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Senator John McCain, who turns 80 today, is in a primary tomorrow against Republican challenger Kelli Ward. Recent polls showed McCain in the lead.

One amusing aspect is the challenger’s summary of McCain’s policies:

Establishment John McCain’s national security policy seems to be “Invade the World, Invite the World” as The American Conservative Magazine so memorably put it a few years ago.

I see that the Invade / Invite meme shows up in a lot of the coverage of this race in the conservative press and in some of the coverage by local Arizona outlets, but not in national mainstream press coverage.

I really should have my own Guinness Book record for consistently devising the world’s slowest spreading viral content.

 
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  1. Steve how come you never talk about people on the Right who are invade the world & uninvite the world and people on the Left who are uninvade the world and invite the world.

    Donald Trump has neocon supporters like K.T MacFarland for example and Crooked Hildabeast has anti-war supporters like The Dixie Chicks.

    It’s not so black & white Steve.

    • Replies: @Glossy
    @Jefferson

    David Frum is invade/uninvite. Sincere, idealistic lefties are uninvade/invite. I follow a guy in Twitter named Scott Horton who's like that.

    Replies: @Njguy73

    , @Anon
    @Jefferson

    I'm uninvade and disinvite.

    However, I like trade. Send us cheap stuff, we send you money. You keep the people and sweatshop labor.

    Like textiles, for example.

    Let Norma Rae go on welfare. Or open a nail salon.

    Too bad we can't have corrupt, Asian style tariffs on select manufacturing. But labor intensive commodities? Who cares. Whatever.

    And maybe a special fuck you for China. But mostly free trade.

    , @BenKenobi
    @Jefferson

    Interesting take - politics in the west has shifted from the two poles of right/left to a quadrant of invade/invite.

    invade/uninvite | uninvade/uninvite
    invade/invite | uninvade/invite

    , @RadicalCenter
    @Jefferson

    Whichever party has been in power, they have pursued a policy of invade the world and invite the world. Hence Steve is right to focus on and attack that sick combination of policies, even if there are obviously people who have the combination of viewpoints that you mention.

    , @jtgw
    @Jefferson

    It seems to be the chosen policy of the elite, the Deep State. Stir up trouble abroad, create a refugee crisis and then force taxpayers to pay to resettle the refugees next door to them.

    , @George Taylor
    @Jefferson

    I wonder how anti-war the Dixie Chicks are when it comes to fighting WW-G (which Steve does talk about) against Putin's Russia?

  2. And unless we forget, she left out the ever important: In hock to the World!

  3. One consolation for coming up with the world’s slowest spreading viral content is that it shouldn’t be hard to backtrack it to its source.

    BTW, it’s such a disgrace that Arizona keeps sending McCain back to the senate. He really needs to be put out to pasture. He’s an embarrassment.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Harry Baldwin

    "BTW, it’s such a disgrace that Arizona keeps sending McCain back to the senate. He really needs to be put out to pasture. He’s an embarrassment."

    The longer politicians are in office, the more political clout and backscratching benefits they tend to accumulate, and they are more likely to be able to bring in strong support behind their big agendas when they need it.

    I suspect for most Arizona voters, it comes down to a known name brand and whether he has been bringing in make-work projects and other pork barrel benefits to his home constituents, who are thinking in terms of 'what's in it for me' more than they are about what impact he is having on the rest of the country.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @Former Darfur

    , @Ivy
    @Harry Baldwin

    McCain may be running to protect the seat on the Armed Services Committee. Given his hawkish past, it wouldn't be much of a stretch to imagine some clandestine Clinton/Neo-Con support.

    , @AndrewR
    @Harry Baldwin

    His mother is 104 and still kicking. We may have three or more terms with him in office :(

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    , @Another Canadian
    @Harry Baldwin


    BTW, it’s such a disgrace that Arizona keeps sending McCain back to the senate. He really needs to be put out to pasture. He’s an embarrassment.
     
    McCain should have been put out to pasture back when he was doing favors for Charlie Keating and American Continental Corporation / Lincoln Savings & Loan. I'm not sure how McCain slipped the noose since John Glenn could never be considered for President after being part of the Keating Five.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

  4. Ron Unz got 1% of the vote in the CA gubernatorial primary behind 7 other GOP hopelessfuls.

    McCain (a bete noire for Unz.com) is beating Ward 37-34 in a recent Breitbart poll (which Breitbart calls ‘razor-thin’)

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/29/exclusive-breitbartgravis-arizona-poll-shows-razor-thin-margin-between-john-mccain-kelli-ward-heading-into-election/

    Better get a new set of blades.

    When it comes to ‘Invade the World Invite the World’ it looks like its…

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @anony-mouse

    When billionaires team-up with Leftists, it's a powerful combo.....

    , @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    @anony-mouse

    "When it comes to ‘Invade the World Invite the World’ it looks like its…"
    It looks like ellipses gone crazy.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton

  5. Congrats on getting some much overdue recognition for your talented writing.

  6. @Jefferson
    Steve how come you never talk about people on the Right who are invade the world & uninvite the world and people on the Left who are uninvade the world and invite the world.

    Donald Trump has neocon supporters like K.T MacFarland for example and Crooked Hildabeast has anti-war supporters like The Dixie Chicks.

    It's not so black & white Steve.

    Replies: @Glossy, @Anon, @BenKenobi, @RadicalCenter, @jtgw, @George Taylor

    David Frum is invade/uninvite. Sincere, idealistic lefties are uninvade/invite. I follow a guy in Twitter named Scott Horton who’s like that.

    • Replies: @Njguy73
    @Glossy

    I've heard this somewhere:

    If you want the government to meddle in domestic affairs, you're a liberal.
    If you want the government to meddle in foreign affairs, you're a conservative.
    If you want the government to meddle in domestic and foreign affairs, you're a moderate.
    If you want the government to meddle nowhere, you're an extremist.

    Replies: @Lurker, @Steve from Detroit

  7. Yes very talented writing.

    But if it gets linked to losing campaigns…

    • Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    @anony-mouse

    "But if it gets linked to losing campaigns…"
    Why do people finish a statement with ellipses? It's meant to signify an omission.

    Replies: @Cletus Rothschild, @res

  8. @anony-mouse
    Ron Unz got 1% of the vote in the CA gubernatorial primary behind 7 other GOP hopelessfuls.

    McCain (a bete noire for Unz.com) is beating Ward 37-34 in a recent Breitbart poll (which Breitbart calls 'razor-thin')

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/29/exclusive-breitbartgravis-arizona-poll-shows-razor-thin-margin-between-john-mccain-kelli-ward-heading-into-election/

    Better get a new set of blades.

    When it comes to 'Invade the World Invite the World' it looks like its...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ6JxAgmxXg

    Replies: @syonredux, @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

    When billionaires team-up with Leftists, it’s a powerful combo…..

  9. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    One consolation for coming up with the world’s slowest spreading viral content is that it shouldn't be hard to backtrack it to its source.

    BTW, it's such a disgrace that Arizona keeps sending McCain back to the senate. He really needs to be put out to pasture. He's an embarrassment.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Ivy, @AndrewR, @Another Canadian

    “BTW, it’s such a disgrace that Arizona keeps sending McCain back to the senate. He really needs to be put out to pasture. He’s an embarrassment.”

    The longer politicians are in office, the more political clout and backscratching benefits they tend to accumulate, and they are more likely to be able to bring in strong support behind their big agendas when they need it.

    I suspect for most Arizona voters, it comes down to a known name brand and whether he has been bringing in make-work projects and other pork barrel benefits to his home constituents, who are thinking in terms of ‘what’s in it for me’ more than they are about what impact he is having on the rest of the country.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Anonymous

    Re-electing McCain is not in the interests of Arizonans, either, if they don't think it's in their interest to have more of their kids and grandkids needlessly killed, maimed, or traumatized in unnecessary, nondefensive, unauthorized wars. Arizonans also pay interest-- soon to be much higher interest -- on the massive deficit spending McCain has supported and still advocates. Arizonans are also physically, economically, and culturally harmed and marginalized by the in going waves of legal and illegal aliens from the third world whom McCain loves to let in, more than people in most states.

    To vote against McCain in the primary, then, it's not even necessary to consider the interests of the whole country. Arizonans' interests don't lie with McCain, either.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @Former Darfur
    @Anonymous

    John McCain may have been a traitor, and then again, he may not have been. I believe we owe it to him to clear him if he wasn't and we owe it to us to determine for sure if he was, even if properly punishing him is impossible.

    Either way, he is an insane son of a bitch and a bad tooth needing pulling.

    People re-elect Senators because the Senate has used seniority as a way to protect its members from having to get a real job, over and above the general preference for incumbents shown by our bovine populace. He's a porker, like all several term senators.

  10. Does anybody else think that picture looks more like Netanyahu than McCain? Of course, the title “Invade the World, Invite the World” would be insane in relation to him, but anyway…

    • Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    @Anonymous

    "but anyway…"
    Ellipses! Do you know about them?

  11. I would settle for uninvite and provide strategic air support in proxy wars.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Polynikes

    When have we ever seen one without the other? All empires end up full of their enemies.

  12. @Harry Baldwin
    One consolation for coming up with the world’s slowest spreading viral content is that it shouldn't be hard to backtrack it to its source.

    BTW, it's such a disgrace that Arizona keeps sending McCain back to the senate. He really needs to be put out to pasture. He's an embarrassment.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Ivy, @AndrewR, @Another Canadian

    McCain may be running to protect the seat on the Armed Services Committee. Given his hawkish past, it wouldn’t be much of a stretch to imagine some clandestine Clinton/Neo-Con support.

  13. The big difference between Obama and Bush is that the former loves loves loves his drone attacks and secret Libyan Arms to Syria via Turkey deals and various back door maneuverings (no pun intended) with Iran and who knows else. While GWB favored more open use of US force, less drones, and more overt pressure.

    Bush was the “Open” President who was predictable and public in what he did, and Obama is “Mr. Secret War” particularly with a slavish press that views him as a living god.

    McCain has been in the Senate and will be forever because unfortunately Nationalism is not a winning formula. It attracts sadly in this country anyway a ceiling of 40% at most; that’s White men and working class White women plus a tiny fraction of Non-Whites and the Professional White female demo.

    McCain might as well be the face of Globalism, with either Obama’s Secret War or Bush’s Open War match to mass immavasion; and he’ll likely get re-elected. [Please God prove me wrong.] For a Lady Lawyer or Real Estate saleswoman or whatever, more mass migration means cheaper nannies, cooks, gardeners, etc. What’s not to love?

    If Mexico sent nothing but Salma Hayek clones the border would be closed tomorrow.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Whiskey

    If Mexico sent nothing but Salma Hayek clones, we wouldn't care about Uninviting the world.

    Replies: @peterike, @Njguy73

    , @dsgntd_plyr
    @Whiskey


    Bush was the “Open” President who was predictable and public in what he did, and Obama is “Mr. Secret War” particularly with a slavish press that views him as a living god.
     
    there isn't any significant difference, policy wise, between bush 2 and obama

    Replies: @guest

  14. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Jefferson
    Steve how come you never talk about people on the Right who are invade the world & uninvite the world and people on the Left who are uninvade the world and invite the world.

    Donald Trump has neocon supporters like K.T MacFarland for example and Crooked Hildabeast has anti-war supporters like The Dixie Chicks.

    It's not so black & white Steve.

    Replies: @Glossy, @Anon, @BenKenobi, @RadicalCenter, @jtgw, @George Taylor

    I’m uninvade and disinvite.

    However, I like trade. Send us cheap stuff, we send you money. You keep the people and sweatshop labor.

    Like textiles, for example.

    Let Norma Rae go on welfare. Or open a nail salon.

    Too bad we can’t have corrupt, Asian style tariffs on select manufacturing. But labor intensive commodities? Who cares. Whatever.

    And maybe a special fuck you for China. But mostly free trade.

  15. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I think it’s a good slogan for dissemination among conservative intellectuals, but not that good for popular appeal among conservative voters. The words “invade” and “invite” have moral connotations among ordinary conservative voters. Generally, ordinary conservatives, even those who now think the Iraq war was a mistake and want a more restrained and less interventionist foreign policy, don’t conceive American interventions as “invasions”, but rather fighting bad people and helping other countries. “Invade” is something Nazis and commies do. And ordinary conservatives who are anti-immigration don’t conceive themselves as being “uninviting” to the rest of the world.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    @Anonymous

    I would like to see a poll that asked young American males:

    "How would you like to see, on a daily basis, 10 to 50 armored troop carriers driving down the main arteries of your town, filled with young Chechens who occupy and dominate you."

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted

  16. @Harry Baldwin
    One consolation for coming up with the world’s slowest spreading viral content is that it shouldn't be hard to backtrack it to its source.

    BTW, it's such a disgrace that Arizona keeps sending McCain back to the senate. He really needs to be put out to pasture. He's an embarrassment.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Ivy, @AndrewR, @Another Canadian

    His mother is 104 and still kicking. We may have three or more terms with him in office 🙁

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @AndrewR


    His mother is 104 and still kicking. We may have three or more terms with him in office
     
    I predict he loses today's primary race. Kelli Ward is a formidable challenger, and its a bad year to be an Establishment neocon stooge.
  17. We’ll probably be stuck with Invade the World/Invite the World until a significant number of silent generation politicians and philosophers either retire or die. They’re stuck in the mindset of post-war America when the consequences of ‘Invite the World’ weren’t quite so obvious, and Invade the World at least appeared to be the best course for a damaged world.

    Unfortunately, people rarely learn from the folly of their ways, they eventually just die and a new generation brings forth their wacky ideas.

    Also, do voters think McCain’s got another six-years of log rolling, media scheming and fundraising in him?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Fenton Skeegs


    We’ll probably be stuck with Invade the World/Invite the World until a significant number of silent generation politicians and philosophers either retire or die.
     
    Huh? The Silents were thick on the ground by the Reagan administration, and we're still prominent in the Bush II administration--Cheney, Powell, Rumsfeld.

    Sure there are some Congressional has beens like McCain floating around, but the Presidential candidates are *elderly* and are boomers. Silents are completely irrelevant now.

    Heck even Obama's Horsegirls of the Apocalypse--Clinton, Rice and Power--early boomer, late boomer and the lovely Samantha Power is even Gen X. The torch of invade-invite has been passed long back.

    Replies: @E. Rekshun

    , @Stan Adams
    @Fenton Skeegs


    Also, do voters think McCain’s got another six-years of log rolling, media scheming and fundraising in him?
     
    Two words: Strom Thurmond.

    (By the way, there's a story making the rounds today that Strom once made a pass at a teenaged Chelsea Clinton.)
  18. Somewhat off topic, but surely at this point the body count of dead Muslims in the ME under Obama has to have completely eclipsed the toll under W and an active invasion of an Islamic country, no?

    Obama has an infuriating tendency to minimize the role of the Religion of Peace in so much of the death and destruction in the world, but on the other hand his relatively hands-off policy has left actors in the region free to engage in an orgy of killing these last 4-5 years…so is he really the Islamophile he is often accused of being or is he playing 10 dimensional chess and deliberately presiding over a dramatic decline in the future population of the heart of Islam? Or given his deliberate strengthening of Iran is is just Sunnis/Arabs he is most interested in seeing reduced?

  19. @Jefferson
    Steve how come you never talk about people on the Right who are invade the world & uninvite the world and people on the Left who are uninvade the world and invite the world.

    Donald Trump has neocon supporters like K.T MacFarland for example and Crooked Hildabeast has anti-war supporters like The Dixie Chicks.

    It's not so black & white Steve.

    Replies: @Glossy, @Anon, @BenKenobi, @RadicalCenter, @jtgw, @George Taylor

    Interesting take – politics in the west has shifted from the two poles of right/left to a quadrant of invade/invite.

    invade/uninvite | uninvade/uninvite
    invade/invite | uninvade/invite

  20. @Glossy
    @Jefferson

    David Frum is invade/uninvite. Sincere, idealistic lefties are uninvade/invite. I follow a guy in Twitter named Scott Horton who's like that.

    Replies: @Njguy73

    I’ve heard this somewhere:

    If you want the government to meddle in domestic affairs, you’re a liberal.
    If you want the government to meddle in foreign affairs, you’re a conservative.
    If you want the government to meddle in domestic and foreign affairs, you’re a moderate.
    If you want the government to meddle nowhere, you’re an extremist.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Njguy73


    If you want the government to meddle nowhere, you’re an extremist.
     
    Or a populist. Same thing really.
    , @Steve from Detroit
    @Njguy73

    Joe Sobran.

    Replies: @Njguy73

  21. @Jefferson
    Steve how come you never talk about people on the Right who are invade the world & uninvite the world and people on the Left who are uninvade the world and invite the world.

    Donald Trump has neocon supporters like K.T MacFarland for example and Crooked Hildabeast has anti-war supporters like The Dixie Chicks.

    It's not so black & white Steve.

    Replies: @Glossy, @Anon, @BenKenobi, @RadicalCenter, @jtgw, @George Taylor

    Whichever party has been in power, they have pursued a policy of invade the world and invite the world. Hence Steve is right to focus on and attack that sick combination of policies, even if there are obviously people who have the combination of viewpoints that you mention.

  22. @Anonymous
    @Harry Baldwin

    "BTW, it’s such a disgrace that Arizona keeps sending McCain back to the senate. He really needs to be put out to pasture. He’s an embarrassment."

    The longer politicians are in office, the more political clout and backscratching benefits they tend to accumulate, and they are more likely to be able to bring in strong support behind their big agendas when they need it.

    I suspect for most Arizona voters, it comes down to a known name brand and whether he has been bringing in make-work projects and other pork barrel benefits to his home constituents, who are thinking in terms of 'what's in it for me' more than they are about what impact he is having on the rest of the country.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @Former Darfur

    Re-electing McCain is not in the interests of Arizonans, either, if they don’t think it’s in their interest to have more of their kids and grandkids needlessly killed, maimed, or traumatized in unnecessary, nondefensive, unauthorized wars. Arizonans also pay interest– soon to be much higher interest — on the massive deficit spending McCain has supported and still advocates. Arizonans are also physically, economically, and culturally harmed and marginalized by the in going waves of legal and illegal aliens from the third world whom McCain loves to let in, more than people in most states.

    To vote against McCain in the primary, then, it’s not even necessary to consider the interests of the whole country. Arizonans’ interests don’t lie with McCain, either.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @RadicalCenter

    "Re-electing McCain is not in the interests of Arizonans, either, if they don’t think it’s in their interest to have more of their kids and grandkids needlessly killed, maimed, or traumatized in unnecessary, nondefensive, unauthorized wars."

    Most voters who are anti-war vote Democrat and have never voted & never will vote for a Republican. That is why John McCain keeps getting re-elected as senator in Conservative red state Arizona.

    You people here on The Unz vastly overestimate how anti-war Comservative voters are. There is a reason why Conservatives treat the military like they are royalty even during the Vietnam war. Conservatives were not spitting in their faces like Liberals did when they came home from Vietnam. Conservatives don't burn the U.S flag to protest invade the world like Liberals do.

    You all must must be living in a cave if you haven't noticed that the loudest voices in the anti-war movement are Liberal Millennial college students and none of them are voting for Donald Trump.

    The Portlandia type SWPL hipster college students who staged protests shouting "Bush Lied People Died" are not voting for Donald Trump because they see him as racist against Nonwhite people. And to them racism against Nonwhites is a lot worst than going to war.

  23. The most deplorable one [AKA "The Fourth Political Theory"] says:

    You would think that they would update your Wikipedia page to indicate that you originated the meme: Invade the world, Invite the world.

    I mean, it seems more important than shortening Alternative Right to Alt-Right.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @The most deplorable one

    Steve, I believe, is staying honest to the idea of being a renegade, a trailblazer. Of course, I could be full of scheisse by suggesting this. Oh, lordy, how are we gonna get to November!

    Replies: @Jim Christian

    , @Yngvar
    @The most deplorable one

    Hello there! I am a editor at Wikipedia. What seems to be the problem? Can I be of any assistance?

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @bored identity

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @The most deplorable one

    He has a point. Does anyone know the first usage of the term?

  24. Slow and steady wins the race.

    Viral explosions are nice because you can get quick feedback on what works, but they’re usually a flash in the pan.

  25. @The most deplorable one
    You would think that they would update your Wikipedia page to indicate that you originated the meme: Invade the world, Invite the world.

    I mean, it seems more important than shortening Alternative Right to Alt-Right.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Yngvar, @Chrisnonymous

    Steve, I believe, is staying honest to the idea of being a renegade, a trailblazer. Of course, I could be full of scheisse by suggesting this. Oh, lordy, how are we gonna get to November!

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    @Lagertha

    1:Beer;

    2:Football.

    Replies: @Brutusale

  26. @Anonymous
    I think it's a good slogan for dissemination among conservative intellectuals, but not that good for popular appeal among conservative voters. The words "invade" and "invite" have moral connotations among ordinary conservative voters. Generally, ordinary conservatives, even those who now think the Iraq war was a mistake and want a more restrained and less interventionist foreign policy, don't conceive American interventions as "invasions", but rather fighting bad people and helping other countries. "Invade" is something Nazis and commies do. And ordinary conservatives who are anti-immigration don't conceive themselves as being "uninviting" to the rest of the world.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton

    I would like to see a poll that asked young American males:

    “How would you like to see, on a daily basis, 10 to 50 armored troop carriers driving down the main arteries of your town, filled with young Chechens who occupy and dominate you.”

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    @Neil Templeton

    If they stuck to the task of shooting up heavily armed local criminals and their "communities" and gangs of violent drug traffickers/colonists from neighboring countries, as opposed to being ruled by the aforementioned groups, I'd chuck rose petals in their path.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton

  27. @Jefferson
    Steve how come you never talk about people on the Right who are invade the world & uninvite the world and people on the Left who are uninvade the world and invite the world.

    Donald Trump has neocon supporters like K.T MacFarland for example and Crooked Hildabeast has anti-war supporters like The Dixie Chicks.

    It's not so black & white Steve.

    Replies: @Glossy, @Anon, @BenKenobi, @RadicalCenter, @jtgw, @George Taylor

    It seems to be the chosen policy of the elite, the Deep State. Stir up trouble abroad, create a refugee crisis and then force taxpayers to pay to resettle the refugees next door to them.

  28. OT: Borders and fences: Back-in-the-day with my American boyfriend, we thought it was big fun one dumb-ass August ‘last day’, to drive to the USSR/Finnish border (he was visiting me in Finland) to see what a border actually looks like. We were in for a ‘Myth Busters’ like experience in 1978.

    The border is basically 3 borders. The Finnish army guys were happy (so bored and impressed with our “Americanness”) to show us the first fence: very high; Finnish look-outs like lifeguards on the CA coast, but they have automatic weapons. 2nd fence, ominously quiet in that there is a 100- yard sand beach before the fence, and, after the second fence (3rd fence is USSR/now Russia, for those who don’t remember/know).

    The “beach,” of about a football field’s size, was also, about 8’deep of sand, on both sides. The idea is: no one can dig tunnels, or come-up with something engineeringly (my word) to dig through. I mean, this idea of all things, is brilliant!

    Finnish excavators dug 10’deep to remove boulders/sand/stuff and then filled the crater with SAND….sand sucks. We only want sand on beaches, nowhere else…NOWHERE.

    So, the youngish, career army guards said, if we see footsteps on the last “beach,” we have a problem.

  29. Interesting how McCain is generally held up by the media as the Maverick Republican who fully embraces “Invade the World, Invite the World”. There is a strange aura to McCain and his unique appeal to Beltway journalists. In many ways, Beltway journalists have always been McCain’s base of support. Frankly, McCain’s appeal never made any sense to me.

    It looks like McCain’s military record has a few holes in it which would make him somewhat vulnerable to blackmail, but the key hole in his record is likely his marriage to Cindy McCain. Cindy McCain’s father, Jim Hensley, built a massive fortune on an exclusive Anheuser-Busch beer distributorship and a horse racetrack operation likely with a little help from organized crime.

    Always interesting what names do not seem to warrant a Wikipedia page. The patron sponsor of Jim Hensley was Kemper Marley, a long time Arizona political king maker with some shadowy connections. It looks like Jim Hensley was rewarded the lucrative beer distributorship for taking the fall for Kemper Marley in an earlier illegal alcohol distribution operation. Kemper Marley was on the board of directors of the bank that would finance Bugsy Siegel’s Flamingo Casino. Despite his long influence in Arizona politics and the Arizona history museum that bears his name, Kemper Marley lacks a Wikipedia entry for some reason.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemper_Marley

    On June 2, 1976, investigative journalist, Don Bolles, was the victim of a car bombing in Phoenix, Arizona, likely tied to organized crime. Although never proven, allegations were that the attack was in connection with Bolles investigation of Kemper Marley. Bolles last words were “They finally got me. The Mafia. Emprise. Find John.”

    Emprise exists today as Delaware North (after the address of their headquarters in Buffalo, New York) and continues to operate casinos, hotel and other attractions. In 1971, Emprise and other mafia associates were found to be illegal “secret” partners in the Frontier Casino back in the 1960’s. One of the “straight” owners of the Frontier in the 1960’s was a young Steve Wynn. The mob interests in the Frontier Casino, including Emprise, were bought out by Howard Hughes and his Mormon handlers in 1967.

    Nice little anecdote. Most of the major casinos “in” Las Vegas are not actually in Las Vegas, but in Paradise, Nevada. The original name of the Frontier Casino was the “Pair-O-Dice” nightclub. I never thought of that pun.

    Regardless, maybe the reason McCain is the perpetual choice of the Establishment and Beltway journalists is that he married into a family fortune with deep organized crime connections.

    Puts things in perspective.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Clifford Brown

    "Interesting how McCain is generally held up by the media as the Maverick Republican"

    That was only during the GOP primaries. When John McCain went up against Barack Hussein Obama the mainstream media no longer labeled him a maverick, they labeled him as someone who should not be elected president because he is too old.

    That same mainstream media won't label Crooked Hildabeast as too old to be president. The mainstream media is only ageist against Republicans.

    Crooked Hildabeast is old enough to be Justin Bieber's grandmother, because she was in her late 40s when he was born.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    , @Lugash
    @Clifford Brown

    A good read on the Bolles murder:

    http://www.roguecolumnist.com/rogue_columnist/2015/09/who-murdered-don-bolles-i.html

    Never forget that McCain thinks that this behaviour is acceptable:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYr9G9C7iTo

    I hope Ward beat the senile old fuck, but it's probably not going to happen.

    , @Brutusale
    @Clifford Brown

    Interesting history to a Bostonian, as Delaware North is the current owner of the TD Bank Garden (though no Bostonian calls it anything other than the Boston Garden), as well as the Boston Bruins of the NHL.

    Looks like chairman Jeremy Jacobs was crooked as well as the cheapest owner in professional sports. And Steve Wynn is about to break ground for a casino about a mile up Route 93 from Jacobs' arena.

  30. @Anonymous
    @Harry Baldwin

    "BTW, it’s such a disgrace that Arizona keeps sending McCain back to the senate. He really needs to be put out to pasture. He’s an embarrassment."

    The longer politicians are in office, the more political clout and backscratching benefits they tend to accumulate, and they are more likely to be able to bring in strong support behind their big agendas when they need it.

    I suspect for most Arizona voters, it comes down to a known name brand and whether he has been bringing in make-work projects and other pork barrel benefits to his home constituents, who are thinking in terms of 'what's in it for me' more than they are about what impact he is having on the rest of the country.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @Former Darfur

    John McCain may have been a traitor, and then again, he may not have been. I believe we owe it to him to clear him if he wasn’t and we owe it to us to determine for sure if he was, even if properly punishing him is impossible.

    Either way, he is an insane son of a bitch and a bad tooth needing pulling.

    People re-elect Senators because the Senate has used seniority as a way to protect its members from having to get a real job, over and above the general preference for incumbents shown by our bovine populace. He’s a porker, like all several term senators.

  31. @Clifford Brown
    Interesting how McCain is generally held up by the media as the Maverick Republican who fully embraces "Invade the World, Invite the World". There is a strange aura to McCain and his unique appeal to Beltway journalists. In many ways, Beltway journalists have always been McCain's base of support. Frankly, McCain's appeal never made any sense to me.

    It looks like McCain's military record has a few holes in it which would make him somewhat vulnerable to blackmail, but the key hole in his record is likely his marriage to Cindy McCain. Cindy McCain's father, Jim Hensley, built a massive fortune on an exclusive Anheuser-Busch beer distributorship and a horse racetrack operation likely with a little help from organized crime.

    Always interesting what names do not seem to warrant a Wikipedia page. The patron sponsor of Jim Hensley was Kemper Marley, a long time Arizona political king maker with some shadowy connections. It looks like Jim Hensley was rewarded the lucrative beer distributorship for taking the fall for Kemper Marley in an earlier illegal alcohol distribution operation. Kemper Marley was on the board of directors of the bank that would finance Bugsy Siegel's Flamingo Casino. Despite his long influence in Arizona politics and the Arizona history museum that bears his name, Kemper Marley lacks a Wikipedia entry for some reason.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemper_Marley

    On June 2, 1976, investigative journalist, Don Bolles, was the victim of a car bombing in Phoenix, Arizona, likely tied to organized crime. Although never proven, allegations were that the attack was in connection with Bolles investigation of Kemper Marley. Bolles last words were "They finally got me. The Mafia. Emprise. Find John."

    Emprise exists today as Delaware North (after the address of their headquarters in Buffalo, New York) and continues to operate casinos, hotel and other attractions. In 1971, Emprise and other mafia associates were found to be illegal "secret" partners in the Frontier Casino back in the 1960's. One of the "straight" owners of the Frontier in the 1960's was a young Steve Wynn. The mob interests in the Frontier Casino, including Emprise, were bought out by Howard Hughes and his Mormon handlers in 1967.

    Nice little anecdote. Most of the major casinos "in" Las Vegas are not actually in Las Vegas, but in Paradise, Nevada. The original name of the Frontier Casino was the "Pair-O-Dice" nightclub. I never thought of that pun.

    Regardless, maybe the reason McCain is the perpetual choice of the Establishment and Beltway journalists is that he married into a family fortune with deep organized crime connections.

    Puts things in perspective.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Lugash, @Brutusale

    “Interesting how McCain is generally held up by the media as the Maverick Republican”

    That was only during the GOP primaries. When John McCain went up against Barack Hussein Obama the mainstream media no longer labeled him a maverick, they labeled him as someone who should not be elected president because he is too old.

    That same mainstream media won’t label Crooked Hildabeast as too old to be president. The mainstream media is only ageist against Republicans.

    Crooked Hildabeast is old enough to be Justin Bieber’s grandmother, because she was in her late 40s when he was born.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Jefferson

    Truthfully, McCain in '08 looked even worse than Hillary does in '16. He looked like a frail old man one stumble away from breaking his hip.

    Reagan, despite his being well on the way toward full-blown senility, always had a healthy glow about him.

    Lesley Stahl, now of 60 Minutes, was CBS's White House correspondent for most of the Reagan and Bush years. When she was transferred away from the White House in 1986, Reagan granted her a private audience with her husband. She wrote her in her book that, at the beginning of the meeting, his eyes were glazed over and he was almost non-responsive. But when she mentioned that her husband was a Hollywood screenwriter, he immediately came to life and began peppering him with questions. By the end of the meeting, he was making sharp, witty comments.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  32. Being a US Senator must be amazing. Imagine being 80 and being married to an heiress worth 9-figures. You’d figure that relaxing and spending her money would be an attractive proposition, but he’d rather spend another 6 years in the Senate.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @Dave Pinsen

    It's not just McCain, he is currently only the eighth oldest Senator. Grassley will be 83 on election day and he is running for reelection too. It has to be an ego and power issue and I'm sure they can arrange things so their staff handle 75-80% of what comes up in a given day. You would think they would want to setup a trusted protege to take their place and step aside when the time is right, but that doesn't seem to be happening much lately.

  33. @Njguy73
    @Glossy

    I've heard this somewhere:

    If you want the government to meddle in domestic affairs, you're a liberal.
    If you want the government to meddle in foreign affairs, you're a conservative.
    If you want the government to meddle in domestic and foreign affairs, you're a moderate.
    If you want the government to meddle nowhere, you're an extremist.

    Replies: @Lurker, @Steve from Detroit

    If you want the government to meddle nowhere, you’re an extremist.

    Or a populist. Same thing really.

  34. @Fenton Skeegs
    We'll probably be stuck with Invade the World/Invite the World until a significant number of silent generation politicians and philosophers either retire or die. They're stuck in the mindset of post-war America when the consequences of 'Invite the World' weren't quite so obvious, and Invade the World at least appeared to be the best course for a damaged world.

    Unfortunately, people rarely learn from the folly of their ways, they eventually just die and a new generation brings forth their wacky ideas.

    Also, do voters think McCain's got another six-years of log rolling, media scheming and fundraising in him?

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Stan Adams

    We’ll probably be stuck with Invade the World/Invite the World until a significant number of silent generation politicians and philosophers either retire or die.

    Huh? The Silents were thick on the ground by the Reagan administration, and we’re still prominent in the Bush II administration–Cheney, Powell, Rumsfeld.

    Sure there are some Congressional has beens like McCain floating around, but the Presidential candidates are *elderly* and are boomers. Silents are completely irrelevant now.

    Heck even Obama’s Horsegirls of the Apocalypse–Clinton, Rice and Power–early boomer, late boomer and the lovely Samantha Power is even Gen X. The torch of invade-invite has been passed long back.

    • Replies: @E. Rekshun
    @AnotherDad

    Silents are completely irrelevant now.

    Yep, the youngest of the Silent Generation, born in 1945, have been collecting social security for nearly ten years now. Though Medicare and SS recipients still make up a large group of active voters.

    Hillary turns 69 in October and Trump turned 70 two months ago; they're the eldest of the Baby Boomers.

    Replies: @Former Darfur

  35. I really should have my own Guinness Book record for consistently devising the world’s slowest spreading viral content.

    “Invade the World \ Invite the World” is pretty darn awesome.

    It’s slowly spreading only because the establishment is very resistant toward having the abject stupidity of its policies pointed out–so pithily, so cheekily.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @AnotherDad

    I think the third leg of it, "In hock to the world", slowed its adoption down. No one cares about the federal debt anymore. It nearly doubled on Obama's watch and its no big deal.

    Replies: @Stebbing Heuer, @peterike, @tomv

  36. @Lagertha
    @The most deplorable one

    Steve, I believe, is staying honest to the idea of being a renegade, a trailblazer. Of course, I could be full of scheisse by suggesting this. Oh, lordy, how are we gonna get to November!

    Replies: @Jim Christian

    1:Beer;

    2:Football.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Jim Christian

    If the Cankles of Death wins, I'll have to skip the beer and go right to the single malt.

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted

  37. “I really should have my own Guinness Book record for consistently devising the world’s slowest spreading viral content.”

    Maybe you should hire some of the shitlords at http://therightstuff.biz/; they seem pretty good at creating viral content. Maybe they can work up some Pepe memes for you and get Clinton to denounce you live on national TV. Many top keks will be had.

  38. Kelli looks forward to fighting alongside Senator Ted Cruz and President Donald Trump to stop illegal immigration and secure America’s borders

    This helluva example of cognitive disonance proves that Arizona’s grasshopper is not ready to be considered a genuine disciple of Sailerism.

  39. @Neil Templeton
    @Anonymous

    I would like to see a poll that asked young American males:

    "How would you like to see, on a daily basis, 10 to 50 armored troop carriers driving down the main arteries of your town, filled with young Chechens who occupy and dominate you."

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted

    If they stuck to the task of shooting up heavily armed local criminals and their “communities” and gangs of violent drug traffickers/colonists from neighboring countries, as opposed to being ruled by the aforementioned groups, I’d chuck rose petals in their path.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    @Expletive Deleted

    Even so, we would ever rue the day we allowed invaders to determine our destiny. See Battle of Hastings.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  40. Sun Sentinel,08/29/16 – U.S. will meet Obama’s goal of 10,000 Syrian refugees on Monday

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/ct-us-syrian-refugees-20160829-story.html

    The United States will meet President Barack Obama’s goal of admitting 10,000 Syrian refugees into the country on Monday, the White House announced…the United States will also seek to admit about 10,000 Syrian refugees in the coming fiscal year that begins Oct. 1.

  41. @anony-mouse
    Yes very talented writing.

    But if it gets linked to losing campaigns...

    Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

    “But if it gets linked to losing campaigns…”
    Why do people finish a statement with ellipses? It’s meant to signify an omission.

    • Replies: @Cletus Rothschild
    @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

    "Why do people finish a statement with ellipses? It’s meant to signify an omission."

    Why are you making a big deal of them in three different posts when each of them is using them properly? They are not only used for omission; they are also used for the trailing off of a thought, or in one case that you whined about, trailing off of one thought and leading into another.

    , @res
    @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...


    Why do people finish a statement with ellipses? It’s meant to signify an omission.
     
    http://copywriter-editor.com/points-of-ellipsis/

    But ellipsis points have other uses. The two main ones:

    1. To indicate a trailing off of speech or thought
    2. To indicate a pause
     
  42. @Anonymous
    Does anybody else think that picture looks more like Netanyahu than McCain? Of course, the title "Invade the World, Invite the World" would be insane in relation to him, but anyway...

    Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

    “but anyway…”
    Ellipses! Do you know about them?

  43. @anony-mouse
    Ron Unz got 1% of the vote in the CA gubernatorial primary behind 7 other GOP hopelessfuls.

    McCain (a bete noire for Unz.com) is beating Ward 37-34 in a recent Breitbart poll (which Breitbart calls 'razor-thin')

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/29/exclusive-breitbartgravis-arizona-poll-shows-razor-thin-margin-between-john-mccain-kelli-ward-heading-into-election/

    Better get a new set of blades.

    When it comes to 'Invade the World Invite the World' it looks like its...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ6JxAgmxXg

    Replies: @syonredux, @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

    “When it comes to ‘Invade the World Invite the World’ it looks like its…”
    It looks like ellipses gone crazy.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

    The meaning of the ellipse is clear to me. Of course I'm not a pedant.

  44. @AnotherDad

    I really should have my own Guinness Book record for consistently devising the world’s slowest spreading viral content.
     
    "Invade the World \ Invite the World" is pretty darn awesome.

    It's slowly spreading only because the establishment is very resistant toward having the abject stupidity of its policies pointed out--so pithily, so cheekily.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    I think the third leg of it, “In hock to the world”, slowed its adoption down. No one cares about the federal debt anymore. It nearly doubled on Obama’s watch and its no big deal.

    • Replies: @Stebbing Heuer
    @Dave Pinsen

    Yet.

    , @peterike
    @Dave Pinsen


    No one cares about the federal debt anymore. It nearly doubled on Obama’s watch and its no big deal.

     

    True, but should Trump get elected, his chair won't even be warm yet before the stories of "How President Trump is Burdening All Americans with Unbelievable Debt" are running 24 x 7.
    , @tomv
    @Dave Pinsen

    "In hock" was an afterthought. The original formulation was as featured on the AmConMag cover that accompanies the post.

  45. It’s the slow, big memes that rule the world!

    • Replies: @wiseguy
    @AndyBoy

    The Big Lie has met its match in the Big Meme!

  46. @The most deplorable one
    You would think that they would update your Wikipedia page to indicate that you originated the meme: Invade the world, Invite the world.

    I mean, it seems more important than shortening Alternative Right to Alt-Right.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Yngvar, @Chrisnonymous

    Hello there! I am a editor at Wikipedia. What seems to be the problem? Can I be of any assistance?

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    @Yngvar

    Well, first and foremost, it does not mention any of the memes that Steve has been responsible for creating and propagating, like:

    Invade the world, Invite the world,
    The Marriage Gap, (although there is a mention of the idea)
    The first law of female journalism,
    etc.

    In addition, it is generally negatively slanted with many leftist criticisms of Sailer, but given that it is Wikipedia, that perhaps will not change.

    Also, this link now goes nowhere (404):

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/sailer-vs-taylor-round-ii-citizenism-vs-white-nationalism

    It also does not mention one of Steve's most important contributions to Journalism: His series of articles on Golf Courses!

    , @bored identity
    @Yngvar

    The Dirt Gap=another Sailerism

  47. I think historically and otherwise, slow-spreading viral content is what you’re after.

  48. @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    @anony-mouse

    "But if it gets linked to losing campaigns…"
    Why do people finish a statement with ellipses? It's meant to signify an omission.

    Replies: @Cletus Rothschild, @res

    “Why do people finish a statement with ellipses? It’s meant to signify an omission.”

    Why are you making a big deal of them in three different posts when each of them is using them properly? They are not only used for omission; they are also used for the trailing off of a thought, or in one case that you whined about, trailing off of one thought and leading into another.

  49. The way in which alt-right begins to seriously compete with post modern progressivism is by challenging it as a moral system. Steve and the rest, if they want their understanding of the world to become mainstream, need to educate the public as to why their understanding of the world is more moral than blank-slate leftism.

    This is no simple task, but one we can all help accomplish. “Invade the world, invite the world” is an excellent way to start.

    • Replies: @Jason Liu
    @Yak-15

    The first step is to start normalizing hierarchy and criminalizing equality. Emphasis that leftism, as expressed through Enlightenment ideals of equality, means that leftism is based on 18th century pseudoscience.

  50. @Dave Pinsen
    Being a US Senator must be amazing. Imagine being 80 and being married to an heiress worth 9-figures. You'd figure that relaxing and spending her money would be an attractive proposition, but he'd rather spend another 6 years in the Senate.

    Replies: @Barnard

    It’s not just McCain, he is currently only the eighth oldest Senator. Grassley will be 83 on election day and he is running for reelection too. It has to be an ego and power issue and I’m sure they can arrange things so their staff handle 75-80% of what comes up in a given day. You would think they would want to setup a trusted protege to take their place and step aside when the time is right, but that doesn’t seem to be happening much lately.

  51. @Dave Pinsen
    @AnotherDad

    I think the third leg of it, "In hock to the world", slowed its adoption down. No one cares about the federal debt anymore. It nearly doubled on Obama's watch and its no big deal.

    Replies: @Stebbing Heuer, @peterike, @tomv

    Yet.

  52. The most deplorable one [AKA "The Fourth Political Theory"] says:

    Victor Orban not happy with imivasion:

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @The most deplorable one

    Magnificent speech, it is hard to believe any politician in this day and age can speak like that. Too bad he isn't running for President of the US.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  53. Another Canadian [AKA "Zinjanthropus"] says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    One consolation for coming up with the world’s slowest spreading viral content is that it shouldn't be hard to backtrack it to its source.

    BTW, it's such a disgrace that Arizona keeps sending McCain back to the senate. He really needs to be put out to pasture. He's an embarrassment.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Ivy, @AndrewR, @Another Canadian

    BTW, it’s such a disgrace that Arizona keeps sending McCain back to the senate. He really needs to be put out to pasture. He’s an embarrassment.

    McCain should have been put out to pasture back when he was doing favors for Charlie Keating and American Continental Corporation / Lincoln Savings & Loan. I’m not sure how McCain slipped the noose since John Glenn could never be considered for President after being part of the Keating Five.

    • Agree: Avenge Harambe, Barnard
    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Another Canadian

    The beltway media and mandarin class kept, and keep, McCain afloat when he should have disappeared into obscurity after W thrashed him in 2000.

    As an aside, it's apparent how much of a threat Trump is to that group's influence and paychecks by how viciously they attack him. Trump seems to have all the right enemies.

  54. The most deplorable one [AKA "The Fourth Political Theory"] says:
    @Yngvar
    @The most deplorable one

    Hello there! I am a editor at Wikipedia. What seems to be the problem? Can I be of any assistance?

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @bored identity

    Well, first and foremost, it does not mention any of the memes that Steve has been responsible for creating and propagating, like:

    Invade the world, Invite the world,
    The Marriage Gap, (although there is a mention of the idea)
    The first law of female journalism,
    etc.

    In addition, it is generally negatively slanted with many leftist criticisms of Sailer, but given that it is Wikipedia, that perhaps will not change.

    Also, this link now goes nowhere (404):

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/sailer-vs-taylor-round-ii-citizenism-vs-white-nationalism

    It also does not mention one of Steve’s most important contributions to Journalism: His series of articles on Golf Courses!

  55. @The most deplorable one
    You would think that they would update your Wikipedia page to indicate that you originated the meme: Invade the world, Invite the world.

    I mean, it seems more important than shortening Alternative Right to Alt-Right.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Yngvar, @Chrisnonymous

    He has a point. Does anyone know the first usage of the term?

  56. @Whiskey
    The big difference between Obama and Bush is that the former loves loves loves his drone attacks and secret Libyan Arms to Syria via Turkey deals and various back door maneuverings (no pun intended) with Iran and who knows else. While GWB favored more open use of US force, less drones, and more overt pressure.

    Bush was the "Open" President who was predictable and public in what he did, and Obama is "Mr. Secret War" particularly with a slavish press that views him as a living god.

    McCain has been in the Senate and will be forever because unfortunately Nationalism is not a winning formula. It attracts sadly in this country anyway a ceiling of 40% at most; that's White men and working class White women plus a tiny fraction of Non-Whites and the Professional White female demo.

    McCain might as well be the face of Globalism, with either Obama's Secret War or Bush's Open War match to mass immavasion; and he'll likely get re-elected. [Please God prove me wrong.] For a Lady Lawyer or Real Estate saleswoman or whatever, more mass migration means cheaper nannies, cooks, gardeners, etc. What's not to love?

    If Mexico sent nothing but Salma Hayek clones the border would be closed tomorrow.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @dsgntd_plyr

    If Mexico sent nothing but Salma Hayek clones, we wouldn’t care about Uninviting the world.

    • Replies: @peterike
    @Chrisnonymous


    If Mexico sent nothing but Salma Hayek clones, we wouldn’t care about Uninviting the world.

     

    Yes, but the Jewish women behind the Jewish men who promote open borders would want nothing to do with an army of hot shiksas invading America. They have enough trouble with their men wandering as it is. You'd think they'd have figured out the Jewish Man - Asian Woman threat by now and started to make a lot of noise about closing the "border" with China. Maybe it hasn't reached critical mass yet. But I bet tons of Jewish boys are coming home from the Ivy League on vacation and saying, "Mom, this is Sue Jin." It's got to rankle.
    , @Njguy73
    @Chrisnonymous

    The Salma Hayek clones and their smart, talented husband's don't come here. They're too busy running Mexico.

  57. @Jim Christian
    @Lagertha

    1:Beer;

    2:Football.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    If the Cankles of Death wins, I’ll have to skip the beer and go right to the single malt.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    @Brutusale

    ... and the service revolver?

  58. @Whiskey
    The big difference between Obama and Bush is that the former loves loves loves his drone attacks and secret Libyan Arms to Syria via Turkey deals and various back door maneuverings (no pun intended) with Iran and who knows else. While GWB favored more open use of US force, less drones, and more overt pressure.

    Bush was the "Open" President who was predictable and public in what he did, and Obama is "Mr. Secret War" particularly with a slavish press that views him as a living god.

    McCain has been in the Senate and will be forever because unfortunately Nationalism is not a winning formula. It attracts sadly in this country anyway a ceiling of 40% at most; that's White men and working class White women plus a tiny fraction of Non-Whites and the Professional White female demo.

    McCain might as well be the face of Globalism, with either Obama's Secret War or Bush's Open War match to mass immavasion; and he'll likely get re-elected. [Please God prove me wrong.] For a Lady Lawyer or Real Estate saleswoman or whatever, more mass migration means cheaper nannies, cooks, gardeners, etc. What's not to love?

    If Mexico sent nothing but Salma Hayek clones the border would be closed tomorrow.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @dsgntd_plyr

    Bush was the “Open” President who was predictable and public in what he did, and Obama is “Mr. Secret War” particularly with a slavish press that views him as a living god.

    there isn’t any significant difference, policy wise, between bush 2 and obama

    • Replies: @guest
    @dsgntd_plyr

    That's because presidents don't matter. Not since FDR, anyway.

  59. Trump needs to use this–Bill Clinton on tape inviting Syrians to Detroit to rebuild it.

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/29/bill-clinton-calls-for-rebuilding-detroit-with-syrian-refugees/

    • Replies: @YT Wurlitzer
    @e

    Thanks for that link; lots of information there. Yogurt (?) billionaires with their own privatized immigration rackets and Bill's enthusiasm for Syrians on welfare to rebuild Detroit because the people he helped impoverish there aren't "amazing" enough. Hmmm, sounds racist, Bill. How come none of the homegrown are amazing?

    BTW, that Twin Falls story got trashed for the rape allegation having been made up, but from what the father said about the video it seems it wasn't, unless the definition is what Bill thinks is is.

    , @Another Canadian
    @e


    Trump needs to use this–Bill Clinton on tape inviting Syrians to Detroit to rebuild it.

     

    As a reasonable alternative, Zinjanthropus invites Syrians back to Damascus to rebuild it. And it may be safer than Detroit.
    , @AndrewR
    @e

    I've said since day one of the refugee debate: I'll gladly welcome any Syrian who wants to come as long as we can trade them for the indigenous population of Detroit.

  60. @Njguy73
    @Glossy

    I've heard this somewhere:

    If you want the government to meddle in domestic affairs, you're a liberal.
    If you want the government to meddle in foreign affairs, you're a conservative.
    If you want the government to meddle in domestic and foreign affairs, you're a moderate.
    If you want the government to meddle nowhere, you're an extremist.

    Replies: @Lurker, @Steve from Detroit

    Joe Sobran.

    • Replies: @Njguy73
    @Steve from Detroit

    Thanks. I wasn't sure who it was, and my Google turned up blank.

  61. @AnotherDad
    @Fenton Skeegs


    We’ll probably be stuck with Invade the World/Invite the World until a significant number of silent generation politicians and philosophers either retire or die.
     
    Huh? The Silents were thick on the ground by the Reagan administration, and we're still prominent in the Bush II administration--Cheney, Powell, Rumsfeld.

    Sure there are some Congressional has beens like McCain floating around, but the Presidential candidates are *elderly* and are boomers. Silents are completely irrelevant now.

    Heck even Obama's Horsegirls of the Apocalypse--Clinton, Rice and Power--early boomer, late boomer and the lovely Samantha Power is even Gen X. The torch of invade-invite has been passed long back.

    Replies: @E. Rekshun

    Silents are completely irrelevant now.

    Yep, the youngest of the Silent Generation, born in 1945, have been collecting social security for nearly ten years now. Though Medicare and SS recipients still make up a large group of active voters.

    Hillary turns 69 in October and Trump turned 70 two months ago; they’re the eldest of the Baby Boomers.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    @E. Rekshun

    A fair number of the second generation of rock and rollers and even some of the third generation are technically Silents, as are all or nearly all the first generation ones. (One or two might have been older than that.)

    British Invasion groups and their American contemporaries would be second generation: third would be punk and new wave along with metalheads and whatnot.

    Replies: @majorthird

  62. I couldn’t miss the ITW meme in Hillary’s Alt-Right speech, Steve. Been trying to give you polite, intellectual credit in comment sections everywhere from TRS to NPR.

  63. @Polynikes
    I would settle for uninvite and provide strategic air support in proxy wars.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    When have we ever seen one without the other? All empires end up full of their enemies.

  64. @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    @anony-mouse

    "But if it gets linked to losing campaigns…"
    Why do people finish a statement with ellipses? It's meant to signify an omission.

    Replies: @Cletus Rothschild, @res

    Why do people finish a statement with ellipses? It’s meant to signify an omission.

    http://copywriter-editor.com/points-of-ellipsis/

    But ellipsis points have other uses. The two main ones:

    1. To indicate a trailing off of speech or thought
    2. To indicate a pause

  65. @Brutusale
    @Jim Christian

    If the Cankles of Death wins, I'll have to skip the beer and go right to the single malt.

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted

    … and the service revolver?

  66. @Chrisnonymous
    @Whiskey

    If Mexico sent nothing but Salma Hayek clones, we wouldn't care about Uninviting the world.

    Replies: @peterike, @Njguy73

    If Mexico sent nothing but Salma Hayek clones, we wouldn’t care about Uninviting the world.

    Yes, but the Jewish women behind the Jewish men who promote open borders would want nothing to do with an army of hot shiksas invading America. They have enough trouble with their men wandering as it is. You’d think they’d have figured out the Jewish Man – Asian Woman threat by now and started to make a lot of noise about closing the “border” with China. Maybe it hasn’t reached critical mass yet. But I bet tons of Jewish boys are coming home from the Ivy League on vacation and saying, “Mom, this is Sue Jin.” It’s got to rankle.

  67. @Dave Pinsen
    @AnotherDad

    I think the third leg of it, "In hock to the world", slowed its adoption down. No one cares about the federal debt anymore. It nearly doubled on Obama's watch and its no big deal.

    Replies: @Stebbing Heuer, @peterike, @tomv

    No one cares about the federal debt anymore. It nearly doubled on Obama’s watch and its no big deal.

    True, but should Trump get elected, his chair won’t even be warm yet before the stories of “How President Trump is Burdening All Americans with Unbelievable Debt” are running 24 x 7.

  68. @e
    Trump needs to use this--Bill Clinton on tape inviting Syrians to Detroit to rebuild it.

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/29/bill-clinton-calls-for-rebuilding-detroit-with-syrian-refugees/

    Replies: @YT Wurlitzer, @Another Canadian, @AndrewR

    Thanks for that link; lots of information there. Yogurt (?) billionaires with their own privatized immigration rackets and Bill’s enthusiasm for Syrians on welfare to rebuild Detroit because the people he helped impoverish there aren’t “amazing” enough. Hmmm, sounds racist, Bill. How come none of the homegrown are amazing?

    BTW, that Twin Falls story got trashed for the rape allegation having been made up, but from what the father said about the video it seems it wasn’t, unless the definition is what Bill thinks is is.

  69. @Fenton Skeegs
    We'll probably be stuck with Invade the World/Invite the World until a significant number of silent generation politicians and philosophers either retire or die. They're stuck in the mindset of post-war America when the consequences of 'Invite the World' weren't quite so obvious, and Invade the World at least appeared to be the best course for a damaged world.

    Unfortunately, people rarely learn from the folly of their ways, they eventually just die and a new generation brings forth their wacky ideas.

    Also, do voters think McCain's got another six-years of log rolling, media scheming and fundraising in him?

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Stan Adams

    Also, do voters think McCain’s got another six-years of log rolling, media scheming and fundraising in him?

    Two words: Strom Thurmond.

    (By the way, there’s a story making the rounds today that Strom once made a pass at a teenaged Chelsea Clinton.)

  70. @Chrisnonymous
    @Whiskey

    If Mexico sent nothing but Salma Hayek clones, we wouldn't care about Uninviting the world.

    Replies: @peterike, @Njguy73

    The Salma Hayek clones and their smart, talented husband’s don’t come here. They’re too busy running Mexico.

  71. @Another Canadian
    @Harry Baldwin


    BTW, it’s such a disgrace that Arizona keeps sending McCain back to the senate. He really needs to be put out to pasture. He’s an embarrassment.
     
    McCain should have been put out to pasture back when he was doing favors for Charlie Keating and American Continental Corporation / Lincoln Savings & Loan. I'm not sure how McCain slipped the noose since John Glenn could never be considered for President after being part of the Keating Five.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    The beltway media and mandarin class kept, and keep, McCain afloat when he should have disappeared into obscurity after W thrashed him in 2000.

    As an aside, it’s apparent how much of a threat Trump is to that group’s influence and paychecks by how viciously they attack him. Trump seems to have all the right enemies.

  72. @dsgntd_plyr
    @Whiskey


    Bush was the “Open” President who was predictable and public in what he did, and Obama is “Mr. Secret War” particularly with a slavish press that views him as a living god.
     
    there isn't any significant difference, policy wise, between bush 2 and obama

    Replies: @guest

    That’s because presidents don’t matter. Not since FDR, anyway.

  73. I really should have my own Guinness Book record for consistently devising the world’s slowest spreading viral content.

    Oh, that was you? I’d always assumed Patrick Buchanan first formulated “invade the world, invite the world,” since he uses it so frequently.

  74. @AndrewR
    @Harry Baldwin

    His mother is 104 and still kicking. We may have three or more terms with him in office :(

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    His mother is 104 and still kicking. We may have three or more terms with him in office

    I predict he loses today’s primary race. Kelli Ward is a formidable challenger, and its a bad year to be an Establishment neocon stooge.

  75. @e
    Trump needs to use this--Bill Clinton on tape inviting Syrians to Detroit to rebuild it.

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/29/bill-clinton-calls-for-rebuilding-detroit-with-syrian-refugees/

    Replies: @YT Wurlitzer, @Another Canadian, @AndrewR

    Trump needs to use this–Bill Clinton on tape inviting Syrians to Detroit to rebuild it.

    As a reasonable alternative, Zinjanthropus invites Syrians back to Damascus to rebuild it. And it may be safer than Detroit.

  76. @Dave Pinsen
    @AnotherDad

    I think the third leg of it, "In hock to the world", slowed its adoption down. No one cares about the federal debt anymore. It nearly doubled on Obama's watch and its no big deal.

    Replies: @Stebbing Heuer, @peterike, @tomv

    “In hock” was an afterthought. The original formulation was as featured on the AmConMag cover that accompanies the post.

  77. @Yak-15
    The way in which alt-right begins to seriously compete with post modern progressivism is by challenging it as a moral system. Steve and the rest, if they want their understanding of the world to become mainstream, need to educate the public as to why their understanding of the world is more moral than blank-slate leftism.

    This is no simple task, but one we can all help accomplish. "Invade the world, invite the world" is an excellent way to start.

    Replies: @Jason Liu

    The first step is to start normalizing hierarchy and criminalizing equality. Emphasis that leftism, as expressed through Enlightenment ideals of equality, means that leftism is based on 18th century pseudoscience.

  78. @The most deplorable one
    Victor Orban not happy with imivasion:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbINrdyAXlE

    Replies: @Alfa158

    Magnificent speech, it is hard to believe any politician in this day and age can speak like that. Too bad he isn’t running for President of the US.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Alfa158

    Trump is saying a lot of the same things. Not nearly as eloquently, or as forcefully, but it's still enough to make the elites to jump up on a chair, hold their dresses, and shriek. All the more reason we should vote for him in the fall.

  79. She is not a good candidate. She’s attacking McCain’s age in a state with a lot of retirees.

    • Replies: @majorthird
    @Marty T

    It was old people who most consistently declined to vote for Bob Dole on the grounds, quite reasonable, that he was too old.

    The Presidency, if taken seriously, is a high energy endeavor. Old people realize that after a certain age, the stress and work are just oppressive. Under normal circumstances, Trump would be quite properly not taken seriously as a candidate for this reason alone, never mind Bernie, or even Hillary even if she weren't obviously in ill health.

    These are not normal circumstances. Trump is in good shape for his age, and will probably be okay for one term at least. Still, it is not an ideal situation by any means.

  80. @Yngvar
    @The most deplorable one

    Hello there! I am a editor at Wikipedia. What seems to be the problem? Can I be of any assistance?

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @bored identity

    The Dirt Gap=another Sailerism

  81. @AndyBoy
    It's the slow, big memes that rule the world!

    Replies: @wiseguy

    The Big Lie has met its match in the Big Meme!

  82. @RadicalCenter
    @Anonymous

    Re-electing McCain is not in the interests of Arizonans, either, if they don't think it's in their interest to have more of their kids and grandkids needlessly killed, maimed, or traumatized in unnecessary, nondefensive, unauthorized wars. Arizonans also pay interest-- soon to be much higher interest -- on the massive deficit spending McCain has supported and still advocates. Arizonans are also physically, economically, and culturally harmed and marginalized by the in going waves of legal and illegal aliens from the third world whom McCain loves to let in, more than people in most states.

    To vote against McCain in the primary, then, it's not even necessary to consider the interests of the whole country. Arizonans' interests don't lie with McCain, either.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Re-electing McCain is not in the interests of Arizonans, either, if they don’t think it’s in their interest to have more of their kids and grandkids needlessly killed, maimed, or traumatized in unnecessary, nondefensive, unauthorized wars.”

    Most voters who are anti-war vote Democrat and have never voted & never will vote for a Republican. That is why John McCain keeps getting re-elected as senator in Conservative red state Arizona.

    You people here on The Unz vastly overestimate how anti-war Comservative voters are. There is a reason why Conservatives treat the military like they are royalty even during the Vietnam war. Conservatives were not spitting in their faces like Liberals did when they came home from Vietnam. Conservatives don’t burn the U.S flag to protest invade the world like Liberals do.

    You all must must be living in a cave if you haven’t noticed that the loudest voices in the anti-war movement are Liberal Millennial college students and none of them are voting for Donald Trump.

    The Portlandia type SWPL hipster college students who staged protests shouting “Bush Lied People Died” are not voting for Donald Trump because they see him as racist against Nonwhite people. And to them racism against Nonwhites is a lot worst than going to war.

  83. @Clifford Brown
    Interesting how McCain is generally held up by the media as the Maverick Republican who fully embraces "Invade the World, Invite the World". There is a strange aura to McCain and his unique appeal to Beltway journalists. In many ways, Beltway journalists have always been McCain's base of support. Frankly, McCain's appeal never made any sense to me.

    It looks like McCain's military record has a few holes in it which would make him somewhat vulnerable to blackmail, but the key hole in his record is likely his marriage to Cindy McCain. Cindy McCain's father, Jim Hensley, built a massive fortune on an exclusive Anheuser-Busch beer distributorship and a horse racetrack operation likely with a little help from organized crime.

    Always interesting what names do not seem to warrant a Wikipedia page. The patron sponsor of Jim Hensley was Kemper Marley, a long time Arizona political king maker with some shadowy connections. It looks like Jim Hensley was rewarded the lucrative beer distributorship for taking the fall for Kemper Marley in an earlier illegal alcohol distribution operation. Kemper Marley was on the board of directors of the bank that would finance Bugsy Siegel's Flamingo Casino. Despite his long influence in Arizona politics and the Arizona history museum that bears his name, Kemper Marley lacks a Wikipedia entry for some reason.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemper_Marley

    On June 2, 1976, investigative journalist, Don Bolles, was the victim of a car bombing in Phoenix, Arizona, likely tied to organized crime. Although never proven, allegations were that the attack was in connection with Bolles investigation of Kemper Marley. Bolles last words were "They finally got me. The Mafia. Emprise. Find John."

    Emprise exists today as Delaware North (after the address of their headquarters in Buffalo, New York) and continues to operate casinos, hotel and other attractions. In 1971, Emprise and other mafia associates were found to be illegal "secret" partners in the Frontier Casino back in the 1960's. One of the "straight" owners of the Frontier in the 1960's was a young Steve Wynn. The mob interests in the Frontier Casino, including Emprise, were bought out by Howard Hughes and his Mormon handlers in 1967.

    Nice little anecdote. Most of the major casinos "in" Las Vegas are not actually in Las Vegas, but in Paradise, Nevada. The original name of the Frontier Casino was the "Pair-O-Dice" nightclub. I never thought of that pun.

    Regardless, maybe the reason McCain is the perpetual choice of the Establishment and Beltway journalists is that he married into a family fortune with deep organized crime connections.

    Puts things in perspective.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Lugash, @Brutusale

    A good read on the Bolles murder:

    http://www.roguecolumnist.com/rogue_columnist/2015/09/who-murdered-don-bolles-i.html

    Never forget that McCain thinks that this behaviour is acceptable:

    I hope Ward beat the senile old fuck, but it’s probably not going to happen.

  84. Meanwhile, in Sherman Oaks…

    http://abc7.com/news/$150k-in-watches-jewelry-stolen-during-sherman-oaks-open-house/1490591/

    They look Eurasian, but I can’t tell from where…

  85. Jack Hanson says:

    It’s “razor thin” because McCain is struggling for his life against a state congresswoman. His ad buys indicate that Ward is somehow responsible for refunding national security during her time as a state senator.

    Yeah idgi either.

    The kicker is that most of the people who say they aren’t voting are going McCain, and the people who are voting Ward will show up.

  86. @Jefferson
    Steve how come you never talk about people on the Right who are invade the world & uninvite the world and people on the Left who are uninvade the world and invite the world.

    Donald Trump has neocon supporters like K.T MacFarland for example and Crooked Hildabeast has anti-war supporters like The Dixie Chicks.

    It's not so black & white Steve.

    Replies: @Glossy, @Anon, @BenKenobi, @RadicalCenter, @jtgw, @George Taylor

    I wonder how anti-war the Dixie Chicks are when it comes to fighting WW-G (which Steve does talk about) against Putin’s Russia?

  87. @Jefferson
    @Clifford Brown

    "Interesting how McCain is generally held up by the media as the Maverick Republican"

    That was only during the GOP primaries. When John McCain went up against Barack Hussein Obama the mainstream media no longer labeled him a maverick, they labeled him as someone who should not be elected president because he is too old.

    That same mainstream media won't label Crooked Hildabeast as too old to be president. The mainstream media is only ageist against Republicans.

    Crooked Hildabeast is old enough to be Justin Bieber's grandmother, because she was in her late 40s when he was born.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    Truthfully, McCain in ’08 looked even worse than Hillary does in ’16. He looked like a frail old man one stumble away from breaking his hip.

    Reagan, despite his being well on the way toward full-blown senility, always had a healthy glow about him.

    Lesley Stahl, now of 60 Minutes, was CBS’s White House correspondent for most of the Reagan and Bush years. When she was transferred away from the White House in 1986, Reagan granted her a private audience with her husband. She wrote her in her book that, at the beginning of the meeting, his eyes were glazed over and he was almost non-responsive. But when she mentioned that her husband was a Hollywood screenwriter, he immediately came to life and began peppering him with questions. By the end of the meeting, he was making sharp, witty comments.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Stan Adams

    Reagan looked old. That was a problem for his movie career. He always looked at least his age, so he got off to a fast start around 1940, but by 1950 he didn't look like a romantic leading man anymore, he looked like a dad who should be settled down by now.

    In contrast, Cary Grant never aged.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @Former Darfur

  88. @Stan Adams
    @Jefferson

    Truthfully, McCain in '08 looked even worse than Hillary does in '16. He looked like a frail old man one stumble away from breaking his hip.

    Reagan, despite his being well on the way toward full-blown senility, always had a healthy glow about him.

    Lesley Stahl, now of 60 Minutes, was CBS's White House correspondent for most of the Reagan and Bush years. When she was transferred away from the White House in 1986, Reagan granted her a private audience with her husband. She wrote her in her book that, at the beginning of the meeting, his eyes were glazed over and he was almost non-responsive. But when she mentioned that her husband was a Hollywood screenwriter, he immediately came to life and began peppering him with questions. By the end of the meeting, he was making sharp, witty comments.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Reagan looked old. That was a problem for his movie career. He always looked at least his age, so he got off to a fast start around 1940, but by 1950 he didn’t look like a romantic leading man anymore, he looked like a dad who should be settled down by now.

    In contrast, Cary Grant never aged.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Steve Sailer

    Audience reaction to That Hagen Girl (1947), in which Reagan's character fell in love with Shirley Temple(!), was extremely negative.

    Reagan felt that it was his worst movie. (Temple, ironically, regarded it as one of her best.)

    http://www.tcm.com/this-month/article.html?isPreview=&id=218460%7C72538&name=That-Hagen-Girl


    Shirley Temple was desperate to play an adult role in 1947, when Warner Bros. came calling with That Hagen Girl, the tale of an adopted girl tormented by small town gossips. The reason for their malicious chatter? A man (Reagan) rumored to be her birth father returns to town and falls in love with her.

    [...]

    [Reagan] tried to convince director Peter Godfrey to order one more rewrite, in which Temple would be reunited with her boyfriend at the end. "People sort of frown on men marrying girls young enough to be their daughters," he argued, only to learn that Godfrey was himself married to a much younger woman.

    [...]

    Reagan's misgivings about the script were borne out when the film had its first preview screening. After he rescues Temple from her suicide attempt, he admits that he loves her. But when he said the words on screen, the preview audience screamed "Oh no!" almost in unison. The studio re-cut the film to play down their romantic relationship, but that just left a muddled mess. As he would write in his memoirs, when the two left their horrid small town together, "You are left to guess as to whether we are married, just traveling together, or did I adopt her."
     
    , @Former Darfur
    @Steve Sailer

    Reagan looked old sitting next to Marilyn Monroe :
    http://65.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnl9ktVzmz1qzdzbuo1_500.jpg


    Couldn't have been later than '55 or so.

  89. Does anyone here know what the average ages of politicians for each state are ? I would not be surprised if USA ranked as the oldest, once the USSR was called a gerontocracy, now one should call the USA that.

  90. @Expletive Deleted
    @Neil Templeton

    If they stuck to the task of shooting up heavily armed local criminals and their "communities" and gangs of violent drug traffickers/colonists from neighboring countries, as opposed to being ruled by the aforementioned groups, I'd chuck rose petals in their path.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton

    Even so, we would ever rue the day we allowed invaders to determine our destiny. See Battle of Hastings.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Neil Templeton

    Errr ... invaders are already determining our destiny. And that day (1965ish) is already to be rued. The nativist/citizenist vote tops out somewhere in the 40s percent nationally.

    If we are stuck with having our destiny determined by foreigners, it might behoove us to pick better foreigners.

  91. @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    @anony-mouse

    "When it comes to ‘Invade the World Invite the World’ it looks like its…"
    It looks like ellipses gone crazy.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton

    The meaning of the ellipse is clear to me. Of course I’m not a pedant.

  92. Take heart, Steve. It does spread. It is viral. The problem is that totally turning one’s back on the state’s advocated illusions because logic takes both intelligence and independence of mind, so the susceptible population for your content is smaller than for, say, the Kardashians’.

  93. @Steve from Detroit
    @Njguy73

    Joe Sobran.

    Replies: @Njguy73

    Thanks. I wasn’t sure who it was, and my Google turned up blank.

  94. @Steve Sailer
    @Stan Adams

    Reagan looked old. That was a problem for his movie career. He always looked at least his age, so he got off to a fast start around 1940, but by 1950 he didn't look like a romantic leading man anymore, he looked like a dad who should be settled down by now.

    In contrast, Cary Grant never aged.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @Former Darfur

    Audience reaction to That Hagen Girl (1947), in which Reagan’s character fell in love with Shirley Temple(!), was extremely negative.

    Reagan felt that it was his worst movie. (Temple, ironically, regarded it as one of her best.)

    http://www.tcm.com/this-month/article.html?isPreview=&id=218460%7C72538&name=That-Hagen-Girl

    Shirley Temple was desperate to play an adult role in 1947, when Warner Bros. came calling with That Hagen Girl, the tale of an adopted girl tormented by small town gossips. The reason for their malicious chatter? A man (Reagan) rumored to be her birth father returns to town and falls in love with her.

    […]

    [Reagan] tried to convince director Peter Godfrey to order one more rewrite, in which Temple would be reunited with her boyfriend at the end. “People sort of frown on men marrying girls young enough to be their daughters,” he argued, only to learn that Godfrey was himself married to a much younger woman.

    […]

    Reagan’s misgivings about the script were borne out when the film had its first preview screening. After he rescues Temple from her suicide attempt, he admits that he loves her. But when he said the words on screen, the preview audience screamed “Oh no!” almost in unison. The studio re-cut the film to play down their romantic relationship, but that just left a muddled mess. As he would write in his memoirs, when the two left their horrid small town together, “You are left to guess as to whether we are married, just traveling together, or did I adopt her.”

  95. @Alfa158
    @The most deplorable one

    Magnificent speech, it is hard to believe any politician in this day and age can speak like that. Too bad he isn't running for President of the US.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Trump is saying a lot of the same things. Not nearly as eloquently, or as forcefully, but it’s still enough to make the elites to jump up on a chair, hold their dresses, and shriek. All the more reason we should vote for him in the fall.

  96. @E. Rekshun
    @AnotherDad

    Silents are completely irrelevant now.

    Yep, the youngest of the Silent Generation, born in 1945, have been collecting social security for nearly ten years now. Though Medicare and SS recipients still make up a large group of active voters.

    Hillary turns 69 in October and Trump turned 70 two months ago; they're the eldest of the Baby Boomers.

    Replies: @Former Darfur

    A fair number of the second generation of rock and rollers and even some of the third generation are technically Silents, as are all or nearly all the first generation ones. (One or two might have been older than that.)

    British Invasion groups and their American contemporaries would be second generation: third would be punk and new wave along with metalheads and whatnot.

    • Replies: @majorthird
    @Former Darfur

    The second maybe, but not the third.

    The oldest people in "punk" or "New wave", unless you want to count Train Robber Ronnie Biggs, are all 1945 and later.

  97. @Steve Sailer
    @Stan Adams

    Reagan looked old. That was a problem for his movie career. He always looked at least his age, so he got off to a fast start around 1940, but by 1950 he didn't look like a romantic leading man anymore, he looked like a dad who should be settled down by now.

    In contrast, Cary Grant never aged.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @Former Darfur

    Reagan looked old sitting next to Marilyn Monroe :

    Couldn’t have been later than ’55 or so.

  98. Sadly, it appears Songbird has been renominated.

    If I lived in Arizona, I’d probably seriously consider voting for his Dem opponent in the general so long as it didn’t appear as if she would be the tipping point between a GOP and Dem Senate.

  99. @Former Darfur
    @E. Rekshun

    A fair number of the second generation of rock and rollers and even some of the third generation are technically Silents, as are all or nearly all the first generation ones. (One or two might have been older than that.)

    British Invasion groups and their American contemporaries would be second generation: third would be punk and new wave along with metalheads and whatnot.

    Replies: @majorthird

    The second maybe, but not the third.

    The oldest people in “punk” or “New wave”, unless you want to count Train Robber Ronnie Biggs, are all 1945 and later.

  100. @Marty T
    She is not a good candidate. She's attacking McCain's age in a state with a lot of retirees.

    Replies: @majorthird

    It was old people who most consistently declined to vote for Bob Dole on the grounds, quite reasonable, that he was too old.

    The Presidency, if taken seriously, is a high energy endeavor. Old people realize that after a certain age, the stress and work are just oppressive. Under normal circumstances, Trump would be quite properly not taken seriously as a candidate for this reason alone, never mind Bernie, or even Hillary even if she weren’t obviously in ill health.

    These are not normal circumstances. Trump is in good shape for his age, and will probably be okay for one term at least. Still, it is not an ideal situation by any means.

  101. @e
    Trump needs to use this--Bill Clinton on tape inviting Syrians to Detroit to rebuild it.

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/29/bill-clinton-calls-for-rebuilding-detroit-with-syrian-refugees/

    Replies: @YT Wurlitzer, @Another Canadian, @AndrewR

    I’ve said since day one of the refugee debate: I’ll gladly welcome any Syrian who wants to come as long as we can trade them for the indigenous population of Detroit.

  102. @Clifford Brown
    Interesting how McCain is generally held up by the media as the Maverick Republican who fully embraces "Invade the World, Invite the World". There is a strange aura to McCain and his unique appeal to Beltway journalists. In many ways, Beltway journalists have always been McCain's base of support. Frankly, McCain's appeal never made any sense to me.

    It looks like McCain's military record has a few holes in it which would make him somewhat vulnerable to blackmail, but the key hole in his record is likely his marriage to Cindy McCain. Cindy McCain's father, Jim Hensley, built a massive fortune on an exclusive Anheuser-Busch beer distributorship and a horse racetrack operation likely with a little help from organized crime.

    Always interesting what names do not seem to warrant a Wikipedia page. The patron sponsor of Jim Hensley was Kemper Marley, a long time Arizona political king maker with some shadowy connections. It looks like Jim Hensley was rewarded the lucrative beer distributorship for taking the fall for Kemper Marley in an earlier illegal alcohol distribution operation. Kemper Marley was on the board of directors of the bank that would finance Bugsy Siegel's Flamingo Casino. Despite his long influence in Arizona politics and the Arizona history museum that bears his name, Kemper Marley lacks a Wikipedia entry for some reason.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemper_Marley

    On June 2, 1976, investigative journalist, Don Bolles, was the victim of a car bombing in Phoenix, Arizona, likely tied to organized crime. Although never proven, allegations were that the attack was in connection with Bolles investigation of Kemper Marley. Bolles last words were "They finally got me. The Mafia. Emprise. Find John."

    Emprise exists today as Delaware North (after the address of their headquarters in Buffalo, New York) and continues to operate casinos, hotel and other attractions. In 1971, Emprise and other mafia associates were found to be illegal "secret" partners in the Frontier Casino back in the 1960's. One of the "straight" owners of the Frontier in the 1960's was a young Steve Wynn. The mob interests in the Frontier Casino, including Emprise, were bought out by Howard Hughes and his Mormon handlers in 1967.

    Nice little anecdote. Most of the major casinos "in" Las Vegas are not actually in Las Vegas, but in Paradise, Nevada. The original name of the Frontier Casino was the "Pair-O-Dice" nightclub. I never thought of that pun.

    Regardless, maybe the reason McCain is the perpetual choice of the Establishment and Beltway journalists is that he married into a family fortune with deep organized crime connections.

    Puts things in perspective.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Lugash, @Brutusale

    Interesting history to a Bostonian, as Delaware North is the current owner of the TD Bank Garden (though no Bostonian calls it anything other than the Boston Garden), as well as the Boston Bruins of the NHL.

    Looks like chairman Jeremy Jacobs was crooked as well as the cheapest owner in professional sports. And Steve Wynn is about to break ground for a casino about a mile up Route 93 from Jacobs’ arena.

  103. @Neil Templeton
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    Even so, we would ever rue the day we allowed invaders to determine our destiny. See Battle of Hastings.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Errr … invaders are already determining our destiny. And that day (1965ish) is already to be rued. The nativist/citizenist vote tops out somewhere in the 40s percent nationally.

    If we are stuck with having our destiny determined by foreigners, it might behoove us to pick better foreigners.

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