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From Politico:

White House divided on Trump addressing racial tensions
The infighting over a formal speech reflects the bigger question of how to soothe a country also grappling with a health and economic crisis.

By NANCY COOK

05/31/2020 07:44 PM EDT

As protests continue to flare across the country, President Donald Trump and his top aides cannot settle on the next steps the White House should take to ease tensions after the latest death of an African American man detained by a white police officer.

White House chief of staff Mark Meadows has been pushing for the president to deliver a formal address to the nation to emphasize his support for law and order and police officers, a familiar trope for the Republican Party and one that typically plays well with its base.

Trump’s senior adviser and son-in-law, Jared Kushner, along with several other top aides, argued against such a move, fearing the tone could alienate key voters ahead of the November election, including African Americans whose support the administration has been trying to court.

 
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  1. What could Trump possibly do to overrule Kushner? As the president of the USA, he is totally powerless after all.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Kent Nationalist

    Avoid contact with Ivanka until she stops crying?

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

  2. Personally I think he should tweet out something to the effect of, “I have offered Governor X of blue state X military assistance in restoring order. Governor X has declined the offer, but in the future they are welcome to request federal assistance.”

    No blue state governor is going to take him up on it, it would be political suicide. But they are also on the verge of being unable to restore order at this point. So each day the lawlessness continues it gets blamed on them for not accepting help. If they do finally accept help they look even worse.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @SimpleSong

    A problem with Trump’s bunker approach is that power depends on people believing that you have power, and if you don’t exercise it when it’s clearly called for, people start questioning how powerful you actually are.

    Had Trump invoked the Insurrection Act and ordered federal troops to Minneapolis on Friday, there would have been a 100% chance of his orders being with. Maybe it’s 99% now, I don’t know. But the longer Trump looks weak, the weaker he becomes.

    , @Anonymous
    @SimpleSong

    Is it really political suicide to accept federal intervention? They do it all the time for fires, floods, hurricanes, etc.

    Granted, there is a balance to strike between looking lazy/helpless and looking foolhardy/reckless. The Katrina politicians notably punted on that needle-threading, immediately declaring themselves incompetent

    Replies: @Redman, @Alan Mercer

    , @Redman
    @SimpleSong

    The way the MSM played the totalitarianism by blue state governors during Covid (i.e. absolving them completely), why should we expect them to do otherwise during a national riot/race war?

    No matter what Trump does the luggenpresse will hit him hard. I don't see the blue state governors getting much criticism at all. Even while the press absurd conspiracy theories about white supremacists stoking the riots.

    Black culture despises pussies. Even the liberal enthnographers of the 60s and 70s observed that cultural aspect. If Trump ever had any hope of getting more black votes, it won't be by showing restraint during a metastacizing riot (Kushner should never be listened to about anything). At this point, Trump needs to take the reins and show some alpha force.

  3. One of these days, I hope somebody gives us a convincing account of what the hold is Jared has on Trump. Sublimated lech for Ivanka Trump can’t admit? Jared’s his Mossad handler? Just a feeble elder being taken advantage of by a hustling in-law?

    If Trump doesn’t come up with some sort of hardline response this week, I think we’ll be able to mark May 31st as the effective end of his Presidency. On the heels of coronavirus, the image of rioters outside the White House while he turns off the lights and hides in a bunker will be too indelible an image of weakness and ineffectuality to escape. No amount of trying to change the subject or shifting the blame to anybody else will live that down.

    • Replies: @Moral Stone
    @Thomas

    Regarding Kushner, it’s worth considering the possibility that the majority of what you read in the media is simply untrue. They love these “power behind the throne” stories when Republicans are in office since it delegitimizes them. “Trump isn’t in charge (Kushner/Bannon/etc) is calling the shots.” If Kushner had a heart attack tomorrow by next week there’ll be stories about some other lackey secretly being the brains of the operation.

    Regarding the riot response you’re spot on. Trump needs to respond strongly, ASAP.

    Replies: @HEL, @Guy De Champlagne, @Hypnotoad666

    , @Army of the Potomac
    @Thomas

    Trump has always been way too familiar and physical with Ivanka, very peculiar, making remarks about her boobs, ass, height, series of photographs of her sitting on his lap, etc etc. Not a normal father in any way. So I think the default position is that Trump is actually the father of her children. Not Kushner. And Daddy continues to boff her regular , pretty sure. Kushner knows about it, sure, but he was brought in as a cover, got a lot of money to marry her, continues to get a ton of money, in fact anything he wants including the right to tell Donald Trump what to do. You can bet his buddies back in Israel know all about it too.

    , @Anon
    @Thomas

    Concern troll.

    This forum doesn't take well to attempts to sneak in liberal narrative within the thin wrapper of concern trolling.

  4. Steve, Politico has been producing the same kind of “sources say” fake stories that the Times produces. It’s their standard ploy…MsNBC and CNN will be quoting this fake story all day today.

    • Thanks: Coemgen, YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @anonymous
    @e

    Seriously. A Politico story about the Trump admin based on an anonymous source?

    For someone who like to "notice things" why has Steve not noticed that these stories are fake 100% of the time?

  5. Who are politico’s sources for these types of articles?

    • Agree: Coemgen, botazefa
    • Replies: @anon
    @wren

    Mike Pence and Kellyanne Conway.

  6. Trump could easily draw on all the examples of black folks who have lost their businesses and neighborhoods to rioting antifa and make a strong case that anti law and order leftists have just exploited them for their own reasons.

    There is plenty of evidence out there.

    I expect him to do this.

    • Agree: danand
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @wren


    Trump could easily draw on all the examples of black folks who have lost their businesses and neighborhoods to rioting antifa
     
    Apparently the Blacks figured this out some time ago, and it's what the Black opinion leaders are saying. I think it would succeed for the same reason that Trump's existing base likes his tweets -- they express what everybody knows but are too afraid of the US Establishment to say.

    There are still the remnants of a Black middle class, not yet destroyed by Civil Rights, making their living by their actions rather than as patronage employees. Cassius Clay (later Muhammad Ali) once said "Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat", recognizing that living in the US was then better than living in Africa. It still is, and the US Blacks know that, on some level. Pointing that the riots destroy their lives and their aspirations to serve the goals of Antifa should help all concerned except Antifa and the US Establishment that made Antifa.

    Replies: @Amerimutt Golems, @thomasblair

  7. Kushner is the ultimate soyboy.

  8. Jared: Is there anything he can’t f***up?

  9. Not a bad strategy, TBH.

    Anything Trump says will be spun by the media as an incitement for more violence. By staying silent, he keeps leadership in the hands of each city mayor (and the state governors). Now, the Dems should be stepping up and proving their leadership skills, but they don’t want to risk owning this mess and alienating more voters. We also aren’t hearing that “we need Trump’s leadership during this crisis!” either—when they do, then Trump can easily claim victory with a formal address.

    Either way, the silence from Democratic leaders is quite telling. Right now is Biden’s time to shine, for Pelosi or AOC to jump in and try to take control of the leadership narrative. None of them are doing that, though.

    • Agree: Mr Mox
    • Replies: @VinnyVette
    @al-Gharaniq

    So Twitter can deep six it? The days of Trump trolling the left and MSM are over!

    , @VinnyVette
    @al-Gharaniq

    A president cannot sit by silently as the country burns down. There's been enough failed Trump 3D chess strategy already. Trump's a checker player at best, Chess is out of his league! Same as sitting back and letting the tyrannical democrat governor's continue to refuse to end the lockdowns, and open their states economies, put an end to religious gatherings etc... While he tweets "free this state or that state" hoping militia men will do the dirty work for him. All his tweets do is troll the left, mind fuck his base! Where'd that HB1 visa tweet lead to? He's left his constituency high and dry on everything!

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Redman
    @al-Gharaniq

    Lack of a response to the violence we're seeing will only cause it to increase. If there is any deterrent to looting (i.e. the illegal violation of property by force) it is a response of greater force.

    Democratic state and local governments have shown they are not up to the task. Their power is based too much on the tenuous coalition of the fringes that Steve has presciently described for years.

    If Trump truly wants the right kind of blacks (and independents) to vote for him, he should appeal to them with law and order the way Guiliani did in 1993. This should be right in his wheelhouse.

    I would love to hear what Bloomberg is thinking about the lawlessness right now. If interviewed, would he sound like Mayor Bloomberg (R) or Presidential Candidate Bloomberg (D)?

    , @Kolya Krassotkin
    @al-Gharaniq

    "Right now is Biden's time to shine..."
    🤣

    Dude, you slay me. Biden grows visibly more senile with every passing day, and soon he won't even remember what planet he's on. His greatest wants now are some warm milk in a sippy cup and a fresh nappy. If Biden could make a semi-coherent statement that could demonstrate leadership, don't you think his handlers would have had him before the cameras days ago?

  10. @SimpleSong
    Personally I think he should tweet out something to the effect of, "I have offered Governor X of blue state X military assistance in restoring order. Governor X has declined the offer, but in the future they are welcome to request federal assistance."

    No blue state governor is going to take him up on it, it would be political suicide. But they are also on the verge of being unable to restore order at this point. So each day the lawlessness continues it gets blamed on them for not accepting help. If they do finally accept help they look even worse.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anonymous, @Redman

    A problem with Trump’s bunker approach is that power depends on people believing that you have power, and if you don’t exercise it when it’s clearly called for, people start questioning how powerful you actually are.

    Had Trump invoked the Insurrection Act and ordered federal troops to Minneapolis on Friday, there would have been a 100% chance of his orders being with. Maybe it’s 99% now, I don’t know. But the longer Trump looks weak, the weaker he becomes.

    • Agree: Old Prude, Redman, TomSchmidt
  11. Let’s stop pretending that Trump is the President.

    • Agree: Black-hole creator
    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @ATBOTL

    Or any other nominal president for that matter.

  12. Speaking of the Kushners, what will happen to Ivanka if her father loses the election? Will she have to go into exile and raise dragons or something?

    • Replies: @Anon
    @advancedatheist

    Who cares about that stupid parasitic camera hog Ivanka? She's irrelevant.

  13. https://twitter.com/annemarierozen/status/1267012726808883206

    The Mayor of Minneapolis is a Jew.

    George Soros, who is the major funder of Anti-Fa, is also Jewish.

    Anti-Fa are destroying Churches.

    However, they have a very different attitude towards Synagogues.

    TLDR:

    -Anti-Fa is a Jewish milita.
    -Anti-Fa is being funded by Jewish Synagogues and a Jewish financier.
    -Minneapolis mayor is Jewish.
    -Anti-Fa destroys Churches, but respects Synagogues.

    Based on the above, I would conclude that (((Jared Kushner))) has the best interest of his “fellow Whites” in mind when he gives advice to Trump.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @JohnnyWalker123


    George Soros, who is the major funder of Anti-Fa, ............
     
    I've often seen this asserted. Is there any evidence of it? Even of the "he donates to this group, which donates to this group, which supports antifa" variety?
  14. Anonymous[417] • Disclaimer says:
    @wren
    Trump could easily draw on all the examples of black folks who have lost their businesses and neighborhoods to rioting antifa and make a strong case that anti law and order leftists have just exploited them for their own reasons.

    There is plenty of evidence out there.

    I expect him to do this.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Trump could easily draw on all the examples of black folks who have lost their businesses and neighborhoods to rioting antifa

    Apparently the Blacks figured this out some time ago, and it’s what the Black opinion leaders are saying. I think it would succeed for the same reason that Trump’s existing base likes his tweets — they express what everybody knows but are too afraid of the US Establishment to say.

    There are still the remnants of a Black middle class, not yet destroyed by Civil Rights, making their living by their actions rather than as patronage employees. Cassius Clay (later Muhammad Ali) once said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat”, recognizing that living in the US was then better than living in Africa. It still is, and the US Blacks know that, on some level. Pointing that the riots destroy their lives and their aspirations to serve the goals of Antifa should help all concerned except Antifa and the US Establishment that made Antifa.

    • Replies: @Amerimutt Golems
    @Anonymous



    There are still the remnants of a Black middle class, not yet destroyed by Civil Rights, making their living by their actions rather than as patronage employees. Cassius Clay (later Muhammad Ali) once said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat”, recognizing that living in the US was then better than living in Africa. It still is, and the US Blacks know that, on some level. Pointing that the riots destroy their lives and their aspirations to serve the goals of Antifa should help all concerned except Antifa and the US Establishment that made Antifa.

     

    Clay/Ali lived in Zaire (the Congo) prior to the "Rumble in the Jungle"match. He no doubt saw the poverty and squalor.

    The median black household income of $41k (2018) is a fortune, even if you adjust for the cost of living, in most third world countries where a washing machine is a luxury good.
    , @thomasblair
    @Anonymous

    Anyone that needs to be told how good they had it doesn't care if they lose it.

  15. @Kent Nationalist
    What could Trump possibly do to overrule Kushner? As the president of the USA, he is totally powerless after all.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    Avoid contact with Ivanka until she stops crying?

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @nebulafox

    Ivanka isn't that nice.


    https://twitter.com/BazziNYU/status/996244460253138944

    https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/996457686739939328

    https://twitter.com/eugenegu/status/996045756820697088


    https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/ivanka-trump-opens-converting-orthodox-judaism/story?id=29244637


    Ivanka Trump Opens Up About Converting to Orthodox Judaism

     

    She is cunning though. You gotta give that much to her.
  16. If he was only going to give a law-and-order speech without any subsequent action, that wouldn’t make anybody happy.

    There are people here who think Trump’s job is to be their white tribal chieftain and rack up body counts. I think that’s the wrong frame. What you’re seeing is the Great Awokening unleashed on the real world in a big way for the first time. I think America needs to see this. It’s a worldview whose time has come and it must be allowed to fail. Saying “black people bad” and sending in the troops on day one might have made you feel good, but it would have saved wokeness from itself.

    • Disagree: VinnyVette
  17. @nebulafox
    @Kent Nationalist

    Avoid contact with Ivanka until she stops crying?

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    Ivanka isn’t that nice.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/ivanka-trump-opens-converting-orthodox-judaism/story?id=29244637

    Ivanka Trump Opens Up About Converting to Orthodox Judaism

    She is cunning though. You gotta give that much to her.

  18. HaRVaRd EdUcAtEd

  19. My father once observed that most Jews are very smart but a stuipid Jew is very stupid. Jared Kushner is a perfect illustration. His marriage to Ivanka Trump demonstrates the power of homogamy. Trump’s obvious affection for his children would be touching were it not so dangerously misplaced.

    • Replies: @Rob (London)
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    His affection for Ivanka seems to be mostly unhealthy.

  20. Kushner is the Jack Kemp in the Trump White House.

    Negroes are congenitally incapable of voting GOP as government subsidy is the basis of their existence.

  21. Anonymous[413] • Disclaimer says:

    Vote Bannon, get Kushner.

  22. What would be the use of a speech, or 10 more tough-sounding tweets? Trump is weak and powerless and the terrorists know it. They are mocking him by their continuing mayhem. He could have done a serious crackdown but didn’t.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    @Mike_from_SGV

    Yep. Everyone knows to call his bluff.twitter did. China did. Why wouldn't rioters do so as well?

  23. Imagine being so weak to let your daughter’s husband tell you what to do? How in the world did Trump build an empire? Or is he just the front man ?

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Old and Grumpy

    "How in the world did Trump build an empire? Or is he just the front man ?"

    Big difference between being a successful NY developer and being a successful President. But when he was a developer, he didn't have the entire establishment against him.

    , @MBlanc46
    @Old and Grumpy

    Trump is in far, far over his head. He takes advice from people he knows.

  24. @Anonymous
    @wren


    Trump could easily draw on all the examples of black folks who have lost their businesses and neighborhoods to rioting antifa
     
    Apparently the Blacks figured this out some time ago, and it's what the Black opinion leaders are saying. I think it would succeed for the same reason that Trump's existing base likes his tweets -- they express what everybody knows but are too afraid of the US Establishment to say.

    There are still the remnants of a Black middle class, not yet destroyed by Civil Rights, making their living by their actions rather than as patronage employees. Cassius Clay (later Muhammad Ali) once said "Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat", recognizing that living in the US was then better than living in Africa. It still is, and the US Blacks know that, on some level. Pointing that the riots destroy their lives and their aspirations to serve the goals of Antifa should help all concerned except Antifa and the US Establishment that made Antifa.

    Replies: @Amerimutt Golems, @thomasblair

    There are still the remnants of a Black middle class, not yet destroyed by Civil Rights, making their living by their actions rather than as patronage employees. Cassius Clay (later Muhammad Ali) once said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat”, recognizing that living in the US was then better than living in Africa. It still is, and the US Blacks know that, on some level. Pointing that the riots destroy their lives and their aspirations to serve the goals of Antifa should help all concerned except Antifa and the US Establishment that made Antifa.

    Clay/Ali lived in Zaire (the Congo) prior to the “Rumble in the Jungle”match. He no doubt saw the poverty and squalor.

    The median black household income of $41k (2018) is a fortune, even if you adjust for the cost of living, in most third world countries where a washing machine is a luxury good.

  25. Anonymous[128] • Disclaimer says:
    @SimpleSong
    Personally I think he should tweet out something to the effect of, "I have offered Governor X of blue state X military assistance in restoring order. Governor X has declined the offer, but in the future they are welcome to request federal assistance."

    No blue state governor is going to take him up on it, it would be political suicide. But they are also on the verge of being unable to restore order at this point. So each day the lawlessness continues it gets blamed on them for not accepting help. If they do finally accept help they look even worse.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anonymous, @Redman

    Is it really political suicide to accept federal intervention? They do it all the time for fires, floods, hurricanes, etc.

    Granted, there is a balance to strike between looking lazy/helpless and looking foolhardy/reckless. The Katrina politicians notably punted on that needle-threading, immediately declaring themselves incompetent

    • Replies: @Redman
    @Anonymous

    Federal support comes in 2 ways: money or force. My take on Katrina is that there was plenty of money to go around, but no force to stop the rioting in NOLA.

    The lawlessness of young people (usually but not always blacks) during a disaster is a bigger social threat than the actual hurricane, flood, etc.

    Trump has no excuse not to order force under the current circumstances. I have to think this will be his next step very soon.

    , @Alan Mercer
    @Anonymous

    I don't disagree with your point, but there's an important difference here. Politicians don't publicly sympathize with the fire/hurricane to try to court its vote.

  26. So, in the new Feudal order, is it Jared or Ivanka who inherits the throne?

  27. @ATBOTL
    Let's stop pretending that Trump is the President.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Or any other nominal president for that matter.

  28. @wren
    Who are politico's sources for these types of articles?

    Replies: @anon

    Mike Pence and Kellyanne Conway.

  29. It’s long past the time to stop believing the “Jarrod kept Trump from doing X” myth. Trump is not who he pretended to be in 2015-16. He had an election strategy, and it worked, and then he ran away from it. Jarrod is just his beard. Taking Trump and his tweets seriously could get a person killed or put in gaol for life.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @Interested Bystander

    Steve Bannon had an election strategy.

  30. Anonymous[334] • Disclaimer says:

    Funny how easily most of you swallow the framing of a clearly hostile article. Must be the word ‘Kushner’ triggering midwits like ‘JohnnyWalker’ into his beloved wall-o-tweets joo posts.

    You WANT the blue cities to keep burning. You WANT the looting to spread into the suburbs. Goodwhites need to be literally punched and have a fire lit up under their ass before you come save them, otherwise they won’t have learned a damn thing.

    Did you think they were going to flip to Trump previously? At least now the riots have introduced chaos into the system and interesting things can happen. Trump needs to layout the narrative groundwork for antifa anyways before sending in the hitters, most normies still don’t know what an antifa is. Locals need to see their own liberal leadership continue to fail at suppression.

    Stop being an enabler for Goodwhites or being baited into early action because some journalist did the equivalent of saying you have a small dick. They were going to do that anyways…

    Keep accepting enemy framing and you slowly turn into a retarded blackpiller like ‘Whiskey’

    • Agree: Alden
  31. @Old and Grumpy
    Imagine being so weak to let your daughter's husband tell you what to do? How in the world did Trump build an empire? Or is he just the front man ?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @MBlanc46

    “How in the world did Trump build an empire? Or is he just the front man ?”

    Big difference between being a successful NY developer and being a successful President. But when he was a developer, he didn’t have the entire establishment against him.

  32. @al-Gharaniq
    Not a bad strategy, TBH.

    Anything Trump says will be spun by the media as an incitement for more violence. By staying silent, he keeps leadership in the hands of each city mayor (and the state governors). Now, the Dems should be stepping up and proving their leadership skills, but they don't want to risk owning this mess and alienating more voters. We also aren't hearing that "we need Trump's leadership during this crisis!" either—when they do, then Trump can easily claim victory with a formal address.

    Either way, the silence from Democratic leaders is quite telling. Right now is Biden's time to shine, for Pelosi or AOC to jump in and try to take control of the leadership narrative. None of them are doing that, though.

    Replies: @VinnyVette, @VinnyVette, @Redman, @Kolya Krassotkin

    So Twitter can deep six it? The days of Trump trolling the left and MSM are over!

  33. @al-Gharaniq
    Not a bad strategy, TBH.

    Anything Trump says will be spun by the media as an incitement for more violence. By staying silent, he keeps leadership in the hands of each city mayor (and the state governors). Now, the Dems should be stepping up and proving their leadership skills, but they don't want to risk owning this mess and alienating more voters. We also aren't hearing that "we need Trump's leadership during this crisis!" either—when they do, then Trump can easily claim victory with a formal address.

    Either way, the silence from Democratic leaders is quite telling. Right now is Biden's time to shine, for Pelosi or AOC to jump in and try to take control of the leadership narrative. None of them are doing that, though.

    Replies: @VinnyVette, @VinnyVette, @Redman, @Kolya Krassotkin

    A president cannot sit by silently as the country burns down. There’s been enough failed Trump 3D chess strategy already. Trump’s a checker player at best, Chess is out of his league! Same as sitting back and letting the tyrannical democrat governor’s continue to refuse to end the lockdowns, and open their states economies, put an end to religious gatherings etc… While he tweets “free this state or that state” hoping militia men will do the dirty work for him. All his tweets do is troll the left, mind fuck his base! Where’d that HB1 visa tweet lead to? He’s left his constituency high and dry on everything!

    • Replies: @Anon
    @VinnyVette

    "A president cannot sit by silently as the country burns down."

    You're quite right. The problem is we're engaged in a cold Civil War. Strategy and tactics have to be different during this sort of thing.

    Ultimately, we need to peel off as many people from the other side as possible and make them join us. That's the only way we can win. Ramming the violence of the left's noxious black pets down their throats is a good idea.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

  34. @Thomas
    One of these days, I hope somebody gives us a convincing account of what the hold is Jared has on Trump. Sublimated lech for Ivanka Trump can't admit? Jared's his Mossad handler? Just a feeble elder being taken advantage of by a hustling in-law?

    If Trump doesn't come up with some sort of hardline response this week, I think we'll be able to mark May 31st as the effective end of his Presidency. On the heels of coronavirus, the image of rioters outside the White House while he turns off the lights and hides in a bunker will be too indelible an image of weakness and ineffectuality to escape. No amount of trying to change the subject or shifting the blame to anybody else will live that down.

    Replies: @Moral Stone, @Army of the Potomac, @Anon

    Regarding Kushner, it’s worth considering the possibility that the majority of what you read in the media is simply untrue. They love these “power behind the throne” stories when Republicans are in office since it delegitimizes them. “Trump isn’t in charge (Kushner/Bannon/etc) is calling the shots.” If Kushner had a heart attack tomorrow by next week there’ll be stories about some other lackey secretly being the brains of the operation.

    Regarding the riot response you’re spot on. Trump needs to respond strongly, ASAP.

    • Replies: @HEL
    @Moral Stone


    Regarding Kushner, it’s worth considering the possibility that the majority of what you read in the media is simply untrue.
     
    The Kushner obsession is tiresome. You tell them to be skeptical of media claims. Reasonable enough. In this corner of the right though many people simply deem any and every bad policy that Trump puts forward as being the result of Kushner's machinations regardless of whether or not anyone with knowledge has claimed, much less presented evidence, that he had anything to do with it. I do believe the First Step act was kinda his baby, but I haven't seen much evidence he's important overall. Positing he is a central figure is basically a microcosm of the anti-semitic worldview--Jewish infiltrator bringing it down from the inside. The anti-semitic worldview works pretty well when dealing with the world at large--Jews really do invent and advocate for a massively disproportionate number of the very bad ideas destroying our society. In this instance though the bad ideas Trump buys into are mostly boilerplate normie-Republican bullshit that the bulk of his appointees and staff already believe regardless. There's no need to posit a sinister inner circle saboteur whispering these ideas in Trump's ear, there's innumerable sources for these bad ideas, including Trump himself.
    , @Guy De Champlagne
    @Moral Stone

    If Kushner had a heart attack tomorrow by next week there’ll be stories about some other lackey secretly being the brains of the operation.

    That's because there would be someone else behind the throne at that point (or the real power behind the throne was never Kushner). I'm not defending the specific accuracy of the media, but as far as I can tell Trump isn't interested in governing or doing anything besides tweeting so there has to be a power behind him.


    If I'm wrong and Trump has any interest in actual governance and isn't consumed by blustering on twitter, than how could he possibly tweet about how horrible and weak governors and mayors are when his literal front yard is literally on fire and he's hiding in a literal bunker behind a literal personal security force? All when he has incontrovertible statutory authority to use the military to restore order? What other explanation is there?

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Moral Stone


    They love these “power behind the throne” stories when Republicans are in office . . .
     
    Good point. Remember when Karl Rove was "Bush's Brain" and Cheney was really the stealth president. A really smart president (and I am not saying Trump is doing this), can exploit the "power behind the throne" motif to pretend he's above the fray while shifting the blame for unpopular decisions to his advisors. Eisenhower was good at doing that.
  35. @SimpleSong
    Personally I think he should tweet out something to the effect of, "I have offered Governor X of blue state X military assistance in restoring order. Governor X has declined the offer, but in the future they are welcome to request federal assistance."

    No blue state governor is going to take him up on it, it would be political suicide. But they are also on the verge of being unable to restore order at this point. So each day the lawlessness continues it gets blamed on them for not accepting help. If they do finally accept help they look even worse.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anonymous, @Redman

    The way the MSM played the totalitarianism by blue state governors during Covid (i.e. absolving them completely), why should we expect them to do otherwise during a national riot/race war?

    No matter what Trump does the luggenpresse will hit him hard. I don’t see the blue state governors getting much criticism at all. Even while the press absurd conspiracy theories about white supremacists stoking the riots.

    Black culture despises pussies. Even the liberal enthnographers of the 60s and 70s observed that cultural aspect. If Trump ever had any hope of getting more black votes, it won’t be by showing restraint during a metastacizing riot (Kushner should never be listened to about anything). At this point, Trump needs to take the reins and show some alpha force.

  36. Thank “god” [I personally don’t believe there is one] or more probably just dumb luck that Steve Bannon was running the 2016 campaign instead of this idiot named Kushner.

  37. @al-Gharaniq
    Not a bad strategy, TBH.

    Anything Trump says will be spun by the media as an incitement for more violence. By staying silent, he keeps leadership in the hands of each city mayor (and the state governors). Now, the Dems should be stepping up and proving their leadership skills, but they don't want to risk owning this mess and alienating more voters. We also aren't hearing that "we need Trump's leadership during this crisis!" either—when they do, then Trump can easily claim victory with a formal address.

    Either way, the silence from Democratic leaders is quite telling. Right now is Biden's time to shine, for Pelosi or AOC to jump in and try to take control of the leadership narrative. None of them are doing that, though.

    Replies: @VinnyVette, @VinnyVette, @Redman, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Lack of a response to the violence we’re seeing will only cause it to increase. If there is any deterrent to looting (i.e. the illegal violation of property by force) it is a response of greater force.

    Democratic state and local governments have shown they are not up to the task. Their power is based too much on the tenuous coalition of the fringes that Steve has presciently described for years.

    If Trump truly wants the right kind of blacks (and independents) to vote for him, he should appeal to them with law and order the way Guiliani did in 1993. This should be right in his wheelhouse.

    I would love to hear what Bloomberg is thinking about the lawlessness right now. If interviewed, would he sound like Mayor Bloomberg (R) or Presidential Candidate Bloomberg (D)?

  38. @Anonymous
    @SimpleSong

    Is it really political suicide to accept federal intervention? They do it all the time for fires, floods, hurricanes, etc.

    Granted, there is a balance to strike between looking lazy/helpless and looking foolhardy/reckless. The Katrina politicians notably punted on that needle-threading, immediately declaring themselves incompetent

    Replies: @Redman, @Alan Mercer

    Federal support comes in 2 ways: money or force. My take on Katrina is that there was plenty of money to go around, but no force to stop the rioting in NOLA.

    The lawlessness of young people (usually but not always blacks) during a disaster is a bigger social threat than the actual hurricane, flood, etc.

    Trump has no excuse not to order force under the current circumstances. I have to think this will be his next step very soon.

  39. @Mike_from_SGV
    What would be the use of a speech, or 10 more tough-sounding tweets? Trump is weak and powerless and the terrorists know it. They are mocking him by their continuing mayhem. He could have done a serious crackdown but didn't.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

    Yep. Everyone knows to call his bluff.twitter did. China did. Why wouldn’t rioters do so as well?

  40. If Trump can find a way to call Biden out for not speaking out in favor of the ‘protesters,’ won’t that give him an advantage?

    Biden’s silence is showing his true colors on race and policing.

  41. there are no “racial tensions”–what we do have is a feral Negro problem

  42. anonymous[267] • Disclaimer says:

    Stop picking on poor Jared. Jared can not help it if he is a stickler for doing everything strictly by the book. And that means keeping the Donald in line!!!

    The Protocols of the Elders of Zion

    A One-Page Summary

    Goyim are mentally inferior to Jews and can’t run their nations properly. For their sake and ours, we need to abolish their governments and replace them with a single government. This will take a long time and involve much bloodshed, but it’s for a good cause. Here’s what we’ll need to do:

    Place our agents and helpers everywhere.
    Take control of the media and use it in propaganda for our plans.
    Start fights between different races, classes and religions.
    Use bribery, threats and blackmail to get our way.
    Use Freemasonic Lodges to attract potential public officials.
    Appeal to successful people’s egos.
    Appoint puppet leaders who can be controlled by blackmail.
    Replace royal rule with socialist rule, then communism, then despotism.
    Abolish all rights and freedoms, except the right of force by us.
    Sacrifice people (including Jews sometimes) when necessary.
    Eliminate religion; replace it with science and materialism.
    Control the education system to spread deception and destroy intellect.
    Rewrite history to our benefit.
    Create entertaining distractions.
    Corrupt minds with filth and perversion.
    Encourage people to spy on one another.
    Keep the masses in poverty and perpetual labor.
    Take possession of all wealth, property and (especially) gold.
    Use gold to manipulate the markets, cause depressions etc.
    Introduce a progressive tax on wealth.
    Replace sound investment with speculation.
    Make long-term interest-bearing loans to governments.
    Give bad advice to governments and everyone else.

    Eventually the goyim will be so angry with their governments (because we’ll blame them for the resulting mess) that they’ll gladly have us take over. We will then appoint a descendant of David to be king of the world, and the remaining goyim will bow down and sing his praises. Everyone will live in peace and obedient order under his glorious rule.

    Seems to me that Jared is a deeply religious man who doing exactly as his faith commands.

  43. It’s interesting that unlike the 1968 ML King riots and 1992 Rodney King riots, ZERO government action for closing down firearm & ammo sales. Nothing for Chicago or Crook County, IL and I haven’t heard anything about LA ordering a shut down.

    The politicians KNOW their cops are useless. WIND-AM (560) commentator Amy Jacobson said she carried her CCW handgun along with another person in the streets because all the CPD coppers were downtown Chicago and her neighborhood was UNDEFENDED.

    Time to get rid of the magazine and assault weapon BANS and reestablish the 2nd Amendment as supreme for the PEOPLE.

  44. Trump is giving me fewer and fewer reasons to vote for him this time around. The only reason left is that the alternative is so bad, and I don’t mean Biden; he’s an empty suit. The people who will surround him are dangerous and are practically jizzing in their pants at the prospect of using the full force of the federal government to settle old scores.

  45. How many black votes does Jared think Trump can get in November? At best, he can hope that lack of enthusiasm for Biden will keep black turnout down. Or maybe if the looting continues through to November, blacks will be too busy to vote.

  46. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/annemarierozen/status/1267012726808883206

    https://twitter.com/JoneveMcCormick/status/1220984906542567424

    The Mayor of Minneapolis is a Jew.

    George Soros, who is the major funder of Anti-Fa, is also Jewish.

    Anti-Fa are destroying Churches.

    https://twitter.com/LawEnforceToday/status/1267321240743796738

    However, they have a very different attitude towards Synagogues.

    https://twitter.com/glizziemcguire/status/1266950977405562881

    TLDR:

    -Anti-Fa is a Jewish milita.
    -Anti-Fa is being funded by Jewish Synagogues and a Jewish financier.
    -Minneapolis mayor is Jewish.
    -Anti-Fa destroys Churches, but respects Synagogues.

    Based on the above, I would conclude that (((Jared Kushner))) has the best interest of his "fellow Whites" in mind when he gives advice to Trump.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    George Soros, who is the major funder of Anti-Fa, …………

    I’ve often seen this asserted. Is there any evidence of it? Even of the “he donates to this group, which donates to this group, which supports antifa” variety?

  47. Anonymous[930] • Disclaimer says:

    As the example of Jack and Bobby should have for all time illustrated, putting any family members in a cabinet is a bad idea. Even letting them in periphery of power.

    Being a leader is not just about leading, but being seen to lead, and being seen to be able to and willing to. The left is running an old playbook, one which has major faults but which has worked before. This might or might not be its biggest test since Weimar.

    Remind me again why Cabaret will never be remade….

  48. anonymous[147] • Disclaimer says:
    @e
    Steve, Politico has been producing the same kind of "sources say" fake stories that the Times produces. It's their standard ploy...MsNBC and CNN will be quoting this fake story all day today.

    Replies: @anonymous

    Seriously. A Politico story about the Trump admin based on an anonymous source?

    For someone who like to “notice things” why has Steve not noticed that these stories are fake 100% of the time?

  49. @Anonymous
    @SimpleSong

    Is it really political suicide to accept federal intervention? They do it all the time for fires, floods, hurricanes, etc.

    Granted, there is a balance to strike between looking lazy/helpless and looking foolhardy/reckless. The Katrina politicians notably punted on that needle-threading, immediately declaring themselves incompetent

    Replies: @Redman, @Alan Mercer

    I don’t disagree with your point, but there’s an important difference here. Politicians don’t publicly sympathize with the fire/hurricane to try to court its vote.

  50. “LAW 4. Always Say Less Than Necessary. When you are trying to impress people with words, the more you say, the more common you appear, and the less in control. Even if you are saying something banal, it will seem original if you make it vague, open-ended, and sphinxlike.

  51. @Anonymous
    @wren


    Trump could easily draw on all the examples of black folks who have lost their businesses and neighborhoods to rioting antifa
     
    Apparently the Blacks figured this out some time ago, and it's what the Black opinion leaders are saying. I think it would succeed for the same reason that Trump's existing base likes his tweets -- they express what everybody knows but are too afraid of the US Establishment to say.

    There are still the remnants of a Black middle class, not yet destroyed by Civil Rights, making their living by their actions rather than as patronage employees. Cassius Clay (later Muhammad Ali) once said "Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat", recognizing that living in the US was then better than living in Africa. It still is, and the US Blacks know that, on some level. Pointing that the riots destroy their lives and their aspirations to serve the goals of Antifa should help all concerned except Antifa and the US Establishment that made Antifa.

    Replies: @Amerimutt Golems, @thomasblair

    Anyone that needs to be told how good they had it doesn’t care if they lose it.

  52. Trump should give a speech saying that we need a new dialogue on race, and then launch into a human biodiversity discussion (very soft-core version) and talk about sprint speeds, different average predilections for academic and business achievement, crime rates and neighborhood violence, and just open up that honest but difficult topic for a broad-based national discussion. Now that would be a revolutionary speech that would change the narrative! It might work, and would make him a major figure in US history.

  53. Kushner Puts Kibosh on Trump Speech in Favor of Law and Order

    The only thing this headline is missing is Klobuchar and Kobach.

  54. Rather than just complain about Trump not giving the speech, I want to think about (and maybe dream about) what he should say. He could re-start “a conversation about race.” Obama was keen on a conversation about race; Trump should follow his lead but make it an HONEST conversation about race instead of the conventional empty and disingenuous blather.

    Trump could title the speech “Created equal, but not identical” and talk about races and ethnic groups living together without pretense that they are identical in all dimensions.

    What are the key lines he should use in this dream speech? For me it is the I Have a Dream Speech, where a world leader finally opens up the discussion about human differences and their big social consequences, so clearly evident again this past week.

    Steve Sailer could write it, Ron Unz could get it on to the White House reading list, and Stephen Miller could convince Trump that giving it is worth the risk, for a real shot at historical importance.

    That is my dream outcome.

  55. @advancedatheist
    Speaking of the Kushners, what will happen to Ivanka if her father loses the election? Will she have to go into exile and raise dragons or something?

    Replies: @Anon

    Who cares about that stupid parasitic camera hog Ivanka? She’s irrelevant.

  56. The country needs to hear from Trump now. Mark Meadows is right and Jared Kushner, as usual, is dead wrong and will cost Trump his reelection. Trump needs to fire his idiot SIL before it’s too late.

  57. HEL says:

    On a personal level I would love to see the riots crushed. Not just now, but always frankly. If I individually wandered downtown, picked a random building, smashed a window and set it on fire I strongly suspect the cops would simply shoot me. Certainly they would stop me immediately. Seems to me when a bunch of people do it stopping them becomes all the more important. And rioting should be a very, very serious crime. I’m talking hard time, years of it.

    However count me with those who don’t necessarily see it as the smart political move. Unless the suppression goes absolutely perfectly it’ll be a major controversy. Even if it does go perfectly it’ll still be portrayed as pure fascism by the press, though in that instance only the major anti-Trump loons will really buy it. If you get some bad footage a many in the soft cucky parts of the nation will get squeamish though. It isn’t just about quixotically trying to get black voters. Too hard a crackdown would alienate wussy soft-right types, and he can’t win without a decent number of them.

    Some even suggest this would make Biden into the law and order candidate. This strikes me as totally laughable. Politically speaking I really don’t think Biden can claim he’d have stopped the riots. I don’t think he can even forcefully say that they were/are bad. Trump can slough it off onto the governors, say he’ll take more active role in the future should these things happen again. Certainly this is not guaranteed to work. It’s a bad situation all around.

    Probably the smart thing to do would’ve been to stop things in Minneapolis the second night. The Minnesota people simply letting the precinct get destroyed created a new standard for just how meek and soft the local authorities can be. I suspect this inspired both other rioters to be bold and other municipalities to be weak. I would not have predicted that much weakness, not even from fucking Minnesotans, so I don’t blame Trump for not predicting it . . . But it’s too late for that. If we ever get that presidential time machine there’s definitely more important things to be changed, and the alteration of the timeline will prevent the riots from ever having happened anyway . . .

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @HEL


    Unless the suppression goes absolutely perfectly it’ll be a major controversy.
     
    You see that already. Minnesotans must be disgusted with mayor Frey for surrendering to the mob. Whereas in NYC, the Times is openly attacking the NYPD, and even DiBlassio, as jackboot fascists.

    The more the Dem politicians point the finger at one another, the better. If Trump times it just right, he could step in just as the riots are ending anyway, and possibly get the best of both worlds.

  58. Anon[240] • Disclaimer says:
    @VinnyVette
    @al-Gharaniq

    A president cannot sit by silently as the country burns down. There's been enough failed Trump 3D chess strategy already. Trump's a checker player at best, Chess is out of his league! Same as sitting back and letting the tyrannical democrat governor's continue to refuse to end the lockdowns, and open their states economies, put an end to religious gatherings etc... While he tweets "free this state or that state" hoping militia men will do the dirty work for him. All his tweets do is troll the left, mind fuck his base! Where'd that HB1 visa tweet lead to? He's left his constituency high and dry on everything!

    Replies: @Anon

    “A president cannot sit by silently as the country burns down.”

    You’re quite right. The problem is we’re engaged in a cold Civil War. Strategy and tactics have to be different during this sort of thing.

    Ultimately, we need to peel off as many people from the other side as possible and make them join us. That’s the only way we can win. Ramming the violence of the left’s noxious black pets down their throats is a good idea.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @Anon

    "The problem is we’re engaged in a cold Civil War."

    What would it take for you to accept that the "cold" part is past?

  59. HEL says:
    @Moral Stone
    @Thomas

    Regarding Kushner, it’s worth considering the possibility that the majority of what you read in the media is simply untrue. They love these “power behind the throne” stories when Republicans are in office since it delegitimizes them. “Trump isn’t in charge (Kushner/Bannon/etc) is calling the shots.” If Kushner had a heart attack tomorrow by next week there’ll be stories about some other lackey secretly being the brains of the operation.

    Regarding the riot response you’re spot on. Trump needs to respond strongly, ASAP.

    Replies: @HEL, @Guy De Champlagne, @Hypnotoad666

    Regarding Kushner, it’s worth considering the possibility that the majority of what you read in the media is simply untrue.

    The Kushner obsession is tiresome. You tell them to be skeptical of media claims. Reasonable enough. In this corner of the right though many people simply deem any and every bad policy that Trump puts forward as being the result of Kushner’s machinations regardless of whether or not anyone with knowledge has claimed, much less presented evidence, that he had anything to do with it. I do believe the First Step act was kinda his baby, but I haven’t seen much evidence he’s important overall. Positing he is a central figure is basically a microcosm of the anti-semitic worldview–Jewish infiltrator bringing it down from the inside. The anti-semitic worldview works pretty well when dealing with the world at large–Jews really do invent and advocate for a massively disproportionate number of the very bad ideas destroying our society. In this instance though the bad ideas Trump buys into are mostly boilerplate normie-Republican bullshit that the bulk of his appointees and staff already believe regardless. There’s no need to posit a sinister inner circle saboteur whispering these ideas in Trump’s ear, there’s innumerable sources for these bad ideas, including Trump himself.

  60. @Thomas
    One of these days, I hope somebody gives us a convincing account of what the hold is Jared has on Trump. Sublimated lech for Ivanka Trump can't admit? Jared's his Mossad handler? Just a feeble elder being taken advantage of by a hustling in-law?

    If Trump doesn't come up with some sort of hardline response this week, I think we'll be able to mark May 31st as the effective end of his Presidency. On the heels of coronavirus, the image of rioters outside the White House while he turns off the lights and hides in a bunker will be too indelible an image of weakness and ineffectuality to escape. No amount of trying to change the subject or shifting the blame to anybody else will live that down.

    Replies: @Moral Stone, @Army of the Potomac, @Anon

    Trump has always been way too familiar and physical with Ivanka, very peculiar, making remarks about her boobs, ass, height, series of photographs of her sitting on his lap, etc etc. Not a normal father in any way. So I think the default position is that Trump is actually the father of her children. Not Kushner. And Daddy continues to boff her regular , pretty sure. Kushner knows about it, sure, but he was brought in as a cover, got a lot of money to marry her, continues to get a ton of money, in fact anything he wants including the right to tell Donald Trump what to do. You can bet his buddies back in Israel know all about it too.

  61. @Thomas
    One of these days, I hope somebody gives us a convincing account of what the hold is Jared has on Trump. Sublimated lech for Ivanka Trump can't admit? Jared's his Mossad handler? Just a feeble elder being taken advantage of by a hustling in-law?

    If Trump doesn't come up with some sort of hardline response this week, I think we'll be able to mark May 31st as the effective end of his Presidency. On the heels of coronavirus, the image of rioters outside the White House while he turns off the lights and hides in a bunker will be too indelible an image of weakness and ineffectuality to escape. No amount of trying to change the subject or shifting the blame to anybody else will live that down.

    Replies: @Moral Stone, @Army of the Potomac, @Anon

    Concern troll.

    This forum doesn’t take well to attempts to sneak in liberal narrative within the thin wrapper of concern trolling.

  62. @Moral Stone
    @Thomas

    Regarding Kushner, it’s worth considering the possibility that the majority of what you read in the media is simply untrue. They love these “power behind the throne” stories when Republicans are in office since it delegitimizes them. “Trump isn’t in charge (Kushner/Bannon/etc) is calling the shots.” If Kushner had a heart attack tomorrow by next week there’ll be stories about some other lackey secretly being the brains of the operation.

    Regarding the riot response you’re spot on. Trump needs to respond strongly, ASAP.

    Replies: @HEL, @Guy De Champlagne, @Hypnotoad666

    If Kushner had a heart attack tomorrow by next week there’ll be stories about some other lackey secretly being the brains of the operation.

    That’s because there would be someone else behind the throne at that point (or the real power behind the throne was never Kushner). I’m not defending the specific accuracy of the media, but as far as I can tell Trump isn’t interested in governing or doing anything besides tweeting so there has to be a power behind him.

    If I’m wrong and Trump has any interest in actual governance and isn’t consumed by blustering on twitter, than how could he possibly tweet about how horrible and weak governors and mayors are when his literal front yard is literally on fire and he’s hiding in a literal bunker behind a literal personal security force? All when he has incontrovertible statutory authority to use the military to restore order? What other explanation is there?

  63. @Moral Stone
    @Thomas

    Regarding Kushner, it’s worth considering the possibility that the majority of what you read in the media is simply untrue. They love these “power behind the throne” stories when Republicans are in office since it delegitimizes them. “Trump isn’t in charge (Kushner/Bannon/etc) is calling the shots.” If Kushner had a heart attack tomorrow by next week there’ll be stories about some other lackey secretly being the brains of the operation.

    Regarding the riot response you’re spot on. Trump needs to respond strongly, ASAP.

    Replies: @HEL, @Guy De Champlagne, @Hypnotoad666

    They love these “power behind the throne” stories when Republicans are in office . . .

    Good point. Remember when Karl Rove was “Bush’s Brain” and Cheney was really the stealth president. A really smart president (and I am not saying Trump is doing this), can exploit the “power behind the throne” motif to pretend he’s above the fray while shifting the blame for unpopular decisions to his advisors. Eisenhower was good at doing that.

  64. @HEL
    On a personal level I would love to see the riots crushed. Not just now, but always frankly. If I individually wandered downtown, picked a random building, smashed a window and set it on fire I strongly suspect the cops would simply shoot me. Certainly they would stop me immediately. Seems to me when a bunch of people do it stopping them becomes all the more important. And rioting should be a very, very serious crime. I'm talking hard time, years of it.

    However count me with those who don't necessarily see it as the smart political move. Unless the suppression goes absolutely perfectly it'll be a major controversy. Even if it does go perfectly it'll still be portrayed as pure fascism by the press, though in that instance only the major anti-Trump loons will really buy it. If you get some bad footage a many in the soft cucky parts of the nation will get squeamish though. It isn't just about quixotically trying to get black voters. Too hard a crackdown would alienate wussy soft-right types, and he can't win without a decent number of them.

    Some even suggest this would make Biden into the law and order candidate. This strikes me as totally laughable. Politically speaking I really don't think Biden can claim he'd have stopped the riots. I don't think he can even forcefully say that they were/are bad. Trump can slough it off onto the governors, say he'll take more active role in the future should these things happen again. Certainly this is not guaranteed to work. It's a bad situation all around.

    Probably the smart thing to do would've been to stop things in Minneapolis the second night. The Minnesota people simply letting the precinct get destroyed created a new standard for just how meek and soft the local authorities can be. I suspect this inspired both other rioters to be bold and other municipalities to be weak. I would not have predicted that much weakness, not even from fucking Minnesotans, so I don't blame Trump for not predicting it . . . But it's too late for that. If we ever get that presidential time machine there's definitely more important things to be changed, and the alteration of the timeline will prevent the riots from ever having happened anyway . . .

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    Unless the suppression goes absolutely perfectly it’ll be a major controversy.

    You see that already. Minnesotans must be disgusted with mayor Frey for surrendering to the mob. Whereas in NYC, the Times is openly attacking the NYPD, and even DiBlassio, as jackboot fascists.

    The more the Dem politicians point the finger at one another, the better. If Trump times it just right, he could step in just as the riots are ending anyway, and possibly get the best of both worlds.

  65. This what I think Trump should do. Say nothing at all for the next 7 days. Anything he says will be held against him. Let the democrat cities destroy themselves.

    What’s good about this riot is it hasn’t confined itself to looting ghetto liquor and dollar stores
    When $5,000 hand bags and $900 men’s shirts and $2,300 women’s tops are looted it’s a whole different thing

    Big city Downtowns have been gentrifing with million dollar condos . The residents of those condos are sitting at home watching their neighborhood being looted. For instance, downtown Los Angeles was skid row during the Rodney king riots. After 38 years of gentrification there are people living in million dollar condos watching the stores across the street being looted.

    Plus, everyone looked forward to the quarantine being lifted. But now there’s 6 pm 4 pm and even 1 pm curfews. Even the liberals are getting restless. If Trump says nothing the nice ladies just might blame the riots and endless quarantine in the Democrats and rioting blacks not Trump.
    There’s some articles about the riots spreading covid hoax. So riot spread covid hoax might well be used to extend the quarantine indefinitely.

    Close the beaches and parks and demand distancing. But allow crowds of rioters to pack together. That’s what the democrats are doing.

    Another thing I wish Trump would do is Issue 2 executive orders

    1. Minneapolis not receive a penny of rebuilding money because city let an arrest gone wrong turn into a riot.

    2 Cities and counties not receive rebuilding money because they allowed an “ arrest gone wrong” hundreds of miles away to cause riots and destruction in their cities.

    Of course the liberals will get an injunction an hour later. So he should do what Lincoln did when the Supreme Court ordered him to restore haveas corpus. Lincoln refuses to restore habeas corpus and kept 40 thousand anti war northerners in jail for the duration.

    What does Trump have to lose by doing that? Nothing they won’t be able to impeach him. So if he loses in November he can go out in glory. If he wins, the Jew black gay liberal enemies of Whites will be devasted for a few days till they get their next impeachment and disaster going

  66. @Anon
    @VinnyVette

    "A president cannot sit by silently as the country burns down."

    You're quite right. The problem is we're engaged in a cold Civil War. Strategy and tactics have to be different during this sort of thing.

    Ultimately, we need to peel off as many people from the other side as possible and make them join us. That's the only way we can win. Ramming the violence of the left's noxious black pets down their throats is a good idea.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

    “The problem is we’re engaged in a cold Civil War.”

    What would it take for you to accept that the “cold” part is past?

  67. @al-Gharaniq
    Not a bad strategy, TBH.

    Anything Trump says will be spun by the media as an incitement for more violence. By staying silent, he keeps leadership in the hands of each city mayor (and the state governors). Now, the Dems should be stepping up and proving their leadership skills, but they don't want to risk owning this mess and alienating more voters. We also aren't hearing that "we need Trump's leadership during this crisis!" either—when they do, then Trump can easily claim victory with a formal address.

    Either way, the silence from Democratic leaders is quite telling. Right now is Biden's time to shine, for Pelosi or AOC to jump in and try to take control of the leadership narrative. None of them are doing that, though.

    Replies: @VinnyVette, @VinnyVette, @Redman, @Kolya Krassotkin

    “Right now is Biden’s time to shine…”
    🤣

    Dude, you slay me. Biden grows visibly more senile with every passing day, and soon he won’t even remember what planet he’s on. His greatest wants now are some warm milk in a sippy cup and a fresh nappy. If Biden could make a semi-coherent statement that could demonstrate leadership, don’t you think his handlers would have had him before the cameras days ago?

  68. @Jus' Sayin'...
    My father once observed that most Jews are very smart but a stuipid Jew is very stupid. Jared Kushner is a perfect illustration. His marriage to Ivanka Trump demonstrates the power of homogamy. Trump's obvious affection for his children would be touching were it not so dangerously misplaced.

    Replies: @Rob (London)

    His affection for Ivanka seems to be mostly unhealthy.

  69. Worked for Nixon. But Nixon didn’t have a Kushner.

  70. @Old and Grumpy
    Imagine being so weak to let your daughter's husband tell you what to do? How in the world did Trump build an empire? Or is he just the front man ?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @MBlanc46

    Trump is in far, far over his head. He takes advice from people he knows.

  71. @Interested Bystander
    It’s long past the time to stop believing the “Jarrod kept Trump from doing X” myth. Trump is not who he pretended to be in 2015-16. He had an election strategy, and it worked, and then he ran away from it. Jarrod is just his beard. Taking Trump and his tweets seriously could get a person killed or put in gaol for life.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    Steve Bannon had an election strategy.

  72. Once again, Mr. Sailer avoids offering his own keen insight that deals directly with Trump and his administration. It’s as if he is imitating the NYT to distance itself from presenting certain topics. Speaking of which, maybe the alleged pattern recognizer could learn a thing or two here…

    Hat Tip –> Talha

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=887&v=x8WRyQtEL_Q&feature=emb_title

  73. This is the sort of thing that happened to the Tsar. He played really nice and civilized and restrained. And the Bolsheviks rewarded him and his entire family as only they could.

    Same thing happened to Louis XVI. He wanted to play nice with the people and their republican desires. He lost his head for it, as did the rest of his family.

    Trump is following the exact same path. He is being led along it by this Kushner idiot who has never had a single correct instinct regarding American politics. If Trump continues to obey his son-in-law, he’s going to deserve what happens to him.

  74. Hey, not for nothing, but here’s a video showing cops killing a white guy and joking about it:

    Anyone want to riot with me? No?

    “the latest death of an African American man detained by a white police officer”

    And we KNOW that Derek Chauvin–whose name we all know–is the definite and sole cause of Floyd’s death? How many people know that an ARAB officer was putting weight on Floyd’s back at the same time? A show of hands, maybe?

    This crap is obviously orchestrated, which seems insane to me, since it could very well lead where the orchestrators do not intend–including their own mansions.

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