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A rare success story from the once fashionable era of billionaire-funded Education Reform efforts was the KIPP chain of charter schools. The point of KIPP was to offer volunteers schools that train poor students the way the military does: with an emphasis on order, character-building, and repetition in the fundamentals. KIPP never sold itself as a panacea. Instead, it was an option available for underclass kids willing to do the work to develop lower middle class habits. From my review of historian Raymond Wolters’ 2015 book The Long Crusade:

A few reformers have actually done some good, usually by undoing the work of past gurus. Perhaps the most appealing figures in The Long Crusade are Mike Feinberg and Dave Levin, who founded the KIPP charter-school chain in 1994 to offer discipline, hard work, and back-to-basics schooling to the fairly small percentage of slum students serious about earning a way out of the hood. Good kids deserve some breaks in life, such as getting to go to a school without a bunch of layabouts and knuckleheads.

Some of the success of KIPP is due to reviving many of the techniques of public order and respect used by schools before the ascendance of progressive education ideology in the late 1960s.

Thus, KIPP’s slogan was, “Work hard. Be Nice.”

But, it’s 2020, so all good things must come to an end. From KIPP.org:

Retiring “Work hard. Be nice.” as KIPP’s national slogan
Wednesday, July 1, 2020

After adopting a new mission and vision, we understood that Work hard. Be nice. needed to change; we needed to lift up a new national slogan. We learned many KIPP Regions had either passively stopped using it or were actively removing it from their schools. …

Feedback on the slogan falls into a few buckets:

  • Working hard and being nice is not going to dismantle systemic racism. For example, in the words of student performers at KIPP School Summit: “I’ve been told I should just work hard and be nice. That it’ll pay off in the end. I’ve worked hard and I’ve been nice but the nice guys finish last.”
  • It suggests being compliant and submissive. For example, in the words of an alum: “Asking us to ‘be nice’ puts the onus on kids to be quiet, be compliant, be controlled. It doesn’t actively challenge us to disrupt the systems that are trying to control us.”
  • It supports the illusion of meritocracy. For example, in the words of Orpheus Williams who leads the Foundation’s equity programming: “The slogan passively supports ongoing efforts to pacify and control Black and Brown bodies in order to better condition them to be compliant and further reproduce current social norms that center whiteness and meritocracy as normal.”

Yeah, kind of … Alternatively, you might phrase it as KIPP was offering black children an opportunity to learn a culture that doesn’t lead to so goddam many mass shootings at funerals.

… We are replacing it. We are not going to rush this part. Aligned with our shared mission and vision, we know we need to lift up a slogan that better represents the tomorrow we are hoping to build, together. While the Foundation’s Marketing and Alumni Impact teams will facilitate the process, we want the new slogan to be designed by our students, alumni, and families. We will share more details on this effort when we have them.

Suggestions for a new KIPP slogan: “Goof off. Do crimes.” “Be like George Floyd.” “Ibram X. Kendi for Philosopher-King.”

 
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  1. Being nice leads to White Supremacy.

    Or it might be the other way around, I forget.

    Meanwhile..

    • Replies: @Dago Shoes
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    … and, worst of all, if they don't vote for Bidet … they ain't black.

    , @El Dato
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    The email shows that "Democracy" has reached terminal dogma status. It's like "Gluten Free".

    https://community.expensify.com/discussion/7632/protect-democracy-vote-for-biden

    Remember kids: Keep it clean! Too much CNN is bad for you.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @AndrewR
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    (((Democracy))) in 2020 is defined as inherently good for the Jews. Anything that's bad for them is undemocratic.

    Replies: @Francis Miville

    , @profnasty
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Let's consider Expensify the 'Spoils of War.'

    , @guest
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    A vote against democracy, you say? Hmm.

    Wait a minute. [Does doubletake.] Vote...democracy. Don't those two have something to do with eachother?

  2. Blacks will always disappoint.

  3. The whole point of charter schools was to literally whip the shit out of kids who talked like this because their single moms wouldn’t or couldn’t. I’m really not exaggerating, the unstated mission of charter schools was to be a kind of adoptive disciplinarian father, which was also the reason for their relative success.

    To say they’ve abandoned their mission here would be a gross understatement; like everything else converged, they’ve actually inverted their mission.

    • Agree: NickG
  4. So, does Ibram X. Kendi really have a 2-digit I.Q.? Or was that just an excellent zinger? If it’s the former, I would like to reference it as often as possible.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @JimDandy

    "Ibram was a bright but underachieving senior at his Northern Virginia high school. His GPA was below 3.0; his SAT scores were just above 1000. He thought he wasn’t smart enough for college, even though he had been admitted to historically black Florida A&M University."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2019/10/14/anti-racist-revelations-ibram-x-kendi/?arc404=true

    I'd probably guess that score around 1999 converts to a 100-105 IQ, but it could well be 99.

    Replies: @John Milton’s Ghost, @ScarletNumber, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    , @Truth
    @JimDandy

    If he does, Jimbo, you're going to need to start working harder...


    Boston University's Ibram X. Kendi, whose book has jockeyed with DiAngelo's on the bestseller list, charges $150 for tickets to public events and $25,000 for a one-hour presentation, his representatives told the Free Beacon. Former Atlantic writer Ta-Nehisi Coates has charged between $30,000 and $40,000 for public lectures.
     
    https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2020/07/how-get-rich-calling-americans-racist-daniel-greenfield/

    https://peopleai.com/fame/identities/ibram-x-kendi
  5. A KIPP teacher showed up 2 years ago to pick up a book case I offered on a Free Cycle website. She was picking up free items and selling them on Craigslist to get money for her classes.

  6. How about “Hands up, don’t shoot?”

    • LOL: MBlanc46
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Daniel Williams

    Or

    "Work shambolically, be niggardly."

  7. Black kids are getting sabotaged.

    It’s a damn shame.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Not Raul

    It’s not that much of a loss. Education Realist has written some superb stuff exposing KIPP for juking it’s stats and stealing the best blacks/hispanics from low-ability public schools.

    https://media.glassdoor.com/sqll/389177/kipp-nyc-squarelogo.png

    My favorite is “White kids don’t do KIPP.”

    https://educationrealist.wordpress.com/2014/07/24/parents-and-schools/

    Replies: @vhrm

  8. I suggest “Thug Life” for the new motto. If it’s not that, it will be something like. And of course the motto doesn’t matter other than as a signpost on the road to total collapse of KIPP.

    And we have another example of Conquest’s Second Law: Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing.

    • Agree: jimmyriddle
  9. to pacify and control Black and Brown bodies in order to better condition them to be compliant and further reproduce

    We want them to reproduce? News to me.

    Working hard and being nice is not going to dismantle systemic racism.

    “Work hard” and “be nice” are standards. Standards are racist. (They are. Think about it.)

    Holding young people to standards will not dismantle systemic racism. It is systemic racism!

    • Agree: bruce county
    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Reg Cæsar

    wait until full war on Pedos! Many people, here, on Unz, need to wake up. Digital warriors of no regional bounds, hate pedos and will go after them. So many of you are on their systems. Good Bye, hahaaaa. Pedos need to be arrested and, well, destroyed. I would like public hangings or burning pedos at the stake... that's my Halloween spirit. Diddling with kids is wrong. F*cking and torturing kids is wrong.

  10. Alternatively, you might phrase it as KIPP was offering black children an opportunity to learn a culture that doesn’t lead to so goddam many mass shootings at funerals.

    Yes, just because you have, on offer, a path to success, where the black children who follow it will be able to live a nice American middle-class lifestyle, with the scaffolding for their children to follow in their success, does not mean that you will not be classified as a vicious, rabid, insane Nazi-STD-infected-purveyor-of-unendorsed-Democrat-endorsed-pedophila for pointing out that solving the problems of the underclass is actually easy.

    Just check with Corvinus and Guy De Champ-Plag-Ne and they will confirm your status as an enemy-of-the-state(tm).

  11. Years ago, as I was about to go into a rage about some FU on a job, an old timer told me…”You know Joey, it’s nice to be nice.” Yeah, the old chestnuts about “Nice guys finish last” and “It is better to be feared than loved” are great ways to go through life. Well, “hard work is its own reward” and “it’s nice to nice” are of course just slogans but they’re not the worse thing you could tell some kid. Worse would be you don’t have a chance to succeed.

    • Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @Buffalo Joe


    "You know Joey, it’s nice to be nice."

     

    If someone said that to me, I'd slap him.

    Though, it's probably better than hearing, "Say, Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?" or "Have you ever seen an grown man naked?"

  12. Work Hard. Be Nice. = Beach diner work.


    • Thanks: ic1000
    • Replies: @jamie b.
    @Reg Cæsar

    I don't understand.

    Replies: @bruce county, @Reg Cæsar

  13. Part of the reason why “conservative” efforts at educational reform are bound to fail is that every teacher is trained at a university in an education department. Charter school teachers the same as public school ones, ditto private schools. Only private schools have some discretion in some states to hire outside education programs. These students are generally average IQ at best, and among the lowest scorers among all university degrees. And education departments are often places where scholars recycle watered down identity politics from lit and sociology. (Ed scholars publish a lot, but most of it is derivative and short, quantity trumping quality.)

    Yes BLM and the Great Awokening shifted things, but I imagine before that the teachers at the ground level at these schools softened and eroded whatever reasonable principles the institutions established.

    • Agree: SimpleSong
    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    Yes BLM and the Great Awokening shifted things, but I imagine before that the teachers at the ground level at these schools softened and eroded whatever reasonable principles the institutions established.

    Indeed. 'Personnel is policy' is as close to an iron law as there is.

  14. I think the new slogan needs to convey this idea:

    We want our beautiful black children to grow and develop into beautiful black adults and to thrive and reproduce without having to work and for the bullets to magically stop without us actually having to stop shooting and it’s all yt’s fault if it doesn’t happen.

    OR

    Superman must make it right.

  15. Suggestions for a new KIPP slogan:

    “Be Best, all you Blacks”

  16. Boston public exam schools drop admissions tests.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/21/metro/school-committee-debates-dropping-admissions-tests-citys-exam-schools-one-year

    Ibram X. Kendi in the Boston Globe :

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/22/opinion/transform-bostons-exam-schools-into-opportunity-schools

    There’s something wrong with the exam school tests — not with Black and Latinx children

    To tell the truth about standardized tests is to tell the story of the eugenicists who created and popularized these tests in the United States more than a century ago.

    By Ibram X. Kendi
    Updated October 22, 2020

    Why do Black and Latinx children routinely get lower scores on the standardized tests? Either there’s something wrong with the test takers or there’s something wrong with the tests. Why are Black and Latinx children routinely under-represented in the exam schools? Either there’s something wrong with Black and Latinx children or there’s something wrong with Boston’s admissions policies.

    There’s something wrong with the test and the admissions policies. And to say there’s something wrong with Black and Latinx children is to espouse racist ideas. And those who say racist ideas, typically deny their ideas are racist.

    This proposal can begin the process of transforming our high-quality exam schools into high-quality opportunity schools. Let’s call them that. Let’s make them opportunity schools.

    So… the rest of Boston’s public schools where the majority of kids go will officially be “anti-opportunity” schools? Kendi’s cool with that? Pretty callous.

    • Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    And those who say racist ideas, typically deny their ideas are racist.
     
    I just hate people who say racist ideas, don't you?

    Some of them tell me I shouldn't put a comma between the primary subject and verb in a sentence. So racist.

    Replies: @Lace

    , @Faraday's Bobcat
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Obvious solution: have the tests made up by an exclusively black committee.

    , @Calvin Hobbes
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Kendi in that article also writes:


    This is not about me or my child. My wife and I have the resources to one day sign her up for an expensive test-prep course, or hire a test-prep consultant. All the test prep will end up being money well spent: It will have boosted her score to get into an exam school.
     
    It would be interesting to see how well Kendi’s child would do on the exams after lots of test-prep. I seriously doubt that she’d be competitive with the smart kids.

    Kendi:

    I won’t tell you that across the United States test prep companies and consultants are concentrated in white and Asian neighborhoods. Because we’re not supposed to talk about all this. We’re not supposed to be talking about the fact that all Boston children do not have equal access to high-quality test preparation — and it’s impossible to create equal access. We’re not supposed to talk about all this legal cheating.
     
    Blacks do plenty of test-prep, though not as intensively as the Asians.

    The SAT, Test Prep, Income and Race

    https://marginalrevolution.com/?s=Test+prep

    The third fact is that test prep varies by race in the opposite way that people imagine. In the quote above, Chris Hayes suggests that whites use test prep much more than blacks. In fact, blacks use test prep more than whites, as is well documented among education researchers (e.g. here, here, here), e.g. from the first link:

    …blacks and Hispanics are more likely than whites from comparable backgrounds to utilize test preparation. The black-white gap is especially pronounced in the use of high school courses, private courses and private tutors.

    Indeed, since blacks use test prep more than whites and blacks have lower SAT scores than whites the effect of test prep is to reduce not increase the black-white gap in scores. Of course, the net reduction in the gap is small.
     
    I don’t think that Kendi is the least bit bothered by facts that conflict with his claims.
  17. Suggestions for a new KIPP slogan: “confirm your stereotype!”

  18. Dalton has something to say about that:

  19. “Nice Guys Finish Last”, like the man said

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Dennis Dale

    I do wonder if that's intentional trolling. Reminds me of the time Korean War POWs told the Norks the middle finger was the "Hawaiian good luck sign."

    Replies: @Kronos

    , @duncsbaby
    @Dennis Dale

    I used to try to be nice but now just shoot for superficially pleasant. What more does anyone want?

  20. It supports the illusion of meritocracy. . . . The slogan passively supports ongoing efforts to pacify and control Black and Brown bodies in order to better condition them to be compliant and further reproduce current social norms that center whiteness and meritocracy as normal.

    This is like those PSAs that tried to make smoking seem uncool to teenagers by telling them that it is playing into the hands of evil Big Tobacco. Except this is telling black kids that being smart and having “merit” is totally uncool because that’s exactly what Big Whiteness wants them to do.

    I am sure that will end well. Heck, maybe that’s the message that got all the Korean kids to score so well at math.

  21. It doesn’t actively challenge us to disrupt the systems that are trying to control us.

    If only we taught blacks more conspiracy theories about how the system is trying to keep them down, and hard work and good behavior isn’t going to pay off, then things will definitively improve for them. Heavens forbid they try to be more like Nigerian immigrants. All this disrupting of systems since the 60s has definitively been good for black inner cities and black families.

    I know all this has already been said before, but what hasn’t already been said on this topic?

  22. The news cycle is so fast that this story seems like months ago, but it was less than a week ago you posted the story about the San Diego Unified School District lowering its standards. This story goes along with that one.

    It’s almost as if their administrators have no grounding in actual educational research. There is a theory called Habits of Mind that you want to develop in children. Having students do homework consistently is good for its own sake. It’s like athletes lifting weights even though they aren’t professional weight lifters. SDUSD wants students to pass classes even though they don’t do any of the homework until the end of the marking period, without realizing that for the vast majority of students, they won’t be able to pass without having developed those Habits of Mind throughout their school careers.

    Now, if teachers could give the students the poor grades they actually deserve, it wouldn’t be an issue, but there is pressure to have your grading distribution fit a certain curve.

  23. @Reg Cæsar
    Work Hard. Be Nice. = Beach diner work.


    https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/08/d3/b5/47/beach-diner-bar.jpg

    https://www.ameliaisland.com/getattachment/Eat-and-Drink/Beach-Diner/EatandDrink_BeachDiner_sign1100.jpg


    https://b.zmtcdn.com/data/pictures/1/17763141/a89ffa45d4f9b59b40f4f454e96d2988_featured_v2.jpg

    Replies: @jamie b.

    I don’t understand.

    • Replies: @bruce county
    @jamie b.

    Some days it's very hard to get inside the mind of the Mensa Man.
    I like his full comments better.
    Grease car young man.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @jamie b.

    They're implying that working hard and being nice only suits future burger flippers. Not revolutionaries. So "beach diner work" is an apt anagram, isn't it?

  24. On Topic – this video popped up under yt recommended videos. Basically, a young gullible white woman explores the reasons why a 15 year old black male killed his white foster mother with a hatchet and then set her on fire.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Mike Tre

    It seems the foster mother was black, but no less saintly for that.

    Pseudo*-journalist and Whiskey-vindicator Jennifer Toth writes about Good Boy Who Dindu Nuffin, Johnnie Jordan, who did murder his foster mother in cold blood for no discernible reason despite liking her. Although he is a murderer, Jennifer grants her subject's every premise (and with the foster parents dead and gone, who is there to gainsay him?). The then 30-to-35-year-old and apparently childless Jennifer spent weeks at a time for five years visiting the then 16-to-21-year-old Johnnie and still talks with him at least weekly even though the book is done, which is to say, more time than a lot women spend with their boyfriends and possibly more time than Jennifer spent with her husband. "Why did you write the book?" asks the interviewer, perhaps sensing the obvious. "That's a difficult question to answer," evades Jennifer. I'll bet it is.

    The publication of Jennifer's book causes 42-year-old single mother of two and Whiskey-vindicator Pamela Smith to get in touch and fall in love with Johnnie. She moves her family from California to Toledo Ohio to be close to "the love of her life". She also makes the www.supportjohnnie.com website to spring him from jail and make it harder convict guys like him. Also, she's got needs.


    "You know, a lot of people are critical of our relationship because he's an inmate and they say inmates tend to pimp women with their words; use them for whatever they can get," Ms. Smith said.
     
    Well, at least someone's explained it to her. Of course, it doesn't apply in her case.

    "Johnnie is genuine; he's authentic." The Johnnie she knows calls her house each night to check on her children and orders stuffed animals and flowers for her from catalogs. And he choked up when her children belted out "Happy Birthday" to him inside the prison's visiting room. He's the Johnnie who helps her 13-year-old daughter with multiplication tables and makes bets with her 9-year-old son - loser buys a pop - over sports teams.
     
    Maybe it's a bad idea to involve your children with a convicted murderer?

    It took her a year to ask Jordan about the murder. She sighs: "I can't fathom him doing something like that."
     
    Ho-kaaay.

    Anyhow, sometime around 2006, or shortly after this Toledo Blade story came out, the supportjohnnie website went offline. Did the bloom come off the Johnnie+Pamela rose, or did Johnnie just move on? The Toledo Blade story was written by Robin Erb, who describes her reporting as "the intersection of public policy and health", yet her most prominent stories all seem to be about murders and sex.

    tldr: Pulling at the thread of a random video unravels a trail of middle aged white women indulging in jungle fever, which through the magic of the Fake News Machine gets laundered into human interest stories about unjust conviction and the hope of prison reform.

    The rot goes deep and has been festering a long time.

    ------

    * Years ago I happened to read—or tried to read—her first (1993) book, The Mole People, about the supposedly thousands of homeless people living in subterranean cities beneath Manhattan, in a sort updated liberal's version of the Hollow Earth-type science fiction, which at the time sparked a minor moral panic about the poor neglected Troglodyte-Americans. (This was of course before the modern view came into vogue that dispossessed white-ish people living underground in fear and agony was a good thing.) Going through the book, it quickly became apparent to me the book was, at best, confabulations, even while the respectable press treated her to glowing reviews interspersed with virtue-signalling cries to "do something" about people who mostly didn't exist. (According to Wiki, Jennifer Toth is a "British journalist" but Toth is a Hungarian name, so she might descend from 1933-ish émigrés.)
  25. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Boston public exam schools drop admissions tests.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/21/metro/school-committee-debates-dropping-admissions-tests-citys-exam-schools-one-year

    Ibram X. Kendi in the Boston Globe :

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/22/opinion/transform-bostons-exam-schools-into-opportunity-schools

    There’s something wrong with the exam school tests — not with Black and Latinx children

    To tell the truth about standardized tests is to tell the story of the eugenicists who created and popularized these tests in the United States more than a century ago.

    By Ibram X. Kendi
    Updated October 22, 2020
     

    Why do Black and Latinx children routinely get lower scores on the standardized tests? Either there’s something wrong with the test takers or there’s something wrong with the tests. Why are Black and Latinx children routinely under-represented in the exam schools? Either there’s something wrong with Black and Latinx children or there’s something wrong with Boston’s admissions policies.

    There’s something wrong with the test and the admissions policies. And to say there’s something wrong with Black and Latinx children is to espouse racist ideas. And those who say racist ideas, typically deny their ideas are racist.
     

    This proposal can begin the process of transforming our high-quality exam schools into high-quality opportunity schools. Let’s call them that. Let’s make them opportunity schools.
     
    So… the rest of Boston’s public schools where the majority of kids go will officially be “anti-opportunity” schools? Kendi’s cool with that? Pretty callous.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Faraday's Bobcat, @Calvin Hobbes

    And those who say racist ideas, typically deny their ideas are racist.

    I just hate people who say racist ideas, don’t you?

    Some of them tell me I shouldn’t put a comma between the primary subject and verb in a sentence. So racist.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Lace
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    I'm sure somebody's said it somewhere, and maybe a lot of places and times, but if there's racist sentence structure that threatens all that vitality, then will we told to switch to 'ax'--I won't ever have to, becoming more racist by the day (wouldn't go up to Madison Park and watch the 'fun thing' the BLMers and a drag queen were going--I had axed a young white-ally couple this; they said it wasn't dangerous, so I took the short cut route.) I don't know if I've ever heard, long before this intense version of all this shit has come to be, of anyone correcting people (and there are plenty of low-class whites who say it--greys, I guess) who say it in English classes. I'm not a schoolteacher but I bet some have run into this. Surely, there must be many who've corrected it. If it comes from casual commerce at a Rite-Aid, etc., I won't correct it, so I don't personally ever have to, and wouldn't anyway in a more or less innocuous encounter--I've done enough mission work.

    So will the work ask be considered anti-white enough to be suppressed?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Lace

  26. A new adaptation of Dahl’s The Witches is on HBO MAX. Vox is not happy…..

    Roald Dahl is one of the most celebrated children’s authors who ever lived. But he was also indisputably one of the most bigoted. He was a profound anti-Semite, perpetuating anti-Semitic tropes and falsehoods — like that of Jewish people controlling the economy and the publishing industry. In 1983, Dahl, then 67, told The New Statesman that Jewish people “provoke animosity” and blamed them for being too “submissive” to fight back during the Holocaust. “I mean, there’s always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere,” he said. “Even a stinker like Hitler didn’t just pick on them for no reason.”

    Dahl has also been widely read as a misogynistic writer, in large part due to the openly misogynistic theme of The Witches, in which women are literally demonized for dressing up, feminizing their appearances, and framed as monsters lurking inside seemingly sweet and complacent disguises. They’re also coded as anti-Semitic, with large, hooked noses, reptilian features, a ready stash of mysterious cash, and a plot to take over the world and kill children, all tropes derived from longstanding anti-Semitic conspiracies.

    Yet Zemeckis’s version of The Witches seems to offer nothing whatsoever to attempt to remedy the embedded issues in Dahl’s original writing.

    The anti-Semitism Dahl himself professed doesn’t necessarily play a role in most of his other works, but it’s directly relevant to The Witches, a story that’s explicitly about detecting imposters in the midst of society. This is, to be blunt, the theme of most anti-Semitic conspiracies throughout history, and has led in its most extreme form to the idea that Jewish people “hide” in plain sight while essentially controlling the world.

    In The Witches, witches hide in plain sight by disguising themselves as ordinary women — but the tells that give them away are also coded as anti-Semitic: they’re bald beneath their wigs, have reptile-like hands and feet, and have noses that expand when they sniff out children. The grand high witch also speaks with a German accent, one that can easily pass for Yiddish.

    The 1990 film unfortunately perpetuated all of these traits, and I hoped that Zemeckis’s version would take pains to shift its witches far away from this stereotype. But it’s not clear if any attempt was made to remove the story’s discriminatory bits. At least the hooked noses are gone. Even so, there’s a lot of anti-Semitic coding ported over, especially when you’re also trying to signal a commitment to diversity by casting Black actors (and an entirely atonal Chris Rock as narrator) to deliver this story. It seems as though zero forethought or even insight went into the portrayal of the witches; and honestly, perhaps this movie needed to hire a culture critic as a consultant in order to save it from itself.

    https://www.vox.com/culture/21526708/the-witches-movie-2020-review-roald-dahl-antisemitism

    • Replies: @John Derbyshire
    @syonredux

    Private Eye magazine once ran a spoof subscription ad so readers could buy an "n" for Roald Dahl.

    , @John Milton’s Ghost
    @syonredux

    Fascinating tidbits and motive buried under the heavy handed analysis. “An entirely atonal Chris Rock” is presented as further sign of the racial problems of this portrayal: that the makers throw a lot of black actors in to signal diversity. Atonal is apparently problematic, because it isn’t “black”—unless the reviewer is complaining that the makers do so well not stereotyping blacks like Chris even as they demonize Jews. Chris Rock fully tonal seems to be a minstrel show caricature, to me.

    Dahl was one of the most fairy tale influenced writers of the children’s genre. There’s a dark underbelly in his work similar to the original Grimms, in which peasants recorded real dangers to their traditional lives, coded as magic and the fantastic. No doubt he’s problematic to everyone today since we are told that danger from the wealthy or politicians or people of color are only signs of one’s bigotry and stupidity, rather than received wisdom and common sense.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Peterike, @SFG

    , @SFG
    @syonredux

    Jews have reptile hands and feet?

    A *German* accent is antisemitic?

    They're reaching. They're really reaching.

    , @Nicholas Stix
    @syonredux

    Having skimmed the extensive excerpt you re-posted, and having skimmed the original, I can say that I wouldn’t take this Aja Romano character’s word for anything.

    “… perhaps this movie needed to hire a culture critic as a consultant in order to save it from itself.”
    Aja Romano, Vox

    I have no doubt that the suits at HBO did indeed have a diversity commissar rule on the script, as on every script, which is why the movie was blackified.

    So, the commissars ruined the story, yet Aja Romano is still complaining? You got the world you wanted, whatever you are, so what is your complaint?

    We need to revive a saying from the 1960s—“People who won’t take ‘yes’ for an answer.”

    , @AndrewR
    @syonredux

    Roald Dahl wasn't nearly anti-Semitic enough. He allowed himself to be used as a sex toy for an American high society slut Clare Booth Luce, who was in an open marriage with the media mega-magnate Henry Luce, in order to win her (and thus Henry) over to the (((British))) position towards Germany.

    Her many other lovers included JFK's dad and Winston Churchill's son Randolph.

    Replies: @Dissident

    , @Steve in Greensboro
    @syonredux

    Here's a trailer from the Roeg-Henson 1990 original movie. Lower vibrancy quotient.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_ZyqaN_XNM

    Replies: @syonredux

    , @anon
    @syonredux

    I've always thought the Gringots in the Harry Potter movies are caricatures of Jews: short people with big noses, ugly, balding, run the banks, love money and treasures, cater to both sides to maximize profit just like Jews traditionally in warring Europe prior to WWII. Maybe that's why JK Rowlings is being raked over the coals these days, i.e. it ain't about the trannies, it's payback time for the Gringots.

    Replies: @syonredux, @SFG

  27. anon[307] • Disclaimer says:

    Meanwhile children of the elite’s are safe in their exclusive private academies, actually learning while n0n-wealthy students of all races who want to learn, but are stuffed in public schools, have yet more obstacles thrown in their way.

    Coincidence? Nah, its on purpose.

    My little theory Ive never seen expounded, even by Steve Sailer:

    Busing ruined much of our industrial competitiveness.

    Yes, you read that right. You see, white people moving into larger houses out in ring suburban counties that poor black people couldn’t afford made those same white people ask for raises at their jobs, which they got in the 1970s. Big Corporations realized they could pay much less overseas, so we ended up de-industrializing. It hurt our competitiveness. I can’t tell you how many Nashville private schools have a 1969 start date, but its got to be at least 4 or 5. People who couldn’t afford it beat feet out to the ring counties. I wonder how many millions of gallons of gasoline have been spent commuting from ring counties to urban counties since 1969? There would be a whole lot more oil still in the ground………

  28. @syonredux
    A new adaptation of Dahl's The Witches is on HBO MAX. Vox is not happy.....

    Roald Dahl is one of the most celebrated children’s authors who ever lived. But he was also indisputably one of the most bigoted. He was a profound anti-Semite, perpetuating anti-Semitic tropes and falsehoods — like that of Jewish people controlling the economy and the publishing industry. In 1983, Dahl, then 67, told The New Statesman that Jewish people “provoke animosity” and blamed them for being too “submissive” to fight back during the Holocaust. “I mean, there’s always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere,” he said. “Even a stinker like Hitler didn’t just pick on them for no reason.”
     

    Dahl has also been widely read as a misogynistic writer, in large part due to the openly misogynistic theme of The Witches, in which women are literally demonized for dressing up, feminizing their appearances, and framed as monsters lurking inside seemingly sweet and complacent disguises. They’re also coded as anti-Semitic, with large, hooked noses, reptilian features, a ready stash of mysterious cash, and a plot to take over the world and kill children, all tropes derived from longstanding anti-Semitic conspiracies.
     

    Yet Zemeckis’s version of The Witches seems to offer nothing whatsoever to attempt to remedy the embedded issues in Dahl’s original writing.
     

    The anti-Semitism Dahl himself professed doesn’t necessarily play a role in most of his other works, but it’s directly relevant to The Witches, a story that’s explicitly about detecting imposters in the midst of society. This is, to be blunt, the theme of most anti-Semitic conspiracies throughout history, and has led in its most extreme form to the idea that Jewish people “hide” in plain sight while essentially controlling the world.
     

    In The Witches, witches hide in plain sight by disguising themselves as ordinary women — but the tells that give them away are also coded as anti-Semitic: they’re bald beneath their wigs, have reptile-like hands and feet, and have noses that expand when they sniff out children. The grand high witch also speaks with a German accent, one that can easily pass for Yiddish.
     

    The 1990 film unfortunately perpetuated all of these traits, and I hoped that Zemeckis’s version would take pains to shift its witches far away from this stereotype. But it’s not clear if any attempt was made to remove the story’s discriminatory bits. At least the hooked noses are gone. Even so, there’s a lot of anti-Semitic coding ported over, especially when you’re also trying to signal a commitment to diversity by casting Black actors (and an entirely atonal Chris Rock as narrator) to deliver this story. It seems as though zero forethought or even insight went into the portrayal of the witches; and honestly, perhaps this movie needed to hire a culture critic as a consultant in order to save it from itself.
     
    https://www.vox.com/culture/21526708/the-witches-movie-2020-review-roald-dahl-antisemitism

    Replies: @John Derbyshire, @John Milton’s Ghost, @SFG, @Nicholas Stix, @AndrewR, @Steve in Greensboro, @anon

    Private Eye magazine once ran a spoof subscription ad so readers could buy an “n” for Roald Dahl.

    • LOL: bruce county
  29. @Dennis Dale
    "Nice Guys Finish Last", like the man said

    Replies: @Anonymous, @duncsbaby

    I do wonder if that’s intentional trolling. Reminds me of the time Korean War POWs told the Norks the middle finger was the “Hawaiian good luck sign.”

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Anonymous

    I’m sure it’s historically happened before...

    https://youtu.be/DqEgMLDS5CM

  30. It supports the illusion of meritocracy. For example, in the words of Orpheus Williams who leads the Foundation’s equity programming: “The slogan passively supports ongoing efforts to pacify and control Black and Brown bodies in order to better condition them to be compliant and further reproduce current social norms that center whiteness and meritocracy as normal.”

    I just want to punch myself in the face for reading that.

    • Agree: V. Hickel, slumber_j
  31. Students should emulate Orpheus Williams and strive for a job like “Senior Director Equity Programs.”

    I wonder if Orpheus’s parents were Tennessee Williams fans? He looks about 30, and that would coincide with a certain Broadway theatrical revival.

  32. @JimDandy
    So, does Ibram X. Kendi really have a 2-digit I.Q.? Or was that just an excellent zinger? If it's the former, I would like to reference it as often as possible.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Truth

    “Ibram was a bright but underachieving senior at his Northern Virginia high school. His GPA was below 3.0; his SAT scores were just above 1000. He thought he wasn’t smart enough for college, even though he had been admitted to historically black Florida A&M University.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2019/10/14/anti-racist-revelations-ibram-x-kendi/?arc404=true

    I’d probably guess that score around 1999 converts to a 100-105 IQ, but it could well be 99.

    • Thanks: JimDandy
    • Replies: @John Milton’s Ghost
    @Steve Sailer

    That article is fascinating: In high school Kendi came to prominence in a public speaking competition in which he resurrected MLK, and ushered a jeremiad and exhortation that blacks be better. He notes his shame and embarrassment at ever uttering such evils, since telling blacks to learn about their past, not be violent, and achieve is not the epitome of Antiracism as Kendi demands it today.

    Since just under half of all American high school students enroll in college, and a 1000 is around the 40th percentile, I’d say it is highly likely Kendi is in the 90s for IQ. But given that he clearly has some verbal skills and thus may be slightly above average there, I suspect his mathematical and therefore reasoning and logic skills are far below average. People who can speak well but reason not at all are the greatest dangers to our society.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Possumman

    , @ScarletNumber
    @Steve Sailer

    Believe it or not, Temple, where he got his PhD, still has his dissertation on their website for your perusal. So, if you want to read 367 pages on The Black Campus Movement: An Afrocentric Narrative History of the Struggle to Diversify Higher Education, 1965-1972, here you go...

    https://digital.library.temple.edu/digital/collection/p245801coll10/id/55936

    At the time he received his PhD, his name was Ibram Henry Rogers; Kendi is the name he and his wife both took upon their marriage in 2013.

    Replies: @GLT

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Steve Sailer

    "Ibrahim ('s) test scores were just above 1000.... He thought he wasn't smart enough for college, even though he had been admitted to historically black..."

    So in other words, yeah, in fact he wasn't smart enough for college. Well, smart enough for Clown College, but not for real college.

  33. @jamie b.
    @Reg Cæsar

    I don't understand.

    Replies: @bruce county, @Reg Cæsar

    Some days it’s very hard to get inside the mind of the Mensa Man.
    I like his full comments better.
    Grease car young man.

  34. @syonredux
    A new adaptation of Dahl's The Witches is on HBO MAX. Vox is not happy.....

    Roald Dahl is one of the most celebrated children’s authors who ever lived. But he was also indisputably one of the most bigoted. He was a profound anti-Semite, perpetuating anti-Semitic tropes and falsehoods — like that of Jewish people controlling the economy and the publishing industry. In 1983, Dahl, then 67, told The New Statesman that Jewish people “provoke animosity” and blamed them for being too “submissive” to fight back during the Holocaust. “I mean, there’s always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere,” he said. “Even a stinker like Hitler didn’t just pick on them for no reason.”
     

    Dahl has also been widely read as a misogynistic writer, in large part due to the openly misogynistic theme of The Witches, in which women are literally demonized for dressing up, feminizing their appearances, and framed as monsters lurking inside seemingly sweet and complacent disguises. They’re also coded as anti-Semitic, with large, hooked noses, reptilian features, a ready stash of mysterious cash, and a plot to take over the world and kill children, all tropes derived from longstanding anti-Semitic conspiracies.
     

    Yet Zemeckis’s version of The Witches seems to offer nothing whatsoever to attempt to remedy the embedded issues in Dahl’s original writing.
     

    The anti-Semitism Dahl himself professed doesn’t necessarily play a role in most of his other works, but it’s directly relevant to The Witches, a story that’s explicitly about detecting imposters in the midst of society. This is, to be blunt, the theme of most anti-Semitic conspiracies throughout history, and has led in its most extreme form to the idea that Jewish people “hide” in plain sight while essentially controlling the world.
     

    In The Witches, witches hide in plain sight by disguising themselves as ordinary women — but the tells that give them away are also coded as anti-Semitic: they’re bald beneath their wigs, have reptile-like hands and feet, and have noses that expand when they sniff out children. The grand high witch also speaks with a German accent, one that can easily pass for Yiddish.
     

    The 1990 film unfortunately perpetuated all of these traits, and I hoped that Zemeckis’s version would take pains to shift its witches far away from this stereotype. But it’s not clear if any attempt was made to remove the story’s discriminatory bits. At least the hooked noses are gone. Even so, there’s a lot of anti-Semitic coding ported over, especially when you’re also trying to signal a commitment to diversity by casting Black actors (and an entirely atonal Chris Rock as narrator) to deliver this story. It seems as though zero forethought or even insight went into the portrayal of the witches; and honestly, perhaps this movie needed to hire a culture critic as a consultant in order to save it from itself.
     
    https://www.vox.com/culture/21526708/the-witches-movie-2020-review-roald-dahl-antisemitism

    Replies: @John Derbyshire, @John Milton’s Ghost, @SFG, @Nicholas Stix, @AndrewR, @Steve in Greensboro, @anon

    Fascinating tidbits and motive buried under the heavy handed analysis. “An entirely atonal Chris Rock” is presented as further sign of the racial problems of this portrayal: that the makers throw a lot of black actors in to signal diversity. Atonal is apparently problematic, because it isn’t “black”—unless the reviewer is complaining that the makers do so well not stereotyping blacks like Chris even as they demonize Jews. Chris Rock fully tonal seems to be a minstrel show caricature, to me.

    Dahl was one of the most fairy tale influenced writers of the children’s genre. There’s a dark underbelly in his work similar to the original Grimms, in which peasants recorded real dangers to their traditional lives, coded as magic and the fantastic. No doubt he’s problematic to everyone today since we are told that danger from the wealthy or politicians or people of color are only signs of one’s bigotry and stupidity, rather than received wisdom and common sense.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    How long until Roald Dahl is canceled? Sure he was a WWII fighter ace and helped invent a medical device that saved the lives of 3,000 children. And kids love his books.

    But still ...

    Replies: @Rob McX, @JimDandy, @Lace

    , @Peterike
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    “ Atonal is apparently problematic, because it isn’t “black” “

    I dunno. I’ve seen the trailer and you can tell the narrator is Chris Rock - and black — in about two words. “Atonal” is just some stupid reviewer trying to sound smart.

    The trailer struck me as “they made it into another anti white screed.” Now that I know it’s anti-Semitic I may actually watch it.

    , @SFG
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    Yup. Fairy tales tell you not to talk to strangers, not to go off in the woods by yourself, not to approach large animals like wolves, and not to be nasty to even the town idiot, all useful things for a European peasant's kid.

    Danger from politicians and the wealthy, though? (Agree on POC.) Isn't that what they're always talking about? Sure they're always Republican politicians and rich people, of course...

  35. You know an organization is screwed when it has “equity programming” (wtf that is) and EP is lead by the likes of Orpheus Williams.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/orpheusw/

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @Jim Don Bob

    My fairly founded fear is that all organizations, companies, government agencies will soon have equity programming. I know Trump is somewhat holding the line now. I guess this is yet another reason to vote for the buffoon. Which he is, but he's a buffoon for the right side. Anyone who says Biden is not a buffoon has not been paying attention.

  36. Charter schools are public schools.

    Many operate simply to scam tax dollars.

    I’ve heard about some suburban charters with long waitlists. Admission slots go to the kids of parents who “donate” money.

    Totally crappy, neighborhood schools for non-rich kids are kept open so that tax dollars can flow to exclusive schools for rich (White) kids.

    Public education at its finest.

  37. KIPP==Killing Pale Privilege

    or

    KIPP==Kicking Pale People

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @AnotherDad

    How about:

    KIPP

    Killing Indiscriminately (of) Privileged People?

  38. Anon[609] • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t know about KIPP, but the similar Success Academy in New York City has a military school feel to it. Much of what I have read, however, suggests that the boot camp stuff doesn’t bear a causative relationship to the results, but rather functions as part of a filtering system to weed out the low IQ students.

    To get into and stay in Success Academy you have to be fairly smart:

    — Entry is by lottery, but to be in the lottery you have to know about it and make the effort to apply. This requires a certain amount of having it together on the part of the parents, whose characteristics are heritable to the kid.

    — Kids who do not follow the rules or who misbehave in any way are removed from class and undergo a one-on-one session with a teacher, and the parent is called. For anything above the trivial level, the parent must come in for a meeting. The parents usually work and have to take time off. You can see how a few of these meetings will result in the misbehaving kid being pulled out by the parent(s) and put back in public school. Presumably there is a correllation, at least weak, between misbehavior and intelligence.

    — Kids who do not perform academically are removed from class and undergo a one-on-one grilling by a teacher about why they did not study enough (the blank slate fiction is observed and students who do not perform are considered to have skimped on study). A parent has to come in and is berated about how the kid is not studying enough, and why isn’t the parent enforcing study. The parent is taking days off, the kid is miserable. Result: Back to public school for these dumber kids.

    — New students were originally only accepted into the lowest grade, and the classes would shrink as time went on, with only the smartest students remaining. They changed things under criticism so that there is another acceptance window at some grade level, but the harassment filtering system remains in place, and coming into a higher level grade where everyone behaves and is smart is probably very unpleasant to the less smart (so back to public school for them).

    It would be interesting to have standardized testing data for all students at every grade level longitudinally to verify that this filtering system exists.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Anon


    Presumably there is a correllation, at least weak, between misbehavior and intelligence.
     
    Well the correlation would be between misbehavior and low intelligence, despite misunderstood geniuses claiming otherwise.
  39. @Steve Sailer
    @JimDandy

    "Ibram was a bright but underachieving senior at his Northern Virginia high school. His GPA was below 3.0; his SAT scores were just above 1000. He thought he wasn’t smart enough for college, even though he had been admitted to historically black Florida A&M University."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2019/10/14/anti-racist-revelations-ibram-x-kendi/?arc404=true

    I'd probably guess that score around 1999 converts to a 100-105 IQ, but it could well be 99.

    Replies: @John Milton’s Ghost, @ScarletNumber, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    That article is fascinating: In high school Kendi came to prominence in a public speaking competition in which he resurrected MLK, and ushered a jeremiad and exhortation that blacks be better. He notes his shame and embarrassment at ever uttering such evils, since telling blacks to learn about their past, not be violent, and achieve is not the epitome of Antiracism as Kendi demands it today.

    Since just under half of all American high school students enroll in college, and a 1000 is around the 40th percentile, I’d say it is highly likely Kendi is in the 90s for IQ. But given that he clearly has some verbal skills and thus may be slightly above average there, I suspect his mathematical and therefore reasoning and logic skills are far below average. People who can speak well but reason not at all are the greatest dangers to our society.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    He can string together complete sentences using standard grammar. That's not really the same as "having verbal skills."

    As for MLK, Kendi is fulfilling his vision now. The "content of their character" thing was a ruse meant to deceive well-meaning, gullible whites. And it worked.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BerniceKing/status/1299340664409395202

    They never wanted to be judged by their character.

    Replies: @Calvin Hobbes, @John Milton’s Ghost

    , @Possumman
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    Please note that some God-awful "poet" won Americas Got Talent this year--young black kid shouting at the audience--we had to turn him off each time he "performed"---hard to believe the ballots weren't manipulated for him to win--he was really just dreadful.

  40. @Steve Sailer
    @JimDandy

    "Ibram was a bright but underachieving senior at his Northern Virginia high school. His GPA was below 3.0; his SAT scores were just above 1000. He thought he wasn’t smart enough for college, even though he had been admitted to historically black Florida A&M University."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2019/10/14/anti-racist-revelations-ibram-x-kendi/?arc404=true

    I'd probably guess that score around 1999 converts to a 100-105 IQ, but it could well be 99.

    Replies: @John Milton’s Ghost, @ScarletNumber, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Believe it or not, Temple, where he got his PhD, still has his dissertation on their website for your perusal. So, if you want to read 367 pages on The Black Campus Movement: An Afrocentric Narrative History of the Struggle to Diversify Higher Education, 1965-1972, here you go…

    https://digital.library.temple.edu/digital/collection/p245801coll10/id/55936

    At the time he received his PhD, his name was Ibram Henry Rogers; Kendi is the name he and his wife both took upon their marriage in 2013.

    • Replies: @GLT
    @ScarletNumber

    Maybe we can crowdfund a isteve reader to read it and pull out the highlights..?

  41. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Boston public exam schools drop admissions tests.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/21/metro/school-committee-debates-dropping-admissions-tests-citys-exam-schools-one-year

    Ibram X. Kendi in the Boston Globe :

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/22/opinion/transform-bostons-exam-schools-into-opportunity-schools

    There’s something wrong with the exam school tests — not with Black and Latinx children

    To tell the truth about standardized tests is to tell the story of the eugenicists who created and popularized these tests in the United States more than a century ago.

    By Ibram X. Kendi
    Updated October 22, 2020
     

    Why do Black and Latinx children routinely get lower scores on the standardized tests? Either there’s something wrong with the test takers or there’s something wrong with the tests. Why are Black and Latinx children routinely under-represented in the exam schools? Either there’s something wrong with Black and Latinx children or there’s something wrong with Boston’s admissions policies.

    There’s something wrong with the test and the admissions policies. And to say there’s something wrong with Black and Latinx children is to espouse racist ideas. And those who say racist ideas, typically deny their ideas are racist.
     

    This proposal can begin the process of transforming our high-quality exam schools into high-quality opportunity schools. Let’s call them that. Let’s make them opportunity schools.
     
    So… the rest of Boston’s public schools where the majority of kids go will officially be “anti-opportunity” schools? Kendi’s cool with that? Pretty callous.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Faraday's Bobcat, @Calvin Hobbes

    Obvious solution: have the tests made up by an exclusively black committee.

  42. This is Steve’s 3rd post today–3 for 3!–that cries out “Separate nations!”

  43. There is now no point whatsoever to having KIPP schools. The mooks who have taken over are committing institutional murder.

    “Riot together”

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Nicholas Stix


    There is now no point whatsoever to having KIPP schools. The mooks who have taken over are committing institutional murder.
     
    Yep, the kipp.org website has many pictures of the POCs and white libtards who run the place. Not surprisingly, no asians!
  44. Combine Steve in Greensboro with AnotherDad et voila:

    “Thug Life. Keeping It Real!”

    Done.

  45. @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    And those who say racist ideas, typically deny their ideas are racist.
     
    I just hate people who say racist ideas, don't you?

    Some of them tell me I shouldn't put a comma between the primary subject and verb in a sentence. So racist.

    Replies: @Lace

    I’m sure somebody’s said it somewhere, and maybe a lot of places and times, but if there’s racist sentence structure that threatens all that vitality, then will we told to switch to ‘ax’–I won’t ever have to, becoming more racist by the day (wouldn’t go up to Madison Park and watch the ‘fun thing’ the BLMers and a drag queen were going–I had axed a young white-ally couple this; they said it wasn’t dangerous, so I took the short cut route.) I don’t know if I’ve ever heard, long before this intense version of all this shit has come to be, of anyone correcting people (and there are plenty of low-class whites who say it–greys, I guess) who say it in English classes. I’m not a schoolteacher but I bet some have run into this. Surely, there must be many who’ve corrected it. If it comes from casual commerce at a Rite-Aid, etc., I won’t correct it, so I don’t personally ever have to, and wouldn’t anyway in a more or less innocuous encounter–I’ve done enough mission work.

    So will the work ask be considered anti-white enough to be suppressed?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Lace


    then will we told to switch to ‘ax’
     
    Better yet, ass.

    As in "ass"-constructions. As in Cardi's "wet-ass kittycat".

    , @Lace
    @Lace

    I was asking the question about ASK and AX specifically, not talking about something totally different, which is vernacular and already accepted among whites, whether the 'ass-end of nowhere' or whatever. AX is about the moist disagreeable, incorrigible mispronunciation.

    So somebody that isn't so fucking ass-dumb, do let me know if you've heard one is too *Pro-White* if one has the gall to say ASK. That would seem to be one of the last things to totally blackface all the white allies at very least, so I gather, if with nothing but a butt-ass response, we don't know yet or nobody's heard if we are still allowed to say ASK.

  46. @JimDandy
    So, does Ibram X. Kendi really have a 2-digit I.Q.? Or was that just an excellent zinger? If it's the former, I would like to reference it as often as possible.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Truth

    If he does, Jimbo, you’re going to need to start working harder…

    Boston University’s Ibram X. Kendi, whose book has jockeyed with DiAngelo’s on the bestseller list, charges $150 for tickets to public events and $25,000 for a one-hour presentation, his representatives told the Free Beacon. Former Atlantic writer Ta-Nehisi Coates has charged between $30,000 and $40,000 for public lectures.

    https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2020/07/how-get-rich-calling-americans-racist-daniel-greenfield/

    https://peopleai.com/fame/identities/ibram-x-kendi

  47. @John Milton’s Ghost
    @syonredux

    Fascinating tidbits and motive buried under the heavy handed analysis. “An entirely atonal Chris Rock” is presented as further sign of the racial problems of this portrayal: that the makers throw a lot of black actors in to signal diversity. Atonal is apparently problematic, because it isn’t “black”—unless the reviewer is complaining that the makers do so well not stereotyping blacks like Chris even as they demonize Jews. Chris Rock fully tonal seems to be a minstrel show caricature, to me.

    Dahl was one of the most fairy tale influenced writers of the children’s genre. There’s a dark underbelly in his work similar to the original Grimms, in which peasants recorded real dangers to their traditional lives, coded as magic and the fantastic. No doubt he’s problematic to everyone today since we are told that danger from the wealthy or politicians or people of color are only signs of one’s bigotry and stupidity, rather than received wisdom and common sense.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Peterike, @SFG

    How long until Roald Dahl is canceled? Sure he was a WWII fighter ace and helped invent a medical device that saved the lives of 3,000 children. And kids love his books.

    But still …

    • Agree: NickG
    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Steve Sailer

    Is there anything any man could do that would make himself cancel-proof?

    Replies: @NickG, @Kronos

    , @JimDandy
    @Steve Sailer

    He has been, for lack of a better tern, soft-cancelled. It's almost as if those cancelling him want to do it relatively quietly, to avoid a massive mainstream backlash.

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/nov/06/royal-mint-roald-dahl-coin-antisemitic-views

    , @Lace
    @Steve Sailer

    I wonder if cancelling Roald Dahl would mean cancelling Patricia Neal and Gary Cooper--quite the triumvirate whirring around The Fountainhead (the movie), which is totally pro-quality and precision and anti-pickaninny and well-constructed, not to mention originated by Ayn Rand, never a favourite of Angela Davis. Neal had an abortion by Cooper and 5 children by Dahl. In the film, she says to the architect (Cooper): "It's a great building". BLM never heard anything like that.

  48. @Not Raul
    Black kids are getting sabotaged.

    It’s a damn shame.

    Replies: @Kronos

    It’s not that much of a loss. Education Realist has written some superb stuff exposing KIPP for juking it’s stats and stealing the best blacks/hispanics from low-ability public schools.

    My favorite is “White kids don’t do KIPP.”

    https://educationrealist.wordpress.com/2014/07/24/parents-and-schools/

    • Thanks: Not Raul
    • Replies: @vhrm
    @Kronos


    stealing the best blacks/hispanics from low-ability public schools.
     
    All the "good" schools at every level "steal" the best students of all races from lesser schools. That's the main thing that makes them "good" or at least "not bad".

    Hasn't that been the general takeaway of all these realism-tilted discussions of 5 decades of education reform that never closes "the gaps" ?

    However some research shows that there is at least a modest effect of KIPP's efforts at least in terms of college enrollment with randomized applicants to KIPP middle schools: 48% college admission for those in KIPP middle-school and 41% for those not). i'll hasten to add i think is a poor choice of metric for this demographic. A solid military or trades job (or even staying out of jail or age at first child) would be at least as good to look at as measures of success.
    https://www.educationnext.org/new-research-kipp-charter-middle-schools-can-improve-early-college-outcomes/

  49. @John Milton’s Ghost
    @syonredux

    Fascinating tidbits and motive buried under the heavy handed analysis. “An entirely atonal Chris Rock” is presented as further sign of the racial problems of this portrayal: that the makers throw a lot of black actors in to signal diversity. Atonal is apparently problematic, because it isn’t “black”—unless the reviewer is complaining that the makers do so well not stereotyping blacks like Chris even as they demonize Jews. Chris Rock fully tonal seems to be a minstrel show caricature, to me.

    Dahl was one of the most fairy tale influenced writers of the children’s genre. There’s a dark underbelly in his work similar to the original Grimms, in which peasants recorded real dangers to their traditional lives, coded as magic and the fantastic. No doubt he’s problematic to everyone today since we are told that danger from the wealthy or politicians or people of color are only signs of one’s bigotry and stupidity, rather than received wisdom and common sense.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Peterike, @SFG

    “ Atonal is apparently problematic, because it isn’t “black” “

    I dunno. I’ve seen the trailer and you can tell the narrator is Chris Rock – and black — in about two words. “Atonal” is just some stupid reviewer trying to sound smart.

    The trailer struck me as “they made it into another anti white screed.” Now that I know it’s anti-Semitic I may actually watch it.

  50. @Anonymous
    @Dennis Dale

    I do wonder if that's intentional trolling. Reminds me of the time Korean War POWs told the Norks the middle finger was the "Hawaiian good luck sign."

    Replies: @Kronos

    I’m sure it’s historically happened before…

  51. @AnotherDad
    KIPP==Killing Pale Privilege

    or

    KIPP==Kicking Pale People

    ...

    Replies: @Kronos

    How about:

    KIPP

    Killing Indiscriminately (of) Privileged People?

  52. One suggestion:

    Kindly
    Invert
    Pedagogical
    Practices

  53. @Steve Sailer
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    How long until Roald Dahl is canceled? Sure he was a WWII fighter ace and helped invent a medical device that saved the lives of 3,000 children. And kids love his books.

    But still ...

    Replies: @Rob McX, @JimDandy, @Lace

    Is there anything any man could do that would make himself cancel-proof?

    • Replies: @NickG
    @Rob McX


    is there anything any man could do that would make himself cancel-proof?
     
    Be a black leftie.
    , @Kronos
    @Rob McX

    Cut his dick off and dress like a woman.

  54. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Boston public exam schools drop admissions tests.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/21/metro/school-committee-debates-dropping-admissions-tests-citys-exam-schools-one-year

    Ibram X. Kendi in the Boston Globe :

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/22/opinion/transform-bostons-exam-schools-into-opportunity-schools

    There’s something wrong with the exam school tests — not with Black and Latinx children

    To tell the truth about standardized tests is to tell the story of the eugenicists who created and popularized these tests in the United States more than a century ago.

    By Ibram X. Kendi
    Updated October 22, 2020
     

    Why do Black and Latinx children routinely get lower scores on the standardized tests? Either there’s something wrong with the test takers or there’s something wrong with the tests. Why are Black and Latinx children routinely under-represented in the exam schools? Either there’s something wrong with Black and Latinx children or there’s something wrong with Boston’s admissions policies.

    There’s something wrong with the test and the admissions policies. And to say there’s something wrong with Black and Latinx children is to espouse racist ideas. And those who say racist ideas, typically deny their ideas are racist.
     

    This proposal can begin the process of transforming our high-quality exam schools into high-quality opportunity schools. Let’s call them that. Let’s make them opportunity schools.
     
    So… the rest of Boston’s public schools where the majority of kids go will officially be “anti-opportunity” schools? Kendi’s cool with that? Pretty callous.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Faraday's Bobcat, @Calvin Hobbes

    Kendi in that article also writes:

    This is not about me or my child. My wife and I have the resources to one day sign her up for an expensive test-prep course, or hire a test-prep consultant. All the test prep will end up being money well spent: It will have boosted her score to get into an exam school.

    It would be interesting to see how well Kendi’s child would do on the exams after lots of test-prep. I seriously doubt that she’d be competitive with the smart kids.

    Kendi:

    I won’t tell you that across the United States test prep companies and consultants are concentrated in white and Asian neighborhoods. Because we’re not supposed to talk about all this. We’re not supposed to be talking about the fact that all Boston children do not have equal access to high-quality test preparation — and it’s impossible to create equal access. We’re not supposed to talk about all this legal cheating.

    Blacks do plenty of test-prep, though not as intensively as the Asians.

    The SAT, Test Prep, Income and Race

    https://marginalrevolution.com/?s=Test+prep

    The third fact is that test prep varies by race in the opposite way that people imagine. In the quote above, Chris Hayes suggests that whites use test prep much more than blacks. In fact, blacks use test prep more than whites, as is well documented among education researchers (e.g. here, here, here), e.g. from the first link:

    …blacks and Hispanics are more likely than whites from comparable backgrounds to utilize test preparation. The black-white gap is especially pronounced in the use of high school courses, private courses and private tutors.

    Indeed, since blacks use test prep more than whites and blacks have lower SAT scores than whites the effect of test prep is to reduce not increase the black-white gap in scores. Of course, the net reduction in the gap is small.

    I don’t think that Kendi is the least bit bothered by facts that conflict with his claims.

  55. @syonredux
    A new adaptation of Dahl's The Witches is on HBO MAX. Vox is not happy.....

    Roald Dahl is one of the most celebrated children’s authors who ever lived. But he was also indisputably one of the most bigoted. He was a profound anti-Semite, perpetuating anti-Semitic tropes and falsehoods — like that of Jewish people controlling the economy and the publishing industry. In 1983, Dahl, then 67, told The New Statesman that Jewish people “provoke animosity” and blamed them for being too “submissive” to fight back during the Holocaust. “I mean, there’s always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere,” he said. “Even a stinker like Hitler didn’t just pick on them for no reason.”
     

    Dahl has also been widely read as a misogynistic writer, in large part due to the openly misogynistic theme of The Witches, in which women are literally demonized for dressing up, feminizing their appearances, and framed as monsters lurking inside seemingly sweet and complacent disguises. They’re also coded as anti-Semitic, with large, hooked noses, reptilian features, a ready stash of mysterious cash, and a plot to take over the world and kill children, all tropes derived from longstanding anti-Semitic conspiracies.
     

    Yet Zemeckis’s version of The Witches seems to offer nothing whatsoever to attempt to remedy the embedded issues in Dahl’s original writing.
     

    The anti-Semitism Dahl himself professed doesn’t necessarily play a role in most of his other works, but it’s directly relevant to The Witches, a story that’s explicitly about detecting imposters in the midst of society. This is, to be blunt, the theme of most anti-Semitic conspiracies throughout history, and has led in its most extreme form to the idea that Jewish people “hide” in plain sight while essentially controlling the world.
     

    In The Witches, witches hide in plain sight by disguising themselves as ordinary women — but the tells that give them away are also coded as anti-Semitic: they’re bald beneath their wigs, have reptile-like hands and feet, and have noses that expand when they sniff out children. The grand high witch also speaks with a German accent, one that can easily pass for Yiddish.
     

    The 1990 film unfortunately perpetuated all of these traits, and I hoped that Zemeckis’s version would take pains to shift its witches far away from this stereotype. But it’s not clear if any attempt was made to remove the story’s discriminatory bits. At least the hooked noses are gone. Even so, there’s a lot of anti-Semitic coding ported over, especially when you’re also trying to signal a commitment to diversity by casting Black actors (and an entirely atonal Chris Rock as narrator) to deliver this story. It seems as though zero forethought or even insight went into the portrayal of the witches; and honestly, perhaps this movie needed to hire a culture critic as a consultant in order to save it from itself.
     
    https://www.vox.com/culture/21526708/the-witches-movie-2020-review-roald-dahl-antisemitism

    Replies: @John Derbyshire, @John Milton’s Ghost, @SFG, @Nicholas Stix, @AndrewR, @Steve in Greensboro, @anon

    Jews have reptile hands and feet?

    A *German* accent is antisemitic?

    They’re reaching. They’re really reaching.

  56. 4241664

    YOU, YOU are abhorrent.

  57. @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    Being nice leads to White Supremacy.

    Or it might be the other way around, I forget.

    Meanwhile..

    https://i.ibb.co/86bXbMm/Screenshot-20201023-195740-RT-News.jpg

    Replies: @Dago Shoes, @El Dato, @AndrewR, @profnasty, @guest

    … and, worst of all, if they don’t vote for Bidet … they ain’t black.

  58. @Steve Sailer
    @JimDandy

    "Ibram was a bright but underachieving senior at his Northern Virginia high school. His GPA was below 3.0; his SAT scores were just above 1000. He thought he wasn’t smart enough for college, even though he had been admitted to historically black Florida A&M University."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2019/10/14/anti-racist-revelations-ibram-x-kendi/?arc404=true

    I'd probably guess that score around 1999 converts to a 100-105 IQ, but it could well be 99.

    Replies: @John Milton’s Ghost, @ScarletNumber, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “Ibrahim (‘s) test scores were just above 1000…. He thought he wasn’t smart enough for college, even though he had been admitted to historically black…”

    So in other words, yeah, in fact he wasn’t smart enough for college. Well, smart enough for Clown College, but not for real college.

  59. @Lace
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    I'm sure somebody's said it somewhere, and maybe a lot of places and times, but if there's racist sentence structure that threatens all that vitality, then will we told to switch to 'ax'--I won't ever have to, becoming more racist by the day (wouldn't go up to Madison Park and watch the 'fun thing' the BLMers and a drag queen were going--I had axed a young white-ally couple this; they said it wasn't dangerous, so I took the short cut route.) I don't know if I've ever heard, long before this intense version of all this shit has come to be, of anyone correcting people (and there are plenty of low-class whites who say it--greys, I guess) who say it in English classes. I'm not a schoolteacher but I bet some have run into this. Surely, there must be many who've corrected it. If it comes from casual commerce at a Rite-Aid, etc., I won't correct it, so I don't personally ever have to, and wouldn't anyway in a more or less innocuous encounter--I've done enough mission work.

    So will the work ask be considered anti-white enough to be suppressed?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Lace

    then will we told to switch to ‘ax’

    Better yet, ass.

    As in “ass”-constructions. As in Cardi’s “wet-ass kittycat”.

    • Troll: Lace
  60. @Buffalo Joe
    Years ago, as I was about to go into a rage about some FU on a job, an old timer told me..."You know Joey, it's nice to be nice." Yeah, the old chestnuts about "Nice guys finish last" and "It is better to be feared than loved" are great ways to go through life. Well, "hard work is its own reward" and "it's nice to nice" are of course just slogans but they're not the worse thing you could tell some kid. Worse would be you don't have a chance to succeed.

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    “You know Joey, it’s nice to be nice.”

    If someone said that to me, I’d slap him.

    Though, it’s probably better than hearing, “Say, Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?” or “Have you ever seen an grown man naked?”

  61. @jamie b.
    @Reg Cæsar

    I don't understand.

    Replies: @bruce county, @Reg Cæsar

    They’re implying that working hard and being nice only suits future burger flippers. Not revolutionaries. So “beach diner work” is an apt anagram, isn’t it?

  62. Feedback on the slogan falls into a few buckets:

    Working hard and being nice is not going to dismantle systemic racism.

    Is this the new catch-all slogan / excuse that people are going to use when they want get out of work, or get someone else into it?

    “I know you wanted an X-box for Christmas, son (daughter, other), but that’s not going to dismantle systemic racism.”

    “I know you expected me to install the more expensive vinyl siding that you paid me to install, but that’s not going to dismantle systemic racism.”

    “For every Frappuccino you buy, Starbucks will donate 10 cents to dismantle systemic racism.”

    OT: Yale University demands that the firms managing their endowment diversify their staff.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/yales-david-swensen-puts-money-managers-on-notice-about-diversity-11603450800

    And, Paul Krugman goes full Otter:

    Paul Krugman and other mainstream trade experts are now admitting that they were wrong about globalization: It hurt American workers far more than they thought it would.

    https://getpocket.com/explore/item/economists-on-the-run?utm_source=pocket-newtab

  63. @Steve Sailer
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    How long until Roald Dahl is canceled? Sure he was a WWII fighter ace and helped invent a medical device that saved the lives of 3,000 children. And kids love his books.

    But still ...

    Replies: @Rob McX, @JimDandy, @Lace

    He has been, for lack of a better tern, soft-cancelled. It’s almost as if those cancelling him want to do it relatively quietly, to avoid a massive mainstream backlash.

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/nov/06/royal-mint-roald-dahl-coin-antisemitic-views

  64. @Rob McX
    @Steve Sailer

    Is there anything any man could do that would make himself cancel-proof?

    Replies: @NickG, @Kronos

    is there anything any man could do that would make himself cancel-proof?

    Be a black leftie.

  65. @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    Being nice leads to White Supremacy.

    Or it might be the other way around, I forget.

    Meanwhile..

    https://i.ibb.co/86bXbMm/Screenshot-20201023-195740-RT-News.jpg

    Replies: @Dago Shoes, @El Dato, @AndrewR, @profnasty, @guest

    The email shows that “Democracy” has reached terminal dogma status. It’s like “Gluten Free”.

    https://community.expensify.com/discussion/7632/protect-democracy-vote-for-biden

    Remember kids: Keep it clean! Too much CNN is bad for you.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @El Dato

    Thanks.

  66. @Lace
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    I'm sure somebody's said it somewhere, and maybe a lot of places and times, but if there's racist sentence structure that threatens all that vitality, then will we told to switch to 'ax'--I won't ever have to, becoming more racist by the day (wouldn't go up to Madison Park and watch the 'fun thing' the BLMers and a drag queen were going--I had axed a young white-ally couple this; they said it wasn't dangerous, so I took the short cut route.) I don't know if I've ever heard, long before this intense version of all this shit has come to be, of anyone correcting people (and there are plenty of low-class whites who say it--greys, I guess) who say it in English classes. I'm not a schoolteacher but I bet some have run into this. Surely, there must be many who've corrected it. If it comes from casual commerce at a Rite-Aid, etc., I won't correct it, so I don't personally ever have to, and wouldn't anyway in a more or less innocuous encounter--I've done enough mission work.

    So will the work ask be considered anti-white enough to be suppressed?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Lace

    I was asking the question about ASK and AX specifically, not talking about something totally different, which is vernacular and already accepted among whites, whether the ‘ass-end of nowhere’ or whatever. AX is about the moist disagreeable, incorrigible mispronunciation.

    So somebody that isn’t so fucking ass-dumb, do let me know if you’ve heard one is too *Pro-White* if one has the gall to say ASK. That would seem to be one of the last things to totally blackface all the white allies at very least, so I gather, if with nothing but a butt-ass response, we don’t know yet or nobody’s heard if we are still allowed to say ASK.

  67. @El Dato
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    The email shows that "Democracy" has reached terminal dogma status. It's like "Gluten Free".

    https://community.expensify.com/discussion/7632/protect-democracy-vote-for-biden

    Remember kids: Keep it clean! Too much CNN is bad for you.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Thanks.

  68. @Steve Sailer
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    How long until Roald Dahl is canceled? Sure he was a WWII fighter ace and helped invent a medical device that saved the lives of 3,000 children. And kids love his books.

    But still ...

    Replies: @Rob McX, @JimDandy, @Lace

    I wonder if cancelling Roald Dahl would mean cancelling Patricia Neal and Gary Cooper–quite the triumvirate whirring around The Fountainhead (the movie), which is totally pro-quality and precision and anti-pickaninny and well-constructed, not to mention originated by Ayn Rand, never a favourite of Angela Davis. Neal had an abortion by Cooper and 5 children by Dahl. In the film, she says to the architect (Cooper): “It’s a great building”. BLM never heard anything like that.

  69. @ScarletNumber
    @Steve Sailer

    Believe it or not, Temple, where he got his PhD, still has his dissertation on their website for your perusal. So, if you want to read 367 pages on The Black Campus Movement: An Afrocentric Narrative History of the Struggle to Diversify Higher Education, 1965-1972, here you go...

    https://digital.library.temple.edu/digital/collection/p245801coll10/id/55936

    At the time he received his PhD, his name was Ibram Henry Rogers; Kendi is the name he and his wife both took upon their marriage in 2013.

    Replies: @GLT

    Maybe we can crowdfund a isteve reader to read it and pull out the highlights..?

  70. @Dennis Dale
    "Nice Guys Finish Last", like the man said

    Replies: @Anonymous, @duncsbaby

    I used to try to be nice but now just shoot for superficially pleasant. What more does anyone want?

  71. @Rob McX
    @Steve Sailer

    Is there anything any man could do that would make himself cancel-proof?

    Replies: @NickG, @Kronos

    Cut his dick off and dress like a woman.

  72. @Jim Don Bob
    You know an organization is screwed when it has "equity programming" (wtf that is) and EP is lead by the likes of Orpheus Williams.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/orpheusw/

    Replies: @duncsbaby

    My fairly founded fear is that all organizations, companies, government agencies will soon have equity programming. I know Trump is somewhat holding the line now. I guess this is yet another reason to vote for the buffoon. Which he is, but he’s a buffoon for the right side. Anyone who says Biden is not a buffoon has not been paying attention.

  73. @Anon
    I don't know about KIPP, but the similar Success Academy in New York City has a military school feel to it. Much of what I have read, however, suggests that the boot camp stuff doesn't bear a causative relationship to the results, but rather functions as part of a filtering system to weed out the low IQ students.

    To get into and stay in Success Academy you have to be fairly smart:

    -- Entry is by lottery, but to be in the lottery you have to know about it and make the effort to apply. This requires a certain amount of having it together on the part of the parents, whose characteristics are heritable to the kid.

    -- Kids who do not follow the rules or who misbehave in any way are removed from class and undergo a one-on-one session with a teacher, and the parent is called. For anything above the trivial level, the parent must come in for a meeting. The parents usually work and have to take time off. You can see how a few of these meetings will result in the misbehaving kid being pulled out by the parent(s) and put back in public school. Presumably there is a correllation, at least weak, between misbehavior and intelligence.

    -- Kids who do not perform academically are removed from class and undergo a one-on-one grilling by a teacher about why they did not study enough (the blank slate fiction is observed and students who do not perform are considered to have skimped on study). A parent has to come in and is berated about how the kid is not studying enough, and why isn't the parent enforcing study. The parent is taking days off, the kid is miserable. Result: Back to public school for these dumber kids.

    -- New students were originally only accepted into the lowest grade, and the classes would shrink as time went on, with only the smartest students remaining. They changed things under criticism so that there is another acceptance window at some grade level, but the harassment filtering system remains in place, and coming into a higher level grade where everyone behaves and is smart is probably very unpleasant to the less smart (so back to public school for them).

    It would be interesting to have standardized testing data for all students at every grade level longitudinally to verify that this filtering system exists.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    Presumably there is a correllation, at least weak, between misbehavior and intelligence.

    Well the correlation would be between misbehavior and low intelligence, despite misunderstood geniuses claiming otherwise.

  74. @syonredux
    A new adaptation of Dahl's The Witches is on HBO MAX. Vox is not happy.....

    Roald Dahl is one of the most celebrated children’s authors who ever lived. But he was also indisputably one of the most bigoted. He was a profound anti-Semite, perpetuating anti-Semitic tropes and falsehoods — like that of Jewish people controlling the economy and the publishing industry. In 1983, Dahl, then 67, told The New Statesman that Jewish people “provoke animosity” and blamed them for being too “submissive” to fight back during the Holocaust. “I mean, there’s always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere,” he said. “Even a stinker like Hitler didn’t just pick on them for no reason.”
     

    Dahl has also been widely read as a misogynistic writer, in large part due to the openly misogynistic theme of The Witches, in which women are literally demonized for dressing up, feminizing their appearances, and framed as monsters lurking inside seemingly sweet and complacent disguises. They’re also coded as anti-Semitic, with large, hooked noses, reptilian features, a ready stash of mysterious cash, and a plot to take over the world and kill children, all tropes derived from longstanding anti-Semitic conspiracies.
     

    Yet Zemeckis’s version of The Witches seems to offer nothing whatsoever to attempt to remedy the embedded issues in Dahl’s original writing.
     

    The anti-Semitism Dahl himself professed doesn’t necessarily play a role in most of his other works, but it’s directly relevant to The Witches, a story that’s explicitly about detecting imposters in the midst of society. This is, to be blunt, the theme of most anti-Semitic conspiracies throughout history, and has led in its most extreme form to the idea that Jewish people “hide” in plain sight while essentially controlling the world.
     

    In The Witches, witches hide in plain sight by disguising themselves as ordinary women — but the tells that give them away are also coded as anti-Semitic: they’re bald beneath their wigs, have reptile-like hands and feet, and have noses that expand when they sniff out children. The grand high witch also speaks with a German accent, one that can easily pass for Yiddish.
     

    The 1990 film unfortunately perpetuated all of these traits, and I hoped that Zemeckis’s version would take pains to shift its witches far away from this stereotype. But it’s not clear if any attempt was made to remove the story’s discriminatory bits. At least the hooked noses are gone. Even so, there’s a lot of anti-Semitic coding ported over, especially when you’re also trying to signal a commitment to diversity by casting Black actors (and an entirely atonal Chris Rock as narrator) to deliver this story. It seems as though zero forethought or even insight went into the portrayal of the witches; and honestly, perhaps this movie needed to hire a culture critic as a consultant in order to save it from itself.
     
    https://www.vox.com/culture/21526708/the-witches-movie-2020-review-roald-dahl-antisemitism

    Replies: @John Derbyshire, @John Milton’s Ghost, @SFG, @Nicholas Stix, @AndrewR, @Steve in Greensboro, @anon

    Having skimmed the extensive excerpt you re-posted, and having skimmed the original, I can say that I wouldn’t take this Aja Romano character’s word for anything.

    “… perhaps this movie needed to hire a culture critic as a consultant in order to save it from itself.”
    Aja Romano, Vox

    I have no doubt that the suits at HBO did indeed have a diversity commissar rule on the script, as on every script, which is why the movie was blackified.

    So, the commissars ruined the story, yet Aja Romano is still complaining? You got the world you wanted, whatever you are, so what is your complaint?

    We need to revive a saying from the 1960s—“People who won’t take ‘yes’ for an answer.”

  75. How about, “Because you just can’t help your damned selves” ?

    • Replies: @Neuday
    @The Alarmist


    How about, “Because you just can’t help your damned selves” ?
     
    Might as well be "Joggers gonna jog", or "Layabout, Chimp Out".

    They gist seems to be that Western Civilization is a White thing, and being anti-racism requires a lack of civility. The negro has long been accused of generally being uncivilizable savages, and Kendi and many others now agree. Working hard and being "nice" are what White people do. Africa wins again.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

  76. @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    Being nice leads to White Supremacy.

    Or it might be the other way around, I forget.

    Meanwhile..

    https://i.ibb.co/86bXbMm/Screenshot-20201023-195740-RT-News.jpg

    Replies: @Dago Shoes, @El Dato, @AndrewR, @profnasty, @guest

    (((Democracy))) in 2020 is defined as inherently good for the Jews. Anything that’s bad for them is undemocratic.

    • Agree: Charon
    • Replies: @Francis Miville
    @AndrewR

    Not specifically in 2020. Absolutely all Catholic and even Agnostic French moralists have been stating what you say since the Revolution of 1789 and before : democracy is any form of government, dictatorial or otherwise, that serves Jews over non-Jews, and tyranny is any form of government threatening to confiscate Jewish property. Humanism is any philosophy that postulates the superiority of the synagogue over the Church.

  77. Keep it real. Snarl at whites.

    • Replies: @guest
    @International Jew

    Kill whitey. Also, kill whitey.

  78. @John Milton’s Ghost
    @Steve Sailer

    That article is fascinating: In high school Kendi came to prominence in a public speaking competition in which he resurrected MLK, and ushered a jeremiad and exhortation that blacks be better. He notes his shame and embarrassment at ever uttering such evils, since telling blacks to learn about their past, not be violent, and achieve is not the epitome of Antiracism as Kendi demands it today.

    Since just under half of all American high school students enroll in college, and a 1000 is around the 40th percentile, I’d say it is highly likely Kendi is in the 90s for IQ. But given that he clearly has some verbal skills and thus may be slightly above average there, I suspect his mathematical and therefore reasoning and logic skills are far below average. People who can speak well but reason not at all are the greatest dangers to our society.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Possumman

    He can string together complete sentences using standard grammar. That’s not really the same as “having verbal skills.”

    As for MLK, Kendi is fulfilling his vision now. The “content of their character” thing was a ruse meant to deceive well-meaning, gullible whites. And it worked.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BerniceKing/status/1299340664409395202

    They never wanted to be judged by their character.

    • Replies: @Calvin Hobbes
    @AndrewR


    The “content of their character” thing was a ruse meant to deceive well-meaning, gullible whites.
     
    I doubt that MLK was intentionally perpetuating a ruse when he said it. He said it because it sounded good, without worrying about what a reasonable operational meaning might be. But he never would have opposed preferences or reparations for blacks and would have bullshitted to explain why there was no conflict between that and the “content of their character” thing.

    I think the right term for the “content of their character” thing is “rhetorical flourish”.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind

    , @John Milton’s Ghost
    @AndrewR

    I’d suggest stringing together complete sentences with accurate grammar _is_ evidence of some verbal skill. I teach at the college level, at a state school where the average admission scores are higher than Kendi’s. Unless he has an editor or ghost writer, he’s not bad—better than some black preachers or rappers who use big words but do so incorrectly. At any rate my main point was, say he has a 110 equivalent with verbal proficiency, but an 80 in math-logic-reasoning. That’s more terrifying to me than someone in the 90s across the board.

  79. @syonredux
    A new adaptation of Dahl's The Witches is on HBO MAX. Vox is not happy.....

    Roald Dahl is one of the most celebrated children’s authors who ever lived. But he was also indisputably one of the most bigoted. He was a profound anti-Semite, perpetuating anti-Semitic tropes and falsehoods — like that of Jewish people controlling the economy and the publishing industry. In 1983, Dahl, then 67, told The New Statesman that Jewish people “provoke animosity” and blamed them for being too “submissive” to fight back during the Holocaust. “I mean, there’s always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere,” he said. “Even a stinker like Hitler didn’t just pick on them for no reason.”
     

    Dahl has also been widely read as a misogynistic writer, in large part due to the openly misogynistic theme of The Witches, in which women are literally demonized for dressing up, feminizing their appearances, and framed as monsters lurking inside seemingly sweet and complacent disguises. They’re also coded as anti-Semitic, with large, hooked noses, reptilian features, a ready stash of mysterious cash, and a plot to take over the world and kill children, all tropes derived from longstanding anti-Semitic conspiracies.
     

    Yet Zemeckis’s version of The Witches seems to offer nothing whatsoever to attempt to remedy the embedded issues in Dahl’s original writing.
     

    The anti-Semitism Dahl himself professed doesn’t necessarily play a role in most of his other works, but it’s directly relevant to The Witches, a story that’s explicitly about detecting imposters in the midst of society. This is, to be blunt, the theme of most anti-Semitic conspiracies throughout history, and has led in its most extreme form to the idea that Jewish people “hide” in plain sight while essentially controlling the world.
     

    In The Witches, witches hide in plain sight by disguising themselves as ordinary women — but the tells that give them away are also coded as anti-Semitic: they’re bald beneath their wigs, have reptile-like hands and feet, and have noses that expand when they sniff out children. The grand high witch also speaks with a German accent, one that can easily pass for Yiddish.
     

    The 1990 film unfortunately perpetuated all of these traits, and I hoped that Zemeckis’s version would take pains to shift its witches far away from this stereotype. But it’s not clear if any attempt was made to remove the story’s discriminatory bits. At least the hooked noses are gone. Even so, there’s a lot of anti-Semitic coding ported over, especially when you’re also trying to signal a commitment to diversity by casting Black actors (and an entirely atonal Chris Rock as narrator) to deliver this story. It seems as though zero forethought or even insight went into the portrayal of the witches; and honestly, perhaps this movie needed to hire a culture critic as a consultant in order to save it from itself.
     
    https://www.vox.com/culture/21526708/the-witches-movie-2020-review-roald-dahl-antisemitism

    Replies: @John Derbyshire, @John Milton’s Ghost, @SFG, @Nicholas Stix, @AndrewR, @Steve in Greensboro, @anon

    Roald Dahl wasn’t nearly anti-Semitic enough. He allowed himself to be used as a sex toy for an American high society slut Clare Booth Luce, who was in an open marriage with the media mega-magnate Henry Luce, in order to win her (and thus Henry) over to the (((British))) position towards Germany.

    Her many other lovers included JFK’s dad and Winston Churchill’s son Randolph.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @AndrewR


    Roald Dahl wasn’t nearly anti-Semitic enough. He allowed himself to be used as a sex toy for an American high society slut
     
    I was about to mock this characterization; this portrayal of a grown, mentally competent, independent, highly accomplished man as the mere sex toy of a woman; as her pitiful victim. But then I considered, thanks to your subtle highlighting of the fact, that Jews apparently were involved. And I remembered just how wily, lubricious and ruthless we Jews excel in being...

    No, there's nothing less-than-rational or reasonable in effectively denying the agency of as much as 90+ % of a general population, maintaining that they are but hapless, benighted pawns manipulated to act against their own interests and desires by the roughly 2-3% of the population. Repeatedly, continually, for millennia. Nor, of course, could such a narrative ever reasonably be seen as in any way patronizing, insulting or demeaning to the demographic that comprises the overwhelming majority. Only a rabid Jew or hopeless boomer cuck could ever think otherwise.

  80. @Daniel Williams
    How about “Hands up, don’t shoot?”

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Or

    “Work shambolically, be niggardly.”

    • LOL: Gary in Gramercy
  81. ‘Do diddly, be bad’

    ‘Mug hard, get loot’

    ‘Work woke, be narcissistic’

    ‘Arbeit macht white’

  82. @Nicholas Stix
    There is now no point whatsoever to having KIPP schools. The mooks who have taken over are committing institutional murder.

    “Riot together”

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    There is now no point whatsoever to having KIPP schools. The mooks who have taken over are committing institutional murder.

    Yep, the kipp.org website has many pictures of the POCs and white libtards who run the place. Not surprisingly, no asians!

  83. @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    Being nice leads to White Supremacy.

    Or it might be the other way around, I forget.

    Meanwhile..

    https://i.ibb.co/86bXbMm/Screenshot-20201023-195740-RT-News.jpg

    Replies: @Dago Shoes, @El Dato, @AndrewR, @profnasty, @guest

    Let’s consider Expensify the ‘Spoils of War.’

  84. @John Milton’s Ghost
    @syonredux

    Fascinating tidbits and motive buried under the heavy handed analysis. “An entirely atonal Chris Rock” is presented as further sign of the racial problems of this portrayal: that the makers throw a lot of black actors in to signal diversity. Atonal is apparently problematic, because it isn’t “black”—unless the reviewer is complaining that the makers do so well not stereotyping blacks like Chris even as they demonize Jews. Chris Rock fully tonal seems to be a minstrel show caricature, to me.

    Dahl was one of the most fairy tale influenced writers of the children’s genre. There’s a dark underbelly in his work similar to the original Grimms, in which peasants recorded real dangers to their traditional lives, coded as magic and the fantastic. No doubt he’s problematic to everyone today since we are told that danger from the wealthy or politicians or people of color are only signs of one’s bigotry and stupidity, rather than received wisdom and common sense.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Peterike, @SFG

    Yup. Fairy tales tell you not to talk to strangers, not to go off in the woods by yourself, not to approach large animals like wolves, and not to be nasty to even the town idiot, all useful things for a European peasant’s kid.

    Danger from politicians and the wealthy, though? (Agree on POC.) Isn’t that what they’re always talking about? Sure they’re always Republican politicians and rich people, of course…

  85. @AndrewR
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    He can string together complete sentences using standard grammar. That's not really the same as "having verbal skills."

    As for MLK, Kendi is fulfilling his vision now. The "content of their character" thing was a ruse meant to deceive well-meaning, gullible whites. And it worked.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BerniceKing/status/1299340664409395202

    They never wanted to be judged by their character.

    Replies: @Calvin Hobbes, @John Milton’s Ghost

    The “content of their character” thing was a ruse meant to deceive well-meaning, gullible whites.

    I doubt that MLK was intentionally perpetuating a ruse when he said it. He said it because it sounded good, without worrying about what a reasonable operational meaning might be. But he never would have opposed preferences or reparations for blacks and would have bullshitted to explain why there was no conflict between that and the “content of their character” thing.

    I think the right term for the “content of their character” thing is “rhetorical flourish”.

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @Calvin Hobbes

    "Content of their character" may have been akin to "From each according to his ability" -- a kind of end state of a social transformation, but not necessarily the condition during the "dictatorship of the proletariat" phase?

  86. @AndrewR
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    He can string together complete sentences using standard grammar. That's not really the same as "having verbal skills."

    As for MLK, Kendi is fulfilling his vision now. The "content of their character" thing was a ruse meant to deceive well-meaning, gullible whites. And it worked.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BerniceKing/status/1299340664409395202

    They never wanted to be judged by their character.

    Replies: @Calvin Hobbes, @John Milton’s Ghost

    I’d suggest stringing together complete sentences with accurate grammar _is_ evidence of some verbal skill. I teach at the college level, at a state school where the average admission scores are higher than Kendi’s. Unless he has an editor or ghost writer, he’s not bad—better than some black preachers or rappers who use big words but do so incorrectly. At any rate my main point was, say he has a 110 equivalent with verbal proficiency, but an 80 in math-logic-reasoning. That’s more terrifying to me than someone in the 90s across the board.

  87. Totally random BUT…

    In my highschool there was a HUGE cheating scandal with Asians…it was Government and Econ…

    It was so bad that the Asians were put in front of a tribunal…I don’t know many details cuz they kept it super hush hush

    The Asians had all the previous homeworks from older siblings and were just passing them around on a hard disc

    No whites were involved. In fact, I remember being shocked because it was my ‘closest friends’ who had the hard disc

    The whites and more honest Asians would all get together on the morning that Econ assignment was due and do a Giant 7 am Answer Session where we would all make sure our answers were 100% correct…but in order to partake, you had to make sure You did The Homework. Then we would just all lay our homeworks down and make sure everyone got 100% on their HOmework Grade Assignment as Homework was part of the grade.

    It seemed fair, as no one wants to have their overall grade lowered because of genuine learning errors via homework.

    And it was fair because I don’t remember anyone NOT doing their homework before the struggle session.

    Anyways…maybe dropping Homework Grades and intermittent testing is due to Teacher Laziness at having to Make Up Different Tests Each Year (especially if you gave a weekly quiz…maybe teachers are just too lazy to make up a different weekly quiz year after year…I kinda get that but that’s what you are being paid for)

    But if all the Asians are swapping homework…and Asians are getting 100% perfect homework score grades and 100% on weekly quizes recycled from last year…yet hispanics, whites and minorities are taking and doing the homework ‘Fresh’ Yeah…I could see a massive problem

  88. How about “Book Learning Matters” ???

  89. Why not Thug Academy. Teach real skills in demand. Pimping. Ho. Drug dealing. Street robber y. Home invasions. Things of real use and demand in the black community.

  90. @The Alarmist
    How about, “Because you just can’t help your damned selves” ?

    Replies: @Neuday

    How about, “Because you just can’t help your damned selves” ?

    Might as well be “Joggers gonna jog”, or “Layabout, Chimp Out”.

    They gist seems to be that Western Civilization is a White thing, and being anti-racism requires a lack of civility. The negro has long been accused of generally being uncivilizable savages, and Kendi and many others now agree. Working hard and being “nice” are what White people do. Africa wins again.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Neuday


    Africa wins again.
     
    Assuming that Out of Africa hypothesis is true, my corollary is that there was a good reason we got the hell out of Africa. And just when we thought we were out, we pull ourselves back in.
  91. @John Milton’s Ghost
    @Steve Sailer

    That article is fascinating: In high school Kendi came to prominence in a public speaking competition in which he resurrected MLK, and ushered a jeremiad and exhortation that blacks be better. He notes his shame and embarrassment at ever uttering such evils, since telling blacks to learn about their past, not be violent, and achieve is not the epitome of Antiracism as Kendi demands it today.

    Since just under half of all American high school students enroll in college, and a 1000 is around the 40th percentile, I’d say it is highly likely Kendi is in the 90s for IQ. But given that he clearly has some verbal skills and thus may be slightly above average there, I suspect his mathematical and therefore reasoning and logic skills are far below average. People who can speak well but reason not at all are the greatest dangers to our society.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Possumman

    Please note that some God-awful “poet” won Americas Got Talent this year–young black kid shouting at the audience–we had to turn him off each time he “performed”—hard to believe the ballots weren’t manipulated for him to win–he was really just dreadful.

  92. Slightly off topic:

    Black lives matter, except in Lagos Nigeria. Dozens killed, government silent.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/lagos-imposes-indefinite-curfew-curb-nigeria-protests-police-deploy-anti-n1244030

  93. @Mike Tre
    On Topic - this video popped up under yt recommended videos. Basically, a young gullible white woman explores the reasons why a 15 year old black male killed his white foster mother with a hatchet and then set her on fire.

    https://youtu.be/53JQV_wEp7A

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    It seems the foster mother was black, but no less saintly for that.

    Pseudo*-journalist and Whiskey-vindicator Jennifer Toth writes about Good Boy Who Dindu Nuffin, Johnnie Jordan, who did murder his foster mother in cold blood for no discernible reason despite liking her. Although he is a murderer, Jennifer grants her subject’s every premise (and with the foster parents dead and gone, who is there to gainsay him?). The then 30-to-35-year-old and apparently childless Jennifer spent weeks at a time for five years visiting the then 16-to-21-year-old Johnnie and still talks with him at least weekly even though the book is done, which is to say, more time than a lot women spend with their boyfriends and possibly more time than Jennifer spent with her husband. “Why did you write the book?” asks the interviewer, perhaps sensing the obvious. “That’s a difficult question to answer,” evades Jennifer. I’ll bet it is.

    The publication of Jennifer’s book causes 42-year-old single mother of two and Whiskey-vindicator Pamela Smith to get in touch and fall in love with Johnnie. She moves her family from California to Toledo Ohio to be close to “the love of her life”. She also makes the http://www.supportjohnnie.com website to spring him from jail and make it harder convict guys like him. Also, she’s got needs.

    “You know, a lot of people are critical of our relationship because he’s an inmate and they say inmates tend to pimp women with their words; use them for whatever they can get,” Ms. Smith said.

    Well, at least someone’s explained it to her. Of course, it doesn’t apply in her case.

    “Johnnie is genuine; he’s authentic.” The Johnnie she knows calls her house each night to check on her children and orders stuffed animals and flowers for her from catalogs. And he choked up when her children belted out “Happy Birthday” to him inside the prison’s visiting room. He’s the Johnnie who helps her 13-year-old daughter with multiplication tables and makes bets with her 9-year-old son – loser buys a pop – over sports teams.

    Maybe it’s a bad idea to involve your children with a convicted murderer?

    It took her a year to ask Jordan about the murder. She sighs: “I can’t fathom him doing something like that.”

    Ho-kaaay.

    Anyhow, sometime around 2006, or shortly after this Toledo Blade story came out, the supportjohnnie website went offline. Did the bloom come off the Johnnie+Pamela rose, or did Johnnie just move on? The Toledo Blade story was written by Robin Erb, who describes her reporting as “the intersection of public policy and health”, yet her most prominent stories all seem to be about murders and sex.

    tldr: Pulling at the thread of a random video unravels a trail of middle aged white women indulging in jungle fever, which through the magic of the Fake News Machine gets laundered into human interest stories about unjust conviction and the hope of prison reform.

    The rot goes deep and has been festering a long time.

    ——

    * Years ago I happened to read—or tried to read—her first (1993) book, The Mole People, about the supposedly thousands of homeless people living in subterranean cities beneath Manhattan, in a sort updated liberal’s version of the Hollow Earth-type science fiction, which at the time sparked a minor moral panic about the poor neglected Troglodyte-Americans. (This was of course before the modern view came into vogue that dispossessed white-ish people living underground in fear and agony was a good thing.) Going through the book, it quickly became apparent to me the book was, at best, confabulations, even while the respectable press treated her to glowing reviews interspersed with virtue-signalling cries to “do something” about people who mostly didn’t exist. (According to Wiki, Jennifer Toth is a “British journalist” but Toth is a Hungarian name, so she might descend from 1933-ish émigrés.)

    • Thanks: Mike Tre
  94. @syonredux
    A new adaptation of Dahl's The Witches is on HBO MAX. Vox is not happy.....

    Roald Dahl is one of the most celebrated children’s authors who ever lived. But he was also indisputably one of the most bigoted. He was a profound anti-Semite, perpetuating anti-Semitic tropes and falsehoods — like that of Jewish people controlling the economy and the publishing industry. In 1983, Dahl, then 67, told The New Statesman that Jewish people “provoke animosity” and blamed them for being too “submissive” to fight back during the Holocaust. “I mean, there’s always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere,” he said. “Even a stinker like Hitler didn’t just pick on them for no reason.”
     

    Dahl has also been widely read as a misogynistic writer, in large part due to the openly misogynistic theme of The Witches, in which women are literally demonized for dressing up, feminizing their appearances, and framed as monsters lurking inside seemingly sweet and complacent disguises. They’re also coded as anti-Semitic, with large, hooked noses, reptilian features, a ready stash of mysterious cash, and a plot to take over the world and kill children, all tropes derived from longstanding anti-Semitic conspiracies.
     

    Yet Zemeckis’s version of The Witches seems to offer nothing whatsoever to attempt to remedy the embedded issues in Dahl’s original writing.
     

    The anti-Semitism Dahl himself professed doesn’t necessarily play a role in most of his other works, but it’s directly relevant to The Witches, a story that’s explicitly about detecting imposters in the midst of society. This is, to be blunt, the theme of most anti-Semitic conspiracies throughout history, and has led in its most extreme form to the idea that Jewish people “hide” in plain sight while essentially controlling the world.
     

    In The Witches, witches hide in plain sight by disguising themselves as ordinary women — but the tells that give them away are also coded as anti-Semitic: they’re bald beneath their wigs, have reptile-like hands and feet, and have noses that expand when they sniff out children. The grand high witch also speaks with a German accent, one that can easily pass for Yiddish.
     

    The 1990 film unfortunately perpetuated all of these traits, and I hoped that Zemeckis’s version would take pains to shift its witches far away from this stereotype. But it’s not clear if any attempt was made to remove the story’s discriminatory bits. At least the hooked noses are gone. Even so, there’s a lot of anti-Semitic coding ported over, especially when you’re also trying to signal a commitment to diversity by casting Black actors (and an entirely atonal Chris Rock as narrator) to deliver this story. It seems as though zero forethought or even insight went into the portrayal of the witches; and honestly, perhaps this movie needed to hire a culture critic as a consultant in order to save it from itself.
     
    https://www.vox.com/culture/21526708/the-witches-movie-2020-review-roald-dahl-antisemitism

    Replies: @John Derbyshire, @John Milton’s Ghost, @SFG, @Nicholas Stix, @AndrewR, @Steve in Greensboro, @anon

    Here’s a trailer from the Roeg-Henson 1990 original movie. Lower vibrancy quotient.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Steve in Greensboro

    Saw The Witches when I was ten when it first came out. It really creeped me out. I recently re-watched some clips online, and the practical makeup effects still hold up. Acting-wise, Angelica Huston is the MVP:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT8YfhSBN-w


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ2nHAeWZZI

  95. @Steve in Greensboro
    @syonredux

    Here's a trailer from the Roeg-Henson 1990 original movie. Lower vibrancy quotient.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_ZyqaN_XNM

    Replies: @syonredux

    Saw The Witches when I was ten when it first came out. It really creeped me out. I recently re-watched some clips online, and the practical makeup effects still hold up. Acting-wise, Angelica Huston is the MVP:

  96. “the illusion of meritocracy”

    Irrelevanf. One can work hard and be nice without possessing any merit of which to speak. Outside the limited merit of being hard-working and nice.

    Who among as has not worked hard at something knowing all th while that you sucked at it?

  97. @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    Being nice leads to White Supremacy.

    Or it might be the other way around, I forget.

    Meanwhile..

    https://i.ibb.co/86bXbMm/Screenshot-20201023-195740-RT-News.jpg

    Replies: @Dago Shoes, @El Dato, @AndrewR, @profnasty, @guest

    A vote against democracy, you say? Hmm.

    Wait a minute. [Does doubletake.] Vote…democracy. Don’t those two have something to do with eachother?

  98. @International Jew
    Keep it real. Snarl at whites.

    Replies: @guest

    Kill whitey. Also, kill whitey.

  99. anon[287] • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux
    A new adaptation of Dahl's The Witches is on HBO MAX. Vox is not happy.....

    Roald Dahl is one of the most celebrated children’s authors who ever lived. But he was also indisputably one of the most bigoted. He was a profound anti-Semite, perpetuating anti-Semitic tropes and falsehoods — like that of Jewish people controlling the economy and the publishing industry. In 1983, Dahl, then 67, told The New Statesman that Jewish people “provoke animosity” and blamed them for being too “submissive” to fight back during the Holocaust. “I mean, there’s always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere,” he said. “Even a stinker like Hitler didn’t just pick on them for no reason.”
     

    Dahl has also been widely read as a misogynistic writer, in large part due to the openly misogynistic theme of The Witches, in which women are literally demonized for dressing up, feminizing their appearances, and framed as monsters lurking inside seemingly sweet and complacent disguises. They’re also coded as anti-Semitic, with large, hooked noses, reptilian features, a ready stash of mysterious cash, and a plot to take over the world and kill children, all tropes derived from longstanding anti-Semitic conspiracies.
     

    Yet Zemeckis’s version of The Witches seems to offer nothing whatsoever to attempt to remedy the embedded issues in Dahl’s original writing.
     

    The anti-Semitism Dahl himself professed doesn’t necessarily play a role in most of his other works, but it’s directly relevant to The Witches, a story that’s explicitly about detecting imposters in the midst of society. This is, to be blunt, the theme of most anti-Semitic conspiracies throughout history, and has led in its most extreme form to the idea that Jewish people “hide” in plain sight while essentially controlling the world.
     

    In The Witches, witches hide in plain sight by disguising themselves as ordinary women — but the tells that give them away are also coded as anti-Semitic: they’re bald beneath their wigs, have reptile-like hands and feet, and have noses that expand when they sniff out children. The grand high witch also speaks with a German accent, one that can easily pass for Yiddish.
     

    The 1990 film unfortunately perpetuated all of these traits, and I hoped that Zemeckis’s version would take pains to shift its witches far away from this stereotype. But it’s not clear if any attempt was made to remove the story’s discriminatory bits. At least the hooked noses are gone. Even so, there’s a lot of anti-Semitic coding ported over, especially when you’re also trying to signal a commitment to diversity by casting Black actors (and an entirely atonal Chris Rock as narrator) to deliver this story. It seems as though zero forethought or even insight went into the portrayal of the witches; and honestly, perhaps this movie needed to hire a culture critic as a consultant in order to save it from itself.
     
    https://www.vox.com/culture/21526708/the-witches-movie-2020-review-roald-dahl-antisemitism

    Replies: @John Derbyshire, @John Milton’s Ghost, @SFG, @Nicholas Stix, @AndrewR, @Steve in Greensboro, @anon

    I’ve always thought the Gringots in the Harry Potter movies are caricatures of Jews: short people with big noses, ugly, balding, run the banks, love money and treasures, cater to both sides to maximize profit just like Jews traditionally in warring Europe prior to WWII. Maybe that’s why JK Rowlings is being raked over the coals these days, i.e. it ain’t about the trannies, it’s payback time for the Gringots.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @anon

    Dunno. M-to-F trans types are a spiteful bunch.....

    , @SFG
    @anon

    There were people arguing that, actually. I think she looked generally liberal enough nobody took that seriously. But now, who knows?

  100. @Reg Cæsar

    to pacify and control Black and Brown bodies in order to better condition them to be compliant and further reproduce
     
    We want them to reproduce? News to me.

    Working hard and being nice is not going to dismantle systemic racism.

     

    "Work hard" and "be nice" are standards. Standards are racist. (They are. Think about it.)

    Holding young people to standards will not dismantle systemic racism. It is systemic racism!

    Replies: @Lagertha

    wait until full war on Pedos! Many people, here, on Unz, need to wake up. Digital warriors of no regional bounds, hate pedos and will go after them. So many of you are on their systems. Good Bye, hahaaaa. Pedos need to be arrested and, well, destroyed. I would like public hangings or burning pedos at the stake… that’s my Halloween spirit. Diddling with kids is wrong. F*cking and torturing kids is wrong.

  101. @Kronos
    @Not Raul

    It’s not that much of a loss. Education Realist has written some superb stuff exposing KIPP for juking it’s stats and stealing the best blacks/hispanics from low-ability public schools.

    https://media.glassdoor.com/sqll/389177/kipp-nyc-squarelogo.png

    My favorite is “White kids don’t do KIPP.”

    https://educationrealist.wordpress.com/2014/07/24/parents-and-schools/

    Replies: @vhrm

    stealing the best blacks/hispanics from low-ability public schools.

    All the “good” schools at every level “steal” the best students of all races from lesser schools. That’s the main thing that makes them “good” or at least “not bad”.

    Hasn’t that been the general takeaway of all these realism-tilted discussions of 5 decades of education reform that never closes “the gaps” ?

    However some research shows that there is at least a modest effect of KIPP’s efforts at least in terms of college enrollment with randomized applicants to KIPP middle schools: 48% college admission for those in KIPP middle-school and 41% for those not). i’ll hasten to add i think is a poor choice of metric for this demographic. A solid military or trades job (or even staying out of jail or age at first child) would be at least as good to look at as measures of success.
    https://www.educationnext.org/new-research-kipp-charter-middle-schools-can-improve-early-college-outcomes/

  102. @anon
    @syonredux

    I've always thought the Gringots in the Harry Potter movies are caricatures of Jews: short people with big noses, ugly, balding, run the banks, love money and treasures, cater to both sides to maximize profit just like Jews traditionally in warring Europe prior to WWII. Maybe that's why JK Rowlings is being raked over the coals these days, i.e. it ain't about the trannies, it's payback time for the Gringots.

    Replies: @syonredux, @SFG

    Dunno. M-to-F trans types are a spiteful bunch…..

  103. @Neuday
    @The Alarmist


    How about, “Because you just can’t help your damned selves” ?
     
    Might as well be "Joggers gonna jog", or "Layabout, Chimp Out".

    They gist seems to be that Western Civilization is a White thing, and being anti-racism requires a lack of civility. The negro has long been accused of generally being uncivilizable savages, and Kendi and many others now agree. Working hard and being "nice" are what White people do. Africa wins again.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    Africa wins again.

    Assuming that Out of Africa hypothesis is true, my corollary is that there was a good reason we got the hell out of Africa. And just when we thought we were out, we pull ourselves back in.

  104. @AndrewR
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    (((Democracy))) in 2020 is defined as inherently good for the Jews. Anything that's bad for them is undemocratic.

    Replies: @Francis Miville

    Not specifically in 2020. Absolutely all Catholic and even Agnostic French moralists have been stating what you say since the Revolution of 1789 and before : democracy is any form of government, dictatorial or otherwise, that serves Jews over non-Jews, and tyranny is any form of government threatening to confiscate Jewish property. Humanism is any philosophy that postulates the superiority of the synagogue over the Church.

  105. @anon
    @syonredux

    I've always thought the Gringots in the Harry Potter movies are caricatures of Jews: short people with big noses, ugly, balding, run the banks, love money and treasures, cater to both sides to maximize profit just like Jews traditionally in warring Europe prior to WWII. Maybe that's why JK Rowlings is being raked over the coals these days, i.e. it ain't about the trannies, it's payback time for the Gringots.

    Replies: @syonredux, @SFG

    There were people arguing that, actually. I think she looked generally liberal enough nobody took that seriously. But now, who knows?

  106. @Calvin Hobbes
    @AndrewR


    The “content of their character” thing was a ruse meant to deceive well-meaning, gullible whites.
     
    I doubt that MLK was intentionally perpetuating a ruse when he said it. He said it because it sounded good, without worrying about what a reasonable operational meaning might be. But he never would have opposed preferences or reparations for blacks and would have bullshitted to explain why there was no conflict between that and the “content of their character” thing.

    I think the right term for the “content of their character” thing is “rhetorical flourish”.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind

    “Content of their character” may have been akin to “From each according to his ability” — a kind of end state of a social transformation, but not necessarily the condition during the “dictatorship of the proletariat” phase?

  107. @John Milton’s Ghost
    Part of the reason why “conservative” efforts at educational reform are bound to fail is that every teacher is trained at a university in an education department. Charter school teachers the same as public school ones, ditto private schools. Only private schools have some discretion in some states to hire outside education programs. These students are generally average IQ at best, and among the lowest scorers among all university degrees. And education departments are often places where scholars recycle watered down identity politics from lit and sociology. (Ed scholars publish a lot, but most of it is derivative and short, quantity trumping quality.)

    Yes BLM and the Great Awokening shifted things, but I imagine before that the teachers at the ground level at these schools softened and eroded whatever reasonable principles the institutions established.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Yes BLM and the Great Awokening shifted things, but I imagine before that the teachers at the ground level at these schools softened and eroded whatever reasonable principles the institutions established.

    Indeed. ‘Personnel is policy’ is as close to an iron law as there is.

  108. @AndrewR
    @syonredux

    Roald Dahl wasn't nearly anti-Semitic enough. He allowed himself to be used as a sex toy for an American high society slut Clare Booth Luce, who was in an open marriage with the media mega-magnate Henry Luce, in order to win her (and thus Henry) over to the (((British))) position towards Germany.

    Her many other lovers included JFK's dad and Winston Churchill's son Randolph.

    Replies: @Dissident

    Roald Dahl wasn’t nearly anti-Semitic enough. He allowed himself to be used as a sex toy for an American high society slut

    I was about to mock this characterization; this portrayal of a grown, mentally competent, independent, highly accomplished man as the mere sex toy of a woman; as her pitiful victim. But then I considered, thanks to your subtle highlighting of the fact, that Jews apparently were involved. And I remembered just how wily, lubricious and ruthless we Jews excel in being…

    No, there’s nothing less-than-rational or reasonable in effectively denying the agency of as much as 90+ % of a general population, maintaining that they are but hapless, benighted pawns manipulated to act against their own interests and desires by the roughly 2-3% of the population. Repeatedly, continually, for millennia. Nor, of course, could such a narrative ever reasonably be seen as in any way patronizing, insulting or demeaning to the demographic that comprises the overwhelming majority. Only a rabid Jew or hopeless boomer cuck could ever think otherwise.

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