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From Lifesite News:

BREAKING: Judge rules dad will have say in gender ‘transition’ of 7-year-old

DALLAS, Texas, October 24, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) – The judge presiding over the case of Jeffrey Younger, the father who is trying to protect his seven-year-old son, J*, from chemical castration via a gender “transition,” ruled today that the parents will have joint conservatorship over J*, which includes making joint medical decisions for the child.

Judge Kim Cooks of the 255th district also put a gag order on both parents so that they cannot speak to the press about the case and decided that the father is not required to pay attorney fees. The judge’s decision means that the Save J* website will have to be shut down.

*I’m editing out the little boy’s name to do my bit to reduce the chances that he won’t have to go through life as, “Oh, wow, I remember that name, weren’t you the kid whose mom…”

The New York Times continues to do its part by never ever yet mentioning this story, as part of its commitment to protecting its readers from interesting but off-Narrative news.

 
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  1. Feel terrible for the kid. He obviously already had some really serious emotional and family problems and then his parents travesty of a divorce lawsuit becomes a viral internet meme.

    • Agree: Ash Williams
    • Replies: @Dr. X
    @Hockamaw

    Yup. The kid is gonna be screwed up even if he mother doesn't chemically castrate him at age seven. The very fact that she was willing to go to court to do so indicates that she is so fucked up there's no way the kid can possibly turn out normal...

    Replies: @haha, @Prester John

    , @Anon
    @Hockamaw

    He does not have "really serious emotional problems". In the videos I've seen posted by his dad and from descriptions of those around him, he sounds like a perfectly normal little boy. The mom is the one with the real emotional problems and she's effing up the kid.

    She should have her pediatrician license revoked.

    Our schools' sex ed is completely effed up. In my kid's high school sex ed they basically tell the kids if you are depressed and lonely, don't like to do all the things kids of your gender like to do, like if you are a girl who prefers to do outdoorsy stuff instead of wearing makeup and talking about boys all day, you could be gay or transgender! No wonder so many SJWs are now declaring themselves gay or trans.

    The most effed up thing is, in the next chapter they tell the kids you should defy gender stereotype, just because you're a girl doesn't mean you have to like all the things girls like, you can be outdoorsy, like sports...So basically they tell our kids they should defy gender stereotype, then the minute they do, they tell them you should become another gender. Talk about F up!

    These progressivetards are so dumb they can't even see the cognitive dissonance of what they are preaching, or maybe they could but this is just an agenda to turn all our kids gay or transgender. Lots of money to be made now that Obama's made it mandatory for insurance to cover sex change therapy and "treatment".

    Replies: @Counterinsurgency

  2. Good news for this young boy and his father. And for the other boy (the twin).

    The gag order is really unfortunate and hopefully some smart culture warriors can figure out a way to capitalize on the case even without the dad’s firsthand accounts.

    The fact that “the judge got it right in the end” is again, WONDERFUL for this boy.

    But it also has the effect of lulling everyone back to sleep. The system is strengthened, rather than pushed to breaking.

    Someone with time on their hands should figure out a way to monitor the court system for copycat cases. Now that this concept is out there, it’s going to keep happening.

    I predict there will be another one of these in a more liberal state within the next year, where the father will lose. There may even be a case setup specifically by activists to get a favorable ruling, like Rosa Parks.

    • Agree: BB753
  3. I’m editing out the little boy’s name

    How dare you not affirm his mother’s craziness and not call him a girl?!

    In all seriousness you should censor his name from your post from two days ago as well.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @ScarletNumber


    In all seriousness you should censor his name from your post from two days ago as well.
     
    Too late. The boy's name is on 19th-century wanted posters.

    I once worked with a blue-collar teenager named Andrew Johnson, who didn't look like he knew very much. But he knew his namesake had been impeached.
  4. While the iron is hot-ish, red state legislatures must pass bills that specifically prohibit gender-altering procedures without the express written consent of both parents. Call it James’ law.

    On the first thread, commenters suggested Trump add hormone-blockers to DEA schedule 1. Absolutely brilliant idea, which he won’t bother to do. Ideally reschedule marijuana at the same time, for maximum chaos and effect.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @Not My Economy


    On the first thread, commenters suggested Trump add hormone-blockers to DEA schedule 1. Absolutely brilliant idea, which he won’t bother to do.
     
    Careful, they'll be adding them to the water supply instead.
    , @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    @Not My Economy

    How about you just make it illegal to sterilize a minor.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

    , @Jack Henson
    @Not My Economy

    Estrogen isn't a schedule drug, but testosterone and anabolic steroids are.

    Kind of a funny oversight, ain't it?

    Replies: @Joe Schmoe

  5. Ted Cruz quoted in the media today, Oct. 24:

    Ted Cruz of Texas called the child “a pawn in a left-wing political agenda” (Wash. Post)

    Ted Cruz demands Texas act to protect 7-year-old in ‘horrifying’ gender transition battle

    Rand Paul this afternoon EDT (Oct. 24):

    We don’t let kids drink alcohol til 21. People want to move smoking age to 21. But we will allow a 7 year old to have his life and body altered like this? This is child abuse and the state should side with the father who is trying to protect the child

    [MORE]

    – One America News host Liz Wheeler said the court-mandated castration was “HEARTBREAKING,” one day earlier (Oct. 23, 6 PM EDT).

    Governor Abbott tweeted that his people were looking into it at 8 PM EDT, Oct. 23.

    Steve Sailer first posted on the case (late in the day?) on Oct. 22 (his third of three posts dated Oct. 22).

    • Replies: @Hail
    @Hail

    Previous posts on the case at iSteve:

    - A Statement from Jeff Younger (Oct 23) -- apparently an email to Steve from the father in the case;

    - Father Can't Stop His Ex-Wife from Giving Their Son Puberty Blockers (Oct. 22).

    _______

    The early mentions of the case are at pro-Life, Christian-Right-oriented LifeSiteNews, with a series of multiple articles a day articles starting Oct. 15, mainly credited to a Madeleine Jacob. The earliest in the current cycle is a Sept. 27 article ("‘Mommy says I’m a girl’: Dad fights to save 7-year-old son from gender ‘transition.’")

    Another early appearance one can find is an Oct. 2 article by Andrea Morris of Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN), "TX Dad Faces Final Court Battle That Could Determine if His 7-Year-Old Son Becomes a Girl," but that one cites LifeSiteNews' Sept. 27 report and retells its contents.


    Who Produces LifeSiteNews?

    The service was originally started by Campaign Life Coalition (CLC), a Canadian national pro-life organization headquartered in Toronto, Canada
     

    Oh, Canada.
  6. What I was up to at 7 years of age? Vague memories of the Berlin Wall coming down. Seeking earnestly to avoid attending 2nd grade. Dreams of becoming Bart Simpson. Anticipating the Apple Watch™ with Warren Beaty Dick Tracy™ toys.

    Notably not seeking ways to rid myself of masculine external genitalia. Nor anticipating how I would feel post-puberty. There is no way I could have imagined what 16 year-old me would be like, anymore than the Wolfman knows what waits for him just before a full moon appears in the sky.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
    @guest


    What I was up to at 7 years of age?
     
    • Salt pills (which were great, because we were allowed cordial to wash them down);
    • abo kids as really close mates;
    • sitting in the big freezers at AMSCOL (which my Dad ran) drinking orange juice and eating chocolate.
    • Mum painting a tiki on Dad's Mini - which was a racing car called 'Little Tutae' (Little Shit, in Maori) that he raced at the local speedway for laughs.
    • Saw 'Soldier Blue' and 'A Man Called Horse' at the Memorial Club, and 'Fists of Fury' (a new release) at the cinema - which didn't have a roof: it opened to the sky (which made it awesome when the power went out). "Soldier Blue" is an amazing movie.
    • Demis Roussos, Nana Mouskouri and Bay City Rollers were on the juke box constantly;
    • Dad buying a double-decker bus from a beef station for $50, and driving it back (the station owners had an idea they could use them for stock transport - neglecting to think about how to get cattle upstairs);
    • helping Dad rip out all the seats in the bus (we decked it out with beds etc);
    • Paddlefoot - the part-lab mutt that was our best mate;
    • Danny Kaye records; "How and Why Wonder Books"; "Tell Me Why" (and "More Tell Me Why") and Linguaphone German;
    • Singing "My Name is Dr Ironbeard" in class.


    The early 70s in the godforsaken middle of Australia (Tennant Creek, to be precise) were absolutely awesome if you were 7 at the time. It's the period I look back on most fondly.

    Replies: @Joe Schmoe, @dfordoom

  7. Anon[273] • Disclaimer says:

    Thank goodness. There’s a lot of fucked up things going on right now. But if this court was going to follow through on the facilitation of the chemical castration of this kid then it was going to be the specific “The Republic is conclusively over” moment for me.

  8. Neo-Liberal Global Homo in action…….And this is what the anti-commie crusade was all about…Vietnam and Thailand are US Homo Couples Gay Vacation Destinations In 2019……The 60 thousand names on the Vietnam War Memorial, they died for Global Homo….This is the proper context for understanding what happened to this 7 year old boy in Texas…….

    Christian Russia has thousands of nukes aimed at SATANIC DEGENERATE AMERICA….Christian Russia is quite capable of resisting NEOLIBERAL GLOBAL HOMO….

  9. Rand Paul, knocking it out of the park again. Now if we could just get a Joy Behar neighbor to inflict five broken ribs, lung contusions and bruises, through that neighbor’s high-speed impact on Joy Behar as Joy Behar goes about her business, we could all unconsciously smile for at least a full 24 hours, or maybe 168.

  10. @Hockamaw
    Feel terrible for the kid. He obviously already had some really serious emotional and family problems and then his parents travesty of a divorce lawsuit becomes a viral internet meme.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @Anon

    Yup. The kid is gonna be screwed up even if he mother doesn’t chemically castrate him at age seven. The very fact that she was willing to go to court to do so indicates that she is so fucked up there’s no way the kid can possibly turn out normal…

    • Replies: @haha
    @Dr. X

    Well, it is not just the mother who is messed up. How on earth can a court of law even entertain a request for the chemical castration of a young child? What were those jury members smoking? No one, repeat no one, has any ethical right to mess up with a young child's body. And shame on the doctors and medical bodies that haven't denounced "transitioning" as utter nonsense. The tiny minority of adults (not children) who have problems with their sexual identity may be helped with surgery or chemicals. But a man can no more become a woman than he can a bird. Let the idiot leftists transition to being birds and let them fly off the edge of a high cliff en masse.

    , @Prester John
    @Dr. X

    And what is most frightening is that the numbers of people out there who actually SUPPORT this woman are legion!!!

    "Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world" ("The Second Coming--William Butler Yeats)

  11. @Hail
    - Ted Cruz quoted in the media today, Oct. 24:

    Ted Cruz of Texas called the child “a pawn in a left-wing political agenda” (Wash. Post)
     

    Ted Cruz demands Texas act to protect 7-year-old in ‘horrifying’ gender transition battle
     
    - Rand Paul this afternoon EDT (Oct. 24):

    We don’t let kids drink alcohol til 21. People want to move smoking age to 21. But we will allow a 7 year old to have his life and body altered like this? This is child abuse and the state should side with the father who is trying to protect the child
     


    https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1187431933229391872

    - One America News host Liz Wheeler said the court-mandated castration was "HEARTBREAKING," one day earlier (Oct. 23, 6 PM EDT).

    - Governor Abbott tweeted that his people were looking into it at 8 PM EDT, Oct. 23.

    - Steve Sailer first posted on the case (late in the day?) on Oct. 22 (his third of three posts dated Oct. 22).

    Replies: @Hail

    Previous posts on the case at iSteve:

    A Statement from Jeff Younger (Oct 23) — apparently an email to Steve from the father in the case;

    Father Can’t Stop His Ex-Wife from Giving Their Son Puberty Blockers (Oct. 22).

    _______

    The early mentions of the case are at pro-Life, Christian-Right-oriented LifeSiteNews, with a series of multiple articles a day articles starting Oct. 15, mainly credited to a Madeleine Jacob. The earliest in the current cycle is a Sept. 27 article (“‘Mommy says I’m a girl’: Dad fights to save 7-year-old son from gender ‘transition.’”)

    Another early appearance one can find is an Oct. 2 article by Andrea Morris of Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN), “TX Dad Faces Final Court Battle That Could Determine if His 7-Year-Old Son Becomes a Girl,” but that one cites LifeSiteNews’ Sept. 27 report and retells its contents.

    Who Produces LifeSiteNews?

    The service was originally started by Campaign Life Coalition (CLC), a Canadian national pro-life organization headquartered in Toronto, Canada

    Oh, Canada.

  12. @Not My Economy
    While the iron is hot-ish, red state legislatures must pass bills that specifically prohibit gender-altering procedures without the express written consent of both parents. Call it James' law.

    On the first thread, commenters suggested Trump add hormone-blockers to DEA schedule 1. Absolutely brilliant idea, which he won't bother to do. Ideally reschedule marijuana at the same time, for maximum chaos and effect.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @TheMediumIsTheMassage, @Jack Henson

    On the first thread, commenters suggested Trump add hormone-blockers to DEA schedule 1. Absolutely brilliant idea, which he won’t bother to do.

    Careful, they’ll be adding them to the water supply instead.

  13. So what now? Only cut off one nut?

  14. Outlawing this sort of shit sounds like a great idea for election year state legislative sessions, every bit as close to earl November as possible.

    Of course it’s understandable that the New York Times wouldn’t mention it. They had to publish eight more Emmett Till Most Important Murder Ever (TM) stories, so they didn’t have room. Besides, not reporting on it now means they will be allowed to call it #FakeNews when it comes up during next year’s election.

  15. How in the hell did they find these jurors that ruled for the mom? Especially in Texas of all places.
    Did they realize what they were doing or were the full implications of their verdict obscured from them?

    • Replies: @anon
    @gregor

    The Courts send out the Jury Service notices.
    A person can live at the same address all his life and never be called.
    Another bloke gets called 6 times and votes for TPTB every time.
    It's corrupt, like everything else.

    , @Alden
    @gregor

    It was 11 jurors voted for the Mom and just 1 for the Dad. Obviously they believed the Mom’s witnesses.

  16. It should be noted that Judge Kim Cooks is an African-American woman.

    She was right to gag both parents.

    • Disagree: RadicalCenter
  17. This issue is as strong a one for the GOP as immigration for 2020. If they get Trump on board with it, they will keep the white house, gain in the senate and house.

    • Replies: @Hail
    @Paul Rise


    If they get Trump on board
     
    Tweetman is busy with other matters and did not comment on the castration controversy despite Senators Cruz and Paul getting in the ring. His top tweet of the day is:

    Where is the Whistleblower, and why did he or she write such a fictitious and incorrect account of my phone call with the Ukrainian President?
     
    Besides this and others like it, and many retweets to the same effect, at midday Oct. 24 we had this:

    I really enjoyed my conversation with General @MazloumAbdi [Syrian Defense Forces General Commander]. He appreciates what we have done, and I appreciate what the Kurds have done. Perhaps it is time for the Kurds to start heading to the Oil Region!
     
    About midday on Oct. 23, the same-old tweetlashing:

    The Never Trumper Republicans, though on respirators with not many left, are in certain ways worse and more dangerous for our Country than the Do Nothing Democrats. Watch out for them, they are human scum!
     
    Meanwhile, no executive order banning anchor-baby citizenship, no wall, etc.
  18. I have kids, and they come up with plenty of stupid ideas which I just ignore. If they push it too far, they get an appropriate consequence. They also get a frank lecture on their stupid idea. And yes, I use the phrase ‘stupid idea’. I get good results just telling them the truth that their ideas or feelings are stupid, and they will continue to earn themselves punishments from me and others if they persist with the nonsense.

    It is beyond comprehension why people feel obligated to seriously entertain the bs kids come up with. They will grow out of it, people, if you just let them. Parents are supposed to be a reality check for kids, not mental illness enablers, sheesh. Parents, teachers, doctors, psychologists, should not be affirming, supporting, encouraging, etc., mental illness nor its manifestations.

  19. Hallelujah! This is fantastic, and credit should be given to 4Chan, Steve here at UNZ, and all the alternative media selections who made noise about this issue. The Alt Right can get shit done.

    Saying “shame on the mainstream media for never mentioning this yet making a breaking news story out of every little black girl who claims some white boys cut her hair” is too obvious, repetitive, and useless at this point. So instead I’ll say this: send every mainstream media executive to prison for crimes against humanity. Blood libel against an entire race of people is enough grounds.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    Zerohedge and Breitbart both went apeshit on it. I'm sure that helped. Thank God for the judge. The jury should go hang themselves.

  20. @Not My Economy
    While the iron is hot-ish, red state legislatures must pass bills that specifically prohibit gender-altering procedures without the express written consent of both parents. Call it James' law.

    On the first thread, commenters suggested Trump add hormone-blockers to DEA schedule 1. Absolutely brilliant idea, which he won't bother to do. Ideally reschedule marijuana at the same time, for maximum chaos and effect.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @TheMediumIsTheMassage, @Jack Henson

    How about you just make it illegal to sterilize a minor.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    Some minors have enough of a rap sheet it's justified, bro.

  21. @ScarletNumber

    I’m editing out the little boy’s name
     
    How dare you not affirm his mother's craziness and not call him a girl?!

    In all seriousness you should censor his name from your post from two days ago as well.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    In all seriousness you should censor his name from your post from two days ago as well.

    Too late. The boy’s name is on 19th-century wanted posters.

    I once worked with a blue-collar teenager named Andrew Johnson, who didn’t look like he knew very much. But he knew his namesake had been impeached.

  22. Anon[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hockamaw
    Feel terrible for the kid. He obviously already had some really serious emotional and family problems and then his parents travesty of a divorce lawsuit becomes a viral internet meme.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @Anon

    He does not have “really serious emotional problems”. In the videos I’ve seen posted by his dad and from descriptions of those around him, he sounds like a perfectly normal little boy. The mom is the one with the real emotional problems and she’s effing up the kid.

    She should have her pediatrician license revoked.

    Our schools’ sex ed is completely effed up. In my kid’s high school sex ed they basically tell the kids if you are depressed and lonely, don’t like to do all the things kids of your gender like to do, like if you are a girl who prefers to do outdoorsy stuff instead of wearing makeup and talking about boys all day, you could be gay or transgender! No wonder so many SJWs are now declaring themselves gay or trans.

    The most effed up thing is, in the next chapter they tell the kids you should defy gender stereotype, just because you’re a girl doesn’t mean you have to like all the things girls like, you can be outdoorsy, like sports…So basically they tell our kids they should defy gender stereotype, then the minute they do, they tell them you should become another gender. Talk about F up!

    These progressivetards are so dumb they can’t even see the cognitive dissonance of what they are preaching, or maybe they could but this is just an agenda to turn all our kids gay or transgender. Lots of money to be made now that Obama’s made it mandatory for insurance to cover sex change therapy and “treatment”.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
    @Anon


    These progressivetards are so dumb they can’t even see the cognitive dissonance of what they are preaching, or maybe they could but this is just an agenda to turn all our kids gay or transgender.
     
    With reference to the public schools:
    Once upon a time there was a psychologist who conducted experiments on rats. Mazes coupled with electric shock, deadfalls, drowning, starvation. Didn't learn much, but he did kill a lot of rats, and so his funding continued.

    Counterinsurgency
  23. Consider that the judge had to overrule the jury. The jury – THE JURY – voted in favor of a type of child abuse unheard-of by sane people. The judge was forced to overrule. Plus there’s this: almost all politicians and almost all MSM want people like those jury members to be the only people allowed to vote.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Charles


    Consider that the judge had to overrule the jury. The jury – THE JURY – voted in favor of a type of child abuse unheard-of by sane people. The judge was forced to overrule. Plus there’s this: almost all politicians and almost all MSM want people like those jury members to be the only people allowed to vote.
     
    The members of the jury were probably no dumber than the average person. The problem with juries is that they get faced with "scientific" evidence from "expert witnesses" and there's no way the average person can tell how much is really scientific and how much is pure BS. And a lawyer can find an "expert witness" to testify to just about anything, given the enormous numbers of people out there with BS academic credentials in pseudosciences like psychiatry, gender studies, etc.

    The average person just never gets exposed to the idea that maybe all these experts are the same kinds of people who were peddling patent medicines a century ago. Most people will feel too intimidated to question the pronouncements of these pseudoscientists.

    Replies: @Charles

    , @Leo D
    @Charles

    The only issue the jury decided was custody, which they decided in favor of the mother...why?...who the hell knows...

    The judge ruled on everything else. Not sure if 'joint conservatorship' means joint custody, in the commonly known physical sense. Words have meaning, especially in legal proceedings. If he doesn't get joint physical custody, the kid is screwed...well, the kid is already likely screwed. The only way to save the kid is to get him away from [not] mom.

    [not] - remember, 'mom' is not blood related to the kid...donor egg and dad's sperm...

    Replies: @Alden

  24. @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    Hallelujah! This is fantastic, and credit should be given to 4Chan, Steve here at UNZ, and all the alternative media selections who made noise about this issue. The Alt Right can get shit done.

    Saying "shame on the mainstream media for never mentioning this yet making a breaking news story out of every little black girl who claims some white boys cut her hair" is too obvious, repetitive, and useless at this point. So instead I'll say this: send every mainstream media executive to prison for crimes against humanity. Blood libel against an entire race of people is enough grounds.

    Replies: @Anon

    Zerohedge and Breitbart both went apeshit on it. I’m sure that helped. Thank God for the judge. The jury should go hang themselves.

  25. @Paul Rise
    This issue is as strong a one for the GOP as immigration for 2020. If they get Trump on board with it, they will keep the white house, gain in the senate and house.

    Replies: @Hail

    If they get Trump on board

    Tweetman is busy with other matters and did not comment on the castration controversy despite Senators Cruz and Paul getting in the ring. His top tweet of the day is:

    Where is the Whistleblower, and why did he or she write such a fictitious and incorrect account of my phone call with the Ukrainian President?

    Besides this and others like it, and many retweets to the same effect, at midday Oct. 24 we had this:

    [MORE]

    I really enjoyed my conversation with General @MazloumAbdi [Syrian Defense Forces General Commander]. He appreciates what we have done, and I appreciate what the Kurds have done. Perhaps it is time for the Kurds to start heading to the Oil Region!

    About midday on Oct. 23, the same-old tweetlashing:

    The Never Trumper Republicans, though on respirators with not many left, are in certain ways worse and more dangerous for our Country than the Do Nothing Democrats. Watch out for them, they are human scum!

    Meanwhile, no executive order banning anchor-baby citizenship, no wall, etc.

  26. Sounds like all the bs was fed into the kid’s head by the mother.

  27. DALLAS, Texas, October 24, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) – The judge presiding over the case of Jeffrey Younger, the father who is trying to protect his seven-year-old son, J*, from chemical castration via a gender “transition,” ruled today that the parents will have joint conservatorship over J*, which includes making joint medical decisions for the child.

    The mother has already demonstrated that she should have exactly NO say-so in making any decision for the child. A sane court in a sane society would have deemed her to be an unfit mother and awarded sole custody to the father.

  28. Mirabile dictu, a brain
    In a head on a bench not insane!
    Long inured to the stench
    Of the Idiot Bench,
    Sweet hyssop comes, salving my pain.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  29. The judge’s decision means that the Save J* website will have to be shut down.

    Well thank god for that. The thing that has bothered me most about this case is the possibility that a seven year-old child might be chemically castrated because reasons. But the thing that has bothered me second-most is his father’s readiness to illustrate discussions of his child’s sexuality with pictures of his child joined to his child’s name. Puberty blockers will mess up normal development, but so will eminently googleable pictures and discussions of your trans seven year-old self.

    • Replies: @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    @eugyppius

    He had no choice. Images speak a thousand words and seeing the smiling little boy and naming him produced a much more visceral psychological effect that led to subsequent coverage and the judge saving him. The Left understands the power of images and names, hence why they repeat certain things over and over and show you similar images and scenes over and over. They understand storytelling and they understand marketing. It's about time the Alt Right or whatever you want to call it understood those things.

    Replies: @eugyppius

    , @Hail
    @eugyppius


    the thing that has bothered me second-most is his father’s readiness to illustrate discussions of his child’s sexuality with pictures of his child joined to his child’s name
     
    Agreed, but we should recall that he didn't do so immediately, but only after several years and only as the castrationist Sword of Damocles loomed overhead, swinging back and forth. He got desperate and escalated, seemingly successfully for now.
    , @Alden
    @eugyppius

    Adding to the insanity there are rumors Dad was discharged from the Marines because of homosexuality. I have no idea if that’s true.

    The boy was supposed to be 3 in that video.

    Luckily child services are investigating.

    The father of course can file new allegations against crazy lady any time he wishes. He probably will.

  30. @eugyppius

    The judge’s decision means that the Save J* website will have to be shut down.
     
    Well thank god for that. The thing that has bothered me most about this case is the possibility that a seven year-old child might be chemically castrated because reasons. But the thing that has bothered me second-most is his father's readiness to illustrate discussions of his child's sexuality with pictures of his child joined to his child's name. Puberty blockers will mess up normal development, but so will eminently googleable pictures and discussions of your trans seven year-old self.

    Replies: @TheMediumIsTheMassage, @Hail, @Alden

    He had no choice. Images speak a thousand words and seeing the smiling little boy and naming him produced a much more visceral psychological effect that led to subsequent coverage and the judge saving him. The Left understands the power of images and names, hence why they repeat certain things over and over and show you similar images and scenes over and over. They understand storytelling and they understand marketing. It’s about time the Alt Right or whatever you want to call it understood those things.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave, TWS
    • Replies: @eugyppius
    @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    In an ideal world, ten years from now, this kid will be in his later teens, hitting the gym, hitting on girls, and because of his (at best) clueless father and (at best) deranged mother there will be eminently googleable pictures of him as a seven year-old wearing a dress all over the internet.

    There is a lot his father could've done to minimize this risk, beginning with using initials or an alias instead of his son's actual name, posting an audio file instead of a video of the conversation with his kid, and in general making his blog much less of a family photo album.

    Jeff Younger probably "had no choice" but to seek publicity, I get that. But in seeking it he has shown not a hint of caution and that's terrible. His son's first name is in the URL of the blog and on the t-shirts he's selling. Just imagine when this kid's peers get ahold of one of those.

    Replies: @Pericles

  31. The judge didn’t really overrule the jury. The jury decided only on the technical merits of the case, finding that Mr. Younger violated the custody order, in which he had foolishly signed away his parental rights regarding medical decisions.

    Then, the judge made a “best interests of the child” determination that the father should have joint conservatorship, including for medical decisions, and amended the order to make it so.

    This is why in previous comments I said that the jury decision was far from the final word on this. Child custody is a fluid concept out of necessity. Circumstances can change quickly, and at a certain point the child himself can overrule the order, so it isn’t well-suited to jury trials.

    The issue of whether physically altering pre-pubescent children in service to trans ideology is permissible will not be decided in family court, and it would take an exceptionally stupid judge to try to do that. Judge Cooks wisely chose to punt on the issue.

    • Replies: @TWS
    @Bill P

    Most people think of, 'broken arm', or 'measles' when they think of medical decisions. Not, 'let's cut off his cock and balls then stuff him in a dress'.

  32. @eugyppius

    The judge’s decision means that the Save J* website will have to be shut down.
     
    Well thank god for that. The thing that has bothered me most about this case is the possibility that a seven year-old child might be chemically castrated because reasons. But the thing that has bothered me second-most is his father's readiness to illustrate discussions of his child's sexuality with pictures of his child joined to his child's name. Puberty blockers will mess up normal development, but so will eminently googleable pictures and discussions of your trans seven year-old self.

    Replies: @TheMediumIsTheMassage, @Hail, @Alden

    the thing that has bothered me second-most is his father’s readiness to illustrate discussions of his child’s sexuality with pictures of his child joined to his child’s name

    Agreed, but we should recall that he didn’t do so immediately, but only after several years and only as the castrationist Sword of Damocles loomed overhead, swinging back and forth. He got desperate and escalated, seemingly successfully for now.

  33. TIMEOUT

    A Texas JURY voted 11 to 1 to grant sole custody to a parent who was castrating their son against the wishes of the other parent?

    I’m having trouble counting up all improbabilities here which, since they occur in conjunction, must be multiplied (more or less) to produce a combined, exponentially disappearing probability.

    I’m not a big believer in the simulation theory of reality, but, given the fact that no one else has mentioned this even in an iSteve comment thread (not to mention Steve didn’t bring it up) has me seriously wondering.

    Of course, there is another possibility here. Trial by jury is a thorn in the side of any would-be tyranny — jury nullification is a penultimate palladium of liberty, the ultimate being an armed citizenry — something else that brings Texas to mind. I’ve been noticing a pattern of efforts to get conservatives to identify with 14th Amendment interpretations that permit Federal interventions in the laboratory of the states. Stuff like this “jury case” is so weird and in a sense optimal I’m not entirely convinced this wasn’t somehow a set up.

    • Replies: @Hail
    @James Bowery


    TIMEOUT

    A Texas JURY voted 11 to 1 to grant sole custody to a parent who was castrating their son against the wishes of the other parent?
     

    It was in Dallas County (acc. to court documents).

    Presidential voting for Dallas County, Texas:

    Year: REP-DEM
    2016: 34-60
    2012: 42-57
    2008: 42-57
    2004: 50-49
    2000: 53-45

    That slide in 2016 from 42-->34 (-8) is faster than the grim march of demographic change would have predicted (previously, 53-->42 took four cycles, or -3 per cycle). So a relatively anti-Trump R voter base.

    ___________

    BTW -- Here is a email from Dr. Anne to the father that caught my eye. It was entered into evidence at the trial. Recall that 'Luna' is the name Dr. Anne uses for the boy she wants castrated:


    On M0n. Aug 20, 2018 at 7:16 PM Anne Georgulas [email] wrote:

    Jeff,

    Fortnight is not allowed at my house, so please don't show Jude or Luna Fortnight while on FaceTime.

    I also request you stop bullying Luna on FaceTime. When you ask her if everyone at school liked her haircut, you probably noticed, she didn't answer. She herself does not like her haircut. Please stop making her feel worse about herself than you already have.

    Anne
     

    This is a sad story.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Pericles

    , @guest
    @James Bowery

    Juries don't need no 14th amendment. Their authority to ignore the law is inherent, you might say. Certainly doing so predates the Magical Expanding Clause.

    You know, if they just interpreted the law like a judge, we wouldn't have juries. We'd just use judges. Because they're the supposed experts. And if they don't know anything, juries usually don't either, because most people are idiots.

    We don't go for that, as a civilization. Because we know it wouldn't be long before judges were swinging from trees, whether or not they followed the law.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @James Bowery, @James Bowery

    , @Alden
    @James Bowery

    I wrote it was an 11 to 1 decision in one of the discussions. Expert witnesses will say anything. If they and an attorney can convince the jury black is white and the sun is the moon, so be it.

  34. @gregor
    How in the hell did they find these jurors that ruled for the mom? Especially in Texas of all places.
    Did they realize what they were doing or were the full implications of their verdict obscured from them?

    Replies: @anon, @Alden

    The Courts send out the Jury Service notices.
    A person can live at the same address all his life and never be called.
    Another bloke gets called 6 times and votes for TPTB every time.
    It’s corrupt, like everything else.

  35. @Not My Economy
    While the iron is hot-ish, red state legislatures must pass bills that specifically prohibit gender-altering procedures without the express written consent of both parents. Call it James' law.

    On the first thread, commenters suggested Trump add hormone-blockers to DEA schedule 1. Absolutely brilliant idea, which he won't bother to do. Ideally reschedule marijuana at the same time, for maximum chaos and effect.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @TheMediumIsTheMassage, @Jack Henson

    Estrogen isn’t a schedule drug, but testosterone and anabolic steroids are.

    Kind of a funny oversight, ain’t it?

    • Replies: @Joe Schmoe
    @Jack Henson


    Estrogen isn’t a schedule drug, but testosterone and anabolic steroids are.

    Kind of a funny oversight, ain’t it?

     

    Estrogen is a known carcinogen and actually more dangerous than testosterone.

    But estrogen is used in the pill and makes young women sexually available for lots of free sex with cads and blackguards, so... any ill effects will be largely ignored and distanced from it.

    Replies: @Jack Henson, @Alden

  36. @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    @eugyppius

    He had no choice. Images speak a thousand words and seeing the smiling little boy and naming him produced a much more visceral psychological effect that led to subsequent coverage and the judge saving him. The Left understands the power of images and names, hence why they repeat certain things over and over and show you similar images and scenes over and over. They understand storytelling and they understand marketing. It's about time the Alt Right or whatever you want to call it understood those things.

    Replies: @eugyppius

    In an ideal world, ten years from now, this kid will be in his later teens, hitting the gym, hitting on girls, and because of his (at best) clueless father and (at best) deranged mother there will be eminently googleable pictures of him as a seven year-old wearing a dress all over the internet.

    There is a lot his father could’ve done to minimize this risk, beginning with using initials or an alias instead of his son’s actual name, posting an audio file instead of a video of the conversation with his kid, and in general making his blog much less of a family photo album.

    Jeff Younger probably “had no choice” but to seek publicity, I get that. But in seeking it he has shown not a hint of caution and that’s terrible. His son’s first name is in the URL of the blog and on the t-shirts he’s selling. Just imagine when this kid’s peers get ahold of one of those.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @eugyppius

    In Europe we have GDPR and the 'Right to be forgotten'. Would actually work well in this case, I think.

    Another option is for the boy to change his name (again).

  37. @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    @Not My Economy

    How about you just make it illegal to sterilize a minor.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

    Some minors have enough of a rap sheet it’s justified, bro.

  38. Mom’s in for a world of hurt when the boy loses his virginity in a decade or two.

  39. @James Bowery
    TIMEOUT

    A Texas JURY voted 11 to 1 to grant sole custody to a parent who was castrating their son against the wishes of the other parent?

    I'm having trouble counting up all improbabilities here which, since they occur in conjunction, must be multiplied (more or less) to produce a combined, exponentially disappearing probability.

    I'm not a big believer in the simulation theory of reality, but, given the fact that no one else has mentioned this even in an iSteve comment thread (not to mention Steve didn't bring it up) has me seriously wondering.

    Of course, there is another possibility here. Trial by jury is a thorn in the side of any would-be tyranny -- jury nullification is a penultimate palladium of liberty, the ultimate being an armed citizenry -- something else that brings Texas to mind. I've been noticing a pattern of efforts to get conservatives to identify with 14th Amendment interpretations that permit Federal interventions in the laboratory of the states. Stuff like this "jury case" is so weird and in a sense optimal I'm not entirely convinced this wasn't somehow a set up.

    Replies: @Hail, @guest, @Alden

    TIMEOUT

    A Texas JURY voted 11 to 1 to grant sole custody to a parent who was castrating their son against the wishes of the other parent?

    It was in Dallas County (acc. to court documents).

    Presidential voting for Dallas County, Texas:

    Year: REP-DEM
    2016: 34-60
    2012: 42-57
    2008: 42-57
    2004: 50-49
    2000: 53-45

    That slide in 2016 from 42–>34 (-8) is faster than the grim march of demographic change would have predicted (previously, 53–>42 took four cycles, or -3 per cycle). So a relatively anti-Trump R voter base.

    ___________

    BTW — Here is a email from Dr. Anne to the father that caught my eye. It was entered into evidence at the trial. Recall that ‘Luna’ is the name Dr. Anne uses for the boy she wants castrated:

    On M0n. Aug 20, 2018 at 7:16 PM Anne Georgulas [email] wrote:

    Jeff,

    Fortnight is not allowed at my house, so please don’t show Jude or Luna Fortnight while on FaceTime.

    I also request you stop bullying Luna on FaceTime. When you ask her if everyone at school liked her haircut, you probably noticed, she didn’t answer. She herself does not like her haircut. Please stop making her feel worse about herself than you already have.

    Anne

    This is a sad story.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Hail


    That slide in 2016 from 42–>34 (-8) is faster than the grim march of demographic change would have predicted (previously, 53–>42 took four cycles, or -3 per cycle). So a relatively anti-Trump R voter base.
     
    Bush was a fellow citizen and a known entity, so there's a distortion baked into this analysis. Romney and Trump are Northeasterners; McCain's poor showing is what needs to be explained.

    Replies: @Hail, @FPD72

    , @Pericles
    @Hail


    This is a sad story.

     

    Kramer vs Kramer is a sad story. I'd say this is an extremely creepy story.
  40. @James Bowery
    TIMEOUT

    A Texas JURY voted 11 to 1 to grant sole custody to a parent who was castrating their son against the wishes of the other parent?

    I'm having trouble counting up all improbabilities here which, since they occur in conjunction, must be multiplied (more or less) to produce a combined, exponentially disappearing probability.

    I'm not a big believer in the simulation theory of reality, but, given the fact that no one else has mentioned this even in an iSteve comment thread (not to mention Steve didn't bring it up) has me seriously wondering.

    Of course, there is another possibility here. Trial by jury is a thorn in the side of any would-be tyranny -- jury nullification is a penultimate palladium of liberty, the ultimate being an armed citizenry -- something else that brings Texas to mind. I've been noticing a pattern of efforts to get conservatives to identify with 14th Amendment interpretations that permit Federal interventions in the laboratory of the states. Stuff like this "jury case" is so weird and in a sense optimal I'm not entirely convinced this wasn't somehow a set up.

    Replies: @Hail, @guest, @Alden

    Juries don’t need no 14th amendment. Their authority to ignore the law is inherent, you might say. Certainly doing so predates the Magical Expanding Clause.

    You know, if they just interpreted the law like a judge, we wouldn’t have juries. We’d just use judges. Because they’re the supposed experts. And if they don’t know anything, juries usually don’t either, because most people are idiots.

    We don’t go for that, as a civilization. Because we know it wouldn’t be long before judges were swinging from trees, whether or not they followed the law.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @guest

    Almost the entire difference between law in the United States and that of the rest of the Anglosphere comes down to jury nullification being upheld in the John Peter Zenger case.

    That’s why in the United States, though they can ruin your life in every other way for saying that, you can’t actually go to prison for “denying the Holocaust”. Everywhere else in the First World, you can and will. Everywhere else, the principle that “the truth is no defense” is codified black letter law. In this and many other situations.

    You cannot say that a government official’s mother is a whore, even if it is a public record that she was arrested for and plead guilty to the charge. The truth is no defense.

    In the United States, juries have the power to refuse to convict because they disagree with the law, the application of the law in a particular situation, or for any reason at all, besides being bribed or coerced to do so. Blacks, mestizos, and religious fanatics do it all the time, but most whites have been miseducated into believing that it is somehow wrong or that the boogeyman will get them if they do, or that the DA or judge will be mad at them. (He will. So what?)

    Replies: @Jack Henson

    , @James Bowery
    @guest

    Getting conservatives to back egregious 14th amendment interpretations is an independent issue I bring into conjunction with getting conservatives to back judges that over-rule juries to make the synergistic case that there is a pattern here.

    I didn't conflate the two. You did.

    , @James Bowery
    @guest

    There is a way to apply the 14th amendment in jury nullification:

    Jury nullification can protect communities from invasion by making life miserable for invaders, but since the Feds are traitors against The People, the Feds will use the 14th amendment's egregious interpretations to ensure that invaders are unopposed as they render territory uninhabitable by The People.

  41. Imagine if kids were being castrated for an actual reason, instead of no reason whatsoever. Then this debate might make a little sense.

    Wait, we need not imagine. Kingsley Amis did it for us:

  42. …the parents will have joint conservatorship over J*, which includes making joint medical decisions for the child.

    So what exactly is the upshot of this? — because if you look at this case: 1) the 2016 annulment gave the mother the “exclusive” right to decide the boy’s medical and psychological/psychiatric care; all she had to do was inform the father (read the court docs); 2) this recent case was about amending that agreement to restrict and sanction the father because he wasn’t going along with ‘affirming’ that James is Luna.

    So to now say the parents will make “joint medical decisions”, means amending the custody provisions of the original annulment; is that what has been done or will be done? — does the judge have the authority to unilaterally do this? — I imagine the mother would file suit to oppose it, because not only did she not get what she petitioned for, her parental authority has (apparently — ?) been dimished from what she was given in the 2016 annulment (where the court found the father had committed fraud upon entering the marriage) — presumably some kind of new doc/ruling will be issued.

    With the two parents at loggerheads over such a fundamental issue, how will “making joint medical decisions” work?

    ?

    Also, there is a 2015 video of 3 y/o James telling his father that his mother says he’s a girl, puts dresses on him, and paints his nails — this was after the separation but before the annulment.

    • Replies: @eah
    @eah

    Apparently/perhaps the black lady judge didn't do this entirely on her own initiative -- the video of a 3 y/o James is available at the link.

    James Younger, 7, to have Texas judge decide fate amid parents' gender transition battle; Abbott wades in


    A Texas dad’s desperate battle to keep his 7-year-old child from undergoing a gender transition championed by the biological male’s mother has captured the attention of conservatives nationwide – including the Lone Star State’s governor, who announced a review of the case by top officials, even as all involved await a pivotal court ruling Thursday that could alter the youngster’s life forever.
     

    Replies: @eah

    , @Alden
    @eah

    The parents will be in court several times a year till the boys turn 18.

    Crazy lady and those grant grifter hustlers will recommend puberty blockers. Dad will refuse to agree. Parents will be back in court about this and every decision.

  43. @Charles
    Consider that the judge had to overrule the jury. The jury - THE JURY - voted in favor of a type of child abuse unheard-of by sane people. The judge was forced to overrule. Plus there's this: almost all politicians and almost all MSM want people like those jury members to be the only people allowed to vote.

    Replies: @dfordoom, @Leo D

    Consider that the judge had to overrule the jury. The jury – THE JURY – voted in favor of a type of child abuse unheard-of by sane people. The judge was forced to overrule. Plus there’s this: almost all politicians and almost all MSM want people like those jury members to be the only people allowed to vote.

    The members of the jury were probably no dumber than the average person. The problem with juries is that they get faced with “scientific” evidence from “expert witnesses” and there’s no way the average person can tell how much is really scientific and how much is pure BS. And a lawyer can find an “expert witness” to testify to just about anything, given the enormous numbers of people out there with BS academic credentials in pseudosciences like psychiatry, gender studies, etc.

    The average person just never gets exposed to the idea that maybe all these experts are the same kinds of people who were peddling patent medicines a century ago. Most people will feel too intimidated to question the pronouncements of these pseudoscientists.

    • Replies: @Charles
    @dfordoom

    It's probably true that those jury members are no dumber than average. But the world's leading expert and proponent of "sex-reaassignment" surgery, whoever he is, is still an evil man. If a selection of however-many average people cannot discern between believing someone to be an expert and understanding, nevertheless, that the person desires and promotes evil, then "society" has fallen further than can be remedied.

  44. An ad among the comments just showed a performer in drag in an upcoming performance of Cinderella— at the Children’s Theatre Company in Minneapolis. I just had to look into this.

    Turns out it isn’t the lead, but the stepsisters who are portrayed by actors, presumably for comic effect. Both actors are straight and married with children, one with another cast member. (The stepmother.)

    How they are getting away with this is a mystery. Conservative critics might be mollified by pointing to Milton Berle 60 years ago. But several “woke” angles could be employed against the troupe.

    Is something inherently funny about men in dresses? If this is acceptable, why weren’t true drag performers recruited for the roles? They need the work more than poseurs do.

    The city just hosted a big protest about the Redskins coming to town. How is this any different?

    • Replies: @SnakeEyes
    @Reg Cæsar

    It must be a pantomime. A strange, British stage comedy where traditionally the "Dame" is played by an older male and the lead male part is played by a young female.

    , @Alden
    @Reg Cæsar

    In almost all the Cinderella ballets the stepsisters are men who dance and move very awkwardly & buffoonishly.

  45. @Hail
    @James Bowery


    TIMEOUT

    A Texas JURY voted 11 to 1 to grant sole custody to a parent who was castrating their son against the wishes of the other parent?
     

    It was in Dallas County (acc. to court documents).

    Presidential voting for Dallas County, Texas:

    Year: REP-DEM
    2016: 34-60
    2012: 42-57
    2008: 42-57
    2004: 50-49
    2000: 53-45

    That slide in 2016 from 42-->34 (-8) is faster than the grim march of demographic change would have predicted (previously, 53-->42 took four cycles, or -3 per cycle). So a relatively anti-Trump R voter base.

    ___________

    BTW -- Here is a email from Dr. Anne to the father that caught my eye. It was entered into evidence at the trial. Recall that 'Luna' is the name Dr. Anne uses for the boy she wants castrated:


    On M0n. Aug 20, 2018 at 7:16 PM Anne Georgulas [email] wrote:

    Jeff,

    Fortnight is not allowed at my house, so please don't show Jude or Luna Fortnight while on FaceTime.

    I also request you stop bullying Luna on FaceTime. When you ask her if everyone at school liked her haircut, you probably noticed, she didn't answer. She herself does not like her haircut. Please stop making her feel worse about herself than you already have.

    Anne
     

    This is a sad story.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Pericles

    That slide in 2016 from 42–>34 (-8) is faster than the grim march of demographic change would have predicted (previously, 53–>42 took four cycles, or -3 per cycle). So a relatively anti-Trump R voter base.

    Bush was a fellow citizen and a known entity, so there’s a distortion baked into this analysis. Romney and Trump are Northeasterners; McCain’s poor showing is what needs to be explained.

    • Replies: @Hail
    @Reg Cæsar


    McCain’s poor showing is what needs to be explained.
     
    It's possible McCain threw the election.

    Replies: @Not Raul

    , @FPD72
    @Reg Cæsar

    The demographics of Dallas County have been changing rapidly. What used to be white suburbs (Richardson, Irving, Grand Prairie, Mesquite, Garland, etc.) have been increasingly filled with POCs who vote overwhelmingly for Democrats.

    George Bush’s Preston Hollow neighborhood is still doing fine but his non-enforcement of immigration laws and the magnet of the amnesty for which he was pushing have had a negative effect on the rest of the county. White folks are fleeing farther and farther north to cities such as Frisco (which Steve mentioned several days ago) and McKinney. Twenty-five years ago Frisco had one Class 3A high school. Today it has ten Class 5A high schools. The combination of immigrant influx and whites moving out of Dallas County have turned it into a Democratic stronghold. It’s noteworthy that major companies that have moved large operations to the Dallas area (Toyota, State Farm, Liberty Mutual) have all located either on or north of the President George Bush toll road.

    I remember three decades ago reading articles in national publications that referred to Dallas as “the city that works.” Not any more. Because of pension obligations, the city is essentially bankrupt. DISD seems to be on a cycle of ethnically rotating superintendents, with each white superintendent cleaning up the messes left by the corrupt or inept black and Hispanic predecessors.

    My motto for Dallas used to be, “It’s a great place to live but I wouldn’t want to visit there.” That is no longer the case. We left nearly five years ago and haven’t looked back. If we had stayed in the area we would have moved to Frisco.

  46. @eah
    ...the parents will have joint conservatorship over J*, which includes making joint medical decisions for the child.

    So what exactly is the upshot of this? -- because if you look at this case: 1) the 2016 annulment gave the mother the "exclusive" right to decide the boy's medical and psychological/psychiatric care; all she had to do was inform the father (read the court docs); 2) this recent case was about amending that agreement to restrict and sanction the father because he wasn't going along with 'affirming' that James is Luna.

    So to now say the parents will make "joint medical decisions", means amending the custody provisions of the original annulment; is that what has been done or will be done? -- does the judge have the authority to unilaterally do this? -- I imagine the mother would file suit to oppose it, because not only did she not get what she petitioned for, her parental authority has (apparently -- ?) been dimished from what she was given in the 2016 annulment (where the court found the father had committed fraud upon entering the marriage) -- presumably some kind of new doc/ruling will be issued.

    With the two parents at loggerheads over such a fundamental issue, how will "making joint medical decisions" work?

    ?

    Also, there is a 2015 video of 3 y/o James telling his father that his mother says he's a girl, puts dresses on him, and paints his nails -- this was after the separation but before the annulment.

    Replies: @eah, @Alden

    Apparently/perhaps the black lady judge didn’t do this entirely on her own initiative — the video of a 3 y/o James is available at the link.

    James Younger, 7, to have Texas judge decide fate amid parents’ gender transition battle; Abbott wades in

    A Texas dad’s desperate battle to keep his 7-year-old child from undergoing a gender transition championed by the biological male’s mother has captured the attention of conservatives nationwide – including the Lone Star State’s governor, who announced a review of the case by top officials, even as all involved await a pivotal court ruling Thursday that could alter the youngster’s life forever.

    • Replies: @eah
    @eah

    It's not clear what's really been accomplished here, including for this little boy -- it remains to be seen what kind of amended custody agreement will be issued, and how that will work in practice: how his current 'affirmative' transition care will be affected.

    The mother in this case already had two adopted daughters when she married Younger -- presumably she had sole custody and (medical) decision-making authority over them (and still does) -- what if she had wanted to transition one of them at a very young age? -- would there have been anyone to question that or intervene? -- how about the many, many other vulnerable young children who may not have anyone to contest this sort of thing?

    To really address this insanity, it seems this case must be really only the starting point.

    Replies: @eah, @RadicalCenter

  47. @Reg Cæsar
    @Hail


    That slide in 2016 from 42–>34 (-8) is faster than the grim march of demographic change would have predicted (previously, 53–>42 took four cycles, or -3 per cycle). So a relatively anti-Trump R voter base.
     
    Bush was a fellow citizen and a known entity, so there's a distortion baked into this analysis. Romney and Trump are Northeasterners; McCain's poor showing is what needs to be explained.

    Replies: @Hail, @FPD72

    McCain’s poor showing is what needs to be explained.

    It’s possible McCain threw the election.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @Hail

    A man that ambitious would never throw a chance to be President, and a man that rich would never throw a chance to give himself a tax cut.

    Bush slandered and humiliated McCain so much in 2000 that his standing was greatly diminished among Bush-friendly Texas Republicans.

    Also, the Iraq War was one of the least popular aspects of Bush’s Presidency, especially by 2008, and McCain was strongly associated with the Iraq War.

  48. The mother sounds batshit crazy, much like the rest of the vanguard of the left that has taken the rest of society hostage.

  49. This is Trump’s America! This is XENOGYNEPHOBIA. This is THE HANDMAID’S TRANS TALE all over again. Forever and ever. Potential trans kids in cages! HOW LONG WILL THE SUFFERING HAVE TO GO ON! Arrest them all!!

    Sorry, a slight attack of the woke.

    From RT

    Another witness for Georgulas, Rebekka Ouer of Dallas Rainbow Counseling, testified that “gender is in the brain” and if James thinks he is a girl, then he truly is one.

    Did she really say it like that?

    This feels like the trans-industrial complex in action.

    I am a solution-focused therapist and author of the book, Solution Focused Brief Therapy with the LGBT Community: Creating Futures through Hope and Resilience from Routledge Publications.

    I founded Dallas Rainbow Counseling in 2011, with the hope of creating a bat-signal like beacon for the LGBT community, so that you would know there was a safe space where you can go to therapy without fear of judgement for just being you. My passion for this community, combined with my solution focused approach and ability to connect with clients is what sets me apart from other therapists in this area.

    At 0.25 USD per page:

    • Replies: @eah
    @El Dato

    Did she really say it like that?

    Yes buddy I'm sure she does; many people do, including the Mass Gen-trained pediatric endocrinologist who founded the GENECIS clinic that has been involved in the 'affirmative' care of James Younger.

    Also this doctor 'says it like that':

    https://twitter.com/DrJenGunter/status/1186844626528813057

  50. Trump to New York Times: You’re Fired!

    Seriously. He’s cancelled the White House subscriptions to the NYT and WaPo, and he’s planning to order the same for other federal agencies.

    Reported here with, perhaps, a bit of irony:

    Oct. 24, 2019

    President Trump has called members of the press “enemies of the people,” deemed critical coverage “fake,” accused news organizations of treason and threatened to make it easier to sue journalists for libel.

    But not until this week had Mr. Trump turned to the ultimate recourse of the unhappy reader: He canceled his subscription.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/business/media/trump-subscription-new-york-times.html

    I really like Trump when he is at his Trumpiest.

    • Replies: @Goddard
    @The Alarmist

    What took him so long?

  51. @Reg Cæsar
    An ad among the comments just showed a performer in drag in an upcoming performance of Cinderella-- at the Children's Theatre Company in Minneapolis. I just had to look into this.

    Turns out it isn't the lead, but the stepsisters who are portrayed by actors, presumably for comic effect. Both actors are straight and married with children, one with another cast member. (The stepmother.)

    How they are getting away with this is a mystery. Conservative critics might be mollified by pointing to Milton Berle 60 years ago. But several "woke" angles could be employed against the troupe.

    Is something inherently funny about men in dresses? If this is acceptable, why weren't true drag performers recruited for the roles? They need the work more than poseurs do.


    The city just hosted a big protest about the Redskins coming to town. How is this any different?

    Replies: @SnakeEyes, @Alden

    It must be a pantomime. A strange, British stage comedy where traditionally the “Dame” is played by an older male and the lead male part is played by a young female.

  52. @guest
    What I was up to at 7 years of age? Vague memories of the Berlin Wall coming down. Seeking earnestly to avoid attending 2nd grade. Dreams of becoming Bart Simpson. Anticipating the Apple Watch™ with Warren Beaty Dick Tracy™ toys.

    Notably not seeking ways to rid myself of masculine external genitalia. Nor anticipating how I would feel post-puberty. There is no way I could have imagined what 16 year-old me would be like, anymore than the Wolfman knows what waits for him just before a full moon appears in the sky.

    Replies: @Kratoklastes

    What I was up to at 7 years of age?

    • Salt pills (which were great, because we were allowed cordial to wash them down);
    • abo kids as really close mates;
    • sitting in the big freezers at AMSCOL (which my Dad ran) drinking orange juice and eating chocolate.
    • Mum painting a tiki on Dad’s Mini – which was a racing car called ‘Little Tutae‘ (Little Shit, in Maori) that he raced at the local speedway for laughs.
    • Saw ‘Soldier Blue‘ and ‘A Man Called Horse‘ at the Memorial Club, and ‘Fists of Fury‘ (a new release) at the cinema – which didn’t have a roof: it opened to the sky (which made it awesome when the power went out). “Soldier Blue” is an amazing movie.
    • Demis Roussos, Nana Mouskouri and Bay City Rollers were on the juke box constantly;
    • Dad buying a double-decker bus from a beef station for $50, and driving it back (the station owners had an idea they could use them for stock transport – neglecting to think about how to get cattle upstairs);
    • helping Dad rip out all the seats in the bus (we decked it out with beds etc);
    • Paddlefoot – the part-lab mutt that was our best mate;
    • Danny Kaye records; “How and Why Wonder Books“; “Tell Me Why” (and “More Tell Me Why“) and Linguaphone German;
    • Singing “My Name is Dr Ironbeard” in class.

    The early 70s in the godforsaken middle of Australia (Tennant Creek, to be precise) were absolutely awesome if you were 7 at the time. It’s the period I look back on most fondly.

    • Replies: @Joe Schmoe
    @Kratoklastes

    Poor little James won't be having any fond memories thanks to psychopath feminist mom ruining childhood for him.

    I wonder how many of her patients are now former patients.

    Her mailbox must be stuffed with those medical release forms you fill in when the new doctor requests all the records from your previous doctor.

    , @dfordoom
    @Kratoklastes


    “How and Why Wonder Books“
     
    They're something I really miss.
  53. @El Dato
    This is Trump's America! This is XENOGYNEPHOBIA. This is THE HANDMAID'S TRANS TALE all over again. Forever and ever. Potential trans kids in cages! HOW LONG WILL THE SUFFERING HAVE TO GO ON! Arrest them all!!

    Sorry, a slight attack of the woke.

    From RT

    Another witness for Georgulas, Rebekka Ouer of Dallas Rainbow Counseling, testified that “gender is in the brain” and if James thinks he is a girl, then he truly is one.
     
    Did she really say it like that?

    This feels like the trans-industrial complex in action.

    I am a solution-focused therapist and author of the book, Solution Focused Brief Therapy with the LGBT Community: Creating Futures through Hope and Resilience from Routledge Publications.

    I founded Dallas Rainbow Counseling in 2011, with the hope of creating a bat-signal like beacon for the LGBT community, so that you would know there was a safe space where you can go to therapy without fear of judgement for just being you. My passion for this community, combined with my solution focused approach and ability to connect with clients is what sets me apart from other therapists in this area.

     

    At 0.25 USD per page:

    https://www.amazon.com/Solution-Focused-Brief-Therapy-LGBT-Community-dp-1138819573/dp/1138819573/ref=mt_paperback?_encoding=UTF8&me=&qid=1571990102

    Replies: @eah

    Did she really say it like that?

    Yes buddy I’m sure she does; many people do, including the Mass Gen-trained pediatric endocrinologist who founded the GENECIS clinic that has been involved in the ‘affirmative’ care of James Younger.

    Also this doctor ‘says it like that’:

  54. @eah
    @eah

    Apparently/perhaps the black lady judge didn't do this entirely on her own initiative -- the video of a 3 y/o James is available at the link.

    James Younger, 7, to have Texas judge decide fate amid parents' gender transition battle; Abbott wades in


    A Texas dad’s desperate battle to keep his 7-year-old child from undergoing a gender transition championed by the biological male’s mother has captured the attention of conservatives nationwide – including the Lone Star State’s governor, who announced a review of the case by top officials, even as all involved await a pivotal court ruling Thursday that could alter the youngster’s life forever.
     

    Replies: @eah

    It’s not clear what’s really been accomplished here, including for this little boy — it remains to be seen what kind of amended custody agreement will be issued, and how that will work in practice: how his current ‘affirmative’ transition care will be affected.

    The mother in this case already had two adopted daughters when she married Younger — presumably she had sole custody and (medical) decision-making authority over them (and still does) — what if she had wanted to transition one of them at a very young age? — would there have been anyone to question that or intervene? — how about the many, many other vulnerable young children who may not have anyone to contest this sort of thing?

    To really address this insanity, it seems this case must be really only the starting point.

    • Replies: @eah
    @eah

    "only the starting point"

    https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1187176979986026497

    Replies: @Hail

    , @RadicalCenter
    @eah

    The woman must have custody of ALL “her” children taken away and then be prosecuted and imprisoned for attempting to mutilate her son surgically and chemically.

    In a sensible society, she might be placed in an institution and treated for her severe mental illness.

    Any doctor who helps to effect or recommend surgical or chemical mutilation and abuse of this perfectly functional young boy, should also be prosecuted and imprisoned, as well as lose his license to practice.

    Replies: @haha

  55. @Anon
    @Hockamaw

    He does not have "really serious emotional problems". In the videos I've seen posted by his dad and from descriptions of those around him, he sounds like a perfectly normal little boy. The mom is the one with the real emotional problems and she's effing up the kid.

    She should have her pediatrician license revoked.

    Our schools' sex ed is completely effed up. In my kid's high school sex ed they basically tell the kids if you are depressed and lonely, don't like to do all the things kids of your gender like to do, like if you are a girl who prefers to do outdoorsy stuff instead of wearing makeup and talking about boys all day, you could be gay or transgender! No wonder so many SJWs are now declaring themselves gay or trans.

    The most effed up thing is, in the next chapter they tell the kids you should defy gender stereotype, just because you're a girl doesn't mean you have to like all the things girls like, you can be outdoorsy, like sports...So basically they tell our kids they should defy gender stereotype, then the minute they do, they tell them you should become another gender. Talk about F up!

    These progressivetards are so dumb they can't even see the cognitive dissonance of what they are preaching, or maybe they could but this is just an agenda to turn all our kids gay or transgender. Lots of money to be made now that Obama's made it mandatory for insurance to cover sex change therapy and "treatment".

    Replies: @Counterinsurgency

    These progressivetards are so dumb they can’t even see the cognitive dissonance of what they are preaching, or maybe they could but this is just an agenda to turn all our kids gay or transgender.

    With reference to the public schools:
    Once upon a time there was a psychologist who conducted experiments on rats. Mazes coupled with electric shock, deadfalls, drowning, starvation. Didn’t learn much, but he did kill a lot of rats, and so his funding continued.

    Counterinsurgency

  56. I think the (legally designated) mother stepped in a big pile of dog crap, and she’s going to have a hell of a time keeping custody from here on out. As I wrote in my previous comment, the judge punted, and now the agencies are going to get involved and really start scrutinizing the mother. Because she’s a pediatrician, she’s likely to start facing more scrutiny regarding her professional record and behavior as well.

    The jury verdict actually helped the father (I anticipated this). Look at everyone’s reaction to it. The idea that a family court jury could decide whether parents can castrate their children on the basis of “conservatorship” is preposterous. I really doubt that’s what the jury ruled on or intended, but that’s how people are interpreting it, and it isn’t going down well.

    What a lot of people don’t know about our family law regime is that the one most important thing that prevents lots of fathers from losing it and going Rambo on judges and caseworkers is concern for their children’s well-being. Children are hostages in an important sense. Fathers are reassured that if they are well-behaved, obedient to the court, and pay their dues, they will have time with their children and retain some meaningful say over how they’re raised. Hope is an extremely powerful motivating force.

    If that hope is taken away, and judges (or juries, as the case may be) are allowed to decree that fathers will not only lose custody of their children and have to pay for the privilege, but be forced to affirm and comply with their kids having their junk cut off and being pimped out to the tranny/lgbtq community, judges are going to have to start hiring 24-hour security details.

    Judges are smart enough to know this. Most fathers will put up with enormous burdens and sacrifices if they are persuaded that it’s for the good of their children. That’s what the entire family law racket revolves around. It’s an evil and extortionist system, but there is that check on it. Take away “best interests of the child” and it falls like a house of cards, and those who profit from it start facing the consequences.

    So I expect Anne Georgulas to be very unpopular among the family law set. She threw a major monkey wrench into their system, and they’re going to make her pay for it. I wouldn’t be surprised if she ends up losing custody and having to pay child support.

    • Agree: Hail
    • Replies: @eah
    @Bill P

    The idea that a family court jury could decide whether parents can castrate their children on the basis of “conservatorship” is preposterous.

    Maybe it's popularly and morally "preposterous" (it is of course), but it isn't legally, especially when a custodial parent has "exclusive" authority to decide on the child's healthcare, as the mother did here (the father only had to be informed) -- the plain fact is, if the father had assented to the boy's 'affirmative' transition care, or otherewise not had the wherewithal to challenge it, this case would likely never have seen the light of day -- but would the 'affirmative' transitioning of a 7 y/o boy be any less "preposterous"?

    And as I mentioned before: what about all of the vulnerable kids who have no one to contest this sort of thing for them?

    ...I really doubt that’s what the jury ruled on or intended,...

    If not, they were the dumbest jury instructed by the dumbest judge in the world -- as already explained to you before (ahem), that's what this case was solely about -- she sued in court to change the provisions of the custody agreement becauses the father was not cooperating in 'affirming' that James is Luna; she wanted even more legal authority to proceed with that, eg to restrict his access and legally sanction the father if he continued to be uncooperative -- what about that is not clear to you? -- read the legal docs.

    Also at this stage there has been, AFAIK, no talk of "castration" -- or chemical "castration" via puberty blockers -- that would have come later (assuming no change of heart by the mother) -- at the moment the boy is only receiving (gender) 'affirmative' care/counseling: after being told for (at least four) years by his mother that he's a girl, he identifies as a girl (at least in some settings, including school); he wears girls clothing ("); he is addressed by his girls name Luna, as well as female pronouns -- the father was not cooperating in all of that, which was the proximate trigger for this court proceeding.

    Replies: @guest, @Pericles

  57. @eah
    @eah

    It's not clear what's really been accomplished here, including for this little boy -- it remains to be seen what kind of amended custody agreement will be issued, and how that will work in practice: how his current 'affirmative' transition care will be affected.

    The mother in this case already had two adopted daughters when she married Younger -- presumably she had sole custody and (medical) decision-making authority over them (and still does) -- what if she had wanted to transition one of them at a very young age? -- would there have been anyone to question that or intervene? -- how about the many, many other vulnerable young children who may not have anyone to contest this sort of thing?

    To really address this insanity, it seems this case must be really only the starting point.

    Replies: @eah, @RadicalCenter

    “only the starting point”

    • Replies: @Hail
    @eah


    introduce legislation in every state that makes it a crime to "gender transition" children.
     
    How does the Left get out of this one?

    Replies: @eah, @Jack Henson

  58. @eah
    @eah

    "only the starting point"

    https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1187176979986026497

    Replies: @Hail

    introduce legislation in every state that makes it a crime to “gender transition” children.

    How does the Left get out of this one?

    • Replies: @eah
    @Hail

    Going by social media, there appears to be considerable (how considerable I don't know) support for this sort of insanity thing -- by "this sort of thing" I mean 'affirmative' gender transition care for kids, leading inevitably to hormone therapy and surgery later in life -- an initiative like this would force every elected politician to take a public stand on it, which alone would be a good thing -- what the outcome would be I cannot say (which is very sad of course, even infuriating).

    , @Jack Henson
    @Hail

    It's the Lyndon Johnson "I want to hear him deny he's blowing a horse" strategy in action.

    Every few years idiot normies forget the last time the Dems ran a normal "I'll make my own decisions" style candidate who sounds sane during the general and then goes and marches in lockstep with the current leftist insanity for 2 years. You can cause a lot of havoc for two years tho.

    Look at Katie Hill. Some sort of bisexual pimp for her husband who ran on "BELIEVE WOMEN" and won off the fact suburban Repiblican women said "She's just like me!".

  59. @Bill P
    I think the (legally designated) mother stepped in a big pile of dog crap, and she's going to have a hell of a time keeping custody from here on out. As I wrote in my previous comment, the judge punted, and now the agencies are going to get involved and really start scrutinizing the mother. Because she's a pediatrician, she's likely to start facing more scrutiny regarding her professional record and behavior as well.

    The jury verdict actually helped the father (I anticipated this). Look at everyone's reaction to it. The idea that a family court jury could decide whether parents can castrate their children on the basis of "conservatorship" is preposterous. I really doubt that's what the jury ruled on or intended, but that's how people are interpreting it, and it isn't going down well.

    What a lot of people don't know about our family law regime is that the one most important thing that prevents lots of fathers from losing it and going Rambo on judges and caseworkers is concern for their children's well-being. Children are hostages in an important sense. Fathers are reassured that if they are well-behaved, obedient to the court, and pay their dues, they will have time with their children and retain some meaningful say over how they're raised. Hope is an extremely powerful motivating force.

    If that hope is taken away, and judges (or juries, as the case may be) are allowed to decree that fathers will not only lose custody of their children and have to pay for the privilege, but be forced to affirm and comply with their kids having their junk cut off and being pimped out to the tranny/lgbtq community, judges are going to have to start hiring 24-hour security details.

    Judges are smart enough to know this. Most fathers will put up with enormous burdens and sacrifices if they are persuaded that it's for the good of their children. That's what the entire family law racket revolves around. It's an evil and extortionist system, but there is that check on it. Take away "best interests of the child" and it falls like a house of cards, and those who profit from it start facing the consequences.

    So I expect Anne Georgulas to be very unpopular among the family law set. She threw a major monkey wrench into their system, and they're going to make her pay for it. I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up losing custody and having to pay child support.

    Replies: @eah

    The idea that a family court jury could decide whether parents can castrate their children on the basis of “conservatorship” is preposterous.

    Maybe it’s popularly and morally “preposterous” (it is of course), but it isn’t legally, especially when a custodial parent has “exclusive” authority to decide on the child’s healthcare, as the mother did here (the father only had to be informed) — the plain fact is, if the father had assented to the boy’s ‘affirmative’ transition care, or otherewise not had the wherewithal to challenge it, this case would likely never have seen the light of day — but would the ‘affirmative’ transitioning of a 7 y/o boy be any less “preposterous”?

    And as I mentioned before: what about all of the vulnerable kids who have no one to contest this sort of thing for them?

    …I really doubt that’s what the jury ruled on or intended,…

    If not, they were the dumbest jury instructed by the dumbest judge in the world — as already explained to you before (ahem), that’s what this case was solely about — she sued in court to change the provisions of the custody agreement becauses the father was not cooperating in ‘affirming’ that James is Luna; she wanted even more legal authority to proceed with that, eg to restrict his access and legally sanction the father if he continued to be uncooperative — what about that is not clear to you? — read the legal docs.

    Also at this stage there has been, AFAIK, no talk of “castration” — or chemical “castration” via puberty blockers — that would have come later (assuming no change of heart by the mother) — at the moment the boy is only receiving (gender) ‘affirmative’ care/counseling: after being told for (at least four) years by his mother that he’s a girl, he identifies as a girl (at least in some settings, including school); he wears girls clothing (“); he is addressed by his girls name Luna, as well as female pronouns — the father was not cooperating in all of that, which was the proximate trigger for this court proceeding.

    • Replies: @guest
    @eah

    The mind boggles at what elective castration has to do with healthcare.

    , @Pericles
    @eah


    ‘affirmative’ care/counseling: after being told for (at least four) years by his mother that he’s a girl, he identifies as a girl (at least in some settings, including school); he wears girls clothing (“); he is addressed by his girls name Luna, as well as female pronouns

     

    Entirely different from the horrible, horrible phenomenon of 'gaslighting', I'm sure.
  60. @Hail
    @eah


    introduce legislation in every state that makes it a crime to "gender transition" children.
     
    How does the Left get out of this one?

    Replies: @eah, @Jack Henson

    Going by social media, there appears to be considerable (how considerable I don’t know) support for this sort of insanity thing — by “this sort of thing” I mean ‘affirmative’ gender transition care for kids, leading inevitably to hormone therapy and surgery later in life — an initiative like this would force every elected politician to take a public stand on it, which alone would be a good thing — what the outcome would be I cannot say (which is very sad of course, even infuriating).

  61. @eah
    @eah

    It's not clear what's really been accomplished here, including for this little boy -- it remains to be seen what kind of amended custody agreement will be issued, and how that will work in practice: how his current 'affirmative' transition care will be affected.

    The mother in this case already had two adopted daughters when she married Younger -- presumably she had sole custody and (medical) decision-making authority over them (and still does) -- what if she had wanted to transition one of them at a very young age? -- would there have been anyone to question that or intervene? -- how about the many, many other vulnerable young children who may not have anyone to contest this sort of thing?

    To really address this insanity, it seems this case must be really only the starting point.

    Replies: @eah, @RadicalCenter

    The woman must have custody of ALL “her” children taken away and then be prosecuted and imprisoned for attempting to mutilate her son surgically and chemically.

    In a sensible society, she might be placed in an institution and treated for her severe mental illness.

    Any doctor who helps to effect or recommend surgical or chemical mutilation and abuse of this perfectly functional young boy, should also be prosecuted and imprisoned, as well as lose his license to practice.

    • Replies: @haha
    @RadicalCenter

    Absolutely agree on all points. This case is outrageous, simply outrageous. The libtards need to be hauled up and made to understand that if they mess with young children they will have the same things done to them. The doctors should have reported this "mother" to the police for child abuse years ago.

  62. Anonymous[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @guest
    @James Bowery

    Juries don't need no 14th amendment. Their authority to ignore the law is inherent, you might say. Certainly doing so predates the Magical Expanding Clause.

    You know, if they just interpreted the law like a judge, we wouldn't have juries. We'd just use judges. Because they're the supposed experts. And if they don't know anything, juries usually don't either, because most people are idiots.

    We don't go for that, as a civilization. Because we know it wouldn't be long before judges were swinging from trees, whether or not they followed the law.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @James Bowery, @James Bowery

    Almost the entire difference between law in the United States and that of the rest of the Anglosphere comes down to jury nullification being upheld in the John Peter Zenger case.

    That’s why in the United States, though they can ruin your life in every other way for saying that, you can’t actually go to prison for “denying the Holocaust”. Everywhere else in the First World, you can and will. Everywhere else, the principle that “the truth is no defense” is codified black letter law. In this and many other situations.

    You cannot say that a government official’s mother is a whore, even if it is a public record that she was arrested for and plead guilty to the charge. The truth is no defense.

    In the United States, juries have the power to refuse to convict because they disagree with the law, the application of the law in a particular situation, or for any reason at all, besides being bribed or coerced to do so. Blacks, mestizos, and religious fanatics do it all the time, but most whites have been miseducated into believing that it is somehow wrong or that the boogeyman will get them if they do, or that the DA or judge will be mad at them. (He will. So what?)

    • Replies: @Jack Henson
    @Anonymous

    Lmao see how well jury nullification works in a "hate crime " and watch it get btfo. There's an entire body of legal work dedicated to sending in federal enforcers with unlimited time and money when stupid southern juries didn't vote how the NYT wanted them to.

  63. The woman must have custody of ALL “her” children taken away and then be prosecuted and imprisoned for attempting to mutilate her son surgically and chemically.

    Look, the woman is despicable for what she has done to this little boy: she began telling him he was a girl, dressing him like a girl, and calling him Luna when he was only 3 y/o ffs — but to date he has only received ‘affirmative‘ therapy/counseling — hormone therapy would come later; surgery even later: I cannot imagine they can or would perform sex-change surgery on a physically immature person, meaning it would be done (earliest) only on a young adult; I don’t believe the new structures can grow (?) — again: AFAIK, there has been no talk yet of either hormone therapy or surgery for this little boy — of course the father wanted to stop all of it before it got to that point.

    Probably a lot of psychological/emotional harm has already been done to the boy.

  64. “The New York Times continues to do its part by never ever yet mentioning this story, as part of its commitment to protecting its readers from interesting but off-Narrative news.”

    Try again, Mr. Sailer.

    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/10/24/us/ap-us-texas-custody-case-transgender-fight.html

    Sailer Pro Bonehead–Accuse your opponent of exactly the machinations you allegedly disdain, yet religiously employ.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Corvinus

    That isn't the NY Times, it's the AP.

    The NY Times indexes AP stories on its website. But this story has not appeared in the NY Times itself, neither the print edition nor the electronic edition.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  65. @Charles
    Consider that the judge had to overrule the jury. The jury - THE JURY - voted in favor of a type of child abuse unheard-of by sane people. The judge was forced to overrule. Plus there's this: almost all politicians and almost all MSM want people like those jury members to be the only people allowed to vote.

    Replies: @dfordoom, @Leo D

    The only issue the jury decided was custody, which they decided in favor of the mother…why?…who the hell knows…

    The judge ruled on everything else. Not sure if ‘joint conservatorship’ means joint custody, in the commonly known physical sense. Words have meaning, especially in legal proceedings. If he doesn’t get joint physical custody, the kid is screwed…well, the kid is already likely screwed. The only way to save the kid is to get him away from [not] mom.

    [not] – remember, ‘mom’ is not blood related to the kid…donor egg and dad’s sperm…

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Leo D

    If you’re not sure look it up. It’s a stricter form of guardianship varies from state to state. Look up the Texas version

  66. @eah
    @Bill P

    The idea that a family court jury could decide whether parents can castrate their children on the basis of “conservatorship” is preposterous.

    Maybe it's popularly and morally "preposterous" (it is of course), but it isn't legally, especially when a custodial parent has "exclusive" authority to decide on the child's healthcare, as the mother did here (the father only had to be informed) -- the plain fact is, if the father had assented to the boy's 'affirmative' transition care, or otherewise not had the wherewithal to challenge it, this case would likely never have seen the light of day -- but would the 'affirmative' transitioning of a 7 y/o boy be any less "preposterous"?

    And as I mentioned before: what about all of the vulnerable kids who have no one to contest this sort of thing for them?

    ...I really doubt that’s what the jury ruled on or intended,...

    If not, they were the dumbest jury instructed by the dumbest judge in the world -- as already explained to you before (ahem), that's what this case was solely about -- she sued in court to change the provisions of the custody agreement becauses the father was not cooperating in 'affirming' that James is Luna; she wanted even more legal authority to proceed with that, eg to restrict his access and legally sanction the father if he continued to be uncooperative -- what about that is not clear to you? -- read the legal docs.

    Also at this stage there has been, AFAIK, no talk of "castration" -- or chemical "castration" via puberty blockers -- that would have come later (assuming no change of heart by the mother) -- at the moment the boy is only receiving (gender) 'affirmative' care/counseling: after being told for (at least four) years by his mother that he's a girl, he identifies as a girl (at least in some settings, including school); he wears girls clothing ("); he is addressed by his girls name Luna, as well as female pronouns -- the father was not cooperating in all of that, which was the proximate trigger for this court proceeding.

    Replies: @guest, @Pericles

    The mind boggles at what elective castration has to do with healthcare.

  67. @Jack Henson
    @Not My Economy

    Estrogen isn't a schedule drug, but testosterone and anabolic steroids are.

    Kind of a funny oversight, ain't it?

    Replies: @Joe Schmoe

    Estrogen isn’t a schedule drug, but testosterone and anabolic steroids are.

    Kind of a funny oversight, ain’t it?

    Estrogen is a known carcinogen and actually more dangerous than testosterone.

    But estrogen is used in the pill and makes young women sexually available for lots of free sex with cads and blackguards, so… any ill effects will be largely ignored and distanced from it.

    • Agree: Liza
    • Replies: @Jack Henson
    @Joe Schmoe

    The "damgers" of testosterone are largely overblown by a generation of after school specials showing two injections turning someone into the incredible hulk before dying in a rage fueled car crash.

    It's not an exaggeration to say that for men suffering from low T or andropause it's more difficult to get testosterone than opioids, or that opioids have killed more in a year than testosterone has since the 1940s. Men walking around with 200 test levels being told "its normal " while many of the same doctors wouldnt blink at putting an 11 year old boy on spiro.

    The "men's clinics" are filling a void sure, and they're better than nothing, but not every man needs the 500mg test cyp/HGH weekly compound floating around as formula de jure it seems. However expecting the current crop of doctors to get on board is a bridge too far. Much too busy trying to strangle the autonomy of NPs filling the void they created.

    , @Alden
    @Joe Schmoe

    60 years of the pill and estrogen replacement therapy no one’s got cancer yet. It was just the mass tort attorneys hoping for a big payoff. Similar to today,s anti vaccination hysterics.

  68. @Corvinus
    "The New York Times continues to do its part by never ever yet mentioning this story, as part of its commitment to protecting its readers from interesting but off-Narrative news."

    Try again, Mr. Sailer.

    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/10/24/us/ap-us-texas-custody-case-transgender-fight.html

    Sailer Pro Bonehead--Accuse your opponent of exactly the machinations you allegedly disdain, yet religiously employ.

    Replies: @anonymous

    That isn’t the NY Times, it’s the AP.

    The NY Times indexes AP stories on its website. But this story has not appeared in the NY Times itself, neither the print edition nor the electronic edition.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @anonymous

    "That isn’t the NY Times, it’s the AP."

    Regardless, the story was mentioned in that newspaper. Praytell, does Mr. Sailer and the Alt Right "suppress" stories? Would you have similar outrage, or are you virtue signaling here?

  69. @Kratoklastes
    @guest


    What I was up to at 7 years of age?
     
    • Salt pills (which were great, because we were allowed cordial to wash them down);
    • abo kids as really close mates;
    • sitting in the big freezers at AMSCOL (which my Dad ran) drinking orange juice and eating chocolate.
    • Mum painting a tiki on Dad's Mini - which was a racing car called 'Little Tutae' (Little Shit, in Maori) that he raced at the local speedway for laughs.
    • Saw 'Soldier Blue' and 'A Man Called Horse' at the Memorial Club, and 'Fists of Fury' (a new release) at the cinema - which didn't have a roof: it opened to the sky (which made it awesome when the power went out). "Soldier Blue" is an amazing movie.
    • Demis Roussos, Nana Mouskouri and Bay City Rollers were on the juke box constantly;
    • Dad buying a double-decker bus from a beef station for $50, and driving it back (the station owners had an idea they could use them for stock transport - neglecting to think about how to get cattle upstairs);
    • helping Dad rip out all the seats in the bus (we decked it out with beds etc);
    • Paddlefoot - the part-lab mutt that was our best mate;
    • Danny Kaye records; "How and Why Wonder Books"; "Tell Me Why" (and "More Tell Me Why") and Linguaphone German;
    • Singing "My Name is Dr Ironbeard" in class.


    The early 70s in the godforsaken middle of Australia (Tennant Creek, to be precise) were absolutely awesome if you were 7 at the time. It's the period I look back on most fondly.

    Replies: @Joe Schmoe, @dfordoom

    Poor little James won’t be having any fond memories thanks to psychopath feminist mom ruining childhood for him.

    I wonder how many of her patients are now former patients.

    Her mailbox must be stuffed with those medical release forms you fill in when the new doctor requests all the records from your previous doctor.

  70. @Bill P
    The judge didn't really overrule the jury. The jury decided only on the technical merits of the case, finding that Mr. Younger violated the custody order, in which he had foolishly signed away his parental rights regarding medical decisions.

    Then, the judge made a "best interests of the child" determination that the father should have joint conservatorship, including for medical decisions, and amended the order to make it so.

    This is why in previous comments I said that the jury decision was far from the final word on this. Child custody is a fluid concept out of necessity. Circumstances can change quickly, and at a certain point the child himself can overrule the order, so it isn't well-suited to jury trials.

    The issue of whether physically altering pre-pubescent children in service to trans ideology is permissible will not be decided in family court, and it would take an exceptionally stupid judge to try to do that. Judge Cooks wisely chose to punt on the issue.

    Replies: @TWS

    Most people think of, ‘broken arm’, or ‘measles’ when they think of medical decisions. Not, ‘let’s cut off his cock and balls then stuff him in a dress’.

  71. @Dr. X
    @Hockamaw

    Yup. The kid is gonna be screwed up even if he mother doesn't chemically castrate him at age seven. The very fact that she was willing to go to court to do so indicates that she is so fucked up there's no way the kid can possibly turn out normal...

    Replies: @haha, @Prester John

    Well, it is not just the mother who is messed up. How on earth can a court of law even entertain a request for the chemical castration of a young child? What were those jury members smoking? No one, repeat no one, has any ethical right to mess up with a young child’s body. And shame on the doctors and medical bodies that haven’t denounced “transitioning” as utter nonsense. The tiny minority of adults (not children) who have problems with their sexual identity may be helped with surgery or chemicals. But a man can no more become a woman than he can a bird. Let the idiot leftists transition to being birds and let them fly off the edge of a high cliff en masse.

  72. @RadicalCenter
    @eah

    The woman must have custody of ALL “her” children taken away and then be prosecuted and imprisoned for attempting to mutilate her son surgically and chemically.

    In a sensible society, she might be placed in an institution and treated for her severe mental illness.

    Any doctor who helps to effect or recommend surgical or chemical mutilation and abuse of this perfectly functional young boy, should also be prosecuted and imprisoned, as well as lose his license to practice.

    Replies: @haha

    Absolutely agree on all points. This case is outrageous, simply outrageous. The libtards need to be hauled up and made to understand that if they mess with young children they will have the same things done to them. The doctors should have reported this “mother” to the police for child abuse years ago.

  73. @The Alarmist
    Trump to New York Times: You're Fired!

    Seriously. He's cancelled the White House subscriptions to the NYT and WaPo, and he's planning to order the same for other federal agencies.

    Reported here with, perhaps, a bit of irony:


    Oct. 24, 2019

    President Trump has called members of the press “enemies of the people,” deemed critical coverage “fake,” accused news organizations of treason and threatened to make it easier to sue journalists for libel.

    But not until this week had Mr. Trump turned to the ultimate recourse of the unhappy reader: He canceled his subscription.

     

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/business/media/trump-subscription-new-york-times.html

    I really like Trump when he is at his Trumpiest.

    Replies: @Goddard

    What took him so long?

  74. @gregor
    How in the hell did they find these jurors that ruled for the mom? Especially in Texas of all places.
    Did they realize what they were doing or were the full implications of their verdict obscured from them?

    Replies: @anon, @Alden

    It was 11 jurors voted for the Mom and just 1 for the Dad. Obviously they believed the Mom’s witnesses.

  75. @Leo D
    @Charles

    The only issue the jury decided was custody, which they decided in favor of the mother...why?...who the hell knows...

    The judge ruled on everything else. Not sure if 'joint conservatorship' means joint custody, in the commonly known physical sense. Words have meaning, especially in legal proceedings. If he doesn't get joint physical custody, the kid is screwed...well, the kid is already likely screwed. The only way to save the kid is to get him away from [not] mom.

    [not] - remember, 'mom' is not blood related to the kid...donor egg and dad's sperm...

    Replies: @Alden

    If you’re not sure look it up. It’s a stricter form of guardianship varies from state to state. Look up the Texas version

  76. • Replies: @eah
    @eah

    FWIW -- Part 2

    https://twitter.com/Longshanks_1290/status/1187514305123536896

  77. @eah
    FWIW -- Part 1

    https://twitter.com/Longshanks_1290/status/1187514305123536896

    Replies: @eah

  78. @guest
    @James Bowery

    Juries don't need no 14th amendment. Their authority to ignore the law is inherent, you might say. Certainly doing so predates the Magical Expanding Clause.

    You know, if they just interpreted the law like a judge, we wouldn't have juries. We'd just use judges. Because they're the supposed experts. And if they don't know anything, juries usually don't either, because most people are idiots.

    We don't go for that, as a civilization. Because we know it wouldn't be long before judges were swinging from trees, whether or not they followed the law.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @James Bowery, @James Bowery

    Getting conservatives to back egregious 14th amendment interpretations is an independent issue I bring into conjunction with getting conservatives to back judges that over-rule juries to make the synergistic case that there is a pattern here.

    I didn’t conflate the two. You did.

  79. @Dr. X
    @Hockamaw

    Yup. The kid is gonna be screwed up even if he mother doesn't chemically castrate him at age seven. The very fact that she was willing to go to court to do so indicates that she is so fucked up there's no way the kid can possibly turn out normal...

    Replies: @haha, @Prester John

    And what is most frightening is that the numbers of people out there who actually SUPPORT this woman are legion!!!

    “Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world” (“The Second Coming–William Butler Yeats)

  80. @eugyppius
    @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    In an ideal world, ten years from now, this kid will be in his later teens, hitting the gym, hitting on girls, and because of his (at best) clueless father and (at best) deranged mother there will be eminently googleable pictures of him as a seven year-old wearing a dress all over the internet.

    There is a lot his father could've done to minimize this risk, beginning with using initials or an alias instead of his son's actual name, posting an audio file instead of a video of the conversation with his kid, and in general making his blog much less of a family photo album.

    Jeff Younger probably "had no choice" but to seek publicity, I get that. But in seeking it he has shown not a hint of caution and that's terrible. His son's first name is in the URL of the blog and on the t-shirts he's selling. Just imagine when this kid's peers get ahold of one of those.

    Replies: @Pericles

    In Europe we have GDPR and the ‘Right to be forgotten’. Would actually work well in this case, I think.

    Another option is for the boy to change his name (again).

  81. @guest
    @James Bowery

    Juries don't need no 14th amendment. Their authority to ignore the law is inherent, you might say. Certainly doing so predates the Magical Expanding Clause.

    You know, if they just interpreted the law like a judge, we wouldn't have juries. We'd just use judges. Because they're the supposed experts. And if they don't know anything, juries usually don't either, because most people are idiots.

    We don't go for that, as a civilization. Because we know it wouldn't be long before judges were swinging from trees, whether or not they followed the law.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @James Bowery, @James Bowery

    There is a way to apply the 14th amendment in jury nullification:

    Jury nullification can protect communities from invasion by making life miserable for invaders, but since the Feds are traitors against The People, the Feds will use the 14th amendment’s egregious interpretations to ensure that invaders are unopposed as they render territory uninhabitable by The People.

  82. @Hail
    @James Bowery


    TIMEOUT

    A Texas JURY voted 11 to 1 to grant sole custody to a parent who was castrating their son against the wishes of the other parent?
     

    It was in Dallas County (acc. to court documents).

    Presidential voting for Dallas County, Texas:

    Year: REP-DEM
    2016: 34-60
    2012: 42-57
    2008: 42-57
    2004: 50-49
    2000: 53-45

    That slide in 2016 from 42-->34 (-8) is faster than the grim march of demographic change would have predicted (previously, 53-->42 took four cycles, or -3 per cycle). So a relatively anti-Trump R voter base.

    ___________

    BTW -- Here is a email from Dr. Anne to the father that caught my eye. It was entered into evidence at the trial. Recall that 'Luna' is the name Dr. Anne uses for the boy she wants castrated:


    On M0n. Aug 20, 2018 at 7:16 PM Anne Georgulas [email] wrote:

    Jeff,

    Fortnight is not allowed at my house, so please don't show Jude or Luna Fortnight while on FaceTime.

    I also request you stop bullying Luna on FaceTime. When you ask her if everyone at school liked her haircut, you probably noticed, she didn't answer. She herself does not like her haircut. Please stop making her feel worse about herself than you already have.

    Anne
     

    This is a sad story.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Pericles

    This is a sad story.

    Kramer vs Kramer is a sad story. I’d say this is an extremely creepy story.

  83. I’m glad the judge did this, but can foresee a conversen scenario where a jury of my peers would shut down some craziness and an SJW judge would overturn the verdict on a JNOV motion. Modern day juries are scary, modern day judges scarier yet.

  84. @eah
    @Bill P

    The idea that a family court jury could decide whether parents can castrate their children on the basis of “conservatorship” is preposterous.

    Maybe it's popularly and morally "preposterous" (it is of course), but it isn't legally, especially when a custodial parent has "exclusive" authority to decide on the child's healthcare, as the mother did here (the father only had to be informed) -- the plain fact is, if the father had assented to the boy's 'affirmative' transition care, or otherewise not had the wherewithal to challenge it, this case would likely never have seen the light of day -- but would the 'affirmative' transitioning of a 7 y/o boy be any less "preposterous"?

    And as I mentioned before: what about all of the vulnerable kids who have no one to contest this sort of thing for them?

    ...I really doubt that’s what the jury ruled on or intended,...

    If not, they were the dumbest jury instructed by the dumbest judge in the world -- as already explained to you before (ahem), that's what this case was solely about -- she sued in court to change the provisions of the custody agreement becauses the father was not cooperating in 'affirming' that James is Luna; she wanted even more legal authority to proceed with that, eg to restrict his access and legally sanction the father if he continued to be uncooperative -- what about that is not clear to you? -- read the legal docs.

    Also at this stage there has been, AFAIK, no talk of "castration" -- or chemical "castration" via puberty blockers -- that would have come later (assuming no change of heart by the mother) -- at the moment the boy is only receiving (gender) 'affirmative' care/counseling: after being told for (at least four) years by his mother that he's a girl, he identifies as a girl (at least in some settings, including school); he wears girls clothing ("); he is addressed by his girls name Luna, as well as female pronouns -- the father was not cooperating in all of that, which was the proximate trigger for this court proceeding.

    Replies: @guest, @Pericles

    ‘affirmative’ care/counseling: after being told for (at least four) years by his mother that he’s a girl, he identifies as a girl (at least in some settings, including school); he wears girls clothing (“); he is addressed by his girls name Luna, as well as female pronouns

    Entirely different from the horrible, horrible phenomenon of ‘gaslighting’, I’m sure.

  85. @Hail
    @eah


    introduce legislation in every state that makes it a crime to "gender transition" children.
     
    How does the Left get out of this one?

    Replies: @eah, @Jack Henson

    It’s the Lyndon Johnson “I want to hear him deny he’s blowing a horse” strategy in action.

    Every few years idiot normies forget the last time the Dems ran a normal “I’ll make my own decisions” style candidate who sounds sane during the general and then goes and marches in lockstep with the current leftist insanity for 2 years. You can cause a lot of havoc for two years tho.

    Look at Katie Hill. Some sort of bisexual pimp for her husband who ran on “BELIEVE WOMEN” and won off the fact suburban Repiblican women said “She’s just like me!”.

  86. @Anonymous
    @guest

    Almost the entire difference between law in the United States and that of the rest of the Anglosphere comes down to jury nullification being upheld in the John Peter Zenger case.

    That’s why in the United States, though they can ruin your life in every other way for saying that, you can’t actually go to prison for “denying the Holocaust”. Everywhere else in the First World, you can and will. Everywhere else, the principle that “the truth is no defense” is codified black letter law. In this and many other situations.

    You cannot say that a government official’s mother is a whore, even if it is a public record that she was arrested for and plead guilty to the charge. The truth is no defense.

    In the United States, juries have the power to refuse to convict because they disagree with the law, the application of the law in a particular situation, or for any reason at all, besides being bribed or coerced to do so. Blacks, mestizos, and religious fanatics do it all the time, but most whites have been miseducated into believing that it is somehow wrong or that the boogeyman will get them if they do, or that the DA or judge will be mad at them. (He will. So what?)

    Replies: @Jack Henson

    Lmao see how well jury nullification works in a “hate crime ” and watch it get btfo. There’s an entire body of legal work dedicated to sending in federal enforcers with unlimited time and money when stupid southern juries didn’t vote how the NYT wanted them to.

  87. @Hail
    @Reg Cæsar


    McCain’s poor showing is what needs to be explained.
     
    It's possible McCain threw the election.

    Replies: @Not Raul

    A man that ambitious would never throw a chance to be President, and a man that rich would never throw a chance to give himself a tax cut.

    Bush slandered and humiliated McCain so much in 2000 that his standing was greatly diminished among Bush-friendly Texas Republicans.

    Also, the Iraq War was one of the least popular aspects of Bush’s Presidency, especially by 2008, and McCain was strongly associated with the Iraq War.

  88. @Reg Cæsar
    @Hail


    That slide in 2016 from 42–>34 (-8) is faster than the grim march of demographic change would have predicted (previously, 53–>42 took four cycles, or -3 per cycle). So a relatively anti-Trump R voter base.
     
    Bush was a fellow citizen and a known entity, so there's a distortion baked into this analysis. Romney and Trump are Northeasterners; McCain's poor showing is what needs to be explained.

    Replies: @Hail, @FPD72

    The demographics of Dallas County have been changing rapidly. What used to be white suburbs (Richardson, Irving, Grand Prairie, Mesquite, Garland, etc.) have been increasingly filled with POCs who vote overwhelmingly for Democrats.

    George Bush’s Preston Hollow neighborhood is still doing fine but his non-enforcement of immigration laws and the magnet of the amnesty for which he was pushing have had a negative effect on the rest of the county. White folks are fleeing farther and farther north to cities such as Frisco (which Steve mentioned several days ago) and McKinney. Twenty-five years ago Frisco had one Class 3A high school. Today it has ten Class 5A high schools. The combination of immigrant influx and whites moving out of Dallas County have turned it into a Democratic stronghold. It’s noteworthy that major companies that have moved large operations to the Dallas area (Toyota, State Farm, Liberty Mutual) have all located either on or north of the President George Bush toll road.

    I remember three decades ago reading articles in national publications that referred to Dallas as “the city that works.” Not any more. Because of pension obligations, the city is essentially bankrupt. DISD seems to be on a cycle of ethnically rotating superintendents, with each white superintendent cleaning up the messes left by the corrupt or inept black and Hispanic predecessors.

    My motto for Dallas used to be, “It’s a great place to live but I wouldn’t want to visit there.” That is no longer the case. We left nearly five years ago and haven’t looked back. If we had stayed in the area we would have moved to Frisco.

  89. @Kratoklastes
    @guest


    What I was up to at 7 years of age?
     
    • Salt pills (which were great, because we were allowed cordial to wash them down);
    • abo kids as really close mates;
    • sitting in the big freezers at AMSCOL (which my Dad ran) drinking orange juice and eating chocolate.
    • Mum painting a tiki on Dad's Mini - which was a racing car called 'Little Tutae' (Little Shit, in Maori) that he raced at the local speedway for laughs.
    • Saw 'Soldier Blue' and 'A Man Called Horse' at the Memorial Club, and 'Fists of Fury' (a new release) at the cinema - which didn't have a roof: it opened to the sky (which made it awesome when the power went out). "Soldier Blue" is an amazing movie.
    • Demis Roussos, Nana Mouskouri and Bay City Rollers were on the juke box constantly;
    • Dad buying a double-decker bus from a beef station for $50, and driving it back (the station owners had an idea they could use them for stock transport - neglecting to think about how to get cattle upstairs);
    • helping Dad rip out all the seats in the bus (we decked it out with beds etc);
    • Paddlefoot - the part-lab mutt that was our best mate;
    • Danny Kaye records; "How and Why Wonder Books"; "Tell Me Why" (and "More Tell Me Why") and Linguaphone German;
    • Singing "My Name is Dr Ironbeard" in class.


    The early 70s in the godforsaken middle of Australia (Tennant Creek, to be precise) were absolutely awesome if you were 7 at the time. It's the period I look back on most fondly.

    Replies: @Joe Schmoe, @dfordoom

    “How and Why Wonder Books“

    They’re something I really miss.

  90. @anonymous
    @Corvinus

    That isn't the NY Times, it's the AP.

    The NY Times indexes AP stories on its website. But this story has not appeared in the NY Times itself, neither the print edition nor the electronic edition.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “That isn’t the NY Times, it’s the AP.”

    Regardless, the story was mentioned in that newspaper. Praytell, does Mr. Sailer and the Alt Right “suppress” stories? Would you have similar outrage, or are you virtue signaling here?

  91. Sam Coulton [AKA "S. M. Coulton"] says:

    Another beautiful woman of color saves the day.

    Behind everything good in our society is a woman of color.

    Behind everything evil, perverse, sickening, and insane, is a white woman with stringy, fake blond hair.

  92. @eugyppius

    The judge’s decision means that the Save J* website will have to be shut down.
     
    Well thank god for that. The thing that has bothered me most about this case is the possibility that a seven year-old child might be chemically castrated because reasons. But the thing that has bothered me second-most is his father's readiness to illustrate discussions of his child's sexuality with pictures of his child joined to his child's name. Puberty blockers will mess up normal development, but so will eminently googleable pictures and discussions of your trans seven year-old self.

    Replies: @TheMediumIsTheMassage, @Hail, @Alden

    Adding to the insanity there are rumors Dad was discharged from the Marines because of homosexuality. I have no idea if that’s true.

    The boy was supposed to be 3 in that video.

    Luckily child services are investigating.

    The father of course can file new allegations against crazy lady any time he wishes. He probably will.

  93. @James Bowery
    TIMEOUT

    A Texas JURY voted 11 to 1 to grant sole custody to a parent who was castrating their son against the wishes of the other parent?

    I'm having trouble counting up all improbabilities here which, since they occur in conjunction, must be multiplied (more or less) to produce a combined, exponentially disappearing probability.

    I'm not a big believer in the simulation theory of reality, but, given the fact that no one else has mentioned this even in an iSteve comment thread (not to mention Steve didn't bring it up) has me seriously wondering.

    Of course, there is another possibility here. Trial by jury is a thorn in the side of any would-be tyranny -- jury nullification is a penultimate palladium of liberty, the ultimate being an armed citizenry -- something else that brings Texas to mind. I've been noticing a pattern of efforts to get conservatives to identify with 14th Amendment interpretations that permit Federal interventions in the laboratory of the states. Stuff like this "jury case" is so weird and in a sense optimal I'm not entirely convinced this wasn't somehow a set up.

    Replies: @Hail, @guest, @Alden

    I wrote it was an 11 to 1 decision in one of the discussions. Expert witnesses will say anything. If they and an attorney can convince the jury black is white and the sun is the moon, so be it.

  94. @eah
    ...the parents will have joint conservatorship over J*, which includes making joint medical decisions for the child.

    So what exactly is the upshot of this? -- because if you look at this case: 1) the 2016 annulment gave the mother the "exclusive" right to decide the boy's medical and psychological/psychiatric care; all she had to do was inform the father (read the court docs); 2) this recent case was about amending that agreement to restrict and sanction the father because he wasn't going along with 'affirming' that James is Luna.

    So to now say the parents will make "joint medical decisions", means amending the custody provisions of the original annulment; is that what has been done or will be done? -- does the judge have the authority to unilaterally do this? -- I imagine the mother would file suit to oppose it, because not only did she not get what she petitioned for, her parental authority has (apparently -- ?) been dimished from what she was given in the 2016 annulment (where the court found the father had committed fraud upon entering the marriage) -- presumably some kind of new doc/ruling will be issued.

    With the two parents at loggerheads over such a fundamental issue, how will "making joint medical decisions" work?

    ?

    Also, there is a 2015 video of 3 y/o James telling his father that his mother says he's a girl, puts dresses on him, and paints his nails -- this was after the separation but before the annulment.

    Replies: @eah, @Alden

    The parents will be in court several times a year till the boys turn 18.

    Crazy lady and those grant grifter hustlers will recommend puberty blockers. Dad will refuse to agree. Parents will be back in court about this and every decision.

  95. *I’m editing out the little boy’s name to do my bit to reduce the chances that he won’t have to go through life as, “Oh, wow, I remember that name, weren’t you the kid whose mom…”

    Don’t worry Steve, by the time this kid is old enough for it to matter, this blog will be memory holed while you and all of us who enjoy you will be either too imprisoned or too ostracized to bring it up again.

  96. @Joe Schmoe
    @Jack Henson


    Estrogen isn’t a schedule drug, but testosterone and anabolic steroids are.

    Kind of a funny oversight, ain’t it?

     

    Estrogen is a known carcinogen and actually more dangerous than testosterone.

    But estrogen is used in the pill and makes young women sexually available for lots of free sex with cads and blackguards, so... any ill effects will be largely ignored and distanced from it.

    Replies: @Jack Henson, @Alden

    The “damgers” of testosterone are largely overblown by a generation of after school specials showing two injections turning someone into the incredible hulk before dying in a rage fueled car crash.

    It’s not an exaggeration to say that for men suffering from low T or andropause it’s more difficult to get testosterone than opioids, or that opioids have killed more in a year than testosterone has since the 1940s. Men walking around with 200 test levels being told “its normal ” while many of the same doctors wouldnt blink at putting an 11 year old boy on spiro.

    The “men’s clinics” are filling a void sure, and they’re better than nothing, but not every man needs the 500mg test cyp/HGH weekly compound floating around as formula de jure it seems. However expecting the current crop of doctors to get on board is a bridge too far. Much too busy trying to strangle the autonomy of NPs filling the void they created.

  97. @dfordoom
    @Charles


    Consider that the judge had to overrule the jury. The jury – THE JURY – voted in favor of a type of child abuse unheard-of by sane people. The judge was forced to overrule. Plus there’s this: almost all politicians and almost all MSM want people like those jury members to be the only people allowed to vote.
     
    The members of the jury were probably no dumber than the average person. The problem with juries is that they get faced with "scientific" evidence from "expert witnesses" and there's no way the average person can tell how much is really scientific and how much is pure BS. And a lawyer can find an "expert witness" to testify to just about anything, given the enormous numbers of people out there with BS academic credentials in pseudosciences like psychiatry, gender studies, etc.

    The average person just never gets exposed to the idea that maybe all these experts are the same kinds of people who were peddling patent medicines a century ago. Most people will feel too intimidated to question the pronouncements of these pseudoscientists.

    Replies: @Charles

    It’s probably true that those jury members are no dumber than average. But the world’s leading expert and proponent of “sex-reaassignment” surgery, whoever he is, is still an evil man. If a selection of however-many average people cannot discern between believing someone to be an expert and understanding, nevertheless, that the person desires and promotes evil, then “society” has fallen further than can be remedied.

  98. It’s probably true that those jury members are no dumber than average. But the world’s leading expert and proponent of “sex-reaassignment” surgery, whoever he is, is still an evil man. If a selection of however-many average people cannot discern between believing someone to be an expert and understanding, nevertheless, that the person desires and promotes evil, then “society” has fallen further than can be remedied.

    There’s a definite problem with the Cult of the Expert. And the cult of academic credentialism. It’s connected with the insane increase in the number of people getting higher education which leads to a huge number of people with worthless Mickey Mouse degrees, but a college education is now se as a human right and of course it’s an important class marker – I have a Ph.D so I’m better than those nasty proles who shop at WalMart. The blind faith in the virtues of a college education, any college education, is sad.

    There’s also the phoney respectability that pseudosciences have gained.

    Worst of all is the cult of psychiatry which established itself in a major way in the US in the 1940s. Psychiatry is the ultimate pseudoscience. As a society we refuse to give up our idiotic faith in psychiatry. If a psychiatrist says that ADHD or gender dysphoria disorder is real the overwhelming majority of people believe it. If a psychiatrist or some other pseudoscientist says that there are 57 genders and that men can be magically transformed into women the overwhelming majority of people believe it.

    It’s probably a result of the collapse of organised religion. Psychiatrists became the new priesthood. The Bible has been scrapped but the DSM-5 is a sacred book and it’s infallible.

  99. @Reg Cæsar
    An ad among the comments just showed a performer in drag in an upcoming performance of Cinderella-- at the Children's Theatre Company in Minneapolis. I just had to look into this.

    Turns out it isn't the lead, but the stepsisters who are portrayed by actors, presumably for comic effect. Both actors are straight and married with children, one with another cast member. (The stepmother.)

    How they are getting away with this is a mystery. Conservative critics might be mollified by pointing to Milton Berle 60 years ago. But several "woke" angles could be employed against the troupe.

    Is something inherently funny about men in dresses? If this is acceptable, why weren't true drag performers recruited for the roles? They need the work more than poseurs do.


    The city just hosted a big protest about the Redskins coming to town. How is this any different?

    Replies: @SnakeEyes, @Alden

    In almost all the Cinderella ballets the stepsisters are men who dance and move very awkwardly & buffoonishly.

  100. @Joe Schmoe
    @Jack Henson


    Estrogen isn’t a schedule drug, but testosterone and anabolic steroids are.

    Kind of a funny oversight, ain’t it?

     

    Estrogen is a known carcinogen and actually more dangerous than testosterone.

    But estrogen is used in the pill and makes young women sexually available for lots of free sex with cads and blackguards, so... any ill effects will be largely ignored and distanced from it.

    Replies: @Jack Henson, @Alden

    60 years of the pill and estrogen replacement therapy no one’s got cancer yet. It was just the mass tort attorneys hoping for a big payoff. Similar to today,s anti vaccination hysterics.

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