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My 9/7/16 column in Taki’s Magazine, “Political Punk Rock,” also included this passage:

Speaking of offensive ideas, if Trump is as bad as we’ve been told, isn’t it about time for Hillary to withdraw?

All August we heard that Donald Trump would either get America into a nuclear war with Russia, or sell out the country to Putin, or both.

Meanwhile, Hillary was hanging out in Steven Spielberg’s guesthouse in the Hamptons, going to fund-raisers with the Rothschilds, and emerging mostly to denounce the “alt-right.” After all, August is supposed to be a slow month, so it makes sense to rest up for Labor Day, the traditional launch date of the presidential campaign.

Hillary showed up Monday, spoke a few words of her Labor Day oration…and started to cough. And cough. And cough some more.

Then she got on her airplane, which she allowed the press to ride on for the first time. After having long dodged questions, she even deigned to entertain reporters’ hard-hitting questions about whether all the conspiracy theorizing over her coughing was sexist.

She got rolling on how Putin is conspiring with Trump to make her look bad with leaks, but then broke down coughing again and had to retreat to her lounge. …

Clearly, a Russian FSB agent must have jabbed Hillary with a polonium-laced umbrella tip. Probably this one:

Still, Hillary is not a good candidate. Regression to the mean suggests she probably won’t have too many days worse than her Labor Day, but Hillary is clearly Trump’s best hope of being elected.

So, if Trump is a risk to blow up the world, isn’t Hillary morally obligated to stand down and let a more electable Democrat run in her place?

Or is that all just talk?

If Hillary announced she were withdrawing due to her health, who would replace her? I’d guess that Tim Kaine, a solid generic Democrat, would move up to the top spot and Sen. Elizabeth Warren would be brought in to fill the women’s spot on the ticket vacated by Hillary.

Other plausible names include VP Joe Biden and runner-up Bernie Sanders, with Michelle Obama as an outside possibility for VP.

Moving Kaine up to the top of the ticket then means there’s no woman on the ticket, so I was figuring Warren, but Michelle would tick the woman and black boxes.

How could these five pieces fit together into a 2 person ticket?

It’s a complicated problem.

 
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  1. Michelle seems very healthy. She looks like she is in great shape.

  2. Trump would absolutely destroy Michelle. It would be a total joke.

  3. Hillary’s not dropping out. She must have The Precious, even if it means falling into the molten lava at the center of Mount Doom.

    • Replies: @Broski
    @JerryC

    Exactly. This is a lifetime of singular focus at issue.

    , @IA
    @JerryC

    Is this from a book, movie, or game?

    Replies: @Brutusale

  4. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Meme has spread today that Hillary fainted today which is an obvious lie. She clearly had a seizure.

    Hillary’s body stiffened in the video. Her head remained upright. The images in the video are so creepy because of the unnatural stiffening. Not fainting where the body goes limp.

    Hillary Clinton had a seizure today. Swapping out seizure for fainting spell is a massive victory for team Hillary.

    She can slip the noose on this catastrophe if the country believes she fainted. But if the country believes she had a seizure then it’s over.

    • Replies: @wren
    @Anonymous

    I watched that famous YouTube Hillary health video about her seizures a few weeks ago, and when I saw her head jerking around today, that is the first thing I thought about.

    http://youtu.be/OqbDBRWb63s

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @artichoke
    @Anonymous

    Unlike other seizure like events, this time her head didn't bobble, and the event went on a long time. Is it possible to have such a rigid seizure?

    If a seizure lasted that long it may have caused substantial permanent (additional) damage.

    , @Broski
    @Anonymous

    Except that seizures are likely to keep recurring. One wonders if even her refusal to have many primary debates arose from a fear of public seizures.

    Replies: @Olorin

    , @Milo Minderbinder
    @Anonymous

    Are they even conceding that she "fainted."?

    , @SPMoore8
    @Anonymous

    You can tell if she had a seizure if the DNC announces this week that they support her 1000%.

  5. This could spark a new strategy.

    A “generic” Democrat always polls ahead of any particular Democrat; likewise Republicans.

    The parties could insert a sufficiently generic candidate at the last minute and reap this arbitrage.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    @bomag

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8lUZEenFfk

    , @Ozymandias
    @bomag

    "The parties could insert a sufficiently generic candidate at the last minute and reap this arbitrage."

    Said candidate could be not only generic but anonymous as well, simply referred to as 'Not Trump.

    , @The Man From K Street
    @bomag

    Like Egg McMuffin's "Nathan Johnson"?

  6. Tim Kaine doesn’t have much star power. He’s such a beta male, as PUA blogs would put it, that I cringe whenever I see him speak.

    Joe Biden would be ok, definitely a better choice than Hillary, but he’s old and (understandably) still probably broken up about his son’s death.

    Bernie Sanders would have been more competitive than Hillary against Trump, but he’s still a weak pick and there’s no way the Democratic Establishment would go with him.

    Elizabeth Warren would definitely be the strongest choice of those you’ve listed, though I’m not sure if she even wants to be President.

    Michelle Obama is sick of public life, so I don’t think she’ll do anything except work in sinecures from here on out. She’s insecure about how she’s not as bright or charismatic as her husband. I don’t see her handling the pressure well.

    In general, there really aren’t that many great Dems waiting to run, because they were so eviscerated by the 2010 and 2014 Congressional races, as well as in the gubernatorial races. That said, I think that Cory Booker and Kirsten Gillibrand seem like credible candidates. Whether they are or not is anyone’s guess.

    We also shouldn’t get our hopes up about the Dems. They’ve completely given themselves over to open borders, Muslim migrants, transgender bathrooms, and The Great Replacement. They really need to lose this presidential election, if only so that they will have the opportunity to see how ludicrous their ideas have become. While Trump is a weak candidate in many respects, he needs Hillary to counteract those weaknesses, as hers are even worse.

  7. Yeah, Michelle has been tee’d up for quite some time. She would not be a surprising pick. I think the repubes would be well advised to seek out Chewbacca as their alternative.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @The Alarmist

    She isn't interested. Michelle spends about three months a year on vacation. Plus she would have even less interest in actually doing the work required of the President than her husband did. The Obamas post White House life will be relatively easy and very lucrative. There is no benefit to delaying it.

    Replies: @Blobby5, @EriK, @The Alarmist

  8. Hillary ain’t going nowhere. She’ll waddle up to the podium for the first debate and as soon as she attempts to give her first response, Trump will point one o’them hand held air horns in her direction and give her a big honk.

    Then he’ll grin at the crowd while she stands there floppin’ her head all here and there in response to the horn.

    The crowd hollerin’ U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!,. in perfect rhythm to the flops of her noggin.

  9. I don’t know about replacing Hillary.

    My guess is that they’d have to remove her shot at the Presidency from her cold, dead fangs.

  10. What about someone who’s an outsider but already known to the public? Someone like Jeff Bezos or Tim Cook?

    • Replies: @Joe Sweet
    @Cagey Beast


    What about someone who’s an outsider but already known to the public? Someone like Jeff Bezos or Tim Cook?

     

    You just triggered the hell out of me.
  11. @Anonymous
    Meme has spread today that Hillary fainted today which is an obvious lie. She clearly had a seizure.

    Hillary's body stiffened in the video. Her head remained upright. The images in the video are so creepy because of the unnatural stiffening. Not fainting where the body goes limp.

    Hillary Clinton had a seizure today. Swapping out seizure for fainting spell is a massive victory for team Hillary.

    She can slip the noose on this catastrophe if the country believes she fainted. But if the country believes she had a seizure then it's over.

    Replies: @wren, @artichoke, @Broski, @Milo Minderbinder, @SPMoore8

    I watched that famous YouTube Hillary health video about her seizures a few weeks ago, and when I saw her head jerking around today, that is the first thing I thought about.

    http://youtu.be/OqbDBRWb63s

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @wren

    Parkinson's. Or maybe just liberal nut syndrome- she's been stewing in irrational ideology all her adult life. That'd cook anyone's cranium.

  12. What about the simplest solutions. People check or have already checked her name on the set ballots, she wins, she can’t serve, Kaine takes over by default. Or Trump wins. Dems hold their breath either way.

    • Replies: @artichoke
    @Anon87

    If she looks too impaired, she will probably lose. And that's what the Dems want most to avoid.

    They would be thrilled to get Hillary to inauguration. Then she could drop out, or drop dead, and Kaine would be in. Obviously Kaine was picked as a potential president that they're happy enough with i.e. he's on the team.

  13. Jim Webb

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Webb has already boarded the Trump train. He endorsed him the other day.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Cagey Beast
    @Anonymous

    Jim Webb would have to transform the Democrats on the fly the way Trump is doing with the GOP but in only 50 days. He'd have his Never Webbs too.

  14. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Kaine and Biden don’t have much traction with the Dem base, they haven’t been campaigning, Biden comes across as a loose cannon, and Kaine would have that whole Southern white man thing (which practically makes him Satan to the Dem core). Neither one has any of the diversity that Dems increasingly need to pull off elections. All these female voters, the reason why Hillary has been doing as well as it has against Trump are synching up their ovaries for a historical first woman in office; they won’t be too happy with another white male Dem candidate. And even though they won’t say it, alot of those probably don’t click with Michelle- too much blatant anti-white racism from that one.

    Who’s left? Warren, Bernie? I don’t see Warren as someone who could bring in the interest, particularly this late in the game. Even considering that some women would vote for her out of sexism. Given Bernie’s (relatively) recent campaigning and recognition amongst the dems, if he could get a number of those Hillary supporters to switch back to him (and he has been playing the faithful dem in supporting Hillary despite the rigged DNC against him), I think he looks like the most likely one who might be able to pull off a candidate swap.

    • Replies: @artichoke
    @Anonymous

    What Hillary and Obama want to know is, would he pardon them and keep them out of prison? That uncertainty may be why so many establishment Dems were NeverSanders at the convention. His recent displays of compliance may lighten their concerns. And besides, if they run Hillary and she loses, or croaks before the election, then they've got Trump who has no interest in protecting them.

    , @Daniel H
    @Anonymous

    >>Kaine and Biden don’t have much traction with the Dem base,...

    A certain segment - a powerful segment, those with money and media access - of the Democratic base will forgive Kaine for once expressing reservations about abortion.

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Anonymous

    Barak steps in and runs for a 3rd term. Unconstitutional? Yes. But who would call him on it?

    , @eD
    @Anonymous

    "Kaine would have that whole Southern white man thing"

    After seeing the Hillary Clinton "fainting" video, I went and checked Kaine's Wikipedia bio since it is stating to look like he is the real Democratic nominee.

    Kaine is not Southern. He was born in Minnesota, grew up in Kansas and Missouri, and moved to Richmond after graduate school because his wife is from there. And anyway the Donks have had Bill Clinton and Al Gore as their presidential nominees, and John Edwards as their Vice Presidential nominee (not counting Gore), so I don't see where the argument that they won't nominate a white male Southerner from. Since World War 2, six of their seventeen presidential nominations, and seven of their seventeen vice presidential nominations, have gone to white Southern men, and I'm not counting Truman or Barkley in that category.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Anon

    , @Brutusale
    @Anonymous

    Kaine is another centrist hiding his Marxist leanings. He spent time in Central America back in the 80s with a radical Jesuit, sucking up liberation theology theory straight from the tap.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/295229-tim-kaines-radical-roots

  15. Saw this tag, thought I’d share:

    #ImWithHearse

  16. @wren
    @Anonymous

    I watched that famous YouTube Hillary health video about her seizures a few weeks ago, and when I saw her head jerking around today, that is the first thing I thought about.

    http://youtu.be/OqbDBRWb63s

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Parkinson’s. Or maybe just liberal nut syndrome– she’s been stewing in irrational ideology all her adult life. That’d cook anyone’s cranium.

  17. What I want to know is, what does it take for the Dems to change nominees? A majority vote of DNC members? Plurality? Do they have to bring back the convention delegates? I assume Hillary has to step down (or die) but is that even true?

    Then there’s the matter of getting the new name on state ballots under the Dem line after the state deadlines, when competing candidates Trump, Johnson and Stein would probably sue to stop it in each state because they are interested parties. Would they have standing?

    And if they can’t get NewCandidate on the ballot in say California, then when California votes for Hillary Clinton, those electors would not be allowed to vote for NewCandidate in the Electoral College on the first ballot. Granted that doesn’t help Trump get to 270, but it probably stops anyone else from getting there too.

  18. I would think that once a vice presidential candidate has been named to the ticket, he would be the one to carry on if anything happened to the presidential nominee. That’s kind of the purpose of the whole nominating process. Therefore it would have to be Kaine, or at least Kaine would get the right of first refusal, which the party bosses may “encourage” him to exercise. If Kaine withdraws after Hillary withdraws (quite likely in my opinion), then I imagine the DNC would simply pick their replacement candidate in a smokey backroom, and at that point all bets would be off.

    I rather doubt any of the names listed above would go for it. The purpose of the backroom meeting—which I suspect is even now being arranged—will be to figure out how to pay off all the quid pro quos negotiated through the Clinton Foundation. A candidate will be selected to that end. Another well-connected Neocon globalist and not necessarily someone who is a household name today. Perhaps Madeleine Albright (although she’s rather old) or someone like that.

    • Replies: @The Man From K Street
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Albright is ineligible--foreign birth.

    The DNC rules are that the committee gets together, each state getting as many "votes" as it proportionally has in the entire delegate count. Superdelegates also get to vote. Kaine dies not get it by default. The RNC gives a single vote to each of three people from each state: the RNC committeeman, the RNC committeewoman, and the state party chair. They also have the option of reconvening the entire GOP convention.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    , @TheBoom
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Biden polls well. He is an idiot but he would only have a little over a month to campaign so he won't have a lot of time to stick his foot in his mouth. The press sure won't call him on his BS and lying.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

  19. Anonymous [AKA "Little Guy"] says:
    @Anonymous
    Jim Webb

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Cagey Beast

    Webb has already boarded the Trump train. He endorsed him the other day.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Cite? Thanks in advance

    Replies: @Anonymous

  20. @The Alarmist
    Yeah, Michelle has been tee'd up for quite some time. She would not be a surprising pick. I think the repubes would be well advised to seek out Chewbacca as their alternative.

    Replies: @Barnard

    She isn’t interested. Michelle spends about three months a year on vacation. Plus she would have even less interest in actually doing the work required of the President than her husband did. The Obamas post White House life will be relatively easy and very lucrative. There is no benefit to delaying it.

    • Replies: @Blobby5
    @Barnard

    Love of country? Hah!

    , @EriK
    @Barnard

    I couldn't agree more.

    , @The Alarmist
    @Barnard

    I dunno... Once you've flown AF-1, it's hard to go back to a lowly GS V. Besides, they've already perfected the part-time Presidency. A more interested Democrat (or Republican for that matter ) might really [email protected] up America... We should be grateful for Trump.

  21. @Anonymous
    Kaine and Biden don't have much traction with the Dem base, they haven't been campaigning, Biden comes across as a loose cannon, and Kaine would have that whole Southern white man thing (which practically makes him Satan to the Dem core). Neither one has any of the diversity that Dems increasingly need to pull off elections. All these female voters, the reason why Hillary has been doing as well as it has against Trump are synching up their ovaries for a historical first woman in office; they won't be too happy with another white male Dem candidate. And even though they won't say it, alot of those probably don't click with Michelle- too much blatant anti-white racism from that one.

    Who's left? Warren, Bernie? I don't see Warren as someone who could bring in the interest, particularly this late in the game. Even considering that some women would vote for her out of sexism. Given Bernie's (relatively) recent campaigning and recognition amongst the dems, if he could get a number of those Hillary supporters to switch back to him (and he has been playing the faithful dem in supporting Hillary despite the rigged DNC against him), I think he looks like the most likely one who might be able to pull off a candidate swap.

    Replies: @artichoke, @Daniel H, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @eD, @Brutusale

    What Hillary and Obama want to know is, would he pardon them and keep them out of prison? That uncertainty may be why so many establishment Dems were NeverSanders at the convention. His recent displays of compliance may lighten their concerns. And besides, if they run Hillary and she loses, or croaks before the election, then they’ve got Trump who has no interest in protecting them.

  22. @Anonymous
    Jim Webb

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Cagey Beast

    Jim Webb would have to transform the Democrats on the fly the way Trump is doing with the GOP but in only 50 days. He’d have his Never Webbs too.

  23. Steve, you’re thinking like my brother. Like there is still an America, a representative constitutional federal democracy. Instead of various noble houses competing for power.

    Hillary! would only back out IF Chelsea or Bill can serve instead. The Noble House of Clinton MUST defeat not only Trump, the usurper, but the rival House of Obama. From Hillary’s perspective, better Trump than Obama. If she loses, well the rival House of Obama is still out, and the House of Clinton can contend for control of the Democratic spoils machine.

    I’m sure Barack would prefer to continue the House of Obama’s domination of the Democratic Party spoils machine; for himself AND his followers, there are literally trillions of slush-fund decisions to be made.

    To make just one example, Warren Buffett makes billions every year on Burlington Northern, carrying oil from the fracking fields. Instead of the oil being sensibly and much cheaper transported by a pipeline. Which is also safer for communities subject to oil train derailments. Any questions why Buffett paid all that billions for Burlington Northern?

    It matters very much to the House of Clinton and Obama who makes those decisions, and reaps all the corrupt gains to be made, not just for them but their house followers, the Sidney Blumenthals, the Bidens, the Emmanuels, the Abedins, and so forth. Each Noble House probably has about a thousand big shots on retainer as the court; and that requires real money. For now Obama doesn’t need a foundation being President; while Clinton has been more exposed by not having the final say on big shot decisions like making sure Buffett makes lots more cash by transporting fracking oil.

    I fully expect Hillary! to be the nominee on Election Day, even if she’s comatose or dead. Huma and Chelsea would conceal that from us, and do whatever was needed to pretend Hillary is still competent/alive to take office. The Press would certainly go along — about three quarters of them are on the House of Clinton’s payroll one way or another (Stephanopoulus, Andrea Mitchell, Chuck Todd, etc.)

  24. What do the press/DNC/elites know about Hillary’s health and when did they know it?

  25. Is Obama himself ruled out (as VP?)

    Like Putin swapping out with Medvedev to dodge a term-limit.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @mobi

    Good one, scheming,dishonest and a raw use of political power. But it would be a transparent ruse, and BHO don't need no stinking ruse. He can just 'deem' himself president for four (or eight) more years! It comes with his plenipotentiary presidential powers, do you know?

  26. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Well Drudge is sticking with the description ‘faints’ in scare quotes instead of using seizure description. I suppose that is the smart play here.

    GOP should now want her dragged half dead over the finish line instead of knocked out in September.

    Cernovich is pounding the seizure angle with the anti-seizure prescription blue sunglasses. High-low strategy is let Breitbart Drudge Fox call it fainting and let the trench fighters hammer the seizure terminology.

  27. @Anonymous
    Meme has spread today that Hillary fainted today which is an obvious lie. She clearly had a seizure.

    Hillary's body stiffened in the video. Her head remained upright. The images in the video are so creepy because of the unnatural stiffening. Not fainting where the body goes limp.

    Hillary Clinton had a seizure today. Swapping out seizure for fainting spell is a massive victory for team Hillary.

    She can slip the noose on this catastrophe if the country believes she fainted. But if the country believes she had a seizure then it's over.

    Replies: @wren, @artichoke, @Broski, @Milo Minderbinder, @SPMoore8

    Unlike other seizure like events, this time her head didn’t bobble, and the event went on a long time. Is it possible to have such a rigid seizure?

    If a seizure lasted that long it may have caused substantial permanent (additional) damage.

  28. A comment that was NYT approved and one of the highest voted on the article about Clinton’s pneumonia was:

    J.D. USA 1 hour ago
    — And yet, I’d rather have an unconscious Clinton than a conscious Trump in office.

    They want Clinton not because who she is, but because she will allow the establishment to continue their actions unimpeded. She could be dead and they will still rally around her like she was El Cid.

    • Replies: @TheBoom
    @Pseudonymic Handle

    Also,much of the vote for Clinton is a vote against Trump. She doesn't even need to have a pulse for that. She just needs to not be Trump, something she can accomplish dead or alive.

    Replies: @European in America, @Jefferson

  29. @Anon87
    What about the simplest solutions. People check or have already checked her name on the set ballots, she wins, she can't serve, Kaine takes over by default. Or Trump wins. Dems hold their breath either way.

    Replies: @artichoke

    If she looks too impaired, she will probably lose. And that’s what the Dems want most to avoid.

    They would be thrilled to get Hillary to inauguration. Then she could drop out, or drop dead, and Kaine would be in. Obviously Kaine was picked as a potential president that they’re happy enough with i.e. he’s on the team.

  30. Did you not approve my love letter to Hillary from six days ago Steve?

  31. Why not go straight to Huma Abedin? Muslim, lip stick lesbian, Arab, strong long term sexual relationship with Hillary, destroyer of gender stereotypes and iconoclast of all fascist shibboleths, with all the right Jewish connections, what’s not to like?

    • Replies: @eD
    @Pat Hannagan

    "Why not go straight to Huma Abedin? Muslim, lip stick lesbian, Arab, strong long term sexual relationship with Hillary, destroyer of gender stereotypes and iconoclast of all fascist shibboleths, with all the right Jewish connections, what’s not to like?"

    During her husband's ridiculous runs for Mayor of New York, I couldn't figure out why they just didn't have Human run for that office.

    , @Anonymous
    @Pat Hannagan

    The Abedins are Indian Muslims, not Arabs.

  32. If Tim Kaine replaces Crooked Hildabeast on the ticket than The Democratic Party is guaranteed to lose to Donald Trump. So far in the 21st Century everytime The DNC puts up a generic cisgender Heterosexual White guy to represent the face of the party in a presidential election they always end up losing to The GOP, just look at John Kerry and Al Gore.

    The DNC in the 21st Century only wins presidential elections when they choose a Person Of Color or a woman.

  33. They won’t choose Warren. If the Democrats won, she’d have to vacate her Senate seat, and Republican governor would choose her replacement. The replacement would last only until the special election (145 to 160 days later), but it would still be one more seat for the Republicans in the first few months. Warren could resign on November 9th to get the clock rolling (or just indicate that she’d resign, which is what you can do in Massachusetts).

    Massachusetts took away the right for the Governor to appoint a replacement Senator, because they were worried Romney would choose a replacement for John Kerry. Then, right before Kennedy died, they gave the power to choose a replacement back to the governor, because Democrat Deval Patrick was governor.

    If Kaine gets elected, he has to resign his Senate seat. Democrat McAuliffe shooses his replacement, but Virgnia has statewide elections in November 2017 (for Governor, etc), so the Senator would be up for election on that date.

    So if it’s Kaine-Warren, and they win, then the Republicans have the Mass senate seat for the first three or four months. Then the Democrats will presumably win that seat back, unless Martha Coakley runs. Then a few months later, the Democrat in Virginia has a reëlection to deal with.

  34. Definitely Pocahontas for President, Kaine for VP…..but only if Poca is willing to go all out on the campaign trail…

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @pyrrhus

    Have any of you seen Warren debate? Seen her on the fly, without a script? She makes a Teleprompterless Obama look like Daniel Webster.

    She was lucky enough to get Scott Brown, the himbo's himbo, for a Senate opponent. She made it a habit of doing pressers with other politicians, who'd constantly step in to help her over her rough patches.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/11/08/elizabeth-warren-after-first-news-conference-acknowledges-she-trying-for-more-discretion/YLfFZFDz7VdCxjTrIND3hP/story.html

    Trump would be picking his teeth with her bones when the debate was over.

  35. Remind me, whatever happened to Julian Castro?

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Psmith

    "Remind me, whatever happened to Julian Castro?"

    Julian Castro was suppose to be the Mexican Barack Hussein Obama, but he turned out to be a dud. The 2012 DNC convention was suppose to be Julian's 2004 Barack moment of there is no red state America, no blue state America, there is only The United States Of America and 2016 was suppose to be his 2008 Barack like rise to the top of The Democratic Party.

    Steve should write a blog about where it all went wrong for Julian Castro. Why did he fail to live up to the expectations of the Left? What caused his downfall? Why is he yesterday's news? Why are his 15 minutes of fame up? Why is he already a flash in the pan at only 42 years of age?

  36. Hillary stays in; her fans don’t care about her health. Once elected, she takes office, then resigns in a few months due to health reasons after the Russians and Chinese and everyone else with copies starts revealing the Sec of State emails with all the deals she has made. Kaine pardons her. Warren runs for President in the next election as the new symbol of a new openly leftist Dem party.

  37. There was just one catch thought Yossarian. If Hillary is so ill that she must be replaced, she may not have the capacity to understand how sick she really is, especially if there is a neurological component and so would refuse to drop out.

  38. @JerryC
    Hillary's not dropping out. She must have The Precious, even if it means falling into the molten lava at the center of Mount Doom.

    Replies: @Broski, @IA

    Exactly. This is a lifetime of singular focus at issue.

  39. @Anonymous
    Meme has spread today that Hillary fainted today which is an obvious lie. She clearly had a seizure.

    Hillary's body stiffened in the video. Her head remained upright. The images in the video are so creepy because of the unnatural stiffening. Not fainting where the body goes limp.

    Hillary Clinton had a seizure today. Swapping out seizure for fainting spell is a massive victory for team Hillary.

    She can slip the noose on this catastrophe if the country believes she fainted. But if the country believes she had a seizure then it's over.

    Replies: @wren, @artichoke, @Broski, @Milo Minderbinder, @SPMoore8

    Except that seizures are likely to keep recurring. One wonders if even her refusal to have many primary debates arose from a fear of public seizures.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    @Broski

    Come now. This just demonstrates what a great woman she is. After all, didn't Gaius Julius Caesar and Alexander III of Macedon ("the Great") both have seizures?

    Just proves that she, like they, is favored of the gods!

    And so did Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov. He died of an especially bad one if I recall. If any of you are at Lenin's refrigerator any time soon, you might ask.

    What greater proof of her fitness to lead the onmarch through the institutions, with her following Barack Obama through this next phase of the Revolution?

  40. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Webb has already boarded the Trump train. He endorsed him the other day.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Cite? Thanks in advance

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=jim+webb+endorses+trump#

    Replies: @Anonymous

  41. @Anonymous
    Meme has spread today that Hillary fainted today which is an obvious lie. She clearly had a seizure.

    Hillary's body stiffened in the video. Her head remained upright. The images in the video are so creepy because of the unnatural stiffening. Not fainting where the body goes limp.

    Hillary Clinton had a seizure today. Swapping out seizure for fainting spell is a massive victory for team Hillary.

    She can slip the noose on this catastrophe if the country believes she fainted. But if the country believes she had a seizure then it's over.

    Replies: @wren, @artichoke, @Broski, @Milo Minderbinder, @SPMoore8

    Are they even conceding that she “fainted.”?

  42. @Barnard
    @The Alarmist

    She isn't interested. Michelle spends about three months a year on vacation. Plus she would have even less interest in actually doing the work required of the President than her husband did. The Obamas post White House life will be relatively easy and very lucrative. There is no benefit to delaying it.

    Replies: @Blobby5, @EriK, @The Alarmist

    Love of country? Hah!

  43. @Barnard
    @The Alarmist

    She isn't interested. Michelle spends about three months a year on vacation. Plus she would have even less interest in actually doing the work required of the President than her husband did. The Obamas post White House life will be relatively easy and very lucrative. There is no benefit to delaying it.

    Replies: @Blobby5, @EriK, @The Alarmist

    I couldn’t agree more.

  44. @Anonymous
    Meme has spread today that Hillary fainted today which is an obvious lie. She clearly had a seizure.

    Hillary's body stiffened in the video. Her head remained upright. The images in the video are so creepy because of the unnatural stiffening. Not fainting where the body goes limp.

    Hillary Clinton had a seizure today. Swapping out seizure for fainting spell is a massive victory for team Hillary.

    She can slip the noose on this catastrophe if the country believes she fainted. But if the country believes she had a seizure then it's over.

    Replies: @wren, @artichoke, @Broski, @Milo Minderbinder, @SPMoore8

    You can tell if she had a seizure if the DNC announces this week that they support her 1000%.

  45. But what about the paperwork? Deadlines are past in some sates, no?

    Isn’t Kaine the only possible replacement?

  46. She withdraws, for the good of the party, with a side deal of a fixed ticket in 2020 (when she will be strong again).

  47. @bomag
    This could spark a new strategy.

    A "generic" Democrat always polls ahead of any particular Democrat; likewise Republicans.

    The parties could insert a sufficiently generic candidate at the last minute and reap this arbitrage.

    Replies: @Olorin, @Ozymandias, @The Man From K Street

  48. I believe Bernie left the dem party.

  49. the democrats are in crisis mode behind the scenes right now what’s obama going to do ? he’s effed every thing else up ,but he better get this one “right”.

    • Replies: @newrouter
    @tyrone

    >he’s effed every thing else up ,but he better get this one “right”.<

    you can't do that "leading from behind"

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

  50. Anonymous [AKA "John Winthrop"] says:
    @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Cite? Thanks in advance

    Replies: @Anonymous

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Lol, thank you for the link. Pretty cool.

    I wouldn't call that an endorsement though.

  51. @tyrone
    the democrats are in crisis mode behind the scenes right now what's obama going to do ? he's effed every thing else up ,but he better get this one "right".

    Replies: @newrouter

    >he’s effed every thing else up ,but he better get this one “right”.<

    you can't do that "leading from behind"

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @newrouter

    No, it isn't you can't do that "leading from behind." It's "leading with his behind." And that is the all the difference in the world, because it is all the difference between great failure and catastrophic failure. Barack has tried both, and opted for the latter.

  52. @Anonymous
    Kaine and Biden don't have much traction with the Dem base, they haven't been campaigning, Biden comes across as a loose cannon, and Kaine would have that whole Southern white man thing (which practically makes him Satan to the Dem core). Neither one has any of the diversity that Dems increasingly need to pull off elections. All these female voters, the reason why Hillary has been doing as well as it has against Trump are synching up their ovaries for a historical first woman in office; they won't be too happy with another white male Dem candidate. And even though they won't say it, alot of those probably don't click with Michelle- too much blatant anti-white racism from that one.

    Who's left? Warren, Bernie? I don't see Warren as someone who could bring in the interest, particularly this late in the game. Even considering that some women would vote for her out of sexism. Given Bernie's (relatively) recent campaigning and recognition amongst the dems, if he could get a number of those Hillary supporters to switch back to him (and he has been playing the faithful dem in supporting Hillary despite the rigged DNC against him), I think he looks like the most likely one who might be able to pull off a candidate swap.

    Replies: @artichoke, @Daniel H, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @eD, @Brutusale

    >>Kaine and Biden don’t have much traction with the Dem base,…

    A certain segment – a powerful segment, those with money and media access – of the Democratic base will forgive Kaine for once expressing reservations about abortion.

  53. @JerryC
    Hillary's not dropping out. She must have The Precious, even if it means falling into the molten lava at the center of Mount Doom.

    Replies: @Broski, @IA

    Is this from a book, movie, or game?

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @IA

    Pretty much all three.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Doom

  54. Just let Huma wear a Hillary costume for public appearances. On second thought, there is some risk she will mutter, “M-M-Mother, I’ve tried to avoid bulging wieners like you asked.”

  55. @bomag
    This could spark a new strategy.

    A "generic" Democrat always polls ahead of any particular Democrat; likewise Republicans.

    The parties could insert a sufficiently generic candidate at the last minute and reap this arbitrage.

    Replies: @Olorin, @Ozymandias, @The Man From K Street

    “The parties could insert a sufficiently generic candidate at the last minute and reap this arbitrage.”

    Said candidate could be not only generic but anonymous as well, simply referred to as ‘Not Trump.

  56. @Anonymous
    Kaine and Biden don't have much traction with the Dem base, they haven't been campaigning, Biden comes across as a loose cannon, and Kaine would have that whole Southern white man thing (which practically makes him Satan to the Dem core). Neither one has any of the diversity that Dems increasingly need to pull off elections. All these female voters, the reason why Hillary has been doing as well as it has against Trump are synching up their ovaries for a historical first woman in office; they won't be too happy with another white male Dem candidate. And even though they won't say it, alot of those probably don't click with Michelle- too much blatant anti-white racism from that one.

    Who's left? Warren, Bernie? I don't see Warren as someone who could bring in the interest, particularly this late in the game. Even considering that some women would vote for her out of sexism. Given Bernie's (relatively) recent campaigning and recognition amongst the dems, if he could get a number of those Hillary supporters to switch back to him (and he has been playing the faithful dem in supporting Hillary despite the rigged DNC against him), I think he looks like the most likely one who might be able to pull off a candidate swap.

    Replies: @artichoke, @Daniel H, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @eD, @Brutusale

    Barak steps in and runs for a 3rd term. Unconstitutional? Yes. But who would call him on it?

  57. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=jim+webb+endorses+trump#

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Lol, thank you for the link. Pretty cool.

    I wouldn’t call that an endorsement though.

  58. @Anonymous
    Kaine and Biden don't have much traction with the Dem base, they haven't been campaigning, Biden comes across as a loose cannon, and Kaine would have that whole Southern white man thing (which practically makes him Satan to the Dem core). Neither one has any of the diversity that Dems increasingly need to pull off elections. All these female voters, the reason why Hillary has been doing as well as it has against Trump are synching up their ovaries for a historical first woman in office; they won't be too happy with another white male Dem candidate. And even though they won't say it, alot of those probably don't click with Michelle- too much blatant anti-white racism from that one.

    Who's left? Warren, Bernie? I don't see Warren as someone who could bring in the interest, particularly this late in the game. Even considering that some women would vote for her out of sexism. Given Bernie's (relatively) recent campaigning and recognition amongst the dems, if he could get a number of those Hillary supporters to switch back to him (and he has been playing the faithful dem in supporting Hillary despite the rigged DNC against him), I think he looks like the most likely one who might be able to pull off a candidate swap.

    Replies: @artichoke, @Daniel H, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @eD, @Brutusale

    “Kaine would have that whole Southern white man thing”

    After seeing the Hillary Clinton “fainting” video, I went and checked Kaine’s Wikipedia bio since it is stating to look like he is the real Democratic nominee.

    Kaine is not Southern. He was born in Minnesota, grew up in Kansas and Missouri, and moved to Richmond after graduate school because his wife is from there. And anyway the Donks have had Bill Clinton and Al Gore as their presidential nominees, and John Edwards as their Vice Presidential nominee (not counting Gore), so I don’t see where the argument that they won’t nominate a white male Southerner from. Since World War 2, six of their seventeen presidential nominations, and seven of their seventeen vice presidential nominations, have gone to white Southern men, and I’m not counting Truman or Barkley in that category.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @eD

    Clinton and Gore didn't carry very many Southern states. With John Edwards on the ticket in '04, W still swept the South.

    At this point, it really doesn't matter who the Dems would replace Hillary with. Trump will pretty much carry the South so they might as well nominate someone like Bernie. Perhaps a Sanders-Warren ticket.

    , @Anon
    @eD

    http://atlantablackstar.com/2016/07/25/clintons-new-vp-criticized-for-past-discriminatory-crime-fighting-project-could-hurt-her-outreach-to-black-voters/

    He is on the NRA hit list, but...

    Top gun lobbying group, the National Rifle Association, surprisingly backed the controversial initiative, along with gun control advocates, Democrats and Republicans, Reuters reports. Now, Kaine is said to support legislation that would soften some mandatory minimum federal sentences and give judges more discretion in said sentencing. However, representatives from his office assert that he’s still a supporter of firm sentences for illegal gun possession.

    Vice president of Families Against Mandatory Minimums, Kevin Ring said Kaine will have to prove that he’s “evolved” on the issue of mandatory minimum sentences to gain the support of Black voters.

    “There are some that will be bothered,” Ring said. “There will be questions.”

    Kaine’s past support of Project Exile displays a similar “law and order” stance on crime to that of GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump. According to Reuters, Trump has called for the program’s revival and his campaign website called the effects of the initiative “tremendous.”

    Replies: @Jefferson

  59. @Pat Hannagan
    Why not go straight to Huma Abedin? Muslim, lip stick lesbian, Arab, strong long term sexual relationship with Hillary, destroyer of gender stereotypes and iconoclast of all fascist shibboleths, with all the right Jewish connections, what's not to like?

    Replies: @eD, @Anonymous

    “Why not go straight to Huma Abedin? Muslim, lip stick lesbian, Arab, strong long term sexual relationship with Hillary, destroyer of gender stereotypes and iconoclast of all fascist shibboleths, with all the right Jewish connections, what’s not to like?”

    During her husband’s ridiculous runs for Mayor of New York, I couldn’t figure out why they just didn’t have Human run for that office.

  60. @newrouter
    @tyrone

    >he’s effed every thing else up ,but he better get this one “right”.<

    you can't do that "leading from behind"

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

    No, it isn’t you can’t do that “leading from behind.” It’s “leading with his behind.” And that is the all the difference in the world, because it is all the difference between great failure and catastrophic failure. Barack has tried both, and opted for the latter.

  61. Umbrella Man! Yay!

    Clearly, a Russian FSB agent must have jabbed Hillary with a polonium-laced umbrella tip.

    No no no. He jabbed her with curtain rods, which he carried wrapped in brown paper.

    Then he tried to make it to the Mexican border, because he was framed, like OJ.

    It’s not like he cut her with Occam’s razor or anything…

  62. @mobi
    Is Obama himself ruled out (as VP?)

    Like Putin swapping out with Medvedev to dodge a term-limit.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Good one, scheming,dishonest and a raw use of political power. But it would be a transparent ruse, and BHO don’t need no stinking ruse. He can just ‘deem’ himself president for four (or eight) more years! It comes with his plenipotentiary presidential powers, do you know?

  63. The only way Hillary is dropping out is if she is on life support and then that is only a maybe. Hillary is all about Hillary.

  64. @Pseudonymic Handle
    A comment that was NYT approved and one of the highest voted on the article about Clinton's pneumonia was:

    J.D. USA 1 hour ago
    -- And yet, I'd rather have an unconscious Clinton than a conscious Trump in office.
     
    They want Clinton not because who she is, but because she will allow the establishment to continue their actions unimpeded. She could be dead and they will still rally around her like she was El Cid.

    Replies: @TheBoom

    Also,much of the vote for Clinton is a vote against Trump. She doesn’t even need to have a pulse for that. She just needs to not be Trump, something she can accomplish dead or alive.

    • Replies: @European in America
    @TheBoom

    True, but the seizure and its consequent cover-up will turn off A LOT of undecideds. She's toast.

    Replies: @TheBoom

    , @Jefferson
    @TheBoom

    "Also,much of the vote for Clinton is a vote against Trump. She doesn’t even need to have a pulse for that. She just needs to not be Trump, something she can accomplish dead or alive."

    Can you imagine a dead Crooked Hildabeast corpse as POTUS. Her staff puts dark shades on her and drag her body around speaking for her like she is a ventriloquist dummy. It would be just like the film Weekend At Bernie's.
    https://youtu.be/YCTgcZ6ImsQ

    Weekend At Hillary's.

    Replies: @TheBoom

  65. @eD
    @Anonymous

    "Kaine would have that whole Southern white man thing"

    After seeing the Hillary Clinton "fainting" video, I went and checked Kaine's Wikipedia bio since it is stating to look like he is the real Democratic nominee.

    Kaine is not Southern. He was born in Minnesota, grew up in Kansas and Missouri, and moved to Richmond after graduate school because his wife is from there. And anyway the Donks have had Bill Clinton and Al Gore as their presidential nominees, and John Edwards as their Vice Presidential nominee (not counting Gore), so I don't see where the argument that they won't nominate a white male Southerner from. Since World War 2, six of their seventeen presidential nominations, and seven of their seventeen vice presidential nominations, have gone to white Southern men, and I'm not counting Truman or Barkley in that category.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Anon

    Clinton and Gore didn’t carry very many Southern states. With John Edwards on the ticket in ’04, W still swept the South.

    At this point, it really doesn’t matter who the Dems would replace Hillary with. Trump will pretty much carry the South so they might as well nominate someone like Bernie. Perhaps a Sanders-Warren ticket.

  66. Giant Douche, or … Turd Sandwich?

  67. @Pat Hannagan
    Why not go straight to Huma Abedin? Muslim, lip stick lesbian, Arab, strong long term sexual relationship with Hillary, destroyer of gender stereotypes and iconoclast of all fascist shibboleths, with all the right Jewish connections, what's not to like?

    Replies: @eD, @Anonymous

    The Abedins are Indian Muslims, not Arabs.

  68. It’s a complicated problem.

    No Steve, it’s comedy gold!

  69. Seizure. For sure. I used to work in a facility where we had many folks with seizures. That one looks just like one a co-worker had thirty something years ago.

    Bad too. I expect her to be doped to the gills and the ‘moderators’ throwing her softballs all evening during the debates. It will be a train wreck. I’ll have to watch it live.

  70. @Broski
    @Anonymous

    Except that seizures are likely to keep recurring. One wonders if even her refusal to have many primary debates arose from a fear of public seizures.

    Replies: @Olorin

    Come now. This just demonstrates what a great woman she is. After all, didn’t Gaius Julius Caesar and Alexander III of Macedon (“the Great”) both have seizures?

    Just proves that she, like they, is favored of the gods!

    And so did Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov. He died of an especially bad one if I recall. If any of you are at Lenin’s refrigerator any time soon, you might ask.

    What greater proof of her fitness to lead the onmarch through the institutions, with her following Barack Obama through this next phase of the Revolution?

  71. @TheBoom
    @Pseudonymic Handle

    Also,much of the vote for Clinton is a vote against Trump. She doesn't even need to have a pulse for that. She just needs to not be Trump, something she can accomplish dead or alive.

    Replies: @European in America, @Jefferson

    True, but the seizure and its consequent cover-up will turn off A LOT of undecideds. She’s toast.

    • Replies: @TheBoom
    @European in America

    After watching the propaganda coverage of her, I changed my opinion. There are a lot of uninformed voters, especially women, that don't get the extent they are being lied to by the press. The visuals of Hillary and the subsequent attempt at coverup by TV "news" might open some eyes because the lying is so easy to see unlike something like the Clinton Foundation or Benghazi.

  72. @TheBoom
    @Pseudonymic Handle

    Also,much of the vote for Clinton is a vote against Trump. She doesn't even need to have a pulse for that. She just needs to not be Trump, something she can accomplish dead or alive.

    Replies: @European in America, @Jefferson

    “Also,much of the vote for Clinton is a vote against Trump. She doesn’t even need to have a pulse for that. She just needs to not be Trump, something she can accomplish dead or alive.”

    Can you imagine a dead Crooked Hildabeast corpse as POTUS. Her staff puts dark shades on her and drag her body around speaking for her like she is a ventriloquist dummy. It would be just like the film Weekend At Bernie’s.

    Weekend At Hillary’s.

    • Replies: @TheBoom
    @Jefferson

    Dixon Diaz had a great cartoon yesterday with Hillary mourners looking at her in coffin and one telling her that she didn't care what the coroner says, we're still voting for you.

  73. @Psmith
    Remind me, whatever happened to Julian Castro?

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Remind me, whatever happened to Julian Castro?”

    Julian Castro was suppose to be the Mexican Barack Hussein Obama, but he turned out to be a dud. The 2012 DNC convention was suppose to be Julian’s 2004 Barack moment of there is no red state America, no blue state America, there is only The United States Of America and 2016 was suppose to be his 2008 Barack like rise to the top of The Democratic Party.

    Steve should write a blog about where it all went wrong for Julian Castro. Why did he fail to live up to the expectations of the Left? What caused his downfall? Why is he yesterday’s news? Why are his 15 minutes of fame up? Why is he already a flash in the pan at only 42 years of age?

  74. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @eD
    @Anonymous

    "Kaine would have that whole Southern white man thing"

    After seeing the Hillary Clinton "fainting" video, I went and checked Kaine's Wikipedia bio since it is stating to look like he is the real Democratic nominee.

    Kaine is not Southern. He was born in Minnesota, grew up in Kansas and Missouri, and moved to Richmond after graduate school because his wife is from there. And anyway the Donks have had Bill Clinton and Al Gore as their presidential nominees, and John Edwards as their Vice Presidential nominee (not counting Gore), so I don't see where the argument that they won't nominate a white male Southerner from. Since World War 2, six of their seventeen presidential nominations, and seven of their seventeen vice presidential nominations, have gone to white Southern men, and I'm not counting Truman or Barkley in that category.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Anon

    http://atlantablackstar.com/2016/07/25/clintons-new-vp-criticized-for-past-discriminatory-crime-fighting-project-could-hurt-her-outreach-to-black-voters/

    He is on the NRA hit list, but…

    Top gun lobbying group, the National Rifle Association, surprisingly backed the controversial initiative, along with gun control advocates, Democrats and Republicans, Reuters reports. Now, Kaine is said to support legislation that would soften some mandatory minimum federal sentences and give judges more discretion in said sentencing. However, representatives from his office assert that he’s still a supporter of firm sentences for illegal gun possession.

    Vice president of Families Against Mandatory Minimums, Kevin Ring said Kaine will have to prove that he’s “evolved” on the issue of mandatory minimum sentences to gain the support of Black voters.

    “There are some that will be bothered,” Ring said. “There will be questions.”

    Kaine’s past support of Project Exile displays a similar “law and order” stance on crime to that of GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump. According to Reuters, Trump has called for the program’s revival and his campaign website called the effects of the initiative “tremendous.”

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Anon

    "Vice president of Families Against Mandatory Minimums, Kevin Ring said Kaine will have to prove that he’s “evolved” on the issue of mandatory minimum sentences to gain the support of Black voters."

    Take out the word Families and rename it Single Black Mothers Against Mandatory Minimums. The vast majority of Blacks locked up in prison were not raised in traditional nuclear family households.

    Isn't it funny that the Left likes to claim that 99.99% of Blacks are law abiding citizens who have no criminal record, yet when they campaign to get the Black vote they try to win them over by promising if they get elected they are going to be extremely soft on crime.
    Why are they pandering to the minuscule 0.1% of criminals in the African American community? Shouldn't they be pandering to the 99.99% of Blacks who want to live in thug free neighborhoods? Shouldn't the political message of being soft on crime turn off the 99.99% of African American voters who look down on ghetto hood culture?

  75. @Barnard
    @The Alarmist

    She isn't interested. Michelle spends about three months a year on vacation. Plus she would have even less interest in actually doing the work required of the President than her husband did. The Obamas post White House life will be relatively easy and very lucrative. There is no benefit to delaying it.

    Replies: @Blobby5, @EriK, @The Alarmist

    I dunno… Once you’ve flown AF-1, it’s hard to go back to a lowly GS V. Besides, they’ve already perfected the part-time Presidency. A more interested Democrat (or Republican for that matter ) might really [email protected] up America… We should be grateful for Trump.

  76. I still have yet to see a lucid discussion on all the issues of changing the ticket at this late date. As a previous comment pointed out, Sanders left the democratic party. Does that matter? And if it’s true that a potential replacement would be chosen by the DNC, how important was DWS’ resignation as chairman? It seemed like a mostly symbolic gesture at the time, but it could be game changer now.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @JL

    Yeah, I've been reading up on the current interim DNC chairwoman, Donna Brazile. She's kind of an Oprah-like black lady with a pretty sharp wit who has been around forever in Democratic campaigns. She was briefly interim DNC chair before, in-between Tim Kaine and Debby Wasserman-Schultz.

    Replies: @Brutusale

  77. @JL
    I still have yet to see a lucid discussion on all the issues of changing the ticket at this late date. As a previous comment pointed out, Sanders left the democratic party. Does that matter? And if it's true that a potential replacement would be chosen by the DNC, how important was DWS' resignation as chairman? It seemed like a mostly symbolic gesture at the time, but it could be game changer now.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Yeah, I’ve been reading up on the current interim DNC chairwoman, Donna Brazile. She’s kind of an Oprah-like black lady with a pretty sharp wit who has been around forever in Democratic campaigns. She was briefly interim DNC chair before, in-between Tim Kaine and Debby Wasserman-Schultz.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Steve Sailer

    Heh...Oprah-like black lady. I see what you did there!

    She'll mesh well with Cankles and Huma.

  78. @bomag
    This could spark a new strategy.

    A "generic" Democrat always polls ahead of any particular Democrat; likewise Republicans.

    The parties could insert a sufficiently generic candidate at the last minute and reap this arbitrage.

    Replies: @Olorin, @Ozymandias, @The Man From K Street

    Like Egg McMuffin’s “Nathan Johnson”?

  79. @Intelligent Dasein
    I would think that once a vice presidential candidate has been named to the ticket, he would be the one to carry on if anything happened to the presidential nominee. That's kind of the purpose of the whole nominating process. Therefore it would have to be Kaine, or at least Kaine would get the right of first refusal, which the party bosses may "encourage" him to exercise. If Kaine withdraws after Hillary withdraws (quite likely in my opinion), then I imagine the DNC would simply pick their replacement candidate in a smokey backroom, and at that point all bets would be off.

    I rather doubt any of the names listed above would go for it. The purpose of the backroom meeting---which I suspect is even now being arranged---will be to figure out how to pay off all the quid pro quos negotiated through the Clinton Foundation. A candidate will be selected to that end. Another well-connected Neocon globalist and not necessarily someone who is a household name today. Perhaps Madeleine Albright (although she's rather old) or someone like that.

    Replies: @The Man From K Street, @TheBoom

    Albright is ineligible–foreign birth.

    The DNC rules are that the committee gets together, each state getting as many “votes” as it proportionally has in the entire delegate count. Superdelegates also get to vote. Kaine dies not get it by default. The RNC gives a single vote to each of three people from each state: the RNC committeeman, the RNC committeewoman, and the state party chair. They also have the option of reconvening the entire GOP convention.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @The Man From K Street


    Albright is ineligible–foreign birth.
     
    That wasn't my point. It's just that, in the nature of the case, I couldn't come up with another example of the kind of person I meant to suggest. I'm usually pretty spent by the time I get around to commenting on iSteve.

    Kaine dies not get it by default.
     
    I don't think Kaine could be denied the candidacy if he declared that he wanted it, no matter what the rules say. Those rules have never been activated before; there is no sense of precedence or established tradition when it comes to replacing a presidential nominee after the convention. That is why Kaine will be pressured to "voluntarily" withdraw.
  80. The front-page of the New York Daily News will say

    Clinton
    Not Able,
    Raising Kaine

    or something like that.

  81. @Cagey Beast
    What about someone who's an outsider but already known to the public? Someone like Jeff Bezos or Tim Cook?

    Replies: @Joe Sweet

    What about someone who’s an outsider but already known to the public? Someone like Jeff Bezos or Tim Cook?

    You just triggered the hell out of me.

  82. @Anon
    @eD

    http://atlantablackstar.com/2016/07/25/clintons-new-vp-criticized-for-past-discriminatory-crime-fighting-project-could-hurt-her-outreach-to-black-voters/

    He is on the NRA hit list, but...

    Top gun lobbying group, the National Rifle Association, surprisingly backed the controversial initiative, along with gun control advocates, Democrats and Republicans, Reuters reports. Now, Kaine is said to support legislation that would soften some mandatory minimum federal sentences and give judges more discretion in said sentencing. However, representatives from his office assert that he’s still a supporter of firm sentences for illegal gun possession.

    Vice president of Families Against Mandatory Minimums, Kevin Ring said Kaine will have to prove that he’s “evolved” on the issue of mandatory minimum sentences to gain the support of Black voters.

    “There are some that will be bothered,” Ring said. “There will be questions.”

    Kaine’s past support of Project Exile displays a similar “law and order” stance on crime to that of GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump. According to Reuters, Trump has called for the program’s revival and his campaign website called the effects of the initiative “tremendous.”

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Vice president of Families Against Mandatory Minimums, Kevin Ring said Kaine will have to prove that he’s “evolved” on the issue of mandatory minimum sentences to gain the support of Black voters.”

    Take out the word Families and rename it Single Black Mothers Against Mandatory Minimums. The vast majority of Blacks locked up in prison were not raised in traditional nuclear family households.

    Isn’t it funny that the Left likes to claim that 99.99% of Blacks are law abiding citizens who have no criminal record, yet when they campaign to get the Black vote they try to win them over by promising if they get elected they are going to be extremely soft on crime.
    Why are they pandering to the minuscule 0.1% of criminals in the African American community? Shouldn’t they be pandering to the 99.99% of Blacks who want to live in thug free neighborhoods? Shouldn’t the political message of being soft on crime turn off the 99.99% of African American voters who look down on ghetto hood culture?

  83. @The Man From K Street
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Albright is ineligible--foreign birth.

    The DNC rules are that the committee gets together, each state getting as many "votes" as it proportionally has in the entire delegate count. Superdelegates also get to vote. Kaine dies not get it by default. The RNC gives a single vote to each of three people from each state: the RNC committeeman, the RNC committeewoman, and the state party chair. They also have the option of reconvening the entire GOP convention.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    Albright is ineligible–foreign birth.

    That wasn’t my point. It’s just that, in the nature of the case, I couldn’t come up with another example of the kind of person I meant to suggest. I’m usually pretty spent by the time I get around to commenting on iSteve.

    Kaine dies not get it by default.

    I don’t think Kaine could be denied the candidacy if he declared that he wanted it, no matter what the rules say. Those rules have never been activated before; there is no sense of precedence or established tradition when it comes to replacing a presidential nominee after the convention. That is why Kaine will be pressured to “voluntarily” withdraw.

  84. Here’s a nice theory. Hillary was actually arrested. That’s why she walked competently out of the 9/11 memorial but head erect in arrogant pose: the defiant angry suspect in the moment. Next shot of her is waiting for the van, stiff. Hands together behind her back, cuffed!

    Getting into the van, her hands are released from cuffs between seconds 11 and 13 here in the video we’ve all seen, and you hear something clink on the ground.

    Then she’s able to move her hands, but she can’t walk as she could a few minutes earlier. Leg cuffs!

    Look how tough the guy is that comes around and releases her cuffs to move her into the van. He treats her like it’s a perp walk, not like she’s an old woman in need of careful handling. And the van probably isn’t her regular van (note lack of hospital stuff inside) but a copy that looks like it from the outside, prepared by the FBI in advance. This was planned well in advance. The arrest on 9/11 is symbolic, maybe she’s accused of conspiracy in 9/11. Also, they knew she would be there at that time, so they could plan the arrest.

    Going a bit further …

    Obama used to protect her from such things. After all, if she goes down, he’s at risk. But he seems to have lost a lot of influence lately. The humiliations at the Hangzhou G20 are shocking, and at the Working Dinner where Xi Jinping was speaking, all the presidents and kings seemed to be arrayed at a long table across the front of the room. I kept looking for Obama there and didn’t see him.

    So there’s a theory that seems plausible to me. I can’t take credit for it, someone else had the idea.

  85. @Intelligent Dasein
    I would think that once a vice presidential candidate has been named to the ticket, he would be the one to carry on if anything happened to the presidential nominee. That's kind of the purpose of the whole nominating process. Therefore it would have to be Kaine, or at least Kaine would get the right of first refusal, which the party bosses may "encourage" him to exercise. If Kaine withdraws after Hillary withdraws (quite likely in my opinion), then I imagine the DNC would simply pick their replacement candidate in a smokey backroom, and at that point all bets would be off.

    I rather doubt any of the names listed above would go for it. The purpose of the backroom meeting---which I suspect is even now being arranged---will be to figure out how to pay off all the quid pro quos negotiated through the Clinton Foundation. A candidate will be selected to that end. Another well-connected Neocon globalist and not necessarily someone who is a household name today. Perhaps Madeleine Albright (although she's rather old) or someone like that.

    Replies: @The Man From K Street, @TheBoom

    Biden polls well. He is an idiot but he would only have a little over a month to campaign so he won’t have a lot of time to stick his foot in his mouth. The press sure won’t call him on his BS and lying.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @TheBoom

    I think Biden would have a real shot. If the DNC called me up tomorrow morning and offered me $10 million to design a wining election strategy for them, I would yank Hillary and put Biden in.

    But I don think that's what they will do. The lawlessness of the Clintons and the Obama administration means that they are in too deep. They owe money to the wrong people, as it were.

  86. @Jefferson
    @TheBoom

    "Also,much of the vote for Clinton is a vote against Trump. She doesn’t even need to have a pulse for that. She just needs to not be Trump, something she can accomplish dead or alive."

    Can you imagine a dead Crooked Hildabeast corpse as POTUS. Her staff puts dark shades on her and drag her body around speaking for her like she is a ventriloquist dummy. It would be just like the film Weekend At Bernie's.
    https://youtu.be/YCTgcZ6ImsQ

    Weekend At Hillary's.

    Replies: @TheBoom

    Dixon Diaz had a great cartoon yesterday with Hillary mourners looking at her in coffin and one telling her that she didn’t care what the coroner says, we’re still voting for you.

  87. @TheBoom
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Biden polls well. He is an idiot but he would only have a little over a month to campaign so he won't have a lot of time to stick his foot in his mouth. The press sure won't call him on his BS and lying.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    I think Biden would have a real shot. If the DNC called me up tomorrow morning and offered me $10 million to design a wining election strategy for them, I would yank Hillary and put Biden in.

    But I don think that’s what they will do. The lawlessness of the Clintons and the Obama administration means that they are in too deep. They owe money to the wrong people, as it were.

  88. @European in America
    @TheBoom

    True, but the seizure and its consequent cover-up will turn off A LOT of undecideds. She's toast.

    Replies: @TheBoom

    After watching the propaganda coverage of her, I changed my opinion. There are a lot of uninformed voters, especially women, that don’t get the extent they are being lied to by the press. The visuals of Hillary and the subsequent attempt at coverup by TV “news” might open some eyes because the lying is so easy to see unlike something like the Clinton Foundation or Benghazi.

  89. @Anonymous
    Kaine and Biden don't have much traction with the Dem base, they haven't been campaigning, Biden comes across as a loose cannon, and Kaine would have that whole Southern white man thing (which practically makes him Satan to the Dem core). Neither one has any of the diversity that Dems increasingly need to pull off elections. All these female voters, the reason why Hillary has been doing as well as it has against Trump are synching up their ovaries for a historical first woman in office; they won't be too happy with another white male Dem candidate. And even though they won't say it, alot of those probably don't click with Michelle- too much blatant anti-white racism from that one.

    Who's left? Warren, Bernie? I don't see Warren as someone who could bring in the interest, particularly this late in the game. Even considering that some women would vote for her out of sexism. Given Bernie's (relatively) recent campaigning and recognition amongst the dems, if he could get a number of those Hillary supporters to switch back to him (and he has been playing the faithful dem in supporting Hillary despite the rigged DNC against him), I think he looks like the most likely one who might be able to pull off a candidate swap.

    Replies: @artichoke, @Daniel H, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @eD, @Brutusale

    Kaine is another centrist hiding his Marxist leanings. He spent time in Central America back in the 80s with a radical Jesuit, sucking up liberation theology theory straight from the tap.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/295229-tim-kaines-radical-roots

  90. @pyrrhus
    Definitely Pocahontas for President, Kaine for VP.....but only if Poca is willing to go all out on the campaign trail...

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Have any of you seen Warren debate? Seen her on the fly, without a script? She makes a Teleprompterless Obama look like Daniel Webster.

    She was lucky enough to get Scott Brown, the himbo’s himbo, for a Senate opponent. She made it a habit of doing pressers with other politicians, who’d constantly step in to help her over her rough patches.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/11/08/elizabeth-warren-after-first-news-conference-acknowledges-she-trying-for-more-discretion/YLfFZFDz7VdCxjTrIND3hP/story.html

    Trump would be picking his teeth with her bones when the debate was over.

  91. @IA
    @JerryC

    Is this from a book, movie, or game?

    Replies: @Brutusale

  92. @Steve Sailer
    @JL

    Yeah, I've been reading up on the current interim DNC chairwoman, Donna Brazile. She's kind of an Oprah-like black lady with a pretty sharp wit who has been around forever in Democratic campaigns. She was briefly interim DNC chair before, in-between Tim Kaine and Debby Wasserman-Schultz.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Heh…Oprah-like black lady. I see what you did there!

    She’ll mesh well with Cankles and Huma.

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