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Ana de Armas
From my new movie review in Taki’s Magazine:
The U.K. Vs. U.S. Detective Debate
Steve SailerDecember 11, 2019
The mystery movie Knives Out is an allegory about how Americans deserve to lose our homeland to Latin American immigrants out of our self-destructive hatred for each other. But that’s a good thing, the film says, because Latin Americans are so much nicer than we are.
Which is probably not an opinion you’d arrive at if you knew much about the history or sociology of Latin America… But, after all, who pays attention to Latin America? Thus, in Knives Out, the unlikable rich white American scions (Chris Evans of Captain America, Michael Shannon of The Shape of Water, Don Johnson of Miami Vice, and Jamie Lee Curtis of Halloween) can’t remember whether the young nurse of their self-made father (Christopher Plummer of The Sound of Music) is from Bolivia or Ecuador.
So the immigrant nurse (Ana de Armas, Ryan Gosling’s holographic girlfriend in Blade Runner 2049) deserves to inherit the country estate.
Read the whole thing there.
Personally, I think Swedish starlet Alicia Vikander looks more Vaguely Latina than Ana de Armas, who looks like Audrey Hepburn. (Both have played High Tech Dream Girls in sci fi movies: Ana in Blade Runner 2049, Alicia in Ex Machina.)
Alicia Vikander would be better cast in The Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Story than Ana de Armas.
Here’s Ms. Vikander with her husband, German-Irish movie star Michael Fassbender.
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Anybody know why Ms. Vikander is so Mediterranean looking?
Wikipedia says she is 3/4th Swedish, 1/4th Finnish.
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So it’s this Family Guy clip as a whole live action film.
I think it’s an interesting premise. The rich elite who spearheaded mass migration in pursuit of their own enrichment at the expense of native workers is now saying it’s a punishment for their own excess. Yet I keep missing the parts where the wealthy elite suffer and the poor natives don’t?
It reminds me of how in Germany there is a whole generation in power that feels guilty about what their fathers and grandfathers did so they are deciding to make their children and grandchildren pay to assuage that guilt.
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That Jersey thing sounded on the scanner like a strictly mercenary crime, a police drug sting gone wrong (in a gun-free state where the police are infamous for being overactive idiots), with the "bodega on MLK" (as it was originally introduced) a mere refuge of opportunity following the shooting of a full-day-glow fed in a cemetery. It is now being officially remembered as a legislation-mandating anti-Semitic hate crime, without mention or explanation of the blackness of the suspects. Are there black supremacist militants who would make the panthers look like kittens, and did the FBI screw up an infiltration? I not only expect that we'll never know, I await photographs of menacing prison Neo-Nazis to illustrate stories mentioning this. Reminder that the dishonest "finding" about white terrorist violence dwarfing all other kinds counts prison scuffles, only when the attacker is white and not if the victim is.Replies: @Jack D, @YetAnotherAnon
Now *that* is an attractive woman at the peak of her beauty.
Naw, she looks too much like the Guatemalans who work at the local meatpacking plant.
I wouldn't have big objections to having open borders with Ukraine for the same reason.
From the photo I would say she’s in highschool.
(Lights cigarette)
So what’s the opinion of the Black community (I can still use that word, yes? I get the feeling that it becomes more and more racist to even acknowledge that there ARE Blacks, we are getting into PKD “The Hanging Stranger” territory) on this.
Do they feel left out from the upcoming country estate repossession bonanza?
I wouldn't be surprised to see a mass chimpout in response to the term, as if you'd said "niggertown". The current state of affairs seems almost that bad, to judge by what is said in the media these days.
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She’s not that young anymore.
But she still looks okay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgtBAYzwZN8
I think it's an interesting premise. The rich elite who spearheaded mass migration in pursuit of their own enrichment at the expense of native workers is now saying it's a punishment for their own excess. Yet I keep missing the parts where the wealthy elite suffer and the poor natives don't?
It reminds me of how in Germany there is a whole generation in power that feels guilty about what their fathers and grandfathers did so they are deciding to make their children and grandchildren pay to assuage that guilt.Replies: @El Dato, @bomag, @J.Ross, @ken
“Look what you made me do! Now I have to print money until you croak. It’s your damn fault for relying on a salary!!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tmd-ClpJxA
Somewhat OT: Mark Steyn and Douglas Murray referencing the “coalition of the fringes” and the targeting of the white man starting at 1:03:08
I haven’t seen this particular movie, but in general Americans pay very little attention to the ethnical, political and regional differences in Latin America, it’s all a giant Mexiguatelombia to them. The characterization of Latino characters in movies is usually dumb and one-dimensional. But things that would be considered patronizing or stereotypical a decade ago, now are celebrated as enlightened.
American Jews are the worst in this. They promote the supposed virtues of Latinos a lot, but their knowledge of the region and its people is really little more than knowing what “buenos días” means or going to a Mexican restaurant. But what does it matter? All they want is cheaper maids, anyway.
Ana de Armas is practically Spanish, very little mestizo blood (if any). But her hair is not really blonde.
If you are in some industry where Latinos are common you might begin to notice some patterns (e.g. in construction where (in your city) the framers are Brazilian and the masons are Mexican and the ornamental iron guys are Dominican, etc.) but the average person might not have any need to know such fine gradations.Replies: @James J. O'Meara, @kaganovitch
This review left me pretty unsatisfied. “Meh. It’s an Agatha Christie style parlor mystery. I don’t like those. You might.” That doesn’t really tell me anything I didn’t know from the trailer. It’s a large, famous cast. How well do they perform? Is the dialogue witty? Apparently there are no interesting plot twists at all.
Ana de Armas was good. She has light brown or hazel eyes and they light up her face in every shot she is in. There's some gratuitous "do what we say or we'll deport your mamacita" stuff I could have done without.
Bottom line: wait until it's available at Redbox for $1.50.
It’s a large, famous cast. How well do they perform?
Some better than others. Chris Evans is good. Jamie Lee Curtis is fine. Don Johnson and Michael Shannon are dull.
Is the dialogue witty?
Infrequently.
Apparently there are no interesting plot twists at all.
Not many.
It's a living, I guess.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
Until I read it I had a vague notion from buzz in the air that this was a good movie, with an attractive cast of talent. I may still go see it, but I feel helpfully forewarned by Steve, who often has smart takes on things, that I wouldn’t have thought of on my own, partly because, hey, who has the time to think about everything?
So what's the opinion of the Black community (I can still use that word, yes? I get the feeling that it becomes more and more racist to even acknowledge that there ARE Blacks, we are getting into PKD "The Hanging Stranger" territory) on this.
Do they feel left out from the upcoming country estate repossession bonanza?Replies: @HammerJack, @nebulafox, @Twodees Partain, @European-American
Try watching any Current Year movie or TV show with a young wokester. They buy into every detail of the script and refuse to see any hint of manipulation behind it. And they’re convinced that you must be crazy for perceiving any such attempts in the material.
(I didn't think my Dad was crazy though. We didn't have as much school indoctrination back then, at least at my school.)
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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7374926/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1A reviewer writes:I probably won't see the movie.
Steve, thank you for calling it the Death Tax. Your inner Libertarian came out there. I’d have liked you to mention Jamie Lee Curtis as the actress from A Fish Called Wanda, one hilarious movie, instead of Halloween – everyone’s a critic … OK, I’ll read on ….
(Takimag looks all dicked up. What’d the guy do? Does he expect me to learn the site all over again? F that.)
Had high hopes that this movie would be fun, without politics, just a fun murder mystery my husband and I watch, but noooo. “Vaguely Latina”: very funny. Despite being 100% Brit, Celtic and Western European, I have suffered from this anomalous condition my entire life. My mom and I have also been mistaken for Jewish, in spite of our medium to small noses. When in Italy, people approach me on the street and ask if I am Italian. It’s not a coloring thing, either. I don’t know who Ana de Armas is, but my daughter resembles her a bit, and her father is also 100% European. When I sent my DNA to Promeathease out of curiosity, I found I was lacking a mutated skin color gene for fair skin which 85% of Europeans have, so maybe something is going on way back there. But I freckle and don’t even tan well. Sorry this comment is so self-referential but I’ve wondered about the Latina look thing too. I wonder what it is. Oh, we were also one of those “part Indian” families, like Elizabeth Warren, until we got the DNA done. Both my parents have this look. Maybe we’re Melungeons.
Ana de Armas was born in Cuba and went from there to Spain, then Hollywood. She is basically 0% Meso-American.
Knives Out is truly an astounding POS:
A film that insults the intelligence of it viewers constantly. One example, after the dumbest car chase ever filmed, one of the Detectives something like “that was the dumbest car chase ever”. Gee, thanks Mr. Director, if you hadn’t told us, we wouldn’t have known.
It makes the point that Deplorables are literal Nazis.
Minimal plot, minimal plot twists, staggeringly bad acting from some of the leads.
Read the One Star reviews at IMDB, some of them are quite to the point. How any part of this film has generated positive reviews is just beyond me.
My online hipster/woketard opponents assure me that the critics are right and all those deplorables are lying.
I agree with you that a significant gap between the audience score and the critic's score is often a red flag for a movie. If the critics love it and the audience hates it, it's usually because the movie is excessively woke and bashes you over the head with it. Vice versa can signal some lowbrow but popular entertainment. But this movie doesn't have that kind of gap - the wokeness is much more subtle. Presumably the allegory and symbolism flies over the audience's head and they just see an entertaining mystery movie.Replies: @Johann Ricke, @Corvinus
The anthem for the mass psychotic break of the Western oligarchy and their sad upper-middle class toadies in the face of their system facing collapse.
Spanish shmanish, Ana de Armas looks like a generic histrionic Russian crazy bitch, so when I saw that she plays a Russian bitch in some upcoming film (I forget which, perhaps the new Bond), I conceded that that’s good casting.
The film Knives Out is surprisingly not terribly made (albeit far below the quality of a good Columbo or Poirot), but the whole message, yeah. Coming on the heels of the last Terminator, it really rubs into your face the whole replacement agenda. I couldn’t believe it. The war is real.
The writer and director is Rian Johnson. Jewish? No idea. His brother is Aaron Johnson.
The producer is (((Ram Bergman))), literally an Israeli. Nuff said.
We don’t need to know much about either topic mentioned. We can easily see the evil Meso-American heritage in the dead black eyes and smashed flat faces exhibited by the vast majority of Squatemalans.
Lovecraft was right about tainted blood!
Ana de Armas is simply delicious.
Far better facial features and structure than Alicia Vikander, who has something vaguely mannish about her face.
Alicia Vikander’s Finnish ancestry is rumoured to have been Gypsy-Finnish, rather than pure Finnish. That would explain why her mother looked like this:
Well, if that’s the case, I would welcome these people with open arms.
I wouldn’t have big objections to having open borders with Ukraine for the same reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgtBAYzwZN8
I think it's an interesting premise. The rich elite who spearheaded mass migration in pursuit of their own enrichment at the expense of native workers is now saying it's a punishment for their own excess. Yet I keep missing the parts where the wealthy elite suffer and the poor natives don't?
It reminds me of how in Germany there is a whole generation in power that feels guilty about what their fathers and grandfathers did so they are deciding to make their children and grandchildren pay to assuage that guilt.Replies: @El Dato, @bomag, @J.Ross, @ken
I was thinking of this clip, but instead of blasting the peasants with a shotgun, our modern overlords import another people to blast the peasants.
Not all Swedes and Finns are blonde, and I ain’t talking about the new arrivals either
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Greta Thunberg, Time's Person* of the Year:
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Her parents:
https://starsinformer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Greta-Thunberg-Parents.jpg
*It used to be Man of the Year, with an occasional Woman of the Year.Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Clifford Brown, @Time and again
Regarding Alicia Vikander, her mother’s maiden name is swedish actress Maria Fahl and if you Google her you’d guess her ethnicity is Jewish, (dark looks and the stereotypical nose) like her name hints to.
As for Ana de Armas, both her grandfathers were immigrants from Northern Spain, according to Wikipedia, although there’s no mention of her grandmas. Bear in mind that before Castro, Cuba was 50% white, with a steady supply of European immigrants. That is, about as white as Argentina today.
It’s odd how Ana de Armas appeared reasonably attractive in the Blade Runner reboot and in the thumbnails that are included with this post, but in the new James Bond trailer, she looks plain bordering on homely.
Magic of cosmetics and camera work, I suppose.
OT: always be wary of being attracted to a self-professsed “makeup artist.” Unless she’s an actual model (i.e., paid to be in front of the camera), she will usually only have acquired her cosmetics skills out of a desperation to hide her own innate ugliness, facial deformities (acne, bad skin), or both. “After” the makeup she may look presentable, but most of the time, you’ll be stuck with her looking like “Before.”
Her mother is a Gypsy
The marriage to Fassbender is fake…he has a mistress…reference blindgossip.com
I had the exact same question after seeing her in The Light Between Oceans. Why, I thought, did they cast a Spanish girl in a movie about pre-war Anglos in Australia? She bore no resemblance to either actor portraying her parent. So I looked in Wiki and saw the same 3/4 Swedish 1/4 Finnish thing you did, and thought, well, whatever she is she ain’t a Lapp quadroon.
It is as if the casting director relied more the text of Wikipedia than on what his own eyes told him, which is a very modern malady.
FWIW, Wiki says Vikander and Fassbinder reside Portugal.
All pharmaceuticals are legal in Portugal. Probably a good thing for Ms. Vikander as she is rumored to have quite the appetite for the pills and the powders.
I really hated Brick, disliked Looper and didn’t care about Last Jedi. Extrapolating from that trend, maybe this will finally be the Rian Johnson movie I actually like.
The best movie about an old white man disinheriting his worthless offspring in favor of an immigrant is Clint Eastwood’s Gran Torino.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozymandias_(Breaking_Bad)
What was the last movie that had witty dialogue? There don’t seem to be that many anymore. The better writers seem to gravitate to serial television, or so I’ve heard, at least they don’t seem to be writing movies.
Steve’s movie reviews are usually less about the movie than about the significance of the movie in the current social environment. Which is to say, that the review is a just a vehicle for Steve to coin more Sailerisms.
In this case, the moneyshot was:
If it wasn’t good for you too, well, then you could try Rotten Tomatoes.
Who said the idea was to cast someone who looks like an actual Latina maid? It’s Hollywood. If they wanted to go for a more realistic look, they would have cast Carla Jimenez or someone similar.
This is not primarily why Hollywood avoids realistic depiction of mestizo domestics, who just aren't interesting to movie people. The cliche is you cast Salma Hayek as the maid and give her a lot of scenes and lines that would never occur with a maid in reality. A recent variation was Salma the masseuse in "Beatriz At Dinner" (incidentally, directed/written by 2 gentiles who are repeat offenders for pretensions of "class criticism" by liberal rules).
Mexican entertainment is pretty tacky in the traditional "sexist"/"beauty standard" format but, like everything, gets woker all the time ( http://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/11/emiliano-zapata-nude-painting-mexico )
It is as if the casting director relied more the text of Wikipedia than on what his own eyes told him, which is a very modern malady.
FWIW, Wiki says Vikander and Fassbinder reside Portugal.Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Oikeamielinen
Far and away the cheapest country in Western Europe. English is the de facto second language due to historical ties to Britain dating back to the 1300s.
All pharmaceuticals are legal in Portugal. Probably a good thing for Ms. Vikander as she is rumored to have quite the appetite for the pills and the powders.
Steve’s movie reviews are very rarely actual movie reviews. He’s probably better at writing reviews of golf courses than movies. But then again, this is not why readers come here.
Latin America, home to 1/12th of the world’s population is responsible for 1/3rd of world homicides. That’s an amazing, and under-reported statistic.
Thank goodness Mexico has such restrictive gun laws. Think how bad things would be if it had a 2nd Amendment.
Whatever. I’m just happy our leaders are pushing for more diversity. I just love the gritty experience of their menace. If I even make eye contact with the wild-eyed hoodlum rocking the neon-yellow-low-ride-honda-civic as we jockey for a parking spot–I could end up riddled with bullet holes. Personally, I love the fact that the little jackal before me knows that I know that this simple social interaction might result in my death. Think about how empowering it must be for them. I, for one, love being a part of the experience. Thanks Diversity!
Citation needed.
I'm not that skeptical, given that Mexico has a large population and a really bad murder rate, but the linkage must be provided for future reference in other venues. Give me facts, please.
Mexican gun law is modeled on French law, and is essentially only applied to ordinary people. The cartels ran drugs and guns into Mexico for years. I would not be surprised if there aren't still East German AK's down there that were forwarded from Cuba to El Salvador that just "got lost" and wound up in Guerrero.Replies: @Anonymous
It’s called a tan, Steve, and it’s very much store bought. If you see pictures of her in the off season, and in many of her film roles, she’s pale skinned and looks like an attractive Scandi. She got a spray tan for awards season, because that’s what white people like, and maybe in part to look ethnically ambiguous for Hollywood.
Vikander looks more Scandinavian in Anna Karenina (2012) and The Danish Girl (2015). She doesn’t look particularly Latin now, I think. She just looks like a Scandinavian who moved to California and got some sun.
The best movie about an old white man disinheriting his worthless offspring in favor of an immigrant is Clint Eastwood's Gran Torino.Replies: @Jesse, @Hapalong Cassidy
Brick is brilliant, as long as you like modern day film noir with some 70s B movies thrown in. Looper could’ve cut the entire mid third, and added some hard science, and been like Inception.
That wouldn't be a plus in my book. I hated "Inception".
In many of her stills Vikander looks almost orange — another tragic victim of Boehner’s Syndrome?
OT: Apparently Trump admin has introduced legal language recognising ‘Jewish’ to refer to an ethnicity and nationality rather than just a religious designation (Though obviously the two were synonymous when the term was defined many decades ago) allowing a clearer legal path to make criticism of Israel or Zionism a form of ‘racism’ to make BDS activism illegal on college campuses.
Hilariously despite the context Blueticks are trying to act like it’s a prelude to another holocaust. Yes, Trump’s craven pandering to Jewish interests at every opportunity is just a clever ruse.
https://twitter.com/erinbiba/status/1204543880370237441
https://twitter.com/indyfromspace/status/1204596651849109504
They don’t seem too upset about trampling over the constitution to single out and make BSD speech illegal with jail time though… Once again a story ultimately about Palestine doesn’t see much mention of Palestinians…
It’s actually a continual source of amazement to me how BDS speech is being made illegal with jail time across so many jurisdictions in the US. Where are the progressive activist judges to strike this crazy laws down?
There’s an expression they use on Vdare, “It ain’t over till the alien wins”, and this would be a good way to sum up this film. By the way, what’s the deal with Daniel Craig’s accent? Maybe some people in the US talk like that, but I’ve never heard any of them. At first I thought he was supposed to be French.
There can only be two possible answers as to why A. Vikander looks so Mediterranean:
A. Her mom cheated on her dad with a swarthy med lover.
B. Although you can often tell who’s who, there’s a non-insignificant overlap in skin tone and general appearance between Northern and Southern Europeans.
During my stay in the UK, native Brits would most often think I’m either Spanish or Italian (I’m Greek with maybe a bit of Slavic blood), based on my med looks and weird accent, so not too far off. A few thought I was born and bred somewhere in England, until I opened my mouth. I would get the ‘you must be a foreigner’ looks in the English countryside; in the Welsh countryside, not so much. Pakistanis always guessed correctly I’m a kafir. Indians noticed the differences in skin tones between Europeans, but weren’t that good with facial structures. Blacks (especially African blacks) all thought I’m white. One of them called me an imperialist once. I didn’t confirm or deny it, and changed the subject to football.
Even when a British actor can fake an American accent, the masquerade often unravels when he tries to look natural in a baseball cap
Is Ana too dusky to star in “We’re All Going to Die: The Greta Thunberg Story”
I dunno … when I DuckDuckGo “Swedish People,” one of the images I get is this:
Barbara Palvin has those two pissant broads beat by a mile or more when it comes to CLASSICAL BEAUTY.
Some Danish farm girl named Solveig Hansen is right in line with the Hungarian Barbara Palvin when it comes to CLASSIC BEAUTY.
That Vikander broad looks like Vin Diesel and that Armas lady looks like Paul Rudd after getting stung in the lower face by a bee.
"Elbows too sharp, 2/10, would not bang in a million years."
Steve, please take one for the team and watch and review the newest installment of Disney’s all new woke iteration of Star Wars. I know you’re not a fan but I also know you are honest and have no agenda when you write your reviews that are often more entertaining than the subject matter could ever hope to be. Consider it a Christmas gift for your more “on the spectrum ” fan base.
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I thought the review was going to be more about this sociological angle, but instead it ended up being a bunch of trivia. Oh well, bloggers need to blog about something, I guess. At least we haven’t had any earthquakes lately…
But she still looks okay.
Just ok is not ok.
Why patronize this rot? Even if you pay only for “good” movies, you’re feeding the same people. Same goes for Sportsball.
Flush twice, move on.
My wife’s German (as in German, not German-American) has similar coloring to Alicia Vikander. Her family lore is that they have dark eyes/ hair/ and skin because of Roman ancestry. Seems odd to me, but who knows.
American Jews are the worst in this. They promote the supposed virtues of Latinos a lot, but their knowledge of the region and its people is really little more than knowing what "buenos días" means or going to a Mexican restaurant. But what does it matter? All they want is cheaper maids, anyway.
Ana de Armas is practically Spanish, very little mestizo blood (if any). But her hair is not really blonde.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Ana_de_Armas_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpgReplies: @njguy73, @Jack D, @Lurker, @Jack D, @Andy
From the 1995 movie Clueless:
Dug the review and will be skipping this flick.
Interestingly, you’ve managed to review, to a greater or lesser extent, everyone of my favorite films this year (OUaTiH, The Irishman, Ford v Ferrari, Joker and the Rolling Thunder documentary) except for one: The Lighthouse. Would love to know your thoughts if you get around to seeing it…Willam Dafoe’s performance is insanely sublime.
From Monty Python, approximately:
–Mr. … Luxury Yacht, is it?
–No, it’s spelt “Luxury Yacht,” but it’s pronounced “Throat-Warbler Mangrove.”
Mint julip Southern accents are one of those things “actorly” actors like to do when given the chance–usually when cast as villains or in silly movies. See Tom Hanks in The Ladykillers and Kenneth Branagh in The Wild, Wild West. It’s an over-the-top accent designed to be ridiculous and mock Southerners.
Many nasty British actors relish the opportunity to do a really thick bad one, if only because, to British ears, all Americans have a drawl, so therefore the exaggeration is a mock of all American accents. Its really a mocking of all Americans. The play The Foreigner involved a Brit visiting the American South and the contrast of accents was played for humor.
Contrast this to the talented Michael Caine, who’s American accent is almost never thick or mocking. Caine once said that, ironically, while his American accent was praised by American critics, it was derided by British critics, because, according to Caine, most Brits are too unsubtle and can’t distinguish the difference between a Texas drawl and a clipped Yankee accent.
Hans Gruber meets John McClane. Do I have to provide a language warning on a Die Hard clip?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSdpRP_bVOM
This clip is on topic because Christmas!
OT:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/12/11/nyregion/jersey-city-shooting.amp.html
Anti-Semitic attack targetting a kosher grocery store in Jersey City that left 6 dead in a massive gun battle perpetrated by Black Hebrew Israelites, the group of saintly POC that opposed the evil Covington Catholic smirker in the famous videotaped confrontation of good vs. evil.
How long before Monty Python gets cancelled?
I’d start stocking up on DVDs and downloads now, to get ahead of the rush.
“The Lumberjack Song” alone is a massive aggression in the current year—-transphobic, toxic masculinity, and patriarchy!:
So what's the opinion of the Black community (I can still use that word, yes? I get the feeling that it becomes more and more racist to even acknowledge that there ARE Blacks, we are getting into PKD "The Hanging Stranger" territory) on this.
Do they feel left out from the upcoming country estate repossession bonanza?Replies: @HammerJack, @nebulafox, @Twodees Partain, @European-American
For what it is worth, as an American, I have never met an actual black American who referred to themselves as anything but black. African immigrants, for their part, would typically refer to their country of origin: Nigeria, Ghana, Haiti, Tanzania, wherever.
“African-American” is a term I have only heard from white left-wingers and schoolteachers. It’s pretty ridiculous. If anything, US blacks have even less of a connection with Africa than most US whites do with Europe, partially for obvious historical slavery-related reasons, but also because they’ve simply been here longer than most (not all) white people, descended from post-1800 immigration.
However, though it’s common to say “Asian” to mean race, no one would just say “African” to mean black. Or “European” to mean white. Though “Hispanic” by itself is a racial term like “Asian”.
It’s safer to just add “-American” to all of those, then we can be consistent.
Then there’s “Indian”, which should be unambiguously the subcontinental “dot”, since “feather” is “Native”.
Then there’s “Australian”, which should be for so-called aborigines. Consistency requires that Crocodile Dundee be called a “European-Australian”.
A native (aborigine) Australian immigrant would be an “Australian-American”, but Mel Gibson should be referred to as a “European-Australian-American”.
There. That’s all settled then!Replies: @Reg Cæsar
“Knives Out” is the title of 1 of my favorite songs by Radiohead….its kinda obscure so when I saw the trailer for this film the other month I truly wondered if he got the title from that Yorke song….
You were able to stay awake for a whole Daniel Craig movie? Better man than I am. Craig usually puts me to sleep in under 15 minutes.
The best movie about an old white man disinheriting his worthless offspring in favor of an immigrant is Clint Eastwood's Gran Torino.Replies: @Jesse, @Hapalong Cassidy
Johnson’s best work is probably the several episodes of Breaking Bad he directed, including what is widely regarded as the best episode in the entire series.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozymandias_(Breaking_Bad)
The Vikings used to go on raids all over the Mediterranean coasts, especially Italy, and they probably brought back quite a few local girls on their raids.
Anyway, Nordics are not 100% blond to begin with.
I’m a Heinz 57 North Euro mix with Irish and Scandinavian forming the largest part of my ancestry according to DNA testing. My only known quasi- Mediterranean ancestry is from France and it doesn’t even show up on DNA tests, it’s just documented in our family tree. I am regularly mistaken for Latina or Italian, as is my father. My father gets asked if he is Jewish too. Part of the reason for that is because a bunch of his parents friends (by extension some of his childhood friends too) were Jewish so I guess he picked up on their mannerisms/slang.
I have a photograph of one of my Scandinavian-born ancestors and honestly he looks like a Turk or some other vaguely Central Asian nationality.
Why Ecuador and Bolivia as points of origin for De Amas? Those are two of the most Amerindian Latin American nations. She’s more believable as a Colombian or Venezuelan if they want her to be from a poor Latino country.
I can buy all kinds of absurd plot contrivances in service of an entertaining film…..But that is taking things too far. Presented with this kind of beauty
what heterosexual man could remain that uninterested ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgtBAYzwZN8
I think it's an interesting premise. The rich elite who spearheaded mass migration in pursuit of their own enrichment at the expense of native workers is now saying it's a punishment for their own excess. Yet I keep missing the parts where the wealthy elite suffer and the poor natives don't?
It reminds me of how in Germany there is a whole generation in power that feels guilty about what their fathers and grandfathers did so they are deciding to make their children and grandchildren pay to assuage that guilt.Replies: @El Dato, @bomag, @J.Ross, @ken
And the visible, aggressive rich presented are really caricatures of WASP society from before WWI. We are reduced to a letter signifying a ballpoint pen drawing of a straw statue of a dog.
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That Jersey thing sounded on the scanner like a strictly mercenary crime, a police drug sting gone wrong (in a gun-free state where the police are infamous for being overactive idiots), with the “bodega on MLK” (as it was originally introduced) a mere refuge of opportunity following the shooting of a full-day-glow fed in a cemetery. It is now being officially remembered as a legislation-mandating anti-Semitic hate crime, without mention or explanation of the blackness of the suspects. Are there black supremacist militants who would make the panthers look like kittens, and did the FBI screw up an infiltration? I not only expect that we’ll never know, I await photographs of menacing prison Neo-Nazis to illustrate stories mentioning this. Reminder that the dishonest “finding” about white terrorist violence dwarfing all other kinds counts prison scuffles, only when the attacker is white and not if the victim is.
They have now recovered some sort of "manifesto" from the shooter's van. The Hasids in Jersey City are being pushed out of Williamsburg Brooklyn by gentrification and settled in an all black part of Jersey City (Satmars tend to be poor because they receive no secular education and spend all their time studying the Talmud instead of working). You can imagine that some segments of that ghetto community did not welcome their new neighbors.Replies: @J.Ross, @Clifford Brown
American Jews are the worst in this. They promote the supposed virtues of Latinos a lot, but their knowledge of the region and its people is really little more than knowing what "buenos días" means or going to a Mexican restaurant. But what does it matter? All they want is cheaper maids, anyway.
Ana de Armas is practically Spanish, very little mestizo blood (if any). But her hair is not really blonde.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Ana_de_Armas_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpgReplies: @njguy73, @Jack D, @Lurker, @Jack D, @Andy
As a practical matter, it’s not necessary for Americans to know all the different types and shades of Latinos. You can divide them into two categories and that’s close enough. There is a small minority of mostly or 100% European descended Latinos (counting Lebanese and Jews as European) who you might go to as your doctor or have business dealings with or if you are in Hollywood hire as actors or directors. The average person might never even meet such a white Latino unless they live in Florida – due to some “bad luck” in Cuba, Venezuela, etc. much of the white Latino elite now lives in Miami. Then there is a great mass of brownish and blackish Latinos (most of them) who cut your lawn, clean your hotel room, etc. Does it really make any difference if your cleaning lady is Mexican or Guatemalan?
If you are in some industry where Latinos are common you might begin to notice some patterns (e.g. in construction where (in your city) the framers are Brazilian and the masons are Mexican and the ornamental iron guys are Dominican, etc.) but the average person might not have any need to know such fine gradations.
Dame Edith got into some trouble a long time ago for disparaging the learning of Spanish: "What, do you want to talk with your gardener?"
It's like jungle Asians and fancy Asians,only for South/Central America. Hey this jungle/fancy taxonomy has legs!
You miss a crucial detail: the back-patters holding forth on the ignorance of others are themselves unable to tell the difference between Oaxaca and Aguascalientes.
There are some Scandinavians who have a sort of Asiatic appearance but Vikander looks Mediterranean not Asiatic. In both cases this may just be a “look” and not reflect any actual Asiatic or Mediterranean admixture or at least not any in historic times.
Let’s do a trans-Atlantic comparison between Chandler and Wodehouse. Chandler’s easy enough. There’s a website with a Chandler Timeline:
https://www.shamustown.com/timeline.html
Simplified version (leaving out brief trips, etc):
US: 1888-1900
UK:1900-1912
US:1912-1917
1917-1919: Service in Europe with the Canadian Army
1919-1955: US
1955-1959: Back-and-forth between the USA and UK
Wodehouse is trickier (I can’t find a convenient timeline for him), but, looking at his WIKIPEDIA bio, we get a first visit to the US in 1904….then a second visit in 1909….repeated trips to NY between 1910 and 1914….1914-1918 was spent in NY…..returns to UK approx 1920….but makes repeated trips to NY for protracted stays….Period in Hollywood (1929-1931)….During the ’30s continues his habit of jaunting back-and-forth between UK and USA before settling in France…Stuck in France during the War….in US from 1946 to his death in 1975….
Chandler on the hardboiled school of detective fiction:
http://www.en.utexas.edu/Classes/Bremen/e316k/316kprivate/scans/chandlerart.html
-Raymond Chandler, “The Simple Art of Murder”
Ms. Vikander looks Scandinavian to me. I don’t see the “latin look” in her face at all. Ana de Armas looks a lot like a Brazilian lady I know. She’s almost as beautiful as my Brazilian friend as well, so for me she passes pretty well as latina in a screen role.
So what's the opinion of the Black community (I can still use that word, yes? I get the feeling that it becomes more and more racist to even acknowledge that there ARE Blacks, we are getting into PKD "The Hanging Stranger" territory) on this.
Do they feel left out from the upcoming country estate repossession bonanza?Replies: @HammerJack, @nebulafox, @Twodees Partain, @European-American
“So what’s the opinion of the Black community (I can still use that word, yes?”
I wouldn’t be surprised to see a mass chimpout in response to the term, as if you’d said “niggertown”. The current state of affairs seems almost that bad, to judge by what is said in the media these days.
“Looper could’ve cut the entire mid third, and added some hard science, and been like Inception.”
That wouldn’t be a plus in my book. I hated “Inception”.
On Deadly Ground is a silly film, and Caine was well aware of that. Heck, they shoehorned in the title because Segal wanted all his films to have three word titles.
Try his accent here:
From working construction I don’t have to guess nationalities of hispanics. If they are not mexican, they will tell you that in the first 5 seconds of meeting.
If you are in some industry where Latinos are common you might begin to notice some patterns (e.g. in construction where (in your city) the framers are Brazilian and the masons are Mexican and the ornamental iron guys are Dominican, etc.) but the average person might not have any need to know such fine gradations.Replies: @James J. O'Meara, @kaganovitch
” Does it really make any difference if your cleaning lady is Mexican or Guatemalan?”
Dame Edith got into some trouble a long time ago for disparaging the learning of Spanish: “What, do you want to talk with your gardener?”
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That Jersey thing sounded on the scanner like a strictly mercenary crime, a police drug sting gone wrong (in a gun-free state where the police are infamous for being overactive idiots), with the "bodega on MLK" (as it was originally introduced) a mere refuge of opportunity following the shooting of a full-day-glow fed in a cemetery. It is now being officially remembered as a legislation-mandating anti-Semitic hate crime, without mention or explanation of the blackness of the suspects. Are there black supremacist militants who would make the panthers look like kittens, and did the FBI screw up an infiltration? I not only expect that we'll never know, I await photographs of menacing prison Neo-Nazis to illustrate stories mentioning this. Reminder that the dishonest "finding" about white terrorist violence dwarfing all other kinds counts prison scuffles, only when the attacker is white and not if the victim is.Replies: @Jack D, @YetAnotherAnon
A lot of things sound like one thing on the scanner and turn out to be something else later on when all the facts are clearer. 99% of the time when there are reports of “multiple shooters” on the scanner there is only one – the only multiple shooters are the cops. Fog of war.
They have now recovered some sort of “manifesto” from the shooter’s van. The Hasids in Jersey City are being pushed out of Williamsburg Brooklyn by gentrification and settled in an all black part of Jersey City (Satmars tend to be poor because they receive no secular education and spend all their time studying the Talmud instead of working). You can imagine that some segments of that ghetto community did not welcome their new neighbors.
This news segment was filmed at Bayview and MLK, the same intersection as yesterday's tragic shooting. Many Satmars have accents unique to their community.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yWMbrk_kQw
American Jews are the worst in this. They promote the supposed virtues of Latinos a lot, but their knowledge of the region and its people is really little more than knowing what "buenos días" means or going to a Mexican restaurant. But what does it matter? All they want is cheaper maids, anyway.
Ana de Armas is practically Spanish, very little mestizo blood (if any). But her hair is not really blonde.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Ana_de_Armas_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpgReplies: @njguy73, @Jack D, @Lurker, @Jack D, @Andy
Isn’t black ancestry more of a possibility from Cuba? And the odds she has much of that seem very small.
https://broadly-images.vice.com/images/articles/meta/2017/01/11/carla-jimenez-reinvents-the-role-of-the-tv-maid-on-the-mick-1484167518.jpgReplies: @Anonymous, @Kronos
American media, because gay-run, has a special horror of flab and bulk, so they “give a wider berth” to performers of that shape (with the odd intermittent clemency clause for very fat black women who are musical and possess Personality and therefore serve as ego-bearers for gay men, an occupation undergoing some outsourcing to fat Brit/Australian white girls). Other nations’ news-entertainment doesn’t have the same hang-up, cf. N. European/UK morning shows, more like a respectful quota of landwhales they can hire before losing all viewers completely.
This is not primarily why Hollywood avoids realistic depiction of mestizo domestics, who just aren’t interesting to movie people. The cliche is you cast Salma Hayek as the maid and give her a lot of scenes and lines that would never occur with a maid in reality. A recent variation was Salma the masseuse in “Beatriz At Dinner” (incidentally, directed/written by 2 gentiles who are repeat offenders for pretensions of “class criticism” by liberal rules).
Mexican entertainment is pretty tacky in the traditional “sexist”/”beauty standard” format but, like everything, gets woker all the time ( http://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/11/emiliano-zapata-nude-painting-mexico )
She will ever and always be the actress from Trading Places.
American Jews are the worst in this. They promote the supposed virtues of Latinos a lot, but their knowledge of the region and its people is really little more than knowing what "buenos días" means or going to a Mexican restaurant. But what does it matter? All they want is cheaper maids, anyway.
Ana de Armas is practically Spanish, very little mestizo blood (if any). But her hair is not really blonde.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Ana_de_Armas_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpgReplies: @njguy73, @Jack D, @Lurker, @Jack D, @Andy
Part of being an actress and model is that they are required to sport all sorts of different hair colors according to the demands of the role or shoot (not that women need much prompting – some women do this anyway even though they don’t have to). In her fashion photos, de Armas’s hair goes anywhere from inky black to bleached blond. My guess that her natural color is a sort of mousy medium brown so that she looks better with her hair dyed either lighter or darker than her natural hair color but it’s probably been so long since she has had naturally colored hair that she doesn’t even remember what color that was anymore.
A funny one is Sofia Vergara who is a natural blond but when she came to the US she dyed her hair darker because casting directors didn’t know what to do with a blond with a Spanish accent.
You astonish me, Mr Sailer. Have you never seen, e.g., a Bergman film? The most stereotypical image of Swedes is blond (see also Team, Bikini, Swedish), but her look is also a very classic Swedish look.
Of the ABBAers, only Agnetha looked stereotypically Swedish:
Greta Thunberg, Time’s Person* of the Year:
Her parents:
*It used to be Man of the Year, with an occasional Woman of the Year.
The lyric "I feel like I win when I lose" has a peak Swedish air about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFk6-Mn-8ygReplies: @Stan Adams
I think I'll trust their judgement.Replies: @Stan Adams
A better catch than Rainer-Werner Fassbinder, who didn’t quite live to see her.
To pay for her assisted-living condo.
Bricker and Ibbitson report in Empty Planet:
My father’s mother outlived him by a decade. His paternal half-sister and her husband buried their 66-year-old son three years ago– and are still alive at 92 and 97. His other sister is 96, and could survive one of her tree children– two born in the ’40s, one in the ’60s.
Which brings another sense of “knives out” to mind:
It caused her a lot of unhappiness and many had the sense that the father having to bury his daughter was karmic justice.
I’m unlikeably rich, white, impossibly shallow, and it’s true I don’t remember much about other people who aren’t making me money in some way, quite honestly. But it doesn’t matter what race you are, because it’s too complicated. I’m not going to keep track of whether a fellow is black or mulatto, and what the differences are. Hondurans are just short Mexicans to me. I don’t have the time, nor the patience to sort all that out. No hate here, it’s just not my interest. I don’t care about stamp collecting, hang-gliding, or Mexicans.
To be perfectly candid, the only reason I can remember Sailer’s name is because it’s the same last name as Popeye’s, where my children’s nanny works when they’re are at military school.
Hope this helps the people who’s names I will never commit to long term memory.
They have now recovered some sort of "manifesto" from the shooter's van. The Hasids in Jersey City are being pushed out of Williamsburg Brooklyn by gentrification and settled in an all black part of Jersey City (Satmars tend to be poor because they receive no secular education and spend all their time studying the Talmud instead of working). You can imagine that some segments of that ghetto community did not welcome their new neighbors.Replies: @J.Ross, @Clifford Brown
Are the Lakewood operators Satmar?
I’m not entirely convinced actors get to just pick an accent to suit their own peculiar prejudices. What about the director, the producers, the original script? Though the clout of the actor concerned may have something to do with it.
In a more general sense everything I see on screen has varying degrees of anti-white animus, I don’t think the actors are the prime offenders.
Magic of cosmetics and camera work, I suppose.
OT: always be wary of being attracted to a self-professsed "makeup artist." Unless she's an actual model (i.e., paid to be in front of the camera), she will usually only have acquired her cosmetics skills out of a desperation to hide her own innate ugliness, facial deformities (acne, bad skin), or both. "After" the makeup she may look presentable, but most of the time, you'll be stuck with her looking like "Before."Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
Allow me to congratulate you on your refined tastes in women, and offer that should the situation arise I will willingly relieve you of the burden of Ms. de Armas’ homeliness.
Well,
Mrs Fassbender’s husband is a great actor.
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And I thoroughly agree anyone who thinks that the land South of Border is breeding nicer humans doesn’t know much about human history or current events of the region.
Honestly, HammerJack, when I was a wee one watching “One Day at a Time” and my Dad complained to my Mom about the agenda behind the whole single-woman promoting show, I didn’t get it either. Of course, I was not an adult. How old are the “wokesters” you are talking about?
(I didn’t think my Dad was crazy though. We didn’t have as much school indoctrination back then, at least at my school.)
The movie, while ostensibly pro-immigration, steps all over one of the usual liberal justifications for mass immigration – which is that white Americans are dull, colorless and lacking in any type of culture, and thus in need of immigrants to add much needed vibrancy. Instead, in the movie, the white characters, though bad people, are interesting and exciting, while the immigrant is completely flat and boring. In addition, the white characters are played by famous charismatic actors, as opposed to the dull no-name actress who plays the immigrant.
While the overt message of the movie might have been that immigrants/good and white Americans/bad, I’m guessing that the average moviegoer would rather hang-out with Don Johnson than spend two minutes with the incredibly boring nurse.
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That Jersey thing sounded on the scanner like a strictly mercenary crime, a police drug sting gone wrong (in a gun-free state where the police are infamous for being overactive idiots), with the "bodega on MLK" (as it was originally introduced) a mere refuge of opportunity following the shooting of a full-day-glow fed in a cemetery. It is now being officially remembered as a legislation-mandating anti-Semitic hate crime, without mention or explanation of the blackness of the suspects. Are there black supremacist militants who would make the panthers look like kittens, and did the FBI screw up an infiltration? I not only expect that we'll never know, I await photographs of menacing prison Neo-Nazis to illustrate stories mentioning this. Reminder that the dishonest "finding" about white terrorist violence dwarfing all other kinds counts prison scuffles, only when the attacker is white and not if the victim is.Replies: @Jack D, @YetAnotherAnon
I gather it was Black Hebrew Israelites robbing a kosher grocer? It’s Steve’s world, we just live in it (about 2,000 miles away in my case).
What do you mean Lakewood operators? There are all sorts of Jews in Lakewood including Satmars.
https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/10/26/14/abbagroup2610a-0.jpg
Greta Thunberg, Time's Person* of the Year:
https://bi.im-g.pl/im/26/ae/17/z24833318Q,Greta-Thunberg.jpg
Her parents:
https://starsinformer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Greta-Thunberg-Parents.jpg
*It used to be Man of the Year, with an occasional Woman of the Year.Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Clifford Brown, @Time and again
“only Agnetha looked stereotypically Swedish”
The lovely Anni-Frid was the daughter of a Norwegian mother and German soldier father. Mum moved to Sweden because there was a bit of prejudice against horizontal collaborators in post-WW2 Norway.
Greta’s parents look pretty Nordic (and dad looks younger than mum), Greta herself has a Bjork air – some Sami/Lapp/Inuit genes somewhere?
http://sensesofcinema.com/assets/uploads/2002/05/Rainer-Werner-Fassbinder.pngTo pay for her assisted-living condo.Bricker and Ibbitson report in Empty Planet:My father's mother outlived him by a decade. His paternal half-sister and her husband buried their 66-year-old son three years ago-- and are still alive at 92 and 97. His other sister is 96, and could survive one of her tree children-- two born in the '40s, one in the '60s.Which brings another sense of "knives out" to mind:
https://images.forwardcdn.com/image/720x/center/images/cropped/bris-21313-1425661700.jpgReplies: @Jack D, @Anonymous
It’s not just mothers and sons (though it more often is). My (very healthy for her age) 97 year old MIL has an ailing daughter and an even more seriously ill granddaughter. At this point (unfortunately) I would not be willing to take bets that all three will go in the natural order.
Yes *groan*.
Check out A.V. Club, Den of Geek etc. These people appear to devote their entire waking lives to watching TV, yet they see nothing.
I had long spat in the last week with woketards extolling the praises of Watchmen and The Punisher. The current woke incarnations. Also further back about Dr Who.
Apparently the pozzing of Watchmen doesn’t matter because . . . its not our world!
And Dr Who? As the Dr is alien – it is no concern of ours if he turns into a lady.
One counter to this is to point out that all these shows are written, directed, produced and performed by humans and more important that 100% of the audience is human. Thus the casting and the context of what we see on screen is actually very important to humans despite the woketards autistic protestations.
HOW! DARE! YOU!?. – She’s right, you know. We ARE all going to die.
The pretty, Spanish looking Ana De Armas would not pass as either the average Ecuadoran, Bolivian, or Guatemalan. No doubt, one could find a few who look like her, but that is not an average look. And certainly, someone who looked like her from those countries would not be cleaning homes.
Several points, from the comments.
– White Cubans have more Native American than SSA on average because there was an effort not to mix, and West African is less recessive vs. European than Native. In other words, Native heritage is easier to hide, and then forget. Many Euro-leaning Cubans have upwards 20% Native, but the average is less than 10%.
A good example is Marco Rubio, who is about 94% Euro and 6% Native with a Native maternal haplogroup. (I don’t think such a small amount of native would make much of a difference in appearance. I believe he reflects the more exotic “Berid” Iberian phenotype, while Anna De Armas is more of a “Alpine Med.” Of course, these are not scientific.)
– Alicia Vikander’s pigmentation is not common, but neither is it unheard of. I have seen Americans and Canadians who are entirely of NW Euro descent with similar pigmentation. I think a good example is Anthony Kledis of the Red Hot Chili Peppers. He made a big deal of his Native American ancestry some time back, when such things were considered acceptable. But in reality, he probably has Elizabeth Warren levels of Native American. The great majority of his ancestry is Lithuanian and English, and yet he is about as brown as Vikander.
Another good example is German actress Liv Lisa Fries.
My personal thought? I believe they are expressing an archaic European pigmentation that has slowly been selected against in favor of the fairer variations more common today.
Knives Out is truly an astounding POS:
A film that insults the intelligence of it viewers constantly. One example, after the dumbest car chase ever filmed, one of the Detectives something like "that was the dumbest car chase ever". Gee, thanks Mr. Director, if you hadn't told us, we wouldn't have known.
It makes the point that Deplorables are literal Nazis.
Minimal plot, minimal plot twists, staggeringly bad acting from some of the leads.
Read the One Star reviews at IMDB, some of them are quite to the point. How any part of this film has generated positive reviews is just beyond me.Replies: @Lurker, @Jack D
The gulf between the critics and the deplorable viewers on many titles are pretty stark on Rotten Tomatoes and IMDb. Just check them out!
My online hipster/woketard opponents assure me that the critics are right and all those deplorables are lying.
Knives Out is truly an astounding POS:
A film that insults the intelligence of it viewers constantly. One example, after the dumbest car chase ever filmed, one of the Detectives something like "that was the dumbest car chase ever". Gee, thanks Mr. Director, if you hadn't told us, we wouldn't have known.
It makes the point that Deplorables are literal Nazis.
Minimal plot, minimal plot twists, staggeringly bad acting from some of the leads.
Read the One Star reviews at IMDB, some of them are quite to the point. How any part of this film has generated positive reviews is just beyond me.Replies: @Lurker, @Jack D
On Rotten Tomatoes, Knives Out not only gets 97% from the critics but 92% from the audience, so everyone seems to like it. Presumably most audience members didn’t see it as Steve did, as supporting the premise that Latinos deserve to inherit the House of America.
I agree with you that a significant gap between the audience score and the critic’s score is often a red flag for a movie. If the critics love it and the audience hates it, it’s usually because the movie is excessively woke and bashes you over the head with it. Vice versa can signal some lowbrow but popular entertainment. But this movie doesn’t have that kind of gap – the wokeness is much more subtle. Presumably the allegory and symbolism flies over the audience’s head and they just see an entertaining mystery movie.
* And on occasion, mirroring real life, the help would turn out to be the illegitimate offspring of his/her employer.
That would a false premise. Of course, the Alt Right and conservatives are having a field day by getting their ducks in a row.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/12/movie-review-knives-out-woke-white-left-annihilation-fantasy/
"If the critics love it and the audience hates it, it’s usually because the movie is excessively woke and bashes you over the head with it"
That is one interpretation. It could be that the audience expected something different, or that they thought the performances were lackluster, or that the script was convoluted, or that they simply came away from the experience as being other than overwhelmed.Replies: @Jack D
Dulwich doesn’t have The Swampers, Muscle Shoals had them, but Dulwich has the leader of the Brexit Party, Nigel Farage, and I hope the Brexit Party gets over twelve percent in the upcoming UK elections.
I wrote this about Dulwich Limey Nigel Farage in 2018:
Not very familiar with Chandler, Wodehouse or Forester, primarily because I am an American Empire hayseed peasant at heart, but NIGEL FARAGE went to Dulwich. Farage is my favorite Hoogy-Know.
Nigel Farage on TORY POSH BOYS, the Brexit vote and the immigration issue(2017):
Thank you, Mr. Fan. I, for one, could use a little pick-me-up entertainment from iSteve during Christmas time. The Red Bull is just not cutting it.
I agree with you that a significant gap between the audience score and the critic's score is often a red flag for a movie. If the critics love it and the audience hates it, it's usually because the movie is excessively woke and bashes you over the head with it. Vice versa can signal some lowbrow but popular entertainment. But this movie doesn't have that kind of gap - the wokeness is much more subtle. Presumably the allegory and symbolism flies over the audience's head and they just see an entertaining mystery movie.Replies: @Johann Ricke, @Corvinus
It’s also possible to read too much into these things. The traditional ending involved an outsider, someone who wasn’t a blood relative, getting the inheritance – the butler, the maid, etc*. What this director did was tweak the formula ever so slightly – he made the outsider a foreigner. But it wasn’t that big a tweak – he could have chosen an Oriental, a Dravidian subcontinental or a Bushman to play the help. Instead, he chose a European-looking Latin American not all that different in appearance from the actors chosen to play the actual family members.
* And on occasion, mirroring real life, the help would turn out to be the illegitimate offspring of his/her employer.
Michael Shannon, rabid liberal and Trump obsessive, now seems to specialize in portraying unattractive white men the audience loves to hate: Premium Rush, The Shape of the Black Lagoon, etc
It’s a living, I guess.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2093991/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_25
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1491044/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_43
I saw a video clip of Alicia Vikander when she was about 12-ish, besides having brown eyes she was very fair. I have a feeling that she has been “ret-conned” more “ethnic-y”, especially giving her her permanent tan.
You mean the actress from True Lies.
I dated (separately) two Finnish girls just after college, both brunettes who turned a beautiful honey brown after a few days of sunbathing on the beach. Exquisite.
Whites are probably one of the most phenotypically diverse races on the planet. Possibly because Europe is so geographically diverse and full of isolated zones. On the other hand, seeing how the white race came to be, it makes sense. Basically the original mass racemixing resultReplies: @Jack D
It was not a robbery. They ran into the store with rifles drawn and started shooting. They left behind a pipe bomb and a manifesto in their (stolen) van. It was some kind of terror attack. They had already killed a (white) Uber driver and the (white) cop who approached them when he saw the stolen van which was linked to the Uber murder (and people wonder why cops are quick on the trigger). Then they drove to the kosher grocery store and started firing.
Be interesting to see how the media threads this needle. Black Israelites may have as many Wokemon points as Jewish storekeepers even if they are not harassing Catholic kids in DC. But on the other hand, daylight murder may sell newspapers and clicks but it's not supposed to be celebrated, except when more legislation is needed of course.
Diversity is our strength, though, and jamming lots of different people into a vibrant stew can't have any downside.
I'm sure that eventually we'll be informed that the lingering effects of Jim Crow redlining and stereotype threat from white people are the root causes of the crime. Because everything bad is Whitey's fault. Everything. No exceptions.
Again, I have a great deal of pity for the survivors of all the murder victims.
I haven’t seen the movie …
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7374926/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
A reviewer writes:
I probably won’t see the movie.
http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/10/SWEDEN-NOBEL--640x480.jpgReplies: @El Dato
That’s pretty Deep Sweden.
I mean the ones that are internationally famous for running concurrent highly ambitious fraud schemes, which, I have to imagine, would take away from one’s bible study time.
https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/10/26/14/abbagroup2610a-0.jpg
Greta Thunberg, Time's Person* of the Year:
https://bi.im-g.pl/im/26/ae/17/z24833318Q,Greta-Thunberg.jpg
Her parents:
https://starsinformer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Greta-Thunberg-Parents.jpg
*It used to be Man of the Year, with an occasional Woman of the Year.Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Clifford Brown, @Time and again
Frida was technically born in Norway, but all four members looked extremely Swedish to my eye.
The lyric “I feel like I win when I lose” has a peak Swedish air about it.
The average dumb American thinks of the typical Swede as a Viking specimen out of a Nazi wet dream: blond hair, blue eyes, tall, lean (but physically robust), square jaw. Dolph Lundgren and Jeri Ryan.
Benny, Björn, and Frida do not exemplify this (inaccurate) stereotype.
Several points, from the comments.
- White Cubans have more Native American than SSA on average because there was an effort not to mix, and West African is less recessive vs. European than Native. In other words, Native heritage is easier to hide, and then forget. Many Euro-leaning Cubans have upwards 20% Native, but the average is less than 10%.
A good example is Marco Rubio, who is about 94% Euro and 6% Native with a Native maternal haplogroup. (I don't think such a small amount of native would make much of a difference in appearance. I believe he reflects the more exotic "Berid" Iberian phenotype, while Anna De Armas is more of a "Alpine Med." Of course, these are not scientific.)
- Alicia Vikander's pigmentation is not common, but neither is it unheard of. I have seen Americans and Canadians who are entirely of NW Euro descent with similar pigmentation. I think a good example is Anthony Kledis of the Red Hot Chili Peppers. He made a big deal of his Native American ancestry some time back, when such things were considered acceptable. But in reality, he probably has Elizabeth Warren levels of Native American. The great majority of his ancestry is Lithuanian and English, and yet he is about as brown as Vikander.
Another good example is German actress Liv Lisa Fries.
My personal thought? I believe they are expressing an archaic European pigmentation that has slowly been selected against in favor of the fairer variations more common today.Replies: @Flip, @Red Pill Angel
The Spanish have a not immaterial amount of North African DNA due to the long Islamic occupation.
I don't believe that the average, which is 5%, would have a significant impact on phenotype given that North Africans are Caucasoid.
Also, history does not begin with one event. The Moors may loom heavy, but there was history before them. The Romans added a great deal of North African to the Southern half (and perhaps the west) during their stay, as well as East Med (and to themselves, as a study recently showed, that Republic Romans were North Italian like, while Imperial Romans were more like Sicilians). Also, you forget the Carthaginians and the Phoneticians -both North African civilizations- colonized the SE of the peninsula.
They all left their print on the peninsula, and the natives from those areas, were already part North African before the Moors even showed up, testing as high as 17%.
A study recently showed that the expulsion of the Moors actually lowered this North African component by a significant amount, going from almost 50% in the south (after the occupation) to less than 5% in the same area. Given that the North African component was testing in the teens before the Moors even landed, the results of the Moorish occupation may have ironically reduced our overall North African component as opposed to increasing it.Replies: @Autochthon
Just one data point: my black co-worker, a lady in her 60s, says “African-American” all the time.
This is a terrible crime, multiple families have been grieved. Frankly, I’m not looking forward to the political fallout either.
Be interesting to see how the media threads this needle. Black Israelites may have as many Wokemon points as Jewish storekeepers even if they are not harassing Catholic kids in DC. But on the other hand, daylight murder may sell newspapers and clicks but it’s not supposed to be celebrated, except when more legislation is needed of course.
Diversity is our strength, though, and jamming lots of different people into a vibrant stew can’t have any downside.
I’m sure that eventually we’ll be informed that the lingering effects of Jim Crow redlining and stereotype threat from white people are the root causes of the crime. Because everything bad is Whitey’s fault. Everything. No exceptions.
Again, I have a great deal of pity for the survivors of all the murder victims.
They have now recovered some sort of "manifesto" from the shooter's van. The Hasids in Jersey City are being pushed out of Williamsburg Brooklyn by gentrification and settled in an all black part of Jersey City (Satmars tend to be poor because they receive no secular education and spend all their time studying the Talmud instead of working). You can imagine that some segments of that ghetto community did not welcome their new neighbors.Replies: @J.Ross, @Clifford Brown
The Satmars’ tendency for hardball when it comes to real estate has partially contributed to the lack of trust in the neighborhood.
This news segment was filmed at Bayview and MLK, the same intersection as yesterday’s tragic shooting. Many Satmars have accents unique to their community.
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what heterosexual man could remain that uninterested ?Replies: @GFHÄNDEL
Even a homosexual man is interested. She is great as “Joi” in the Bladerunner sequel.
https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/10/26/14/abbagroup2610a-0.jpg
Greta Thunberg, Time's Person* of the Year:
https://bi.im-g.pl/im/26/ae/17/z24833318Q,Greta-Thunberg.jpg
Her parents:
https://starsinformer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Greta-Thunberg-Parents.jpg
*It used to be Man of the Year, with an occasional Woman of the Year.Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Clifford Brown, @Time and again
True to its legacy as a respectable publication, Time magazine has been presenting us with wonderful Human Beings of the Year since 1938.
I think I’ll trust their judgement.
If Greta and the Gaia-worshipping climate fanatics get their way, billions will die in the name of "saving the environment." So at least she's in good company.
When the Marauder minimum hits in a few years and Stockholm is buried under a glacier, will Time publish a photograph of Greta encased in ice?Replies: @kaganovitch
Except the problem with your “review” is that you buried the lede. It’s OK that you don’t care for “English country-house murder mysteries with stylized dilettante detectives” and about “solving fictional murder mysteries”. Your biases, however, significantly hamper your overall work. And, of course, you began the piece with yet another false premise.
I agree with you that a significant gap between the audience score and the critic's score is often a red flag for a movie. If the critics love it and the audience hates it, it's usually because the movie is excessively woke and bashes you over the head with it. Vice versa can signal some lowbrow but popular entertainment. But this movie doesn't have that kind of gap - the wokeness is much more subtle. Presumably the allegory and symbolism flies over the audience's head and they just see an entertaining mystery movie.Replies: @Johann Ricke, @Corvinus
“Presumably most audience members didn’t see it as Steve did, as supporting the premise that Latinos deserve to inherit the House of America.”
That would a false premise. Of course, the Alt Right and conservatives are having a field day by getting their ducks in a row.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/12/movie-review-knives-out-woke-white-left-annihilation-fantasy/
“If the critics love it and the audience hates it, it’s usually because the movie is excessively woke and bashes you over the head with it”
That is one interpretation. It could be that the audience expected something different, or that they thought the performances were lackluster, or that the script was convoluted, or that they simply came away from the experience as being other than overwhelmed.
Hilariously despite the context Blueticks are trying to act like it's a prelude to another holocaust. Yes, Trump's craven pandering to Jewish interests at every opportunity is just a clever ruse.
https://twitter.com/erinbiba/status/1204543880370237441
https://twitter.com/indyfromspace/status/1204596651849109504
They don't seem too upset about trampling over the constitution to single out and make BSD speech illegal with jail time though... Once again a story ultimately about Palestine doesn't see much mention of Palestinians...
It's actually a continual source of amazement to me how BDS speech is being made illegal with jail time across so many jurisdictions in the US. Where are the progressive activist judges to strike this crazy laws down?Replies: @Anonymous
I’m not particularly into Slavoj Zizek but apparently he has said something about Israel and “the trouble with Jews” and he’s not in trouble with the mensch-mob, including the independent.joo.uk which flatly refused to even publish his letter to the editor written in response to his article that caused the uproar in the first place.
Slavoj Zizek’s ‘trouble with Jews’ may be a poor choice of words – but are you allowed to criticize Israel in UK media anymore?
Sources say an order for H-C≡N, to be delivered in blue plastic barrels marked as “tick reprllent” via a Russian transport ship to New York has been placed at I.G. Farben during Merkle’s last visit (the one where she marched around awkwardly in relatively dark Hugo Boss gear). ICE agents are ready to take the delivery and proceed to their assigned camps as soon as Orange Man gives the Yellow Sign.
https://twitter.com/indyfromspace/status/1204597354051112960
How does she know that many of my Jewish friends are having that disucssion? Too much Hollywood?
Some Danish farm girl named Solveig Hansen is right in line with the Hungarian Barbara Palvin when it comes to CLASSIC BEAUTY.
That Vikander broad looks like Vin Diesel and that Armas lady looks like Paul Rudd after getting stung in the lower face by a bee.
https://twitter.com/SI_Swimsuit/status/1133025078550122497
https://twitter.com/SI_Swimsuit/status/1111659335380283393Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Anonymous
In other words…
“Elbows too sharp, 2/10, would not bang in a million years.”
The lyric "I feel like I win when I lose" has a peak Swedish air about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFk6-Mn-8ygReplies: @Stan Adams
They look Swedish to me, too. But they don’t have stereotypical Nordic features.
The average dumb American thinks of the typical Swede as a Viking specimen out of a Nazi wet dream: blond hair, blue eyes, tall, lean (but physically robust), square jaw. Dolph Lundgren and Jeri Ryan.
Benny, Björn, and Frida do not exemplify this (inaccurate) stereotype.
I think I'll trust their judgement.Replies: @Stan Adams
Hitler was MotY in 1938, Stalin in 1939 (and ’42), Churchill in 1940, FDR in 1941. How many tens of millions died under the collective leadership of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse? How much damage was done to Western civilization?
If Greta and the Gaia-worshipping climate fanatics get their way, billions will die in the name of “saving the environment.” So at least she’s in good company.
When the Marauder minimum hits in a few years and Stockholm is buried under a glacier, will Time publish a photograph of Greta encased in ice?
I think you mean the Maunder minimum, but I have to admit it's one of spellcheck's better coinages.
While the overt message of the movie might have been that immigrants/good and white Americans/bad, I'm guessing that the average moviegoer would rather hang-out with Don Johnson than spend two minutes with the incredibly boring nurse.Replies: @Steve Sailer
They could have made a Sleuth type movie with just the grandfather and his grandson facing off: Christopher Plummer and Chris Evans are both very good (until Plummer’s role turns sappy).
Eliza Dushku was more interesting in that movie.
To be perfectly candid, the only reason I can remember Sailer's name is because it’s the same last name as Popeye's, where my children's nanny works when they’re are at military school.
Hope this helps the people who’s names I will never commit to long term memory.Replies: @S. Anonyia
If this post is sincere and not satire, I have a question: how does someone who doesn’t observe their surroundings & retain information easily make a lot of money? Family connections?
Depending on the area, it’s somewhere between 8-0%. With Galicia (NW) and Extrenamuda (west) scoring the highest, Asturias/Leon at 4% (in the center north) and 0% Basque (NE). Of course, if he has Canarian ancestry, it may be higher than that, and that could be the reason for his “look.” Many commercial tests, like 23andMe, don’t separate this component from the European component in Spanish, Portuguese (10%), and their New World descendants’ results.
I don’t believe that the average, which is 5%, would have a significant impact on phenotype given that North Africans are Caucasoid.
Also, history does not begin with one event. The Moors may loom heavy, but there was history before them. The Romans added a great deal of North African to the Southern half (and perhaps the west) during their stay, as well as East Med (and to themselves, as a study recently showed, that Republic Romans were North Italian like, while Imperial Romans were more like Sicilians). Also, you forget the Carthaginians and the Phoneticians -both North African civilizations- colonized the SE of the peninsula.
They all left their print on the peninsula, and the natives from those areas, were already part North African before the Moors even showed up, testing as high as 17%.
A study recently showed that the expulsion of the Moors actually lowered this North African component by a significant amount, going from almost 50% in the south (after the occupation) to less than 5% in the same area. Given that the North African component was testing in the teens before the Moors even landed, the results of the Moorish occupation may have ironically reduced our overall North African component as opposed to increasing it.
That would a false premise. Of course, the Alt Right and conservatives are having a field day by getting their ducks in a row.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/12/movie-review-knives-out-woke-white-left-annihilation-fantasy/
"If the critics love it and the audience hates it, it’s usually because the movie is excessively woke and bashes you over the head with it"
That is one interpretation. It could be that the audience expected something different, or that they thought the performances were lackluster, or that the script was convoluted, or that they simply came away from the experience as being other than overwhelmed.Replies: @Jack D
But you would think that professional critics would also pick up on things like lackluster performances?
Or like the (false) premise as illustrated by Mr. Sailer, right? Perhaps this notion that the film having "lackluster performances" ought not be based upon one's political or ideological preferences; rather, it ought to be based upon dramatic criteria. Of course, critics have their own biases which guide their review. Maybe, just maybe, those performances were not lackluster, nor the film's intent as being "anti-white".Replies: @Anon
I never said I was completely opposed to open borders. We should have no restrictions on ingress by women who are under 25 and under 125.
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It was satire.
That aside, I don’t think you know what “tunnel-vision” is. It’s a predilection for a certain prescribed outcome, at the expense of everything else that might be a matter of importance to an average person.
Some of the most socially tone-deaf people I’ve ever met have been the richest people I’ve ever been around. They don’t hear or retain any significant information that doesn’t apply to making money. And they love their lives. They don’t need to cultivate traditional friendships, or loving relationships with the opposite sex, or their children, because they have so much money, the people around them enthusiastically act as if they are the rich person’s friends or loving wife, or respectful children for as long as the rich person wants them around.
Not all filthy rich people are like this, but plenty of them are.
Hope this helps.
https://broadly-images.vice.com/images/articles/meta/2017/01/11/carla-jimenez-reinvents-the-role-of-the-tv-maid-on-the-mick-1484167518.jpgReplies: @Anonymous, @Kronos
I’ve never considered it before, but are white liberal women more comfortable with female Hispanics just because they’re often fat or pudgy? That’s there’s less of a threat of “hubby” banging the obese/diabetic maid and thus she remains of higher status. Black females are even fatter (the only racial demographic where men are less obese than women on average.) But they’re incredibly bossy and brash so “Emilia” works well.
Also the “Karen” meme is akin to the “white Becky” meme for the Millennial Working Class. (They’re often the same person.)
If you are in some industry where Latinos are common you might begin to notice some patterns (e.g. in construction where (in your city) the framers are Brazilian and the masons are Mexican and the ornamental iron guys are Dominican, etc.) but the average person might not have any need to know such fine gradations.Replies: @James J. O'Meara, @kaganovitch
You can divide them into two categories and that’s close enough. There is a small minority of mostly or 100% European descended Latinos (counting Lebanese and Jews as European) who you might go to as your doctor or have business dealings with or if you are in Hollywood hire as actors or directors. The average person might never even meet such a white Latino unless they live in Florida – due to some “bad luck” in Cuba, Venezuela, etc. much of the white Latino elite now lives in Miami. Then there is a great mass of brownish and blackish Latinos (most of them) who cut your lawn, clean your hotel room, etc. Does it really make any difference if your cleaning lady is Mexican or Guatemalan?
It’s like jungle Asians and fancy Asians,only for South/Central America. Hey this jungle/fancy taxonomy has legs!
If Greta and the Gaia-worshipping climate fanatics get their way, billions will die in the name of "saving the environment." So at least she's in good company.
When the Marauder minimum hits in a few years and Stockholm is buried under a glacier, will Time publish a photograph of Greta encased in ice?Replies: @kaganovitch
When the Marauder minimum hits in a few years…
I think you mean the Maunder minimum, but I have to admit it’s one of spellcheck’s better coinages.
“But you would think that professional critics would also pick up on things like lackluster performances?”
Or like the (false) premise as illustrated by Mr. Sailer, right? Perhaps this notion that the film having “lackluster performances” ought not be based upon one’s political or ideological preferences; rather, it ought to be based upon dramatic criteria. Of course, critics have their own biases which guide their review. Maybe, just maybe, those performances were not lackluster, nor the film’s intent as being “anti-white”.
India, supposedly the 'world's largest democracy', recently passed a law that only non-Moslem and Non-Christian refugees would henceforth be eligible for Indian citizenship. And it passed by a big margin
What are your (supposed) universal thoughts on that? Are they fine to do that?
If yes what are your thoughts on the US doing something similar? Like preferring only white, preferably WASP immigrants over others. After all, when the world's largest democracy can do it, so can we. Or can we??Replies: @Corvinus
Didn’t stop Arnold Schwarzenegger and the irony is that his son with the short fat Mexican maid is the one who most resembles him and carries his physique while his Kennedy son is a big fat morbidly obese slob.
He has two sons with Maria Shriver, Christopher and Patrick. Christopher is the fat one.
There is a certain consistency… Asian (-American), African, European.
However, though it’s common to say “Asian” to mean race, no one would just say “African” to mean black. Or “European” to mean white. Though “Hispanic” by itself is a racial term like “Asian”.
It’s safer to just add “-American” to all of those, then we can be consistent.
Then there’s “Indian”, which should be unambiguously the subcontinental “dot”, since “feather” is “Native”.
Then there’s “Australian”, which should be for so-called aborigines. Consistency requires that Crocodile Dundee be called a “European-Australian”.
A native (aborigine) Australian immigrant would be an “Australian-American”, but Mel Gibson should be referred to as a “European-Australian-American”.
There. That’s all settled then!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peekskill,_New_York#Notable_people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Vision,_New_York
So what's the opinion of the Black community (I can still use that word, yes? I get the feeling that it becomes more and more racist to even acknowledge that there ARE Blacks, we are getting into PKD "The Hanging Stranger" territory) on this.
Do they feel left out from the upcoming country estate repossession bonanza?Replies: @HammerJack, @nebulafox, @Twodees Partain, @European-American
Thanks for the reminder of “The Hanging Stranger”, a good story.
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/41562/41562-h/41562-h.htm
Or like the (false) premise as illustrated by Mr. Sailer, right? Perhaps this notion that the film having "lackluster performances" ought not be based upon one's political or ideological preferences; rather, it ought to be based upon dramatic criteria. Of course, critics have their own biases which guide their review. Maybe, just maybe, those performances were not lackluster, nor the film's intent as being "anti-white".Replies: @Anon
Hay Corny!
India, supposedly the ‘world’s largest democracy’, recently passed a law that only non-Moslem and Non-Christian refugees would henceforth be eligible for Indian citizenship. And it passed by a big margin
What are your (supposed) universal thoughts on that? Are they fine to do that?
If yes what are your thoughts on the US doing something similar? Like preferring only white, preferably WASP immigrants over others. After all, when the world’s largest democracy can do it, so can we. Or can we??
According to Who/Whom? Of course, they may have their own take on "democracy". And, assuredly, given how their religion had a built in system of one's "proper place", there will remain a disconnect to the American version.
"recently passed a law that only non-Moslem and Non-Christian refugees would henceforth be eligible for Indian citizenship. And it passed by a big margin."
Let's offer the proper context here. The legislation cleared parliament's lower house by that big margin, but it did not pass in the upper house, after violent anti-migrant protests in north-eastern India.
Opponents of the bill say it is exclusionary and violates the secular principles enshrined in the constitution. They say faith cannot be made a condition of citizenship.
"What are your (supposed) universal thoughts on that? Are they fine to do that?"
On one hand, it seems the bill is protecting religious minorities. On the other hand, it appears that it is ultimately discriminatory against Muslims. The bottom line is we Americans have our own problems to attend to. It makes no sense to become involved in their internal matters.
"If yes what are your thoughts on the US doing something similar? Like preferring only white, preferably WASP immigrants over others."
That won't happen, nor should it.
I liked the review. Especially the end, that breaks off and disappoints, similarly, I suppose, to the way the reviewer was disappointed. But the abrupt ending is also a bit of a surprise. And a time saver for all. Enough said!
Until I read it I had a vague notion from buzz in the air that this was a good movie, with an attractive cast of talent. I may still go see it, but I feel helpfully forewarned by Steve, who often has smart takes on things, that I wouldn’t have thought of on my own, partly because, hey, who has the time to think about everything?
This picture always makes me happy:
https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/201692/rs_1024x892-161002132015-1024.Arnold-Schwarzenegger-Instagram.kg.100216.jpg?fit=inside|900:auto&output-quality=90
Arnold Schwarzenegger: “Son, how’d you like to go with your old man to Oktoberfest in Austria?”
Mexican Schwarzenegger: “Can we wear lederhosen, dad?”
Arnold: “You bet!”
“It’s odd how Ana de Armas appeared reasonably attractive in the Blade Runner reboot and in the thumbnails that are included with this post, but in the new James Bond trailer, she looks plain bordering on homely.”
True. This is called “hitting the wall”–a thing that happens to women in their late twenties/early thirties:)
From now on, she’ll have to be a gym/healthy lifestyle psycho just to not become a landwhale.
But are you saying Craig’s accent is of the type that faithfully mimics the real thing, or is meant to mock Southerners? It just seemed contrived to me, as if he were perhaps trying too hard not to mispronounce anything. It doesn’t come across as natural.
http://sensesofcinema.com/assets/uploads/2002/05/Rainer-Werner-Fassbinder.pngTo pay for her assisted-living condo.Bricker and Ibbitson report in Empty Planet:My father's mother outlived him by a decade. His paternal half-sister and her husband buried their 66-year-old son three years ago-- and are still alive at 92 and 97. His other sister is 96, and could survive one of her tree children-- two born in the '40s, one in the '60s.Which brings another sense of "knives out" to mind:
https://images.forwardcdn.com/image/720x/center/images/cropped/bris-21313-1425661700.jpgReplies: @Jack D, @Anonymous
Farrah Fawcett’s father survived her by about a year: he was into his nineties. Fawcett was 62, and had had numerous relationships with men who beat her: her father had beaten her a lot apparently and to her, a man just didn’t love her if he never smacked her. That was apparently Lee Majors’ failing in his husbandly duties.
It caused her a lot of unhappiness and many had the sense that the father having to bury his daughter was karmic justice.
https://www.shamustown.com/timeline.html
Simplified version (leaving out brief trips, etc):
US: 1888-1900
UK:1900-1912
US:1912-1917
1917-1919: Service in Europe with the Canadian Army
1919-1955: US
1955-1959: Back-and-forth between the USA and UK
Wodehouse is trickier (I can’t find a convenient timeline for him), but, looking at his WIKIPEDIA bio, we get a first visit to the US in 1904….then a second visit in 1909….repeated trips to NY between 1910 and 1914….1914-1918 was spent in NY…..returns to UK approx 1920….but makes repeated trips to NY for protracted stays….Period in Hollywood (1929-1931)….During the ’30s continues his habit of jaunting back-and-forth between UK and USA before settling in France…Stuck in France during the War….in US from 1946 to his death in 1975….
Chandler on the hardboiled school of detective fiction:http://www.en.utexas.edu/Classes/Bremen/e316k/316kprivate/scans/chandlerart.html
-Raymond Chandler, "The Simple Art of Murder"Replies: @Rob McX, @Mr McKenna
Max Eastman on PG Wodehouse: “He is, I believe, the only man living who speaks with equal fluency the American and English languages”.
I saw the preview for Knives Out; even just from that it looked like current-year garbage. Plus Daniel Craig’s southern-lawyer accent sounded fake.
Yeah, people (especially americans) overestimate how blonde fennoscandia is. It’s 70% blonde at best.
Whites are probably one of the most phenotypically diverse races on the planet. Possibly because Europe is so geographically diverse and full of isolated zones. On the other hand, seeing how the white race came to be, it makes sense. Basically the original mass racemixing result
The irony is that in terms of overall genetic diversity, Africans are much more diverse because Africa is the wellspring of humanity. Diversity is always greatest on the home territory of a species. Outside of its home territory, a handful of varieties of potato grow, but in the Peruvian highlands there are thousands of different kinds. Same thing with humans - only a handful of humans migrated to Europe 35,000 years ago and (aside from our Neanderthal genes) all white people are descended from this small band - whatever diversity whites have is relatively recent.
But somehow the genetic diversity of Africans does not express itself in skin color beyond a certain range of brown. Even though a trend toward paleness is driven by sexual selection (paleness and blondness is a youth signal and men prefer mates who are young enough to be fertile (as well as OLD enough to be fertile - normal men's sexual preference really falls in a narrow age band corresponding to the years of peak female fertility), in Africa being too pale would be a survival disadvantage. In Northern climes, having pale skin is an advantage in terms of Vitamin D production but it doesn't appear to be a big one. The main driver was probably that sexual election in favor of paleness could run unchecked - your pale offspring with your pale sexy bride would not be burned to a crisp and would survive to have more pale offspring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgtBAYzwZN8
I think it's an interesting premise. The rich elite who spearheaded mass migration in pursuit of their own enrichment at the expense of native workers is now saying it's a punishment for their own excess. Yet I keep missing the parts where the wealthy elite suffer and the poor natives don't?
It reminds me of how in Germany there is a whole generation in power that feels guilty about what their fathers and grandfathers did so they are deciding to make their children and grandchildren pay to assuage that guilt.Replies: @El Dato, @bomag, @J.Ross, @ken
More like mass migration to keep the welfare state running. Every politician would be voted out of office if they tried to reform social security.
India, supposedly the 'world's largest democracy', recently passed a law that only non-Moslem and Non-Christian refugees would henceforth be eligible for Indian citizenship. And it passed by a big margin
What are your (supposed) universal thoughts on that? Are they fine to do that?
If yes what are your thoughts on the US doing something similar? Like preferring only white, preferably WASP immigrants over others. After all, when the world's largest democracy can do it, so can we. Or can we??Replies: @Corvinus
“India, supposedly the ‘world’s largest democracy’…”
According to Who/Whom? Of course, they may have their own take on “democracy”. And, assuredly, given how their religion had a built in system of one’s “proper place”, there will remain a disconnect to the American version.
“recently passed a law that only non-Moslem and Non-Christian refugees would henceforth be eligible for Indian citizenship. And it passed by a big margin.”
Let’s offer the proper context here. The legislation cleared parliament’s lower house by that big margin, but it did not pass in the upper house, after violent anti-migrant protests in north-eastern India.
Opponents of the bill say it is exclusionary and violates the secular principles enshrined in the constitution. They say faith cannot be made a condition of citizenship.
“What are your (supposed) universal thoughts on that? Are they fine to do that?”
On one hand, it seems the bill is protecting religious minorities. On the other hand, it appears that it is ultimately discriminatory against Muslims. The bottom line is we Americans have our own problems to attend to. It makes no sense to become involved in their internal matters.
“If yes what are your thoughts on the US doing something similar? Like preferring only white, preferably WASP immigrants over others.”
That won’t happen, nor should it.
“Anybody know why Ms. Vikander is so Mediterranean looking?”
Tanning?
It’s better than his accent in On Deadly Ground, but that’s an extremely low bar.The problem with his Cider House Rules accent is that’s it’s too technical. Caine is hitting those rhotic sounds way too hard.
Some say that Greta is on the spectrum of fetal alcohol syndrome. Certainly, she displays all the typical facial features of such syndrome. Google it up. Her parents claim she’s autistic. In any case, very bad parenting.
https://stadsteatern.goteborg.se/globalassets/backa/1-pa-scen/1980/1985-1986/ah-min-pappa-stor.jpgReplies: @BB753
Dude, her mother is Jewish. Google it up! Maria Fahl.
Place of Birth: Gothenburg, Västra Götalands län, Sweden
Date of Birth: 3 October, 1988
Ethnicity: Swedish, small amount of Finnish, distant Baltic German
https://ethnicelebs.com/alicia-vikanderReplies: @BB753
Whites are probably one of the most phenotypically diverse races on the planet. Possibly because Europe is so geographically diverse and full of isolated zones. On the other hand, seeing how the white race came to be, it makes sense. Basically the original mass racemixing resultReplies: @Jack D
Yes, when it comes to other races, you can have pretty much any color you want as long as it is brown or black – brown skin, brown eyes, black hair.
The irony is that in terms of overall genetic diversity, Africans are much more diverse because Africa is the wellspring of humanity. Diversity is always greatest on the home territory of a species. Outside of its home territory, a handful of varieties of potato grow, but in the Peruvian highlands there are thousands of different kinds. Same thing with humans – only a handful of humans migrated to Europe 35,000 years ago and (aside from our Neanderthal genes) all white people are descended from this small band – whatever diversity whites have is relatively recent.
But somehow the genetic diversity of Africans does not express itself in skin color beyond a certain range of brown. Even though a trend toward paleness is driven by sexual selection (paleness and blondness is a youth signal and men prefer mates who are young enough to be fertile (as well as OLD enough to be fertile – normal men’s sexual preference really falls in a narrow age band corresponding to the years of peak female fertility), in Africa being too pale would be a survival disadvantage. In Northern climes, having pale skin is an advantage in terms of Vitamin D production but it doesn’t appear to be a big one. The main driver was probably that sexual election in favor of paleness could run unchecked – your pale offspring with your pale sexy bride would not be burned to a crisp and would survive to have more pale offspring.
Several points, from the comments.
- White Cubans have more Native American than SSA on average because there was an effort not to mix, and West African is less recessive vs. European than Native. In other words, Native heritage is easier to hide, and then forget. Many Euro-leaning Cubans have upwards 20% Native, but the average is less than 10%.
A good example is Marco Rubio, who is about 94% Euro and 6% Native with a Native maternal haplogroup. (I don't think such a small amount of native would make much of a difference in appearance. I believe he reflects the more exotic "Berid" Iberian phenotype, while Anna De Armas is more of a "Alpine Med." Of course, these are not scientific.)
- Alicia Vikander's pigmentation is not common, but neither is it unheard of. I have seen Americans and Canadians who are entirely of NW Euro descent with similar pigmentation. I think a good example is Anthony Kledis of the Red Hot Chili Peppers. He made a big deal of his Native American ancestry some time back, when such things were considered acceptable. But in reality, he probably has Elizabeth Warren levels of Native American. The great majority of his ancestry is Lithuanian and English, and yet he is about as brown as Vikander.
Another good example is German actress Liv Lisa Fries.
My personal thought? I believe they are expressing an archaic European pigmentation that has slowly been selected against in favor of the fairer variations more common today.Replies: @Flip, @Red Pill Angel
OP said “They are expressing an archaic European pigmentation”
I suspect the Black Irish and Welsh dark coloring have nothing to do with Roman soldiers or Spaniards washed ashore, but have been around longer than anybody else. The Slightly Exotic cat-eyed Brit look is just Brit: isn’t Catherine Zeta-Jones Welsh? Also Liz Taylor. I remember someone from my hometown with a British surname who had black hair and striking golden yellow eyes. My hometown in Tennessee was full of dark people who thought they were part Cherokee. Perhaps this Black Irish/Brit coloring is related to archaic Iberian and even Canary Islanders and ancient Berbers more than to anything more recent. It probably extends up into Scandinavia and Germany too and has forever.
Nice. I used to propose no legal immigration except two categories: a “hottie visa” and a “restaurant visa.” Nothing but attractive young women and people offering authentic top-notch dim sum, pho, pancit, and the like.
Mediterranean-looking? Mmm.. you mean brown?
Not all European women are well made or pretty. Miss Vikander seems unremarkable yet not plain, has “brown” face oval, and lacks defined cheekbones.
What an end to an article. 🙄
That would explain why her mother looks so much older than her father…
Jeez, thanks a lot. I’m glad I saw the movie before reading your review! No, you didn’t exactly give away the ending… but in a way, you did.
Knives Out turned out to be a much smaller, less complicated movie than I’d imagined. But still amusing.
You left out the funniest line: When Daniel Craig’s detective alludes to Gravity’s Rainbow and explains that it’s a novel by Thomas Pynchon, the heroine admits, somewhat apologetically, that she’s never read it. Craig says something like “I haven’t either. No one has.” That actually got a few unexpected laughs from the almost-empty Manhattan theater.
Knives Out turned out to be a much smaller, less complicated movie than I’d imagined. But still amusing.
You left out the funniest line: When Daniel Craig’s detective alludes to Gravity’s Rainbow and explains that it’s a novel by Thomas Pynchon, the heroine admits, somewhat apologetically, that she’s never read it. Craig says something like “I haven’t either. No one has.” That actually got a few unexpected laughs from the almost-empty Manhattan theater.Replies: @Steve Sailer
I had a sense that Rian Johnson could make a funnier movie if he wasn’t so scared of being cancelled.
I saw the previews for this multiple times and it looked stupid. I went to see it because of its good reviews and it was better than the preview. Daniel Craigs’ Southern accent is terrible. The plot twists are a bit too cute for my taste.
Ana de Armas was good. She has light brown or hazel eyes and they light up her face in every shot she is in. There’s some gratuitous “do what we say or we’ll deport your mamacita” stuff I could have done without.
Bottom line: wait until it’s available at Redbox for $1.50.
However, though it’s common to say “Asian” to mean race, no one would just say “African” to mean black. Or “European” to mean white. Though “Hispanic” by itself is a racial term like “Asian”.
It’s safer to just add “-American” to all of those, then we can be consistent.
Then there’s “Indian”, which should be unambiguously the subcontinental “dot”, since “feather” is “Native”.
Then there’s “Australian”, which should be for so-called aborigines. Consistency requires that Crocodile Dundee be called a “European-Australian”.
A native (aborigine) Australian immigrant would be an “Australian-American”, but Mel Gibson should be referred to as a “European-Australian-American”.
There. That’s all settled then!Replies: @Reg Cæsar
No, he’s a Hibernian-American-Australian-American.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peekskill,_New_York#Notable_people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Vision,_New_York
Daniel Craig had a dialog coach in Knives Out. Maybe he was English too.
This same genius Parcak has proclaimed the UK election result to be a victory for Vladimir Putin (I tried to post it and it got eaten).
Both of her.
It's a living, I guess.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
Michael Shannon was hilarious in Elvis and Nixon and good in The Iceman.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2093991/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_25
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1491044/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_43
Interesting statistic about world homicides. And yet all of the demographical geniuses on here will swear all the murders in the US are committed by blacks and not a one by Hispanics, despite the obvious evidence to the contrary.
And hispanic murderers get subsumed into the 'white' total by the DoJ/FBI. For some reason.
http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/black-germansblack-dutch-african-genes-in-germania/
Birth Name: Alicia Amanda Vikander
Place of Birth: Gothenburg, Västra Götalands län, Sweden
Date of Birth: 3 October, 1988
Ethnicity: Swedish, small amount of Finnish, distant Baltic German
https://ethnicelebs.com/alicia-vikander
If all female Latin immigrants looked like Ana de Armas (i.e. “White Hispanic”) then I’d be all for open borders.
Hubba hubba!
Some Danish farm girl named Solveig Hansen is right in line with the Hungarian Barbara Palvin when it comes to CLASSIC BEAUTY.
That Vikander broad looks like Vin Diesel and that Armas lady looks like Paul Rudd after getting stung in the lower face by a bee.
https://twitter.com/SI_Swimsuit/status/1133025078550122497
https://twitter.com/SI_Swimsuit/status/1111659335380283393Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Anonymous
I knew it!!!
Not all, but many. UNZ commenters have such incredibly high standards of feminine beauty it’s obvious they have no relationships with real women at all, just pictures and Kleenex.
Latin America, home to 1/12th of the world’s population is responsible for 1/3rd of world homicides.
Citation needed.
I’m not that skeptical, given that Mexico has a large population and a really bad murder rate, but the linkage must be provided for future reference in other venues. Give me facts, please.
Mexican gun law is modeled on French law, and is essentially only applied to ordinary people. The cartels ran drugs and guns into Mexico for years. I would not be surprised if there aren’t still East German AK’s down there that were forwarded from Cuba to El Salvador that just “got lost” and wound up in Guerrero.
Best American accent by a Brit? The late Alan Rickman, of course.
Hans Gruber meets John McClane. Do I have to provide a language warning on a Die Hard clip?
This clip is on topic because Christmas!
Speaking of the knife…) it’s as if revolutions and displacement are for naught, because – human nature being what it is – the new boss will be the same as the old boss.
Even the common people of Latin America know what’s up (something, something…law and order…something, something…).
It is as if the casting director relied more the text of Wikipedia than on what his own eyes told him, which is a very modern malady.
FWIW, Wiki says Vikander and Fassbinder reside Portugal.Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Oikeamielinen
What do you fancy Lapps to look like?
It’s amusing that Steve, of all people, is guessing about Vikander’s roots as somehow unusual.
Northern Europeans have the full hair-eye-skin colour palet, from olive skin/brown hair/brown eyes to Irish skin/platinum blond/blue eyes. There are tons of Germanics and Scandinavians with dark brown hair, brown eyes and non-Irish skin. You really don’t need to be Jewish, Spanish, Greek or Arab to look like that. I think this idea of people of non-blond/blue eyes/Irish skin not being Northern Europeans is getting stronger, because of all the globalization and immigration. Not all Northern Europeans look like Dolph Lundgren, Rutger Hauer, Pamela Anderson or Margot Robbie. Even yesterday I talked to a Brit with brown eyes, dark hair and olive skin. These people exist – and there are not just a few of them.
The same is happening with people who don’t have surnames stereotypically associated with the particular European country. They often get asked about their origin. It creates an idealized form of who’s in and who’s not?
Place of Birth: Gothenburg, Västra Götalands län, Sweden
Date of Birth: 3 October, 1988
Ethnicity: Swedish, small amount of Finnish, distant Baltic German
https://ethnicelebs.com/alicia-vikanderReplies: @BB753
Maria Dahl is Alicia Vikander’s mother. Go to her Wikipedia page. She used to be an actress too. There are plenty of pictures of her around.
No mention of Jewish ancestry.....Replies: @BB753
Agree: Johann Ricke
Except for Whiskey. He’s a George Clooney level swordsman.
https://www.shamustown.com/timeline.html
Simplified version (leaving out brief trips, etc):
US: 1888-1900
UK:1900-1912
US:1912-1917
1917-1919: Service in Europe with the Canadian Army
1919-1955: US
1955-1959: Back-and-forth between the USA and UK
Wodehouse is trickier (I can’t find a convenient timeline for him), but, looking at his WIKIPEDIA bio, we get a first visit to the US in 1904….then a second visit in 1909….repeated trips to NY between 1910 and 1914….1914-1918 was spent in NY…..returns to UK approx 1920….but makes repeated trips to NY for protracted stays….Period in Hollywood (1929-1931)….During the ’30s continues his habit of jaunting back-and-forth between UK and USA before settling in France…Stuck in France during the War….in US from 1946 to his death in 1975….
Chandler on the hardboiled school of detective fiction:http://www.en.utexas.edu/Classes/Bremen/e316k/316kprivate/scans/chandlerart.html
-Raymond Chandler, "The Simple Art of Murder"Replies: @Rob McX, @Mr McKenna
Hope this doesn’t embarrass you–I know I’ve sung your praises before–but the simple fact is that I never tire of reading your posts. Live long and prosper.
The RT version of Steve’s review isn’t too bad, everything considered.
I saw it today. I thought that if it wasn’t for its relentless pro-illegal immigration propaganda throughout, it would have been a pretty good movie. Ana de Armas as the latino nurse is a standout. Plummer as the family patriarch is terrific as well. And the large cast playing the large family is pretty good in playing rotten people. Only Daniel Craig as the detective is off with his overacting
Citation needed.
I'm not that skeptical, given that Mexico has a large population and a really bad murder rate, but the linkage must be provided for future reference in other venues. Give me facts, please.
Mexican gun law is modeled on French law, and is essentially only applied to ordinary people. The cartels ran drugs and guns into Mexico for years. I would not be surprised if there aren't still East German AK's down there that were forwarded from Cuba to El Salvador that just "got lost" and wound up in Guerrero.Replies: @Anonymous
There are. If you are in good with the right people you can own anything, up to and including “la cincuenta”. That’s a .50 Browning heavy machine gun. Ordinary Mexicans can own guns but there are restrictions. As in France,Italy and most of South America and colonial Africa, no military calibers.
American Jews are the worst in this. They promote the supposed virtues of Latinos a lot, but their knowledge of the region and its people is really little more than knowing what "buenos días" means or going to a Mexican restaurant. But what does it matter? All they want is cheaper maids, anyway.
Ana de Armas is practically Spanish, very little mestizo blood (if any). But her hair is not really blonde.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Ana_de_Armas_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpgReplies: @njguy73, @Jack D, @Lurker, @Jack D, @Andy
There almost no mestizos in Cuba as its Indians quickly died off soon after Columbus arrived. So in Cuba you have whites (most of the communist elite, like the Castro brothers are 100% Spanish), blacks and mulattos. I think the gorgeous Ana is probably 100% of Spanish ancestry as well (of note, she moved to Spain at 18 and in the movies she made in Spain she speaks with a perfect Spanish accent, which is difficult for Latin Americans to do)
https://www.panix.com/~dangelo/bygrade.html
Here’s Vikander’s maternal ancestry:
https://ethnicelebs.com/alicia-vikander
No mention of Jewish ancestry…..
In any case, Maria Dahl is pretty dark for a Swede (even for a French woman or any European woman thousands of miles South from Scandinavia), and has a funny nose. And her daughter more so.Replies: @syonredux
Northern Europeans have the full hair-eye-skin colour palet, from olive skin/brown hair/brown eyes to Irish skin/platinum blond/blue eyes. There are tons of Germanics and Scandinavians with dark brown hair, brown eyes and non-Irish skin. You really don’t need to be Jewish, Spanish, Greek or Arab to look like that. I think this idea of people of non-blond/blue eyes/Irish skin not being Northern Europeans is getting stronger, because of all the globalization and immigration. Not all Northern Europeans look like Dolph Lundgren, Rutger Hauer, Pamela Anderson or Margot Robbie. Even yesterday I talked to a Brit with brown eyes, dark hair and olive skin. These people exist – and there are not just a few of them.
The same is happening with people who don’t have surnames stereotypically associated with the particular European country. They often get asked about their origin. It creates an idealized form of who’s in and who’s not?Replies: @Oikeamielinen
Well stated.
Further, one should realize that the fixation with the Nordic look is actually a queer Communist thing that somehow filtrated down from the Aryan race fantasies of two centuries ago. It seems that the queer Communist boy who recites the Aryan race canard has attended “universlytee” and his academic achievement starts and ends with them.
An interesting study could be made of a French count, Arthur de Gobineau, and his doctrine of a master race, and an Austrian count, Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi, and his race-mixing policy. The Kalergi plan is what European governments are presently executing with zeal and Lord help you if you fail to praise its excellence.
No mention of Jewish ancestry.....Replies: @BB753
Well, can we now safely guess a non-paternal event, perhaps the Kurdish milkman? LOL!
In any case, Maria Dahl is pretty dark for a Swede (even for a French woman or any European woman thousands of miles South from Scandinavia), and has a funny nose. And her daughter more so.
In any case, Maria Dahl is pretty dark for a Swede (even for a French woman or any European woman thousands of miles South from Scandinavia), and has a funny nose. And her daughter more so.Replies: @syonredux
Dunno. I’ve certainly seen French people who are darker than Vikander’s mother:
And her nose nose looks perfectly normal.
That sounds like the American equivalent of Bertie Wooster-speech
I don't believe that the average, which is 5%, would have a significant impact on phenotype given that North Africans are Caucasoid.
Also, history does not begin with one event. The Moors may loom heavy, but there was history before them. The Romans added a great deal of North African to the Southern half (and perhaps the west) during their stay, as well as East Med (and to themselves, as a study recently showed, that Republic Romans were North Italian like, while Imperial Romans were more like Sicilians). Also, you forget the Carthaginians and the Phoneticians -both North African civilizations- colonized the SE of the peninsula.
They all left their print on the peninsula, and the natives from those areas, were already part North African before the Moors even showed up, testing as high as 17%.
A study recently showed that the expulsion of the Moors actually lowered this North African component by a significant amount, going from almost 50% in the south (after the occupation) to less than 5% in the same area. Given that the North African component was testing in the teens before the Moors even landed, the results of the Moorish occupation may have ironically reduced our overall North African component as opposed to increasing it.Replies: @Autochthon
The Phoenicians came from Asia; they colonised Africa, but calling them an African civilisation is like calling the Romans an Aftican civilisation….
I stand by my theory : non-parental event. Marrying an actress is a worse decision than marrying a whore.
Barring DNA, that can’t be ruled out, but I wouldn’t bet on it.
I think they would swear that about half the homicides in the US are committed by blacks.
And hispanic murderers get subsumed into the ‘white’ total by the DoJ/FBI. For some reason.