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I believe this is from iSteve commenter Pixo a few months ago:
“We acknowledge this land used to belong to the Canaanites, then us, then the Egyptians, the Sea Peoples, Babylonians, Assyrians, Neo-Babylonians, Neo-Assyrians, Macedonians, Hellenized Syrians, Parthians, us again, Romans, us again, back to the Romans, who became Byzantines, then Arabs, then Franco-Norman Crusaders, Arabs again, Ottomans, Albanians pretending to be Egyptians pretending to be ruled by Ottomans, and finally the British, the nicest of the whole lot, shame we had to blow a few of them up, but who are we to question God’s will?”
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Then we added a few bits like the Golan Heights because God wanted us to have a ski resort.
Has anyone noticed we haven’t heard much from the evangelical community despite the great number of upheaveals of the last 3 years? I would exepct them to think things are on track to prove them right about rapture related ideas. Are they expecting war between Israel and Iran and Armageddon? I know Pat Robertson was expecting things to finally happen at the start of the Ukraine War but his thinking hasn’t caught on. One of the major thinks (Foundation for Defense of Democracies) of the Jewish Lobby has published an article in Foreign Policy declaring Iran to now be at war with Ukraine. So be prepared for the war with Iran to start next year. https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/10/26/iran-ukraine-russia-war-drones-missiles-military-advisors-middle-east-nuclear/
I think you missed the Black Hebrew Israelites in this mix.
They might be right about Tom Jones, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yet2Q0M32GQReplies: @clifford brown, @Bardon Kaldian
That sounds like the first paragraph of every Wikipedia page on any town, country, or State in North America. Don’t give them any money. It’s a scam.
(I mean Wikipedia or all those indigenous people.)
Acknowledge this!
Funny thing: searching for “God gave us your land” brought up a whole lot of “Christian” Zionist sites.
Let’s go back to when all of the world’s borders were correct.
If you want to live in a pleasant world ... let's just not do that anymore. Stop the invasions! Let's have borders where one group of people can live in their nation according to their norms, language, religion, culture ... and other people can live in theirs according to their norms and culture.
This allows people to positively compete to make their individual patches really great--including not being overpopulated. And it preserves the glorious "diversity" of mankind we here so much about.
Obvious fair minded common sense. So what's going on with the people that hate this idea?Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8no8ItMebQ
They might be right about Tom Jones, though.Replies: @Anonymous, @Hypnotoad666
The Black Scientologists too. L. Ron Hubbard was a black man:
Strange as it sounds, Scientology has been infiltrating The Nation of Islam for about 15 years. Both cults are long in the tooth as far as cults go and I assume Scientology is cannibalizing the NOI. They both have UFO aspects to their theologies so the pairing is not as strange as it seems.
“And we were so grateful to the British for being so nice and defeating that guy Hitler that we helped undermine their country and tricked them into giving it away to the Third World so that those nice British people could die off.”
Coming to a golf club near Steve if the Kagan's get their way.Replies: @Anon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olei_Hagardom
Yes, everyone knows that the British (the UK is smaller than California) conquered an Empire that spanned the entire planet and ruled billions by being super nice. (British cars suck but their propaganda machine is absolutely 1st class).
As far as undermining the UK, Britain has a tiny Jewish community and it generally supports the Conservative party so the situation is nothing like that of the US. What you describe is not true in the US either but it's especially not true in Britain.Replies: @dearieme, @Edmund, @Rich
This Land Is Mine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Paley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seder-Masochism#Music
https://www.songfacts.com/facts/pat-boone/the-exodus-song-this-land-is-mineReplies: @Unintended Consequence
Paley, like a lot of Ashkenazi, is not showing up for the future but Jews with more blood-and-soil ethos will.
I tend to agree with prognosticators who say Israel is going to get more Middle Eastern-y. The future majority non-white US is going to have other priorities and Israelis will have to figure out how to get along better with their fellow Semites. Don't American Jews already consider Israeli Jews kind of declasse'?Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus, @Colin Wright
I’m sure I’ll get some details confused here, but I remember, about 1980 or so, probably during the height of the American Indian (AIM) movement, the Sioux were trying to get title to the Black Hills of South Dakota. The idea was getting some traction until the Crows stepped up to say, “Hey, wait a minute, the Whites chased you guys out of Minnesota and then you drove us out of the Black Hills.”
Next the Pawnees laid claim to the Black Hills, even before the Crows, at that point the tribes said, “Never Mind!”
Humph…. It is true that Jews lived there ca. 2000 years ago or so. But guess- that changed. And who gave a bunch of British imperialists during WW1 (Balfour, Milnor, Samuel,..) the right to decide that Jews from all over the world should possess the land occupied, 99%, by Arab Muslims and Christians? This is a parody of colonialism. God- if he exists- is not a real estate agent. And without Nazi rise to power, let’s be frank, there would have been no Israel, because in the process of decolonization there would have been not enough Jews there (nobody would have moved to that ghastly area). True, Arabs were wrong both in 1948 and 1967. They should have recognized Israel within the 1948 borders & there would have been peace. But the Jewish side is to blame, mostly, for the current state of affairs. This is a clear example of ethnic cleansing, Israeli settlers/colonizers dehumanizing and pushing local Arabs out of their ancestral lands- it doesn’t matter that historical ancestors of contemporary Jews lived there 2000 or 3000 years ago (following that reasoning English Saxons should have the right to occupy German Saxony etc..) Pure and simple ethnic cleansing, more than apartheid, all in the name of religious fairy tales and legally “supported” by discarded British imperialist colonial scheming. There is absolutely no excuse for this state of affairs -and Palestinian Arabs share their part of responsibility for that, due to their intransigence & stubbornness, because they refuse to acknowledge any Jewish state, no matter which borders. Israelis and Arabs are maximalists, and this conflict will last until the end of time (whatever it may mean).
We don’t know the genetics of the ancient Hebrews and in fact putting aside the Biblical myths we know almost nothing about the historical Hebrews. However it is likely that present day Palestinians have a lot more of the “blood of Abraham” than Ashkenazi Jews.Replies: @mc23, @Yahya, @Luke Lea
It appears you support the, rather hard-nosed, doctrine that if someone or other conquers a piece of real estate, they also ought keep it until somebody else moves in, and them out. Is your idea on immigration also informed by this notion of realism? If so, do you support open borders?
Curious minds and such.
I don’t mean this in a rude way, but what is the point?
Droll, but I don’t think the Canaanites were the first. And there were Persians before the Macedonians.
“Canaanites” seems to be the accepted term for the entire initial Semitic population of the Southern Levant at the dawn of history, including proto-Jews who were likely a Canaanite subgroup.Replies: @Twinkie
Speculating that 2022-2025 will see a subtle, but real shift, of Israel away from the West. Netanyahu correctly understands the only plausible avenue for a viable Jewish state is through fundamentalist, low-iq birth rates. Anything less — via Muslim birth rates or Russia’s backing of Muslim states — and Israel is overwhelmed.
Additionally, with interest rates rising, it’s drying up tech in the US. So the make-believe tech in Israel is definitely toast. Israel will likely coast on US Boomer fumes and handouts, which will get them to 2030. Beyond that, there will be a fundamental realignment. Potentially, pragmatic Israelis can put up with Russia or China, but it won’t be the US or Europe.
About the highest tech we have today is fabricating semiconductors which is a field I've been following for decades. Per Wikipedia and memory, they've got four fabs, two now doing older processes which is starting with COVID became a very very hot thing. And two Intel, one of which is trying to like every other Intel 7 fab line make chips at acceptable yields, that is economically, but as far as I know it's none of their fault for that disaster. Before then I'm pretty sure I remember them successfully doing Intel's previous and for the time cutting edge 14 nm node.
This is very real world stuff, very hard to do especially economically as the PRC was finding out before we dropped the hammer on Xi/the CCP, you make chips that work or you don't.
I'm not saying this as a fan of Israel or Israeli Jews who frequently demonstrate themselves to be the enemies of all who live like their diaspora brethren, but to avoid our underestimating them. Know your enemy and all that.
1. Ex USSR Ashkenazi-Slav hybrids have the lowest birthrate of Jewish groups. While around 105IQ, that’s not as high as pure AJs.
2. Fertility is eugenic within traditional very high fertility AJ communities for the same reasons it was in the middle ages: larger family sizes for wealthier higher IQ men and eugenic marriage policies.
3. Non-AJ Jewish groups have lower fertility than AJs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yet2Q0M32GQReplies: @clifford brown, @Bardon Kaldian
Too bad Eric Andre is not funny.
Strange as it sounds, Scientology has been infiltrating The Nation of Islam for about 15 years. Both cults are long in the tooth as far as cults go and I assume Scientology is cannibalizing the NOI. They both have UFO aspects to their theologies so the pairing is not as strange as it seems.
“God gave us this land. But we’re not leaving Europe or North America.”
“And we even kidnapped and hanged two of their sergeants.”
And people here say that Emmett Till was long ago. When it comes to their pet grievances, they are like elephants.
How many British sergeants did the Germans kill in two world wars? Ten thousand times as many ? A hundred thousand? Maybe Stalin had it right: “The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of a million is a statistic.”
But Germany and the UK are the best of friends now. All is forgiven.Replies: @JimDandy, @Buzz Mohawk
The British were treating the guerilla fighters as terrorists and ignoring the rules of warfare. The guerillas had warned the British that if they hanged their prisoners, they would retaliate in kind.
The British called their "bluff", and the guerillas then hung two British M.P.s that they had captured.
Future guerilla prisoners were treated as prisoners of war, and there were no further hangings of prisoners on both sides.
The same thing happened in the U.S. Revolutionary War
It's unfortunate, but violence or threats of violence settle everything in human conflicts of any significance.Replies: @Colin Wright
Have to price what that would cost on a t-shirt.
Whenever people start in with that land acknowledgement schtick, they should be told: “Okay, you’re standing on land that belonged to the (fill in Indian tribe name here) people. So………Get the Hell off of it! Drift. Vamoose. Now!
Sorry, I have dibs on it, since Neanderthals were at ‘Ein Qashish 70,000 years ago and I have some of their DNA. Plus I’m due a few billion in reparations and a harem.
Additionally, with interest rates rising, it's drying up tech in the US. So the make-believe tech in Israel is definitely toast. Israel will likely coast on US Boomer fumes and handouts, which will get them to 2030. Beyond that, there will be a fundamental realignment. Potentially, pragmatic Israelis can put up with Russia or China, but it won't be the US or Europe.Replies: @Anonynoose, @That Would Be Telling, @Pixo, @AnotherDad, @Lockean Proviso
Russia will be a smoldering ghost town in 2030 and China a low-tier elderly care center in 2030.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8no8ItMebQ
They might be right about Tom Jones, though.Replies: @Anonymous, @Hypnotoad666
Like the Kanye contretemps that he avoided, Steve is missing out on the defenestration of Kyrie Irving, which is actually even more ridiculous. All he did was Tweet a link to a documentary that claims (with copious evidence I’m sure!), that blacks are the real Biblical chosen people. For that crime (and not making an unqualified oath of allegiance to the creed of anti-anti-Semitism), the Nets suspended him, Nike etc. canceled his endorsements, they made him donate $500,000 to the ADL, and then to generally crawl on his hands and knees for penance.
Interestingly, while they certainly showed Irving who’s in charge of him, the ADL couldn’t make Bezos take the silly film off of Amazon (and apparently it’s on YouTube anyway), so now the Streisand effect is kicking in.
Keeping eccentric black celebrities on the woke plantation by force is not a good look for the Coalition of the Fringes. Wake up Black People!
https://lookmovie2.to/movies/view/9574524-hebrews-to-negroes-wake-up-black-america-2018
Brother Kyrie was not cancelled for claiming the Earth Is Flat. This is a very serious, influential thinker, but he was not suspended from the The League because of his well developed theories about the shape of the Earth.
Flat Earthism is the first step to realizing the Hollow Earth Truth.
Steph Curry was not suspended for saying the Moon Landing Was Fake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN_3FfznXLEReplies: @Muggles
The problem with the documentary is not the claims of Blacks in Israel but Holocaust denial and such. Just a silly Afo-Centric claim that is a cover to attack someone else.
You have to profess a religion in order to be part of it. The Ethopian Jews were eventually accepted in spite of some serious doubts about their practices. I've seen it claimed that at one point Jews made up 10 percent of the Roman Empire yet the vast majority of those people stopped professing and their decendants have no right to claim to be Jewish unless they formally convert.
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Listen people. "When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say"
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We fled to Africa to hide, and the ones that didn’t get captured they started taking up there rituals etc.
Chevy Neeley
God brought us back and made us suffer for this time and place ...The awakening...we are here because it's ours we had to come back here to our home when we left before slavery remember queen California and Grand canyon remember... remember who we are
The whole "anti-Semitism" deal is amazing. What other group in the world has bothered to manufacture a label for other peoples not liking them--and seriously who likes any middle-man minority? (for the obvious reasons)--and then been able to propagandize it into some sort official offense that's the worst thing ever?
If we white people--you know the people that actually settled and built America--had a similar "anti-white-gentilism" offense, half the Jews in America would have their jobs and property confiscated have been tossed in prison on expelled.
American Jews--regularly, routinely, every day--spew anti-white gentile abuse and invective, just as full of lies and fantasy as whatever Afro-centric nonsense this bozo was linking and far, far, far more destructive.Replies: @Almost Missouri
If you're not allowed to join and you're not allowed to criticize, ... what's left?
Only conflict.
The cause of certain historical patterns is ... becoming clearer.Replies: @Pixo
Ashkenazi Jews are genetically about 60% European and 40% Middle Eastern. The mitochondrial DNA is exclusively Southern European. The original Jewish mothers were Italian babes.
We don’t know the genetics of the ancient Hebrews and in fact putting aside the Biblical myths we know almost nothing about the historical Hebrews. However it is likely that present day Palestinians have a lot more of the “blood of Abraham” than Ashkenazi Jews.
Interesting clustering of ethnic groups. Distinct but related
https://twitter.com/ArainGang/status/1585039804441722880?s=20&t=YRWbkixoyGbyG1EYbTI6qAReplies: @Steve Sailer, @James N. Kennett
Settled agricultural cultures have existed in this area for about 10,000 years. The historical Hebrews, of which we know almost nothing, probably were at their height about 1000 BC. The Jews of Hellenistic times were already a very different people from whatever was the historical reality of Hebrew tribes of 1000 BC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tIdCsMufIYhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Paley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seder-Masochism#MusicReplies: @Franz, @Gary in Gramercy, @The Anti-Gnostic
The horror! Pat Boone tells the story behind the song, hearing the soundtrack to the movie “Exodus”. Truly the devil works in mysterious ways:
https://www.songfacts.com/facts/pat-boone/the-exodus-song-this-land-is-mine
When was the last time you saw him together with Sigourney Weaver?
And now for something completely different. I’ve read a bunch of winning Harvard application essays so you don’t have to. Tl;dr it helps to be foreign, or foreign-sounding.
Reviewer: “Yueming shows his ability to learn from the experience of others, and he highlights his own resilience and the positive mindset he gained from Ye-Ye.”
And now, the Jewish girl’s turn!
(Yes, the essay critics can’t spell. Most of them have third-world names.)
Did that one make you retch? There’s more:
“Taras” is unfortunately white male adjacent so he must be a genius.
“Lisa” wants to take risks and truly grow! Critic Val Misra says: “Lisa’s brand values seamlessly flow throughout the essay: creativity, determination, overcoming obstacles, self-reflection, growth through risk and, of course, passion!”
Camp counselor Charles Wong stands up for the little guy! Fortunately none of the critics is sharp enough to identify fabrications:
“The reader can feel his concern; Charles walks us through his genuine dilemma. Additionally, the acts of kindness he describes—the pep talks, the hugs—offer insight into his character. The decision to include these details paint Charles as a kind and bright personality, something of value on any college campus.”
(I skipped the rest of that one.)
…….
Did “Michelle Choi” mean batter or banter?? Who cares.
This black chick is so edgy! ADMIT!
Eda buys a house for her parents! Reviewer says: “Honest. Heartbreaking. Powerful.”
….
“Michelle” recalls visiting the countryside with her grandfather in China.
That’ll come in handy when Michelle is attacked on the T by some guys who aren’t exactly white male adjacent.
https://www.thecrimson.com/topic/sponsored-successful-harvard-essays-2022/
These particular critics, if actually employed by an elite admissions office, must be rookies or otherwise easily impressed. Most experienced professionals strongly advise against what they refer to, derisively, as "the Grandparent Essay." The focus should always be on what makes you, the applicant, distinctive or unique. "Grandma isn't applying to Harvard: you are."
By the way, I read through the "successful Harvard essays," and to the extent they aren't complete fiction, they benefited from some professional editing or "massaging." (No "happy ending" jokes, thanks.) It's the rare 17-year-old who can write and edit an essay like this -- the best chance to distinguish oneself from all the other perfect applicants, so the pressure is immense -- without considerable outside input. (By that I don't mean having Mom and Dad, and maybe your junior year English teacher, look it over for spelling errors.)
I did like "Charles Wong's" account of being a camp counselor, though: as the critic pointed out, Charles followed the first rule for such essays: "Show, don't tell." (The second: "Less is more.")Replies: @Anon
Wait till Kanye hears about this! Is the World ready for 'YeYeYeezy'?Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
“Don’t stop him, he’s on a roll”.
Exactly. If you acknowledge that this was Indian land, why are you squatting on it?
Brother Kyrie was not cancelled for claiming the Earth Is Flat. This is a very serious, influential thinker, but he was not suspended from the The League because of his well developed theories about the shape of the Earth.
Flat Earthism is the first step to realizing the Hollow Earth Truth.
Steph Curry was not suspended for saying the Moon Landing Was Fake.
The others, well, not so much.
Steph stays, the others have to attend Silver's Re-Education Camp. (Sorry fellas, no bacon...)
Never mind all that.
The prevailing political class orthodoxy – in what are for now majority European descended populations – is that ‘the land’ basically is up for grabs to anyone who merely shows up and squats on it, the squatters having a stronger case over the ‘rights’ acceding to residing on the land than those of ancient provenance and lineage.
Historically speaking pretty bizarre and unprecedented – in its own way equivalent to Elon Musk saying all of his fortune ‘belongs’ to anyone who just shows up and takes it -, but, you must admit that the streamlined simplicity of this new and omnipotent dogma does untangle the ‘Abraham beget …’ conundrums that a certain Levantine nation.
We don’t know the genetics of the ancient Hebrews and in fact putting aside the Biblical myths we know almost nothing about the historical Hebrews. However it is likely that present day Palestinians have a lot more of the “blood of Abraham” than Ashkenazi Jews.Replies: @mc23, @Yahya, @Luke Lea
See the chart below. I can’t say how accurate it is but we know the Samaritans are the remnants of a people who have continuously occupied the ground. Given the information the Palestinians are the most closely related group to the Samaritans, probably Christianized Jews, most of whom converted to Islam.
Interesting clustering of ethnic groups. Distinct but related
Who cares?
I am 100% Croatian, and my ancestry is- I guess, I never bothered with genealogy tests – Croatian, pre-1463 Bosnian, Czech, Afghan Pushtu, German and Russian.
Identity is not ancestry.
Jews have retained their historical-cultural-ethnic individuality & connection to the land they’d been booted from. Local Arabs are, re. identity, newcomers.
Not there’s anything wrong with that …
Example number 2784128974 of why conservative morons cannot do humor.
This is pure anti-Semitism
I take pleasure in the fact that you vicious subhumans will lose.
No one will follow your religion. Your features will die out. You are done
You will lose the election
Die now and curse in vain
Now learn to keep your keyboard Hate under control...
Interesting clustering of ethnic groups. Distinct but related
https://twitter.com/ArainGang/status/1585039804441722880?s=20&t=YRWbkixoyGbyG1EYbTI6qAReplies: @Steve Sailer, @James N. Kennett
Right. I’ve never heard anybody doubt that the Samaritans in Israel aren’t directly descended from the Samaritans Jesus talked about.
https://digitalcommons.wayne.edu/humbiol_preprints/40/
says "This result supports the position of the Samaritans that they are descendants from the tribes of Israel dating to before the Assyrian exile in 722–720 BCE."
Has anyone got a link to more recent work?
(I mean Wikipedia or all those indigenous people.)Replies: @Auld Alliance
Interestingly the words indigenous and indigent could both mean someone pleading poverty to get money from you.
I guess Sailer is one of les autres who have been encourager-ed by that ‘ridiculous’ defenestration.
Steve is busy working on an article about golf course architecture... He can't be bothered by trivial things like A-list celebs getting cancelled for not worshipping Jews enough
God also gave us those wonderful beach resorts on the Red Sea, but America forced us to give them back to the Egyptians.
No one cares if the original Hebrews were Black. Who professes the religion today? I knew a Jewish girl who was enamored of the Kahzars. She could have cared less if Askenazi Jews had a physical kinship with the ancient Israeli’s.
The problem with the documentary is not the claims of Blacks in Israel but Holocaust denial and such. Just a silly Afo-Centric claim that is a cover to attack someone else.
You have to profess a religion in order to be part of it. The Ethopian Jews were eventually accepted in spite of some serious doubts about their practices. I’ve seen it claimed that at one point Jews made up 10 percent of the Roman Empire yet the vast majority of those people stopped professing and their decendants have no right to claim to be Jewish unless they formally convert.
It does kind of come out of nowhere given recent posting trends, but you have to understand, Steve hangs with Ye every weekend. Ye is insane about golf.
"Lisa" wants to take risks and truly grow! Critic Val Misra says: "Lisa’s brand values seamlessly flow throughout the essay: creativity, determination, overcoming obstacles, self-reflection, growth through risk and, of course, passion!"Camp counselor Charles Wong stands up for the little guy! Fortunately none of the critics is sharp enough to identify fabrications:"The reader can feel his concern; Charles walks us through his genuine dilemma. Additionally, the acts of kindness he describes—the pep talks, the hugs—offer insight into his character. The decision to include these details paint Charles as a kind and bright personality, something of value on any college campus."(I skipped the rest of that one.).......
Did "Michelle Choi" mean batter or banter?? Who cares.This black chick is so edgy! ADMIT!Eda buys a house for her parents! Reviewer says: "Honest. Heartbreaking. Powerful."...."Michelle" recalls visiting the countryside with her grandfather in China.That'll come in handy when Michelle is attacked on the T by some guys who aren't exactly white male adjacent.
https://www.thecrimson.com/topic/sponsored-successful-harvard-essays-2022/Replies: @J.Ross, @Gary in Gramercy, @kaganovitch, @Jim Don Bob
“Taras” is the archetypical Ukrainian male given name, it’s like an Irishman being named Padraig, or Tim. These essays make a reader look forward to a Zardozian future in which these “people” are made to farm at gunpoint.
Or better still, dig their own graves. I can't imagine these Harvard-bound idiots ever being useful in a sane world.
What, John McCain had more homes than he could count — or even remember, https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mccains-mansions-the-hous_b_119573 — but we can’t summer and winter in different countries?
Meanwhile downtown Portland residents and business owners are terrified, preparing for more democrat attacks via their antifa military arm.
Residents are realizing they’re on their own… again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tIdCsMufIYhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Paley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seder-Masochism#MusicReplies: @Franz, @Gary in Gramercy, @The Anti-Gnostic
“Let’s not bicker and argue about who killed who…”
The perfect thing to say at a Passover seder.
This is pure anti-Semitism
I take pleasure in the fact that you vicious subhumans will lose.
No one will follow your religion. Your features will die out. You are done
You will lose the election
Die now and curse in vainReplies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Muggles
https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-fdb3d115ac74a8733894844b80fb55b9
Everything they say we know is bullshit.
Another reason why the British were the best of all: The Right Stuff.
Coming to a golf club near Steve if the Kagan’s get their way.
"Lisa" wants to take risks and truly grow! Critic Val Misra says: "Lisa’s brand values seamlessly flow throughout the essay: creativity, determination, overcoming obstacles, self-reflection, growth through risk and, of course, passion!"Camp counselor Charles Wong stands up for the little guy! Fortunately none of the critics is sharp enough to identify fabrications:"The reader can feel his concern; Charles walks us through his genuine dilemma. Additionally, the acts of kindness he describes—the pep talks, the hugs—offer insight into his character. The decision to include these details paint Charles as a kind and bright personality, something of value on any college campus."(I skipped the rest of that one.).......
Did "Michelle Choi" mean batter or banter?? Who cares.This black chick is so edgy! ADMIT!Eda buys a house for her parents! Reviewer says: "Honest. Heartbreaking. Powerful."...."Michelle" recalls visiting the countryside with her grandfather in China.That'll come in handy when Michelle is attacked on the T by some guys who aren't exactly white male adjacent.
https://www.thecrimson.com/topic/sponsored-successful-harvard-essays-2022/Replies: @J.Ross, @Gary in Gramercy, @kaganovitch, @Jim Don Bob
I saw that piece: since I write and edit application essays for aspiring college students (grad/professional school applicants, too), I take a keen interest in what admissions officers say about the Common App essay.
These particular critics, if actually employed by an elite admissions office, must be rookies or otherwise easily impressed. Most experienced professionals strongly advise against what they refer to, derisively, as “the Grandparent Essay.” The focus should always be on what makes you, the applicant, distinctive or unique. “Grandma isn’t applying to Harvard: you are.”
By the way, I read through the “successful Harvard essays,” and to the extent they aren’t complete fiction, they benefited from some professional editing or “massaging.” (No “happy ending” jokes, thanks.) It’s the rare 17-year-old who can write and edit an essay like this — the best chance to distinguish oneself from all the other perfect applicants, so the pressure is immense — without considerable outside input. (By that I don’t mean having Mom and Dad, and maybe your junior year English teacher, look it over for spelling errors.)
I did like “Charles Wong’s” account of being a camp counselor, though: as the critic pointed out, Charles followed the first rule for such essays: “Show, don’t tell.” (The second: “Less is more.”)
Interesting clustering of ethnic groups. Distinct but related
https://twitter.com/ArainGang/status/1585039804441722880?s=20&t=YRWbkixoyGbyG1EYbTI6qAReplies: @Steve Sailer, @James N. Kennett
Because the Holocaust happened only 80 years ago, we tend to forget that the Ashkenazim are demographically a huge success. Contrast with the Samaritans, who have fewer than 1,000 survivors and issues with inbreeding.
I don’t recall anyone being duped into fighting any decades-long $6 trillion dollar wars in order to secure John McCain’s summer home.
OT: La Traviata.
An HD recording of last Saturday’s Met performance of La Traviata will be shown in theaters nationwide Wednesday at 1:30 pm and 6:30 pm with subtitles.
I saw it live in New York and Nadine Sierra as Violetta was superb.
If you have ever thought about seeing an opera, start here.
Search here to find a theater near you: https://www.metopera.org/season/in-cinemas/theater-finder
Off-topic. The powerball numbers for the $1.9 billion drawing was delayed so that the Republicans can’t say you know who the lottery winner is within minutes. Why does it take weeks to count votes?
One of whom was Jewish.
As I understand it the Samaritans were heretical Hebrews in that they didn’t kowtow to the temple priests in Jerusalem but had their own temple. Did they really inbreed so thoroughly that they are still essentially the same mob a couple of thousand years later? Maybe so.
https://digitalcommons.wayne.edu/humbiol_preprints/40/
says “This result supports the position of the Samaritans that they are descendants from the tribes of Israel dating to before the Assyrian exile in 722–720 BCE.”
Has anyone got a link to more recent work?
God the real estate agent, oy vey. Had a sense of humor too, leading his Chosen to the only place in the Middle East without oil. Otherwise, he did choose location, location, location, very wisely. The land is of little value, being largely desert, but it is on the great natural migration track from Africa and Asia to Europe. It has been traversed by roving bands and occasional settlers since before they were fully human. Much later, great empires waged wars for control of the region primarily to keep the riches of distant lands flowing securely into their treasuries. The egomania of Judaism is embarrassingly ludicrous given the reality of their insignificance in the ancient world.
It was so insignificant that the Romans built a triumphal arch in the middle of Rome when they conquered it:
https://ka-perseus-images.s3.amazonaws.com/fd932f112ebb329e637462a948504b5dbe4b4335.jpg
and they minted coins that said "Juda Capta"
https://ka-perseus-images.s3.amazonaws.com/6afbd14be75676b0936e93e8c76807a82d25d809.jpg
The Romans always did that when they conquered somewhere insignificant.
Nubian King
Listen people. “When you tear out a man’s tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you’re only telling the world that you fear what he might say”
Catherine Frye
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We fled to Africa to hide, and the ones that didn’t get captured they started taking up there rituals etc.
Chevy Neeley
God brought us back and made us suffer for this time and place …The awakening…we are here because it’s ours we had to come back here to our home when we left before slavery remember queen California and Grand canyon remember… remember who we are
And in precisely the same way, this bonus golf-architectural content is perpetually on-topic here…
At long last the Lidoites have found a new homeland for their people! I predict a Forever War with the latter-day Wisconsinite occupants, but where G_d’s will is involved you gotta break some eggs once in a while:
I think one study estimated a bottleneck of 350 Ashkenazim around 800 years ago. Christian Europe was ironically enough fertile ground for Jews even as ghetto and city dwellers.
If only the Samaritians had bought a handful of those early Italian women for wives. Nowdays they’d have to make a deal with the Amish.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/ashkenazi-jews-descend-from-350-people-study-finds/
Cute comment. But God’s promise of a home in the promised land was never exclusive or unconditional, it was just that if the Jews would behave themselves (be just, fair, honest and upright) in relation to their neighbors in the promised land they would find a place to live. See here for details: shorturl.at/EJRST
https://thebricktestament.com/the_wilderness/instructions_for_genocide/dt05_01p07_01.html
The land now belongs to a people birthed by Italian mothers in the 7th century.
Wrong to want it in the first place or wrong to want it back?
It appears you support the, rather hard-nosed, doctrine that if someone or other conquers a piece of real estate, they also ought keep it until somebody else moves in, and them out. Is your idea on immigration also informed by this notion of realism? If so, do you support open borders?
Curious minds and such.
Funny. Even that leaves out a few of the more short lived caliphates. And what about the natufians?
Coming to a golf club near Steve if the Kagan's get their way.Replies: @Anon
My immediate reaction to this was that it was a joke or spoof. But the newspaper of record, the Daily Mail, set me straight. It’s a real wartime document from a real golf club. However it’s another question whether it was 100 percent serious at the time. It may have been a stiff-upper-lip middle finger to Hitler, a sort of not letting the terrorists win thing, or a Lambeth Walk style tongue-in-cheek morale booster.
Hmm?
https://thebricktestament.com/the_wilderness/instructions_for_genocide/dt05_01p07_01.html
Inflation matters. That war was still calculated in millions of dollars.
It would be: encouragé
Steve is busy working on an article about golf course architecture… He can’t be bothered by trivial things like A-list celebs getting cancelled for not worshipping Jews enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tIdCsMufIYhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Paley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seder-Masochism#MusicReplies: @Franz, @Gary in Gramercy, @The Anti-Gnostic
Clever. And reminder of one of our great old guy’s sayings, either Buffalo Joe or Buzz Mohawk: human history is waves, ebbing and flowing. If you don’t hold, someone else will take.
Paley, like a lot of Ashkenazi, is not showing up for the future but Jews with more blood-and-soil ethos will.
I tend to agree with prognosticators who say Israel is going to get more Middle Eastern-y. The future majority non-white US is going to have other priorities and Israelis will have to figure out how to get along better with their fellow Semites. Don’t American Jews already consider Israeli Jews kind of declasse’?
https://townsquare.media/site/295/files/2021/08/attachment-Gene-Simmons.jpg?w=980&q=75
Silver could be the offspring of that creature in Alien.
When was the last time you saw him together with Sigourney Weaver?
An HD recording of last Saturday's Met performance of La Traviata will be shown in theaters nationwide Wednesday at 1:30 pm and 6:30 pm with subtitles.
I saw it live in New York and Nadine Sierra as Violetta was superb.
If you have ever thought about seeing an opera, start here.
Search here to find a theater near you: https://www.metopera.org/season/in-cinemas/theater-finderReplies: @Ganderson
Isn’t La Traviata the background opera for the closing scenes of the Marx Brothers’ “A Night at the Opera?”
slumber_j writes:
Ahh, the brass-knuckle course!
The European community is ultimately responsible for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and not only because it was European anti-Semitism, culminating in the Holocaust, that drove the Jews out of Europe, but because it was Western statesmen on the allied side during World War I who decided to solve their Jewish problem by giving someone else’s land away. See here for details: shorturl.at/jwGHM
The conflict between Israel and the Palestinians will never be settled until Europe acknowledges its moral and historical responsibility for causing the conflict in the first place and agrees to compensate the Palestinian people for their losses as part of a final settlement. I discuss what such compensation might look like in the introduction to my book, Three Uneasy Pieces (about the Bible and History) which is available on Amazon.
We don’t know the genetics of the ancient Hebrews and in fact putting aside the Biblical myths we know almost nothing about the historical Hebrews. However it is likely that present day Palestinians have a lot more of the “blood of Abraham” than Ashkenazi Jews.Replies: @mc23, @Yahya, @Luke Lea
Minor nitpick: Ashkenazi Jews are roughly 45% Middle Eastern and 55% European. Of the latter component, 40% is Southern and 15% is Northern European. The Middle Eastern component isn’t necessarily Palestinian per se, but could be from any place inhabited by Roman-period Jews from Alexandria up to Anatolia. The Southern European component is almost certainly Italian, though some could be Iberian. The Northern European admixture would’ve came from Central and Eastern Europeans where the Ashkenazim settled during their stay in Europe.
It’s more difficult to ascertain what percentage of Palestinian DNA is comprised of Canaanite stock, due to the fact that Arabian DNA shares a Natufian component with Canaanite samples. My guess based on the admixture graphs and PCA’s i’ve seen is that Palestinians are roughly 80-85% Canaanite/Hebraic/Judaic, and 15-20% admixed with Arabian, Caucasian, Turkish and Sub-Saharan DNA. Palestinian Christians would likely be less admixed with the latter components; but I haven’t seen separate samples of their DNA yet.
So yes Palestinians likely retain more Hebraic ancestry than Ashkenazi Jews, which is probably obvious just going off phenotypes; AJ’s look fairly distinct from any surrounding Middle Eastern population, whereas Palestinians look recognizably Middle Eastern and are difficult to visually separate from Samaritans, Druze, Iraqi Jews etc.
But ultimately nearly every ethnic and sub-ethnic group in Israel/Palestine, except Ethiopian and perhaps Yemeni Jews, possess a large degree of “Hebraic” ancestry. In other words, all can claim to have ancestors who lived in the land at some particular point in history. This partly explains the intractability of the conflict.
We don’t know the genetics of the ancient Hebrews and in fact putting aside the Biblical myths we know almost nothing about the historical Hebrews. However it is likely that present day Palestinians have a lot more of the “blood of Abraham” than Ashkenazi Jews.Replies: @mc23, @Yahya, @Luke Lea
It’s not the blood of Abraham, but the spirt of Abraham that counts.
An argument based on naked conquest would be far more honest.
I wonder if anyone has tried a variation on the land acknowledgement: instead of acknowledging Natives, you shout out to the Blacks who were gentrified out of the area.
I should have written “their God-fearing neighbors” since according to the Torah if you were not God-fearing you were not really human, and thus could not be trusted. This is one of the implications of true humans being created in the image of God (meaning the Hebraic conception of a God who is just and judges all human beings by a single standard of justice based on their behavior in relation to other God-fearing human beings). If you were God-fearing in that sense (as are the Muslims today by the way) you could be trusted, meaning that you could enter into treaties with and agree to live together.
This is all based on a close reading of Genesis and the Bible more generally. All documented here:
shorturl.at/qsFIU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yet2Q0M32GQReplies: @clifford brown, @Bardon Kaldian
As crazy it may sound, Scientology sometimes “works”.
It is essentially a marriage of primitive gnosis and sci fi fantasy. But, apart from being a brainwashing & rapacious exploitatory cult, it may result in an individual’s cathartic experience & expansion of consciousness. Scientology’s “auditing” (E-meter) is nothing but accelerated psychoanalysis; most people don’t get anything from it, but some repressed individuals may experience strong psycho-physical change when pent-up complexes literally explode. Then, they may feel a sort of “rebirth”, followed by ecstatic bliss.
Other cults & techniques can produce similar results (Charles Berner- Enlightenment intensive; Stanislav Grof- Holotropic breathing).
I surmise that Travolta & Cruise had those experiences I call “small cosmic consciousness”, but got trapped in ego-trips & various ego-boosting delusions.
Unlike Berner & Grof, Scientology is a malign exploitation machine, too. Castaneda was also a malign psycho guru, just like Hubbard (both invented lunatic pop-myths: in the case of L.R. Hubbard, it was a science fiction parody of gnosis, while with Castaneda it was a faux-shamanism he transformed into “Nagualism”, which is an absolutely crazy cartoon of an initiatory cult).
Miserable examples of decadent pop-gnosis.
Sure, let’s schedule that for one week after the Jews recognize that the admixture of white blood was crucial to their reputation for genius, and that white gentiles gave them the best deals they ever had.
The best thing in Joseph Heller’s God Knows is probably the simple retelling of the text with a sarcastic tone (eg, it’s no miracle that David hit Goliath, because shepard boys generally have nothing to do but sling practice, plus Goliath is big and so an easy target). In the Exodus episode Moses talks God out of exterminating the Egypt-sick Israelites by pointing out that He just went through a lot of trouble to free His people, and if the point of all that was to take them to the middle of nowhere so they could die, it would kind of make Him look stupid.
https://www.songfacts.com/facts/pat-boone/the-exodus-song-this-land-is-mineReplies: @Unintended Consequence
The Boone’s are also related to George Clooney and his Muslim wife. They are absolutely impressed with her wonderosness so don’t any of you evil white racists say anything against her!
“We acknowledge this land used to belong to the Canaanites, then us,”
And, … who did this land belong to before the Canaanites? Before the Canaanites, but after the Neanderthals and after the apes?
So there’s the rub.
In a court of law, written evidence is among the most strongest to present in court. Having a book that explicitly states that “this land belongs to us”, and the book is dated a few millennia ago, in lack of any other written evidence pertaining to right of possession, would tend to favor the People of the Book, who had written down that “this land belongs to us, starting in ca.1000BC “. Not like the Canaanites wrote down “THIS land belongs to us, starting in ca. 1500 BC “.
*And also, the Canaanites no longer exist in their original form, (and today no one is 100% certain who the descendants of the Canaanites are), whereas the People of the Book very much do remain and can more or less trace a direct lineage back to when they first conquered the land a few millennia ago.
So then, barring direct written evidence that directly comments on right of possession during the times the land was in question, it all comes down to might makes right.
The takeaway from history: If you’re a claimant on land, make sure you write it down or file the claim as soon as possible. That way it serves as direct written evidence and can be used in court of law.
Good one. In the joke is the truth of it though. Human history is a story of invasion, slaughter and rape–conquest.
If you want to live in a pleasant world … let’s just not do that anymore. Stop the invasions! Let’s have borders where one group of people can live in their nation according to their norms, language, religion, culture … and other people can live in theirs according to their norms and culture.
This allows people to positively compete to make their individual patches really great–including not being overpopulated. And it preserves the glorious “diversity” of mankind we here so much about.
Obvious fair minded common sense. So what’s going on with the people that hate this idea?
Sometimes when guests overstay their welcome in your house you have to give them certain hints that it’s time to leave. The British did some “not nice” things too under their mandate, like hanging Jewish freedom fighters:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olei_Hagardom
Yes, everyone knows that the British (the UK is smaller than California) conquered an Empire that spanned the entire planet and ruled billions by being super nice. (British cars suck but their propaganda machine is absolutely 1st class).
As far as undermining the UK, Britain has a tiny Jewish community and it generally supports the Conservative party so the situation is nothing like that of the US. What you describe is not true in the US either but it’s especially not true in Britain.
What does a secular state have to do with a promise from God? A promise the forefathers of these people broke so many times God handed them into captivity six centuries before Christ?
An argument based on naked conquest would be far more honest.
And what about the USS Liberty – you forgot to mention the Liberty!
And people here say that Emmett Till was long ago. When it comes to their pet grievances, they are like elephants.
How many British sergeants did the Germans kill in two world wars? Ten thousand times as many ? A hundred thousand? Maybe Stalin had it right: “The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of a million is a statistic.”
But Germany and the UK are the best of friends now. All is forgiven.
Additionally, with interest rates rising, it's drying up tech in the US. So the make-believe tech in Israel is definitely toast. Israel will likely coast on US Boomer fumes and handouts, which will get them to 2030. Beyond that, there will be a fundamental realignment. Potentially, pragmatic Israelis can put up with Russia or China, but it won't be the US or Europe.Replies: @Anonynoose, @That Would Be Telling, @Pixo, @AnotherDad, @Lockean Proviso
What garbage is this? You denying they’ve in times past designed and built their own jets and tanks (and for the latter made an innovation we’re copying with our new light tank, put the engine in front to provide additional protection to the crew)? Iron Dome isn’t a thing??
About the highest tech we have today is fabricating semiconductors which is a field I’ve been following for decades. Per Wikipedia and memory, they’ve got four fabs, two now doing older processes which is starting with COVID became a very very hot thing. And two Intel, one of which is trying to like every other Intel 7 fab line make chips at acceptable yields, that is economically, but as far as I know it’s none of their fault for that disaster. Before then I’m pretty sure I remember them successfully doing Intel’s previous and for the time cutting edge 14 nm node.
This is very real world stuff, very hard to do especially economically as the PRC was finding out before we dropped the hammer on Xi/the CCP, you make chips that work or you don’t.
I’m not saying this as a fan of Israel or Israeli Jews who frequently demonstrate themselves to be the enemies of all who live like their diaspora brethren, but to avoid our underestimating them. Know your enemy and all that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olei_Hagardom
Yes, everyone knows that the British (the UK is smaller than California) conquered an Empire that spanned the entire planet and ruled billions by being super nice. (British cars suck but their propaganda machine is absolutely 1st class).
As far as undermining the UK, Britain has a tiny Jewish community and it generally supports the Conservative party so the situation is nothing like that of the US. What you describe is not true in the US either but it's especially not true in Britain.Replies: @dearieme, @Edmund, @Rich
like hanging Jewish freedom fighters:
One of the merits of the Zionist gangsters in Palestine was that they were the last bunch of terrorists honest enough to actually call themselves terrorists: no “freedom fighter” marketing twaddle for them.
Not so fast:
https://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/energy-and-infrastructure/article-721662
And yet somehow it was central to the birth of the 3 major religions of the Western world.
It was so insignificant that the Romans built a triumphal arch in the middle of Rome when they conquered it:
and they minted coins that said “Juda Capta”
The Romans always did that when they conquered somewhere insignificant.
If you want to live in a pleasant world ... let's just not do that anymore. Stop the invasions! Let's have borders where one group of people can live in their nation according to their norms, language, religion, culture ... and other people can live in theirs according to their norms and culture.
This allows people to positively compete to make their individual patches really great--including not being overpopulated. And it preserves the glorious "diversity" of mankind we here so much about.
Obvious fair minded common sense. So what's going on with the people that hate this idea?Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
This idea is not reality. You are demanding far too much of human nature if you think that the whole of mankind is going to settle down into some mutually respectful, supranational Kantian republic. Conflict is an inevitable fact of life, and the best that you can do is fight one battle at a time and try to find a modus vivendi when possible. You cannot engineer permanent peace in this world. It doesn’t exist.
But we had to invade and invite, so here we are.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
Paley, like a lot of Ashkenazi, is not showing up for the future but Jews with more blood-and-soil ethos will.
I tend to agree with prognosticators who say Israel is going to get more Middle Eastern-y. The future majority non-white US is going to have other priorities and Israelis will have to figure out how to get along better with their fellow Semites. Don't American Jews already consider Israeli Jews kind of declasse'?Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus, @Colin Wright
Speaking of Buffalo Joe, has anyone heard from him lately? He hasn’t commented for a couple of months. One fears the worst.
Wow, we white people need some of that.
The whole “anti-Semitism” deal is amazing. What other group in the world has bothered to manufacture a label for other peoples not liking them–and seriously who likes any middle-man minority? (for the obvious reasons)–and then been able to propagandize it into some sort official offense that’s the worst thing ever?
If we white people–you know the people that actually settled and built America–had a similar “anti-white-gentilism” offense, half the Jews in America would have their jobs and property confiscated have been tossed in prison on expelled.
American Jews–regularly, routinely, every day–spew anti-white gentile abuse and invective, just as full of lies and fantasy as whatever Afro-centric nonsense this bozo was linking and far, far, far more destructive.
Steve’s commenters have been particularly good this week und es kommt sie ein bisschen rindfleisch.
I could never understand how Silver rose to top of his chosen profession. He really looks like he sleeps in a crypt by day; a dead ringer for Nosferatu.
"Lisa" wants to take risks and truly grow! Critic Val Misra says: "Lisa’s brand values seamlessly flow throughout the essay: creativity, determination, overcoming obstacles, self-reflection, growth through risk and, of course, passion!"Camp counselor Charles Wong stands up for the little guy! Fortunately none of the critics is sharp enough to identify fabrications:"The reader can feel his concern; Charles walks us through his genuine dilemma. Additionally, the acts of kindness he describes—the pep talks, the hugs—offer insight into his character. The decision to include these details paint Charles as a kind and bright personality, something of value on any college campus."(I skipped the rest of that one.).......
Did "Michelle Choi" mean batter or banter?? Who cares.This black chick is so edgy! ADMIT!Eda buys a house for her parents! Reviewer says: "Honest. Heartbreaking. Powerful."...."Michelle" recalls visiting the countryside with her grandfather in China.That'll come in handy when Michelle is attacked on the T by some guys who aren't exactly white male adjacent.
https://www.thecrimson.com/topic/sponsored-successful-harvard-essays-2022/Replies: @J.Ross, @Gary in Gramercy, @kaganovitch, @Jim Don Bob
Ye-Ye is the Mandarin word for “grandfather.” My Ye-Ye is a simple, ordinary person—not rich, not “successful”—but he is my greatest source of inspiration and I idolize him.
Wait till Kanye hears about this! Is the World ready for ‘YeYeYeezy’?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olei_Hagardom
Yes, everyone knows that the British (the UK is smaller than California) conquered an Empire that spanned the entire planet and ruled billions by being super nice. (British cars suck but their propaganda machine is absolutely 1st class).
As far as undermining the UK, Britain has a tiny Jewish community and it generally supports the Conservative party so the situation is nothing like that of the US. What you describe is not true in the US either but it's especially not true in Britain.Replies: @dearieme, @Edmund, @Rich
The British executed terrorists.
The British refused to treat the Jewish freedom fighters as soldiers or hold them as POWs. They treated them as criminals and executed them for their "crimes". But they expected their own soldiers to be treated as such. The basis of the Geneva Conventions is reciprocity - if you give reciprocity you get it back in return. If you don't then don't expect the other side to either. Name calling ("terrorists") doesn't change anything.
I thought imitation was the sincerest form of flattery, yet now if a Gentile says, “But we’re really Jews”, apparently it’s the worst thing ever.
If you’re not allowed to join and you’re not allowed to criticize, … what’s left?
Only conflict.
The cause of certain historical patterns is … becoming clearer.
The issue isn’t the Black Israelites claiming to be Jewish, but their claiming the actual Jews are frauds.
Jews do not generally have issues with other groups claiming to be “lost tribes” when they do not dispute their authenticity.Replies: @Almost Missouri
Remember old Pat–who really was the World’s Most Interesting Man? Yes, it’s unfortunately an old corner of the Internet.
Wait till Kanye hears about this! Is the World ready for 'YeYeYeezy'?Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
“Ye-Ye is the Mandarin word for “grandfather.” My Ye-Ye is a simple, ordinary person”
But if he had taken Expos (which I guess now he will), it would be clear that he could have simply said “My grandfather is a simple, ordinary person.” Which is a rather banal statement. The only reason to mention this Ye-Ye stuff is to broadcast, loud and clear, I AM CHINESE!!! I AM DIVERSE, SEE? PICK MEEEEE!!!!!!11!!1!!!
Wrong kind of diverse, though, buddy.
We used to call this kind of stuff the “I rrremember theeee smells of my grrandmother’s keeeetchen” essay.
Additionally, with interest rates rising, it's drying up tech in the US. So the make-believe tech in Israel is definitely toast. Israel will likely coast on US Boomer fumes and handouts, which will get them to 2030. Beyond that, there will be a fundamental realignment. Potentially, pragmatic Israelis can put up with Russia or China, but it won't be the US or Europe.Replies: @Anonynoose, @That Would Be Telling, @Pixo, @AnotherDad, @Lockean Proviso
There’s no evidence that Jewish-Israeli birthrates are dysgenic as you allege.
1. Ex USSR Ashkenazi-Slav hybrids have the lowest birthrate of Jewish groups. While around 105IQ, that’s not as high as pure AJs.
2. Fertility is eugenic within traditional very high fertility AJ communities for the same reasons it was in the middle ages: larger family sizes for wealthier higher IQ men and eugenic marriage policies.
3. Non-AJ Jewish groups have lower fertility than AJs.
Even if you understand the words (“they deserve a little bite of beef”), you really have to understand the cultural context. Back in the Old Country, unless you were the Kaiser, you might have beef in your diet but not a lot of it. You would go to the butcher and he would hack off a kilo of beef on the bone, (more bone than meat) because that was all that you could afford (and the poor couldn’t even afford that). You would put that in your soup pot along with a whole bunch of vegetables (this is healthier than eating a big juicy steak but they didn’t do it because it was healthy) and that potful of soup (along with a lot of bread and potatoes) was dinner for your whole family which probably included 6 or 7 kids or maybe more. When the soup was getting ladled out, most people got just the vegetables or maybe a tiny shred of beef but if you were an honored guest or maybe the breadwinner, the lady of the house would take the trouble to make sure that your soup bowl included ein bisschen rindfleisch and not just cabbage.
“ I don’t think the Canaanites were the first.”
“Canaanites” seems to be the accepted term for the entire initial Semitic population of the Southern Levant at the dawn of history, including proto-Jews who were likely a Canaanite subgroup.
The whole "anti-Semitism" deal is amazing. What other group in the world has bothered to manufacture a label for other peoples not liking them--and seriously who likes any middle-man minority? (for the obvious reasons)--and then been able to propagandize it into some sort official offense that's the worst thing ever?
If we white people--you know the people that actually settled and built America--had a similar "anti-white-gentilism" offense, half the Jews in America would have their jobs and property confiscated have been tossed in prison on expelled.
American Jews--regularly, routinely, every day--spew anti-white gentile abuse and invective, just as full of lies and fantasy as whatever Afro-centric nonsense this bozo was linking and far, far, far more destructive.Replies: @Almost Missouri
Next the Pawnees laid claim to the Black Hills, even before the Crows, at that point the tribes said, "Never Mind!"Replies: @Curle
Same argument made by some Muskogee who are in confederation with the Yuchi who live in some undesirable part of South Carolina after the Spanish burned their villages and the Cherokee ‘stole’ their land and the Cherokee now have a nice profit turning casino in North Carolina while the Yuchi have bupkis.
Additionally, with interest rates rising, it's drying up tech in the US. So the make-believe tech in Israel is definitely toast. Israel will likely coast on US Boomer fumes and handouts, which will get them to 2030. Beyond that, there will be a fundamental realignment. Potentially, pragmatic Israelis can put up with Russia or China, but it won't be the US or Europe.Replies: @Anonynoose, @That Would Be Telling, @Pixo, @AnotherDad, @Lockean Proviso
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TWBT and Pixo have really covered the ground, but this doesn’t really make much sense.
Israel lacks “scale” and certainly must cooperate with other nations, but overall–excepting, of course, occupying a bunch of people who aren’t part of its nation–Israel is in surprisingly good shape.
As TWBT notes, they have smart folks able to operate industries at the leading edge of technology.
And as Pixo notes, they–almost uniquely among modern nations–have a decent eugenic fertility picture. The biggest baby factories are precisely traditionalist Ashkenazi–the Hasids and other ultra-Orthodox. (Specifics left to kaganovitch.) I think they do have a serious problem, in that so many of those men are essentially parasities–men full time studying the Talmud, skipping army service, no useful employment, big welfare use. But the babies churned should not be disgenic. Israel just needs to lower the boom on the environmental side and demand that they carry their own weight–militarily and productively.
Nonetheless, Israel has at least cracked the nut in terms getting intelligent modern women to take an interest in having babies, rather than “you go girl!” careerism and incessantly posting on Faceborg and Instawhore.
May rough take of the future is we (America) are slumping toward Brazil. The Euros are committing suicide and the future is pretty much being handed to the Chinese without them having to do much of anything. But Israel has actually cracked the eugenic fertility nut while the Chinese still have not.
Maybe white people should consider some of that ethno-nationalism stuff?
When you internalize the message that the most important thing you will ever do, indeed, the most important thing you can do, is raise a family, you are orders of magnitude less likely to abandon home and hearth for Eat ,Pray, Love/I'm not fulfilled crap. This is true even of Haredi women who , in Israel , bring in most of the family income as well as raising the children.
Regarding entering the work force/contributing; what can't go on forever, won't go on forever. The Israeli Haredi model is not sustainable economically in the long run and will give way to arrangements which are.
The future is already here, in fact:
https://static.euronews.com/articles/stories/07/15/56/44/1100x619_cmsv2_e22eeeb8-1636-54b2-9c86-e3b88ef1b879-7155644.jpgReplies: @mc23
If you're not allowed to join and you're not allowed to criticize, ... what's left?
Only conflict.
The cause of certain historical patterns is ... becoming clearer.Replies: @Pixo
“ now if a Gentile says, “But we’re really Jews”, apparently it’s the worst thing ever.”
The issue isn’t the Black Israelites claiming to be Jewish, but their claiming the actual Jews are frauds.
Jews do not generally have issues with other groups claiming to be “lost tribes” when they do not dispute their authenticity.
The cause of certain historical patterns is becoming clearer.
Unpacking the triple negative, this seems to say today’s Samaritans are not descended from the ones Jesus spoke of. Is that the intent?
And people here say that Emmett Till was long ago. When it comes to their pet grievances, they are like elephants.
How many British sergeants did the Germans kill in two world wars? Ten thousand times as many ? A hundred thousand? Maybe Stalin had it right: “The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of a million is a statistic.”
But Germany and the UK are the best of friends now. All is forgiven.Replies: @JimDandy, @Buzz Mohawk
Thanks for bringing up the USS Liberty. You’re a mensch.
Why does it take weeks to count votes?
In large western counties mail can be slower than expected getting between locations. Even more so for absentees sent from far flung places. How long does it take an ballot from Iraq to arrive?
Plus, the USPS may be slower than in the past.
Maybe the US used to be a more functional country or maybe it was a less Republican country so there was no need for Dems to hold the polls open for further counting, but before the Gore election I don't recall any of this endless recounting nonsense. The election results would be known by the following morning at the latest and this was without the digital resources we have to day - each precinct would just phone their results in and it worked just fine.Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Curle
Thanks, I’ve read your introduction in Three Uneasy Pieces and was impressed by your erudition and humane outlook; you’ve presented a convincing argument that Europe is to blame for the calamity that has befallen the Holy Land. I’m not convinced though with your proposed solution to the Israel-Palestine problem, namely that European compensation to Palestinians will solve the conflict. You mentioned a Palestinian delegate who suggested a payment of 500 billion dollars would suffice to compensate Palestinians for damages caused, also indicating that “blood money” is a key part of Arab culture, and that the right to settle in the West should be included as part of the compensation package.
First, I don’t get the impression that the idea of reparations is mainstream or even a significant demand made by the Palestinian side. The chief aim is to reclaim lost territory, not demand compensation. All polls indicate the plurality of Palestinians want to regain the land they’ve lost (and kick Jews out in the process). Some 46% would accept the two-state solution if it ends the conflict, but 54% say “the conflict should not end, and resistance should continue until all of historic Palestine is liberated.” Attitudes are even more maximalist concerning the long-term future. In both the West Bank and Gaza, the solid majority say that “eventually, the Palestinians will control almost all of Palestine.”
https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/half-palestinians-still-want-all-palestine-most-would-compromise-less
Palestinians are a stubborn bunch. If you listen to Palestinian folk music you will realize they have only one goal in mind: return to their land. And most of them believe they will eventually accomplish this goal, despite the procession of defeats of the past century. My hunch is that no amount of money will inhibit them from this. Resist The Hurricane, a song by the elegant and intelligent Lebanese-Palestinian signer Julia Boutros, expresses the Palestinian will quite eloquently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQBn4eeHAz8&ab_channel=%D9%87%D9%83%D8%B0%D8%A7%D8%AA%D9%83%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A
Key words here:
I’m also reminded of a scene in Hany Abu-Assad’s Paradise Now, in which Jamal tells Said: “what can you do when there is no freedom or justice? The individual has to fight for it. If we give into the law that says the strong devours the weak, we reduce ourselves to the level of animals. It would be intolerable. Death is better than inferiority.”
“Death is better than inferiority” and “Resist the hurricane, humiliation is destruction”. Here we get a good sense as to why Palestinians refuse to relinquish their demands for return. It’s more of a question of dignity and honor than land or money. One can admire these notions, but ultimately Palestinians will have to face the reality that they have lost, and that little can be done to salvage their situation. That is why I favor the one-state solution, and regard it as being the perhaps the only just and practical solution, though not necessarily the most probable.
Far better than monetary compensation, which gradually wears off, is an incorporation of Palestinians into an economically vibrant Israel, which would help raise their standards of living over the long-term. The process of economic integration could happen along the lines envisioned by Stef Wertheimer, through vocational training and industrial parks. Of course all this remains a pipe-dream insofar as neither Israelis nor Palestinians desire a one-state solution. So a shift in thinking will be a necessary pre-condition to a one-state solution. Here I think the idea of a common identity born out of shared ancestry could be interesting. Some early Zionists advocated the path of reconciliation with Arabs under the banner of “Semitic Nationalism”. But in my view common identification is unnecessary, tolerance as displayed by people like Nehum Goldmann, Daniel Barenboim, Edward Said and Elia Suleiman is sufficient to ensure co-existence.
None of this is likely to happen though, and my guess is that the Netanyahus and Hamasniks of the world will keep the conflict stationed in the dead-end zone it has been for the past 70 years.
These particular critics, if actually employed by an elite admissions office, must be rookies or otherwise easily impressed. Most experienced professionals strongly advise against what they refer to, derisively, as "the Grandparent Essay." The focus should always be on what makes you, the applicant, distinctive or unique. "Grandma isn't applying to Harvard: you are."
By the way, I read through the "successful Harvard essays," and to the extent they aren't complete fiction, they benefited from some professional editing or "massaging." (No "happy ending" jokes, thanks.) It's the rare 17-year-old who can write and edit an essay like this -- the best chance to distinguish oneself from all the other perfect applicants, so the pressure is immense -- without considerable outside input. (By that I don't mean having Mom and Dad, and maybe your junior year English teacher, look it over for spelling errors.)
I did like "Charles Wong's" account of being a camp counselor, though: as the critic pointed out, Charles followed the first rule for such essays: "Show, don't tell." (The second: "Less is more.")Replies: @Anon
I’d love to see some student submit a college essay with Less is More written on a sheet of paper and nothing else.
In PA at least, mail ballots only count if they are received by 8PM on election day. If you want your ballot to count and can’t vote in person, leave enough time for the ballot to arrive. How long do you have to hold the count open for late ballots? There has to be a deadline so might as well make it election day.
Maybe the US used to be a more functional country or maybe it was a less Republican country so there was no need for Dems to hold the polls open for further counting, but before the Gore election I don’t recall any of this endless recounting nonsense. The election results would be known by the following morning at the latest and this was without the digital resources we have to day – each precinct would just phone their results in and it worked just fine.
I have come across various mixed-race people who have a certain percentage of black DNA, but also Jewish DNA. Those Jewish slave owners before 1861 apparently slept a lot with their slaves. This is one thing modern DNA testing has revealed, but there hasn’t been much discussion of this yet.
It’s possible Kanye West had a DNA test done and it showed some Jewish ancestry, and he has some black friends with the same quirk, which is why he’s been making his remarks that blacks are Jews. Smarter blacks have a higher probability of having some Jewish ancestry.
Don’t know. I have never seen a Marx brothers movie.
Brother Kyrie was not cancelled for claiming the Earth Is Flat. This is a very serious, influential thinker, but he was not suspended from the The League because of his well developed theories about the shape of the Earth.
Flat Earthism is the first step to realizing the Hollow Earth Truth.
Steph Curry was not suspended for saying the Moon Landing Was Fake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN_3FfznXLEReplies: @Muggles
Steph Curry is the 3 Pointer King!
The others, well, not so much.
Steph stays, the others have to attend Silver’s Re-Education Camp. (Sorry fellas, no bacon…)
"Lisa" wants to take risks and truly grow! Critic Val Misra says: "Lisa’s brand values seamlessly flow throughout the essay: creativity, determination, overcoming obstacles, self-reflection, growth through risk and, of course, passion!"Camp counselor Charles Wong stands up for the little guy! Fortunately none of the critics is sharp enough to identify fabrications:"The reader can feel his concern; Charles walks us through his genuine dilemma. Additionally, the acts of kindness he describes—the pep talks, the hugs—offer insight into his character. The decision to include these details paint Charles as a kind and bright personality, something of value on any college campus."(I skipped the rest of that one.).......
Did "Michelle Choi" mean batter or banter?? Who cares.This black chick is so edgy! ADMIT!Eda buys a house for her parents! Reviewer says: "Honest. Heartbreaking. Powerful."...."Michelle" recalls visiting the countryside with her grandfather in China.That'll come in handy when Michelle is attacked on the T by some guys who aren't exactly white male adjacent.
https://www.thecrimson.com/topic/sponsored-successful-harvard-essays-2022/Replies: @J.Ross, @Gary in Gramercy, @kaganovitch, @Jim Don Bob
My daughter wrote this for her college essay, and I think it helped get her admitted because it was off beat. The general idea was mine, but she wrote it. I did a bit of proof reading but that’s it.
Maybe the US used to be a more functional country or maybe it was a less Republican country so there was no need for Dems to hold the polls open for further counting, but before the Gore election I don't recall any of this endless recounting nonsense. The election results would be known by the following morning at the latest and this was without the digital resources we have to day - each precinct would just phone their results in and it worked just fine.Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Curle
Very true. The Daley machine put JFK over the top and into the presidency before dawn the next day. Voting machines have made things worse, not better.
That's obviously not what the Daley human political machine did after they knew how many downstate votes they still needed to overcome, but that morning feature implies it can be done later after there are no more pesky live voters in the room to observe shenanigans.
Maybe the US used to be a more functional country or maybe it was a less Republican country so there was no need for Dems to hold the polls open for further counting, but before the Gore election I don't recall any of this endless recounting nonsense. The election results would be known by the following morning at the latest and this was without the digital resources we have to day - each precinct would just phone their results in and it worked just fine.Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Curle
“How long do you have to hold the count open for late ballots?”
In the 2020 Nov. 3 general election the last batch of mailed ballots counted in my county arrived Nov. 23, twenty days following Election Day.
Even weirder, drop box ballots were collected as late as Nov. 5.
This is pure anti-Semitism
I take pleasure in the fact that you vicious subhumans will lose.
No one will follow your religion. Your features will die out. You are done
You will lose the election
Die now and curse in vainReplies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Muggles
So they gave you back your computer privileges, did they?
Now learn to keep your keyboard Hate under control…
Sometimes it takes days for that fresh ink on the ballots to dry…
“These essays make a reader look forward to a Zardozian future in which these ‘people’ are made to farm at gunpoint.”
Or better still, dig their own graves. I can’t imagine these Harvard-bound idiots ever being useful in a sane world.
Nonetheless, Israel has at least cracked the nut in terms getting intelligent modern women to take an interest in having babies, rather than “you go girl!” careerism and incessantly posting on Faceborg and Instawhore.
When you internalize the message that the most important thing you will ever do, indeed, the most important thing you can do, is raise a family, you are orders of magnitude less likely to abandon home and hearth for Eat ,Pray, Love/I’m not fulfilled crap. This is true even of Haredi women who , in Israel , bring in most of the family income as well as raising the children.
Regarding entering the work force/contributing; what can’t go on forever, won’t go on forever. The Israeli Haredi model is not sustainable economically in the long run and will give way to arrangements which are.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olei_Hagardom
Yes, everyone knows that the British (the UK is smaller than California) conquered an Empire that spanned the entire planet and ruled billions by being super nice. (British cars suck but their propaganda machine is absolutely 1st class).
As far as undermining the UK, Britain has a tiny Jewish community and it generally supports the Conservative party so the situation is nothing like that of the US. What you describe is not true in the US either but it's especially not true in Britain.Replies: @dearieme, @Edmund, @Rich
But what exactly is the Ashkenazi claim to the land? Modern genetics traces their earliest appearance to Italy. Is it based on the Roman claim to Palestine? Modern Ashkenazi don’t practice the religion of the actual Judeans that lived there and aren’t genetically related to them. It isn’t their house. Now the Mizrahi might be able to make a legitimate claim, but I haven’t come across a genetic study about their origins.
With “ash” and “nazi” in Ashkenazi, they really need to find a new word. It’s so triggering.
Sand acknowledgement: Canada’s deadliest province
And people here say that Emmett Till was long ago. When it comes to their pet grievances, they are like elephants.
How many British sergeants did the Germans kill in two world wars? Ten thousand times as many ? A hundred thousand? Maybe Stalin had it right: “The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of a million is a statistic.”
But Germany and the UK are the best of friends now. All is forgiven.Replies: @JimDandy, @Buzz Mohawk
They were at war then, moron (/deceiver.)
Paley, like a lot of Ashkenazi, is not showing up for the future but Jews with more blood-and-soil ethos will.
I tend to agree with prognosticators who say Israel is going to get more Middle Eastern-y. The future majority non-white US is going to have other priorities and Israelis will have to figure out how to get along better with their fellow Semites. Don't American Jews already consider Israeli Jews kind of declasse'?Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus, @Colin Wright
Starting with Chaïm Witz:
War isn’t a tennis match. There are serious grievances involved. And not all of it is water under the bridge. The Liberty incident is a pimple compared to what went on during the two world wars, and was a single incident during a war at the end of which the Jews in Israel might have been massacred if they had lost. You may love Germans and hate Jews. The American public’s sentiments are the reverse of your own, albeit at a lower level of intensity. Even if the Liberty attack was deliberate, it was at worst a skirmish whereas Germans killed almost 500K Americans. Calling it “a war” doesn’t bring the dead back to life and provides no comfort to the parents, widows and orphans of the fighting men killed.
-- (http://www.gtr5.com/)
Paley, like a lot of Ashkenazi, is not showing up for the future but Jews with more blood-and-soil ethos will.
I tend to agree with prognosticators who say Israel is going to get more Middle Eastern-y. The future majority non-white US is going to have other priorities and Israelis will have to figure out how to get along better with their fellow Semites. Don't American Jews already consider Israeli Jews kind of declasse'?Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus, @Colin Wright
The future is Generation Z. You’re too proud to admit it. Now run along to your country club with Squatty Guats at your beck and call.
The thing is, in reality Jews dominated Palestine for about three centuries and only actually ruled it for about eighty years.
Worse, those who call themselves ‘Jews’ today don’t trace much of their DNA to Palestine in any case. It’s all a bit like if I declared myself a Chumash Indian, showed up at Steve’s door, and told him this was my land.
Paley, like a lot of Ashkenazi, is not showing up for the future but Jews with more blood-and-soil ethos will.
I tend to agree with prognosticators who say Israel is going to get more Middle Eastern-y. The future majority non-white US is going to have other priorities and Israelis will have to figure out how to get along better with their fellow Semites. Don't American Jews already consider Israeli Jews kind of declasse'?Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus, @Colin Wright
‘…Don’t American Jews already consider Israeli Jews kind of declasse’?
There are a lot of Israeli Jewish criminals operating in America — and their victims of choice seem to be American Jews.
I remember I once worked up a long-distance moving bid for the parents of some former customers of mine. They were Jewish, and their (elderly, Jewish) parents had had a really bad experience with their previous movers.
A light went off, and I inquired, ‘were the movers Israeli?’
Bingo.
https://youtu.be/nb_R1VZqLcE
(Note: Tom Hanks probably coined the phrase "Sony guts" as an Israeli consumer electronics store employee on an SNL sketch, "Sabra Price is Right," with an accent so perfect you could fry falafel on it. Couldn't find the sketch on YT -- imagine that.)
“Canaanites” seems to be the accepted term for the entire initial Semitic population of the Southern Levant at the dawn of history, including proto-Jews who were likely a Canaanite subgroup.Replies: @Twinkie
Yes on the last part. No on the first. Canaanites typically refer to the Bronze Age people in the southern Levant who likely descended from the intrusive populations from Zagros and/or Caucasus or possibly a branch of the Amorites (their Iron Age descendants being Phoenicians). Prior to that the area was inhabited by Natufians with a different genetic makeup and are possibly related to North African groups.
Punching down and shrieking as if being punched down, all at the same time.
Maybe. The future elites of the West are going to be increasingly Indian, not Chinese.
The future is already here, in fact:
And Eilat, so they’d have a port on the Red Sea, and Ashdod, so they’d have a decent port on the Mediterranean . . . it’s a shame G-d forgot to tell them in Biblical times.
The future is already here, in fact:
https://static.euronews.com/articles/stories/07/15/56/44/1100x619_cmsv2_e22eeeb8-1636-54b2-9c86-e3b88ef1b879-7155644.jpgReplies: @mc23
Stalin said quantity has a quality all its own. The Hindus in the West are competent, assertive and importantly for the sake of their success, numerous.
You’re responding to days-old comments. Do you really look up commenters’ TLs and go down the list? Strange, obsessive behavior.
Yeah, but that Marx Brothers guy who wrote the score stole all that from Bugs Bunny anyway.
So if it’s all about land acknowledgement, do the “real Americans” have ultimate claim over the U.S.? After all, God is on their side, right? “Real Americans” should a lesson from Israel and hold their civilization as tight as they can, away from vibrants and undesirables. Because thats what you come across as supporting.
Have you ever asked yourself where all the Christians and Jews that used to live all throughout the M.E. went to?
Are you concerned with over 1,000,000 Frenchmen thrown out of Algeria by Muslims?
How about Greek Cypriots thrown out of Cypress? Refugees from India’s partition? “Asians” from Uganda? Rohinga Muslims and Karens in Burma? Uighurs in China? Tibetans? Sudeten Germans?
Short answer: some countries take in their co-religionist or co-ethnics or co-racials, and some countries and cultures don’t.
Israel does, the Muslims don’t.
600,000 Jews were thrown out of Arab Muslim Lands where they had been residing for centuries, from way before the founding of Islam- heck, before Muhammad molested his first 9 year old. Israel took them in. The Muslims wanted nothing to do with their own kind- not that I can blame them.
I’m sure that the butchery that went on in Lebanon must have also been the fault of the Jews.
Israel does, the Muslims don’t...'
Think how much better off the United States would be if we'd anticipated the Israeli example. Come one, come all...Christians only, of course.
Yes, they did. Do you know why?
The British were treating the guerilla fighters as terrorists and ignoring the rules of warfare. The guerillas had warned the British that if they hanged their prisoners, they would retaliate in kind.
The British called their “bluff”, and the guerillas then hung two British M.P.s that they had captured.
Future guerilla prisoners were treated as prisoners of war, and there were no further hangings of prisoners on both sides.
The same thing happened in the U.S. Revolutionary War
It’s unfortunate, but violence or threats of violence settle everything in human conflicts of any significance.
The British called their “bluff”, and the guerillas then hung two British M.P.s that they had captured...'
Do you think the Palestinians should draw the moral?
And more are coming. Indians are now the largest sub-group among Asians in the U.S. as well as the largest legal immigrant group.
Asian Indian: 4.5m
Chinese, ex Taiwanese: 5.1m
Taiwanese: 0.2m
Subtract out non-Hindu Indians, add in ethnic Chinese from Vietnam etc, and Chinese are probably about 6m v 4m Hindu.
Add in Bangla, Paki, and Nepali total of 0.8m gives a 5.3m south asian total.Replies: @Twinkie
The issue isn’t the Black Israelites claiming to be Jewish, but their claiming the actual Jews are frauds.
Jews do not generally have issues with other groups claiming to be “lost tribes” when they do not dispute their authenticity.Replies: @Almost Missouri
So humiliating him, ending his career, and extorting half a million dollars is how authentic Jews respond?
The cause of certain historical patterns is becoming clearer.
I have two words for you: “Sony guts.”
(Note: Tom Hanks probably coined the phrase “Sony guts” as an Israeli consumer electronics store employee on an SNL sketch, “Sabra Price is Right,” with an accent so perfect you could fry falafel on it. Couldn’t find the sketch on YT — imagine that.)
“ Indians are now the largest sub-group among Asians in the U.S.”
Asian Indian: 4.5m
Chinese, ex Taiwanese: 5.1m
Taiwanese: 0.2m
Subtract out non-Hindu Indians, add in ethnic Chinese from Vietnam etc, and Chinese are probably about 6m v 4m Hindu.
Add in Bangla, Paki, and Nepali total of 0.8m gives a 5.3m south asian total.
“Lever” voting machines were a thing by the end of the 19th Century, and from my readings were routinely used to cheat in city elections, like by adding the “right” number of votes in the morning before Official voting started. I once used one in a corrupt state in a municipality where there was no change a Republican would ever win….
That’s obviously not what the Daley human political machine did after they knew how many downstate votes they still needed to overcome, but that morning feature implies it can be done later after there are no more pesky live voters in the room to observe shenanigans.
Geographically, the creation of the US gave us the best possible opportunity to have sustained peace. Two oceans on its flanks, a bottleneck at the south and a wasteland to the north.
But we had to invade and invite, so here we are.
You are leaving out half the story. Ashkenazi Jews (and BTW Israel is only maybe 1/2 Ashkenazi) are Judean in their male line, so they are genetically related. While the religion has changed over time (the destruction of the Temple, which was fundamental to the old religion, left them with no choice), the foundational texts are the same.
Ultimately national claims like this are all tenuous. What is the claim of the British to England or of Americans to America? “Palestinian” identity is also a myth. There was never a Palestinian national identity until Arafat invented it. National existence depends on #1 myths and #2 people willing to fight and die for those myths, for generation after generation. There is no Washington Post Decider who decides whether your national myths are valid or bullshit and if they are bullshit then it’s game over. “Three Pinocchios for the Macedonians” and the Macedonians have to give up and admit that they are really Bulgarian. Your national myths could be as phony as a $3 bill but if people are willing to fight and die for them they take on their own reality. Or they could be totally real and valid and you could still be wiped from the map anyway.
The claim that the Americans have to America is the exact same one the Israelis have to Israel, as long as they are strong enough to hold it, it belongs to them. My family didn't get to America until the 20th century, but I suppose those whose ancestors came here early, cleared the land, faced hostile Indians and broke free from the English Crown then settled the continent have a blood claim to the land. Some of their ancestors have been here for 400 years. When you guys have been in Israel for 400 years, you'll be able to say the same.
As for the British, come on, it's been theirs since before Caesar planted his flag.Replies: @Jack D, @mc23
Bullshit.
Americans started out fighting the Revolutionary War for their rights 'as Englishmen.' By the time the war was over, they were Americans. There was no Greece or Greeks in 1820; there most assuredly is a Greece and Greeks now. Ditto for everyone, actually. Read Peasants into Frenchmen. Think Yemeni Jews were yearning to become Israelis in 1947? Think again.
You're wrong about the Palestinians, but even if you were right, so what? If the Palestinians weren't there then, they are there now; the Jews made them. There is now inarguably a Palestinian people.
When the Ukrainians blow up Russian warships, which are legitimate military targets, the Russians call them “terrorists” today. Calling a soldier “a terrorist” doesn’t make him one if he is targeting military targets during war. You may not like it when your military facilities are targeted but that’s what happens in a war. For the same reason that when you kill an enemy soldier it’s not murder.
The British refused to treat the Jewish freedom fighters as soldiers or hold them as POWs. They treated them as criminals and executed them for their “crimes”. But they expected their own soldiers to be treated as such. The basis of the Geneva Conventions is reciprocity – if you give reciprocity you get it back in return. If you don’t then don’t expect the other side to either. Name calling (“terrorists”) doesn’t change anything.
…and we further acknowledge that after prevailing, against long odds, in the 1948 war, we took the commonsense measure of creating a bit of stability by separating ourselves from the people who had proven themselves unwilling to tolerate our presence here.
Sorry Jack, you haven’t kept up with the recent genetic breakthroughs, there is no evidence of any relationship to the ancient Judeans, it’s more likely that they are related to Romans, or Italians, who converted to the religion. It was more of a hope that there was a relationship than any actual evidence. A “Palestinian” is simply an Arab who lived in what was called Palestine. Some geneticists claim that it is more likely that the Arabs in the region are more closely related to the original Hebrews than anyone else.
The claim that the Americans have to America is the exact same one the Israelis have to Israel, as long as they are strong enough to hold it, it belongs to them. My family didn’t get to America until the 20th century, but I suppose those whose ancestors came here early, cleared the land, faced hostile Indians and broke free from the English Crown then settled the continent have a blood claim to the land. Some of their ancestors have been here for 400 years. When you guys have been in Israel for 400 years, you’ll be able to say the same.
As for the British, come on, it’s been theirs since before Caesar planted his flag.
https://twitter.com/ArainGang/status/1585039804441722880?s=20&t=MMVM44k4SIIqZt3h1kQJkg
The claim that the Americans have to America is the exact same one the Israelis have to Israel, as long as they are strong enough to hold it, it belongs to them. My family didn't get to America until the 20th century, but I suppose those whose ancestors came here early, cleared the land, faced hostile Indians and broke free from the English Crown then settled the continent have a blood claim to the land. Some of their ancestors have been here for 400 years. When you guys have been in Israel for 400 years, you'll be able to say the same.
As for the British, come on, it's been theirs since before Caesar planted his flag.Replies: @Jack D, @mc23
Except for the ones that came from Saxony and Normandy, etc. If it is theirs why are they speaking someone else’s language, i.e. Angle-ish?
Are you concerned with over 1,000,000 Frenchmen thrown out of Algeria by Muslims?
How about Greek Cypriots thrown out of Cypress? Refugees from India's partition? "Asians" from Uganda? Rohinga Muslims and Karens in Burma? Uighurs in China? Tibetans? Sudeten Germans?
Short answer: some countries take in their co-religionist or co-ethnics or co-racials, and some countries and cultures don't.
Israel does, the Muslims don't.
600,000 Jews were thrown out of Arab Muslim Lands where they had been residing for centuries, from way before the founding of Islam- heck, before Muhammad molested his first 9 year old. Israel took them in. The Muslims wanted nothing to do with their own kind- not that I can blame them.
I'm sure that the butchery that went on in Lebanon must have also been the fault of the Jews.Replies: @Thea, @Colin Wright
The destruction of the Christian community of Iraq took place on the watch of the US military.
Funny you should mention that.
https://jewamongyou.com/2011/01/19/the-ashkenazi-revolution/
This touches on a lot of things -- as I write this, I keep thinking of more. However, I'll single out the following:
1. Jews are not one people. This is a paradigm we've been sold -- but it's not so. An Ashkenazi of German extraction has no more in common with a Yemeni Jew than a Swedish Christian is a twin of a Filipino Christian.
2. The whole paradigm of Israel is essentially Kosher Nazism. This rather late appeal to notions of racial purity and superiority is just another example of the ways in which this is so.
3. The Ashkenazi are different from other Jews -- and much less able to get along with their hosts. Compare and contrast the way the Sephardim in Colonial America and the Early United States managed to fit in without raising anyone's hackles to what's going on now. One could also contrast the history of Jews in Europe to that of Jews in the Muslim world. Differences between Christianity ana Islam could be held to account for that -- but it's also worth pointing out that it was Ashkenazim who got themselves expelled from England and France, massacred in the Ukraine, hated in Poland, and exterminated by the Nazis. Much less of that -- if any of it -- happened to the Sephardim and Mizrahi in the Muslim world. Even in the case of Spain and Portugal -- which eventually expelled the Sephardim -- the process was much slower and less bloody than it was further north. Spain didn't force the Jews to leave or convert until 1492; earlier, there was even a Christian king who declared Spain 'the kingdom of the three religions.' Hard to imagine that in any of the lands with Ashkenazim for their Jews.
But we had to invade and invite, so here we are.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
I agree that we got the best continent on Earth. But we got started downhill a bit earlier than “invade and invite” when we imported 400,00 slaves, now ~40 million, many of whose descendants are a significant problem. There is no solution in sight even after 50+ years and tri$$ions of dollars.
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Funny thing: searching for "God gave us your land" brought up a whole lot of "Christian" Zionist sites.Replies: @NOTA
Do the Mormons have a similar belief w.r.t. Utah being given to them by God?
‘…“Palestinian” identity is also a myth. There was never a Palestinian national identity until Arafat invented it. National existence depends on #1 myths and #2 people willing to fight and die for those myths, for generation after generation…’
Bullshit.
Americans started out fighting the Revolutionary War for their rights ‘as Englishmen.’ By the time the war was over, they were Americans. There was no Greece or Greeks in 1820; there most assuredly is a Greece and Greeks now. Ditto for everyone, actually. Read Peasants into Frenchmen. Think Yemeni Jews were yearning to become Israelis in 1947? Think again.
You’re wrong about the Palestinians, but even if you were right, so what? If the Palestinians weren’t there then, they are there now; the Jews made them. There is now inarguably a Palestinian people.
Asian Indian: 4.5m
Chinese, ex Taiwanese: 5.1m
Taiwanese: 0.2m
Subtract out non-Hindu Indians, add in ethnic Chinese from Vietnam etc, and Chinese are probably about 6m v 4m Hindu.
Add in Bangla, Paki, and Nepali total of 0.8m gives a 5.3m south asian total.Replies: @Twinkie
The Indian population just exceeded the Chinese population in America this year. I can’t find it right now, but someone posted the latest numbers on Unz recently.
Be that as it may, even if somehow the Chinese in America (by adding all the possible ethnic Chinese from outside China) outnumber the Indians, they won’t for long, as Indian immigration is much larger than the Chinese these days (in 2021, the ratio was 2x).
Genetic studies of Britain have shown the population to be overwhelmingly Celtic. The invading Saxon, Scandinavian, Norman, etc. were absorbed into the existing population, which often happens with invading forces. Mongolians disappeared into the Chinese culture they invaded, Muslims and Jewish invaders were either absorbed through conversion, or forced to leave Spain in the late 15th, early 16th century. In Spain’s American colonies there was a lot of mixing with the local Indian tribes and the Indios were eventually, for the most part, absorbed into the Spanish conquerors culture.
In the US there was some mixing with local Indians but the Anglo conquerors managed to remain European and not get absorbed into the original inhabitants. That’s what the Israelis are trying to do. Intermarriage is rare between the Europeans and native Arabs, but is fairly common between Ashkenazi (European) and Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews, from what I’ve been told. The Israeli experiment is still in its infancy, most Jews refuse to move there, so there’s still an open question as to whether it will last. For now, they’re stronger than their enemies, so it belongs to them. Remember, though, that many different nations have ruled Jerusalem and it’s a real question whether God will allow a nation that promotes buggery, theft and blasphemy to stay in power. We’ll see.
‘One of the worst examples of the anti-Mizrahi discrimination involves The Ashkenazi Revolution published in 1964 by writer Kalman Katzenelson in which the author argues that the Mizrahim suffer from irreversible genetic inferiority that endangers the superiority of the Ashkenazi-Zionist state. He called for the establishment of an apartheid regime…’
This touches on a lot of things — as I write this, I keep thinking of more. However, I’ll single out the following:
1. Jews are not one people. This is a paradigm we’ve been sold — but it’s not so. An Ashkenazi of German extraction has no more in common with a Yemeni Jew than a Swedish Christian is a twin of a Filipino Christian.
2. The whole paradigm of Israel is essentially Kosher Nazism. This rather late appeal to notions of racial purity and superiority is just another example of the ways in which this is so.
3. The Ashkenazi are different from other Jews — and much less able to get along with their hosts. Compare and contrast the way the Sephardim in Colonial America and the Early United States managed to fit in without raising anyone’s hackles to what’s going on now. One could also contrast the history of Jews in Europe to that of Jews in the Muslim world. Differences between Christianity ana Islam could be held to account for that — but it’s also worth pointing out that it was Ashkenazim who got themselves expelled from England and France, massacred in the Ukraine, hated in Poland, and exterminated by the Nazis. Much less of that — if any of it — happened to the Sephardim and Mizrahi in the Muslim world. Even in the case of Spain and Portugal — which eventually expelled the Sephardim — the process was much slower and less bloody than it was further north. Spain didn’t force the Jews to leave or convert until 1492; earlier, there was even a Christian king who declared Spain ‘the kingdom of the three religions.’ Hard to imagine that in any of the lands with Ashkenazim for their Jews.
‘The Indian population just exceeded the Chinese population in America this year. I can’t find it right now, but someone posted the latest numbers on Unz recently.’
More relevantly, it’s also exceeded or is about exceed the Jewish population.
…and you’ll note the Indians are moving in on exactly the territory the Jews have dominated up until now. I wonder if they’ll be able to continue to agree on how to manipulate and exploit the rest of us — or will they start fighting over the spoils?
Not a slam but I suspect due to numbers that Jews will be the Parsees of the 21st century, a highly successful and respected niche ethnic group.
The claim that the Americans have to America is the exact same one the Israelis have to Israel, as long as they are strong enough to hold it, it belongs to them. My family didn't get to America until the 20th century, but I suppose those whose ancestors came here early, cleared the land, faced hostile Indians and broke free from the English Crown then settled the continent have a blood claim to the land. Some of their ancestors have been here for 400 years. When you guys have been in Israel for 400 years, you'll be able to say the same.
As for the British, come on, it's been theirs since before Caesar planted his flag.Replies: @Jack D, @mc23
If and I say if, this chart is true , the Palestinians are obviously originally the descendants of Jews who converted to Christianity or Islam. Interestingly enough if H.G. Wells was correct in that most Jews were outside of Judea, Phoenician coverts in general there’s only one reason for their disappearance and that’s mass conversion. ( After the Romans retaliated in the Kitos War.)
The British were treating the guerilla fighters as terrorists and ignoring the rules of warfare. The guerillas had warned the British that if they hanged their prisoners, they would retaliate in kind.
The British called their "bluff", and the guerillas then hung two British M.P.s that they had captured.
Future guerilla prisoners were treated as prisoners of war, and there were no further hangings of prisoners on both sides.
The same thing happened in the U.S. Revolutionary War
It's unfortunate, but violence or threats of violence settle everything in human conflicts of any significance.Replies: @Colin Wright
‘…The British were treating the guerilla fighters as terrorists and ignoring the rules of warfare. The guerillas had warned the British that if they hanged their prisoners, they would retaliate in kind.
The British called their “bluff”, and the guerillas then hung two British M.P.s that they had captured…’
Do you think the Palestinians should draw the moral?
Are you concerned with over 1,000,000 Frenchmen thrown out of Algeria by Muslims?
How about Greek Cypriots thrown out of Cypress? Refugees from India's partition? "Asians" from Uganda? Rohinga Muslims and Karens in Burma? Uighurs in China? Tibetans? Sudeten Germans?
Short answer: some countries take in their co-religionist or co-ethnics or co-racials, and some countries and cultures don't.
Israel does, the Muslims don't.
600,000 Jews were thrown out of Arab Muslim Lands where they had been residing for centuries, from way before the founding of Islam- heck, before Muhammad molested his first 9 year old. Israel took them in. The Muslims wanted nothing to do with their own kind- not that I can blame them.
I'm sure that the butchery that went on in Lebanon must have also been the fault of the Jews.Replies: @Thea, @Colin Wright
‘…Short answer: some countries take in their co-religionist or co-ethnics or co-racials, and some countries and cultures don’t.
Israel does, the Muslims don’t…’
Think how much better off the United States would be if we’d anticipated the Israeli example. Come one, come all…Christians only, of course.
Additionally, with interest rates rising, it's drying up tech in the US. So the make-believe tech in Israel is definitely toast. Israel will likely coast on US Boomer fumes and handouts, which will get them to 2030. Beyond that, there will be a fundamental realignment. Potentially, pragmatic Israelis can put up with Russia or China, but it won't be the US or Europe.Replies: @Anonynoose, @That Would Be Telling, @Pixo, @AnotherDad, @Lockean Proviso
Israel would gladly agree that China has a historic right to Taiwan just as Israel has a historic right to Palestine. After using the US for decades to fund them and fight wars in pursuit of their regional hegemony, they would cast us aside, dumbed down, riven by racial and religious division, infertile, and bankrupt. Of course, they will also assert that America and Europe belong to anyone but Europeans.
You (((hasbara))) still haven’t come up with a remotely exculpable excuse for Israel’s ACT OF WAR (“Liberty incident”) against the US.
In the words of the American crew members who survived the massacre:
“On June 8, 1967, US Navy intelligence ship USS Liberty was suddenly and brutally attacked on the high seas in international waters by the air and naval forces of Israel. The Israeli forces attacked with full knowledge that this was an American ship and lied about it. Survivors have been forbidden for 40 years to tell their story under oath to the American public. The USS Liberty Memorial web site tells their story and is dedicated to the memory of the 34 brave men who died….” — Continued:
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