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U. of Washington epidemiologist Carl T. Bergstrom tweets:

Personally, I’m holed up in my walk-in closet/office. Of course, that’s the same as I am 350 days per year most years anyway. But I’m counting on you to make bigger sacrifices for the sake of old-timers like me.

 
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  1. OK Boomer.

    (Sorry. I’m your age, but just couldn’t resist.) Don’t think too hard about all the nasty things younger commenters have written here about us. And definitely don’t think about that at the same time that you remember how the Coalition of the Fringes just wants us to D.I.E.

    This is not a good time to come out of the closet.

  2. Public health sounds like a collectivist concept. Libertarians say we just need to pursue our own individual self-interest. Oh and get rid of the Fed. That will make viruses go away.

    Seriously, public health sounds like one area that needs more funding. And we need to bring back key medical supplies and pharmaceuticals to the US, even if it requires interfering with the global free market. It’s a national security issue.

    And use whatever means necessary to get China to end the wet markets and related practices that have probably killed tens of millions of people over the years.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  3. Anonymous[111] • Disclaimer says:

    You more often see underling conditions in the young

  4. @Buzz Mohawk

    The Coronavirus is the Final Solution to the Boomer Question..

    People often blame the Jews for the world’s ills, and if is true that they are disproportionately represented in positions of economic and cultural power. But do you know what correlation is stronger than the Jewish one? Yep that’s right boomers.

    Hail Coronavirus!

    https://www.altcensored.com/watch?v=_16B2euF128

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
  5. dr kill says:

    Picked up Son #2 at PBI last night. He said the flight was packed no one had on a mask and everybody was happy. Of course they were happy they were flying to Palm Beach from Philadelphia. And of course we went directly to Flanagan’s for some barbecue and no one there gave a shit about COVID 19 either.
    It might be because I am a life long Anti-authoritarian or it might be because of my medical degree but this shit is way overblown.
    It is interesting that these viruses all come out
    Of China. But I feel that has more to do with lifestyle of rural Chinese.
    Son#2 Said the rest of the country is freaked the fuk out.
    I’m glad I don’t live in the rest of the country.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    , @AnotherDad
  6. ic1000 says:

    OT request for a link. Okay… maybe not totally off-topic, as keeping Steve and Dr Bergstrom alive requires effective testing of Covid19.

    The CDC is being coy about the faulty reagent that ruined their initial Covid19 diagnostic kit. My question to biotech-savvy commenters: what was the exact problem?

    [MORE]

    The CDC’s initial Emergency Use Authorization for their kit was granted on Feb. 4, 2020 (PDF download). The kit apparently worked well in-house, at their Atlanta HQ. But when a select few CLIA High Complexity Labs started using it, they reported that a high fraction of samples came back “inconclusive.” Nancy Messonnier of CDC on a Feb. 4th call:

    When a state gets the test kits, they have to verify that it works the same in their lab that it worked at CDC. And when some states were doing this, we received feedback that it wasn’t working as expected, specifically some public health labs at states were getting inconclusive results and what that means is that test results were not coming back as false positive or false negatives, but they were being read as inconclusive. Now, these were not tests being run on actual clinical specimens from potential patients. These were part of the verification process, and… we think that there might be an issue with one of the three assays and we think that maybe one of the reagents wasn’t performing consistently… We think that the issue at the states can be explained by one reagent that isn’t performing as it should consistently and that’s why we are re-manufacturing that reagent…

    These complaints belatedly got the CDC and FDA to issue a revised EUA for the CDC kit on Feb. 29th. At that point, they finally did what they should have done in January, reversing policy by making it easy for other organizations to get EUAs for their own tests. PDF here.

    From page 3 of the Feb. 4 PDF, the CDC kit is pretty bare bones. It consists of instructions, two sets of primers and probes for the nucleocapsid (N) gene, a control set of primers and probes for the human RNase P gene, and some 2019-nCoV positive control material.

    The CLIA lab supplies the rest of the reagents (e.g. other controls, buffer, and master mix), and runs the test on an Applied Biosystems 7500 Fast Dx Real-Time PCR Instrument.

    So, what was the faulty reagent? Likeliest explanations seem to be a bad primer, or a contaminant that inhibits the RT or taq polymerase.

    Very likely that the answer is known and published, somewhere. Can anybody point to it?

    • Thanks: Tex, El Dato
  7. I feel like the younger folks response is going to be “OK, boomer.”

  8. Steve,
    Don’t stay holed up. You need to move around for health. Also, getting some sunlight is probably good for you. Pay attention to Mangan150. Sunlight. Exercise. Protein.

    If you need to stay holed up, start doing some breathing exercises. Your lungs need to inflate and deflate completely in order to clear particles and germs. You can research exercises on YouTube. Also, you could get an incentive spirometer (helps lung inflation) or flutter valve (creates air turbulence in your airway). Both available OTC on Amazon…
    https://www.amazon.com/s?k=flutter+valve
    https://www.amazon.com/s?k=incentive+spirometer

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  9. I don’t have extra money due to stocking up but I might have an extra can of Lysol, a pack of hand wipes and a few bags of ramen noodles to send ya.

  10. It’s cool iSteve, all the WuFlu hysteria is wearing on TWGH as well.

    Still waiting on the smoldering corpse pyramids.

    On the bright side, funemployement is wonderful for extreme social distancing. If I were still at work I’d be sitting in an open office with a Chinese fellow that has lots of ties to the old country and next to my burnt-out supervisor with a compromised immune system and two little kids at home.

    Hopefully, some better data surfaces within the next few weeks.

    Oh wait, we live in Clown World now.

  11. 1. The White House and other federal agencies have repeatedly advised a small subset of the US population—the elderly and those with certain underling conditions—to restrict travel and employ social distancing to avoid #COVID19 #coronavirus exposure.

    Now that’s a Freudian slip.

  12. Tiny Duck says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    “Coalition of the fringes”

    Meaning=Blacks, Jews, Latinos, Hispanics, Immigrants, Muslims, Women, Homosexuals, TransPersons, and others that not white males.

    This is not a fringe.

    It is the world

    YOU people are the fringe.

    ANd you will lose

    We see how Trump has mismanaged this crisis and ridden the coattails of Obama’s economic miracle

    Virginia is your future.

    We WILL
    take down statues of evil
    eliminate anti gay stuff
    give reparations
    ban guns
    punish racism

  13. @ic1000

    It strikes me as a bit odd that no one in the media has yet pointed fingers at the culprits here.

    The 2 or 3 weeks Trump bought us by his early travel restrictions may very well have been completely squandered by the incompetence in ramping up testing. It really is a major scandal.

    • Agree: SunBakedSuburb
    • Disagree: Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @Travis
  14. Thatgirl says:

    I find it next to impossible to understand the reasonable and practical response to this virus for myself and my family. Now all of these public scolds like Bergstrom are out there insisting that I also must include a calculation as how my decisions will effect random and unknown elderly and sick people.

    Is this really workable? I don’t even begin to pretend I know how to do this. By this logic, no one should go anywhere during flu season any year.

    I have school age kids who are on spring break next week. We are going on our vacation (by car) as planned.

  15. @Buzz Mohawk

    This is not a good time to come out of the closet.

  16. Coag says:
    @ic1000

    I know this is another “friend of a friend” anecdote so take it for what it’s worth. But someone I know was told by her acquaintance who works at the CDC in Atlanta that when stepping into work everyday she sees a “sea of black faces”. Gives you an idea of the high level of Diversity/Inclusion/Equity being correctly practiced at the CDC to represent and reflect the wider Hotlanta community.

    Not far fetched to speculate that the affirmative action contingent of techs, support staff, secretaries, couriers, etc represents multiple weak links that could have bungled the labeling, processing, delivery, and handling of these critical testing components. Of course it could also be some dumb white guy or gal but we’ll never find out the truth given the determination to cover up.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    , @Clyde
  17. I’m about to turn 60. Looking at the death rates by age range I stand a good chance of making it to my birthday, but my odds of making 61 are half that.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    , @AnotherDad
  18. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    Come out of the closet Stefan …..

  19. Jack D says:

    underling conditions

    Freudian slip? Autocorrect?

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  20. Does the Seroeth Amendment say we need to let the infected in?

    • Replies: @Coag
    , @Neuday
  21. Coag says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yes, according to the the ACLU’s Zeroth Amendment lawyers.

  22. El Dato says:

    Meanwhile, Erdogan has just had his dick demangled by Putin, but is intent on not shutting up and putting it back in again.

    Meanwhile the US wants to “intervene” to deter “Syrian and Russian aggression” (against Al Qaeda of course). Imagine it’s 1941 and the US intervenes to “make it difficult” for rump France to recapture those German territories. Good job.

    That show has more potential than Corona-Chan.

  23. Neuday says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Any restriction on non-white people invading a white country can only be motivated by racism. If you have an inkling of self-preservation as a white person or white nation, it can only be due to racism. “If the genocide is white, you know it’s all right”.

  24. Bert says:

    I am trying, with as yet unclear success, to get this proposal to the attention of the physicians who are also Senators and Congressmen. If you think it has merit, please try to get it anyone whom you think could get it implemented. Time is short.

    The blindingly obvious plan for dealing with the Covid-19 epidemic

    1. Mandatory sequestration at his/her residence for any person, say, 58 or older who does not live in an institutional setting. The actual minimum age would be decided by epidemiologists.
    2. Requirement that the sequestered person respond in his/her voice to random automated telephone calls between the hours of 6 am and 9 pm, in order to confirm his/her whereabouts when combined with GPS tracking or land line location.
    3. Government payment of normal salary or commissions to any sequestered person who was employed at the initiation of sequestration.
    4. Government guarantee of continuation of a sequestered person’s employment after the sequestration is discontinued.
    5. Government delivery of necessary food, water and medicines to sequestered persons.
    6. Expedited delivery of online purchases made by sequestered persons.
    7. Staffing of nursing homes and the like by military personnel who will live on site so that they do not import infection through daily commuting.
    8. Age checks by police of anyone in public who apparently could be 58 or older.
    9. Legal action against persons who leave their location of sequestration.
    10. Implementation would be in any locality that begins to experience an increase in Covid-19 hospitalizations. Simultaneous implementation in all localities would not be necessary.
    11. The sequestration of the elderly would be lifted when epidemiological modeling shows the Ro to be sufficiently below 1.0 that the local/regional epidemic is over.

    The effects:
    1. Prevents hospitals from being overwhelmed and thus allows continued normal delivery of services to patients.
    2. Protects the elderly.
    3. Allows economic activity to continue more or less normally.
    4. Allows creation of a large cohort of younger people who are immune and will not transmit the virus, i.e., achieves herd immunity at minimal societal cost.
    5. Buys time for a vaccine or effective treatment regimes to come on line.
    6. Minimizes inter-generational ill will.

    The justifications:
    1. Helmet laws for motorcyclists, which are based on the principle that a person (the elderly in this case) does not have the right to fail to do take rational precautions when the outcome of doing so imposes a cost on society.
    2. Epidemiological logic as to the effect of herd immunity on Ro.

    The drawbacks:
    1. The possibility of evolution of greater virulence. This however could be eliminated by rapid induced infection of young volunteers who would be compensated by the Government. Because the likelihood of the evolution of greater virulence cannot be known a priori, this possibility should not kill the plan.

    • Replies: @Elli
    , @Lockean Proviso
  25. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/10/coronavirus-cases-united-states-125233

    That’s in keeping with exponential growth (500 Sunday), but: also in keeping with the reasonable expectation that there were already 9000 undiagnosed cases – so expect reported diagnoses to catch up with facts on the ground before we see inflection.

    I know you think you have the view on this. I’m still for the wager it will be less than we think – confounding variables are high. For every Italy, there’s like: 10, 20 – countries that are hardly registering. Kids seem able to communicated it, but really aren’t getting taken out by it – seems to range in kids from undetected to flu-like.

    I think if you are indoors and away you’ll be fine. I’m at a loss to understand why we aren’t told to use Listerine – all day long. This really does take root in the mouth and throat – so keep killing it, in the mouth and throat, and start while you are healthy so you don’t irritate already-compromised tissue with heavy use upon infection. So Listerine, 3X/day.

    In the same vein – raw, ground or chopped up garlic. There’s some – really stupid – posts about how the NIH or CDC “does not” recommend garlic. It’s deliberately badly written to imply that they recommend “against” it, so that’s what the reader thinks, but it’s never what the article says. They don’t recommend garlic – that’s true – because there isn’t hard data that it works – that’s true, but there isn’t data of any kind that it doesn’t and it’s just dumb to think it’s bad for you. Minimally it will kill other bugs including viruses once they become blood borne, and who knows – it may help or even prevent COVID-19 from taking root. Why wait for someone to do a study? 1 clove, 3X/day.

    Other confounding variables – we are not China, we are not Italy, it isn’t January and February anymore. Here’s something you can do that may not have been applicable in China, or even many places in Italy: change your air filter – today. Right now. Do it.

    You’ll be OK. If I could I’d go grocery shopping for you. My guess is we will see a steep scary growth curve until minimally the middle of March, but it will peak, hit inflection, and reverse by mid-April. Let’s check in on that April 30. Best wishes.

  26. I think they’re hoping you stay in the closet until starvation occurs.

  27. MEH 0910 says:
    @Jack D

    Dr. Luther’s Assistant

    • LOL: Hemid
  28. Bruno says:

    Merckel said explicitly she wanted to shut down the economy for slowing down the progression of the epidemy to save sick and old, for them to benefit from operational non overwhelmed hospitals

    Maybe the rational response would be to let the weak die.

    In that respect, her reaction would be similar to her willingness to take as many Syrians as possible in 2015 …

    In that line, Trump would be a genious self sacrificing his own interest, his age and his electorate, for the sake of Country grandeur ….

  29. Lot says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    CV will mostly kill off the remaining pre-Boomers. “Presidential timber” in the USA.

    Steve’s at bigger risk from a toxic mold reaction from his heavy use of the 10 humidifiers he stockpiles from Costco.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Travis
  30. ic1000 says:
    @ic1000

    Sorry, I put the wrong date for that Nancy Mesionnier call. Per the link, it was on Feb. 12th, not Feb 4th.

    AFAICT, that’s 17 days from the CDC’s public acknowledgement of the failure of the only authorized test kit, to the first FDA/CDC remedial action on Feb. 29th. Candid-observer used the word “squandered,” and that seems accurate. What’d they do during that time? (Beyond troubleshooting their kit, that is.)

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Louis Renault
  31. J.Ross says:

    If there really is a plague then how is this also their plan:

    This week, Sen. Ed Markey (D-MA) introduced a plan to increase the inflow of refugee resettlement by more than 500 percent — hiking annual refugee admissions to at least 110,000. Currently, President Trump has reduced annual refugee resettlement to 18,000, which is merely a numerical limit and not a goal to be reached.

    Markey’s plan would also ensure that foreign welfare-dependents are allowed to permanently resettle in the U.S. with green cards despite their financial burden on American taxpayers. Likewise, Markey’s plan increases chain migration to the U.S., the process by which newly naturalized citizens can bring an unlimited number of foreign relatives to the country. About 70 percent of all legal immigration is chain migration.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/10/open-borders-lobby-amid-coronavirus-hike-refugee-inflow-by-500-percent-protect-foreign-welfare-dependents/

    • Replies: @Dtbb
  32. What are the three days you leave your house?

    • Replies: @Jack D
  33. Clyde says:

    Did an affirmative action bomb drop on the CDC, location Atlanta? They screwed up the first set of Corona test kits they distributed and they couldn’t hustle to get replacement batches out. Have they even sent out the new ones that work? You are right about the CDC partly nullifying the usefulness of Trump’s swift travel ban from China.

    • Replies: @danand
  34. @Buzz Mohawk

    “This is not a good time to come out of the closet.”

    Steve needs to come out of his closet, stroll down Ventura Boulevard, and meet Tiny Duck for lunch at Art’s. It’s been raining a lot in LA, so he should take his galoshes.

  35. El Dato says:

    Twitter observatory RT.com reports:

    What happened to catch it, kill it? Dominic Raab goes VIRAL for UK parliament coughing antics

    This is Hollywood-tier material.

    Also, where will the UK get 30 billion GBP from to “protect the economy from Corona Chan” (how?). That’s slightly larger than the “EU divorce bill”.

  36. Pericles says:

    Steve was born to be alive
    Steve was born to be alive
    Born, born to be alive
    (Born to be alive)

  37. @Lot

    CV will mostly kill off the remaining pre-Boomers.

    CWD will get the rest.

    “Presidential timber” in the USA.

    The good news is that timber eventually becomes crude oil. Sadly, it takes quite a few election cycles.

    Steve’s at bigger risk from a toxic mold reaction from his heavy use of the 10 humidifiers he stockpiles from Costco.

    I thought Steve broke the mold.

  38. “I’m counting on you to make bigger sacrifices for the sake of old-timers like me.”

    Steve, today’s youth were trained by the Me Generation to regard “old” and “white” as the vilest of curse words.

    Your and Mr. Bergstrom’s appeal to their sense of community and fairplay for the sake of the oldsters is falling on deaf ears.

    Actually, “deaf ears” is the best case. The median case might be more like the Twitterer who proposed coughing on Republicans once infected.

  39. Jack D says:
    @ScarletNumber

    Rosh Hashana is two days and Yom Kippur is the third.

    • LOL: kaganovitch
  40. Anon7 says:

    To help keep Steve (and the rest of us) alive, I’d advise minimal contact and appropriate distancing from the news media. They’ve spent the last three years building themselves into an Orange Man Hate Machine, and that’s all they know how to do.

    Panic is our biggest enemy right now, worse than the virus. The Democrats wouldn’t hesitate to destroy the economy if they thought they could take Donald Trump down with it. Don’t forget, these are the same people who want the Green New Deal and an open borders free-for-all. They wouldn’t hesitate.

    The Democrats want to use this pandemic just like they use everything else – to take power. The virus, fear the virus! Better give us control over health care, we’ll keep you safe. The virus, fear the virus! Better give us control over the economy, we’ll keep you safe.

    These are tough times for Americans, who have been living like they’re the lords of the earth for the last 75 years thanks to vaccines and antibiotics. It’s been quite some time since we’ve been afraid of viruses and bacteria, but it used to be quite common.

    Wash your hands frequently. Avoid places where there are dense groups of people, especially if you are in an at-risk group. Avoid air travel and cruise ships. Keep calm and carry on.

  41. Anon[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @ic1000

    Has there been any suggestion that the flawed test kit had anything to do with affirmative action, like all the U.S. Navy fender benders?

  42. @Chrisnonymous

    Yup. 14 comments, and there sits mine at number 3 awaiting moderation along with a few of my others on other threads. So, it’s back to the soft censorship of delays with no explanations…

    Be back around election day… maybe…

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  43. Travis says:
    @candid_observer

    Trump keeps congratulating himself for banning Chinese from entering America , yet he continues to allow Italians while most other nations banned Italians already.

    What is Trump waiting for ? It is time to ban all foreigners to reduce the spread of COVID-19

    The testing issue is unfortunate and the blame lies with our CDC and FDA for not allowing states to use the test developed by the WHO. The CDC insisted on creating their own test and the FDA blocked states and testing centers from testing for COVID-19 using other available tests.

    • Agree: Corn
    • Replies: @Corn
  44. @ic1000

    But are they preparing for pandemic 2021? What virus will that be and what tests do we need millions of in advance “just in case”.

  45. @Almost Missouri

    You boomers will never learn, you actually DO have it coming. Not because of any brainwashing of the young’ns (by boomers), but because as a generation you were greedy and shortsighted and left the next generation less well off.

    Seeing as you you don’t want to share your socialized healthcare, I do hope you have plenty of occasion to use it in the near future!

    • Troll: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @Old and Grumpy
    , @SFG
  46. What difference does testing make. Since there is no cure, all you will know is that you are sick. You may or may not get well.

    Treatment consists of having oxygen to breathe if necessary and bed rest. Also antibiotics to contain any peripheral disease and fever controllers. Other than that, nothing.

  47. Anonymous[830] • Disclaimer says:

    Call your leaders in Washington and demand action. It’s not just people over 70 that are dying.

    This is the first time I have seriously regretted voting for Trump. He is blowing it big time. In November I actually might vote for the guy with dementia hoping he has better handlers than Charles and Jared Kushner.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  48. “certain underling conditions”
    – does somebody know what these certain underling conditions are specifically? is there a good link?

  49. Clyde says:

    Coronavirus toll mounts at Seattle-area nursing home
    By Richard Read, Los Angeles Times 1 day ago
    Results are still to come for an additional 20 residents of Life Care Center of Kirkland, whose death toll climbed to 19 with the announcement Monday of three more COVID-19 fatalities. In all, 22 people have died in Washington state.

    So total US deaths is at 30 (I just did a search) and 19 of them lived in Life Care nursing home in Washington State. Some of the other 11 deaths was nursing home residents.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  50. J.Ross says:

    You can’t make this up. Pennsylvania’s top tranny medical authority is telling people to attend mass events (pic below more tag, no word on what real medical authorities think. Oh, right, they say to wash hands and avoid crowds).
    Also Charles Schumer is indulging in little self-defeating cheap shots about the president, who I guess became an epidemiologist overnight, not “dealing with” covid-19. Schumer’s party is asking for a gigantic increase in refugee resettlement and immigration at the same time.

    PA state Health commissioner, a MTF tranny pediatrician who specializes in hormones to children, says::
    [people] can attend mass events:
    despite confirmed cases, “State Health Secretary Rachel Levine isn’t recommending that large gatherings be canceled.”

    https://www.lockhaven.com/news/local-news/2020/03/coronavirus-spreads-in-pa-as-cancellations-grow/

    He has no pandemic qualifications but is 100% up on genital mutilation techniques.
    Previous posts included: Vice-Chair for Clinical Affairs for the Department of Pediatrics and Chief of the Division of Adolescent Medicine and Eating Disorders at the Penn State Hershey Medical Center.

    Regional and international speaker, and author on the opioid crisis, medical marijuana, adolescent medicine, eating disorders, and LGBT medicine.

    Anon despairs: ALL of our government is illegitimate, top to bottom. Anon isn’t giving Biden the chance to legalize pedophilia and criminalize the Bill of Rights, which is where you really save on government legitimacy.

    2016 Bezos Blog piece on Levine:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/meet-rachel-levine-one-of-the-very-few-transgender-public-officials-in-america/2016/06/01/cf6e2332-2415-11e6-8690-f14ca9de2972_story.html

  51. George says:
    @ic1000

    Why the CDC botched its coronavirus testing

    The first testing kits from the Centers for Disease Control had a simple fault, and red tape prevented other labs from creating their own.

    by This Neel V. Patel

    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615323/why-the-cdc-botched-its-coronavirus-testing/

    Plenty of labs can now test for coronavirus. But a key testing component is in short supply.
    https://www.palmbeachpost.com/zz/news/20200311/plenty-of-labs-can-now-test-for-coronavirus-but-key-testing-component-is-in-short-supply

    Sorry to say it but the same generation that brought you Iraqistan is in charge of other US policies.

    • Thanks: ic1000
    • Replies: @ic1000
  52. Steve is going all UVA on us:

    James E. Ryan
    President
    University of Virginia

    To the University Community,

    I write to share an update on our response to the novel coronavirus, known as COVID-19, and our plans for the remainder of the Spring semester.

    To begin with the basic and important news:

    We will be moving our classes online. We will not be holding classes on Grounds for the foreseeable future, quite possibly through the end of the semester. We will reassess after April 5th at the earliest and periodically after that date.

    Online classes will begin Thursday, March 19.

    Students who are away on Spring Break are strongly encouraged to return home or to remain home if they are already there.

    Students on Grounds and in Charlottesville are strongly encouraged to return home by this weekend.

    University events with more than 100 people are prohibited for the foreseeable future and should be postponed, cancelled, or offered virtually.

  53. George says:
    @Almost Missouri

    “I’m counting on you to make bigger sacrifices for the sake of old-timers like me.”

    Dare I say, Ok Boomer.

  54. Upside: I now have a perfect excuse to keep my office door closed, and I don’t have to buy the drinks for the younger colleagues.

    Downside: I actually have to do work to avoid boredom.

  55. Personally, I’m holed up in my walk-in closet/office. Of course, that’s the same as I am 362 days per year.

    Leading by example, Steve has already self-quarantined. He’s doing his part to stop the coronvirus.

    I’m a hermit too. An uncloseted hermit, but a hermit nonetheless.

    I hope you can come out of the closet long enough to get some fresh air and some sunshine.

    Sunshine is good for the soul.

    Cheers.

  56. Off-topic: here’s another data point to add to the “Disgruntled Black Male Employee Perpetrates A Kamikaze Attack Against His Workplace” list.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Southwest_Airlines_Flight_1771

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @AnotherDad
  57. danand says:

    San Francisco’s Mayor Breed is holding a press conference concerning S.F. schools. Tells us schools will remain open for now, but students can cease daily attendance if they wish. I would have to guess a large number will not be attending. BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) ridership is way down, drop started 2 weeks ago and is fewer each business (week) day. All “gatherings” now limited to no more than 1000 for next 2 week.

    580A6B5B-B857-4A78-BC88-C9D40A050F19

  58. Corn says:
    @Travis

    Agreed. Trump was handling this well initially IMO but he seems to be sitting on his hands now. We need more travel bans, not just China.

  59. Anonymous[281] • Disclaimer says:

    Pretty obvious that international air travellers and the big airlines are the most powerful lobby in the country!

    Do. Not. Fuck. With. Them.

    They shall not be inconvenienced.

    The 99% of America who do not travel internationally WILL be sacrificed in order for the jet set to carry on jetting.

    And even after the jet set wakes up to the danger and the flights are empty the airlines will keep on keeping on. WTF.

    SHUT IT DOWN. SHUT IT THE FUCK DOWN NOW TRUMP.

    • Agree: Travis
  60. Anon[410] • Disclaimer says:

    People who finished school before the 2010s were never taught that Vitamin D is protective against viral infections. There is a massive ignorance gap here because much of the research revealing this important bit of health information is relatively new. There’s plenty of medical evidence that good Vitamin D levels protects you against getting sick with viruses.

    This paper mentions Vitamin D is especially good for protection again enveloped viruses, aka coronaviruses:

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1386653210004932

    Here’s a doctor on Youtube giving a lecture on why Vitamin D protects you against viruses. This is for people who don’t like to read:

    Here’s another doctor talking about low Vitamin D levels and viruses:

    There is, by the way, medical paper after paper explaining that the Chinese have a severe Vitamin D deficiency. This is why they keep catching viruses and passing them along to everyone else. Here’s some to start with.

    This paper says 70% of older Chinese are Vitamin D deficient, compared to 17% of older Americans.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-56297-y

    Here’s another paper explaining the deficiency in the Chinese.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4554140/

    Either eat foods with Vitamin D, get some sunlight, or take a Vitamin D supplement to protect yourselves against Covid-19.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    , @Clyde
  61. If you have a strong stomach and a sick sense of humor you might want to check out the latest Dark Journalist broadside which is basically a gloom doom rant, hardly pausing to inhale, of one Doctor Nick Begich, who I had not previously heard of. The man says over and over that overall our highest priority is to remain calm and not panic. I suspect the man might have the exact combination of xanax and adderall pumping his brain into that condition that Ed Harris’ character had in The Hours right before he dove out of his 8th story window.

    It is tagged as being an hour and 26 minutes but I couldn’t get through more than the first fourth of it. I haven’t closed the tab though and I might go back and look at it some more. No way am I going to go for the whole thing. Before he started getting repetitious it was kind of funny.

  62. Personally, I’m holed up in my walk-in closet/office. Of course, that’s the same as I am 362 days per year. But I’m counting on you to make bigger sacrifices for the sake of old-timers like me.

    Right with you Steve on the other side. I’ve got the humidity dialed up to “Florida” and outside of the daily beach walk with my bride–no need to talk to anyone–i’m just holed up reading iSteve. They’ll have to tear this laptop from under my cold dead fingers.

  63. Travis says:
    @Lot

    CV will kill more boomers than pre-boomers.

    America has 70 million boomers and 18 million pre-boomers. If half the population get COVID-19 and the fatality rate is 2% for boomers we should expect 700,000 Boomers will succumb to CV. If the death rate is triple for pre-boomers then about 600,000 pre-boomers will perish from CV.

    Currently we predict that half of all Americans will get infected this year, with 700,000 Boomers succumbing to CV and 600,000 pre-boomers dying from CV.

  64. El Dato says:
    @Just Passing Through

    I knew it. Boomers are everywhere.

    BOOMER

    Boomers are synthetic life forms produced by the Genom Corporation. Typically, they are called Voomers (VOodoo Organic Metal Extension Resource), and referred to as Boomers if they go wild and start killing. Some people call them Boomers whether they are out of control or not, so it is also a derogatory term.

    They are developed specifically for specific jobs, such as acting as maids, waiters, bodyguards, store mannequins, and military weapons. Some (very advanced and expensive models) have gained sentience and developed minds of their own, but most are simply machines. Boomers designed for infiltration and combat are capable of appearing human, whether male or female, but tend to “burst” out of their synthetic skin in combat situations, revealing their true selves: giant, metallic killing machines armed with built-in lasers, machine guns, and arm blades capable of cleaving through a fire hydrant.

    That’s a pretty accurate description of iSteve.

  65. Thea says:

    Boomers are overwhelmingly white and voted for Trump bigly.

  66. El Dato says:
    @Clyde

    “Do not ask for whom the toll mounts.”

  67. @Just Passing Through

    Boomers were mostly kraaled by Jews.

    This is what opened Kevin MacDonald’s eyes, thus his thesis on organized Jewry.

  68. danand says:
    @Travis

    “CV will kill more boomers than pre-boomers.”

    What’s going to happen to the “Berkshire Hathaways” (those with significant life insurance exposure) if there are a few million “accelerated” deaths this year? Will the funds have to liquidate their other positions to cover, will they go Boom(er), or is it just another blip to them?

  69. Apparently the porn-addicted incels may hold the true key to defeating Corona-Chan:

    Corona at Work:

    http://fav.me/dds6ldp

  70. El Dato says:

    Okay, this is not looking good.

    Finger pointing starts, which means that the 15-year olds in suits are having soggy bottoms events. Great.

    Trump admin blames China for 2 months lost in coronavirus prep as experts warn flaws in US health system doom its readiness

    The US has already failed to arrest the virus in the containment stage, meaning “there will be widespread transmission of this virus around the country,” Osterholm predicted, echoing the worried prognostications of other epidemiologists. Centers for Disease Control director Robert Redfield agreed that critical regions of the US are beyond the reach of containment, sliding into the “mitigation” stage, and blamed the botched rollout of test kits to local health workers.

    Getting blackpilled in real time that hard.

    Imagine if this was a SERIOUS virus.

    Also: The monkey bubble is imploding.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Joe Stalin
  71. Ragno says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Attaboy, Rochester – you tell ’em.

    Just as soon as you empty the ashtrays and freshen up the ice in these juleps. And remember – shaved ice, not crushed.

  72. utu says:

    Impressive work:

    Coronavirus: Why You Must Act Now by Tomas Pueyo (Updated on 3/11/2020)
    https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

  73. @RebelWriter

    We will miss you,but rest assured,we will go on.

  74. ic1000 says:
    @George

    @George — Thanks for that Palm Beach Post article from today, 3/11/20. Actually it’s bylines USA Today, so Gannett. That reporter is somewhat out of his depth, but he still says more than I’ve read elsewhere.

    He sorta implies that RNA extraction reagents were the problem with the CDC kit, but that’s certainly wrong (labs were on their own to source those reagents).

    He goes on to quote a laboratorian saying, “[High current] testing demand has led to a shortage of reagents for the RNA extraction process.”

    That’s a bit strange, because there’s nothing particularly special (that I know of) about extracting RNA for coronavirus testing, as opposed for any other extracting RNA for any other purpose. Qiagen and other suppliers make a lot of flavors of these kits. They should be able to ramp up production of one particular type, easily (of course it’s easy to say “easily” about someone else’s work).

    And it escapes the reporter, but CDC, FDA etc. could have easily given suppliers a heads-up on the likelihood of increasing near-term demand, back in January. So another testing screw-up.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  75. @Chrisnonymous

    Yup. 14 comments, and there sits mine at number 3 awaiting moderation along with a few of my others on other threads. So, it’s back to the soft censorship of delays with no explanations…

    No Comments for You !!!

  76. @Travis

    Currently we predict that half of all Americans will get infected this year, with 700,000 Boomers succumbing to CV and 600,000 pre-boomers dying from CV.

    Amazing coincidence! An illness that cripples America’s biggest “threats” and solves the Social Security Trust Fund problem looming just three years ahead.

  77. @Anonymous

    They got to you, eh?

    .

    .

    the Lyin’ Press infotainment, I mean.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
  78. Mr Mox says:

    What is Trump waiting for ? It is time to ban all foreigners to reduce the spread of COVID-19

    Might as well ban all travellers from hard-hit countries . Here in Denmark, the number of infected has literally exploded the last 24 hours (setting some sort of European record for fastest Corona infection acceleration)
    The reason? People returning home from skiing holiday in Italy.

    The authorities has decided to grab the bull by the horns and have closed schools, kindergardens and other public institutions. More interventions are no doubt in the making.

    It is also recommended not to use public transportation if possible. We have a social democrat government at the moment, and public transportation is one of their pet subjects.
    It must have been a hard decision for them to make 😉

  79. El Dato says:
    @ic1000

    And it escapes the reporter, but CDC, FDA etc. could have easily given suppliers a heads-up on the likelihood of increasing near-term demand, back in January. So another testing screw-up.

    Who needs foresight when you can just lower the interest rate when SHTF?

    • Replies: @El Dato
  80. El Dato says:
    @El Dato

    ..which means one thing: the rich get richer.

  81. Barnard says:

    NCAA just announced no fans at any NCAA tournament games. This really changes how the event will look and feel on TV. In a year where you could already expect lower than normal TV ratings because of the lack of star players, this could be a very bad year for the NCAA. The travel industry’s year is going to be gutted. How well prepared are they for a year of terrible earnings?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @AnotherDad
  82. JMcG says:
    @RichardTaylor

    Public health needs to get its collective head out of its collective butt. It’s epically funded. What do we get from it? Research into gun violence as a public health hazard. They could have warehouses full of masks and antivirals, but they’d rather tease out statistical evidence to please their government masters. Half the CDC are probably Chinese nationals anyway.
    I do agree with you about libertarians though!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @RichardTaylor
  83. @AnonymousMillenial

    Gen Xers are pretty well off. They are the ones who follow us whippersnapper. By the way to you know how to grow and process food? How about repair equipment? Sew? Ever build anything besides Lego sets? We’re the last American generation who can do actual work, and in the heat and cold no less. We tried to train you, but you just had to go to college for women’s studies or something. So better keep importing your Mexicans to do the basics. While you are at it, get them to build a factory that makes your psych meds. If China- India stop the supplies, the Wuflu is the least of our problems. The main boomer failure, besides the lousy politicians, was not smacking the living h#ll of your collective backsides.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke, Clyde
    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  84. @Anon

    Orthomolecular medicine is bullshit science. As was Pauling in his late phase. Quack, quack….

  85. @Travis

    CV will kill more boomers than pre-boomers.

    Perhaps it was cooked up in a lab by our own Kronos, or a similar generational obsessive.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  86. i’m on board with halting flights from Italy. i’m on board with more testing, better testing, and i do wonder if CDC Atlanta partly messed up due to diversicrats.

    “If there really is a plague then how is this also their plan”

    open borders has been the plan since the 60s at least. how can you stop chinese illegals coming across the border if you don’t even have a border? how many chinese illegals in the last 2 months?

    “This is the first time I have seriously regretted voting for Trump. He is blowing it big time. In November I actually might vote for the guy with dementia”

    why? what crazy idea do you have that the Democrats would have a better response? all evidence suggests they would be a lot worse at this. they don’t even want the country to have any borders at all. do you even remember the Obama administration? they deliberately let in Ebola patients and ended the law of keeping HIV immigrants out.

    “Pennsylvania’s top tranny medical authority”

    a jewish tranny as Health Comissioner. thank you, governor Wolf.

  87. anonymous[584] • Disclaimer says:
    @Just Passing Through

    We are all just passing through, Pea-brain.

    When you graduate, you will begin to appreciate that fact.

  88. OT: Harvey- say hello to Bubba.

    • LOL: Kratoklastes
  89. Anon[410] • Disclaimer says:

    Well, somebody finally did the research we needed. Chinese researchers published a paper about the link between bad Covid-19 outcomes and smoking. It’s very bad. Unfortunately, it’s locked. You have to have a login to view it.

    Here’s a quote from it, though:

    “Among Chinese patients diagnosed with COVID-19 associated pneumonia, the odds of disease progression (including to death) were 14 times higher among people with a history of smoking compared to those who did not smoke. This was the strongest risk factor among those examined.”

    My bolding. An indirect link to the paper is at the link here:

    https://tobacco.ucsf.edu/comment/33121#comment-33121

    Here’s a link to the locked paper itself. Maybe somebody has the credentials to get in:

    https://journals.lww.com/cmj/Abstract/publishahead/Analysis_of_factors_associated_with_disease.99363.aspx

    Here’s links to a couple other papers saying why smokers are more prone to ARDS (acute respiratory distress syndrome).

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26010690

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24942512

    By the way, smoking depletes your Vitamin D levels, and you need Vitamin D to fight off viruses, especially coronaviruses.

  90. ic1000 says:
    @ic1000

    GenomeWeb (registration required) just published an article that gives an excellent snapshot of the state of the Covid-19 testing ramp-up in the US. This is a molecular diagnostics trade-press webzine, so the focus is pretty technical.

    In Coronavirus Assay Validation for Emergency Use, Labs Encounter Multiple Pain Points.

  91. El Dato says:
    @Chris Renner

    In the “Garden of Hope” section of the Los Osos Valley Memorial Park, there is a granite and bronze marker honoring the 42 victims of Flight 1771, and a number of the passengers and crew are buried in that cemetery.

    That racist memorial will not stand!

  92. Goatweed says:

    With China holding the line at just over 3000 dead, hard to see how we get anywhere near that.

  93. El Dato says:

    Woops.

    A disquieting curve to find printed on your morning cereal.

  94. Anon[410] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    I thought from the very beginning smoking would be the most important factor. Non-smokers with good Vitamin D levels are likely to have only a light case, or maybe show no symptoms at all.

    Unfortunately, the death rate among smokers will be bad if they can’t make themselves quit right now. Those with the least amount of lung damage might make it through if they stop immediately.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  95. El Dato says:
    @Anon

    Big heaps of irony if the smoking ban that many were railing against turns out to save lives.

  96. ‘Personally, I’m holed up in my walk-in closet/office. Of course, that’s the same as I am 350 days per year most years anyway. But I’m counting on you to make bigger sacrifices for the sake of old-timers like me.’

    We’re all eventually going to be exposed — and then this nonsense will be over.

    About all there is to be said for precautions is that they will space things out, which will help to ensure hospitals don’t get overrun.

  97. @Reg Cæsar

    I thought Feryl was the resident generational obsessive?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  98. MEH 0910 says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Tiny Duck, the regressive Poachers of Color killed the whites:

    • Agree: Houston 1992
    • Replies: @Liza
  99. @dr kill

    The last time I ate at Flanigan’s, I threw up in the parking lot. (This was in Dade, mind you.) I’d had many enjoyable meals there, so I figured it was just my unlucky day. But I haven’t gone back since. I haven’t deliberately avoided it so much as I’ve just found other places to eat.

    Also, two good friends of mine who worked at that particular outlet both died untimely deaths – one in a freak accident and the other of cancer. So eating there makes me think of death.

    Still, the lunch special is a good deal. (At least, it used to be – it’s been a couple of years.)

  100. Liza says:
    @MEH 0910

    Prolly sold those white giraffes’ parts to the Chinese. They need that kind of stuff as aphrodisiacs. You see, they don’t have enough offspring over there.

    Or – maybe local witch doctors need them for their magic rituals. They do kill and use albino Negroes to make magic potions.

    It is true.

  101. Elli says:
    @Bert

    What about the 60 year old who has young people living at home. Plenty of them with young adults and teenagers.

  102. danand says:
    @Clyde

    “Did an affirmative action bomb drop on the CDC, location Atlanta?”

    Clyde, Only a few labs approved by the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention, including the one at its headquarters in Atlanta, were allowed to analyze samples until about a week ago. Under pressure from state and local governments, the CDC expanded their testing guidelines last Thursday.

    After the government “ban” on commercial testing was lifted (turned out in this case “good enough for government work” was not good enough), two private companies jumped in.

    Lab Corporation announced last week was immediately offering testing for COVID-19, while Quest Diagnostics said it will start testing specimens this week.

    Even San Francisco’s public health director was praising “private companies for quickly stepping up to the plate” in his remarks today. Last week Stanford University, sick of waiting on the feds, developed their own coronavirus test. After a positive result, Stanford’s Palo Alto campus closed, follow a couple days later by the other universities in Santa Clara county.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  103. notsaying says:

    President Trump is still not listening to his advisors. I see the big story at the Daily Mail is about his speech tonight and while he wants to take action he is still insisting this will all blow over quickly. Nobody told him that except himself!

    He continued: ‘Now we’re hitting a patch and we’re going to have to do something with respect to getting rid of this virus as quickly as possible and as safely as possible.’

    He predicted problems would be a short term, after he and advisors encouraged investors to buy in the stock market.

    ‘We think it’s going to be a short term period,’ Trump said. ‘If we get rid of it quickly, everything solves itself,’ Trump said.

    What’s he going to do if the effects linger or really take the economy down a lot? What has to happen for him to face reality here?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8101591/Donald-Trump-tweets-plea-calm-White-House-emergency-meeting-coronavirus.html

  104. @JMcG

    What do we get from it? Research into gun violence as a public health hazard…

    I do agree with you about libertarians though!

    You think our tax dollars should pay for research on “gun violence”?

    I can give you the answer for free– guns don’t commit violence! I guess I’ve swallowed some of that libertarian poison, haven’t I?

    • Replies: @JMcG
  105. JMcG says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Sorry, wasn’t clear. I was making the point that, rather than stick to its knitting and working to mitigate the effects of infectious disease, the CDC has been off on politically motivated wild goose chases. I certainly don’t think that is a proper use of tax dollars.

  106. Remember it can’t just be you, it has to be all the members of your household. Quarantine your wife as well.

  107. @Achmed E. Newman

    This Anon refers to the Swamp as “your leaders”, that should tell you everything. 2+2=5

  108. dvorak says:

    Why does Rod Rosenstein’s sister, Dr. Messonnier of the CDC, remind me of the villain Dr. Peters from 12 MONKEYS?

    Her astonishing fatalism, in telling us that it’s OK and oh-well-too-bad that ‘many’ Americans will contract the virus, is villainous.

  109. @RebelWriter

    I’m about to turn 60. Looking at the death rates by age range I stand a good chance of making it to my birthday, but my odds of making 61 are half that.

    Unless you’ve been diagnosed with stage 4 cancer or the like, i doubt that very much.

  110. @Chris Renner

    We don’t need to “add” him to the mass murdering terminated black male employee list, he’s always been there.

    He’s also another case of immigrant mass murder syndrome.

  111. anon[234] • Disclaimer says:
    @Barnard

    NCAA is “supposed” to be a non profit public service organization. In fact, seems like their major purpose is to prevent players from being paid.

    If ratings go down so what. No social benefit from pumping more money into college sports.

    • Agree: AnotherDad
  112. @Barnard

    … this could be a very bad year for the NCAA.

    Good. It’s pathetic so many white people glue themselves to their TVs for this stuff. C’mon white people, if you really need sporting action … we’ve got golf to watch! (Player’s tees off–right up the road–in less than 12 hours.)

  113. @Tiny Duck

    “Meaning=Blacks, Jews, Latinos, Hispanics, Immigrants, Muslims, Women, Homosexuals, TransPersons, and others that not white males.”

    Yes, that’s quite a set you have there. I’m sure the Muslims will love the trans people, the blacks will love the homosexuals, etc.

    Why would anyone cheer for a country to turn into something resembling Brazil, except with more groups at each other’s throats?

  114. SFG says:
    @AnonymousMillenial

    Whatever, Millennial.

    Seriously, I am doing what I can to push social distancing. I’m purposely vague given this is a dissident blog and I still need my day job, but trust me that I have the welfare of oldsters very much in mind.

    I mean, I want Trump to win. 😉

  115. @Anon

    I’m curious about Covid-19 and susceptibility and mortality rates for those with chronic lung disease (I have asthma.) I’ve got to imagine it is way higher.

    I guess we’ll learn in time. I’m amazed at how quickly some of this research is getting done, but perhaps the rapidity of confirmation or rejection of hypotheses, and speed of insights in our connected age is way more higher than it used to be, a couple of decades ago.

  116. Clyde says:
    @Anon

    I always take vitamins C, D, K2 but higher doses until this pestilence blows over. Vitamin C in the form of magnesium ascorbate.

  117. @JMcG

    You are probably right about the funding of public health then. I have no clue. But that sounds right – they are researching Muh Gun Violence and ignoring real threats.

  118. @Anon

    A father and son ski trip got back recently to the nice San Fernando Valley suburb of Tarzana from the Dolomites in Italy. All 14 vigorous, affluent skiers are infected and 4 are hospitalized.

  119. @El Dato

    Is this that Brad Pitt movie “1200 Monkeys”?

  120. @dr kill

    Son#2 Said the rest of the country is freaked the fuk out.
    I’m glad I don’t live in the rest of the country.

    Well living in South Florida … you’ve got the heat and humidity working in your favor so you have good reason not to be freaked out. They don’t have that up north.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  121. @El Dato

    “Whadda you mean my EBT card is cancelled?”

  122. Dtbb says:
    @J.Ross

    OT: Hey J. Ross, did you ever find out about who the german man was who plowed all those kids with his car on carnival?
    All I can find are the weeks old stories with no info.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Reg Cæsar
  123. J.Ross says:
    @Dtbb

    Confirm it was a white native German attacking putative traditionists, compare how long it took the FBI to figure out the motive of the Vegas shooter. I expect nothing but will look around though.

  124. @The Wild Geese Howard

    I thought Feryl was the resident generational obsessive?

    Thanks. That name slipped my mind. But the two make a vigorous tag team.

  125. @Dtbb

    This is interesting, though:

    Court approves statue of Soviet leader Lenin in Germany

    As Derb pointed out, Lenin was a bigger killer than Mao, Stalin, or Hitler per annum. someone put a Hitler mask on this statue.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  126. @AnotherDad

    you’ve got the heat and humidity working in your favor so you have good reason not to be freaked out. They don’t have that up north.

    Give us a few months.

  127. @Coag

    If it were a white guy responsible for the foul-up, his picture would be on the front page of the New York Times and Washington Post, as “The Face of Medical Incompetence in the Current Year”.

  128. Why would anyone cheer for a country to turn into something resembling Brazil, except with more groups at each other’s throats?

    Brazil is a lot more coherent than any English-speaking land. When wax the last time you saw a cereal box in one language?


    • Replies: @Jack D
  129. @Bert

    Also: emergency funding for repurposing of some domestic manufacturing to making medical equipment and supplies, and a paid training program for under-30s to become medics and EMTs.

  130. Clyde says:
    @danand

    Either CDC are total imbeciles or trying to sabotage Trump. Make him look bad so a Dem gets elected. CDC should have been called out ages ago about not enough C-Virus test labs.

    Trump should have ordered more c-Virus test labs. Maybe his people/team was not informed on this.
    Rod Rosenstein’s sister is a CDC higher up>>>>>> Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the agency’s director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases,

    • Replies: @Corn
  131. Clyde says:
    @Coag

    I know this is another “friend of a friend” anecdote so take it for what it’s worth. But someone I know was told by her acquaintance who works at the CDC in Atlanta that when stepping into work everyday she sees a “sea of black faces”. Gives you an idea of the high level of Diversity/Inclusion/Equity being correctly practiced at the CDC to represent and reflect the wider Hotlanta community.

    I was guessing this is the f’ed situation and have posted this a few times here. Atlanta was kind of happening 30 years ago, now it is circling the drain.

    The CDC might as well be head quartered in Harlem, NY/

  132. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    One language? You mean “Corn Flakes” is Portuguese?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  133. Corn says:
    @Clyde

    “Either CDC are total imbeciles or trying to sabotage Trump. ”

    At the risk of sounding paranoid I wouldn’t doubt it. Supposedly the American passengers on that Diamond Princess cruiseship were returned to the US against Trump’s wishes. Some CDC flack simply ordered them home.

  134. @Jack D

    One language? You mean “Corn Flakes” is Portuguese?

    The name doesn’t count. Tabasco is Mayan, but the rest of the label is in English.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  135. @Reg Cæsar

    This mask looks more like Lawrence Auster, don’t you think?

  136. ic1000 says:
    @ic1000

    What went wrong with the coronavirus tests in the U.S.
    By Carolyn Johnson, Washington Post, March 7, 2020 (paywalled)

    On Feb. 12, the CDC announced [that their original covid19] test was providing inconclusive results in some laboratories. The problem was in one of the three components of the test. It involved a part of the third component intended to be a backstop — a double-check so that when labs get a negative result, they can trust it. A federal official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because there is an ongoing investigation, said the problem may have been a design flaw or contamination in a CDC lab when the tests were being produced.

  137. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    You’ll notice that Tabasco is a registered trademark. You cannot trademark a name that is merely descriptive. You’ll notice that “Corn Flakes” is not a registered trademark because the product consists of flakes of corn.

    If I buy a bottle of Leblon Cachaça, then the word Cachaça is not a name, it is a description of the product. The description of the product is in another language because we didn’t have this product or a name for it in our culture and so it became known by its original Portuguese name . No one pretends that Cachaça is not a Portuguese word. The same thing happened with Corn Flakes in reverse.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  138. @Jack D

    If I buy a bottle of Leblon Cachaça

    Leblon is the birthplace of Antonio Carlos Jobim. It’s the North Miami Beach of the Southern Hemisphere. But the drink hails from Minas Gerais. (Is “General Mines” an appropriate name for a state? We don’t call Idaho or Maine “Potato Farms”.)

    Cachaça has three different pronunciations of C. Are there similar English words or names? Chicagocide?

    It also has a cedilla, which is Spanish for “little Z(ed)”. But Spanish is the only western Romance language that doesn’t use them. Spaniards and their spawn prefer the big Z(ed).

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