm water in my ears, seems like nonsense. Might work for some people, but those people probably don't need much help.
    , @Anonymous
    It's just a legal liability issue. Obviously, the manufacturer wants you to put them in your ears. Otherwise sales of their product would collapse. They just don't want to be blamed for clumsy idiots who injure themselves doing this.
  63. @black sea
    People have to be taught to hold onto their trash long enough to drop it into the proper receptacle. The only natural instinct that people have regarding trash is to get rid of it.

    Some people probably do this as an expression of malice or contempt for social norms, but I'd guess that most litterbugs (there's an outdated term) drop their trash wherever they happen to be because they've never been taught not to do so. Unfortunately, civilization is bound together by a chain of behaviors that don't come naturally, and our society lacks the self-confidence to insist that outsiders or newcomers conform to these norms.

    As has been pointed out here before, it's not that long ago that most people, including middle class whites, threw bottles and paper bags out the car window when they were done with them. But this was subject to improvement because there's no stigma associated with pressuring middle-class whites to change their behavior. So they were shamed, and fined, and stigmatized, until they stopped throwing their trash wherever.

    Today, however, such pressure can only be applied selectively, and only in pursuit of spurious social goals.

    As has been pointed out here before, it’s not that long ago that most people, including middle class whites, threw bottles and paper bags out the car window when they were done with them.

    So I have often been told, and yet I grew up in the 70s and I don’t remember ever having seen it happen.

  64. “Why this insanity?

    I think because progressives …”

    That’s very thoughtful and kind of you, but it’s simpler than that. Modern progressivism is just a form of insanity, so it can never respond in a non-insane way to anything.

  65. @ziggurat
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Mess_with_Texas

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Donotmesswithtexas.jpg

    Don’t Mess with Texas. Up to $2000 fine for littering.

    Heavy-handed threat and the small print might not be so easily understood by Spanish speakers.

    Would be better to say “Don’t Mess Up Texas” and leave out the “up to”, and have some kind of graphic picture like this:

    In Spanish the word “basura” means both “litter” and “trash”, which could also cause confusion. The word “fine” means “end”.

  66. The opposite of Latino Littering may well be White Hoovering – removal of spots of magic dirt for squirreling away, storing in garages etc.

  67. @Harry Baldwin
    I have long felt that what Steve is saying is correct.

    I don't bear blacks or Hispanics any ill will. Most of my interactions with them are perfectly satisfactory. Nevertheless, I have some views generally regarded as racist, though I try to judge the fairness of them against my ongoing experience. In other words, I don't hold them as dogma, but as current views subject to change based on new information or experiences. I keep these views mostly to myself, but don't blame myself for holding them.

    Progressives, though, hold their belief in the absolute equality of all races as the fundamental article of their faith. All races must be equal in intelligence, character, capabilities, moral fiber, etc. When reality constantly challenges the dogma it causes them a great deal of inner turmoil. They can't even consider the possibility of differences, it has to be angrily rejected and anyone who points it out condemned.

    Progressives, though, hold their belief in the absolute equality of all races as the fundamental article of their faith.

    Except that they also consider their own “community” the most racist, self-destructive, mysogynist, Nazi, anti-communist, anti-semitic, capitalistic etc. etc., — but they are one of the few who have seen the light and can show the way (this includes trans-ing one’s children, identifying as They, seeing movies about how one’s behaviour is very bad against the usual victims etc.).

    It’s very much a Mass Messiah Complex.

  68. @Jpp
    I don't disbelieve that Latinos litter, but in my experience, blacks are the chief culprits. For instance, last time I went to the Chicago Art Institute, I decided to walk north up Michigan Avenue to Millennium Park when I was done. Michigan Avenue. Millennium Park. Some of the nicest urban scapes and urban architecture in the world. And in front of me waddled this rather rotund black chick who was plodding forward in a one step, two step manner. Before I was about to pass her (which didn't take long, given her heavyset physique and pathetic weezing pace), she crumpled up her Mcdonald's bag and just chucked it into the middle of the sidewalk, flippantly tossing her XL soda over her shoulder to boot. "Dat was goood yo" I heard her mouthing as I traversed past. I then thought: should I pick up her trash? She had just desecrated one of the nicest areas of one of my favorite cities. But surely, I figured, it is beneath my dignity to play the garbage man of some raggedy black. So I just continued walking by. In retrospect, I think I might have done to pick up the trash shove it into her outsized bosom, and to inform her that she'd dropped something. But I am not convinced I could have pulled that off in an appropriately shaming manner. How to to effectively shame the litterers is the pressing question.

    Good thing you didn’t say anything. It is illegal to criticize black people in public. You’d have been loudly greeted with “Oh no you di-int!!”, complete with head bobbing.

  69. “…specifically engaged in racial shaming of whites as pointing out that we were uglying up with our littering this beautiful country…”

    They still won’t let it go…

  70. anon[163] • Disclaimer says:

    I think because progressives tend to have a lot of deep dark racist thoughts that feel like they can only suppress with an immense effort

    I tend to agree with that. The white Left goes out of their way to avoid racial minorities in all parts of their lives (housing, schooling, popular entertainment, politics), so when you mention anything remotely racial to them, it immediately drops their mental mask and they have to resort to spasms of virtue signalling to jam it back on before too many dark thoughts get in. If you look closely, you can occasionally see progressive whites accidentally engaging these racist thoughts in their online actives and writing gigs. Numerous times over the past two years I’ve seen writers from far left publications repeat ideas originated on The Daily Stormer, an extremist racially-charged troll website.

    [MORE]

    Example: Trump copied AOC’s “okay” hand sign and a certain leftist publication falsely insinuated it was some kind of secret Nazi codetalk. Why? Because the writer must obviously have gotten the idea from Daily Stormer; they were the ones who popularized the idea first (as a means of trolling the losers they know read the site). Leftists peruse the website because they probably secretly agree with what they read there or at least think it’s funny. You sometimes see them unconsciously repeating the ideas they see there in their articles as a result, but usually in flurries of virtue signalling and cleverly masked to avoid mentioning the source.

    Same with littering. They went out of their way to avoid Hispanics in their personal lives, even where they live and work, but then being reminded of this snaps them out of their cognitive dissidence and they can’t take it. Morality, being considered pure / a good conformer, is central to their identity. It’s akin to a Medieval monk self-flagellating after thinking heretical thoughts.

    Example: An enormous number of white male progressive feminists have been outed as sexual deviants during #metoo. Some of these people include guys who have forcefully put their hands down women’s pants, pressured girls into abortions, cornered girls and forcibly kissed them or ripped off their clothing, etc. The feminism angle is most likely to suppress their disgusting thoughts or assuage their guilty consciences for immoral activity.

    Male ‘feminist’ clothing CEO fires female employees after they learn he’d admitted to abusing women

    *Guy bizarrely parlayed a public declaration of abuse into a profitable feminist t-shirt company. The employees wanted him fired after they found out and he fired them, instead. Kept selling the t-shirts.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/male-feminist-clothing-ceo-fires-employees-after-they-learn-hed-admitted-to

    Vertigo Comics Creator Accused of Abuse and Sexual Misconduct

    *SJW writer of Border Town, a racist comic book from DC that portrayed white male Trump voters as racists patrolling the Mexican border and assaulting precious migrants. Accused of assaulting a girl himself.

    https://boundingintocomics.com/2018/12/11/vertigo-comics-creator-accused-of-abuse-and-sexual-misconduct/

    http://smashpages.net/2018/12/20/comics-lowdown-eric-m-esquivel-fired-from-nightwing-border-town-cancelled/

    Polygon Parts Ways With Nick Robinson Following Twitter Claims

    *White male SJW video game writer who tried hooking up with random girls on Twitter. Feel sorry for the guy. Everyone thought he was gay due to his weird haircut. Must suck to be a heterosexual in that far-left industry — constantly forced to pander to feminists and other weirdos but not ever being able to get with a normal girl as a result.

    https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/08/polygon-parts-ways-with-nick-robinson-following-twitter-claims/

    NeoGAF Goes Dark After Sexual Misconduct Allegation Against Owner

    *Far left video game forum that sought inclusion of radical leftist themes in products bought primarily by normal teenage boys and men. Seeing heterosexual relationships and whites in video games probably set these people off like talk of littering. That’s why lots of video games pre-Great Awokening featured voluptuous girls … but not so much anymore.*

    https://kotaku.com/neogaf-goes-dark-after-sexual-misconduct-allegation-aga-1819755151

    *Microsoft’s Cortana before the Great Awokening

    After the Fall

  71. @Reg Cæsar
    It isn't "littering"/ It's hygienic diversity.

    It's the diffusion of culture.

    Viticulture, meet shiticulture. Cleanliness a white-supremacy social construct. @microbelivesmatter

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Viticulture, meet shiticulture. Cleanliness a white-supremacy social construct. @microbelivesmatter
     
    Okay, but that's recent. Elizabeth I is said to have bathed once in her life. The Indians thought her colonists stunk to high heaven.
  72. THANK YOU for spotlighting this SCOURGE! My neighborhood (per 2010 Census) is 51% “Hispanic”, and YES, I attest that littering is a Thing with them! Not all, likely not most…but definitely more than enough that this is NOT a “Stereotype”!!!!!
    As far as the White Progs predictably scolding those of us who have to actually DEAL with this social (AND Environmental, you Progs!) ILL…. they LOVE to see “lesser” areas polluted because it COMFORTS them! They see a litter-free landscape as being TOO AMERICAN (recall the TEA Party rallies, which left the grounds CLEANER than when they got there!). Litter to them is a SIGNAL that “Latino Culture” is TAKING OVER, and they the White Progs with their engineered INVASION of non-White Third Worlders are therefore BEATING us Patriots!
    And as ALWAYS, places where White Progs actually LIVE (Gated Communities, super secure Highrises) are kept spotless. By their Border Jumpers.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Valid points, to be sure, but ALL CAPS are the online equivalent of corporate-belogoed fast-food bags blowing around on the sidewalk. There are Bold and Italics buttons, right next to

    Blockquote
     
    if you need them.
  73. Anonymous[206] • Disclaimer says:

    because progressives tend to have a lot of deep dark racist thoughts that feel like they can only suppress with an immense effort, like Dr. Strangelove’s urge to shout Heil Hitler, by projecting all their racist disgust

    Yup. The “secret sin” theory applies to other areas of partisanship & gamesmanship.

  74. I think you may be doing what intelligent people do all the time, namely overestimate everybody else. I don’t think they’re trying to posit some sophisticated double meaning behind complaints about Brown Littering. They just believe that Latinos Are Perfect. Necessarily that must mean that there’s something nefarious going on, but they’re not actually constructing an idea of what that might be.

    To me the idea that most people don’t think to any extent is sort of a Lovecraftian horror, but it’s probably true and explains a lot of things well.

  75. @eric
    I grew up in LA and my family often went to tide pools. Frequently the Mexicans would show up and take sea creatures and just throw them on the beach to die. We would always be quiet when we saw a pretty thing, knowing this could happen. Who knew that in 30 years they would be benighted as noble saviors of the US, morally superior.

    s they would be benighted as noble saviors of the US, morally superior.

    They are, in the way you meant it and in the way you expressed it.

  76. Our capitol city Hartford (Ct), has what’s been billed as “New England’s Hispanic Main Street”.
    The city had to purchase 2 additional Street Sweepers just for that street.

    Ride down the street (Park St. is it’s actual name) any Sunday morning when the weather is moderate to warm, trash & garbage everywhere, yet there’s still plenty of room in the many public trash containers lining the street.

  77. I’m surprised dot Indians have gotten an EZ-Pass so far in this thread. They’re all over AOC’s district. And they litter like the many hands of Shiva dropping trash in the Ganges.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/22/nyregion/hindus-find-a-ganges-in-queens-to-park-rangers-dismay.html

  78. @Jpp
    I don't disbelieve that Latinos litter, but in my experience, blacks are the chief culprits. For instance, last time I went to the Chicago Art Institute, I decided to walk north up Michigan Avenue to Millennium Park when I was done. Michigan Avenue. Millennium Park. Some of the nicest urban scapes and urban architecture in the world. And in front of me waddled this rather rotund black chick who was plodding forward in a one step, two step manner. Before I was about to pass her (which didn't take long, given her heavyset physique and pathetic weezing pace), she crumpled up her Mcdonald's bag and just chucked it into the middle of the sidewalk, flippantly tossing her XL soda over her shoulder to boot. "Dat was goood yo" I heard her mouthing as I traversed past. I then thought: should I pick up her trash? She had just desecrated one of the nicest areas of one of my favorite cities. But surely, I figured, it is beneath my dignity to play the garbage man of some raggedy black. So I just continued walking by. In retrospect, I think I might have done to pick up the trash shove it into her outsized bosom, and to inform her that she'd dropped something. But I am not convinced I could have pulled that off in an appropriately shaming manner. How to to effectively shame the litterers is the pressing question.

    Not in the days of cell phones. She’d have made a call and you’d be maimed or dead.

  79. @Mr. Anon

    Only option. Real Q-tips have a warning on the box to never stick them in your ears.
     
    Q-tips are the damndest product: Here's a thing designed to stick in your ears. But don't stick it in your ears.

    Q-tips are the damndest product: Here’s a thing designed to stick in your ears. But don’t stick it in your ears.

    It seems that way, but medical professionals do not recommend sticking them in your ear as they can make the problem worse, and if loose cotton strands get stuck in your ear, an infection can ensue.

    Many years ago in Bermuda I knew a Registered Nurse who was walking along a hallway while poking her ear with a Q-tip cotton swab on a stick. She slipped on a damp patch of vinyl where some rainwater had leaked in, and hit her head against the wall. The Q-tip punctured her ear drum and she had an epileptic seizure. So not recommended. Not at all.

    The best way to remove earwax is to sluice the ear with hot water in the shower, or if that is ineffective flush with a bulb syringe or other large syringe filled with warm water. There are commercially available products to loosen plugged earwax, usually containing a mixture of peroxide and glycerin, or you can use the liquid in Colace constipation capsules if you are cheap and have some handy.

    Needless to say, do not try any of this at home. Go to your doctor’s office and pay them $150 to do it for you.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    I had that done decades when I didn't know anything about OTC ear wax removal. This was accomplished via a pressurized handheld sprayer that simply shot water into the ear canal; a huge hunk of wax exited into a kidney-shaped stainless steel tray and Voila! I could hear again.
    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    No more Q-tips for me:

    http://www.cynical-c.com/archives2/bloggraphics/bimbaok.jpg
  80. @Harry Baldwin
    I listened to Barr's recent speech at the Federalist Society and the interviews he gave on the Horowitz report. He comes across as serious, fair, and cautious in his assertions; i.e., not willing to go beyond anything that can be proven at this time. In other words, the very best sort of Attorney General. Contrast this with the shamelessly lying and hyperbolic Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, and Nancy Pelosi, who flout all standards of decency and fairness. Yet Eric Holder would consider the latter the best sorts of public servants. They're his sort of people.

    “shamelessly lying and hyperbolic Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, and Nancy Pelosi, who flout all standards of decency and fairness”

    But they did stay focused; didn’t watch golf during the hearings:

  81. @Bard of Bumperstickers
    Viticulture, meet shiticulture. Cleanliness a white-supremacy social construct. @microbelivesmatter

    Viticulture, meet shiticulture. Cleanliness a white-supremacy social construct. @microbelivesmatter

    Okay, but that’s recent. Elizabeth I is said to have bathed once in her life. The Indians thought her colonists stunk to high heaven.

  82. @Eddie Willers
    THANK YOU for spotlighting this SCOURGE! My neighborhood (per 2010 Census) is 51% "Hispanic", and YES, I attest that littering is a Thing with them! Not all, likely not most...but definitely more than enough that this is NOT a "Stereotype"!!!!!
    As far as the White Progs predictably scolding those of us who have to actually DEAL with this social (AND Environmental, you Progs!) ILL.... they LOVE to see "lesser" areas polluted because it COMFORTS them! They see a litter-free landscape as being TOO AMERICAN (recall the TEA Party rallies, which left the grounds CLEANER than when they got there!). Litter to them is a SIGNAL that "Latino Culture" is TAKING OVER, and they the White Progs with their engineered INVASION of non-White Third Worlders are therefore BEATING us Patriots!
    And as ALWAYS, places where White Progs actually LIVE (Gated Communities, super secure Highrises) are kept spotless. By their Border Jumpers.

    Valid points, to be sure, but ALL CAPS are the online equivalent of corporate-belogoed fast-food bags blowing around on the sidewalk. There are Bold and Italics buttons, right next to

    Blockquote

    if you need them.

    • Replies: @Eddie Willers
    Yes, thank you. I use capital letters for emphasis on Facebook, which for some reason that "Tech Behemoth" does not even offer bold or italics. I am not accustomed to even looking for them any more! But henceforeward, I shall endevour to do so, sir, since it still seems a Thing with some that CAPS are like radioactive asbestos...or something.
  83. There’s not really a good place for this and Steve doesn’t really love this issue, but there is a huge, huge story out of Virginia.
    tldr it is now spreading to New Jersey, where infection should not have been possible.
    The right to bear arms in order to effect a certain character of citizenry, let alone protect it, takes seconds to understand, and is uncomplicatedly our national Proposition.
    Duck hunting, strangely, doesn’t come up.
    Upper class twits hypnotized by university sophistry want the US to be the EU, and imagine that they can spit a few lies, per the advice of that Obama-era bureaucrat who talked about the necessity of lying to stupid voters, and get it done with a flick of the pen.
    So one side depends on conformity, total control of government, replacement immigration, and years of expensive education — to effect revolutionary change, and the other side takes seconds of solid historical edication — and was the standard for our whole history. You perhaps see where this is going.
    Almost all of Virginia has revolted against the minorotarian tyranny of globohomo NoVA.
    Maps here:
    http://gunrightswatch.com/news/2019/11/24/virginia/virginia-has-become-an-overnight-tidal-wave-of-second-amendment-sanctuaries/
    Example:
    https://postimg.cc/2q0xsV0F
    The green is America. The orange is the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. If that sounds a bit much consider their own words:
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/the-law-is-the-law-virginia-democrats-float-prosecution-national-guard-deployment-if-police-dont-enforce-gun-control
    http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+ful+SB64+hil
    Notice how it’s almost all green. This happened very rapidly for a political movement. Recall that one side is depending on years of conformist indoctrination (and now, force) and the other side is not.
    Now a New Jersey (New Jersey!) town is declaring that it still recognizes the existence of the Bill of Rights and its officials remember their oaths, and they’re doing so as Dov Hikind and Rasheeda Tlaib are tweeting about the need to control domestic terrorism (which, for the abetters of antifa, and the friends of the bin Ladens and the Mateens and the cartels, only means one thing, and it does not mean preventing terrorism).
    https://www.nj.com/passaic-county/2019/12/were-a-gun-friendly-community-town-declares-itself-a-sanctuary-for-2nd-amendment.html
    So one objective political lesson here is, how many years does it take your followers to reach Operating Thetan Three Clear? Is it something everyone can get it behind or it is for people with an account at Goop?

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiuqkEag57Y
  84. @Mr. Anon

    Only option. Real Q-tips have a warning on the box to never stick them in your ears.
     
    Q-tips are the damndest product: Here's a thing designed to stick in your ears. But don't stick it in your ears.

    Go to your doctor’s office and pay them $150 to do it for you.

    Excellent advice. About every five years, I pretty much go deaf. So I head down to the doctor’s, they remove almost cork-sized ear wax plugs from each of my ears, and I can hear again. The idea I’m gonna resolve problems like that with Q-tips, or putting warm water in my ears, seems like nonsense. Might work for some people, but those people probably don’t need much help.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Ear wax removal is a useful thing, but it's odd that you have to go to the doctor for it. You should be able to get it done for $19.99 at your local licensed ear wax removal storefront.
  85. @Reg Cæsar
    Valid points, to be sure, but ALL CAPS are the online equivalent of corporate-belogoed fast-food bags blowing around on the sidewalk. There are Bold and Italics buttons, right next to

    Blockquote
     
    if you need them.

    Yes, thank you. I use capital letters for emphasis on Facebook, which for some reason that “Tech Behemoth” does not even offer bold or italics. I am not accustomed to even looking for them any more! But henceforeward, I shall endevour to do so, sir, since it still seems a Thing with some that CAPS are like radioactive asbestos…or something.

  86. @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Go to your doctor’s office and pay them $150 to do it for you.
     
    Excellent advice. About every five years, I pretty much go deaf. So I head down to the doctor's, they remove almost cork-sized ear wax plugs from each of my ears, and I can hear again. The idea I'm gonna resolve problems like that with Q-tips, or putting warm water in my ears, seems like nonsense. Might work for some people, but those people probably don't need much help.

    Ear wax removal is a useful thing, but it’s odd that you have to go to the doctor for it. You should be able to get it done for $19.99 at your local licensed ear wax removal storefront.

  87. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "We could probably do something similar with shaming Latinos into not uglying up this beautiful country so much..."

    I have an idea for a commercial: A doe eyed Aztec priest is in the midst of a frenzied mass sacrifice and is preparing to bite into his 158th still beating, extracted heart of the day when he is hit in the head with an empty Bud Light tall can. Stunned, he turns to look off into the distance as the shot changes to a 1996 Chevy Tahoe driving off with loud mariachi music blaring out of blown speakers and dual Mexican flags being hoisted off its rear section. The shot turns back not to the priest, but to the face of the latest, quite dead sacrifice participant with what appears to be a tear running down the side of his face.

    You’re a genius!

  88. Steve you should search up “eco fascism” if you want to see how any environmental worries about 3.5 billion moving to our country is being framed.

  89. @Dumbo
    Mexicans are much worse, but, to be fair, white people (proles) also litter. Even in mostly white and supposed first-world places such as Canada or Germany (countries which have 5 or 6 different types of trashcan for every different type of trash). Since childhood I got used to never throw things on the streets, much less somewhere in nature, so for me littering is particularly abhorrent. But most people don't really seem to care. Some even live surrounded by trash and don't seem to mind.

    Even in mostly white and supposed first-world places such as Canada or Germany

    My impression in Germany is that litter is almost non-existent. I remember parking by the road in some rural area and realising the only litter was a couple of cigarette butts. At home there would at least have been a plastic bag hanging in the bushes, a squashed coke can or two lying about.

  90. Man, it’s almost like the permanent non-citizen underclass we allowed to move here in order to enrich international capitalists… doesn’t feel a sense of ownership in our country. For some reason the helots who were moved here for the specific purpose of lowering the wages of the rest of us… don’t feel any solidarity with the rest of us.

    It is true, large parts of California are now unspeakably filthy, but look on the bright side, at least our billionaire rulers got to buy that third summer mansion or 5th Ferrari.

  91. @J.Ross
    There's not really a good place for this and Steve doesn't really love this issue, but there is a huge, huge story out of Virginia.
    tldr it is now spreading to New Jersey, where infection should not have been possible.
    The right to bear arms in order to effect a certain character of citizenry, let alone protect it, takes seconds to understand, and is uncomplicatedly our national Proposition.
    Duck hunting, strangely, doesn't come up.
    Upper class twits hypnotized by university sophistry want the US to be the EU, and imagine that they can spit a few lies, per the advice of that Obama-era bureaucrat who talked about the necessity of lying to stupid voters, and get it done with a flick of the pen.
    So one side depends on conformity, total control of government, replacement immigration, and years of expensive education -- to effect revolutionary change, and the other side takes seconds of solid historical edication -- and was the standard for our whole history. You perhaps see where this is going.
    Almost all of Virginia has revolted against the minorotarian tyranny of globohomo NoVA.
    Maps here:
    http://gunrightswatch.com/news/2019/11/24/virginia/virginia-has-become-an-overnight-tidal-wave-of-second-amendment-sanctuaries/
    Example:
    https://postimg.cc/2q0xsV0F
    The green is America. The orange is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. If that sounds a bit much consider their own words:
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/the-law-is-the-law-virginia-democrats-float-prosecution-national-guard-deployment-if-police-dont-enforce-gun-control
    http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+ful+SB64+hil
    Notice how it's almost all green. This happened very rapidly for a political movement. Recall that one side is depending on years of conformist indoctrination (and now, force) and the other side is not.
    Now a New Jersey (New Jersey!) town is declaring that it still recognizes the existence of the Bill of Rights and its officials remember their oaths, and they're doing so as Dov Hikind and Rasheeda Tlaib are tweeting about the need to control domestic terrorism (which, for the abetters of antifa, and the friends of the bin Ladens and the Mateens and the cartels, only means one thing, and it does not mean preventing terrorism).
    https://www.nj.com/passaic-county/2019/12/were-a-gun-friendly-community-town-declares-itself-a-sanctuary-for-2nd-amendment.html
    So one objective political lesson here is, how many years does it take your followers to reach Operating Thetan Three Clear? Is it something everyone can get it behind or it is for people with an account at Goop?

  92. @Jonathan Mason

    Q-tips are the damndest product: Here’s a thing designed to stick in your ears. But don’t stick it in your ears.
     
    It seems that way, but medical professionals do not recommend sticking them in your ear as they can make the problem worse, and if loose cotton strands get stuck in your ear, an infection can ensue.

    Many years ago in Bermuda I knew a Registered Nurse who was walking along a hallway while poking her ear with a Q-tip cotton swab on a stick. She slipped on a damp patch of vinyl where some rainwater had leaked in, and hit her head against the wall. The Q-tip punctured her ear drum and she had an epileptic seizure. So not recommended. Not at all.

    The best way to remove earwax is to sluice the ear with hot water in the shower, or if that is ineffective flush with a bulb syringe or other large syringe filled with warm water. There are commercially available products to loosen plugged earwax, usually containing a mixture of peroxide and glycerin, or you can use the liquid in Colace constipation capsules if you are cheap and have some handy.

    Needless to say, do not try any of this at home. Go to your doctor's office and pay them $150 to do it for you.

    I had that done decades when I didn’t know anything about OTC ear wax removal. This was accomplished via a pressurized handheld sprayer that simply shot water into the ear canal; a huge hunk of wax exited into a kidney-shaped stainless steel tray and Voila! I could hear again.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Yes, I get ear wax removal done at my expensive doctor's office annually these days. It helps my hearing. It just seems like an odd procedure to be done on some of the most expensive real estate on the Westside of Los Angeles instead of in a storefront in North Hollywood.
  93. @Joe Stalin
    I had that done decades when I didn't know anything about OTC ear wax removal. This was accomplished via a pressurized handheld sprayer that simply shot water into the ear canal; a huge hunk of wax exited into a kidney-shaped stainless steel tray and Voila! I could hear again.

    Yes, I get ear wax removal done at my expensive doctor’s office annually these days. It helps my hearing. It just seems like an odd procedure to be done on some of the most expensive real estate on the Westside of Los Angeles instead of in a storefront in North Hollywood.

    • Replies: @anon
    It just seems like an odd procedure to be done on some of the most expensive real estate on the Westside of Los Angeles instead of in a storefront in North Hollywood.

    Rumor has it you can get all kinds of things done for cash in West Hollywood, why not this too?
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Try hydrogen peroxide every few months followed by your index finger. No Q-tips.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    Olive oil drops in the ears for a week before, to loosen the wax.
    , @Jonathan Mason
    Your cheap and cheerful earwax removal store would probably run foul of the dread laws against "practicing medicine without a license" which preserve the medical monopoly on many basic procedures.

    Actually even cutting someone's hair cannot be done in my state, and presumably others, without a special license, unless you are a prisoner, in which case you seem to be able to cut the hair of other inmates without penalty. I think you can do a family member too.

    But really the same could go for many medical things like blood work. That Complete Blood Count, or Basic Metabolic Panel that you pay the earth for only really costs pennies, but the medical monopoly calls all the shots.

    When I lived in the Dominican Republic, you could go to a storefront place and have a complete panoramic dental X-ray done for $10. You would then take the film to your dentist when you went for treatment. Presumably it was quite profitable for the X-ray provider too, but in the US you would probably pay $150 to your dentist for this.

  94. anon[313] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Yes, I get ear wax removal done at my expensive doctor's office annually these days. It helps my hearing. It just seems like an odd procedure to be done on some of the most expensive real estate on the Westside of Los Angeles instead of in a storefront in North Hollywood.

    It just seems like an odd procedure to be done on some of the most expensive real estate on the Westside of Los Angeles instead of in a storefront in North Hollywood.

    Rumor has it you can get all kinds of things done for cash in West Hollywood, why not this too?

  95. @Steve Sailer
    Yes, I get ear wax removal done at my expensive doctor's office annually these days. It helps my hearing. It just seems like an odd procedure to be done on some of the most expensive real estate on the Westside of Los Angeles instead of in a storefront in North Hollywood.

    Try hydrogen peroxide every few months followed by your index finger. No Q-tips.

  96. @Jonathan Mason

    Q-tips are the damndest product: Here’s a thing designed to stick in your ears. But don’t stick it in your ears.
     
    It seems that way, but medical professionals do not recommend sticking them in your ear as they can make the problem worse, and if loose cotton strands get stuck in your ear, an infection can ensue.

    Many years ago in Bermuda I knew a Registered Nurse who was walking along a hallway while poking her ear with a Q-tip cotton swab on a stick. She slipped on a damp patch of vinyl where some rainwater had leaked in, and hit her head against the wall. The Q-tip punctured her ear drum and she had an epileptic seizure. So not recommended. Not at all.

    The best way to remove earwax is to sluice the ear with hot water in the shower, or if that is ineffective flush with a bulb syringe or other large syringe filled with warm water. There are commercially available products to loosen plugged earwax, usually containing a mixture of peroxide and glycerin, or you can use the liquid in Colace constipation capsules if you are cheap and have some handy.

    Needless to say, do not try any of this at home. Go to your doctor's office and pay them $150 to do it for you.

    No more Q-tips for me:

  97. Mexicans along the Chesapeake Bay will go to a beach, feel for oysters with their feet, and dig up wild mature oysters and shuck them. I’ve only seen this behavior over Independence Day so have given them a pass and thrown the shells back into the water (mineral recycling is important for the mollusks).

    In beautiful Mexican beach tourist locales the litter is pretty bad. They blame the beach trash on South America and the southern Caribbean and ocean currents, but I suspect the characteristic Mexican apathy applies to litter as well.

    When I hiked at Hanging Lake in Colorado I picked up a surprising amount of beer cans, mostly deposited from prole whites. I imagine there’s a fair amount of litter from the Latinx servant classes in mountain towns across the West.

    Also, what’s the deal with Mexicans not skiing in ritzy ski towns? You would think the AWFLs would find some ski programs for Latinx youth in the hopes of finding an Olympian, but immigrants tend to keep off the slopes. I knew a Puerto Rican guy who grew up in New England but moved to Jackson Hole and became an incredible skiier in a few years. There is probably a lot of raw athletic talent not being developed in these highly segregated mountain towns where outdoor activity is a major focus.

  98. @Mr. Anon

    Only option. Real Q-tips have a warning on the box to never stick them in your ears.
     
    Q-tips are the damndest product: Here's a thing designed to stick in your ears. But don't stick it in your ears.

    It’s just a legal liability issue. Obviously, the manufacturer wants you to put them in your ears. Otherwise sales of their product would collapse. They just don’t want to be blamed for clumsy idiots who injure themselves doing this.

  99. @Steve Sailer
    Yes, I get ear wax removal done at my expensive doctor's office annually these days. It helps my hearing. It just seems like an odd procedure to be done on some of the most expensive real estate on the Westside of Los Angeles instead of in a storefront in North Hollywood.

    Olive oil drops in the ears for a week before, to loosen the wax.

  100. @Steve Sailer
    Yes, I get ear wax removal done at my expensive doctor's office annually these days. It helps my hearing. It just seems like an odd procedure to be done on some of the most expensive real estate on the Westside of Los Angeles instead of in a storefront in North Hollywood.

    Your cheap and cheerful earwax removal store would probably run foul of the dread laws against “practicing medicine without a license” which preserve the medical monopoly on many basic procedures.

    Actually even cutting someone’s hair cannot be done in my state, and presumably others, without a special license, unless you are a prisoner, in which case you seem to be able to cut the hair of other inmates without penalty. I think you can do a family member too.

    But really the same could go for many medical things like blood work. That Complete Blood Count, or Basic Metabolic Panel that you pay the earth for only really costs pennies, but the medical monopoly calls all the shots.

    When I lived in the Dominican Republic, you could go to a storefront place and have a complete panoramic dental X-ray done for $10. You would then take the film to your dentist when you went for treatment. Presumably it was quite profitable for the X-ray provider too, but in the US you would probably pay $150 to your dentist for this.

  101. Tourette Disappointment syndrome
    Cancel Culture as drop in group therapy. The only cure is rule by actress. Thespiocracy, no? Taylor Swift hardest hit since she isn’t a credentialed thespian. Indeed, look at the earned media given to Streep over apples. She named her god Weinstein at the 2012 Golden Globes but has Streep appointed a successor queen? #metoo as a vehicle to cash in their casting couch chits as higher ed diploma transfer credits? World War Hair the affirmative action earned media from the lack of #timesup diversity? Shouldn’t the crying Latinx be an illegal alien who supped on America’s milk and honey but can Tourette tic the above victim boxes and more until their (flying car) foreign millionaire saved them from rootlessness? Salma Hayek.

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